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June 16, 1999 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Stewart Best - Comet Lee. Goodbye Terence McKenna
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From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be, and welcome to another edition of the best in live overnight talk radio, by far the largest.
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And Terrence has been through some pretty serious tribulations of late.
As you know, Keith Rowland, my webmaster, is in the hospital.
Went to the hospital at about 8 o'clock last night with a heart problem.
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Scroll down to where it says, to the lawsuit section, where it says something like Art Bell files a $60 million lawsuit.
Go in there, and then scroll down to the bottom where it says Shady Pines.
Click on Shady Pines, and there will be information there about my guest tonight, As well as the latest on Keith Rowland.
And we'll have more to say about that in the next hour.
Terrence McKenna is... What is Terrence?
He's a philosopher, I guess.
He's probably the man who inherited the mantle from Tim Leary.
He's in Hawaii.
And I'm going to let him tell you the way what has happened to him lately has occurred chronologically.
Terrence, my friend, welcome back.
It's a pleasure to talk to you, Art.
It's a real pleasure to talk to you.
It's good to hear your voice.
Terrence, you were just humming along in life.
Of course, I had interviewed you not that long ago.
We had done a full four-hour interview, I think.
You were sort of humming along in life.
One day here recently, without a hitch, you were feeling fine, weren't you?
I had had four days of headaches that I thought were flu, and I had a tour on the mainland.
I'd heard about a flu that was preceded by headaches.
So you thought you had the flu?
I thought I had the flu.
After four days of headaches, I went into the bathroom and I had a massive brain seizure, which I knew nothing about.
My partner, Christy, wrestled me into our truck.
Got me down to the local hospital.
They did a CAT scan.
Within 40 minutes, they could see a brain tumor the size of a quail egg on the right side.
They took one look and Air Medical evacuated me to Honolulu.
Alright, this is a tumor in your frontal lobe region?
That's right.
As far as I can tell, about Three inches behind the eyes.
And once in Honolulu, they did what they call a stereotactic gassé, where they basically bolt a metal frame to your head and drill in to get a piece of this thing.
Oh my God!
And the doctors looked at it and the diagnosis was glioblastoma metaforma, stage four.
What this thing is, is the fastest moving brain tumor known to human medicine.
Stage four, which is an advanced stage.
Immediately, they scheduled a procedure called the Gamma Knife, which can only be done in a few hundred places around the world.
Like nuclear acupuncture, 201 sources of cobalt-60 focused on this thing to burn it to a crisp, and they told me flat out, there's a 1 in 10 chance you won't live through this procedure.
Through the gamma knife?
Yes.
A 1 in 10 chance?
Yes.
Well, let's back up a little bit.
Before you had the gamma knife, obviously, the doctor sat you down, and today, Terrence, Here's where you are.
Here are your options.
Here's your prognosis.
What did they tell you before you even made a decision about a treatment?
I said, untreated, where are we headed?
He said, you'll be dead in 30 days, no question about it.
30 days?
30 days.
Looking at that, I had friends who flew in from London, my brother came from Minnesota, friends came from California.
We had enough brain power in the room to match the Nobel Prize Committee.
We all looked at this, and the Gamma Knife thing seemed to be the way to go.
Well, yesterday it was two weeks.
Since the Gamma Knife?
They did it.
My understanding is that the Gamma Knife took about 90% of the tumor and apparently destroyed it or started it toward destruction.
Is that about right?
That's what they believe.
90 to 95%.
The trick is these tumors have fractal boundaries.
They have messy boundaries.
Without follow-up radiation and chemotherapy, the doctors here said it will return within weeks and you'll be back where you started from.
So we spent a very difficult 10 days looking at every cancer therapy alternative and otherwise in the world, trying to sort the real stuff from the surreal stuff.
And basically what we came down to is what scientific medicine can do for you is something like the gamma knife or a much scarier operation called a craniotomy where they actually take off the top of your head and go in for this thing with knives followed by the radiation treatment and then they pat you on the back and send you home and Well, the other option, the surgical option, what did they tell you about that?
I mean, they obviously had to tell you something so you could make an informed choice.
They said it was so dangerous and that death was so likely that they didn't want to do it unless there was an absolute crisis.
Well, 30 days to live is pretty much of an absolute crisis.
Yes, so they hold up the gamma knife as a substitute for the craniotomy.
And I must say, after the gamma knife, I walked out of there.
So in other words, it's a walk-in procedure.
You lie down, they bombard you with these gamma rays that are so precise that they can go to the area of the tumor, passing through the outside of your head and some portion of your brain or
whatever and doing the cutting or the burning or the destroying just at
the tumor sign.
That's how they see it. That's what they believe. That's incredible. Well,
let's hope they know what they're doing.
Well, you're talking to me.
Well, I told them through it, and they didn't fully anesthetize me.
me. It was local anesthetics so I was with them all the way and I said, guys, let's keep
the oops factor to a minimum here.
Well, they tell you.
They say, you know, the possible, the scary part of this is if we hit the motor strip, you're paralyzed.
If we hit the optic nerve, you're blind.
So, yes, it's a tight space in there.
And I now, after two weeks having had this thing, I keep looking into my mind, trying to see what's missing, what's different.
My son, Finn, was here and at one point with the surgeon, he turned to him and he said, so this tumor, it's thinking?
And the doc thought a while and then he said, well, yes, it's thinking about something.
I'm trying to figure out what it was thinking about that I'm not thinking about anymore.
In other words, he was suggesting the tumor The out of control of the cancer was actually part of your brain?
I mean, was that a joke?
Do the cells actually, when they're there, function as the brain functions in some way?
Is that what you're saying?
Well, apparently so.
In other words, the doctors say it had to have been there a year or 18 months.
In that year and 18 months, I've noticed I got some bifocals.
I noticed I was a little more forgetful, but I certainly didn't feel like somebody who was at risk for brain seizure.
The seizure itself, Terrence, did you just pass out?
Were you in convulsions?
What happened?
Well, what I had heard about this flu was that you had bad headaches and then you would vomit and so the fourth day I was lying down with these headaches and I began to feel nauseated and I thought, aha, it's going to turn into a flu.
So I went into the bathroom and then it was, you know, and speaking as a psychedelic explorer, all hell broke loose.
Very confusing and it was confounding.
I had no idea what was happening.
I was having hallucinations.
I was not sure where I was or who I was.
I had two or three more of these seizures as Christie wrestled me down the mountain.
So in other words, in a way, you had a form of consciousness during These seizures, at least enough that you're able to remember what you're telling me right now.
There were flashes of awareness, but a very confused kind of awareness.
Here's what the real tip-off to all this was, Art.
For a month leading into these seizures, I had been having dreams that the only way I could describe them was I couldn't describe them.
They lasted hours and yet I could not describe them even to myself.
I even said to Christy and my son a few mornings before the seizure, I said, ìI think I should see a neurologist.
These dreams are so bizarre.
I canít believe that healthy people have these experiences.î Well, as most everybody in the world knows who has listened to you, you have done a lot of psychedelic drugs.
Yes.
Now, it must have occurred to you that one possibility with regard to the dreams was some sort of effect from some psychedelic drug that you have taken at some point in your life.
Did that one roll through your mind?
It did.
It was like a tryptamine, but it was not like DMT, which is what I know best.
But the quality of being indescribable and the quality of being visual Were things I could only associate with psychedelics.
Once I got over here to Honolulu and we were facing these doctors, I said to them, I said, you know, if you want to guilt trip me, I have a history of psychedelic and recreational drugs.
And they just waved it away as preposterous and said, no, no, no.
This comes out of your genetics.
This comes out of the environment.
This is This is not about smoking dope in the evening.
Well, that just tore another question right out of my hands, and so you asked it yourself.
Oh, of course, because I knew that anybody hearing this news about me... Was going to say, ah, remember all the drugs he took?
Right.
See what happened to that guy?
Here's a bad example.
So now...
Where are you now?
In other words, now the gamma knife procedure is done, some great portion of the tumor has been destroyed, and I guess you've entered a regime, a mainstream regime, of what?
Radiation?
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You know, I don't believe that, actually.
I actually don't believe it now.
I do believe in mainstream medicine's ability to probably... I mean, the Gamma Knife, obviously, with the choice you had, there's no choice there.
I'd go for that myself.
I'd have done that.
I'd have made the same choice.
And then, we all know that there's some left of the tumor, which You don't need much.
All you need is one malignant cell left and it regrows.
You said it was the most aggressive?
Known to science.
Known to science.
Yes.
One of the godsends of this situation was that my brother, Dennis, was here.
He's a professional pharmacologist and drug designer, so he could ask the questions, ask the hard questions, really push on these guys and study the stuff on the Internet. If you have liver
problems or eye problems, straight medical science knows a great deal, but the thing about
brain tumors is that it's a total frontier and there are dozens of people out there with
machines, drugs, treatments and who knows whether this stuff works. Most of it you can't
even use inside the United States because the government won't allow it.
And of course, when people hear they're dying, and many of these people are well healed,
they will spend any amount of money, go anywhere to try and live.
So we've been looking at all this stuff and there are machines in the Dominican Republic.
There's a guy in Houston.
There's a guy at the University of Virginia.
There's a cancer clinic in Germany.
Dr. Day, there are a million different alternative treatments and there are champions for all of them who will say you must do this and you must do it right away.
Yes, and if you don't follow my advice, you're choosing grim death.
Yes, that's right.
We've got to pause here at the bottom of the hour, Terrence, but when we come back, I've got a lot of other questions for you.
In view of the best-case prognosis, six to nine months.
Now, when I said, I don't believe that, I meant it.
You see, I think there's a spiritual component that can be thrown into the mix and just knock six to nine months right in the teeth.
It can happen.
I've seen it happen.
We've done it before.
We tried it, and we'll try it again.
It's a power that the doctors don't exactly know about.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
Terrence McKenna is here and he'll be right back.
Welcome to the show. We're going to be talking about the new version of the game. It's called
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Terrence McKenna is here.
What would you do out there?
You ever think about it?
Walk into a doctor's office when you thought you had the flu
after some seizures and they sit you down and tell you you've got stage four brain cancer
and your terminal.
Have you ever thought about that?
We'll be right back.
Gather that pen and paper.
I'm going to give you an opportunity to help Terrence in two ways, spiritually and financially.
He can use both, believe me.
And there is now the Terrence McKenna Research Foundation account and I'm going to tell you about it toward the end of this particular segment.
What do you believe about the power of the mind?
What do you believe about the power of the mind?
The context in which I ask is we had millions of people concentrating white light, healing
prayer, whatever it is.
I think what we're really talking about here, Art, is the power of love.
sending it your way.
Now we did that and we're going to do it again, but I just wonder what you believe about all
this yourself.
Well, I mentioned community immunity.
I think what we're really talking about here is the power of love.
Once they pull the rug out from under you and give you a death sentence, suddenly the
lights come on and you realize that love is what it's all about.
Love is what keeps people going.
It cures diseases.
It brings children into the world.
It makes people able to die with dignity.
I think if anything can change the statistics and turn this into a happy story, it's the
community that has supported me and cares about me and affirmed the thing.
I was very attentive to the concentrated moment that you organized and sent.
While it was happening, which was just before the Gamma Knife procedure, I felt that really that's why I lived through it.
That's amazing.
You're actually the second person to make a statement like that.
Was Richard Hoagland who said he could actually feel it while it was going on?
I felt I could feel it.
I felt it as a kind of welling energy coming almost, I would say, out of the earth, but I sat with my eyes closed and it was pouring in, and then I talked to one of the big, literally the big kahuna on the big island, and he said, when you go into the Gamma Procedure, tell your body to be strong.
And when I did that, I had this same feeling that I had during the group meditation.
So it brought home to me the horror of dying alone and unloved.
And I really want to say, you know, if you think there are no heroes in this world, go to your local cancer center.
and look into the eyes of the people sitting in the waiting room. They're not worried
about Kosovo or the stock market. They are dealing with stuff so deep and beyond most
people's imagining that you just have to genuflect to their nobility.
What do you believe about us? I meant to ask you that when I say about us. We are biological
complex organisms and the big corona question is whether we are more than just that, whether
at death there is not an ending but something else, a new beginning or a continuation of
some sort obviously in your situation.
You would have been reflecting on this.
Well, I think nature doesn't build patterns as complex as ourselves simply to throw them away at the edge of the grave.
I really think that what a lifetime of psychedelic journeying has taught me is consciousness can exist outside of the body, and if it can exist for an hour or six hours, Then why would nature throw the beauty of that away?
So, this has been an emotional turmoil for me, but at my best moments, I say, foreknowledge of your own death, if that's what this is, is a kind of enlightenment.
And of course, everyone can have this enlightenment.
Well, there really are a lot of ways to look at it.
I'm going to be 54 at midnight here.
At best, if we're lucky, we have another 20 or 30 years, maybe.
really congratulations and uh...
so you know at best
uh... if we're lucky we have another and nothing goes wrong
we have another twenty thirty years maybe that's right
best case so in the cosmic sense of things
even if you were to uh...
die tomorrow it's a blink
uh... the difference between tomorrow and twenty years
cosmically is just
it's nothing it's not even considered it's not even time
as we understand it and so
it's like you'll be there tomorrow and i'll be there tomorrow
in that sense if there is a continuation of life and people who write books
and paint paintings and do what you do i think are in touch with the kind of greek notion of
immortality which is You live as long as people remember you and hold you positively in their mind.
If this is not an argument for doing good and spreading love, I don't know what is.
What has changed for you in the way you think of all of this since that moment, since the doctors told you what the prognosis was?
What has changed for you?
Well, the most startling thing is I have the idea, hallucination, notion, I'm not sure what it is, that I can walk down the street and I can tell who's living and who's dying.
