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Oct. 1, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Ed Dames - Fatima Secret

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	or a radio transmitter in their watch or something like that, you might as well get caught with
	a microphone.
	Oh, bad, bad news, yeah.
	Yes, very bad news.
	Field transmitters, no good.
	Those kinds of things.
	Yep.
	So, it was thought, based upon some earlier work, that we could communicate, an agent
	could communicate using only his or her mind with the agent's handbook outside of the country.
	We're basically talking about telepathy, right?
	A-N-A-F-E Partially, we are.
	But telepathically, remember, is generally, the connotation is generally confused.
	The connotation of that, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh I just now realized what you're talking about now.
	Please bear with me, Ed.
	on the agency society today honestly about that in a moment and then using some clippers and
	threshold values that were transmitted oh god i just i just now realized what you're talking about
	now please bear with me ed are you saying that you were devising a method
	I'm I guess everybody is, you know, we hear the old, we are all individual snowflakes or something or another.
	We all have individual fingerprints and all that baloney.
	So there is something individual enough about our brain function that you could actually design a piece of hardware that would receive information from only that source?
	Is that what you're saying?
	That is exactly correct.
	Wow!
	And necessity is the mother of invention, and we thought, based upon experiments that were conducted both at CIA and at the U.S.
	Army Laboratory Command, there was some evidence to suggest that we could get away with designing something like this, just like we got away with putting together remote viewing and making it work.
	In the end, the money went to remote viewing because intelligence collection requirements were far more important than simple agent communications.
	So they never followed up on the project?
	Only to a certain degree, which I'll get into momentarily.
	But remember, the squeaky wheel gets a degree in needing to know more about the SS-18 and the Soviet spy... That was squeaking a lot louder.
	That's right.
	So this died on the vine, but a couple of us in the Army remembered the experiments.
	At any rate, the idea was for an agent to be able to train that switch that was particular only to him or her using biofeedback techniques so that they could get consistent readings at a distance.
	Alright, I'm with you so far.
	So that if the agent would be able to communicate instead of using a radio transmitter and I don't know how familiar you are with agent communications but in the trade craft it's pretty cut and dry.
	You get on a transmitter and you transmit a series of numbers somewhere and that The host country agency then knows you're in place, or you've completed your mission, it's time for you to be picked up, it's time to serve as a dead drop, those kinds of things.
	Right.
	Well, in this case, we were attempting to design machinery, I'll use that term loosely now, to be able to accomplish the same goal using only the agent's mind and the switch.
	Alright, question.
	I can readily see how you would You would train for this using biofeedback.
	In other words, you would eventually train somebody to be able to send specific biofeedback signals that you would read at a distance.
	But I would imagine it would be fairly simple stuff at first.
	Big emotional biofeedback blasts of one kind or another that could really be read strongly.
	Is that correct?
	It's a mind... Remember, we're really two separate persons here.
	One is our mind, which is always thinking, planning, looking ahead.
	And the other is our emotional body, which is an experiential vehicle.
	It reacts to experiences.
	Yogis can change their heartbeat?
	Yes.
	And much more.
	Yes, and much more.
	And so, this is the same sort of thing.
	You're talking about the same sort of thing, aren't you?
	Yes.
	Let's use a yogi as an example, or someone who is highly trained at modulating their mind-body state, like a yogi.
	Okay.
	If we hook them up... And then if we say, okay, So then you've got an agent on the other side of the world.
	He conjures up the color blue.
	in a certain mind-body state, we see on our histogram here that the color blue looks like
	this in terms of a graph.
	So then you've got an agent on the other side of the world, he conjures up the color blue,
	it registers on your end, and the color blue means extraction.
	Get me the hell out of here.
	Whatever.
	But the trick is, to unhook, it has to be non-contact.
	It has to be done in a non-contact modality.
	In other words, no wires attached.
	No, no, I hear you.
	I understand exactly what you're talking about.
	But what I'm driving at is, was it that simple?
	The goals were that simple to produce a few biofeedback signals that would indicate certain
	things, like extraction or mission accomplished or whatever message you wanted to send?
	Correct.
	A very small dictionary.
	Similar to the commander on a nuclear submarine.
	You're not going to attempt to communicate pages and pages of information, at least in
	Things have changed now, but because you would not expect your communication to get through in a combat environment, especially in a nuclear environment.
	So you would only want to communicate perhaps 30 groups of four digit numbers to allow someone somewhere else to look in the dictionary and see what that means.
	Oh, that's incredible.
	What would be Well, it took us at SciTech a lot of work to pull together the apparatus to make this work.
	And we owe our success to technical remote viewing, for one thing.
	We were able to use technical remote viewing to ascertain the final pieces of the puzzle.
	But we had a lot of help in standing on the shoulders of some giants.
	For instance, Cleve Baxter, you know this person or have you had him on the show?
	I know the name, yes.
	Cleve Baxter.
	I'm sure you know Professor Robert John and Brenda Dunn at Princeton University.
	I do.
	Okay.
	They were implemental in this, at the Princeton Anomalies Research Experiment.
	Colonel John Alexander was the one who pressed forward to attempt to do this at US Army.
	Army's Laboratory Command.
	I know John.
	And then Thelma Moss, who is deceased.
	She was a big fan of Keplerian photography.
	We know her doctorate here in Los Angeles.
	I met Thelma before she died.
	And you're telling me SciTech basically has achieved this.
	You have done it.
	You have The mechanism in place, you've done the test double blind and all the rest of that sort of thing, and you know it works?
	We know it works, but we have to put together that we want to engineer it and sell it as a product.
	Really?
	Now, I can give you, although it's proprietary, I can give you some of the secrets behind it, and I think that this is very interesting.
	I like secrets.
	And hold on, I also like cliffhangers, so stay right there.
	I do like secrets.
	And after the break, you'll hear one.
	What a cool idea, huh?
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	I'm Mark Bell.
	Telekinesis is you're not moving something at a distance.
	Right.
	It's psychokinetic.
	It's psychokinetic.
	But it's also tachyon.
	I call it a tachyon device because this communication with the switch is instantaneous.
	In other words, if and it is It's space-time irrelevant.
	It does not matter how far away you are, sort of like remote viewing.
	Remote viewing can detect information through space-time.
	This device works through space-time, too.
	If you had a receiver of 17 light-years away, and you had... It would be instant.
	There would not be 17 light-years of transmission time.
	That's correct.
	Oh, no, I'm with you here, all right.
	Let's talk about the transmitter first.
	The transmitter is a human being.
	Right.
	Maybe someday it will be a group of human beings.
	We're right now in the basic stages.
	It's a single individual.
	Right.
	Okay, the individual holds a particular emotional state.
	I'm going to have more to say about this in a moment.
	When they hold that emotional state the same way a yogi would or anybody that undergoes biofeedback training.
	They're transmitting.
	We're always transmitting.
	What we have is a receiver.
	And you have a spike.
	In other words, you have trained this individual.
	To, in effect, do the equivalent of changing his heartbeat.
	He does that, it provides a spike out of an otherwise noise.
	Not necessarily.
	The receiver, which has the switch in it, it's really a receiver.
	It's always picking up as long as it's turned on and operational.
	I understand.
	It's the brain, mind, body state of the transmitter.
	Okay?
	So, what you have to do first is to hold a specific emotional state.
	And when you do that, that is correlated with a certain algorithm at the receiving end that does something, like turn on a device or whatever.
	But there's more to this.
	It's not just the idea of emotional state.
	Some emotional states can be modulated where you can, instead of a binary operation, in other words, an off-on-off switch type of a switch, there is a particular state That can be modulated.
	When you're in this state, you can actually impress or impose thought on the signal.
	How much thought?
	We don't know yet.
	It's a second stage device and we have to research it.
	That's a next generation device.
	Alright.
	But we know what the state is.
	I see what stage you're at right now.
	Okay.
	And I see how it would work.
	Okay now, the device, here's one of the big secrets.
	Here's one of the big secrets.
	What we find is that thought at the receiving end generates a certain frequency of light immediately.
	In other words, there's something about thought, about whatever is being transmitted, and I use that term musically, that gives genesis to a certain frequency of light at the switch.
	It creates light.
	And we use the receiver to amplify that light, like a diode.
	and detect it like diodes, in fact we use diodes to detect it and then trigger a servo mechanism
	but the amazing thing is that thought is creating light.
	All right, what I don't get about the electronic aspect of it is
	how you specifically receive an individual's, any single individual's
	frequency, for lack of a better word, frequency.
	Or is that a secret that that's the part no doubt that That is a proprietary part.
	I would very much like to tell you right now, but I'm going to have to wait a while to do that.
	Symmetry is the key.
	Symmetry is the key.
	You know what?
	I think I am going to tell you, because there's another part of the receiver device that is proprietary, that's the real trick that we had to use technical remote viewing to figure out.
	So I'm going to tell you.
	The symmetry is key in all of this.
	I've talked about this before.
	Radio crystals transmit, or tuning forks, anything that's symmetric, it operates that way.
	It has frequency, yes.
	A crystal cut for 30 MHz, a transmitter and a receiver, they can transmit and receive.
	Tuning forks, fine.
	I'm going to take a piece of the transmitter's DNA and I'm going to use that as part of my
	receiver.
	So your receiver is a crystal receiver.
	You can't jam it.
	You can't receive it.
	It's one... Boy, I'll tell you again, if you're something... Now, I do exactly understand what you're talking about.
