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In the next hour, the man with more hits than a Mafia Don, Sean David Morton, comes back and does it again.
The space shuttle is up again, into orbit on its way to deliver a fresh crew to the International Space Station, lifted off from the Cape about five minutes early in order to beat an approaching rainstorm.
Shuttle was carrying seven astronauts and cosmonauts, three of whom will spend the next four months in space.
Discovery is due at the space station on Sunday.
So I guess they'll sort of drift toward it.
The largest U.S.-British airstrike in Iraq in almost six months killed one person, wounded 11 according to the Iraqis.
About 20 U.S. and British attack planes plus about 30 sport aircraft took part in the strikes.
And I guess we'll just keep Bat Damon down.
A helicopter crashed today near the Grand Canyon, killing six.
A seventh person seriously injured, the flight operated by the Grand Canyon Helicopter Company, Habion, I guess it is, of Las Vegas.
They've had a lot of accidents, or maybe it's just that those accidents are reported more frequently than others, but it does seem like there have been a lot of accidents in and around the Grand Canyon.
Well, my earthquake predictor, my radon earthquake predictor was right again.
A magnitude 5.5 earthquake shook part of Northern California Friday.
No immediate reports of injuries or damage, but it was, you know, 5.5, as my predictor said, pretty good size.
It hit at 1.18 p.m., according to Pat Jorgensen of the U.S. Geological Survey and Meno Park, centered near Portola in Plumas County, but felt 50 miles away in Reno, Nevada, and in Sacramento.
The Portola City Clerk, Leslie Teigen, said, the quake rattled the city hall but produced no damage, was like nothing I've ever felt before.
But then again, I'm from southern New Jersey, she said.
A lot of people pretty shaken up.
My radon earthquake detector guy has been right every single time.
I always hesitate to read those predictions that he makes, but every time they're right, Jesse Ventura has said something about UFOs.
From the Associated Press, the headline is, there's got to be somebody out there.
UFOs, he says, why not?
Governor says, you look at the vast array of stars up there, and we're to believe we're the only life.
Governor Ventura said, quote, I don't think so.
There's got to be somebody else out there, end quote.
Comments came in a reaction to a question from an audience member during Ventura's live weekly radio show broadcast from the Minnesota Zoo in Apple Valley.
Ventura said the federal government should disclose whatever it knows about aliens or unidentified flying objects to the public.
He said, that's called national security.
People in government think you can't handle it, and you need to be protected from it.
Personally, he said, I've never seen a UFO.
I can't say I have, he said, but do they exist?
Who knows?
Interesting, huh?
All right, I was wondering about human cloning.
This is from John in Universal City, Texas.
Wondering about human cloning.
I've heard many people comment that these clones would not have the same rights and status as natural humans.
My question is this.
It seems a foregone conclusion that this is going to happen.
If the scientists that perform these experiments maintain the anonymity of the participants in assuming that there are few or no catastrophic results, how would anyone know who is a clone and who is not a clone?
Are there going to be mandatory DNA tests on all newborn babies to establish there are no clones born?
Point is, no one would have any idea who is and who isn't.
In most studies of this nature, they publish the results in a study without naming names.
Therefore, any viable clones resulting from the study would be undetectable without DNA tests of both parents and the clone.
I don't have the faintest idea how our society is going to handle this whole clone thing.
Maybe you have comments on it.
I guess you ought to, because obviously it's going ahead.
The 200 attempts, it'll be done out at sea shortly.
And of course, the Raelians and many others, I'm sure, who are quietly proceeding ahead, rich people who want to duplicate themselves for whatever reason.
There's going to be a lot of it going on.
How do we handle it?
What do we do?
Didn't think the issue would be here so fast.
unidentified
Did you?
art bell
I mean, I know we've unraveled the human genome and we know so much now but somehow I still thought that clones like robots robots were promised by now I mean by now we should have servants running around handing us cooking our food doing our laundry doing everything right if you listen to science fiction in the 50s and 60s by now robots would be doing everything for us but that technology has not progressed as quickly as we thought it might on the other hand cloning
I thought that would be after my lifetime.
But no.
We're going to have clones real quick.
What do you think?
The following is from Alex in Canada.
And I really found this intriguing.
And I'm not saying it's true, nor is Alex.
But it is so weird that I thought I'd read it to you, what he wrote.
And see if any of you know anything about it.
Or is it one of those great hushed up things?
things or did it never happen Alex writes about three years ago I was watching TV and I saw the strangest thing on a news show that I was meaning to tell you about since I never heard it on your show but I never got around to it the news program was called World News coming from the U.S. I'm here in Canada it gave normal and regular news but all of a sudden a very strange news story and the strange about strangest thing I've ever heard of
on a seemingly reputable national and in quotes normal news agency okay so apparently this small town in your U.S. had a sudden disappearance of a good portion of its population women men children went literally suddenly missing they showed clips of an empty dry cleaner business a local park with bicycles on the side of the road no rioters I even remember them showing a bus or train terminal that was empty
and on some of the benches there were walkments just lying there.
I remember them showing a lady scared and angry that her child was missing from her own kitchen, the water in the sink still running and she was just gone.
I'm scaring myself just thinking about this stuff again.
She pleaded with who or whatever took it and she had a suspicion it may have been the government.
They showed the police closing off the town with banners and roadblocks,
I've never heard anything since no progress on the story wasn't anywhere near April Fool's Day eventually I just stopped thinking about it and thought it was some sort of hoax or government cover-up I don't know P.S. I'm very curious about this story and would really appreciate even a confirmation that you received the email well here you go I just gave that to you PSS I swear I'm not lying to you if you research and maybe ask some of your numerous contacts perhaps you will hear
Well, I don't know.
I don't remember the story myself, but I admit it is eminently intriguing.
So if anybody out there knows about it, let's hear about it.
British International School in Cairo, Egypt.
Ben Stanford, graduating from USC with double majors in political science and the fine arts, Sean David Morton, has been a very successful businessman, renowned psychic, very psychic, an investigative journalist and writer, director, producer for TV and films.
In 1990, he was the writer, producer, director for a 13-point documentary series called UFO Contactees, gathering over 600 hours on interviews with witnesses and researchers from around the world.
In 91, Sean was instrumental in bringing Area 51 to international attention by finding a series of hilltops that looked down on the super-secret facility and filming it for the first time.
He was one of the original writer, producers, and on-camera investigators for UPN's Strange Universe.
He has been a contributing writer for UFO Library magazine and written, produced, and consulted for Unsolved Mysteries, sightings, Now It Can Be Told, and Hard Copy.
While at Strange Universe, Sean did the first national stories on the Chupacabra, the UFO contactee case of Adrian, and while at Hard Copy produced the first national news segments on the Phoenix Lights, the conspiracy theorist behind the death of Lady Diana Spencer also wrote the first national articles on the cover-ups behind the deaths.
Princess Diana and JFK Jr.
Sean studied with a Dalai Lama in India, lived as an initiated monk in a monastery in Nepal, where he lived and studied with a black-hat Buddhist sect.
It was there he learned meditative techniques that enhanced his own psychic abilities and allowed him to get in tune with the Earth, read maps to predict geologic events, taught him to travel the time stream.
In the summer of 76, Sean learned the original protocols of remote viewing and has been practicing and honoring these skills for 25 years now.
He is now teaching seminars across the country on his spiritual remote viewing, or SRV, techniques.
His track record of predicting Earth changes, catastrophes, economic trends, the market, political events have been nothing short of astounding, bringing him international recognition.
Since 93, Sean David Morton has been the publisher and editor of the International Monthly Magazine, the Delphi Associates newsletter, available by private subscription only.
It is the nation's foremost publication of prophecy, prediction, and the paranormal.
They like to say the Delphi Associates newsletter motto is tomorrow's headlines today.
Here is Sean David Morton.
sean david morton
Thank you very much.
art bell
Hello, Sean.
sean david morton
I appreciate it.
I'm a mafia don now, I guess.
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I'd like to thank you for being on the show.
It's a great honor that you accepted my offer, which you couldn't refuse.
art bell
You're very, very welcome, and you'll find a reason to do us a favor sometime in the future.
sean david morton
You do it a lot better than I do, actually.
art bell
Yeah, good to have you, Sean.
you thank you it's just uh it's so nice to be back so um so I've got friends out there who are getting in trouble asking asking questions as everybody out there should be you know what an interest what a really interesting answer he gave, huh?
sean david morton
Well, I mean, consider Ventura's background.
It's the fact that he was a former Navy SEAL and was in the military and was in special forces and special operations.
And I'm sure he probably has, well, you were in the military.
I'm sure I think anybody that comes from a military background or even from, and you especially, because you come from a Navy background first, I believe.
art bell
Air Force.
sean david morton
Air Force, sorry.
And then the media aspect, you begin to realize that the reality that's spun for the majority of, well, not only Americans, but people all around the world.
It's just this kind of bizarre and interesting tissue-thin veil of lies.
And all you have to do is poke a few holes in it and ask a few questions of the right people.
And you'll notice that this veil begins to kind of fall away.
art bell
Well, our government thrives on secrecy.
Without secrecy, we wouldn't have half the budgets we've got, most of them black.
sean david morton
Well, and also when people realize the immense amount of money that's been spent on these kind of programs for the last 50 years, that if you literally look at the budget of the federal government, 50% of everything they spend has been going supposedly for defense.
And a lot of this has been going towards black programs and black projects and developments of UFO craft and anti-gravity craft.
And this is actually one of the most interesting things, because I'm glad we got off on this right away.
Somebody wrote in, and I'm not sure if you've heard this or not, but there was a British correspondent who wrote a piece on the internet where they were watching a news story on Sky One.
This is actually from Britain, where a very high-ranking American officer, and unfortunately they didn't actually give the name of the officer, stated that this would most likely be the last conventional helicopter.
This is the Comanche helicopter.
The Comanche and actually the Apache attack helicopters, that they were not going to be making any more of them or ordering any more, and that these helicopters to go into active service, that they would actually be moving into anti-gravity craft.
This wasn't transmitted on American television.
It was on Sky 1 on a satellite when someone caught it.
So, you know, assuming we civilians don't find out about advanced military concepts, then the level would probably be three levels of military programs where you've got the civilian level of technology, which is all the junk that doesn't work.
It's designed obsolescence.
It's supposed to break so you can buy more things.
art bell
Well, if I were to find out that we had anti-gravitic technology, and I don't doubt that we might, it would make me pause with regard to the whole subject of UFOs, because obviously if our military has been testing out that kind of thing, most people are going to see something like that and say, oh, my God, UFO.
If it floats and it doesn't fly, as far as I know, we don't have anything like that.
So a lot of the reports that are saying aliens are here could be wrong and or absolutely right, and it could be back-engineered technology.
Who knows?
sean david morton
Well, I went back out to Area 51.
I hadn't actually been out there to the little campsite hill that's near the border of the base.
And I was out there with my girlfriend Melissa and a couple of women from Canada and a couple of other people that we sort of ran into with the little alien who came out there with us.
art bell
When was this?
sean david morton
This was May 30th of last year, of 2000.
And it was kind of, I went out there because it was like an anniversary.
I think it was May 30th of 1991 that I actually found the hilltop that looked down on the base.
And I came back in June with some friends of mine and we videotaped the base for the first time, all hiding out in some rocks up there.
And we saw a very interesting, I mean, they put on a whole show for us.
Right about 9.30 or so, there were what appeared to be a war game with jets actually flying a pattern overhead with what looked like very, very high-flying satellites that were actually moving over the area and triangles of helicopters.
And these were about six flanks of helicopters.
And these helicopters actually had glowing discs inside the middle of the choppers.
And what would happen is you would see these things glow up and then begin to energize and move around.
And then the glow would stop.
And we had video cameras there.
As a matter of fact, the two Canadian girls we were with had video cameras.
And there was a very interesting thing that happened right before all of this kind of brouhaha, this war game broke out.
There was a very odd trilling sound, like a metallic trilling sound that came from the bottom of the hill, sort of a.
And all of our electrical equipment went dead.
art bell
Really?
sean david morton
So they, you know, we were trying to work the cameras.
The cameras wouldn't work.
The thing then begins to happen where we see these discs actually being used in concert with helicopters.
art bell
Was that a higher sound, as you just demonstrated to me?
Or was there a bass content?
sean david morton
It was kind of a high-pitched trilling sound.
And at first we thought it was a, you know, at first we thought it could have been some sort of strange bug or something, but then we realized that when the cameras didn't work and all the things that we had on us, because I mean, everything just stopped working.
All the video cameras that they had on us just went dead.
And we'd left the car actually down at the bottom of the hill.
I was sort of curious as to whether or not we could actually start the cars up, too.
art bell
Sean, I had somebody who recorded the sound of a UFO.
It doesn't come across the telephone very well because there's a lot of bass content to it.
But listen to this.
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Okay.
art bell
Could you hear any of that?
sean david morton
Yeah, no, I can.
It didn't sound like that.
It was literally a...
But that's the freaky thing about being out there in the desert.
You can't really hear.
The only time I ever actually heard any sound that came off the craft when we were out there was the very first time I was out there back in February of 1991.
It's when I dragged some reporters from the LA Times out.
And this is when, you know, in the bad old days, when people like Noria Haikawa and Gary Schultz and Anthony Hilder and all the original people who were kind of taking trips and tours out there, the whole gang, the whole motley crew.