I can look into people's faces and I can see who has figured out enough about the living condition to make it work for them and who is just Do you now perceive that a lot of your life energy was misdirected?
and foolishness and I see my own life and how I gave energy to certain things, not to
other things.
It's a revelation.
Do you now perceive that a lot of your life energy was misdirected?
I could have treated people better.
I could have been more compassionate, more kind, more open to people.
You and I have had many a conversation where I was knocking various ideas or systems which I felt were flaky, and maybe I still feel they're flaky.
But what I now see behind all that was the intent and the compassion, the desire to make life whatever it is.
An easier journey to whatever it sweeps us toward.
You've got some insurance.
Obviously you're facing medical bills right now that are probably like Mount Fuji.
Yes, I had medical insurance my whole life.
I paid too much and now I discover it doesn't cover drugs, it doesn't cover the evacuation flight over here.
The average bill to an insurance company for a person who dies of cancer is $350,000 and
no alternative medicine is covered, absolutely none.
My friend suggested that there be a research foundation where people could donate.
I resisted that.
I've always paid my own bills.
I've always taken care of myself and then as I got into this, I realized that the medical
system and the insurance system victimizes everyone.
So many people have sent suggestions and books and machines and names of doctors and I realized
that I'm going to need all the help from my friends I can get and if in fact I'm headed
to the great beyond, then whatever is left in this trust fund should be given to promising
forms of cancer research, drug research.
We don't know enough about cancer and it's a scandal because so many of us will come
to these places.
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Please see the complete disclaimer at https://sites.google.com.au It will go to Cancer Research of some sort.
It is the Terrence McKenna Research Foundation and you can make out a check to that, the Terrence McKenna Research Foundation.
And it'll be going to the Washington Mutual Bank.
And I actually have several pieces of information here.
I have an account number so that you could actually transit money electronically Move money into that account and that account or transit number is 3222-71627.
I'll repeat that in a moment.
You can also send it to, by mail, the Terrence McKenna Research Foundation at Box 3287, La Jolla, California, zip
code 92038.
Once again, that would be the Terrence McKenna Research Foundation account at Box 3287 in La Jolla, California.
92038.
And one more time, the routing number for any funds that you might want to send would be 3222-716-9238.
Let me say, Art, your audience may not know this, but you and I have never met, never laid eyes on each other.
We had plans.
directly as in a bank transfer and the other of course is at the address I just gave you.
Let me say, Art, your audience may not know this, but you and I have never met, never
laid eyes on each other.
We had plans.
We had plans and we may still have plans, but for you to do this for me with your audience,
I'm finding out who the real saints of this world are.
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We all have them.
There was only one perfect guy a couple thousand years ago they talk about.
Otherwise, we've all done things we're sorry for, that we feel guilt about, mistreated people.
Certainly I've done it.
But aside from that, when you review your life, Terrence, it's been a pretty good one mostly, hasn't it?
It's been a fantastic life.
I've been many times around the world.
I've written books.
I know everybody.
I've eaten in the best restaurants.
I've been in the company of beautiful women and am in the company of the most beautiful
woman I've ever known.
I'm surprised at how, I wouldn't say this is easy to take, but if somebody had described
this happening to me, I would have assumed that I would just panic and fling my mind
Instead, there's been a wonderful consolidation and appreciation, and I'm ready for whatever comes down the pike.
This has been a long, strange trip.
I want to live, but if that's not in the cards, I want to do a good job with the time left to me and learn from this experience.
When this occurred, a member of your soulmate's family called and spoke on the air a little bit and attributed a quote to you, which was that when you spoke with the doctors, Terrence, you said you would like to opt for quantity of life.
I can't believe that if I'm alive, I can't generate happiness and peace of mind out of myself, and so I don't want extreme chemotherapy.
that or was that just wrong?
No, I can't believe that if I'm alive, I can't generate happiness and peace of mind out of
myself and so I don't want extreme chemotherapy.
I don't want wild measures to prolong things.
I want simply to do a good job with this so that the entirety of my life makes sense because
I think how you die is part of how you will be remembered.
I want my ideas, my values, the books and the ideas about plants to stand the test.
a good job and walk them and uh...
and we all are in the same cameo here
will fight could almost claim fortunate position because
i know and that gives me time to uh... clean up my act
and uh... and review it down and that you should walk in front of you know a
lot of people tomorrow morning or tomorrow during the day are going to
walk in front of a car and be instantly dead without one second of thought about
anything at all.
Yes, that's what I always assumed would happen to me.
An unpleasant 15 minutes on the freeway, and then the velvet darkness.
Velvet darkness.
At one time, you really did think about the other side as a velvet darkness.
well at least the velvet curtain so really
aside from the normal regrets we all have what you have spoken about publicly
on my program what you have written about in your books you don't feel any change about any of that do you
No, I don't.
I'm amazed that I may not make it to 2012 and that I may not lift the cup to the new millennium.
no regrets. All those books, all those ideas were put forward in deepest sincerity and
nothing has changed.
What I want to do is to invite you to come back and see what I've been doing. I've been
doing a lot of research. I've been doing a lot of research on the
world of meditation.
you've got left.
That's true.
There's an awful lot of walking around talking examples of that for sure so there's always where there's life there's hope and you're obviously alive and obviously the gamma knife didn't miss because you sound like the same Terrence to me.
I love talking to you Art.
I love being on your show.
I love Knowing how many people are listening to me, and as long as I make sense, I'm happy to come on.
It's very healing and affirming.
You're doing good work.
Just keep doing it, buddy.
All right, my friend.
Thank you, and good night, Terrence.
Good night.
That's Terrence McKenna, folks.
That's Terrence.
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The Terrence McKenna Research Foundation, Box 3287, La Jolla, California, ZIP Code 92038.
So that's Terrence.
you We're going to do something more about Terrence.
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I bid you good evening or good morning, wherever you are.
I'm Art Bell.
In the last hour, you heard from Terrence McKenna.
If you listen to The Doctors, a terminal, Terrence McKenna.
But we're gonna have something to say about that.
We're going to have our say.
Terrence said a very interesting thing.
He said, at the moment you did the concentration, you could feel it.
Do you remember Richard Hoagland saying the exact same thing as we tried the experiment?
Do you remember that?
Do you remember Richard Hoagland saying, I knew it, I could feel it when it was happening, and feel it when it let up.
So I believe Even with an intractable brain tumor, that something can be done beyond the gamma knife and radiation and chemotherapy and all that he's going through right now.
And we're going to be doing that again shortly.
And when I say shortly, I mean in the next few days.
So stand by for that.
So that was Terence McKenna.
Quite a quite a remarkable man by any measure of anybody Remarkable man Now there's something else I need to talk to you about and that's Keith Rowland my webmaster Keith remains in the hospital after suffering continuing arrhythmias I've talked to Keith You know yesterday When I got off the air from the show yesterday, Keith called me and we spent, I think we spent about an hour and a half, two hours on the phone.
Keith called me at three o'clock in the morning, 3.20 or something, and we spent at least an hour and a half on the phone speaking together.
And Keith was telling me every little thing they were doing.
They had the heart monitor hooked up to him.
And he would stop and say, there's one art.
Look, now I can feel it.
There's three more, three in a row.
And he would sit there and describe to me what was going on.
And they came in and did eight EKGs, and he insisted on remaining on the phone with me.
Through EKGs, through drawing blood, through doing all the things they're doing, Of course, he's still in the hospital, will be in the hospital tomorrow as well, and we don't have answers for you yet.
It's obviously a little more than they originally thought because Keith thought he'd be in and out, you know, in a couple of hours and it has not turned out that way.
The doctors have said that what has happened to Keith has happened as a result of stress.
Keith is about 10 years younger than I am.
Keith does not have clogged arteries that we're aware of.
So the problem is, basically he explained it to me this way.
The arrhythmias, the missed heartbeats, The irregular heartbeats can mean one of two things.
One can mean stress, caffeine, drinking Coca-Cola, not getting enough sleep.
You know, you can get an arrhythmia from that sort of behavior and or stress that is placed upon you or the arrhythmia can mean A precursor to a full-blown heart attack.
Now, they do not yet know which kind of arrhythmia he has, but it is continuing.
Now, it's been going on too long, I can tell you that.
Now, for the latest, the update on Keith, even though Keith is not there, to write it up on his own website, if you will follow my directions, I think you will gain a great deal of insight into what has happened to Keith.
And that means going to my website and simply scroll down to the headline that says Art Bell Sues David Oates and Robert Stevens.
Click on that.
Now when you do, scroll down to the near the bottom of the page and click on ShadyPines.com.
And that's going to take you, it's a link to a page which ostensibly has been catching people up on the lawsuits and a lot of information.
Now, tonight on Shady Pines, the first thing I would like you to click on, it says, Keith Rowland hospitalized with heart problem.
And below that, a link.
It says, latest information will be posted here.
You should click on that.
And then click on the associated links, and I think you'll have a pretty damn good idea of why Keith Rowland has been under stress.
And I have a lot more that I would like to say about this, and I will in time, but I want you to do that for me.
Those of you who are able.
And then you'll also find a link to Terrence McKenna from last hour.
You will find links to tonight's guests coming up shortly.
So once again, let's go through it one more time.
Go to my website.
And simply scroll down to where it says Art Bells, who's David Oates and Robert Stevens.
Click on that.
Scroll down.
And go to shadypines.com.
And when you get there, read the latest information on Keith.
That would be my suggestion to you.
And though I'm not going to go into detail on the air tonight about it, I am going to go into detail shortly.
There are additional Big pieces of information regarding the lawsuit itself that are about to come to the fore.
And that's all I can say about that tonight.
There is a new comet out there.
Or is there?
We're going to be talking with three people tonight about a comet named Lee.
And the people are Stuart Best.
Actually, he was a former professional corporate jet pilot for 25 years.
Retired into professional photography, special effects, commercial and portraits and so forth, video production has produced any number of videotapes on different subjects.
But he's got something to say about Nostradamus.
has been a Nostradamus researcher for a long time.
We did about a four-hour show not long ago on Nostradamus with Stuart Best, so he'll be here talking about what this comet may mean prophetically.
Then comes Earl Crockett, and Earl, we'll tell you about Earl, and Gary Goodwin, both from the Millennium Group, We'll have something to say about this comet, and I've got something from NASA.
NASA has something to say about this comet, officially called Comet C1999 forward slash H1 Lee.
Or, for the sake of the show tonight, we will simply call it Comet Lee.
All of that coming up in a moment.
All right, now, as I mentioned, Stuart Best, who did a recent four-hour show with us here, He's going to talk to us about Nostradamus and what he had to say about a comet soon.
Then we're going to talk also with Earl Crockett from the Millennium Group, and we're going to talk with Gary Goodwin from the Millennium Group.
Earl is 60 years of age, father, husband, stepfather, grandfather, 25-year self-employed financial management organization business consultant, Instrument-rated private pilot with an unaccountable passion for the cosmological principles of quantum mechanics and science in general, and a huge commitment to making a contribution to the transformation of humankind to the next level.
Co-founder and publisher of the Millennium Group web page.
And Gary Goodwin, 45 years of age, Employed as a social worker in a Southern California hospital emergency department, he's got a master's degree in social work, bachelor's in psychology, has been an amateur astronomer since age 10, with a keen ongoing interest in the pseudo-socio process of scientific community culture.
He's co-founder and webmaster for the Millennium Group, so we've got the founder and the co-founder.
He's also a writer, currently working on a science fiction project about what else?
A comet.
Now, let me preface what I'm going to say with the obvious.
There have been rampant internet rumors about Comet Lee.
This is a recently discovered comet.
I've heard it was found and then lost.
And they literally have lost it.
They're not sure where it is right now.
I've heard that Comet Lee has an erratic orbit.
I've heard that, as you can consider an orbit for a comet, its passage is erratic.
That it may be affected by planets or moons or the sun.
That there may be CMEs that could be produced by this comet should something or another occur.
In other words, there are rampant rumors, even rumors, that it could hit Earth.
NASA says no way, no way, that those are absolutely bogus statements, that Comet Lee's orbit is not erratic.
NASA says it is in fact well known the comet will not hit the Earth, nor even come any place close to it.
The closest it will come to Earth is about 77 million miles, bearing in mind the Sun is 93 million miles from the Earth, somewhere around the end of September of 99.
That it will not cause coronal mass ejections, nor will the comet's orbit be affected by them.
So, I think we have a lot to talk about with our guests.
First, Stuart Best.
Stuart, are you there?
Yes, I am.
Thank you for having me.
You bet.
Let's also introduce our other guests, and then sort of maybe all of us can kind of wing this.
Gentlemen, Millennium Group.
Are you here?
Yeah, Earl Crockett here, Art.
Good evening.
Good evening, Earl.
Good evening, Art.
This is Gary.
Gary Goodwin.
Thank you for the opportunity.
You bet.
All right.
I think I want to begin with either one of the two of you from the Millennium Group.
You are aware, gentlemen, are you not, of the wild rumors going on on the Internet right now about this comet.
Who would like to address?
I'll pick it up first, Art.
This is Earl.
Okay, Earl.
Yes, as far as I can tell at the moment, the only website that's talked about it hitting Earth or not hitting Earth is NASA.
Really?
Yeah.
I haven't seen anybody who said anything about it hitting Earth, but they seemed, just like they did with Hale-Bopp, to close any statement about it saying it will not hit Earth.
Oh, I see.
Nobody said it would hit Earth.
That I know of.
Well, let's get, if we can, to the... Have you seen, or are you aware of, the messages running around about this comet having an erratic path or orbit?
Well, again, the only place I've seen erratic used is, again, on the NASA page.
NASA?
Yeah, on the JPL page, where they deny that it's an erratic orbit.
