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art bell
AMA 40, KSNB North Las Vegas, the Valley's number one award-winning and accurate news, weather and traffic right now.
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PBS News, I'm Lou Miliano live in Times Square where they've just counted down the start of yet another new year, this time for Argentina and a rainforest adventure.
One and a half million here doing this for every time zone, every hour.
Everyone like Josh Quadobaum with the same reason for being here.
Colorado, and this is a place to be.
This is the only place to be in the United States.
They've been here since dawn in many values states until the last time zone rings in the new year with the high point just two hours away when the year 2000 arrives here in Times Square.
Now to the festivities on the mall in Washington and CBS News correspondent Peter Mayer.
It is party time year two.
Tens of thousands of people crank the majestic reflecting pool.
With less than two hours until 2000, you can almost feel the sense of collective anticipation in this crowd.
The Clintons and top administration officials and congressional leaders will be here for a gala show and a fireworks display that will turn the Washington Monument into a 550-foot-tall sparkler.
Now for the latest on computer readiness from your CBS News correspondent Howard Ehrenstein at the Y2K desk in Washington.
The news is good from Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater.
Airports across the nation are not reporting any significant incidences.
Energy Secretary Bill Richardson says Russia's 29 nuclear power plants passed the Y2K test.
Fortunately, also, Ukraine's power plants have successfully rolled over, and we've been concerned about those.
But Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering warns...
Monday should be a key day here in the United States.
I'm Howard Arnstein, live at the CBS News Y2K desk.
With more now, here's Sam Litzinger.
art bell
Sounds like a lot of folks want to keep their feet firmly on the ground this holiday weekend.
Northwest Airlines has joined other major carriers in canceling some scheduled flights.
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Why?
art bell
Not enough demand and a shortage of flight crews that want to work.
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They rocked in the new year in Rio de Janeiro with fireworks.
Millions of people dressed in white danced under an exploding sky.
art bell
Revelers sent flowers and floating candles into the Atlantic Ocean as offerings to a goddess of the sea who zaunted across Brazil on New Year's Eve.
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Police in the Kansas City suburb of Oletha say two women walked into a bank and have taken as many as six people hostage.
We believe the hostage takers are two females, possibly in their 20s.
gordon michael scallion
And right now, at least one of them is armed that we know of.
art bell
The FBI's Jeff Lonzer says the suspects aren't going to get away, but they're both young and maybe they don't know that.
No reports anyone's been hurt.
Russia's acting president says democracy is still alive and well in his country despite the surprise resignation of President Boris Yeltsin.
Vladimir Putin says he'll protect freedom of speech, religion, and the press.
On Wall Street, the Dow Jones Industrials closed up just over 44 points in a short trading day.
This is CBS News.
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What will you be doing on December 31st?
I'm not saying where I'll be, but I know I'll be drinking La Grandme from Champagne Beufrikou.
art bell
Nearly 200 years ago, Madame Pico saw.
In Buenos Aires, they've just begun celebrating.
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Reporter Don Makinson is in the center of things there.
Hello, I'm standing on top of a 16-story high rise in the geographic center of Buenos Aires.
Very difficult to hear because fireworks are going off all around me.
This is a city that gave up on one central party and instead dispersed parties all over the city for fear of rioting.
3,000 police are all over the city in case of any difficulties.
But in the meantime, parties have started up everywhere.
And instead of one central fireworks display, there are hundreds of fireworks displays going off all around me.
This afternoon in Buenos Aires, the big fear was that a power shortage would take place shortly after midnight.
So we are told that there are no candles left in this city.
Reporter Don Makinson, I'm Sam Litzinger, CBS News.
I'm Dean DeVoer with the exclusive AnkuWeather forecast, partly to mostly cloudy overnight with the low 37.
For New Year's Day, it won't be as mild with times of clouds and sunshine, the high 59.
art bell
Patchy clouds Saturday night, the low 35.
unidentified
Sunday breezy with clouds and some sunshine, the high 55.
With AnkuWeather, I'm Dean DeVoer on the Talk Station AM840KXNT.
Hi, I'm Tommy Lasorda.
In baseball, you get three strikes.
In baseball, you get three strikes.
art bell
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you good evening, or yes, still, in some cases, good morning, even at this hour, across many, many time zones commercially from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Island chain eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, plural, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole and worldwide on the internet.
This is Coast to Coast AM and I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
Well, good evening, most of you.
art bell
How's it going where you are?
The news across the world so far is pretty good.
Really good, actually.
The headline on the Associated Press is Y2K bug nibbles but doesn't bite.
The anticipated first bite from the Y2K bug was barely felt Saturday as computers around the world silently made the transition from 1999 to 2000.
I wonder if they expected screams.
The lights stayed on in Asia, and Eastern Russia's nuclear plants ran without a hitch.
In Japan, the failure of a computer linked to a nuclear plant monitoring device was not considered serious enough to shut the plant down.
They will assess it later.
Millions are staying home and marking it online.
Other millions are in Times Square and capitals around the world.
And I think that the most spectacular, by far, the most spectacular light show was in George Paris.
The Eiffel Tower really went up like a Roman candle.
That was something to see, wasn't it?
So, so far, so good.
One quick warning, though.
Do not declare, based on what you've seen from the rest of the world so far, that Y2K is a complete non-event.
We're not going to know that until we get back to work first of the week or so, until the world really goes back to work, and then you'll know more than you know now.
The only event that I was really concerned about tonight and remain concerned about, by the way, whether it's by human hand or computer glitch, is the power.
And we'll see.
As long as we get through the night with power, I think we're going to be okay throughout the weekend.
And then when the business week begins, well, we'll see.
One other little item, in the middle of the show last night, a real shocker, Boris Yeltsin has resigned, just boom, like that.
Resigned.
Remarkable, incredible, unbelievable.
He just called it quits.
As of right now, I'm done.
Handed power over to somebody who's probably much more of a hardliner than he is.
And there has been very bad.
In fact, I really haven't heard a Washington reaction.
I wonder if any of you have yet.
I'm kind of waiting to see what Washington says about it, and I'm not even sure they knew about it.
Well, coming up in a moment is what I believe is our nation's premier intuitive.
His name is Gordon Michael Scallion.
He comes to us tonight, despite the fact that he has the flu.
So many out there have the flu tonight.
Gordon has it.
But he's going to be here nevertheless.
Lots and lots to talk about, so all of that lies directly ahead.
In three hours, when Gordon and I have, and all of you have finished, we will then open the lines and we'll do all sorts of various things and monitor what's going on out there.
At any rate, if you're here, welcome to a very, very early edition of what is normally an all-night radio program.
Well, it still is tonight, because we're starting a little early.
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It's hooked up by radio to the atomic clock in Boulder, Colorado.
And they just got a brand new atomic clock in Boulder, Colorado.
You don't even know it's communicating, but this clock electronically communicates with Boulder and it sets itself.
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The End All right, just about every network television program that was doing its big New Year's event tonight, as we are, invited Gordon Michael Scallion to be on because he is indeed probably our premier intuitive.
Gordon was a businessman one day addressing at a very important business conference, other businessmen about a plan, and his voice went away.
And when I say went away, I mean mid-word, it stopped.
They took him to the hospital where he had an experience that we have described previously on this program.
Can only be described as a paranormal experience of some sort.
Went through years of intuitive growth, I guess you would say, began by actually diagnosing people who had various diseases, telling them what to do, trying to grapple and understand this power he had, and then began looking at the larger picture.
What's going on around the world?
What will go around the world?
He sees things, as we have discussed in the past, much like you would imagine three television TV screens in front of you.
One of them appearing more contrasty, bright, with more vivid color than the others.
And this one would appear to have the events most likely, not locked in stone, but most likely to occur.
And he has honored us by being here on New Year's Eve, all the way from the East Coast, in the middle of the flu.
Gordon, welcome to the program.
gordon michael scallion
Happy New Year, Arch.
art bell
I hope I got that little first part right.
Happy New Year to you too.
gordon michael scallion
Yes, you did.
art bell
So we've got, no doubt, a lot to talk about.
Here it is, almost 2,000.
It really is, it's got a feel about it.
You know, it feels like something's coming, and of course, something always is coming.
And that's why we have you here tonight to tell us what might be coming.
And I don't know where you want to begin.
I know that you know a lot of stuff about Egypt and some discoveries that may be made there here shortly.
Is that right?
gordon michael scallion
Egypt is probably the one area that I have the most information on.
That and lost civilization.
art bell
Did you know they were going to bring a helicopter in and drop a new gold capstone on the Great Pyramid?
And at the last minute, virtually, they ruled against it, saying, well, it might harm the pyramid or something or another.
But they would not let Dr. Hawass fly in the helicopter with a gold capstone, so that did not get done.
gordon michael scallion
I understood two or three weeks ago, one of my connections in Egypt informed me that they were not going to be doing it.
And it had more to do with it wasn't just that they thought that it would damage the pyramid.
There's another whole range of reasons why that isn't being done.
There's been some amazing discoveries there.
I mean, it's kind of like...
art bell
There have been.
In other words, discoveries that we have.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, we know about some of the discoveries.
Fox had a show on this year.
art bell
Right.
gordon michael scallion
And they showed a few scenes of it, a few clips of it.
That's only the beginning of it.
In my book, I described that somewhere around 95, they would find some hidden chambers beneath the Sphinx, and then that would lead to further discoveries.
And eventually, those discoveries would come to light probably in the year 2000 or 2001.
And so we're now in that window, that cycle, where these discoveries are going to come out.
And it's going to change the world.
I guess the only way I can describe it would be like, you know, when they released the stealth fighter, the 117, and they rolled it out and let the film crews take pictures of it, everybody was amazed.
They said, you know, is this wonderful?
art bell
I remember.
gordon michael scallion
But it had been flying for a decade.
You know, we only get the information after the technology is pretty much gone by.
art bell
Much later, yeah.
gordon michael scallion
Now, there's other things that are flying.
I did a paper on the craft that I believe is flying now, the Aurora.
And so, you know, when that finally becomes knowledge, there'll be something else.
It's the same thing with archaeology.
Lots of times when discoveries are made, there's a time period before it's released because there's two major factors in releasing information.
One is does it violate any kind of political agenda?
And two, does it violate or conflict with any kind of religious structure?
And both of these are at play in Egypt.
art bell
Or even archaeological paradigm.
You're absolutely right.
And to punctuate what you just said, I asked Dr. Hawass when I was at Giza, if he made a really major discovery, would we know about it?
Oh, yes, he said.
Right away?
Oh, no, he said.
He admitted that straight out.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
Let me tell you what I believe they've discovered.
And more importantly, why.
I think we have to back up just a little bit.
You know, I've devoted a significant portion of my book to it, so I'll try to just encapsulate it so that we can do it quickly here.
Okay.
The pyramid itself is believed to be some 4,000 years old.
In reality, according to my information, and others such as Edgar Casey and the late Paul Solomon, we've all kind of targeted it within a few years of each other as a date.
And that date puts us back 12,500 years ago.
So right after that, we're in conflict with just about everything that we know as far as age of people.
You know, at that time, supposedly we were still in loin clubs.
We didn't have any organized systems.
We didn't have a language.
But now we're finding as we're making more and more discoveries because of technology, we're finding that there was 10,000 years ago societies.
And we're finding a lot of them in Africa, in the Aegean region, here in the United States.
We've got archaeological sites that I have been to that have been dated to 4,000, 5, and 6, and 7,000 years.
art bell
You are so right.
gordon michael scallion
So that particular structure is presented, if you, you know, I was fortunate enough to go to Egypt.
I was very fortunate enough to spend three days, literally by myself, inside of that Great Pyramid.
I was able to do a lot of inner work.
I wasn't part of a group.
It just happened to work out.
art bell
Three days?
gordon michael scallion
I stayed, there's a hotel right across the street from there.
art bell
That's right.
Something most people don't know because they never pan the camera around there.
unidentified
Yeah.
gordon michael scallion
And I went down and I wanted to get a ticket to go in, you know, like normal people would go in.
And this gentleman comes over to me, definitely an Egyptian, and looks at me and hands me this ticket.
I think he is looking for a donation because everybody's looking for money for that country.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
Did you ride a camel?
gordon michael scallion
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
Those guys are really into money, and they won't let you off the camel until you pay them.
gordon michael scallion
Absolutely.
Anyways, he said to me, do you want to go in, he says, you want to go inside the pyramid, don't you?
And I said, yes.
I said, where do I get the pyramid?
And I looked at it, and the card was a pass.
And I said, oh, he's selling passes.
And so I looked at him, and I had a good feel about it, and I said, how much?
And he said, nothing.
He says, come with me.
And we literally walked in, and as it turns out, he was one of the guards there.
He wasn't really a guide, he was like a guard.
And he stopped everybody and let me go into the chambers I wanted to go into.
And I stayed in the king's chamber for about an hour.
And then I came back out, and I was really confused about all this, because in my mind, I'm thinking, what a bill I'm going to get when I leave here for this kind of service.
art bell
I thought the meter was running.
gordon michael scallion
And then the strangest thing happened.
He put his hand on my shoulder, and he says, I remember you when we built this.
unidentified
Oh.
gordon michael scallion
And I had these chills up and down my spine, and I left.
And so the next day I come back, and I don't see him, so I go over and I buy a ticket because I want to go back.
unidentified
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
So I go up inside, and there he is.
And he says, come with me.
He says, where do you want to go?
And I said, I want to spend some time in the Queen's Chamber.
And once again, he stopped, and I spent about an hour there.
art bell
Gordon, they must have known who you were.
gordon michael scallion
I don't think so.
You know, I've had some very phenomenal experiences.
Not a lot of them.
Losing my voice was one of them.
Having other kind of out-of-body experiences was...
And I had a dream one night and said, tomorrow morning, book a ticket.
And in the dream, he gave me the flight number and everything.
art bell
Really?
gordon michael scallion
So I called my travel agent and I said, is there a flight so-and-so?
And he said, yes, it is.
Do you want us to book it?
And I said, yeah.
And so, you know, got my passport and I was gone.
Literally.
I mean, we literally left in 24 hours.
art bell
Well, Dr. Owas rules that area with an iron hand.
And for somebody to do what they did for you would be just incredible.
gordon michael scallion
I don't know.
There were lines.
When I came back down the descending passageway, there were lines there waiting to get in.
I mean, they didn't close the pyramid for me by any means.
They just, whatever room I was into, he simply allowed me to be in that room.
But while I was in there, you know, all the imagery of the purpose of that structure, now they were, you know, current Egyptology says that they are tombs.
And as you know, anything that's other than a certain date that they have placed on it and whose tomb it was, there's no room.
I mean, there's no room for any form of mysticism or occultism at all with Egyptian authorities.
But in my particular case, when I was there, it was really clear what it was.
And the structure was built as a giant observatory.
art bell
Observatory.
All right, hold it right there, Gordon.
As a giant observatory.
Now, where have I heard that before?
Echoes of guests past.
A giant observatory.
Something with which to observe the stars.
Something to launch spirits.
Not a burial ground, indeed.
I'm Art Bell.
The guest is Gordon Michael Scallion, and we're here early on New Year's Eve as the New Year races toward the Atlantic coast.
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New Year's Eve AMA 40, KXNT.
art bell
KXNT's Alan Stock here for the TV Guardian.
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As a parent, you're no doubt concerned about...
The sight of the touch or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an eye speak in the grass.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie the man, hear the grass sing, how the holy sings in an angry song, and the eternal love.
To lie the man, hear the man, hear the grass sing, how the holy sings in an angry song, and the eternal love.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
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art bell
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
art bell
Doing an all-night marathon, actually, beginning now through 3 a.m. Pacific time.
It'll be an eight-hour program.
Three hours with Gordon Michaels Gallion, who's here right now.
We'll get back to the pyramids in just a moment.
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The End I am now the CEO for BuyItNow.com.
art bell
Back to New Hampshire and Gordon Michael Scallion.
Gordon, you said, an observatory.
gordon michael scallion
It was constructed for multiple purposes, but its primary function was that it was to be a method of combining engineering and technology and spirituality,
seeing it all as one, so that in its shape, its measurements, its hallways, every element of it reflected a scientific principle or a measurement right down to a time capsule of prophecies for the future, religious prophecies for the future in the history of man.
And it carried itself from the time it was constructed all the way through to the year 1998.
And that's where the timeline of the prophecies that are contained in there stop.
art bell
If it was originally a high technological device of some sort, as well as a spiritual device of some sort or center of some sort, then that means there was a civilization that had evolved indeed past our present point.
gordon michael scallion
Let's say that we went the electrical route here in this country.
If we had gone, let's say, one of the technologies that Nikola Tesla had conceived, then our technology would have gone in a different direction.
We would have achieved very similar things, just as we can use oil or we can use coal or nuclear.
There are different ways of producing electricity.
So in this particular case, they went a different route technologically.
Let me just read, I'll read you one paragraph from my book, which I think will answer that question.
art bell
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
This is from page 260 in Notes in the Cosmos.
The question that I had asked my dream guide was, who built the Great Pyramid?
And the response was, Atlanteans in conjunction with Egyptians and Darians.
And Darians were a group of people that occupied portions of Russia and China.
And they had moved into that land somewhere around 12,600 years ago.
Egyptians were already there as a culture.
And the Atlanteans began coming into that land because their own lands were destroyed slowly by earth changes.
And so there had already been some migrations into Egypt.
And one of their prime spiritual leaders actually left Atlantis, or Pisidia specifically, which was one of the islands.
And he came to Egypt and acted as the engineer for the site.
And his name was Hermes.
And Ra was one of the Darians.
And then there were the Egyptians.
And so the combination of labor and engineering and technology came together to create this monument.
The monument took a little less than 100 years to construct.
And then my next question was, how does this machine work?
The machine's purpose as constructed was multiple in design.
Bending time was its focus.
art bell
Bending time.
gordon michael scallion
So as to provide a process for initiation.
However, the manner in which this was accomplished provided other benefits for its people.
These varied from increased crop yield, weather control, the form of electrical power, and a learning institute for the study of the heavens, astronomy, astrology, and cosmic forces, mathematics, chemistry, interworld dimensions, and the seven levels of initiation.
All of these were part of its design.
So it would be kind of like Palomar in one sense.
And in doing that, these people were, if we were to look at them with our eyes today, they would almost seem to be blinking off and on.
In my visions, when I've looked back at that time period, they're not as dense physically in matter.
They're somewhat lighter.
The Atlanteans that I see on that site look very similar to Native American Indians.
It's the only way I can describe them.
A little taller, perhaps, and lighter colored hair, kind of a blue-gray eyes, and a little taller, but very similar feature-wise to Native Americans.
art bell
What destroyed Atlantis?
You said earth changes.
I mean, did it virtually sink beneath the sea?
gordon michael scallion
What happened?
They went through several levels of changes.
The time period of its sinking is, from my dream voyages and my inner work, closely resembles what Plato says in his book, The Critias, where he talks about the sinking of Atlantis in a day.
What I did, I did a lot of work in trying to figure out exactly where it was.
Originally, it was a very large landmass that kind of straddled the Americas on the west, Africa on the east, extending, but the Canaries, and then moving all the way up into where the Med would be.
art bell
That's a lot of land.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, so it was a very large landmass.
In fact, at one time, the lowlands of Atlantis were parts of the Florida Straits, parts of New England, parts of Virginia.
And then the Mississippi kind of divided the United States.
There was a large inland sea there at one time.
Then Atlantis went through several destructions.
The first two destructions were caused by the technology they were using.
This was some 30,000 years ago when they literally used the technology they had developed in such a way as it released or it ignited large gas pockets underneath the plate that supported the whole little continent, and that blew it apart.
art bell
You know, Gordon, there are stories that Tesla himself actually caused earthquakes.
It was able to cause earthquakes.
Now, you never, it's hard to separate myth from fact when you research Tesla, but it is said, and there are witnesses to the fact that he did that, and that's the same energy you're talking about, isn't it?
gordon michael scallion
It is.
And he discovered the same key that they used to build the pyramids, that was used in a place in Florida called Coral Castle.
art bell
That's right.
gordon michael scallion
That same technology.
art bell
That man knew it then.
gordon michael scallion
What that?
art bell
The man at the Coral Castle knew and utilized the same technology.
unidentified
Yeah.
gordon michael scallion
And he was a spindly man.
Ed was all of 95 pounds, and yet he constructed 80, 120 ton structures, you know, by himself.
But he discovered that the same secret, the same technology, and Tesla did too.
And I have no doubt that Tesla knew exactly how the energy system of the Earth worked.
And unfortunately, he didn't figure out how to put a meter on it to charge.
He saw it as a gift to humanity.
Westenhaus, who was backing him, needed some way of making it a profitable.
And that's really what the division was.
That's where his technology stopped.
art bell
In other words, if we can't get a meter on it, we don't want it.
gordon michael scallion
Right.
Technology has been, you know, my sources tell me that technology has been rediscovered and it's been in use now for 30, 40 years.
art bell
Again, Dr. Hawass at the pyramids, when you ask him about Atlantis, he goes, oh, baloney, who built the pyramids?
Well, the Egyptian built pyramids, and he will demonstrate how that was done.
But then, when you get to the point where you ask him, Well, then, Doctor, how did they actually build the pyramids?
And he just goes silent and he goes, Ah, but art, that is the great mystery, isn't it?
We have no idea how they did it.
gordon michael scallion
Well, he is a politician.
unidentified
Yes.
gordon michael scallion
And I have had conversations with him, and he loves his country, and he loves what he does.
And there is a very strong religious control over what he does.
But regardless of that, this is all going to be coming out in the year 2000.
We're going to see short pieces of it because the entrance that they found on the Sphinx, and when they showed it on television, all you saw was nothing.
Everything was removed.
It was part of a statophicus there.
art bell
That's right.
gordon michael scallion
But there was nothing there.
art bell
Everything else had already been taken out.
gordon michael scallion
Everything had been taken out.
art bell
I believe that too.
gordon michael scallion
And what happens is that that in itself is not going to change history too much, but there's corridors.
And in my book, I describe what happens when they will enter it.
I said somewhere between 95 and 97, they'll enter under the Sphinx.
When they do get there, what they will discover is passageways.
And these passageways are crucial because the passageways lead to pyramids, other pyramids buried deep in that plateau.
art bell
Below the ground?
Other pyramids?
gordon michael scallion
Below the ground.
Several hundred feet below the ground.
And so while the Great Pyramid is this enigma, you know, I have a lot of technical background.
art bell
I know you do.
gordon michael scallion
And so, you know, when I look at things I look at from an engineering point of view to see how...
It's just a physical impossibility.
art bell
It is.
The Japanese tried it.
I mean, some of the best have tried it.
They can't do it.
Yeah.
No, we know that.
That's true.
You said, you intrigued me to bend time.
Toward what end?
Why were they doing that?
gordon michael scallion
It was a time of a spiritual high.
Atlantis was being destroyed.
The last time it was destroyed, it was destroyed because the plate that supported the last remaining island, and that island would have been perhaps the size of, maybe twice the size of Texas.
And it was on kind of a shelf.
And there was an upheaval in the earth that caused it to be a huge sinkhole.
art bell
They saw this coming.
gordon michael scallion
They knew it was coming.
They didn't know when, but they knew it was coming.
And migrations had already started going out to other lands.
And Spain was one of the areas they went to.
The Yucatan was another area they went to.
The United States was another area they went to.
And Egypt was another area.
So migrations, slow migrations that started.
But the people who left were people who wanted to have a different lifestyle.
Atlantis had become very corrupt.
And there was two factions there.
There was those who were following a spiritual path and the other were following a material world.
Not too much different than what we find today.
And so they wanted to construct this temple of initiation where individuals could come and, through training, learn how to develop their, what we would call today, our higher intuitive skills.
The device itself would enable communications with other worlds, not only other physical worlds, such as in the Cirrus Sun system or the Pleiades, but other worlds in the Earth.
And so an initiate would be one who perfected these seven levels of consciousness.
And so there was various schools of training, various temples of training, and then when you were ready, you would go with one of the priests and you would enter into this chamber.
And the chamber was not in the king's chamber or the queen's chamber.
Those were the operating rooms where the controls were functions and the ascending and descending passageways in the grand hall.
All of those were part of the machinery that was in there.
But beneath the great pyramid were the control rooms for the operators.
And when the machine functioned, and this would function at certain key times, as recorded in the Queen's Chamber, the Queen's Chamber has a niche in the wall which they had never been able to figure out what it's all about.
It's carved into the wall and it looks like it was sawed into it.
But it's one of those enigmas.
What was this for?
What it was for was to indicate the times when communications was possible.
So the machine was charged with a gas and the gas would fill these chambers.
The instrument in the Grand Hall would function and tune itself.
And it would then connect somebody down below underneath the pyramid.
And if you were able to achieve the right vibration, right meditative state, you would be able to enter in this time stream.
And in the time stream, you would be able to know who you really were, who you were in the past life, get glimpses of the future.
So that was one mode of this.
There were several other modes that it was used for as well.
One of those was what Carl Jung calls the collective consciousness, the universal mind.
art bell
Your impression, though, is that all of this was created by beings, I guess the word is indigenous to Earth, without outside help, or was there outside help?
gordon michael scallion
The outside help that came came before the technology which was being able to facet crystals in such a fashion and to focus it in such a fashion and align it in such a way that it would create incredible amounts of energy.
Now, that was given to them some 35,000 years ago by visitors who came from the Pleiades.
So, you know, this reads like a UFO science fiction novel, but I just pass the information through as I receive it, and in time eventually will, you know, will lead to whether there's any fact to this.
But many of the things that I received from those sessions have proven out so far.
As more and more discoveries are coming to the surface, we begin to see it, you know.
art bell
So then are you suggesting, apparently, that what they either have already found and haven't told us about, or will find shortly, will be these control rooms?
gordon michael scallion
I don't believe they're into the control rooms yet.
I believe where they are, however, is into the chambers of science and mathematics and history.
I believe they have gained access to those.
unidentified
So in those hallways, those hallways lead to these archives.
gordon michael scallion
It's no different than what we're doing right now.
We're burying time capsules all over the planet.
art bell
Yes, we are.
gordon michael scallion
And so imagine a civilization that is advanced, knows that there's great changes coming to the world, and that because they are a spiritually based people, they want to leave something that's going to survive thousands of years so that the people who come later,
if they're intelligent enough to understand and read the messages, can gain from it.
And so the construction was designed for that.
And in these rooms, they put the history of their world, where they came from, archaeological items, various placemaps, if you will, showing kind of recipes.
These are in forms of tablets.
I counted 32 in one room.
Kind of look like a gold foil with an emerald cast to it.
And they're all in symbolic form, like hieroglyphs.
And so you've got these, they've got some of the tools, they've got the plans for how they built the device, and then they also lead to where you can find other things.
So it's kind of like once you get into these halls, you start getting clues to the puzzle, and then you can then go to the next stage and find some more.
art bell
They nevertheless, however, didn't make it.
I mean, they essentially became extinct despite the spiritual and high technological level they had achieved with all their power, Tesla technology and all the rest of it.
They're not around.
So when you get back, I want to ask Gordon whether there's information, which many people believe, in these centers and in this library of knowledge yet to be uncovered, we think yet to be uncovered, that would tell us how to save ourselves.
How can we save ourselves if they were unable to save themselves?
unidentified
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art bell
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unidentified
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One hour to go.
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So far, no major Y2K problems.
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As a matter of fact, CBS News correspondent Lou Biliano, they've been cheering all day, right?
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The latest of hourly warm-ups for the Times Square climax.
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The president will speak in less than an hour just before a spectacular fireworks display at midnight.
2,000 well underway in London.
art bell
On the Thames was spectacular.
unidentified
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unidentified
Russia's welcoming in the new year with a fireworks display and some concerns about the future.
art bell
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CBS News reporter Bill Gasparini says Putin has already appeared in public, pinning medals on Russian veterans of the fighting in Chechnya.
unidentified
This is a way for Putin to show that he's a man of action, paying homage to the soldiers who are serving in Chechnya, a war which many would say is the vehicle which has propelled Putin into the position he's in.
His hardline stand against Chechen fighters who are accused of terrorism has won him widespread support in Russia.
art bell
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unidentified
Sounds like some people in Asia were actually hoping there would be Y2K problems.
art bell
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unidentified
No such luck, as far as we know.
Everything seems to be working normally.
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art bell
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He's been kind of a friend for years now, and on this program tonight, when he could have been elsewhere on networks and who knows where.
Gordon, the obvious question that I trailed with as we left the hour was, somehow or another, they did not save themselves despite this great technology, this spiritual level they had apparently achieved.
They're gone.
unidentified
They are.
gordon michael scallion
They are gone.
They did have a millennium of use of that technology in that temple site that they had built there.
And then there was a great cataclysm when the last remaining portions of Atlantis sank and they created yet another flood for the world.
So in that time period, their culture did reach high levels.
They did populate the world and move people around the world, which then generated like sub-races of people, if you will.
And it's not too much different.
If we look at what we know scientifically, archaeologically, we can look at Greece, you know.
art bell
So in a way they survived.
unidentified
Rome.
gordon michael scallion
Everybody goes through this point.
I mean, our nation is a relatively, really young nation.
And looking at television tonight, with the satellite coverage around the world, even with my technological background, I'm in awe of it.
art bell
It's amazing.
gordon michael scallion
It was like, you know, it's seeing this interconnectedness that's possible.
It shows us our potential.
But even knowing all of that, there will be another cycle.
Everything has a cycle.
And it's a natural rhythmic cycle of the Earth.
Yes.
art bell
Here's where I want to ask you a big question.
You know, the weather changes on Earth right now, Gordon, are obvious.
Obvious to almost everybody.
The Arctic has lost 40% of the ice depth.
The Antarctic has ice fields falling off.
The glaciers are melting.
The signs are everywhere.
And the weather, I mean, the storms that just hit Europe, for example, unbelievable storms.
What would have been category four hurricanes that shouldn't even be developing at this time of year in the winter in Europe?
And yet they slammed into Europe with horrid destruction.
And our own storms, our hurricanes, our tornadoes, they're all getting bigger and more frequent.
And is that a part of this cycle?
gordon michael scallion
It is part of it.
According to the American Red Cross, this is the 1999 was the most destructive year in recorded history.
We had more natural disasters affected more places on the planet than ever before.
And so, you know, the Red Cross is one of those organizations that I support wholeheartedly.
In fact, the royalties from my book, Don't from the Cosmos, are donated to organizations like the Red Cross.
art bell
They've had a lot of work lately.
gordon michael scallion
Well, I mean, look at the, you know, we've got the unbelievable floods that just occurred.
art bell
Venezuela.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, and we have a count of, you know, 20,000, 30,000 souls.
And then if we look back shortly after the time of the eclipse, we see the turkey quakes and cyclones and then the floods we had in North Carolina and even in your state.
One of the things that I said last time I was on your show is that we would see water in Nevada.
And so you had those conditions in North Carolina.
So we're seeing all of this.
And of course, if you look at what the media would tend to say is that, well, it was an El Niño and then it was a La Niña.
art bell
I know.
gordon michael scallion
And it just doesn't explain.
No.
But what does explain it is something that both you and I know as ham radio operators is this thing called sunspots.
In fact, there is an aurora tonight.
At least I've been able to see it from New England where I am here.
art bell
Are you seeing it in New England?
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, it's not a very big one, but I was listening earlier on two meters, and I can hear that very familiar sound, that Russian white noise sound, sure.
And I said, Oh, there's an aurora someplace.
So we had, you know, somewhere we had something in the solar wind, a flare, something happened, maybe not a big one.
This wasn't a very well-developed one.
But the key thing is that the cause of this, and this ties into the pyramids in Egypt as well, as well as earth changes, is the sun.
The sun is the crucial instrument for all of this.
When I was on your show in February, we were talking about sunspots.
And one of the things that I had said on that show was that, and I'll read the exact quote from, this year we will see numbers that might hit 300, 400, or 500, not 150 or 200 as we recently experienced.
And as you know, we've been tracking sunspots for 400 years.
art bell
Yes.
gordon michael scallion
And the highest number never reached 200.
And all of a sudden, bingo, in June, it hits 340.
art bell
It did indeed.
gordon michael scallion
And then again in November, it punched over the 340 mark again.
art bell
And it's still climbing.
gordon michael scallion
And we're not yet at the peak.
art bell
In other words, as the sun turns, we keep coming into it again and again.
And it will happen again shortly.
They're talking about the month of January.
And we should get a real whopper.
There's no question about it.
But even at your latitude tonight, you're getting a slight aurora, huh?
unidentified
Yep.
gordon michael scallion
Wow.
A very slight one.
unidentified
It isn't well-pronounced multiple color bands, but the blues are there at least.
gordon michael scallion
So I would say it's a very, very small one.
art bell
Well, surprisingly, even shockingly, I don't know if you caught this story the other day, but the chief U.S. meteorological person and the chief in the United Kingdom both sent out an unprecedented joint statement saying climate change has now entered a rapid stage.
It's changing rapidly.
That's amazing for them to say.
unidentified
It is.
gordon michael scallion
And utility companies now, when you get your bills, I have little notes for them saying that due to this current sunspot cycle 23, that there may be outages.
And they go on to even tell you why.
The last time we had the cycle, the numbers were not, you know, they weren't very high, but the grid network wasn't as interconnected as it is now.
And so, you know, we're very vulnerable now.
We have a lot of wire out there strung up like a huge antenna.
And so it's the sun going through a much larger cycle than its 22-year cycle, or what is known as the 11-year sunspot cycle.
art bell
Or cycles within cycles.
gordon michael scallion
Exactly.
And in the Great Pyramid, they left that there as a marker to let people know for themselves.
It let them know when there was going to be changes in their land.
So they knew it was coming.
And they also wanted to let future generations know when it would happen again.
So they knew the cycle was about 12,000 years.
About every 12,000 years, there is an alteration of the Earth's magnetic field of some level.
Sometimes it's a complete flip.
Sometimes it's very small.
Sometimes it doesn't occur.
art bell
But generally triggered by or precipitated by the sun.
gordon michael scallion
That is my belief.
There is currently no scientific evidence to support that.
The only thing that we know scientifically is that when the magnetic field, the Earth's magnetic field begins to collapse, which for the past 50 years has been, and when it gets to that point, it's at that point where it snaps and the magnetic field adjusts itself.
It's like the Earth is like a spinning gyroscope and it wants to remain stable.
art bell
The star tracks the equivalent of shields down.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, yeah.
But in that pyramid, if you look out that there's an ascending passageway and a descending passageway.
And those passageways were used to calibrate, if you will, the pyramid.
It would line up on a specific star.
And therefore, once they had an alignment, they could then plot, they can finish building the device.
So the first thing they do is they dig this long passageway into the limestone surface going down hundreds of feet.
So it's almost like a telescope.
And then they can sight exactly.
And then once they have that, they can continue building the structure.
But they also knew that by studying a fixed star, that they can tell if there was going to be a variation in the Earth's orbit.
So they could tell very accurately when changes would come about.
And so they left that there.
And the actual angle of it is very important.
Another mystery of the pyramid was why do they build these ascending and descending passageways with the same angle?
It's a 26-degree angle.
And the reason that I believe it is, is because it indicates the offset of the Earth's axis.
The Earth currently has an axis of 23.5 degrees, and that varies throughout time.
But if it ever reaches 26 degrees, that's the critical point.
art bell
That's the point when we would see...
Yeah.
Now, a lot of people don't comprehend what that sudden flip might mean.
unidentified
What might it mean?
There's several levels.
gordon michael scallion
One is that the magnetic field itself of the Earth could shift, could change.
So where your compass was pointing north, for example, It might point to a slightly different direction.
And this could be a matter of a few degrees, it could be 90 degrees, it could be 180 degrees.
There's a lot of variables.
In our civilization, the variables are our technology, our global warming, all of that adds to the conditions.
I mean, right now we've got, as you stated, a massive meltoff.
You know, that is unbelievable.
Well, that is not caused by global warming.
It's just not even physically possible.
Even if you study the satellite photos, you see that the meltoff is coming beneath it, not above it.
So I believe what's happened is that the Earth's core itself has shifted its position relative to the mantle of the Earth.
art bell
Well, now you're right about that, because they said the thickness of the ice at the Arctic is 40% less than two decades ago.
Now, that's incredible.
That's an incredible amount of fresh water suddenly going into the Arctic Ocean.
That's just an incredible amount.
gordon michael scallion
And that should continue to increase until the Earth stabilizes itself again.
And the stability would be that, just like a gyroscope, it finds a new balancing point.
And once it finds that balancing point, it's okay.
So is it the end of the world?
I don't think so.
But I do believe that the weather patterns that we have seen this year, which are off the charts, will continue next year and more so.
We've got a phenomena coming up here, which I'm sure you must have talked about on your show at one time, which is this planetary alignment that's coming up this spring.
art bell
May 5th, 2000.
gordon michael scallion
The alignment begins to take hold somewhere around March.
We start to see some of the effects.
By April, it's swinging pretty close.
When we get into May, we're sitting there with a grouping of planets.
We've got Saturn, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Mars on one side of the Sun, and then on the other side of the Sun, we've got the Earth and Pluto.
And so all of those planets will affect not necessarily the Earth directly, but I believe they will affect the Sun.
So as we're hitting this solar cycle 23 peak, where the Sun is really starting to go ballistic as part of its natural cycle, now you've got all these planets lining up, you know, adding their own energy.
art bell
Boy, you know, I was about to jump on you and say, come on, the gravitational effect, even in that sort of alignment, could not affect Earth.
But I have heard so many people speak on angular momentum and the effect of the planets on the sun that that really resonates.
gordon michael scallion
And this is what I believe will happen is that we will see sunspot count that will be 500 and up.
We're going to see major flares.
And those are the things that couple to the Earth.
art bell
Boy, six meters is going to be great.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, and the awards, of course, will be...
art bell
Yes.
Actually, we had a narrow escape from one not long ago.
gordon michael scallion
Yes, that's true.
art bell
For a very short little time, they thought it was headed at Earth, and it scared the hell out of them.
Actually, it was headed in the precise opposite direction.
But they said, had it been headed toward us, there would have been quite a surprise for Earth.
gordon michael scallion
So they were prepared to turn the satellites around and shield them.
A lot of those birds that are up there are older technology.
And, you know, you remember when the cell phones all went down?
art bell
Oh, yeah.
gordon michael scallion
Well, next year we're going to see that.
We're going to see that kind of communications drop-off from the sun.
art bell
Even the cell phones, huh?
gordon michael scallion
Well, most of those, you know, we are moving into a wireless society now, and we're moving towards satellite-delivered communications.
This will be the, from the business point of view, will be the trend.
And even consumers.
If you go over to Europe, everybody has a cell phone.
art bell
Oh, sure.
I know.
gordon michael scallion
We're going to see more and more of those being delivered by satellite.
art bell
So, in other words, even the shielded satellites, if it's a big enough EMP from the EMP, a big enough flare or coronal mass ejection, even the shielded satellites might go down.
gordon michael scallion
There's no doubt in my mind that they will go down.
art bell
All right.
gordon michael scallion
How many?
art bell
How many?
Well, it won't take that many.
As you point out, we lost one nationwide.
All the credit card machines wouldn't work and a lot of other things.
I'm Art Bell.
My guest is Gordon Michael Scallion, and we'll be right back.
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There's hardly any argument left among the average person about the weather changes we're now undergoing.
And we know what's coming pretty much with the sun, although not to the scale described by Gordon.
But if this occurs and if there is a shift anywhere from 90 to 180 degrees, most people want to know what that really is going to mean for us, I think.
gordon michael scallion
It may be much less than that.
It may be a matter of a series of, I've seen a series of seven to eight degree shifts.
Oh, so have I. And so, you know, but it wouldn't matter even if you had a couple of degrees.
art bell
Well, what I've seen, what I've noted on the show, Gordon, is kind of a drift.
