Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM episode explores radical, often unfeasible counterterrorism strategies amid anthrax threats and the Afghanistan war, including nuclear strikes on suspected nations, DNA-targeted diseases, LSD-laced food/water, and psychological tactics like fake bin Laden messages or 72 "vestal virgins." Callers propose contaminating wells with red algae, deploying menopausal women with gas masks, or using sound waves to provoke Taliban collapse. Bell acknowledges the Pentagon’s October 25th call for civilian ideas but questions morality and practicality, concluding that while unconventional methods spark debate, religious motivations and financial backers—like oil dependency—may hold deeper keys to ending terrorism than extreme provocation. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, the night featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 26, 2001, from the hot desert and the great American Southwest.
I bid you all good evening, and good morning and good afternoon across all time zones on Earth.
This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell, and it's going to be a special night tonight, Friday night, Saturday morning.
We're going to have only one topic all night long, and it's a real doozy.
We'll get to that shortly.
It's the out-of-the-box thinking topic, right?
That's coming up.
It'll be a doozy.
And there's plenty of news to bolster reason for this kind of thinking.
New news.
The U.S. Supreme Court is closed for anthrax testing.
So now even the U.S. Supreme Court, it's getting to, you know, it's getting everywhere in government.
Everywhere.
Trace amounts of anthrax have now been discovered in the offices of three congressmen in a House office building.
So, Supreme Court, the government generally, even the CIA, I guess you've heard about that, right?
Anthrax coming at us from all over the place.
Meanwhile, the war goes on.
U.S. warplanes mistakenly bombed Red Cross warehouses in a nearby residential area in Kabul for the second time in a month.
That was our Pentagon acknowledging that, FAA teens.
The ruling Taliban on Friday captured and probably lopped off the head of a former guerrilla leader who slipped into Afghanistan to try to lure tribal leaders away from that regime.
In other words, he rather fancied himself as the next ruler going there to build a coalition, but not without his head.
I actually don't know that he's been beheaded, but he's definitely dead.
A top health official getting back to the anthrax official raised the possibility today there may be a second anthrax-laced letter to the Washington area somewhere after a State Department worker fell ill with the disease.
How the employee got inhaled anthrax remains a mystery.
The Postal Workers Union is talking about shutting down mail processing plants, stopping the mail, virtually stopping the mail in the affected cities, you know, New York, Washington.
That would be incredible.
You can't stop the mail to New York, can you?
Or can you?
I really don't know, but that's an incredible thing to contemplate.
I certainly understand the postal workers' dilemma.
You know, they're handling perhaps something lethal.
So you can understand their dilemma, but wow, to stop the mail to New York and Washington.
Wow, that would really be something.
And now the suits at the post office have said it's an insane idea.
I don't know.
I can see both sides of the argument.
I can see the postal workers' argument for sure.
And I can see our government side.
If you stopped the mail to New York and Washington, what would happen to our economy?
Well, it would be, I'm sure, would be wounded, don't you think?
Well, listen, Tuesday night, Tuesday night of this week, I had a guest on and we got into an animated conversation about the probable wider war that we're about to be engaged in, one that could include virtually a war between Islam and the Western world.
It could surely go there.
No question about it.
And my guest was saying that we need to think out of the box, really out of the box.
Now, what does that mean?
That means unusual, innovative, wild, even crazy ideas about how we can win this war.
Because right now, if you really look at it objectively, we're bombing and we're looking for Osama.
But I'm not sure how much we, well, to some great degree, we've bounced the rubble around over there.
And it's going to be a long war.
It's going to be a hard war.
Nobody says this is easy, and there are objective people who would view the other side as winning right now.
Doesn't mean we're ultimately going to lose, because we are innovative people.
We are bright people.
Now, you're not going to believe this.
After I decided, I instantly, at that very time, I knew that this was going to be an incredibly good, worthwhile, probably fun topic.
And you just never know, we might come up with some really valuable idea.
Well, lo and behold, Thursday, October 25th, unbelievably, the following story was sent out by Reuters News Dateline, Washington.
The Pentagon cast a wide net on Thursday for bright ideas on thwarting terrorism, seeking to pick the brains of just about everyone From tinkerers in their garages to big corporations worldwide.
Defense Department said it was seeking help in defeating difficult targets, conducting protracted operations in remote areas, and developing countermeasures to weapons of mass destruction.
And it goes on and on.
The goal is to find concepts that could be developed and fielded in 12 to 18 months, short time, right?
Much faster than normal Pentagon purchasing and deployment timetables.
In other words, usually they've got tons of paperwork.
They've got bureaucracy tenfold and they can't get anything done quickly.
But they're saying, hey, listen, we're ready to cut the red tape.
And if we get a good idea, let's rock.
You know, like getting a drug through tomorrow.
U.S. officials from President Bush on down have said they fear more terrorist attacks after the September 11th hijack attacks that killed more than 5,000 at the World Trade Center, Pentagon, and of course the crashed airline flight in Pennsylvania.