Oh, I see.
Again, they deny a subject that was never mentioned, as far as I know.
What we've said on our own web page, and I think responsibly, that anyone has to say, by definition, that comets are very unpredictable creatures.
You just don't know how they're going to behave.
Brightness, whether they're going to be seen.
Where the orbit's going to wind up until they've crossed into the solar system over the sun and begin their exit out.
Right.
Now, I know there are large supercomputers that have all kinds of programs that you can give a good idea, but, for example, with Hale-Bopp, they made 47 different corrections of the orbit before it actually came into the solar system.
Were they substantial corrections?
In other words, Really changing substantially where it would be with respect to Earth?
Well, I don't know how to define substantial, but there are changes made on new information.
For example, with Comet Lee, we have two sets of data, one from inception observation April 16th to April 27th, and there was an ephemeris printed in that thing that prescribes an orbit.
And then a second ephemeris has been printed as of May 18th with 188 observations.
And that changes.
And as they make these observations, it changes the outcome.
Because they're not quite sure whether the comet's going to go in a straight line, or it's going to bend a little bit, or it's going to go someplace else.
And the more of this data you can get, the more reliable it becomes.
Usually, I say usually, but one of the real possibilities, particularly with Comet Lee, is that as it, well, I better back up Art and say that at the Millennium Group, we have a distinct difference of opinion with NASA on what a comet is.
And NASA thinks comets are dirty snowballs.
That's correct, yes.
And we've talked about this with you before, Art.
And the Millennium Group, following Jim McHaney's Plasma Discharge Theory, we think that they're quite different beasts.
And instead of them giving off, sublimating material off, we think that they're collecting material.
Collecting it, actually, yes, collecting it.
Yes, collecting material.
So, in another term, as the comet comes up and interacts with this solar capacitor, The comet tail begins to grow, creating a drag, as if it were increasing mass.
This drag will slow down the comet.
Alright, hold that thought.
Yes, you've got to understand what they believe a comet is.
And by the way, there are several people with doctorates who happen to agree with them with respect to what a comet is.
So we'll get back to them, and Stuart Best will talk to us about what Nostradamus had to say about all of this.
All of this as we continue through the nighttime on Coast to Coast AM.
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Or don't know about this comet from the Millennium Group.
Stuart, I hope you'll just hang in there with us.
Oh, no problem.
It's very interesting.
By the way, feel free to chime in anytime you want.
But I think we're going to bore in with you after we get our friends here at the Millennium Group to tell us what they do know.
Now, gentlemen, you don't think that a comet is what NASA thinks a comet is.
I think it would certainly be fair to say That if they knew what a comet was, without any shadow of a doubt, they would not be launching rockets to sneak up on the tail of a comet so as to capture some of the material so they can learn more.
So obviously, they don't know everything, do they, Earl?
No, they don't.
And the more and more data that come in from satellites, I mean, The big question is, someday, somebody's got to answer why we don't have one single high-resolution photograph from the Hubble Space Telescope or any major U.S.
observatory on Comet Hale-Bopp.
You know, what are they hiding?
There's something about the true nature of that beast as it came through the solar system that there's an absolute lid on.
Oh, you're absolutely correct.
And so, you know, we could say, in the most general way, there must be something about their true nature, if known, would kind of overturn things, which would lead to kind of a house of cards tumbling on the whole Big Bang cosmology.
All right, well... So we could get back to Comet Lee, though.
All right, but when was Comet Lee discovered?
Do you know?
April 16.
April 16th.
April 16th.
That's how new it is.
So that was a public discovery of it.
It was April 16th by a fellow named Stephen Lee.
That's like one month ago.
Yes, in Australia.
So he all of a sudden saw this thing and said, holy smokes, or something.
Two months ago.
I'm sorry, two months ago.
We're in June, that's right.
And he was at a star party, of all things, in Australia.
Old people coming from all over the countryside, setting up their telescope and A bunch went off to do something and he said, I don't want to do that.
He looked through the telescope and here's the comet.
A comet, of course, is discernible because unlike a star, which on a good clear night is a pinprick of light, a comet is kind of a bit of a blur because it's moving and it has a tail.
Right.
Is that fair to say?
Yes.
Well, he says in his own description, Stephen Lee says, that He happened to be looking at a part of the sky that he was very familiar with.
He knew where the stars were supposed to be.
He saw something he didn't think should be there, and he said, I'll wait five minutes and look again, and when he did, yep, that thing had moved.
That's the other thing.
The background stars stay the same, but the comet moved.
So, I guess he did... I mean, I've seen all the movies, Armageddon and all the rest of them, and I guess he did what somebody in that position does, What do you do?
You get on the phone and you call an observatory?
International Astronomical Union, the IAU.
And you say, hey guys, you're not going to believe what I just found.
Here's where, go look, right?
Yes, and they say, Brian Marston says, yes sir, we hear from people like you every day.
Give us the position and so forth, and then get someone else to confirm that position.
So the other thing that he did after talking to him, he called someone he knew at a major observatory, and if this man said he confirmed it, then nobody would question it.
And he did that.
So he woke up the next morning having some mortality, a comet named after him.
A comet named after him.
Big deal.
What we're saying about this orbit right now is that If this comet, when this comet could react with the solar capacitor in such a way to grow a large plasma tail, which would slow it down.
If it slows down, it will change the orbit.
In other words, if the orbits being predicted now are on a straight speed basis, come in and go out in a certain orbit, but if it slows down, it'll bend back in.
Now we don't know, nobody knows, nobody, even NASA knows, How it's going to react?
Well, NASA is saying the closest it will come to Earth is about 77 million miles.
Bearing in mind the Sun is 93 million miles from Earth.
And that's going to occur toward the end of September this year.
Well, see, that's the other part of the thing.
NASA wants us to believe, by their other statement, that the only way a comet or any other astronomical body can harm us is if it impacts the Earth.
That's all the movies.
We're saying that's not the whole story.
So the rest of the story from your point of view is what?
Action at a distance.
That the electrical magnetic interaction between the comet and the Sun and the solar capacitor can trip off coronal mass ejections just like Hale-Bopp did when it passed per helium on April 7, 1997 A huge coronal mass ejection, a complete full halo, CME, that came out of no place.
That occurred during the passage of Hale-Bopp?
As it passed over the top of the Sun, yes.
And what we say was a direct reaction with Hale-Bopp.
Does NASA acknowledge that that did occur?
Not necessarily that there is a connection, but did NASA acknowledge the CME at the point?
Oh yes, and we have movies of it.
They acknowledge it, but they don't acknowledge that it was connected with Hale-Barr.
Art, let me say this.
You recited a statement from JPL, NASA, and at the end of that statement it says, We hope that everybody watches these people, that when their predictions don't come true, that you will know that they're not for real.
Well, NASA made many predictions about Hale-Bopp, and in fact, the orbit that you're talking about is a prediction by NASA.
We are saying absolutely the opposite.
We don't know which way that's going.
That comet is unpredictable.
Yes, there are Mathematics and statistics that show that they usually go this way, but that does not mean that this comet is going to go that way, just like Hale-Bopp didn't go that, the way that they predicted.
NASA actually says Comet Lee, or any comet, will not cause coronal mass ejections, and Comet Lee's orbit is not affected by them.
Well, there's no literature that supports that statement, so that statement is purely opinion.
Actually, you know, they really go on a chair here toward the end.
It says, I'll read the whole thing, it says, it seems every time we have a modestly bright comet or someone or group or tabloid will claim the comet is a threat to Earth, has a spaceship traveling next to it, or some other nonsense, they get on the radio and call themselves scientists.
Those of us that provide legitimate information on comets are obviously part of some grand conspiracy.
If you are one that believes the nonsense that these people promote, then certainly you're right.
However, remember their predictions.
When they do not come true, and none of them came true with Hale-Bopp, perhaps the next time you will not be so willing to believe the pseudo-scientific predictions they make.
Well, Art, we did make some statements about Hale-Bopp.
You know as well as everyone out there that watches the news, the terrible disasters that have increased exponentially over the last couple years.
Yeah, last two years specifically.
Well, there's absolutely no question.
You mean the weather changes, the horrible hurricanes and tornadoes, and we could go on and on and on and on?
Yeah.
I would like someone to explain to those people that suffered from Mitch in Honduras, those people that suffered in Oklahoma from tornadoes on the Yangtze River.
I would like someone to explain to them what caused those things.
Well, I can tell you what they would say.
We know.
We know.
La Nina?
Right?
El Niño and La Niña?
And here's the other thing, though.
That April 7th CME that came out of nowhere in the sun set off a good, strong two years of sun activity with high electrical-magnetic interactions with Earth, which powered these incredible storms that we had.
There's no question about it.
Well, we are, of course, in the ascension portion of Cycle 23 that should max out around January of 2000, they say.
That's right, but this was well in advance of when the max was supposed to be.
Yeah, there's more to this, Richard.
I just downloaded an article from the BBC.
I'll just read you part of it.
He said, the evidence for an increasingly energetic Sun comes from a new analysis of the magnetic field between the planets carried out by scientists at Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Wow.
Yeah, we have a paper on our page, Art, called the Planet Neptune Physical State of Earth and Life, which speaks to this also.
And I want to get back to this point about Comet Lee.
field has increased in strength by 40% Wow yeah we have a we have a paper on
our on our page art called the planet planet net though physical state of
earth and life which would speak to this also and and I want to get back to this
point about commonly commonly came to our attention first and foremost by by
criminal James Irvin who wrote to us and says I have been investigating the
Nostradamus predictions for some time now And he said, I have been specifically looking for a comment that's being predicted.
And I've searched and searched, and I've found a comet that seems to fit that description called Comet Lee.
Will you people please look at this as soon as possible?
And we took that information and jumped on it, and what we saw was, we saw something not only that was going to potentially fit with Nostradamus' prediction, we saw a comet from our Plasma Discharge Theory that could in fact be very significant.
I think so.
and significant why because when the plane of the comet no matter whether
it goes out by mars or goes out by jupiter comes down by earth when it
exits back down to the ecliptic
that plane in other words that line earth will eventually intersect with that line
where it crossed back to the ecliptic are you with me? I think so in other words how in other
words if I have it right
no matter how it crosses we're going to in our path around the sun
cross its path That's right.
We're going to cross that path.
I understand.
Okay, the path may have been 77 million, it may have been 5 million, it may have been some million, but we'll cross that path.
At the point that we're going to cross that path, sometime in September area, we also happen to have A very unusual alignment, an exact alignment of Venus, the Earth, and the Moon at the point we cross that path.
Under the Plasma Discharge Theory of the Solar System, what this says to us is that there is a chance for some huge electrical-magnetic interaction between that path of the comet, the Sun, Venus, the Earth, and the Moon.
That's the potential.
Okay?
You see, so we're saying there's a potential for action at a distance.
Well, what could that potential be?
Yes.
At that time, it could be, say, some huge coronal mass ejections on the sun, which means that we would have high magnetic readings on the Earth, which means that they would fuel, say, for peak hurricane situations.
We could have a hurricane season this year, That's beyond anybody's belief.
And they're already saying it's going to be a bad one.
Well, with respect to the tornadoes, something really interesting, the horrid, horrid, horrid tornado, the really big one of the swarm of tornadoes that they had that were just incredible, scientists said there could be no such thing as an F6 tornado, even though The scale for tornadoes goes past F5.
Scientists have said that an F6 tornado is theoretically impossible, simply impossible in our atmosphere, and yet it would appear that we had an F6 tornado.
I'll give you a real one to hold on your socks to that.
On the x-ray chart recording explosions on the sun, They rated them as first B, C, then M, and X. Why, I don't know.
But going up order, B the lowest, C the next, M and then X. M and X, yes.
Okay?
So X was the biggest.
That's the big one.
X class.
Alright?
So they decided to redesign the page and make the graphs and so forth more readable and a whole lot of other things.
And when the new graphs came out, guess what?
What?
It was a class above X. Totally unexplained to this day.
Now, when did that occur?
I've always thought X class was the biggest.
What is the new class?
That happened about six months ago.
And what is that?
What is the new class?
There's no name on it, but it's a class above X. They know something's going on.
There's no question about it.
So X was the largest possible kind of sun event that we could have, and now we have a category above X. Where can this be seen?
On today's space, I'll get you the URL right away.
Oh, today's space?
Today's space weather.
As a matter of fact, I believe at one time we had a link to that on my website.
I think we do.
Today's space weather.
Today's space weather.
And on that page they have a new classification above X. It's unnamed.
And I believe it was about six months, six, seven months ago when they changed the format.
And suddenly appeared a class above X. Was there any explanation with it?
Nope.
Well, new things are occurring, I mean, almost on a weekly basis, these new records.
For instance, over the last couple of weeks, we've had new records in sunspot numbers, for instance, on the sun.
Before, the record was broken from 1957, and it just shot up.
And now today, we're 240.
the scale is still going up today is a is that smooth number two point
well that is very high and is very high and it uh... it's like a civilized
couple weeks it's gone over that nineteen fifty seven record about five
times four five times it should start to treat increase should keep going up
which we're not to the solar maximum yet but no other as a matter of fact
interestingly the press has been doing something that i did not expect and that
is at the beginning of the year everything was why to get what
you get what you get and then
suddenly as fast uh... just like somebody through a switch in the
publicity and what you gave the game and like somebody through another switch it ended
and then you began to see stories on cnn and on the bbc and lots places saying
the sun maximum is going to occur right about the same time as y two k and
That what happens from the sun could possibly make Y2K pale by comparison.
You've seen that too?
Oh, you bet I have!
Sure I have!
Well, here's the possibility on that one, and we've kicked it around quite a bit.
Why would we suddenly now get an announcement on sun activities where they've been really silent about it in the past?