	I can't... Never make little plans.
	Quit this.
	Everybody has individual DNA, absolutely, and you would in some way be able to receive that as a DNA code, which means it's being transmitted.
	So we have to put this, we have to place this piece of DNA, and it can be a scraping from inside your mouth, any leukocytes.
	I won't get into the technicalities, but we place that in the substrate that's provided, and that's what makes it work.
	Once it goes into that substrate, it becomes a clone of the transmitter.
	So your receiver really is a Combination machine and biological samples.
	It's a biological switch and an amplifier.
	But what the amplifier is doing is amplifying light.
	There's no electronic transmission.
	We do not even know if this is instantaneous.
	In terms of quantum theory, we have an idea of how it might be working.
	But, uh, that's all.
	We can engineer it, but we don't have, we don't have the theory behind it.
	Okay.
	Just like, just like technical remote viewing.
	All right.
	Well, here's an obvious question.
	But, but I have one more comment to make.
	All right.
	That's very interesting.
	Yes, go ahead.
	The most light is created at the receiving end of this particular frequency.
	Yes.
	When one is in a state of love.
	No, why doesn't that surprise me?
	In other words, the most powerful transmitters are the ones that can achieve this state, and there's no self-deception.
	It has to be real.
	and for instance, as a companion, in this case, in this case, in very certain psychological cases,
	couples that are in love have a very strong effect on the materials when they work together.
	So...
	Well, these are good news for the agents in the field.
	I like that. A military tool. I mean, what can they say?
	I think you think that with the real iron, you will have powerful innovations that will help to hold it back.
	You know, I've got some of the use.
	I understand clearly what the military applications for this are,
	and I suspect the military is going to understand very clearly what the applications for them are in the CIA
	and all the spooky agencies, but...
	What is private sector side tech going to do with it?
	I think that we'll market it the same way we did technical remote viewing.
	It's just like a laser.
	You use a laser for heart surgery, you use a laser for cutting materials, or you can laser the shoot down cell.
	Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is, what's the application other than Spookville?
	It is Well, we're not sure yet, Art.
	We're just not sure.
	Okay, well, so you may end up... You mean in terms of the grand community?
	Yeah.
	Well, I fully understand.
	How would your application be?
	CIA's application for it, or NSA?
	Oh, there's an infinite number of applications.
	For instance, you could turn on your Fight Five without words, without physical action, But again, where is the private sector application?
	by just training themselves to go into a particular brain mind state.
	And there's no hookups, there's no wires, there's no phone.
	But again, where is the private sector application?
	You could set off a bomb from the other side of the world just by thinking about it.
	You could do that with a radio wave too, aren't there?
	Not reliably.
	Sure you can.
	We used to do it all the time.
	Well, I know, but listen.
	For example, we had a blast from the sun.
	Your territory, by the way.
	The other day that utterly shut down every single shortwave frequency in the spectrum.
	I mean, it shut it down cold.
	Nobody could have transmitted the radio frequency other than through satellite.
	That would have set off a bomb.
	But with your application, you could do it?
	Well, better yet, and more practically, you could do that, but you could also maintain communications.
	There isn't a lot of electronics in the receiver, so... I'm actually a bit confused in terms of what you're doing.
	Sure.
	There's a lot of applications here, but I think primarily just the idea that you have to... Now, listen up.
	Technical remote viewing.
	Who are my customers right now?
	They're not held up.
	Oh, no, no.
	There's a lot of private sector applications.
	Now listen Mark, technical remote viewing, who are my customers right now?
	They're not my old buddies.
	Oh no, they're not.
	And there's a lot of private sector applications, no question about it, for that.
	And for a lot of websites, for everything, I think there's a lot of private sector applications.
	That's why it's worked so well. I understand that.
	But, this switch?
	It's your own fault, isn't it, that it's going to be a mess, isn't it?
	Uh-huh.
	Uh, well, that's amazing.
	That's amazing.
	You're a woman.
	From remote viewing.
	It's an obvious extension of remote viewing.
	An obvious extension.
	It's our sister science, and we felt remiss in not investigating our sister science.
	It's the active side of the psi phenomena.
	Psi phenomena can be split generally down the middle.
	A passive side, although that, in terms of quantum theory, that's not exactly true anymore, that's remote viewing.
	Being able to discern things and targets at a distance, and that's passive.
	If you've really done this, they're going to be knocking on your door.
	If they haven't already.
	Well, it's a kinder and gentler force out there, all right?
	And it's a different world.
	These are the 90s.
	It's been a while since a proprietary civilian discovery Has been rolled up by a government or for agencies of the government.
	It's been quite a while, like 30 years.
	Oh, I'm not sure I believe that.
	If there is a major discovery made that has national security implications And there have been such, uh, discoveries, I'm certain, in the last 30 years.
	The guys in the suits walk in.
	I mean, they walk in for a lot less.
	I'm telling you, Art, it hasn't happened... In 30 years, huh?
	...since the McCarthy era.
	Well then we must be awfully smart before we find our enemies.
	That's what I'd have to say about that.
	We must be awfully far behind them.
	I am stately aware of what's out there on the streets.
	Scalar wave technology, harm anonymous.
	In terms of... Who was responsible to report back...
	The highest levels of the Department of Defense on what's really out there.
	You know, I'm in a position to know what's real and what's not.
	But let's say the Russians are changing their weather.
	They're changing their... technology.
	Aren't that an act of war?
	Um, yeah, oh yeah.
	Um, I agree with you.
	But, um, if they're doing all of this and we're not, uh, then, you know, We're in a lot of trouble.
	Well, we've got some fancy things out there, but you have to remember that dialectic materialism, as practiced by the former Soviet Union for many years, and I think I've mentioned this before on the show, that's a different mindset, and a very different paradigm like that produces different science, and different science Results in different technologies.
	That's why, when the former Soviet Union said to General Iverson, in charge of this country's Star Wars program, if you field this, we will counter it.
	We stopped our noses occupations, thinking that they couldn't.
	Because their space program was a generation behind ours.
	And yet, in the end, they were able to counter it using something that was so diabolically different and yet conventional, I can't talk about it, but they were able to counter that program in a way that we had never conceived because their thinking was different.
	In the West, we use non-destructive testing to look inside of, let's say, an automobile engine to look at the flaws and the heat spots, those kinds of things.
	Yes.
	The Russians have a scientific experience, but it's not quite the same as non-destructive testing.
	It uses different ways of ascertaining what is going on in material science inside of something.
	And it has spawned very different technologies simply because they look at the world differently.
	Well, I sure have no argument with that.
	The Russians do look at the world differently.
	But those things are changing, aren't they?
	Everything's crossed levels now.
	The Soviet corrosion status is...
	...the Soviet Union was the first nation to have a corrosion status.
	The American Union was the first nation to have a corrosion status.
	The American Union was the first nation to have a corrosion status.
	The Soviet Union was the first nation to have a corrosion status.
	...
	The Soviet notifications were better than ours.
	And then they produced algorithms that were elegant.
	And when those algorithms were programmed into computer chips that were two generations behind ours,
	they worked because what we did, our PhDs threw sloppy algorithms into computers in the warheads of our intercept
	missiles, expecting our quantum computers to crunch away numbers.
	And that crunching time, or the sloppy algorithms, equaled the crunching time of two generations behind us.
	That's what it is.
	It's a sloppy algorithm.
	You wouldn't consider the Russians now to be benign, would you, Ed?
	Absolutely not.
	No, I wouldn't either.
	All right, hold it right there.
	Syntex Ed Daves is my guest, and I can tell you right now it's going to be quite a night.
	When we come back, we're going to talk a little bit about Amelia Earhart.
	and what Ed Names has uncovered with regard to Amelia Earhart's disappearance.
	Perhaps she now is exclusive to this program that has not been told anyone else has come alive.
	So, I'm Bill Coats.
	The historical rifts of the San Joaquin Valley run deep into our past.
	From the 49ers who followed their fortunes into the mother road, to the loggers who harvested the timber from the mighty Sierra Nevada, to the settlers who brought water, railroads, and cities to the valley.
	What in particular made you choose the Amelia Earhart project?
	We were commissioned by the television station to find the wreckage so that the same team
	that found Titanic could locate the wreckage.
	So we have some experience doing this.
	What in particular made you choose the Amelia Earhart Project?
	I think because of its high visibility, which is good marketing for SciTech, and the fact
	that so many people have tried to find the wreckage and failed, even using high technology
	methods.
	I want to show individuals who are interested in remote viewing what human potential can do when it's perfected in terms of technical remote viewing.
	This is a lot of work, Art.
	There are television stations that wanted this as an exclusive but we decided to give it to the Art Bell listeners.
	Before I do this though, I'd like for you to give the green light to our ace webmaster, Patrick Duda.
	We're standing by to hit the switch on all the map locations.
	This is the first time we've ever, on our internet, on our website.
	You mean you're going to put up a map of where the wreckage is?
	We're going to put up maps of the entire area and where we are searching right now, right down to within a quarter mile.
	This is phase one of our project, was to locate the wreckage.
	Now we're going out to retrieve it.
	So if you give Patrick the green light, he'll hit the switch with all the maps, and your internet-capable listeners will have those maps at their fingertips.
	They can go through your website to hit mine.
	Of course.
	Are you ready out there, folks?
	www.artbell.com.
	Scroll down until you see Ed Dame's name under Scheduled Guests, and that's what you're going to be wanting to click on.
