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	Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 25th, 1998.
	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning wherever you may be across this great land of ours and well beyond.
	From the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands out west to the Caribbean in the east, south into South America, north all the way to the pole, And worldwide on the internet, thankyoubroadcast.com.
	This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell.
	Well, Happy Thanksgiving.
	If that's where you are, if you're in one of those time zones, Happy Thanksgiving.
	It is now racing across the country toward me, and I don't know how many miles an hour.
	I guess a time zone an hour.
	Maybe.
	That way.
	It'll be here at midnight, and, uh, I will have my Thanksgiving dinner, which I will tell you all about, uh, oh, I don't know, probably about three or four o'clock in the morning.
	That's the way it works around here, this household, where we keep rather strange hours.
	Next hour, we're going to be hearing from a prophet.
	His name is Alan Vaughn.
	He's written a new book called Visions of Nostradamus and Other Prophets.
	He is the world's most successful predictor.
	And this is not an idle claim.
	This is not, as I one night said, he builds himself.
	This is, as a matter of fact, documented very carefully.
	And he will obviously come on the air.
	He's a PhD.
	He'll come on the air and will make Predictions and talk to us about predictions.
	As a matter of fact, he even says he can teach you how to be a prophet.
	So it should be very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	In the meantime, let us see what is going on in the real world.
	Same old stuff.
	Same old, same old.
	Independent counsel Kenneth Starr and three of his prosecutors outlined during an interview Wednesday night what they felt were the more troubling aspects of their investigation of the president.
	Starr and his aides appearing on ABC News 2020.
	said Clinton's grand jury testimony in August and the discovery last January that in their view the President had tried to influence the testimony of Secretary Betty Curry disturbed them the most.
	From that came the allegations of perjury and jury tampering.
	Clinton Lewinsky answers do.
	This one is interesting.
	House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde warned Wednesday He would subpoena answers to 81 questions, not 20, but 81, mind you, that he had sent President Clinton, unless the written responses get there by Monday.
	The President's attorney responded, as the Chairman knows full well, we will be providing our response by Friday.
	Officials from both parties say it's very unlikely the panel will consider any articles of impeachment beyond the Monica Lewinsky affair.
	Dr. Jack Kevorkian was released on three-quarters of a million dollars personal bond after being arraigned Wednesday on charges of first-degree murder, criminal assistance to a suicide, and delivery of a controlled substance.
	The prosecutor who charged him, he brought it upon himself This broadcast on 60 Minutes, where Kevorkian assisted in the death of a man with Lou Gehrig's disease.
	And speaking of disease, here's a sad one.
	Michael J. Fox, who's only 37 years old, currently the star of TV's Spin City, is revealing that he has Parkinson's disease.
	By talking about the incurable disease, he feels he can help himself, his family, and sufferers of that disease.
	He will continue to work on the show.
	37 years old.
	A pretty tough rap at that age, a little early.
	When Melissa traded keys with her neighbor, she expected her old childhood friend to keep an eye on the home When her family was away and to use them only in an emergency.
	Instead, she and authorities contend Stephen Glover secretly installed a video camera in the attic above her and her husband's bedroom and then later moved the camera into the bathroom.
	Prosecutors say Glover admitted to the taping but she cannot be prosecuted for it because Louisiana, that's where this happened, New Orleans, has no law against it.
	Video voyeurism.
	Some states do have laws against it, and it seems to me there ought to be laws against it, and I'm surprised there isn't.
	There isn't.
	How many of you... Do you remember your childhood?
	What was the scariest movie for you when you were a child?
	For me, It was The Exorcist.
	My God, that movie scared me.
	Still does today.
	Really a scary movie.
	For others, it was Jaws.
	Real-life Jaws.
	Here comes a real-life Jaws story.
	Sonny Wilson tried desperately to pull his nine-year-old stepson away from whatever seemed to be pulling him beneath the waves.
	This is Vero Beach in Florida.
	James Tellesman was attacked about 40 yards offshore Saturday as his family and friends from the citrus growing area of Gifford spent the day at the beach about 70 miles north of West Palm Beach on Florida's Atlantic coast.
	The boy's body, headless and armless, was found offshore Sunday.
	A medical examiner later concluded the third grader was killed by a large shark But did not know what species.
	Wilson said that when he last saw James, the boy's face appeared calm.
	He was looking at me, but not saying anything, he said.
	Perhaps he was in shock.
	There was no screaming.
	The last recorded Florida death blamed on a shark took place a decade ago and involved a swimmer diving far from shore.
	So this one rings home kind of like the movie Horrible, huh?
	Check this out.
	Fort Collins, Colorado.
	Intense hurricane activity this year means worse, repeat, worse is on the way in coming seasons according to Colorado State University forecaster William Gray.
	He says next year we'll be calling for above average hurricane activity And we believe this is a reflection of the new hurricane era that we entered in 1995.
	And he went on, we expect this trend to continue, forget this, the next few decades.
	Gray, a professor of atmospheric sciences, who has issued hurricane forecasts now for 15 years, said he thinks the Atlantic Basin is in for years of increased hurricane activity well you may recall when we had Evelyn Paglini on the program we discussed uh... you see out here out here where I live you're allowed to bet on NFL football games and I do bet on NFL football games
	And everybody's got their nemesis, and for me, I can never win bets, albeit small bets.
	I bet small bets.
	I can never win bets that involve the Kansas City Chiefs.
	They always screw me up.
	It doesn't matter if I bet on them, they lose.
	If I bet against them, they win.
	And inevitably they screw me up just by a point or two on the spread.
	That's the important part out here.
	Win or lose.
	And so, jokingly, six weeks ago or so, when I had Evelyn on the show, I asked if it were possible to put a curse on a professional football team so they would fumble the ball and not do well, and they lost.
	They lost the next six consecutive games.
	I get a lot of hate mail from Kansas City, let me tell you.
	I get a lot of hate mail from Kansas City.
	So, here's what I have to say.
	Number one, all I did was discuss putting on a curse.
	I did not put on a curse.
	Now, it could be I haven't, of course, asked, but it's possible that Evelyn went ahead Based on my question, and did that herself, I don't know.
	I would have to ask her.
	But I want to tell you that I did not request.
	I simply inquired about whether it would be possible to place Kurt on a professional football team.
	He lost six in a row.
	And I had a young lady today send me something pleading, saying, come on, they're already out of the playoffs.
	Lay off already.
	This is interesting.
	Here's a typical of what I get.
	Art, just wanted to say thank you for your awesome program.
	I work the graveyard shift at a jail in Nashville, Tennessee.
	A jail!
	And I listen to you every night.
	As a matter of fact, I've even got inmates listening to you.
	And we always have great conversations afterwards.
	Hell, they like your show better than cops!
	You know, somehow I would have thought That's from Jim, a correctional officer.
	I would have thought cops would have been inmates' favorite show, but I guess it is.
	So I take precedence even over cops.
	Cool.
	Listen, I'm going to be here live throughout the Thanksgiving holiday.
	Tonight, tomorrow, whatever the holiday is.
	Next week I will take a day or two off and I'm going to make a very quick trip up to Vancouver.
	Where I'm going to do an episode of Millennium.
	Really looking forward to that.
	In this episode of Millennium, I'm not going to say any more about it, I get to play myself.
	Which one would think would be easy, right?
	Getting to play yourself.
	Art Bell, the talk show host.
	I don't know when it's going to air, and I don't have the answer to any of those questions, but I know it's going to tape next week.
	So I will be doing that.
	We'll be right back.
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	You'll find it on Coast to Coast AM.
	Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
	Do you believe it's there?
	Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
	But it isn't.
	We don't have The government anymore.
	What we have is a loose coalition of bureaucracies.
	But we have no representation in that government.
	So when I look at the Constitution, I see it as a really inspired and eternal document that has been sidestepped in almost every legal way possible.
	So the process itself has been intentionally manipulated to facilitate a certain style of government.
	And it's taken a while to set up.
	But I think it's set up now and it's working just the way they like it.
	We need a systemic change in order to let the Republic be representative of the people again.
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	It's way out there.
	These groups of extraterrestrials that are unfriendly, many of which are hiding down there in the bottom of the ocean, why don't they want us to know about this?
	We've lost people in wars with UFOs.
	You know, we spend a lot of time honoring our heroes, and we have heroes that we don't know about.
	It's disturbing to that extent because we have a debt to people who have defended us, and we'll never know who they are.
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	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from November 25th, 1998.
	Now, this last Sunday on Dreamland, I interviewed the producer of the movie Somewhere in Time.
	Remember that?
	Christopher Reeves, Jane Seymour, my God, what a movie.
	It's my favorite movie.
	See this today.
	Dear Art, have you ever noticed that the movie Somewhere in Time does not contain the usual disclaimer at the end of the picture?
	Oh, you know, the essence of the disclaimer that this movie is not based on real persons or events or any seeming relationship to real Persons living or dead is coincidental.
	You've seen that, right?
	Oh, yes, I have.
	The movie credits bear no such disclaimer at all.
	Have you ever researched to see if there was any basis of this movie perhaps being a true story?
	Notice this.
	The movie is based on a book by Richard Matheson called Bid Time Return.
	That's true.
	The first name of the author of this book Who also, coincidentally, is the one who wrote the screenplay, is the same as the main character in the movie.
	In other words, Richard.
	Coincidence?
	Well, in this movie, the old professor who wrote the book about his experience with time travel is G. Finney.
	Initial G, last name Finney, who, in the movie, wrote a book called Travels in Time.
	Now, there is a real author named Jack Finney, who wrote the book Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which later also became a movie.
	Jack Finney also wrote the book called Time and Again, a very similar name, the author to the movie character, G. Finney.
	Now, to make things even more interesting, the book by Jack Finney, Time and Again, Is a novel, remember that Father Malachi Martin wrote a novel, Wynn's Web House, that depicts a true story in the form of a novel so the author will not anger the powers that be.
	Author pretends the subject matter is fiction.
	He probably will live a bit longer if you get my drift.
	Storyline, perhaps a true story disguised as a novel in time and again.
	It's about a man who is part of a secret government experiment to tell Einstein's theory of time, and is sent back to the 1800s.
	Ends up meeting and falling in love with a woman.
	He travels in time by willing himself to a different time period, just like the movie.
	That is nothing short of remarkable.
	That's James.
	I won't give your last name, James.
	James who put that together.
	And, um, I must tell you, uh, that absolutely grabbed my imagination, James, and I have long considered that Somewhere in Time did, in fact, depict more than was apparent in what was thought to be a simple story told for the silver screen.
	So... Could it be?
	You bet it could be!
	And now I'm really thinking about it.
	Somewhere in time, based perhaps on a true story.
	I've got the case laid out right here.
	Thank you, James.
	I'm Art Bell.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	This is Premier Networks.
	That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
	This is a video of a man in a wheelchair, and a woman in a wheelchair.
	When I was caught at the red mazoon in the blue veil of the night
	The shadows fell, the dreams appeared beneath the lantern light
	We've been running all the night, since that time of day Now we're turning back again, as we breathe again
	And who would go down to the shady grove, and run in the shadow of day?
	The tide is rising on the children of In the springtime of the year
	The sun is rising to fill the world And where must we their place?
	There's all the voices that can be heard Long past their landing
	He's a-crossing over the night My eyes at morning noon are told in disarray
	Oh yeah, and I have left my destiny in quite a single way The mystery folks on the shelf and the floor Is all that we
	see in his hands Walu, I will be seeing you once more
	Walu, promise you'll love me forevermore Walu, couldn't escape if I wanted to
	Walu, knowing I'll say you can be me Walu, finally say you have won
	I tried to hold you back but you were stronger You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from November 25th, 1998.
	I thought James made a particularly compelling case for Somewhere in Time perhaps being more than just a movie.
	And I would urge any of you, as I have over the years, and it's been years now, you get a chance, go to your video store, if you have one, And ask them for a movie called Somewhere in Time.
	You'll never be sorry.
	It is a remarkable, wonderful love story.
	It's not what I would traditionally call a chick's flick, because I don't gravitate toward those at all.
	It's for everybody.
	Everybody.
	And then again, it has to do with time travel, and in a way that I suspect actually May be possible.
	Alright, we'll be right back with Open Lines.
	it's going to be an interesting night tonight you're listening to art bell somewhere in time
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 25th, 1998.
