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From the high desert and the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening and
or good morning across all these many prolific time zones stretching from the Tahitian and
Hawaiian Islands, exotically located in the Midwest.
Eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S.
Virgin Islands, also exotically located.
Into South America, North, all the way to the Poland, worldwide on the Internet.
Thank you, Broadcast.com, for the distribution.
And of course, the Intel Corporation for the Mathematics, which made possible the G2 Player Program, which is free.
I said free!
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Look on the left-hand side.
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Put it in your computer.
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Click on that.
And then Magic.
Here I am in living color.
And you can see and hear me doing the program.
It's an amazing thing to me.
How many people actually do that?
All right, let us see what is going on in the world, and some fair amount.
A landmark treaty to ban nuclear testing was tossed out by the Senate today.
The vote was 48 to 51, a defeat for the President, but maybe a victory for us.
Now, I know that we should all be thinking about The possibility of global thermonuclear war, and I am thinking about it a little bit.
I saw a statistic earlier on CNN that made me wonder a little bit about how wise some of these treaties we're making are.
Now, did you know that with regard to the number of warheads, we've had quite a number of treaties already, right?
The old Soviet bloc countries, Possess 23,000 warheads after we have moved this far in the various treaties to limit the number of warheads.
They have 23,000 and we have 12,000.
Now I looked at that earlier today and I thought, that doesn't seem, that doesn't seem equitable.
In other words, what kind of deals have we been making?
I thought the whole concept of this Nuclear weapons reduction, which by the way I'm certainly for, was to reduce both sides evenly, roughly evenly, to get some sort of a par.
But they've got almost twice as many nuclear warheads as we do.
Something to think about.
In Colorado, in Boulder, a grand jury has now decided there is not enough evidence to indict anybody, and so they will not, in the JonBenet Ramsey case.
It's been going on and on and on since the Christmastime 1996 murder, and so I guess there will be no new grand jury, no new investigation, and barring new evidence, it's over.
It's over.
And of course, the Ramseys maintain their innocence.
They have been the main suspects, I guess, through all of this.
And I wonder if it's really over for them now.
Only they know that for sure.
But we do live in a country, you know, where unless it can be conclusively proven that you did something, They don't convict you, at least that's the way it's supposed to work.
Right?
The AFL-CIO has given Al Gore their powerful endorsement, calling him, quote, a supporter of working families and a champion of our unions, end quote.
So there you have it.
They want Gore.
A Pat Buchanan Appears prepared to bolt the Republican Party.
Gonna take off.
He's basically saying I've had enough.
They're saying he's going to make a major announcement on October 25th.
He will be seeking the Reform Party's presidential nomination.
And so Pat Buchanan out.
Interesting.
Now.
Remember what I said about the warheads?
Hartford, Connecticut, Associated Press, Colt, Colt's manufacturing company, you know, Colt that made the six-shooter, the gun that won the West, is all but getting out of the everyday handgun business because of lawsuits against the gun industry.
They make the famous .45 caliber automatic that the U.S.
military Used during most of this century.
As I said, they make the gun that won the West.
And soon they'll not be making guns anymore.
Some classic handguns perhaps.
But looks like they're being sued out of existence virtually.
Interesting story here.
Washington of the U.S.
was, we now found out, I found out.
On the brink of war with North Korea during a crisis just five years ago according to William Perry.
Did you know that?
I didn't.
On the brink of war with North Korea five years ago.
They didn't tell us that five years ago.
Perry's remarks came during a Clinton administration announcement last month that it was easing long-standing economic sanctions against the I mean this country because another crisis over North Korea's planned missile tests had been averted by diplomacy.
But, during the summer of 94, according to Pentagon officials, the US military drew up plans to send cruise missiles and the famous F-117 stealth fighters to strike a small nuclear reactor.
Do you remember that nuclear reactor?
Now, the conclusion at the State Department, as they considered doing this, was that we would, in fact, start a war.
Of course, we did not do it.
But we came right up to the brink of another war with Korea, and nobody ever told us about that.
The plans were on the table.
The switch only had to be thrown by the President, and we'd have been at war.
That's something to consider.
You notice how they always tell you about this stuff later?
Well, yesterday the Earth had a close call with an object that passed within 200,000 miles.
That's not today's story, but there was one like it actually several times.
Well, we almost went to war.
Well, we were right on the brink.
Well, they had their finger on the button.
They never told us any of that.
We didn't know that, so they're making these plans all on their own.
I mean, they could have started a war in Korea, and there would have been not one instant of public debate about it.
Think about that.
Not one little tiny bit of public debate.
F-117s, cruise missiles, destroying a North Korean atomic plant.
I'm not sure about the advisability of that, first of all, but second of all, yeah, that would likely start a war.
And there was no public debate.
I remember we were all concerned about that nuclear plant, but I had no idea they had brought the forces right up to the brink and they were ready to, you know, go to war.
Now, Mexico.
My deepest, darkest fear.
All my life, my biggest fear has been, I know it sounds dumb, everybody has, well, by the way, what is your biggest fear?
I have always been afraid of being swallowed by the earth.
I know it sounds stupid, and people call me up and they say, Art, it doesn't happen.
You don't know anything about earthquakes.
It never happens.
You don't get swallowed.
The earth doesn't open up and swallow you.
Oh, yes it does.
I've got a story here that just occurred in Mexico entitled, Village.
Swallowed in Mexico.
Associated Press, all right?
So you know the source, AP.
Mexican troops dug cautiously into a still-shifting hillside Saturday in the hamlet of Nixon, where 17 people, including a dozen children, were buried when the earth literally opened up and swallowed the platonic Indian community, the ground Keeps moving beneath the search teams.
That's three days after something.
Nobody can quite explain precisely what destroyed the village.
One of the most remote corners of Mexico, there was no normal mudslide.
Anything of that sort.
One survivor, Anna Maria Lewis, 70 years of age, described with a circular motion of her hand, How her wooden house was, get this folks, sucked in on itself and disappeared.
As she said, it went away swirling.
My house disappeared right behind me.
It was as if it exploded downward.
Standing beside her at a shelter set up in a school, her daughter-in-law, nursed her one-year-old son and became sad when she mentioned that her other two sons, Jose 6 and Luis 4, are dead.
So, it does happen.
An entire village Now, would anybody out there mind telling me exactly what it is that could do this?
Causing the ground literally opening up, not like Bell's Hole, I guess, but opening up and swallowing people and buildings.
And imagine in your head, close your eyes, and imagine a house swirling around and around, kind of like Well, you've seen in your sink, right, how the water swirls, swirls and swirls going down.
And that's exactly how she described what occurred to her home as she stood there and watched it.
Into the earth.
Now, that really, really does bear a little bit of thought.
Personally, it scares the you-know-what out of me.
If you have some good reason to reach me or try to reach me, you are welcome to do so.
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By the way, I've been meaning to talk about that generally.
What the hell has happened to customer service in this country?
You wonder about that at all?
What has happened to customer service?
You can't even get a human being anymore.
It's a damned thing.
You call any company these days and what you get is some tangled voicemail web which may or may not ultimately provide you with some kind of choice you want And I always find myself simply looking for a way to get a human being.
And the machines are getting trickier and trickier.
They won't give you a human being.
It sounds like you're going to get a human being, but all you get is another machine that's directing you to other parts of the machine.
Caught in an endless labyrinth of voicemail.
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By the way, this village that disappeared, and it was an entire village,
for example, the school itself with all the children save a few who got out,
well, the teacher got out, a 20-year-old woman.
Unfortunately, actually even this 20-year-old woman, I guess she didn't get out, says, and the rest of the pupils were swallowed up when the earth opened, then closed in over the school.
Now, let me repeat that.
The earth opened, And then closed in over the school.
What happened down there?
That's not a mudslide.
This is the earth actually opening up and swirling things into it.
Have you ever heard of anything like that in your whole life?
I haven't.
It is my deepest, darkest fear and here it is in print.
West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
Good morning!
Yeah, this is Dan in Idaho Falls.
Hello, Dan.
Do you remember me?
I've been giving you updates on the supernova.
Oh, yes.
The experimentation being done that may well, if things go wrong, simply cause us all to blink out like we were never here, the entire planet.
No.
President Clinton has responded to me with two assassins that he sent.
Oh, baloney.
They were distributing... Oh, baloney.
Now I know who you are.
You're the guy who thinks the Sun is going to go supernova, which would fry the world, as described, and there's no question about that.
So, I guess we need not get into that technical part of your story.
You want to hear my story about the two assassins?
Well, you know what?
I don't believe it.
Say something to make me believe.
That President Clinton sent two people to have you killed.
I don't believe it.
They were distributing religious literature, and the literature was a biological weapon that causes cancer.
How do you know?
Because I got cancer.
Now wait a minute, you didn't tell me about this, what, you called a week ago, at least?
You didn't tell me this a week ago.
I didn't know at all.
So they sent you religious literature.
No, they handed it to me.
Yeah, two guys, two guys, two guys, right?
Two guys, linebackers in identical government suits.
That's right.
With little prime microphones and earphones, right?
Well, I don't know about that.
And they gave you religious literature and in one week you caught cancer.
No, this has been going on five weeks.
Five weeks.
And I did not know it until just recently.
Well... Anyhow, I have religious literature and I want to file charges against President Clinton.
Alright, well, good luck to you.
You've got to get permission to sue the government.
Anyway, you should be careful what you read.
Oh, my.
I can picture the guys in my mind right now.
There you go, sir.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
I don't believe a word of it.
we'll be right back music playing
music playing music playing
music playing That's right, I don't cheat
East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
Now, here again is Art.
Art Bell is taking your calls from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255, east of the
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Now here again is Art.
I'll tell you, this thing is just going around and around in my head.
That I can hear.
And it was only a moderate hit a long time ago, but I love it.
Maybe it's a harmony.
Or something.
I don't know.
There's something about it.
It just keeps going round and round.
Ah, music.
Anyway, we're going to continue to do this and sort of play music that is going to take you on a trip through the millennium.
What we have left of this one before the next one begins And please, please stop sending me things saying this is not going to be the new millennium.
Because whether you are technically right or wrong does not matter.
I know.
People say, I get these faxes during the day.
Don't embarrass yourself.
Don't be calling this the new millennium coming up because you're off by a year.
It doesn't actually begin until 2001.
No?
You people are fighting a losing battle.
The American public, the media, everybody else has decided the new millennium shall begin with the year 2000.
And I'm with you.
As far as I'm concerned, once the tick goes to 2000, that is significant.
And so you can send these faxes until the cows come home, but to me, it's going to be the new millennium.
And with the new millennium, no doubt, there will be some surprises.
Some good, some bad.
Stock market has not had a lot of good surprises for us lately, has it?
Last couple of days, have you been watching it?
We're down to, what, ten to something now?
October.
Not a good psychological month for anybody in the market, ever.
Ever since the crash.
I guess these kinds of things haunt us.
And I wonder if there's an economic reality to it?
Or whether... Or whether... It's just sort of a myth that has become reality.
I'm not sure it's worth thinking about.
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Angeles that on November 21st at 9 o'clock, they're going to have Y2K the movie.
Now, I was wondering, what do you think they'll do with the movie?
I mean, you couldn't very well show John and his family huddled in the corner of the house as 11-59-59 game up on December 31st.
All backed into a corner with their storable foods and everything.
And then midnight coming and they sit around and they wait and nothing happens and nothing happens and nothing happens.
Well, you couldn't have that, could you?
So Y2K the movie is going to have to show Well, frankly, the downside possibility of Y2K or else it's not going to be much of a movie.
I wonder what they're going to do.
It'll be interesting to find out.
It's bound to show the possibilities of the downside because that's what would sell a movie.
You couldn't show the family just waiting for something to happen, you know, with nothing happening.
Handle that for about 15 minutes, waiting for the other shoe to drop and then get boring.
So I'm sure they didn't do that.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
Yes.
Extinguish your radio and converse.
Thank you.
The CIA and President Clinton haven't tried to kill you, have they?
Uh, not yet.
Okay, good.
Now that's one less in the body count.
I'm prepared.
Alright, good.
Good.
Well, if somebody comes with...
Now everybody's going to be freaked out when guys with ties knock on the door, handing
you words of Jesus.
No, I let them all in.
They want me, they can have me.
I always let them in, too, and I talk to them.
I do, too.
I frustrate them, usually.
Yeah, I had...
Well, I won't say what group, but they come...
I know who they are.
Okay.
They wear ties, they ride bikes.
Right.
They're very nice.
they can finally give up on me and say, well, please take this and read it and we'll see
I know.
Well, I've already ordered both of the videos they have on the TV and the Bible and all that to see it, you know, if you're curious.
Yeah, good.
And, but I say, well, before you start your questions, this is what I want to know.
All right.
And their mouths drop open.
I know.
And they have no questions, you know, answers for it.
But anyway, what I want to discuss on the Art Bell, Monday Night Reruns Art.
Yes?
Unfortunately, I woke up at a quarter to three, and I heard from the last week, you know, Rodney with Everest he caught?
Yes.
Okay, and you said something about, well, I missed that part on Monday night and Tuesday.
Well, what do you want to know?
Okay, okay.
He sent you a picture.
No, he never did.
He was supposed to send me a picture of the lash up of the bug zappers, but he never did that.
He never did that?
No.
Doesn't mean that it didn't happen, he just may have decided not to do it.
Oh no, I believe him.
I mean, why not?
Well, I don't know if I do.
I mean, it was a very interesting story, and it may or may not be true, but it sure did sound true at the time.
I remember his throwing the portable phone into the... Oh, I heard that, yeah.
Yeah.
And his wife channeling and all that.
Oh, yeah.
And so nothing, so Rodney's disappeared, right?
Maybe the government got him.
Well, I never had any such information.
Rodney is probably still out there.
Rodney, if you're out there, what the heck fax us.
Give us an update.
Yeah, something.
Right?
Yeah.
Alright.
Okay, enjoy.
You much, Art.
Still listening and passing the word around.
Many do listen to you here in La Crosse.
La Crosse, Wisconsin.
You've got it.
RISM 1410.
AM on the dial.
That's what I do.
What is La Crosse famous for?
Clarify that for me.
What is La Crosse famous for?
I mean, there must be something special about La Crosse.
Well, I'm against it, but everything's beer, beer, beer.
Beer, huh?
Yeah, and cheeseheads.
See, I'm from California.
Don't you be insulting cheeseheads.
I'm a big fan, you know.
Oh, I know that.
I'm for the Packers all the way.
Well, then you've got to be for beer, too.
Oh, no.
No?
No, I have to solve for that.
But how can you be for the Packers and not be for beer?
Or even be for football and not be for beer.
Because if I have one beer, I will continue on.
I see.
See, a little bit of a problem there.
I fully understand.
And now I hear you've got this lady dialing like crazy up north.
All right, thank you.
I'll see you later.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, Art.
