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Nov. 26, 1998 - Art Bell
03:19:18
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Biblical History - Father Charles Moore
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From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning, wherever you may
be.
Full stuffed bellies, I'm sure, full of Thanksgiving goodies.
Sort of a little sluggish, eh?
Well, that's why I had my Thanksgiving dinner at about 3.30 in the morning, yesterday morning, after the program.
And it was delish.
And I stayed up for a while, let it settle, went to sleep, got up and watched football.
And what greets me, but naturally my bet is on the Steelers on Pittsburgh.
And the most egregious, horrendous, unbelievable occurrence in football that I have seen in many years occurred.
The game came to a tie at the end.
And the referee, as is usually the case, came out with a coin and flipped it into the air.
Steeler's guy claims he called tails.
The referee thought he heard the guy say heads, tails, and he said heads.
And it came up tails.
And so Detroit got the ball and won the game.
Generally, the first person to get the ball after the overtime begins wins the game.
I think Rick here from La Quinta... La Quinta, I guess, pronounced, sums it up well.
Dear Art, I agree with the potential dangers associated with mass prayer.
However, sometimes the need outweighs the risks.
Could you make one exception this time?
Could we possibly all pray for an immediate reinstatement of instant replay?
No kidding.
I mean, there were some really horrible calls in that game.
Just terrible, wrong, game-changing calls.
They must bring back instant replay.
They must bring it back.
That's all there is to it.
Whether it does your team a service or not, I think that We live in a modern day and age where we have the ability, quickly, to look and see what really happened.
And it's getting a little embarrassing out there for a referee to make a game-changing bad decision that stands because they won't accept the video instant replay.
It's ridiculous.
It's annoying.
It's impossible.
It must change.
Do you care what the president ate for Thanksgiving dinner?
No, me either.
It says here, though, Japan finance minister may resign.
That would be about the 43rd.
Last two months.
OPEC fails to reach deal.
That's been going on for a while.
Price of oil is at a 12-year low.
Interesting.
European AIDS deaths are down, and not just down, but they have fallen 84% since 1995.
They're obviously beginning to get a handle on all of this.
A very sad note, if true, and I hope it is not true.
I pray it is not true, but it may be.
Apparently, the Drudge Report And, uh, Associated Press, according to what I've got here,
say that, uh, Elizabeth Claire Prophet has announced she has Alzheimer's.
And, when I interviewed her, she did not sound quite right.
Bye.
And I'm so very sorry if that is true.
Initial reports that I'm getting indicate Elizabeth Clare Proffitt has Alzheimer's disease.
Well, up there near the Redding ripple, you're getting a bunch of earthquakes.
They're, in fact, swarming.
Swarming earthquakes near Redding, California.
Twelve of them in the last 24 hours.
Strongest a 5.1.
That's a pretty good size.
That occurred at 1140 p.m.
Wednesday evening.
We are going to be talking in the next hour with Father Charles L. Moore.
And I got Father Moore's name and number from none other than Zachariah Sitchin.
And Zachariah said that Father Moore has been following what Zachariah Sitchin has been laying out all of these years and has comments on it and it seemed to me impossible just impossible how could a Catholic priest believe that the Anunnaki from the twelfth planet are our gods with a small g
That they tampered with us genetically, causing us to be what we are today.
I mean, this does drift a little bit away from the traditional Catholic point of view.
But we'll find out.
It'll be interesting.
I suppose around the rest of the dial, it's all repeat city.
We're here live tonight.
We'll be here tomorrow night, too.
I thought this was kind of cute.
It's called a bottle of wine.
From Janet in Freeburg, Illinois.
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson went on a camping trip.
After a good meal and a bottle of wine, they lay down for the night and went to sleep.
Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend.
Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.
Watson replied, Millions and millions of stars.
What does that tell you, said Holmes?
Watson pondered for a moment.
Hmm.
Astronomically, it tells me there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets.
Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo.
Horologically, I deduce that time is approximately a quarter past three.
Theologically, I can see that God is all-powerful, and that we are but small and insignificant.
From a meteorological point of view, I suspect we have a beautiful day tomorrow.
What does it tell you, Holmes?
Holmes was silent for nearly a full moment, and then spoke, Watson, you idiot!
It's some bastard stole our tit. I don't know why that one hit me, but it did.
Bye.
Global warming may have triggered the unprecedented melting of sea ice in the Arctic, which has left the remaining ice up to a third, get this, a third thinner than it was 20 years ago.
This comes from Fox News Direct.
Scientists studying sonar readings from British submarines fear the thaw could lead to huge disruptions of the world's ocean circulations, including the Gulf Stream, which keeps Britain and Western Europe relatively warm.
Uh-oh.
A failure or a deflection of the Gulf Stream, which keeps Britain's ports free of ice and ensures that winter temperatures generally are warmer than at similar latitudes in Canada, and the former Soviet Union would have a devastating, indeed, effect on the climate and the economy there.
So you see, when people tell you that, you know, the ice breaking off in the Antarctic, so what?
Melting, so what?
Think about it.
At the same latitude, suddenly Britain and Western Europe, which are kept relatively warm, would no longer be warm and would freeze, and that would change the economics of things just a bit, wouldn't it?
So I thought you'd want to hear that, and everybody wants to say, well, it just does not make any difference, or, you know what, it really doesn't, I know.
It sounds scary, the ice falling into the water, the ice melting, but, ha, big deal!
Well, sorry to tell you folks, but it is indeed a big deal.
If it's going to begin to change the economy of nations, in fact, continents.
Think about it.
Listen, tomorrow night we are going to do nothing but tell ghost stories.
news.
Assuming war doesn't break out, there's not an alien landing, nor an impending one, or anything of that magnitude, we will tell ghost stories.
And by the way, somebody sent me another really cool ghost photograph.
This one is from 1906.
Didn't have a lot of computers back then to manipulate images.
And I've said it to Keith, and he's going to get it up there.
So, tomorrow night, ghost stories.
Good ones, too.
Real ones.
You want to know about the afterlife?
One avenue of obvious investigation is that which we know as ghosts or spirits.
That accounts for my following it so closely.
Now, we didn't get a full opportunity to do it on Halloween.
But ghosts are good anytime, and so I've decided tomorrow night we're going to do that.
Now, for the next hour, I am going to leave the studio cam image that I snapped at about, let me see, about 1137 this morning.
It was a beautiful day here, and Ramona was out there.
Now the barbecue is in the shadows, and so you can't see it, but she was barbecuing brats.
So that we could have them during the games.
I still can't believe that game!
Anyway, I took a photograph.
It tells you what kind of day we had.
If you want to take a look at the studio cam, you will see what kind of day we had here.
Beautiful.
So I'll leave that up there for about an hour, and then I'll start the in-studio cam.
Going in the meantime, to the international line, you are on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Or actually, happy Thanksgiving for you guys still.
Thank you.
And, yeah, a couple of things I wanted to talk about.
First of all, I'm glad to see you're back on the air.
Oh, yes.
Where are you?
I'm in Winnipeg.
Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Yeah.
And my name's Darren.
And a couple of things I wanted to talk about.
First of all, the weather.
And I also wanted to talk a little bit about Y2K.
Okay.
First I'll talk Y2K.
I did a little bit of a Y2K test over here on my VCRs.
No problem.
Lucky you.
Well, I had several sad emails from people.
You know, I read the email from the guy whose VCR locked up.
Yep.
It wouldn't eject, it wouldn't do anything, and then several other people thought they'd do like you did, and they tried it, and theirs locked up.
Mine's okay, mine are okay.
I had one that I bought in 1991, and that's an old one, and hey, it works like a charm.
Good for you.
And the weather.
This Winnipeg weather here, we're getting, like last Sunday, we got, um, we were in the 50s, like low 50s, around 50 degrees.
Yes.
And that is unusual for, um, for late November going into December, and we're getting up to about 48 tomorrow.
Really?
Translates to plus 8 Celsius.
What should it be in Fahrenheit now?
Let's see, plus 8 is 48.
No, what I'm saying is, what would be normal for this time?
What would be normal, say, in the mid-20s or something?
Low 20s, mid-20s, and Fahrenheit.
Weather is changing.
And low 30s.
Yep.
So that's our wacky weather here.
It'll probably work out that it'll get cold as hell down here or something and it'll get warm up there and you'll grow all the food and we'll have to buy the food.
It's all going screwy but the thing to worry about is how long is it going to last so nice up here and also at least it'll make the bad weather last for less time we would hope and it's also pretty strange to look outside and see hardly any snow at all or none.
In a lot of cases.
I know.
I think, thank you, there can be no argument about it.
The weather is definitely profoundly changing.
It may be only a short-term phenomena, though I suspect it's more than that.
But that it is changing, I think, I think there is no longer any argument.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
It's Joe from Boston.
How are you?
I'm fine, Joe.
I'm not too good, but I spoke with, I met Danny Brinkley.
No kidding.
He was up here with me in Boston.
He took my phone number down.
I hope he keeps his word.
Yep, he's quite a guy.
Yep, we talked about you.
And this Y2K thing, I don't know whether you got my last fax, that was after you went off the air.
I did, Joe, yes.
Okay, did you reconsider it?
Because I thought one night we could do a plight night maybe.
No, I'm not going to do that, Joe, because unfortunately, without You know, without an investigator out there investigating whether it's real plight.
Well, I would never lie.
I have no reason to lie.
Of course not, Joe.
But there are others who might.
Well, because what are people like me going to do when I don't have much to get ready?
I mean, you could do it on the side, you know, if you wanted to.
But he said he'd talk with you about it.
Well, yes, I'm sure we will talk of it.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to have Gary North on.
Next week.
But people like me don't have even the funds to get some of this stuff.
I only have a little water and a Beijing radio.
I'm just saying, you could... You know what?
You're actually in better shape than a lot of people who have good income.
No, I'm not.
Yes, you are, because they've got their head in the sand.
Yeah, but all I have is two bottles of water, and that's not going to last me for anything.
When I tell you it's two bottles more than most people have, I'm telling you the truth.
What am I going to do about food?
I don't know, Joe.
And power.
And power?
What are we all going to do without food and power?
You have a generator, we don't.
Well, it's only good so long.
Six months.
Yeah, maybe.
Come on, that's better than us.
So that's why I mentioned about energy.
Can you at least ask the listeners to send energy my way like you did with the weather?
And good things, wish good things for Joe.
Well, I will do that, Joe.
I wish you good things, but I'm not going to do a mass experiment right now.
Sorry.
My mass experiments are on hiatus while I consider it.
I'm thinking about it.
What's for the Rockies?
You're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
How you doing this evening?
Very well, thank you.
And happy birthday to you.
Mm-hmm.
Got a question for you.
Mm-hmm.
I missed the show with the doctor who found the alien.
Are you going to repeat it?
And if so, when?
Well, we did repeat it.
And it was this last Sunday night, Monday morning.
Oh, no, I missed it.
I work graveyards and sometimes I have access to the radio and sometimes I don't.
Well, I don't know what to tell you.
One day in the future, perhaps, but we just repeated it.
Bummer.
Well, I wanted to tell you I'm curious as hell as to what took you off the air, but if it means danger to your family, I'd just as soon not know.
There will come a time.
Well, Good luck to you and yours, and I hope you have happy holidays.
Thank you, and I wish you the very same.
There will come a time that I'll be able to talk about that, obviously, and when that time is here, I will.
Period.
I'll have a lot to say, as a matter of fact.
There already has been some information that is broken in some publications, and it's getting closer all the time.
When it will finally, I suppose, break, but I shall not be the one to do it.
When it does, however, I'll have a lot to say, as I keep saying.
Until then, I'm going to keep my own counsel.
Anyway, coming up on the bottom of the hour, don't forget at the top of the hour, Dr. Father... Dr. Father.
Dr. Charles L. Moore.
Father Moore, actually.
And we'll talk about the Anunnaki.
We'll talk about the Twelfth Planet.
We'll talk about Zachariah Sitchin.
It should be a different kind of conversation.
It should be a different kind of conversation.
Words of love so soft and tender won't win a girl's heart anymore.
If you love her then you must send her somewhere where she's never been before.
Worn out phrases and longing gazes won't get you where you want to go.
Words of love soft and tender won't win a girl's heart anymore.
From east of the Rockies, call Art at 1-800-825-5033.
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is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. From east of the Rockies, call Art at 1-800-825-5033.
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I'm still not over what happened in that football game.
I mean, here we are in overtime.
A hard-fought Thanksgiving game.
seven two seven eight four nine nine please limit your boxes to one or two pages
is close to close to him without
now again here's our once again here i am i'm still not over what
happened in that football game
i mean here we are in overtime all hard fought thanksgiving games dealers in detroit right
the referee comes out Flips the coin in the air.
Stealers call it in the air.
They say tails.
I mean, you can clearly hear that on the tape.
They say tails.
And the referee says heads.
And it comes up tails.
And they don't get to receive.
And they lose the game.
Incredible!
That's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen happen in the NFL.
Absolutely astounding.
and besides that, besides all of that, I had a bet on it.
Now, to my international line, you are on the air.
Hi.
Hello, Art.
Yes, I'm calling from dead center in the North American continent.
Arnie at Woodside, Manitoba, which is fairly close to Winnipeg.
1290 is my home radio station.
Yes, sir.
And three things, if I may.
First of all, I've received my CC Crane radio just this afternoon with great excitement.
All right!
And I haven't exhausted everything on the dial.
I want to stay tuned to your program in the meantime, but I'm very, very impressed so far.
And I actually picked up 1110, I believe it's KFAB, Omaha Council Bus, in Nebraska.
This is thousands of miles away.
Yes, I know.
There is no other radio like it, period.
You're lucky, because you know what?
They're selling out.
And we've got to wait for the next batch to come that are produced, unfortunately.
And they're being grabbed up so quickly now that the word has spread like wildfire about the radio.
And they're going.
I was thankful.
I received mine in one week, which is fast from California to Canada.
It has to come through customs and a few things, and I'm very happy with the service.
We here in Canada, one reason I called you, had another major Y2K announcement.
As you know, maybe a month ago, the Canadian military had announced nationally that all the troops would be on standby in case we needed them on that December 31st.
Our National Police Force, the RCMP, have all been notified too.
There's nobody getting any days off from December 31st up to possibly March of year 2000.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Let's say that Y2K brings with it half of what we think it might.
The power goes out, water stops because they can't pump.
Are you ready?
I personally am.
I'm retired from business and I live in a cabin in the country.
I've got my wood stove and I'm able to rough it and good well water and things like that.
Yes, I'm ready partially.
And I've tested all my VCRs and that works properly.
They go to zero zero but they still work.
But today, the major announcement today on our national television station was that Canadian insurance companies have announced that... I know, I've got it.