Now, a little further down in the story, and we have linked to the ABC News Reuters story, so you can read this for yourself.
A little further down in the story, it says, The beauty of it is you can get a broad range of people thinking out of the box.
Often you'll get ideas from inventors as well as big defense contractors.
Well, so there you have it.
I don't know whether I should feel flattered, spied upon, or just like a person who's had a very synchronous thing occur to him.
I will choose to believe that they may have heard us contemplating the whole out-of-the-box thing.
And they decided, well, hey, you know, that's a pretty good idea.
Why don't we encourage it?
So even the Pentagon wants it.
And tonight we shall give it to them.
Encouraging my listeners, who for the most part are out of the box a little bit anyway, just like me, to actually think even further out of the box is a little like lighting a stick of dynamite.
Let your mind, let your body drift out of the box.
Contemplate a way that America can quickly, cleanly win this war with no major after-effects.
In other words, a best idea today wins.
In fact, best idea throughout the show tonight just might get implemented, just might get carried forth.
So it is a great power indeed you have tonight.
Go ahead.
Be my guest.
Get weird.
Think about what we can do.
How we can get bin Laden.
How we can not cause all of Islam to go to war against us.
How we can end terrorism.
All of that.
If you have a strange and just even a weird idea, lay it on us.
That's what we're up to tonight.
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A mission to an asteroid is exactly the kind of thing that our nation's space program ought to be focused on.
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Now we take you back to the night of October 26th, 2001, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
This is Mark from Suffering, New York, by the way.
I was thinking about maybe how about having some type of world election and just try to have a vote to decide that maybe we should nuke them all and give a certain amount of time to either, you know, come on our side or, you know, it's a terrible thing, would be Millions of people, but maybe we should have to do something like that.
I mean, I don't want to make it into a religious thing, you know, if there's more Christians or more Islam or whatever, but just and see if the world can go on.
Listened to you for three years plus, and quick and fast, I have a good humor thing.
I think we need to put out movies and putting our nasty one in the movies doing stupid things, falling on his face, saying something that he believes in, and have manure either spilled against him or been long in your.
The point is, to do this, I think, humor after humor movie, just flick, dump things on where he is living to prove the point that he is really stupid in the eyes of everyone else who has to vitamin.
Nuke all the countries even suspected of terrorism, but he wanted before he did that to hold a vote.
All countries in the world could vote.
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Yeah, yeah, nice.
Well, sounds great, but on paper, it's on and verbally, but I don't think it would do the job against the way that he thinks, which is quite a bit different than what normal people would think.
Well, if if we get a portion of the population of each religion, and there's a large portion of all religions who are terrified of this personally, pray for peace in whichever form that wave goes out there.
And I alluded to the following email the other day when we began talking about this.
It was sent by Diane, who says, Art, please share this with Ramona.
It's entitled, Go Girls Go by Diane.
And here's her idea.
Take, well, you know how the Taliban feels about women, right?
Take all American women who are within five years of menopause.
Train us for a few weeks.
Outfit us with automatic weapons, grenades, gas masks, moisturizer, SPF-15, Crozac hormones, chocolate, and canned tuna.
Drop us parachuted, preferably, across the landscape of Afghanistan and let us do what comes naturally.
Think about it, Art.
Our anger quotient alone, even with just doing standard stuff like grocery shopping and paying bills, is formidable enough even to make armed men in turbans tremble.
We've had our children.
We would gladly suffer or die to protect them and their future.
We'd like to get away from our husbands if they haven't left already.
And for those of us who are single, the prospect of finding a really good man with whom to share life is about as likely as being struck by lightning.
We have nothing to lose.
We've survived the water diet, the protein diet, the carbohydrate diet, and the grapefruit diet.
Been in gyms and saunas across America, never lost a pound.
We can easily survive months in the hostile terrain of Afghanistan with no food at all.
We've spent years tracking down our husbands or lovers who ignore us in bars, hardware stores, or sporting events.
Finding bin Laden in some cave will be no problem.
Uniting all the warring tribes of Afghanistan in a new government?
Oh, please.
We've planned the seating arrangements for in-laws and extended families at Thanksgiving dinner for years.
We understand tribal warfare.
Between us, we've divorced enough husbands to know every trick there is for how they hide, launder, and or cover up bank accounts and money sources.
We know how to find that money, and we know how to seize it with or without the government's help.
Let us go and fight.
The Taliban hates women.
Imagine their terror as we crawl like ants with hot flashes over their godforsaken terrain.
I'm going to write my congressman, and you should too.
Go, girls, go.
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Now we take you back to the night of October 26, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
This may be stupid, but in addition to bringing the terrorists to justice, it seems obvious to me that any border agreement between Islam and the Jewish people over there is pretty slim.
And with this program, we could start turning, you know, the hearts and the minds of all people to peace and away from the hatred that we see building in us and in all the other nations but how do you get around the fact that uh 5,000 Americans have been murdered?
I mean, surely that cries out for some kind of justice.
I'm all for peace.
unidentified
Indeed.
