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Oct. 25, 2001 - Art Bell
02:30:56
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Parapsychologist - Dr. Evelyn Paglini
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From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, as the case may be, and welcome to another edition of the weird, strange, the unusual, even bizarre Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
It's good to be here.
Well, I've got a present for you all.
Actually, in a way, I'm just relaying a present for you.
It has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
And you're going to love it.
So, if you have a compu... If you don't have a computer, why don't you have a computer yet?
What's the matter with you anyway?
If you have a computer already, and I'm going to presume the majority of you now do, Then you must tonight make your way to my website.
And the first item under what's new is called Bin Laden has nowhere to run.
You guys have got to see this now.
It's great.
It's under it'll take you to Bin Laden stuff and then it will load and be patient while it loads.
It's worth the wait.
The song was written and produced by the KOMP Rock and Roll Morning Show in Las Vegas, Craig Williams and Sweet Al Miller, Andy Kay and Doug Marshall.
Or Doug Marsh, I guess.
And this thing is a riot.
It's absolutely well done and a riot.
So just before airtime, as always, as I go through my email, I found this.
Actually, it was sent to me by a friend of mine, Paul.
This is incredible!
This has got to go on the website.
And so, Keith did the usual fast magic.
And it's up there.
Now, you've gotta have Flash.
Now, if you don't have Flash, it's not going to play for you.
But if you have Flash, and you may not find out until you get up there and give it a try, you're gonna love this.
And so will your family and your friends.
I mean, it's really good.
It's really, really good.
I wish I could play... I wonder if I could.
I might be able to play some of it, just by holding my speaker up to my... Ah, but you know it's in stereo and I would miss that.
I could try.
Anyway, you've got to make it up to... Artbell.com is where you want to go.
It's the first item under What's New.
And if you've got a slow connection, you'll have to...
You'll have to wait a little bit for it to load, but it's well worth the wait.
It's called Bin Laden Has Nowhere to Run.
It's up there right now, and it is a total crack-up.
Very, very, very well done.
Speaking of Bin Laden and the war, the State Department mail handler lay ill with inhalation anthrax today.
And the Postal Service set up spot checks at facilities nationwide in the bio-terrorist scare.
Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said that, I guess at a news conference in Washington, we still don't know who's responsible.
They don't know who's doing this.
Could be Bin Laden and company, Taliban.
It could be a separate terrorist group altogether, but I'll tell you, today they came as close as they're ever gonna come to say, saying this, well, this is, in fact, weaponized anthrax.
It's extremely pure.
It's extremely fine, and certainly in the case of the letter that went to Daschle, very fine, definitely weaponized, bad, bad stuff.
Eluding at least one shoulder-fired missile.
U.S.
jets dive-bombed Taliban positions on the front line again on Thursday.
And they're running a nice round, just about 100 missions a day now.
This bombing, and that's another reason this thing up here is very, very good.
Osama Bin Laden, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
It's great stuff.
I'm telling you, get up to my website and see it under what's new, first item.
Oh my.
Attorney General Ashcroft pledged to use new powers granted today by Congress to pursue... I've got a question about this.
To pursue terror suspects, intercept their phone calls?
Read their unopened email and phone messages and throw them in jail for the very smallest of crimes.
Has anybody out there noticed lately the internet has been kind of dogging?
It's been slow for the last week or two.
And I wonder if there is some kind of coordinated attack on the internet.
Just something I thought about, uh, and or.
Some sort of coordinated listening.
Maybe the people in Washington are really listening carefully, you know, for those keywords.
Bomb.
Fuse.
Detonator.
All those kinds of words that you would not... Words not normally said in an airport these days.
Right?
I'm sure they're monitoring telephones for these words, looking for keywords, and looking for conversations of bad people.
And I think that's just spiffy.
Yes, I know.
A little worrisome.
In view of our Fourth Amendment rights, but... In order to find these jerks, it's a good tool and we ought to use it.
U.S.
officials, uh, here's one to worry you, it worries me.
U.S.
officials are worried that the nation's food supply might turn into the next form of attack the government considers potential targets to be.
Echo from a show a few days ago.
Listen to this.
Fruits and vegetables that people eat raw, and of course cattle that could be infected with some sort of fast-spreading foot and mouth disease.
Boy, we really live in some suddenly strange times, don't we?
I mean, basically, we had a president that everybody kind of went, Not much going on, day to day, and then all of a sudden, September 11th, the world turned upside down, and it is nowhere near the same.
The world is nowhere near the same.
We were just struttin' along complacently, and then all of a sudden, boom!
And in more ways than one, and our lives all changed, and we have a war.
I mean, if you recall, we were just, you know, sort of cruising along, right?
And it came out of nowhere.
The way that kind of thing has a habit of, uh, doing.
A brief reminder about tomorrow night.
I promised you, and so we shall tomorrow night, uh, do a very, very, very interesting program.
Uh, we decided the other night, or I did, that the ultimate question to ask you, or a really good one, is to ask you to think out of the box.
Something my listeners can do in their sleep.
And many do.
And, I mean, really out of the box.
Think wild.
Some new, wild, innovative way to win the war we're in.
Whatever it would take.
And tomorrow night, I shall really try and not be judgmental at some of the obvious craziness that we're going to hear.
I will try.
And we will simply allow you to bring forth your best idea of what incredible thing we can do to quickly win this war.
And believe me, there's a million ideas out there.
We'll do that tomorrow night.
Should be fun.
Tonight, next hour, Evelyn Paglini, Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
She is a real witch.
She is a real witch, and by that I mean she is competent in the dark forces.
She can put a spell on you.
She can do real magic, real black magic.
And that's how I first found Evelyn, because, you know, the normal witch is... I get the letters all the time from people claiming to be witches.
And there certainly is one other form of witchcraft, right?
But they don't much take cotton to the ones who practice in the dark areas.
And so there's always that clash there, but if you're interested in a real witch, this lady is something else.
She's the real McCoy.
Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
So there you have it.
Otherwise, open lines.
I think I'm ready.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
It's an honor to speak to you after five years.
Oh, my.
This is Isabel in Byron, California, listening to you on KTKZ on 650 Sacramento.
Oh, that would be K-S-T-E.
Oh, thank you.
There you are, 650.
I get them nervous.
Well, listen, just relax, take a deep breath, and say what you want to say.
Okay.
And then one quick thing after that.
What on earth is going to happen to us people that order seeds and also people that sell seeds through the mail?
Oh, my goodness.
You know, I saw it today.
They're irradiating mail now going to the government.
And the post office is going to buy these things, I guess, for all mail.
And they are irradiating.
You know, Yeah, what's going to happen to seeds?
And what other things, I wonder, might be at risk?
But certainly seeds.
Try sterilize them or something.
Huh.
And then I wanted to ask you, when are we going to get to hear from Robert Goswap again?
Well, I suppose in due time.
I'm sure he'll be back on again.
I hope so.
All right, ma'am.
Thank you very much.
The seeds.
Seeds!
What a good point!
What's going to happen when the seeds are irradiated?
And a lot of people buy seeds through the mail, right?
And there's probably other things that probably would not irradiate well.
Oh, the mail thing.
The poor post office.
You know, I'm thinking about it and I'm, you know me, of course, celebrities have it a little more difficult because they get tons of mail from people that they don't necessarily know.
And so, plus there is the added risk of probably being a target or possibly being one anyway.
So we can't open mail.
This, you know, this war has really screwed things up when you get right down to it.
And the poor U.S.
Postal Service really is probably taking the brunt of it right now.
This must be really hard on them.
Maybe that's why the Internet is so slow, because so many people are sending email.
I don't know.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
Hello.
Yes, I think you once mentioned that We're being drowned in propaganda.
But it doesn't do, I think, just to generally make that comment without pointing out the specifics of how we're being propagandized.
Well, dear sir, the only way you can find that out is to, I would recommend, get a shortwave radio and listen to the BBC, the CBC, listen to what other countries are saying and then you will
understand what you are either a missing or being miss informed about well i think there's
a that's one good suggestion out for instance the one station that's usually
left out whenever they mention that is radio havana and i've noticed
that did you say radio havana yeah i'd like to mention something that has
been censored by our own media concerning that they had a two-week tribunal
involving various prosecutors from other countries u.s. declassified
documents of witnesses and victims of a four-year campaign of terror that the united
states government perpetrated against cuban involving blowing up cuban airliners
bombing hotels machine gunning people on the of resorts but sir sir
sir sir sir sir sir so no no no stop stop
You just ranted on there and the fact of the matter is that Radio Havana is one of the biggest propaganda machines Well, let me make this point.
The point I'm making is that all of the media was present at this tribunal.
It was a major event.
It had the former Attorney General, Ramsey Clark.
It had used various documents from the United States government.
They all filed reports and all of the editors and publishers back here didn't even bother to bash it as you're doing.
They just simply censored it because it would violate this propaganda image of the United States as the white knight.
Uh, Uncle, uh, White Knight Santa Claus, uh, that is only the victim of terrorism that brings, uh, goodness and light to the world.
Alright, alright, alright.
Alright, hold it there.
Thank you.
I think I've got it.
And I don't deny that occasionally even Radio Havana may run something that, uh, is kind of anti-American, but true.
Uh, the better point made, uh, from all of this, uh, you know, aside from the tirade there, Is that, yes, we really are propagandized.
Never doubt it for a moment.
And the only way you can know that is to listen to other news sources.
And there are so many of them out there.
It only requires your reaching out a little bit.
If you have a shortwave radio, you will be amazed at the news you hear that never makes it to the American media.
Never, never, never.
And we could speculate about why they're too busy.
They're covering other things.
Or... We're being propagandized.
And some of all of the above is probably true.
So you've got to make your own decisions about that.
You really should have a shortwave radio anyway.
Well, Mr. The Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Art?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
I thought I was on the first-time caller line.
No, you're on the west.
Are you a first-time caller?
I am, but I'm on the west coast line.
Well, that's okay.
My name's Steven.
Yes.
And I had three points to bring up, and they'll take some thoughts.
I'll take my answer or your replies off the air.
The first thing I wanted to bring up in the light of the past month is, at least through the media, hasn't FEMA been awful quiet?
Yes.
I believe that through the establishment of FEMA, they do have the power to declare a national emergency for many reasons, including public health threat.
With that, they have the power to declare martial law and perhaps assume executive powers.
There's the first point.
You could see that happen here.
It's a possibility.
Certainly, we handled ourselves really well after September 11th, but some greater threat Could bring that on.
It's in the realm of possibility.
And now the language is smallpox.
And?
The second point is I advocate for your caution in your collective consciousness experiment.
Yes.
Albeit good and in the light, through using technology there are influences and sources that we may or may not be aware of.
That's right.
And I advocate your caution.
And the third thing was that if you think about Plato and his geometry, he had geometrical form for every element.
And one of them was a dodecahedron, which is for ether or prana.
And if you took a dodecahedron on scale and put it on the planet, certain points would fall, you know, geographically in certain parts of the planet.
Anyway, one of them, a huge one, was the pentagon.
In fact, every U.S.
military base is very near, if not on, one of those points.
Have you been studying under Richard Hogan?
No, I haven't.
So my last thought is, and then I'll hang up, is that with a plane crashing into the Pentagon, what is the thought form that went into the grid or the dodecahedron of the planet?
Or the collective consciousness of the planet.
I don't know.
It certainly was a really, really, really major event, wasn't it?
So I'm not surprised that it created the spike it did in the graph on September 11th.
Not surprised one bit.
Okay, first time caller line, you are on the air now.
Hello?
Oh yes, I got on.
Hey, hold on, let me turn off my radio, okay?
Oh, that's a must, yes.
First thing all callers should do.
All right, that's all right.
Where are you?
I'm in Pomona, California.
My name's Damien, and I've been listening since, boy, high school.
I'm about 23 right now.
Actually, 24, it's my birthday.
Well, anyway, Art, I wanted to mention something that on your website for about, oh, since earlier this year, remember how you were having the timeline people calling up a timeline Absolutely, yes.
Okay, well, there was one woman who said she was going through time, but she also had visions.
And she said that on February 11th of 2002, there was going to be a nuclear bomb hit New York, and it was going to kill Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Do you remember that?
No.
It's on your side.
It was on the side, huh?
Or is on the side, okay.
Well, I mean, a lot of people predict a lot of things, sir.
Well, I mean... I mean, does she have a track record that should bristle the hairs on the back of our neck?
