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You're listening to the best of Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell.
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art bell
You are about to enter the realm of the King of Terror.
Otherwise known as Dr. Doom or Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames, he was in the military remote viewing program, the U.S. government remote viewing program.
And we will briefly, of course, once again explain what remote viewing is.
But I want to give you an upfront warning here with regard to the program you're about to hear.
It may scare the crap out of you.
And so, if you have small children about, or if you are negatively affected by information that is kind of scary, then you're going to want to take this opportunity to tune out.
Otherwise, what you're going to hear is technical remote viewing information about varying topics, political, environmental, and so forth.
And some of it really is pretty scary.
So if you're affected in a negative way by some negative information, you're going to want to tune out now.
That warning given at Dames coming up shortly.
unidentified
Dames.
Dames.
art bell
The End Several years ago, now, and a lot of time has passed, Ted Coppel's Nightline did a program that shocked the nation.
They revealed the existence of a military remote viewing program to the nation in a 30-minute Nightline broadcast.
And they said that for 20 years, the United States government had had in place a so-called remote viewing program and that we had spent millions of dollars on it.
And that there had been a group of these remote viewers, and we'll try and explain the quick 101 version of remote viewing because I know we have new listeners in a moment.
And that they were discontinuing that program and announcing it, making the fact that we had, as a government, been doing this for 20 years, now public.
It was, to say the least, a shocking revelation.
Since that time, we have had many opportunities to interview many remote viewers.
One of the most controversial, without question, is a man during that time, Dr. Doom.
His name is Ed Dames, retired now, Major Ed Dames, who started a company called SciTech in the private sector in order to take what he had learned in the military, modify it to some degree, and what he does is called technical remote viewing.
From the Hawaiian Islands, here is Major Ed Dames.
Ed, hello.
ed dames
It's a pleasure to be back, Art.
art bell
Number one, happy birthday.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
On the day of the eclipse, you turned 50.
ed dames
Half a century.
art bell
I am now four years past that point.
I remember my 50th birthday.
It's kind of a milestone of sorts.
You can't quite get senior discounts yet, but you generally sort of say to yourself, hmm, half a century, huh?
How did you take your birthday?
unidentified
Well, I was still euphoric from the day before.
The day before I became engaged to a beautiful woman.
art bell
Congratulations.
unidentified
And so that was still on my mind when I turned 50, and then it was kind of, whoops, 50.
art bell
So you're going to get married?
I am.
Congratulations.
ed dames
In fact, the next show, if we do another show, it might be from China.
unidentified
I'm taking kind of a honeymoon teaching sabbatical.
ed dames
I'm teaching remote viewing to the Chinese at major universities in China.
art bell
You mean up in Communist China?
unidentified
Well, yes, the People's Republic of China.
If you can't beat them, join them.
art bell
Well, I guess they could buy your tapes like everybody else could anyway, huh?
ed dames
Well, they've had a very dynamic remote viewing program.
They're the only military unit, for instance, and the only academic institutions that really have a remote viewing program and stuck with it.
art bell
Oh, so the Chinese are still doing government-sponsored, or I guess in their case, mandated remote viewing?
unidentified
They are.
ed dames
And, you know, there's a long history of that kind of the East and the West are very different.
Here, the connotations are with the occult, and it was a hot potato, as I've said many times before, this unit.
But that's not the case in China.
art bell
Have you been to China?
ed dames
I was proscribed from going to China proper.
I was operating on the outskirts of China as an intelligence officer.
And my job was to send people like John Nolan, who you had on the program the other day.
art bell
I did indeed.
ed dames
into places like that to help recruit people who I fingered using technical remote viewing and other methods to vet and assess the people that we wanted to sell out their country.
So during the Cold War and when the bamboo curtain was up, my job was to determine what Chinese and Russian scientists I wanted to sell out their country, to let, to, to, but No, the candidates we chose based upon certain criteria.
And it came down to a number of individuals whose expertise we needed.
They were ensconced within very top-secret programs, and we wanted those people to spy for the United States government.
So we would send people like John Nolan in after we determined.
It's called vetting and assessing these candidates.
So for instance, let's say there was someone within a top-secret program, missile program somewhere in the erstwhile Soviet Union who I thought might make a good candidate to recruit as a spy.
unidentified
Our final methods, we used remote fueling.
ed dames
We used the remote fueling outfit.
That's one of the reasons the unit was so classified, to get into the minds of these candidates, to look for weak points, Achilles heels, if you will.
See, an American during the Cold War could be usually purchased for two times their annual pay.
Americans sell out for money traditionally.
That's not necessarily true with people in other countries.
It's a different paradigm.
There are different threshold buying points.
For the Russians, it was an apartment.
For other countries, it was something else.
So we would use remote viewing to get into that paradigm, get into the minds of the candidates, and see if there was something specific that we could dangle in front of these prospective spies and recruit them.
And send people, very brave men like John Nolan, out into the field to do that.
art bell
All right.
Before we launch into very much about the operational side of either the motor program or what you're doing now, we should do, I know, the painful thing for you because you've done it so many times, but just the very short version of what technical remote viewing is.
For those who might be tuning in tonight for the first time, they're going, what the hell is remote viewing?
ed dames
In essence, I'll start by using a term that you've used before.
A remote viewer is a trained psychic, but trained to the degree that the data that is produced about a target, a target being a remotely placed person, place, a thing, or an event, the information that's produced about that target is extremely accurate and consistent.
So consistent and accurate that we in the Department of Defense were able to use such psychic data in support of military operations where when we went, for instance, to natural psychics, we could not use that information because the natural psychic, number one, was not consistent in their data.
And number two, the natural psychic did not know when they crossed the line into imagination.
So that the information that they were writing down or talking about or sketching was no longer connected with the target.
The signal had crossed over back into the mind.
art bell
So in other words, in a way, the government was saying, we believe in psychic ability, but the government always wants, of course, to be able to control and do science, which is being able to repeat things again and again and again.
They want a regimen.
That is our military.
I was in the Air Force.
Everything is regimented, and so they regimented psychic ability.
I guess you could put it that way, couldn't you?
ed dames
It had to be validated.
The Secretary of the Army at the time, John O. Marsh, was visionary enough to allow seed money to be put into this program to the tune of millions of dollars.
But that was provisional to the point where we had to be able to validate the usefulness and the accuracy of these methods in military operations before real money would be put forward.
So the $20 million that you hear thrown around, part of that $20 million that funded the program was, of course, research.
Only when we demonstrated that it was a militarily effective tool that could be used to support military operations, only then did the regular monies from Congress was allocated.
art bell
I see.
So that's the first thing.
Really, the first money was seed money.
ed dames
The first money was research money.
Research money can be thrown at just about anything, but only for a limited period of time.
And unless you validate, in terms of the Department of Defense, unless you validate something as a weapon or a defense system or an intelligence collection system, the usefulness of that, you're not going to get any more money.
art bell
It's a very good point, Ed.
And you know, the fact that it went on for 20 years, I could understand that it would go on for a year or two or three or four even.
But if there were no results worthy being yielded, they absolutely would not have kept going 20 years, in my opinion.
ed dames
No.
No, it was...
The unit was so close-hold that very, very few people in the government knew of its existence.
I dare say that if that had not been the case, we would not have lasted as long.
art bell
Well, here's a point.
ed dames
We would have been cut off the knees or something.
art bell
Yeah, exactly yet.
But frequently people say, look, there can't be ETs.
There can't be UFOs.
The government is incapable of keeping secrets.
That's baloney.
They are capable of keeping secrets.
They kept the remote viewing secret for 20 years.
ed dames
Well, no, it leaked out.
It did leak out.
In fact, in my business, we knew that the general rule of thumb art was that a secret could be kept for no longer than eight years.
art bell
Eight years.
unidentified
Yeah.
ed dames
That was a general rule of thumb.
Now, that's been exceeded.
I mean, there have been programs that many countries have had.
China is a good example.
They can keep a lid on something for decades.
But in America, before internet days, it was generally eight years.
One of the best examples was the stealth program.
That was effectively protected by this country in the U.S. Air Force.
art bell
Manhattan Project.
ed dames
Well, the Manhattan Project, that was secrecy beyond, I think, anything that...
art bell
But the fact that plutonium was given to children and pregnant women, that sort of thing, that was kept secret.
ed dames
Those were the dark ages of America, the Joe McCarthy days.
Those were America's dark ages, for sure.
art bell
And the dark days are over?
ed dames
Generally speaking, they're over.
There's a lot of oversight.
and I'll tell you why, because the press is so effective.
The press is so effective in this country that they can generally penetrate just about anything.
But again, as far as keep a secret from the American press.
art bell
Hear, here.
Hear, here.
But said again, remote viewing is the ability of somebody to administer to another person, the remote viewer, a number, a simple number, a series of numbers or whatever.
And the remote viewer would then, for example, be able to locate a gas canister in Iraq or any number of other things.
Remote viewing is in a realm that defies or eclipses time as we understand it.
You can look into the future.
You can look into the past.
ed dames
It's operating in the fifth dimension.
Fourth dimension being time, fifth dimension being mind.
art bell
Precisely.
ed dames
So we are thinking in terms of a universal mind where all patterns of information are stored.
So in that arena, the universal mind is remembering the future as well as remembering the past.
All the information is present there, accessible.
So it becomes a matter of turning one's unconscious attention towards one of those infinite patterns of information.
art bell
When you get a student, Ed, in the days that you actually had classes going on, how did you train the imagination?
How do you train the imagination out of a person's report?
ed dames
It's part of the process that there's about 400 steps to learning this process, just like cooking a pineapple upside-down cake in the kitchen.
You just have to go through one step after another.
If you do all those steps correctly, you have a fine cake at the end of a couple of hours.
art bell
That's right.
ed dames
Remote viewing is the discovery, the real discovery of remote viewing is how the unconscious part of ourselves communicates these very detailed bits of information to conscious awareness without this overlay of imagination.
Those steps, that process was the breakthrough discovery.
That's been refined in SciTech to be able to use remote viewing as not only an information collection process, but a problem-solving process as well.
For instance, I just noticed to my great glee that NASA has discovered that Titan, the largest moon of Saturn, has a sea on it.
And you might remember three years ago.
art bell
I think they're even talking atmosphere, aren't they?
ed dames
Well, it was the only other body, a heavenly body in our solar system that has an atmosphere similar to Earth.
This is the fourth moon out from Saturn, proper.
It's the largest of its moons.
And three years ago on your program, I mentioned to you that SciTech, in conjunction with our former enemy, the KGB Extra Sensor, the KGB Psychic team, had joined together to do a joint project, and we were going to do a remote viewing survey of Titan.
art bell
Of Titan.
Hold it right there.
Major Ed Dames, SciTech Major Ed Dames is my guest.
And by the way, you can remote view.
There actually are videotapes out now.
It used to cost thousands of dollars to take the course, but if you'll get a pencil and paper, we'll tell you how to get the tapes here shortly.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
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art bell
That's who we are.
My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
And again, immediately ahead is going to be some very, very scary information.
Now, if you react negatively to scary information, tune out.
If you have children in the room, you may not wish them to hear it.
Exercise your parental authority and have them leave the room.
So, that's what's directly ahead, Major Ed Dames, and there's a lot to tell tonight about what's going on.
unidentified
Something about Korea, by the way.
art bell
Once again, here is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
Ed, welcome back.
unidentified
Thank you.
Uh-oh.
Hey, Ed.
art bell
Hold it.
Hold it.
Let's see.
Our phone was for a moment breaking up.
Oh, we lost it.
We lost it.
unidentified
Did you hear that?
Wow.
art bell
Our phone just, as you heard, it went into absolute self-destruct.
That was the damnedest thing I ever heard.
especially the way it went.
Did you hear that sort of a screeching...
And the American President had the American ambassador in Moscow.
And he said, I'm told by my technical people that when the atomic weapon detonates, we'll hear a large screeching sound as the telephone on the other end melts in Moscow.
Kind of reminded me of that.
Now, hopefully, Ed Dame's phone in the Hawaiian Islands there has not melted.
Let me try and get him back.
unidentified
I'm sure we can do it.
Oh, I'll tell you.
art bell
The telephone system has been really weird lately.
I've been getting a lot of all circuits are busy and that sort of thing.
See if we can connect with Ed.
ed dames
All right.
art bell
Yes.
ed dames
Yeah, no idea what that was.
art bell
Did you hear the way that disconnected?
ed dames
Oh, I heard it, yeah.
art bell
Kind of a screechy, screaming sound, and then boom, you were gone.
ed dames
Well, I guess I crossed the line.
art bell
Maybe you crossed the line, right?
ed dames
Well, yeah.
art bell
All right.
At any rate, Ed, I think when I reflect on the years that you've been doing programs with me, your most accurate work seems to have been in the area of the environments.
I mean, that's my own personal view.
ed dames
There's a reason for that, and that is because, you know, what we know in my business is that unconscious, the unconscious part of ourselves, of our own mind, is our best friend.
It tries to keep you alive.
And if you're too busy in the daytime to pay heed to it, that little tiny signal, that little tiny voice, it'll get you at night during dreams.
You'll have premonitions about disasters or something like that.
These are big spikes in time.
