Ed Dames, remote viewing pioneer, reveals U.S. military psychic programs were shut down after misuse by senators and occult associations, though China may still exploit them. He confirms artificial structures on Mars and the Moon but insists NASA’s focus isn’t SETI—citing DNA manipulation in Africa’s Great Rift Valley as key to extraterrestrial clues. Richard C. Hoagland warns of abrupt climate shifts from ice cores, accusing NASA of hiding mission failures like Mars Climate Orbiter’s loss, while linking Antarctic icebergs (B17, 183x23 miles) to FEMA’s coastal buyouts. Meanwhile, Art Bell announces retirement on April 26, 2000, after years of legal battles tied to false child molestation accusations, ensuring the show’s "strange" focus continues under new hosts. [Automatically generated summary]
We have NASA news, but before I get to that, Richard, a second large iceberg has broken off the Antarctic and the Ross Ice Shelf.
Let me read this to you, Reuters.
A second giant iceberg has broken off from Antarctica and is bumping into a huge iceberg that broke off the Ross Ice Shelf last week.
Matthew Lazara of the University of Wisconsin's Antarctic Meteorological Research Center found the latest iceberg, which will be named B17, while scanning images taken from a satellite orbiting the poles.
He said the new iceberg, check this, lies to the north and east of Roosevelt Island and is 80 miles by 12 miles.
The larger iceberg that broke off the other day is 183 miles by 23 miles.
He's been Clinton's head of FEMA ever since Clinton was elected.
He sat on Fox the other day, about 20 minutes.
They had a very elaborately produced piece with all kinds of background footage, B-roll, and he basically talked about major climate change.
They're buying people out around the ocean fronts.
They figure that it's cheaper for the feds to simply buy people's homes and never let anybody build there than to go in and give them loans to rebuild that never get repaid.
So, I mean, there's a fundamental shift, both climatological and political, around this issue.
And at the risk of beating an old dog, a friend of mine has a book that I recommend to people because it basically is a heads up on things are not going to continue the way they have been.
More and more, I mean, the chief U.S. meteorologist along with the English meteorologist both said rapid climate change.
And I'm not sure everybody was listening, but now more and more of the real mainstream guys are beginning to say, hey, wait a minute here, something else is happening.
As you know, the Americans and the Soviets back over the last 10 years drilled very deep holes, both in the Arctic and in the Antarctic, going down, I think, maybe a mile or something like that.
Several hundred thousand years, because you can basically take the cores from these deep holes up, slice them apart, and then do microsection, thin sections, and measure year by year, like dating trees by means of their tree rings, the depths of snow and ice that have compacted down and down and down.
And in the ice, there are little bubbles of air that are trapped.
And those air bubbles contain the atmosphere samples from 10,000, 50,000, 200,000 years ago.
So they have been looking at an enormous slice of climate, pun intended, for at least the last decade.
And the big surprise that you report in Global Superstorm is that the climate, as judged by those ice cores by both Soviet and American researchers, appears to be able to shift on a dime and to go from balmy and sunny and summery to glacial in less than a year.
And that may be the limit of the measurement because, of course, you have snow in certain seasons.
So it may even shift more rapidly, as you propose as a possible hypothesis in your book.
The point is that what I'm intrigued with is why.
And everybody thinks, Al Gore, global warming, too many cars, too much CO2, et cetera, et cetera.
But what the record is telling us is that before there was anybody here that could produce internal combustion engines, something was going on.
And we've got to take that data and say, wait a minute, are we up against a big set of cycles?
Well, this is where, of course, John Brandenburg and Monica Letzername's book is so intriguing, because John, who was a member of our independent Mars investigation, the first Mars investigation I organized at SRI Lotho's many years ago, has a very interesting evolution in his consciousness and thinking on many fronts, not the least of which is he now sees Mars as the example of there but for something goes the Earth.
And you did a very excellent interview with him the other night, and they laid out their case that Mars is the example.
Mars is the, if you will, the prototype of what not to do.
Now, I happen to think that a lot of weird stuff happened to Mars a la Tom Van Flandern, and that Mars is not exactly the best example in the solar system because it's had some unique things occur that will never happen here.
But the general perception of planetology, looking at the other planets of the solar system for lessons to be learned, we know there are grand cycles on Mars.
If you look at the polar caps, if you look at Malin's latest stunning pictures, it's amazing how this guy can get pictures of everywhere but Sidonia.
Look at his pictures of the comparison between the two polar caps of Mars, the North Pole and the South Pole, and you can almost count the rivets, you can almost count the individual little ice crystals in the northern pole ice cap of water.
We know those poles are layered like the layers of the poles at the Earth.
And the presumption, going back to when Sagan was writing about this 30 years ago, is that those layerings in the polar caps of Mars have to do with seasonal and processional and longer-term cycles.
And in that case, going to the Martian poles would give us a handle on how nature forces planets into these periods where you really have a bad hair day because it changes suddenly and not for the better.
Anyway, look, the latest report, the official report from NASA, seems to suggest that the rockets that were fired were not fired at an appropriate moment or long enough, and that the spacecraft may have bashed itself into Mars.
The one thing that I don't get is that it would have already discharged its two little friends by that time, or should have.
Well, I guess I'm jaundiced, but when I was listening to John Brandenburg the other night talk on your show about people at JPL telling him that they didn't really want to find anything because it would kind of upset the apple cart.
I mean, he came right out and flat said that a JPL employee, mid-level, came out and told him straight on, we don't want to find something big on Mars.
Well, when the SPSR group, the Society for Planetary Study Research, you know, with McDaniel now in Carlado and Brandenburg and De Petro and Arvis Crater and, you know, a whole bunch of them, when they had their meeting at headquarters with Carl Pilker and the so-called nod was given to take from the official side,
from the management side, from high levels of NASA headquarters, the so-called three images before Malin said over my dead body, and then NASA had to kind of use some leverage and some money to grease the skids, and they didn't do that until we got all those facts.
And so the politics of this are complicated.
When they had that meeting, it was very clear that they felt that they were going to be in Clover and that Sidonia research would then foresee to PACE.
When it didn't, when after those three pictures, Malin said never, ever again, and nobody ever saw anything decent from Sidonia even on those three pictures, they felt they'd been snookered.
But they've been looking, I believe, strongly, and we have some evidence tonight to back up this pretty major assertion, that they've been snookered because they think it's economics.
They think it's simply a competition between JPL and Houston.
JPL wanting unmanned probes, Houston wanting to go with men and women and guys.
It's for people desperately trying to stay on the paper with some mainstream excuse when, in fact, they don't want to look at the real excuse, which is they don't want us to know, period.
And, you know, the SPSR folks bought the economic excuse, and that's what Brandenburg was telling you, that JPL people were feeding him this.
Well, it's really all about competition and money and funding.
And if Johnson got the money, we wouldn't get the money.
Look, the lie to this excuse is the following.
It's called history.