	♪♪♪ Okay, here we go.
	On screen, talk radio, expect anything.
	Oh, don't forget, we're going to tell ghost stories all night, Friday night, Saturday morning.
	I promised you I would do that.
	I'm about a week late, but I'm doing it.
	Friday night, Saturday morning.
	A good night for it, incidentally.
	We will tell nothing but true ghost stories.
	If you have one, prepare it.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, this is Monty in Linwood.
	Hello, Monty.
	Hey, uh, a couple weeks ago, uh, you were asking if anybody's bought the new CC Radio?
	That's right.
	Has anybody called in?
	Uh, well, as a matter of fact, I've had a million faxes and emails, but it's problematic, you know, anybody managing to get in.
	Do you have one, Monty?
	Yep, I just received it yesterday.
	And, uh, okay, good.
	Um, well, Monty?
	Yeah, that's great.
	It is the single most powerful AM radio ever produced.
	I have never seen anything like it.
	Yeah, I am really surprised.
	I got the GE Super 3.
	Yeah, there you go.
	And the ATS-818.
	Yep.
	And there's no comparison.
	I know.
	I know.
	It tears them up.
	It flat tears them up.
	And that's the way we planned it.
	Yeah, and I even talked to Bob today about it.
	Oh, you did?
	Yeah, you know, I congratulated him on it.
	Well, he did a superb job on it.
	Well, you know, it seems like AM radio has been so long ignored now by radio manufacturers who turn out mediocre products.
	And, of course, you mentioned a couple of very good ones.
	Another one would be the Sony or the Grundig series.
	They're pretty good.
	And then there's a lot of mediocre stuff out there.
	And the only thing that was up in the really superb category was the GE, in my opinion.
	And this thing stomped it.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, I put two of them side-by-side.
	I was going through the dials, picking up, you know, the weak stations.
	And guess what?
	I don't have to guess.
	I have one, too, my friend.
	Yeah.
	All right, I appreciate the accurate comment and the praise.
	Yeah, I'm also using the Sonya phone right now.
	You see, folks?
	Do you hear that?
	This man is on a Sonyo phone right now, a spread spectrum digital phone.
	And did you hear me comment, gee, you're on a portable phone?
	No, because I didn't know.
	Because they're that good.
	Yeah, they're great.
	So I don't know what to say.
	I mean, what I tell about his products are the truth.
	You pay more, but on the other hand, you get a lot more.
	Yeah, and boy, I've been buying a lot from him lately.
	Well, there's good reason to do that.
	But anyway, have a nice Thanksgiving.
	You too, sir.
	Okay.
	Take care.
	No, there's good reason to do that.
	I mean, they are exactly what we say they are, these products.
	God, I hate those old portable phones.
	I really, I just, I hate them.
	Anyway, don't get me started on that.
	Well, wildcard line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Art Barkin, Wisconsin.
	How are you tonight?
	Um, quite well, uh, thank you.
	Listening to you on K-A-Y, and I'm calling in with just a quick update on a new Sea Crane Radio.
	You do?
	I am picking you up on no less than 11 channels.
	Ha ha ha.
	600, 700, 70 out of New York, 790, 890, 1100 and 1110.
	Wow.
	Beautiful.
	Wow.
	I know, it is an amazing radio here.
	A couple of days ago, I asked for some calls, and now I get them, uh, delayed.
	Yeah, I understand that, but anyhow, have a happy Thanksgiving.
	Thank you, and good morning.
	What's going on here?
	Two in a row.
	People are going to think it's a setup.
	It's not.
	This radio is an astounding radio.
	This new CC radio.
	It's, you know, it's taken everybody by storm.
	And well, it should.
	This radio, literally, you know, when you say it, here's radio stations that other radios don't even know are there.
	That's not brag.
	That's fact.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Extinguish your radio, please.
	It's off.
	Is it a fart bell?
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah.
	I've been listening for a while.
	I was just wondering if you had heard what PETA is doing.
	Who?
	The Group for Ethical Treatment of Animals.
	Oh, PETA.
	Yes.
	They're going around to movie theaters.
	Yes.
	Tomorrow, and giving people literature trying to get them to eat a tofu turkey instead of turkey.
	A tofu turkey?
	Yes.
	A tofu turkey?
	I lived in the Orient for ten years.
	Do you know how much tofu I ate?
	No.
	I ate about a thousand turkeys worth of tofu.
	There's no way in hell that I'd eat a tofu turkey.
	Now, I have sympathy with some of Peter's Um, thoughts about the treatment of animals.
	Oh, I definitely agree on that.
	But they can take their tofu turkeys and stuff them.
	Yeah, I just thought that was humorous.
	Yeah, unless you had to eat one.
	Yeah, normally I wouldn't even be able to call.
	I work third shift.
	But you're off now.
	Well, they had me work second shift today instead of third.
	Um, everything gets weird going, you know, everything sort of grounds on Wednesday.
	Head of Thanksgiving, everything kind of, about midday, begins to drag to a halt, you know?
	Business drags to a halt, everybody goes away, and everything sort of stops.
	But that's why I decided to work through the holiday.
	Yeah, I wanted to call when you had that guy from the Satanist on.
	Ah, yes.
	The Church of Satan, to be specific.
	He's saying that his group defines Satanism.
	I'm sorry, there were groups around long before Christianity that claimed the same things as Satanists.
	Well, that may be, but I mean, in modern days, certainly Anton LaVey and the Church of Satanism, if you can call it that, the mainstream Satanist group.
	Yeah, I haven't read the book.
	A friend of mine was telling me about it, but I just, some of his views I just felt were quite humorous.
	I'm a Christian myself, but... Well, that explains it.
	You know, I just... He was more, you know, he struck me as more of a humanist than a Satanist.
	I agree.
	He didn't really... He doesn't believe that there is such thing as the entity Satan any more than he believes there is an entity God.
	Yeah, that's why I didn't understand.
	I heard his reasoning no matter what he said they would still call him a Satanist, but Still, why use the label?
	Well, he does do, um, on the other hand, uh, thank you, the ritual, and I don't know if the photograph is still up on the website or not, but I'll tell you, he's one scary looking dude.
	Bald, shaved head, sitting there with a doll with pins stuck in it.
	Pretty scary stuff.
	But I think a little dramatic license, perhaps.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Oh, good morning, Art.
	Yes, good morning to you.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Thank you.
	Did I hear someone say the other day that Ramona's birthday was on the 24th?
	No.
	Is it?
	When's her birthday?
	I thought I heard somebody say happy birthday to Ramona the other day.
	Well, I think that it was belated.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought maybe we were twins.
	I wanted to ask you, the last time you had Steven Greer on, And there's another gentleman on with him, and they were talking about, well, for lack of a better word, a new, this new perpetual motion machine.
	Free energy, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I know Stephen Greer owes us an update.
	Well, they were supposed to, like, the next week, weren't they, make some kind of big announcement?
	Uh, yes, and I didn't hear it, but of course... I didn't either.
	I got rather occupied, so I will contact Stephen Greer, and we'll see if we can get a follow-up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Have a good night.
	First time caller line, you are on air.
	Good morning.
	Hello.
	Going once.
	Yeah, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	It's off.
	That's good.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Southern California.
	OK.
	And I need to tell you this.
	And I'm going to tell you now.
	I was recently down in Mexico City.
	Yes.
	And I was hanging out with friends.
	Some of his friends know some people in the media and they told him that there are some people coming from not our planet but another solar system coming here to take them somewhere I don't know.
	Everyone is telling their relatives goodbye.
	In Mexico now?
	Yeah.
	This is from, uh, since August I found out the information.
	So it's going to be a year from August.
	A year from August.
	Well, I, okay, I appreciate that.
	I hear all kinds of dates.
	The one circulating around the states now is that there is going to be a landing December 6th or 7th.
	Those are the dates I'm hearing.
	Some kind of landing.
	But we get a lot of dates.
	They come, they go.
	And still, the saucers don't land.
	Nevertheless, you've got to imagine, one of these days, they might.
	Very persistent rumor of the 6th or the 7th.
	Even Richard Hoagland has been mentioning it.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Art?
	Yes.
	Hey man, I haven't talked to you for years.
	Years?
	Yeah, well, not since O.J.
	Simpson was on trial.
	My gosh.
	This is Kevin in Houston.
	Yes, sir.
	Speaking of product endorsements, you were saying you were a little overweight?
	I am, yes, yes.
	Have you been taking your Kydo Slim product?
	No, I have not yet.
	No, I have not yet.
	What I have done is stopped eating as much.
	Well, that will help, I would imagine.
	Well, I was thinking about trying it myself, but I just wanted to see if you had any personal experience with it.
	a try.
	My understanding is it does work, but that is one I haven't tried yet.
	I always say, you know, people refer to spare tires.
	I always say I've just got more of a bit of a hubcap at this point.
	Oh, I see.
	I have a full spare tire, I think.
	At least I feel that way.
	I mean, I've never done it that bad, but I really need to do something about it one of these days, maybe.
	Well, gosh, this is the first time I've tried to call you, like I said, in a few years, and I just got right through, so I don't really have much else to say.
	Well, that's all right.
	I appreciate you saying that much.
	When I was a kid, I was skinny.
	Boy, was I skinny.
	I mean, I looked deathly skinny.
	I was always skinny.
	And then somehow, when I got older, that changed.
	I think that what happened is that, you know, I've got a very Sedentary job.
	I sit here and I talk.
	That's what I do.
	Or I sit and play on ham radio.
	Or I sit and work on electronics.
	Or I sit and read.
	But whatever I do has sit in front of it.
	And that's the main problem.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, good evening, Art.
	Yes, to you too, sir.
	This is Mike in Phoenix, listening to KRXS FM 97.3.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah, how are you doing?
	Doing.
	Okay.
	A couple of things I wanted to mention.
	First of all, USA Network News is on just every hour here between your program.
	And tonight, just as it came on, you remember Flip Wilson?
	Sure.
	Yeah, he just died from a bout of liver cancer.
	Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.
	Yeah, me too.
	Just thought I'd mention that.
	Michael J. Fox with Parkinson's at 37.
	That's hard to believe.
	That's almost an old age disease.
	My dad had it.
	Well, it's genetic.
	Yeah.
	They think.
	I guess most of these diseases, frankly, are genetic and eventually they'll get a handle.
	I hope so.
	I hope so.
	The other thing I wanted to mention was I missed your show on Monday night and usually give a news update.
	Did you take note of the cold snap in Europe?
	Oh yes.
	Well over 80 dead now in the coldest winter in Europe in years and years.
	Yeah, the weather, look, I think we're past a discussion about what's going on.
	The weather is changing.
	Absolutely is changing.
	Profoundly changing from the norms.
	Now, whether it is some sort of cycle or not, I don't know if we're going to be alive long enough to know.
	But I think for the rest of our lives, expect change from what we have known.
	I grew up in Minnesota where we get the Arctic winds coming down, but now I've spent the past 25 years and the other half of my life living in the Sonoran Desert, so I've seen some extremes.
	I was just thinking about 60, 70 mile an hour winds for nearly two days.
	That's hard to believe.
	I know.
	It's hard to imagine.
	I know, but it's true.
	It's hard to imagine having to live through that.
	Well, we get them from time to time here in the desert, and it's okay if you're prepared.
	And when you live in the desert, you know every now and then you get very high winds, and so everything is made and constructed to withstand that kind of wind.
	In the Northwest, it's not quite the same.
	They've got a lot of trees, they've got a lot of buildings and signs that are not used to that kind of wind.
	Exactly.
	So, yeah.
	Well, hey, great shows.
	Glad I had a chance to talk to you, and you have a great Thanksgiving.
	You do.
	Take care.
	Everybody out there, have a good Thanksgiving, and don't overdo it.
	Lest you, too, begin to grow a spare tire.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	How are you doing, Art?
	I'm fine.
	Hi, I'm Matt.
	I'm out in Massachusetts.
	Okay.
	I was listening to your show the other evening with the Reverend Andre Sussinger, the Church of Satan.
	I had some beef with his argument.
	I differ with your opinion on him being a humanist.
	Really?
	My argument was that he was kind of elusive when people were asking questions about his rituals.
	And they really didn't get into that very much, saying that it was pretty much a lot of symbolisms involved there.
	I, too, agree with you that he was holding back.
	Yeah, that I had a problem with.
