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April 19, 2001 - Art Bell
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art bell
A man who needs no introduction.
He is known and studied worldwide.
He is a legend in his own time.
Zachariah Sitchin, who, by the way, has some breaking news, an exclusive for us tonight that he'll be telling us about.
As I speak to you, the desert devil winds are blowing.
It's 40 miles per hour plus out there.
The winds are howling across the desert.
So think about that wherever you are.
You probably have better weather than we do.
I would like to welcome a new affiliate once again, K-R-K-Y.
Yet another one in Dillon, Colorado, 9.30 on the dial.
K-R-K-Y, Dillon, Colorado, 9.30 on the dial.
Hello there, M.R. Murray.
He's GMPD there.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Nice to be on there in Dillon.
You have no idea what you're in for.
You're about to find out.
Remember, stations, we do prefeeds three hours prior to the start of the live show.
We do three hours of prefeeds from the previous night.
Going all the way back east where it's late.
We've only got an hour with Zachariah Sitchin, so you know who he is.
The world knows who he is.
You know about what he thinks about the Anunnaki.
And I think you know that he does all this, and this is why people listen to Zachariah, not because he pulls his information from the cosmic behind, but because he pulls his information from ancient knowledge, ancient writings.
So what he has to say really counts.
I suggest you listen very closely.
Zachariah, welcome to the program.
zecharia sitchin
Good morning, Mark.
art bell
Good morning to you.
zecharia sitchin
It's good to be on the program again with you.
art bell
Yes, it's been a long time, hasn't it?
zecharia sitchin
Well, at the right moment, we somehow managed to get together.
And there are really many exciting things to talk about tonight.
art bell
Okay.
I think that people understand, well, maybe they don't, your theory about the Anunnaki, and I suppose that can be briefly stated.
But ancient knowledge, what you say to these people tonight, and whenever you're on, doesn't come from just nowhere.
It comes from translations and ancient knowledge, doesn't it?
zecharia sitchin
Yes.
art bell
So talk a little bit about where you get all of this information.
zecharia sitchin
Okay.
As I may remind your listeners, I'm sure many of them are familiar with my writings.
My first book, The Twelfth Planet, was published exactly a quarter of a century ago and based entirely on the writings, first of all, of the Sumerians who wrote on clay tablets beginning some 6,000 years ago, then about the evidence left behind by the subsequent civilizations of the ancient Near East, the Hittites, the Egyptians, etc.
And combining all that with the Bible, the Old Testament, and especially the book of Genesis, what I have found was that what others consider nobody, but consider as myths, as mythology, was really the recording of highly sophisticated knowledge that in a nutshell told us the following.
That soon after our solar system was created, it was invaded by a planet that was thrust out of its own solar system, was passing near ours, was drawn into the center of our solar system, had a collision with an existing olden planet in our solar system.
As a result of that collision, three things happened.
The Earth and the Moon came into being.
The asteroid belt came into being.
And the invading planet got caught into a vast elliptical orbit around our sun, into our vicinity about every 3,600 years, and becoming thus the tenth planet, or as the ancients called it, the twelfth member of the solar system because they counted sun, moon, and ten planets.
art bell
When it does come back, Zachariah, when it does come back, how close does it come to Earth?
zecharia sitchin
Between Mars and Jupiter.
art bell
Between Mars and Jupiter?
zecharia sitchin
Yes.
That should be quite close.
That's pretty close.
art bell
Yes, it is.
zecharia sitchin
And according to those tales, that planet coming from some other solar system in the cosmos brought into ours and transmitted to what we call the planet Earth the seed of life that we nowadays call DNA.
Now that happened billions of years ago.
About 450,000 years ago, intelligent beings from that planet traveled in space, arrived on our planet in search of gold, at some point needing assistance, needing manpower,
jumped the gun on evolution and took the hominids who had already evolved on Earth and combining their genes with those of the hominids brought about some 300,000 years ago us Homo sapiens.
This is the essence of the story.
art bell
We were created to mine gold for mine gold.
zecharia sitchin
But in time they gave us civilization and if you check it you see that the stages of our advancement happen them for 600 years.
art bell
Now I wonder if that accounts, Zachariah, for why when we touch gold and feel gold and think about gold, especially if you just touch it, put gold in your hand, you're feeling something more Than just something valuable.
There's something, I don't know, there's something about gold.
zecharia sitchin
Well, this infatuation with gold is really inexplicable unless you accept the ancient tale.
The people in the Americas refer to gold as the tears, the tears of the gods, and so on.
Now, against that background art, here I'm sitting a few weeks ago and reading the two parallel reports by the two teams that have deciphered the human genome.
art bell
They just deciphered the genome in middle February.
And they did it way ahead of time.
They said, wow, we really got done fast, much faster than that.
zecharia sitchin
We welcome that, of course.
And they said that the human genome has about 30,000 genes, has about 3 billion letters of the DNA alphabet, but they are lumped into effective genes only about 30,000.
art bell
And they thought there were a whole lot more, didn't they?
zecharia sitchin
They did, but it really got done fast, much faster than we welcome that, of course.
And they said that the human genome has about 30,000 genes, has about 3 billion letters of the DNA alphabet, but they are lumped into effective genes only about 30,000.
and they thought there were a whole lot pretty complex Then they found out two things, one that was highlighted in all the headlines, and one that you found hidden only and discovered only when you read the reports very carefully.
The major finding was that the findings are humbling because they discovered that we are no different from chimpanzees by no more than 1% of the genes.
In other words, we have 30,000, so about 300 of them make the difference between us and chimpanzees.
We have barely twice as many genes as the fruit fly or some worm, etc.
art bell
Twice as many as a worm?
zecharia sitchin
About twice, yes.
And they found and they really traced how the DNA that somehow arrived on Earth and more and more they say through some comet, something from outer space brought it, which is corroboration of the ancient tale.
And then how it grew through bacteria and invertebrates and vertebrates like a tree of life, showing how we arrived with all the things we are proud of.
art bell
So then bacteria then had some job in the formulation of our present genetic structure.
zecharia sitchin
Right.
art bell
Present genetic structure.
zecharia sitchin
Now here comes the sleeper art.
They found out that as they trace the genetic development on Earth from the lowly bacteria to intelligent human beings, there are 223 precisely genes that cannot be accounted for through this progression from some bacteria to invertebrates to vertebrates.
And none other than the science editor of Newsweek referred to those genes as alien genes.
art bell
Alien genes?
zecharia sitchin
Alien genes?
Okay, so that's a newsweek.
art bell
So now they've completed the whole genetic amazing they did it so quickly in mid-February.
This is really important for the audience to understand.
Yeah, it took a few years, not as many as they thought, so we're simpler than they thought.
zecharia sitchin
And then after everything is said and done, there's 223 genes that cannot be accounted for through the evolutionary process.
When I read that word, alien genes, I said to myself, I'd better contact that science editor and everybody else.
And the way to do that was to put the story on my website, which people, by the way, are welcome to look up.
It's sitchin.com.
art bell
Yeah, we've got a link.
zecharia sitchin
And I said, and I called it the case of Adam's alien genes.
Now, if you ask those scientific groups, how did we get those mysterious or unexplained genes, they say, well, at some point, maybe a group of bacteria gave it to us.
art bell
In other words, they don't know.
zecharia sitchin
Well, the Bible says that at some point, the group, the entity, the divine beings that the Bible calls Elohim, which is a plural word in Hebrew, should be translated gods, but usually translated God with a capital G, that they talked to each other and said, let us fashion the Adam in our image and after our likeness.
Now, if the difference between us and chimpanzees is caused by bacteria, then you must say that it is a group of bacteria that got together and started to talk to each other and said, well, why don't we fashion an intelligent being to look like us?
But we don't look like bacteria.
art bell
Well, some would say, perhaps, Zachariah, that those bacteria were directed by the hand of God.
zecharia sitchin
okay okay now we get to what i really want to On April 8th, which is what, about eleven days ago, the New York Times carried an article on its front page headlined, Evolutionists Battle,
New Theory on Creation.
And the article said that the so-called creationists who disagree with the pure evolution are up to some new tricks.
First of all, they are not those Bible-belt guys, because they are all scientists.
And what they say is, well, yes, there was evolution, but at some point, somebody interfered and this whoever, the intelligent designer.
art bell
The intelligent designer.
Right.
zecharia sitchin
And the whole new theory about which those who believe in evolution complain because now it's scientists who say that, is called the intelligent design theory.
Now, listen carefully, please.
The fifth paragraph in the New York Times, and I'm reading from my copy, which is late city edition of April 8th, says as follows.
This designer, you know, the intelligent designer, may be much like the biblical god with the capital G, proponents say.
But they are open to other explanations, such as the proposition that life was seeded by a meteorite from elsewhere in the cosmos, or the New Age philosophy that the universe is suffused with a mysterious but inanimate life force.
Now, the same story was carried on at the New York Times and must be the original early version.
I have that in front of me as well.
Antotech's fifth paragraph in the website says as follows.
This designer may be much like the biblical God, proponents said, but they are open to other explanations, such as the proposition that life was seeded by a meteorite from elsewhere in the cosmos, possibly involving extraterrestrial intelligence, or the New Age philosophy that the universe is suffused by a mysterious universe.
Now, did you catch the difference?
Oh, yes, of course I did.
The words possibly involving extraterrestrial intelligence were exercised by whoever in the late city edition of the New York Times.
art bell
Who, would you imagine, applied the pressure that made those words disappear, Zachariah?
zecharia sitchin
Well, frankly, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
But I think, you know, sometimes they say that one has to read between the lines, but in this case, one has to read the lines.
art bell
Oh, yes.
Well, or try to imagine the missing lines.
The riot.
That's an absolute.
zecharia sitchin
Well, now this is the first time, by the way, I mentioned it to anybody.
art bell
Well, now Zach Riot.
zecharia sitchin
I'm letting you and your listeners have this story.
art bell
Zach Riot?
It is a scoop.
And, you know, though, we have to say, let's think.
What are the odds that, oh, you know, it was just a typo?
In other words, somehow in that printing, it got mixed up and forgot that sentence.
zecharia sitchin
I didn't know that you're so generous.
art bell
I'm not.
I'm trying to get the listeners out there to understand how unlikely it is that that incredibly important sentence would simply just be there in the first place and then disappear in the second place.
We can imagine all kinds of things about who got behind its disappearance.
That's amazing.
Absolutely amazed.
So I'm sure you're smiling.
zecharia sitchin
The point is that in the original version of this article on the front page of the New York Times, whoever wrote it and whoever accepted it in its original version actually accepted everything that I say the Schumerian said 6,000 years ago.
And to me, this is so exciting and sensational that I really don't sleep nights out because I'm so, so, so overwhelmed by all these discoveries.
Now, this is in genetics.
Now, a day before the New York Times article, there is an article in a magazine called Science News reporting the findings of a French observatory that has been working, by the way, to my knowledge.
I've tried to contact them from time to time about the search for what they call planet X, meaning the tenth and the unknown.
And they say, here's the opening paragraph in that report, far beyond the solar system's nine known planets, a body as massive as Mars may once have been part of our system, and it might still be there.
art bell
You know, I read the same stories.
zecharia sitchin
Zachariah.
art bell
Yes, I know.
I read exactly the same story, and when I read it, I thought of you.
Actually, they say that.
Might still be there.
Absolutely fascinating.
Zachariah, we're at the bottom of the hour, so hold on.
That's plenty to digest for one segment.
Oh my.
So our genetic makeup is all recorded, duly recorded now.
They're done.
But there's these genes that they can't account.
These alien genes is what they're calling them.
And then there's that alien exorcism in the New York Times.
Oh, my, my, I'm sure Zachariah is smiling.
I'm Mark Bell.
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art bell
I don't know if you understand the significance of what you just heard, but I'd call a friend and have him listen to her replay, and I'd certainly be in tune for the next half hour.
Then comes Danien Brinkley.
I'm Art Bell.
Then you go to my website, as always, wartbell.com.
Go to tonight's guest info, and you can go to Zachariah's website.
You can read about everything he just told you and a whole lot more so that you might understand why he's so excited right now since science is beginning to underline what he thinks with regard to our origins.
No small matter, our origins, right?
So science is now underlying everything he's saying, and I'm sure put a big smile on his face, right?
zecharia sitchin
You're asking me.
You're telling me.
art bell
I can hear the smile.
That's good enough.
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And you don't get that very often on radio.
zecharia sitchin
People say that whenever they want to take a picture of me at my lectures or seminars, they say you never smile.
Oh, so the next time someone wants to do it.
art bell
The next time you want a good picture of Zachariah, you bring a copy of the New York Times with you, and you hold that behind the camera.
zecharia sitchin
That's a good idea.
art bell
What do you think, Zachariah, that would happen if the Anunnaki came back?
What would their intention be for us now?
zecharia sitchin
Well, this is, I, of course, pondered that question many times, not only if they come, when they come, etc.
Now, we have to go back to, because I keep telling people who come to hear me, and by the way, if I may say this, on my website, any forthcoming lectures or seminars will be listed so people can look it up.
So they can write to me at my PO Box, 577, New York, New York, 10185.
art bell
Wait a minute, wait a minute, that's too fast.
zecharia sitchin
P. Box, 577.
art bell
Right.
zecharia sitchin
New York, New York, 10185.
art bell
10185.
zecharia sitchin
Okay.
By the way, I'm so old-fashioned that I answer all my mails.
art bell
Do you, really?
zecharia sitchin
Every letter.
art bell
I would imagine a lot of people would write to you just to have a letter from you and to have your name.
zecharia sitchin
That's fine.
I think if people take the time, if they read my books and think about them and take the time to write a letter to me, Ed or I to respond.
Well, so I really believe, and I keep stressing that, that the past is the future, you know.
Though my writings are rooted really in the Old Testament, but I'm familiar with the New Testament and especially the book of Revelation, which repeats what the Hebrew prophet had said, that the first things shall be the last things, and the last things are the first things.
Alpha.
art bell
What do you think that means?
zecharia sitchin
That means that things are cyclical, and what happened in the past will be repeated.
And what we know is that in one instance, and that was the great flood, the deluge, according to the Bible, God decided that mankind did not turn out right, was evil, whatever, and said, we will use the opportunity of this deluge that the earth will be flooded to wipe mankind off the face of the earth.
And then eight verses later, it says that the same God said, well, let me save mankind by telling a guy called Noah to build the ark and to take with him this and do this and do that, and so that life on earth and mankind will not perish.
art bell
Yes, except that, of course, there was no admittance to two Nephilim onto the ark.
zecharia sitchin
Well, so the more detailed tales of the Sumerians on which this biblical tale is based say that there were two leaders.
One was named Enlil, meaning Lord of the Command, who was the strict one, and one was Enki, Lord of Earth, who was the chief scientist and was involved in the very genetic engineering which we discussed in the first part of this program.
And each time the strict one said mankind is no good, it didn't turn out right, they proliferate too much, they are evil, etc., etc.
And I think you will agree with me that especially in the last century, there was enough evil to justify mankind being punished.
The other one, and he said, no, no, no, they are really Azi said, you know, they are our genes.
We intermarried with them.
Many of their offspring are us.
we cannot destroy them.
Now, who is the leader now?
If it's Enlil, I'm serious, Artis.
art bell
I know you're serious.
zecharia sitchin
You're talking about if they come back.
Yes, if he is the leader, and he leads the group that pays us the next visit, and he may say, I told you so.
I told you so.
They are evil, they are no good.
Let's be done with them.
If it's Anki, he may say, well, you know, some are bad, some are good, but after all, they are our creations.
We are responsible for them.
We gave them civilization.
If they know how to use nuclear weapons, we taught them because we the Anunnaki used nuclear weapons in the fights between us around 4,000 years ago.
So now mankind also knows how to do it.
So I really don't know who the leader is, and it may go either way.
art bell
You know, Zachariah, it's a little like being a Palestinian and watching for the next Israeli election, huh?
Understand what I mean?
zecharia sitchin
In other words, you can think of many examples, but who knows?
I really don't.
art bell
That's a particularly good one, though.
And of course, the Palestinians right now are finding out the last election was probably the guys who would have erased Earth.
zecharia sitchin
anyway well they that's what that's what i've got to get them in the body they they they didn't take the best of the difference given to them so are anyway that yes that but the point is we we have to get good one
art bell
and that perhaps they would be kind to us?
zecharia sitchin
Could be.
Well, you know, if you really trace, as you know, from that very first book that was really the cornerstone, the twelfth planet, there are eight by now, the latest being the Cosmic Code, which really deals with the encoded messages in the biblical text.
And I point out there that the way we run our computer digitally is the way the code is in the Bible, because the letters are really representing numbers.
So there is definitely been an evolution among them too.
First of all, because those who were here represented several generations.
There were those who originally just came from their planet and many went back, some stayed.
Then they had children and offspring.
Then there was the intermarriage before the deluge.
Then there were other so-called demigods.
The second book that I wrote, The Stairway to Heaven, deals with the search for immortality.
The so-called demigods, be it Sumerian or Egyptian, believe that they are entitled to the longevity of the so-called gods with the small G. So there were many, they were not uniform.
You're quite right in pointing that out.
art bell
Zachariah, wouldn't this be an important consideration?
Now that we have unraveled the human genome, wouldn't it be a sort of a race to see if we could begin manipulating our own genetic code before the Anunnaki return?
zecharia sitchin
Well, first of all, I want to say that as far as cloning is concerned, what we can do, we will do.
No, no, no, Lord, nobody will stop us.
Yeah, but forget pause for a second.
art bell
Think about just manipulation of our genetic.
In other words, if we were originally designed by the Anunnakios gold miners, and they would have designed our genetics so that we weren't as smart as we might be.
We use 10% of our brain, I'm told.
So if we're able to manipulate our own genetic code, by the time they get back, we could be, well, a whole new species.
zecharia sitchin
And then?
Well, aren't we trying to do that already by trying to get to Mars?
And each time we get frustrated there?
art bell
Well, we have a new mission on the way now, you know.
zecharia sitchin
Yeah, I know.
Well, it will take us, what, two, three years to get there.
But Mars is really the best example to point to and to discuss the issue that you just raised.
Because there's absolutely clear photographic and other evidence that there are remains of artificial structures on Mars.
art bell
Oh, you have seen the new photographs?
zecharia sitchin
Yeah, I've seen the new photographs.
art bell
Have you been hearing what Sir Arthur Clark has been saying?
zecharia sitchin
Yes.
art bell
Uh-huh.
zecharia sitchin
And Tom von Flander and others.