When we were getting ready to go to the moon in a little project called Apollo, which I sat in on every single day because I was Walter Kronkack's right-hand guy for science and space science in those years, so I was paying attention.
We had to proceed going to the moon with what?
With robots.
Of course.
With unmanned probes.
The scenario that Johnson, you know, the Manned Spacecraft Center, could go to Mars without an enormous tripling or quadrupling or tenfold increase in JPL's budget for a flotilla of unmanned robots to make sure it was safe before the Martians.
Remember, it's a lot tougher landing on an airless place where you've got to use total rockets.
We send these probes.
They aerobreak into the atmosphere.
They use parachutes.
And they use rockets basically to cushion the last few hundred feet.
Not really.
It requires a pretty fast robot with an inertial guidance system, and basically the robot measures the pitches and rolls and yaws of your entering aeroshell, and then it steers it, just like the command module from Apollo was steered by the so-called S-turns and the energy dump maneuvers when the astronauts came back.
Except they had to do it by hand with a little help from a very primitive computer.
Remember, we've gone through an incredible computer revolution.
We've got machines now that can almost think.
They can certainly talk.
And, you know, JPL is at the front edge of that technology, not the back end.
The stuff you can buy in Radio Shack is trivial compared to the stuff that the government, the DOD, the military, The Pentagon, JPL, NASA, the CIA, the NSA, all those folks have access to.
So, you mean to tell me that we can't do it?
No, of course we can.
So, all of this strange stuff that's happened, frankly, I think is horsebucky.
And I think this whole Young report and what happened to Mars Climate Orbiter and Mars Polar Lander is a bit of a cover story.
And I have some proof, which past the end of the hour, we're going to talk about the politics we have learned.
And the person we learned them from is no less prestigious and authoritative.
And, you know, the final say on this than the administrator of NASA himself, Mr. Daniel Golden.
Well, you know, Richard, I've listened and I have not fully embraced, but I am coming to a threshold of belief with regard to this, which is going to be in agreement with you for a whole lot of reasons.
Brandenburg, I thought, made an awful lot of good points the other night about the face and about even the poor photographs integrated with the old face photographs.
Total up to a story that, as Tom Van Flanderen has said, it's got to be billions to one, billions to one, that it's not an artificial object.
Well, remember, we have the work of the SPSR team.
We have the work of our guys.
We have independent experts like Tom Van Flanderen.
We have Kinthea, remember, artists who's worked for 15 years on this and who carefully compared the two data sets with their own models and the computer modeling and all that?
We have an enormous body of evidence that says they're hiding the most extraordinary discovery in the history of mankind.
Well, the mystery is you've got a guy who's a major, major player in the film industry, produces a blockbuster film that takes number one the first week out.
And the night that it goes and premieres, he disappears to France and gives one little dinky interview over the internet to some fan site, which is linked to Enterprise, by the way.
And I think I have figured out what De Palma's trip was, and I'm writing a review which we'll post in the next few days, and people can read it, and then they can all attack me like they usually do.
But the point is that there are converging threads here.
And the converging threads are there's been this major contrate between JPL, which has kind of thought it owned Mars, and headquarters and Johnson.
And people have been fed information that, well, it's real, but it's all about money.
And tonight we have new news, folks, because it turns out it's not about money.
It's about what we all have thought has been going on for the last 50 years.
And for that information, they'll all have to hold on because we approacheth the bottom of the hour.
Richard C. Hoagland is my guest, and what he's about to tell you, I think may confirm everything you suspected as you've listened all this time might be true.
We'll be right back.
I admit I'm a little naive.
I grew up with a kind of a Boy Scout mentality when it came to our agencies like the FBI, even the CIA.
I can't say that to the NSA.
Certainly NASA.
You know, it was all American and above board and everything.
But if you're known by the company you keep, then what might we know about the leader of NASA, Daniel S. Golden, and the company he keeps, Richard?
Well, let's set the stage here because this is not happening in a vacuum, unintended.
I think that this has been set up for us to eavesdrop and peer into the inner inner sanctum.
And I don't know quite how it was arranged, but it certainly looks like it was arranged from several on-the-record statements made by several of the players.
This all started, as you know, last fall when En route to Mars with Mars Climate Orbiter, suddenly the agency mixed up metric units and English units and plunk, a $125 million spacecraft went splat in the atmosphere of Mars.
I mean, here we have the prospect based on a lot of us independent guys' research for like a generation, 20 years, that there's an ancient set of ruins on Mars waiting to be discovered by the mainstream with untold potential for humanity if and when this occurs.
And the question is, if this was really true, Dick, how could it be kept so secret?
Everybody would know, which is the biggest ruse in the world because there are all kinds of major things that have been kept secret for decades, centuries.
It's generations.
True.
Okay, so then you've got other stuff that we found.
On the moon, you know, you talked with Ingo last night.
Now, we've got two missions, total price about $365 mil, which is not even chump change in the arenas where billions of dollars here and billions of dollars there, and pretty soon it adds up to real money, as someone from a senator once said.
And now you've got major investigations.
You've got the Stevens Commission, and you've got the Young report going to be filed.
And then a few days ago, we get this UPI story out of, of all people, James Ogre, the mouthpiece for Houston for manned missions for the Soviet space program, you know, the world's best Expert on the Soviets and what they did or did not do in space.
The person who has been absolutely in NASA's corner 1,000% and tells all of us out here, me included, you know, you're all crazy, there's nothing going on, you're just seeing things, et cetera, et cetera, suddenly Oberg Wright for a major wire service a story attacking NASA for not only knowing that there was a problem with the Mars polar lander before it got to Mars, but covering it up.
And it still has not been explained because what Golden the next day, the head of NASA, in front of Senate committees, which we'll get to in a second, said was, are you out of your mind?
I put my reputation, I would never cover anything up.
We put everything on the record.
We had press conferences here.
We laid out the test results there, et cetera, et cetera.
Neglecting to address a key point in overex accusation, which was not that they didn't lay out the engine problems, the braking rockets, when you get to Mars, you've got to slow down, which are separate from the braking rockets when you're just a few hundred feet above the surface.
There are two different sets of braking rockets that we're going to discuss here.
The first set are you moving along at thousands of miles per hour, and you've got to slow down, otherwise you'll smack into the atmosphere of Mars like Mars Clive and Orbiter and splat.
Oberg's claim was that the testing of those engines not only was bad, but that the test conditions had been changed so that they ultimately could pass the alter test, and NASA covered that up.
And that was never addressed by any of the ultimate responses by NASA.
In fact, when UPI, during one of his hearings, Golden sat there at the table and said, well, you know, it'd be really nice if UPI had called me to get our response before they published this irresponsible thing.
Well, after the fact, they have tried, repeatedly, I understand, to reach Golden for comment on the ensuing details of the unfolding story, and NASA has refused to return the calls of UPI.
So last night, I'm up very late searching because of the grace of the one day, Peter's news coming and us switching and all that.
Sent me an extra day to unearth what I think is the earthquake here, boys and girls, the thing that pulls all these threads in this unraveling quilt together.