These kinds of things, the spike that tells you don't be here because something is going to happen or don't be involved in this city at this time because there'll be an explosion.
It's our best friend.
It tries to keep you alive.
So when you have a catastrophe that takes a lot of lives or affects a lot of people, those are very big spikes that stand up through the background clutter, the background noise of day-to-day living.
art bell
And of course, the environment is a very, very big thing that can take many lives.
ed dames
It's going to take many lives indeed, yes.
art bell
Now, I just don't even know what to say about the weather.
You years ago talked about the changes in the weather.
ed dames
There's nothing more to say as far as I'm concerned.
Two and a half years ago, I tried to warn listeners on your program as well as in written reports to institutions and institutes that we are not going to shortly, we are not in North America going to be able to grow crops the way we used to grow them.
Yes, absolutely so that's there will be no seasons.
There will be no distinction between seasons.
And it's going, some parts will be a no man's land.
We're going to have to move crops into sealed environments.
And these environments will become templates and humans will begin to migrate into them and they'll grow.
But the technology must mature for this to be effective.
We've got to start doing this now.
Otherwise, many people will lose their lives.
art bell
You also said the jet stream would come down onto the deck and people chuckled.
And I've heard, I don't know how many weathermen say the jet stream actually came down and touched the ground, and that accounts for the straight-line winds that destroyed such and such.
I mean, just again and again and again, you were dead flat right about that.
And here in Salt Lake City the other day, a tornado ed, a tornado, an F2 tornado touched down in the center of Salt Lake City, Utah, killed one person, injured dozens of people, and did an extensive amount of property damage.
It was the damnedest thing anybody ever saw.
ed dames
Well, I mentioned before the tornado season that the mother of all tornadoes was coming, and you saw that hit.
art bell
That's right.
ed dames
I have to warn you again, there's going to be more of those, and in places that have never experienced tornadoes before.
So when, for instance, I warn people in the Denver area about Rocky Flats, there is no more nuclear material, waste material stored in Rocky Flats, but there's still a very big problem.
The top layer of the soil around Rocky Flats, down to about a centimeter or so, is contaminated.
So if a high wind or a tornado rolls across that land, it's going to be Fallout City for Denver.
It's tend to be a lot of money.
art bell
So obviously, yeah, a tornado would obviously pick up a great deal of all the contaminants and drop them on a populated area.
I wonder if they've thought about that.
ed dames
I don't think anyone has ever expected the Rocky Flats area to have a tornado, but things are changing rapidly as well.
art bell
Nobody really ever expected one in the middle of Salt Lake City.
ed dames
And in terms of sanctuaries and survival information, the other thing that my company has been trying to warn people about is water.
If you are not near a large source of fresh water, you are in trouble, and increasingly so.
That is why I've been directing people towards the western part of Glacier National Park.
We have that huge, some of the cleanest water in North America is there, and that's one of the few places in the continental United States that's going to be safe because it has a lot of water.
Water supplies are dwindling.
art bell
That certainly would make sense.
But then in the Northeast, we have drought emergencies now in almost every northeastern corridor state.
I believe all of them now.
And the southeast is a disaster.
Here in the west, Ed, the southwest, where I live, I'm telling you something is really dramatically wrong.
Every day my wife and I have been commenting on it.
We moved here about seven years ago to this house, and on the day we moved, it was 117 degrees.
Now, that's normal for out here in July going into August.
It's not getting above 90 during the day now, and it's going down to 60 at night, Ed.
Something's really wrong.
ed dames
Well, again, water.
The question is, got water?
Because that is the key right there.
You can stockpile all the food that you want and all the rifles and ammunition that you choose.
But if you are not near a source of plentiful fresh water, you are in trouble.
art bell
No, that surely does make sense.
The question, I guess, is that most people would want to know.
I mean, at this point, Ed, most people agree we are in the middle of a weather change that people have tried to explain in various ways, El Niño, La Niña, all the rest of it.
But it's more serious than that.
And I think most people now know that.
The question is, how much worse is it going to get?
That's what I think most people would want to know.
ed dames
It's going to reach a point where people begin migrating from populated areas.
art bell
Out of the cities.
ed dames
Out of the cities, yeah.
This is a denouement here.
And it's going to result in the disintegration of a lot of social systems because of no water.
Even food.
Look what will happen first, though.
Food prices will rise.
There will be crops that will not be available for cattle.
So cattle will die.
And then food will be controlled by governments, local at first, civil governments.
And then after that, there may not be enough food to eat.
So people may socially, many things will change.
People will begin to starve.
We're a very spoiled society, us Americans, and that's about the change.
We experience some pain.
art bell
No, it is true.
Food has been always extremely plentiful here.
Yeah, Americans don't really understand what it's like not to be able to get food.
It's an impossible concept because we have never experienced it, really never.
ed dames
You know, we've grown very complacent about a number of things, and that's going to change.
It's changing right now in those departed areas of the East.
art bell
But, well, yeah, look, in parts of the Orient, North Korea, they are starving to death.
There has been reported cannibalism in North Korea.
It's horrible.
Absolutely horrible.
So it doesn't take a great change in our climate to produce a dramatic change in the ability to grow food, does it?
ed dames
No.
In fact, when you think about it, food that's subject to the vicissitudes of climate and weather these days, it's a crapshoot.
It's like playing Russian roulette with food.
It's got to be done a different way.
And a different way has to be a hermetically sealed or a controlled, environmentally controlled environment.
Our company in the past has produced reports to this effect and delivered them to some very high-powered think tanks.
And there are certain individuals and wealthy people who have taken action and are doing this for themselves.
But it must be done at the community and township levels, minimally, in order to have sustained food.
art bell
Ed, I had a very, very well-renowned psychic on the air last night, Sylvia Brown.
And she said a couple of things that really caught my attention.
She said, number one, in 50 years, people will be living in domed cities, and this will be as a result of the environment.
The second thing she said was, she was on the Montel Williams show, and he had her looking ahead 20 years, 50, 70 years.
And finally, he had her look out as far as the year 2100, and she saw absolutely nothing.
Now, that reminded me of the time you talked of the discontinuity, what you called at that time, the discontinuity, a kind of a barrier past which you couldn't see.
And she has a barrier past which she cannot see.
She's not a remote viewer, but she is certainly a natural psychic.
Any reaction to that?
ed dames
Well, I think our company has to stand by the work that we've done with regard to the sun.
There is going to be a sunburst.
Something is going to happen to the sun, a major coronal mass ejection that will, plasma, that will be delivered up to Earth, almost down to the deck on Earth's surface.
And that will result in one of the largest catastrophes probably in recorded history.
art bell
Here's a fact from Dave in Wisconsin.
He says, This is what we know.
ed dames
We know that people look up and the next minute later, something hits them.
That's all that we know.
And this something is attributable to the sun's activity.
I'm not a solar physicist, so I don't know if that's plasma, x-rays, or whatever.
But it's something that can be seen in the sky.
It's an effect or an epiphenomenon as a result of solar action that actually produces an effect in the sky.
So you can see it coming.
You can't get out of the way, but you can see this coming.
And we know that it's produced by the sun.
How many of these kinds of kill shots are there, we don't know.
But the sun is going to result in a massive loss of life, even far more than the general weather conditions will produce.
And in many parts of the world, it's much worse.
art bell
So you stand by the kill shot or kill shots prediction?
ed dames
That's correct.
Our sun is Going to result in the largest loss of human lives that we have seen as remote viewers in the past or in the future.
art bell
Well, I know a lot of people say, oh, baloney, but actually there are a lot of very mainstream scientists that say that there have been extinction cycles that they now believe have been caused by the sun in our past.
Let me take a moment out because you did something a couple of years ago.
I think now a couple of years ago, I'm losing track of time myself.
Instead of conducting these thousands, the classes you had, you would teach people, usually well-to-do people, because it costs quite a bit of money, how to remote view.
And you did this at SciTech.
Then all of a sudden, you produced a series of video tapes.
Now, these are not schlock tapes, folks.
They were produced, directed by, actually directed by an Academy Award-winning nominated director.
They really are Class A tapes.
And they teach you how to do what Ed Dames does.
There are two categories that you can get.
One is the first tape, the introductory tape, that will, I don't know, I guess it'll tell you whether you want to go on and get the rest of them and really learn how to do this.
And by the time you've seen that first tape, I guarantee you will know whether you want to go on or not.
It's not expensive.
How much, Ed?
ed dames
$49.95.
art bell
$49.95.
That's right.
So you can order that, or you can order the entire set of tapes that will teach you everything if you really want to know this kind of information.
It's rather expensive, but I think you've got a sale now, $70 off or something?
ed dames
It's six videotapes, and that's 10 hours of instruction.
A four-month course.
You do have a $70 off sale on there.
art bell
All right, and the price for the whole thing?
ed dames
$249.95.
art bell
That's a lot cheaper than the course used to be.
Those courses used to go for what?
ed dames
About $5,000.
art bell
A piece, yeah, that's right.
So people can order the first tape or the entire group by calling one of two numbers, and they are.
Check me if I'm wrong, Ed, I've got them here.
1-888-878-0333.
That's 1-888-878-0333, or 1-877-878-1777.
And I presume they have, because of the program tonight, people standing by.
ed dames
That's correct.
Or you could hit come to visit our website.
We're via your website.
The address is there, and there's a lot more information about our website.
art bell
Yeah, that's right.
Go to my website, simply scroll down to the name Ed Dames, and click on that and go zooming over to his website.
But one more time, I do want to get those in for you because they are remarkable tapes.
I mean, they're just, when you see it, you will know they are professionally produced tapes.
Remote viewing now, bear in mind, is not for everybody.
That's why I think people interested should grab that first tape and then decide whether or not to move on.
But that's up to you all out there.
1-888-878-0333 or 1-877-878-1777.
Now, when we get back, Ed, before the program began, you told me something about Korea.
You said we've got something really hot on Korea.
ed dames
We're monitoring a difficult situation, yes.
art bell
So let's get to that when we get back.
unidentified
We're going to break here at the top of the hour.
art bell
My guest is Major Ed Dames.
I text Major Ed Dames.
The subject, remote viewing.
Actually, that's the technique.
The subject is our future.
unidentified
we'll be right back Working for the manga.
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art bell
Indeed, Major Ed Danes, Phitex Ed Danes, is here.
They don't call him Dr. Doom for nothing.
In fact, we'll find out why they do call him Dr. Doom.
But I want to warn you that a lot of the information you're about to receive is scary.
And if you're an adult who is scared by this, or if you have a child in the room, get them out.
But if you're an adult, even an adult, who is affected negatively by this sort of information, then you might not want to know and turn the radio off.
With the news of the last few days, which has been really worrisome with regard to India and Pakistan, I expected Ed to say something about that.
A plane was shot down in the disputed Kashmir territories.
Shot down.
Then some missiles were fired.
They had some dogfights.
I mean, it really does not look good.
And as you know, both these nations have recently demonstrated they have nuclear weapons.
So it's a big worry.
But prior to the show tonight, I talked to Ed, and he said, no, Korea.
Well, that's what he's always said, Korea.
And so something's cooking in Korea.
Ed, what's going on?
ed dames
Well, I'll get back to some of these general interest items, visa via remote viewing, momentarily, but I do need to put this Dr. Dune hat on for a moment to talk about North Korea.
art bell
Sure.
ed dames
Now, I'm not saying that Pakistan and India are not going to nuke it out at some later juncture, but as I've said for the last two years, the next use of a nuclear weapon will be in the Korean peninsula by the North Koreans.
We stood by that.
art bell
Yes, I know.
ed dames
But now we're watching a very interesting situation developing, extremely interesting.
And this is something that only technical remote viewing could have pulled out of the hat because as a military analyst, one would not have thought of something like this.
It would not have been the last thing one would have thought of.
It just wasn't part of the ensembles of information that we come up with.
It isn't there.
But nevertheless, this is what appears to be coming down in North Korea.
And in order to produce this, I had to go into the mind of Kim Jong-il and look at his strategic goals and see what was going on vis-a-vis this missile program, this Taipo-Dong-2 missile that has a range of 4,100 miles.
art bell
The one they fired over Japan not long ago, right?
ed dames
Well, that was an earlier version.
This is a more advanced version.
In fact, they've got six ready to go.
So let's say they just fire another one.
Well, that would eventuate in some, instead of squeezing out more concessions from Japan and the United States and South Korea, all it would do is make those three nations angrier and we'd probably cut some of our assistance.
But they've got a Trump card now that appears to be developing.
Very interesting one.
As I've mentioned in the past, North Korea probably has enough plutonium, had enough plutonium ten years ago to produce maybe one or two nuclear weapons.
art bell
Yes, I've heard that.
ed dames
A couple of warheads.
That's not militarily decisive.
All that would do is serve to anger an opponent and initiate a war that would decimate the North.
It would cause untold casualties on both sides, but it would result in the decimation of the North.
art bell
Suicide.
ed dames
But essentially, yes.
The North Koreans are not going to do that.
They have a much better plan.
Much better plan.
One of these volleys of this new Taipong 2 missile appears it is going to be launched seaward, like the last test.
And one in 1993, there was another one similar to this, an earlier version.