	Patrick's waiting for your command, Art.
	Hey, Patrick, do it!
	Okay, and that'll be up in a couple of minutes.
	I've got to get up there myself.
	Well, for those of you who are not on the Internet, let me walk you through this.
	If you think of a globe, the planet Earth, or you have a map of the world, put your finger or your finger in your mind's eye on the state of Hawaii.
	Run your finger down to the equator and turn left.
	Until you get almost to the equinox, the international dateline.
	Just to the right of your finger is an island called Howlin' Island.
	That was Amelia Earhart's destination on July 2nd, 1937.
	If you run your finger along the equator another hand's width or so, depending on the scale of your map or globe, you'll come to New Guinea.
	So, there was a lot of technical remote doing work that we had to do to ascertain this, and we wanted to pinpoint her records.
	she began her flight.
	There was a lot of technical remote doing work that we had to do to ascertain this.
	We wanted to pinpoint her wreckage.
	We had to systematically attack this problem and we had all the cross checks and blind
	controls that we normally do in any of our work.
	We were looking for Amelia Earhart's wreckage at the present location.
	That was one target.
	We were looking at the wreckage itself.
	We had to describe the wreckage to see what we had.
	For instance, we don't automatically assume that there would be any wreckage left.
	But in this case, we found two large pieces, what appear to be a wing and an engine, and they are both underwater.
	I'm on your site now.
	I'm clicking on the square on the globe to zoom in on the exact location.
	My six second delay helped me get there just about six seconds ahead of everybody else.
	So if it'll ever load here, I'll get it.
	Your page is getting suddenly very busy.
	You're in Micronesia, and you're in the country of Kiribati.
	That's spelled K-I-R-B-A-T-I, but pronounced Kiribati.
	You're in the Gilbert Islands.
	The Gilbert Islands.
	All right, I'm trying to... Tumgaru is the name of that part of Kiribati, and the former name was the Gilberts.
	The Kiribati has three island groups.
	It's a country.
	At no point in the country is the elevation more than about two meters above ground, above the ocean level.
	So if the seas ever rise, that entire country will be gone.
	That's a real fear, by the way, there.
	Can you help me with a reference here?
	Yes, I can.
	In other words, these islands, you know, they're in the middle of nowhere, virtually.
	That's right.
	They're right at the cross, right where the international date line crosses the equator.
	I see that.
	Reference me from a point I would know.
	An island or a Hawaii or eight miles from Hawaii and direction.
	You're about 2,800 miles to the southwest of Hawaii.
	That is in the middle of nowhere.
	Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere.
	And this is where she came down?
	I'm going to talk about exactly where she came down in a moment.
	It is just south of Tarawa, where the United States Marine Corps fought their fiercest battle in World War II.
	Okay?
	Yes.
	Okay, we had to look, again, we had to describe the wreckage located.
	We had to look for Amelia Earhart's remains.
	Okay?
	We wanted to find the present location of the remains.
	Right.
	We had to remote view Amelia Earhart two hours after the crash event because we wanted to see if she got out of the aircraft.
	She did not.
	She did not.
	And now you're saying she landed not on one of these islands, but Uh, in the water?
	Alright.
	I'll get into that in a moment.
	I'll just tell you, I want to cover all the work that we had to do to bring this together.
	We had to also look for Fred Noonan, her navigator's remains.
	We wanted to see if he made it out alive and his remains were somewhere else.
	The present location of his remains.
	We had to look at the crash site overview because we're in a very homogeneous area of
	You've got about a zillion atolls and islands that look the same.
	Now think about what a remote viewing task that is, even though you can describe the wreckage site.
	You have to match it up with the real physical world.
	That's a trick.
	How do you do that?
	We use very accurate sketches, detailed sketches, from an overhead perspective.
	We use remote viewing to sketch an atoll or an island, and then we go to the maps and
	find...
	And try to match it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Then we go back to our remote viewing and we look at the crash site, the key terrain features, so that we can pick out one atoll or island from another.
	Then we remote view the place and we look at the key map features, present day maps.
	We match the remote viewing data up with the map features.
	Now we have two pieces of wreckage, a wing and an engine.
	We have to find out how far away they are from the shore.
	So we're going to remote view the nearest shore features from each one of those pieces.
	We want to determine the distance from the shore, and because we're in water, we want to determine the depth in water.
	Because phase two, We have to decide whether to take a total magnetometer along with us that detects big pieces of metal at depth, or whether or not we can spot the wreckage pieces visually at the moment in time.
	Yeah, makes sense.
	Sure.
	Okay?
	Sure.
	So, specifically, we're in Micronesia.
	We're in the country of Karabars.
	We're in the Gilbert Islands.
	Okay?
	Karabars.
	Just south of Tarawa.
	We're in a small island called Curia, K-U-R-I-A.
	All this is on our website.
	On the west side of the island, Curia, you'll see our search area.
	We've got two crosses where the major pieces of wreckage are, a wing and an engine, not far offshore.
	What happened was, I'm not going to speculate right now upon why she did not continue to Howland Island, but we think they were low on fuel, most probably low on fuel.
	She came in for a water landing just off the beach.
	So from the south end, on the west side of the small island, it was a long stretch of white beach with a lot of reefs off the coast.
	She came in for a water landing, not too far offshore, right?
	Right, so that they would be able to make it to shore with their gear and a radio, or they'd be able to have the radio intact in the aircraft before it went down.
	But, what happened was, it appears that the right wing struck the water and the plane cartwheeled over the reefs, breaking up in the process.
	Both Noonan Well, Fred Noonan, the navigator, and Amelia Earhart died of their injuries in that crash.
	They did not make it to shore and they went down with the wreckage.
	How deep is the water there?
	Not deep.
	Ocean currents and hurricane action over the years, even tsunamis, could theoretically have pushed the wreckage over the reef into the deep.
	We could still have gotten it, by the way.
	We could still go retrieve it, it'd just be more expensive.
	But in this case, only the lighter pieces of the aircraft having broken up over the years, and I don't know where the lighter pieces are right now, but we do know that the heavy engine, there were two engines on her Lockheed Electra 10E that was designed for her.
	There's a picture on our website, courtesy of Lockheed, with her sitting on the exact
	aircraft that crashed.
	That's there too.
	Those engines weigh about 1,100 pounds each.
	There's two of them.
	And we've got one.
	We've got the pinpoint location of one and a wing.
	The rest of the aircraft is probably scattered about the reefs, and we're not going after
	those pieces.
	We're only going after the two major pieces.
	If I were to guess, I'd say it looks a little over halfway from Hawaii toward Papua New Guinea.
	That's correct.
	It's about halfway, you know, just about halfway to New Guinea, where she took off.
	All right, now, you have now pinpointed this, and you've told us What are your intentions?
	Are you going to go there and prove this?
	That's correct.
	We have to have ground truth now.
	So phase two of the operation is already in the process of taking off.
	We've got the individuals identified who will go, and equipment, and those points of contact on the ground, those kinds of things.
	That's not an easy place to get to, by the way.
	I can see that.
	When will this expedition take place?
	Can you tell us?
	Three months from now.
	Three months.
	We don't want it to be an expedition.
	Some of the expeditions have failed in the past.
	They operate off of boats.
	They're very comfortable.
	They go back and they dine and sleep in comfortable quarters.
	We don't have that kind of money, so it's not an expedition.
	It's a trip.
	And we're going to operate from shore, which is a little tricky, but we can do it.
	And a lot of diving is required.
	We've got good divers.
	We've got wreck divers.
	I'm a free diver.
	I've got a lot of diving experience.
	And we've got good salvage people.
	There's sharks out there, right?
	There are reef sharks, yes.
	I've got a good shark, Billy.
	I know how to take care of sharks.
	So, you know, we'll watch our backs.
	Wow.
	What a project.
	Well, that's called walking the walk, for sure.
	It's a good one.
	We teach people how to do what we do.
	You have to walk the talk.
	These are the kind of showpiece projects that are required to do that.
	It also doesn't end run around the scientific community who says this is impossible.
	Well, that's absolutely true.
	Obviously, if you come back with wreckage, hold on Ed.
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	free. If Ed comes back with wreckage from Amelia Earhart's airplane, I think a lot of
	argument will stop. And so I see why he's doing it.
	It's, uh, yeah, it's on his website.
	I mean the precise location.
	Uh, it's very well laid out.
	It was just released on his website.
	If you want to get there, get there through mine, www.artbell.com.
	Scroll down to the scheduled guests, click on Ed Dames' name, and over you go.
	Good, obviously it might be a little bit busy right now.
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	All right, if you want to know exactly where Amelia Earhart went down and stuff and that stuff, right now, get to my site.
	And you know, it's funny.
	I just talked to Keith and I was complaining a little earlier that websites ought to have numbers.
	They shouldn't have all these WWWs, FOBIs, forwards, reverses.
	He said, well, they do have numbers.
	I said, huh?
	He said, yeah.
	You want the number for your site?
	So, here's the deal.
	No www's.
	Nothing.
	Just go onto your browser and enter the following numbers and see if it takes you to my site.
	Are you ready?
	206.132.153.3232 that is.
	Do that to you one more time.
	That's 206.132.153.32.
	And that should take you directly to my website.
	that is. I'll do that to you one more time. That's 206.132.153.32.
	And that should take you directly to my website. Now, I said, well, how about if
	I want to go to a specific page on my website?
	And Keith said, well then you've got to have a forward slash or a tilde or something.