But this was when the craft actually literally almost flew very, very low, almost hit the car that we were in on a very rainy night, and we ran after this thing in the desert.
And it made a high-pitched, it sounded like that.
It had a bass tone like that, but it also made a high-pitched trilling sound, like a singing sound, almost like a Tibetan singing bowl.
unidentified
Wow.
sean david morton
Very, very interesting.
Now, and the only reason I wanted to get into this also is that I have it on very good authority that the Air Force is now testing aircraft that are capable of Mach 50, which of course is 50 times the speed of sound.
It's anywhere between about 38,000 miles per hour, actually 38,500 miles per hour.
And that's three times around the world in about two hours.
Now, three of the unacknowledged aircraft, and this is the stuff that has been coming out even in Popular Science Magazine and Popular Mechanics, are, of course, the Aurora, which everybody has heard about, the TR-3B, and the military prototype of the Lockheed Martin X-33, which is actually a sort of a giant wing spaceplane.
It's a single-stage orbit aerospace vehicle, as well as what they also are now calling an X-22A.
And this is very interesting, and I think you'll get a lot of reports from this, and a lot of people who may have actually served in the Gulf War who may tell you about this, but it's a two-man anti-gravity fighter disc.
Now, there's a fourth one, which almost nothing has actually been revealed about, but there is a code name for it called Nautilus.
It's a secret military spacecraft which operates by a magnetic pulse.
The Russians actually have a prototype of this particular craft that was built at the Russian version of Ari 51, and it actually made the news about six months or so ago, and it actually said, you know, are Russians working on a UFO to frighten Americans into thinking they were being invaded from beings from outer space?
art bell
You know, for a long time it was said that there was going to be a ruse, whether it was our government or a consortium of governments.
There would be a ruse that would scare us badly enough to let the weaponization of space proceed.
sean david morton
Well, that's what some people think.
They call it Project Bluebeam.
Some people believe that it's actually a falsified alien invasion, and there are other people who believe that it may actually be messianic in nature, to actually use holographic projectors to project angels or Jesus or Muhammad or the archangels actually coming from space, invading the world, allowing them to take over.
art bell
Well, a lot of people would fight.
I'll tell you that.
Listen, hold on.
We're at a breakpoint here.
A lot of people would definitely fight on that if you were to look up and see an image of our Lord in the sky as the ground shook.
What would you think?
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
About two months ago, we broke a story here on Coast to Coast AM about Cuba.
It was off the coast of Cuba, and a Ms. Zelitsky, who's done a lot of deep-sea work using side-scan sonar, located what appears to be an entire city with buildings, architecturally designed buildings, rolling white sand that goes on for miles and miles and miles and buildings and tunnels and what would appear to be highways.
And, oh my God, it's 2,200 feet under the water off the coast of Cuba.
2,200 feet.
Even the last ice age can only account for about a 300-foot difference.
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So how could anything be 2,200 feet under the water?
art bell
Well, we proceeded with the story, as you should proceed with a story like this, and we contacted the National Geographic because word was they'd made a deal.
And sure enough, very hesitantly, only after checking many times with boss on the phone, did National absolutely admit they were involved.
But I'll tell you something, now's clamped shut like you wouldn't believe.
Well, I've got word from absolutely reliable sources that this story really has legs and that there's going to be this incredible announcement in all the major media.
It's coming.
Something is in the water below Cuba.
And I've just got to ask Sean about it.
Sean, what do you know about all of this?
sean david morton
Well, you're absolutely right.
Obviously, you're the main national media source that broke the story.
National Geographic is just tied up tight on this whole thing.
They obviously want the exclusive on this.
As far as I know, the only problem that they're having right now is that I don't know what you call them, lady scientists, the woman Russian scientist who has been dealing with a lot of this, they're using a lot of Russian deep-sea equipment.
And the only snap food that they're running into is that they want to, you know, the United States gets a little fussy about Russian submarines in Cuba.
But they are using a lot of Russian deep-sea equipment.
And here's what's, the thing that has fascinated me since this story broke has been, and if you will notice, just over the last year, the immense amount of media attention that has been paid to not only Atlantis, but to a media coverage in general of an exposure of a lot of ancient civilizations with the overtures that these ancient civilizations were mysteriously destroyed by a series of obviously cataclysmic earth changes of some kind,
possibly even a planetary flip.
And the primary shakers and movers behind a lot of this has been the Disney Corporation.
And Disney, if you remember the special that they had on, this is, of course, before, I believe the National Geographic started talking about it, I think even before he started announcing it.
But there was a TV special on ABC.
It was at the same time that Atlantis, the animated picture, the Disney animated picture came out with Tom Skerritt.
And at the same time, there were smattering of specials of various scientists and researchers who have been searching for Atlantis and trying to match up the description of Plato with various areas around the world.
And I think the most remarkable thing for me, actually watching this, analyzing what's been going on with the media, and this discovery that National Geographic is going to make, and they're being very hush-hush about it for obvious reasons.
At first, they had to keep their mouths shut because there was a bidding war going on, as I understand it, behind the scenes of people who wanted to get their hands on this.
Now they want to be able to keep it secret until they actually find what they think they're going to find, which is, you're exactly right, a pristine sand 2,200 feet down, a virtually intact city.
art bell
What could account for anything 2,200 feet down?
sean david morton
Well, it would obviously mean that that entire area would have had to have been a valley, actually, at one time where there was no water, and that somehow the planet shifted in a very violent fashion.
And the unique thing about this is that not only do we have, if you draw a straight line from where the site is that they've actually found it in Cuba, and you draw a line directly across the Atlantic, there's another Russian scientist that's a geologist whose name is Vyacheslav Khurjavatsev.
I'm not even sure if I'm saying it correctly, but his last name is Kurdravatsev.
And he has a theory about Atlantis in England on the other side of the Atlantic.
art bell
Do you think this is Atlantis, Sean?
sean david morton
Yes, as a matter of fact.
And I think that what we're going to discover is that Atlantis, over a period of time, not just one giant cataclysm that occurred approximately 12,500 years ago or about 9,000 BC, which is when Plato describes this cataclysm as occurring, but that we're going to discover that there was, in fact, a much, much larger continent.
But here's the mystery.
The mystery is that how did this continent simply vanish?
I mean, because we're talking about a hole in the Atlantic Ocean, almost like an ice cream scoop.
I mean, there was a theory way, way back in the 60s that the moon had actually been expelled from the Atlantic pocket.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
And of course, then we went to the moon and found out that the moon is made of all kinds of things that are not found here on Earth, everything from helium-3 to a lot of very bizarre trace minerals and all that, but that it is, in fact, came from somewhere outside the solar system and rather mysteriously parked itself in orbit.
So the idea being is that the only way that we can really go back into antiquity is to maybe trust our psychics and mystics, if you will, going back to everyone from Philosoph the Tibetan, who wrote a book called A Dweller on Two Planets, which was a fable, if you will, that he claimed was a past life experience about his life in Atlantis.
And of course, a very, very sketchy work of Edgar Casey, where Casey talks about the Great Cataclysm 12,500 years ago.
That number keeps coming up over and over again as we find these ancient monuments and monoliths like the pyramids seem to be dated around 12,500.
Back in 1992, when I published my original manuscript, The Millennium Factor, and I actually put some maps in how I saw the United States approximately about 100 years from now, one of the major things that I'd actually placed on the map was I'd drawn a much larger area around Cuba and an area of the Lesser Antilles that I felt that there was going to be a drastic shifting of the oceans and that you would have sections of Florida,
which is already at or below sea level, would actually begin to sink, and that you would then have a new landmass that would rise directly off the coast of Cuba that back in 1992 I said was going to be called the New Atlantis, this area directly off Cuba.
So interestingly enough, that now, correlating to my visions and what I'd seen then of what the planet looks like about 100 years from now or so, this area, which is the direct area that's now being described as having the city, being called New Atlantis.
And of course, this gets in, well, let me just talk about the Atlantean theory first.
There's another thing also.
When Edgar Casey in his sleeping prophecies, and remember, Casey, to pick this stuff out, Casey did approximately 14,000 readings in his career, the majority of which were health-related and health-oriented.
He only did about literally about 50 readings over the course of about 20 years or so that related to ancient history or predictions and prophecies of the future, which of course have played out with amazing accuracy over the years.
art bell
Percentage-wise, he didn't actually do that many, did he?
Most of it was healing and other things.
sean david morton
Right.
There were a grand total of 50.
He did a grand total of 50 readings that strayed off the, oh, my, you know, I've got a bad hip, what do I do?
And Casey said, oh, fill a rain barrel up with olive oil and sit in it for a day and it'll go away.
You know, all these bizarre kind of, you know, homeopathic cures and treatments.
So when he started talking about Atlantis and started talking about what was going on with Atlantis, one of his major prophecies was that they would begin to find traces of Atlantis off the coast of Bimini in the early 1970s.
Well, lo and behold, 1971, 72 comes along, and Jacques Gousteau discovers what they call the Bimini Causeway, which is a huge series of rocks and various ruins that are directly off the coast of Bimini.
Now, here's where it gets a little hinky and sort of unusual, and I need you to take a leap of faith with me here.
There is, it gets spotted every now and then, but there is a pyramid also, a gigantic pyramid that people who have seen it claim is about 1,600 feet, that has actually been photographed on occasion.
This is the strange thing, is that we look for it, and it's there, and then we look for it again, and it's gone.
Now, we don't know if this has to do with...
Pardon me?
It's right between I've got to get the map out of that.
art bell
One of the things that Jalitsky said, Sean, was that they had several obvious large pyramid structures.
sean david morton
Aha.
Well, the pyramid that's been seen, and this is, like, for example, the reports of a gentleman named Ron Brown who claims that he has the crystal that He was diving and actually comes out of this pyramid.
Let me give you an interesting theory.
An interesting theory may be, and this directly links into the Bermuda Triangle, may explain some of the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle, may explain the fact that in a lot of the research on the Bermuda Triangle that was done by people like Alan Landsberg, who did the In Search of TV series, people seem to come, there's literally a wrinkle in time space in that entire area, and objects have literally fallen into that wrinkle, vanished for a few days, and then reappeared literally in the same space.
art bell
I believe there is a similar area in the Pacific somewhere, just about opposite the Bermuda Triangle.
sean david morton
The Bermuda Triangle.
Well, one of the ways that we first found it was a weather satellite was actually coming down, it was decelerating in orbit, and the thing disappeared while NASA was tracking it in about 1967 or so.
And then about four days later, suddenly this thing pops up on the radar screens.
Everybody goes crazy.
They think it's a rocket or a missile or something, and they find it's their weather satellite that had, in fact, vanished about four days before.
The theory was that this thing had actually fallen through a wrinkle in time space.
Now, here's my theory on this.
My theory on this is that with these Atlantean civilizations, these ancient, ancient civilizations, I believe that the pyramids themselves, and this is one of the things that Casey had described rather vaguely in one of his readings, and is described in more detail by people like Philosophette.
And obviously, this is channeled material, but I think it's unusual, that there were pyramids that were actually set up at the corners of this continent, and that the pyramids themselves were gigantic power sources that connected into an interdimensional power source, literally like a scalar wave type of energy.
And they would actually absorb energy directly from the sun, where you would actually have a faceted geodesic crystal at the top that would look like a flower, if you will, that would then gather solar energy and then transmit this energy over very, very large spaces.
Well, the idea being is that if you had three pyramids, very, very large pyramids, now we're talking about a 1600-foot pyramid that we have witnesses and we have some sensing radar on that seems to once again come and go.
Is it possible that actually one of these pyramids is some kind of electromagnetic device that actually transmits energy over an entire continent, very much like a Tesla technology, that would actually remotely transmit energy?
And was it possible that that energy became, that the greed of the people at the time began using the energy and the misuse of that energy led to a period of time when literally the continent, due to the electromagnetic fields, possibly the edges of the continent itself may have actually winked out.
art bell
Well, I've heard similar theories.
Some of them suggest that this power was used to perhaps attempt to avert a cyclical catastrophic event, perhaps every 12,500 years.
sean david morton
Correct.
art bell
Or, conversely, perhaps caused one.
sean david morton
Well, this would explain a lot of things.
It would explain if this pyramid, which is spotted one day and then it's not spotted another, if this pyramid is literally fluxing between dimensional spaces, and when it gets on this side of the dimensional line, if you will, it does seem to kick out a beam of energy.
People before they actually vanish into the Bermuda Triangle seem to go insane.
That's the first thing that occurs.
These pilots begin singing Daisy into their headphones and start spinning around in a circle and eject for no particular reason.
Pointing directly to some kind of electromagnetic field that actually scrambles the human brain directly before these craft actually disappear.
One other thing, and you will find this, and I think this is one of the most fascinating pieces of evidence that was reported on in the old Omni magazine.
Discover magazine has done it a couple of times.
I actually stumbled across an Apollo 11 photo that I thought looked very, very interesting.
has to do with the actual fate of Flight 19.
And for those of anybody that's seen Close Encounters...
art bell
It was not, in fact, found.
And you get a story like that, and it just doesn't go away.
They did find some planes, but they later confirmed they were not, repeat, not Flight 19.
sean david morton
Well, here's the theory.
The theory is, is that we have a photograph that comes from the original orbits of the Apollo 11 that was then analyzed by Omni Magazine.