Who knows, but I mean, it just... Well, I got... Okay, then it's just one prediction, right?
Yeah, but it seemed like... Pretty negative, pretty negative stuff, sir.
Yeah, but it just seemed like such an unbelievable coincidence that... It was the 11th.
The 11th, and it didn't seem like it could have happened back then, but look at now.
Well, okay, I'll accept that, but again, you know, just on the basis of one prediction, without knowing the person's track record on predictions, it's something to file away in the, oh yeah, I'll remember that if it happens category, but not much beyond that right now.
Now, I don't know why I'm so hooked on this song, but I am.
A very old friend came by today Cause he was telling every boy in town
Of the love that he just found And the reasoning of his latest friend
He talked and talked and I heard him say That she had the longest, quietest hair
The prettiest green eyes anywhere And the reasoning of his latest friend
It haunts me.
All right.
Here we go once again into the night.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
Yes, yes.
I'm loving the show.
He said it's fine.
But he was gone, but still his words kept returning.
What else was there for me to do?
Here we go once again into the night.
First time caller line, you're on the air. Hello.
Hello? Yes, yes.
I'm loving the show.
Oh, well thank you.
You know, we keep hearing the hollow words of get back to normal or the terrorist will have won.
Yeah, I know.
Where are you, by the way?
I'm in New York City.
I thought you were in New York City.
I'm in New York City.
Right.
I say no.
The terrorists will have really won if we don't deport illegal immigrants.
And I'll tell you, because American haters have thousands, absolutely thousands of their people in America.
Well, wait a minute.
Most of our immigrants are not America haters.
They're America lovers.
That's why they came here.
No, but I'm talking about the people who hate America.
Who are plotting inside America.
But how do you... How do you delineate between the two without, you know, really... Without, um... Discriminating.
Discriminating and stuff like that.
Or worse.
Right.
But when you're at war with terrorists right now, I believe securing your country is the most important thing I'm not talking about interning American citizens.
whether it's with racial profiling or any situation like that is total
nonsense. First thing is... Well you know yeah but this is of course it's
exactly the thinking that got us into the Japanese internment camps. Well I'm
not talking about interning American citizens. What are you exactly talking
about? What I'm saying is that people who are in this country illegally must be
deported. We must have a timeout on immigration to settle the problem.
Look, I agree with that.
People who are here illegally, that speaks for itself.
They're here illegally.
Bye-bye.
Right.
That should be the first order of priority.
You don't hear any politicians.
You don't hear anybody in the media call for that.
There's only one politician.
He's a congressman, Thomas Tancredi.
from Colorado, Littleton, Colorado, who's actually calling for the deportation of illegals
because he understands...
Well, and he's only calling for the law to be enforced.
That's what we want.
That's all.
I agree with that.
Most Americans are all saying, you know, we need a timeout and we also need these illegals
deported because they shouldn't be plotting inside this country.
Because, you know what their plot is also?
To create massive chaos inside this country.
Yeah, well, listen, sir.
We should have done that.
We should have been doing that before 9-11.
We should have been doing that all along.
Illegals, by nature, shouldn't be here.
And you, Art, you also brought up shortwave radio before, too.
Yes.
Which, sometimes, I listen to once in a while, beside your show.
There's an excellent show on 10pm Friday nights.
It's on 7.415 on the dial.
It's just regular guys who do a show and they talk about you a little bit, but they also bring up a lot of issues that the mainstream media will not touch.
Look at the situation down in Florida with the Antrax.
They were trying to say that the guy who got it first may have got it in his backyard, he's an outdoorsman.
I know.
That's totally ridiculous.
I know.
That building should have been sealed off, his home should have been sealed off, and everybody he came in contact with should have been immediately tested.
Alright, well look, not only that, thank you, but the people, when the mail went through, the government really has admitted that they didn't exactly think this one through on the spot.
In other words, when the letters began arriving, In Washington.
It really should have occurred to them to check the route that they came over.
They were a little slow to do that.
They knew they came through post offices, but they didn't begin to test for the possibility of anthrax until we got sick postal workers.
So they were kind of slow on the draw there.
But live and learn, I hope.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello?
Hello.
Yes.
You had a fellow on last hour, last half hour that is, who was talking about Cuba and things going on there.
Radio Havana, yes.
And I checked up on this fellow a couple of times.
I'm not going to give any names or websites or anything, but he's really misinformed.
The people he mentioned that were in that meeting were not there.
Or anything like that, and there's been no terrorism.
I'm not trying to defend any propaganda by the U.S.
or anything, but I've checked up on it.
Well, there's a high probability.
I tried to tell them that.
Radio Havana, fine, listen to it.
I do it for comedy relief.
Most of it is communist propaganda.
It is comedy relief.
Yeah.
And finally, something you said, now this is gonna, I think you're gonna like this, and I think it's gonna fit in with the Princeton events and stuff.
Um, and people will have to pay to listen to this again on your website.
The night before all this happened, you were picking up on what was going to happen the next day.
You thought you were talking about crop circles, but when you listen again to what you said that night, you were saying biggest news of the day and stuff and I sincerely think That you were picking up what was about to happen the next day and you should listen to that again.
Alright, I'll go back and listen myself, thank you.
I'll pay.
Yes, this whole graph thing from Dean Radin and the consciousness experiment is still blinking outrageous.
Absolutely outrageous.
When you combine it with the experiments we did years ago, It is so serious.
You know, I'm going to talk to Evelyn about this tonight.
In fact, I'll probably talk to a lot of guests about it.
In fact, I got a note from Dean Radin and maybe I'll have him on and he can explain the graph in some detail, I'm sure.
But a lot of decisions to make.
I mean, do we continue with these experiments?
Maybe.
What do we do with this power that I I don't I you know, I don't need convincing I know the scientists probably do but I don't I know it's real Question is what to do with it.
And what are the consequences?
I have mulled this over a million times and all I can tell you is I'm thinking about it really really hard And I have not yet really I have not yet reached any conclusion about what to do east of the Rockies.
You're on the air All right.
Yes I just want to let you know, I do what most of your listeners, what you tell most of your listeners to do, which is check multiple media outlets for their news, and it sounds like your nightmare scenario with Osama is coming true.
Which one?
The one about him having both possession of a nuclear weapon, or several, and dying.
Now that was... I had a guest on who wrote A really, really good book.
God, it was a good book.
I read the whole thing.
And that was the centerpiece story.
In other words, Osama Bin Laden indeed was dying.
In his book, it was cancer.
And he had a nuclear weapon.
And so what are you telling me now?
I'm telling you now that from several media sources that I've seen tonight that he is dying of kidney failures, receiving weekly treatments.
And that word out of Pakistan tonight is that he may have one or more Pakistani nuclear devices.
And Pakistan has taken into custody its lead nuclear scientist.
Aye, aye, aye.
And tell me where you've heard this.
We need to verify this.
Al Jazeera, BBC, Sky News... Al Jazeera, you know that.
You know what that is.
Well, yeah, I mean, I know that's a very partisan source, but I've also heard it from BBC, Sky News, several sources on the internet, ABC, bits and pieces from different... Okay, that's enough.
I will check into it.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir.
Wouldn't that just be the greatest thing?
Can anybody out there confirm that story for me?
That, uh, that Bin Laden is dying and has a nuke.
That was the plot of an incredibly good book that I read.
That you should read, by the way, and I'd be glad to recommend and tell you how to get it again.
Boy, I enjoyed that book.
Boy, did I enjoy that book.
So well done.
At any rate, could it be true?
Could it really be true?
Somebody else will have to verify those reports before I'm going to be willing to take them real seriously.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Look at that button.
Now you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
Randy here in Bakersfield, California, just over the hill.
Yes, Randy.
Hey, I got something that's kind of curious.
I think everybody's kind of looking outside the box on this anthrax thing.
You know, it's kind of curious if Somebody's dumping a letter inside the old blue boxes and the doors go flying, and if it's weapon-grade anthrax, you would think it would fly around.
Next Joe comes along, puts his letter in, or the little kids that like to run to the boxes.
How come nobody's showing up with any symptoms out there in the old rural New Jersey or, you know, down here in Florida?
And if the person's doing weapon-grade anthrax... Well, I think clearly because they're being sent to specific targets in New York and Washington, mostly the media, And the media in Florida.
I mean, the pattern now is obvious.
They decided to...
In fact, the media and politicians.
But the mailman's gotta carry it, right?
Yeah, of course.
And somebody's gotta take it to the mailbox to drop it in the box?
Yes, well, the answer is that these anthrax letters are not going elsewhere in the country.
Probably, hopefully, right now, they're just going to Washington and New York.
Right, and the mailman comes along and picks it up out of the blue box, and then if these spores are in that box, and you come along and drop your letter in, how come we haven't seen more people getting sick out there?
You know, like a little kid going there to drop a letter off for mom and dad, because, you know, my kids love running to the mailbox to drop the letters off.
Well, there was the child at ABC.
I take your point.
But again, I think the answer is that these letters are going very specifically to media outlets in the U.S., big ones.
News media, mostly, and then to politicians and to our government center.
And if you're just passionately looking at this, you've got to say, hey, you know, it really has kind of succeeded.
Because that's the lawmakers are all talking about it.
How many news conferences do we have a day about it?
The media is exorcised over it.
So, it really has succeeded.
I kind of think I agree with Richard.
You know, it seems like a distraction at the level that it's at now.
Even knowing that it's a high-grade, apparently weaponized anthrax, it still feels kind of like a distraction.
Like, here's what's going on with the left hand and Like the magician in the right hand is doing something that you can't see.
So, we'll see.
First time caller in line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hey, Art.
Yes.
Yeah, I've got a, uh, something for you to consider for your quickening.
Uh, yes.
Um, I'll send you the link to our, our newspaper here in town.
Oh, where, where?
There's a tornado here in, I'm in, uh, I'm sorry, I'm in Urbana, Illinois.
Okay.
And, uh, there was a tornado.
In Monticello, Illinois, which is... I heard about that, yes.
Yeah, and it's... The last time there was a tornado in October... Right.
...was like the late 1800s.
Well, we're gonna get more and more extremes of weather, sir.
Uh, that's not anything I can add to my quickening.
That was in it when it was originally written.
Yeah, I just thought I would, uh, um, point it out to you.
I appreciate it.
I certainly appreciate that.
Thank you.
You're gonna see lots of that.
Record, uh, temperatures, record weather, violence of all kinds.
There are going to be all kinds of records broken.
No question.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
All right.
Yes.
Hi, uh, Storm Chaser, the trucker.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Uh, sorry about the fast plot the other night.
Um, okay.
If you know, I was partying.
Anyway, um, Ed Danes mentioned something that I think might be applicable to this current situation.
Yes?
We got, uh... If... Here's the deal.
If something like this new fungus that he was talking about were to come into play, any major plague is going to be basically addressed to these individuals who are causing the situation right now.
And that would be?
Pretty much.
Well, take your pick, people.
Any natural circumstance might just get blamed on the wrong people.
We'll see how that goes.
Well, listen, there's a lot of that going on.
I heard that the Afghans, the Taliban, was going to poison, had a plan to poison U.S.
aid food so that the Afghani people would think the Americans were poisoning them.
I mean, that's a level of the kind of thing that's going on right now.
So I'm at the point where nothing would surprise me.
It's real down and dirty time for sure.
And you can bet the operations we're conducting inside Afghanistan are being conducted at every opportunity with prejudice, if you follow me.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Pardon me for having my radio on.
It's all right.
I'm glad to talk to you again.
I talked to you last in February 2000.
Do you remember talking to me?
I seem to recall your voice.
Yes.
I'm in New York.
You know I tell that because I want your listeners to know.
I like that call from the man who wants this country to repatriate illegals.
And I like the commercial I heard.
about parents keeping their kids from using drugs.
Yes.
Well, you know, again, we should have been deporting illegals all along.
They're illegals.
Yes.
I called to give your caller some context about Bin Laden.
And I think you can use your internet site.
I mean, your listeners.
I think you can use your internet site to put this in context for your listeners.
Maybe you can put a link to Public television's front line on your internet site.
What is it?
About what?
I mean Bin Laden and the history of Al Qaeda.
Oh.
Bin Laden... I like the Bin Laden thing I have up tonight.
Have you seen that?
No, I haven't used the internet for the past few days.
I'm going to use the internet tomorrow.
Are you afraid of white powder coming out of your monitor?
No, no, no, no.
I don't have an internet account at home.