It's Vince in Minneapolis, St.
Paul.
Hey, Vince.
It's been a long time.
I used to be from Chicago.
I used to talk to you quite a bit.
Yes.
Um, you know, there's some new things that are popping up about the John F. Kennedy Jr.
plane crash that... Like what?
Well, there's a tape of a Boston TV station.
They go on and they're talking about John F. Kennedy Jr.
making radio contact with the airport just before his crash.
Yeah, I heard some rumors about that.
And what did he purportedly say?
Now the Boston TV station is denying that they ever made that report, but it's on tape.
There is a tape.
William Cooper, author of Behold a Pale Horse, played the tape on his shortwave radio station tonight.
And what did it say?
Well, they didn't say what John F. Kennedy said to the airport, but it's funny that the Boston TV station now denies that they ever made the report.
Come on, don't make me beg here.
What was the essence of the tape?
What did you hear?
Well, the TV reporters at this Boston TV station were going on about this radio contact.
Okay, no, no, no.
When Cooper the shortwave guy played this on the air, what did you hear?
It was just the TV station in Boston talking about this.
So, in other words, they didn't play the tape?
No, but they swept it under the rug and they were going on and on about this radio contact.
Well, that proves absolutely nothing.
Unless you heard the tape of the radio contact, which is what I thought you just said Cooper played, then there's nothing.
But I think there's a lot of strange things.
You know, somebody had planted a transponder away from the plane crash.
There was a transponder in the ocean.
There was, they did pick up a short transmission of a transponder of some sort, but they thought it was on land.
And this had delayed, you know, the searchers for the plane crash for quite a while.
Yeah.
Well, you know, William Cooper claims that... William Cooper claims a lot of stuff.
Well, yeah.
Too much for my taste.
But he claims that an investigator that saw the plane wreckage came forward Well, there would take a lot of things to prove that.
You'd have to have samples that have gone through the lab that show traces of the explosive and everything else.
in a bomb in the tail section of a robber bomb you know right well
uh... there would take a lot of things to approve that you'd have to uh... have
samples uh... that have been bought that you know that have gone
through the lab that show traces of the explosive and everything else
and i think it was good we did not have this man on the air to
now you can go to detail but you are different funny how they
are they buried at sea john f kennedy junior
and his wife and his sister-in-law within 24 hours after they found their bodies?
That's kind of strange.
Well, I guess it goes, I appreciate your call, by the wishes of the family.
I think that's what they wanted to have done.
No, I think it was a plane crash.
I think he was a young Student.
With some experience, but you know, there's a lot of indication that this was nothing more than a, you know, just a pilot error.
Pilot error.
But if the name Kennedy is attached to it, it can never, you know, Occam's razor, right?
That Occam's razor?
Usually the simplest, most apparent solution is the correct one.
But if the name is Kennedy, you never reach for Occam's Razor.
You reach way beyond.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Yeah, this is Wade in Tacoma.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
How you doing?
I'm doing.
Good.
Glad to hear it.
I was wondering if you've ever heard back from... Beats the Alternative.
What's that?
I said it Beats the Alternative.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Like my alternative name.
Got to go to the dentist, so I'm sure you're doing a lot better than I am.
Going to the dentist... Dr. Woods.
Yes, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Sorry, yeah, Dr. Woods, is that his name that was up here in Seattle?
Have you heard back from him at all or anything about that story recently?
Are you referring to the alien in the freezer story?
That would be the one.
Yes.
I've heard recently, yes.
There will be a follow-up pretty soon.
They're going to be coming on the air with some more details that we have not heard yet.
Really?
Really.
You know, I kind of had a theory about that.
And?
Wasn't he like a psychologist?
Correct.
Yes, yes he was.
Yeah, yeah.
I was kind of thinking, I was wondering if he was just kind of maybe doing an extra credit assignment or something like that.
I remember he was... You can always imagine that to be possible, but the man has been on the run in fear of his life, and his career is destroyed, his family, life is destroyed.
That's an awful lot to go through for an assignment.
Has any of that been verified at all?
Yep.
As far as, really?
Oh yeah, that part of it, sure.
Huh.
So, how soon do you believe you're going to have him back on the air?
They said they would call me, and the communication was about a month ago, and they said that soon there would be a reason to come back on the air and update that story, and I am going to update it.
You know, a lot of people think it's BS.
It might be, or it might be true.
I don't know.
But it's a hell of a story, and it's fun, and so we will have them back on the air and investigate as best we can.
I call it the alien in the freezer story.
And no matter what you think of it, it was told with conviction, detail, and sounded true.
That's what you would have to say of it.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
Hello, this is Jeff.
I'm just out of Columbus, Ohio, now on the road.
Okay.
Yeah.
Pleasure to talk to you.
Hey, uh, wasn't it Major Ed Daines that, uh, you talked to a while back that said he remote-viewed Amelia Earhart's airplane and they were supposed to go find it in March?
That's what, that's correct, yes.
Well, uh, he still maintains the aircraft is located, uh, in the water at the same place, but he does not have the funding nor the time to go and check it out himself.
Oh, okay.
That's what he had wanted to do, but he hasn't done that yet.
You know, it takes a lot of money.
You've got to mount an expedition to do that kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I was just wondering about that.
Hey, one of these days I'm going to send a fax to you with my phone number.
I live not too far from Asheville, North Carolina.
If you're ever in the area, get a hold of me.
I'll take you out to dinner.
Well, all right.
That's where my mom is in Asheville, North Carolina.
Yeah, I know.
My mom lives there, too.
Right.
Thank you for the call, sir, and take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi Art, this is Pamela in Seattle.
Hello Pamela.
Hi, I've got four gallons of Apple Jack brewing in my kitchen.
Why?
Because I make vinegar out of it.
And you know, I don't know why people drink beer, because Apple Jack's really the stuff.
Oh.
It is!
Alright, you're treading right on the edge.
Oh, see?
I don't understand.
This is the 17th time I've called you.
And it's about... It's going to be the 17th time.
Your call's been cut short if you go in the wrong direction.
But I don't know what direction that means.
Well, that means to the right.
To the east of the Rockies line.
You're on the air.
Hello.
Hello.
You have a hum on your audio, sir.
I'm sorry?
Hum.
Hum.
Yeah, I think it was my radio.
I've turned it off now, though.
No, it's not the radio.
Oh, now it's... Air conditioning, maybe.
We might have to talk to you, Art.
Now it's fixed.
All right.
Well, good.
I actually have about a three minute story to tell you if I can.
And it actually comes to mind.
It's a true story.
And the other day, before I went to bed here in Atlanta, I heard you talking about something in regards to propelling objects through the air using magnetics, as far as propulsion and not using a thrust.
Right.
Basically, my father encountered an engineer who was developing this technology.
And my father had a company that was in Minneapolis.
He used to work for Control Data, which was a big superpower and used to be making, I'm sorry, supercomputers along with Cray.
In 1992, he got laid off and started his own company.
By the way, sir, let me quickly interject.
Cray computers go for about 10 million bucks apiece.
Yeah, they're very expensive.
In fact, the company that he started was called Superpower, and one of the products that they created was actually the power supply system for some of the smaller Cray computers.
Are you on a portable phone?
No, I'm not.
Well, you're near something with great magnetic output, because every time you get close to it, like maybe a lamp or some sort of computer, you're close to something.
I can hear you go back and forth, and now it's clear.
Okay.
And then you get near something, and it hums.
Anyway, we don't have a lot of time, so get the last of it out.
Okay.
In his office, the gentleman next to his office was an engineer.
He used to work for Los Alamos National Laboratories, and my father came to work on a Saturday, and he had these two poles set up across the parking lot.
And my dad never met the guy next to his office, and he This guy next to him went to demonstrate this disc that my father said was about 20 pounds.
Yes.
He just let go of the disc and the thing went flying across the parking lot with nothing at all.
And the gentleman said that this technology that he was experimenting was from UFO technology because he used to work for the government.
And he was on a team with five other engineers doing reverse engineering on a UFO project.
Gotcha.
All right.
Well, we'll have to hold it right there.
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She wrote a book called Silent Invasion, the courageous true story of one woman's encounters with aliens.
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The book is the silent invasion or simply silent invasion actually.
The Shocking Discoveries of a UFO Researcher.
And these involve sightings in New York.
You may have heard of the Pine Bush area of New York.
Very, very active.
Well, Dr. Ellen, is it crystal or cristal?
Crystal.
Crystal!
Good.
All right.
Well, she's been... Europeans tend to say cristal.
I see.
Anyway, you've been photographing, it says, UFOs since 1971, and you have two 2,000 photographs?
2,000 photographs of UFOs?
Is that right?
Right.
That's a lot of UFOs for any... I have seen two in my entire lifetime, and you've got photographs of 2,000?
Yep.
Well, where to begin with all of this?
Obviously, you're really on... you're part of the in-crowd here.
In some way or another, you've had very close contact, I guess, and I don't know where to begin with you, so you tell me, where did it begin for you?
Okay.
It begins.
Well, in 1971, I went out to California just to have some fun with a friend, and the first day we were out there, we found an apartment like two blocks from Hollywood and Vine.
And the first day, we were told there were UFOs circling the night sky.
So I said, show me.
What do I know?
In Hollywood?
In Hollywood.
I take it you went to Hollywood to pursue your music career or something or another?
No, I was young.
We just went for fun.
I understand.
California, you're dreaming, right?
I guess.
Nice weather.
No particular reason.
Beach boys, whatever.
Yep.
Okay, so, you were told there were UFOs circling the Hollywood area nearly nightly, huh?
Right.
I mean, that's what we were told.
So, I said, tell me.
So, the first night, people in this apartment complex showed us things in the sky, and I said, okay, there are lights in the sky.
There's also airplanes.
You know, it was too far.
But over the next few weeks, and ultimately a few months, the lights became bigger and bigger.
All of a sudden, it was a transition from light to all of a sudden, craft.
And it was close.
It was close enough to see what it was.
And at that time, it was flying saucers.
Well, Ellen, Hollywood is a really populated area.
I know.
Now, it may be the people in Hollywood are somewhat jaded.
And it could be that a UFO would fly over.
And they'd all think, ah, nothing but a movie promotion.
I don't know.
This was your typical alien encounter where they targeted specific people.
And after my book came out, I got quite a few letters from the Hollywood and Los Angeles area from people saying that they saw ships in 1971, like the early 1970s.
So I said, well, I mean, everybody had to be seeing them.
And apparently a lot of people were.
I mean, because I had letters after my book came out, so I knew we weren't the only ones seeing it.
Oh, I have heard of that flap.
You know, I've heard various reports of Hollywood in past years, but again, people in Hollywood are so jaded in most ways that... Well, you know, you can... I mean, it's like in the town of Pine Bush, not 100% of the residents have seen what's there, and some of them don't believe it, although everybody's I've heard stories, and a lot of residents have seen what's been there for quite a number of years.
Oh, listen, I've heard the stories about Pine Bush ever since I've been looking into ufology.
Have you?
Yeah, sure.
Why is that such a hot spot?
Well, now we've sort of jumped here.
You're right.
The ships have been doing something, or the aliens, and the thing is, people say, Say, how do you know it's not our government?
Well, I've seen the aliens.
I saw the aliens in California, and I saw them... I saw the aliens in California inside the craft, and I saw the aliens in Pine Bush inside the craft.
This is absolutely excellent.
I've seen two UFOs and no aliens, so I guess let's begin there.
When you were in Hollywood, I mean, it's one thing to see a light in the sky.
It's another to see a ship.
But boy, it's a big jump to seeing an alien.
Right.
I don't make these comments lightly.
I mean, something always gets lost in the translation where the skeptics say, oh God, you know, here's another, another delusion or whatever.
But what I did, which I'm so glad I did, and I keep encouraging people to this day, when you see something or you're going to go out into, you know, and look at night, take a camera, take a video.
In 1971, I took my camera, and I went up to a hill with this friend of mine, because we wanted to see these things closer.
And when we got up on the hill, the saucer came in, and I took a bunch of pictures, and we were up there two different nights, and I took pictures, and I still have the pictures.
Where are the pictures?
You've got them now.
I have the pictures.
Did you get a copy of the book, by the way?
I got a copy of the book, but I got the trade version, and I've got a feeling that it doesn't have all of the photographs in it.
You got the little paperback.
That's right.
Well, St.
St. Martin's actually left out the illustrations, which really make it clear what I was talking
about as far as shapes of craft, because there are a number of different shapes.
And when you say triangle craft, people don't, they kind of know what you mean, but that's
one thing that St. Martin's took out.
I realized after the edition came out, because the author has no control, they took out the
illustrations, which made it more clear exactly what kind of craft I was talking about.
Well, now wait a minute.
Illustrations or photographs?
It was illustrations that went with the photographs.
And the photographs were also in there?
No, the photographs are in here, but for some reason, the publishers I've dealt with don't
understand how important it is to put these photographs in color.
Well, now what the hell's the matter with St.
Martin?
I don't know.
I fought with everybody on this.
I know what you're talking about.
I know it is expensive to put in photographs, and color photographs even more so, but it's important to your story.
That's right.
Because people want to see what you're talking about.
They want to take your word for it and, you know, like I am, show me.
And when you can't see in a photograph, it's annoying.
And what I ultimately did Because so many people ask me, aside from doing presentations where I put my photos in slide form, then everybody can see clearly the nice clear color pictures, I made some of the photographs available for sale, because people were asking me for photos, and I said, what am I going to do?
So I matted them.
All right, all right.
Tempt me.
What exactly, describe in words, How much detail is in the photograph?
Or photographs?
There's extensive detail.
How much detail?
Well, I have two photographs of five aliens.
Well, that's a lot of detail.
Now, the thing is, there's a lot going on in the photos.
So, it's not like here's an alien in a field in the sunshine waving and smiling.
It doesn't work that way.
Describe, describe at least one, your best photograph to me.
Describe it.
Well, best, you know, is all in the eye of the beholder.
I know.
Well, right now we're depending on you as the beholder as well.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'll describe the two alien photographs.
Okay.
I'll describe the circumstances of how they came to be.
Okay.
In 1980, I found out about a town called Pine Bush, New York.
I actually met a man called Harry Webelson who was Working at Omni Magazine at that time, and he knew about this town of Pine Bush, so I went with him, and we met a couple in Pine Bush, and they said, we'll take you to the field where the ships land, and that's it.
And I said, well, okay.
We'll take you out there, and then you're on your own.
But their terminology was, where the ships land.
So I said, show me where the ship's landing, you know?
And so they took us to the center of town, at Farm Town, and we got out of the car at 10 p.m.
at night, and we're instantly surrounded by at least 20 triangle crafts.
And we could see them all clearly.
They were silent.
I snapped away with my camera.
Harry had a Leica.
Harry passed away a few years ago, unfortunately.
Sorry.
Well, you know, the longer you live, the more people around you die, you find out.