Actually, the Spotlight, Omni Magazine, Scientific American did stories on this because they found a chunk of ice in the upper atmosphere that was the exact size and shape of a Grumman A-16 Avenger.
art bell
What?
sean david morton
And this thing was actually floating in orbit around the planet.
art bell
What?
sean david morton
Photographed by Apollo 11.
And the nose plate, it's very interesting because the nose cone itself, what I think I'm going to try to do is I've got it on video, and I'll see if I can actually use my video snappy thing to take pictures or find the old stories on it because they're not going to be able to do it.
art bell
Let me be sure I've got this right.
A block of ice in the shape of a Grumman orbiting the Earth.
sean david morton
Correct.
art bell
Seen and photographed by Apollo 11?
sean david morton
Yes, in one of the photos.
And the analysis was done in Omni magazine.
I don't know if I can find the article or not, but Omni did it.
A newspaper called The Spotlight did another story on it.
Scientific American actually took a look at it where they said this is one of the real mysteries.
Of course, the idea being is that maybe there was some kind of electromagnetic phenomenon that could have literally thrown these craft into orbit.
Of course, the other explanation would be because one of the pilots screamed, don't come after us, they're from outer space just before they disappeared, that maybe something was actually traveling out into space in regards to this, maybe using a vortex there that actually sucked these craft into space with them.
art bell
Are you sure that's what he said?
sean david morton
I am absolutely positive.
That's the whole case.
The Alan Landsberg book on the Bermuda Triangle, where Landsberg researched the entire thing, because they sent out a rescue team after the Avengers, and the rescue team vanished as well.
art bell
Yes, I recall.
sean david morton
So anyway, that's just kind of an interesting mystery, and it all relates back to Atlantis.
And the idea of what I wanted to talk about here was that here you have Atlantis, which possibly is off Cuba, which mystics have said, and psychics and Edgar Casey have said for a long time that the United States and these sections of Florida and the central part of the United States could have in fact been at some time part of Atlantis.
Then you go to the other side of the ocean and you go to a place that's actually called the Little Soul Bank, and you're going to be hearing a lot about this when the Atlanta story breaks off of Cuba.
Because by drawing a straight line from where that site is, you actually come across the Little Soul Bank, and it's on Britain's Celtic shelf.
And one of the things that this other Russian scientist, Korderevsky, gave me his name right, is proposing is that if you draw a straight line across England, you'll find that all of the various megalithic sites run in a straight line.
Glastonbury, Bureau Bridge, the Brentley Tor, St. Michael's Mount, Carr on St. Michael, the Avebury Stone Circle are all in an exact straight line that actually run across the islands of England all the way to the eastern shore, and that there is another city that they found, another megalithic site underwater at Little Sol Bank on Britain's Celtic Shelf, which is in not that much water.
art bell
But what about social impact?
If this, in fact, is Atlantis and the big news breaks, my God, they're going to have to rewrite all the history books, the social impact of the knowledge of a great civilization like that, 2,200 feet underwater?
I mean, how are we going to handle it?
sean david morton
Well, your guess is as good as mine on that.
I think that the, I mean, we've been so purposely kept in the dark.
I don't, I understand it in one aspect, but we're so taught that all of our history just began 5,000 years ago, that we literally just fell out of the sky, or God created the earth in seven days, and here we are.
And the unique thing is, is that the further back in time you go, the more you find that ancient man, whether or not it was the Egyptians or the Mayans or the Aztecs or any of these ancient cultures, seemed to know more about the,
should I say, the pattern or the frequency or the cycle that humanity would actually go through leading up to now, leading up directly to, and this is one of the things that I try to point out over and over and over again, is that the people that are out there that are listening to this program, the people who are just pounding around in their everyday lives, you have no idea how special and how magical this particular age is.
art bell
Yes, but as you point out, they seem to know so much more about this cyclical catastrophic event than we do.
And we're sort of coming toward the time when it's going to occur again.
And if we know less than they did, and they're 2,200 feet below the ocean, where does that leave us?
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We broke a story here on Coast to Coast AM about Cuba.
It was off the coast of Cuba, and a Ms. Zelitsky, who's done a lot of deep-sea work using side-scan sonar, located what appears to be an entire city with buildings, architecturally designed buildings, rolling white sand that goes on for miles and miles and miles and buildings and tunnels and what would appear to be highways.
And, oh my God, it's 2,200 feet under the water off the coast of Cuba.
2,200 feet.
Even the last ice age can only account for about a 300-foot difference.
unidentified
So how could anything be 2,200 feet under the water?
art bell
Well, we proceeded with the story, as you should proceed with a story like this, and we contacted the National Geographic because word was they'd made a deal.
And sure enough, very hesitantly, only after checking many times with boss on the phone, did National absolutely admit they were involved.
But I'll tell you something, now's clamped shut like you wouldn't believe.
Well, I've got word from absolutely reliable sources that this story really has legs and that there's going to be this incredible announcement in all the major media.
It's coming.
Something is in the water below Cuba.
And I've just got to ask Sean about it.
Sean, what do you know about all of this?
sean david morton
Well, you're absolutely right.
Obviously, you're the main national media source that broke the story.
National Geographic is just tied up tight on this whole thing.
They obviously want the exclusive on this.
As far as I know, the only problem that they're having right now is that I don't know what you call a lady scientist, the woman Russian scientist who has been dealing with a lot of this, they're using a lot of Russian deep-sea equipment.
And the only snap food that they're running into is that they want to, you know, the United States gets a little fussy about Russian submarines in Cuba.
But they are using a lot of Russian deep-sea equipment.
And here's what's, the thing that has fascinated me since this story broke has been, and if you will notice, just over the last year, the immense amount of media attention that has been paid to not only Atlantis, but to a media coverage in general of an exposure of a lot of ancient civilizations with the overtures that these ancient civilizations were mysteriously destroyed by a series of obviously cataclysmic earth changes of some kind,
possibly even a planetary flip.
And the primary shakers and movers behind a lot of this has been the Disney Corporation.
And Disney, if you remember the special that they had on, this is, of course, before, I believe the National Geographic started talking about it, I think even before you started announcing it.
But there was a TV special on ABC.
It was at the same time that Atlantis, the animated picture, the Disney animated picture came out with Tom Skarritt.
And at the same time, there were a smattering of specials of various scientists and researchers who have been searching for Atlantis and trying to match up the description of Plato With various areas around the world.
And I think the most remarkable thing for me, actually watching this, analyzing what's been going on with the media and this discovery that National Geographic is going to make, and they're being very hush-hush about it for obvious reasons.
At first, they had to keep their mouths shut because there was a bidding war going on, as I understand it, behind the scenes of people who wanted to get their hands on this.
Now they want to be able to keep it secret until they actually find what they think they're going to find, which is, you're exactly right, a pristine sand 2,200 feet down, a virtually intact city.
art bell
What could account for anything 2,200 feet down?
sean david morton
Well, it would obviously mean that that entire area would have had to have been a valley, actually, at one time where there was no water, and that somehow the planet shifted in a very violent fashion.
And the unique thing about this is that not only do we have, if you draw a straight line from where the site is that they've actually found it in Cuba, and you draw a line directly across the Atlantic, there's another Russian scientist that's a geologist whose name is Vyacheslav Khorjavatsev.
I'm not even sure if I'm saying it correctly, but his last name is Kurdy Vatsev.
And he has a theory about Atlantis in England on the other side of the Atlantic.
art bell
Do you think this is Atlantis, Sean?
sean david morton
Yes, as a matter of fact.
And I think that what we're going to discover is that Atlantis, over a period of time, not just one giant cataclysm that occurred approximately 12,500 years ago or about 9,000 BC, which is when Plato describes this cataclysm as occurring, but that we're going to discover that there was in fact a much, much larger continent.
But here's the mystery.
The mystery is that how did this continent simply vanish?
I mean, because we're talking about a hole in the Atlantic Ocean, almost like an ice cream scoop.
I mean, there was a theory way, way back in the 60s that the moon had actually been expelled from the Atlantic pocket, as they call it.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
And of course, then we went to the moon and found out that the moon is made of all kinds of things that are not found here on Earth, everything from helium-3 to a lot of very bizarre trace minerals and all that, but that it is, in fact, came from somewhere outside the solar system and rather mysteriously parked itself in orbit.
So the idea being is that the only way that we can really go back into antiquity is to maybe trust our psychics and mystics, if you will, going back to everyone from Philosoph the Tibetan, who wrote a book called A Dweller on Two Planets, which was a fable, if you will, that he claimed was a past life experience about his life in Atlantis.
And of course, a very, very sketchy work of Edgar Casey, where Casey talks about the Great Cataclysm 12,500 years ago.
That number keeps coming up over and over again as we find these ancient monuments and monoliths like the pyramids seem to be dated around 12,500.
Back in 1992, when I published my original manuscript, The Millennium Factor, and I actually put some maps in how I saw the United States approximately about 100 years from now, one of the major things that I'd actually placed on the map was I'd drawn a much larger area around Cuba and an area of the Lesser Antilles,
that I felt that there was going to be a drastic shifting of the oceans and that you would have sections of Florida, which is already at or below sea level, would actually begin to sink, and that you would then have a new landmass that would rise directly off the coast of Cuba that back in 1992 I said was going to be called the New Atlantis, this area directly off Cuba.
So interestingly enough, that now, correlating to my visions and what I'd seen then of what the planet looks like about 100 years from now or so, this area, which is the direct area that's now being described as having the city, being called New Atlantis.
And of course, this gets in, well, let me just talk about the Atlantean theory first.
There's another thing also.
When Edgar Casey in his sleeping prophecies, and remember, Casey, to pick this stuff out, Casey did approximately 14,000 readings in his career, the majority of which were health-related and health-oriented.
He only did about literally about 50 readings over the course of about 20 years or so that related to ancient history or predictions and prophecies of the future, which, of course, have played out with amazing accuracy over the years.
art bell
Percentage-wise, he didn't actually do that many, did he?
Most of it was healing and other things.
sean david morton
Right.
There were a grand total of 50.
He did a grand total of 50 readings that strayed off the, oh, my, you know, I've got a bad hip, what do I do?
And Casey said, I'm going to fill a rain barrel up with olive oil and sit in it for a day and it'll go away.
You know, all these bizarre kind of, you know, homeopathic cures and treatments.
So when he started talking about Atlantis and started talking about what was going on with Atlantis, one of his major prophecies was that they would begin to find traces of Atlantis off the coast of Bimini in the early 1970s.
Well, lo and behold, 1971, 72 comes along, and Jacques Gousteau discovers what they call the Bimini Causeway, which is a huge series of rocks and various ruins that are directly off the coast of Bimini.
Now, here's where it gets a little hinky and sort of unusual, and I need you to take a leap of faith with me here.
There is, it gets spotted every now and then, but there is a pyramid also, a gigantic pyramid that people who have seen it claim is about 1,600 feet, that has actually been photographed on occasion.
And this is the strange thing, is that we look for it and it's there, and then we look for it again and it's gone.
Now, we don't know if this has to do with...
Pardon me?
It's right between I've got to get the map out of it.
art bell
Well, one of the things that Jelitsky said, Sean, was that they had several obvious large pyramid structures.
Uh-huh.
sean david morton
Well, the pyramid that's been seen, and this is, like, for example, the reports of a gentleman named Ron Brown who claims that he has the Crystal that he was diving and actually comes out of this pyramid.
Let me give you an interesting theory.
An interesting theory may be, and this directly links into the Bermuda Triangle, may explain some of the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle, may explain the fact that in a lot of the research on the Bermuda Triangle that was done by people like Alan Landsberg, who did the In Search of TV series, people seem to come, there's literally a wrinkle in time space in that entire area, and objects have literally fallen into that wrinkle, vanished for a few days, and then reappeared literally in the same space.
art bell
I believe there is a similar area in the Pacific somewhere, just about opposite the Bermuda Triangle.
sean david morton
The Bermuda Triangle.
Well, one of the ways that we first found it was a weather satellite was actually coming down, it was decelerating in orbit, and the thing disappeared while NASA was tracking it in about 1967 or so.
And then about four days later, suddenly this thing pops up on the radar screens.
Everybody goes crazy.
They think it's a rocket or a missile or something, and they find it's their weather satellite that had, in fact, vanished about four days before.
The theory was that this thing had actually fallen through a wrinkle in time space.
Now, here's my theory on this.
My theory on this is that with these Atlantean civilizations, these ancient, ancient civilizations, I believe that the pyramids themselves, and this is one of the things that Casey had described rather vaguely in one of his readings, and is described in more detail by people like Philip the Tibet.
And obviously, this is channeled material, but I think it's unusual, that there were pyramids that were actually set up at the corners of this continent, and that the pyramids themselves were gigantic power sources that connected into an interdimensional power source, literally like a scalar wave type of energy.
And they would actually absorb energy directly from the sun, where you would actually have a faceted geodesic crystal at the top that would look like a flower, if you will, that would then gather solar energy and then transmit this energy over very, very large spaces.
Well, the idea being is that if you had three pyramids, very, very large pyramids, now we're talking about a 1600-foot pyramid that we have witnesses and we have some sensing radar on that seems to once again come and go.
Is it possible that actually one of these pyramids is some kind of electromagnetic device that actually transmits energy over an entire continent, very much like a Tesla technology, that would actually remotely transmit energy?
And was it possible that that energy became, that the greed of the people at the time began using the energy and the misuse of that energy led to a period of time when literally the continent, due to the electromagnetic fields, possibly the edges of the continent itself, may have actually winked out.
art bell
Well, I've heard similar theories.