Because in the middle of the night, I discovered the speech by Dan Golden a couple of days ago at JPL pursuant to the issuance on Tuesday of this week of the Thomas Young Report.
Now, Thomas Young actually knew Tom Young back when he was one of the high-level managers of the Viking program back during when we went to Mars in 1976.
Tom was working for NASA.
He then moved laterally to work for Martin Marietta, which eventually became Lockheed Martin and became a high executive there for many, many years.
He is now in retirement, and they called him out as an expert, kind of an independent expert, to oversee a team of 18 people to debrief everybody at JPL and the contractors and Lockheed Martin to figure out what the hell went wrong with Mars Polar Lander.
And after weeks of this, you know, from December to March, on Tuesday of this week, he issued his report, and everybody covered it.
CNN covered it, CBS covered it, Fox, et cetera.
And it's all over the internet.
Well, two days afterwards, Dan Golden, the head of NASA, tiptoes out on an airplane to JPL to basically brief his guys out there, who, of course, took the brunt of the criticism of the Young Report.
The Young Report basically says, and you can find this all over the web, that they skimp too much.
Sammy made the pants not too long, but too short.
And they had too few managers, and they let all kinds of things go by that in the good old days they didn't.
And for want of, you know, a nail, the shoe and the spacecraft and the mission and the country was lost, and isn't that terrible?
So Golden goes to JPL to basically lay out for his guys a pep talk and say, well, you know, you're the best and the brightest, and you're unique, and we need you, and you're going to help us fix this, and we'll go on to greater glory and greater heights.
And frankly, it's only half a billion dollars, and so why should we?
In this game, as you said last night, you love reading between the lines.
I was astonished to hear you say that, my friend.
Well, I do.
Because many times I lay out lines and you don't read.
But here, you are easily on the same page because this is what Dan Golden said to the troops at JPL two days ago.
He first of all thanked the head of Caltech, David Baltimore, a Nobel Prize laureate in medicine.
He says, actually, David canceled plans to be here today, I think, is just a small expression of his strong support of the people here and the work they do.
Dan Golan is telling everybody, everyone listening right now, Dan Golan is talking to you to tell you what's really been going on in the following sentences.
He said, and I quote, I'd also like to acknowledge Admiral Inman, head of the JPL Oversight Committee at Caltech.
Now, he couldn't be here today, but I talked to him my phone.
His commitment to the team here is also unwavering, and I thank him for that.
And every bell and whistle and fireworks went off, and at 3 o'clock in the morning, I said, holy crap.
Well, he was the former head of the National Security Agency.
He's been involved in naval intelligence and the CIA.
Clinton tried to make him head of, I believe, the CIA at some point in the past.
He's been the key guy involved in every single intelligence operation of this government for the last 30 or 40 years.
And he's also been heavily involved in the UFO controversy.
In other words, here is Mr. Black Project himself, who is head of an oversight committee at Caltech, whose job it is to make sure JPL does not stray from the party line.
For anybody who thought that there might not be any darkness, any dark programs, anything we really might not know, because they tell us everything, would Admiral Inman, in the opinion of most of you out there, be the kind of guy who would tell us everything?
He's oversight, for God's sakes, for JPL.
So y'all think about this real hard because I have, and I think a reasonable person with all of this beginning to get laid out on them has got to say, only thing we can do, we know there's two more passes coming up where they can get real photographs of the face the way we knew it and loved it at about the same angle and so forth and so on.
We have, we just must, we must petition Dan Golden and anybody else we can think of who will have influence to get the damn pictures taken.
We have been trying to get other people to look at this problem for now several years.
And the last few weeks we've been focusing on one, Senator John McCain.
Let me quote to you what John McCain said in response to the Young report a couple days ago.
He says, my initial review of the Young Report on Mars Polar Lander and Deep Space 2 missions confirmed my belief that NASA's senior management is missing in action.
This report is an embarrassment to the agency.
I believe it's important that this committee exercises more rigorous oversight of NASA from this point forward.
Now here's the marching orders, troops, okay?
If you want to change this, you need to do two things.
You need to fax John McCain at 202-228-2862.
That's 202-228-2862.
And Art will give this out at the end of our segment.
And tell him you want this to stop.
Tell him that the jig is up, that there's tremendous ice under the tip of this iceberg.
It's not just about money.
It's about stealing the American space program from the American people under the guise of national security and people whose job it is to keep us from knowing.
We've got a guy in Washington, Steve Bassett, who is poised to go over and talk to McCain's people.
In your faxes, tell him that he is your designated hitter.
That if they want a briefing on everything, the whole UFO, ET, ruins, NASA involvement here, the ice below the tip of the iceberg, have a sit-down meeting with Steve Bassett on behalf of Enterprise Mission, on behalf of ART, and behalf of basically yourselves.
You've got a whole bunch, 2,800 hours of new videos that no one's had time to go through.
You've got photographs from Apollo, photographs from lunar orbiters, photographs from biking, photographs from Pathfinder.
There's an enormous body of evidence, but obviously this political process is broken.
And to rectify it, you need a guy.
I mean, McCain has now been stepping up to the plate, and I'm getting these facts as coming in.
The facts are working.
The inside word in Washington is McCain is paying attention to NASA because you out there in the country do give a damn, and you've been letting him know, and you simply need to turn up the heat.
You need to let him know loud and clear that he can be the guy on the white horse to bring sanity to this insane situation where you pay the money and they get to call the tune.
Let me say thank you for being here and stirring The pot wonderfully for us, and I will give out these numbers again, McCain, after we get the taxes out, all right?
All right, for the past year, there has been an unsatisfactory situation with regard to my ability to do the program.
And as you know, I have been doing the best I can and have been doing about three days a week for about the past year.
And many of you have asked many questions that I've been unable to respond to.
And in a moment, I hope you're going to understand why I've been unable to respond to them.
But I have a statement that I'm going to read for you that I hope will clear up a lot of things.
Not an easy statement.
And I'll kind of follow it up with some additional information.
But I guess there is no other way to do it other than to just do it.
So if you would listen very closely, I think this will explain a lot for you.
Here we go.
In order that you all understand the gravity of the announcement I'm about to make, it's going to be necessary for me to repeat some very painful events that have occurred to my family over the past several years.
On May 16th of the year 1997, my son, Art Bell IV, was kidnapped, transported across state lines, and raped by a substitute teacher from his own high school.
The assailant was HIV positive.
My son was a minor.
He was only 16 years old at the time.
The teacher involved was tried, convicted, and is now serving a life sentence.
My son, though, as you might imagine, was sent into a psychological tailspin, which continues to this very day.
We're trying very, very hard to help him recover and lead a more normal life.
Some positive events have occurred toward that end, and your prayers are welcome.
Please keep them coming.
While the police work and the trial of my son's assailant were underway, difficult as it was for me to continue my daily radio programs, I did so.
Because my son was a minor at the time of the crime.