You know?
I'm already finding that out.
Yeah, it's sad, you know, because up until a point, you know, if you're lucky, nobody dies, and all of a sudden, people start to die.
It's inevitable.
Yeah.
So, anyway, we snapped away.
About a week later, I guess I took about ten photographs that night.
Yeah.
About a week later, now this was 1980, I took my film to, you know, mass processing, like photomat, I think it was at that time.
Right.
You know, it takes a week to get it back.
In the meantime, we were still going up there taking pictures.
And when I got my film back, I saw all these bright sprays of color on my film.
And we're looking at my film saying, where are the ships?
This isn't what we saw.
I mean, we saw clear ships.
It took about a year for me to decipher the photos.
But it was ongoing.
So little by little, we sort of pieced together the photos.
And I realized that the ships must have been doing something for the film
to pick up what we didn't see.
So I had to do the research.
I mean, I went into the science books because I had no guide.
And in the process, about a year after I took the photos, and everybody was looking at the photos because so many people were interested.
And people started saying to me, you know, you have, like, figures in these photos.
I said, now, what are you talking about?
All right, so it's not interpretive then.
In other words, you've got to look and look and look at it.
Well, no, but you need a guide.
I had nothing.
I mean, I had no clue.
Well, I don't get it.
You were taking pictures of ships, you thought.
Right.
But what you got is sort of an interpretive picture of... It's not interpretive, though.
I guess it's hard to describe without saying it.
The ships are releasing shortwave radiation.
Now, this took me a few years to come up with because I had to do a lot of research.
I went and talked to, I think, every scientist in New York.
At the time, I was in Rutgers and also got my master's at Montclair and was still in
photography and a mixture of sciences.
I was showing my photographs to everybody and trying to get some feedback on what would
cause all these images.
I actually found people in the field of scientific photography who were interested in this.
I kind of knew where I was coming from with these photos, and they started telling me about shortwave radiation, that film is sensitive to the short wavelength, so our eyes can only see a certain portion of the spectrum.
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Film, as it turns out, can see the short wavelength, which we can't see, like the ultraviolet and x-ray.
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themselves in some manner or it's maybe a byproduct of something they're doing, if they're
giving off these emissions, the film will pick it up, but we wouldn't have known that.
And that's been the problem with all UFO photographs from day one.
Now, Mike...
Yes, but there are some extremely clear UFO photographs.
You have to be very careful with the clear photographs.
I agree with that.
In fact, you actually have to be careful, to be frank with you, with all photographs.
With all photographs, that's right.
It's not... Well, when we realized what was going on in the photographs, Because Harry was at Omni, a lot of people were sending him photographs, and he would meet with people, and we started to look at other people's photographs, and in all the photographs that we saw, that were real, they all had some kind of ultraviolet emission, or some other shortwave emission.
Yeah, well that might make sense.
Some place in the photo, it appears that this emission moves around, like it's sprayed, so it's not the same in every photo.
But once you know what's happening, You start to see it, and it's usually bluish, because ultraviolet is blue, so it tends to be bluish in the photo, but it's not, you know, it's like most people, if they take a photo of a UFO, it's like one photo or a couple photos, although a lot of people are starting to get more of a collection like I have, because they sort of get the gist of how to go, like,
Get in the center of the UFO hotspots and take a lot of pictures.
All right.
Hold it right there for a moment, Ellen, and we'll be right back.
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Once again, here is UFO researcher, Dr. Ellen Kristol.
Alright, Doctor, so you've got 2,000 photographs.
Some of them, it took you a long while to figure out, but surely some of them are clear photographs, or relatively clear.
Well, the thing is, clear is kind of an adjective that people have different ideas as to what is clear.
I mean, all of my pictures are very Clear and sharp pictures.
You still have to look at them, which is why I provide tracings in the book.
I mean, I was coming from ground zero, essentially, with any guide to tell me what the heck was going on in these pictures because of these shortwave emissions.
Well, to me, that makes them rather interpretive.
Well, they're not interpretive.
I'm sorry, Ellen, I'm just a lay-type person who looks at a photograph and says, hmm, that looks like a UFO, a disc or a UFO, or it doesn't.
I mean, you know, it's not halfway there.
It's not like, if I close my eyes and I look at that shape, I might think it's this, you know?
Alright, it would be, if you take a photograph of a person from a distance in a forest.
Yes.
I'm thinking off the top of my head of an analogy.
If nobody told you there was a person there, say it was a redwood forest.
You would not see the person until you looked at the point where they showed you.
Right.
And that's what you have here.
And sometimes you may not realize there's a person in the photograph because you're looking at the nice trees.
In your book you say you've been close enough to a UFO to touch it.
Right.
Scary.
Tell me about that.
Oh yeah, tell me about that.
Okay.
When?
When?
Over...
Well, several times in Pine Bush.
In California, actually, the event that sent me home, I couldn't touch it, but it came within about 15 feet of me.
And the next day I flew back to New Jersey.
You're in Pine Bush now, right?
No, I'm actually in the Poconos of Pennsylvania right now.
I'm about an hour from Pine Bush.
How close did you get to a UFO in Pine Bush?
Well, as I said, I was basically touching distance, but I didn't touch because nobody was telling me that if I touched it, I wouldn't get my hand burnt or eventually get cancer of the hand or, you know.
Yeah, I wouldn't likely touch a UFO.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, when it gets close, you realize it's a machine.
And it's a very sophisticated machine.
Was this thing on the ground or in the air?
No.
Well, there's one particular incident, which I talk about in the book.
There's a specific central area in Pine Bush and several other towns, actually.
And if people want to look at the map, it's a Middletown, New York area, basically, that I'm talking about.
Right.
It's lower New York State.
And everybody knew to drive in circles around the area because the ships were actually touching down on the ground.
So the one that you were near, I'm asking again, was it in the air or on the ground?
It was in the air.
I was coming down, driving down a road, and I saw light coming towards me, kind of.
So I pulled over and stopped.
And I had a camera around my neck.
I got out of the car, I was using, this was in 1986, I always used a tape recorder to talk into and get everybody's comments and whatnot.
So I saw this light coming and it was just a nebulous light and I had the car stopped
and I put the tape recorder on the hood of my car and because there's no predictability
in a sense of you don't know what's going to happen.
So I'm just standing there and all of a sudden this light is suddenly a craft and this was
one of the illustrations which they actually in the St.
Lawrence edition they took out.
It was like a small boomerang.
It was about 15 feet wide.
It had a central geodesic type of dome.
It had two sort of paddle type of flat wings which swiveled on the ground.
It didn't look anything like the stereotypical craft.
And it came towards me and simply stopped above me in the car, and I could have touched it.
So it was hovering?
It was hovering, and I couldn't... What would you say it was made out of, if you were impressed?
No, it was metal.
There was no question.
Bright, shiny metal?
Black metal?
It was partly black metal, partly silver.
And the lights on it.
I mean, anybody, I'm sure there's a lot of your audience that has had close encounters with craft.
A lot of people don't want to talk about it because it sounds absurd.
No, no, that's all right.
This is what I want to hear.
Have a field day with this because they're saying it doesn't exist.
And so like you're looking at the thing on, I mean, in my experience, I can look at it Even in the experience, half of me is saying, but the skeptics are saying it doesn't exist.
Well, if it doesn't exist, what am I looking at?
So, I couldn't lean over to even pick up my tape recorder because it was too close to me.
You were probably frozen like a deer in headlights.
Well, the thing is, this was 1986.
The thing is, this was 1986.
Pine Bush had started for me in 1980.
The longer we did it, the more we got annoyed with these guys
because we wanted them to throw us a souvenir or something.
Something nice and an alien, you know, working.
Alien keychain ring, something.
Right, right, a t-shirt.
So, um, what I did at that point, I got so annoyed, and this is the only time I ever did this, I proceeded to scream at it, he, she, Whoever was in this thing... Wait a minute, you yelled at a UFO?
Yes, I yelled at it.
At this point, I... Because it... You know, there was no conversation.
I mean, they didn't... Nobody, like, rolled down a window and said, hey, how you doing?
Just passing by.
You know, it was a silent treatment.
You could look... The whole...
The whole thing with UFOs basically is look but don't touch.
Now the abduction thing is a whole different story.
We'll get to that.
It sounds like something my wife would do.
Scream at a UFO.
So I proceeded to yell at it.
What did you say?
Can you repeat what you said?
Yeah, basically.
I said, what are you doing?
Why are you doing it this way?
Why don't you talk to anybody?
This is not the way you do things.
You know, give us something tangible.
We want to know more information.
You know.
So did it sit there and quiver?
What?
The aliens have us pegged with fear.
They know exactly what to do to really push our buttons.
What it did, it shut.
Nope.
No comment.
I mean, nobody, you know, rolled down a window.
It took one of those wings and swiveled it and fanned it over me in the car.
And I froze.
I mean, it was such like, uh, You know, a basic thing to do, and I mean, it set me right up.
I understand, yep, I understand.
You're the first person, you are the first person, Doctor, who has screamed at a UFO.
You're the first.
I've actually had somebody who hit an alien, gave it a good right hook, and it went down like a house of cards, but nobody has ever yelled at a UFO in anger, and so that's pretty good.
I've gotten a response.
And had a response, right.
And now, if you had continued to yell, I wonder if it would have, like a whale or something, swatted you with its tail.
Well, our joke was that the aliens turn the sound off and just watch our lips move.
So we could say whatever we wanted to them, and they didn't hear a thing.
They'd say, ah-ha, look at that, look at that.
Well, we sometimes had kind words.
Well, yeah, but maybe they recognize tones of voice, you know, like animals do.
I think they recognize exactly the words me and everybody else were saying to them.
And they were not kind words.
Well, we sometimes had kind words.
It's a very confusing situation because they're not talking to anybody.
I mean, we have to second guess everything.
And this is the way I operated and got all my photographs and was able to lead like 25 people into a farm field and suddenly watch a ship put on all its lights and take off.
Now they did, by the way, put the photographs you've got of the lights at Pine Bush in this book.
And they're kind of intriguing.
There's no question.
And I heard all these stories over the years about Pine Bush.
And a lot going on there.
How frequently was this occurring when you were there?
When the ships were there, this was nightly.
Nightly?
Every single night.
Now, some nights were better than others.
I mean, thousands of people throughout the 1980s were going up there, and after my book came out, it was even worse.
I mean, people were just lining every road.
Was it your book, Doctor, that began the public aspect of Pine Bush?
Not, it was, it got into a bigger aspect.
Actually, it became out of control after my book came out.
I see.
But, what, in the, around, let's see, 1980, I started in Pine Bush.
The ships actually left the area.
We noticed the activity dropping off the end of 1980, 1981.
You don't think it's because you yelled at them?
No, I didn't yell at them at that point.
It took me a few years to get up the nerve to yell at them.
In 1984, the ships actually returned full force to Pine Bush.
And Harry, at that time, had moved to Florida, so he wasn't even around.
So I thought, I don't want to see this stuff myself.
I was living in New Jersey.
I don't want to drive every night myself.
So why don't I put an ad in the paper and advertise?
You know, if anybody wants to see UFOs in lower New York State, they can get in touch with me.
So in other words, you actually began to conduct tours?
I conducted tours in the late 80s.
Early on, I actually wanted colleagues and people just to be friendly with.
Now, I'm sort of curious.
When you would get the group of people together, 20 or 30 people, however many, and how would you prepare them for the night?
What would you say to them?
Now look, you're going to have to remain very quiet and very silent, or did you tell them how to behave or what to worry about?
I basically told them what it was.
I said, we're going to be walking through farm fields.
You have to wear appropriate clothing, depending... I mean, we did this four seasons, winter and summer.
Gotcha.
I mean, in ten degree weather, we were out crunching on snow, chasing after these things.
That's devotion.
So, I just told people that weren't... And the thing is, once I started to advertise, I had no idea who was answering.
You know, and who are we taking up there?
I mean, eventually, I've made friends who I still have.
I mean, I've made lifelong friends through this.
But I would tell people it's very dark.
You know, it's a farm field at night.
Bring a flashlight.
Wear appropriate clothing.
In the summer, if you need bug spray, I don't get bitten by mosquitoes.
I never have bug spray, and I forget.
So that was one thing I always made a point to tell people.
In the winter... Did you tell them to leave their guns home?
Well, you know, that issue never came up until the late 80s when I realized that people worked actually on police forces and had guns in cars.
Oh, yes.
And then I... You know, it never occurred to me because... I mean, you shouted at a UFO.
Imagine if you shot at a UFO.
Yeah, I think the reaction would not have been good for the person doing the shooting.
Probably not.
During the movie Independence Day, you'll recall, they were actually running ads on radio and television saying, do not shoot at the UFOs.
Remember Independence Day?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, in the movie?
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
Well, I think they did.
They said, don't shoot at the UFOs.
People were shooting at them.
Yeah, well, that's, I mean, Well, you know, all the old science fiction, that's the first thing anybody does is shoot at them.
You know, it's terrible.
That's correct, yes.
And many people think that even our government is shooting at them.
Well, it's possible.
Well, that's what we do.
I mean, if there's something up there we don't understand... Yeah, shoot at it.
We shoot at it.
That's a great, great welcome, you know.
Somebody comes from God knows where and you shoot at it.
Yeah, kill them now and sort them out later.
Yeah, that shows the great intelligence of the human race.
You don't understand it, shoot it down.
Now, you saw aliens.
You actually saw alien creatures.
Right.
So, what do they look like?
Okay.
Well, I saw one in California.
And up close, and one in Pine Bush up close, and there were several incidents in Pine Bush where... Okay, just pick one and describe the alien for me.
Okay.
About roughly three and a half, four feet tall.
Short.
Very thin.
Thin.
Beige skin.
Not gray.
Beige skin.
Beige.
What's that?
Beige skin?
Beige.
Like a pale...
I was going to say, I'm sort of beige.
Yeah, well, like whiter and paler, like a sickly beige.
Okay.
Big eyes that wrapped around to the ear.
When I saw what I saw in 1980 in Pine Bush, what I saw with the aliens, the aliens did not have black eyes.
Nobody saw black eyes as far as I know.
Until Whitley Streeper started talking about black eyes.
Everybody was seeing very large yellow type of eyes.
I wouldn't like yellow eyes.
Well, they were very interesting, very scary, and very alive.
I mean, the most intriguing thing... Yellow eyes and red eyes are bad.
Well, the red eyes gets into a different connotation.
It's too Hollywood-ish.
The yellow eyes were a complete surprise, and the fact that it's The actual eye wrapped around to the ear.
Yeah, that's a lot of eyes.
I mean, these eyes were big.
Yeah, I've got you.
That's a lot of eyes.
And the thing that got me, I mean, a lot of talk about these being either robotic or manufactured, whatever.
What I saw, I mean, with these eyes, they were alive.
I mean, they blinked.
