Sarah’s 1989 NDE after a 60-foot throw in Marin County revealed a terrifying, flame-covered entity and hellish realms—echoing Siberian drilling sounds—before she glimpsed paradise blocked by unseen barriers. Medical professionals dismissed her visions as trauma-induced hallucinations, yet she emerged fearless of death, later connecting with NDE survivor groups. Meanwhile, callers debate classified UFO encounters (like Deke Richards’ 1982 Folda Gap incident) and emerging diseases like Amoeba alimuthia, questioning whether humanity’s crises signal hidden truths or systemic failures. Bell’s show blends eerie accounts with conspiracy theories, leaving listeners to ponder the boundaries between reality and the unexplained. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest.
You do good evening, good morning, whatever the case may be, wherever you are.
Guess afternoon on Guam to the west, eastward then, the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole, and definitely worldwide.
On the internet, this is Coast AM, and I'm our belt Friday night, Saturday morning.
So if you want to do that by telephone, then you need to contact me the same way you did earlier today in the next hour or so, and I will get you on the air.
Now, do you remember the Washington Times story that we've been agog about over the last few days?
This is one in which Dick Cheney was asked a question on the Diane Rem show.
Well, guess what?
I've got the man who asked the question on the show.
And while the Washington Times got the important part right, they didn't get it quite right.
And there's more to the story.
And I've got the fellow who had Dick Cheney on the phone and actually asked the question.
so i think uh...
in a moment will bring him on and then let him tell you first hand what happened Get a new view of the world with Coast to Coast AM.
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When do you see this entire picture unfolding?
It's unfolding right in front of us.
The corporate truck runs our government.
And most importantly, they keep us on the two-party system.
As long as they can convince the American people that your choice is between evildoers, the Democrats or evildoers, the Republicans, they have absolute control of you.
The biggest threat would be a genuine third party.
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Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
You're quite a historian on this issue, I can see.
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Right, I'm fairly interested in the, you know, instead of going to people in the Air Force or something, to me it made sense to somebody go after the chief executive officer or the whole thing.
All right, so you called and you got through and you got the Vice President of the United States and you asked him what?
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Well, for the record, I'll give you the actual question that I asked him.
I said, since the statement made by George Bush last July, there's a vicious rumor circulating in the UFO community that you've been read into the UFO program.
So my question to you is this.
In any of your government jobs, have you ever been briefed on the subject of UFOs?
And if you have, when was it and what were you told?
And the Vice President said, he answered, well, if I had been briefed on it, I'm sure it was probably classified and I couldn't talk about it.
Well, that is, in fact, essentially what the Washington Times said, pretty much.
Right down the same alley, but there's more, isn't there?
Yeah.
The rest of the stories, Paul would say.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I was cut off as soon as the question, I guess they didn't want second to secondary questions, so I was cut off.
I actually didn't hear the answer.
No, they don't want anybody yelling, a follow-up, Mr. Vice President?
So Diana Rem asked him as soon as he answered that, she said, is there investigation going on within this administration, Mr. Vice President, as to UFOs?
And what Cheney answered to that was, I have not come across the subject since I've been back in government.
Oh, since like January the 20th.
And then he added, I've been in a lot of meetings, but I don't recall one on UFOs.
That's Americanese, political Americanese for I don't remember, which is what you're told to say, you know, in some situation you might be in where you would incriminate yourself horribly.
But it really wasn't true because he said, I haven't come across the subject since I've been back in government.
And the original question that I asked him was the statement made by George Bush, which referred to an incident last July with Charles Huffer, who had come across Bush and Cheney together at a campaign stop in Arkansas.
You would think, though, with the past record of Diane Rem's show, questions like these to officials, somebody would have briefed Mr. Cheney ahead of time saying, if you're going on the REM's show, you're going to get a UFO question, or you may well get a UFO question.
What I'm saying is that's too bad because now we would need Diane Rems' permission to play it.
In other words, that's her copyrighted material.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, listen, thank you so very much for coming up here and explaining this to us.
You as a dispassionate Canadian, a very calm Canadian, all Canadians are calm, it seems like, you take this to mean, I mean his answer, you take this to mean, don't you, that there is indeed a classified program on UFOs in the U.S. and that he has indeed been briefed and couldn't talk about it because it's classified, right?
And if you're listening to the radio, then absolutely just don't go away because it was two years ago.
I did a show with Dr. Tricia McGill and Dr. Jeff Long.
Actually, it was February 4th of 99.
So on this show, we had a young lady that they brought forth whose name was Sarah.
Is Sarah.
She's still with us.
And she proceeded to tell the single most incredible, dramatic, involved, frightening, hopeful story of near-death that you've ever heard in your whole life.
I mean, this is an incredible story.
Sarah was on her way back from church volunteer work.
I mean, we're talking quite a nice young lady on her way back from volunteer work at the church, and she was hit by a vehicle and thrown, God knows, I forget how many feet, and died.
She died, or I should say she had an NDE.
Maybe when you die, you never come back, but boy, oh boy, what you will hear in this account, if you just stick with it, every word of the way is the strongest, most incredible account of near-death that I've ever heard told anywhere, anytime, period.
So I think I'm going to replay that in the next hour.
A very bright flash in the sky captivated scores of people all across Western Australia last night, as the program went on, I guess, who witnessed what may have been dust shed by a comet thousands of years ago.
Perth Observatory astronomer Jamie Biggs said the event was seen as far north as Dangerang, I think it is.
I slaughtered that, I'm sure, 170 kilometers north of Perth and as far south as Albany, 410 kilometers south of Perth.
So from 170 north to 410 kilometers south, something really streaked across the sky.
Now, of course, how did they know it was dust from a comet?
How could they possibly know it was dust from a comet?
Sounds good, right?
Like a meteor.
But I mean, did they collect any?
I always question these things.
A three-year-old Rohnert Park girl died after being infected with a rare organism that destroyed her brain as she lay in a coma for two days.
