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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - William Thomas - Chemtrails. Peter Davenport - UFO Reports

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from March 14th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and or good morning, wherever you may be across this great land of ours, from way out west across the big line on the island of Guam, the rock, eastward to the U.S. Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, South, into South America, north, all the way to the Pole.
		This is Coast of Coast A.M. and I'm Mark Bell.
		And welcome to KIXW.
		KIXW in Apple Valley, California.
		960 on the dial there.
		Fill in a hole 5,000 watts.
		That means it gets up and goes.
		So, brand new affiliate, welcome to the network.
		KIXW, Apple Valley, California.
		Glad to have you.
		Well, it was sure a rotten day on Wall Street, wasn't it?
		And now Tokyo's docs are following suit.
		By mid-morning, the Nikkei was down 169.27.
		Terrible, terrible.
		And there are rumors of a Japanese bank going belly up.
		And that's kind of what drove Wall Street down.
		It fell 317 to close at 9973, under 10,099.73.48, 46 rather.
		NASDAQ slipped 42.68, held up rather well, considering.
		So it's getting kind of scary on Wall Street.
		And there are a lot of people having to come up with money to cover positions.
		And so they're starting to sell some of the blue chips is what's happening out there.
		We'll see where it goes tomorrow.
		All right.
		There have been some sightings around the Las Vegas area.
		Let me read you the following.
		All right.
		The reason I'm writing to you is I was wondering if at about dusk you happen to see a hunter-orange object.
		By the way, this description that I'm reading is coming from a rather highly placed political person here in Nevada, statewide.
		So I'm not going to give, obviously, any names.
		A hunter-orange object that if it was over the Spring Mountains where it looked like it was, was at least 300 to 400 feet across.
		This is what I saw.
		I live in Las Vegas, own a certain company.
		I was finished for the day and headed north on Town Center Drive time about 6.20 p.m.
		There was an orange light over Kyle Canyon, or it may have been further out, even Cold Creek.
		This is looking to the northwest.
		When I first saw the object, it was an orb.
		Then it elongated and separated like a slinky into six orbs, all the same size as the original.
		Then it recombined into one orb.
		I glanced away because I was driving and looked back.
		Did the same trick all over again, into six, back into one, in a horizontal fashion?
		Using Mount Charleston as a reference, I'd have to say the elevation of the object was about 9,000 feet above sea level.
		Did you or anyone else in the area see this?
		I continued to watch it and so forth and so on.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The answer is yes.
		I received a whole raft of emails of a similar nature, and so I thought I'd pick one and read it.
		But something happened here in the Las Vegas area.
		Including what happened to me Monday night, and I am not giving up on this one easily.
		I'm talking about the satellite so-called outage, the electromagnetic blanket that descended on me.
		I received the following.
		Art, good to hear you back on the air.
		About your satellite drop-off Monday night.
		I think there are powers that be that just don't want you talking about sensitive subjects, and this was just a subtle way to let you know that you're under some surveillance.
		Comes from a ham operator, Nightly Listener, to KVGOAM 1290 in Missoula, Montana.
		And then I received this.
		And this one's going to go up on the website.
		Make of it what you will.
		Dear Mr. Bell, this is a letter which has taken me two days to gather the courage to write.
		On the one hand, I have information as to how I and whom has cut your show on both occasions.
		On the other, a very well-paying job to protect and a family to feed and a friendship to lose.
		But after contemplating this matter for said time, I've decided that this country has nothing without freedom, be it press, speech, and the like.
		Two days ago, I spoke with a friend who works in a three-letter agency that begins with an N. He sounded really tired.
		And being near noon, this was very unlike him.
		I asked, did he not have a hot date the night before?
		He answered, no, I was working late with Team AB.
		What's that?
		I asked.
		He replied, you know that radio show you like so much?
		And being I only listened to one, which is our bell, I said, yes.
		He said, well, last night we had to slap his hand again.
		I then followed with, and why was that?
		He said A.B. was opening doors and topics on the air that just aren't good for this country at this time.
		And so we slapped his hand and knocked his butt off the air.
		Last time we slapped his hand for having a traitor line, he called it that.
		In other words, the Area 51 line.
		We go through a lot of trouble to have top secret personnel sign secrecy agreements in our country's Best interest, and AB openly invites them to break the laws and oaths they have taken.
		Bottom line: AB makes trouble for us, but we make trouble for him.
		I then asked, How do you knock him off the air?
		He said, We have control over all media links, and although we used a different method the first time, it's just as easy as opening your garage with a push of a button.
		It's getting the order that's hard, making the call when and where, as AB pretty much pushes the border every night that he's on the air.
		But last night he was just going too far with names and things said in NASA's area that were well into the area of national security.
		One of the names given as a source for information will not be so willing to speak openly again after today.
		He then said he had to get off the phone.
		His wife wanted to use it.
		End of call.
		A couple things I've deducted from the phone calls with this friend.
		One, this agency has a group of people called Team AB, whose job is to listen to my program every night you're on.
		Well, glad to have you along.
		We can use all the listeners we can get.
		My comment.
		Two, a name given on your show, the night the show was cut from the air, will not be so open with David Sarita in the future.
		Three, a comment was made in the fashion of we hear everything AB does both on and off the air.
		In other words, bugs.
		Well, bugs in my house, huh?
		He said later over a beer after softball that same night, we got AB from space.
		This time, next time, we'll have an EMP truck at his location to even handle AB's backup signal.
		He said EMP with a very evil grin.
		Then he will really learn his lesson.
		I've never written a show before, but we need to have freedom in this country without Big Brother's thumb upon the button.
		I may lose a friend over this letter, but I did what I feel was right.
		God bless.
		So, you know, this could be totally made up, baloney, or not.
		But, oh, one other thing.
		HAARP was operating the night that the outage occurred.
		HARP was indeed operating.
		We've got all the links.
		Speaking of HAARP, I just received this art on Wednesday, February 28th, 2001.
		My wife was doing some shopping.
	I was sitting in the car listening to the radio.
	The news came on, and a meteorologist came on to give the weather.
	He stated that California was bracing itself for a big weekend storm that was harp-induced.
	I was shocked to hear him say the words harp-induced.
	And I'm here to tell you that we had a real rainstorm.
	Well, yes, of course, Ventura County had flooding.
	The whole state was drenched.
	But bottom line, he says the weather guy, the meteorologist, said harp-induced.
	A comparison of satellite data from 1970 and 1997 has yielded what scientists say is the first direct evidence that so-called greenhouse gases are building up in Earth's atmosphere and allowing less heat to escape to space.
	The study contains no evidence on whether Earth's surface temperature is actually increasing.
	In fact, whether this greenhouse effect will lead to global warming or global cooling is unclear, said the scientists.
	This is because the greenhouse effect could start a cycle in which more clouds are formed, stopping the sun's energy from reaching Earth's surface in the first place.
	This is an Associated Press article, folks.
	So what they're saying is, we're definitely into the greenhouse effect.
	Whether it's going to end up heating or cooling us, they're not sure about yet, but they are sure that the greenhouse effect has already begun.
	Now, next hour, we're going to have Will Thomas here, and we're going to do one whale of a show on chemtrails.
	And contrails, I suppose.
	And there is some shocking new evidence that Mr. Thomas has tonight.
	And as we're discussing, you know, the greenhouse effect, let's consider George Bush's Big Story Associated Press headline, Bush won't regulate carbon dioxide.
	President Bush said Wednesday he backed off his campaign promise to regulate carbon dioxide emissions because of the country's energy problems and not because of pressure from industry lobbyists.
	So I guess it's read-my-lips time here, huh?
	So he's backed off his promise to do something about carbon dioxide emissions.
	He said, I was responding to realities, and the reality is our nation has a problem when it comes to energy, said Bush, reiterating that he fears limits on carbon dioxide emissions from power plants would increase electricity prices.
	So how do you think that bodes for our future?
	If the president already, this early in the administration, has decided to renege on a promise to cut back on emissions in favor of keeping everybody, and I know nobody likes a high power bill, right?
	But how does that bode for our future?
	Probably not too well.
	We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's an interesting headline.
		Nevada population grows 66%.
		Workers flocking to new Las Vegas resorts helped boost Nevada's population during the last decade by a whopping 66% tops in the nation according to the census figures released on Tuesday.
		So now we're really up there.
		I mean, this is ridiculous.
		And here in Perump, Little Perrump, Nevada, where I live, we're in double-digit growth.
		We are the fastest-growing small town in America.
		It is astounding what is going on here.
		absolutely astounding i thought i would uh...
		Late in the program last night, a lot of people have been asking about my wildcat, Comet, who is now three-quarters of the way toward becoming a normal cat.
		I mean, you can actually handle him without fearing for skin removal, instant skin removal.
		And, you know, he'll sit on my lap now.
		You have no idea what a long transition that is.
		He was absolutely feral.
		Spent six months living in a bathroom because he couldn't be near human beings, and then it went on from there.
		Comet has learned to hate cameras.
		I don't know exactly what it is, because I used to be able to take photographs of him when he was a kitten, or sort of just coming out of kittenhood.
		But now, there is no way you get anywhere near Comet with a camera.
		Even if you hold it behind your back and then you slowly bring it out, he knows a camera 10 million miles away, and he will take off at 10,000 miles an hour the moment he sees any kind of camera, digital, regular, 35 millimeter, it doesn't matter what it is.
		He knows a camera in the hand is probably going to mean a flash in the eye, I guess.
		So he takes off.
		He hates cameras, and I can't take any more photographs of him.
		But he doesn't know about webcams.
		You see, I have a room that is simply covered with equipment.
		I mean, there is equipment everywhere.
		Broadcast equipment, ham equipment, computer equipment.
		You know, this place is, well, it's a control room.
		It is a control room.
		Somebody sent me, incidentally, a very nice sort of copper radio room thing from a ship, and I put that on my front door.
		It says radio room.
		At any rate, there's so much equipment in here that a webcam, even though it's a camera, to Comet is not a camera.
		He doesn't know it's a camera.
		It's just another piece of equipment here, and he's not afraid of it.
		So I brought him in here last night toward the end of the program and held him up for a photograph.
		And I got a pretty good one, too.
		It's on my webcam right now, and I'm going to leave it up there for a little while so you can see it if you want.
		This is Comet, what, a year and a half, two years later or more, that wild beast of a cat that I've got.
		Incredible.
		A compliance officer for the U.S. Department of Agriculture was expected to be in Fayetteville today to look at John Fairley's glowing chicken bones.
		Thus far, nobody else can explain why the bones are glowing.
		Not police officers, firefighters, county health workers, doctors, nor nurses.
		Fairley says he went outside Tuesday night to feed some leftover chicken to his German shepherd, Tasha, when he happened to notice the bones were glowing green.
		He called the Army Medical Center and then, of course, the Fayetteville police and probably every other agency in town.
		Quote, they had very little faith in my rendering my report at first, Fairley said.
		When the police officer came up my driveway and saw them glowing at him, 18 vehicles were stacked around my house in a short period of time.
		End quote.
		Fairley lives on, well, I won't give this street, in the Fox Fire neighborhood off Morgantown Road on the city's west side.
		Captain Greg Arnett of the Fayetteville Fire Department said he's seen some strange things in more than 20 years of fighting fires in Fayetteville.
		Parrot named Greg in a tree and pythons in a basement, but this was the ultimate.
		So let's think about this for a moment.
		Why would chicken bones glow green?
		And if you picked up a piece of chicken and it was glowing green, would you eat it?
		Well, no.
		What could possibly be worse than that?
		And the answer is you eat your chicken, you start to carry the bones outside for your dog, and you notice they're glowing green, the now nearly empty chicken bones, like the old, what could be worse than, you know, a worm in an apple?
		Half a worm in an apple, is the answer.
		Anyway, Tasha apparently ate some of the bones before Fairley realized that something was wrong.
		That night and on Wednesday, some of his family and friends said they felt nauseated.
		Well, of course, if you ate green chicken, blowing green chicken, and you found out about it, you'd feel sick, all right.
		Tasha was sluggish.
		Clinton Weaver, a spokesman at Cape Fear Valley, said that seven people who ate the chicken were treated and released.
		The hospital did not conduct any tests on the bones, so we're going to have to wait and find out what the real story on the glowing chicken bones is.
		But I'll be interested in a follow-up when we get it.
		I'm sure you will too.
	Finally, this sent to me, which is pretty funny, I think.
	A man walking along a California beach was deep in prayer.
	All of a sudden, he said out loud, Lord, grant me one wish.
	Suddenly the sky clouded.
	His head clouded.
	And in a booming voice, the Lord said, Because you have tried to be faithful to me in all ways, I will grant you One wish.
	The man said, okay, build me a bridge to Hawaii so I can drive over any time that I want to.
	The Lord said, Your request is very materialistic.
	Think of the logistics of that kind of undertaking, the support required to reach the bottom of the Pacific, the concrete and steel it would take.
	I can do it, but it's hard for me to justify your desire for worldly things.
	Take a little more time, please.
	Think of another wish.
	A wish you think would honor and glorify me.
	So the man sat and thought about this for a long time, as he certainly properly should have, asking for such a materialistic thing as a bridge to lie, for goodness sakes.
	So he thought about it.
	Finally he said, Lord, I wish that I could understand women.
	I want to know how they feel inside.
	What they're thinking when they give me the silent treatment.
	Why they cry.
	What they mean when they say nothing.
	And how I can make a woman truly happy.
	Several moments of silence went by.
	And finally, the booming voice of God said, You want two lanes or four on that bridge?
