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Oct. 20, 1999 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - Secret Societies Hotline

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just heard this great American Southwest side, but you all could think it's more supporting wherever you may be across this great land.
		For example, the Hush and the Fine Island Chains specifically located in the Pacific West of the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where holy hell is breaking loose tonight.
		All the way to the pole.
unidentified		This is coast to post a morning, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Open line off nights.
		There is going to be but one.
		And that is my first time caller line.
		Actually, I guess I'll take them on any line, but we'll exclusively devote the first time caller line to any members out there, and there's a lot of out there, of a secret society.
		That's right.
		People have been urging me to do a show on various secret societies.
		And I thought, why limit oneself to one secret society?
unidentified		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's probably all kinds of really secret societies because we don't know about them because they're secret, right?
		So, along with the rather well-known secret societies, we are going to limit that line, area code 702-727-1222, to anybody who wants to tell us about your secret society.
		Now, I just wonder what we'll get.
		I have no idea.
		It's open to anybody in any secret society.
		I don't want to say anybody who knows about secret societies, but is not a part of one, because we all have our suspicions, right?
		But what do we know?
		So you've got to be a member of a secret society willing to at least tell us something about your society.
		I mean, surely you have a handshake, a wink, a secret sign of some sort, you have ceremonies, you have, well, who knows what you have because it's secret, right?
		And for years and years and years, people have been talking about these various secret societies.
		And I don't have to list them here for you.
		You've heard it on talk radio for as long as there's been talk radio.
		Lord, the Masons did it.
		You know they did.
		You know what they do.
		They are but one.
		They're not.
unidentified		Well, they're a little secret.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, we're devoting tonight's program on that line to members of secret societies who would like a well, if you want to blow the whistle.
		Or maybe disenfranchised members of secret societies who are still alive.
		I mean, some of them, of course, probably aren't still alive.
		They blew the whistle and they were liquidated by the society.
		I mean, once you take the oath, you can't go blabbing publicly, right?
		And if you do, why you're with Jimmy Hoffa somewhere.
		So, we're going to do that.
		Otherwise, let us take a quick look at the news, and there is some.
		Hurricane Jose is ripping roofs from houses.
		It's tearing down churches.
		It's flinging debris through deserted streets in Antigua.
		It's hitting Antigua head-on, threatening a string of other Caribbean islands, one of which I'm heard on.
		Actually, I'm heard on the majority.
		You know what?
		We should leave a line open for the Caribbean.
		I wonder if they've got telephone service or if it's already off.
		Are you guys in St. Thomas okay?
		Are you going to be okay?
		Are you preparing for the worst?
		Jose at 100 miles an hour.
		The Prime Minister, acting Prime Minister, actually, Sam Condor, told the people of St. Kitts and Neves to prepare for the worst.
		Forecasters think that Jose is going to swing north and probably miss the U.S. We'll see.
		In the meantime, I've got a lot of listeners, of course, in the Caribbean.
		And if you would like to call me, why don't you use the wildcard line?
		Let's hold that open a little bit for people down in the U.S. Virgin Islands who can hear my voice.
		And that would be a lot of you.
		I believe they start with the first hour.
		They may start with the second hour.
		I don't remember anymore.
		So, the wildcard line area code 702-727-1295.
		We devote to anybody in the Caribbean so you can let us know what's going on.
		And by the way, as always, I should mention that if you would like to see this radio program, what a thrill, huh?
		It's like watching grass grow.
		Seeing a radio program.
		I am but a talking head.
		Nevertheless, many people find it intriguing to see the person behind the voice on the radio.
		You can do it.
		It is kind of fun, actually, because you get to hear it as well.
		And the audio quality is very, very good, actually.
		All you do is go to my website, download the G2 player.
		It's free.
		Now, there is a version you can pay for, but this one, it's free.
		So you download it.
		If you want more bells and whistles, then you can buy one.
		But otherwise, the free version will do you just fine.
		Put it into your computer.
		Come back to my website on the left-hand side.
		You'll see streaming video.
		Click on that.
		Follow the yellow brick road.
		And you will be seeing and hearing me on your computer monitor very quickly indeed.
		Louisiana Republicans have changed the date of their 2000 presidential caucuses to January 15th, nine days before Iowa's traditionally first in the nation caucuses.
		Iowa is going to be pissed.
		And Louisiana officials threaten to change the date again, even to as early as New Year's Day in the unlikely event that Iowa should get ticked off and reschedule its caucuses.
		So I guess everybody wants to be first, and Louisiana is determined to be first, even if they have to make it tomorrow, so to speak.
		There is some pretty serious health news floating about.
		Meningitis warnings.
		They're recommending colleges, U.S. colleges, make meningitis vaccines readily available and they warn students of the risks of the disease.
		CDC did stop short of recommending that all college students be vaccinated, said they didn't go further in recommendations because current meningitis vaccines are no more than 90% effective and don't work on all strains.
		So that sounds serious, huh?
		And so does this, Monterey, Mexico.
		Dengue fever has swept across northern Mexico near the Texas border.
		It has killed at least seven people and making thousands of others ill.
		About 5,500 people in Nuevo Leon have been diagnosed now with a painful mosquito-borne disease.
	This month alone, of those, about 150 have come down with a serious, sometimes deadly form known as hemorrhagic dengue.
	Now, that's the bad one.
	That's the hemorrhagic means you bleed out.
	Remember the stories about Ebola and how people die with Ebola?
	Well, dengue fever will do that to you too.
	And it's rights coming across the border.
	Now let's see.
	Hurricanes destroying everything in their path, tornadoes with winds never before seen, environmental degradation, ice caps melting, earthquakes seven magnitude and better all over the place.
	And on and on and on the list goes.
	I would remind many of you out there that I wrote of this some years ago in a book you can still get called The Quickening.
	And actually, as you read that book, you will realize we are precisely now in the middle of everything described in that book.
	There are yet a few things in that book that we have yet to experience, but most of them are well underway.
	And that was, I don't want to say predicted by me, but written about by me several years ago.
	The quickening.
	If you get an opportunity to grab hold of a copy, I think you will find it interesting to read what was written several years ago.
	We'll be right back.
	All right, secret societies and hurricanes in the Caribbean coming up shortly.
	And then whatever else you want to talk about, Fair Game 2.
	So open line, so anything is okay.
	But I really do want secret societies.
	We've never openly discussed this on the radio, never.
	This is your opportunity tonight if you are a member of one.
	Or maybe somebody in your immediate family has blabbed to you.
	And if you don't think they'll kill you, you can call us and tell us about it.
	This is kind of an interesting facts from one of my listeners.
	Scientists have successfully built a device that can send light into the future, which is sort of a crude time machine.
	When they figure out how to reverse that device and send a light beam back in time, then they will send a Morse code type of signal relaying technology and news that has not yet taken place.
	Oh, well, that'd be brilliant if we managed to get a signal across time toward what was.
	What a brilliant move.
	Scientists plan to send a Morse code message back in time.
	Have they ever heard of the word paradox?
	So I can just see some idiot there tapping out a Morse code message about how to construct a time machine to fling something into the future.
	And about three-quarters of the way through, the Morse code sender and all the rest of us suddenly blink out.
	Finally got a paradox put together.
	The United States, according to United Press International, is 25 to 30 years behind now in the development of vaccines against biological weapons and must dramatically alter its approach if it is ever to catch up.
	The UBI reported to Ken Albach, former deputy director of the Soviet Civilian Biological Weapons Program.
	He said, quote, I didn't want to say this, but we have a problem developing protection against biological weapons.
	Now we have a very significant gap between our defense and what can be used that is used offensively against us.
	He had been one of the CIA's top sources of information on the Russian biological weapons program since its detection in 1992.
	He said, the Soviet Union developed at least 100 strains of disease for use in weapons, but the U.S. is still developing antidotes for those developed back in the 1970s.
	Developing single vaccines for each strain is called an unworkable solution.
	Instead, he's recommending a novel approach, directing research toward strengthening the human immune system to resist all viruses rather than just inoculating against a few.
	In other words, he's basically saying, it's impossible.
	They have too many, and if they let them loose, you're not going to be able to stop them.
	and the best thing you can have is a good, strong immune system.
	Somebody sent me the history of masonry, otherwise known as the doctors who wear the aprons.
	In medieval times, masonry was also known as the Brotherhood or the Craft.
	Freemasonry evolved from the craft guilds of stonemasons, hence the name.
	In 1717, so you can see these societies have been around a long time, the foundation of the United Grand Lodge of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England, the oldest body in masonry, arrives in 1733.
	The first American lodge was established in Boston.
	In 1791, the first performance of Mozart's opera, The Magic Flute, outrages Vienna's Freemasons by allegedly revealing some of their secrets.
	In 1888, Jack the Ripper murders five prostitutes in the east end of London.
	In his book, The Brotherhood, Granada, 1983, Stephen Knight claimed the killings were committed by three Freemasons in order to prevent the prostitutes revealing the fact that Prince Edward had secretly married and fathered a child by a Roman Catholic commoner.
	Oh, could it be true?
	In 1952, Prince Philip joins the Navy Lodge 2612.
	He was a reluctant mason and had to be persuaded to join by George VI.
	In 1967, in a ceremony at the Royal Albert Hall, in order to mark the 250th anniversary of the Grand Lodge, the Duke of Kent is installed as Grand Master.
	See, these secret societies have secret grand names, too, like Grand Master.
	In 1982, God's Banker, that's God's Banker, Roberto Cali, a leading Mason, is found hanged beneath Blackfriars Bridge in London.
unidentified		Oh my, what do you think that happened?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some famous Masons you may not have known about Mozart, Boswell, Oscar Wilde, Franklin Roosevelt, Ernest Borgnine, Buzz Aldrin, Masonic symbols include square, compass, plum line, and level white leather aprons, ritual colors of blue and gold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there you have a brief history of what little we know about Masons.
unidentified		But you see, it's not just the Masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an entire range of secret societies, some of them that would make the Masons look like pikers in comparison.
		And why is that?
		I'll tell you why.
		Because we don't know about them because they're secret.
unidentified		Where can you find out about them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only here and only tonight.
		So, if you belong to a secret order of some kind and you want to tell us or tattoo us with just a little of the information about your organization, its goals, its desires, its passions, its rituals, then this is your night.
		Tomorrow may not be your day, but this is your night.
		Secret Societies.
		Come on.
		We're ready for you.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AF.
unidentified		We've been traveling far.
		Without a home.
		Not without a star.
		Free.
		Only one will be free.
		Free.
		Falling in love was the last thing I had on my mind.
		Holding you is the warmth that I thought I could never find.
		I'm just trying to be the time.
		Only by your hand.
		I know I'm the one.
		I just love the answer.
		The questions keep going through my eyes.
		Baby.
		It's a time to say.
		take a ride?
		Well, call our bell from west to the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255 East to the Rockies at 1-800-825-5033 first-time callers may reach out at 1-775-727-1222 the wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295 and to reach out on the toll-free international line call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903 this is Coast
		Coast to coast AM with Art Bell on the premier radio network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		It's basically open lines on the toll-free line.
		That's how we're going to operate tonight for a little while.
		The first-time caller line is reserved away for anybody in a secret society ready to flap.
		Now, yes, there are going to be a lot of strange people that are going to come along, and you're going to hear some strange stories that may in fact not be at all believable.
		But you've got to bear in mind that if you don't listen before this night is over, you may miss the real thing.
unidentified		I feel warmth in my heart and my soul that I never knew.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All warm and fuzzy about doing this show.
unidentified		This love affair gives me strength that I need just to get me free.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet they'll rip me off the air.
		Anyway, secret societies.
		And then on the wild card line, let me first say, secret society magic.
		members at area code 702 7271222 nothing but now on the wildcard line i'm telling i realize i'm taking a shot in the dark here because uh hurricane jose is already over the caribbean ravaging across Antigua at the moment but if you can hear us in St. Thomas in the Caribbean I would sure like a call from you so I'll reserve that line away area code 702727
		Oh, I'm giving the wrong area code.
unidentified		Damn it, anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They changed our area code here, and so I sit here like Pavlov's dog reading the old area code.
		Let me change that, all right?
		It's area code 775-727-1222.
		You know, I better fix this right now.
		It's ridiculous giving out a stupid old area code that only people in Las Vegas have.
unidentified		We have the exclusive 775.
		Put that here, 775.
		There.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, Joe, I guess I'm going to have to do this all over again, huh, since I gave out the wrong damn number.
		So here it is.
		Secret Society members at area code 775-727-1222.
		Callers exclusively from the Caribbean area threatened by Jose may call, and we're holding the line open for you at area code 775-727-1295.
		775-727-1295.
		And then the east and west of the Rockies line there for everybody else.
		Soll free, anything goes, open line, talk radio.
		That is what is directly ahead.
unidentified		Just one little item before we begin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the only time I'm ever going to say this, so you better listen closely.
		When I die, I am going to do what Houdini did not do.
		I am going to come back and supply you with proof of the afterlife.
		Now, the only question I have in my mind is what would be the most appropriate way to do this?
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what you heard what I said.
		When I die, I'm coming back in some form, in some way, to supply you all with proof of the afterlife and or my absence, of course.
		I suppose the opposite.
unidentified		That's what I'm going to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm coming back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All I need is a few suggestions about where I should show my ghostly face to attempt to prove all this to you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's go to the Caribbean.
unidentified		to St. Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands that's where you are huh yes that's correct WSTA WSTA 1340 that's right that's how to plug your affiliate while they're still in the air all right listen what's going on down there well right now it's real quiet I mean it's almost eerie I guess it's the calm before the storm but there's there's nothing going on we're just waiting it out the next few hours will tell the story whether it's going to go north as predicted or whether we're going to catch the eye over St. Thomas and Tigua getting the hell pound out of it right now that's what I'm hearing
		and some roofs gone.
		They're dealing with it pretty well.
		We're kind of used to it out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you say used to it or fed up with it or go home about it?
		How do you feel about it now?
		There's been so much.
unidentified		The way I look at it, it's the price you pay for living in paradise.
		I mean, it actually is paradise all the other times of the year, so there's a price to pay come hurricane season.
		We've been spared a lot of them, but every once in a while we get our share.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe she figures you've been having too much fun that's possible that's possible So another how far away is this sucker from you now?
unidentified		Well, it's predicting it's about a hundred miles, a little over a hundred miles.
unidentified		It's over St. Martin from what I've heard last.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Martin.
unidentified		And yeah, and the eyes it is on the projected path, the eye is going to come about 40 miles from us.
		Well, that's not good.
		Well, the interesting part is most of the storms are to the north and the east.
		So the south and the west part of it, it's not too bad.
		I mean, it's not a perfect circle with the eye in the center.
		Right.
		So it's going to be close one way or the other.
		But it looks like the local forecasters are saying we're probably in pretty good shape, but if it turns to the left, it could be trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all it needs to do is wobble a little bit, I guess, huh?
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is St. Thomas battening down the hatches?
unidentified		That's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Everybody's boarded up.
		I'm sitting inside all boarded up on every window.
		And you do what you best you can and just wait it out.
		See what the cards are dealt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really want to come and visit my affiliate.
unidentified		We'd love you.
		We'd love to have you here.
		I'd really love here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd love to come down there, and I'm going to do it.
		I'm not sure when.
		It's like carving out the time is nearly impossible.
		But I'm going to come down.
		In the meanwhile, I wish you all well there, and I'm glad that the RSTA is on the air.
		I wonder if they're going to be breaking in with emergency announcements.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sure they will.
unidentified		Yeah, they generally do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, hang in there.
		Are you going to stay awake?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah, I'm going to stay awake and wait it out.
		I want to see what's going on.
		Just wait for the wind to pick up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on, what, Eastern time?
unidentified		Yeah, it's during daylight savings time.
unidentified		We're on the same time as New York, but we don't recognize daylight savings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good for you.
