Red Elk, a Hioka and Red Web Society elder, reveals Earth’s layered structure—five demonic realms beneath the surface, including Lucifer’s sulfurous domain (layer two) and a fifth world with lizard-like beings who broke an ancient alliance, leading to DNA-altered humans trapped in lower dimensions. He warns of "the flip," a cataclysmic event tied to Hopi prophecies, where coastal Pacific Northwest residents face imminent disaster while only a fraction of humanity will survive. Skeptics are urged to unite against infighting as Red Elk shifts to Steve Quayle, who links Ebola’s aerosolization—a potential bioterror weapon—to murdered scientists like Dr. Vladimir Pishnik and a Taliban debriefer’s "phase three" threat against the U.S., urging urban populations to prepare for targeted chaos. [Automatically generated summary]
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Again, I've had some problems from what I know, and for safety's sake, maybe I would be very wise to not speak of some, and certainly not to give away certain secrets that the military knows.
Well, how could we, Red Elk, how could we be on the surface and not be aware in some manner or another of these worlds, or at least the immediate world that would be closest to us?
You know, an entire underground world.
I know that's where you're going.
How could we not be aware of it with all the drilling we do and the sounding and the sonar and the blah, blah, blah, whatever?
Yeah, I guess the Christians might not have such a hard time believing it.
You know, he was cast down, way down, and we've always, traditionally, the Christian world thinks of a hell within a burning hell within the center of the world.
Number three is also much of Lucifer's domain and mostly where he keeps his armies of demonic beings, his own creation, the best he could do to make a human being.
I have been interviewing of late a lot of people who claim to have actually been physically attacked by entities, dark things called shadow people or some sort of entities.
And some of them, Red Elk, have handprints, you know, black and blue handprints where something has grabbed them on their arms, their legs, and beaten them up and thrown them across rooms during sleep, that kind of thing.
Would these entities be from that level, that storage area for Lucifer's army?
The warnings they gave were so severe, Red Elk, and is this a general belief pretty much across Native American nations of all sorts or specific to the Hopi or what?
All right, and when you pass over, in this tube, make floors, see-through floors, drill holes in it so the air goes all through the tube from top to bottom.
And I will guarantee you that in time, all that remain in the seven heavens, all of them, in time, a long way away, they too go to school even as they pass over.
It's a little G. A false god-made, not false gods, but a false-made by these gods, little G. Are you able to tell me if we were able to, with our eyes, look at this world you're describing, with this sky you're describing, how would we see it?
A long time ago, first off, Lucifer came, and he drilled a few holes and he went down to where he wanted to go.
And then, right behind him, you know, in time, Lucifer, he spread out with his commanders, his angels and stuff, over all the galaxies, over all the universes, even the dimensions with other galaxies and universes.
In time, again, understand, we're speaking time that we're not familiar with.
A thousand years is but a blink of the eye.
Right.
And in time, he spread out with his whole contamination.
At one time, everyone was familiar that there was but one Creator.
And most worshipped him in a great way.
But in time, Lucifer and his soldiers and his angels became his, the ones that fled with him, became his generals and stuff.
But they made an alliance, and the lizards and the smaller group that came with them went in, you know, dug into the ground, and they said, we'll take this down here.
But anyway, what happened is these miners, these lizard miners, for some odd reason, I know some of them personally.
I'm physically, I'm speaking of.
And I've never seen a female.
Not on this planet.
Or rather, not down there.
Here, yes, but not down there.
But originally, it seemed to be kind of like Columbus coming over to North America with a whole bunch of sailors.
They went down and they had no females.
And in the alliance, the agreement between the number six gods and the number five gods, the lizards, they agreed that each would take a certain amount of the population upon this planet, number six, and divide it, not equally.
You know, they left a little remnant to still stay original.
And they were going to use them as their miners.
Well, the lizards, they took their group down.
And the lizards, how would you put it, a horny bunch?
But anyway, for ten generations, our generations, and at that time, I don't know how long the people or the humans of this planet, the original ones, were living.
A long time, though.
But for ten of their normal lifespan, they were below ground, being slaves, being food, and being sex toys for these tang lizards.
And the lizards, you know, they had no respect for this life.
But in so doing, through the sex, DNA was being crossed over.
Now you claim, don't you, that our military, our military understands the nature, at least some of the nature of these lower worlds and of the lizards.
As witches, true witches, the bad, bad ones, even knowing that there is but one Creator and that Creator is love, they choose to do their own thing and go with evil.
So too, some of our people, men and women, but mostly men, being military, choose to the power of the evil and made an alliance with that.