	He definitely stated that he didn't believe in the entity of Satan so much as that.
	But then when he was asked what they believed and what they practiced, he said that they followed in the shadow of Satan.
	And he also, at the end of the program, you probably didn't hear it, but he did the old traditional hail Satan thing.
	Yeah, so there's... So who's he hailing?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, my belief or my argument is that, you know, one of your callers called in and said basically that the whole purpose, if someone were to believe that Satan did exist, that they would, one of the main goals would be if they could pretend or Make people believe that there was no Satan, i.e.
	that there would be no God, so therefore that Satan would have won that battle there.
	Now, it is interesting.
	I had Haraldon, who was a real fire-breathing Satanist, and she didn't bother people nearly so much as did the Church of Satan fellow, and it's because he was saying, there is no God, there is no Satan, and yet everybody sort of believed that he was kind of lying a little bit about For some reason, the Reverend Andre Schlesinger bothered people more than Harlot, and I'm still working on why.
	Well, I think it's because he tried to portray it as more of an intellectual movement.
	Maybe that's it.
	And more of a subterfuge.
	They're about a philosophy that has nothing to do with darkness.
	And, uh, you know, what people immediately conjure up with the term Satanism.
	I understand.
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	Dr. Alan Vaughn.
	Actually, the only living person profiled in the new book, Visions of Nostradamus and Other Prophets.
	The only living person profiled in there.
	Everybody else has already passed on.
	The chapter devoted to Dr. Vaughn, entitled, The Most Successful Predictor, chronicles Vaughn's 20 years of work with the Central Premonitions Registry.
	I'm familiar with that.
	that fact an organization run by uh... in new york times staffer from nineteen
	sixty eight through eighty eight out of thirty five hundred people from twenty eight countries
	registered predictions was judged as having the greatest number of detailed
	predictions come true True.
	Vaughn's accuracy has been proven time and time again.
	A skeptical newsman, Henry Chase, analyzed all psychic predictions from many psychics, published in the National Enquirer in 1969, found that Vaughn was 54% accurate, compared to the runner-up, who managed only 10% accuracy.
	Vaughn's predictions include, well, so many things.
	The Watergate scandal.
	The record-breaking deadly floods brought by Hurricane Agnes in 1972.
	The most accurate psychic first came to prominence in 1968 while doing a research project in prophetic dreaming at a German parapsychology institute.
	Vaughn saw in a dream that Robert Kennedy would be assassinated.
	On May 25th, in fact, that's May 25th, He wrote a dream researcher, Dr. Stanley Kipner, to pass on a warning to Kennedy.
	Unfortunately, the letter was received June 5th, the day before the assassination.
	Still.
	Too late, I guess.
	Another detailed prediction, published in Fate magazine in 1993, recently was fulfilled in Russia.
	When Mr. Primakov became Premier, taking over the task of managing the Russian economy.
	That's quite a task.
	Perhaps impossible.
	Vaughn's prediction, a man named Eugeny, Eugeny Primakov, will take over managing the Russian economy.
	Now, Dr. Vaughn is sharing his secrets in his own brand new book, Doorways to Higher Consciousness.
	And this book teaches people how to contact higher spiritual guidance and gain the gifts of spirit, such as Prophecy and Healing.
	The book is based on Vaughan's 30 years of experience of teaching over 10,000 people how to develop their spiritual and psychic abilities.
	So, in a moment, we're going to be speaking with Dr. Vaughan.
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	We've lost people in wars with UFOs.
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	It's disturbing to that extent because we have a debt to people who have defended us, and we'll never know who they are.
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	Alright, now comes Dr. Alan Vaughn.
	Dr. Vaughn, how does it feel to be the only living person profiled in a book about Nostradamus?
	Well, I hope I don't own the others too soon.
	Welcome to the program.
	Thank you very much.
	Good to be here.
	How does one... Well, I guess let's begin here.
	Your doctorate is in what?
	In therapeutic counseling.
	Which is really parapsychology.
	I studied at an institute in Montreal and I got my degree through the Open International University in Sri Lanka.
	Sri Lanka?
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	How does one even begin in this field?
	Well, I began as a skeptic.
	I was a textbook editor.
	You know, editing books on science, chemistry and physics, that sort of thing, back in the mid-60s, and I began to have psychic experiences.
	As a skeptic?
	Yeah, I was really puzzled by it.
	I thought it was impossible, because skeptics have written all these books saying it was impossible.
	Oh, I know.
	So I began to investigate, you know, if this is really true, especially precognition of seeing into the future.
	One of the first things that happened, well a fellow editor enticed me into getting a Ouija board and we were sneakily playing it in the office.
	Really?
	And we just had a subway strike there in New York and she asked me, well what's the next thing that's going to hit New York?
	And the message that came on the board was a blizzard.
	And then it gave the exact dates for the beginning and end of the blizzard, which came a few months later.
	At this point, you are not recording your predictions?
	No, no, I was just astonished.
	I thought, how on earth is that possible?
	And then I began to research the topic and was introduced to Eileen Garrett, who is the medium and the founder of the Parapsychology Foundation in New York.
	And she invited me to use her library, and I did.
	And then one day she invited me to lunch and said, well, how are you doing?
	Well, I've run out of books.
	I've got to find people now who can do this.
	And so she gave me a grant to go to Europe to consult with mediums, particularly to see if they could predict the future.
	And also I studied in Germany about prophetic dreams.
	Now, you're documented at 54% accuracy, and a lot of people might sit out there and say, huh, 54%, just over half a big deal.
	But what they're not thinking about is, this is not like saying, will it be black or will it be white.
	That's your choice.
	This is a detailed prediction of a future event, and that's very, very different.
	Actually, the average, I think, is going up a bit, because one of the predictions I made back in 1969, during the Cold War, was that the United States and Russia would join together their space programs.
	And that just happened.
	That was in 1954?
	No, 1969.
	I made the prediction that Russia and the U.S.
	would join together in a collaborative space exploration.
	Just yesterday or so, the Russians blasted off a rocket with the first piece of the space station.
	I know.
	And that the United States is paying for all this.
	How old are you, Doctor?
	Uh, I'll be 62 next month.
	62, so you've been doing this for a while.
	Yes, I've been.
	When did all this begin for you?
	Uh, I was about age 30.
	About 30.
	Um, as a skeptic, are you familiar with the, or you must be, the Psycop people?
	Oh yes, yes.
	You are?
	They gave me an award, the Council for Media Integrity.
	I'm reading it here, it's on my wall.
	Awarded me the Snuffed Candle Award.
	It says, for encouraging credulity, presenting pseudosciences genuine and contributing to the public's lack of understanding of the methods of scientific inquiry.
	Signed by Steve Allen.
	You know, the TV... Oh, I see, that great and notable scientist.
	Well... I think he's funnier than he realizes.
	I think you're absolutely correct.
	Anyway, as a skeptic, It must have been really, really hard to begin to have things happening to you.
	Well, it was very painful.
	It was the most painful thing I've ever gone through, because I had to change my belief system.
	Precisely.
	And it was just agonizing, because I had been brought up, you know, not to believe in these sort of things.
	And college certainly reinforces that, you know.
	And it's still true today, you know, 30 years later.
	Uh, colleges always have these skeptical viewpoints.
	They never actually look at the phenomena.
	They just, you know, follow the dogma from their professors.
	And so that's why the academic and scientific communities often don't know a damn thing about parapsychology.
	In fact, stay a hundred million miles away from it for fear of ridicule.
	Yeah, well, there's the real danger of their losing their job.
	Yes, there is.
	It's something that's so important to us.
	You are familiar, of course, with what occurred to John Mack, professor at Harvard.
	Oh, yes.
	And they virtually keeled him, and he, by the skin of his teeth, held on to his job.
	I think the president of Harvard, as I recall, said, well, this is really an issue of academic freedom.
	And so that saved the day.
	If that Lynch Committee had had their way, it would have been the beginning of the Black Ages.
	The Dark Ages, again.
	Well, I have interviewed many prophets.
	I have interviewed Gordon Michael Scallion.
	Do you know of Gordon?
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, okay.
	And many, many others.
	And some of them have had amazing records of accuracy.
	Others, somewhat less amazing.
	Some seem to have a sort of a string of I won't say lucky, but accurate predictions, and then suddenly they begin to go sour.
	You seem to have held up over many, many, many years.
	Well, I published a series of predictions in 1993 in Fate magazine, and over 70% of those have come true.
	My word.
	So the first question is, how Do these things come to you?
	I interviewed Edgar Cayce's son, and so I know quite a bit about that.
	Well, for me, in the beginning, things came spontaneously.
	How, though?
	Oh, feelings, impressions.
	Often somebody would say something, or I'd read something in the newspaper, and it would trigger a feeling of something's going to happen.
	And also with dreams.
	For 30 years I've studied dreams to see what prophetic elements they might contain.
	Especially about my own life.
	I've gotten really used to doing that.
	But now I find that it's just a matter of focus.
	I tune into a person's energy and I can sense things in their future.
	But I have to say, possible futures.
	There's no such thing as perfect prediction.
	Ah.
	Because people have free will and they're forever changing things.
	Well, Gordon Michael, one of the more interesting people that I've interviewed on this subject, would describe his predictive ability this way.
	He would say, I could see three, if you think of it this way, three TV screens.
	And of those three, one would be perhaps brighter, Sharper, more contrast, even in color, compared to the other two, which were there, much less likely to occur, and he would look at the brightest one and say, that's what I think is going to happen, but it's not set in stone, and human will could change it.
	Yeah, well, I think he's correct in that.
	Of course, people perceive these images somewhat differently.
	I sometimes will see pictures in my mind, sometimes I'll hear things.
	Five years ago, somebody asked me about Russia, and what's going to happen to the leader of Russia, and I saw a picture of a riot, but I heard, oh, it's going to be in October, there's going to be riots.
	And that's in fact what happened.
	And then the name Evgeny came to me.
	And I had studied Russian years ago.
	It's such an uncommon name I knew.
	That's got to be right.
	And he's going to be taking over for Yeltsin.
	And now this has happened.
	It doesn't seem like Yeltsin has very long to go.
	No, Yeltsin's in the hospital.
	He hasn't got much longer to go.
	So it's a combination of things, but I often... Do you see them, or would you just say that it's sort of a subtle mental image or sense that you get, or do you see clear pictures of the future?
	I don't see pictures as clearly as some people do.
	I'm more oriented toward words, I often hear.
	words that will describe the future event.
	I can feel it on the faster vibration.
	It feels different from like ordinary thoughts in your head.
	And it's a matter of practice.
	And I've been at this for a long time now.
	So I've learned how to discriminate.
	Would you say it is more than disciplined intuition?
	Well intuition is a word that I use a lot but it includes just about everything.
	Discipline and intuition is a good term, but intuition itself I feel works through energy, that our energy penetrates into the future and shows possibilities.
	Well, that, of course, brings up the question about the nature of time itself.
	Well, it certainly does.
	I've worked out a new theory.
	I've just published it, or just a brief description of it, in the MUFON UFO Journal.
	Really?
	This month.
	With regard to time?
	Well, with regard to ESP, including precognition, UFOs, aliens, Bigfoot, a testable theory that We are extending into other dimensions where there is no time.
	There are over 20 research studies that show that during low geomagnetic activity that spontaneous ESP tends to happen more often.
	And I've discovered, and I thought, well this is because maybe we're penetrating into another dimension.
	We're pushing through.
	Somehow a barrier to another dimension.
	A barrier of geomagnetism.
	Is it happening documentably more frequently?
	Yes, it is.
	It's been increasing.
	I investigated those sightings.
	The times when people see UFOs, they see aliens, Bigfoot.
	Now this is in collaboration with a researcher in the paranormal, especially a Bigfoot named Peter Cotilla.
	So he was able to find all this data and send it over to me and I looked at the tables of geomagnetic activity.
	A physicist friend wrote computer software to analyze all this.
	And so we got a very significant effect that links ESP, precognition, UFOs, all these with other dimensions.
	And that's why time is, shall we say, subjective.
	It doesn't stay put.
	Well, for us, in this dimension, time is precisely linear.
	In other words, I can sit here and watch the clock ticking my life away.
	But I'm very much open to the possibility that there are other dimensions.
	Theoretical physicists in this country now, some of the best minds, are beginning to suggest there are dimensions, perhaps as many as ten or twelve or more.
