Art Bell and Matthew Stein explore California’s 46% electricity rate hike, protests, and unreported nuclear failures like San Onofre (2012), where 800 MW vanished. They link vehicle tech malfunctions in Bremerton to military EMP interference and question a Los Angeles UFO sighting. Stein’s When Technology Fails offers green building, micro-hydro, and biointensive farming—like Jevons’ methods—to slash water use by 80%—while Bell highlights America’s fragile energy grid amid rising oil demand. A caller ties a FEMA signal (10.085 MHz) to encrypted military radio, vanishing under scrutiny. The episode underscores society’s blind dependence on unstable tech and infrastructure, urging proactive resilience over short-term fixes. [Automatically generated summary]
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And every night it's true.
Beginning three hours before the live program, i.e.
now, we do prefeeds, the last three hours of the program from the previous night.
And I know that a lot of you get involved in the program, and then your little eyes begin to close because you have to go to work or something.
And you miss it.
So radio stations are capable of picking up three hours of the previous night if they find themselves with a need for good programming prior to this hour.
Well, California did it.
As protesters jeered, hell no, we won't pay.
Oh, yes, Will.
California regulators approved electricity rate increases up to 46% Tuesday to head off blackouts this summer and keep the state's two biggest utilities from going under.
Oh, but technology never fails, does it?
Right?
Technology, we can depend on that.
The increases approved 5 to 0, no dissenters by the PUC, are the biggest in California history and take effect immediately for the 25 million people served by Pacific Gas and Electric Company and Southern California Edison.
Would you be on one of those?
Probably.
The Commission President, Loretta Lynch, said, Lynch, huh?
The PUC has done all it can.
We fought back hard in every venue possible against these unjustly energy prices.
Unjustly high, I guess it would be.
PUC also ordered the utilities to pay the state for billions of dollars of electricity it has bought on behalf of their customers.
Just how much is not known?
The state has not disclosed how much it has spent.
To keep all of you power-hungry Californians satiated, satisfied.
Anyway, so they've done it and there will be a provision to force electricity hogs.
Are you a hog?
I wonder where they define hogishness when it comes to electricity.
If your bill is over $50 a month, are you a hog?
If it's over $100, are you a hog?
What about, well, $300?
You'd probably be a hog, wouldn't you?
And you know at $500, you're doing something wrong.
Oink.
So, they went and did it.
Congratulations, California.
And now, for anybody smugly sitting out there saying, well, I'm not in California, let them rotten hell out there.
Anything done in California is going to make its way across the United States.
You can depend on that.
So, your meter, too, will take on a life of its own.
By the way, we were talking about the blurring of meters.
And I noticed CNN, when they're doing the story on California's rate increase, they show this meter.
The dials are going around and around and around real fast.
So, there'll be no more blackouts, right?
Technology never fails.
Well, once in a while it does.
Listen to this.
Do you remember our guest last night talking about nuclear failure that we hadn't heard about?
at San Onofre?
Remember that?
Well, now, just look at this.
From the Nuclear Information and Resource Service, a significant accident February 3rd at Southern California's San Onofre No.
3 nuclear power reactor is a major cause of the rolling blackouts that have plagued California this week.
According to published reports, California has lacked up to 800 megawatts of power during the blackout periods.
When running at full power, San Onofre 3 produces 1,120 megawatts of electricity.
Had the reactor been operating, the blackouts almost certainly would not have occurred.
The accident occurred when a circuit breaker caused a fire that lasted, get this, nearly three hours.
A loss of off-site power and a reactor scram.
A related failure of an oil pump resulted in extensive damage to the plant's turbine.
The reactor is expected to be shut down for repairs for at least three months.
Although the utility claims no radiation was released, no nuclear safety issues involved, the Federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission sent a special inspection team to that plant to investigate the accident.
The NRC met with the SCE officials today to go over their findings.
The team's report is expected to be publicly released soon.
Quote, This is a serious accident, end quote, which has gone virtually unnoticed in the daily attention given to california's electricity problems well well well well Isn't that interesting?
But of course, technology never fails, right?
Sounds pretty serious.
Pretty serious, I would say, wouldn't you?
Considering it didn't get any publicity and you probably had to hear it here.
Just verification of what my guest said last night.
And then there's this.
Remember last night I told you about some sort of massive electromagnetic something up in Washington?
Do you remember?
It ended as suddenly and mysteriously as it had begun.
The mass failure of keyless remote entry devices on thousands of vehicles in the Bremerton Port Orchard area ended abruptly at about 6.30 a.m.
Monday as federal investigators had nearly isolated the source.
A government official familiar with the investigation by the Federal Communications Commission said it is, quote, very possible, end quote, that the problem could be related to the military presence in the Bremerton area.
The official who asked not to be identified said the abrupt disappearance of the interference could be related to the investigation.
The outage was believed to be caused by some kind of rogue signal from electronic communications gear that interfered with the functioning of the popular keyless remote entries.
So, pretty interesting, huh?
Sure is interesting to me considering the massive electronic failure, electromagnetic pulse, whatever it was that we had here, and I guarantee you we had something of that exact same nature.
Now, what do you suppose our military is out there doing anyway?
These very specific areas, Perump, Nevada, Bremerton, Washington.
How would you cause such a massive failure over such a large but yet actually geographically confined area?
Such a specific area, you cause all electromagnetic stuff to begin to stop working.
How do you do that?
Well, I suspect that our military knows.
Don't you?
So the Federal Communications Commission hiked on up there and it got very close to the source of the trouble, but didn't quite get there because, can you imagine this?
Just as the FCC is closing in on the source of the mystery, it quits.
Listen to this.
Dear Art, I work as a correctional officer at the Callum Bay Correctional Center.
At 2255 hours or 10.55 p.m. on Friday, March 1st, we suddenly had sporadic power failures in the automatic lock systems in our CMU facility, Medium Security, and rumor has it elsewhere.
The systems are on a separate power grid with generator backup.
In addition, several portable radios carried by our officers suddenly lost all power and were drained completely.
As if this was not enough, at least one CO's watch stopped dead at 22.55.
This is due to the same EMP blast that affected Bremerton.
Now, the interesting part of all this is the sporadic effects of the EMP blast that hit so many systems in our facility while at the same time not affecting others.
For some reference, Callum Bay is on the northwestern corner of the Olympic Peninsula, nearly 100 miles away.
no power disruptions reported in any of the cities between here and Bremerton.
Sorry, the person who sent this to me accused me of being one of the reasons.
Sleep-deprived workaholics.
And then this.
Although Americans do not appear to be shunning meat, many seem to be confusing foot-and-mouth disease with a much rarer and more dangerous mad cow disease.
Sure, I bet that's right.
But mouth is harmless to people, but mad cow can be a fatal human brain condition.
