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Feb. 21, 2001 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Mad Cow Disease - Dr. Lorraine Day
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Hey everybody, coming up in a moment is Dr. Lorraine Day, highly credentialed, very well
thought of.
She's going to talk about mad cow disease and a lot more.
I know it's been a long time, actually, since Dr. Day and I have come together on these
It's always an interesting trip.
Quite a ride, and you're in for it coming up.
We just heard from Ricky Rohr.
Didn't get first hour, you missed that.
He's president of the Raelian religion, and they are preparing to clone the first human child.
A child who died, a young girl who died at 10 months.
They've got the tissue, and they're well on their way to human cloning.
That was quite an interview.
So, all of that directly ahead if you will simply strap in and get ready.
All right.
Here we go.
Dr. Day, Dr. Lorraine Day, is an internationally acclaimed orthopedic surgeon, lecturer, and best-selling author.
She was for 15 years, now listen carefully, on the faculty of the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine as Associate Professor and Vice Chairman of the Department of Orthopedic Surgery.
She was also Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital.
She has impressive credentials and vast experience in the public media, has been invited to lecture extensively throughout the U.S.
and the world, appearing on 400 radio and TV shows.
That's a lot, including 60 Minutes, Nightline, CNN, Crossfire, Oprah Winfrey, Larry King Live, Hosted her own nationally syndicated radio program entitled Truth Serum.
She's the author of the best-selling book, AIDS, What the Government Isn't Telling You.
Dr. Day developed severe advanced cancer, biopsy proven at two major U.S.
medical centers, but she refused chemotherapy.
We had a photograph of that tumor on our website, and it was incredible.
In fact, Keith, if you have it, put it back up there.
But she refused chemotherapy, radiation, and mutilating surgery.
All the methods she was taught during her medical training because of their destructive side effects.
She chose instead to rebuild her immune system using the natural, simple, inexpensive therapies designed by God and available to everyone so her body could heal itself.
It's been too long.
Dr. Day, welcome back.
Well, thank you very much.
It's good to be back.
Oh, gosh, it's great to have you and hear your voice again.
Thank you.
Alright, before we move forward, last hour I had Ricky Rohr, who's president of the Raelian Religion, and they are now cloning a human baby.
What do you think about that?
Well, I think it'll probably be a disaster.
When they do things like that in science, it always turns out to be a disaster.
At the beginning, it may look good, but everything that science does in a major way turns out to be a disaster.
Now you're going to say, oh no, there are good things like transplant surgery.
No, transplant surgery is really a disaster.
It is?
Yeah.
Why?
And the reason is this.
In order to transplant an organ into somebody else's body, you have to destroy the patient's own immune system so they will not reject the transplant.
That's true.
When you do that, the person has to stay on immunosuppressive drugs.
Indefinitely, for the rest of their life.
Those drugs then slowly kill them.
But if you needed, for example, a liver, and you didn't get one, that would quickly kill you.
Well, the thing is, what you can do is reverse the liver disease.
You don't have to get somebody else's liver.
You don't have to get somebody else's heart.
There is a way to reverse these diseases, just like I reversed my cancer.
You know, that's an interesting thing.
It may sound silly, but I've got a beloved cat I own, and my cat's liver shut down.
I mean, it just stopped.
And with the vet, the first vet we went to said, you're going to have to put your cat down.
You know, the liver's gone.
The cat is yellow.
Ammonia smell.
It's just, it's dying.
We took it to another vet, you know, a really whoop-de-doo vet, a natural veterinarian in Las Vegas.
By God, it took three weeks, but our cat's liver turned back on.
One day, like somebody threw a switch, the liver turned back on and the cat's bouncing around now.
There you go.
Okay?
And thousands of people in this country have done the same thing with every kind of disease known to man.
Thousands with cancer have reversed their cancer by following a natural plan.
People with Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, AIDS, AIDS has been reversed by following a totally natural plan.
Why don't you hear about this on the national media?
I'll tell you why.
Let's just look at cancer.
The income generated for the pharmaceutical companies, even organized medicine, the income for the care of cancer patients, just cancer patients in the U.S.
for the last 20 years, their care, their diagnosis, their medical treatment, And the tests done on them amounted to between four and seven trillion dollars in 20 years.
That's a lot of money.
That's right.
Okay, do you think that they want a non-inexpensive, a natural method to heal any of these diseases?
Now again, I'm not saying that your doctor is a bad person.
Your doctor doesn't really know What's really going on at a higher level?
Doctors are taught only two things, drugs and surgery.
They don't know.
Alright, but you were a big part of that.
I mean, here you were chief of surgery, orthopedic surgery.
Right.
So you did a lot of those operations, replaced a lot of those parts, probably hips and God knows what all else.
Right.
How do you get from that, as mainstream as you can be, to where you are now?
How do you make that trip?
Well, first of all, when I was replacing hips, I wasn't doing it with somebody else's hip.
It was being done with metal and plastic, which is better than somebody else's, although it's not ideal.
But I thought all along the way, I thought, this is really barbaric.
We ought to be able to reverse arthritis.
We ought to be able to reverse many of these diseases.
This is craziness to put metal and plastic in people.
And then, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to say, to treat cancer, With something that causes cancer doesn't make any sense.
You see, both radiation and chemotherapy cause cancer.
I said, when I developed cancer, I said, why would I want to do that to myself?
I already have cancer.
I don't need more cancer.
And that's what it does.
At first, it gives you a false sense of security because it can, both of them, can reduce the size of your tumor.
But while they're doing it, they're destroying your immune system.
And so then you die from that.
Well, in some cases, that kind of, it's a blunderbuss kind of therapy, I understand, radiation chemotherapy, but occasionally it does work.
In other words, it manages to kill the cancer before it destroys your immune system beyond its recovery ability, right?
There are some people who survive in spite of the treatment, yes.
They survive in spite of it, and that just tells you the tremendous resiliency of the human body.
You can be, you know, shot with poison or radiation.
There are some people who survived Hiroshima, too.
Doesn't mean it was good for you.
That's right, and we used to bleed people, too, huh?
That's right.
That's right.
Well, we are here mostly to talk about Mad Cow tonight.
You know what?
Let us begin at the beginning because Even though I think I understand some things about mad cow, frankly, I don't even really know what mad cow disease is.
What is it?
Well, mad cow disease, if we just stick to the cow version, in humans it's actually called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
Creutzfeldt and Jakob were the two doctors that described the symptoms of a disease like mad cow disease in humans.
The symptoms in cows, first of all, the common name is mad cow disease.
The real name is bovine spongiform encephalopathy, which is just a sort of a Latin term for bovine means cow, spongiform means you have sponge-like holes in the brain, encephalo means brain, and pathy means a pathological condition.
So all they're doing is describing what they find.
And it's a progressive neurologic disorder that is transmitted From one animal to another, or by eating the meat of an animal, or by taking the blood in from someone who has it, something like that.
When did Mad Cow begin?
How old is this disease?
Well, our government has known about the dangers of it since 1976.
It's probably been around a lot longer than that, because they've been doing rendering, meaning feeding dead, diseased animal parts to other animals for a long, long time, since apparently longer before 1976.
Are we sure that's what causes it?
Well, if you go back to the very beginning, even if you feed dead animal parts to another animal, And those animals that are the dead ones are infected.
It had to start someplace, the first case, right?
Right.
Case zero.
All right.
So how does case zero start?
Prions, which are supposedly the infective agent in mad cow disease, are thought to cause the disease.
What is a prion?
A prion is a protein molecule You can have normal prions in your body or you can have Kreutzfeldt-Jakob protein prions which mean they cause this disease, air felt to, which are a distorted folding of a normal prion.
Now a prion is a protein molecule and they are quite astounded because they say this is the first time That you have a molecule that causes disease that can replicate itself, which does not contain any DNA or RNA.
And so they're all astounded by this.
But let me tell you this.
Right up front, I'll tell you, this molecule that has been named a prion by Dr. Stan Prusiner, who won the Nobel Prize for discovering it.
He won the Nobel Prize in 1997.
in 1997, this agent was really discovered over 150 years ago by a contemporary of Louis
Pasteur named Antoine Beauchamp.
Now, I don't know whether Stan Prusiner knows this or not.
I've got to talk to him on the phone.
Stan and I were residents together at UC San Francisco, in fact.
Stan did some of his work on the prions for the Nobel Prize in my laboratory at UC San Francisco.
Not that he's a close friend of mine, but he and I are friends.
And I need to talk to him about this, because he may not know Antoine Beauchamp already discovered this.
All that time ago, a prion.
That's right, and in fact it's been rediscovered throughout time, once by a man named Royal Reif.
All right, yes.
Yes, Royal Reif discovered them, and also a man living now called Gaston Nessons in Canada, Montreal, he also discovered them, called them somatids.
Beauchamp called them microzymas.
The reason I say it's the same thing is because they have exactly the same physical characteristics.
One of the main characteristics they have is you cannot destroy them.
You cannot kill them.
Oh, yes, I've heard that.
In other words, people, for example, burned bodies of the infected animals in giant funeral pyres.
That wasn't worth a toot, was it?
That's right.
It wasn't worth anything.
They say, oh, we're grinding the bodies up, making them into ash, and then we're incinerating them.
Well, good luck!
They admit That incinerating them doesn't destroy the organism.
Right.
When you burn this body, what happens to the prions that are not destroyed?
Well, they're still there.
Or, you know, they go up in the ash.
In the air?
Right.
Where, conceivably, somebody or something could breathe them and become infected?
Well, you know, they say that there's no evidence that that can happen.
Of course, the way they say there's no evidence that that can happen is they never do the studies.
I'm an old hand at their silliness and their lying because I was heavily involved in the AIDS epidemic and in exposing the government and organized medicine's handling of that.
They're doing exactly the same thing with mad cow disease.
So, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that a prion from a burned animal could be dispensed in an aerosol-type way, in ash or whatever, to another animal and spread that away?
Well, you know, again, the thing is that they say there's no evidence of that.
I'm telling you, they've never done any studies.
Oh, then you have to imagine it's... That it is a possibility.
But you see, they don't have to even worry about that, because when they feed rendered animal parts, which just means animal parts that aren't fit for consumption by animals or humans, they feed that to animals, the animals are going to get sick, and they're going to be fed diseased parts, and so they're going to get it that way.
You don't have to worry about it being aerosolized.
Okay, here's something I would like to understand.
Let's see, how can I put this so it makes sense?
Is it the process of feeding rendered animals to other animals that actually caused this or is that simply the main method of communication?
Do you follow me?
Yeah, well, it's part of both.
The way it had to start at the beginning was animals, first of all, sheep and cows are vegetarians.
That's what they're supposed to graze.
Right.
When you start feeding them meat, their system starts breaking down.
Even if you're not feeding them meat that is contaminated, their system starts breaking down because they are not meant to eat that stuff.
So then their immune systems are depressed?
Yes.
That's right.
And their systems start getting sick.
And their immune system gets suppressed.
Because they're not getting the right nutrition for their bodies and they cannot handle meat because they're vegetarians.
The second thing is, when they started factory farming decades ago, they started putting these animals in pens instead of letting them graze.
They started force-feeding them.
They started giving them hormones and antibiotics because they were getting so sick because they were being force-fed.
They were put in the pens.
They were very close together.
And when you start doing that to animals, they get sick.
And then when they would die, then they grind them up and feed them to more animals.
When you do this, the animals get sick.
You see, the prion is not really the cause of the disease.
The prion is the result of an animal that has dead and dying tissue in its body because of the way it's being raised and fed.
All right?
That's what happens with us.
You see, Bacteria and viruses are not really the cause of disease.
Now you'll say, oh my, well, certainly the germ theory is true.
No, it's not.
Louis Pasteur promoted the germ theory.
When he did 150 years ago, it had already been disproven.
The germ theory is incorrect.
But all of orthodox medicine is based on the germ theory.
Let me give you an example.
Well, let me give you one.
I fly to the Super Bowl.
I'm on an airplane with a whole bunch of people who are sneezing and coughing and snotting all over the place.
Right.
I come home a few days later, I start coming down with a cold.
Right.
How is that not the germ theory?
Let me give you an example.
They have taken human experimental subjects who have agreed to do this.
They've taken pure cold virus, they've put it up their nose.
Pure cold virus in their nose.
But they're feeding cold water and have blown cold breezes on them.
Do you know how many people get a cold?
Why never believe that cold stuff anyway?
Seventeen percent.
Seventeen percent.
Okay.
The reason is the strength of their immune system at the time they get exposed.
You have been around people who have had a terrible cold at times and you didn't get it, right?
It's happened.
Alright.
Why?
Um, because I didn't, well, I might make the argument that I didn't suck up the germ.
Well, no, I mean, the thing is, you've got germs all around you right now.
You're breathing in millions of them.
I know, but they're my germs.
No, they're everybody else's germs that are around you.
Well, I live in a very isolated place.
You do go out of the house sometimes.
Well, yes, sometimes.
Okay, so the whole point is you have bacteria on your skin.
Yes, yes, of course.
And if you take a person into a hospital, they can get infected with their own bacteria on their skin if they're sick enough.
Yeah, I've heard that.
Okay, because we are surrounded by bacteria and viruses all the time.
We have bacteria in our nose, we have them in our mouth, we have them normally in our gastrointestinal tract.
Why don't they attack us?
Because only when our immune systems are suppressed are we susceptible to these viruses and bacteria.
But they're not there to cause disease.
We are so ignorant in medicine that we say, oh, we see a bacteria and virus in contact with diseased tissue, so therefore it caused it.
Here's an illustration.
Alright, hold the illustration.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
We'll be right back.
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All right, Dr. Lorraine Day is my guest, and by the way...
Oh Sort of on the medical side, we have more MRI evidence tonight.
Damnedest thing you ever saw.
Apparently this poor fellow who was cleaning the floors, and was a new guy in the hospital, came with a floor scrubber, which is metallic, into an MRI room.