Some of them suggest that this power was used to perhaps attempt to avert a cyclical catastrophic event, perhaps every 12,500 years.
sean david morton
Correct.
art bell
Or, conversely, perhaps caused one.
sean david morton
Well, this would explain a lot of things.
It would explain if this pyramid, which is spotted one day and then is not spotted another, if this pyramid is literally fluxing between dimensional spaces, and when it gets on this side of the dimensional line, if you will, it does seem to kick out a beam of energy.
People before they actually vanish into the Bermuda Triangle seem to go insane.
That's the first thing that occurs.
These pilots begin singing Daisy into their headphones and start spinning around in a circle and eject for no particular reason, pointing directly to some kind of electromagnetic field that actually scrambles the human brain directly before these craft actually disappear.
One other thing, and you will find this, and I think this is one of the most fascinating pieces of evidence that was reported on in the old Omni magazine.
Discover magazine has done it a couple of times.
I actually stumbled across an Apollo 11 photo that I thought looked very, very interesting.
It has to do with the actual fate of Flight 19.
And for those of anybody that's seen close encounters.
art bell
A lot of people think Flight 19 was found.
It was not, in fact, found.
And you get a story like that, and it just doesn't go away.
They did find some planes, but they later confirmed they were not, repeat, not Flight 19.
sean david morton
Well, here's the theory.
The theory is, is that we have a photograph that comes from the original orbits of the Apollo 11 that was then analyzed by OmniMagazine.
Actually, the Spotlight, Omni Magazine, Scientific American did stories on this because they found a chunk of ice in the upper atmosphere that was the exact size and shape of a Grumman A-16 Avenger.
art bell
What?
sean david morton
And this thing was actually floating in orbit around the planet.
art bell
What?
sean david morton
Photographed by Apollo 11.
And the nose plate, it's very interesting because the nose cone itself, what I think I'm going to try to do is I've got it on video, and I'll see if I can actually use my video snappy thing to take pictures or find the old stories on it because they're not going to be able to do it.
art bell
Let me be sure I've got this right.
A block of ice in the shape of a Grumman orbiting the Earth.
sean david morton
Correct.
art bell
Seen and photographed by Apollo 11?
sean david morton
Yes, in one of the photos.
And the analysis was done in Omni magazine.
I don't know if I can find the article or not, but Omni did it.
A newspaper called The Spotlight did another story on it.
Scientific American actually took a look at it where they said this is one of the real mysteries.
Of course, the idea being is that maybe there was some kind of electromagnetic phenomenon that could have literally thrown these craft into orbit.
Of course, the other explanation would be because one of the pilots screamed, don't come after us, they're from outer space just before they disappeared, that maybe something was actually traveling out into space in regards to this, maybe using a vortex there that actually sucked these craft into space with them.
art bell
Are you sure that's what he said?
sean david morton
I am absolutely positive.
That's the whole case.
The Alan Landsberg book on the Bermuda Triangle, where Landsberg researched the entire thing, because they sent out a rescue team after the Avengers, and the rescue team vanished as well.
art bell
Yes, I recall.
sean david morton
So anyway, that's just kind of an interesting mystery, and it all relates back to Atlantis.
And the idea of what I wanted to talk about here was that here you have Atlantis, which possibly is off Cuba, which mystics have said, and psychics and Edgar Casey have said for a long time that the United States and these sections of Florida and the central part of the United States could have in fact been at some time part of Atlantis.
Then you go to the other side of the ocean and you Go to a place that's actually called the Little Soul Bank.
And you're going to be hearing a lot about this when the Atlanta story breaks off of Cuba.
Because by drawing a straight line from where that site is, you actually come across the Little Soul Bank, and it's on Britain's Celtic shelf.
And one of the things that this other Russian scientist, Korderevsky, gave me his name right, is proposing is that if you draw a straight line across England, you'll find that all of the various megalithic sites run in a straight line.
Glastonbury, Bureau Bridge, the Brentley Tor, St. Michael's Mount, Car on St. Michael, the Avebury Stone Circle are all in an exact straight line that actually run across the islands of England all the way to the eastern shore, and that there is another city that they found, another megalithic site underwater at Little Soul Bank on Britain's Celtic Shelf, which is in not that much water.
art bell
But what about social impact?
If this, in fact, is Atlantis and the big news breaks, my God, they're going to have to rewrite all the history books, the social impact of the knowledge of a great civilization like that, 2,200 feet underwater?
I mean, how are we going to handle it?
sean david morton
Well, your guess is as good as mine on that.
I think that the I mean, we've been so purposely kept in the dark.
I don't, I understand it in one aspect, but we're so taught that all of our history just began 5,000 years ago, that we literally just fell out of the sky, or God created the earth in seven days, and here we are.
And the unique thing is, is that the further back in time you go, the more you find that ancient man, whether or not it was the Egyptians or the Mayans or the Aztecs or any of these ancient cultures, seemed to know more about the,
should I say, the pattern or the frequency or the cycle that humanity would actually go through leading up to now, leading up directly to, and this is one of the things that I try to point out over and over and over again, is that the people that are out there that are listening to this program, the people who are just pounding around in their everyday lives, you have no idea how special and how magical this particular age is.
art bell
Yes, but as you point out, they seem to know so much more about this cyclical catastrophic event than we do.
And we're sort of coming toward the time when it's going to occur again.
And if we know less than they did, and they're 2,200 feet below the ocean, where does that leave us?
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I'm never surprised anymore.
You heard what Sean said.
Well, Eric in Michigan says.
Hey, the NASA photo he was talking about, the photo ID for the Apollo 11 airplane photo.
Flight 19 is AS-11-36-5319.
Now, what would a hunk of ice looking just like one of the Flight 19 aircraft be doing in space photographed by Apollo 11?
Good heavens, that is a crazy world we live in, isn't it?
I'm Art Bell.
Sean David Morton.
We'll be right back.
Once again, Sean David Morton, we've got a lot of ground to cover, and we'd better get it done because we have slightly shortened show.
I'm going to try and go back to the five-hour format, given a little improvement in my back this weekend.
Sean, all right, let's move on.
You really got something interesting here about the execution of Kim McVay.
What is going on?
There's all kinds of buzz on the internet about this.
unidentified
What's going on?
sean david morton
Well, as you'll remember, I made the statement on your program on March 3rd that I'd been told by a friend of mine who actually had worked for MI6.
He was a computer expert, and his job was to rate elections in various countries, and he's actually back in England now outfitting the HMS Intrepid, I think.
He told me that McVeigh's, and this is not a psychic prediction, but this is something that I put out there, and then when it actually did occur, there were a lot of very unusual things about the possibility that Timothy McVeigh's death was a hoax,
and that, in fact, that McVeigh is probably off fishing somewhere, which sort of puts this in the Mission Impossible category, where when they put the decoy hearse, because they had a decoy hearse that was then escorted by the federal authorities with the coffin and the whole thing,
and supposedly McVeigh's body was then taken in a white van to an undisclosed location, I sort of laughed about this whole thing because I kept thinking that Tom Cruise and Barney and Peter Lupus and Mr. Phelps were actually at the wheel of the white van.
art bell
Yeah, but the question is, why would they do this after all he blew up a lot of government employees and federal death penalty?
I mean, they would want him executed.
sean david morton
I'll just tell you all the strange things, just all the strange things that actually surround the execution itself.
When I initially said it, I said it because I've been given some information by a very high intelligence guy who said, this is what I think is going to happen.
You know, we're sort of laughing about it in England because we know that this is what's going to come down.
And I thought exactly the same thing.
I said, well, why would they do this?
And number one, you had, I mean, this gets into the whole Oklahoma City bombing and all the various theories.
And I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on this, but I'll just tell you some very unusual things around his demise.
You know, the first thing being is that he never really made a statement.
He was actually given the opportunity to have 20 minutes to make a statement.
He never did.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
He passed out a, even at his trial when he was convicted, he made a, instead of actually making a statement in regards to the governments, he made a very sort of vacuous statement about the Constitution and about his rights or whatever.
The fact that you had the executioner, some of the Unusual things that went down about this is that, number one, the executioner was flown in from somewhere out of state.
His name has not been revealed, and that's kind of unusual because they have a staff, especially in federal penitentiaries, where they will usually have a team of people that sometimes rotate.
For example, if they have firing squads in Utah, they'll have seven people who actually do the firing squad.
They usually have these a team of doctors who will actually come in and administer the juice.
art bell
Yeah, but because of the nuts out there and the whole Waco thing and all the rest of it, I can imagine they wouldn't give out the name of the executioner to protect the executioner.
sean david morton
Well, it's also just, it was very strange because then when he actually died, I wrote an entire article on this, and I'm just trying to remember all the very salient points.
The fact that he didn't make a statement, they passed out a, that his own attorney, originally, Stephen, it was government-appointed attorneys.
His family didn't attend.
Government-appointed attorneys were actually handling everything that was going on, including the cremation in a secret location.
His father was up picking strawberries.
His sister didn't come.
The fact that he then, and this is what struck me as very unusual about the whole thing, is that his eyes didn't close when he died.
They strapped him to the table.
They juiced him up with this.
And it's a three-set process.
Actually, they originally pour you with...
Yeah, there's three plungers that go into this.
There's a diethyl chloride that originally goes in, then you're put to sleep.
Which puts you to sleep.
Then there's a muscle relaxant that they actually put in, which actually then relaxes the muscles.
And then they juice you up with potassium.
And the potassium then stops the heart.
And I just thought it was kind of unusual that they said that his eyes never closed, that he just glazed over and stiffened up, that there was not a heart monitor present.
There didn't seem to be, there was not a doctor who actually had a stethoscope to check to see if he was dead.
It was very unusual because then you had Bo Greitz later on, who came on Hardball and MSNBC, who made the statement that one of the reporters actually at the scene, and Bo Greitz did not release this reporter's name, and I don't know who it is, had claimed that they saw him breathing after he was supposed to have been dead.
The other strange thing about it was too is that, and this was noted by all of the reporters there, was that he turned kind of an unusual yellow color.
Now, I actually called an anesthesiologist here in Beverly Hills and asked them about the process, about could you juice something up, somebody up with these sleeping drugs first.
And of course, the anesthesiologist joke and said, well, you know, it's my job to put people to sleep and then wake them up.
So, I mean, I don't know that much about, you know, I know that this is the process that they use, but it struck me as very unusual that his eyes stayed open, that his body stiffened instead of relaxed.
And the yellow color is very unusual because somebody dying usually just goes pale as the blood and the lividity pools.
But there is a drug out there which was originally brought from Haiti called the zombie drug.
Remember the old movie Serpent in the Rainbow of Wade Davis?
Yes.
This zombie drug is called detrodotoxin.
And what they use it for is primarily for simulating death.
Yeah, it simulates death.
It simulates a death-like state.
art bell
But again, my question is, and I wonder if you have any answer to it at all, what would be the possible motivation for this?
sean david morton
Well, that McVeigh towed the, that number one, they needed a Patsy.
Number two, they needed a lone gunman, an Oswald, if you will.
Number three, he towed the government line, even lying all the way down the line.
There were certain things that he said, and even his first attorney, the first man who represented him, a guy named, I think it was Stephen Taylor is the gentleman's name, the man who first represented him said that McVeigh is lying, that he's either protecting a large conspiracy or another group of people, but that I am not going to, that McVeigh has told a complex series of lies that these series of lies make no sense in the face of the actual physical evidence.
For example, two bombs within the building, the actual seismic footprint that was reported by...
Like I said, I don't want to get into this whole thing because we haven't opened up the entire deal.
The honest thing about it was that I talked about, I was told by an intelligence agent that his death would be faked, that it would be kind of an elaborate coach, that his body would be cremated, there would be mysterious things around this.
And lo and behold, all of these kind of bizarre and unusual things did happen around his death, including the decoy limousine, the yellow texture to his skin, a reporter actually reporting that he was still breathing after he's supposed to be dead.
Nobody really checking the body, no family members actually showing up at his funeral.
And this is even stranger.
Two weeks before he died, actually a month before he died, Weekly World News, you know, it does the Bat Boy and all that, actually ran a morgue photo of Timothy McVeigh, obviously going to press before they had actually put Timothy McVay's execution back a month so that one is strange.
Front cover of, you know, is this morgue photo of Timothy McVay.
art bell
All right, look, let's switch gears very quickly, and I'll try and digest all of that.
You have come on here many times and made predictions with regard to the stock market, and they've been so pretty much right on, I mean, to within a few points, that I've got to ask you what's coming.
Now, the market is obviously a pretty big bear market right now, and I heard some financial channel predictions that are pretty dire about the possibility of a recession.
So we're kind of treading water now, and it's a weird time in the market.
What's coming?
sean david morton
Well, when I was last on your show, and actually we did, I think, a very brief 20 or 30-minute thing on, I think it was April 3rd, my original prediction was, and this was on March 3rd, when I talked about the NASDAQ, because the NASDAQ was in the greatest state of flux at the moment, where I talked about that on April 5th,
and this is on the March 3rd program, that on April 5th that I saw the NASDAQ, and it was actually going to be between the 5th and the, and the greatest set of flux would be right around the 5th and about the 20th of April, that I saw the NASDAQ at approximately, I think it was 1789.67, I think it was.
But that also, and this is kind of weird because it was a two-tone prediction.