The records were sealed.
His name was not made public.
Something our society does to protect its own, its future, its young people.
As our family was working through this trauma in private, an event beyond all bounds of decency and humanity occurred.
On December 9th of 1997, just a few months after my son's ordeal, my own began.
Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent, along with David Hinkson and the assistance of others, Aired a broadcast, which incredibly, absolutely, incredibly accused me of committing the very same crime my son had suffered, child molestation.
The program further stated that I had paid to cover up an indictment in Nye County, Nevada, my own.
It further urged listeners to call me on air and ask if I had been indicted.
Of course, these accusations were entirely false, but nevertheless, the calls poured into my open line unscreened program asking if this was true.
I had no choice but to block out all these calls and keep my silence for fear of my son's situation becoming public.
This broadcast was made on WWCR Worldwide Shortwave Radio in Nashville, Tennessee.
The station has been described by newspapers and civic-minded organizations as one of the country's leading broadcasters of hate radio.
The individuals WWCR and its sister station, WNQM, have allowed to broadcast over the airwaves include a man who wrote a book entitled, The Hitler We Loved and Why, and another man who stated over the airwaves that Jews are the children of Satan and that African Americans are mud people.
In addition to broadcasting these proponents of hate and violence, this radio station has consciously decided not to spend money on a delay switch, not to conduct a careful background check of the people it places on the air, and to allow individuals to say almost anything they want in foreign languages without having staff on duty who can even understand what they're saying.
In my opinion, WWCR is one of the most irresponsible stations permitted to broadcast over the airwaves of this country.
Now, the fallout from that broadcast has been unbelievable.
Besides the unrelenting accusatory calls, others repeated this false rumor as though it was fact, resulting in several related lawsuits.
Many of you may have heard my defense played out on the airwaves and the internet.
No matter how hard I've tried to set the record straight, my torment and that of my family continues.
Recently, a radio host in Toronto, Canada, opened his morning show with the words, I'm Art Bell, and I molest little children.
All of this sent me into a psychological tailspin.
I felt I'd been dealt a blow I might not recover from.
Still, I continued my nightly broadcast as best I could.
In October of 1998, my son came to a crisis point, a situation so critical that nothing but my full-time attention would help.
So on that fateful day, October 13th of 1998, I resigned on air with no intention of returning.
But thanks to the efforts of my network, my best friend Alan Corbeth, Craig Kitchens, CEO of Premier Networks, and Randy Michaels, I was able to return.
But the pressure of having to defend myself against baseless, vile claims that I was a child molester eventually forced me to reduce my on-air hours.
Why the individuals behind the December 9th, 1997 broadcast by WWCR decided to make such a patently false and harmful broadcast remains for the courts to decide.
A major moment in this litigation is going to occur April 28th in Nashville, Tennessee.
If justice prevails, a trial, perhaps a protracted one, may follow.
It would be untrue for me to say this has not affected my air work.
It has.
It would be unfair to all of you not to give you my full-time best, and I can no longer do that.
The reality that after suffering the fate of my son's own molestation, I now stand destined to be tainted for life as a child molester has proven simply too much to bear.
God knows, I have tried.
For my son, I pray that somehow his wounds will heal, his mind's troubles fade into something of a normal life.
For myself, an ordeal looms ahead to clear my good name of accusations I committed a crime committed against my own son.
Nobody ever said life would be fair, only to be lived as the hand is dealt to you.
For all the years of joy my work has provided, I want to thank all of you and whatever creative force allowed it.
I have decided to retire from the broadcast business at the end of this month.
My last show to be April 26, 2000.
I will not do any media interviews on this subject.
I've already said more than any private person would have said.
A private world I now look forward to returning to.
Any further questions should be addressed to my attorney Gerard Fox at the law firm of Fox Sigler and Spillane in Los Angeles at Area Code 310-229-9300.
That's Fox, Sigler, and Spillane in Los Angeles at area code 310-229-9300.
Well, there you have it.
That's the announcement as such, and I'm glad to be able to level with you now and tell you why I am doing what I am doing and what I have been going through.
It has been very, very, very hard for me not to answer the emails, not to answer the people who said, why, you lazy bum, get back to work.
I can plenty of those.
So I hope to some degree that helps you to understand what has been going on during this period of time.
Now, I want to give you some assurances that I think will make you feel a little bit better.
Number one, Coast to Coast AM will continue.
This program in its current form, will continue, in other words, the same genre will continue.
It will continue to be a program devoted to What is it that we have done here?
The strange, the unusual, the bizarre?
It will continue in that vein, I can assure you of that.
And I've got another announcement.
Not only will it continue, but instead of five live days per week, Coast to Coast AM, beginning with my retirement, will begin to be live seven days a week.
That's right, seven days a week live.
Can you imagine that?
In addition, I would like to announce that within, oh, I don't know, about two weeks, our network, my network, Premier Radio Networks, will announce the successor to this program.
I don't know, the heir parent, the successor, whatever you want to call the person who's going to come in here and do all these strange things that I have done over these years.
Perhaps not in the same way, perhaps with a bit of a different edge to his personality or her.
But be assured, it will not only continue, but it will get bigger.
Something that I really want for the program more than anything else.
As you know, I love this program in a very deep, abiding way.
I love what we do here, and I want to assure you that will not change.
Now, I want to clear a couple of things up.
Earlier in the evening, the news began to break on the Drudge report.
Matt Drudge reported, well, I can read it.
It says late-night talk radio sensation art Bell is set to leave radio.
The Drudge report has learned.
According to sources, Bell will announce his resignation tonight, Friday, and will officially leave the air next Wednesday.
It goes on to say the announcement is bound to throw the radio industry upside down.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Bell has heard in over 400 markets.
Family concerns have convinced Bell to leave radio.
Premier is considering Ian Punnett of Atlanta as a replacement host to Bell, according to insiders.
Well, that's only partially correct.
Ian is certainly being considered with others and is definitely a contender for the position, but not necessarily the named heir parent.
As I told you, that'll be about two weeks from now when we announce that.
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Ingo Swan is regarded by many, we'll ask Ed, many as, you know, I guess the father of remote viewing.
He objected a little to that and said, well, with Hal putoff, okay.
But Ingo really began it.
He told us some incredible things last night about remote viewing.
Remarkable man.
Absolutely remarkable.
And I'm honored to have been able to interview him prior to leaving the radio.
Through the years, I have been interviewing Major Ed Deems, who is also a remote viewer, was part of the military remote viewing program.
There are some who doubt that.
I don't.
I have a full copy of his military service record, and I know exactly what he did, as much as they would put in there at any rate, certainly confirming he was absolutely an integral part of that project, the whole remote viewing project that was revealed one night on, night line, in kind of a wild way and shocked the nation.
And then, of course, from that sprang eventually SciTech, the company that he formed privately.
And now he's moving even beyond that in some ways.
He's major at names.
They nicknamed him Dr. Doom for good reason.
