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Oct. 13, 1999 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ellen Crystall - Alien Encounters

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American southwest, I did you walk good evening and or good morning across all these many prolific land zones stretching from the Houston and Hawaiian Islands exotically located in the west eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands also exotically located into South America north all the way to the whole world on the internet thank you broadcast.com for the distribution and of course the preparation for
		and mathematics that made possible the G2 player program, which is free.
		I said free.
		You just go to my website, look on the left-hand side.
		You'll be able to download the G2 program for free.
		Put it in your computer.
		Come back up to my website, and on the left-hand side, you will see streaming video.
unidentified		Click on that, and then magic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here I am in living color.
		And you can see and hear me doing the program.
		It's an amazing thing to me how many people actually do that.
		All right, let us see what is going on in the world and some fair amount.
		A landmark treaty to ban nuclear testing was tossed out by the Senate today.
		The vote was 48 to 51, a defeat for the president, but maybe a victory for us.
		Now, I know that we should all be thinking about the possibility of global thermonuclear war, and I am thinking about it a little bit.
		I saw a statistic earlier on CNN that made me wonder a little bit about how wise some of these treaties we're making are.
		Now, did you know that with regard to the number of warheads, we've had a number of warheads, had quite a number of treaties already right the the old soviet bloc countries possess 23,000 warheads after we have moved this far in the various treaties to limit the number of warheads they have 23,000
		and we have 12,000 now I looked at that earlier today and I thought that doesn't seem that doesn't seem equitable in other words what kind of deals have we been making I thought the whole concept of this nuclear weapons reduction which by the way I'm certainly for was to reduce both sides evenly roughly evenly to get some sort of some sort of a par but
		But they've got almost twice as many nuclear warheads as we do.
		Something to think about.
		Colorado and Boulder, a grand jury, has now decided there is not enough evidence to indict anybody, and so they will not, in the Jean-Brunnet Ramsey case.
		It's been going on and on and on since the Christmastime 1996 murder.
		And so I guess there will be no new grand jury, no new investigation, and barring new evidence, it's over.
		It's over.
		And, of course, the Ramseys maintain their innocence.
		They have been the main suspects, I guess, through all of this.
		And I wonder if it's really over for them now.
		Only they know that for sure.
		But we do live in a country, you know, where unless it can be conclusively proven that you did something, they don't convict you.
		At least that's the way it's supposed to work.
		So there you have it.
		They want Gore.
		Pat Buchanan appears prepared to bolt the Republican Party going to take off.
		He's basically saying, I've had enough.
		They're saying he's going to make a major announcement on October 25th.
		He will be seeking the Reform Party's presidential nomination.
		And so Pat Buchanan, out.
unidentified		Interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, remember what I said about the warheads?
		Hartford, Connecticut, Associated Press.
		Colt, Colt's manufacturing company.
		You know, Colt that made the six-shooter the gun that won the West?
		He's all but getting out of the everyday handgun business because of lawsuits against the government.
		gun industry they make the famous 45 caliber automatic that the u.s military used during most of this century as i said they make they make the gun that won the west and soon they'll not be making uh guns anymore some classic handguns perhaps but looks like they're being sued out of existence virtually interesting
		story here washington the u.s was we now found out have found out on the brink of war with north korea during a crisis just five years ago according to william perry did you know that i didn't On the brink of war with North Korea five years ago.
		They didn't tell us that five years ago.
		Perry's remarks came during a Clinton administration announcement last month that it was easing long-standing economic sanctions against the communist country because another crisis over North Korea's planned missile tests had been averted by diplomacy.
		But during the summer of 94, according to Pentagon officials, the U.S. military drew up plans to send cruise missiles and the famous F-117 stealth fighters to strike a small nuclear reactor.
		Do you remember that nuclear reactor?
		Now, the conclusion at the State Department, as they considered doing this, was that we would, in fact, start a war.
		Of course, we did not do it, but we came right up to the brink of another war with Korea, and nobody ever told us about that.
		The plans were on the table.
		The switch only had to be thrown by the president, and we'd a minute war.
		That's something to consider.
		You notice how they always tell you about this stuff later?
		Well, yesterday, the Earth had a close call with an object that passed within 200,000 miles.
		That's not today's story, but there was one like it actually several times.
		Well, we almost went to war.
		Well, we were right on the brink.
		Well, they had their finger on the button.
		They never told us any of that.
		We didn't know that.
		So they're making these plans all on their own.
		I mean, they could have started a war in Korea, and there would have been not one instant of public debate about it.
		Think about that.
		Not one little tiny bit of public debate.
		F-117s, cruise missiles destroying a North Korean atomic plant.
		I'm not sure about the advisability of that, first of all, but second of all, yeah.
		That would likely start a war.
		And there was no public debate.
		I remember we were all concerned about that nuclear plant, but I had no idea they had brought the forces right up to the brink and they were ready to, you know, go to war.
		Now, Mexico.
		My deepest, darkest fear, all my life, my biggest fear has been, I know it sounds dumb.
		Everybody has, well, by the way, what is your biggest fear?
		I have always been afraid of being swallowed by the earth.
		I know it sounds stupid, and people call me up and they say, Art, it doesn't happen.
		You don't know anything about earthquakes.
		It never happens.
		You don't get swallowed.
		The earth doesn't open up and swallow you.
unidentified		Oh, yes, it does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a story here that just occurred in Mexico entitled Village Swallowed in Mexico.
		Associated Press, all right?
		So you know the source, AP.
		Mexican troops dug cautiously into a still shifting hillside Saturday in the hamlet of Mixon, where 17 people, including a dozen children, were buried when the earth literally opened up and swallowed the Teutonic Indian community.
		The ground keeps moving beneath the search teams.
		That's three days after something.
		Nobody can quite explain precisely what destroyed the village.
		One of the most remote corners of Mexico, there was no normal mudslide, anything of that sort.
		One survivor, Anna Maria Lewis, 70 years of age, described with a circular motion of her hand how her wooden house was, get this folks, sucked in on itself and disappeared.
		She said, it went away swirling.
		My house disappeared right behind me.
		It was as if it exploded downward.
		Standing beside her at a shelter set up in a school, her daughter-in-law nursed her one-year-old son and became sad when she mentioned that her other two sons, Jose VI and Luis IV, are dead.
unidentified		So it does happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An entire village.
		Now, would anybody out there mind telling me exactly what it is that could do this, causing the ground literally opening up, not like Bell's Hole, I guess, but opening up and swallowing people and buildings.
		And imagine in your head, close your eyes and imagine a house swirling around and around, kind of like what you've seen in your sink, right?
		How the water swirls, swirls and swirls, going down.
		And that's exactly how she described what occurred to her home as she stood there and watched it into the earth.
		Now that really, really does bear a little bit of thought.
		personally it's here that you know what happened If you have some good reason to reach me or try to reach me, you are welcome to do so.
		I have an email address, and I have a good one too.
		It's Art Bell, A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com.
		And I am there, that is on MindSpring, for the same Reasons that you ought to be there.
		They've got good, fast, reliable connections, period.
		Every time you try, boom, boom, boom, they are there.
		That's one.
		Two, they've got this wonderful thing called the spaminator, and I swear I would buy it for that if no other reason alone.
		And it gets rid of all this junk email that you otherwise get.
		You know, X-rated solicitations, ways you can make zillions of dollars while you're asleep, that kind of thing, that you really don't need, too good to be true, and they are too good to be true, of course.
		But they send them to you anyway, endlessly in your mailbox, unless you have mind spring.
		And then they filter all of that junk out.
		Now, what else?
		They've got friendly people so that if in the middle of the night you're having some sort of problem, you know, something's not quite working, right, you call them up, they get on the phone with you, and they treat you like a human being, which a lot of companies don't do anymore.
		By the way, I've been meaning to talk about that generally.
		What the hell has happened to customer service in this country?
		You wonder about that at all?
		What has happened to customer service?
		You can't even get a human being anymore.
		It's a damnedest thing.
		You call any company these days, and what you get is some tangled voicemail web, which may or may not ultimately provide you with some kind of choice you want.
		And I always find myself simply looking for a way to get a human being.
		And the machines are getting trickier and trickier.
		They won't give you a human being.
		It sounds like you're going to get a human being, but all you get is another real machine directing you to other parts of the machine.
		Caught in an endless labyrinth of voicemail.
		Anyway, digressing, they've got real human beings at MindSpring that will help you out.
		And of course, then there is the deal, and I don't see how you could possibly refuse that.
		All you've got to do is buy one month of MindSpring, and they'll give you two months for free.
		Now, that really is a good deal.
		One month, you buy one month, you get two more months free.
		That's amazing.
		Three for one.
		So, you need to call them.
		Oh, and by the way, if you've got unlimited service, that account, then your wife gets her own email mailbox.
		So do all your children, no matter how prolific you may be.
unidentified		Call them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give you the number now.
		Write it down.
		Or better yet, just call it right now and switch and get rid of that clunker of an internet provider you've got for something better.
		1-888-677-7464.
		Again, with feeling.
		1-888-677-7464.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, this village that disappeared, and it was an entire village, for example, the school itself with all the children save a few who got out.
		Well, the teacher got out, a 20-year-old woman.
		Unfortunately, actually, even this 20-year-old woman, I guess she didn't get out, says, and the rest of the pupils were swallowed up when the earth opened and then closed in over the school.
		Now, let me repeat that.
		The earth opened and then closed in over the school.
		What happened down there?
		It's not a mudslide.
		This is the earth actually opening up and swirling things into it.
		Have you ever heard of anything like that in your whole life?
unidentified		I haven't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is my deepest, darkest fear, and here it is in print.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Dan in Idaho Falls.
		Hello, Dan.
		Do you remember me?
		I've been giving you updates on the supernova.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The experimentation being done that may well, if things go wrong, simply cause us all to blink out like we were never here, the entire planet.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		President Clinton has responded to me with two assassins that he sent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, baloney.
unidentified		They were distributing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, baloney.
		Now I know who you are.
		Yeah, you're the guy who thinks the sun is going to go supernova, which would fry the world, as described.
		And there's no question about that.
		So I guess we need not get into that technical part of the world.
unidentified		Do you want to hear my story about the two assassins?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I don't believe it.
		Say something to make me believe that President Clinton sent two people to have you killed.
		I don't believe it.
unidentified		They were distributing religious literature on the literature was a biological weapon that causes cancer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
unidentified		Because I got cancer.
		Very gradual.
		Now, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you didn't tell me about this, what?
		You called a week ago, at least?
		You didn't tell me this a week ago.
unidentified		I didn't know at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they sent you religious literature.
unidentified		No, they handed it to me.
unidentified		Yeah, two guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two guys, right?
unidentified		Two guys, yes.
unidentified		Ryan Dackerson, identical government suits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With little prime microphones and earphones, right?
unidentified		Well, I don't know about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they gave you religious literature, and in one week, you caught cancer.
unidentified		No, this has been going on five weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Five weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In five weeks.
unidentified		I did not know it until just recently.
unidentified		Well, anyhow, I got religious literature, and I want to file charges against President Clinton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, good luck to you.
		You've got to get permission to sue the government.
		Anyway, you should be careful what you read.
unidentified		I can't walk out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
unidentified		Because I love him too much, baby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can picture the guys in my mind right now.
unidentified		Here you go, sir.
		Free tracks from the press.
		When you don't believe a word out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe a word of it.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
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		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Arkbell.
		Now, here again is Arkbell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you, this thing is just going around and around in my head.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it was only a moderate hit a long time ago, but I love it.
unidentified		Maybe it's a hunt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or something.
		I don't know.
		There's something about it.
		It just keeps going round and round.
unidentified		There ain't nothing but a heart ain't ever say.
		Nothing but a heart ain't ever say.
		Get out of my heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-uh.
		Music.
		Anyway, we're going to continue to do this and sort of play music that is going to take you on a trip through the millennium, what we have left of this one before the next one begins.
		And please, please stop sending me things saying this is not going to be the new millennium.
		Because whether you are technically right or wrong does not matter.
		I know people say, I get these faxes during the day.
		Don't embarrass yourself.
		Don't be calling this the new millennium coming up because you're off by a year.
		It doesn't actually begin until 2001.
unidentified		Well, you people are fighting a losing battle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The American public, the media, everybody else has decided the new millennium shall begin with the year 2000.
		And I'm with you.
		As far as I'm concerned, once the tick goes to 2000, that is significant.
		And so you can send these taxes until the cows come home.
		But to me, it's going to be the new millennium.
		And with the new millennium, no doubt, there will be some surprises, some good, some bad.
		Stock market has not had a lot of good surprises for us lately, has it?
		Last couple of days, have you been watching it?
		We're down to, what, 10-2-something now?
unidentified		October.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not a good psychological month for anybody in the market, ever.
		Ever since the crash.
		I guess these kinds of things haunt us.
		And I wonder if there's an economic reality to it or whether or whether it's just sort of a myth that has become reality.
		I'm not sure it's worth thinking about.
		The Beijing Free Play Radio will account and help you through one of these uncertainties because it doesn't require batteries, nor does it require being plugged into the wall.
unidentified		It's unique.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It has a crank on the side.
		It's built like a tank, was invented in Great Britain and manufactured in South Africa for third world countries that didn't have much power, or sporadic power at best, because you don't need power.
		But here is where it's selling in the U.S. That's where it's selling.
		You turn the crank for 30 seconds, and this amazing device plays at full room volume on AM, FM, and 7 shortwave bands for 30 minutes.
		Think about it, 30 seconds of cranking, 30 minutes of playing.
		Moreover, it has a light, an LED array that'll last about 100,000 hours, a magnetic light plugs into the back of the radio, a 12-foot cord so you can work on stuff.
		Now, every time you crank the radio, you get, for 30 seconds, you get not only the radio I described, but you get light as well, a nice diffuse white light.
		It's really neat.
		So you've got information and you've got light, and you're not dependent on the grid.
		You think about that.
		The price was $149.95 right now until they're gone, which is soon.
		They're $119.95.
		$119.95.
		It's the only place you can get a Beijing with a light.
		See Crane Company.
		Call them at 1-800-522-8863.
		That's 1-800-522-8863.
		All right, we've got a couple of more things to do here, and it's back to open lines.
		Stay right there.
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unidentified		Call now.
unidentified		Are you ready for Y2K the movie?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's coming.
		According to somebody who just faxed me, he says, Dear Art, I just confirmed it with NBC in Los Angeles that on November 21st at 9 o'clock, they're going to have Y2K the movie.
		Now, I was wondering, what do you think they'll do with the movie?
		I mean, you couldn't very well show John and his family huddled in the corner of the house as 11.5959 came up on December 31st, all backed into a corner with their storable foods and everything.
		And then midnight coming and they sit around and they wait and nothing happens and nothing happens and nothing happens.
		Well, you couldn't have that, could you?
		So Y2K, the movie, is going to have to show, well, frankly, the downside possibility of Y2K or else it's not going to be much of a movie.
		I wonder what they're going to do.
		It'll be interesting to find out.
		It's bound to show the possibilities of the downside because that's what would sell a movie.
		You couldn't show the family just waiting for something to happen, you know, with nothing happening.
		Handle that for about 15 minutes, waiting for the other shoe to drop and then get boring, so I'm sure they didn't do that.
		Wildguard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, extinguish your radio and converse.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The CIA and President Clinton haven't tried to kill you, have they?
unidentified		Not yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now that's one less in the body count.
unidentified		I'm prepared.
		All right, good.
		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if somebody comes with relief.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now everybody's going to be freaked out when guys with ties knock on the door handing you, you know, words of Jesus.
unidentified		No, I let them all in.
unidentified		If they want me, they can have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I always let them in, too, and I talk to them.
unidentified		I do, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I frustrate them usually.
unidentified		Yeah, I had, well, I won't say what group in, but they come.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know who they are.
		I mean, they wear ties.
		They ride bikes.
		They're very nice.
		And, you know, usually they can finally give up on me and say, well, please take this and read it, and we'll see you later.
unidentified		I know.
		Well, I've already ordered both of the videos they have on the TV and the Bible and all that to see it.
		People are curious.
		Yeah, good.
		But I say, well, before you start your questions, this is what I want to know.
		And their mouths drop open.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		And they have no answers for it.
unidentified		But anyway, what I want to discuss on the art bell, Monday Night Reruns Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Unfortunately, I woke up at a quarter to three, and I heard from the last week, You know, Rodney with Everett he caught?
		Yes.
		Okay, and you said something about, well, I missed that part on Monday night and Tuesday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you want to know?
unidentified		Okay, okay.
unidentified		He sent you a picture, supposedly, of you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he never did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was supposed to send me a picture of the lash-up of the bug zappers, but he never did that.
unidentified		He never did that?
		No.
		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean that didn't happen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He just may have decided not to do that.
unidentified		Oh, no, I believe him.
unidentified		I mean, why not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was a very interesting story, and it may or may not be true.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it sure did sound true at the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember his throwing the portable phone into the phone.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And his wife channeling and all that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And so nothing, so Rodney's disappeared, right?
unidentified		Maybe the government got him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I never had any such information.
		Rodney is probably still out there.
		Rodney, if you're out there, what the heck?
		Fax us.
