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Oct. 12, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines. Art's Retirement Announcement

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very much.
		Uh by giving his data birth and uh that sort of information it sounds like you're looking for a reading on this person.
		And uh remote viewing doesn't exactly do that, though.
		I suppose you could remote view a specific person's future and make that kind of determination.
		I'm not sure.
		Easy to walk.
		Easier.
		I you are.
		Okay.
unidentified		I just uh added one thing I wanted to put out here.
		Listeners out there is a sort of a primer.
		An old book, The Study of the Paranormal, the Supernatural, and you are called back on Watt back in the 70s.
		But it's the best reference book, but uh all that you deal with.
		And the other thing, the guy you didn't name the book, yes, it's called the study of the paranormal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, use the title of the book.
unidentified		Okay.
		Yeah, he it does the whole history.
		The whole history from that point back.
		And uh it's very well very well written.
		It would give you the name of probably every book that was ever written on it in history.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		Now what I want to ask you about was the gentleman you had on, uh the two gentlemen were talking about uh the fourth dimension that they they believe that physics is getting to the point where they can prove it.
		Okay, have you ever heard of Gary Zukov?
		Okay, the dancing believe masters.
		Now he, I believe, is a professor, was a professor, uh and this book, this was years ago, and I haven't been in this subject matter for years, and really you brought me back to it.
		Uh they they sort of come to the conclusion, I don't believe he was actually a physics professor, but uh this is a layman's book on the concept that physics can today are at that point proves that there not only is a fourth dimension, but that really anything is possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, well, I don't think there's been actual proof of it yet, and I think that uh the reference to other dimensions is generally made by people of the caliber of Dr. Michio Kaku.
		And yet you've got to remember these are theoretical physicists.
		Uh not that there is any specific proof, but that these are theories, and I'm not familiar with any absolute proof that there is such a thing as any dimension beyond the third.
		If you ask my personal point of view, I would have to say I believe there is.
unidentified		Well, for those of you who leave us at this hour, goodbye Though you can go Bang a party in the kickstooth Take them all away,
		Take the long way home Through the Joe Scott neighborhood Or should you care if you keep you Take the long way home Take the long way home There's time to kill you All you need to be All you need to be And you're down and
		falling And you're watching things You're far as a furniture Oh, it's in the air And you're feeling all right It's the only
		day, it's the only night Take the long way home Take the long way home Never see what you wanna see Everything's
		good, I'm good Take the long way home Take the long way home When you're up for the day You're so unbelievable Oh, it's the only day that you I say it's all of you And you're watching things You're so unbelievable And you're so unbelievable And you're so unbelievable And you're so unbelievable And you're so
		unbelievable And you're so unbelievable Take the long way home The
		End The
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		The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The
		End the Kingdom of Nigh, this is Coast to Coast AM with Artell.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Now again, here's Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am.
		Things rarely, if ever, and I think possibly never go back to where they began.
		right Anyway, good morning from the high desert.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, Eric, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing okay.
unidentified		I have a question for you, actually, two comments.
		All right.
		First one is, I'm really confused on that dollar thing.
		I know it was kind of long-winded, but it's really bothering me.
		And I don't quite understand how that's possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me either.
unidentified		I've run it through my head, like, tons of times.
unidentified		And so if anybody has a an answer out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought that it was a convoluted mess that did did not prove that two and two every day of the week, uh every month do not equal four.
unidentified		But it was interesting.
		It it was kind of I I thought he was gonna have an interesting story about a time machine myself.
		But uh um and the second thing I was gonna I was gonna ask you this.
		I I've been listening to your show probably for oh god a couple months now.
		And I noticed that uh when I'd been listening anyway, not one of your guests hasn't had a book out.
		And I've I've kind of I don't think that has anything to do with credibility, but I was wondering Ed Dames had one, did he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Didn't he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Did he have any kind of published thing or articles or anything like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not that I know of.
unidentified		Okay, well, how about, say, 90%?
		Okay.
		85%.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is usual.
unidentified		I understand, but I'm just wondering if that's it seems to me that they're advertising their book.
		I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I find it's a money maker.
		Absolutely.
		I'm wondering if it's not, if, for example, I had something like, you know, if I had an energy source, an overoperity energy source, I would be sort of going to the public, going to the media and saying, hey, here it is.
		And if I really had it, and it was really blatantly obvious, like some of these people are claiming, that they would actually it would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have not yet seen one that is blatantly obvious.
unidentified		Oh, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you?
unidentified		No, I haven't.
		But just in general, like, I'm just saying that's an example.
		Like, for example, the UFOs.
