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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Out of the Box Thinking About Terrorism - Open Lines
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Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 26, 2001.
From the high deserts in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and good morning and good afternoon across all time zones on Earth.
This is Coast to Coast AM and I'm Art Bell and it's going to be a special night tonight, Friday night, Saturday morning.
We're going to have only one topic all night long and it's a real doozy.
We'll get to that shortly.
It's the out-of-the-box thinking topic.
Right?
That's coming up.
It'll be, oh, it'll be a doozy.
And there's plenty of news to bolster reason for this kind of thinking.
New news.
The U.S.
Supreme Court is closed for anthrax testing.
So now even the U.S.
Supreme Court.
It's getting to, you know, it's getting everywhere in government.
Everywhere.
Trace amounts of anthrax have now been discovered in the offices of three congressmen in a House office building.
So, Supreme Court, the government generally, even the CIA, I guess you've heard about that, right?
Anthrax coming at us from all over the place.
Meanwhile, the war goes on.
U.S.
warplanes mistakenly bombed Red Cross warehouses in a nearby residential area in Kabul for the second time in a month.
That was our Pentagon acknowledging that, FAA teens.
The ruling Taliban on Friday captured and probably locked off the head of a former guerrilla leader.
Who slipped into Afghanistan to try to lure tribal leaders away from that regime.
In other words, he rather fancied himself as the next ruler, going there to build a coalition, but not without his head.
I actually don't know that he's been beheaded, but he's definitely dead.
A top health official getting back to the anthrax official raised the possibility today there may be a second anthrax-laced letter to the Washington area somewhere after a State Department worker fell ill with the disease.
How the employee got inhaled anthrax remains a mystery.
The Postal Workers Union Is talking about shutting down mail processing plants, stopping the mail, virtually stopping the mail in the affected cities, you know, New York, Washington, that would be incredible.
You can't stop the mail to New York, can you?
Or can you?
I really don't know.
But that's an incredible thing to contemplate.
I certainly understand the postal workers dilemma.
You know, they're handling, uh, perhaps something, uh, lethal.
So you can understand their dilemma, but... Wow, to stop the mail to New York and Washington.
Wow!
That would really be something, and... Uh, now the, uh, the suits at the post office have said it's an insane idea.
I don't know.
I can see both sides of the argument.
I, you know, I can see the postal worker's, uh, argument, for sure.
And I can see our government side, if you stop, let's see, if you stop the mail to New York and Washington, what would happen to our economy?
Well, it would be, I'm sure it would be wounded, don't you think?
Well, listen, Tuesday night, Tuesday night of this week, I had a guest on and we got into an animated conversation about the probable wider war that we're about to be uh... engaged in one that could include virtually a war between islam and and and the western world it could surely go there no question about it and my guest was saying that uh... we need to think out of the box really out of the box now what does that mean that means unusual innovative
Wild, even crazy ideas about how we can win this war, because right now, if you really look at it objectively, we're bombing and we're looking for Osama, but I'm not sure how much, well, to some great degree, we've bounced the rubble around over there.
There's going to be a long war.
It's going to be a hard war.
Nobody says this is easy and there are objective people who would view the other side as winning right now.
Doesn't mean we're ultimately going to lose because we are innovative people!
We are bright people!
Now, you're not going to believe this.
After I decided, instantly at that very time, I knew That this was going to be an incredibly good, worthwhile, probably fun topic.
And you just never know, we might come up with some really valuable idea.
Well, lo and behold, Thursday, October 25th, unbelievably, the following story was sent out by Reuters News Dateline Washington.
The Pentagon cast a wide net on Thursday for bright ideas on thwarting terrorism, seeking to pick the brains of just about everyone, from tinkerers in their garages to big corporations worldwide.
The Defense Department said it was seeking help in defeating difficult targets, conducting protracted operations in remote areas, and developing countermeasures to weapons of mass destruction.
That goes on and on.
Is to find concepts that could be developed and fielded in 12 to 18 months.
Short time, right?
Much faster than normal Pentagon purchasing and deployment timetables.
In other words, usually they've got tons of paperwork, they've got bureaucracy tenfold, and they can't get anything done quickly, but they're saying, hey listen, we're ready to cut the red tape.
And if we get a good idea, let's rock.
You know, like getting a drug through tomorrow.
U.S.
officials, from President Bush on down, have said they fear more terrorist attacks after the September 11th hijack attacks that killed more than 5,000 at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and of course the crashed airline flight in Pennsylvania.
Now, a little further down in the story, and we have linked to the ABC News Reuters story, So you can read this for yourself.
A little further down in the story it says, the beauty of it is you can get a broad range of people thinking out of the box.
Often you'll get ideas from inventors as well as big defense contractors.
Well, so there you have it.
I don't know whether I should feel flattered, spied upon, or Just like a person who's had a very synchronous thing occur to him, I will choose to believe that they may have heard us contemplating the whole out-of-the-box thing.
And they decided, well, hey, you know, that's a pretty good idea.
Why don't we encourage it?
So, even the Pentagon wants it.
And tonight, we shall give it to them.
Encouraging my listeners, who, for the most part, are out of the box a little bit anyway, just like me, to actually think even further out of the box is a little like lighting a stick of dynamite, talk radio dynamite, but that's okay.
That's what we're gonna do.
So, tonight's topic is... Ta-da!
Are you ready?
Think out of the box.
Let your mind, let your body drift out of the box.
Contemplate a way that America can quickly, cleanly win this war with no major aftereffects.
In other words, a best idea today wins.
In fact, best idea throughout the show tonight just might get implemented, just might get carried forth So it is a great power indeed you have tonight.
Go ahead.
Be my guest.
Get weird.
Think about what we can do.
How we can get Bin Laden.
How we can not cause all of Islam to go to war against us.
How we can end terrorism.
All of that.
If you have a strange and just even a weird idea, lay it on us.
That's what we're up to tonight.
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Smart idea?
I would love to see that happen.
A mission to an asteroid is exactly the kind of thing that our nation's space program ought to be focused on.
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What better target than leaving the Earth-Moon system behind completely and venturing off to a new little world that we've never been to before and getting ready for that long mission to Mars.
Now we take you back to the night of October 26th, 2001, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
time.
We're going to open the lines and see what sort of out-of-the-box thinking you've got tonight.
You just never know.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, what?
Yes, sir.
Do you have some out-of-the-box thinking?
Yes, sort of.
It just crossed my mind.
This is Mark from Suffolk, New York, by the way.
I was thinking about maybe having some type of world election.
And just try to have a vote to decide that maybe we should nuke them all and give a certain amount of time to either, you know, come on our side or, you know, it's a terrible thing, would be millions of people, but maybe we should have to do something like that.
Well, what do you mean by nuke them all?
Be specific.
You know, basically what I'm saying is that, I mean, you know, go after the countries themselves.
I mean, granted, it would be destroying millions of people.
Yeah.
But again, define Nukemal.
Well, just kill everything there is.
Everything there is?
Yeah.
You mean in Iraq, for example?
Definitely.
Oh, definitely Iraq?
Definitely.
All of them.
Afghanistan?
Afghanistan, Lebanon, everybody.
Oh, Lebanon too?
Well, I mean, it's a sad thing to say.
As a human being, I feel bad even saying it, but to me, I don't know what's going to happen because I feel that we're going to be destroyed.
You think it's a death match?
Yes, I would agree with that.
Yes, it is.
It's us or them.
Women?
Children?
Dogs?
Cats?
I hate to say that, but yes.
Every living thing.
Every living thing.
In every country that is suspected of terrorism, I take it.
Right.
And this would be a worldwide vote.
How long would it take to have a vote?
Any civilized country have a vote?
Well, who would be voting?
Any country in the world that wants to vote.
And just have a vote.
Should we do this and let the world go on?
Would that be including or excluding the probable targets of this?
It would include the target, too.
So they could vote?
Definitely.
Definitely.
I mean, I don't want to make it into a religious thing, you know, that there's more Christians or whatever, but just see if the world can go on.
Alright, well, there we go.
You're out of the box, alright?
I appreciate your call.
You're probably, where, in New York?
Yes, I'm about 40 miles outside of the city.
Alright, thank you very much.
Nuke them all.
Well, that would be quite some number of countries.
But first, he wants a vote.
You know, just the process alone of the voting, you know, something that could probably be done at the UN, right?
That would probably so scare the hell out of these countries that they'd throw Bin Laden out on his ear.
Here, take them!
I don't know.
Newcomb Hall, serious stuff.
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Yes, sir.
Where are you calling from?
This is Michael from Portland, Oregon.
Yes, Michael.
Listened to you for three years plus, and quick and fast, I have a good humor thing, I think.
We need to put out movies, and putting our nasty one in the movies, doing stupid things, falling on his face, saying something that he believes in, and have manure either spilled against him or... Bin Laden, you're... You get him.
Well, we've got to get him first.
I mean, we don't have... Well, true this, but... We don't have him.
The point is, to do this, I think, humor after humor movie, just flick, dump things On where he is living, to prove the point that he is really stupid in the eyes of everyone else who has divided him.
So you want to dump dung on him?
Well, I use that phrase, I only mean that humor movies against him that would really get him upset.
Having himself to see them.
Parodies.
Thank you.
I'm not sure how somebody of that mindset would accept a parody.
It might drive him absolutely, totally nuts, I don't know.
Yeah, well that's really what I was aiming at, saying at least take a flip-flop of what we're trying to do otherwise.
I'm not against fighting him, getting him in the end, but come up with something that would really bother him.
What about my last caller's option?
Didn't hear the last caller.
He wanted to nuke everybody.
Nuke all the countries even suspected of terrorism, but he wanted before he did that to hold a vote.
All countries in the world could vote.
Well, we asked you to think out of the box.
How do we win this war?
Get out of the box.
and verbally but i don't think it would do the job against the way that he
thinks which is a quite a bit different than what normal people would like to have a good my vaporizing
very cruel along with course everybody else i i i appreciate your calls for
thank you we asked you to think out of the box
how do we win this war get out of the box throw away your usual thinking
and tell me how you think we can win this war for watching.
The further out of the box you are, the better.
But it should be workable.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
All right, I hope this connection is better than the one you and I had last night.
The force just wasn't with me, I guess.
Okay, well, uh, the force is with you now.
Where are you?
This is Tom in Mesa, Arizona.
Okay, Tom.
South side of Phoenix.
You got some out of the box thinking?
Uh, well, they got aircraft carriers out there, don't they?
No, we have aircraft carriers.
Well, yeah, that's what I mean, us.
Yes.
Well, load the aircraft carriers with crop duster planes and have them with mixtures of rendered pork fat and pork feces.
Another dung drop.
But this one will be literal, since they have decidedly declared holy war on us, why should we be respectful of their religious ethic, such as it is?
Pork fat?
Yes.
And dung.
Hey, Art?
It's a pretty disgusting mixture.
Art, for a topic outside of the war, if you ever get to any open night like that?
I am on an open night.
Well, anyway... Oh, you mean other than the war, yes.
Yeah, just a suggestion on my part.
Yes?
I'd like to hear from somebody well-scholared in current methods of alternate reality.
We do that all the time, sir.
Alternate realities we talk about all the time.
Just doing the show is an alternate reality of one sort.
Um, East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hello.
Yes, this is Edmund from Columbus.
Edmund, how are you doing?
Quite well, sir, thank you.
Um, you have proven through your Princeton, um, actual proof, the graphs went off the chart, experimenting with mass consciousness should concentrate on the most quick, most peaceful resolution of the problem on a continuing basis.
So a mind blast.
A mind blast.
Once a month.
For peace.
You know?
Because someone must have told you about the hundredth monkey concept?
Yes.
Of course.
Okay.
Well, if we get a portion of the population of each religion, and there's a large portion of all religions who are terrified of this personally, Pray for peace in whichever form that wave goes out there.
Would that be peace at any price?
Stop a second.
I have a real reptile part of my brain.
Yes, everyone does.
But mine is very prominent.
I want peace too, but I want it after we kill them.
Now, I understand that that's not too far out of the box.
That's the usual old box.
But I'm really kind of stuck there.
They killed thousands of Americans.
I say, go to hell and rot there and die.
And I think that we should do that.
We should kill them.
That's just me.
You want to pray for peace?
At any price?
The quickest way to get it would be... Alright, listen, I'm putting you down there.
Peace at any price, virtually.
You want to pray for that?
Not me.
I want to kill him.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 26, 2001.
You've been a messin', well you shouldn't have been a messin'.
And now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do.
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you She's got something that moves my soul
And she knows I'd love to love her But she lets me down every time.
Can't make her mine.
She's no one's lover tonight With me she'll be so fine
I want her all for myself Oh, temptation eyes
You can't prove I'm not mine Oh, temptation eyes
You've got to love me Got to love me tonight
Got to love me baby All I do is dance, it's just a game
We're just the same My head is spinning
She's got a way to keep me on her side It's just a vibe
It's never an interlight With me she'll be so fine
We're in time Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM
From October 26, 2001 And I alluded to the following email the other day
when we began talking about this It was sent...
percent.
Uh, by Diane, who says, Art, please share this with Ramona.
It's entitled, Go Girls Go, by Diane.
And here's her idea.
Take, well, you know how, uh, the Taliban feels about women, right?