		Give us an update.
unidentified		Yeah, something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay, enjoy you much, Art.
		Still listening and passing the word around.
		Many do listen to you here in La Crosse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		La Crosse, Wisconsin.
unidentified		You've got it.
unidentified		Wisdom 1410, A.M. on the dial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is La Crosse famous for?
unidentified		Clarify that for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is La Crosse famous for?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there must be something special about La Crosse.
unidentified		Well, I'm against it, that everything's beer, beer, beer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Beer, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, and cheeseheads.
unidentified		See, I'm from California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't you be insulting cheese heads.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big fan, you know.
unidentified		Oh, I know that.
unidentified		I'm for the Packers all the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you've got to be for beer, too.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		No, I have to be afraid of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you be for the Packers and not be for beer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or even be for football and not be for beers?
unidentified		Because if I have one beer, I will continue on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		See, a little bit of a problem there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I fully understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now I guess you've got this lady dialing like crazy up north.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Talk to you later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, all right.
		It's Vince in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Vince.
unidentified		It's been a long time.
		I used to be from Chicago.
		I used to talk to you quite a bit.
		Yes.
		You know, there's some new things that are popping up about the John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash that...
		Well, there's a tape of a Boston TV station.
		They go on and they're talking about John F. Kennedy Jr. making radio contact with the airport just before his crash.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I heard some rumors about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what did he purportedly say?
unidentified		Well, now the Boston TV station is denying that they ever made that report, but it's on tape.
		There is a tape.
		William Cooper, author of Behold the Pale Horse, played the tape on his shortwave radio station tonight.
		And what did it say?
		Well, they didn't say what John F. Kennedy said to the airport, but it's funny that the Boston TV station now denies that they ever made the report.
		Come on, don't make me beg here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was the essence of the tape?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you hear?
unidentified		Well, they were going, the TV reporters at this Boston TV station were going on about this radio contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When Cooper, the shortwave guy, played this on the air, what did you hear?
unidentified		It was just the TV station in Boston talking about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, they didn't play the tape.
unidentified		No, but they swept it under the rug, and they were going on and on about this radio contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that proves absolutely nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unless you heard the tape of the radio contact, which is what I thought you just said Cooper played, then there's nothing.
unidentified		But I think there's a lot of strange things.
		You know, somebody had planted a transponder away from the plane crash.
		There was a transponder in the ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was, they did pick up a short transmission of a transponder of some sort, but they thought it was on land.
unidentified		And this had delayed, you know, the searchers for the plane crash for quite a while.
		Yeah.
		And well, you know, William Cooper claims that Cooper claims a lot of stuff.
		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too much for my taste.
unidentified		But he claims that an investigator that saw the plane wreckage came forward to him a couple of weeks after this investigator saw the wreckage of the plane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And he says that it shows evidence of a bomb in the tail section, a barometer bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		Well, there would take a lot of things to prove that.
		You'd have to have samples that have been, you know, that have gone through the lab that show traces of the explosive and everything else.
		And I take it, Mr. Cooper, did not have this man on the air to.
unidentified		No, he didn't go into detail.
		But Art, isn't it funny how they buried at sea, John F. Kennedy Jr. and his wife and his sister-in-law within 24 hours after they found their bodies?
		That's kind of strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess it goes, I appreciate you call by the wishes of the family.
		I think that's what they wanted to have done.
		No, I think it was a plane crash.
		I think he was a young student with some experience, but you know, there's a lot of indication that this was nothing more than a pilot error.
		A pilot error.
		But if the name Kennedy is attached to it, it can never, you know Occam's razor, right?
		About Occam's razor?
		Usually, the simplest, most apparent solution is the correct one.
		But if the name is Kennedy, you never reach for Occam's Razor.
		You reach way beyond.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is Wade in Tacoma.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
unidentified		Good.
		Glad to hear it.
		I was wondering if you've ever heard back from Beats the Alternative.
		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said it beats the alternatives.
unidentified		Yeah, that's for sure.
		Like my alternative today.
		I got to go to the dentist, so I'm sure you're doing a lot better than I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going to Dr. William Woods.
		Yes, go ahead.
		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Sorry, yeah.
		Dr. Woods, is that his name that was up here in Seattle?
		Have you heard back from him at all or anything about that story recently?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you referring to the alien in the freezer story?
unidentified		That would be the one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I've heard recently.
		Yes.
		There will be a follow-up pretty soon.
		They're going to be coming on the air with some more details that we have not heard yet.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		You know, I kind of had a theory about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And?
unidentified		Wasn't he like a psychologist?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he was.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		I was kind of thinking, I was wondering if he was just kind of maybe doing an extra credit assignment or something like that.
		I remember he was...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an awful lot to go through for an assignment.
unidentified		Has any of that been verified at all?
		Yep.
		As far as really?
		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That part of it, sure.
unidentified		Huh.
unidentified		So how soon do you believe you're going to have him back on the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they said they would call me, and the communication was about a month ago, and they said that soon there would be a reason to come back on the air and update that story.
		And I am going to update it.
		You know, a lot of people think it's BS.
		It might be.
		Or it might be true.
		I don't know.
		But it's a hell of a story, and it's fun.
		And so we will have them back on the air and investigate as best we can.
		I call it the Alien in the Freezer story.
		And no matter what you think of it, it was told with conviction, detail, and sounded true.
		That's what you would have to say of it.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
		Hello.
		Hello, this is Jeff.
		I'm just south of Columbus, Ohio, now on the road.
		Okay.
		Yeah, pleasure to talk to you.
		Hey, wasn't it Major Ed Dames that you talked to a while back that said he remote viewed Amelia Earhart's airplane and they were supposed to go find it in March?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he still maintains the aircraft is located in the water at the same place, but he does not have the funding nor the time to go and check it out himself.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what he had wanted to do, but he hasn't done that yet.
		You know, it takes a lot of money.
		You've got to mount an expedition to do that kind of thing.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, I was just wondering about that.
		Hey, one of these days, I'm going to send the facts to you with my phone number.
		I live not too far from Asheville, North Carolina.
		If you're ever in the area, get a hold of me.
		I'll take you out to dinner.
		Well, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's where my mom is in Asheville, North Carolina.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
unidentified		My mom lives there, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you for the law, sir, and take care.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Ert.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		This is Pamela in Seattle.
unidentified		Hello, Pamela.
unidentified		Hi, I've got four gallons of Applejack brewing in my kitchen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Because I make vinegar out of it.
unidentified		And you know, I don't know why people drink beer because Applejack's really the stuff.
		Oh.
		It is.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're treading right on the edge.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh, see, I don't understand.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		This is the 17th time I've called you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's going to be the 17th time your call's been cut short if you go in the wrong direction.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know what direction that means.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that means to the right, to the east of the Rockies line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have hum on your audio, sir.
unidentified		I'm sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hum?
unidentified		Hum.
		Yeah.
		I think it was my radio.
		I've turned it off now, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not the radio.
unidentified		Oh, now it's air conditioning, maybe.
unidentified		I talked to you already.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now it's fixed.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, good.
		I actually have about a three-minute story to tell you, if I can.
		And it actually comes to mind, it's a true story.
		And the other day, before I went to bed here in Atlanta, I heard you talking about something in regards to propelling objects through the air using magnetics as far as propulsion and not using a thrust.
		Right.
		Basically, my father encountered an engineer who was developing this technology.
		And my father had a company that was in Minneapolis.
		He used to work for Control Data, which is a big superpower.
		And he used to be making computer, I'm sorry, supercomputers along with Cray.
		In 1992, he got laid off and started his own company.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, sir, let me quickly interject.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cray computers go for about $10 million a piece.
unidentified		Ah, yeah, they're very expensive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very expensive.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Well, in fact, the company that he started was called Superpower, and one of the products that they created was actually the power supply system for some of the smaller Cray computers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you on a portable phone?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're near something with great magnetic output because every time you get close to it, like maybe a lamp or some sort of computer, you're close to something, and I can hear you go back and forth, and now it's clear.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you get near something, and it hums.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we don't have a lot of time, so get the last of it out.
unidentified		Okay.
		In his office, the gentleman next to his office was an engineer.
		He used to work for Los Alamos National Laboratories.
		And my father came to work on a Saturday, and he had these two poles set up across the parking lot.
		And my dad never met the guy next to his office, and this guy next to him went to demonstrate this disc that my father said was about 20 pounds.
		He just let go of the disc, and the thing went flying across the parking lot with nothing at all.
		And the gentleman said that this technology that he was experimenting was from the UFO technology because he used to work for the government, and he was on a team with five other engineers doing reverse engineering on a UFO project.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		All right.
		Well, we'll have to hold it right there.
		And if you have photographs, be sure and send them to me, all right?
		But personally, until I see, I don't believe.
		not a million years.
unidentified		All of them all in the night waiting for you to come on and go.
		It's just a desperate need.
		Waiting for you to come with me.
		I am a million years, why it's a million miles, why a million years?
		When the people see why the highest hills just can't near me.
		I am a million years, why it's a million miles away.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of murmuries there.
		Good morning, everybody.
		Well, Kevin in Tampa, Florida, who's been faxing me for a long time, tells me the news is now announcing that a tropical storm named Irene is headed toward Cuba.
		The track should have continued this way.
		It shows it passing through Tampa sometime on Saturday.
		Ask me, says Kevin, if I believe them anymore.
		Well, they've got to warn you, Kevin.
		It's away it goes.
		They've got to warn you.
		Coming up in a moment, we've got Dr. Ellen Crystal, or is it Christoph?
		We'll find out.
		She wrote a book called Silent Invasion, the courageous true story of one woman's encounters with aliens.
		That's right.
		Encounters with aliens.
		Now, her doctorate is in music, but she has had some very serious encounters, close enough to a UFO to actually touch the thing.
		So that's coming up.
		What happens if the 1st of January gets here and nothing happens?
		We were wondering about that a little while ago.
		There is a movie coming out called Y2K, the movie.
		It's going to be on NBC, I guess.
		And I guess they're going to have to go for the downside of Y2K because otherwise it's not going to be a very interesting movie, is it?
		If they show absolutely nothing happening.
		What do you think they'll show?
		Do you think they'll show financial collapse?
		All services stopping, the electricity going off?
		Do you think they'll go for the real drama?
		Or do you think they've written it?
		Well, storable food is a good idea, if you believe in any of the drama as a possibility.
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unidentified		Listen to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		5% of the U.S. population has stored food.
		5%.
		The Gallup survey says 40% of the people intend to do that by year's end now.
		That mathematically means that for every 10 people being supplied with storable food by the present distribution of the system, 1,200 would be lined up behind each 10 who would not get food.
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unidentified		Do it.
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unidentified		With so many vitamin C's out there, my patients often ask me which one I recommend.
		Dr. Ronald Hoffman, physician and nutritionist.
		When it comes to vitamin C, the answer is simple.
		I recommend ester C. Vitamin C helps maintain bones, cartilage, teeth, and gums, and ester C is a premium vitamin C. It's the only one that's patented, gentle on your stomach, and goes to work immediately.
		I tell my patients, the best thing to do is make sure your vitamin C says ester C on the label.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		natural ester c make sure it's in your vitamin and skin care products The book is The Silent Invasion, or simply Silent Invasion, actually.
		The shocking discoveries of a UFO researcher.
		And these involve sightings in New York.
		You may have heard of the pine bush area of New York.
		Very, very active.
		Well, Dr. Ellen, is it crystal or crystal?
unidentified		Crystal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Crystal!
		Good, all right.
		I see.
		Anyway, you've been photographing, it says UFOs since 1971, and you have 2,000 photographs.
		2,000 photographs of UFOs?
		Is that right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of UFOs for any...
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, where to begin with all of this?
		Obviously, you're really on the, you're part of the in-ground here in some way or another.
		You've had very close contact, I guess, and I don't know where to begin with you, so you tell me, where did it begin for you?
unidentified		Okay.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It begins.
		Well, in 1971, I went out to California just to have some fun with a friend.
		And the first day we were out there, we found an apartment in Hollywood, like two blocks from Hollywood and Vine.
		And the first day, we were told there were UFOs circling the night sky.
		So I said, show me.
		What do I know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Hollywood?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		In Hollywood.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it you went to Hollywood to pursue your music career or something or another?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I was young.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		We just went for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		California dreaming, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
		Nice weather.
		No particular reason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful, whatever.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you were told there were UFOs circling the Hollywood area nearly nightly, huh?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, that's what we were told.
		So I said, show me.
		So the first night, people in this apartment complex showed us things in the sky, and I said, okay, there are lights in the sky.
		There's also airplanes.
		You know, it was too far.
		But over the next few weeks and ultimately a few months, the lights became bigger and bigger.
		And all of a sudden, it was a transition from lights to all of a sudden craft.
		And it was closed.
		It was close enough to see what it was.
		And at that time, it was flying saucers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Ellen, Hollywood is a really populated area.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, it may be the people in Hollywood are somewhat jaded.
		And it could be that a UFO would fly over, and they'd all think, ah, nothing but a movie promotion.
		I don't know.
		That's the only thing.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, this was your typical alien encounter where they targeted specific people.
		And after my book came out, I got quite a few letters from the Hollywood and Los Angeles area from people saying that they saw ships in 1971, like the early 1970s.
		So I said, well, I mean, everybody had to be seeing them, and apparently a lot of people were.
		I mean, because I had letters after my book came out, so I knew we weren't the only ones seeing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I have heard of that flap.
		I've heard various reports of Hollywood in past years.
		But again, people in Hollywood are so jaded in most ways that...
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Not 100% of the residents have seen what's there, and some of them don't believe it, although everybody's heard stories.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of residents have seen what's been there for quite a number of years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen, I've heard the stories about Pine Bush ever since I've been looking into ufology.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Have you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why is that such a hotspot?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, now we sort of jumped here to the ships have been doing something or the aliens.
		And the thing is, people say, how do you know it's not our government?
		Well, I've seen the aliens.
		So I saw the aliens in California, and I saw them.
		I saw the aliens in California inside the craft, and I saw the aliens in Pinebush inside the craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is absolutely excellent.
		I've seen two UFOs and no aliens.
		So I guess let's begin there.
		When you were in Hollywood, I mean, it's one thing to see a light in the sky.
		It's another to see a ship.
		But boy, it's a big jump to seeing an alien.
unidentified		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I don't make these comments lightly.
		I mean, something always gets lost in the translation where the skeptics say, oh, God, you know, here's another delusional whatever.
		But what I did, which I'm so glad I did, and I keep encouraging people to this day, when you see something or you're going to go out into, you know, and look at night, take a camera, take a video.
		In 1971, I took my camera and I went up to a hill with this friend of mine because we wanted to see these things closer.
		And when we got up on the hill, the sorcery came in and I took a bunch of pictures and we were up there two different nights and I took pictures and I still have the pictures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are the pictures?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got them now.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I have the pictures.
		They weren't put.
		Did you get a copy of the book, by the way?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got a copy of the book, but I got the trade version.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've got a feeling that it doesn't have all of the photographs in it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But you got the little paperback.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, St. Martin's actually left out the illustrations, which really make it clear what I was talking about as far as shapes of craft, because there are a number of different shapes.
		And when you say triangle craft, people don't, they kind of know what you mean, but that's one thing that St. Martins took out.
		I realized after the edition came out, because the author has no control.
		They took out the illustrations, which made it more clear exactly what kind of craft I was talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Illustrations or?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Illustrations that went with the photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the photographs were also in there?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, the photographs are in here, but they, for some reason, the publishers I've dealt with don't understand how important it is to put these photographs in color.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now what the hell is the matter with St. Martin?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I fought with everybody on this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it is expensive to put in photographs, and color photographs even more so.
unidentified		But it's important to your story.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Because people want to see what you're talking about.
		They want to take your word for it and, you know, like I am, show me.
		And when you can't see in a photograph, it's annoying.
		And what I ultimately did, because so many people asked me, aside from doing presentations where I put my photos in slide form, then everybody can see clearly the nice, clear color pictures, I made some of the photographs available for sale because there was no, just no, because people were asking me for photos and I said, what am I going to do?
		So I matted them real nice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tempt me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What exactly, describe in words how much detail is in the photograph or photographs?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		There's extensive detail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much detail?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have two photographs of five aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a lot of detail.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Now, the thing is, there's a lot going on in the photos.
		So it's not like here's an alien in a field in the sunshine waving and smiling.
		It doesn't work that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Describe at least want your best photograph to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Describe it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, best, you know, is all in the eye of the beholder.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, right now we're depending on you as the beholder as well as the photography.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		Well, I'll describe the two alien photographs.
		I'll describe the circumstances of how they came to be.
		In 1980, I found out about a town called Pine Bush, New York.
		I actually met a man called Harry Revelson who was working at Omni magazine at that time.
		And he knew about this town of Pine Bush.
		So I went with him and we met a couple in Pine Bush.
		And they said, we'll take you to the field where the ships land, and that's it.
		And I said, well, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll take you out there and then you're on your own.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, but their terminology was where the ships land.
		So I said, show me where the ships are landing.
		And so they took us to the center of town, a farm town.
		And we got out of the car at 10 p.m. at night and were instantly surrounded by at least 20 triangle craft.