A lot of what he saw, or what he chose to see, and we'll talk a little bit about that, I guess, kind of weighed in on the negative side, frankly, to be honest with you.
And some of what you're going to hear tonight is going to be on the negative side, some on the positive.
But there is going to be some environmental news that is going to be very, very disturbing.
So let me issue my normal, hey, you better be careful who's listening to this kind of statement.
If this sort of thing bothers you, dire news or what seems to be dire news, or you have children around, then send them to bed.
They need not hear this.
Some of it is pretty rough stuff, and you can already see a lot of it coming, I'm sorry to say.
What he talked about two years ago has already, to a great degree, manifested itself.
He is Major Ed Dames, and here he is from Hawaii, ensconced in paradise.
It was hard for me to understand, Ed, how such a great natural like Ingo Swan was used to come up with what eventually became these very strict protocols that were used in the military.
He explained it, but I still didn't fully understand it.
It is a long story, but I can try to make it a short one.
Ingo was one of the few great naturals in this country in this era.
He mentioned a few others.
Hal Ahamed, Harold Sherman, were two others that were very good.
Pat Chase was the first one.
That were utilized as a baseline by the intelligence community to see if we could utilize their talents to gain access to programs that were very classified in other countries.
Ingo was the only lab rat, however, that studied himself.
Since he had experiences as an 18-year-old in Telluray, Colorado, where he grew up before he moved to New York City, he was introspective.
He looked at the way he recognized his abilities and determined to try to discern how he was acquiring this information.
And this is very, very important, because in the end, Hal Putoff, after years of research in the laboratory, turned to Ingo.
And they were desperate at this time because they were ready to lose a U.S. Army grant at the time, a very lucrative grant.
They had to come up with results.
And the results in this case, the replication was there.
Ingo Swan was able to replicate, to deliver the goods, that is, to accurately remote view targets over and over again using these controlled protocols that were set up.
Geographic coordinates were used at the time to remote view targets.
There wasn't a way that Ingo could describe how he was doing it, nor could Hal Putoff do that.
And finally, Hal turned to the guinea pig himself and said, can you explain how this is done?
And so it was actually Ingo Swan who laid out the steps, the cookbook, if you will, the recipe for how he was acquiring this data.
And that was the brainstorm.
This was a complete stroke of brilliance because not only was it correct, but in laying it out and assuming that this is an innate ability in man, what we had now was a model.
And with a model for how Ingo himself, the great natural psychic of the 21st century, was able to do this, the model could be used to teach others who, like me, were about as psychic as a rock.
And what this resulted in was a consistency, and this is the key term, a consistent performance over and over again, enough so that we could be used to support military operations, even in life or death circumstances.
That was the breakthrough.
And that is when I said thank you very much, Ingo, and I took this into the deep, dark, black world of intelligence.
Well, I just heard all that, but I'm still, I guess I crave details that probably can't be related.
But how Ingo puts into words something that should be indescribable because you don't know how the hell it happened.
No, how do you translate that to an eventual manual with real tight protocols telling people like you, who are a psychic as a rock, how to begin to train yourself to do an innately you see where I'm going here?
Yeah, it's a way, this of course is what my company has done for a living for 10 years, is that we train people to do this in very evolved ways, but very strict, rigorous protocols.
It's like language art, the way that I have ideas that I wish to express to you, for instance, right now.
And although at the pre-conscious level, I'm selecting words to use to speak with you, and they're being drawn from my lexicon, my vocabulary, my thesaurus, my memory banks.
There are some pre-conscious process that's doing this.
And it's autonomic.
It's automatic.
It's happening by itself.
Having said that, however, I still have to structure my sentences, the concatenation of subject, verb, object, to effectively communicate these ideas that are loose and fuzzy to you in something that is meaningful.
Well, that same kind of structure is what Ingo discovered.
The way, and it is a standardized way that for all of us as human beings, the way that our unconscious mind communicates data accurately when it does, to conscious awareness.
And Ingo was able to follow to slow down this train and say, okay, first comes this, next comes this class of information, then this.
It goes from the general fuzzy idea, which you call the gestal, to the general idea about a target, target being a person, place, thing, or event, to detail specifications, detailed specific things about the target, and finally sketches and drawings.
And the way that this is done was the way that was laid out in this model that in those days was called coordinate remote viewing.
In those days, Ingo, somebody just picked a target and wrote it down.
Ed Price was the same way.
They wrote the name of the target down, and mind was able to pick this up and to actually turn its unconscious attention to this target, and conscious awareness would describe it.
What the military needed was something a whole lot more systematic than that.
What we essentially was the same thing we did for missiles and bombs.
If I wanted to send a missile to Red Square, I would use the eight-digit coordinates for where I wanted this nose cone to drop down, right?
Well, we started using the same thing both as a control and as an operational modality, Cartesian coordinates, latitude and longitude.
What is at this specific latitude and longitude?
And this is how it started in terms of the systematic target description.
What is here?
Then Ingold found that he could not only describe the exterior of a site, let's say in the middle of a forest, there was a Soviet missile launcher, a transporter erector launcher.
He could describe that.
But when he was given coordinates for building, he was able to find that he could just as easily move inside of the building as well as describe the exterior, too.
And that's how all this started.
These are rudimentary now.
We've come a long way.
Ingo used to wax road at me when I called him the Wright brothers of remote viewing.
In fact, that's what He is.
Without him, there would be no flight, allegorically.
In 1989, I took all of the best and the brightest military remote viewers.
I took them because they were, as many of your listeners know, the program was falling apart from the inside.
So in order to preserve all of the professionalism and the discipline itself, since the government was about to abandon it, I took the viewers and formed SciTech.
And over the years evolved coordinate remote viewing into technical remote viewing.
The statistics they compiled during the 20 years of the military program with regard to accuracy rates, how do you compare those to technical remote viewing stats today?
Last night, Ingo said something that is perhaps in contention with something you and I have talked about in the past, and you said.
And that is, you know me, Ed, over the years I've become cynical.
And, you know, I saw the Ted Coppel program, and they announced, yes, we did it for 20 years, but no, we're not doing it anymore because it doesn't work, they said in the program.
Or they determined that it didn't work well enough, or whatever in the hell they said on Ted Coppel.
I don't know.
Point is, almost every remote viewer I've talked to, you included, have said the program is over.
It's done.
The U.S. government is now not conducting a program.
And I asked, Ingo, I'm sure you heard me last night.
There's people with interest at high levels of government, and they have hip-pocket attempts to try to resurrect this, but it's not going to happen for a number of reasons that we may or may not get into tonight.
But what the CIA did was damage control.
They wanted to put the kibosh on any attempt to have to explain this anymore because it was a political embarrassment, to be honest with you.
At the time they received the remnant of the Defense Intelligence Agency's program, all they had left was one ex-Army viewer and two crystal ball gazers.
They were literally tarot card readers.
And one was engaged in automatic writing, and it wasn't even a shadow of what the military program was.