They're not going to cover Y2K claims.
Exactly.
They're going to put exclusion clauses in all of their insurance claims.
So that's a major announcement.
I don't know.
They're going quite public with it here in Canada.
And preparing us for, I guess, what's coming up.
I know, my friend.
I read it.
I actually read one of the notifications.
I didn't read it on the air.
I should have, I suppose.
But you're absolutely right.
They are not going to cover anything Y2K related.
And they're telling everybody that right now.
Right.
So that's an anticipation that we're expecting something major to happen.
I have, if I may, a ghost story in advance of tomorrow night.
I won't be able to call.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
No, it's not a personal one.
No, hold it for tomorrow night.
You can call.
OK, I'll call tomorrow then.
All right.
OK, thank you.
The international line is not so hard to get through on.
Thank you.
Tomorrow night, nothing but ghost stories.
Now, I warn you, and I really mean this, listening to a full night of real ghost stories is scary as hell.
You know why?
Because they're very common.
Very common.
Too common.
And as you listen, you begin to realize that about halfway through, you'll begin to get a chill going down your spine that won't leave for a long, long time.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
That's me.
My name is Phil.
I live in New Jersey.
Hi, Phil.
I'm listening to you on WABC New York.
ABC.
How's Curtis doing?
Is he calming down?
He's calming down, but I don't think he will ever be calm down.
You know how he is.
I do.
You know, he was sending me, I was getting all these faxes saying he's coming out to see me with his band of angels.
And I was wondering why he thought he needed all his little angels with him.
Probably moral support, because I think that's about all he is.
I wouldn't either.
I've got a line that would go well there, but I won't use it.
Well, the reason I'm calling you is we were listening to someone, a man the other night, who's a submariner, or was a submariner.
Yes.
Is that the way they say it on the East Coast?
A submariner, yes.
Yes.
And, well, anyway, It triggered something.
He said it triggered something that happened to me.
Uh, I'm a retired Air Force officer.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, it happened to me about, um, uh, about 30 years ago.
Okay.
I was flying out of the West Coast, uh, Travis.
I was a navigator.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, uh, I was just deadheading, getting some extra time, getting some time to go somewhere.
So I flew as an additional crew member.
There's a C-124.
I don't know if you flew the Globemasters.
I never flew one of those.
I flew, uh, I dead-headed a lot on C-130s.
Okay.
Well, anyway, they had a big crew compartment up forward, and, uh, I was sort of relaxing there, and the, uh, line navigator, the guy who was, you know, for that mission, uh, having some problem with the radar.
Mm-hmm.
So, uh, he, uh, came back and asked me, I'm the captain, and I had more experience, and maybe I've flown this route.
I knew something, so what's the problem?
Well, he's getting some return out there.
He thinks it's a shoal.
It could be a shoal out there.
A shoal?
Hey, not between, once you leave the West Coast and get to Hawaii, you're getting close.
There's nothing out here.
I thought maybe it was a shoal that wasn't on the charts, and that low tide would come off and take up return.
I said, hey, know how.
So let me take a look at it.
So, it was just about 200 miles out.
The range on our scope in the 124 was about 220 miles, 230 miles, something like that.
It was just on the edge of the scope.
Right.
So, I said, maybe just, I said, first of all, I said, well, let's see, it could be a thunderstorm out there, just changed the tilt on the antenna.
Could be a rogue wave, could have been a lot of things.
Yeah.
Well, hmm, it stayed out there, a little fuzzier, It was definitely out there, so I said, well, maybe defect in the scope.
Bring the range of the scope in to about 50 miles.
And if it's a real return, it will disappear.
If it's a defect in the scope, it will stay in the same position on the scope.
That's logical, yes.
So, brought the range in.
No, he already did that.
I said, what?
I brought the range in.
Hmm, there was something out there.
OK, something big.
Something getting returned at 200 miles out.
Right.
I remembered something.
I had been through the Navigation Bombing School at Mesa, and I remembered that very dense material, very large structures, would give a tremendous return.
So I said, well, it's not jamming, because I knew what jamming looked like.
So I figured, uh-huh, in my fuzzy mind, it must be some new type of jamming mechanism that we have on some of our ships that we haven't heard about, and it covers an area, so that a missile can't home in on it.
A missile needs a point, it can't home in on an area.
Sure.
So that's what it must be, we told the pilot, he picked up on his repeater scope out there, and we gave an ETA for it, and it was probably a Navy carrier group or some type of jamming mechanism.
And, uh, so that's how we change frequencies.
We'd listen, think if we could pick up some Navy aircraft.
Listening to them talk between the aircraft.
Didn't pick up anything.
So we plunged on ahead.
It was now daylight.
It was daylight.
And, uh, they gave me an ETA for about 50 miles out.
Because at that point, uh, their, uh, combat air patrol would intercept us.
Even though we were on course and, you know, airways knew of our position and so forth.
A carrier group would automatically intercept any plane coming to the area just to make sure who they think they are.
We're going to have to rush forward.
What did it turn out to be?
Well, we got to within a few miles of it.
We looked out there, we couldn't see anything.
The radar now indicated it was maybe a mile and a half wide, two to three miles long.
Tremendous return.
In the air or on the water?
In the air.
The radar was tilting down looking at it and we couldn't see anything except the area, darkened area, approximately three miles long, a mile, mile and a half wide, which looked exactly like what the radar return was indicating.
The only thing that could have been was something very dense right beneath the surface of the water and all our experience was that The radar energy would not pick up anything as soon as it went under the water.
Too deep to have been the shadow of a submarine or anything.
No other interference, no interference from our radios.
As we passed behind it, we lost track of it because of the configuration of the aircraft.
We sent the coded message in to Hickam that we had an unidentified sighting, gave it the latitude and longitude to the fact that it was here.
What the hell that could have been?
We don't know.
We landed.
We were debriefed by a Navy officer.
He said, it was this.
We said, no.
Could have been garbage slick.
It wasn't this.
It wasn't oil slick.
And he had the ultimate answer for it.
And that was?
Classified.
Took the navigator's log, the pilot's mission flimsy, the radio operator's log.
Wait a minute.
He said it is a classified thing?
Yeah.
Wow.
He had no idea what it was.
Wow.
He had no idea.
And he took all the logs?
You know, I have a suggestion for you.
I would like you to contact... There's two things that you can do.
One is you can file a Freedom of Information request that will get you all that information, assuming it's been unclassified by now, and I would think it would be.
Um, you can contact somebody named Peter Gersten.
Who is in... What's the last name?
Gersten.
G-E-R-S-T-E-N.
Yeah.
He is an attorney who will willingly do this kind of work.
Yeah.
Um, do you have a computer?
Yeah, I, yeah.
Alright, well, you can get him at UFO Lawyer.
UFO Lawyer.
One.
The number one.
Lawyer One.
At AOL.com.
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at a well dot com tell him that story
and i think he can help you okay and you know and when you when you get the information
come back here first or definitely will alright okay the reason i picked up was
that your radio the uh...
about it mention the fact that they had some identified
objects very large underwater Thank you very much.
Yes, our submarine expert, and there was no question about his expertise, when asked directly about things that moved utterly too fast and much too large under the sea, Do they see them as we see UFOs in our skies?
And the answer was an unqualified, without hesitation, oh yes.
Probably to the same degree that we have unidentified objects that cannot be explained seen here.
What that man saw, you've got to admit, is very interesting and deserves an FOIA request.
It'd be interesting to see what they come up with, huh?
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, this is Ed from Madison, Wisconsin.
Hi, Ed.
I'm the guy that's hassled you over the last couple of years about fasting.
Oh, yes.
Sorry about hassling you for that.
I just really get excited about the topic, and I didn't mean to hassle you, but I know I did.
No, that's all right.
I mean, fasting is not a good topic on Thanksgiving, but... Right.
But that is a topic I was going to talk about in response to Joe that you had called before.
Oh, yes.
That's what I'd like to say to him, that if he's feeling a sense of powerlessness, like there's nothing that he can do, I would just like to suggest to him to take some time to fast and pray.
I would say from my experience that truly nothing is impossible through prayer and fasting.
Well, he's got a lot of time to prepare, for one thing.
And if he's got a Bajan radio, he's got water, he's already ahead of most people, frankly.
So he'll make it.
We'll keep him in our prayers.
Okay, take care.
Thank you.
Do that indeed.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Going once.
Hi.
Hello.
Hi, I'm calling from Green River, Wyoming.
Okay, welcome.
Thank you.
I watched that game today.
Yes.
Yeah.
And there was a call early on in the game that gave Pittsburgh a score that it shouldn't have.
That they should not have made.
I agree with you.
I saw that.
Yeah, so you know, it shouldn't have been a tie maybe in the first place.
I know, but you can't say it's cool because that's karma and, you know, that's the way... No.
No, that was... There was some... They had quite a few bad calls.
They have got to bring back instant replay.
I agree with you.
I was kind of upset when they took it away.
Yeah.
The other thing I wanted to talk about was the worming.
Ah, yes.
And I moved here to Green River from Valentine, Nebraska, and they've been setting records in the 70s there.
Really?
Yeah.
Today I talked to my family there and it was 72.
This is, you know, it's one of those things, you watch now, you mark my words, the whole country is going to wake up to this all of a sudden.
I mean, already people are, of course, saying, what's going on with the weather?
Oh yeah, well... But it hasn't really quite dawned on everybody that we're in the middle of a really profound change.
No, it is pretty strange.
Here in Green River, we are High Plains Desert, and we are usually have snow on the ground here in Thanksgiving time, and it's bitterly cold.
Yes.
And it was about, oh, I'm not even sure what it got up to today, because I didn't look because I was watching the games instead, but I think it probably reached close to 60.
Imagine this.
British submarines are saying they are measuring one third less ice in the Antarctic.
Yeah.
Can you imagine that?
A third less ice.
What do you suppose that might mean?
Well, and the chunks that are breaking off are big.
I heard someplace that they're bigger than what the Titanic hit.
Oh, much bigger.
And there's even yet a bigger one getting ready to break off.
All right.
Got to break it off here.
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Hello, Art.
I have to agree with you on the Stealer Lion Game, and the instant replay not only was a coin flip and example of total incompetence, but In that game, an intercepted pass bounced off a player.
Clearly.
The referee claimed the ball bounced off the ground.
What was he looking at?
He had to have invented or imagined seeing it.
I couldn't agree more.
It was just... It was... It was... It was heartbreaking.
It cost me money.
It was aggravating.
I mean, they had this thing locked up?
And then they mess up the coin toss!
It's like that commercial they have where the ref comes out and finally has to ask the players if anybody had changed for a dollar, you know?
Having a bad day?
It was that bad!
It was really that bad.
It should be embarrassing for officiating in the NFL.
Alright, coming up in a moment, Father Charles L. Moore.
And I don't know a thing about Father Charles L. Moore.
Except that my friend Zachariah Sitchin said I should have him on the air.
And so that's exactly what we're going to do.
It's hard to imagine a Catholic priest who would have any sympathy at all with the twelfth planet, the small gods, the genetic tampering, and all that as our beginning.
Anyway, we're going to find out.
We'll find out more together.
In a moment.
Don't touch that dial.
Well, okay.
Here we go.
His name is Father Charles L. Moore, and I know he's somewhere in Central California, and I know that Zachariah Sitchin recommended that I have him on.
And that's all I know.
Here he is.
Father Moore, welcome.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
You must be in Central California someplace.
Civic Grove.
It's on the Monterey Peninsula.
Okay.
Why do you think that Zachariah Sitchin would say I should talk to you?
Because of a dialogue that's been going on between Zachariah Sitchin and myself for several years now, and in which we seem to understand each other with great accuracy.
And I have been very grateful to Zachariah for providing me with some insights into where theology might have come from.
Alright, let's back up.
We'll get to that in a second.
Could you tell us about yourself?
Are you an active priest?
Are you retired?
What kind of priest were you?
And so forth and so on.
A little bit about you.
Well, yes, I was ordained in 1964.
I've been retired for a few years now officially, but I'm still working at it by having this meeting in my house that's very successful.
I kind of travel around.
I have ceremonial travel and I go up to Montana, down to San Luis Obispo and to some other places.
I'm a lawyer also and I went to Stanford and was in the Navy one time.
That's sort of my background.
You are currently not active as a priest?
Yes, well, I am active all right, but I'm just officially retired from assignments.
I am sad.
Sort of on my own as a retired priest.
You were a traditional Catholic priest?
Yes, I think that's fair to say.
I was ordained out of one of the most conservative seminaries in the world in Los Angeles, California.
Well, it's a pretty long way from that conservative background to an alliance with Zachariah Sitchin and the Twelfth Planet and the Anunnaki and all the rest of it.
So maybe you can explain to all of us how that happened.
Well, I'd just like to make a phrase first as introduction.
It's the introduction of the gods, this is what I call it, the introduction of the gods into the paradigm, the paradigm being the accepted view.
And I have frequently thanked Zachariah for allowing me to have the information to insert the gods into the paradigm.
And what that seems to do, for me and for everybody I talk to, when they get it, all of a sudden all sorts of things make sense that never made sense before.
It's probably the most remarkable synthesis of What might be called secular history and scientific process and religious theory that I've ever found in my life.
When you insert the gods, you said?
Insert the gods into the paradigm.
Yes.
How from everything you have learned, everything you know, and I assume at least at one time everything you believed, do you do that?
How do you insert the gods?
Well, the gods, of course, play a big part in the historical view of the world by mankind, and they appear quite forcefully in the Bible.
But they appear in the Bible as if they were mythological, or as if they were things of naught, as it is said.
However, the Greek gods certainly play a big part in our memory of ancient cultures.
And the English poets play on them a lot, as do the German philosophers.
And these gods, of course, are looked upon as being mythological, or perhaps psychological.
And they are taken in those terms.
What Zachariah Sitchin tells us is that they are real, and that they are as real as we are.
And one must understand that these gods are not spelled with a capital G, but with a small one.
I asked him a question one time.
I said, Zachariah, Is the God whom we worship, the God whom the gods worship?
He thought for a moment, and he said, well yes, exactly.
Then he wrote a book to prove it.
So, the God of gods, as it is stated in the Bible, is extremely consonant with being the God whom the gods worship.
Now putting that all together of course takes a little bit of deep looking at your belief system, but in the final analysis it simply verifies it and makes it more credible.
And so you find no conflict with what you have learned and what you now believe versus what you originally thought you believed as a complete story?
That's basically correct.
When one does this, one has to look at one's creedal system and re-evaluate it.
Many of the favorite doctrines of the Catholic Church, for instance, turn out to mean something quite different in this context than what is usually accepted.
This process is greatly assisted.
Also, one looks at it and one finds certain There are many things about the Catholic Church that befuddle me somewhat.
