Hal Lindsey, bestselling author of The Late Great Planet Earth (1970) and 16 prophecy books, warns of escalating global crises—wars, famines, earthquakes, and Hollywood’s disaster films—as "birth pangs" signaling Jesus’ return, while dismissing secular prophets like Will Loy or UFO theories as speculative. He insists biblical prophecies, including Jerusalem’s conflict in March 2024, are historically accurate, framing the Antichrist as a European messianic figure ruling from Rome via economic allegiance (666) and supernatural deception. Lindsey rejects evolution, cloning, and ideological interpretations of the Antichrist, emphasizing salvation only through Christ while critiquing science’s ethical drift and U.S. shifting support from Israel amid rising tensions. [Automatically generated summary]
That line really does send a little chill down my spine.
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As a matter of fact, Hal Lindsay is coming up in a moment.
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Who is Hal Lindsay?
Many of you, most of you probably know him.
Some may not.
He is recognized as the most respected prophecy teacher in the world and author of 16 best-selling books, including The Late Great Planet Earth, Blood Moon, Apocalypse Code, The Final Battle, and Amazing Grace.
Mr. Lindsay, named the best-selling author of the decade by the New York Times.
That's pretty non-trivial.
Was born in Houston, Texas.
His first book, The Late Great Planet Earth.
Listen to this now.
Was published in 1970.
Was the best-selling religious book of all time, of all time, selling more than 28 million copies with total sales exceeded only by the Bible itself.
Mr. Lindsay is one of the few authors ever to have three books on the New York Times bestseller list at the same time.
That's amazing.
After his education at the University of Houston, Mr. Lindsay served in the U.S. Coast Guard during the Korean War graduated from the Dallas Theological Seminary, where he majored in the New Testament and early Greek literature.
After completing seminary, Mr. Lindsay served for eight years on the staff of Campus Crusade for Christ, speaking to tens of thousands of students on major university campuses throughout the U.S. He's been on gazillions of different shows.
As a matter of fact, I think he's been on, let's see, PTLs, TBN's PTL, Talk America, Arts and Entertainment Channel, Discovery Channel.
Before we get off into anything else, I have been, of late, following Jerry Falwell rather closely.
Now, he's an interesting fellow, this televangelist.
And he said not long ago, just about a week ago or two, that the Antichrist was alive on earth now and probably was a Jewish man, but here now, alive on earth.
And that Jesus would be back, he said, in about 10 years, within 10 years.
And he had to end up, he turned around just now, apologized to the Jewish community for saying that.
But then tonight, on Reuters News, the 1, 2, 3, 4, fourth item is Falwell calls Teletubby gay.
Reverend Jerry Falwell is trying to out Tinky Winky, suggesting that the character on television's popular Teletubbies is gay.
And he goes into reasons why he thinks that, has the voice of a boy, but carries a purse.
He's purple, the gay pride color, and on and on and on.
And I'm wondering what's going on with Jerry Falwell, and you must at least hear these things.
You know, I'm Pretty much of a layman, so you're going to have to put up with me that way, but I'm also pretty much of a libertarian.
And I guess my political view is that what people do, you know, good or bad in the privacy of their own home, is their own business.
And if they get sick or they, you know, something comes of it, well, it's their own doing, and they know what they're doing, but it's none of my business unless it affects me.
And then, of course, it is.
But I would imagine your view would extend somewhat beyond that.
Yes, I would say this, that I start getting riled up and concerned when they start trying to determine what other people want to do about it.
I mean, if they keep it to themselves at home, then, you know, I don't think God called me to go after gays.
But I think if they start getting in the legislature and trying to force their will on other people, then just like any other strong lobby group, I'd be opposed to it.
In other words, a lot of preachers seem to suggest that God is a vengeful thing, a vengeful entity who will cause us to burn in hell and damnation and fire and all the rest of it if we don't obey the top ten and more.
I just have never been able to work myself into thinking of God in that way as a vengeful entity.
I wrote a book, which you may be aware of, called The Quickening.
Yes, I'm aware of it.
In it, I made very layman-like observations, talk show observations, that everything, socially, economically, politically, every aspect of human life appears to be speeding up, that events seem to be speeding up exponentially, and that we are racing toward something now.
I wish I did, because I'm sure it's extremely comforting, but I don't.