Oh, I see.
And I'm going to be in school tomorrow.
I'll use the internet in school.
All right.
Well, check it out.
It's its first item on what's new.
Oh, look.
Bin Laden approached... Bin Laden, I think, wants to be Saudi Arabia's king or Saudi Arabia's president.
And Bin Laden approached the king in 1990.
Bin Laden told the king, don't bring Americans here.
We don't need Americans.
He didn't say, I want your job?
No, no, no.
Bin Laden said... Bad form with a king.
Bin Laden said, I know many veterans of the war in Afghanistan.
Let me use my connections and I'll bring an Afghan force here in case the Iraqi army turns on our country.
Predictably, the king told Bin Laden to get lost.
Sure.
And Bin Laden keeps saying, The United States must remove its forces.
I don't know how many Americans there are, maybe 6,000.
They want us out of the entire region.
That's right.
You know better than I do, I think, how many Americans are in Saudi Arabia.
Many.
And not just Saudi Arabia, but we are elsewhere in the... Oman, Kuwait... That's right.
They want us out of the whole area.
A lot of them keep saying, Americans must leave Saudi Arabia.
And I want your listeners to know I hesitate to use this play on words.
He's not an altruistic terrorist.
He doesn't kill solely because he hates Americans.
He wants Americans to... When I say Americans, I mean the public.
He wants Americans to become his advocates.
That is to say, he wants Americans to start telling themselves, boy, bin Laden's killing us.
Because this country has soldiers in Saudi Arabia.
Maybe if our country removed its soldiers... He's really screwing up because we're never going to do that.
We're never going to do that.
That's where the oil is.
We'd kill him 10,000 times before we'd pull out of Saudi Arabia.
Who are you kidding?
I wonder.
If that's his message, then our message...
It's cruise missiles and of A-18s and, you know, it'll just keep on happening.
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Now, I know there are witches who say, it can't be, nobody dabbles in the black arts.
That's what I get all the time.
I get so much of that.
So we'll ask.
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Over 40 years of it.
You've probably seen her in many other media forums.
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She's a real witch.
A real witch.
She'll be coming up in a moment.
Somebody else, I got a bunch of fast laughs about Saudi Arabia, you know, how we should leave Saudi Arabia, because Bin Laden wants us to.
And I got to thinking, you know, if you were in the government, you, and you were thinking about this, and you knew that Bin Laden wanted us out of Saudi Arabia, you'd have to weigh it in both hands, right?
On the one hand, you'd have Saudi Arabia and the oil, and the flow of oil to the United States.
That would be in one hand.
And on the other hand, you'd have Bin Laden.
And whether or not you were going to kill him, or whether you were going to get out of Saudi Arabia and stop the oil flow to the United States.
Now, let's see.
Let's weigh that in each hand.
Bin Laden's life, oil flow to the United States.
Boom!
The right hand just went up so fast that it flipped Bin Laden into orbit in the left hand.
So that's what I've got to say about that.
And by the way, the book that I was referencing is Joshua's Hammer by David Hagberg.
I sure would like to get some emails from some of you who read this book.
This is one kick-butt book!
I really loved this book.
David Hagberg, Joshua's Hammer, all about Bin Laden having cancer and a nuclear weapon.
By the way, we're working on the links right now.
There does appear to be something to the news of his having nuclear capabilities, so we're going to try and find the best link for you, and we're going to get that up on the website.
There is something to that.
Apparently, rumors about his illness, but more substantial news, I guess, about his having either a nuclear weapon or fissionable materials.
Either way, not good news.
Here from the great state of California, I think.
You're over in California, aren't you, Evelyn?
I certainly am.
Is Dr. Evelyn Paglini a real witch?
Great to have you back on the show.
Always a pleasure, Art.
I've got a lot that I want to talk about, but I guess I want to begin.
Where to begin?
These people who keep writing me emails.
When they find out you're going to be on, you know, it goes up on the guest schedule.
It begins.
You're a fake and you're a fraud because there's no such thing as a real witchcraft.
There's no such thing as the dark side of witchcraft.
Okay.
Well, I can understand that, but unfortunately, knowledge is a double-edged sword.
And so there is a black and a white to everything.
All you have to do is have an understanding of the power of the craft.
And therefore you are the determining factor whether you're going to use it for black or white.
Why do you think there are so many people who don't believe there is that black side?
Well, maybe they don't want to believe it.
Or maybe they have not come in contact with it, but most of the people that I deal with certainly have come in contact with evil.
You know, I refer mostly to those who call themselves Wiccans.
I understand the Wiccans' philosophy is to harm none, and I respect it.
You know, there's many, many people out there for peace and want the olive branch.
Yeah, but what they almost say is, none can be harmed.
In other words, it's impossible.
No, no.
They're not saying it's impossible.
They are saying that they follow a creed not to use the energies and the forces and the
vibrations that they know exist in magic to do harm to anyone.
Yes, but they keep writing me these emails saying that you can't be real because it can't
be done.
Well, I mean I can't unfortunately turn around and prove it to each and every one of them.
I don't want them to experience pure evil or negativity.
How about a little hair loss or something?
That can be done.
I mean people out there know that they have had spells that have been cast upon them.
There have been curses that have gone generational and unfortunately they have been put on by
practitioners who are extremely good and they know what they are doing and they have no
time and they have no distance.
If they want you, they can get you.
In fact, we could use that certainly against Mr. Bin Laden.
Yeah, I was going to say, now we have this situation with Bin Laden, and although there are many who have The idea that we should not kill Bin Laden, that we should instead put him in jail because we kill him, we make him some big martyr.
That's correct.
Killing is still an attractive option.
Now there's many ways of dying.
Maybe we could improve the possibilities of the cancer.
How about a cave-in?
That too.
I mean, if you spend your life in caves, then cave-ins are not good.
Anything is possible, especially when you're using energy forces, vibrations, and the collective consciousness of mankind.
Oh, bingo.
Collective consciousness.
All right, well, after many, many years, after several years, I relented, and I did another mass experiment.
This one really blew my mind.
Dean Radin sent me a chart.
of random number generators that were affected by what we did.
I assume you've seen the chart.
Yes, I'm very well aware of the random number generator.
What is this power?
I'm going to ask you, what is this power?
What do you think should be done with it?
What are the possible pitfalls in using it?
Okay, first of all, what You have to understand that we use only 10% of our brain capacity.
Now that we are transforming into an age of enlightenment and awareness, our intuition and our sensitivities have gained this heightened awareness.
If it is challenged, if it is taken and focused like a laser beam, then that power can become a mighty tool.
It is forces and vibrations and energies that can be manipulated to cause change.
All you have to do is to remember to bind down the action not wanted.
The trouble is, and I think I said this the other night when I was talking about it all, Uh, you've seen Twilight Zone with Rod Serling, right?
There's always the big catch at the end.
Of course.
And if you don't think of all the possible consequences of what you're doing, then you're gonna do it, and you might get your wish, uh, and then you might also get an unexpected Rod Serling-type consequence.
Yeah, cause and effect.
That's why they say buying down the action not want to be extremely specific at what you are going after.
Doesn't this take very large wisdom though?
So that you don't always run into the devil's small print?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Very definitely.
You've gotten a taste because you have been the conductor and the wielder of a tool Yes, absolutely.
focused in a direction creates an energy and a vibration that can be used for either positive
or negative art. Is there any question in your mind that hundreds or thousands or millions
of minds are stronger than one? Yes, absolutely. And don't think that the Taliban and that
regime out there is not using it because they are.
They're very much into ceremonial ritualistic magic.
Well, I do believe they get down a few times a day and bow to the East, don't they?
And they do more than that.
So forth.
They do more than that.
Yes.
So they are using that power.
Yes, they are.
We were discussing with a very interesting gentleman the other night whether we really are winning this war.
As handily as you would think if you watch the daily news conferences with the generals and the, you know, the pictures of things blowing up and stuff.
Are we really, are we really winning the war that handily?
Or in fact, if you consider what they did do to the World Trade Center's thousands of Americans dead, the Pentagon and now the anthrax baloney, maybe, maybe they're winning.
At the moment they are.
You have to understand they have a hidden agenda.
They want to completely traumatize our minds with fear and insecurity.
They want to attack our belief in this great nation.
They want to keep us confused and frightened.
I don't think that they're succeeding in polluting our minds with regard to This great nation.
I don't see much of that, but I do see people scared.
Well, that's coming.
I do see people scared, though.
Well, that's coming, baby, because it's going to escalate.
Make no mistake, this is only the beginning, and it is a fight against good and evil.
Is there any way that you have knowledge indicating that beyond what the average person might have?
Yes.
What?
I have knowledge of it that is not only escalating what I'm worried about, And I've been picking this up as I have been finding these tentacles that are so far reaching.
Bin Laden is a front.
And there are other, more sinister, more evil men that are the directing force of this.
The hidden agenda goes decades as well as centuries back.
They want this nation to be subservient.
They want To control.
They want us to be servants?
Yeah.
It's never gonna happen.
Cannot happen.
Will not happen.
No.
They cannot touch the spirit of this nation, but they're trying.
Americans would make terrible servants.
Absolutely terrible.
You know, they tell us to go... See, you can become so Serbian if you're frightened enough.
If you're trapped in fear and this psyche, that's what their intent is, to bombard the psyche on a continual basis.
This nation has never lived this way.
Look what's been going on for just the last few weeks.
I know.
Nothing like it in my lifetime.
I've never, you know, of course we've never experienced an attack on America before.
That's the idea.
Yeah.
And so six months from now, nine months from now, how many people are going to be going into therapy?
How many people now are having problems with coping and managing their fear, their anxiety, their depression?
And they have to find releases for it.
And I've got news for you, Art.
I've got a few to give them.
Oh?
Oh, yes!
Well then, by all means, because there are a lot of people so suffering.
Well, first of all, what they should do is find a release.
And one very, very good release is to get into a meditation.
To remove all of the anxiety and pressure and tension.
And then to concentrate on revitalizing and rejuvenating the body.
Hmm.
Another to calm their fears is because people want to know, how can I protect the nation?
How can I protect myself, my loved ones, as well as our servicemen and women in the armed forces?
Well, there's a way to do that.
And how is that?
Well, the first thing they would do would be to take for the nation any white candle Especially one that would be like a seven-day candle.
I wouldn't use a tapir, but I definitely would use a seven-day candle.
And then I would get an essential oil called Shield of Protection.
And you can put a Shield of Protection around this nation.
A dome, an impenetrable dome.
That the only thing that is allowed in is that which comes from God and goodness.
And everything else is repelled or boomeranged back to the sender.
That's kind of like a spiritual Star Wars, but much cheaper.
Right!
Next, you can get either a male or a female white image candle, and you can get this at any metaphysical store.
And you can use imitative and sympathetic magic by, one, consecrating, in the person's name, that individual that you wish to be the subject that you are going to protect.
And I would say it.
I consecrate thee in the name of the first and last name of the individual.
That's how you do it.
And then I would add, whatsoever I visualize shall be done to you, so be it.
It is done.
Now, that image candle has become an effigy, a subject.
And now you, the practitioner, are going to put a shield of protection Using the shield of protection oil around that person, be it yourself, a loved one, or the men and women in service.
And that's another way.
Now, if you want to protect the home, okay, you can use rue, five-finger grass, aldo leaves.
You can use sulfur.
You can use black salt.
These are all the tools that nature gives you.
I'm laughing, Evelyn, because I have a lot of Protection things around my house.
Because she's well aware.
You know, Ramona.
Of course.
It's really funny.
I mean, you know, there are circles and things outside and reporters come over to the house sometimes.
When I let them in, it's very occasionally.
And they always say, wow, what's that?
And I say, oh, you know, it's a garden.
That's a very unusual garden.
That's right.
So these things, these things really They really do protect.
Oh, yes.
Now, if you want to release this feeling of helplessness, this feeling of wanting to get back at the atrocity that was committed, then there is a candle that is called a Jumbo Double Action Reverse.
A Jumbo Double Action Reverse?
Now, listen to me.
This is a very strange candle.
Okay, go.
If you want power over your enemies... Yes.
If you want to defeat your enemies and cause confusion... Yes.
...to your enemies, this is the candle to use with reverse oil.
Reverse... Now it takes dedication, because this is not something that's easy.
You've got to be in front of this candle at an altar probably minimum of an hour.
Oh, really?
I do about two and a half hours a night.
It's a serious ceremony.