		I wouldn't either if I didn't have to.
		Thank you, sir.
unidentified		Come down and see us.
unidentified		We love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you.
		I don't recognize it either.
		Oh, there's St. Thomas.
		The calm, he says, before the storm.
		Well, that's good.
		That means they can get through to us.
		40 miles, I wouldn't be so comfortable about 40 miles at all.
		I mean, look at NASA.
		They missed by how much?
		First time calling a line, you're on the air.
		Actually, no, my secret society line.
unidentified		Yep, that's me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in a secret society, huh?
unidentified		Yes, I am a master mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are a master mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how does that differ from a 33 degree?
unidentified		Well, let's talk about that real quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First of all, I want to tell you about all the I don't know anything about masonry.
unidentified		Okay.
		Let me tell you about what people consider levels, right?
		Yes, yes, yes.
		Okay, well, first of all, let's start with the youth organizations.
		Masonic Temple support what's called Job's Daughters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is where they train the youth to receive the sacred secrets, right?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I wouldn't say train as it makes it sound like Hitler youth.
		It is named anything like that.
		But yeah, there's Rainbow for Girls, Job's Daughters, and then De Malay.
		And first off, I'd like to say probably the most famous Mason was George Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		George Washington.
unidentified		George Washington was a mason.
unidentified		As for De Malay, which is before you become a mason, D. Malay is up to the age, I think, of 21, and then at the age of 21, you can become a mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what about Mozart and Franklin Roosevelt?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These are not trivial masons.
unidentified		No, no, not by any means either.
		But as a D. Malay, Bill Clinton was a D Malay.
		Ah!
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought so.
unidentified		Well, I don't know if he's a Mason, but he was in D. Malay.
unidentified		At least that's what I came out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know if heard once a Mason, always a Mason.
unidentified		Well, yeah, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, it is true, then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the handshake, sir?
unidentified		Well, no, that isn't true because for...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean Masons can be...
unidentified		For instance, we pay dues to our lodge.
		If you don't pay your dues, then basically they just suspend your membership.
		You're no longer a member.
		And that's happened for some people in our lodge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you know, you're once a Marine, always a Marine, Semper Fi, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but as for So you couldn't really be a poverty-stricken mason.
unidentified		Well, yeah, you could be...
		Well, that's not always true because for people we find what if Masons who are older don't have the money to do that and the lodge will go through and pay the dues for them and that happens quite a lot well there are some out there who would think that that's being done so you know they won't talk no no nothing nothing like that in fact most all the secrets of masonry to the chagrin of a lot of masons have come out in
		books and even on TV.
		All the secrets are out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All the secrets?
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		Let's qualify.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said you're a master mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does that compare to a – there is a 33-degree mason, right?
unidentified		And actually, before I get into that, let's go into the levels, okay?
		What people call levels, there really aren't levels.
		Well, there is and there isn't.
		Okay.
		I'm a master mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Typical secret society answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I am a master mason, and being a master mason, that allows me to join, say, the Scottish Rite, the York Rite, or a seostress, or the shrine.
		And a lot of people know about the seostress.
		They're wearing the funny feathers.
		They're always in the parade.
		Feathers?
		They also have the burn hospital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do the feathers mean?
unidentified		The feathers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, feathers.
		What feathers?
		You just said feathers in gray.
unidentified		Feathers.
		Feathers.
		What?
		The feathers.
		The red cap, like in each – Oh, yes, yes, yes.
		Yeah, the feathers.
		Okay, I'm sorry.
		Feathers.
		Feathers.
		I'm not a member of the shrine.
		I'm not a member of Josh Rite or the York Rite, so I won't comment on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are limited on time here, so what I really need to know is, how far are you from being what the American public thinks of as a 33-degree mason?
unidentified		Oh, very far.
unidentified		The 33-degree mason is a mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		a ceremonial degree all right so now see it's not see here's where I've got to stop you when you say most of the Masonic secrets are known in books or literature or whatever, I say to you, how could you possibly know?
		Because everybody thinks that when you get to be a 33 degree, then you get information that nobody else has.
		Nobody.
unidentified		Oh, that isn't true at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you possibly know that?
unidentified		I mean, you can say.
		I've talked to, first of all, a 33rd degree mason is part of the Scottish Rite.
		Yes.
		Before you can go into the Scottish Rite Shrine or York Rite, you have to be a Master Mason.
		Yes.
		Okay.
		I've talked to people who are in the Scottish Rite, and I asked specifically about that because it's such a big secret they're not going to tell you.
		They are just like a Master Sergeant.
		They told me straight up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They told you what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The truth?
unidentified		Yeah.
		How do you know it was the truth?
		No, no, no.
		Be fair with me here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if there are really serious secrets, how could you possibly know it's the truth?
unidentified		Because they wouldn't tell me if they couldn't.
unidentified		They would not tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For fear of giving away the fact that there are things that are not known at your level.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
unidentified		There's no fear involved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No fear.
unidentified		No fear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, I'm forced to ask you, how do you know that?
unidentified		How do I know that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because you've asked, you say.
unidentified		Well, let's look at it this way.
		Okay, the three levels that I've gone through, right, to become a master mason.
		Yeah.
		If there was fear involved with that, they wouldn't have told me when I've asked about the other levels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we don't, you see, the American public doesn't think the fear, as you call it, begins until you get to the higher levels of information.
		And then there's fear.
		And there's enough fear, sir, that people like you wouldn't be told a damn thing.
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		No, no, no, no, no.
		No, first of all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, but you really can't know that.
unidentified		Well, let me talk about the organizational structure first.
		Okay?
		You mentioned the Grand Master.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's like a pyramid.
unidentified		Kind of not.
unidentified		Kind of not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of not?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what's it kind of like?
unidentified		Okay.
		In Masonry, in the United States, each state is separate.
		There is no national organization.
		There is a Grand Master for each state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're telling me that they're not connected in any way.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No, specifically not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm really having a hard time with this.
		I mean, Masonry has got to have some larger total connection.
		It certainly can't be absolutely individual or the rites and the rituals and the messages and what secrets there are, and we can argue about that, I guess, but they wouldn't be passed from one to the other, so you would not have any sort of coherent organization.
unidentified		There is, on the state level.
		The Grandmaster is to...
		Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're telling me that the Grand Master of Nebraska doesn't talk to the Grand Master of Iowa?
unidentified		Oh, I'm sure they do.
		Aha.
		But as for how the ritual is done in Nebraska and how it's done in Iowa, it can be different.
		And it is different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the basic tenants are roughly the same.
unidentified		Pretty much, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, pretty much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, then that implies an obvious connection between a cells.
unidentified		mean well you go into the southern states though you visit a lodge in the southern states and the ritual will be not 100% completely different but there will be differences well but mostly Okay, but sir, mostly you have similarities, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And those similarities can only be if there's a connection between the various lodges, not cells.
unidentified		Well, there's the ritual they try to keep from being changed throughout the ages, all the way back.
unidentified		But what everybody wants to talk about is the Luminatai.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Illuminati, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what everybody is trying to connect masonry to.
unidentified		And there's no connection to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No connection whatsoever, is that right?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing, huh?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not even so much as a whisper back and forth, huh?
unidentified		I don't believe so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, listen, I've got to go.
		Am I in some doubt?
		Mary Hill used to hang out in Cherry Hill Park.
		The game she played lasted all day to her after dark.
		All the girls they could have fighted.
		But all the guys just out of life, sir Cause Mary Hill What's up with him that you've done In Cherry Hill Park
		Mary East of the Rockies, 1-800-8255033.
		First time callers may reach out at 1775-727-1222.
		And the wildcard line is open at 1775-727-1295.
		To reach out on the 12-free international line, call your HCNC operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell, formed by Kingdom of Nye.
		Ha, ha, ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember Mary Hill?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A rich Mason, no doubt.
		Oh, well.
		Good morning, everyone.
		We are doing several things at once here.
		We are reserving away one line, let me give you that number, for people in secret societies.
		Now, obviously, we're going to hear from Masons, I know, and maybe the Illuminati.
		But you know, what I'm really anxious to hear about are some of the secret societies that are so secret that we don't know about them.
		The secret order of, that kind of thing.
		So, if you feel like you can talk about it and live through the experience, then call me on the special secret society line, area code 775727.
		Now, the other line I'm holding open is for the Caribbean.
		People in St. Thomas and so forth, because Hurricane Jose is bearing down on you.
		My last caller in the Caribbean, as St. Thomas said, may pass, may pass, 40 miles north.
		It's got 100 mile per hour winds.
		So they're battening down the hatches in the Caribbean, so I'm sort of talking to people there.
		The toll-free lines are open for anything you want to talk about all night long, open lines.
		With the exception, as I just mentioned, I do want to hear about secret societies.
		I just had a master mason on here, and I don't know.
		I don't know.
		He said, you know, he fed me the company line.
		No secrets.
		They're all out.
		They've been in books.
		They're all in print.
		And I say, well, how would you know?
		And he said, well, because I asked.
		Well, if it's such a big secret, well, obviously he's not going to be told, is he?
		So we kind of went round and round a little bit.
		Anyway, more in a moment.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I said I wasn't going to say this more than once, but I really can't resist because I'm considering it, and I will consider all ideas, but I think I've got the answer.
		I said, I'm coming back.
		When I die, I've decided I'm coming back.
		I'm going to do what Houdini has not yet done.
		Though time may not be a factor over there, and Houdini may yet get through.
		But I'm going to come back.
		I'm going to do it.
		I've decided.
		If it's possible, I'm going to do it.
		The only question was, how do I do it?
		Do I come back and confront the President of the United States?
		No.
		Nobody believed me.
		His wife?
		No.
		She's already talking to Eleanor Roosevelt.
		So who do I?
		What sort of unimpeachable source could report to you that I've returned?
		It doesn't seem like there is one.
		So my idea is to return to the airwaves.
		To the one place you're used to hearing me anyway.
		So if you hear that I have expired, then you listen carefully.
		Search between the stations.
		Listen very carefully in either.
		Listen for a voice that you'd heard before, one that sounds like mine.
unidentified		That's a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the best source I can think of, all of you out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okey-doky, on my secret society line, you are on the air, top of the morning.
unidentified		Hello, how are you doing?
unidentified		I'm doing all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to speak right into your phone, sir.
unidentified		Okay, how's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's better.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And to what secret society do you belong?
unidentified		I'm a mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another mason?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two masons in a row.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, we just had a guy that said he was a master mason, but I didn't like the way he answered my questions.
unidentified		Well, I listened to him, and he's close.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close?
unidentified		Yeah, he's closer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But close, but no cigar?
unidentified		No.
		No.
		Well, what?
		First of all, a 33rd degree mason.
		You asked him about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did, yes.
unidentified		That's a shriner.
		No.
		That's the shrine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then so you feel he didn't properly understand what a 33-degree mason was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if he didn't, then he couldn't be a mason.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		And no good shriner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he was feeding me a bunch of mortar.
unidentified		I think so.
unidentified		I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you, on the other hand, claim to be the real McCoy.
unidentified		I'm a real Master Mason, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A real Master Mason.
unidentified		Well, have been a secret.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that you know all the secrets that a 33-degree would know?
unidentified		No.
		Absolutely not.
		See there, folks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See there, folks.
		I knew it.
		And would you buy his story that, well, there are no more secrets.
		They're all known.
		And he asked, well, how do you know?
		He said, well, I asked some 33-degree Mason.
		And they said, no, no, there's no more secrets.
unidentified		Not for a minute.
		No, absolutely not.
		Now, I'll tell you what.
		Yes, we do have secrets, and we do protect them.
		We have very few secrets, but we do have them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I knew that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another thing he said was that Masonic temples do not talk to lodges, don't talk to one another.
unidentified		That couldn't be further from the truth.
unidentified		No, no, absolutely not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You guys are probably out there playing baseball games against each other.
unidentified		Well, I don't know about that, but we communicate state to state.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, my bumper music was appropriate then.
unidentified		Could be, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
unidentified		I appreciate your call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		A master mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, we're going to hear a lot as the night progresses.
		And again, one of the things I want to hear about are secret societies that we don't know about, never even heard about.
		Now, I realize that the people calling and telling us whatever they're telling us about all this risk.
		Well, they're risking it all, actually.
		So you never know.
		I mean, you're going to hear a lot of things tonight that are probably untrue, but just in that lot somewhere, you're just liable to get some real information now.
		Will you recognize it when you hear it?
		Only you can be the judge of that.
		Ron Gardan, you're on the air, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, hi there.
		Hello.
		I was a member of the Rosicrucians in San Jose for six years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you were?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are they all about?
unidentified		Well, they've got some psychic strength, I'll tell you.
		I sent in my application form, and about the time I would guess that they received it, I was sleeping this one night, and then into my dream came this printed letters, Rosicrucians, and it really startled me in my dream and woke me two-thirds up.
		And then the next night, the same thing happened again and woke me up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're telling me they have the power to submit their forms to you in dreams.
unidentified		Yeah, the ultimate bureaucrats, I guess, psychic bureaucrats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd say it's on postage.
unidentified		Yeah, and a number of funny things happened to me when I was a member of them, all of them good, but I came to realize that there was a side to them that didn't meet the eye.
unidentified		For example, they send you these lessons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lessons?
unidentified		Yeah, for a month.
unidentified		You get this package once a month, and it's got four lessons in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What sort of lessons?
unidentified		Oh, they talk about physical principles and relate them to spiritual principles, and then they talk about psychic development exercises.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Now, I'll give you an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, that sounds a little like the craft, sort of some portion of magic or the craft or whatever you want to call it.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		They're wanting to develop people into healers and people with mind over matter powers.
		No doubt about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think they would, if they developed this power, what do you think it would be used for?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that goes more toward your earlier comment about some darker areas that you became aware of.
unidentified		Well, I didn't say darker.
		I wouldn't say anything like that about them.
		Healing is important to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you say then?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't darker, would you say?
unidentified		I said there was a side to them that didn't meet the eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I guess I just jumped on the negative side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're saying it's positive?
unidentified		Well, I never saw anything negative whether I was associated with them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't mean, as I told the last caller.
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes, of course.
		I had some interesting psychic experiences when I was working with them.
		I'll give you an example.
		There was this one lesson, it was fairly early in the studies, where they're talking about psychic energy.
		And I sort of got this actually happened.
		They said, put down the lesson.
		I forget what they call these things.
		Not mandamuses.
		But anyways, put down the lesson book.
		So I just put it down at that point, and I felt waves and waves of energy coming over me at exactly the moment that I put it down.
		They have you working with mirrors quite a bit.
		You set up two candles on opposite sides of the mirror.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, mirrors and candles.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And you look into the mirrors.
		Now, I never saw anything in the mirrors.
		I wasn't all that much committed to doing that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's that.
		Listen, mirrors are used for a variety of things that are within the realm of the paranormal.
		Mirrors are used for all kinds of things.
		Even visiting relatives that have passed on.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		And I went to their university down in San Jose one summer, and I met this guy there, and he told me a story.
		He said that one time this fellow appeared, this male appeared in his mirror.
		And then when he went to the university down there, he saw this guy, and it was an elderly priest that was associated with them.
		And when I was down there at their university for three weeks, I used to do meditations in their courtyard where the ashes of their founder were interred.
		And I tell you, the meditations that I had in that courtyard around this man's interred ashes were something else entirely.
		They're qualitatively different than any other kind of meditation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why, pray tell, after six years, would you leave?
unidentified		Oh, they kind of, the fellow that was in charge of it died, and a lot of people left at about that same time.