	In other words, why not add another number or two to get to a specific page since you've already got that many numbers?
	Anyway, that's pretty cool.
	I had no idea you could do that.
	You can do that if you enter those numbers as I instructed.
	Keith tells me You will indeed go to my website with all the depreciation.
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	This may seem like an embarrassing subject, but it's really a matter of... Press your back on the air again.
	Okay.
	I bet your sight is crawlin'.
	Let's try to slow it down a little bit.
	We've got one of those power pack servers.
	Uh-huh.
	Well, we'll see.
	We'll see how you do.
	All right.
	So, in three months, we will know the answer.
	Either that or I'll be shark bait.
	Shark bait?
	Yeah.
	Well, I hope you're not shark bait.
	There really are a lot of sharks out there.
	I know.
	I'm faintly aware of that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, thank you for announcing all of that on this program.
	There's going to be a lot of people going up there.
	Yeah, there will be.
	Man, we've got an awful lot of territory we're going to have to cover, or they're going to string me up when I get back from Africa.
	The last time you were on the program, we had been having a big go-round about the third secret of Fatima, of course.
	Father Malachi Martin knows what it is.
	He has sort of hinted around a little bit about the Third Secret.
	We've had people send us versions of it that we've posted on the website.
	And out of the blue, the lightbulb went on, the Ed Dames lightbulb, and you said, what a great project that would be!
	How about if we take it on in remote view?
	The Third Secret of Saddam.
	So terrible, says Malachi Martin.
	That if you, he said, if you imagine the worst it could be, it's worse than that.
	That's what Father Malachi Martin has said.
	And so you took this project on.
	Actually, there was a caller, Art.
	There was a caller who subsequently sent me a letter identifying himself.
	And the caller called in and asked if we had looked at this.
	And that is when I responded with... What a great idea.
	Well, this one's really killing me.
	This is a heavy duty thing and it was very difficult.
	It took us a lot to pull together and this project has changed my perspective.
	It has changed my plans for my company for the future.
	You're kidding.
	No, it's changed a lot of things.
	And it has generated a project that I'm going to talk about that I will be dedicating to Father Malachi Martin in honor of a life of service against battling forces of darkness.
	In fact, it has generated a project that's the most important thing that SciTech could ever do or anybody trained in technical remote viewing could ever do.
	Okay.
	Art, can I get an admin thing out of the way here?
	And that is about the training tapes before we get into this.
	Of course.
	If you would like to learn how to remote view, SciTech has videotapes that take you step-by-step right through it.
	And you can get those in the following way.
	Ed, describe them any way you want.
	Okay, these were actually edited and directed by an Oscar nominee, William Gusecki, and that, along with The Impossible Challenge, which is the story of SciTech, recently completed, are available at our website, or on our 24-hour order line, which is 1-888- 8-7-8-0-3-3-3.
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	I would be really hesitant if I could remote view to take on a project that has been a
	lot of work.
	I mean, I've been doing a lot of work with the team.
	I've been doing a lot of work with the team.
	I mean, he doesn't take this lightly at all.
	I did not know that he said that, Art.
	He said that.
	He said that.
	I can't give you the details.
	He is sworn to secrecy.
	But he did say, if you can imagine the worst, the worst you can imagine in your mind, the worst you can conjure in your mind, it's worse than that.
	I'm not sworn to secrecy.
	Yeah, I understand.
	It was an honor to have gone toe-to-toe with Malachi Martin on your show.
	That was a remarkable program, wasn't it?
	Yes, it was quite an honor.
	I really expected, by the way, for everything to go up like a Roman candle, and it didn't happen.
	You all communicated.
	It was amazing.
	I'm sure that he and we will be communicating again after this project.
	Let's see, let me start in on this.
	Essentially, the revelation at Fatima, beginning in 1917, was three parts.
	Two parts of which the Catholic Church made public eventually.
	The third part, also called the Third Secret of Fatima, they did not.
	Even though the apparition, which was judged to be a miracle by the Catholic Church, even though the apparition that generated the original information requested through one of the girls, I can't remember the name, requested that this third part be made public no later than 1960.
	And it was not by the Catholic Church.
	According to Fr.
	Martin, the popes who have been in place have read it, and individually have decided not to release it, going against the advice from the apparition itself, for whatever reason.
	I presume you know why.
	Well, I do now.
	At first I thought it was rather arrogant.
	And that, you know, why would that information be withheld?
	I'm sure it generated a great deal of anger and ostracism on the part of many of the faithful.
	Why should they keep information from the public?
	Yes, why?
	Which was one of the reasons I accepted the task, why I chose this task.
	Why would they hold back God's word as if the church thought it knew best?
	Didn't you approach this with some trepidation, though?
	You know, one of those things of, do I really want to know this?
	No, I didn't.
	I approached it with the same verve and enthusiasm as I did with most projects.
	However, I've changed my tune now that we I've completed it.
	In fact, it's changed my life permanently.
	The third part of the Revelation, lowercase r, the Fatima Revelation, is an announcement.
	It's an announcement that heralds events described in the Revelation with a capital R. That's why the Catholic Church deemed it That's why the Catholic Church did not feel that it was necessary to comment on it, because it would only have been saying what had already been said by a higher authority.
	That is, it would only have been a commentary on the Word of God.
	And I'm going to get real specific here, okay?
	But you're saying the third secret is revelations.
	I'm saying that the third secret It is indeed what is the end time prophecies themselves.
	The beginning of the end time prophecies.
	Specifically, the heralding of events connected with the opening of the sixth seal.
	And those are imminent.
	Imminent?
	Like next month.
	That's my analytical column.
	In other words, the scroll You know, in Daniel chapter 10, 11, Gabriel, the angel Gabriel, shows Daniel the prophecies that concern the last generation.
	These are the end-time prophecies.
	Yes.
	Contained in a sealed scroll of revelations.
	Yes.
	That scroll has been unsealed.
	And that third part of Fatima essentially says that the scroll has been unsealed and the next up is the sixth seal.
	Ironically, this show, in October 1998, It's probably a month before the actual events that are connected with that sixth seal.
	Very, very serious earthquakes and volcanism, war, and a celestial display of meteors falling from the sky.
	I'm not going to sit here and educate the people who know more than I do about Revelation.
	I'm going to tell you what I, as a professional remote viewer, downloaded from this.
	Essentially, it is specifically.
	I mean, I was a simple Christian until now.
	I did not really take the Bible seriously, but I do now.
	In fact, I take it very seriously.
	It appears to be dead on, specifically.
	Father Martin has always said, there will be an unquestionable sign from the sky.
	That's something the Father has said.
	I am telling you, that specific revelation, that part of the revelation, was specifically the opening of the sixth seal.
	And that is why the Church, I'm sure, decided not to say anything.
	Because if you read Revelations and what that means, why say it again?
	It doesn't need to be talked about anymore.
	If it happens, it happens.
	I don't know what else to say about that.
	We're talking about war, we're talking about tremendous earthquakes and volcanism, and we're talking about the events being accompanied by a lot of meteors falling from the sky.
	Well, we all know the Leonid Show is coming up next month in November.
	That this is imminent.
	That the sixth seal events are imminent.
	It is that particular timing that causes you to say next month?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Do you allow for the possibility that you could be off by a year?
	In other words, astronomers right now are equally divided about whether we are going to have this large event I'm aware of that.
	I allow for that possibility, yes.
	But my gut feeling is that it begins now.
	Now, what has come out of this for me is some very serious life changes.
	And something that I've decided to do, a project that is the most important project that any remote viewer, anyone who learns technical remote viewing or SciTech, can do, in my mind.
	And this is the project that I dedicate to Father Malachi Martin.
	And that is this.
	If you look forward in time, the way that, along the time table, the Revelations time table, in the Bible, The most important thing that technical remote viewing can do for generations to come is to identify what the mark of the beast is and who the beast is.
	Oh, yes.
	Because if we lose our lives in the travails ahead, that's one thing.
	But if we accept that particular mark... Then we lose our souls.
	We lose our souls.
	And that is why it's imperative for us right now to identify, to begin to identify exactly, in terms that we can understand today, at the end of the 20th century, what that mark is, and who the beast is, specifically.
	Do you know?
	No, I do not.
	That's the project that we will begin immediately.
	That is the new project, and that is the one I'm dedicating to Malachi Martin.
	Is the third secret itself specific beyond... so specific that it would have created a worldwide panic?
	In other words, it is revelations, but as you read revelations in the Bible, it's specific and at the same time rather non-specific.
	Is the third secret very specific?
	What reason would there be, other than duplication, not to release it?
	I think for the reason you just mentioned, there was a worldwide panic.
	I think that that was a wrong decision.
	I mean, this is my own, this is Ed Dane speaking.
	I think that that may have been a mistake on the part of the Catholic Church.
	To hold it back?
	To hold it back, yes.
	And I'll tell you why.
	Knowing this now, albeit through technical remote viewing, has changed me.
	It's redirected and reordered my priorities in life, and in a way that I think is very important.
	But I think that that knowledge would have done the same thing to many believers, at
	least Christians, had it been promulgated when the apparition said, not later than 1960,
	when the apparition said that it should be promulgated.
	Well, that's the exact argument that I made to Father Malachi Martin, actually.
	Thank you.
	And Father Martin, by the way, agrees with you that it should have been released, and that it should be released, and yet he is bound, sacred oath, he is bound not to tell what it is.
	Then I hope he's listening.