All I have is a layman's feeling, talk show guys' feeling, that something is coming.
A big change is coming.
I, too, have said, I don't think it's the end of the world because the world is not going to end, but we are making it a very difficult place to remain for human beings.
And it's possible that we could be evicted, I suppose.
Well, you know, I thought it was fascinating that you noticed that things were speeding up.
In the late Great Planet Earth, and as I more greatly elaborate in Planet Earth, the final chapter, which is my latest book, I show that there's an exact scenario of events that were predicted that would all come together in what prophecy calls the last days.
And it doesn't mean the last days for the end of the world, but the last days before Jesus Christ comes back to the earth.
And I call it the birth pang effect because Jesus gave many prophecies of things that would occur in the world.
And then he said they would be like birth pangs.
Now, when a woman is about to have a baby, you get the birth pangs in the abdomen that increase in frequency and intensity.
And the things he said that would all come together in concert with each other.
In other words, if they were not all coming up in the same time frame, it wouldn't be significant.
But he said that there would be religious deception.
There would be wars and rumors of wars.
That's his way of saying hot wars and cold wars.
He said there would be ethnic group rising against ethnic group, nation against nation.
And then he said there will be great earthquakes in various places.
He said there will be famine.
There will be plagues.
There will be global weather pattern changes with superstorms.
Now, if you look at what's happening right now, even Hollywood is cashing in on this because some of the most successful box office attractions are the disaster movies.
But, you know, I've got statistics in my latest book, Planet Earth, the Final Chapter, I've got statistics which absolutely show and prove that each one of these things he predicted is increasing in frequency and intensity in a level unparalleled.
And you know, there's another aspect of this scenario, Art.
You know, the key sign that these Hebrew prophets predicted would come would be the miraculous return of the Jewish people from a worldwide dispersion and that they would become a nation again, and be reborn as a nation, they would begin to flourish in spite of the nations around them trying to destroy them.
Well, if you look at the nations around them, they're all Muslim.
They're all trying to destroy them.
Sure.
And it said they would gain control of old Jerusalem, and that would be another big sign.
What do you think is going to happen when Yasser Arafat, in March, I believe, declares a sovereign state and declares Jerusalem to be that sovereign state's capital?
And this is exactly what the Hebrew prophets predicted would happen.
In fact, the prophet Zachariah, who wrote 500 years before Christ, predicted that Jerusalem would be the trigger that sets off the greatest war in history.
But he did predict that, or his prophets predicted, that there would come a time of great instability and lawlessness and that a lot of this would be caused by religions.
You look at history, some of the greatest crimes in history have been motivated by religion.
Well, what about those who would express the view that Muslims, that Catholics, that people of all kinds of faiths are really recognizing the same thing, and that is the existence of a Creator.
Can only the Christians be right?
Can only the Bible be correct?
Well, these are the kind of questions, by the way, that got me thrown out of Sunday school.
You know, the only thing I can say is that God, if he was going to take the trouble to communicate with man, he would give us some sort of a secure way of knowing that it was from him.
And if, as the Bible claims, God stepped out of eternity into time and became a man in the person of Jesus Christ so that he could then bear the wrath of his own justice against man and take it in our place, such a terrible deed as that.
I mean, I would think that he would want to make it known, and first of all, and secondly, that if he would go to such an extreme measure in order to rescue man, then there must be something very terrible that he sees that we need to be rescued from.
And I believe that if this is all true, and I believe it to be true, then there can't be many ways to God because it's not based on good deeds or feelings or anything else.
God says, and I say God, this is what the Bible says, and I believe it is from God.
God says that man will never be acceptable to him on the basis of his good deeds, no matter how sincere he is, but only on the basis of the provision of pardon that he himself purchased for us by his own death.
I know, and there are many other religions who claim the same thing.
I'm not saying, "Look, I'm this guy that's found the right way and my way is the only way because my ego is involved." Yeah, because of what is said there.
Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth, and the life.
No one can come to God except through me.
And if I believe that, and I do, then it's he, and you have to realize he's the one who made the way possible at great cost.
So the way is open to everyone, and God says if anyone really wants to know him, they will find him.
Mike in Houston would like to know the follow-up question of you, and that is, do you believe it possible that the Antichrist may be alive and on the planet today?