Take all American women who are within five years of menopause.
Train us for a few weeks.
Outfit us with automatic weapons.
Grenades, gas masks, moisturizer.
SPF 15, Prozac, hormones, chocolate, and canned tuna.
Drop us parachuted, preferably, across the landscape of Afghanistan and let us do what comes naturally.
Think about it, Art.
Our anger quotient alone, even with just doing standard stuff like grocery shopping and paying bills, is formidable enough even to make farmed men and turbans tremble.
We've had our children We would gladly suffer or die to protect them and their future.
We'd like to get away from our husbands, if they haven't left already.
And for those of us who are single, the prospect of finding a really good man with whom to share life is about as likely as being struck by lightning.
We have nothing to lose.
We've survived the water diet, the protein diet, the carbohydrate diet, and the grapefruit diet.
Been in gyms and saunas across America, never lost a pound.
We can easily survive months in the hostile terrain of Afghanistan with no food at all.
We've spent years tracking down our husbands or lovers who ignore us in bars, hardware stores, or sporting events.
Finding bin Laden in some cave will be no problem.
Uniting all the warring tribes of Afghanistan in a new government?
Oh, please!
We've planned the seating arrangements for in-laws and extended families at Thanksgiving dinner for years.
We understand tribal warfare.
Between us, we've divorced enough in husbands to know every trick there is for how they hide, launder, and or cover up bank accounts and money sources.
We know how to find that money, and we know how to seize it, with or without the government's help.
Let us go and fight!
The Taliban hates women.
Imagine their terror as we crawl like ants with hot flashes over their godforsaken terrain.
I'm going to write my congressman, and you should too.
Go, girls, go!
Now we take you back to the night of October 26, 2001, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
October 26, 2001.
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Alright, again, the topic tonight, think out of the box, get way out of the box.
How do we win this war?
Or even any aspect of it, for that matter.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi Art.
Hi.
Where are you?
I'm Cindy and I'm in Seattle.
Alright, Cindy.
Hi.
This may be stupid, but in addition to bringing the terrorists to justice, It seems obvious to me that any border agreement between Islam and the Jewish people over there is pretty slim.
You mean the Palestinians?
Yeah, the Palestinians, I'm sorry.
How about if we move, get in there with excavators and just move massive amounts of the soil from one side to the other side of the border?
They can build a giant mosque over it.
Soil?
Yeah, the actual earth that they're fighting over.
Just get in there.
Just mass quantities of it.
But you can't really do that.
I mean, if you move the dirt, then there's still dirt there to be fought over.
In other words, you could never move it all.
No, but divide it somehow.
50-50.
Well, the Israelis have been doing that for a long time.
That's so important to them.
You know, a Palestinian state is being talked about now.
And that's sort of the same idea.
You just want to move a lot of dirt.
Yeah.
But, alright, thank you very much.
Okay.
Alright, take care.
Somehow I don't think that settles land disputes, you know, moving... moving dirt.
I own that.
No, I own that.
Alright, well then, here, have this dirt.
Uh, probably not.
Uh, wildcard line.
Try not to be judgmental, but dirt.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
How you doing, Art?
Okay, sir.
Where are you?
At Abilene Fest.
At Abilene, okay.
Getting chilly down here.
I'm glad you asked that question out of the box.
That's what I got for you.
Okay, good.
I just want to read you like three small paragraphs.
No, please don't.
No, no, no, no.
Alright.
Don't read to me, but do paraphrase it.
Okay.
Don't read.
There's a program called the Peaceful Solution Education Program.
It teaches people how to solve their problems agreeably.
We as a nation, you know, we could bring this program into all the schools in the world.
And with this program, we can start turning, you know, the hearts and the minds of all people to peace and away from the hatred that we see building in us and in all the other nations today.
Okay, but how do you get around the fact that 5,000 Americans have been murdered?
I mean, surely that cries out for some kind of justice.
I'm all for peace.
Indeed.
This terrorist attack is a tragedy, Art, but if we lower ourselves to become exactly what we see in those miserable people who Who are filled with just as much hatred that they willingly gave their lives in order to take the lives of others.
Are we any better than that?
I don't know.
Do you oppose the death penalty?
My opposition is that there's a place for that.
There is a place for the death penalty in your mind?
Absolutely.
Well then, if you wouldn't impose it for the murder of 5,000 people, what would you do?
I tell you, the people that killed the 5,000 people are dead, Art.
Says who?
Oh, you mean the guys?
Yeah, but they were directed.
So, in any court of the land, sir, those who ordered the hit are as responsible as those who pull the trigger.
And those guys ain't caught yet, sir.
Any court of the land, you have to prove that somebody did something.
And I'm not saying Bin Laden didn't do it, and I'm not saying Bin Laden's a nice guy.
All I'm trying to say is that That this entire country is willing to nuke, as the earlier caller said, everybody in the Middle East.
Well, that was a little extreme.
Right?
Well, on account of one man or 20 men's orders to destroy 5,000 people, and that'll make us any better.
You know, that's the same stuff they're doing.
You know, what we really need to do is go to these nations and ask them, you know, and say, what are your complaints with us?
And truly present care and concern to them and desire to help solve their dilemmas rather than showing revenge.
Okay.
I appreciate your call and your suggestion, and I am just going to really try and not be judgmental and just take your suggestions.
And if yours is that we have a big peace hoedown with them somewhere, then I'll let you present that.
That's out of the box.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
This is Eric, and I'm in Denver, Colorado.
Hello, Eric.
And my suggestion is something that you've talked about on your show actually a little bit before.
The Harp Project.
Oh yes.
I was thinking well since one of their ideas was that it was used to map out underground caves.
Bunkers?
Yes.
Caves?
And it also may have use in disrupting the thinking process of people, it is theorized?
That, or maybe even possibly creating some sort of sonic vibrations to collapse those caves?
You know, I was thinking along the same lines of collapsed caves.
There ought to be a way.
They've got these bunker busters, and that would no doubt collapse a cave.
But, you know, good.
I mean, that's good.
I'm sure they're working real hard on trying to find the bunkers and the places they can drop the bunker busters.
So, that one's probably underway.
Well, I hope it helps.
All right, sir.
Thank you very much, and take care.
Use heart.
Locate the caves and drop the bigumens on them.
Well, I'm sure we're using, I would think, whatever technology we have to find the hiding locations, the bunkers, the caves of these murderers.
I'm sure we're trying to do that.
It may come down, you know, to virtual urban warfare if the Taliban is hiding the worst of them among their civilian population, which is probable.
It's gonna be one hell of a job to go in there and door-to-door find them, almost impossible.
Guerrilla warfare at its worst.
So, if any of you can come up with an out-of-the-box idea, I would be a Canadian, out-of-the-box, right?
Idea that would avoid that kind of warfare, which would be very lossy in terms of human lives for us.
That'd be good.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air, hello!
Hello?
Yes, sir.
You're on the air.
Hiya.
That email was hilarious.
Perhaps to some, sir.
Maybe not others.
I thought I'd mention that you might be interested in it.
A friend of mine's got a shadow cat that walks around the house.
And she thought it was her own cat.
We're not doing that tonight.
No, but I just thought I'd mention it.
Well, instead, give me your out-of-the-box idea.
I have the last, say, 12 years, I've been doing remote viewing before I even knew what it was.
And I don't do it.
I put somebody on to hypnosis, which, if they're psychic, they really can remote view once they're under.
And I don't understand where the... I know the CIA used it in the past, and they found a dignitary or somebody over and, you know, they had a... So then what is your idea?
That they use... They use remote view and get a map and say, now where is he?
You know?
And all they do is point it out.
That should be simple.
Well, okay.
I appreciate your call, sir.
We've really already done that, in a way.
As you know, Ed Dames remote-viewed the location At the time of the attack, the control point of the attack, as near Kandahar, and actually drew a map, and you may have noticed, that was a long time ago, and as you may have noticed, we are spending particular numbers, large numbers of bombs in the Kandahar area.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Turn your radio off, please.
Off, all the way off.
No, all the way off, sir.
All the way off.
You've got to click.
Turn it off.
OK, it's off.
OK.
Go ahead.
Now, what is your first name?
Tom.
Tom.
And where are you calling from, Tom?
Gilbert, Ohio.
Or Gilbert, Arizona.
I'm sorry.
You don't even know what state you're in.
No, no, no.
I'm from the East.
I'm actually with a past elected official in the state of New York.
Really?
Yes.
You still got your radio on?
Okay, go ahead.
No, you've got your dog on too.
Alright, so you've got an out-of-the-box idea for us or what?
Well, it may be out-of-the-box.
I think one of the things we need to start doing is more civil defense, you know, within our own country.
The presence of military... But how will that end the war?
The idea is to come up with an out-of-the-box idea that will help us win the war, sir.
Well, I heard the caller earlier say about Newcomaw, okay, and I think what we need to do is look at more survival, okay?
But how does that help us?
That's good for defense, but how does that help us win the war?
Well, we've got to first protect our own people first.
Maybe by shutting down the borders, I'm starting to protect our waterways, protect our airports, protect our electrical grids, everything that's in place.
We need to start really concentrating on protecting our own people, and then leave the war that's outside of our country, go on and we go over there and we do what we have to, but institute the draft only for civil defense.
Get people more involved in their own country.
So nobody fights that doesn't want to overseas?
Right, right.
But I think if we keep concentrating over there, just like what they're doing with Anthrax, if it's terrorism that's doing the Anthrax and they're shutting down the postal services and things like that.
We need to really start looking at concentrating on protecting our people because we'll lose the war by trying to win the war over there.
All right.
Actually, you know what?
He's got a good point.
Now, of course, the administration is doing a lot.
In the Homeland Defense area.
And there's a lot of that going on right now, so we sort of are doing that, and I suppose we can do more, and we can do it more efficiently, right?
And that will be part of winning the war.
He's right.
If we can make the American people comfortable, so they feel relatively safe, then the other side is defeated in the sense that they have not met their objectives of terrorizing and disrupting us.
First time caller on the line, you are on the air.
Yes, I'm calling from near Paris, Texas.
I live out in the woods.
Yes, sir.
I pick you up through KLIS out of Dallas.
Dallas, yes.
Go ahead.
I've got the perfect solution.
Listening.
Okay, if all America, everybody in America, would take a day off from work, say like on a Wednesday or something, everybody in America, And the employers would have paid them for taking off the work, that way they would show up.
Everybody would pray to God and repent of what we have done to Him, how we betrayed Him.
And I think we'd be back under His umbrella, His protection, and He would solve our problems.
Well, that must mean, then, that you think that the reason that we have this war and terrorism in America right now is because we have betrayed God.
Absolutely.
All right, sir.
Well, I appreciate the call and the thought.
And I suppose it's worth the thought.
In other words, we're in bad stead right now with the big guy.
And we need to get on the right side.
And when we do, things will start going right.
That's his suggestion.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi, Art.
This is Derek in San Diego.
Yes, Derek.
I've got the perfect out-of-the-box solution that will make everybody in the world happy.
That's pretty good, all right.
Okay, well, it is.
Listen, okay, what we do... Now, the Islamic fundamentalists want America out of the Middle East, so basically, so they can attack Israel.
That's what they want.
They want to get Israel out of there.
Well, that would be certainly the result if we abandoned Israel, they would attack.
Okay, so then, let's back off and let's let the Battle of Ezekiel 38 happen.
We tell the Arabs, we are going to back off And we let them and Russia, like it's predicted, let them go in there and let God take care of them.
Let God sort it out, huh?
Because, I mean, and this will prove to the world once and for all... Tell the Israelis, you guys are on your own.
Tell the Arabs, now's the time.
There's the place.
Go for it, guys.
Yeah, we tell them that, and then we tell Israel, look, we're not abandoning you.
Aren't you worried about the possibility of, with such a radical thing for us to do, aren't you worried about Armageddon?
No, because the battle of Ezekiel 38 is not Armageddon.
Well, but how do you know which battle you'd spark?
Well, the point is... No, but... No, really?
Well, listen... It could be the end of everything.
We could just... No, we let them go, because look, we tell the Arabs... But Israel has, you know, big atomic weapons.
Yeah, but, okay...
If they're going to use them, let them use them, but... Then there's the Islamic bomb, too.
Okay, but look.
According to the Bible, God is going to protect Israel, and he will use his own hand to defend Israel if he has to.
But not the American hand.
I think I get the idea, sir.
Abandon Israel.
Tell them, that's it.
We're done.
No more money, no more help, no more arms.
You're on your own.
Then tell the Arab world, now is the time.
Have at it.
Well, I want it out of the box.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, this is John in Houston.
Yes, John.
I know that you probably want a more militaristic solution.
Not necessarily.
No, no, no, no.
Well, if you look, what do you think the most powerful part of bin Laden's whole terror campaign is?
I mean, if you were just thinking on your own, what do you think the most Powerful part.
Why is he so powerful?
That's an interesting question.
Well, because terror is, fear is a powerful tool.
Well, right it is, but how is he able to bring that about?
Well, by crashing into buildings and sending anthrax, maybe?
Okay, but I'm sorry, I mean a little bit more basic than that.
How is he able to get the people To kill themselves.
In other words, how does he motivate his terrorists?
By telling them that they will go directly to paradise without a go, where there might be 70 virgins or some such.