		And we could see them all clearly.
		They were silent.
		I snapped away with my camera.
		Harry had a Leica.
		Mary passed away a few years ago, unfortunately, so it happens when she...
		Well, the longer you live, the more people around you die, you find out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'm already finding that out.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's sad, you know, because up until a point, you know, if you're lucky, nobody dies, and all of a sudden, people start to die.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's inevitable.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So anyway, we staffed away and about a week later, I guess I took about 10 photographs that night.
		About a week later, now this was 1980, I took my film to a mass processing, like PhotoMat, I think it was at that time.
		It takes a week to get it back.
		In The meantime, we were still going up there taking pictures.
		And when I got my film back, I saw all these bright sprays of color on my film.
		And we're looking at my film saying, where are the ships?
		This isn't what we saw.
unidentified		I mean, we saw clear ships.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It took about a year for me to decipher the photos, but it was ongoing.
		So little by little, we sort of pieced together the photos.
		And I realized that the ships must have been doing something for the film to pick up what we didn't see.
		So I had to do the research.
		I mean, I went into the science books because I had no guide.
		And in the process, about a year after I took the photos, and everybody was looking at the photos because so many people were interested.
		And people started saying to me, you know, you have like figures in these photos.
		I said, no, what are you talking about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so it's not interpretive then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you've got to look and look and look at it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		You need a guide.
		See, I had nothing.
		I mean, I had no clue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were taking pictures of ships you thought.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what you got is sort of an interpretive picture.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's not interpretive, though.
		I just, I guess it's hard to describe without seeing it.
		The ships are releasing shortwave radiation.
		Now, this took me a few years to come up with because I had to do a lot of research.
		I went and talked to, I think, every scientist in New York.
		I mean, at the time, I was, I had taken my, well, I was in Rutgers and also had gotten my master's at Montclair and was still in photography and a mixture of sciences.
		And I was showing my photographs to everybody and trying to get some feedback on what would cause all these images.
		And I actually found people in the field of scientific photography who kind of knew where I was coming from with these photos.
		And they started telling me about shortwave radiation.
		That film is sensitive to the short wavelengths.
		So our eyes can only see a certain portion of the spectrum.
		Film, as it turns out, can see the short wavelengths, which we can't see, like the ultraviolet and X-ray.
		So the film, if some source is giving off ultraviolet emissions, the film will pick it up, but we won't have seen it.
		And it will see the craft.
		And if, say, the aliens are trying to either camouflage themselves in some manner or it's maybe a byproduct of something they're doing, if they're giving off these emissions, the film will pick it up, but we wouldn't have known that.
		And that's been the problem with all UFO photographs from day one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but there are some extremely clear UFO photographs.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You have to be very careful with the clear photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, you actually have to be careful, to be frank with you, with all photographs.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		With all photographs.
		That's right.
		It's not.
		Well, when we realized what was going on in the photographs, because Harry was at Omni, a lot of people were sending him photographs and he would meet with people.
		And we started to look at other people's photographs.
		And in all the photographs that we saw that were real, they all had some kind of ultraviolet emissions or some other shortwave emission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that might make sense.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Someplace in the photo, it appears that this emission moves around like it's sprayed, so it's not the same in every photo.
		But once you know what's happening, you start to see it, and it's usually bluish because ultraviolet is blue.
		So it tends to be bluish in the photo.
		But it's not, you know, it's like most people, if they take a photo of a UFO, it's like one photo or a couple photos, although a lot of people are starting to get more of a collection like I have because they sort of get the gist of how to go, like, get in the center of the UFO hotspots and take a lot of pictures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hold it right there for a moment, Ellen, and we'll be right back.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Ellen Crystal is here.
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unidentified		She's back in New York.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It feels single, as I listen to that commercial, I have interviewed every single one of those people.
		Once again, here is UFO researcher Dr. Ellen Crystal.
		All right, Doctor, so you've got 2,000 photographs.
		Some of them, it took you a long while to figure out, but surely some of them are clear photographs or relatively clear.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		They're clear.
		Well, the thing is, clear is kind of an adjective that people have different ideas as to what is clear.
		I mean, all of my pictures are very clear and sharp pictures.
		You still have to look at them, which is why I provide tracings in the book, because I was coming from ground zero, essentially, with any guide to tell me what the heck was going on in these pictures because of these shortwave emissions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, to me, that makes them rather interpretive.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not interpretive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, Ellen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just a lay type person who looks at a photograph and says, hmm, that looks like a UFO, a disk or a UFO.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Or it doesn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, it's not halfway there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not like if I close my eyes and I look at that shape, I might think it's this, you know?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		It would be if you take a photograph of a person from a distance in a forest.
		Yes.
		I'm thinking off the top of my head of an analogy.
		Okay.
		If nobody told you there was a person there, say it was a redwood forest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would not see the person until you looked at the point where they showed you.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And that's what you have here.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And sometimes you may not see the person, may not realize there's a person in the photograph because you're looking at the nice trees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In your book, you say you've been close enough to a UFO to touch it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, tell me about that.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		When?
		Well, several times in Pine Bush, in California, actually, the event that sent me home, I couldn't touch it, but it came within about 15 feet of me.
		And the next day I flew back to New Jersey.
unidentified		I said it was.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in Pine Bush now, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm actually in the Poconos of Pennsylvania right now.
unidentified		All right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I'm about an hour from Pine Bush.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How close did you get to a UFO in Pine Bush?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I said, I was basically touching distance, but I didn't touch because nobody was telling me that if I touched it, I wouldn't get my hand burnt or eventually get cancer of the hand or, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wouldn't likely touch a UFO.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, the thing is, when it gets close, you realize it's a machine, and it's a very sophisticated machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was this thing on the ground or in the air?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Well, this one particular incident, which I talk about in the book.
		There's a specific central area in Pine Bush and several other towns actually.
		And if people want to look at the map, it's a middletown New York area basically that I'm talking about.
		It's lower New York State and everybody knew to drive in circles around the area because the ships were actually touching down on the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the one that you were near, I'm asking again, was it in the air or on the ground?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It was in the air.
		I was coming down, driving down a road and I saw a light coming towards me, kind of.
		So I pulled over and stopped.
		And I had a camera around my neck.
		I got out of the car.
		I was using, this was in 1986.
		I always used a tape recorder to talk into and get everybody's comments and whatnot.
		So I saw this light coming, and it was just a nebulous light.
		And I had the car stop, and I put the tape recorder on the hood of my car.
		And because there's no predictability in a sense of you don't know what's going to happen.
		So I'm just standing there, and all of a sudden, this light is suddenly a craft.
		And this was one of the illustrations which they actually, in the St. Lawrence edition, they took out.
		It was like a small boomerang.
		It was about 15 feet wide.
		It had a central geogesic type of dome.
		It had two sort of paddle type of flat wings which swiveled on there.
		It didn't look anything like the stereotypical craft.
		And it came towards me and simply stopped above me in the car and I could have touched it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was hovering?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It was hovering.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And I couldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would you say it was made out of if you were?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, it was metal.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		There was no question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was bright, shiny metal, black metal.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It was partly black metal, partly silver.
		And the lights on it, I mean, anybody, I'm sure there's a lot of your audience that has had close encounters with craft.
		A lot of people don't want to talk about it because it sounds absurd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is what I want to hear.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Have a field day with this because they're saying it doesn't exist.
		And so, like, you're looking at the thing on, I mean, in my experience, I can look at it even in the experience.
		And half of me is saying, but the skeptics are saying this doesn't exist.
		Well, if it doesn't exist, what am I looking at?
		So I couldn't lean over to even pick up my tape recorder because it was too close to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were probably frozen like a deer in the headlights.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing is, this was 1986.
		Pinebush had started for me in 1980.
		The longer we did it, the more we got annoyed with these guys because we wanted them to throw us a souvenir or something, you know, something nice and an alien, you know, working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alien keychain ring, something?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, a t-shirt.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So what I did at that point, I got so annoyed, and this was the only time I ever did this, I proceeded to scream at it, he, she, whoever was in this thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You yelled at a UFO?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I yelled at it.
		At this point, because it, you know, there was no conversation.
		I mean, they didn't, nobody like rolled down a window and say, hey, how you doing?
		Just passing by.
		You know, it was a silent treatment.
		You can look.
		The whole thing with UFOs basically is look but don't touch.
		Now, the abduction thing is a whole, that's a whole different thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll get to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it sounds like something my wife would do, scream at a UFO.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So I proceeded to yell at it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you repeat what you said?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, basically, yeah, I said, what are you doing?
		Why are you doing it this way?
		Why don't you talk to anybody?
		This is not the way you do things.
		You know, give us something tangible.
		We want to know more information.
		You know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So did it sit there and quiver?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		The aliens have us pegged with fear.
		They know exactly what to do to really push our buttons.
		What it did, no comment.
		I mean, nobody rolled down a window.
		It took one of those wings and swiveled it and fanned it over me in the car.
		And I scrolled.
		I mean, it was such like, you know, a basic thing to do.
		And I mean, it shut me right up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		Yep, I understand.
		You are the first person, Doctor, who has screamed at a UFO.
		You're the first.
		I've actually had somebody who hit an alien, gave it a good right hook, and it went down like a house of cards.
		But nobody has ever yelled at a UFO in anger.
		And so that's pretty good.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And gotten a response.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And had a response, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now, if you had continued to yell, I wonder if it would have, like a whale or something, swatted you with its tail.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, our joke was that the aliens turned the sound off and just watch our lips move.
		So we could say whatever we wanted to them, and they didn't hear a thing.
		They'd say, aha, look at them, look at that.
		You know, they'd make jokes about everybody who was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but maybe they recognize tones of voice, you know, like animals do?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I think they recognized exactly the words me and everybody else were saying to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they were not kind words.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, we sometimes had kind words.
		It's a very confusing situation because they're not talking to anybody.
		It's all one way.
		I mean, we have to second guess everything.
		And this is the way I operated and got all my photographs and was able to lead like 25 people into a farm field and suddenly watch a ship put on all its lights and take off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, they did, by the way, put the photographs you've got of the lights at Pine Bush in This book, and they're kind of intriguing.
		There's no question.
		And I heard all these stories over the years about Pine Bush and a lot going on there.
		How frequently was this occurring when you were there?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		When the ships were there, this was nightly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nightly.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Every single night.
		Now, some nights were better than others.
		So I always, I mean, thousands of people, like throughout the 1980s, were going up there.
		And after my book came out, it was even worse.
		I mean, people were just lining every road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it your book, Doctor, that began the public aspect of Pinebush?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Not it got into a bigger aspect.
		Actually, it became out of control after my book came out.
		But in the around, let's see, 1980, I started in Pinebush.
		The ships actually left the area.
		We noticed the activity dropping off the end of 1980, 1981.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think it's because you yelled at them?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't yell at them at that point.
		It took me a few years to get up the nerve to yell at them.
		In 1984, the ships actually returned full force to Pine Bush.
		And Harry at that time had moved to Florida, so he wasn't even around.
		So I thought, I don't want to see this stuff myself.
		I was living in New Jersey.
		I don't want to drive every night myself.
		So why don't I put a name in the paper and advertise?
		But, you know, if anybody wants to see UFOs in lower New York State, they can get in touch with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you actually began to conduct tours?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I conducted tours in the late 80s.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Early on, I actually wanted colleagues and people just to be friendly with whoever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm sort of curious.
		When you would get the group of people together, 20 or 30 people, however many, and how would you prepare them for the night?
		What would you say to them?
		Now, look, you're going to have to remain very quiet and very silent, or did you tell them how to behave or what to worry about or what to do?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I basically told them what it was.
		I said, we're going to be walking through farm fields.
		You have to wear appropriate clothing, depending.
		I mean, we did this four seasons, winter and summer.
		Gotcha.
		I mean, in 10-degree weather, we were out crunching on snow chasing after these things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's devotion.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So I just told people that were.
		And the thing is, once I started to advertise, I had no idea who was answering, you know, and who I was taking up there.
		I mean, eventually I made friends, which I still have.
		I mean, I made lifelong friends through this.
		But I would tell people, it's very dark.
		You know, it's a farm field at night.
		Bring a flashlight.
		Wear appropriate clothing.
		In the summer, if you need bug spray, I don't get bitten by mosquitoes.
		So I never have bug spray.
		and I forget.
		So that was one thing I always made a point to tell people.
		In the winter, Well, you know, that issue never came up until the late 80s when I realized that people worked actually on police forces and had guns in cars.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And then I, you know, it never occurred to me because.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you shouted at a UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if you shot at a UFO.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I think, yeah, I think the reaction would not have been good for the person who was doing the shooting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably not, yeah, probably not.
		During the movie Independence Day, you recall, they were actually running ads on radio and television saying, do not shoot at the UFOs.
		Remember Independence Day?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Oh, in the movie?
		Yeah.
unidentified		Do not remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they did.
		They said, don't shoot at the UFOs.
		People were shooting at them.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's, I mean, you know, all the old science fiction, that's the first thing anybody does is shoot at them.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's terrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And many people think that even our government is shooting at them.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what we do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if there's something up there we don't understand.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		We shoot at it.
unidentified		We shoot at it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's great, great welcome.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, somebody comes from God knows where and you shoot at it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, kill them now and sort them out later.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that shows the great intelligence of the human race.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		If you don't understand it, shoot it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you saw aliens.
		You actually saw alien creatures.
		So what do they look like?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		But I saw one in California up close and one in Pine Bush up close, and there were several incidents in Pine Bush where...
		About roughly three and a half, four feet tall, very thin.
		Beige skin, not gray.
		Beige skin.
unidentified		Beige.
unidentified		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Beige skin.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Beige, like a pale white.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, I'm sort of beige.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, but like whiter and paler, like a sickly beige.
		Okay.
		Big eyes that wrapped around to the ear.
		When I saw what I saw in 1980 in Pine Bush, what I saw with the aliens, the alien did not have black eyes.
		Nobody saw black eyes, as far as I know, until Whitley Striever started talking about black eyes.
		Everybody was seeing very large yellow type of eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't like yellow eyes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, they were very interesting, very scary, and very alive.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the most intriguing thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yellow eyes and red eyes are bad.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, the yellow eye, red eyes gets into a different connotation, too Hollywood-ish.
		The yellow eyes were a complete surprise.
		And the fact that the actual eye wrapped around to the ear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a lot of eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've got you.
unidentified		That's a lot of eyes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And the thing that got me, I mean, I talk about these being either robotic or manufactured, whatever.
		What I saw, I mean, with these eyes, they were alive.
		I mean, they blinked.
		You know, I could see, you could just see the emotion coming from the eye.
		They were very strange.
unidentified		Not for a lot of eyes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did they have a nose?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		barely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So a little nose with eyes that wrapped all the way around to the ears.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, when you think about it, that's a rather efficient eye.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Extremely for anything nocturnal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Compared to us.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, even during the day, I mean, for example, check it out.
		How far to the right or the left can you really look?
		Not very far, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Not that far.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you had an eye that wrapped all the way around to your ear, you'd have easily double vision or better.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So that's why some of the scientists, even early on, felt that these small, big-eyed pieces.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're at the top of the hour, so we've got to pause here.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
unidentified		I like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		eyes that go all the way around to the ears, if only.
unidentified		One Sunday, you look at me, and you will know I'm a love meant to be.
unidentified		One Sunday, you're gonna want me, but you'll burn me, but you'll burn me, but you'll burn me, your arms are gone, you'll open wide, And you'll be proud to have me But I'm gonna fly One Monday Your mama wants me for your girl Thank you.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		She's satisfied.
unidentified		I am one satisfied woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, we should save that tape and use it as a promo.
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		Do you know which of these containers can be recycled over and over again?
		Here's the answer to today's EcoQuiz.
		If you said steel food cans, you're right.
		They not only can be recycled, they can be recycled over and over again, saving substantial amounts of energy and natural resources.
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		Did you know that one ton of new paper made from the newspapers you drop off at curbside recycling programs saves enough energy to heat your house for a half year?
		So recycle and buy recycled.
		It can help us all.
		This is Tricia Yearwood on EcoQuiz.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		EcoQuiz is a public service of the National Recycling Coalition and the Steel Recycling Institute for a more environmentally conscious America.
unidentified		Daddy, I can't sleep.
		Could you please read me a story?
		Daddy, get up in a couple of hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ask Mommy.
unidentified		Mommy?
		Huh?
		Could Daddy please read me a story?
		Family, isn't it about time and the little thing?
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		You could never cheat on an alien with eyes all the way around there.
unidentified		Bob and I. Can't help but be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Especially stealth eyes.
		Yellow eyes.
		Yellow stealth eyes.
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		She has had any number of alien encounters.
		She has 2,000 photographs, and she's been close enough to touch a ship.
		She has seen alien creatures, and when we closed the hour, we were describing what they look like.
		They have big yellow eyes that go all the way around to their ears.
unidentified		think about it.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, Dr. Ellen Crystal, and on the front of her book, Silent Invasion, one of the versions anyway, they have a picture of the alien with the eye.
		And the eye is, as she said, almost from no nose.
		Both eyes go all the way back to where your ears would be.
		It's the ugliest damn eye you ever saw.