Well, judging by the scenario that I've been talking about since the late Great Planet Earth came out, judging by that scenario and how it has rapidly developed in recent times, I believe he'd have to be alive because the Antichrist has to at least be, what, I'd say somewhere around 40 years old at the very least.
And since I believe all of this is coming, we're in the general time of it, I believe he'd have to be alive.
But, you know, there's a great deal said about this personality in the prophets.
And when I saw what they were going to do with it, I refused to be part of it or put my name on it because, you know, if they would have followed what the prophet said, it would have been a lot scarier and a lot more interesting.
Well, first of all, I would have made it couched in the right timeframe.
When this takes place, the man who is born is not going to know he's some sort of an evil seed, neither will it be manifested when he's born as a child.
I would have started with this man receiving a mortal wound and being pronounced dead, and then miraculously being raised back to life, because that's what is predicted.
And it's when this man is raised back to life, according to the prophets, he will be taken over, possessed by Satan.
But, you see, there's something very important to note here, according to what the prophets say about this.
He will not appear to be evil.
This is going to appear to be the best man that's ever lived.
And that would, in many ways, I mean, if you consider it now, that sounds like a pretty good thing since we all kill each other because of our different belief systems.
So that sounds like a pretty good deal, but I guess it's not, huh?
Yeah, this is why, you know, my co-host and partner, Cliff Ford, has just written a great book on this called Blood, Greed, and Money.
And this is a book that really, in simple terms, shows how money is being used to bring about the conditions for this person to come on the scene and assume control of it, and through that, bring a hegemony over the whole world for a short time.
Let me, for a second, digress to somebody I'm going to have on next week, now a very good friend of mine, Gordon Michael Scallion, is a lay prophet.
And there are many in Gordon's category, few at his level, but there are many lay prophets that are beginning to sound an awful lot like the people who talk about biblical prophecy.
I see so many parallels in what they say, and Native Americans say, and remote viewers say, and though they all are coming at this from some different perspective, they are roughly arriving at the same place in terms of what may lie directly ahead.
That's why what survived, we know to be true, because it was proven in history.
They would first make short-term prophecies as their credentials, and then they would have long-term prophecies, some of which have not been fulfilled yet.
Well, as long as they are following along with what it says, I would say yes.
But, you know, why go to someone with an 80% accuracy when you can go to someone with 100% accuracy?
I don't claim to be a prophet.
I am an interpreter of prophets that have proven themselves to be 100% accurate in history.
And I am simply, you know, laying out what they normally and literally say.
So, I'm not the only one, by the way.
If I were the only one that sees this scenario in the Bible, well, then I would say, you know, hey, I'm just one of the guys out there crying in the wilderness.
But there are people who see what I'm seeing since, well, in my studies three or four hundred years ago, they were seeing exactly the same things I'm seeing.
Everybody always wants to know about timelines, how close we're getting.
And we're going to take a break here.
And when we come back, Al, I'd like to ask you, press you, and see if you can talk to us about what's coming and then also when or approximately a wind.
No man shall know, but we all guess a lot.
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This is Coast to Coast again from the Kingdom of Night with Art Bell.
A lot of you have been waiting a long time for Hal Lindsay, so this is That Night to the Most Respected Prophecy Teacher in the World, Hal Lindsay, author of 16 best-selling books with very interesting titles.
The Late Great Planeter, Blood Moon, Apocalypse Code, The Final Battle, Amazing Grace, and of course his new book.
So let's talk a little bit about Bible prophecy.
Actually, Bible prophecy.
Let's really get down to it.
Is there any way, Hal, that you can estimate where we are in biblical prophecy and then project from that what may be ahead and how soon it may be ahead?
When Jesus predicted, you know, his scenario and said that these would be like birth pangs quickening together, increasing in frequency and density, he stepped back and he applied it.
He said, now learn the parable of the fig tree.
When its limb first becomes tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near.
Obviously, the point he was making is that you can know the general time of summer is near when the first leaves on the fig tree appear.
So I believe that prophecy began to be relevant as far as all of these things about the last days is concerned when Israel became a nation again in 1948.
So I believe myself that that's when things started and that people who saw that will still be alive when it all ends.
You know, I've said to my audience half-jokingly, you know, with a nervous little laugh, what if you woke up one day and every Christian you knew was suddenly gone?