Right, right.
And all of the different things we've heard.
Now, I guess what I'm thinking about here is, you know, it's kind of like as opposed to treating the disease, which unfortunately when we're just trying to bomb and trying to find him in the middle of those mountains, that's almost like what we're doing.
I mean, we're treating the symptoms and not the disease.
What if We really seriously sit down with Muslim clerics throughout the world and we get the Pope or whoever, you know, the different religious leaders to sit down.
Honestly, the United States isn't perfect.
We have made mistakes with the people we've backed in the past, and some people hate us for it.
That still doesn't justify anything that's been done.
I don't mean that, but... You know what, sir?
I think you're on to something.
I think I get it.
You want the top leaders of the religions, which basically are the biggest part of the war, to sit down and have a talk.
That's not half bad.
That's not bad, sir.
Okay, but... Very quickly.
Okay, we'll find out if, really, Islam is truly against it.
Oh, no, I understand.
All right, I've got it.
I've got to go also.
Listen, he's on to a good one there.
That would be a kind of backdoor way to perhaps really get the job done, wouldn't it?
You're listening to Arc Bell, somewhere in time.
tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from October 26, 2001.
I'm in a spin. I gave you love. I thought that we had made it to the top. I gave you all.
Sweet dreams are made of singing. Who am I to disagree? I travel the world and the never-ending sea. Everybody's
looking for something.
Some of them want to use you. Some of them want to get used by you. Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want
to be abused.
Sweet dreams are made of singing. Who am I to disagree? I travel the world and the never-ending sea. Everybody's
looking for something.
I tell you, I think my last caller was really on to something.
Now, from my point of view, this is something you would want to do after you've killed Bin Laden and company.
in time. Tonight's program originally aired October 26, 2001.
I tell you, I think my last caller was really on to something. Now, from my point of view,
this is something you would want to do after you've killed Bin Laden and company. But at
that point, it might be a really good idea to have a virtual summit around the world.
A real summit between Islam and Christianity.
And try and settle the differences so that we can work together in the future, in the world, without having an all-out war.
Now, that sounds like a really, really, really good idea.
First, a triple A idea tonight.
And definitely worthy.
Because that's what seems to cause all these wars, right?
Religion.
So if they could get together, it might be a nice backdoor way to do it anyway, and put the religion out in front of the politicians for a change, and they might come up with something that hasn't been come up with, nobody's come up with before.
That's a really, really good idea.
We'll be right back.
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All right, the challenge to all out there this night is think out of the box.
How do we win this war?
Man, that guy really had a good suggestion.
Line 1, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Yes, sir.
Where are you?
I'm in Arkansas.
Arkansas.
Okay.
Listening to KARN.
Yes, sir.
In Little Rock, KARN.
Right.
Okay.
My idea involves your show, and it's kind of like with the shadow people, is you never know unless you ask.
I think that you should open up a hotline for people who have powers beyond that of the normal human.
You know, sort of like superpowers.
Yes.
And I guess we could sift through your millions of listeners until we find at least one individual with viable superpowers.
Right.
That we could use to defeat Bin Laden, or at least protect ourselves civilly.
It's not a really, you know, it's, you know, I was thinking out of the box.
What would you, let's assume this person exists, and that we could find him, or her.
What would you have them do?
I guess it would depend on what they were able to do.
Let's say they had a full range of powers, as defined by the old Superman series, or even something more recent.
What would you have them do?
Well, for one thing, we could help them protect people, like on the front lines in Afghanistan.
Or, say, if there were another similar terrorist attack, anyone who could fly or have Super strength or anything like that could have helped to at least prevent some of the things that happen.
It's not the most serious suggestion you've heard all night, but I thought it was an idea that would at least make an interesting show topic.
It will certainly encourage many volunteers, I can tell you that.
That will be interesting to see.
Yes.
Alright, sir.
Thank you very much.
Yes, many volunteers.
Many will say that they have the power to do this or that, but then again, you know, you could argue, well, if they do, then why aren't they doing it now?
Well, maybe they don't want to use their power for that.
So, I don't know.
There may be people walking around like that out there.
If a human being had a truly superior, important power, the odds are, you know, they would not tell other human beings about it.
Because surely somebody would then want to dissect them and find out exactly why they can do what they can do, or worse yet, even kill them because of envy or, you know, whatever.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art.
Yes.
This is Stu from Reno, Nevada.
Yes, sir.
Listening to KKOH.
Right.
My idea?
It seems that Bin Laden and group is using weapons of mass destruction.
Yes.
Flying planes into buildings.
Yes.
Nuke them.
I seriously think that that's what needs to be done.
I mean, our American people, our fellow Americans are dying over here because of anthrax.
That's a weapon of mass destruction.
It is.
And the planes into the buildings.
5,000, that's big time.
I mean, all these theories that your callers have called in with are great and all, but in the meantime, people are dying and getting infected with anthrax.
Who precisely would you nuke?
I mean, narrow it down just a little.
Well, if you want to narrow it down, I'd start with Afghanistan.
And definitely, I think, the possibility of Iraq, without a doubt.
You know, and I think we should have started thinking about this a long time ago.
Well, especially, you know, I mean, this started a while ago.
This isn't the first incident that Bin Laden and group... No, no.
Many, many, many.
The barracks, the coal, lots of things.
Exactly.
Yes, sure.
And we can know for sure there will be more, but nuking... And I just feel like, you know, how far does it have to go?
I mean, how close does it have to get to your backyard before, you know, people finally realize that, you know, we need to do something and do it now.
Apparently it's close enough to Europe.
I mean, our...
Nobody's taking flights.
So then you could, for example, personally give the order to nuke Kabul and any other city of size in Afghanistan, virtually, wiping out the whole country.
Yes.
All right, sir.
Well, that's very clear.
Thank you.
That's the second nuke-em idea.
Now, that one not quite as all-encompassing as the first, which would be to nuke all the countries even suspected.
It would certainly have a quarterizing effect.
However, we might be looked at in the world as perhaps overreacting to use thermonuclear devices and just take everybody out.
I don't think they're going to do that, but I mean, you can suggest it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi there, Art.
Hello.
As I suggested during your break, I think it would be really I think it would be very productive for your network to look over the list of guests that you've had over the years.
My guests?
Yes.
Since you've had everybody on from a scientist to an Evelyn Paglini, I think it would be very productive to get them together either by phone, video conferencing or whatever because you've had on some very brilliant people.
I think our country has a lot of resources.
And as of one of your resources, if you could pull a bunch of people together who would like to participate, perhaps they can bang a few ideas off the wall for a few hours and then submit it to, I don't know, the White House, the FBI, or the CIA.
But basically, you would like to unleash my most effective, vicious guests.
And I've had some real winners against them.
Not necessarily.
I'm talking about inventiveness.
Well, I understand.
No, I've got that.
I've got that.
Right.
And some of these people you've had on are, let's face it, they're out of the box.
A lot of them.
Oh, listen, Evelyn Paglini alone would probably raise the turbine right off their heads.
Yes, but I'm also thinking on the other end, too, you've had a lot of religious leaders.
You've had scientists who are very inventive.
Oh, there's just so many people, and I've listened to you for about ten years more, and I think perhaps even, you know, just to get some people together to get something that would work, because obviously the government is looking for people who have some ideas, and perhaps some of the scientists that you've had on would have some ideas about what... Okay, I've got it.
Basically unleashing my guests, which would be, in some cases, a truly cruel event indeed.
upon those who did us dirty.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes, turn your radio off, please.
Hello?
Yes, hello.
Oh, okay.
You know, you have to tell me if this is feasible.
I'm calling from Alaska.
If it's feasible?
Yeah, because I'm not... Calling from Alaska is obviously feasible.
Here you are.
Here you are.
No, but, see, I don't know how many people are in North Afghanistan still.
Well, quite a number.
The opposition is up there.
Okay, well, this is my idea.
Yes?
You take all the women and children.
Yes.
And the people that are hospitalized.
Right.
And check that there are no Taliban's in there or Osama's not there.
You get them over the border into Pakistan.
Yes.
Then you take American troops just in North Afghanistan.
Don't bother with the rest of it yet.
Then you take troops And you get all the men together.
In northern Afghanistan?
In northern Afghanistan.
Okay, all the men together, yes.
Get all the men together that are left there.
Right.
And you find out... Then you get them over the border to Pakistan.
And you put them in prison.
And you take the time to find out who's Taliban and who isn't.
Then you go back to Afghanistan.
So now northern Afghanistan's cleared out.
There's nothing there.
It's empty.
Everybody's in the pokey.
Right.
Okay.
Now, you drop leaflets for anybody that's left in the rest of Afghanistan.
What would they say, basically?
If there's any women and children left to go over the border, they'll only be allowed over the border to North Afghanistan.
Okay.
Okay, then you check those out.
Yes.
And whatever's left, you just, you just bomb the whole rest of the Just keep bombing the mountains, everything.
If anything... Would you go for conventional carpet bombing or nuclear stuff?
No, carpet bombing.
Just tons of it.
And even if they're in the caves, they'll get buried in the caves.
Oh, yeah.
So you just bury them.
We have time to do that.
Yeah, and we have lots of B-52s.
They're really good at that.
Right.
But meanwhile, you have to sift through what's in North Afghanistan to make sure that We're not saving any Taliban.
No, I think I've got it.
You clear everybody out, the opposition, the men, women, children, all of them, then you get the women and children from the rest of Afghanistan out of where they are and up to northern Afghanistan and basically bomb everybody else.
Correct.
Just wipe the rest of it all out and then have that summit meeting with the religious leaders.
I like that idea.
Alright.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
Hmm.
Leaving only the men.
Well, that's the protocol generally on a sinking ship, right?
So, don't you think that the men in the rest of Afghanistan would know that their ship is about to metaphorically sink?
First time caller line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Yeah, Sarge.
Some people may think this idea might be a little cruel and humane, but every day across the United States we euthanize a bunch of dogs and Other small animals in our humane shelters.
Yes we do, sadly.
I was just thinking if we could put them to use to our country somehow, rather than euthanizing them, possibly sending them over there with sexual charges on them, letting them search out the caves.
Wait a minute, so we send domestic animals like dogs and cats, right?
Correct.
Burdened with... I'm a dog lover too.
No, I've done it.
Burdened with large...
uh... amounts of uh... uh... satchel explosive uh... high-explosive drug you have to be very high-explosive charges well and i think i suppose we drop these animals and they they want to go in it they want to get out of the the the weather winners coming in afghanistan so they would run into the caves where they would then well and more or less and uh... some type of triggering device where there If they're shot, once they stop breathing or whatever... Would you blow them up all at once?
Or would you track them individually and then once each dog or cat got into a cave, blow them up then?
Well, just some type of triggering device.
Because I imagine once they got in a cave, the Taliban or whatever would try and dispose of the animals.
And if that triggering device was detonated upon their demise, It would take care of it then, or when the satchel charge removed from the body, it would detonate.
We could call it... You'd need a name for an operation like that.
You could call it... Or, Bow Wow!
Bow Wow.
How are you going to get this past the ASPCA, just out of curiosity?
Well, we send our human beings over there, and being retired military myself, they'd take me back, I'd go in a heartbeat.
Would you wear a satchel charge?
If that was the only way to bring freedom, and he came down to that... You would blow up for freedom?
Well, if I got in an airplane, or if I was standing on the lines with a gun in my hand, it comes down to me or them.
Alright sir, I appreciate the call, and it does make a mental picture.
Parachuting thousands of Satchel-charged dogs and cats into Afghanistan, where they would seek shelter from the weather, very likely in caves, and where you could then, by remote control, perhaps by satellite, you could certainly do it that way, blow up these little doggies and kitties, and presumably terrorists at the same time.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, R. Yes, sir.
This is Ron from Houston.
Hello, Ron.
I got a feeling, I think, how it's going to go down.
First of all, winter is coming.
Yes, it is.
And usually it's about zero degrees over there.
Now, caves are a natural heat vent.
Caves have a temperature around 70 degrees.
Well, not quite that high.
I think caves will get you in the high 50s.
But it'll do that winter or summer, which is why I suppose they're favored there.
If all these Taliban are in the caves, and they light a fire to keep warm, I think what we're going to use is the heat-sensitive and infrared technology that we have.
Oh, listen, you're right.
I heard a general on CNN knock them off like light bulbs.
Sir, a general?
You know, they were saying, oh, winter's coming and you can't really conduct operations.
The general said, au contraire.
And one of the things that he pointed out was exactly what you just said, that they can use all of their heat-sensing equipment in the winter, and it's incredibly effective then.
Well, I think that's the way it's going to go down, and this is a real war, and we've got billions of dollars worth of technology over there, and this is for real.
And I think, you know, all the other Ideas are, you know, sort of not really with it, and this is the way it's going to go down.
You didn't go for the dogs with charges?
No, I don't think that's the way it's going to go.
The little kitties?
No, I think our technology is a little bit more sophisticated than that.
Oh, good.
But I'm glad to get through.
This is my first time calling, and I appreciate it.
All right, sir.
Thank you, and thank you for calling.
No, he's right.
In fact, that's how right he is.
I saw a general saying exactly that.
We don't fear the winter with regard to the war.
In fact, it will enhance our abilities in many ways.