		And the pupil is not a normal pupil.
		It is a vertical pupil.
		That's an ugly eye.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's different.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just flat ugly.
		I mean, for human beings to consider.
		So when you saw something like that, and is that a roughly accurate portrayal of what you saw?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's not exact.
		It's not, I guess, close, kind of.
		But it, you know, it was an artistic, subjective illustration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they messed with it a little.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But basically, was the eye like that?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't tilted.
		It wasn't tilted up.
		It was more horizontal.
		Right.
		Right.
unidentified		But the pupil was thin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Now, when you're that close to an alien being, what happens?
		Well, you freak out sure, but I mean, is there some sort of mental communication that goes on?
		Does it reach out like in close encounters with a couple of fingers to you, or what does it do?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll explain the scenario.
		This was the first night in Pine Bush that I had gone myself.
		All the other times I was with a lot of people.
		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't like crowds.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, they like, see, that's a misnomer.
		They do like crowds provided they have the control.
		If it's the right crowd of people, I mean, in Pine Bush, there are just like dozens and dozens of multiple witness sightings of closed craft.
		So they like crowds provided it's extremely controlled for them.
		You know, where they target a group of people.
unidentified		Sure.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I use the term loosely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where they demonstrate for you.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay, demonstrate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Targeting a certain military conversation.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, you were alone.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's the alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take it the alien emerged from the ship or it was just there.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, what had happened is I made, first of all, all my friends thought I was going to be abducted because I wanted to tell myself to experiment.
		I didn't know what else to do because we're always trying to provoke reactions.
		So everybody thought I would be abducted and I figured, no, no, no.
unidentified		Did you want to be abducted?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, if I'm totally awake and I have some control, if I have no control, they can keep it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's ridiculous to just abduct people when, you know, they have no control.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So is my feeling too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probes, needles.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't want that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Being strapped down, all that kind of stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So my only stipulation is I wouldn't walk in a field that I hadn't already walked in because there are surprise little creeks and barbed wire and just earthly things that you trip over and break a leg on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Farmers with shotguns?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, not in the, not, usually the farmers go to sleep early.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Usually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but well, anyway.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, we've had a number of situations where they, farmers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they see somebody out there with a bunch of lights marching across their field, and they're not going to take kindly to that.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, after a while, they realize, you know, we weren't going to steal their cows, that we were actually looking at UFOs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet some of them were worried you might be out there mutilating some of their cows.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, there haven't been any mutilations there, Except there was one weird thing that happened long, like years before I got into Pinebush.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember what year it was, either in the early 70s or late 60s, where somebody actually found somebody on like environmental something or other found piles of, I think it was foxes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Piles of foxes?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dead foxes.
		And nobody ever figured out what was going on with that.
		But aside from that, there weren't any reports of any mutilations, which always struck us as it's interesting because we always said, well, you don't mess up your own home because we thought the ships were planted there, so they weren't going to do any destruction to a place that they needed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The full expression, I think, is you don't poop or you eat something.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, always that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so I'm still, I want to know about the electricity.
		It's in front of you.
		And so what does it do?
		And what do you do?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So I get into the first field that I'm familiar with, which we all stood in at the beginning.
		And I'm looking around and I happen to turn around.
		I see a craft fully lit go right down in a place that I haven't walked.
		Now this was my one stipulation.
		So I'm thinking, you know, they're already calling my bluff.
		So I thought about it for a while.
		And I mean, it's pitch black.
		Anybody that knows the country at night knows how dark it is.
		Very dark.
		And I'm used to it, but it's still dark.
		I mean, you just can't see, even if you have lights around.
		So I see this thing go down, so I said, oh, great.
		Now what do I do?
		I mean, it clearly went down.
		So I thought about it, I said, well, I'll just walk over.
		It was across the street, so I walked back to my car, and I said, no, I'm too nervous to do this.
		So I drove around for a while, but I never saw the ship come up.
		So a couple hours later, I said, well, let me go back over there and see what it's doing.
		So then I thought, you know what?
		I'll roll down my passenger window and shine my flashlight out of the window.
		I'll go like one mile an hour.
		And if the flashlight shines on some metal, you know, with the ship, I'll get out and knock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And knock, excuse me, and knock.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Knock.
		This was my plan.
		So, well, I figured, I mean, that's my whole thing is to make some kind of contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you've got to have a plan.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, but this was my plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My knocking is perfectly logical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Unless they had a doorbell and then.
		Anyway, so I came down the street about one mile an hour, and I was shining my flashlight.
		You know, you make stupid jokes like here, shippy, shippy, whatever.
		You know, I'm talking to myself out loud, which everybody tends to do in these situations.
		And I'm shining the flashlight, and I come past some forest, and the flashlight catches on something like fluttery.
		So I'm thinking, oh, it's a moth.
		And I'm shining the flashlight, and I'm looking at the thing, and I was in a little clearing at that point.
		And I'm saying, well, that's not a moth.
		What is that?
		And my foot is on the brake at this point.
		And I'm shining the light.
		And then I happen to see there's something below what I think is a moth.
		So I'm shining the flashlight down, and part of me, it's starting to sink in.
		Well, this thing ran across this little clearing and stopped.
		And when it stopped, my whole flashlight lit this thing, and that's when I saw this basically three and a half foot tall being, it just stood there.
		And what threw me off, and I discussed this at length in the book, is it had a worried look on its face.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A worried look.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		A worried look.
		And it so surprised me that it took away my fear.
		I'm thinking, what worries?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, it's looking worried, so you're feeling relatively, I guess, safe because you're obviously freaking it out.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't figure out what was going on.
		I'm thinking, why is this thing worried?
		I'm worried.
		This thing should not be worried.
unidentified		Oh, I hear you.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I'm trying to analyze it.
		So I, like, the fear is, you know, was lessened because I'm trying to figure out, but this thing is looking worried.
		What the heck is wrong?
		And suddenly I realized I was totally paralyzed with fear.
		I mean, I couldn't even breathe properly.
		And I was trying to talk and nothing was coming out.
		I felt like a fool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the alien was in the same condition.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I mean, but the thing is, if it had gotten out of the craft and walked, it could have just hidden the bush.
		This is why I think everything they do is so planned.
		It could have hidden the bush, and I never would have seen it, would have just driven right on by.
		But when I came to that clearing, it was running across the clearing right in my flashlight, and it stopped.
		It could have kept going.
		I mean, I don't know if I would have followed it into the corner.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it just stood there.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It just stood there with a worried look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, with a worried look.
unidentified		So who moved first?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I kept trying to talk, and I don't know if anybody at all knows, has ever been in a situation where you're frightened out of your wits.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You're totally paralyzed with fear.
unidentified		You can't do anything.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You can't even move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So I'm trying to go, uh-uh, and nothing's coming out.
		And this thing is standing there with this worried look.
		And all of a sudden, I get this immense feeling of power from this thing.
		That this isn't like Tinker Toys now.
		Or, you know, this isn't a child on a playground.
		I mean, I just got this awesome feeling of power.
		No, that it had a power that was much greater than I could ever know.
		And this was not like some kid that you run into, you know.
		And when I felt that, I said, you know what?
		Just floor it and get out of here.
		So I hit the accelerator and drove about a mile to a stop sign.
		And I stopped, and then I got mad at myself because I'm thinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What the hell am I out here for?
		I found it.
		Now I'm running away.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly it.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to make contact, and all of a sudden, you know, I hit the gas.
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a natural reaction, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would have done the same thing.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I had to drive to a parking lot and sit there for, I sat there for at least two hours.
		I could not drive.
		I was, like, totally.
unidentified		So you didn't go back then right away?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I didn't go back there that night at all.
unidentified		Oh.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that was it.
		I mean, I sat in the parking lot, and as I'm sitting, you know, your mind starts to analyze what you've seen versus what the skeptics are saying versus what's supposed to be.
		I mean, I kept.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The skeptics are saying, obviously, you hallucinated all of this.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, it doesn't exist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're saying you hallucinated, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that what they're saying, that you hallucinated?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, that delusions of fantasy or some nonsense.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I come up with some psychological.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're sure it was not that, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		Yeah, I'm sure.
		I mean, I was looking at the thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure or relatively sure?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		I was looking at the thing.
		I'm 100% sure.
		I was wide awake looking at the thing.
unidentified		Okay.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And I had seen the crash go down, and I never expected it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you keep saying go down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could mean crash or land.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, land, land.
		Okay.
		I saw it land.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You actually saw it touch the ground.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I saw it.
		Well, I say go down.
		Well, I say go down because I saw it sink into the trees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Now, whether it actually touched the ground or there's feet above it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got you.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It got low enough for this little guy to hop out.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the thing is, I never expected to see a being.
		I had this plan.
		I was going to see the medal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were going to see what?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		The medal of the craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the medal of the craft.
		Right.
		That's right.
		That's what you said you were looking for at first.
unidentified		Yeah.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I was going to drive one mile an hour and find the medal of the craft and get out and knock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think you would have actually, just out of curiosity, actually have gotten out of the car and knocked?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think at that point, because I had made up my mind that this was my plan.
		So, I mean, I might have, like, knocked with maybe a flashlight.
		I'm very reluctant to say that if I had the chance, would I put my hand on a working piece of alien equipment that is hovering that I know already has given people radiation poisoning in the past?
		I mean, I'm not going to put my hand on it.
		I'll take, you know, a flashlight or something and knock on it.
		But I was going to knock.
		It was still the plan I had.
		I mean, I never in a million years expected to see a being.
		And the whole thing didn't make sense unless the only way I could explain it was that they staged this, that it was deliberate, that this thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They wanted you to see this being.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, from early on in the California days, it was obvious to me that they wanted me to see a whole picture.
		Because they didn't let me leave California.
		Well, the impetus that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm going to give you this.
		Some of the most serious researchers into ufology today, and I know some really serious ones, all believe that what's going on right now are, in fact, demonstrations.
		Whether it's craft that are seen or dimensional portals or even alien beings, all of it is demonstration for us.
		But, you know, I wonder why such selective demonstrations.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		We don't know what they want.
		And this has been the problem all along.
		We're second-guessing the situation.
		Because they're not telling us anything.
		There's no information coming from the aliens.
		You know, I mean, nobody's talking.
		So we have to second-guess what they're doing and what they want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a whole different bowl of wax.
unidentified		Well, that's what I asked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		This is what I talk about in the book.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		There are these hot spots like Pine Bush around the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You have to get into the hot spots and really work at them to see these crafts regularly.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And also, I want to say I have about 100 segments of videotape also of the craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you really?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so do my colleagues.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, again, the question is, what do you think they want?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I think in these hot spots, a lot of the hot spots, they've built something underground.
		Oh.
		Something that's permanent.
		And we've had equipment out.
		I've had experiences where we were blasted from air coming up from the ground.
unidentified		And I also discuss this in my book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, either beneath the ground or beneath the sea would both be equally good places to stay out of sight, wouldn't they?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, and to build whatever you're building, some kind of major structure to house craft and laboratories and all kinds of things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe large pens.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Pens?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, like holding pens.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Holding areas.
		Well, yeah, I mean, it could be for any reason.
		But, I mean, I've talked to people.
unidentified		How about the breeding thing?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not working.
		Whatever they're doing isn't working.
		I mean, it should be obvious.
		See, people tend to say, like, the aliens are experimenting.
		This always bothered me.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we've got to hold that.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay right there, and we'll come back and talk about the breeding thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, they want our genes.
unidentified		Both kinds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
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		You know, you hear a lot of stories, abduction stories.
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		now Well, Dr. Ellen Crystal is obviously a good sport, as well as an interesting person, and she has been investigating UFOs for years.
		2,000 photographs, personal encounters with UFOs, a photograph of one of the aliens, not quite accurate, but close.
		The book called Silent Invasion.
		You can get it on my website through amazon.com, or we'll talk about, I guess, how you can get it otherwise.
		But I was asking about the breeding thing.
		I mean, it's long been known that they favor Earth women and that sort of thing, and that they may be coming after our genes or whatever.
		And you said, well, they're not doing a very good job of it or something.
		That made me think, well, does this mean it was like an unsatisfactory encounter that you had or none at all?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		As far as, oh, let me just say that Silent Invasion is also, it's in stores, but it might not be on the shelf, so you have to ask and they'll order it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they go into the computer and there it'll be.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's supposed to be on the shelf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can get it on Amazon, though, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Many, many, many, many stories, Ellen, of abduction involving, you know, some sort of sexual encounter and then eventually some sort of half human, half-alien offspring.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but apparently they don't live.
		I mean, they're certainly not walking around.
		And I think what my point earlier was that everybody says, oh, the aliens are experimenting with this, that, and the other thing.
		But everything that I've seen leads me to believe that they're not, it's not an experiment.
		They're actually doing something.
		There's a big difference.
		They're light years beyond that experimental stage.
		They're actually working on something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in other words, do you believe the stories of women, and believe me, I've had them on the air, who claim to have had sex with lizards, lizard-alien-like things, and all sorts of alien creatures and been impregnated and then later seen their offspring and all this sort of thing on ships, all of that?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but not.
		A lot of people think it's glamorous to be abducted.
		And I mean, that's I don't know why they think it's glamorous to be abducted, but it's not glamorous.
		I mean, people that have been abducted have really had their lives ruined.
		And there are a lot of women that had these mystery pregnancies that disappeared.
		Not the women, the Fetus disappeared and the doctor couldn't explain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So, and that's worldwide.
		You know, unfortunately, like a lot of things, this is a male-dominated field, and women tend to be the victims.
		They're still the victims.
		And if a woman makes a claim, a lot of men laugh at it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And even more so when it involves an alien.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, absolutely.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, much, much more so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you believe a lot of those stories.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I know a lot of people that have been abducted.
		And even in Pinebush, I found just tons of people that have been abducted that don't want to be on television.
		They don't want anybody to know.
		I mean, they told me in confidence.
		It basically wrecked marriages.
		Oh, yeah.
		Scared the kids.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like the husband is really going to buy that story.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, the husband, the thing is, you usually had like the family was seeing craft and anything else going on on a regular basis.
		But there's a big difference between seeing craft, seeing a light in the sky, seeing craft up close, and being abducted.
		There's a huge difference.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And my whole, I've been trying to promote that most people are going to see lights in the sky that do unexplained things or even close craft that really shouldn't be flying around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ellen, do you believe that people who want it to happen, and I have them call here all the time, say, I want to be abducted.
		I'm dying to be abducted.
		Well, yeah, they call and say that all the time.
		And I say you should be very careful what you wish for.
		But do you think generally that people who want to see lights, want to see craft, want to see aliens, want to be abducted, are more likely to be?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So wishing and hoping won't get you anywhere.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I can wish for all kinds of things that it ain't going to happen.
		Yeah, I've been, I mean, I've told, as I said when I was, I mean, many times when I've seen the craft, it was a joke with anybody standing there, give us a ride, give us a ride.
		And there it went on by, you know, no ride.
		You know, it's just because you wish for it doesn't make it so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the biggest reaction you ever had from any craft was when you yelled at it?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't say, I'd say that's the closest reaction.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't, I mean, I've had many reactions from the craft over the years, but that because it was over, you know, a few feet from me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You understand why people are skeptical about this, right?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean, I always say this, even when I'm standing there having these sightings, all the sightings I've had in the past, even when I'm standing on the street, even if there are 50 people all watching this, all photographing and filming and videotaping, I'm looking at it saying, it's hard for me to believe this is here and it's so covered up and the whole world isn't seeing this stuff and it's not open and everyday news.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So I can understand why the skeptics have a field day with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hasn't it occurred to you that with the kind of encounters you've had, you are a likely abductee?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I tend to doubt it.
unidentified		Oh, I don't know.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, up until the early 80s, I guess when Bud's first book, Bud Hopkins' first book, Missing Time, came out, you know, you don't keep track of time, except in the most general sense.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And as soon as he started in with this missing time stuff, boy, we checked the minute-by-minute accounts, you know, but I had already been doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And all your minutes were accounted for.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		There are a handful of nights that I, especially in California.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so no way there.
		Don't gloss over this now.
		You have missing time, is what you're saying.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, there are a handful of questionable incidents.
		Now, yeah, there may be missing time, but there are some very specific symptoms that go with abduction.
		And not all of the symptoms, in fact, I can say almost all of the symptoms are not publicized.
unidentified		Because almost everybody has them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's publicize them right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are they?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, we're not going to publicize them now.
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me a couple.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, I'll give you the general.
		Usually the ones that have been symptoms that have been publicized, generally, when a person is abducted, if it's completely obscure, if maybe they know something happened but they're not sure, it can be weeks or months before they start having nightmares about it.
		It'll come out in dreams, and slowly their life begins to unravel because it's so deep-rooted that they begin not to be able to function properly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something has put a block on the memory, but it begins to come back first in the subconscious in the form of dreams.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Generally speaking, I mean, there are a lot of people that have been abducted that were wide awake and remember clearly.
		I mean, there's no mystery.
		But there are a lot of people that, and I understand, I can understand why the aliens would want somebody knocked out.
		They don't want, I mean, people get scared.
		They don't want somebody apparently to die of a heart attack from fear.