This is high magic. We're talking ceremonial magic now.
Now we're going to get into it.
A double? Say it again, please.
It's a jumbo double action reverse.
Jumbo double action reverse.
Yeah. And you can get it at any metaphysical store.
And for those people who can't, they can call me, okay, and I'll give it to them.
818-783-2995.
You sure you want to do that?
Yeah.
In fact, I'll even give him 30% off of anything that has to do with protection or anything that has to do with going after this terrorism and this enemy.
A jumbo double action reverse.
It sounds like a pump shotgun with extra features.
It is.
Of candles, right?
That you have no idea.
And then it requires a minimum of an hour a day in front.
your attention, visualizing that which you want, which is power.
Okay, in other words, you are now empowering yourself.
And you are taking that power and using it against your enemy to defeat your enemy, to
cause confusion, to cause them, okay, to turn on themselves.
Okay, I've never heard of this before.
This must be a big piece of ammo in spiritual warfare, huh?
Yes.
This is strictly spiritual warfare, and I am telling it to the nation because I want them to get involved.
This is the way to release that feeling of helplessness.
This is a way to direct their energy in a positive manner to help stop this terrorism.
Well, an hour is a long time, but not if we can really fight our enemies.
So when we come back from the break, we're going to find out more about the Jumbo Double Action Reverse Candle and the ceremony performed in front of it.
High Magica on Coast to Coast AM.
I've had nothing but bad luck since the day I saw the cat at my door.
So I came into you, sweet lady, and since then you've missed it, co-co.
Crystal ball on the table, showing the future, the past.
Same cat with them evil eyes, and I knew it was a spouse she cast.
She's just a devil woman with evil on her mind.
Beware the devil woman, she's gonna get you.
Rarely, if ever, maybe never, has high magic ritual been described on the air.
How to do it.
So I think we're about to do that.
The jumbo, jumbo double action reverse candle.
But, you know, Evelyn, I want to know what you intend this ceremony to achieve.
Well, first of all, to use it for or against terrorism.
Again, as I had mentioned, you would be using a reverse oil.
You would be lighting the candle and doing a visualization where you are now having power over your enemies.
and over evil and their intent.
And what you are now seeing and visualizing in your mind's eye is that all of the intent that they are directing toward us is now going to be reversed and double-actioned back to them.
It's like a mirror effect of Boomerang.
So we're turning it on themselves as well as empowering ourselves.
What are the likely results of this?
Well, okay, first of all, if it's one person doing it, they're going to have, naturally depending on the amount of their focus and their attention and their discipline, a specific ratio.
If you have a collective company of people doing it, the stronger it's going to become.
Now with your audience doing it, it may become quite exciting.
It could become quite exciting, yes.
But for example, I mean getting specific here, what results could it have?
Again, you would have your people in Afghanistan, those that are in their military forces or in their upper echelons, turning on themselves.
Those people, others could be laying down their arms.
Others would be making so much mistakes that they would be exposed.
In other words, what you're doing is turning it on themselves so that they're going to get the retribution, okay, of what they had intended to have delivered to us.
So that might even be death?
Oh, of course!
Oh, yes!
What they have delivered, they shall return to them two-fold.
Now you see, you are proposing what I was really, really concerned about.
I wasn't even ready to use this power, whatever in the hell it is, in a way like this.
And you're saying you think that can be done safely, huh?
Yes, it can.
But the first intent was to put a shield of protection around the nation.
The second was to put it around each individual and their loved ones and our servicemen and women.
And for those people who want to release this pent-up emotion and to strike back at this terrorist act of atrocity, this is the way to do it if they have the time, the energy, and the discipline.
It's not for everyone, Art.
Evelyn, why should people believe that magic is real?
People mostly believe it's not real.
I think I have to contradict that.
I believe that everyone out there in every religion and culture knows and is aware of the use of magic in its reality.
It has been since the beginning of time, Hughes.
Well, I'll say this.
You know, a lot of average people will scoff at it, but interestingly, for example, Catholic sources, very high Catholic sources, go to any religion, and at the very top, Evelyn, they seem to acknowledge its absolute reality, which is, in a way, a big shock.
I'm just noting that for the average person to think about this, the ones who scoff at it, think about what I just said.
truth. Father Malachi Martin told it to you. I know, no, no I know it's true. I know it's true.
So yes, it does exist. I'm just noting. It works. That for the average person to think about this,
the ones who scoff at it, think about what I just said. At the high, you know, right at,
in the Vatican if you will, and and elsewhere, at the highest points of religions around the world,
they know that it's true.
You might not, or you might scoff at it, but they know it's true.
So you ought to be giving it a little thought as possibly being a fact.
I'll tell you what went on in World War II that I know as a fact.
There was a call to arms, as there is now being done, against Hitler and against his practitioners.
And that call went out around the world to every practitioner, no matter what their religion or their persuasion was, in order to come to the defense of democracy.
Once again, Art, this is being done.
Now, my father and my grandfather were involved with that one.
So I know, Matt, and this is a documented fact, okay?
I mean, there have been more books and articles written, especially in England, about this.
So the pagans will be more than happy to stand up and admit to the fact that a call to arms was done, and it's now.
Well, when you think about it, Hitler started to get pretty weird, didn't he?
Oh, yes.
He had practitioners.
And so do we.
Do you think that... Maybe it's a silly question, but do you... No, it isn't.
Do you think the Taliban and the fanatic Islamics Uh, that are, uh, wanting us dead like this, that they are using these kinds of powers, or their version of these powers.
Absolutely.
You do?
Yes.
Very much so.
Huh.
That's why I said the evil people that are behind Osama, who is a front man, are far more evil, have a far more hidden agenda than you can imagine.
And they use ceremonial and ritualistic magic.
And you're gonna find this out.
You're gonna have other people who are gonna come on this show, and they are going to tell you what they have found.
Well, they certainly have no regard for human life.
Absolutely.
Women, children, doesn't matter, does it?
No, it doesn't.
The only thing that matters to them is their collection of power so that they can subjugate and enslave people, the populace.
It's always been that way since the beginning of time.
Good against evil, the few wanting to control the many.
It hasn't changed, and they're still using the old tactics.
Do you actually think Americans could be made into slaves, virtual slaves?
No, but they can't be frightened.
See, we have been so compliant, so, we've been so compliant, that now we are vulnerable.
And because the psyche is being attacked on a regular basis, we haven't been able to catch our breath.
But no, no, we cannot.
Not the spirit of this nation, it cannot be.
Never happened.
They will never give up.
Never give in.
Yeah.
So, uh, with such a divergent, uh, culture, in other words, uh, if you think of them as one giant microorganism and us as one, uh, the clash is absolutely inevitable fight to the death.
Yes, it is.
And it will be.
And they will use all in their command.
And so will we.
How are we fixed?
How are we, spiritually, if this is going to be that kind of warfare, what kind of condition are we in?
Fortunately, the last 10-15 years, the entire world has been making a shift in raising its intuition and its consciousness.
That's why the other side has, let's say, put into second gear their agenda.
They want to take advantage of the, let's say, windows and doors opens and
opportunities that are coming naturally and use that cycle in order to gain their ground and of
course defeat us.
But we have been gaining ground the last 10-15 years.
Our intuition, our awareness, our psyche, okay, has been heightened to such degrees.
Look how many people had premonitions and dreams and prophecy that has come before September the 11th.
Look at the child in Texas, a grade school boy, who said on the 10th, the next day will be World War III and it will start in the United States.
How many people called me and said, Evelyn, I had so many dreams where I couldn't breathe.
Other people were telling me that they were coming out of their skin or they were so depressed they wanted to hide and sleep.
Well that's because now you're getting in tune with nature.
Now you're getting in tune with the vibrations and the forces.
Is there any way that you think the average Christian can wish or pray for someone to die, or would?
Take Osama Bin Laden, for example.
Obviously, you wouldn't hesitate to use magic.
against him and his forces.
You've demonstrated that already.
Yes.
But my question is, do you think a Christian generally would say they could sit down and pray for the death or downfall?
No.
No, I feel that this is not for everyone.
I felt that those people who wanted to show peace, who wanted to offer the olive branch, who wanted to again put protection shield on the nation and their loved ones, absolutely.
But for those people who realize that you cannot at this time offer an olive branch
And that you have to go with a sword in hand All right. Is there anything else they need to know the jumbo
double action reverse candle? Yeah, and the reverse oil reverse oil and at least one hour of
meditation and visualization Where what they are doing is empowering themselves and our
nation and our forces to overcome the enemy, to destroy the enemy from within.
In other words, you're not specifically saying, I want, you know, a specific person hurt.
What you're doing is you're turning all of that corruption and destruction in on themselves.
And you're seeing it happen.
But why not go for Bin Laden?
Those people will.
There will be others who will not.
They will go for the infantry, you know, to lay down their arms, to turn on each other, to walk away.
Okay, but you're not, uh, that would be the softer approach, I'm sure.
Yes, it's not mine, but for those who have a qualm, it's not mine, it's not ours.
I see, so for those with some qualms about all of this, having the enemy be confused, or lay down his arms, or decide to de-facto, you know, whatever.
Turn on each other, right.
Turn on each other, I guess.
Uh, but, uh, for anybody else who has the, uh, cojones, to go after... The desire, the real desire to pay back for the atrocity.
Then you could concentrate on making that guy sick.
Yeah.
Like I said, you can enhance, uh, the, uh, opportunity.
Now, what are the chances That you will receive some kind of energy in return.
If you're attacking, you can't rule out the possibility that you're going to be attacked in the same way.
Well, of course, but you put up a shield of protection, and that's why I said the white image candle, making an effigy the subject of yourself or the practitioner.
Okay, using sympathetic magic, that which is in sympathy with the body.
A hair, a fingernail pairings, an article of clothing that is one close to the body.
And you put a shield of protection that is impenetrable around you, your loved ones, and your home.
And then you can open up the door and go for it.
Well, I wonder how many people are at the point where they would like to try something like that, where they are ready to get into high magic and get into this kind of warfare magic.
Really, can you start out that way, Evelyn, or are you not wise to jump into something that I said I would rather have those people who are disciplined, those people who are practitioners, and they have the desire.
The rest, I just wanted to calm their fears, help them cope with their anxiety and their tension, and to put a shield of protection around themselves, the nation, and our forces.
So far, though there is obviously an underlying fear in the U.S., I think the American people have handled this pretty well, considering.
Absolutely.
Absolutely, I'm very proud of them.
I've been watching very carefully.
I mean, everybody else forecasts that if this kind of thing would happen, Two big buildings in New York come down.
The Pentagon's attacked.
Poison flowing around in our mail system.
That America would collapse.
That it would just fall to pieces.
Guess what?
Hasn't happened.
Hasn't strengthened us.
Hasn't happened.
No, it only strengthened us.
It only united us.
We have a spirit here.
It's invincible.
And we, like I said, we are complacent, we lull ourselves, we mind our own business, but when something like this happens, you're waking up the sleeping giant.
That does seem to be happening.
You've got to wonder why they didn't consider that.
I mean, doing such an evil thing as was done, September 11th.
You would have to consider that, wouldn't you, in your planning?
No, because their agenda was to frighten us.
The kind of backlash that would create?
No, they thought that they really would, okay, tear us apart.
They thought they would frighten us and numb us and put us into such a state of trauma that we would not come back fast enough.
They underestimated, but they have always underestimated America.
Like I said, only because normally we walk around not harming anyone, minding our own business.
But touch us.
Pretty much.
Touch us and see what happens.
We galvanize.
Well, then there is an aspect of America that has plenty of built-in violence to it.
Of course!
So, we've got some pretty nasty people out there who are probably ready to act on our behalf.
Long war art.
This is not something that's going to be quick and easy.
And I'm going to tell you something else.
I really am worried about this.
I feel, not right away, but maybe in six or nine months, there is going to be a sacrificial lamb.
There is going to be someone that is going to be killed, assassinated, that is going to inflame the population of that nation.
And I'm really worried about it.
I haven't gotten all of it yet, but I've been getting it and getting it, and I'm thinking something's wrong here.
What do you think happens if we kill Bin Laden?
He becomes a martyr, and there's 37 others that'll take his place.
Like I said, he's a front man.
Right now, our attention is focused on him, and unfortunately, not who's behind him.
Directing him.
And I'm not just talking there, I'm talking in other nations.
How sure are you that we face Another massive attack.
You sound like you're really sure.
I am.
It's escalating.