We have incredible heat-sensing equipment.
I know.
I've worked with some of it.
I've played with some of it.
I got on a Blackhawk and played with some of it.
And I can tell you, it's incredible what they... They can actually paint a picture that is just short of a real picture.
In other words, when you see a plane taking off, Or you see a human being at a very great distance with heat-sensing equipment, and I saw what a black hawk could do.
I sat there and played with it.
It's the next thing to a picture.
It just about is a picture.
It's that sensitive.
And so it could be a very, very rough winter for the terrorists if they're hiding in caves, because you've got to come out of a cave every now and then.
And if we had a lot of heat-sensing equipment, when they came out, we would find them.
So, our military does not exactly fear the winter.
In some ways, they look forward to it.
And this caller is exactly right.
But that's how you might root them out.
That's one of the things they wanted to know.
Think out of the box.
That's your challenge tonight.
How do we win the war?
And if you want to get way out of the box, some of you already have, that's what we want.
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Alright, out of the box thinking continues.
First on caller line, you're on the air.
Hi, this is John, Peoria, Illinois.
Hello, John, how are you doing?
Not too bad yourself?
Okay.
I've got a, it's kind of in-depth, but a way to get rid of Osama and all his buddies.
Well, give it to us as briefly as possible.
Okay, um, the new genetic research on how to create cures for some diseases by manipulating the genes.
Osama's got, what, 52 kids or something like that?
I hear he's very prolific, yes.
I say as we abscond with one of them.
Take one of his kids.
Yep.
And, uh, get a sample of the DNA from the child.
Yes.
And while we're, you know, the caves and stuff, get, uh, start picking up the trace evidence there and use, uh, DNA to find out which one matches the part of the kid.
And then, uh, just figure out a way to get a simple or one disease just to attack that one person.
Oh, all right.
So capture one of his offspring, do a DNA test, And then target a disease against a specific DNA trait.
That is pretty cold stuff, sir.
Well, I mean, we've got to do something.
He's kind of cold to us.
I wonder if DNA is in fact... I guess it is that discriminating, because they can certainly decide who the parents are with DNA, so... Brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant, my friend.
Thank you.
Not a problem.
Right.
That's a pretty good one, actually.
He's not talking about killing the child.
He's talking about discovering the specific trait, or some specific DNA trait, to Osama bin Laden, and then dispatching a disease with that specific trait.
Oh, that's pretty good stuff.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow, Cardeline, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, there.
Hi.
This is Karen in Houston.
Hi, Art.
Well, I like the idea of the summit.
I think since this is a religious war and everybody's debating, you know, who's going to dominate the thousand years of peace or the thousand years of war.
Almost every war is religious, really.
Yeah, so going to the root of it all, I think we need to have that summit where they discuss the whole of the earth is holy ground and that no one has a I'm really kind of for that idea myself, but only after we dispatch those immediately responsible for what happened.
Well, I think the greatest dispatching would happen when we understand there's no conflict in divine mind, and I think that would obliterate all that needs to be gone pretty quickly.
I just cannot rid myself of that part of my mind.
I want revenge.
I understand.
And then the summit.
But that's the only difference between us.
The summit is a good idea either way.
Yeah, I think so because there is so much in every religion that is the same.
And I think ultimately when you really simplify with all the heads of state and religion,
there is one great person that is really considered the one divine God and not just little bitty
aspects of the divine and all the different, I don't know, statuary and I don't think that's
the case.
In the long run, we are not going to beat a religion the way we beat communism.
Exactly.
It's not going to happen.
It's a different war.
So some kind of meeting of the minds at some point, and that's where we disagree, I think
is critical.
So yes, thank you very much.
I agree 100%.
We ran communism out of money.
Our system just clobbered theirs in every way possible until they finally threw up their
hands and took down that wall.
Thank you.
You're not going to do that with a religion, particularly a growing, strong religion like Islam.
You're just not going to do it.
So, some sort of summit at some point, again, for me it would be after we dispatch to their maker, those who have done this, but then at that point, not a bad idea really.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi Art, this is Eric from Potomac, listening on TNT, the nation's capital.
Yes, WTMT.
And I think we should go ahead and diplomatically recognize Afghanistan as a new Palestinian state.
Install Arafat, let him go in there and enjoy the Taliban.
In some ways, what you are suggesting is not so outrageous.
After all, the Palestinians need a state.
That's a state that's some ways away, which the Israelis would like.
The Taliban's probably, their days are just about numbered anyway.
Plus, on top of all that, they claim they want a homeland for the Palestinians.
So why not there?
And if you still want retribution, I mean, let Arafat round up all the Taliban's and play Yoko Ono's greatest tits and really capitulate.
Just sending Arafat alone is retribution.
Not quite sufficient in my eyes, but They'd take a beating.
I appreciate the call.
Actually, his idea is not bad at all.
Not bad at all.
You know what they say about two birds with one stone, right?
I would certainly do that.
Say, not only is the Taliban out, but the Palestinians are in.
And they could immigrate from all over the world, including those that surround Israel right now.
uh... much of the way israel uh... you know how to create a nation and uh... it had uh... and still has for that matter immigration from all over the world pretty good idea west of the rockies you are on the air hello west of the rockies yes me i'm willow i'm in southern california hey willow hey Art I've been thinking and thinking how to say this without getting you to be bored and hang up on me All through all the religions it says, turn the other cheek, love thine enemy, vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.
Yes.
Okay.
If you have a dark room, you can't change the darkness by putting more darkness in there.
You have to turn on a light.
Okay.
And I think that... Are you talking about nuclear weapons?
No, I'm talking about when it says love thine enemy.
Yes, yes.
Every time you're on the air, you have the same power that you have when we all concentrate on something, because you're putting ideas out there to all these people.
That's all I've got, though, is the power of ideas.
Not any small matter, but that's all.
But if all of us sent love into the evil, it might do the 100th monkey thing and turn on a light.
That's when the love would take over and that's the only way.
I don't think you overcome violence by more violence.
Alright, well I am registering your idea.
Almost without comment.
I just, that's not me.
That's just not me.
Me, I'd be more likely to write some nasty little phrase on a bomb that would be dropped, and I understand that our people have been doing that over there, by the way.
You know, this one's for George, that kind of thing.
But I'll try.
I'm really going to try and not be too judgmental here with the sending of love, you know, to people who just killed 5,000 of our citizens.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi, this is Jeff from Peoria.
Yes, Jeff.
How's Peoria?
Oh, it's pretty great.
Good.
Kind of an island of peace in this storm we're in, I think.
So far.
Well, my idea is that we use CGI and create an artificial message with a fake Bin Laden in it.
I do want to say something to you.
Yeah?
You actually, in a lot of ways, Peoria would be a target.
You know, it really would, because even the The terrorists probably know.
They know a lot about America.
I mean, they've had people over here training and stuff, right?
Right.
So they've heard, does it play in Peoria?
They've heard that.
They've heard that phrase.
And so they've got to know that if they were to hit something as, you know, apple pie and mother and so forth as Peoria, that they would really affect the psyche of all Americans.
And they would.
So I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't, I mean for now you're an island of peace, but... It would be a stab to the heart of the heartland.
Exactly.
So even Peoria is not, you know, you're at risk with the rest of us right now.
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that we weren't in with the rest of everybody.
But you are momentarily, at least, an island of peace, no question.
So what would you do?
Well, it just seems to me a megalomaniac would hate to see control slip away.
Sure.
Like if you did a wag the dog thing and put an artificial Bin Laden in a video or have him give out a message, then that would kind of flush out the real Bin Laden.
You know, he would have to make some contact in order to refute whatever was put out there.
Well, maybe we could put Al Jazeera's transmitters back together and broadcast a message from our fake Bin Laden.
That's not a half bad idea.
We just have to flush him out somehow.
What would you have the message be, just out of curiosity?
Well, it would have to be something that would be plausible to the Arab world.
Maybe something saying, hey, that bin Laden that's in Afghanistan is a fake put in there by the CIA.
You know, to create an artificial war between the Muslims and the Christians.
Well, no, wait a minute.
You can think past that one.
Why not go for something really good?
Get an exact, I mean, our government could do this, an exact bin Laden.
Just put him, you know, prop him up.
We've got lots of Hollywood people.
We put a cave there and we, you know, we also make up somebody to look like his exact lieutenant sitting by his side, as we always see him when he's broadcast.
And have him say, look, The bombing is horrible.
We are defeated.
Lay down your arms.
Now that would bring the real Bin Laden out real quick, wouldn't it?
He'd be getting his video camera out in seconds, I imagine.
Or I have had a message direct from Allah.
From Allah.
Lay down your arms.
The fight, the crusade is over.
Very good, sir.
I like it.
All right.
Take care.
That's a good one.
That really is a good one, and that really would bring Bin Laden out quick.
Can you imagine that?
Can you imagine how a megalomaniac, as he suggested, like Bin Laden, would react to such a message that would be indistinguishable from the real Bin Laden?
He'd be out there.
We'd see him with one of our satellites out there in front of a video camera, protesting like crazy.
East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
Hey, I'm glad to get a hold of you.
Glad you're on.
Hey, this is the Lion of the Ohio Valley.
Yes, sir.
I'm listening on WTAM out of Cleveland.
Oh, the big one.
Yeah.
Hey, listen.
I think people have to wake up and smell the coffee.
We're in a fight to the finish.
You know, these guys want to kill our children, our wives, our parents, everybody.
These guys aren't going to give up.
They have done so.
They've already done it.
They've already proven they'll do it, and obviously they'll do it again.
And they will do it again.
And what we have to do We quickly identified these terrorists that flew the planes.
So what we need to do is go after their family members.
And do what?
And kill the family members.
But you're not... Are you talking about family members of the guys who crashed the planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?
Exactly.
Well, I guess that would send a kind of a message.
That would send a message to The people that are thinking about doing more terrorist activity.
But you know what?
It would martyr them and, on top of that, the Islamic people would believe that the family members went directly to paradise.
Okay.
So it might not be effective.
Well, there's another point to that.
They do believe that by doing this terrorist activity that it also ushers their family into paradise.
However, if the weapon used to kill the family members are sprinkled with pig's blood, then that bars them from entering paradise.
That's pretty cold stuff.
Well, I mean, we're in a cold war, and you know, these guys are here, like the one guy said, they're in our backyards, and they want to come in our doors.
I wonder how much pig's blood a cruise missile could carry.
Well, I mean, it has to be sprinkled with pig's blood, you know what I'm saying?
It basically has to be contaminated with swine.
Well, but if you put enough pig's blood in a cruise missile, when it hit, it would sprinkle miles and miles around.
Right.
I mean, just whatever weapon is used, it has to be contaminated with pig's blood, and that would bar them from entering paradise.
And you know, if these family members get an idea, hey look, This guy's getting radical.
I think he's, you know, he's getting into this where he may become a terrorist.
This will put family pressure on these guys.
I do honestly wonder how they would react to something like that because it's certainly fightin' dirty, but in understanding what they are afraid of and what would cause psychological stress to them as they have caused to us, that's not bad in the scheme of things.
Yeah, we have to.
Instead of being the hunted, we have to become the hunters.
You know what a lot of people would say about killing the families of people who did this?
How unjust that would be.
That goes back to, remember, Sergeant York.
In World War I, he objected to killing people, but in the end, he did kill a few to save the many.
So basically, I think that by killing a few, it would actually save lives.
Well, yes, if you think as they do, which was your job tonight, because that's the most effective way to do this.
You're right on.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, thanks, sir.
Take care.
Cruise missiles with big explosive for the family members of those who ran into the World Trade Towers, sprinkled with pig's blood.
So they will not go to paradise, which is what we believe they believe.
Would it be so wrong to, in effect, psychologically torture them as they are psychologically torturing us?
I understand what a lot of you would say about killing family members.
The Russians did it.
It's the kind of thing we don't do.
But, you can't deny it might be effective.
Wes to the Rockies, you're on the air.
Yes, this is Orlin from Fraser Park, Southern California.
Hello, Orlin.
I suggest using the food as a weapon.
Food?
Yes.
Well, we're dropping, as you know, we're dropping large amounts of food, you know, to the refugees.
What we do is we take Paraquat or Agent Orange or 2,4-D or 2,4,5-T or whatever defoliant of the day you want to use.
Now, you understand they're already starving to death over there.
Yes.
And so you want to finish it off.
I want to tighten the noose.
In other words, just plain stop the food.
And when their bellies are growling loud enough, they'll come to the peace table.
Napoleon said the army travels on the stomach.
Well, you're absolutely right about that.
I mean, this is really radical, but of course, you're right.
You know what the trouble with that is?
The Taliban, the rulers, and the terrorists would eat until the very end, and everybody else in Afghanistan would die first.
Well, the families and the non-combatants would do their best to get out and they would go to the Northern Alliance area or Pakistan or whatever.
So in other words, make the country so damn uninhabitable that everybody except the very worst of them would leave.
That's right.
That's exactly it.
That has merit.
As the refugees came across where you could weed the Taliban out, And that would be a short-term solution and the long-term would be you put all of these in refugee camps.
We're feeding them anyway.
So we put a thing on there where if you want a ration of food, you're going to go to school.
And we give them a comprehensive education and show them what the rest of the world is like.
