Art Bell welcomes Ghost Investigators Society (GIS) founders Barbara McBeath and Brendan Cook, who use blank tapes in haunted sites like Rollins Prison—Wyoming’s former execution facility—to capture EVPs, including tormented voices like Andrew Pixley’s recorded confession: "I killed you, you laughed at me." Their cemetery recordings reveal mocking echoes of Barbara’s late husband Roger’s voice and childlike queries like "Can you talk with it?" Skeptics dismiss EVPs as demonic, but the Vatican’s past interest and GIS’s rigorous methods suggest spirits may linger due to unresolved trauma or residual energy. Whether trapped in torment or unaware of death, these phenomena challenge conventional beliefs about the afterlife, offering unsettling yet undeniable glimpses into the unseen. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest Levy Dual evening, good morning, good afternoon, as the case may be across all 24 worldwide time zones.
A $100 billion tax relief bill, seen by both sides either positively or negatively, in other words, it went down party lines pretty much, narrowly passed the Republican-led House today.
It was a 216 to 214 vote.
The minority, the bare minority, suggesting it will only help big business.
The majority, barely a majority, suggesting that it will get the economy going.
And they're probably right.
You know, there is a truth in America.
It's not necessarily one that I suppose we're proud of.
Or maybe we are.
Some are.
And that is that big business is a big part of America.
Big business and our economy are, to a great extent, make us what we are.
Don't discount people and what they believe and how they work and their ethics and morality, such as it is.
I don't discount them.
We are Americans.
But to a large degree, big business and how it goes for big business dictates how the economy goes.
And that, you know, it trickles all the way down to either jobs being available, mortgage money being available, it trickles directly to your pocketbook, in my pocketbook, all of us.
So it's pretty important that it do well.
Anyway, it's an age-old argument.
We certainly will not settle tonight.
The Taliban has been taking pot shots at our airplanes with missiles and missing.
As the airstrikes continue over Afghanistan, the Taliban decided to give it a shot, and they fired a few missiles at our planes, and they missed.
But I'm sure they'll keep trying.
Federal officials and Bayer have come to an understanding and meeting of the mines.
Apparently, Bayer is lowering the price for Cipro down to, I understand, 95 cents per pill.
That's way down.
The government has agreed to buy 100 million pills at 95 cents.
If they buy another 100 million, I think it's 85 cents.
And if they buy another 100 million, that would be roughly one pill for each person in America.
Somewhere in between 200 million and 300 million, right?
It would go down then to 75 cents per pill.
So there you have it.
That's basically the news as it is.
The market bumped, I don't know, about five points, I think.
You notice when it goes up, it doesn't go up very much.
When it goes down, it really goes down.
Been a lot of bad news.
All right, so up and coming in a moment.
Open lines.
What's on your mind?
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Weird Stories on the Radio.
Must be Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
You know, when I started doing this radio program, Jesse, half of the subjects I was really into-the paranormal, the unusual, ghosts, and things like that.
The conspiracy stories, you know, I was a little weary about these, other than the Kennedy assassination.
And all of a sudden, I woke up.
I simply woke up.
Is that what happened with you two?
Yeah, that's when I really started to say, what is going on here?
And I started to truly then investigate 9-11.
And today, I don't believe the government story of 9-11.
Here's the three options.
Either we knew about it and allowed it to happen, or we knew about it and participated in it, or these were the dumbest buffoons that could have ever been in charge of our country who could have all this free information.
And I started to think they knew it was going to happen.
They either are part of it or they allowed it to.
There's no doubt in my mind.
Now we take you back to the night of October 24, 2001 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
And when the music was starting in the beginning, I went over to my shelf here in my closet and I was getting this tape of, so I wanted to ask you when are you going to be playing that GIS?
I don't know whether you've ever heard the GIS people.
And I suppose you can rationalize away what you're going to hear tonight.
And, you know, that's fine.
I don't mind.
I offer it up for your consideration.
The only thing I am sure about is this is legitimately done.
So, you know, if you're going to bat it around and say it's baloney, then I think you at least have to contend intellectually with the manner in which the stuff is received.
You've got to find some logical way, some good argument to argue it away, and I don't know of any.
So my grandmother comes down, finds him awake in the middle of the night, and he's looking out the front window, and he's telling my grandmother, he's saying, you know what, I think I'm going to die.