I'm not Catholic, my wife is, and we went to Rome not long ago and walked into the Sistine Chapel, and as you walk through the front of the main Entrance to the Sistine Chapel.
Here's this gigantic globe in a glass enclosure with the signs of the Zodiac on it.
I stood there and my jaw dropped and I went, what?
The Sistine Chapel?
This is what I'm greeted with when I walk into the Sistine Chapel?
Exactly.
Perhaps you could explain that seemingly impossible vision.
Well, my approach to that is, from something very cognate to it, is the subject of telepathy.
People ask me, for instance, the church doesn't believe in telepathy, does it?
And I say to them, well, I don't know.
But if the church does not believe in telepathy, what are they doing when they pray?
You say that to them?
Yes, exactly what I say.
And what kind of reaction does that usually get?
They say, oh, I never thought of that.
Why, I suppose that's right.
It's really much closer than you'd think, as far as the Zodiac is concerned.
Let us take a simple thing about Judaism.
Which is basic to the whole thing.
And that is the way the encampment of the Israelites was laid out by Moses in the desert, okay?
And you will find that not only do each of the tribes of Israel have a Zodiac sign assigned to them, the numbers being 12 in both cases, but that the arrangement of the encampment was the arrangement of the Zodiac, in which the Ark of the Covenant pointed east to the equinoctial sunrise, and the All right, so there's apparently a lot of things about Catholicism that I don't know.
american indians would say right around
uh... in exact order of the zodiac each tribe having its proper position
alright so there's apparently a lot of things about uh... catholicism
that i i don't know
uh... a lot of misconceptions about uh...
And I...
So, you embrace the thought that long ago, this twelfth planet, Nibiru, did come by, that in fact, there was a race called the Anunnaki, or whatever you want to call them, I suppose it doesn't matter, a race of extraterrestrials, who intervened with a creature here at that time, produced, I suppose, you certainly believe, That's right.
Wow!
That's right.
I find that utterly consistent.
Now, let me tell you why.
Please.
Genesis, which of course is a very popular book in the Bible.
Yes, it is.
Genesis has a bibliography.
Now, when people say, How could Genesis have a bibliography?
It's the first book.
Well, of course, Genesis is not the first book.
It's just about beginnings.
But it has a bibliography which is contained in the book itself.
And the bibliography is of books, most of which are lost.
One of them is called the Book of Noah, for instance.
And there are other books, the Book of Jubilees, etc.
Now, the Book of Enoch.
Now, these books The big deal about Zachariah Sitchin is how he got started on all of this.
I suppose he told you that.
When he was doing his Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi had him memorize part of Genesis.
One of the phrases in it was translated from Hebrew into English.
The English translation was, The sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair, And took as many as they wished to wife.
Now, seriously... Producing the Nephilim.
Huh?
Producing the Nephilim.
Nephilim, yes.
Yes, Nephilim.
And the word Sons of God was translated from the Hebrew word Nephilim.
Alright?
Alright.
Well, he said to the Rabbi, Rabbi, the word Nephilim doesn't mean Sons of God, does it?
Doesn't it mean those who came down?
Rabbi said, yes.
Well, why do you translate it Sons of God, then?
He said, don't ask questions, just memorize it.
Which is a typical, one might say, Catholic answer.
Well, I, as a child, went to Lutheran Church and I got similar answers until one day when I asked too many questions, they asked me to just not come back next Sunday.
That's what they do to folks like that.
And the thing is, of course, that it is the questioner who cares about the answer.
Oh yes.
And people who don't ask questions probably don't care about either the question or the answer.
And so therefore what's happening in that situation is that the theologian or whoever it is that's teaching you is defending themselves against being brought up against their own doubts and ignorance.
And their refusal to answer or to be questioned is a sign that they don't know what they're talking about.
And you as a child knew that, of course.
Had you expressed these beliefs when you were active and you had to perish and so forth and so on, would you have been removed?
No.
I went to a friend of mine who went to the seminary with me, who is now a bishop in a Northern California diocese, and actually he's my best friend in the seminary, and I sat down with him and explained a good deal of this.
Afterwards he rocked back in his chair and said, Wow, Charlie you've really been doing
your homework haven't you?
Did he?
But you understand, said he, I couldn't speak publicly of these things.
Did he really say that?
Yes he did sir.
That's just about where we are on this matter.
You know what I call this particular theology?
I call it the theology of radical conservatism.
Do you think that this belief or this knowledge is held tightly within the Vatican?
Yes, I do.
Wow.
I say again, wow.
Yeah, very much so.
And we're going to see it breaking forth forthwith.
I'm talking to you this night on the radio Nationwide, maybe the opening shot of a tremendous celebration.
There have been, Father, a couple of interesting news items from the Vatican with respect to unidentified flying objects being, in fact, real.
I forget, it may have been a bishop, high official of the church, went on television in Italy and made some sort of statement to that effect.
And so there have been a few things like that.
You've almost got to wonder if they're not sort of preparing the way for more information to follow.
Well, if you want to go on to that for a minute, let's deal with the June 30th phenomenon.
By the way, I also know Graham Hancock.
I visited him in Devon.
Oh, a wonderful man, a good friend.
Isn't he a great guy?
Great guy, yes.
Absolutely.
And his recent book, The Mars Mystery, is really a bombshell.
Notice that his date, which he supports with considerable scientific evidence, to look out for what I call the bolide.
Alright?
My theological statement of that, the Noah Flood was a bolide hit.
The Earth was hit by some object from outer space that caused what was called the Noah Flood.
And the history of bolides in the world is very well recounted by Uh, Grant Hancock.
Absolutely.
Uh, Father, hold on.
We'll pick it up at that point when we come back.
The Great Blood.
A bolide.
Well, if it was that, how did Noah have time to prepare the Ark?
Because the bolide would have been not quite immediate, but nearly immediately disaster.
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I apparently have a lot of listeners there.
I'm listening to your program here now at 9.30 in the morning.
I'm interested in your Y2K comments and phone-ins.
I'm preparing for the Y2K problem here by moving out of the city and going to live in the kingdom of Swaziland, a rural and unspoiled area in the southern African region.
Keep up the good work.
Well, I guess my going on the radio in Cape Town had some effect.
We seem to have a lot of listeners now in South Africa via the web.
Back now to Father Moore, and Father Moore, you were saying that the Great Flood was caused by a bolide, or otherwise people would think of it as a meteor or a giant rock from space.
Right.
How would Noah have had time to prepare the Ark if it was a bolide?
It would have come surely without warning.
Well, the entire story is recounted in the records of ancient Sumer with great precision.
The name of the person is Utnapishtim.
That's Noah's name in Sumerian.
Utnapishtim was a king of Erech, which is one of the cities of Sumer.
It came along that this bolide was sighted by the gods, coming in, and they knew that it was going to strike and create havoc.
And that they would have to evacuate the planet in order to avoid being killed.
And the question was whether they were going to save the people or not.
But the chief god, Enlil, who usually comes on as El, decided against saving the human race because they'd been so messed up by the interventions of a certain bad god named Hazazel.
And so consequently he decided not to warn them.
However, the story is that Enlil's brother Enki, who was a friendly person toward humankind, decided that he would save somebody.
And so he called Utnapishtim into the sacred precinct behind the root screen and told him, rather, to come into the temple that night and that he might hear something of interest to him.
And there he told the root screen that night about the coming catastrophe and that the entire world was going to be
destroyed either by fire or flood and that therefore he should prepare himself a boat.
And he said, by the way, Rude Screen, I brought the plans for this boat along and I'll leave
them here with you so that you, Rude Screen, can at least escape from this catastrophe.
And leaving, of course, the fish team came up and snatched the plans and went to work
and built the boat and the rest follows.
In other words, the gods saw it coming.
The gods.
the godforsworn coming the gods gave the warning
All right.
Dan in Palm Springs, California asks, perhaps the obvious, Art, Happy Thanksgiving.
Please ask the Good Father how long he was a priest, and was he asked to retire?
Okay.
Answer, I've been a priest, and I still am, since 1964.
And I was ordained in the Diocese of Monterey and I was not asked to retire.
I retired in the normal course.
So there is no breach between me and the hierarchy.
That in itself is shocking in that you would have asked a bishop about or told him all of this and he would have simply acknowledged that you're correct but it can't be talked about.
There are many, many, many secrets held within the walls of the Vatican, aren't there?
There certainly are.
I have interviewed another Catholic priest frequently, whose name I bet you're familiar with, Father Malachi Martin.
Oh, yes.
I've read his book, Windswept House, with great interest.
There are some pretty serious indictments in that book.
I would say.
I don't want to push you into an opinion you don't want to give, but you haven't been hesitant so far.
I don't disagree with Malachy Martin about anything he says.
He's added to my store of knowledge, but I wouldn't question his veracity.
Father Martin is and has been, as well as an advisor to two popes very close to the Vatican, an exorcist.
Do you believe that people, in fact, are possessed by evil, by the devil?
Well, the simple answer to that is yes.
This opens up a whole field which we may not have time to get into, which is about what I call shamanism.
To put it plainly, this is the definition of a shaman I've learned to work with.
A shaman is a person who discovers within their own heart the knowledge that everything in the universe is made of spirit.
And this, of course, is what Einstein said.
But anyway, shamanism, in my opinion, is the original religion of the three and a half million years of mankind.
And it still survives among us.
And the function of shamans.
Moses, by the way, was a shaman.
Apparently so was Jesus.
And the function of a shaman is to deal with spirits.
Good and bad.
Was Jesus the Son of God?
Not in the way people usually mean that.
You know, I asked Zachariah that the other night.
And he said, Art, that is something that I have yet to deal with.
I'm going to write a book about it.
Okay.
But I don't have my answer for you right now.
Ah, yes.
Well, Jesus is... Jesus, in my opinion, is someone I would call a master.
And the necessary comparison to Jesus is Siddhartha, Buddha, Bodhisattva.
And the parallel Between the life of Jesus and the life of Buddha is absolutely astounding.
It is, yes.
And I've gone to India to check it all out on site, and it just keeps getting more marvelous all the time.
And the, for instance, the idea of Bodhisattva.
The basic statement of Buddha as Bodhisattva, which occurs at the time of his passing at the age of 80, is, I am with you all days, even to the end of the world, which is exactly what Jesus had to say.
And the idea is that Bodhisattva is the point where the man who is the enlightened Buddha becomes the enlightened spirit who chooses to remain to assist those in the process of illumination who choose to ask him for that assistance.
And it seems to me that this is precisely the same function that Jesus performs.
So that it's so much so that I have this saying that I go by.
Jesus grafted a Buddhist shoot on a Jewish root.
Father Martin says that he knows the third secret ephedra.
Yes, I know.
And that, I will frequently ask him about it and he will always not tell, but he will say something like, it's worse than the worst you can imagine.
That's right it is.
I know what it is.
It was released in June.
It was?
No, no.
What?
I'm sorry, I missed that.
It was released.
In June.
Yeah.
Now, that goes back to Joe Graham Hancock.
Graham Hancock predicted that 30th of June is a bolide hit.
You know that?
30th of June of... 1999.
No, I did not know that.
You're giving me all kinds of new information here, and I can only deal with one at a time.
The third secret of Fatima... Well, now the point is...
The third secret of Fatima is there will be a bolide hit on June 30th, 1999.
Oh.
In other words, we could perhaps have a repetition of the Great Flood, or it could hit land and... A firestorm.
And a firestorm.
I was not aware that Graham had made a prediction of a June 30th hit of a bolide.
Very much so, in the Mars mystery.
He gives the exact date.
June 30th.
June 30th.
You know that meteorite shower we just had?
Yes.
That's the front or back side, as you might look at it, of the same shower that will hit us on June 30th.
Phew!
You're laying so much new stuff on me here that I'm having to try and assimilate it as best I can.
Now I'm going to have to get a hold of Graham, obviously.
Yes.
Because it's in his book, and the thing that got me was that I read his book shortly after it came out, and I found the information about the Third Secret of Fatima shortly thereafter, and the fact that both the Third Secret of Fatima and Graham Hancock's prediction predict exactly the same date kind of raised my hair up a little bit.
Sure, oh sure.
Now the thing about that is, the word bolide, which I use so frequently here, That is actually Nostradamus' word.
And he predicts the bolide on July 6th, 1999.
Who released the third secret?
Vatican.
The Vatican did?
That's what I understand.
How could I miss this?
Do you actually have the text of it?
No, I don't.
I just got it in a sort of a newsflash and I haven't been able to track it down further than that either.
But it was in some kind of a publication that came out, and there it was.
That's why it's more terrible than anything you can imagine.
Well, that would virtually end life.
Yes, it's a life-extinguishing event.
uh... graham and talk you know it is but mars mystery says that the life
extinguishing events have occurred every thirty million years of the very quick
within the last four and a half billion of the planet's existence
now i have some sympathy with that point of view because of course there is the uh... eternal
uh...
uh... dialogue between uh... those who believe in creation of those who believe
in evolution i don't see the process of evolution underway though i'm
here for a short time and may not notice
I I tend to believe
That we go through periods of creation and destruction, and that evolution as we know it, particularly as you look back on it, there are jumps that are unaccountable, occurred at times of creation or destruction and then creation again.
That's right.
That's exactly the way I view it.
The thing is that we are living in a shooting gallery.
And you look around at the other planets, and you can plainly see that bolide hits are the order of the day.
It's what the frequency is that we don't know.
And the Earth isn't any different than any of the others.
And Graham Hancock tells you exactly why these bolide hits hit at that frequency of 30 million years, which you might be interested to know.
And the idea is that the Sun, it's about orbital speeds.
The orbital speed of the Earth, well, one of them is a thousand miles an hour, you know.
around its axis.
The other one is 60,000 miles an hour around the sun in its yearly course.
The other one is, I believe, 360,000 miles an hour, which is the speed of the sun going around the Milky Way.
The thing is, though, as the sun moves around the Milky Way, it does not move in a plane like a planet, but rather follows a dolphin-like course, going up and down in a sine wave, like a dolphin.
Apollo the Dolphin, the Greeks called it.
But anyway, as it goes up and down, it passes through the spiral arms of the Milky Way, in which the matter is much more dense than above or below.
And the period between the peak and valley of any wave is 30 million years.
And when you look at the geologic record, Graham Hancock says, we have such a life-extinguishing Every 30 million years, it is no doubt caused by the sun passing through the arms of the Milky Way.
That is correct.
I believe that is exactly what Graham said.
The original flood, the story of Noah and the ark...
There was then intervention when Ebola was headed our way.
What do you anticipate or know might occur this time?
In other words, will there be yet another intervention?
Well, I think that's the promise.
I think this is what the fundamentalists call the rapture.