	Oh yeah, there was a recent article in Scientific American about that.
	Well, also that even that there is another universe, a ten-dimensional universe that's out there.
	That's it!
	As well as our own ten-dimensional universe.
	That's it!
	So, our understanding of time, one has to open one's mind to begin to grapple with this, but it may be that in another universe there simply is not linear time as we understand it, period.
	Yeah, well, many people have suggested, many scientists have suggested that our consciousness, as it were, creates time.
	All right.
	It can vary, though.
	I certainly have noticed interviewing people who have had very dramatic psychic experiences, or even just emotional experiences.
	You know, their watches will stop.
	If you talk to somebody who's been in a car accident, they always say the same thing, times slow down.
	Absolutely.
	Doctor, hold on.
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	Do you believe it's there?
	Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
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	Alright, back now to Dr. Alan Vaughn.
	And Dr. Vaughn, I, at the risk of boring my audience who have already heard this, I'm going to tell you a story.
	And you can tell me what happened.
	Okay.
	I've been in radio all my adult life, and even prior to being an adult I was in radio.
	I've always been in radio.
	And this was when I was in Santa Barbara.
	I lived once in Santa Barbara.
	I worked for KDB at that time, a radio station in Santa Barbara.
	And I lived in a garden-type apartment.
	And I would come home pretty much banker's hours in the evening and watch the news.
	Anybody in my business has got to watch the news.
	So I'd watch the evening news religiously.
	Now, my apartment had a sliding glass door that looked out on the street.
	And for safety's sake, I would park my car on the street Uh, directly in front of my sliding glass door.
	And the curtain was drawn, and I had come home one night, sitting there watching the news, and all of a sudden, the only way I can describe this is, it came at me in strong waves, kind of like ocean waves, you know, cresting and breaking over your head.
	It was so strong.
	The feeling was, somebody's about to hit your car.
	And here I am in the middle of the news, and I said something I can't... I said, oh, shoot.
	Actually, I said something else, but... It was so strong and compelling that I got up and I went over and I opened the curtain, I looked out.
	There's my car and everything's cool.
	And I say, boy, that was dumb.
	And I go back to the news.
	And I sit down.
	And as soon as I sit down, here it comes again.
	Just wave after wave after wave, so strong, This time I said something even stronger, which I won't even... I won't go there.
	And I got back up, and I went over to the, uh, pulled the curtain aside, opened the sliding door, and I looked at my car.
	It was okay.
	And as I was standing there looking at my car, trying to be sure it was all in one piece, feeling stupid, here comes this guy down the sidewalk, walks down the sidewalk, gets into the car in front of mine, Put it in reverse and slams into my car while I'm watching.
	Now, it freaked me out so badly that I fell to my knees.
	I literally fell to my knees in some kind of shock, but I collected myself enough to get up and yell out, I saw that!
	He said, I'm stopping, I'm stopping.
	That, I mean, there was no question about that.
	That was a case of precognition.
	I have never had it previously.
	I've never had it since.
	I don't know what brought it on.
	I wouldn't know how to repeat it.
	But there you are.
	Well, that's certainly an excellent example of spontaneous premonition.
	But you sense that coming as energy waves, right?
	Oh, it was irresistible.
	Yeah, I think that's a clue, though.
	It's like getting information from the future, but it comes in ways to this other dimension.
	I've certainly talked with a huge number of people who have had premonitions like this.
	Sometimes they can save lives.
	People act on them.
	If it were me, after all these years of experience, I think I would have run out and moved my
	car after that.
	Well, if it were to happen again, I might.
	I just bought a new car too.
	God, that'd make me sick.
	I've got this new Firebird Trans Am.
	I love it.
	Well, but it shows that you've got this capability.
	But it's never happened before?
	It's never happened?
	Well, you haven't opened yourself to it.
	That kind of forced itself on you.
	Oh, it did?
	And that can be an awful thing.
	It often happens with people in dreams.
	But in research, there should be some research going on about how this happens.
	What occurs in our brains to bring this on some way to, or maybe it's not a physical thing, but it's a mental training?
	I don't know.
	In other words, how could I get control of that?
	How could I make that happen again?
	Well, I've been teaching people how to bring these things under control for some time.
	One basic method is learning how to still your mind, how to quiet your mind through meditation and project your mind out of your body.
	In other words, to get in contact with your higher self or the part of you that exists in another dimension.
	From that perspective, it's much easier to see the possible futures, especially anything emotional.
	Another way is with software.
	I call it the Psychic Reward Intuition Training Software.
	It's cheap.
	It's only $33, but a number of people have been able to improve their ability to see into the future.
	Essentially, you're shown a wheel on a computer screen and letters of the alphabet segments, and you try to predict where the random computer chip will which letter it will select and the
	closer you get to the target the higher you score in points and
	This kind of weighted feedback. I call it Enables the majority of people to
	Discipline and train their ability that in other words they learn to recognize that kind of gut feeling
	That comes when they're right Here we enter a rather interesting area there's work going
	on at Princeton and an offshoot of work at Princeton And I've got a piece of software here
	As a matter of fact, it's called ShapeTech.
	Are you familiar with that at all?
	I've heard of it.
	I haven't seen it.
	I have that software on the computer right in front of me.
	Well, the stuff that they're using there, of course, is exquisitely done as far as having random processes, but nobody gets better at it.
	Well, here's... And this has been true, you know, for the last...
	50 years of parapsychology, they use targets.
	You're either right or you're wrong.
	Yes, but here's the $64 million question.
	Are we predicting, in fact, what the computer will select, or are we affecting what the computer will select?
	I think we do both.
	In fact, I think by the very fact of predicting In a sense you can say that of direct observation with your
	consciousness, you change it.
	And so when we predict things in our lives, for instance, we tend to make it happen.
	We fulfill our own prophecies.
	And it goes beyond just our own life.
	But you know that very question has intrigued me for many years.
	And I believe it's a unitary process.
	And there are a number of other parapsychologists who do as well.
	But if I think back on my experience in Santa Barbara, I don't think I caused that man to
	hit my car.
	I knew it was going to happen.
	It's a spectrum of experience.
	It goes from one side to perceiving things completely outside of you.
	The actions of someone that has nothing to do with you.
	Oh, like my dream of Robert Kennedy being assassinated.
	Yes.
	I had nothing to do with it.
	I felt guilty afterwards.
	But then going over to the To the right side of the spectrum, where you are praying for something to happen, you are exerting tremendous energy.
	And you do make it happen.
	And you're predicting it.
	Everybody knows about this, sort of.
	Are you a listener to my program?
	I'm sorry?
	Have you listened to this program before?
	Yes, I have.
	Not too often.
	Five, maybe six experiments, mass experiments.
	Have you heard about them?
	No.
	All right.
	You remember the case of the Phoenix Lights?
	Oh, yeah.
	Are they called the Phoenix Lights?
	About two weeks prior to the Phoenix Lights, I had my entire audience stop and concentrate on something large and alien showing itself over a major American city.
	Two weeks later, Phoenix Lights.
	Voila.
	Interesting coincidence.
	Interesting synchronicity.
	Then I followed up by trying it again two days after the experiment.
	There were UFOs in moss seen over Las Vegas, close to me.
	Then, I thought, I had a fellow on named Neil Slade.
	He said, why don't you try a little weather modification?
	In Florida, they were having terrible fires and drought.
	So, we tried it.
	Millions of people concentrating on moisture beginning to build, clouds forming, rain coming and falling.
	Within hours, Doctor, with no prediction of rain in the forecast, it rained in Florida.
	Then we tried it in Texas.
	Again, it worked within hours.
	No prediction of rain to be seen and then finally in British Columbia where fires were raging we tried it again and it worked and you know what at that point it began to scare me and I said you know I'm not so sure we're doing the right thing here and that may be validated they had floods in Texas they went from drought to
	Floods with tremendous damage.
	People said, look at this hurricane coming, Art.
	Do something about it.
	And I thought, well, if I do, I'm liable to hold that sucker out at sea, if we have any effect at all.
	It'll build to a Category 5, and I will do more damage.
	In other words, I don't know what I'm tampering and playing with.
	I just know that it works.
	And I'm stopped.
	I'm stuck.
	I don't know whether to proceed and try other experiments.
	I'm so tempted.
	Well, you know, it's a little frightening to be in an experimental situation with the weather, which affects, you know, the whole world.
	Yes, sir.
	But you might consider, you know, trying to focus, make the smaller effects in laboratory or under conditions that you can rule out chance.
	There's a very interesting literature about people affecting the weather.
	I recall one report of a young parapsychologist who was visiting Tibet and was reading one afternoon and they were preparing for some ceremony and so the monk just went out and they started doing their chanting and so on and the rain stopped in a circle in that town square everywhere else it was still raining
	and they did their ceremony for a couple of hours and they walked away and the
	rain started falling again. Now that is just not believable by most of the western scientists today
	but the you know Tibetan Buddhists are used to using this psychic abilities and
	they don't panic.
	They're very disciplined about it.
	Well, again, Neil Slade came on.
	It all began with this cloud-busting thing.
	I'm sure you've heard of that.
	Yeah.
	You go out and you concentrate on one cloud, and you try, literally, with your mind, to punch a hole in it.
	And I had a million emails and faxes of people who tried it and said, oh my God, it worked.
	I was able to sit there and concentrate and virtually pick out a cloud and punch a hole in it.
	That is what I guess... I've heard that story so many times myself.
	I think there must be something to it.
	Well, that was my feeling too, but so then would you say that thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of minds concentrating on an event like a weather change Would it be more effective than one person trying to punch a little hole in a cloud?
	I think it's possible.
	Again, the literature, of course, is anecdotal, but say in Africa, where belief in magic is pretty prevalent, they often do this sort of thing, the rain dances.
	That's what it's for, the American Indians.
	Of course, they're not millions of people.
	But this whole idea, I know a young scientist who's trying to organize people around the world.
	He's got a theoretical basis for how this works, to focus on achieving peace and creating, in other words, the kind of world society that we really need, that we can put out the energy to do it.
	We get our minds harmoniously vibrating together.
	On the other hand, I've seen experiments.
	in which a hall of people are trying to make a red light come on and a green light stay off
	and nothing much happens. It's like they're, you know, they're not used to this, they're not
	disciplined, but groups who've been working together for a time, that's a different matter.
	They've learned how to harmonize their consciousness and so they can accomplish
	extraordinary things. Do you think that there is any danger in this sort of experimentation?
	Well, I think it depends on what you're trying to do.
	I think that the fear that you have is kind of a fear of responsibility.
	Well, what about modifications?
	Yeah, but with a group of people, there's no one person who takes responsibility.
	I'll have to say that I cannot think of experimental situations in the laboratory, experiments in the laboratory that have We've done much in this area.
	There's the tradition in spiritualism.
	I write about it in my book, Doorways to Higher Consciousness, where a group of people who sit regularly over years are able to build up the energy so that entities can materialize from another dimension.
	Everybody can see them.
	People on a bus ask him, would you please materialize some entity?
	Nothing is going to happen.
	And so it seems like it takes a lot of mental discipline to do this.
	and the process of learning that mentalism or that discipline
	one also learns how to harmonize with the universe
	alright doctor on the other hand you know you you don't see a group of people trying to win the lottery
	by getting together and
	that's all think win win win But I don't hear anything about it in the newspapers.
	Well, on the other hand, it may well be that some of the winners of the lottery did it exactly that way and aren't talking.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, I think there's a big problem there because there's so many people fighting each other on that.
	That's true.
	You know, everybody who bought a lottery ticket suddenly decided, We'll just sit down, and we're all going to concentrate on Art Bell winning.
	Then you might have a really good chance, because other people aren't going to do that.
	There's a thought, actually.
	Well, of course, you can hypnotize them.
	It's a thought.
	It's really a thought.
	All right, Doctor, hold on just one moment, and we're going to take a break here at the top of the hour, and we'll be right back.
	Soon we'll get to the phones, but the doctor has a prediction.
	Coming for California that you're going to need to hear about.
	In fact, we're going to pick his brain about predictions.
	We will be right back.
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	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 25th, 1998.
	Dr. Alan Vaughn, the only living person profiled in the new book, Visions of Nostradamus and Other Prophets.
	Now, Dr. Vaughn is a documented to be the most successful predictor In the world, alive today.