	So my advice is if you're a listening audience, if you don't have a God to pray to, you better go out and get one.
	Make sure it's the right one.
	Get your internal house in order.
	You need some role models to look at for minds and lives and the actions of people that are good role models.
	Jesus Christ.
	Mother Teresa or even Jimmy Carter will do.
	The sixth seal is open?
	It is not.
	I don't think it's open right now.
	I think it is imminent.
	And I mean in a month.
	That's my call, analytically.
	Okay, then, you can tell I have no great background in organized religion, but with the opening of the sixth seal, That portion of Revelations begins to unfold immediately.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	And that is the opening of the sixth seal that is connected with the third part of the Fatima Revelation, also called the third secret of Fatima.
	That's what's connected with that.
	That's what that secret was.
	That is what the Catholic Church held back.
	Could SciTech locate the sixth seal?
	It is not a thing, Art.
	It's not a thing.
	It's an idea.
	The seal itself is a set of circumstances and consequences.
	It's not a thing.
	All right.
	Like the Ark of the Covenant or the Holy Grail.
	I've got you, yes.
	It's esoteric.
	It's supernatural, what we call supernatural.
	It's natural if your horizons are wider, but it's supernatural in terms of us menial human beings.
	For what period of time, can you tell us, will the world suffer the consequences of the sixth seal opening?
	I don't know, but I think that's in Revelations.
	In fact, all the rest of the travails that we're about to undergo are in the Revelations.
	That's why I have a new respect for the Bible.
	In fact, a respect I never had before, because it appears to be exact.
	It appears to be dead-on biblical prophecy.
	Well, there's a lot of people out there, me included, who know a knowing.
	That... that something's coming.
	As likely this as anything else.
	Well, I warned you, and I will now warn you again.
	Those things you're going to hear tonight may well be disturbing.
	If you are disturbed by them, turn your radio off.
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	You're listening to a rebroadcast of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
	This is a broadcast from the Coast to Coast AM.
	Anyway, on the eve of our trip to South Africa in the morning, our house sitters get here and we make our way toward the airplanes.
	Somebody sends me the following.
	Dateline Johannesburg.
	From Reuters.
	A South African man killed an enraged leopard using only an old screwdriver.
	After the animal attacked villagers near the country's massive Kruger National Park.
	Oh great!
	A police spokesman said, I've never heard of an incident like it in my life.
	The man, 49 years of age, was driving an open pickup truck loaded with eight passengers when the leopard sprang from the bush.
	The man, Kenos McKunsey, I can't pronounce that correctly, said, quote, I almost had a heart attack.
	The bloody animal leapt onto my wind field as I came to a halt next to the road.
	It then jumped onto the backs of the pickup truck right in the middle of my passengers.
	He said the leopard immediately seized one of the passengers, Lawrence, and I can't pronounce his last name, and he had to move fast.
	I knew, he said, I had to act quickly or Lawrence was dead.
	I couldn't find any weapon except the screwdriver, so I used it to stab the leopard from behind.
	I had to stab it repeatedly in the neck and ribs before it finally collapsed and died.
	Whoever sent this, too bad there's not a fact setter here so I can thank you.
	I'll tell ya.
	We'll be right back with Ed Dames.
	I have some good news and bad news from my friends at Golden Eagle.
	Alright, a reading from the Associated Press.
	September 30th.
	An immense wave of radiation from a bizarre star smashed into the upper atmosphere of Earth last month with enough energy to power civilization for a billion billion years, researchers report.
	Astronomers said at a news conference Tuesday, the eruption was the most powerful burst of X-rays and gamma rays from beyond the sun ...ever recorded and caused at least two satellites to shut down briefly.
	On the Earth's surface, however, there is almost no effect from the invisible radiation.
	They said energy equal only to a typical single dental x-ray could have penetrated the atmosphere.
	We have been monitoring things like this, said Kevin Hurley, a research physicist at the University of California, Berkeley.
	For 30 years.
	And we've never seen anything like it.
	The burst of gamma and X-ray radiation struck the Earth over the Pacific Ocean at night on August 27th
	and was so powerful that it temporarily ionized the upper atmosphere just as the sun would in the daytime.
	Seven scientific satellites, five orbiting the Earth, one approaching an asteroid far beyond and one near the orbit
	of Jupiter All of them detected the massive eruption and it goes on from there.
	Now, how does this connect to Ed Bames?
	You may recall Ed Bames said there's going to be trouble from our sun.
	That there will be, in effect, a shot over the bow, and then a kill shot.
	Was this the shot over the bow?
	Let me read to you.
	SciTech, of course, had called it the discontinuity, something they couldn't quite read, in events.
	And then Ed came on, a special night, and told us about the sun, and what was going to happen.
	And if you pull the transcript from that program, it will read, Bell, me, talking to Ed, when did you nail it down?
	Ed, I think about 11 months ago, we finally pulled it all together by looking at the source of this event.
	By concentrating on only the source, rather than the effects.
	At first, we thought we were dealing with a neutron star burst, Somewhere in another part of the galaxy.
	Then with more work, we realized it was our own star, the Sun.
	Ed, did we just have the precursor events?
	I believe that was it, Art.
	It was stellar in nature, it was not our Sun.
	We have a lot of information about the kill shot we had less on the
	precursor. You said that right on.
	I thought that the precursor would the effects would be stronger and in fact I thought the
	precursor was uh was our own son but uh I believe it was this and not.
	Oh, well, the effects were strong enough, as I just read.
	We're pretty much convinced this was a precursor, and we predict that, as I've said in the past on your shows, we think all bets are off to 99.
	But we think that around Easter, around April of 99, is the event from our own sun.
	Somewhere around in there.
	Those are very rough.
	That's a very rough window, but nevertheless, the event itself is on the way.
	Let me tell you something, Alex.
	It goes hand in hand with this, now that I think about it, with the sixth seal.
	Because the sixth, it talks about the sun turning.
	Sure.
	The sun and the moon turning red or something like that?
	Let me tell you a very interesting brief story.
	This coming Dreamland Sunday, Linda Moulton Howe interviews, I think, an astronomer, a scientist, about this burst of radiation.
	And Linda was saying, my God, at 22 billion light years out, for this kind of energy to reach the Earth in this kind of a wave, a blast, Could that not have been what killed the dinosaurs?
	Or an event like it?
	And the scientist said, well, yes, it could have been.
	Then Linda said, well, are there other stars like this that could be close?
	To which he replied, yes.
	And she asked, well, what would occur if it was closer?
	And the scientist's answer was an extinction-level event or A semi-extinction-level event.
	A minor extinction-level event.
	And I said a what?
	A minor extinction-level event.
	And that interview can be heard Sunday on Dreamland, but there you are.
	I mean, there is something new, pun intended, under the sun, unfortunately.
	And so you're pretty sure this was what you saw?
	Yes.
	This appears to be it.
	But the kill shot...
	And subsequent events lead us to believe, based upon our technical remote viewing data, that the Earth is going back to primordial conditions.
	Now, I don't know how long that will take, but that is what we've seen in the end.
	It looks just like the textbook example of Earth in the beginning, when life was brewing in this soup, with the lightning flashing and the Earth covered by water.
	So really, what we're saying here is, That the scientists, the remote viewers, and the Bible scholars are all on the same page, and the page is about to turn.
	We're tracking a lot.
	It's starting to come together.
	There are many roads that lead to Rome, and Rome appears to be a fairly... I don't want to say grim, because I don't know if this is just a natural order of events in the universe or not.
	I assume that it is.
	I don't know what to say about that, Art.
	But when you heard this story, you must have sat straight up and you must have said, oh my God, this was it.
	Well, you remember the old cartoons that we grew up with, with the bearded robed guy walking around the streets of New York City with the sign, the end is near?
	That's right, sure.
	He just walked out of the cartoon into the reality, into the real world.
	Of course, many people would call your program not the real world.
	I know, I know.
	I don't care about them.
	I know, I know.
	I get that all the time.
	Who cares?
	I know, I know, I know, I get that all the time, who cares?
	So, if that was the precursor then you're suggesting that sometime in 1999, I'm pressing
	for a timeline here, the kill shot will occur.
	I'm suggesting that that is the kill shot and the kill shot is probably what in revelation
	is referred to as one third of the earth.
	Alright, next item.
	We're just going to cover a lot of bases here.
	A million people have asked me to ask you about the plant pathogen.
	I mean, here I go, winging my way toward Africa, which is where the plant pathogen You suggested would land, or has landed, and they would like an update on that.
	What can you tell us, if anything?
	Well, I won't go into the background right now.
	It's associated with this device that enters the Earth's atmosphere.
	We lost track of the device.
	We lost train of custody with this particular cylinder.
	The next time we pick it up in technical remote viewing is particulate matter disseminated in the atmosphere over the continent of Africa.
	When we research this particulate matter, we find that it is what I would call a fungal accelerator.
	That this is some type of a catalyst.
	I don't know how broad spectrum it is within that class of organism.
	Plants.
	But it appears to accelerate the growth of fungi.
	Many different kinds of fungi.
	And that was in the atmosphere over Africa.
	That notwithstanding, you are already aware of that you're going to tour Kruger National Park.
	You'll probably have some of the last pictures of healthy animals because virtually all the lions in the park are dying of tuberculosis.
	That I know.
	That they have contracted from other animals that have tuberculosis.
	I know.
	The entire continent of Africa.
	Take some pictures of the people too because they're facing zero population growth.