And she's like, no, no.
Well, he's looking outside, and he's saying, I see them digging my grave right now out in the front window.
It seems to me that little tiny children, you know, babies up to maybe a year and a half old, And really old people who have begun to suffer what we consider to be dementia, you know, that sort of thing, they have a whole lot in common.
Which is almost what we need to look more to and forget about all this what's going on earth and start looking more out in space seeing what's going on.
And that just showed me when that, it was such a spooky and effect feeling that he was in touch.
And I do, I've been listening to you for a while, and I think we've gotten away from the one thing that I've heard you speak of in a lot of people is the shadow people.
Trust me when I say the shadow people have never gone away.
I've had no less than half a dozen guests talk about them now.
I have had so many thousands of emails about the shadow people I couldn't even begin to tell you.
Things, creatures seen just as a sort of a flash in the corner of the eye, and now people beginning to see them head-on.
Thing is, the majority of my guests that commented on the shadow people didn't think it was good.
They really didn't think it was positive.
The closest to positive we got, I think, was Ed Dames, who said these are merely shadows of ghosts, which was an interesting theory, to be sure, but others who commented seemed to feel these were really negative entities for the most part.
I was wondering if there's any way I can get in touch with Richard C. Hoagland and maybe acquire some information he was talking about with the assassins.
I was wondering, two or three days ago, I get a Portland news station here in Newport, and Book News, about 15 minutes before, they said something about a report about a crop duster spraying something on a riverboat.
I've got an interesting story for you to kind of go along with some of the stuff you talk about.
A girlfriend of mine had about not feeling good, things going on with her.
They diagnosed her with fibromyalgia.
And they said that she had possibly MS. Well, her twin sister lives in another state, was diagnosed with heart problems and went in and had a quadruple bypass.
And the minute that her sister got in the surgery, my girlfriend felt better.
Wow.
And, you know, it's kind of the weird thing that goes on between twins.
I just thought that might be an interesting little story for you, Art.
The whole thing about twins is really, really interesting.
The connection between twins is not to be argued.
It, however, has been studied positively for a long, long time.
There's no question about it.
They have a much greater mind meld with each other than the rest of us on average.
It's going to be open minds for another half hour, and then we go to the cemetery.
I'm Art Bell.
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This is Coast to Coast A.M. You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 24th, 2001.
You've been wrong, I don't wish to know.
You know it's just your own sky.
Got me on my earthly.
Yeah, darling, do you think?
Darling, don't you leave my way around?
Try to give me those alations.
No romantic, no.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I'll get pressed into the town I'll find some crowded avenue Oh, it will be empty without you Can't get used to losing you no matter what I try to do Gonna live my whole life through loving you Called up some girl I used to know
After I heard her say hello Couldn't think of anything to say Since you're gone, it happens every way Can't get used to you no matter what I try to do Gonna live my whole life through loving you I'll
find somebody waiting to see Who am I taking only me Cause no one else could take your place, champion Eastern You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 24th 2001 Good morning.
Art Bell Hey, don't forget, Friday night, Saturday morning, the topic is going to be a challenge to you.
Think outside the box.
Think out of the box.
And when you do, when you come up with the strangest, weirdest, most outlandish idea, some way that we can win this war, then you need to call me and tell me.
And believe me, my listeners think so far out of the box that sometimes they can't even see it.
So we're bound to get some pretty spiffy ideas already.
I'm getting warning, Guard.
You're going to give the enemy some great idea that our leaders will seize upon.
Well, if it's not aired, how can anybody seize on it or be worried or warned about it?
So I'm not too worried about that.
We'll try to come up with ways we can win the war.
If you let it go, if you can let go, release, and let the feeling take over instead of being scared by it waking up, you will travel outside your body.
Try it.
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Well, I've tried to let go, but it's like you said, I mean, it is pretty scary, and you use your willpower to.
I'm a control freak, and I can't stand the feeling.
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Right.
Well, the link mentioned, well, kind of a scary one, the evil presence.
And people sensing.
I mean, it really chimed with stories of shadow people.
And I've seen, I've got two dogs, and there was one, I mean, not too long ago, I swore I was reaching for a dog on the dog at the end of my bed, although he wasn't there, he was on my floor.
And he's black, and you know, I swear, you know, I thought I was reaching for a dog.