We've got these dang lizards all over the place, and it really sounds strange to say it, but when, oh, gee, they're all over the place.
Hey, I just recently got back from Opi, and these poor people down there, the few that I had a chance to really talk with, they were absolutely amazed.
I mean, it was just a total amazement that someone other than that little group of Opi and the bigger group, Hanava, Arapaho, Apache, knew anything about this.
Knew anything, let alone was doing it.
Doing something about it, being aware of it.
And I pass for white far more than I pass for Indian.
Oh, yes, I look like a short, squat, fat, beady-eyed, bald Irishman.
My brother, on the other hand, he's the one that looks red.
We're talking about what's below our feet, under the ground.
My only experience as a talk show host with any previous under-the-ground thing.
Well, there have been a couple, actually, but the main one, of course, was Mel Waters, who told us about Mel's hole.
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Well, it is true, you know, that these rumors of all of this, the rumors of things like you're talking about down there, they've been along and around as long as man has.
Excuse me, but the white ancestors on my white side, you know, your own ancestors.
And by white, I mean incompressing all colors other than Indian, okay.
And we've all had our fables, our myths, our tales, our fairies, and little people.
And over the ages, over the ages, it became that.
But that did not stop that.
And these things do exist.
These beings do exist.
And, you know, in my training, I've learned how to have them come to me or me go to them or whatnot.
And even sit down and I don't drink beer, but to the elves, you know, if I know they're coming, I'll go out and buy a couple of beers or three or four beers, depending on me.
And we'll sit down and chat.
And good little people, good little people.
Then there's the other kind, you know, the bad side.
But a lot of those bad side little people are much more recent.
There is a story, Red Elk, that years ago now I first heard about a group of scientists in Siberia who had drilled the very deepest hole into ground ever drilled.
And this was confirmed.
This story was confirmed.
We had the printed version of it on my website.
Lowered, actually heard as they were drilling this hole some pretty horrible sounds.
We should get the printed version of this, I suppose, up on my website because a lot of people doubt that it's true.
But it actually ran, I think it was Reuters, I can't recall.
At any rate, they lowered microphones into the ground.
Hearing faintly what they were hearing, they were very concerned when they reached this level, and I don't know how many thousand feet down they were, but they lowered microphones into the ground and recorded a sound.
And I have a recording which is allegedly that recording.
And I'm going to play it for you, and I'm going to play it for Red Elk and see what his reaction is.
Understand that Lucifer and those of him have great power, tremendous power.
And even though Hades exist in a sense in your own mind, when you pass over, I've talked to ghosts, they won't go because they're afraid you're going to go down there.
But nevertheless, they have the ability to pull out of this mind hell, if you want, which is a real place, these people, and put them into torture chambers, torture caves, torture hell, and play with them, go around, stab them, bite them, eat them.
We've talked about the fifth level, most adjacent to ours, the lizard world, and I understand that would probably be of the most concern to us for sure.
And we've talked about three other levels, but we haven't yet talked about the fourth level, below the lizards.
To those who inhabit that world, see those oceans, that sky, that entire world, to most of them, except the knowledgeable, as we have the knowledgeable here, up here on the surface, to everybody else, is that the entire world?
In other words, they can only imagine there's something beyond the world they live in, this false sky they have, or whatever?
We're so capable, my brother, the things that we Can do is phenomenal.
We've got this black government who is spending all our tax money to get here, there, do this, do that.
And, you know, if the people could learn and would learn, and I teach this, if they actually teach it, learn what their capabilities are, we could live in a total paradise.
We don't need a car, a ship, or a plane.
We don't need a spacecraft.
I mean, we just plain don't need it.
It's all mind work, and by putting your mind in a proper fashion, it can be physical.
Ralph, you know, I've had a lot of people on the program lately who I think have gone to great lengths, certainly, to prove, and I think they have proven, that we are idiots for thinking that we were the first to walk on the earth as man.
And that, of course, we don't know how ancient things were done, how pyramids were built, how big stones were moved, how some fellow down in Florida moved these tons and tons of stones all by himself.
Obviously, at some time, there was another time for man or some relation of man.
And these men had power.
They had power and a science that we don't understand today.
That's why you have people left on this planet called medicine people.
You know, I'm not talking about just the red bloods here on this continent.
They're all over the planet.
My brother, in the future, there will be a time that there will not be a piece of food to eat.
There will not be a branch to pick an apple off of.