That was a Long Dong 2, I believe, missile, a very primitive missile.
They're not so primitive anymore.
It appears, Art, that they're going to be able to squeeze some concessions out of the world after all, some more, while still maintaining their pride and still building up their forces.
Because you know what they have planned?
art bell
No, I don't.
unidentified
An open air test.
art bell
An open air test.
ed dames
Of a nuclear weapon.
art bell
Above ground, you mean?
ed dames
In the Pacific Ocean.
Just like we used to do five decades ago.
art bell
Oh, brother.
ed dames
So one of those babies and one of those volleys is going to have one of those two weapons on it.
It's going to be launched out there as an open air test.
Now, what do you think the reaction of the international community will be?
art bell
It's going to be horrified.
ed dames
It will be horrified.
And what do you think we will do?
Anything we can to prevent that from happening again.
art bell
In other words, you're saying they will launch a missile with a nuclear warhead which will detonate over the ocean somewhere.
Is that right?
ed dames
Just like we used to do five decades ago.
So why can't they?
After all, they're a developing country.
We have no right to interfere with their autonomy.
art bell
I don't know.
ed dames
Because we're 50 years ahead.
art bell
I don't think we ever actually launched a nuclear weapon and detonated it by missile, did we?
ed dames
Well, I think there was one test like that.
art bell
Was there?
ed dames
The others were bombs.
They were bombs.
art bell
Right.
ed dames
So what's the difference?
A bomb and a missile.
The point is, why should we deny that a developing country the same thing we did five decades ago, and they did not sign any treaties?
art bell
I understand.
ed dames
So what we'll do, what they'll be able to do from that is that is not a threshold enough for anybody to attack their homeland.
It's certainly a threshold for mass indignation on the part of the international community.
But what we'll do is provide concessions, anything we can, to stop them from doing that again.
And they will have won, once again.
I think it's a diabolically brilliant plan myself.
It's something I would never have thought of, but it looks like it's coming, either the first or the second volley.
That's what they have on the drawing board.
art bell
How sure are you of this?
ed dames
Oh, we're running about 85% right now.
unidentified
You're right.
art bell
I mean, you're right.
That's a diabolical plan.
You're right also when you say that if you have a few nuclear weapons, two or three or even four, the use of them would simply be suicidal.
However, a wise political use of them would be to demonstrate your ability to deliver them to a great distance, and then you have a war.
ed dames
Without attacking a country in international waters.
Of course, it's unthinkable that a developed country would do that knowing what we know today.
And yet, five decades ago, we were doing it.
We were.
art bell
It's true.
ed dames
So it is a desperately brilliant plan.
It's not threshold for an attack on their country, but it's a threshold for a maximum amount of reaction, and in the end, that reaction will be to help that country eat and to give that country what they want, anything, so that they don't do that again.
unidentified
You're right.
art bell
That probably would be our reaction.
ed dames
It's the best nuclear blackmail on the books.
art bell
But wouldn't they almost have to announce what they were going to do just before they did it so that...
ed dames
Yes, I think that they would do that.
art bell
Otherwise...
ed dames
Or while the thing is in route.
unidentified
Yeah, well, otherwise...
ed dames
it might be regarded as an attack by one nation or another because you're in shipping range and those kinds of things yes i think there will be an announcement we are about to launch a missile and uh by the way uh you know it's heading downrange with uh with kim jong-hil's uh uh new weapon uh.
Don't interfere with our autonomy, something like that.
Because that's what they usually do.
art bell
You're right.
Tactically, that would be brilliant.
We live in strange times.
ed dames
It lives in very strange times.
But that is a very strange country.
It is the most deadly threat that America faces right now, North Korea.
art bell
Most of the intelligence people I've had on have agreed with that.
ed dames
Yeah, I'm in the process of writing a report to my cronies in Washington about this now, but we're watching it closely.
art bell
I'd like to take you way back now to your Dr. Doom designation.
Why were you actually given that name, Dr. Doom?
ed dames
I spent quite a bit of time briefing at the White House, the Department of the Army's perspective on exotic weapons.
art bell
You actually briefed the White House?
ed dames
Yes, I was the talking dog.
I took the developments for Army intelligence results in arenas of exotic weapons and briefed at the old executive office building those U.S. intelligence, what U.S. intelligence had on very exotic weaponry developments in foreign countries.
Non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation weapons, biochemical weapons, things like that.
art bell
So then obviously with the kind of reports that you brought back, you earned that nickname.
ed dames
It wasn't just how many, what was the megatonnage and throw weights today.
It was how many exotic ways do you have to kill a man that have never been heard of before but that the Soviets may be developing.
And they were pretty exotic and very scary.
art bell
When you delivered this information to the White House, how do you think it was received?
ed dames
Well, I watched how it was received.
Normally staff, well, I briefed the National Security Council too, but at the White House it was you generally dealt with civilians who all they were familiar with were nuclear weapons and what might the SS-18 have in it, how many decoys, how many MERCs, that kind of thing.
art bell
Sure.
ed dames
But when I briefed, it was, this is how you're going to die when this weapon is used.
It will be slow and excruciating.
It will be delayed reaction, on and on and on.
art bell
So now, folks, you know how he got his name.
Ed, the last time you were on, we discussed I had had Colin Cullaher on the show from NIDS, and we were talking about the ranch where all these strange things are going on.
And you mentioned the fact that a mother and an infant could be used as bait, literal bait, to cause whoever is out there to come down and make contact.
And John Alexander called during that show and said, in fact, they had had a mother and infant and removed them from that site where that work is going on for their own safety because of a, quote, perceived danger.
John called me earlier tonight, John Alexander, and said, please say hi to Ed.
He's a good old friend of mine.
He says, I've given him a lot of hell over the years, but he's a good friend.
Say hi.
So John says hi.
ed dames
Colonel Alexander and I have gone through a lot together, and he is a good friend.
art bell
Would you like to amplify a little bit?
It really intrigued a lot of people the concept that contact with whatever may be out there will not occur until they have concluded something about us.
And what is that something that would be concluded with the use of a mother and an infant?
ed dames
It deals with symbols, symbology.
And we continue, humans continue, at least in these decades, we continue to look at these visitors in terms of their technology.
I've been around and around with you and your listeners on this before.
And this is not about technology.
Technology does not impress something that's nominally 100 million years ahead of us in evolution.
art bell
I wouldn't think so.
ed dames
They're interested in something else.
What are we capable of knowing and doing as humans?
If we can use a tool, if we can leapfrog ahead and use something like remote viewing to look at these visitors, who they are, then we can communicate with them.
We need to establish some baseline data first.
We've got to be able to reach their minds using these unconscious tools.
And when we do that, we'll see that many of these visitors are essentially sub-creators.
They are not the creator, but they are individuals that were entities that were involved in our creation, the creation of humankind.
And because of that, they're very interested in us and survival and in the ideas about life on Earth and Homo sapiens.
That idea is best expressed by the union of a mother and child.
That's what we find for remote viewing.
art bell
Now, Colonel Alexander said there was a perceived danger to the mother and child that were there.
The mother and infant.
Would you disagree?
In other words, would you suggest that their presence would not invite danger to them personally?
ed dames
Have you ever really heard of someone being killed or injured by lights in the sky?
Well, I haven't.
Scared?
Scared to death?
Yes.
art bell
Yes.
ed dames
Killed or injured?
unidentified
No.
ed dames
I mean, we we somebody has gotta have the courage to, you know, face this dragon.
It's just like the Wizard of Oz, art.
You know, we got this this person behind this curtain pulling levers and bells and lights, and it's a darn scary thing until you pull that curtain back and you tap that person on the shoulder and say, I see you.
And with technical remote viewing, that's what we can do.
We get to really see who's behind this facade.
And it is a lot of smoke and mirrors.
It's a lot of smoke and mirrors.
It's purposeful.
It's purposeful nonsense because they, the visitors, want us to develop a way to get behind the smoke and mirrors and see who they really are.
Then there will be contact.
art bell
Well, if you look at that experiment and then you look at the possibility of North Korea launching a long, whatever it is, missile with a nuclear warhead into the Pacific to detonate above ground, and you look at these two things and you consider the visitors and possible contact, you've got to sit back and wonder what those two conflicting signals would say to them.
ed dames
It's all the more reason for possible what might be called desperation on their part.
I think there is a prime directive.
There's something that precludes them landing on the White House lawn and saying, we're here to help you.
And we've discussed this on your show before.
art bell
We have, yes.
ed dames
I think they're pushing the limit, trying to get us, and that is why so much activity is on that ranch in places like that, because they want us to solve this problem.
They are offering up their presence as a conundrum, a puzzle, a problem to be solved.
We're not smart enough to crack it.
We keep looking at their technology.
And it's not about technology.
It's about being human and our humanness.
art bell
I completely understand what you're saying.
All right.
Hold on, Ed.
Bottom of the hour right now.
I'm Art Bell.
My guest is Sitex Major Ed Dames.
Remote viewing is the way the information is gleaned.
And it's kind of rough, some of it.
Which signal do you think they'll see first?
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
Coast AM
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art bell
That's exactly what it is, and my guest is Major Ed Dames, Sitex Major Ed Dames.
And again, I warn you, the information, as you can tell by now, is pretty worrisome stuff.
And if you are affected adversely by worrisome stuff, I won't say predictions, because that is not what remote viewing does.
But information, if you're affected adversely by it, please tune out.
And if you have children in the room, please get them out of the room.
unidentified
This is not for kids.
art bell
That's for sure.
Ed will be right back.
All right.
Back now to Major Ed Dames.
Ed, one quickie for you here.
Somebody facts is, Ed has not talked for a great while about Mars.
Could he possibly give us an update on the statement he made once, which was roughly, something is waking up.
ed dames
Mars is a way station.
It's sort of a there's parking lots, I'll use the term loosely, on Earth's moon and on Mars, subsurface, below the surface.
There are robotic, let's call them robotic, for lack of a better word, sort of like sentient robots that are parked in places beneath the surface of Mars and on Earth's moon.
And those things are beginning to stir.
There's some type of activity associated with these machines.
And these machines are, I could not even venture to say how long they've been there.
A million years, two million?
I have no idea, but they've been there a long, long time.
At any rate, they're beginning to wake up.
I use that term loosely, but this is something that's almost beyond our ken.
And yet they're there.
art bell
Okay, this is apparently then from our perspective of mortal time, which is very short on this earth, will it occur in our lifetime?
Will we know this is occurring, or is this a long-term process?
ed dames
I'm not sure.
I'm just not sure.
art bell
One of the toughest things that it seems to me after interviewing You so many times, Ed.
The toughest things for you to do with respect to anything that you say is going to happen or that you have seen coming is specific timelines.
ed dames
That's correct.
As a predictive tool, as a predictive tool, remote viewing is difficult.
We can't nail time down.
The best that we can do in terms of a future event is to say the next event will be this.
But we can't pinpoint the next where we are in time.
art bell
How do you do timelines at all?
Even rough timelines?
How do you come up with them?
ed dames
We look at current states of affairs worldwide on the globe, and we see how close we are juxtaposed to our information.
The event that's been described in the information, a good example would be Korea.
It's been about two years now, two and a half years, since we were sure that the next use of a nuclear weapon would be Korea.
So looking ahead, we didn't really have a clear idea about how long that would be.
We knew it would happen before the solar kill shot, because we can place events, bracket them in time, and juxtapose them one before another.
So we knew that that would be before the solar event.
But we didn't know how far down the road the solar kill shot would be.
So we didn't have a standard for our timeline.
It's very difficult to do that.
Now you can see that the situation in Korea is becoming very hairy, very fast, and it's a fait accompli that something is going to give in Korea very fast.
So now we get a better idea of when this event might occur.
That's why we're watching the situation so closely, and we're getting more details, because we're closer on the horizon to finally, to the actual event.
So when we build remote viewing itself, there are other things, caveats here that we have to be careful of.
In technical remote viewing, you're sitting at a table, you have pen and paper in hand, in a very attentive state, going through a set of rigorous attention management techniques, and you're building up on your canvas, on these pieces of paper, you're moving into the target.
Actually, you're bringing it into your own conscious awareness in a very gross way, from the gross to the general, to the specific, to the detailed description and sketches of the target.
This takes at least 45 minutes in a series of remote viewing sessions.
So it's like building up the target like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
We know, we knew in the laboratory when we made these mistakes, people are still making these mistakes, of getting caught up in the drama of the target.
If there's a murder going on that you're looking at, it could be in the past, it could be present time, if there's a battle going on.
If you cross a 50% line where 50% of your awareness is now at the remote target instead of in the room where you are jotting down all this information and following these rigorous taught protocols, if you cross that line, the flow of information will stop.
Remote viewing is not an experience.
It's an information collection tool.
So for instance, what good would it do, let's say your mother had a breast tumor, what good would it do if remote viewing were an experience where you finally experience your mother's breast tumor?
As opposed to where is the position in the breast?
How large is it?
What's the makeup of the cells?
Is it benign or malign?
art bell
Sure.
ed dames
Those kinds of things.
We don't want to stop the flow of information.
So if we get caught up in the drama, it becomes an oh wow experience, which we can do, by the way.
But technical remote viewing precludes that from happening.