It has to.
Do you know how soon?
My feeling is, is before spring.
Yeah, that's probably a safe bet.
If it's coming, it's probably coming sooner than later.
Yeah.
But again, you're going to have a lot of other things, as Mr. Hoagland had said, that are going to try to distract us.
So that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is really planning.
Sure.
That's definitely, I believe, going on.
Well, that's why what we are doing as practitioners around the world is we are using our energy and our knowledge of the elements and the forces so that we can combat it.
The elements of nature.
Strong forces, right?
Earth, wind.
Air, fire, as well as other things, beings, entities.
I can, Art, show you and your own audience, because you've already done your experiments, that with five names of power that I would utter, you in the audience would feel the energy and the power of it.
It would be transmitted.
You want to name them when we get back?
Sure!
All right.
Good.
Hold on.
Five names of power.
The mere utterance of which, I don't know.
This is pretty serious stuff.
This is high magic on a national scale.
I didn't think I was ready to talk about this.
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Okay, we're talking about witchcraft, and I have to tell you this personally,
because I know this to be true.
I have seen witchcraft work.
It works.
Now, I suppose you can say many things about it, you know, and you can believe that the power comes from a place
that ought not be tapped, but, you know, I've seen it work, and what else is there to say?
I have seen it work.
Of course, it's worth asking about the power, and we will do that.
In fact, let's ask about five names of power.
Here's Dr. Paglini once again, Doctor.
Hi.
Hi.
The five names of power that I'm going to string together, I'm going to first just say the names.
Then, if you would allow, I am going to call the names.
If your audience would take a nice deep breath and relax, when I do the calling of the five names of power, they will feel an energy They will feel their body revitalizing and rejuvenating.
All right, everybody who doesn't want revitalizing energy, turn off your radios now.
All right, they're gone.
Okay, go ahead.
Now, words of power.
Names.
Astroth.
Belial.
Venna.
Tetragrammaton.
I'm only gonna give the spore.
Okay.
All right, right now.
Now take a deep breath.
Okay.
Asmodeus.
Astro.
Bolio.
Venna.
Tetragrammaton.
I call upon thee to bear witness for what I am about to do.
Oh, you know, that worked.
I actually did feel something.
That actually worked.
Either that, or it was suggestive.
I can't know, but yes, I felt it.
I felt it.
It will build, and the longer it is sounded, the vibration, you are calling down a cone of power.
That was kind of neat.
You are calling down forces.
It was kind of neat, Evelyn.
I felt that.
Now, your random number generator.
Yes.
That has proven that if you have the collective consciousness of mind directed like a laser beam, can affect change.
Now add the powers and the elements and the forces and the energies of what I just exposed you to.
And now I explain to you why I said a mighty tool.
Yeah, all right.
Let's... I want to talk about the power a little bit.
Let's do it.
Because this is where all the arguments come from.
You know, all the people who are going to write me nasty emails and write you nasty emails are going to talk about where the power comes from and that... You know, I really did feel that.
Anyway, they're going to talk about...
About it being evil.
Or they're going to think that it's evil.
And anything that doesn't come with verses from the Bible and or Christian song or prayer is evil.
And they really, they certainly believe that.
And I don't know that they ought not believe that.
I mean... They're certainly entitled to that belief.
So talk to me about the power.
Where does this power come from?
Power comes from the source that created us all.
Which we call God.
It is the manifestation and then the direction of that manifestation that you, human beings, must take responsibility for.
Okay.
And stay in balance.
Okay.
It's neutral!
Okay, but the Bible does not say that you can call upon power in the manner that you just did.
Oh yes, it does.
It does?
Yes.
In Christianity you have called upon the powers of the saints, Saint Michael the Archangel.
Yes.
Okay, in order to defeat that which is evil.
That is calling upon a power.
That is calling upon a force.
That is calling upon a name.
There are many entities, beings, energies, and forces that when you use their sigils, their seals, their names of power, when you Put them, or string them together in a certain configuration, then you are unleashing the natural power that God has put into the universe.
And you, as the practitioner, are the director.
But you must take responsibility and stay in balance.
Maybe it's all in the names then.
Yes!
That's why I said when we made the call to arms across the world, It was from the American Medicine Man to the Kahuna, from the Voodoo Priest to Santa Terea, from the Wiccan, okay, to the Strega.
All right, all right.
How about this, then?
A practitioner.
How about this, then?
When people call on the name of God to fulfill their prayer or whatever purpose they... It was powerful, God.
Um, what about people who call on the opposite force directly?
I mean, you know, the big guy down there.
They too are going to get an answer.
A response.
They too will be given knowledge and a tool to use.
Of course, knowledge is neutral.
The tempter, the devil, is the one that says, I can give you this, and now you can have power over others.
Where in the light, it says, I can give you this knowledge, and you can help save others.
Your choice!
Knowledge is knowledge.
Yeah, it always is your choice, right?
Free will, that old free will thing.
And that is why we must keep our spirit down.
But you do acknowledge though that those who call on the other guy can get power.
Absolutely!
That's why I fight fire with fire.
I was trained as a spiritual warrior to fight the dark forces.
So I have been taught their game.
I use what they use against them.
How, in your life, Evelyn, how often do you use, are you using the craft?
I mean, is it a constant thing with you?
Constant.
It's constant.
It is?
Yeah, there's some form of the craft being used.
All the time?
Every moment of the day.
Really?
Yes.
Yeah, I live and I breathe it.
I mean, it is.
It's a way of life.
Has it ever failed you?
No.
I have failed it.
Ah, so any failure to have something occur, you would blame on yourself, not the craft?
Right.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Always me.
That really sounds an awful lot like what a Christian would say, you know, many times.
Again, I have to take responsibility.
I'm not the Wizard of Oz.
I'm one in training.
I don't know it all.
I've made mistakes, and I am human, and so there are times There are times I have made mistakes.
I have used the power unwisely and I've paid very dearly.
That's why I constantly share my knowledge with everyone I can to give them the tools to change their life and to make their life better.
Can you remember one of your bigger failures?
When in my youth, again, it's very difficult when someone touches a member of your family.
It's like I can take anything you throw at me, but don't touch one of mine.
And I was young, and I struck back immediately without thinking.
And unfortunately, I did a very good job.
And so that was my failure.
It was not the power that failed me.
It was me out of balance.
And me having to learn a lesson very young and it certainly taught me one.
I will not use my power against someone who cannot defend themselves.
I want an equal.
I'm kind of curious what you did to them.
Well.
Don't want to talk about it.
Don't want to talk about it.
Okay.
Let's just say that they certainly paid very, very dearly.
And unfortunately, first, I took every person around them, and then them.
I made them watch.
Oh, you were angry.
You were really angry.
I'm sorry you don't go after one of mine.
You opened up the door.
They were an occultist.
Uh-huh.
Okay?
They opened up the door.
They got more than they bargained for.
Did you remember to protect yourself?
Yes.
Yes, I hope that's... Yes, but I... After I got done, I chastised myself for losing My composure and for using so much force against them, I could have been a little bit less violent.
Well, that's what I worry about in applications of these experiments that I've been doing.
Well, that's why you bind down the action not wanted, or if you are worried about using a negative, then what you use is strictly a positive, by putting a shield around the nation, that kind of thing.
But even positives can have unintended consequences, and you've got to sit down and think of all the consequences first, and it's just not possible, because we all know Rod Serling's out there somewhere just waiting for you.
You know, with one of the consequences that you just happen to forget, the small print.
No, if you set your mind in such a manner that everything that you are expecting as an outcome is of a benefit for mankind, for humankind, That there is no negative response and that's what you're going to get.
You're going to get that which is going to unfold in a positive manner that will help and increase mankind.
It's being specific.
It's saying the words very specifically and then in the mind's eye seeing it happening.
What is above becomes below.
What your mind conceives You can bring into the physical plane of existence.
How many people do you think in America have studied as you are now studying and have for all your life?
How many people are actually actively in the craft?
Those that have been in it from birth that have a heritage, I would venture to say maybe in a minimum, you may only have several thousand.
Okay, but those who are practitioners of the craft that stretch from culture to culture, you're talking millions.
Uh, is it popularizing in America now, or is it fading?
No, it's popularizing.
People are getting more into nature and the elements, more in tune with their psyche, only because they're having experiences, and they're trying to find out, alright, what is this?
They are able to perceive like the shadow people.
Yes.
Okay?
Like those people who are being able to communicate with spirits.
All of this is coming to the forefront and people are investigating it because they're saying, it's happening to me.
It's happening to my child.
Right before my eyes.
And so therefore, yes, they're having more tolerance.
They're gaining understanding.
And now they want to know, how can I use it?
Okay.
To benefit.
Again, myself, my family, my loved ones and mankind.
That's what I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to share the knowledge.
I'm trying to say it's not something that's evil.
It's not something that comes from down below.
Get that out of your mind.
See, that's been impregnated in your mind to keep you away from a tool and a power that you can use to benefit yourself.
All you have to remember is to stay into balance.
I'm not teaching you to go out there and do something against your neighbor.
I'm doing something to give you an opportunity to help yourself, to improve your career, to attract love and romance, to put a shield of protection around you from negativity.
Now, I like the idea of being able to attract somebody of the opposite sex just with a little spell.
You can.
You can.
Red image candle.
Male or female.
Attraction oil.
And you know what?
Don't concentrate on the height and the weight of the person.
Concentrate on the attributes, the qualities that you want in that person.
Humor, honesty, trustworthiness, understanding.
Big headlights.
Whatever!
When you get it, you will attract it to you.
You will magnetize it.
So that's real.
It's real.
Can it go too far in the movie The Craft?
You remember it went too far and the fellow got attracted to the girl and she couldn't get rid of him.
Yes, very definitely.
Always when you're going to be doing a ritual you have to make sure that you want the person because it can come to a point
where you are attached to this person and you can't get rid of them.
We're getting serious for a second.
If you cause through a spell to have somebody fall in love with you, are you not always
going to be in doubt about the nature of the love that you are experiencing, that it is
not real?
Absolutely, and I don't recommend ever doing a spell.
That it's not given voluntarily.
Yeah, no, no.
What you're doing is, one, you're attracting someone into your life.
Now you have met the person you say, you know what, I'd like to enhance this relationship.
Okay, now what you're going to do is do an enhancement.
In other words, you are not forcing someone to fall in love.
What you are doing is enhancing what is already there.
But you would say, wouldn't you, that you could take somebody who, for example, you're very interested in, And they're not interested in you, and you... they're just not.
So there's not much there to enhance, but you could still cause it to happen, right?
Oh, yes, you can, and there are those people, honey, who will live with that fear that, yes, they've used a spell, and I don't know why that male or female is really there, but they're willing to pay the price to get the person.
And so they'll use the magic that way.
Yes, and it can work.
Yep.
And it can count a boomerang.
Yes, it can.
Because then you've got to live with that, assuming you get what, you know, it's under the category of be careful what you wish for.
That's right.
Somebody, ill-gotten goods, as it were.
Always a price to be paid when you use it wrongly.
Always a price to be paid.
Yeah.
Listen, I know that you've got a service and you provide candles and incense and oils and All kinds of things relating to magic from the bottom to the top, right?
Yes, I do.
How do people get in touch with you to find out what you've got, I guess?
Alright, the phone number is 818-783-2995.
818-783-2995, right?
818-783-2995 Uh, 818-783-2995, right?
And of course we have a link to Mystical Blend on your website.
Right, your website, Mystical Blend.
And then there is QEP at MSN.com.
That is your... Email.
Say it again.
QEP.
QEP.
At MSN.com.
What does that stand for?
Question, Evelyn Paglini.
Oh.
Uh, QEP at MSN.com.
Right.
So people can send you email.
Yes, and for those who still do feel they can write... All right, well, if it's an address, hold on to it, all right?
All right.
We'll get it on on the other side of the break here.
Okay.
All right, I'll repeat that email address as well.
Well, my guest is Evelyn Paglini and we're about to go to the phones.
Once again, Dr. Evelyn Paglini, and we were going to give out an address, I think,
for people to write if they want to write.
Yes, it's Paglini, P-A-G-L-I-N-I, at P.O.
at P.O. Box 57932 Sherman Oaks, California 91413.
91413.
Peg Leaney, P.O. Box 57932 Sherman Oaks, California 91413.
Correct?
Correct.
Okay, but the phone number which most people will use...
Is 818-783-2995.
Or QEP at MSN.com.