And yet we do, we do even now have medicine people that can take, say, for instance, a branch off an apple tree, a dead branch, and just a few minutes,
just a few minutes of mind work holding that branch, dead branch in its hand, or her hand, his or hers, and make it turn green, make the leaves come on it, make the flowers come on the leaves, make the apple appear, pick it, and eat it.
And even the good book, the black book, the Bible, it says so in both Old and New Testament.
It says, ye are as God's, little G, not big.
You can do anything you want.
It talks about moving mountains.
Look at what the Pale One did, the Pale Teacher, Christ.
You know, he rose people from the dead.
He did many, many miracles.
We can do the same thing.
He said, follow me.
Not just sit there and talk about it.
Do it.
And it's all taught right there in that same Bible.
How he did it?
He taught how to do it.
In my 41 years of training, sir, I had to go to Bible college, a non-denominational Bible college.
I had to spend eight and a half years in the black site to learn the enemy.
This is all part of my training.
And even at Bible College, non-denominational, many, many different denomination teachers from preachers who were teachers there, they didn't even get that training, the actual how to do this, how to walk through a wall, how to know that somebody's under a tree many, many miles away when you're standing in one spot.
This is all our ability.
And instead, we're too dang lazy.
And we go and we work our rear ends off to pay the electric bill, the gas bill, get a new car, keep up to the Joneses, keep our family fed.
My gosh, I have walked in rain for 10 and a half hours, freezing rain, where you could see your breath.
Baby on her shoulder The sun is setting Oh Oh, I'll turn down.
If I'm down, I'll never have a count Seasons don't feel the reef, but No, do the wind, the sun, or the rain We can be like this Come on, baby Don't feel the reef, but Baby, take my hand Don't feel the reef, but You'll be able to fly Don't feel the reef, but Baby, I'm the man Tell me something.
If you could be led to the opening of a cave or a homeground into which you could descend, knowing that perhaps you would never be seen again, never come back, but you would enter another world.
Would you go?
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Well, sir, by fasting for five days and nights, the leader, the knowledge, the keeper, myself, or others that know how to do this, and using certain objects and obeying certain physical rules as well as metal preparing yourself, you can go inside.
And by the way, this cave, when you go inside, you don't take your wallet or purse in there if you have any credit card or something, because it wipes out the number and you have to order a new credit card.
You don't take a telephone in there, a cell phone.
It kills a battery.
But nevertheless, anyway, you go in there and you do certain things.
And if everything is done correctly, there's laws, there's rules.
It's got to be done, and it has to be the right person with the right heart as well.
And suddenly, you're in a hologram seeing the future of that particular area.
They are the ones that are identical in surviving as the last four earth flips were.
Well, actually, three, because the first two pretty well took care of animals and stuff before animals before the man's imprint in the stone next to the dinosaur.
And my question is, well, first I wanted to ask how to convince my family that Mr. Elk, what he says, but then when he said he could fly, I thought that if he goes on one of the television shows and actually shows people this, everybody will believe everything you say.
In this day and age, ma'am, if Red Elk went on a TV show, even like Larry, and levitated, you know, everybody would, well, I don't know about everybody, but most people would say it's a trick.
If you did some incredible public demonstration of levitation or the ability to fly, your word would suddenly become at least very much more listened to than it is now, right?
I think, my friend, he could lift up and you can roll right underneath him.
I'll tell you this.
The one thing this man's got going for him for these abilities is his innocence.
He is not heady over what he does.
And he had that childlike mind to learn this.
And this is not the only thing he's learned.
He's good.
I would call him a great medicine man.
well the whole peter pan stories supports a childlike mind if you're going to do anything go into a tree and become a tree one with the tree you have to have a childlike mind of belief at least i'm going to try you know to You do.
You didn't hear the first part of the show, right?
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I heard it on and off.
I'm here at work, and actually a bunch of people came in and they laughed when you said when you were talking about the levitation, so that's why it interests me.
There are, again, I was speaking, our abilities are almost as being God itself.
Not just my abilities, my friend.
All humans were born with those abilities.
And then we're told by our peers and our grandmothers and our preachers and our mothers and dads, you can't fly, you can't do this.
Listen, you quit living in the word of can't and start living in the words of can and also apply it only in a love way because love is a greater power than using it any other way.
You can sit like you're on a car seat and drive down the freeway with your left arm out of a non-existent window and steering with a non-existent steering wheel and go beep, beep right alongside the people at 70 miles an hour.
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All right, now, as you well know, because of present circumstances, we are not accepting any snail mail here.
We're just not doing it.
We're not going to take that chance, as is the case with most media.
But I'd love to hear from you electronically.
It really is.
It's painful not to be able to receive mail.