	And this is all documented by the Central Premonitions Registry, an organization run by a New York Times staffer, 1968 through 1988, and again, out of 3,500 people from 28 countries who registered predictions.
	He was judged as having the greatest number of detailed predictions come true.
	In fact, 54%, the next closest out of all those, Only 10% accuracy.
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	Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
	Do you believe it's there?
	Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
	But it isn't.
	We don't have the government anymore.
	What we have is a loose coalition of bureaucracies.
	But we have no representation in that government.
	So when I look at the Constitution, I see it as a really inspired and eternal document that has been sidestepped in almost every legal way possible.
	So the process itself has been intentionally manipulated to facilitate a certain style of government.
	And it's taken a while to set up.
	But I think it's set up now, and it's working just the way they like it.
	We need a systemic change.
	In order to let the Republic be representative of the people again.
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	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from November 25th, 1998.
	Once again, here is Dr. Alan Vaughn.
	and once again here is dr alan bond doctor bond would it be
	or would do you object to the title of profit No, I don't.
	I started out as a researcher and learned how to be psychic, as it were.
	I play both sides of the street.
	The term prophet often has to do with religious prophecy.
	It's true, and in fact, the Christians, of course, and I'm sure you've heard this a million times and once, is that why any prophet who is short of 100% accuracy is a false prophet.
	You've heard that, right?
	Oh, yeah, that's because they don't know anything about theology.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah, because those Old Testament prophecies were written after the fact to make the prophet look good, so it wasn't the prophet's fault.
	They just didn't write about the ones that didn't come true.
	That was part of their church doctrine.
	Theologians know this.
	All right.
	Obviously, you know I'm going to ask about prophecies that you have already made that have not yet come true, that lie yet ahead of us.
	Well, there's one that we can test real soon.
	Okay, okay.
	I made this on January the 26th of this year on the Intuition Network chat group.
	You interviewed Jeffrey Mishlove recently.
	That's right.
	You know, Jeffrey's group.
	And it happened when the news media started talking about Ken Starr's investigation of Clinton and said that Clinton will be impeached.
	Yes.
	And the next day a friend asked me about this, and I got this tremendous feeling in my solar plexus, and I said, no, he's not going to be impeached, he's not going to resign, and furthermore, Ken Starr is going to be compared with Joseph McCarthy, and a witch hunt that backfires.
	That's exactly what's been happening.
	And, you know, recently the Los Angeles Times did a story called Sexual McCarthyism.
	Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard Law Scholar, wrote a book just out called Sexual McCarthyism about Ken Starr and Clinton.
	Well, you sure hit that one on the nose.
	I had another problem on the program who said that, who obviously misses one, said that I think a President Clinton would be like a man falling off a cliff, hitting each outcropping as he fell.
	That doesn't seem to be the way it's turning out at all.
	No, it's interesting.
	Ken Starr was interviewed tonight.
	By Diane Sawyer.
	He looked a little uncomfortable when she was asking some of those questions like, can I interview you about your sex life?
	I didn't see that.
	Must have been priceless.
	A wonderful expression.
	At any rate, this is coming to a head very soon in Congress.
	The experts are now saying, well, Gee, the Republicans haven't got the votes to push an impeachment through, so maybe they'll settle something else.
	At any rate, the people who were screaming in the media in January that obviously Clinton was going to be impeached or resigned aren't so sure of that anymore.
	Last election did that.
	Last election was a real shocker.
	You know, I said my one comment on the election was, on this last election, I said, Monica Lewinsky won the election.
	She got more money out of it than anybody did.
	Probably.
	The wages of sin, aren't they wonderful?
	So, you have that one on the record and that one... Yeah, now there's one published in my book, Doorways to Higher Consciousness.
	This came out this year.
	You know, the chapter on prophecy.
	It first began in 1986 when I had a client here in Los Angeles who asked me, when will there be a really big earthquake?
	The big one?
	Yeah, that would really hurt my business or something.
	I looked at a mental chart of the years ahead and 1999 had showed this big peak.
	Really?
	Well, recently I felt that it would be centered maybe a hundred or so miles east of Los Angeles But so strong that it would actually cause more damage here than the Northridge quake did a few years ago.
	Do you actually predict magnitudes?
	Well, I did in one case.
	I predicted a moderate quake that would occur in the month of June, and this was like six months in advance.
	This is to a reporter doing a story on me, and the newspaper did a headline.
	front page story on it and they called it a moderate earthquake but it was centered
	exactly where I said it would be.
	I mean nobody was injured but it was, you know the correspondence of those details I
	thought fulfilled the prediction pretty well.
	But this is the first time I've ever predicted a major earthquake that would kill people
	and damage buildings and leave things a mess.
	And this one you predict to be about 100 miles from...
	I don't feel there's a need to panic about it.
	It's not Andreas' fault.
	Oh, that is a big one, all right.
	Yeah, so, I mean, I don't feel there's a need to panic about it, but...
	Now, as to the exact date, I'm not sure.
	I felt initially it would be, like, in the early part of the year.
	Coincidentally, I'm going to be going on this inter-voyage, this Caribbean cruise,
	from February 28th through March the 3rd.
	So you're getting out of Dodge?
	Well, I mean, this is arranged by the inter-voyage people.
	It might be happening then, though a friend who talks with my spirit guide, Lee Sung, Talk to one of his advisors who said, oh no, it's going to happen in December.
	December 19th or something.
	So we'll see.
	I'm actually going to wait until December next month and then take another look at this whole thing to see what details I can.
	When you say, take another look, do you go into a state of meditation?
	Yeah, it's a state of heightened consciousness in which I One of my favorite techniques is merging consciousness with another person and kind of read their future.
	Because it's hard to do it myself.
	And so the thing that they'll pay attention to, then I can bring to pretty accurately.
	And of course there's another measure as well.
	If people in Southern California start having dreams about a major earthquake, Then we can be fairly certain it's coming close.
	This has been documented.
	In 1967, a coal chip in the little town of Aberfan in Wales came down and buried the schoolhouse.
	All those kids were killed.
	But there were a number of people who had premonitions of this, mostly in dreams, including one kid.
	who died, who told his mother the night before, I saw something black coming down over the
	schoolhouse.
	She said, never mind, just go off to school.
	But at any rate, we seem to operate, especially in our dreams, to detect any possible dangers.
	It's part of our hereditary evolutionary skills.
	I always ask people like yourself, whether you think that we have always had this ability
	In fact, whether long ago, when we were more spiritual, closer to the earth, this ability was more pronounced, and or whether in the process of evolution, if that's what you believe, we are increasingly becoming more psychic.
	Well, I mean, there hasn't been any serious evolution, you know, biologically for You know, hundreds of thousands of years probably, but the very fact that this information comes mostly in pictures and feelings rather than words, I think indicates a very ancient origin.
	And my theory about it is that the people are ancestors who had dreams about being attacked by a tiger and woke up and ran, or climbed on a tree or something.
	They're the ones who survived when the tiger attacked.
	The people who said, oh, it's just a dream, they were the ones who got eaten.
	Funny thing about dreams is, though, even in Los Angeles, large as the area is, a lot of people might have dreams about an earthquake, and they'd wake up in the morning and say, damn, what a nightmare.
	No thank you.
	And, you know, by the time they've had their second cup of coffee, they've already forgotten about it.
	There are some people, though, who do maintain a tiny, tiny percentage.
	I work with a group here in Santa Monica.
	We meet every other Tuesday.
	It's part of the Intuition Network's InReaching, Intuition local groups.
	And so we keep track of our dreams and we share them and discuss them.
	And of course there's the Association for the Study of Dreams.
	It's all over the world now.
	So there are people who do monitor dreams, but it's still a very small, tiny thing.
	But it's especially people who have a track record, have a history of premonitions and dreams, or other ways, too.
	When they begin to feel nervous, when they begin to have dreams of something in their own life being affected by earthquakes, that's the time to listen very carefully.
	How big do you think this earthquake is going to be?
	I mean, the question people really have in mind is what kind of damage can it cause in Los Angeles?
	And there, as I said before, greater damage than the Northridge quake.
	Well, that would mean if the epicenter was 100 miles from Los Angeles east of That some areas of the desert would be really devastated.
	Yeah, the figure I got was like an 8.0 or maybe 7.8, something on that order that would be huge for Southern California.
	Yes, it would.
	7.8, 8.0, devastating.
	Yeah, I think it was an 8.0 that did in San Francisco back in the early part of the century.
	I think that's correct, yes.
	Um, that's... Now, what do you do with that information, other than perhaps come on a show like mine, where obviously your prediction is registered, or register it with somebody?
	You go to the authorities?
	I mean, to know something like this, to have knowledge of this, with your track record, you have a responsibility, don't you?
	To do something, I mean, go to authorities, or what?
	Well, no.
	The authorities will say, well, nobody can predict earthquakes.
	And they've said that many times, including themselves.
	They can't predict earthquakes, so they assume that nobody can.
	You know who Jim... Gordon Michael Scallion, I think.
	I know he's made a number of attempts.
	Yes.
	He would talk about windows, a possibility.
	Yes.
	You know, the fact that he's been wrong a number of times about this is not a reflection, I think, on his predictive ability, but rather on the changing probabilities.
	What about Jim Birkland?
	The geologist?
	You know about him?
	Oh, yes, yes.
	Now, he uses a rather unusual method.
	He watches newspapers for lost animals.
	And when the number of lost animals doubles or triples, goes up significantly, he will predict an earthquake.
	And of course, he's been dead on.
	Well, for certain kind of earthquakes, of course, you know, the Chinese have been, they were quite successful in predicting one earthquake.
	It happened in a certain way, but a devastating one, they didn't have a clue about it.
	Right.
	And so, I mean, that's part of the problem with earthquakes, they're caused in different ways.
	So what my hope is, is that scientific scientists will start taking this seriously and instead of standing there with their arms folded and peering down over their glasses at these people that call themselves psychics, being judgmental, that they'll try to work with them so as to create a new science of seismology.
	I think there's so much more to be learned, and that the present physical methods have faded out.
	They just, you know, don't seem to go anywhere.
	Well, the big problem, of course, is repeatability.
	The scientists, they want repeatability.
	If they see it happen once, they say, hmm, interesting.
	Let's see if we can prove it.
	I recall now some scientists, earthquake scientists, So that's yours.
	Anyway, 99, either early or as late as December.
	area earthquake would repeat every 16 years so they said oh yeah they cleared out the area
	nothing happened nothing happened and and i think lately they've been kind of quiet about
	making predictions because they've been embarrassed so many times so that's yours anyway 99 either
	early or as late as yeah well as i say in december i'll take a closer look at this
	and see now um what the current possibilities are california is not falling in the ocean
	a lot of buildings well you know that whole that whole thing was started by some by a geologist who
	who um wrote a book a little pamphlet about agri cases predictions
	and what casey had said was that there will be uh Inundation by earthquakes, meaning a lot of earthquakes, but the geologists put in the word caused by making it sound like a water inundation.
	And that started it.
	I don't think California is in any danger of whatever falling into the sea.
	I think all those predictions have just become part of the cult.
	And in some cases, wishful thinking.
	Yeah, well I think sometimes, too, and it's been demonstrated that people will project their own anxieties and worries and their own, perhaps, disastrous futures into predictions like this.
	There was a psychic living in San Francisco, a Dutch psychic named Elizabeth Steen, for instance, who caused an uproar.
	In 1968, with her visions of an earthquake that would destroy San Francisco, this is a column, newspaper column, and then, and she gave a date for it.
	And suddenly, others started coming out of the woodwork after the word got around, saying the same thing.
	Well, on that day, oh, she was so terrified that she moved to Las Vegas.
	Las Vegas?
	Yeah.
	But on that day, she died.
	She died on that day?
	Yes, of some rare disease.
	Oh.
	So it was a personal projection.
	Oh, that's a remarkable story.
	Hold on, Doctor.
	Dr. Alan Vaughn is my guest.
	By record, he is the world's most successful predictor, and he'll be right back.
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	25th, 1998. You know, when you think about it, to be documented by an organization, to
	be 54% accurate with regard to very specific predictions is a very difficult thing to do.
	Is way beyond any possibility of chance.
	And that is exactly the case with my guest, Dr. Alan Vaughn.
	We're going to ask him about a few other areas like our economy, our ecology, and war.