That's QEP as in Question Evelyn Paglini.
Pretty cute.
Pretty cute.
All right.
I want to go to the phone lines.
In the past, we've never had enough calls.
I've always hogged you.
So I want to take some calls.
You ready?
I'm ready.
All right.
Let's see what's out there.
And it could be anything.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Evelyn Paglini.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
How are you?
Fine.
Uh, is it okay if I call you Artie?
No.
Alright.
Art, Dr. Edelman, how are you?
Fine, sure.
Um, I have a quick question.
Actually, two questions.
I'll make it quick.
Um, I had an ex-employer threaten myself and my family, kind of similar to your story earlier.
And my initial gut reaction was to, you know, inflict threats on them as well.
And actually, I am very, very frightened by the threats.
Um, however, I don't want Anything too bad come to them, I just basically want them to leave us alone.
Mm-hmm.
What would you suggest?
Oh, a pink candle, peace, love, and harmony.
In other words, what you can do is you can send them peace and love and understanding and have harmony in the relationship.
If you want them to move away, then there is another ritual where you can send them to find something better in life, a new opportunity, a better business, a bigger home, and so this way what you are doing is removing the influence And yet you are sending them no evil, no negativity, and no harm.
You are only enhancing their life.
You're bumping them upstairs.
Yep.
Out of your influence and out of your space.
Okay, so that's a pink candle of harmony.
And a pink candle using peace, love, and harmony oil.
Okay, consecrating it in the person's first and last name.
If you can visualize that person in your mind's eye, If you are, it would be imitative if you can get something of theirs, then you would have sympathetic going for you, and that two connections would make it even stronger.
Okay, and I guess my second question is, do you smoke the filtered or non-filtered camels?
Do I what?
Do you smoke the filtered or non-filtered camels?
He's thinking that your voice has a husky sound to it.
Oh, no.
No, I don't smoke camels.
OK.
I was just checking.
All right.
Just answering, sir.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you so much, Dr. Evelyn.
Thank you.
Ciao.
Ciao.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Mr. Ardell?
That's true.
This is Joe.
I'm calling you from East Los Angeles.
I'm only 20 minutes away.
How are you doing, ma'am?
How are you?
Fine, sir.
I have a question.
My question is concerning the fifth column among us, the Al-Qaeda network in the U.S.
I'll give you an example.
The Al-Qaeda, while large numbers of them were from Saudi Arabia, they practice a religion called Mohammedanism.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right.
Can you help me?
I think it's Mohammedanism.
Yeah, Mohammedanism.
Okay.
Now, there's a mosque in L.A., okay, King Fahd Mosque in Culver City.
up sponsored by by the public family in saudi arabia
now what i want to know could we use
color divining rod we need people out
how would you identify them how would you we don't know how could be
because i think you think of the protection for the nation but i think
they're really inside how could we identify
i'm sorry or what you would do is a black
uh... image candle and it most of the congregation is a male
and that would be the gender that you would use and...
And what you would be doing is causing exposure.
In other words, confusion and exposure will give them away.
And so therefore, you would be able to weed them out.
If you want to identify them, how would you do that?
That's what he- That's how I'm telling you, that they have to cause them to be exposed.
To make a mistake.
to do something wrong to cause attention to themselves.
In front of you? Like if I stand in front of the mosque?
Yeah, either in front of you or by their actions.
You don't care how and when it happens as long as they're exposed.
As long as they're rooted out.
Do you have any like idea of how this would happen?
Would they like trip, fall in front of you or?
Oh yeah, in other words, what would be the real world probability results?
What's the range of things that would happen?
Okay, if you want it to happen in front of you, then what you can do is heighten your sensitivity.
Your skin can become, okay, like a radar.
And when you are in their presence, you would have your hair stand on end.
You would be given, let's say, in your T-force, in your gut area, OK, a feeling or a pain, not discomfort.
And that would, let's say, make you alert or put you on attention.
But if you were just wanting to expose those people who may be within this country that are plotting and planning against the nation, then what you would be doing is a general exposure so that what they would do is make mistakes and be caught.
That's good.
I like that one.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Good evening, Art, and merry meet, Evelyn.
Merry meet.
I wanted to get your opinion on something.
I would say about four to five years ago, I was kind of what you would say spiritually numb.
I wasn't interested in spirituality.
I wasn't on any kind of quest.
Certain things did happen, but at this time, I was being this studious college student and skeptical.
I guess you could say lately I've been, um, the past four years there's just been so much happening and finally my family let me in on some stuff but my question is I get this feeling that there's a lot of us that have all been here together at some other place before and that somehow we reincarnated and we're here to serve that purpose that we knew that was going to be coming about.
Um, I guess basically what I'm asking is, um, You're right on, honey.
A very good question.
There have been so many people that have been reincarnated in this time slot in order to not only experience, but to help in the transformation of society and its evolution of the soul.
There have been quite a few people incarnated in my time slot, too.
That was a joke.
Okay.
Well, we've all been here before, huh?
Yes.
And we have chosen to be here now at this time.
Well, here's something that bothers me, Evelyn.
I think that it feels right.
We've all been here before.
And maybe we're just victims of knowing history.
But in a lot of ways, even though the issues may be different, they're not that different.
And here we are at war again.
Everybody's trying to say it's not about religion.
It kind of is, frankly.
In other words, same old, same old.
History repeating itself, all killing in the name of our God, and so forth and so on.
I'm not in any way suggesting that we shouldn't be out there doing this, because we have to.
I'm just saying that I wonder if it's ever going to change.
Yes, it is.
Because each time the soul has an opportunity to gain ground.
To become one with all things and to become one with the God force.
And therefore, those who will return will return because they choose to walk among us as masters to help other souls complete that evolutionary cycle.
Where's the change happening?
I mean, still we want to enslave, we want to kill, we want to conquer.
I mean, that just hasn't changed.
Because while we are here manifesting in the physical plane of existence, that is our purpose.
To make the choice.
To either fight for democracy and freedom, or for enslavement.
Yeah, that's a choice all right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
No, I didn't push the button.
Close to the Rockies.
Now you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
I'm catching John KGA in Spokane, and if I want an 18-minute delay, I go down to KFI in Los Angeles and pick you up.
I get both of them.
A quick comment on the visualization with the super candle, actually.
You might use a punch bowl and set it in a punch bowl and sprinkle some water.
Water is a very, very good factor in these things.
Of course, it's the element of water.
Oh yes, yes, absolutely.
You carry your intent upon the water, but what is even nicer is when you use the element
of air, which you can use with smoke or incense, and you can send and focus your intent using
the element of air.
See, when you call in the elements, darling, you can use them to enhance any ritual.
Yes.
Now you're magnifying the forces and the energies.
Hey, caller, can I ask you a question?
Please.
And then you can continue.
When she called those names out, Earlier, did you hear that?
Yes, I did.
Did you feel anything?
Yes, in fact, I'm familiar with them.
Okay.
My mother and father had a congregation going in my living room when I was born, and basically, I've been touched since I was about, well, before I was born, but in the flesh since I was 10 years old, and I've been studying for well over 35 years.
I was wondering, without much of an autobiography thing here, you had mentioned, Dr. Evelyn, that you're having trouble finding equals.
I believe that.
I really sympathize with you.
I won't go after anyone unless I can sharpen my claws and they at least are going to give me a fight.
I will not go after someone who does not have the same power.
I will not go after an innocent.
I can't.
I'll defend an innocent.
against anyone who's using their power against an innocent.
Oh, let me hear about it.
Oh, bless your heart.
Okay, because then I don't know what magic is really all about.
Yeah.
I have no qualms.
Well, that's part of the reincarnation thing in our choice.
I think that it's the most powerful that choose to be here at this time.
My father told me I came in with a sword in my hand.
Yeah, I think you did.
As I listen to you, I think that's right.
First time on our line, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Yeah, I was wondering what backgrounds are your teachings from?
Genesean.
I am Strega.
I'm a Tuscany witch.
It's one of the most ancient religions on the planet, long before the Druids and the Celtics of Northern Europe.
Southern Europe had its own traditions, and one of them was the Strega.
And I am Very proud of the heritage that I have.
Is there anything in that background relevant to Sirius?
Yes.
Okay, you know the Dog Star?
Yes, I do.
Okay, do you have any idea what the relation between Sirius and the occult is?
There is a lot to do with it.
There is many manifestations and occupations of this planet.
We have had DNA tampering by extraterrestrials, and we are now finding out that we have been on this planet that history will have to be pushed back a minimum of 575,000 years.
And you are going to find that one of the people, extraterrestrials, came from the Dog Star.
Alright, that's what I wanted to hear.
That's what I had assumed in a way.
Really?
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of reading into the occult and Krillian magic and things like that.
Yeah, get into Mathers and Agrippa and Crowley.
Yeah.
And then get into Rigardi.
Yeah, Israel Rigardi.
Yep.
Now you're talking high magic, honey.
Now you're talking ritualistic and ceremonial magic.
Yeah, there's a lot of underlying symbolism.
And the sentence is like, there can be six meanings in one sentence when you can only pick out one, and there's a lot of it.
Right.
You keep picking up things that have to do with Sirius and the Dog Star and Silver Star.
Mm-hmm.
The occult, that was AA.
I don't know the name of it, but it was one of the Quillian ones, and the letter was AA.
Well, that was because Crowley left the Order of the Golden Dawn and started his own AA.
Yeah, and the AA, if you translate it into English, says Silver Star.
Mm-hmm.
Which is also Dogstar Series.
That's right.
I've just been reading a lot of books and getting into it.
Coincidence and synchronicity actually has been coming up a lot now.
Anytime you delve into magic, synchronicity comes into play.
You will find books, you will be introduced to people, you will be guided.
That is what magic does.
It attracts those people who can enhance you.
Well, you're both way over my head with this and I'm comfortable with that.
All right.
Thank you very much, Colin.
Thank you, sir.
Great question.
Take care.
Obviously, he knew what he was talking about.
You knew what he was talking about.
Yes.
This is the old way.
This is the old tradition.
Okay.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, Art.
My question is this, or let me tell you a little background first.
What is your first name?
Cliff.
I'm from Nashville, Tennessee.
I was molested as a child and I was abandoned.
I've been married, I'm married now, but the hardest thing I've ever faced was my little boy passed away.
Sometimes I think, I grew up in South Louisiana and maybe there's been something, maybe Something has been put upon me.
My question is, is this possible without you knowing?
Could a lot of these things happen because of this?
My main thing is over my little boy.
First of all, if you've been in a negative cycle for an immense amount of time, meaning
many, many, many years, then I would suggest that you do a cleansing.
A cleansing will remove all negativity, whether it has been sent to you or whether you have
been accumulating a negative cycle that is now feeding on itself.
Once you do a cleansing, then you put a shield of protection on you so that this way if there
is someone who has intent to do you harm, it will not penetrate.
So, Evelyn, you can really...
If you've just had what you're going to call a string of really, really bad luck, you can assume some force is at work and go after and cure it generally, right?
Yes, you can.
Absolutely.
OK.
All right.
Hold on.
We're at the top of the hour from the high desert.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
And Evelyn Paglini is here.
And I'm here to tell you that I'm not going to be a good mother.
I'm not going to be a good mother.
One day you're up.
We turn around.
You find your way.
It's coming down.
It happened to me.
And it's going to happen to you.
I wasn't sure I felt secure.
Until I took the pill.
And here we go once again, Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
Evelyn, welcome back.
Thank you.
Welcome back, yes.
Okay, here we go.
Lots of people.
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
My name is Nikki, and I just had a comment.
Well, I have two.
But, like, the Thursday before the bombings, I was at, like, a prayer meeting at my church, and so we were praying, and somebody was like, there's a real, real heaviness here.
And we couldn't figure out what it was, you know, so we just kind of let it go because everybody's like, you know, I'm doing fine, whatever.
And then, so the bombing happened that next Tuesday.
So we were back in prayer Thursday and we figured out that that's what it was.
That's what the heaviness was.
And before that, like that Tuesday, I had been having like, I had a real upset stomach, you know, and I thought, well, maybe I'm pregnant again.
But after the bombing, it went away.
Yeah.
And then are you happy about that?
Oh, yeah.
But but I mean, there is a power.
I believe it's God, because another time I was at a prayer meeting, like a retreat.
And me and my husband, we've been married for we've been married for like five years then.