This is from the San Francisco Chronicle.
Just how Aletha Lee Willis contacted or contracted the amoeba alimuthia, which is so unusual, scientists discovered it only 11 years ago, remains a total mystery.
It's like science fiction, said the girl's grandmother, 44-year-old Teresa Powers.
I've never seen anything like this in my life.
Well, it's not science fiction to the experts, however.
They say the disease caused by the amoeba quickly ravages the brain and is invariably fatal.
In fact, Aletha died April 11th, a little more than three weeks after she came down with flu-like symptoms.
Her death left her family struggling to comprehend why something so bizarre would strike their little girl.
How did she get it?
How can something that's supposed to be so rare, so rare, just rear its head up, asked the grandfather.
How rare is it since it has come out of the darkness and taken her life?
Scientists know very little about this organism, whatever it is.
They don't know where it's found, how many may be out there, or they don't know how it enters the body.
It's so rare, there have been no financial incentives to investigate it, according to Professor Tulane.
Weiser said experts believe the organism thrives in water and infiltrates the body through the eyes or through wounds.
It's just absolutely astounding.
It just goes and destroys your brain.
And this poor little girl died, and they don't have even a clue, even a clue what killed her or how it got in her.
Well, I guess they do know, of course, why she died, but my God.
Aletha was a bright, gap-toothed little girl with a radiant smile, her grandparents said.
She adored her cat.
Nice little girl, in other words.
She liked to put olives on her fingers and show them to everyone.
Fell ill March 20th.
Two days later, doctors at Roenert Park Medical Center diagnosed her condition as a flu, recommending giving her Tylenol and sending her home.
Aspirin, go home, right?
By March 24th, her fever soared to 103 degrees.
She was unable to eat.
Her grandparents, who are legal guardians, raced her to Santa Rosa Memorial Hospital.
Doctors kept her there overnight for observation.
Her condition took an alarming turn for the worse next day as grandfather held her while physicians prepared tests.
She had a seizure right in my arms, the granddad said.
They ordered an MRI and spinal tap right away, a little improvement on the 26th.
Then they thought she might have meningitis, but back come the seizures.
So her condition grew steadily worse as she lay in isolation in intensive care at children's.
When we came in, according to Dr. Michael Schauberg, she was critical.
Anyway, of course she didn't make it bottom line.
And it's just some horrible new little thing that we're hearing about.
Rare, they say.
Very rare.
But they would say that at the beginning.
That destroyed this little girl's brain.
So it is interesting, is it not, that we live in such a sort of a new time for diseases.
I mean, look at all this emerging stuff.
Mad cow disease that could eventually, I guess if it went crazy, make it so none of us could eat beef anymore.
If it were to go worldwide, that certainly would be the effect, right?
Oof and mouth, thousands, maybe a million animals being killed.
All kinds of new diseases and problems for humanity.
Anyway, we'll go to open lines here shortly.
We may even do a little truth or trash during the night.
Hey, the Russians say they're going to go to Mars by the year 2020.
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The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
She lets me come every time and make up mine.
She's no one's love to play with me.
She'll be so inviting.
I want her all for myself.
Oh, temptation eyes.
Looking through my mind, my mind.
Oh, temptation eyes.
You gotta love me.
You gotta love me tonight.
Love me, baby, yeah.
Love me, baby, yeah.
Love me, baby.
Love me, baby.
You're with me.
Cause you gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
Yes, you gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You and I don't pretend we make love.
I can't feel anymore that I'm singing.
Yeah.
I'm in you.
You're with me.
You're with me.
I'm in you.
You're with me.
You're with me.
I'm in you.
You're with me.
I'm in you.
You're with me.
I'm in you.
You're with me.
Cause you gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You gave me the love.
Love that I never had.
You are listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
I should stop saying that evening for some and early evening at that for others and afternoon for a few.
So, I don't know.
We cover a lot of territory.
Good day.
Maybe I should say good day.
Good day, like the Australians.
Russia says it's going to go to Mars.
Russia has overcome all major obstacles, to manned interplanetary flight, and should be ready to send humans to Mars in the second decade of this century, according to the head of a once-secret space science institute.
This is in the London Times, by the way.
Just so you know.
15 years of trial and error aboard the Mir space station have given Russia unmatched experience in choosing training, feeding, supporting crews of space flights lasting a year or more, according to Anatoly Grigerov.
It also has yielded vital information on keeping crew members sane 280 million miles away.
Even American experts believe that the Russians have a lead in dealing with extended periods of weightlessness and the psychological problems of orbiting rather than flying away from Earth.
Our engineers believe we can do this by 2020.
And from a medical point of view, there are no big hurdles left to hinder such a mission.
Isn't this amazing?
The professor said that he space science world earlier this month with a prediction that Russia would dispatch a crew to Mars as early as 2016.
The forecast raised eyebrows not only because Mir and with it the core of Moscow's manned space exploration program had plunged into the South Pacific a few days earlier, but also because with a projected GDP for 2001 of $331 billion, that's gross domestic product, right?
That's $54 billion less than the Netherlands.
Russia is ill-equipped to finance an expedition that NASA estimates could cost $400 billion.
$400 billion.
And in a whole year, Russia only has $331 billion domestic product.
So how could they possibly do it?
And yet they're saying that they're going to do it, that he can do it.
That Russia can do it and apparently wants to do it, and they're talking about Mir 2 as well.
Isn't this a mystery?
Mir 2?
Remember we caught that that night?
Remember that?
When I caught what the cosmonaut said?
Mir 2?
And I said, What?
Well, sure enough, Mir 2 they're talking about.
And they're talking about, I guess, maybe they'd have to have Mir 2 if they were going to Mars.
So maybe they're really serious about going to Mars.
I hope we consider it a race and get off our bus.
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I hope we consider it a race and get off our bus.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
If there's any way you can catch it by computer after it's run live as it runs tomorrow night, we're doing the first ever radio program done by myself, anyway, with the late Father Malachi Martin on the subject of exorcism.