That whenever this happens, somebody mounts a rescue effort.
That seems to be exactly what it's about.
The thing is, though, that in the former hit, the time of the flood, whenever the bolide hits the sea, as in Deep Impact, the movie, whenever it hits the sea, there are these huge tidal waves.
And by the way, the destruction in the flood was not basically caused by the 40 days and 40 nights of rain, but by huge tidal waves that eventuated off Antarctica, where the bolide hit.
And came up the Indian Ocean into the funnel of the Persian Gulf and poured out over into Central Asia.
Now, this is what happens when a bolide hits the sea.
If a bolide hits the land, however, huge quantities of earth are thrown into outer space, scatter themselves around in a kind of corona around the earth, fall back to earth through the stratosphere, become highly heated and cover the earth with a rain of fire.
which is totally destructive of everything on its surface.
Now, such a hit on land would be very hard to prevent the destruction,
unless some kind of intervention from out there should occur just before that happened.
Afterwards, it would be too late.
Of course, the more likely scenario is that it would hit water,
more of our planet is water than land.
70%, yes, that's right.
Exactly.
The results for us, though, would be, I suppose, somewhat the same.
Just about nothing would survive.
That's right.
You know, I am really, really, really curious to... I hope you can stay around and let me open up the phone lines and let people ask you questions, because I guarantee there are a lot of questions out there about what you have said.
I hope so.
I mean, do you feel like you have a little bit of time?
I'm ready.
You are?
Yes.
Alright, I should warn you, Father, that I have unscreened phone lines.
I just... I don't...
Pre-question my callers about what they're going to ask.
They can ask anything they want.
And based on what you've said, believe me, they're going to have some serious questions.
I know.
I do this every Sunday.
You do?
Oh, yeah.
After I give my talk, I always say, well, what do you think about that?
And people ask me and go wherever they want.
You do this on radio someplace?
Yes, I do it on the radio on occasion.
I used to do it on Seeing Beyond as a station that's recently gone national.
But I do it every Sunday here whenever I have services.
Okay.
Stay right where you are, Father.
This should be absolutely, positively fascinating.
My guest is a Catholic priest.
One who began as a very conservative Catholic priest, Father Charles L. Moore.
And if you've heard The Last Hour and you don't have questions, I suggest you check your pulse.
Holy smokes!
He was recommended to me by Zachariah Sitchin, who was on earlier in the week.
And after the news, we'll open the phone lines.
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Once again, here I am.
I am not easily blown away.
I mean, I do a show that deals with the unusual, don't I?
So I'm not easily affected heavily.
This morning, I'm blown away.
My guest is Father Charles L. Moore, and he is here at the recommendation of Zacharias Sitchin, who I interviewed earlier in the week.
Zachariah might have warned me what I was in for.
He didn't.
And all I can say is, wow.
If you've heard the last hour, no doubt you have many, many questions.
Father Moore comes from a very conservative Catholic background.
He validates much of what Zachariah Sitchin says.
Actually, almost all of it.
Father Moore says the third secret of Vedema has been released.
It is a bolide that is going to hit Earth June 30, 1999.
The same date that Graham Hancock has predicted this event will occur.
Bolides?
Floods?
Fire from the sky?
Mountains?
That's biblical, mountains.
or lesser events.
Alright.
Let's make sure that I've got this right.
Father Moore, welcome back.
Hello.
Here's email.
Father Charles is aware that the book of Revelation talks about a burning mountain falling into the ocean.
Perhaps he can paraphrase that verse?
Not offhand.
Take me a second, but I recall it.
You virtually have said tonight that You believe the world, our world, as we know it, is going to end June 30th of 1999, this coming year?
Well, I would say that people ask me, what are the chances of this happening?
And I say, well, I guess just about what the chances are of everything happening, 50-50.
But the point is that the fact of the coincidence of three major predictors on one date, effectively, Causes me to have pause to think that it's very likely is going to happen.
I let's put it this way.
I won't be a bit surprised.
And as that date comes closer, I will expect to prepare myself.
Do you think father that we will have warning of this?
And when I say that, I mean, not just what you're saying right now or Graham Hancock or the third secret of Fatima, but warning in, in a, Um, astronomical sense that some astronomer will, uh, see this thing coming toward us.
Graham Hancock says no warning.
No warning.
And he says why.
It's a 24-hour, it's a, the morning will be 24 hours, which is much too short to do anything about it.
And the reason he says that is that the Leonid, uh, meteorite shower, uh, which we go through in June, in June it comes in the daytime hours.
Well, I thought the Leonids came in November.
They do, but they also return in June.
They return in June.
Well, that's what Grandcock says.
I'm taking his word for it.
And that when they come in June, you don't see them.
That's why they don't make anything of them, because they're not visible.
I see.
And he says that they're hiding in there someplace, is a great foggy mass covered Debris-covered bolide of considerable size.
Well, I do know that astronomers have categorized, I believe they claim, 10 to 15 percent of what they call the Earth-crossers.
They only know about 10 to 15 percent.
And I also know that in the past, many, many times, the Associated Press, the main wire services have run stories that go about like this.
The Associated Press learned today that Earth had a very close call two days ago.
Right.
24 hours ago.
And then something came very close that we had no idea was out there.
And we find out about it two days later.
Now, does that give me a lot of hope?
Well... That we would know ahead of time?
No.
No, it doesn't.
The thing is, however, I will tell you that coming events do cast their shadows before In terms of deep-seated psychological awarenesses.
I believe that.
And I think that we're beginning to see symptoms like that popping up all over the place.
At least I'm seeing it around here.
And it doesn't have anything to do with having heard what I said.
There's some kind of deep disturbance at work.
Oh boy, do I agree with you.
I wrote a book called The Quickening, which was all about that, and I'm not a prophet, but I have felt for some time now that a really major event is imminent, is on the way, is close.
I can just feel it.
I can feel it in every fiber of my being.
I know it.
All right, here we go.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Father Charles Moore.
Hi.
Yes, Father Moore?
Yes.
I had a question for you.
You seem to jump between different historic and archaic texts Quite often.
I want to know, um, uh, how do you decipher which texts are accurate?
Or, you know, you seem to take a verse out of the Bible, then continue it in some ancient other text.
Yeah.
And I want to know, understand... Where are you calling?
Uh, from Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania.
Um, some of it, no doubt, comes from Zachariah Sitchin's reading of the Aramaic... Because when you were talking about Noah before, and you mentioned about the meteorite, In Genesis it speaks about the waters covering the highest peaks for several months.
If that were true, as a scholar and as an educated person, do you really believe that it would take several months for the water to recede from the highest peaks?
Certainly would.
Why do you say that?
When these bolides hit, Genesis uses the term, the fountains of the deep will be loosed.
As well as the 40 days and 40 nights.
And fountains of the deep being loose means tidal waves, tsunami, right?
It's true.
And the thing is that when a bolide hits and sets off the tidal waves, they are huge, but it takes them at least a year to settle down.
And they keep sweeping around the earth and around and around and around for at least a year.
And actually that's just about the period indicated in the Bible in which it took the flood to subside.
Well, that's the proper time frame, I imagine, but I just can't fathom it would take that long for the seas to settle.
That's your view, and it's my view, but it's neither here nor there.
That estimate is given by people who deal with such things.
What are your views on Jesus Himself?
Is He the Savior, or is He just one of many Saviors?
Basically, yes.
The thing is that the concept of Messiah, and when one looks into the concept of Messiah, one learns a great deal.
For instance, the book of Judges, that is so-called in the Bible, should be called the book of Messiahs, because that's what Messiahs do.
And what Messiahs do is liberate people.
And that's, of course, what Jesus says he's here to do.
It's about freedom, and that's what Buddha said he was here to do, and that's what the judges in the Old Testament did, and that's what Moses did.
In the New Testament, and excuse me for interrupting, but before I lose the train of thought, I believe it's Corinthians, or one of the New Testament books after the Gospels, where Paul is saying that there was no other name beneath heaven given amongst men.
By which we must be saved, save the name Christ Jesus?
How would you justify a verse like that?
That's Paul of Tarsus, and I'm afraid I have not a good opinion of him.
Well, how can you not have a good opinion of him, though?
Because I've discovered in studying these matters that Paul of Tarsus is a Greek, and he makes Jesus into a Greek God, and Jesus is not a Greek God.
I'm sorry, sir, I disagree with you because he was picked of the Lord.
I'm not going to argue your point because you seem to be set in your ways.
This is what I call our fundamentalist problem, Art.
The fundamentalist problem is this.
You believe the messenger more than the message.
Uh, you can't name that bishop that you talked to, can you?
I'd rather not.
Okay.
He didn't want to be known publicly for his opinion, and I would respect that.
I understand that.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hi Art, thanks for taking my call.
Sure.
And you're great to the world community, and I'd like to ask your guest, first I'll call up from Los Angeles, California.
I would like to ask your guest, Possibly he might think that I've been doing a lot of, I'm 34, I've been doing a lot of reading and really interested in alien abductions since I was 17.
I happen to know a woman that has been abducted.
I would like to ask you, we know of many accounts of women being abducted and testimony of possibly hybrid beings being created.
by these beings.
Now, could it possibly be that if this is going on, that these beings are trying to somehow preserve the human race in some form before this catastrophe might happen?
Maybe they have foresight that this is going to happen?
And maybe that question might be for Art too.
Well, that's entirely possible.
The thing is that if you read the Sumerian story of the creation of Adam and Eve, You will find that it is precisely a genetic experiment conducted by the gods in which human beings on the planet 300,000 years ago were used as the source of one half of it, the feminine half, the ovum, and the Anunnaki, or the people from the other planet, were used as the other half, the male half.
And that genetic experiments were the precise way in which human beings were bred up.
The bad news is that the human beings were bred up by the, quote, gods, unquote, to be slaves.
I've got another question.
Have you ever heard of some tapes called the Day of the Nephilus?
I'm sorry?
There are some tapes out there by this one minister called the Day of the Nephilus.
They talk about the beings having sex with human beings and creating giants.
That's right, that's the story of the descent of Azazel on Mount Hermon.
Okay, now this tape that I heard and this minister that I was talking with saying more or less that these beings were of Satan and that they couldn't procreate like we do, so they had to do it genetically.
Well, they've got that a little backwards.
Okay, can you explain your view on that?
Well, it's pretty close.
The thing is that the name of Satan in the New Testament that Jesus reuses was Beelzebub.
Now that's a Babylonian word, and the meaning of that word is Idol of the Flies, alright?
Or Lord of the Flies.
That same name appears in Judaism as Hazazel, and that also appears in the Book of Enoch.
And this Hazazel Beelzebub is the personage who is presented as Satan, or the Devil, in Judeo-Christian literature.
And this is a very specific person and can be very clearly identified as to what happened.
And what happened, according to the Sumerian story as presented by Sitchin, is that the descent of Hazazel on Mount Hermon was against orders from on high, as it were, and he came down here in order to engage in fun and games with the ladies.
And the result was that he produced offspring that were monsters and giants.
And that this was the cause of the reason why, or the reason why, the human beings were not rescued from the flood, because the entire race had been corrupted by the interference of this Azazel.
Now it's very interesting that this Azazel is precisely, in Judaism, Orthodox Judaism, is the demon of Yom Kippur.
Yom Kippur being the principal feast of Judaism, in which communion with the Spirit of the Creator is the object.
And Hazazel is the one to whom all of the sins are sent by the priest on the head of the scapegoat.
And this Hazazel and the identification of the devil as Hazazel will clear things up for everybody massively if they can get with it.
Now the thing is that this Hazazel, it isn't that the Nephilim are all devils, but rather that Hazazel is a devil.
In other words, he's just a bad god.
All right.
All right.
Father, it was a man from the Vatican named Father Balducci, that's the name, who went on Italian television earlier this year, incredibly, to discuss his views officially on UFOs.
And that would indicate to me that the Vatican seems to be preparing All of us for something, and the Vatican must know something that we don't know, and they're trying to get information out, not directly, but somewhat indirectly.
That's about correct, and I think that that may be the story with Malachi Martin as well.
Father Malachi Martin also has been saying to keep your eyes firmly upon the sky, because there is going to be a large sign from the sky, he thought this Last spring, and now he thinks this coming spring, so that really drives him.
He knows the secret of Fatima, and guess what?
That's it.
The bolide.
The bolide.
I sure would like to lay my hands on the actual text.
Are you working on that at all, trying to get a hold of it?
No, I am not, as a matter of fact.
But I believe that it wouldn't be too hard to do.
If you put your mind to it.
Internet and all.
Internet and all.
All right, Father.
Hold on.
Father Charles L. Moore is my guest.
June 30th, 1999.
The father says that is the third secret of Fetima.
And then on that date, a bolide is going to strike Earth, land or sea.
And it's more or less a moot point, which it is for us.
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I see trees of green, red roses too.
I see them bloom for me and you.
And I think to myself, For me and you.
And I think to myself, you
What a wonderful world.
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Holy mackerel!
I have made this ground.
I've watched them grow.
They're like much more than I'll ever know.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
Indeed, at least up until June 30th, huh?
you Good morning, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and my guest is Father Charles L. Moore.
We'll get back to him in a moment, and your questions... Alright, back now to Father Moore, and Father Moore, I have a question for you.
With what we've already had from the Vatican, would you expect that between now and that fateful date, June 30th of 99, that there would be official statements from the Vatican?
I would expect so.
The thing is that I'm not sure whether this was an official statement that was sort of, you know, played down by the press.
As you say, some further investigation has to be done into the circumstances.
All right, here's somebody who writes.
A question for Father Moore.
Mr. Bell, if there is going to be an extinction event next June or July, June specifically, what reason would there be to not commit suicide before then to escape suffering beyond imagination?
Well, because the suffering at that time wouldn't be any greater than doing it yourself.
Well, that's a good answer.
Plus, there is always the possibility that it will not occur.
Well, that's just exactly right.
Actually, you know, Father, I've told this story before, but I had a very interesting phone call once from a lady who said, if we knew we had six months to go, and there was going to be an event in LA that would extinguish all life, do you think You think everybody would go out and run their credit cards up to the max?
Let me finish.
And I said, you know, I really have no idea.
I doubt the credit card companies would allow it.
And so this lady called MasterCard or Visa, I forget which one of the big ones, and she asked that question.
And, you know, the first person said, hold on a moment, please.
And she actually got to somebody high in management.
And they answered her question.
They said, well, we actually have considered this, and our attitude would be to allow everybody to continue to charge all they wanted based on the following assumptions.
One, if it hit, it wouldn't matter.
Everything would be academic, and nobody's going to be collecting anything anyway, so who cares?
Based on the possibility that it wouldn't hit, and that Earth would survive, we'd be in great shape!
Well, that's pretty good, isn't it?