Change their attitude and their mind.
Well, the idea has merit, actually.
It really does.
I mean, you're right.
If you don't have food, you're facing a very serious situation very quickly.
All right, sir.
Thank you.
Okay.
Another good one.
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Alright, back into the night of ideas we go.
Asking you to think outside the box.
The question, the challenge is to think outside the box and I'll come up with a way, perhaps unconventional way, that we win this war.
And even the Pentagon has said, in an article a couple of days after I had this idea, or my guest did, or however we got it, that they want you to think outside the box.
Come up with what might be a crazy idea, and they just might implement it.
Cutting through all the red tape, And getting it done very quickly.
They are prepared to do... Obviously, they see the way it's going to go.
If we have to proceed conventionally, it's going to cost lives.
If we can come up with a really good idea to get the job done quickly, with little loss of life, they're all for it.
And I'm glad to hear it.
Here we go.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Yeah, this is James.
I'm in Largo, Florida, outside of Tampa.
Oh, yes, James.
I've had this idea for about an hour now, actually.
A whole hour?
About an hour, yeah.
Now, you know how the government is rumored to have aircraft cloaking technology?
Like the Aurora Project?
Oh, yes.
I'm not sure they do.
Well, it's a rumor.
This is theoretically impossible.
It's a safe bet, actually.
I'm just giving you kind of a background for what I'm going to say here.
Okay, what if we use a satellite or something of the sort to kind of project like a translucency or a deity In the general vicinity of where the Taliban or Al-Qaeda members, Osama Bin Laden, are suspected to be residing in.
You mean like Allah speaking in the sky?
Yes, Allah.
Kind of like Star Trek 5, if you've seen that.
Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so we have it direct them to a certain location of our choosing, like Kandahar or Kabul.
And once they're there... You mean the extremists?
To instruct them, to instruct the Al-Qaeda network or The Taliban, both.
The Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Just in the general vicinity.
Say if they didn't see it, they would catch word of it from the natives and the locals.
And it would direct them to a given location like Kandahar, Kabul.
In order to receive direct instructions from Allah?
Yes.
Yes.
You know, there's an important message.
It's imperative that you, you know, meet me at this location and I'll have a message for you.
Allah, right?
I gotcha.
Yeah.
And once they're there, we wipe them out.
Uh, with, uh, maybe also using a satellite.
I think you were talking about that a few days ago.
Or, uh, just a cruise missile.
Something like that.
And it would also send a message to the rest of the area.
It's not their question.
Don't you think, though, that they would be asking themselves, this is some kind of western technological trick?
Maybe, but they're also closed off from a lot of the media outlets.
So they're really, I think what is it, 70% of them are illiterate.
So maybe, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't.
I just, I guess it would depend.
It's a good point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really a good point.
And even if you didn't get all of them, you might get a healthy percentage of them.
Yeah.
I think they would really respond to it, perhaps.
I mean, if they saw something in the sky, like in the clouds and it looked like a lot of space, I mean, they'd be petrified.
I think they would, You could get my announcer, Ross Mitchell, to instruct them.
He could just speak without accent.
Yes, he must beat me at Kandahar.
I have a great message for you.
Exactly right, sir.
Can I say one more thing?
Sure.
I have a message for all of you, the peacemaking hippie throwbacks, about the violence now.
We didn't meet violence with violence in the past.
We had these attacks taken upon us, and that's what I believe led to September 11th, because they have no respect for us.
There's a saying, fear is respect, and they don't have respect for us because they do not fear us.
We haven't responded the way we should have in the past.
No, you're right.
I've got it.
I've got it, sir.
Thank you very much.
We should instill fear in them.
I really don't have a problem with that.
They are certainly doing that with us, aren't they?
They are terrorizing us.
And so I am not beyond terrorizing them.
I would rather restrict my terror To those responsible, or those extremists, but are the right kind of message in the sky, would go directly to that group, because they're the ones who would grasp it, right?
It's Allah.
Look at him, he's in the sky.
Maybe.
Wow, Cardline, you're on the air.
Hello.
Are you talking to me?
I am talking to you, yes.
Okay.
Where are you?
I'm in Minneapolis.
Alright, and your name is?
Janet.
Janet.
And what sort of idea do you have, Janet?
Well, I think that we need to look at the actual source and cause of the war and address that.
Say that again, please?
We need to address the cause Of the war.
The reason for the war.
What if the reason is just basically that Osama Bin Laden and company want us dead?
What if it turns out that's the reason?
That is not the reason.
No?
We are after power and control of their oil.
It's their oil and we're over there.
Well, we're buying it from them.
We're trying to get power over it so we can have it under our own conditions in their country.
Yeah, we need the oil.
Well, that's what I'm calling about.
You haven't had Stephen Greer on your program for a while.
Yeah, that's true.
He has accessed the information about free energy.
Well, I'm sorry to tell you this, my dear, but you're wrong.
Stephen Greer came on and announced to the world, indeed, that he had and would announce to the world this thing about free energy.
But he didn't do it.
He was personally disappointed and led astray.
Now, you didn't know that, I guess, huh?
I'm sorry, as far as I know, there is no free energy.
Stephen Greer honestly thought he was on to something really, really big.
But like all these free energy things, it evaporated into free air.
So we still need the oil.
Sorry about that.
That one won't work.
As I was saying the other day, I know a lot of people say, well, let's settle what they want.
They want us out of Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries, right?
And I say, on the one hand, we need the oil.
So put all the oil in one hand over here on the right, and on the left, put the life of Osama bin Laden and others.
And weigh the two.
Our need for oil, Osama's life.
Our need for oil, Osama's life.
Which hand becomes heavier to you?
On the international line, you are on the air.
Where are you calling from, please?
Sydney, Australia.
Sydney!
Wonderful to have you.
Yes, turn your computer, or whatever you have, it must be a computer, off, please.
Actually, I'm ringing because that last lady had just mentioned that You hadn't had a guest on for a long time, and it's slightly off track, but on the same track as well.
My father, Joseph D. Louise, I don't know if you'll remember him?
I do, yes.
Well, you had him on probably a year and a half or more ago, and when he was on, I don't know if you realize, Art, but he actually did predict that the White House was going to be bombed, and he said it would miss.
And you said, oh my God, that can't be true.
You know, he was telling me that all the psychics and everybody over there keep saying, nobody's predicted any of this would have happened, and I just thought I'd ring and say my dad had.
Yeah, the White House, though, of course, was not bombed.
He did say that they would miss.
But did he predict they would hit the World Trade Centers or the Pentagon?
He didn't do that.
He's not God.
But that was pretty good, actually, I think.
Well, not bad.
Listen to the tape.
January 12, 1999.
I will do that.
And also, as long as I have you, me and my husband actually think Osama Bin Laden is in Fiji.
Fiji?
You're right, he's not even in Afghanistan.
Fiji?
Fiji.
That's our hunch.
In fact, I even called the FBI and told them that.
You did?
Wait, wait, wait.
Let's try to get to the bottom of this.
Why do you think he's in Fiji?
Well, because he was on an airplane.
We were over there.
I'm thinking about one week before the 11th, and they sat right across from us, and my husband said to me... Excuse me, who sat right across?
These people that we think was Bin Laden and his wife and a kid.
You think you were on a plane with Bin Laden and his family?
I found you as crazy as everyone else that calls now.
And you were in Fiji?
It was a plane from Sydney to Fiji, and they were sitting right across from us.
I mean, you could tell they were very wealthy people.
She had all these jewels in her hair clip.
Now, Shirley, you have seen pictures of Bin Laden.
Yes, we have, and he looked like him.
He was dressed like it and everything.
And the funniest thing is, you see absolutely no Middle Eastern people at all over there.
I mean, it was so out of place.
The kid was dressed western, but they were dressed very western.
I don't suppose you got any photographs, did you?
Oh, no.
But I did like it that I called the FBI.
You know, who knows?
Out of curiosity, what did the FBI say?
They were rather interested.
They took the information and the flight number and the dates and all of that.
You know, it is kind of If you wanted to do something terrible like he did, you know, best to leave and go someplace completely different, and who would ever think Fiji?
Oh, you're right.
I mean, who would?
Not me.
Alright, thank you very much.
Somebody actually called the FBI with a tip that they had flown with Bin Laden and family to Fiji.
That would be something, wouldn't it?
The Taliban, of course, is still saying that he's alive and in Afghanistan, and I believe that we have officially said that he's in Afghanistan, but who's to really say?
He could have been on that flight to Fiji.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello?
Yes, sir.
Yes, I have an idea that actually came from one of your earlier callers, one who wanted to use the dogs with the explosives on it.
Yes, exploding dogs and cats, I might add.
What is your first name?
Mark.
I'm calling from Austin, Texas.
Okay, Mark.
Well, I don't believe in exploding dogs, but I was thinking that you know how they use dogs to sniff luggage and trucks nowadays?
Of course.
Well, we could train dogs to, you know, sniff out explosives and gunpowder, and then we could, you know, give them to the soldiers for use in the caves.
It would help isolate out where the Taliban are.
And with that, we could bypass a lot of the normal citizens and get right to the Taliban.
So you're not going for Bow Wow Boom, but Bow Wow Sniffing for explosives, you like that?
Like how police dogs and airport security dogs do nowadays, I don't see why... But you've been to an airport where you've had a dog search your luggage, right?
Yes, I have.
Okay, well, I think most of us have.
They've got to get pretty close to the luggage.
Before they can detect the scent.
The explosives, yes.
But you could also do it to have them hunt out specific people.
And for that, all you'd need is, like, you know, get an article of their clothing or something.
But what about the theory that if we can get close enough to get an article of their clothing, we can snuff them?
That's true.
Okay.
Also, I had a question for you really quick, if you don't mind.
Sure.
Earlier this week, you mentioned something about hearing a sound on the ham radio, like a beeping sound?
Oh, not a beeping sound, sir.
Like sweeping radar.
Not just like it.
In fact, I believe it is sweeping radar, and it's being heard from 2 MHz, or it was, through 16 MHz.
A number of people have said, well, maybe it's the AWACS planes, the UNAWACS planes that are now over America.
But I don't think so.
He's not used on those frequencies, or at least it never has been, so I don't know what the hell's going on.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much.
Thank you for taking my call.
Uh, thank you.
It is downright weird.
From about 2 to 16 megahertz, or maybe even higher, there's a broad radar sweep going on.
It's really, really, really weird.
I'm sure it's militarily related in some way, but I would love to know what it is.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hi, this is James from Peoria.
Yes, James.
Oh, Peoria again.
The west side of Peoria, Arizona.
I think that we ought to find the general area where he's at and plant three nukes around his area.
And with as unstable as that land is over there, once they come running out like ants, our aircraft could just spray the rest of them down.
That ain't buried.
You mean you would use the nukes to drive them out of the caves?
We'd bury the nukes so that it wouldn't be an upground explosion.
So they would think, well now that's underground nukes.
That's maybe doable.
So they would think there was an earthquake going on.
I'm sure it would probably make one.
If it didn't collapse, you know, we could spray them down, just hose them down with the aircraft.
You know, that also has some Merit.
I wonder... Yeah, I wonder what they do.
If you're in a cave and a big earthquake starts, the natural... The natural thing you would do would be to get the hell out of that cave.
Oh, yeah.
And, uh... Can I mention something about your music?
Is it cool?
Sure.
But, uh... King Floyd has an album saucer full of secrets.
Yeah?
And it's got some awesome head music on it.
Okay.
Saucer full of secrets, as opposed to secrets about saucers.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
It is a real pleasure to speak to you.
Glad to have you.
Where are you?
This is Eric in Los Angeles.
Yes, sir.
Well, I think I have an idea that you would like.
I think it's very possible, and I also think that it may Not only be the quickest way, but perhaps the only way to win this war.
Alright.
Because I think we can't win by killing them.
They only get angrier and more determined.
Well, no.
People who are dead don't get angry, at least on this side.
Well, I think that when we kill them, and particularly innocents, Oh, you mean those who survive?
We do tend to help them enlist other fanatics.
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, so in other words, you just deepen the, we're going to kill a hundred of you for one of us.
Right.
Well, that's on the one side.
And on the other side, I also believe strongly that we don't win the war by being nice to them.
I mean, that's obvious.
They've already taken advantage of our vulnerability.
So, this is the idea.
I think that What we have to do is to dismantle their cosmology, which leads them to kill with impunity.
In what way?
This is what you're going to like, I think.
With disclosure.
Disclosure.
It's something that we have the capacity to do.
I think that we You mean we could, uh, we could, and if necessary, we could actually fake an alien invasion?
Well, no.
I think that we present evidence that we have, um, we get on with it, and, um... But we can't, sir, we can't even get our own government to believe that.
Well, this is true, we do, I agree.
But how about... But I think that this is their ace in the hole.
How about a full-scale alien invasion?
Well, I don't think that we can...
Oh, yes, we could do that, even if we were Orson Welles.
But I do think that it's something that the government probably won't consider.
But when you're asking about things that are out of the box, I think that's out.
But I also think, in a way, it's in the art bell box.
This is an idea.
Well, it shows you how far the art bell box is from the government's box.
Well, yes, but it also shows how rational the Ark Bell Box is and how... Well, I kind of like your idea, but I want to twist it a little and create an alien invasion.