And people do need to understand the difference.
But I guess with the barrage of news they're getting on hoof-and-mouth from Europe and mad cow, and then, you know, the thing in the back of their mind, they only half hear the news, most Americans anyway, about the sheep.
You know, then I guess they're starting to freak out and not think real hard about it.
I think that's called panic, right?
Unknown object streaks across the night sky.
Something lit up the night sky off the Southern California coast late Monday, but nobody can say for sure what it was.
Initial reports were that a possible mid-air collision had occurred less than a mile out to sea from San Pedro, but thorough search of the area by the Coast Guard, sea vessels, and infrared-equipped aircraft turned up nothing.
According to a local newswire, witnesses reported a brief flash near Angel's Gate at the breach in the breakwater leading into the port of Los Angeles short of the night.
shortly before 830 p.m dispatcher for the coast guard said we got reports of the same thing from san luis bispo to san diego all up and down the coast a dock worker in san pedro told authorities he thought he had seen two airplanes collide los angeles fire department spokesman said it turned out that it was possibly some type
I don't mean to laugh but you know pull this story apart a little bit and look at it.
You've got two objects coming together in a manner that caused people who viewed it to believe that two aircraft had just collided.
It's seen up and down the coast but in the end they always say some kind of meteorite.
How the hell do they know?
They have no idea unless you actually get the rock the meteorite and hold it in your hand after it's cooled sufficiently because it's going to be real hot when it gets down.
Unless you've got something like that then I don't I don't see how you could possibly say some kind of meteorite with reports like this but inevitably that is exactly the way all of these stories end.
It drives me insane.
Maybe maybe meteorite is among the possible choices to explain what this might have been.
But it certainly isn't the only explanation is it?
What do you think the odds are of meteorites coming in at different angles from space heating up turning into flaming objects that meteorites become and then
then colliding in our atmosphere during the burn well i'd a whole lot rather try the california lottery than i would believe that but that typically is uh this sort of story all right faucets in central florida are going to run dry unless some heavy heavy rains get happening pretty quickly.
There was a meeting Friday of the National Emergency Response Leaders discussing how to keep the water flowing in the face of what they're calling the state's worst drought in history.
In history.
So again, obviously, the weather is going south on us.
The worst drought in the state's history.
Joe Alba, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, met with the Florida Governor Jeb Bush to try and decide what to do if conditions don't improve.
So they're literally saying that if conditions do not improve, you may, if you're in Florida, that part of Florida, you may turn on your faucets and nothing might come out.
Oh, but not to worry because technology never fails.
Right?
I'm Art Bell.
We'll be right back.
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Girl, to hold in my arms and know the magic of her charms.
Cause I want girls to call my own.
Dream lover, so I don't have to dream more.
Dream lover, where are you with a love for so true?
And the hand that I can hold with you here as I grow old.
For the whole girl to call my own.
I wanna dream of home so I don't have to dream of home someday.
I'll you, but you have love you miss whatever happened to my love.
I wish I had faith in love, but you could say you'd be a little bit of a city.
Can you hear me, darling?
Can you hear me?
It's so it.
The love you gave me, nothing left to save me.
It's so it.
When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
When you're gone, go outside.
How can I carry on?
How can I carry on?
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from March 27, 2001.
No, there's something, I think she was sending a signal to you from Regis Last year, because the only thing she would tell Regis is the movie wasn't done and it was about time travel.
Well, two friends of mine, they go to a local college, and what they did was they took three generators and they synchronized it with some kind of magnetic field.
I wouldn't, you know, if I thought somebody was crazy and I saw a big electrical apparatus and generators and an electromagnetic field, no doubt wound wire like crazy and a big mechanism and they'd say sit there and you sat there?
I was going to tell you in the Seattle Times, I've got some articles here in front of me that says, as an example, in today's paper, it says that Boeing is trying to get a contract for $320 billion for what they're calling a joint strike fighter.
I spent all day or all night last night and all day today until about 2 o'clock plunging and sticking things in there and trying to get it to drain and everything you could imagine and nothing was working.
So they came in and spent about an hour with their biggest.
So what you do is you use an amplified AM signal and you use a modified speaker that bounces a piston that's actually a coil that runs a generator in your electric vehicle.
So basically what you have is little solar-powered AM transfer stations that send out a pulse.
Well, my guest coming up in a moment is going to be Matthew Stein, who wrote When Technology Fails, the low-tech guide to self-reliance and planetary survival.
That's coming up, but technology never fails, right?
We'll cover a little bit of that, and I'll catch those who are joining this hour up in a moment, and then away we will go when technology fails.
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Coast A. I'm with George Norrie.
You know, we abruptly stopped going to the moon.
30-plus years where we haven't been back.
What do you think happened?
Why did they just stop?
When the Americans finally did land on the moon, they were actually chased off by exoterrestrials saying, Excuse me, what are you doing here?
Get off.
This is our place.
And probably scared the hell out of them.
That poses the question.
Who are these EPs?
And we need to start digging a bit deeper.
Now we take you back to the night of March 27, 2001, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Matthew Stein, who wrote a book called When Technology Fails, The Low-Tech Guide to Self-Reliance and Planetary Survival.
In the book, Matthew offers common sense advice and guidelines on how to prepare and cope with the inevitable disruptions, both natural and man-made, that are occurring and predicted to occur and increase in frequency.
Matthew Stein is an advocate of developing sustainable lifestyles, has researched and developed a directory of resources and instructional guides to deal with global and local changes that are affecting food, water, energy, shelter, health, and communications, as well as essential goods and services.
The guide provides something for everyone, from parents who want to help their families when disaster strikes, as it seems to do more frequently now, to the go-it-alone survivalist, and then the echo-minded person who wishes to tread more lightly on Mother Earth, whatever the future may hold.
That's kind of an outline of the book.
And I did want to read this to my audience here in the second hour of the program.
The headline is, remember Bremerton.
Remember all the remote keyless devices that stopped working?
Headline is, outages stop, but mystery remains.
It ended as suddenly and mysteriously as it began.
The mass failure of keyless remote entry devices on thousands of vehicles in the Bremerton Port Orchard area ended abruptly at about 6.30 a.m.
Monday as federal investigators, FCC people, had nearly isolated the source.
A government official familiar with the investigation by the Federal Communications Commission said it is, quote, very possible, end quote, that the problem could be related to the military presence in the Bremerton area.
The official who asked not to be identified said the abrupt disappearance of the interference could be related to the investigation.
The outage was believed to have been caused by some kind of rogue signal from electronic communications gear that interfered with the functioning of the popular keyless remote entries.
I've certainly, like I think many other people on the planet right now, have an uneasy feeling about what might be around in the future.
But essentially, for about 20 years, I've had a morning practice of prayer and meditation, and I'm a design engineer.