You know, I could see You could just see the emotion coming from the eye.
It was very strange.
That's a lot of eyes.
Did they have a nose?
Barely.
So, a little nose with eyes that wrapped all the way around to the ears.
Right.
Actually, when you think about it, that's a rather efficient eye.
Extremely for anything nocturnal.
Compared to us.
Right.
Well, even during the day.
I mean, for example, check it out.
How far to the right or the left can you really look?
Not very far, right?
Yeah, not that far.
But if you had an eye that wrapped all the way around to your ear, you'd have easily double vision, or better.
Right.
That's why some of the scientists, even early on, felt that these small, big eyes... Okay, hold on.
We're at the top of the hour, so we've got to pause here.
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eight hundred five five seven four six two seven once again doctor ellen crystal and on the front of her
book uh... silent invasion one of the versions anyway they have a picture of
the alien with the eye and the idea is as she said
almost from no-no's both eyes go all the way back to where your ears would be
it's ugliest damn eye you ever saw and the pupil is not a normal pupil it is a
vertical pupil That's an ugly eye.
It's different.
No, it's just flat ugly.
I mean, for human beings to consider.
So, when you saw something like that, is that a roughly accurate portrayal of what you saw?
It's not exact.
It's, I guess, close, kind of.
But it was an artistic, subjective illustration.
Of course.
They messed with it a little.
Yeah.
Okay.
But basically, was the eye like that?
It wasn't tilted.
It wasn't tilted up.
It was... More horizontal?
Right.
Right.
But yeah, the pupil was thin.
All right.
Now, when you're that close to an alien being, what happens?
You freak out.
Well, you freak out, sure.
But I mean, is there some sort of mental communication that goes on?
Does it reach out like in Close Encounters with a couple of fingers to you or what does it do?
Well, I'll explain the scenario.
This was the first night in Pine Bush that I had gone myself.
All the other times I was with a lot of people.
Right.
They don't like crowds.
Well, they like... See, that's a misnomer.
They do like crowds provided they have the control.
If it's the right crowd of people... I mean, Pine Bush, there are just, like, dozens and dozens of multiple witness sightings of close craft.
So, they like crowds provided it's extremely controlled for them.
You know, where they target a group of people.
Sure.
I don't know if I like the word target.
Well...
I use the term loosely.
Where they demonstrate for us.
Okay, demonstrate.
Targeting us at a military convention.
Yeah, you're right.
So, anyway, you were alone.
Right.
Here's the alien.
I take it the alien emerged from the ship or it was just there?
Well, what had happened is I made, first of all, all my friends thought I was going to be abducted because I wanted to go myself to experiment.
I didn't know what else to do because we're always trying to provoke reactions.
So, everybody thought I would be abducted and I figured, no, no, no.
Did you want to be abducted?
No.
No?
Well, if I'm totally awake and I have some control, if I have no control, they can keep it.
I mean, that's ridiculous to just abduct people when, you know, they have no control.
Absolutely is my feeling too.
Probes, needles.
Yeah, I don't want that.
Being strapped down, all that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
So, my only stipulation was I wouldn't walk in a field that I hadn't already walked in because there are surprise like little
creeks and barbed wire and earthly things that you trip over and break a leg on. Farmers
with shotguns.
Yeah, well, usually the farmers go to sleep early.
Usually.
I know, but, well, anyway.
Yeah, we've had a number of situations where farmers... Yeah, I'm sure.
I mean, they see somebody out there with a bunch of lights marching across their field and they're not going to take kindly to that.
Yeah, after a while they realize, you know, we weren't going to steal their cows, that we were actually looking at UFOs.
I bet some of them were worried you might be out there mutilating some of their cows.
Um, you know, there weren't, there haven't been any mutilations there, except there was one, there was one weird thing that happened long, like, years before I got into Pine Bush.
I don't remember what year it was, either in the early 70s or late 60s, where somebody actually found, somebody on, like, environmental something or other, found piles of, I think it was foxes, Piles of foxes?
Yeah, dead foxes, and nobody ever figured out what was going on with that.
But aside from that, there weren't any reports of any mutilations, which always struck us as interesting, because we always said, well, you don't mess up your own home, because we thought the ships were planted there, so they weren't going to do any destruction to a place that they needed.
The full expression I think is you don't poop where you eat.
Oh, oh, is that?
Anyway, so I'm still, I want to know about healing.
I mean, it's in front of you.
So what does it do and what do you do?
Okay, so I get into the first field that I'm familiar with, which we all stood in at the beginning.
And I'm walking around and I happen to turn around, I see a craft fully lit, go right down in a place that I
haven't walked.
All right.
Now, this was my one stipulation.
Some think, you know, they're already calling my bluff.
So, I thought about it for a while, and I mean, it's pitch black.
Anybody that knows the country at night knows how dark it is.
Very dark.
And I'm used to it, but it's still dark.
I mean, you just can't see, even if you have lights around.
Right.
So, I see this thing go down, so I said, oh great, now what do I do?
I mean, it clearly went down.
So, I thought about it, and I said, well, I'll just, like, walk over.
It was across the street, so I walked back to my car, and I said, no, I'm too nervous to do this.
So, I drove around for a while, but I never saw the ship come up.
So, a couple hours later, I said, well, let me go back over there and see what's doing.
So, then I thought, you know what?
I'll roll down my passenger window and try my flashlight out of the window.
I'll go, like, one mile an hour.
And if the flashlight shines on some metal, you know, with the ship, I'll get out and knock.
Right.
And knock.
Excuse me?
And knock?
Knock.
This was my plan.
So, well, I figured, I mean, that's my whole thing is to make some kind of contact.
Now, you've got to have a plan, so I guess... Yeah, no, this was my plan.
No, knocking is perfectly logical.
What else are you going to do?
Kick it?
Unless they had a doorbell and then...
Anyway, so I came down the street about one mile an hour, and I was shining my flashlight.
You know, you make stupid jokes like here shippy-shippy, whatever.
You know, I'm talking to myself out loud, which everybody tends to do in these situations, and I'm shining the flashlight, and I come past some forest, and the flashlight catches on something like fluttery.
So I'm thinking, oh, it's a moth.
And I'm shining the flashlight, and I'm looking at the thing, and I was in a little clearing at that point.
And I'm saying, well, that's not a moth.
What is that?
And my foot is on the brake at this point.
And I'm shining the light, and then I happen to see there's something below what I think is a moth.
So I'm shining the flashlight down, and part of me, it's starting to sink in.
Well, this thing ran across this little clearing and stopped.
And when it stopped, my whole flashlight lit this thing.
And that's when I saw this basically three and a half foot tall being.
It just stood there.
And what threw me off, and I discuss this at length in the book, is it had a worried look on its face.
A worried look?
A worried look.
And it so surprised me that it took away my fear.
In other words, it's looking worried, so you're feeling relatively, I guess, safe, because you're obviously freaking it out.
I couldn't figure out what was going on.
I'm thinking, why is this thing worried?
I'm worried.
This thing should not be worried.
I hear you.
I'm trying to analyze it, so the fear was lessened because I'm trying to figure out, but this thing is looking worried.
What the heck is wrong?
And suddenly I realized I was totally paralyzed with fear.
I mean, I couldn't even breathe properly.
And I was trying to talk and nothing was coming out.
I felt like a fool.
Maybe the alien was in the same condition.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, but the thing is, if it had gotten out of the craft and walked, it could have just hid in the bush.
This is why I think everything they do is so planned.
It could have hit in the bush, and I never would have seen it, would have just driven right on by.
But when I came to that clearing, it was running across the clearing, right in my flashlight, and it stopped.
It could have kept going.
I mean, I don't know if I would have followed it into... So it just stood there?
It just stood there, with a worried look.
Okay, with a worried look.
So who moved first?
Well, I kept trying to talk, and I don't know if anybody...
If anybody at all knows, has ever been in a situation where you're frightened out of your wits, you're totally paralyzed with fear.
You can't do anything.
You can't even move.
Gotcha.
So, I'm trying to go, uh, uh, uh, and nothing's coming out.
And the thing is, is standing there with this worried look, and all of a sudden, I get this immense feeling of power from this thing.
Oh.
This isn't like Tinker Toys now.
Or, you know, this isn't a child on a playground.
I mean, I just got this awesome feeling of power.
And I said... You mean just generally power, or power over it?
No, that it had a power that was much greater than I could ever know.
And this was not like some kid that you run into, you know.
And when I felt that, I said, you know what?
Just throw it and get out of here.
So I hit the accelerator and drove about a mile to the stop sign, and I stopped, and then I got mad at myself because I'm thinking... What the hell am I out here for?
I found it, now I'm running away.
That's exactly it.
I'm trying to make contact, and all of a sudden, you know, I hit the gas.
Yep.
Well, it's a natural reaction, though.
I would have done the same thing.
I had to drive to a parking lot and sit there for... I sat there for at least two hours.
I could not drive.
Like, totally.
So you didn't go back then right away?
No, I didn't go back there that night at all.
Oh.
I mean, that was it.
I mean, I sat in the parking lot, and as I'm sitting... You know, your mind starts to analyze what you've seen versus what the skeptics are saying versus what's supposed to be.
I mean... Alright, the skeptics are saying, obviously, you hallucinated all of this, right?
Well, it doesn't exist!
They're saying you hallucinated, right?
What's that?
Isn't that what they're saying?
That you hallucinate?
Well, that's a delusion.
It's a fantasy or some nonsense they come up with.
Some psychological... And you're sure it was not that, right?
Well, no.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I mean, I was looking at the thing.
Are you sure or relatively sure?
No, no.
I was looking at the thing.
I'm 100% sure.
I was wide awake looking at the thing.
And I'd seen the craft go down.
And I never expected... Yeah, you keep saying go down.
That could mean crash or land.
No, land.
Land.
I saw it land.
Alright.
You actually saw it touch the ground.
Well, I saw it... I say go down because I saw it sink into the trees.
Gotcha.
Now, whether it actually touched the ground or was two feet above it... I understand.
I've got you.
You know, I don't know.
It got low enough for this little guy to hop out.
Right.
And the thing is, I never expected to see a being.
I had this plan.
I was going to see the metal.
You were going to see what?
The metal of the craft.
Oh, the metal of the craft.
Right, that's right.
That's what you said you were looking for at first.
Yeah.
Right.
I was going to drive one mile an hour and find the metal of the craft and get out and knock.
Do you think you would have actually, just out of curiosity, actually have gotten out of the car and knocked?
Yeah, I think at that point, because I had made up my mind that this was my plan.
So, I mean, I might have, like, knocked with maybe a flashlight.
I'm very reluctant to say that if I had the chance, would I put my hand on a working piece of alien equipment that is hovering, that I know already has given people radiation poisoning in the past.
I mean, I'm not going to put my hand on it.
I'll take, you know, a flashlight or something and knock on it.
But I was going to knock.
That was still the plan I had.
I mean, I never in a million years expected to see a being, and the whole thing didn't make sense unless... The only way I could explain it was that they staged this, that it was deliberate, that this thing... They wanted you to see this being.
Right.
Why?
From early on in the California days, it was obvious to me that they wanted me to see the whole picture.
Because they didn't let me leave California.
Well, the impetus that... Now, I'm going to give you this.
Some of the most serious researchers into ufology today, and I know some really serious ones, all believe that what's going on right now are, in fact, demonstrations.
Whether it's crafted or seen, or dimensional portals, or even alien beings, all of it is demonstration for us.
But, you know, I wonder why Such selective demonstrations.
We don't know what they want, and this has been the problem all along.
We're second-guessing the situation, because they're not telling us anything.
There's no information coming from the aliens.
I mean, nobody's talking.
So we have to second-guess what they're doing and what they want.
What do you think?
Oh, that's a whole different ball of wax!
Well, that's what I asked.
What do you think?
This is what I talk about in the book.
There are these hotspots like Pine Bush around the world.
You have to get into the hotspots and really work at them to see these crafts And also, I want to say, I have about 100 segments of videotape
also of the crash.
Oh, do you?
Yeah, and so do my colleagues.
All right, but again, the question is, what do you think they want?
I think in these hot spots, a lot of the hot spots, they've built something underground.
Something that's permanent.
And we've had equipment out.
I've had experiences where we were blasted from air coming up from the ground.
And I also discuss this in my book.
Well, either beneath the ground or beneath the sea would both be equally good places to stay out of sight, wouldn't they?
Well, and to build whatever you're building.
Some kind of major structure to house craft and laboratories and all kinds of things.
Maybe large pens.
Pens?
Pens.
You know, like holding areas.
Well, yeah, I mean, it could be for any reason, but I mean, I've talked to people.
How about the breathing thing?
Well, it's not working.
Whatever they're doing isn't working.
I mean, it should be obvious.
See, people tend to say, like, the aliens are experimenting.
This always bothered me.
Listen, we've got to hold that.
Hold it right there.
Stay right there, and we'll come back and talk about the breeding thing.
You know, they want our genes.
Both kinds.
We'll be right back.
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UFOs for years.
2,000 photographs, personal encounters with UFOs, a photograph of one of the aliens, not quite accurate, but close, the book called Silent Invasion.
You can get it on my website through Amazon.com, or we'll talk about, I guess, how you can get it otherwise.
But I was asking about the breeding thing, you know?
I mean, it's long been known that they favor Earth women and that sort of thing.
That they may be coming after our genes or whatever.
And you said, well, they're not doing a very good job of it or something.
That made me think, well, does this mean it was like an unsatisfactory encounter that you had or not at all?
Let me just say that Silent Invasion is also, it's in stores.
But it might not be on the shelf, so you have to ask and they'll order it.
Yeah, they go into the computer and there it'll be.
Yeah, it's supposed to be on the shelf.
You can get it on Amazon though, right?
Right, right.
Many, many, many, many stories, Ellen, of abduction involving, you know, some sort of sexual encounter and then eventually some sort of half-human, half-alien offspring.
Yeah, but apparently they don't live.
I mean, they're certainly not walking around.
My point earlier was that everybody says, oh, the aliens are experimenting with this, that, and the other thing.
But everything that I've seen leads me to believe that it's not an experiment.
They're actually doing something.
There's a big difference.
They're light years beyond that experimental stage.
They're actually working on something.
What?
Well, we can only guess.
Well, do you believe the stories of women, and believe me, I've had them on the air, who claim to have had sex with lizards, lizard alien-like things, and all sorts of alien creatures, and been impregnated, and then later seen their offspring, and all this sort of thing, on ships, all of that?
Yes, but not... A lot of people think it's glamorous to be abducted, and I don't know why they think it's glamorous to be abducted, but it's not glamorous.
I mean, people that have been abducted have really had their lives ruined, and there are a lot of women that had these mystery pregnancies that disappeared.
Not the women, the fetus disappeared, and the doctor couldn't explain it.
That's right.
And that's worldwide.