My prediction was that if you saw the NASDAQ dip below 1700, that we were in big trouble, that it was going to be sort of the dust bowl of the computer age.
But this is what was really strange, is that on the one hand, I said, okay, if you see it dip below the 1700, but yet I also see the market actually at the 1789 level on the 5th of April because of the mathematical programs that I was actually using in part to predict this.
So here's what's interesting.
The markets themselves, and I've talked about this a lot, actually are responsive to sunspot cycles.
And my theory is that solar flares and CMEs and coronal mass ejections and various activities on the sun have a direct effect, I think, on the limbic system of the brain.
And the market runs primarily off two major factors, greed and fear.
When people are greedy, they buy, usually, and when they're afraid, they sell.
And these mega cycles on the sun seem to trigger a tension.
I can't explain it really.
I just know that it works.
art bell
Oh, I believe that.
sean david morton
And what happened was that you had this huge coronal mass ejection.
If you remember on April 3rd, you had a, it went off the chart.
It went off the X-Class chart.
They originally called it, I think, an X21 and later reclassified it as a Y1.
And people don't seem to realize the magnitude of that.
But that's like saying, well, we've just had an earthquake that goes off the Richter scale.
And we've had to actually come up with a whole new classification for an earthquake that's an 11.
This gigantic solar flare.
Mega flare, mega flare, just misses the planet.
All the markets plunge on April 3rd.
The NASDAQ goes down to 1634.
I mean, heading straight down.
Everybody thought it was going right in the toilet.
When we spoke on the 3rd of April, I said, well, I believe it's going to go back up.
I've seen it going underneath 1700, but right now I think it's going to go back up to my point.
And two days later, literally on April 5th, I think it was Tuesday was April 3rd.
Let me see.
Yeah, Tuesday was April 3rd.
And on April 5th, which was that Thursday, the NASDAQ recovered and actually hit my mark within less than three points.
art bell
Right.
sean david morton
Which was actually, I think it closed on that Thursday at $1787.92, I think.
art bell
And therein is the history, but where is it going?
sean david morton
Here's where we're at.
Where we're at now is that it's good news and bad news.
The good news is that when the markets spike, in other words, when they go very, very high and then have the gigantic peaks and valleys, which is one of the things that you've seen, you've seen over the last few years or so,
as this sun cycle has gotten more and more ferocious, it's very interesting because you have these intense periods of greed and fear, quite literally, where people are buying, buying, buying, and the market then shoots up and then they sell all at once and then it shoots down and it bounces back up.
One of my big predictions being last year is that you saw the October crash, which was a huge prediction because there had never been a crash or a collapse of the stock market before presidential election in U.S. history.
And people just lost millions because I said the market was going to go to about 12,000, just tickled the underside of 12,000, and then drastically dropped between October, I think it was October 12th and the 19th was in the newsletter that I wrote about it.
Here's where it's at.
I thought that what you were going to see is that you were going to see bigger spikes in the market actually this summer.
In other words, I thought that you would see a big swing.
In other words, a downward spike in the market between June and July, and then an upward spike August, September, and then late October, you were going to see another big collapse, another huge drop.
Now, I was talking about the Dow Johnson.
art bell
Right, but it's just been languishing.
sean david morton
Right.
It's just kind of, you know, the NASDAQ I pretty much called all through.
I said the NASDAQ's going to go back to $1789, and then it's going to trade between $2,000 and $2,300 all summer, and that's exactly where it's been.
Now, what's happened just in the last day or so, and this is what I thought was interesting over this last week, once again, another huge bout of solar activity in this last week.
They reported on the weather here saying that satellites are being goofed up.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
Big coronavirus.
Yeah, big time.
sean david morton
Market drops.
Market goes down yesterday.
It was at 10,293.50.
That was the Dow Jones, and the NAVS was at like 1966.
But now the blue chips rallied today.
Once again, the solar system, and I think the sun's going to go into a quiescent period for about two months or so.
The blue chips began to rally today.
Various inflationary factors came out where they weren't as bad.
The next quarter was not as bad as people believed.
art bell
Productivity was up.
sean david morton
But this is the sucker thing.
This is the thing, is that because the market hasn't gone as high as I expected, because I thought we would see the market around $11,000 right about now, and then right about $11,000, $11.2,000, $11.50, once again, a repeat of last year where you'd see a huge spike in October and then a gigantic drop.
The good news is that because the market has been, how can I say languishing, to use your term, languishing around the 10.5 between about 10,000 and 10.5 or so, that's actually very good.
The reason it's good is because it shows that the fluctuations of this year were not as bad as I expected.
We're still going to see from right now, and here's the prediction I'll make, and this is from the Delphi newsletter.
People subscribe to the newsletter, they write letters all the time and say, oh my God, I paid $500, $600 for financial newsletters, and you hit it on the head every time, that the market's going to go, begin to start moving up.
The big thing that you need to watch, and this is going to connect it directly to fires, earth changes, earthquakes in the Washington, Oregon, and Northern California area, are going to have to do with another, I think, one last gasp solar cycle that's going to start around the 20th of October or so.
And it's going to last a long time.
It's going to last probably about 30 days or so.
Because we're just at the end now, finally, of this 11-year cycle, which, by the way, started like three years ago.
art bell
We're coming to the end of the peak.
sean david morton
Right.
We're coming to the end of this peak now through the fall.
And as this thing peaks, you're going to see these big drops in the market this fall.
Once again, repeating a cycle.
And I've said this now over, I think, about the last three years.
So watch the October cycle because we're going through right now a rise in the Dow Jones and not so much the NASDAQ.
The NASDAQ has been shaken out.
A lot of the suckers have been taken out of that.
The NASDAQ is going to rebuild itself next year.
And we'll talk about a number of companies that I think, well, it's two companies in particular, that I think are going to fund, are going to be huge investments for people and are going to have a lot to do with bringing the NASDAQ back, which includes what Microsoft is going to do next year.
art bell
But you basically are saying that if you get on the ride toward October, it's a sucker bet.
sean david morton
I think so.
My projection now with the market at about with the Dow specifically at about 10,300 or so is you'll see a big spike between now and late September.
Because it's been so late, the rise has been so late in the summer, I think it'll ride all the way through September through about October 20th.
But my advice to everybody is that for the market, this next 60 days is going to be as high as the market's going to get in this period.
And then you're going to see, once again, massive solar activity.
And if you've got stocks, and specifically the Dow Jones, I'd get out of the market altogether.
If you're going to buy something, buy it now or hang on to what it is you've got and then sell and get out about the 10th of October.
You always, I wouldn't even say the end of September because you never want to get out at the top.
You always want to, you know, JPMorgan said, you know, nobody ever lost money selling short.
You know, he'd get up just at the top of the wave and you let the other guys take the risk at the top and ride the roller coaster the other way down.
So my projection being, is that, and this is my original projection was that I thought, and this was, of course, about six months or so ago, that you would see the market back up into the 11,500 range or so by October with the last big spike.
But that was bad news because if the market falls from there, then we're really in economic trouble.
The good news is the market has literally been in this 10,500 range being fairly even and fairly steady, which means the drops won't be quite so big.
And it means that the economy is going to rebuild itself next year from all the chaos of 2001, 2002, which is a four-year numerologically.
art bell
All right.
sean david morton
It's going to be all about rebuilding.
art bell
All right.
We've got to pause here.
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Stay right where you are.
art bell
We'll pick up on that and take a look at the NASDAQ here on the other side of the break and then break into new territory.
Lots of ground to cover I'm Arthell.
This is coast to coast AM roaring through the night like a freight train.
Don't touch that tile.
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Happy.
art bell
The End Well, cover the Dow and where it's going to go and what's going to happen in October, which is kind of an unfriendly month to the market historically anyway.
But I wonder about the NASDAQ.
I mean, it took such a beating and now it's sort of sitting there languishing around.
What's going to happen to the NASDAQ?
sean david morton
Well, it's, gosh, a couple of things, and as I said earlier on the show, or actually said it, as I said back in March and then again in April, was that the primary thing about the NASDAQ is that it was my opinion, and I think we disagreed a little on this, but it was my opinion that the NASDAQ was being purposely collapsed so that all of these kind of dot-com companies are now,
which are now dot-gone, as they're calling them, are being bought up by these larger companies, the ones that are actually worth buying up, to then consolidate and confederate what's going on with the Internet.
The biggest thing has to do with the release of certain technologies that I think are coming directly out of Area 51 and some of the amazing things that are about to be released from places like where research is being done at places like the National Science Foundation.
A very good friend of mine is actually one of the directors.
She's the woman who actually gives out the grants for the NSF.
art bell
Really kind of a continuation of the Corso story.
Exactly.
sean david morton
Exactly.
There is, you know, for everybody familiar with Corso, he was given a series of files and certain types of technology, and he was then told to drop it into various military-industrial complex areas where they were already doing research in that particular field.
So whereas Bell was actually developing night vision, they would go over and say, well, here's this lens, and you put it up against your eye, and you can see in the dark.
And we got it from the French.
You know, here, see what you can do with it.
The same kind of thing is actually happening with a series of companies.
And one of the most interesting companies to watch, and I talked about this on your last show, has to do with a company called Omnigon.
Now, Omnigon's been, it sort of is no more.
Omnigon became a company.
It keeps morphing.
And here's the strange thing about it is that they've got all this potential to do some amazing things.
And yet the company keeps kind of shifting and changing.
And the more prospectuses you actually read about them, the more they tell you, you know, don't invest, don't invest.
We don't want your money.
It's just very odd because OmniGon then went from, and this is how I learned about it at first.
I first learned about it through some people who were dealing in computers, people who were writing code, literally for the Navy, various types of encryption code, who also work in the entertainment business doing CGI.
And then I heard about it as well.
This company was then mentioned again in a transcript of a body of materials which is called the Wingmakers, where there's an interview with this Dr. Jameson Naruta.
And Dr. Naruta talks about Omnigon, a company down in San Diego, as being given a series of alien mathematics.
In fact, it's a number of alien algorithms that are going to revolutionize the way mathematics works and the way they can actually do compression directly over the internet.
The idea being is that they want to be able to, over current phone lines, that with this technology increase broadband speeds by some 10,000 times, and that after they increase the broadband speeds, that they'll be able to pretty much wire up the world.
art bell
Boy, that's a lot over copper.
sean david morton
Yeah, well, here's the strange thing about it, is then the company morphed into something called OPI, and then it got bought by another company called Invest America.
And Invest America has all kinds of very, very spooky things going on with it, including a direct connection to the United Nations, and if you actually look them up, I'm trying to look into the paperwork here that I have on this.
Where did Omni-Gon go?
I had the paperwork right in front of me.
But if you look them up through the United Nations, through what's called a UNDF file, it actually connects directly to the United Nations.
They actually have an office for outer space.
Did you know this at the UN?
No.
It's actually called the United Nations Office of Outer Space.
art bell
Well, I mean, I do know they have passed some laws about extraterrestrial contact and that sort of thing in the past at the UN.
sean david morton
So here's what's interesting is that, and this links into what we were talking about at the beginning of the program.
At the beginning of the show, one of the things that I was trying to say, we didn't really get to it, is that a large amount of the technology, we're talking about the TR-3A, the anti-gravitic technology, all of the stuff that they're using, has now been moved to Utah.
A lot of stuff was moved out of Area 51 and out of actually Arizona into a couple of locations in Utah.
The first is what they call Area 6413, which is near Green River.
And the other one, and this is, I don't think anybody knows about this place, but the other one is under Kings Peak, which is in the Unenta, it's on the Uenta Indian Reservation in the Uenta One Indian Wilderness.
art bell
Oh, you ought to be able to find some hills that would look down on it.
sean david morton
Well, it's 13,000 feet.
It's the biggest peak there.
And the idea being is that this is now where the Black Operation, what they literally call the United States Space Command, has moved.
And one of the most fascinating things about this is that, and he really hasn't been mentioned much, but I think he's every bit as important as Colonel Corso.
He just didn't write as well as Corso did.
But he is the late Colonel Steve Wilson, who was a United States Air Force retired.
And Steve Wilson talked, gave us a huge amount of information about the whole Black Ops program.
He talked about the U.S. Space Command operating out of this mountain in Utah, that this craft called the Nautilus, this electromagnetic pulse drive, makes trips twice a week to a secret military intelligence space station that they've had in deep space, he claims, for 30 years.
But, you know, they're talking about the Aurora.
They're talking about tests of what they call the TR-3A, which is the anti-gravity craft.
And, of course, you've got the X-33 Venture Star that's actually being tested in that same location.
Now, Hill Air Force Base actually has the contract to repair the B-2 bombers.
And this company, Omnagon, just recently moved up to Park City, Utah.
So everything is actually sort of focused in there.
The IMVT stock is actually, when I first recommended it, I think I talked about it in my newsletter back in April, the stock was at about 6 cents or so, and it went as high as 48 cents.
And then it went back down to, I think it's back down to about 18 cents a share or so.
But I think that this technology, that they've actually had their hands on an international fiber optic system that is going to lay a new footprint for telecommunications.
The other thing that people need to watch is going to be what Microsoft is going to do.
And this is where this all connects also with military technology.
A lot of people who are familiar with various conspiracy theories probably know Danny Casalero.
Danny, I actually knew because I live in Hermosa Beach and he lived for a while in Redondo Beach and worked for a magazine called Computer Times.