I have an MIT degree.
And I've often kind of asked for solutions to problem, difficult design problems.
And I've, you know, whether it's just my subconscious or somebody on a, you know, a guide in another plane helping me out in my meditations, I've often received patentable solutions to my difficult design problems.
About three years ago, totally out of the blue and completely unrelated to anything I'd ever thought of doing in the past, I received a title, scope, and a full outline for this book in an instantaneous flash of inspiration.
So it was at the moment that it came to me, my first thought was, I can't possibly do this.
This is a huge scope, and how could I do this?
And sort of the intuitional voice sort of said, well, you know, if not you, who?
And then I had the skills, the technical skills, and the communication and writing skills and the research skills to put this project together.
No, you know, voice of Charlton Heston out in the clouds or anything.
It was more like one moment it wasn't there and nothing like it was there in my mind.
And the next moment, an entire picture and scope and sort of outline of what a book was supposed to do, kind of like a hologram, sort of it had a picture of everything.
So certainly I had to go through all the effort of doing the research and the writing, but it was kind of like the big picture was there one moment and the moment before it wasn't there.
There wasn't a signature that said this is Jesus speaking or this is God speaking, but it clearly felt like a higher power of some sort, a higher inspiration, some kind of divine inspiration came through and said kind of more like instead of this is my idea,
this is my task, sort of like we on this side, on this, whatever side the inspiration comes from, where did Mozart play his music from, you know, I mean, et cetera, where does, how does one person on one side of the world have the Nobel Prize and share it with someone on the exact opposite side of the world for research that discovered the exact same new, brand new thing was done by totally unrelated people and totally unrelated parts of the world?
A lot of people have the feeling that something big is pending.
Something big lies around the corner and that, you know, everything's speeding up and we're really headed toward an event or events, that something's really coming down, put simply.
I do believe that we're headed for a series of events and possibly culminating in some major event.
I have been, as I've been writing the book, I'd start my day with kind of asking for guidance and direction.
And basically, I would rewrite everything I'd written the day before and then write some more.
And I did receive some specific instructions and information as I wrote this.
and some of the information I've received has been that there's going to be a large number of people who are going to need this book, maybe not tomorrow or the next day, maybe not even for a few years, but that in the not very distant future, probably within 10 years, there's going to be large numbers of people who are going to need this.
And in the meantime, there's going to be smaller numbers of people for isolated events that are definitely going to, What are you talking about?
Well, on the small scale, it's a rolling blackout or something.
It's still relatively small, and that the blackout's over in a little while, and things go back to normal.
On a larger scale, something like a massive hurricane like Hurricane Andrews or an earthquake, a significant earthquake like the Chilean earthquake in the 1960s, if something like that came through the L.A. Basin, it would be years before,
instead of basically snarling traffic and making things rather unpleasant for a lot of people and having a few hundred people have to bulldoze their homes, you'd have bridges down all over, you'd have business shut down, you'd have everything like Kobe, Japan.
It would just be, the city would be wasted for many years to come.
It would take many years to recover from an earthquake that was just a simple single point larger than the earthquake that ran through Northridge a few years back or the earthquake, the MoMA Prieta earthquake in the Bay Area.
Many people don't realize a single point on an earthquake scale is a factor of 10.
And when you have a building that's on the threshold of falling down, a factor of 10 can make the difference between minor damage and having to do the bulldoze remodel.
I have not had a specific vision of a future, but I have certainly I've accepted the possibility of something like the electromagnetic pulse from sunspots or some kind of solar event as possibly frying electronics in the world.
That would be the larger side, certainly, of scaling.
In that case, Matthew, you will be no doubt interested to know that right now we are having one of the largest solar events in recent history.
That right now, the solar count is at, well, it's way above 300, approaching probably 350, they're bracing for major class X flares, and the sun is just going poutwaki and spitting at us and spitting at us.
That's within the last few days.
Just thought I would sort of underscore what you just said about the sun.
The sun just went through a polarization flip, oh, I don't know, about four weeks ago, I think now.
And now on the other side of that flip, it's really going berserko.
And so, you know, there are scientists in Israel, Matthew, who believe that the dinosaurs were not killed by some big rock that smacked into Earth, but rather by a sudden flaring of our sun and radiation.
Yeah, I've also heard the possibility simply of a pole shift and causing a change in the radiation belts around the planet that allowed a huge amount of solar radiation to come down to the planet that the dinosaurs couldn't handle.
I mean, there's a lot of different theories and possibilities.
Certainly something like that is a possibility in my future, though I don't claim to have received specific inside information on that.
But I do believe I've been told that more and more people will be needing this book, both from the point of view of helping to become more sustainable on the planet and also from the point of view of being prepared in the event that some mid-range or long-range disruption in technology happens.
Yes, the weather is from a just, and again, this is Strictly from a scientific point of view and a systems point of view, if you look at the weather in terms of global warming and in terms of what we're doing to the planet to disrupt what's been a very stable system for at least recent geological history, then strictly from a scientific point of view, we don't really know what it's like we're experimenting.
It's a big, giant experiment with planet Earth.
We're pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases.
We've deforested half of the planet, and the trees act as a giant shock absorbers that help stabilize the system.
And we've cut, we basically, imagine if you took the shock absorbers off of one side of your car and drove down the road, what kind of response you'd get out of your car.
You know, you'd hit a corner and you'd bounce like crazy and you'd have terrible time staying on the road.
Essentially, we're doing that to the planet right now.
We're changing major variables like shock absorbers in the planet by both screwing around with the atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases and by deforesting the planet.
And we don't really know what the response is going to be other than that we know it's going to be far more unstable and increasingly unstable as time goes on.
And what that means is we're going to see bigger storms, worse droughts, worse, you know, hotter hots, colder colds.
You're just going to see crazy weather and increasingly wider swings and fluctuations of weather across the planet.
I've got a story here now that suggests Central Florida, if the drought continues in Central Florida, they're saying soon people will turn on their faucets there and nothing's going to come out.
I think people have gotten, since World War II in this country, people have become very used to a stable, reliable infrastructure that they could depend upon.
You know, the electricity pretty much flowed all the time or most all the time.
The gasoline flows, the trucks flow, the trains flow.
Everyone has gotten used to everything working very nicely and smoothly.
And I believe that we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg right now with things.
The pendulum is swinging the other way.
And with what we're doing to the systems of the planet, you're going to see much, much worse swings in the pendulum in future years.
I think in 10 years you'll look back at this time and say, boy, we thought it was bad then.
North Korea's state radio warned America yesterday that the scrapping of a 1994 agreement to help Korea build nuclear reactors would amount to, in quotes, a declaration of war.
No, that's what I do.
I laugh, too.
We get all these things, and so a declaration of war.