It'll drift seven degrees or so, and then it'll come back.
And that's been going on in the last couple of years.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
In my map, my future map of the world, I said things to look for is that we would have these magnetic shifts of about seven to eight degrees, and there would be a series of three of these things that would occur.
What that means is that should that occur, should we have a major or a significant shift?
There's two kinds of shifts.
One is a magnetic shift where the pole shifts.
And we have lots of scientific evidence that that's occurred hundreds, if not thousands, of times in the past.
We know that through core samples that they've drilled deep in the Earth, studying magnetites, and they can tell the direction of the magnetic field.
So they know it has shifted.
We have no evidence whatsoever that the Earth itself has tumbled in space, which would be a geophysical shift where the whole Earth itself kind of shifts over.
So my information is kind of focused on the magnetic shifts being triggered by solar activity.
So that's been a constant in my information.
What it means is that we would immediately change weather patterns in a matter of hours.
We could see a shifting of seasons, for example.
It could be that severe.
art bell
Well, how else do they account for the woolly mammoths with the green things in their mouths and bellies that they have found in the ice?
I mean, how else could you account for that?
gordon michael scallion
Well, it depends on what scientific group is studying it.
There is no consensus whatsoever.
It's one of those enigmas like the Great Pyramid.
But, you know, you do know one thing.
One of the things they do know is they know when it happened.
I mean, first it was, well, last ice age was at this date, you know, plus or minus two, three thousand years.
Now, then they got it down to, well, it happened within a couple of years.
Now they're at the point where they know exactly almost to the week when those mammoths died.
And they knew that because the buttercups, the things they were feeding on at that time, they knew when they would be in bloom.
So by studying the seeds, they were able to tell, you know, the month it would be in.
They were able to tell several things by studying many of them.
And from that study, they know that snow piled up so extensive that they just kept walking on top of each other and stacking them up like cord would.
And so something happened 12,000 years ago, 11,500 years ago, that changed weather patterns to shift instantly.
I believe that what happened is that when the plate that was supporting Atlantis let go, it entirely disrupted the magnetic field and also the jet stream, or the Gulf Stream.
The Gulf Stream at that time would have went to the east and around Atlantis and up the African coast.
So immediately you changed the ocean currents, you changed the magnetic fields, and so you are now changing the weather and it just sucked in all the cold air from the Arctic, just drove it in and created a whole new ecosystem.
And that stabilized itself and it's been that way ever since.
art bell
Well, except that it's not all that stable right now.
And as you look at the current signs that we know about and can document, what's your feeling with regard to where we are?
I mean, here we are moving along with all these signs we all can see.
Where are we with respect to the shift?
gordon michael scallion
Well, the window that I published in 91 and wrote about it extensively in my book was that there would be two time periods where we really had to watch out for the triggers.
A visionary or a futurist can see things very clearly, but to put a date on things becomes very difficult for any intuitive.
You have to either have a dream where you actually see a newspaper that gives you a date, or you have to study the signs that you're seeing.
You know, is it spring?
Is it summer?
Is it snow on the ground?
Can you see lights and plates?
You have to look for things that give you a clue.
The clues that I had was that between 98 and 2002, it's a four-year time period, it would be a high-stress area where we would see major weather changes.
I mean, it would just be off the stop to chart.
98 was a record-breaker.
99 beat that.
art bell
Oh, yeah, we've got that now.
gordon michael scallion
So we're halfway through that cycle.
Then, in 2000 and 2001, those two years, were the times where I saw the sun flaring up unbelievably.
And so that's like the first phase of it, but I see it continuing on in a lesser or even a more advanced level all the way to the year 2012.
But the next two years are the crucial years.
This year, 2000, and 2001.
And since the sunspot cycle is peaking in 2000, since we have these alignments in 2000, you know, there's enough logical things that we can look at, scientific things we know are going on, that say these could be the trigger.
Sometimes triggers for events delay things.
Like we had the eclipse in August.
And I had said that wherever the eclipse passes through the Balkans, through Turkey, through these areas, we're going to see earth changes.
And a week later, Turkey was hit.
art bell
Really hard, yes.
Oh, by the way, Gordon, I meant to mention, it went largely unnoticed.
Well, no, it didn't.
It was in the news.
There was a 7.0 earthquake very, very close to me, Gordon.
It shook the you-know-what out of us here.
I mean, it really scared us.
That was a big earthquake here in Professor, Nevada.
It was out just out a little bit in the desert, and it scared me, but good.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, one of the things I had said for 99 was that we would have to see a quake greater than seven in South America.
Now, there was a quake in Central America, in Mexico, and then very shortly thereafter, that quake hit you.
But I'm seeing more weather-related changes than I'm seeing and volcanic changes.
I think next year is going to be the year of the volcano.
So I think we're going to see volcanoes coming alive, especially after the spring, you know, as we get into the summer months.
I think we're going to see a lot of volcanic activity, especially between the topic of cancer and Capricorn.
There's a 60-degree belt there, 30 degrees above and below the equator.
I think we're going to see a lot of thermal emissions coming out of the ocean.
And of course, most of the volcanoes are under the ocean.
art bell
So, then, to some degree, Gordon, have you changed your mind?
You had a very strong vision of a series of earthquakes around the Ring of Fire.
And I recall you said that if we had a series which damn near completed, you about got it.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
It had to be four of them.
Four of them, yeah.
It was like a 12-part prediction.
art bell
And people say, well, you know, it never happened.
Well, most of it happened, actually.
gordon michael scallion
11 of the 12 happened, but the 12th one did not happen.
It happened, but the yield was much, much less.
There was a scenario that was active during 97, 98, and that scenario probably still is active.
I have not seen it recently, but it says that if there's a quake in the Indian Ocean that's greater than seven, then that triggers through the internal mechanism of the Earth quakes that would occur in Japan, then South America, then the west coast of the United States.
art bell
Do you now think that scenario less likely?
gordon michael scallion
No, I think that scenario is still valid.
don't know when, but the pattern happened three times.
It's no exception.
You watch it go bing, bing, bing, and then the last of it just kind of fizzle out.
unidentified
Right.
gordon michael scallion
You know, which is a good thing.
I think it's still active, but, you know, the things that I'm seeing now seem to be much more powerful visions than the earthquakes.
And it deals with massive amounts of water moving around and fire, volcanoes.
So fire and water is what I see for 2000.
art bell
Boy, I hate to say this, but what you're saying now coincides with what a lot of other intuitives have said, particularly about the sun and about the current weather changes.
gordon michael scallion
As you get closer to an event, you can get a room full of intuitives and you can talk about it, and they may unanimously agree on a particular event.
And then when you start to look for the dates of that event, it can vary from months, weeks, years, decades.
But as you get closer to an event, it seems like the psychic strength of the event gets stronger and more people begin to see it.
So somebody might see something 20 years out, a visionary like H.G. Wells or somebody sees something and everybody else says, you know, you're crazy.
And then all of a sudden, as you get closer to that event, other people start getting the same idea.
So it depends on the training of the intuitive of how far off they can see that event.
art bell
Well, that's an interesting, possible, close-in future for us.
The next question everybody asks is, so what do I do if I think this scenario is one that will play out?
Do I protect myself?
Do I go out and say, whatever happens, happens, take me lord?
Or do I leave it to everybody's gut feeling?
unidentified
What do you do?
gordon michael scallion
Well, you know, probably nobody has had as much feedback on this type of work than I have and have seen as much as I've seen.
This is my 20th year in December.
In fact, as of yesterday, it was 20 years since I received my first image.
So I played these out.
And when I did, I finally, I went through phases myself.
The first phase was not to tell anybody anything.
unidentified
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
Total denial.
The next phase was that you start having dreams and nightmares.
And so you say, well, I'll tell some of my closest friends.
And then you do that, and they react.
In that case, not positively.
So you withdraw again.
And then the dreams and nightmares will continue.
And then you finally spread it out.
And then all of a sudden, before you know it, the information is out there.
Now, for myself, what I've done is I said, I believe that there's no way to totally protect yourself from anything.
I mean, you can be in a city, like New York City tonight, you know, celebrating, and you can be in a crowd and having a great time and somebody who, you know, who just attacked Harrison, you know, you just don't know what could happen.
art bell
Yeah, here he was with giant fences and 24-hour day guards and all the rest of it, and it happened anyway.
gordon michael scallion
So the most important thing, though, is that if you get locked into fear, then you're a goner.
Because fear will take over, and you're no longer able to take advantage of your God-given abilities of intuition.
And intuition is not something that you have to train for 10 years and do yoga.
It's something that you have, and you just have to learn how to wake it up and then learn how to trust it.
But there's certain things that I believe that, at least what I did for my family, I did the first thing.
I said, well, what if we, if I'm Y2K?
I have a preparedness kit.
I have one in my car.
I have one in our home.
We're moving towards a total off-the-grid, as I understand you are now.
Yes.
art bell
Yes, I am.
gordon michael scallion
So we're moving towards that point.
And then having done that, I forget about it.
I just don't deal with it anymore.
unidentified
Get it done.
art bell
I'm ready.
gordon michael scallion
I've done what I can do.
And then what I do is I make sure I spend my time trying to be centered and listen to the little urges inside that say, you know, don't do this or do this.
And sometimes it just says, don't do anything now.
That's the hardest part.
You know, listening to the fact of do nothing, wait for the next cycle to come along, you know, for your next guidance.
So, you know, the final clue is that you have to really go deep within and you have to learn to trust what you're getting.
And then if you're following that and you're following your path, whatever you need, financially or health-wise or safety, you know, it'll be provided.
art bell
Is your guidance about these events becoming more or less urgent than it was, say, a year or two years ago?
gordon michael scallion
I would say that when I looked at it back two years ago, it was almost as if it was reading a story that somebody had written, you know.
And, you know, I'm reading it and I'm saying, oh, well, that's kind of interesting, you know, a little scary, but interesting.
And now I look at it and I say, you know, I see the physical ramifications of what I said 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
I see the weather, the deviations of the magnetic field.
I see all these things occurring.
So when they start happening like that, you know, the indications are that this window, this next 24-month window, is going to be very critical.
I'm hopeful that we'll just pass through it and the flares will not be enough to trigger it and we'll just move on.
art bell
Do you assign odds to something like this?
In other words, it does look like there are a lot of negative signs with regard to the next 24 months.
How negative?
What chance of passing through it unscathed?
50, 50, do you think, or what?
gordon michael scallion
Oh, you know, I don't think anything is 100%.
But I would have to say that in the next two years we're going to see things that will change the maps of the world, and I would have to say it's 90%.
art bell
90%.
Okay.
gordon michael scallion
That does not mean that it's the end of civilization.
It just means that we're going to see massive changes on the Earth, magnetically, weather-wise.
Because when I look through the future, I see people in the civilizations, and people look a little differently, and the technology looks differently.
But I see them, and I see communities, and so I know that we get through this time period.
art bell
Man continues.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
art bell
All right, as he probably always has in one form or another.
All right, we'll break it right here.
My guest is Gordon Michael Scallion, and I'm very honored to have him here this night.
And I'm very honored to have my wife here, who's in a strange-looking hat right now of some sort.
She'll bend down for the camera.
And oh, it's a 2000 hat.
Really nice.
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art bell
East Coast, here it comes.
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I...
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Happy New Year, happy new century, and most would say happy new millennium.
Fireworks go off over Times Square, New York.
Packed in behind metal barriers, the crowd goes wild.
Unaware that police just reported arresting one man nearby with a loaded unlicensed rifle, but no other trouble reported.
Our live coverage continues with TBS News correspondent Lou Miliano barely able to hear, I'll bet, with all their shouting, hugging, and kissing.
What an absolutely incredible display, a thrilling outpouring of emotion, every imaginable response to the climax of the parting of the century.
An explosion of cheers as that huge, descending, sparkling crystal ball emblazoned the brilliant 2000 confetti cannons are creating a blizzard of color, showering the hugs and the kisses and the tears down here in the street.
And over all of this, a spectacular fireworks display, turning night into day, with all of the hourly time zone dancers and huge puppets and pageantry returning now with this crowd going absolutely wild.
With more now, back to Dan Revere.
That's Lumiliano live here in Times Square.
And where did President Clinton speak at the giant Washington, D.C. celebration on the mall where CBS News White House correspondent Peter Mayer is standing by?
Peter?
This is the crowning moment of the national New Year's celebration here on the Washington Mall.
President Clinton has just ignited a symbolic fuse that is turning the Washington Monument into a huge Roman candle.
Hundreds of small rocket-shaped sparklers are cascading, sending a fountain of fireworks off the sides of the towering monument.
It's called the midnight moment here as the memories of 1999 flow into the hopes for 2000 and beyond.
Reporting live, I'm Peter Mayer, CBS News with the president at the Lincoln Memorial.
What about computer glitches?
Here's CBS News correspondent Barry Bagnato at the Y2K Center here in Washington.
Barry?
Worrying and billions of dollars spent, officials here are surprised, pleasantly surprised that those significant Y2K problems have been reported anywhere in the world.
Power and communication system, six have now been released safely.
Police Lieutenant Joe Pruitt can't say yet if more are still inside.
We have two suspects inside the bank.
The number of hostages is undetermined yet.
The area is cordoned off.
Our hostage negotiators and the FBI are in contact with these people.
art bell
Police were tipped with the hostage taken by a frantic phone call from inside the bank.
He may be best remembered as the attorney general who defied Richard Nixon over the Watergate investigation.
unidentified
Elliot Richardson has died at age 70.
art bell
In 1973, Richardson refused Nixon's order to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox.
unidentified
Another look at our top story: the crowd's going wild in New York's Times Square, where more than 1 million people from all around the world have gathered to say so long to 1999 and hello to a new year and a new millennium.
For now, that famous square is the center of the universe.
art bell
I'm Sam Litt Sr., CBS News.
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Love is all around me.
And so the feeling grows This way It's everywhere I go.
art bell
Good morning.
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The new millennium is on our shores.
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And as the new year, as the new millennium touches America, the tetrahedron touches the Discover Card sign.
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That's who we are.
Welcome to the new Millennium on the East Coast, and they're showing on the various networks.
All the cities up and down the East Coast celebrating its absolutely spectacular.
But as I said, just in a slightly cynical way, as you look at Times Square, the giant ball with all these rotating tetrahedron things comes down and nearly banged into the Discover card sign.
But maybe for us, maybe for us here in the West, that's just about the way it ought to be, huh?
Anyway, it looks like everybody's having a lot of fun, and it looks safe so far.
Cross your fingers, knock on wood.
It's still early.
But the new millennium is now on our shores, folks.
And it's headed toward us here in the West.
At the speed of the sun.
Anyway, we'll be right back.
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art bell
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The End All right, as you well know, because I've explained it to you over a period of time, I've started to take some pretty serious alternative energy steps.
Traditional alternative energy.
I have a lot of solar panels up and wind generators and that sort of thing.
But we're facing an interesting situation in the very near future.
The next 40 years, the next two years aside, the next 40 years will see us run out of oil.
So we've got to begin to move toward alternative energy in a really big way.
I'm doing what I can right now, but that's all that's out there to be done at the moment.
Gordon, what is coming in the world of alternative energy?
gordon michael scallion
A lot of the technology that's in the military right now, the black ops, that technology will find its way into the world.
I don't see it happening in the short term, but I see it coming, you know, definitely in this coming decade.
It's possible that somewhere around the next five years, it could be sooner, we're going to see it.
And the technology that I talked about when I was first on your show years ago, was that I saw the fuel cell as the next instrument that would come out by the turn of the century.
art bell
The kind of fuel cells that we hear NASA talk about in the shuttles.
gordon michael scallion
Right.
And now they're delivering.
I'm on the list for one myself.
I expect to have it here shortly.
art bell
What are the claims?
gordon michael scallion
What will it do?
There's several companies.
PowerPlug is one of the largest ones that are in there.
And basically, it's large.
It's the size of perhaps twice the size of a refrigerator currently.
And basically what it will do is it will produce up to 10 kilowatts of power using it's a hydrogen-based system.
So they have a container that they load you up with, and you have your own little power plant.
Now the next evolution of this is they will have a heat reclaimer.
So not only will it give you power, but it will also give you heating and cooling.
art bell
Why not?
Otherwise it goes to waste.
gordon michael scallion
So by the time they roll out the first units, and they're claiming delivery in 2000, by the time they roll that out, engineering is already pretty much along the way for the second evolution, which will be half the size of the units.
So fuel cells and that technology being transferred to cars.
As long as gasoline, as long as oil is cheap, as long as it's cheap, and here in the States, you know, it's really cheap.
If you go to Europe, it's a whole different ballgame.
But as long as it's cheap, the internal combustion engine will continue.
We'll make it more efficient.
We'll reduce some of the pollutes from it.
We'll accomplish all of those things.
We'll make vehicles lighter.
Therefore, we'll increase the miles per gallon.
But as soon as oil changes, as soon as something upsets the oil pipeline, that's when you start to see alternative technologies coming forward.
art bell
That's also when you see conflict.
Yes.
In other words, are there wars in our future?
Are they going to be over oil, water?
What will we fight about if we fight, or will it all stop?
gordon michael scallion
You know, as an idealist, I would wish that this new millennium would mean that we would never have another war.
We would never have another terrorist.
We wouldn't see shootings in schools of our children, by children.
However, I know that the speed that the planet is running right now, going faster and faster, that we're heading for someplace in destiny where there'll be great changes.
And wars have been part of our lifestyle forever.
In the future, however, if I look past the year 2012, I don't see that.
I see a time period where there isn't this kind of wars.
But I still see a war, there's a screen of that war and it's still there and it doesn't go away.
And it starts off in Turkey and goes to the Middle East.
I don't know when.
I just see it.
I see it as one of those middle screens, which means that it hasn't gone away.
But that could disrupt oil.
But the next technology that will come after the fuel cell will be magnetic in nature.
Magnetically, devices that are magnetically driven, but they're induced by an energy system contained within the Earth.
It's like riding on the Earth's magnetic field.
art bell
Right.
gordon michael scallion
Right.
And so, since the magnetic field is all over the Earth, it's a simple matter of riding it and coupling to that energy.
art bell
Okay, well, that begins to move toward what we began with tonight, Tesla technology.
unidentified
Yes.
gordon michael scallion
And I believe it is the same thing.
I believe it's the standing wave technology that he was referring to that's always present and it's there.
It's a whole different system.
I mean, you know, if you watch lightning storms and you see what really happens in this new and incredible photography, this high-speed photography, you watch this bolt from the Earth go up to the cloud and then a strike coming back down.
art bell
That's correct.
gordon michael scallion
And so, you know, there's a potential difference between the cloud and the earth, but the earth itself, as Tesla found out, is full of electricity.
It's totally, I mean, we think of it as ground earth, but it's really, relative to the atmosphere, it's highly charged.
And we will use that technology, that magnetic field technology, to power devices in the future.
Before the decade is out, that technology will be in place.
And it could come earlier.
Crises aims to bring on technology faster.
art bell
Yes, it does.
We are in the longest sustained economic boom in our nation's history.
We have never seen anything like it.
People refer to it as now the endless, the endless economic boom.
And is it really endless?
gordon michael scallion
It certainly does seem that way, doesn't it?
I mean, right now, here it is.
It's January 1st in the East Coast.
It's a new year, which means that half of the people who predicted that the market was going to go down were wrong.
art bell
No, no, the market ended up at a record high.
The NASDAQ crested 4,000.
gordon michael scallion
I mean, it's just the people who said that it was going to go down, you know, the market went up.
And I was one of those who felt that the market would do a correction near the end of the year.
art bell
But it didn't.
gordon michael scallion
It didn't.
And it's defying Things, but if you follow any cycle, I mean, there will be a correction.
What's driving the market, which is becoming an international thing, of course, is the technology stocks.
And, you know, you've got a few stocks that are heavily weighted, you know, the Qualcomms or the Microsofts.
I mean, you've got these few stocks here who are moving so fast, and yet there's nothing solid.
I mean, if you ask, if they had to liquidate, the value is not there.
It's so overinflated.
It's all based on potential.
But I see the technical market continuing to race ahead.
I do see the Fed stepping in next year a couple times.
art bell
So in other words, the interest rates probably will bump a couple of times a couple years.
gordon michael scallion
I think a couple times before we even get to the summer.
art bell
Oh, really?
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
art bell
Trying to cool it down.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, and I still see this correction.
I still see it there.
Don't know what's going to happen, but I still feel there's going to be a correction.
art bell
Everybody has always asked about the market.
And so when we're at 2001, which a lot of purists suggest is the real new millennium, although they've lost that battle, what do you think the market will be like there?
gordon michael scallion
It is entirely possible that next year, even with a correction, that we could see a jump of $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 on the style, for example.
art bell
Wow.
gordon michael scallion
We could see that kind of a jump.
art bell
Holy smokes.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, I think we're going to, you know, the NASDAQ is the one to really watch.
That's the one that's kind of pulling everything else along.
Now, if there's a, you know, a lot of people didn't pull out of the market or take their profits yesterday because of tax reuse.
You know, the market was high.
Y2K wasn't looking like it was going to be a big thing, which you and I both said it wouldn't be.
And then, but as soon as we click off into the next business day, when Monday comes along, I know.
We probably will start hearing about the Y2K problems and software.
We'll start hearing little problems.
But I think at that time, you're going to see some profit taking.
art bell
You know, it's really interesting, Gordon, that the mass media is reporting everything as hunky-dory, which it is right now as midnight crosses these various time zones.
But when they do go back to business on Monday, there's going to be a significant, I believe, amount of disruption.
Not world-ending, but a lot of companies are going to have a nasty surprise waiting for them.
gordon michael scallion
There's going to, you know, I think we're going to see more of that in third world countries.
You know, Russia put a lot of work on their defense system with U.S. assistance.
The NASA did it on their oil fields.
We did the same thing in Saudi and other places.
But, you know, those countries, there's a lot of old technology.
And I think that that's where you're going to see the disruptions.
And then that in turn will eventually, which may take months, affect us in imports.
So, you know, we may see these changes now.
art bell
So Y2K is not over because everything's okay at midnight in 2000.
gordon michael scallion
We need to look over a period of several months to see these.
So there will be problems that we'll call it, but it's not a disaster end of the world event.
art bell
Obviously so.
And it looks like the one thing that I was concerned about, which was the power, apparently is going to be okay.
It might even be a little early to say that, but it does look pretty much as though it's going to be okay.
What about...
I don't know whether you can look at this and whether you can see it, but human beings are...
You know, we're in kind of a strange...
But as you well know, our young people are just absolutely out of control.
I mean, horrid things are happening, Gordon.
And socially, what do you see ahead?
gordon michael scallion
I see some major problems.
There's a couple of things that are just, you know, really accelerated now.
Manic depression, for example, is really raging.
The Internet, with all of its wonderfulness, is like anything.
It has both sides of the coin.
And it's very possible that it contributes somewhat, not exclusively by any means, but it sets up at least the conditions for people to lose sight of things.
The family unit is in trouble, has been in trouble.
Socially, I see the speed up of the earth driving changes in social behaviors and patterns.
We also can look to the family unit.
We can look to the fact that, you know, if we go back to when you and I were growing up, you know, we were playing with ham radio, we had a family, things were different.
Today, you know, both parents are working.
Daycare is part of life.
It's very busy.
It's very competitive.
Everything is running very, very fast.
art bell
Everybody's on the internet.
Ham radio is dying.
As a matter of fact, by the way, they just restructured ham radio, the big announcement from the FCC, and they've reduced the code speed for any class of license down to five words per minute.
Gordon, did you know that?
gordon michael scallion
I heard that the ARE had proposed it.
I didn't know that it had...
I know that I had gone down and I have an advanced class, and I had taken the code back in the days when you could go down to an FCC station.
art bell
Same here.
gordon michael scallion
And so I understand that even that class is going to be discontinued.
art bell
That's right.
It's all done by fellow hams now.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
art bell
So things are rapidly changing, and they're trying to do this to draw people back into ham radio, and I hope they do it because we need a technical base in this country, people who know how to do things beyond pulling out one black box and putting in another black box to fix what's wrong.
That's not a real technician.
unidentified
Right.
gordon michael scallion
Also, anytime there's a hurricane, a flood, a cyclone, a natural disaster of any type, you will find a ham there with his radio relaying messages.
That's one of the, you know, I've been involved with the civil defense for 30 years.
And that's one of the parts of ham radio that I always felt very good about.
I felt that was a contribution that I could make.
You know, since my station is here for our town if they need it.
art bell
That's right.
As is mine.
A lot of hams are, of course, standing by tonight.
All right, we're going to break here.
And when we come back, I'm going to open up the phone lines for Gordon Michael Scallion.
So if you have a question for our nation's Premier Intuitive, that's what we're going to do when we come back.
Gordon Michael Scallion here tonight.
unidentified
All right, and it's coming home.
They gotta get right back to where we started going.
Love is good.
Love is good.
They gotta get right back to where we started going.
Oh, come on.
It's the new and the day.
It's the new and the day.
you first came my way I said no one would take your way and if you get AMA 40 KXNT.
Dr. Lump.
Yeah!
Happy New Year.
I'll tell you what, there's a big party going on out there.
art bell
You've got to see New York and Washington, Atlanta.
They're going absolutely bonkers with every reason to.
It'll never happen to us again.
Not the ones here now.
We've just blitzed the thousand-year mark on the East Coast.
Congratulations to all of you who made it.
Going to the phones with Gordon Michael Scallion next.
unidentified
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art bell
It is, and we're all on a ride right now.
Can't you feel it?
It's everywhere around you.
You can feel it.
It's electric.
And by the way, the electricity is still on out there.
We'll get back to Gordon Michael Scallion going to the phones next.
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Now, I'm not talking about Y2K problems.
I'm talking about normal times, which, by the way, they are right now.
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Actually, totally foul connections, slow speeds, non-connectivity, people who won't help you when you call and generally tell you it's your fault.
Call us when you've got it fixed, that kind of thing.
MindSpring is such a better place to be.
If you would like to email me, that's where you're going to find me, Art Bell.
That's me, A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com.
And you ought to be there, too.
They've got the fast connections, reliable connections, good people.
They've got the spaminator.
Now, the spaminator is something that will eliminate all the crap from your email box.
All the unsolicited ads and X-rated stuff, all gone.
You don't want your kids seeing that anyway, do you?
So please listen to me when I tell you it's a better place.
And if you buy one month from them, when you mention my name, Art Bell, they'll give you two months free.
And the only way they can do that is if you're absolutely sure you're going to stick around.
unidentified
And they are.
art bell
So call them even now at 1-888-677-7464.
That's 1-888-677-7464.
unidentified
All these years I like to tell you what I'm thinking, but I'm too much of a gentleman.
Look at this.
The way you wanted me to build her, she could take four compartments opened up completely.
But after that, there's too much weight.
She's going to come down at the head.
All the pumps working.
Maybe we got an hour, maybe two.
And then she's going to break.
gordon michael scallion
Right here by the engine compartment.
Right there by the reciprocating engines.
unidentified
That's where she's going to break.
gordon michael scallion
How do I know that?
unidentified
Because I've break the bloody ship.
I know how she lives.
I don't know how she's going to die.
That audio spirit doctor.
art bell
By the way, everybody, Gordon Michaels Gallion's book, Notes from the Cosmos, is available, I would assume, in stores and Amazon.com and all the usual places.
Is that still true, Gordon?
gordon michael scallion
It is true.
And last year when I was on all the stores, the Barnes and Nobles, everybody sold out.
So this year they said that they were going to make sure they had them in stock so they can get them to there.
And if they're out of stock or they can't get it, they can always call my office.
And one of our staff would be happy to mail them out a copy.
art bell
Do you want to give out that number?
unidentified
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
This is Monday through Friday, 9 to 5 Eastern.
The offices will be closed until Monday.
And it's 603-363-4164.
And the royalties from this book goes to charities.
And my prime one is American Red Cross.
art bell
The American Red Cross.
Notes from the Cosmos area code 603-363-4164 or in bookstores, no doubt, across America.
All right, to the phones we go.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Gordon Michaels Callion.
Happy New Year.
unidentified
Well, Happy New Year to you, too.
art bell
Okay, you're a little hard to hear, so yell out.
unidentified
Happy New Year to you, both.
gordon michael scallion
Thank you.
unidentified
It's a real pleasure and privilege to get through.
And my questions are about the visions in the future.
By the way, I'm from San Diego.
Okay.
His name's Donna.
Hi, Donna.
He mentions a couple of things, if it's possible, I would like to know more about, if you can share it.
One, changes in maps.
Is it anything hazy or fuzzy that further he could say about that?
And I was also interested that he said people look a little different when this is all over.
art bell
That's right.
All right.
Well, let's see if we can press him on that.
You have a map.
I have it out in my hot tub room.
It covers a whole wall.
It's beautiful.
It's a future map of the world.
And is there anything that since the publication of that map, Gordon, if you were to redo today, you would change?
gordon michael scallion
No, it's remained the same.
Some of the windows of things happening, some of them are earlier than I thought.
It will happen earlier.
Some of them will happen later.
So there's a little time fluctuation there.
But the map remains the same.
I have seen no changes in it for the past three, four, five years, whatever.
art bell
Some map.
All right, and the people, she's right.
You mentioned they looked a bit different.
Any further clarification on that?
gordon michael scallion
Yes.
Let me go back to the map for a minute.
In my book, I do describe the kind of changes that will be going on.
So there's a dialogue in there that you can see it.
And if you go to my website, there's a map there that you can click on by continent, and it'll give you a general idea of what the changes are like.
And that website is matrixinstitute.com.
The changes I've seen in people, 1988 I did a paper and distributed it, and actually published it about these children that I saw that were coming into the world that were different.
I described them as children of the blu-ray.
And these children somehow have these very special, unique gifts.
They were, a lot of them wouldn't eat meat, for example, just at birth.
They just wouldn't eat it.
They couldn't handle meat.
They were very bright, highly intuitive.
They tended to almost, and now, of course, it's been several decades later where I meet parents now and they remind me that they had heard that back in the 80s.
art bell
So you're talking about an evolutionary change?
gordon michael scallion
It is.
It's another sub-race of a people.
And the changes of the race are due to the changes in our solar activity.
The position of our Earth relative to the Sun.
The axis angle is going to change.
And all that is going to create, bring about changes, just like a tree will go through changes, or an animal, for example, in the winter will get thicker fur as part of its natural cycle.
If it's warm all the time, then the animal will change.
It'll adapt, just as we will.
And so these children, these Blu-ray children, are what I saw occurring in the 90s.
And then as we get into the year 2012, 2015, we see the people who are born, not the people who are born now, but the people who are born at those years, if you looked at them, they would look different.
Almost the pigmentation is different of their skin.
Whether you were black or white or red, makes no difference.
The pigmentation of the skin would give it almost a cast of very, very, you know, very, ever so faint blue.
But this is like the new generations, if you will, the new millennium children.
art bell
Well, we already have children in Australia who are required to wear headgear when they're outside going to school, whatever, because of the thinning of the ozone.
And is that the kind of thing that produces an evolutionary change?
gordon michael scallion
That's one of the things that would do it.
And if the atmosphere was changed drastically, where we were bringing more solar radiation in, that would do it.
I think what happens is that the sun changes and therefore the earth changes.
And then the vibration of the earth, the resonance of the earth, is actually going to change, I believe.
And that's going to modify our DNA.
And I think this is what brings about the change.
art bell
Yes, that would do it.
That would do it all right.
Wow, Cardeline, you're on the air with Gordon Michaelscallion in New Hampshire.
unidentified
Hello.
Good day.
This is Karen in Houston.
How are you doing, Art?
art bell
Hi, Karen.
unidentified
Hey, Gordon.
gordon michael scallion
Hi, Karen.
unidentified
I'm so glad you're on.
I really am.
In a nutshell, you're putting so much together, but my question is, how do we pack our nutshell?
I mean, all of this that you're telling us, how do we draw it all together and kind of, you know, put together what we had before, what you said about the pyramid, in material, technology, spirit?
How can we, in baby steps, like one, two, three, keep this going?
Now that we have an understanding of it, we need to apply whatever we're made of to make this come about.
And it may be baby steps, but we can kind of lay a better path for those children you're talking about.
And I have witnessed some of these children that you're talking about.
That's why I'm asking.
How do we assist our future generations because nothing fizzles?
We don't want to go backwards.
gordon michael scallion
I don't think we will go backwards.
I think it's a natural process.
One of the things that I hear parents tell me is that their children, ages three years old, four years old, are really becoming the parents.
I hear this over and over again of how parents are learning from their children.
And not only computers that they can do, young people can master computers at young ages, five, six, seven.
It's more than that.
They have an understanding.
There's a lot of prophecies if we look at biblical, Native American.
Almost every culture talks about this millennium of peace that's coming, which we have just entered, and you will in another hour or two.
This period of time, it's like the earth gets bathed, if you will, in this spiritual matrix.
And what it does is it floods you with this incredible energy, and then you have a choice.
You can take the energy, take it in, and work with it, or you can deny it.
And of course, this is true with anything in life.
But the vibration of this earth and the sun and everything that's going on now is happening so fast.
I mean, the changes that I've seen in the speed in the past two years is unbelievable.
And if I look back 10 years, you know, or 20 years, I can just see we're like this freight train that's pulled out of a station and now we're starting to really roll.
What we have to do is once you become aware of something, there's various phases we go through.
We can go through denial, we can go through anger.
Eventually, depending on our path, we come to acceptance.
And there's only one thing that I have found that we can really do as a society, and that is that we have to be constantly taking some time every day to kind of go inside and ask those questions that are important to us and trust that there is a greater universe of intelligence.
There is a God.
And regardless of your race, your belief system, it's this universal force.
And the window for communications with this force is opening up wide.
And for a thousand years, we're going to have this wide open window where it is going to be easy for everybody to be a visionary.
If we choose to take the time to listen, and that means that we can't one day say, I'm too busy, I've got to do this, you have to make the time.
It doesn't have to be much.
I suggest, in my courses, I tell my students, take seven minutes a day.
And in that seven minutes, get a notebook.
Write down whatever questions.
If your question, Karen, was that, you know, how can I be of service during these times, my family, to the friends, to neighbors?
And you do the seven-minute exercise, and you do it every day faithfully at the same time, it sets up a window of communications with spiritual forces.
Those forces are within you and without you.
unidentified
It's a uniform energy system.
gordon michael scallion
And when you start hearing things at first, you'll be amazed.
And you write them in your journal.
And I find that if people do it for 21 consecutive days without missing a day or a time, that their intuition levels are off the charts.
It's almost scary.
I get letters from students saying, you know, I did this and now I'm really nervous.
And that's when you really have to trust.
You have to keep it going.
If you miss a day in the 21 days, then you need to start all over again from day one.
unidentified
Well, I understand what you mean by trust because I do trust that a grand creator does not make mistakes.
So everything must be in place, and so I feel like if we can really draw on that, then we will be following the right lead.
art bell
Well, the grand creator may not, but we do.
We're capable of mistakes, and so that was good instruction.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Gordon Michael Scallion.
unidentified
Hello.
Happy New Year from New York, Art.
art bell
Oh, how's it going there?
unidentified
Things are going fine.
All essential services up and running.
I'm calling from Yonkers, which is about 15 miles north of Times Square.
We saw the fireworks go up.
It was very spectacular.
art bell
Oh, it really was.
I saw it too.
unidentified
Oh, it was gorgeous.
I'm listening to you, of course, on 77WABC.
You may be interested to know that Curtis Lewa broke in on you twice.
art bell
Oh, no surprise.
unidentified
Once for five minutes during your 10 to 10.30 Eastern Time segment, and then once again about an hour later for above five minutes, but he didn't last.
art bell
Well, he needs to get a life.
unidentified
I'd just like you to know that you have a lot of fans, especially in Monmouth County, New Jersey.
Bob and Nancy, a lot of folks listening to you all over the East Coast, I'm sure, tonight.
Thank you.
I'd like to ask Gordon something, specifically referring to the continent of Australia.
And Happy New Year, Gordon.
gordon michael scallion
Happy New Year to you, too.
unidentified
What is your name?
Something has tweaked my interest in Queensland near Cooktown.
I wondered if you have any impressions concerning that part of the continent.
gordon michael scallion
In 1979, one of the first series of visions I got that was from space looking down on the Earth was Australia.
And in fact, for the first probably a month or so, all I saw was the South Pole and Australia.
And so every time my vision would come up, I would write it down.
And then I had a series of dreams that told me why I was seeing New Zealand and Australia.
And it was because that in the future, New Zealand in particular, was going to be a major communications hub of the world.
It was going to disseminate information of a spiritual nature, not religious nature.
And that areas such as Queensland were going to become almost like sacred spaces, places.
unidentified
So there's, speaking of sacred spaces, that's the reason why I called you.
My name is John, by the way.
There is an enigmatic pile in Queenstown called Black Mountain.
It's a pile of boulders 1,000 feet high and several miles long, which has strange significance to the Aborigines there.
There's no way to account for a half billion ton pile of boulders.
And I just wanted to know if you had heard anything about that or if that affected you perhaps the same way as the Great Pyramid at Giza might have.
gordon michael scallion
Ayers Rock did.
Ayers Rock, the Red Rock, had a great effect on me.
The pile that you're speaking of, I did have a whole series of visions about that part of the world.
And what I saw was this great deluge that took and moved huge boulders and stones and just packed it into canyons.
And if it was like open plains, it would just dump it wherever the water would end.
And I'm quite certain that what you're talking about is that area.
unidentified
Well, given its proximity to the coast of Australia, it's only about 50 miles from the coast.
So that might jive with the Oceania, the Lemuria extinction phenomenon, perhaps.
gordon michael scallion
I believe so.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
art bell
Okay, Governor, thank you.
We don't have a whole lot of time left, Gordon.
We could take calls for a million years here, or at least another 1,000.
But let me do it one more time.
Your book is Notes from the Cosmos, and it's available in bookstores, we think, nationwide, certainly Amazon.com, and or you may make a phone call and get a copy on the way.
It's area code 603-363-4164.
And with that, is there anything else you'd like to tell everybody?
I mean, it is a fairly momentous, the new millennium is about to crash over the Midwest time zone in a few moments.
Anything you want to tell everybody?
gordon michael scallion
I'm very, you know, especially tonight watching CNN go through the different time zones and seeing that, you know, for these moments, there's kind of an international unity, you know, that goes beyond politics and religion.
It's a universal celebration.
And so I'm very hopeful about things that I'm seeing.
I do know that we are going to make great spiritual strides in the next year, amazingly so.
And it does not mean that everything will stop because it's the end of the cycle.
So we're going to see challenges and difficulties.
But the potential for personal growth will be greater than it's ever been in our lifetimes.
art bell
So in other words, there is more than just a date change.
gordon michael scallion
Correct.
art bell
Gotcha.
Gordon, I really want to thank you for taking time.
gordon michael scallion
My pleasure.
art bell
on this night to be here.
gordon michael scallion
Happy New Year to you.
I understand your wife is there.
Happy New Year to her and to all of my students and readers.
Happy New Year to you as well.
art bell
Happy New Year.
gordon michael scallion
Bye-bye.
art bell
Bye-bye.
That's Gordon Michael Scallion, folks.
Ramona Bell's right here.
unidentified
Coming up on midnight.
Central Time.
art bell
Central Time, that's right.
All right, folks.
Get ready to celebrate in the middle part of the country because the millennium's about to cross over your head.
And it is more than just a date.
You can feel it.
You can really feel it when you're watching the coverage.
I'm Arpell, and this is Coast to Coast AM extended version.
unidentified
I can read the writing on the wall.
art bell
AMA 40, KXNT.
Las Vegas, are you ready?
unidentified
Can we feel it?
One, two, three, four.