		I don't know what kind of shape they're in now, but they were founded by this one fellow named Lewis, and he died, and his son took over, and it was the younger Lewis that was in charge when I was a member, and then that fellow died, and a lot of people left at that point, and that was about 10 years ago.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really appreciate your input.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Welcome, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		So there you have Rosicrucians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know very little about them.
		But it sounds like, if you believe, if what he said is accurate, that it sounds like they're using a lot of things that sound like magic or the craft or lean into the paranormal.
		Is that true of most of these organizations?
unidentified		I wonder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Easton the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Eric from Tulsa.
		Hi, Eric.
		K-Q-U-L-L.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		K-Q-L-L.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I have three quick points I want to make.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Okay, on the first one, you were talking about your DX contest.
		Probably be a good idea to have before January 1st.
		And then on the second one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wha what are you talking about, DX contest?
unidentified		You said at one minute Tom you mentioned having a DX contest, see how many people could get your his name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, in other words, how many radio stations people could hear me on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Um, Yeah, you've got a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After January 1st, who knows?
unidentified		You might not need it then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either I may be on half the number I'm on now or none at all.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		Yeah, you're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I better do it soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And then on the second point, in West Virginia, I heard on the shortwave that in West Virginia, they're having a hard time withdrawing some of their money out of the bank.
		Oh?
		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did you hear that?
unidentified		I heard that, I think it was yesterday on a shortwave on the Genesis network.
		Do you think it's true?
		Well, they've mentioned it a couple times, and they heard that some people were having a hard time withdrawing their money so they could get gold.
		And that's what they were having a problem with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when you say a hard time, does that mean when you go to the bank and you say, here, I want my money, I want X number of dollars, they simply say no?
unidentified		I don't know.
		Maybe we ought to have people call in from West Virginia and find out.
		I don't know the whole story, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty scary if it's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it sounds like it's a rumor.
unidentified		Right.
		So I guess with all the listeners you have, you might be able to find that one out.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll see what I can do.
unidentified		Okay, and one more point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One more point.
unidentified		Okay, I heard that on shortwave, they're getting ready to move all their shortwave to sideband.
unidentified		Is that true, and why are they going to do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I certainly have not heard that, and I wouldn't think that they would do that.
		There would be some shortwave stations that might go to sideband.
		It would conserve band space.
		It would allow them to be heard at a far greater distance.
		But most of the casual shortwave listeners don't have the ability to hear sideband.
		So it's hard for me to believe the majority of shortwave broadcasters would do that.
		But as inefficient as AM is compared to sideband, it's still a lot more pleasant to listen to.
		A lot more pleasant.
		All right.
		Well, let's go back to our secret society line.
		You are on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hello.
		I represent the First United Osirians chapter of the followers of Horus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you say that twice?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say it again.
unidentified		I represent the First United Osirians chapter of the followers of Horus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that sounds pretty scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, who was Horus?
unidentified		Horus was the son of Osiris.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, that Horus.
		And what can you tell us of your organization and what goals it has and what secret rituals it has?
		I've never heard of it, but I'll bet.
unidentified		An initiate would receive certain specific texts and by concentration of mind is to unravel their mystery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you're given certain texts and you read these and you concentrate and you come up with the appropriate answers, but they are not specifically spelled out on paper?
unidentified		Basically along those lines, yes.
unidentified		There's three specific texts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but what could it say?
		Like, who killed Kennedy?
		Think about it.
unidentified		No, it doesn't say anything.
		It reveals information.
		Visual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, actually reading this causes you to begin to visualize what actually occurred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you give me an example, or is that not allowed?
unidentified		It's rather difficult to explain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, give me an example of a secret that was revealed to you.
unidentified		The relationship between the ancient Egyptians and the Mayans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know about that?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you talk about it?
unidentified		I can say that it's concealed within these texts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you can't really talk about it, can you?
unidentified		Well, I am talking about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you're saying there was a relationship, but you can't give us the details of that relationship.
unidentified		No, that's for an initiate to discover on their own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what would happen to you if you, on my radio program tonight, gave it away, actually gave the whole thing away and told us the whole story?
		What would happen to you?
		Nothing would happen to me.
unidentified		It's not the...
		Like I said, it's based on a sharing of this knowledge, but yet...
		Well, nothing would happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, anyway, you're saying.
unidentified		Okay, I'll give you an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're at the bottom of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		I don't want to only mention with a tear in every room.
unidentified		All I want is to love you, promise, beneath the hallowed roof.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody remember this one?
unidentified		But you think I should be happy with your money and your name And hide myself in sorrow while you play your cheap game
		Silver, fresh, and golden needle And I'm dead, that's part of mine And I live outside And I live outside
		Only in America can a guy from anywhere go to sleep of all her and wake up familiar.
		Only in America, and a kid without a set.
		It'll break and maybe grow up to be better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		if he's in the right society.
unidentified		This is all a crossbones thing.
		I'm going to see you.
		I'm going to see you.
		Somebody say from a small state like Arkansas.
		A small state like Arkansas.
		A small state like Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what I'm talking about.
		None whatsoever.
		Listen, somebody writes, not just somebody, but my board op at the Mighty WPHT in Philadelphia.
		Maybe I missed it last night.
		Yes, you did.
		But I was wondering what your thoughts were on the passing of Radio Legend Gene Shepard on Monday.
		And for years and years, he was on overnight radio on WOR in New York.
		My competitor in New York, I'm on WABC in New York, and he was on WOR.
		And we didn't really cross timelines because he retired, but very sad at the passing of an overnight radio legend, certainly.
		And yes, I did have that on last night.
		And note of the passing of Gene Shepard.
		We're talking about secret society.
		Somebody just sent me this.
		Secret society students face life for killing a friend in a wood.
		A member of a college secret society that fed on horror videos and SAS films was convicted of murder yesterday after a court was told that he and an accomplice took a fellow member to a wooded area and stabbed him, burned, and buried his dismembered body.
		Russell Crooks, 17 years of age, described as a dominant member of the Brotherhood, the Brotherhood, a society of four students at Hadlow Agricultural College near Tonbridge, Kent, was lured into a wood near the college at night by Neil Sayers and Graham Wallace, who then murdered him in a method I just described.
		So there you have it, more of a secret society, some of them apparently rather dark in nature.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, secret societies, hurricanes in the Caribbean, and then whatever else you want to talk about.
		It's all up for grabs this morning.
		On our secret society line, you are on the air.
unidentified		Sir.
		Yes.
		I remember the Order of the Eastern Star, which the closest thing I can liken it to is the Woman's Auxiliary of the Masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you have been asking...
		The Order of the Eastern Star.
		Is that correct?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Order of the Eastern Star.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this an all-woman's organization?
unidentified		No, sir.
		No?
		Master Masons can also join.
		You mean male Master Masons?
		I don't know of any other kind, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, exactly.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is, so in other words, the Order of the Eastern Star, then has an upper-level connection or fairly high connection to the Masons.
unidentified		Well, you cannot be an Eastern Star in some states without a blood relative that is a Mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had no idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never heard of it.
unidentified		In the state that I come from, which was New York State, that was the way it was when I joined.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do the order of the Eastern Star members get much of the same information as Masons?
unidentified		No, sir.
		We do not.
		We have our own rituals, our own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they compatible with Masonic tradition at all?
unidentified		I would assume so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you don't know.
unidentified		Well, since I am not built quite properly to be a master mason, I couldn't tell you for certain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there's no way any woman could ever be a mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't allow women?
unidentified		Not at this point in time, not that I know of.
unidentified		There have been rumors that way back in history there were some women that had overheard the secret rituals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps used their wiles to get in a place where they shouldn't be.
unidentified		Well, no, actually, one of the stories is that a woman happened to be, was at, the meeting was held at her house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So she, like, cowered in the kitchen and listened?
unidentified		No, actually, she kept her ear to the living room door, and they initiated her into the order.
unidentified		it was either that or do something drastic because in those days...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, you mean...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, she heard...
unidentified		We're talking about in the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She heard the secrets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, she heard the secrets, whatever they were, and they were so serious that either they would have to initiate her in and make her part of it all or – Oh, I think it's still serious today.
unidentified		They don't think it's quite as stringent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way up there, I think.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Could I explain something to you?
		Well, sure.
		When an Eastern star or a person joins the Eastern Star or the Masons, and I assume it's this way with most secret societies.
		Yes.
		In our societies, we take an obligation, which is basically giving our word, that we'll keep our mouths shut about certain secrets.
		Now, first of all, the Library of Congress has a complete listing of everything that we do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everything?
unidentified		Yeah.
		You can send for it and get it.
		Well, then what kind of secret is that?
		We are required to do this.
		But that doesn't make any sense.
		Most people don't know it's available, though.
		Well, they do now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They do now?
unidentified		Yes, sir, they do.
unidentified		But whether they send for it or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you high enough in the order of the Eastern Star to really be sure that everything is in the Library of Congress.
unidentified		I was told this by my father, who was a 32nd-degree Mason in a shriner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you don't think your dad would.
unidentified		I wouldn't expect my father to lie and he volunteered this information because I asked him the same thing you were asking, you know, how secret is it?
		And he says, really, it's not.
		But we take an obligation, as do whether they call it an oath or an obligation.
		And I assume when you give your word, you mean to keep it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Well, you're asking these gentlemen to break their word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no, I'm just giving them the opportunity.
		And that applies to you as well.
		I mean, if you want to blab away about the Eastern Star stuff, which you just told me is in the Library of Congress anyway, I'd love to hear it.
unidentified		And the gentleman that said there's a good deal of the secrets that have come out in books and that, he's quite correct.
unidentified		Inadvertent or advertently, a lot of books have come out by people that have been disgruntled and have basically blown the whistle, if you will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything, let me ask you this, all right?
		Here's something you can probably answer.
		Is there anything that if we were aware of it regarding the Masons or regarding the highest part of the order of the Eastern Star, it is, that would worry us if we knew about it or concern us?
unidentified		No, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or freak us out.
unidentified		It's the brotherhood of men, the sisterhood of woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I have noticed nothing except the fact that a Mason will go to another Mason's aid quicker than they will other people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		And that is that way with any fraternity or sorority.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you very much.
		I appreciate the call and the information.
		I know I'm a little.
		What's the right word?
		And not fully embracing the preceding call.
		And I'm not saying that I'm doubting everything she said, but I have a feeling that there is more there.
		And that's just me.
		Wildcardline, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hey, Art.
		Hey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I am in New Mexico.
		Okay.
		Just a studier of a lot of these secret societies because living in New Mexico, you get a lot of the government rule and stories being passed around by people who are involved in government.
		As far as the Masons are concerned, there are societies that are above them that have been holding under the secrets of supposedly mankind and the things that have been happening to us for the last 6,000 to 8,000 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, in your studies, do you believe there are organizations that literally know the secret of the origins of mankind?
unidentified		Not only are the secret of the origin, but where they are leading us now.
		I mean, it goes that far.
		The Brotherhood of the Snake or the Brotherhood of the Dragon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Brotherhood of the Snake?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's what I haven't heard of.
unidentified		Yeah, Brotherhood of the Snake or the Dragon, each one of those two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Dragon.
unidentified		They were originally known as the Mysteries or the Brotherhood of the Mysteries or the Secrets of the Mysteries.
unidentified		All right, well, let me try a couple of questions out on you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do they consider the origins of man to be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And follow up, where are we going?
unidentified		I can give you, it's very simple, and I actually stumbled upon this studying Zachariah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zachariah?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've interviewed Zachariah any number of times.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		He has put it all basically together through the cuneiform of the Sumerian writing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is Zachariah a member of one of these?
unidentified		Actually, he is a member of the Jewish society, which is another society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But not connected to the snake or either one of those two at all, no.
unidentified		Now, the Brotherhood of the Snake, the Brotherhood of the Dragon, they are the forefathers of the furthest secret society back.
unidentified		Then below them is the Illuminati.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the Illuminati falls in below the Snake Dragon.
unidentified		Actually, they do, yes.
unidentified		And they are like the servants of the Brotherhood of the Snake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Illuminati are the servants of them?
unidentified		They sure are.
unidentified		And if you go down below that, that's the Knights of the Templar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where does that leave...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And then the Masonic Society comes in place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then Masons.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, then where are we?
unidentified		We are way low.
		Yeah.
		Sheesh.
		Yeah, but where are we going?
		Let me tell you where we're going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
unidentified		the Freemasons, which is basically, they're kind of an offshoot of a Mason.
unidentified		But they are the worker bees, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They are the worker bees.
unidentified		You know, we are just the fun lovers that like to watch all these guys do their thing up there in high government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, then, really, I'm getting what you would expect to get from the Masons or the Sister Organization, the Order of the Eastern Star or whatever.
		They're all saying, look, there are no secrets.
		My dad told me there are no secrets that have not been revealed, blah, blah, blah, blah.
		You would expect to get that, wouldn't you, if what you're saying is true?
unidentified		You expect it, of course, because that's all they're going to get anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, I got you.
unidentified		They're not going to get any of the information.
		I mean, even their fathers and people that have, they've had five, ten generations down the line of the mason.
		They're not going to get the information from the Knights Templar.
		They are just another society that they've got to rely on to keep the interest or to keep the infrastructure of their society alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever talked with anybody from the snake or the dragon?
unidentified		I have.
		As a matter of fact, I have not.
		But I'll tell you, the person, there are two people in this world right now that are in high government that are part of that society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People whose names I would know?
unidentified		You would know them.
		Yes, you would.
		As a matter of fact, I don't like to bring this up because there's so much religious ties to it.
		But Jesus Christ was a member of a society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		He was a member of the Illuminati.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ was a member of the Illuminati?
unidentified		He sure was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't he be a snake or a dragon at least?
unidentified		Because he was what we would consider a don't shoot the messenger.
unidentified		Well, you know, like Paul Revere?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did, though.
		Well, they did.
		They crucified the messenger.
unidentified		Let me tell you some secrets because I'm not a member of society.
unidentified		No one knows who I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lay it up.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Here it is.
		Jesus Christ was sent off by his family and the tribe that he lived in near Portico, which was a Roman Catholic-controlled area of Italy.
		And he was sent off to the Orient to learn about other things like Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism.
		And on his travels and his learnings, he found out that the Romans had taken and destroyed the Alexandria Library.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was this in the early life of Christ before we...
unidentified		Now, of course, you know the fire of the Alexandria Library.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And the Romans took all of the knowledge of the earth, and that included the origins of man.
		And it also included something that people never talk about.
		What?
		The decoding of our current Bible.
		There was one original Bible in the beginning.
		But when God, supposedly God, you know, the gods that were here before, as Zachariah says, those are the gods.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, extraterrestrials, actually, right?
unidentified		Well, you know, whatever you want to call an extraterrestrial.
unidentified		Somebody that's not from this earth, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody who's on a planet that has an atmosphere and life and water and is not connected to any system and revolve around any sun, that would be certainly an extraterrestrial from our point of view.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Now, and let's talk logically now and not far-fetched leap of faith.
		How do we learn?
		We learn from our parents.
		Our parents learn from their parents.
		So I term that genetic learning.
		So genetic learning had to come from somewhere.
		There's ought to be an origination point.
		So if you want to call us an offshoot of an extraterrestrial, that's what we are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then that's one of the great secrets.
unidentified		That's one of the great secrets that was stolen and kept.
unidentified		Now, the secrets are kept right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if we are the descendants of extraterrestrials, as Sitchin would suggest, and you are saying, then who was Jesus Christ?
unidentified		Okay, let's get into the words.
		Jesus of the Christ.
		The Christ, the word Christ, is used as the love or the unity.