I mean, not saying really anything about possible earth effects of sun You know, it's such a good point.
I have no idea.
But now, suddenly, they want to publicize it in relationship to Y2K.
Is maybe the reason you want to publicize solar flares with Y2K is that maybe some of the outages caused by Y2K could be blamed on the sun, which doesn't sound very much like a government?
Well, you know, we could sit here and we could all speculate about Why the publicity is going this way?
I mean, obviously that's right.
But you saw something strange, Art.
So did we.
Why does it come out with those two related?
And Art, you see that we're not saying that this comet's going to hit the Earth.
We're not saying even that we're scientists.
We're just asking questions.
And we're intelligent people and we want to know.
Well, you are certainly not alone in academia with regard to your belief about comets versus what NASA believes about comets.
And we are talking about belief here because the hard science is pretty small and we're launching rockets to try and improve that right now, but nobody really knows about comets for sure.
Your ideas are very different than theirs.
You're not saying it's going to hit Earth, but you are suggesting that The causal relationship between the comet and the Sun, particularly at this high activity moment, may cause a coronal mass ejection, as you suggest occurred at the closest passage of Hale-Bopp to the Sun.
Yes?
Yes, that and at any time that there's an intersection between Orbits of some significant planet or alignments which we're going to have here soon in September sometime.
Sun, Venus, Earth and the Moon.
Yes.
So the point is that we don't live in a vacuum.
We live in a system and the inner solar system is rich with plasma, charged hydrogen and we are affected by the Sun.
We're affected by these behemoths coming through here.
They affect us, and that's what we're saying.
There is another rumor on the internet that Comet Lee was found, and then for a period of time, lost.
Is that true or a myth?
That may come from the fact that the first few published ephemeris are the thing that shows the trajectory of the comet.
Yes.
There are some spaces in that ephemeris.
I see.
They've absolutely just left out spaces of several months in two different places.
Several months?
Well, I can see then how that would lead to, uh, we lost it.
All right, everybody, hold on.
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Good morning, everybody.
We're talking about Comet Lee.
Comet Lee, which NASA says will not hit Earth, nor come anywhere close, nor even be a particularly bright comet.
Certainly will never cause a mass coronal ejection of any sort.
Has an orbit that is not at all erratic as well known.
And that is what our tax dollars bring to us from NASA, along with some caustic comments.
And we have with us the Millennium Group, in the form of Earl Crockett and Gary Goodwin.
They'll be back in a moment, and shortly we'll take off on what Nostradamus had to say about a comet like Lee at a time like September, because Stuart Best knows about Nostradamus.
He had something very specific to say, so stay right where you are.
Now, once again, everybody, as you know, you probably know, or maybe you don't know, Keith Rowland, my webmaster, is in the hospital.
He went in the hospital last night at about 8 o'clock and he remains in the hospital due to an arrhythmia, which may... Well, it certainly is not one of those things where you go in and they take a look and send you home and say, don't worry.
On the other hand, we don't know what it is yet.
I can report to you at this hour only that it was continuing when I last talked to Keith, and that was just a couple of hours ago now.
There's a much easier way to get to shadypines.com, where the information on Keith is.
If you go to my website at www.artbell.com, and you simply go on the main page, take a look, Newest Site Additions.
There's a whole bunch of links there and if you read down, you look down, you will see one that says updated Shady Pines website opens and when you click on that, one of the very first things you're going to see on Shady Pines is Keith Rowland hospitalized with heart problem.
Latest information will be posted here and you click on that and then sort of Follow the links, if you will.
And when you see a link regarding an accusation that was made about Keith Rowland, click on that.
And I think you'll have a pretty good, deep understanding of what stress Keith Rowland might have been under that has precipitated this or may have precipitated this.
There is a strong reason to believe that may be so.
I'm going to tell you a little something about, at the expense of my guests, something about Keith that he never talks about.
There's a side of Keith Rowland that you don't know about.
I'm not even sure he'd want me to tell you about it, but I'm going to because I know I know what's happened here.
Keith and his family are deeply religious people.
They don't wear it on their sleeve.
They don't talk about it.
They don't proselytize.
They are privately, quietly, deeply religious.
This is something you've probably not known about Keith.
I know it because on Sundays he has prayer meetings at his house.
During the week, he goes to church.
He is a born-again Christian.
Keith is a very deeply religious man.
He never talks about it.
He never, as I said, proselytizes.
He's just very deeply religious.
Well, as you go to Shady Pines and you do the reading and you find out about the stinking, lousy allegation made about Keith, Which, by the way, is part of the lawsuit.
Part of his statement.
You'll see the actual message itself.
Accusing Keith Rowland of child molestation.
One of the worst things you can say about anybody.
On the face of the earth.
As far as I'm concerned.
I'm sure many of you.
That profoundly affected him.
Profoundly.
So if you want to follow the dots, connect the dots, as Richard Hoagland would say.
My thanks to Joe Odo, who has posted this information.
I suggest you follow the trail.
And again, you can do so by going to my website, www.artbell.com, the one Keith maintains.
Going to the newest site additions, which will hit you right in the eye.
It's right there at the middle of the page.
Just look down until you see something that says updated Shady Pines website opens.
Click on that and follow the yellow brick road and you make your own determination based on what you see.
It's going to be a lot of news about all of that breaking shortly.
All right, back now to my guests.
All of you, thank you for your patience.
Earl and But Gary, the Millennium Group guys, I want you to get out now in this segment that we have, whatever you feel it really is critical for people to know, and this would be, and I guess you've really in a way already done that, but versus what NASA says about this comet.
It's going to go by.
It's not even going to get particularly bright, they say.
It's not going to affect the sun.
The sun isn't going to affect it.
It's going to pass 77 million miles away from the Earth, not Even close.
And so if you have anything you want to delineate from that position again, clearly for the audience, please do so.
Okay, here it is.
And the next three to four weeks are absolutely critical.
And in receiving data, both on position and brightness, it's going to be very telling as to how this thing is going to turn out.
So we're in this discovery period right now.
But we do see that it has some basic components this far that give us reason to believe that it could be very inactive with the sun.
That's all we can say right now.
One of the things that I think is very, very interesting about this is that on June 21st, It comes up through the ecliptic and goes behind the sun so that we can't see it.
June 21st, that's just a few days from now.
Right.
Yeah, on June 21st it crosses the ecliptic.
Coming up from the bottom and as it comes up over the top, alright, the first view that's going to be seen of that comet as it comes out from behind the sun in the northern latitudes is going to be Almost exactly coincident with the August 11th full eclipse of the sun that's going to go across the Canadian Western Europe or across Eastern Europe.
So there's a possibility that in broad daylight, a total eclipse, and there's going to be a comet.
NASA is suggesting that they think it will be not particularly bright at all, not ever visible to the naked eye at night.
You're suggesting that may not be the case?
It may not be the case.
Art, there's a couple things that I want to say.
On the 21st, which is solstice, which is neither here nor there, but on On that date, Comet Lee does pass through the ecliptic.
The ecliptic holds some special significance, because as comets in the past have passed through the ecliptic, they have come apart.
We have pictures on our web page of a comet that passed through the ecliptic several AUs out, where the strength of the solar wind and the solar capacitor is less.
And this comet comes apart and then as it passes through it coalesces.
As Comet Hale-Bopp came through the ecliptic out past Jupiter on its way in, we have pictures of that comet coming apart.
You know what?
I was about to jump in and say that myself.
Exactly.
There were some pictures taken by major observatories of the comet.
It was like headlights.
It looked as though the comet had split in two.
Right.
Is that what you are referring to?
I think that was taken a few months after it passed through the ecliptic.
Okay, that may be so.
We have another picture, though, of how it popped out, and it was taken off the web pretty quick.
I think Chuck Ceramic got a copy of it, and he kind of passed it around to us, and you can see it coming apart.
And so that's caused this You know, from then on, we know where Hale-Bopp went.
All right, well, again, let's stay with Hale-Bopp for a second.
You may recall that after the passage of Hale-Bopp, or the closest passage, Richard Hoagland was on, and he was saying, look, NASA has an incredible opportunity and a kind of a short window to get some really spectacular photographs with Hubble of this comet.
Why are they not And I don't think that question was ever satisfactorily answered.
Well, it's never been answered to me.
And, you know, there's some other things that they could get.
You know, something that Jim McKinney's been asking for for years, for decades, in fact, are some simple studies on x-ray production in comets.
He theorized several decades ago that comets produce x-rays because of A fusion that takes place because of what we were talking about, about a comet being a vacuum cleaner.
So the hydrogen and the plasma is rushing into the core of this comet.
And as these particles rush in, they create fusion, and kind of like a particle accelerator.
And as these particles collide, x-rays are produced.
And you'll recall that when we saw Haya Kotaki, That was one of the big, bright comments just before Hale-Bopp.
I remember.
They said, oh, well, here's some x-rays.
And then also Hale-Bopp produced x-rays.
That's right.
They've never quite figured out why the x-rays.
I'd like to know how a snowball can produce x-rays.
They were saying that, well, it absorbs the x-rays from the sun and then redistributes them.
You know, even that statement implies an interaction that we hadn't known about before, even if that's... Exactly.
Right?
Exactly.
And that leads right into your gentlemen, you folks' theory of what a comet is versus what NASA says it is.
And like you said, Jim Hoagland has asked for these studies from Hale-Bopp.
We've asked for them.
Jim McKinney's been asking for years for studies about, like the X-ray thing that I brought up.
He's been asking and we get nothing.
All we simply want to do is to know the answers to these questions.
Every company, every big organization that spends the money that this NASA company spends of our tax dollars has some kind of review committee.
We would cherish the opportunity to be able to look over the shoulder of some of these guys and look at the data.
I don't think it's ever going to happen.
I think we could do that, and we could represent the taxpayers pretty well in that.
And if I had a dream, or if I had a present to ask for, that's exactly what I would ask for.
So, I guess put straight out, you don't think that NASA's telling us all they know, by a long shot, about comets?
Absolutely not, yes.
And you know, Art, we've been accused of being fear mongers and saying that the earth is going to be destroyed.
That's just hogwash.
There's nothing that we despise more.
Our role is not to create fear in people.
We believe in a different way.
Art, we believe that really, as I say in the paper, and it's who I really stand for, and you were talking about Keith Rowland, And some things about him that are not known.
There's a lot of things about Gary and myself that are not known either.
I'm sure that's true.
We're doing this for absolutely no compensation whatsoever.
We're paying for everything out of our own pockets.
We've got no tapes or CDs or anything, and there's nothing wrong with anyone that does.
but this is the passion for us because we feel that the citizens of this country and
this planet are fellow human beings, are intelligent people given the facts of the matter can make
good decisions.
All right, so you've got a large organization that gives us supposedly straight information
about this sort of thing, NASA, and you represent legitimate dissents.
and we have no desire whatsoever to create fear.
In fact, exactly the opposite.
We feel that if people have the facts and are informed, and they know that we're in a dynamic universe that expands and creates at all times, and that we're a part of it, and we're also, and this is where we step over a little bit in a larger plan, if people can really grasp that, then they have nothing to fear any longer.
So it's quite the opposite of what some people say about it.
Well, there is one thing, and this almost gets to Stuart Best's territory, which is where we're going anyway, but comets, for all of man's remembrance and recordings, have been thought of as harbingers of change.
Well, boy, if you lived in Honduras last year, you sure would believe that.
Yes, a big change.
I mean, change in the weather, change in social attitudes, change in all kinds of things.
Now, I guess what you guys are saying is that there's basis to that thought, that they are indeed harbingers of change, and that the ancient wisdom with regard to comets is not wrong.
That's exactly what we're saying, right, Gary?
Absolutely.
All right, I wanted to be sure that I did not misinterpret what you gentlemen have been saying.
We have a link to the Millennium Group.
If people want to get to your website, do you want to give the direct address so they can go read for themselves?
Right, it's posted on the page now.
It's www.MillennGroup.com.
And you're not selling tapes?
You're not selling books?
No, there's nothing for sale on our site, no.
I'm sure both of our wives wish we were.
I certainly understand that, believe me.
You did a wonderful job, as always, and I'm sure you're going to have a lot of people reading.
Thank you for being here, both of you.
Thank you, Art.
Thank you very much.
and hit on the repository and that's where all our stories are.
Alright then, listen you two, I'm going to say thank you, you did a wonderful job as
always and I'm sure you're going to have a lot of people reading and so thank you for
being here, both of you.
Oh thank you Art, thank you very much and thank you Stuart.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Our best wishes to Keith, too.
I hope he gets better.
Prayers are in order.
Absolutely.
Thank you, gentlemen.
You bet.
Thank you.
Good night.
Good night.
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the prophecy you're going to hear is that of nostradamus uh... the person bringing us tonight's prophecy will be steward
best And I'm going to read you now what Stuart wrote to me with regard to Comet Lee.
Art, I scanned your website to find a reference to comet C1999-3-Li, which is showing signs
of fulfillment of Nostradamus' prophecies for July of 1999 through September of 1999.
1.
Great King of Terror from the Sky in September of 1999, comet Li, will be closest in September
2.
Tale of the Comet has object that strikes Earth.
3.
Eclipse of the Sun this summer August 11th of 99 will cause the world to see the comet.
Few will understand.
4.
Comet was to come out of the area of cancer.
Comet Lee Does.
Also of interest, he writes, in this regard, are those working on the Bible codes, because they found a reference to September 11th, 1999, which indicates massive upheavals and social disorder.
Could they be related?
Please, remember the movie, Deep Impact, where the comet was discovered by a star party.
True, huh?
Government knew about ELE for many months prior to public admission.
Inside sources told us that CIA approached Hollywood to produce both Deep Impact and Armageddon.
Why?