This terrorist attack is a tragedy, but if we lower ourselves to become exactly what we see in those miserable people who are filled with just as much hatred, they willingly gave their lives in order to take the lives of others, are we any better than they?
It may come down, you know, to a virtual urban warfare.
If the Taliban is hiding the worst of them among their civilian population, which is probable, it's going to be one hell of a job to go in there and door-to-door find them almost impossible.
Guerrilla warfare at its worst.
So if any of you can come up with an out-of-the-box idea, that would be a Canadian out-of-the-box, right?
Idea that would avoid that kind of warfare, which would be very lossy in terms of human lives for us, that would be good.
No, but I just thought I'd mention me your out-of-the-box eye.
I have, for the last, say, 12 years, I've been doing remote viewing before I even knew what it was.
And I don't do it.
put something under hypnosis which if you're at this psychic they can play really can remotely want it once they're under and I don't understand where the I What is your idea, that they use remote view?
They use remote view and get a map and say, now, where is he?
That's good for defense, but how does that help us win the war?
unidentified
Well, we've got to first protect our own people first.
Maybe by shutting down the borders, starting to protect our waterways, protect our airports, protect our electrical grids, everything that's in place.
We need to start really concentrating on protecting our own people and then leave the war that's outside of our country go on and we go over there and we do what we have to, but institute the draft only for civil defense.
But I think if we keep concentrating over there, just like what they're doing with the anthrax, if it's terrorism that's doing the anthrax and they're shutting down postal services and things like that, we need to really start looking at concentrating on protecting our people because we'll lose the war by trying to win the war over there.
Now, of course, the administration is doing a lot in the homeland defense area.
And there's a lot of that going on right now.
So we sort of are doing that, and I suppose we can do more and we can do it more efficiently, right?
And that will be part of winning the war.
He's right, if we can make the American people comfortable so they feel relatively safe, then the other side is defeated in the sense that they have not met their objectives of terrorizing and disrupting us.
Okay, if all America, everybody in America, would take a day off from work, say, like on a Wednesday or something, everybody in America, and the employers were to pay them for taking off of work, that way they would show up.
Everybody would pray to God and repent of what we have done to him, how we betrayed him.
And I think we'd be back under his umbrella, his protection, and he would solve our problems.
By telling them that they will go directly to paradise without go, where there might be 70 virgins or some such.
unidentified
Right, right, and all of the different things we've heard.
Now, I guess what I'm thinking about here is, you know, it's kind of like as opposed to treating the disease, which unfortunately when we're just trying to bomb and trying to find him in the middle of those mountains, that's almost like what we're doing.
I mean, we're treating the symptoms and not the disease.
What if we really seriously sit down with Muslim clerics throughout the world and we get the Pope or whoever, you know, the different religious leaders to sit down.
I tell you, I think my last caller was really on to something.
Now, from my point of view, this is something you would want to do after you killed Bin Laden and company.
But at that point, it might be a really good idea to have a virtual summit, a real summit between Islam and Christianity and try and settle the differences so that we can work together in the future in the world without having an all-out war.
now sounds like a really really really good idea first a triple a idea tonight and definitely worthy because that's what seems to cause all these wars right religion so if they could get together it might be nice backdoor way to do it anyway and put the religion out front of the politicians for a change and they might come up with something that hasn't been come up with nobody's come up with before that's a really
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Now we take you back to the night of October 26th, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
And I guess we could sift through your millions of listeners until we find at least one individual with viable superpowers that we could use to defeat bin Laden or at least protect ourselves civilly.
It's not a really, you know, it's, you know, I was thinking out of the box.
Well, for one thing, we could help them protect people on the front lines in Afghanistan.
Or, say, if there were another, you know, similar terrorist attack, anyone who could fly or have super strength or anything like that could have, you know, helped to at least prevent some of the things that happened.
And, you know, it's not the most serious suggestion you've heard all night, but, you know, I thought it was an idea that it would at least make an interesting show topic.
Many will say that they have the power to do this or that, but then again, you could argue, well, if they do, then why aren't they doing it now?
Well, maybe they don't want to use their power for that.
So, I don't know.
There may be people walking around like that out there.
If a human being had a truly superior, important power, the odds are, you know, they would not tell other human beings about it.
Because surely somebody would then want to dissect them and find out exactly why they can do what they can do, or worse yet, even kill them because of envy or, you know, whatever.
So then you could for example personally give the order to Nuke Kabul and any other city of size in Afghanistan virtually wiping out the whole country.
Now that one not quite as all-encompassing as the first, which would be to nuke all the countries even suspected.
It would certainly have a quarterizing effect.
However, we might be looked at in the world as perhaps overreacting to use thermonuclear devices and just take everybody out.
I don't think they're going to do that, but I mean, you can suggest it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi there, Art.
Hello.
As I suggested during your break, I think it would be really productive for your network to look over the list of guests that you've had over the years.
And since you've had everybody on from a scientist to an Evelyn Paguini, I think it would be very productive to get them together either by phone, video conferencing, or whatever, because you've had on some very brilliant people.