		I mean, everybody's seeing them, but the media is not doing anything.
		People have books out and they sell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I'm just wondering if that's not...
		Yes, this person has a book.
		People from NASA you had on probably a couple weeks ago had books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I'm just it makes me a little skeptical because I think, well, it seems that their main concern, or one of their main concerns, is making money off of it.
unidentified		Whereas if it was genuine and the world was going to end, money wouldn't matter much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, whether it's about the world ending, or it's about Bill Clinton's sex life, or it's about how ants mate in the wild, when you write a book, what you've got to do is get out there and try and sell it.
		And the object indeed is to make money and to disperse information.
		So it's a common, obvious thing that people who come on talk shows frequently have books to sell.
unidentified		I understand that.
		And I can see.
		That's why I think websites are really good.
		But I just, I've noticed it.
		Maybe I've got it the wrong way, but I think, oh, God, not another book.
		because there seems to be so many books.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to buy it.
unidentified		Oh, that's true.
		That's true.
		Some of the things are so amazing, and I'm not, you know, smashing their credibility or anything, because I think that some of these people really have something to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's exactly it.
		In other words, the fact that they are selling a book doesn't make them either more or less credible.
		You might say, I suppose, that if somebody comes on with information and does not have a book, well, Ed Dames, for example, a lot of people complain about him.
unidentified		I think Ed Dames is great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think he's great, huh?
unidentified		I think he puts, when he was on, he put a very, very credible, he had his facts straight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about Sean David Morton?
unidentified		Sean David Morton?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he's written a book either.
unidentified		I think he has.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the name of that?
unidentified		I don't remember it off my hand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
unidentified		But I'm, okay.
unidentified		Well, I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know he has a newsletter.
unidentified		Yes, he's a Delphi Innovation, didn't he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Delphi Associates, yes.
unidentified		But I think that's great because that's something that's reaching the public and he's not necessarily making money.
		I think he was saying indeed that he was actually lucky to break even.
		I think he shows real character because he's really trying to get himself heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So mostly then the people that you don't like are the ones that are selling books that you disagree with.
unidentified		No, no, no, not at all.
unidentified		I'm just I don't not I don't not like them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just give me an example of somebody that you think is just in it for the money.
unidentified		Whitley Striever.
		He seemed to me, I mean, it seemed to me like he was pushing his book a lot.
		And I know people called him and he's like, well, this is in my book.
		This is my book.
		Check out my book.
		Whereas if it was me this was happening to, I'd be saying, look, here it is.
		For you don't know that you might not have the money.
		Here you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I really hardly see anybody who does that.
		For those of you who don't have the money, here you go.
unidentified		I don't mean to.
		I'm not saying that I don't believe these people.
		I'm just I'm questioning that it seems that they're wanting to make money just as much as they're wanting to have their stories heard and said.
		And if it was me that had seen these things, experienced these things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you this.
		Since you mentioned Whitley, he's a friend of mine, a personal friend.
		And I've had private conversations with him over a long span of time.
		And as a matter of fact, Whitley, it's interesting you should have mentioned Whitley because he wrote Communion and then a series of books since.
		And he literally faced bankruptcy.
		I mean, total bankruptcy.
		Had no money at all after writing a bestseller.
		And wrote that book because he was compelled to write it.
		And in conversation with him privately, he's everything that he seems to be in public.
		In other words, as I talk to him privately, he is passionate about the subject material that ended up in that book, the experiences that he had that resulted in the writing of communion and so forth.
		So I know that for a fact from him privately.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I wasn't in that conversation, so I can't comment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you've only heard what he's done on the air.
unidentified		The reason I'm saying, he came to my mind because I called and I said, I asked him a question.
		He's like, well, it's in my book.
		And he didn't, I mean, I went and looked at it and since then found the answer to my question.
		But I just remember thinking, well, hold on a sec.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like, not that I don't believe him, but I thought that it would be he was saying there are times, though, when a question would require such a complicated answer, and, you know, you have several chapters laid out in a book that you just say that, or maybe you want to sell books.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or really both.
unidentified		I just find it an interesting phenomenon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just wanted to get your thoughts on it, because it is something that And you think that that's not a problem.
unidentified		Okay.
		Like, forbidden archaeology.
		I think that's really, really good.
		Because in a situation like that, you can't possibly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I remember Michael Cremel, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I remember several times during the show with Michael when he said to a caller, you'll have to read my book.
unidentified		But he did explain it.
unidentified		He explained it very, very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But there were several times who got responded to in that manner.
unidentified		Yes.
		And that's, you know, I understand.
		But he.
		It's hard to put my finger exactly on what I mean, but he seemed like he was his attitude was more genuine.