		So he was the leader of the love or unity or a non-technologically advanced society, which has been proven over many, many, many times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what about all of the things that Jesus, it is written that Jesus did that a mortal man could not do?
unidentified		You know, I listened to you talk a little bit about Houdini.
unidentified		Last night you talked about Houdini.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that Jesus was nothing but a master magician?
unidentified		No, I can't say that.
unidentified		What I can say is that he was given powers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you said Houdini.
unidentified		Yes, but people, you know, if you saw Houdini perform, and the person that saw him perform goes and tells five of his friends, did he tell them the exact same story that happened?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
unidentified		No.
		So Jesus Christ, or Jesus of the Christ, or Jesus of the unity, the leader of the love, was able to perform many, many things.
		He knew how to save people's lives.
		He knew how to create things with others.
		He had a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's not a trivial thing.
unidentified		No, parting.
unidentified		That is a weather-related thing, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weather-related?
unidentified		That's a weather-related anomaly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which sea lately has parted because of any weather that we know of?
unidentified		Well, I can't really tell you, but the sea was only six inches tall.
unidentified		Well, I wouldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even so.
		Even so.
		I mean, well, I saw that it was bigger than that in the Ten Commandments.
unidentified		You're exactly right.
		I mean, listen, we could argue the semantics of what the Bible says, but what I'm trying to explain to you is just the basic order of who owns the secrets.
		Now, I can tell you, and I'd love to tell all your millions of listeners right now who, and I've been waiting to tell this for I don't know how long.
		Tell it.
		Who owns the secrets of the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's the dragons and the snakes.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		And you know who runs the dragons and the snakes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
unidentified		Okay, you've heard of the G7.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The G7 economic?
unidentified		The G7 are the heads of the G7 nations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You've heard of the Ten Kings in the Bible?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		You can add those people into that category.
		And there are several smaller countries that are actual descendants of Jesus of the Christ family who are also a part of this Illuminati who have the knowledge.
		But I'll tell you where the knowledge is kept.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		The knowledge has been kept with the Roman Catholics this whole time in the Vatican.
unidentified		It's there and will always stay there and will never be penetrated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now that I can believe.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, the logical aspect of this situation is the late Father Malachi Martin told me there are secrets beyond all belief hidden within the Vatican.
unidentified		That's exactly right.
		And that's where it came from, was the Alexandria Library that was taken and destroyed.
		And the Roman Catholics told everybody in the whole world, or I should say the Romans because they weren't Catholic at the time, the Romans told the whole world that in this fight that they had with Egypt, that the mysteries and the knowledge of the world and the knowledge of electricity and plumbing and engineering and everything that they had involved in the situation, and the origins of man, which was the most important part, was destroyed, which is not true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I'm coming up on the top of the air, so I'm going to have to go here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that there's any chance I'll hear from a snake tonight?
unidentified		That's what I'm asking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or a dragon?
unidentified		I'm asking right now, one of your listeners, if you are a snake or a dragon, call in.
unidentified		Call in and let's listen to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Gotcha.
		Thank you very much.
		Thank you.
		You take care.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This should test your memory a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't touch that dial.
unidentified		When Liberty Valence rode to town, the women folk would hide.
		Laid high.
		when Liberty Valence walked around.
		The men would step aside because the point of a gun was the only law that Liberty understood.
		When it came to shooting straight and fair, he was mighty good from out of the East Ranger.
		Life would be five.
		If man is still alive, if woman can survive, they may fall in the year 3535.
		You're going to need to tell the truth, tell no lies.
		Everything you think, do, and say isn't the field you put today.
		In the year 2545, you're going to need to won't need your heart.
		You won't find the thing to choose.
		Nobody wants you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better listen carefully.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All this came from a secret society.
unidentified		Our future laid out for us.
		Your day's got nothing to do.
		Some machine doing that for you In the year 65, 65 Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife You pick your son, pick your daughter too From the bottom of the long black world In the
		end, when it's like a Hindu You've got to come and make it fast.
		Maybe you look around yourself and say, get this town for the judgment day.
		First time callers may reach Art Bell in the Kingdom of Ny at 1-775-727-1222.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Or tear it down and start a kid's home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I rather lean toward the tearing down and starting again part.
		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		We're talking about secret societies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		95-95?
		Oh, I don't think so.
		I'm pretty curious right now about 2,000, and it's almost here.
		By the way, we're working on a replacement for that noise that I'm playing for some stations out there who have to have it.
		So we're working on a silent, stealth replacement for it.
		Now, it'll be a little while, but we're going to get it done.
		We are working hard.
		God, I love secrets.
		I really love secrets.
		So that's what I want to hear tonight.
		Secrets.
		People who are willing to blab.
		Maybe blab and run.
		I don't know.
		Anyway, we'll kind of intersperse that with some regular phone traffic like this.
		Easter the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Hi.
		Masonic Lodge, what do you want to know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everything.
unidentified		Okay, well, first of all, let me start off by saying I am not a Mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, how could you know everything?
unidentified		Well, because in my family, it's more like Hugh is not a Mason than Hugh is.
unidentified		Like, for instance, my uncle was grandmaster over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you're not a Mason, that means you're the black sheep.
unidentified		Yeah, but well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what makes you think that even your own family would tell you anything worth anything?
unidentified		They did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know, for example, they didn't tell you complete BS because you weren't one of them?
unidentified		Because stories that I've compared to with them, with other people that I know that are Masons, all the stories matched.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, give me an example.
unidentified		Okay, well, first of all, to clarify the master mason thing, first you petition a lodge, usually by a friend, you have to be recommended.
		Then they check your references, your background, then you approved, and then you go through a ceremony, and then you're a mason.
		Then you have to go, then somebody is appointed to you to go through what they call your three blue degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when you're a blue Mason, you're hardly anything at all?
unidentified		Well, you have to get your first three degrees to become a master mason.
unidentified		Then you're a master mason, and then you can go on to go through the Scottish Rice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so then Master Mason is not as high as one would think.
unidentified		No, it's quite the very beginning.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that explains a lot then.
unidentified		Yeah, no, being a master mason really is saying nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard of the snakes and the dragons?
unidentified		No, I have not until the previous caller.
		Hmm.
		What else do you want to know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I'm struggling with the concept that everybody in your family is a Mason, but you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		No, let me clarify.
		It's not everybody.
		It's more like, like I said, to quote myself, more like who isn't than who is.
		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so then why not you?
unidentified		Well, I think it's just a bunch of just foolishness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you told your family that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That you think it's foolishness?
unidentified		Yeah, yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And still you live, huh?
unidentified		And still I live, yes.
unidentified		All right, well, I appreciate the call, but I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know if I believe That they would tell him everything.
		If he wasn't part of it, if he didn't hold up his hand or do whatever it is that Masons do when they ceremonially promise not to divulge.
		I don't think I believe that.
		First time caller line, no, no, no, no.
		On Secret Society line, you're on the air.
unidentified		KTX, Reading, California.
		Just kidding, Ark.
		I thought I'd get your heart right up tonight.
		Oh, but I'm with a society that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm with the Society.
unidentified		It's not the Masons.
unidentified		It's an offshoot called the Mystical Order of the Dequ Gerbal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lion sucker.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Mystical Order of the Dequawad Gerbal, my eye.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it for a second.
unidentified		Well, I could tell you some things about the Masons if you want to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dequawed Gerbal.
		Dequawed Gerbal.
		There's no such thing.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, it's a rigorous process to get in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure it is, and I'm sure a lot of your members end up in the hospital, too.
		Goodbye.
		You're out of here.
		Mr. Order, the Declaw Gerbil, my butt.
		That I should have said.
		International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Eric.
unidentified		God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even hit the button.
unidentified		How are you doing?
unidentified		Oh, not too bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Regina, Saskatchewan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where there no doubt are secret societies all over the place.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Canadians don't talk a lot about it, do they?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off up there.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would be confusing otherwise.
unidentified		So there's three that I called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Moving forward from the mystical order of the declawed gerbils.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I was wondering if there's any other people who live in Alberta or Saskatchewan who have seen, been up north and seen the weird things that I've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Oh, around Cold Lake, Alberta.
		Yes.
		Primrose Air Weapons Base.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		These look kind of interesting little lights and stuff happening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in the sky?
unidentified		You betcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm sure that is that the Canadian version of Area 51?
unidentified		Yeah, 51A.
unidentified		51A?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be 51C, probably.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it really is?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think they have back-engineered craft or alien craft or whatever up there?
unidentified		There's got to be something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know that your government and my government are real close.
unidentified		Oh, very much in cahoots.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cahoots, that's the right word.
		So I'm sure we share information at that level.
		I'm sure we do.
		All right, well, we'll throw it out there and see if any other Canadians would like to respond.
		I can't imagine that we would have these things in America, and Canada would be totally unaware.
		We are simply too close in every way, economically, politically to Canada, for there not to be a connection.
		All right, on my secret society line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay, let's get off the subject.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a card subject.
		It's open lines.
		Only on that one line, is it?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a question for you.
unidentified		When are you going to be coming to Phoenix, Arizona for your new book signing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am going to do only one book signing, only one, for the new book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it has got to go to the long-promised New York City.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Yeah, really.
		I mean, I've been promising New York City now for, I mean, years.
		So it's got to go to New York City.
unidentified		And when is this new book going to be coming out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Soon, sir.
		Soon.
		Do you have a date?
		Check amazon.com.
		Amazon.com.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Okay.
		And one more thing.
		Have you heard anything from any of your callers calling in about seeing any green lights in the skies in Phoenix?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like fireballs?
unidentified		Yeah, they're more like fireballs.
unidentified		I've seen them twice already, like coming home from work at 3 o'clock in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we know what they are.
unidentified		What are they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Re-entering rocket boosters from Russia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every single one of them, yes.
unidentified		Is that right?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what the government says.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Re-entering rocket boosters from Russia.
unidentified		Okay, then.
		Okay.
		I think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Thank you very much for the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call Colonel Haynes.
		He'll confirm that for me.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, Art Bell.
		Hi.
		Long time no talk.
		Really?
		Yeah.
		How long?
		Probably last time you opened up a secret agent line.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really a long time.
unidentified		A long time.
		Back before you took your hiatus.
		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I am now talking tonight about secret orders, secret societies, dragons, snakes, masons, Illuminati.
unidentified		Let's go back to that guy that you talked to earlier.
		He was talking about Jesus Christ was, oh, how did he put it?
		Part of the Illuminati?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he said that.
		And that Christ was not, as we understand, Son of God.
		He didn't part the seeds and do all the other things described in the Bible.
		He didn't do that.
unidentified		No, he didn't do any of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You agree with that?
unidentified		No, I don't agree with him, but no, Christ didn't do any of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you don't agree with him specifically, but you agree with him with regard to Christ?
unidentified		Not exactly.
		Let me give you a little background.
		I was brought up as a missionary kid.
		My parents were Southern Baptist missionaries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happened to you?
unidentified		Huh?
unidentified		Let's just say I was awakened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Awakened?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like the stuff under the surface of Mars or what?
unidentified		No, a little bit deeper than that.
unidentified		Try some form of the United States government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mind control.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Revelation.
		In other words, government agents took you aside and said, come with us, son.
		We're going to tell you some things.
unidentified		I got very, very lucky.
unidentified		I was doing research on a book, and I got very, very lucky, and I traded out some information for the book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You traded with an agent of the U.S. government?
unidentified		I traded with someone who knew enough information that I did check up on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Someone who was also a missionary kid in Japan, worked for NSC.
		Yes.
		I was on the National Security Council, so I dropped a two code words on him, and he says, I don't know who the hell you're dealing with, but you better stay low.
		Otherwise, you're going to end up dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, speaking of dead, do you hear those clicks?
unidentified		I hear those clicks.
unidentified		I have another point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't stay online that long if I were you.
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not in view of what I'm hearing here.
unidentified		I wouldn't worry about that.
unidentified		If they want to kill me, they would have already killed me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, fine, go right ahead.
unidentified		But going back to Jesus for a second, Jesus was nothing but the greatest con artist on the face of the planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Con artist, huh?
unidentified		Nothing but the greatest con artist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So how is it he parted the sea?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I didn't ask after that.
		I asked a simple point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in other words, you accepted that as an answer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jesus was nothing but the greatest con artist on the face of the planet.
unidentified		I asked a very, very simple one.
		I want to know the whole truth, nothing but the truth.
		They said you're never going to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he'll help you as part of your membership in the NSC.
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he told you that, and you just bought it out of him.
unidentified		No, no, he didn't tell me.
		I just had a case.
		I had to check with him.
		I asked for some terms that someone might know who worked with on the NSC, and they dropped two terms on me.
		And I mentioned them once before.
		And I emailed to you.
		And I asked you if you'd heard about him, and you didn't reply.
		No.
		I figured you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because I haven't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Until really now.
unidentified		And he says, do not dig.
		Do not pass go.
		Do not collect $200.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do not dig.
unidentified		He says, do not dig.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's that supposed to mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do not dig where?
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
		He just said, do not dig.
		He said, if they warn you, did I die?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably what he really said was, he probably really said, call before you dig.
unidentified		No, he said, do not dig in capital letters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, all right.
		I appreciate the information, but I don't know what that means.
		Do not dig.
		We're digging all the time.
		Do not dig where?
		For what?
		Do not dig for information or do not dig into the ground at some specific location.
		On my secret society line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, this is Josh in Omaha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Josh.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I just had a quick comment and a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, this line is only for people in secret societies.
unidentified		Well, I, yeah, the comment kind of has to do with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, are you or are you not in a secret society?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
unidentified		I am aware of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Josh, I got to go.
		You call me on another line.
		All right, man.
		That first time caller line, area code 775-727-1222 is only for society members.
		On my secret society line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		My grandparents years ago warned me about Master Masons.
		I remember as a kid, my grandmother said a Master Mason would make him go blind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you think that I'm going to let you go any further with this one after the gerbil thing, you're out of your mind.
unidentified		I'm a different guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure you are.
		Same story.
		The wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Goodbye.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Arn.
unidentified		How are you doing this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm all right.
unidentified		Listen, my name is Bill and I'm calling you from Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Every time you start a show, it seems like there's always discussion about all the diseases and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what's in the news.
unidentified		Right.
		Okay.
		Recently, I got an invention, and I'm trying to get it pursued further.
		I got the patent on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does this invention cure disease?
unidentified		No, but it helps prevent them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It helps prevent disease.
unidentified		Right.
		Okay.
		What it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way?
unidentified		Well, I invented a dripless toilet brush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A dripless toilet brush?
unidentified		Right.
		It wrings the water back off into the toilet.
		Uh-huh.
		And I'm trying to find somebody to help back my invention so I can take 10% and put them back into diseases.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think your dripless toilet brush is worth?
unidentified		Well, I don't.
unidentified		It would manufacture out pretty cheap.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, I mean, mass-marketed to the millions who are clamoring for a dripless toilet brush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, you're trying to tempt an investor here, right?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		So, what do you figure is in it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Millions?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
		I've got a real good design on it.
		Do you?
		Yes.
		In fact, like I said, I'm the one that originally invented it, so it's a real good design.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I certainly want one, but I don't...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just don't have any advice to give you.
unidentified		Listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All I can say is stay tuned.
unidentified		Do you want no secrets?
		Do you promise not to tell?
		Go all closer.
		Let me whisper in your ear.
		Say the words you want to hear.
		I'm in love with you.
		Listen.
		Do you want to know a secret?
		Do you want to know a secret?
		Do you want to know a secret?
		Do you want to know a secret?
		Want to take a ride?
		Call Art Bell from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
		First-time callers may reach ARD at 1-775-727-1222.
		The wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
		And to call ART on the toll-free international line, call your AT ⁇ T operator and have them dial 800-893-0903.
		This is Coaster Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nye.
		That's the Kingdom of Nye and why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Nye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		We're talking about secret societies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And anything else you want to talk about this night?
unidentified		I'm setting up, baby, peace.
		There's no need to do.
		Hit me at the hour of your heart.
		I'm in a street of contemporary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're put another way.