Well, all right.
art bell
How about this, Ed?
You obviously are in the middle of a big emotional experience right now.
unidentified
You're in love.
art bell
You're about to get married.
Does this make a project more difficult for you?
ed dames
The fact that you are yourself overwhelmed with some sort of emotion in your life presently, does that make it more difficult to No, only if that particular brand of emotion is connected and coincidental with your target, only then it could actually not only hamper our work but preclude us from working a target at all.
I've mentioned before, let's say that you had a friend that was murdered or a friend that died under mysterious circumstances.
art bell
I had a cousin who died.
ed dames
In fact, I remember your cousin Freddy.
Now I could remote even with knowing the euphoria of being engaged and about to be married to my beloved, I could still turn my attention to your cousin without any problem whatsoever.
art bell
As long as there was no connection to your situation.
ed dames
If you were my cousin, that may not be the case.
Because I would be overwhelmed by emotions connected with the target, and I would not be able to shunt them effectively during my remote viewing session.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
You are somebody who, actually, I think I've been the only one over the years who has interviewed you on the radio.
ed dames
I've never done any other show.
I'm exclusive to you for two reasons.
One, I don't have the time, and two, it's just a pure pleasure to be on here.
art bell
Thank you.
People have both emotions about you.
unidentified
They really, really, really either love you or really hate you or really love to hate you.
art bell
It's one of the above and nothing in the middle.
And here's one that I would say falls into the I'm not so hot on him category.
Art, it seems incredible that you lend any credence to Ed Dames, especially his, quote, remote viewing, end quote, into the future.
Can you give any proof that this supposed technology is real?
Can you state any of his predictions that have ever come true?
As far as I'm concerned, his speculations on the kill shot are nothing more than idle speculations.
Why should he be believed?
Ron in Mountain View, California.
ed dames
Well, I could wax at length about this, but let me give you a good example.
It's a nice one, too.
I began to broach this before I break.
Three years ago, on one of my first shows, I talked to you about this project that remote viewers, my remote viewers, did looking at the surface of Titan, the largest moon of Saturn.
art bell
Oh yes.
ed dames
And on your show I said what we found, in fact this was in response to a caller who asked if we had looked for other life in the universe and I said that yes, we had found something that looked like a sponge, what we would call a sponge.
Actually I don't know what it is, but it looks like the Earth's equivalent of a sponge on a sea, in the seas of Titan.
That Titan had seas and this organism was living in these seas.
art bell
I remember that, yes.
ed dames
And NASA only two weeks ago confirmed that Titan had seas.
So in terms of exobiology, exogeology, and exploration in general of the solar system, this is a wonderful tool.
It can help point spacecrafts, cameras, and even landers in the right direction for more bang for the buck.
It saves a lot of money in terms of engineering and science and technology development.
art bell
Well, look, I've been interviewing you, as we just pointed out, for years, and I too could sit here and point to many things that you've hit right on the mark.
You've had some misses.
ed dames
Yes, of course there have been some misses, but it's difficult to deal with what I would call a soundbite mentality.
It is easier to work with the scientific community because when you walk into a briefing room, you have scientists who listen to the context as well as the meaning instead of just grabbing and selectively listening.
And so it is difficult to work with the public when you're dealing with a technology tool like this that's so fraught with emotional involvement on the part of so many people.
Very difficult indeed.
art bell
Then too, I think the very nature of the material is so disturbing at times, Ed, that people don't want to hear it.
In other words, they simply don't want to hear that our environment may be so bad that we may all be underground or in domed cities, as Sylvia said, or whatever.
But I hear you, I hear Sylvia, I hear so many others saying roughly the same thing, coming at, oh, you know, from different directions and different perspectives, but saying roughly the same thing.
ed dames
These are personal choices.
Technical remote viewing is accurate all of the time.
The human, which is the tool that uses the technical remote viewing, may not be accurate, but the techniques are.
They've tried and proven, otherwise it would not have been a military tool.
It has been my choice to emphasize on your program that my old Dr. Doom had.
And that is because the kinds of things that are coming are going to kill a lot of people.
art bell
Well, again, yes, it has been your most accurate area.
The environmental area absolutely has been the most accurate area for you.
ed dames
We have other accurate areas, and I don't emphasize them on your show, but they're just as accurate and just as detailed as the environmental stuff.
And that deals with medical issues, aren't medical issues.
Yes, we're very, very good and very, very accurate at dealing with medical diagnoses, treatments, and cures.
And I have not emphasized that on your show because if we do, I am inundated with thousands of emails asking for help, and I don't know what to do except wring my hands because I can't help that many people specifically.
Having said that, however, there are generic diseases and maladies that do have generic cures, and in those cases, we could help a lot of people.
art bell
I don't recall, I do believe that we discussed it last time, and I think you said you might take a look at it, but there's a big, big controversy going on right now about jet contrails.
And there are quite a number of people who believe that these jet contrails contain something other than the normal water vapor created by a jet, you know, passing rapidly through the air.
Now, I know you're aware of this, and I think that we talked about the possibility of your looking at this.
ed dames
We did look at it, we did talk about it on your show, and there are three or four, there are three or four types of contrails.
Three of them we talked about, and I said that the fourth one is classified, and I cannot talk about, but it deals with, if I did talk about it, not only would I breach security, but your listeners would be very angry because it's something that deals with the defense of the nation, and that's about all I can say.
If I gave that away, I would give away to a potential enemy something very valuable.
art bell
No, I had to try.
I had to try.
ed dames
That's not a cop-out.
I don't usually say things like that.
I usually cross the line, right?
Yeah.
art bell
Here's one who says, look, Ed is right about new crop raising techniques.
In my research, I've increased the number of plants per acre.
I control everything from soil to water.
I proved we can raise 464,000 radishes per greenhouse acre, and on and on and on.
So he says you're not half as crazy as half the people think out there, that this is a rather immediate thing.
From my perspective, Ed, if we enter a time of starvation, if the environment deteriorates to the point where either we have to be under domes or underground, a lot of people are going to not want to live like that.
Do you understand that?
ed dames
Yes, I do understand that.
But there is something coming, and it's worth waiting for.
There are a number of different things coming.
If you can hold out, if there's another generation of children.
Our grandchildren have something special waiting for them.
But they've got to make it to that something special.
art bell
Our grandchildren.
ed dames
Yes.
There's something very special waiting for our grandchildren.
art bell
Well, that's a...
ed dames
And that's what our grandchildren have to look forward to.
So it's worth surviving for in those terms alone.
art bell
Project Star Man.
Might be a good time to mention that.
Project Star Man was described by you as an attempt for contact.
Any updates?
ed dames
No, not at this point.
art bell
That's interesting.
ed dames
Their timing, not mine.
the timing is somebody else's.
We can't, you know, we, it's, It's not our call.
art bell
All right.
As some people might not want to face what you see coming, they also get angry when they hear you speak about it.
I know that you get these same reactions, I'm sure, after you do each program by email and all the rest of it.
How do you handle it?
What do you tell them?
Do you write back to people and what do you say to them?
ed dames
Well, for one thing, I don't have to do this anymore.
I mean, it's over.
We were here, 1999.
The hammer's about to fall.
We're going to have to start dodging Thor's hammer pretty soon.
And I don't have to do this anymore.
People who I've moved, based upon my information, I'm in place.
I'm in paradise.
My company here is here.
My employees are safe.
We have freshwater.
So I acted on information that I glean from technical remote viewing.
I took a big risk.
I left Beverly Hills, California.
art bell
I know.
ed dames
Very lucrative environment, business-wise, and moved out in the middle of Iraq in the Pacific.
So I acted on that myself.
What other people do is up to them.
People who have learned remote viewing know that it works, and many of them have acted also.
unidentified
And so that's about saving lives.
art bell
Yeah, I understand.
And at about that time, that's when you turned the tapes loose, right?
That was pretty close.
In other words, as you were making the decision to leave, you also were making the decision to release the videotapes.
ed dames
Well, we had to remain in the L.A. area where all the expertise was until the tapes were finished.
art bell
Correct.
ed dames
Yeah, we couldn't abandon that.
Which is still, that is why I am now turning my attention.
I'm leading the company administrative side to the good graces and the very capable hands of our corporate vice president, Joni Dureff.
I am going on the road to teach again and to spend some time in my laboratory.
That's why I say the next time you hear from me, it will be from China.
Because teaching, that's where my roots are, and that's where our real responsibility is.
Because with TRV, you can turn your attention to anything in the universe.
Where do you stop?
In terms of epistemology, the philosophy of knowledge acquisition, there's no end to what we can know.
But my responsibility is to teach others what we do so that they can do the same thing and make choices for themselves.
And I feel that's still a responsibility.
And I need to do that in terms of our tape trainees to stay on the internet, spend more time with advanced training, which our company does for free, by the way, for our tape producers, and to get out in the street to the grassroots level, this time in Asia, China.
Thank you to the people.
art bell
Hold it right there.
We'll be right back.
Ed Dames is my guest, Major Ed Dames.
And we are going to go to the phone line shortly.
So if you have a question, and I'm sure you do, boy, I'm sitting here looking at a picture of the tornado coming down right in the center of Salt Lake City.
I'm Mark Bell, and this is Coast to Coast Anne.
unidentified
I can feel my back in a second grip.
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art bell
And one more time, as we enter this hour, I would like to get the information out for Ed Dames.
He has a series of tapes that will teach you to do what he does, remote view.
The first tape is an introductory tape, and I can guarantee you this.
The production quality, in fact of all of them, is a triple A. It really is excellent.
And if you watch the first tape, you will absolutely know whether you want to proceed or not.
And it's not for everybody.
Believe me, it's not.
If you would like to find out whether it's for you, the first tape is just $49.95.
The complete set, $249.95, And that's about $70 off the original price.
It's 10 hours of instruction, and you've really got to approach it like you would a college course.
I guess.
In other words, you've really got to get into it if you want to get anything out of it.
The numbers to call to order the tapes are 1-888-878-0333.
Let me repeat that.
188-878-0333.
Or there is a second number that's 1-877-878-1777.
1-877-878-1777.
And those numbers are good this morning as we do the program.
And then normally, I would presume during the day or maybe even 24 hours.
I don't know.
Ed, is it a 24-hour number usually?
ed dames
It is 24 hours.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I would like to give the audience an opportunity to ask questions.
And judging from the way things are buzzing here, there are a lot of questions.
So how about that?
unidentified
Shoot.
art bell
Yep, okay, shoot.
ed dames
I've noticed also I'd like to mention that since the last time we talked, Father Malachi Martin has passed away.
And that was great now.
art bell
That was very hard, very, very hard for me, Ed.
Father Malachi Martin and I had a number of private conversations, aside from what we did on the air.
And so I guess I can't talk about them.
But he did say something on the air about the third secret of Fatima that will always be with me.
And that was, he said, Art, if you can imagine the very worst that mankind could face, it's worse than that.
And he has read, he had read the third secret ephemera.
And I always kind of wondered if there was a parallel to what you saw.
ed dames
The best way we could describe it in terms of remote viewing, the third secret, is the opening of what in Revelation is called the Sixth Seal.
Read that, and you'll see how bad it can be.
art bell
And you believe that the Sixth Seal has been opened?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
art bell
First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
Hello.
Going once.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, hello.
ed dames
Hi.
art bell
You got to speak up, sir.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Let me try this.
ed dames
How's this?
art bell
Is this better, Art?
Oh, much better.
Where are you?
unidentified
This is Ross.
I'm calling from Las Vegas, listening to you on Hot Talk 1051.
art bell
You bet.
Ross, you're on the air with Ed.
unidentified
Ed, good morning, first of all.
ed dames
Good morning.
unidentified
And I wanted to ask you if you had done any remote viewing in regards to the possibility or the coming of the Antichrist.
And I asked this in view of some of the predictions that Sean Morton had done.
ed dames
All right.
art bell
Actually, I'm not sure about the Antichrist.
I know that Ed has remote viewed Satan.
That was really something, but Ed, the Antichrist?
ed dames
We have, and we talked about it on one of your shows.
It appears to be a baby that is a throwaway baby, almost literally thrown into a dumpster upon birth.
That's about all that we know.
And we think this baby, I'm familiar with the ages and how old this individual is supposed to be at what time.
But according to our data, it appears to be a baby that was born last year or this year and thrown away literally in a dumpster.
And I won't say where in the world.
I don't want to do that because we're not going to change things.
Anyway, this person appears to become what in the literature is described as the Antichrist.
art bell
The Antichrist is alive now.
ed dames
As an infant, yes.
And has been retrieved from garbage.
So it was human garbage for a while.
art bell
All right.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, all right.
Thank you for taking the call.
art bell
Sir, you're going to have to yell at us.
You're not.
unidentified
Oh, all right.
art bell
How about that?
That sounds better.
unidentified
I called you the other night when John Nolan was on with the author of the book Confidential.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I was the last caller, and I was talking about some of my experiences with technology theft.
I had worked with Taylor Kramer, or you called him Philip Kramer.
I knew him as Taylor Kramer, the former drummer for the Iron Butterfly and video compression specialist.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And we crossed some of the same people.
He's the second person that's disappeared out of my life.