So in one respect, I somewhat envy you, but I digress.
You and I also are fans of the late Terrence McKenna.
indeed so and I'm telling you art since you initially mentioned the random number generation back shortly after the 9/11 attack and you mentioned this is before the experiments that actually
Hi, I just have two quick things I want to run by you.
Last week, I was telling my husband that I had a gut feeling that the anthrax was a distraction and that Osama was actually going to introduce Ebola virus over here.
I heard what Richard said.
Yes.
But then I heard today that actually what was going on over there was an Ebola-like virus that started in the summer.
The sightings that are really good are the ones that are so close that you don't wonder what you see.
You wonder why more people haven't reported it, but of course, really they have.
Something so close you could almost throw a rock at it.
That's what I saw.
You know, once you've seen something of that magnitude, so close up, it sort of changes your outlook on everything because you understand at least some things.
You understand a lot of these reports are damn well true.
Well, you go with the one that gets the signal there.
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Well, there you go.
Hey, Art.
Hey, yes.
I want to ask you a question.
Have you, again this is getting way off the subject, but have you ever been so in love with someone that you knew precisely what they were thinking even when you all were not together and you kind of almost like remoted each other?
It was very safe, and it was the most wonderful thing that ever happened to me.
I want to say, in case he's listening, because I have not, I don't know what's ever become of him, and I have looked in the internet and every place I can think of.
And I just wanted to say, in case he's listening, he put my feet on the path to heaven.
And I didn't stay on quite the same path, but he put me on a path which ultimately led me to the shortest cut to what you and I would call paradise.
Now, I was thinking about that, and I was also kind of thinking about what Princeton had to say about it and their reaction towards the actual results of the test.
Yes, no, no, since it was proffered to us by Dean Rayton, who is one of the founders of the Global Consciousness Project, it is odd to hear what his colleague says at Princeton.
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Yeah, and also, you know, about them wanting to get more testing done on that.
To be fair, it's Dean Raden who wants more testing.
unidentified
Right, right.
But I also feel that, you know, whatever kind of things that fall into the hands of scientists eventually fall into the hands of the government, which eventually can be turned into a weapon.
I'm Cherokee also myself, and I love the Native American chants and flute music in the background.
Right.
Last year, in October of 2000, I belonged to a Cherokee Honor Society out of Tahlequah, Oklahoma, which is the Cherokee capital of the world for that part of the country.
And we honored her.
She came to Tahlequah, and we inducted her into our Cherokee Honor Society last year, and she is a beautiful, beautiful lady.
I just wanted to tell you that I live here in an old farmhouse in the Missouri Ozarks, and at nighttime, during the quiet hours, I turn on my CC radio and light my candles and fasten my seatbelt and prepare to take a ride.
You know, my network up in Oregon, just as we do here in this house, take in cats.
Recently, one of the radio station network cats was smushed by a car.
Very sad.
But something strange happened.
The other day, a golden-colored cat came in through the old cat door.
And that seems to happen with animals.
I don't know if you're an animal person, you know what I mean.
You lose an animal, and then another one comes in.
And this cat, they've decided to call Night Shift.
So I thought this would be a good song to say, welcome to the network, Night Shift.
I understand she's really something.
They've got a new cat.
And we've got a show coming up all about the other side.
Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeet.
And I'll tell you, you've never heard anything like this in your life.
The following hours are going to either encourage you about the other side or scare the hell out of you about the other side.
It tends to do the latter to me because I kind of figured when you go to the other side, you ascend to some nice, lovely place.
Probably not 70 Virgins, but you know, it's nice, right?
As you listen to some of the voices that have been recorded on tape, this electronic voice phenomena, you will begin to debate with yourself what the nature of the other side really is and how anxious therefore you are to get to it.
At any rate, it will, I promise you, cause you to think.
So stand by for that.
Electronic voice phenomena.
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Now we take you back to the night of October 24, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Music Now, GIS, the Ghost Investigators Society, GIS, was started by Jenny Nielsen, Roger and Barbara McBeet, and Brendan Cook.
Brendan is the webmaster of the GIS website, www.ghostpics.com.
He's been conducting ghost research and ghost investigations in the field for the last three years.
Brendan was very skeptical about electronic voice phenomena until he first recorded it for himself.
That was about three and a half years ago.