And believe me, in a moment we are going to ask Stuart Best about all of this.
So that, my friend, is what's coming up.
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Now, ladies and gentlemen, Stuart Best.
Stuart, welcome to the show.
Well, thank you.
And thank you for being patient through all of that.
Oh, that was very interesting.
Yeah, I really thought we should kind of lay that down before we got to the prophecy part.
Yes.
Now, you heard me read what you sent me.
Now, obviously, this got my attention, and I'd like to take it piece by piece.
Right.
You were surprised to find no reference on the website to Comet LEAD.
Yes, actually I was.
I was searching around to see who had information on it.
When I did not see it on your website, I wondered if you knew about it.
Well, I can tell you the background.
I was getting a million emails about it, and I was beginning to do what research I could, and I was getting such mixed signals out there that I didn't want to put anything up until I knew What the hell the real truth was about this comment, and I'm not sure I know now, but let's take it from your point of view with what you know about Nostradamus.
Now, there is a prediction that Nostradamus made covering a period of time in dispute somewhere between July and September of this year.
Is that correct?
That's right.
He says in his Quantrains in the year 1999, he's very, very specific, and Nostradamus is not that specific usually.
His Quantrains are Shall we say broad-brushed?
It can be interpreted in a number of ways.
There were very few specific, very specific predictions.
This is one of them, right?
This is one of them.
He says, in the year 1999, the seventh month, and there's argument whether that means July or September, from the sky will come a great king of terror.
I'll stop it right there.
Now, to back it up, he says, When all, or where all good is, everything right with the sun and the moon is abundant.
Now, that's a very interesting statement.
I interpret Nostradamus somewhat differently than most do.
But what I'm reading here is that where all good is, everything is right with the sun and moon, is essentially everything is in harmony.
Everything is running by the normal laws of the universe.
Yeah, I can see that.
Copacetic.
Right.
Have you ever heard of a mother ship them?
Yes, I have.
All right.
She has something to say about this.
Very interesting.
For in those wondrous far-off days, the women will adapt a craze to dress like men in trousers wear and to cut off their locks of hair.
When pictures look alive with movements free, when ships like fishes swim beneath the sea, When men like birds shall scour the sky, then half the
world, deep-drenched in blood, shall die.
In other words, what she's saying is, it's a period of relative peace.
Things are going along normally. Man's technology is increasing. We've got airplanes, we've got submarines.
We're doing all this, and then suddenly, something occurs.
Now, in the Bible, it indicates that the heavens are run by a law.
That God has laid down certain laws for the heavenly bodies and they run according to those laws.
The book of Enoch goes into it in great detail.
Yes, sir.
But then something happens.
In Nostradamus, getting back to him, he says, it's ruin, which I believe is referring back to the sun and the moon, as well as the earth and everything else.
Yes.
It's ruin approaches from the sky.
It advances to vary your fortune in the same state as the seventh rock.
Now that comment about the seventh rock to me is extremely interesting because if you come outward from the Sun you've got Mercury, Venus, Earth, the Moon, Mars, and two satellites for a total of seven.
Now ancient literature has a fair amount to say about Mars and its little satellite Yes.
And you recall probably from Gordon Michael Scallion's prophecies that he indicated that he saw in one of his visions, or whatever you want to call them, that Phobos was going to break loose from its orbit.
I recall that, yes.
I believe that the reference here to the seventh rock may very well be a reference to Phobos, which is kind of interesting in view of what the ancients had to say that Mars, if you recall, was in kind of an elliptical orbit that occasionally intersected with the Earth's orbit.
All right.
Backtrack a little for me.
Yes.
Can you explain to the audience why there is Controversy about what Nostradamus meant by the seventh month.
We, of course, think of it as July.
How could it be September?
Well, they changed the calendars for one thing, and they had put in a couple of more months.
July and August were named after the Caesars, and that changed the calendar, and so some people feel that that advances everything.
In reality, the seventh month is September, but in the original French, it's Sept, S-E-P-T, or short for September.
There's another proof, however, because he says that this terror from the sky comes after an eclipse.
When the eclipse of the sun will be, and he's talking about 1999, in broad daylight, the monster will be seen.
Everyone will differ on the interpretation.
So in other words, we know for a scientific fact that September 11th, there is going to be an eclipse of the sun.
Yes.
So therefore, that would have to put it not in July, but rather in September.
In September.
All right.
But that is within the disputed or controversial parameters of what Nostradamus predicted.
Yes.
Absolutely, we're just taking it from a logical point of view.
So here we've got an area of the Earth that is going to be in darkness in the middle of the day.
If a comet did become bright, and scientists are frequently wrong about whether a comet is going to be bright or dim, a lot of times they say it's going to be an incredibly bright comet, and then it poops out.
Or they're suddenly surprised, tremendously surprised, like they were with the Hillbop With regard to brightness, and so there could be a surprise a-comin' from Comet Lee.
What makes you think that Comet Lee... You say something here about Nostradamus suggesting that this will come to us from Cancer, and that Comet Lee is coming from Cancer.
It comes in from the area of Cancer and the constellations.
And that is where it's actually going to be coming from.
And that fulfills that part of it.
Now, that does not necessarily mean that Comet Lee is the comet in question.
It could be another comet.
However, the dates that they have already issued, NASA has issued, for its proximity to the Sun coming up over, and the close point to the Earth, match approximately the dates that Nostradamus is giving
through logical deduction.
And so therefore, it makes you wonder.
It doesn't necessarily mean that Comet Lee is that comet, but it certainly does make
you wonder.
And it's not a comet that strikes the Earth.
What the comet does, evidently, as the Millennium Group fellows were talking about, it disturbs
the solar system.
And it's very, very interesting that the Lord made a comment that the laws that control
the heavenly bodies become disorganized.
What did you mean by, tale of the comet has object that strikes Earth?
Well, that's in reference to that seventh rock.
That's one of the interpretations that is given to it.
Oh, I see.
Okay, Phobos.
Yes, or it could.
In other words, it triggers a chain reaction of events, and that might be the fulfillment that Gordon Michael Scallion was seeing.
That Phobos is knocked from its orbit, or it changes, or Mars even changes its orbits.
Go into the ancient literature or go into the Old Testament.
It indicates that, for example, the earth year was 360 days long, not 365.
So there's been changes.
The Lord said that as it was in the days of Noah, it would be that way again.
So that means it's going to change back.
That would require a total upset of all the laws that we know today that are running the heavenly bodies.
So then you agree that the passage of this comet could bring on great disorder, confusion?
Oh, yes.
Very, very possible.
If that's the trigger event.
I mean, we don't know what the Lord actually meant, for example, when he said the heavenly bodies become disorganized, the laws that govern them.
Obviously, some object or something triggers a massive disarray
everything we know the controls the heavenly bodies my friend stand down
in australia has had some comments
on this comment i believe
and uh... i saw a message from stan and holly have you communicated with stand
dale at all with respect to this kind of uh... no no i have a
you are aware he has commented the nor was a wealthy has or or what did he say
i would rather than trying to uh...
paraphrase his words i would like to have mom and uh... let him suppose say
what he would like for himself and i'll do that Now listen, you say here, please remember the movie Deep Impact, where the comet was discovered by a star party.
Government knew about ELE, which stood for Extinction Level Event, correct?
Right.
In other words, goodbye Earth.
Right.
In the movie they did for many months prior to public admission.
Inside sources told us, now this is really something, that the CIA approached Hollywood to produce both Deep Impact and Armageddon.
Yes.
Now that's quite a, that's a hell of a statement to make.
How do you know that the CIA, or what, can I ask you for Your source on that?
I can't really reveal the source.
All I can say is that the source was very reliable from everything that we have had dealings with from before, and I have no reason to doubt that this movie and Armageddon were made for a reason.
It seems to me very, very strange that as we're moving into what the biblical terms, the end of days, or the tribulation period, or the Hopi's purification, or whatever you want to term it, that suddenly we're getting all these movies on disaster.
What would be the point, just out of curiosity, do you believe, to our secret government, or a secret agency in our government, having these movies I mean, either one of them would scare the hell out of you.
I've watched both.
Deep Impact, perhaps scarier, I thought, and perhaps more realistic.
Yes.
But either one would scare the hell out of you.
So what would be the point in our government inviting Hollywood to make these movies?
What's the point?
Well, I would think that the point would be to instill in people's minds some of the things that were put into place in that movie.
For example, there were many comments about martial law.
Yes, there were.
Things like that.
Getting those statements into the public mind.
Now we have congressmen talking about the possibility of martial law.
They're doing it in relationship to Y2K.
But now they're beginning to relate Y2K to solar flares.
Yeah, I know.
We talked about that with our Millennium Group gentlemen, and that really is something that's been puzzling me.
Again, Y2K came, boom, it was in the press, then boom, it was gone, and it was replaced by, gee, the sun could be a bigger problem than Y2K.
And Y2K has been called an intractable, impossible, The code is broken too late to fix problem.
It's been called that by a lot of people really in the know, at least it was until recently.
And now that's been supplanted by talk about the sun being an even bigger factor.
So, your comments?
Well, I guess my comment would be that what we're watching is a systematic, how do I want to word this,
Rising, I guess, of a fear level.
It seems as though there are forces at work that are getting people to become increasingly fearful, and at the same time instilling the concept that because of these problems that are developing, we're going to have to have martial law and get rid of our Bill of Rights, get rid of our
Constitution, because we've got to have a handle on all these things that are going wrong.
And by that method, of course, you could, if that was the ultimate goal, bring in a whole new governmental system.
And I'm very suspicious because, as you know, biblical prophecies more or less indicate that, as do actually some
of the Hopi prophecies, etc., etc.
you.
Yes, I had, as you all know, I had Hopi elders on my program.
It was tough because we had to actually translate as we went, but they said, and they just don't go on the air anywhere at all, I mean they never talk about this thing publicly, but they said in translation that It is not coming.
It's beginning.
It has already begun.
You know what they call this great cleansing and of course they talk of something from the sky that approximates a comet as well as the cleanser.
Yes.
And they said we would never have come on your show except that it is so serious and so close and then of course we've got people like Father Malachi Martin.
God bless his recovering heart.
Who had something else to say about the sky as well.
Hold on, we're gonna take calls after the break at the top of the hour, okay?
Sure.
Alright, stay right there.
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Once again, I want to tell my audience, for the latest on Keith Rowland, who remains, at this hour, in the hospital, with continuing arrhythmia, Assembly, go to my website, www.artbell.com.
Scroll down the main page until you get the Newest Site Additions.
And about halfway, about midway through that, Newest Site Additions, you will see a link, actually a little further down the halfway, that says, Updated.
Shady Pines website opens.
Click on that.
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We'll be right back with Stuart Best and, of course, your calls about what Nostradamus had to say.
All right.
Are you ready, Stuart, for the great unwashed public?
All right.
Here they come.
What you're saying is pretty scary stuff with regard to prophecy.
Oh, yes.
No question about it.
And what is even more frightening is that all of these prophecies from all the different sources are converging at the same Point in time.
It really would seem so.
As I listen, I would come to the same conclusion.
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I'm in White Center, USA.
Okay.
I have a question, Mr. Stuart.
At the time of this eclipse, this coming eclipse, will the moon be eclipsing Mars at the same time that the moon is eclipsing The sun.
That, I couldn't tell you.
I'd have to look that up.
If it was, would they be able to take pictures of the comet so that they could probe it and find out what its direct course is?
Well, by that time, I think they'll probably already know, as the Millennium Group was talking, the next four weeks are going to determine a lot.
However, and this has to be put in here.
Because all the prophecies indicate that something goes wrong with the natural order of things.
And everything is predicted, trajectories, all of that, orbits are predicted on natural order that we have been observing for years.
Correct.
Practically all of science is based upon previous analysis of what they've seen and been able
to record and put it down.
That establishes then a foundation from which science builds.
But all of the prophecies indicate that all of that is going to be thrown out the window.
If you have in fact, I don't think we appreciate what all of the prophets are saying when they
say that the laws that govern these things go out of kilter or become disorganized.
Almost like all mathematical equations.
Everything's going to go berserk.
Nothing is going to run its normal run.
And I think we're already seeing signs of that.
I read that article from the BBC.
They've seen increases of magnetism, now it says, by 40% since 1964.
In other words, we're going to see Increasing anomalies, I believe in the sun first, the Lord is very, very specific that the first signs are going to emanate from our sun.
And that we are going to see increasing anomalies, variances from what is normal.
And if cycle 23 is in fact the cycle that triggers what we call the end times, the days of purification or cleansing, We're going to see increasing activity in the sun that is going to go far beyond anything that science now understands or knows.
What I'm saying is that science has a foundation based upon previous observation.
Those observations are going to mean nothing if, in fact, all of the prophecies say all of that comes undone.
All of that goes out the window.
Right.
And it can seem so fearful at this time, yet rather exciting.
Well, it's both.
Having the curious mind that I have, it just seems really exciting to me.
I appreciate this opportunity to talk with you.
Well, thank you.
I'm going to go for now, and I'm going to listen to more.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Stuart Best and Art Bell.
Good morning.
Hello?
Hi there.
Hi.
I'm Jessie from La Crosse, Wisconsin.
How are you doing, Jessie?
I'm doing fine, and happy birthday, Art.
Oh, thank you.
You're welcome.
Mr. Best, I also have the book Nostradamus, and I read Mother Shipton, and you read the first part.
Now, I read the second part, the negative part, but didn't understand it.
Could you read that and explain to arts fans worldwide, and to me too, what the second part means?
And then I'll hang up, and thank you for speaking with me, and thank you, Art, for accepting my call.
Oh, you bet.
All right.
Do you want to go ahead and read or interpret for us the second part?
Well, no.