And I think our country has a lot of resources.
And as one of your resources, if you could pull a bunch of people together who would like to participate, perhaps they can bang a few ideas off the wall for a few hours and then submit it to, I don't know, the White House, the FBI, or the CIA.
Oh, listen, Evelyn Tyglini alone would probably raise the turban right off their heads.
unidentified
Yes, but I'm also thinking on the other end, too, you've had a lot of religious leaders.
You've had scientists who are very inventive.
Oh, there's just so many people, and I've listened to you for about 10 years more.
And I think perhaps even, you know, just to get some people together to get something that would work, because obviously the government is looking for people who have some ideas, and perhaps some of the scientists that you've had on would have some ideas about what I've got it.
You clear everybody out, the opposition, the men, women, children, all of them.
Then you get the women and children from the rest of Afghanistan out of where they are and up to northern Afghanistan and basically bomb everybody else.
unidentified
Correct.
Just wipe the rest of it all out and then have that summit meeting with the religious leaders.
Well, that's the protocol generally on a sinking ship, right?
So don't you think that the men in the rest of Afghanistan would know that their ship is about to metaphorically sink?
First time, color line, you are on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, sir.
Yes.
Some people may think this idea might be a little cruel and humane, but every day across the United States we euthanize a bunch of dogs and other small animals in our humane shelters.
I was just thinking if we could put them to use to our country somehow, rather than euthanizing them, possibly sending them over there with satchel charges on them, letting them search out the caves.
Would you blow them up all at once, or would you track them individually, and then once each dog or cat got into a cave, blow them up then?
unidentified
Well, just some type of triggering device, because I imagine once they got in a cave, the Taliban or whatever would try and dispose of the animals, and if that triggering device was detonated upon their demise, it would take care of it then, or when the satchel charge removed from their body, would detonate.
I appreciate the call, and it does make a mental picture.
Parachuting thousands of satchel-charged dogs and cats into Afghanistan.
Where they would seek shelter from the weather, very likely in caves, and where you could then by remote control, perhaps by satellite, you could certainly do it that way, blow up these little doggies and kitties and, presumably, terrorists at the same time.
I think caves will get you in the high 50s, but it'll do that winter or summer.
Which is why I suppose they're favored there.
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If all these Taliban are in the caves and they light a fire to keep warm, I think what we're going to use is the heat-sensitive and infrared technology that we have.
A general, you know, they were saying, well, winter's coming and you can't really conduct operations.
The general said, oh, contraire.
And one of the things that he pointed out was exactly what you just said, that they can use all of their heat sensing equipment in the winter, and it's incredibly effective then.
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Well, I think that's the way it's going to go down.
And this is a real war, and we've got billions of dollars worth of technology over there, and this is for real.
And I think, you know, all the other ideas are, you know, sort of not really with it, and this is the way it's going to go down.
In fact, it will enhance our abilities in many ways.
We have incredible heat sensing equipment.
I know.
I've worked with some of it.
I've played with some of it.
I got in a Blackhawk and played with some of it, and I can tell you, it's incredible what they...
In other words, when you see a plane taking off, or you see a human being at a very great distance with heat-sensing equipment, and I saw what a blackhawk could do.
And so it could be a very, very rough winter for the terrorists if they're hiding in caves, because you've got to come out of a cave every now and then.
And if we had a lot of heat fencing equipment when they came out, we would find them.
So our military does not exactly fear the winter.
In some ways, they look forward to it, and this caller is exactly right.
But that's how you might root them out.
That's one of the things they wanted to know.
Think out of the box.
That's your challenge tonight.
How do we win the war?
And if you want to get way out of the box, some of you already have, that's what we want.
This is Coast to Coast AM from the High Desert.
I'm Art Bell.
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And while we're, you know, the caves and stuff, get a start picking up the trace evidence there and use DNA to find out which one matches the part of the kid.
And then just figure out a way to get a simple or one disease just to attack that one person.
He's talking about discovering the specific trait or some specific DNA trait to Osama bin Laden, and then dispatching a disease with that specific trait.
I think since this is a religious war and everybody's debating, you know, who's going to dominate the thousand years of peace or the thousand years of war.
Yeah, so going to the root of it all, I think we need to have that summit where they discuss the whole of the earth is holy ground and that no one has a right to partition off any little piece and say this is holier than.
I'm really kind of for that idea myself, but only after we dispatch those immediately responsible for what happened.
unidentified
Well, I think the greatest dispatching would happen when we understand there's no conflict in divine mind, and I think that would obliterate all that needs to be gone pretty quickly.
Yeah, I think so, because there's so much in every religion that is the same.
And I think ultimately when you really simplify with all the heads of state and religion, there's one great person that's really considered the one divine God and not just little bitty aspects of the divine, you know, and all the different, I don't know, statuary and in the long run, honey, we are not going to beat a religion the way we beat communism.
Well, every time you're on the air, you have the same power that you have when we all concentrate on something because you're putting ideas out there to all these people.