		I mean, they have to do whatever they're doing.
		And they don't want any, I mean, I've heard all kinds of stories about people becoming violent or attempting to be violent with the aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, there's a full gamut of things happening.
		So I can see why the aliens would want to knock somebody out And perform whatever they're performing.
		But there are a lot of people that have been awake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they know before they take you whether you can handle it or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if not, then you are given an anesthetic.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The question is, what are they doing with us?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think they're doing with us?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the breeding is part of it.
		I always thought that they had a health problem that was fatal to their species.
		I mean, I talk about this also in Silent Invasion.
		Because the only reason, I mean, technology costs money.
		That's right.
		in some manner, whatever money you use, if somebody has to build ships, and these are not just like rinky-dink tubs of metal.
unidentified		I mean, these are...
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, these put Hollywood to shame.
		I mean, when you see these craft up close, you know, the movies, Hollywood movies only begin to, you know, touch on these crafts.
		So somebody had to build these.
		It costs a lot of money.
		They're coming from someplace.
		I always think that these small craft are coming from something that's based someplace nearby, a nearby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A mothership.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, or some kind of space station either in the solar system or even out of the solar system, but certainly out of the range of astronomers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be on the far side of the moon, we would.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, absolutely.
		Anything out of the range on the far side of any planet.
		These aliens are not, I mean, they're just like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you've got a good point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're spending a lot of money, gross national alien product, to get these ships here to do something with us.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so they're not doing it for fun and games, and they're not experimenting.
		Everything is too perfect.
		They have the whole routine perfect.
		They have us pegged perfectly.
		They know our reactions.
		They know how everybody's going to behave.
		They know what to do with the photographs to confuse people.
		They know how to really mess up your perception.
		They do a good job messing with people's minds.
		And everything is perfect.
		There are no mistakes.
		They never, I mean, there's so many times when we've been in fields where the ships were in, the ships took off, and we combed the fields looking for something that they may have left behind accidentally.
		And only one time in all the years I did this did a ship actually come back and do, I forget what it's called, where the military has a name for it.
		You go across a field, back and forth over a field, searching, like search and reconnaissance or recovery.
		I think there's a term.
		I can't think what it's called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was one in Vietnam called search and destroy.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, that's not it.
		But there was only one time, but it startled us because we had actually gone into a field and had no hint that a ship was there.
		I mean, there were about, I don't know, 15 of us.
		And the joke was, you know, just it was like the blind leading the blind.
		Everybody would just follow me.
		I'd just pick a field and run into it.
		And all of a sudden, the lights of a craft would be turning on and lifting off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did it not ever occur to you that what you were doing was potentially really dangerous?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of times I would tell people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about the liability of the crowds that were with you, these 20 or 30 people at a time?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what if one of them got, well, you know, whatever.
unidentified		I mean, wouldn't you?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, abducted is not my responsibility.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, did you have them sign waivers?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, but I tried on a lot of occasions to tell people that this, you know, what the potential hazard was.
		And a lot of people kind of understood.
		But a lot of people came back over and over again.
		I mean, they didn't just have one sighting.
		They came weekly or, you know, on a regular basis of some sort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then really, a lot of the people that were with you really were the same kind of people that call me and say they want to be abducted?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so.
		I think it's a mixed bag.
		I don't know anybody that I've come and that I've spoken to have been friends with.
		I don't know anybody that wants to be abducted.
		I know people that have been abducted, but they didn't want to be abducted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, if you get together with somebody like yourself and you go out into the field looking for spaceships, you've got to imagine that's one possibility.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right, but it never really happened to any of us while we were out there, certainly not as a group.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How would you have explained to the family of the person that you had taken out of there, out there, if they were suddenly taken away?
		I mean, what would you have said to the family?
		And the sheriff.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But the ships always bring people back, or almost always, let's put it that way.
		Everybody knew what we were doing.
		I think most people understood the risk.
		And at one point, I did try and tell people, look, there's always a chance we can get abducted.
		More than being abducted, my worst fear, and it still is, is running after these things and have something happen to the craft where it actually crashes.
		Because you know the military's going to be there in 10 minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like if you were the cause of the crash?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, no, if something went wrong with the craft.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these are mechanical devices.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they're good ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You saw that.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, not always.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Not always.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Roswell, and there's some other.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, Roswell was only one.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, there are about 300 crashes since Roswell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		100 crashes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a man named Leonard Stringfield who had...
		Yeah, he comprised a whole list of crashes.
		And, I mean, up to 1980, he had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have had many of them, South America, Africa.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, worldwide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, worldwide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, including, I mean, I published a newsletter called Contact You for eight years.
		And I got the most incredible reports, even military reports of things with aliens and ships in Cambodia and Vietnam.
		And I printed them.
		People can still get back issues.
		In fact, my address is in the back of the book.
		If people, actually, I guess I could give my address.
unidentified		Can I ask you?
unidentified		Do you have an email address?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I fell behind the times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But I'll give my address out.
		It's my name, my last name is spelled C-R-Y-S-T-A-L-L.
		And yes, that is my real name.
unidentified		All right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And 1442 Hemlock Farms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you spell that?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's A-T-N-L-O-C-K, just like the plant.
		Farms, as in funny.
		And it's Holly, A-W-L-E-Y, Pennsylvania, 1-8428.
		And it is not a street address.
		You cannot show up at my door.
		I'm in a private gated community in the heart of the Poconos.
		So just to let people know, but I answer all my mails.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you find that people did that a lot when they could get to you?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People, I mean, like, come up and knock on your door.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of people have come to the gates here trying to get in.
		And the the guards have called me.
		So on several occasions, I went out to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think these people wanted?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Conversation.
		Just somebody to talk to who would.
		A lot of the people were completely normal.
		I mean, just regular people.
		They didn't.
		They had a great interest in it.
		And just I think a lot of people think I left a lot of things out of the book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
		Uh-huh.
		That was a long enough pause.
		You did leave things out of the book, did you?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
		You have to for editing purposes.
		And, you know, there are just some things that I didn't put in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you afford one more hour?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then we're going to open the phone lines, okay?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And talk to some people.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And plus, I want to know these little editing things that you left out of the book.
		That pause was very telling.
		You can really tell when a person pauses like that.
		I think it was not just a simple little ah or the.
unidentified		I think something happened.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guest is Dr. Ellen Crystal, and she has been photographing UFOs for years, has 2,000 photographs, has been close enough to his ship to touch it and has had an encounter with an alien being.
		So, if you have questions for her, that's what we're going to do this hour.
		People are giving me a variety of responses to what we've done thus far.
		A doctor out there who's a friend of mine writes: Hey, Art, how would you like to have traveled 32 trillion miles of hyperspace only to be yelled at by some woman from New Jersey?
		I thought about that, and then there's, of course, the opposite reaction, Art.
unidentified		Stop making fun of her.
unidentified		I'm not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To those of us who have been abducted or have seen UFOs in the Hudson Valley, New York area, this is serious stuff.
		Why did they contact Whitley Streeper?
		Maybe they knew he'd become a writer.
		Same with Dr. Crystal.
		She wrote a book about the beings.
		That's right.
		And by the way, it says, the first Wednesday of every month, up to 200 people show up for a monthly meeting on UFOs in Pinebush.
		That's every single month.
		And I hope she understands.
		You understand.
unidentified		I'm not making fun with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just happy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't mind, do you?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now he is.
unidentified		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you mind very serious if you want?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have a good show.
unidentified		Yeah, well, you know, not, I mean, you have to lighten it up, otherwise it's so boring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think, too.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		This is heavy stuff.
		You know, this is not light stuff.
		The implications are just mind-boggling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They would change everything.
		All right, hold on while I do my thing here.
		Let's do it.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		cutting prices not performance All right, Dr. Ellen Crystal, what did you not put in the book?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		He's dying to ask me that.
unidentified		That's right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I didn't put in the book, I've written a second book, but the publishers aren't buying UFO books these days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then you can reveal it safely here, then?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not going to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm really dying.
unidentified		Give me a hint.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Generally speaking, I mean everything is basically in Silent Invasion, generally speaking.
unidentified		You know, they're always.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Generally speaking.
		No, now come on now.
		You're telling me essentially you've got enough to write another book.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I have enough, yeah, for another book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so then there's got to be, well, then there's got to be a lot more.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there is a I consider Silent Invasion as me being in elementary school.
		And since that time, I'm in postgraduate school for UFOs.
		So, I mean, there's just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's a very good friend of mine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you know Whitley, don't you?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know Whitley.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the person who wrote sites is right.
		Whitley had a very serious encounter.
		You had, well, it was a serious encounter, no doubt about it.
		Or a series of encounters, I guess is.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		A series of serious encounters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you sure you don't want to tell us something big that's not in this box?
		I know there is.
		I mean, I can tell from your voice.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm trying to think of something specific, and I can't think of anything particularly that I specifically left out of the book.
		I mean, the only thing I really wanted to say in Silent Invasion that I didn't, and actually it's better for a second book, is that the aliens, in my opinion from what I've seen, the aliens are here to stay and that they tend to bring their whole operation underground.
		And I'm not talking about like shovel digging where you can, you know, tunnel your way.
		I mean, they've got the equipment to really go like miles underground and hide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think that's where they are?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think, that they're bringing all these operations.
		They start on the surface and they have to bring all the equipment in.
		And actually, we've seen them bringing ships in which had loading platforms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look here.
		I have talked to a lot of abductees, getting very serious for a moment, who have claimed they were taken underground.
		Moreover, that they experienced not just aliens, but our military as well.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, there's just so many aspects to this.
		And even like with Pine Bush, it dawned on us at some point that we were being watched by humans, and we always felt that somebody or some group of people in various houses were living there specifically to monitor the alien situation and the human situation.
		Because there's no way the aliens could do what they're doing without help from humans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, let's take some calls.
		And you never know what you're going to get.
		So here we go.
		First time calling the line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How are you doing tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm here in New Orleans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		New Orleans, all right.
unidentified		My name is Al.
unidentified		How you doing, Helen?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Ellen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ellen.
unidentified		Ellen, I'm sorry.
unidentified		Excuse me.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
unidentified		I have a question to ask Ellen that may relate her alien to the starchild.
		Okay.
		When the eyes specifically, and they sound like very interesting eyes, did they move the eyes themselves or the pupil to eye to track objects or did it remain fixed?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, it moved like our eyes moved.
		The pupil moved.
		I mean, it moved in the same manner that our eyes moved as far as the pupil, you know, looking and, I mean, it looked like...
		And it was yellow.
		It was very intense.
unidentified		Well, with the idea of an eye that runs all the way to the ear, did it track a lot to the left and right or more up and down?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, well, I didn't see it long enough to see determination.
unidentified		All right, let me tell you why I'm asking this.
		I'm a chiropractor.
		And as part of my professional training, we had an awful lot of anatomy, very specific anatomy about all the little bump sees on bones where the muscles attached.
		And what I learned from listening to your program, Art, was that in the orbits of the starchild, there were very few bump sees that which you normally would expect to see the extraocular muscles attached.
		And what I read in the New Orleans newspaper about the starchild, and from what I heard in your program, the type of eye that Ellen is describing is the type of eye you would expect to see on an anatomically complete starchild if the osteological information is correct.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		What's a starchild?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She wants to know what a star child is.
unidentified		I'd like to see, if you can tell her in a second, if I can tell you one more thing about Trenton, New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like you're from New Jersey, and you didn't say New Orleans the way they did.
unidentified		Look, sir, I'm going to raise New Orleans.
		We talk real fast down here.
		Really?
		Yes, sir.
		I once had a lecture to a girl from New Yorkers, and he asked me to ask, had to ask me to slow down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you actually sound like a New Yorker or somebody from New Jersey.
unidentified		That's what all the New Yorkers kept saying to me.
		The kids kept saying, hey out, hang out.
		We're not from New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You could possibly be from New Orleans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Born and raised in New Orleans?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Have you ever come to New Orleans?
		You have to ask me.
		But the ninth ward.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hard to believe.
unidentified		You have a little bit of furlough down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you tell her what a star child is.
unidentified		Very good.
		A star child is the skeletal remains of an infant that was, well, a five or six year old child that was found in a mine shaft in Mexico with the remains of an adult woman, apparently.
		And the star child skull had, well, the starchild skull has very unusual anatomical features.
		It's usually a very deformed human skull or possibly an alien human hybrid skull.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Similar eyes to what you have described, Doctor.
unidentified		Well, that's what the bony evidence would indicate.
		Basically, eyes that don't need extra ocular muscles to move.
		It would have panoramic vision simply by the size of the eye location of the eye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It absolutely would, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can see that clearly.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And another point I want to make that does relate to Starchild directly.
		And Ellen, I'm not meaning to steal your thunder, it's just that these pieces do pull together.
		And one seems to give credibility to the other.
		Trenton, New Jersey is dead north of the Bermuda Triangle, is dead north of Columbia, dead north of the Nasdaq Plains, dead north of the Andes, the home of the Incans, the Mayans, skeptical waddle, and that Walcarving that Van Donkin claimed was a Mayan getting ready to take off on a rocket ship.
		It's a north-south line.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		But Trenton doesn't figure into our conversation.
unidentified		New Jersey?
		We're talking about the state of New Jersey, right?
		Yep.
		The 75th.
		New York, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, New York and lower New York State.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, New Jersey has sightings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would all be in line, yeah.
unidentified		But I'm telling you, that area of the United States is dead north of the Andes.
unidentified		And I've heard people talk in your program about the concept that some of these crafts might fly in magnetic lines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Or even if you were based on the NASDAQ planes, sending reconnaissance dead north and finding something in Trenton that was intriguing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate the call.
		Thank you, and take care.
		Wild Guard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yep.
		Yeah.
		And hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		Claudia from South Lake Tahoe.
		Okay.
		I have a couple questions.
		I had a series of dreams one time and there lasted a week.
		And every night I saw like a panel of being sitting at a table and they gave me a huge amount of information every single night for a full week.
		And it was like scientific information, why we're here, what water is made of, how the planet is.
		You know, it's just an endless amount.
		It seemed like I went from kindergarten to Harvard in a week.
		And has that happened to you before?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		In your dreams?
		And after that, I had sat down and I had drew these drawings, and they're black and white, my graphics, but they have UFOs.
		I mean, it's just incredible.
		It looked like a draftsman did it, and I've never drew in my whole life.
		And I took it to Sydney University to a professor of art, and he couldn't believe that they were done.
		I had never, I mean, not even stick people, you know, and I drew these drawings.
		And do you collect any kind of artwork or anything?
		Do people have any drawings that you've collected before?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		From people who have had experience?
		Yeah.
		You do?
		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think people are compelled to try to reproduce what they saw.
unidentified		Yeah, well, what it is.
		It is.
		It's like you have to sit down.
		I did like 10 in a row.
		Their poster size are huge.
		And I still look at it to this day, and I can't believe that I did it, and I've never drew again.
		I have no desire to draw.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, any event that makes an impact on a person's life, the most obvious expression is either writing or drawing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		And one other thing, I had these dreams, and they had shown me some past lives.
		And at the end of the dream, I saw this E.B. person, and he just shut the window right as soon as it was done.
		It was so weird.
		And then one other thing, I was driving down the street, and I saw this triangle in the sky.
		It had like Egyptian writing on it.
		And I thought, oh, my God, I'm just seeing.
		It wasn't a ship.
		It was just a shape, a triangle shape with this writing in it.
		And I pulled to the side of the road and I asked this man, he was about 20, just to make sure that I was seeing what I was seeing.
		I said, do you see this thing in the sky?
		And he goes, yeah, what the hell is it?
		He's starting riding across the street.
		And afterwards, I had heard in another book that that might have been a porthole.
		Have you ever heard of that or anything like that?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		I can't tell you what you saw.
		You know, I don't know.
		I mean, there's so many things people see.
		And what I also noticed a lot of times with the ships, there are a number of different shapes of craft.
		And depending on how you're viewing the craft depends on how you perceive the shape.
		So you may misperceive what you're seeing.
		You know, the triangle may have been a craft, but you didn't really see the rest of it for some reason.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		Good morning.
		Hi, Ellen.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Little Rock, Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what inquiry do you have?
unidentified		And still at work, matter of fact.
		Oh, boy.
		And I just looked at the clock.
		I know it's coming up on bright time.
		You've got enough time.
		It's going to take me a few minutes because.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, condense it for us.
unidentified		Well, I'll try.
		What I experienced was, and maybe Ellen can help me with this.
		I don't know if it was an abduction experience or if it was actually a dream.
		Actually, it was a sequence of dreams.
		Within one night, I had what I thought was a dream that I would wake up, go back to sleep, pick up exactly where I left off.
		This happened four times in a row within the same night.
		And I've never talked to anybody that's had that happen before.
		I used to try to make it happen.
		Um, you know, and that that was unsuccessful.
		But, uh, it had to do with um you know actually some government technology and UFOs and stuff.
		Um I'm trying to condense this here.
		Uh there's an acronym that I want to tell you.
		And if anybody knows what this means or has experienced it, I think what is it?
		Well, there was an embroidery that I saw on the back of a technician, for lack of a better term, when I was aboard this craft, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's all right, this obviously is going to take longer.
unidentified		Yeah, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hold on, hold on, hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll do the break and come back to you, all right?