I mean, just flat gone from the face of the earth.
You know, in the passage that promises this, the Greek word that's used is harpazo, which was a word for pickpockets.
It says that, you know, Jesus is going to descend in the clouds above the earth.
He's not going to come to the earth, and he is going to snatch up every living believer in himself and take them out before the unfolding of the final seven years of countdown before the earth is nearly destroyed by the Holocaust.
It went into, and this person asks, I wonder if the guff is empty.
Now, in the seventh sign, there was referred to the guff, or the place from which souls come.
And I believe that the storyline was that the guff essentially was empty, and that only a sacrifice of, you know, as depicted in that movie, of the mother for her child, could return the guff to a supply of souls.
Now, this is kind of a loose fit, but yesterday, for example, we had a story that three young children, three young girls, 11, 12, and 14, joined hands and jumped out of a 15th story window in Moscow and just committed suicide for no apparent reason whatsoever.
Now, we have children in this country that are killing children.
We have children that have no respect for life, their own or anybody else's.
We have a very unusual generation.
And I'm not saying it's all negative, but we do have a lot of what would almost seem to be soulless children out there.
And so I come back then to that movie and the concept of the guff.
They said, you know, there is so much corruption and greed that it is all about to end.
That is their belief, native belief.
And they would never in a million years come on radio programs or media programs of any kind, except that they are saying now that they believe the time is so near that they have absolutely no choice but to come forward.
And the suicide rate among their children is higher than any in the nation.
I mean, I don't discount the fact that these people are seeing this.
I think all around the world, people are coming, they're looking at the same developing phenomena that you and I are, and they find various means of seeing that this must be headed towards some catastrophic climax.
There's sort of a subliminal sense of impending doom.
You know, that's why I wrote Planet Earth, the final chapter, because what I did was really put together in chronological order all of these prophecies and how in the timeline of things they will be fulfilled.
And that's why I think it's one of the best things God's ever given me.
It's certainly the best writing I've ever done.
And I'm thrilled that it's out in all the bookstores now, even Barnes and Noble, all over the place.
Well, if you did that, then you must know that I was talking about it last hour.
I've got all these stories.
CNN ran a survey.
ZDNet ran a survey.
All these surveys are coming out now indicating that just half or under half of the people plan to withdraw at least half of what they've got in the bank.
Now, if only a tiny fraction of that actually occurred, whether one computer went belly up or not, our banks couldn't begin to fulfill the request for cash.
But we, in our studies, we saw that generally speaking, when a bank takes a deposit of $100, there's immediately an electronic message sent to the central banks, which then wires back the authority for them to loan $500, because for every $100 on deposit, they can loan $500.
Well, what I see in this, I mean, if there is a great disruption, I see a kind of a period of chaos that would be just perfect for the time of the Antichrist to rise.
But according to prophecy, we're not going to be the leaders.
It's very elaborate in its prediction of the leader of the West, and that's going to be this 10-nation consortium that will come out of Europe and be ruled out of Rome.
So I believe the coming together of this Euro dollar in January 1st was the last chain to bind them together into a union.
You know, in the 70s, I was called a false prophet because I said the Bible says that Europe's going to unite.
And I had a Catholic, I think it was a cardinal, but he was in Italy.
He wrote a book against me and said I was a false prophet.
And the main reason is because he said Europe will never unite.
I did have a chance to go to Shenzhen, the economic province, and then on up into China.
It was the scariest thing I ever saw in my whole life.
Hal.
You've never seen anything like it.
It's beyond your wildest imagination.
The amount of commerce that was going on, it would remind you, it would scare an American.
I mean, it would make our World War II preparations, when we cranked up industry, look like a slow-moving motion picture.
I mean, it was just, it was frightening.
And I came back and I told my audience, look, what's going on over there right now is so incredible that we're either going to join them or they're going to go rolling over us like a steamroller or over an ant economically.
You know, Japan, which is a pretty good indicator, Japan took a complete turnaround and began to invest heavily in China and even did something that was unprecedented, had the emperor apologize to them for crimes in World War II.
You know, I've watched for a long time the shift in the way people think in America.
It really got into high gear in the 60s when everything became relative.
There were no more absolutes.
That's right.