		It was okay.
		Maybe I'm wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		Thank you.
		His attitude was more genuine.
		I think that it goes back to what I said a moment ago, and that is that you object to those people that you do not find credible who are selling books.
		Those that you personally find credible that are selling books, that's okay.
		If a person makes reference or gives an answer to a question that basically is, I'm sorry, you'll have to read my book, if you think that person is not credible, then you think they're just a huckster selling books.
		But on the other hand, if you think they are credible, then the statement doesn't bother you.
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	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Boy, sure glad you made it back for some live shows.
	How about that, huh?
	The reruns are good, but live you're really current, and I'm really...
	Five is better.
	I wanted to, your Let's rephrase that.
	They're not my problems.
	They are our problems.
	Our problems.
	Well, we're in the process of watching the geese stage to go south.
	Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the geese have a problem, then we really have a problem.
	Well, I'm from Winnipeg, and there are millions of them around here.
	And the only slight difference I've noticed is that they seem to be a bit smaller groups staging.
	So they may be later in their staging process, because as they get further along their staging process, they get into bigger groups.
	But the incredible number, like they're mostly snow geese.
	And when they're young, they're called blues, because they're not all white, they're blue.
	But the incredible number of blues is just, I've never seen the like of it.
	There aren't very many adults, it seems, but there are incredible numbers of blues.
	So if anybody wants to watch the geese, I'd suggest they do it with an umbrella because we're sending down millions and millions and millions of them, way more than we ever had.
	Can I say something about your president?
	Oh, sure.
	He's been doing a real good job on his foreign policy in spite of the fact that he's got his hands full here.
	He's got Iran fairly well tamed down.
	He's got Great Britain taking care of her.
	He's keeping an eye on Afghanistan, that terrorist then.
	He's keeping an eye on China.
	I think he's feeding India a little bit of help in case China gets out of hand.
	They're right on the same borders, you know.
	And I'd like to commend a law that we have in Canada in our Constitution, which is that our Prime Minister, nor any Member of Parliament, which is similar to your Congress, can be sued civilly while the House is sitting.
	Now that's not a problem.
	But you have a different mechanism up there.
	You have a parliamentary system in which a vote of confidence can be taken.
	Yes, in other words, you have an alternative method for removal from office in between elections.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Our prime minister is actually a member of the parliament, which is different.
		Your president has to be invited into Congress to talk, doesn't he?
		That's right.
		Yeah.
		Basically.
		Well, there is a constitutional mandate for the state of the union, but otherwise, yeah.
		Well, so what I'm saying essentially is that we can't tie up our prime minister in a civil litigation when he's busy doing the state business.
		And I commend that as a good idea for your But again, though, even your Prime Minister is not above the law.
		Criminal law.
		Criminal law, right.
		While he's tied up doing state business, he is above the civil law.
		You have to wait.
		it's just the chapter week if you want to assume and if that had been in place with paula jones uh...
		Perjury, suborning to perjury, witness tampering, blah, blah.
		Yes, I agree.
		And it's pretty tragic that the normal reaction of a guy being asked if he's committed adultery when he's in front of his wife, which is what your president was, he's going to say no, and my heart goes out to their daughter.
unidentified		I mean, I just, you know, I just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tragic is correct.
		I couldn't agree more.
		It really is tragic.
		And I agree with him with respect to Chelsea.
		I heard some complete ass the other day continuing to jump on Chelsea.
		And I just, you know, I guess I just don't see how people go there.
		And I think that this is a tragedy, and if we go through an impeachment, it's going to be a tragedy for the whole country.
		That's my view and my take on this.
		But I am not immune to the argument that there are allegations of criminal activity here.
		It may all be born of the difficulty with the women.
		Certainly no question about that.
		But all things considered, for those who are able to separate what the president did privately or even what grew from that from his actual performance as president, I really think that you've got to give him some marks.
		But politically, people don't do that.
		They have great hatreds that they hold on to very, very dearly.
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unidentified		Don't know where I've been to know what you found someone.
unidentified		And wanna make my breath.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You gotta admit that is a voice.
unidentified		I'll be gone when you're gone.
		I'll be fine.
		I'll be back and gonna make my blood food.
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		You seem to want for me what I cannot do, I feel so long for my time.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, I love that line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast AM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm Mark Bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll continue with open lines in a moment.
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		All right, back to the lines we go.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
		Hi there.
		This is Mike in Phoenix.
		Hi, Mike.
		I heard something that you'd said earlier about the Auroras.
		Yes.
		Well, I had an old story transport to me from my grandmother.
		She's since dead.
		Before World War I, there was a similar action of that going on.