Well, you see, we agreed to give them nuclear reactors, and so basically what they're saying to us is if you're going to be an Indian giver, it's an act of war.
I've been designing products and machines for almost 25 years now.
And it always amazes me how non-engineers have such faith in technology.
I mean, when you think back to Ronald Reagan, he just had this wonderful faith that us engineers and scientists could provide this magic blanket that would never fail and would work perfectly.
Yes, and it would Star Wars, you know, that would cover the planet.
And just like in the movie Star Trek, we have our shields up and everything would be fine.
But the reality was that it was far cheaper to just make more weapons to totally overload Star Wars.
It was like a thousand times cheaper just to make more weapons to get through the shield than it was to make the shield.
And when something like simple, like an O-ring, can cause the failure of the space shuttle, then you can understand that these are incredibly complex systems that are running this planet right now.
They cannot figure out why it didn't turn into a Chernobyl.
I mean, can you imagine there would be no nuclear program in this country, that's for sure, if Three Mile Island had been a Chernobyl and we had had blowing winds of radioactive gases floating all over the country, you know, driving.
There would have been no Art Bell because I was real close to it.
You may have heard that last night.
I was there and I was listening to the local radio reports.
Hold on, we're at the bottom of the hour, Matthew.
We'll be right back.
Matthew Stein is here.
I'm Art Bell.
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From China I I did love, I bought the weep.
I made it to the top.
I did walk.
I have to give what did have to stop.
You've blown it all sky high by telling me a lie.
Without a reason why.
You've blown it all sky high.
You've blown it all sky high.
Thank you.
A very old friend came by today Oh, he was telling everyone that he was found And breathe the lady of the place He talked and talked And I heard him say That she had fucking hair The pleasant breathing of anywhere And breathe the lady of the
This is the latest thing.
Though I smiled, the tears inside were burning.
I wished him luck and then said goodbye.
He was gone, but still his words kept returning.
What else was there for me to do the cry?
Would you believe that yesterday This girl was in my arms and swore to me She'd be mine eternally And the reason made Of the latest thing.
Though I smiled, the tears inside were burning.
I wished him luck and then said goodbye.
He was gone, but still his words kept returning.
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You know, there's something different between this Elvis Presley record and every other, in my opinion, that he ever did.
And I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know it grabs me.
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Yeah, and as an engineer, I'm amazed that things don't fail more often, to be honest with you.
I mean, it takes a tremendous, when you get a real complex system, it takes just a huge amount of effort on a large team of people.
And in spite of your best efforts, things still do fail.
You know, it's not a perfect world.
Some of the other ways it might fail that a lot of people don't think about is, for instance, it's failing in many ways in the health systems right now.
When you consider that we're feeding huge amounts of antibiotics, roughly 10 times as much goes to animals as goes to people.
So what we're doing is we're creating a breeding ground for antibiotic resistant bugs within our livestock around the planet.
And with the constant use kind of, they're starting to back off on it now because they're realizing a lot of the antibiotics that used to be the wonder magic pills, kind of the medical fantasy of the magic pill, magic bullet that destroys the bug perfectly.
A lot of our wonderful antibiotics are now useless for the most part because of the overuse of antibiotics.
So one of the chapters in my book deals with alternative healing technologies, colloidal silver, grapefruit seed extract, herbal protein.
prayer a whole variety of different methods and certainly even today without any external apparent failure of technology there are many people experiencing health problems that are not responding to traditional medicines and they could find a lot of value and benefit within that chapter.
Well a lot of these bugs that you talked about that are developed despite the newest and greatest antibiotics that are fed to these animals also species jump.
So you know they go from the animals to the humans.
So far they say not true with the hood and mouth, but of course mad cow that's a whole different story that has species jumped and literally eats our brains alive.
I mean that sounds horrible, but that's what it does.
Well and certainly you know there's there's the contention that AIDS was grown in the lab as part of a biological warfare experiment.
There's also the Rolling Stone article contention that AIDS came from through monkeys in Africa and was imported as part of by accident because how do you look for something that you don't know exists that it actually came as out of the cultures that were growing vaccines and was then spread around Africa in the early smallpox or in the latest smallpox vaccinations that,
quote, eradicated smallpox on the planet, that possibly that was responsible for spreading AIDS.
But in any way, in any event, there are alternative therapies that appear to be very effective against AIDS.
But if they are not patentable and don't have potential to make lots of money, then there's not much, there's no effort really put into research on them.
I keep getting these notices in the mail that congratulations and why don't you spend a lot of money and buy some plaques because another one of your patents has just gone through.
So without actually logging on and seeing which patents that were pending have come through, it's somewhere around 10.
I do product and machine design on an independent basis, so quite a variety.
I was director of engineering for Haas company, and they make safety equipment and drinking fountains.
So I have a number of both design and utility patents.
One, for instance, on a blending, feel-safe blending system, again, to prevent technology from failing, which provides copious amounts of warm water for chemical drenches.
And for instance, a guy's in a chemical plant in Alberta, and he gets concentrated nitric acid, a fitting blows, and it blows nitric acid onto his Nomex vest, and it splashes up under his face shield all over his face.
And so he went into one of my polar showers and gets a warm drench to save his face.
Otherwise, he would have been a Phantom of the Opera kind of guy.
So I have several patents in that area.
I have a patent on a special stacking mechanism for dollar bills and things for the gaming industry that can handle everything from a small ticket to a very large bill from Europe, you know, really big, much bigger than an American dollar bill, and with one mechanism that can handle all of that.
Yeah, and then I've got patents on things like a new utility lighter, kind of like the new child lock mechanism for utility lighter, the lighters you light your barbecue with.
So they really cover quite a variety of things.
I've designed everything from disk drives to fiberglass buildings to drinking fountains to telephone headsets, to 30-foot-long assembly machines, quite a variety of things.
It's sort of they look at patterns and they look at the statistics and the complexity of things and they can come up with a percent chance of failure, which essentially means that there's always a chance of failure.
Like there's always a chance anywhere in the world of a super earthquake coming along and just knocking every building down.
But in many parts of the world, the statistical chance is very minuscule, but it doesn't mean it can't happen.
A lot of people don't realize the largest earthquake on record in America happened in the Mississippi, you know, happened in Missouri, changed the course of the Mississippi River for 100 miles and knocked down chimneys 500 miles away in Cincinnati, Ohio.
So it's a statistical prediction.
It's not like seeing something in a vision.
In other words, it doesn't really tell you when it's going to happen.
It just gives you a percent idea of the chance it might happen.
So you were inspired one way or the other, and we don't even have to know, to write this book.
And this book does what?
It says, if these things happen, if the weather really becomes awful, untenable, if there's a massive earthquake, if there's a flood, a drought, whatever it is, war even, I suppose.