The floor scrubber took off across the room, and now it's ensconced entirely in this MRI machine.
If you were wondering about the size of an electromagnetic field inside an MRI machine, We've got more visual evidence on my website right now at www.artbell.com.
Now, this is completely out of left field, but I've got to ask, since Dr. Day is a doctor, and I'm sure had a lot to do with MRI.
Doctor, about a week ago, a young lady called my program when we were doing an open line session, and she said she was an MRI tech, and had been working with MRIs for years and years.
And of course, they're monstrous electromagnetic fields, and she said that she had been seeing unusual things for years, would never have talked about it to anybody else, but she blamed it on constantly working around the large electromagnetic field.
We are, after all, electromagnetic beings, and so is it possible that Such a large electromagnetic field could cause biological anomalies in human beings.
Oh, absolutely, because I've always been concerned about MRIs.
They're touted as being safer because they're not radiation, but what they do is they turn your cells in a different direction than they're actually going.
That cannot be good for you.
And I'm sure that down the line we'll probably hear of terrible things that are the result of MRIs.
Well, people really didn't know the power of the electromagnetic field, and so we've been putting up some things to demonstrate it.
In this case, some poor fellow came strolling along with a floor cleaner, and the machine was on, and the floor cleaner is now in the machine.
I saw that picture.
I went to your website.
It is amazing!
Just think about putting people in that kind of magnetic field.
I've been there.
Some people are having one MRI after another because of certain conditions and this cannot be good for a person to be constantly in that magnetic field because there are magnetic fields on the body and on the felt in fact the felt that the body
is a an electrical organ you bet how we are just a big battery
and and there are surface charges on every fell and when you start
uh... fooling around with that by putting magnetic fields we now
if the i a m i started that doing experiments with electrical
stimulation of bone healing way back in the seventies
Some of the first studies I did with Carl Brighton at the University of Pennsylvania, who was one of the original investigators, including Dr. Becker, who has written The Body Electric.
You can cause bone to heal faster with magnetic and electrical fields.
However, if you have the wrong I want to read something that you wrote, and we'll proceed from here, getting back to Mad Cow.
Dr. Day wrote to me, and she welcomed me back, and said, there's another big cover-up going on, and that's the Mad Cow epidemic in its related forms, and pig, sheep, chickens, etc., which will make AIDS seem like a day at the beach.
Yes, an epidemic that is sweeping around the world will cause unprecedented death and devastation.
It's in this country right now, even though the authorities are denying it, as they always do.
Now, more than ever, people need to understand that there is a way to avoid this dreaded, fatal disease, but it's not just in the food chain.
It's in gelatin capsules, fillers, and processed foods, cosmetics, gelatin as a binder, and supplement pills, and so forth and so on.
That's a pretty strong statement, Doctor.
That's right.
You stand by that?
Yes.
What makes us think that these prions, these malformed prions, or would you say disease prions?
I don't know what you'd say.
Malformed, I guess.
Malformed.
That have reached this country and have already done damage.
How can you know that?
Well, first of all, the government admits that there are hundreds of thousands of downer cows in America.
They've even done shows on those.
And on major television that cows that seem to be fine one night are fall over dead the next day.
OK?
OK.
If you take those cows and grind them up and feed them to mink, they will get mad mink disease.
Really?
Yes.
And they will admit that.
But they say, well, but and then if you if you take those mink and feed them back to the cows, Or inject it into the cow's brain, they will get mad cow disease.
Alright?
But see, what they're trying to do is they're trying to tell the American public that downer cows do not have mad cow disease.
Well, what is a downer cow?
It's just a cow that drops dead.
I assume they do autopsies on these cows to find out what caused it to drop dead.
Do they find these malformed prions?
Well, they're not looking for prions.
They're looking for the sponge-like brain.
But then they say, well, they don't have exactly the same things they find in the cows in Britain.
But you see, you can have variants of that.
What they find is when they grind those cows up and feed them to mink, they get mad mink disease.
So they're getting the same kind of disease.
And then looking for prions, Just because whether you find a prion or not, you're saying that if a prion is in contact with damaged tissue or diseased tissue, that it's the cause of the disease.
As I was saying before the break, let's talk about whether they are the cause of the disease or not, because do flies cause garbage?
No, garbage attracts flies.
Correct?
Correct.
Alright, and if you see a dead animal erode and vultures are eating it, The vultures did not attract the dead animal.
The dead animal attracted the vulture.
It is the dead and dying tissue that attracts the cleanup crew.
Bacteria and viruses are the cleanup crew.
When they come in, they are attacking the already dead and dying tissue in your body that got that way because of the way we eat and the way we live.
And so they're actually our friends.
They come in and they start to clean up the mess and when they do, they clean out the toxins, pour it into your bloodstream so your bloodstream can get rid of it.
But when they do so, those toxins give you symptoms.
Then you go to the doctor and the doctor says you have a disease because you have these symptoms and will give you a drug to stop these symptoms.
But then you still have a dirty body that needs to be cleaned out and it will just wait for another sickness to come along.
You see what I mean?
Yes.
Maggots.
Every doctor who's worked in a community hospital has had some indigent patients who have not come back on time when they had an open wound, and they'll come back later with maggots in the wound.
The maggots, I've seen many of these patients.
The maggots will eat up the dead and dying tissue.
They will not touch the normal tissue.
You know, I've got a story on that.
It's pretty horrible, but that really is true, isn't it?
They are very good.
They clean up a wound better than anything.
It's all ready for skin grafting once they're done with it.
Okay?
We don't use them anymore on a regular basis, but many patients who live on the street will come in with maggots in their wound.
And the wounds are beautifully clean.
But they never touch the healthy tissue.
You see, there is a cleanup crew at all levels of the animal kingdom.
There are the vultures that clean up the obvious dead animal on the road.
And there are the maggots that clean up the dead tissue in a wound, and there are bacteria and viruses that clean up on a cellular level the garbage in our bodies that gets there by the way we eat and the way we live.
Prions are part of this.
The microzyma discovered by Antoine Béchamp 150 years ago is the Most likely the same thing that Gaspin Naissons in Montreal discovered 40 or 50 years ago which he called the somatid.
When your immune system is working properly, the somatid goes through a three-stage cycle.
But when your immune system is not working properly because you're not feeding it right, you're not living right, you're not sleeping right, you're not getting enough fresh air and sunshine and learning how to handle your stress, your body starts breaking down.
Then the Somacid, which is most likely the same thing as a prion, it will go into another conformational change and become whatever your body needs.
Gaston Nathans has taken pictures of these things as they change into a bacteria, a virus, a fungus, whatever you need to clean out the process it will change into and this is highly likely that this is this conformational change prion.
So in the United States, if they look at a cow that's died and they see a malformed prion, and it doesn't match the malformed prion, In Europe, where they know they have mad cow disease, they say, well, it's not the same thing?
Well, they're not really looking at a malformed prion, because you can't really see those, well, the way they're looking at them.
You can on high-powered microscopes that others outside of orthodox medicine have invented, but what they're really looking for is the gross pathological changes, and gross, I don't mean grotesque, I mean Macro instead of microscopic.
They'll look at a cow's brain and if it doesn't have the holes in it like a sponge like it does in Britain, they'll say, this cow doesn't have mad cow disease.
That's what they're doing.
How would you imagine that the British form of mad cow could come to the U.S.
or did come to the U.S.
depending on what you believe?
Oh well, they've exported Thousands of pounds of feed to us.
The feed, which is these high-protein pellets, which is ground up dead animals.
So, are you suggesting that it's too late, in a way?
That all of this is already underway and it's going to be worldwide?
Yes.
Well, in fact, the UN says it's going to be worldwide.
Doctor, I know that you're not big on this, but I'm a big beef eater.
I love beef.
Beef is really good.
I order a beef dish over anything else when I go to a restaurant.
Is the jig up for me?
Well, the thing is, here's the thing.
Everybody in America, almost everybody, is a big beef eater.
There is a way to escape and reverse the damage that's already done, even if you have ingested Some bad meat.
First of all, the incubation period can be as long as 20 years.
20 years!
However, even babies have gotten it, so it can be a very short incubation period.
And once the symptoms start, death is usually very rapid within a year or so.
But the thing is that you can reverse all disease.
They say this is 100% fatal, but that's not true.
You can't reverse it.
I know, but I remember the way you reversed your cancer.
Right.
Incredible story, to be sure.
But you drank enough carrot juice to turn into a carrot.
You turned orange, right?
Only my palms.
Your palms?
Yeah, not my skin.
Only my palms, because I was handling the carrot.
But the point is, it wasn't just the carrot juice.
But I started getting all of the bad things out of my diet.
You can reverse it if you clean out your body.
But you have to clean out your body of these things.
And again, if people continue to eat these, the idea that they're telling us it is not in America, what they're doing is they're just flat-out lying to us.
They're flat-out lying.
They're flat-out lying.
And that's what they did with the AIDS epidemic for years.
1983 and 1984, I was operating on lots of AIDS patients and I said, this has got to be dangerous because now you've told us you can get it from blood.
And so then they said, oh no, but even though you get stuck in the operating room, there's not enough blood that you're going to get exposed to.
And so then when they said drug addicts can get it from needle sticks, I went to them and I said, You say drug addicts can get it from needle sticks.
We get stuck in the operating room and they say, oh, well, health care workers can't get it from needle sticks.
I said, oh, really?
You know, someone has lost their mind here.
And it was just a flat-out lie.
I found out later, on October 2, 1987, the first nurse that they admitted had gotten AIDS from a single needle stick in the country, and she was a nurse at the hospital where I worked.
Now, they finally admitted that healthcare workers could get aid from needle sticks.
However, I realized at that time that either they had known before and weren't telling, or they should have known and didn't.
They just had to be stupid.
Which you... Well, I found out later that they had known two years earlier because I later met the man Who investigated the cases two years earlier, found out definitely that nurses had gotten AIDS from a single needle stick, and kept after the Centers for Disease Control to publish this.
And his name is Gus Thermos.
He wrote a book that we carry called Doctors of Deceit and the AIDS Epidemic.
He was the investigator that investigated the cases.
And when he said, you've got to tell the public, you've got to tell the health care workers, They just then isolated him in a room with nothing to do and said, you'll sit here until you quit.
You'll sit here until you quit?
That's right.
Okay, so that I understand, again, this part is a mystery to me.
People say that it was a process of feeding the dead to the living, rendered animals to living animals, that Actually caused this, but that might be not true, or they might not ever know.
Certainly it is a method of transmission, we know that, but we don't know for sure that's actually what caused it, do we?
Well, if you take a child and you feed it chocolate bars for every meal, that child will eventually get sick, right?
More fat.
Well, it'll get sick.
Yeah, sure, it'll get sick.
It'll get sick and fat.
Of course, you couldn't feed it.
That's right.
You have to feed your body what it needs to build new cells.
Otherwise, you get sick and die.
Sure.
Okay.
Now, when you have a car that's a diesel engine and you put regular gas in it, it's not going to work right.
No, it isn't.
Okay, so you've got to put the right fuel in the right machine.
Yes, I agree.
Horses and cows and deer are vegetarian.
Yes.
The bad news, maybe for you and others listening, is human beings are also vegetarians.
Now you might say, oh no, we all eat meat.
If you look at the intestine of a human being and compare it to the intestine of the horse, the deer, and the cow, it's 30 feet long, it's long and coiled, it's totally different from the intestine of a meat eater.
And so when you start feeding the wrong things to any Animal or human being.
Eventually, they will get sick.
But, to be technically accurate here, we don't really know what caused Case Zero of Mad Cow.
It could have been an errant bit of radiation hitting a prion in the wrong way and malforming it and beginning the whole thing.
And then the transmission, of course, obviously, if you feed the dead to the living.
That's going to cause a transmission, particularly with pre-arms, which last forever or something.
Well, really, if you've got a healthy animal, you can't infect it.
You have to have animals who have their immune system suppressed by the way you're farming them.
Because, again, you can get contaminated food, but if your system is clean and your immune system is working well, you will not get sick.
Well, I know, but at what price?
And the price to have yourself cleaned out and to have a really top-notch immune system is going to be turning into a bunny rabbit.
Well, you can say that until you're sick.
When you're sick, it doesn't look so bad.
Well, I hear you there.
In other words, when you're dying, and it's a painful death.
There's no arguing with what you did.
When you see your child starting to stumble and fall and become demented, it's not too high a price to pay.
But you know what?
Now, you can argue with this, and I'm sure you will, but I've seen a lot of vegetarians who look emaciated.
They look not so good.
They're skinny, they don't look well, they don't look healthy.
Now, maybe they're not eating the right veggies, I have no idea, but I have seen that, Doctor, and you compare that to a good old meat eater and they look pretty flushed and healthy.
Well, I can tell you I have seen a lot of pale and sickly meat eaters because they're sick, okay?
And the thing is, how do you know who you see that's a vegetarian?
What you see is, if you see somebody emaciated, you assume or ask if they're a vegetarian.
You have seen my picture.
I have.
I am a vegetarian.
You are.
I do not look sickly and emaciated.
No, you don't.
I have thousands of friends who don't look sickly and emaciated either.
Actually, you look quite good.
Doctor, hold on, we're at the top of the hour.
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My guest is the carrot lady, Dr. Lorraine Day.
And before you chuckle too much like I do about all of this, I would suggest you go visit my website right now, Keith.
Thanks to Keith, once again.
We have actually put up photographs of the tumor that Dr. Day had.
This is no ordinary tumor.
I think I told Dr. Day before, it's more like something out of the movie Alien.
It was gigantic.
It was a horrible, horrible malignant tumor.
We've got photographs of it up there, and she cured herself of that in the way she's describing.
Now, what I would suggest to you is going to my website, and when you get there, just go to... let's see...
Not bookmarks, Arthur.
Back.
Okay, here we go.
You go to Program on the left-hand side, Tonight's Guest Info.
You'll see Ricky Rohr from CloneAid, and then below that, Dr. Day, my current guest.