And so, you know, morality today is the 51% majority.
And as the general level of morality sinks, the whole thing goes down with it because what 51% thinks gets less and less.
I would say that the trial of Bill Clinton has been more a trial of the American people.
There's one thing that troubles me, though, and this is not speaking as a Christian or a religious person.
If you read the Constitution of the United States, it was written with the assumption that the majority of the American people would be honest and honorable.
I'm not at all thinking that it's going to be a picnic because I can just imagine how quickly we could go to the law of the jungle if there's no food left on the shelves of the supermarket.
We talk a lot about that on this program, and we have talked with a lot of people.
Tomorrow night is a prime example with Daniel Brinkley of somebody who was struck by lightning, his body caught on fire, his vital signs all went away for 20 minutes.
He was dead.
In every way we understand death.
And he came back.
Such things happen.
He came back with stories about where he was when he was gone.
Well, I believe the experiences are very real, but I begin to raise an eyebrow when they say, you know, it doesn't matter what you believe or anything like that.
What shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his soul?
What shall he give in exchange for his soul?
I don't think God is stupid.
I don't think God would have gone to such extreme means to redeem a man by dying in his place if there wasn't something horrible to be rescued from.
And then to make that pardon he purchased for us free to anyone who will just accept it.
He's not excluding anybody.
He's done every possible thing he can to make it free.
And so if a man rejects it, he's excluding himself.
And so, you know, I just, when I look at death, I look at something that is very permanent, very, you know, very scary, unless you have some assurance that you know where you're going.
I interviewed a young lady the other morning who, over a period of about two hours, gave the most remarkable story of an NDE I'd ever heard in my whole life.
It was a completely negative NDE house.
She went to hell.
People don't talk about these very frequently, and you wouldn't.
You can imagine.
True.
If you clinically died and you went to what appeared to be hell, you wouldn't come back and talk it up a lot.
But she did, and now others are beginning to do it.
And so, I don't know, I just guess I wanted to ask you about the whole NDE thing.
Some say nothing bad will ever happen.
Others say you will experience this full-life panoramic review, and you will feel every emotion and hurt that you inflicted on others as though it were your own, because it was yours.
You dispensed it, now you feel it.
And others say they've gone to hell.
And so are these NDEs worth pursuing from your perspective as a Christian?
We are entering a really interesting time where it's going to be possible, for example, they're about to do it now, where they would take a woman's unfertilized egg and fertilize It with her own genetic code and implant it, and you would end up with a perfect replica of that woman.
What are we doing here?
I mean, we're really edging toward the creative force ourselves, aren't we?
Well, I think we're getting into an area that we were never supposed to get into.
You know, I still remember about, oh, it's been almost 25 years ago, I heard a great Christian theologian named Dr. Francis Schaefer talking about the fact that scientists used to think, they used to ask the question, can it be done?
The opposite, of course, would be the scientist who would say, but the benefits for mankind, for example, and I've had a scientist say this, look, we are on the edge of being able to create, for example, a being who would be your exact clone without a brain.
No brain.
This would just be a sort of a living body parts factory.
Do you think, Hal, this is a very speculative question, that if we could get a sample of the blood of Jesus, and we had, of course, we have not yet quite unraveled the human genome.
We're getting very close.
But if we could compare the genetic structure of Jesus with that of mortal man now, would we find a difference?
This is why there's such great emphasis put on Isaiah 750 BC, he predicted that the Messiah would be born of a virgin.
Isaiah chapter 7, verse 14.
And so the reason for that is because he would have to have a human mother to be truly human.
But if he had a human father, he would have the same culpability for sin that all the others did.
And thus, he couldn't qualify to die for others because he'd have to die for his own sins.
so there can be no question about it the genetic structure would have to be You see, God is the father of the human nature of Jesus, according to the Bible.
So his genetic structure would be entirely different.
In the book of Acts, one of the last things Jesus promised his followers, his disciples who became known as apostles, he said, the things that I do, you will do also, and greater things than these you will do.
What he said is, because I go to the Father, and when I go to the Father, I will send the Holy Spirit to dwell in you.
See, he claims that it was the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, that dwelt in his human nature that did the works through him as he depended on God, just like any other man had to depend on God.
My guest is Hal Lindsay, and he's going to be back in a moment, and I promise we'll be much more heavily into the phones this hour.