		We're rocking into the night in totally uncharted waters.
		We will be right back.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Illuminati, Masons, Eastern Star people, dragons, snakes.
		And I'm not going to add those others.
		We await your call on my secret society line.
		You're on here.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		I'm a 32nd degree Mason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just one degree short of knowing the real stuff, huh?
unidentified		Exactly right.
		Well, you had some good stuff on the first three degrees.
		But after that, it was kind of baloney.
		The next 29 degrees you can get to in one of two ways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Baloney, did you say?
unidentified		Well, yeah, they didn't have it quite right.
		Once you're a master mason, you can petition for the next degrees.
		You can do that either through the York Rite or through the Scottish Rite.
		And once you've completed those degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And out of curiosity, what do you think gets you accepted to these higher levels?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Scottish Rite, for example?
unidentified		Pay your dues.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, there's got to be more than that.
unidentified		Well, no, it's not really too much more than that.
unidentified		You have a petition you fill out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can rise in the Catholic Church the same way.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Be a Mormon rise the same way.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Well, there's nothing special, I don't think, about the Masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That causes me great suspicion.
unidentified		Once you're at the 32nd degree, then the shrine is actually something different.
		You have to be a 32nd degree Mason to join the shrine.
		And that's kind of like the fun part of Masonry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's fun about it?
unidentified		Oh, you know, whatever you like to do, playing in a band, ride motorcycles in parades, ride horses, fly airplanes.
unidentified		They have different organizations that do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just all that cutesy stuff, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, but they also do some not-so-cutesy stuff, like they were the first guys to come up with burn hospitals for children.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have heard that they do good deeds of this kind, yes.
unidentified		And those hospitals are open to anybody who's believing without any, you know, they don't have to pay.
unidentified		They don't have to be masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying there's nothing dark, nothing negative, nothing secret and all the rest of it?
unidentified		Well, there's certainly stuff that's secret.
		I wouldn't say it's dark.
		To be a Mason, you have to possess a belief in a higher being, in a supreme being.
		And in each country, they use...
		Sure.
		In the U.S., they would use primarily, it would be the Bible, would be the book they would use in their ritual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then they might as well be a religion.
unidentified		I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the way you describe it.
unidentified		Well, in times past, you know, they provided a fair amount of relief when that wasn't too organized in the country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think you're going to get to be a 33rd degree?
unidentified		Probably not, though.
		That's an honorary degree.
		Most of the people who get to 33rd were presidents or astronauts or did a lot of work for the craft, for the organization.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see.
		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		There you are.
		Presidents or astronauts or members of the G7 or people like that.
		Now, I'm sorry, but I just really don't buy into the fact that there are not special secrets for special degrees.
		And at 33, it begins to occur.
		It doesn't occur.
		Until we're told, and it's proven to us otherwise.
		It is only natural to be suspicious.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello, turn your radio off first.
		It is only natural to be suspected.
		No, don't change the station.
		Just turn it off.
		There you go.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I am a longtime Eastern Star person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another Easter Order of the Eastern Star person.
unidentified		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Proud of it.
		And my mother joined the Eastern Star in 1922 and kept her membership constantly until her death in 1991.
		Also was very proud of the order.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do Eastern Star folk do?
unidentified		Well, it is rather a social organization.
		We have very close ties to the Masonic Order of the people who we are related to who are Masons.
		But we're no part of the Masonic Order itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that now I don't mean to demean the Eastern Star in any way, but do you think that the Order of the Eastern Star was created by the Masons to keep your sex out of Masonic lodges?
unidentified		It's possible, but Masons also join the Eastern Star.
unidentified		The main person, of course, is a woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But they're pretty much just token Masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's mostly women, right?
unidentified		Mostly women, yes.
unidentified		And we've been accused of being a cult.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
unidentified		We are not.
		We encourage everybody to attend the church of their own religion.
		We do have five degrees or heroines of our order who are taken directly from the Bible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, though, a loose definition of a cult might include you because you have rituals, you have specific beliefs, you are not a gigantic.
		To me, a cult is just like a small religion.
		It's not a big religion.
		When you're a small religion or organization, you're always accused of being a cult.
		If you get big enough, then you become mainstream and you're okay.
unidentified		Well, the reason I don't feel that I'm a cult is because we do not worship.
unidentified		We do have heroines of our order like Ruth and Kepta's daughter, Esther, Queen Esther.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Queen Esther.
unidentified		Martha.
		And we have one that I think they could have done a little bit better job on who represents the mother.
		We represent mothers, sisters, widows, wives of Master Masons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of Master Masons.
unidentified		And the only secrets we have, we have a ritual that's available for anybody in the world to read.
unidentified		There are a few lines in there that have a reserved password so that we can identify ourselves to one another should we be in need.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, a helping hand with the right words.
unidentified		Right.
		And the gentleman before me on there about the Scottish light, I thought he took it very lightly.
		He failed to mention that you're supposed to have good moral character even.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was asking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought there would be some qualification other than just paying your dues.
unidentified		You certainly is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought so.
		All right, well, I appreciate the clarification.
		Thank you.
unidentified		And also, one more thing.
		He kind of fluffed off the first D degrees.
		The Blue Lodge is the basis, the foundation of everything.
		And like all organizations these days, the average age of our members, Masons, Army Streets, are getting quite old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there some danger, you think, that it'll all die out as the older members pass away?
unidentified		Well, we are losing chapters right and left.
		And I'm approaching my 80th birthday.
		And so I am not as active as I used to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly appreciate your call, ma'am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		Thank you, and I love your program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		All right.
		Well, there you have it.
		80 years of age, huh?
		And a member of the Eastern Star.
		Now, I wonder if Masons would admit that the Order of the Eastern Star was created so that the women wouldn't try to knock down the doors of the lodge.
		Now, she alluded, that certainly was a possibility.
		All right.
		On our Secret Society line, you're on the air.
		Hello, Lord.
		Yes.
unidentified		I don't know if I should necessarily give my name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's reserve your name and ask you if you're a member of a secret society.
		Yes, I am.
		Okay.
		Well, that admits you here, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'm calling a reference to the person who was talking about the Society of the Snake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And the Society of the Dragon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And there is some information there that was completely distorted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Distorted?
unidentified		The Society of the Snake, actually the Society of the Serpent, is from actually ancient Babylonia and ancient Samaria.
unidentified		It is in close ties with Roman Catholicism, but has nothing to do with the Masons or any other organization.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The way he painted the snakes and the dragons was that they were at the very top, or very near the top, and that Illuminati and Masons and a lot of others are below them and do their bidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think that was inaccurate?
unidentified		Definitely.
unidentified		Actually, the purpose of those organizations, I can speak for the Society of the Serpent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you can.
unidentified		But I can't speak for the Society of the Dragon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a member of the Society of the Serpent?
unidentified		No, I am not.
		I'm a member of an organization that's tied to them called the Chiru.
		And this organization, the Society of the Serpent, are supposed to be individuals that protect the secrets of the church.
		Now, there is some accuracy in terms of coding in terms of the Bible and religion and some books that have not been released to the public that are locked away in the Vatican.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I've heard, yes.
		What is the Chiru to the dragons?
		In other words, what is the relationship?
unidentified		The Chiru Is actually an organization of people who are trained to defend in times that the church becomes, say, attacked by, I don't know, forces of evil, I guess you would say.
unidentified		It incorporates concepts of astral projection as well as, you know, mixed with the combative arts, martial arts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was going to say, are we talking about spiritual warfare or physical warfare?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And apparently both.
unidentified		Yeah, they actually mixed the two.
unidentified		Actually, what they are trained to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So let's set up a scenario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's say that there was an individual out there that the dragons regarded as an eminent threat to the Vatican secrets.
unidentified		What would the Chiru do?
unidentified		The Chiru are actually supposed to locate the people and assassinate them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lights out, huh?
unidentified		And that's their ultimate goal is to protect the Church, the Holy Father.
		And I mean, this is at least as much as I know.
		I'm not at the most advanced levels.
		Right.
		But their ultimate goal is to protect the Church and the Holy Father from, believe it or not, the Antichrist.
		And that time is supposed to be the ultimate battle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		While we're on the subject, there are a lot of people who think the Antichrist now lives on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a view of that?
unidentified		Not at this time.
		I mean, I have no view.
		I mean, there are certain signs we're there to watch for, but in terms of what I've seen, I mean, I've heard...
		Well, supposedly.
		As I said, I'm not at the most advanced level, so my level of knowledge is limited.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, generals rarely fight the wars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They say, you know, they direct wars that are fought by people at lower levels.
unidentified		Mine started out in my early teens, and my training has extended for 15 to 16 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Both physical and psychic.
unidentified		Well, primarily the physical, but the philosophical comes along with it.
unidentified		You see, so you then enhances the, I guess you would say, psychic ability.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then mainly you're a grunt or a ground troop or an assassin or a general assassin.
unidentified		I'm sure you've heard the expression before, a need-to-know basis.
		Yes.
		My Sabu Nim, or my teacher through this, is now in another part of the world.
		And then I had another instructor along the way that carried me further.
		But this is just kind of the organization, the way it sets is you only know your certain portion, another person knows their certain portion.
		And then at the time, when times are right, you're called together, and then the information is shared.
		But this is a little interesting.
		I can't believe I'm actually talking about this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you liable to get in trouble?
unidentified		It could be, but I have no idea.
		It's been a long time since I've been in contact with...
		No, no.
		That's the philosophy behind it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I of course appreciate your calling, and you really warranty to me this is the truth.
unidentified		Pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said you warranty to me this is the truth, what you're saying.
unidentified		As far as I know it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good luck to you.
unidentified		Why, thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Can you imagine that?
		Somebody who would be an assassin if ordered to do so and trained physically to do that.
		Do you believe this kind of thing goes on?
unidentified		Huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I suspect it does.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		It's Terry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Terry.
unidentified		I'm calling from Sherman Oaks, California.
		Okay.
		And we felt the earthquake here as well the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was a doozer.
unidentified		Nothing like the Northridge quake, but I'm just due south of that.
unidentified		But yeah, we felt it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you turn your radio off?
unidentified		Oh, I sure will.
		Hold on.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll hold while you do that.
		This is, please, folks, the minute you get on the air, since we don't screen calls, you've got to turn your radio off.
		That's imperative.
unidentified		How's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
unidentified		Great.
unidentified		Speaking of secret societies, I think people have been calling to find out whether you were going to have David Icon again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't rule it out.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Have you read the latest page?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't rule it in.
		Yeah, I've heard.
		I know a lot about David.
unidentified		Yeah, and about the reptiles and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Pretty out there stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, I do out there stuff.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		Anyway, I'm glad you fared well with the Quake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that I fared well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right?
unidentified		I survived it, but it changed my outlook on life a little bit in that Peremp is now a zone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, after all, I thought this was a relatively safe place.
		I had never felt an earthquake in all the years.
		That's a lot of years that I've lived here.
unidentified		And now all of a sudden, it's like we're not safe anymore.
unidentified		You said you felt them in Okinawa in Japan, but didn't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		None.
unidentified		No physical damage, though, to the property or to the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, pictures canted on the wall, stuff jiggling along shelves.
		None of it fell, actually, fortunately.
		But I can't even begin to describe to you the strength of this quake and the length of this quake.
		It was horrible where I Live.
		And if you look at a map, that's what people should do.
		A lot of people don't know where I live.
		65 miles west of Las Vegas.
		And if you look at where the quake was, you will understand why we got it the way we did.
unidentified		Which is why?
unidentified		Because what you were directly in its line or in the waves?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot closer to it.
		In other words, it scared the you know what out of people in Vegas, and we are 65 miles west of there and eight miles from the California border.
		And it occurred in the California desert, the high desert.
unidentified		Right.
		Thank God for that.
		Well, I mean, maybe not for you, but for L.A. The Sherman, you know, the Northridge quake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		We had a water heater that blew up in our laundry room.
unidentified		And it was the most violent thing I think I've ever experienced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		During the Northwood Ridge quake?
unidentified		Yes, in 94.
unidentified		Yeah, and three streets over, almost every building was collapsed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see, that's even worse.
		You just don't ever feel the same about things, do you?
		No, you don't.
unidentified		I mean, they green-tagged our building, and two buildings down got a red tag.
		It was demolished.
		So you just, you know, something's watching out, you hope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something must be watching over us, sir.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we break right here.
unidentified		Secret societies and open lives all night long.
		This is coast to coast A.M. She's got something to move my soul.
		And she knows I love you, love her.
		But she lets me down every time.
		Can't make her mind.
		She's no one but night with me.
		She'll be so inviting.
		I want it all for myself Oh, my God Take my eyes Take the truth of my mind Oh, my God We'll be right back.
		I'm not too sure.
		For your life.
		I'll bring you a diamond ring when things rise to your door.
		For your life.
		Just fill you with delight.
		I'll give you a diamond stride.
		So the best I will excite.
		I'll make you dream of me at night.
		For your life.
		For your life.
		For your love.
		Want to take a ride?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is.
		Good morning, everybody.
		It's great to be here.
		We're talking about secret societies and whatever else you want to talk about.
		Open lines, and we may well do exactly the same thing.
		Well, not exactly the same thing.
		Tomorrow night in the first hour, we are going to have Linda Molten Howe here.
		And I'm sure you're aware, somebody has poisoned, it would appear, about 20,000 endangered birds.
		It's the damnedest story you've ever heard.
		She's got the lowdown on it tomorrow night, the first hour.
		after that who knows Chances of quitting actually would improve if I were strapped to a chair and fed intravenously.
		First time call our line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Is this art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This actually is my secret society line, you know.
unidentified		Well, how about this?
unidentified		I've been a member of the Solar Temple.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of the, I beg your pardon?
unidentified		The Solar Temple.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Solar as in sun?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Remember the Templars that in 1995 were found supposedly committing supposedly they committed suicide in France.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, and then in America.
unidentified		And Switzerland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were a member?
unidentified		I was a member of the Solar Temple, but thank God I wasn't there at that time.
unidentified		I was living in San Jose, California, and sort of got involved with the Solar Temple, flew to Canada about an hour out of Montreal, actually picked up at the airport by some people and taken to an incredible house outside of Montreal and spent ten days with them with Luc Jouvet, which was a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What compelled you to become interested in an approach the solar temple?
unidentified		I was invited to attend a presentation about the Templars at actually a Unity Church in San Jose.
		And, you know, they said they were an organization, you know, if you go all the way back to medieval times, we know who the Templars were.
		But they're saying that the Templars, there have been resurgences of Templar activity over the centuries and that this Templar organization was an organization that would be helping people on earth to kind of transform their lives, getting ready for the new millennium.
		In other words, doing good work, you know, good work for the people and helping people kind of change their lives and do good things.
		It was very kind of an interesting ten days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that was a front, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that was a front.
unidentified		Well, apparently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you went to Montreal, did you get any hint of what lay beyond?
unidentified		No.
		I mean, the they presented themselves as, you know, a very, very good organization.
		You know, I never got anything of this doomsday called nothing.
		There was none of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's why, when it comes to some of these other organizations that claim to be doing nothing but good, I won't name any, I'm frankly a little suspicious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we all know what happened with the Solar Temple people.
unidentified		Oh, my God, absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, and there was a front of doing good and helping people prepare for the new millennium, but behind it all, there was something very different.
unidentified		Sure, and they did, one thing that I found very strange was that I found out that shortly before all these suicides, which I find it hard to believe people killed themselves by tying their hands behind their backs and putting paper or plastic bags over their heads.
		Some of them died supposedly of gunshot wounds, poisoning, whatever.
		But I heard that $82 million was transferred out of their coffers to Australia right before this whole thing happened, which I thought was a little weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, because, you know, in medieval times, the Templars were the bankers.