I'm booking a show later in, well, actually, I think in May.
no yes in may on exorcism was somebody else however But I think you'll find that tomorrow night's show will probably kind of scare you to death.
Father Malachi Martin was the exorcist.
And a remarkable man.
I think most of you know about him.
Those that don't are going to have an opportunity to find out tomorrow night.
Saturday night, Sunday morning.
The original, the first Father Malachi Martin program that we did on exorcisms.
Yes, Father Malachi Martin, actually, if anyone out there is truly listening to your show, and this is one show that you don't want to miss, because that man really, he gave me hope that the fact that maybe that truly religion does not have a truly closed eye to what's going on in the world.
And remember that there's always been a little quote of mine that I've always loved is they've always called a tornado the finger of God.
And it was one of those days, sir, it was like 1989.
It was right before the Berlin Wall coming down.
And the crux of my conversation here tonight, sir, is it's amazing how certain things can be a trigger effect.
In fact, I can remember listening to your show in Alaska in 1995, listening to you talk about the quickening and how things truly have come to fruition as far as what you've talked about.
But my point of this call is since then, 1989, and it's ironic, parts of your radio show have inspired me to do this too, is I've been capturing different live broadcasts, different snippets of videos since then.
And it's amazing, sir, as we've talked about this before.
We're such a society of where we get so much news so fast, and it seems like as we take each story, we tend to take it, accept it, and then move on.
And it seems like each day we seem to replace the last day's horror, and we don't seem to really stand and stop and really ponder what's going on.
And it's really until you start putting all these pieces of the puzzle together and you start seeing a consistent timeline that you truly see that what has happened in our past.
Somebody suggested that we do an entire show, and I put it aside and held it.
Do an entire show just on, hey, what the hell's going on?
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Oh, truly, sir.
I mean, every day, if you put the pieces of the puzzle together, in fact, if you go back, even right now we're going to the Bush part two, even if you go back to late 1980s and early 1990s, what happened then has set the course for what's happening now.
And it's amazing how we tend to always live in the moment for today and just maybe possibly a little bit in the future.
But if we don't stop and reflect on our past, we truly don't learn anything and we can't be right for our present or even our future.
And I just wanted my main point of the call was we all need to stop and put the pieces together, sir, because otherwise we won't get the clarity we all need in this world.
I did that after I got out of the Air Force for a long time.
I couldn't stop myself.
I finally stopped myself.
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It's funny you say that because I've done quite a few talk shows, and it's interesting the reaction I get.
Some people don't like it because it makes them feel old.
Some people like it because they like the fact that it shows respect, but it's what my parents taught me, in fact, and it's just something I've always been instilled with.
Today I talked to one of my, another talk show hosts that I call often, and he said to me, first thing he says to me is, oh, you must be very happy now at nighttime.
Now, think about how that sounded.
To all the viewers who are listening.
What did he mean?
Now, I knew he meant that Art Bell was on.
He knew that I knew that, but not many other people know that.
And we know that if we have them in space, then we would have an advantage.
We would have no launch, no boost phase, no anything.
We would simply, boom, on your head, there's a nuke, right?
It would just happen.
There'd be no defense, no even dreams of SDI or anything else.
So now you know there's a treaty, right?
But you've got to ask yourself, do you think they're observing that treaty?
And then after you ask yourself that, ask yourself then, do you really think we're observing that treaty?
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No, of course not.
I just worry if those things get off course by a meteor or something else or something goes wrong and they happen to come our way when we don't want them to.
Whether they be ours, or would be friendly fire folks, okay, or whether they be theirs.
Well, I want to tie them all in because just real quick, the trip to Mars from Russia, and I think that the Chinese are also planning on going to Mars.
There's the rich guy going to the space station and that video of that new Russian jet on your website.
I don't know if you've seen that video, but nobody would ever have imagined that a jet could do such things.
Now, listen to me.
A very serious thing is coming up here in about eight minutes, actually after the news at the top of the hour.
A really serious thing.
If ever I wanted you to just stop what you were doing and devote the appropriate amount of time to listen to what's coming up, it's tonight.
Sarah's MDE is unlike anything you've ever heard in your life.
I sat here at first thinking, ah, just a story.
And I've heard many stories over the years, as you know, on this program.
And I think, yeah, just a story.
But as it unwound, and as you learned about this young lady, and as you heard the detail she provided, which was astounding, of what happened to her, your mouth, your jaw will fall open.
So all I can say is call up your friends.
Tell them, tune in the Art Bell Show in this coming hour.
He was also, and probably still is, involved in UFO research and was one of the publishers of a monogram on MJ-12 and government Involvement with UFOs, and this dates back from I wouldn't be surprised at any of that.
He sounded like an aficionado, no question about it.
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Yeah, he was one of the guys that got in contact with a professor from then Penn State University who knew people that were involved with crash recovery UFO research.
And they called him and wrote to him and got some very enigmatic conversations.
Obviously, the guy did not want to speak about it.
But the whole episode was extremely interesting, and I think that that is still available through MUFAN.
Anyway, I called them up because I've been kind of bogged down, and I've been kind of feeling some things for years that I didn't want to mention to people because it seemed kind of weird.
And, you know, every few years in broadcasting, something so profound comes along and it just catches you by surprise, and so you don't get a chance to promote it.
Something like that happened to me.
Tonight, I've got a chance to promote it.
We're going to do it.
Sarah's MDE.
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Sarah's MDE.
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Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Well, the first thing I would do if I had that kind of consciousness was I guess I would, even in the black, to retain my sanity, I would try and touch myself and feel my hands and my arms and my body to see if I really was physical.
At one point, off in what seemed to be the distance, Because it was farther away from me, I started hearing a hum.
And then I saw a little pinprick of light.
And the sound began to get louder, and it got closer to me.
And as the whatever it was drew closer, I noticed that it was a creature and that the creature was surrounded by flames in all the various colors of flames, reds and yellows.
And it was, I don't know, big.