And you will see graphic photos, Tumor 1, Tumor View 1, Tumor View 2.
And you, in your life, have never seen anything as horrible As this, this had to be close to a terminal situation for the doctor.
It's graphic photographic evidence.
Understand that it is very graphic, but you will hear how she cured herself of that.
And so, chuckle along as I may in some areas.
This is very serious and what she's saying should carry a lot of weight.
I mean, you're talking about somebody with Don't ask me why I save things like this, but I do.
credentials that was gone the other way completely so it bears listening to
and she'll be back in a moment doctor lorraine
don't have any why i say things like this but i do the following is an email i received that i've been saving
for an appropriate moment and you'd go with you think they'd never be one but
this is are different of mine
one of the divers that stay at my house got married and went to south america on
honeymoon.
After he got back, he had this bite mark on his leg that itched.
He did the normal things that you do for an insect bite, but it kept getting worse.
He showed it to me when he was here.
He noticed that the festering wound sometimes changed shape, and he could feel something moving inside.
He looked up tropical insects and came across botflies.
Went to the doctor, suggested that he was perhaps carrying a botfly larva.
They all laughed at him, but decided to open the wound and irrigate it to clean out the infection.
When they injected lidocaine to numb the skin, the bug didn't like it, stuck his head out of the hole, and looked around.
It, unlike the maggots, eat good flesh, And by eating, uh, makes his, uh, home bigger as he grows.
The doctor stopped the procedure, and all the other doctors that were at the hospital to watch the removal of the botfly.
They put it into a bottle and kept it.
He asked for it back, but they refused to, saying it was the only sample they had, and they needed to study South America has some nasty bots.
But, in another case, when they cut into his leg, it was full of maggots.
They said it was what saved him.
That the maggots eat only the dead tissue and then leave, you know, as flies.
Oh, Lordy.
But so it's true, Doctor.
Maggots actually could save you.
Well, that's correct.
Again, every level of nature has a clean-up crew.
And that is the clean-up crew for that level.
And the bacteria, viruses, fungi, and prions are the clean-up crew for the microscopic level.
But we don't actually, again, we don't really know what caused that first prion to malform or whatever happened to it that caused it to become... Actually, we do.
We do.
We do know because, again, orthodox medicine will not admit this, but all disease is caused by a violation of ten laws of health, alright?
Now, you know that there are laws that govern the nature, such as law of gravity, right?
The Law of Gravity is working whether you know about it or not, whether you like it or not, right?
It's working.
True.
Pull or push, whatever, it works.
That's right.
And the Laws of Momentum and Inertia and the Laws of the Tides, they're all working whether we know about them, whether we like them, whether we disagree with them or not, they work.
Yes.
There are laws about our bodies.
There are laws of health that are working whether we know about them, Or not.
Whether we want to be in concert with them or against them, they are still working.
Just like I said, if you feed a kid chocolate for every meal, the child will get sick.
And if you keep feeding them chocolate for every meal, they will eventually die.
A premature death.
There are those laws that work.
Now, if we never exercise, we will start getting certain kinds of diseases.
If we're never out in the sun, we will not be healthy.
If we do not breathe fresh air, we will be unhealthy.
If we eat the wrong kind of fuel for our bodies, our bodies will start to break down and get sick, and we will die a premature death under the years that we were supposed to live.
So, these laws in our bodies operate whether we like them or not.
How does a vegetarian get enough protein?
Spinach is 49% protein.
Legumes, beans, rice, grains have plenty of protein in them.
The average American eats four times more protein than they need, and that's one of the things that causes disease, a high-protein diet.
That's one of the things that causes cancer.
In fact, I've got an article right here in front of me put out by the American Cancer Society.
Now, that's about as mainstream as you can get.
Cancer Journal for Clinicians, this is the November-December 1999 issue.
On page 347, they admit that a vegetarian diet coupled with exercise could prevent 33% of cancers.
Now, the Harvard School of Public Health says that those two measures will prevent 66% of cancers.
What about the old quality of life argument?
In other words, if somebody were to tell me now, no more hamburgers, no more steaks, No more barbecue.
None of that.
You're done.
It's spinach time, baby.
Well, I don't know what kind of quality of life that would be.
I mean, if we're calculating years, you're going to talk about quality of life from a health point of view, and I'm going to talk about it from an enjoying life point of view.
Well, there are lots of things that you can eat.
You don't have to eat spinach.
I was just using that as an illustration that people think that, you know, it's hard to get your protein.
There are lots of legumes that have 30 to 35 percent protein.
You really only need a small percentage of protein in your diet, because protein is meant for growth and repair.
Alright, now let's talk about two things.
Quality of life, and we'll talk about the need for protein.
The need for protein is easily handled by a totally vegetarian diet.
The more protein you eat, particularly animal protein, the more osteoporotic you will become, The more milk you drink, the more osteoporotic women will become.
Okay?
Even though the Milk and Dairy Council doesn't want you to know that.
The more meat, poultry and fish and dairy products and eggs you eat, the more prone you are to cancer and virtually every other disease.
The quality of life is relative.
And that is, you get used to eating certain things.
When you are in pain and when you are sick, Nothing else in life matters.
Right.
Okay?
So, if someone took hold of your thumb now and kept pushing it back while you're on the radio, after a while you wouldn't be able to concentrate on anything else except how much your thumb hurt.
Right.
Okay.
So, when you are not in pain... But I take a remote control right here and I bash them over the head until they stop.
When you are not in pain, we have a tendency to want to do what we want to do.
People say to me, I don't like that.
And I say to them, what does that have to do with it?
Are we going to do whatever feels good?
Are we going to look at a later time in our life and make sure that our whole life is healthy rather than saying, I'm going to do whatever I want now and damn be the consequences?
Well, that's most people.
Well, but the whole thing, is that a prudent way to live?
Probably not.
I mean, there is, though, a quality of life argument here, and that is, sure, you might not live as long if you're eating as I eat, for example, and I dearly love beef, but you're sure going to enjoy the time you have.
I mean, there is that argument.
It's not a strict medical argument, certainly.
Far from it.
Well, you know, there are people, it depends, you would think that that would be foolish, For a drug addict to say that, wouldn't you?
I mean, they're destroying their life and they're going to end up in the gutter and die a horrible death.
Now, you say, well, you know, if you just want to do that, I don't think you would instruct your children that that's a good way to live.
No, I certainly would not.
Well, then it's the same sort of thing.
It's just saying, do I want to look forward To a healthy and happy life.
See, what happens is this.
We get our taste, and then we say, that's the only thing I like.
On one of my videos called, You Can't Improve on God, I interview my 85-year-old mother, who liked to eat all sorts of things and was a big sugar-holic.
She got a severe disease called polymyalgia rheumatic.
It's like lupus in that category.
And the doctors wanted to put her on high dose prednisone.
I said, absolutely not.
And I brought her to my house and I started giving her the plan, including the diet part of the plan.
Well, she would sit there and turn up her nose at it.
And I would say to her, you know, you're too sick to fix anything for yourself.
You're just going to eat it.
That's the kind of thing you told me when I was a kid.
All right.
And so we tell our kids that, but when we grow up, We just grow into bigger bodies, and we say, now that I'm not a kid anymore, now I can eat whatever I want.
And you can eat whatever you want, except the natural laws of health are operating.
And when you're well, it seems like it's great fun to do whatever you want.
But when you're sick, it doesn't seem like it was that much fun.
Alright?
See what I mean?
Right.
Yes, right.
Okay?
Because you have not been as sick as I have been.
Very few people in the world have been as sick as you have been, as I mentioned.
I've got those photographs on the website.
Now, of course, I'm not a doctor, but I was a medic in the Air Force, and I've seen tumors, but I have never, in all the years that I've seen tumors, seen a tumor like the one you had.
Right.
Most doctors have never seen a tumor that big because most patients, when they have a tumor that's even very small, go and have radiation and chemotherapy.
Now, I didn't sit around with that tumor like that growing steadily for a long period of time.
That grew very rapidly in a period of three weeks.
However, I would not have had chemotherapy and radiation even if it had been growing slowly.
It's just astoundingly big.
I mean, it had to be.
Had it metastasized at all?
Yes, it had.
It had metastasized.
I had it in the lymph nodes under my arm and in my neck and it was all through the muscles of my chest wall.
So normally that would be an absolute death sentence?
Yes.
And so that everybody knows what you did, you immediately went on your diet.
You want to describe to people what you did to rid yourself of this tumor?
Yes.
I started eating fruits, vegetables, and grains in their most natural form.
I went back to the Garden of Eden diet and started eating just what was natural.
And, you know, the animals were designed to be our friends rather than our dinner.
And so I started eating everything that was natural, and I didn't eat anything that ever had a face on it.
So I started drinking a lot.
I ate three meals a day of natural food, 75% of my food raw.
I cooked my potatoes and my rice and things like that and my grains, but I ate a lot of my vegetables raw because then the enzymes are in it, one of the biggest causes of disease and aging.
If you want to quit, if you want to stop aging and even reverse some aging, you can start eating more of your food raw.
And if you sprout your bean seeds and grains, you will increase their nutritional content by up to 600 or 700% over cooked food.
So I started drinking a lot of fresh homemade vegetable juice too, carrot juice and green leafy vegetable juice to nourish my body because a cancerous body or any body that's diseased has to have a lot of nutrition rapidly.
So I started drinking a juice.
I started eliminating all harmful substances from my diet, no sugar, no caffeine, uh... no nutritious week that none of those things so i
hate no profit and either things that you have been eating
previously correct uh...
you must have gone through uh... aside from the fact that you're very ill you
must have gone through one gigantic with brawl all at once now well that when i when i first did that i wasn't really
ill i only had a small tumor at that time and i did this thing you can say
what you mean the diet didn't work
The diet was the right diet, but it's not enough by itself.
You have to do other things, but I did not.
I just decided I was going to do that.
I decided I didn't want to die.
What gave you the clue, since you had previously been like everybody else, what gave you the clue to start doing this?
I mean, when did the light bulb go off?
What caused it?
Well, when I was speaking out on the AIDS issue all over the world, and I was on all these radio shows and television shows, a lot of people started writing to me.
And they said, if you think there's a big cover-up in AIDS, you ought to see the cover-up in cancer.
And I thought, oh, come on, you know, I'm very high up in medicine.
How could that be?
Why wouldn't I know?
And then I thought, well, you know, I didn't know about the AIDS cover-up at the beginning, so I'll investigate this.
And when I did, I was shocked to find out there was so much information about the cover-up in cancer.
So then, for about a year, I started going around the country Investigating alternative doctors and found patients who had been cancer-free for 12 and 14 years with liver cancer and pancreatic cancer.
Cancers that are 100% fatal with orthodox methods and I found out they had been biopsied by legitimate doctors and legitimate hospitals and here they were 12 and 14 years later totally well and cancer-free and I was shocked.
I was absolutely amazed and I started investigating how they did it.
And in fact, one of the biggest things they did was they all changed their diet.
And so really you think that's what got rid of your, you're convinced that's what got rid of your cancer?
No, not just the diet alone, because I changed to the diet and the diet was the right diet, but about nine months later my cancer returned.
So it wasn't enough just to change my diet.
There were nine other things I had to learn about.
One was sunlight.
Sunlight actually reduces the size of internal cancerous tumors.
That's in the medical literature.
They never teach us that in medical school.
A lot of scientists say that sunlight causes skin cancer.
No, it actually doesn't.
I'll tell you the study that shows that that's not true.
First of all, didn't our ancestors live outdoors for thousands of years and they never got skin cancer?
Skin cancer is A new phenomenon in the last 50 years or so.
But are they not able to document that people who spent excessive amounts of time in the sun have higher skin cancer rates?
What they can document is this.
At Baylor University, they took two groups of experimental animals.
They gave one the standard American diet.
They gave the other one a highly nutritious diet.
Then they exposed both groups of animals to the ultraviolet rays of the sun.
In the group on the standard American diet, 25% got skin cancer.
In the group on a highly nutritious diet, not one animal got skin cancer.
It is the way we're eating.
Diet and sunlight.
No, but you cannot grow a healthy body without sunlight.
You must have sunlight.
You can't grow a garden without sunlight.
That's true.
Okay?
You can't grow a healthy human being without sunlight.
We must have sunlight.
Sunlight is good for us.
Sunlight reduces the size of internal cancerous tumors, boosts the immune system, It destroys bacteria, decreases resting heart rate, decreases cyclic AMP, which is a compound produced in the body in response to stress.
This reduces that compound, which is what puts you to sleep in the sunlight.
If I'm hearing this correctly, if you're eating the right diet, sun is great for you.
If you're eating the wrong diet, it might not be.
Correct.
Correct.
And that's why skin cancer was not a problem 60, 70 years ago because people were eating a far better diet than they are now.
Also, cancerous tumors grow twice as fast when you're breathing indoor air as when you're breathing outdoor air.
And when people have cancer and they go to the hospital, they are breathing in the exhaled air of every other sick patient in the hospital.
Right.
Okay, that's not healthy.
Not only that, When you go to the hospital with cancer or heart disease or any other disease, they feed you the exact food that the American Cancer Society says will make your tumor grow.
Well, I think a lot of Americans, a lot of people, instinctively know that a hospital is not a good place to be.
Except they all go there when they're sick.
I mean, they don't all, but the majority go there because they want to believe the experts.
And the experts are rarely right.
No, but I'm saying instinctively we seem to know that a hospital is not healthy.
It's not good to be there.
Right.
Well, that's correct because it's not good to be there because generally only sick people go there.
But that's right.
So what I did was change my diet and I started drinking huge amounts of water and I stopped coffee.
I was a big coffee drinker.
I stopped coffee and all caffeine because caffeine is a diuretic.
It takes more water out of your body than comes in with the drink.
I've got a cup right here.
Hold on, we're at the bottom of the hour.
We'll be right back.
Can I have a sip of coffee?
Sure.
I'm going to have a sip of coffee.