	I understand that.
	It'd be easier to build a bridge to Hawaii than it would be to understand women.
	Nobody's ever going to do that.
	All right, well, we're going to do open lines for the next half hour following the commercial break at the bottom here and information or whatever you get on your local station.
	And then we'll be back.
	By the way, I'm still waiting for the photographs from the LA trip.
	When I get them, you'll get them.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		on this somewhere in time on this somewhere in the world.
		I'm doing alright, a little jiving on a Saturday night.
		Come walk me, run a dime a day away.
		Jenny was me, she always smiled for the people she needs.
		I'm troubled and strange, drive I know the way you get through I know we get to you What can I do?
		What can I do?
		I'll never remember my time again I love you.
		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14th 2001 walking into his house about five minutes before airtime so he missed me read the description of this thing in Vegas is Peter Davenport at the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And because this comes from somebody in state politics and because it represents one of about a dozen exactly similar reports that I have, I'm going to read it again so that Peter can hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's on the line right now.
unidentified		Then we'll bring him up because he's got news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It reads, Hello, Highwayman.
		That's me, I guess.
		Art.
		The reason I'm writing to you is I was wondering if at about dusk you saw a Hunter-Orange object that if it was over the Spring Mountains, that's where I live here, where it looked like it was at least 300 to 400 feet across.
		This is what I saw.
		I live in Las Vegas and own, and he names the company, I won't give it.
		I was finished for the day, headed north on Town Center Drive.
		The time was around 6.20 p.m.
		There was an orange light over Kyle Canyon, or if it was further out, maybe even Cold Creek.
		This is looking to the northwest.
		When I first saw the object, it was an orb.
		Then it elongated and separated like a slinky into six orbs, all the same size as the original.
		Then it recombined into one orb.
		I glanced away because I was driving and looked back.
		It did the same trick all over again, one into six and back into one in a horizontal fashion.
		Using Mount Charleston as a reference, that's the mountain directly behind me that you'll see on my webcam sometimes, I'd have to say the elevation of the object was about 9,000 feet above sea level.
		Did you or anyone else in the area see it?
		I continued to watch it, and after the last recombination, it just plain winked out of sight.
		I don't know.
		Please get back to me on this.
		Well, again, I will not read his name because he is somebody who would be hurt by giving this kind of a report.
		That is representative of about a dozen of exactly the same thing.
		That's why I read it.
		So something obviously happened again near me.
		But this is not the only place where things are going on.
		In a moment, Peter Davenport will comment, no doubt, on what I just read and then has some more information for you.
		Stay right there.
unidentified		Screams
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coast to Coast AM From the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington, here is Peter.
		Peter Davenport, welcome.
		Did you hear what I read?
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art.
		I heard it, and I'm not surprised by it, but I almost jumped out of my skin by the color that was cited in this report.
		I think it was burnt orange or something like that you mentioned.
		That color has been the color of choice, no pun intended, in a number of reports that have been coming to us over the last, I would estimate, two to three weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, he called it hunter-orange.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Hunter-orange.
		I don't know what that object was.
		It sounds very strange.
		Of course, the first thing that would have to be done is we would have to rule out any kind of military activity or anything like that.
		But it does sound very unusual to see one object turn into several and then have them go back into one object.
		I think you described there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Twice, actually.
		Yes.
		Yes.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		And the reason I find it so interesting, too, is we had a similar event over Puget Sound last night.
		I have been working like a slave all day long talking to witnesses to yet another dramatic fireball event over Seattle, very similar to one that occurred last April 28th, Friday night last year, about two days after you had started your sabbatical.
		But last night, we have taken now over half a dozen reports from actual eyewitnesses to this event.
		They saw an object roughly yellow to orange that streaked the length of Puget Sound, at least from South Seattle up to North Seattle, a distance of about 20 miles.
		I can only estimate the distance it covered, but I estimate that it covered that distance in probably 15 seconds, judging from the reports of people.
		And it's a similar color to the one that is cited in the report you read over the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what's going on, Peter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Very similar report to what this gentleman wrote to not only a week ago from Belleville, Wisconsin.
		It's about 30 miles southwest of Madison in the southern part of Wisconsin.
		We will be posting newly received reports to our website database tomorrow afternoon, and people will be able to see the myriad of reports that we have received recently, but very similar in description from Belleville, Wisconsin, of multiple orange or red or yellow objects in a straight line moving across the sky.
		I am not in the least surprised by this individual's report, even though I'm quick to admit, Art, that I have no idea what he saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I know it was quick and spur of the moment.
		I really appreciate your coming on the air, as always, Peter.
		Let's get the information out very quickly.
		Donations are what keeps Peter alive.
		Keeps him going.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of coffee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that and a lot of coffee.
		National UFO Reporting Center, $10 or $20 donations are very welcome.
		It's a tax-exempt Washington state organization.
		And this is where you get this kind of information.
		So, make out checks to the National UFO Reporting Center.
		And the address, Peter?
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		The address is the National UFO Reporting Center.
		Next line is PO Box 45623.
		45623.
		Next line is University Station.
		And that is Seattle, Washington.
		ZIP code 98145.
		And those people who sent those reports, if they would like to record them to our online reporting forum on our website, ufocenter.com, I would be grateful, Art, and we will post them anonymously, of course, to our website database, and all of your audience will have access to them, and they can see what people have reported.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bless your heart, Peter.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		Good night.
		All right, that's Peter Davenport at the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
		So maybe we've got kind of a flap going on here, and these things seem to go in cycles.
		Maybe we're on the upside of a cycle at the moment.
		All right, to the lines.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Ernest.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		From Seattle.
		My name is Ralph.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Ralph.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time call, Ralph?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then you are legitimately on this line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
unidentified		I just wanted to ask you a question.
unidentified		I didn't catch the complete show with Kathleen Keating the last time she was on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I just wanted to know whether or not she had made any kind of comment to what Father Martin, may he rest in peace, had said about that we are expected to see the worst of things happening within the next seven years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, as a matter of fact, she said that all of this will begin to come down in a handful of years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That means within five, at least terrestrial hands.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Within five years, it begins to come down, she said.
unidentified		Okay, let's answer the question.
unidentified		Have a good day, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hardy, Hardy.
		Let's see.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How are you doing tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Yeah, this is Dean in Tampa, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Dean.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You'd mentioned George Bush Jr.'s reaction to the carbon monoxide emissions, how he's renaming kind of like the read my lips situation like his father.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Read my lips and hold your nose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Exactly, sir.
		I think it's such an amazing thing right now when we look at just the fact that this is truly his first act of, how you say, not taking care of what should be taken care of properly.
		I mean, our Mother Earth is such a delicate balance.
		And I think for us to actually increase the actual damage that we're doing and actually letting the big business do this, it's almost at the point now where I used to live in Alaska, and it's truly the last frontier.
		And when I see frontiers like that, even down here in Florida, I see how a big business has affected the environment.
		I think this is definitely a wrong move.
		And it goes to show you that truly the almighty dollar is not actually running the country in common sense?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think in between Tampa and Orlando, you recently had a pretty big fire raging, didn't you?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you had a pretty big drought down there where it ought to be raining a lot, huh?
unidentified		Oh, this is very true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So things they are changing, and I think it has to do to some degree with what man is doing, not necessarily entirely, but to some degree with what man is doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so for him to be reneging on his first big promise about emissions, well, that's kind of insane, if you ask me.
unidentified		Yes, sir, and I'll tell you one last thing.
		When I was in Alaska, I saw firsthand what the global warming has done.
		I watched a glacier disappear five miles in one season.
		And actually, after 2,000 years, that glacier only moved a quarter inch a year, and then suddenly it just disappeared.
		So it's a big thing, and it's something that's happening to us all.
		We see that with our polarized caps, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I lived in Alaska, and I saw everything you saw, and I know they are retreating, and they will be gone very soon.
unidentified		Well, I just hope we're not next.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
		Well, we're somewhere in the chain of things.
		You know, when we talk about various fish and die-offs and, you know, things changing and predators beginning to go after new prey because their old prey doesn't exist anymore, that sort of thing.
		Well, we're in that chain.
		We're one of the dominoes.
		And maybe some in our domino are a little taller and they can look over and they can look over to Paul the Dominoes and they can see the collapse coming their way if you follow me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Turn your radio off, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguish it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then speak.
unidentified		Am I on now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Cleveland, Ohio.
unidentified		WTAM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WTAM, the monster, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, I had a comment about last night's guest in Kathleen Keating.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Thompson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Thompson last night.
unidentified		Yes.
		He was claiming that the flood, 3,100 B.C. Yes.
		I think there's too much evidence that it wouldn't have happened then.
		And I'm thinking on the lines that maybe the flood is what caused the ice age or a glacier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think a flood would cause exactly the opposite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would turn everything into kind of a temperate climate because you'd be storing more energy.
unidentified		I think maybe the flood is what caused the beginning of another catastrophic thing of the ice age.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, during the period of time that the rain was coming down or whatever caused the flood was occurring, yes, maybe then, certainly.
unidentified		Because if you go by the theory that they think there was a vapor barrier and the Earth climate was the same all the way around the Earth, and then the flood came, there had to be weather change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big time weather changes.
unidentified		Maybe that's where, you know, there was so much water over the earth and places froze, and that's what created the glaciers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that could be.
unidentified		Okay.
		And then the ideology.
		A lot of people called up and said ideology that's wrong, blah, blah, this and that.
		He keeps defending it.
		I read the Bible myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like a picture of Jesus, for example, on the wall?
unidentified		Or statues, this and that.
unidentified		Things made by men paying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but there are idols, see.
		They're okay because they're Christian idols.
		There are idols.
		It's other idols that are idol idols.
		No, I can't agree.
		It's like the Taliban.
		You know, the Taliban in Afghanistan.
		They look at Buddha and they say, oh, look at that idol.
		It's not their idol.
		It's not God.
unidentified		People worship these things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but again, sir, Christ is our idol.
		He's our guy.
		He's the Christian's idol.
		But if you were to take, let's say, a figurine of Christ to Afghanistan, hey, good luck.
		They wouldn't think of that the way we think of that.
		They'd begin gathering the blasting caps and dynamite, and you'd just have to get out of the way.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, how are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm reasonably all right.
unidentified		You guys changed your format.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
		Nothing new about that.
		I've been saying it for years.
		It's going to be inscribed on my gravestone.
		Turn off your radio.
unidentified		There used to not be any screeners on this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I called last night to...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's only me.
unidentified		Who is this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art.
unidentified		This is Art Bell?
		Yes.
		I'm on the radio right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, son of a gun, you are?
unidentified		Oh, darn it.
unidentified		Well, anyway, hey, Dr. Thompson last night?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Dr. Thompson, he has quite a few good points.
		But, you know, I have a whole bunch of books from prior to the first of this century.
		They were written, and there were a number of very good studies done on the existence of the Atlantean and the Murian continents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And one I have right in front of me here is...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think all of us, at least that listen to this program, the majority of us, believe that there were other civilizations that came before ours.
		We argue about whether it was Sitchin's way or Thompson's way or forbidden archaeologists' way.
		But we all pretty much agree there may have been stuff that's come and gone.
unidentified		Okay, that's true.
		But there were geological studies done prior to, during the 18th century, or I mean during the 1800s, which right now in the center of the Atlantic Ocean, there is a ridge called the Dolphin Ridge, which was discovered by a British ship called the Dolphin.
		And this ridge extends from the Azores Islands, which Ignatius Donnelly claims was the center of the Atlantean Empire.
		And it extends all the way from the Azores Islands up to almost to Great Britain.
		Now, across from Great Britain to the American continent was also part of this.
		And this was the land bridge from Europe into the Americas.
		And this barrier there is what he says caused the ice age because there was no Gulf Current.
		And I mean, it amazes me that more people don't study these older geographical studies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what catches me.
		If civilization has achieved some level of scientific advancement several times in the past, been more or less squooshed, then, well, we're doing pretty well right now.
		If you don't look at the stock market, we're doing pretty well right now.
		Yet the weather is beginning to turn terrible on us.
		No question about that.
unidentified		And it's a question of whether or not we are having an impact on it, or if it's a normal cycle of the impact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got to ask yourself, do you feel lucky this century?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, something's going to happen.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something's going to happen.
		All right, sir.
		I really appreciate your call.
		Yeah, I think there were others.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguish, extinguish your radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You turn turn that off.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Oh, it's on the internet, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Well, then you're on your computer.
		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Lubbock, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lubbock, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's everything in Lubbock?
unidentified		Hey, Lubbock's pretty good today.
unidentified		Is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		We had like a mini sandstorm, which is, you know, nothing to us.
unidentified		It was a nice day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A mini sandstorm.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To Lubbockans, it's nothing.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's up, anyway?
unidentified		Well, what I wanted to talk to Art about was I wanted to question him about his statements that he has made about he is not able to make a leap of faith.
unidentified		You know, when he's talking to Catherine Keating or even Ed Dames, you know, different issues will come up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean you would want to say to Art that he you question the fact that he can't believe in, say, God or make that final leap of faith.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		What I wanted to ask you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you know, I really couldn't put you on the air with art to say something like that.
unidentified		Excuse me, what did you just say?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said I couldn't put you on the air with art to say something like that.
unidentified		And why not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you're questioning his ability to make a leap of faith.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's a sensitive guy.
unidentified		You couldn't.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know that lately Art has been a little depressed over some things, and he could break out in tears, right, and public radio over something like that?