His desire to learn how EVP happens has been the driving force in his continuation of conducting ghost research and investigations.
His goal is to help explain the phenomena of EVP.
Since Barbara was a small child and able to read, she has researched and read everything she could get her hands on concerning true ghost experiences, from true ghost stories of experiencers, as we get here on the air, to case files from ghost researchers in the field, plus her own interviews with those who have experienced ghost phenomena.
Although she grew up with grandparents who had practiced spiritualism and she indulged in it herself, at least until she reached young adulthood, her views have changed over the years toward the entities that she used to deal with in her seances and the ghosts that linger in our realm.
She was raised not to fear the entities who were in her house as a child and does not fear the ghosts who remain among us.
She has been researching and investigating for over 30 years.
Well, you know, I think the first most important thing to do before we play any of this remarkable material is to explain to people exactly how it's obtained and the stringent methods in obtaining it.
It really is important that people understand this, otherwise, it's too easy to write it off.
But if you explain to us how it's done and the care that's taken in doing it, then they'll understand the significance of what they're hearing.
That he would have believed that, that, you know, he believed that himself, that he didn't look for some other scientific explanation, you know, since that's what he worked in.
Or maybe he did and he simply couldn't come up with one.
Yeah, and that's really one of the things that's so nice about this is you can spend as much or as little money on this as you want and still get results out of it.
Well, some of the voices are, to us, are definitely, it's very, very clear on what is being said.
And other times, all of us will hear different things on voices.
And it's the ones that we get that we definitely know what they're saying, that there's no question to us on what it is saying, most of the times it will relate to something that we are talking about at the time.
And this voice will come in and say something that is relating to what we're talking about or what we're doing at that time.
We've had many people say that we're picking up either cell phones or radio transmissions or CB radio transmissions.
But most of the times it is relating to what we are talking about or doing.
All of this, as it always has through every program I've done with you, bothers the hell out of me because that means, A, that the spirits are in a conscious form.
If they're listening to you and they're able to interact with you, that means it's a very body, yes.
Which might be a good thing if you're not stuck down here on Earth, unable to communicate with anybody other than in a short burst onto a tape machine.
Think what kind of life that must be.
Lonely, dark, cold.
I don't know.
Just it's unattractive.
You don't necessarily have that take on it, do you?
You know, and I definitely do believe that when you hear these voices tonight, especially the ones that were at the prison, you'll definitely hear the torment and the madness.
But when you tell them, look, we want to go in with tape recorders and record the voices of ghosts here in your prison, how do they react to that idea?
In fact, they used to, when the prison was built, it started being built in 1886, and the completion of it was done in 1894, and it sat in custodial status for a few years, and then in 1901, it was opened and they started putting prisoners there.
All right, well, this first one was recorded by Barbara's husband named Roger, and it was recorded while he was walking from the library of the prison into the old hole.
And the hole was where they used to stick the prisoners that had been bad or disobeyed the guards.
What they would do is take off all their clothes and throw them in the hole naked.
And this is in Wyoming, so during the winter, this is extremely cold, and some of them would go insane or just basically freeze to death.
Yes, I asked Tina, the director, to research it and see if she could locate the name of a doctor by that name or if there was a prisoner that was nicknamed that.
If the experience on the other side is not almost universally some sort of negative experience for those who remain here on Earth, why do we get the best results from areas where people have been murdered, where people have committed suicide, where people have been executed, incarcerated, or otherwise more or less tortured?
Unless there is some kind of an imprint in the atmosphere at that location that takes place, I think that sometimes the voices that we get are that type of occurrence.
But the ones that interact with what we're doing and talking about, I have to think that there is a presence there.
We'll see if we get more of that from the audience.
All right, let's keep moving because there are some really good ones that I want to get to a little further down in this list of the prison recordings.
If you have not one, but two recorders going at the same time, both with the same tight controls and brand new tapes and all the rest of it, do you get the recording on both machines?
You know, I'm glad you brought that up because it was something we were going to bring up at some point in the show.
It's an interesting topic because sometimes we do and sometimes we don't.
In fact, a couple of the voices towards the end of the PRISM section were recorded by everybody, whereas some of the other voices were only recorded by one person who was standing right next to somebody else with a recorder.
My theory is that when just one person gets it, when everybody should have, when everybody's in close proximity to each other, I feel like that spirit is just talking to that person that records it.