And Marsh not only had little water, had actually seas and lakes, and had an atmosphere and was habitable.
That's right.
And the question is, you know, even those like Arthur Clark or Tom Flander and others who are on the establishment side of the fence say, look, these are not artificial structures.
These are not natural structures, these are artificial, these are man-made, etc.
They all stop at some threshold.
And the question is: so if they are not natural, who built them, who erected them?
Yes, of course.
And everyone, and this goes to the same article in the New York Times, everyone, when they see the word extraterrestrial, they get frightened.
art bell
Yes.
zecharia sitchin
Why?
art bell
Well, I don't know, but here's an even better question.
If we really do go to Mars or our next probe finds evidence, absolute evidence of life, large life, as Sir Arthur Clark said, perhaps even old life, it doesn't matter, it's going to be very important news.
And will it get into the same New York Times that removed a sentence about aliens?
In other words, would we be told?
zecharia sitchin
Well, you and I know that so much is already known and is not being told.
I've tried to, for example, in my book Genesis Revisited, I discussed the existence at that time hardly known now, maybe more people know about it, that after some discoveries made in 1983 and the meetings between President Reagan and Gorbachev,
an international commission was established under the Oshem State Department, but including representatives from all major powers.
And its mission, as expressed in a document called the Declaration of Principles, was how to delay for 48 hours the news that a contact has been made with an alien intelligence.
art bell
48 hours.
zecharia sitchin
Now, you know, if you ask, you know, the official and they say, is there another intelligence in the universe?
They say, well, probably yes, but, you know, with so many billions of stars and planets and galaxies and all that, but this is light, light years away, you know, the chance of communication is nil.
now if this is so what is the point in delaying the news for forty eight hours very point and i'm trying to and i'm Gee, what would you do with 48 hours if you had it?
art bell
Anyway, I can't think what you would do.
Maybe you'd get the military out in the streets.
I don't know.
That'd be about the best you could do.
zecharia sitchin
I know what they would do.
I know what they would do.
What would they do?
They would call Arddale and say, can we be on your next program?
That's why they need 48 hours.
art bell
I can schedule faster than that.
Well, if I have to.
zecharia sitchin
I mean, the only way is really to treat it as a joke, right?
Because nobody can be serious and say if an alien intelligence, not beings, God forbid, but an intelligence, you know, like a stone that can think, and contacted us, we should delay the news for 48 hours.
48 hours.
art bell
I've interviewed the people who run SETI many times, and they have always denied that there would be any delay at all.
And I've gone round and round and round with them about that.
Listen, I want to ask you, Zachariah, before we run out of time, did you pick up the telephone and call up the New York Times and say, hey, guys, what happened to that sentence?
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No.
art bell
You didn't?
zecharia sitchin
No.
First of all, I'll tell you the truth.
When I saw that, when I read it for the first time, when I read the release of their website was the first thing I read.
And I saw this extraterrestrial and I thought this is a wow, wow, wow, you know, on the front page of the New York Times.
And then others called me and said, hey, did you see that?
They say maybe it's even an extraterrestrial intelligence that is the so-called the great designer, et cetera, et cetera.
And then before when I arranged the papers, the document, I mean, there's so much more to talk about, so I'm going to have to do it another time.
All the papers in this, including the front page.
And I'm looking and I'm looking for that sentence and I don't see it to myself.
Did I imagine it?
What about all those who called me about it?
And then I read word for word, comparing paragraph five, and I see that on my front page, the late city edition, it just continues as if those words possibly involving extraterrestrial intelligence were never in the text.
So this revelation came to me as I was preparing for this interview with you.
art bell
Tonight, that passed, huh?
My, my.
Well, so they haven't had time to call them up.
zecharia sitchin
Will you do that?
I don't think I'll call them up because that's up to them.
But I suggest that they look up the New York Times website from April 8, 2001.
art bell
Yes.
And then compare it to the...
zecharia sitchin
But some people who called me had the edition of the New York Times, which had those crucial words.
art bell
And so it was between editions that these words just somehow disappeared.
zecharia sitchin
Well, somebody must have read it and said they fell, you know.
art bell
The biggest contiguous typo in New York Times printing history.
zecharia sitchin
Maybe there'll be a correction.
art bell
Well, at the very least, if you don't go, I guarantee you a lot of my listeners will.
Zachariah Sinchin, as always, it is an incredible pleasure to have you here.
And every time you're here for one hour, I always say, hey, Zachariah, how come I always only get one hour?
You always say, oh, Art, next time we'll have more time.
zecharia sitchin
Well, you know, there is a time difference.
It's a dictator I am in New York.
art bell
Well, say the words anyway.
zecharia sitchin
And I'm not as young as you are.
art bell
I know, but say the words anyway.
Say sometime Art will do a longer show.
zecharia sitchin
Sometime Art will do a longer show.
art bell
Good night.
zecharia sitchin
Good night.
art bell
Good night, Zachariah.
Well, that was something.
That was really something, folks.
We invite you to do your own comparison with regard to what the New York Times did.
As always, think for yourself.
I'm Arpell.
This is Costa Colombo.
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This is Coaster Coast A.M. with Arbel from the Kingdom of Night.
art bell
If for any reason at all you missed the last hour with Zachariah Sitchin, find a computer and go listen to it.
That's all I can say about Zachariah Sitchin.
It was an incredible hour, and we've got incredible hours coming up.
You're about to speak with a man, listen to a man who was dead.
You talk about NBEs.
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art bell
If for any reason at all you missed the last hour with Zachariah Sitchin, find a computer and go listen to it.
That's all I can say about Zachariah Sitchin.
It was an incredible hour, and we've got incredible hours coming up.
You're about to speak with a man, listen to a man who was dead.
You talk about NDEs.
Daniel Brinkley was dead for 20 minutes.
20 minutes.
And he had incredible, incredible experiences.
He acquired incredible powers that I know personally to be absolutely real.
Even annoying at times, but real.
And everything that happened to him is real.
We're going to tell Daniel's story because I know a lot of you may never have heard it.
Maybe the person longest dead in the way he was killed to come back.
And he's got a lot to say about it.
Danion Brinkley, coming up next.
unidentified
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art bell
Now, that sound is most appropriate on every program, but perhaps never more appropriate than as I bring on Daniel Brinkley.
Dan, hi.
dannion brinkley
Hi, Art.
art bell
How are you doing?
dannion brinkley
Last hour was fabulous, Art.
art bell
Wasn't that something with Zachariah?
dannion brinkley
You know, Zachariah and I both traveled with Abbas and a vision.
So through the years, I've had a chance to sit and listen to him and to see the thrill about how Zachariah has looked at this through the years and to have that kind of endorsement.
And it makes more sense than anything else we've ever heard.
art bell
I just got a fast blast from David in Berkeley, California, who just went and checked what Zachariah said.
And he says, I just checked the New York Times story.
And they did have the all-important words, extraterrestrial intelligence exorcised.
So already the listeners are checking, and it's true.
dannion brinkley
But the whole joy of just listening to Zachariah, the analogy that you made of the Palestinians and the Israelis was absolutely brilliant politically also to compliment you on that art.
And now that we left out when that final 3,600-year period is coming into play, this planet that they're searching for, and if it's the same as he was talking, like the Mayan calendar, then it fits into a lot of the stuff that we're in the boxes of knowledge.
art bell
we'll get to the boxes of knowledge.
That's kind of rushing the story a little.
But yeah, you're right, of course.
Where are you now?
Are you at home?
dannion brinkley
I'm sitting in Aiken, South Carolina, at the desk in my rocket ship, the chair that I always sit in when I think through when we're interviewing.
art bell
All right.
dannion brinkley
You've been here since 1757.
art bell
You mean like your family tree?
dannion brinkley
Yeah, this house.
We built this house.
We bought this land in 1757, built the house in 1804.
art bell
The whole area is so, I don't know, early America beautiful.
I mean, it's just a beautiful place where you live and so very different than where I am here in the desert.
dannion brinkley
Oh, yeah.
And the wind's not blowing.
It's like 80 degrees here.
art bell
It's 80 there?
We're getting 40 miles per hour plus.
It's screaming.
The devil winds of the desert, I call it.
All right.
dannion brinkley
When it's not lightning.
art bell
Yeah.
Well, hey, did you like my little, or maybe you didn't like it?
I don't know.
When you hear that sound, does that have a sort of a metal effect on you?
dannion brinkley
Absolutely, it does.
There's absolutely no way around it.
No way.
art bell
All right.
So anyway, growing up, you grew up in South Carolina.
Yep.
And by the way, folks, they did a movie.
If you could ever get hold of the movie they did on Dan, you've really got to watch it.
Who played you?
dannion brinkley
Eric Roberts.
art bell
Eric Roberts played you in the movie.
dannion brinkley
And if you see it, if you can get a copy of it in Japanese, this was on the Fox Television Network art, and it went probably into 70 countries.
It's seen by 100 million people all over the world.
And someone sent me a copy of it dubbed in Japanese, and it's really good to watch me speak in Japanese.
art bell
Well, for most people, Dan, the thrill wouldn't be there.
They'd want to hear the story.
And the story is really interesting.
I mean, here you are growing up in a real small southern town, and you were, well, anyway, the movie certainly made you.
dannion brinkley
He was our art.
art bell
You were the town bully.
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
art bell
The town bully.
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
art bell
The biggest, baddest.
dannion brinkley
Tried to be.
art bell
Well, I mean, if his portrayal was even half accurate, nowhere near.
You were a miserable lump.
dannion brinkley
Oh, yeah, a complete jerk.
I mean, you grow up in South Carolina.
You know, we're rolling back now 50 years.
art bell
Don't be blaming it on South Carolina.
dannion brinkley
Well, but you, got it.
You roll back 50 years.
And in 50 years, you know, you grew up down here 50 years ago, 1950, I'm 50 years old.
And this took place 25 years.
And in the years before that, you know, down here in the deep south, the Bible meant everybody goes to hell down here.
And you never really get a religious kind of perspective that opens up a spiritual place.
So sometimes you either fall for it and you're an evil sinner, or sometimes you begin to just really look at the aspects of what religion is.
And I never could find too much to it.
I tried to understand it earlier.
But what I understand is you could talk to them for a few minutes and hope they're going to do right, or you could knock the fire out of them and see to it that they did right.
And I developed this from the time I was in the third or fourth or fifth grade.
You know, I'm six foot four, weight, 240 pounds.
I learned how to fight, and the way I got attention and the way I had people to pay attention to me was that I was a tough guy.
You know, I grew up all the way through that.
I grew up by the time I played 14 and 15, I played sports, and I really love to knock the fire out of people and listen to the radio show the next morning.
art bell
I'm told, actually, that people in your town will still tell stories about what allowed you were.
dannion brinkley
You've been here and heard them.
art bell
Well, I know.
dannion brinkley
You know, but I can't help that.
This is who I was.
And what I try to bring to the table is, you know, being 50 years old, like so many baby boomers, here's just one story.
And I started out with no idea about any of this stuff.
I wouldn't, you know, you are interesting, Art Bell, but people talk about near-death experiences down here, and no one had ever spoken about it.
And you didn't exist in the world of what you now talk about.
And Raymond Moody hadn't written the book.
Life After Life, which is now in its 25th year, 1975.
I found out sports, and then I found out ballroom brawling, and then I discovered the Marine Corps where you could, you know, they even taught you how to shoot people and to get that same release.
art bell
And you did.
dannion brinkley
Oh, absolutely.
No problem about it.
art bell
You did some pretty dark stuff in the service, didn't you?
dannion brinkley
Well, after out of the service, I mean, the service was only a training ground to bring you into whatever kind of program that they were working with at that time.
art bell
It made you more proficient.
dannion brinkley
Oh, yeah.
And it gave me the thrill of a precision of executing where I would overpower an enemy at 600 yards.
You know, it was a wonderful, wonderful thing when the 700 Remington with a 3.9 scope replaced, especially a Douglas board barrel, replaced the M1D.
And sometimes you used a 1903A4 Springfield as a sniper.
But the 700 Remington with that 3.9 redfield scope brought in a whole new era.
How much damage you could do at 800 yards.
art bell
At 50 years old, not that I want to bring us forward very long just for a moment though, but at 50 years old, knowing what you did, how often do you reflect and do you feel guilt?
Do you have remorse for all of that now?
dannion brinkley
Jesus Christ, yes.
I have to have remorse.
You know, my basic personality, all these near-death experiences just tend to bend it a little.
You know, I still have the basic personality, but you couldn't have done what I did.
You can't go back and look at it even without the near-death experiences as I've matured.
You can't go back and not, no matter what you've been through, and see some of the things you did, because I was a, God have mercy.
I mean, I did some things, knowing when we get through what happened in the near-death experience, but I did some stuff that, you know, it was horrible, but it didn't really matter or was not too bad because of my intent, you know, what I was really doing it for, protecting.
But, you know, in the course of doing that, like anything that does with war or just basic aggressive testosterone or anger or frustration with the loss of friends or companions, you did some pretty horrible stuff.
art bell
Yeah.
dannion brinkley
You know, I had the opportunity to spend four or five years in a lot of places in America, not in the Americas, but in the whole world.
art bell
Well, even if you hadn't had the NDEs, although I can't be sure, by the time you get to be our age, and I'm 55.
dannion brinkley
I'd be dead now.
Well, I would have never made it back.
art bell
Yeah, but I mean, no matter what happens to you, you begin to reflect on your life and the things that you've done that you're sorry for.
And it's just kind of a natural process, I guess, as you get older.
You begin to do that.
But in your case, you had a lot of help.
All right, you had a massive, a massive NDE.
Tell people when and how, tell that story, please.
dannion brinkley
Well, when it all began, you're talking about a type A personality, tough guy.
I mean, and built his whole life on how much he thought he could intimidate people.
And his religion was, you know, whatever anybody hired me to do at that particular time in my life.
art bell
That's a religion for some people.
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
You know, I think it's adrenaline rush, and it's that sense of whatever it is that makes you think you're a man and all that kind of garbage.
And I was sitting talking on the telephone one evening in 1975, and I was hit in the head by a bolt of lightning.
I mean, talking on the telephone.
art bell
It hits straight on the head.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, it came straight, followed the phone line down, and hit me straight just above where the phone receiver was.
It went down my neck, then that hit my neck, went down my spine, welded the nails of the heels of my shoes to the floor.
art bell
Welded the nails, welded the nails right to the floor.
dannion brinkley
Right, and threw me in the air, suspended me in the air, and slammed me down on the bed.
art bell
And you caught fire, right?
dannion brinkley
Well, they estimated that it was 180,000 volts that had passed through that line.
The ampage they couldn't tell, but a strike of bolt of lightning can go from one volt to 50,000 volts with 100,000 amperes in 1.2 seconds.
art bell
Well, there were enough amperes.
If it welded, after going through your body, if it welded nails to the floor nails or to the floor, then there was plenty of amperage there because that's exactly what it takes to do that, is amperage.
dannion brinkley
Exactly.
It burnt all the hair off my, you know, off my body.
You know that story?
It burnt the sides of my neck.
It put this pattern across my skin.
art bell
Yeah, actually, hair still does not grow on you, does it?
dannion brinkley
Well, I have maybe, you know, in the last six years, I've grown a little hair, but I didn't have hair on me for years and years and years.
It burnt all the follicles.
It moved across my skin.
It was like electrolysis.
It just moved across my skin and then entered, it went all the way down my spine and moved across my skin and burnt the hair off.
And then, only on a small patch on the side of my head.
And then it burnt my beard.
I had a little beard.
It burnt the whole side of the beard off.
And then almost all the other hair.
But, you know, all of a sudden I go from a place of never even dealing with anything like this to this kind of explosion and the severe, horrendous pain that comes with that.
You know, one thing that I can say about the last 25 years of my life is I've learned to understand pain.
If I was the one who inflicted it, and it was the way to have to balance the fact of the pain that I inflicted, remorse or no remorse, I have definitely, through the course of the last 25 years, had some severe pain inflicted on me.
I mean, the last place we were when we saw each other was the third near-death experience.
So that's another story.
art bell
That's another story.
Let's stay with this one for now.
dannion brinkley
The point was after this lightning strike and being suspended in the air and thrown back down and all those things that go with the paramedics.
art bell
Well, who discovered you?
dannion brinkley
My wife, Sandy, she was standing in the kitchen preparing dinner, and she heard the lightning bolt, and she stepped in the hallway and yelled that that was a close one.
The guy on the other end of the phone, Tommy, TM, which is my friend for 40 years, he came over because he heard the phone go dead and he heard the thunder.
And he only lived about maybe a half a mile from me or a quarter mile.
art bell
All right, so you were literally on fire when they found you, weren't you?
dannion brinkley
Well, the clothes were burned.
Yeah.
And the hair was burnt off of mine, but it was like consuming battery acid.
I was burning from the inside and out.
Not only burning from the inside and out, I could not move.
I couldn't see.
The lightning had to the ball of fire that went around the room.
It burnt my eyes so bad.
And here I am, all right.
art bell
I've seen this happen to cartoon characters, you know, they come out smoking and singed.
Well, for a real human, with real lightning, it's not so humorous, and it stopped you.
In other words, they found you, they called, what'd they do?
dannion brinkley
Went next door and called the paramedics.
art bell
Called the paramedics.
The paramedics, how long did it take them from the time they called, do you think?
dannion brinkley
When you add it all up, from the time I was struck by lightning, which is at 7.05, to the time they got me to the hospital, which is sometime around 8.30, there is about an hour and 15 or 20 minutes in there.
What I always tell people was dead for 28 minutes, Art, because I could have been dead 50 minutes.
art bell
You could have been, but I mean, you can document that, man.
dannion brinkley
I can document that.
art bell
We're talking about vital signs.
dannion brinkley
The 11 minutes and the 17 minutes and the 11 minutes with one breath in between those can be documented.
You know, there's 17 minutes, but it comes up 30 minutes.
art bell
It's a long, damn time to be dead.
It's a long time to be dead.
dannion brinkley
And listen, dead for 28 minutes, completely paralyzed for six days, partially paralyzed for seven months.
Took me two years to learn to walk and feed myself, and I lost more than 52 pounds.