		And this, you know, Philip the Fair and this, whatever the Pope was at the time, the Templars fell in disfavor with them.
		And so they started all these rumors about the Templars being homosexuals and occult and Satan worshipers.
		And so they started burning them at the stake.
		And just to give you an idea of an odd thing, one of the first Templars was Jacques D. Millay.
		And in the Masonic Order, the young men, the organization of young men in the Masonic Order is the D. Millay.
		And another thing, in the Masonic Order, one of the highest degrees is the Templar degree.
		And did you know that you remember the Jack the Ripper killings?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Well, there have been talk back in history that possibly Jack the Ripper was a Mason because I read that at the beginning of the program.
		One of the rituals, you know, one of the rituals in the Masonic Order was that disemboweling, which is kind of, you know, not a real fun thing to do.
		But anyway, I also, you know, I've also been a Rosicrucian for many years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really have, you're a joiner, huh?
unidentified		Well, you know, I mean, if you're a seeker of higher consciousness, which is when you live in California, right now I'm in New Mexico, but, you know, I have been doing a lot of seeking and meditation.
		And I actually, and I know you're going to think this is very strange, but you've heard of people channeling, right?
		Oh, yes.
		I know.
		And I never ever thought that I would ever do anything like that, or half the time I didn't believe when I heard people say they were channelers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I want to say it again, because I always get clobbered for this.
		I'm suspicious of channeling.
		And the only reason is because it's so easily faked.
		That doesn't mean that it's not real, that things are not channeled.
		But to me, there's a lot of room for fraud.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
unidentified		Well, a few years ago, and this is kind of a funny story, I was kind of stressed out, and I decided to sort of take a jacuzzi and relax and meditate.
unidentified		And I went into a deep meditation, and I started hearing text in my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Text.
unidentified		Text.
		You know, it's like words coming out.
		And I started talking out loud, and it really freaked me out.
		And I thought, wow, but it was really good, what I was thinking, you know, what was coming out.
		And so I got out of the bathtub.
		Of course, I dried off and got dressed, and sat down in front of the computer.
		And what came out was called A Message from Mother Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so how long was it?
unidentified		It's about, well, since that time I've gotten more, but this one particular message from Mother Earth is one page.
unidentified		And I'd really like to read it to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send it to me.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		And include your phone number.
		Okay.
unidentified		And I'm writing a book called Handbook for Humanity, which I've been getting, it's sort of, I guess you could say it's like if God said, you know, you guys have been hanging out there for a long time, you've messed up a little bit, maybe I should have given you a little guidebook.
		Here it is.
		So that's kind of what it is.
		And maybe I'll just fax you the first few chapters of that, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, don't do that by fax.
		That's too many.
		My machine will throw up after three pages and not print it out.
unidentified		Well, a message from Mother Earth is only one page, so I could fax it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you would include your phone number with that.
unidentified		Okay, and your fax number is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Area code 775.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		727.
unidentified		727.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		8499.
unidentified		8499.
		All right.
		Yeah, and in my travels, I've met a lot of interesting people like Patrick Flanagan.
		Uh-huh.
		You know who Patrick Flanagan is?
		I do, yes.
		He's spent some time at my house, and oh, I know Ingo Swan.
		Do you know Ingo Swan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have not yet met Ingo, nor have I interviewed him, and I should.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's in Las Vegas.
unidentified		Yeah, he was in Manhattan, so he's now in Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, or he was in Las Vegas and went to Manhattan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure where he is right now.
unidentified		Well, the last I talked to him a few months ago, he was in Manhattan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He is considered the father of remote viewing.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		And he sent me a copy of his book, which is called Penetration, and it's about when he remote viewed the dark side of the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll look forward to the facts.
unidentified		It's an incredible, incredible book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And it could ruin his reputation, but you should interview him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will proceed.
unidentified		Okay, I'm so I'll.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me, if you have any contact information for Ingo Swan, pass it on.
unidentified		We'll do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Walcarvon, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hey, Art.
		Hey, how's it going, man?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not bad?
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		I want to expand a little bit about the gentleman earlier concerning the secret societies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which ones?
unidentified		Well, I've got some more societies for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jason's Society of the Order of the Quest, and I can tie him in, too.
unidentified		Slow down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was that the Jason Society?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the Order of what?
unidentified		The Order of the Quest?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Order of the Quest.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And the Quest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like a video game.
unidentified		It does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the Order of the Quest, out of curiosity?
unidentified		The Order of the Quest and the Jason Society are the new societies that were developed between the heads of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Fort Romani.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CFR.
unidentified		These are the people that are leading the government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what Order of the Quest, and Jason, what are the goals of these organizations?
unidentified		They are leading us into the new Armageddon.
unidentified		They're leading us into an artificial Armageddon, the New World Order, the distrust of the people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So their goal is to initiate Armageddon?
unidentified		They're doing it right now, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would they want to bring on Armageddon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a central question.
unidentified		Yeah, let me help you there.
		The Freemason, the 33rd degree Freemason.
		Yes.
		There's a split up to two.
		There's a 33-degree mason that doesn't have any idea what's going on.
		And then there's a 33-degree mason that moves on to the Knights Templar that moves forward to help with the...
		Oh.
		Huh.
		That moves forward to try to help with the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're going to call up, I guarantee, and they're going to say this is so much crap.
		Oh, I know.
		I know that there are not secrets.
		And I've been in doubt of that and suspecting the kind of thing you're talking about right now.
		So you're saying even within the 33rd degree Mason, there is a split?
unidentified		There is a split, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But why, going back to my first question, why would they want to bring on Armageddon?
unidentified		Well, because there has to be an order, okay, the light, okay, the Lucifer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		The Illuminati.
		That was named after the Lucifer.
		The Luciferian Illuminati are the direct predecessor of the Knights Templar.
		They are in charge of bringing this light into our world.
		The light is another explosion of another star.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		You had me for a minute.
		Now you're losing me.
		The Luciferian light, I understand, that they would bring Lucifer to reign on Earth, roughly, right?
unidentified		To bring a full-time light.
		To where our sun is shining now, there would be another star that would be shining, and we would have full-time light.
		This has nothing to do with religion.
		It has to do with a new world order, a controlling of this earth.
		I can tell you the people that are involved that are doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People like George Bush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, George Bush.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		George Bush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now his son seems unstoppable.
unidentified		Well, look at all the things they're bringing up against him.
unidentified		He's still going to be unstlappable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's true.
		I mean, Elizabeth Dole just dropped out today.
		I mean, it's obviously going to be Bush Gore.
unidentified		Yes, and I'll tell you this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be the most boring damn election we've ever had.
unidentified		There is.
		You're exactly right.
		But Gore is involved.
		I mean, there's so many people that are involved in this deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have held the view for a long time, and if it turns out to be Bush Gore, I honestly hold the view that there's not two cents worth of difference in the way they will govern.
unidentified		They can't do anything.
		They're not in control.
		They're just a fantastic figurehead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're able to communicate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I actually don't doubt that.
unidentified		Are you there?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody's on your line.
unidentified		No, no, I had to change my phone line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you're in mortal danger.
unidentified		No, no, I'm in a scrambler.
unidentified		I know better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're on a scrambler, and then, of course, you're on 500 radio stations nationwide, too.
unidentified		Well, that's okay.
unidentified		I want to get this information out to the people that need to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I understand.
unidentified		But as far as the societies are concerned, you know why the societies were created?
unidentified		The societies were created because the people that were in charge and the gentleman that was talking about the Chiru.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		The serpent guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You understand?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You agree there is a Chiru?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And he would have already, it sounds like he's been discommunicated from that group because he would have already been involved and higher up and would have never called in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then how could he know what he knew?
unidentified		Well, he knows that the Chiru is definitely a society or a smaller society that is put in place to protect the Vatican and its knowledge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		The serpent and the snake are two different societies.
unidentified		The snake, yes, did originate from the Sumerian Babylonian times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The chiru is a subset of the serpent, right?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or an action arm of the serpent.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Now you've heard of, or we used to watch Shogun and all these masters of the martial arts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, that's been around for many, many, many millennium.
		Those are some of the things that they do teach to protect the knowledge.
		That's for sure.
		Spiritual and physical.
		Being able to magically be in one place fighting and then move to another ability.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I am at the bottom of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you hold on?
unidentified		I would love to talk more.
unidentified		I need to tell you some more things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we need that time to trace this call, so please don't do that.
		Stay right there, Okay.
		All right.
unidentified		I'm kind of hung up on this song, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And this instrument, whatever it is.
unidentified		Guess there's no use in hanging around.
		Guess I'll get thrust into the town.
		I'll find some crowded avenue.
		Though it will be empty without you.
		Can't get used to losing you, no matter what I try to do.
		Gonna live my whole life through loving you.
		Call up some girl I used to know.
		After I heard her say no, I couldn't think of anything to say.
		Oh, yeah.
		Thought I wasn't looking for, and then you moved in next door, Pretty Blue Eyes, Pretty Blue Eyes.
		All the guys from the neighborhood, anybody know who's singing this?
		It's a trick question now.
		I saw you from my window.
		My heart seems to be.
		Gonna sit by yourself.
		So that I can be pretty blue eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The answer is he's the same guy who sang the song Going Into the Break.
unidentified		Same guy.
		You have it?
		You have it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Andy Williams.
unidentified		Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye on the wildcard line at 1-775-727-1295.
		That's 1-775-727-1295.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		We're discussing secret societies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some of them pretty rough and tough and tumble, and that's one of the ones we're talking about right now.
		Get a pen and a pencil ready for what I'm about to tell you.
		And here we go again.
		You're back on the air, sir.
		Thank you for waiting, and we've got your number now and your address, as well as your social security number and a couple of scars there on your body, too.
unidentified		How did you know that?
unidentified		You're good, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		Getting back to the serious side here.
		So this really is, this Giru is a real thing.
unidentified		It is.
		And I don't want to, actually, to be honest with you, I don't want to go back to early times.
		I mean, it's a lot of fun going to looking at where all the secret societies originated from.
		But the most important part is the now day.
		People that live in, I mean, let me go over the list.
		Just in case for all your listeners, if you've ever been, I heard the lady that was talking to you earlier about her encounters.
		Be careful with these people because they've got great fronts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Talking about the solar temple.
unidentified		I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
		I did speak about the Order of the Quest and the Jason Society.
		Now, those two, you probably won't be able to get into.
		Anybody, nobody really goes into those because those are people that are heads of state that really make all the decisions for this New World Order turnaround.
		But the Roshanaya and the Kabbalah, the Knights Templar, the Knights of Malta, which is exactly what George Bush is a member of, the Knights of Columbus, the Jesuits, the Masons, the ancient and mystical order of the Rosicruci, which is actually the Rosicrucians, the Illuminati, the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, some executive members of the Council on Foreign Relations, and there's another society that's called the Group that nobody's probably ever heard of.
		The Group, the Group.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I never have heard of the Group.
unidentified		Have you ever seen, well, I'm not going to go into that.
		You might really be able to find me then.
		Brotherhood of the Dragon, the Rosicrucians, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Trilateral Commission, which everybody's ever heard of.
		The Bilderberg Group, which was originally started out this socialist totalitarianism that they're trying to get to.
		The Open Friendly Secret Society, which is the Vatican, the Russell Trust.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to read you something and see if you agree with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I'm going to read to you is from the BBC News, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And another media organization.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but October 2nd, BBC News.
		The headline is Death to the New World Order.
		The conspiracy theory about the New World Order is not new, but it is one that everyone is talking about and taking seriously as we draw closer to the year 2000.
		A growing number of Americans are so convinced that the New World Order is about to take power that they are making plans to fight back, stockpiling foods, weapons, ammunition.
		Major Boyd is a trooper in the New Mexico militia, an armed unit of volunteers, farmers, salesmen, former police officers who are preparing to take the New World Order on.
		There are 19 million armed American Patriots, it says here, this is a BBC ready to take their country back.
unidentified		I love the BBC.
		Good luck.
		It won't happen.
		I'm glad for them, but it's just a great sensationalized news story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're really saying the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're just saying there's no chance.
unidentified		There really isn't a chance.
		They've already got a foothold on it.
		It's not going to happen.
		But I will say this.
		It's going to happen.
		It won't happen overnight.
		It's happening on a day-to-day Basis.
		You just can't see it happen because they're very well organized.
		Now, let me explain why.
		Our world, and you will see this, and so will your listeners, because it's very logical.
		Our world, in terms of our music, our language, our mathematics, our computers, everything is done on numerals.
		Everything is number-based.
		Yep.
		now the Vatican is in control of the largest computer in the world and in that computer Where do you think the CIA is originally organized?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Vatican?
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I should have known.
unidentified		Anyway, that computer controls not only the population of our earth and the population of the people of the first, second, and third worlds, but it also controls the finance, insurance, weather-related accidents, anything that has to do with monetary or binary codes.
		Those two things are the most important part of the way that they are going about our destruction.
		Now, I don't mean a destruction of the people overall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like a computer even beyond the Cray?
unidentified		Oh, well, I would call it, you remember the HAL 9000?
		Oh, yeah.
		This would be the Cray 9000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or the Pope Plus.
unidentified		Exactly.
		But what their goal is, is totalitarian socialism.
		And it's very simple.
		It just means that the people that are in charge of this earth right now, the 10 heads, the G7 nations, they don't trust anybody.
		They don't trust anybody to lead them, to destroy us.
		In other words, the little wars that we fight with Muammar Gaddafi and the little heads and the guy that our government put into power originally a long time ago over there in Iraq.
		I don't even want to say his name because it just makes me sick.
		They will not even destroy Iraq.
		They won't go in to kill because there are secret relics.
		There are things there that they cannot destroy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do believe that.
		Well, Zachariah talks about it.
		Well, no, I do believe it.
		I do believe it.
		Iraq is simply absolutely full of that kind of thing.
unidentified		Oh, well, it's completely off limits because that's where Babylonia and Sumerian was originally, where they were originally started up.
		But I do want to talk to the listeners just for a second about the societies because it's most important to them.
		You watch the X-Files.
		I mean, everybody watches the X-Files that listen to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, I'm probably going to have Chris Carter on next week.
unidentified		Oh, are you really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		A very enlightened individual.
		I enjoy his work.
		Half the things on there are far-fetched, but some of the things on there are nowadays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look.
		Chris Carter deals with the edge of reality.
		In other words, I've been on a couple of his programs, and let me tell you that, I think I said this once before on the air, in the show that I was on, I was privileged to be on, it was about somebody who had a disease from the Gulf War.
		And in the original script, they called it what it really is called, microplasma incognitis.
		And that was in the original script they sent me.
		And when I got up to Canada to do the shoot, they had changed the name of the disease.
unidentified		I do remember you telling that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I. But I mean, that's how close to the edge of reality Mr. Carter dances.
unidentified		Oh, he really is.
		And how about the last episode of last year?
		Was that verbatim word for word, Zachariah Stitchen, or what?
		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, sir, I'm going to have to go.
		I've devoted a lot of time.
		You're a really good call, but I'm going to have to scoot.
		Any final words?
unidentified		Yeah, a final word.
		I would like to try to bring out a dragon.
		And here's how I want to bring him out.
		If you are a dragon, anyone who's listening, I would like to say this, that there will be an explosion.
		Explosion will be on a planet in our solar system.
		It will be caused by the people of Earth who are in control, and it will be utilized by the little space maneuvering ability of Galileo.
		When that happens, that's when you want to go out and start looking for your guns, start throwing food and water, because Y2K is nothing but a shock test.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all I got to say.
		All right.
		I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		And yeah, I'd like to talk to a dragon, too.
		But I kind of doubt a dragon will call.
		Well, you never know.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, finally.
		Okay.