And I mean, at this point, that seems to make the most Sense so you all get together and I presume that you discuss the work you're doing and the results you're getting and the implications of the work that you're doing, don't you?
In other words, if eventually this is taken up like crazy and people actually prove to themselves there is another side, another dimension, heaven or hell or whatever it is that we're communicating with here, what are the implications of that?
Well, first of all, to get to the first part of that, and it's something you may not be aware of, is ghost investigating, ghost hunting is actually becoming one of the largest hobbies in the U.S. right now.
This one was recorded at the prison, but it was recorded at a different time than the first one that says, I'm walking.
Roger recorded this one on our second investigation, and it says, I'm always walking.
And what's interesting, I was going to bring up earlier, there was a prisoner who paced in his cell so much back and forth that he actually wore a trench in his cell in a cement floor.
You can see where his shoe was, I guess, as he would turn around and walk the other direction.
You've got to listen a little bit, but clearly, always walking, always walking.
And that's, to me, folks, that's the dark side.
My God, if you've been in prison all your life, or you've died in prison, or been executed in prison, to imagine the sentence continues on the other side, listen.
Here's somebody, Casey in California writes, my dog doesn't like these recordings.
He's barking and growling at all of them, except the one that said Holly, which caused him to run from the room whimpering with his ears back and his tail down.
And what's interesting about it is in this clip, you will hear Barbara reading the rules of governing convicts.
And she's on Rule 2, which is talking about how they must observe strict silence, which is one of the reasons we wonder why we didn't get a lot of EVP At this prison because the prisoners were not allowed to talk when they were there, especially the visitors.
Yes, and Barbara will actually, you can hear her on this recording explaining that rule that they must observe strict silence, especially when the visitors are there, must not make eye contact with a visitor.
So, you know, and after death, they're still going to think that way.
But anyway, what you're going to hear on this clip is Barbara's reading those rules, and you'll hear a voice whisper, we'll talk.
You'll find it on Coast to Coast AM with George Norton.
I really believe that my role is to inform people, to try to bring them the truth.
Yes, this is a program where we have some fun and sometimes it's very, very unusual and strange, but I want them to understand what's happening in the world around them, whether it's climate change, economy, war, and the reasons for all these things.
So that's what I think my mission is.
Now we take you back to the night of October 24th, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Art Bell All right, I should warn you, it is my belief as I look down the list that I have in front of me that these are going to get scarier.
I think they're going to get scarier based on what is said.
That's just my opinion and my warning to you if you're listening and kind of freaked out.
Kim in Sarasota, Florida says, were you or your guests aware that Sir Paul McCartney, in an interview on ABC's Good Morning America, said that he had a recording of his wife's voice on tape After she died?
In fact, it can be found at ABC's website.
No, I was most certainly not aware of that, Tim.
Thank you very much.
And Donna writes from Pueblo, Colorado, I've worked in corrections for 13 years, and I've seen two ghosts.
One we heard it rattled Folger's Adams keys.
The other slammed doors.
Pretty scary stuff on the block at 2 a.m. when it happens.
And, well, first of all, there was an older lady who used to come to the prison daily or weekly to bring the prisoners baked goods and just kind of talk with them.
And she was really friendly with them, and the prisoners liked her.
Well, this man had escaped from Rollins Prison and had somehow ended up at this lady's house, raped her, and left her for dead.
Well, I know, like, when Roger recorded that, and when he came across it when he was listening, because we listen to these voices with headphones, we listen to our tapes.
There's a lot of voices that we recorded at this prison, but they were so whispery and soft that we really couldn't use them to post on the website.
I would recommend anyone driving through Rollins, Wyoming, or even close by there, take the time to go to this prison because it is really an education.
It's very historical site.
And it just shows, it's exactly how it was when it was closed in, I think it was in 1978.
He went to the, well, he, fellow officers have gone to Ground Zero, and they've done a lot of photography.
And in that photography, they have had endless numbers of these orbs.
Oh, I've seen some of them.
Have you seen the photos?
We've got them on the website.
And he says they are the spirits of the departed.
So obviously, a number of my listeners are curious whether it has occurred to you to try to get to or as near to the site as you can with your recorders.
It has, but, and this is something we brought up on the show before, it's really a moral question on, you know, we may do it, but it would be maybe a decade from now.