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, you surely couldn't expect me to just slam you on the air and let him ask a question like that.
unidentified		Yeah, this is very intriguing because I know him from listening to him that he's not someone who's going to break out in tears over something like this.
unidentified		I think that's what I'm saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's feeling very that I'm trying to.
		You've got to understand, I work with him, and he's emotional tonight.
		He can't handle it.
		I'm telling you.
		But I mean, you would go on with him anyway, huh?
unidentified		Well, no.
		Well, I would go on with him anyway in this sense.
		What I want to know, because I'm a parent, and I know he's a parent, and I know he has, like, he's undergone some excruciating, unbelievable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't want to remind him of that, would you?
unidentified		No, I don't want to remind him of it, but I want to ask him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you'll have to call her tomorrow night.
unidentified		I want to ask him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you're not listening to me, there's no more time tonight.
		You'll have to call her tomorrow night.
		He'll be in a better mood then.
		All right?
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		I know it's not acceptable, but we're simply out of time.
		I'm sorry.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		more somewhere in time coming out by your side You've been wrong, I've been rushed in long
		You want to begin with you for me.
		Thank you.
		When in the springtime of year, When the trees are crowned with leaves, When the ash are look and their birds anew, Are dressed in ribbons fair When hours cold,
		The breathless moon in the moving of the night The shadows of the trees appear And meets the lantern light We've been traveling all the night And sometime on this day Nothing turning back again We breathe upon again
		Who would go down to the sea?
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the High Desert.
		Good to have you.
		It's been a while and about a million people have requested it.
		So tonight, the subject of chemtrails, revisited.
		William Thomas is no stranger to this program.
		This veteran award-winning journalist has made five guest appearances with him.
		With me since I began covering chemtrails for the Environmental News Service in January 1998.
		That's William talking about himself.
		Since our first show, he says, the author of Scorched Earth and Bringing the War Home has documented the results of his 26-month chemtrail investigation in his book, Probing the Chemtrail Conundrum.
		William Thomas has also co-produced a 27-minute video showing some of the best chemtrail footage I've seen anywhere.
		This broadcast quality documentary presents convincing documentation pointing to a secret government program aimed at averting the kind of climatological chaos that Whitley and I describe in the coming global superstorm.
		Now, later in the program, I'll be giving Thomas's website, that's actually linked to ours right now, so you can get it right now, and a toll-free number for ordering his book and video.
		You decide whether the theories you're about to hear make sense.
		Of more pressing concern is the absence of official admission that anything out of the ordinary is taking place in the skies over the U.S., Canada, and other allied countries.
		Since the Chemtrail story broke right here on this program, more than two years ago, officials have insisted that these bizarre aerial plumes and patterns are simply condensation trails from normal airline traffic.
		Tonight, their denials end forever.
		William Thomas has agreed to come back on the air to reveal here for the first time a major breakthrough in Chemtrail's credibility.
		He's on the line and shortly will be the person whose persistence resulted in the first official admission that these mysterious clues have nothing at all to do with normal airline procedures.
		So don't go anywhere.
unidentified		the whole story lies directly in front of you Mario You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, he's an investigative journalist.
		He's been on this story for years now.
		And we're going to backtrack, obviously, for just a few moments at the beginning of the program.
		For those who are new listeners to the program and have no idea what chemtrails might be, we're going to sort of back up.
		And I know it's painful for those of you who are probably too well informed on the subject, but it's necessary because we've got a zillion new affiliates, a zillion new listeners, and they have no idea what this is all about.
		William Thomas, welcome to the program.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A pleasure to be back with you tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I know, and everybody knows, what a contrail is.
		It's condensation that aircrafts produce at a very high altitude.
		It leaves a puffy little white or another behind it under the right conditions.
		It can linger for a little while, but it usually dissipates and goes away.
		And that's what follows a jet aircraft.
		And we've seen them all our lives, I think, most of us anyway.
		There are a few out there who might not remember when there were contrails in the sky, but not too many anymore.
		So we know what contrails are.
		What in the world got you on the track of chemtrails, what you're calling chemtrails?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Back in January 98, I received a call from the managing editor at Environment News Service.
		I've been working with them for a number of years, including filing reports from Kuwait immediately after the Gulf War.
		The managing editor there, Jim Crabtree, asked me to check out a report from a Mr. William Wallace out in Washington State.
		He's on the eastern side there in the mountains, living very remotely with his wife, and he was reporting large four-engine jets laying criss-cross patterns of persistent white plumes in clear blue skies overhead, turning those skies into a milky haze that completely obscured the entire area.
		And further, he said, seemed to be making he and his wife very ill.
		I didn't really know what to make of that report, but when William Wallace sent me his videotape, I realized immediately as a former pilot, member of the military, an ocean sailor conversant with skies and normal contrails, that the images on his video were anything but normal condensation trails.
		And Mr. Wallace turned me on to several individuals in California and out in Tennessee who had also been tracking this phenomenon.
		And after I contacted them, they in turn led me to other people.
		And before too long, Art, I had over 1,000 eyewitness written reports, including statements from pilots, police officers, and former military personnel, all very perplexed at these lingering white plumes, which you accurately describe could not have been normal contrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I did describe kind of what a normal contrail is.
		How is a mother to know the difference between a normal contrail and a stinky chemtrail?
		What is the visual difference?
		And I've experienced it myself, so I could do this, but you're the guy.
		So you tell me, what's the difference?
		With the people's eyes, with their nose, with what they can see, how do you know it's a chemtrail, not a contrail?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A normal contrail most often appears as a pencil-thin white line behind a high-flying aircraft.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And as we watch it, it fades like the wake behind a boat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does, of course, spread out a little bit from the original thin contrail, right?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Depending on conditions, that's right.
		In fact, it could spread out quite a bit, though normally and most often Canadian aviation officials and U.S. authorities tell us condensation trails behind aircraft disappear within 50 seconds of being formed.
		So the big difference, and we often see this now as we observe the sky closely, is we will see a normal thin contrail at high altitude and below it, at lower altitudes, thick smoke-like plumes that billow out and do not dissipate, but in fact spread to cover the entire sky.
		And that's the tip-off.
		Ours, if we see a condensation trail at higher altitude than a plume lower down, we know something is amiss because in fact just the opposite should be true.
		The higher you go, the bigger the contrail form because it's colder, the higher we fly.
		So these plumes that are below condensation trail altitudes are very suggestive.
		I also caution people not to phone airport authorities or other officials unless they see more than one of these lines.
		That's the other major tip-off here.
		When we are seeing multiple parallel rows, grid patterns, or X's, we know immediately these are not airliners because except immediately around airports, airliners must maintain a separation.
		And these parallel lines are often formed way too closely to that would violate air rate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would you imagine, William, just out of curiosity, that the X pattern or the crossing pattern of these chemtrails would be important as opposed to just parallel lines?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As an example.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		My surmise is that the characteristic X's that we are seeing all over North America are used to mark the spot in satellite photographs.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		They are very distinct in these photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, absolutely.
		From satellite, you'd be able to see them very easily.
		Now, I had, since we seem to be a nice testing ground here in my part of Nevada for just about everything in the world, my wife and I had an experience.
		Gee, it was a couple of years ago at least, William, and I think I described it to you then and briefly again.
		It was a beautiful, clear, sunny day, very dry here in Nevada, typically desert weather.
		Beautiful day, as a matter of fact.
		My wife and I were both outside.
		And here comes the X patterns.
		And we had some X's up there.
		And instead of doing what a contrail normally does, these began to turn from white to kind of a dirty color.
		And moreover, the beautifully clear, dry day here in the desert suddenly turned to one where at least half the sky, or better than half the sky, was now covered with kind of a dingy colored, almost a brown-colored gunk that appeared to come from these damn so-called contrails.
		Now, on top of that, the air began to take on kind of an oily, icky feel to it.
		And then my wife and I both got sick as hell for a while.
		That happened to us.
		Is that normal or is that abynormal?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		It's normal in terms of chemtrail experience.
		Many observers report a metallic taste in their mouth, the smell of oil or petroleum refineries.
		None are in the area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We got oil.
		And believe me, we have no refineries anywhere near us.
		This is a very clean community that way, and just a valley unto its own.
		But I saw the sky transformed, Will.
		I saw it transformed, and I got sick from it.
		And I have no question in my mind about that, nor does my wife.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Some of us have almost driven our cars off the road when observing these trails wearing sunglasses, and we have seen prismatic bars of color in these trails in the sky, indicative of a petroleum or chemical signature.
		These are not sun dogs.
		These are not moonbows.
		These are brief bars of color.
		In fact, they've even been photographed.
		And that's another telltale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me be a skeptic and say, look, airplanes are flying.
		They use petroleum products in airplanes.
		Maybe that would account for some of it.
		Why shouldn't I believe that it's just, you know, some sort of petroleum byproduct from an airplane?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		One of the most startling aspects of this entire story is, as you mentioned at the top of the show, we are used to seeing contrails and airliners all of our lives.
		Many of us live near airports or air bases.
		And again, I am receiving thousands and have been for years, thousands of emails from people who are grabbing their neighbors, their friends, their spouses, stopping their cars, going outside, and pointing at the sky and pointing cameras at these strange plumes that we thought we understood.
		So obviously there is something very unusual going on here.
		And for the skeptics out there, you mentioned the high desert country.
		Clifford Carnicum, who has been researching this story, as you know, for also quite a number of years, has made a significant contribution, as far as I'm concerned, in coming up with official meteorological data showing temperature and humidity at varying altitudes over Santa Fe, New Mexico on the days when heavy gridding was observed and photographed.
		And this data shows conclusively that the temperature and humidity at those altitudes absolutely prevent the formation of condensation trails.
		We need temperatures, according to NASA, of minus 40 degrees centigrade or less, and we need a humidity around 70%.
		And as you know, in the summertime in the desert, You're not going to find those conditions even at the altitudes we're talking about, 25,000, 30,000 feet.
		And yet these plumes form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's typically where they're formed, 25, 30,000 or better.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So this is what we have.
		Now, imagine, folks, what sort of incredible conspiracy there would have to be for this to be going on in the skies across North America.
		And by the way, Will is in, you're in Canada, Western Canada, right, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm on the West Coast, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it would have to be a conspiracy of massive proportions.
		There would have to be all kinds of secrets kept.
		You would think all kinds of people would know at least something.
		You would compartmentalize something like this, but a lot of people would know.
		And so one question would be, where are all the people who ought to be out there rotting this one out, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them are frightened.
		This is a national security issue.
		The penalties we've seen during the Vietnam War include lengthy jail terms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's funny you should mention that.
		The one only question that Ed Dames, a remote viewer, has regularly, absolutely refused to answer is what contrails are.
		And you know what he says when you ask him, when you really push him about it?
		He says, Art, I don't want to go to jail.
		That's the one thing that you've asked me about over the years that I just, and I still, and I won't comment on because I don't want to go to jail.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And, oh, where are we now?
		Eight years ago, I wrote a book called Bringing the War Home, and this book fully documents the biological war that took place in the Gulf, the hidden secret war.
		It documents the origins and causes of Gulf War illness.
		Nearly 10 years later, the mainstream media is coming out with stories verifying the information I presented in that book.
		It's taken that long, Art.
		And, you know, we don't have, we have a corporate-controlled media here that simply is not going to report any story that does not fit their mindset or any story that contravenes any kind of security issue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in fact, to prove that, I have in front of me a USA Today story, which we'll read after a while here, which was written after, I guess, USA Today interviewed you, is that correct?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		For at least an hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For at least an hour.
		And oh my, what they came up with.
		I think the audience is going to be fascinated by this.
		But after the bottom of the hour, we're going to do something kind of interesting.
		We're going to talk to a fellow named Mark Porter.
		Who is Mark Porter, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Mark Porter is a resident of Victoria, British Columbia, the capital city here in B.C. on the west coast.
		And Mark has been watching intense aerial gridding and X's and circles over that coastal city for at least two years.
		He became acquainted with me through my website and through the shows we've been doing.
		Art, he's been one steady listener.
		And last December 8th, Mark Porter made a call to the Victoria International Airport to express his concern over massive aerial activity over that city during the previous two days.
		And he received a very interesting reply.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, the reply came from, without his name yet, although we're going to give it, the reply came from the Victoria Airport Authority.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what you have up there, I guess, is airport authorities, huh?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		This used to be a government body.
		It's now what we call a Crown Corporation under government auspices.
		This particular individual is the manager for airport planning and environment.
		It is his job to know about pollution from aircraft.
		So he was very interested in the call he received from Mark Porter.
		And this gentleman made some inquiries, phoned back, and left a message on Mr. Porter's answering machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, by the way, I would like to add that it was a very odd answering machine with a very odd tape.
		And somehow the tape and the answering machine got separated.
		And you had the tape, and you said, oh my God, you wouldn't believe what I've got, but I can't find a tape machine that'll play it back.
		It's an odd-sized tape, somewhere in between micro-cassette and whatever the next size would be, I guess, an in-between size.
		And right up until about, I don't know what, 24 hours before airtime, we didn't think we'd be able to get this on the air, but we actually have the recording, don't we, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		We have the recording back with its machine, which made the courier truck as it was leaving the loading dock as we track this man down who owned the machine.
		So we're ready to roll.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you call this the smoking gun evidence that people in government positions know something?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		After we go to air with this, there'll be no backing away into airliners and contrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, what we're going to do is break here at the bottom of the hour.
		And when we do get back, first we're going to talk to Mark Porter.
		He's the man who made the call.