That is why I took the military viewers, and that is why I felt justified in doing it, because the Defense Intelligence Agency trashed the program.
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In a moment, Ed Dames will be right back, and we'll get right back into it.
The End All right, once again, the doctor, Dr. June, Major Ed Dames, a remote viewer, a technical remote viewer, as in SciTech, and more that we'll talk about.
But I want to argue with you a little more.
I just, look, Ed, if it works, and you say it works, Ingo Swan says it works, and so many others say it works, and it obviously works, and we're not using it, and our potential enemies are, that's not, you know, that's not the CIA and the NSA that I know.
The NSA I know listens to all our phone conversations and our baby monitors.
One is that one real reason, strong reason, why we're not doing it is because this program, under various names, from Real Flame to Sun Street to Center Lane, the psychic warfare unit,
I don't think I have, in all my days of dealing in black units, and I've been in some of the blackest of the black, including NSA programs, I have never seen a unit or an organization that was subject to more ostracism, more scanning comments, was more of a white elephant than that psychic unit.
It was a hot potato.
It was passed from the Army, the DIA, the CIA at one point.
The Navy tried to get it.
The CIA tried to get it in its early days.
And it was a bastard child.
It was fraught with associations, with the occult.
It was the scariest thing in town.
It was the most desirable thing in town in a town where knowledge, power, you can imagine when people were briefed on the existence of the unit, what they wanted to do with it, wanted to use it for personal use.
Indeed, some of the senators on the Senate Intel Committee, the first thing they started doing when they were briefed on the operation was to actually try to use it for personal gain.
So it was a real strange animal and oversight committees could not handle it.
Because another subject I covered with Ingo last night that you and I have talked about is remote influencing or psychokinesis.
I don't know which word you want to use, remote influencing, I suppose.
But we got right down to it last night, and I pinned down Ingo and I said, Ingo, would it be Possible to burst a blood vein in the head of that Twerp over there in Iraq?
Now, I told you why in earlier shows why we did not do that.
Now, there were other governments that we could have paid to do it, but that history would not look kindly upon the United States had we paid other governments to go in and bomb Saddam Hussein when he had children all around him.
Okay, but even in successive operations where we've lobbed these cruise missiles in there, you know, to send a message after he's misbehaved in some manner or another, fired at our planes, lit them up with radar, whatever, in all the successive operations, we probably could have killed him if we'd wanted to.
But we have this thing, apparently, about Iraq falling apart, Iran taking over.
It may not be impossible, but nobody knows how to do it yet.
The earliest, most of the energies in this area historically, in the last 30 years, were done by my Soviet, erstwhile Soviet counterparts, Ivan Sokholov, the head of the KGB team of extra sensors.
They tried to, they started out with frogs and then they moved to rabbits.
They tried to kill frogs by stopping the frogs' hearts, that's the team's mind.
They moved to rabbits after that.
Indeed, the U.S. Secret Service came to our unit and asked, when they found out via intelligence leads that the Soviets were engaged in this type of research.
I talked to, after the Cold War was over, I talked to my counterpart, KGV, and they did have some success, but it was sporadic.
It was not consistent.
And in military operations, you better downwell be consistent.
Let me give you an example.
What I mean by consistency.
Everybody talks about chemical weapons, but if you're a combat commander, you would much rather use hot steel on the target than a chemical weapon.
Not because you don't admire the effectiveness of a chemical weapon to neutralize and kill, but because it's subject to the vicissitudes of wind and weather and heat and deterioration by ultraviolet radiation, that kind of thing.
Since you haven't dealt with it so much in training, you're loath to use it on an enemy in combat.
So that's what I mean about consistently training to fight over and over again.
You want something that you can depend on.
And the Soviets could not depend on their power to stop a heart or influence somebody remotely.
But during the period that he was doing his initial work, he apparently tried to say pretty much with verifiable targets.
You, on the other hand, have moved into looking into the future, something he admitted last night, by the way, is absolutely possible.
Looking into the future, future events on a massive scale.
And you've had a lot of luck with things like frogs.
I could sit here and detail all the things you've had hits on and a few misses over the years, but you've had a lot of hits.
With regard to the weather and the environment, you've had a great deal of success, but you've moved out of the very strict regimen of only going after immediately verifiable targets.
In the same way that the best analogy to use would be let's take an Air Force bomber pilot.
The bomber pilot trains over and over again to draw in training in Nevada and places like that to drop a bomb on the target or to mark a target and drop a bomb.
And in the old days, you didn't have a laser gun.
So you dropped a bomb using the gun sight.
And there was something, if it was a hot target and people were shooting at you, the Air Force had a saying, one pass, haul ass.
That's what you did.
And you prayed that that bomb would get to the target.
And then when you got back to base, you propped your feet up on the table and you had your cup of coffee.
Then the commander would say, here's what your mission did.
And based upon that feedback, you knew whether or not you had to correct your aim.
Well, remote feeling is the same way.
So that after you practice time after time after time after time again on training targets and you can validate the success rate, then you get a pretty good feel for how, in terms of confidence, for how close you are against unknowns because that's what intelligence is all about.
Listen, last night, Ingo, I asked Ingo about the scariest remote viewing he had ever done.
And he recounted his remote viewing session of the East German Prison Biological Weapons Facility Underground.
Ingo described a very experimental event.
I asked him how much transference there is.
In other words, he was seeing humans.
He was feeling humans suffering the most horrible experimentation and horrible sort of thing going on in East Germany that you could imagine in your worst nightmare.
And he talked about transference, and I asked him how much transference there was.
He may have changed the place for some, you know, he didn't want to save the place.
It doesn't matter.
The real point I was trying to get to was a transference question.
In other words, he found that almost unbearable.
Unbearable.
And if you remote view, for example, a murder or something horrible, Ed, do you find that to be true that the transference can be almost unbearable if it's that bad?
If you've got a person who is a coward, for instance, a person who scares easily, a person who's not used to being around a battle, they're not going to be effective remote viewing those things because, yes, you do get real close.
First of all, emotionally, you react emotionally before you ever are aware of what you're reacting to.
Your emotions get hit first.
I could say much more about that, technically speaking, in terms of psychokinesis, and perhaps I will later.
But yes, you become caught up in the emotionality of the target, and you need to be able to shunt that.
Now, we teach people in our business, technically remoping, how to do that correctly.
And Ingo, in fact, was the one who discovered the process of how to allow those emotions, one's own reaction to the target, which he called an aesthetic impact.
How to make sure that dissipates before you continue.
But he was a natural psychic, a natural sensitive.
So in a case like that, where he's surrounded by death and dying of a horrible type, it is very difficult for him to continue a session without breaking down.
All right, well, let me tell you just a brief story.
I worked for a year as a 911 dispatcher for Monterey County, responsible for picking up a 911 call, dispatching the proper force, police fire, whatever.
And, Ed, I've told you, I think, a couple of times, I have not gone beyond your first tape to embrace remote viewing.
And I think I now know why I haven't.