What verse is she talking about?
She's gone.
I guess that which follows what you read.
Okay.
We went to the sun, and it says, everyone will differ in the interpretation.
High price is unguarded.
This is Nostradamus.
In other words, runaway capitalism is working, and none have prepared.
Then there's another verse that says, there will appear towards the north, not far from Cancer, the bearded star, and then it gives an indication that the Pope dies during that time.
Boy, have you seen the Pope lately?
Oh, he's in bad shape.
God, he looks terrible.
Yes.
I know that he has a deep desire to make it to the year 2000 millennium, but when you look at him... Well, I pray that he does, because I know he wants to.
It's going to take a miracle.
He is looking so fragile and so ill.
But this is very interesting, you see, that that would be in here for 1999, which would mean late summer or fall, that, you know, the bearded star No question about that.
There's a lot to it.
Now Mother Shipton has more to say about that, and it's kind of frightening what she actually has to say.
She talks about the dragon's tail is but a sign for mankind's fall and man's decline.
Now that's exactly what the Hopis say.
That's what the Bible has to say, no question about that.
The Bible makes references to the dragon, and of course that's a reference to Satan, but perhaps it might even be a reference to comets as well.
I think it is when you cross-compare a lot of the things.
Now it says in Mother Shipton, for those who live the century through in fear and trembling, this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens, the bog and forest, and wild fens.
For storms shall rage and oceans roar when Gabriel stands on sea and shore.
As he blows his wondrous horn, old worlds die and new be born."
Now, this is exactly what the book of Revelation says.
All right, Nostradamus implies the same thing.
This is a time of chaos, where people were unprepared.
Capitalism being what it is, those who have are going to make a lot of money selling to those who have not.
That's a short-term profit, isn't it?
A very short-term profit, because as Mother Shipton says, a vast amount of mankind dies The Bible says the same thing.
You know, here's another thing I guess I wonder about.
I've interviewed Father Malachi Martin any number of times before he had a stroke that he continues to recover from, although it's hard now to get information on Father Martin.
He said, with regard to the Third Secret of Fatima, that it's coming soon, he said, He, of course, has actually advised and been at the side of two popes, and he has read the Third Secret of Fatima.
And Father Martin's remarks, and I think I'm not far off when I say this, about that, were that if you close your eyes and you imagine the worst thing that could happen to mankind, it's worse than that.
Yes.
And he would not expand beyond that, but that's what he said.
It is.
I had a very strange dream or vision.
I never forgot it.
It was very strange.
I was swinging in a swing, a big swing on a tree.
The weather was beautiful.
The sky was blue.
The grass was green.
The wind was blowing.
As I was swinging back and forth, I began to go higher and higher.
I went up over the tree.
Came back down, and when I came back down, everything was a total disaster.
It was black everywhere.
What I remember about it most of all was the absolute hopelessness of the scene that I found myself in.
Everything was just demolished.
And I just assumed that that is a portrait of the disaster that mankind awaits.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hello.
Hello, Art, and hello, Stuart.
Hello.
I have a question and a comment.
Sure.
The question, are you aware of the comet Hakatek and Hayataki?
You mean Hayataki and Helbop?
Hayataki and Helbop crossing in the head of Algol In the constellation of Persis?
No.
April the 11th of 96 and 97?
Well I knew that they passed or traced a really interesting message through the heavens and of course there were some in 1996 for example there were four major signs for the nation Israel that were written in the heavens.
Yes.
And they had two blood moons Over to the whole earth with the blood moon.
Right.
And one occurred on Passover, which is the first major Jewish feast.
The last blood moon of 96 occurred on Tabernacles, which is the last Jewish feast.
And that spells out, of course, I Am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.
And the Japanese comet appeared on March 24th and 25th.
At the same time, there was a conjunction of Mars, Mercury, and Saturn.
And, of course, that occurred in the constellation Pisces, and that, of course, is the fish.
And if you go into the meanings of the constellations, it's very interesting that the Japanese comet spelled out, the one who paid the price, that covers, he comes for his sheepfold to deliver the captives.
Does that help you, caller?
Yes, but I have a strange comment to make.
Yes.
So bear with me.
If you will give me your phone number where I can reach you, I would like to speak to you off the air at some point.
Sure.
I am the Antichrist.
Oh, I know you then.
My birthday is April the 11th.
April the 11th.
The number 11 is judgment.
Well then, if you're really the Antichrist, you ought to be able to tell us exactly what's going to occur.
We face the total extinction of all life on the Earth due to a coming extinction cycle of events.
It's the same type of cycle that killed the dinosaurs in the past.
At each of the past mass life extinctions, certain numbers of people have been taken to replant the Earth by the ancient future generations.
Time travel is real.
And they are the watchers of the Scriptures.
Alright, well it sounds like you and I need to have a longer talk at another time.
In the meantime, in case the Antichrist or any regular folks want to contact you, Stuart, how do they do it?
Okay, 1-800-257... Wait a minute... 1-800-257... 2-6-7-4... 2-6-7-2, I'm sorry.
Wait a minute.
I didn't know you had a...
1-800-257-2674.
2672.
2674.
Or 2672, I'm sorry.
I don't even know my own number.
2674.
2672.
So that's 1-800-257-2672.
And what are they greeted with at that number?
Okay, if it's late at night, you will be greeted with a tape machine.
Otherwise, it'll be Best Video Productions, and a real live person will be on there.
All right.
And they can write us at P.O.
Box 69, Wheeler, W-H-E-E-L-E-R, Wisconsin, 54772.
Or they can come visit our website.
We have a lot of information about lots of things on there.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hello.
Hi.
Am I on now?
You are.
Oh.
Happy birthday, Art, from Andre in North Hollywood.
Thank you, Andre.
I just had to call in because I'm kind of a Nostradamus freak myself, and so many people come on your show and they quote all of these different lines and everything, and it's like they skip from one to the other, and they're not, like, real precise on, like, what century and which quatrain and stuff like that.
I got really going on this 1999 thing, because obviously when he mentions a date, it's something pretty serious.
I seem to concur with everything he's saying with Stuart.
We're definitely in for some really rough times, so much so that I've created a CD which I've sent to Art.
I guess it'll be like a birthday present.
He hasn't received it yet.
Thank you.
I'm just kind of concerned, because he talks about this King of Terror, but the way I translated the word, he says, Un grand roi d'effrayer.
And that word can mean not just terror, but to effray, or to fray, like something falling apart, or falling apart almost like a fabric.
And then he goes on to say in the third line, resurrecting the great king of Anglemois.
A lot of people have undone that and come up with Mongols, which it does indeed spell
and it makes sense in French, particularly the colloquial French that he used in Provence
at that time.
But it also spells Suleiman and I did some anagramming and lexagramming with it.
I came up with so many different things that it's like I'd almost rather like sit back
and just see what's going to happen rather than try and say.
And also, like you mentioned in the year 1999, the seventh month, and actually I've kind
of noticed it's not in there and a lot of other people have translated it in the year
Color, color, color, color.
Hold on.
We're at a break point.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Stuart, hold on.
Everybody hold on.
We'll be right back.
Thank you for watching.
You've got me thinking that I'm wasting my time.
Going way down.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got me thinking that I'm wasting my time, going way down.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'll tell you a song before I get off the floor, going way down.
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Good morning, everybody.
And by the way, as you're reading the latest about Keith on the Shady Pines site, you might peruse the rest of the lawsuits.
zero three this is close to close to him with our battle on the
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good morning everybody and by the way as you're reading the latest about keith
on the shady pines sites you might peruse the rest of the uh... the lawsuits
as you know there are several john does
yet to be named I'm here to tell you this morning that we're getting very close to the naming of those John Doe's and you'll know where this came from and we're going to get the answer about why.
Believe me, we're close to the answer about why.
So stay tuned.
Then there's one other thing that I've got to get out to you very quickly and I'm just gonna blurt it out, and you can check it out for yourself.
When the Russians went into Kosovo, without apparent warning, there began a transmission.
Actually, two transmissions.
One transmission is coming from Guam.
And the other is coming from Cyprus.
And my information sources tell me this transmission is being made by MI6, the intelligence organization, Britain MI6.
It is a station on Guam called Cherry Ripe.
And they do not identify themselves.
They merely come up And I'm going to give you the frequency or frequencies.
I'm going to give you three of them and I want you to monitor and tell me what you hear.
It may well be that after my announcing this, they'll move.
But what we believe we're hearing is MI6.
They do not identify.
They simply begin a transmission by playing some music called the cherry picker.
If they do that, The transmission is from Cyprus.
If the beginning tune is Pop Goes the Weasel, then it's Guam.
In other words, MI6 on Guam is called Cherry Ripe.
And again, for music played at the beginning, titled The Cherry Picker, you're listening to Cyprus.
If it's Pop Goes the Weasel, It's Guam, and then they will begin reading code groups.
A British woman, or a woman with a British accent, begins reading a series of numbers.
This is occurring on 22-108 MHz.
Upper sideband, that's 22-108 MHz.
All of these are, I'm giving you our upper sideband.
I heard it earlier today on 22-108.
Pointed the beam toward Guam, and indeed that is the source of the signal in that part of the Pacific, no question.
A 21.866 would be another frequency, and 17.499, it's been heard on all of those frequencies.
Now, not only did I record that code group, it's an obvious code group, A woman simply reading a series of numbers, and I would play it for you, but we have our legal department checking into whether I can play this.
Now, I think I should be able to, because it is in the clear, on the shortwave band, and it's an obvious secret government kind of thing.
However, erring on the side of caution, I'm not going to play it for you tonight.
We're going to get a legal opinion on whether I can do that or not.
In the meantime, listen yourself.
These frequencies open during the day.
Listen yourself.
Again, 22108 MHz, 21866 MHz, and 17499 MHz.
All upper sideband.
0.08 MHz, 21.866 MHz, and 17.499 MHz, all upper sideband. I think you will find it absolutely
intriguing.
Stuart, we're back again with our caller.
Caller, thank you for hanging in there and go right ahead.
Okay.
Anyhow, so this 1999 thing really started bugging me because I started looking into it.
So I thought, well, maybe it meant seven months of bombing from the air.
And if you stop and think, we started bombing Kosovo or Yugoslavia or whatever, Serbia.
Around, you know, April or so.
So then for 79, then all of a sudden it stops.
So I think, well, maybe that's not it.
But then again, we've been bombing Iraq since the beginning of the year.
So maybe it could be seven.
And did you notice how today the official propaganda ministry of the United States looked for a new villain?
It's like they clicked on the screen and popped Ben Laden back to the surface and everything on alert all around the world.
So you're definitely an intense thing.
But anyhow, I want to get your uh... spin on the angle more character stewart and then all
along it often with the way you have to think
so i'm not i'm not sure that i i caught located on the third line of the of quatrain not entry ten
quatrain seven-year resurrecting the great king of angle more
i think that it's probably referring to someone in the oriental
area which the bible says does in fact not only resurrect
but makes a move they're simply called kings of the east and uh... comes into the holy land
uh... comes across the friday's three friday's rivers dried up and it's
probably a reference to that group i would think because most of the most does get into
uh... that a little bit on other quatrain
And that would be my analysis.
I don't know who exactly it would be, who the leader of the group would be, but it's definitely going to come from, I believe, that area.
Yeah, it's a pretty scary prospect.
And the timing is perfect.
I don't know any other way to put it.
There is a hidden time code, for example, in Psalm 90.
And it's incredible how it works itself out, and the accuracy of it.
Stuart, are you talking now about the Bible Code?
Now, because there is something in here that I read earlier that you wrote to me about the Bible Code confirming... Really?
Yes.
Yes, they put in some dates.
This Bible Code thing is computerized.
Are you familiar with it at all, Art?
Certainly, vaguely.
In other words, The concept is that if you take a computer and have it go to work on the Bible, there are messages within the text of the Bible, messages that predict all kinds of things, like the assassination of President Kennedy and on and on and on, and of course a lot more dire predictions for all of us, that sort of thing, that mathematically it has been, they say, proven that these messages are real.
It's either that or the 100 monkey thing.
I don't know, but that's the extent of my knowledge with regard to the Bible code.
You want to expand on that?
Well, actually all it is, is what you were saying, and what they do is they use what they call skip coding.
In other words, you might skip 20 letters and pick up every 20th.
Right.
You might pick up every 5th.
they work through the entire text in that manner and it's incredibly accurate
what they're finding. I question some of the use for the Bible code but what's
interesting is that a group fed in certain dates and it came up with a
Columbine shooting on the very day that happened. July the 5th is supposed to
be all it says on that date is terror and then the next date is September 11th
which is the Jewish feast day Rosh Hashanah and it indicates not only terror
but upheaval, social disorder, refugees, something quite terrible happens.
Now the Psalm 90 code, I stumbled into it quite by accident You take Psalm 90 and you start at the end of it and read backwards.
You take each verse and just read it normally, but you start at the last verse and you end up at the first verse.
Yes.
And it has a hidden reference in there to 80 years for Israel in the Middle East.
And what's interesting about it is that the prophet Haggai said that the foundation for the Lord's Temple Would be laid on the 20th and the 4th day of the 9th month.
It's not a foundation stone, but the foundation of everything.
Well, it just so happens that General Allenby retook Jerusalem on December 9th, 1917, on the 20th and the 4th day of the 9th month.
May I ask a general question?
Yes.
With respect to the Bible Code, this is the question that has always plagued me, and that is, Why would a document the size of the Bible, the Word it is said of God, contain meanings that it would be difficult for man to decipher, or that it would take a computer for man to decipher?
The Word was supposed to be pure, unadulterated, and not difficult to understand nor decipher.
Well, that's a very good question, and I believe the answer is what you're saying.
is that the Bible is written so that the average man, woman, or child can simply read it.