Not just a walk in the park.
art bell
No, not a walk in the park.
dannion brinkley
You know, not just knocking you down and getting up and writing a book and telling a story on a TV show.
art bell
I know, dying, it's dying.
dannion brinkley
Lost everything.
And what I went through in the course of understanding what people go through in the notion of pain and suffering and that kind of stuff did not compare and still has not compared to what happened to me in that 28 minutes.
Those 28 minutes the first time, which was my first, that wasn't a near-death experience.
That was a death experience.
art bell
Yeah, a death experience.
Now, slow up for a second, Dan.
There was a lady who had a tumor in her brain, and 60 Minutes did a piece on it.
It was the most amazing thing you ever saw.
Actually, it was a bulging blood vessel is what it was.
And there was no way they could operate on her because to do so would have killed her.
So the only way they could figure to operate on her was to drain all of her blood, which allowed this thing that could have burst to deflate.
And they reduced her body temperature.
They somehow she was dead.
dannion brinkley
I mean, she was dead.
art bell
Everything gone, dead, good night.
She was dead.
No vital signs, nothing.
They did the entire operation on her brain, fixed it, closed up, put her blood back in her body at an appropriate temperature, and revived her.
Now, she was gone for nigh on to 40-some-odd minutes, Dan.
And at the end of the 60-minutes piece, they said, you know, I guess wondering about the whole life thing.
Where was she?
Where was she for that 40-some-odd minutes, whatever it was?
And that's one hell of a question.
Where was she?
In your case, 28 minutes, where were you?
dannion brinkley
I was lifting out of my body.
I went from intense pain, Art, really intense pain, and not really knowing what to do with it and not being able to move to all of a sudden floating above myself in this blue-gray period.
art bell
Well, the intense pain, Dan, had to be while you still had some form of consciousness.
You had some form for a very short time, obviously.
unidentified
Oh, probably six or seven minutes.
art bell
You believe it was that long?
dannion brinkley
I believe that pain, well, you know, when you measure pain, you measure it in nanoseconds, millions of a second, and pain that intense.
But when you break it down to those moments, I can go back and remember pain so severe and then to shift out.
I shifted out into the blue-gray place.
And then I came back into the body.
I came back into the body.
And this is when Sandy was across me, pounding me on my chest.
art bell
All right.
Hold that and repeat it when we get back.
We're going to a break here.
It's the bottom of the hour.
My guest is Daniel Brinkley.
Most of the world knows, Dan.
If not, keep listening, and you will soon.
Saved by the Light, a New York Times bestseller, and many books since.
And he's got a lot of things going on now, too.
And we'll get to all of that.
But first, I want you to get the rest of the story about what happened to Daniel.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
The smell of the touch.
There's something inside that we need so much.
The sight of the touch, or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak when you speak in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in the middle and hear the grass sing, and all these things in our memory is born.
And the youth of the self.
Ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Take me to the place, I'm in the street, you're for me.
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art bell
Try and imagine for a moment being struck directly by lightning, knowing, having six or seven minutes to know that you're in incredible pain and dying, and then out you go.
And the next thing you know, somebody's pounding on your chest and you're becoming conscious again.
But you know you're still probably a dead person.
Somebody's just pounding on your chest.
Well, that's where we were with Dan, Daniel Brinkley.
And that's where we'll pick up in a moment.
unidentified
Wanna take a ride?
art bell
Already been there, already done that.
Time for this.
My big mouth.
I started to say that's an inspirational commercial, and I had forgotten that there were more to come.
It actually is, though.
The way they did that is really cute.
All right, now, away from cute and back to really, really extremely serious.
And so, Dan, you had several minutes probably to think about, I don't know how conscious you were during that period of pain, that six, seven years.
dannion brinkley
Enormous pain, Art.
Enormous pain.
art bell
Anything, were you able to be conscious of anything at all other than the pain and what had just happened to you?
In other words, were your consciousness rolling anywhere else like, hey, I'm dying?
dannion brinkley
No, it was trying to analyze the situation.
I thought it was an incoming 101 or 155 millimeter or a mortar.
You know, when you hear an incoming, you never think about being struck by lightning.
art bell
That's right.
Sure, you wouldn't think about it.
dannion brinkley
My mindset was walking and loading.
I was trying to find a position.
Where was my weapon?
I'm smelling the air trying to figure out whether it's C4 plastique, what kind of weapons-grade material it was, because I never, my mindset was that.
That's how I thought things.
I couldn't move.
I couldn't see.
You know, it's like hitting a bunker with a shot grenade.
You must find some way to defend yourself because they're coming.
What my mind was doing was when I thought about Sandy, I could not bear the fact of all that overload mentally.
And then the pain was so much, then I'm out of the body.
I'm only out a few moments.
I'm just in that blue-gray place, the place that now after the third near-death experience, I know a ton of more things about it now.
art bell
Well then you weren't viewing your own body, you weren't viewing the...
dannion brinkley
It was blue-gray, dark, and it had this tingling sensation like static electricity.
art bell
Was it like you were floating?
dannion brinkley
Oh, yes, absolutely floating.
I mean, totally, total different point.
Then all of a sudden, I opened my eyes and Sandy straddled across me.
And she must have, she cleared my air passages because she just finished like a week and a half before that or two weeks before that, a course in resuscitation.
art bell
Lucky for you.
dannion brinkley
Oh, you know, there are no accidents.
And so she cleared the passage.
She's 105 pounds.
And when she raised her, I opened my eyes and I'm back on fire from that calm, safe place.
I'm back on fire.
I can't see.
And her hands are gripped.
And she's coming down and hit me on my chest again.
She must have already done it.
And when I saw her hands coming, I'm trying to move, Art.
I'm trying to protect.
I didn't know what she was doing, and I didn't know what had happened.
art bell
Again, that makes sense.
Who would during a resistance?
dannion brinkley
And I, oh God, you know, you're just trying to Well, when she hit my chest and I didn't feel it, when she hit my chest and I didn't feel it, that's the end of all that life stuff.
All of a sudden, I'm back in that blue-gray place and I'm floating.
And I roll over like rolling over or changing perspective is a better term.
And I see her frantically working on me.
I see myself.
Tommy gets there.
I didn't know what auras were then art.
I never heard of an aura and I wouldn't have given a crap what an aura was.
art bell
Yeah, I want to understand this, though.
Here you are now out again of your body after getting whacked in and you didn't feel it, so obviously you were gone again.
But were you in the room above the room?
You were observing this from what sort of vantage point?
dannion brinkley
I'd have to say I was, I mean, when you start to think about it from those points, I was to the left where the doorway, the bed, you came in down the hallway, then there was the doorway, and then there was the bed, which was like perpendicular to the doorway.
And I was on the floor then.
The doorway was to my right and to my dead right, to the person lying there, to his right.
And I was from a vantage point above the door, which was my left, the real me.
art bell
Toward the top of the room, then.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, at the very corner of the room.
art bell
And again, just floating?
dannion brinkley
Floating.
art bell
Seeing, and could you see yourself both lying there singed and smoking and the yourself that's up there?
Could you see anything of yourself?
dannion brinkley
I could see both of them.
I didn't, as I was watching Tommy and Sandy work on me, they had these bodies, these energy bodies.
They were colors and they were like, you know, we now know what auras are.
I mean, everybody, the NIH is using aura studies.
And that Russian guy just saw a report on a guy who is taking auric measurements with a Krelian camera that is being built into Russian fighter planes.
art bell
Oh, I know.
But back then, of course, no aura atom.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, but I wouldn't have known what it was anyway.
You know, there were a lot of records and, you know, mythology about them.
But I could see all these bodies.
What I noticed most about me was I was blue and marked up with these lines all over me, but I didn't have one of these bodies.
I did not have one of those swirling, beautiful energy that was going on.
Even the plants had this.
And I could see, like, the body would almost appear, the physical body was so much less dense when you looked at it from that point.
And the energy bodies, like there were two of them, there were eight different colors, but there was like two more bodies that we have in there inside the physical body.
And they were reacting.
Her emotions and his emotions were reacting and creating these energy bodies.
Even the plants were reacting to their emotion.
unidentified
Wow.
dannion brinkley
That always just amazed me.
art bell
Wow, that's really interesting.
dannion brinkley
Because everything is connected in an energy field, like we float in this.
art bell
Okay, did you at that point have the kind of consciousness that would allow you to say to yourself, wow, look at me, look at them.
I'm lying there and look at them.
And what's happened?
I mean, were you thinking at that, did you have that kind of rational thought process at that time?
No, just sort of detached, not even thinking about it, watching.
dannion brinkley
Just detached observation.
Where I was, I was comfortable and safe.
And remember, my mindset, if I wasn't on fire and burning.
art bell
And in pain, yeah.
dannion brinkley
And I'm in a place where I can see all this.
art bell
That's a better place to be.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, who cares?
I didn't even think about I was dead until I got to the Panoramic Life Review.
I never knew I was dead.
I had no background.
This experience, I mean, I was a reality-based person.
I'm that today.
art bell
All right, so did you remain there until the emergency crew arrived or what?
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I stayed.
I kept watching them.
The thing happened so fast because the station, the emergency paramedic station wasn't very far from the house.
You know, it took them 10 minutes, 8 minutes.
They were on their way there.
I watched this.
But where I was, the place that I was, the place that I was was what's so amazing.
unidentified
I was comfortable.
dannion brinkley
I knew this place.
This place was a part of me and I was a part of it.
When I looked down at myself and I didn't have an energy field around me like they did and the plants did, but then when the paramedics got there and their energy fields, they weren't as brilliant, beautiful colors.
They weren't like pastels and they were calm because now I realize it was just a job for them.
They were doing their job.
But they had these three bodies too with these eight different colors and they were reacting to the emotions and all of this.
It was only until they started moving me toward the amlets that I decided to look at me.
And I looked down at my hand, my right hand, and spread my right hand out to look at it.
And as I looked at it, it was energy.
It was color.
It had form to it.
When I relaxed my thoughts, that hand would move from a hand as we would look at our hand, like if you put a piece of beautiful silk, dyed, beautiful colored silk over your hand.
It went from a hand to where it blended into this blue-gray place.
I never lost consciousness, but I became like a mystical rainbow as opposed to a dense light body.
And I took a look at that because I was kind of peeved because I didn't have a body as beautiful as they all had.
Well, you know, that's that part that's irritating to you.
And so as I looked at that, I was pissed off.
I mean, I was angry about it, and I'm trying to get a grip on all of this, and it's all brand new to me.
But there was a safety factor, Art, a place of comfort and safety.
Through all of that, I knew this place.
We all know this place.
This is the way we leave this world.
I mean, after three of these now, but right now, this is how we leave this world.
This is the structure.
And these are how the bodies are, because I'm now two more since that one over the next 25 years.
art bell
I know, but right now.
Dan, was there, sorry to interrupt, a consciousness that, in other words, at that moment that you looked at your hand, your erthral hand or whatever it was, and you actually did see it, but it sort of blended in.
I want to try to understand whether you had good conscious cognitive thoughts or whether it was still sort of all, oh, I don't know.
dannion brinkley
It was a little confusing, Art.
Don't, in those early minutes, don't let anybody, you know, even the great Wonder Wizard Danion, you know, it was some confusing stuff.
So, you know, you're trying to get a grip on it.
And I'm reality-based, Art.
You know, I'm not light.
You know, this stuff was real, and I'm trying to grip it.
You're talking about an hour and you're talking about 28 minutes of an existence, but over a course of like months, having to lie in that bed and wet my pants and not be able to walk to have to think about this stuff.
When I came back, Art, I mean, I'm going to run ahead, but when I came back, think about still 1975, still Aiken, South Carolina, still Raymond's book's not out, still never heard of it, but the most real thing that's ever happened to me all the way up to from combat, the most real thing that had ever happened to me in my life was this event.
So I'm trying to get a grip on it, but as the moments passed, an awareness, and I would say after a few moments, I don't know the time frame because the place that you're floating in, Art, and the world that's below you, the time-space differentium shifts and changes to a whole nother dimension.
What may have taken minutes from the perspective or seconds from the perspective from the physical that body to the place where I was could have been, it could have been nanoseconds or it could have been months, depending on what I looked at.
art bell
When you think back on that time, do you think it was months compared to the physical reality going on below you?
dannion brinkley
What I could see, comprehend, and understand.
I could understand what in that physical life.
It would have taken me three years to figure out what I knew in only minutes about the life of the physical world that we now live in.
And over the next 28 minutes, I could comprehend centuries.
You know, I could comprehend and understand things and how they developed.
And once the boxes of knowledge came into play, you know.
art bell
Okay, then I want to understand as much as I can about that 28 minutes.
And obviously, you became more aware and aware and aware as more time went on, which I guess indicates that when you talk to people about NDEs who have just had very short NDEs, maybe they don't collect near the depth of knowledge that somebody who was away as long as you were.
dannion brinkley
Right.
I mean, you know, it's become what made Daniel the legend is I have a good memory, and I was trying to figure out what the hang this was and how to survive it.
You know, how to survive it, even on the other side, Art.
It was, you know, it was always to come back and build centers.
You know, this has always been the mission, why I keep coming back.
You know, it goes, it's not just an event where I come back and I'm lost and I don't know what I'm supposed to do and all that.
But it's always been to understand these things.
art bell
Well, take me from this blue-gray sort of foggy place and looking at your hand.
I mean, then why?
dannion brinkley
It's not foggy.
Now, it's clear.
I'm a part of something, and it's a part of me, and it's quite obvious to me that this is the realm that is me.
Now, watch how funny this is in words and English.
This is a place that is me, and yet I am still separate, and I still have my identity, and I'm still Daniel Brinkley.
I'm thinking like Daniel Brinkley, but by the time that the paramedics start loading me in the ambulance, I am 10,000 times more aware as Daniel Brinkley's consciousness than I ever was any day I've ever lived, even even greater than I have lived now and that I've been through them.
Because when I come back here, most of the stuff you cannot fit it into a conscious understanding.
But over there, I could think, I could study the writing in the, because when they loaded me in the ambulance, I'm studying the guy who's working on me, pumping me, sticking needles all in me, talking on his headset.
I'm looking at the shelves of all the medicines and the drawers and the labels of the drawers.
I'm listening to his thoughts.
I'm listening to the driver's thoughts.
I can see and conceive of what's going on because it was raining by then.
And I could see how light and raindrops, when the water, when the light would pass through the raindrops.
And I was in this myriad of places.
But I could hear everything.
I could see what people were doing.
art bell
That's a lot of awareness.
And even cars that you shouldn't have been able to see.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, got by me.
art bell
So you stayed with your body.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I stayed with my body all the way till it had to be, I don't know how long.
But I can remember him saying, he's gone.
He's gone.
And, you know, it caught my mind.
It made me stop because, you know, from the place I look at it now, the stiff was there.
The guy that was working on me was there.
And I was there.
And I couldn't figure out who had gone where.
The three of us were still here.
So this is where my mind, then I hear these chimes.
I hear these tones, these frequencies, or this tone elevation.
And it was like a series of chimes.
And then this darkness, it begins to form.
It wasn't blue-gray anymore.
It's like gold dust or silver dust spread in something like as the light turns, it sparkles.
Or like in the discos, we used to have that light at the top where it'd color all the room and the light would shine on it.
art bell
Yeah, and this was right after they said he's gone.
And I take it at that point, you weren't seeing yourself or your consciousness of the ambulance and everything you talked about and cars near it and all the rest of it.
That faded, that was gone?
dannion brinkley
That was gone.
art bell
Gone, all right.
dannion brinkley
Then I'm in a darker place, but it was moving whether I was moving or not.
It had a rotation about it.
And it was moving whether I was moving or not.
And when you can take a deep breath, you know, a lot of times when you go, that feeling of letting that breath out and total tranquility and total calm, and I still didn't understand half the stuff that was going on, but total calm and tranquility.
And I moved down this tunnel.
And as I moved down this tunnel, and it's hard to put into words, but like an onion peeling away each layer.
art bell
But a tunnel couldn't be black.
A color, there would have to be a perceived color to see a form of a tunnel, right?
dannion brinkley
Well, I perceived it as dark.
I mean, I didn't look at the color.
I was paying attention to the color.
art bell
Was it dark all around and then the tunnel was darker?
Is it dark on?
dannion brinkley
It wasn't dark.
It was blue-gray.
It had a beautiful hue to it, the place that I was.
It had a beautiful, the first place, lifted out of my body, and in that time frame, which, you know, we're like 50 or 60 minutes.
art bell
Right, but the tunnel itself was darker?
dannion brinkley
It was darker.
It completely enveloped me, and I, for the first time, felt an energy pulling me.
You know, in the place that I was floating, there was no breeze or anything.
It was like I existed within this framework.
I was a part of it.
And it was like being more buoyant than floating on water, but like floating in the air, like just skydiving and just floating.
And then this tunnel enveloped me, and there was a force that was moving, and like how a tide does in the ocean.
You know, you get pulled along by the tide.
It began to pull me.
And as it began to pull me, it pulled me down this tunnel.
And it didn't matter where I wanted to go or not.
I was now a part of this process of going down this tunnel.
But I was comfortable with it.
I was not...
art bell
It's pretty interesting because, you know, based on a lot of people's beliefs, if they were, you know, they had perceived that they might be dead and they were getting pulled down a dark tunnel, they might not think that they were necessarily headed in the right direction, but obviously you were calm and comfortable with what was happening to you.
Listen, we're at the top of the hour here already, so hold on, Dan.
dannion brinkley
I'm here.
art bell
It's a good place to pick up.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
Good morning, Mr. Sunshine.
You brighten up my day.
Don't sit beside me in your way.
I'll see you every morning outside the rest of our way.
We're here to take place I'm too far Explanations Is the value that you gain In the air of the gun
She doesn't give you time For questions As she looks up your eyes And you follow to yourself Of which direction Completely disappears By the blue-tiled walls Near the market stalls There's a hidden door She leads you to These days She says I feel my life Just like a red
for running through The air out the camera castle.
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art bell
You know, not very many people come back, and I mean, physical life after being gone for as long as 28 minutes.
That's what Daniel Brinkley said.
Somebody passed blasts to me.
Hey, Mark, where can I get what he's smoking?
Well, you, sir, are a fool.
Everything that happened to Daniel, certainly in the physical, is extremely well documented.
And so you, sir, don't know what you're talking about.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
I really think most people are very curious about what happens to them when they die.
The man you're listening to tonight has a really good clue for you.