And we became friendly in the late 1980s or so.
And Danny was investigating something called the InSlaw scandal.
And just very, very briefly, a company called Inslaw was developing a computer program for the government in the 1980s that they called the Promise software.
This software was then basically stolen by the Reagan administration.
And the officials of Inslaw, when they tried to actually sue the Reagan administration, were, I mean, they were arrested on all kinds of trumped-up, outrageous charges and fought the government tooth and nail with this program.
art bell
What was the Promise?
sean david morton
The Promise software is, what the program did is it was designed for the Justice Department.
So if you were, let's say, an investigator for the Justice Department and you were investigating Juan Garcia and he's an international crime lord and he's smuggling guns into the country, that would come under BATS.
If he was smuggling people, that would come under INS.
If he was smuggling drugs, that would be BEA.
So what the PROMIS software does combines it all.
Exactly.
Goes and searches these files and would find a face, a fingerprint, a name, an alias, anything that would relate to this particular individual you're investigating.
Copy that information, send it back to the mother computer in what they call bubbles.
And this bubble would then float to the top to where the main Justice Department file was.
So it was a way to find things.
Now, of course, the military applications for this were you could track boats, you could track submarines, but of course you could track every human being on Earth.
And that was one of the things that Inslaw didn't want it used for was actually to be used to track people and to be used by the military, which is exactly what the Reagan administration did with it.
So now Microsoft has their hands on this same program.
And Bill Gates just announced in, I think, Fortune magazine this last month that his whole goal is to completely, and you're going to be hearing this term a lot, Catholicize the internet.
In other words, turn it into a universal system.
And what he's doing is he's got something that's called XML.
And XML is going to basically take everything, the HTML, the rich text format, all of these various formats that you have on the internet, and universalize them or Catholicize them, literally, the word actually meaning universal, so that you actually have a massive computer system.
Then he's going to introduce his own, I think what they're literally calling .com, which will then come along as an internet service provider, sort of an ASP, if you will, with everything, your finances, your checking, your bank account, your credit cards, your car payment, your insurance.
And then you would have one access point through literally like a cell phone or a Palm pilot or whatever to have access to virtually all your information on the Internet.
art bell
Oh, I'm sure it's coming.
You know, I went to the Super Bowl this year, and all of our faces were scanned.
Every single face that walked into the Super Bowl got scanned.
sean david morton
And what's the possible purpose behind that?
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What could it be?
sean david morton
To find terrorists?
art bell
Well, it fits right in.
I don't know.
Listen, we're so short on time.
We've got so much to cover.
You know, I wrote a book with Whitley Streeper.
sean david morton
Of course, I've read it.
art bell
Superstorm.
Now, there's a lot going on with this book, but there's a lot going on with the weather.
And what we wrote then is now coming true.
Even our nation's best meteorologists are beginning to say, yes, there's a rapid climate change underway now.
And that it's been going on for perhaps six years.
Now, they're just continuing onto it right now, but most of them are saying, yes, it's underway, and they don't know how far it's going to go, but it's really cooking along right now, and the climate is definitely changing.
What do you see ahead?
sean david morton
Well, the biggest change that I see, this is all leading us up to 2012.
And the 2012 date over and over and over again, even though it was a date that is marked by the Great Pyramid of Giza.
art bell
End of the Mayan calendar.
sean david morton
End of the Mayan calendar, December 21st of 2012.
And of course, and this is the captain-obvious observation, is that remember that solar cycles go every 11 years.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
So if this solar cycle ends this December 11 years from now, which is also, it's interesting that this is the year of the actually the year of the golden snake, and you're actually going to have 12 years from now, you're actually kind of the year of, I think, of the blue-silver snake.
So it's another snake year, actually a dragon year and then a snake year.
So another 12 years from now, isn't it interesting that you are going to have the sun going through, I presume what's going to be called cycle 24, because this cycle, the super cycle, has been going through cycle 23, which is interesting because that's the number of, literally the number of ladders in human DNA is 23.
You split them in half and it's 46.
But cycle 24 comes along, and now you have the sun at a gigantic solar peak with coronal mass ejections that could possibly threaten life on Earth as we know it.
But now the sun is moving through a spot in the sky at 27 degrees Sagittarius, which is the ending of the Mayan calendar, where you have the sun giving off this massive cosmic radiation and is now somehow connected at that particular spot in the sky with the exact center of the galaxy at 27 degrees Sagittarius.
So what is it the Mayans know?
Oh, and also in that year, we have a total solar eclipse that occurs directly across the western half of the United States and then lines up directly over the Great Pyramid of Chitsenitsa in the Yucatan.
So on May 20th, we have a solar eclipse where you have the sun, the moon, and the Pleiades on the 20th of May in 2012 lining up directly over the top of the pyramid of Chitsenitsa.
So here you have an ancient structure, and actually the pyramids in Guise are the same way.
An ancient structure that is built in such a way that it's built approximately 650, 750 BC or so, but the whole city is built askew.
It's akimbo, if you will.
It's out of whack because the whole planet is now moving into this alignment and is now showing us the purpose of what these buildings were actually built to point to, which is the end of this great age of man, December 21st of 2012.
art bell
What happened?
Okay, but I want to know two things.
One, between now and 2012, what do we look forward to?
At 2012, what do we look forward to?
sean david morton
Okay, we're looking between now and 2012.
And this is one of the things.
And let me give you the chain of events of what I think is happening.
Number one, you've got this massive solar cycle which heats up the Earth.
And of course, what happens is you have a global warming period, which then begins to melt the ice caps, which then increases the water mass on the planet, which then increases the pressure on the land mass itself, which then triggers a series of, actually,
first volcanoes and then massive earthquakes, which then dumps a massive amount of silicates into the atmosphere, sort of a nuclear winter, if you will, which then actually plunges us not into a global heat age, but in fact, a global ice age.
And of course, that has been, anybody who watches the Discovery Channel and sees the giant swings in the various ice ages, seems to be within scientific experts are saying, approximately 50 years that we might actually be looking at an ice age.
Now, and this is one of the reasons why I wanted to bring up, I wanted to talk about, are we going off at 2 o'clock or 1 o'clock?
art bell
2 o'clock.
sean david morton
Okay, because I really wanted to give Edgar Casey some credit here, even though many of his prophecies and predictions have sort of slacked off from 1972 with the eruption of Mount Aetna.
And Aetna's, this is why Aetna scares me to death.
Aetna scares me to death because not only is it the triggering of these volcanoes, because last year, the year 2000, I predicted was going to be the year of the volcanoes.
We had, I think, got a record of them.
It was 29 volcanoes, I think, erupted last year.
I talked about volcanoes erupting in the Philippines.
Mayola, I think, is going now.
art bell
Yeah, everybody's talked about Aetna.
Casey, Scallion, everybody said, watch Aetna.
It's the key for the beginning.
sean david morton
Well, here's what's happening with Aetna.
And this was a news story from three days ago, that the lava that's coming out of Aetna is lava that's not just on the lower layers.
This is lava in a section of the Earth we haven't seen for 16,000 years.
And the news story itself was saying that this is actually lava that's coming literally from deep, deep, deep within the earth, from 16,000 years ago.
This lava is being released.
Another thing that people don't seem to realize is that when you have these ancient gases erupting, there is a direct link between volcanic activity and plagues.
Now, I know this sounds kind of odd.
art bell
Not that odd.
sean david morton
There are things that directly connect the black plague of the 16th century, between about 1500 and 1560 or so, directly with a series of volcanoes, once again with Aetna exploding and Vesuvius.
And remember, the Casey, the Edgar Casey triggered, and we've got to give the old guy some credit here because Even though I don't think the magnitude of his prophecies are quite possibly going to come true, the pattern that he spoke of I think is unique and worth noting.
That number one, he talked about in the late 1970s that there would be a volcano that would erupt in the Pacific Northwest.
And of course, that was Mount St. Helens.
The Indian legend is that when Little Sister speaks, Big Brother answers, and of course that's Mount Rainier.
One of the big predictions that I made this last year was on February 19th, I was writing the newsletter, I predicted a 7.0 quake deep, deep, about 40 to 60 miles down underneath Rainier, and that this would be the trigger for the eruption of Mount Rainier within about two years.
The trigger would be Rainier, Aetna, which has just blown, Vesuvius, which will blow again.
And then we've had the countdown, if you will, to the big prediction of Casey's, which is the island of Montserrat, which is now erupting and has been erupting for a while.
Now, Montserrat, the last time it erupted, was 1899, and it went for about two years or so before Mount Pele on the island of Martinique blew in 1901.
So we're in that countdown now, and of course, Casey's big prediction was that when Mount Pele blows, that you would have a series of superquakes, literally the mega quakes that he saw cracking the western shelf of the United States within 90 days of the eruption of Mount Pele.
And the one thing that, on the one hand, the reason people sort of poo-poo Casey's predictions is because Casey said that the pattern of his predictions would begin between 1958 and 1998.
Well, of course, we passed through 1998, and people said, well, obviously all these dire things didn't happen.
And he also said that, you know, the Hall of Records would be found in Egypt in 1998.
And some people say it was found and looted.
Nobody told us about it.
And other people say it wasn't.
But here's the one quote from his prophecies and predictions, which I find the most frightening.
That he said that even though he saw the pattern between 58 and 98, that the major bulk of what he saw occurring to the planet happened directly after the year 2000, and that the majority of it would begin between 2001 and about 2005.
And this directly relates to the Great Pyramid of Giza and the time coding in Giza.
And of course, you've been there when you go down into the pit and you have to crawl down that hole, and then you stand up in the pit chamber, and you can walk for a period of about 20 feet or so, and there's a hole right there.
You can actually walk around the hole, and that hole in the edge of the floor that leads down into the pit, that directly relates to the year 2005, because that's going to be the crux point of when 2005 is when everything is going to build up between 2005 and 2006.
art bell
All right, hold it right there.
We've got a break here at the top of the hour, and we do have one more live hour to go.
Sean David Morton is my guest.
We're going to talk more about the weather between now and 2012.
2005, huh?
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art bell
Once again, Sean David Morton.
Sean, welcome back.
Again, I want to cover, if possible, between now and 2005 or even 2012, already most people can see a profound difference in the weather, a big difference in the weather.
Where is that headed?
sean david morton
Okay.
art bell
How quickly is it going to worsen?
sean david morton
Well, the biggest thing that you saw this year that I thought was, and remember we're talking about an entire cycle, but the biggest thing that we saw this year is that my prediction for the year was that I thought that the hurricane season would be particularly flat this year, but that we would see these land-based storms, that we would start moving into a period where you would see mega tornadoes, freak tornadoes.
And I think all the way back in 1994, gosh, on the show that long ago, we were talking about what I was calling hypercanes.
And hypercanes and actually supercanes.
These hurricanes would get bigger and bigger and bigger.
art bell
And that's exactly, I saw a CNN story and they said that's exactly what's going to happen about the second or third revision already this year.
They said, look out, they're going to get really big.
sean david morton
Right.
I think there's going to be less of them this year, though.
I think it's just going to be a flattened out year for hurricanes.
But once again, we're finding these storms that are literally kind of popping up out of nowhere that are monstrous but are moving in through land.
And one of my big predictions was that Tornado Alley this year would have these super tornadoes, these F3, four, and five tornadoes that would whack these various areas.
The same thing in regards to tornado activity in England, where they've never really had them before.
So I mean, if you're dealing with, well, not if, we are dealing with the reduction of the Larsen ice shelf in the South Pole, that that is increasing the water levels on the planet.
Remember, the planet's always going to be, it's always going to be two-thirds water, one-third land.
So you have to, which is the same ratio of water to mass in the human body, it just means that certain land masses are going to begin to rise and other land masses are going to begin to sink.
art bell
Indeed, there are some people moving off a Pacific Island right now that is sinking, or actually, I guess more accurately, the water is rising.
sean david morton
Well, think about this.
In just the next five to ten years, if you're looking at the world water levels rising by, let's say conservatively, let's say they rise by two feet, I mean, that puts the entire state of Florida, or should I say most of the state of Florida, pretty much underwater.
art bell
Pretty much.
sean david morton
Because the whole center part of the state is anywhere from three to six feet below sea level.
The idea here being is that as sunspots begin to increase, that is going to increase these savage summers that we've been having.
But remember, too, that the winters are going to start to get shorter, but much colder, which is exactly what we've also been seeing here.
art bell
Yeah, you've got some sort of prediction, don't you, about a very cold, super cold winter.
sean david morton
With whole sections of the Great Lakes Actually, freezing.
That's what will happen actually this year: that you're going to have big chunks of Lake Michigan and Huron and Erie and Superior are going to begin to freeze over.
And remember, once again, when you go through a huge hot spell, that we're going to go through these savage winters at the same time.
art bell
Extremes, extremes on both ends.
sean david morton
And of course, and as this swings back and forth, it's going to affect the food supply directly.
I mean, nobody's really talking about what's going to happen with food.
And I mean, how many times can you have these farmers just get kicked in the teeth over and over and over again and lose bees?
art bell
Well, that's right.
I mean, we feed ourselves and we feed the world.
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Right.
sean david morton
And, you know, and I think, and this also goes back to investments again, the one thing that people are really looking for is that whole food stores and it used to be called Mrs. Gucci's, but Whole Foods and Natural Health Food Stores are going to proliferate because people are just rejecting out of hand the whole, I think, corporate grab to control the food supply using genetically engineered foods through Monsanto, who is, they don't even call themselves Monsanto anymore.