You know, unfortunately, like a lot of things, this is a male-dominated field, and women tend to be the victims.
They're still the victims.
And if a woman makes a claim, a lot of men laugh at it.
Even more so when it involves an alien.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, much more so.
So you believe a lot of those stories?
Oh, well, I know a lot of people that have been abducted.
And even in Pine Bush, I found just tons of people that have been abducted that don't want to be on television.
They don't want anybody to know.
I mean, they told me in confidence.
It basically wrecked marriages.
Oh, yeah.
Scared the kids.
Yeah, like the husband is really going to buy that story.
Well, the husband, the thing is, you usually had like the family was seeing craft and anything
else going on on a regular basis.
But there's a big difference between seeing craft, seeing a light in the sky, seeing craft
up close and being abducted.
There's a huge difference.
And my whole, I've been trying to promote that most people are going to see lights in
the sky that do unexplained things or even close craft that really shouldn't be flying
Ellen, do you believe that people who want it to happen, and I have them call here all the time, say, I want to be abducted.
I'm dying to be abducted.
Yeah, they call and say that all the time, and I say you should be very careful what you wish for.
But do you think generally that people who want to see lights, want to see craft, want to see aliens, want to be abducted, are more likely to be?
No.
You don't?
Nope.
Nope.
So wishing and hoping won't get you anywhere?
Yeah, I mean, I can wish for all kinds of things and it ain't gonna happen.
Um, I, yeah, I've been, I mean, I've told As I said, when I was, I mean many times when I've seen the craft, it was a joke with anybody standing there, give us a ride, give us a ride.
And there it went on by, you know, no ride.
You know, it's just because you wish for it doesn't make it so.
So the biggest reaction you ever had from any craft was when you yelled at it?
No, I wouldn't say, I'd say that's the closest reaction.
That wasn't, I mean, I've had many reactions from the craft over the years, but that, because it was over, you know, a few feet from me.
You understand why people are skeptical about this, right?
Well, yeah, I mean, even when I, I always say this, even when I'm standing there, having these sightings, all the sightings I've had in the past, even when I'm standing on the street, even if there are 50 people all watching this, all photographing and filming and videotaping, I'm looking at it saying, it's hard for me to believe this is here, and it's so covered up, and the whole world isn't seeing this stuff, and it's not open, and everyday news, so I can understand why the skeptics have a field day with it.
Hasn't it occurred to you that with the kind of encounters you've had, you are a likely abductee?
I tend to doubt it.
I don't know.
Well, you know, up until the early 80s, I guess, when Bud's first book, Bud Hopkins' first book, Missing Time, came out, nobody, you know, you don't keep track of time, except in the most general sense, and as soon as he started in with this Missing Time stuff, boy, we checked the minute-by-minute accounts, you know, but we, I had already been doing it.
And all your minutes were accounted for?
There are a handful of nights that I, especially in California, but to know... Alright, so now wait a minute, don't gloss over this now.
You have missing time, is what you're saying.
No, there are a handful of questionable incidents.
Now, yeah, there may be missing time, but there are some very specific symptoms that go with abduction.
And not all of the symptoms, in fact, I can say Almost all of the symptoms are not publicized.
All right.
Let's publicize them right now.
What are they?
No, we're not going to publicize them now.
No?
Give me a couple.
Well, okay, I'll give you the general.
Usually, the symptoms that have been publicized, generally, when a person is abducted, if it's completely obscure, if maybe they know something happened, but they're not sure, It can be weeks or months before they start having nightmares about it.
It'll come out in dreams, and slowly their life begins to unravel because it's so deep-rooted that they begin not to be able to function properly.
So something has put a block on the memory, but it begins to come back first in the subconscious in the form of dreams.
Generally speaking.
I mean, there are a lot of people that have been abducted that were wide awake and remember clearly.
I mean, there's no mystery.
But there are a lot of people that, and I understand, I can understand why the aliens would want somebody knocked out.
They don't want, I mean, people get scared.
They don't want somebody apparently to die of a heart attack.
That's right.
From fear.
I mean, they have to do whatever they're doing.
And they don't want any... I mean, I've heard all kinds of stories about people becoming violent or attempting to be violent with the aliens.
Oh, absolutely.
So, I mean, there's a full gamut of things happening.
So I can see why the aliens would want to knock somebody out and perform whatever they're performing.
But there are a lot of people that have been awake Maybe they know, before they take you, whether you can handle it or not.
And if not, then you are given an anesthetic, so to speak.
Probably.
The question is, what are they doing with us?
What do you think they're doing with us?
Well, I think the breeding is part of it.
I always thought that they had a health problem that was fatal to their species.
I mean, I talk about this also in Silent Invasion.
Because the only reason... I mean, technology costs money.
That's right.
In some manner.
Whatever money you use.
If somebody has to build ships... These are not just like rinky-dink tubs of metal.
I mean, these are... Sophisticated craft, yes.
Yeah, I mean, these put Hollywood to shame.
I mean, when you see these crafts up close, you know, the movies, Hollywood movies only
begin to, you know, touch on these crafts.
So somebody had to build these.
It cost a lot of money.
They're coming from someplace.
I always think that these small crafts are coming from something that's based someplace
nearby and nearby...
A mothership.
Well, or some kind of space station, either in the solar system or even out of the solar
system, but certainly out of the range of astronomers.
I think it would be on the far side of the moon.
Well, absolutely.
Anything out of the range on the far side of any planet.
These aliens are not, I mean, they're just like that.
Well, I mean, you've got a good point.
So they're spending a lot of money, gross national alien product.
To get these ships here to do something with us.
Yeah, so they're not doing it for fun and games, and they're not experimenting.
Everything is too perfect.
They have the whole routine perfect.
They have us pegged perfectly.
They know our reactions.
They know how everybody's going to behave.
They know what to do with the photographs to confuse people.
They know how to really mess up your perception.
They do a good job messing with people's minds.
And everything is perfect.
There are no mistakes.
I mean, there's so many times when we've been in fields where the ships were in, the ships took off, and we combed the field looking for something that they may have left behind accidentally.
And only one time in all the years I did this, did a ship actually come back and do, I forget what it's called, the military has a name for it, you go across a field, back and forth over a field, Well, there was one in Vietnam called Search and Destroy.
Well, no, that's not it.
But there was only one time, but it startled us because we had actually gone into a field and had no hint that a ship was there.
I mean, there were about, I don't know, 15 of us.
And the joke was, you know, it was like the blind leading the blind.
Everybody would just follow me.
I'd just pick a field and run into it.
And all of a sudden, the lights of a craft would be turning on and lifting off.
Did it not ever occur to you that what you were doing was potentially really dangerous?
Absolutely!
And a lot of times, I would tell people... Well, what about the liability of the crowds that were with you?
These 20 or 30 people at a time.
I mean, what if one of them got Well, you know, whatever.
I mean, you'd be... With whatever?
Abducted?
Well... Abducted is not my responsibility.
Well, did you have them sign waivers?
No, but I tried on a lot of occasions to tell people that this, you know, what the potential hazard was.
And a lot of people kind of understood.
But a lot of people came back over and over again.
I mean, they didn't just have one sighting.
They came, you know, weekly or...
You know, on a regular basis of some sort.
So then, really, a lot of the people that were with you really were the same kind of people that call me and say they want to be abducted?
Um... No, uh... I don't think so.
I think, uh... It's a mixed bag.
I don't... I don't know anybody that I've come and... that I've spoken to or been friends with... I don't know anybody that wants to be abducted.
I know people that have been abducted, but they didn't want to be abducted.
Well, look, if you get together with somebody like yourself and you go out into the field looking for spaceships, you've got to imagine that's one possibility.
Well, that's right, but it never really happened to any of us while we were out there, certainly not as a group.
How would you have explained to the family Of the person that you had taken out of there, out there, if they were suddenly taken away.
I mean, what would you have said to the family?
And the sheriff?
But the ships always bring people back.
Or almost always, let's put it that way.
Everybody knew what we were doing.
I think most people understood the risks.
And at one point I did try and tell people, look, there's always a chance we can get abducted.
More than being abducted, My worst fear, and it still is, is running after these things and have something happen to the craft where it actually crashes.
Because, you know, the military's going to be there in ten minutes.
You mean like if you were the cause of the crash?
No!
No, something went wrong with the craft.
I mean, these are mechanical devices.
Yeah, but they're good ones.
You said that earlier.
Well, not always.
Not always.
This is Roswell, and there's some other... Well, there's... Roswell was only one.
You know, there are about 300 crashes.
Since Roswell.
300 crashes.
Yeah, there was a man named Leonard Stringfield who had... I know Leonard.
Yeah, he comprised a whole list of crashes.
And I mean, up to 1980.
I have heard many of them.
South America, Africa.
Well, worldwide.
Yeah, worldwide.
That's right.
Yeah, including, I mean, I published a newsletter called Contact Me for 8 Years.
And I got the most incredible reports, even military reports of things with aliens and
ships in Cambodia and Vietnam, and I printed them.
People can still get back issues.
In fact, my address is in the back of the book.
Actually, I guess I could give my address.
Can I do that?
Do you have an email address?
No, I don't.
I fell behind the times.
I see.
That's all right.
I'll give my address out.
Go ahead.
My last name is spelled C-R-Y-S-P-A-L-L, and yes, that is my real name.
1442 Hemlock Farms.
How do you spell that?
It's H-E-M-L-O-C-K, just like the plant.
Farms, as in funny.
And it's Hawley, H-A-W-L-E-Y, Pennsylvania, 1-H-4-2-8.
And it is not a street address.
You cannot show up at my door.
I'm in a private gated community in the heart of the Poconos.
So, just to let people know, but I answer all my mail.
Did you find that people did that a lot when they could get to you?
What's that?
Well, I mean like come up and knock on your door.
Well, a lot of people have come to the gates here trying to get in.
And the guards have called me, so on several occasions I went out to... What do you think these people wanted?
Um, conversation.
Just somebody to talk to who would, um... And most of the people were completely normal.
I mean, just regular people.
They didn't... They had a great interest in it, and, um...
I think a lot of people think I left a lot of things out of the book.
Did you?
Uh-huh.
See, that was a long enough pause.
You did leave things out of the book, didn't you?
Well, sure.
You have to for editing purposes and, you know, there are just some things that I didn't put in there.
Oh, listen, can you afford one more hour?
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Okay.
And plus, I want to know these little editing things that you left out of the book.
That pause was very telling.
You can really tell when a person pauses like that.
I think it was not just a simple little ah or the.
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Alright, Dr. Ellen Kristol, what did you not put in the book?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
He's dying to ask me that.
That's right.
Well, what I didn't put in the book, I'm...
I've written a second book, but the publishers aren't buying UFO books these days.
Then you can reveal it safely here, then.
Well, I'm not going to do that.
Oh, come on.
Now I'm really dying.
Give me a hint.
Generally speaking, I mean, everything is basically in silent invasion, generally speaking.
You know, they're always... Generally speaking.
Now, come on now.
You're telling me, essentially, you've got enough to write another book.
I have enough, yeah, for another... Well, so then there's got to be... Well, then there's got to be a lot more.
Yeah, there is a... I consider Silent Invasion as me being in elementary school, and since this now... since that time, I'm in post-graduate school for UFOs.
Actually, now you do sound like Whitley Strieber.
He's a very good friend of mine.
I'm sure you know Whitley, don't you?
Yeah, I know Whitley.
Well, I mean, the person who wrote Fats is right.
Whitley had a very serious encounter.
You had, well, it was a serious encounter, no doubt about it.
Or a series of encounters, I guess.
A series of serious encounters.
All right.
Well, you sure you don't want to tell us something big that's not in this book?
I know there is.
I mean, I can tell from your voice.
Well, I'm trying to think of something specific, and I can't think of anything particularly that I specifically left out of the book.
I mean, the only thing I really wanted to say in Silent Invasion that I didn't, and actually it's better for a second book, is that the Aliens, in my opinion, from what I've seen, the aliens are here to stay, and that they tend to bring their whole operation underground.
And I'm not talking about, like, shovel digging where you can, you know, tunnel your way in.
I mean, they've got the equipment to really go, like, miles underground and hide.
And you think that's where they are?
That's what I think.
That they're bringing all these operations.
They start on the surface, and they have to bring all the equipment in.
And actually, we've seen them bringing ships in which had loading platforms.
Well, look here.
I have talked to a lot of abductees, getting very serious for a moment, who have claimed they were taken underground.
Moreover, that they experienced not just aliens, but our military as well.
Yeah, I mean, there's just so many aspects to this and even like with Pine Bush, it dawned on us at some point that we were being watched by humans and we always felt that somebody or some group of people in various houses were living there specifically to monitor the alien situation and The human situation, because there's no way the aliens could do what they're doing without help from humans.
All right.
Well, let's take some calls.
And you never know what you're going to get, so here we go.
First on caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Kristol.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing tonight?
I'm all right.
Where are you?
I'm here in New Orleans.
New Orleans.
All right.
My name is Al.
How you doing, Helen?
Okay, Ellen.
Ellen, I'm sorry, excuse me.
I have a question to ask Ellen that may relate her alien to the Starchild.
Okay.
When the eyes specifically, and they sound like very interesting eyes, did they move the eyes themselves or the pupil of the eye to track objects or did it remain fixed?
No, it moved like our eyes move.
The pupil moved, I mean, It moved in the same manner that our eyes moved as far as the pupil, you know, looking and, I mean, it looked like... The big difference here was that the pupil was vertical.
And it was yellow.
It was a very intense yellow.
Well, you know, with the idea of an eye that runs all the way to the ear...
You know, did it track a lot to the left and right or more up and down?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I didn't see it long enough to, you know... Make that kind of observation.
Alright, let me tell you why I'm asking this.
I'm a chiropractor.
Uh-huh.
And as part of my professional training, we had an awful lot of anatomy.
Very specific anatomy about all the little bumps, the bumpsies on bones where the muscles attach.
And what I learned from listening to your program, Art, that in the orbits of the star child, there were very few
bumpsies that which you normally would expect to see the extraocular muscles attached. And
what I read in the New Orleans newspaper about the star child, and from what I heard in
your program, the type of eye that Ellen is describing is the type of eye you would expect to
see on an anatomically complete star child if the osteological information is correct.
What's a star child? She wants to know what a star child is.
Oh, I'd like to see.
You can tell her in a second if I can tell you one more thing about Trenton, New Jersey.
You sound like you're from New Jersey and you didn't say New Orleans the way they normally say it.
No, sir.
I'm born and raised in New Orleans.
We talk real fast down here.
Really?
Yes, sir.
I once had a lecture to a girl from New York and she had to ask me to slow down.
That's amazing.
I mean, you actually sound like a New Yorker or somebody from New Jersey.
That's what all the New Yorkers kept saying to me.
The kids kept saying, hang out, hang out.
You cannot possibly be from New Orleans.