I suggest you keep listening.
unidentified
I suggest you keep listening.
art bell
Once again, here's Danien Brinkley.
Dan, all right.
You're at the stage where you're being pulled into or pushed into or guided into.
dannion brinkley
No, being pulled into.
art bell
Pulled into a dark tunnel.
dannion brinkley
The guy who, what was he, super blasted you or called you about he wanted some of what I was smoking?
art bell
Yeah, don't worry about him.
They're all, I wouldn't.
You know, I just pulled that out, Dan.
dannion brinkley
I want him to know that I think just like him.
art bell
Well, look, most of the comments are absolutely positive.
I pull out the negative ones on purpose.
dannion brinkley
I wanted to compliment on him because he helps me remind me of myself.
art bell
You ought to keep listening because one day, you know, he's going to die.
Anyway, point is, you were being pulled into this.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, you come and you, you know, remember, and I've done this three times now.
You don't let people know that, but I've done this three times.
art bell
We'll let people know about it.
dannion brinkley
And as I came down this tunnel, it was like peeling away Daniel's, the personality that was Daniel Brinkley.
And I don't know how to say that, but that there was a greater me moving down this tunnel each, the more I moved down it.
And then when I saw the light at the tunnel, that sense of true safety, the thing that we always say, and like when people say I could see the light at the tunnel and you think it came from trains.
Well, I understand that many a way and many a night people have told this story and that's where that came from.
But when I saw the light and I got to the end of the tunnel, it was as though I was arriving home and I had never seen this place.
But I was home.
And I was less Daniel Brinkley.
I did not think using his methods.
I knew Daniel Brinkley really, really well, because he had to be efficient.
art bell
Then how do you describe yourself at that point?
dannion brinkley
Well, I describe myself.
What do you mean?
art bell
Exactly what I said.
If you were less the Daniel Brinkley.
dannion brinkley
I was more something else.
I was more who I really am.
See, when you're here on this side, you have developed a personality and a social structure and identity of yourself within that social structure.
art bell
Some of us have.
dannion brinkley
Everybody has.
And they will operate within that as the refinement of their identity, the self, like that's what they'll do.
But when you start down the tunnel, that stuff goes away.
That's really not who you are.
I mean, it's really not who you are.
art bell
No, I'm with you.
dannion brinkley
And as I came into this tunnel, I was more aware, you know, because I'm thinking, I'm trying to understand this.
My nosy self is more interested than just going along with it.
art bell
I have to go out.
That's important to me.
So there's something of you left.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, that identity of Daniel Brinkley was the most skeptical, cynical, still.
He existed no matter what he had been through so far.
And when he got to the end of this tunnel, he still had that identity.
He could hold on to it.
But I really wasn't that anymore.
unidentified
I wasn't.
art bell
Yeah, no, I understand.
dannion brinkley
And so I enter this place and I'm looking around and I'm feeling all kinds of different things.
People have always tried to, you know, I've looked for years, Art, to find a word to describe what over there is like.
And the best English word is sensual.
It's hard when you say it, when you go to looking at the context everybody applies to that word when you look it up in an unabridged dictionary.
It's the best definition that I know of.
I was sensations, and it was a control sensation and a wonderment, and so Euphoric?
art bell
How far?
dannion brinkley
How far?
Euphoria.
art bell
Past euphoric.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, ecstasy.
And, you know, a sustained ecstasy, you know, not something out of context to everybody.
I'm not a word.
art bell
Nothing around you but white light.
dannion brinkley
The light had hue to it.
It would be silvery.
It had almost a sky-blue view to it, but it was white.
But it was like sky-blue, a cloudless sky.
But the part of it was it was living.
It wasn't inanimate.
It was like a fog or a mist.
But you knew it was living, and it was a form of yourself.
I knew that all that I saw, I was it, and it was me.
And this is when I began to come, when I would say, come into a place of acceptance of whatever this was.
And until that time, there was a part of me that was fighting this.
But it was still comfortable, it was still safe, and it was still one to money.
And it was Fighting me, but it was still doing that.
When this being appeared, as though it molded itself.
art bell
All right, now let me stop you right there.
Brian asks, Art, I beg you, I really do.
Please, if Daniel can, please have him describe the physical appearance of the beings that he saw, including the ones that presented the boxes.
But this first encounter, Daniel, what did this look like?
dannion brinkley
It molded itself out of the mist.
I mean, out of that area.
It took shape.
And then the feeling that I felt was a place like judgment, but it wasn't, and I always say this, you know, if your dad caught you doing something when you're seven or eight years old.
art bell
I remember that.
dannion brinkley
You're going to take a whipping for it.
But if granddaddy caught you or grandmother caught you, you're still going to have to answer for it, but it's the guilt you would possess because it was grandmother you did it to or grandmother who caught you.
You know, it's embarrassing, or granddad.
You know, you can work your way out of it, but it's still embarrassing.
All right, now this was the place that I, this is me as honest as I know how to be.
This was the place where I felt.
And as this being came closer to me, I have, after 25 years, I have heard every description of this being.
And after seeing this being three times in the last 25 years, everybody says Buddha, Krishna, God, this being is moving, living energy as though you could look at love.
You could take love as we feel it in our hearts and our minds for something.
art bell
But we can't picture love.
I mean, we understand the emotion love, but we can't visualize love as a concept that forms itself out of whatever background you were in.
Is there any way to describe it in physical terms?
unidentified
Yeah.
dannion brinkley
When you see your baby walk for the first step.
art bell
That's an emotion.
dannion brinkley
Well, but still it's a description.
It's a way that a person can feel, because it is an emotion, or the day that your parents are your peers are the most proud of you.
art bell
Okay, well, all of that is like maybe the grandest moments of life.
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
art bell
Okay.
dannion brinkley
Well, it's just like that.
art bell
But still, there was a presence there that had some kind of physical form.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, it molded itself.
It looked like a hologram made of color.
It looked like a body of a being.
art bell
Of a being, a human being.
dannion brinkley
No, no, no.
art bell
Not human-like then.
dannion brinkley
No, no.
It was human-like.
It was like I was at that point.
I was still there was the human life, but there is no physical form that we look at on Earth unless we look at a hologram and a Tesla coil reacting and we put a little psychedelic black-like color in there.
We might have an idea.
I'm pretty sure that the guy, Luke Skywalker, that guy up at Skywalker Ranch, George Lucas, could figure out how, if I could sit down with him, I could figure out how to describe that being.
Where dreams may come from with Robin Williams gives a pretty good way, just thin it.
art bell
No, you finally did it.
I think I've got it.
Okay.
dannion brinkley
But what I realize now is who that being is.
People call it God and Krishna and Jehovah and Jesus.
And, you know, everybody that's had one of these experiences has a name for this being.
art bell
And what's yours?
dannion brinkley
I believe it's me.
I believe that that part of me, I believe that there's a part of us that never leaves over there.
It never makes the journey here.
And I believe that because in the course of three of these things, we are spiritual beings.
art bell
You mean like your soul's root?
dannion brinkley
A place where you really are.
I always try to put it in this.
If you had a job every day and you were a soldier or a bank teller or something that you followed the routine, in the course of that day, that was your job description.
You were out being that.
art bell
Yeah, I've got you.
dannion brinkley
But you always were something else.
You know, you were worried about where you were going on the weekend or the things that you might want to do.
You are not really totally all over here.
You're just not.
This is amazing to me, and I've checked this out two more times.
And it's the fact that we exist over there.
We do, and we send a part of us through some system that lives and functions here.
That's it.
art bell
Okay, no, I can buy that.
dannion brinkley
And so as I watched it, and I'm looking at it, another one of those freedoms, and as this being gave me a sense of that I was not alone, that I personally, as Daniel Brinkley, was not alone, just as I am as a person.
I was not alone.
And then I began to feel every feeling that I had ever felt.
I mean, every emotion, every feeling, and little things.
And then it would build itself into a psychology or a pattern of my behavior.
Then all of a sudden, I had a 360-degree panoramic life review.
Holographic from the day I was born to the day I died.
I did not know I was dead and had never put that into play through all this experience until I saw the lightning strike, which was the last part of the panoramic life review.
art bell
So you went all the way through your whole life.
I remember you telling me that, and you just said it again, that you felt everything, every emotion that you imprinted on others came back and you felt it 360 degrees.
dannion brinkley
I watched it.
I watched it from a second place personality, like we two as friends look at each other, and I can't make you do anything, like you can't make me do anything, but I as a friend can stick by love and support just like we do each other.
You watch it from that second person point of view, and then you literally at the same time become every person, every person that you've ever encountered, and you will feel the direct results of those interactions.
art bell
That's pretty brutal.
dannion brinkley
Well, it depends on how you look at it, but I didn't go to hell.
There's no one listening to this radio show that's going to hell.
But I had to look at it brutally.
But art, no matter what, the near-death experience brings back from that side of the world a living system that can be used on this side of the world to prove it or not prove it, or yet to accomplish how to achieve what you want in your life because the system was there and in place.
We have to get past being afraid because you'd be amazed at how much good you've done.
People have to be amazed.
You choose to come here and you're chosen to come here.
And you will not fail what you were chosen to come here.
art bell
Well, I hope.
Look, I...
Yeah, I know, Dan, that I've done some good, but I'm real worried about the bad I've done.
dannion brinkley
Well, don't worry about as much as the good you've done.
Because a person, you know, we've taught religiously, institutionally, and governmentally that we're nothing, that we are born in sin, and we've all got to be coming saved, and we all are worthless, and we have to give everything to the government and give up all our rights because, you know, it's like Cullenbine.
And what's going on in the world?
We just keep giving up all our rights.
art bell
Well, but I mean, here you experienced everything that you dished out.
On the other side of that panoramic life review.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I had it coming too, Art.
art bell
What were you?
dannion brinkley
I mean, I had to feel all the misery.
I had to feel all the misery.
art bell
I understand that.
What I'm asking is, yeah, once it was all done, Dan, and you were still there.
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
I had a chance to forgive.
art bell
How did that change you?
dannion brinkley
What it does is right after you've experienced all that, and it has a way, I always say that the viewpoint is if God couldn't come today and God had sent me, in the life I just reviewed, what difference did God make?
How much good I had done was more important than being measured for the things that I had done, but yet I still had to deal with it.
It didn't matter if there was a part of you that will, even as horrible a person as I am, everybody, and I'm just as big a jerk in the world, but everybody out there, there is a way that by doing what you were sent here to do, which is, I mean, it's the panoramic life review, which I talk about over and over, you know, I'm like a broken record everywhere we are.
I always construct panoramic life reviews and stuff.
But right there is where you know the difference because there is a job that you were sent here to do, and then there was a job you came to help grow yourself.
It's twofold.
And the panoramic life review shows you those two different places and the job you've come to do.
The only redeeming value I had after that first panoramic life review, Art, was the simple fact that there had been good things that I had done, and I could only focus on that small amount of stuff, equal to all the crap that I had created and so intentionally and so viciously created.
I still had to deal with it.
art bell
All right.
Then what?
dannion brinkley
Then I had a chance to forgive myself.
And that's where I blew it, Art.
You have a chance at that moment to look through because you had seen truly what you had come to serve or like what your mission that God sends you on or ever how people want to interpret that.
But what you came was sent to do, what you chose, you choose to come and have chosen to come, but what you chose to come and do had a value equal to what you chose to come and do.
And because I turned into such a worthless jerk, I had missed my opportunity.
But somewhere in it, I'd accomplished a great deal of what I was sent here to do.
art bell
So you didn't forgive yourself after the review?
dannion brinkley
I couldn't do it.
Great God, Art.
art bell
All right, fine.
dannion brinkley
That's where I messed up.
So everybody, after you have the panoramic life review, no matter what you think, after you have the panoramic life review, and when you get to that point where you get a chance to forgive yourself, you better do it.
Because it took me two more times to get there, Art.
I had to do it two more times, and that's where I messed up the most.
art bell
All right, but you didn't.
So then what happened?
dannion brinkley
Well, I began to ascend.
I began to, the being was still with me, and I began to vibrate.
And at that moment, there wasn't another Daniel Brinkley.
I don't have a cognizant remember of me measuring the things around me in my personality from the time that that being, as though we were soaring, as though we were moving over like mountain ranges of the Andes or Sacramento Mountains or the Sierra Ladre, you know, those beautiful, beautiful mountain peaks and moving across them.
And I could see what I call crystal cities.
I have no other term for that.
But they were cities that built of light.
And as I got to enter, the one that was supposed to be mine, you know, like in my father's house there are many mansions.
Well, that's true.
Absolutely.
I can tell everybody that when Jesus said that, he was telling you straight up.
art bell
So in the crystal city, there was a crystal structure for you.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, it was a place where I had come from.
It either I belonged there or it, you know, the Bible says they prepared it for me.
But I believe that I belonged there before I'd ever come to life.
art bell
So this being brought you there?
dannion brinkley
I mean, it could not enter.
The being moved away from my view or feelings or nature, and I moved through three sets of flames.
They were like what appeared to be energy levels, a violet one and a white one, and this golden-colored one.
art bell
Flames.
dannion brinkley
Well, it was like going through a hoop of flames.
Flames, that's great, Art.
Great.
art bell
Dan, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
A crystal city.
Hoops of flames.
That's where we are, and that's where we'll pick it up.
I've got Danion Brinkley on the line.
It's been a long time, and he's in rare form, so stay right where you are.
You'll hear details tonight I think you've never heard before.
unidentified
If you could read my mind, love what a tale my thoughts could tell.
Just like an old-time movie, about a ghost from a wish is well.
In a castle dark or a fortress strong, with chains upon my feet, you know that ghost is here.
I will never be fair free.
Long as I'm a ghost, you can't be.
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art bell
Good morning.
Danien Brinkley is here, and we're right at the, literally at the doors of the Crystal City.
Being with him wouldn't progress, wouldn't go on.
It was obvious he was supposed to, and I presume did.
That's where we're going.
Tara in Oregon, it's a nice name, Tara, writes, there is only forgiveness in the end.
Forgiveness of the self is key to understanding this event.
The two selves are real but meshed within the space that belongs everywhere.
I thought that sounded about right, Dan?
dannion brinkley
I think it does.
art bell
Where did that come from?
That came from a gal named Kara up in Oregon.
I've got a computer in front of me, and I can read these messages that are coming in as well.
dannion brinkley
I've been there, Art.
art bell
Dan.
dannion brinkley
Can I ask you a question, Art?
art bell
After I ask you one.
If you had forgiven yourself, if you hadn't made what you called your mistake, and you had forgiven yourself, what do you think would have happened?
dannion brinkley
I could have probably stayed.
I could have probably stayed over there.
art bell
All right, you want to ask me a question?
Go ahead.
dannion brinkley
How do you get me to tell my ultimate soul perspectives about my near-death experience when no one can get that off of me?
art bell
I don't know, because I'm a control freak.
dannion brinkley
No, how do you do it?
I just wanted to say that.
It's amazing how you do this.
art bell
Because you've never really told this the way you're telling it now.
dannion brinkley
No, never.
art bell
All right, so here we are at this.
You're part of the crystal city, and this being is not going in with you.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I'm expanding, Art.
The Daniel is not anymore.
I'm different.
I'm like lost.
I don't really know who I am, but I am so comfortable, and I feel so safe because my job had been done and what I had to go through to get to this next phase of growing and expanding and this being staying with me.
I believe that the being merged with me, Art.
I can never get this to be true, to know this.
But it disappeared because of taking a deep breath.
And when I took the breath, the entrance lit up as though it was the energy was colors.
You know, it was red, and I mean, the color of it, the violet, then a hue of red.
Okay.
Okay.
And they were moving.
The structure existed.
Everything you can see through it and watch it, and it's built of light, like bricks, and it has all the things that you would normally want to relate to to understand it by, but it really wasn't the most important part of the place.
And when I moved into it, this is when I looked at myself again.
I looked at my right hand again.
I'm left-handed, but I looked at my right hand again.
And I had a deeper crystal structure.
I sparkled.
I had a different kind of more energetic than the original time I looked at my hand when I was floating above the body.
art bell
Maybe that's why you think you joined with that other self.
dannion brinkley
Well, it might be why.
art bell
Anyway, the point is...
dannion brinkley
Because I've been in the cathedrals of Europe, and I have since seen that that's what it was like.
I'd never been in the cathedral of Europe before the near-death experience.
art bell
It starts to sound a little religious here at the cathedral.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, but when I've been to, I did a tour of Europe, and I went into all the cathedrals of Europe.
art bell
I've been in many of them.
I mean, when you go into them, you feel I don't care who you are.
That's right.
Okay, Cathedral, huh?
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I mean, they will make you in awe of the human consciousness, and they built them and designed them in sacred art and forms that came from over there.
I've seen the original model now, Art, of where those cathedrals came from.
The original model's over there in the spirit world, and it's where you come from, and it's a place that you're a part of that you go to after you have this near-death experience or this death and the panoramic life of you.
You go to this place, and it's where you reunite with your grouping.
You know, we come from different levels and different places, and some of us are more advanced than others, and some of us, like me, are lesser advanced.
Then we have medium-range people, and teams come.
I mean, this is what I believe, because I've watched it through three, and I've been, you know, I've been talking about it.
art bell
All right, so then what came to you then?
dannion brinkley
Then these 12 beings appeared.
And I always have to start out by saying they are like colors.
They were like honor and greatness and everything that you would think of if you could see a being.
And they were spaced apart, and they were animated, but they were beings that were different from the being that was with me.
art bell
With or without specific form.
dannion brinkley
They had form.
They had an outline and a form.
art bell
As in humanoid, as in obviously not humanoid, the energy.
dannion brinkley
Beauty.
You know, like watching a Christmas tree.
A Christmas tree that can talk to you.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Okay, that helps.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, a chandelier, a beautiful chandelier.
art bell
That could talk to you.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I have one in Palmyra, a beautiful chandelier.
art bell
So these were obviously 12 separate beings.
dannion brinkley
Separate and so magnificent.
I can remember the place of being humbled, Art.
The humbling awe of these beings as it moved across me.
I can remember that.
This is distinct.
These are the little moments that I hold on to.
art bell
Now, remember, folks, this is where you go when you make the wrong choice.
dannion brinkley
Watch yourself.
art bell
I mean, you told me yourself, wrong choice.