		Does that Dames have anything to say about any kind of military conflict going on in relation with this, or that this could be a sign of?
		No, not that I'm aware of.
		This is an event on the sun.
		It's what's going on with our sun.
		Now, whether this solar cycle turns out to be any greater or lesser or tragic or leads to some sort of polar reversal or whatever, I have no way of knowing.
		But we are in the ascension portion of cycle 23, and these geomagnetic storms are normal.
		They're a little vicious for as early in the cycle as we are.
		That's about all I can tell you from my own personal knowledge.
		And see, my grandmother used to relate that something to do with Fatima had a warning that was given.
		It was a documentary there.
		Oh, yes, there have been warnings.
		Now you're into the religious aspect of three days of darkness and all kinds of things.
		Oh, that stuff, yes.
		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Well, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, my friend.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		I'm calling about the guy who called earlier about his apocalyptic vision of Washington, D.C. Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sort of 10 or 15 second flash.
unidentified		And I don't mean to be a naysayer, but I'm suggesting that he got that vision from a movie called Logan's Run, where they come out and see Washington, specifically Washington with weeds overgrown and a desert town, and the only person left in Washington is Peter Usinoff with his cats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, that could be that a Hollywood frequently either precedes or post-event does something on reality.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, just that they had the vision first, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		Bye.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Good evening, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good evening to you.
unidentified		I'm calling regarding your trip to South Africa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I was born in this surround, left at 13.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were born where?
unidentified		In South Africa.
		Okay.
		And when I was a child, my mother asked our maid in Johannesburg.
		I was born in Cape Town, moved all over.
		Right.
		Would you, if there was an uprising, hurt the children, meaning my sister, little brother, and I?
		And she said, oh no, Missy.
		I would cut their throats in their sleep.
		I wouldn't hurt them.
		And that was the reason that my parents decided to move.
		They were British.
		And my friends that are still there, and people that have come recently, tell me the most gosh-awful stories about that it is absolutely taking one's life into one's heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's not racial.
unidentified		No, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really not racial.
		It's just plain old-fashioned crime and very serious crime.
		It's gangs.
		Yeah, that's right.
		It's black on black, black on white.
		You name it.
		It's a mixture of whoever's got the bucks that you can hit on the head.
		So people don't turn it into something racial.
		It's not.
unidentified		It's just crime.
		my father did investment banking.
		It was all over Africa.
		And Nigeria was so bad that in the harbors you had to have armed guards on your ships with AK-47s.
		And most of Africa now is just basically unvisitable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're quite correct.
		And it was some danger in doing what we did.
		We were well protected.
unidentified		Well, I would have, you know, certainly told you not to go because I think you're wonderful.
unidentified		And I'm very glad you got back safely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it, sir.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		Did you get the answer to the 2 plus 2 doesn't equal 4 little word problem?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, he ran me through the hoops there, and I was unable to discern from his story how that meant 2 plus 2 does not equal 4 every day of the week.
unidentified		Well, he was misstating in a way that's meant to mislead, of course.
		The $3 he gave him back would have made the $27 that it costed him.
		$30, the $2 that he kept would have made it cost the $25 it really should have cost.
		And that's an old trick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember that from the past somewhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know I've heard that one before.
unidentified		Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to figure it out on myself if I hadn't heard it before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, after hearing that arduous presentation, I was disinclined to stick around for his time machine.
unidentified		Well, that was kind of on the subject of free energy and zero-point energy and so on and so forth.
unidentified		I've got a suggestion for a guest if you would entertain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I always will entertain.
unidentified		Okay, well, there's a man named Don Lancaster, and he writes a column called Tech Musings in Electronics Now magazine.
		And he frequently writes on the subject of measuring errors that people that have these zero-point energy sources and so on make.
		He makes a lot of sense, and it might be interesting to have him on, just because it's interesting, say, to have Dr. Kaku or other scientists on and discuss this subject.
		He might be willing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am always happy to consider anybody.
unidentified		Would you like his email address?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not on the air.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay, and could I say one other thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, it is possible for an atheist to believe in God.
		We had a discussion on this before you went to South Africa.
		My dictionary, in fact, does say that a synonym for atheist is a deist, and also that a synonym for deist is atheist.
		And that was the point I was trying to make, and just trying to show people that have a well-developed, what is it, God nodule or whatever?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, God part of the brain.
unidentified		Yeah, that they could overcome that, just as I have, because I really do believe I have a well-developed sense of the holy and so forth, but I am an atheist.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can that be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you have a sense of a creator and be an atheist?
unidentified		Not a creator, but a God.
		I think God happened just like everything else did.