Another esteemed scientist, a Blair Newman, that a lot of people on the well should perk their ears up to that name.
There was a lot of speculation regarding his death, too.
He supposedly committed suicide about four hours after I left him.
He said he was in fear of his life, and I had taken some of the technology that we were working on, and he had just bought a Doombuggie and was talking about bombing around on the Dooms.
And then four to eight hours later, he supposedly committed suicide.
I had his autopsy report and everything.
And then I was working with Taylor Kramer.
And two days after I had my last meeting with Taylor, he disappeared.
And it looks like I was, and I believe he was to some degree, although I haven't been able to pin it down.
The FBI has not been forthcoming with any information for me regarding some of the Asians that are involved with Johnny Chung, John Wang, the technology transfer, a lot of the same things that John Nolan had spoke of and the 3,000 Chinese front companies.
And I know that, Mr. Dames, you had said that there was some nefarious characters involved and you believed that his death was not just a what did they do, determined that he just drove off a cliff and killed himself or something?
I don't know.
ed dames
It's undetermined.
We knew as remote viewers he died in his van in the environs of L.A. But personally, I made the mistake of saying his body was in Montana because the elements that he was involved in had killed someone and buried them in Montana.
And I personally slipped onto that.
I was dealing with two other missing children at the time, so that was my mistake.
But we know he was being blackmailed.
That we know, and we have details about that that we don't want to make public because the request of his family.
unidentified
I know you're going to be in China.
I have not been able to talk to Kathy Kramer yet.
I hope to be able to find her once again.
ed dames
Well, that's a sister, but there's also a wife and two children involved, too.
So sometimes it is that horse lie.
unidentified
That technology, from my information, and this comes out of E.E. Times'May 25th article that China is now heavily involved in using along with a couple of major American companies that I had referenced out of the Forbes magazine article of May 17th.
So while you're over there, I don't know if that gives you...
ed dames
They're going to figuratively eat us.
So, like I say, if you can't beat them, join them.
art bell
I, too, believe that about China.
And, Ed, when you get over there and you see it again in modern day, it's going to scare the hell out of you.
I saw it.
It scared me, profoundly scared me, what I saw going on over there.
Bob Crane just went over and he said if you were scared before, you'd be really terrified now.
So you're right about they're going to pass us like a freight train in the night.
ed dames
Yep, 25% of the world's population.
They have our W-88 now, our neutron, our highest, most sophisticated weapon.
They have it in their hands.
All we have to do is just build them, and then they're going to be equal with us, and after that, Katie barred the door.
So let's not kid ourselves here.
I'm not.
art bell
No, I'm with you all the way on this one.
East of the Rockies, you're on there with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
art bell
Where are you, sir?
unidentified
I am in Fargo, North Dakota.
All right.
And I have a question concerning the passing of Comet Lee.
All right.
Is it correct that it is passing pretty much as we speak?
art bell
Well, of course, yes.
Comet Lee has already passed the closest point of the sun, I believe.
I'm not an astronomer.
Do you have any comments at all on Comet Lee, Ed?
ed dames
I haven't been tracking Comet Lee.
I'm interested in if the trajectory has been determined or not yet.
But I haven't seen any details.
unidentified
Apparently, scientists do not believe it's close enough to Earth to be any danger, but I have heard a prediction by Nostradamus, where he predicted there would be a comet that came out of the constellation of Cancer, and that was what Comet Lee came from.
ed dames
There is a lot of synchronicity.
art bell
Yeah, there is.
Now, there was late word, scientific word, I believe, that Comet Lee has brightened unaccountably, much brighter than they thought that it was going to be.
And I received that in the last 24 or 48 hours somewhere.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, you guys.
It's the Zappa fan.
How are you, Ed?
ed dames
Hi.
unidentified
Congrats on your recent engagement.
ed dames
Thank you.
unidentified
First of all, Art, I wanted to thank you for casting such a huge spotlight on Pacifica.
art bell
Glad to help.
unidentified
I think the left is so atrophied and anemic these days that they need some voices out there, some outlets.
Well, Ed, I just called to rattle your cage a bit because, you know, someone has to do it.
Somebody could be the only one who wants to take the job.
My theory is that Ed is actually the real-life version of the X-Files cigarette smoking man.
The frustrated science fiction writer who can't even give away his manuscript, so he comes on the show to rant.
Let us not forget that Whitley Strieber, before he did any of his abduction books, was a fantasy horror writer.
Wolfen is one of his books.
Also, interestingly enough, L. Ron Hubbard.
And I think the long-standing rumor of Scientology was that he bet some friends he could start a religion and make it hugely successful.
But I have to say, my favorite story is the sentient robots caring for hibernating organisms under the monuments of Mars, because that's my favorite yarn even more than the remote viewing Satan Rift, because it has this real 50s pulp, amazing stories feel to it.
And I think that you and Chris Carter really need to do lunch, Ed.
art bell
Yeah, we have.
unidentified
Sometimes it's actually your listeners that frighten me more than any of your guests.
And pardon me, Ed, but those that, nothing personal, but those that accept the Twilight Zone tales unquestioningly are to me most likely, excuse me, most likely the same people who believe that WWF is real and the Blair Witch Project is a true story.
ed dames
I'm not a TV grower, a TV watcher, or a writer.
So a lot of this is being lost on me.
And sometimes art imitates life.
art bell
Yeah, that's what I've said.
That's the one thing, Caller.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You'll get to say it.
unidentified
Hold on.
art bell
Caller, you know something?
If you look back and you read the old science fiction, and when I say old, I mean 50 years ago.
You know what writers were writing then?
unidentified
Silver mystery story, things like that.
Well, I did want to leave you with one thing.
Ed, you did mention that you thought one of the reasons we're no longer in the dark ages of the early national security state days is because of the press.
But I have to bring people's attention to an article that came out in 1978 by Joseph Trento, the spy who came in from the newsroom, where the Compline News Service had to admit that they had 23 paid employees working as journalists and that they were getting stories fed.
And I think through recent Freedom of Information Act materials, it's been alleged that there's CIA attachés at every small and large TV, radio station, newspaper, and magazine.
And I'll give you exactly a quote, if you'd like.
Evelyn, a dog, having undergone further modification, pondered the significance of short-person behavior until the press, penchromatic resonances, and other highly ambient domains.
ed dames
Well, I'm glad that I'm entertaining for you.
And I'm glad you're there.
But there really are some laws that are passed, and there are charters and there are laws that apply to the intelligence agencies, and they are quite real.
One of those laws, those laws have not been passed until the last 15 years, 10 years.
Two of those laws are no CIA agents as journalists and as ministers or representatives of religious organizations and they mean it.
So if you do that as an agent or an agency, you go to jail and those are very real laws.
That was not the case 20 years ago at all.
It was carte blanche.
Take my word for it.
art bell
What my guests the other night said too.
First time call our line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
West of the Rockies call toll-free 1-800-618-8255 out of Seattle, Washington.
Okay, I'm going to have to bleep that out, Steve.
Sorry about that.
So we're going to try it from the top here since we don't have the last names.
Your name is Steve.
You're in Seattle?
Yes, I had a question here for, well, evening out there, Mr. Deans.
It's late night over here where I'm at.
I had one question for.
I have to write it down because it's just one long, complete sentence with many facets, if I may.
Are you there?
Yes, we're here.
ed dames
Fire away.
art bell
Okay, I'll fire away.
Everything I've been listening to tonight, and I listen to art religiously for years gone by.
My question is, everything that you've been saying, a little bit about a lot of things, does, for example, the New World Order, the One World Government, Y2K, solar flare-ups come January, the May 2000 plan alignment, and if I may throw a pun in there, the Federation, Next Generation, is any or all of this connected somehow or another?
ed dames
Well, some of those things I don't even recognize.
Others are speculative in nature as events and or problematic.
So I can't answer your question.
We're connected, you and I, by a higher agency, but I don't know if those things are connected.
art bell
Well, I guess events, Ed, as you describe them, as you look down a timeline and you see the various spikes of things that are coming, or I suppose if you were to look back the spikes that have been, looking back, it seems to me in your business would be a great way to calibrate the way you look at things.
ed dames
I agree.
But I can only generalize a statement, and that would be similar to what you call the quickening, I call a confluence of events.
It's the same animal by different names.
art bell
Gotcha.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
In Toronto?
art bell
Toronto.
All right, sir.
unidentified
How are you today, gentlemen?
ed dames
We're all right.
unidentified
I talked to you last time before Ed went and researched into Satan.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I brought up Wilhelm Reich at that time.
But what I would like to question right now, I have been doing after projection out of body travel, but I haven't been able to put the conscious-subconscious link together.
I just about died of carbon monoxide poisoning when the lady next door died in the townhouse complex almost a year ago now.
And I've gone through some massive changes.
I am going to order your course.
Is that going to help me develop this to the utmost?
ed dames
What is your goal?
unidentified
Leading the people that are surviving.
That's my mission, not my goal.
I've been told what to do.
I know.
ed dames
And what's the means by which you're going to lead?
How are you going to do that?
With information?
unidentified
With information plus supplies plus buildup the same as what you've done.
I'm doing the same, trying to do the same thing up here in Toronto.
And I would like to know whether your course will put me over the top so I can put the conscious-subconscious link together on my astroprojecting.
All right.
art bell
That's a reasonable question, actually.
ed dames
Remote viewing has nothing to do with astral projection.
That is a different phenomenon.
It's something we experimented with in the military, but we could not cause it.
We did not have on-off control of astral projection.
When it happened, it was such an awing experience that it was very much like us when we're remote viewing crossing that line and experiencing the target.
It is not a data collection mechanism.
And it's not connected with remote viewing.
So they're two separate things.
art bell
Two separate things.
So when you remote view, you are not out of your body, are you?
ed dames
You aren't.
And you're not going anywhere.
You are turning your attention, your unconscious attention, toward a specific pattern of information.
art bell
Is there any commonality, though, in the realm in which the information or the out-of-body experience occurs?
ed dames
No, there is not.
Out-of-body is in a different dimension, and remote viewing is in a dimension of mind.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
All right.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on there with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Yes.
Ed, aren't you the gentleman that predicted, I think, about six or seven months ago, that in July of 99 somebody would release anthrax into Yankee Stadium?
ed dames
No.
We remote viewed Mastrodamus' quatrain, vis-à-vis the king of terror, and said that what he was looking at was that, and that he chose the date, the seventh month.
We wondered whether or not he was correct time-wise.
art bell
And you will also recall, sir, that the seventh month is actually a period of time between July and September, it's widely thought, not just July.
unidentified
Okay, well, we're in, here we are about mid-August.
art bell
That's correct.
ed dames
Remote viewing cannot nail down time.
That's why we were so interested in this quatrain.
Number one, we wanted to see what Nostradamus was describing in the contemporary vernacular, in terms of contemporary meaning.
And it turns out the king of terror was the king of terrorists.
It is an attack on a stadium using biological weapons by a terrorist.
But Nostradamus said the seventh month.
We wondered if Santi was such a prominent savant if he could call it from that far back, several centuries ago.
unidentified
Okay, but you stated the belief that after all the work that you've done with your remote viewing team, that you took this to mean that, I mean, you made a very specific prediction.
You said it would be probably July 1st.
art bell
It was again, sir.
ed dames
He said specifically what he was looking at was a terrorist attack on what appeared to be a continental U.S. stadium using a biological weapon.
The date, we wondered about the date.
That's what attracted our attention because it was one of the few quadrains where he specified a date.
And that's something that we can't do.
unidentified
That's what he did.
art bell
We're going to have to hold it there, but that's exactly right.
That was the remote viewing of a quadrain from Nostradomisis, which is not yet in the failed category.
unidentified
Pretty woman, walking down this street.
Pretty woman, the kind I like to meet.
Pretty woman, I don't need you to look at me.
You're not the truth.
No one could look as good as you Here's a time I'll go Lips sweet and dry.
My hands never cold.
She's got bad days aside.
She's turned on you this horn.
What happened to thanks twice?
She's job of New York snow.
She's got bad days.
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art bell
That would be us, all right.
My guest is Ed Dames.
Major Ed Dames, Sidex Ed Dames.
And we'll get back to him in your call shortly.
Back now to Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Ed?
ed dames
Here, Art.
art bell
Okay, good.
Lots and lots and lots of people want to talk to you.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Top of the morning to you.
unidentified
Good morning.
This is Dan in El Paso.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I have two questions for Ms. Dink.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
First one is, in the 20 years that you were working for the government, did you ever use remote viewing for domestic purposes as far as inserted subversive groups?
Ooh.
ed dames
Only counter-narcotics.
And that was by our permission.
As you know, the Army, U.S. Army, Department of Defense in those days is not allowed to use intelligence methods against American civilians.
That's the FBI's balik.
And CIA is political and economic intelligence overseas.
So there are rules, restrictions, charters, and we do not have the license to do that except when counter-narcotics operations became part of our charter.
So only for that reason.
unidentified
And real quick.
ed dames
Wait a minute.
There was one other area, too.
When we had a foreign, a known KGB agent in the country, then we coordinated our activities, our attack, if you will, with the FBI.