After years, if you go to a place of really high activity, wherever it would be, a graveyard, your favorite graveyard, whatever, does the activity level, as time goes on, in your opinion, lessen?
Yes, I do believe that as we're going around on an investigation, we're talking about life after death, and I do believe that some of these spirits realize that they are dead and they move on or they resolve mentally whatever is keeping them.
Whoever that was absolutely didn't want you there.
And, you know, you've got to wonder, you've really got to wonder, if you didn't get out, if that had not been the end of your visit, haven't you ever been worried that something else will manifest?
I mean, if something is telling you that emotionally, to get the hell out and you don't get out.
Now you're free not to believe that and think this is all hokey and a bunch of baloney, but it's done with rigorous control, tapes that have never had anything recorded on them, normal tape recorders with an external microphone to prevent machine noise, that sort of thing.
Several tape recorders are carried by members of the GIS.
The two members we have here, Brennan Cook and Barbara Macbeth.
And we'll get back to them in just a moment in much more electronic voice phenomenon.
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Thank you.
Now we take you back to the night of October 24, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
The End Trudy in Sacramento, California brings up an interesting point.
She says, I don't feel these are good voice clips.
They just leave one confused about what's going on with the other side.
Research and communication is still going on from the other side, so she firmly believes that, but she doesn't like the tone of these recordings because she says it confuses people about the other side.
Well, we're not really here to, in my opinion, give you fluff.
I mean, we're here to give you what it is they get, and this is what they're getting.
I mean, if you listen to them, if anything, they argue the opposite argument that I do, and that apparently Trudy does too.
They argue that these are not really evil spirits at all.
However, I don't believe that.
Some of these sound pretty evil to me.
But, you know, it does, I suppose it could confuse somebody about the nature of death and of life or, you know, continued consciousness following death.
Yes, but Barbara, these recordings would indicate clearly that life over there on the other side could be as bad as the environment you were in, or Barbara, even worse.
That's why I say it's important to make your life as happy and as wonderful as possible because how you are in life is exactly how you're going to be in death.
think in life is how exactly how you're going to be when you die if you're a nasty rotten miserable person then you are destined to spend eternity as a nasty rotten so so It could be just exactly what you hear it.
I mean, that is a crashingly important understanding, I think, about the other side.
A lot of the voices that we get, you know, we don't realize that we're getting a voice at a time, and a lot of times We'll just talk right over it and we're not able to use it.
And in this clip, you're going to, and this is a topic you've addressed on the show before, you're going to hear Barbara say, I just can't get a handle on why there's so many children hanging around.
So, do you believe that these spirits have indeed reverted to their childhoods, or do you just think it's easier for children to speak across the veil?
I do think that although there's so much that has to be learned, and as our technology advances, we're, well, we think we know so much now, and then as our technology advances, we find out that what we think we know, we really don't, and we have to reanalyze everything that we thought we knew.
How many voices has it ever happened to you that a voice opens up with a virtual entire paragraph or a whole thought that exceeds, you know, two or three or four words or even a short sentence, but something really long?
I think that the I Killed You, You Laughed at Me, real cute laugh, and another time at a place called Fort Douglas in Salt Lake City, Utah, where a man, we recorded a man that said, I ain't ever seen anything that can compare to this.
I think those are probably two of the longest ones that we've ever recorded.
What percentage of the time, you two, and I hate to pummel you with so many questions, but what percentage of the time is whatever is said responsive to something that you have said or thought versus whatever said having nothing to do or no context with regard to what you said?
Therefore, would it be reasonable for people in my audience to conclude they would have at least a fair chance in an old Family home of recording their dead parents or grandparents or great-grandparents.
If they've experienced activity there, yes, I would say so.
Because even if the adult, I've had people tell me that their children will be the ones that notice things a lot, where the parents will blow it off and not be aware of things, where the children will be aware of things.
All right, well, this one was recorded by Barbara in a, it's called the Union Station.
It's an old train station here in August, Utah.
And it's sort of a museum right now.
And Barbara and her husband, and I believe one other person, had gone and conducted this investigation at this station, which we've since done more investigations there.
But when they were inside of the station, they had walked past a police substation that was inside of the building.
And when they were walking past the door, policeman had opened the door, come out, and I guess had asked, what are you doing here?
Or what are you doing in here?