Here on Sunday's life, almost as big a crowd as the one is here for the 4th of July fireworks.
gordon michael scallion
It's a lot holder.
unidentified
A few blocks away, and Mayor Daly is playing host to two people from almost every country on earth.
And here, fireworks are going on in many, many different directions as the way the light show continues here in Chicago.
I'm Steve Miller, TBS News, live in Chicago.
Now the CBS reporter Rob Medford in Fort Worth, Texas.
This is Fort Worth where the West begins.
We now start the new millennium.
Celebration is dapped out with 20,000 people.
We got clear skies.
The stars are big and bright.
This midnight is fighting with a laser light showing 20 minutes of fireworks all hotter than Chili Pepper.
Across North Texas, no Y2K problems so far.
People are welcoming 2,000, Texas style, with lots of hooting and hollering.
I'm Rob Bilford live in Fort Worth, down to the crusted city of New Orleans, and reporter Dave Holmes, Julian WWL.
Confetti cannons have just showered the hundreds of thousands of people gathered here in the French Quarter in Confetti.
We're waiting for a huge fireworks display.
And there it goes.
Happy New Year from New Orleans, where babies are absolutely wild.
A massive crowd shoulder to shoulder packed into the French Quarter, having a wonderful time.
art bell
Now let's head to Dan Reviv in Times Square.
unidentified
And here in New York, the crowds are dispersing.
Some people are still cheering.
Police said they arrested one man about 10 blocks away with a loaded, unlicensed rifle in his car, but otherwise not much trouble for disorderly conduct arrests.
The lights have stayed on.
More on the national picture at the CBS News Y2K desk.
Correspondent Howard Ahrenstein joins us live.
Dan, some minor problems, but mostly tonight it sounded like this from the FAA's Monty Belgium.
We can say with certainty that we've had absolutely no safety problems, no breakdowns or interruptions in any of our active air traffic control systems.
Cash is still spitting out of ATMs, water is still flowing through the pipes, and computers are still working.
Officials say the transition appears to be successful, but they warn problems could still emerge.
Live at the CBS News Y2K desk, I'm Howard Erenstein.
President Clinton led the New Year's celebrations on the mall in Washington between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial, where huge screens showed a documentary film made by Steven Spielberg, in part narrated by Mr. Clinton.
People all over the world seem to be having a happy new year so far.
Here's CBS News reporter Elaine Cobb in Paris, where 12 o'clock came seven hours ago.
The show is over now.
It's time to go in search of a party.
An estimated 1.2 million people thronged the Champs-Élysées for midnight and a stunning 90-minute music and light show.
11 giant Ferris wheels lit up the avenue.
The Eiffel Tower danced its way into the year 2000 with a dazzling fireworks display.
Elaine Cobb, CBS News on the Champ-Élysées, Paris.
Stay with us in 57 Minutes, the New Year's Moment in the Mountain Time Zone.
For now, from Times Square, New York, this is CBS News.
I've had it with this.
America, America, God shed his grace on me.
art bell
A celebration to take the nation into the 21st century.
Thousands crowded onto the mall to enjoy music like that and to ooh and awe, a huge fireworks display.
I'm Sam Litzinger, CBS News.
unidentified
Commercials are more.
I'm Dean DeBoer with the exclusive AnkiWeather forecast, partly to mostly cloudy overnight with a low 37.
For New Year's Day, it won't be as mild with times of clouds and sunshine, a high 59.
Patchy Cloud, Saturday night.
Patchy Cloud, Saturday night.
She's got company, my soul.
And she knows I'm not too lover.
But she lets me down every time.
Can't make her smile.
She's no one's lover tonight.
I'm so sorry.
art bell
It's in the middle part of the country now.
Happy New Year all across the middle U.S. The Millennium is here.
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast A.M., and there's a big, big party going on out there, let me tell you.
unidentified
Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
First-time callers may rechart at 1-775-727-1222.
And the wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
To rechart on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
This is Coast to Coast AM with Arcel from the Kingdom of Thai.
art bell
Interesting time to be alive, isn't it?
It's here, and it's coming to where I am shortly.
In the Midwest and the East Coast now, you're in a new millennium.
How does it feel?
Do you feel any different?
So far, so good.
Y2K-wise, a few Minor glitches thus far.
And for those of you who think I might be disappointed that there's not more, I'm not, I could not be happier.
And if you prepared for Y2K, good for you.
Stay prepared because there are interesting times ahead.
As far as the new millennium is concerned, so far, boy, I'm telling you, so good.
All across the world, it's been pretty smooth.
We'll see what happens first day back at business.
At any rate, we're going to kind of wing it for the rest of the show.
We may bring in a few people that we know here and there to have a word or two with you.
But we're going to continue taking predictions, of course, as we roll out the final opportunity to make predictions for this new year.
Then we close out the list of predictions, and, of course, we review them as I'm about to review some in a few moments for you made last year for 1999.
Batting record, so-so.
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If you're not on the internet yet and maybe you've got a computer for Christmas, well, why don't you start out the right way and you'll not be disappointed with the way things are?
unidentified
Hmm?
art bell
The way you can do that is by joining Mindspring, as I have done.
If you want to email me, that's how you do it.
I'm Art Bell at MindSpring.com.
Why am I there?
Because they have good, fast connections, because they've got friendly people, because they've got spaminator.
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It's a toll-free number.
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They're open right now, this minute.
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That's 1-800-522-8863.
The Cream Company.
Now, let's see.
I've got a couple of other things that I've got to get done.
This is confusing.
All of these hours have got so many hours.
Eight hours we're going to be on the air tonight.
But I'm glad to be here.
unidentified
And now the CEO for BuyItNow.com.
Hello.
Where's our guys?
art bell
All right, let me see if I can decipher my own handwriting, and we'll look at a few of the other predictions made.
Let's see.
Number 30 made in 1998 for 1999 was terrorism from Iraq in 99.
I'm going to put a question mark because that is a question mark.
We never know, do we?
Number 31 is Hillary runs for president.
Bonk, but close.
Close, but no cigar.
Sorry about that.
I couldn't resist.
Close but no cigar.
She's running for the Senate, apparently.
Number 32, we will all finally receive pay for our widgets, our money back for our widgets.
Remember the widget guy?
Well, Bonk, we have not, although he tried to contact me recently, and I said, well, have you followed through on your promise?
And I get nothing in return.
On number 33, Area 51 is found to be nothing but a smokescreen.
Bonk, it's still there, and it's still doing its thing.
Number 30, in fact, if anything, we kind of dug up a little piece of proof here recently with the telephone adage we had.
Remember that?
We've got that document up there.
Go look yourself.
It says Area 51 along with Perumpt, a little of Las Vegas.
Number 34 was invasion of the Middle East by the USA.
Bonk, we did Not do that.
In fact, things are looking rather peaceful over there at the moment.
Number 35, an entire family of Bigfoot.
Or would it be big feet or big foots would be discovered?
Well, either way, bonk.
unidentified
Wrong.
art bell
Number 36: The air war with Iraq continues all year long.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
art bell
Ding.
A big ding on that one.
Number 37.
Our blessed Constitution to be done away with.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
That one's made every year, and sure enough, the Constitution remains in full force.
Number 38, Y2K, a general fizzle.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
art bell
So far.
All right.
Somebody caught that one, I think.
We'll know more about that next week.
Now, number 39, Air Force One will crash.
Bonk.
It did not crash.
Although, it had a close encounter.
A very close encounter.
Number 40, a major city destroyed by a weapon of mass destruction.
Well, we've got a little time to go yet, but so far, bonk.
And we're going to leave that as a hopeful bonk.
Now, let me see.
Number 41 is Harley-Davidson.
Somebody's going to buy Harley-Davidson.
Now, I'm going to have to put a question mark by that.
I don't think anybody's bought Harley, but I heard something about Harley.
I can't recall what it was.
Number 42, Star Trek, the final year for Star Trek.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
Star Trek is never going to end.
Star Trek will go on all our lives.
Number 43, a change in our constitution.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
No change that I know of, unless you consider the continued erosion of it, perhaps.
A number 44, Y2K, the media event of the year.
Well, now, that's a different story.
Even if the ding I gave as the general fizzle is true, was it the story of the year?
At the beginning of the year, it certainly was.
Later on, not.
So I'm giving that a ding and a bonk.
It was kind of both.
And then 45, and I'll stop here for a while, the prophecy or a prophecy, no, a single prophecy of Edgar Casey comes true.
I think that's a bonk, but I don't know.
I would have to talk to the Casey Foundation.
I'm putting a question mark by that one.
Maybe some of you can help me out.
So there you have it, and we will continue to go through the list from last year shortly.
But I will now commence to take new predictions.
And I will resume that at number 44.
So if you have a prediction to make when you call with whatever you want to say, I will record it, assign it a number.
Remember, you can make only one prediction.
It can only be made on the phones, not by email, not by fax, not by carrier pigeon.
You've got to make it here on the phones so everybody can hear it.
On my international line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Calling from Israel.
art bell
Israel.
unidentified
The sun is up here.
Birds are singing.
My electricity still works.
art bell
And the world has continued.
unidentified
Yes, just as I sort of expected.
art bell
What time, sir, is it now in Israel?
unidentified
It is 8.19 here.
art bell
8.19 in the morning.
unidentified
In the morning.
art bell
And that would be on Saturday morning, right?
unidentified
Saturday morning.
art bell
Okay, so what do you think is going to happen, though, when we get to the business day?
unidentified
Well, that's interesting you bring that up because Israel has the work week.
It starts with Sunday and ends with Friday.
We have our weekend on Friday and Saturday, not Saturday and Sunday.
art bell
So in other words, you're going to find out a little early.
You're going to find out early.
unidentified
Yeah, we'll be the first country in the world that starts their business week, as I understand it.
art bell
Uh-huh.
I'm sorry, where in Israel are you?
unidentified
I'm calling from a place called Beersheva, or on the maps you find it at Beersheba.
art bell
Okay?
unidentified
The negative desert, the southern half of the country.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
My climate here is like yours in Perim.
art bell
We're both in the desert.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
And we both have things buried in the desert, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
You're going to sense right.
art bell
Yes, I know.
Well, it's great to hear from Israel on this night.
And I watched the Middle East celebrations.
And thank God or Allah or whoever you want to thank, it all seemed to go peacefully well.
unidentified
Yes.
I prepared for Y2K.
I was one of the only people I knew who was preparing.
Although it turns out, reading the newspaper the past day or two, a lot of other people have been secretly preparing as well.
And I had neighbors over.
The clock struck midnight.
The light stayed on.
They all turned and looked at me like, you chicken little, you, the sky did not fall.
But we'll see.
Another couple days we'll see if I was right or not.
art bell
That's right.
I think a lot of people are concluding because it's going well at midnight, that means it's going to go well.
Well, Y2K is not going to be over, and we can't really sigh relief until days, if not weeks, have passed.
unidentified
Yes, I've realized that.
art bell
Well, listen.
If something really weird happens there, like a giant snowstorm, you call me for sure.
unidentified
Oh, all right.
This is the realm of possibility.
We're having a terrible drought here.
It's two years in a row here in the desert.
We haven't had enough rain to germinate annual seeds.
art bell
I know.
unidentified
In the desert, it usually blooms in the winter, just like the winter rains you have there.
art bell
I know.
The world's weather, sir, without question, is in the middle of a change.
I don't think anybody's arguing about that one anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
All right, well, listen, wonderful.
unidentified
I just want to tell you, I don't know many other people here in Israel that listen to you, but I was in the States in 97, driving around on a great tour I took with my daughter.
I would listen to you at night while we were driving great distances.
You changed our lives here.
You had Philip Carsto on then.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And light bulbs went off all over the place in my head as I heard him explaining transistors and optical fibers and mylar and all this stuff.
all of it made so much sense all of a sudden.
The world hasn't been the same since I listened to that show in July.
art bell
He was an amazing man.
There's no question about it.
An amazing man.
unidentified
I wanted to thank you.
art bell
It was a real honor to have.
I had more hours of interview of Colonel Corso than anybody in the American media or the media anywhere for that matter.
Thank you so much, sir.
unidentified
I just want to let you know the world keeps turning and the sun will come up soon where you are too.
art bell
Good night, and good luck to you in Israel.
You know, this is a really good night, by the way, for the international line.
So I guess I ought to plug that, huh?
If you would like to reach us from any exotic spot in the world and give us your report, the way you do it is get hold of the AT ⁇ T operator and then have her call 800-893-0903.
Now, I realize that Canadians can call that line, but if Canadians would sort of leave that alone and come in on one of the other lines tonight, we'll try and see what parts of the world we're able to hear from.
Now, Israel is a pretty good start.
So if you're out there in the middle of wherever, South Africa, Asia, up late listening to the program, get hold of the AT ⁇ D operator and give us a call, 800-893-0903.
What's to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
gordon michael scallion
Air Force veteran dittos to you.
art bell
Oh, well, ditto's to you, sir.
unidentified
Prediction, sir.
art bell
All right, number 44, it shall be.
gordon michael scallion
The hope will expire, unfortunately.
art bell
I fear you may be right, but you know, you've got to give it to him.
I think, as I said last night, sheer willpower seems to have kept him alive to the year 2000.
He wanted to see it.
He wanted to see it.
gordon michael scallion
I think that was fantastic.
unidentified
Just willpower.
art bell
Yep.
I mean, you could see the man is as frail as a man can be and still be alive.
And it's a testament to the willpower of man.
Oh, yes, sir.
I put your prediction down.
gordon michael scallion
Thank you, sir.
art bell
Thank you.
And take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified
Hi.
gordon michael scallion
Hi.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
art bell
Yes.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Okay.
Hold it.
art bell
Yes, holding while you do that.
unidentified
Let me turn it off.
Yes.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Who's this?
art bell
What's your best guess?
Are you art, Bell?
Is that your final answer?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
No, I'm Harry.
unidentified
All right.
All right, Harry.
art bell
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you two.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
Um, I wanted to talk to art.
Well, this is art.
It is art?
Yes.
art bell
A little harried, but art.
Turn off the radio.
unidentified
He said, turn off the radio.
art bell
Yeah, come on, turn off the radio.
unidentified
You know who did that?
Yeah.
Ken Sander.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, do you know him?
art bell
Bad Ken Sander.
Bad.
unidentified
Bad Sander.
art bell
Anyway, Listen, we don't have a lot of time, so what's on your mind?
unidentified
He keeps telling it.
Okay, um, well, Ken wanted me to ask you if you know him.
art bell
No.
unidentified
You don't?
No.
He says he doesn't know you.
Okay, that was it, huh?
Well, pretty much.
art bell
All right, well, I appreciate your call.
Thank you.
Do I know somebody?
Ken Sander, not that I know of.
I'm still kind of thinking that in New York where the ball came down, it was kind of a mericana.
I mean, the ball came down with all these tetrahedral, swirling things, and when it came down, it looked like it came down right over the Discover card sign.
unidentified
And I thought, yeah, that's us.
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on there.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
This is Ron from Nevada City.
art bell
Hi, Ron.
unidentified
And, excuse me, I've got to pull my headphone out.
art bell
Yes, you do.
unidentified
It's the same radio thing.
No feedback, but definitely brain confusing him.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much.
Happy New Year.
art bell
And you.
unidentified
And I want to really praise you for hanging in there and giving us the truth as you see it throughout these times, or at least giving the people the opportunity to present what they see.
art bell
It's just a big open forum.
unidentified
That's it, yeah.
And that's the only way we're going to find out the truth is if we're given the information to figure it all out with.
art bell
Do you want to make a prediction?
richard c hoagland
Yes, I do.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Number of questions.
It has to do with part of your problem of being a media person and presenting the truth.
People are going to take potshots at you, so to speak, with propaganda and such.
I think the whole Heaven's Gate Obop thing was a perfect example of that.
I know.
Misinformation and really casting doubt upon you.
art bell
You must have read the Denver Post article.
unidentified
No, I didn't.
Oh, long term listeners.
art bell
You ought to read it then.
It's on the website now.
It's a real winner.
It's not a pot shot.
It's like a shotgun blast.
unidentified
Okay.
Let's longtime listeners know your stance on that.
No, you had nothing to do with that.
It was just something that was thrown at you.
So what I predict is going to happen here in the year 2000 is that the real truth about Halebop is going to come out.
And I actually think that probably you and the major might be the ones to be the media or the forum to present that truth.
art bell
All right, sir.
I appreciate the call.
Thank you.
We've got to go.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
AMA 40, AXNT.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, here we are in Times Square, and the ball is dropping as we speak.
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Attention in the Turn of the Leader Road, love to hear perfection, turn it upside down, love to hear first cutscenes, love to hear it.
Oh, holding yourself pretty much moving to the next day.
art bell
Wow, they want it's a big party going on out there.
Really big party.
unidentified
Take a ride.
Well, call our bell from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
First time collars may recharge at 1-775-727-1222.
The wildcard line is open at 1775-727-1295.
art bell
And to recharge on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
unidentified
This is Coast to Coast AM with ourselves on the Premier Radio Network.
art bell
Would be up.
Good morning, everybody.
About an hour and 25 minutes until it's new millennium here on the West Coast.
However, coming up in about 25 minutes, now less.
The Mountain Time Zone is going to greet the new Millennium.
Are you all ready?
There in Denver and elsewhere?
I guess parts of Utah, I guess I'd have to look at a map, but the Mountain Time Zone coming up in about now 24 minutes as the Millennium is racing across the U.S. I'm Mark Bell, and this is an extended version of Coast to Coast AM.
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All right, my wife Ramona has made a prediction, which I am recording as prediction number 46.
I'll tell you, I'll choke if she gets a ding on this one.
She is predicting for the Super Bowl coming up: the St. Louis Rams versus, get this, Kansas City.
And she predicts Kansas City wins the Super Bowl.
Any of you making bets based on her prediction should not address me when they lose their money.
They should write email to Ramona Bell at my email address.
Actually, don't any of you go out and bet based on this at Kansas City?
You know, it's not that I don't like Kansas City because I do.
No, that's not true.
I really don't like Kansas City because I have lost more money betting on.
You see, we can bet out here, and every time I bet on Kansas City to win, they lose.
Every time I bet on them to lose, they've got this great big, great, big defensive and offensive fraud.
Those guys are monstrous.
It's like, anyway, they always foul me up.
I actually had a dream that I was, I'll tell you about that dream later.
I was on the Kansas City team at the, it was incredible, but she is predicting Kansas City to win Super Bowl.
Number 46.
We'll see.
In the meantime, here's a voice you'll recognize, somebody to wish you a good happy new year.
He is about, let's see, 17 and one-half minutes away from the new millennium, sweeping across the mountain upon which he perches.
Richard C. Augustine.
Hey, Richard.
richard c hoagland
Good morning, Art, and good morning, America, and Happy New Year to everyone.
art bell
Oh, indeed.
richard c hoagland
Actually, we extend beyond the confines of the continent of the United States, you know, north to the pole and south and west and all that stuff.
And it's really astonishing because if you sat and watched any of the coverage today on ABC or CNN, it really felt like a planet aren't together.
It really was one.
And everybody's saying, oh, we're making this a big deal of a trivial date change.
It's arbitrary anyway.
If we have time, I want to go into a couple of reasons why apparently it's not arbitrary.
But the thing that came across today was everybody kind of, I mean, the last time I saw an event like this, it was in the control room with 42 screens sitting behind Cronkite, watching Neil and Buzz and those guys land on the moon because the planet was one doing one thing, thinking one thought.
art bell
You're right.
richard c hoagland
And that other thought today was, we're all diverse, we're all different, but we're really all fundamentally the same.
I mean, it was extraordinary.
Absolutely extraordinary to watch this.
And tomorrow morning, for those who missed it, apparently Sam Donaldson on ABC from 8 to 11 Eastern Time is going to have three hours of the highlights, the best of the best of the transition today.
art bell
Did you see the Eiffel Tower?
richard c hoagland
Yes, with Barbara sitting in front of it.
art bell
It was absolutely astounding.
unidentified
Yes.
richard c hoagland
Amazing.
When you consider that that thing was supposed to come to the United States originally.
art bell
That's true, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
And then I really love the New York Ball going down and hitting the Discover card sign.
richard c hoagland
Oh, don't get me started on the New York Ball.
If you go to our website, Enterprise Mission, or you go through arts, to me tonight as a guest, you will see a close-up set of images of the Waterford Crystal New York Times Square 2000 Taylor Ball, all six feet of it.
It was composed of nothing but redundant tetrahedron.
And there were 504 of those little rotating suckers on the surface.
art bell
It was really awesome.
richard c hoagland
I mean, I've got video.
They've been doing kind of tests the last couple of days, and the Fox had some really good close-ups.
And these things are spinning their little hearts out.
And, of course, the whole thing is called the Seven-Rayed Star of Hope.
Well, as we say in the web piece, which if you go to it, it's the official hyperdimensional New Year new post we have up there at the top.
There's no doubt in anybody's mind, there can be no doubt that whoever planned these ceremonies is totally plugged into this whole idea of the hyperdimensional tetrahedral Sirius celebration, because the star was meant to represent the star Sirius.
And if you look at the Tarot, anybody who's a Taro expert out there in the audience, go to a pack of Taro cards, and you will see that there is a Taro deck which has the star, as a seven-rate star of hope.
And it's called Thoth, T-H-O-T-H, which was the Egyptian god of wisdom and writing and academics and knowledge and all that.
Supposed to have built and constructed the Great Pyramid as part of the Egyptian mythos.
So, even though we didn't have the crowning of the Great Pyramid with the capstone, you know, of Zahi's gold capstone.
art bell
You know, earlier tonight, Richard, I heard an explanation about why they wouldn't let him do that.
And they said, and I don't believe, that they were afraid they would damage the pyramid.
richard c hoagland
Oh, come on.
art bell
Oh, what a bunch of crap.
Now, I was at the pyramid.
They weren't going to damage the pyramid.
And if they did, they would have fixed it.
richard c hoagland
Well, but you can't really damage it because there is, as you know, this big iron spike fixed, yellow tripod up in the center, which goes to the presumed height.
It kind of is a lightning rod, which sticks up to where the 480-some-feet pyramid would come to an apex to a point.
And they had planned this thing.
I think it was an aluminum superstructure, and it was covered with gold foil, and it was going to be lowered by a helicopter with some lasers for positioning, and guys up there would carefully set it down.
So, I mean, it's not, no, no, that was not the reason.
The real reason is somehow lost in the labyrinth of this secret stuff that's going on beneath the surface we're not supposed to know about.
art bell
Well, Gordon Michael Scallion spent a good part of three hours telling us about what's below, and there is a lot below, and it's about to be discovered and or already has been.
richard c hoagland
Well, you know what's so extraordinary, and of course, I did listen in amongst you know, doing a bunch of other stuff here tonight to Gordon.
The station we normally get that comes from Tennessee, TRN through satellite, did not carry you in the first three hours.
art bell
Right, well.
richard c hoagland
So I had to pick you up with, you know, the old-fashioned AM radio on KOB here in Albuquerque.
unidentified
It works.
richard c hoagland
There's a big mountain between me and KOB, and I have been replacing all our lamps with fluorescent, you know, just to save energy.
art bell
So you have noise.
richard c hoagland
Well, unless I position the radio just right and stand on one foot and kind of point my head towards the south.
Anyway, I was able to hear, and it was extraordinary what Stallion was saying, which comes, as you know, from his visions and his sources, and what we have figured out from the science and the due diligence and the elbow grease.
And there's an extraordinary overlay art.
I was absolutely fascinated.
And in the coming weeks and months, as we do these things, as we get ready and post things on the web, people will be able to see a remarkable correlation between some of the things Estalia was saying tonight and some of the real history that we are unearthing as part of the Enterprise Science Do-It-By the Numbers research.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Listen, Richard, wonderful having you here.
The new millennium is about to crash upon your head there.
Would you like to make a prediction for the year 2000?
richard c hoagland
A prediction.
art bell
Yeah, sure.
richard c hoagland
Well, given the fact that we can now substantiate that this year is not arbitrary.
In other words, everyone thinks, and getting into calendar stuff tonight would be much too complicated, but go to the web and take a look at that tetrahedral ball in Times Square.
We can now document that the actual positioning in time of the 2000-2001 transition was carefully calculated and was part of Pope Gregory's 1582 Reformation of the calendar.
There is a Russian website, which is linked now to our website.
There's a couple of Russian investigators named A.T. Flomenko.
art bell
This is a Hoagland prediction, all right.
richard c hoagland
And G. V. Nozyovsky.
art bell
Nostyovsky.
Oh, by the way, continue, Richard.
richard c hoagland
Well, they believe that there's about 400 years of made-up history that they have discovered that's been kind of cloned in terms of modern history books looking back at the history of Europe, particularly the history of England.
art bell
Figures.
richard c hoagland
And the question would be, why would you make up 400 years?
And they actually believe it was pulled from the Byzantine Empire.
art bell
Oh, I know the answer to that.
And they tried to cover up what happened during that 400 years.
richard c hoagland
Well, among other things, but also to cover up the fact that the calendar was off by something like 400 years.
Now, how can a calendar be off?
If timekeeping is arbitrary, there's no way it could be off.
In other words, at some point you start the clock and you just keep rolling, right?
art bell
Right.
richard c hoagland
Well, but suppose there is a bigger clock.
Suppose there is an absolute clock.
Suppose there's a fundamental clock like the atomic clock at Boulder, to use an analogy.
art bell
The new one.
richard c hoagland
The new one.
And that you have a watch, and you discover somewhere, some week, some day, that your watch is off, let's say, by four hours compared to the absolute clock.
And you reset your watch to be synchronized, but then you have to make up a story for what happened in those four hours.
art bell
Yeah, I see.
richard c hoagland
So that's what the Russians think has gone on.
And what's interesting is that we came to the same conclusion from a totally different route.
Last year, we've been quietly looking at this in terms of our good old computer program, Redshift.
And we discovered that the clock, the absolute clock, had to do with the positioning of the star Sirius, critical in the Egyptian mythology, on the meridian at Eza, at midnight, as the century changed.
art bell
And so, that I don't break into tears, your prediction is?
richard c hoagland
The next year, between 2000 and 2001, when the real millennium transitions, all kinds of absolutely extraordinary revelations are going to come falling out of the closet.
And they began tonight with this overtly hyperdimensional tetrahedral sphere lowered representing the star Sirius in Times Square to kick it off.
art bell
All right, Richard.
True, even down to your prediction.
You're incredible.
Thank you, Richard, and we'll do a show soon, of course.
richard c hoagland
Happy New Year, everybody.
art bell
Take care, my friend.
And he is now about, as you are in the mountain time zones, nigh on to about seven and one-half minutes away from the millennium as it continues to flash across our continent.
Not just America, but Canada and the Americas generally.
It is a very exciting time.
Boy, I'll tell you, just nothing but good news so far.
Lots of partying.
No lights going out.
No crashing, no terrorist actions that I can see.
Absolutely nothing.
I mean, a really good thing is happening.
And let us all cross our fingers and see that it continues to happen.
On the international line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Yes.
My name's David.
unidentified
I'm in Osaka right now.
art bell
Osaka, Japan.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
How you doing, David?
unidentified
I'm doing fine.
art bell
So far, so good.
Let's see now.
It's been the new millennium in Osaka for quite a while.
Quite a while.
unidentified
It's 4 p.m.
art bell
4 in the afternoon now.
Yes.
Are you getting any local reports there in Osaka?
unidentified
No, I have not heard anything.
I was just talking to a gentleman that was on his way to Los Angeles, and he's heard of some ATMs going down, but I'm not sure if he meant in the United States or over here.
art bell
Well, I can tell you that there in Japan, there were a couple of minor incidents at nuclear plants.
Oh, there were.
Yes, there were.
unidentified
Can you be a little more explicit on that?
art bell
Well, if I could find it, nothing serious, nothing that would cause them to shut down, but I think a couple of sensors or something or another due to Y2K quit working.
And wait a minute here.
Let me see if I can find it.
I'm sure you'd be.
Yeah, here it is.
Let's see.
It says, the anticipated first bite from the Y2K bug was barely felt Saturday as computers around the world suddenly made the transition from 1999 to 2000.
Lights stayed on in Asia and Eastern Russia's nuclear plants ran without a hitch.
In Japan, the failure of a computer linked to a nuclear plant monitoring device wasn't considered serious enough to shut the plant down, but they say it's still too early to assess the impact.
So there is a little something there in Japan.
unidentified
Interesting.
Well, I'm about to get on a 747 headed for Detroit.
art bell
Going to Detroit, huh?
unidentified
Yes, we came over here.
I'm with the Vand Kansas, and we played on a military base on New Year's Eve.
art bell
You're with the Vand Kansas?
unidentified
I am not in the band.
I'm the lighting director and the keyboard technician.
art bell
Well, have you enjoyed your trip to Japan?
unidentified
I certainly have.
I wish I could have spent more time in Japan, but we came over Friday, so I've just spent a lot of time on aircraft and saw some airports.
art bell
Well, have you noticed the prices there?
The prices?
Yes, the prices of when I buy things.
unidentified
I inquired about gasoline, about $1.20 a gallon.
art bell
About $1.20 a gallon?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Well, that's not bad at all.
unidentified
Not bad at all.
They also do something interesting over here as far as your vehicles.
You pay taxes on your vehicles according to the displacement of the engine.
In other words, the more it pollutes, the more you pay.
art bell
The bigger the engine, the more you pay?
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
Well, I don't know how I feel about that.
unidentified
Well, I wouldn't enjoy that either.
I have an 81 Camaro, Z28.
art bell
You do?
My wife has a Camaro.
I've got a Firebird TransAm Firebird.
Oh, what year?
98.
unidentified
98, yeah.
Mine's an 81.
art bell
The midnight blue or black, almost blue-black color, it really is.
Oh, they are.
But they displays a lot.
unidentified
Well, I've got to get on this airplane.
It leaves in 15 minutes.
I've been a longtime listener of your show, and I just read your book, your book you wrote with Whitley Striever.
art bell
Oh, you must have bought that before you left.
unidentified
I bought that in Florida.
I was in West Palm Beach visiting family for Christmas.
And it's an excellent book, very interesting reading.
art bell
Thank you very much.
It is.
And take care.
From Japan.
All right.
Well, listen here, everybody, in the mountain time zone.
You've got about, I don't know, about three minutes, and the new millennium is going to come roaring across the Rockies.
That's my wife, and I think she's getting in the picture.
Wait a minute.
Let me ensure that she gets into the picture.
There you are.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
We just took one.
That's Ramona.
Kansas City, are you kidding?
Kansas State.
I mean, I could...
Kansas City, maybe.
But Kansas City prevailing?
Good luck, everybody out there following that one.
All right, folks, we'll be right back.
From the high desert to the world, this is Coast to Coast AM.
You know it don't come easy.
unidentified
You don't want me to live.
art bell
AMA 40, KXNT.
unidentified
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art bell
Need to be North Los Bank, where we not only bring you the best local news, we bring you the world.
unidentified
Six, five, four, three, two.
And here, the fireworks, Utah took its lumps in 1999 with the Olympic scandal.
And a lot of people are hoping to put that behind them and move ahead.
But mostly right now, just a great big party in downtown Salt Lake City.
Now back to CBS News quarters fond of Dan Ravine in Times Square.
Rick Lindsay live in Salt Lake City.
Now to NORAD, the Air Defense Command, not normally open to visitors there in Colorado, CBS News reporter Lee Frank with a live report.
American and Russian military officers who 10 hours ago shared celebrating midnight Moscow time now together commemorate midnight U.S. Mountain time.
Former superpower enemies are sitting side by side, sharing information about any long-range missile launches to avoid any millennium misunderstanding.
The U.S. Air Force checking more than 60 bases worldwide has found four minor problems.
The most critical time for military systems was seven hours ago, zero hours Greenwich meantime.
But concerns will continue through the rest of the time zone rollovers and for days to come in the new year 2000.
Live at Peterson Air Force Base, Colorado, Lee Frank, CBS News.
President Clinton led the celebrations in Washington.
If we want the story of the 21st century to be the triumph of peace and harmony, we must embrace our common humanity and our shared destiny.
There on the mall, CBS News White House correspondent Peter Mayer took it all in.
This massive fireworks display is the finale to Washington's national New Year's party.
The red, white, and blue rockets flare is turning night into day in the first hour of the year 2000.
It's what President Clinton calls the dawning of the new millennium.
Many people in this party crowd say it's a rare moment to celebrate, to ponder the past, and consider the future of a new century.
Peter Mayer, CBS News at the Lincoln Memorial.
On the West Coast, about 58 minutes till midnight, let's go live to CBS News Los Angeles correspondent David Dow on the Paramount lots.
David?
It may be the eve of a new millennium here, but it has the feel of a Hollywood premiere replete with searchlights in the sky.
A black tie crowd is gathered in the historic Paramount studios to await a huge light and laser show at what may be this city's best-known landmark, the Hollywood sign.
There are city-sponsored celebrations at five other sites where thousands will watch the show on giant television screens.
Rain has kept down the crowd somewhat, but not the enthusiasm.
With more on the nation's celebration, here again is Bam Ravine.
David Dowell, live in Los Angeles.
Here's an ironic Y2K computer glitch.
The nation's official timekeeper, the U.S. Naval Observatory, on its website, reported the date, the year 1910.
They fixed it now.
From Times Square, New York, this is CBS News.
Excuse me.
art bell
The San Guenas Diaz to the new century in Puerto Rico, reporter Gary Twellman and a CBS affiliate WOSL in San Juan says some people are celebrating the new year by living dangerously.
unidentified
What goes up must come down.
That's been the real fear here in several neighborhoods as people fired off hundreds of rounds of bullets into the air to welcome in the new year.
So far, no reports of injuries that could come later.
In the Capitol San Juan, the celebration of thousands of revelers not at all dampened as the rain began to pour just at midnight.
And what many are surprised at, there have been no Y2K rollover problems.
Don't bother wishing San Francisco artist and writer Dwayne Neutron a happy new millennium.
He and about a dozen other folks took to the streets of San Francisco to protest what he says is millennium height.
Neutron says the millennium doesn't really begin until next year.
Besides, the whole calendar thing is entirely arbitrary.
art bell
He says this Y2K hoopla doesn't make people spend and drink too much.
I'm Sam Litzinger, CBS News.
To make this commercial...
unidentified
First when there's nothing But a slow-flowing dream That your fear seems to hide Deep inside your mind Alone I have
pride Silence is full of pride In a world made of steel Made of stone
art bell
Where I hear the music Love my eyes Feel the rhythm Wrap around the cover of my heart Less than one hour now And the millennium passes right over my head And there is a feeling out there, isn't there?
Worldwide, across this country and across the whole world The whole world It's going to be a wild one And we're going to be here all night long Want to take a ride?
unidentified
Call our bell from west of the Rockies At 1-800-618-8255 East of the Rockies 1-800-825-5033 First time callers may reach out at 1-775-727-1222 Mobile card line is open at 1-775-727-1295 And to call out on the toll-free international line Call your AT&T operator And have them dial
art bell
800-893-0903 Coast AM with ourselves from the Kingdom of Nine.
We are taking predictions for 2000.
If you want to make one, come on ahead and listen.
If you're outside the country, way far away somewhere, we've got a special...
Pentagon reports temporary communications problem.
CNN's area.
unidentified
Now, what's this?
art bell
Pentagon reporting a temporary communications problem with what?
With who?
Now they're not smiling as much on CNN.
unidentified
What's going on?
Hmm.
art bell
The Pentagon is reporting some sort of communication problem.
And I don't know what that means, but they're looking fairly serious about it there.
Whatever it is.
Well, here we are anyway, whatever it is that is happening.
We'll get word to you shortly.
If you're outside the country and you would like to report how it's going out there, we have a special number for you, and we are asking tonight Canadians to come in on the east or the west of the Rockies line, which you can use, leaving the international line open for great distance.
And that number, you call the AT ⁇ T operator and have her call 800-893-0903.
Now, what's this?
I see they're clapping.
That's good, I guess.
800-893-0903.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hey, Art.
unidentified
This is Tyler in Oregon.
art bell
How you doing?
unidentified
I'm doing pretty good, man.
art bell
How about you?
Just fine.
unidentified
All right.
I'd like to make the predictions that I think World War III is going to break out.
art bell
World War III?
Yeah.
During this next year.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
During this year, I guess I had it.
Well, it's not this year here yet.
Why do you think that's going to happen?
unidentified
Well, just how everything is going right now, man.
Just look at it.
China giving us that Panama Canal and all this, man.
art bell
Well, the Panama Canal, wrenching as it was to give it up, it went smoothly.
China is going to have some sort of contract to run it.
I don't much like that.
I'm a little concerned about Mr. Yeltsin, you know, chucking it in right at the millennium.
So, all right, I'll put you down.
That's clear.
World War III.
On the international line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
How are you doing tonight?
art bell
Pretty good.
Where are you?
unidentified
I don't know.
I heard a sort of happy announcement of I'm calling from Saskatchewan.
I hope that's far enough.
art bell
Well, I was kind of trying to hold the international line open for beyond, but I'll take your call.
unidentified
Oh, well, thank you.
art bell
You're welcome.
unidentified
Am I calling from Saskatoon?
art bell
Saskatoon.
unidentified
Yes.
We had no problems up here, and everything seems to be going off without anything.
art bell
Can you say Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, three times fast?
unidentified
Yeah, I can.
art bell
Let me hear it.
unidentified
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
art bell
All right, fine.
unidentified
Did I pass one?
art bell
I couldn't do it.
Yeah, you passed that one, but now I've got one you can't do, I bet.
It's even easier.
And you're going to fall all over yourself.
You ready?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I want it three times fast.
unidentified
All righty.
Unique New York.
art bell
Well, anyway, you got your own country, right?
unidentified
Excellent.
art bell
All right, number 49, if you want to make a prediction.
unidentified
I sure do.
Okay.
I didn't hear the earlier part of this show because our person up here doesn't carry it.
But I'm going to say there's going to be a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India this year.
art bell
Yeah, that's possible.
unidentified
Well, I would say that's probably probable.
In fact, you know, there's so much tension there right now with this last little hijacking incident.
I would say it's the powder cake waiting to happen.
art bell
I got you.
I don't like it, but I got you.
All right, you're down.
unidentified
What number was I again?
art bell
Number 49.
unidentified
Excellent.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Thank you very much, sir.
art bell
Thank you for the call.
And I would just ask that the Canadians free up the international line so that the Israels and the Japans and the Malaysias and the Australias and so forth can get through.
Because there are a lot of you, I know, to the north in Canada.
You can use the other lines, incidentally.
International Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
All right.
Sorry to call you.
I'm calling you from Canada, but if you're keeping an eye on CNN, they just came through with a report out of the Pentagon that they're having some Y2K problems at the Pentagon with their military intelligence system.
That just came on the air about five minutes ago.
art bell
Their military intelligence system?
unidentified
Correct.
And Bernard Shaw, I think that's his name.
art bell
Yes, Bernie Shaw.
unidentified
Who's on the CNN?
Asked the reporter from the Pentagon, don't you think it's rather odd for this sort of thing to appear?
And they couldn't give any response, but I just wanted to phone you to let you know that that just happened right now.
They didn't specify what was going on, but Bernard did that.
It seemed that this is happening tonight.
And given last night with our President Yeltsin resigning coincidentally, and now is this report?
Happy evening.
art bell
Yeah, thank you.
Same to you.
Of all the people to be having a problem, you know, we expected private sector problems, but good Lord, the Pentagon was the one that you would expect they would have down cold, and it's the first source of a big report of a problem.
Well, it may be an interesting evening yet.
Why would they report it?
Why would the Pentagon report that, do you think?
That's the kind of thing you would think they would not report.
I sure hope it's not a problem in communication with the new setup they've got going to Russia.
They're showing scenes now on CNN of Boise Idaho, kaboom, kaboom, as the mountain states, the mountain time zone states, celebrate like crazy.
East of the Rockies, you're on air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hi.