It's really painful.
But electronically, we can still speak.
How's that, folks?
So you see, they've had some effect, surely, haven't they?
Anyway, you can communicate with me electronically.
I'm artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
That's artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at my aol.com.
Either one will reach me.
And that brings up an important question because right now I've got five gazillion fast blast computer requests wanting to know how to get hold of Red Elk.
Red Elk, if people in my audience wanted to speak with you, and I can assure you they do, so consider carefully whether or not you're going to give out any contact information.
If you wish to, now would be a good time.
If you don't want to really speak to people, they'll have to understand.
Now, the last time when I was on Lower Lee, I got a little mail.
And so much so that I got a strange bump on my finger replying because I'm a one-finger typer, so I write instead and realize what it was, and I've had to shave it because it was a callus.
Well, matter of fact, I have seven people, including this gentleman, at this moment listening to this show and praying that I don't put my foot too deeply and have the black side come after me.
I was going to ask you, on the prophecy of the Indians, of the Indians of North America, such as the returned chief that Orville Lookinghorse is speaking of, and the Hopi, who the American government, very few people know, have gone to the Hopi to find out how to grow corn without water because they know a drought is coming.
We're watching now, I watch the weather now, and we have no winter yet in the Midwest here, and it's December, and we're still in jackets At 40-degree weather.
And with the earth changes going on, when you mentioned the flip of the earth, I just understood that it's going to be a year of no winter, and that's going to be the sign.
Really, one gal here, a good friend of mine, a woman, half-lizard, when she gets really upset, her face, a good-looking woman, her face turns to scales and wedges, and her eyes turn to like goat's eyes.
What has happened is a colony that originally came as an alliance has taken over the inner land, and they themselves believe they are both God and Lucifer, not knowing that they themselves are being conned by Lucifer himself.
I open this up to the lizards, the half-breeds.
I show them.
I explain to them, and I take them on little trips, and they are shocked.
And so far, so far, the ones that I have shown and have led into the knowledge of who they are, you know, they're people like you and me, even the full-blood lizards.
They're people from another planet, actually three, with one main planet.
Now listen, we're coming to the end of this program.
The clock is ticking.
I think what I would like you to do is just tell me very quickly to all those people who think you're crazy as a loon and all this is nuts, what do you say to them?
Now, you've heard what we may be facing, the warnings we're getting about a bioterrorism attack.
It's all over the place.
Stephen Quayle is the author of the book, Breathe No Evil, a Primer for Understanding Bioterrorism.
First published in 1996.
Additionally, he's authored Blueprint for Survival, Investment Perspectives on Precious Metals, Aliens, and Fallen Angels, the Sexual Corruption of the Human Race.
Indeed.
Quayle is currently writing a book called Colossus, A History of Giants and Lost Civilizations.
That'd go well with my next guest.
He's former editor and publisher of Survival Quest and Security and Survival Chronicles, both monthly newsletters which dealt with dangerous and perilous events and how to prepare for them.
For the last seven years, he's been articulating the need for American citizens to become aware of bioterrorism and weapons of mass destruction.
Upon the publication of Breathe No Evil, Quayle upstaged the mainstream media by years in spelling out specifically in great detail the effects of bioterrorism.
Prior to the publication of book Breathe No Evil, Quayle went on record to predict a major chemical or biological attack in a major world city three weeks later.
That cult in Tokyo released the nerve gas subway.
Remember that?
Well, we've had, and I've been commenting on the air here, several times, you'll recall, that a lot of scientists who are involved in biotechnological stuff have either come up missing or dead.
And tonight, I think Stephen Quayle is prepared to deal with that question as well as the present warning that we've got in front of us about possibly being attacked.
I'm sent the stories of these scientists who mysteriously, you know, overnight disappear or are found deader than doornails, and they're involved in exactly the stuff we're all worried about right now.
The last time you and I were talking on your show about five weeks ago, we were talking about the outbreak of Ebola in a certain part of Afghanistan, actually in Balochistan, a province of Pakistan.
Now, our Jane's Defense Weekly, the most prestigious publication in the world on all types of military issues, ran an article that's claimed that the thing is spreading, this outbreak, what I would call pandemic is spreading.
They now have 140 quarantine bases in Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.
This is something the mainstream news is not paying any attention to.
Yes, and what's really fascinating, quickly, one of the foremost Russian scientists who was uniquely murdered about the same time as some of the other world scientists around the 15th of November this year was a gentleman who pretty much figured out how to aerosolize, in other words, Ebola, and allow it to be spread by air.