And we did use remote viewing to get into the minds and the operations of some KGB science and technology officers that were in the United States.
unidentified
Second question, now that your technique has gone, I could say commercial, and you will be going to China to teach, do we run the risk of the same methods being used as far as industrial espionage?
And I know that every measure has a countermeasure.
Does it remote viewing have a defense mechanism in it too?
ed dames
No.
There are none.
unidentified
None at all?
ed dames
None at all.
unidentified
All right, sir.
art bell
Thank you.
Remarkable.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
I just wanted to ask a question and then a comment.
Have you read Hal Lindsay's The Late Great Planet Earth book?
ed dames
I have not.
I'm aware of the.
unidentified
Well, it's very interesting.
He reveals and goes in detail about the prophecies of the Bible coming to pass.
And we're in for a lot worse than what these days are now.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
ed dames
Hug time in the old town tonight.
I agree.
unidentified
And, you know, all these killings and child molesters, I mean, it's just going to get worse.
But I was going to make a comment that the six seal that you talked about, I believe it's going to be in the tribulation period.
ed dames
There are many people in disagreement with Sitex prognostications and data.
We're saying that the sixth seal is open, already open.
We're on the front end of the effects, beginning with volcanism.
unidentified
Right.
Do you believe that, like, within the next 15 to 20 years, that the Lord Jesus is going to come back?
ed dames
I don't know.
unidentified
You don't know?
ed dames
I have no idea.
unidentified
Well, I do think maybe you could try whatever you do just to see what that's about.
ed dames
What good would it do?
unidentified
Why not?
What good would it do?
I mean, if the Libra's already been proven to be the truth and if there's gonna be if this world is gonna get worse, no rich or poor poor poor person is gonna survive.
Not e even if they're close to water.
art bell
Then, ma'am, what he just said makes all the sense.
What good would it do?
In other words, if that is what is coming, what good does it do to know that?
If you read your Bible and you believe your Bible, then you know it's coming anyway.
So I think your answer is appropriate, Ed.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
ed dames
Greetings from Birmingham, Alabama, Art?
art bell
Alabama, yes, sir.
ed dames
And Ed, I've got several questions, but I may ask, venture in an answer to your previous question to the previous caller?
unidentified
Of course not.
ed dames
The answer I would say, what good would it do, would be that it might, you know, one might prepare their soul better to meet the Lord.
And that's not just a mere academic venture, but if the Lord Jesus is really coming back, then preparing to meet him would be a very practical thing to do.
But my question is...
I'm talking about the biblical prophecy that points to his coming back.
Oh, I see.
In terms of the prophecies, yes.
Preparation would be for survival, physical survival.
But my question had to do with a methodological question.
Why do you trust remote viewing as opposed to maybe exegesis of those prophecies?
I'm referring specifically to your past prognostication about the mark of the beast being an AIDS vaccine, which seems to be clearly absurd considering what the scriptures actually say about it.
The only way you can trust remote viewing is to actually be skilled in it yourself.
I'm not asking anyone who is not skilled in the techniques and the methods to trust it.
It would be like, how would you trust that machine over there that's parked on that runway to actually fly?
It looks like just a piece of metal to me, and there's no way I'm going to get in that.
You were saying it's going to fly at 1,000 miles an hour?
Uh-uh.
Well, actually, that was not my question on why, what I might trust remote viewing.
I was asking, why do you trust remote viewing?
And I might ask and Sylvia a question.
Why would you, I mean, excuse me, what's the distinction between clairvoyance and remote viewing as well as in light of what the scriptures say and sacred tradition says that these forms of divination are actually condemned by the God who has allegedly revealed the revelation?
art bell
All right.
Those are two questions.
ed dames
Actually a non-sequitur.
art bell
First question was, why do you trust remote viewing?
ed dames
Empirical data.
Remember, we had our Genesis as a military intelligence collection tool.
We had to be right in order to support military operations where life or death was at stake or deadly force was going to be used.
It was not used in extensive.
Remote viewing was used in conjunction with usually one or two other intelligence collection techniques, photo intelligence, signal intelligence, human intelligence, something like that.
So it wasn't used independent of, except in times of desperation when we had nothing else to go by.
And when we had to be able to refine the techniques to make them work every single time consistently, when you do that, then it becomes trustworthy based upon empirical experience.
art bell
His next question, I think, went to the biblical perspective of prognosticators, which he tossed you in with for the purposes of the criticism.
In other words, the Bible warns against people who will come along prophets, false prophets, and so forth and so on.
ed dames
We're not prophets.
This is an information collection tool.
That's all it is.
art bell
And that's the answer.
ed dames
We forecast.
We tend to forecast events, but we're not prophets.
The only prophets I know were written about in the Bible.
Period.
art bell
Period.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art Bell.
This is Damien.
I spoke to you last week.
How are you?
art bell
Hi, Damien.
unidentified
All right.
Hello, Major Ed Dames.
How are you doing?
ed dames
I'm doing fine.
art bell
Thanks.
unidentified
I have a few questions, as a matter of fact.
First one is, if one were to remote view the mind of an entity, for example, an extraterrestrial being of a particular race, or a demonic entity or an angel of any sort, can one use this information to gain power for one's own mind to do as they do, whether positive or negative?
ed dames
In terms of human potential, no, because those entities are not human.
One is extraterrestrial, one is angelic.
You can use it to enhance human potential.
For instance, the yoga cities, the advanced cities, those kinds of things.
Yes.
You can gain more access into more knowledge about how those kinds of things are executed, how they're trained, that kind of thing.
In terms of self-empowerment.
unidentified
My other question is, through the means of acquiring patterns of information by remote viewing, can this technology have the ability in some way or another to verbally communicate in an interaction of spoken word with the dead?
ed dames
With the dead.
art bell
With the dead.
Now there's a pretty interesting question.
That is an interesting question, Ed.
You certainly have found people to be dead, to be no longer living on earth, but I don't think I've ever heard anybody ask you about communication with those who have passed on.
ed dames
We've discussed it once or twice cursorly.
We split up into three separate systems just before death.
The soul goes one way, the body goes another, and the mind goes another.
The mind dissipates like a cloud dissipates.
Think of it in terms of an electromagnetic cloud.
It just dissipates.
It's around the electrical activity of the brain.
art bell
What we think of as our consciousness.
ed dames
Consciousness dissipates.
The body, we know what happens to the body.
And the soul takes off.
That's one's identity, one's essential essence.
That remains, but it goes away.
As remote viewers, we have no chain of custody.
We cannot track.
We have not succeeded in tracking that.
art bell
So I've never heard you say all this before.
That's very interesting.
Body, we all know what happens to that.
Who cares?
The mind, though, what kind of consciousness dissipates like a cloud.
ed dames
It panics as it dissipates.
By the way, it panics.
It panics at the fear of death.
And sometimes that cloud does not dissipate.
So many times when people talk about channel entities, what they have is a mind that Has latched on, usually by invitation, to another human.
It's sort of like a small growth.
Think of it that way.
art bell
Or a ghost, Ed?
ed dames
Yes, something like a ghost, also.
art bell
And the soul, separate from all this, goes forth.
But you know, Ed, here's the part that I don't get, I don't understand and maybe we're not meant to understand it, but what is the without consciousness then what what identifies my soul as as anything at all that remembers or has anything to do with this life or the next life or whatever it is that awaits us?
ed dames
I don't know.
art bell
That's a good answer.
That's a good answer.
But without the consciousness, then what is a soul?
ed dames
It's essentially your essential essence without a mind.
art bell
That's interesting.
That would account then.
ed dames
That's what's being harvested from this planet.
That's why the planet is so important, because souls are being harvested.
Just like heads of grain or wheat, and all the traff and the rest of the stalks go wheat.
The gardener harvests the grain head, the flower.
art bell
You're giving me a lot to think about.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, this is Patty from Burnsville, Minnesota.
Hi, Patty.
Hi, and I've been fascinated with Major Ed Dames ever since I saw a program on TV with Ingle Swan.
And it was kind of an introduction to me into remote viewing.
ed dames
Was that the We Are X-Files on the Discovery Channel?
unidentified
It could have been on the Discovery Channel, one of the cable channels, but I don't remember what because it's been a couple years now since I saw it.
But Ingo Swan was pretty much the main narrator.
I did see you on the program, if I remember right.
ed dames
Ingo Swann is the Wright Brothers of Remote Feeling.
He is the father of remote feeling.
He was my teacher.
unidentified
And just fascinated.
Anyway, I have, I'm kind of dumbfounded here, but one of my questions was I wrote down as far as getting your tapes.
For a person like myself, I'm telepathic.
I have certain psychic abilities, that type of thing.
What would be, you know, always in mind like for the good of, you know, doing something, but what would be a practical purpose for me?
You know, I'm fascinated by the whole thing and would love to learn it.
art bell
In other words, what is the practical use of remote viewing?
unidentified
Right.
For just purpose.
art bell
That's a good straight out question.
Ed.
What is the practical use?
You know, for the average person out there, not the person who wants to learn where the safe places might be if catastrophic events occur or what those events are, but somebody who wants to use remote viewing just for practical reasons in their life.
ed dames
There are a number of practical reasons, but the best way to use it is to look at your own life.
What you do is you set a problem up, and we teach this.
To set a problem up, to look at what we call an optimum trajectory for your own life, where you should be living, who you should be with as a mate, if anyone, what you should be doing as a livelihood, those kinds of things, because that eventuates in greater degree of fulfillment and happiness.
And let's not kid ourselves, that's what it's all about.
Everybody wants to be happy.
That's what I use remote viewing for.
It doesn't mean you're going to be 100% happy or fulfilled, but you're going to be a whole lot more so than if you weren't equipped or armed with that kind of knowledge.
It's coming from a universal mind, what we call the matrix.
And that's why the tool can be so very powerful.
art bell
You are about to get married.
unidentified
I am.
art bell
Would you or are you tempted to, or do you think it would be impossible for you to remote view the prospects of your own marriage?
ed dames
Yes, I could do that.
I could do that effectively, but I would not want to do it.
I just, I'm someone who doesn't want to know everything that's coming.
I'd rather just live day to day, the best that I can.
And because these cuts some things in life may be stepping stones to growth, to better knowledge, to become for character building.
There may be pain involved that in the end there's a blessing in disguise because it's character building in nature.
So I know who wants to know everything?
It takes all the fun out of life anyway.
art bell
To hear Ed Dame say that is quite a surprise.
This is from Paula Marie in Kansas City, and she's dead right.
She says, Art, the reason Nostradamus experts say July through September is because the actual origin of the words of the famous quatrain are Sept Moa, which can be interpreted as the seventh month or month of September, or because Nostradamus wrote sort of in riddles, it could be a clever way of indicating the time period of July through September.
You agree with that, Ed?
ed dames
I don't know if I agree with it.
I've heard this time and again, but again, I hark back to my idea of this soundbite mentality, that it makes it difficult when you attempt to describe technical things in layman's terms because selective listening is involved.
art bell
Well, selective listening is what I get here on the radio.
People say, you said the following will occur in July.
Well, you didn't say that.
You said you remote-viewed that quatrain of Nostradamus.
ed dames
We were looking through the eyes, figuratively speaking, of Nostradamus to see what he was looking at when he described, in those terms that were translated into English, as the king of terror.
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
But you understand what I mean when I say selective listeners, yes.
ed dames
Yes, certainly do.
art bell
All right, west of the Rockies.
You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
ed dames
Hi.
unidentified
Good morning.
This is Jan in Port Angeles, Washington, which is about 100 miles north or west of Seattle.
Hi, Jan.
And I'm wondering, we have plenty of water here, like we had the Olympic rainforest right next to us, but is this not a good place because of the volcano, Mount Rainier, Mount Baker and all that?
I have two questions.
That was a question.
ed dames
Yeah, we believe that the next volcanic eruption in North America, and we've stated this about two and a half years, would be around the Mono Lake area.
And the size we did not determine, so it could be small.
unidentified
I don't know where Mono Lake is.
ed dames
It's down in California.
unidentified
Oh, oh, so I have a little time here, right?
ed dames
I would assume.
unidentified
Okay.
My next question is in regard to the ergot that you were talking about in last week.
ed dames
What about the purporea?
unidentified
Pardon me?
ed dames
Holy fungus.
unidentified
You mentioned certain things like you said grasses, and I see you said wheat, you said, I think you said corn.
ed dames
Maize.
unidentified
Huh?
ed dames
Maize, sorghum, wheat.
I don't know about corn.
unidentified
Okay, then my question is if I'm going to, let's say, move to the western area in Montana in Glacier National Park and I want to grow some foods, which ones can I safely grow that are not going to be affected by this?
Things that are underground, like potatoes and onions?
ed dames
Well, anything that ergot doesn't attack.
I mean, ergot, you know, people, agriculturalists don't want you to know that the African species of ergot have already infiltrated into Texas.
unidentified
Right.
ed dames
Pretty quiet.
So, you know.
unidentified
But plants, wouldn't it affect?
ed dames
Are you on the internet?
unidentified
No.
ed dames
Okay.
Go to the library and just look up a mold and that particular fungus, an ergot, and it'll show you.
It'll give you pictures of what it affects.
unidentified
Don't raise the actual name that I would look for of the mold.
What's the name of it?
ed dames
Ergot.