Well, I suppose we could do that, too.
Well, we could.
We absolutely could.
We could make them think War of the Worlds is underway.
That'd bring them out of their caves.
Well, I suppose that could be a propaganda attack.
Yeah.
Alright, well I do like the idea that we can present them with hard, cold evidence, and really, over time.
I like your idea, but I just don't think we could get them to believe.
Again, we can't get our own government to believe it, right?
Fine.
The idea, if twisted just a little bit, has serious merit.
An alien invasion?
I like it.
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Art sent in massive amounts of hookers to overcome these sexually repressed morons.
Wildcard line?
No, first-time caller line.
You're on the air.
Good evening, Art.
Hello.
This is Doug from Denver.
Yes, Doug.
My idea is a little less humanitarian than some of the other ones, but here goes.
All right.
What I would do is, since our enemy likes the idea of becoming a suicide bomber, I'd take it and put a little bit of a twist to it.
I would capture Taliban fighters and non-invasively Well, I've seen where heads blow up.
It's terrible.
It's in some movies.
Yeah, I mean, it would definitely freak them out if they're living in a cave there, you know, along with their pals, having a bowl of yogurt, when suddenly your buddy sitting next to you's turban blows off.
Wow, just blows off right off.
You know, they'd probably consider that to be an action from Allah.
Exactly.
And even you could implant, if you wanted to get really nasty, some anthrax spores in there.
Well, I think that would seem too earthly, for one thing.
When you blow up a person's head, it has a definite psychological effect on the person, as you point out, eating yogurt next door.
It would probably do the trick.
Okay.
Alright, sir.
Thank you very much.
Exploding heads.
You've got to admit, on the terror scale, Exploding Heads is way up there.
Way, way up there.
Anthrax is bad.
Exploding Heads are even worse.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Yes, good morning, sir.
This is Michael from just over the hill in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Ah, yes.
I'm listening to you on 720 AM KDWN Talk of the West.
Where I spent a full decade.
That was your original home, wasn't it?
That's right.
Well, I have an idea.
It wouldn't really kill a lot of people, but I think it would bring much terror and confusion.
Well, effectiveness counts.
Yeah, and I think it might be effective if we infiltrated one of their greatest weaknesses, which I think is their food supply.
And if we wasted somehow their food and possibly even water supply with good old-fashioned military-grade LSD.
Oh my.
Yeah.
LSD.
And it would pretty much bring down their entire system.
I think it could cause a massive collapse and their propaganda machine would disappear.
Political machine?
I don't know.
If we did this on a continual basis for a while, I don't see how they could mount an army.
How would you be sure, though, that the right bad guys got the LSD versus the women and children that are starving over there now?
Well, that's the bad thing.
Almost everybody would probably have to get it for it to be effective, although... So there would be collateral hallucinogenic damage?
Yeah, there would be a damage although they would possibly live and many of the other alternatives I'm hearing, the regular people aren't going to live through that.
So it's a possibility.
It might bring everybody out.
Certainly even the regular folks would possibly think thoughts that they've never thought before or were even allowed to think before.
It might change their Entire strategy or their mode of thinking?
Might do that.
Alright, thank you very much.
I don't rule that out.
After all, they tested LSD on our own here, right?
LSD has a very profound effect, indeed, on people.
The only problem would be how you would get it in only the food going to the bad guys.
Otherwise, most of Afghanistan would be going on one big trip.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Yes.
This is Richard from Seguin, Texas.
Hello, Richard.
How you doing?
Listen, you remember that movie, The Dirty Dozen with Lee Marvin and Telly Savalas?
I've seen it many times.
You know, they were in prison, military prison, but they had a chance to redeem themselves.
Yes.
I think we'll pull out all the defrocked creatures like Jimmy Swagger and Tammy and Jimmy Baker.
I mean, and I see Louis Farrakhan was in Cassius Clay.
And uh, maybe that, what's that other guy that, Falwell and them?
Yeah, and uh, let's see.
There's Terror and then there's Over the Top, sir.
Come on.
Yeah, but I know what I was going to say.
We'll send them all to that clergy that person had the other idea with a case of Tang, each one of them.
Tang?
Tang.
And some good clear water and let them drink it and show them how good it is.
And tell them the next time any anthrax or any Give them 48 hours or anything if we can get a bad toe nail over here or something.
We're going to fly over some, not crop dusters, but you know those things that fight the forest fires on the west coast loaded with tang and some of them are going to be loaded with freeze-dried pig blood.
And you know what, they're very afraid of... Well, how would Tang terrorize them?
Well, put pig blood in it.
This lady had called in to... You mean Tang and pig blood?
Yeah, but let them drink the regular.
Just tell them they wouldn't know which one it was in, is what I'm saying.
If you do this, you can't go to paradise.
I'm not sure that Tang has a big market there, nor that they have much of a taste for Tang.
Yeah, but let them see what I was trying to say.
It could be something else.
It could be the lynch or oranges.
Let them drink it, the clergy, so they would know how it would feel when they drank it.
Pure now, nothing with anything in it.
Next time you do something to us, they don't care about this life, right?
They want to go to Allah.
If you do anything to us, we're going to come over with these, like the ones that put out the forest fires.
There are some firemen that are very unhappy with what you all did to us in New York, and they're willing to come over and fly with these, not crop dusters, but where they drop these buckets of Some kind of that they could smell it and inhale it.
I've got it.
All right.
All right.
Thank you very much.
I think I've got the message there.
A Tang attack.
I don't know.
I don't know what you never know.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, this is Tom, listening to you on KEX.
Hi, Tom, in Portland, huh?
Yeah, I started off with five ideas, and now I'm down to two.
You mean your ideas have been taken?
Yeah, well, I've got two ideas.
One of them... Did they just leave you with, like, the dregs?
No, these are pretty good.
Alright.
These are pretty good.
Anyway, start off with a bunker buster.
Yes.
And take out the 10,000 pounds worth of high explosives and put sugar in it.
Sugar?
Yeah.
And then drop these at the headwaters of their aquifers.
And then put red algae in the... You mean give them sugar water?
No, you get them contaminated water in their aquifer.
Sugar water?
No!
Red algae will grow underwater.
You're putting the sugar in there as a nutrient.
As a nutrient.
And then the red algae comes, and it eats the sugar.
And it contaminates all of their wells.
From the top of the headwaters, all the way to the ocean.
Their water would turn red.
Would turn poisonous.
And red.
And red.
Well, that's one idea.
The bottom line is, you're the guy that's saying... Turning water red, sir, has biblical Applications, yes.
The idea is that if your well goes bad, you're done.
You can have all the food in the world, but you've got to have your two gallons of water a day.
Water is absolutely critical.
Right, and so that would drive them over the border and that's where you've set up your schools.
How would you get rid of it, though, after you were done?
Well, it will wash out, but the thing is that for about three or four years, and I'm not talking about one, I'm talking about, you know, put down three or four hundred of these bunker busters, send them down a thousand feet into the ground.
Maybe if we took my last caller's idea about Tang and simply turned all of their water, including their well water, into Tang, they would throw up their hands and run out.
Well, that's possible.
The other idea is for Bush to get on the horn and bottom line say, look, Afghanistan, if we go to war with you, there will be no Afghanistan when we're done.
We're going to give this part to Pakistan, we're going to give this part to Iran, we're going to give this part to Maybe just Russia.
Maybe just holding a big meeting, sir, with a lot of nations getting together and carving up Afghanistan.
Absolutely.
And basically telling them, look, you have your country now.
Either back off and shut up, or if we're successful, either you will beat us, or there will be no Afghanistan.
We're going to give them peace to Uzbekistan.
Right.
And we're going to tell Iran that, hey, look, this is not a holy war.
This has never been about the Holy War.
This is... We are... We are done and we are pissed.
Yeah.
And the bottom line is... I've got it, sir.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
I've got it.
Divide them up.
That would be an unnerving thing, wouldn't it?
To see a world body meeting to divide you up.
When you thought you had fought for a revolution that you had won.
Evil as it is.
Women suppressing and torturing as it is.
They do have it.
It would be unnerving to see your little empire carved up, wouldn't it?
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Yes.
My name is Jim.
Yes, Jim.
I'm a ham radio operator and my idea is to let some of the American people colonize Afghanistan.
If they want to live with us, so... Well, I've seen a lot of pictures now of Afghanistan.
That's one country I've never been to, but I've seen a lot of pictures, and from what I've seen, a lot of times, I don't think Americans would exactly want to go over there.
I mean, frankly, when they show scenes of Kandahar and other areas, prior to our bombing, before we began bombing, it looked like it had been bombed already.
No, I was kind of wondering mostly what we're dropping our bombs on, short of tanks and, you know.
Well, they say they want to move to Arizona.
If it's like Arizona, we may want to move there.
All right, sir.
Thank you very much.
Colonize.
Maybe go back to the old days, like in, what was it, the 1800s, wasn't it?
When the land rushes and races and grabs and you could get yourself Piece of land and a mule and whatever.
And sort of build... Maybe we could build apartments.
The Israelis are good at doing that, building on new land.
We could enlist the Israelis to help us and they would simply build Afghanistan into a bedroom community.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
My name is Matt.
Yes, you're on a cell phone.
Yes.
And somewhat distorted, but proceed.
Okay.
Am I on now?
Yes.
Okay.
My name is Mel.
I'm from your ground zero in New York City.
I'm a limo driver.
I like your show.
I love your show.
Thank you, but listen.
You've got a real bad connection.
Can you hear me?
Well, yeah.
It sounds like you're shouting.
Stop shouting.
Can you hear me?
That's so much better.
Yes.
Okay.
My suggestion out of the box.
Yes.
Some of the guys stole my thunder.
But anyway, pork bellies.
Pork bellies.
From the planes drop off all over Afghanistan.
Boy, I'll tell you.
All right, sir.
I thank you.
Yes, we had that one, of course.
Pork bellies.
Pork bellies are a very volatile thing to jump into, right?
A lot of people have lost or made a lot of money in pork bellies.
And if the Defense Department decided to go with the pork belly offensive, boys and people could make some money in the market if they knew about that one.
Wes of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
I have an idea about the post office.
Our post office?
Our post office.
Yes.
Not our post office, our postal system.
Yes.
Can you imagine having to open an account with them?
Is that an idea, or what?
You know, by God, that is an idea, sir.
I know that people would say, It's a terrible idea, because it would infringe on their freedoms.
In other words, I can hear that scream as you say that.
However, you really, honestly, have got a point.
I mean, here we've got the Postal Workers Union threatening to actually close down the mail in a couple of major cities.
That's real serious stuff.
Yeah, Antrax pretty much ends our freedoms.
You're damn right it is.
And so, registering to use the U.S.
mail system... And having electronic ATM-type That's a pretty good idea.
That's a pretty doggone good idea.
How do you come up with that?
Well, I've been listening to all your callers tonight, and they're all great ideas, but they're not practical.
And I'm scared to death of anthrax, and so is everybody else, and it just seems to me that That's our first line of defense is here.
Of course, I suppose if they wanted to, they could still assume or steal somebody's identity and send their nastiness that way.
But your idea really does have a lot of merit.
I mean, it would make everything so traceable.
Yeah, instead of this mailbox on the corner somewhere.
And all those blue boxes on the street corners would have to go.
Pretty interesting stuff, sir.
I'm going to chew that one over.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Take care.
All right.
Register to use the mail.
Imagine, he said, if you had to register to use the mail.
Huh.
You know, some of you are amazing thinkers.
And I understand the civil libertarians and how they're going to feel about such an idea.
But it's not bad.
It's really not bad.
If this trouble with our mail system continues to worsen, that might be something somebody would embrace.
Very, very good.
Wow, Cortland, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Yes.
Finally gotcha.
Yes, you do.
I got the butte.
All right.
Now, this is gonna appeal to your reptilian and also your, oh, experience in radio.
All right.
And all you need Turbine generators, fuel supply, oscillator, and power amplifiers.
Now these power amplifiers would have to put out, oh, somewhere, I figure, in the neighborhood of 100,000 watts.
Yes.
The oscillator is tuned in at about 57 cycles.
56 to 57 cycles.
How really irritating.
The human body resonates at that frequency.
Yes.
Have a directional horn.
Sound horned out there.
And you could either turn it up and you'll see little puffs of red goo out there in front of it, or for your peace bubba, turn it down low enough that you could go up there and... So basically the first higher powered version would vibrate people to death, to red goo as you put it?
Yeah.
I see.
And then at a lesser setting?
Well, what's the setting?
You'd probably go up there and find them staring at the stars.
And, uh, do what you will.
Turn them into slaves, send them around all the hog farmers, and let them use them as workhands.
Now, basically, you're suggesting that we microwave people.
No.
Well, I mean, it is that.
I mean, it's a sound deal.
Now, I know they've experimented with it.
The human body resonates at 57 to 56 cycles, and that's the sound that you put out.
I've heard that that would, um, Actually cause people to get in fights, cause people to socially disintegrate, all that kind of thing.
And explode them.
Well, and it's disrupting the body too.
There would be some that you would explode.
They could probably even end up fighting amongst themselves.
But you could do it at a safe distance, remote control it, and as one of your listeners said, also use infrared, seek them out, get up to a cave, put that sound into the cave, no problem.