	All things that would seem to be a predictive target.
	You know, big things that occur.
	and I'm told by many who are prophets that the biggest things are really the easiest
	to predict.
	Although I must say, the story he just told me about that lady who keeled over dead on
	the day she had predicted an earthquake takes me back a little.
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	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from November 25th, 1998.
	Music Dr. Vaughn, welcome back.
	We are going to go to the phones in a bit here.
	But I want to ask you about several areas.
	One of obvious interest to everybody is our economy.
	The stock market fell a couple thousand points through the summer, has now come back, hit a new record high.
	Any thoughts on our economy looking into the future?
	Oh, yeah, well, in January, a client of mine asked me about the market, and I said that The Dow Jones would finish the year at over 9,100.
	But that there would be a decline in the middle of the year, I thought around August.
	Somebody sent me a paper, one of these stock report things, dated I think in December.
	They said, oh yeah, the Dow is going down to 5,800.
	Well it just hit 9,300 now.
	Yes it did.
	So I feel that we may have a little slump, but it was, still with my original prediction, could be over 9,100, between 9,100 and 1,000, 10,000 I mean.
	10,000.
	So I think, and in general, I feel for the next two years we'll be doing fine, and then at that point I think there's a large Possibility of a recession.
	But it's not set yet.
	We've gone through the longest period that I know of in our history, while I've been alive, of not having a recession.
	The recessions used to come on a fairly regular basis, and we've held it off somehow.
	Yeah, well, we'll see.
	It's interesting.
	I heard earlier in the show predictions about The year 2000 problem with computers?
	Yes.
	Well, my feeling is that the real problem is not from computer malfunction, but because in the year 2000 it will be a solar maximum.
	You know, the 11-year solar cycle?
	Oh, listen.
	Actually, that's half the solar cycle.
	A full cycle is 22 years.
	Okay, but at any rate... Every 11 years.
	Yeah, we're headed toward... We're in the ascension portion of this cycle now.
	Do you know that in the last, oh, I don't know, six days, we've had four or five what are called X-class flares?
	The sun is really going bananas.
	I believe in the year 2000 we're going to have a magnetic flare that is going to disrupt communications considerably everywhere, including computers.
	Though, I think we'll also be forewarned of that with this new satellite they have keeping an eye on the sun.
	It's called SOHO.
	Yes, exactly.
	So I think that's technically correct.
	That light itself might be knocked out, but that'll give us a clue.
	You know, when someone goes suddenly silent, look out, something's on the way, I guess.
	Well, I don't know what I'd do.
	I'd cry.
	I've got about six computers in the house, and I'd probably be running around looking for lead shielding or something.
	Yeah, well, if you turn them off, I think that's a big help.
	Uh-huh.
	But anyway, I think we'll be able to handle that.
	My sense of the future is opposite the gloom and doom I hear so often.
	I've been reviewing predictions for 30 years.
	I spent time in the British Museum Library, New York Public Library, libraries in Germany, looking over books on prophecy, back to the beginning of printing.
	And you see these cycles of everybody's predicting gloom and doom, and most of it's based on the Bible, on the book of Revelation.
	And so, once somebody takes that as the expectation, and now all they're trying to do is figure out the exact date, you know, it's no longer prophetic.
	It's a logical thing, and it never works.
	Not to go the other direction, but let's... The ecology, our ecology, a lot of very interesting worrisome things are occurring with our ecological system on Earth right now.
	We have unbelievable air pollution in many parts of the world.
	And when I say unbelievable, I was in Bangkok, where about half the traffic cops have lung disease.
	I mean, it's really that bad.
	Your eyes sting.
	Oh, you have to have all those forest fires.
	Your lungs hurt.
	It's terrible.
	We have pieces of ice breaking off in the Antarctic, and apparent global warming.
	We have ozone thinning.
	We have all kinds of nasty things going on.
	Well, I'm going to say the brightening thing here.
	In fact, I'm in the process of writing a book on it, The Increasing Alien Presence.
	We are going to be able to assume, in fact it's already started, that we're going to be channeling, as it were, or receiving information from consciousness beyond our planet with help to combat these situations.
	Wow!
	That we are going to achieve a rapid advance in technology.
	That will enable us to do some pretty miraculous things.
	And this will be some sort of mental communication?
	I believe so, yeah.
	And will it occur to many people at once?
	I think so.
	I think it's becoming more and more widespread.
	You know, the Earth's magnetic field has lost half of its strength in the last 2,000 years, and it's going to lose the rest of it over the next 2,000 years, scientists predict.
	It's during this period where, because of the thinning of this barrier to other dimensions, that people are going to become more psychic, more intuitive, more sensitive, and more open to receiving new ideas, technology.
	I think we can already see this in the young generation.
	They call it, well, by various names.
	But nonetheless, these problems that you cite that seem so appalling, so beyond human control.
	Intractable.
	I believe we are going to be able to get some control over it.
	But the control will come from an external source.
	Yeah.
	People may not be aware of it.
	Well, I wouldn't say the control.
	Well, it's a new technology.
	I call it the alien mind technology.
	We already have the latent powers.
	They're just going to be awakening what we already have within us, but don't use.
	Let me read you something I got, if I might.
	It is entitled, What would happen if the magnetic field of the Earth suddenly changed?
	If the magnetic field of the Earth suddenly changed, and this does, science knows, happen naturally every 250,000 years or so, the consequences would be fascinating for life, We can see from the fossil record that the past field changes had no significant effect on living organisms.
	This is most curious because the field reversal, North Magnetic Pole shifting to Antarctica and the South Magnetic Pole shifting to the Arctic region in the Northern Hemisphere, one might expect the field to go to zero strength for a century or so.
	This would allow cosmic rays to freely penetrate the Earth's surface causing Mutations.
	We also know from studies of the Sun's magnetic dynamo that this phenomenon can change abruptly as it did during the, quote, Little Ice Age, end quote, on the Earth a few hundred years ago.
	There were no sunspots.
	Repeat, no sunspots observed on the Sun for 50 years or so, then rather abruptly, the familiar 11-year cycle began over the course of a few decades.
	So, A lot of people feel that what we know or think of or science thinks of as ongoing and a very slow evolution of humankind is not in fact that at all.
	That it occurs very rapidly when there is a sudden eruption from the sun and the earth is irradiated and there are mutations which we now think of as evolution.
	Does that sound real?
	That's very intriguing, yes.
	Well, certainly the literature I've read says that when the magnetic field goes to zero that, of course, we will be bombarded by radiation from the sun, which will kill everything.
	But, you know, I disagree with the With a theory that this is going to last for a hundred years or so.
	I don't think so.
	A lot of Israeli scientists now believe the dinosaurs were killed not by a big rock slamming into Earth, but rather by exactly what we just talked about.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, one of the predictions I made two years ago was about 1999, and it was that scientists would begin to talk about The magnetic field decreasing faster than it had been predicted to decrease.
	So, I think things are changing.
	One more important area of prediction to ask you about, and that is war.
	Let me first ask you this.
	Are things, big things, that affect many humans on the planet easier to predict than the small stuff?
	Actually not.
	Really?
	Yeah, I found in my research with psychics and mediums, whenever I asked them to predict, you know, major things that would be world important, they would say, I can't do that.
	It's too abstract.
	I can make predictions about people.
	Well, for instance, in my first book, Patterns of Prophecy, which came out 25 years ago, I predicted that Russia and America would go into alliance.
	Whereas everybody else was predicting war.
	Let's stay with war for a second.
	I feel that war is going to be brought under control.
	That you'll have the grass fires that were the Saddam Husseins trying to cause trouble.
	But I think they're going to be stepped on.
	Well, the trouble is we've got to keep stepping and stepping.
	I would say the evolution of human consciousness.
	The things are actually a lot better now than they were, we'll say, a thousand years ago, for instance, where war was the accepted way.
	And this wasn't any concept of life without war.
	So you think wars will be fewer?
	Yes, I think that we'll be able to combat them, to limit them, to stop them from spreading.
	Absolutely.
	Well, in my Patterns of Prophecy from 1972, I predicted the Pax Americana, American peace, that we would be the world leaders in creating peace around the globe.
	And it looks like that's exactly what's happening.
	And I think this is going to grow even stronger with the United Nations becoming more enforced.
	So I don't believe I think that's the key thing because I believe the most important thing that's going to be happening on our planet is more and more people are going to attain a higher spiritual consciousness and this is what's going to create an environment that makes peace not only possible
	That's permanent.
	So then you too believe that we virtually create our own realities?
	Absolutely.
	And I think it's not just a metaphor, I believe.
	I read about this in my book, Incredible Coincidence, The Baffling World of Synchronicity.
	How many books have you written?
	Seven.
	Seven?
	Okay.
	But that one's still in print, Valentine.
	But I presented a basic theory that consciousness creates reality At the atomic level, or the subatomic level, that our mind influences things and creates space, time and matter.
	Outlined on a scientific paper are a dozen experimental tests of it.
	In fact, one of those tests has already been done at Princeton by the group you were talking about earlier.
	Yes, indeed.
	People were trying to use psychokinesis, trying to influence a computer, that each individual would have his own, what they call, a signature.
	I had called it a mind print, you know.
	So you could look at the data and say, oh yeah, Susie did this one.
	That's right.
	And I also say in that book... People don't believe this is real.
	I've talked about it on the air.
	The research is nothing short of remarkable and scientifically verifiable, and people still don't believe it.
	Well, it's because, you know, they can't relate it to their ordinary experience.
	I guess.
	I guess, I guess that's right.
	But I think it's probably because also they haven't paid attention to their ordinary experience.
	There are some very extraordinary things going on all the time, and I just, you know, don't observe them.
	Just say, oh, well, it must be coincidence.
	Or I must be mistaken about that.
	For instance, a phenomenon like teleportation, which fascinated me.
	Physicists don't like to think that that might exist on a large scale level.
	Yeah, they were in Austria early this year.
	They did an experiment in teleportation.
	You know IBM is working on it, too.
	Yeah.
	But when I give a lecture on this sort of thing, I ask people, have you ever had such an experience?
	And it's interesting.
	They'll say, well, I never wanted to talk about this before because people would think I'm nuts.
	You know, they describe something.
	A friend of mine, for instance, was being interviewed on a radio show by a skeptic.
	She's an intuitive and also a Ph.D.
	And she got so flustered that the pendant around her neck vanished.
	And her husband was looking for it, and a woman friend was looking for it, and it stayed vanished for about five minutes.
	And then, boom, it was back.
	You know, it's not the sort of thing you tell people at the scientific meeting to gain their confidence.
	No, it's true.
	But that's the clue, though, to reality.
	Do you ever do personal In other words, somebody will come to you and ask you to issue some sort of prophetic statement about their own personal future.
	Actually, that's what I do professionally.
	I look into the future for people.
	The way I do it is to get in touch with their higher self to see what their inner destiny might have planned for them and also to answer their specific questions.
	Well, if you look into somebody's future and you see disaster, do you tell them?
	Well, I haven't seen that.
	I think it's because it could be I have a subconscious block against telling people something that will be of no use to them, or that might frighten them needlessly.
	Well, I mean, people die every day as they're born every day, so inevitably, as you look at individuals, Eventually you're going to run into somebody that... Well, I can recall once I gave a lecture at a school in the Bay Area, a high school, and one of the kids told the teacher to pass the message on to me that I might be in an accident on April 19th.
	Now, on April 18th, I was scheduled to give a lecture in Monterey, and after the lecture, it was late, and my wife and I were... well, she was driving.
	I don't drive.
	It was after midnight.
	We were going back to our hotel, and for no particular reason, I said, oh, let's turn left here, although the light was green.
	And suddenly, through that intersection, a car came about 50 miles an hour.
	And if we'd been in that intersection, I wouldn't be talking to you.
	I had a sense of relief.
	I said, oh, there was my accident.
	It happened about 10 minutes after.
	Again, that brings up an awful lot of questions about the nature of time.
	Very quickly, time travel, will it be possible eventually, yes or no?
	Well, we can time travel right now.
	Alright, hold it right there.
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	It's way out there.
	These groups of extraterrestrials that are unfriendly, many of which are hiding down there at the bottom of the ocean, why don't they want us to know about this?
	We've lost people in wars with UFOs.
	You know, we spend a lot of time honoring our heroes, and we have heroes that we don't know about.