Normally, Ebola is spread by contact with mucosa or body fluid.
He was testing the other day on testifying before the Congress on C-SPAN and basically went into specific detail on it.
And unfortunately, Art, most of the guys there just didn't even get the full effect of that.
What I'm saying, quite candidly, is that I believe that part of the hush-hush in the back rooms, if you will, of Congress and the intelligence community is they know what Al-Qaeda has access to.
And I believe this release that you and I first talked about five to six weeks ago and now is making Jane's news as of a week ago.
And then in addition to that, they set up 39 field hospitals.
So they're expecting this thing to become massive.
There's no way Arta could have gotten from Balochistan, which Quetta is the capital of a Pakistani-like province, to where it is showing up now in Iran without being aerosolized.
Just physically no way.
And so we're talking about, by the way, when you and I talked about it previously, there were 75 to 100 deaths.
Now just in the Iranian part of this, there's 100 deaths.
This is a big story.
And it's really big when you take into consideration what Walker is, the U.S. guy that was fighting with Bin Laden.
You know, they're trying to really downplay him.
But remember this, the CIA sent two of their field operatives to debrief him.
And that's when that whole situation got out of hand in the prison, and one of the CIA guys ended up getting killed.
So when everybody's downplaying this gentleman as being just, oh, how could such a low-level guy know anything?
I think it's important to recognize that he must have known something or they wouldn't have committed, the CIA wouldn't have committed their assets to going and debriefing him.
Well, I'm paying a lot of attention to it because, you know, the point is that he not only talked about that, but he talked about phase three.
And if you remember when we were talking five weeks ago, that the Russian lady, the advisor to Vladimir Putin, Tatiana Korazhnya, made the statement that the people that are trying to bring down the United States are not just going to settle for a financial interruption.
They want to destroy us.
And his exact words were phase three was the destruction of America.
I doubt that being in the Taliban military and also being now under our armed guards, he's had too much of a chance to listen to her.
So what I'm saying is we're getting intermittent verifications of the story that Vladimir Putin's economic advisor broke to the world in Pravda, which the West paid no attention to.
And now we're seeing the very same thing happening.
We're hearing it from Walker's mouth.
This is part of the reason why the government, U.S. government, gave the warning they did several days ago, because it wasn't just what Walker said, but there was a lot of ancillary and additional events taking place that proved that something's getting ready to happen.
He was the head of the Biological Weapons Development for the Soviet Union, Biopreparat.
And listen to this.
Just a small amount of Ebola, especially the Marburg variety, released like into the subways of New York, Boston, or Washington, would literally result in hundreds of thousands of deaths within days.
and the phase three as it's being basically bannered about in most mainstream newspapers and magazines around the world, not just the United States.
The world press is giving more coverage of this than our local press, is basically the pre-position nuclear weapons backpack and the Cold War leftovers, meaning bombings.
Even the Saudi Arabians have announced that the death of bin Laden will not mean the end of al-Qaeda because, obviously, our relationship with Saudi Arabia as a country is going downhill fast, Art.
And the point is, is the current head of it, the prince, who absolutely is anti-American and pro-Bin Laden, he's the guy that said you can't operate from any of our bases.
And now they're basically saying we've got to get out of Saudi Arabia.
So the point is, is it takes big bucks to fund a worldwide terror organization, as al-Qaeda, it's in 60 nations.
And also, I think most people miss the story that 4,000 to 5,000 of the Taliban were airlifted out of Afghanistan into Pakistan.
That's something that most people just overlook.
So anyone who makes that statement, I immediately challenge and say, that's what it appears to be.
You know, again, these events that are taking place with the top weapons, you know, biological biophysicists and biologists, molecular biologists, this is like the who's who in the world art.
Well, listen, and it's not only in the U.S., in the Australian Animal Health Labs, which is basically a cover for their bioweapons development program.
Today, we found another guy.
His name was Seth Van Nugen.
I take it he's Vietnamese, but a 15-year veteran microbiologist supposedly goes into a room filled with nitrogen gas and they said, you know, it was just an accident.
I don't think so, especially when you figure out the fact that Dr. Vladimir Pishnik, that's the gentleman, the Russian I told you about, who figured out how to aerosolize this stuff, he was basically murdered on the 21st.
I've got a who's when, murdered, when type thing, okay?
His specialty was DNA sequencing analysis as it relates to Ebola, HIV, and influenza.
Now, remember, the great Spanish flu epidemic of 1918, we had some of our people from Fort Dietrich and the military go and dig up some cadavers and recultivate the Spanish flu.
20 million people died.