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because I want to see what the symbol is, frankly.
		Embroidery on the back of a technician during an abduction conspiracy.
		We shall see.
unidentified		Oh, y'all are.
		I give you everything.
		I'll give you diamond ring.
		Things right to your door.
		I'm just the newest design.
		I've given you diamonds right.
		Somebody says I'm well excited.
		I'm making a game of me.
		I'm making a game of me.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Scan, Dr. Ellen Crystal, and our caller, I'm curious about the symbol that was on the back of the technician's, what, jacket?
unidentified		Coat?
		Yes.
		Whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
unidentified		Well, first of all, let me say I apologize for, you know, not being able to articulate this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell us what it was, sir.
unidentified		Okay, this was an event that took place over about a five-hour period one night where I thought it was a dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got all that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give us the symbol, please.
unidentified		Well, okay, I'm getting there because I think this is pretty important.
		I know that the technicians, or I say that for lack of a better term, that I saw aboard this craft were very humanoid.
		I perceived them, or I felt in the dream or experience, whatever it was, that they were government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Be that as it may, I'm sorry to press you, but please, this is.
unidentified		Okay, well, I'm getting there.
		Not fast enough.
		Say it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just say it.
unidentified		Okay.
		What I saw on the back of these white lab coats, right underneath the collar, said Department of Research Engineering.
		Now, let me...
		Well, I know, exactly.
		And let me elaborate.
		When I saw it immediately, in this dream or whatever it was, I said, okay, I've got to remember this.
		So I associated it with an acronym.
		I said, DOR, D-O-R-E.
		Right.
		Now, the thing that was interesting is I thought, okay, this is different than Department of Engineering Research.
		In other words, you know, finding different ways to engineer certain technologies.
		This was a way to do different means of research as opposed to engineering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		We'll hold it right there.
unidentified		Ellen?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have no idea.
		I mean, and he's saying it could have just been a dream.
		It's obviously just a play on words, and we don't know if it was a dream or a real event.
		So you know, it's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But see, isn't that what people say to you?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know it was not a dream as opposed to a real event?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is one of the big missed homers about the abduction.
		All the abductees know I mean, it's not a problem.
		Well, most of the abductees remember some aspect of their abduction.
		They know it wasn't a dream.
		And there was one case where I g I it the thing is, in Pine Bush, my whole point was to get to the ships and make contact.
		What I found in the process was so many people abducted.
		And like one guy who was abducted, he went to sleep at night.
		He remembers being, you know, he could have said it could have been a dream.
		Except he remembers being dragged downstairs and there were no stairs in his house.
		And when he woke up, he had a broken leg.
		He had a real broken leg.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, that that's not a dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not a double dream.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And he had no stairs in his house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No stairs.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And he had been through five years of analysis through traditional means and nothing was doing anything.
		And his family was wrecked.
		He lost his job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		All of this, actually, even though I've been having fun with you this morning, all of this really is very serious.
		And you're right, marriages and families.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		So all of the abductees remember some aspect of it specifically.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		They know it wasn't a dream because they know they were someplace.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you wonder whether it's a dream, then it might.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's probably a dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, thank you.
		My name is Zan.
		I'm calling from Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And this book sounds like one I've got to get.
		I have a question for you, Ellen.
		Okay.
		How are you sure that these are from another planet and not just the goblins that people have been reporting for thousands of years dragging people off to fairyland and underground and stuff?
		Well, that seems to make sense to me, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's an awfully good question.
		In other words, do we actually know they originated elsewhere?
		You've mentioned you think they're underground and they have bases underground, which is logical, I agree.
		But how do we know they're from elsewhere as opposed to, for example, always having been here?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		The craft they're using is so spacecraft, you can't get any more spacecraft.
		I mean, it's made for traveling in space.
		It's blatantly obvious.
		So, I mean, that right there is telling me they're coming a distance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good point.
		It's a good point.
		But I guess once in space, you know, it doesn't really matter what shape an object is, frankly.
		It doesn't have to be shaped like a rocket.
		It has to be shaped like a rocket to get out of the atmosphere using traditional fuel and propulsion systems.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it doesn't have to be shaped.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		In our technology, it's got to be shaped like a rocket because that's all we're capable of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I said, using traditional propulsion systems.
		Oh, okay.
		But once you're in space, if you had some sort of anti-gravitic capability, why, obviously, it wouldn't matter what shape it was.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, and that's the case because there are a whole load of different shapes, and I mean, they just take off.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You know, zero to light-year speed is, I mean, in the blink of an eye, they're gone, and it's just obvious that it's spacecraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zero to light speed in less than 60.
unidentified		Yeah, less than 60 milliseconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Alan Crystal.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello.
		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you.
unidentified		That's me.
		It's funny, me.
		Yeah, I've got a lot of questions.
		I was born and raised in Nevada.
		Right.
		And I now live in New Mexico.
		And I have seen a lot of sightings.
		And I don't know how much is military and how much is UFOs.
		Right.
		That lady that was talking from Tahoe earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I had sat there on my front porch in Virginia City and saw things from the Naval Air Base in Fallon.
		And I saw them go from Fallon to Lake Tahoe and down.
		And I've seen it happen here in New Mexico.
		Well, you see, we're at somewhat of a disadvantage.
		Two nights ago, there was a fireball that came down here.
		A fireball.
		We got big military bases here in New Mexico, and nobody's going to go up to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know all about it.
		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		Look, that's a problem.
		We're in the southwest.
		I'm here in Nevada.
		You're now in New Mexico.
		Both areas are very heavily militarized.
		I think about 90% of Nevada's land is owned by the U.S. government.
		We have Area 51.
		We have a lot of military aircraft experimentation that we can only imagine.
		And so, of course, out here, a disproportionate number of sightings, I'm sure, can be attributed to the military.
		It's a lot harder.
		But when you're back in Flatbush, for example, that really is not the case.
		And yet you have, nevertheless, a hotspot.
		So it's more likely that whatever it is isn't ours.
		Is that fair, Doctor?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, Pinebush.
		Close Flatbush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, Flatbush.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Flatbush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, there are military bases all over, but you know, I mean, I've been in touch with the air traffic controllers at the airport that's closest to Pine Bush.
		And I've talked to military people, and I mean, there may be one, if there's one experimental plane like out of a base, that's all there is.
		You know, and in fact, a number of years ago, somebody, the media kept claiming there were a group of ultralight pilots flying across New York State.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right, information trying to freak people.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, but they couldn't be all over at once.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even if there was a group, they can't be here, there, and everywhere all at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like Doug and Dave with the crop circles.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't be all over the world, you know, at the same time.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		It's impossible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Ellen.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, it's you.
		Yes.
		My name is Robert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Robert.
unidentified		Calling from Middleton, Idaho.
		Okay.
		I have an account of back in 1977 with my account of the first time seeing a UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close up?
		Yeah.
		How close?
unidentified		It was about 50 feet away.
		It was pretty close.
		Where were you?
		Well, I ran out of the house toward it.
		Yes.
		And I noticed there was no rivets, no identifiable markings on this craft.
		It was huge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shaped what?
unidentified		How?
		Like a disc.
		Like a disc?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Metal?
unidentified		Yeah, I guess it was metal.
unidentified		It was kind of shull, you know, shiny color to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did it do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you do?
unidentified		Well, I was thinking as I was running toward it, all right, you know, this is great.
		You know, I'd never seen one before, you know, just this was really amazing.
		So I noticed something really different or different about it.
		There were colors in the center and on the dome area up top.
		And it was like tears of light.
		And they were kind of like, oh, I don't know how to explain this, kind of like almost like socks in a dryer where they tumble.
		And the lengths of some of the strips in the saucer were anywhere from 8 to 12 feet long and they were different thicknesses.
		Yellow, red, green, blue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did this craft do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we don't have a lot of time here.
unidentified		Oh, it just stood there in mid-air with complete silence.
		And then it took off very quick to the left of me.
		And I looked, looked around, and it was up in the air still, higher up above, behind some trees.
		And then it just went up and it looked like it was part of the stars again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what to say about that.
		I mean, join the club.
		Welcome to the club.
		Many of us have seen things like that.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I always tell people draw a picture and write up the account because it helps you articulate better what you experienced.
		And also, you tend to remember little details that you wouldn't remember if you hadn't written it down and thought about it.
		So write it down and draw a picture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That really does help.
		I mean, even if you have a dream at night, the dream analyst will tell you the same thing.
		Before it goes away, before the details fade, sit and write it out.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then you can have a good laugh at lunchtime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
unidentified		Hi, I have to turn my radio down.
unidentified		Yes, you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have it close by.
unidentified		Okay, I'm sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		I live in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
		My name's Cheryl.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Cheryl.
unidentified		And I know what she's talking about.
		And what's really odd is I've looked into pine bush.
		I've had things happening for about three years.
		And I'm at the same, is it latitude as pinebush?
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess it would be roughly the same, yes.
unidentified		It's almost exact.
		Uh-huh.
		And I'm seeing the same type of lights that I've seen pictures of from Pine Bush.
		And I've taken hundreds of pictures myself.
		And this is ongoing.
		And there's been a lot of other things going on, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe you should be sharing some pictures with Ellen.
unidentified		Maybe.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, yeah, if you'd like to send me some copies so I can look at them.
unidentified		Well, see, I've got them on my computer.
unidentified		So they wouldn't be as clear as a photo.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		You can print them out.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Do that.
		One in particular that is really interesting, though, is they're like bubbles.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Oh, round globes?
unidentified		Yes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, I didn't talk about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well go ahead and talk about round globes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I first took a picture in 1984.
		We saw the craft.
		I took the picture.
		I got the picture back.
		There was an immense round globe in the center of the picture, looking like it was just sitting on a bunch of trees.
		I walked around with the photo for about six months until, and I talked about this in Silent Invasion.
		I met two people who had worked with the government chasing craft in Colorado.
unidentified		And they looked at the photo and said, that's a Tesla field.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And I said, what's that?
		And they said, well, the scientist, Nicholas Tesla, had created these energy fields.
		It was supposed to be theoretical, blah, blah, blah.
		Since then, I've also taken thousands of pictures of Tesla fields.
		They seem to come as small as tennis balls and as large as about 300 feet or so, like a dome.
		I have them over houses, over trees, over fields.
		We're walking in them.
		Everybody who's taken pictures of UFOs gets Tesla fields at some point.
		There's a fog also that falls in line with these Tesla globes.
		It's some kind of energy field.
		It's supposed to protect something inside of it, whether it's a piece of equipment or a craft.
		A Tesla's idea was to put a dome over a city so that it would protect the city from any incoming missiles.
		They always had that military destructive slant to it.
		But Apparently the aliens, for whatever reason, used these Tesla globes and Tesla supposedly at one point in his life was in touch with aliens.
		You'll figure it out.
unidentified		No, I can't figure it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I have never heard that.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Tesla's own words.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he he claimed he was in touch with aliens.
		But it's not, they left it out of the biographies.
		I'll bet.
		There's one biography, Tesla Man Out of Time, and there's another one.
		It's in that I found that information someplace.
		I can't remember where offhand, but I mean, I have all that information, but I. All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, I want to be able to give your address.
		Obviously, your book, Silent Invasion, is available on amazon.com.
		We've got a link to that.
		That's one way to get it.
		The other is to go to a bookstore and order it.
		Silent Invasion by Dr. Ellen Crystal.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		St. Martin's Press.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Martin's Press, right.
		I guess that's important to know.
		And you have an address you're willing to give out, right?
		So go ahead and give it a question.
unidentified		For better or worse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for better or worse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Always.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		1442, Tem Lock Farms.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Hawley, AKW, L E Y Pennsylvania, 18428.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you better give it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People can never write that fast.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay, 1442.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Everybody got that number?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Temlock, A-T-M-L-O-C-K, Farms, Hawley, A-K-W-L-E-Y, Pennsylvania, 1-8428.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you want from people?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Money.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why you're selling a book.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		No, I want to get information out.
		I mean, I like to hear from people what they've experienced.
		Please, if you can, include a stamped address, you know, an S-A-S-E.
		It helps me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you do try to write back to them?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I write back to everybody.
		It may take time if I get a lot of letters because at times I have been inundated.
		But it's been quiet.
		I'm sure that'll change.
		But people have some amazing stories, and I actually wanted to put together a book of letters, but the publishers are so far behind the times that all they want a real alien.
		It's really, yeah, before they'll publish another book on your own.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want a real alien.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, everybody wants a real alien, for God's sake.
		I mean, that's just ridiculous.
		You can't get a book published unless you're a celebrity or, you know, you have an alien that'll come forward and speak.
		It's just ridiculous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you, that would be a hell of a book, though.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Well, but there's a lot in between.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I had a reporter come out with me who was writing a story for the Middletown newspaper, and he was said to have eye surgery the next week.
unidentified		Right.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And a week later, he went to his doctor for the pre-surgical exam.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And the doctor said, you don't need surgery.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		And we had sightings the night he came out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think he was cured?
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he thinks he was cured.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		He wrote it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he was cured.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		He wrote it.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, it has been a pleasure having you on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are out of time.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So thank you for being here, Dr. Crystal, and we'll do it again sometime.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a lively lady.
ellen crystall ▲ ● ▼		Thanks so much.
unidentified		See you later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Ellen Crystal.
		Talking actually about a very serious set of sightings that have occurred in New York.
		Pinebush, the Pine Bush area of New York, and that's been going on, is ongoing now and has been for years.
		So we'll be back shortly with open lines.
		Anything you want to talk about?
unidentified		Only in America, a land of opportunity, yeah, because last big girl like you fall for a poor boy like me.
		What?
		In America, and the kids who watch the giant steps and drive them far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now from the archives of Coast to Coast AM, Art Bell describes a rather unfortunate on-air situation.
unidentified		I've got next to me, what's called a cart rock.
		It's an affair with spotted little holes that hold the commercials and the bumper music and all that sort of thing.
		It came apart during break.
		And some, you know, a bunch of carts fell down, so I cut them all down here.
		And so I thought I would fix it, and I ran into the other room and got a container of super glue.
		And I guess I hadn't put the top back on it, so I took a pair of scissors right here, and I cut the top off the super glue to get it to flow.
		Well, it flowed, all right.
		It flowed all over me.
		So I tried to pick it off, but it was still flowing on my finger.
		And I think that I've glued my lips together.
		This is the dumbest thing that I've ever done by a country mile.
		I actually glued my lips together.
		I did.
		My pot, I ripped part of my lip off.
		Piece of my lips.
		Go on.
		Join art all night long or any portion thereof.
		You never know what's coming next on Coast to Coast AM, and neither does the host.
		Actually, a little piece of my lip in the astray here.
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		I am very disappointed that the United States Senate voted not to ratify the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
		This agreement is critical to protecting the American people from the dangers of nuclear war.
		It is therefore well worth fighting for.
		And I assure you, the fight is far from over.
		Tobacco giant Philip Morris now admits smoking is addictive.
		John Garrison of the American Lung Association had this reaction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They want to try to make the public feel better toward them.
		Now the public is very anti-tobacco.
		And I think that's worrying Philip Morris.
		They're trying to position themselves so that in the future, people who start smoking, these people will have a harder time winning lawsuits because of Philip Morris taking the position that it's addicting and that it's cancer-causing.
unidentified		Three years after Jean-Buddha Ramsey was murdered, this announcement yesterday from Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter.
		The Boulder grand jury has completed its work and will not return.
		No charges have been filed.
		The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says some side airbags can kill small children who are too close to them when the bags inflate.
		Warning comes after automakers are installing more airbags as either standard or optional equipment.
		This is USA Radio News.
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		Vice President Alan Gore receiving a key endorsement from the AFL-CIO.
		The story from USA's Dale Courtier.
		The big expected endorsement from the AFL-CIO is considered a turning point in the Gore campaign for the presidency, providing potentially millions of dollars in financial support along with some key organizers.
		And while the endorsement is a victory for Gore in light of his recent drop in the polls, it's not an assurance that some unions won't go their own way.
		The Teamsters union has indicated it's too early in the political process to endorse anyone.
		Dale Cordier, USA Radio News, Los Angeles.
		Controversy in the Florida School District.
		Officials there have mandated that sports bras should be hidden.
		Hillsboro County School Sports Program has told female athletes they must wear a shirt or a jersey over the sports bras.
		The school district said that displaying a sports bra like soccer player Brandy Chastain did is inappropriate.
		This is USA Radio News.
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		Congress approving a bailout plan for farmers whose crops were destroyed by Hurricane Floyd.
		USA's John Decker reports.
		The bill is the second big bailout in as many years for producers clobbered by low commodity prices, drought, and flooding.
		The size of this year's bailout is nearly $3 billion more than what Congress approved a year ago.
		And congressional leaders are considering additional assistance for producers whose farms were washed out last month by Hurricane Floyd.
		The package now goes to President Clinton for his expected signature.
		John Decker, USA Radio News, Washington.
		Well, troubling news from Uncle Sam.
		The Agriculture Department says at least 10% of the households in 18 states and the District of Columbia are going hungry.
		On Wall Street yesterday, Dow Industrials lost 185 points, closing at 10,232.