Is this our pelvis?
It is.
unidentified
Good morning.
gordon michael scallion
I've been a long time listener.
I've only called once or twice.
How are you today?
art bell
Just fine.
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm from Rochester, New York.
art bell
Rochester, all right?
unidentified
Yep.
gordon michael scallion
And I just called first to wish you a Happy New Year.
I've been listening for a long time.
art bell
Thank you.
gordon michael scallion
And I appreciate the show.
unidentified
Okay.
gordon michael scallion
And I have a prediction for you.
art bell
It will be rounded number 50.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
What is it?
gordon michael scallion
The prediction is that during the upcoming year, wars are going to break out in certain Middle East countries.
And the United States, like they usually do, is going to try to come in to make peace.
But that's just going to cause more problems.
unidentified
And there's going to be turmoil around the world.
gordon michael scallion
But it probably will all be settled.
At least I hope so.
art bell
So wars in the Middle East, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
gordon michael scallion
Okay.
art bell
I appreciate your call, sir, and I hope you're wrong.
unidentified
I hope so, too.
art bell
That wouldn't be something we would want on the Middle East.
We heard from Israel a little bit earlier.
International line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello there.
unidentified
Hello?
Hello?
art bell
Yes, hello there.
unidentified
Hello, is this Art?
art bell
Yes, this is Art.
Where are you calling from?
unidentified
I am calling from Melbourne, Australia.
art bell
Melbourne, Australia.
Well, well, well, well.
The new millennium has been in place down in Melbourne for quite a while now.
unidentified
It is quarter past six in the evening.
art bell
Quarter past six in the evening.
All right, well, listen, what kind of reports are you getting locally in Australia?
How are things going down there?
Is everything smooth?
unidentified
Everything is Y2OK.
art bell
Y2OK.
Everything here was Y2OK until a few minutes ago and we got kind of a worrisome report about the Pentagon.
Maybe it's nothing.
unidentified
I just saw that on CNN.
art bell
Oh, you did.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Doesn't it strike you strange?
There goes the ball I see on CNN hitting the discover card again.
Doesn't it strike you as strange that the Pentagon would be the one reporting problems?
unidentified
It seems a little strange, but I guess I think they just said it was some type of communication problems.
I think that they said temporary communication problems.
Yeah, but what kind of problem, Michael?
Barris, Barris, are you there?
Barris, Boris, what is it?
Who knows anything?
It could be anything.
It could be anything.
But I just wanted to tell you, I've been a big fan.
I've been listening via the internet for a couple of months now, and keep up the good work.
I just love this show.
art bell
All right, my friend.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
Happy New Year.
art bell
Good day, mate.
That's Melbourne, Australia, where it's what's six at night and well into the new year.
Can't hear you, Boris.
Speak up.
unidentified
What did you say is in the air?
art bell
First time calling mine.
you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, hi.
This is Mitch from Columbus, Ohio.
art bell
Hi, Mitch.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Good.
I just wanted to come and let you know that at 12:02 Eastern Time, we lost power here in the west side of Columbus.
art bell
What?
unidentified
And yeah, and it was reported on the news that it was not Y2K reliant or Y2K related.
art bell
The whole west side of Columbus, Ohio?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And it wasn't Y2K related?
unidentified
No, they said it was just an equipment problem.
art bell
Do you personally believe that?
unidentified
No.
art bell
No?
unidentified
No.
But the power has come back on, so they fixed whatever was going on.
art bell
Whatever it was, they either worked around it or whatever.
I wonder how many other areas of the country had sort of failures like that.
unidentified
I don't know, but they got it back on.
It was on for about an hour.
Then it went off for a couple minutes, and then they got it back on again.
Uh-huh.
But it's not due to Y2K according to the power company.
art bell
So they say, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Well, do you want to make a prediction for the year?
unidentified
Well, I predict that our power will go off again a few more times.
art bell
We'll just put down power problems.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call.
Take care, Columbus, huh?
But it's not Y2K related.
Yeah, it occurred at 1202, but it's not Y2K related.
Now, here is something that I do wonder.
How much are we really hearing about?
How much are we really hearing about?
Do I imagine that our media might hold back from us?
No, not our media.
They wouldn't do that, would they?
unidentified
I'm sure they would.
art bell
You bet they would.
I don't know that they're doing that.
I mean, it's been pretty good up until now.
But anybody out there who thinks that the Y2K problematic time is over because we've raced around the world without serious problems so far, you're wrong.
When the world goes back to work again, we're going to get another little bit of a jolt and we're going to find out a whole lot more.
We'll see.
There's somebody on CNN with a Hollywood sign.
At least it's still lit up for now.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Is this our?
Yes, it is.
Extinguish your radio, please.
unidentified
Okay, just saying.
art bell
Holding on for that.
Wherever it is, you are.
You should have that radio close so you can do that right away.
Okay, hey.
All right.
Where are you?
unidentified
This is Brother Billy from Seaside, Oregon.
art bell
Our power just blinked here.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Hi, Brother Billy.
How you doing?
unidentified
Good.
I was calling to let you know that everything seems to be okay so far.
Of course, we haven't hit midnight yet.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
We haven't.
art bell
Did you hear the guy from Columbus?
unidentified
Yes, I did.
art bell
He said the whole part of Columbus lost power at 12.02, and they immediately said it's not Y2K related.
unidentified
Oh, it's just a coincidence.
I do have a prediction I want to give you, but first I want to say I would really like to have you bring on a couple of guests.
Sir Lawrence Gardner, familiar?
art bell
Sir Lawrence Gardner?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
I should know that name, but I don't.
unidentified
He is the genealogist, I guess you would say, for the 33 royal families.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
And I would suggest him and David Hudson agree with him.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
Anyway, the prediction would be that everything being somewhat okay for Y2K, not the big problems that everyone assumed, the economy is going to pretty much soar initially.
We're going to see the stock market go up, might even reach $15,000.
And then, of course, it has to correct itself.
What goes up must go down.
art bell
So a market rise and then a correction.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
How much of a correction?
unidentified
I don't think it'll be as bad as it was in the Depression, but I think you'll see a considerable drop.
Okay, gotcha.
Possibly $15,000 is what it'll go up to.
art bell
Well, that would really be something, wouldn't it?
$15,000.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call, and we'll be right back.
unidentified
The End We get a lot of letters from customers about Preems and PMS.
Here's one from Debbie of California.
art bell
Well, now that is dated copy.
Just a few more days until Y2K.
Well, actually, out here, just a few more minutes.
Actually, and across most of the nation already has occurred.
That's dated copy.
But the concept remains sound.
Of course, I am just over the hill from Las Vegas, Nevada, which is probably going to be the next focus as they come out here to the West Coast.
They're going to look at Las Vegas.
And right now on the strip, man, I'll bet you it is ripping.
And they're going to be showing photographs of that.
There's going to be a lot of people on the strip.
That's going to be a wild time.
Just over the hill from me.
All right, we are taking predictions and doing whatever else.
If you're somewhere far away, get hold of the AT ⁇ T operator and have her call 800-893-0903.
That's 800-893-0903.
And we'll take your comments on what's going on.
Western Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, this is Anthony and Spokane.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, I've been listening to Christian Radio tonight.
art bell
And?
unidentified
They're either angry or kind of bummed.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
I think they wanted their Y2K.
art bell
They wanted trouble.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
art bell
I find that hard to believe.
I mean, I guess there are some religious groups that want trouble and will be saddened if this is not.
You know, I guess some thought, well, you know, God's coming back, He's going to do it now.
unidentified
Well, yeah, you know, Y2K means, you know, imminent rapture to a lot of Christians.
art bell
I always thought that the Bible said that nobody's going to know the time.
You know, and isn't that what Christians really believe, that nobody's going to know when?
unidentified
Yeah, none of these people were saying that they knew the exact time, but they were looking for signs.
You know, it was like just encouragement of imminent deliverance.
art bell
In other words, this could have been one of those moments, but it wasn't, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, and they actually were hinting that it might be necessary to, well, to facilitate it.
art bell
Oh, well, that's really sick.
That's the kind of stuff the FBI is looking at, and I don't believe that's mainstream Christianity at all.
unidentified
These are just callers.
Yeah, they're all.
art bell
Oh, well, see, these are whack jobs.
Absolute whack jobs.
Yeah, and we've done enough that might go wrong by itself without some idiot bringing it on.
unidentified
Yeah, they should have screened those calls now.
art bell
First of all, we appreciate the call, sir.
unidentified
How I fell in love with you.
Oh, it's true.
Oh, I love you.
Oh, I love you.
You showed me how to say exactly what you say in that very special way.
Oh, it's true.
You fell for me too And And when I tried it, I could see you fall from the high desert.
art bell
This is Coast to Coast AM.
Happy New Year in about 31 minutes.
It's going to be our turn out here on the west coast.
unidentified
You taught it to me too exactly what you do.
And now you love me too.
art bell
AMA Porti, K-X-N-T.
unidentified
Look back on your childhood.
Do I want?
Will I want?
Oh, baby, you know what I like.
Shantilly lace and a pretty face and a pony tail hanging mouth.
Wiggling the bog and a giggling talk.
art bell
Make a bugle round.
Boy, think about it.
Our oldies are now really getting old.
unidentified
Wanna take a ride?
Call Art Bell from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033.
First-time callers may reach ART at area code 775-727-1222.
Or call the wildcard line at 775-727-1295.
To talk with ART on the full-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
A wiggle in the walk and a wiggle in the talk.
Making the world go round.
art bell
You know who that was.
unidentified
That was a big bump.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
We are greeting the new year at the new millennium.
And we're doing it all together.
unidentified
And it's kind of neat.
So stick with us.
Pick you up.
art bell
Are we out of the woods entirely yet?
No, not entirely, but things are going pretty well.
The Sanjee DT200V is a really, really, really cool radio.
It's about the size of a pack of cigarettes.
It's black in color, beautiful.
It's got a white digital display.
It operates on two AA batteries and goes and goes and goes and goes until the energizer bunnies on its back with all fours in the air.
I mean, this sucker really goes.
It has the most amazing AM sensitivity for something this size that you've ever seen in your whole life.
It rivals big radios.
It has FM with FM stereo.
It has television audio, channels 2 through 13.
It has 19 memory presets.
You know, it's a shirt pocket kind of radio, but it is in quality.
And normally, it's $64.95, but for the next 23 minutes, you can get it for $54.95.
In fact, you've got to call the Z crane company.
They're going to close at midnight tonight Pacific time.
That's 23 minutes from now.
So you can call and get the Sanjeevan DT 200V right now.
You can get the CZ recorder, all at bargain prices.
You can get the CZ radio, the CC Expedition Lite, the ATS 909, the Beijing Classic Radio, and of course the Zeit Atomic Clock.
All of these things you can get for the next 23 minutes at a bargain price.
When I say a bargain price, I really mean either that or a bargain deal.
They've got something going with everything.
The number to call is 1-800-522-8863.
That's 1-800-522-8863.
The Z-Crane Company.
They're still there, they're up right now, and they await your call.
unidentified
With so many vitamin C's out there, my patients often ask me which one I recommend.
Dr. Ronald Hoffman, physician and nutritionist.
When it comes to vitamin C, the answer is simple.
I recommend Ester C. Vitamin C helps maintain bones, cartilage.
art bell
now, what would the new millennium be without hearing from the pagan side of things?
I know a real witch.
You heard her before.
Her name is Evelyn Paglini, and here she is, Evelyn.
Hi.
evelyn paglini
Hi, and Happy New Year.
art bell
Oh, the very same to you.
Well, you're in California, right?
evelyn paglini
Yeah, we're just about ready.
art bell
About 20 minutes.
evelyn paglini
To bring in the year of the dragon.
art bell
Is that what it's going to be?
The year of the dragon?
evelyn paglini
Yes, it's the year of the dragon.
And you know what, Arpy?
Because it's got a double zero.
I'm looking at it as snake eyes.
I think we better strap ourselves in and get ready for a very bumpy ride.
art bell
I'm going to put that down actually as a prediction.
evelyn paglini
Well, thank you.
art bell
Year of the dragon.
And you think it's going to be a bumpy ride, aren't you?
evelyn paglini
Very much so.
I feel that this winter and spring, the weather severity is going to cost us plenty.
And I also feel that there is going to be a wonderful find that will be uncovered in the Antarctic of an ancient civilization that will tell us a little bit more about our roots.
art bell
You probably mean as the Antarctic continues to melt.
evelyn paglini
That's right.
art bell
All of a sudden, one day they'll look out across the ice and they'll be at the top of a building, a skyscraper.
evelyn paglini
Yeah, absolutely.
I wish, you know, normally the year of the dragon can be very fortunate.
But I'm feeling more chaotic.
I'm feeling people are going to come out and assert themselves, but in a negative, not in a positive way.
And so I'm very worried about this year.
Nothing is going to be in concrete.
It will ship in an instant.
One day will be phenomenal and we'll be very optimistic.
And then you're going to get hit with a thunderbolt.
art bell
Come on.
Ran out of nowhere.
evelyn paglini
Out of nowhere.
So that's why I'm saying strap yourself in.
art bell
Well, I have some of the same feeling, but, you know, as I watched TV earlier tonight, everything was going so smoothly around the world.
evelyn paglini
Oh, yes.
art bell
And to some degree still is.
It felt hopeful.
evelyn paglini
Oh, I want to be optimistic.
I think it's wonderful to see the entire world all at once shake hands to the year 2000.
art bell
Well, I guess that's going to happen, but maybe it's like where fighters shake hands, you know, just before.
evelyn paglini
Just before you come out sparring, yeah.
All right, that's what I'm really worried about.
I'm going to say again, the year of the dragon, fire is going to breed, and the double zero snake eyes.
art bell
Well, I want to thank you for all you have done for me and my family, Ellen.
Thank you.
And I want you to have a wonderful, magical new year.
evelyn paglini
I will, and I wish that to you and your entire audience.
art bell
Okay, thank you.
evelyn paglini
You're welcome.
art bell
Good night.
That's Evelyn Paglini, and she is a real McCoy, a witch.
And so we're sort of spotting the night with people, as you can tell, that we know.
I've got something I want you to hear.
Now, this is the Dana Ray Band.
Do you remember the Dana Ray Band?
They sang a Y2K song.
Remember that?
Remember the Y2K Dana Ray Band song?
Well, the Dana Ray Band has now done, in view of, you know, the way things are going right now, at least most of them, the Dana Ray Band has prepared a special piece for you tonight with a bit of a different slant on things.
And here it is.
unidentified
Why was I so worried about YQK?
Now there's a thousand cans of tuna fish standing in my way.
I'm tripping to the bathroom.
It's like walking through a maze.
Wish I'd never worried about New Year's Day.
It seemed like such a good idea in my mind to stock up on some food and water while you still have time.
You remember that old story, the grasshopper and the ant.
They say the future is hard to see.
Well, I got news you can't.
What the samhill was I thinking?
Was I just paranoid?
Now I'm hunkered in this bunker, trying to avoid.
The awful truth, it's over, and everything's the same.
The jerk that wrote that other song, he's the one I blame.
Why was I worried about why she's gay?
I was betting that the IRS was just gonna go away.
I maxed out on my Visa cards, but I'd never have to pay.
should have had a backup plan for a non-eventful day.
You should know for me found Y2K, but once it seemed like a time exit, it didn't go away.
He prepared for the worst.
It's really sad to say.
The millennium is here and everything's okay.
The world didn't stop on New Year's Day.
Sure glad I bought that generator and a hundred cans of gas.
Paid for it with a rubber check.
Now I feel like such an asteroid's my only prayer, Lord.
Please send one down.
Otherwise, they'll hang my picture up all over town.
The media stirred the people up.
I hope they're happy now.
I quit my job a week ago.
Even called my boss a cow.
My bridges burned, my juices cooked.
I'm screwed in every way.
It's true my world ended on New Year's Day.
Why was I so worried about my choice?
There was a flaw in my theory.
My logic went astray.
My one chance for adventure.
There's no dragons left to slay.
I wasn't the only Airborne fool on New Year's Day.
I don't know.
Why was I so worried about YQK?
The world never really changes, and now there's hell to pay.
The Rebo Man will take my Army's surplus tank away.
I'm changing my identity.
I've got no aces left to play.
It's clear I've had to disappear on New Year's Day.
I know.
I don't even know.
See, I was deducted by the Greys.
Hey, buddy, want to buy a barely used bazooka?
art bell
That is the Dana Ray band, and that is their After the Fact song.
Of course, they sang a very different tune, so to speak, during this last year, which we played any number of times.
And that is their New Year's Day retraction.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, how are you doing, Art?
art bell
Okay, sir.
unidentified
This is Robert in Boulder, Colorado.
art bell
Hi, Robert.
unidentified
And it's a pretty uneventful night down here.
art bell
So far, so good, pretty much.
unidentified
Yeah, I was just watching the guy on the news try the ATM machines.
And I think the big news around here is going to be how few people actually went out on New Year's Eve.
Whether or not they're just anticipating trouble or they didn't feel like going out or whatever.
art bell
Yeah, actually, in spas all across, actually from New York to Las Vegas to the spots where large crowds were going to show, a lot of people showed up, but a lot of people stayed home.
And I think you're right about that.
A lot of people said, you know, I think I'd rather bring this in at home.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hey, you know, Art, I never regretted buying some food because one time I decided to try some, the stuff I got was pretty good.
art bell
I know.
I know.
unidentified
And I just kept on eating it until it was gone.
art bell
Well, you know, that's exactly, well, you might have gone a little earlier, but that's what I told people.
You're never going to go wrong stocking up on food because you can always eat your investment.
I mean, big deal.
unidentified
Especially if you buy the good stuff.
art bell
That's right.
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, and I got a prediction, I guess.
art bell
Number 54 it shall be.
unidentified
And it's sad, but I think we might see one sometime in January.
We'll probably see another school shooting.
Just the way the trends have been going.
art bell
Yeah, that's unfortunate, but I bet we're going to see a year of it, too.
unidentified
Yeah, and I think people sort of stopped talking about it while the Y2K was coming up here, but we'll be hearing about it again shortly, I'd imagine.
art bell
Well, let's hope that the millennium brings some sort of change to us all that stops some of the madness, because it has madness.
It's really madness.
unidentified
Well, have a happy new year, Dart.
Sir America, too.
art bell
You take care, and everybody out there.
On our international line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
I'm calling from Winnipeg.
It's Mark.
art bell
Winnipeg.
All right.
Well, we're trying to hold our Canadian count down on the international line just so we can hear from the rest of the world, but okay.
unidentified
Oh, well, I just wanted to wish you a happy new year.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And it's been New Year's here for about an hour and 40 minutes.
art bell
And everything goes well?
unidentified
Yeah, everything's fine.
art bell
Obviously, your telephone is working.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Your lights are on.
unidentified
Yep.
And I'm watching you live on the internet.
art bell
And you're watching me live on the internet.
You know what, though?
There is something going on.
The internet is very, very slow right now.
The internet is moving at a snail's pace.
unidentified
Yeah, I've noticed that.
art bell
But I think, you know, it's just because of the amount of traffic.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I would suppose.
All right.
Well, listen, thank you, and happy new year to you.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
art bell
Take care.
I'm trying to hold that line open.
For anywhere in Europe, Asia, Africa, wouldn't it be fun to hear from Africa?
I wonder if they could get through.
Somebody in Africa, give it a try.
The number is, you call the AT ⁇ T, you get the AT ⁇ T operator.
It's a free call, no matter where you are in the world.
It's 800-893-0903.
800-893-0903.
Plus for the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi, Art.
unidentified
It's Lance from Santa Falls, Oregon.
art bell
Hi, Lance.
Hi, how are you?
Awaiting in about 10 and a half minutes, the new year, as you are.
unidentified
10 and a half minutes.
Okay, I got a prediction for the next millennium.
Okay.
I predict that we're going to see a.
art bell
Okay, you've got to turn your radio off or you're going to be able to.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
A UFO going by California.
art bell
California, all of California?
unidentified
Yes, from the south to the north, all the way up to Oregon.
art bell
Okay, south to north.
Got it.
unidentified
Okay, I want to wish you and your wife a Happy New Year and good luck with everything else.
art bell
Just good luck to us, I'll do.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
art bell
See you later.
Good luck to us all.
About nine and one-half minutes.
It's really racing toward me right now.
Well, you know, I can say no matter whatever else happens, I made it to the year 2000.
I bet there's a lot of people out there saying that.
You've got to think about it.
You've got to sit back and relax a little bit and think about it that there are not many human beings who get to experience the thousand-year change.
I mean, there just aren't.
You are a very privileged group.
We are all a very privileged group to greet the year 2000, to see it come and go.
It's an eventful thing for humanity, for all of us.
West of the Rockies, you're on there.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Oh, my Colin.
art bell
Well, now, with regard to who you're calling, you would know more about that than I would.
unidentified
Oh, well, no, I just was dialing a number.
art bell
You're just dialing a number randomly?
unidentified
Well, no, I was trying to reach Art Bell.
Uh-huh.
art bell
Well, who do you think you've reached?
unidentified
Oh, I have no idea.
art bell
Guess for me.
Take a big guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
art bell
Really don't know, huh?
Well, you wanted what kind of pizza?
What kind of pizza?
unidentified
Oh, I don't want any pizza.
art bell
No, thanks.
You did order one, anchovies, right?
unidentified
No, no anchovies.
I can't stand anchovies.
No?
No.
art bell
All right, well, all right.
You sure you're canceling this order Then no, no, no, Pizza.
All right, well, all right, fine on the international line, you're on here.
unidentified
Hello, yeah, this is Dave from London, Ontario calling.
art bell
Dave, we're trying to hold this line for you.
unidentified
Yeah, I just wanted to tell you about an Y22K clutch.
art bell
Oh, really?
Woodstock, Ontario.
Woodstock, Ontario.
I'm in London, Ontario.
unidentified
My cousin just called me a while ago, said the power was all out in Woodstock.
It's about 50,000, 60,000 population centers.
Really?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
So that's quite interesting.
art bell
When did it go out, did he say?
unidentified
Well, I just talked to him, and he said it was out for about, it's been out for about two and a half hours.
It's 2.52 time in London, Ontario, Canada here.
Oh, my.
art bell
So, in other words, oh.
Have the local authorities said it is not.
I haven't heard.
unidentified
I'm just checking on the local news here to see if I can see anything.
art bell
We'll see if they say it is not Y2K related.
Yeah.
That seems to be the general comment tonight on most of the outages so far.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
that would be a...
Woodstock, Ontario, huh?
unidentified
You see...
art bell
That's interesting.
Well, it may be that the grid is doing a little adjusting and so forth.
Wildguard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello, how are you doing?
I'm doing okay.
unidentified
Hey, I got a prediction for you.
art bell
You do, huh?
Where are you?
unidentified
I'm going across Illinois.
I'm a truck driver.
art bell
My name's Todd.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
And what do you predict for the year 2000?
unidentified
Okay, I predict all the truck drivers are finally going to get together and go on strike.
art bell
Do you really think so?
unidentified
I think so.
I think it's about time they start standing up for themselves again.
art bell
All right.
Well, are you trying to organize that by saying this, or are you actually just predicting it?
unidentified
I don't know.
Probably kind of both.
art bell
What is it that the truck drivers want?
I don't know, quite a bit.
unidentified
I don't know.
It kind of seems like they're just kind of, everybody's starting to go against us a little bit.
No, no.
art bell
We love truck drivers.
I live out here in the middle of the desert.
If it wasn't for truck drivers, I wouldn't have a damn thing out here, even toilets.
We need you, yes.
unidentified
Well, I mean, there's, you know, just like there's a few bad truck drivers.
There's, you know, you only hear the words of the ones that are.
art bell
The only bad truck drivers are the truck drivers that, when there's only two lanes, there's two trucks, and they go side by side.
Those are bad truck drivers with about a million cars behind them.
And I know that they're talking on the CB going.
You've never done that, have you?
I can't really tell you if I have or not.
Yeah, right.
All right.
Well, good luck with your strike.
Thank you very much for the call.
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah.
art bell
Take care.
You ever run into that on the road?
Used to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, turn your radio off.
I did.
Okay, where are you?
unidentified
I am in Orlando, Florida.
art bell
Orlando, yes, sir.
unidentified
Orlando.
Yes.
And we did not get any of the stuff with Cordmichael Stallion tonight.
Aw.
Are you going to repeat that anytime soon?
art bell
Oh, I'm sure we will.
And, of course, it'll be available on the net.
Do you have a computer?
No.
Well, then you have nothing that's going to fail, do you?
unidentified
No.
art bell
Okay.
Well, all I can tell you is I'm sure they will repeat Gordon.
They always do.
When Gordon speaks, everybody listens.
unidentified
Great, and we were dying to hear what he had.
art bell
Maybe you could give it to Highland.
Just what was it that the Orlando affiliate was doing that was so important?
unidentified
They were covering Lake Eola firework.
art bell
That's all right.
We'll get a repeat on for you, all right?
unidentified
Or give us a couple of highlights, even tonight?
That would be exciting.
art bell
Let me think about that.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
I think I want to play this for Mr. Harrison.
As the millennium approaches, folks, it's on the way to the west coast.
Just minutes, about three minutes now, and it'll sweep right over the west coast into the Pacific Ocean, headed toward Hawaii and Alaska.
unidentified
Happy New Year!
art bell
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
and Ramona Bell.
My sweet Lord Mmm, my Lord Mmm, my Lord Mmm, my Lord I really want to see you.
I really want to see you in you.
I really want to see you, Lord.
But it takes so long, my Lord.
I see you.
Oh, AMA 40, KXNT.
art bell
Your local goodwill needs your car, truck, or van.
Tell me, bring you the best local news.
unidentified
We bring you.
Hollywood Strive is lit up in multiple colors.
It is the Hollywood sign as never seen before in this city.
Lit up by lasers and lights and the cheering of people here at the Paramount Studios in Hollywood and across the city at civic celebrations all over this farplung city.
Hollywood in technicolor, lit up, dotted with color and lasers, as this city has never seen it before.
The new millennium has reached Hollywood.
With New Year's festivities on the Las Vegas Strip, here's Steve Butterman in Las Vegas.
Well, they're celebrating here as well on the Las Vegas Strip.
You may hear the crowd in the background.
The Las Vegas Strip has been shut down for several hours as tens of thousands of people gathered here.
And when the final seconds were being counted down, you could hear the crowd chanting 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Some fireworks went off, but just a celebration going on here in Las Vegas.
Now, last year, there were some disturbances after the new year began.
So far, though, police say there have been no problems.
There have also been no computer problems, major computer problems, that is, anywhere throughout the world.
Let's get the latest from the Y2K desk and CBS News correspondent Barry Bagno.
The crisis that wasn't, that's what Y2K has turned out to be, at least so far.
Some power plants experienced glitches, but nothing major.
In fact, no American utility has reported an outage.
Trains and planes are operating normally.
ATMs are dispensing money.
White House Y2K coordinator John Koskinen warns developing countries may not yet be out of the woods.
I will not be surprised, and I don't think anybody should be surprised if we start to see problems reported in the next three or four days in some of those countries with their operating systems.
Live now from New York's New Year's hotspot, Times Square.
Here's CBS News correspondent Dan Revived.
All went well three hours ago when the multicolored ball made of almost 700 halogen lights plus mirrors came down the pole high above Times Square.
New Yorkers and out-of-towners totaling around one and a half million people filled the square.
We drove down from Canada, 10-hour drive to get here, so we're in here for a long haul.
What's it been like?
What's it been like?
Well, kind of crushing in from the back here.
It's a little tight squeeze, that's all, but it's a lot of fun.
Yeah, cage the animal.
It's worth it.
Definitely worth it because it's a millennium.
Once in a lifetime.
Similar story in Washington, D.C., where President Clinton, his wife Hillary, and daughter Chelsea joined over 100,000 people enjoying fireworks.
The sky above Washington's dark white landmarks, the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument looks like a giant sparkler.
Streams of blue and gold fireworks and red, white, and blue laser beams are filling the first morning of the year 2000.
That's White House correspondent Peter Mayer from Times Square.
This is CBS News.
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art bell
It's all over peacefully in the Kansas City suburb of Olaytha.
A female suspect who'd been holding several people hostage inside a bank has surrendered.
unidentified
She was taken into custody.
There was a weapon involved.
No one was injured.
art bell
Police Lieutenant Joe Pruiss.
unidentified
We just believe it's a bank robbery gone bed.
Authorities plan to charge the woman in a few hours.
Speaking to a huge crowd of young people in St. Peter's Square in Rome, Pope John Paul II has summed up the century that's now coming to an end.
art bell
What suffering, what dramatic events, but also what incredible achievements.
They've been pretty busy at a help hotline in Pittsburgh, taking calls from kids who were worried about Y2K.
unidentified
Officials say many children don't quite know what all the fuss is about.
art bell
One seven-year-old boy called to say he was afraid to go outside because he was worried terrorists were coming.
unidentified
The counselor reassured him.
art bell
I'm Sam Litzinger, CBS News.
unidentified
Nonsense.
Even though he wants me to, I can't wait forever to know if you're the truth.
Time won't let me.
With every love.
I'll be in love.
No.
That's it.
art bell
The Millennium is here.
It has now swept across the contiguous U.S. States.
Headed for Hawaii.
Headed for Alaska and the Pacific.
unidentified
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First-time callers may rechart at 1-775-727-1222.
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And to rechart on the full-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
This is Coast to Coast AM with ourselves on the Premier Radio Network.
art bell
It certainly is, and it is here.
The year 2000.
Well, we made it here on the West Coast.
unidentified
How about that?
art bell
Listen, I've got two things for you.
One is I took a remarkably cool webcam shot right at the moment.
There's a lot of zeros in there, I'll tell you.
That was pretty close.
unidentified
So check it out.
art bell
Check out the photo on my webcam right now.
It's kind of cute, I think, but I'm going to leave it up there.
Other than that, the streaming video continues, and I might add, I've got this little guy, this little fuzzy animal, and when you squeeze his right hand, I don't know if you're going to be able to hear this or not, I'm going to try it.
You squeeze this little-I don't exactly know what he is.
He's a millennium creature or some kind of wiggle.
Listen to this.
Here we go.
It's not going to do it.
unidentified
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Welcome to the year 2000.
Welcome to the year 2000.
art bell
all of this from a little tickle wiggle, whatever in the world it is emanating from his belly here.
unidentified
Took him away.
art bell
Oh my god, he's gonna do it again.
Happy 2,000.
unidentified
Now, I will inform everyone that we are making our own time capsule of all this millennium stuff.
art bell
No, we're gonna bury it really deep.
unidentified
We're gonna bury it really, really, really all right.
art bell
Thanks.
That's a cute picture we did.
So, if you get an opportunity, take a look at the studio camera.
And I have had one glass of champagne, so that's all.
So, it should be an interesting remaining portion of the show.
Now, they're showing a shot on CNN of somebody in Seattle.
It looks pretty windy in Seattle, I would say, right now.
And she's got a big jacket on, and I wonder what's going on.
Well, what's going on in Seattle?
You tell me.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
art bell
Hey, there.
unidentified
Good to be on the show.
We're out in New Mexico.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
And everything seems to be fine.
But I just really think there's going to be a terrorist act out in Seattle.
art bell
Oh, you do, huh?
Well, apparently Seattle thought so too, because, of course, they called off the major celebration there.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area originally, and I'm kind of glad I'm not there as well.
San Francisco?
Yeah.
art bell
The thing about terrorism is, thank God we haven't had any yet, but it can happen anywhere.
You know, the last place that anybody thought that a building would blow up would be in Oklahoma.
And that's where it happened.
So I don't know, I wouldn't say anywhere is safe.
unidentified
Well, I was.
art bell
And all of us have got to stay on the alert.
unidentified
Yeah, I was commuting on that bridge that collapsed and left town right before that happened back in the big earthquake.
art bell
You were commuting.
I'm hearing something.
What's all that in the background?
unidentified
Oh, it's our little party.
I'm in the other room now.
No, when that superstructure collapsed and all those people were trapped in the highway.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
That's where I used to commute to work on a daily basis.
Right around that time, I would have been on that highway.
art bell
But you got out of there before that occurred.
unidentified
Yeah, I moved out of town, and I just have a bad feeling now about the Bay Area.
art bell
Well, everybody's always nervous about the Bay Area.
Everybody's always nervous, and they have reason to be, because there's a big fault line there, and every now and then, it hiccups.
The End To make this commercial.
Okay, very good.
We have got to get our little sound on there, and then we'll be back underway.
Little Sound, where are you?
unidentified
Little Sound, where are you?
art bell
That's more like it.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Ark.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
This is Doug in Burlington, Wyoming.
Hi, Doug.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Oh, pretty good.
art bell
I would like to make a prediction.
It will be number 57.
unidentified
Okay.
We're listening to you on three different stations, by the way.
art bell
That's past stereo.
unidentified
Well, my wife's in one end of the house.
A buddy of mine's in the other end of the house.
And I've got the radio on in the living room, and I'm here in the back.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
All right.
Gordon Michael Scallion hasn't missed over about 94%, if I remember right.
art bell
Yeah, he's got a very high rate of hit.
unidentified
Well, I would say he's going to make about 96 to 98 next year.
art bell
In other words, you agree with what you heard?
Yes, sir.
unidentified
We've been listening to you since the minute you came on.
My wife and I listen to you every night.
art bell
This is going to be my first eight-hour programs.
I used to do six-hour programs as a matter of course for about 10 years.
Yes, sir.
But this will be my first eight-hour job.
unidentified
We wish to the good Lord above that you'd do eight hours every night.
art bell
You must be a Wiccan.
unidentified
No?
art bell
I'm just kidding.
unidentified
I work nights.
I'm a heavy equipment operator.
I work nights, and my wife listens to you whether I'm home or not.
And I've listened to you for years.
art bell
Well, thank her for me, please.
unidentified
Well, she's listening on the other radio in the other end of the house.
art bell
She just did.
What's her first name?
unidentified
Benny.
art bell
Benny.
All right.
Well, you just said hi to her.
Okay.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
And a happy new year to you.
Well, now Hawaii and our Alaskan friends await.
I understand that finally it is so cold in some parts of Alaska with ice fog that they're not going to be able to fire off the fireworks.
Is that true?
Remember, on our international line, if you would like to reach us from somewhere else in the world, I'll simply get hold of the AT ⁇ T operator and have her call 800-893-0903.
And on the first time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art.
How are you doing?
All right.
Great.
This is Chris from Orlando, Florida.
WPDO 580.
art bell
Hi, Chris.
unidentified
Hi, how are you?
Okay.
evelyn paglini
Let's see.
unidentified
My prediction is that Ramona will have a spiritual experience this year that will be life-changing, in my opinion.
That's what I think.
And I love your show.
And here's a YCK update from Central Florida.
All right.
Our crossing arms for the trains here in DeBerry.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
We're just bouncing up and down last night and this afternoon.
No, uh-uh.
Just the lights were going and the arms were going up and down and kind of bouncing.
art bell
well, how do you get across that?
unidentified
Well, I kind of drove around.
I drove through.
art bell
You're sort of waiting for the right time.
You're driving and you dash across?
unidentified
Yeah, I inched off and I look both ways.
It looks safe, so.
art bell
But it's probably not Y2K-related.
unidentified
You know, I've watched CNN since 5 a.m. this morning, so I sound a little tired.
It's been up all day, but everything, every glitch that's gone wrong, they said, and it's not Y2K compliant.
art bell
I know, related, yeah, that's right, I know.
unidentified
Right, related.
art bell
Including some pretty big power outages, too.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
art bell
That's what I've been hearing about.
All right, thank you very much.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess there's a kind of a bias toward not reporting problems.
But surprisingly, then earlier, the Pentagon was reporting some sort of communication difficulty, which I found really surprising.
Because if you're going to avoid reporting things that are occurring in the general population that are really not so serious, why would you go to the Pentagon and why would they report something?
Odd, huh?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
Art Bell.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I'm so glad to hear from you again.
Glad you called me.
art bell
Well, I didn't call you.
unidentified
You called me.
Gosh, that's weird.
I just thought you wanted to talk to me.
Well, anyhow, I bet you'd like a report on the Santa Fe Railroad, wouldn't you?
art bell
What's going on with the Santa Fe?
unidentified
Well, I'm in Wellington, Kansas, about a half a mile from the very main line of the Santa Fe Railroad.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
There hadn't been a train through all night long.
Usually.
art bell
So, in other words, they actually stopped traffic.
unidentified
They shut them down.
art bell
Well, that'll prevent a glitch.
unidentified
Prevent a train wreck, anyhow.
Yeah.
No trains are not going to wreck.
Anyhow, I thought you'd like to know that as precautionary measure, they just shut the line off.
You're right.
art bell
I mean, a lot of things have actually shut down.
A lot of transportation.
I know the airlines are operating between 20 and 35 percent below averages.
They've shut down some communication.
They've shut down some computer systems and blah, blah, blah.
A lot of things are shut down.
unidentified
Usually, about every 15, 20 minutes, we've got a mile-long freight either going east or west through here, blowing your whistles with great vigor.
art bell
They do that in the middle of the night and wake your butt up, huh?
unidentified
It keeps the population constant here.
Wellington.
I can't understand this.
You've got 30,000 people in Perump and one traffic light.
art bell
Well, yeah, but I know we've got another coming soon.
unidentified
We've got 9,000 people in Wellington and probably six or seven traffic lights.
art bell
Do you, really?
unidentified
Yeah, but the railroad has kept the population stable here for 40 years.
Wakes people up at night, nothing else to do, so it keeps the population stable.
art bell
Well, apparently your town council must have nothing else to do.
They just keep buying traffic lights.
unidentified
Well, at least we're making an improvement.
art bell
They took two of them out.
unidentified
I've got a prediction.
What number will it be?
art bell
59.
unidentified
59.
Well, the Messiah will not return in the year 2000.
art bell
And what do you base that on?
unidentified
Bible studies.
art bell
But in the Bible, it says nobody will know.
So it could as easily be 2000 as not.
unidentified
Yeah, but at the same time, it says if you see clouds coming out of the west, you know there's a storm coming.
When the wind blows from the south, you know it's going to be warm.
It gives you several things to look at as a sign before the Messiah comes.
These signs are not in place yet.
Okay.
All right, but it'll be.
art bell
No Messiah in 2000.
I got you, sir.
Good to talk to you and to you.
And the trains are not running.
Yeah, I think they've done that actually with quite a number of systems that they were concerned about.
They simply shut them down.
Now, will there be problems over the next few days?
Yes, I suspect so.
But you have to admit, the early going with regard to the Millennium has been damn good.
I mean, you've got a whole world to worry about out there.
And there are going to be some sporadic problems, and we're having a few of them, but nothing too serious yet.
Once to the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello?
Hello?
art bell
Yes, turn your radio off.
unidentified
All right, Dad.
art bell
Turn it off, please.
unidentified
All right, Bob.
art bell
Okay, where are you?
unidentified
Anchorage, Alaska.
art bell
Oh, Anchorage, huh?
How cold is it up there?
unidentified
Oh, probably about 10 below.
art bell
10 below.
I guess it must be a lot colder in Fairbanks because I'm hearing they had to cancel the fireworks.
Oh.
unidentified
Oh, really?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
I heard it is colder.
I don't know about the fireworks, though.
art bell
What can I do for you, sir?
unidentified
Oh, I had a prediction for the new year.
art bell
All right, number 60.
What is it?
unidentified
Are you familiar with the rock group Millie Vanilli?
art bell
Oh, Millie Vanilli, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
Oh, one of them overdosed or something and he died.
And so my prediction will be that aliens will bring him back on the 5th of September next year, and they'll do a reunion tour.
Really?
Yes.
art bell
Will it really be Millie Vanilli this time?
unidentified
I believe it will be, yes.
art bell
Well, then.
unidentified
We'll have an alien-enhanced voice.
art bell
Goodbye.