E-R-G-O.
unidentified
Oh, that's just it.
Just look under ergot?
Yes.
art bell
All right, we're going to have to go, dear.
unidentified
Okay, thank you.
art bell
Thank you very much for the call.
Ed, hold on.
We're at the top of another hour with one more to go.
My guest is Major Ed Dames, Sitex Major Ed Dames.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified
Coast AM.
Coast AM.
From the kingdom of Nye, this is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the premier radio network.
It makes me feel as tired, but still goodbye If I think about it, I won't cry.
If all the days, if the kids can come, the way it is.
art bell
Those words never fail to get to me.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm R. Bell.
Major Ed Thanes is my guest.
All right.
Well, I can't resist.
This is from Stephen in British Columbia, Ed.
And he asks, Ed says he is not a prophet.
so that then mean that site tech is a non profit organization uh...
ed dames
No, we do have one free thing, and that's to U.S. high schools.
Operation Guiding Light, I've mentioned this before.
Our company provides to high schools all librarians have to do is send us a request on the school letterhead, and we provide a copy of our entire tape set to U.S. high schools.
We did this to Columbine High and we've continued this.
art bell
I am aware you've been doing that in the background.
I know that, yes.
Art, I've been waiting for this one.
You're going to love this one.
It's Andy in Willets, California.
I am shocked.
Ed Dames going to sell his remote viewing ideas to China?
As an ex-U.S.
military man, Ed is doing something a traitor would do.
Sell out Andy in Willets.
ed dames
Well, if you look through time like I do, and the Chinese are running things, then what's the difference?
No, actually, I'm not selling out anything.
I'm lecturing at the beginning at Peking University and the Nanking University.
And I speak Chinese, as some of your listeners know.
art bell
Well, that's right.
You do speak Chinese, don't you?
ed dames
Yes, I do.
art bell
I had completely forgotten that.
Why did you learn Chinese, Ed?
ed dames
Well, my sons are half Chinese, both of them.
I lived in China for many years, and I'm what the Chinese people call an egg, yellow on the inside and white on the outside.
I've been immersed in the culture and the language for so long that it's second nature.
art bell
You're an egg, all right.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
East of the Egg.
Bad egg.
art bell
East of the Rockings, you're on the air with bad egg Ed.
unidentified
Hi, Art and Ed.
I take exception to his statement about the Antichrist being born just a year or so ago.
I am the Antichrist, and I was born 4-11-40.
art bell
That's the kindest thing I can say to you right now, sir.
unidentified
The whole earth faces total extinction, Hart.
The whole earth.
art bell
But otherwise it's going to be okay, right?
unidentified
If certain things aren't done by certain dates, the whole earth is going to go to extinction, with the exception of a chosen few that will be taken.
art bell
All right.
Well, Ed, you know, I don't know what to say about that, man, or anything.
ed dames
But you're sure.
art bell
That's right.
Next call.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
art bell
You are not the anti-Christist, are you?
unidentified
Absolutely not.
I'm just afraid to ask that question that way after that last caller.
art bell
That's all right.
unidentified
I believe Ed is correct in that a mother and child have to present themselves.
I know you've seen the Seven Seal and have followed that movie as it is stated in there.
And I think Ed is right on with his analysis.
My question being, have you ever considered getting a volunteer person to have that child?
art bell
Ed?
ed dames
No.
Because I appreciate the meaning.
It's just a simple meaning.
It's just a simple act that means we understand what the baseline is, the start point.
The love between the bond between the mother and child is the basis for humanity.
And I mean humanity.
We're becoming inhuman.
And that's all.
unidentified
But you seem to be having a problem getting a woman to be willing to do this.
ed dames
Well, actually, no.
There's a whole lot of volunteers.
The problem is with the fears on the part of the people that own and manage the ranch.
art bell
You know what, ma'am?
I can tell you that Ed is right because after we did the last show, I thought it was absolutely remarkable.
In fact, I'm still considering it.
I had so many faxes and emails from mothers who wanted to volunteer themselves and their infants in this experiment.
unidentified
That's why I was calling.
art bell
Well, there you are.
But the people who are involved in it, doing the research at NIDS and the ranch, are not prepared to take the responsibility that obviously they would incur even with a volunteer.
They're very and properly so concerned about that responsibility.
So it doesn't matter how many volunteer.
I don't think that at this time they're prepared to assume that liability.
unidentified
Because I'd be willing to sign a waiver of liability because it has to be an act of faith.
art bell
Yes.
You are right.
You are correct.
What you just said is exactly right, as Ed said.
Yes.
unidentified
And if you have the faith, you're not worried about it.
ed dames
You're preaching to the choir.
unidentified
How do we make this a reality is what I'm saying.
ed dames
You've got to ask the lawyers.
art bell
Ask the lawyers.
unidentified
Could you find out if they'd be willing to accept a waiver?
art bell
You call a lawyer and let us know what he says.
unidentified
Well, it would have to be the lawyer for the ranch.
art bell
Well, my guess is no way in hell.
Knowing what I know about lawyers, they are exceptionally cautious people.
And when you go to them, they will nearly always advise you to do the most cautious, least likely to get you in trouble kind of thing.
ed dames
Now, there are other symbols that could probably be used, but I don't know of them right now.
There may be other ways of us feeding back our understanding of who these are, of what these visitors are, and how we choose to initiate contact that's acceptable to them.
But that's the only one that I've rolled across.
art bell
Did you ever get to see the seventh sign?
I think you talked about it.
ed dames
I have not sent a thank you to someone who sent that to me in California.
I've still got his name in my email, but I want to say thank you.
Somebody did send it soon and I did get a chance to watch it.
art bell
Oh, you have watched it.
ed dames
Someone sent that to me after our last show, yes.
art bell
The ending of that movie must have struck you very strongly.
ed dames
Nothing strikes me strongly anymore in movies because they're just movies.
art bell
Just movies, but.
ed dames
But it was very interesting.
art bell
Very interesting.
It was the world saved by a mother without hesitation willing to give her life for her child.
That simple.
That's a strong, strong symbol.
It's a kind of symbol.
ed dames
It's again the basis, the start point for humanity.
It all starts right there.
It's the start point.
It's square one.
art bell
I'm so glad you got to see that.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, I have two questions for you.
art bell
All right, you're going to have to yell at us, sir.
You're not loud.
Where are you?
unidentified
A caller from Illinois.
Okay.
My first question is, have you used your remote viewing strategies to get an idea of what UFOs really are?
And the second thing I'd like to mention along those lines is there's a little known law that's actually on the books at NASA, Extraterrestrial Exposure Law, Title 14, Section 1211, Code of Federal Regulations, adopted 16 June 1969.
This has to do with any exposure to aliens, you're automatically a criminal and can be held and $5,000 fine and the whole thing.
Cuff me.
Cuff me.
ed dames
Take me away.
I'm aware of the law.
Many people are.
16 years of using remote viewing, both coordinate remote viewing on the part of the military team, and technical remote viewing, problem-solving tool, higher, more powerful tool of looking at various and sundry different phenomena, including abduction phenomena.
unidentified
Yes.
ed dames
Spent a lot of time doing that.
art bell
Sir, I have a question for you.
If you were to be the first human contacted by another race who appeared to be coming to you in peace, wanting contact, would you recall this law that you just spoke about and run away, or would you exceed the speed limit and say hello?
unidentified
The only reason I pointed the law out, I'd like to say that.
I'm not sure what I would do.
I couldn't say, honestly.
art bell
I mean, you really wouldn't say, hey, sucker, this is against the law.
I'm out of here, would you?
unidentified
I don't know.
You might, huh?
I'm not sure.
I really couldn't say.
ed dames
The reason I pointed it out to missionary positions, too.
unidentified
It's actually a law in the books, and yet the government denies it, you know.
art bell
Well, it is a law in the books, as a matter of fact.
I'm surprised that he would give us that answer, but maybe that's why they're not here yet.
Because of answers like that.
All right.
ed dames
Well, we're treated like children because we act like children.
We just don't have the wisdom threshold to punch through.
We've almost been there a couple of times, but and you know, there may be a big payoff.
There may be a really big payoff, especially at this critical juncture in humanity, by achieving contact.
So if we relegate it to the realm of Hollywood, I think we really need to put more thought and wisdom into this, I think, Art.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Wild Guard Line, you're on the air with the egg.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hello, Art.
Hello, Ed.
Hi.
Yeah, I'm in the middle of Kansas, and I'm laying in a lawn chair looking up at the sky, and the meteor shower is just awesome.
I mean, they're streaking across the sky.
It's pretty cool.
And I was watching up in the sky, and this triangular object, it had, I mean, I couldn't see through it, I couldn't see the stars through it, but it looked like three stars in a perfect triangle ratio, just slowly moving across the sky.
I thought I was seeing things, but it just moved slowly, and it didn't look like airplane lights.
They weren't blinking or anything.
It just looked like stars, three stars in a perfect triangle, just moving across the sky.
art bell
Welcome to the club.
ed dames
Well, see, people who are trained in remote viewing, technical remote viewers, what they would do is take that particular incident, they learn how to target that specifically and turn their attention to it, and they are able to determine what that is, what it is, its origin, those kinds of things.
Is it, let's say, an artifact of something else?
Is it a solid object?
Is it a projection of some type?
All those kinds of things are determinable using these techniques.
art bell
Well, what have you thus far determined with regard to the objects that flip about in our skies the way they do?
ed dames
There's a number of different objects, all representative of different technologies.
Some of them are ours, some of them are somebody else's, and some of them belong to two earthlings in the future.
unidentified
They're time travelers.
art bell
Time travelers.
ed dames
Back and time, back and forth.
art bell
Time machines.
Indeed.
East of the Rockies, you're on air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
ed dames
Good morning, you men.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
This is Gordon in Chattanooga, Tennessee, Art.
Hey, Gordon.
I have two questions, if I might, for Ed.
You might?
I'd like, if you can speak on this, the idea that it's possible that there is a race of people from the lower fourth dimension that have been here for hundreds of years.
They're able to occupy human bodies under certain circumstances, and they've perpetuated bloodline through hundreds or maybe thousands of years, and they're reptilian-looking.
Are you familiar with that scenario at all?
ed dames
Familiar with this scenario?
It's false, as far as I'm concerned.
unidentified
That is false?
Totally false.
All right.
My second question is this.
A person I heard about recently working out with S. Rand, an old friend, and they spent a week together just fishing and stuff.
And he found out his friend had learned to astrally project.
And during their visit, he said, why don't you go in Cheyenne Mountain one night?
I'm a little interested in what's in there.
And his friend reported to him a few days later that he did enter through the mountain down a hallway.
And at some point, he was frozen.
He was up by the ceiling, he said.
Couldn't move.
These lights and audible alarms went off.
A couple of security-looking people with some type of odd-by weapon, he said, came.
ed dames
Well, no, take it for me.
There's no detector for an asteroid projection.
Astro projection is very real.
When it happens, and again, speaking from experience, you can feel as if you are trapped behind enemy lines.
I have felt that in Droninsky Square, the KGB headquarters, the Council of Ministers building, when it happens to you and you break free and that happens and you're experiencing either an altered state or astral travel, you panic because you don't have a badge, you don't speak Russian, you're not supposed to be there.
It feels like it's real.
That's real.
unidentified
But you create that in your own mind?
ed dames
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
It's a real experience.
A very real experience.
You're actually sharing that particular reality, that pattern of information, and you become part of that event.
For instance, your friend, if he had really effectively astral traveled to Cheyenne Mountain, would become part of that moment in time of Cheyenne Mountain so that I, as a technical remote viewer, remote viewing Cheyenne Mountain at that specific time, would detect this other presence and be able to track it back to your friend lying in a bed, sitting in a chair or something else like that, knowing that there's a presence there that is a person who's out of body.
unidentified
But there's no detection stuff that...
You actually project.
You won't be detected.
ed dames
No, no, there's no...
I could know.
unidentified
All right, I'm a yogi, and I've had experience with that.
I just wondered about, you know, it's probably just a rumor.
Well, I really enjoy your show very much.
art bell
Thank you, sir, and have a very, very good morning.
What's left of it, that is.
Listen, everybody, we are now in the beginning hour between now and dawn, wherever you are, of being able to see probably the best part of the meteor shower, though even the next few days will be interesting.
If you have an opportunity to get outside and spend a few minutes looking at the sky, you'll get a real treat.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Hi.
unidentified
Yes, this is Mike.
I'm calling from Seattle.
I listen on Como 1000 Talk Radio.
art bell
The big one in Seattle, yes, sir.
unidentified
That's right.
And I'm kind of curious.
I had listened to the previous show where you had asked Ed Dames about the contrails.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And when he had mentioned that at that time that he couldn't reveal, I just heard for the first time you said there was four different types.
art bell
Correct.
unidentified
And he couldn't reveal the fourth type.
I'm wondering, is it something from his military days that he has signed something that he can't reveal it because of that?
art bell
Or is it because of collected remote viewing data that would be giving away a classified program?
And the answer is both?
ed dames
Both, yes.