Anyway, so here you go.
dannion brinkley
No, not forgiving myself was the wrong choice.
art bell
Yeah, I know, but after you didn't forgive yourself, this is where you're going.
dannion brinkley
This is the wrong choice.
This is what will bring you back.
art bell
All right.
dannion brinkley
So when these beings appeared, each one of them had their own radiance, and then there was a 13th being.
And when this being was slightly up and to the right of the other twelve, and it was as if this being was in control of what was going on.
And it would send a feeling or an expression to one of the others.
And then that being, the individual one, would literally fill the cathedral.
All you could see was it pulsating.
The form stayed the same.
But its energy came and blocked out every other one.
I could not see the other beings.
All I could see was this one.
And it didn't go from left to right.
It was random.
But each, that being would focus on me and a form of energy, and I could only call it a box.
And I got that description from trying to find a word that let people understand what it was that happened, although it really didn't happen like that.
But this inner, this thing, this box came at me, and it would open.
And when it would open, I would see, like watching a television art, but more like what we would call, what do you call it, virtual reality.
I was a part of it, and it was a part of me, but it was like being in the physical world again.
I could smell smells, and I was physically aware of things.
art bell
And what were you seeing?
What were these boxes showing?
dannion brinkley
They were just, you know, the 12 boxes of knowledge.
What I now know was a future event, you know, what future events that would occur, but it wasn't the most important part of the event, although that's why I'm doing Daniel.com so I can publish these 500 pages of this.
art bell
But you were shown the future, weren't you?
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
art bell
And this is important because Daniel chronicled all this, you see, in his book, Saved by the Light, right?
dannion brinkley
Yeah, been talking about it for 25 years.
art bell
Yeah, my point is that a lot of the predictions, which we won't go through now, I mean, very specific things that you knew were going to happen or you were shown would happen.
dannion brinkley
Well, I didn't know they were going to happen, but I was shown that they were happening.
art bell
Yeah, I guess at the time you watched it, you couldn't know that you were seeing things that were going to happen.
dannion brinkley
I didn't know it until five years later when Raymond called me on the phone.
art bell
Raymond Moody.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, Raymond called me up, and the same scenario that I had described to him four or five years before that was on television, and he was telling me about it.
That's when all this started.
I didn't start this art.
You know, I was still just working with it, coming building centers like they told me to do it.
art bell
Anyway, there was a whole lot.
dannion brinkley
I didn't tell them.
art bell
Yeah, there was a whole lot of information that was imparted to you.
Can you give a couple of examples of that information that things that you saw?
dannion brinkley
Well, you can go to like what's happening in Israel today.
art bell
Yes.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I mean, what's happening right now in Israel, and it's in Save by the Light.
It describes everything.
Remember, Save by the Light was written in 1992.
So if I had made it up in 1992, it would still be the most wondrous stuff in the world about the peace accords, the Oslo Peace Accord and then the Wai River Peace Accord.
I talk about two peace accords that would be signed.
What would be happening in Israel right now, the Palestinian issue, that now they will come and there'll be a, after this big deal over Jerusalem, that there would be a place where it would come that as this Jerusalem issue is to be settled, what will happen?
And it's about a police force that'll come.
And see what people can look at right now is buy that book and look at box 4 and 5.
And remember, I've been saying this for 25 years, and I say the timeframes and the places when it'll be.
And the accuracy of it is that they know where we are over there.
After 12 of these boxes and watching them, I've always thought to me personally, Art, it was me being trapped.
I predicted Chernobyl.
art bell
I predicted for all of those that are sitting out there saying, oh, come on, it's in the book.
Sorry.
Go ahead, Dan.
dannion brinkley
next 25 years of it.
art bell
Chernobyl and...
dannion brinkley
And I have like 500 or 600 pages of newspapers, these computers that read every newspaper in the world, and they cross-reference the predictions.
And so for people, just stay come on your thing, Art, and go to Daniel.com.
art bell
How many predictions, roughly?
dannion brinkley
117.
There were about 321, but 117 major things.
You know what, Art?
I had to remember these things and how I could structure and see it.
I said that I saw the Syrians and the Chinese building rockets of biological waste and technology and biological warfare and technology.
And, you know, that sounds pretty weird.
But in 1993, in the Golan Heights, where they were manufacturing an airplane for the Chinese, an agreement was signed between the Chinese and the Israelis, but the factory was near the Golan Heights.
So I may have missed it because I said it was Syrians in 1993 because it was the Golan Heights.
And I don't even count those art.
I don't count those.
I just count the ones, and if it's cross-referenced, there's about an 84-85% accuracy without me rationalizing anything.
And I'm going to publish them and create a whole website about that because I need to get that out.
But that's not the most important.
The most important was that these were things that were guidelines that would tell me where I was in the course of what I didn't realize they were going to dump off on me to come back and to take the first two near-death experiences were really about the centers.
You know, they weren't really interested in Danny and Brinkley.
They were interested in...
art bell
And that's obviously, yeah, but sure, 2020 vision from here, with your story, obviously you were going back, and they were preparing you and giving you information for a reason.
dannion brinkley
Exactly.
art bell
And that reason wasn't to go on up.
It was to come back to what you were viewing or had viewed.
dannion brinkley
And to know the timeframe when things would unfold, either to give me confidence and security, because it just happened to me, Art.
I didn't have to ever tell anybody.
You know how many people had this same experience that's out there that just can't tell it because how crazy everybody will think they are?
Well, I don't mind people thinking I'm crazy.
I've been through this three times, and I've watched it, and I've watched three near-death experiences, three panoramic life reviews, and I've also watched me grow.
You know, like us, you know, the relationship.
I'm growing too because I reach out to try to understand this stuff like everybody else out there.
And if we don't understand death, we can't help our moms and dads and friends.
So we've got to understand it.
art bell
All right.
Let us finish up.
You had this knowledge imparted.
Were you then instantly back in your body?
dannion brinkley
All of a sudden, Art, I'm back in a hallway.
I've never seen the hallway before, and I'm floating above this body.
You know, I'm really looking for the body.
I mean, I know it's in there somewhere.
art bell
You're having to look for your own body?
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
I had to find it.
Once they gave me the mission to come back and build the centers, once they finished with the 12 boxes of knowledge and this being of light, the beings of light, the central being of light gave me a mission.
You know, I wrote it the best I know how, but what it was was to create a system that would bridge from this world back to that world.
I mean, that's what this whole story is about.
art bell
And that's what all of that was for.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, it was to get back and to build these centers in a certain timeframe, a certain way.
And I lay it out in the book.
You know what, Art?
I'm here 25 years, and I write in these books what I'm doing, and it's taken me four years to make this third book, light book, the end of the trilogy, because it's a real happening event, really happening to somebody who this really happened to, and how to bring forth through the Toon First 2 what they told me to come and put here.
I mean, that's what it's all about.
And the next thing I know, I never thought I was going back, Art.
See, I had this.
art bell
Yeah, I can imagine that.
I mean, why would you think you were going back?
dannion brinkley
And I was so happy.
You know, I've always, you know why I react to stuff now.
I've always resented having to come back.
It was until the third near-death experience when all that prayer stuff you created.
art bell
Okay, you were floating.
We'll get to that.
You were floating down the hall looking for your body.
You obviously found it.
dannion brinkley
And trying to have to figure out how to get back into things.
I mean, listen to where I was now.
I was back Danion's personality.
I went from roaming the universe back to the Daniel personality.
Okay, and it's depressing.
unidentified
Trust me.
dannion brinkley
To come back to be me again, Art.
unidentified
Yeah.
dannion brinkley
That's the most depressing thing that I go through every day as I left there to come back to be this again because I didn't forgive myself.
Well, I've almost gotten over that, Art.
So I'm floating looking for me.
I know I have to find my body.
I have to get back in it.
I have to make it work and I have to get up and do these centers, this eight-step program.
Same story I've been saying.
My daddy, it's like a broken record.
Listen to my dad, listen to me tell it.
art bell
All right, so you found your body.
dannion brinkley
And then I could feel all the anguish.
art bell
And you what?
Was that the first physical, conscious...
dannion brinkley
It was in a darkened room.
I began to feel the feelings of my mom and my dad, Sandy, my brother, the people who had gathered, because, you know, I was going to die.
Nobody had taken that much electricity.
They didn't know what to do.
I was paralyzed.
I was in more pain.
I mean, I went on like this for days, Art.
It wasn't, you know, just 28 minutes.
art bell
Yeah, I hear you.
So back in the body.
dannion brinkley
Once you're back in that body.
But what I could feel was everybody feeling me, the loss of me.
art bell
Yes.
dannion brinkley
People feeling the loss of me, Tommy and mom and daddy and all the friends and the people who had heard about it and their feeling of loss.
And it began to thicken me.
It took the, like being constricted.
And then I'm back in that body and I'm not breathing.
But I'm in it.
And I can feel that it's cold or, you know, it's not, it's not rigid, but it's something that I don't want to be bothered with trying to make moves.
I didn't want to.
And then a breath came into my lungs like that.
And I'm back and I'm on fire and I'm burning and I hurt so bad.
And the next couple, two or three days, all I could do was hold on.
That's all I could do.
art bell
And from that point until you were, I don't know, at least ambulatory, was how long?
dannion brinkley
Oh, I couldn't move.
I was paralyzed six days, and it took seven months before I could really you know, I'd fall against the wall or pass out in the yard.
The biggest moments I had some days are was to get to the bathroom, man.
If I could make it to the bathroom and not black out and knock a hole in my head or wet my pants, and those 15 steps to that bathroom, I thought that was monumental.
And I couldn't, then I could begin to think the near-death experience, but for those first 15, 20 days, man, I don't, you can't.
And sometimes I didn't know where I was, and I would drift into worlds that I'm not sure.
Some of them had to be hallucinatory, but some of them were real.
And I've worked on those for years.
That's the stuff that bothers me about it.
You don't just stop there.
You know, here I go after that.
I'm back.
art bell
I start.
dannion brinkley
I become a hospice volunteer.
And I go to building these damn centers.
I mean, I go to start.
art bell
You're doing what you were instructed to do.
dannion brinkley
Exactly.
art bell
Hold on.
Hold on, Dan.
We're at the top of the hour.
Well, there you are.
Maybe we do it all again and again.
I don't know.
Dan sure seems to be.
Daniel Brinkley is my guest.
I'm Art Bell.
Don't touch that, Donald.
unidentified
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art bell
Daniel Brinkley has had three either death or near-death experiences.
I was with him for the third.
I got a call from Georgia, and we'll tell you all about it.
They said that Daniel's dying and was going to die.
The doctor said he was going to die.
Daniel himself talked to me and said, well, I guess you better come see me because I think this is it.
And I did.
I went to see him, South Carolina.
That's a whole story into itself, which we won't tell in detail, but believe it, I saw it, and I've seen a lot more I know about Daniel Brinkley.
Let me tell you a couple of things I know about Daniel Brinkley.
All right.
In the years that I've known Dan, and that's quite a few now, all he's been doing is hospice work.
In other words, Dan has been spending all his time with people who are dying.
That's what he's done.
Ever since I've known him, I guess there may have been an interim period.
I don't know.
We'll find out in a minute.
But that's what he's done.
He's spent all his time with the dying.
He goes to veterans who are dying.
He goes to people who are dying from all walks of life, particularly veterans.
But that's what he's done with all of his time.
He's ignored a lot of worldly things like the IRS.
Right, Dan?
dannion brinkley
Yeah, they even finally got an answering machine, Art.
unidentified
You know?
dannion brinkley
But it was a means to an end, Art.
Remember, when you had three of them, Raymond came along and blew the open heart surgery, when I had to have open heart surgery because he got me to come back.
Then you came along during the third one and created this prayer stuff, which you knew, I know innately you and Ramona had to have known that what happened in the nature of that prayer in the third near-death experience would be something that would make me come back no matter what because it was just too cool.
art bell
Well, I just know it really happened.
Rhonda in Texas asks this.
Apparently there was something about a bed.
You were told to create centers, but something also about the bed.
Now, Edgar Casey also had a very similar vision involving a bed.
dannion brinkley
Well, what Casey had a, what we were looking at is the bed is a part of an eight-step program.
It's a part of an eight-step program that when I went through the second near-death experience, I had the panoramic life review, went through the tunnel, had the panoramic life review.
I had done better because being a hospice volunteer, I could go, two things could happen.
I could go and be at the bedside of people I knew I could help because I had found a new value of myself from the panoramic life review.
And I could make the Most difference and accomplish the most for the reason I lived at the bedside.
But it was also to be able to study and learn and know how to make the centers the best thing that I could do.
Watching the visions, but you know, it's just been a one-trick pony, and I want to get this job done.
So being at the bedside and watching this, I knew from the second near-death experience how I'd improved myself.
I never thought I'd have a third one, Art, but how it improved to refine the centers by looking at in the boxes of knowledge the advancements in medicine.
Well, you obviously had a mission and but a lot of help because like photon medicine and auric energy, bioplasmic energy studies and stuff that's going on now in the alternative and complementary medicine world is the only way I was going to find what I needed.
So the bed.
But what I, in the course of studying all this stuff, because you know how nosy I am, I have to get my nose into everything to better help in my hospice work, which became Compassionate Action, which now has almost 100,000 hours in the last three years at the bedside.
art bell
Yes, I know.
dannion brinkley
I just went over 8,000 hours myself, 861 hours in the year 2000, because I had this vision.
I had a near-death experience, then I had another near-death experience which committed me to get the job done.
Then I had the third one, which really gave me a way to see what it was really all about.
But why I'm doing Danien.com is to put this information out without me driving myself crazy.
And, you know, thanks for putting that stuff up there for me since I just got an answering machine.
But to put Danien.com out there and put the headings, and I will build this site around answering the questions that people are asking and what they want to do.
But one of the things about Casey, Casey, when you look at prophets and stuff, Edgar Casey said that there would come a day when there would be a machine that would be created that would link between this world and the other side.
art bell
Yep, when science meets the metaphysical.
Right.
dannion brinkley
Well, I knew from the visions that this would be a guideline in the basis of so much of the stuff that I've stuck with was end-of-life care and the health care, the nature of the learning of Qigong and auric bodies and energy fields.
art bell
All right, Daniel.
You know something about a machine, don't you?
That's being developed.
Now listen very carefully, everybody, now in Germany and South America, which will attempt, Art.
To communicate with the other side.
dannion brinkley
It'll do it.
It was in the vision.
It'll do it.
art bell
The toughest things with visions, with remote viewing, with prophecy of the scallion kind, with Ed Dave, all of them, it's timelines.
That's the toughest part of it.
Not that it's going to happen, but when will it happen seems to be the toughest of all.
dannion brinkley
Well, because we have so much free will and we have movement and we are really powerful.
We collectively as a consciousness, you know, but the spiritual beings that we all are down here, we have power.
We can affect things and change and shift things.
But, you know, mine is watching.
It's been pretty tight, Art.
You know, I missed them, but it was only my ability to interpret it in 1975 because it only happened once.
art bell
Is there any way that you know of, Daniel, to get information on the progress being made in Germany or South America or wherever somebody's working on something?
dannion brinkley
Oh yeah, I talked to them.
I went out.
art bell
What do you know?
dannion brinkley
It'll be in the next year.
It will be completely possible.
The device that Casey talked about and, you know, Tesla talked about it.
What's happened to me, you know all this, but for those who are listening, I'm a very curious person after three near-death experiences.
And I look for ways that will help people better achieve the fact that they should not be afraid of dying because I'm not afraid of it and I've been through every phase of it.
And once you have that place, you can see how to care about the people around you and how you do your great spiritual work.
But you can also have freedom to not penalize and torture yourself over things that you think you've done that's so evil, but you really didn't do as bad as you thought.
art bell
Yeah, I had Professor John Mack on last night.
dannion brinkley
He's a great guy.
Yeah, he's a great guy.
art bell
And he said, you know, after these experiences, one thing that we psychiatrists have thoroughly noted is that people absolutely lose their fear of dying.
And I think I brought up your name, and he cited you as a prime example.
dannion brinkley
Oh, because John knows me.
You know what?
Everybody, well, you laugh, Art.
People know I stand for what I stand for, and no matter how crazy I appear to be, I'm very methodical about achieving this.
I have before me, right in front of me, a grant proposal, an RFA grant proposal to the National Institute for Health for a two-year project and a budget of $200,000 to take the centers that I wrote about in my books and what they told me to do,
that I have a grant proposal in front of me now to go to the National Institute for Health in combination with the Veterans Administration to fund and finance the study of the centers with Larry Dossi as the lead prime researcher and Beverly Rubick and a couple of other and the ex-head of the National Institute for Health, Wayne Jonas, on a board of review of this study.
art bell
Wow.
dannion brinkley
I mean, here it is.
Here's all 260 pages filled out and ready.
art bell
I know you're pursuing exactly what you were told to pursue.
I remember one day being with you, Dan, in a quiet moment.
We were talking about some of your IRS difficulties.
And one of the funniest things I think I ever heard you say was, you know, you said, well, what the hell are they going to do to me?
dannion brinkley
Kill me.
art bell
I mean, kill me?
I'll tell the IRS I welcome death.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, but I'm not, you don't be afraid.
art bell
That's right.
It takes a lot of fear away, doesn't it?
dannion brinkley
But you don't be afraid.
I try to get across to people, everybody out there, what's so cool about listening to Art Bell is he gives you information.
And my part in this is I'm 50 years old.
This is 25 years of this.
And I write about it in books that were six years ago.
This next book, The Final Light book, took me four years.
art bell
And that's going to be the title of the final book, The Final Light?
dannion brinkley
Well, I think it's called In Still in the Light.
Lose the Fear and Instill the Light.
art bell
Yeah, they change these titles as they go.
dannion brinkley
Well, Diane does all that.
art bell
Are you done?
Are you done?
Have you finished the book?
dannion brinkley
Let me tell you something really funny.
This guy who I know that I'm as irritating to him as I am to you, Don Henson, he called me one day and everybody always writes my tomb, my epitaph.
art bell
Yes.
dannion brinkley
And I made him really mad because I was yelling or something.
And he said, I know what we're going to put on your tombstone.
Here lies Daniel Brinkley, finally.
Finally.
art bell
You know, that's not all that bad, actually.
dannion brinkley
Well, but, you know, this shows that I irritate the life out of my friends, and I don't really mean to.
But in the course of bringing this center into play, in the end of life, I could find that place that could make the difference in end-of-life care.