And it's actually a fairly logical... A very logical answer.
Yes, it is.
The interesting thing is that they considered it.
Yes, indeed.
East of the Rockies, good morning.
You're on the air with Father Moore.
Good morning, Art.
God bless you for your show.
Father Moore, Yes.
I am so happy about this show because I need an answer and you, from what I heard you talking about earlier, can corroborate or give me the answer to this.
From the things I've read, I believe that when God created, made the creation, first he made, you know what a sefirot, sefirotar?
I'm sorry?
You know what a sefirah is?
Sephiroth, yes.
Okay, God created other universes, which are the Sephiroth, and then He created this universe.
And I believe that from those other universes, those were the gods, let's say, or extraterrestrials, which were like, God was the architect and they were the workers.
They came here And we will create it.
Well, that's kind of the story, isn't it?
And it would be great if you would be able to... I think our task could have with you like two shows so you could explain how it was created.
Because it's so interesting and it's so easy.
It's very easy indeed.
And the thing is this is the question of dimensions, you see.
Right.
And the word dimension is actually the inadequate word.
The word should be multi-mention.
Right.
Because dimension means only two of them.
And the action is that there are many of them.
Right.
And the thing is that the process of creation and what is meant by creation needs to be clarified to deal with that.
And what creation is, curiously, is represented by what the scientists call black hole theory.
But the idea of creation is that it is, and it's actually in the Book of Enoch as well, and also in the Gospel according to Thomas, which we've now discovered.
In the mouth of Jesus.
And here's what he says, and this really needs some explanation, but here's what he says.
For spirit to become matter is a marvel.
But for matter to become spirit again is the marvel of marvels.
Now that's what creation is as I understand it.
When spirit becomes matter.
Don't you think it would be easy, okay, from what I've read, you know, like the infinities of contracted, in order to create the vessels?
That's right.
It is the emergence of the material from the non-material.
Right.
And the thing is, that emergence is pressed by an osmotic power of the Creator.
This is precisely the kind of thinking that we need to do.
I brought up the word shaman before.
This is the ancient religion of the world.
We have been shamanic for three and a half million years.
We've only been human in the sense that we are now after the God's intervention for about 300,000, but still the shaman is your radical Well, we can certainly ask.
The scientists talk about the Big Bang, Father.
is the radical person who understands from their heart the process of creation. Wouldn't it be great
Art, don't you think it would be great for the father to to have a show or to explain how creation was made it so
easy to understand? Well, we can certainly ask
the scientists talk about the Big Bang father yes they do. Would you instead refer to
Genesis?
No.
I would try to explain Genesis in terms of the Big Bang, rather.
The thing is, I know a lot of people don't like the Big Bang Theory, but I rather like it.
And the reason I like it is because of what it deals with, and this is pretty abstract mathematics, the non-dimensional point.
And this is a Kabbalistic concept from the Kabbalah of the Jews in the Middle Ages.
It's called Kether, and Kether is the manifestation point of the Sefirah that our friend the lady was just talking about.
And the idea of it is that it's a non-dimensional point, and points are all non-dimensional of course, in which the unmanifest reality Manifest as reality.
Now, I say that again.
The non-dimensional point at which unmanifest reality manifests as reality the way we know it.
Now, this point is clearly demonstrated by the black hole theory among scientists.
Which is the idea that a black hole, which is at the center of our galaxy, for instance, is a tremendous appetite, and it rather eats up the galaxy as it goes over hundreds of billions of years.
But the idea of it is that it is a place where mass is condensed to such a smallness as to make it almost impossible to imagine.
For instance, just as a general idea, that if the Earth were in the black hole, it would be a microscopic planet.
Oh yes, oh indeed.
Now the thing is, but the idea of one would think that this black hole is dimensionally, by our dimensions, very large.
But the opposite is true.
The black hole is infinitely small and having this massive appetite to consume those things which appear large.
And someone has also pointed out that a quasar seems to be the other side of a black hole.
That what it takes into its non-dimensionality and back, apparently, into You know, pre-material being.
It then spews out as a huge burst of light, something like a quasar.
And that creation, this would be a succession of creation and catastrophe, in which the one is the other side of the other.
And that this is what we call creation.
Now I want to say something right there.
What we're dealing with here is a concept of the Word of God.
Now, we take the Word of God, or the Bible, the Bible, and only the Bible.
Well, in a sense, the Bible is the Word of God.
Well, maybe it's the Vedas instead.
Well, maybe, in a sense, it's the Vedas.
But actually, the primary Word of God is something that West Point calls celestial mechanics.
The primary Word of God is the universe and the way it works, both inside of us and outside of us.
And it is upon this Word of God that we must depend To interpret any other word of God that we receive.
Boy, I'm telling you, you're going to shake up the force tonight.
Well, it was for the Rockies.
You're on there with Father Charles L. Moore.
Hi.
Gentlemen, good evening.
Good evening.
Good morning, as it were.
Where are you?
I'm calling from San Diego.
Okay.
Those of us who are from the Monterey Peninsula, or in the Monterey Peninsula, have known Father Charlie as one of our best kept secrets.
Well, apparently so now.
Maybe you can help me out here because a lot of people are writing saying this cannot possibly be a Catholic priest.
Actually, I interviewed Father Charlie in 1992 when I had a show on a public radio station, KACU in Pacific Grove.
Really?
Good to hear you again, Father.
Hello.
As ZZ Top would say, you're bad.
You're nationwide.
I did want to ask you a real quick question from last night.
The gentleman who faxed you about the Based on a true story scenario of somewhere in time, wasn't perhaps from Tucson, Arizona, was he?
No.
Oh, good.
That's good.
Father, I'm myself a devout agnostic, and as we know, fundamentalist Christians would say that our only hope for escaping what you described as their concept of the rapture is to accept Jesus Christ, and personally As an agnostic, if I was going to pick any religion, I certainly, and not to start a firestorm of controversy, wouldn't put my chips in the Kingdom Hall, for example.
It sounds like we're doomed.
I mean, I had a pretty much surreal, emotional Thanksgiving as it was, and this is kind of a cherry on top.
So, basically, what can we do, Father?
Well, I think that what we need to do is to awaken our inner shaman.
In other words, prepare spiritually.
Well, I wouldn't say it that way, really.
You know, I know what you mean.
But when I say awaken our inner shaman, I'm saying something about our capacity to deal with our unconscious world.
Alright?
And the thing is that, you know, you put it in terms of the unconscious world.
For instance, In dealing with this thing about the gods, there are two manners in which the gods seem to be ahead of us.
One of them is technology, and the other is telepathy.
Now, being ahead of us in telepathy is kind of a 100th monkey internet idea, which is that we are all communicating with each other on this unconscious telepathic level all the time.
And if we knew how to do that and bring it back and forth into our consciousness, we would be massively empowered.
And I believe that.
I believe that as well.
Father?
Yes?
I remember one question that stood out back about, well, six years ago now, I guess.
We were discussing, when you and I talked, the Kabbalah, and I remember you saying that you bring that up in your, they were pretty much ecumenical services, aren't they?
Oh yes.
You bring up the Kabbalah, but you will not teach it because you consider it too dangerous.
In light of what's coming, do you still believe that to be the case?
Yes, I do.
The thing is, I teach the Kabbalah.
I have no problem with that.
But when somebody asks me, teach us the practical Kabbalah, which is how to manipulate the power, I won't do that.
And the reason is that I know something about that curious religious phenomenon called the forbidden secret.
All right?
And the thing is that when people, you know, if there is a forbidden secret, everybody wants to know what it is.
I was about to ask.
But what it is, what the forbidden secret is, is, now this may not sound like what it is at first, but you'll have to think about it.
It's how to get the consent of the victim in a sacrifice.
Now there's my definition of priesthood.
Priesthood is not a priest.
He's a sacerdos, a sacrificer.
And here's what a priest is.
The instrument of a priest is a knife.
The action of the priest is to kill.
The power of the priest is to get the consent of the victim to its own death.
And the purpose of the priest is to give God a good reputation.
All right.
Let me read this to you, Father.
Yes.
I've located the verse in the book of Revelation which mentions the burning mountain.
It's Revelations 8, 8-9.
And the second angel sounded his trumpet and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea and the third part of the sea became blood and the third part of the creatures which were in the sea and had life died and the third part of the ships were destroyed he goes on it gets better 10 and the third angel sounded and there fell a great star from heaven burning as it were a lamp and it fell upon the third part of the rivers and upon the fountains of waters and the name of the star is called wormwood there you go now that sounds
Eerily like the bolide that you're talking about, doesn't it?
It certainly does.
And you notice these angels, by the way.
Notice that these angels are the angels of the four directions.
Which... You know, I almost hate to say this, and I hate to even bring it up with you, but that sounds an awful lot like a Wiccan belief to me.
Well, it is.
Because Wiccan is directly descended from primal shamanism, and like all things has become corrupt and therefore a bad word, but nevertheless, its essential approach to reality is an ancient shamanic approach and has to be respected.
Incredible.
All right, Father, can you do one more hour?
I mean, there's a million people who want to talk to you here.
Sure.
Father Moore is my guest.
Father Charles L. Moore.
He says the third secret of Fatima has been released.
He says the third secret is that this coming June 30th, as Graham Hancock, he says, also predicts, is going to be when a bolide hits Earth, water or land.
It may be somewhat academic for all of us.
It doesn't really matter.
But that would be about it.
And the trumpet sounded.
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It sure is. Honored Moore is my guest and he'll be right back. I'll tell you, this program
is constantly a surprise to me.
I'm a monster.
And tonight is certainly no exception.
Father Charles L. Moore is a very traditional Catholic priest.
Or he was.
Or he still is.
I'm not sure.
We'll ask.
Anyway, he says that very likely a bolide is headed our way June 30th, 1999.
headed our way, June 30th, 1999, and he cites as evidence for this a release of the third
secret of Fatima, as well as a Graham Hancock statement.
Same date.
And so we're having a rather interesting program that ought to have you on the edge of your seat.
Now, will something intervene as it did once before, he maintains, when the Nephilim were destroyed by the Great Flood?
Extraterrestrial intervention.
Perhaps so.
anyway uh... to be sure a fascinating show and father more will be right back
Alright.
Bye.
Here we go again.
Father Moore, this is very interesting, and I'm glad somebody faxed me and reminded me.
The Vatican, not long ago, against all odds against all environmental considerations that would
have prevented uh...
anybody else or any organization or or uh... even university from going on top
of mount graham in arizona built
uh...
built a uh...
muscled their way on top of mount graham and built an observatory
to look at something or for something
in space and you go i mean they've blusted their way past all the
red tape and uh...
in conjunction with the university uh... that observatory is uh... is on mount
graham Thank you.
What do you suppose they might be looking for?
Maybe what's coming, huh?
Maybe what's coming, huh?
Indeed.
West of the Rockies, you're on air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Oh, hi.
Hi there.
Where are you?
I have a few questions.
I'm in the Bay Area.
The Bay Area, okay.
You're actually near Father Moore.
Oh, well, I'll have to go see him.
I have a few questions.
Yes.
The first is, how do I or we prepare our souls and our bodies for what is to come?
Thank you.
That's the question I wanted somebody to ask.
Stop there.
Let him answer that, and then you can go on.
All right.
First of all, what do you need to do?
is to do a meditation on the nature of death.
And you will be surprised.
Now here's a statement which I believe is far beneath and above what people usually say.
And I apologize in advance because it's a little shocking.
And that is that ecstasy is the only dependable motive of conduct of every sentient being.
That's the first statement.
The second statement is that the universe has been created by Creator in such a way that ecstasy is the only dependable motive of conduct of every sentient being.
Meditate on that and then realize that ecstasy is associated with that transformation of life that we call death.
And that that is true for every sentient being as well.
Meditate on that.
Because what we call our soul is more properly called our spirit.
And the first thing to understand is that Jesus didn't invent eternal life.
Eternal life is as much celestial mechanics as the bolide and the stars.
All we can do in our lives is improve or disimprove It's quality.
The spiritual life is here as the Egyptian Book of the Dead indicates.
It is not the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
It is the Book of the Transformations of Life.
That's its real title.
And the idea is that the shamanic knowledge, the ancient revelation, the truth of beginnings, is that we are all involved in a process of eternal life, be it on this planet or elsewhere.
It's always been like that.
So, to prepare ourselves for whatever may come, be it all together with the bolide or one by one as is normal, or how to greet the day with a light heart and joy, whether it be for any of those things and perhaps for all of them, what we need to do is to meditate on what I just said.
Does that help you, ma'am?
Yes.
I have a couple more questions related to that.
Oh boy, I have so many questions.
Even though Jesus said, Be not afraid, I am sometimes.
Primal fear.
But when I'm not afraid, it's the opposite feeling, which I think is what you just described, the feeling of great love and connection to everything.
Primal fear and primal ecstasy balanced against one another in such a way That it is awesome, and that the ecstasy is just slightly dominant, but the fear does not go away.
That was my next question.
Is love the strongest force in the universe?
I think you already answered that.
Yes, I think so.
Do Celtic people have sort of an edge on this?
Yes, indeed they do.
The reason is that the Celtic people are very close to their shamanic origins, just exactly like the American native people.
I've had these questions since I was five years old and no one could answer them.
I drove my mother nuts.
Well, you see, you have good questions.
Thank you.
Is there one true church like the Mormons say there is?
Well, let me tell you about that.
The only true church is the Church of Humpty Dumpty.
Now let me tell you what I mean by that.
The story of Humpty Dumpty sitting on the wall Yes, of course.
The good news is he was once altogether on the wall.
The bad news is that he's fallen off and gone to a thousand pieces, and the politicians can't put him back together.
All right?
Now, what we need to do is to realize that in our hearts, we all have the power to time travel, as it were, back to that place where Humpty Dumpty was on the wall.
And that's the true church, and that's the origin, and this is what we all have in common.
And the good news is, we have the power to do that.
And if the world is to be saved from its confusion, it will be because on the 100th Monkey Internet, we help each other do exactly that, and quit fighting about what we differ about, and understand how real that agreement truly is in the nature and the function of the universe.
All right.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hello, Art.
Hello, sir.
Hi, this is Nelson from the WLS area of Chicago.
Father, my question to you is, do you see a chance of the churches going back to their shamanic roots, Judaism going back to their shamanic roots, or is everybody going to have to leave the churches?
This is sad.
Dissuade people from their shamanic roots.
That is the problem.
Precisely, you've got it right on the head.
On the barrel head, I might say.
But the thing is that, what I say to people, never leave the religion of your mother's womb.
Only go within it until you find the place from which it came.
And you will find everybody else there with you.
Now, what I mean by that is, This is the Gospel, it's in the Gospel, according to John, in the story of the woman at the well.