Once again, here is probably the most respected prophecy teacher in the world, Hal Lindsay.
Hal, just to sort of finish up our conversation, and then I'm really going to go to these phones.
We discussed the fact that Jesus, if we could test it, if we could test his blood, would have a totally different genetic structure, or at least different in measurable ways than human beings would.
Now, human beings have souls.
I'm sure you embrace that concept.
We have souls, right?
So if we were to take a woman's unfertilized egg and fertilize it with her own genetic structure, and we produced an identical in every way being, would that being, as we understand it, have a soul?
It would not have been created from a union between a man and a woman.
It would have simply been created with science.
Would it be, as we understand, a human being to be with a soul?
Well, the image of God is that which makes us different from animals.
And the Bible speaks of God breathing life or giving life to animals, and it speaks of them with the same Greek word suk in the Greek and nefesh in the Hebrew.
So, you know, it speaks of them having that.
But what sets a big gulf between us is the fact that we have will, emotion, intellect, and moral reason.
That's the image of God in us.
And so there's a great difference between those powers that we have, personality, and what animals have.
I think that there will still have to be input from a human being, though.
In other words, there will still have to be critical input.
Now, I suppose that one of these things could go independent sometime.
That's what Terminator 2 and Terminator 1 was all about.
And also HAL and the 2001 Space Odyssey.
But I just, you know, I don't know all about it, but my understanding of the technology is that these things are a far cry from being able to go completely independent.
Well, they can have artificial intelligence, becomes somewhat self-aware, but still there has to be some input to keep them going.
I just have a couple of quick questions, and I'll jump off and listen.
My first one is this.
Myself personally, Hal, I do have a belief of the near-death experience.
Now, as you had said in your belief, which I do respect, that Christ is the only person in the flesh that's ever been or come back to life after being dead, correct?
Well, you know, and I have to say that, you know, I always come at things in this area from the Bible.
The Bible speaks of there being two sources of supernatural.
One is God, one is Satan.
And there are, I believe a person can genuinely die, and he can get experiences that are very real, but they may be coming from Satan.
And what better way to advertise a false confidence about death than to be given information while you're in that near-death experience and then come back and proclaim you don't have to be afraid of death.
You know, it's not all that bad.
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So you don't feel that, I mean, as a lot of people who have experienced NDEs in the past, that some believe that we all pretty much go back to our own point of origin after we die, no matter what you've done or who you are, do you believe, in your opinion, that that's true or false?
We had such a serious discussion one night about people that he referred to as perfectly possessed by the devil.
And when he said perfectly possessed, he meant people that we revere, people that are successful in business, particularly very successful, people who have politically had great success perhaps, perfectly possessed by the devil.
In other words, they have made a kind of a silent pact with Satan in which they are receiving whatever they wanted in this life.
And he said, when you pass them on the street, you know it.
Well, you know, as I wrote about this in my latest book, Planet Earth, Final Chapter, I give a vivid description in there about the Antichrist and his situation.
But I also mentioned that, you know, this is something that does happen today.
That's what should have happened, and I'm glad to hear that.
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Yeah, and I'm glad too, and I don't ever want to go back there, but I will never forget the smell and these things that had a hold of my heart, literally, fleshly, of my heart, and were trying to rip it.
And they made these horrible noises like they were vomiting and they were tearing.
Here in New Jersey, I'm like an hour and a half from New York and 20 minutes from Philadelphia.
In the last two years, you cannot drive within one mile.
It's like the battle of the pharmacies.
And I don't, it gives me a weird feeling.
I don't know, and I'm asking Mr. Lindsay and you or whatever, if you know of anything that this is referring to, that what is going on, that there needs to be a pharmacy in every mile.
With respect to your books, we have links to Amazon.com on my website.
they can go immediately and click on any one of your books and they'll be right there where they can grab it or obviously They're all there, and they're also, of course, in bookstores nationwide.
I assume your new book is pretty well in the stores now?
And we have high hopes for this new one that's coming out, facing Millennial Midnight.
I think it's something that takes a very sensible approach to it, but I think it's going to be very convincing and it's going to tell people how to prepare for it without being too excessive.
You know, I remember the day when I was on one radio station and I personally would always reply to every single person, but it's so far out of my control now.