Born and raised in New Orleans?
Yes, sir.
Have you ever come to New Orleans?
Hard to believe.
You have a little bit of furrow down there.
No, you tell her what a star child is.
Very good.
A star child is the skeletal remains of an infant that was, well, a five or six year old child that was found in a mine shaft in Mexico with the remains of an adult woman, apparently.
And the Starchild skull has very unusual anatomical features.
A very deformed human skull, or possibly an alien-human hybrid skull.
Similar eyes to what you have described, Doctor.
Well, that's what the bony evidence would indicate.
Basically, eyes that don't need extraocular muscles to move.
It would have panoramic vision.
Simply by the size of the eye.
Oh, I see what you mean.
It absolutely would, really.
You can see that clearly.
Yeah.
And another point I want to make that does relate to the Starchild directly, and Ellen, I'm not meaning to steal your thunder, it's just that these pieces do pull together, and one seems to be on credibility to the other.
Trenton, New Jersey is dead north of the Bermuda Triangle, is dead north of Columbia, dead north of the Gnostic Plains.
Dead north of the Andes, the home of the Incans, the Mayans, typical Waddle, and that wall carving that Van Donken claimed was a Mayan getting ready to take off on a rocket ship.
It's a north-south line.
So Trenton doesn't figure into our conversation.
New Jersey?
We're talking about the state of New Jersey, right?
Yep.
The 75th?
New York, New York, well actually New York and... Well New York State, well New Jersey is sightings.
Would all be in line, you know.
It's all, but I'm telling you, that area of the United States is dead north of the Andes.
And I've heard people talk in your program on about the concept that some of these crafts might fly in magnetic lines.
That's right.
Or even if you were based on the NASTEC planes, sending reconnaissance dead north and finding something in Trenton that was intriguing.
Alright sir, I appreciate the call.
Thank you and take care.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
Hi.
Hi Art.
Hi, where are you?
Claudia from South Lake Tahoe.
Okay.
I have a couple questions.
I had a series of dreams one time and they lasted a week and every night I saw like a panel of beings sitting at a table and they gave me a huge amount of information every single night for a full week.
And it was like scientific information, why we're here, what water's made of, how to plant it.
You know, just endless amounts.
It seemed like I went from kindergarten to Harvard in a week.
Right.
And has that happened to you before?
Um, no.
In your dreams?
And after that, I had sat down and I had drew these drawings, and they're black and white, my graphics, but they have UFOs.
I mean, it's just incredible.
It looked like a draftsman did it, and I've never drew in my whole life.
And I took it to Sydney University to a professor of art, and he couldn't believe that they were done.
I had never, I mean, not even on stick people, you know, and I drew these drawings.
And do you collect, like, any kind of artwork or anything?
Do people, like, have any drawings that you've collected before?
From people who have had experience?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I have tons of pieces of artwork from... You do?
Oh yeah.
You know, I think people are compelled to try to reproduce what they saw.
Yeah, that's what it is.
It is.
It's like you have to sit down.
I did like ten in a row.
Their poster size are huge.
And I still look at it to this day and I can't believe that I did it and I've never drew again.
I have no desire to draw.
Well, any event that makes an impact on a person's life, the most obvious expression is either writing or drawing it.
Of course.
And one other thing, I had these dreams, and they had shown me some past lives, and at the end of the dream, I saw this, like, E.B.
person, and he just shut the window right as soon as it was done.
It was so weird!
And then one other thing, I was driving down the street, and I saw this triangle in the sky, and it had, like, Egyptian writing on it, and I thought, oh my God, I'm just seeing, it wasn't a ship, it was just a shape, a triangle shape with this writing in it, and I pulled to the side of the road, and I asked I don't know.
about 20, just to make sure that I was seeing what I was seeing.
I said, do you see the thing in the sky?
And he goes, yeah, what the hell is it?
He started running across the street.
And afterwards, I had heard in another book that that might have been a porthole.
Have you ever heard of that or anything like that?
Not really.
I can't tell you what you saw.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, there's so many things people see.
And what I also noticed with a lot of times with the ships, and there are a number of different shapes of craft,
and depending on how you're viewing the craft depends on how you perceive the shape.
So you may misperceive what you're seeing.
You know, the triangle may have been a craft, but you didn't really see the rest of it for some reason.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Kristol.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Hi, Ellen.
Hi.
Where are you, sir?
I'm in Little Rock, Arkansas.
And what inquiry do you have?
I'm still at work, matter of fact.
Oh, boy.
I just looked at the clock.
I know it's coming up on break time.
You've got enough time.
It's going to take me a few minutes because... Well, condense it for us.
Well, I'll try.
What I experienced was, and maybe Ellen can help me with this, I don't know if it was an abduction experience or if it was actually a dream or actually was a sequence of dreams.
Within one night, I had what I thought was a dream that I would wake up, go back to sleep, pick up exactly where I left off.
times in a row within the same night. I've never talked to anybody that had that happen
before. They used to try to make it happen, and that was unsuccessful. It had to do with
some government technology and UFOs and stuff. I'm trying to condense this here.
There's an acronym that I want to tell you. If anybody knows what this means or has experienced
it, I think... What is it?
Thank you.
Well, there was an embroidery that I saw on the back of a technician, for lack of a better term, when I was aboard this craft.
Right.
And it's... Alright, this obviously is going to take a while.
Yeah, it is.
Alright, hold on.
We'll do the break and come back to you, all right?
Okay, thank you.
All right, because I want to see what the symbol is, frankly.
Embroidery on the back of the technician during an abduction experience.
We shall see.
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I'm curious about the symbol that was on the back of the technician's, what, jacket?
Coat?
Yes.
Whatever.
What was it?
Well, first of all, let me say I apologize for not being able to articulate.
That's right.
Just tell us what it was, sir.
Okay, this was an event that took place over about a five-hour period one night, where I thought it was a dream.
Yeah, we got all that.
Give us the symbol, please.
Well, okay.
I'm getting there, because I think this is pretty important.
I know that the technicians, or I say that for lack of a better term, that I saw aboard this craft were They were very humanoid.
I perceived them, or I felt in the dream or experience, whatever it was, that they were government.
Be that as it may, I'm sorry to press you, but please.
Okay, well, I'm getting there.
Not fast enough.
Just say it.
Yeah, just say it.
What I saw on the back of these white lab coats, right underneath the collar, said,
Department of Research Engineering.
Now, let me- That's very earthly.
Well, I know.
Exactly.
Let me elaborate.
When I saw it, immediately, in this dream or whatever it was, I said, okay, I've got
to remember this.
I associated it with an acronym.
I said, DORE.
D-O-R-E.
Right.
Now, the thing that was interesting is I thought, okay, this is different than Department of
Engineering Research.
In other words, finding different ways to engineer certain technologies.
This was a way to do different means of research as opposed to engineering.
All right, we'll hold it right there.
Ellen?
Well, I have no idea.
He's saying it could have just been a dream.
It's obviously just a play on words, and we don't know if it was a dream or a real event.
But see, isn't that what people say to you?
No.
How do you know it was not a dream as opposed to a real event?
Well, this is one of the big misnomers about the abduction.
All the abductees... I mean...
Well, most of the abductees remember some aspect of their abduction.
They know it wasn't a dream.
Yeah.
And there was one case where... The thing is, in Pine Bush, my whole point was to get to the ships and make contact.
What I found in the process was so many people abducted, and one guy who was abducted, he went to sleep at night, He remembers being, you know, he could have said it could have been a dream, except he remembers being dragged downstairs, and there were no stairs in his house, and when he woke up, he had a broken leg.
He had a real broken leg.
Gotcha.
Now, that's not a dream.
No, that's not a dream.
And he had no stairs in his house.
No stairs.
And he had been through five years of analysis through traditional means, and nothing was doing anything.
And his family was wrecked, he lost his job.
Yeah, I know.
All of this, actually, even though I've been having fun with you this morning, all of this really is very serious.
And you're right.
Marriages and families have been destroyed.
So, all the abductees remember some aspect of it specifically.
They know it wasn't a dream because they know they were someplace.
Okay.
So, if you wonder whether it's a dream, then it might... It's probably a dream.
Yeah.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Kristol.
Hi.
Yeah, thank you.
My name is Zan.
I'm calling from Los Angeles.
Yes, sir.
And this book sounds like one I've got to get.
I have a question for you, Ellen.
How are you sure that these are from another planet and not just the goblins that people have been reporting for thousands of years dragging people off to fairy land and underground and stuff?
That seems to make sense to me, too.
Actually, that's an awfully good question.
Do we actually know they originated elsewhere?
You've mentioned you think they're underground and they have bases underground, which is logical, I agree.
But how do we know they're from elsewhere as opposed to, for example, always having been here?
The craft they're using is no spacecraft.
You can't get any more spacecraft.
I mean, it's made for traveling in space.
It's blatantly obvious.
So, I mean, that right there is telling me they're coming a distance.
Yeah, it's a good point.
It's a good point, but I guess once in space, you know, it doesn't really matter what shape an object is, frankly.
It doesn't have to be shaped like a rocket.
It has to be shaped like a rocket to get out of the atmosphere using traditional fuel and
propulsion systems.
Well, no, it doesn't have to be shaped.
In our technology, it's got to be shaped like a rocket because that's all we're capable
of.
That's what I said, using traditional propulsion systems.
But once you're in space, if you have some sort of anti-gravitic capability, which is
Why, obviously, it wouldn't matter what shape it was.
Well, and that's the case, because there are a whole load of different shapes, and, I mean, they just take off, you know, zero to light-year speed.
I mean, in the blink of an eye, they're gone, and it's just obvious that it's a spacecraft.
Zero to light speed in less than 60.
Yeah, less than 60 milliseconds.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Crystal.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes, you.
That's me.
That's funny, me.
Yeah, I've got a lot of questions.
I was born and raised in Nevada.
Right.
And I now live in New Mexico.
And I have seen a lot of sightings.
And I don't know how much is military and how much is UFOs.
Right.
That lady that was talking from Tahoe earlier?
Yes.
I had sat there on my front porch in Virginia City.
Right.
And saw things from the Naval Air Base in Fallon.
And I saw them go from Fallon to Lake Tahoe and down.
Uh-huh.
And I've seen it happen here in New Mexico.
Well, you see, we're at somewhat of a disadvantage here.
Two nights ago, there was a fireball that came down here.
A fireball.
We've got big military bases here in New Mexico, and nobody's going to come up to it.
I know.
I know all about it.
All right.
Well, thank you.
Look, that's a problem.
We're in the Southwest.
I'm here in Nevada.
You're now in New Mexico.
Both areas are very heavily militarized.
I think about 90% of Nevada's land is owned by the U.S.
government.
We have Area 51.
We have a lot of military aircraft experimentation that we can only imagine.
And so, of course, out here, a disproportionate number of sightings, I'm sure, can be attributed to the military.
It's a lot harder.
But when you're back in Flatbush, for example, that really is not the case.
And yet you have, nevertheless, a hotspot.
So it's more likely that whatever it is, is in ours.
Is that fair, Doctor?
Yeah.
Yeah, Pine Bush.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, Flatbush.
That's all right.
Flatbush, I don't know why.
Yeah, I mean, there are military bases all over, but, you know, I mean, I've been in touch with the air traffic controllers at the airport that's closest to Pine Bush, and I've talked to military people, and I mean, there may be one, if there's one experimental plane, like, out of the base, that's all there is.
You know, and in fact, a number of years ago, the media kept claiming there were a group of ultralight pilots flying across New York State.
That's right, in formation, trying to freak people out.
Yeah, I mean, but they couldn't be all over at once.
I mean, even if there was a group, they can't be here, there, and everywhere all at the same time.
Kind of like Doug and Dave with the crop circles.
Yeah, you can't be all over the world, you know, at the same time.
It's impossible.
Alright, first time caller line, you're on the air with Ellen.
Hello.
Yes, it's you.
Yes, my name is Robert.
Yes, Robert.
Calling from Middleton, Idaho.
Okay.
I have an account of back in 1977 with my account of that.
First time seeing a UFO.
Close up?
Yeah.
How close?
It was about 50 feet away.
That was pretty close.
Where were you?
Well, I ran out of the house toward it.
Yes.
And what happened?
I noticed there was no rivets, no identifiable markings on this craft.
It was huge.
And shaped what how?
Like a disc.
Like a disc?
Uh huh.
Metal?
Um, yeah.
I guess it was metal.
It was kind of dull, you know, shiny color to it.
So what did it do?
What did you do?
Well, I was thinking as I was running toward it, all right, you know, this is great.
You know, I'd never seen one before, you know, just this was really amazing.
Yes.
I noticed something really different about it.
There were colors in the center and on the dome area up top.
It was like tears of light and they were kind of like, I don't know how to explain this, almost like socks in a dryer where they tumble.
The lengths of some of the strips in the saucer were Anywhere from 8 to 12 feet long, and they were different thicknesses.
Yellow, red, green, blue.
So what did this craft do?
I mean, we don't have a lot of time here.
Oh, it just stood there in mid-air with complete silence, and then it took off very quick.
Well, I don't know what to say about that.
I mean, join the club.
Welcome to the club.
up in the air still, higher up above, behind some trees.
And then it just went up and it looked like it was part of the stars again.
Hmm. Well, I don't know what to say about that.
I mean, join the club.
Welcome to the club.
Yeah. Many of us have seen things like that.
I always tell people, draw a picture and write up the account
because it helps you articulate better what you experienced.
And also, you tend to remember little details that you wouldn't remember
if you hadn't written it down and thought about it.
So, write it down and draw a picture.
That really does help.
I mean, even if you have a dream at night.
Dream analysts will tell you the same thing.
Before it goes away, before the details fade, sit and write it out.
Yeah.
Then you can have a good laugh at lunchtime.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Ellen Kristol.
Hi.
I have to turn my radio down.
Yes, you do.
Okay, I'm sorry about that.
It's all right.
Go ahead.
I live in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
My name's Cheryl.
Okay, Cheryl.
And I know what she's talking about.
And what's really odd is I've looked into pine bush.
I've had things happening for about three years.
And I'm at the same, is it latitude?
As pine bush?
Okay.
I guess it would be roughly the same, yes.
It's almost exact.
Uh-huh.
And I'm seeing the same type of lights.
That I've seen pictures of from Pine Bush.
Uh-huh.
And I've taken hundreds of pictures myself.
Uh-huh.
And this is ongoing.
Uh-huh.
And there's been a lot of other things going on, too.
Well, maybe you should be sharing some pictures with Ellen.
Maybe.
Yeah, well, yeah, if you'd like to send me, you know, some copies so I can look at them.
Well, see, I've got them on my computer.
Well, they wouldn't be as clear as a photo.
Well, you can print them out.
Yeah.
Well, do that.
One in particular that is really interesting, though, is they're like bubbles.
Round globes?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, I didn't talk about that.