It seemed like it was eight feet tall to me, and it was huge.
And it had huge teeth and huge eyes, and there was a humming all around it, and it was making, you know, it was growling and gnashing its teeth, and it was drooling.
And from what I remember, the body of the creature itself was black.
And it just was coming toward me at an incredible rate.
Well, you know, when this happened, which was now 10 years ago, it took me that long, as Jeff was saying for him, it took me about 10 years before I was really able to talk about this to anybody else.
Sure.
I had really led a very ordinary life.
I hadn't really lived very long and done very much.
You know what I mean?
In terms of time to really create too much havoc.
I felt that I really had led a rather ordinary life in most aspects up until that point.
That was another thing that seemed and continues to seem fantastic to me.
And I was on my bicycle, and I wasn't in a car, and I was very happy about that because it was a lovely country road that I was riding on, and it was a beautiful evening.
You know, it really caught me by surprise and turned me upside down, literally, and everything after that too.
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Also, Art, I might mention that Sarah is carrying a lot of the physical scars of that experience too.
Sarah, isn't it your right arm that's pretty much paralyzed?
Did parts of your, I know we're jumping ahead here, but did parts of your previous life, the reading you did, the things you enjoyed, did they slowly begin to return to you?
Actually, what I actually had to do as part of my remembering who I was was I went back and visited my childhood home and tried to find as many people as I knew that I'd grown up with so they could tell me about myself.
And so I could sort of fit it as, oh, well, I guess this happened to me because you're telling me that it did, even though I don't really have a conscious memory of it.
Well, I spoke about it when I first came out and back to my body.
I actually wasn't able to speak because I had a respirator in my face.
But I started writing about it.
And probably all the people in the hospital that I spoke to about it told me that I was just having intense hallucinations because of the fact that I was so incredibly injured.
and then i told my immediate circle of friends at the time but it was such a fantastic thing that i could really feel them uh...
drawing away from me because of it We'll come right back to you and to Dr. Jeff Long and Tricia McGill as well.
I'm Art Bell.
And as the old saying goes, you ain't heard nothing yet.
You've just got the groundwork.
Sounds like a pretty bright, articulate girl, doesn't she?
Well, she certainly was.
I would classify what she had as a negative NDE.
And as I said, you ain't heard nothing yet.
Imagine this, though.
Somebody only mildly religious, yet coming home from church volunteer work, thrown 60 feet, flatlining five times, not once, but five times.
And when you hear what she has gone through, what she actually went through, I mean, it was bad enough.
The monster, the flames, and all the rest of it.
Bad enough.
But that was only the beginning of the terror that lay ahead for Sarah.
And I don't know how the religious community is going to accept hearing this, because they always believed, of course, that there's heaven, there's perhaps purgatory, depending on how you believe, and there's hell, and not a lot in between.
Well, for Sarah, there was a whole lot in between.
In a moment, when we come back, we'll do part two.
And amazing as all of this so far has been, it's nothing compared to what's coming up.
This just absolutely was the most profound case of NDE that I've ever heard.
So stay where you are.
We'll be right back with more.
It's a Friday night, Saturday morning.
Don't forget tomorrow morning, if you get it, the first program ever done by me, anyway, with Father Balachai Martin.
It was all about exorcism.
And he, of course, was the exorcist.
We'll be back.
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All right, trust me when I tell you, stick with this story.
More of Sarah coming up in a moment.
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More of Sarah coming up in a moment.
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When do you see this entire picture unfolding?
It's unfolding right in front of us.
The corporate struct runs our government.
And most importantly, they keep us on the two-party system.
As long as they can convince the American people that your choice is between evildoers, the Democrats or evildoers, the Republicans, they have absolute control of you.
The biggest threat would be a genuine third party.
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
Well, I have, in that arm, I have a condition that's called reflex sympathetic dystrophy, which means I'm in pain all the time.
So that has really changed my life in a great deal of ways also, because when you experience pain, I think when you're that young, and I didn't really have any, you know, precedent in my life for acute injury or acute pain.
So it really served to kind of change my perspective.
Back to that most awful moment when out of the darkness, a little pinprick of light, and then this horrid being with flames around it, a creature, I guess like a monster movie coming at you.
It came toward me and it was, you know, there was nowhere to go in this black.
I didn't think there was to move, you know, I didn't think to run because where was I going to go?
And so what I did was, this is where I really say that I had an awareness of my body because I remember standing my ground, just sort of locking my knees and gritting my teeth and bawling up my hands and going, okay, whatever's going to happen, it's going to happen.
And I closed my eyes as this creature, you know, I could feel its hot breath on me at that point, right?
And what it did was actually started to pass through my body.
And I had an awareness of it passing actually very slowly through my body.
And as it was passing through my body, it was laughing and really gleefully laughing as it passed through me.
And then it exited behind me with a pop.
And then I started moving forward in the dark.
And as I was rushing forward in the dark, there were there ended up being two more of these creatures that came at me.
And it was probably, it's hard to describe how large it was because I didn't have any idea of perspective at that point.
But what I can tell you is that it went up and then branched to the right and went around at such a turn that I actually couldn't see where the right branch of the tunnel was going.
And on the sides of the tunnel were kind of doorways in the clouds.
And there were several different ones of them.
There wasn't just one or two.
They went up kind of at irregularly spaced intervals up the tunnels on both sides.
So at this point, I looked down at myself, and I no longer had my body.
My body had become a little blue star, and I was just a little star of light, a little blue star.
And then as I noticed myself as a blue star, which seemed a perfectly normal thing for me to be in this context, I looked back up the tunnel and I noticed that there were other little lights kind of moving around the tunnel up ahead of me.
And it was far.
It was a very vast distance.
It wasn't as if I could just walk from one end of the tunnel very quickly if I had feet.
So, anyway, the first doorway that I looked into looked like hell.