Gotcha, sir.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Have a good morning.
If we could get Bin Laden in Vegas.
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We are thinking out of the box.
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There's this lady that I've seen about four or five times in my lifetime.
She's tall and skinny.
She's got on some tight blue jeans, some Indian moccasins.
She's got on a rainbow striped poncho and a little flop hat.
I saw this woman when I was about eight or nine.
I saw her again.
I was living in Dallas, Texas.
I was on the bus and she was standing outside.
Did she look like she aged?
No.
And here's the crazy thing.
About five years ago, me and two of my brothers, we all went on a cruise to St. Thomas down in the very
south.
Oh, no, don't tell me.
We got on one of these little jitney buses.
And my brother, he said, see that lady over there?
So we saw that lady in Jacksonville.
Last November, my brother died.
He had surgery.
He was getting ready to eat his breakfast and everything.
And he said, oh!
He said, I gotta get off the phone.
He said, I got company.
He said, you know the lady we saw down in St.
Thomas?
He said, she's sitting over there in the chair.
He said, let me talk to her and I'll call you back.
Fifteen minutes later, my niece called back.
He was dead.
He was dead.
She was dead.
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Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from October 26th, 2001.
Here we go into that uncertain night once again.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Out of the box thinking is what I hope you're about to give us.
Is that me?
That's you.
How you doing, Art?
Okay.
I really enjoy your show.
Thank you.
Where are you?
I'm in San Diego.
Okay.
The thing that I was thinking is, the simplest thing has been overlooked.
I believe that we have to show conviction and show the people that we're right and we have to send ground forces in Obviously nuclear, if we try to be, if we really try to determine what's going to do this.
I don't believe that the nuclear is going to be the solution, although that would be the easiest for us because of the lives that it would cost.
Well, you know, here's something for sure.
We know that the Taliban, the top leaders, Al-Qaeda, probably even Bin Laden, is with the people.
They're mixing in in the cities.
With people, and that's going to mean urban warfare.
That's going to be one bad fight.
If you've got to go in and go house to house and dig these people out, you're going to lose a lot of men.
Very true, but at the same time, the thing that worries me the most is the message that we're sending children and the message that you send the world.
It's unfortunate what has happened.
I believe that we've gotten to a point where we have to say, this is what we believe, not only do we feel that we're right, but we're willing to put our lives on the line to show that we're right.
Well, I think that is exactly what our president said, and in fact, I think that's what we're doing.
I sure hope so.
My only worry is, I'm 29 years old, and I would like to get involved, but I'm afraid It'll be a Vietnam-type thing, where there's a restricted warfare, where you can't fly over here, you can't do that, because they're worried about the media saying that they hit a Red Cross tower.
If we put a General Patton-type leader in that area, I don't think America's going to have any problem.
I know we're not going to have any problem.
Well, listen, let me say this for the President.
We're the President with Colin Powell.
I don't think you're going to have any problem.
I think that the lesson was learned in Vietnam very well indeed.
And whatever we decide to do, it's going to be all the way.
I feel like doing something, but nothing's happened, so I feel like helpless.
Well, remember, remember.
Nothing's happened that you've seen, but there's a lot going on in Afghanistan right now.
Some pretty dark stuff, I'm sure, on our part.
Believe me.
I think we're in there doing the job.
We'll find out later.
It may be a decade before we really know what went on, but you can bet they're in there playing for keeps.
I sure hope so.
I enjoy your show a lot.
Thank you, and take care.
Yeah.
There are things going on in Afghanistan right now that we will not know about.
Even a decade may pass and we will not know about it.
But we know how to play for peeps.
Believe me.
These are the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi.
Hey, I hope you and your family are doing well this morning.
Thank you.
Before I make my suggestion, I was wondering, I sent you some snail mail the latter part of August.
My name is Glenn from South Texas and it was a picture of a tornado demon.
Could you possibly recall that?
I think there's a high probability that your mail is in the great holding pen of mail that nobody wants to open right now.
I'm sorry about that.
In a way, it was really, really, really fortunate for us.
Not for you, certainly.
We were so backed up with mail.
You know, we get bins and bins and bins and bins of mail.
And we were so backed up that when we finally decided that we're not going to open mail, we thought, oh God, we've got a lot of mail sitting there.
So, it's horrible.
I'm sorry.
It's just, I don't know what to do.
Okay.
Here we go.
Let me see.
The one thing the area has is Far East in that region of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan and the other stands that I can't remember has an abundance of gypsum, limestone, shale and I think what we ought to do is pull an Emperor Hadrian on them.
In return for government subsidies and aid and what not.
Unless the contractors put millions of people to work and employ millions of people and wall them in where we can.
Wall them in?
Wall them in.
Build a giant wall?
Yeah, a platoon of soldiers.
Would you build it around all of Afghanistan?
No, just in the areas that would keep them from leaving.
And then local troops?
There is a psychology to walls.
The minute you put a wall up, particularly revolutionary type people, want to either cross that wall and or knock it down.
There's something about walls.
Well, I do have one more suggestion.
Sure.
I think we could put the Pope, Jerry Falwell, the Dalai Lama, and uh... bin laden together in a uh... texas death match and uh... the winner would uh... would uh... psychically and uh... will the others into submission and we would see how long that would take it could be a pay-per-view event thank you very much for the call
The Pope's not up to it, so forget that.
We need to have a new, younger Pope first.
He's not up for it.
You see, Pappy doesn't look too good these days.
However, you know, the old idea of getting the leaders of warring nations together and letting them duke it out has some sort of... It does give pleasure.
You know, instead of sending the nations young, as we always have to, to have a prearrange... It's kind of like the old duel.
Right?
The Texas Duel.
But you and I both know that's never going to happen.
It's just a pleasing thing to think about.
What's to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hi Art.
My name is Terri and I'm calling from Pacifica, California and we have an out-of-the-box idea.
Oh good.
There must be more than you there.
Yes.
We enjoy listening to your program and the guys before you, and we want to do our part and share with what we think of, and we think we have a pretty good idea.
Okay, lay it on me.
I know that right now the Taliban are supposedly in the homes of the Afghan people, but we're thinking if it does end up going to the hills, You know, what's a good way to track them down?
Yes.
And we're trying to think of a way where we're going to have minimal, you know, minimal loss of life for the American, you know, people that are over there fighting.
And we figure we can round up a bunch of cave bats, let them go in the hills, you know, with little homing devices on them.
They'll instinctively go for the caves.
And, you know, we can hit the caves where they go.
So, in other words, you know, that's kind of an interesting idea.
Bats would naturally seek out caves.
So if you put homing devices on them... And then the troops can track the homing devices where the bats go.
And whether the Taliban are there or not, You're either killing the Taliban, or you're going to kill or stop a hiding place from where they could go.
God, that's good.
That really is good.
And of course, if you could get a really, really high explosive that a bat could carry.
I wasn't hot on the dogs and cats earlier, but bats.
You could probably sacrifice a bat.
I mean, you just find them anywhere.
Not only that, but every time that Osama and his lieutenants looked up, They wouldn't know whether it was one of our bats or one of their bats.
It's a natural, instinctive thing that happens, that occurs, so they wouldn't know that we're doing this.
I like it.
I had seen on the news that they were using flashlights to point out to where they were going to hit the target.
Well, this is kind of in the same general thinking.
Well, they use laser designators, yes, and they paint a target.
God, that's really good.
Thank you very much.
Okay, thank you.
See you later.
Right, that's a good one.
She really is right about that.
Bats would seek out caves.
And if you put locator beacons, and we've got plenty of satellites that could tell you where that bat is going, The signal might disappear at that point, but it would be obvious, or at least highly probable, that they went into a cave.
God, that's a good idea.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is Stuart from Talkeetna, Alaska.
Hi, Stuart.
Art, I have a suggestion, and then I have a question I'd like to ask you, if that's alright.
Perhaps.
The suggestion is the gentleman with the idea of spraying LSD all around a specific area was quite right.
It would make urban warfare easier.
And it wouldn't be toxic to the civilians.
But the part he left out is after everybody is loaded, we dress our combat troops as Vestal Virgins.
Oh, my God.
They go in, the Arab fighters think they're already in heaven, and here come the virgins.
All right, my question, Art... They'd have to be in platoons of 70.
Really?
Oh, you know, by the way, if they get, what was it, 72 virgins?
Most of our Special Forces wouldn't come off well as Vestal Virgins.
You know, but we could use real virgins.
That's true, if we could find any.
That's very, very true.
I don't know if I want this call to proceed from here or not.
I'll change the topic.
Okay.
Okay, given a certain allotment of festal virgins, I think it was 72.
Yes.
What do the boys there do on the evening of the 73rd day?
I don't know, sir.
Goodbye.
You couldn't leave it alone, could you?
Wild Card Line, you are on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
Hi.
Where are you, sir?
Youngstown, Ohio.
Okay.
My idea is this.
I think Dr. Bloom, your guest the other night, had it right.
The Inquirer is brilliant because we have an educated public who buys it and believes most of the stuff in it, which is mostly unbelievable.
The Inquirer, though, would know how to do that the right way.
yes different phases the first one being that osama bin laden is secretly a christian and having
is in touch with christian leaders and that starts to work on the in mind the
inquirer though would know how to do that the right way now that now now this is really good because
for one thing the inquirer along with others were what was a target
Uh, yes.
I mean, they have reason for vengeance, and so the Inquirer could write this one up like nobody's business.
Oh, absolutely.
They could have these people believing it up and down.
Yes, sir.
And also, the second phase would be to put pictures, anything that could be done, pictures of a llama, made up like a woman with the wigs, surrounded by Attractive men, because homosexuality there is punishable by death.
I'm sure it is.
And just a blitzkrieg for weeks, and it would start to work.
You have heard, sir, maybe with the line you're on, you're going to like this.
You maybe perhaps have not heard about this.
It's going around on the internet.
It is suggested that we find Osama Bin Laden.
Not an easy job, but when we find him, instead of killing him or bringing him back here for international trial in jail, that we snap him up, whisk him out of the country, put him through a fast sex change operation, and drop him back into country.
Yeah, I've heard that on your show.
And I'm not against that, but my point, the basic thing with my point is that with these flyers, things start to work on people's minds.
Like a blitzkrieg.
Oh, they do.
And I'm sure the Inquirer could turn them out one after another after another until Osama would throw up his hands.
Well, hopefully his followers would start abandoning him if they started believing it.
Well, they could begin accusing him of affairs, cheating on his 5,000 wives.
Or they could say that he hired men to father his children because he was like a woman.
Oh, God.
Goodbye, sir.
Okay.
Right.
Goodbye.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hi, Art.
This is Gary of KTRS St.
Louis.
Yes, sir.
St.
Louis.
Yes.
I had three quick ideas.
All right.
One would be to give them weapons, but give them weapons that were booby-trapped so that they kind of blew their self up.
Trying to use them against us.
Booby-trapped weapons.
Collision of coughs that backfire.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Another idea I had was two ideas, actually.
Fake intelligence.
Tell them we're going to be over here or something.
That they come to a certain location.
Rather than go after them, have them come to us.
Better yet, sir, how about Kalushnikovs that blow up?
Exactly.
Another idea I had was maybe, like, implant them, like, implant them with a tracking device, then turn them loose or let them, quote-unquote, escape, and you can at least root out where they're headed back to.
Just a couple ideas or a few.
What did you think of the lady with the The bat idea.
That was pretty cool.
Bats go to caves, right?
That's a real good idea.
Homing devices on bats.
That was an excellent idea.
God, it really was.
Alright, thank you very much.
Take care.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
No, you're not.
You're not on the air.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Well, I'll be darned.
I didn't think I'd ever get through.
Well, you're darned.
Hey Art, this is Norm.
I'm in Sisters, Oregon.
Yes, sir.
Do you have an idea?
Well, yeah, I do.
Yes?
Hang on.
I'm a little nervous here.
First time caller and all.
Take a deep breath.
Go ahead.
Take a deep breath.
Okay.
No, no.
Take a deep breath.
I want to hear it.
Am I supposed to let it out?
Yeah, that's right.
Take a deep breath.
What we should do is, instead of dropping bombs and food on them, we should drop Playboys in Penthouse, Budweiser, Jack Daniels, and take all the dope that we got in all the cop shops around the country and subvert the youth of their country.
Well, they already, uh, nobody much uses dope there, you see.
Well, because they can't get it there!
They manufacture the dope there, sir.
It's one of the top heroin-producing areas of the world.
Well, they don't use the heroin, but, you know, they don't grow dope, you know, they can't get whiskey there, they can't get porn there, they don't let it into their country.
Now, whiskey and porn has, uh, potential.
Well, there you go.
And while we're at it, while we're at it, we can drop off a few million copies of Cosmopolitan, Playgirl, and some lingerie for the women.
All right, we'll particularly bear that one in mind.
I don't think you can go from the veil to lingerie.
Well, maybe you can.
That really would have an effect on them, wouldn't it?
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26th, 2021 Are you thinking out of the box?
You certainly are!
Fascinating program.
Actually, a lot of really, significantly good ideas tonight.
Really good idea.
Now we take you back to the night of October 26th, 2001 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
time.
you Al in Tucson, Tucson Al says, Hey Art, telemarketers find everyone!