All right, well, I am registering your idea almost without comments.
I just that's not me.
That's just not me.
Me, I'd be more likely to write some nasty little phrase on a bomb that would be dropped, and I understand that our people have been doing that over there, by the way.
You know, this one's for George, that kind of thing.
But I'll try.
I'm really going to try and not be too judgmental here.
But the sending of love, you know, the people have just killed 5,000 of our citizens.
You actually, in a lot of ways, Peoria would be a target.
You know, it really would, because even the terrorists probably know.
They know a lot about America.
I mean, they've had people over here training and stuff, right?
So they've heard does it play in Peoria.
They've heard that.
They've heard that phrase.
And so they've got to know that if they were to hit something as, you know, apple pie and mother and so forth as Peoria, that they would really affect the psyche of all Americans, and they would.
So I wouldn't.
I mean, for now, you're an island of peace, but it would be a stab to the heart of the heartland.
Like if you did a wag the dog thing and put an artificial bin Laden in a video or have him give out a message, then that would kind of flush out the real bin Laden.
You know, he would have to make some contact in order to refute whatever was put out there.
Maybe something saying, hey, the bin Laden that's in Afghanistan is a fate put in there by the CIA, you know, to create an artificial war between the Muslims and the Christians.
Get an exact, I mean, our government could do this, an exact bin Laden.
Just put him, you know, prop him up.
We've got lots of Hollywood people.
We put a cave there, and we, you know, we also make up somebody to look like his exact lieutenant sitting by his side, as we always see him when he's broadcast, and have him say, look, the bombing is horrible.
We are defeated.
Lay down your arms.
Now, that would bring the real bin Laden out real quick, wouldn't it?
unidentified
Well, he'd be getting his video camera out in seconds on that.
Can you imagine how a megalomaniac, as he suggested, like Bin Laden, would react to such a message that would be indistinguishable from the real Bin Laden?
He'd be out there.
We'd see him with one of our satellites out there in front of a video camera protesting like crazy.
I do honestly wonder how they would react to something like that, because it's certainly fighting dirty, but in understanding what they are afraid of and what would cause psychological stress to them as they have caused to us, that's not bad in the scheme of things.
unidentified
Yeah, we have to, instead of being the hunted, we have to become the hunters and turn, you know, turn the family.
Cruise missiles with big explosive for the family members of those who ran into the World Trade Towers, sprinkled with pig's blood, so they will not go to paradise, which is what we believe they believe.
Would it be so wrong to, to in effect, psychologically torture them as they are psychologically torturing us?
I understand what a lot of you would say about killing family members.
The Russians did it.
It's the kind of thing we don't do.
But you can't deny it might be effective.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, this is Orland from Fraser Park Southern California.
As the refugees came across, where you could weed the Taliban out, and that would be a short-term solution, and the long-term would be you put all of these in refugee camps.
We're feeding them anyway.
So we put a thing on there where you want a ration of food, you're going to go to school.
And we give them a comprehensive education and show them what the rest of the world is like.
If you don't have food, you're facing a very serious situation very quickly.
All right, sir.
Thank you.
Okay, another good one.
I'm Mark Bell.
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We're thinking outside the box all night long tonight, and we await your idea.
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Now we look at sending humans to an asteroid.
Smart idea?
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And now we take you back to the night of October 26th, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
All right, back into the night of ideas we go, asking you to think outside the box, the question, the challenge is to think outside the box and come up with a way, perhaps unconventional way, that we win this war.
And even the Pentagon has said in an article a couple of days After I had this idea, or my guest did, or however we got it, that they want you to think outside the box.
Come up with what might be a crazy idea, and they just might implement it, cutting through all the red tape and getting it done very quickly.
They are prepared to do, well, obviously, they see the way it's going to go.
If we have to proceed conventionally, it's going to cost lives.
If we can come up with a really good idea to get the job done quickly with little loss of life, they're all for it, and I'm glad to hear it.
Here we go.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Yeah, this is James in Largo, Florida, outside of Tampa.
I'm just giving kind of a background for what I'm going to say here.
Okay, what if we use a satellite or something of the sort to kind of project like a translucency or a deity in the general vicinity of where the Taliban or al-Qaeda members of Osama bin Laden are suspected to be residing in?
In order to receive direct instructions from Allah.
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Yes.
Yes.
You know, if there's an important message, it's an imperative that you meet me at this location and I'll have a message for you.
It's a dawah, right?
I got you.
Yeah.
And once they're there, we wipe them out with maybe also using a satellite, I think you were talking about that a few days ago, or just a cruise missile, something like that.
And that would also send a message to the rest of the area.
They are certainly doing that with us, aren't they?
They are terrorizing us.
And so I am not beyond terrorizing them.
I would rather restrict my terror to those responsible or those extremists, but the right kind of message in the sky would go directly to that group because they're the ones who would grasp it, right?
Well, you had him on probably a year and a half or more ago.
And when he was on, I don't know if you realized art, but he actually did predict that the White House was going to be bombed, and he said it would miss.