First time caller lying, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Ardell.
art bell
Yes.
How are you?
Pretty well, thank you.
unidentified
And Happy New Year.
art bell
And the very same to you.
unidentified
Thank you.
I'm calling from like Tip City, Ohio.
Okay.
And I just had a little funny observation tonight.
Nothing happened, of course.
Everything's cool.
The world didn't blow up.
And I was going to pick up a friend because when the world didn't blow up, we decided to go have a donut and a cup of coffee.
That was our big excitement for the night.
art bell
Are you in the police force?
unidentified
No.
No, not at all.
But there were eight law enforcement officers in a little town called West Carrollton, Ohio that surrounded one car.
And I thought, my God, what did this person do?
art bell
What did they do?
unidentified
Had a flat tire.
art bell
The eight policemen had a flat tire?
unidentified
Yeah, it was a little bit of an over-response, maybe.
I don't know.
art bell
Did they change the tire for the person?
unidentified
No, no.
They just, they all were standing looking at it.
art bell
They were supervising.
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, I think they were bored.
I really think that they expected more to be going on in the world and nothing was going on.
So they went, hey, you guys, this guy's got a flat tire.
It looks like all over there.
art bell
Oh, my God, a flat tire.
Code, code, dream.
unidentified
I have a prediction for you, too.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
On the 186th day of the year 2000, I predict that all across the United States, in every state, in every city, in every little town, people will be celebrating with fireworks and picnics and eating hot dogs.
art bell
Fourth of July.
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm not going to predict that.
art bell
That's a sure thing.
unidentified
Well, yeah, that's the kind of predictions that I'm going to do.
art bell
You know, you're like the guy who watched Boris Yelson resign on CNN and quickly called me last night and said, Boris Yelson's going to resign.
unidentified
Well, I'm sorry.
I just, I wanted to go with something that I could, you know, be pretty sure of.
art bell
Well, it's a sure bet, all right.
unidentified
Okay.
I wish you and all of yours the best.
I enjoy your show so much.
You're a breath of fresh air in this world.
art bell
Well, I'm here anyway.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Take care.
Wildcard line, you're on here.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art Bell.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
art bell
Same to you.
unidentified
This is Damien calling you from the East.
art bell
Ah, Damien, the evil one.
unidentified
Yes.
Well, not so evil now.
It's quite joyous looking all around the world.
How everyone's having a good time.
art bell
You mean even Damien is having an uptime tonight?
unidentified
Yeah, well, obviously it was kind of sad for me because...
No, I've got other levels, other parts of me that is more benevolent, believe it or not.
art bell
Not.
unidentified
Not?
art bell
Anyway, what's up?
unidentified
Well, I wanted to make a prediction.
art bell
A Damien prediction.
unidentified
A Damien prediction.
Okay.
art bell
It'll be number 61 because I blew off the 186th day.
unidentified
Oh, my.
I was hoping to be number 66.
art bell
Of course you were.
unidentified
But okay, the prediction is that you are and I are going to meet in person sometime between January 1st and December 31st.
art bell
Somewhere during the year.
unidentified
Yeah.
You and I will meet in person.
And as we look into each other's eyes, as I see your glowing red eyes bearing down on me, your life will become enhanced for the better.
art bell
It will enhance me for seeing your beat red eyes?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Glowing red eyes?
unidentified
Those glowing red eyes will enhance your life even better and greater.
And at the same time, it will enhance my life too.
A mutual exchange of energy, positive energy.
art bell
You know, I don't know about positive energy from somebody with a name like yours.
unidentified
Well, there's many people with my name, and there's also exceptions to the general rule that all Damiens are.
Right.
art bell
Especially old ladies downstairs and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
art bell
All right, Damien.
Well, you never know.
We just might meet.
unidentified
That's true.
art bell
You're not in New York City, are you?
unidentified
I'm in Massachusetts.
art bell
Massachusetts.
Well, I'm going to be in New York City pretty soon.
unidentified
Well, I'm moving to New York City pretty soon.
Damien.
I was supposed to already be there, as a matter of fact.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Later.
Oh, what's that song you're playing?
art bell
Do you remember it?
Can you name that song?
unidentified
True love.
Let me see.
It is.
The lot of true love.
art bell
Come on, you gotta do it now.
unidentified
Long cry.
I like a Royal Orbit.
art bell
Roy Orvis.
unidentified
You know, no doubt.
Bring the crime.
art bell
Come on.
unidentified
No doubt, Alva.
art bell
Four seasons.
unidentified
I would have guessed that.
You would have guessed that.
art bell
Is that your final answer, Damien?
unidentified
Bye-bye.
I love you, I love you Do what we've got You say you're gonna go on it quick You're gonna jump it all Break our love.
Keep it breaking up.
I will never let it up.
art bell
AMA 40, KXNT.
unidentified
Look back on your Let me be one of you, baby.
Yeah, I'm a life like don't you, baby Cause you don't really love me You don't keep me hating up You don't really leave me But you keep me hating up I feel weak with coming well Play it with my heart It's
art bell
here, everybody year 2000 has arrived.
How do you feel?
unidentified
Do you feel any difference?
art bell
I feel a little bit.
Then again, that might be the glass of champagne.
unidentified
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art bell
You know, it occurs to me that I've got all these oldies, and I think I've got $100 for anybody who can name every single Oldie on Any one of my CDs.
For example, the CD I've got right here.
And this gives you a lead because it's on right now.
But anybody who wants to call and thinks they want to take the $100 challenge, I can afford $100 for just naming every song when I play a few bars of it.
Now, you missed one, that's it.
I'll let a couple of people try that.
I'll put a $100 bill at Chris.
So if you think you're really good, and I mean, you'd have to be really good, you let me know, and I'll let you take the $2,100 challenge.
The End To make this commercial more believable.
Well, I'm very sorry to be reporting a fatality in Las Vegas.
It seems a young man fell off a light pole and died instantly, I'm told, in Las Vegas, just over the hill.
And I guess there's going to be some of that sort of thing going on.
There have been some arrested and so forth and so on.
But that's kind of a yearly event in Las Vegas.
Usually people don't die who fall off light poles.
But it depends, I suppose, on how you land.
So that's very sad.
Yeah, that's it.
Anybody can do this and name every song on any given CD, and I have selected one here.
You've already got one of the songs on it.
If you can name the others, I will send you a personal check, an Art Bell, Remotabel, personal checking account check for $100.
Do I feel safe?
I hear my wife laughing in the other room.
It was either a laugh or a scream.
I can't tell which.
You think anybody could do that?
unidentified
I don't.
art bell
That's what I think, too.
Money's safe.
First time calling a line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Art Bell?
art bell
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Hi, my name is Jess Con from Southgate, Michigan.
art bell
Southgate, Michigan.
Hun, turn your radio off.
unidentified
Okay.
That's what you got to do when you get on the air.
art bell
Oh, I hear a little one there, too.
Yes, and that little one doesn't sound too happy.
unidentified
I heard earlier someone called from, I believe it was Columbus and said that the power was out.
art bell
They did, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, well, 20 after 1 also here on East Point that you said in Detroit the power was out.
art bell
Oh, it was?
unidentified
Yeah, it was on the news.
They said it also didn't have anything to do with Y2K.
art bell
Of course it didn't.
That's a lot of power failures that have nothing to do with Y2K.
unidentified
That's what I said.
art bell
Well, would they lie to us?
unidentified
You want to know the truth?
art bell
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah?
art bell
Yeah, they would.
You're right.
You want to make a prediction?
unidentified
I can't really think of anything.
I think that there's something going to go on with Russia within the next 90 days, but I don't know what it's going to be.
art bell
Well, probably nothing very good.
All right.
unidentified
Thanks for the call.
art bell
Take care.
Wildcard line, you're on the air, huh?
unidentified
Hi, I just wanted to take your challenge.
art bell
You really think you could do it?
unidentified
No.
Well, then...
art bell
Are you good?
unidentified
I'm not terribly good, but I'm not bad.
art bell
Well.
unidentified
Does that make sense?
art bell
Well, I don't know whether it does or not.
I mean, how old are you?
unidentified
I'm 50.
Just turned 50.
Well, you might be able to do it.
All right.
What the heck?
art bell
Here we go.
You ready?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
You miss one, you're out.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, here we go.
You only get a few bars of each one.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Here it comes.
unidentified
Here it comes.
art bell
Done it?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Yeah, well.
unidentified
Well, I have no idea.
No idea.
art bell
All right.
Well, others will now have an idea, so they now have probably two, because a lot of other people will have that one.
I mean, it wasn't that hard.
Really?
Is that what you think?
unidentified
I just thought.
art bell
Well, that wasn't even close.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
art bell
Not even close.
Let's try it again.
Now, listen, I'll give you a little more this time, all right?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
If I give you too much, it's going to give you the title.
unidentified
In fact, it will.
art bell
You still don't have it?
unidentified
No, I sure don't.
art bell
You're one of them.
unidentified
I am.
You are?
Now, listen.
American woman going home.
That's a really great old version.
Yeah.
art bell
You shouldn't have missed that one at all.
unidentified
No, I shouldn't have missed that.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to take the time.
art bell
All right, American woman.
Thank you.
unidentified
Sure, bye.
art bell
See you later.
See, she didn't even make it past the first one.
My hundredth safe.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Art.
Hey.
All right, I think I can take the challenge.
I'm 27 years old, but I've got a pretty good idea of music.
art bell
Well, all right.
Fine.
Here we go.
And this is going to seem very repetitive, but.
gordon michael scallion
That's an American woman.
art bell
Okay, fine.
unidentified
Vibrations.
art bell
What is it?
unidentified
Good vibrations.
art bell
Good vibrations?
gordon michael scallion
Oh, no, California girls.
All right.
art bell
All right.
Is that your final answer?
unidentified
California girls.
art bell
All right.
That's right.
unidentified
All right.
Here we go again.
Hey, Tripper.
art bell
Hey, Tripper.
The Beatles, that's your final answer, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
That one's got you, huh?
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
You're going to be sick.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
Don't let that buzzer sound.
gordon michael scallion
All I can say is it was good talking to you.
I've been trying to get through for a million years.
art bell
Well, now I'm going to really make you sick because that's the one that I played going into the last.
It's called Working My Way Back to You by the Four Seasons.
I mean, I even named it, and that's the one you blew.
unidentified
I know.
Well, what can I say?
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Thanks for the call.
gordon michael scallion
All right, bye.
art bell
Take care.
Now you have one, two, three, four, five.
No, four.
You have four of them.
So I'm going to...
I'm going to start at number five if somebody else wants a challenge.
On the international line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm just wondering if you checked your email yesterday?
Or if you did?
art bell
If I checked my email when?
unidentified
Yesterday.
art bell
Yeah, sure I did.
unidentified
Yeah, I sent you an email, the youngest listener.
art bell
Yes, I saw your email.
unidentified
Yeah, what did you think?
art bell
I thought it's still there.
I mean, I haven't cleared it out yet.
It said your youngest listener.
unidentified
Yes, I started listening when I was 10.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, I got hooks on your program.
art bell
And now you are how old?
unidentified
13.
art bell
You want to make a prediction?
It's your one opportunity.
unidentified
Okay, what number will it be?
art bell
62.
unidentified
62.
Yep.
That you're going to be in the hospital or a breath near death or something?
art bell
That I'm what?
unidentified
You're going to be in the hospital.
art bell
I'm going to be in the hospital.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
I don't know.
I had a dream last night.
Really?
That you were in a hospital bed.
art bell
I was sick, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, something.
art bell
Well, that's a pretty downer prediction.
unidentified
Well, from my youngest.
art bell
From my youngest listener.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
art bell
Well, listen.
We'll see.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, take care.
I've had worse.
I've got predictions that I will die.
Usually that I will be off the air.
And that's been going on for the better part of 15 years now.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Eventually, they'll be right.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
Yes.
Hi, how are you?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
I want to make a prediction.
art bell
It will be number 63.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Following my being in the hospital.
unidentified
Okay.
I hope that doesn't happen.
I predict that the society will be told about something serious and they will go into mass hysteria.
art bell
You mean like E.T. presence, that kind of thing?
unidentified
I don't know.
Just something, just the way I saw people react today to just thinking of Y2K and the way they were in the stores just was unbelievable.
art bell
How were they?
unidentified
Where are you again?
I'm in Bakersfield, California.
art bell
Bakersfield.
And what were the stores like?
unidentified
Crazy.
People were buying bottled water by the cartfuls.
There was no water.
They were arguing.
They were buying it right down to the individual bottles in the cases.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And it's like last minute.
I just went to do my regular shopping, and I stood in line for maybe 25 minutes just to go through the grocery line.
The gas lines were crazy.
I couldn't believe it.
It was unbelievable.
I'd never seen anything like it before.
art bell
Well, I know that a lot of people think it's all over now, but it's not.
unidentified
No.
art bell
Not by a long shot.
unidentified
No.
art bell
Actually, until we get into the business day next week, we're not going to know.
What we do know now is the power didn't go tumbling down, which is a good thing.
But there's still going to be a lot of disruption, and it's going to begin next week.
Mark my words.
unidentified
And people should have been prepared already, not wait till the very last day.
art bell
You're quite right.
unidentified
I couldn't believe it.
It was scary.
I was really scared.
art bell
Well, people get a little strange when they get worried.
unidentified
I guess.
I wasn't really worried.
I just went to do my regular shopping.
I was already prepared.
art bell
Yeah, but people can worry you.
unidentified
Yeah, they did.
I was wondering, should I get more water?
art bell
I know.
Well, that's how it works.
Do you know that once Johnny Carson said that there was going to be a nationwide shortage of toilet paper?
And this is serious.
Everybody ran out and bought toilet paper.
They thought he was serious.
And there did become, you couldn't get toilet paper no matter what.
unidentified
Oh, my goodness.
art bell
It actually happened.
unidentified
And the media can do that.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Yep.
unidentified
It's strange.
art bell
Even I could do it.
I don't know what I would do it with, but.
unidentified
Well, I know that you can make it rain, so I'm happy with that.
art bell
No, no, I didn't do that.
unidentified
We did it.
art bell
You're right.
unidentified
You did it.
art bell
All right, dear.
unidentified
Thanks.
Okay.
Happy New Year.
art bell
Take care.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I'm over Portland.
How you doing?
Fine.
Hi, I'd like to take your challenge.
I got every one of those songs so far.
Yeah?
art bell
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I'm not going to give you the ones that I've already done.
unidentified
No, that's okay.
art bell
I'm going to start you with the balance of this CD.
unidentified
Just don't hit me with anything in the early 50s.
I'm good after 58.
art bell
Yeah, you get hit with what you get here with.
unidentified
All right, here we go.
art bell
You ready?
unidentified
Yeah.
I saw her again.
art bell
Woo.
You're good.
All right.
unidentified
Monday, Monday.
art bell
Monday, Monday.
unidentified
You're good.
art bell
You're scaring me here.
unidentified
Hey, little girl.
art bell
Oh, my God.
You've got it.
That's right.
unidentified
It is little girl.
Look at this, folks.
art bell
This is a rare one.
I felt sure he'd fall down on this one.
unidentified
Hey, little girl, you haven't got nothing no more.
art bell
All right, here we go.
unidentified
Termined Hermits.
One second.
How high is my loneliness?
art bell
Is that your final answer?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I don't know.
unidentified
I know it's not the name, though.
art bell
It's still my hundredth.
unidentified
What's the name?
I won't stay in a world of love.
Is that it?
art bell
That's it.
unidentified
I got a prediction for you, too.
art bell
All right.
It'll be number 64.
unidentified
I say that this year you're going to become the king of the herb-infused flavored oil pizza sauce empire.
And you're going to market and make a million.
You want to taste it.
I was listening the other night.
art bell
It is the most pizza punch.
It is the most incredible.
I wouldn't eat pizza without that in a million years.
As a matter of fact, my wife has to make more.
She can't keep me in this stuff.
unidentified
Well, you know, I know you won't give the recipe away, but I wish you would because I'm dying to try it.
art bell
I'll tell you what I'll do.
I'll have some made up, And we'll send it out to selected listeners and get their opinion.
unidentified
Okay, that sounds great.
Also, I'm sorry I missed Gordon earlier.
I was the guy called on the West of the Rockies at the end.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
You know what I wanted to ask him was what he thought would happen if they actually put the capstone on.
Why they stopped him.
They looked at him scared.
art bell
Trying the machine would turn on.
Yeah.
unidentified
What was this that Daniel said?
Something about changing the Earth's magnetic field?
art bell
You mean Gordon?
unidentified
No, you remember Daniel last time he was on.
He talked about that.
Daniel.
art bell
Yes, well, a lot of people are talking about that.
Oh, yes.
That there is a magnetic shift imminence.
That there's one that's going to occur.
And by the way, what Gordon had to say earlier tonight resonated with what Ed Dames has been saying now for about a year and a half with regard to the sun.
It was really close.
unidentified
Everybody sounded alike.
That's what's starting to get scary.
art bell
You know what scared me more than anything else?
unidentified
What?
art bell
You getting all those songs right.
unidentified
Well, I'm 43, and you shouldn't have got me on that one.
I should have known the Hermann service.
You have a happy new year, Art.
art bell
All right, see you later.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
art bell
Actually, it was Peter and Gordon.
Yeah, we ought to do that.
We ought to make up some pizza punch and send it out to some people.
It's so unique.
unidentified
It's so good.
art bell
We might try it.
It's just something that we have never somehow gotten around to, but maybe we'll do that.
It is incredible stuff, folks.
unidentified
Well, yeah, for a while.
art bell
They'll never get through all this.
There's no way.
You think they're going to make it through that, for example?
Or, say, that, for example?
unidentified
No way.
They're not.
art bell
No way.
Western the Rockies, you're on here.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, this is an update from Anchorage.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I guess there was a bomb threat at downtown Anchorage about 30 minutes ago.
art bell
There was a bomb threat in Anchorage?
Yep.
Do you know anything about the nature of the threat?
unidentified
It was at the TAC downtown, forming outside.
I guess they're going to have some vans flying there.
Somebody called in a bomb threat and they evacuated the whole downtown area.
art bell
Oh, brother.
unidentified
All it takes is one person.
art bell
Yeah, apparently so.
I take it that no bomb has been found.
It's just somebody who wanted, apparently, to ruin the night.
unidentified
Probably.
Yeah, they haven't said anything more about it.
art bell
Well, I'm sure sorry to hear that.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay, thank you for the report, sir.
All right, thank you.
care.
You know, of all the major cities that have gone by without a problem, to have a problem like that in Anchorage is amazing to me.
Because Anchorage is a pretty...
Now, what do I mean by closed?
Well, not really closed, but I mean close.
A close community, or at least it was.
Now, I guess Anchorage is now really a big city, and so I guess you can expect it like anywhere else, but I'm sorry to hear that.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air, huh?
unidentified
Hello, Art.
Hello.
art bell
Turn your radio down, please.
unidentified
I'm terribly sorry.
That's all right.
First off, I'd like to say thank you very much for your service to our country.
Sure.
art bell
Whatever that has been.
unidentified
Well, it inspired me anyway.
I'd also like to say Ramona sounds like she's having just entirely too much fun back there.
art bell
It is.
She is.
unidentified
God bless her heart.
And the other thing is, my dog just, now, this sounds funny, but my dog has predicted that Central California is going to have an earthquake.
art bell
How did he do that?
I mean, was it sort of like a six-point earthquake?
unidentified
Well, no, I can't say exactly what point it's going to be, but she just freaks out.
She did it last time, and she did it again tonight.
art bell
Okay, Dog predicts earthquakes.
I mean, when?
How soon?
unidentified
Within the next few weeks.
And I predict you will be the king of the next big pizza chain across the United States.
And the other thing is, if you would have run an ABBA CD, I probably still couldn't have got it, but I really would have liked to hear the clip.
Well, that'd be a giveaway.
art bell
I mean, you can't run one group, and then you get a groupee of that group who just names them right off, and there goes my 100.
unidentified
What kind of deal is that?
Well, it's kind of a sure bet.
art bell
Yeah, for you.
unidentified
Art, I want you to have a very Merry New Year.
art bell
You too, sir.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
art bell
Take care.
On the international line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
Oh, my God.
I actually got through.
art bell
Well, let's see, where are you?
unidentified
Canada?
art bell
Canada.
Well, that's why you got through, because we're trying to hold this line open for people elsewhere.
But go ahead.
Where in Canada?
unidentified
Oh, sweet.
I'm from Calgary.
art bell
Calgary.
All right?
unidentified
Yeah, I listen to you all the times when I get up in the night.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Pretty good show.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
I just thought I'd tell you that down in Vancouver, British Columbia.
Yes.
They had Lou Bega playing.
Yes.
I just thought I'd tell you he did really terribly.
art bell
He did?
unidentified
Yeah, he was the worst singer ever.
art bell
Why?
unidentified
Well, I don't know.
He was stoned or something.
art bell
Oh, well, maybe he was just celebrating the new year.
unidentified
Maybe he was.
A little early, I guess.
art bell
Well, even, look, even in Las Vegas right now, some of our television anchors we have observed are weaving around a little bit.
unidentified
Huh?
art bell
You know, you don't get to the year 2000, actually, ever.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
art bell
Right?
Just once.
unidentified
Right, yeah.
So.
We know their names.
art bell
Yeah, we have their names.
I weave too, but I'm on radio, so it doesn't count.
I gotta go, huh?
unidentified
Right.
art bell
All right, see you later.
unidentified
We're coming up on the left, the year 2000, and Anchorage, Fairbanks.
art bell
Anchorage?
unidentified
Fairbanks.
Are you sure?
art bell
I thought they were two hours, or just one hour?
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Well, if that's really right, you're about to greet the millennium in Alaska.
I thought it was two hours.
But at this time of year, it may not be.
We'll see.
unidentified
Somewhere where she'd never been before.
More nice praises and long gazes when gets you where you want to go.
Words of love, soft and tender warm.
AMA 40, KXNT.
How much longer are you going to wait?
CBS News, I'm David Dowell in Los Angeles.
The big light show is over, but the celebration goes on.
With a flick of a ceremonial switch, Mayor Richard Reardon and talk show host Jay Leno lit up the famous Hollywood sign in blinking Technicolor.
The show was viewed on big screens by crowds from the Los Angeles Harbor to the San Fernando Valley and here at the Paramount studios of the Black Tie Gala.
The first real rain of the season held down crowds somewhat and caused some power outages in the city.
But none of the outages was thought to be Y2J related.
I'm David Dow in Los Angeles with more of the nation's celebration.
Here's Terry Anderson in Anchorage, Alaska.
Finally, it's Alaska's turn to ring in the year 2000, one of the last places on earth to do so.
After a night of indoor cultural events ranging from Middle Eastern belly dancing to native Eskimo drummings, thousands of people are gathered now outside on the streets of Anchorage for the fireworks display near town square.
It's minus five degrees here, so the dress coat is tarker, hat, warm boots, and gloves.
For CBS News, this is Carrie Anderson live at Anchorage Town Square.
Now with more New Year's festivities, we go to Seattle's and Patty Lane of Affiliates KIRO.
Well, terrorist threats closed Seattle Center.
Terrorist threats closed Seattle Center, but many came out to the hills and buildings around it to catch a view of the team watched off the landmark.
While the excitement mounted and the countdown came, revelers were disappointed after only five minutes of fireworks.
Live in Seattle on Patty Lane was more of the Millennium Celebration.
You go to CBS correspondent, Dave Raviv in Times Square.
This is Dan Raviv in Times Square, where right now on both sides of an outdoor stage, about 1,000 watched the 22nd of 24 performances, one an hour for each time zone.
Alaska Eskimo music in this show, four hours ago, was the big one.
Midnight here, one and a half million people cheered as the brightly multicolored balls came down a pole high above the square.
What happened?
The lights didn't come out on Broadway.
What happened to Y2K?
It didn't happen to you.
It was a bop.
It was a bop.
Why 2K failed?
What should I say?
Police report foreseen arrests in this area, but no disruptions.
A good-natured, huge crowd.
A nice start to a new year.
Live in Times Square, I'm Dan Raviv.
Now with more CBS News, Sam Lissinger.
Big welcome to the new year in a big way in Washington, D.C. Fireworks, music, Huge crowds on the Washington Mall.
No major Y2K problems to report either.
The man in charge of checking for them says he actually expected some, but they just didn't show up.
Officials say Y2K problems were not a factor in the controlled shutdowns of three nuclear power plants in South Carolina, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.
art bell
They say the trouble ranged from a transformer problem to distribution troubles.
unidentified
This is CBS News.
art bell
Friends, this is Larry King.
unidentified
The fireworks are exploding over Acapulco Bay, and tens of thousands of people are lining the beaches watching the shells.
There are dozens of boats with their mastheads lit up floating along in the bay.
And on the hillside at private parties like this one in the Past La Sprifest neighborhood, people are dancing, hugging, and wishing each other a Feliz Agnon Revolution.
Happy New Year.
Dozens of women hoping to have Australia's first baby of the new millennium were beaten to it by a woman who wasn't expected to give birth until January 8th.
Bodie J. Ella didn't want to wait and was born just 30 seconds into the new year.
1999 is officially dead and buried.
Thousands of People took part in a traditional jazz funeral in New Orleans.
They played tunes and marched through the city's French quarter.
I'm Sam Litzinger, CBS News.
Nonsense.
Nonsense.
art bell
All right, here we go again.
Let me read some more of the predictions made in 1998, about 1999, and see how people did.
There's my pen so we can judge.
Not that I'm going to get them all right, but I'll do the best I can.
Now, see, I've lost my pen.
Pens go to the land of the lost.
I mean, they just occasionally do that.
Maybe I took it out of the room, but I don't recall doing that, so it's gone.
My pen is gone.
Well, when going gets tough, the tough get a pencil.
And I've got a pencil, so here we go.
Number 46, that the United States would go to war with Russia.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
Number 47, that I would Not be on the air this time next year.
Bonk, I'm on the air.
Number 48, that I would write another book in 1999.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, I sure did.
And by the way, it's the coming global superstorm, plug time, and we're going to be in New York in Manhattan at Barnes and Noble at about 12.30 in the afternoon on the 12th, Whitley Streeber and myself signing this book.
And talk about a prophetic book.
It's scaring the hell out of me.
With what's going on with the weather right now, this book will scare you.
It is fiction, it's drama, it's entertaining, and I'm afraid it may be true.
It's called The Coming Global Super Storm.
You can find it at Amazon.com where they give you 35% off.
Or your local bookstore.
Number 49, a huge turmoil.
World War III.
Bonk have not had World War III.
50.
A major shift in power.
I'm going to give that a ding, ding, ding, ding, because just prior to the millennium, Boris Yeltsin quit, and that's a major shift in power in Russia.
I give that a ding.
Number 51, insurrections in the United States.
I'm giving that a bonk.
It's been pretty quiet.
Number 52, that we would go under martial law.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
No martial law yet.
Number 53, Hillary punches Bill on camera.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
If they had said in private, I might have dinged that one.
Number 54, Jonathan Reed, alien in the freezer.
Dr. Reed exposed as a hoax.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
He certainly has not been.
At number 55, that I would get a new cat.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
I have three and want no more.
Number 56, that a Bigfoot would be caught, either dead or alive.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
So, there you have it.
Let's see.
What else do we have?
At number 57, that Art and David Oates would reconcile.
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Number 58, that Europe, the Euro dollar, surpasses the American dollar.
I don't think the Euro has done that well, has it?
It's almost even with the American dollar.
I'm going to put a question mark by that one because I'm not really sure of the answer.
Number 59, that I would be blamed for Y2K suicides.
unidentified
Well, bonk.
I don't think we've had any.
art bell
And, let's see, number 60, Curtis Smokes Art.
Now, that refers to Curtis Sliwa.
Curtis smokes art.
Well, he has not smoked me.
unidentified
In fact, I smoke him.
Bonk.
art bell
Number 61, that the NBA would go on strike and that the whole thing would destroy the National Basketball Association.
Bonkies did not do that.
And number 62, that the common cold will be cured.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
So I would have to say so far, we're running at about a 20% success rate, 18 to 20%.
Not too good.
We've had better years.
Welcome to the Rockies.
unidentified
You're on there.
43.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Bell.
Yes, sir.
Yes, I'm calling from Honolulu.
art bell
Well, hello there.
unidentified
Yes, I've been listening to you for years.
art bell
And you've got about, what, about 43 minutes left or something?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Just about.
Yeah.
No, usually we live in Kalehi Valley, but we afraid all the smoke from.
You ever spend our New Year's out here?
art bell
Do I understand what?
unidentified
You ever spend New Year's out here?
art bell
I have never been there at New Year's.
unidentified
No, I have.
No, it's like a war zone.
Everyone, everyone has fireworks.
Really?
Yes, yes.
It's like it's unbelievable.
It's like the whole island's Chinatown on New Year's.
art bell
Have you been watching the fireworks around the world?
unidentified
Yes, but this is all individual.
art bell
In other words, everybody has their own.
unidentified
Everyone has their own.
That's why we came to Waikiki.
So we're in the middle of Waikiki right now because we couldn't handle the smoke and all the noise in Kalihi Valley.
art bell
Well, I would think Waikiki would be worse.
unidentified
No, because it's mostly tourist.
And there's so many police around.
art bell
I see.
So if you're comfortable with the protection of all the police?
unidentified
Well, I wasn't worried at home either, but it's nice to get away.
I have a nice air-conditioned room.
But it's just wild here.
Everyone's running around.
There's fireworks everywhere.
art bell
Matter of fact, I can hear some of it.
unidentified
Oh, we're surrounded by smoke.
It's quiet now.
art bell
Well, wait about another 41 minutes or so.
unidentified
Oh.
There is some more going now.
Yep, I heard it.
Over the hills in Makiki.
We're right between Cujillo Avenue and College Tower.
Are the trade wins?
Are the trade wins?
art bell
Are the trade winds blowing?
unidentified
No, everything is quiet.
art bell
Well, then you're going to get a lot of smoke.
unidentified
Oh, yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
It's going to be like fog every year.
But this year it's supposed to be worse.
art bell
Well, listen, good luck to you.
Do you want to make a prediction?
unidentified
I predict that they're going to outlaw fireworks in Hawaii next year.
art bell
Is that a prediction or a wish?
unidentified
Both, sir.
art bell
All right, I got you.
unidentified
God bless.
art bell
Thank you, and take care.
unidentified
Law fireworks in Hawaii.
art bell
Okay, well, we'll see.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Lord.
art bell
Yes, hi.
unidentified
I wanted to touch the challenge.
art bell
Oh, you want the challenge?
I want the challenge.
Are you up to it?
unidentified
I think so.
art bell
Now, ask yourself this before you really take the challenge.
unidentified
Ruth.
art bell
When I was playing these earlier, were you naming them as quickly as...
unidentified
You did?
All right.
All right.
What's the house?
art bell
Here we go.
You really think you're that good?
unidentified
Well, we'll wait to find out.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, that's right.
I can see for miles.
art bell
I can see for miles.
He's right.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Here comes the next one.
unidentified
You got your troubles, I got mine.
Fortunately.
Oh, you're scaring me, Harry.
art bell
He's exactly right.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
art bell
Oh, no.
You want to take a guess?
unidentified
No?
art bell
My hunter is safe.
You give us?
unidentified
We hate to, but.
art bell
That's a yes?
I can't identify that one.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Man, I play it all the time.
Happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Well, good try, sir.
Well, it was amazing.
See you later.
I don't know if I'm a goose anymore.
I mean, I'm already halfway through this thing and I've blown away five people.
unidentified
I'm going to have to think about it.
art bell
See, let me find another suit.
unidentified
I'll see what I think.
art bell
At least trick you up.
unidentified
Let's see.
It's something old.
risk st He's worrying me.
art bell
You guys are pretty good.
I have one here that will be good Ah, there's no way you're going to get this one.
I've got it.
I've got it.
I've got one you can't possibly do.
All right, this challenge, this $100 challenge, is good to the top of the hour.
After that, the offer is off.
The predictions, however, will continue.
Close to the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello?
Oh, hi, Artville.
I'm from Fairbanks, Alaska.
art bell
Fairbanks?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
How cold is it up there?
unidentified
50 below.
art bell
It's 50 below zero?
unidentified
Yes, an ice fog.
art bell
50 below zero with an ice fog.
We heard earlier, somebody said they had to cancel the fireworks celebration because it was so cold.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
We had to call the fire station and ask.
art bell
50 below zero is unreasonably cold.
Why would a person, most Americans would ask, choose to live in a place where it gets to be 50 below zero?
unidentified
I don't know.
I was just born here.
I don't know.
art bell
So in other words, you've never known anything else?
unidentified
No?
Yeah, because I was born here, so.
art bell
Have they ever taken you on a vacation down to Hawaii?
unidentified
Not yet.
art bell
So in other words, you're Alaskan through and through.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
Well, you got to be hearty.
Because 50 below zero, that's cold enough you can go outside and throw liquid up into the air and it comes down in ice crystals.
unidentified
Points of Mexico, is that telling you go to Hawaii?
Warm there.
art bell
Would you like to go to a warm place?
unidentified
Um, not really, because I don't like the air.
We have dry air here.
art bell
It's like there's ice in your blood.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
art bell
Well, do you want to make a prediction or what's on your mind?
unidentified
Um, I don't know, just say happy New Year's to you, because we couldn't get through.
art bell
Well, you've made it through.
unidentified
Yeah, we made it through once, and then you said disconnect and you party and everything happened.
art bell
I know they do that.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call, and stay warm.
unidentified
Be both.
art bell
Okay, 50 below zero.
Now, I've been in those kinds of temperatures a couple of times.
I lived in Anchorage, and occasionally, you know, like a couple of weeks during the year in Anchorage, it'll dip down to those sorts of temperatures.
I believe I saw 54 degrees below zero in Anchorage, and I saw 70 below in the Yukon.
And that scared me.
It's like, you don't stop the car.
You know, you just keep going.
And those were the days on the Alcan Trail when, you know, you could go a couple of hundred miles between gas stations, and you were always hoping the next one was going to be open.
Scary stuff.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
I am your winner.
I can win.
art bell
Oh, no, you can't.
unidentified
Yes, I can.
I've beaten Dick Bartley's Quiz Man.
I can beat you.
art bell
Who is Dick Bartley's Quiz Man?
unidentified
Oh, you've never heard it?
Dick Bartley runs a syndicated old oldie show called American Gold, and he has a contest called The Quiz Man, where he plays just a couple of beats of three oldies.
And if you name all three, you...
Uh-huh.
art bell
You really think you're up to that, huh?
unidentified
I really do.
All right.
Listening to it over the phone might make it a little harder, but you know.
art bell
It might, but I mean, you'll hear it pretty well.
You ready?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
All right.
Okay, here we go.
unidentified
Okay.
It's just a thing.
Bye.
Ricky Nelson Travel Men.
art bell
That's right.
That's one.
Yeah, here we go.
unidentified
Well, rocks are bad, baby.
In the street, love.
art bell
And that is.
unidentified
Rockaby Baby, but I have no idea who it's by.
art bell
No, that's sufficient.
unidentified
You're right.
art bell
It's Rockaby Baby.
I thought you'd blow that one for sure.
Gave you the title right away.
unidentified
Yes.
Little Peggy Martin.
art bell
I will follow him.
You're scaring me, sir.
All right.
unidentified
All right.
Happy birthday 315, the old Padaka.
art bell
Oh, man.
I'm going to have to hang up on you.
unidentified
Martin.
Huh?
Oh.
You got me on.
Really?
Yeah.
art bell
You're going to be sick.
unidentified
Talk too much.
Talk too much.
Jojo.
art bell
Good shot, anyway, sir.
unidentified
If you had kept on with the 60 stuff, there would have been no problem.
art bell
Well, I know, but I was beginning to see my hundred fluttering away.
unidentified
No, yeah.
art bell
I'll see you later.
unidentified
All right, bye.
art bell
All right, bye.
First time going online, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello?
Hi, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
art bell
Happy New Year to you as well.
unidentified
I have some news and a prediction.
art bell
News, huh?
Okay, what is the news?
unidentified
First news.
I'm in Samaritan, Texas, which is right by Brownsville.
art bell
You're in what town?
unidentified
Santa Maria.
art bell
Santa Maria, okay?
unidentified
Yeah, it's right by Brownsville, Texas.
art bell
Yeah, which is way down there.
unidentified
Yeah.
I spent my New Year's at my cousin's house, and we had several things happen.
art bell
Like what?
unidentified
First of all, when the Sparks for Swell, all these cell phones, we were using one cell phone, and it went out.
And none of the cell phones down here work.
Really?
They all stop working.
They can't call each.
The home phones work.
But the cell phones don't work.
You can't call two of them and they can't call each other.
art bell
Well, sounds like the cell phone company has a little work to do.
What is your prediction?
Because I don't have a lot of time.
unidentified
We will find that Al Gore will have a mental illness.
Really?
Yeah, but I'll have some more things happen at midnight.
art bell
We're not going to have time to cover it.
Well, quickly, what else?
unidentified
Okay, street lights don't work.
Life went out for 20 minutes.
And all the computers set their dates for January 4th, 1980s.
All the home computers.
art bell
But otherwise, none of that is Y2K related, they're saying, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
You have a good morning, sir.
unidentified
You too.
art bell
All right, take care.
We'll be right back.
It's the bottom of the hour.
I'm Mark Bellin.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
And even through 2000 and 2001, don't break that chain.
unidentified
And it's blue and blue, watch the sun rise.
And it's blue and blue.
Run in the shadows.
Damn your love, damn your life.
And if you don't...
AMA 40, KXMT.
art bell
Attention.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
To reach out bells in the Kingdom of Nye.
From west of the Rockies, dial 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
First-time callers may rechart at 1-775-727-1222.
art bell
Or use the wildcard line at 1-775-727-1295.
unidentified
To rechart on the Toll Free International line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Networks.
art bell
You know what this is?
This song?
I've played it for years.
I think I've been playing this song now for, huh?
I don't know, 10 years.
It's a very special piece.
It's called Little Ballerina Blue.
It's by George Fischoff.
And a couple of years ago, George Fischoff contacted me, and I was desperate.
I had an old tape, you know, and it was from something very scratchy, but I would play it anyway because I love the piano so much.
And somehow, George Fischoff in New York got hold of me and thanked me for playing the record and said, I said, Sammy, you've got to send me a copy.
And so he said, well, there aren't any.
Well, maybe a couple of 45.
So he found a new 45 of it and sent it to me.
And I got it.
And I realized I don't have a record player.
I don't have anything that would play a record, a vinyl record.
But my network did, so I sent it to my network, and they, of course, preserved it for me on a better medium.
And that's what this is, George Fischoff at Little Ballerina Blue.
I'm Art Bell, and it's a new millennium.
And it looks like it's going pretty well out there, folks.
unidentified
THE END All he hears elected.
All right.
art bell
Let us now examine some of the somewhat pathetically incorrect predictions made for 1999 in 1998.
Number 63, China marches into North Korea.
Bonk.
Number 64, Denver wins the Super Bowl by three.
Now, I'm not sure about this one, but as I remember, it was more of a knockout than that, so I'm going to give it a bonk if I'm wrong.
Somebody correct me.
Number 65, the 49ers by 14.
unidentified
Well, bonk.
art bell
Number 66, a device to stop interrupting yourself will be devised.
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
You know what?
As horrid as it is, this stupid little sound actually has prevented me from interrupting myself.
Okay, I can't stop it like that.
But it has done that, so you've got to give that a ding.
Number 67, map drugs to go to work for the inquirer.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
Number 68, Ken Czar indicted for abuse of power.
unidentified
Honk.
art bell
He was, I believe, investigated, but not indicted.
Number 69, major drug bust in Menlo Park.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
And I believe there was.