And here's what Jesus says to her.
Alright?
I know, I've read it, read it in the Greek, and here's what he really says.
And in Greek it says, Numaha Phaos, which is, Spirit is the God.
Now listen to that.
That's kind of different.
Spirit is the God, he says, my dear.
My dear, Spirit is the God, and so are you.
And if you would relate to God, It is spirit to spirit that you must do it.
Where, when, and with whom is a matter of secondary importance.
What Jesus is saying is the words of a pure shaman.
Jesus is one.
And he's telling us all we should be too.
Father, when did you first connect with Zacharias Sitchin?
Oh, quite a while ago.
I would say maybe six years.
Six years ago.
When you first heard the zachariah
uh... did it did it hit you like uh... a brick falling on your head
or did did you assimilate it slowly and uh... sort of
prove it to yourself one little proof at a time well let me say that
i read his book long before i met him uh... the twelfth planet
i read that right after it came out and i don't remember how long ago that was it was all quite
a while quite a while
and i didn't understand it at all i read the whole thing through and i put it aside and said
oh that's interesting And that was about it.
But then a good friend of ours came by here, Dr. Ed, and invited Sakharovich into town.
And a big turnout came and I went.
And after listening to him talk, I said, wait a minute, I think I read that book.
I think I better read it again.
And I went and read it again and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
And instead of being scandalized or upset, I said, well, that makes sense.
And everything's been making better sense ever since.
Now, here's an interesting question that you're not going to be able to answer, but may be part of it.
Somebody writes, what is the name of the liberal bishop who agreed with him, meaning you?
You're not obviously going to give the name, but would you characterize the bishop you spoke to as liberal?
No.
You wouldn't?
No.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hi there.
How are you?
This is Karen in Houston.
Hi, Karen.
Hi, Art.
Father, in the Celtic tradition, I know that, like in the movie Willow that Ron Howard did, there were the Tuatha de Danann, which means people of Danu, which I think tied in.
Tuatha de Danann, yes, indeed.
Yes, and Robert the Bruce was trying to return Scotland to the Celtic belief.
That's right.
And so he understood what you understand.
Yep.
Also, the Library of Alexandria, we lost so much when that was destroyed.
Absolutely.
Burned with the Christians.
Right.
Do you think, like, the Nag Hammadi Scrolls, the Dead Sea Scrolls, is this us slowly getting back some of what we've lost?
Well, I have good news for you.
Yes, it is.
And I have good news for you.
Yes?
They found out that the Library of Alexandria had a basement.
Uh-huh.
And the basement was not burned and was underwater.
And they're beginning to bring up all those books.
These are second copies, but they're... We're beginning to find that the Library of Alexandria isn't totally gone after all.
Isn't that fun?
And the shamanic part that you're talking about with Christ, in the book of Thomas from the Nag Hammadi Scrolls, he does have that quoting there that I have faxed some time back, and I think you're bringing that back out again, where he says, "...bring forth that which is within you, and what you bring forth will save you.
If you do not bring forth what is within you, then it will destroy you."
Is this what you're talking about?
That's right.
Because that which is within you is the Spirit.
Yes.
And it will turn you into a curdled mass of fear unless you do with it what it's supposed to do, which is to manifest it.
Right.
In other words, when you understand things and you have certain knowing, you should share it and not just keep it to yourself or manipulate it in the wrong ways because it will, like... Yes, but I would give a caution with that.
Yes.
Masters do not teach dogma.
Right.
They teach Dharma, and the difference is that Dogma tells you what you must do, and Dharma suggests to you what you might do.
And that keeps you from crossing wires with the free will of things, right?
Exactly.
You never order people around.
You only suggest to them where they might look, because you know perfectly well nobody believes what people tell them.
All of us only believe what we find out for ourselves, and the only way we can help each other To help each other find out without preempting the process.
In other words, leading others to personal experience.
Exactly.
All right.
Father, a million people are going to want to get hold of you.
Is there an email address, a website, a regular mail address, or anything you can... There's an email address.
Okay.
You might find it interesting.
The real name of Merlin is Mordoon.
And much hangs by that.
Now, curiously, my last name is Moore, and therefore I have taken that name.
Moordoon, A-O-L dot com.
Okay, spell that for me, please.
M-O-O-R-D-U-N-E.
D-U-N-E, as in sand dunes.
M-O-O-R-D-U-N-E.
D-U-N-E, yes.
N as in?
As in Ned, yes.
As in Nora.
Right.
Oh, Mordoon.
Mordoon.
Okay, that's M-O-O-R-D-U-N as in Nora, E at AOL.com.
Yes, sir.
You will get mail.
Okay.
Believe me, that's M-O-O, all lowercase?
Uh, yeah.
M-O-O-R-D-U-N as in Nora, E at AOL.com.
Alright.
Correct, yes.
Good.
East of the Rockies, you're on air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hello.
Going once.
Going twice.
Gone.
West of the Rockies, you're on air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Yes.
All right.
Father Moore, I want to just make this comment of my gratitude.
I left home as a young boy during the Depression.
And later on in life I had spiritual intrusions and because I didn't want to get locked up I went to the Indians and lived with them for several years, medicine people.
Yes.
And you talk the shamanism life which I lead and you are just so right on but I have never heard it explained in rational terms, I've just practiced it.
Well congratulations and welcome home.
What you say is absolutely so right on.
I want to share this with you then.
I go to Montana all the time and up there I have met a very marvelous Indian shaman called Longstanding Bear Chief, a chief of the Blackfoot.
I talked to him about this and I said, Bear Chief, I want to try out a definition of shamanism on you and want to see what you think.
And I said to him what I say of shamans.
A shaman is a person who discovers in their heart that all things are made of spirit.
He couldn't say anything because he started to cry.
And after he had cried, he looked at me again and said, You're a Catholic priest?
And I said, That's right.
He said, Will you come up here next summer?
And spend some time with us and tell my people that?
If you do, we might get our dignity.
Please come.
You know, Father, it's very interesting because I did an entire program with some Hopi elders.
As a matter of fact, it was pretty arduous because we translated as we went.
We had a translator and we did a whole show with Hopi elders.
Yes.
And they virtually said, from what they know, exactly what you have said with regard to the bolide.
They said it in a slightly different way, but they said exactly the same thing.
Hobie legend actually ties exactly and precisely in with what you have said tonight about the coming bolide.
Are you aware of that?
Yes, I am aware of it.
I have been down there to the bases.
And I spent time with Thomas Binyaka and his wife Fermina, and I am familiar with that.
I've also been to Guatemala and visited with the Maya in the highlands, and found there exactly the same prediction and the same idea.
However, there I found something else, which is the prayer of the shaman.
The archetypal prayer of the shaman.
It's very short.
All right.
Well, it'll have to hold for the bottom of the hour.
We'll be right back.
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Interestingly, I've got a fax here from Richard Hoagland, who is up in Seattle, and I can't read it all.
Richard, you've got to work on your handwriting.
But he says, Art, the object the Good Father is describing is, in fact, one of the, and I can't make it out, meteors, which we have discussed.
The Black Ops people, then, something about, are going to try to shift it out of the way if they choose to, as Tom Bearden and I have pointed out several weeks ago, That's from Richard Hoogland, still in Seattle, so I didn't quite get it all, but it's an obvious reference to what my guest father, Charles Moore, has been saying tonight.
Well, I'll tell you, when you sit in the seat I'm sitting in, on any given night, you never,
ever know what you're going to walk into, and this is a perfect example.
Well, all right, in a moment, it's back to Father Charles Elmore.
I I have two books that I have written, folks.
And actually, these books, I think, will give you some insight, perhaps even to my recent absence.
Certainly the first book, The Art of Talk.
It is about my life.
It's a hardcover book.
It covers a lot of behind-the-scenes talk radio.
It was a very frank, very blunt, very coarse, very accurate description of my life.
It's all laid out.
It's updated from the original version.
Very much updated.
Has 60 photographs.
And you can see me from when I bloated my mother's belly until now.
That's the truth.
The other book I wrote is called The Quickening, and when I reread my own book, I quake a little bit at it.
It involves a lot of events that are going on right now, and actually, you know, it actually relates to what we're discussing with Father Moore tonight.
The course of human events right now, in every area, political, environmental, social, every aspect of human endeavor appears to be quickening, and I'm not a prophet, nor am I a priest, but I know, and I have known for some time, I wrote this a couple of years ago, now more than that, and I know something is coming, deep within me, Within every fiber of me, I know it's coming, and I document how I know that in this book, which was on the New York Times bestseller list for a long time and is still selling like crazy.
Now, every Christmas, this Christmas being no exception, but this may be the last one, I offer my books.
Actually, the Art of Talk, first time for that.
Autographed editions, and it's going to be the last Christmas.
I can only sign so many.
There's only so many hours in any given day.
So if you would like my books, The Art of Talk and The Quickening, and or The Quickening, individually they're $24.95.
The Art of Talk is 260 pages.
The Quickening, 336 pages.
Art of Talk is 260 pages, the quickening 336 pages.
They're $24.95 each, or if you buy both, you get two autographed editions.
And I think this may be the final time I ever offer this for $44.95 plus shipping and handling.
And there are a limited number of copies available, signed copies.
Believe me, limited.
The number is 1-800-864-7991.
You can call right now.
800-864-7991. You can call right now. 1-800-864-7991. And we're certainly not going to make it to
Christmas.
I can tell you that.
I will call a halt to this with no notice.
I give you warning now.
One night I will simply say, over.
And it'll be pretty soon.
1-800-864-7991.
Alright, Father Moore, welcome back.
six four seven nine nine one
all right father more of welcome back you said there was uh... the prayer of the shame
right through that record and need to give a number where you can get his book
book heaven and our hope heaven and earth Oh, of course.
And there's an article in there by me which you might find interesting.
Oh, there is?
Yeah.
Alright.
And the number is 888-519-8484.
is 888-519-8484. I told Zachariah I'd give that number out if I had a chance.
Okay, that's 888-519-8484.
Correct.
Okay, Zachariah might have warned me a little what I was going to walk into when I put you on the air.
Oh well.
The Prayer of the Shaman.
The Prayer of the Shaman.
May the heart of earth flow to the heart of the heavens through my heart.
And may my heart be the heart of every sentient being.
Very good.
Father, I've got a piece of email here, and you're going to get a lot like this, but I suppose you're used to it.
I think it comes from a fundamentalist.
Let me read it and let you respond.
As Father Martin, Malachi Martin, told you, there are a great number of satanic followers who have permeated the church.
Truly.
This Father Moore is an example of how seductively deceitful Satan can make his message appear.
The Lord promises us through the Holy Spirit the power of discernment of spirits.
It is with this gift, after prayerful consideration, I say Father Moore's view is obviously closer to witchcraft
than Christianity.
Mark in Indiana.
Well, that is exactly a fundamentalist response and is exactly what I would expect.
But I will tell you that I've been there myself.
I know what he's doing and I understand it.
The thing is that, remember what I said about primal fear?
Yes, sir.
Primal ecstasy?
This is a response of primal fear.
I have sympathy for it.
Here's another one.
No one should consider what this father says about the Bolide or anything else he says is of any value.
He values his own opinion over that of Jesus Christ and the Apostles.
In the Catholic Church, once a father, always a father, but that does not mean that you speak for the church.
This man is speaking on behalf of Satan.
Same group, huh?
Hell, that one.
Alright.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Father Charles Moore.
Hi.
Peace to you, Art, and peace to you, Father.
My name's Tom.
I'm in South Carolina.
Hi, Tom.
I have a question regarding the natural world, the supernatural world, and the pre-natural world, and how that relates to the transfiguration of Jesus Christ, as said, as written in the second book of Peter in the Gospel.
The Apostles are supernatural as I am, being part physical and part spiritual.
Right.
Jesus is part physical and part divinity.
Where and His angels are pre-natural?
As in the angels, Christ's angels, as they were created as pure spiritual beings, are they pre-natural?
Is that pre-natural?
Is there a difference between prenatural and divinity, as Jesus Christ is divinity?
I'm a remembering Catholic.
I'm remembering myself into the Catholic faith, and these are some questions that I would like to ask you.
Well, those are very good questions, and I've thought about them a great deal.
The way I like to approach that is to say it's a problem of the meaning of the word supernatural.
We get a lot of that in the Catholic Church, supernatural.
And supernatural is taken to be outside of the order of nature, right?
Beyond the order of nature.
Well, that's a word which was conceived in a two-dimensional world.
Now that we see how many dimensions there may be in the universe, the entire thing becomes a matter of dimensionality.
That's one way to approach it.
And that, whereas it might be said that we Have some awareness and ability to act within three of the most four dimensions.
The divinity from which we come has a capacity to operate in any number of dimensions we can't imagine.
And that of course is supremely, I would call that supernatural.
I would call that supremely natural.
And that is exactly how I view the Creator.
The Creator is supremely natural and therefore the order and the operator and the author of nature.
And that, as far as Jesus is concerned, however, the Church of Jerusalem, which is the original church that followed Jesus, by the way, it is not the one that followed Peter, it is the one that followed James, his brother.
They are called the Ebionites, and these people did not regard Jesus in any way except as the Jewish Messiah, and as such, He's no more God than you are.
And as a matter of fact, he said as much to the Pharisees.
They were going to stone him for claiming he was God.
He looked back at them and said, Oh, does that surprise you?
Haven't you read adjoining scripture?
That you are all gods?
And left it at that.
In other words, he's no more God than you are.
The only difference between him and you He's a great deal more aware of what that means.
Yeah, don't you know that you are all gods?
Would that relate?
When we talk of the saints and their being close to Jesus and his mother Mary and to God the Father and God the Holy Spirit, are they not close to being divinized as was promised to us all?
Can we break away from the grip that the natural world has on us and become spiritual and direct our lives towards our spirituality?
Well, that is precisely the idea.
And the thing is, I like to express it a little differently.
The way you can understand it best is to use the Buddhist word for it, which is illumination.
Illumination means exactly what you just said.
It's the realization of your spiritual nature and its power.
And to realize that and act in accordance with it, as Jesus says, is the will of God.
Alright, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art, and may I say what a bona fide pleasure and privilege it is to finally talk to you on the air.
Thank you.
I have two observations, and I'll try to make them as quick as possible.
All right, where are you, by the way?
I'm in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, catching you on WTMJ AM.
OK.
OK?
The first one is a small observation.
I wonder if this potential impact may have anything to do with the fact that, according to your show, the Hubble telescope is shut down for two years?
That's what they're saying.
They're going to shut down the Hubble for two years of maintenance.
I thought though the more interesting consideration was the hurried red tape slashing observatory that the Vatican got up on Mount Graham in Arizona.