For the same reason that I had to leave 911 dispatching, because I couldn't handle it, Ed.
I took that home with me.
Sometimes children would die.
Police on my shift would get shot.
I would go home and I would be so stressed by it all that I'd be in tears.
And so I don't think I'm a good candidate to remote view in the spirit of what Ingo said about transference.
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Let me begin here, Ed, and you may not have any enlightenment for us tonight because it's something relatively new, although it's old as well.
Richard Hoagland preceded you tonight, and for a long time he has talked about a split between interagency split in NASA.
He's talked about things that are on Mars and the Moon that, by the way, Ingo certainly talked about last night.
And, you know, people have had healthy skepticism about it all.
But now we find out that in a speech given by the head of NASA, he acknowledges the close cooperation, help, whatever, of Mr. Inman from NSA and CIA, FAIM, and so forth and so on.
And it seems to me to be strange bedfellows and lends some credence to the argument Richard has that a lot is being hidden from us and that probes are being destroyed perhaps purposely.
You know, that there's information waiting for us on Mars that will change everything we believe about ourselves.
Well, there are individuals in this, there are individuals at JPL, as there have been, past 10 or 15 years, who have data that they believe supports the existence of what very, what was called in the old days, non-practical images.
That was a conservative word to say that something is there that is possibly not natural.
But NASA's mission, NASA's space exploration mission, is different than the SETI program.
Everybody's got their own little ballowy.
NASA's primary mission is to study the geophysics, the geology, the space exploration in general.
It's not extraterrestrial intelligence.
That's a different animal.
It's somebody else's job, the SETI program.
SETI, however, only listens.
So there really isn't a niche here that it can be effectively filled by anybody.
NASA would have to form a whole new group within itself in order to fund and man something that would explore the possibility that there's life, or was life in intelligent time on the surface of Mars.
That's the way it is, Art.
That's just the way it is.
That's just the way it is.
In the old days, and in the intelligence community, I ran into similar things.
Let's say that there are things on Mars.
And I have said that myself, using our work and military team's work, we support the idea that there are non-fractal structures.
There are structures, artificial structures on both Mars and the Moon.
Now, when there was an intelligence agency, I won't mention which one, that did an in-house look at itself as to why a particular government was crumbled without us being able to predict that.
And the bottom line was it crumbled because the intelligence community labored under, and I quote, the will not to believe, unquote.
And what that meant was we had all the indicators in front of us.
This government was coming down from the inside out.
We were supporting a government, the United States was, our State Department, was supporting a president in a foreign country that was ready to fall.
And we just didn't want to believe that that was the case, that our boy was going down.
And this is a similar situation in any bureaucracy.
Bureaucracies are their own worst enemies many times.
The military team, what we did on the military team and what we've been doing in SciTech since 89, was looking at Mars and the Moon, including INGO.
We put together our own studies.
Some of those are out and about, our conclusions about what is out there.
Ironically, this is kind of a funny anecdotal story.
I offered in 1990 to assist Richard Holdman to put together a remote viewing survey of Sidonia crater at a dirt cheap contract pricing.
He held that up in front of a UN subcommittee and said, this BITEC is a CIA front organization trying to move in on me.
Which, you know, I thought, well, this is crazy.
And a year later, Richard Hogeland studied, found out all about remote viewing, and found out that Ingo Swan was the father of remote viewing, visited him in New York.
Ingo Swan turns to Richard C. Hogeland and says, well, I don't do things like this, but there's a group of my students who put together a company that does this professionally and they're really good.
Listen, I want to talk about some incredible things that have occurred in the Antarctic.
My God, we have had two gigantic, I mean, just gigantic icebergs break from the Ross ice shelf, not Larson B, but the Ross ice shelf.
Very worrisome.
Just break off, and they're sort of sitting there bobbing and bumping up against each other right now, but they will inevitably take off, block shipping.
Now, how big?
One of these is 80 miles by 12 miles.
The larger one is 183 miles by 23 miles, clearly seen by satellite.
The big one, for example, it was said, Has more fresh water in it, Ed, than all of the annual rainfall for the entire world's land mass for a year.
Now, that's a lot of fresh water.
That's a lot of fresh water.
And here comes a second iceberg.
The rough ice shelf seems to be breaking apart, Ed.
Well, our environment is collapsing, you know, on certain terms, as I've mentioned before.
Let me give you a little perspective on what I do in terms of living and my research.
You know that we call, in technical remote viewing, we call this database that we go to the matrix.
The term that was coined by Ingo Swan himself.
Think of the matrix as a great big library, the Akashic Records, the collective unconscious.
It doesn't matter what name you give it.
It's the storage center, the sea of all patterns of information, all knowledge.
The way that you and I exist as a pattern of information.
The way that the planet exists through time as a pattern of information.
All things, all knowledge.
So as a professional, in my job, I'm in this library.
I have all this knowledge available to me.
Now, I may be able to pick up a book off of a shelf and not understand it because it's beyond my ken.
Let's say I'm dealing with something mundane like particle physics.
Well, I could go to another book and look at the social, economic, and political ramifications of particle physics in the future and understand that, even though I don't understand the mechanics of particle physics, right?
But sure, all that knowledge is there.
So a question becomes, what in the hell to look at?
What's important?
And over the last almost 20 years of this work, that question itself becomes important.
What in terms of epistemology, science and knowledge?
What knowledge does one want?
What is important?
So what I began doing a number of years ago was this library is not just a static piece of knowledge base.
It isn't that.
It is interactive and in some cases proactive.
It's as if the librarian in this library was there and could be not only a librarian to pull a book off the shelf for you, but could teach you, to ask the right questions.
It's a living, dynamic, interactive, and proactive thing.
So what I have done using various search terms, submitting various library cards, if you will, over and over again, with different requests in different ways, taking different tasks to explore, is to ask the librarian, using our own technical remote viewing search terms, ask the librarian what questions are important to ask for myself and for humankind right now.
Not sometime in the distant future, but right now.
And when those questions are asked, all of them result in the same thing.
The sun, our sun.
And so the study, the remote technology remote doing study of the sun has become extremely important.
And what I've learned and what I've been stating is that the sun and Project Star, the Sunburst, Project former Project Sunburst, we determined that the Sun is going to do something very radical.
Five today, probably to celebrate your announcement.
Three yesterday.
This is some extraordinary activity and it's picking up.
But what we know, what we can describe in terms of predictive intelligence, remember intelligence, and that's where we have, that's the genesis of remote intelligence, as an intelligence tool.
Intelligence has to be predictive to be useful.
You know, who wants, doesn't talk about history.
So what I'm describing now is a very large flare that's going to come off the sun.
It's going to come off the sun and it's going to collapse the Earth's magnetic shield.
And it will essentially cook us, parboil us for about six or seven days.
But the most important thing I have to say, particularly now, since we are not going to be here together in this venue again, the most important thing that I want to leave you with is this.
Earth's ozone layer is not going to repair itself.