Hal will be with us, I am informed, until the end here, which is just great.
I don't mean it quite literally, but the end of this program, of course.
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In there like this, Hal, you must be a night person.
Yes, but I believe that all children below the age of reason, where they can reason, you know, and understand things, I believe all of those are taken to heaven anyway.
We talk many times about the possibility of alien life.
And I don't see how anybody can go out and look into the heavens and the stars and the billions of light years that are out there with all those planets and not imagine there would be life.
But Pat Robertson said that people who believe in UFOs should be stoned.
The old biblical reel them up against the wall and throw stones at them.
And I just want to preface with, I worship no man because I know you all have clay feet, but I want you to know that speaking to both of you gentlemen tonight is going to be something I'm going to remember for the rest of my life.
To Mr. Lindsay, with regard to the Antichrist, in Matthew 24, 15, when Jesus speaks of the abomination of desolation that the prophet Daniel spoke about, is this somehow tied in, perhaps in secret ritual, with the Asherah?
Jesus says, Jesus quoting that, says, when you see the abomination that causes desolation standing in the holy place, well, that's the Holy of Holies of the Temple, which means it has to be rebuilt.
But then the Apostle Paul further comments on that when he says that the Antichrist is going to set up a statue of himself in the temple, and he's going to take his seat in the Holy of Holies of the temple and there proclaim himself to be God.
The book of Ezekiel, chapter 1, verses 16 through 21, to me that sounds a lot like UFOs if you read it.
Especially in verse 16, if you take into consideration the American translation, the English translation of the word beryl, which does not exist in Hebrew, the closest thing in Hebrew, to my knowledge, that exists to beryl is highly polished bronze.
And I was just wondering what you think about that.
I probably wasn't paying close enough attention at that moment.
No, what I did say is that no one can pick the year with accuracy.
But what I believe is it could happen at any time.
I don't know when.
No one can say the day of the hour.
But we're in the general time of it.
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See, Art, the tribulation is going to take seven years to happen.
So the rapture could happen at any time now.
And regarding near-death experiences, Satan in the Bible is called many names, and the Bible says that the world belongs to Satan, and he's the father of lies, and he twists things.
As a matter of fact, this is probably getting old.
You know, my audience is probably tired of hearing it, but it affected me so that I can never forget it.
Everybody who talks about these NDEs, Hal, always talks about going to the light, their relatives beckoning them on, angelic beings and all the rest of it.
In fact, you know, what I was speaking of just a while ago about the New Age prophecy that those who would hinder this quantum leap into new consciousness will be removed, that would be a perfect explanation.
I am familiar with many prophets, modern-day New Age prophets, who are saying that the Earth will be struck by a large rock, an asteroid, a bol eye, whatever you want to call it.
We will be hit.
And indeed, Hal, you mentioned earlier, Hollywood is knocking them out, one after another.
Jesus said that unless he returns at the moment in history that he does, that there would be no one left alive, but he said he will return for the sake of the elect.
Speaking as one of the damned, and I say that only because I've looked very hard for God and I cannot bring myself, for all of my desire, to believe in Jesus or the God of the Bible.
What are people like me looking forward to?
Hell?
Damnation?
I believe myself to be a good person and I believe in God.
I just can't buy into a God that plans on destroying the majority of all the people on the planet, both past and present, and future.
Just like to know ahead of time so I can crack open a six-pack, smoke a joint, clip my toenails, and watch reruns of MASH until damnation.
I often am very embarrassed for Jesus because of the way some churches act.
I mean, they drive people away.
But there are some that, you know, they have the focus where it should be, and that's on the Lord, and they don't try to build it around some personality who's just trying to build himself an empire.
These are real people that I know that I have a problem with in my life.
And some of them, while preaching one side from the other side, they are the most unethical, immoral, backstabbing son of a guns that you'd ever want to meet in your whole life.
You know, I'm really sorry, and I know what you're talking about.
Some people wear their religion like a heavy perfume.
You know, you put too much of it on, and you start parading it around too much, you drive people away.
And yet, you know, the thing that really drew me to this, in spite of the fact that I was very much against Christianity, was focusing on I just read about Jesus, and as I read about him, this was a man I could relate to.