And you said, oh, my God, that can't be true.
And, you know, he was telling me that all the psychics and everybody over there keep saying nobody's predicted any of this would have happened.
They've got to get pretty close to the luggage before they can detect the scent.
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The explosives, yes, but you could also do it to have them hunt out specific people, and for that all you'd need is like, you know, get an article of their clothing or something.
I think that we ought to find the general area where he's at and plant three nukes around his area.
And with as unstable as Atlanta's over there, once they come running out like ants, our aircraft could just spray the rest of them down that ain't buried.
This is a thinking out-of-the-box exercise for everybody.
I'm Art Bell.
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Yeah, I mean, it would definitely freak them out if they're living in a cave there, you know, along with their pals, having a bowl of yogurt, when suddenly your buddy sitting next to you's turbine blows off.
Tang, and some good clear water, and let them drink it and show them how good it is.
And tell them the next time any anthrax or any, give them 48 hours, anything, if we can get a bad toenail over here or something, we're going to fly over with some not crop dusters.
But, you know, those flames that fight the forest fires on the west coast loaded with tang, and some of them are going to be loaded laced with freeze-died pig blood.
I'm not sure that Tang has a big market there, nor that they have much of a taste for Tang.
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Yeah, but I know let them see what I was trying to say.
It could be something else.
It could be the lynch oranges.
Let them drink it, the clergy, so they would know how it would feel when they drank it.
You know, pure now, not nothing with anything in it.
But say, next time you do something to us, you know, they don't care about this life, right?
They want to go to Allah.
And so you say, but if you do anything to us, we're going to come over with these, like the ones that put out the forest fire, say there's some firemen that are very unhappy what y'all did to us in New York, and they're willing to come over there and fly with these, not crop dusters, but where they drop these buckets of some kind of that they could smell it and inhale it.
How would you get rid of it, though, after you were done?
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Well, it will wash out.
But the thing is that for about three or four years, and I'm not talking about one, I'm talking about, you know, put down three or four hundred of these bunker busters, send them down 1,000 feet into the ground.
Maybe if we took my last caller's idea about Tang and simply turned all of their water, including their well water, into Tang, they would throw up their hands and run out.
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Well, that's possible.
Well, the other idea is for Bush to get on the horn and bottom line say, look, Afghanistan, if we go to war with you, there will be no Afghanistan when we're done.
Well, I've seen a lot of pictures Now, of Afghanistan.
That's one country I've never been to, but I've seen a lot of pictures.
And from what I've seen, a lot of times I don't think Americans would exactly want to go over there.
I mean, frankly, when they show scenes of Kandahar and other areas, prior to our bombing, before we began bombing, it looked like it had been bombed already.
So I was kind of wondering mostly what we're dropping our bombs on, short of tanks and, you know.
Colonize, maybe go back to the old days, like in, what was it, the 1800s, wasn't it, when they had the land rushes and races and grabs, and you could get yourself a piece of land and a mule and whatever.
And sort of build, maybe we could build apartments.
The Israelis are good at doing that, building on new land.
We could enlist the Israelis to help us, and they would simply build Afghanistan into a bedroom community.
Pork bellies are a very volatile thing to jump into, right?
A lot of people have lost or made a lot of money in pork bellies.
And if the Defense Department decided to go with the pork belly offensive, boy, some people could make some money in the market if they knew about that one.
And having electronic ATM type deals where you put in one envelope at a time, use a card, and you're identified, and your picture is taken, and they know who you are.
And all you need, turbine generators, fuel supply, oscillator, and power amplifiers.
Now these power amplifiers would have to put out somewhere I figured in the neighborhood of 100,000 watts.
Yes.
The oscillator is tuned in at about 57 cycles, 56 to 57 cycles.
A real irritating.
The human body resonates at that frequency.
Yes.
Have a directional horn, sound horned out there, and you could either turn it up, and you'll see little puffs of red goo out there in front of it, or for your peace bubba's, turn it down low enough that you could go up there and...
Yeah.
I see.
And then at a lesser setting?
Well, a lesser setting.
You'd probably go up there and find them staring at the stars and do what you will.
Turn them into slaves, send them around to all the hog farmers, and let them use them as workhand.
Now, basically, you're suggesting that we microwave people.
No.
It is a sound deal.
Now, I know they've experimented with it.
The human body resonates at 57 to 56 cycles, and that's the sound that you put out.
I've heard that that would actually cause people to get in fights, cause people to socially disintegrate, all that kind of thing.
They could probably even end up fighting amongst themselves.
But you could do it through safe distance, remote control it, and as one of your listeners said, also use infrared, seek them out, get up to a cave, put that sound into the cave, no problem.
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You certainly have seized the idea, and you've run with it very well, I must say.
We are thinking out of the box, something my audience obviously does very well at.
Question is, how do we win this war?
More in a moment.
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We've got Robert in Houston.
There's this lady that I've seen about four or five times in my lifetime.
She's tall and skinny.