Ding, ding, ding.
I'm going to call that a ding.
Number 70, Prince Charles dies in 99, Bonk.
Number 71, big UFO sting at Area 50.
Oh, sighting.
I'm sorry.
At Area 51.
Not really.
I mean, there's sightings all the time, but not a big one.
Number 72, a nuclear reactor melts in South Korea.
Oh, no, somewhere in the world.
Oh, nothing melted.
Number 73, in April, a 15% drop in the Dow average.
Now, you know, that might be it.
I'm going to ding that one because we had, didn't we have the Asian crisis about then?
I think that's about right.
I'm going to give that a ding.
Number 74, device to help blind people to drive would be invented.
And I'm going to put a question mark by that because I don't know of one, but it may be.
Number 75, on New Year's Eve, predicting now for 1999, it would be wild, crazy, and rioting.
Well, there sure was in Las Vegas.
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Number 76, there would be an advance in alien knowledge.
I've got to bonk that because there may be, but I just don't know about it.
Number 77, the Pope dies.
gordon michael scallion
Bonk.
art bell
He, in fact, made it, folks.
The Pope made it.
I really didn't give him a big chance, but you've got to know that man had intestinal fortitude and he just pushed himself to make it.
Number 78, grocery stores to require membership.
Bonk.
That would have to be at least the majority of them.
So that brings us to number 79 as we continue in last year to take new predictions.
And on the first time, caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, this is Bill from Anchorage, Alaska.
art bell
Hi, Bill.
Do you know anything?
Can you confirm or deny?
Some earlier caller said there had been a bomb threat up there.
unidentified
Yes, there has.
art bell
Oh, there was one, huh?
unidentified
We had approximately news.
We're estimating 10,000 people in the city of Anchorage.
They had nine blocks blocked off for the entertainment for the new year.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And at 11 o'clock, they had a bomb threat in the performing arts building.
art bell
Oh, brother.
unidentified
And they evacuated the performing arts and the Egan Center.
And the fireworks were to go off at midnight.
They postponed that until 10 minutes after.
And still did not let anyone in the building.
art bell
Well, at least nothing actually happened, right?
unidentified
No, nothing did.
Just a prank.
Evidently, a prank call is still being investigated, and if they can catch the culprit, he will be prosecuted to the fullest.
art bell
Yeah, unusual to have that happen.
I said earlier that Anchorage is kind of a close community.
unidentified
Yes, it is.
art bell
It's now a bigger city than when I lived there, but still, I'm sorry to hear it.
Anyway, welcome to the program.
What's up?
unidentified
Well, I wanted to let everyone know that I heard you call the last night when you had a lady from Fairbanks call.
Why would we live in Fairbanks at your blow?
art bell
Well, she, of course, has lived there all her life and knows nothing other than.
unidentified
Well, I lived there in 1964, and my oldest son was born at 75 below.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
25 below when I brought him home.
art bell
And thought him out.
unidentified
Yes.
And I stayed there until 67.
art bell
And you finally, and what drove you away, finally?
unidentified
Nothing.
I'm in Anchorage.
The only thing that threw me away from Fairbanks...
art bell
Anchorage is the banana belt compared to Fairbanks.
unidentified
Oh, yes, it is.
But see, I got washed out during the flood.
art bell
Oh, I see.
unidentified
They said it wasn't going to, you know, it wasn't going to be any problem when the snow melted.
It moved the river, which is on First Avenue.
It moved it to 6th Avenue.
art bell
Actually, a lot of people don't know this, but Anchorage is not, except for a couple of weeks maybe during the winter, not that bad.
Really, you get more snow in Wisconsin and places like that.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
art bell
And on average, it might even be colder.
But I have seen it just about, well, between now and about the middle of February, it can get down to 50 below an anchorage.
unidentified
I've seen that.
Well, it hasn't for the last 15, 20 years.
I'll grab it anchorage to 67.
February is the coldest.
I can remember back in all the early 80s, it got down to 25 below in Anchorage.
art bell
I remember 54 degrees below.
Now, I was outside of Anchorage, but...
Not that far out.
unidentified
Just down there.
If you were at Eagle River or down in Gerwood, yes, you'd get...
art bell
No.
All right, well, listen, do you have a prediction for us?
unidentified
I predict that your listing audience will double within the next year.
art bell
Listening, that would be really something.
I'm not sure there's that many people in the world.
unidentified
Well, you produce a show that is right on and really makes people think and question.
art bell
It does do that.
I hear a little tutoring in the background there.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes, we have a friend of ours that's been New Year's Eve with us, and she has all your books.
art bell
Even the newest one.
unidentified
Even the newest one.
And matter of fact, that's what she gave me for Christmas this year.
And last year, she gave me the Beijing and gave my wife the license responses provided.
art bell
Well, I thank you for the call and all that obvious support.
Thanks so much.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
art bell
Take care.
All right, that's Anchorage, Alaska.
Well, I guess they did have a bomb threat.
Shame so many cities down here in what they call the lower 48.
They say they call it other things down here, too.
We went through it without being scathed, basically.
He tells me the Naval Observatory clock screwed up.
Now, that would be something.
That apparently a report on a website about the Naval Observatory clock.
So there's going to be a lot that's going to happen over the next few days.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
How are you?
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
This is Tom from New Jersey.
art bell
Hi, Tom.
unidentified
Do you want to hear my prediction, or do you want to play the game first?
art bell
Well, I tell you, 2 o'clock is a cutoff, Tom, for the game.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
art bell
The $100 challenge.
unidentified
Okay, well, and I'll just give you my prediction.
All right.
art bell
Well, no, it's not 2 o'clock here yet.
So, I mean, you're still in the ballpark.
Let's hear your prediction.
unidentified
My prediction is that the biggest new internet service provider will be Kmart when they offer it for free.
art bell
You think they're going to do that?
unidentified
Yes, they are.
As a matter of fact, I know they're going to do it, and I think they're going to do very well.
Believe it or not, it's going to be called blue light.com.
art bell
You know what?
I think there's going to be a lot of that, a lot of free service.
It's not exactly free.
In other words, there's going to be advertising.
unidentified
Yeah, and I'm sure you have to answer questionnaires.
Yeah.
art bell
So you want to try this, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, what they want to tell you.
I know you play that song Heinrichman when Willie Nelson was on.
Yes.
Did you know that Jimmy Webb wrote that?
art bell
I think I did, yes.
unidentified
Yeah, it's very unusual for him, like.
art bell
It's a very unusual song.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
So, yeah, hit me with your rhythm stick.
art bell
All right.
Here it comes.
Listen very carefully.
unidentified
Oh, Red Spoon waves I don't care.
art bell
Oh, boy, you said that awful fast.
unidentified
How many songs do I have to get here?
art bell
That worries me.
All right.
Splay's with her.
unidentified
Okay, that's you Splay's with a wiggle with a wiggle when she walks.
I think it was the freshman, but I can't be certain about that.
art bell
Well, I'm not going to require you to get the artist right.
So, all right, here we go.
unidentified
Oh, that's the fourth season, Sherry Baby?
Oh, you're off.
I tell you what, instead of a check, I'll take a signed book.
art bell
Well, we're not done yet.
unidentified
You haven't won.
art bell
You've got to get all the way through the CD to make it.
unidentified
Go ahead.
art bell
All right, here we go.
unidentified
Oh, guys, it could be billion things.
art bell
Let me see.
Let me give it to you again, Bobby's Girl.
unidentified
Let me give it to you.
Let me give it to you.
art bell
All right, that's a pretty big piece there.
unidentified
Okay, well, is it?
It's a little too fast, but is it like Bobby's girl?
Will it be Bobby's Girl?
No.
art bell
You know what it is?
unidentified
do.
art bell
It was sung by It was sung by twins.
unidentified
Oh.
When you smile, when you smile at me.
art bell
It's a group called the Kalin Twins, and the name of the song is When.
unidentified
And you lose.
What year was that?
art bell
Long time ago.
I was like in the 50s.
unidentified
Well, I was 50s.
art bell
I didn't mean to make it easy.
unidentified
You know what?
I wanted to ask you one last thing was, did you ever heard that One Last Kiss version by Pearl Jam?
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
I've been wondering if you're ever going to run a plane those back-to-back.
art bell
Well, sure, probably I will.
unidentified
Okay, Art, listen.
We're going to have a good new year and best of luck.
art bell
Thank you so much.
Same to you.
West of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi there.
art bell
I want to try the oldies challenge.
You too, huh?
Yeah, I sure do.
We're coming up in the deadline.
You got eight minutes, and then so I'm going to take you through the rest of this CD.
Let me start you.
Hey, I know.
Let me start you right here.
unidentified
Win by the Caleb Twins.
art bell
All right?
unidentified
Good timing by Jimmy Jones.
art bell
Oh, man.
You're a dangerous one.
I can tell right away.
All right?
And then he kissed me.
Oh, my God.
You may be the one.
unidentified
Uh.
art bell
I could tell.
I could tell I got you.
Can you play the beginning of it?
Because you faded that in a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll give it to you.
All right, here we go.
unidentified
I'm Diana.
art bell
Oh, man, you got it.
I shouldn't have given you a second chance on that.
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
All right, well.
art bell
Maybe it's you.
unidentified
Oh, man.
art bell
You're going to do me in.
Welcome to Mary.
unidentified
Oh, man.
I should go to my hundred.
art bell
Wedding bell blues.
unidentified
Oh, brother.
art bell
This shit's too stock or it's in a skiff.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
God, you're just too good.
Not for the rising sun.
unidentified
Oh, man.
California-year-old.
art bell
Oh, brother.
You're a dangerous person.
unidentified
Thank you.
There ain't no.
Let's hang on to what we got.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
art bell
Oh, good.
Oh, thank God.
unidentified
Every time it's me, you're the one.
art bell
Oh, that's right.
You only got a few to go here.
richard c hoagland
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Okie-talk, woman, the stones.
unidentified
Wendy.
art bell
Wendy is right.
I had the center of your mind.
unidentified
At the journey to the center of your mind.
You're killing me here.
art bell
Green tambourine?
Green tambourine.
Yes.
Is that your final lemon fibers?
unidentified
Yeah, by your final lemon fibers, yes.
art bell
Now listen.
unidentified
Now listen.
Ryo silver in My tambourine.
art bell
Called tambourine man.
unidentified
Oh.
I think.
art bell
I don't think it's green tambourine, is it?
I thought it was green tambourine.
unidentified
Just put it right here.
art bell
Listen.
unidentified
My green tambourine.
art bell
Oh, God, you're right.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Here we go.
unidentified
Light my fire.
All right.
Summer song.
art bell
You just won $100.
unidentified
Saul.
art bell
You just ripped me off for $100.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
art bell
I appreciate that.
All right, hang on the line.
I'm going to have to get your name and address.
All right.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
In the last minute, I get Mr. Genius.
There goes $100.
Well, what the hell?
It's a millennium.
I'll send him a check.
unidentified
You've got to admit, that's...
Don't hit me.
art bell
I don't think she's real happy about that.
You got to admit he's good.
The guy's good, right?
All right.
Well, you get to take his name and address and write it right out the chat.
I can't believe it in the last minute here.
unidentified
For my content, I'd be picking the rap right now.
No, no, no, no.
art bell
I can't believe that guy.
He was really too good.
unidentified
We're going to be bringing him a few to Honolulu.
art bell
Honolulu, yes, coming up.
And also...
unidentified
Dakota and the Peete.
art bell
Coming up.
All right.
Well, I don't feel like saying anything else.
I just lost $100 in.
unidentified
you got it.
art bell
But we will indeed send him a personalized check, which he can either...
unidentified
He's going to call in terrifying.
art bell
He can frame it or he can cash it.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
The one I caught him on almost was Journey to the Center of the Mind, and Green Tambourine.
Nobody's that good.
Nobody's that good.
He's a ringer.
Anyway, we'll be back.
There goes my money.
unidentified
Happy New Year, Laura.
I know that it hurts me too to say goodbye to you.
Wish you didn't have to go, no, no, no.
And when the rain beats against my window pane, I'll think of summer days again and dream of you and
dream of you every time we meet.
art bell
AMA Porti, KXNT.
unidentified
Your local goodwill.
art bell
CBS News, I'm Steve Cathan.
It's the year 2000, now being welcomed in Hawaii.
Reporter Kai Maxwell of Affiliate KGU joins us live from Honolulu.
unidentified
Aloha, Steve, and Hauli Makahikiho, which means Happy New Year in Hawaiian.
The parties started early out here in Honolulu.
Public parties in Waikiki on the waterfront and in the middle of town.
Professional fireworks set off by several hotels over Waikiki.
But as you can probably hear, there are a lot of amateur fireworks going on as well.
Fireworks sales are legal here in Hawaii.
Even so, the Honolulu Police Department seized 14 tons of illegal aerial fireworks in the last week.
Firefighters got about 99 calls today, 77 of them fireworks related.
Lots of people opted to stay home this year.
Hotel prices doubled and tripled because of the Millennium Celebration, but we're happy to say that there have been no Y2K problems.
Power, telephone, emergency services, hospitals, everything is still working.
Reporting live from Honolulu, I'm Kai McFrawl for CBS News.
art bell
The new year is still very young in Hollywood, where CBS News correspondent David Dow joins us live.
unidentified
Here in Tinseltown, they welcomed the new millennium by turning the Hollywood sign into a giant blinking technicolor marquee.
At Paramount Studios, a black tie crowd danced to the music of a famous Hollywood name, Frank Sinatra Jr., and raised $2 million for children's library books.
Downtown, the new Staples Center featured the Eagles and other name entertainers.
And at five locations scattered around the city, there was free food, drink, and entertainment.
David tells CBS News Hollywood.
art bell
Two million saw in the new millennium in Times Square.
unidentified
I'm freeing, but I'm lucky, and I'm very happy.
art bell
He saw the big ball drop, which was followed by a street party that's still going on.
CBS News correspondent Dan Raviv says it was, for the most part, a safe and secure event.
unidentified
Security was unusually tight for such a public event.
8,000 police officers were on duty in and around these crossroads, keeping a close eye on people while also having friendly conversations with them, like a micro version of community policing.
If someone did look odd, and keep in mind a lot of beer was consumed, police asked questions.
And in this area, they did arrest at least 14 people, including a man who allegedly had a loaded rifle in his car.
art bell
In the nation's capital...
The End President Clinton was there, too, to ring in the 21st century.
All around the globe, the power's on, the phones are working, computers are churning out information, and ATMs are dishing out money.
No major problems, Y2K related.
This is CBS News.
You already know the Y2K.
familiar sound at midnight in London.
unidentified
Music playing.
art bell
Big Ben's thunderous chimes rang in the new millennium, along with fireworks high above the River Thames.
In Paris, there was a big light show at the Eiffel Tower, but power problems, blamed on recent storms, not Y2K glitches, blacked out the big countdown clock.
A Y2K terror scare at the Alexandria Bay-New York border crossing with Canada.
Border post was shut down for about three hours last night after a possible chemical residue was found in a car.
Experts were called in, but there were no explosives in the vehicle.
A lot of planning went into marking the millennium, and there was plenty of planning for cesarean births at Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis.
Jacob Wallman was born just after midnight, and his sister Jordan was delivered a minute after the stroke of 12.
Similar events with twins taking place at hospitals in Seattle, Fairfax, Virginia, Enid, Oklahoma, and Berlin, Germany.
Steve Cape and CBS News.
Nonsense.
unidentified
AMA...
art bell
This one is for my wife.
unidentified
You know, I need your love.
You got that hold over me.
But I'm just not going to show love.
You know that I'll never leave.
When I wanted you to share my life, I had no doubt in my mind.
And it's been you who run right down the line.
I know much I lean on you.
Only you can see the changes that have been shoved have left a mark on me.
You've been as close as another star, the brightest light that shines.
It's been you who mine right down the line.
I just wanna say this is my way.
I'm telling you everything I can ever say before.
Yes, this is my way.
I'm telling you everything I'm loving you.
art bell
It really does say it all.
Believe me, we've been through some dark nights.
She's been right there.
That would be Ramona.
Anyway, that's the same Ramona, by the way, who just bopped me on the head for losing $100 to a very, very talented Bob Fetty of Denver, Colorado.
Unbelievable.
In a million years, I would not have imagined anybody could have nailed all of those.
But he did it right down the line.
Congratulations, Bob.
I'll be writing out a check for $100 when I get off the air.
unidentified
Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
First-time callers may rechart at 1-775-727-1222.
And the wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
To rechart on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nye.
Yeah, there's a highway of telling you.
art bell
That's for Hawaii.
Welcome to the new Millennium, Hawaii.
And I guess the islands, the Tahitian Islands, welcome to the new millennium.
There's just one more to go now.
Samoa will close it out.
That's all the way around the globe, and that's in about 50 minutes.
Samoa, in about 50 minutes.
So we've kind of taken it all the way around.
Well, not all the way around, but the majority of it, anyway.
Back to the lines.
We're taking predictions, and I guess I better read a few more of them to you.
unidentified
Let's see.
art bell
We finished up that page.
All right.
79 was that a Cassini probe would re-enter the Earth on August 17th.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
Thank God it did not.
unidentified
Number 80.
art bell
A computer company assets will be frozen.
Not that I'm aware of.
That's a bonk.
Number 81.
Governor Ventura body slams opponent.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
He sure did.
art bell
Number 80.
And that was impossible then.
Number 82, strong evidence for ETs.
Well, you know me.
I'm going to ding that one.
Ding, ding, ding.
There have been a number of things that I would consider strong evidence.
Number 83, that I will have the opportunity to interview Neil Diamond.
Well, I didn't interview him on the air, but in fact, I met him in person during the year.
So I'm going to give that a ding.
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Take that picture with him, too.
Number 84, I'm not going to give on the air.
Number 85, on September 12th, the king of terror will arrive.
That must have been Curtis, but short now.
So I'm going to have to give that a bonk, actually.
Number 86, Microsoft will be broken up.
Well, the fight is on, but it hasn't happened yet that I'm aware of bonk.
Let's see.
Number 87, I'm not going to give that any airplay.
Number 88, liberals will get guns before Y2K and the UN takes over.
Bonk.
Number 89, implant revelations.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
art bell
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
What going on in that area?
Number 90, bioterrorism.
Bonk.
Not yet, thank God.
Number 91, three days of darkness.
Bonk.
Not yet.
Except up in Fairbanks where they've had even more than that.
Number 92, New Year's postponed in August.
New Year's postponed in August.
I don't know what that means, but it's bonk.
Number 93, first over Unity device demonstrated.
I give that an absolute bonk, and I know I will get all kinds of mail on that, but I have yet to see one demonstrated to me.
Number 94.
He didn't, did he?
No.
unidentified
He didn't.
art bell
Or did he?
I really don't know.
No, it's an oh, a bonk, or I'd ever know from the other room.
Number 96, U.S. Constitution suspended.
I get a lot of those.
Bonk.
Number 97, first contact with Earth.
unidentified
Bonk.
art bell
At least nothing official.
Number 98, several 7.0 or larger earthquakes.
There have been.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, including one close to me.
Number 99, Al Gore becomes president.
Well, not yet.
Bonk.
Number 100, Al Gore not elected president.
Well, you've got to give that a ding.
An opportunity for there to be an election yet.
Coming to the end of them here.
Number 101, Year of the Angels.
I'm going to give that a ding.
I mean, Angels have been really big this year.
And then number 102.
Oh, would you look at the last one on my list?
Weather record-breaking.
Record-breaking weather in 1999.
Ding, ding, ding.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
All right, that's it.
That completes the list of predictions made in 1998 for 1999.
Now, to get on my list, you have only 45 minutes to register your prediction for next year.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
All right, it's great to talk to you.
And, oh, hello, Romana.
You know what?
What?
I just thought it'd be great to call you and tell you that, well, in a way, I'm kind of bummed that nothing happened here in Portland, Oregon.
My name is Chandra.
art bell
You're bummed about it?
unidentified
Well, only slightly.
art bell
Well, look, Y2K, if that's what you're bummed about, is not over by a long shot.
I think a lot of people around the country think that because nothing happened at midnight, for which I'm thankful, that means Y2K is over.
Well, wrong.
unidentified
I know, which I totally understand and agree with you.
But I have a lot of people that have been giving me a lot of, well, you know what.
Yeah.
And the thing of it is that I just kind of wish that at least the lights would have blinked a little bit here in Portland.
But that's okay because I keep telling them that if they aren't ready for anything, I mean, two years ago, I was ready and we had a snowstorm and a freezing rain like crazy and I was ready.
Yeah, there it is.
Right.
art bell
No, it's good to be ready no matter what.
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
Because inevitably, what you don't expect is going to happen.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
So don't be bummed out.
unidentified
I'm not really bummed out.
art bell
Maybe we should all be rather joyful that there wasn't trouble right at the new year because it would have been real trouble.
unidentified
Well, of course.
Because I also have a daughter expecting a baby in another time zone.
And so I was kind of getting a little hyper here.
But other than that.
art bell
You want to make a prediction?
unidentified
Yes, actually I would.
art bell
Number 70.
unidentified
All right.
I feel that more people are going to go to more natural...
How should I put this?
I keep trying to figure out how to put this.
Maybe Ramona could help me.
I am into...
Oh, well, yes, but see, I'm into natural herbs and I plant and I gather.
Evelyn Paglini, when I heard her tonight, I was so excited.
It was awesome.
art bell
Well, she's awesome.
She is.
So, all right, fine.
So people will gravitate more toward natural remedies and potions.
unidentified
Exactly.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Art.
You're very welcome.
And Ramona, you, both Al and your son, have a wonderful new year.
art bell
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Oh, you're very welcome.
Take care.
art bell
All right.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
art bell
You would have been.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello, Horace.
Chris in Fairbanks.
How you doing?
unidentified
Oh, it's a little out.
Really?
art bell
50 below?
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
I threw coffee outside and turned into brown snow.
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
At this, let's see, at this time of night, there would be, at this time of year, there would be no, virtually, no sun.
Well, we got about three hours of sun today.
Three hours of the sun, huh?
unidentified
And I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.
I don't know if it was the sun or the moon.
art bell
Well, as I recall, the sun kind of comes up to the horizon and then quickly goes down.
unidentified
That's pretty much what it does: it waves as it flies by.
art bell
You're right.
And it goes up two degrees and just about.
unidentified
I got two things for you.
art bell
One is a cat story I think you'll get a kick out of.
unidentified
My parents picked up a 15-pound tomcat, an outdoor cat.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And about two months ago, it got attacked by three dogs.
art bell
And so they took it to the vet because its rearing got torn up.
unidentified
Well, about a week or two ago, they hear this racket going on outside.
My dad's outside looking around.
art bell
He sees this tomcat, O'Malley, jump on top of a full-grown black Labrador retriever and attack it.
Oh, I like stories like that.
Cats usually lose.
But, boy, I'll tell you, if a cat can get on a dog's back, it's going to be a ride.
unidentified
Well, the vet said this thing is the size of a bobcat.
So it gives you an idea of how big it is.
art bell
Well, cats rarely win, so it's interesting to hear such a story.
unidentified
Yeah, my dad had to pull him up before he hurt the dog.
Oh, geez.
art bell
I've got some pretty big cats, but nothing like that.
unidentified
Well, my prediction is that by the end of this year, there's going to be some new technology to replace fossil fuels for a power system.
And it won't be solar, and it won't be wind.
art bell
It'll be something better.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
I hope you're right.
You better be right because things are changing fast.
unidentified
Yeah, it'll be nice, too, when it happens because it'll get us off.
Everybody up here in Alaska is worried about oil and stuff, trying to base the economy on fossil fuels.
Luckily, the university is trying to push it for a like silat launching system.
art bell
A lot of people in the lower 48 here don't understand that people who live in Alaska for a certain amount of time get a check every year, an oil royalty.
Are they still doing that?
unidentified
Yeah, and thankfully they've moved away so much from oil.
Now they're investing in the stock market and investing in other markets.
art bell
So most of the money now is they're trying to get it away from the oil and put it into other areas so we can still get their residual income.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah, so they're actually starting to think ahead now, which is pretty impressive.
art bell
They're trying to cap it this year, but they voted against it.
That's really something.
What's going on with population in Alaska?
Is it continuing to increase or decrease or remaining roughly stable or what's going on?
unidentified
Well, I guess anchorage is increasing pretty much, but up here in Fairbanks, it fluctuates.
One year is larger, one year is lower.
It depends how many people are at the military, how many are up at the college, that type of thing.
art bell
Well, I would really like to come back to Alaska.
And I told my wife I wanted to come to Alaska, and she said, well, fine, buy me a fur coat.
And if you buy me a fur coat, I'll go.
And so I bought her a fur coat, and I really ought to book a flight up to Fairbanks.
unidentified
Oh, you ought to, especially around, actually later this month or early in February.
It'd be the best time to come up here.
art bell
When she's hovering around 60 or 65 below?
unidentified
Oh, no, it won't get down that low this year.
art bell
No?
We had a Chinook last week.
unidentified
They got up to 34.
art bell
Yeah, I heard that.
Everybody actually was complaining.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Well, he got up to 50 above in North Pole.
A friend of mine likes 50 below, so he was kind of...
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
I appreciate your call, sir.
All right, thank you.
Thank you.
And that was prediction number 71.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Who are?
unidentified
Hello.
How are you?
art bell
Oh, quite well.
unidentified
Okay, first of all, I've got to tell you some kind of freaky thing that happened here in Portland, Maine.
White whales came into the harbor, and that's the first time in like a...
This occurred the day before the time changeover to the new millennium.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
White whales came into the harbor and just at that same time, the whole street, this is towards the waterfront in Portland, Maine, dogs were barking.
art bell
Well, that's really odd.
unidentified
That's strange.
Something about your type of music that you listen to, and perhaps I'll talk to you off the air about it, you know, if we can go on hold of something.
And I have a gentleman that's up here that's like the Bob Crane, only he's in music.
He's been a disc jockey, and I won't mention his name or anything, but he can get you anything either on vinyl or on.
art bell
Oh, listen, I have sources you wouldn't know.
I'm fixed up there.
unidentified
But anyway, my prediction is that you will double your finances due to winnings.
art bell
Winnings?
I just lost $100.
unidentified
No, I mean like a good gamble.
art bell
Good gamble.
A good gamble.
unidentified
A good gamble.
art bell
All right.
Well, I've been known to gamble, not the type of gambling that goes on here in Nevada, but other kinds of gambling.
Thank you.
It's better than ending up in the hospital.
That's one I had earlier.
unidentified
And by the way, my daughter, the one that referred you to the name as like, how long was it now?
She referred you to the desert riot.
Oh, yes.
As to you living in the desert, and she assumed that you had like doom buggies and stuff.
She laughed.
She, quite frankly, laughed a lot about the fact that you were going to send this Daryl guy from the TV station home.
And that's what she was telling all her friends.
She says, did you kick a toolbox clear across the floor, and he was going to send this guy home.
art bell
All right, sir, I've got a scoot.
As a matter of fact, I didn't do a break, and I either catch up here or they send somebody to get me.
so let me take care of you.
THE END Commercials are more effective if you use real people.
unidentified
So on the line is Angie McPhee, a Geico auto insurance customer who saved over $300.
This is not an actor we hired to play Angie McPhee.
It's the Angie McPhee.
So in your own words, tell us, are you Angie McPhee?
Yes.
There.
Unmistakable proof that Geico customers are real and save money.
art bell
In 15 minutes, you could save 15%.
unidentified
Call 1-800-947-AUTO, 1-800-947-A-U-T-O.
Geico Direct, the sensible alternative.
Oh, and Roger, please don't.
art bell
Gobble all the poppy words.
unidentified
Not to worry much.
Because I really like these movie nights at Tom and Rosie.
Maybe true.
Okay, then.
Okay.
Wait.
What?
Can you smell that?
Oh, see, here we go.
Drop adorable red and pockets in there.
Oh, Roger.
I can smell through the mail shop.
I'll block you, Dad.
You're that door, all right.
Hey, guys.
I just popped out somewhere.
Roger thing is rosy.
art bell
Only one popcorn is this irresistible.
unidentified
Only orange.
Is it always like this?
Only with organs.
Can we still come in?
art bell
Friends, this is Larry King.
Most of you know me as a straight shooter, so when I endorse a product or a company, it's because I actually use their products.
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And with my heart history, that's really important.
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For women over 40, there's Rejuvex, the SunSource menopausal supplement, recommended by leading nutritionist Anne Louise Gittleman.
Look for these SunSource products at food, drug, or discount stores.
unidentified
And to learn more about the full line of SunSource products, visit sunsource.com.
And look, make SunSource your source for health.
art bell
You know, that reminds me, we just had a commercial by Larry King, the first one I've ever had.
And I was on Larry's show, and he promised me he would come on my program, a promise he has not kept yet.
So any of you with connections to Larry King, email him, write him, remind him, he promised to come on my program.
And he's been back trying to get me back on his program again.
And I sent a message back to the producer, now a new person, and said, Larry promised to come on mine.
So if you have any sway with Larry, remind him he promised to come on my program.
And I promised to play this record.
unidentified
So here it is.
art bell
Couldn't let the night go without it.
I'm Art Bell.
unidentified
I was a highwayman.
Along the coast roads I did ride.
Sword and pistol by my side.
Many a young maid lost her bottles to my trade.
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.
The master taunted me in the spring of 25.
But I am still alive.
I was a sailor.
I was born upon the tide with a tree I did am I sailed a schooner now.
art bell
AMA 40, KXNT.
unidentified
The Dow's up.
Now that we're waiting, send your camel to bed.
Shadows faint in our faces.
Straight in.
There's a romance in our hands.
Everything's cold in our head.
Strong just for us.
Let's live off to a day.
Kick up a little bit.
Come on.
Can't live on it.
We want the way to land.
Wanna take a ride?
Call Art Bell from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
art bell
First ride callers may reach Art at 1-775-727-1222.
unidentified
The wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
And to call ART on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
This is Coast to Coast AM with ourselves from the Kingdom of Nine.
art bell
Well, this absolutely marks my longest show.
It's going to be an eight-hour show in about 24 and a half minutes.
And it will be the new year in Samoa, which is the last time zone at the top of this coming hour.
And we will have gone all the way around.
unidentified
I know your dad was so happy.
I know that no.
art bell
And I think I'll take a bit of a break, as we all will, and then we'll see what next week brings.
It's going to be an interesting week this coming week.
It may well be that a lot of what we didn't notice tonight, we will notice next week.
Actually, we want to hope not, but I know some of that is coming for small business, so it could be a bit of a bumpy ride as we all try to resume business next week.
But that's still a long way away.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
art bell
All they hear is a.
All right, here we go.
The final segment and the millennium racing toward its final destination on Earth, Samoa.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, the impeccable art Bell.
How are you, sir?
art bell
I'm reasonably well for a guy who just blew $100.
unidentified
Yeah, I heard about that.
That's too bad.
Sorry.
This is Chris from Peoria, Illinois.
art bell
Yes, Chris.
unidentified
A couple of different things.
First, I'd like to convey a hope for the new millennium as well as a prediction.
First of all, my hope is that the people of the United States will realize that the legalization of marijuana is a necessity.
art bell
Oh, I think the people of the U.S. have long now realized that.
Or at least, I don't know about necessity.
I'm not sure that's the right word.
Well, maybe it is.
Maybe it is necessary to revisit the whole question of marijuana.
The trouble is we came up with a president who, you know, had that stupid remark that he made that blew any chance of...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I see where you're coming from.
Just from a medicinal standpoint, I believe that marijuana should at least be legalized from that point of view.
Well, of course.
art bell
There have been ballot initiatives, as you know.
True.
And there probably is going to be more of that.
I mean, eventually it's going to move that way.
unidentified
But we just can't seem to cross the line to get it finalized.
art bell
Yeah, I hear you.
unidentified
Yeah.
As far as the prediction, this may have been mentioned earlier.
I'm not positive.
But in the year 2000, I believe that the first human clone will be perfected?
art bell
I don't think it's been mentioned.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Somebody did predict that for last year, and I bonked it because we don't know about it.
unidentified
This will definitely be the year.
art bell
But you're saying it'll be a public matter?
unidentified
Yeah, it'll be in the public eye, but the time has come for the people to actually see the benefits of cloning, also from a standpoint of giving people extended lives from donated organs.
art bell
From your clone.
unidentified
Exactly.
Exactly.
art bell
And not a lot of people consider that to be a big benefit.
I mean, you do if you need a liver, for example.
Well, yes, sure, sure.
But the clone is its own individual person.
Even though it's identical, it will have, because of environmental considerations and everything else, it'll be a human being.
unidentified
True.
As far as we know, that's true.
art bell
Well, yeah, ripping its organs out on need or request, you know, it's not going to go over real well with that person.
unidentified
I think the problem that a lot of people have is they assume that the clone will automatically be enabled with a soul.
And by looking at it that way, I can see where from a vantage point of like a religion, it's a touchy subject for people.
art bell
Well, I know if it was me, I'd say, I have a soul.
Keep your hands off my liver.
unidentified
True, true.
art bell
But I do agree with you that we are that close, and we probably will clone a human.
For better or for worse, we're going to clone a human.
unidentified
Oh, I hope so.
I hope so.
art bell
All right, sir.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Thank you and take care.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi.
art bell
Hi.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Very important.
This is Dave from Kingdom of the Night.
art bell
From where?
unidentified
The Kingdom of the Night.
art bell
Oh, here in Prump?
unidentified
Yeah, gotcha again.
No kidding.
Welcome.
art bell
Proceed.
unidentified
I predict for the population of Prump to increase 30,000 more.
art bell
30,000 in one year?
unidentified
Double.
art bell
Oh, man.
You could be right.
unidentified
The freeway.
The freeway is why.
art bell
Yeah, I know.
The population of Prump doubles in one year.
That would be too much.
Yeah, you could be right.
unidentified
Yeah, it looks like it's going that way.
art bell
Me?
You know what I want?
That Walmart.
Where the hell is our Walmart?
If we had a Walmart out here, life would be complete.
unidentified
It's supposed to have been on its way a couple of times.
I know.
art bell
I know.
I've heard all the rumors, but I don't see any ground moving around for a Walmart yet.
unidentified
Well, I think that's where the population, when it comes in, that's what will come with it.
art bell
I appreciate your call, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you.
Oh, by the way, that's number 74.
unidentified
Okay, and maybe you can get that pizza punch.
Market is for next year.
art bell
We'll see what we can do.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, take care.
Easy to the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Ooh.
art bell
Now, that did not sound good at all.
unidentified
What the hell was that?
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, happy you, Jerry Art.
art bell
Same to you.
unidentified
This isn't Arnie in balmy downtown Fairbanks, Alaska.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
I had a prediction.
I believe that you and Ramona will be involved in a highly successful business venture centered around the design and marketing of a line of clothing.
Casual clothing.
Really?
Yeah, based on the Night People theme.
This will be very popular with the younger generation.
I really just have a gut feeling that it's going to be.
art bell
Well, Ramona might certainly do something like that, but when it comes to me and clothing, if I didn't have Ramona, I'd be wearing the same thing every day.
unidentified
Well, so would I if I didn't have my weapon.
art bell
Well, that's an interesting prediction.
It's number 75, by the way.
Oh, thank you.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
So we'll see.
unidentified
Thank you, Eric.
art bell
All right.
Take care.
unidentified
Me?
art bell
You know the piece of punch I do have?
That's all over my clothing.
First time call our line, you're on the air.
unidentified
All right, how you doing?
Happy New Year.
art bell
And same to you, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
Buffalo, New York.
art bell
Buffalo.
Yes.
unidentified
Hey, I was wondering, did you happen to hear about the reference to yourself in the February issue of Guitar Player Magazine?
No.
art bell
What did they say?
unidentified
Well, it's an interview with Billy Gibbons, a ZZ Top.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And apparently on their new album, CD, whatever, they have a song called Dreadman Boogaloo.
art bell
They do indeed.
I've got a copy of it here.
Okay.
And they use Ross Mitchell, my announcer, East of the Rockies, West of the Rockies, Wild Guard Live.
unidentified
Okay, well, it says that the name of the song is based on the reggae expression Dread, which means the feared or cool.
So a Dreadman is sort of a dude in the know.
That part of the title was inspired by Art Vowel, who is the host of a late-night a.m. radio show we tune in after working in the studio.
art bell
I know, I was so honored by that.
I mean, ZZ Top.
That's sort of a way of being immortalized.
Sure.
You know, so I was very honored.
Sure thing.
unidentified
And I am pleased that he has such good taste as a listen to the same radio as I do.
art bell
Oh, that's kind.
But I did not know it was in that magazine.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
I'll be doing it.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks for the information.
Wildcardline, you're on the air, hi.
unidentified
Ah, hello, Art.
This is Tony from Geary, Indiana.
Hi, Tony.
And I wish you a very, very good new year.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
And I hope none of this bad stuff comes up for you.
All good.
I'll get right to it.
I do believe that in this year, there will be a nuclear exchange.
Oh.
It may only be in one direction, but there will definitely be an aggressive use of a nuclear weapon.
art bell
Yeah, you've got to believe we're getting closer, and it's going to happen eventually.
unidentified
It's frightening, but I think things are getting out of hand, and I think there's enough time, and it just seems to be running that way.
It may not be major, but it'll be enough to really stir things up because it's only happened once before.
art bell
I appreciate your call, sir, and that's number 76.
And, you know, I don't necessarily disagree with this caller.
Probably India and Pakistan, possibly North Korea, and possibly something we don't even imagine, one of the suitcase nukes.
Who knows?
But with a little bit of luck, there'll be a small loss of life if it occurs.
And it will remind the world again why you don't use those things.
But I have a sneaky feeling the scholar is correct.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
How you doing?
art bell
Okay.
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
Yeah, I just turn it off.
My name's Sean.
I'm in Delaware.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I'm also a ham operas.
When Scallion was on, he talking about the sunspots?
art bell
Yeah, he was right, by the way.
There is a storm going on right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, when the sunspots increase, doesn't the radio wave propagation increase?
art bell
Yes, as a general rule, as the number of sunspots increase, propagation gets better and better on the short wave bands, yes.
unidentified
Prediction.
I predict that there are going to be more and more UFO sightings and possibly landings.
art bell
I'd agree with that.
More UFO sightings and maybe a landing, huh?
unidentified
I'm just a technician right now, but I'm working on the upgrade.
art bell
Well, they just...
You heard about that, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, they recently.
I know the code, but I just haven't had time to go up there and take the darn test.
art bell
A lot of older hams are going to really raise hell about that.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
art bell
You know what?
They're wrong.
They're wrong.
And I appreciate your call, sir.
What the commission has done is to reduce the code requirement for all classes of license, including the highest, to five words per minute, which is very, very slow and very easy to obtain.
And I'm glad they've done it.
It will increase the number of hands, and I don't think the fear of the quality of the people obtaining licenses will be justified.
I think that you'll find that we'll still get a good group of people, and the technical test is still there, so they've got to know what they're doing.
Welcome to the Rockies.
You're on the air, huh?
richard c hoagland
Hi there.
This is Olin in Culver City.
art bell
Yes, sir.
richard c hoagland
I think that Boris Yeltsin stepped down to let a younger, more energetic leader for winning the war in Chechnya and building the New World Order.
unidentified
So I predict that Russia will conquer the Chechen oil fields next year.
art bell
Well, I'd say you're probably right about that.
This is a guy pursuing a victory in Chechnya, and I'm sure now he will really have his way, and there's going to be, who knows what's going to occur over there.
unidentified
Well, that's right.
richard c hoagland
I understand that he's a military leader, so that could be bad.
art bell
Do you find it, as a matter of fact, he's a former KGB and spy.
Do you find it strange that there has been no U.S. reaction yet to the fact that Yeltsin just, I don't even think they knew in Washington that it was going to happen.
richard c hoagland
Well, a lot of these things are done when there's something else taking up all the news headlines like Y2K and New Year's Eve.