		That was a really, really hard call to follow, but I was, because, you know, did you hear about today, about a student out in Columbine?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About what, huh?
unidentified		A student out in Columbine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A student at Columbine?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		He went and made a threat that he was going to finish the job or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't hear that.
unidentified		Well, anyways, well, just before I heard that, today on the news in Houston, there was a deal about a 13-year-old student who was stabbed in the head with a screwdriver.
		What?
		A 14-year-old student stabbed a 13-year-old student in the head at a high school.
		No, it's in middle school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Middle school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Houston?
unidentified		In Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess I wish I could say I'm shocked.
		And it is shocking.
		It's horrible to hear about, but.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
		Oh, but on a lighter note, I guess, whenever people were bringing up about the Knights Templar, did you know there's a music group that goes by that name?
		And I bet you can guess what one of their CDs is called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Jacques Des Molay.
unidentified		And also, another caller a couple weeks ago brought up about Perrump being mentioned on the Kid Rock video.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Perrump is on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder why.
unidentified		Well, I remember seeing something in the middle of the night because I was up watching TV, and he was talking about the making of the video.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is an absolute disproportionate amount of attention paid to Perrump, my little town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
unidentified		Well, he said because of the fact he's a fan of Art Bell and the X-Files and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		And he's even planning on maybe shooting a video in Roswell.
unidentified		Or Perrump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or Perrump.
		Oh, God.
		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Or Perrump.
		In the media, there's been way a disproportionate amount of attention paid to My Little Town.
		And we are a little town.
		I mean, we're 30,000 people, maybe.
		That's it.
		International Line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art, it's Mike calling from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, listening to you on 1410 C Fund.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing, Mike?
unidentified		Good, yourself?
		Fine.
		I just wanted to make three quick comments.
		First about your book, The Quickening.
		Yes.
		I just wanted to put a plug in it there for the public.
		I went out and purchased it when it came out.
		It is a well-written, thought-provoking piece of literature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if people sit down and read it today, it's going to seem prophetic.
unidentified		It's going to be scary is what it is.
		It's going to happen sooner or later, right?
		As I recall, you were down in Vancouver.
		Are you on a ship?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, you went on a I've been in Vancouver on a number of occasions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But yes, one of them was a tour up through the along the coast of Alaska, yes.
unidentified		How did you like it down here in Vancouver?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think you have one of the most beautiful cities on the face of the earth.
unidentified		Yeah, it's pretty nice.
		One final question.
		Actually, two more.
		What operating systems do you?
		I know you're a computer enthusiast, right?
		Oh, yes.
		What operating systems do you want at home?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've got mostly Windows 95 because I don't trust 98 yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've got Windows NT.
unidentified		Okay.
		One final comment.
		You know what, I was sitting here on my Debian Linux box here, and I thought, you know, how you'd like to go on your live cam with your t-shirts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another Linux slob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, snob.
unidentified		Just kidding.
		You know what would be really funny is to have you on your live cam that has a big Linux t-shirt with a penguin on it.
		I think that'd be really cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I noticed that people who have Linux, they've got their noses a little higher in the air.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I mean, there's more you can do, more functionality.
unidentified		Anyways, take care and keep listening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm sure my webmaster just sat straight up, said, what?
		I meant to say snob, not slob.
		Sure, most of the users are pretty neat.
		On my secret society line, you are on air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hello, sorry.
		Yeah, that's me.
unidentified		Hey, how's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Very good.
		All right, I was calling.
		I wanted to talk about what you were talking about in terms of secret societies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm a part of an order called the Mystic Nine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Mystic Nine?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's a new one.
unidentified		Yeah, the Mystic Nine is an order that is really not of this or on this plane, and it was something that happened metaphysically that came to me.
		This order is an order that basically is from a place or a planet called Sirius.
		I'm sure you've heard of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, you've probably also heard of some music by Parliament, the group Parliament.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
unidentified		Okay, they talked about the Mothership Connection a long time ago in the 70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay, well, this particular order is, it's sort of like the same order.
unidentified		They talked about the mothership connection, and what they were saying basically is that at some point in time, the mothership will come down and help raise the rest of the Mystic Nine of 144,000, which is one of the same things that Zachariasian talks about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, what I was basically calling to tell you was that it is a real order, and it actually precedes the Masonic Order of today.
		And the ancient Sumerians, of course, were the ones who started the whole concept of the Masonic Order.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you come to become a member of the Mystic Nine?
unidentified		Well, it came about through basically having a metaphysical experience.
		This was an experience that I did not ask for, but it came down.
		And what's happening now, based on the information that I'm getting through understanding the Akashic records and that type of thing, and being able to go into that now, I'm understanding that this particular order is coming back, and we are basically reawakening.
		And so the Masonic Order of today is still valid.
		It's a valid order.
		However, a lot of that knowledge that they have was stolen knowledge through Napoleon and through some of the conquest of that area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is the goal of the Mystic Nine?
unidentified		Well, it's also a part of what is called the New World Order.
		now.
		There are two New World Orders.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're like, you know, Well, I'm not, he was not complaining about that.
		Well, yes, he was.
		He was saying that the goal is to bring on Armageddon.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, no, that is not the goal.
		The goal is basically to raise the consciousness of this planet.
		Mother Earth, someone was talking about Mother Earth, or that they had some contact with Mother Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, Mother Earth is sick, and basically it's because of a lot of the things that we have done to Mother Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't disagree with that.
unidentified		Okay, with the ecosystems and things like that.
		And so Mother Earth giving someone a message is not very uncommon.
		So what's happening now is that a lot of the originals are incarnating again.
		And they're incarnating on this planet to help raise the consciousness of the planet so that we can raise the vibration because the vibration is so low that it's throwing things off in the rest of the universe.
		And so, thus, you get a lot of the problems that we have: earthquakes, tornadoes like crazy all over the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, in other words, we're screwing up a lot of other people's stuff or whatever.
unidentified		We are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are.
unidentified		We're causing a lot of problems throughout the rest of the universe, and it has to be fixed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're probably kind of fed up with us out there.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		That also explains some of the extraterrestrials that we're beginning to see.
		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm out of time.
		Gotta run.
		Sorry.
		Run like the wind.
unidentified		I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
		I've got to rise.
		I'd like to win.
		Be free again.
		And I've got a long way to go To make it to the border To make it go So I ride it But you win Yeah You keep saying you got something for me.
		Something you call love, but confess.
		You've been a messing.
		Well, you shouldn't have been a messing.
		And now someone else is getting all your best.
		These boots are made for August.
		And that's just what they'll do.
		One of these days, these boots are gonna luck all over you.
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		This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was certainly wrong about what I said.
		It was Andy Williams and Steve Lawrence.
		They sound a lot alike, but I was not wrong what I said about the Linux people.
		Right about that.
		Remember when they played this at Waco?
		You ever listen to the words?
unidentified		You keep playing, well, you couldn't be playing.
		And you keep thinking, that will never get burned.
		God just found me a brand new box in that case.
		And what he knows, you ain't had time to learn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable, isn't it?
unidentified		These boots are made for walking.
		And that's just what they'll do.
		One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
		Are you ready, Booth?
		Start walking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They played that again and again on the loudspeaker system in the Waco.
		and when you listen to the words later it's really shocking Ooh, that was a smooth one.
		They must have known I was on board.
		No egos in Hollywood, right?
		Actually, I would like to.
		I think Mr. Shatner would be a fun interview.
		I interviewed Mr. Spock, you know, Leonard Nimoy.
		I suppose Mr. Shatner would be very interesting to interview as well.
		Yeah, I think that if we can arrange it, I got a call from Chris Carter's office today.
		On the air.
		And we're going to try to arrange it for someday next week, if not then the following.
		But soon.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm interested in talking to you about the people who are Armageddonists.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Armageddonists?
		That's a cool new word.
		I like it.
unidentified		Well, they're trying to bring on the Armageddon.
unidentified		There's a large percentage of them that are fundamentalist Christians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		Like Jerry Falwell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		They believe the world will be consumed by fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, you know, there's another person I want to interview.
		Jerry Falwell.
		I'd really like to interview him.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		So they believe the world's going to be consumed by fire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And they call it the rapture.
unidentified		And it seems kind of absurd to me, you know, to bring on this nuclear destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, with that, I agree.
		I'd really like to have Jerry Falwell right here and be able to actually ask him if that is what he means.
		And I think he would disagree with that.
		He'd probably say, no, of course not.
		That is what I mean.
		But he is, I think, looking forward to the rapture.
		So there you are.
		He really would be an interesting person to talk to.
		He's made some interesting remarks about pathologists and so on and all the rest of it.
		And he'd be a fascinating interview.
		Want to do it, Jerry?
		Wildcard line, you're on here.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah.
		Call me with the Illuminati.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an Illuminati?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Person, girl, woman?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are.
unidentified		With the Illuminati for the families.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The families?
unidentified		It it's set up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be careful with families.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That has a specific connotation here in Nevada.
unidentified		Well, it it's set up.
		You have your Council of Thirteen.
		And that's the executive committee of the Illuminati.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you be an Illuminatius?
unidentified		I'm not on the Council of Thirteen.
		Okay.
		And then within those families, you've got the Mother of Darkness, you've got Princes, and Mother of the Princess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, slow down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Mother of Darkness?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Who is the Mother of Darkness?
		Well, where it is, Hillary Clinton is up to that rank.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hillary?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hillary is the Mother of Darkness?
unidentified		Up there, uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean to say New York State may have the mother of darkness running things there?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		And then it's got a judicial branch, and that's called the Sanhedrin.
		That's made up of 70 people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		And it's got a legislative branch, and that's 300 people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what people call the committee of 300?
unidentified		That's the committee of 300.
		And say if you take a family, let's take the Rockefeller family because they're an Illuminati family, and they go down for generations with John Dee and the Sons and the Sons and the Sons and stuff like that.
		Now sometimes they'll try to hide the bloodlines or work their power in.
		And now the father of Bill Clinton we have is Lawrence Rockefeller with the mother being Virginia Delcassie.
		And so Virginia Del Cassie's lines go to the Russell family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it hard to get an Illuminati through the eye of a needle?
unidentified		They can do about anything.
		I don't know, you know.
		See, now you've got the Rockefellers running the banking system, the Chase Manhattan banking systems, a lot of the businesses, and one of the branches that they have is the Century Club.
		And that's more where my family's been involved with the Century Club.
		And they'll have like Treasurer of Kodak or President of Xerox or something like that or Baush and Lam.
		And that's higher up.
		And you've got your Council on Foreign Relations and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've come full circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We started with a CFR, I think.
unidentified		And you've got other families.
		You've got the DuPont family is another Illuminati family.
		And they do a lot of more research.
		They're not as much into politics, although they do have a lot of political connections in Delaware.
		They do the research.
		They do a lot of the UFO stuff is from their family, the DuPont.
		And the different supplies to the military come from the DuPont family.
		They have the monopoly in the United States on the gunpowder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		And then you have the commons family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what is all of this moving toward?
unidentified		The New World Order.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what happens?
unidentified		The Satan reigning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happens to the gunpowder in the New World Order?
unidentified		It's controlled by the Illuminati.
		They get it.
		See, they can do what they want with the guns.
		Everybody keeps their guns.
		We don't have gunpowder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What good is a gun without bullets?
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Throw it at somebody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's about all you can do.
unidentified		Right, that's right.
		And the Collins is more of a witchcraft family, the generation of witchcraft.
		And when you do have a witchcraft, there are generational things going on that was my grandmother and my great-grandmother something that's been in the family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, but in essence, you're part of all this.
unidentified		Bloodline, more or less.
		You know, I've converted to Christianity, but, you know, you get a connection to it.
		The old NWO doesn't really ever get out of you.
		Well, you get and and but it's interesting.
		It's it's interesting how it's structured and how it operates because it operates so secretly and it has so much power and control and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're a scary lady.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you know all this.
unidentified		And now Joe Kennedy was involved with the Illuminati and his son's JFK.
unidentified		He thought he was in charge of the United States and not the Illuminati and that is where they had their conflicts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so that's what did him in?
unidentified		That's what did him in.
		And that's what did Bobby in too.
		They didn't show the line.
		See, Bill Clinton does more what they want and some of the other presidents will do more what they want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about, obviously, I mean, Bush or Gore will be the next president?
unidentified		I don't know as much about Gore.
		I know Bush.
		I know that George Bush has been involved with the Stone Crossbones.
		I know being in charge of the CIA, the CIA is awfully shady.
		And when you study that, it's quite a bit of stuff that it's involved with.
		And I've heard that it's quite big in the drug track.
		That's why I've heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what's being, I know.
		That's a big bad rumor going around.
		But, you know, if really so many people believe this of George Bush senior and now to be, no doubt, in waiting, then why is he elected?
		Why are they the Bush is elected again and again?
unidentified		It has to do with the media.
		The media will promote who they want to promote.
		And see, the media is owned by people.
		If you've got the kind of money that the Rockefellers have, you can, you know, within the buyer contract.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, you're absolutely right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the media.
unidentified		So they're not going to talk trash about themselves.
unidentified		Yeah, but I don't feel called to say a damn good thing about George Bush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		George W. Not at all.
		And I'm in the media.
		As a matter of fact, I think I'm in one of the largest media companies in America right now.
		The largest.
		And they never tell me what to say.
		They're probably scared half to death of what I'm going to say.
		And we are, I guarantee you, with the recent acquisitions of my company, or the division of my company, we're a monster of the biggest broadcaster in the world right Now.
		And so you would think if there was going to be some control that they'd control me, and I'm totally out of control almost all the time.
		So I wonder about that.
unidentified		People say, well, it's the media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question was: why, if everybody knows about this, are we re-electing Bush's by the droves?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Answer was the media.
unidentified		Well, I can't buy into that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Simply because they should have stomped on me a long time ago.
		Of course, you know, we've tried a few times.
		But not my company.
		International Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, Art.
		Hello.
		I'm calling from Burnaby, B.C. Burnham's had a good conspiracy book for people.
		Excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
unidentified		It's called The Holy Blood, The Holy Grail.
unidentified		These guys would be good guests on your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They would be if I knew how to contact them.
unidentified		Michael Brennan, Richard Lay, and Henry Lincoln.
unidentified		It's a book about Jesus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And that he was married and that he might not have been crucified on the cross.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who was that then?
unidentified		Who was that?
unidentified		Well, they say his twin brother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His twin brother?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is getting deeper by the minute here.
unidentified		It's a good book.
		Is it?
		Yeah, it talks about that this secret has been concealed.
		But a lot of, like, the Vatican and that, they know it.
		And there's a secret society called the Puree de Sion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's called what?
unidentified		The Puree de Sion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds French.
unidentified		Yeah, it is French.
		That's the secret society behind that keeps this secret.
		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so there is.
unidentified		I got another thing to ask about, or to say, is, you know, when you do those experiments with people?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What doesn't everybody just think about you quitting smoking and starting to exercise?
unidentified		Well, if everybody does that tonight, maybe you'll quit smoking and you'll live longer and you'll be on the air longer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
		I know.
		Do you know there was a lady who passed away at 120 years of age recently, and she quit smoking when do you think?
		At 118.
unidentified		Now, how do you account for that?
		It's not a very good drug, those cigarettes.
		Well, I'm the next smoker myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long?
unidentified		I quit for two years, and then last summer, not the last summer that just passed, but the summer before, I started for three months again.
		Pressure?
		Yeah.
		I had a pretty good job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Try doing a radio program like this.
		I'm talking about pressure.
		Even though it sounds easy, you know, relaxed and all that.
unidentified		There's a lot of pressure.
		It must be.
		Well, you only do it three nights a week now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's still pressure.
		And there's things going on behind the scenes you don't know about.
		A lot of pressure.