She had on some tight blue jeans, some Indian moccasins.
She had on a rainbow-striped poncho and a little flop hat.
Um, the thing that I was thinking is the simplest thing has been overlooked.
I believe that we have to show conviction and show the people that we're right, and we have to send ground forces in.
Obviously, nuclear, if we try to be, if we really try to determine what's going to do this, I don't believe that the nuclear is going to be the solution, although that would be the easiest for us because of the lies that it would cost.
We know that the Taliban, the top leaders, Al-Qaeda, probably even bin Laden is with the people.
They're mixing in in the cities with people and that's going to mean urban warfare.
That's going to be one bad fight.
If you've got to go in and go house to house and dig these people out, you're going to lose a lot of men.
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Very true, but at the same time, the thing that worries me the most is the message that we're sending children and the message that you send the world.
It's unfortunate what has happened.
I believe that we've gotten to a point where we have to say, this is what we believe.
Not only do we feel that we're right, but we're willing to put our lives on the line to show that they were right.
Well, I think that is exactly what our president said.
And in fact, I think that's what we're doing.
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I sure hope so.
I mean, my only worry is, I'm 29 years old, and I would like to get involved, but I'm afraid that it'll be a Vietnam-type thing where there's a restricted warfare where you can't fly over here or you can't do that because they're worried about the media saying that they hit a Red Cross tower.
If we put a General Patton-type leader in that area, I don't think America's going to have any problem.
We were, in a way, it was really, really, really fortunate for us, and not for you certainly, but we were so backed up with mail.
You know, we get bins and bins and bins of mail.
And we were so backed up that when we finally decided that we're not going to open mail, we've got, oh, God, we've got a lot of mail sitting there.
So it's horrible.
I'm sorry.
It's just, I don't know what you do.
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Okay.
Here we go.
Let me see.
The one thing the area has that is the Far East in that region of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and the other stands that I can't remember has an abundance is gypsum, limestone, shale.
And I think what we ought to do is pull an Emperor Hadrian on them.
And in return for government subsidies and aid and whatnot, we enlist the contractors, put millions of people to work, employ millions of people, and wall them in where we can.
I think we could put the Pope, Jerry Falwell, the Dalai Lama, and Bin Laden together in a Texas death match, and the winner would psychically and will the others into submission.
And if you put locator beacons, and we've got plenty of satellites that could tell you where that bat is going, the signal might disappear at that point, but it would be obvious, or at least highly probable, that they went into a cave.
They could have these people believing it up and down.
Yes, sir.
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And also, the second phase would be to put pictures, anything that would be done with pictures of a Lama, Osama bin Laden, made up like a woman with the wigs surrounded by attractive men, and that because homosexuality there is punishable by death.
Maybe with the line you're on, you're going to like this.
You maybe perhaps have not heard about this.
It's going around on the internet.
It is suggested that we find Osama bin Laden.
Not an easy job, but when we find him, instead of killing him or bringing him back here for international trial and jail, that we snap him up, whisk him out of the country, put him through a fast sex change operation, and drop him back into country.
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Yeah, I've heard that on your show.
I'm not against that, but my point, basically what my point is, that with these flyers, things start to work on people's minds like a bliss creep.
Better yet, sir, how about Kalishnikovs that blow up?
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Exactly.
Exactly.
And then another idea I had was maybe would be to implant them, like capture them, implant them with a tracking device, then turn them loose or let them, quote-unquote, escape, and you can at least root out where they're headed back to.
What we should do is instead of dropping bobs and food on them, we should drop Playboys and Penthouse, Budweiser and Jack Daniels, and take all the dope that we got in all the cop shops around the country and subvert the youth of their country.
All right, we'll particularly bear that one in mind.
I don't think you can go from the Vale to Lingerie.
Well, maybe you can.
That really would have an effect on them, wouldn't it?
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 26, 2001.
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First, some of the most unbelievable military maneuvers ever pulled off by the United States government, our special forces, is actually a collection of it on a website.
There is some merit in that as a means to destroy a culture.
There's two ways about it, sir.
Thank you very much.
He's right about that.
Now, I'm not sure that America destroys cultures, but you could do it.
You really could do it.
Theirs is an extremely strict culture, very, very, very strict.
And if they were sufficiently overwhelmed with cultural misfits, it would have a very derogatory effect on their ongoing situation.
Probably be a slaughter, though, though.
Slaughter.
A wild card line, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Art, Austin here in Flagstaff.
Yes.
The previous caller, I think, was almost in the right direction.
I've been thinking hyperdimensionally here about how to take advantage of this situation to clear up all of our Middle Eastern problems and Wenfell swoop.
We've got an Afghanistan situation where there really isn't a government.
I mean, they were only recognized by Pakistan, and everybody else has withdrawn any recognition from them.
We don't want to get a lot of Americans killed.
We do want to take the Taliban down.
We've got the Palestinians clamoring for a homeland.
The Israelis don't want them on their doorstep.
Fine.
The UN convenes.
We now designate Afghanistan as the new Palestinian homeland.