That's correct.
Here's what you can do.
So you've been on the here's the problem and here's the solution side of it, right?
The book offers a wide variety of advice and solutions for everything from preparing.
There's a good chapter on emergency preparations.
Say you want to be prepared in the event that things go down for two or three days or maybe a week.
It helps you decide kind of what level of preparation you wish to be at.
And it's not just about emergency preparations.
It also covers things like green building technologies, how to build buildings which use less raw materials, contribute less to global warming, contribute less to deforestation, things like rammed earth, straw bale, modern adobe, passive solar design.
It also has a chapter on helping you to evaluate it in your own energy independence and plan and design a system to become more energy independent using renewable energy.
So you can, using the chapter, each chapter is very practical.
It gives you practical how-to information and introductory information.
And then it also provides you with a resource guide to the best books and sources for information and materials on the topic covered by the chapter.
So for instance, in the energy chapter, it gives you basic tools to evaluate your energy needs to kind of start planning a renewable energy system, a solar system.
Perhaps you have decent wind in your area.
It helps you Evaluate if it's going to be worth investing in wind or not.
Perhaps you have a creek and mini hydro or micro hydro might be the way to go.
So the chapter gives you a really good introduction to renewable energy systems and what you might be able to do in your own place.
Well, if you're really lucky, and let's face it, very few of us are going to be in this position, but you might.
If you had a creek that say had 10 or 20 feet of elevation drop across your property, then you could make, and you had a modest gallon flow, then you could make a small dam on it and run a pipe down and go through a micro-hydro turbine.
And that could provide you with totally free energy.
It would be, you know, runs 24 hours a day.
It's not like the sun.
You know, if you have a creek, it's a year-round creek.
You can't go out and dam a big river on your property, but if you've got a little creek, then there's no one to stop you or cause you any problems from making a small dam, a little pipeline, and running a micro-hydro turbine.
Most of us won't have the luxury of a creek that would provide you with micro-hydro.
But the book actually provides simple equations so you can evaluate what kind of power you might get out of your creek.
It provides you with information.
Now, what a lot of people don't realize, too, is the thing called megawatts.
That's what Amory Lovins coined that term a long time ago.
And what he was saying is that often it's cheaper to save and conserve energy, far cheaper, than it is to generate that extra power.
And especially when you're talking about a home power system, then like if you're going to run things off solar panels, well, those panels are pretty expensive.
You're talking $500 for something to run a couple of light bulbs.
And so if you replace those light bulbs with, for instance, you can replace five light bulbs with energy-saving light bulbs for the cost of $100 and save yourself a $500 solar panel.
So in the national outlook, the same thing goes true.
We could go out and do insulation programs and solar programs and rebates on energy-saving devices, and we could pay a lot less money than it actually would cost to drill more oil, generate more power with another oil or gas or coal-fired power plant.
And so most people, for a much more modest investment, a couple thousand dollars to start, they could do a small mini system to give them very basic backup energy in the event of a power outage.
And perhaps they could go to $10,000 and make something that could really start providing more of a level of comfort in the event that things go down.
And one of the nice things about these renewable energy systems is they're kind of tinker toy systems.
You can add modular blocks as time goes on.
It's not like, well, I put this money into the small thing, so it's wasted.
It's like, no, you can start.
You can add on as you have the time and the money, and then you can add more to your system.
And in the food chapter, the main focus is on sustainable agriculture, how to grow food.
So it focuses on grow biointensive methods, which are John Jevons methods.
And John Jevons has been referred to as contributing more to reducing suffering in the world than almost anyone on the planet because he has helped develop and spread the knowledge of these biointensive practices.
They're very low-tech oriented.
In other words, if a poor subsistence farmer in Argentina who's just scraping by can learn these methods that will rebuild the soil and that will use about a fifth of the water and will actually improve yields every year without chemicals and chemical fertilizers and other things.
And he will be able to turn his subsistence farm into a farm that provides bountiful for himself and his family.
And he does that through these methods called double digging, grow bio-intensive methods.
It's where it's a special soil preparation and it's heavy on organic composting.
And it's also a special way of planting so that you have more of a microclimate in the planting.
It requires far, far less in the way of watering.
So, for instance, there's some wonderful pictures in his websites of this guy in Africa and he's got just this brilliant smile and he's holding up these incredible looking grapefruits.
And you see this wonderful orchard behind him.
And the thing is that it was, quote, impossible to grow grapefruits at his location because of lack of water.
But using the bio-intensive practices, he was able to take an area that with traditional methods, it was just out of the question.
You couldn't grow an orchard there.
And he was able to grow it.
And he's just using his sweat.
You know, he's not using any high-tech methods.
This is just a poor farmer in the middle of Africa.
See, basically, modern agriculture is set up for the convenience of machines, and it doesn't duplicate nature very well.
Biointensive practices plant things on much closer spacings.
They do special extra-deep soil preparations that allows the roots to take the nutrients from the soil.
And because of the closed spacings and the extra deep things, you have like a mini-climate, and it conserves water.
You don't have the kind of evaporative losses of waters.
So if they were planted and treated normally, it would be too dry and the plants would die.
But because of the bio-intensive soil preparations and plantings, it conserves the water and the nutrients that are in the soil so that they're available to the plant and not just going away and washing away or evaporating out into the air.
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Music I've got a ghost photo on my website right now that's a real blowaway from Germany.
Take a look at it.
It looks like something out of Ghostbusters coming right out of that winery that looks more like a church.
It's an amazing photograph on my website right now.
Then Matthew brought up the subject of a creek behind your house.
And I'm going to tell a brief story.
I hope my mom's not listening in North Carolina right now.
We had a creek behind our house in Media, Pennsylvania, when we lived there.
And it was a pretty good creek.
We could have, if I'd followed Matthew's advice or known about it, we could have built a little boulder dam there.
But we didn't.
My mom was into projects when I was young.
Always had a project going.
And one day she had a vision.
She decided that since we had this creek running through our backyard, she would build a swimming pool right in the middle of the creek, virtually damming up the creek and then providing a way for the creek to run around the swimming pool on both sides.
So, of course, we did this, myself and my two sisters and my mom and my dad.
Let me tell you, for an entire summer, every day, we had pool duty.
And what that meant was we had to go out and we had to first dam up the stream, then we had to build this pool.
Oh, my God.
It was like slave labor.
Every day, all of us had to be out there doing this.
And it went on for the whole summer until finally we did it.
We built a concrete pool in the middle of this creek.
Blood, sweat, and tears, but we built it.
Oh, my God, did we build it every day?
It was horrible.
Anyway, finally, at the end of summer, when it was still hot and the pool was finally done, my mom opened the valves, and of course the swimming pool filled automatically from the creek.