		The NASDAQ was off 71 points for the session at 28.01.
		Jason Walker with news on the USA Radio Network.
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		I don't want your lonely mansion With a tear in every room All I want's a love you promise Beneath the hallowed moon But you think I should be happy With your money and your name And hide myself in sorrow While you
		play your cheating game Silver, fresh, and golden needle And I'm in this heart of mine And I cannot drown my sorrow In the warm world of your eyes Bell, in the Kingdom of Nai, from west of the Rockies, dial 1-800-618-8255, East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with our bell on the Premier Radio Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Morning, everybody.
		We have Richard Hoakland here tomorrow night, and I just now got a fax from Paul Davis, the producer of Roswell the Movie.
		It says, Dear Art, I look forward to the eminent show with Richard Hoakland.
		Thank you for enabling Richard to discuss our upcoming feature film, The Face on Mars, in the aftermath of the disappearance of the Mars Climate Orbiter.
		Art, I'm writing, and we'll fax you as well, to request that you consider establishing a link to my new website.
		It's www.sorrynightmovie.com.
		He says we've already linked to you.
		The justification, he says, for linking from your end would be the site will inform your listeners of what we've been up to as producer, director, writer for the last two years.
		And there is material that covers my body of work, which includes Roswell, the movie, you recall, with Martin Sheen, among others, even Dwight Yoakum, as a matter of fact.
		And so I expect we will probably have a link up tomorrow night.
		It should be an interesting night tomorrow night.
		We're going to have Richard C. Hoagland here, and we are going to have an astronomer here as well, one who believes in the exploded plant theory.
		think you know who that might be.
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		When you think about it, being thirsty is a pretty simple concept.
		You get thirsty, you grab a drink.
		But what do you do when your soul gets thirsty?
		Listen to the words of Jesus Christ.
		Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again.
		But whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst.
		Indeed, the water I give him will become a spring welling up to eternal life.
		To learn how you can have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, call 1-888-JESUS-2000.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Open lines now.
		Anything you all want to talk about is fair game.
		First time caller online, you are on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		How you doing, Art?
		Okay.
		I'm Jason, calling from Atlanta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I got something kind of interesting you might like to hear.
		All right.
		I'm not going to name the place I'm working at, but I'm a security officer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I got some really weird things going on here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Well, I check the area and I'm the only one in the building.
		Everybody's gone.
		It's a pretty prestigious place at that.
		And I'll walk by and I'll check a room and everything's in place.
		And I'll come back.
		Five minutes later, there'll be chairs stacked on top of tables.
		Yeah, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, well, then either you have a ghost, a poltergeist, or somebody playing around with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either way, pretty scary.
unidentified		Well, it gets even worse than that, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It does.
unidentified		It gets a lot more complicated.
		This thing will now co talk to me through my pager.
		My pager will ring, and I'll ask a question, and it's simple yes and no answers it gives me.
		So like one digit is yes, two digits is no.
		And um and it's just really crazy because it each week modern form of the Ouija border.
		Well each week it's progressing.
		It's getting worse and worse and worse.
		It's doing more prestigious pay on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well I'll tell you, I watch a lot of movies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in a lot of movies, security guards, they're the first victims.
unidentified		Well, I think I'm a victim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're eaten, they're mauled, they're torn into pieces.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're disposable.
unidentified		You're supposed to be giving me some good advice, Siri.
unidentified		Well, I'm not supposed to try to scare them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you've seen the movies.
		You know, they're always the first to go, and they find the body in the morning stuffed in the closet, pieces.
		Well, I hope that don't happen to me.
unidentified		I've got a witness, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got a witness?
unidentified		I've got a witness.
unidentified		I'm not just imagining this stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another security guard here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another security guard?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		He's a supervisor at the other part of the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In most movies I've seen, they wouldn't be able to tell his parts from yours.
unidentified		Well, I mean, I'm just messing with you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just messing with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's really observed your pager going off, the whole thing.
unidentified		Right.
		It happened to him.
		As a matter of fact, he didn't believe me right away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know he isn't doing this to you?
unidentified		Because he's with me when the pager starts doing this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, When you make a page, sometimes it takes a paging service a little time to actually deliver the page.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, it's kind of instantaneous.
		You ask a question, it's like instantly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't like that.
unidentified		No, I don't like that too much either.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, he's seen the thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
unidentified		Well, he was doing a tour in this area, and it's kind of dark, and he's riding around in this cart.
		And he drove by, and he noticed a woman there, and it sort of started and goes, oh, you scared me.
		Well, the lady wasn't even looking at him, and he thought something was wrong where, like, she had an argument with her husband or something.
		She was walking around this area.
		And he's like, are you okay?
		And she says, no, I'm fine.
		I'm just walking.
		And she said, I'm just walking like three times.
		And he says, well, you have a good evening.
		And she turned around and looked at him real slowly.
		And then he saw her eyes.
		And her eyes were just, he couldn't explain it.
		It just, it wasn't human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you make a lot of money?
unidentified		I make a pretty good fit.
unidentified		I mean, I like my job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better than minimum wage.
unidentified		It's better than minimum wage by far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It would take a lot of money to keep me there.
unidentified		Well, I'm trying to do something about it.
		Maybe you could give me a number or something I could call because, like I said, Art, it's starting to come home with me now.
		It's not just at work.
		You know, my wife is noticing things.
		The cat's scared half to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call 1-800-RED EYESE.
unidentified		You're kidding, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I am kidding.
		I have no idea what number that is.
		No, look, if it was me, I'd be finding a new job.
		I'm serious.
		I wouldn't like any of that.
		None of it.
unidentified		Well, I called a paranoid investigator, and he said it sounds like the act of a poltergeist because for ghosts to be able to move something, they've got to be pretty powerful to actually pick something up and move it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I always didn't relate to the movies, and I'm telling you right now, the security guards go first and quick.
		And whether they're in security guard stations or usually in the movies or going around, do you have one of those little keys?
		You've got to turn a thing?
unidentified		I've got several keys.
		Well, I know you've got some other calls coming in.
		I want to leave with one other thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Have you ever heard of the books called the Gilgamesh Scribes?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's vaguely familiar, only.
unidentified		If you could find any information on it, I think you would be pretty much intrigued.
		From what little bit that I do understand, they can't even do carbon-14 tests on it.
		They say that the book is so old, you know, it's supposedly not even written in any text that they can decipher.
		And there's a lot to it.
		It talks about like the creation of Earth.
		And it really upsets a lot of people who are deep in their roots in the religion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In some movies, all they find is a badge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I've got to go, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes, sir.
		I was wondering if you or your guest are familiar with the Uranta Foundation or the Urancha book.
		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've read Urantia.
unidentified		It's a big book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It takes a lot of time.
unidentified		Oh, I know.
		What I was wondering is, do you think it's that valid?
		And I have no history on that.
		I'm trying to find the history of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The history of the book?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know whether it's valid.
unidentified		I read it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been in a search all my life for the truth or what I consider to be the truth, something that I can really buy into.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I can't say that I bought into Urantia.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's just me, though.
unidentified		Yeah, I just bought the book, and then I got some readings from the Foundation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you read it, and when you're done, you call me and tell me what you think.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It's taking me a long time right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, you thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Easter the Rockies.
unidentified		You're on there.
		Hi.
		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		It's down.
		That's good.
		How are you doing tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My left knee is still a little sore.
unidentified		Well, I do care about your knee, too.
		Actually, I wanted to follow.
		This is Joe from Austin, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I wanted to follow a little bit up on Ellen Crystal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I had bought her book back in, I think, around 94.
		And I actually tried to write her.
		I went to the MUFON conference in Greenville, North Carolina.
		Right.
		And I was also trying to get in the Monroe Institute during that same week.
		And while I was stopped by the Monroe and got myself into the class there, but I had a week to kill before the class started.
		So I drove on up to Pine Bush.
		And I met a bunch of people out there.
		And there were some, I didn't see anything myself, but there was some really strange stuff that had happened.
		I met a gentleman that was the head of the abduction support group there in Pine Bush.
		And one evening we went back to his house, and he had taken some photographs, and they were absolutely amazing.
		There was one photograph of a, I don't know how to explain it, but there was a, kind of like on the main road where a lot of the sightings were, there was an area that was probably 300 or 400 yards in length that had been taken, gravel had been taken out of it.
		And there was a tree line above that, the back, about maybe 200 yards back was a tree line.
		And he had a photograph of, I don't know how to explain this.
		It was, if you can imagine a door that was probably two or three hundred yards thick, it was merely a rectangle.
		And it was the outline of, it would be very similar to looking at a door, just floating above the tree line, back along that gravel pit.
		Oh, wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was kind of like a portal.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		It was kind of like a portal.
		It's just amazing.
		The other thing is you were talking about...
		Yeah, it it's amazing.
		The other thing I wanted to mention is she was talking about the Tesla globes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		And other people have mentioned those.
		Again, another picture that he had enhanced, he had some sort of a graphics enhancement program.
		He had loaded on his computer.
		And it was real interesting.
		He had enhanced one of the Tesla.
		He had several pictures of Tesla globes, the same as Ellen Crystal has in her book.
		But he had enhanced one of the photographs, and there seemed, I mean, and I saw it, it was clear, it wasn't something that you needed your imagination.
		He actually showed there was a picture of an alien curled up inside the Tesla globe after he had a strange thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It seemed sort of like a fetus curled up.
unidentified		Exactly, exactly.
		And you could see the outline of the alien.
		It wasn't dense.
		It was still vaporous, almost like the globe itself.
		But you could see the outline of the alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear the security guard at Vaughn a little while ago?
unidentified		Yeah, I was listening to this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, would you stay in that job?
unidentified		No, I think I'd go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Walking around all night just waiting for the next shoe to fall?
unidentified		No, no, I think I'd go.
		Oh, yeah, one other thing.
		There's another book, and then this is just for your listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		There's another book that's called, I don't know if you've ever, have you ever had either Tom Dongo or Linda Bradshaw on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay, well, they wrote a book.
		They both at the time were residing on a ranch.
		I think it's about 20 miles outside of Sedona.
		They didn't ever actually exactly say where they both lived, but they were within a few miles of each other.
		But the only thing I'll mention is if you buy Ellen's book and you enjoy that, you might want to grab this book.
		It's called Merging Dimensions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, okay.
unidentified		And he has, oh gosh, he has, I don't know, there's maybe 15, 20 pages of photographs in his book.
unidentified		And many, many of the photographs are exactly like Bellen Crystal's photographs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't have to buy books.
		That's the good thing about doing this program.
		Yeah, you can try to.
		I have Silent Invasion right here in my hand.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call and take care.
		They send them to me in droves.
		I have books, and yes, I can see the photographs.
		And yes, I can see the globes.
		She calls them Tesla globes.
		And they may be, who knows?
		Scattered Teslas.
		Pine Bush, New York, it says, June 14th, 1988.
		When there are lots of lights flying, there seems to be much more going on than we can see as on this night.
		And obviously the camera caught what the eye did not.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, Art.
unidentified		This is Icos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Icos?
unidentified		Yes, how are you doing this evening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good.
		That's an interesting name.
		Why were you named Icos?
unidentified		Well, it's kind of a long story, but basically it has to do with the Greek play in college.
		Oh, okay.
		I had a question.
		I was wondering, do you think some of your viewers would be interested in knowing about filming that we're beginning on October 29th, which will be about the Space Island Project?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What filming?
unidentified		Well, it's actually the name of the film is going to be the SpaceIland.com Movie.
unidentified		And what we're doing is we're beginning a film in a town in Idaho called Moscow, Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Moscow, yes.
unidentified		Which is the University of Idaho location.
		And they have a large dome there.
		And we're going to be actually filming with a company called Fractal Films.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is Gene Myers going to be involved?
unidentified		Well, Gene is going to be involved somewhat, but he's not actually involved in the movie per se.
unidentified		Fractal Films is directed by, or the director is Mark Marshall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the idea?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are the proceeds going to Space Island?
unidentified		Part of it's going to Space Island, and also the proceeds are being designed to get people able to participate in the process of building a real Space Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, that is what Gene Myers is going to do.
		Well, I look forward to hearing from Gene Myers on that subject.
		First time caller online, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Is that Bill?
		Yep.
		All right.
		I'm telling about the thing you were talking about in Mexico, figuring out how to, why the town sunk in?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have your radio on?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I better turn it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better do that.
		Very confusing.
		You're going to sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
unidentified		I apologize.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, ask your question again.
unidentified		Okay, you were asking earlier and trying to figure out why that town sunk in in Mexico?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The lady described the house as swirling down under the ground and then the ground covering.
unidentified		Okay, there is a geological phenomenon.
		Yes.
		They have underground streams.
		And those tremors they had, it can cause it because there's clay in the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're describing where I live.
		We have clay content here.
		And we have an underground aquifer, the second largest in the U.S. At 30 feet here, you'll hit water.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe this is why I'm so scared of this.
unidentified		Okay.
		Yeah, I heard you say you were afraid of it.
		Okay, I live along the Rio Grande River.
		Yes.
		And they also, they have things where the river dries up, and people take their trucks out and go across it and everything.
		And all of a sudden, those roundy round swirls come up, and they suck them in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, that scares me.
unidentified		And it has to do with underground water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nothing, thank you.
		Nothing scares me in the world like the concept of having the ground open and being sucked in and buried alive.
		Maybe it wouldn't be as bad if you were in your car.
		Maybe it'd be worse.
		Have all that oxygen to sit there and Turn on your headlights and nothing would happen.
		There you are, thirty feet underground, waiting for the little air to give to give away and that's it.
		You're buried in your car.
unidentified		Horrible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely horrible.
		International line, you are on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, I want to call talk to Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That that would be me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off and proceed.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Yes, I'm calling from Burnaby, D.C. Yes, sir.
		I've seen a lot of stuff in the skies here.
		I live in a high-rise in Metro Town here in Burnaby.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I'm facing north through towards the mountains.
		Right.
		Not too long ago, I saw one of those blue fireballs.
		My curtains don't cover my entire patio window to my balcony.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, you see a flash.
unidentified		No, it was a fireball.
		It had a tail, and it was light blue.
		Well, it could have been a...
		Oh, you mean you Dazzland 5?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying you just now saw it?
unidentified		No, this was about a month ago.
		It was raining out.
		And about alien abductions, it's your government that's abducting people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My government?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know it's not your government?
unidentified		Canadian government wouldn't do that to people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
unidentified		They're not as evil as your government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean our government's evil?
unidentified		It is.
		It's fascist.
		Fascist?
		You got a two-party state.
		It's a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state.
		I don't see any difference between Republicans and Democrats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		John, what about up there in Canada?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the big difference between your two political parties, huh?
unidentified		We have four.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		What's the difference between all four of them?
		They're all pretty socialist.
unidentified		No?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		We had Mulrooney.
unidentified		He was good buddies with Reagan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, that's true.
		But you don't have Mulano.
unidentified		You don't have that free trade agreement.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you don't have now, do you?
unidentified		What?
unidentified		You have now who now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's gone.
unidentified		You have Cretchin.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Mulrooney's gone, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		History.
unidentified		Like this call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was insulting.
		Very insulting.
		Anybody know what this is?
		Guess there's no use in hanging around.
unidentified		Guess I'll get dressed into the town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll find some crowded avenue.
unidentified		Though it will be empty without you.
		Thank you.
		Hi, Damon.
		Damon's a 13-year-old boy who has autism.
		Today, Easter Seals is helping him learn how to operate a cash register.
		I'm going to pretend that I'm a customer.
		May I help you?
		I would like one bag of potato chips.
		I'll care.
		Vocational training like this teaches communication skills for job placement, making Damon someone who can count and be counted on.
		So I owe you 90 cents.
		How much change do I get?
		10 cents very good.
		Easter seals.
		I like their coffee chips.
		I feel good topic.
		She's full potential, but to reach it, she needs help.
		That's where you come in.
		Too many children today are victims of poverty, abuse, and neglect.
		Foster grandparents share 20 hours a week with kids.
		They receive a small stipend and a whole lot of love.
		It makes me happy.
		Call your local foster grandparent program or 1-800-424-8867 and give a child a chance.
		She's only got one grandpa, this man.
		I worry about my mom's safety.
		I wanted to find a safe way for mom to receive her federal government benefit, so I told her about direct deposit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Through direct deposit, federal payments can be automatically deposited to checking or savings accounts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Learn more about direct deposit at any bank, savings and loan, or credit union, or ask your federal paying agency.
unidentified		Now, if I could just get her to change that old hairstyle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Direct deposit.
unidentified		Simple, safe, secure.
		My name is Jay Steyperk.
		From age one to nine, I could run and I played football and baseball.
		And then when I was ten, the doctors found a tumor on my spine, so they removed it and I'm partially paralyzed.
		My doctor said, if you could do anything in the world, what would you pick to do?
		And I said, oh, geez, well, I guess I'd go to the World Series.
		So he gave my name to Make-A-Wish, and I went to the 1991 World Series.
		So that was cool.
		It just gave me a positive outlook on life that dreams can come true, and that whatever happens to you, you know, you can work through it.
		And there are always people to support you and help you out.
		It's really a great thing.