So do you see when it's when I see everybody who's linked to Ebola being basically wasted?
And, you know, as people start to realize that you don't get a clustering of events that become totally random and non-related, especially since we're talking about one of the most heinous and horrendously deadly viruses in the world.
Now, let me give you another thing to add to your scenario.
One of the Ebola victims who is actively suffering from Ebola has suddenly disappeared from a village in Gabon in Lieberville.
And listen to this.
Here's a quote from the Republic of Congo Health Minister, Leon Oppenbaugh.
Okay, he said this.
We are very, very worried.
If you wanted to get a new strain or a variant strain of Ebola, and you didn't want to go through all the hassle of trying to track it down through labs and go through all of the scrutiny, what would you grab somebody?
And then this other guy, Seth Van Nune, in Australia, is murdered.
And then you've got this cellular biologist on the 23rd of November at the same time that within a week of Don Wiley, the man who's disappeared, and he basically is beat up and he's in a coma in Florida.
Something's very weird here.
And I think that the listeners have got to realize something that when Walker makes the statement, it's amazing how quickly the pundits try and move in and discredit him.
But when you take all of the evidence in stock, you've got to say something really of major proportion is up.
Well, Walker, it seems to me, would be in a position where he is in a position where he's facing treason charges along with others, but certainly treason, which is punishable by death, definitely, right?
And so they're going to sit him down, and I'm sure the CIA does a version of good guy, bad guy, and interrogation that would make most police interrogations look like kid stuff.
He's going to try to offer something up for his own hide in all likelihood, wouldn't you think?
But again, you know, remember, they went to him prior to this, okay?
They were, you know, interrogating him prior to all of these revelations.
And they obviously had reason to believe he had some form of information because if He were just, quote, the American guy who is fighting for the Taliban as a Muslim convert, okay?
That's one thing.
But what did he know, and when did he know it, and why did they send two of their field agents to debrief him?
That's an interesting, what would you say, question mark.
And now it's interesting because, again, one group of people is saying, listen, he's too low on the totem pole, he wouldn't know anything.
The other group is saying they're all totally compartmentalized in al-Qaeda, and it's on a need-to-know basis.
Well, yes, but our government, contrary to what some people say, they're not dummies.
And if he were so low on the totem pole that his warnings meant nothing, then the U.S. government, based on his warnings, apparently, would not have issued a warning that something might be about to happen.
All right, I've got a Fastblaster here who I think effectively sums up what should be a question, and that is, Stephen, with a story as big as the one you're breaking here tonight, 140 camps, for God's sakes, with Ebola victims.
That's a big story.
And somebody fastblast, how could the press, not, you know, the mainstream press, not be all over this?
And if you remember, when Keith put it, your webmaster put it up, the sources that I got it from were right there.
And no, what I'm saying, Art, is that no one else in the mainstream went to that.
All I can say is they either have an agenda, and this is the only answer I have for you, or they are being told to ignore it because of the ramifications.
Well, I think that, you know, I mean, when you read what they've said about Wiley, I mean, one of the FBI guys is joking, well, it's not like the al-Qaeda terrorists have got him.
That's a direct quote.
I believe the FBI's last gentleman's name is Bull.
Well, the bottom line is maybe they've got to realize that if they want to be objective and get the answers that everybody expects them to get, they've got to quit looking at this stuff with predisposed biases, you know?
And I mean, these stories are so big that I can't answer that question.
All I can tell you is that anybody who wants to look it up can go to www.janes.com.
Yeah, and here's the other thing I think people need to understand.
We're talking about something that is so deadly that the incubation period is so short and death is so rapid that by the time the health authorities know what even hit them, everyone's probably going to be dead who is exposed to that, especially in the aerosolized version of inhalation Ebola.
And you know, it's interesting because even the British press, you know, and I mean, they have enough, let's just say, this stuff under their rug that if anybody stepped hard, you know, they would come up with the fact that the hoof and mouth and mad cow disease that was, you know, released over there, I mean, they even carry stories that it was released from stolen biological samples out of Port and Down, which is their bioweapons lab.
I do for a number of reasons, especially when Dr. Prusner, the guy that got the Nobel Prize for identifying actually and qualifying prions, the active ingredient in, or the active agent in MadCow, you know, I mean, when you see how it happened and how it took place, it was absolutely an intentional biological release.
Stephen, on behalf of the audience, if something like this aerosolized Ebola were released somewhere, subways, in a major city, whatever, what action could somebody in Des Moines or Houston or L.A. or Parump, Nevada take?