The problem was that the creek running around the swimming pool kept the water at a temperature that I would describe as just above freezing.
So that, and then there were trees too that gave shadow to it.
So when I tell you the water in this pool was cold, I'm talking about turn your lips blue cold.
I don't care how hot the day was.
The water in this pool was always at or near freezing.
It was barely above freezing.
You'd go in there and your lips would be blue in about a minute and a half.
But my mom, staunchly every day, went down to that pool and went swimming.
And she would come back and her whole face would be pale and her lips would be blue.
She would kept trying to get us to go into the pool.
None of us would have anything to do with it.
That sucker was freezing and it always was going to be freezing.
So if there's anything you don't want to build in the middle of a creek, it's a dam and a swimming pool.
Do inventors, when they, like my mom, for example, when she built that pool, do they sometimes have a grand idea that turns out all completely wrong and not to work at all?
In other words, you construct an entire pool, but you forget there's a creek running around both sides of it, keeping it right at creek temperature.
There's a process to inventing and design, and typically, you know, when you're doing the right process, you do call a proof of concept, where you at least, where you don't invest tons of money in tooling and molds and things like that, but you kind of try to mock things up as cheaply and quickly as you can and make sure that the basic idea is right.
But sure, even then, you have ideas that sometimes you pour in tons of money into and they just don't pan out.
Yeah, I tell you, my mom was a marine drill instructor, and she would, every day we had pool duty.
I mean, it was like Revelle E in the morning, up, eat, pool.
And every day, all summer long, we did that, pool duty.
Anyway, listen, you have a lot of ideas.
You have a lot of notions about how people can keep themselves prepared for either a short time or, God forbid, a long time if something really horrible happens.
And I want to give the audience an opportunity to ask you some questions.
So we'll get to that shortly, if that's okay with you.
Even though I was born and raised Jewish, I'm really a mystical Christian at this point in my life.
But I don't really have blinders on.
I read different spiritual writings from all over the planet.
But what I'm saying is that when I asked kind of my intuitional guidance for what, you know, is there anything special they wanted me to say on the show, the answer I got was that this guidance is available to everyone.
There is no special favored people in God's eyes.
That basically what it says like in the Bible, ask and you'll receive, knock and it should be opened unto you, that kind of thing.
We're going to find out If you practice what you preach, if the worst were to happen right now, the power went out, communications went down, the roads were impassable, how would you fare?
You can, it's the green layer, it's the growing layer of the bark.
You know, the outer layer is no good, and the dead wood on the inside is no good for you.
You're not a beaver, you can't handle that.
But if you strip the green layer off and try not to do the whole way around the tree so you kill the tree, then you can cut it into strips and kind of boil it like spaghetti.
You can pound it into a flour and make bread.
Yeah, so it is something.
I mean, you could live for months on this stuff if you had to.
I'm not saying it would be much fun.
I'm not saying it would be a whole in a balanced diet.
Not exactly a culinary delight, but it will provide something in your stomach, and it will provide some energy for you, and you can subsist on it.
I mean, I wouldn't recommend it for the long run, but you can subsist on it.
And certainly, as far as collecting herbs and stuff, depends on the time of year.
Wintertime in Truckee and the high Sierras is what I think of as the hardest and the worst.
And let's face it, if something really goes down bad, the little furry animals that run around here, your chances of getting them when everybody else in the neighborhood's looking for them, it's not going to be really good after a while.
But there's lots of trees out there.
So the book does give information on foraging and information on what kind of animals you can eat, what kind of grubs and bugs.
I mean, again, not a culinary delight, but you can...
But, you know, to be honest with you, some of the advice in my book, things like if you've got these worms, if you dry them up and pound them up and put them in kind of like some stew, they're really not too bad.
But the other thing is, you know, when you look at the systems of the planet, if you wait until everything's fallen apart, then that's kind of, you know, there's the old saying that says, is it not too late to dig a well when you're already thirsty?
It's like you have to look ahead, look at where we're headed and make the change.
Now, right now, there's not a snowball's chance in hell we're going to make that change.
Now, how many of you, if you're strapped spending $50 a week, you know, you're driving a big car $50 a week.
Now, with the world oil production predicted to start declining within the next decade, no matter what anybody does, there's only so much oil in the ground, and the predictions are basically within a few years to 20 years, it's going to actually decline.
So you've got a world that's got a, every year they want more oil.
now, all of a sudden, you'll have Saudi Arabia, those places will be declining in oil production, just a simple matter of, you know, they've already pumped the easy stuff to get out.
And so now, say your bill goes up 10, 20 times what it is right now.
How many of us can afford to spend 10 or 20 times as much on our gasoline and heat as we're spending today?
Oh, I remember waking up at 5 in the morning and parking my car around the corner in the gasoline line just so that we had a spot reserved for when the pumps opened up.
And imagine now that you have a crisis like this that's not going to go away because, you know, you can't...
It's just plain not going to keep up with demand, and so the price is going to skyrocket.
I mean, that's coming.
And you can proactively, you know, Stephen Covey made tons of money with his book, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.
He studied the most effective people in the world and said, well, what are they doing that's different from the rest of us average Joes to make them so effective?
And one of the first things they did is they're proactive and they begin with the end in mind.
So what they do is they have a picture of where they're trying to get and then they do first things first to get there.
So in other words, they're having a picture of where they want to get and then they do these very effective things to get them from point A to point B. Now if our picture of the future is that we know that these things are coming energy-wise and we want a sustainable future for our world and we want a really wonderful climate for our children to grow up in,
we don't want a totally polluted world where everyone's dying of cancer, we don't want a world where no one can afford to stay warm in the winter, then they say, okay, well, let's picture the world we want and now let's map out a path to get from A to Z. Here's Z, which is like this good future which is sustainable.
I mean, you're talking about let's plan for 10 or 20 years into the future, or maybe even just five years into the future.
Hold it right there.
We'll be right back.
We're at the bottom of the air.
We are going to begin to take calls for Matthew Stein, who has written a book called When Technology Fails.
But we know, don't we?
It never fails.
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I do believe there was divine inspiration that inspired me to do the book.
I just didn't receive a signature when I got the inspiration, so I can't say it was Jesus or Buddha or God or whoever, but I do believe it was divinely inspired.
Just no signature, and I'm not ascribing it to any particular power, but a higher power.
So we should send all the nukes that we want to get rid of into these active volcanoes, plugging them up and launching, you mean launching nuclear weapons into the volcanoes?
I could see sending them into outer space to burn up in the sun or something, but launching them into volcanoes that are likely to blow their tops and spew radioactive waste all over the planet's probably not a really good idea.
One of the nice things about the book is it's a great CYA book, you know, Cover Your Behind.
You can have it on your shelf, and even if you haven't really prepared, if things go down, you will be way, way, way better off with my book on the shelf.