		And so if you were a smoker, you know, when you're pressured, when you've got stress in your life, what do you do?
unidentified		Yeah, it must be more difficult to quit.
		Yeah.
		That's what I'm saying.
		Like, you know, everybody thought about it.
		It might make it easier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or when you're on the telephone.
		What do you do?
		If you're a smoker, you grab a cigarette, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After smoking.
unidentified		Well, you could limit yourself not smoke, just smoke after meals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After sex?
unidentified		Yeah, that too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After coffee?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Breakfast?
unidentified		You know what they should do in the States?
		What?
		Is they should legalize marijuana and just tax it.
		They can make lots of money.
		And, you know, sick people could get it.
		They could be the only ones that don't pay tax on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, if they were to legalize marijuana and hemp products for all purposes, the Wall Street Journal suggested we could raise about a half a trillion dollars a year in revenue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know?
unidentified		Half a trillion.
unidentified		That's a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of money.
		$500 billion.
		All right, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the good thoughts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First-time caller line, you're on here.
unidentified		Hello.
		Good evening, Art.
		Good evening.
		I'm calling from San Francisco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Former member of the Temple of Set.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		Oh, the Temple of Set.
		I've heard of that.
unidentified		Now, for those listeners out there who are not familiar with the Temple of Set, it was an offshoot splinter group of Anton LeVay's Church of Satan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's dark stuff.
unidentified		Very dark.
		But not for the reasons that most of you would think.
		Not for the religious reasons.
		Closely affiliated with the government and mind control operations.
		Really?
		It was founded by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino.
		That name may sound familiar.
		Those of you who remember back in the 70s, he was a- He was involved in a child sexual abuse scandal at the Presidio Army Base in San Francisco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		San Francisco.
unidentified		But the most important thing, well, he's also a key conductor on the Freedom Train.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And for those of you who are not in the know, the Freedom Train is parlance for the National Network of Government Mind Control Slaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The National Network of Government Mind Control Slaves.
unidentified		Yes, the people.
unidentified		I will not say any names because I don't want to get you in trouble.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, don't do that.
unidentified		I'm not going to do that.
unidentified		But just so, you know, people, names that your audience are very familiar with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are there a lot of government control slaves out there?
unidentified		I honestly have no idea how many there are.
		Well, you may.
		It may be, I would say, in the hundreds, at least.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what generally, what kind of missions are they assigned?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what are they out there to do?
unidentified		Well, because these people suffer from what is called dissociative identity disorder or multiple personality complex, their brains are compartmentalized and they serve various functions.
		If you trigger them with a particular stimuli, such as a word or phrase, they can be, for example, a sex slave, which is actually very common.
		One of the things, the reasons that Bill Clinton's got in so much trouble is he's had a tendency to move outside of the sex slaves provided through these programs and go after other people, whether it be interns or married people or former associates, people who worked for him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but a slave is supposed to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cooperative trouble he could have.
unidentified		Oh, well, that's my point.
		These people, the ones you hear about in the media, have not been the slaves.
		They've been the people outside.
		See, Bill Clinton has been violating the rules.
		Most presidents keep it quiet because they limit their extramarital sexual affairs to people who are in this sex slave network.
		That's where you never hear about it.
		But the most important thing I want to get out to your audience tonight, the most important piece of information is that I would like to reveal the identity of the Antichrist for the New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
		Can you hold through the break here?
		Absolutely.
unidentified		This is very important.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is for you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and maybe a steel helmet.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		This will stick in your mind.
		Rattles around.
		Really old.
unidentified		Old, old, old.
		Something about itself.
		The Cradle of Love When the wind blows.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, gee, here is an interesting little factoid from the UK news, United Kingdom News.
unidentified		Judges must declare Masonic link.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Judges, magistrates, and police officers will in the future have to declare whether they are Freemasons.
		The Home Secretary said he would ask the United Grand Lodge to publish regional lists of Freemasons who work in the criminal justice system.
		If it refuses to cooperate, a register will be set up which Masons will have to declare that they belong to lodges.
		Though the register will at first be voluntary, Mr. Straw said the government was prepared to change the law to force employees to declare their membership.
		The rules will also apply to crown prosecutors, probation officers, and prison staff.
		All right, sir, you're back on the air.
unidentified		Great, Art.
unidentified		Before I reveal the identity of the Antichrist, I would like to recommend a couple of books that I feel would be very instructive for your audience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And one of them, of course, is The Biggest Secret, the book that will change the world by David Icke.
		That's I-C-K-E.
		Yep.
		And I know you had him on the show once several months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did, yes.
unidentified		You did say to him that you would have him back on when his book came out, and we're still waiting.
		Well, we'll see.
		I think he'd be a fabulous guest.
		Another book that your audience would benefit from is a book entitled None Dare Call It Conspiracy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's been around a long time.
unidentified		It's a classic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've read it.
unidentified		What do you think of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Long time ago.
		As Stanton Friedman would say, it's in my gray box.
		But I digested that book.
		I thought it was very interesting.
unidentified		Are you also familiar with the book Transformation of America by Kathy O'Brien?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		She was a victim of government-sponsored mind control.
unidentified		And I believe she would make a fabulous guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		MK Ultra, that kind of thing?
unidentified		Project Monarch, MK Ultra.
		She was part of the Freedom Train.
		She was one of these government sex slaves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, well, that sounds interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A government sex slave.
unidentified		And she has quite a bit to say about the New World Order and many of the most famous politicians in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who is the Antichrist?
unidentified		Not who you would expect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
unidentified		It is.
		It is Prince Charles of Wales.
		Ah.
		Can I back it up?
		Oh, yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Antichrist and a cup of tea or whatever it is.
		Yeah, I'm familiar with that.
		Right.
unidentified		That is part of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
unidentified		I think the author presents a very strong case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Prince Charles is hardly a compelling personality of any sort.
unidentified		He has been intimately involved in four of the most widely viewed televised events in the history of the modern world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what?
unidentified		His personal and historically unique coat of arms is a literal and graphic representation of the beast described in Revelations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's all a bunch of baloney.
unidentified		His name, Charles of Wales, calculates to exactly 666 in two languages, both Hebrew and English.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So Ronald Wilson-Reagan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So a lot of people have names that add up to 666.
unidentified		Yes, but not using the correct Hebrew numerical values and the biblical method of sequential numbering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a book, wasn't there, the Antichrist and the Cup of Tea?
unidentified		I believe there was, yes.
		And I believe the author, Tim Cohen, would be an excellent guest.
		Also, keep in mind that the Royal Family of England provided the money through their bank, NatWest, for the company Mondex.
		Mondex is the company that is the preeminent company in the world developing cashless electronic money, the smart card.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're headed that way.
unidentified		But Mondex actually stands for monetary dexter, meaning money and dexter, the right.
		The right is in the right hand.
		People will eventually have either a chimp implanted or something tattooed upon them that will be used as the mark of the beast.
		You will not be able to buy or sell without it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know the story.
		All right.
		Well, I appreciate it, but I don't buy the Prince Charles stuff, never did.
		The Antichrist is going to have to be a very compelling figure.
		I mean, very compelling.
		And I don't want to make a crack here, so I won't.
		But I just don't.
		I don't.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
		Hello.
		Is there Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		We're going to turn off radio.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good caller.
unidentified		And I have a what?
unidentified		I'm a grand dervish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A grand Irvish?
unidentified		Dervish.
unidentified		A grand frisbee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the Frisbean society.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which has no relationship to the round thing that one tosses on these three.
unidentified		It's an offshoot of the Baba B Happies of the 60s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Baba Bi Happies?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that have anything to do with Baba Bui?
unidentified		No, no.
		No, good.
		The Baba B happies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Baba Bi Happies.
unidentified		It's an Eastern religion that was kind of toyed with in the 60s by the Hippie Trail type people.
unidentified		And we believe that when you die, your soul goes on the roof and you can't get it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like a frisbee, right?
unidentified		And oh, the instrument on the Steve Orange song?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It is violin's pizzicato.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it sure is well done.
unidentified		Yes, I agree on you.
unidentified		I didn't care for Steve Orange too much, but the music was done well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was.
		Thank you.
		And keep sailing.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Easter of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hello?
		Yes.
		Am I reaching here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who are you reaching?
unidentified		Yeah, who am I speaking with?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's your best guess?
		Bell.
		Bingo.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Turn your radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		Turn it off?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn it off.
unidentified		Hold on, please.
		All right.
		I will hold.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, people should have them convenient and ready at their very side so that when they get on the air, they can turn it off.
unidentified		All right, sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's right.
unidentified		So.
unidentified		Still there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'm here.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was that?
unidentified		What was my chair?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your chair?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, if I had a chair like that, they'd throw me off here.
unidentified		Oh, sorry.
		Sorry.
		You have one with wheels, I assume, and it's above carpet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm moving now.
		No, actually, it's not good on carpet.
		It really screws up carpet.
		So my wife built me a very special floor in here.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I can wheel around on it with ease.
unidentified		I cannot believe I'm speaking with you.
unidentified		Well, this is no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some articles of faith that you just have to take.
unidentified		I know.
		I've tried to get through forever, and I just never could get through.
		And I had, like, you know, the reason I called you is because I had a comment about you talked to that guy from Washington State.
		They had the hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mel's hole, yes.
unidentified		Right.
		I'm pretty skeptical about that.
		Because of the fact you asked him, you said, Mel, can you provide photographs of this?
		And he said, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, that isn't quite right.
		It's not quite right.
		What he said was in the first interview that he would indeed try to do that.
		And when he went back, there were military people preventing him from getting back.
		He went in trying to get pictures.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		It's just that I heard all that, and he said, isn't there, you know, some cameras that you know of, you know, we have enormous technology as far as cameras go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		There's no possible way he could ever, ever get close enough To get a picture, because what my whole thing was on that is that you asked me, you said, can you draw us a picture?
unidentified		And he said, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You see, my thing with that is anyone could do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		Anyone could draw a picture and anyone could say, this is what it is.
		And you asked me, have you involved the media?
		Have you involved any.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, I think you have every right to be skeptical about Mel's Hull.
unidentified		I was very, very, you know, I was very interested in it.
		You know, I heard him discussing it on the air.
		And if it's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what you've got to remember is Strange Universe went up there with a television crew after I did that story.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you didn't know that, huh?
unidentified		Oh, I did not know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And one of their camera people fell into the hole.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never to be heard from again.
unidentified		Never to be heard from.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sound guy almost fell in, too.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The sound guy almost fell in.
unidentified		The sound guy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a cable, and, you know, he damn near got dragged down with a camera guy.
unidentified		And I heard you say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They did go up there, though.
unidentified		I was going to say, come on, that's a little far-fetched.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is far-fetched.
		But what they did find was military boot prints all over the area and markings, military markings all over the area.
		And military track vehicles all over the area where Mel's Hole is supposed to be.
unidentified		Right.
		I kept hearing him talk about it, and then I made notes about it because he said that the whole, I can't exactly remember the measurements on the diameter and everything.
		Like I said, if it's true, it's very interesting.
		And I hope it is.
		The world needs things like that.
		Why?
		Well, we need things that we can do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why does the world need a bottomless hole?
unidentified		Why do we need a bottomless hole?
		Yep.
		Because some things are just one of a kind, and it makes them more mysterious.
		It makes them hold certain meanings to people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever considered this, though?
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Deep within the Earth.
		We really don't know what's in the Earth.
		I mean, you hear a scientist say, well, it's an iron core.
		You hear a scientist say, well, it's a molten core and it's hot.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You hear people talk about the hollow earth theory.
		You hear a lot of people say that there may be things that live deep within the earth.
		Life, now they're talking about science is saying there could be life deep within the earth.
		And if you've got a hole that things can fall down, you've got a hole that things can crawl out of.
unidentified		That's true.
		That is true.
		So it's just, you know, and he said, even if it's not a bottomless pit, like, you know, he suggests that it's the deepest hole in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he didn't say bottomless.
		He said that he ran the monofilament down X number of 7,000 feet, I think, and he found no bottom at that point.
		That's pretty far.
unidentified		Okay, and this is another point I wanted to make.
unidentified		He has every constitutional right under the amendment to the military, even if it's the military.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know where you're going.
unidentified		Okay, you know where I'm going with that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you can't really get there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if you've got something, sir, that affects national security.
unidentified		Which is a plane crashing there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have something that is so serious that it would affect national security, and you could hold the Bill of Rights up and talk about them until the cows came home, and you'd still end up in a facility somewhere.
unidentified		So you do think that the military has the right anyway.
		Well, I know they have some rights to bend the rules a little bit, but do you think that they have the right?
		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say bend the rules?
unidentified		Yeah, bend the rules.
		Which means the Constitution and the rights.
		Yes.
		You're right, but when I heard the first time, I was just saying to myself, if this is my property and I had this kind of thing on my property and I wanted to go investigate it, it's my property.
		I know that.
		So I'm going to go do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They said, Mel.
unidentified		They were the private.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You essentially have two choices.
		You can lease this to us in perpetuity, or we can take it away from you.
		If we lease it, we'll pay you a bunch of money, and you can go down to Australia and live happily ever after.
		Or we can take it away from you.
		And if you don't think the government can do that, let me show you what's happened here in Nevada around Area 51.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just annexed all kinds of land.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just said, that land is now ours.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		I don't get how that can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you know where that song says, this land is your land?
		Not all of it.
		All right.
		So anyway, I appreciate your skeptical call.
unidentified		Oh, no problem.
		And I love your show.
		Keep it up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		Thank you.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Rocky or Rocky here in Woodbury, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Rocky, you're going to have to yell at us a little.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not too loud.
unidentified		Oh, I always have to yell this stupid phone.
unidentified		Say, how about a Y2K update from the big Midwest?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm kind of waiting to see if Gary North is going to come back on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said last time he was on.
unidentified		He's got some great stuff, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do.
unidentified		On embedded chips?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I talked to the guy who personally checked all the embedded chips.
		How could one...
		Well, I'm talking about Minneapolis-St.
		Paul here.
		Yeah.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The guy who checked the chips.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Turns out that 85% of the chips didn't even have a date routine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that may well be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And of the 15% that do?
unidentified		Replaced.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Replaced?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing because I've heard that most power companies have done absolutely nothing.
unidentified		Well, I happen to be a night janitor in the corporate office of the main power company here, which I will not make.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've been reading the trash, have you?
unidentified		Have I ever?
		Uh-huh.
		We're so ready, Art, you can't hardly believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, there's not even going to be like a blink of the lights there in your area.
unidentified		Not a blink, no gas shutoffs, no water problems, nothing.
		And here's the kicker: they set up a network, 45 computers.
		They ran every piece of software that they used throughout the company.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And nothing can go wrong.
unidentified		For three days.
		By the third day, now they started out with an army of people in this room.
		And by the third day, they had them watching videos.
		They were like watching movies because everything had gone so well that there was nothing to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they ended up taping all their eyes open, tying them in a chair, and playing them 30-something until they couldn't handle it anymore, right?
unidentified		Well, pretty much.
		Pretty much.
		I can't remember what they were watching, but as I walked by along about midnight, they were watching videos because everything had gone so well with the Y2K testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you live then in a Y2K free zone?
unidentified		I believe so, unless some other thing goes wrong, like everybody goes nuts and shoots each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't expect that.
unidentified		I don't either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, my friend, the show is over, and you are the lucky one to get to say goodnight.
		So choose your words and tell everybody good night.
unidentified		Good night, America.
unidentified		Peace, love, joy, all the good stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And power.
unidentified		And power.
unidentified		And it comes through the socket.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, power to the people.
		That's right.
		Power to the people.
		All right.
		See you later.
		Okay, that'll do it.
		Linda Molten Howe in hour one tomorrow night.
		After that, I don't have the slightest idea.
		So you all take care now from the high desert where we hope it won't shake anymore.

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