Yes.
It does require sitting down and studying it.
I don't deny that.
But I think the Lord also knew that as mankind reached his apex in technology, that the computer would come into existence and we would have a group of people that are more scientific More understanding things from Messiah and prove it to me, that sort of thing.
And so, by using this, actually, the Bible is being proved to be a book that was certainly not written by human hands.
Because no human being could arrange the text.
Yeah, not possibly.
I mean, there is no way.
If the Bible code is real and accurate, then it could not have been done by human hands.
It simply could not have been.
That's right.
And so what we're dealing here, in reality, is an alien text from our perspective on planet Earth.
Somebody else wrote it.
And whoever wrote it was extremely intelligent.
Far superior than anything we could do.
A mathematical genius, as it were.
No.
If you have a group of people that are scientifically orientated, who are looking for hard proofs, they have it.
All right.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Stuart Best and Art Bell.
Good morning.
Amen to that last statement.
This is Dave Cullen from San Jose.
The last time Father Malachi Martin was on the show, he was discussing the And I called in, and I asked him, you know, Father, if I read Revelations 12 through 14, would I be close?
And he said, well, yes, you would, because Sister Lucia, who is one of the last living people on this earth that know the secret, said that's really what it was about.
Now, when I went back, I emailed him the next day, and this was before his illness, And I got an email back from the people who represent him.
They said, it's not necessarily Revelations 12-14, he misstated it.
It was really Revelations 8-12 that he was talking about in the Third Secret of Fatima.
And this ties into Comet Lee, because when you read Revelations 8-12, it starts off on, obviously, Revelations 8 with Yes, absolutely.
In fact, the Bible actually makes an indication that there are at least two, possibly three, asteroid or comet direct hits.
And if you go into the time codes, you see the timing is correct.
It's amazing, because, you know, the BBC, about two days ago, they were tracking an asteroid, and Art mentioned it on his show, and all of a sudden they lost it.
You're referring to Comet Lee?
No, now, okay.
Yes, yes, Comet Lee, that is Comet Lee, and indeed, the Millennium Group, earlier in the show, I don't know whether you heard it.
Yes, I surely did.
They said there were several months of missing data.
Not only that, Art, it's not only comet Lee, and the BBC thing, and I'll fax it to you a few days ago, now I'm talking about an asteroid now, that they have been tracking, that was headed towards Earth, and I'm not lying here... No, no, no, I know what you're talking about, and it's going to miss, but then they're not so sure about the next time.
Right.
Right?
But you see, here's the problem.
Go ahead.
They're predicating everything on normal law, you see.
If the natural law is altered, those all don't mean anything.
And that's why, when I turned on the show tonight, when you were talking about Thomas Lee and Father Martin, which is so very surprising how everything seems to tie back into itself.
And he was talking about the Third Secret of Fatima, and as Art was saying, It's going to be more devastating.
You know, you could times it by 10 and you're not even close to understanding it.
And then all of a sudden they emailed me back and said, well, it's not really Revelation 12.
That's the end part of it.
Read Revelation 8 and that's how it starts.
And Revelation 8 is nothing about comet or let me say there's something from outside of space.
And the timing is perfect.
That's what I'm saying.
I have nothing more.
I'm sorry.
I appreciate the call, sir.
Thank you.
The timing is perfect, huh?
Yes.
Actually, if you go into that Psalm 90, it says that Israel will have 80 full years.
And then she enters a period called soon.
If you date it where Haggai dates it, from December 9, 1917, you come out to December 9, 1997, would be her 80th year.
Then we move into a period called soon.
That period of soon cannot be more than nine years in length, because then it would say that Israel's lifespan would have been four score plus ten, or 90 years.
So it's nine years, most likely.
So you can terminate it, I believe, at around December 9, 2006.
Now most scholars claim that the time of cleansing or purification or whatever, It's approximately seven years in length.
It just builds as time goes on.
If you back that off seven years, you're in December of 1999.
You keep coming back to 1999, which is exactly what Nostradamus had to say.
So, Comet Lee is convenient and timely.
Now, I notice that you say in here, a Comet Lee may not mean anything at all, which the audience should understand.
But then again, you say it may mean Everything.
Yes.
And I base that on the time codes of the scriptures.
I base it on Nostradamus.
In your opinion, sir, Stewart, which is it?
Does it mean anything?
Or are you more inclined to think it means everything?
Oh, I think it means everything.
Whether it hits the earth or doesn't hit the earth, it's like a harbinger.
It's like hail bop.
Hale-Bopp spelled out a very definite message as it went through the heavens.
All right.
Hold it right there.
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
My guest is Stuart Best.
He is a Nostradamus kind of guy.
And I'll tell you what, Nostradamus has had a lot to say about, you know, this all bets off thing coming for 99.
Soon.
I'd like to read something to you briefly.
A Hopi elder speaks.
I'd like to read something to you briefly. A Hopi elder speaks.
You have been telling the people, Art, that this is the eleventh hour.
Now you must go back and tell the people that this is the hour.
There are things to be considered.
Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know your garden.
It is time to speak the truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
He then clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, this could be a good time.
Stuart Best will be right back.
Listen, tomorrow night I'm going to have a guest on human cloning.
Actually, there is in Montreal a conference going on Friday.
I make that Thursday.
Or is that Friday?
I think it is Check.
I think it's Thursday.
Friday.
It's Friday.
June 18th in Montreal.
So tomorrow night certainly will be appropriate.
It's Friday the 18th in Montreal.
And I am going to have a PhD here, a scientific director of clone aid.
Which is the first company in the world to offer human cloning.
CloneAid offers an opportunity to parents with fertility problems or homosexual couples to have a child cloned from one of them.
This same conference in Montreal is going to be attended by, for example, Dr. Richard Seed.
So tomorrow night we're going to talk a bit about cloning.
We're going to try and get Richard Hoagland in here, too, and I can't tell you at this point which hour that is going to be.
It's a little bit up in the air, but we're going to get Richard on the air as well.
And then on Tuesday, next week, I'm going to have Ed Dames here.
Ed has a lot to say.
I talked to Ed earlier today, and I don't really want to give away what's coming, but that'll be Tuesday night, Wednesday morning of next week.
Once again, Stuart Best.
Stuart, welcome back.
Well, thank you.
I wonder how you feel about what I just read from the Hopi elders.
I think he's absolutely right.
What the Hopis teach, basically, is the world speeds up and gets more and more chaotic.
The individual must detach and slow down.
And, of course, the search for truth is an inward search that everybody has to go through.
If they're going to find it.
And so that's basically I think what they're saying.
Slow down.
Smell the roses.
Take a good look around.
And if you actually would do that, it's not necessarily going to be such an awful time.
No, I found the last line very interesting.
That he clasped together his hands and said it may be a good time.
Yes.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
It was Stuart Best.
Is it me?
Yes, you.
Hello, hi Art Bell.
Hi there.
I sent you a fax a long time ago from Guntersville, Alabama.
Yes, ma'am.
I don't know if you received it or anything.
No, that's a hard answer to give.
I know.
I sent you a fax a long time ago.
Well, I sent it to you, like, maybe a month ago.
Right, but... Maybe a month ago, but anyway... Without knowing the content, or... Well, basically, I just basically said thank you for having the show.
I work at a radio station out here.
Oh!
And we have you on our AM and It's nice, I mean, to come home and actually hear a conversation.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Besides music, but that's besides the point.
I hear you, yes.
My biggest question is, I mean, I do not doubt anything this man is saying, Stuart.
I don't doubt anything that he's saying, but the one thing that... I'm studying metaphysics and I'm really at the bottom of the ocean line of studying metaphysics with a philosopher and also a priest.
Here in Guntersville, Alabama.
The big question is that, you know, you have Nostradamus, which he was a man.
I know we're all a part of God, that great divine spirit, right?
But even in the Bible, and forgive me for not knowing the quote, it even says the angels don't know when the end's going to be.
Now, here's these angelic forces.
They're right next to the big man, you know what I'm talking about?
But a part of me does believe What this man is saying, what Stuart is saying about all these prophecies coming to effect, my question is, has Nostradamus ever been wrong?
I want to know if he has a webpage or a web address that maybe we can look at this information and so forth, because I'm really interested.
The answer is yes, Nostradamus has been wrong.
Do you want to elaborate where you found him to be wrong, Stuart?
Well, he's been wrong on a number of instances of specific prophecies, but basically it's a percentage.
How do I word this?
Most of your prophets outside of the Scriptures, now the Scriptures make an exclusive claim, I have to make sure that that is understood, that others do not make.
The Scriptures make the claim that their prophecies are 100% accurate 100% of the time.
I don't know of any other prophet that actually makes that kind of a statement, and I'm using the word prophet rather loosely.
There are visionaries, mystic seers, whatever you want to name them.
On an average percentage, though, Nostradamus probably is hitting around the average of 80-85% correct.
Perhaps that's good enough to cause me to listen.
Well, yes, it's well above 50%.
Now, the caller is right in one sense, that it's an analysis of prophetic scripture or seer's writings, whatever you want to say.
And so from that analysis, we make a logical deduction.
Now, I'm not saying that exactly that 1999 is definitely the year.
It may be.
And it's looking like it could well be.
And I think the The odds are rapidly growing because of the anomalies we're seeing in the sun, the rapid changes we're seeing here on earth on the weather, earthquakes, volcanic activity that is rising, that we are definitely entering into a period that is the beginning of the end, and almost all the prophets agree.
Not only biblical, but across the board.
And it appears to me that there are two phases to this, principally a war, major earth changes, and then the setting up of what the Bible would refer to as the Antichrist system, or we would call kind of a false millennium or a false golden age.
Maybe the guy who called earlier.
And then that's terminated by an actual polar shift.
You see, you could have a partial polar shift that would rearrange continents, etc., etc., and a comet could easily do that.
Yes.
Or an asteroid.
Well, if a comet, as was described by the Millennium Group earlier, produced a CME large enough, the Earth's magnetic field, theoretically, could go to zero.
Mm-hmm.
Following that, there could be, indeed, a shift partial or complete.
That's right.
So, it's kind of like In Star Trekville, shields are down.
Yes.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
I'm Brad from Poulsbo, Washington.
Hi, Brad.
And Stuart, I'm really kind of confused.
Guys, please forgive it.
But has the Millennium Group reported or found A comet that is heading in this general direction?
No.
No.
And they clearly stated that, I think, tonight when they were on the air.
They have found a comet.
We think we know, and they agree with NASA with regard to what we think we know about its direction now.
It would miss Earth by a very great margin, 77 million miles.
What they disagree with NASA on is what a comet is, A, and B, what effect it will have when it passes at the closest point to the sun.
That's what they're saying.
Oh, well, the reason that I am asking is because I have a 10-inch reflector, Mead Optics, and it's fairly good.
And on the 4th and again on the 8th, when it was clear out here, I We're seeing something just below the orb of Mars, first on one side and then on the other, because of Mars' motion.
However, the question has to do with, are we talking about in that general direction?
This is approximately 11 p.m.
my time.
It would have been probably about 1 o'clock your time over there.
Okay, Stuart?
I'm not sure.
I'd have to get out the star charts and take a look.
But I do know that they have said that this comet could possibly be seen along the horizon lines in the northern hemisphere.
And it's in the northeast, I believe.
This is just about, I'd say between 3 and 5 degrees below the plane of the ecliptic.
You know, it's nothing we're going to be able to give you an answer on right away, sir, but we'll look.
Is that okay?
Yeah, thank you very much.
All right, thank you.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hi.
Yes, good morning, gentlemen.
With regard to natural law, it's been my observation that there's no such thing as accidents.
I'm doing research by In one particular book looking at all aspects of world societies and I'm very critical of them and what I see is that everything that we sell, that we do, seek and create is incongruous to harmony and balance and I'm thinking as I'm writing the document that we're doing just about everything wrong and I'm wondering if I can draw an analogy to smoking on very many levels that
If everyone is smoking, then why in the world isn't the world kicking back?
Why isn't it cleansing according to natural law?
So, I'm not surprised from that aspect.
As a matter of fact, listening to your program is strengthening my belief in the wisdom of the universe.
But the question is specifically, who's left standing, where and what?
Well, that's an interesting question.
Yes, it is.
Most scholars, I think, would say that probably the central landmass of the world would lie right around the Great Pyramid area.
If there is going to be a polar shift of any degree, it would probably pivot most likely around that area in the area of Israel, Jerusalem.
Those that are in the area of the pivot Probably do not suffer a whole lot of damage.
But as you go outward from that area, you have almost total disaster.
You have to remember you've got high speed winds and a shift.
You have got huge tsunamis that would develop because water is liquid.
It's not going to necessarily stay in the ocean beds.
It's going to leave the ocean beds.
You would have tremendous earthquake activity, tremendous volcanic activity.
And generally, a general destruction.
Now, a minor shift would of course scale that back down.
Some of your prophets and your visionaries, I believe Gordon Michael Scallion is one that foresees a partial shift, which I believe, with the land changes, ushers in what I would simply call a false millennium.
And then comes the major shift sometime later, which terminates just about everything.
Which it would.
If you had a total polar shift in a very short period of time, say a day, you're talking of the speed of the crust is going about 600 miles an hour.
Yes.
And you know, what you have just said regarding hit one, hit two, in effect is exactly what the Hopi elders have been saying.
Yes.
Exactly what they've been saying.
And I'm convinced in my own mind that that's what the Bible says as well.
I think everything is converging on those Those areas that there's two different phases to this.
And one is to bring in a false millennium with a false messiah, and the other one is to terminate the entire works.
Okay.
Lester the Rockies, you're on the air with a scary Stuart Best.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning, sir.
Where are you?
I'm in Nanaimo.