		But then the airport authority got back to him and answered him.
		And at first, by the way, denied that they had said that, but then later said, no, I'll stand by the statement I made.
		So an official from the Victoria Airport Authority, well, you'll hear it for yourself coming up.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about chemtrails, not contrails, chemtrails.
		Things crossing our skies with chemicals in them.
		And by the way, we'll discuss exactly what's in them because we have some information about that as well.
		But in a moment, coming up, we've got Mark Porter, a man who took action, put up with this long enough, and finally decided that's it, and made a phone call.
		And surprisingly, from the government in Canada, they called him back.
		They actually called him back.
		It was short, it was sweet, but it certainly was meaningful.
		So that is what's immediately ahead.
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		Art Bell Somewhere in Time Let's now, Will, are you there?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		Let's go to Mark Porter.
		Mark, good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there, Mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Victoria, B.C. All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did you first hear about Will and Chemtrails and all that?
unidentified		Well, actually, I think I heard the first broadcast on your program.
unidentified		I guess that goes back a few years now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly does.
unidentified		But I was aware of the activity in the sky probably going back two years before that.
		Just became aware of it, was noticing it, thought it was very strange.
		And when Will Thomas came on your program, that's when things all began to make sense for me.
		The activity in our city goes on, I would say, weekly, sometimes several times a week.
		In the summer months, there were times when for weeks at a time they would be doing it every day, laying down parallel lines, sort of a tic-tac-toe formation sometimes, where they'd be crisscrossing.
		And recently, I would say in the last year or so, large X's are being laid down right in the center of the city.
		The other thing I'm noticing as well, and I haven't heard too much about this, but I'm seeing circular formations as well that are forming.
		A plane is just essentially doing a circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you in an airport pattern?
unidentified		Well, there is an airport close by in Sydney, which is probably 20 miles away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that might account for a circular pattern.
		Who knows?
		Sometimes you have to circle.
		Anyway, you've been noticing these so-called chemtrails for a long time.
		Obviously, when you heard Will, that reinforced something you were probably wondering about, and you went, oh, my God.
unidentified		Well, the issue for me really was the fact that the material would not dissipate.
		I would notice that it would spread out and remain in the sky for hours at a time.
		And oftentimes, by the end of the day, we'd have a white mist in the sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any physical effects?
unidentified		I have at times.
		I can't say directly in effect as a result of the spraying, but I've noticed over the last few years tired, sometimes a sore throat that doesn't seem to go away, but lingers for months at a time.
		And I talk to people who certainly seem to be having illnesses that are prolonged and aren't going away.
		I'm not going to say there's a direct correlation there, but certainly there appears to be something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There may be.
		There may be.
		Certainly there's something weird happening in our skies.
		All right, so it must have been one day when you saw a particular pattern or something obviously more than usual motivated you to make a phone call.
		What happened that day?
unidentified		Well, that's exactly it.
		I'm aware of the basic formations and patterns that they make, but this particular day it was so excessive.
		It was extremely excessive.
		And I found it so disturbing that I knew I had to make a call.
		I'd made calls before and had been essentially brushed off.
		I was told that there was actually nothing in the sky flying over areas.
		I would get on a pay point or whatever, call them up, and they would say, well, there is no planes that we're aware of that are flying in that area.
		So I was always brushed off in the past, but this day I just felt that, you know, I'll make another call because all of those particular formations were present in the sky this day.
		And I could see as many as three planes at one time Making formations, all within a short distance of one another.
		And they were just flying around up there, moving back and forth and doing their thing.
		And I thought, you know, this is so obscene, this is so disgusting and disturbing that I have a responsibility to make a call here.
		And let's just see if something will happen.
		And so I spoke with one gentleman, can't recall his name, but I began to describe the situation to him.
		And he wasn't surprised.
		He essentially indicated that they were aware of it, but they didn't know what it was.
		And I described one of the planes that was flying, and he indicated to me that what I was describing was a military aircraft.
		It was a large white plane with a red marking on the tail.
		And I wasn't able to see any other markings on the plane, but the red on the tail was very evident.
		And he mentioned that he thought that was military, but he suggested that I speak with someone else.
		And so he forwarded the gentleman who left the message on my answering machine to me.
		And so I spoke with him and essentially described exactly what I was observing, what I was seeing, and the fact that I was very disturbed by this, and I thought that there was a responsibility for some investigation into it.
		And so he told me that he would get back to me in short order, and in fact he did.
		And so he called back.
		I was not home at the time, but left a message on my answering machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the gentleman you're talking about is a man named, and we can give the name, right, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Terry Stewart of the Victoria Airport Authority.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he made a very short and sweet but telling return call to Mark.
		And so if we can do it, Will, let's play it for the first time.
		Here's a return call that came to Mark from Terry Stewart, Victoria Airport Authority.
unidentified		Go ahead.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		Mark, it's Terry Stewart, Victoria Airport Authority.
		Just calling you back from your comments.
		Altogether, it's a military exercise, U.S. and Canadian Air Force exercise that's going on.
		They wouldn't give me any specifics on it.
		Hope that helps your interest.
		Very odd.
		Thanks a lot.
		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope that helps your interest.
		Very odd.
		So, obviously, and again, this man, Will, is in charge of the environmental aspects of the airport and what airplanes do environmentally.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Mostly noise pollution, he told me when I phoned him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Noise pollution, yeah, that would be odd.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But any other pollution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		any pollution right when you first called mister terry stewart back uh...
		will uh...
		when you thought you didn't have When you thought you didn't have a tape, you talked to Mr. Stewart.
		Is that correct?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
		Mark had played the tape over the phone, so I did hear it with my own ears.
		And I called Mr. Stewart and identified myself as a journalist covering this story for quite some time and asked him if he, in fact, had made that call.
		He said he had, and if, in fact, it was a military exercise.
		And he said that it had appeared to be a military exercise.
		And of course, we heard on the tape an emphatic statement, this was a joint U.S.-Canadian Air Force exercise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And he agreed to stand by his story and actually offered to investigate further.
		And he made some follow-up inquiries and had the door slammed quite firmly in his face.
		It's the official policy of the Canadian Defense Department in Ottawa to never comment on military operations in Canada.
		And when I phoned the Comox Air Base, which is located quite near to where I live here on Hornby Island, I spoke with Lieutenant John Copard, who told me emphatically no such joint operation exists.
		Again, that standard military doublespeak to deny an obvious operation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we obviously ran into an honest government guy.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Terry Stewart.
		And so I guess he said what he said.
		You all just heard it.
		As a matter of fact, rewind that sucker and let's play it one more time.
		Mark, what was your reaction?
unidentified		Well, I was quite frankly, I was sort of startled that I received that response and proceeded to contact Will and really quite happy, actually, that at least there was some confirmation that this was not regular, how would you say, commercial airliners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually, yeah, the answer would be, well, they're airliners and they're contrails.
unidentified		Now, let me mention one thing.
		These flights that are occurring over our city are typically, and I can't say for sure, but they appear to be around the 10,000 height mark.
		10,000 feet, I should say.
		These are not 30,000 feet in the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty low for anything.
		Obviously, that's not cruising altitude for a commercial airliner.
		There's no question about that.
unidentified		No, and they've also mentioned to me at the airport authority that a regular contrail dissipates in 5 to 45 seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		And you can watch that happen on most days.
		Mark, you're a real trooper for coming on the air with us.
		I really want to thank you.
unidentified		Well, you're very welcome.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		Good night, Mark.
		All right.
		One more time for posterity.
		For those who might not have gotten the whole thing, it happens pretty quick.
		Let's do it one more time, Will.
unidentified		Here we go.
		Mark is Terry Stewart, Victoria Airport Authority.
		Just calling you back from your comment.
		We're together.
		It's a military exercise, U.S. and Canadian Air Force exercise that's going on.
		They wouldn't give me any specifics on it.
		Hope that helped your interest.
		Very odd.
		Thanks a lot.
		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very odd.
		Thanks a lot.
		Bye-bye now.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Yes.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		But of course, what isn't very odd is the U.S. and Canadian militaries have been conducting joint exercises almost monthly for decades.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And it's striking that this particular exercise is very odd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, let's try and cover a few of the basics again.
		What do we know about what we think might chemically be in these chemtrails?
		I know that you've had some samples from the sides of buildings that are fairly clean, that sort of thing.
		What do we know?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, let's clear up a misconception right off the top here.
		The lab samples of fungus and bacteria, that is living pathogens that can make people very ill, all of them have come from rooftop-level drops from propeller-driven aircraft over Utah primarily, also Michigan, Pennsylvania, and a little town called Espanola in Ontario.
		Armenia Cassani, a colleague of mine, has done stellar work investigating these incidents in person and personally conducting the sampling and assuring quality lab tests.
		I believe this to be a separate program.
		This is, again, low-level spraying that we have the pathogenic material identified.
		Speaking to chemtrails, that is the higher altitude laydowns, to use the military jargon, of these plumes, we are fortunate to have, again, an independent lab sample from Ontario of rainwater that fell through heavy chemtrail plumes.
		In fact, a gritting that was so persistent, more than 550 residents of this small town signed a petition art.
		They took it to Parliament, to the Government of Canada in Ottawa, and insisted on an explanation and cessation of aerial spraying by what they claimed to be U.S. Air Force tankers.
		Now, the U.S. Air Force denied it.
		The Canadian government never got back to them.
		But these citizens claim that their children and adults in a 50-square-mile area were becoming ill because of this high-altitude spraying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, chemically, what do we know?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Chemically, we know from this lab test that aluminum was found in these rainwater samples seven times higher than the maximum permissible safe levels here in Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes, seven times higher than permissible in Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aluminum?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Aluminum.
		And now we have a match.
		Now we have a lab test that matches precisely a patent calling for the spraying of aluminum in the skies over this hemisphere in a desperate attempt to avert the worst catastrophes of global warming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm just flashing back to the story I read earlier about George Bush, our president here, deciding not to do anything, break his promise and not do anything about carbon dioxide emissions.
		So with that as a background, us doing not much about the whole global warming business, what's going on, we originally had no idea, Will, you'll recall, whether these were some sort of secret, horrible thing our government was doing to either make us sick or perhaps inoculate us against some sort of a terrorist attack or something like that.
		You imagine all kinds of things when you're talking about chemtrails.
		And I asked you years ago, you may recall, isn't it possible that it could be some attempt at weather modification?
		So now you've come to believe, apparently, that that's your number one suspect?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I've got about a 95% certainty, and I trace a compelling chain of documented evidence, patents, Lawrence Livermore lab studies, Edward Teller's call for this geoengineering project.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And that's all laid out in my book and my video in a way that, while not definite proof, we have to emphasize this, not definite proof is, to me, at least the most logical and compelling chain of evidence that we have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what would be the science behind it?
		If you put aluminum in the air in the manner that we're imagining is being done right now, and certainly you have the samples to prove it, what would the aluminum do?
		How would this help modify the weather?
		What's the idea behind it?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Edward Teller recently told CBS News that the simplest solution to global warming he's speaking of is to put into a high atmosphere small particles which scatter away 1 or 2% of the incoming sunlight.
		He said the sooner we do this, the better.
		Now we're talking talcum powder-size particles, particles so small that the Hughes patent issued in 94 to the Hughes Aircraft Corporation, one of the biggest aero defense contractors on this planet, they called for putting these aluminum particles actually into the fuel of jet aircraft, including commercial airliners so it could be distributed at cruising altitudes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who called for that, please?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		This is the Hughes patent issued to the Hughes Aircraft Company.
unidentified		And it was the Wellsback patent.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And we have to credit Mike Castle here, who came on your show and identified this 1991 patent for stratospheric Wellsback seating for reduction of global warming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so somebody went to enough trouble to actually file a patent to put aluminum in jet fuel so that we would slowly begin to modify our own weather, preventing some of the sunlight from reaching Earth.
		And that indeed would, of course, we have a few degrees that it is warmed up.
		If you prevent a degree or two from getting to Earth in the form of sunlight, you do begin to change things the other way.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Even more drastically, according to the Lawrence Livermore lab, which conducted extensive computer simulations around this model, anticipating a doubling of CO2 emissions over the next 50 years or so with catastrophic consequences for the planet,
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		they figured that by spraying aluminum oxide into the atmosphere, these aluminum particles, and deflecting 1 to 2% of incoming sunlight, there would be no net increase in temperature on the surface of the Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about biological effects on human beings?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did anything in the patent cover that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		No, they didn't address that at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Usually before you toss aluminum into the air, you would want to have some sort of study to see whether people inhaling aluminum particles might feel poorly for a while, at the very least.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Actually, the only caution in the patent, and this is significant, was that the people who put this together, remember this is a practical application.
		This isn't theory.
		A patent is for a practical application.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Gee, we're worried that it might change the color of the sky.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		People might be disturbed by a Milky White sky, and that was their main concern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's interesting that you should mention Milky White because I've got a, actually I've got a whole bunch of emails from truckers.
		They're on the road, you know, the better part of the day every single day.
		Well, hold on.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		When I come back, I want to read this.
		It's from a trucker.
		And believe me, when you hear it, folks, it will curl your hair.
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		more somewhere in time coming up ok My heart is on fire.
		My soul's like a wheel that's turning.
		I tried to reach for you, but you have lost your mind.
		Whatever happened to my love.
		I wish I understood It used to be so nice, it used to be so good So when you're near me darling, can't you hear me?
		S.O.S The love you gave me, nothing else can save me S.O.S When you're gone, how can I even try to go on?