And we had been trying to get pregnant.
for like the first four years and so the woman asked, you know, anybody that's trying to
get pregnant, come up, you know, you're going to supernaturally get pregnant and I was like,
okay, because I'd never done anything like that before.
So I went up and a week later, like about two weeks later, I was pregnant.
These would be Christian fertility rites, I guess, huh?
Yeah.
All right, Evelyn, what about in the craft, if somebody wanted to get pregnant, really
wanted to be preggers, what do they do?
Okay, first of all, they could put out the call by using a white image candle for the
spirit or the soul of the child.
Next, they can put the color of either lavender, lilac, purple, or orchid.
That will, again, bring in the spirit to the body.
Okay.
So does the wearing of, the concentrating on, and the use of.
A white image candle, your visualization, and the wearing of the color.
That and a white negligee.
Or lavender.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Evelyn Bagley.
Hello.
Or a black negligee.
Anyway, there you go.
I'm sorry.
Good morning.
Evelyn, I have two questions.
A caller called a little while ago, and you were discussing the dog style whip, and I was wondering if you could kind of bring it down to Maybe my mundane level.
I didn't understand the whole thing.
Could you tell us what the importance and the meaning of it is?
And my second question is this September 11th tragedy.
Do you think that there was something more about it?
Because we hear about this, uh, people going through these strange emotions and a lot of people are saying, well, that's just post-traumatic stress disorder.
It's very normal.
Do you think that that attack was something much, much more than that?
And have we entered in?
To what maybe some people call the quickening or the tribulation.
Is this the final act?
How far do you think these events will lead?
Alright.
Well, first of all, as far as how far the events will lead, there is going to be an escalation.
Was this intention in order to traumatize?
Absolutely.
They want to traumatize the psyche.
The human psyche of this nation.
It has done that.
And what they want to do is to, like I said, instill confusion, fear, and to make us be afraid to continue our normalcy.
And there is a very definite agenda.
And like I said, they've escalated the agenda only to coincide with that which is happening that is part of the quickening.
The transformation that we are going through as a population.
And as far as the Dark Star Cirrus... Yeah, I didn't get much of that.
Okay, there have been many colonizations of this planet.
And in the colonizations of this planet, there has been alterations of the DNA.
One such colonization came from the Dog Star Cirrus, and there are many practitioners of the craft that follow their ceremonial traditions.
Now, there are others, okay, that also have come, and they too... In other words, in your Bible it states, the sons of God looking down upon the daughters of man, Found them fair, co-mingled and copulated with them, and born unto them was the Nephilim race, the men of old, the men of renown.
That's right.
So what they are saying to you is many times the sons of God have come down and impregnated that which was evolving upon earth.
And from that we have acquired, okay, what we call today Homo erectus, or humankind.
So we have the spark of the divine within us.
And that spark of the divine is that which is from ancient civilizations that came from other planets and other star systems, one of which is the Dark Star.
So, we're kind of a mixed breed.
We sure are.
And the lineage of certain societies... Remember when we were talking about secret societies?
Yes.
And their agendas.
And why gold is the metal of the gods and blood is the nectar.
They have called upon certain demons, certain entities and beings, in order for them to gain power, in order to control or subjugate people.
I officially deny even the existence of one secret society.
There are many.
There are so many.
Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini, hello.
Hello, this is James Cole from Florence, Alabama, listening to you on Yes sir.
Your fault or theirs?
Yes sir.
Yes, I've got two quick questions.
First of all, for the past two or three years, I've been unable to hold a steady job for
more than anywhere from three to six months.
Your fault or theirs?
Theirs.
Because to my knowledge, there is nothing that I have done to cause this to happen.
Also, second question is...
That wasn't exactly...
Okay, okay.
Are you asking why that is happening?
What can I do to ensure that this will stop happening?
Okay.
Okay, once again, I'm going to repeat it.
If I'm in a negative cycle, I'm going to do a cleansing.
Okay.
Once I do that, I can do an attraction for prosperity and better business.
Okay.
But you cannot attract something to you if you've already got a built-up negative cycle.
Okay.
And the best thing to do, honey, when you've got a black image candle and you're going to use a visualization technique, visualize like you fell into mud and it's all baked and taped on you, and that's going to represent The negativity and as the candle burns, it's all starting to like flake off and ooze off and fall off until you're baby clean and baby smooth.
Okay.
Now, once you're done with that candle, then get a white image candle and put a shield of protection on you that is impenetrable.
And then go get a job.
And then, no, no, then you do an attraction, Richard, for prosperity.
It'll bring it to you?
Oh, absolutely.
I see.
Well, wait for your offers then at that point.
Okay.
Okay the second quick one in December I'm going to be involved in a custody battle and I want to know if there's anything or what I need to do to ensure the outcome of this will be what we're wanting.
Alright first of all you can There is a spell or a ritual that is called like legal injustice.
Okay.
And what you could get is a justice oil, a success oil, a confusion oil, and I'll tell you why.
Okay.
What you're going to have is let's say a green male image candle to give you and your attorney success.
Okay.
A black image candle that you are going to use for confusion Okay for the opposition.
Okay.
And then a pink image candle to represent the judge who's in the position of authority who's going to hand down and that you use justice oil.
Okay.
Okay.
I understand it is a meditation ritual.
It's going to take you probably about five or six days to do doing it about a half an hour to 45 minutes a day.
It's worth a try.
Try it and let me know.
Will you?
I sure will.
All right.
Take care.
West of the Rockies.
You're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Most of the Rockies are on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Oh, hello.
Hi.
Third time's a charm.
Yes, Dr. Paglini, I've been raised in a Christian fundamental background, and I will say that the Bible stories, especially from the Old Testament, have in recent years taken on new meaning for me.
And I think, I don't know, it seems like there's a lot that they don't tell us in our basic fundamental faith.
When you look back in the Old Testament about Joshua marching around Jericho and it falling and Daniel on the lion's den and different things, there were all these interventions that were done.
And Christ even had, you know, in the New Testament had his miracles.
And it does teach us many things that you've talked about like we're in a battle against principalities and spirits and teaches us how to turn more to pray together is good and I've learned to pray to bind the enemy and use oil.
Excellent!
And these are all but these are kind of like almost some people in some of the fundamental groups kind of think of it as heresy.
But I'm open-minded and I don't I believe it all works together.
My main question and my curiosity is why do you feel you have to use candles and certain oils?
I mean I believe in putting like olive oil around and things like that.
But to go through the ritual of a candle with a certain color... That's a really good question.
Yeah.
What is the meaning of candles that are certain colors and the oils and all of the trappings that seem to go with this, Evelyn?
Why do those help?
Why are those part of it?
Okay, first of all, everything has an energy and a vibration and a force.
Right.
Color, especially, has a vibration.
Now, when you're going to tap into, let's just say, the color of red, which is the strongest vibration in color, you can use color of red to empower, to energize, to quicken something.
But you can also use red for passion, to stimulate the libido.
Okay, to increase vitality.
Because the vibration is one of so much strength.
That's why they say be careful not to put red in the bedroom.
Or too much red in the home because you'll have anxiety.
You'll have fighting and you'll have arguing.
Well, you know, that's interesting because everybody knows if you're in a fast red car, or just a red car that looks fast, even if it's not going fast, You're going to get stopped, you're going to be a prime suspect for every cop, you know, you're going to be a total cop magnet.
Red does that.
Right, and if you go into any fast food restaurant, you'll notice that the color is red.
So the reason why you're going to use other tools, like the vibration of color, you're going to use herbs.
Okay, that also have their vibration and their purpose.
Sure.
Then you're going to call in the elements of air, fire, earth, and water.
All of those are tools to assist you in manifesting or bringing into the physical plane that which you desire.
So it's an assistant.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
That's a good square answer to the question.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Doctor.
Hi.
Yeah, same.
Very interesting that some of these things you're mentioning today, some just click with me as far as we were just discussing as far as genetical engineering a few thousand years back, actually a little bit more than a few thousand years back, but what I wanted to suggest and mention as far as that you might have familiarity with, because I was planning on calling Art tomorrow, Is this problem that we have had from these fellows out in the East, and as far as the spiritual aspects, as far as their worshipping of their deity and their effectiveness of their methods of how they went about doing what they did, and what I wanted to say was that not only them, and I believe that they had some empowerment by doing so, but I think there might have been some other people
that are not part of their group but are within America that are very, very well familiar with the elements and tapped into them and assisted them and had a very nice formula and went about doing this.
I will have to agree that there are some individuals across the world as well as here in this nation for their own gain Would join in this agenda.
Yes.
Well, reason why I mentioned is I believe that I might know of certain particulars or groups that might have done so to, uh, or what would you say, make a point.
And as far as this is quite a shame that they would have done so, uh, not too long ago.
And I fairly often have contact with people that are in opposition with major deities, if you know what I mean.
Yes, I do.
Yes, and I believe I've had confrontations with these people almost face-to-face on a couple different occasions all due to my familiarity with all aspects of spirituality and religion.
And as far as, it's quite a shame if they did have any Particular action in as far as being part of this.
They will lend their energy.
They will lend their knowledge.
Exactly.
In order to support because of their own greed and their own agenda.
Yes, it is a shame.
Yes, yes.
And as far as I don't know if they would be up to this again, but this is really a Really a sad thing as far as, you know, I hope that they would not do it again.
I've tried to be suggestive with these people and try to be within reason.
And as far as I really don't know what to say or do otherwise.
You cannot be reasoned with, honey.
Not with that intent.
What you have to do is you have to bring them down.
You have to expose them.
And if you cannot do it one way, you can always do it magically.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Pat Guiney.
Good morning.
Hello?
Hello.
I have a quick question for you, Art, and then one for Evelyn.
And by the way, that caller, if he knows something that could be reported to the FBI, should go ahead and do it.
Absolutely.
Of course.
Now, I, but for you, it's two and a half weeks, or two and a half to three weeks, something like that, to Veterans Day, Art.
And the last time I talked to you, you were going to, and made a commitment to interview, to uncover the cover-up of our government as regards the USS Liberty.
Which as you know now we're really into the awakening period of the Middle East so I still think that to interview the survivors would be great.
They did send you information.
I did do one years ago and I talked to several survivors and I would be willing to do it again.
Oh okay well it might be the time when people are thinking about it on Veterans Day and I do know that you did receive from some of the veterans Um, some information last April, May.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, anyhow, um, my question to you, Evelyn, is about the, um, forces that you called on.
Um, you called four out of five that you knew about.
No, I called four and then put the fifth one when I made the call.
Oh, I see.
Okay, well, here's the ones that I know about.
Yeah, because I would not have used the fifth one unless I had pulled the call in.
Oh, okay.
Um, I couldn't get all the names, but I did get one name very clearly, or I got two names.
One of them quite clearly, and that's the one Belial.
So then I decided I'll look this up in the dictionary because I remember from Edgar Cayce, the sons of Belial were the bad guys.
And lo and behold, it says, the biblical name of the devil or one of his fiends, one of the fallen angels in Milton's paradise lost.
And I thought, oh dear, I'm not sure if I want that one.
And then the other one was Astarte, I think you called on, who is the Phoenician goddess of fertility and sexual love.
And I thought, well, That's all great, but I mean, we're trying to fight for our country.
No, what I did is I took... Listen, I want to hear this myself.
Can the both of you hold on?
Sure.
All right, we're at the bottom of the hour.
All I know is this.
I really did feel something.
That was amazing.
I really did feel something.
Now, I had either set myself up psychologically to feel something, or it was real, but it sure felt real.
I really did feel something.
How about some of the rest of you?
I'm sure I'll get mail on this.
from the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
You know, remember tomorrow night it's going to be open lines all night long and the question is going to be but
one.
And it is a challenge to all of you out there to think way outside of the box.
Outside of the box.
How do we win this war?
If we come up with wacky ideas, maybe one of them will not be so wacky.
You will, however, hear a large percentage of wacky ideas.
Don't let that bother you.
In fact, don't Uh, not contribute because you think your idea might be thought of as wacky because it might be the one idea that will work.
In the meantime, back to, uh, Dr. Paglini.
Doctor?
Yes.
Uh, once again, let's give out your phone number.
It's 818-783-2995.
818-783-2995.
And that is answered roughly when?
Usually between 10 a.m.
and 8 p.m.
Okay.
Pacific Coast time.
All right.
783-2995 and that is answered roughly when?
Usually between 10 a.m. and 8 p.m.
Okay. Pacific Coast time. All right and do you have you know a
catalog of...