		If you know a child who needs our help, please call your local Make-A-Wish Foundation, because there's nothing like the power of a wish.
		Make-A-Wish Foundation Hey, this is Kate Pearson from the BCC Choose.
		For Rad, getting drunk is your own business, but when you drive drunk, you make it everybody's business.
		Don't drink and drive.
		Be responsible, plan ahead, and choose a designated driver.
		Remember, music lives and so should you.
		Love Shack is a little break where we can get together.
		Hi, this is Tricia Gearwood with today's EcoQuiz.
		Curbside recycling programs.
		They've increased tenfold since 1988.
		And what's even better, more and more of us are using them to recycle steel food cans and plastic soda bottles, among other things.
		Do you know which of these containers can be recycled over and over again?
		Here's the answer to today's EcoQuiz.
		If you said steel food cans, you're right.
		They not only can be recycled, they can be recycled over and over again, saving substantial amounts of energy and natural resources.
		Almost everything you recycle helps save some natural resources, as well as landfill space.
		Did you know that one ton of new paper made from the newspapers you drop off at curbside recycling programs saves enough energy to heat your house for a half year?
		So recycle and buy recycled.
		It can help us all.
		This is Tricia Yearwood on EcoQuiz.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		EcoQuiz is a public service of the National Recycling Coalition and the Steel Recycling Institute for a more environmentally conscious America.
unidentified		Heartbell reminds you, be careful what you call those household spooks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This night, we do only ghost stories.
unidentified		When I first moved in here, my wife started having dreams about an old woman.
		She goes, I see this old lady coming down the hallway.
		And my friends would come over and they'd say, hey, Ed, what's going on with the ghost?
		One time, my friend Benny asked me that, and I said, no, nothing lately.
		The old hag hasn't been around, just joking.
		Instantly, my daughter had a clear acrylic grand piano music box.
		This thing started going like full tilt, playing the music.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I picked it up and I could see it because it was clear.
unidentified		You could see the mechanism.
		The coil spring was wound up and the key was just turning around pretty fast.
		And I put it down and that shook me up really well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would do it for me, too.
		One word of caution.
		For an entity in your house, I would think calling it the old hag might not be your best option.
unidentified		I think that kind of stopped after that.
unidentified		In the state-of-the-art of the city, where the sun refuses to shine, people tell me it ain't no use inspired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a security guard.
unidentified		My little girl, you're so young and fresh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's late at night.
unidentified		And one thing I know is true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your beaver is calling.
unidentified		Before you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's only one thing that's really true.
unidentified		Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
		First-time callers may reach out at 1-775-727-1222.
		And the wildcard line is open at 1-775-727-1295.
		to reach out on the toll-free international line call your at t operator and have them dial 800-893-0903 is Well, that's what I'd be thinking about anyway.
		All right.
		Thank you.
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		One more time, 1-800-557-4627.
		Gold is absolutely going crazy.
		Have you been watching the markets lately?
		When the European Central Banks recently announced they'd not continue to sell gold in unlimited quantities, it literally unleashed a flood of buying activity by investors.
		Gold is not only the ultimate Y2K protection, but it's also an ideal hedge against the falling stock market.
		Many experts are now predicting gold could go back to $800 per ounce, maybe even higher.
		So if you've been thinking about owning some gold, now's the time to do it.
		If you have not been thinking about it, you ought to.
		I own gold myself, and I want you to call my friends at David Hall's North American Trading right now and ask for the free information about what's happening to gold.
		That's 1-800-359-4255.
		Remember, this is absolutely free.
		Call today, 1-800-359-4255.
unidentified		Quitting such a huge step.
		I don't think I can do it.
		Have you heard a smoker say that?
		Have you thought it?
		Well, with Nicoderm CQ, there is no one huge step.
		CQ has three steps, so you step down your dose gradually.
		That's the method doctors and pharmacists prefer.
		Nicoderm CQ, the power to calm, the power to comfort, the power to help you quit.
		Success improves with behavioral programs.
		Results vary.
		Use as directed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody out there want to send me an email?
		Well, you can do it at mindspring.com, artbell at mindspring.com, and it's because it's a better place.
		56K connections, People who care about you when you call.
		They have the spaminator.
		It'll get rid of all that junk email.
		Who wants that anyway?
		And on and on and on and on.
		There are a million reasons why this is a better place to be.
		I'm there.
		You should be there.
		They won from PC Computing Magazine, a very prestigious computer magazine, two years in a row.
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		They will give you, you call up and you order one month of service and they will give you two additional months free of charge.
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		There's more.
		With the unlimited account, you get an email box not just for yourself, but for your mate and your children, no matter how many you may have.
		So call MindSpring right now, and you'll be in a better place.
		It's 1-888-677-7464.
		That's 1-888-677-7464.
		We're almost done.
		I'm backed up a little, obviously.
		One more, and then it's back to the phones.
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		Would you like to lose a guaranteed average 8 to 10 pounds in the next month?
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		That's Great American Products at 1-800-557-4627.
unidentified		You've got nothing to lose but the fat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you figure it out?
		Listen.
		Listen to the voice and tell me who this is.
		Guess there's no use in hanging around.
unidentified		Guess I'll get best into the town.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll find some crowded avenue.
unidentified		No, it will be empty without you.
unidentified		Can't get used to me no matter what I try to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Time's up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's Andy Williams, and it's an awfully pretty song, one that a lot of people have forgotten about.
unidentified		Call up some girl I used to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm just like it.
		I've been on this great search for the music of the millennium, this millennium, and I wonder what it's going to be like in the next millennium.
		Probably unbearable.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		Hello.
		Hi, this is Jim.
		I'm from Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your phone is your telephone connection is not too good, Jim.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I was calling, you know how you were talking about all these cities that are suing the gun manufacturers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I'm a truck driver, and if my wife gets pregnant in my truck, shouldn't I be able to sue the truck manufacturer for building the truck?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but you might be able to sue the truck manufacturer for 18 years of child support.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Same idea.
		You know where I'm going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you going?
unidentified		I'm heading home right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're heading home now?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, give it a try.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's lawyers out there, they'll take anything.
unidentified		Well, you know what I mean.
unidentified		It's just the same idea, you know, how to sue the manufacturers for making the game.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I fully understand.
		Go ahead and do it.
		And when little Mac is about three years old, why he'll never have a problem.
		He fixed for life.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His wife gets pregnant in the truck.
		I suppose it could be the truck's fault, right?
		All that vibration?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Oh, my goodness sakes alive.
		I figured out the formula to get into your show.
		I'm so proud of myself.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Jan from Sacramento, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Jan.
unidentified		Now, this is pertaining to Dr. Crystal.
		Yes.
		I almost got in on the wildcard line that time, but missed it.
		I'm an avid skygazer.
		And one night, a couple of us were out back, and I hope you can answer this for me because we're sending me the right direction.
		I can try.
		Okay, we're out back watching up in the sky, and we saw a satellite going by, and we're commenting on it.
		Oh, check it out, satellite.
		And it starts zigzagging.
		We say, oh, drunk satellite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A drunk satellite.
unidentified		And it zigzagged about four times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Occam's razor would not point you toward saying, oh, a drunk satellite.
unidentified		But it was just bizarre.
		Well, we were drinking, so it seemed appropriate.
		I see, I see.
		So it zigzagged, and then it shot upwards and left some colored streak of light.
		I do not recall.
		It flashed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure that it wasn't when you were falling down?
unidentified		Believe me, there was a pool around it.
		I would have been soaking wet and it would have been a whole different story.
		Another talk show even.
		But has anyone seen, is that type of thing that gets reported often?
		Or is that, I mean, most people who, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we hear a lot of that, but not from people who admit they were imbibing.
		Because, you know, that usually ruins the story.
		Both people go, oh, yeah, I was thinking drunk as a skunk, sure.
unidentified		That's why I wanted to get some validity to it because I knew there was someone out there who could say, yes, this is true, because everyone who knows me says, oh, well, catch on whatever.
		There's a falling star.
		You don't see a falling star goes from one end of the horizon to the other and disappear before the tree line.
		Yep.
		It's all true.
		And one more question.
		This over-the-bow shot, I remember a long time ago you were speaking about this, and I got in and I asked some really obscure question, and you hung up on me before I could get my real question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was your real question?
unidentified		About the over-the-bow shots.
		When you're talking about satellites being knocked out by shots over the sun, I can't recall exactly the wording you used.
		Just the extreme heat, you know, like licking the earth kind of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Ed Dames kill shot and the over-the-bow shot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, what about it?
unidentified		What is the over-the-bow shot exactly?
unidentified		I never could get that answer for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, in naval parlance, over-the-bow means a warning shot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if you are at sea and you want to fire a shot across the bow of an enemy to let them know next time it's going right down the mainsail or whatever.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like a warning shot, so that's what that means.
unidentified		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that help you?
unidentified		Yeah, it did.
unidentified		You know, I was telling you my boyfriend once said tonight how you, sometimes your show is just entertaining, but some nights it makes you scared to go to sleep, and tonight is one of those nights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I were you, I wouldn't go to sleep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you think it's going to be a problem, then it may well be.
unidentified		My God, you know, I've never had so much factual things come from your show, and I say it to somebody else, they'd say, well, the Bible says that.
		Oh, my gosh, don't just compare this to the Bible.
		No, no, no, but people have confirmed everything that I've brought up.
		And I have you know, I had my mom move some stocks that she had because of the prediction about the stocks and the government bonds going to nothingness in the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never made any such predictions.
unidentified		Well, it was something to that effect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's never going to go to nothingness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have a good, strong economy.
unidentified		Well, this is way back in like a year and a half ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if the market keeps going the way it's going right now, the president will be saying that soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The economy is sound.
unidentified		Well, of course, it's all propaganda.
		But we won't close.
		We're not getting into that.
		But anyhow, no, some things that you've predicted, the show has had your predictions that have been on.
		I have told people about, and they have come true, and they believe, you know.
		So, you know, they don't think, they sometimes say your kook, and I say, you don't listen to him, do you?
		No.
		Well, therefore, don't judge.
		At least you be judged.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		So anyway, Art, I'm glad to see you're back on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whenever they say anything like that, throw the Bible at them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I've got to go.
unidentified		Yes, take care.
unidentified		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		East of the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You say you're looking for truth.
unidentified		I have a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		If someone could send you a dream through prayer and fasting, a specific dream, and then that as a bona fide, would you listen to that person on truth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the problem with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you're saying you could send me a dream.
unidentified		I could fast and request God to send you a dream and then discuss truth with you.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you were to tell me, in essence, what the dream was, which you would have to do to prove it to me, you would be subconsciously suggesting to me that I have this dream.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So when I have the dream, how would I know that you didn't simply subconsciously suggest it to me and it didn't come from God at all?
unidentified		That's fair.
		And here's my answer.
		You'll have a specific dream about a man dressed a certain way, and in his hand he'll have a certain thing.
		You'll get on the air after you've had that dream several times and call for this man who's dressed a certain way.
		I'll then call you back and tell you what the man was wearing, what he had in his hand, and what he said to you in the dream.
		Then will you listen?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's impressive.
unidentified		You've got two and a half months.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To live or to dream?
unidentified		No, two and a half months.
		Within that time period, that'll give me time to purify and fast and pray.
		Because if you are really interested in truth, brother, you're in a position to lead a lot of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have at it.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		How about it?
		Yep.
		See you later.
unidentified		That was pretty good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He had the answer ready.
		I mean, that was the problem, that he would have subconsciously suggested what I dreamed.
		But he only told me.
		It's like ripping a $100 bill in half, right?
unidentified		Pretty good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Oh, let me get the radio on.
		Yes.
		Good.
		Art here.
		Yeah, I got some answers for you to questions that you've asked and nobody's ever given you a satisfactory answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, give me the question first.
unidentified		Okay, first, your question that you like to ask Christians of what's going to happen to all these people that never heard of Christ?
		Well, yeah, I mean, the Christians are always saying they're doomed.
		Well, that's not quite what the Bible says.
		I know you say you've read the Bible cover to cover.
		I've spent many tens of thousands of hours, and that sounds like a big number, but I kind of worked it out one day just to see what it was.
		And it was multiple tens of thousands of hours in studying the Bible.
		And the same thing's going to happen to everybody.
		Simple as that.
		The Bible flat out says that Christ died for the sins of the world, not for the sins of an elite person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was the sins of man.
unidentified		Well, of mankind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I realize I only read it once, but it was man, not the world, right?
unidentified		Well, of mankind.
unidentified		The term the world speaking of all the people of the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mankind, yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, yes, but there are certain religions that nevertheless interpret all of this to mean that those who do not have the word are cooked.
unidentified		That's not what it says, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Literally.
unidentified		But that's not really what it says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know, but that's what they say.
unidentified		What you have here is perjuration through purgation.
unidentified		The Bible has been, in essence...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm with you.
		I think that it's a bunch of baloney, and if there is saving to be going on, it's good for everybody.
		So I'm with you.
unidentified		Okay, well, here's another one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another one, yes.
unidentified		Okay, You've asked what happened or what took place right before the Big Bang.
		That's right.
		Simply.
		Now, the Bible does not cover that.
		Yes, it does, in essence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		Well, how about John?
unidentified		The book of John, right at the very beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Genesis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's begin with Genesis.
unidentified		Genesis isn't the beginning of time.
		Well.
		The book of John starts with the beginning of time, not Genesis.
		Genesis starts with the recreation.
		Because what it says is in the beginning, in Genesis, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And the earth became.
		But the word there, it could be translated either became or was, and everybody likes to use was.
		But you have to go with became, Tohu and Bohu, which means desolate and in confusion.
		And God said, I am not the creator of confusion.
		Therefore, you have to, since he did not create confusion, you have to go with the translation of the word that it became desolate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but where do you find a description of what was prior to the creation of all that is?
unidentified		The book of Genesis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what does it say in there?
unidentified		Okay, it starts out with in the beginning was the word, which, by the way, means frequency modulator.
unidentified		Say, and that was Christ's original.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean it means frequency modulator?
unidentified		It's given as a title.
unidentified		God always gives people title.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now see, now you're beginning.
unidentified		Not really.
		Because really.
		Well, pretty much everybody accepts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The word could be frequency modulated or amplitude modulated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or even frequency shift keyed.
unidentified		Well, can I complete what I was trying to say?
unidentified		Then you'll understand it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go.
unidentified		Okay, now, I'm sure you're aware that the Bible says that Christ spoke everything into existence.
		See?
		That's why he was called the word, the speaker, in other words, or in modern-day language, frequency modulator.
		And that was his function in the very beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't see where you get frequency modulator.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're making that part up.
unidentified		Making it up.
		It's not to put it into an understandable.
		Well, that's okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate your call, but sorry.
		When you say it is clearly defined what existed prior to the Big Bang, and you say the word, then, well, okay.
		But when you add frequency modulated, then you're going past the point where I would be willing to accept that you're just reading something to me that describes what was prior to everything.
		Frequency modulation.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yeah, let me extinguish the radio here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, sir.
unidentified		John from El Segundo, which is just south of the LA International Airport, listening to you on COGO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm wondering what you think you think we're going to be smart enough this coming election to maybe figure that the Republicans and Democrats are just different versions of the same thing and maybe because not a chance.
unidentified		I think there's enough organizations like old Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners of California that are just so tired of being, you know, having people just take the rights and freedoms away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how do you think that's happening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's happening because they are the minority, not the majority.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The significant minority, as a matter of fact.
		We've been talking tonight about, well, for example, Colt.
		Now, Colt is like the oldest name in guns, probably in the world.
		Well, maybe not the world, but certainly this country, Colt.
		And they're going to stop manufacturing an awful lot of what they've been manufacturing.
		The gun that won the West is going to stop.
		The .45 caliber automatic, which has been the stable of military men for I don't know how long now.
		All of that is going to stop.
unidentified		Well, it just seems like a heck of a shame that people want to give up this fight because I think there's still a chance of winning it, but maybe I'm just a little Don Quixote.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think in the long term.
		I think in the long term it is going to be lost.
		But fortunately, that will really be after you and I are gone.
unidentified		Well, I remember a few, well, it was 10 years or so back in California, we had a thing called Proposition 15, and they were trying to take away Second Amendment freedoms, and they tagged something else on there that really ticked off a bunch of motorcycle people.
unidentified		And enough people got upset about it, and they actually kept it from going through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing about propositions in California is that they are proposed, they are voted on, frequently voted for, and then they immediately go to the courts where the will of the people is immediately struck down.
unidentified		Well, I've heard that from a lot of people, too, that don't vote because they say, hey, I voted for this and I voted for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you blame them for getting ticked off?
		They vote for something, it wins, and then the courts throw it out.
		Now, what form of representative democracy is that?
		Well, you tell me.
unidentified		Kind of sad.
unidentified		Maybe people should be looking more towards the libertarian or the Jesse Vintra or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but they won't.
		They'll do the same old thing.
		You want to bet dollars to donuts, it's going to be Gore or Bush.
		Probably Bush.
		Hey, say goodnight.
		Show's over.
unidentified		Good night.
unidentified		Insomniacs everywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Richard C. Hoagland and Tom Van Plandren tomorrow night.

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