	That also is in the news.
	Yes, that is.
	But this fungi, the idea of, in terms of vital pathology, this is not in the news.
	It's as if the earth were striking back and needed a little assistance from an outside agency and it came in the form of this booster shot that kills not mammalian life, But the food that we eat, because if you look at the world's food crops, they're in trouble right now from fungus.
	It is true.
	Delight.
	Yeah, it is true.
	I've been reading the stories.
	It's just that I guess people hear this and to some degree a lot of them cannot handle the information and so they get angry.
	You should see my hate mail.
	Really?
	You get a lot of good hate mail?
	We'll sit down one day and we'll see who's stack is higher.
	I've got lots of names like that.
	You can trade those too.
	Dr. Doom.
	I was called Dr. Doom at the White House.
	In a former life.
	Yeah, a former life.
	I guess it is like a former life now, isn't it?
	It's a strange world we live in, Ed.
	You know, remote viewing, the technical remote viewing was designed to be an intelligence collection tool.
	That's what we used it for.
	It's Genesis.
	That's how it evolved.
	Right now you can see what we're doing with Amelia Earhart.
	And I think that The end game has changed for me and for Technical Remote Viewing.
	In what way?
	In the way that I think that the most important thing that we could do now for mankind, present day and for the future, is that project that I'm dedicating to Father Malachi Martin.
	And that is to identify the specific nature of what is called the mark of the beast in the Bible, as well as what is called the beast.
	Now that's a long way from looking inside of nuclear weapons designs.
	Yes, it sure is.
	But you know, Stan Dale, who's a Christian, was on the other night.
	And John David Morton is a prophet.
	This fellow's had an unreasonable amount of extremely accurate hits.
	And Stan said, in essence, and I don't want to get in trouble with Stan here again, but that there would be somebody Who would come along and foretell or even announce the identity of the Antichrist.
	Stan, said that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I think the Bible suggests that will be so.
	And that that person will be some sort of false prophet.
	You know, I'm no biblical scholar.
	I just listen to people on both sides of all this.
	And so if you were to actually name You would do that?
	If you determined who it was, you would name the Antichrist?
	Yes.
	No, wait now.
	The Antichrist, we've already researched.
	When we target that in the collective unconscious, which is the arena, we call it the matrix, is our technical term in TRV.
	That's the arena in which we work.
	The idea of the Antichrist is a field effect, and it is found in all mankind.
	It is found in the hearts of all men.
	It's a field.
	Okay?
	The idea of the beast is something else that we have not researched.
	We have looked at the idea of 666 as an idea.
	That we do know and we're confident of equates to money.
	Physical money.
	Now some people have said that's the mark of the beast.
	It is not.
	666 equates purely to money.
	To money.
	What the Mark of the Beast is, is something that is, at first we thought it would involve xenotransplantation, the growth of animal parts transplanted by surgical methods into human beings.
	They're doing that now.
	Yes, I know.
	That is what, it is something perhaps akin to that because we have done a cursory or modicum amount of work on the market of bees, but we stopped short.
	Now we have to be sure. We have to be sure of those two things.
	All right, Ed, hold on. We're at the bottom of the hour. We're going to shortly take calls.
	If you have a question for Ed Dames, come on ahead.
	We can tell what kind of night it is.
	I guess it's a good way to let people out on the way to Africa.
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	This may seem like... We're about to go back to Ed Dames, um, but there is this.
	Aren't the problem you, Ed, are discussing about the plant pathogen, it's already occurring in Angola.
	You can confirm this with the UNDP, whatever that is.
	United Nations, something or another, I'm sure.
	I've worked in Angola since 1990 and I can tell you that this unidentified plant pathogen Has become an enormous problem with the agricultural community in the last six months.
	Haven't heard that one before, Ed?
	No, no.
	You, you, did you know about this?
	Uh, no, no, I haven't been, uh, I have not been following, uh, that, the vital pathology field.
	Well, apparently something is going on in Africa, in Angola.
	Great.
	Oh, we're being overwhelmed across the board here.
	And I think, as you already know, the quickening is a very apropos term for what's happening.
	A lot of things real fast.
	A lot of things real fast, yes.
	All right, I want to begin to take calls I think I've run through, unless there's something you want to get on the air that I didn't manage yet to touch on.
	I tried to sort of fit all the important stuff in.
	the front body of the program here. If there's anything I missed, lay it on us now because
	otherwise we'll get a call. There isn't anything except at some juncture
	if I thought it might be interesting for you to know about Project Twinkle in 1952, the
	green fireballs that have been so prevalent. Oh, you know I want to know about that.
	I wanted to tell you about... Ed, not only all over North America, and
	by that I mean America and Canada, every place, but now in Australia, New Zealand,
	I'm getting reports from literally all over the world about these green fireballs.
	That said, go right ahead.
	I faxed you four pages out of the UFO Encyclopedia about Project Twinkle, which was a very interesting project in 1952 because it was chaired by a Nobel laureate, And Edward Teller later met on the same board to investigate these green fireballs that were whizzing around New Mexico, very similar to what is happening now, and same descriptions.
	And what's interesting about Project Twinkle is that the phenomenon was recognized as real.
	And one of the conclusions was that these green fireballs appeared to be under intelligent control, which was a conclusion by a board of Nobel laureates that is unique in UFO analysis.
	And this appears to be a resurgence of that same phenomenon.
	My company actually investigated.
	We picked up this investigation in 1992.
	It was a proprietary contract.
	I can't discuss the results of our findings, but we found ourselves back again in New Mexico in the Chaco Canyon area monitoring the same phenomenon on a minor scale.
	So the original conclusion was Whatever these are, they are under intelligent control.
	That is one of the conclusions that was derived as a result of Project Twinkle in 1952, and that project was interrupted by the Korean War.
	But I'll tell you what SciTech found without going into the proprietary stuff.
	This is why we don't do corporate contracts anymore.
	We stopped in 1994.
	The corporate contracts are very interesting.
	Advanced deep space propulsion systems, those kind of things.
	And I can't talk about them because our customers own the work.
	But what I can say about our research in New Mexico on this green fireball phenomenon is this.
	Those green fireballs are not things.
	They are actually artifacts of propulsion.
	I'll say, like a contrail or a sonic boom.
	What you're seeing is not the thing that produced it.
	You're just seeing this artifact.
	It is a real vehicle that is transiting time from one time window to the next, and that green fireball that you see is actually like a contrail or a sonic boom produced When a real vehicle transits your time window, the window of observation.
	Fascinating.
	Well, I mean, there have been just hundreds and hundreds, maybe thousands of reports.
	And unless meteorites and bolides have taken on new characteristics, like hovering, then something else is going on here.
	I'm perfectly willing to accept your explanation.
	It's as logical as any I've heard.
	Let's do it.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames from SciTech.
	Hi.
	Hi, John.
	This is Tomas.
	Tomas, where are you?
	Colorado.
	Colorado, okay.
	And I got a question as far as dealing with the mark of the beast.
	Yes.
	Your soul and the great deception that's going to deceive If it were possible, even the elect, and what the sacred name has to do with escaping the loss of your soul.
	Okay, well, hold on a sec.
	Ed, in talking the other night with Stan, one thing he made very clear ...was that we are on the edge of an event that's about to occur.
	A gigantic event.
	Everybody refers to it.
	But Stan said, it's going to be a great deception.
	His words were, a great deception.
	And there are many who read that from the Bible.
	Anything to say on that score?
	No, I don't.
	I think that we're going to be dealing with so much complexity, people will have to make those decisions for themselves.
	That's going to be tough, of course.
	My efforts and my company's efforts are going to be strictly on identifying the details of the Mark of the Beast and whoever the beast is, and that should be interesting.
	We just don't have time and the resources to do anything else.
	But I think that's enough.
	To me, that is a good goal.
	What would you do with that information, Ed?
	I would first announce it on your show.
	You would be naming an individual.
	Now, you've described the Beast.
	Really not as an individual, or am I mixed up here?
	In the past, what we have targeted was the false prophet.
	That may be synonymous, in terms of the collective unconscious, with what the Bible terms the beast.
	I don't know yet.
	We're going to find out.
	But I think even more importantly is this mark.
	Because you know what it means.
	I know what it means.
	But you know what?
	If you actually were going to name an individual, I don't think we could do that.
	I don't think we could do it either.
	I mean, somebody would get killed.
	The mark we could do.
	The mark we could do.
	But I'll have to find another venue.
	My website, for instance.
	No, of course.
	around the libel issue. Even there, Ed, even there. But on the other hand, if you were
	really sure of what you were saying, how could you not tell?
	No, of course, and I am full well of doing it. Boy, that's one big responsibility on
	your shoulders, and I wouldn't want that, thank you very much. Wildcard Line, you're on the air with
	Ed Dames, Major Ed Dames, hi. Hi. I can barely hear you.
	Hi.
	Is that better?
	That's better, yes.
	Where are you?
	My name is Violet and I'm calling from Coos Bay, Oregon.
	Okay.
	Yes, I have some information that I think you'll find relevant to tonight's topic matter.
	Just go right ahead.
	Okay, about a month ago I was listening to a talk show in the evening.
	It was not a religious program.
	It was a secular program.
	And he had a guest on that night by the name of Tim Cohen, who has written a book called The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea.
	And he comes right out and names things.
	Have you heard about it?
	Yes.
	You know what I say to it?
	Prince Charles, give me a break.
	Now, wait a minute, Art.