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Well, I ask myself, give up cigarettes, coffee, meat, all of the things that make life what it is right now?
Well, not all, but a big part on the one hand.
And a healthy lifestyle on the other.
Then I ask myself, well, suppose I continue as I am now, and then when I get sick, I drown myself in carrots, which I would likely do, as the doctor points out.
I wonder if that would work.
I think I'll last.
We'll be right back.
I wonder how you do a five-hour radio talk show on carrot juice.
Dr. Day, welcome back.
What about this now?
Suppose I continue my evil consumptive ways, and I get sick.
I agree with you.
At the point that I get sick, anything's better than that.
Carrot juice, spinach, whatever.
You know, all of that icky stuff.
I'd consume it like crazy if I was going to die, to keep myself from dying.
No, you wouldn't.
What do you mean, no I wouldn't?
You wouldn't do it.
You don't think I'd do it?
No, because people continue doing, in a crisis, what they do every day of their life.
Well, not if they listen to you.
Well, here's what happens.
If they listen to me, and they're in a crisis, and that's the first time they've heard about it, they can change.
If they listen to me, and they're not in a crisis, and they change their life, then they can even increasingly change their life when they get in a crisis.
But if they don't listen to me or someone else telling them life-saving information, and start the changes now, when they're well, They'll never do it when they're sick.
I have found that repeatedly.
I can tell you that with absolute certainty.
I can tell within five minutes of the time when a person comes and talks to me that has cancer whether they're going to get well or not.
Interesting.
Yeah, because people do not change in a crisis.
They keep doing what they've always done.
If, when they hear the information, they change.
You can't change before you know.
But when you hear it and you don't change, then you won't change in a crisis.
But, conceivably, if somebody did change in a crisis, they could pull themselves out of it.
Yes.
Okay.
That's slightly comforting for somebody like me.
The last time you and I were on the air, by the way, was March 15th, 1999.
It's been that long.
Oh, wow.
Now back to Mad Cow for a second.
Yes.
...is going to spread around the world and your position is there's not a damn thing we can do about it except change our own ways, right?
That's correct because the government's not doing anything to stop it.
Even the New York Times on January 14 of this year, they had tucked away in a misleading headline which was entitled, Stringent Steps Taken by U.S.
on Cow Illness.
They admitted that The U.S.
mad cow feed ban has been a joke.
U.S.
feed companies, pet food companies, pharmaceutical firms, and even nutritional supplement manufacturers have been carrying on with business as usual by importing large quantities of possibly contaminated bovine parts and rendered animal parts even though the FDA has banned it.
How many cases in Europe of mad cow human variety, that's where I want to go now, have they thus far had confirmed?
Well, they only admit to about 84 to 90 cases, but they know that have died.
All right.
But they know of many more that are infected.
But I can tell you this, they never report those things over at a major hospital not far from where I live, the University Medical Center.
When they had a lot of Gulf War victims in there, they were only reporting, apparently, according to somebody on the inside, they were only reporting about 10% of those as Gulf War Syndrome when they died.
I know.
And so, to suggest that you can trust the people who are giving out the statistics, I learned long ago with my association with the government in the subject of the AIDS epidemic, they just lie and lie and lie.
And I'm not going to argue with you on that one.
How did mad cow disease get to human beings, technically?
How did that occur?
By eating the meat of the animals.
By eating the beef?
By eating the beef and by eating other animals, too.
You see, it's in sheep.
It's in pigs.
It's in the wild deer and elk.
And how did they get it?
They ate the feed that the cows eat.
So then even meat eaters can get it.
Is that correct?
Never forget humans for a second.
In the animal kingdom, can meat eaters contract the equivalent of bad gout?
Oh yes, because if they're eating enough contaminated meat, they will break down their immune systems and then they will be vulnerable.
So even animals, then, that are naturally meant to eat the predators can... If they eat infected meat, yes, they can.
Right.
But again, you have to go back to where it started.
It started in animals that were being fed other animals when the animals are supposed to be vegetarians.
You just can't do it.
See, again, what the factory farmers have done is they have violated a natural law.
Which is, you cannot make vegetarian animals into meat eaters and have them stay healthy.
Why is Mad Cow so much more prevalent in Europe than it is here right now?
Who says it is?
You know, I mean, that's what we're being told.
The press says it is.
Well, yeah, you know what the press does.
The incidence of Alzheimer's is just skyrocketing.
And many doctors know that they are just calling this CJD, Kreutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Alzheimer's, Kreutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
So then you're suggesting fast onset Alzheimer's is misdiagnosed?
Yes.
In fact, I have a friend who just died in the last two years.
She was healthy.
She was healthy.
Until one day she started having rapid dementia and stumbling around and within a year she was dead.
And they call that fast-acting Alzheimer's.
She was only in her fifties.
I'm almost certain that she had mad cow disease.
Wouldn't they be able to do some sort of brain scan or an autopsy that would confirm that the brain erosion that you talked about was present?
Of course!
Would they tell anybody?
Okay, the whole point is, we have documents and stories of people who, one man told his story, his son was very, very sick, and he went to the doctor with him, and the two neurologists were arguing with each other in front of the father, saying, you tell him.
The other guy says, no, you tell him.
And so then they said, your son has Kreutzfeldt-Jakob disease, and they said, but don't tell the press.
I mean, this is the kind of thing that's going on.
This is juvenile behavior because the government is in the business of protecting the beef industry and the whole meat industry.
It's a billion-dollar industry.
The USDA has never been in the habit of protecting the consumer.
They protect the industry.
And so this is what they're going to do always.
The FDA does not protect the American public.
They protect the pharmaceutical industry.
So the thing is that whether, I mean, it's up to every individual what they want to continue eating.
But I think that everybody has a right to know what's really going on.
And they have a right not to be lied to.
So there is no, for a meat eater, if you were in a place where mad cow was prevalent, there would be nothing you could do to that meat That would make it safe to eat?
Well, nothing.
Nothing you can do because you cannot kill a prion.
Well, nature certainly is beginning to get the best of itself, isn't it?
Well, because what we've done is we've violated all of the laws.
And so that's why I said early on when you talked about cloning, everything that human beings do to improve on nature, they end up making a mess of.
And so, always, it turns on us.
When we started out with antibiotics in the 40s, everybody thought, oh, this is wonderful.
What antibiotics allowed people to do was to not live healthy and not live sanely.
They could live any way they wanted, and they could go get a pill to make them well.
And for a while, it seemed to work.
But you know now what's happened to antibiotics.
Yes, well, yes.
Okay?
And that's only in about 60 years.
In fact, actually, they're running out of new, effective antibiotics, aren't they?
Well, not only that, the antibiotics are getting stronger and stronger, and I have seen patients die from the side effects of the antibiotics when we gave them in the right dose and the appropriate antibiotic, because the side effects are now so severe.
So, everything we do backfires.
Like I said, transplants, transplanted organs backfire, antibiotics backfire, MRIs, backfire, all of these things.
What we have to end up eventually doing is going back and living within the laws of nature, just like we must live within the laws of gravity.
Okay, but Doctor, for example, much as I've been talking about MRI, everything in medicine is risk-benefit, risk-benefit, risk-benefit.
It doesn't have to be.
Well, but there are times when The ability to see what an MRI can show might save your life.
You wouldn't argue with that, would you?
Well, in a way I will.
I'll tell you why.
Okay.
If you have a tumor in your brain, you say, well I need to know if there's a tumor in my brain.
Yes.
Okay, so you know, now what are you going to do about it?
Are you going to go have an operation?
Well... Are you going to go have chemotherapy or going to go have radiation?
If you have a problem You know how to reverse that problem.
At least I know how to reverse that problem.
Okay, but you've got to initially know that you've got the problem.
The only way you'd know if you have a problem is if you have symptoms.
And if you have symptoms, you've got a problem.
Because the MRI won't tell you what kind of tumor you have.
It's only a shadow picture.
An x-ray is a shadow picture.
Women go and they will have a mammogram.
Okay, mammograms are x-rays.
X-ray is radiation.
Every time a woman has a mammogram, she increases her chance of getting breast cancer by 2%.
If a woman gets a mammogram twice a year, which is what they're promoting for many post-menopausal women, within 10 years she will increase her chances 40% of getting the very disease she doesn't want to get.
Okay, but the other side of the coin would be if the mammogram shows an early, very small, suspicious area and that's removed, that might save her.
Well, the thing is that A breast exam by a physician has the same accuracy rate for finding a lump as a mammogram does and it has no risk whatsoever.
Isn't that better?
Well that's surprising.
Even for the smallest?
That's correct.
That's correct.
Because I'll tell you this, they have done studies on different radiologists diagnosing the lumps And there's an enormous inaccuracy rate from one radiologist to another.
So a breast exam by a physician is just the same.
By the way, my tumor was completely missed by the best mammogram people in San Francisco.
I found it myself nine months later.
They missed it completely and it was there.
Really?
Yes.
So the whole point is If, when you have a lump, now I didn't know this at the beginning, that's why I had a biopsy.
But if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have even had a biopsy.
You would have assumed the worst, and you would have began self-treatment.
Well, I didn't even have to assume the worst.
I knew I had a lump.
I could feel the lump.
A lump, whether it's benign or malignant, is abnormal.
The same program that reverses a malignant lump will also reverse a benign lump.
The nine lumps are not normal.
I would have gone on the plan to reverse the lump.
You see?
Because the lump was not caused by a deficiency of chemotherapy, right?
Right.
Okay?
So chemotherapy can't cure it.
You can't cure any disease unless you know what causes it.
And immediately when you know what causes it, you have the cure.
You have to reverse the cause.
Doesn't that make sense?
Yes.
I bet other doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, I can think of all kinds of industries that must hate your guts.
Well, yes.
And what they say is, you are scaring people, like with my videos.
I have a new video called, Cancer Doesn't Scare Me Anymore, and I expose all the horrible side effects of chemotherapy and radiation right from the medical textbooks.
There are whole textbooks On the side effects, the horrible side effects of radiation and chemotherapy.
They document them there.
Okay?
And they're saying that I am scaring people away from the very treatment that they need.
Except every doctor knows that chemotherapy and radiation do not cure cancer.
Alright.
To Mad Cow once more.
I mean the statement you made about Mad Cow making AIDS look like a walk in the park or whatever.
Right.
What kind of world are we looking at, and what kind of timetable are we talking about, do you suppose?
Well, I can't give you an exact timetable.
However, I mean, you must have heard of... I don't know that mad cow disease is a deliberate attempt on population control.
I would not go that far.
I think it's a bad experiment that's gone out of hand.
And when I say experiment, I don't mean that the government is experimenting on its citizens in this case.
This is a result of corporate greed.
Well, whatever it's a result of, when you look ahead and you see where it's going to go, if it becomes worldwide, what's that going to do to the world?
How's that going to change things?
It's going to change everything dramatically.
There will be a tremendous decrease in the population.
But I can tell you this, the only people who will survive are the ones who are eating vegan, vegetarian.
They will be the only ones who survive.
Well, it said something about the meek inheriting.
Not weak, meek.
But the point is, you know, if you start changing over slowly, it's really not all that bad.
You know that the greatest endurance animals and the strongest animals in the animal kingdom are vegetarians.
Camels.
Elephants.
Horses.
They are strong.
And in fact, there are many athletes, including triathlon athletes, that are vegetarians because they have better endurance and better strength.
Now see, that's where I have a problem.
For example, do you ever watch the TV series Survivor?
No.
Anyway, it's when people put on an island or some In a hospitable place where they don't get much in the way of protein.
And these people start wasting away.
Well, again, the protein is... Let me give you an illustration of that.
Protein is needed only for growth and repair.
It is not needed to run your body.
Your body is fueled on carbohydrate.
And I'm not talking about Twinkies and Ho-Hos.
I'm talking about fruits, grains, and vegetables in their natural form.
That's what the body and the brain run on.
Protein is only needed for growth and repair.
Once you are grown, you don't need it for growth anymore.
You only need it for repair.
Now, meat, poultry, and fish are 40% protein on the average.
Dairy and eggs are 20% protein.
Fruits, grains, and vegetables are 5% protein.
There's protein in all fruits, grains, and vegetables.
The fastest period of time, the fastest growth in any human being's life is from birth to six months, where you will double your birth weight.
Correct?
Correct, sure.
So that is the period of time when you need the highest percentage of protein in your diet.
And then after that, only for repair or something?
No, after you're grown, after you, you know, are totally grown, that's only for repair.
But the highest percentage of protein needed is when you're growing the fastest, and that's birth to six months.
All right, gotcha.
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You can ask her what you will.
And, uh, I don't know.
I'm running out of options here.
I've never been a big veggie person.
When I was young, we had a rule in our house.
You had to eat all your food or you didn't get dessert.
You know, the chocolate.
You had to eat every scrap on your plate.
And the most hated vegetable, the vegetable from hell, is lima beans.
Lima beans Lima beans have no place on Earth, as far as I'm concerned.
In order to get to my dessert, I used to have to eat lima beans one at a time.
I swallowed them whole, with milk.
Little lima bean, root on the tongue, little milk.
Down it goes like a pill, whole, unchewed, so that it doesn't foul your teeth and your taste buds.
That's how I feel about vegetables.
So I'm going to be a hard case, no question about it, but back in a moment to Dr. Day.
Just in case you think all of this is BS, a UN report issued the other day said, this is actually from the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization, that mad cow disease, quoting, could spread to as many as 100 countries across the globe and should not be dismissed as purely a European phenomena.
As the European Union struggles to calm consumer panic that has seen beef consumption fall by more than a quarter since October, the FAO urged countries that imported meat and bone meal or cattle from the EU to ban the feeding of MBM and increase surveillance to try to eradicate the disease.
Quoting our research suggests that at least 100 countries are at risk from DSE because of cattle or meat meal imported from Europe during the 1980s.
That sound right, Doctor?
They have imported it in the 1990s as well, in 1997 even, there have been evidences.