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		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		William Thomas is my guest.
		We're talking about chemtrails, those evil things in the sky.
		Or, are they saving us?
		I'm not sure.
unidentified		I'm not sure.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go again with Will Thomas.
		First, I want to read something that is simply typical of so many that I've got.
		I hear from a lot of truckers.
		In fact, I know darn well we've got more truckers that listen to this show than all the trucking shows combined.
		So I hear from many, many, many, many truckers.
		Here's a typical one.
		Hi, Art.
		Been a long time.
		Welcome back.
		The following happens regularly.
		Long after the chemtrails linger at high altitude, and I'm driving toward the setting sun.
		I see what appears to be the sparkling beginning of mist on my windshield.
		The cleaner the windshield, the easier it is to see.
		The first time my wife and I saw it, the sky had been clear blue all day, except for chemtrails in the early morning.
		I couldn't believe it was a natural mist.
		So I reached around and tried to see if it was water, which it wasn't.
		In fact, it was crystalline and wouldn't come off until I cleaned the windshield with water.
		Then it came off very easily.
		Interesting how quick it dissolved with water.
		It was invisible until I was driving toward the setting sun.
		Since then, being curious and watching for it, it appears fairly regularly.
		If you keep your windshield really clean, it should be possible to razor this stuff off and collect it for analysis, shouldn't it?
		Incidentally, I never park under any trees.
		I'll be listening, but please keep my name out of it.
		And so I shall.
		That was merely typical of many, many, many, many emails that I'm getting from people out there on the open road for a business.
		What do you think, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I think people should wear rubber gloves, have some kind of mask over their face when they collect this material and then turn to the yellow pages for licensed labs in their area.
		And of course the big problem with this whole investigation art is coming up with the hundreds of dollars necessary for the test.
		But if clean samples can be taken and tested, it would help this work immeasurably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Especially if you're out on the open road driving late at night here in the West where you're not encountering vehicles right in front of your throwing stuff on your windshield.
		So essentially you're just getting whatever happens to be in the air.
		You could conceivably get a fairly clean sample.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Again, Clifford Carnicum, who is linked from my website, has some superb photographs of gel-like material that has fallen on windshields.
		And this art is a sticky substance reported in the U.S., Canada, Britain, very hard to remove from buildings or windshields.
		And some of this material has been tested pathogenic.
		So be careful collecting samples of the gel material.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People say and ask various things, Will, like there would have to be so many people involved in this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the other hand, if this was stuff put into jet fuel, there wouldn't have to be that many people who would know about it, would there?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly right.
		And if it's a military operation and we have positively identified this as primarily KC-135, KC-10 U.S. tankers, it's very easy to compartmentalize this and keep it very quiet.
		Again, my video has a very disturbing clip, especially disturbing to me because, again, I did not want to go here to the commercial airliner hypothesis.
		We have unmistakable evidence of an MD-80 airliner spreading plumes far thicker than normal contrails across two lingering plumes laid down previously.
		So it appears that in some instances, airliners may be used to spread this material as well as the tankers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		In order to do tonight's program, we have a number of contrail photographs that you have provided for us on my website.
		And I want to discuss some of them with you, William.
		Folks, if you go to my website right now, www.artbell.com, click on program and tonight's guest info, it'll take you to the name William Thomas.
		Directly below the name William Thomas, you will see the second item, which I want you to click on, entitled Contrails from Around the Country.
		And there is one, two, three, four, five, six pictures there.
		Now, going down to the photograph of New Hampshire, we'll discuss these various photographs, but going to the one of New Hampshire, you know the one I'm talking about, Will?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Will, that is what our sky looked like here in Perump, Nevada, after we had a couple of X's above us on that day that I described to you.
		The entire sky turned to kind of a misty, dingy, oily mess just the way the New Hampshire picture shows.
		And it's absolutely remarkable.
		The other photographs show various other contrails that we don't think are contrails.
		And here's one where there's obviously one contrail, but then something else by it spreading way out that obviously is not a contrail.
		And there are several pictures of Atlanta, Georgia.
		Atlanta, what a mess there.
		My God, I get these all the time.
unidentified		People are sending me these all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you able to look?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what's up there?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And these are recent photographs.
		These are 2001.
		In fact, most of them within the last few months.
		So this is continuing.
		In fact, I live on a little tiny island off the coast of Canada called Hornby Island.
		And we have seen massive, underlying massive spraying here five of the last eight days.
		Just after I gave a chemtrail presentation here on the island and showed my video, almost as if they were advertising, putting these billboards in the sky for the unbelievers to look at these unmistakable patterns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if what we're seeing is what you have suggested it might be an attempt at weather modification, then I suppose our discussing it wouldn't change it.
		I suppose any revelation that anybody might have or even anything in the press wouldn't change it.
		They're not going to stop doing what they're doing no matter what.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		If you remember back to our first show, I told you and your listeners that my feeling was that this was an act of desperation.
		And I am more than ever convinced that this is a desperate operation to avert an economic catastrophe.
		Let's remember that the biggest environmental lobby on this planet is not Greenpeace.
		It's the insurance companies.
		Insurance companies that are bigger than big oil, bigger even than the international trade in arms.
		Insurance companies that are losing $92 billion a year.
		That's a documented figure.
		Three times the dollar cost of the Vietnam War because of extreme weather events.
		The insurers are freaking out.
		They are going to the capitals of Canada, the U.S., Britain, and saying, look, if we go down, the banks that back us go down, Wall Street goes down, the whole thing stops.
		You have to get a handle on global warming.
		And the choices are stark.
		Lawrence Livermore Lab did the studies.
		They ran the numbers.
		If we curtail fossil fuel use in the United States 20% to early 1990 levels, it will cost the U.S. economy, at least initially, $100 billion a year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't doubt it for a second.
		So, if those are the choices, let's imagine a president of the United States who has a secret briefing.
		And even though this president may have made a promise to curtail carbon dioxide emissions, for example, even if he made that promise when he was running for president and he was presented with the information, well, if we really jump on this and try and clean it up, it's going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars.
		Or we have a second option, Mr. President.
		It would require a massive undertaking.
		How we would do it, I couldn't possibly describe here, but I'm sure it would be described to the President.
		We would actually reduce the temperature of the Earth by a couple of degrees, and we could keep burning fossil fuels and keep the economy where we want it.
		What do you think that President would do?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Especially, Art, if he was told that the cost of the aerial spray program would be $1 billion a year, just 1% of the other horrific cost, and that the U.S. Air Force has 700 tankers in its active inventory.
		No problem, Mr. President.
		We have the technology.
		The Cold War is over.
		We have the aircraft, and it's only $1 billion cheaper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me think.
		In one hand, I've got $100 billion, very heavy.
		In the other hand, I've got $1 billion, and I'm a president.
unidentified		What do I do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$100 billion?
		Billion dollars.
		Not a real hard choice, huh?
		Nope.
		And especially if we can keep burning fossil fuels.
		Not a real hard choice.
		And I'm not saying that's one the president made, but it's logical that he would have had this presented to him.
		Now, I tell you, Will, I ought to take a second out, and I want to, you and I have discussed so many times why this is not in the major press, why the networks are not all over this as they ought to be.
		And it's been a puzzle for a long time.
		Finally, the USA Today came to Will Thomas and interviewed Will Thomas and wrote the following article that I'm now going to read to you.
		This is USA Today.
		Tracy Watson wrote it.
		And let me read it to you.
		Here's how they treat it.
		A new conspiracy theory sweeping the internet and radio talk shows has set parts of the federal government on edge.
		The theory, the white lines of condensed water vapor that jets leave in the sky called contrails are actually a toxic substance the government deliberately sprays on an unsuspecting populace.
		Federal bureaucracies have gotten thousands of phone calls, emails, and letters in recent years from people demanding to know what's being sprayed and why.
		Some of the missives are threatening.
		It's impossible to tell how many supporters these ideas have attracted, but the people who believe them say they're tired of getting the brush off from officials and they're tired of health problems that they blame on spraying, in quotes.
		This is blatant.
		It's in your face, says Philip Marie Sr., a retired nuclear quality engineer from Bartlett, New Hampshire, who says the sky above his quiet town is often crisscrossed with spray trails.
		He says no one will address it.
		Everyone stonewalls this thing.
		The situation Marie and others describe is straight out of the X-Files.
		He and others report one day looking up at the sky and realizing that they were seeing abnormal contrails, contrails that lingered and spread into wispy clouds, multiple contrails arranged in tic-tac-toe-like grids or parallel lines, contrails being laid down by white planes without registration numbers.
		Believers call these tracks chemtrails.
		They say they don't know why the chemicals are being dropped, but that doesn't stop them from speculating.
		Many guess the federal government is trying to slow global warming with compounds that reflect sunlight into the sky.
		Some propose more ominous theories, such as a government campaign to weed out the old and sick.
		Exasperated by persistent questions, the Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, the Federal Aviation Administration, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have joined forces.
		They did this last fall to publish a fact sheet explaining the science of contrail formation.
		A few months earlier, the Air Force had put out its own fact sheet, which tries to refute its opponents' arguments point by point.
		If you try to pin these people down and refute things, it's well, you're just part of the conspiracy, says atmospheric scientist Patrick Minnesota of NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia.
		Langley, uh-uh-huh.
		Logic is not exactly a real selling point for most of them.
		Nothing is, quote, out there, end quote, except water vapor and ice crystals, say irritated scientists who study contrails.
		Some, such as Minis, are outraged enough by the claims of chemicals that believers have trolled internet chat rooms to correct misinformation or have gotten into arguments with callers.
		Now, check that out.
		Government officials trolling internet chat rooms to correct misinformation or have gotten into arguments with callers.
		Conspiracy nonsense, snorts Kenneth Sasson, an atmospheric scientist of the University of Utah.
		These things are 30 to 40,000 feet in the atmosphere.
		They're tiny particles.
		They're not going to affect anyone.
		The cloud-forming contrails that conspiracy theorists find so ominous are perfectly natural, Minnesot says.
		The odd grid and parallel line patterns are easily explained as contrails blown together by the wind, scientists say.
		So there it was, Will.
		That's the USA Today story.
		And I think people ought to know how they got this story.
		They came to you, didn't they?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		They did.
		They talked to me for over an hour.
		I gave them extensive documentation and photographic evidence as well and pointed them to Clifford Carnicum, who they also interviewed for that meteorological data proving these could not be contrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So Tracy Watson was a gal, right, from USA today?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She was the one.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Senior reporter, aren't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		senior reporter for USA Today.
		All right, fine.
		What was that conversation like?
		I mean, obviously you're laying your whole thing on Tracy because you know you've got the mainstream press right here, so you're expecting some of what you said, you know, to make it into the story.
		And you're trying to impress Tracy of the gravity of this situation and that it's not just a bunch of ice crystals.
		So, I mean, what kind of things do you say to her, and what does she say?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought I was talking journalist to journalist.
		I have been in this profession for more than 30 years.
		I've won awards for my work.
		And I thought speaking on a professional level, keeping to the facts, avoiding unfounded allegations, hyperbole, just sticking to the documentation, including the more than 1,000 eyewitness reports, including the photographic evidence, the lab sample from Ontario.
		I mean, you know, as I say, we talked for over an hour.
		It was clear off the top of the conversation that Ms. Watson had an agenda.
		And USA Today had a very particular interest in quashing this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as a matter of fact, Will, as I read this story, it occurred to me that if you changed what we were talking about and substituted NASA people or scientists for some of the scientists in the story here who are commenting, you could have a story about UFOs with a chuckle at the end.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, they treat it exactly like that.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly the same.
		And I have to say that the contrail information presented in her story is 100% accurate.
		We are not talking about contrails.
		And in no place in this story did she quote any researcher or investigator into the chemtrails phenomena.
		She recorded, or reported rather, no factual information and, frankly, treated these pilots, police officers, and military people who are reporting this phenomena as conspiracy theorists, as idiots.
		I'm outraged, frankly, as a journalist by this very, very poor attempt at reporting.
		Skepticism is fine.
		I expect it from the media.
		I have no problem with the hard questions.
		However, this story was so blatantly biased in its approach going in that this idea of contrails blown together by the wind, I think, exemplifies the hot air that was blown in this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, before people get too cynical and say, ah, baloney, I don't believe it, you should know there have been several instances in the United States, folks, where our own government has sprayed in order to test the spread of disease.
		They've actually made people sick.
		This is not conspiracy stuff.
		This is well-documented.
		You know about it, Will, don't you?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		More than 50 years of open-air experimentation on the American, Canadian, and British public.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Documented, by the way, in two congressional investigations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so we know all of that's true.
		So before you say our government would never, ever do anything like that, you should go read some of the congressional testimony.
		That's what I think.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast A.M., all about chemtrails tonight.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We will eventually get the phone lines open so you can talk to William Thomas.
		But we're kind of laying the case out here.
		Now, you heard that USA Today article.
		What did you think?
		I thought, frankly, we could have transferred it right over to a UFO story with scientists saying Boulder Dash, maybe a comment or two from NASA, and then a great big chuckle at the end.
		Kind of came down the same way, didn't it?
		Anyway, back to Will Thomas in a moment.
		Stay planted.
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unidentified		you're listening to art bell somewhere in time tonight featuring coast to coast a m from march fourteen two thousand one All right, now I am not saying that what I'm about to read is the result of chemtrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to read it to you because, again, it's typical of what I'm getting.
		I'm going to omit the person's name.
		Dear Mr. Bell, how many letters do you get which start out, I've never written a letter like this before?