	You have to remember that they do claim, the royal family, that they have Jewish lineage.
	And I was watching Queen Elizabeth... No, if it's Prince Charles, I'll eat their china.
	I'm not buying that one for a second.
	May I interject something here?
	The real value of technical remote viewing is that anyone that learns this, and it's
	all done the same way, it's a standardized procedure, all those who learn this produce
	the same data against the same search term.
	So that's one of the ways, this is a good cross check and a good control.
	It won't be just SciTech saying who the beast is.
	It will be anybody that's trained in remote viewing working the same target.
	It will be a collection of corroborating data that says this is a description of the beast.
	I'm sure it will be a chorus of voices.
	And it is direct knowledge.
	There's no red tape.
	There's no analysis.
	There's no maybe this, maybe that.
	It's a description of your target.
	Mm-hmm.
	You know, if the title had been the Antichrist and turban or something, I might buy it, but a cup of tea.
	East of the Rockies, you're on air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Hey, Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Where are you, sir?
	Um, I'm in Jacksonville, North Carolina.
	Okay, you're not too clear to hear, so... Okay, I'll cut the phone.
	Yeah, um, you guys were talking about who the Antichrist is?
	Yes.
	Well, here's the way I look at it.
	I'm the Antichrist.
	Miguel Angel Vasquez.
	For the simple reason is this.
	It's not out of hatred.
	It's out of love.
	Because the woman of your dreams, or your wife, that you love, if anything were to happen to her, Because of anything in the Ten Commandments, just to say murder.
	Would you say, why God?
	Why Jesus?
	Or would you say, Antioch?
	Antioch?
	Antioch.
	The Antioch word is this.
	They said Napoleon was Antichrist.
	Napoleon might have fell in love, and came to the girl's daughter, I mean, came to the, to the father, Well, indeed, Ed, you did say, when we were talking about the size switch earlier, that the best transmitter was love, didn't you?
	I'm good of all friends.
	Disapprove is love.
	Hitler.
	Well, indeed, Ed, you did say when we were talking about the Psy-Switch earlier that
	the best transmitter was love, didn't you?
	I showed that one of the highest states, threshold states, was the state of love.
	Humans need love.
	Let me, can I, a little anecdotal news bit I think is very moving.
	You remember Colonel Bo Gritz?
	Bo Gritz.
	Oh yeah, Bo Gritz.
	Bo Gritz, yes.
	He's not passed on, he's still with us.
	I know, and I did not fight alongside Bo Gritz, but my friend that did, You know, will testify to him as being one of the most courageous men that they knew in the army.
	But, uh, self-inflicted gunshot wound because, I mean, he put a bullet in his body, uh, because he faced the prospect of losing the one he loved.
	That's, that's the story, yes.
	And, uh, you know, it is, it is very, because he was still a human.
	All humans need love, including, you know, the toughest of warriors.
	You'll get no argument from me.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi, Eric.
	Hi, Ed.
	This is Sarah from Portland area, from 1190 KX.
	Yes.
	And I was just curious, I have a question about remote viewing.
	If properly trained, could a blind person remote view?
	Yes, if they're taught stage one by someone who can see.
	Someone who can see has to hold their hand or another blind person that has been taught has to actually hold their hand and produce certain marks on paper called ideograms.
	After that, it's a standardized procedure that they need to be able to produce on the paper.
	After that, they're on their own and they can learn the rest without help.
	It's a normal method.
	That's not apparently the normal method by which a sighted person would learn to remote view.
	Well, no, a sighted person would have a distinct advantage in being able to mentally process these shapes.
	Well, not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	The only advantage that the sighted person has is learning stage one.
	After that, it's the The train remote viewer, whether blind or sighted, produces the same results.
	Take it from me.
	Well, I remember, Ed, on one of your tapes, I think it was a promo piece of news, a team came to your home and your vice president was doing a remote viewing session.
	That was in our office, our corporate office.
	That's correct.
	Which was amazing and blew away the reporter.
	I remember all that.
	But I remember that your vice president was Working with shapes on paper, drawing, circles, circulation.
	We were talking about a helicopter.
	Yes.
	And so those are shapes.
	And this lady's question, I think, is relevant.
	How do you impart the concept of shapes to one who has never seen shapes?
	What do you mean by shapes?
	I mean, you mean two-dimensional shapes?
	Um, or even three, but two at least, yes.
	Isn't the problem that blind people have no problem with that?
	Well, I can understand that a blind person, a person who has never been sighted, could take their finger and make a circle and understand the concept of a circle as we could look at a piece of paper and see a circle.
	They could draw, you could take their hand and you could make a circle and they would then understand a circle.
	For instance, there's a thing called raised line drawing that a lot of blind students use to learn math, geometry, and such things.
	Precisely.
	And that's exactly how I was taught, for instance.
	I'm blind.
	I was born blind.
	And I've always been able to really visualize things fairly well.
	Architecturally, for instance, put together houses and rooms and houses and how they'd fit together.
	And so I thought that if a blind person could be taught the right techniques, they could remote view.
	Yeah, we've run into this exactly this problem before numerous times and it's only stage one, the initial stage, which our basic module is one training module.
	It's a video module, but the only part that has to really be taught to blind people is that first stage of a number of stages.
	So they can accurately report like Thank you very much.
	Ed, hold on, we're at the top of the hour.
	My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
	If you have questions for him, that's where we're gonna be for the remainder of the time.
	I just can't resist that.
	Yes. All right.
	Yeah. All right.
	Right. Thank you very much.
	Ed, hold on. We're at the top of the hour.
	My guest is SciTech's Major Ed Dames.
	If you have questions for him, that's where we're going to be for the remainder of the time.
	I just can't resist that.
	On the phone with Major Ed Dames.
	Been quite a night, huh?
	I'm feeling the chain is about to break.
	Night vision is a remarkable tool.
	In fact, astronomers who use optic telescopes... I had the pleasure to interview one recently, and he said there are no big telescopes that don't use night vision.
	You know why?
	I'll tell you why.
	You'll notice right away why.
	When you go outside and you look up at the sky normally with your eyes, you get a little pollution perhaps, and you see two or three stars.
	You don't have the kind of sky I have here in the desert.
	You take night vision, and you look at the same sky, and it's an oh my god kind of moment.
	The stars are on top of stars.
	That's how much difference night vision makes.
	And of course, it turns earthly terrain from night into day.
	So you can see creatures on two legs or four legs.
	I got it for security, but I quickly found out night vision is just plain old-fashioned fun.
	There's a lot of difference, by the way, in night vision companies.
	Beware!
	Plastic lenses, lousy optics, Flawed tubes.
	The world is full of bad deals.
	And we sorted through to find the best for you.
	The AMT Model 2.
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	Price includes shipping and handling.
	How can you resist?
	Call beginning at 7.30 in the morning.
	730 in the morning, 1-800-522-8863.
	1-800-522-8863.
	Absolutely Fresh Flowers is a flower company in Southern California, really they are.
	The 24-hour order line is 1-888-878-0333.
	And there are live operators Monday through Friday 9 a.m.
	to 9 p.m.
	780333 and there are live operators on Monday through Friday 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.
	Eastern Time at 1-888-234-2500 Good enough.
	All right, here they come again.
	First time caller line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames and Art Valheim.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm in Austin, Texas on KJFK.
	All right.
	I was wondering if Ed happens to know if Father Martin was familiar or used the remote viewing technique?
	I'm glad to ask, Ed.
	No, in fact the only education he's ever had in remote viewing is on the Art Dell Show.
	Father Martin was concerned a couple of years ago that perhaps remote viewing might be a negative thing mixed in with the occult.
	I called Art Bell and asked to go toe to toe with Malachi Martin on this issue.
	And he agreed.
	Yes.
	So we did that on the Art Bell show.
	It was a remarkable program.
	Absolutely remarkable and I expected a big clash and that big clash did not occur.
	Essentially, what I told Father Martin was that one does not lose one's spirituality
	when you remote view.
	You still have that same quality when you remote view.
	And it doesn't change you in that regard.
	Not giving up anything when you remote view.
	Right, exactly.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames and Art Bell.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Hi, where are you?
	This is Gary calling from the Sacramento area, California.
	Okay, Gary, um, you know we're on KFBK there now, too.
	Oh, is that right?
	No, I didn't know that.
	Yep.
	Surprise, surprise.
	All right.
	Okay, yes, I have a question for the Major.
	Shoot.
	Okay, I consider my, um, you know, in terms of biblical prophecy, there's, uh, you know, certain interpretations that are, you know, pretty commonly held.
	I'd say by spirit-filled believers, Pentecostal charismatics.
	The first seal represents false covenant entered into between the beasts and Israel,
	giving a false sense of security.
	The second seal being the wars that engulf the earth.
	By this time, we're well into the Great Tribulation.
	The third seal is the famines resulting from these wars.
	The fourth seal is the deaths resulting from these wars and famines.
	The fifth seal is the martyrdom of the saints, persecution of the saints.
	And we get the sixth seal.
	Yes, you're right.
	Cataclysmic events that's disrupting all human institutions, governments.
	There's a parallel verse in... I take your color.
	Your question is, what about the first five seals?
	Right.
	How do we jump over the first five seals?
	We have to be well into the Great Tribulation to be up to the opening of the Sixth Seal.
	And it appears we have not entered it.
	Well, hold on a moment.
	Listen for your answer.