Okay.
And I was just wondering if your guests have ever seen a movie with Orson Welles narrating it about Nostradamus?
Oh, the famous movie about Nostradamus with Orson Welles.
Yes.
At the end of the movie, he stated that he wrote the book to his son and that it could change.
It wouldn't be necessarily the way it's written.
Well, the way the quatrains are actually worded, they can be broadly interpreted.
But you have to remember what he was going through, too.
He was trying to avoid religious persecution.
Trying to avoid being killed?
Yes.
He's very specific.
There are a lot of religious people that are not too kindly towards people that don't believe as they do.
And throughout history, they've had a tendency to murder those that they don't appreciate, and he was trying to avoid that.
And so he did it in a very vague way.
All right.
Let's go to the first time caller line.
You're on the air with Stuart Best and Art Bell.
Good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
I'm okay.
I can barely hear you, sir.
You're going to have to yell at us.
Oh, okay.
Where are you?
I'm in Ashland, Oregon.
No, you're going to have to yell.
I mean yell.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I'll go down to the regular phone.
Oh, you're on some sort of portable or something?
Yeah.
So I'll be right there.
God save us from portable phones.
Some of them, the newer ones, 900 megahertz phones are pretty good.
Is that better?
Say it, say it again now.
Is it better now?
Yeah, a little bit.
Go ahead.
Okay, you are?
Yes.
Oh, hi.
This is Doug from Ashland, Oregon.
Yes, sir.
I am, for a number of years, was a student of and a friend of Paul Solomon, whom I'm sure both of you may have heard of, who was kind of an Edgar Cayce sleeping prophet and also a third generation Southern Baptist minister.
Yes.
You're going to have to really get to it quickly because, again, we're having a hard time hearing you.
Okay.
Well, his point was that... There we go.
His point was that Jesus said in the New Testament that in the end time the people of Nineveh will come to testify.
And if you go back into the Old Testament, into the book of Jonah, the purpose of Jonah going to Nineveh as a prophet was to change history, not to fulfill history.
A prophet has failed if his prophecy comes true in that regard.
Yeah, that's a very, very interesting point.
That prophecy, Stuart, is a warning.
Of what may be, what could be, not necessarily what is going to be, and that a prophet fails when his prophecy comes true.
What do you think of that?
Well, that's actually true from a biblical viewpoint.
There are many, many warnings issued that could be changed.
For example, it says of Babylon, we would have healed Babylon, but she herself would not be healed.
In other words, she could have been, and she wanted to.
None of it could have been destroyed, but she chose to repent and not be destroyed.
Now, there is, however, within the overall prophetic picture, and we're talking about Scripture here, in which God has an agenda and a program, and He's going to terminate it at a very specific point in time, and He says, I have proposed it, I'm going to do it.
And nobody's going to know it.
Kind of like on your computer where you hit close.
Sort of.
Hold on.
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will ever listen to the word of this man
And I'll be there in my eighties, too.
Put my words right by the window of my cell.
And the people down the street, hear them young gods they make.
And the band that's at it's morning, hear the words that it was borning.
And the place where the words of the prophets are written on the subway wall.
Tell them all, the streets.
Relevant, isn't it?
When they wrote it, they said it really doesn't mean anything, but I think it's like modern art.
When you listen to it, it does.
Okay, back now to Stuart Best in the stretch run here.
Stuart, you still hanging in there?
Oh, yes.
All right, let's go then.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hello?
Hello, Mr. Bell?
Yes.
How you doing, sir?
Fine.
I'm so happy to talk to you.
Are we live?
Well, I'm alive.
How about you?
I'm fine.
I'm alive.
I just wanted to say a couple of things.
My father passed away May 13th.
He suffered a... The doctors said that he had a irregular heartbeat.
Yes.
But on the death certificate it showed that he It's like a fish cage in the brain.
In other words, he didn't get oxygen.
But he had a major seizure.
I'm so sorry.
It's alright.
I know how it is, how tough it is.
This is the first thing for me.
I love your show.
I listen to you.
I'm really surprised that I got you.
I'm traveling right now through Lake Charles.
Are you listening to the program?
Yes, sir.
I listen to it all the time.
Well, we have Stuart Best on.
He's my guest.
Do you have any questions for him?
No, sir.
I really can't pick y'all up all the time.
It's in and out.
Oh, I see.
All right.
Well, listen, I appreciate your call.
Thank you very much.
And I'm sorry you weren't able to hear us in the present tense.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Stuart Best and Art Belheim.
Hi, how are you doing, Art?
Fine, sir.
This is Torin from San Francisco.
Yes.
And I would like to say that I've been listening to the show about prophecies and everything about Nostradamus, and one thing, one fact has been ignored, and that is all prophecies are not written in stone.
There are things that people can do to change them.
We were just talking about that, actually.
Yeah, it's the...
How should I put it?
The changeability, which is the factor of the future.
I think Yoda said it best, as a matter of fact, when he said, ìAlways in motion is the future.î These are possibilities that were handed down to seers and visionaries.
And I think that with all of the millennial hysteria, Y2K, everything coming out, I still say we can all bind together and change this, much as we're doing with Terrence McKenna.
Well, there's an element of truth to that.
Within the prophecies themselves, there are, of course, warnings.
But you also have to understand that God resides outside of time and space.
He created time and space, at least according to the Scriptures, which I believe.
Right.
And He simply watches what mankind decides to do.
And there are warnings that He gives, like Nineveh.
And he sent the prophet Jonah, who obviously didn't even want to go.
It had to be convinced.
But overall, you see, the Lord knew that had he not sent Jonah, for example, Nineveh would have been destroyed.
So he sent Nineveh to give the warning.
But overall, in the overall pattern of things, there is a beginning and there is an ending.
There is an alpha.
And when we're talking about the overall structure of prophecy, at least from a biblical point of view, we're talking about a concrete beginning and a concrete ending.
We're not actually coming up on an ending here.
We're coming up on a shift.
The millennial reign is totally different than what it was.
The way the Lord worded it was, it's the end of the age.
Not necessarily the end of the world, per se.
He says there's going to be a new heaven and a new earth.
It's restructured.
It's changed.
But within the overall pattern, there is a definite beginning, a definite end, and because he sits outside of time-space, he simply watches and records what mankind does, gives it to the prophets, and that's what the Bible is telling us.
And by that method, you can tell in advance What the nations are going to do.
And I believe that's probably why God says, well my prophets are 100% accurate all the time, because I gave them that information.
I'm outside of time and space.
I saw it happen.
It's history to me, because I'm outside of time and space.
But to you, you're living through time.
You see?
Big difference.
One is predictive.
The other is an absolute, and the two are combined in biblical prophecy.
How do you feel about the lead comet, as far as it being visible?
Do you consider that to be something that is an absolute, definite precursor?
Oh yeah, that's really a good question.
In other words, NASA, for example, is saying it may not even be visible to the naked eye.
Well, if they're wrong, And it's really very visible, and August 11th, that's the day of the sun going away for a while in parts of the Earth, right?
Right.
If it's really visible on that day, that then strengthens the probability or possibility that we're on track with Nostradamus' predictions.
If it's not visible, does that indicate the opposite?
That's right.
It may not even become a lead.
It might be another object that maybe they even know about it.
And they're not telling anybody like they did in the movie Deep Impact.
Or they don't know about it.
Or they don't know about it.
And it just kind of sneaks up on everybody.
The scriptures indicate that this thing comes as a snare.
The word snare is very interesting because nobody walks into a snare if you know it's there.
This is something that they do not No, is there, but for a short time prior to it, which is why the Lord says that the men's hearts fail them for fear.
Well, I can surely tell you this, that many times these near-earth collisions are not reported until a day or two after we've had our close encounter.
Yes.
And so they don't find them all.
In fact, they only find, I think, about one in ten Douglas Goldstein, financial planner & investment advisor, interviewed Jones on Arutz Sheva Radio.
rogue.
There is sort of a legitimate governmental reason probably for keeping some things to
themselves and so the government treads a very thin line as well as to what do we make
true or factual and release and what do we keep to ourselves.
Good morning.
How are you gentlemen?
Fine.
Good.
I got two short questions.
You guys got me to thinking about this, this Third Secret of Fatima.
Yes.
When is the Pope supposed to release that?
It's not like the day before, right?
It's my understanding, and Stuart, you can probably help out here, that it was supposed to already have been released, or it was supposed to be released a long time ago.
And successions of popes have decided not to release it.
Stuart?
Yes, that's absolutely right, and I think the reason they haven't released it is because it is so fearful.
But I agree with the caller that called up before and mentioned Revelation 8, that it most likely has to do, and there are Fatima associations that are kind of detached from the Roman Catholic Church, but issue papers and whatnot on the Fatima visions, and it's very interesting what some of them have to say, and almost all of them deal in astronomical things that are going on within the heavens, I should say.
The sun not operating, a comet hit, etc., etc., which is amazingly very close, of course, to Revelation Chapter 8, which talks about either a comet or an asteroid Impacting probably the Atlantic.
That's very scary.
It is extremely frightening from one viewpoint.
It's extremely exciting from another.
I have a hard time with the exciting part.
Well, you know, I hear this.
I mean, I hear prophets say it all the time, for example, that boy, isn't this exciting.
And boy, when we get over on the other side of this, things are going to be so much better.
The part they leave out is all the people that aren't going to be there.
Well, that's right.
I guess when I use the word exciting, it's probably a wrong choice of words.
Interesting, maybe.
And it certainly does kick up the blood pressure.
And quite a ways from a word like, say, terrifying.
Yes.
I don't think we can imagine At all, what is coming.
I really don't believe the human mind can comprehend it.
Maybe it's just as well.
Wes for the Rockies, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hi.
I'm calling you from East Los Angeles, KABC Radio.
Yes, sir.
Here's a comment.
You know, you made a thing about as it was before the days of Noah.
One of the things that occurred in the days of Noah was Nephilim.
Yes.
You know, interbreeding.
That's a pretty tall order, sir.
We've only got a few minutes left.
Pick your favorite.
The Rapture.
The Rapture?
how this fits into the coming age.
And number three, if you can enlighten us on the New World Order and all these groups
like Freemasonry.
That's a pretty tall order, sir.
We've only got a few minutes left.
Pick your favorite.
The Rapture.
The Rapture.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
The vast majority of Christians within the visible church are being taught that there
is a, what they call a pre-tribulational rapture.
In other words, it's to take place prior to what is known as Daniel's 70th week, which is a seven year long period of intense trouble on the planet.
I personally did not subscribe to that.
The scriptures teach only that a Christian is exempt from the wrath of God.
He is not exempt from the wrath of man.
He is not exempt from the wrath of Satan.
But he is exempt from the wrath of God.
It's no different than when we send an ambassador, say, to Yugoslavia.
If we were going to declare war, we would call our ambassadors home.
We don't declare wars anymore.
We just have them.
You got that.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Stuart Best.
Hi.
Hi, how are you doing?
Alright, sir.
I have actually a couple questions that aren't really specific.
One was basically on the Bible being written by aliens or extraterrestrials.
Is it possible that it could be written by the time travelers?
You know, instead of it being biblical, it could be more historical?
Well, it depends.
If you read the Bible, then there's certainly no indication I guess you could say that the Lord is a time traveler only because he sits outside of it and sees it all.
Another thing, to the guy that says he's the antichrist, I was also born on April 11th, and I don't consider myself to be, so I wonder how he came up with that.
Well, you're sure you're not related, right?
I'm sure.
And I find myself to be very spiritual as far as ways of peace and love.
That's exactly the kind of thing the Antichrist would say, you see.
Oh, you think so?
Does that make me the Antichrist?
No.
I'm just saying that's the kind of thing, in other words, the Antichrist, I am told, would come to us as a great savior.
And he would fool us.
But would he come as pretending to be a great savior?
Well, Stuart, would he come to us pretending to be a great Savior?
Yes.
The word anti means not only against, which is not quite so obvious on the surface, but rather in place of.
In other words, there is a peace, love, and a brotherhood of the Antichrist, and then there is the true peace, love, and brotherhood of Jesus Christ.
Listen, Pauler, don't worry about it.
Check your hairline.
Then if you find nothing, don't worry about it.
All right?
I'll come back.
Yeah, I'll see you later.
Well, Stuart, it has been a great pleasure again having you on the air.
Well, thank you.
If you have anything you would like to plug, plug away.
Well, I guess if your people are interested in earth changes, we just released our latest video called Mega Earth Changes.
In the coming Polar Shift, it's a two-hour video.
We'll be shipping next week.
Oh.
And it pretty much covers what we have covered tonight, only in great depth.
All right.
And they can reach us on our website, too, at www.trutru, drop the E, I-N-S-I-G-H-T dot com.
Or a phone number?
1-800-257-2672 or they can write us at PO Box
Box 69, Wheeler, W-H-E-E-L-E-R, Wisconsin, 54772, and make it the best video productions.
All right.
Done deal.
It's a great pleasure having you on, Stuart, and I know we're going to have you on again.
We'll all keep kind of a wary eye, cocked on comically.
Very good.
Well, thank you for having me, Art.
Thank you, and good night.
All right, everybody.
There is just one more thing that I wish again to get on the air.
If you would like the latest on Keith Rowland's situation, you can go to my website.
And you know what it is.
www.artbell.com.
Keith is in the hospital.
So he's not able to change anything on the website right now.
Now, if you will simply go to the newest site additions, about a little more than halfway down you'll find something that says updated Shady Pines website opens click on that and then when you get over there simply click on the latest information posted here says Keith Rowland hospitalized with heart problem latest information posted here and if you follow
The Yellow Brick Road, I think you'll come to some great understanding about what's going on and why.
For now, that's it.
I'm Art Bell from the high desert.
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