Now, whether it's just going down for a week, perhaps there's a hurricane, perhaps there's an earthquake, perhaps there's a terrorist act, perhaps just, you know, something causes the grid to fry for a while, whether it's two days or a week or a month or a year, you're going to be in much better shape if you have my book than if you don't.
Naturally, if you have the book, you might become motivated to read some of it and make some preparations so you're a little better prepared than just having the book.
But just having the book is a whole lot better than nothing.
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Right.
Which was my whole thing with Y2K preparation, you know, from listening to art show.
You know, I went out and got two years of food and all that stuff.
And some folks said, ah, it's just, you know, you just wasted your money.
But, you know, I didn't look at it like that, and I still do not look at it like that.
Who knows?
You know, you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, and there might be a great need for that in your life.
And just to get you over the edge, to get you through.
People asked me, what do you think is going to happen?
And I definitely had some stuff around.
I wanted to be prepared in the event that things went down for, you know, a week or two.
I thought perhaps something will affect the grid.
But in the long run, I feel that, yeah, I didn't think much was going to go on with Y2K, but I do feel within the next 10 years, you're going to look back at today and say, boy, remember when gas is this much and when you can just go to the grocery store and get everything you wanted anytime you wanted and all that stuff.
So I don't know when it's coming or what's going to cause it, but I believe you'll just see an increasing instability in things.
I say, if you want to understand how dependent you really are on technology, go outside to your breaker box, to your main breaker for your house or your apartment, whatever, and just throw your breaker off so that you have no electricity and go back Inside your house and spend, oh, I don't know, about an hour.
It's like living in a tomb.
No, it really is.
I mean, nothing works.
Television, radio, lights, all the things that you take for granted are suddenly useless.
And frankly, your whole apartment is more or less useless.
But I'm just talking about under average, even decent weather conditions, you go back inside that house with no power and you're walking around in a tomb.
Yeah, and you know, something that really brought things home, a couple years back, we had an earthquake, a shaker that went through that was centered about seven miles from my home.
And I sleep in my birthday suit, you know, with nice down comforters and stuff on my bed at night.
And it was middle of winter and trucky, and I woke up and was running around the house in my birthday suit.
And I thought, boy, if my house started collapsing and I sprinted outside in my birthday suit, tempolo, my car keys in the house, you know, no clothing, even my bare feet, it's like it really drove home how I needed to have supplies, preparations, extra food, extra clothing, extra keys outside of my home.
Imagine how awful it would be, too, if your house collapsed and there you were butt-naked outside without even your car keys and you had written a book called When Technology Fails.
I've got extra clothing and things stashed outside where in the event that we're an Earth trade country, I've got to consider that possibility.
Plus, I mean, one day, a couple years ago, I was sitting working at my computer, plugging away, and these friends of my son drove up and came in the house, looked at me and said, where's the fire?
And I said, what fire?
They pointed out the window, and I said, oh, my God, there was a 500-foot plume of smoke 100 yards from my house rising into the sky, and I could see flames through the woods.
And there wasn't, I mean, no sirens, nothing.
And I was just sitting there working at my computer, totally oblivious that if the winds were blowing the other direction, my house would be burning down within two to three minutes.
And luckily, the winds blew away from my house, and they were able to put it out.
But if they were blowing the other way that day, it would have gone right through the subdivision.
But I do know that we're basically reached the halfway point in our consumption of global resources of oil.
And half of what we've done in the last 150 years has been consumed in the last 30 years.
So we're consuming at an increasing rate, which means that the second half of the world oil isn't going to last nearly as long as it took to take the first half.
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Gotcha.
I'm kind of curious, in your book, do you give, I know you say you give preparations, but do you also give ideas of regionally, like what types of foods and things of that nature you may be able to find and identify with and prevent to like maybe mishap and grab a wrong type of food?
I know you were talking earlier about the barks and things like that off of the tree in your local area.
They're not very used to fasting and starving, and they're really used to getting things when they want it now.
You know, it's like, oh, I'm starving.
Where's the McDonald's?
I mean, I don't think that one of the scary things is what's going to go with people who are so used to having everything when they want it now, you know, in this country when all of a sudden they can't get what they want right now.
I think you're going to find a lot of freaking out people when they're there.
I mean, I fasted for over a week, so I know that I can handle it and deal with it for a significant period of time.
But most people don't have that kind of background and discipline and experience, and I think they're going to start feeling headache and nauseous within 24 hours of not having a meal, and they're going to have to have something.
First of all, about your book, how does somebody who really appreciates it and wants to get the news out to many others, you know, over here in California, talk about people freaking out, I think around July and August of this year, that's what's going to happen to a lot of Californians with no power.
Mr. Stein, you mentioned some inventions that intrigued me.
For someone who has hundreds of companies available, who funds and wants to create jobs and make good environmentally safe products and things, is there a way for a person to get a hold of you to discuss these?
You know, even if it was just for an ice storm for a few days or whether it's something longer, to just have it on your bookshelf, I mean, I urge people to read it because I think you'll find a lot of fascinating stuff in it.
And I think you'll open your eyes in many directions that you really weren't very aware of.
But to have it just in case it's, I can't think of one comprehensive book that would cover more things and help you out more than this book, just in case.
And certainly, each chapter has a resource guide.
So if you find you're intrigued by a chapter and you want to go further, then the resource guide at the end of the chapter will show you what book to buy.
Because to do a real in-depth on any one topic in a chapter requires a whole book in itself.
I mean, there's a lot in my book, but I couldn't do everything.
Well, I have it was three years from conception to publication.
I figured there's two years of labor in it, but there was a nine-month period where I basically pushed my engineering to the side, did about 10 hours a week in engineering, and I put 70 hours a week in the average into writing the books.
I couldn't afford to, until I had it, I didn't actually sign the contract on the book until the fall of 1999.
And by then, it was way too late for Y2K.
And I, you know, being a family man and having a family to support and a business to run, I couldn't just put everything on hold and rack up the debt until I had a contract.
Now, I did get a call.
Like, I talked to an agent and tried to sell him before anyone heard at Y2K.
And, you know, he wasn't too interested and told me to get my book, how to write a proposal, and all that.
And I put a lot of time in.
Then I got a frantic call from him in February of 1999.
And he said, did you write the book?
Did you get it written?
And I think he had million-dollar signs in his office.
If you've got it written, I can sell it for a million bucks today.
But it's like, no, you know, I've got a life to run and a business to run in a family to support.
So I miss Y2K, and everyone's thinking, oh, boy, you really blew it, buddy.
You missed Y2K.
But, you know, the book needed to be written.
The message needs to be out there.
And it's very appropriate.
And sure, I could have made a lot of Y2K, but I probably would have been forced to cut the book and not have the book I wanted.