	It's disturbing to that extent because we have a debt to people who have defended us, and we'll never know who they are.
	Back now to Dr. Vaughn.
	Dr. Vaughn, the question about time travel brought an interesting response.
	We can do it now?
	Back now to Dr. Vaughn.
	Dr. Vaughn, the question about time travel brought an interesting response.
	We can do it now?
	Yes.
	If you understand that our reality as we perceive it in the solid concrete world is in a sense
	an illusion and that time is well in a sense in our minds.
	But I know from having done it lots of times that it's possible to go into the past as well as into what's called possible futures.
	To be focused on this, to be disciplined, and to have a reason to do it.
	It's not a game.
	Psychometry, where you're handed an object and you then perceive information about that object, is often a good way to tune in to the right era.
	It's like watching a movie in your head, say of the past, and you can describe Many details.
	Some people will have dreams about this.
	Now when it comes to going into the future, again we can do that through dreams but we
	can also do it in our waking state.
	An exercise that I often do with people is to take them into the future and then look
	back and see how they got there.
	For instance, I had a babysitter.
	I was living in San Francisco.
	She had a Ph.D.
	in theater, but she was out of work.
	I said, all right, I'm going to take you into the future, a year in the future.
	You're looking back.
	What are you doing?
	She said, oh, I've got a grant from a foundation.
	I'm teaching kids how to act.
	A strange look came over her face.
	She said, I never thought of that.
	She applied for a grant?
	The foundation got it and started teaching kids theater.
	That can be a very practical kind of time travel.
	A friend of mine, by the way, harkening back to Dream Diaries.
	Yeah.
	He lives down near you.
	His name is Daryl and he writes, Art, if I maintained a dream diary, I'd move to Cleveland.
	He's having dreams.
	Dreams about Cleveland, maybe?
	Well, no.
	No, he lives, Doctor, near you.
	In San Monica?
	Or in Los Angeles?
	That's right.
	Yes, San Monica.
	Oh, he's had dreams about Cleveland.
	No, he's had dreams about San Monica.
	Oh, I see.
	Well, you know, it's interesting because, although I've been here just over a year in the San Monica area, when I was a kid, about eight years old, I had this repeating dream about some fantasy magical land.
	It was by the ocean and there was a big ferris wheel and a merry-go-round and it was wonderful.
	Then when I moved to Santa Monica, I went down to the pier and I looked at the ferris wheel.
	I looked at the merry-go-round and I thought, oh, I'm finally here in my magical land.
	So I was dreaming about events.
	Over 50 years in the future.
	I think everyone is capable of this kind of time travel.
	I think we're restricted only by our thoughts about reality.
	We kind of put a straitjacket on ourselves and we're brought up that way.
	It's not nice to time travel.
	Well, when we're kids, you know, the teachers want us to pay attention to the schoolwork and so on.
	We can't do that if we're daydreaming about being in the future or being in the past or whatever.
	But we're able to do this.
	Although, I expect your question was, will we have an apparatus that anybody could step into without any mental training at all?
	Do you imagine that?
	Well, yes, I can.
	But again, I have to say that this is still a mental trip.
	I mean, everything we perceive is in our brain.
	Well, somebody once said, and I think it's a great comment, if time travel will ever be possible, then where are the time travelers?
	I don't see them.
	They're in another dimension looking at us.
	In fact, I wrote a movie scenario based on this idea, that we would Have you done any research into remote viewing?
	Oh yes, I've done a lot of work in remote viewing over the years.
	In other words, look at things through their eyes.
	Through their eyes.
	Which is what we do.
	I mean, what I do when I'm doing my psychic work, I join consciousness with the person
	and begin to look at things through their eyes.
	That's the first stage of it.
	Have you done any research into remote viewing?
	Oh yes, I've done a lot of work in remote viewing over the years.
	Your conclusions?
	Well, again, I think this is something that most people can learn to do.
	It's certainly, oh, safer and saner than going out of your body.
	I mean, for most people, I think that can be a little dangerous, though some people are certainly adept at it.
	Aha!
	Aha!
	Finally, somebody who says that.
	I have interviewed, I can't tell you how many people on out-of-body travel.
	I've done a number of shows on it.
	I've had one experience of my own, which I will not bore you with.
	Oh, I heard you tell it.
	I think the directory.
	Good, good, good.
	I'm glad.
	I don't have to retell it.
	But almost inevitably, every guest who comes on the program, I will ask, look, isn't there some danger?
	And they all inevitably say, oh, no, no, no danger.
	Well, I recall when I first got interested in that phenomenon, oh, many years ago.
	And I talked with three people who, one after the other, who didn't know each other, who'd had their out-of-body experiences during dreams.
	And all three of them said that they were these dark entities that were trying to get into their body while they were out.
	And they were terrified and powerless.
	And that's a very frightening experience.
	I don't think you should leave the store unattended.
	Uh, but without, uh, again going into details, the one experience that I did have was, uh, I didn't invite it.
	I didn't know it was coming.
	I had no warning.
	None of the usual classic anythings, just kaboom.
	It happened.
	And it happened without my willing it to occur.
	It's really weird.
	Well, I, as I recall, uh, telling you that you were in Paris in a hotel.
	Yes, yes.
	Your consciousness suddenly shot out of the top of your head and up to the roof and into the sky.
	I was above Paris.
	Yeah, the brilliance of the lights of Paris.
	But I wasn't really particularly conscious of that.
	I saw it, but it was, believe me, a minor, insignificant detail compared to what I was feeling, which was this indescribable ecstasy Ah, well that's the important thing.
	So surprising, so shocking.
	My feeling is that what you described is sort of an emotional exaltation.
	I recall a friend, she's the wife of a friend of mine, who had a very similar experience while making love.
	And she shot out of her body and it was like fireworks.
	She could see everything and then she came back to her body and she could hear bells.
	It was for her an emotional high point.
	Now that's very different from say traveling to visit someone and kind of looking around
	and seeing what's going on.
	I mean there's an emotional reason for it.
	I suppose.
	I would suggest that your experience is part of an opening to a higher consciousness.
	When I take people through meditations, I tell them that people often experience this sort of thing on the threshold of death.
	They'll have these out-of-body experiences or near-death experiences.
	And that they should not be reserved until the end.
	Until death.
	That we can do it now.
	And that we can go right above our heads.
	Our consciousness can do that.
	And to look at our lives.
	Here is a one-sentence comment for you, Doctor.
	Yes.
	Doctor Vaughan's predictions are the same as meditation's and are satanic.
	Oh, I see.
	I must be from an expert on Satanism, I have no idea.
	Could be.
	Do you hear that frequently?
	Well, I have, yeah, very often people who are in fundamentalist groups, their cults, only know what their leader tells them, and they haven't done any research themselves.
	But if you read St.
	Paul's letters to the Corinthians, He talks about, at great length, the value of prophecy and urges every Christian to learn how to prophesy.
	He feels of the gifts of Spirit.
	Of course, I write about this in my new book, There Are Ways to Higher Consciousness, published by Celeste Press.
	We're dedicated to St.
	Paul's view that by learning to prophesy we can ennoble That was the practice in the early Christian Church, and every member of the group was expected to do this, and it's exactly what we call doing a psychic reading today.
	I mean, you make it very clear.
	But there was a second purpose, and that was to convince the skeptics.
	He said, well, you could look into the dark secrets of the skeptics and reveal it, and And know that you are in touch with God, that you are channeling the Holy Spirit.
	For people who purport to be Christians and deny the precepts of the Founder of Christianity, I suggest that they're in total ignorance.
	You believe in God, the Big G?
	Well, I think you're... You know, I used to be a skeptic about that.
	I didn't believe in God.
	When I was young, during my college years and so on, but as soon as I began to experience the phenomenon of higher consciousness, all the things that I had been taught to believe didn't exist, like ghosts and what have you, and became in first-hand contact with that, it was the most extraordinary revelation.
	Not only is there a God, but I was in contact, participating with God, that I had a spark of God myself.
	I can't say that I have.
	The closest I guess I would say I was was that Paris experience.
	I think that's an opening.
	I mean, when you make that contact.
	Have you had that experience, Aaron?
	I can't say that I have.
	No?
	Well, I mean, the closest I guess I would say I was was that Paris experience.
	Well, I think that's an opening.
	First of all, you realize you're more than just flesh and bone.
	That there's an important part of you that's...
	I'm not sure of that, Doctor.
	Oh, yeah?
	I'm not sure of that.
	So what part of you went up above your head and looked at Paris?
	Well, look, I... Not the flesh and bones.
	Look, I firmly believe that our conscious brains, we don't know a whole lot about... In fact, we probably know a fraction of what we ought to know about what our brains are capable of doing.
	And who's to say that what happened to me is not A function of a living, conscious, working brain.
	But that is not, I can't extend that to automatically include a life that follows this one, a soul, an immortal soul.
	Oh yes, but that goes along with the big G, God.
	That's related, yeah.
	I have a great deal of respect for what our living brains can do, but I have not yet made the extension to be able to accept a life following this one existence, a reincarnation, a whatever may lie over on the other side.
	I have not yet made that connection.
	How have you?
	Well, by experiencing.
	Interviews on the other side.
	When I first began doing research on this question in England in 1967, there were three mediums that told me that one day I would channel an entity, a Chinese entity, named Li Song.
	I said, over my dead body.
	I was scared to death of the whole idea.
	Fifteen years later, it happened spontaneously while I was teaching a psychic seminar, or actually afterward.
	It was a wonderful feeling, though.
	It was a feeling of shared consciousness.
	I must tell you, I've always been a great skeptic when it comes to channeling.
	Well, I was, too.
	And certainly there are a lot of people, especially the ones that are so often appearing in the media, that one could cast great doubts on.
	But when you experience it yourself and realize that Well, of course, I use the term channeling as a model for all these psychic perceptions.
	It explains how the gifts of spirit work.
	Channel energy.
	Explain to me how one is to discern the difference between what you call channeling, in other words, actually bringing forth the thoughts or feelings or whatever of an external entity And something generated within your own brain?
	Well, first of all, that we experience channeling when we do anything psychic.
	We're bringing through information from our higher self that's in another dimension.
	That part of us is already in another dimension.
	And that because of that, we are able also to bring in contact through what's called discarnates, other energies that can sometimes Demonstrate knowledge that is beyond anything we know.
	And importantly, there are cases where it's a fundamental emotional interest to the entity to communicate this information.
	An example, for instance, of a famous case of a young man who was killed.
	My wife didn't have a sense.
	His four-year-old boy, though, began to doodle something strange.
	A friend of the father's recognized it as a certain type of shorthand.
	This shorthand was known by the father.
	But when he translated it turned out to be a message about a bank account.
	And New York Bank, as they were some other states.
	You see, these stories do... Well, that... No, she was able to get the money out.
	I've got you.
	No, these stories do impress me.
	No question about it.
	That's something you can put your hand on and understand.
	Hold on, Doctor.
	Very nice facts from somebody from South Africa.
	Hi there, Art.
	My name is Christian.
	I live on a farm in South Africa.
	Stellenbosch, it looks like.
	About 45 minutes from Cape Town.
	I see you're wearing your Cape Town T-shirt.
	Yes, he says.
	You're always welcome back in the Cape.
	Come visit again.
	Regards, Christian.
	So they're listening to us down in South Africa.
	Nice to know, and good morning to you.
	I'm Art Bell.
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	Good morning, everybody.
	And I guess, happy Thanksgiving, huh?
	Listen, we're about to start taking calls for Dr. Vaughn.
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	Let's talk a little bit about the shadow government.
	Do you believe it's there?
	Yeah, we've heard that term, you know, for so many years, and I thought it was this group in the Netherlands that sit behind smoked windows and make decisions like, you know, giant players of chess.
	But it isn't.
	We don't have The government anymore.
	What we have is a loose coalition of bureaucracies.
	But we have no representation in that government.
	So when I look at the Constitution, I see it as a really inspired and eternal document that has been sidestepped in almost every legal way possible.
	So the process itself has been intentionally manipulated to facilitate a certain style of government.
	And it's taken a while to set up.
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	♪♪♪ Alright, uh, here we go.
	Dr. Vaughn, if you're there and ready.
	Yes, indeed.
	There certainly are a lot of people who would like to talk to you.
	So here we go.