But this woman's voice comes in before the cop's voice even comes in and says, what are you doing in here?
Well, first of all, I'm not aware of a lot of people who have gotten results with a digital recorder.
And the other problem with that is the people that I am aware of that have got results with it run into a problem of what's called digital static or static discharge, basically.
I can tell you why digital recording doesn't work.
I know why it doesn't work.
And after the break, I'll tell you and everybody else.
I'm Art Bell.
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Once again, back to electronic voice phenomena, and you two are back on the air.
I want to answer that question now.
I'm firmly convinced of this, and we'll see if others agree with me or not, but here's the deal.
I am convinced that voices and or apparitions or anything else from the other side, as has been proven through studies at all kinds of major universities, have connected with them high magnetometer readings,
meaning there is some sort of electromagnetic or magnetic power in the area of these emissions or visions.
Now, that's been recorded a zillion times.
That would indicate to me that these are electromagnetic beings or electromagnetic communications, however you want to think of it.
It would be unlikely to be impressed in a digital format.
However, given audio recording tape and the magnetic method used in recording, it would be much more likely to appear, if not almost solely to appear, on things done on magnetic medium.
In fact, tonight I came up with a theory on this that, you know, it could possibly be somebody that used to live here, and he was walking in the door expecting to see somebody named George.
I feel like when people like what we do, there's so many ghost hunters and ghost investigator groups out there.
And I feel like when we go out and we are searching for these things in earnest and really trying to document this kind of thing, I think that it becomes available.
Well, as many of you as you say there are, I would say you still represent only one ten-thousandth of one percent or less of the population.
In other words, there aren't really that many of you.
It may be a growing hobby, but I can assure you that the majority of my audience, even as we might encourage them to do so, will not go out and do this for various reasons.
They're scared of it.
They think it's perhaps voices that they ought not be hearing, messages they ought not be getting, and tampering they ought not be doing.
There are people who, a lot, even most, who might feel that way.
So I'm glad we've got you guys, because without it, we wouldn't hear this stuff.
Most of the time, owner of a location or manager is aware that there is some kind of activity and they're interested in finding out about it themselves.
The times that we have been refused has been when they are afraid of it being known like a business.
They're afraid that it'll hurt their business.
I had one location that it's an old mansion and they use it now for dance rehearsals and things.
And there's a lot of children that go there to perform dance.
And they don't want the children to be afraid if it got out that there is a ghost there.
In other words, it seems if you're old and tired and ill and sick and you die, you wouldn't think you would remain in that same state, nor if you were not yet mature, you would not be allowed to be simply because you passed away.
I always, until I started doing the recording of EVP, my idea was always that someone would come and get little children and take them where they should be.
And I've had to reassess my whole thing of thinking.
So then perhaps you just wake up one day and everything's normal, more or less, until you begin to realize that you're not really part of this world anymore.
And that would come in perhaps subtle, mostly subtle ways, I suppose.
Most of them, you know, what I've noticed about the children is, and I think it's what shocks you and saddens you in a way, they sound just as inquisitive and interested in what's going on, but particularly inquisitive as little children do in life.
Well, I believe there are such things, and I don't have all the answers either.
I'm a Christian woman, and I'm trying, you know, but I'm open-minded.
I'm not closed-minded to the fact that what is, is.
I think it all kind of works together for the same in the end that we'll see someday.
And I just have to place my hope that the scriptures are right when they say that, you know, if we have a good spirit and believe, like you were saying, how you live and how your mindset is, and if it's placed on God and everything, that we will not suffer the same torments that we did here on earth.
Really what we want from all of this, you know, is for one, and thanks to you, to be able to present this to people and show them that this is a real phenomenon that's taking place.
And like we said before, for the people who think this is something they want to do, for them to go out and try it.
And other than that, you know, it's really a re-education thing because people automatically have a preconceived notion of what a ghost is thanks to Hollywood.
And, you know, it isn't that.
Not all hauntings take place on Indian burial grounds.
Not everything's a poltergeist.
You know, it's really quite different from what Hollywood portrays it as.
So really, all we want is for people to listen to these voices, check out our website.
We will never charge for anything, never charge for access to the website.
But there's other times we get people to email us and they tell us they don't know how to send a WAV file, and so we'll have to step-by-step go through it with them to tell them how to do it, and then by that time they can actually send us one.