Yes, I have a free catalog.
If anybody would send a dollar, I will send out my how-to catalog.
Okay, and that includes... And also the 30% off.
I really mean this.
Anybody that's going to be into putting a shield of protection around the nation or their family or their loved ones.
Anything that has to do with protection, I will give them 30% off.
Gotcha.
Alright.
Young lady, you're back on the air with Dr. Peg Lee.
Well, it was about Belial and Astarte, and I don't know the names of the other ones that you called upon.
I'm familiar with the elements of fire, wind, water, and so on, but this I was less familiar with, and maybe you could help with.
Does Belial mean you're calling on some sort of... Okay, first of all, you're calling upon a name of power, and I wanted the audience to be able to see, feel that power, and allow the energy to revitalize and to rejuvenate.
So what I did is I called on the names of power and used their aspect of power to direct
it so that you, the audience, could feel it.
That's what it was used for.
That's why I said take a deep breath, relax, and allow yourself to feel the power and let
it revitalize and rejuvenate your body.
Did you feel it, Carla?
No, but I thought, gee, I don't know.
I think I was one of the, you know, my mental things were going.
I think I was one of the sons of the Law of One back in the Atlantean time when Edgar Cayce was talking about that there had been a terrible battle between the sons of the Law of One and the sons of Belial.
The sons of Belial went out.
The sons of the Law of God and the sons of the Law of Righteousness.
Okay, the old name of Belial is used only for those people who want to attract the power.
It has nothing to do with evil.
Remember, power is neutral.
It is you, the director, the practitioner, who decides if that power is going to be used for a negative or a positive.
In this instance, I showed you just about the calling down the power and then directed it in a positive force.
Well, and apparently in those days it was sort of like they had a harp type of a situation, just like we're facing
today all over again.
It's like deja vu all over again.
Yes.
And we had, we apparently misused the power, a crystal or a power in some way, and reversed the poles and all kinds of funny stuff.
And we are, you know, now facing this thing all over again.
And I'm just also concerned that when we are in this business with uh... against and certainly i don't
care for trash bin and what he did
but on the other hand we do need to pursue a even-handed policy towards the
palestinians person fit israelis we've been
what they know it was going to be a neutral nation that is so we don't get the energy of one side over another
and so i'm just uh... a true figure out here trying to get balance things
And that's the way to balance it.
When you're doing your visualization, you are only sending the negativity out to that individual or individuals who have their intent focused on us.
Yes.
We're not hating innocent people.
Yeah.
No, I mean... We're after evil.
Only evil.
Right.
I agree about that.
I'm just, I'm bothered in another way, too, that our tax money has gone out for guns and bullets to do bad, really bad stuff to a segment of society that has been treated like dogs for years.
I think we've got your message, which is fully political, and that's fine.
Yeah, but magic art, you see, we don't use bullets.
Yeah, but they arrive.
And the innocent are not affected.
Except they can arrive the same way, depending on how they're sent.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
How are you doing tonight?
Fine.
I'm a constant listener of you.
I'm calling from Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Are you on WISN?
Yes, sir.
What I had a question for you, Dr. Paglini, is I'm a gentleman that has gone through very bad relationships in my life, and I was with an ex-wife that actually beat on me and treated me terrible.
And a lot of other women that she did me bad to and I'm just trying to figure out a way I can bring the one, the one that is the woman in my life to bring me happiness and goodness into my life from now on.
Instead of being with somebody, both different women with this negativity around me that, you know, somebody positive in my life and I'm trying to think how I could do it.
I have mentioned earlier to concentrate on the attributes and the qualities of the individual that you want to attract to you.
Most people will say, I want a specific height, weight, coloring, and they forget to come from the soul and the heart.
So what you are attracting and manifesting is that which you are fearing.
You're constantly in a loop.
A lot of people do that, don't they?
A lot of people do that.
They attract what they don't want or fear.
Right.
And they do it again and again and again.
So we have to break the cycle.
That's right.
And concentrate and focus on the attributes.
The attributes, the qualities you want.
Yeah, that makes sense.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Hello, is this West of the Rockies?
Yes, that's you, West.
Okay.
This is sort of maybe off the line just a little bit, but I thought maybe she'd have the answers for this.
My friend is reading a book and the title of it is YHWH.
Someone said that was the name of Jehovah in Hebrew.
Yes, one of the names.
There are 72 names of God in Judaism.
Now the keys of Enoch, what can you tell me about that?
That is the Enochian form of high magic.
And it would take you probably a good 10 years in order to understand the call.
I got into evocation and summation at the age of 22.
And when you are calling upon certain beings and entities, then you are going to be using not only the vibration of sound, but the seals and the sigils and the talisman that belong.
And the Anakin is a very high form of magic that is used worldwide.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much.
All right, thank you.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Great show, man.
Thank you.
I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
I'd like to shout out to my buddies in the Tennessee Valley Healthcare System and ask Dr. Paglini I heard earlier about the fertility to become impregnated.
What about to have twins?
Is there anything to help out there?
I'm really glutton for punishment.
Again, honey, what you're doing is putting out the call for the spirit or the soul of a child or children, and if that soul feels that the incarnation within your environment and within your family and the
opportunities that you offer, then it will heed the call.
Yeah, I'll tell you what, I've got advice for you too.
Before you start calling on plural souls, you better have a talk with your wife.
Yeah, also I know somebody that never quite seems to get their just desserts and I don't
want to curse them or anything, but I like to see them get his just desserts every so
often.
And you want to know, again, what you can do is do a black reverse image candle.
And so, in other words, use just the soil and that which has been sent shall be returned.
Great.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
Take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi.
Hi.
It's kind of interesting.
When the doctor was reading off the names, I was trying to write down the names as she was going.
I got the names down and right after I got done, it was a little strange, but a red rash appeared on my knuckle and it was a stinging sensation and a white welt appeared and it was sort of like in the form of a crescent moon and it was just really strange.
I didn't feel anything else because I was too busy writing down the words.
So that was my experience with that.
Secondly, she was mentioning earlier that We seem to be in a heightened state of awareness right now.
I happen to have had an experience that was kind of peculiar.
Just about a month before the attack, I had an experience where I was... Do you guys recall the gentleman in L.A.
who had dreams like seven nights in a row of an airplane doing kind of a turn and then crashing?
No.
No?
Okay.
Well, anyway, I was having that experience while I was wide awake.
I was having just flashes of an airplane in the air just doing a kind of turn and crashing into a tall building.
And I was wondering, I was looking at it thinking, well, that looks like L.A.
and I was going, well, maybe New York.
And for a period there, it kept on going, probably about... You, of course, realize all of this would have been so much, very much more impressive... I know.
...than you told us then.
I know.
I know.
We'd all be going, oh my God.
But I'm going, Art, I'm going, oh my God.
You know, and she was mentioning that, you know... Many people have... Right.
...pathetic dreams and visions and, like I said, stress, depression, anxiety.
Yeah.
You're not the only one, and that is because of the heightened awareness.
There you are.
Okay.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hello.
May I follow the alert?
Yes, sir.
This is Keith from Hamilton, Ontario.
Okay.
To Evelyn, I've talked to her several times, and to you, Evelyn, actually about this once before, but constant, every day, Hall of Fame, bad luck.
I had to talk or ask because of a previous caller that somebody mentioned synchronicity.
Is there a link between synchronicity and bad luck?
Because I'm noticing like you say a word and the television says the same word or things like that happens to me every day.
Yeah, there would be a synchronicity trying to give you a warning letting you know that either you might be under attack or that you have such a built-up negative cycle that it is now feeding upon itself.
In your own intuition, your own gut feeling is giving off alarms or sending up red flares, saying, let's do something about this.
Yeah.
You try to add it up, or try to figure out, you know, like, how do I measure this into my life, or how do I see a sign to this?
But, like, there's no way to add it up, you know?
It's just, it's just very strange.
You get about six or seven... You should have a journal that will start adding up.
Yeah.
There you are.
Keep a journal.
Good idea.
Thank you.
All right.
Take care, sir.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
This is Diane in Sacramento.
Actually, Carmichael now.
First of all, I did feel that power after she called up the names, and I wasn't expecting to because I was going around the apartment doing things, and I didn't even hear it very well.
I want you to know I was only at, I would say, quarter throttle.
I turned it up a notch, it would have become exciting.
About two or three days before the attack, I felt like I just had to get up and move.
Of course, I've been hearing over and over again about people saying we should move out into the country because of anything like this, away from populated areas and stuff like that.
But just three days before, I said, I've got to do it now.
Of course, I wasn't able to, but I just felt like I should.
And I also, this is probably more logic than anything, figured that they probably would learn to fly the planes themselves.
And I did have another thing, continuing to something more personal.
I wanted to know if you were in Sacramento about two and a half years ago at Arden Fair Mall, because I thought I saw you there.
No, I was not, unfortunately, was it me?
Okay, well, there you go anyway.
We're running short on time.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Paglini.
Hi, my name is Ryan.
I'm calling from Concord, North Carolina.
Yes, sir.
You know, I listen to your show a lot, Art, and I've heard everything, you know, extraterrestrial sightings, psychic activity, magic and everything, but I've never really personally witnessed anything like that myself.
And I sometimes wonder if it's possible for a person to be blind and deaf to spiritual phenomenon and magic involuntarily, the same way, you know, You have a blind person or a deaf person who just doesn't want to be.
That's a really good question.
Evelyn?
Yes, it is a very good question and there are many people out there who will shut down their psychic ability.
They will not allow it to rise to the surface.
They don't want to deal with it.
Or they don't know how to deal with it or they are afraid of it.
Yeah, but is there a natural Are there some people who are, as there are people who are blind or deaf, Evelyn, despite how they might try, it's just not within their grasp?
No, everyone has latent psychic abilities.
It's just that they have to find out where their niche is.
Would you have any suggestion on how to go about finding that then?
I'd have to talk to you personally.
Okay, well I've already sent you an email.
I'll be more than happy to answer it.
Just make sure you have some patience because it took me a little over a month to get back to most of them.
And the email address is QEP at MSN dot com.
Question Evelyn Paglini.
That's QEP at MSN dot com.
Easy.
Alright?
Just people have patience.
Alright, caller.
Thank you.
Take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
Hello.
Hi, yes, I have a question for her.
Go ahead.
Turn your radio off first.
That's important.
Okay, it's off.
And go ahead.
Okay, the question I have for her... Your name is?
My name is Corey.
Corey?
Yes.
Yes, Corey.
Well, I'm a student of a certain school that is actually located very close to the incident, the bombing that took place.
Okay.
And I have to agree with you full-fledged as far as when you said that we have to take off the gloves and handle it in that respect as far as Us, uh, dealing with those that are behind the scenes.
Mm-hmm.
And I would definitely, uh, like to emphasize one point in particular, which is I would like people to, if they could, if they would, visualize not the Taliban, not bin Laden, but those that wish to enslave us.
Those behind the scenes.
That's right.
Those are the ones that we really need to concentrate on.
I have an access television show in the Austin area, in Austin, and that's what I've been trying to emphasize.
Excuse me, um, my motto is enlightenment versus infrightenment.
And I'm trying to counter that.
I'm trying to counter that negativity, excuse me.
And as far as the Patriot Movement goes as well, they have a lot in common with the so-called New Age Movement.
They're both very demonized, but they both have a lot in common.
One thing in common they have is Christ, in particular.
And that's another thing that we can concentrate on as well.
Excuse me, I'm a little nervous.
But I emphasize in particular concentrating on those that wish to enslave us.
if you want to do the visualization.
All right, sir. Thank you very much and have a good morning.
One more maybe. East of the Rockies, you're on there with Dr. Evelyn Paglini.
Hi. How do you spell Paglini?
Okay.
And could you repeat quickly the formula to attract someone romantically?
How do you spell Paglini?
P-A-G-L-I-N-I.
And this man obviously wants to attract somebody romantically.
Get yourself a red female image candle.
Get yourself some attraction oil.
Consecrate it in any woman with these qualities and attributes.
And then mentally put down those qualities of humor, understanding, etc, etc.
And as the candle burns, what you want to make sure you understand is that the action must come from the person to you, meaning they are coming to you by plane, by train, by boat, you don't care, but they're going to get to you.
How about a specific person in mind?
Oh yeah.
Then you are going to consecrate it in that person's first and last name by saying, I consecrate thee in the name of, and then whatsoever I visualize shall be done to you, so be it, it is done.
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