		Well, I can assure you I haven't.
		My name is, and it's a woman's name.
		I'm going to not read her name.
		I'm now 53 years old.
		I apologize upfront for any and all spelling errors as I have recently had another brain tumor removed and spelling is just coming back.
		That's why I'm writing to you.
		I hail from Arizona originally, then past eight years been in Alaska, Yukon, Whitehorse, then on to Vancouver, B.C. My husband and I reside now in Blaine, Washington, but for three years we drove a semi up and down the I-5 corridor into California and back to Vancouver, or sometimes to Nogulles, Arizona, and back during this period of time.
		We'd notice a white powdery substance all over our newly washed truck, as did others on theirs.
		I began to get headaches, unbearable ones.
		We were careful not to touch the substance, but they found brainstem tumors in me, the size of a grapefruit, at BC Hospital, transferred me to another hospital for a scheduled surgery in New Westminster, about 25 minutes away from the other one.
		In a short amount of time, days, I awoke in intensive care, was only told that I'd had surgery as my stomach had torn.
		A few weeks later, another tumor removed.
		Mr. Bell, I was, and pretty much have been, in the spitting image of health.
		The story turns yet again.
		For some inexplicable reason, my immune system just seemed to have shut down.
		Two and a half months in a hospital, fed through a stomach tube.
		No white count to be found.
		Maybe red, not sure.
		I'm not promiscuous in any way, but was still checked for various things to find the why of it all, AIDS, leukemia, and so forth.
		This was not because I was anemic or it was a low count.
		They were, for all intents and purposes, gone.
		My immune system gone.
		Long story short, visa expired and deported from Canada.
		No follow-up care after that.
		But I did indeed walk out of the hospital.
		Once again, we drove the I-5 Carter.
		They said it wasn't malignant, called melanoma now.
		Once again, white spider web things upon our truck.
		And after a few months, headaches again, Mr. Bell.
		Sadly, another brainstem tumor, same place, bigger.
		Had it removed at Seattle, Harborview.
		And she names the doctor, this tumor this time was iffy, 50-50.
		It might be cancer.
		A course of radiation for six weeks.
		Every day was given.
		Also, every four months for past year, MRI scans to see if it comes back.
		Dye injected to stain any tumor cells if they would be there.
		At this time, my cholesterol went up to 308, still is there.
		No change in food diet from usual.
		We stopped trucking.
		My husband does computer work and so forth now, but yet blood work still in anemic levels despite vitamins.
		All around us, this substance still.
		The webs on the trees now, also on an everyday basis, I watch chemtrails being made, and I mean everyday two huge ones.
		So we began taking photographs, dreadful pictures.
		I'm convinced 100%, not a shadow of a doubt, with every fiber of my being, that I am getting sick from the chemtrails, and the substance is falling upon trees and trucks from them.
		Once again the headaches have begun.
		So it goes on, but I'll leave it right there.
		Will, have you ever heard anything like that?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid I have.
		The hardest part of this work over the past two years has been receiving hundreds of emails like that and experiencing the pain and fear of so many people.
		Over the past two years, the Centers for Disease Control tells us that we have experienced 57 weeks of an epidemic of fatalities, not illness, deaths, mostly among the elderly and also among the children.
		And these epidemic levels of fatalities, according to the Centers for Disease Control, are not from flu, but from flu-like illnesses, acute upper respiratory problems, gastrointestinal problems that when tested in jammed emergency rooms, hospital corridors, doctors' offices, the CDC has found that a maximum 33% of Americans are testing positive for the flu.
		And the national average for acutely ill American citizens is 15% with the flu.
		The CDC is now saying that these illnesses and fatalities could be from an unknown pathogen that doctors cannot diagnose.
		And we have a story out of England in the national press saying that once again, refrigerator trucks being used as mobile morgues, 40% of the elderly entering hospital with this flu-like illness die in hospital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, Will, while you were just saying all of that, I noticed that at the bottom of this particular email that I printed out, the one I just read to you about the lady, she put a phone number there.
		So while you were just saying all that, I called the phone number and she wants to come on the air.
		Fantastic.
		Here she is.
		And I, as you know, ma'am, I did not give your name on the air, and I would not do that unless you wish to do it.
		You're on the air right now.
		If you want to give your name, you're welcome to.
		If you want to remain anonymous, you're welcome to do that as well.
unidentified		Well, thank you so much, Mr. Bell.
		What a privilege to speak to both of you gentlemen this evening.
		Yes, my name is Jenny, and I'm quite willing to give my name, and I fervently believe that letter.
		I'm so pleased that you read it.
		Maybe there are other people who will hear this, but something is in our skies.
		Just this morning, I was looking out of my window.
		I am right on the BC borderline in Blaine, perhaps about three hours from Seattle.
		And I noticed a chemtrail starting from the ocean.
		I'm right in front of the ocean.
		I could spit and get into the ocean.
		It was going straight up into the air, Mr. Bell.
		I don't know any plane, and I know that we go to Seattle seaports, and I also know our airports, I beg your pardon.
		And I know that there are airports as well in Vancouver.
		I can see White Rock, for example, so I know that there are plain paths, but these are not contrails.
		These are chemtrails, and they bulbous out.
		Sometimes they look sort of like whale spines, you know, that kind of fingery, spidery look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jenny, if what you say is true, this has obviously ruined your life.
		I mean, brain skin tuners.
		Jenny, you were in trucking, right?
unidentified		Well, my husband was, yes, and he taught me to drive the semine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so did you talk to other truckers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this common that truckers notice?
unidentified		When these headaches started, you know how I would only relieve drive on occasion if my husband was very tired and to stay awake my own self, you know, you have a CB and you speak with other truckers.
		Right, sure.
		We did this seven days a week for three years solid.
		And I mean, maybe one day out of the truck a month at that.
		And we consistently drove the I-5 corridor.
		And just other truckers would say they had headaches.
		I would ask sometimes if anybody was pulling in a truck stop if they had any aspirins or Tylenol, anything with codeine, I was just in agony.
		And I would make jokes.
		I would say, we washed our truck today, and I feel like I have a headache the size of a brain tumor.
		This is not a normal headache.
		Little did I know those words would fall true.
		But this has affected my life.
		I have a grandson that was born when I had the sprain, the second one removed.
		This one grew all into the vein in my neck.
		I have lost one of my major arteries.
		I've been subjected, God knows, I listened to Dr. Lorraine Day what MRI scans do.
		And because of these tumors, I'm subjected to those.
		I mean, it's this never-ending circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand, but other truckers noticed the same thing.
unidentified		Oh, yes, I would get on and ask what they had, I beg your pardon, I would ask if anyone had any aspirins or anything.
		You know, it would be three in the morning, and I was in agony.
		And they would start coming back on saying, I have a headache, and blah, blah, blah.
		People would start mentioning, oh, I noticed this powder, this goo, my windshield has like plaque on it.
		I couldn't get it off.
		I had to get a snow scraper.
		I mean, people were ill, diarrhea or dysentery, perfused vomiting.
		A lot of people said they were having projectile vomiting and blinding headaches for having to pull their trucks over.
		Mine just seemed to be a tumor.
		And if I mentioned to a doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just a tumor?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just a tumor.
unidentified		It was a meningioma the first one.
		And it was on the brainstem.
		And yes, indeed, it was the size of a grapefruit.
		I tested negative when my immune system broke down, by the way.
		There was no explicable reason whatsoever, Mr. Bell, why my immune system just shut down.
		But I had virtually no count, zero count.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You had no immune system then?
unidentified		None.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Jenny, I've got to move on, but I really want to thank you for coming on the air and validating what I read.
unidentified		Well, absolutely.
		And thank you so much for reading my letter.
		God bless you.
		And please keep up the good work on these kin tails because something is in our skies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No question about it.
		Thank you very much.
		All right, now, having heard all of that, Will, you know, even having said that I'm very well aware of the congressional testimony involving our own government having sprayed its citizens for various tests, sometimes making us sick.
		The Great San Francisco experiment, for example.
		I know they've done that, but I'm still, and I always have been.
		Maybe I'm naive, Will, but I don't think there would be a massive conspiratorial giant program to try and make us sick.
		I actually don't believe that our government is that evil.
		Maybe that makes me really, really naive, but I don't believe that.
		I think the more likely explanation is the one that you've come up with.
		The question is, is a side effect of the aluminum or perhaps some of the biological agents, and we haven't talked about those yet that have been found in chemtrails, is there some sort of side effect that is making some people sick?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, and I agree with you.
		I don't believe for a minute that this is a deliberate attempt to sicken and kill American or Canadian citizens.
		I believe that these are unintended consequences, collateral damage in the military term for an operation deemed essential somehow to national security.
		Biological weapons, and I am a reluctant authority on these weapons, having written a book on it, are not spread from high altitudes, certainly not over a period of years.
		They're spread at very low altitudes once or twice, and of course the contagion spreads very rapidly.
		The symptoms that we are seeing, and by the way, low platelet count, low white blood cells is very common among people complaining of chemtrail-related illness.
		William Wallace's wife, Ann, has become very, very ill with Epstein-Barr or mononucleosis and low platelet counts.
		I believe that these symptoms cannot be accounted for by aluminum exposure.
		And yes, we are now getting some hair sample tests in Vancouver, on a nearby island, Denman Island, also in Ontario, showing surprisingly elevated levels of aluminum in people exposed to chemtrails.
		But this does not account for the range of symptoms that we've just heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that in the past we talked about the chemical makeup of these chemtrails, and you came up with some agents, some chemical agents that included some biological agents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What else in the past have you found in chemtrails that might account for, I don't know, like what we're hearing?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, once again, in the chemtrails, the high-altitude chemtrails we've been discussing tonight, we have no, repeat, no samples of those actual plumes.
		We have one, one lab test of rain falling through those plumes, testing, again, aluminum seven times higher than maximum permissible safe levels for human beings.
		The pathogenic material found in lab tests initiated by Arminia Kassani back in the Midwestern United States and corroborated with other tests of similar gel-like material have all come from low-level, this is rooftop-level drops of gel-like material.
		And Arminia Kassani has taken this to a lab which came back to her and said, where did you get this biohazard material?
		And the lab was very concerned when she showed up with a sample taken in Pennsylvania a year earlier that basically matched the components that had shown up in the later samples.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Biohazard material.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Biohazard.
		We are talking a cocktail, again to use the military terminology, a cocktail of pathogenic molds, fungi, and bacteria that can make people very ill with upper respiratory problems, gastrointestinal problems, the kind of dizziness and disorientation and fatigue that many people are complaining about.
		And the lab tests are conclusive that these materials are in the low-level sprays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Will, I went to the Super Bowl this year in Tampa, and I got some emails.
		When I got back, I got, as my audience knows, sicker than a dog.
		And I had a few emails that said, hey, Art, did you know the Super Bowl was sprayed?
		You got a few emails like that, too, didn't you?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Oh, yeah.
		And not just the Super Bowl, Art.
		Major football, sporting events, rock concerts, a Tona 500, anywhere that crowds gather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's suspicious because if you're trying to change the weather, if you're trying to actually reduce the temperature of Earth by shielding it from some of the sun that otherwise would come down, why wouldn't you do it in as stealth a manner as possible?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would you go to places where there are big crowds?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A similar question is, why not do it over the oceans where no one will be affected if you simply want to spread a crowd cover and reflect sunlight?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Why do it over cities and rural areas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		The short answer is that we have measured significant decreases in ultraviolet under the chem clouds, the chemtrail overcast, just as we would measure decreased UV under normal overcast.
		And you would want to deliberately spray over farm fields that are experienced significant crop losses due to very high levels of ultraviolet radiation.
		And again, you would hopefully want to protect cities and citizens from ultraviolet.
		This, I have to emphasize, is speculation.
		I do not know this.
		We do have the readings of lower UV, and that might explain it.
		As for the crowds and the sporting events, it could be coincidence.
		It could be that the weekends are often favored by the chemtrail sprayers, and these people were caught out under it.
		Or perhaps there was a more insidious reason for targeting these.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the one I'd rather not believe.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'd rather not go there, too, and I have no evidence to support that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, Will.
		We'll be right back.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good morning, everybody.
		I hope you feel it's good morning after hearing all of this.
		William Thomas is my guest, and we're talking about chemtrails, as opposed to contrails.
		And I assume if you've been listening by now, you understand that distinction.
		We'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		And William, you were mentioning that you think it's high time that we actually did something about all of this.
		What would you have done, William?
		And let's begin there before I even comment.
		What do you think we could do?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		First of all, we have to take this story to the mainstream media mesmerizer folks and put this in their faces until they put these images and information on television across America.
		And I believe, Art, that one effective way to drag the mainstream media into this story is by putting videotape on local cable stations until there is enough outcry to force coverage by the mainstream media.
		And I would like to give a kudo to NBC News, which ran a balanced report on chemtrails in Memphis, Tennessee last year.
		It was an affiliate station.
		They went out and got their own chemtrail footage.
		They gave a balanced report, so it can be done.
		We need it to be done by other stations.
		And either show my video to your local cable stations or take your own footage and photographs and get this on cable, which is mandated to present local content.
		So that's the first thing.
		Also, listeners, I encourage listeners to respectfully bombard newspapers such as USA Today, television shows, 60 Minutes, Larry King, you know the ones, and insist that this subject be covered as journalistically as possible given the constraints of corporate media.
		So it's a picture story.
		We have to get those images on television.
		That's going to turn the tide.
		It will get everybody looking up at the sky, and it will get people phoning each other and their representatives and authorities.