Well, first of all, you know, you can go, those who have internet access or even watching the weather channel can look at where the winds are blowing from, but you'd basically want to be, you know, as far away from the fallout.
When I say the fallout, the spreading or the winds carrying it, you'd have to do the same thing that we talked about, Art, on your show.
They'd have to build a safe room in their home, you know, covering all the windows, all the doors with heavy plastic and duct tape and having a way of bringing purified air into the room and pretty much have to sit it out for probably 14 to 21 days in that room.
And I think that this is why, you know, it's kind of interesting.
You know, people are so worried about the economy.
I say, you've got to quit worried about the stock market.
You better start worrying about your life because we're talking about statements coming from Mr. Walker and former sheikhs and even Muslim clerics that are talking about what, let's just say, call it what it is, the potential for the doomsday weapon to be unleashed.
So when you hear Phase 3 being the utter destruction of America, I can only tell you this, Art.
We're talking, you know, Senator Sam Nunn and his dark winter exercise, et cetera, you know, they came to the conclusion two, three weeks, the United States would no longer be what it was before that.
All right, but the thing about a doomsday Weapon when you release it is it might kill you.
In other words, in today's air travel society, the world is indeed very small, and a biological agent could spread very quickly right back to the originators of it.
I do, but our best scientists at the CDC and elsewhere have been working on some antidote for Ebola and things like it for a long time, and they haven't found one.
So while I might understand that our enemies could have something like this, it seems unlikely to me that they have developed what the people at the CDC could not.
Now, there is always the scenario which says they don't care.
You know, they're going to paradise.
And so releasing a doomsday weapon, even if it's suicidal, is something they'd be willing to do.
And the point is that you can't argue with the statement if someone's bound to destroy themselves and others.
It's pretty tough to stop them.
But what you need to understand, and I think it's really a critical issue, when you're talking about the biological weapons development, you usually are always, always coming up with antidotes.
You know, the Russians offered us an antidote for anthrax, and we don't have one.
We have inoculations and a, quote, questionable vaccine.
But the Russians were quick to offer us an antidote for anthrax.
So the point that I think is really a phenomenal talking point is that, okay, if these guys have developed it to the degree they've developed it, then point blank, they would obviously have most likely spent an equal amount of time developing the antidote.
And that's why I think the second scenario, why all these scientists are getting whacked, murdered, if you will, is because these are the guys that could probably figure it out, and therefore the efficacy of a weapon, you want to, you know, if you can alleviate anybody that could come up with the answer to the puzzle, well, then you've got a corner on the puzzle market.
And when they're all disappearing, being murdered, and then the casual, if you will, the cum si, cum sa, whatever is, you know, it just is amazing to me because these are big, big stories.
Yes, it's a lie, because I don't think they can tell the truth, and it's kind of a catch-22.
If they tell a truth, let's say, for instance, we'll just pick on L.A., and please, for all those of you listening in L.A., I don't mean this, but let's just pick on L.A. If there was a specific threat that they knew of and they started to pass it out, can you imagine what would happen?
But again, my whole position with them is that they should have been proactive when this whole issue of biological terrorism was raised at least a half a dozen years ago.
And then even in the last several years when we've been seeing all the press on it, most of the mainstream press didn't even carry the story about Sam Nunn's little biological exercise that took place.
And basically, they threw their hands up in the air.
That's a very scary scenario, Art.
By the way, you asked me last time, we now have my website up, and I want people to be able to go and read the first chapter of the revised edition of Breathe No Evil.
It's free, and I'm just going to probably put the whole book on the web or CD because I don't believe we have time to print.
That's how imminent this thing may be.
But they can go to www.breathe no evil, B-R-E-A-T-H-E, noevil.com.
And the reason I'm saying that is because people need to understand that, again, they need to be like detectives almost, to be starting to put these things together for themselves.
You can draw attention to them.
I can draw attention to them.
All those who speak of these things.
But what they've got to understand is this, is that the mainstream press will not deal with issues like this because the mainstream press pretty much is told what to cover.
And we could argue about who tells them what to cover.
But by not covering, I would say, the significant facts and significant events, you've got to say, boy, somebody doesn't want them to deal with this stuff.
Yeah, but if you were yourself in the government in charge of making a decision about, for example, you knew there, let's say, again, we'll pick on L.A., you knew there was going to be an attack on L.A., and we don't know that, folks.
But you knew L.A. was the target, and it was going to be aerosolized.
I would have basically had my homeland defense crew positioning strategic resources there, and I would have basically started dealing with the state disaster and emergency services.
And to my knowledge, they haven't art.