There were people shrieking and screaming, and there were naked human beings strewn about this horrid landscape with pools of bubbling excrement, and there's boulders, and animals were torturing people,
and people were torturing each other, and there were creatures with pitchforks and erupting flame geysers, and it was kind of the artist's classic depiction of hell.
Well, not only that, it got worse in that as I got close to this doorway, I was in kind of the center of the hall and I looked in and saw this scene, and I was like, whoa.
And then I went toward this door, I kind of floated toward it, and there was a sucking sensation near this door, kind of like a whirlpool.
And I got actually sucked into the hell.
And I was kind of catapulted above it, and I was floating above this scene, which is one reason why I can describe it in such great detail, is because I was in there for a while, listening to it, looking at it, just, again, horrified and awed by what I was witnessing because the scenes of torment were so incredibly imaginative and different.
There was every imaginable thing going on in there.
You know, it was just that you can think of in terms of torture and human misery.
At this point, Sarah, at any point during all of this, didn't you begin to intellectualize your situation and ask yourself, where am I and what's happened to me?
Or was it so natural that you just never went through that process?
I think my feeling about this is, because of what happened next, which was actually I left without any difficulty.
And as I was passing through the door, my thought at that point was that the people that were in this scene could leave it at any time.
they just weren't aware that they could because they were so caught up in their own idea needed to suffer Yeah, perhaps they were keeping themselves there.
It was interesting, but not exactly the same as my experience, only because he never had the idea of the tunnel, and the tunnel was so primary for mine.
well and all of this is confusing to the layman because when you start talking about clouds and light and being a blue light that begins to sound kind of spiritual on the good side I think actually it's more what form humans may take when they lose their body or what form we perceive this particular experience in.
don't know Yes, and that's what I think too.
I think so, definitely, from the experience that I had.
That people had sentenced themselves.
unidentified
That's what I've gotten from all of my research also, Art.
I felt really lucky, too, because I was afraid that I wasn't going to be able to get out because that sucking sensation had been so strong coming in.
And, you know, even as I was leaving, I could sort of feel the energy kind of pouring back in, sort of if anything else unwary kind of came along, it was also going to get sucked in.
So I decided I was going to keep going up the tunnel.
And so the next world that I looked into, which was, I don't remember if it was exactly the one right next to the hell, but the next door that I looked in that I have a conscious memory of, was also a kind of hell.
It was kind of a completely yellow landscape that was flat.
And there were people, and they were just walking.
And they had their heads down, and they were totally depressed and totally self-absorbed in this utter miserable state of mind.
And they walked past each other, and they walked next to each other, and they were totally oblivious that anybody else was there, and that was all that was happening, except there was a sun in the sky that would cast incredibly long shadows of these people across the landscape.
And again, there was this sense here, again, of another kind of misery.
I'm Art Bell, and I don't think I've ever heard as graphic a description of a trip to a place of this kind ever.
This is somebody who flatlined five times, was thrown 60 feet by an automobile.
So there is part two.
Now, as the old saying again goes, you ain't heard nothing yet.
I mean, this story just kept going and going and going.
And obviously, this was written actually for her as she related it.
A number of people have asked, well, how was it written?
Well, it was written for her and or written by her when she was able to finally write.
And so all of this is a very fresh recollection that you're hearing.
Why would a church volunteer, a young lady without too many marks on the negative side, face something like she is obviously facing?
And as I said, you just haven't heard it all yet by a long shot.
I don't know, but it profoundly affected me because as I listened to her, and I like to think of myself as a pretty good judge of voices and people, it was obvious to me that she was absolutely telling the truth as she precisely recalled it.
Don't you have that impression?
Not just telling a story to be on the radio at all, nothing like it.
In fact, we had to drag her to the radio to get her to do this.
But once she got into it, it should be obvious to anybody listening that this was an actual, true experience that this young lady had.
And in the springtime of the year, when the trees are mounted leaves, When the ash look at their birds and you, And dressed in ribbons fear, When hours come the breathless moon in the movie of the night,
you're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
Well, it really, absolutely, utterly changed my life forever, and it has been the pivotal event in my existence ever since then.
And one of the reasons why I want to communicate it is so that I can move forward with this and join with other people in sort of celebrating this event so that it no longer is something that is, you know, just my own.
And, you know, it's just very...
And especially with something like this where you don't have any precedent in your existence for such a thing, how do you fit that back into an ordinary reality when you return to it?
No, I just felt a great deal of compassion for these people again because it seemed again like they were choosing this state.
Like they didn't have any idea that this was not what they had to be at all.
But unfortunately, they didn't have any idea of that.
All they knew is that this is what it was.
And just to see all these different human beings just passing each other by like ships in the night and having no idea that anybody else was there was just so isolating and lonely.
Other than those creatures which more than noticed you came after you, did anybody in any one of these rooms, were they aware you were there, do you think?
Well, then I decided to keep continuing up the tunnel and the next world that made any sort of impression on me was kind of a very different one in the aspect of it was the most beautiful thing that I'd ever seen.
And in that way the Robin Williams film touched me very deeply because the kind of color that he had there and the beautiful waterfalls and bridges and fountains and it was sparkling and iridescent and welcoming and I could hear the sounds of birds and all this other thing going on in there and it was like, oh boy, well I definitely want to go in there.
Everything was lit from within and sparkling and living and gorgeous.
And it was very interesting because as I went toward this world, of course I wanted to go in there.
I was like, oh yeah.
As I started to pass through the doorway, it was as if my little star nose got stuck against a piece of plastic wrap and I couldn't go any further in to this world.
And a voice, kind of almost as if I touched a doorbell, a voice said, you do not have the information to enter this world.
And I was terribly disappointed, but I thought, okay, well, what can I do?
You know, I can't go any further.
In fact, I remember I kind of tried to push through this transparent covering over this world, but it didn't work.
So at that point, I was kind of near the, very much near the end of the tunnel in terms of where it branched to the right.
Okay.
And so I, in my little star self, I turned around, and there, in this right branching, was a big yellow and white light that was very bright and intense and beautiful and wonderful.