He didn't go around condemning people for everything, you know, and God didn't appoint us as his prosecuting attorneys to be down here condemning people for what they, you know, for a curse word or something like that.
In other words, he's saying, as Hitler didn't know or perceived himself as a good person or a Saddam Hussein or anybody else, the Antichrist will not know.
Edgar Casey, in the book of Revelation, where he had given some readings, said that the Gentiles are those who, being very devout without, have grown smaller within.
I think that answers something for you there.
When I was in Sunday school, I didn't get too many questions answered either, so I've got a couple of them for both of you.
In preparation for Christ to be born and for John the Baptist to be born, there were certain things that were prepared, and I believe the Essenes were the ones who did this.
Who's going to prepare the way for what's coming now?
I mean, he's coming back to rescue a civilization from annihilation, self-annihilation.
Because what is presented in all of these prophecies about those final days before he returns is that man himself is the one who brings such destruction on the planet that all life is almost wiped out, which shows us that that couldn't have happened before today when we have weapons of mass destruction.
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All right.
And I've got another question for you.
This is kind of off the wall, maybe.
In demon possession, whenever Christ was walking upon the earth and he came upon the possessed man that had the demons in him that called himself Legion, and when they knew that he was going to expel them, they pleaded with Christ to send them into a herd of swine rather than just expel them.
Why do you think this would be?
Is there something to dimensionality, the places where the soul can be and where it can return from or where it just goes and proof it's gone?
Millions, on the other hand, millions and millions of Americans, maybe even over half of all Americans have seen something that they regard as impossible in our skies.
In the Bible, the Lord calls himself a creator, and he calls himself eternal and unchanging.
So it's unthinkable to think that there is no other life out there besides us because the Lord says that he's already created it and he's going to continue to create it.
Well, you know, they did ask that question when they tested the first A-bomb, and they thought there was a distinct possibility the entire atmosphere would go into a chain reaction and blow up and destroy us all.
But you know what?
They pushed the button anyway.
So that probably tells you what they would do.
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Oh, friends, I've come to talk with you again because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping and the vision that was planted in my brain still remains within the cell of silence.
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You ever listen to the words of this song?
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A silent and in the naked light I saw Ten thousand people, maybe more People talking without speaking People hearing without listening People writing songs that voices never share No one
did disturb the sound of silence Just a little more.
Who said I do not know Silence like a cancer grows Hear my words that I might teach you Take my arms that I might reach you But my words like silent raindrops fell Echoing the will of
silence And the people bowed away To the neon god they made And the sun flashed out its warning In the words that it was forming
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So I guess I should ask you before we march back to the lines, when you look at today's news, how do you digest, what do you see based on present trends in the news happening?
I've been an R Bell listener for about six years now, and I think I've been listening to Hal for all since the early days of Park of the Pines in the late 60s, early 70s.
And the Bible seems to point out that there are many Antichrists, little A, but one big A, large Antichrist, who seems to come from the area of Syria or the old Babylon Empire, since it says he will be the king of Babylon and perhaps of a Jewish heritage since he will be accepted, I guess, on the throne in Israel.
Well, as I wrote in my latest book, Planet Earth's Final Chapter, I give a very elaborate description of this person and the perimeters that prophecy puts on him.
I mean, here's a man that's going to see himself as more than a man and the savior of the world.
He's going to have a lot of altruistic values and things like that.
I mean, he's not going to see himself as this great evil.
it could be anybody who commands a great deal of attention and if there's going to be a deception so I how He's not going to come around pushing faith in Jesus Christ.
He's going to see himself as this messianic figure.
Anyway, my first question is familiar with the part of the Bible where it says I must leave now and tend to other sheep that are not of this flock.
And since Jesus was the Savior of this whole world, and there's billions and billions of stars out there, could it not mean that he went out to another world to go and preach to and save other beings that God has created?
And my second question would pertain to the Red Horse of the Apocalypse.
Well, but there were these two-legged human creatures that we can document reasonably well that have been walking the planet far longer than Christian teachings would suggest.
My philosophy is the more questions I ask, the more answers I get.
The more answers I get, the more questions I ask.
That's the way it goes.
But, Hal, I had a theory to kind of run by here to see what you think about it.
And it's kind of interesting that Art gets so many calls on his Antichrist line, because I had a theory about Antichrist being more of a way of thinking as far as building.