The idea I had is if they have to fight in the streets, if they're going to use germ warfare against us, we could use it in a milder form.
We could use, you know, give them a flu of some sort, inoculate our troops, make them sick enough where they're incapacitated to fight, which would make things, you know, a great deal easier.
Do you think if we nail down those who have sent the weapons grade anthrax, might as well call it what it is, all over the place in Washington and New York, if we nail down who did that, are we morally justified ourselves in using some kind of germ warfare?
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Well, I think we are as long as we can use it in some kind of controlled fashion.
And then release something that just goes after that genetic code.
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Well, you know, this is the thing.
I think all of that's in the realm of possibility.
If you have to go after these people in villages, I don't know whether you could use some sort of mild gas on them, that wouldn't kill them, would incapacitate them, or I'd like to use some sort of term warfare.
Another thing is when we take prisoners, if we export, send them to another country, if they could use hypnotics on them, if you guys got these guys really blasted on LSD and let them think, you know, hallucinate that they're in Mecca, they're before Allah, and they're recounting their victories and how they did this, you'd get a lot of information out of them.
Well, I know that we certainly had a lot of intense, terrible battles on the island of Okinawa trying to get the Japanese out of the caves.
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Well, they were doing testing here with bats.
They were putting little incendiary packages on, and they were planning on sending them into Tokyo because all of their buildings were made out of paper and wood and just starting a huge firestorm over there.
But they were doing some testing, and they had several dignitaries attending, and apparently one of the bats attached itself to one of their vehicles and caused a fire.
And it didn't go over too well after that.
But anyway, what my idea is, it's not a really totally new idea, but I think everybody knows that unless things really fall apart, nobody's ever going to use nuclear weapons, at least from the U.S. Probably not.
But if you remember in the Gulf War, when we had mass surrenders by a lot of the Iraqi troops?
What they did was, and I only heard this one time, what they did was they dropped leaflets on all these troops, the Iraqi troops, and they said, if you don't surrender right now, you're going to be hit with the largest conventional weapon ever known to man.
I remember that, but what I really remember, sir, was, and this is the truth, we buried them alive.
Pretty much we buried them alive.
I don't know whether you know this or not, but we had gigantic earth-moving equipment, and they were in trenches, and we buried them alive.
It's not a well-known fact, but it's the truth.
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Well, I know about that, but if you saw, if you remember on TV when they showed all the long lines of Iraqi soldiers coming and starting to kiss our guys' feet, it's because they had a fuel air bomb dropped on them.
And if we could use that in the same way, we could carpet fuel air bomb with, a lot of people call it the poor man's tactical nuke.
And if we only had intelligence on, you know, a general area where these guys were, they don't stay in their caves all the time.
And then about a week, two later, people don't realize, everything that we need to do this, we have in our National Football League.
We send over the National Football League with the cheerleaders.
And first we drop in the cheerleaders in their uniforms, and they dance and they cheer.
And this is going to pull all these guys out so we don't have to go in after them.
And then while they're standing there, you know, draw the gape, then we send in the big linebackers and pull out Kevlar, and they take them all down, we just get them all, and then we sort them out later, the good guys in the backups.
They throw a lot of marrow in there, and it's a source of their money.
So we could confiscate their rubble.
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No, any truck crossing a border, even any boat, any Saudi oil tanker, anything in international waters, we could also try to export that law to the countries in the area that could help us out with that.
And then after we do that, then I suggest we let it be known that any person who's caught here illegally in this country will not be deported to Mexico or wherever they come from, but deported over to Afghanistan.
It's my understanding, but nevertheless, in an era of shrinking civil rights, perhaps an okay idea.
I don't know.
It's my understanding that we generally have to treat immigrants, even illegal immigrants, in a constitutional manner, which of course would legally, as well as morally, prohibit us from doing this sort of thing.
In areas where we're required to put in ground troops, I'm telling you, and I'll say it again, I said it earlier, we know that the top Taliban people and the Al-Qaeda people and so forth and so on are mixing, we believe, with civilians.
So it's a damn good idea.
Instead of going into an area where you know they're prepared for urban warfare, you put people to sleep ahead of time.
You don't kill them.
You just put them asleep and then sort them out.
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And somebody was also saying, blast them out with Slim Whitman.
Much like years ago with Nori Aga, how he's in his nice little safe little haven there.
that could be a message on itself anyway right was the rockies you're on the air Turn your radio off.
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I got it off.
Yeah, my idea was that we look at the real evildoers, the ones who are behind these fanatical fundamentalists who are putting up the money to get them whipped up into a frenzy.
And we maybe go after the top one or two richest percent of the richest people in the world, be they Americans or Saudis or whoever, and put them before like a tribunal for crimes against humanity, for stirring up wars against each other.
a lot of it seems frankly and honestly religiously motivated more than it does anything else.
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I don't think the religion is very widespread or very extreme until certain, you know, moneyed interests get in there and start whipping them up and putting, you know, putting people and operatives in there to get the...