The second and possibly more intriguing observation I have is say we do have a mass extinction event in June or as Nostradamus said in July.
Uh, where does that leave the Antichrist?
I mean, it would seem to me that, uh, world destruction, that would leave the Antichrist with his finger in an uncomfortable place.
Where he's been promised world domination, the years of control and everything, and suddenly they're not following the demonic script.
You understand what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, it's like he's supposed to have control.
If this wipes everything out, well, that throws out the other, the other potential, uh, Cataclysm we're supposed to have, only this would be a cataclysm of world domination and everything.
The two don't seem to jibe.
Well, here we have the problem of spiritual predictions, which is a very serious problem, because it raises the entire question of just who was this fellow talking to?
Now, that is, the people who had the revelation.
There's a very important thing behind that and I think I need to address that with you.
This is called dream vision.
Here's a statement for you.
Dream vision is the normative mode by which human beings experience communication with their Creator.
Right.
That's point number one.
Point number two is that the entire Judeo-Christian scripture, the Bible, is a record of dream visions from beginning to end.
Everything in it is the product or involved with or related to dream vision.
Read the whole thing with that in mind and you will come up with an astonishing point.
So you would regard the Antichrist as sort of like the boogeyman of our dreams?
That's right.
Ah, okay.
Okay.
Well, that certainly answers my question.
It sure does.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Father Charles Moore.
Good morning.
Yes, good morning, Art.
Where are you?
I'm in Wilmington, Delaware, listening on WTEL.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
Art, I just want to say it's good to have you back on the air, and thank you for getting the truth out there.
Believe me, it's good to be here.
That was very fascinating.
Thank you.
I'm a former Catholic who embraced Islam, and I'm also an amateur astronomer.
Can you tell me, Father, I agree with you on Paul.
I actually believe that Paul was an enemy of Christ, Paul being a Greek, and I believe that he is the one who deified Christ to the point where they made him the Son of God.
I believe that Jesus was a Mighty prophet, messenger of God, or a shaman, as you say.
Yes.
Father, how or can you give me an opinion or your opinion?
How would Prophet Muhammad who lived 600 years after Jesus Christ?
How would Prophet Muhammad and the scripture that was revealed to him the Holy Quran?
How would this?
come into play in the spiritual sense and can we reach that spiritual
achievement through the Islamic faith and I'll just hang up listen to your reply. Thanks, sir. All
right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Go ahead father Well, first of all, thank you very much for asking that
question. I I really like that question.
That's one of my favorite things.
I call it not Christianity, but Judeo-Islamo-Christianity, okay?
I have a little... a thing was given to me here, a sort of a staff.
And on it was a little note that said, to Father Charlie, the first patriarch of Judeo-Islamo-Christianity.
Well, I'll include Buddhism and all the rest of them for that matter, but let's take it with that tradition, because that is a definite tradition altogether.
The Koran is a beautiful book.
The Koran is a highly spiritual book.
And that, I will say, and that Islam is at least as valid in every respect as a pathway to revelation
as any other religion including Christianity. In fact, I believe that Islam is closer to the original teachings of
Jesus than the Catholic Church is.
Father, I should ask you now while I have a moment, all my guests
all guests I have on as I approach this hour, I try to ask them
whether they're growing tired and wish to go to bed or I have one more hour of radio program and you're welcome to
it if you wish it.
I am?
Oh, you are, yes.
Oh, well.
I'd be happy to.
All right.
In that case, let's try and squeeze one more in.
West of the Rockies, you're on air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hi.
Good evening, gentlemen.
Good evening.
This is Brian from Phoenix.
The first thing I'd like to do is to tell you and all your listeners, That movie, Somewhere in Time.
Make sure you rent it and buy the soundtrack.
Good for you.
Great, great movie.
When did you see it?
You know, real funny, I was like 13 or 14 and my mother took me to go see the movie and I thought, oh, this is going to suck.
This is going to be a stupid movie.
And by the end of the movie, I'm telling you, I was moved to tears.
It's not a girly movie.
It's not a guy movie.
It's an everybody movie, like you were saying.
That's right.
I mean, if you have any kind of heart, you need to see that movie.
That's exactly what I told my audience.
I said it's not a chick flick.
You should have seen some of the angriest things I got from it.
I can't believe that.
Christopher Reeves, Jane Seymour, an outstanding movie.
That's right.
Listen, we don't have a lot of time.
My question is, Father, can you find religion And what you do for a living.
I mean, you know, like what you do for a living.
It's the reason why I'm asking this is because I kind of have a unique job.
And what I do is, well, sometimes I think it's kind of bad.
What do you do?
Well, you guys are gonna laugh and your course, your listeners are gonna laugh.
But I'm a disc jockey at a topless club.
So there I said it, you know, and I have fun.
It's great.
It's a wonderful atmosphere.
Everybody makes money.
And somewhat of a religious experience for you, eh?
Well, not just a religious experience.
I'm just wondering, you know, well, maybe... Is it bad?
Is it good?
I don't know.
Maybe... I'm dying to make a comment here, but not while a good father is around.
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I can't do And I imagine a giant disturbance in the force.
I can almost close my eyes and visualize it.
Father Moore will be right back.
Okay, here we go.
Um, and I wouldn't...
Father, are you there?
Yes, I am here.
Good, all right.
Well, we've got one final hour to go, and I wouldn't resist for all the tea in China bringing back our friend, a DJ at a topless place, looking for religion at work.
That's a real good idea.
Not a bad place to look for it.
Now, let me say, Am I there?
You're there.
Can I say one thing?
Sure.
I don't know if I'm trying to justify myself here, but I have been doing it now for approximately four years.
The money is really good.
Actually, what I'm really trying to do is be an internship at KFYI here.
In Arizona, I go down there and I bug them at least twice a month, and of course I can't get in, but I'm trying.
Well, just keep pounding on the door, that's the way it works.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing and stuff.
Art knows something about that sort of thing.
All I can say is, you know, what do you think, father?
Art, father?
Father, I'm going to let you comment, because a thousand lines have come to mind that I have appropriately swatched already.
Right now I'm chain-smoking thinking of your comment.
I'm dying, I'm dying.
Well, you give me the opportunity, I want to talk about the word, religion.
Religion has become a bad word in our society, and you say it should be spiritual instead.
But the thing is, it's because people don't know what the word religion means and because it's become associated with the idea of having an argument.
Now, the thing is, the word religion is very good.
It comes from a Latin verb, ligo, ligare, ligavi, ligatus, which means to bind, b-i-n-d, bind.
It's about bonding.
And as I say to people when they get married, the purpose of marriage is to teach you the difference between bonding and bondage.
Okay?
Bonding is wonderful, bondage is terrible.
They both sound alike, but they're very different.
And that's true of religion too.
Now, the thing is, what is this bonding?
And the bonding that religion is about is the bonding between spirits.
Yours and the spirit of your beloved.
Whoever the beloved happens to be.
And therefore, what this means is that primarily, unless you have a spiritual view of life, religion is very difficult for you, because physical bonding is clumsy, whereas spiritual bonding is very refined and powerful.
And the purpose of our lives, and what we call love, what is love?
Love is the bonding of the spirit.
That's what it is.
Love is the ecstasy of bonding, in fact.
Now, that that bonding can be from physical sources only is certainly true in a certain way, but it's a piker compared to the other one.
So what we really live for is spiritual bonding, because from that we get the meaning of life.
Now, wherever you are, and with whomever you are, you should be practicing your spiritual bonding.
Distracted by physical beauty or not?
Now let me put it another way.
There is another comparison between love and ecstasy.
Not between love and ecstasy, between love and lust.
And here's what I've learned, I think, about this.
Love, well, it's motivated by compassion.
Well, it's motivated by envy.
And there's a meditation for you.
And if you look at yourself and find that you're being motivated by envy, I would say that you probably better do something else.
But if you can find a way to be motivated by compassion wherever you are and in whatever circumstances, I would say you're doing the right thing.
Go for it.
All right.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Yes, good morning.
Where are you?
This is Robert calling from Key West, Florida.
Key West.
Way down there.
Yeah, I picked up your show for the first time during the blackout down here during Hurricane George.
Oh, yes.
And I've been with you ever since.
It's a wonderful program.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
My question for Father Moore is, is he familiar with the case of Father Mario Mazzolini, the Roman Catholic priest from Italy?
Who traveled to India over a period of, I'd say, 12 or 14 years and had an experience of Christ in the person of Sri Sathya Sai Baba from the small village in South India known as Puttaparthi.
Who kicked him out for it.
Who was, yeah, excommunicated.
Well, I've seen Sai Baba twice.
Just listening to your response to the listener previously about It seemed to me to be a rather interesting position that
the church would excommunicate a man for spreading what he believed to be just a
compassionate experience with a wider audience through his books and I understand he has a radio
program in Italy, although I haven't heard it.
Would you have any further comment on that?
Well, I am not very pleased with the church in the matter of excommunication.
And I am certainly not pleased with the Church in the matter of the Inquisition.
And excommunication is a tool of the Inquisition.
And the Inquisition is giving God a bad reputation.
And so consequently, whenever the Church resorts to these means, I feel that it's operating outside its constitution.
Might a person inquire, Father, how you have avoided to this date excommunication?
It just never comes up.
This is a large national radio program.
Yes.
It may come up now.
It may.
How would you react to it?
I would tell them that the fact is, as you know perfectly well from the theology I learned in the seminary as a lawyer, you can throw me out, but I won't quit.
Alright, wild card line, you're on the air with Father Charles L. Morheim.
Good evening, guys.
Father, last night I happened to get through and I was talking about my opinion of religion and why I didn't attend church.
I'm sure there's a church out there where I could feel comfortable, but my basic point was that the church entity state tries to dictate the terms and how you should structure your religious beliefs.
And that's why I left.
And I was going with the philosophy on what's in my heart And an hour ago you said, like the Indians say, always stick to your religion that you came in the womb out of.
Now, Joseph Campbell, have you ever seen any of his tapes?
Oh yes, I've taught courses on him.
Right.
He basically sums it all up as, you know, from the New Guinean ritual to Star Wars to a Woody Allen monologue, Greek mythology, we're all one in the sense of duality.
Now that sustains my philosophy and how I believed before I even heard of his tapes, and then you're saying basically the same thing.
So, you know, though we have most societies saying, well, this is the new age thing, and this is the hidden stuff you should stay away from, and this is how they try to suck you in, blah, blah, blah.
Why does a church in a state seem so defensive and ridiculing?
I mean, what's your opinion on that?
Well, my opinion is, on that, that the church has been corrupted by imperialism.
The church is the product of the Holy Roman Empire whose purpose was to exploit the world.
Interpreting Jesus as a teacher of exploitation is an oxymoron.
Jesus is a bringer of freedom, not of slavery.
He's not about exploitation, but about compassion.
As I restate the last, the middle four commandments, God speaks, as it were, and says, if you want to put it in commandment terms, which I don't like either, but nonetheless, As for thy neighbor, thou shalt have compassion with him, and thou shalt not exploit him.
And that's what the Ten Commandments really say.
Wow, very interesting.
Okay?
And so therefore, whenever a religion becomes a means of exploitation, it's an oxymoron.
That makes a lot of sense, and that just sustains what I believe the whole time.
Now, one last thing, this extraterrestrial thing that we're seeing nowadays more than ever, Yes.
This may sound shocking to the church, or maybe they're trying to get it out.
I mean, you can't just come on air and shock the nation.
You've got to slowly bleed this stuff out.
Correct?
Well, that's the general view, yeah.
But how long do you think, in your opinion, will the public really know the truth of extraterrestrial biological entities and their existence, and or their direct influence in the political world?
Well, let me answer that.
In this book that I mentioned, Heaven and Earth, by Zachariah Sitchin, the article that I write talks directly about that in terms of the movie Encounters of the Third Kind.
Encounters of the Third Kind was based upon the French Department of UFOs.
Now, most Americans don't know that they have a cabinet-level department in France devoted to UFOs.
And I read an article in L'Express, in the French, Many years ago, in which the head of the department had published an article about the results of getting together in that department in France, millions of sightings all over the world.
I guess they're still doing it.
And then coming up with, by computer matching, with some kind of commonality between these sightings.
And he said, after all of that, we have an opinion, we have two opinions.
Or a combination of them, which are the only possibilities, logically, that we find can remain.
Either we are being visited by people from another system, whose concern for our welfare passes our understanding, or else, there is an outbreak of what Carl Jung called the human unconscious, unparalleled in the history of the race.
In either case, or in a combination of them, It is the most significant event of the 20th century.
Well, I sure agree with that.
How about that?
I've got a rather interesting fact here from somebody named Ray.
I can vouch for the fact that Father Moore is indeed a Catholic priest, but I'll bet he never told you he was the district attorney in Santa Cruz, California in the early 50s.
I did say that.
That's true?
That's true.
I was the elected District Attorney of Santa Cruz County, California, at the age of 26.
You have led some life, haven't you?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Father Charles Moore.
Hi.
Good morning, everybody.
Good morning.
This is Mark.
I'm listening to WRBZ in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Yes, sir.
I've been a bit of a spiritual warrior for my entire life, ever since early childhood.
uh... through the power of the father of the son of the holy spirit
uh... i've tried to be a thorn in satan's side so to speak uh...
and i've come like a through another inch in his plans tonight that i've
understood from inside sources that in june of nineteen ninety nine
there's possibly going to be a great social upheaval instigated by
uh... true satanist when you say you've heard this from inside sources
what do you mean well uh...
a friend of mine who's uh...
knows certain people have said that uh... acting like pat b on the radio that was uh...
you spoke to earlier had interview with one time said that uh... true satanist are in hiding
at this point because they're planning getting guns together and
getting food supplies and they're basically going to try to attempt a
final sort of battle
against goodness and righteousness and uh...
uh... he he he My friend believes in Jesus as the Christ.
However, he still studies Wiccanism.
He has certain knowledge of people that have actually hidden out and are planning to cause great chaos coming up in June.
I was wondering if a good doctor had heard anything about that.
Well, if you take a look at Malachy Martin's book on windswept house, you will find that he has some very interesting material in there for you.
does happen. If you take a look at Malachy Martin's book on windswept house, you will
find that he has some very interesting material in there for you. The material is placed in
sectional form, but when it was asked on Art Belshow, I understand, what he said was that
Whether it was fiction, Lee said no.
It's not.
He wrote it as fiction intentionally because to write it any other way probably would have resulted in some sort of very serious danger for him, and he as much as said that.
Well, that's what I thought.
Now, the thing is that the key place, the big scandal event that occurred was in South Carolina, right?
Remember that?
And that there was a hook-up, somehow, between the Vatican, and not the Vatican authorities, but a Vatican chapel, and a South Carolina chapel, and that in South Carolina, and I will not name the Cardinal, but a Catholic Cardinal presided at a ceremony in which the Catholic Church was dedicated to the devil.