So whatever did happen got buried in the Y2K New Year's Eve celebration.
art bell
Well, it did.
You're right.
But in a way, it also scared the hell out of me.
I mean, here I was the night before, and the millennium was just breaking when Yeltsin went on TV and resigned.
And do you think he resigned or was resigned?
richard c hoagland
Well, I think that he was resigned because they need to win that war in Chechnya and get those oil fields.
And if we're going to have a new world order next year, we need a younger, more energetic leader of the Soviet Union.
unidentified
I mean, the rest of the world.
art bell
We're not going to have a new world order.
Well, I hope not.
I think you're right about Chechnya, but I don't think you're right about the New World Order.
unidentified
Well, thank you very much for doing this.
art bell
Nevertheless, your prediction is registered number 78.
unidentified
Oh, good.
art bell
All right.
richard c hoagland
Thank you.
art bell
You got International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Oh, hi, Eric.
Hi.
unidentified
Calling from Canada?
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Vancouver Island.
Okay.
Has anybody mentioned the royal family today?
No.
Okay, well, I'm going to say that Prince Charles becomes king.
art bell
For sure.
Prince Charles becomes king.
unidentified
Yeah, and I'm not going to call him the Antichrist.
art bell
With a cup of tea or something?
unidentified
No, no, I think he's a false prophet.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Not the Antichrist.
Yeah, yeah.
art bell
Yeah, I don't think he's the Antichrist either.
unidentified
But, you know, like, you remember the Brookings report?
art bell
Of course.
unidentified
Well, I think the problems still exist, you know, like look at how people have started freaking out about Y2K.
art bell
Actually, actually, people, by and large, really didn't freak out about Y2K.
It was done rather smoothly, I thought, and you've got to give the authorities some marks, good marks for that around the world.
They did pretty well.
unidentified
Yeah, the handled was pretty good.
And so what about the landing?
What better person to tell the world that the aliens aren't that bad than a non-threatening person like the King of England?
art bell
A lot of people respect them.
A cup of tea.
unidentified
Yeah.
I have a good one, Eric.
art bell
Right, you two.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Yeah, Art.
Yes.
richard c hoagland
This is Ron from Dead Man Lake, Alaska.
art bell
Hi, Ron.
Hi.
Boy, now there's a name, Dead Man Lake.
richard c hoagland
Yeah, well, you know, I sent you a video a couple years ago.
I don't know if you remember getting it.
unidentified
I fly a score and crossbone flag out in front.
art bell
I do that, too.
I do it in the back, but I occasionally fly it.
I think we've got the French flag up there right now.
richard c hoagland
You don't remember me sending you that video then?
art bell
I vaguely do, but...
richard c hoagland
Well, anyway, we've got about 62 below out here for the last two days now.
art bell
62 below.
unidentified
62 below.
art bell
Where exactly are you?
unidentified
We're towards Manley Hot Springs.
richard c hoagland
That'll be about 80 miles west of Fairbanks.
art bell
West of Fairbanks.
Oh, man, you are out in the middle of nowhere.
richard c hoagland
Yeah, well, I live on a fly-in remote lake.
In fact, I don't have anybody around me right now for 10 miles away.
art bell
So you're using what?
You obviously don't have a telephone there.
unidentified
Oh, actually, you know, I used to have a radio telephone, and I bought this cell phone, and I bounced off of the mountain and picked the signal up from the tower near Fairbanks.
art bell
No kidding.
Yeah, no kidding.
Well, it's working very well.
Actually, you sound better than a lot of people who are using portable phones down here.
unidentified
Yeah, isn't it amazing?
art bell
Yeah, absolutely amazing.
Yeah, well, it is.
richard c hoagland
Well, I'll tell you, Art, if you ever get up this way, you'll have to come out to the real bush.
This is the way to live.
art bell
You're in the real bush, all right.
richard c hoagland
No electricity, no running water.
Chop a hole through three to five feet ice to get my water.
unidentified
And how the hell do you keep warm?
Right now, I got my wood stove 400 degrees.
It's just people stuffing the wood in there.
Me and my three cats.
art bell
Do you have three cats?
richard c hoagland
Yeah, three cats.
art bell
I imagine they stay pretty close to that wood stove.
richard c hoagland
They do.
unidentified
Yeah.
They do.
art bell
Cats love warm places.
unidentified
Oh, they do.
art bell
And it's so great to talk to you, Art.
unidentified
I just, you know, I know a lot of people out in the bush listen to you.
And you'd never hear from them because most people don't have communication out here.
I hear you.
art bell
Listen, I've got one last number 80 prediction if you would like to make it.
richard c hoagland
Yes, I would.
unidentified
And I predict that the stock market is going to take a big rise.
art bell
How big?
unidentified
I think it's going to go through the roof.
I think it's going to be fantastic this year.
richard c hoagland
Especially since this Y2K thing didn't turn out to be as bad as everybody thought.
art bell
I think you're making a really, really good point.
richard c hoagland
Yeah, in fact, another prediction, I predicted after this cold snaps over, I'm going to go to Hawaii for a week.
art bell
In other words, even for a hardened Alaskan, 62 below is pushing it a little bit, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I've been out here for six winters now, so it's as cold as I care to see it, you know.
art bell
I hear you.
Well, listen, you qualify, I think, as my most remote caller of the night.
unidentified
Well, thank you, Art.
And it's great talking to you, and keep it up.
art bell
Well, listen, tell everybody from the middle of nowhere good night.
richard c hoagland
Well, you know, we were going to have a big New Year's party tonight, but everybody had to cancel because it was too cold for the snow machines and the dog sleds tonight.
unidentified
So we were going to have a log cabin party about 15 miles from here, and my friends Bill and Cheryl canceled out.
art bell
Well, tell them good night.
richard c hoagland
Okay, Art.
art bell
Good night.
Good night.
That's it, folks.
That's eight hours in a row.
unidentified
Boy.
art bell
Long haul.
Long haul, but it was fun.
unidentified
Happy New Year, everyone.
art bell
Happy New Year, everyone.
unidentified
Samoa?
art bell
Yep, Samoa is about to welcome the millennium, and that will make it complete all the way around the earth.
That'll be, oh, about two and a half minutes from right now.
For me, that's it from the high desert, Art and Ramona.
Good night, all.
AMA 40, KXNT.
Ever wanted to see some local news?
We bring you the world.
unidentified
We bring you the world.
CBS News, I'm about to live in Appia, Samoa, in the world's last time zone.
It was a long wait here on this South Pacific island, but midnight has just arrived, and people here have joined the rest of the world in welcoming the year 2000.
Outside, fireworks are going off over the South Pacific, while here inside the Susa Sala Hotel, the party's going strong.
Samoa is just a short distance from the island of Tunga, where midnight first came 25 hours ago, the extra hour because of daylight savings time.
Here on the other side of the date line, the arrival of midnight means the entire globe has now entered the 21st century.
I'm Bob Fuzz live in Ambia, Samoa.
Now for more CBS News, here's Steve Davis.
art bell
The new year is an hour old in Hawaii.
Fireworks in the 50th state marking the new millennium.
The big year 2000 party was in Times Square, and CBS News correspondent Dan Raviv was there.
unidentified
All went well when the multicolored ball made of almost 700 halogen lights plus mirrors came down the pole high above Times Square.
The lights didn't come out on Broadway.
What happened to Washington Bay?
It didn't happen.
Here's a plot.
Here's a plot.
New Yorkers and out-of-towners totaling around one and a half million people filled Times Square.
Kind of crushing in from the back here.
It's a little tight squeeze, that's all.
But it's a lot of fun.
Yeah, change the animal.
It's worth it.
Definitely worth it because it's the millennium.
Dan Reveeves, CBS News, Times Square, New York.
art bell
In Washington, the ball was packed with people for fireworks and singing.
President Clinton toasted the 20th century and he looked ahead.
unidentified
Never before have we had such a blessed opportunity and therefore such a profound responsibility to build the more perfect union of our founders' dreams.
art bell
In London, CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier watched the celebration there.
unidentified
It's a thing of faith and looking straight up.
A million people are down here waving fast forwards and Millennium flags.
We're right in the middle of the fireworks display over the River Thames.
This is the biggest fireworks display London has ever seen.
A fitting way to bring in Y2K to Britain.
Kimberly Dosiers, CBS News, London.
art bell
The Millennium Bug didn't bite.
All around the globe, things for the most part seem to be working normally.
Just minor problems here and there.
No blackouts, no ATM problems.
And Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater says people are having no trouble getting around.
unidentified
There have been no significant interruptions or Y2K-related difficulties in aviation or for that matter in other modes of transportation, rail, maritime, highways, transit, and pipelines.
art bell
There was a problem with time at the U.S. Naval Observatory.
Right after the year 2000 was welcomed along the East Coast, the webpage for the observatory claimed the year was 19,100.
But there was no problem with the master clock at the Naval Observatory, which loses a second every 3 million years.
This is CBS News.
Friends, this is Larry King.
Most of you know me as a straight shooter, so when I endorse a product or a company, it's cooked.
One person glad to see the year 2000 is Matt Sanders.
The 23-year-old Texas college student survived for nearly a week on a Swiss mountain.
He found shelter under a rock, protection from hurricane force winds and sub-zero temperatures.
He's in a hospital now.
He's okay, but he may lose some toes because of frostbite.
In Olata, Kansas, a woman who said she was upset over losing her job took hostages at a bank.
The standoff ended an hour after midnight when the woman surrendered.
No one was hurt.
A lot of people rang in the new year traditionally with champagne, but in New Orleans, it was a Bloody Mary, and there was plenty to go around.
And DeCon Abbey helped serve it out of a 10-foot-tall glass.
unidentified
Nobody has ever created a Bloody Mary this day.
art bell
And in New Orleans style, typically they said goodbye to 1999 with a jazz funeral.
Steve Cape and CBS News.
unidentified
Nonsense.
art bell
Who says you can't eat the foods you love?
Hello, this is Art Val.
What you are about to hear is a special new millennium tape featuring futurist Gordon Michael Scallion and technical remote viewer Ed Dames.
Major Ed Dames.
Now, I've interviewed Scallion several times in the past.
He's the real McCoy.
His predictions for our future leave most of us underwater or with Beachfront property.
Be forewarned, much of the content of this program may be disturbing and is not meant for the faint of heart.
Now, let's find out who Gordon Michael Scallion is and what may be in store for us.
Gordon Michael Scallion, in the middle of a business meeting, law, middle of a presentation, they took him to the hospital.
He had some serious experiences in the hospital.
He saw visions.
He saw a woman who told him certain things were going to happen within 30 days.
unidentified
They did happen.
art bell
In successive years, he treated as many as 10,000 people with what he saw and was able to see about these people, the medical things, what was wrong with them, what might correct it under some conditions, about two-thirds of the time.
And then that phase ended, that predictive medical help phase ended, and another phase began.
Gordon saw things.
The easy way to explain it is three TV screens with three possible futures for an individual or for a continent or, I suppose, the world.
And one of these screens would be brighter than the others, or perhaps there would be gradients between them, and the brightest would be the most likely, and so forth.
I think you get the idea.
At any rate, the phase with helping people personally ended.
And then what happened, Gordon?
gordon michael scallion
Then I began to have a series of nightmares.
Again, I had this one dream where I was told that that part of my life, that work that I was doing, was over, and that I would very shortly have a new series of things that I would be doing and would need to do.
And it was very vague, very vague, rather.
So the Second night, I began to see the Earth as the same way that I would see people on my screens.
I would see three different Earths.
And each night I would see things happening, such as volcanoes would erupt.
And then I would look at a city, for example, and I would see the city in one color, and the other two screens would be different colors.
One would be very vibrant, the other would be almost gray or black.
art bell
Just the way you look.
gordon michael scallion
Same way.
And it was at that point that it just hit me.
I mean, I should have known this all my life as a child.
I just didn't.
I didn't get it.
But I realized that the Earth was sentient.
It was a living entity with its own consciousness, obviously different than ours, but yet able to communicate just as we do if we only took the time to listen.
And I think the natives, peoples of the world, have always done that.
And I just think in our busy society, we have just shut down so many things of our awareness.
art bell
I'm just a lay observer with regard to the weather, but it's obvious there is a profound change underway.
Now, the only question I have as a casual observer is, is this change we're in short and cyclical or long and profound and serious?
What are we into?
More tornadoes?
You were right about that.
You called that one on the money.
And violent weather all over the place.
Now, what are we in for?
Where are we going with this?
Is it going to get better or worse?
gordon michael scallion
Actually, this is part of a cycle.
El Niño is a cycle, but it's forced scientists to rethink cycles.
It's forced them to look at things much differently because they were much longer, much more intense than they ever had been before.
And it seems like we've been in this cycle for years now.
And what we're seeing is each year we're seeing an increase in the amount of weather-related destruction.
You know, in December of last year, for my predictions for 99, the key things that I saw, at least for the United States, was record numbers of tornadoes and floods that far exceeded the floods that I had predicted for 93, the Mississippi floods, far beyond that.
And so we're going to see this year weather-related issues, massive floods, and the tornadoes are going to continue.
art bell
What's happening to us, Gordon?
gordon michael scallion
The trigger for all of this, I believe, can be found in the core of the Earth.
I believe I address it pretty thoroughly in my book, Notes in the Cosmos, where I talk about how the core of the Earth has shifted its position ever so slightly.
But that's set into motion a lot of changes that's forcing magma to change its directions and it's literally outputting more heat, if you will, or allowing more heat to exit through the various layers.
Since the Earth is predominantly water, it makes sense logically to me that that heat is going to end up in the oceans.
art bell
So this is energy coming from within.
gordon michael scallion
Coming within.
And I believe that this is the true cause of El Nino.
I believe that the winds and the current scientific theory only drives those.
It only drives it, but the source of it, the initial source is coming from within the Earth.
Now, coupled to that is something that both you and I know from our ham radio experience is that the sun also goes through a cycle of approximately 22 years.
We know it as the 11-year sunstop cycle.
art bell
Yes.
gordon michael scallion
And we're coming up to cycles at 23, I believe.
art bell
As a matter of fact, Gordon, 48 hours ago, for the first time in the ascension portion of 23, we hit a solar flux index of over 200.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, that was another prediction that I had made in my book and also had said later last year, I said it in my predictions for 99, was that things to watch for was that we would start to have massive amounts of solar emissions.
Now, that in turn feeds back to the Earth and causes more heat to come out of the Earth as well.
So it's like a symbiotic relationship that's dancing back and forth.
All of this is caused by the precession of the equinoxes or the cycle of our Earth's rotation and the sun system as we go through the ages of, most people are familiar with the astrological ages of Aquarius and Pisces and so forth.
That grand cycle is approximately 26,000 years.
And at the extremes of that cycle, approximately 13,000 years, there is massive devastation on the Earth.
The last one we had was approximately 12,500 years ago, where we had all the weather changes on the planet.
It was global.
That's where they found the thousands upon thousands of animals frozen in Russia and dried.
art bell
The 13,000-year mark.
Is that a precise mark, Gordon?
gordon michael scallion
I don't think it's as precise as some of the people who follow this and believe in this concept.
I think from a geological or even an astronomical point of view, it's relatively accurate, but accurate to within 100 years, 50 years, I don't know.
But I know that they've done core samples.
And through those core samples, they're able to date times that the Earth's magnetic field has changed its positions.
Now, that's something that in our lifetimes we haven't experienced, but through cores, we can see that there's a cycle there.
That cycle seems to be running about 12,000 to 13,000 years.
art bell
Well, the recent research that I've heard about all of this, Gordon, seems to indicate now that these changes, they originally thought occurred over very long periods of time.
Now they're beginning to say, well, you know what?
Maybe, according to the core samples, the changes occurred quite rapidly.
gordon michael scallion
The information that I follow, at least the scientific papers that come across my desk and are mailed to me, and a lot of these are by people who are with JPL or NASA.
There's a very large scientific body who send me things very quietly, some anonymously and some actually put their names on it.
And they tell me that, you know, when I started doing predictions even in the early 80s, it was thought to be, like you said, maybe over 150 years time period that this thing could have happened.
Because of our technology today and our more accurate way of dating, we went from 150 years to maybe 50 years to maybe 10 years.
And now they think they've got it down.
They definitely have it down to the actual month and probably the week in the month that it happened.
art bell
Wow.
gordon michael scallion
They were able to do this by digging up some of the mastodons that were frozen and stride, and they still had buttercups in their mouths.
They were still digesting food.
And by looking at the flowers, they could tell what time of the year it was.
They knew exactly what time of the year it was.
So the same flowers are growing today in that same area.
So they know that part of it.
Now the next part of it was how to get it down.
So they're down now to less than 10 years when it could have happened, and they're probably thinking this thing could have happened within months.
Eventually, it'll be known that this thing happened literally in days.
art bell
In days, my God.
Well, you know, some thousands or hundreds of thousands of years from now, whatever it is they look back at us, with the amount of preservatives that we put in food right now, they'll be able to look into the mouths of woolly human beings and it'll be very well preserved, whatever it is.
So anyway, so the changes that we are now in, that we're experiencing right now, I mean, I could open up the phone lines and take report after report from Canada to Mexico and all the way across, and everybody would say something is wrong with the weather.
I mean, really wrong with the weather.
And so obviously we want to know where it goes from here and how fast the current cycle of changes will put us into a strange position or worrisome.
gordon michael scallion
Last year, as you know, the last time I was on your show, I had, which was, I think it was July of last year, I had said that I really felt that there were great changes coming up by November, weather-wise, and that it wouldn't surprise me if we had some massive solar flares and that if the and also I felt that the temperature of the planet had just had just increased and we probably were going to break a record.
unidentified
So last year we did break a temperature record.
gordon michael scallion
Now, I expect that that's going to happen again.
It doesn't make sense, the scientific community is saying no.
The reason that I think that the weather changes are just beginning, not trailing off as being reported, is because we have now have another cycle adding to our own Earth core shift.
And that's the solar flare cycle that we're into now.
And these flares are going to be much higher.
And the magnitude is such that it's going to cause shifts in the jet stream.
So we're going to see incredible amounts of moisture that's going to come to the deserts of the United States.
You know, California, Nevada, you're going to see that.
Arizona.
Massive amounts of water is going to be dumped there.
Also, Mississippi again, down in Missouri, throughout the southern states.
So we're going to see all that water as that jet stream changes and the currents that are driving and change.
As flares continue to occur, if many of these regions happen to be pointed in the right direction, or perhaps it's the wrong direction, and the Earth takes some major hits, these hits are going to not only disrupt electrical, I mean everybody's worried about Y2K, but the grid is what we really should be worried about.
And that's what I see happening.
So, you know, in the United States, tornadoes, hailstorms, I mean, size of softballs, I mean, massive amounts of damage from hail.
And then the winds that will pick up.
Not only tornadoes, but just very strong gusts of winds.
We're going to see winds that are going to hit hurricane velocity.
art bell
Gee, Wiz, you're now talking to the proud new owner of a 100-foot steel tower above his head.
Winds, huh?
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, but I'm sure you put it up so it's good for at least 150 miles an hour.
I did.
art bell
I did indeed.
But I'm a little concerned.
Now, I kind of know where you're going here.
I know a little bit about this, Gordon.
As we get hit with flares or ejecta from the sun, we are sensibly protected by our magnetic field.
But there have been disturbing reports of fluctuations in the magnetic field lately.
And I've had some people say we could get hit with such a big one that the Earth's magnetic field would somehow not quite protect us from it.
And the results of that would be quite catastrophic.
gordon michael scallion
It could be the trigger for a magnetic pole shift.
In fact, our visions have indicated that that's exactly what will happen, not necessarily this year, though it may begin in some small level this year.
When those flares hit, and the magnetosphere just bulges out, and when it couples into the Earth, and we get what we know is auroras, aurora borealisis, when we couple that kind of energy in, it creates not only disturbances electrically at the poles, but that same disturbance becomes part of the electrical system of the Earth and the magnetic field of the Earth.
Now, one thing that is going on now and has been going on for some time is that the strength of the Earth's magnetic field has been declining, and it's been declining steadily.
art bell
That's what I've heard.
gordon michael scallion
Now, we know in the past, due to these core sample tests that they took All around the world, they knew that just before the poles shifted their position, the magnetic poles now shifted their position, that the magnetic field dropped.
And so we're in that cycle as well.
So this is just like another thing that we can look at to say what kind of things are really going on that may have some past credibility.
We studied the past scientifically so that we can then extrapolate the future.
And so I believe that we're going to have some whopper flares, and before the Y2K hits, the flares will have already hit.
art bell
If there should be a virtual cessation for a period of time of the Earth's magnetic field, which could occur and many people are saying May, and we were to get hit by a large flare, that would do the trick, wouldn't it?
In other words, it could be.
gordon michael scallion
A way of looking at it is, remember those little Scotty dogs, one black, one white magnets that you used to put on your refrigerator?
Absolutely.
And if you took the two Scotty dogs and you pushed them together, they repelled each other, and if you turned it around, they would attract each other.
They're standard magnets that you play with.
art bell
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
And it's a really good experiment for people to do, to go in some kind of a hobby shop or a radio shack or someplace to pick up some magnets and just kind of play with them.
Because when you have it in your hand and you see what it does, you then can have an understanding that the Earth is just this big, huge magnet.
And as a result of that, you can clearly see that there's a point where if it's not in balance or in harmony, then it's susceptible to shifting.
That flare, when it does occur, I believe, will be the trigger.
And it will flip the magnetic field.
I don't see a complete reversal.
I describe it in some detail again in my book, but basically what I say is that I see the magnetic field shifting towards the west.
Not all magnetic shifts, pole shifts, have been 180 degrees.
There have been various amounts.
The ones that I see go in six or seven degree increments to the west or towards the Pacific Ocean, for example.
It was referenced looking at the United States and Canada being at 12 o'clock.
It moves to the west six to seven degrees three different times before it stabilizes itself.
art bell
Oh my Gordon, we've had that occur already.
If we went through a shift, a partial shift, the kind you described a little while ago, what would happen to us?
gordon michael scallion
Even a permanent shift of a few degrees would be catastrophic.
What happens, we shift all the elements of the Earth.
It would create the steering winds of the planet would shift very abruptly.
If it was seven degrees, like I see happening three times, or a total of 27 degrees, that would be significant enough so that the weather of the entire planet would change, and it would happen almost instantly.
The first thing that would happen is that the shift would occur.
Obviously, electrical devices are going to have, you know, the grid is going to have a problem, especially if it was triggered by a solar flare.
unidentified
That was the cause of it.
gordon michael scallion
Immediately, high and low pressure points of the planet change, and winds would start probably within minutes and build in force.
And so we would see winds two, three, four hundred miles an hour that would move at different places on the planet.
art bell
I lived on one, and they'd build flat concrete houses because of the winds.
300 or 400 miles an hour wind, Gordon, would well, I've seen typhoons actually flatten islands completely and take every structure off, poof, gone like it doesn't exist.
Three to four hundred miles an hour, there wouldn't be anything left.
gordon michael scallion
Even more difficult is since our planet is a majority of water, we're going to see water being pushed everywhere.
So water movement would be incredible.
We would see tsunamis that could reach Empire State building kind of heights and beyond.
Somewhere that energy has got to be dissipated.
If we look at it as an energy being released, it's like the magnetic shift is like letting off lots of nuclear bombs, and that energy is going to spread out and it's going to take up many tons of stuff.
I move into different portions.
So the planet itself is always trying to seek a balance.
And the most probable scenario would be is that such a shift, of course, is going to move the plate tectonic system of the planet.
So then you're going to have that energy moving.
We today, scientifically, do not know what creates the magnetic field in the Earth.
I'm sorry?
art bell
That's true.
You're right.
We don't know.
gordon michael scallion
It's one of those mysteries, you know, and you go back and look at textbooks, the things you learned in college, and it just isn't true.
I mean, these are theories, and there's two or three different theories that are out there.
I've shared my theory in my book of what I think it is, and that's that the Earth itself has boundaries or layers.
It's almost like a solid state device.
It's the only way I could describe it.
And it's these boundaries that indeed creates it as the result of an electrical connection between the Sun and the Earth.
That's rotation.
I don't believe the rotation is actually created in the field.
art bell
In other words, as we go around the Sun, the Earth is sort of like a motor.
You could think of it like a motor.
And there is energy generated within the Earth itself as a matter of this rotation.
Is that fair?
gordon michael scallion
I think in part it's fair, yes.
The Sun, because of its mass and its dynamics, it has poles too, and it's going through its own pole shift, I think, currently right now.
art bell
You bet.
gordon michael scallion
And that energy comes to the Earth.
We're more familiar with it as sunlight, and so we see that, and we may know a little bit about cosmic rays and things of this nature.
But what is not understood is that the Earth receives that energy, and then it sends it back.
It's sinusoidal in form.
It's a wave that comes to the Earth and goes back and forth.
And it's not only heat and light, it's gravity and magnetism and color and sound.
I mean, there's seven layers or bands or rays that's exchanging between the sun and the earth.
So anything that goes on in the sun is going to go on in the earth.
art bell
Makes sense.
What do you know, or what can you tell us, about what you believe to be the makeup of the inner earth itself?
There's much argument about that, and we've talked about it before, but it bears touching on.
In other words, what really is down going toward the core of the Earth?
Can you draw a picture of that?
gordon michael scallion
Again, it's one of those things that scientifically we do not know.
art bell
That's right.
gordon michael scallion
And so the only thing that we do know is there's a lot of research being done by sending various waves to the Earth.
And by doing that, we know some things.
We can speculate that the Earth core moves at a different speed, which is one of the predictions I had made years ago that just was proven out last year, that it moves at a different speed than the outer crust.
art bell
I remember that prediction.
gordon michael scallion
What I see, and again what I describe in my book, is that there's an incredible amount of heat that's generated.
I mean, the heat is hot enough to melt rock.
But in my visions and discussions with my guides, as we get closer to the core of the Earth, some theories are that it's a solid iron core, and that's what is our magnetism.
That's not what I see at all.
What I see is a plasma.
It's like this energy, and it's only can describe it as an energy, but the word that my guide said is it's a plasma.
It's under incredible pressure from the heat because heat wants to escape out of the thing.
The Earth is cooling.
It's slowly cooling, very slowly cooling, but it gets rejuvenated because of the sun's energy that comes to us.
So it's constantly being rejuvenated, but over billions of years, we could say the Earth is slowly cooling.
And the outer crust is more solid than the inner crust.
If your question was, is there a hollow core Earth theory, is that true?
Not by my visions.
art bell
So you envision a plasma at the center.
gordon michael scallion
A plasma at the center.
A high-intensity plasma.
And that as you move out from the center core of the Earth, we have these layers.
Scientifically, I think they've identified what they believe to be five, six, or seven.
I see seven of these main layers, but I see 49 total layers as I go from the core out.
And each of these layers has a different polarity.
So it's like a series of magnets, north-south, north-south, north-south, and so forth.
art bell
Engine.
gordon michael scallion
An engine.
art bell
Virtually a generator.
Actually, a generator, really.
And of course, engines are generators, or motors are generators.
I should have said motor, really.
And that's what we are as a giant kind of motor, I guess.
I remember you're saying that you thought there had been a shift of magma or plasma.
I'm not sure which.
I'll ask you now.
That that shift had occurred, was going to occur.
Is it a very tiny shift with giant results for us or what?
gordon michael scallion
The shift, I believe, was significant.
One of the long-standing predictions for cataclysmic events on the Earth that Casey published was that when certain volcanoes became active, and he talked about Italy being coming active, and he also talked about Pele very specifically and Martinique.
He talked about those.
He says if either of those become active, then mega-earth changes would occur.
And then he said something to the effect that somehow they were in harmony together.
He passed over in 1945, so we didn't have the ability to go back and ask him what he meant or if he could update that.
Because since he said that, there has been activity in Italy, of course, many times.
During the war, there was significant activity such that they bombed the volcano to keep the smoke out so the bombers could get to their missions.
What I see is an actual passageway, if you will, or conduit that goes between South America, the Caribbean, it's like a Y there, all the way under the Atlantic Ocean and then up where Italy is, in particular Aetna and Vesuvius.
So if you can see like an underground river of magma flowing between those two places, my prediction was that I think things had changed since Casey's time, and I felt that if there was ever any significant activity in the Caribbean,
and at the same time that there was activity at Aetna, if they both simultaneously became active, very active, then that was kind of a key to me that that prediction about the underground magma connection was true and that we were getting real close.
art bell
Music This is the end of side one.
stop the tape, flip it over, rewind, and begin again.
Now, when you have visions, I thought you described them so well once on the program as three television screens, two being sort of black and white or weak color, and one being very contrasty and brighter and more likely than the other.
Any of the scenarios were possible, but increasingly this one screen would be more dominant and the obvious future that we were going to have, kind of like three little movies running on three screens, but one of them becoming more and more clear and bright and likely.
Is that fair?
gordon michael scallion
I couldn't have said it better.
That's exactly as I see it.
Usually before I see those three screens, I start having a series of dreams.
Each night I have at least five or six that I can recall.
And then in the morning when I get up, I take notes about the ones that I realize that are just about my life and my health, what I need to be doing, and ones that relate to the earth and things that I need to pay attention to.
And if I don't pay attention, the dream will repeat itself until I finally do.
Now, once I do, once I say, okay, there's something here, then I'll see these three images.
It's like going to an electronics TV showroom where they have all these TVs playing, except that there are three of them.
And I can look at it one day, and then I can go back a month later and call up that same image.
Once I see the image, it's like a database.
It's locked in here.
I can always recall it instantly.
art bell
What information do you actually get?
Do you see the disasters as if from space here on Earth?
How does the information appear to you?
gordon michael scallion
It has various ways.
In the beginning, it was from space, looking back, and then seeing it as a distance, so I get the overall picture.
And then future visions would show me a little closer.
I might be 100 miles instead of 10,000 miles out.
So that would be like the first go-rounds.
And then later, when I started seeing these movies, it would just depend on how much time I wanted to spend.
If I stay at it too long, when the headaches come, and then I lose everything.
And then I'm using it in bed for a day or two.
So I've had to learn how to pace myself.
So when these visions start, I very quickly look for key things.
Sometimes the visions move very fast.
It's like watching a movie that's running at high speed.
And then I look for elements like the place on the planet it might be, the time of season, you know, the leaves on the trees.
Is it a warm climate?
Is it a cold climate?
Sometimes I'll even see a newspaper.
That's what happened with Northridge.
I knew, you know, I saw the newspaper, I saw the month of the newspaper, and I knew the month and the year it would happen.
On rare occasions, the newspaper will stay for a second or two and I can actually get the actual day.
That's a rarity.
Usually I get the month, and I can see the year and the month of it.
And some of the predictions that I published this year, I received in 83, so I had to wait all these years for these things to unfold.
Sometimes they change.
It's like the three images.
I can look at the image, see these three screens, and say, wow, it looks like this is really going to happen.
I can go back a year or two later, look at the same three screens, and they may change.
The one that looked most probable, the bright colored one, may now be a muted color.
And the middle screen, which would have been weaker, may be stronger.
art bell
When I asked you how inevitable, if we go back to the screens that you see, when you began to look at the near-term changes, when they began to seem very near-term, as in beginning of July, how definitive were the pictures you were getting?
gordon michael scallion
I was hoping you were going to ask that one tonight.
Each December, I do a special meditation with family and sometimes some friends for predictions for the upcoming year.
It's a very deep trance state.
As you know, I'm limited to my own physical strength these days, and so I have to kind of take it easy.
But at that time, one of the questions that was asked to me was, what did the screen show?
And the response that came back from one of my guides was that it now unfolds.
And that, you know, and then there were many other things in there that could be done, should be done, but always bringing it back to community.
And basically, I see one screen now, and only one screen.
art bell
One.
gordon michael scallion
One.
And that screen shows the Earth pretty much as the map that you have in your possession there.
art bell
I do indeed.
gordon michael scallion
You have one by your hot tub, I think, if I remember correctly.
art bell
How did you know that?
gordon michael scallion
You told me, I think.
Did I tell you that?
Yeah.
I can't take credit for a futurist thing of that.
You told me.
But it's really close to that.
The variables in there will be the exact positioning of the coastlines.
I mean, we will lose up to pretty close to a third of the United States' landmass.
art bell
Is this going to be, as the result, I mean, the weather, the wind, the tornadoes, the hurricanes, the earthquakes, all of this is occurring, but what you're describing would take probably a pole shift to accomplish.
gordon michael scallion
Yeah, again, you're right on.
Let me just read a very short paragraph from Notes on the Cosmos in my book, which kind of summarizes your question, or the answer to your question.
unidentified
Sure.
gordon michael scallion
This is the paragraph that my dream teacher or my guide asked me when I was thinking about doing the Earth Changes report.
When I was thinking about Earth changes at the time, I was seeing these visions and I wanted to know.
I went to bed that night saying, why am I seeing these things?
Here's a response.
A magnetic pole shift is already underway.
It began in the mid-1930s as a result of a shift in the position of the Earth's core relative to the pole star, which would be Polaris currently.
Just as earthquakes and volcanoes are caused by electromagnetic forces, so are pole shifts.
Great tectonic movement is only a reaction to these forces.
What you have seen in your visions can aid the many.
Others shall come forward now to increase awareness.
So here's your hope, your friends, coming forward to you.
Increase awareness of the coming procession and the solar cycles and the beginning of a new age.
This is to be a millennium of peace and greater light for all.
And yet, as has been indicated to you often, if community is born anew, if there is a spiritual ideal for each entity, if an intuition is followed by each, then indeed such a cataclysm as you have witnessed can be lessened.
I responded in this, my guide.
I said, well, can it be eliminated?
Response was, all things are possible.
You have witnessed the most probable future Earth.
Whether it comes to pass depends upon the people.
Warn the people now.
So that passage from Notes in the Cosmos was the impotence for me to eventually release the information that I had had for years but was afraid to.
And it is directly related to a pole shift, that this was saying had already begun and that it would manifest itself in very significant ways.
In other words, we would literally know that this is going on.
It is my belief through my phone conversations with people at JPL and NASA and other people who quietly call me who are working on the Soho project and others.
From what they're telling me is that it is known that there are magnetic changes in the sun and the earth currently going on, and they're studying it.
That's the response.
art bell
That's all they say.
Yeah.
gordon michael scallion
Now currently, the magnetic field of the Earth has been in the constant state of decay.
It's part of its, again, it's part of a normal cycle.
Right.
But usually what's happened in the past is when it's decayed, it is like getting ready to flip to a new direction.
art bell
Now, when you say flip, there's very little or no disagreement in the scientific community that pole reversals take place.
Is it your view that they take place when that final moment comes nearly instantaneously, or is it a longer period of time?
gordon michael scallion
I think much of it depends upon the particular energies that play during a cycle.
For example, about every 12,000 years we have some kind of a magnetic shift.
So it's like the stresses are in place.
How the Earth responds can vary.
I mean, in the past, I think ice was responsible for a pole shift, not necessarily just a magnetic pole shift, but an actual geocentric shift.
The beginnings of those, I believe, occurred in the 30s, and then I believe it occurred again in the late 80s, and I believe it occurred again in the mid-90s.
So I think we've seen three very small shifts, little jolts, I would call them, and then a quiet time period, and now it's getting prepared to do, I think, its first jolt, which, again, will occur sometime within this three-year window.
art bell
And when this comes, there will be high winds.
There will be volcanic action, I guess.
There will be tectonic movement.
gordon michael scallion
Correct.
Tectonic movement, as I just read from our notes in the cosmos, is directed by magnetic forces.
Electromagnetic forces is what is the driving force.
And all of this in turn affects the basic elements, earth, air, water, fire.
And when those things are put out of proportion in any fashion, any one of them, you then increase pressures and then tectonic plates move.
And of course, anywhere in the world where there is stress, you get it.
And of course, most of our populations are on coastal areas.
art bell
That's right.
gordon michael scallion
And so you're going to see it.
Now, most people, at least in the United States, tend to think of these things are out on the West Coast.
It's not going to bother me here in Texas, or they're not going to bother me here in New York.
And yet, that's not at all what I'm seeing.
I'm just seeing that it occurs first on the West Coast because it's the most stressed area.
But it will affect the East Coast as well as other continents.
art bell
Well, you must have looked at your own situation, selfishly at least.
gordon michael scallion
New Hampshire.
Yeah, I would like very much to tell you and your listeners that I made this conscious decision years ago as a result of what I saw.
Unfortunately, as I stated in my book, that's not what happened.
I had a series of dreams that showed me a map and told me to go up to this specific area.
He didn't say why.
He just said, you need to go to this area.
And I didn't pay any attention to it.
And then it just repeated itself.
And finally, I drove up.
And basically, I've always lived in a city.
And a rural life was not something that was part of my plan.
And my plan was to be on the water always.
And so I came up here, I looked at it, and I said, no, this is not for me.
This is way too isolated.
And then it never stopped.
The dreams were at least once, or it's not twice a week.
So after about a year, we found that things in our lives had changed and we needed To move, and so I said, Well, this is a perfect opportunity to go back to the Gulf Coast of Florida and live.
Even though I had that experience there, I still felt good in the sun and I enjoyed the salt water and I enjoyed sailing.
I wanted to go back with my family.
And doors just weren't open to me.
And then finally, in desperation, we had sold our house.
And in desperation, we went back up here and drove by a place.
And all of a sudden, I found myself turning up this driveway, not knowing why.
And the person came out, and I said, you know any land or property for sale?
He says, yeah.
He says, this place is.
And so looking back with hindsight now, I could see the reasons why.
This helped me learn about community, self-sufficiency, gardening.
It led me to live the things that I would in the future be talking about.
So instead of just talking about it, I actually live these things.
art bell
When you and I did a show previously, you said you saw on the West Coast visions of shattered glass.
You saw thousands or millions of refugees coming from California over the mountains.
Does that vision remain the same?
gordon michael scallion
Yes, that's and even on a non-visual sense, if we just look at recent occurrences that have occurred in cities, we can see what happens when the ground shakes.
You can get a building to sway if you've engineered it correctly, like in Japan and some of the new construction on the West Coast, that can take a force, you know, six, seven, or even an eight earthquake.
Though the quakes I see are going to be 10, 12, 15 in the future.
But when these buildings start swaying and you get winds that whip up to 200, 300 miles an hour, you're going to see these glass panes popping out.
And I would see them in the streets, they would fill up the streets.
They would bury cars and shattered glass.
And then I saw caravans of cars and lights on at night heading over the desert, heading from California into what I called tent cities, established on the border of California and Nevada.
And there were just streams of traffic on the highways and just tents set up by, you know, like the military was bringing in huge tents, you know, thousands of tents.
art bell
Is this likely to begin to occur with the first shift?
gordon michael scallion
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'll occur.
There'll be some major shaking quakes that will occur first.
And more than likely, it will begin this summer.
At least the quakes will begin this summer.
The actual date of the shift, I'll have to wait until I get something that's more definitive.
I just know the window of it.
But I'm quite certain that we're going to see major quakes, things that are going to be greater than seven.
art bell
All right.
Here's a blatant question for you.
Gordon, when will the West Coast go underwater?
Will there be any warning?
gordon michael scallion
The warnings have already been given.
Before the water actually comes and the coastline gets changed, and California becomes what I called in my book, the Isles of California, about 150 of them.
Before those happen, the major cities, San Francisco, LA and San Diego down in the Baja, those things get shaken literally to the point where it's like watching a movie, like Escape to LA or New York.
It looks like that in my vision.
So those things occur shortly before the water comes in.
Water and inundations may actually occur in that line from Salt Lake to Bakersfield as well.
I mean, we may see water being displaced as land masses shift before that.
So the things is that the next quakes that are going to come are going to be big ones.
The warning signs of the smaller ones, the ones that we predicted, such as Northridge and others, those have already occurred.