Now, the centers came from a spiritual world, and I brought it back, and I've been saying this over and over.
My father will back it up, and everybody who knows me is the same stuff I've talked about.
art bell
Yeah, with a big, exasperated sigh, I'm sure.
dannion brinkley
Oh, God, even you.
Look how often you have to hear it.
art bell
I know.
I mean, it is your obsession.
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
But it's in front of me.
art bell
See, for the public and for me, that's how and why this story all works.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, I'm still doing it, and I don't click, no matter what else is going on.
But you brought into it in the third near-death experience.
See, I was looking at these devices, these machines, because the advancement of computers and the advancement of computer technology, what happens with this aura-producing machine, which is magnificent, and these voice, this trans communication, which I've studied since 1992, watch them every day and watch the development of it and watch how you can trap it and get caught at it.
And I've seen some of the most amazing stuff in the world.
And as this comes out and the veil begins to lift, because when people can sit at home, and this is a program, you know, what I wanted to do with you, if it's true, what shall we do, was to create a program where people can take the tape recorders and to follow the procedures of the places and the equipment that's being made.
And the people that you know out there in Art Not Land, so like me, they'll try it.
And you can have, we'll get a call in to let people call in and send their tapes in and information, and then we can get them analyzed by all those people that you know.
And then maybe that art bell creates that system that people can communicate between it, and we do an experiment.
It worked with prayer art.
art bell
I know.
dannion brinkley
It worked with prayer.
art bell
And I still don't fully understand what prayer is.
I just know it works.
Dan, your books, are they...
Saved by the Light was first.
How many are still available?
How many are out of print?
What's the deal now?
dannion brinkley
Well, I mean, it's in paperback.
It's in the top 1% of Amazon.
It stays up there.
People buy.
I've sold millions of books.
art bell
what you heard tonight was just sort of a gloss over even here on extended form radio as compared to what's in the book so can they still go get Can they still go get Say By the Light?
dannion brinkley
Say by the Light and A Peace in the Light.
And for everybody, Daniel.com.
I mean, there is the Twilight Brigade, which is compassionate action.
But if you go to Daniel.com, I'm going to build this website around all of this stuff, Art.
I mean, I've been through three of these.
I'm 50 years old.
I have a lot of opinions about things other than death.
You know, you and I were talking about chemtrails.
art bell
Yep, and we'll get to that in a second.
Dan, I want to ask you something.
I know what you go through with your blood ever since the original horrible thing, your death, I guess.
Ever since then.
How are you now?
The audience will want to know, how are you now?
Your blood levels.
What is it in your life?
dannion brinkley
You know, what was going on?
I did Mike Siegel, and everybody thought I was an out-of-space art, but there's nothing I could do about all that.
That was a Veterans Day, and I have a problem that my blood disappears.
One of the things of being struck by lightning, everybody, is you are now a part of a medical paradigm.
You are in the Office of Rare Diseases and Disorders, considered a disorder, because so many things happen to people that are struck by lightning as opposed to any other form of electrocution, because usually no one ever lives.
But the few people that have lived, they develop intuitive powers and psychic powers, and they develop ways of empathic feelings, of communication with people, like knowing what's going on around them.
They go through a lot of the stuff that historically have always been related to shamans or lightning.
art bell
Yeah, I happen to know, I'll tell my audience, rarely do I say things like this, but I know personally of, oh, I don't know, a couple dozen times when I've seen Danion's psychic power, and it would put you to your knees if you were in my position.
I mean, it's really that serious.
He really has it.
It's interesting, though, to some degree, I know that right after it happened, you had so much telepathy ability that you were hearing a cacophony of thoughts all around you to the degree where you couldn't even stand to be near people for a long, long time.
Isn't that true?
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
All right, I could move objects.
In those early years, I mean, there are legends about all that stuff.
I could move and float crystals.
It was like a crystal glass.
I could move my hand around it.
I mean, these things have subsided as I've become more aware of staying focused on getting the mission done.
art bell
Is it continuing to fade?
dannion brinkley
Well, to a certain point, thank God.
Now I only know 90% of everybody's business, you know.
But I don't have the power of the mind skills that I had when I could move objects and I could, you know, affect electricity.
These are things in the first two years, like 76 and 77, I could do.
I could change and put my hand over watches and like LED watches, not like, you know, like making watches stop or start.
It has to be electronic.
But those things have subsided.
But the intuitive thing is, since I focus so much in end-of-life care, I believe that I can teach people how to do what I do.
That's what Daniel.com is about, and that's what you allow me to talk about.
art bell
How do you think that you can really teach people to do what you do without them having had the profound experience that you have?
dannion brinkley
Compassion and action.
I mean, you know, just the foundation and the trainings.
They really are the map.
They disguise, I want everybody to be Harry Potter.
I want everybody to have and feel that place.
art bell
But there's such a difference between describing something in the first person as what you could do to somebody who'd be lying on a bed and dying and somebody trying to do it having been trained by you to do it.
There's got to be such a big difference.
dannion brinkley
Well, it is a big difference.
But there are times, like now with compassion, I actually know it's 4,800 of them.
And the stories that they tell me, the things that happen to them, and they have to come and tell daddy, you know, have to come and run it by me.
And these are the people who really get out every day hundreds of hours, aren't you, 27,000 hours.
My people put in VAs and places across America.
That's 27,130.3 documented hours.
There's another 34,000 that can't come under the criteria.
But the basis of what they have achieved and why, because like me, a hospice volunteer for 24 years because I know that's where I am the closest to that world out of the world.
art bell
I understand.
You're passionate about all this, folks.
Again, I want to ask you, Dan, what is your current condition?
How are your blood levels?
dannion brinkley
Better than they've ever been.
By looking at the machinery, the photon machines, and looking at the different diagnostics machines that were in the vision.
Like I'm going back to Colorado Springs where the Tesla coil was invented to look at another piece of equipment that analyzes.
I have to say that these two machines that I've discovered and the doctor's realizing that my body was not producing enough blood.
art bell
Yeah, how often do you have to get your blood checked now?
dannion brinkley
Every two weeks.
art bell
Yeah, every two weeks for the Coumadin level versus...
Because with the cumin in there, at any time, you could begin to hemorrhage in your brain, which, of course, you did with your third inch.
dannion brinkley
I take 20 to 30 milligrams a day.
art bell
Hold on, Daniel.
I'm Art Bell.
We're going to take calls in a minute for Daniel Brinkley.
Stay right where you are.
unidentified
Stay right where you are.
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Cause he wasn't there to get more anytime.
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Well, call our bell from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
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art bell
Here's something that a lot of people don't know.
When I went to South Carolina, when Daniel was dying for the third time, I went to visit him in the hospital, and I took with me, at his request, a camcorder.
And I actually recorded, this was the night before Daniel was going into brain surgery, which they didn't think he'd make it out of.
In fact, they were going to probably have to crack open his chest so they could.
They thought they were thinking revive his heart if one of these clots in his brain let go.
They had to relieve the pressure, and they drilled holes in his head.
It was terrible.
But the night before, when nobody thought he'd make it, I recorded what he had to say to the world.
And I still have that tape, and you know, I'm going to hold it until the finally is inscribed.
And that is, unless my time comes first.
But I do have that for Daniel, and I'm holding that.
I want you to understand how true everything you're hearing is.
We are about to go to the phone.
Stay right where you are.
Danien Brinkley is here.
Here in a second, we're going to go to the phones.
We're going to let you ask Daniel Brinkley questions.
In the meantime, Dan, this is interesting.
I just got an email from Ireland.
Oh, by the way, that reminds me, just before I do read this, we've got an international line.
So from Great Britain or Asia or South America or, I don't know, the North Pole, anywhere in the world, you can call us toll free.
We'll pay for the call.
All you've got to do is manage to get through.
And some of you I know in Great Britain and Asia know how to do it.
You call a certain number or you call the AT ⁇ T operator.
Anyway, give it a try wherever you are in the world.
Our international number is 800-893-0903.
That's 800-893-0903.
But the email is from Ireland of all places.
And it's somebody you know, apparently, named Mike Pettigrew.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, he's the guy that has your t-shirt on on my website.
art bell
It says, can you ask Dan, please, if he has any intuitions about Europe, specifically Ireland, and earth changes over the next couple of years?
Most of the earth changes info we get over here relates solely to the U.S., and very little is mentioned about the future of Europe.
Thanks to both of you, Mike.
dannion brinkley
That's wonderful.
That's what I'm doing with Danien.com.
Ireland is safe.
It's not going to change too much.
It's the nuclear radiation and what happens in the submarine.
And in the vision, Ireland is one of the hearts of the reuniting of man and the earth and Celtic tradition and good science business.
art bell
So Ireland, what about Europe generally?
dannion brinkley
Europe generally is in trouble.
art bell
Trouble.
dannion brinkley
Here it comes.
Here comes the change.
I'm not going to be Gordon Michael because most of the earth changes that happened to me that I saw was Japan and Central and South America and Mexico.
But Europe begins to first has to be the corroding of the economy and how they handle, look at the killing all the cows.
They're destroying the whole way of civilization to operate.
And why would they do that?
art bell
Well, I know things are upon us that are almost biblical.
dannion brinkley
There's a greater control of people, Art.
Maybe they are biblical.
There's a greater control to be established if you take away that food source than what you put in to replenish it.
You know, I'm like you, I'm pretty cynical about that.
Why I have trouble with the IRS, and they're really good to me, Art.
I just fight things on principle.
I don't fight the Nationalists.
Before we get away from the fight, I fight the Veterans Administration.
art bell
I fight them on principles.
I know you do.
I know you do.
Mike said, P.S., tell Daniel he was right with his prediction I'm getting married on May 19th.
East of the Rockies, call toll-free, 1-800-825-5033.
dannion brinkley
He's a really smart guy, and he studies and tries to put together programs, and he asked me about it.
He was dating this other person.
You know, the same stuff.
art bell
You told him he was going to get married.
dannion brinkley
I told him when and who it would be and all that.
art bell
Oh, no kidding.
dannion brinkley
Well, I told you.
Who it was, what they were like.
art bell
He's in Ireland.
Anyway, he already said you were right in your prediction.
dannion brinkley
Well, you've been there.
art bell
All right.
Here it, yeah.
dannion brinkley
You know what?
art bell
And you know what?
I'll tell everybody in the audience.
Being with you at times when you're being psychic is not real comfortable.
dannion brinkley
I do it to everybody, but I don't mean to art.
art bell
It's like you can take Danien But in doses.
Doses oh Danion.
That's all you can say.
You really are too psychic, and it's absolutely unnerving.
You're going to take calls is what you're going to do right now.
dannion brinkley
Okay, can I say one other thing, though, Art, about one thing I've discovered?
I'm still on those chemtrails.
You know how that bothers me.
Wendy, can I say that?
art bell
Well, you can say it now.
Whatever you want to say about chemtrails.
Go ahead.
dannion brinkley
Everybody, from listening to Art Bell and Robert and Ghostwolf and people talking about chemtrails and government conspiracies.
art bell
William Thomas is a name that really has to be.
dannion brinkley
William Thomas.
I went to, I went, I listened to all that stuff, Art, and I know more about the government because of people.
I have a lot of people who work in the government who tell me stuff.
But I don't buy all that conspiracy stuff.
But there's something that has to be recognized.
I listened to all that stuff, and I got off of an airplane.
I got off of an airplane in Colorado Springs, and I saw these chemtrails.
Stuff that you had talked about.
And I just kind of listened to that stuff.
I had all the symptoms.
When I got back on that airplane and got here, it liked to kill me.
It's what really made me start pushing to make sure I'm healthy and conscious and doing and looking at the energy bodies and really healing myself, like you're talking about, this growth hormone.
Really doing it because chemtrails exist.
art bell
Dan, I'll tell you something else.
The environment's in really serious trouble.
Just in the last few days, you may not know about this, Dan.
Alan, I noticed it a week ago because of my audience.
We get on everything early here.
But there was this foul yellow haze that descended on the entire western third of the United States.
And at first they ignored it.
They couldn't figure out what it was or they wouldn't admit what it was.
But now we have stories indicating that not only was it dust from Mongolia, but it was pollution from China.
And I've got a story that says you might as well get used to it because it's going to keep coming and it's going to get much, much worse.
dannion brinkley
But I believe, Art, that that's controlling of weather patterns.
Look at Fallon.
Right now in Fallon, because Jim Peters and Martin's and Alicia, they have a, from them telling me stuff that's going on there, they have wells that have depleted uranium at 370 times or 370 parts per billion, and they have children dying of leukemia.
And it's right there in Fallon, and there's people who are doing stuff about it.
Jim Peters listens to Art Bell, and he's doing with his place there, Stockman's, and his children are doing studies and reports on it in school and stuff to bring awareness.
So people, what you do, Art, like I'm telling people about chemtrails, stuff that you put out on the air, I don't know how all of it is true because some of these people are really stretched.
And I may sound like that to a lot of people, but a lot of this stuff is true, and chemtrails are so real.
art bell
I have a different format, Joe.
People aren't used to it, Dan.
And I allow people to say what they want to say.
I assume my audience are a bunch of grown-ups, and they can sift the BS from the real stuff.
I just have a forum, and so you will hear things here that you will not hear elsewhere.
Some of it true, some of it BS.
dannion brinkley
You shift through them pretty fast.
Don't try to fool me.
Well, people can tell when you get them.
What is so much fun about them?
art bell
Yeah, but see, Dan, oh, Dan, no, that's not the way I do it.
I don't get them.
I let them get themselves.
dannion brinkley
Absolutely.
art bell
All you do is let out enough rope, and eventually they get the right configuration, get it around their neck, and they're hanging and singing in the breeze.
Here come the calls, Dan.
First time callers.
First time callers, area code 775-727-1222.
Okay, let's hold it.
I'm sorry, dear.
I'm going to have to bleep that out.
We don't allow last names on the air.
So let's try it all over again.
Your first name is?
unidentified
Marlise from Portland, and I'm really sorry.
It just popped out automatically.
art bell
I know it happens.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hi, Danian.
Danian, I've watched you.
I had the opportunity to start watching you on the Wisdom Channel in November and watched you in November, and they rerun you again in December and stuff.
And I can't get enough of you.
My father passed on January the 1st.
And because I've watched you, I was able to help him transition.
dannion brinkley
Oh, golly, thank you so much for calling and telling me that.
unidentified
You know, it has changed my life, Danion.
Things have just been...
Before that even happened, and when I was watching, I told my husband, who's a disabled vet, and I said, "I know." Pardon me, I sure will.
I told him that, you know, this is what I want to do.
I said, I can feel it inside.
This is really what I want to do.
And then when it happened with my father, and it was supposed to take all day, and it took about an hour.
dannion brinkley
Because you were there going through the stuff.
What Compassion in Action is, and I have a Portland organization there.
Just look it up.
It's Portland and Compassionate in Action.
unidentified
I will.
dannion brinkley
What I try to do is to train people.
You know, after three near-death experiences and being around, you know, I spent 8,000 hours and I've been at the bedside of 296 people and I study it and I can take those things and help people just like what you're saying so you can deal with that.
Because if you're able to deal with that, you can really live life.
You can explore the things like what art talks about and you have time for your own personal self because you're not so caught up in it.
And that's what I'm really all about.
Go to artbell, danion.com, and then just push up CIA, Compassionate Action, and it'll take you to where you can sign up and who and what you look at and all that stuff.
unidentified
Well, thank you so much.
dannion brinkley
Thank you for calling.
art bell
Take care.
A wildcard line, you're on there with Daniel Brinkley.
Where are you, please?
unidentified
Yeah, Western New York.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
dannion brinkley
Your name, sir?
unidentified
Oh, this is Sean.
dannion brinkley
Hi, Sean.
unidentified
How you doing?
What I understand is I've got a couple of questions.
You were struck by lightning?
dannion brinkley
Twice.
art bell
Twice.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
1975, 1978.
art bell
Destroying yet another old myth about lightning never striking plastic.
dannion brinkley
Talking on the telephone in my bedroom, two different houses, 13 miles apart, three years apart.
art bell
Okay, well, I apologize.
unidentified
I picked up your show kind of late.
I'm the third shift employed, so.
dannion brinkley
No, no, go ahead.
I'm sorry, Carlos.
unidentified
Okay.
Have you ever thought about, are you familiar with John Edwards?
dannion brinkley
Yes.
unidentified
Okay, have you ever done any work with him?
Yes.
Okay.
Where and when?
dannion brinkley
John, I've done programs with John.
I mean, I don't do programs with John now, but I've done programs with John.
I've done programs with everybody who does that form of trans communication.
George Anderson and Sylvia and James Von Prague and Louisia.
art bell
I'm going to have James on next week.
dannion brinkley
He's good as gold.
But as to John Edwards, what do you want to know about it?
unidentified
Well, he is the only one that I would, or actually I do pay attention to.
I mean, you get these 900 psychic lines.
dannion brinkley
I don't even pay attention.
No psychic lines.
But I mean, I'm not.
John is.
I can't say that I can say that John's not real, but I'm not going to support John in his style and his technique of how he does it equal to George Anderson or James Von Prague or Sylvia Brown.
I'm just not going to do that.
art bell
You asked for an assessment caller.
You got it.
unidentified
Okay.
dannion brinkley
Not going to do it.
unidentified
So keep looking.
dannion brinkley
Look around at others before you choose that one place.
unidentified
All right.
Okay.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
art bell
Thank you for the call.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
unidentified
Good morning.
Hi, this is Brian from Fort Smith.
art bell
Hi, Brian.
dannion brinkley
Hi, Brian.
unidentified
First of all, I want to say I love your show more than anything I've ever heard.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And I've got, I mean, just one simple question.
I mean, you talk about these intuitive, these insights you get.
dannion brinkley
Right.
unidentified
And I mean, are they all gloom and doom?
dannion brinkley
No, no.
unidentified
You get.
dannion brinkley
Oh, I get really good stuff.
I mean, there's two things.
There are the boxes of knowledge.
Okay.
The boxes of knowledge are there.
There's nothing I could ever do about them.
The second part of the second near-death experience gave me the rest of the centers and how to do it.
That is totally, completely different from Daniel Brinkley as an intuitive or as an empath.
Totally, completely different.
I pick up a lot of stuff about people.
But in the boxes of knowledge, there was some pretty horrible stuff.
But there was some magnificent stuff.