In fact, just recently Purina admitted Well, if all of this is inevitable, then it is going to change so many things.
it's a okay if it was an accident what you got in there whether
with an accident or not well if all of this is inevitable that it is going to
change so many things what is the potential if something's not done
if if immediate change isn't forthcoming and that means really big change that i
don't believe is going to happen right then what are the
probable inevitable consequences How many people are we talking about?
Well, we're talking about virtually the entire meat-eating community of the world.
Oh, my God.
That's a lot of us.
Well, that's right.
That's right.
But again, you know, what we have done is we have destroyed society, and we have destroyed the Earth, and we're destroying ourselves.
In 1909, the incidence of cancer in America was 1 out of 33.
Now it's 1 out of 2.
During that period of time, we changed from a plant-based diet to a flesh-food-based diet.
Well now, wait a minute.
Going back, I don't care, you can go all the way back to the Viking days.
They were chewing on big hunts of meat.
No, what I'm saying is, in 1909, the average American ate 300 pounds of grain and 200 pounds of potatoes a year.
By 1985, The amount of grains the average American ate had dropped by 50%, the amount of potatoes they ate dropped by 50%, the amount of meat eating doubled, the amount of milk drinking doubled, and the amount of chicken eating went up 300%.
During that period of time, the cancer rate went from 1 out of 33 to 1 out of 3, and now it's 1 out of 2.
Alright, let's go to the phone lines.
By the way, that is the way I eat lemon beans.
I eat them... I swallow them exactly like pills until I can get my dessert.
All right, first on the caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Hello.
I'm Wayne from Omaha, Nebraska.
Yes, Wayne.
And I'm sitting here reading the Thursday, February 22nd edition of the Omaha World Herald, the sports section.
And they have an article that kind of confirms what Dr. Day is saying.
That the state's planning a deer kill, and authorities hope to determine the extent of chronic wasting disease in western Nebraska.
And according to the article, chronic wasting disease, as I understand it, is the same thing as mad cow disease.
Is that right?
That's correct.
It is?
Yes, that's right.
The wasting disease is essentially the same thing as mad cow disease.
By the way, on my website at drday.com, I have a whole section on mad cow disease for anybody who
wants to go look at it.
Yeah.
All right.
Anyway, the article says, talking about a time limit when this was first discovered
in the United States, the article says that Nebraska is the third state in which CWD has
been identified in wild deer.
The disease was first diagnosed in 1967 in a captive mule deer herd at the Colorado Division of Wildlife Research Facilities in Fort Collins.
It was discovered in the wild in Colorado in 1981 and in Wyoming in 1985.
These dates kind of coincide, don't they, Doctor?
That's correct.
And of course, the wild animals would eat a lot of the feed that was given to the domesticated animals.
And then there were certain herds that were actually being fed this same high-protein pellet, which was ground-up dead animals.
They were being fed by the game department.
I see.
Boy.
They said that they were going to kill, on March the 5th, 100 to 150 of the wild deer in Nebraska, and they were going to test them for the chronic wasting disease and also some other diseases the article mentioned.
That's right, but you're never going to hear the truth on whether these animals actually had it or not.
You know, don't cover that up.
You'll just never hear about it again.
Well, let's, for the sake of our discussion, assume that they have it, or some percentage of them have it, and they find that.
My question would be, when these hunters go out and kill deer and take them home and eat them, what does that mean, if anything?
Well, that means that they can get the disease, and in fact, there have been documented cases of humans getting it from eating these animals that have been shot.
There's one herd that has the disease, and the government's been thinking about what to do with it for over about eight or nine months.
They're trying to decide whether they should destroy the herd or not.
I mean, you would think that they could make a decision a little faster than that.
Yes, it can be transmitted from... In fact, hunters are being warned not to eat the meat.
Really?
Yeah.
Caller, I appreciate it.
You're welcome.
Thank you very much.
This is pretty dire stuff.
What kind of world are we going to have on our hands when all this is done?
And I guess you're going to say it's our fault.
Well, I mean, the thing is that we certainly...
If we hadn't raised animals, if the farmers hadn't raised animals like they're raising them now, if they had been range-fed all along, we would certainly have a lot less problem.
I mean, you have to admit that.
If you could see the way animals are raised, it is really horrible.
Yes, I've heard.
And not only that, when an animal dies, Or a human dies, rigor mortis sets in, correct?
Right.
They get stiff.
Right.
So when you eat a steak, it's not stiff.
What do you think has happened in the meantime?
Somebody beat it with a mallet?
No, nobody beat it with a mallet.
They allow the putrefactive bacteria to putrefy the flesh, and that's what makes it soft, and many of those bacteria are fecal bacteria.
Great.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Yes.
Yeah, this is Eric from Bozeman, Montana.
Hi, Eric.
I guess, well, I guess that's it for the burgers, cigarettes, and coffee for you.
I wouldn't take any bets on that.
Anyway, you have a question.
No doubt.
Well, I do, yeah.
And Dr. Day, I've been a fan of yours for a while.
I'm almost completely vegan.
Good.
But I've got a question.
What do you feel, just personally, is the extent of mad cow disease in the human population in the United States and what do you feel can be done about it?
Well, I don't know the extent of it.
I know it's far greater than they're telling us because Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is going up very rapidly and that is the equivalent of mad cow disease.
It is being diagnosed when it's really Creutzfeldt-Jakob, and the statistics are being jerry-rigged.
So it is a far greater problem than anybody is letting on.
What can be done about it?
What you're doing about it.
And that is going big, Ann.
Okay.
Glad you have the strength to ask the question, Caller.
You betcha.
Thank you.
You bet.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Good morning, friends.
Good morning.
Hi, my name is Dale from Dallas.
I have two questions for Dr. Day.
I'm a Seventh-day Adventist, and I believe I heard that you are or were a Seventh-day Adventist as well.
Well, I was raised a Seventh-day Adventist, but I was out of the church for many years.
And I am a Christian now, and I believe in many of the Seventh-day Adventist doctrines, but I'm not a member of a church.
I understand.
I think that's good.
I don't have a problem with that.
So, I wondered if you would comment on the writings of Ellen White, who's a writer of many books for our church, who claimed to have visions and messages from God.
I know that, as you know probably, that the health message figures very prominently in her writings, where, in some of her works, she basically said that as we approach the last days of, you know, right before Christ's Second Coming, that there would be, basically, the impossibility that meat would become totally unsafe to eat.
My second question, I would like to know what one can do, theoretically, I know this will take a lot of speculation, but what can do if they have or may have already been contaminated with mad cow prions?
Does the body have any way to naturally eliminate prions or something like oral chelation or any type of herbs that help eliminate something?
Because I know proteins have to break down and they are eliminated.
Is it simply a process to where the Addition of more prions takes over the ability of the body to eliminate it.
Is it kind of a balance or what do you call it, a war going on with good proteins versus bad proteins and just what could you speculate?
Okay, well first of all, you're working against yourself because the first thing you talked about was Ellen White and her predictions about what would happen to the food supply.
And if you look on my website at www.drday.com and click on where it says Mad Cow Disease at the bottom of my homepage, You will see a whole section on mad cow disease.
At the end of that I have an addendum because she predicted over a hundred years ago exactly what's happening now.
She said there is no safety in the eating of the flesh of dead animals.
In a short time it will not be safe to use anything that comes from the animal creation.
That was written in 1898.
All right.
And she wrote many things way back in 1865 and 1870, which predicted exactly what's happening now.
She said what the farmers would do to the animals and how they would raise them and how they would get very diseased, including milk and eggs and all those things.
So yes, she did predict that.
But she also wrote out a plan how we can get well, which is the natural laws of health.
And so that can reverse any disease.
And that's the way I got well.
So there is no disease that's irreversible.
Including mad cow disease.
But herbs and things like that are not the cure.
It is reversing the factors that cause them, and those are the ten laws of health.
By the way, if anybody, I don't want to discriminate against those who are not on the internet.
If you want more information about these kinds of things, you can go to the phone and dial a toll-free number, which is 1-800-574-2437.
Is that a 24-hour number?
seven four two four three seven is that a uh... twenty four-hour that the twenty four-hour
number Right.
Did I answer your two questions?
I think I did.
Well, the first question was, he seemed to suggest that it's biblical prophecy coming true.
This was a prophecy by a woman named Ellen White.
She was not a writer of the Bible, but biblical prophecy, yes.
It talks about what's going to happen in the end of time, and it talks about, in Revelation, it talks about One of the first plagues will be severe disease, but of course we have severe disease.
Interestingly enough, it talks about malignant ulcers in the original Greek.
It says malignant ulcers, which now we have one out of two people developing cancer, and by the year 2020, medical experts predict that everyone will eventually get cancer sometime in their lifetime.
We are living longer.
No, we're not, actually.
Well, I thought the stats said we were.
Well, I'll tell you what they're doing with the stats.
What?
If you lived past your childhood diseases 100 years ago, you have the same life expectancy as now.
The only reason they say we're living longer is because 100 years ago, children died of childhood diseases, and women died in childbirth, and children died in childbirth.
Because of bad sanitation and that sort of thing.
But when a child dies, when it's, say, a year old or at birth, you are then decreasing the general statistics by, say, 70 years.
So all of it is on the front end.
You see what I mean?
Wow.
Yes.
And so that's why they're saying we're living longer.
We are not living longer.
In fact, the incidence of cancer is going up dramatically and heart disease is going up dramatically.
And so it's impossible for us to be living longer.
So they don't just lie a little, they lie a lot.
That's right.
The bigger the lie, the more it flies.
Okay.
Well, to the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, I'm running out of battery.
I'm on a cell phone.
Good evening, or good morning.
I'm a diabetic for 25 years.
I've been trying to do a lot of things and to reverse it, but I just don't seem to do a good job.
Diet, exercise, collation therapy and a lot of things.
Diet and exercise, but you have to be committed to doing it.
On my video, diseases don't just happen.
I give the way to reverse adult-onset diabetes.
The main cause of adult-onset diabetes is too much fat and sugar in the diet and lack of exercise.
The main cause of the onset of juvenile-onset diabetes, that's type 1 diabetes in children that have to be on insulin, is drinking milk.
There is a protein in the milk that is almost identical to a protein in the pancreatic cells and the body produces antibodies against the cow's milk and it turns on the pancreas and destroys them and the child is a lifelong diabetic.
But adult onset diabetes, you can reverse by diet and exercise.
Okay.
Is there a book that I can read to be more knowledgeable about this?
Well, the thing is, there may be a book out there you can read.
It's on my video, Diseases Don't Just Happen.
And you can see that on the website.
There's also information on Some Diabetes Aware, if you click on Personal Letter from Dr. Day at the home page.
Alright.
Well, I guess that's alright, he's gone.
So, most people can get to a computer one way or the other.
And you said there was a, what was the phone number again?
1-800-574-2437 People are slow and they're scrambling at nightstands for something to write on.
It's 1-800-574-2437.
That number is open right now.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
This is Sharon.
I'm also in the high desert, a bit north of you, up in southern Idaho.
Well, hi there.
Hi.
Listen, Dr. Day, I am taking currently an herbal, not herbal, but A glandular thyroid supplement, a natural, and it has a bovine source and from what you're saying it doesn't seem to matter whether it's bovine or not.
And I've become concerned about this because of the mad cow thing.
Do you know if the pharmaceutical thyroid is chemically manufactured, if that would
be a better way to go?
You were starting to talk about that this is showing up in a lot of things other than
the meat.
Yes, it's showing up.
I mean, it's in gelatin, it's in supplements, it's in medications like thyroid medication
and various things like that.
So even the pharmaceutical thyroid?
Oh yes.
So what do I do?
I would not take thyroid that comes from an animal, whether it's a cow or a pig.
Yeah, this is raw glandular.
I would not do that.
It's too dangerous.
You can change to Synthroid or something like that, which is a synthetic.
Again, you can get off of your thyroid medication.
The reason that people are so hypothyroid these days, and so many people are on thyroid medication, is because their bodies aren't working right.
You can get your body working right again, and then your body will produce its own thyroid.
I don't suggest you stop it abruptly, but you can get off of it by changing your lifestyle.
And again, the whole plan I use to get well is on the videos.
It's on the videos.
Yeah, it's the one that's specifically one that you can look at.
Either diseases don't just happen, or you can't improve on God.
Okay, thank you very much.
Alright, thank you.
So almost everything has, almost has the same answer, but for a lot of people you're saying that are taking some sort of pharmaceutical medication now, there could be damage by going off it too soon or too abruptly.
You don't want to stop medication abruptly, but you have to, you know, get off of it slowly, although I will say that Even my 85-year-old mother, I was able to get her off of all of her four high blood pressure medications she'd been on for 35 years.
I got her off in three weeks.
Well, okay.
Hold it right there, Doctor.
We'll be right back.
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That's kind of the revenge of the daughter, I guess, huh?
Remember when she said you gotta drink milk?
Well, Mom, you gotta take this.
I guess Mom took it.
Anyway, hang in, and we'll be right back.
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Once again, Dr. Lorraine Day.
Dr. Day, welcome back.
Thank you.
Well, you're probably scaring the hell out of everybody, I would imagine.
You certainly are scaring me.
Well, the thing is, it's better to know than not to know, because then you have the option to do whatever you want to do.
Again, I've never told anybody how they have to eat.
I don't tell anybody they have to follow the plan I used to get well.
But everybody has the right to have the option available to them to remain healthy.
Because everybody's sick and dying now.
And there's not one family that hasn't been touched by cancer.
And now cancer is the second leading cause of death in children.
This is a terrible thing when parents realize that they have fed their children the very thing that helped cause their disease.
They don't want to do that.
So they have to have the option of at least knowing what's going on.
The diet that people are feeding their children is also causing very premature puberty.
When children enter puberty at a very young age, it destroys their lives and it increases their risk of getting cancer.
Little girls who enter puberty early have a much higher risk of getting breast cancer if they become sexually active at a young age and have an abortion.