Well, listen, considering what's happened since when we had this nice quiet period and The stock markets were all up and everything was rosy and we had money to, we were all arguing about how to spend the money.
And now all of a sudden, Y2K is becoming a reality in 2001.
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And the genius of phasing, Robert Sampler, sent it to me.
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I'm still considering, I'm still thinking about the 500 volcanoes and launching all of our newts into the 500 volcanoes.
And the guy in the first hour who disappeared when his three buddies turned on the field.
That almost sounds like another Madman Markham story, and we'll have to get the three friends on if he emails me at artbell at mindspring.com and get the whole story.
Just like if you fill up a tire, just like a car tire.
They have a unit that you can buy to have at home which fills it up overnight, or you can go to a station where for two bucks they'll fill you up, and that air will get you 120 miles for two bucks.
And they interviewed him on TV, and about three months after that, I saw a brief article in the Denver Rocky Mountain News about this guy.
And I mean, he speaks English.
He'd probably be a good interview.
And they showed him riding around in the car.
Right now they're promoting it as a taxi or delivery van because of the limited mileage.
Well, that's pretty good, I'd say, on compressed air.
It's a little hard to believe.
Now, they had these rockets that you can buy, these little rockets, remember those at home, and you pump them up with air and then put some water in as well, fill them halfway with water and pump them with air, and the rocket will go way the heck up in the air.
But trying to imagine that principle with just air applied to a car, you wouldn't think it would work.
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Well, it apparently does.
I saw the newspaper article how to draw it with four tanks laid side to side beneath the car.
And you would just fill it up with compressed air, and the force of air coming out, he described it as like a bedspring when you press the bedspring down and release it.
The energy from that being released powers the car.
And I have not heard hide or hair of this guy since that newspaper article at least three months ago.
And it's funny that I made a little pool out, got the kids around where I lived at that time in Virginia, you know, this Virginia around, and we made a pool in a little creek, but we didn't separate it out and make a cement like you did.
And they saw two objects apparently coming together, and they thought of a mid-air collision.
And I was wondering really hard earlier tonight how you could get from there to the Los Angeles Fire Department saying that it turned out that it was possibly some type of meteorite.
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Oh, they claimed that part of the rescue team, you know, some of the Coast Guard or the fire trucks, some of those people, the fire people, saw it in the sky before they got there.
And they put two and two together and said it must have been this meteor that someone saw that was on their way to the scene.
You know, I thought that was interesting that something like that could happen so close to Long Beach, you know, without striking something, you know, just coincidentally happening to go in the water that large.
It just seemed like it wouldn't be a small meteor to attract that much attention.
And I thought that that was just, it seems crazy to ship something like that, animals that are in question, because it's such a dangerous thing, all the way across the country to Iowa.
But then they also said that 90% of the babyback ribs that we eat in the United States are imported.
It would literally destroy the quality of life in America.
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It sure would.
It sure.
I would miss it terribly.
But I think it's going to happen.
I think that we're on the verge of releasing the fact that it's actually here in the United States because they were talking about two cases in the world.
And if you can't do it that way, do it any way you can and let us know how you did it.
The international line, toll-free, that's really important, toll-free, is 800-893-0903.
That's 800-893-0903.
Give it a try.
Now, somebody writes that the sheep in question went to Ames Island, not Des Moines.
I think that's right.
But he says they're not contagious.
And I'm not sure that's right at all.
As a matter of fact, according to the report by Linda Howe, Linda Moulton Howe the other night, who talked to an expert, it's going to be two years, two years before the tests are in on these sheep and before we know.
The engineer at KPUA Glenn in Hawaii, Mountain View, Hawaii, has just sent me a fast blast saying, hey, Art, 10.085 megahertz, loud and clear in Hawaii.
Note, second low signal blast halfway between the loud bursts.
I'll be damned.
That's the same as it was on 3.39.
It's not strong enough here where I am to be hearing the second burst, although I haven't run the beam all the way around.
I haven't run the log periodic all the way around.
But if they're hearing this very strongly in Hawaii, then I hope somebody in Alaska will quickly check 10.085 megahertz and see how loud it is in Alaska.
This is really interesting.
Looks like we've got them again, folks.
It's The same signal.
There's no question about it.
And what I just got from this engineer in Hawaii confirms that.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit, have you taken a look at the solar numbers?
Could they resist toying about with the ionosphere churned up as it is right now?
I'm not advertising it at the moment, but that's where my account is on Mindspring.
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I'm going to subscribe on the 7th, but if you have a commercial that because if you sponsor them, they'll give the second two months free, if I remember.
By the way, I've been off the grid for a long time, and it's really difficult, but if you keep accurate, you keep plenty of power, and if you watch how much you use.
It's going to bring a lot of people out here who otherwise would not have moved to Perump, that big four-lane highway, because now it's reasonable to commute to Las Vegas.
So we're getting a big influx of people from Las Vegas and a big influx of people from California, and they're all descending on Perump because it's a cool place.
You're not all the way through yet, obviously, but you are talking to me.
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Yeah, I had a question for Art.
Okay, what was it?
Well, he's never talked about certain things about cigarettes.
I feel like there's a lot of interesting stuff about tobacco and just what information is real and what information isn't real about health risks about tobacco.
I mean, obviously tobacco is harmful, but it seems like there's a lot of very intense anti-tobacco propaganda.
And sometimes I wonder, you know, what forces that are out there might want us not to smoke for some strange reason.
The question of what government or I don't even know if it's government forces, but what kind of propaganda might exist about cigarette smoking because of some wish that we don't have to do it.
I mean, I'm having this dream, and I wake up, and I'm like dizzy almost from feeling the earthquake in my dream, and I know it's not real, but you're in a capsule.
Well, maybe, then, you should consider your dream to be prophetic, and you should get a capsule and have it nearby, kind of like the mirror escape capsule.
A lot of children have had terrible, terrible childhoods and have risen up to be famous or extremely talented or, you know, it can go one of a million different directions.
I just don't know how you can try and pin it down to the parents.
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I would find them more responsible.
Again, like I say, back to that wrestling thing.
I mean, kids are getting maimed everywhere.
As a matter of fact, there was even a death not too long ago.
I appreciate the call, and I guess I'm going to take that as the final joke of the evening.
You have a good night.
You do.
All right.
Take care.
I don't know enough about George Bush yet to be bashing him, so I'm not really doing that.
It would be any president who would be in the White House right now as we face a power crisis.
I think it is horrendous, along with, in other words, what they're doing is fine.
Look to the oil and the coal, because in the short term, we're absolutely going to need it.
But at the same time, they should be saying, look, our job as a leader of this country is to look at what we're going to be using 10 or 20 or 30 years from now.
Therefore, let us begin now with solar and wind and other ways.