		So that's number one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me just stop you and ask about reality, I suppose.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If it's what we, our best guess is, and this is an attempt at weather modification, then obviously the authorities have settled on this to save billions of dollars, maybe hundreds of billions of dollars.
		They're doing it with what they think is a clear motive to save us.
		And then I suppose they have their own financial motives and oil motives and big, big, big motives.
		If that's really all that is true and that's really what's happening here, Will, what makes you think anything we do is going to change their minds?
		I'm sorry, but I had to ask.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure we can change minds.
		We certainly need to get this into the public debate.
		We need to look very closely and collectively at alternatives to the course that we're on.
		And putting a Band-Aid in the sky, if this in fact is true, in order to continue to pollute as usual, is going to be a disaster.
		We see wild weather changes in the wake of chemtrail spraying.
		We understand that increased cloud cover messes up heat balances regionally, messes up weather.
		This is dangerous.
		We need it in the public debate whether authorities want to continue this program or not.
		And we need to look at alternatives.
		We need to look at drastic cutbacks in fossil fuel consumption and a whole new approach to living, which, by the way, is going to spawn all kinds of industries and opportunities for entrepreneurs to come forward with solutions.
		So everybody expects what the authorities feel they have to do on behalf of the corporations who pull their puppet strings.
		We the citizens have to stand up, go to the media, go to our representatives, and insist at least on a public debate.
		And backing up a step here, when we go to media, we don't have to make any claims, Art, of weather or climate modification, biological warfare, anything like that.
		We simply go to the media with the facts of an unusual aerial phenomena observed by tens of thousands of people, and we need and demand investigation and an explanation of this phenomena.
		So we'll just start right there with the photographic and video evidence, the eyewitness reports that we have in towns all over America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the hard evidence.
		I agree with you.
		All right, back to the phones.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yes, this is Ray in Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ray.
unidentified		And I had a quick question.
		If the chemtrails are as extensive as it sounds to me like they are, what would be the extent of their nighttime spraying where you wouldn't be able to see it as easily?
		If they're really trying to cover this up and they're not admitting to it, why would they not spray at nighttime?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really interesting that you would bring that up because, let me see if I can get rid of that echo.
		It's really interesting you would bring that up because earlier today I received an infrared shot of chemtrails.
		Wow.
		And it's the first one I've ever seen.
		Keith has it.
		We've got to decide whether or not we're going to post it.
		But I have an infrared shot.
		It's very easy to take infrared photographs of the night sky.
		So the answer is they're there at night.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Increasingly there at night.
		Again, if this is an act of despiration, they're going to be spraying day and night.
		Now, here's something very interesting about the nighttime spraying.
		I've been looking into this climate change business and the International Panel on Climate Change.
		They say that the biggest heat differentials take place at night.
		So if you really want to affect global warming, you would continue to spray after dark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
unidentified		Okay, thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Yeah, it's Jeff in Midland, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Jeff.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Good to talk to you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you.
unidentified		Yeah, of course.
		I've noticed a couple of things lately.
		About a few weeks ago, I noticed three aircraft flying not at the high flyer level, you know, above 30,000 feet, but lower.
		But they weren't flying abreast.
		They were flying at sort of a wedge angle and putting down chemtrails.
		And I thought that was kind of bizarre.
		And I kind of passed it off.
		Oh, well.
		And then on this last Sunday, I believe the 11th, I think, we had the crisscross pattern, giant chessboard pattern.
		I came out of the Barnes & Nobles.
		I was over there doing my usual research for free, which I'm sure they don't like.
		And I came out, and I noticed this really bizarre-looking sky, and it was a big, giant chessboard pattern.
		And I thought, well, this is really strange.
		And it had weird colors to it.
		It was almost like a sort of refractive-type pattern to it.
		Behind it was a beautiful blue sky.
		And then below it, which I would guess would probably be about 10,000 feet or so, maybe, the stationary pattern that was spreading out, but it stayed the course, you know, as far as being a grid pattern.
		And then after listening tonight, it really struck me, struck me hard.
		The second, I mean, that's the third thing about somebody mentioned white planes, and there has been this white 737 that has been flying around here for the past three years.
		I don't know what it's doing.
		It's not a commercial airliner.
		It's creepy looking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'd say take pictures, darn it.
unidentified		Yeah, I would like to do that.
		This thing just tops out of nowhere.
		And it's a white, it does have call letters on it, but it's not marked.
		It's just a pure white 737, which I find really bizarro.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So do I. William, is that typical?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Not the 737, but the white spotter type airplanes are, as your caller says, popping up all over.
		And we're talking twin-engine aircraft flying at low altitudes beneath chemtrails here in Vancouver, other parts of the United States.
		I just got some reports this week, white spotter planes, the observer's word spotter, but white aircraft that appear to be sampling or spotting chemtrails at very low altitudes.
unidentified		and again folks we really need to photograph of these aircraft sorry car i agree and all right i think i think it's one more thing uh...
unidentified		when you're doing your in quotes research at barnes and noble how many times a day do you have to say just browsing just browsing and i never have to say that i can go in there and i can i can run through the magazine rack and then go back to the cookbook section and have a heyday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're good people then.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Let's get some chemtrails in those magazines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, indeed.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		West of the Rockies.
peter davenport ▲ ● ▼		Call toll-free.
unidentified		1-800-618-8255.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michael, I'm going to have to take that out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have one pretty important rule.
unidentified		Okay, don't hang up on me, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not hanging up on you.
		I'm just saying we have an important rule on the show.
		You can only use your first name.
unidentified		Okay, it's Michael from Philadelphia and the Flamethrower Talk Radio 1210.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
unidentified		I've got a list of everything, and I'm going to run through it, and here it goes.
		Bright white trails against a blue sky, perfect weather.
		And then they go to fanning out, and then they drop as a perfect weather all at once.
		And all the local air traffic is grounded because I'm in Philadelphia.
		You see it drop into Philadelphia Airport.
		And then all of a sudden, these big black, and people have called them other colors, but big black, they lay the trail, and then the spotter planes, which are like corporate, high-end corporate types, go in and kind of survey the area.
		And then you get high-end Air Force, and I have pictures of zeros and X's where these high-ends like mark certain areas.
		And then these big blacks re-spray, and then the whites, like, have sensors or something.
		And then they kind of, like, you didn't do enough here, you didn't do enough there.
		And it all comes at once.
		But it's perfect weather, whether it's midday, no wind, perfect blue sky, or late evening.
		And one time we're coming from the Jersey Turnpike South.
		They all started heading from the north and they go to Dover, Dover Military Base, and they end down there.
		And I've got pictures on disc, and I turned them into disc type with negatives.
		I've got them right here.
		They need to be re-enhanced.
		But everything you finally, Mr. Thomas, God bless you.
		I have been the proverbial whack job in my family and telling people this.
		And I am in front, I'm out in a grocery store, parking lot, taking pictures in Cherry Hill of all of this.
		And I have it, but the perfect, it's bright white trails.
		They fall.
		And then the white spotters, and then the jets, the Air Force Type F somethings, come in and actually put zeros and X's in the air.
		And then the big blacks come back through.
		And as I was sitting at the Cherry Hill Mall, they all start diving down to land in Philadelphia.
		And then all the regular air traffic comes back up to the air.
		You see regular air traffic drop, then the big ones come up, they drop, and then air traffic comes back up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you're saying you see spotter planes sort of kind of like in NOM where they lay down smoke and then you lay down the heavy fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're marking the spot and then the larger planes are laying it down.
unidentified		Right.
		But up in the air, I'm telling you, Art and Mr. Thomas, they literally, these high-end agile aircraft, the Air Force big S kinds, who can make a quick X and a zero in the air and get out of dodge.
		And then the big planes come by and then the previous caller, but the 10,000 foot, the spotters even go down to 5,000 feet, and you see these trails turn into big wafting, kind of like drifting fans, and then they fall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Will.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Boy, if we had that whole segment on videotape, on a tripod, shooting that over time, whoa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what we really need that, folks.
		We need the proof.
		We need more proof.
		we've already got a great deal of proof obviously you've heard it this morning Nope, that's new.
		And I don't know.
		It's hard to ask people.
		You know, they have lives.
		To sit out there with a video camera and to try to get all of this stuff.
		It's a lot to ask of people.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I used to have a life myself before this story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet you did.
		Wasn't the Rockies are on the air with a man who has no life but knows about chemtrails.
		Little Thomas.
		Hello.
unidentified		How are you guys doing today?
unidentified		Okay.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Good.
		I just want to give you a little bit of background.
		I've been following this for a couple of years since they flew over my area, and I immediately recognized what they were from Art's website.
		So I drove to the top of the nearest mountain and got as many still photos as I could.
		And within the next day, I was immediately violently ill.
		Really sick, dizzy, upper respiratory coughing.
		I was just vicious.
		But since then, I've been chasing these guys and tracking them down.
		And I've followed them to at least one Air Force base in the United States.
		I've taken hours of videotape.
		And I need to know how I can get this to you.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		A videotape of aircraft on the ground?
unidentified		I've got videotape of the base where they've been landing, taking off.
unidentified		I found them in the air.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Are you on email, sir?
unidentified		I do have email, yes.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		If you can contact me by email, and I'll set you up with an express address.
unidentified		Okay.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Willthomas at TELUSTELUS dot net.
unidentified		Okay.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		And also, or you can reach me through my website as well, and that would be fabulous.
unidentified		Okay.
		And about the night spring, if they're refracting sunlight in the daytime with this chemical, what do you suppose it is they're spraying at night?
		I mean, I know it hangs around for up to seven hours at times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It actually, Will, I believe you said that the fellow you talked to said it would hang around for a long time, days and days, if not longer.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, the patent called for a year, but the Alcoa Aluminum Engineer, the former engineer, said it would come down quite quickly, he thought.
		Now, the nighttime spraying, remember the Wellsback patent talks about not just reflecting sunlight, as Edward Teller called for in his address to the 1998 International Conference on Planetary Emergencies, when he was saying we had to take this drastic measure.
		But the Wellsback patent calls for, my video explains this graphically through animation, it transmutes heat trapped near the surface of the Earth into far infrared frequencies and allows It to escape or radiate into space.
		So by spraying this at night, where we have this greater heat differential, I surmise that it would, if this worked, in fact, as theory suggests, actually help radiate heat away from the planet at night.
unidentified		As opposed to the reverse of an albedo reflection in the daytime?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Hopefully, according to the patent, both would work together.
		You'd get a reflectant of sunlight and a bleeding off, if you like, of heat trapped near the surface.
		And all I can say, folks, is from where I'm sitting and the reports I'm reading, it ain't working.
		Weather is getting worse, more erratic.
		Climate change seems to be accelerating.
		So if this is the reason we're screwing things up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, they might say, well, it'd be a whole lot worse if we weren't doing what we were doing.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Prove it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
		Listen, I just got email from Germany, and they say they're seeing chemtrails in Germany.
		Now, when I have a guest on, as I have you on right now, I tie up the international line so they can't get through.
		So I'm getting emails.
		In Germany, they're seeing chemtrails.
		You did say allies, right?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I said allies.
		Germany, Norway, Sweden, Italy, Scotland, England, Ireland, some 12 other countries beside the USA and Canada.
		And I hope German listeners or visitors to your website can intercede with some European magazines.
		This is important.
		Der Stern, Der Spiegel, Paris Match.
		These are the folks that broke the Flight 800 shoot-down story and got the truth out.
		The Europeans are much more skeptical, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, they've got your email address, and we'll give it again here after the break.
		Bill Thomas, on Coast to Coast AM, we'll be right back.
		Stay where you are.
unidentified		Keep saying, you've got something for me.
unidentified		Something you call love, but confess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thought this would work?
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		that was our bell hosting coast-to-coast a m on this somewhere in time the These boots are made for walking.
		And that's just what they'll do.
		One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		You keep lying when you ought to be Only in America, and I got somewhere.
		Go to sleep upon her and wake up familiar hair.
		Only in America, and a kid without a sense.
		Get a break and maybe grow up to be president.
		Only in America, land of opportunity, yeah.
		Would a classy girl like you fall for a poor boy like me?
		In America, can a kid who's washing cars take a giant step and reach right up and talk a star?
		In America, a dream like this comes true.
		A guy like me starts with nothing and there's nothing in you.
		In America, a dream like this comes true.
		A dream like this comes true.
		you're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14th, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ramona just brought me a chocolate chip cookie.
unidentified		You know, one of those soft chocolate chip cookies?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, it's delicious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		survival food.
unidentified		sad music
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from March 14, 2001.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coast to Coast AM All right, Will, you're back on the air again.
		Okay.
		And lots of people want to talk to you.
		So here we go.
		First time CallerLine, you're on the air with William Thomas of Chemtrail fame.
unidentified		Hi, this is Larry from California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Larry.
unidentified		How are you doing?
		I'm an avionics tech, and I actually work on KC-135s.
		No kidding.
		Yeah, for the government as a civilian.
		The only thing I have a question for your guest is that, see, when we fill our airplanes up with gas, we're filling them up with the same fuel we're putting on our 38s and 39s and 15s.
		And also, the KC-135, you know, is he talking about the R-models or the E-models type of aircraft?
		Because if he talked about the old E-models, they have the J-57s.
		And they do leave a really trail in the air.
		I'm just wondering if he knows which models.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		He wouldn't know the model designation.
		We've positively ID the aircraft because we've matched our videotape with the official U.S. photographs.