Advancing us as spiritual beings, the way medicine will be as our light bodies and energy bodies come into play, the way that we will be able to commune with the other side and not be afraid and know that it's just another dimension because we're coming.
I think this planet, this Zachariah Ascension story that he just told me, as it begins to evolve in 453 genes and oh God, and it's 3,600 years, it really makes a lot of sense in the total amount of divisions that here comes an age of enlightenment.
We are 10 or 12 years from a complete new age of enlightenment.
art bell
All right, so Colma, the answer is good and bad, just like life.
dannion brinkley
Good and bad, but there's a great future for us spiritually, but there'll be a few rough times like Art wrote about in the storm.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
Take care.
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hi.
unidentified
First, I wanted to say how much I appreciate the people you've had interviewed the last few days.
It's been incredible.
Thank you.
I wondered, Daniel, I believe I've been called to do something here, and I heard a little bit of mention about you had a couple of years when first it was very difficult to even be exposed to others and such.
And I'm having difficulty, and I have a pretty clear vision of what to do, but I can't seem to get it done.
dannion brinkley
Well, I feel the same way.
I've been at this for 25 years.
But you see, remember, I'm living proof in the books that I write and the stuff that I do that you can get it done.
I want to have a life.
I have given, I'm 50 years old, I've given 25 years of my life to fulfill a project.
I am within fingertips of accomplishing it, and I have the data in front of me, and I decided to, you know, talk to people, and the way I want to do it is to put it out on the web, Daniel.com, and I'm going to build this and explain everything and put it out there.
And I've now heard that you can even talk on the Internet.
art bell
You can.
Caller, what's preventing you from...
dannion brinkley
If you really want a life, you can achieve it.
And I want a life.
I've already begun to design the new life that I get to be as Daniel Branch.
art bell
Okay, but Caller, what do you think is holding you up?
unidentified
Well, I'm disabled.
I don't have the money to...
dannion brinkley
This likes me, doesn't it?
I was dead, completely paralyzed, and I had to build a spiritual retreat.
unidentified
Did you have a near-death experience?
Very similar.
I had an enlightenment experience on November 20th.
dannion brinkley
Don't you just hate how they do that to us?
unidentified
Don't you just hate it?
I do look forward to talking with you another time.
I don't have a computer, but I'll All right.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
Let's do that right now, Dan.
Give your address really slowly, would you?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Danien Brinkley.
dannion brinkley
Post Office Box 1919.
art bell
1919, huh?
dannion brinkley
Aiken, A-I-K-E-N.
art bell
Aiken, Georgia.
dannion brinkley
South Carolina.
art bell
South Carolina.
I'm always Trump with you in Georgia.
South Carolina.
And the zip code?
dannion brinkley
29802.
art bell
29802.
dannion brinkley
And go to Danien.com and just keep coming back to Danien.com if you have a computer.
And compassionate CIA is already up, but you'll see the headings of where I want to take all of this.
art bell
No, I understand.
Danien Brinkley, post office box, 1919, as they'd say in Aiken, South Carolina, 29802.
Is there any other, do you have anything like email or any other way?
dannion brinkley
Daniel at Mail M-A-I-L-E-C-L.
art bell
Wait a minute.
Daniel.
dannion brinkley
Mail Excel.
art bell
Mail Excel.
unidentified
Yeah, dot.com.com.
art bell
All right, you'll get a lot of email.
Daniel at mail.
M-A-I-L, right?
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
art bell
And then Excel, all strung together.com.
All right, Daniel.
dannion brinkley
Let people write.
I mean, come send me the stuff.
I have Valerie and Greg, and they'll look at it.
art bell
You manage to get people to write back to you?
I mean, do you manage to get people to help you, or do you write back to people?
dannion brinkley
Well, I do the best I can, all right.
I'm like, you know, there's thousands of stuff that comes in here, thousands of pieces.
But I have my cards, and I have people who help.
You know, I'm like a cottage industry, like anybody else in this.
And I just try to get everything out, and I have people who do it and look at it, and they highlight the stuff that I'm supposed to.
They know what matters to me.
And I get some of the greatest mail in the world, and people report to me all kinds of stuff, you know, from If It's True, What Shall We Do, from government agencies.
I'm like Art Bell in the underworld what I hear.
art bell
All right, listen to me now.
We're coming up on the top of the hour.
It's almost 5 o'clock there in South Carolina.
Even in Georgia, too.
So I always give my guests a choice.
If you want to head to bed there at around 5, you can do that right now.
Or I have one last hour of the show.
Your option all the way.
dannion brinkley
I'd like to stay.
I mean, thank you.
art bell
Right, consider it done.
Rest, revive, take a good deep breath, and we'll answer a lot of phones in the next hour.
unidentified
What would you do if you know me?
No one waited by your side.
You feel alone.
I don't want you long.
You know it's just your true love.
You know it's just your true love.
If only you believe like I believe like I believe we can die.
Oh, yeah.
So we're making love How?
How?
That's really nothing we can't do If we want to, we know We couldn't stop, it's so easy Wanna take a ride?
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I'm trying to watch that international line as carefully as I can.
I can't always concentrate on it, but for heaven's sakes, wherever you are in Europe or Asia, go ahead, take the plunge if you've got a question for Daniel.
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All you've got to do is figure out how to get through.
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The number is 800-893-0903.
And I'm watching that international line like a hawk, sort of, half a hawk.
800-893-0903.
this hours on the phone with any breakage uh...
unidentified
uh...
art bell
Once again, Daniel Brinkley.
Dan, you're back.
dannion brinkley
Yes, and Art, I would support.
art bell
You've heard that before, haven't you, Dan?
Hey, Dan, you're back.
dannion brinkley
I support that last commercial that you just did about gold.
art bell
So would sitchin.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, that's where I'm telling people.
I would recommend it very much that we followed up on that because if that crowd's coming, I won't have plenty of it for them.
art bell
It's a good point, Dan.
It's a really good point.
dannion brinkley
No doubt of it.
I know who's going to make it worth $8.50.
unidentified
If Zachariah's right.
art bell
You know, it's interesting, though.
There is something about gold, Dan.
If you hold a $20 gold piece in your hand, you know, one of the old double eagles or whatever, there's something different about it.
It feels different.
It's got a different aura about it.
There is something about it.
dannion brinkley
It was amazing.
When you said it tonight, Art, it was amazing to me the nature of, as you were blending your thoughts with it.
I could feel that, you know how I do when I listen to those things.
There is something really true about what Zachariah is saying.
And when you started relating the way that we feel about gold, and because it's always here and it's, you know, it only serrices just a small amount.
And only part gold that's not here that was here since the beginning of time is in spacecraft floating around the planet.
The rest of it is still here.
But when you look at gold and you listen to that, and just from what you were saying, because I felt it like everyone else felt it, there's something real about that.
art bell
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, here we go.
I promise calls, and that's what we're going to do.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley in South Carolina.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
My name's Rod, and I'm calling from Saskatchewan, Canada.
Okay.
art bell
Hi, Rod.
dannion brinkley
That's international.
unidentified
Yeah, kind of international, I guess.
dannion brinkley
Hello.
unidentified
You're up here in the booties.
First off, welcome back, Art.
I know you're sick of hearing that, but...
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
This is, like I said, first-time caller line.
I guess I've been listening for years, and this is the first time I've actually got through.
Bless your honor.
I'd like to commend Daniel for his work with palliative patients.
You know, there should be more help with people who are dying.
dannion brinkley
They're really going to be living.
But I thank you.
I'm trying to create that buffer.
What can I help you with?
unidentified
Well, my dad died of cancer in May of 97, and my mom had a stroke a year ago.
And, you know, I kind of looked after my dad when he was going through the dying process and everything through palliative care.
dannion brinkley
The way you're supposed to do it.
unidentified
And, you know, I've been looking after my mom since she had her stroke.
You know, with the health services and stuff nowadays, you don't really get everything that you hope for.
dannion brinkley
Do you play music for her?
unidentified
So, you know, I'm more or less more physiotherapist and speech therapist.
And, you know, I'm not working right now.
art bell
You may not have heard Dan.
Dan, Dan, hold it.
Dan asked, did you play music?
dannion brinkley
Yes, I do.
unidentified
I am a musician.
dannion brinkley
You got it.
There is your key.
unidentified
Pardon me?
dannion brinkley
That's your key.
unidentified
Well, I'm also a golfer as well.
dannion brinkley
Well, but I'm not, listen watch.
You're key to be looking at how to help your mom.
art bell
Okay.
dannion brinkley
And using the spheres of music.
Now, this may be odd to you, but you think of a song that you composed for your father.
A song that you would compose about your father.
And as you find those chords and those spheres, and you play that music for your mother, it gives him a way to take the spheres of music or the spheres of sound, that vibration, move through you as you compose it and play it for her.
And you will see a miraculous improvement in the condition of her and in the condition of how well she's able to regain as much of the use of herself as she should as a stroke.
unidentified
But, you know, you are the vehicle.
dannion brinkley
Try me.
unidentified
A couple questions.
Am I going to make out career-wise for the next couple of years?
art bell
No, we're not doing that.
dannion brinkley
I can do that for this one, Art.
If you do what I tell you you will, if you go and write this song for your mother, and you'd be amazed at what's going to happen when you get your father to come and help you as you write a song thinking about your father, and you play it for your mother, you'll be amazed at what's going to happen.
art bell
All right, now, let me stop you, Cole, Dan.
I know, and a lot of the audience knows, you can do psychic readings.
We don't do those, and I don't do them on this program, and I know it's irresistible for you.
I know I'm cheating, Art, but I know you're not.
Hold on as best you can, Dan, and don't do it.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
art bell
All right, you got it.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hello.
unidentified
Well, hello.
What a pleasure.
Art, Daniel.
dannion brinkley
Hello.
unidentified
This is Kanan.
Hello?
art bell
Yes, Kayman?
unidentified
This is Kanan Collins from the high desert of Burns, Oregon.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
unidentified
Daniel, several years ago, this has been driving me crazy.
Several years ago, you were on the Carolyn Marilyn show, right?
dannion brinkley
Yes.
unidentified
And you mentioned that one of the things that you had seen in the future was the discovery of a creature, a species, that was going to make us rethink about who we are and everything.
And I just wondered, I haven't, I apologize, I haven't read your books, but have you ever divulged what that creature was?
dannion brinkley
No.
unidentified
No, and you won't until it happens?
dannion brinkley
It's in China, though.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Well, that's good enough for me, actually.
dannion brinkley
It exists.
Listen.
As art unfolds, forbidden archaeology, the kind of stuff that Art and I always work on, you know, if it's true, what shall we do is like something we're working on.
There are things that he's learned, but I've learned them too, is people let me know stuff.
And they've discovered it already.
It's been discovered.
It's like that wait 48 hours before you talk about a UFO.
It's in one of those kind of modes.
But nonetheless, and I listen to art about a lot of this, I ease it out a little at a time.
That's what Danien.com is about.
And you know, something I wanted to mention about Canada art, and I'm trying not to make a prediction, but the destiny of what's going to happen in America in the next eight years is being decided in Quebec City today.
art bell
Oh, Quebec City.
dannion brinkley
And there's 100,000 people up there protesting.
art bell
I know.
dannion brinkley
and they're blocking them out, and I want everybody to do that.
Man, it is the meeting of how they're going to structure the Western Hemisphere in the making of the three empires, the Western Hemisphere, the European, and the Asian common market.
And I bet you, if you look at the predictions about the border between America and Mexico, where I said they would have to have troops to board these borders, I'll bet you they're about to eliminate the border between central, between Mexico and the United States, and a new buffer zone, 150 miles into America and 150 miles into Mexico, will be established at this meeting.
And we all of a sudden begin to lose a certain boundary in the nature of trade and what's going on there.
art bell
I'll bet you they don't do it, Dan.
You want to put money on that?
dannion brinkley
I'll bet you that it sets itself in motion because it would have to fit.
art bell
Well, we're probably, oh, sure, we're headed there eventually, but we're not there yet.
dannion brinkley
Well, it'll, you know, here's the thing.
art bell
Any president who would do that right now would find himself so quickly out of office in the next election.
dannion brinkley
Well, I'm agreeing.
I'm just saying that this is part of what the walls, once there was no longer protection and the millions and millions would flow in, this is when the box of knowledge is, and I can cross-reference through this.
You know, I had this thing all cross-referenced through people who do search engines and who study this stuff for the government, who do this, are intelligence-gathering people who cross-reference these predictions.
art bell
No, I understand.
It's downloaded somehow.
dannion brinkley
As I read it, this has to be the next movement.
And I want people to be aware of that, to know as much about this Quebec City meeting as they can possibly get information about along with that.
art bell
I'm all for that.
I'm all for that.
It just won't happen that quickly.
They may plot it and strategize it there, and it may be the beginning of it, but it won't happen yet.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hello.
dannion brinkley
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hi, where are you?
I'm in Austin, Texas.
This is Eric.
Yes, Eric.
Hi, how you doing?
Welcome back, by the way.
Also, that automation system is an INCO system, isn't it?
I beg your pardon?
The machine that you have on your, or the machine that you have in your commercial phone, that's an INCO system, isn't it?
unidentified
No.
art bell
No?
No, it's a Sony mini-disc.
Oh, well, okay.
I was just thinking you had what a lot of the radio stations had.
No, no, no, I have primitive stuff here.
Do you know that I have cart machines?
dannion brinkley
You still have those old cart machines.
unidentified
And you couldn't rip them.
art bell
They've tried to rip these things out of my hands for I don't know how long, and they're never going to get them.
dannion brinkley
Oh, we get along so well.
I got an answering machine, Art.
art bell
Well, you've got an answering machine.
That's progress for Dan.
I've got a statement and a question for Daniel.
Sure.
First of all, I saw you at the 99 Whole Life Expo, the last one to come through Austin, Texas.
And when you talked about the entrance to the Crystal City, how it basically was vibrant colors and stuff like that, the immediate thing that flashed through my head was a reflection of your aura that I saw in your aura photograph.
dannion brinkley
Wow.
art bell
And that's, I don't know if that's the same thing that you saw, but that's what I got.
Yeah, that's what I was seeing, because you mentioned the whites and the reds.
I saw the white on top.
dannion brinkley
The violet and that crimson, and then there was white and then a gold, like a little bluish and then gold.
And it was something I noticed more dramatic than the building itself.
You know, I'm looking at what looks like plexiglass brick, and each of them had its own nuclei.
It had its own energy field.
And I was looking at the structure, and then when the being merged with me, which I can't say for sure that's what happened, but I believe that's what happened, then these fields opened like it was the gateway for me to be able to enter into the Crystal City.
art bell
Interesting.
Now, let me ask you a very pointed question here.
What is your greatest challenge as far as meeting your mission?
I mean, anywhere from a day-to-day basis to the overall picture in general, what do you think is your greatest challenge?
dannion brinkley
Okay, my personal mission, which is try to be nice to everybody for a full day.
I fail that miserably, and I'm still working on it.
I mean, this is my personal mission.
It is the hardest thing for me to tolerate.
I am the most impatient, I mean, irritating, arrogant person you'll ever want to meet.
art bell
And I'm thinking you will finally go to your grave that way.
dannion brinkley
But this is who I am.
But in my spiritual mission.
art bell
That's what he meant.
dannion brinkley
I couldn't really ask.
I mean, you always need money, but you always need expertise and people to volunteer.
But I am so close.
And, you know, like, I am so close if I just stay out of my way and really put out an effort with compassion.
Compassionate action is designed to take the centers into the VA and to create a study that I can take World War II veterans.
They can go through this program.
I believe that I can take a World War II veteran and get in a German or Japanese prison camp and create a double-blind study and let a certain percentage go through the program and a certain percentage not go through the program.
And I believe because the center program will leave 17 to 22 percent faster.
People who go through it will leave this world.
A veteran would be able to let go because of what happens in the course of this program.
art bell
Yeah, if you can prove that, Dan, the funding would come.
So that double-blind test would be a good idea.
Listen, I've got another question for you.
It comes from Canada.
And they want to know in Canada, you know, there's a terrible amount of strife.
Other than what's going on in Quebec right now, there is a terrible division in Canada.
Many people want Canada to separate and break up.
And some even want in the West, the provinces, to join the U.S. Do you see anything like that occurring?
dannion brinkley
We had better be very careful about Quebec.
I believe that Canada will hold together, but there is an opportunity in the next two years.
You know, it was only one vote that kept Quebec funding.
art bell
It's going to be by the skin of its teeth.
dannion brinkley
But what we better pay attention to is Canada is the true melting pot of the northern hemisphere.
And these divisions are very, very possible to come into existence.
But I believe, because Canada is the melting pot, and it's showing its growth from the Chinese influx in the BC to the way Quebec sees itself as a monetary power, even into the eastern in Toronto and that area.
These are pretty complete different sections.
There's English and American, I mean English and European in the eastern part.
Asian in the western part and in the center is Quebec.
This is the real place where you can watch what's going to happen in the world by watching how we integrate Chinese, how the French and the European of the Quebec, In Western Canada, it's worked out very well.
unidentified
They're teaching.
Fabulous.
dannion brinkley
The Canadians teach us in the States are a way to truly look at integrating a world perspective.
art bell
All right, here we go.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
dannion brinkley
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
My name is Cindy, and Daniana, I saw you a few weeks ago at the Marriott.
art bell
Marriott?
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm in West Los Angeles.
art bell
Oh, you're in L.A., okay.
dannion brinkley
It's a rock and roll party.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes, and you weren't able to do the mind reading.
That's right.
dannion brinkley
I think it didn't go out.
But it was a great presentation before then, wasn't it?
unidentified
It was fabulous.
dannion brinkley
All right.
unidentified
It was really, really good.
dannion brinkley
So you've got to get Art to let me do a whole program on just being able to do that kind of thing.
unidentified
Well, I did have a question.
dannion brinkley
Okay.
unidentified
But it's about my grandmother.
She's shot Alzheimer's, and she's 92, and I don't know how to help let her know that it's okay for her to not stay here for us, that we're okay.
dannion brinkley
Well, what you do is you talk about it.
But music and aromatherapy, if you just look, music therapy and aromatherapy, guided imagery, these are things that you can get.
There are tapes, you know, people are producing these tapes, and, you know, Everett Franklin is doing one of these tapes that is about people being able to take this music and the rhythm and the tones and the sounds and being you there touching them and you in your own heart and your own thoughts allowing them to let go.