They have a much higher risk of getting breast cancer.
These are the kinds of things that parents need to know and they're not being told by the medical establishment.
Steve, in Niagara Falls, on the Canadian side, on the Fast Blast, asks Dr. Day, you remarked on the negativity of coffee and so forth.
Are these not vegetable-based items?
Well, arsenic is a vegetable-based item, too.
I mean, you have to really be a little bit discriminating.
Just because something is a vegetable doesn't mean that it is edible.
So that's not really a legitimate question.
Okay.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hopefully you have a legitimate question.
Hi, this is Shirley from Fresno.
Yes, Shirley.
Dr. Day, I wanted to ask you about the water.
How do you get the water, you know, pure enough to drink it?
Well, first of all, tap water is very contaminated.
It contains lots of bacteria and viruses.
The Centers for Disease Control publishes the statistics on waterborne illness in America, and it is huge.
They don't tell the public, but they do tell the doctors.
So I get those statistics.
Also, tap water contains chlorine, which is a poisonous gas, and it contains fluoride, Which is a constituent of rat poison and it is very damaging to the body and you don't want to use it.
It can cause death in toothpaste if a child just swallows the amount of fluoride in toothpaste that they would use to brush their teeth, they can die.
That's why they're now putting warning labels on toothpaste.
But what I'm asking you, how would we get the water fresh and able to drink it then?
Because the tap water here is poisonous, I know.
Well, the first thing you can do is either you can buy bottled water, you can get distilled water or purified drinking water and check on the way that the company purifies it.
Or you can get your own distiller for about $250 and you can distill all your own water.
Or you can get a system of reverse osmosis and carbon filtration put in your home.
Is that one of those little ones with the carbon filter that the water runs through?
No, that's not adequate.
It's better than nothing, but it's not adequate.
You've got to have it installed.
Oh, when it's installed?
What about the machines that have the water that's supposed to be filtered and stuff?
Yes, if you investigate that and if you get it from a machine that is either distilled or purified drinking water, you find out how it is purified.
And then go to a machine that is heavily used.
In other words, so the water turnover is rapid.
Okay.
And I also wanted to ask you something else.
What about this human growth hormone I've been hearing so much about lately?
Well, anything that comes from a human being can be dangerous.
If it comes from a human being, it can be dangerous.
I understand.
All right.
Here's one for you.
Let's see.
No, maybe I don't want to do that one.
Yes, I do.
If you're a gardener, Doctor, and you use as fertilizer bone meal, is there a potential problem there?
In other words, isn't it possible that this will get to the entire food chain, or is what I just suggested not possible?
No, it's possible.
It is possible.
Yes, and I don't use, we have had a garden and I don't use any bone meal on it because it's blood and bone meal.
And people will say, the experts, quote unquote, will say that the prion is only found in the brain and spinal cord of these animals.
But I have seen these somatids or microzymas, which I feel strongly are prions, I have seen them in blood.
They circulate in blood, and besides, the same blood goes through the spinal cord and the brain as goes through the rest of the body.
It's silliness to say it's only in those other organs.
So then, conceivably, mass-produced vegetables, using that kind of fertilizer, could be, ultimately, someday as dangerous as the meat we're worried about.
Well, I don't know if they could ultimately be as dangerous.
It may just contaminate the outside, which you could possibly wash off.
Alright, because I don't know that it can be passed from animals to plants.
Well, we didn't think it would go from cows to humans either.
Well, they're still both mammals.
That's a different thing than going to plants.
There are many diseases that animals and humans have that cannot be transmitted to plants and vice versa.
But isn't this unnatural way of doing things that you describe, doesn't it ultimately apply to almost everything in the food chain?
Well, it can, but again, you know, it's like pesticides.
When the animal eats grain or something with pesticides on it, it will concentrate those pesticides in its flesh.
So when you eat one steak, you are eating far more pesticides than you if you eat like, you know, a quarter of a truckload of vegetables and fruits because of the concentration that the animal does with the pesticides.
Okay.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Good morning.
Hello?
Hello.
Yes, you're there.
Go ahead.
Okay, I'm from Livingston, Montana.
This is Marcy.
Yes, Marcy.
I have two questions.
One of them is, I have a cat that was just diagnosed with diabetes, and I got to thinking about what are we going to feed our meat-eating pets?
Yeah, good question.
Again, that's a problem because, you know, if you looked on the internet today, in Britain they have just discovered mad cat disease.
because they are putting all of this same rendered meat in the dog and cat food.
And so what you're really going to have to do is find a different way to feed your cat.
And some cats will eat vegetables.
No. I have three cats and none of them will touch a veggie.
That's because they learned it from you.
No!
My second question is also, will this affect fish as a food source?
Okay, well, fish have their own problems.
Most fish is caught within 200 miles offshore where they are contaminated with the sewage that is dumped into the water.
And they are found to be heavily contaminated, particularly with heavy metals.
Uh, which are very dangerous for humans to eat, mercury and things like that.
And as they go up higher in the food chain, in other words, the tiny fish eat the algae which are contaminated, and then the bigger fish eat the small fish.
So you can, uh, when you eat the fish, uh, somewhat larger fish, you can get a fish that is a thousand or a million times more contaminated than the water because of their ability to concentrate the heavy metals as well.
All right.
Okay, thank you.
All right, thank you.
Mad cat disease, Doctor?
Yeah, yeah.
They've discovered mad cat disease.
Mad cat disease.
Well, look, cats I know.
I have three of them, and I promise you, if you put a vegetable, even if, you know, you get them interested because you're eating, right?
So they want some of whatever it is.
If you put a vegetable down on the floor, there is no way the cat is going to sniff that.
And they're going to look at you like, are you out of your mind?
Well, maybe if you let them go for a couple of days without food, maybe they'll be more interested.
You know, you do that with kids.
Children, if they don't want to eat their vegetables, you can just say, well, you know, you sit there until you eat it or you'll get hungry.
So I started my little wildcat, who's now a big wildcat.
and is ill-tempered at that until he finally agrees to eat a carrot. Boy, I don't know, Doctor.
Well, let me tell you about ill-tempered cats.
There is a prison up in Atalanta, California.
For cats?
No, for people. And half of the prison is vegetarian.
Now, when the man built the prison, you know, many prisons are privately owned.
California prisons are privately owned.
And so when he built the prison, he wanted to have the whole prison vegetarian.
They said, absolutely not.
State of California said no.
And he said, well, how about half of it and just let the prisoners choose?
And they said no prisoner in the whole state would ever want to go to a vegetarian prisoner.
Prisoners love their meat.
So they said, but finally they said, we'll let you do it.
Well, now he has had the prison open for, I guess, five or six or seven years.
And?
And not only is the vegetarian side full, but there is a waiting list from the other side of the prison waiting to get on the vegetarian side, and a waiting list from the entire state of California from other prisons waiting to get there.
And you know why?
I'll bet you the vegetarian side's more docile, aren't they?
The vegetarian side is less violent.
Yes, indeed.
That's correct, and they say they don't have to worry about looking over their shoulder while they're sleeping for someone to attack them.
And they know that the warden's a veggie guy, and they're more likely to get on his good side, because that's the way you get out sooner.
You're a converted vegetarian.
Well, I don't know that they get out sooner, but I can tell you their lives are changing much more rapidly, and the The return rate from that side of the prison is about one-fourth of every other prison.
Now, why would that be?
Well, first of all, they have other things.
They are more respectful to each other.
Oh, because they become more docile.
Hence, they would not likely commit, say, a violent crime.
Well, that's part of it, yes.
So, you see, maybe your cat is violent because you're feeding it meat.
My cat would finally break through a window and eat a bird.
Alright, well anyway, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Yeah, how are you doing?
Well, I'm alright.
Okay.
Well, I was actually alright before the show.
I'm not sure about now.
I had a question for the doctor.
Considering her, where she was, and your doctor, your view on the medical field now.
I mean, I work in the medical field now, but I'm not a doctor, but I'm considering maybe doing that.
Would you still recommend that?
Going to medical school, you mean?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, everybody has to make their own choice.
I would not suggest that for my own sons.
I strongly... Because all you'll learn in medical school is drugs and surgery.
Drugs never cure disease.
They only cover up symptoms.
And taking out organs doesn't make any sense.
You would never take your car... If you had problems with your transmission, you would never take your car to an auto mechanic who would just take out your transmission and give you your car back.
Yeah, but could you also look at it and argue it this way, that since that is the accepted, you know, place to get well, that you'd be in the, have the opportunity to be in the forum to maybe bring, if, you know, someone did come to agree with your views, bring those views into the mainstream.
Look, if Dr. Day had preached what she's preaching now at San Francisco General, She would have been out on her ears so fast, right Doctor?
That's correct.
You can't do that in mainstream medicine and you don't need to.
You can learn whatever you need to to learn to make people well without going to medical school.
Everything I learned about being healthy I learned out of medical school.
Yeah.
Away from it.
So do you want to be healthier or do you want to be a doctor?
Or do you want to be rich?
Both.
That's right.
See, the point is Doctors have a shorter life expectancy than the general population, and they have a higher suicide rate.
So why would you want to go to them for your health?
Is that really true?
That's true.
That's true.
I mean, the thing is, they don't, obviously, they don't have the answer.
Well, they make a lot more money than the average.
That's right.
All right.
Well, so make your choices, sir.
It's up to you.
Here's to the Rockies.
You're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Howdy.
Howdy.
Welcome back, Clark.
Thank you.
With the mad cow disease.
1960's was the first farm I worked on.
A farmer there had a cow that had some kind of problem and he just referred to it as a crazy cow.
It kept getting worse and worse and finally he sent it off to market.
Right.
Also, on the cats and the dogs, they will eat vegetables because I've seen them.
And this guy's farm often eating the silage.
If you were to perhaps wrap a lima bean in a glob of hamburger, then you might get a dog to eat it and then spit the lima bean out.
This was the silage that was fed to the cattle.
Corn silage.
They ate it on their own quite often.
Well, great.
Well, cats will eat grass when they want to get well.
Oh, that's absolutely true.
They love grass.
They absolutely love grass, but I believe they eat it to throw up.
Well, they eat it to be well.
Well, when they're sick, they eat it to be well.
Yeah, but a lot of times after they eat grass, they throw up, right?
Well, they may throw up, but they don't always throw up.
I can tell you, grasses are the main things that make people well.
Grasses.
Because they have the green and the chlorophyll.
You are right about that.
I mean, a cat will go berserk to get to grass.
That's right.
And will chew on grass.
That's right.
That's right.
That's a clue for you.
Yeah, but try and get them to eat, oh, I don't know, a string bean.
Forget it.
I mean, they're not even going to approach a string bean.
Well, you have to be an example for them.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hi, I could barely hear you yell at us.
Oh, okay.
Yes, where are you?
I'm west of the Rockies.
West of the Rockies.
Yes.
Okay.
I wanted to ask, did I hear correctly that there are people in the United States dying of mad cow disease?
The government does not admit it, but the incidence of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, which is human mad cow disease, is going up very rapidly, and there are many cases of very young people getting Alzheimer's, and it's going very rapidly.
They'll die in a year, but they're not calling it mad cow disease.
When you say the government, do you mean the CDC?
I mean the CDC and the USDA, the Department of Agriculture.
Did they change the diagnosis of death?
I mean on the death certificate?
They don't necessarily change it, they just don't admit that that's what it is.
So does anybody ever put down on a death certificate that a person died of the bovine disease?
Yeah, would that be a career-ending death certificate, doctor?
Well, it could well be a career-ending death certificate when people would refuse to lie about certain diseases such as those, they would lose their jobs.
But see, BSE or bovine spongiform encephalopathy is technically a disease that occurs in cows.
The disease that occurs in human beings is Creutzfeldt-Jakob, and that would be what would go down on the death certificate.
But they don't really admit that Creutzfeldt-Jakob is actually human mad cow disease, except it didn't start, it really wasn't discovered in America until after they started feeding, rendering, rendering meat to animals.
But again, Doctor, aren't they able to show a difference between the prion seen in Europe and the prion Well, not necessarily in the pre-op.
What they're showing is that the downer cows have a slightly different thing.
But the point is, when you feed them to other animals, the animals get mad like mad mink disease, or scrapey, which is mad sheep disease.
Doctor, we are at the traditional place where I offer all my guests the opportunity to stick around to the final hour or Bail out and get a little bit of sleep because I know it's very late.
Well, I'll be happy to stay if you want me to.
Oh, I'd love you to stay.
All right.
All right.
Then in that case, stay right where you are.
We'll break here at the top of the hour.
and you will continue to have an opportunity to ask doctor lorraine day
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Once again in the darkness, possibly in the storm, here is Dr. Lorraine Bay.
Doctor, I've got another doctor who wrote me a fast blast here from California.
Sounds like pure vegan propaganda to me, but see if you agree with this.
We have no right to inflict suffering or death on any living creature, and until mankind can extend the circle of his compassion to include all living things, You'll never know.
Peace.
Well, I think that's certainly right.
I'm not an animal rights activist.
I think it would be wise for society to treat all creatures with kindness and humaneness.
But that's not primarily the reason I'm a vegetarian.
I agree.
As I said, I think that animals were meant to be our friends and not our dinner.
But it is not healthy for people to eat them.
What we don't want to do is start worshipping animals and, you know, make them the objects of our worship.
But we certainly should treat them humanely.
Alright, well, here's one more.
Nick in Miami, Florida says, Art, I hate to disagree with you.
That's alright, lots of people do.
But my Rottweiler eats lima beans and squash.
That's great.
But he goes on, but then again, he also eats grasshoppers and small rocks.
I wonder if he eats people, too.
I don't.
Some of them do, yes.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hi, Eric.
My name's Bill.
I'm calling from northern Nevada.
Yes, Bill.
As a matter of fact, I've got a Japanese Chin who I have to fence my garden to keep her from decimating my tomato plants.
Really?
Because she will eat, she will literally strip the tomatoes off the plants and eat them.