So I decided, okay, well, may as well go into the light.
So I went into the light, and I'm in the light, and I feel this incredible feeling of joy and happiness and bliss.
And I noticed that that's the only thing that I can feel.
There's nothing else going on there but joy and happiness and bliss and celestial, you know, harmony, and it was overwhelming.
And I said to the light, I said, I'm here.
And the light said in this kind of big voice, it said, great.
I became, I myself became nothing but eternal joy and bliss and happiness.
And I kind of floated in this state for quite some time.
And in this state, I lost my fear of death.
And I learned a lot of things that are all kind of personal truths for me about myself in this state of joy and bliss.
and it lasted for and unknown period of time and then I've experienced, Sarah, something like that in not an NDE, but an out-of-body experience I had just instantaneously.
So, and then, you know, and I remember thinking, well, okay, well, all right, well, I'm leaving now.
And I kind of went rather quickly back down the tunnel and I paused.
This is kind of, now we're kind of near the end of this here.
This is my last little experience.
But there was a doorway near the end of the tunnel that was actually near the entrance where I Came in, and this doorway looked out onto space.
And there were galaxies and stars and planets, and it was utterly silent and utterly serene.
And seemed, you know, if you could go out and float on that forever and be kind of numbly happy pretty much eternally.
And there's also a sense of adventure, too, though.
Like, if you went out there, you'd become like a voyager in the galaxy.
And I kind of hovered on this doorway.
And another little being came up and started talking to me about what my options were at this point.
And through the opening of the doorway, I could hear voices that were saying, come back, Sarah.
You know, what about Zane, which is my son's name?
And I got very annoyed with them because I thought, why are they bothering me about my son?
Of course, I'm aware that I'm going to be returning to my son and my body.
But I could hear them kind of clamoring through the doorway.
And so I spoke with this little other being at this doorway, and we were talking, and suddenly it was kind of like the doorbell with the other world, where a voice said, if you pass through this door, you can't come back.
And I thought, okay, well, I really don't want to go out there right now.
And so I plopped myself back through the door where I came, and suddenly I was back in my body, and I was in a really brightly lit hospital bed, and there were all these tubes sticking into me, and I had a respirator in my face, and my body was humming with power.
It was just full of electricity, but I couldn't move it at all, because at that point I was pretty much completely paralyzed.
And yet also, you know, I was full of joy.
I had no fear of death.
I had all this wonderful truth about myself, and I couldn't move, and I couldn't communicate it to anyone at all.
I did, and the health practitioners who were wonderful in terms of saving my life were very, they were upset by what I was saying.
They didn't really, they told me basically that the experience that I had was a result of the hallucinations from the fact that I'd been so badly hurt and that none of what I had experienced was real.
And I think that they were doing the best that they could in terms of the context of what they knew.
You know, this is a fantastic occurrence.
They had a job to do, which was to keep me alive, and that's more what they were concentrating on other than trying to, you know, fit what happened to me into the context of something that they knew.
Since it was something outside what they knew, I don't really think they knew what to do with it.
in terms of time or even even synchronicity in other words you can't put together in your mind Sure.
It would be wonderful to say that happened, but I can't honestly say that.
All I can honestly say is that I know they lost me, and I know that this experience was obviously extended over a long period of time because three days had passed before I returned to my body.
And by then my parents were there, and I don't remember actually if I communicated much to them at all about it.
I know I told my close circle of friends, but again, I met with a great deal of kind of skepticism.
And again, everyone was kind of humoring me because I was so injured.
So I really shut up about it.
And I shut up about it really until I came here to Las Vegas and found the little advertisement that Trish had put in one of the papers saying that she had a support group that she was creating for people with near-death experience.
And I thought, okay, I'm going to go and I'm going to talk to other people who've had this experience, and then I'm not going to feel so alone and frightened and strange.
I haven't met anybody who's had the same experience that I've had, but I've met other people who have had the same experience in terms of their lives have been transformed in the same way that mine was by the experience that they had.
The only reason why it never happened was because I was afraid that I would go and present myself to medical practitioners and they would turn me away as a lunatic.
So remarkable that I really thought that all of you should hear it either again or, I know, in many, many cases, for the first time.
We're going in open lines, and you're more than welcome to comment on what you just heard, how you interpret what you just heard, anything you like.
In the meantime, I think we're going to start down a slightly different road.
I just got this, and I'm going to read it to you as is.
Art, I'm in the health insurance business in a central California town of Kern County.
One of my 69-year-old clients died.
Maybe somebody who has more medical knowledge than I can figure out the real cause of death, what it was.
Here were the symptoms.
Sore elbow.
Then it began swelling.
No open wound.
He would fall from time to time for no apparent reason.
First diagnosed as bursitis.
Then an orthopedic doctor said he had a staph infection in the elbow, drained some fluid from the elbow, then hospitalized him as having a staph infection and quarantined him.
He was put on high doses of antibiotic intravenous drip.
His condition worsened.
His eyesight and ability to talk then went.
They said it attacked his brain.
Then pneumonia set in.
He then went into a coma.
He was dead within one and one-half weeks.
Do these sound like the symptoms of Mad Cow to you?
From complaint to dead in one and a half weeks with those symptoms.
You tell me, I'm certainly not a doctor, but I thought when I read this that I should read it to you, and I don't know why.
One of the questions that somebody wants me to ask, and I think I rather will tonight, is all of this that's happening to us right now, the environment, the diseases that are emerging and spreading like wildfire, all of this, just a simple question, why is all of this craziness happening?
Again, why is all of this craziness happening?
Do you have any answer for that?
From the kids who are killing kids?
You name it.
I can't figure it out.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
In the day, nothing matters.
It's the night.
Don't matter.
In the night, don't come home to the wall.
Something like it.
Where and why, as you're walking down the street I'm not so long Doing alright, a little different
Driving on a Saturday night Come walk me Gonna die on a day's way Jenny will sleep She always smile for the people she needs On trouble who's driving
She's got another way of making her life Yeah You deserve the move.