All right.
Well, go ahead and talk about round globes.
Okay.
I first took a picture in 1984.
We saw the craft.
I took the picture.
I got the picture back.
There was an immense round globe in the center of the picture, looking like it was just sitting on a bunch of trees.
I walked around with the photo for about six months until, and I talk about this in Silent Invasion, I met two people who had worked with the government chasing craft in Colorado.
And they looked at the photo and said, that's a Tesla field.
And I said, what's that?
And they said, well, the scientist Nikola Tesla had created these energy fields that were supposed to be theoretical, blah, blah, blah.
Since then I've also taken thousands of pictures of Tesla fields.
They seem to come as small as tennis balls and as large as about 300 feet or so, like a dome.
I have them over houses, over trees, over fields.
We're walking in them.
Everybody who's taken pictures of UFOs gets Tesla fields at some point.
There's a fog also that falls in line with these Tesla globes.
It's some kind of energy field.
It's supposed to protect something inside of it, whether it's a piece of equipment or a craft or Tesla's idea was to put a dome over a city so that it would protect the city from any incoming missiles.
It always had that military destructive slant to it.
But apparently, the aliens, for whatever reason, used these Tesla globes.
And Tesla, supposedly, at one point in his life, was in touch with aliens.
You figure it out.
I can't figure it out.
Actually, I have never heard that.
Yeah.
That's Tesla's own words?
Yeah.
He claimed he was in touch with aliens.
But it's not.
They left it out of the biographies.
I'll bet.
There's one biography, Tesla Man, out of time.
Another one.
I found that information someplace.
I can't remember where offhand.
I mean, I have all that information.
Alright, look.
I want to be able to give your address.
Obviously, your book, Silent Invasion, is available on Amazon.com.
We've got a link to that.
That's one way to get it.
The other is to go to a bookstore and order it.
Silent Invasion by Dr. Ellen Crystal.
St.
Martin's Press.
St.
Martin's Press, right.
I guess that's important to know.
And you have an address you're willing to give out, right?
Yes.
So go ahead and give it again.
For better or worse.
Yeah, for better or worse, that's right.
Always.
1442 Hemlock Farms, Hawley, Pennsylvania, 18428.
Okay, you better give it... people can never write that fast.
Okay.
1442.
Everybody got that number?
Right.
Hemlock.
A-T-M-L-O-C-K.
Farms.
Hawley.
A-K-W-L-E-Y.
Pennsylvania.
1-8-4-2-8.
What do you want from people?
Money.
No.
Yeah, that's why you're selling a book.
Right.
No, I want to get information out.
I mean, I like to hear from people what they've experienced.
Please, if you can include a stamped address, you know, an SASE, it helps me.
So you do try to write back to them?
Yeah, I write back to everybody.
It may take time if I get a lot of letters because at times I have been inundated, but
it's been quiet.
I'm sure that'll change.
People have some amazing stories, and I actually wanted to put together a book of letters,
but the publishers are so far behind the times.
All they want is a real alien.
It's really trouble.
They want a real alien?
Yeah, before they'll publish another book on you.
I want a real alien.
Well, everybody wants a real alien, for God's sake.
I mean, they're just ridiculous.
You can't get a book published unless you're a celebrity or, you know, you have an alien that'll come forward and speak.
It's just ridiculous.
Boy, I'll tell you, that'd be a hell of a book, though.
Well, but there's a lot in between.
I mean, I had a reporter come out with me who was writing a story for the Middletown newspaper, and he was set to have eye surgery the next week.
Right.
And a week later, he went to his doctor for the pre-surgical exam, and the doctor said, you don't need surgery.
And we had sightings the night he came out.
And you think he was cured?
Yeah, he thinks he was cured.
He wrote it.
He wrote it.
Okay.
Well, listen, it has been a pleasure having you on the air.
We are out of time.
Okay.
So thank you for being here, Dr. Crystal, and we'll do it again sometime.
Okay, thank you.
You're a lively lady.
Thanks, Doc.
See you later.
Dr. Ellen Crystal.
I'm talking actually about a very serious set of sightings that have occurred in New York.
Pine Bush, the Pine Bush area of New York, and that's been going on, is ongoing now and has been For years.
So, we'll be back shortly with Open Lines, anything you want to talk about.
Thank you.
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Anything you all want to talk about is fair game.
First time caller on the line, you are on the air.
Hello.
How you doing, Art?
Okay.
I'm Jason, calling from Atlanta.
Yes, sir.
I got something kind of interesting you might like to hear.
All right.
I'm not going to name the place I'm working at, but I'm a security officer.
Yeah?
And I got some really weird things going on here.
Like what?
I checked the area, and I'm the only one in the building.
Everybody's gone.
It's a pretty prestigious place at that.
And I'll walk by, and I'll check a room, and everything's in place.
And I'll come back.
Five minutes later, there'll be chairs stacked on top of tables.
Yeah.
Really.
Then either you have a ghost, a poltergeist, or somebody playing around with you.
Either way, pretty scary.
Well, it gets even worse than that, Art.
It does?
It gets a lot more complicated.
This thing will now talk to me through my pager.
My pager will ring.
Oh, great.
Yeah, and I'll ask a question, and it's simple.
Yes or no answers it gives me.
So, like one digit is yes, two digits is no.
And it's just really crazy because each week... Like the modern form of the Ouija boarders.
Well, each week it's progressing.
It's getting worse and worse and worse.
It's doing more...
Well, I'll tell you, I watch a lot of movies, and in a lot of movies, security guards, they're the first victims.
Well, I think I'm a victim.
They're eaten, they're mauled, they're torn into pieces.
I mean, they're disposable.
Well, you're supposed to be giving me some good advice here.
You're not supposed to try to scare me.
Well, I mean, you've seen the movies.
You know, they're always the first to go, and they find the body in the morning, stuffed in the closet, pieces.
Well, I hope that don't happen to me.
I've got a witness, too, Art.
You've got a witness?
I've got a witness.
I'm not just imagining this stuff.
Another security guard?
Another security guard?
Yes, sir.
He's a supervisor at the other part of the place.
Well, in most movies I've seen, they wouldn't be able to tell his parts from yours.
Well, I mean... I'm just messing with you, sir.
I'm just messing with you.
He's really observed your pager going off the whole thing.
Right.
It happened to him.
As a matter of fact, he didn't believe me right away.
How do you know he isn't doing this to you?
Because he's with me when the pager starts doing this.
See?
There's a little time between you.
When you make a page, sometimes it takes a paging service a little time to actually deliver the page.
Right.
Well, it's kind of instantaneous.
You ask a question, it's like instantly.
I wouldn't like that.
No, I don't like that too much either.
As a matter of fact, he's seen the thing.
What is it?
Well, um, he was doing a tour in this area, and it's kind of dark, and he's riding around in this cart.
And, um, he drove by and he noticed a woman there, and it sort of startled him.
He goes, oh, you scared me.
Well, the lady wasn't even looking at him, and, um, he thought something was wrong with her, like she had an argument with her husband or something.
She was walking around this area.
And, um, he's like, uh, are you okay?
She says, no, I'm fine.
I'm just walking.
And she said, I'm just walking like three times.
And he says, well, um, Do you make a lot of money?
I make a pretty good bit.
I mean, I like my job.
Better than minimum wage?
It's better than minimum wage by far.
It would take a lot of money to keep me there.
Well, I'm trying to do something about it.
Maybe you could give me a number or something I could call.
Like I said, Art, it's starting to come home with me now.
It's not just at work.
My wife is noticing things.
The cat scared half to death.
Call 1-800-RED-EYES.
You're kidding, right?
Yeah, I am kidding.
I have no idea what number that is.
Look, if it was me, I'd be finding a new job.
I'm serious.
I wouldn't like any of that.
None of it.
Well, I called a paranoia investigator, and he said it sounded like the act of a poltergeist.
That's right.
For ghosts to be able to move something, they gotta be pretty powerful to actually pick something up and move it.
I only can relate to the movies, and I'm telling you right now, the security guards go first.
And quick.
And whether they're in security guard stations, or usually in the movies they're going around, uh, do you have one of those little keys?
You gotta turn a thing?
I got several keys.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Deadly.
You've got some other calls coming in.
I want to leave with one other thing.
Yes?
Um, you ever heard of the books called the Gilgamesh Scribes?
No.
Uh, have I?
I mean, it's vaguely familiar, only.
If you could find any information on it, I think you would be pretty much intrigued from what little bit that I do understand.
They can't even do carbon-14 tests on it.
They say that the book is so old, you know, it's supposedly not even written in any text that they can decipher.
And there's a lot to it.
It talks about the creation of Earth.
It really upsets a lot of people who are deep in their roots in their religion.
In some movies, all they find is a badge.
Anyway, I gotta go, sir.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Good luck to you.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yes, sir.
I was wondering if you or your guests have uh... are familiar with the launch of foundation or
the iran to burke oh yes uh... read your answer
to make a quick fix a lot of time ally and now i'm what i was wondering if
uh... did you think it's that valid or and i have no history on that i'm trying
to find the history of it the history of the book
i don't know whether it's valid i i read it i've been in a search all my life for
the truth or what I consider to be the truth.
Something that I can really buy into.
And I can't say that I bought into Urantia.
Okay.
That's just me, though.
Yeah, I just bought the book, and then I got some readings from the Foundation.
Well, then you read it, and when you're done, you call me and tell me what you think.
Okay.
Alright?
It's taking me a long time right now.
Alright.
Okay, thank you.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Turn your radio off, please.
It's down.
That's good.
How are you doing tonight?
My left knee is still a little sore.
Well, I do care about your knee, too.
Actually, I wanted to follow up.
This is Joe from Austin, Texas.
Yes, sir.
I wanted to follow a little bit up on Ellen Crystal.
Yes.
I had bought her book back in, I think, around 1994.
I actually tried to write her.
I went to the MUFON conference in Greenville, North Carolina.
Right.
I was also trying to get into the Monroe Institute during that same week.
I had stopped by the Monroe and got myself into the class there, but I had a week to kill before the class started.
I drove on up to Pine Bush, and I met a bunch of people out there.
I didn't see anything myself, but there was some really strange stuff.
that had happened.
I met a gentleman that was the head of the abduction support group there in Pine Bush.
One evening, we went back to his house and he had taken some photographs and they were
absolutely amazing.
There was one photograph of a ... I don't know how to explain it, but there was a ... On
the main road where a lot of the sightings were, there was an area that was probably
300 or 400 yards in length that had been taken, gravel had been taken out of it.
There was a tree line above that.
The back, maybe 200 yards back, was a tree line.
He had a photograph of ... I don't know how to explain this.
If you can imagine a door that was probably 200 or 300 yards thick, it was really a rectangle.
It was the outline of ... It would be very similar to looking at a door just floating
above the tree line back along that gravel pit.
Oh wow.
It was kind of like a portal.
Yeah, yeah.
It was kind of like a portal.
It's just amazing.
The other thing is, you were talking about... Oh, you know, people tend to laugh or whatever at these stories, but I've had very serious Ph.D.
researchers on the show who have film of portals opening up with creatures coming out of them and then closing in on themselves.
Yeah, it's amazing.
The other thing I wanted to mention is, she was talking about the Tesla globes.
That's correct.
And other people have mentioned those.
He had, again, another picture that he had enhanced.
He had some sort of a graphics enhancement program he had loaded on his computer.
Yes.
And it was real interesting.
He had enhanced one of the, he had several pictures of Tesla globes, the same as Ellen Kristol has in her book.
But he had enhanced one of the photographs and there seemed, I mean, and I thought it was clear it wasn't something that you needed your imagination.
He actually showed Uh, there was a picture of an alien curled up inside the Tesla globe.
After he had his... You mean sort of like a fetus curled up?
Exactly, exactly.
And you could see, I mean, you could see the outline of the alien.
It wasn't dense, it was still vaporous, almost like the globe itself.
But you could see the outline of the alien.
Did you hear the security guard who called a little while ago?
Yeah, I was listening to him, yes.
Yes, would you stay in that job?
I think I'd go.
Walking around all night just waiting for the next shoe to fall?
No, no, I think I'd go.
Oh yeah, one other thing.
There's another book, and then this is just for your listeners.
Sure.
There's another book that's called, I don't know if you've ever, have you ever had either Tom Dongo or Linda Bradshaw on?
No.
Okay, well they wrote a book.
They both, at the time, were residing on a ranch.
I think it's about 20 miles outside of Sedona.
They didn't ever actually exactly say where they both lived, but they were within a few miles of each other.
But the only thing I'll mention is, if you buy Ellen's book and you enjoy that, you might want to grab this book.
It's called Merging Dimensions.
All right.
OK.
And he has, oh gosh, he has, I don't know, there's maybe 15, 20 pages of photographs in his book.
And many, many of the photographs are exactly like Ellen Kristol's photographs.
Well, I don't have to buy books.
That's the good thing about doing this program.
I get them for free.
So I have Silent Invasion right here in my hand.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call, and take care.
They send them to me in droves.
I have books, and yes, I can see the photographs, and yes, I can see the globes.
She calls them Tesla globes, and they may be.
Who knows?
Scattered Teslas.
Pine Bush, New York.
It says June 14th, 1988, when there are lots of lights flying.
There seems to be much more going on than we can see as on this night, and obviously the Well, it's kind of a long story, but basically it has to do with a Greek play in college.
Oh, okay.
I had a question.
This is Icos.
Icos?
Yes.
How are you doing this evening?
Pretty good.
That's an interesting name.
Why were you named Icos?
Well, it's kind of a long story, but basically it has to do with a Greek play in college.
Oh, okay.
I had a question.
I was wondering, do you think some of your viewers would be interested in knowing about
the filming that we're beginning on October 29th, which will be about the Space Island
I don't know.
What filming?
Well, it's actually, the name of the film is going to be the SpaceIsland.com Movie.
And what we're doing is we're beginning a film in a town in Idaho called Moscow, Idaho.
Moscow, yes.
University of Idaho location, and they have a large dome there, and we're going to be actually filming with a company called Fractal Films.
Is Gene Myers going to be involved?
Well, Gene is going to be involved somewhat, but he's not actually involved in the movie per se.
Fractal Films is directed by, or the director is Mark... What is the idea?
Are the proceeds going to Space Island?
It's part of us going to Space Island, and also the proceeds are being designed to get people able to participate in the process of building a real Space Island.
Right.
Well, Chris, that is what Gene Myers is going to do.
Well, I look forward to hearing from Gene Myers on that subject.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Is that Bill?
All right.
I'm calling about the thing you were talking about in Mexico.
Figuring out how to, why they down-sunk it.
Do you have your radio on?
Oh, yeah.
I better turn it down.
Better do that.
Not very confusing.
You're going to sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
I apologize.
That's all right.
Now, ask your question again.
Okay, you were asking earlier and trying to figure out why that town sunk in in Mexico?