And she's also a big fan of carrots, cucumbers, mushrooms, and onions.
Okie dokie.
Your cat has definitely an inherited condition from the family.
Oh yeah, I'm a big vegetable eater myself.
That's hard to believe.
Hard to believe.
A piece of advice for changing the vegetables is start out with a vegetable that you like to eat, get used to that, and then build.
Short of going to jail, the one she talked about, there's no hope for me.
Alright, thank you very much.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hi there, Art.
Hi.
Hi, Dr. Day.
Hello.
Art, I'm in the same boat with you.
They're going to have to carry me kicking and screaming all the way, I tell you.
Well, you know, Dr. Day would say that's exactly what they're going to be doing, carrying you kicking and screaming.
Yeah, that's right.
You're carrying me away dead.
Yeah, that's right.
In your death throes.
I've got a couple questions for you, Dr. Day.
First, I'll just give them to you both at the same time.
What kind of damage do you foresee to our ecosystem if we stop eating animals all of a sudden?
And secondly, I heard earlier that you mentioned you were a Christian, and then I also heard earlier in the program that you compared our digestive systems with other animals, and I think what you said was that we were meant to be vegetarians?
Would you see that as kind of a conflict?
In theological thought there and supposedly in Christian dogma God created man and created animals for us for food.
I just wanted to comment on those two things.
Thanks.
Very good point.
All right, let's take the last one first.
Okay, the last one first.
Now, if you have to go back to the Book of Genesis, God did not create animals for our food.
That occurred after sin.
In the Garden of Eden, they ate fruits, grains, and vegetables in their most natural form.
Animals ate straw, and they were all vegetarians.
They did not start eating each other until after sin entered.
Okay, so when God gave the perfect diet to the Israelites when they were coming out of Egypt, He gave them manna, which was totally vegetarian.
When humans were allowed to eat meat was after the flood when the earth was covered with water.
So if you look in Genesis, you will find those things.
So it's totally compatible with being a Christian to understand that.
And I know that many Christians uh... enjoy their meat and so they look at different places
in the bible but need to go back to the beginning that's the way it is
already go fifty-eight or equals to the worst thing about the ecosystem in fact
you start looking at even agriculture journal and the worst thing that's happening to the ecosystem is
all the animals that are being raised for food they're decimating the earth
how do you imagine that this will end up i mean in the darkest future if this is not corrected and
frankly with the forces at work
i doubt it's going to be It's going to come to a screeching halt, all of it.
We're going to do ourselves in as a civilization.
We certainly are, because the way things are going, not only in the way we're eating, but eventually Humans will not be able to reproduce.
I don't know if you've ever heard of the Pottinger Cat Study.
Pottinger Cat Study was a study where they just made a difference between raw food and cooked food.
They were feeding the animals meat that they had raw versus cooked, which is the same if you're eating vegetables or meat.
You aren't getting the enzymes if you eat it cooked.
I'm not suggesting that people eat raw meat.
That is very dangerous, all right?
But when they did this study, they found out when the animals ate the food cooked, that their offspring were starting to be defective, and within three to four generations, their offspring could no longer reproduce.
There's a big infertility rate in America now that is being caused by... Is that true?
You know, I've heard sperm counts are dead on... Well, yeah, but then other people argue that's baloney.
The study is not valid.
You're saying it is.
It is true.
And there are a number of things that are happening that are lowering sperm counts.
One of them is fluoride in the water.
That decreases fertility dramatically.
And the way people are eating.
On one of my videos called Believing is Seeing, I have a woman who was infertile and she actually had cervical cancer as well as polycystic ovaries.
When she went on the plan, doctors wanted to take out her uterus and they said she would never get pregnant.
She not only cured her uterine cancer, but she became pregnant and had twin baby girls without any fertility drugs whatsoever.
And I show those little babies on the video.
And the doctors practically dropped over when she became pregnant and when she cured her uterine cancer.
So these things can all happen.
By the way, I wanted to mention, if the caller, if you have another question, I wanted to mention a couple of other things.
No, just those.
And you've answered them.
All right.
Now, first of all, vaccines are a major problem because all vaccines are grown in cell culture
in the laboratory, either on chicken cells or sometimes human cells or different cells,
but all cell cultures in the laboratory are fed.
They have to be kept alive by feeding them nutrition.
They are fed with fetal calf serum.
They are fed with serum from unborn baby calves.
So every single vaccine has a potential problem with it.
That's number one.
Number two is there's a lot of information in the medical literature about the problem
of sterilization of instruments that are being used on patients with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease,
which is the human form of mad cow disease because they cannot sterilize the prion off of it.
Let's try this one out.
For the first time in my life, knowing that I was going to go to the Super Bowl and had to fly on an airplane and all the rest of it, I took the urgings of local newspapers and broadcasts and I went out and I got a flu shot this year.
Now, I have not yet, Gotten the flu.
It's a positive thing, but I didn't get it last year either.
My point is, do you consider a flu shot to be a dangerous thing?
Yes.
It's not only dangerous from the mad cow perspective, but it's dangerous from every other perspective.
Wait a minute, what do you mean from a mad cow perspective?
Because the vaccines were grown in cultures that had to be fed with calf serum.
Okay, but the second thing is, the flu shot you got was Immunizing you against last year's flu.
Because they cannot immunize you against this year's flu, because they don't know what's coming up by the time they make the vaccine.
Well, what's the point of immunizing anybody against last year's flu?
It's already run the course.
The only thing it does is it makes money.
Well, that's annoying.
Well, that's the truth.
Vaccines... I thought that they looked at China, where these things were developing, or where the current new strain is developing, and cultured from that.
Have you ever noticed that the flu always comes from an Asian country?
Yeah, I've noticed.
Okay!
That's a joke!
It is?
I mean, of course!
I mean, they call it these things.
It's the Asian flu or the China flu.
It always comes from an Asian country!
That is baloney!
It is?
Absolutely!
Okay?
So, the thing is, they cannot immunize you against the flu that's coming up unless they know and they have I'm not even suggesting that they are producing the flu virus, but the thing is, the only way they could know what was coming up next is if they produced it.
Otherwise, they have to vaccinate you against last year's flu, which will never be this year's flu.
Well, I personally always suspected.
I mean, if you watch those ads on TV, they know damn well when the flu's going around.
They know exactly when the flu's going around, because that's when they advertise.
And I've always suspected these little vice presidents being sent out with vials to our reservoirs but i think you know i'm not sure about it
but they're not going to be if they're going to put it in there
they're not going to vaccinate you again that one but if you go to my website
at doctor date dot com i have a whole uh... uh... portion on vaccinations are
they pay for effective and i tell you how you can get waivers and how you
never want to get another vaccination what one thing i'd like to finish up all felt that that
would have been just before you do not have never another vaccination doctor you
said that uh...
the longevity that we do have now
uh... is attributed to the fact that childhood diseases have uh... to some
degree been eradicated Not by vaccination.
Yes, they have.
No.
Polio?
No.
No.
If you look on my website, you will see a book reference there showing that, in fact, these are government statistics, showing that the incidence of polio was coming down dramatically Long before vaccinations, because of better sanitation and things like that.
So the incidence was coming way down.
With the introduction of both the oral and the injectable polio vaccine, the slope of the curve did not change one bit, meaning that it had no effect except that after vaccinations were introduced, 80% of all cases of polio were caused by the vaccination that the child received.
So you're saying the polio vaccine didn't kill polio.
Polio died a natural death.
That's right.
And it's the same way for measles.
You look at the same curve.
You look for measles, for mumps, for all of these diseases.
This is a pharmaceutical bonanza.
Well, sure it is.
I mean, everybody has it.
In fact, to get into school, you've got to have a lot of those immunizations.
To get into school, you have to have 33 vaccinations.
There you are.
All right?
And of course this is also killing children.
Vaccines are associated with sudden infant death syndrome and autism.
This has been well documented and I talk about this on my website.
Autism was not known before the introduction of vaccinations.
They have put monitors on babies showing that they have normal heart rate and normal breathing before their vaccination and afterwards it is off the map and they start having episodes of not breathing at all and this is from vaccinations.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Yes, good evening.
Good evening.
I just wondered if you heard the report they're going to kill 400,000 head in, I think it's France, but India or something phoned them up and asked if they could have them cows before they kill them.
What?
I heard that today on the radio.
I also heard the thing about the cats, because the cats, the cows and the cat food.
And also, fish are now starting to do circles or something like that.
I heard that also.
Yeah, there's a twirling disease.
Yeah, a twirling disease, that's right.
Okay, I have one question too.
My brother-in-law just had intestine, he has intestine, some kind of intestine cancer.
Yeah.
Does your plan, will it address that?
Yes.
And can he go on it to get fixed up?
Yes.
Because now he just had a colostomy and he has to wear that bag and everything?
Yes.
Alright, well she's saying yes.
Yes, he can reverse his colon disease, his colon cancer, because cancer is cancer no matter where it is.
It's caused by a violation of these ten laws of health.
And one of the biggest causes of colon cancer is meat eating.
Because it goes through your intestines very slowly.
It putrefies and you reabsorb the toxins.
Right.
You talked about a few of the 10 laws.
You want to go through them?
Okay.
Proper nutrition.
As I talked about, I spent quite a bit of time.
Exercise.
Water.
Your body needs a minimum of 10 glasses of water a day.
When you drink caffeine, it causes your body to lose water, more water than comes in with the drink.
The body is 75% water.
The brain is 85% water.
One of the biggest causes of Alzheimer's And Lou Gehrig's disease and Parkinson's and cancer is dehydration.
The next one is sunlight.
Sunlight reduces the size of internal cancers, tumors, boosts your immune system.
The next one is called temperance where you eliminate the harmful substances from your diet including refined sugar and NutraSweet and MSG and nicotine and caffeine and alcohol and things like that.
Alcohol is a diuretic too.
And so that drives out your body.
You put alcohol in your hands, it drives out your skin.
If you drink it, it drives out the inside of your body.
And then the next one is fresh air.
As I said, the kind of air you breathe is very important because inside air causes your tumor to grow.
And then proper rest at the proper time of night.
The body needs to have its rest and you cannot repair a car while you're driving it.
So you have to have your proper rest at night.
And then you have to learn how to get rid of your stress.
I started out with meditation and visualization.
I had some pretty horrible experiences.
I went to the medical literature and found out that when you are practicing Eastern type of meditation, when you are subsequently confronted by another stress, your body reacts worse than if you hadn't been doing meditation at all.
Whereas if you are practicing Bible study and prayer, And that's in the medical literature that when you are then subsequently confronted by another stress, your body reacts far better.
So I started reading my Bible, I started praying, and I learned to give my stress to the Lord.
And the next one is an attitude of gratitude.
Your attitude makes all the difference in the world.
You have to give up grudge holding.
Anger is the number one cause of death in America.
and you have to get rid of it in order for your body to heal.
You cannot heal if you are angry or harboring grudges.
And the last one is benevolence.
Selfishness is a problem with almost everyone and you have to get outside yourself
and you have to forgive and forget and be interested in other people and willing to care for
them.
And then with those things, your health will spring forth speedily.
You know, when you're angry, your stomach contracts, so you can't digest your food.
Your intestinal parasol stops, you can't eliminate your waste, and your adrenal glands pour out all sorts of hormones, like cortisone and adrenaline.
But are there other ways to inner peace?
For example, I don't get angry.
I get even.
And when I get even, I'm happy.
And I'm not stressed.
Actually, when you get even, Over a period of time, it actually destroys you.
That's why the Bible says, love your enemies, do good to them, but hate you, because when you don't do that, this is just telling you that there is a natural law operating, and that either you can go with it or you can go against it.
If you go against it, eventually it will turn on you.
You will stipulate, though, that as of at least right now, we all die.
Oh yes, but we're not supposed to die of disease.
We can die from just getting old and wearing out.
If you look at certain figures, say, in the Bible, Moses was 120 years old.
He climbed Mount Sinai and laid down and died.
Abraham died a natural death without disease.
His wife Sarah did.
His grandson Jacob did.
These are people who died a natural death, but not from disease.
Disease is not necessary for a person to die.
So you think the biblical story of people living to incredible ages before the flood was absolutely correct, and you attribute it to the way they lived and what they ate?
Well, there were several other things.
First of all, the atmosphere was much different.
There was much higher oxygen content before the flood, so they could live longer.
Secondly, there was a water canopy around the earth before the flood, which caused much more temperate conditions and not the extremes of hot and cold.
And then the other thing was they were not eating meat.
When they started eating meat and all these other things changed, the oxygen content went down and all that.
The life expectancy dropped from close to a thousand years to 120 years in like, uh, eight or ten generations.
All right.
Well, there you are.
Doctor, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the final hour.
Dr. Lorraine Day is my guest.
Food, and I'll bet even sex, is a problem.
Oh, it is.
We covered that, actually, in prior shows.
She's got something that moves my soul And she knows I'd love to love her But you let me down every time.
Can't make up mine.
She's no one's lover.
Tonight with me she'll be so inviting.
I want her all for myself.
Oh, damn, dear, should I?
Oh, the night is our world City lights painted good In the day, nothing matters It's the night, turn around
In the night, no control Through the wall, something's breaking
Wearing white, I'm still walking Down the street, of my soul
Take myself, take myself, I'm cold Wanna take a ride?
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That's me alright.
Good morning everybody.
Dr. Lorraine Day is here with a pretty tough to swallow message.
More ways than one.
But you don't kill the messenger.
You might argue about the message, but you don't kill the messenger, and so we'll get back to the messenger in a moment.
All right, back to it.
Dr. Lorraine Day is my guest.
Now, there's a link to her website online.
If you're used to doing that, just go to the guest area, and you can jump right over to her website and or go directly.
She also has a telephone number you may call if you are not a Webby, and that phone number, 24 hours a day, is 800-574-2437.
That's 1-800-574-2437.
Right, Doctor?
That's correct.
Okay.
All right.