I don't wanna get to you.
What can I do?
What can I do?
Bring your networks presents Arch Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
Now, we're going to be either completely in open lines for the balance of the show, or if I get in the mood, we're going to play a little truth or trash.
I know a lot of you have never, you have no idea what truth or trash is.
It's when I find somebody who has a totally, totally fantastic story and who's willing to tell it.
You can lie your tail end off if you want to.
I don't care how fantastic the story is.
Although I don't want paranormal stories.
I don't want ghost stories.
Well, for sure, I don't want ghost stories because you can't judge those very well, you know.
But what I want is fantastic stories in any category, really.
And then five, after you've told your story, I put you on hold and five people get to vote on what they think of your story.
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
Truth or trash, in other words.
So maybe we'll do a little bit of that.
I had that on the headline for tonight, but I really, really wanted to replay that incredible story.
And that'll be with you.
If you listened to the whole thing tonight, it's going to be with you for a while.
On the international line, you are on the air, top of the morning.
Because it confirms so much of what I know to be true, and that is that we are frequency or vibrational beings, and we set our own reality about what we believe.
And she said so much of this that things go by what we believe.
If there's a God, if there is a greater power, and I'm sure there is, that had already been predetermined.
So for some reason, she was allowed to look at things that others have not seen.
unidentified
Oh, I'd agree with that.
I'd agree with that 100%.
But another thing I heard, coming from her Christian background and their beliefs in this eternal hell, I look at it as a way to give Christians or people that are not Christians who just can't measure up, so to speak, a way to see that they're not going to be tormented forever.
What's going on right now is we are living in an electromagnetic universe.
We are electromagnetic beings.
We said vibrational frequencies.
And right now our sun is going through a radiation belt of some type, an energy thing, because we're coming to the beginning of a cycle where our universe, our galaxy travels around the universe, and it's almost at the start point.
It's an exciting time.
But the thing is, I study ancient things, you know, such as the Greeks, the Egyptians.
And what it is, is we no longer have connection with the electronics lining up the pyramids and the harmonic frequencies.
And in this shift that's going to happen, a lot of destruction is going to happen.
But thanks to God to people like you are and others who are getting information out.
People are starting to understand and see that there's a way of being safe.
And that is through letting their feelings guide them.
You're where this whole mad cow scare is probably right now the scariest.
How is it affecting people over there?
unidentified
Well, if you go into, we have Walmarts over here.
If you go into Walmarts and other stores, there's vegetarian products there now.
Our health food stores are steaming with people.
They're not going, buying into meat as they did before.
Well, I'm not really worried about mad cow disease at all for me because I am a vegetarian.
Oh, well, one of the ancient things that I read about, and this is coming from a philosopher, he said, as long as we cause pain and murder in the world, we will never know peace and joy.
And I think it's a way of the animals actually revolting against us and saying, okay, enough's enough.
take care of my friend all the way from germany as long as we As long as we continue to project negativism in the form of emotions and violence, and, oh, there's a lot of that going on around the World right now, isn't there?
Look at what's going on in the Middle East.
Look at what's going on right here on Main Street.
As long as we continue to project that, we will push ahead the events that are apparently inevitable.
Let's see if it might be possible for you to, say, go to a photographic shop where they could reduce them, keep them in scale, and still have plenty of high resolution.
And then they could be sent to me either in the reduced form, the copies, which would be ideal, really, or scanned and sent to me by computer, and we could get them on the website because I would sure love to see them.
During the news, at the top of the hour, I'm going to be scouring my lines, and I have many phone lines here, for one of you that has a really good story.
Now, remember, your story need not be the truth.
It can be a complete and total fabrication.
I don't care.
Or it can be the stranger-than-truth story.
Stranger-than-fiction story, rather.
You know, so incredible that you're probably going to trip up the people saying it's truth or trash.
This is how we play this game.
unidentified
But above all, it's got to be a really good story.
Well, anyhow, I stuck the screwdriver up there, and the first thing that happened was a big old bolt of electricity shot through that screwdriver and down my arm, my left arm, actually.
So I didn't think much of it, and I put my bag down from my right hand, used my right hand, and of course everything worked out all fine.
Then that same day, I had a radio, and it was not plugged in, there's no batteries in it, and I happened to lift it up with my left hand, and the radio went on.
And I thought it was sort of odd.
I thought there's batteries in there, but it felt too light because it takes four D batteries in there, so usually you can tell the difference in light.
Put it down, the radio goes off.
Lift it back up, radio goes on.
And I thought it was real odd.
Anyhow, I once showed, you know, my brothers and sisters, you know, what was happening.
In other words, normal terrestrial design aircraft.
Yes, sir.
To be in the kind of position that you are in, you certainly would have to have a background, I would think, as a test pilot or some sort of background like that.
Is there anything else you want to say about all of this before you are adjudged by our fellow listeners here?
unidentified
Well, I would say that in a few days, a lot of things are going to be made clear to the public through the fact that, say, several inducements have been put into several craft that are also flying.
You mean to say that you have, in effect, or somebody has, in effect, sabotaged some of these extraterrestrial craft that the government is testing?
Is that what I just heard?
unidentified
Not to test vehicles.
what do you mean not the test vehicles when the one that When the one that has the anomalies in it makes its landing, all that's inside will become clear to the American and world public.
Here's the young lady who said she had a story that was even better than that one.
That one was pretty good.
Now, he did either hang up at the end in humiliation, having received four trash votes, or there was the sound of strangulation just before I went to the line and you just heard it, you know, as they killed him.
It's hard to say which.
Personally, I think he hung up.
All right.
Where are you and who are you?
unidentified
This is Gabriel from Fowler, Ohio.
Okay.
And we had a neighbor survive having his head cut off by a chainsaw.
Well, no, what happened is later on, like two years later, he shot his wife who ran across the street and hid into a neighbor's closet waiting for authorities to come and die bleeding to death.