If you can let go, which is what you're explaining to me, that you really are ready and able to deal with it yourself.
That's what you're telling me.
Well, now, once you take that as that point, you look at the light things, touch, sense, fragrance, and sound.
Because in Alzheimer's, it's the neurotransmitters that are blocking, and a lot of that has to do with lead and the water that we drink and the foods that we eat and the pesticides and that stuff.
But what is happening is that person is spiritually connected, but the link between the mental and physical world is different from the emotional and spiritual world.
unidentified
Right.
dannion brinkley
All right, so what you have to do is blend emotional and spiritual.
Is she agitated?
unidentified
Yes, she's gets, all she wants to do is try to go home.
dannion brinkley
Well, but what you have to do is make sure you restrain her.
That's it.
You restrain it.
Don't drive yourself crazy over restraining it.
You put up with it, but you begin a series of fragrances, light fragrances, and music.
And you touch her.
You give her that hold that your hand is there, that she feels the safety of your hand, and that it's, mom, it's okay.
It's okay, it's okay.
unidentified
Okay.
Music therapies.
dannion brinkley
I like Stephen Alpern, but there's a lot of music therapy.
art bell
Yeah, it would be different for different people, but like gold, there's something inherently spiritual about music.
It'll be different things for different people, of course, but music is special in the same way.
Oh, I wish that gold is.
dannion brinkley
All right, I have a program that I'm doing with the guy in Colorado Terry, and it's using music and heartbeats for babies, crack babies and babies.
I use it in adults and watch people in the VAs become calm.
And it's a synchronized heartbeat with lullabies, just a simple repetition of lullabies.
art bell
Dan, I watched you kick people out of your hospital room and use music yourself for hours on end, remember?
dannion brinkley
Music therapy.
Sorry, Art, You got me.
art bell
Yeah.
I watched him use it himself for hours on end.
It was everybody out.
I'm going to go to work on myself, and he did.
He went to work on himself.
Came out the other side somehow.
All right, listen, when we get back, somebody is asking about suicide.
will ask.
unidentified
Well, I'm thinking of time to generate To realize just what I have found I have to stand on that tail Of what I am Oh!
All sleep to be there.
My heart is on.
I don't want your lonely mention with a tear in every room.
All I want to love you promised, then leave the halo moon.
But you think I should be happy with your money and your name.
You say you're a cheap one game Silver threads and golden needles In a endless heart of mine And I did not drown myself In the one who I was in life But you'd think I should be happy With your money and your name And hide myself in
sorrow While you play your cheap one game Want to take a ride?
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art bell
You know, there really is something to music.
unidentified
Something more...
art bell
There's something about music.
That's why I play it.
I love it.
It's part of my soul.
And I expect part of yours, too.
unidentified
And I expect part of mine.
I expect part of mine.
art bell
Well, all right.
I guess there was supposed to be the crescendo of the end of the Merchals, and it would sound something like this.
Damn, machines.
I mean, they're not always right.
Machines are not always right.
Dan, a number of people have fast blasted me, that means by the computer, wanting to know what, if any, anything you know about the consequences of suicide.
dannion brinkley
I know that it doesn't.
There is no eternal damnation for it.
Suicide is something that happens, Art.
You know, it happens because sometimes chemistry in a person, but a lot of times the social nature by which they grow up.
You know, there's a lot of reasons why people get depressed, and there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on in the world that leads to it.
But there is no such thing as being punished on the other side for committing suicide.
Most of those people, I think the worst thing that happens is you get a chance to look at a chance to look at the things that you could have accomplished.
You know, Art, in that third near-death experience, when I went from the blue-gray place to the tunnel in the first two, I never saw anything in the blue-gray place.
art bell
Asher, you know, Dad, maybe that makes sense.
If you had a life review, then maybe with a suicide, as you point out, the trauma would be seeing what you could have done.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, but it wouldn't be a trauma.
I mean, you know, you made a decision.
I'm not for euthanasia.
I'm against suicide.
I do not advocate suicide or euthanasia in any shape, form, or fashion, no matter how good I tell you it is on the other side.
No matter how good anybody else tells you it is over there, you choose to come here and you're chosen to come here.
You've come for a breath.
Breathe in for you and out for spiritual unfoldment.
And 25 years of studying the panoramic life of you and still watching the vision come true and still making it happen.
I can state that.
art bell
First time calling a line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hello.
Yes, this is Terrence from Morgan Hill, California.
I'm listening on KSF0560.
Hi, Terence.
dannion brinkley
Hi, Terrence.
I was wondering about the cathedral that you visit.
art bell
Is that on Sitchin's Nibiru?
unidentified
Or is that on the heaven that the Anunnaki of Nibiru pray to?
dannion brinkley
Well, I think it's on the heaven level in that context.
It's way past, it's mid-range astral plane.
It's the mid-range.
It doesn't reach the heavenly, the higher frequency, because as I finished the Crystal City, I can remember there were levels after that, you know, and those were the higher levels.
I probably went through four of these levels to get to the Crystal City and then to realize the vision that was being placed upon me, which was, I don't even know where that happened.
It was just that me and that being in light that was not, that was one from the cathedral.
And then coming back.
But once I was there receiving the knowledge for the centers, I knew there were levels higher.
So I'd say it would be in the upper astral plane using the way that Zachariah does it and how people basically break it down in ancient religion.
art bell
Thank you.
dannion brinkley
Thank you.
art bell
You're very welcome.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
Daniel, yes, I have a question, but a quick comment since you brought up the Quebec meeting.
I think you're right about keeping a close eyeball on this.
If you just do a quick search about the Free Trade Act, especially like within the last three or four months, I'm not talking about going to conspiracy sites or anything like that, just AP and UPI stories, and see the flurry of activity that's been going on in South America, Mexico, and Canada to get these borders basically brought down.
dannion brinkley
And to get them to accept the dollar as a national currency.
The exception of the United States dollar is the key they have to move.
And Europe's in place.
Look where Europe is, and they got it.
This all has to happen before the Chinese figure out what they're going to do about the Asian countries.
unidentified
You got that?
No, really.
This is something that has a little bit more gravity than just, oh, it's just another NAFTA thing.
No, this thing has teeth.
dannion brinkley
This is the big one.
unidentified
I agree.
But my question is about the visions, you know, the boxes.
There were a lot of them that had dates in them that seemed to point like some of this stuff was going to happen in the 90s that never came.
Is it timeline, is it like a timeline blur or something there?
dannion brinkley
Well, you know what?
I keep sticking to the ones that didn't happen, which is probably, you know, when I look at it, it's like 15%.
unidentified
I'm not trying to nail you or anything.
dannion brinkley
You don't have to nail me.
I'm nailing it.
unidentified
I'm not.
I'm not nailing it.
dannion brinkley
Well, let's say we would nail it me.
I mean, you know, I could nail me.
Watch.
Because I miss stuff.
I was 25 years old.
unidentified
Right.
dannion brinkley
And I was from Aiken, South Carolina, and I had seen enough of the world.
And I'd probably been in 15 countries by then, about 12 countries by then.
16 countries by then.
And I knew the ropes.
You know, I wasn't just some dummy.
I'd been in the street, and I had seen a lot of stuff and perpetrated a lot of cosmic stuff, you know.
Okay, so I had to have the mentality to even get as well as I did.
And with the help of Paul Perry, I broke them down into boxes.
It was like 321 things.
And, you know, I wrote notebooks on this crap when I was trying to come out of it, and it would happen.
And some of the times after the near-death experience in that next seven months, I would visit all kinds of places.
But what I wanted to do is to put it down in a book form, which was saved by the light, that I just stood the test of time.
I couldn't interpret a lot of them.
I can see things that I did that I could change now as I interpreted 25 years later.
But I will stick with the 15% that I missed.
I missed a date.
Like when I was talking about the Syrians and the Chinese, they built the AWAC airplane, and they're developing what's called an 802C surface-to-land missile, which is probably as deadly as the finest launchable weapons or conventional close-range weapons, battle-theater weapons.
They got the best of it, and they were using the technology from the Israelis that was reported.
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you what, about that 15%, I'll tell you what, what you're seeing now, what we're seeing before our eyes now, I think that 15%, you're going to have 100% hit because it's just, really, when you look at it, it's all coming to fruition.
So do you see shortly ahead of us a real big bump before things get better?
dannion brinkley
Oh, man, listen, by the time 2004 comes here, what we have right now, if I'm right, what we have right now is 18 months to really put in a way to dawn a millennium of who we are, to set, that's why I have compassion in action, and that we just don't a millennium and set the mid-election terms of what's going on in this country.
One senator, strong thermostrum here, and seven or eight congressmen, and set the issues and set it so that the midterm will truly determine the next president of the United States and to do it across that four-year pattern, to put it all in place so that equal to when this planet's returning and the solar flare reaction, which I'm a devotee to solar flares.
And as these things happen, this is our golden opportunity.
unidentified
All right.
Thank you, Daniel.
art bell
All right.
Thank you, and take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, this is Dave from Columbia.
art bell
Hi, Dave.
unidentified
Hi, Dave.
Hey, Daniel.
dannion brinkley
How are you?
unidentified
Fine.
dannion brinkley
Thanks for being up and thanks for calling.
unidentified
Oh, I work nights.
This is what I do.
So nothing going on at the gas station.
The reason I'm calling is that I was going to call on that suicide issue, like you were talking about before.
However, you kind of answered that.
But the other thing I want to ask about is that, say you said that there was machines in like South Africa, and what was the other place that they were...
East Germany to talk to the other side.
Is this true?
dannion brinkley
Oh, absolutely.
art bell
Okay.
dannion brinkley
And art of art...
art bell
Let's go.
dannion brinkley
Your inner spiritual self.
Until you're a kid, now a lot of kids are killing themselves and that's our fault.
That's not their fault.
The kids that are killing each other and shooting everybody, that responsibility belongs to every American that's 25 years and older.
I mean, it's our responsibility.
unidentified
Yeah, because we all feel it when it happens, you know.
dannion brinkley
Yeah, and when we feel it, it looks like Colonel Biden and just all that stuff, but it's a failure on our part.
Those kids didn't feel anything.
They are not villains or all that stuff.
If you are under 18 years old, you might be crazy, but whatever's going on in you, there's something about that that we are responsible for.
All right, so, but I watch people in pain, so horrendous pain at the end of their life that it would be a mercy.
It would be glorious.
And I myself just hunt better chemistry to put that self-person in a place that they can still deal with it.
But death, you are a chosen spiritual being even in that damn gas station.
Oh, and you chose to come here, and you chose to come here, and you were chosen to come here.
And what is the greatness about us is we endure.
The style of character of the spiritual beings that we are as we enter this earth plane, our style is we can endure.
And maybe we were supposed to be gold miners, but we some hellacious, powerful, mighty spiritual gold miners.
And as we sit here tonight, suicide is out of the question, but no one is condemned for it.
Only the best of the best even got here to start with.
And what really goes wrong with us is we're not going to fail what we came here for.
We're not going to fail that.
But we have failed to find a system that we could recognize it is, which we would call religions.
And then we have to figure out what we want to do.
You choose to come and they're chosen to come.
And all my lectures and what I'm right about and what this next book, and I hope everybody waits for this next book.
It'll be done.
It's the last of the light books.
And it's explaining all this stuff, Art.
And then, you know, just Daniel.com.
But we have to get our job done and not judge anyone in suicide because that person just couldn't hack it or whatever it was that against them, they chose to leave.
They don't get condemned for that.
And we don't have to worry about that we're punishing ourselves because we're staying.
This is our job, and we will get it done.
And the time is now.
art bell
All right.
About the machines.
dannion brinkley
Oh, yeah.
As soon as you agree to do a program to experiment on them, we'll start talking about them.
I believe, Art, that here comes a time in the next few months as they refine these two new machines, that what Casey predicted and what Edison spent his last days trying to figure out how to do is how to construct it.
That these solar flares have created a magnetic pulse and a magnetic energy around the world, this Earth.
And it'll hold here.
And the quality of where these machines can tune, for the first time, it'll work.
And I know it.
I know it will.
And so I want to help merge this with the centers in a way that the fact that that other side exists and in different levels, there is a way at the near-depth experience that you can move deeper than most, but there are still ways here now that you can communicate and find your own reinforcement.
And that's the joy of this next four years.
art bell
There's a lot of signs right now, Dan, that the other side is becoming more apparent without any machines at all all around.
I think people are beginning to see some pretty strange things.
dannion brinkley
But look at the computer.
But I've seen people lift out of their bodies sitting at the bedside.
I've seen family members come getting them.
But for me, Art, because I'm there out of 296 times, I've probably seen something like this 15 times.
art bell
I got you.
All right, Dan, hold on.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
This is Diane in Sacramento.
art bell
Hello.
dannion brinkley
Hi, Diane.
unidentified
Hi.
Now I have a few questions or comments.
When you were talking about suicide, I was wondering if people did reincarnate and have to live through a miserable life if they committed suicide to get out of the life they were in.
I don't believe that.
dannion brinkley
I don't believe that.
I've never had anything that reinforced reincarnation to me, except that being around people like Brian Weiss and watching certain channels and mediums and people who, and reading literature and Winifred Lucas about past life regression therapy and stuff that Raymond has done.
This data, as I would look at it as Daniel Brinkley, with what I know would reinforce the fact that there are possibilities that you can come here more than once or twice.
But I don't believe it's for all that sin and you always have to keep coming until you get it right.
I just don't believe that is a part of it.
unidentified
Well, that's good.
Let me see now.
Speaking about mediums, I was just doing some fundraising and I happened to go by a business that it was a psychic reading business or something like that, fortune-telling business.
And she wanted me to go back.
She wasn't there when I was there.
And I was wondering if it's legitimate to go to mediums to see the other side or something.
dannion brinkley
Well, I mean, that's a matter of choice.
Are there mediums who are capable of doing that?
Absolutely.
And do you have to be really careful?
Absolutely.
You know, this is a very, I'm trying to create one of the, I have a place on this website called That Ain't Nothing.
And it's just the way I talk.
art bell
How do you discern?
dannion brinkley
Oh, you can, I'm a great debunker, Art.
I can watch them.
art bell
Yeah, that's how you do it.
How does somebody like this lady or somebody else do it?
dannion brinkley
I can't answer that, Art.
It's just too complex.
You have to find a whole system that you're trusted and you feel safe in.
You know, you can't just go into anybody.
I don't care if they're on TV or what they're doing.
It's an environment that creates that intuitive and empathic connection.
You know, I do that stuff all the time.
art bell
I can go anywhere.
I know.
I know.
dannion brinkley
Talk to the dead.
art bell
First time calling line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning, Mark.
Good morning, Daniel.
dannion brinkley
Hello, sir.
unidentified
This is Ed in Iowa, Texas.
I listen to you on WTAW at 1620 a.m. out of Bryan College Station.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
How'd it be, Ed?
I'm a paperman.
I'm out here seven nights a week.
I listen to this station overnight, so I've enjoyed it tremendously over the last two years.
Damien, have you ever done any research on the Coumadin that you're taking?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
I had to do some research on it.
I did back in 1990.
dannion brinkley
This cup will kill you, son.
unidentified
Yeah, well, my wife damn near dives on it.
dannion brinkley
Oh, no, it'll kill you.
And I take 30, 25, 20, 25, 30 milligrams.
art bell
Yeah, Coumadin is poison.
unidentified
Oh, it's a blood poison.
It's a basic chemical in rat poison.
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
It's decon.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dannion brinkley
And so I research it every which way.
What I've really learned to enjoy, Ed, is I have found these two companies who produce this diagnostics machine that does an analysis.
And I'm able to reduce the amount of cumbridin because they create this, it's just drops that I take, you know, aren't how I experiment with everything.
art bell
I know.
dannion brinkley
I will go and find it and sit down and set up as a strict a protocol and study as I can to watch me.
And I have seen the side effects of the Coumadin be reduced because of these drops I put under my tongue.
And this has been probably the most amazing thing that I have seen in the last 12 years on this side of the earth.
So Ed, I understand about being careful.
Did you have a question about Coumadin?
unidentified
No, I just wonder, you know, they won't even give it to my wife anymore because they were giving her as small as she could as they could.
And she was hemorrhage and internally she liked to die.
dannion brinkley
That's what happened to me when I had the third near-death experience.
art bell
In the brain, yeah.
dannion brinkley
Yeah.
But remember, those worlds, what I want to talk about sometime is the worlds that are being created.
You know, people look for purgatory.
In that blue-gray place in the third near-death experience, because of prayer art, I slowed down.
There was a slowing of my vibration.
And so as I moved from the blue-gray place to the tunnel, I discovered that there are worlds that exist there.
Remember, I used to be so frantic trying to figure out how to say this.
unidentified
I do.
dannion brinkley
We are creating levels, art, of places where people are getting trapped, like Sarah.
Remember Sarah and going through the tunnels?
art bell
I will never, ever forget Sarah.
dannion brinkley
Well, I think that Sarah, when I had the third near-death experience, those levels of consciousness that exist, that people can get trapped in and not go through the tunnel like I did twice, they can get trapped in, exist.
And it explains so much of what I would have never believed.
art bell
I mean, sometimes when we have time to get to that, I'm going to bring Sarah's NDE back and play it again on the air.
I'm going to get you.
Absolutely.
Listen, Dan, we're out of time.
So Danien Brinkley, P.O. Box 1919, Aiken, that's A-I-K-E-N, South Carolina, zip code 29802.
One more time.
P.O. Box 1919, Aiken, South Carolina, 29802.
And your email address is Daniel at mailexcel.com, right?
dannion brinkley
Yep, Daniel.com.
art bell
And of course, your website at danien.com.
All right, my friend, we have done it.
You made it all the way through.
unidentified
Art, thanks.
dannion brinkley
And next week is National Volunteer Week, so everybody volunteer and help someone.
And Art, thanks, and have me back sometime.
art bell
Say goodnight, Dan.
dannion brinkley
Good night, everybody, and good night, Bulldog.
There you are.
art bell
See you later.
That's Daniel Brinkley, and there's his story for you.
All right, folks, that's it.
Tomorrow night is Open Lines, and we're going to, I don't know, we'll just fool around with all kinds of things.
A typical Friday night, Saturday morning, or maybe there's no such thing as typical here.
I don't know.
But that's it for tonight from the high desert where the winds bloweth.
I'm Art Bell, and I'm going to blow it away out of here.
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