A lot of people are writing on the Fast Blast here.
The lady needs a good steak.
Well, I'm well, and I survived what the doctor's diagnosed as terminal cancer.
And the people who are writing that are waiting for their own.
Our first time caller on the line, you're on the air with Dr. Day.
Hi.
Are we speaking to me?
Yeah, we're speaking to you.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, I'm Mark from suburban Philadelphia area.
And on a cell phone, I can tell a cell phone.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That's correct.
I have kind of a two-pronged question.
One's concerning my doctor.
I have glaucoma and I go to an ophthalmologist who is a surgeon at probably one of the best-known hospitals in the country as far as eyes are concerned.
In conversation with her, I listened to something that always struck me as a little strange up until tonight when I listened to some of the things that Dr. Day was saying.
This lady has a hobby and spends all of her spare time working in her garden growing vegetables, and she will not use any pesticides or commercial fertilizers.
She complains about the grubs and things like that, and she works like a dog to prevent these from spreading.
And I'm just wondering if that's because she knows what Dr. Day knows.
Well, that's right.
What if you were at my house and I fixed a nice big salad for you and I said, before you can eat it, I have to spray it with Raid?
You know, that would not be very appetizing.
Wouldn't suit me too well.
No, but that's what happens in the fields.
And they spray them repeatedly with pesticides.
All she's doing is saying, I don't want pesticides on my food.
And of course, it's much better for the soil because, you know, the soil is being wiped out by the way they're doing the farming.
We are not treating the Earth very well.
Yeah, I see.
I see.
Well, you know, we never discussed it from the point of view that we're talking about it.
You're talking about it tonight.
Yeah.
But it just struck me odd, and you know, when I first heard this, I thought that she was, you know, just perhaps some kind of a religious believer.
No, she's just trying to eat healthy.
Right.
The other half of my question is, I don't know if there's any benefit, but is there any benefit as far as specifically aimed at the effects of glaucoma?
Yes.
Glaucoma is most likely, I'm still studying glaucoma, but I'm almost positive glaucoma is caused by the same things that cause high blood pressure.
You see, when your body is dehydrated, when it doesn't have enough water, and you don't have to feel thirsty because we overcome our thirst mechanism.
We don't drink water, we drink coffee and caffeinated soda, so the body becomes dehydrated.
And it goes into a state of crisis, so it tries to hang on to every bit of water that it has.
Your eye has a mechanism inside that produces fluid to keep the pressure up in your eyeball so you can see, because if the pressure is too low, you can't see.
It also has an exit area so the water that's produced or the fluid that's produced in your eye can be recirculated and go out of your eye and more is formed.
But when your body is in a state of crisis and does not have enough water, it will close off that exit area in your eye and then the fluid in your eye continues to be formed and so the pressure builds up.
The way you get your body out of crisis is to drink more water and stop the caffeine.
However, your ophthalmologist will often tell you your pressure is high.
Don't drink water because they don't understand the mechanism.
Now, that's one thing my wife does do.
She makes me drink enormous amounts of water.
That's why you're still alive.
To the point where I'm walking around and sloshing.
Right.
I can actually hear my stomach sloshing around.
Well, good.
That's a good sign.
But it's not Fun.
I mean, you have this monstrous glass of water put in front of you several times a day, and then, oh man, another glass of water.
Sheesh.
Well, that's one reason you feel as well as you do.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Yeah, good evening.
This is Tim from Coal Lake, Alberta, Canada.
Yes, welcome.
In the desert of the White Sea, if you know what white is in snow.
Lorraine, When you started tonight on the program, I was plugging in, I was right at the stove plugging in a coffee pot, and you started talking, and you know what I did?
What?
I plugged it, pulled out the juicer, and destroyed a bunch of carrots.
Good for you!
Good for you!
I started that, I think you're on our year, it was a year ago last November, and I listened to the program, and I just said, hey man, you've got to smarten up.
Good.
And I started juicing, but there's one thing I just want to ask about, the question was, About a year ago, I've been a beer drinker.
I mean, oh, there's probably a lot of Art's listeners out there who drink beer.
Art drinks beer.
Yeah.
Well, I've been drinking, I'm 46 years of age, and I've been drinking it all my life.
Not in great quantities, you know, just during the week two or three times.
But it came to a point about a year ago that, you know, when I had three or four or five or six beers, I'd get a little bit of pain in my side and I'd start passing blood.
In my, you know, in my stool.
So it was intestinal.
So I went in and I had a bunch of tests done, the barium and all that kind of stuff.
And they said, well, we don't see any problem.
But so I've been experimenting.
And whenever I drink, you know, like five or six beer at once, it triggers in, it happens all over again.
But if I stay away from it, and I know the carrot juice, it really helps.
Because it helps... Well, I'm not a doctor, but I don't think you should get blood in your stool from beer.
No, well, that's not... That's very unusual.
Like the alcohol, maybe?
The alcohol in the beer is triggering an ulcer?
Well, but if you had an ulcer, let me tell you, if you have an ulcer in your stomach, the alcohol can dehydrate you and help cause an ulcer in your stomach, but you don't have bright red blood in your stool.
What you will have is like black, tarry stools, because by the time the blood gets uh... to the to the end of your in-depth then it will turn
dark and so it won't be bright red bright red blood if you have bright red blood
in your still that something that lower down
and so if you're having some problem lower down in your in-depth in that
triggered by the alcohol that's a very unusual thing but if you have found
that that happens each time
then of course the logical thing to do would be stopped drinking the uh...
water your story for all you users out there
Thank you.
And this is a true story, too.
I went on a, uh, a cruise, you know, and took a few hundred listeners with me.
And one of the features of this gigantic, luxurious cruise ship was a juice bar.
And I've never been a juicer.
But, you know, it was free.
So I sat down, said, pour us a double, you know, and they gave us, they put in all these things into the juicer and they let you see it while they do it.
And then they give you this concoction that looks like a witch's brew, and you down it, and you say, boy, I just did a good thing for my body.
And then about two hours later, you walk in to take a, I mean, to relieve yourself, and your urine is bright red, and you go, oh my God!
That's because you had beads in it.
That's right, there were beads in it.
And I'll tell you, I thought, I said, honey, come here, this is it, it's the end.
Well, beets will also make your stool red, as well as your urine red.
You just have to know that.
Yeah, but you don't know that until you've had your first juice.
Well, there's not beet juice in every juice.
God, I thought I was dying.
That was it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Going once.
Hello.
Yes.
This is Jerry in South Point, New Jersey.
Hello, Jerry.
Hi, I've got one question.
Yes.
Gary Nall had a, he was quoting from The Lancet, and it was a test done late last year, and it had something to do with a triggering mechanism possibility that creates mad cow.
Because he had rats, the scientists tested on like 30 rats that showed the symptoms.
Spongiform in the brain, but they didn't show the symptoms that rats would normally have.
Going through mazes, they didn't bump into walls, all that kind of stuff that would indicate that they were infected.
Then they ground, but these animals lived a normal life.
They had no symptoms at all, but their brain was Swiss cheesed.
Then they did, they ground up the brain tissue and injected it into the animals unaffected.
Within 60 days, these animals came down with the disease and died, thereby hinting that there might be a triggering mechanism.
My thinking is, with these five-year-olds that are getting it in England, could this
prion be attaching itself to, let's say, the sperm of the ovum and have a, let's say, already
a 15-year or 20-year cycle to its existence?
And when it gets into a child, its immune system is already compromised by all the dumb
food they're eating and the fact that they have an immature immune system.
Bang, all of a sudden they get the disease and they die.
Well, first of all, I'd have to look at that article and look at it to see if clearly that's
what it says.
Well, Gary said it was just preliminary, so I'm thinking this...
Yeah, well, it's probably...
We'd have to see a lot more evidence for that.
But the problem is the children now are developing cancer.
Some children are born with cancer.
It doesn't have to have anything attached to the sperm.
Children are getting cancer at younger and younger ages.
You have to look at what the mother has been eating and the way she's been living.
So these things, even mad cow disease or Creutzfeldt-Jakob, It can occur because Americans have been existing on a fast food orgy for a number of years, and so the human race is actually getting weaker and more sickly.
I have a question.
Can the human form of Mad Cow be passed from mother to child in pregnancy?
If I remember correctly, it can.
Yes, it can.
It can be transmitted.
It's kind of a dim future.
Well, it is a dim future because, again, you see, these things have been going on, and look how people don't want to even hear them now.
People don't want to hear them because they want to continue living and eating as they've been doing, and yet we are wrecking our bodies and wrecking the earth.
Okay.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Lorraine Day.
Hello.
Hi.
This is Jen in San Diego and I have a question for Dr. Day.
Dr. Day, I am a vegetarian and I have been diagnosed with FSGS kidney disease.
And I get acupuncture.
When you say FSGS, you're going to have to suggest what you're meaning because there are many different acronyms in medicine that mean different things.
Okay, it's focal segmental glomerulosclerosis.
Glomerulosclerosis, okay.
And I have been told there's no cure for it.
I lead a very healthy lifestyle and what can I do About this disease.
Am I just doomed to be put on dialysis and kidney transplant?
Or is there anything that I can do?
No.
Yes, there is something you can do.
You are not doomed.
There is no incurable disease.
There is no incurable disease.
And even if you are eating quite well, I would suggest that you start looking at other things in your life besides your food.
And you may not be eating as pure as you think.
If you look at my video, diseases don't just happen.
You will see the kinds of things that we're doing to ourselves to destroy ourselves, and you may get some idea.
If you go on my website and look at the personal letter, look at that, and then the video diseases don't just happen.
I think you'll find the answers.
Okay.
Okay?
But you can reverse your disease.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
First time caller line, your turn with Dr. Day.
Hi.
Hello.
I'm calling from southern New Mexico.
Okay.
Amos Dorothy.
I am right now suffering from widespread urticaria, hives, which result in sleep loss.
My blood pressure has gone sky high.
My pulse is racing.
I went to my doctor today.
She's an internist.
I have faith in her.
However, I feel like I'm getting over-medicated.
Is this My system breaking down, my immune system breaking down, or what is happening.
Yes, it is your immune system breaking down and your urticaria, which is generalized itching, which can be very severe, is not due to a deficiency of drugs.
When she's giving you medication, it's not going to cure your problem.
What it is doing, it is going to make you more lethargic and it's going to have lots of other side effects.
What you need to do is stop the things that are causing this severe itching.
One of the things can be dairy products.
The other thing is Not enough water, you've got to rehydrate your body, eliminate all dairy products including cheese and all of those kinds of things and start looking at what you're putting in your body as well as the stress that you're under.
All of those things.
And again, you go to my website, you can look, I've got information on the video.
Diseases don't just happen.
You know, Dr. Dale, I want to ask you this.
On behalf of all of us out here who are probably like I am, almost everything that's fun isn't good for you.
got it the exact step-by-step plan that you need to look at to get well
you know doctor they want to ask you this uh...
on behalf of all of us out here who are probably like i am
everything that's fun
isn't good for you i suppose you would argue that uh...
it's only fun because that's what we used to as as having fun but
tell me you can really get to the point where all you want
all you want in life is a good carrot or
you know a good squash or a good
bunch of salary or something and and you don't occasionally want
them big quarter pounder
with fries No, I never won a quarter pounder with fries.
Never?
No, never.
But I'll tell you this, I enjoy eating.
I enjoy eating as much as most people do.
But it's not the main focus of my life.
And so when my life is at stake, I can give up whatever is necessary.
And besides that, I enjoy eating a lot.
And anybody who comes to my house, whether they're a meat eater or not, always enjoys the food.
I mean, and it's not just passable.
It is excellent.
I could cook you meal after meal after meal that you would enjoy and you would never miss your meat.
Oh, that's a challenge.
I'd like to see that.
That's right.
Well, all right.
I would have to see that to believe it.
I mean, if there's not meat somewhere on that plate, if there's not some kind of dead animal on my plate, it's not a real dinner.
But you're saying that you really could fix something.
Absolutely.
Alright, let's run over it one more time.
Your website is?
www.drday.com and the phone number is 1-800-574-2437.
DrDay.com and the phone number is 1-800-574-2437.
That's 1-800-574-2437 and there's information on mad cow disease, vaccinations, cancer,
AIDS, attention deficit disorder and just about anything else you'd like to know.
Alright.
When do you anticipate that American health authorities will have no choice but to admit that Mad Cow is present and they'll begin to talk about steps they're taking and so forth and so on?
Well, they're already doing that.
They're already talking about steps that they're taking to make sure that they don't have it here, although I'm sure they know that it's already here.
Even Stan Prusiner says it is most likely in this country.
He's being politically correct.
I would think that within three years, they would not be able to avoid it, although I can't tell.
They can lie a lot.
They did in the AIDS epidemic for a long, long time, and they continue to lie.
Yes, but with the pressure of knowing what's happening in Europe, it seems to me that at some point it will break.
You'll reach a critical point, and they're going to have to say something.
That's right.
It may be even sooner than that, because they're preparing the public right now.
They're saying, we don't think it's here, but maybe it's here, and we really have to watch out for this, but you're really safe, and I give you a scenario On this information that I have on my website, you know, first thing they do is they outright deny it.
And then they say, well, we thought it might be a problem, but it's really not, so keep on doing what you're doing.
And then the next thing is they say, well, it kind of is a problem, but don't panic.
It's not really a problem.
Keep on eating what you're eating.
And then the next one is, well, there have been some people dying of it, but there aren't very many and your risk is low, so keep on eating what you're eating.
And you know, that's the way they do for a long time.
All right.
Well, as always, it has been very enlightening having you on the program.
Well, thank you.
And I'm going to consider all of this and go have a glass of water, at least.
Good for you.
All right, doctor.
Thank you very much.
Thank you so much.
And good night.
Bye-bye.
We'll do it again.
All right.
Well, there was Dr. Day.
And as I said, I think you probably know the message is accurate.
Don't blame the messenger.
Here for your consideration.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell.
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