So I totally expect now that the next ones will be the big ones.
And by big ones, they're ones that their epicenters are right in the cities of L.A. and San Francisco and San Diego.
art bell
So that's the West Coast.
And that will occur first.
gordon michael scallion
It's a three-year window for these things to occur, 98 to 2001.
art bell
Then somebody asks, does Gordon foresee this danger for all of the Northeast?
In other words, Boston as he does for New York?
gordon michael scallion
The first one that I have seen is actually in the New York area, New York, Long Island, Connecticut.
That's the first one that I've seen.
It's a massive shift, and something is ruined for this summer in that area, whether it's the full release at that time or the warning.
But I'm very concerned about that.
But the East Coast has, like Boston, Boston and Philadelphia, or do people know about it, have had incredibly massive earthquakes in the past, 100 years ago, just like in New Madrid, you know.
But the populations were very low then, and we weren't building our skyscrapers and homes on landfill.
Things were different then, and even so, those were massive earthquakes back then, A-plus range.
So we will see tectonic movement that will affect, you know, if we were to take a line, for example, and drew a line from New Brunswick and swung that line from New Brunswick down to, you know, somewhere around Augusta, Georgia, you know, just do a general line along that path.
Along in that path, we're going to see a lot of land mass changes and water.
Generally, if you're on the water or close to the water, you're at high risk.
You just watch the hurricanes, and You can see that happening in floods, which are coming too very soon, by the way.
art bell
What about our central land masses?
What about the middle of the country?
gordon michael scallion
The middle of the country fares fairly well.
You know, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, most of Texas, New Mexico, the central portion, Montana, southern Canada, those do not change.
I mean, they go through effects, but as far as massive land mass changes where you see land sinking and water levels rising, I don't see those in the air.
I mean, I see Earth movements.
You can't move a tectonic plate without shuttering the whole planet.
And so, you know, when these things happen, you won't be able to stand wherever you are on this planet.
You will fall to your knees when the shuttering is, it's a shuttering effect, even though the event may be affecting you 1,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 miles away.
But the central portions do a lot better.
And then there's a lot of portions in between where the new Mississippi will be and the east coast.
There's a lot of area in there.
You know, the easiest thing that I was able to do was to create a map of it.
art bell
Well, Carl, how big is that map?
gordon michael scallion
The map is five feet by four feet.
art bell
Five feet, yeah, it's giant.
gordon michael scallion
And so many people have said, you know, why can't you just put it on an 8.5 by 11?
Well, on the website, you know, you get an idea of what it is, and you can literally see the impact of what I'm talking about.
But when you're talking about the world, it's very difficult because people really want to know where they are relative to the map.
art bell
Of course.
gordon michael scallion
And, you know, I took at least a period of five to six years before I ever considered.
I had made maps for myself, but I never released it for years because, you know, first, people weren't ready to hear it.
And second, is that part of me was in denial.
You know, I was really hoping that this was just not going to happen, but somehow we were going to turn this around.
And so, you know, part of me says I probably waited too long.
The other part of me says the fact that I did it, you know, was probably the correct thing to do whenever I did it.
art bell
Well, I understand why you're torn.
The Hawaiian Islands and Alaska, I always get berated for not asking you about those.
gordon michael scallion
Of course, the Hawaiian Islands are born of volcanism.
There's constant, it's one of the places around the world where you can actually watch islands being built and real estate increasing.
So it's logical to assume that that is going to increase.
I see most of those islands being severely inundated.
And I think there will still be some areas at the high elevations that will survive.
But most of them, the biggest problem I see is water movement.
You know, when Krakatoa went off, it sent the tidal wave around the world several times, and the shock wave reverberated for, it seems like ever.
And they talked about these mile-high waves that were generated from that one volcanic eruption.
So here we've got changes in the West Coast, changes in Japan that I'm predicting will begin this year.
And so that's going to create waves.
So I think they're very high risk to wave motion.
There are warnings, early warning systems in place to warn of a tidal wave.
You could have advanced warnings of five hours, maybe even 10 hours in some cases.
Unfortunately, I don't know where you would go except to the higher elevations.
Higher ground.
But I think everybody should, my suggestion is everybody should, wherever you are in the world, you should just think about what would you do if it happened tomorrow?
What if a hurricane came?
What if a major earthquake?
art bell
Where would you go?
gordon michael scallion
What would you do?
And plan that out accordingly.
And that's what we've done.
I have an emergency kit that I keep in my car.
We've developed a very strong community here in our neighborhood for growing and water.
And we can get off of everything and survive here for quite a while.
art bell
You know what, Gordon?
I think that people are suddenly, and I bet you're getting it in your mail and your email too, all the communication that you get from people, thousands and tens or hundreds of thousands of people.
The C-Crane Company sells this emergency radio with a light.
All of a sudden, about three weeks ago, it went unaccountably crazy.
I mean, when I say crazy, I mean totally beyond all reason and the ability of them to keep stock or even manufacture it at a fast enough rate.
And people started ordering.
Now, that tells me that people are, you know, even for the thicker folks out there, the less sensitive, I'll be kind, it's beginning to sink in.
Intuitively.
gordon michael scallion
You cannot turn on, yes, you're right.
Intuitively, more and more people are getting the message.
But the other part of it is the real-world data, which is what I look at, and that is that you can't turn on television without seeing some kind of a disaster show that's based on real fact in the nightly news.
I mean, 22 tornadoes in one 24-hour time period all around the country.
That's unheard of.
art bell
I know.
gordon michael scallion
And so people now are saying, you know, wow, I've got to do something.
And so those are the first.
art bell
Then there was the NBC piece the other night when they said that the weather appears to be permanently changing.
And it's as though for a lot of America, Gordon, they don't believe it until Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, or one of the big guys says it.
When they say it, then it's true for them.
unidentified
Well, it's now.
gordon michael scallion
It's not in 10 years or 5 years.
unidentified
It's now.
It's now.
art bell
You have just heard what Gordon Michael Scallion has envisioned for our future.
On tape two, you're going to find out what Major Ed Dames has to say about these upcoming Earth changes.
unidentified
Major Ed Dames
art bell
Major Ed Dames This is part two of the new Millennium Special.
Many of you out there are familiar with Major Ed Dames from my program, Coast to Coast AM.
What Major Ed Dames has to say about future earth changes, you'll find very similar to what Gordon Michael Scallion said.
Find out why people call him Dr. Doom.
Several years ago, now, and a lot of time has passed, Ted Coppel's Nightline did a program that shocked the nation.
They revealed the existence of a military remote viewing program to the nation in a 30-minute Nightline broadcast.
And they said that for 20 years, the United States government had had in place a so-called remote viewing program and that we had spent millions of dollars on it.
And that there had been a group of these remote viewers, and we'll try and explain the quick 101 version of remote viewing because I know we have new listeners in a moment.
And that they were discontinuing that program and announcing it, making the fact that we had, as a government, been doing this for 20 years, now public.
It was, to say the least, a shocking revelation.
Since that time, we have had many opportunities to interview many remote viewers.
One of the most controversial, without question, is a man that was dubbed during that time Dr. Doom.
His name is Ed Dames, retired now, Major Ed Dames, who started a company called SciTech in the private sector in order to take what he had learned in the military, modify it to some degree, and what he does is called Technical Remote Viewing.
From the Hawaiian Islands, here is Major Ed Dames.
Ed, hello.
ed dames
It's a pleasure to be back, Art.
art bell
Before we launch into very much about the operational side of either the military program or what you're doing now, we should do, I know, the painful thing for you because you've done it so many times, but just the very short version of what technical remote viewing is.
For those who might be tuning in tonight for the first time, they're going, what the hell is remote viewing?
ed dames
In essence, I'll start by using a term that you've used before.
A remote viewer is a trained psychic, but trained to the degree that the data that is produced about a target, a target being a remotely placed person, place, a thing, or an event, the information that's produced about that target is extremely accurate and consistent.
So consistent and accurate that we and the Department of Defense were able to use such psychic data in support of military operations where when we went, for instance, to natural psychics, we could not use that information because the natural psychic, number one, was not consistent in their data.
And number two, the natural psychic did not know when they crossed the line into imagination.
So that the information that they were writing down or talking about or sketching was no longer connected with the target.
The signal had crossed over back into the middle.
art bell
So in other words, in a way, the government was saying, we believe in psychic ability, but the government always wants, of course, to be able to control and do science, which is being able to repeat things again and again and again.
They want a regimen.
That is our military.
I was in the Air Force.
Everything is regimented, and so they regimented psychic ability.
I guess you could put it that way, couldn't you?
ed dames
It had to be validated.
The Secretary of the Army at the time, John O. Marsh, was visionary enough to allow seed money to be put into this program to the tune of millions of dollars.
But that was provisional to the point where we had to be able to validate the usefulness and the accuracy of these methods in military operations before real money would be put forward.
So the $20 million that you hear thrown around, part of that $20 million that funded the program was, of course, research.
Only when we demonstrated that it was a militarily effective tool that could be used to support military operations, only then did the regular monies from Congress was allocated.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
So the tax dollars didn't.
art bell
Really, the first money was seed money.
ed dames
The first money was research money.
Research money can be thrown at just about anything, but only for a limited period of time.
And unless you validate, in terms of the Department of Defense, unless you validate something as a weapon or a defense system or an intelligence collection system, the usefulness of that, you're not going to get any more money.
art bell
It's a very good point, Ed.
And you know, the fact that it went on for 20 years, I could understand that it would go on for a year or two or three or four even.
But if there were no results worthy being yielded, they absolutely would not have kept going 20 years, in my opinion.
ed dames
No.
No, it was, well, there was another reason it lasted so long.
The unit was so close hold that very, very few people in the government knew of its existence.
I dare say that if that had not been the case, we would not have lasted as long.
art bell
Well, here's a point.
ed dames
We would have been cut off the knees.
art bell
Yeah, exactly.
But frequently people say, look, there can't be ETs.
There can't be UFOs.
The government is incapable of keeping secrets.
That's baloney.
They are capable of keeping secrets.
They kept the remote viewing secret for 20 years.
ed dames
Well, no, it leaked out.
It did leak out.
In fact, in my business, we knew that the general rule of thumb art was that a secret could be kept for no longer than eight years.
art bell
Eight years.
ed dames
Yeah.
That was a general rule of thumb.
Now, that's been exceeded.
I mean, there have been programs that many countries have had.
China is a good example.
They can keep a lid on something for decades.
But in America, before Internet days, it was generally eight years.
One of the best examples was the stealth program.
That was effectively protected by this country and the U.S. Air Force.
art bell
The Manhattan Project.
ed dames
Well, the Manhattan Project, that was secrecy beyond, I think, anything.
Very few programs had that kind of secrecy.
art bell
But the fact that plutonium was given to children and pregnant women, that was kept secret.
ed dames
Those were the dark ages of America, the Joe McCarthy days.
Those were America's dark ages, for sure.
art bell
And the dark days are over?
ed dames
Generally speaking, they're over.
There's a lot of oversight.
And I'll tell you why, because the press is so effective.
The press is so effective in this country that they can generally penetrate just about anything.
But if you try to keep a secret from the American press, for sure.
unidentified
Hear, here.
art bell
Hear, here.
But said again, remote viewing is the ability of somebody to administer to another person, the remote viewer, a number, a simple number, a series of numbers or whatever.
And the remote viewer would then, for example, be able to locate a gas canister in Iraq or any number of other things.
Remote viewing is in a realm that defies or eclipses time as we understand it.
You can look into the future.
You can look into the past.
ed dames
It's operating in the fifth dimension.
Fourth dimension being time, fifth dimension being mind.
art bell
Precisely.
ed dames
So we are thinking in terms of a universal mind where all patterns of information are stored.
So in that arena, the universal mind is remembering the future as well as remembering the past.
All the information is present there, accessible.
So it becomes a matter of turning one's unconscious attention towards one of those infinite patterns of information.
art bell
When you get a student, Ed, in the days that you actually had classes going on, how did you train the imagination?
How do you train the imagination out of a person's report?
ed dames
It's part of the process that there's about 400 steps to learning this process, just like cooking a pineapple upside-down cake in a kitchen.
You just have to go through one step after another.
If you do all those steps correctly, you have a fine cake at the end of a couple of hours.
unidentified
That's right.
ed dames
Remote viewing is the discovery, the real discovery of remote viewing is how the unconscious part of ourselves communicates these very detailed bits of information to conscious awareness without this overlay of imagination.
Those steps, that process was the breakthrough discovery.
That's been refined in SciTech to be able to use remote viewing as not only an information collection process, but a problem-solving process as well.
art bell
One of the toughest things that it seems to me after interviewing you so many times, Ed, the toughest things for you to do with respect to anything that you say is going to happen or that you have seen coming is specific timelines.
ed dames
That's correct.
As a predictive tool, as a predictive tool, remote viewing is difficult.
We can't nail time down.
The best that we can do in terms of a future event is to say the next event will be this.
But we can't pinpoint the next where we are in time.
art bell
How do you do timelines at all?
Even rough timelines?
How do you come up with them?
ed dames
We look at current states of affairs worldwide on the globe, and we see how close we are juxtaposed to our information.
The event that's been described in the information, a good example would be Korea.
It's been about two years now, two and a half years, since we were sure that the next use of a nuclear weapon would be Korea.
So looking ahead, we didn't really have a clear idea about how long that would be.
We knew it would happen before the solar kill shot because we can place events, bracket them in time, and juxtapose them one before another.
So we knew that that would be before the solar event.
But we didn't know how far down the road the solar kill shot would be.
So we didn't have a standard for our timeline.
It's very difficult to do that.
Now you can see that the situation in Korea is becoming very hairy, very fast, and it's a fait accompli that something is going to give in Korea very fast.
So now we get a better idea of when this event might occur.
That's why we're watching the situation so closely and we're getting more details because we're closer on the horizon to finally, to the actual event.
So when we build remote viewing itself, there are other things, caveats here that we have to be careful of.
In technical remote viewing, you're sitting at a table, you have pen and paper in hand, in a very attentive state, going through a set of rigorous attention management techniques, and you're building up on your canvas on these pieces of paper.
You're moving into the target.
Actually, you're bringing it into your own conscious awareness in a very gross way, from the gross to the general to the specific to the detailed description and sketches of the target.
This takes at least 45 minutes and a series of remote viewing sessions.
So it's like building up the target like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
We know, and we knew in the laboratory when we made these mistakes, people are still making these mistakes, of getting caught up in the drama of the target.
If there's a murder going on that you're looking at, it could be in the past, could be at present time, if there's a battle going on.
If you cross a 50% line where 50% of your awareness is now at the remote target instead of in the room where you are jotting down all this information and following these rigorous taught protocols, if you cross that line, the flow of information will stop.
Remote viewing is not an experience, it's an information collection tool.
So, for instance, what good would it do, let's say your mother had a breast tumor, what good would it do if remote viewing were an experience where you finally experience your mother's breast tumor?
As opposed to where is the position in the breast, how large is it?
What's the makeup of the cells?
Is it benign or malign?
Those kinds of things.
We don't want to stop the flow of information.
So if we get caught up in the drama, it becomes an oh wow experience, which we can do, by the way.
But technical remote viewing precludes that from happening.
art bell
Ed, you on my program are one of the most loved and hated guests that I have.
And a large segment of the people out there love it.
And a large segment of the people out there hate it.
Actually, hate you.
And you bring that on.
I mean, if you read in the newsgroups and you read the faxes and email that people send, when somebody does not like you, there's very little neutral about Ed Dames.
You either like him or you hate him.
I'm giving you an honest assessment of the responses I get from my listeners.
I mean, there are people out there who just hate your guts and mine too, by the way.
ed dames
I'm very much aware of that, Arnie.
art bell
What do you think?
What is it about you or what you say or what you do that brings out this vitriolic side of people?
ed dames
Whether or not people feel that what my company's conclusions are factual, truthful, or not, what we're doing is telling them something they do not want to hear.
And that was my experience in the military, too.
It was my experience at the Department of Defense level, National Intelligence Agency level, and in the White House.
Don't shoot the messenger, but this is the way it is.
I'm going to continue that, too.
In fact, I'll be talking about something like that tonight.
It will be very similar to the things I've talked about in the past.
art bell
That is what they do.
They shoot the messenger.
And they shoot me that way all the time.
I deal in not just what you have, but what a lot of my other guests have.
And it's like they love to hate me.
I get these vitriolic ramblings against what I do, despite the fact that I say constantly on the air, I present this to you as an audience, an adult audience.
You can accept it as entertainment.
You can accept it as information you believe.
You can say, gosh, what a bunch of BS.
You can do whatever you want with it.
I just present it.
But nevertheless, they take their high-powered, metaphorically, of course, rifles and put constant bullets through my head for what I do.
ed dames
And yet those individuals are free to turn that dial or turn the radio off.
Because they love to hate you.
And me.
art bell
That may be.
I think that's exactly right.
They love to hate us.
All right.
Well, now that everybody, I think, pretty well knows you in the first place and we have explained what remote viewing is, I think when I reflect on the years that you've been doing programs with me, your most accurate work seems to have been in the area of the environment.
I mean, that's my own personal view.
ed dames
There's a reason for that, and that is because, you know, what we know in my business is that unconscious, the unconscious part of ourselves, of our own mind, is our best friend.
It tries to keep you alive.
And if you're too busy in the daytime to pay heed to it, that little tiny signal, that little tiny voice, it'll get you at night during dreams.
You'll have premonitions about disasters or something like that.
These are big spikes in time.
These are these kinds of things, the spike that tells you don't be here because something is going to happen or don't be involved in this city at this time because there'll be an explosion.
It's our best friend.
It tries to keep you alive.
So when you have a catastrophe that takes a lot of lives or affects a lot of people, those are very big spikes that stand up through the background clutter, the background noise of day-to-day living.
art bell
And of course, the environment is a very, very big thing that can take many lives.
ed dames
It's going to take many lives indeed, yes.
art bell
Now, I just don't even know what to say about the weather.
You years ago talked about the changes in the weather.
ed dames
There's nothing more to say as far as I'm concerned.
Two and a half years ago, I tried to warn listeners on your program as well as in written reports to institutions and institutes that we are not going to shortly, we're not in North America, going to be able to grow crops the way we used to grow them.
There will be no seasons.
There will be no distinction between seasons.
And it's going, some parts will be a no-man's land.
We're going to have to move crops into sealed environments.
And these environments will become templates.
And humans will begin to migrate into them and they'll grow.
But the technology must mature for this to be effective.
We've got to start doing this now.
Otherwise, many people will lose their lives.
art bell
You also said the jet stream would come down onto the deck.
And people chuckled.
And I've heard, I don't know how many weathermen say the jet stream actually came down and touched the ground.
And that accounts for these straight-line winds that destroyed such and such.
I mean, just again and again and again, you were dead flat right about that.
And here in Salt Lake City, a tornado ed, a tornado, an F2 tornado touched down in the center of Salt Lake City, Utah, killed one person, injured dozens of people, and did an extensive amount of property damage.
It was the damnedest thing anybody ever saw.
ed dames
Well, and I mentioned before the tornado season that the mother of all tornadoes was coming.
And you saw that hit.
art bell
That's right.
ed dames
I have to warn you again: there's going to be more of those, and in places that have never experienced tornadoes before.
So, when, for instance, I warned people in the Denver area about Rocky Flats, there's no more nuclear material, waste material stored in Rocky Flats, but there's still a very big problem.
The top layer of the soil around Rocky Flats, down to about a centimeter or so, is contaminated.
So, if a high wind or a tornado rolls across that land, it's going to be fallout city for Denver.
It's tens of times.
Yeah, a tornado would obviously pick up a great deal of all the contaminants and drop them on populated areas.
art bell
I wonder if they've thought about that.
ed dames
I don't think anyone has ever expected the Rocky Flats area to have a tornado, but things are changing rapidly as we go.
art bell
Nobody really ever expected one in the middle of Salt Lake City either.
ed dames
And in terms of sanctuaries and survival information, the other thing that my company has been trying to warn people about is water.
If you are not near a large source of fresh water, you are in trouble, and increasingly so.
That is why I've been directing people towards the western part of Glacier National Park.
We have that huge, some of the cleanest water in North America is there, and that's one of the few places in the continental United States that's going to be safe because it has a lot of water.
Water supplies are dwindling.
art bell
That certainly would make sense.
But then in the Northeast, we have drought emergencies now in almost every northeastern corridor state.
I believe all of them now.
And the southeast is a disaster.
Here in the west, Ed, the southwest, where I live, I'm telling you something is really dramatically wrong.
Every day, my wife and I have been commenting on it.
We moved here about seven years ago to this house, and on the day we moved, it was 117 degrees.
Now, that's normal for out here in July going into August.
It's not getting above 90 during the day now, and it's going down to 60 at night, Ed.
Something's really wrong.
ed dames
Well, again, water.
The question is, got water?
Because that is the key right there.
You can stockpile all the food that you want and all the rifles and ammunition that you choose.
But if you are not near a source of plentiful fresh water, you are in trouble.
art bell
No, that surely does make sense.
The question, I guess, is that most people would want to know.
I mean, at this point, Ed, most people agree we are in the middle of a weather change that people have tried to explain in various ways, El Niño, La Niña, all the rest of it.
But it's more serious than that, and I think most people now know that.
The question is, how much worse is it going to get?
That's what I think most people would want to know.
ed dames
It's going to reach a point where people will begin migrating from populated areas.
art bell
Out of the cities.
ed dames
Out of the cities, yeah.
This is a denouement here.
And it's going to result in disintegration of a lot of social systems because of no water.
Even food.
Look what will happen first, though.
Food prices will rise.
There will be crops that will not be available for cattle.
So cattle will die.
And then food will be controlled by governments, local at first, civil governments.
And then after that, there may not be enough food to eat.
So people may, socially, many things will change.
People will begin to starve.
We're a very spoiled society, us Americans, and that's about the change.
We're going to experience some pain.
art bell
No, it is true.
Food has been always extremely plentiful here.
ed dames
Americans are water.
art bell
Yeah, Americans don't really understand what it's like not to be able to get food.
It's an impossible concept because we have never experienced it, really never.
ed dames
No, we've grown very complacent about a number of things, and that's going to change.
It's changing right now in those parched areas of the East.
art bell
Well, yeah, look, in parts of the Orient, North Korea, they are starving to death.
There has been reported cannibalism.
In North Korea, it's horrible.
Absolutely horrible.
So it doesn't take a great change in our climate to produce a dramatic change in the ability to grow food, does it?
ed dames
No.
In fact, when you think about it, food that's subject to the vicissitudes of climate and weather these days, it's a crapshoot.
It's like playing Russian roulette with food.
It's got to be done a different way.
And a different way has to be a hermetically sealed or a controlled, environmentally controlled environment.
Our company in the past has produced reports to this effect and delivered them to some very high-powered think tanks.
And there are certain individuals and wealthy people who have taken action and are doing this for themselves.
But it must be done at the community and township levels, minimally, in order to have sustained food.
art bell
Ed, I had a very, very well-renowned psychic on the air, Sylvia Brown.
And she said a couple of things that really caught my attention.
She said, number one, in 50 years, people will be living in domed cities.
And this will be as a result of the environment.
The second thing she said was, she was on the Montel Williams show, and he had her looking ahead 20 years, 50, 70 years.
And finally, he had her look out as far as the year 2100, and she saw absolutely nothing.
Now, that reminded me of the time you talked of the discontinuity, what you called at that time, the discontinuity, a kind of a barrier past which you couldn't see.
And she has a barrier past which she cannot see.
She's not A remote viewer, but she is certainly a natural psychic.
gordon michael scallion
Any reaction to that?
ed dames
Well, I think our company has to stand by the work that we've done with regard to the sun.
There is going to be a sunburst.
Something is going to happen to the sun, a major coronal mass ejection that will plasma that will be delivered up to Earth, right down almost down to the deck on Earth's surface.
And that will result in one of the largest catastrophes probably in recorded history.
art bell
Here's a fact from Dave in Wisconsin.
He says, solar flare activity is supposed to increase dramatically according to scientists in the first few weeks of next year.
Please ask Ed if this is what he's been predicting for the last few years.
In other words, death and destruction to some portion of the planet and its inhabitants due to the sun.
ed dames
This is what we know.
We know that people look up and the next minute later, something hits them.
That's all that we know.
And this something is attributable to the sun's activity.
I'm not a solar physicist, so I don't know if that's plasma, x-rays, or whatever, but it's something that can be seen in the sky.
It's an effect or an epiphenomenon as a result of solar action that actually produces an effect in the sky.
So you can see it coming.
You can't get out of the way, but you can see this coming, and we know that it's produced by the sun.
How many of these kinds of kill shots are there?
We don't know.
But the sun is going to result in a massive loss of life, even far more than the general weather conditions will produce.
And in many parts of the world, it's much worse than we can.
art bell
So you stand by the kill shot or kill shots prediction.
ed dames
That's correct.
Our sun is going to result in the largest loss of human lives that we have seen as remote viewers in the past or in the future.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
This is the end of side one.
unidentified
Stop the tape, flip it over, rewind, and begin again.
art bell
The End Scientists know that our magnetic field here on Earth has been weakening.
They can actually measure it.
They are measuring it.
That's occurring.
Gordon Michael Scowion the other night, and others, I might add, and now you, are suggesting the possibility of an event of a magnitude that would cause a polar shift.
Is that what we're talking about here?
ed dames
When you talk about polar shift, this term that has been so often used over the decades, the only thing that we as remote viewers, professional remote viewers At SciTech, have ever construed as a polar shift is a magnetic pole shift.
We're not certain that there's a shift in the axis of the Earth.
We don't know that.
art bell
Oh, no, no, no.
Just a magnetic shift.
What was north becoming south or some gradient thereof?
Magnetically.
ed dames
We think that there's going to be...
The iron does not seem to be distributed equally.
There seems to be a big glob that all of a sudden moves.
And then that is what causes, in our minds, this magnetic shift.
And then, of course, there's a lot of movement on the surface.
The coefficient of friction between the Earth's mantle and the crust is different.
And then there's a different coefficient of friction between the crust and the atmosphere.
And so there's a time delay.
There's a time lag.
But this eventuates in, when it hits the atmosphere, in very high winds, very high winds indeed, and of course a lot of tidal action as well.
art bell
Did you hear portions at least of the Gordon Michael Scallion show the other night.
unidentified
I did.
art bell
When he was describing the realm in which he is able to view events in the future, it sounded an awful lot to me like descriptions you have given to me of what you do in the past on these shows.
ed dames
I think that Mr. Scallion's descriptions are more connected with visuals, with actual health and visions, and I think they're visuals.
Where our work, visuals, are just one very small aspect of what we do.
We download very accurately and rigorously ideas.
And sometimes those ideas trigger a visual memory, but many times they don't.
They simply become ideas that are expressed in terms of words.
art bell
Yes, but is it not communication probably from the same realm?
unidentified
I would...
ed dames
My guess is yes.
Also, I'd like to mention that since the last time we talked, Father Malachi Martin has passed away, and that was a great deal.
art bell
That was very hard...
very, very hard for me, Ed.
Father Malachi Martin and I had a number of private conversations, aside from what we did on the air.
And so I guess I can't talk about them.
But he did say something on the air about the third secret ephemera that will always be with me.
And that was, he said, Art, if you could imagine the very worst that mankind could face, it's worse than that.
And he had read the third secret ephemera.
And I always kind of wondered if there was a parallel to what you saw.
ed dames
The best way we could describe it in terms of remote viewing the third secret is the opening of what in Revelation is called the Sixth Seal.
You read that, and you'll see how bad can be.
art bell
And you believe that the Sixth Seal has been opened?
Yes.
ed dames
Let's see.
Let me start in on this.
Essentially, the revelation at Fatima, beginning in 1917, was three parts, two parts of which the Catholic Church made public eventually.
The third part, also called the third secret of Fatima, they did not.
Even though the apparition, which was judged to be a miracle by the Catholic Church, a bonafide miracle, even though the apparition that generated the original information requested through one of the girls who, and I can't remember the names, requested that this third part be made public no later than 1960.
And it was not by the Catholic Church.
art bell
According to Father Martin, the popes who have been in place have read it and individually have decided not to release it, going against the advice from the operation itself for whatever reason.
I presume you know why.
ed dames
Well, I do now.
At first, I thought it was rather arrogant, and that, you know, why would that information be withheld?
I'm sure it generated a great deal of anger on the part of many, many of the faithful.
Why should they keep information from the public?
art bell
Yes, why?
ed dames
Which was one of the reasons I accepted the task, why I chose this task.
Why would they hold back God's word as if the church thought it knew best?
art bell
Didn't you approach this with some trepidation, though?
You know, one of those things of, do I really want to know this?
ed dames
No, I didn't.
I approached it with the same verve and enthusiasm as I did with most projects.
However, I've changed my tune now that we've completed it.
In fact, it's changed my life permanently.
The third part of the Revelation, lowercase R, the Fatimid Revelation, is an announcement.
It's an announcement that heralds events described in the Revelation with a capital R. That's why the Catholic Church deemed that it was necessary to comment on it because it would only have been saying what had already been said by a higher authority.
That is, it would only have been a commentary on the Word of God.
And I'm going to get real specific here.
art bell
But you're saying the third secret is revelations.
ed dames
I'm saying that the third secret is indeed what is the end time prophecies themselves, the beginning of the end-time prophecies, specifically the heralding of events connected with the opening of the sixth seal.
In other words, the scroll, you know, in Daniel chapter 10, 11, Gabriel, the angel, chose Daniel the prophecies that concern the last generation.
These are the end-time prophecies contained in a sealed scroll of Revelations.
That scroll has been unsealed.
And that third part of Fatima essentially says that the scroll has been unsealed, and the next up is the sixth seal.
Very, very serious earthquakes and volcanism, war, and a celestial display of meteors falling from the sky.
I'm not going to sit here and educate the people who know more than I do about Revelation.
I'm going to tell you what I, as a professional remote viewer, downloaded from this.
And essentially, it is specifically.
I mean, I was a simple Christian until now.
I did not really take the Bible seriously, but I do now.
In fact, I take it very seriously.
It appears to be dead on, specifically dead on.
art bell
Father Martin has always said, there will be an unquestionable sign from the sky.
That's something the Father has said.
ed dames
I am telling you that that specific revelation, that part of the revelation, was specifically the opening of the sixth seal.
And that is why the church, I'm sure, decided not to say anything.
Because if you read Revelations and what that means, why say it again?
It doesn't need to be talked about anymore.
If it happens, it happens.
And I don't know what else to say about that.
We're talking about war.
We're talking about tremendous earthquakes and volcanism.
And we're talking about the events being accompanied by a lot of meteors falling from the sky.
Now, what has come out of this for me is some Very serious life changes.
And something that I've decided to do, that a project that is the most important project that any remote viewer, anyone who learns technical remote viewing or SciTech, can do in my mind.
And this is the project that I dedicate to Father Malachi Martin.
And that is this.
If you look forward in time, the way that along the timetable, the Revelations timetable in the Bible, the most important thing that technical remote viewing can do for generations to come is to identify what the mark of the beast is and who the beast is.
art bell
Oh, yes.
ed dames
Because if we lose our lives in the travails ahead, that's one thing.
But if we accept that particular mark, then we lose our souls.
We lose our souls.
And that is why it's imperative for us right now to identify, to begin to identify exactly in terms that we can understand today at the end of the 20th century what that mark is and who the beast is specifically.
That is the new project and that is the one I'm dedicating to Malachi Martin.
art bell
Is the third secret itself specific beyond so specific that it would have created a worldwide panic?
In other words, it is Revelations, but as you read Revelations in the Bible, it's specific and at the same time rather non-specific.
Is the Third Secret very specific?
What reason would there be other than duplication not to release it?
ed dames
I think for the reason that you just mentioned there were blastover worldwide panic.
I think that that was a wrong decision.
I mean, this is my own, this is Ed Dan speaking.
I think that that may have been a mistake on the part of the Catholic Church to hold it back.
To hold it back, yes.
And I'll tell you why.
Because knowing this now, albeit through technical remote viewing, has changed me.
It's redirected and reordered my priorities in life.
And in a way that I think is very important.
I think that that knowledge would have done the same thing to many believers, at least Christians, had it been promulgated when the apparition said that not later than 1960, when the apparition said that they should be promulgated.
So my advice is if for your listening audience, if you don't have a God to pray to, you better go out and get one.
Make sure it's the right one.
Get your internal house in order.
And you need some role models to look at some for minds and lives and the actions of people that are good role models.
Jesus Christ, Mother Teresa, or even Jimmy Carter will do.
art bell
The sixth seal is open.
ed dames
The opening of the sixth seal that is connected with the third part of the Fatima Revelation, also called the third secret of Fatima.
That's what's connected with that.
That's what that secret was.
That is what the Catholic Church held back.
art bell
Could SciTech locate the sixth seal?
ed dames
It is not a thing, Art.
It's not a thing.
It's an idea.
The seal itself is a set of circumstances and consequences.
It's not a thing.
art bell
All right.
ed dames
Like the Ark of the Covenant or the Holy Grail.
art bell
I've got you, yes.
It's esoteric.
ed dames
It's supernatural, what we call supernatural.
It's natural if your horizons are wider, but it's supernatural in terms of us menial human beings.
art bell
That's really frightening information.
ed dames
We selected the beast of Revelation 13.
We wanted to determine, and using today's lexicon, what the tool of technical remote viewing could download looking at the idea of the beast of Revelation 13.
And the beast, we thought, might equate to an individual, but it did not.
It is the animal nature of man as opposed to the divine nature of man.
That's where the field, this antichrist idea, this field that finds resonance.
That's the beast.
That is what we derive by looking at that term.
The term 666 is a symbol for the beast in Revelations, but it's also the number of a man, if you remember.
And what 666 amounts to, I've mentioned this once before, we did some further study on it to elaborate it.
It is essence, we end up sketching and describing actual physical money, and we end up describing situations where possession, greed, money, and lust are involved.
It's the vehicle via which the beast, this idea, rules the hearts of men, exercises the people.
Power is really exercised over people because of money, the root of all evil.
The vehicle of money is used.
The pursuit and the fixation upon worldly things.
So that's what that equates to.
But the mark of the beast was the most interesting of all because in prophecy it specifically states that women who are nursing children and woe to the woman who is nursing or with child because a heavy price is going to be paid by infants.
art bell
I remember you were saying this, Kanye, and it has to be, what, three years ago?
ed dames
About two and a half years ago.
art bell
Two and a half years ago.
Okay.
ed dames
We weren't sure.
We thought, remember, we thought at the time that we were dealing with the bovine AIDS?
art bell
Yes.
Oh, yes, I recall.
ed dames
It isn't.
It is this.
It is this vaccine.
art bell
But that was so close.
ed dames
Well, that's not good enough for us.
art bell
But that's still very close.
It's AIDS or a form of AIDS and it affects babies.
ed dames
But ironically, it's the vaccination itself that is defective in some way.
There's an advocacy group that's pushing the government.
They want the government to hurry.
Accusing the government of erring on the side of caution.
Well, and there's a consortium that's putting this out on the street.
art bell
I think, though, Ed, sensible people, if presented with an AIDS vaccine who understand their sex lives, what they're doing and what they're not doing, will act accordingly and will not exactly rush down to get something they don't need.
ed dames
They have no choice, Art.
If you're a child in school, you will not be able to go to a public school without being administered this vaccine.
You were a government employee, the same person.
art bell
You're saying it's going to be mandated?
ed dames
I'm saying you're compelled to take it.
It's going to be mandated to take it.
art bell
Over my dead body.
ed dames
Well, I mean, you're considering it.
I mean that.
art bell
Over my dead body.
Look, I understand how I conduct myself sexually.
I'm monogamous.
And I know that I'm okay.
I know my wife's okay.
That's it.
I'm not going to take, I don't care what they do.
I mean it over my dead body.
I would not go and take it.
ed dames
Well, again, harking back to Revelations, it is described that the people that refuse this mark will be essentially excommunicated to what in Revelations is termed the desert of the nations or the wilderness of the people.
art bell
Well, you know, I can actually see how that would occur.
In other words, the mark, as you call it, would make you socially acceptable.
The lack of the mark would make you virtually an outcast.
ed dames
Well, it goes deeper than that.
You're actually compelled and under, coerced, actually, to being vaccinated because you simply can't travel.
You can't get a good-paying job or perhaps any job if you don't have that vaccination because AIDS becomes such a terrible epidemic.
Look at Africa today.
And these are all young adults, the most economically important group that are dying for the most part.
And that's the group that the United States at least can't afford to lose because those are the ones that are going to pay Social Security for you and I. That is why this idea of the desert of the nations was so important.
Because, you know, what do you do if you're trying to escape the domination of a new world government?
You have to go somewhere.
And it turns out that this wilderness of the people are physical sites that are not pre-designated.
They're just places that congregations of people who do not want that mark end up and being together, like-minded people, spiritually oriented and like-minded.
And there's a sorting out.
There's a sort of an exodus that occurs to these spots.
And there's a sorting out that's difficult to understand.
Essentially, supposedly led and executed by angels.
But SciTech has called these spots sanctuaries.
They're sanctuaries in terms of geophysical events, too.
And lastly, the people at those places are to receive what Revelations calls the bond of the covenant.
Now, when we remote view this, we might as well be Nostradamus trying to describe a skyscraper or a Cadillac today.
It is something that I do not have a lexicon for.
The closest that I can describe this particular event, again, that's termed the bond of the covenant in any English language, is something like the fundamental particles of nature coalescing into a cloud above these people.
And that's all I can do with that.
I don't have the Pesaurus, the personal memory bank, the lexicon to be able to deal with what is happening here.
It's natural.
art bell
And is this why sometimes you're close, for example, the bovine AIDS and now the mark, the vaccination, but nevertheless the AIDS and still the children.
In other words, you see a result, but you don't quite see the mechanism that brings it about?
ed dames
Because we don't have the lexicon installed yet.
When we were looking, for instance, when we were looking at the idea of AIDS as a disease, of the HIV virus turning into a full-blown pandemic, wasn't there yet when we were trying to determine what was killing these children.
And when our lexicon is loaded, when our memory banks have this information, when we perceive an idea, an abstract idea, it's a right brain type of activity, that idea has to find the label in our memory banks.
If it can't find the label, we can't express it as individuals.
What Tritec in the past described as huge as this kill shot, a solar event of such magnitude that much of Earth will be affected and many people will be killed, we are now able to put into a timeframe because of our work in the last two months on revelations.
Those events, the mark of the beast, for instance, occurs as an event within the seven seal events.
It is one of the events that is described in terms of the opening of the seventh seal.
Also under the seven seal is an event where one-third of Earth's population will die in a horrible catastrophe.
That happens to be the kill shot.
So now we have a timeline, not only an event line, what event follows another, which event follows another, but we have a timeline now too, because the AIDS vaccine will be on the street in just over three years.
That's the mark of the beast, right?
So just about that same time frame will occur this massive solar event.
And now we know that we're talking about 2001 for this kill Shot.
So the kill shot is 2001.
art bell
So you finally put a date to it.
ed dames
We finally have it down within it, a date that we're comfortable with.
That we're comfortable with.
art bell
More and more scientists now, Ed, are suggesting that the dinosaurs received their own very special kill shot.
I have talked to a number of credentialed PhD types lately who have said that kill shots of the kind you describe, they believe, instead of the Big Bang theory, are responsible for the creation, destruction cycle that mainstream science is now beginning to embrace.
So what you're suggesting is now believed by many.
ed dames
Well, it's interesting to be alive.
When we consider how short the generation of man is, it's interesting to be alive at this point in time, to actually bear witness to these kinds of things, that there's the horror and all of the other attendant human emotions.
But nevertheless, it happens to be a very unique, synchronistic time to be alive, I think.
art bell
It is that.
This concludes our new Millennium Special.
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