It is decaying at a rate now that's beyond the threshold for self-repair.
This ozone layer that took 2.5 billion years to establish on Earth is not going to repair itself in 50 years, no matter what anybody says about discontinuing the use of CFEs and all those catalysts that destroy the ozone layer.
It's coming down.
And that is the most serious information that the librarian in this grand library in the sky is pointing out to mankind.
Anybody that's trained in technical remote curing, tens of thousands of people now, turn your attention to the most important, the most valuable information, the most valuable message that mankind needs to know, you'll come up with the same thing.
And that is destruction of Earth's ozone layer.
And that is more serious than anything we can deal with, including nuclear war.
The only marker that I have in terms of time is that when we attempted to determine whether Y2K, what the results of the so-called Y2K event would be, we went two years back trying to, and we said, hey, it's a non-event.
I'm notified that some people are having, it may be that I'm getting so much email that my email account has clogged up.
If that's the case, you can continue to try and email me at, as I mentioned a little while ago, either one of two accounts, a MindSpring, which may be sprung because of the number of messages, or, of course, artbell at kol.com as well.
So we'll just leave it at that and see if it all repairs itself after it has a chance to catch its breath.
It was just something that the company looked at years ago, the next volcanic eruption in North America.
That is actually not that easy a target.
We believe it's a Mammoth mountain area.
But the reason it's difficult to do is because when you sketch the area that is the next eruption, it looks so similar to Mount Bachelor and other areas like that on the West Coast.
We can pretty easily determine that we're in a West Coast area because it's topography and the species of trees and flora and fauna that are there.
But to actually compare it to a map overlay, that takes a while.
It takes a lot of sketching, a lot of work, a lot of different perspectives.
You have to know what you're doing in terms of a geometry of the target.
And so it took us a while to determine that it was Mammoth Lake.
The extent of the eruption, it doesn't look like it's going to be that heavy.
The gardeners, who planted the original seed, planted it not in, they planted it in us.
And whatever the proto-human was, whatever that proto-human was in the Rift Valley area around Olduvai Gorge, where the leakies worked, whatever that proto-human was, that was changed.
It was changed because an extraterrestrial race manipulated the DNA in that species and changed it so that it transformed into what we are today, modern-day Homo sapiens.
So here we are, our SETI program is listening into outer space and not hearing anything.
And all this time, the answer is in inner space.
We should be listening to the signals from inner space because there's patterns in our DNA that haven't been discovered yet.
And when they are, very interesting things will happen.
And that's where my work is centered these days.
The Earth is a garden.
There are other garden worlds.
Just because we're destroying this one, that doesn't mean there aren't many other worlds like it.
The only thing that leaves these plants, these garden worlds, are souls.
You know, I've talked earlier tonight about my career.
What about yours, Ed?
I'd like to get kind of a bead on where you're going from here, what you see, what lies ahead for Ed Dames, what projects, I certainly know that you're on to the medical aspect of AIDS and cancer, a worthy endeavor indeed.
Well, this tool that our tax dollars went to developing, this remote viewing tool, it is a powerful tool.
And I would like to apply it towards specifically cancer and AIDS.
Now, we've looked over the years quietly, the military team days, we looked at things like leukemias and Lou Garrett's disease.
We've studied them.
We didn't tell the public what we were doing even in the early days of SciTech because we didn't want to get people's hopes up, even when we were successful, and we were in numerous cases.
But in those days, I was not interested that much in medicine.
You and I have been doing interviews over the years now, long enough that I've seen you morph yourself in terms of your own interests have become very spiritual compared to our very early interviews.
The message has not wavered.
You've always said the same thing about what will occur, what's coming.
But your approach to it has become far more spiritual in the last, oh, I don't know, couple of years, I think, Ed.
I wanted to go toe-to-toe with Father Malachi Martin on this idea of remote viewing and whether or not it was good or evil or those kinds of things.
And what I mentioned was that you don't take your idea of, you don't take your, your ethics don't drop away when remote view.
What needed to drop away is your ego.
Now, your ego may pop back after the session's over, but it better not be in that remote viewing session, or otherwise it's going to destroy your data tremendously.
But how do you consciously, in a session, take an ego that really does still exist in the world, in the everyday world, and go into a remote viewing session and squish it?
Well, what I would like to do at risk, and I'm going to instruct my audience now, I do want to take some calls, but with regard to the announcement I made in the second hour of the program, I do not want to talk about that.
I want to take questions for Ed Dame.
So if you have questions for Ed, and only if you have questions for Ed, should you be dialing right now?
And of course, all the lines have been going readily all night long.
I'm going to take a chance and dip in, but I want the subject to be what it is, remote viewing.
So here we go.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
Turn your radio off, please.
Thank you.
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Yes, I would like to know if Major Dames, I don't know how religious he is, but the Bible says that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
They are heavens, but God created the heaven and the earth.
And the scripture says that this heaven and earth shall pass away in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, and we shall be caught up with him in the midair.
And I would like to know what's your thought on that.
Well, you will find it one of the more difficult things you've ever tackled.
You'll sit down and you'll decide what kind of book you want to write and whether you want to be bluntly honest about it.
And then if that's what you do and you sit down and you write a really bluntly honest book, you will find it an extremely painful process, probably akin to a full-life review upon passage from this world.
And I had often entertained the thought that maybe it is because of this magnetic effect, because of the magnetite in our bodies, that we may become disoriented by a big pulse, an electromagnetic pulse from the sun.
And I've also read a lot of the works by Carlos Castaneda.
And I was wondering if you were also familiar with his books, because a lot of the things that are in his works sound very familiar with what you and other remote viewers are saying about the nature of perception and the soul and intent and will and how to manage it.
There were three young men in Memphis, Tennessee that were arrested for three murders of three seven or eight-year-old boys.
And they had a documentary on HBO about it about four years ago.
And they redid a documentary this month.
And there was so many holes in the evidence that it just looked, I mean, I don't know how these guys got convicted.
And there's all kinds of websites and everything out there for them.
And I was wondering if, you know, if Ed was at all familiar with it, would you ever consider remote viewing that incident to see if those guys really did do it?
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised you didn't ask this question yourself, but it must have flipped by you.
Back when they arrested the UNA bomber, Mr. Dames said that they tried remote viewing it and that they couldn't target on one person because there seemed to be other people involved.
Yeah, I had a question concerning, like, excuse me, a little nervous.
What the question is, is that are there certain personality types or type of people that do this remote viewing better, or is it pretty much anyone that wants to learn the technique?
People have natural ability if they learn the very rigorous structure well.
They do exceedingly well.
They can produce in this way.
They produce about twice as much material, descriptive information about a target in a given amount of time as someone like me, for instance, who is not naturally psychic, but just very good in terms of the skill.
But if they don't rein in their ego, or if they start bending the rules, bending the rigor, then they can slide back into the 60% from the 90% to the 60%ile in terms of accuracy of information.
So the rigor has to be there.
And if you're naturally talented, that's good too.
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