They got so much heat for their genetic engineering, they actually changed their name to Pharmacea or Pharma CIA, as some people call it.
Literally changing their names to dodge the protest over all these genetically engineered foods.
art bell
We may need them the way it's going.
sean david morton
It is quite possible, though.
I mean, you know, on the upside of that, that we're going to need foods that are going to grow in certainly more harsh and more severe environments in order to feed the world population.
Over the next, for example, gosh, we only got about 45 minutes here, but.
art bell
Oh, by the way, let's stop.
I want to give you a chance in that time remaining to plug your newsletter.
sean david morton
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have very fat cats, and unless I plug the newsletter, they don't get fed.
Yeah, we're actually running a special on the show tonight, just very briefly, and then we'll get back to it.
Just for this program, we've actually opened up all the phone banks we've done with a much larger company.
They'll be standing by all weekend, and the newsletter is $60 for a 12-issue one-year subscription.
It's 16 pages.
It's full color.
I think it's actually one of the best things out there.
And actually, I think if they buy my newsletter and After Dark, you're pretty much set because I try to tell you what's going to happen in the future.
And After Dark comes along.
And by the way, I want to mention Lex Lonehood and Lisa Lyon, who are your editors and writers at After Dark.
Thank you.
Because they're top-notch, and that magazine is great-looking.
And I really, really, very much appreciated the articles that they did this last month.
So thank you, and also a shout-out to them and some props because they really do a great job month after month for you.
art bell
But tonight's special on the Delphios.
sean david morton
Tonight's special is that for one time only, we're going to offer you $10 off a newsletter.
You have to mention Art Bell and call 888-452-7999.
art bell
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sean david morton
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art bell
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sean david morton
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If you mention Art Bell, we're going to knock $10 off the price of the newsletter.
art bell
And they're there right now, right?
sean david morton
They're there now.
They've opened up dozens of phone banks, actually.
And even if it gets busy, it'll roll over to another set of banks.
So we went to a great deal of trouble to set it up this week so that everybody that calls between now and Monday will get through with the $50 rate.
It's $10 off, and this is for new subscribers only.
art bell
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sean david morton
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It's $50 for the flat rate.
You've got to mention Art Bell and say, I heard Sean on Art Bell, and I want to subscribe to the Delphi Associates newsletter.
The special will go on through Monday.
So if there's some problem tonight, you can go all the way through Monday and get on.
So thank you very much for that.
art bell
All right.
sean david morton
Okay, getting back to, I'm sorry, we were talking specifically about the weather.
This season, let me just project through this season.
It'll be a particularly flat season, I think, for hurricanes.
But the biggest thing is going to be the savagely cold winters with 70 blow in places like Colorado and Wyoming and Montana, the places where you're seeing this now.
art bell
Is the weather being managed?
sean david morton
You know, to tell you the truth, every time they turn the HAARP project on up in Alaska, it actually creates a rift in the jet stream, which then slams the jet stream down the western coast.
And you can watch it.
I mean, when they put it on the weather channel and suddenly the guy's standing in front of the map and the jet stream just suddenly dips all the way down, you can see that there's some kind of anomaly going on when they turn this gigantic antenna farm up on in Alaska.
And at the same time, there are companies that are announcing that they are using various types of cloud-seeding chemicals to actually break up and stop hurricanes and various types of storms.
And who knows how this can be directly related to the mystery of what's been going on with the chemtrails and the fact that there's actually barium in this stuff, and the barium is somehow interlinked with the electromagnetic frequencies of the HAARP project.
It can actually be used for communications.
There's announcements in, you know, this is just popular science.
I mean, this is just, you know, it's really funny.
Both of our jobs are sort of revolved around not only trying to convince people of what's possible, but just trying to tell them what's possible is so utterly fantastic.
art bell
I know a lot of people just plain don't believe it, but I do.
I'm convinced there's manipulation going on, and I don't know if it's to prevent problems or whether they're actually creating them.
I would imagine the intentions are good, but I'll tell you something.
You stop a cloud formation.
You stop a lightning storm.
You stop a tornado or a hurricane.
And you're preventing Mother Nature from releasing energy that needs to be released.
And if it doesn't happen there, it's going to happen somewhere else.
And it may be bigger.
sean david morton
Yeah, well said.
I mean, the North Koreans were accusing the United States of using weather manipulation to destroy the communist regime.
The massive humongous rout that North Korea was having.
And the starvation of most of their people and the food supply.
There are people, and This goes into these weird cartels again, the various royal families, the Bilderbergers who meet every year.
And actually, the real name of the Bildeburgers, the inner core, is about 15 men who then have about 600, their syncophants or so, very wealthy politicians and kings and queens and prime ministers called the Nkuna Bula on the inside.
But there's also a gang in Bern, Switzerland called the Nereus Syndicate, and they're linked directly into weather modification and manipulation for literally for investing in commodities, that they can actually shut down.
Spain was one of the people, was one of the ones that actually complained in the European community that there were these mysterious planes that were breaking up cloud formations in Spain to destroy the crops in Spain because of their introduction into the European market and the fact that they wanted to destroy various crops in Spain so that the price didn't drop particularly low on things like corn and wheat and what have you.
And Spain was actually claiming that the various European countries were destroying their agricultural industry so that when Spain enters the economic union, food prices wouldn't drop across the board.
And they had photographs of these planes that were seeding clouds.
I mean, they're sort of their version of the chemtrail mystery over there.
But there are these people like the Nerea Syndicate that are out there using this technology, both electromagnetic technology and chemical, to, I think, manipulate the weather.
I think the economic purpose behind it would probably be to, once again, control the food supply.
I mean, that's the one thing that they really need to get their hands on.
You need to destroy the family farmer.
You need to corporatize food because now they control everything else.
They control the choke points of communications.
You and I both know.
There's like, what, 10 guys that own everything now.
My God, all the radio stations are owned by like one guy.
But they have the choke point of control on information, which is the media.
art bell
Yeah, we call him Daddy.
sean david morton
On Daddy, all right?
Signs the check, big daddy.
That controls the choke points of media.
And, you know, there's very few free outlets.
This program is one of the few major free outlets where there is an intelligent, wondrous exchange of ideas on a nightly basis, and you are to be commended for that throughout the ages, I might say.
art bell
Well, that's because I am so stubborn and so probably in a way self-centered that I will not allow any interference whatsoever.
sean david morton
No, it doesn't have anything to do with being self-centered.
It has to do with being other-centered because you are concerned about allowing others a form to express their ideas.
art bell
So I wouldn't put it that way.
I think it gets me in constant trouble, though.
sean david morton
Well, because the people at the top look at it as being, it's chaos, it's anarchy.
You can't not screen your calls.
art bell
You can't have people calling in with their crazy theories.
What are you mad?
This is balderdash.
I know.
Well, they don't quite come at it that way, but there are other ways.
Believe me, there are other ways.
So anyway.
sean david morton
So that's what I think if there is weather manipulation going on, number one, it is to try to exacerbate these gigantic patterns that we're seeing as the electromagnetic fields of the planet are literally getting out of whack.
And I mean, the one thing I just wanted to mention briefly was there's a book that I have called World in Peril.
And there was only a few hundred copies of this thing printed, but it's a white paper by the military where they outfitted one of the last of the old B-29 bombers.
I think the only one is, I think the Enola Gay that's sitting in the Smithsonian.
And this other one was called the Key Bird, and it was actually an Arctic and Antarctic explorer.
And what it was set up to do was measure the electromagnetic fields of the planet.
The conclusion the military came to was that due to a natural wobble of the planet, which has been exacerbated by atomic testing, that we've sort of shocked the planet slightly out of its orbit.
At the same time, the planet itself, because the moon is in a circular orbit and it's pulling away a few feet a year or so, because I think some people say it's getting closer and other people say it's moving away.
I think it's moving away about three or four feet a year.
It's actually, the actual rotation, pitch, and yaw of the planet is such that we would think that it would actually sort of roll like a top rather gradually, but it doesn't do that.
About every 12 or 13,000 years or so, it just kind of goes boink and tips over to one side.
art bell
Well, so that you might know they're really thinking about this stuff, Sean, NASA announced a plan they've been mulling over to move the Earth.
sean david morton
It was absurd.
There's another whole thing, too, about what they're actually calling God rockets, and that the God rockets would actually nail rockets down to the Earth, quite literally, and let these things go off in order to actually change the rotational pattern of the planet to try to sort of knock it back into kilter.
The bottom line of this whole thing being is that the military report concluded, and this was really frightening to look at it in these clinical terms, where they said that, and this was 1966, the study was actually conducted between, I think, 1966 and about 69, but their conclusion was, is that within,
that by the year between 2000 and once again, and the set of the military report, 2011 to 2013, that they were expecting massive disturbances in weather due to the, once again, electromagnetic fluxes of the poles, that electromagnetic north was going to begin to wander, which is exactly what it's doing.
It's actually moving south at about anywhere from 5 to 20 miles a year.
art bell
We've documented that.
Actually, it kind of moves around, and occasionally it takes really big jobs.
sean david morton
And the problem is that you used to have to reset a commercial compass in an airliner every, I don't know, five years, and now you have to do it every 30 days.
And the idea being that the bottom line of this report was massive, bizarre weather changes, huge winds coming around the turn of the century, they were saying, and that these huge winds would then, and this electromagnetic flux would then eventually result in an electromagnetic shifting of the poles sometime in, once again, 2012.
It's literally, and the polar wobble of miniature mounts begins to appear, and let me quote it, polar wobble of miniature mounts will begin to appear and the climates begin to shift.
Weather records will begin to appear on a daily basis with record cold waves, heat waves, droughts, and huge storms beginning to appear and create havoc upon Earth.
This is 1967.
art bell
These guys wrote this.
And this is what we're seeing right now already.
It's here.
sean david morton
Absolutely.
And leading up, and the idea becomes if 2012 is another 11-year solar cycle, once again leading to the magic date of December 21st of 2012, and we're actually looking at a humongous increase in the solar corona that directly aligns somehow with the center of the galaxy, that then somehow hits the reset button on, you know, that the entire planet goes tilt.
What exactly is going to happen to the human brain?
And, you know, does it just wipe us queen?
And do we all have sort of a blonde day?
It's going to be very interesting to watch.
art bell
A reset button.
All right.
God rockets.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast A. My guest is Sean David Morton.
Remember what you're hearing is prophecy.
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We'll be right back.
art bell
Once again, Sean David Morton.
Sean, I'm reminded frantically by a computer that somehow we didn't complete the NASDAQ prediction.
I thought we did.
Oh, okay.
So where is that going?
sean david morton
Once again, none of the markets are going to, I mean, the sky's not falling in regards to the markets.
What's going to happen with them is that, I think that you're going to, whereas a lot of the crash that you're going to see, or should I say the, I shouldn't say crash, bounce.
That's a much better word for it.
The bounce of the Dow Jones is going to come in October, I think.
art bell
Okay, forget it.
sean david morton
Another big bounce in the NASDAQ.
And from now with the NASDAQ at 1966, I think both of the markets are actually going to go up between now and October with another big crunch or a bounce coming with the NASDAQ in, once again, November, December, with a steady climb in the NASDAQ.
Again, I think that by this time next year, you'll see the NASDAQ in about the 3,500 range, but trading pretty comfortably between about 3,000, about 3,500 or so.
art bell
So a pretty good recovery, actually.
sean david morton
Well, yeah, because this is what people need to understand about this particular year, numerologically speaking, 2001 is a three-year.
Three years are always unstable.
People spend money on ridiculous things.
It's just very unstable.
Next year, 2002, is a four-year.
It's like the base of a pyramid.
Everything gets reestablished.
Everything gets relayed.
And of course, what's happened with the NASDAQ is the big companies are going to buy up the smaller companies.
And eventually, these mega companies are going to be running what's happening to the NASD.
Everything then, all of these markets, when I see the market eventually completely crashing, when it does really hit the wall, comes, once again, about late 2005 or so, when the Dow Jones is somewhere up around $16,000.
It's between $16,000 and $17,000.
I remember being on this show all the way back in 1994, 1993, 94, talking about how the stock market was going to go to 8,000.
And everybody thought I was crazy, that it was going to go to 8,000, and eventually go to 10, and go to 12, and it'll go to 17,000 by 2005, and that's when the big collapse is going to come.
art bell
Lots of money to be made between now and then, though.
Indeed, yes.
All right.
sean david morton
There's actually, can I read you one last paragraph out of this military report, which I thought you would find very, very interesting.
Once again, this comes from, this was actually published in 1968, and it talks about what would happen directly before a polar shift.
It says, prior to the event, changes begin to occur that signal the approach of a polar shift.
Animal migratory habits will shift because the magnetic fields within the Earth begin to shift.
A polar wobble of minute amounts begins to appear, and the climates begin to shift.
Weather records will begin to appear, and on a daily basis, with record cold waves, heat waves, droughts, and a huge storms beginning to appear and create havoc upon the Earth.
This will bring with it massive flooding in some sections across the United States and drought in other sections.
All weather patterns shift and begin to intensify in their magnitude.
Tornadoes will be severe and widespread, causing massive damage and loss of life.
Hurricanes will become stronger and stronger, bringing with it more damage to the affected areas.
Thunderstorms will increase in their size and magnitude, bringing with them localized flooding, windstorms, and severe hail damage.