Yes, the lady described the house as swirling down under the ground and then the ground covering.
Okay, there is a geological phenomenon.
Yes.
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You're describing where I live.
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Uh-huh.
And we have an underground aquifer, the second largest in the U.S.
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Right.
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Okay.
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Maybe it wouldn't be as bad if you were in your car.
Maybe it would be worse.
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There you are, 30 feet underground, waiting for the little air to give way and that's it, you're buried in your car.
Horrible.
Absolutely horrible.
International Line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Hello, do you want to talk to Art?
That would be me.
Turn your radio off and proceed.
Okay, thank you.
Turn your radio off.
Hi, Art.
Yes.
I'm calling from Burnaby, B.C.
Yes, sir.
I've seen a lot of stuff in the skies here.
I live in a high-rise in Metrotown here in Burnaby.
Yes.
And I'm facing north towards the mountains.
Right.
Not too long ago, I saw one of those blue fireballs.
My curtains don't cover my entire patio window to my balcony.
So in other words, you see a flash.
No, it was a fireball.
I had a tail and it was Light blue.
Well, it could have been a... I mean, they always say... Actually, I was just gonna turn off your show and, uh... Oh, you mean you just... Watch Goblon 5 on, uh... You mean you just... Are you saying you just now saw it?
No, this was, uh, about a month ago.
Okay.
It was raining out.
Yeah.
And about, uh, alien abductions... It's your government that's abducting people.
My government?
Yes.
How do you know it's not your government?
The Canadian government wouldn't do that to people.
Why not?
They're not as evil as your government.
What do you mean our government's evil?
It is.
It's fascist.
Fascist?
You've got a two-party state.
It's a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state.
I don't see any difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Yeah, and what about up there in Canada?
What's the big difference between your two political parties, huh?
We have four.
Well, alright, what's the difference between all four of them?
They're all pretty socialist.
No.
Yes.
We had Mulroney, who was good buddies with Reagan.
Yeah.
Well, that's true.
But you don't have that free trade agreement.
But you don't have it now, do you?
What?
We have now, who now?
He's gone.
We have, uh, Cratchit.
Right.
And Maroonie's gone, right?
Yeah.
History.
Like this call.
That was insulting.
Very insulting.
Hmm.
Anybody know what this is?
Guess there's no use in hanging around.
Yes, I'll get dressed and do the town.
I'll find some crowded avenue.
Though it will be empty without you.
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When I first moved in here, my wife started having dreams about an old woman.
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And my friends would come over, they'd say, hey Ed, what's going on with the ghost?
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Listen.
Listen to the voice and tell me who this is.
Guess there's no use in hanging around.
Guess I'll get dressed and do the town.
Anybody?
I'll find some crowded avenue Though it will be empty without you
Can't get used to losing you No matter what I try to do
Time's up.
It's Andy Williams, and it's an awfully pretty song, one that a lot of people have forgotten about.
I just like it.
I've been on this great search for the music of the millennium, this millennium, and I wonder what it's going to be like in the next millennium.
Probably unbearable.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
Hello.
Hi, this is Jim.
I'm from Michigan.
Hi, Jim.
Hi.
Your phone, your telephone connection is not too good, Jim.
Okay.
I'm calling, uh, you know how you were talking about all these cities that are suing gun manufacturers?
Yes.
Well, I'm a truck driver, and if my wife gets pregnant in my truck, can I be able to sue the truck manufacturer for billing the truck?
No, but you might be able to sue the truck manufacturer for 18 years of child support.
Yeah, same idea.
You know where I'm going?
Where are you going?
I'm heading home right now.
You're headed home now?
Yep.
Well, um, give it a try.
I mean, those lawyers out there, they'll take anything.
Well, you know what I mean.
It's just the same idea, you know, how they're shooting the manufacturers for naked money.
No, no, I fully understand.
Go ahead and do it.
And, uh, and when little Mac is about three years old, why, he'll never have a problem.
He's fixed for life.
All right.
Take care.
Thanks a lot.
His wife gets pregnant in the truck.
I suppose it could be the truck's fault, right?
All that vibration?
I don't know.
Wall Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oh my goodness, thanks a lot.
I figured out the formula to get into your show.
I'm so proud of myself.
Hi, this is Jan from Sacramento, California.
Yes, Jan.
Now, this is pertaining to Dr. Crystal.
Yes?
I almost got in on the wild card line that time, but missed it.
I'm an avid sky gazer, and one night, a couple of us were out back, and I hope you can answer this for me, or send me the right direction.
I can try.
Okay, we were out back watching up in the sky, and we saw a satellite going by, and we're commenting on it.
Oh, check it out, satellite.
Right.
And it started zig-zagging.
We're saying, oh, drunk satellite.
A drunk satellite.
And it zig-zagged about one, two, about four times.
Occam's Razor would not point you toward saying, oh, a drunk satellite.
But it was just bizarre.
Well, we're drinking, so it seemed appropriate.
I see, I see.
So it zig-zagged, and then it shot upwards and left some colored streak of light.
I do not recall.
Are you sure that it wasn't when you were falling down?
Believe me, there was a pool around it I would have been soaking wet and it would have been a whole different story.
Another talk show even.
Has anyone seen, is that the type of thing that gets reported often?
Most people, yes.
We hear a lot of that, but not from people who admit they were imbibing.
Because, you know, that usually ruins the story.
Most people go, ah, yeah, I've been drunk as a skunk, sure.
That's why I wanted to get some validity to it, because I knew there was someone out there who could say, yes, this is true, because everyone who knows me says, oh, well, I can't wonder.
There's a falling star.
You don't see a falling star go from one end of the horizon to the other and disappear before the tree line.
Yep.
Nope.
It's all true.
And one more question.
This over-the-bow shot.
I remember a long time ago you were speaking about this, and I got in and I asked a really obscure question, and you hung up on me before I could get my real question in.
What was your real question?
About the over-the-bow shots.
You're talking about satellites being knocked out by shots over the sun.
I can't recall exactly the wording you used.
Just the extreme heat, you know, like licking the earth, kind of.
Oh!
Ed Dame's kill shot and the over-the-bow shot.
Thank you.
Okay, what about it?
What is the over-the-bow shot exactly?
I never could get that answer.
Well, in naval parlance, over-the-bow means a warning shot.
In other words, if you are at sea and you want to fire a shot across the bow of an enemy to let them know next time it's going right down the mainsail or whatever.
I see.
So it's a preliminary... It's like a warning shot.
So that's what that means.
Yeah, I see.
Does that help you?
Yeah, it did.
You know, I could tell you my boyfriend said tonight, how you, sometimes your show's just entertaining, but some nights it makes you scared to go to sleep, and tonight is one of those nights.
You know, if I were you, I wouldn't go to sleep.
I mean, if you think it's going to be a problem, then it may well be.
My God, you know, I've never had so much factual things come from your show, and I say it to somebody else, I say, well, the Bible says that.
Oh my gosh, don't just... Don't compare this to the Bible.
No, no, no, but people have confirmed everything that I've brought up.
And I have you know, I had my mom move some stocks that she had because of the prediction about the stocks and the government bonds going to nothingness in the future.
I never made any such prediction.
Well, it's something to that effect.
It's never going to go to nothingness.
We have a good, strong economy.
Well, this is way back in like a year and a half ago.
And if the market keeps going the way it's going right now, the President will be saying that soon.
The economy is sound.
Well, of course, it's all propaganda.
We're not getting into that.
But anyhow, I know some things that you've predicted, the show has had your predictions that have been on, I have told people about, and they have come true, and they believe, you know.
Oh, you know, they don't think, they sometimes see your coops, and I say, you don't listen to them, do you?
No.
Well, therefore, don't, don't judge.
At least you be judged.
That's, that's right.
So anyway, Art, I'm glad to see you're back on the air, and, um... Whenever they say anything like that, throw the Bible at them.
All right, I've gotta go.
Yeah, take care.
Good night.
Good night.
Used to the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Art?
Yes, sir.
You say you're looking for truth.
I have a question for you.
All right.
If someone could send you a dream through prayer and fasting, a specific dream, and then that as a bona fides, would you listen to that person on truth?
Well, here's the problem with that.
Now you're saying you could send me a dream.
I could fast and request God to send you a dream and then discuss truth with you.
Right.
But if you were to tell me, in essence, what the dream was, which you would have to do to prove it to me, you would be subconsciously Suggesting to me that I have this dream.
So when I have the dream, how would I know that you didn't simply subconsciously suggest it to me?
Okay.
And it didn't come from God at all.
That's fair.
And here's my answer.
Okay.
You'll have a specific dream about a man dressed a certain way and in his hand he'll have a certain thing.
You'll get on the air after you've had that dream several times and call for this man who's dressed a certain way.
Yes.
I'll then call you back and tell you what the man was wearing.
What he had in his hand and what he said to you in the dream.
Then will you listen?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's impressive.
You've got two and a half months.
Uh, to live or to dream?
No, two and a half months.
Within that time period, that'll give me time.
I see.
To purify and fast and pray.
Because if you are really interested in truth, brother, you're in a position to lead a lot of people.
Well, have at it!
Okay.
Alright, have at it.
Yep, see you later.
That was pretty good.
He had the answer ready.
I mean, that was the problem, that he would have subconsciously suggested what I dreamed.
But he only told me.
It's like ripping a hundred dollar bill in half, right?
Yeah, pretty good.
We'll see.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Oh, let me get the radio.
Yes.
Good.
Art here.
Yeah, I got some answers for you.
To questions that you've asked and nobody's ever given you a satisfactory answer.
Well, give me the question first.
Okay, first, your question that you like to ask Christians, of what's going to happen to all these people that never heard of Christ?
Well, yeah, I mean, the Christians are always saying they're doomed.
Well, that's not quite what the Bible says.
I know you say you've read the Bible cover to cover.
I've spent many tens of thousands of hours, and that sounds like a big number, but I think Kind of worked it out one day just to see what it was, and it was multiple tens of thousands of hours in studying the Bible.
And the same thing's going to happen to everybody.
Simple as that.
The Bible flat out says that Christ died for the sins of the world, not for the sins of an elite group of individuals.
I thought it was the sins of man.
Well, of mankind.
I realize I only read it once, but it was man, not the world, right?
Well, of mankind.
Mankind.
It's a term the world is speaking of.
Mankind.
Of all the people of the world.
Mankind, yes.
Yeah.
Right, yes, but there are certain religions that nevertheless interpret all of this to mean that those who do not have the word are cooked.
That's not what it says, though.
Literally.
But that's not really what it says.
Well, I know, but that's what they teach.
What you have here is perjuration through purgation.
The Bible has been, in essence... Look, you're preaching to the choir here.
I mean, I'm with you.
I think that it's a bunch of baloney, and if there is saving to be going on, it's good for everybody.
So I'm with you.
Okay, well here's another one.
Another one, yes.
Okay, you've asked, what happened, or what took place right before the Big Bang?
That's right.
Simply... Now, the Bible does not cover that.
Yes, it does, in essence.
Where?
Well, how about John?
The book of John, right at the very beginning.
Genesis.
Let's begin with Genesis.
Genesis isn't the beginning of time.
Well... The book of John starts with the beginning of time, not Genesis.
Genesis starts with the recreation, because what it says is in the beginning, in Genesis, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth became The word there, it could be translated either became or was, and everybody likes to use was, but you have to go with became, tohu and bohu, which means desolate and in confusion, and God said, I am not the creator of confusion.
Therefore, you have to, since he did not create confusion, you have to go with the translation of the word that it became.
All right, but where do you find a description of what was prior to the creation of all that is?
The Book of John.
And what does it say in there?
Okay, it starts out with, in the beginning was the Word, which by the way means frequency modulator.
And that was Christ's original position.
What do you mean it means frequency modulator?
It's given as a title.
Now you're putting interpretations on it.
Not really.
Yes, really.
The word could be frequency modulated or amplitude modulated.
Or even frequency shift keyed.
Well, can I complete what I was trying to say?
Then you'll understand it.
Yeah, go.
Okay, now I'm sure you're aware that the Bible says that Christ spoke everything into existence.
See?
That's why he was called the Word, the Speaker, in other words, or in modern day language, Frequency Modulator.
And that was his function in the very beginning.
No, I don't see where you get Frequency Modulator.
You're making that part up.
I'm making it up.
I'm trying to put it into an understandable... Well, that's okay.
Well, I appreciate your call, but sorry.
When you say it is clearly defined what existed prior to the Big Bang, and you say the word, then well, okay.
But when you add frequency modulated, then, you know, you're going past the point where I would be willing to accept that you're just reading something to me That describes what was prior to everything.
Frequency modulation.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah, let me extinguish the radio here.
Alright.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning, sir.
John from El Segundo, which is just south of the L.A.
International Airport, listening to you on Kogo.
Yes, sir.
Um, I'm wondering, uh, what you think, uh, you think we're gonna be smart enough this, uh, coming election to, to, Maybe you figured that the Republicans and Democrats are just different versions of the same thing?
No.
Not a chance.
I think there's enough organizations like Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners of California that are just so tired of having people just take the rights and freedoms away.
How do you think that's happening?
It's happening because they are the minority, not the majority.
The significant minority, as a matter of fact.
We've been talking tonight about, well, for example, Colt.
Now, Colt is like the oldest name in guns, probably in the world.
Well, maybe not the world, but certainly this country, Colt.
And they're going to stop manufacturing an awful lot of what they've been manufacturing.
The gun that won the West is going to stop, the .45 caliber automatic, which has been The stable of military men for I don't know how long now, all of that is going to stop.
Well, it just seems like a heck of a shame that people want to give up this fight, because I think there's still a chance of winning it, but maybe I'm just a little Don Quixote.
I don't think in the long term.
I think in the long term it is going to be lost.
But fortunately, that will really be after you and I are gone.
Well, I remember a few Well, ten years or so back in California, we had a thing called Proposition 15, and they were trying to take away Second Amendment freedoms, and they tagged something else on there that really ticked off a bunch of motorcycle people, and enough people got upset about it, and they actually kept it from going through.
Well, the thing about propositions in California is that they are proposed, they are voted on, frequently voted for.
And then they immediately go to the courts, where the will of the people is immediately struck down.
Well, I've heard that from a lot of people, too, that don't vote because they say, hey, I voted for this and I voted for that.
Well, do you blame them for getting ticked off?
They vote for something, it wins, and then the courts throw it out.
Now, what form of representative democracy is that?
Well, you tell me.
Kind of sad.
Maybe people should be looking more towards the Libertarian or the Jesse Ventura or something like that.
I know, but they won't.
They'll do the same old thing.
You want to bet dollars to donuts, it's going to be Gore or Bush.
Probably Bush.
Hey, say goodnight.
Show's over.
Goodnight.
Insomniacs everywhere.
Alright.
Richard C. Hoagland and Tom Van Flanderen tomorrow night.
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