		Couldn't give you the model.
unidentified		Yeah, because there's like 10 different models of KCs.
		And I was just wondering if anyone wants a certain model or not.
		And the fact that they pass the gas to other airplanes, I mean, that's their job.
		And they do it out of their own tanks.
		In other words, they burn the tank, the gas out of the same tanks they pass to the other airplanes.
		So is these chemicals getting into like the 16s and the 15s when they pass it to them?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Actually, these aircraft are spraying chemicals in what U.S. Air Force Weather Force specialists call aerial obscuration, and they're not refueling any fighter planes on these particular missions.
		Now, I have a letter from Major Gregory Lee Barlow down in Washington State stating emphatically that our tankers, our being U.S. Air Force tankers, do not make contrails.
		Why?
		Because they fly too low to refuel tactical fighters.
		They don't fly at the higher altitudes.
		So he is saying their tankers don't make contrails and I am saying we have hundreds of photographs and miles of videotape of tankers making some kind of trail.
		If not a contrail, it must be something else.
unidentified		Well when I fly them, because I fly them when we go, you know, go places.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Way up to 35,000 feet and above.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Are you refueling at that altitude?
unidentified		No, we're not refueling at that altitude normally.
unidentified		Normally they come down, they get in a track, and I think they refuel about 15,000.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		That sounds right.
unidentified		That's about right.
unidentified		Okay, I just was wondering if you knew what model type.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not specific.
unidentified		There are many different models.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate your call.
unidentified		All right, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you and take care.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, good morning, y'all.
unidentified		Dave from San Jose listening on KSFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mighty KSFO.
unidentified		Yeah, and please beat KGO, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I'm glad you said something about that because we are positioned right now to womp KGO.
		And of course, KGO is a fine station.
		They're the sister station, but we're going to kick their sister station buttons.
unidentified		You don't know how much I appreciate that.
unidentified		And I won't mention the other guests anyway, who's on the same time as you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, tell Ray, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, do you have a question?
unidentified		Yeah, I certainly do.
		Will, about the USA Today article, even if you would have been mentioned or quoted precisely in that article, if you read, obviously you've read the article, the first seven words are, a new conspiracy that's sweeping the internet.
		Right there, you are dead.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
unidentified		They killed you.
		No matter which way you would have been put otherwise in the article, you were dead.
		You also mentioned that, and Art did too, about the people in Germany saying that they're saying the same things you said about the Allies.
		But you really said it earlier in the program.
		It's happening on a NATO level.
		Your words, not mine.
		And now I want to get to a certain point.
		This time that we're living in, we're looking at climate change.
		And maybe your eyes are going to roll back here, and maybe I'm wildly speculating.
		But we have this climate change going.
		We have a very strange economic time going.
		The Middle East is, whoever gives the go signal there, that will explode, plus Kospo, plus the Russians, and on and on.
		Plus, you also have UFO, because you're going to this conspiracy conference, I'm sure that there will be UFO and abduction and that type of thing happening.
		Can these things possibly be compartmentalized, or do you see a linkage between the chemtrails and all of this activity looping back into being one thing and the chemtrails being a part of this whole?
		Does that make sense?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure I completely follow you.
		Certainly in terms of cover-up of real intentions and real operations, there is a linkage across the board.
		As Art noted earlier, we have the same type of denial and official cover-ups going on.
		As far as all of us inhabiting the spaceship facing these perils, yes, all of these factors are linked in the sense of threat and opportunity for change.
unidentified		Okay, that's what I was thinking because I was wondering if the chemtrail was just one thread of all these other seemingly unrelated events that are by coincidence happening right at this moment.
unidentified		Like I say, the economics and everything else.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Let me take another quick shot at it.
		I've been on this story for over two years, and it's been very frustrating, and I'm delighted tonight to have had a breakthrough and an admission of a military component.
		I've stuck with this story because I believe firmly that when the chemtrail operation is finally exposed publicly, a lot of other devious government plots, if you will, are going to come unraveled at the same time.
		It's going to take down quite a bit of secrecy around other projects.
unidentified		Okay, thank you, Will, and God bless you, and good luck to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, dear friend, thank you very much for the call.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, William.
		My question, I'm from Lone Star, South Carolina.
		My question has to do with pulse detonation contrails.
		I was wondering if you've had any sightings of any contrails lately at all with the pulse detonation.
		I'm just wondering, in your view, could this technology also be pulse detonation in a nuclear sense also?
		Maybe utilizing a quite rapid succession of pulses, getting some rapid aerial type of maneuvers involved with something like that.
		I'll just sit back and listen to what you've got to say.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I've certainly seen photographs.
		I believe you're talking of the dashed line appearance of these plumes.
		Given that they are coming from the same type, multi-engine, four- and three-engine aircraft using the same engine types, I do not feel that these are experimental pulse jet engines or any type of engine.
		This could be an atmospheric effect to explain the dashed line appearance.
		But again, if the plane is flying at the same altitude and the same temperature humidity layer, I can't see a direct atmospheric explanation either.
		So I can only tell you, sir, that those photographs leave me very puzzled indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Running short on time.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
		I'll make it quick.
		I know this truck noise is annoying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a truck?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And where is your truck?
unidentified		Southwest Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Call sign UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Could human bodies absorb this aluminum over time and make us more susceptible to the psychological frequencies that HARP is reputed to be able to transmit?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an Interesting question.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		First answer: yes, absolutely.
		This is cumulative in human tissue and brain tissue.
		Secondly, I guess theoretically it would make us more susceptible to HAARP.
		And again, if I can harp on this, if you'll let me get away with that, it's the electromagnetic smog in cities that you are exposed to as a trucker, that we're all exposed to, that is, to me, of even greater concern because this is daily,
		and these are a multitude of frequencies and intensities, and any aluminum in our bodies or any chemical in the air is going to enhance the conductivity of this electromagnetic pollution, which I've written about in my book, Scorched Earth.
		And this is very serious indeed.
		I don't take away from HAARP, but HARP is not on continuously.
		The smog is 24 hours a day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy.
		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		I'm on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on.
unidentified		Okay.
		I've been wanting to get a hold of you.
		I'm up in northeast Washington, north of Spokane.
		We do have the spraying at night.
		We live in a canyon that goes north-south, and normally there weren't any planes up here until they started spraying.
		Our skies have been white as much as not.
		Summer of 99, we had snow every month of the year on one of the high passes up here.
		June, four inches in July, two or three inches in August, September, October, the whole year.
		It was the only year they've ever had was snow every month.
		But the next summer, we had fires up here.
		JP8 is flammable.
		Suddenly we had nice blue skies, no spraying.
		And the other thing I'm curious about, I heard them talking on your HARP program the other night about creating holes in the ozone that would cause the lower atmosphere to go up and fill the hole.
		Would that cause a weather high that would sit over us since those fires?
		Because we had those high big enough to suck the clouds from the Mexico monsoons down in Arizona clear up here.
		We didn't have any rain from them because the moisture wasn't there.
		But we were so darn dry last summer with all those fires, and now we've had a high sit on us all winter long.
		We had highs from October until just a week or so ago.
		The high was 30.
		The lows were down in the teens and the zeros.
		No snow.
		Two or three inches here, three or four inches there.
		We haven't had enough snow to shake a stick at, but we have been dang near freezing to death with the highs sitting over us, and the weather would come in on the coast and go up into Canada north of us and go down the Bitter Roots in Montana, or it would go down the coast to California.
		And it seems like we have had a high sitting here for dang near a year.
		But as a result, we've got extremely low water in the Roosevelt dam behind.
		They've been putting a foot of water a day over Grand Coulee Dam, and we're down lower than we've been in 70 years.
		Apple crops and everything else could take a loss because of it.
		You can pay people not to raise wheat or peas or whatever, but apple crops have to be watered or they die.
		And it just seems like there's too much going on to call it all coincidence.
		And why northeast Washington, where there's usually more water than anywhere in the country?
		One of your guests commented that the safest place if you want water was between Glacier National Park and Vancouver, Canada.
		We've had a drought for over a year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think one of the answers is it's everywhere now.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		I appreciate you being on.
		I've got your book and your tape, and I support what you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you are, Will.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you very much.
		And, of course, what your caller has described is a radical kink in the jet stream, which is moving these high-pressure areas around.
		And here on the west coast, on Hornby Island and the islands here, we are also setting records for sunshine, records for lack of rainfall here on the rain coast of Canada.
		And our wells are drying up as well.
		And we have major disturbances in the jet stream that could be related to climate change and could be related to HARP, and I believe actually related to a multiplicity of interacting factors.
		And boy, we had better not mess around with an atmosphere already on the verge of chaos in the scientific sense of that word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, I'm with you there.
		The old mother nature thing.
		First time calling our line, you're on the air with William Thomas Cheerio.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is me.
		Okay.
		I thank you for taking my call.
		I'm calling from Southern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And it was either February 21st or February 22nd.
		We had a beautiful blue sky for a change.
		And somebody used it for a chalkboard up there.
		And a few days later, my son suddenly came down quite ill, fever of 104.
		Currently, he's been into the doctor every day for the last 10 days.
		And he is currently tealing from his feet and from his hands.
		Do you have any comments or suggestions?
		I have contacted the county health department as of yesterday.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Well, we are, and I myself have encountered severe rashes and itching.
		People are reporting sores on their faces.
		I don't have a good handle on how widespread that is.
		I'm very concerned by your report of actual peeling skin.
		I know that William Wallace's animals took sick and the skin peeled off one of his dogs and the dog died.
unidentified		None of the tests are coming back.
		All the tests are showing negative for meningitis, PREP, everything.
		And the doctors are baffled, but they're not doing anything.
		And I'm just wondering, what are the long-term implications of this?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Again, it seems to be, you know, everyone's individual.
		I've written on health for years, and everyone's immune system is different.
		Our genetic disposition, age, gender, things like that.
		Children are especially susceptible, of course, as are the elderly.
		And all I can do is urge listeners to take care of your family and yourselves, boost your immune systems with supplements, watch your diet, don't eat foods dusted with pesticides derived from chemical warfare.
		Love the heck out of each other.
		That's one of the best immune boosters going.
		And just take care to stay strong and for God's sake, stay away from vaccines.
unidentified		Well, I've posted on Art's website, so there's some information there.
unidentified		If you'd like more, let me know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
unidentified		And thank you very much for all your research, both of you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
unidentified		You too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with William Thomas.
unidentified		Well.
		Hello.
		Hi.
		Will, I think your research is wonderful.
		This is Vicki in Hawaii.
		And Art, I really got to talk to you about the UFO situation.
		I emailed you those.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that would be another time, though.
unidentified		No, Art, wait.
unidentified		It's related to the contrails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, go.
unidentified		Will, there is a major cover-up going on by the military, but it's because the contrails are being produced by UFOs.
unidentified		That's what those white planes are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, unless they're disguising themselves as airplanes, they certainly appear to be airplanes.
unidentified		I'm telling you, they are.
unidentified		Get out your binoculars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		telling you they appear to be airplanes but the next time one comes by Look above it.
		I will get out my binoculars and take a look.
		I actually did see one UFO in the comtrail of an airplane here in the desert.
unidentified		I'm not talking about one UFO.
		I'm talking about hundreds of them.
		And for the last time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I will keep my eye on them.
		I promise you we'll see.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with William Thomas.
		Not a lot of time.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
		Where are you?
		Pat in Fort Worth.
		My husband had a dream that they were spraying the sky when they got through.
		It was all cloudy.
		I actually heard a friend of our meteorist say the other day, well, here's some contrails someone sent in, and then the sky got all cloudy.
		But I wanted to say that the Lord told me to take vitamin C last year, and I've been doing it, and the government came out and said it's bad for you, so it's gone down in price.
		It's helped me, but I haven't been sick in a year.
		I looked out one day, and one of those contrails was so low, it's almost like you could touch it.
		And I was sick for months, so I have not been sick in a year, and I go along with that.
		It boosts your immune system.
		There's something going on there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't the Lord, it's my wife that makes me take vitamin C, but I guess the effect is probably the same.
		William, we're woefully out of time here.
		I want to get the information out one more time.
		Your video, professionally produced, that people could get to various cable outlets or TV stations or wherever, and your book are both available by calling during the day, daylight hours, business hours, 1-800-898-0284.
		That's 1-800-898-0284.
		And we want to get your email address on one more time.
		That would be Will Thomas, W-I-L-L-T-H-O-M-A-S, at TELUS, that's T-E-L-U-S.net.
		Will Thomas at TELUS, T-E-L-U-S.net.
		Is there anything else you want to get on before the show does what it always does about now and that's end?
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, quickly.
		This has seems very overwhelming and very scary.
		And I would ask listeners, let's put our fear in a chair over in the corner, give it a cup of tea, and let's get together and remember that real power has nothing to do with jet aircraft, oil wells, weaponry.
		Real power is the spirit moving through all of us.
		Prayer works.
		Shared intention works.
		Getting together proactively will work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does work.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Find out, search the internet for Cactus.
		I'll put a link on my site.
		That's the U.S. Citizens Action Group around chemtrails.
		Get involved, get active, get in the face of media, and let's get this stopped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By far the best program we've ever done on chemtrails, William.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I really appreciate this tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get some rest.
william thomas ▲ ● ▼		I will.
unidentified		Later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, that's it.
		Tomorrow night, Evelyn Paglini is going to be here, and we're going to tread upon the dark side of witchcraft.
		So if that kind of program bothers you, you're going to want to tune out.
		If you're curious, well, we'll be here tomorrow.

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