Earthquake activity increases slowly as the shift gets closer.
Thus, we should see increasingly severe earthquake activity all over the world.
Along with earthquake activity comes volcanic activity because the two are directly connected.
And I just actually just pulled this out of my Bible here.
If people want to look at Isaiah 24, the entire chapter of Isaiah 24 talks about a polar shift where it says, Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty and maketh it waste and turneth it upside down and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
The earth is utterly broken down.
The earth is clean and dissolved.
The earth is moved exceedingly.
And then it says to wrap it up, the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard and shall be removed like a cottage and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it and it shall fall and not rise again.
art bell
Well, if we shall speak it of biblical things, then I'm not a prophet, but I look now at what's going on in the Middle East and I see war a coming.
sean david morton
Well, a big thing happened in this just yesterday.
One of the things that we've been tracking, and this goes all the way back to my predictions from the October Delphi Associates newsletter, my prediction was that Ariel Sharon would become the prime minister of Israel, which of course nobody thought that he would.
And my prediction was that you would have Sharon become prime minister, that this would galvanize the Islamic jihad, which are the various forces against Israel.
And one of the things that we were tracking in terms of a Nostradamus prophecy, and this goes out to my friend Robert Egan, who's kind of my Nostradamus expert.
Robert was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and we're trying to get as much information and as many things as he knows about Nostradamus and the various quatrains down because he's dropped about 150 pounds and he's just not doing well.
So I just want to send my love out to him and I hope he gets better.
Well, I don't know if he's going to get better, but I hope something can be done.
He called me today with an Nostradamus quatrain we've been tracking because yesterday, according to this quatrain, I'm not going to bore you with the specifics on it, but it had to do with the breaking of the Orient House, that my prediction was that you would see an apartheid state in Israel, that in essence you'll just have like a superhighway that'll Just go from Gaza through to the West Bank.
Sort of like in East Berlin.
It just goes through an area where you won't be able to get off of it.
And the big thing was that yesterday, Israeli police broke into, in Jerusalem, their headquarters, which was actually called Tenant House, which is actually a phrase that's actually used in the Quatrain.
But they broke the Tenant Accord yesterday by going into East Jerusalem into, I'm sorry, what's called the Orient House, basically broke up the Palestinian headquarters there.
art bell
That's right.
And nobody ever thought they'd go in there either.
sean david morton
In essence, they put an end to the tenant accord.
So this was the final straw.
This was the one toehole that the Palestinians had left to establishing some kind of presence in Jerusalem.
art bell
I know, but there are other bigger moves going on behind the scenes.
Iraqis are moving into Jordan.
Really weird stuff is going on.
Syria is making unusual noises.
Even Egypt is saying, look, if it begins, we'll be in it.
There are a lot of really unsettling things going on.
sean david morton
This goes all the way back to my predictions in 94 about the Islamic Jihad, and of course, the more famous Nastradamian predictions about a leader, an imam, a religious leader of some kind, the Persian prince, the man in the blue turban who comes up out of Iran.
And of course, Iran is the fundamentalist leader of pretty much everything that's going on.
And back in 94, when I did a progression to the future, one of the things that I saw was that this man, the Antichrist, would actually be called that he would be called the beautiful one, Jamal, actually, was what he was called, which is kind of a joke because he brings such horror upon the world.
But that he actually becomes a leader or the main spokesperson for the Islamic Jihad.
I don't think it's a leader that we've seen yet.
It's a religious cleric of some kind that I've seen presenting himself at the Kaaba stone in Mecca.
I still think we've got about a year or so to go.
I don't see the conflict really coming down.
Once again, everything's all boiling up to around 2005 to 2006.
Back in 1994, in this journey I took forward, this time transference, if you will, about 100 years from now, I looked back on the history.
And the history that I saw had, right around the year 2000, and between 2004 and 2005, a great plague, but also the destruction of Jerusalem by what appeared to be like a sneak nuclear bomb, like a briefcase bomb that snuck into the city.
And remember, I mean, just in modern history, Jerusalem has been leveled something like 37 times.
So it's not like it hasn't happened before.
But that's also, and then Michael Drozny's book came out, The Bible Code, in 97, I think, and then reaffirmed the prophecy that I had made back in 94 that something in the Bible Code said there were two nuclear possibilities of wiping out Jerusalem.
And the first one would be 1996, which he said was avoided, and the second one would be 2006.
And at the same time, I see around that time, between now and, once again, 2005, this wall we seem to hit, kind of a dissolution of the U.S. government where there's a massive move from Washington, D.C. to the secondary federal capital in Denver, Colorado.
And this has something to do with, once again, some kind of biological or nuclear attack that kills a lot of people in Washington, D.C. around this drop-dead date, which seems around 2005, 2006.
art bell
All right.
The headlines today are so full of cloning.
It's astounding to me.
I thought, I told a caller before you got on the air, I thought I would never see cloning in my lifetime.
I thought that would come after I was gone, but lo and behold, it's here now.
sean david morton
George Lucas movie, what Revenge of the Clones or something like that.
Revenge of the clones or whatever it is.
art bell
That's right.
So do you have anything to say about the cloning?
How will it progress?
I mean, there are horrible possibilities, monsters being born.
And you can't treat people like lab rats.
You can't just dispose of the mistakes, or at least I don't think you can.
Where's the world going with cloning?
sean david morton
You were talking about brainless clones.
I think, don't they all work for the government after they all get nice, comfortable positions in the Pentagon, I think.
art bell
Maybe the brainless clones will all begin as GS-11s.
sean david morton
Or we elect them president, as we all think of that.
The thing is, and this is where I think that the debate gets really off the track, is that there are ways, and there was a doctor who was pioneering this in Texas named Dr. George Merkel, who was actually just cloning organs themselves, that he was actually able to take pieces of hearts or livers or spleens and actually just clone the organ.
art bell
I've heard of that.
sean david morton
that instead of actually creating a whole human being that you would have, you know, I don't know, stuffed in, you know, in the garage for spare parts, I guess, you know, I just go, I gotta go take a heart out of my spare Sean, Well, once again, let me go back to 1994 when I went to like 100 years in the future or so.
The last great war that I've seen is actually the United States going toe-to-toe with China.
And it doesn't happen until around 2015.
It actually takes place between around 2015 and about 2017.
And there are clone soldiers.
And there are problems with them because they, after the war is actually over, they roam the countrysides and people have to go out and kill them because they're just developed as these sort of killing machines.
You know, the idea here being, and there's a whole other alternate idea to this, that in underground facilities like the Dulce Archileda Mesa in northern New Mexico, that ever since 1978 that they've been doing, I guess what you would call biological experiments, and this is another kind of interesting X-Piles explanation to the extraterrestrial phenomenon,
that the beings that are seen on UFOs with military personnel are simply very simplistic, I guess you could say, biological robots, that they grow them with sort of a brain, eyes, and the only thing that's really complicated about human beings is the reproductive system and the digestive system.
Well, if you can actually grow a being that doesn't really reproduce and absorbs and excretes nutrients primarily through the skin, like a plant, if you will, like osmosis, which seems to be what these big tanks, these bats of cattle blood mixed with a hydrogen peroxide solution, they dump these creatures in and they swim around in it and that's kind of lunch for them.
That they're very simplistic biological entities that are smart as maybe chimpanzees or dogs or what have you, that do all of the grunt work in these super secret facilities where you don't have to worry about families or people talking about what you're doing or insurance or whatever.
When you're done with them, you just toss them in the vat and make more.
This is a biological possibility, and it has been done all the way back when they started splicing rat genes with plants.
And they do it now with tobacco and tomatoes.
But this was all the way back in 1978.
And then they patented the process in, I think, 79, 80.
I mean, it's nightmarish.
But once again, going all the way back to the beginning of the show, these are the black magicians of Atlantis.
It is the whole Atlantean paradigm that is presenting itself again, where you quite conceivably had these black scientists who were messing with creation, if you will, literally messing with life itself.
art bell
That's right.
sean david morton
Bringing about the end of the world.
art bell
Wow.
Speaking of the end of the world.
sean david morton
Sorry, I didn't mean to catch you there.
art bell
No, that's quite right.
Speaking of the end of the world, a lot of people want you to comment on the Antichrist.
sean david morton
I've written a number of articles on this about who it might be.
Actually, I just described the character that I saw as the Nostradamian character.
art bell
Now, don't give me a name, but I mean, where are we?
Is the Antichrist alive in the world now?
sean david morton
I believe so.
I mean, it's somebody that we would have to see within the next, you know, I would think within the next few years.
But remember, this is kind of the weird part about it.
If you look at, for example, the book of Revelation, Revelation talks about an Antichrist that seems to rule that you've got an Antichrist who's a political leader, and then you've got a false religious leader that they call the false prophet, who is the one who breathes life into the beast, and the beast destroys, etc.
So there's two characters that are involved in the biblical version.
And there are some people who say that that was Nero, that that's all over, and it was Nero who went into the Holy of Holies and made the temple his headquarters.
He stamped the 666, which was Nero Rex Imperium, on the foreheads and hands of all the Jews.
So there is a body of evidence that would say that this has already happened.
If you look at the Nostradamian version, he looks at three great Antichrists.
The first one he names, specifically, as being Napoleon Bonaparte.
The second one he names, almost specifically, as being Adolf Hitler.
And the third one, he hems and haws about.
It's a Persian prince, a man in a blue turban.
The only thing he really points to is that he's a barbarous man who comes out of Iran and that he somehow leads a great Islamic confederation.
But if you look at the Great Pyramids, and the Great Pyramids has a brilliant, I guess what you would call a Christ angle that's at the beginning of the Grand Gallery that points to a central messianic figure beginning in approximately 2 BC and then ending or doesn't really say he dies.
It says that he ends his mission in 33 AD and that there's a second messianic figure that popularizes the message of the first one, which many believe to be Paul.
But there is an Antichrist angle in the Great Pyramid as well.
And this Antichrist angle relates directly to, and it's very specific, November of 1933 to April of 1944, and relates specifically to an anti-Messiah that would use all of the messianic symbols, the ancient symbols of the Vril and the lightning bolts and the invisible sun and the swastika, etc., which are all sort of Hopi symbols, the Iron Cross or the Celtic Cross, that he would misuse all these symbols and be an anti-Messiah, and that the Antichrist was Adolf Hitler.
And that what we're facing now, over about the next 20 years or so, in the Great Pyramid time coding, is that we're basically looking at the entire, it's no one person.
The planet just falls apart under the weight of its own stupidity, literally.
That 2005 humanity seems to fall in this hole.
That a mass of humanity gets around the hole and then gets washed into the pit in 2012, which is that trough that you see as you're going around the hole in the pit of the Great Pyramid of Giza, that something happens in 2012, river of fire, if you will, which could either be an electromagnetic pole shift or possibly a meteor strike of some kind.
art bell
All right.
Listen, we're so short on time.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
art bell
At the beginning of the program, you brought the man on who asked the question of Jesse Ventura.
sean david morton
Yes, Gabriel Aliman.
art bell
Yes, let me ask you the question.
Do you think there will be ET contact, and when do you think it might be?
Are we close?
sean david morton
Oh, gosh.
You know, after having predicted things like, you know, the alien interview and having predicted the Phoenix lights over, you know, the massive ships over Phoenix, I mean, I think it's happening, but I don't think it's happening on a grand scale.
They seem to choose people and individuals who are of a particular psychic and mental development.
They seem to choose people that don't have a lot of psychic chatter, if you will, in their heads because it makes them uncomfortable being empathic.
I mean, I literally think it's begun, and I think they're here among us, and I think that they're obviously engaged in breeding experiments with us.
It's very subtle.
I mean, there is one last prophecy of the Hopis, that there is a man and a woman, a sacred man and woman, who do appear all a day the earth stood still and give humanity one last warning that we must change our ways, that we must learn to love one another and love the earth and love ourselves, and that through the aspect of mind, that mind is the builder and that everything could change and that we have a glorious, magnificent future ahead of us if we would only reach out and take it.
art bell
Would not such a man and a woman appearing in the modern world today be regarded as just another new age spokesperson?
person.
sean david morton
I'm sure the media would That's right.
So, you know, it has to do with, I mean, you know.
art bell
And all religions, when they begin, are cults.
sean david morton
And of course.
And, you know, if Jesus appeared today, I mean, you know, who would be the first people to go looking for hammers and nails and drag them off and find a tree somewhere?
So it's, you know, I don't know, Art.
I just know that there is a consciousness that's coming.
I think people are ready for it.
There is a messianic figure that I think comes in about 2034 to 2040.
It's the whole point of the Great Pyramid.
And there are great men and great messiahs coming.
And the biggest thing is that all the Buddhas, everybody's here now.
This is the great judgment age.
This is the universe, the resurrection of the quick and the dead.
This is universal reincarnation.
art bell
Yeah, I've got a feeling that's exactly right.
sean david morton
Everybody's here now.
art bell
Very quickly, time has gone.
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sean david morton
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art bell
Got a link up there right now.
sean david morton
Thank you, sir.
art bell
Sean, as always, thank you until next time.
sean david morton
You're in rare form.
Thank you so much.
It's an honor and a pleasure, and keep going strong, pal.
art bell
Good night.
sean david morton
Bye-bye.
art bell
All right, there you have it, folks.
We will do it again with Sean as time permits.
And one thing we have late at night is lots of time.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
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