And basically, the only thing you can do is tell people, look, if this thing breaks out, you're going to have to quarantine yourself in your room, preferably with some bathroom facilities, And basically, be prepared to wait this thing out.
Now, all of these viruses tend to break down with ultraviolet light, sunlight, with temperatures, certain temperatures, etc.
So, the point is that it's both a blessing and a curse.
The curse is that it comes quickly.
In other words, the death will come quickly to a lot of people.
The blessing is if you understand that you can do something to protect yourself, it should give you more peace of mind.
And I honestly believe that an effective civil defense program at a state, county, city level that should have been put into place, it's too late to put into place now.
So all we can do is appeal to individuals to take whatever steps they believe they can take to protect themselves.
Well, I can tell you right now that there are a lot of people scrambling.
And when I say scrambling, obviously, just as the FBI knew of the people that were involved in the World Trade Center, I can tell you this today, they rounded up a lot of Middle Eastern guys in San Diego.
And I think that you can see that by the rumors and the word out there that 2,000 to 3,000 people are now being held.
But I don't think that, again, people don't recognize the fact that there is big money behind the terrorism.
And I've got to be candid with you.
I think we have to deal very, very swiftly and I think almost ruthlessly with the nations that we know that are back in this stuff.
If Saudi Arabia is found to be secretly funding al-Qaeda, which I believe it's going to be the case, then I think that the bottom line is that we sure don't want 35,000 men or however many men we have in Saudi Arabia right now, exposed to that type of an environment.
And let's face it, if it's the North Koreans and the North Koreans have gone on basically their threat, every other day they're threatening to start another war over there.
But I think we have to find the source of it.
And again, we know the source of this stuff.
We don't have a $100 billion a year intelligence agency that's totally decrepit.
I think the key is that they've got to get over this national security mindset and realize that basically they've produced national insecurity.
And I think they've got to be honest, but I think they have to always tell the truth, but they don't have to tell everything they know because obviously that would be destabilizing.
But I think that they had better begin to recognize the fact that whoever is funding this stuff, whoever's backing this stuff, and believe me, they know the bottom line is they've got to deal with them.
And it's as simple as that.
Look, if China is selling bioweapons development stuff to Iran and Iran is selling it to Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad, then we know we've got a problem there.
But when you get into the world of geopolitics, you can deal with the fruit of all this evil all day long, but until you deal with the root of it, it's not going to go away.
I think he should just go on www.james.com and basically on their search engine, he can type it in.
They have a subscription service, but the specific article that you can put up for your listeners and your viewers on the Internet is basically 342 words, and so that can be extracted and it can be linked just like you did on the other two articles.
Or if he would like, he can call me after I get off with you at the number that you called me at.
And then also, Art, the thing is, is that what people have got to realize is this, is that when you bring out stuff like this, important information, they've got to do their homework, just as you've done your homework and I've done my homework.
And I think that it's really, now there's no longer a passive mindset or, gee, I'll just listen to what's going on.
People are going to have to do what they're going to have to do to protect themselves and their loved ones.
Well, when you talk about biological warfare, I actually have talked to a lot of people.
A lot of people call and say, oh, I think the worst is over yet.
And when I ask them why they say that, they can't answer that.
And you know what it all boils down to?
It's not, I know the worst is over.
They say, I hope the worst is over.
And my answer to them is, but what if it isn't?
You see, again, had these scientists not been murdered?
Had this outbreak not spread?
Had all these events, had Walker not made the statement, again, independently, sure, he's a low man on the totem pole.
But when you've got the lowest man on the totem pole, let's say he's the scum of the earth, whatever he is classified or categorized, when he starts to say words that advisors to Vladimir Putin have said, I take note because I know there's no way he knows what she knows because there's no way he heard what she said.
Well, again, what I'm sort of mentally going by is I believe somebody in the government actually said that the warning they're issuing was, in fact, based in part on what Walker said.
Now, the timing for this is pretty close in.
I mean, I believe he was talking about this coming Sunday, perhaps, right at the end of Ramadan.
And then a lot of the analysts they've had, the talking head analysts said, well, what he was saying is any time after Ramadan.
And then the interesting thing that people need to understand is one of the Moslem advisors, to Vladimir Putin, made this statement just about a week to 10 days ago.
He said, and he's a Moslem, he said, the clock is ticking.
The torpedo is ready for the next event against the United States.
That's a very scary statement.
Clock is ticking.
Torpedo is ready.
and someone said, you think that's a code?
Well, I said, on the surface, it sounds like more than a code.
It sounds like they know that there is a timeframe for this to happen.