	First time caller line, you are on the air with Dr. Vaughn.
	Hi.
	Hello, this is John in Tennessee.
	Hi, John.
	Hi, John.
	Hello, doctor.
	I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on something.
	Indeed.
	And it has to do with the stock market.
	I don't like to call myself a prophet.
	I would call myself a mathematical seer.
	I've been studying market movements for about eight years, financial astrology extensively, and some people say the market's going to go up, it's going to go down.
	They're very vague about it.
	I would like to project an exact date of when the stock market is.
	Thank you, R, for taking my call, because it's so important that I call tonight.
	Sure.
	Because I think the stock market is going to make its high Friday, this Friday, November 27th, and this high is going to last for a long time.
	I also wanted to get the doctor's feedback on astrology in general and what you think about it.
	Well, you contradict me.
	I say it's going to be over 9,100 at the end of the year.
	It's about 9,300 now.
	I think it's going to be well below 9,100.
	Oh, you think it's going to go down after the 27th?
	No, well, yes, I think the high is going to be formed Friday and the market is going to begin a possibly violent decline next week, which will last into next year.
	Oh, well, that's not something I disagree with, but we'll see what happens.
	We don't have long to wait.
	Someone told me their psyche compression was that there would be a decline.
	In November.
	And I said, I think that could well happen.
	It'll be like a roller coaster effect.
	It'll come back up.
	We'll see.
	Well, Art brought it up earlier.
	He said, in order for these, for profits, I think, for anyone claiming to be able to predict the future, they've got to be able to repeat.
	You know, it has to systematically repeat.
	What I'm doing is not intuition or anything like that.
	What I have found is that Changes in the Earth's magnetic field greatly affect human beings, greatly affect the markets.
	There is no better place to study these changes.
	Well, that's a fascinating theory.
	I'd love to read about it.
	Well, I have a website.
	If you would let me, I'd love to get it out there.
	No, I can't let you do it.
	Now, you can give it to me privately, if I check it out.
	I've had too many bad experiences with website addresses.
	That turned into porn sites, sorry.
	I understand.
	So, you get it to me privately, I'll check it out, and then I'll get it up.
	I'll fax it to you, and I really appreciate you letting me get on.
	Okay, my friend.
	Thank you, John.
	Take care.
	Well, as they say, time will tell.
	Yeah, well, I should point out, John, you know that I do have a track record in this area.
	My published predictions about economics and finance, financial world, have I've been quite accurate.
	In 1980, for instance, the Book of Predictions published my prediction that the inflation rate would subside from 12% down to 8.5% by mid-1981, and that was exactly what happened, whereas all the professional economists were saying it was going to go double-digit.
	Precisely.
	And my 1993 financial predictions published in Fate magazine were exactly on the mark.
	Which is not to say that what he's doing might not be really intriguing.
	A mathematician friend of mine has, for instance, developed a formula for predicting a group of stocks, and so far this year he's up 50% with his investors.
	So there may well be some logical ways to do this.
	Alright, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Dr. Vaughn.
	Good morning.
	Hi, this is Catherine in Los Angeles.
	Thanks a lot for taking my call.
	Hi, Catherine.
	Okay, well, I've got a quick question for you.
	I was wondering if you had any theories on, well, like, you know when you have the little synchronicities in your life, like, well, I just moved to Los Angeles, but a while ago I was living in Wisconsin, and I used to belong to the PETA, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
	I had been hoping that I would get some information in the mail from them and the same day that I had been asking my mother about it I got some stuff in the mail and you know how you can just sort of make things like that happen?
	Do you know what I mean?
	I think synchronicity provides signposts of life.
	Right.
	It lets you know if something is going right and it also lets you know if something is going wrong when the coincidences are negative.
	Yeah, but I guess I should word it a little bit differently.
	When you notice the coincidences that are happening in your life, it seems like sometimes, or maybe it's just me, and I don't think it is just me, but you'll notice them more frequently than other times.
	Absolutely.
	In my book, Incredible Coincidence, I have a chapter on the synchronicity of synchronicity, meaning that once you get attuned to this, you seem to create more synchronicity in your life.
	My theory about it is that you're fulfilling your life's plan and that when you're going along in the proper way then everything seems to fall into place and you begin to notice it as well.
	Just when you're connected with yourself?
	Yes, and you especially notice this during times of change.
	Okay, and also I have one other real quick question.
	Do you have any theories on, well I know in the Celestian Prophecy James Redfield's book, he talks about crossing over from life to death without dying.
	Are you familiar with that?
	Yeah, I've read the book.
	In fact, in his workbook, he quotes my book.
	I think I gave him some ideas there.
	What is your idea on that?
	Do you think people are going to start doing that more frequently in the future?
	My feeling is that what's going to be happening here in the future Is that more and more people are going to be attaining a higher consciousness and that they will thereby come into contact with other entities in other dimensions and realize also that they themselves are already in another dimension in part.
	And so the more we become aware of this extra dimensional aspect of our being, our higher I think the more we can attune ourselves to our life's path.
	So you think consciousness continues after physical death?
	It precedes physical life and it continues after physical life.
	It's neither created nor destroyed.
	It's energy.
	Well, energy is certainly not destroyed.
	There's no question about that, but whether it exists in a form that we would recognize as consciousness or not, I think, is an open question.
	Well, it certainly is a very open scientific question, absolutely.
	There's great debate about it, and I think there will be.
	But from a... These scientists are arguing from a logical point of view, that is to say, without having any experience of what they're talking about.
	Are you familiar with Daniel Brinkley?
	Yes, I am.
	I have, Dr. Vaughan, run into a lot of people who claim psychic abilities of all kinds.
	a handbook called the psychic exploration yes so i'm i'm not really a partner
	are you familiar with daniel brinkley uh... you know if i can
	uh... i have dr long run into a lot of people who claims psychic abilities of
	all kinds daniel brinkley
	i have seen him uh...
	again and again and again and again so many times that uh... daniel is not easy to be with
	frankly you know uh...
	He's constantly psychic.
	I mean, it's going on all the time.
	His story is well documented.
	He was struck by lightning.
	Yeah, I'm familiar with his story.
	And there are quite a few cases of that sort.
	Well, he's at sort of a disadvantage in a way because this came upon him like a ton of bricks all at once.
	And so he's totally fascinated with it.
	And it's become the major thing in his life.
	Is it possible, do you think, that there is a part of our brain that Going back, for example, to my one experience of precognition, or my one experience of out-of-body, or whatever, that is quite familiar with these kinds of things, and that in the normal human, they simply, generally, are dormant.
	But in the case of somebody like Daniel, who was struck by lightning, body catches on fire, he dies, something in the brain changes, and all of this comes forward.
	Certainly, I've interviewed I suppose at least hundreds of people about how they became psychic, often professional psychics, and it's a common theme of some sort of shock, not necessarily lightning.
	It could be an emotional shock.
	Any trauma?
	Yeah, that seems to awaken.
	There's psychic abilities often starting with premonitions or negative things, which always have the strongest amount of energy, but then learning how to control it.
	I doubt that there is a physical change in the brain.
	The theory I adhere to is that consciousness is using the brain as an instrument.
	It's true.
	It is true.
	And it's hard to imagine how that can be other than the fact that we simply don't make use of the majority of our brain.
	that are even at the end of the talk to have half their brains removed and then
	they do fine it's true
	it is true and it's hard to imagine how that can be other than
	the fact that we simply don't make use of the majority of our brain
	and there are so many areas of it that we uh...
	it was a little bit of a transfer to other perfect paper Oh, I had a friend who had been a Trappist monk, but he had a stroke that destroyed so much of his brain, and I was doing thinning healing to him.
	The doctors didn't think he'd survive the night, but he did.
	Here's a good analogy for you.
	to learn how to speak and did and he lived for quite a few more years.
	Well in fact he christened my first child in the name of the father, the son and the
	holy city.
	I thought well that's close enough for somebody who is not even supposed to be able to talk.
	Here's a good analogy for you.
	If your brain were compared to a computer and the computer operated on an everyday basis
	using not more than, say, a gigabyte of memory.
	But the hard drive was actually ten gigabytes.
	And something came along and ruined nine gigabytes, but left you with that one gigabyte.
	You would continue to function well, though nine-tenths of your capacity was gone.
	You would function as you always have.
	There's evidence that the brain functions holographically.
	You know, that information is spread out all over, although there are certain centers identified with certain specialties.
	But nonetheless, I think there is a good analogy there.
	That the random information goes throughout the drive.
	It's not just located in one spot.
	Well, assuming it's defract.
	Yeah, well, you know, these analogies are inexact.
	But it comes down to extraordinary human functioning, though.
	We go way beyond the brain, and science is still in its infancy in brain science.
	Quite right.
	All right.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Alan Vaughan.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, you're on the air.
	Hey, Art.
	Thank you.
	Where are you?
	I'm right outside of Atlanta.
	My name is Vince.
	Dr. Vaughn, you were talking a while ago about some monks in Tibet that had gone out and they were having a ceremony or something and they had gone out and it was raining and they basically programmed the rain away from them.
	That's right.
	They created a circle of dryness during the duration of their ceremony.
	Right.
	I have personally done this by myself twice.
	I've done it with a friend, a fellow that actually basically showed me how to do it.
	I did it with him once.
	All three of these were good size storms.
	We had a good reason all three times.
	There was a real good reason for doing it.
	I've never tried it since.
	We had some artwork out on the first time when he taught me how to do it.
	With a big major storm coming, it rained all around us.
	It was close enough to where we got blown over spray, but nothing to amount to anything.
	The other two times I had about $50,000 worth of test equipment sitting on the ground.
	And I just made up my mind.
	It took forever to set it all up and it took a long time to take it down.
	I could see the rain coming.
	I just made up my mind I ain't going to get wet.
	And I didn't.
	Again, it was close enough to get a little bit of spray, but you know, some blown in mist, but nothing serious.
	And I don't know whether it amounts to anything or not, but I've also been hit by lightning.
	I was a telephone man for years and this is where all of this was happening.
	Would you share with us what your friend taught you to do?
	Basically, this was back in the old hippie days, back in the end of the 60s, early 70s, and we started out disappearing clouds together.
	And it just kind of gradually went from one thing to another.
	I still go out and disappear clouds just for that.
	So it was essentially a mental training that you went through?
	Right.
	And we have tried one experiment that we have tried for a long time to do was an out of body thing where it was like, okay, whichever one of us gets an out of body experience we're going to go visit the
	other one and then call them later and tell them what we saw, you know, whatever it
	might have been.
	Well, again, you're doing little experiments there so you can get immediate feedback.
	And this strengthens your ability to channel, I'll call it channeling energy.
	So I'm really impressed with your prowess there.
	Good luck.
	That's a little harder to handle.
	Do you encourage people to experiment?
	You, early in the interview, mentioned Ouija board.
	Oh, well, I burned that Ouija board.
	I do not urge people not to touch them.
	It can be really dangerous.
	They scare the hell out of me.
	I got possessed by a spirit later.
	And it stayed in my head for about 24 hours.
	It scared the hell out of me.
	For one thing, I didn't believe in spirits.
	I really didn't know what to do.
	And finally, my higher self made contact with me and gave me the message, each of us has a spirit while living.
	To meddle with the spirits of the dead can lead to possession.
	And as soon as that was said, I wrote it out.
	And I felt this incredible energy rising up my body and it came up to my head and it pushed this possessing entity out of my head and I could feel the
	energy rising above my head though and the person who was with me said oh your face was so white a
	moment ago and now it's so flushed and ruddy you know healthy looking and this experience of
	extreme well-being came over me I never felt so good before. Do you believe uh and the first thing I did
	in my new enlightened state was first that Ouija board down the chute to the incinerator.
	Yeah, good for you.
	Doctor, we are out of time.
	You did, uh, that's a four-hour program.
	You just did whoosh.
	It went real fast.
	Yeah, it does.
	It's such a great pleasure to talk with you, Art, and your very interesting colors.
	Um, oh yes, I've got quite a group out there.
	Well, Doctor, thank you so much, and believe me, we will do it again if you're willing sometime.
	I'd love to.
	Okay.
	Take care, my friend.
	Thank you.
	Good night.
	And good night.
	That's it, folks.
	We are, as my Western Canadian friends would say, out of time.
	I'm going to be in Vancouver soon, too, so you can get me.

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