I was involved in several programs and one of them was
art bell
Well, if you were to say it right now, sir, he wouldn't be able to confirm it or deny it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, would you mind if I venture a guess?
art bell
No, no, you go ahead and speculate away.
unidentified
Okay, well, I believe that the fourth type is some type of chemical that they can put in the air, that if there is a release of an airborne virus or even possibly radiation, that this is meant to pull it down and keep it localized instead of letting it spread.
art bell
All right.
Well, that's your guess.
I'll give you my guess.
I think we're all being inoculated without our knowledge.
But that's your guess.
That's my guess.
unidentified
And I guess Ed doesn't fall from.
art bell
Cool.
At least you gave us that much.
All right, Ed.
Hold on.
That was my best shot, too, and I'm wrong.
Oh well, from the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM where anything, and I mean anything, can happen.
unidentified
Well, I think it's time to generate, to realize just what I have found.
I have to stand on that path of what I am.
Oh, please, you need them.
Thank you.
Send your camel to bed.
Shadows faint in our faces.
Tracing the romance in our head.
Heavens holding our hands.
Shadows just for us.
Let's sip off to a safe, breathe, blue.
Kick up a little dust.
Can't step off this.
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This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nigh.
art bell
Ah, that's the place all right.
The high desert.
And Major Ed Dames, high-text Major Ed Dames, is my guest.
And we will once again tell you how to get the remote viewing videotapes to teach you to do precisely what Ed does in a moment.
So get paper and pencil handy, please.
I think somebody just got a free commercial, but I guess that's all right.
And whenever I hear that, it's my own commercial.
I think of a doctor looking at somebody and saying, my God, man, that thing's the size of a basketball.
Hey, listen, tomorrow night, Philip Clark is going to be my guest host.
And you'll know Philip Clark by his voice.
Philip Clark has probably done most of the movie trailers.
You know, that big, deep voice that invites you to go back into the water with the sharks or whatever?
That's Philip Clark.
And he'll be here tomorrow night.
His guest will be a main guest, Tom Schroeder, who wrote a book called The Scientific Evidence for Past Lives.
And then Sunday on Dreamland, it will be Whitley Streeber hosting with the usual cast of characters, including Linda.
And I'm not sure where she'll be by then.
Back now to Major Ed Dames.
And Major, I promised everybody you'd give out the numbers.
We'd give out the numbers one more time for the TRV tapes, tape number one or the whole batch.
There are two phone numbers.
What are they?
ed dames
1-888-878-0333.
unidentified
Or?
ed dames
1-877-878-1777.
they can visit our website at www.scitech.net or hit it through via your site through Keith's site and get all the information they need on technical remote viewing and on background.
art bell
Have you, out of curiosity, Have you ever TRV'd the future of TRV?
ed dames
Yes.
art bell
You're kidding.
ed dames
No.
No, no, we have.
And it isn't TRV anymore.
It's something else.
And I'm still working on that something else.
Technical remote viewing it's still, my philosophy is if it's not broken, don't fix it.
It works, but I still think there are parts of it that are primitive, but there's nothing like it.
At any rate, there is something in the future that is better.
And I'm working on that.
In terms of human potential, we can use this tool to look at human potential.
I'm discovering things that are latent in the human body that have never been switched on and could be switched on.
And that's what I'm working on now in my laboratory.
art bell
Oh, I believe that.
ed dames
Very interesting thing.
Very interesting indeed.
I'll give you a hint.
There are certain frequencies of light that when flashed the right way at the right densities on a naked human body can affect some changes that are unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable.
For instance, DNA repair, immediate DNA repair, melanomas, those kinds of things.
And it's my hope that by keeping somebody in that light, a human, I'll be working with animals, at first lab animals, and plants, that we can control the HIV virus, not kill the virus itself, but boost the immune system to the point where the human immunodeficiency virus cannot make any more inroads.
We can stay the course of the disease.
So that's one of my hopes.
art bell
That actually is an approach I've heard from several quarters lately, that the immune system itself might be the key.
Rather than trying to defeat the virus, build the immune system.
ed dames
Yes, I believe that that.
I absolutely believe that.
And my approach is a biophysical approach rather than a pharmacological approach, using biophysics to affect that.
And it looks really good, Art.
Looks very, very good.
art bell
You never fail to amaze me.
Never, never, never.
Every program.
ed dames
That's a worthwhile project.
art bell
Yeah, it is.
First time caller line, you're on the air with a major at Dames.
ed dames
Yeah, this is Nick from Oregon.
art bell
Nick, you're going to have to yell.
You're not loud.
ed dames
This is Nick from Oregon.
unidentified
Right.
My question to Mr. Dames is, how far into the future has he remote viewed anything?
art bell
All right.
How far into the future have you observed an event?
I know that is rough to, timelines are hard, but what do you think?
ed dames
I would say about my guess is from 20 to 40 years from now when we have this entirely parched Earth scenario, just bleak to barren Earth for most parts of the planet.
And who wants to go past that?
But there is something that happens in this timeline where there does appear to be, where these things that are flying around in the sky, I use flying loosely of course, do appear to approach Earth and finally make contact.
But it appears that we have to wait for these very serious catastrophes to occur prior to having real contact with an extraterrestrial race.
art bell
All right.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Hi.
Yes.
All right, Belle.
Eight Dames.
Yes, this is Tim in a Big Truck Crossing America here.
And I've got a two-part question for you.
The first part I want to know what pertains to the biblical sense as the like the turn your radio off altogether.
Okay, sorry, Art.
art bell
It will confuse you.
unidentified
Now that they said that the earth was flooded and then life was deceased, except for known animals.
And then the prophecy of the Bible said that the earth would be burnt.
Would that be like a solar flare or something that they were expecting of something like that?
art bell
We think so.
unidentified
Okay.
And my second question is, have you done hypnotic states as far as what you're doing?
ed dames
In the early days in the military team, when I ran the research and development for the military team, we used everything to try to augment and enhance what we could do.
Everything you could think of, housing, you name it, including hypnagogic states.
And what we've got now is the best that we can do, technical remote viewing.
My company owns it.
art bell
That's remarkable.
So you even tried hypnosis?
ed dames
We tried everything that you could imagine.
art bell
Were there any other things that showed significant promise aside from what you ended up with?
ed dames
There was, yes, psychokinesis, the so-called size switch.
We were able to finally get a handle on mentally affecting certain systems at a distance, but the money went into intelligence collection rather than that.
And so that knowledge exists, but engineering doesn't yet.
art bell
Where do you think that would have gone if it had been financed and followed?
ed dames
God only knows.
It's a pretty awesome thing.
It's pretty awesome.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
This is Kevin in Michigan.
And I'd appreciate it if you all give me the answer over the phone because all my stations have faded away.
All right.
I was wondering why you selected Glacier Park other than water.
ed dames
Only one other reason, but water was fresh, clean, ample supplies of water, fish lake, ample supplies of water, and glaciers when they melt, because they'll be melting.
Because it's relatively isolated from large population centers.
If there's a mad match scenario and people begin to leave the cities, they won't travel that far.
And isolated communities of relatively like-minded people with a lot of fresh water, that's the way to go.
unidentified
And do you have a newsletter?
ed dames
No.
No, we don't have a newsletter.
unidentified
No similar form of information?
ed dames
Yes, we have a similar form.
unidentified
It's generally the Art Bell Show.
ed dames
The company is capacity constrained, so we don't have a lot of time.
art bell
Well, now wait a minute.
That and the website?
ed dames
Yes, we have our website also.
But I teach primarily on the website.
So some of our special projects are up there, but mostly our advanced learning techniques.
And we teach for free.
People who buy our tapes, the advanced skills are there, and there's no charge for that.
I continuously teach there.
unidentified
I appreciate you coming on the show.
art bell
All right, sir.
Thank you very much for the call.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
ed dames
Hi.
unidentified
Yes, I'm in Las Vegas.
I'd like to ask him about the chemtrails.
All right.
Is there any connection between the chemtrails and extraterrestrials?
ed dames
No.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Also, about remote viewing.
Would any kind of drugs help a person to do it easier?
ed dames
No.
They are absolutely detrimental to the process.
Anything that degrades your attention, anything that degrades that at all will be detrimental to the process.
unidentified
And since there are possibly some dangers to remote viewing, wouldn't the government have to make some new laws in the future?
ed dames
There's no way to stop this.
It's a world without secrets.
The future is a world without secrets.
unidentified
All right, that's all.
Thanks, Art.
art bell
That's enough.
It's hard to imagine, Ed, a world without secrets.
ed dames
Even coming from paradigms like we did.
No, we wouldn't have started out without any secrets.
It would have been one thing.
But we started out the other way.
unidentified
Now it's going to be harder to make the transition.
art bell
I can't imagine a world without secrets.
ed dames
You could if you really put a lot of work into it.
unidentified
But then ethics would change.
ed dames
It would be much more difficult to lie.
art bell
Everybody.
ed dames
To hide plutonium shipments in South Africa or Israel, those kinds of things.
art bell
I wonder if we could fathom if we could even handle right now a world without secrets, because a lot of the secrets are pretty scary stuff.
And if they were known generally, it might suddenly be the Mad Max thing we talk about.
ed dames
I think we're going to be overcome by events.
I don't think we have to worry about jumping into a world without secrets too soon.
We're going to have too much to worry about right away.
art bell
That's good, I guess, or not.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed James.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hi, Ed.
How are you?
Hello?
Yes?
Okay.
Yeah, I had a question for Ed, and it's about this kill shot.
And you keep referring to it again and again, and it sounds like it's a really significant event.
Is it something that's happening all at once, or is it over a period of time?
And Kill Shot is just sort of a generator of this.
art bell
And then to add to that, a lot of people ask, well, if it's going to be a singular event, then what part of the Earth will it strike?
Because the part of the Earth that is facing toward the Sun at the time it occurs would be the part of the Earth affected.
Right, Ed?
unidentified
Well, I guess of a wider window.
I mean, you're talking about climate change, developing new methods of agriculture and all these things.
I presume that what you mean is that there will be a solar event.
It will happen all at one time, but the consequences of that will remain, and people who are left will be living in these conditions, and it will be pretty miserable, I guess.
So I just want to understand about the kill shot, though.
Like, it's going to happen, and people are going to die right at that time as well?
art bell
Ed?
ed dames
We think so.
We're not sure.
All we know is that these effects that are so catastrophic is our own sun.
Our star, the sun, is going to affect this.
And it is not that far away, and it may be occurring now.
So we're not sure if it's both cumulative and iterative, or if it's just one discrete event.
All that we know is it kills people and a lot of people, and it is concomitant with an extremely rapid rise in bacterial diseases.
We know this for certain.
art bell
Okay.
Wildcard line.
ed dames
Linear water.
unidentified
That's all I can say.
art bell
Water, water, line.
unidentified
Ample supplies of fresh water.
art bell
That comes through loud and clear.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
unidentified
Yeah, good morning, Art.
This is Dan in Virginia.
art bell
Yes, Dan.
unidentified
I'd like to make a suggestion to Ed if he could remote view, pick out a particular spectacular crop circle that's been showing up and see what kind of information that's being sent to us through these various crop circles.
art bell
All right, but he'll tell you about crop circles.
Now, I don't think that Ed regards crop circles as containing specific information, or maybe you do, but I remember you calling them markers.
ed dames
They're registration marks.
They're not transmitting information to us.
They're registration marks.
They're artistic in nature, but they're meant to mark a specific day and time for agencies that are traveling back and forth in time.
And the reason that you see more these days is because there's something about to happen.
And there's a lot more attention on this era in time.
And so there's a lot more travelers that need to know where they are day to day.
art bell
So as we and that's interesting because crop circles have become by the year ed, they've become more complex.
There's no question about it.
And more frequent.
ed dames
Correct.
They're purposely laid in ephemeral media so that they only last, they're only fresh for one day.
And agencies that travel in time who need to fine-tune where they are in time, what day, because they'll move back to that time period again and again, perhaps, or allow somebody else to go to that specific day.
art bell
In other words, even though it would be destroyed, a week later, it would not matter because it would exist freshly and vividly on the day that it was created.
ed dames
That's right.
That's why it's used as a registration mark.
So if you wanted to guide somebody, say, to a specific area and a specific day, you look in a registry, a central registry for this complex mark.
Now you know where you are in time, and then you can use that to register to vector a place on Earth.
There's more of these so-called circles at this juncture because there's so much happening in this era.
There's a lot of scrutiny here in this time period by others.
art bell
I'm so glad you explained that.
I finally get it.
I was never exactly quite sure what you meant by registration marks in time.
And now all of a sudden the light bulb went off and I get it.
ed dames
Yeah, they're beacons.
They're not messages to me.
art bell
Well, listen, Ed, we've done it again.
ed dames
I'll call you from China, Art.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
The next time I hear from you, it'll be China?
ed dames
It will be.
unidentified
Wow.
ed dames
I'll give you the China syndrome perspective.
art bell
Ed, the very best of luck to you in your coming marriage and your trip to China until we meet again, my friend.
ed dames
It's been a pleasure, Art.
And good night to all your listeners.
art bell
Good night, Ed.
And for all of you out there, it is always a pleasure.
Thank you all, and I'll see you back again Tuesday evening.
Don't forget, Thursday evening, Gary North is going to be here.
That's another one you want to mark on your calendar from the high desert.
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