This is a fast blast.
They do find every telemarketers do.
Tell Bin Laden he's won an all-expense-paid trip to Mecca and just pick him up at the airport.
G. Al, where'd you hear about that one?
First time call or line or on the air?
Art?
Yes?
Big fan.
New Canaan, Connecticut.
Art, we love you in the tri-state area.
You're always the subject of conversations.
New York, New Jersey, Connecticut.
First, some of the most unbelievable Military maneuvers ever pulled off by the United States government, our special forces, is actually a collection of it on a website.
If you want it, it's great.
It's t-r-p- I'll give you my idea anyway.
First of all, we call a press conference, the government, United States government, and we declare Afghanistan an open country.
Then we round up all the illegal immigrants in America, and we send them to Afghanistan, and we let them all in that country.
T-R-P dot O-R-N.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, I can't?
No.
Don't do that?
No.
No, don't do that.
I think I get all of our illegal immigrants there.
Put them in there, declare Afghanistan.
A open country, and this way we destroy their culture, and they don't destroy ours.
There is some merit in that, as a means to destroy a culture.
There's two ways about it, sir.
Thank you very much.
He's right about that.
Now, I'm not sure that America destroys cultures, but you could do it.
You really could do it.
Uh, theirs is an extremely strict, uh, culture.
Very, very, very strict.
And if they were sufficiently overwhelmed with cultural misfits, it would have a very, uh, a very derogatory effect on, on, on, on their ongoing situation there.
Probably be a slaughter, though.
Slaughter.
A wild card line?
You're on the air.
Hi.
Art Austin here in Flagstaff.
Yes.
The previous caller, I think, was almost in the right direction.
I've been thinking hyper-dimensionally here about how to take advantage of this situation to clear up all of our Middle Eastern problems and when fell swoop.
We've got an Afghanistan situation where there really isn't a government.
I mean, they were only recognized by Pakistan.
Everybody else has withdrawn any recognition from them.
Sure.
We don't want to get a lot of Americans killed.
We do want to take the Taliban down.
Correct.
We've got the Palestinians clamoring for a homeland.
The Israelis don't want them on their doorstep.
Yes.
Fine.
The UN convenes.
We now designate Afghanistan as the new Palestinian homeland.
We arm them, we send them in, we let them take care of the Taliban, and now they're no longer where they can threaten Israel.
It's a wonderful, wonderful idea, which was actually thought of earlier in the program.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Declare it the new Palestinian homeland.
And let the Palestinians go get it.
Well, I guess some of us are thinking along that line.
When you get outside the box, sir, you run into other people out there.
All right, thank you very much for the call, and take care.
Yeah, that's not altogether a bad idea.
We consider the Taliban to be an illegitimate government.
And the country is virtually destroyed now.
Declare it a Palestinian homeland.
Then the Taliban really has a problem.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Robert Walton, Pennsylvania, listening to WKST Radio.
Welcome.
Thank you.
That idea with the bats was an excellent idea.
Yes, it was.
The idea I had is if they have to fight in the streets, if they're going to use germ warfare against us, we could use it in a milder form.
We could use, you know, give them a flu of some sort, inoculate our troops, make them sick enough to where they're incapacitated to fight.
Which would make things, you know, a great deal easier.
Do you think if we nail down those who have sent the weapons grade anthrax, might as well call it what it is, all over the place in Washington and New York, if we nail down who did that, are we morally justified ourselves in using some kind of germ warfare?
Well, I think we are as long as, you know, we can use it In some kind of controlled fashion.
That's the problem with Gerald Walter.
There was a guy who called earlier who said, who really had a cool idea.
He said, capture one of Bin Laden's children and get a real good take on the genetics of the Bin Laden family.
Right.
And then release something that just goes after that genetic code.
Well, you know, this is the thing.
I think all of that's in the realm of possibility.
If you have to go after these people in villages, I don't know whether you could use some sort of mob gas on them that wouldn't kill them, wouldn't incapacitate them, or use some sort of terror warfare.
Another thing is when we take prisoners, if we export, send them to another country, if they could use hypnotics on them, if you got these guys really blasted on LSD, And let them think, you know, hallucinate that they're in Mecca, they're before Allah, and they're recounting their victories and how they did this.
You'd get a lot of information on them.
And actually, sending people on an unexpected trip is something that under normal circumstances we would never consider.
But you know what?
In a situation like this, the idea has a serious amount of merit.
And another thing is, if those bats go into caves, I wonder what you could infect them with to carry into the caves?
Well, it's hard to give a bat anything it probably already doesn't have, but your idea, again, has merit.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Bats.
What a wild idea.
What a totally wild idea.
Now, there have been a number of ideas tonight that I do think people in the Defense Department should begin to actively consider.
That's definitely one of them.
Well, welcome to the Rockies.
You're on the air.
Hi.
Oh, hi.
This is Victor in Redondo Beach listening on KFI.
The mighty KFI 640 in L.A.
Yes, sir.
Well, the bat thing, I don't know if you know it, has already been tried by the U.S.
against Japan in World War II.
You've never heard about that?
Well, I know that we certainly had a lot of intense, terrible battles on the island of Okinawa trying to get the Japanese out of the caves.
Well, they were doing testing here with bats.
They were putting little incendiary packages on, and they were planning on... Exploding bats.
...on sending them into Tokyo, because all of their buildings were made out of paper and wood, and just starting a huge firestorm over there.
But they were doing some testing, and they had several dignitaries attending, and apparently one of the bats attached itself to one of their vehicles.
Cause the fire and it didn't go over too well after that.
But anyway, what my idea is, it's not a really totally new idea, but I think everybody knows that unless things really fall apart, nobody's ever going to use nuclear weapons, at least from the U.S.
Probably not.
But if you remember in the Gulf War, when we had mass Uh, surrenders by a lot of the Iraqi troops.
I sure do.
Uh, what they did was, and I only heard this one time, what they did was they dropped leaflets on all these troops, the Iraqi troops, and they said, uh, if you don't surrender right now, you're going to be hit with the largest conventional weapon ever known to man.
And they didn't surrender, and the U.S.
dropped a fuel air bomb on them.
Do you remember that?
I remember that, but what I really remember, sir, was, and this is the truth, we buried them alive.
Pretty much, we buried them alive.
I don't know whether you know this or not, but we had gigantic earth-moving equipment, and they were in trenches, and we buried them alive.
It's not a well-known fact, but it's the truth.
Well, I know about that, but if you saw, if you remember on TV when they showed all the long lines of Iraqi soldiers coming and starting to kiss our guys' feet, it's because they had a fuel-air bomb dropped on them.
And if we could use that in the same way, we could carpet fuel-air bombs with, a lot of people call it the poor man's tactical nuke, and if we only had intelligence on, you know, a general area where these guys were.
They don't stay in their caves all the time.
I don't think for one second it's not something we're actively considering.
I'm sure it's on the table.
I'm sure it is.
It's a big nasty thing.
It's not nearly as nasty as nuclear bombs and not nearly as politically incorrect.
No, but it's psychologically disabling, that's for sure, as well as Decapitating, perhaps.
Thank you very much.
He's right.
First time caller on the line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
Hello.
My name is Brandy.
Yes, Brandy.
I have... Oh, by the way, that good-mom-has-nowhere-to-hide thing.
Oh, didn't you like that?
That was awfully funny.
I giggled, and my daughter had to come and see.
I had to play it again for her.
Yes.
That is very well done.
Very funny.
I have a... It's actually got three steps.
My idea.
Okay.
Okay.
Step one.
We blast them with window-rattling, skull-splitting levels of Slim Whitman.
I refer to this as the Tenderizer.
And then about a week or two later, everything that we need to do this, we have in our National Football League.
The National Football League with the cheerleaders.
And first we drop in the cheerleaders.
In their uniforms.
And they dance and they cheer.
And this is going to pull all these guys out.
So we don't have to go in after them.
And then while they're standing there, you know, jaws agape.
Then we send in the big worrying backers and pull out Kevlar.
And they take them all down.
We just get them all.
And then we sort them out later, the good guys and the bad guys.
So the NFL could do it all by itself?
Oh yeah!
Don't you think?
Well, I think the cheerleaders would be Uh, probably poorly received by a gentleman, but they'd be going to shock.
Yeah, exactly.
They'd be sitting there totally frozen, and then we could just hit them all.
And then they send down the guys with no necks.
Right.
Yeah, you've got it.
Thank you.
Alright, thank you.
And if we did it at the beginning of the week, we might even not miss a Sunday.
Wild Cardline, you're on the air.
Yes.
It'll have to be a Tuesday, this Monday Night Football.
Where are you calling from, sir?
Richmond, Virginia.
Okay.
Yes, one of my ideas was that Congress can help.
Since when, sir?
Our confiscation laws, when it comes to drug seizures, could be expanded to international waters.
I've got it, so in other words, they've got a lot of drugs there, right?
Yeah.
They throw a lot of heroin there, and it's a source of their money, so we could confiscate their rubble.
No, any truck crossing the border, even in any boat, any Saudi oil tanker, anything in international waters.
We could also try to export that log to the countries in the area, That could help us out with that.
So, in effect, fighting the drug war and the terrorist war together.
Well, attacking their money.
I mean, that's a good point.
He's right.
That's where most of their money comes from.
It comes from the growing of poppies.
They're a heroin-producing nation.
And it's all for export.
Not a bad idea.
They're always talking about the money.
Follow the money.
Freeze the assets?
Well, you really want to hurt their money, take away their heroin.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Uh, this is Carolyn.
Are you on some kind of speaker phone, dear?
Uh, I'm sorry.
That's all right.
Now we can hear the real you, Carolyn.
Okay.
Is this Eric?
Yes.
Oh, hi.
Okay.
Uh, out of the box?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, indeed.
I suggest that we take our most violent and perverted criminals.
They've lost their rights here by what they've done.
Take them over there and leave them to fend for themselves.
Well, I mean, but prisoners who are just, even those in prison for life, have not lost their right to life.
Now, you could suggest those on death row, maybe.
That's what I mean.
Oh, okay.
Alright, they're real bad people.
Right.
Anybody who has molested children.
Anybody who has, you know, committed violent crimes.
Yes.
Anyone who's on death row.
Yes.
And then after we do that, then I suggest we let it be known that any person who's caught here illegally in this country will not be deported to Mexico or wherever they come from.
Deported over to Afghanistan.
Uh-huh.
So instead of the round trip to Mexico and then back again in 12 hours, they've got to get back all the way from Afghanistan.
Exactly.
Pretty cold.
It's my understanding, but nevertheless, in an era of shrinking civil rights, perhaps an okay idea, I don't know.
It's my understanding that we generally have to treat immigrants, even illegal immigrants, in a constitutional manner, which of course would legally, as well as morally, prohibit us from doing this sort of thing.
But, out of the box, she works.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Oh, yes.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
This is Keith from Hamilton, Ontario.
Yes.
To start, Arlo, I was loaded with so many ideas, but first... Just give us the cream of the crop.
How's about this one?
It sounds funny, but how about a sleep bomb?
Have it spread quicker than anthrax and put them all out with a light?
Now, that is an awfully good idea.
In areas where we're required to put in ground troops, I'm telling you, and I'll say it again, I said it earlier, we know that the top Taliban people and the Al-Qaeda people and so forth and so on are mixing, we believe, with civilians.
So, it's a damn good idea.
Instead of going into an area where you know they're prepared for urban warfare, you put people to sleep ahead of time.
You don't kill them, you just put them to sleep and then sort them out.
And somebody's also saying, uh, Blossom with Slim Whitman, Um, much like years ago with Noriega, how he's in his nice little safe little haven there.
Yes.
Blast him out with thrash metal music.
That'd be a stuff.
Slayer, Megadeth, give him the works.
Megadeth.
Thank you, Art.
Alright, thank you sir.
Megadeth.
That could be a message all in itself anyway, right?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi, Art.
Turn your radio off.
I got it off.
Yeah, my idea was that we look at the real evil doers, the ones who are behind the fanatical fundamentals who are putting up the money to get them whipped up into a frenzy.
We maybe go after the top one or two richest people in the world, be they Americans or Saudis or whoever.
And put them before like a tribunal for crimes against humanity.
For stirring up wars against each other.
I'm not sure I got that exactly.
You take the world's richest people and then you put them on trial?
You put them on trial.
I mean like Bill Gates and people like that?
You follow the money trail.
But these are people in many ways who Bill Gates, for example, he made his money very legitimately.
Well, then he would be innocent.
He wouldn't have a problem.
Perhaps not innocent of having a bad operating system at times, but otherwise basically innocent.
No, I mean, and Oprah too.
She's innocent too, but I mean, who do you think is behind all the wars that we've been having over the last 50 years?
The money, interest, the, you know, we are just pawns.
But you're going after the money.
I don't think that's where the guilt is.
No, a lot of it seems frankly and honestly religiously motivated more than it does anything else.
I don't think the religion is very widespread or very extreme until certain, you know, moneyed interests get in there and start whipping them up and putting, you know, putting people and operatives in there to get the... Alright, well listen, I asked out of the box and you gave it to me.
Thank you.
We are out of time.
I want to thank all of you who participated.
You definitely got out of the box very well tonight.
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