And then he turned around and turned the gun on himself.
All right, you are going to be the deciding vote for this very earnest young lady who told us this story about the man who got decapitated but hung in there to kill.
unidentified
Well, she sounds like a nice girl, but I hate to say it, but it sounds like trash.
My story isn't as wild as having a head cut off, but when I first came here to Taiwan, I did not speak any Chinese.
And, you know, I spoke English and got along very well.
But I started to study Chinese, and I think that anybody who has probably studied a language knows if you study a language for a long time, you start to dream about it at night.
So in other words, you could never, because you were dreaming in Chinese, you could never quite complete a dream, and that would make you wake up.
unidentified
Yeah, every time I was trying to interact with someone, I would get to a point where communication would start to break down, and I could feel frustrated.
You know what I mean?
I mean, of course I was asleep, but I felt that frustration, and that would wake me up.
Until there was one night when I was having a dream, and I remember the dream very clearly.
I was asking for directions.
I don't remember where it was I wanted to go, but I was asking someone for directions and was unable to communicate and was getting frustrated.
Just before I was about to wake up or wake myself up, the man in the dream said, stop.
Don't do that.
That's your problem.
And he said, follow me.
And so, okay, now this gets kind of disappointing because he doesn't take me to any place like real interesting or anything.
Matter of fact, I don't even remember where we went.
We just walked around, walked around, walked around.
He said to me, I don't know why you're lost.
You've been here before.
And led me around and led me around.
I woke up the next morning and I could speak Chinese fluently.
You're not going to believe this, but remember at the beginning of the program, those that heard the very, of you that heard the very beginning, and I said, Deke Richards in the state of Maine, if you're out there, communicate with me the same way you did the first time, which I'll tell you now was by facts.
He sent me a three-page fact of an incredible story, and somehow, somehow just now, I've got Deke on the line.
I never did get his numbers.
He just got through.
I didn't get his phone number, his area code, any of that.
He just got through.
Deke Richards got through.
What an incredible story you're about to hear.
So we'll just let it be the next truth or trash story.
But I want to let him tell it.
It is absolutely amazing.
Stay right where you are.
Don't touch that dock.
unidentified
You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from April 20th, 2001.
Okay, the craft was, it looked like stainless steel.
It was very, very shiny.
It was very shiny.
The tip of it was down into the dirt.
About half of it.
After we had gotten out, we had realized that half the craft was literally down in the dirt.
And the back side, of course, was out.
The left side was ripped open.
You know, like if you took a can opener and just ripped a can wide open.
Yes.
This thing was ripped from one end from stem to stern.
And there were these tubes hanging out of this thing.
And it had this green ooze coming out of these, coming out of the tubes.
And I personally thought, I mean, having a large background in mechanics and everything else, I thought to myself that this must be the engine, the mechanism that drove this craft.
and the the uh...
the body were outside the craft probably ten to fifteen feet away needed it looked like the papers I did not see them walk because they were dead when we got there.
Yeah, because they had people there that was picking up the debris field.
The debris field was incredible.
I mean, they were told to pick up every little piece, even the size of a cigarette butt, just pick it up.
They had to sanitize the whole area.
They had people come in there with blow torches and blow torch, you know, set of fire to roots and everything else.
And then the engineers came in there and they buried everything.
And then they took us up to the CERN up there, Bad Hirschveld, and they took us into the barracks under lock and key, I might add.
And nobody was allowed to leave in the whole barracks.
Now, 50 to 60 people can fill up a barracks pretty fast.
Okay, now usually in a company, a barracks has usually 200 people, but we were on the first floor.
We were in the first and the 13th building there.
And a Fulbright colonel, which I've never met before, came into the billets.
And he gave us the greeting and everything.
And he told us, he said, gentlemen, he said, the events that you have witnessed in the last 72 hours is not to be discussed in any way, shape, fashion, or form.
And to do so, UCMJ will certainly be involved.
That is a uniform code of military justice.
You will wind up 20 to 30 years in Fort Leavenworth.
And there's no doubt in my mind that you certainly don't want to do that.
And most of all, nobody on a need-to-know basis is to know this information.
And believe me, there's nobody out there with a need-to-know basis.
i would like to do is ask them he is there it would work again what company were you in on i mean uh...
which the people that were there that might be out in the audience right now that could verify your story cooperate your story um...
don't give me names but i mean But what kind of people should we be looking for?
People who are in what military group?
unidentified
All right.
Now, I was in the 29th Supply and Service Company in Baumholder.
Okay.
The 293rd Combat Engineers, Alpha, Bravo, and Echo companies were up there.
And the 48th Maintenance Company was up there in Bad Hurstfeld.
The other wrecker operator, the driver that drove the deuce and a half for the bodies, the driver that drove the flatbed that had the craft on it, and the other soldiers that were there doing a police call.
And also, I'm sure that the sanitation team, and that was 20 years ago.
What are they going to do to us now?
It's like, nan, nan, nan, nan, nana, come up and find me, you know.
Well, and uh, well, I would never say nana nana nana, not the devil.
But I mean, you may be right.
I mean, look, 20 years has passed, but still in all, you're telling us that we've had contact, albeit with dead aliens, or maybe dead, for all you know, maybe they weren't dead.
unidentified
Try this one on for Size Art.
After this had taken place, they had to pick me in a psycho ward for four weeks because I was having nightmares about this.
In other words, the way the tear was, you'd have to be down at ground level looking up.
unidentified
Right.
You'd literally have to lay down on the ground, put your chest right down on the ground, put your ear down into the dirt and everything else and look up.
But you could just see these tubes where that gas was.
The tubes were hanging out with that green ooze coming out of them.
Now, it wasn't gushing out like a fire hose, right?
Well, if what you're saying is true, and if we get corroboration of it, then it's every big, every bit as big as Roswell in New Mexico, and maybe bigger because it's much more recent.
All right, I want you to stay right there.
I'll take you off the air and get your cell phone number.