It's true.
It's certainly true that Father Martin And he's a Vatican exorcist and comes from the inside circles of the Vatican.
He does.
And he proclaims this event as the very center of his book, Whence Left House.
Now, I am shocked, of course, to read that by him, but I would be not the last person in the world to deny it might be possible.
The thing is, this raises the question of the satanic influence, which comes up all the time.
And, first of all, I would tell you that, I'll repeat what I said earlier.
The thing is that Satan, or Beelzebub, or Hazazel, or by whatever name you wish to call this being, is clearly a Sumerian god.
Having the powers of suggestion, and the powers of telepathic communication, which can cause great havoc.
And that this personage is given, in the Book of Enoch, credit for the reason why the gods did not rescue human beings, because he had messed us up so badly.
And the idea is, of course, that this is Ossel, survived the flood, and is still giving us problems.
And if we want to deal with the fact that the gods may still be with us, and I asked Zechariah that, when are the gods coming back, Zechariah?
And he said, what makes you think they ever left?
And the good news is that the gods are just like us, and the bad news is the gods are just like us.
And if we can be angelic, we can be diabolical.
And if the gods can be angelic, they can be diabolical, and believe me, they are.
And so consequently, the likelihood of such an event is extremely high.
The interesting thing here is that the date, July 6th, right?
Yes.
July 6th is the date that Nostradamus gives for the bolide.
June 30th is the one that Graham Hancock gives, and Fatima.
But the date of the bolide is given as July 6th.
And I suspect that all of this has something to do with that prediction by Nostradamus.
In other words, that such an outbreak is likely at that time because of the fact that that is the day of the predicted catastrophe, which would make the whole thing irrelevant otherwise.
Indeed.
Father, hold on.
Let me get a couple of things on the air here at a break point.
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You know, I was just on my own website.
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bell Well, good morning father Charles L. Moore is my guest and
he'll be back in a moment You know, I was just on my own website. I do that every now
and then and there is an interview that I did with the the New Times and
I'm sitting here reading the interview myself and going well
Wow, that's a pretty good interview.
I had forgotten that I even gave the interview.
I've given so many and somehow Keith got hold of it.
And the entire interview is up there, uh, chariot.
And, uh, it's, um, it's a very, it's actually a very good interview.
It's kind of funny to sit here and read your own words coming back at you so much later and thinking, Yeah.
You know, I said the right things.
I said what I meant.
It's a pretty long interview, so if you get an opportunity to go to my website, as a matter of fact, there are all kinds of things to see up there.
That interview you can read.
There is a 1978 UFO photograph, quite a good one, ostensibly taken in Pahrump.
There is the Fatima website link now that Keith just got up there.
And there is a brand new ghost photo.
Don't forget, we're going to tell ghost stories tomorrow night.
Boy, are we going to tell ghost stories.
There is a ghost photograph from the year 1916 in Kansas that you really ought to take a look at.
All of that is up on my website right now.
Father Moore will be right back.
Alright.
With that, we go into the final segment with Father Moore.
You've held up very well, Father, indeed.
Well, takes one to know one, right?
I guess so.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Good morning.
Hi, Art.
Hi there.
Good morning.
This is Wayne.
I'm calling you from Vancouver, B.C., 1410 C fund, where I listen to you.
But of course.
And I understand you're coming up here.
You mentioned that last night.
I am going to do a segment of Millennium, in which I'm going to get to play myself, which I think is going to be fun.
And they do their taping there in your fair city.
And it is a fair city.
God, it's a beautiful city.
Thank you.
Well, if I can be of any service to you when you're here, I'd be glad to help out.
So, you know, picking up at the airport, whatever.
I appreciate the offer.
Thank you.
And happy Thanksgiving to all Americans down there.
Thank you.
I've been listening to you for about a year and this program is number one tonight.
Father Moore, it's a real pleasure to speak with you.
Thank you.
You have elucidated and made so much sense of the whole religious, spiritual, etc.
I love what you're saying.
Something that you said is that if we don't have personal experiences a lot of this stuff just goes right over our heads.
When I'm 50 years old, when I was 11 I had a dream or a vision or whatever that I have always remembered.
Outstanding I was sort of above the planet or above the land the country and the entire land was on fire and I Believe that I love your your philosophy of There there is such hope and faith and and positiveness in what you're saying and I think when we are open to receive and When we are connected, we are warned, we are given signs
and if we are open and ready to allow that to come in and follow our intuition or whatever
our higher self is telling us that then we will be guided.
I don't go to church on any kind of a regular basis.
I've tried a few times, and it's just never kind of been the right thing for me.
But I will tell you, Father Moore, I would sure go to your church.
I'd be glad to have you.
You still conduct services, Father, from your home on Sundays?
Yes, I do.
Ten o'clock every morning, Pacific Grove, my house, 446 Buena Vista.
Now, what was that address again?
1246 Buena Vista, Pacific Grove.
All right.
93950.
All right.
Very good.
First time caller on the line.
You're on there with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm calling from Pasadena.
Pasadena.
Yes, sir.
Art, was it the New Times article you're referring to?
Is that the paper here in L.A.
by any chance?
No, it's Phoenix.
Okay.
The website is really great.
By the way, I'd love to check out your website.
It's great to listen to Father Moore tonight, and I wanted to I just relate that I was able to spend some time a few years back with a Hopi elder named White Bear.
If you're familiar with a seminal book called The Book of the Hopi, then you might know a little something about White Bear.
I don't know that he's a shaman, however, but he told me a lot of things about the Hopi prophecies, and I believe he was speaking in terms of Feeling that we were in the last ten minutes of what I think they called the fourth world or the fifth world.
Absolutely.
If you read or listen to Hopi Prophecy and you listen to what Father Morris said tonight, there are parallels all the way down the line.
Yeah, and White Bear was speaking at the Philosophical Research Society here in Los Angeles one day, and I got to ask him a question.
And I asked him, did he think that negative extraterrestrials were controlling the U.S.
government?
And most of the people laughed when I asked that question.
But they got quiet when he said, he kind of laughed and he said, and I remember his words exactly, he said, well of course they are, why do you think we're in the trouble we're in right now?
I don't know if he was speaking of extraterrestrials in a third dimensional sense or whether maybe he was referring
to multi-dimensional entities that he believes would possibly be influencing certain
decisions of our leaders.
But I wanted to kind of throw that over to Father Moore and see what he had to say about
that.
All right.
Father?
Well, that is on the question of subversion.
And Zachariah helps us out a lot with that.
The idea, and I brought this up before, that when human beings went through those genetic
experiments in East Africa 300,000 years ago and were produced to be workers, they were
also produced to be slaves.
And that the control factor in the gods is keeping us in a slavery mode.
And that the messiahs, when they come, always come to liberate us from that mode.
Now, the other part of that story is that Whenever a Messiah comes, a system of freedom of obtaining is set up by the Messiah.
This is how to be free.
Do this, this, and the other thing.
But what happens is that the other guys, the slave masters, always come in and take over the system.
And therefore, every Messiah system that's ever been set up has been converted eventually into a mode of slavery.
And if that is not still going on, I'd be surprised.
And I think that's what we're talking about here.
So do I. Wild Card Live, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hi.
Hello, Father Moore.
Yes.
Yes, I'm glad I'm not in a confessional right now.
I'm on the air.
That's good.
My name is Mario from San Francisco Marina.
Oh, Mario.
Yes.
And I got in with Art Bell the other night.
He heard me talking.
And I told him about my lock-ups.
I've been locked up ten times with psychiatric wards.
Oh yes, I recall.
And the reason being is that I would hear voices.
Now the first voice I got in contact with, Art, was Nikola Tesla.
Oh boy.
And what happened then was he kept going with me as if I were a robot.
Like a robot.
And I tell all the psychiatrists, I'm Nikola Tesla.
I'm writing.
And I wrote all kinds of stuff from Tesla.
All this stuff is written out.
So what I'm saying to you, Father, is now, I am truly one in being with the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit of Christ.
Yes?
And my being and my essence is that I am the point of node, which is the reference point of till yard.
Well, look, I'm not sure what all this is, but sir, listen to me for a second.
Can I ask Father a question?
Yes, listen to me.
If you really want to know whether you're channeling Nikola Tesla, No, I'm not telling him now.
Are Nikola Tesla.
Then take your works, not to a psychiatrist, but to a scientist.
Do you have a question?
Oh, yes.
I have a question for Father.
Father, I am God, who is the point of the Omega.
That didn't sound like a question to me.
That's a question for him.
Father, do you believe that I am Mario, God, the point of the Omega?
Father... You can only be agnostic on the point.
Okay?
Yeah, good for you.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Father Moore.
Hello.
Good evening, Father.
My name is Matt, and I'm from Madison, Wisconsin, listening on Broadcast.com.
Yes, sir.
My question for you tonight is twofold.
You said you still say the Mass, and I would like to know if you still say the traditional Tridentine Mass, which is the pre-1962 version, and I was also wondering if you follow the teachings of Father Nicholas Gruner.
To the second part, no.
The first part, I guess that's kind of difficult to answer exactly.
What I do do is I use many of the formulas of the Tridentine Mass, sometimes in Latin.
But the communion service, it's what I call the communion service.
I don't call it the Mass, but the Eucharist.
I have a very definite reason for that.
The essential notion of the consecration of the Body and Blood of Christ is at the very center of what I do.
Okay, that's always been a very center point of what I believe in, and it seems today that the traditional Mass, and I used to attend Fr.
Alfred Kunz's Masses in Damien, Wisconsin.
He was recently murdered in the last six months, and it has not been solved yet.
And he was very strong on the theology and the belief in the traditional Catholic Mass, and that today's Mass is very corrupting, Well, let me put it to you this way.
what Christ had endeared for us to believe in.
That's why I wanted to know what Father believed in as far as which version of the Mass he
said.
Well, let me put it to you this way.
What I do, I said, is to go to the root of the matter to find out exactly what's happening
in the consecration of the Mass and what exactly do we mean by the body and blood of Christ.
Now this is very difficult because the concept of the Mass that we generally get in catechism
is very pauline and very affected by what I call idolatrous notions.
Thank you.
Now the point is that we go back to the idea that everything is made of spirit and that somehow what we're doing here in communion, most people think communion is with Christ and of course it is.
But the communion we're after is with the Father.
It is the communion with God, the Creator, which we are really after.
And this is what Christ facilitates for us by the consecration of the Mass, okay?
Okay.
Jesus is there.
But Jesus is there to help you communicate between your spirit and the spirit of your Creator.
And that's the celebration of the Mass that I use.
That's very close to what I was taught.
I was taught at Fr.
Kunz's school.
He was very strict.
What he taught is that every person is made in the image and likeness of God.
Based on how we live our lives, we are a reflection of God.
We should be able to see God in each one of ourselves based on how we live our lives and how we treat one another.
That's right.
In other words, what I say is this.
Each of us has an obligation.
I've attended two lectures recently with a friend of mine in the last two months.
and all we contact all right was the rockies uh... you're on the air good
morning uh... good morning i are uh... i thought i'm more
uh... attended to lectures recently with a friend of mine in the last two
months one was with michael primo
and the other one was just last week with that graph fiction
uh... yeah i'm i'm gonna press Try that again if you would.
Zachariah is more of a historian.
Michael Cremo is more of a consolidator of scientific works.
Are you aware of Michael Cremo?
No, he has not come to me before this time.
Oh I'm on a phone and I can't hear very well.
Try that again if you would.
No, I don't know of him until you mentioned him.
Oh shoot.
Okay, well then it's almost futile for me to call but I do have one other question.
One of the previous callers mentioned, and you made a comment, that you think there's a possibility that this slavery sort of mentality is still going on.
If that is the case, what is the bottom line here?
Why would this Well, the answer to that is the reason why the gods made us.
Now, you see, the gods didn't make us, but the gods bred us up.
They interfered in the process.
Well, the answer to that is the reason why the gods made us.
Now you see, the gods didn't make us, but the gods bred us up.
They interfered in the process.
And the trouble was, according to the situation, that the native population of the earth was
simply involved with freedom and they made bad slaves and they weren't obedient.
And in order to make them obedient, the story goes, the gods had to breed them up with themselves
in order to produce an obedient race they could use.
The idea of that, of course, is that the whole history of human race as we know it is a quest
for that freedom which we lost by this interference that was done to us.
Now this covers a great many things, but this freedom that we seek in our hearts, and the
This is what our religions are supposed to do, is give us help in doing that.
Therefore the issue of freedom and slavery is a universal problem for the entire race
and we have not solved it.
I feel that we all feel this on a certain level.
I am so frustrated, especially in modern times, with our not only knowledge of science and
psychology and so many different areas of academia, why we cannot just more or less
recognize the truth that we have this wonderful potential and why don't we just overhaul the
system and get on with it.
Because we could have an oasis, this wonderful world on this beautiful jewel we live on.
You're absolutely right.
We continually get bogged down in garbage.
Well, you're absolutely right.
That is exactly the problem, and the mystery of life is what St.
Augustine said it was.
The mystery of evil is that we don't get on about our business.
Father, we're coming to the end of it here, the end of the time that I have available, period.
It has been absolutely fascinating.
I don't know how you have remained hidden.
To me until now, but I'm certainly glad that Zachariah Sitchin recommended I Have You On.
It has been worth every second of it.
Would you give your email address one last time, please?
Yes, Mordoon, M-O-O-R-D-U-N-E, mordoon at A-O-L dot com.
Okay.
Have you written a book?
No.
Are you going to?
Well, all kinds of people are on me to do that, and I probably will, but it hasn't happened yet.
So, no book to plug?
No book to plug.
Anything else you'd like to plug?
I mean, I owe you a lot for these four hours.
Well, I think it's the other way around, Art.
I really do.
Well, it certainly has been a pleasure having you on the air, and I hope you have a restful sleep.
Are you normally a stay-up-late kind of person?
No, I'm not.
But I find no trouble staying awake for you.
All right, my friend.
We'll do it again then sometime.
Take care, Father.
Thank you.
Blessings.
Bye.
Take care.
Well, well, well, well.
That, folks, was Father Charles L. Moore.
And as I said to him, I don't know how he has stayed hidden from me all this time.
Wasn't that remarkable?
Just remarkable.
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That's 1-800-917-4278.
And again, my book deal, The Art of Talk, The Quickening, autographed copies of both are available for just a little while longer at 1-800-864-7991.
917-4278 and again my book deal, The Art of Talk, The Quickening, autographed copies of
both are available for just a little while longer at 1-800-864-7991.
See I do have books to plug.
1-800-864-7991.
Tomorrow night, Ghost Stories.
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