	The way that I understand that is that, and keep in mind that I'm matching the raw remote viewing data to biblical scripture.
	And the match is so close.
	Again, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
	All of the seals are open and they're all in the same arena.
	For instance, the idea of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
	It isn't just that one comes and goes and then the next horseman comes and goes.
	They each enter this This world arena at separate times and operate independent of each other.
	And so the seals, as they're broken, allegorically, metaphorically speaking, they're broken and they each begin to operate and one does not complete its events prior to the next one starting.
	Alright, so it's not a precisely sequential thing.
	There's an overlap, that's correct.
	All right.
	That's your answer, caller.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	I'm Barbara from Dallas.
	Hi, Barbara.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi, Ed.
	Hi, Amy.
	I just wanted to tell you, I'm a Roman Catholic, and I don't know if you've ever heard about Garibaldo's slain apparitions there.
	I have, yes.
	You have?
	Yes.
	Well, because the third secret wasn't revealed by the Vatican, by the Pope, Our Blessed Mother appeared between 1961 and 1965 at Garibaldo, Spain, telling about the chastisement.
	And there were four young people, four young girls, and the warning, I don't know if it was Stan or whoever was talking about Heaven coming to Earth.
	I think that's what, in Father Malachi, Martin said something about there will be a sign in the sky.
	Yes.
	Well, the warning will be... It will be very fearful.
	She says it's a thousand times worse than earthquakes.
	It will be like fire.
	It will not burn our flesh, but we will feel it bodily and interiorly.
	It is a thing from heaven and people in every part of the world will suffer from it.
	None of us will escape it.
	And it's going to be where we will see, it's an enlightenment from God, where we will see our souls if God sees them.
	And that will be the time for the good to become, prepare themselves, and for the evil, or those that are in sin, to amend their lives.
	The warning will come before the chastisement service, from what I understand.
	The warning, then the exile of the Pope, and then everything will break loose then.
	But I understand that the Antichrist will only reign about three and a half years, which tells you that in Revelations.
	I think it's something between 1,100 to 1,200 days, which coincides with three and a half hours that our Lord hung on the cross.
	All right.
	Does this culminate in a question, or are you just sort of... Well, I was just going to... I will send this to you, both of you.
	Okay, you're on cellular and you're breaking up.
	Okay.
	That's better.
	I wanted to ask one more thing.
	Did you ever hear about the Mark of the Beast being a chip?
	Oh yes, everybody's heard about that.
	Thank you.
	That the Mark of the Beast will be a chip implanted into us against our will or that we will be Now keep in mind, Art, that no one really knows, there's no one out there that really knows specifically what it is, and that is why technical remote viewing is so important, because it is specific, and it was designed to be an intelligence collection tool to be used against technologies.
	And that is either biological or physical technologies.
	And I'm sure we can do this.
	We'll get started as soon as we can.
	And I'll keep you posted.
	Boy, that'll be some results.
	It will be very interesting.
	Indeed.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Major Ed Deems.
	Hi.
	Hello?
	Yeah, this is Kay.
	Kay, hello.
	You're going to have to yell at us.
	I can barely hear you.
	Where are you, Kay?
	In Scottsdale, Arizona.
	Okay.
	Is that better?
	That's better.
	Great.
	Okay, my question is, I'd like to know how you prepare for specifically the kill shot.
	What does he suggest for that?
	This is a very good question, actually.
	How does one prepare for something called the kill shot, Ed?
	From our research, it appears that we need...
	The direct effect, I'm not sure if anyone can prepare oneself for that, but the consequences thereof, it looks like you need to be underground and have a good supply of water and some food.
	Other than that, there's nothing I can suggest.
	I know that's what I'm doing.
	I'm going to try to be near my hole.
	And as much of the spring of 99 as possible, and near fresh water, and that's about it.
	How long will you stay there?
	I have no idea.
	No idea?
	You have a way of calculating it, though, to where you know it's safe?
	For it to come out?
	No.
	I think what we're dealing with is heat, the effects of heat.
	Getting away from heat and high winds.
	And that'll be pretty easy to do.
	Get close to the opening of a hole or to the top of the ground level and you'll be able to judge wind speed and heat pretty easily.
	And you can come out time to time, but basically you will live in there.
	In the hole.
	I think the effects will not last more than two weeks.
	I mean the immediate effects.
	Once one comes back out, I don't know what we're coming back out to, But that's what we've got so far.
	Can I ask you one more question?
	Sure.
	The fungus that you have, that you were talking about, is this the same thing that they're finding in the vineyards in California?
	All that we know is that this particulate that was disseminated in the atmosphere over Africa and that appears to be spreading Is an accelerator for a number of fungi, for different blights.
	I don't know how many different species of blights, but that's what it does.
	It's a catalyst.
	It makes them grow faster.
	I see.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for the call.
	Other people.
	Not here.
	The site is identified and we haven't initiated anything yet.
	Only because we've been busy with other things like Amelia Earhart and real world projects.
	This Project Sarman is mine.
	It belongs to me.
	It's not of interest to SciTech.
	It's not in the best interest of my corporation.
	It is something that I have funded personally and it is a personal interest to me.
	I talk about it because I think it's interesting.
	obviously has for me now. The milestones, when it happens, that's how technical remote viewing can
	come in and look at the details that are harbingers, that describe the harbingers of each one of those
	things. And right now what we're saying is that we're just about ready for what in revelations
	is termed the sixth seal. There's all kinds of sources of information and
	the exegesis of the revelations is just about the same across the Christian community. So
	just follow on down and you'll know what's coming next.
	Where we are, though, navigationally, is in the summer.
	It's happening now.
	We in the United States have been protected by all these firewalls.
	The rest of the world doesn't have that protection.
	We have a strong economy, we even have a surplus, but that's coming down real quick.
	Watch the credit and watch the jobs in this country evaporate virtually overnight.
	And that's the final word on that.
	And the time frame, the actual time frame, we're into it now, obviously you can see worldwide what's going on, but does it carry on to 99 in New Year's or does a big event this spring, this one, the coronal massive discharge or whatever is going to happen, does that, do we actually get to the top or does that proceed the actual Let me put it this way.
	Many people have asked SciTech about Y2K, about the year 2000 event, and our response is that it's made moot by events in 1999, that we never get to Y2K.
	Oh wow.
	by events in 1999 that we never get to Y2K.
	Oh wow. Right.
	I'm going to jump back into the chat room.
	It's been nice talking to you in real life.
	I will probably jump in too.
	I've got your tapes, I've got all the modules.
	I'm just getting into it now.
	It's just absolutely fascinating.
	Well, you need to be in the TRV classroom because that's where I teach, on the internet, in the classroom.
	And you'll learn advanced skills there.
	A hundred percent.
	All right, caller.
	Okay, thank you very much, sir.
	Thank you.
	Take care, Wild Card Line.
	You're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
	Hi.
	Good evening, Mr. Dames.
	Good evening, Elt.
	All right.
	I have two questions, basically.
	One question part, and up here into Canada.
	Right.
	But the place that other people get is in Polynesia.
	So that's two separate sides of the earth.
	Right.
	It's being worked out in the collective unconscious in some way.
	This unitary mind is a very powerful thing.
	It can sort and sift a lot of details and end up with a direct answer, just like a computer does.
	Very interesting parallels to computers.
	And I go with the answer without trying to crunch through all of the details.
	Think of a computer's problem trying to predict the weather.
	Even with all the Cray-5s and banks of supercomputers that Los Alamos National Lab has, they still can't predict weather accurately.
	But if you use technical remote viewing, this grand mind, this universal mind crunches all those problems for you and spits out the right answer.
	If you have the skill, because technical remote viewing is a skill, Thank you, Mr. James.
	This is Mike in San Francisco, in a case of country.
	My second question was for you.
	Who is the guy that does your intros, with the really deep voice?
	He is Ross Mitchell, who does the morning program on KOH in Reno, Nevada.
	Have you ever had him as a guest?
	As a matter of fact, no.
	But it's a grand idea.
	He would make a great guest because he's obviously followed your show for numerous years now.
	Well, if Charlton Heston ever leaves us, I figure Ross is the next voice of God.
	Definitely.
	Alright, thanks Eric.
	Alright, thank you.
	And I always sort of wondered about the advisability of always having my own voice follow Ross's.
	It's an old thing in show business about Never, never, never following a dog or a child act.
	And not that he's either one of those, but he's just got a voice that you shouldn't follow.
	But what the hell.
	Ed, we are out of time.
	Way out of time.
	Closer to the truth than you think?
	It's not been nothing, no.
	We will, I trust, I hope, have enough time to do another program.
	After all, there's a lot of things hanging.
	There always are.
	So, if they give us enough time, Ed, we'll do another one.
	Enjoy your trip to Africa, Art.
	Thanks, Ed.
	You take care of my friends.
	Okay, thanks for having me on.
	Good night.
	What are you searching for?
	What would make you happy?
	Tough question, huh?
	Well, there's this place.
	It's called eBay.
	That's e-b-a-y dot com.
	That's right, it's on the internet.
	eBay is where millions of people are looking to send, to buy, and sell.
	And they're not just searching.
	They're actually finding.
	You see, there's more out there in cyberspace than just a lot of fascinating but slightly useless information.
	There's some pretty cool stuff.
	Lionel trains.
	An old Rolex watch.
	And at eBay, you can get some... So, away I go.
	You've got quite a week of, uh, very, very good receipts ahead of you.
	And I'll be talking with you in about a week.

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