		And what it does is you have this thing built into you.
		I pointed to the idea that you have to take a lot of things on faith because that's how our mind works and filters the inputs.
		So it's a natural thing for us to do.
		But if you can be a deist and say, well, yeah, there might be I can say there was If there's a God out there, but he doesn't matter, you short-circuit all these people who want to tell you, if you believe in God, you've got to do this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying there might be a God.
unidentified		Well, I would, quite frankly, I would extrapolate from what I know and say that it's almost a certainty that out there somewhere there's got to be someone that knows, some being that knows so much that their very thoughts become reality.
		I would say that if knowledge gets to that point, and it's probably not that unthinkably far above us, that you have essentially what might be a God.
		What type, would that be type two in the types of societies, things that we're rated as type zero in?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so.
unidentified		Type two or type three, whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe type three or four, and go on from there somewhere.
unidentified		Okay, say type five, and out of the type five people, if there are individuals at that level.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Civilizations, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, there's got to be one individual who's so far above all of his peers that he's almost godlike himself.
unidentified		Like they're Christ, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're Christ.
unidentified		Yeah, like Christ would be to us, an exceptional individual, Christ or Muhammad or whoever, to us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what makes you think that Christ would not be as much of a godlike figure to an advanced civilization as he was to ours 2,000 years ago?
unidentified		Well, that's just the assumption I'm making, or.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it's just an assumption, then you, my friend, are not an atheist.
		West of the Rockies, you're on ear.
		Hi.
unidentified		Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Oh, it's so good to have you back, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Before I ask, I've got a few things here you might be interested in, but first I'd like to ask you, since you got back, have you been able to check to see how Father Martin's done?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Since I've returned, no.
		Just prior to leaving, yes.
		So that information would be about a week old.
		And last week he was doing okay.
		Recovering.
		Had recovered, I believe, most of the feeling on his right side, with the exception of his right leg.
unidentified		Well, like you, many of us love him, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And all wish him well, and prayers for him would be in order.
unidentified		Well, just a couple of quick things I wanted to ask you.
unidentified		You're going to have Ed Daines on again, you said, shortly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said what I said was that Ed Daines sent me a fact and said that he had additional information that he wanted to get on the air.
unidentified		Well, you remember a few times you asked all of us to place our energy together to see if we can change an event or add to it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did.
unidentified		Yeah, is it possible, well, if Major Ed Daines, it's alarming what he said.
		I keep this April in my mind.
		What about the idea of he and you and all of us, with our energy, seeing if we can divert this catastrophe from the sun and let it go someplace else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I suppose if we view it as an otherwise inevitable event, that that would be one thing to consider doing.
unidentified		Yeah, because I don't like his alternative at all.
		I wanted to ask you one other thing, if I may.
		Sure.
		You know, I keep saying it's really good that you're back, and I really mean that.
		It's so good to have you back, initially, when you're gone.
		And I, for one, appreciate your honesty in telling us what you saw over there.
		We've got a lot of problems here.
		I could refer to like South Central LA and the problems that they have there.
		It just makes you appreciate this country.
		Like you, I've traveled in other parts of the world, and it's such a great feeling to get back to America.
		And all the more reason why we should be concerned about our leadership and all of our people and doing a better job than we have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're absolutely correct.
		What people conclude is I think because we've had such a long period of relative peace and calm that it can't happen here, put that in quotes.
		Well, it can happen here.
unidentified		Well, like you, I love our country and our people, too.
unidentified		I just hope this next millennium we can do a better job than we've done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good thing to hope for.
unidentified		Well, we love you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		That's a good thing to hope for.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Art, this is Stephen in Richmond, Virginia.
		How are you doing tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
unidentified		Good, good.
		I'm glad you made it back from South Africa.
		Maybe you better stay off those airplanes till we get this pigeon thing figured out, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if a bunch of 747s can't find their way home, we're going to have a definite problem.
unidentified		Two brief things.
		Earlier about the pizza boy with his little mind trick that he played, I wouldn't bring it up except for I see this all the time.
		And what it is, is it's simply a trick of resetting the context on a person where the idea is to draw you into the storyline or some aspect of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And have you looking at the shell on the left while the shell on the right is it?
unidentified		That's it, that's it.
		And to bum rush you with so much information and they switch the context on you, you can't tell what they did.
		So in his example, of course, the price of the pizza was not $30.
		It was $27 plus the $3 that he gave you back and the two in his pocket equals the $5 the manager gave him.
		So the only thing that he proved there was that it simply takes a little bit of time for an honest person to figure out what a dishonest person's trick has been played on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
unidentified		The second thing I want to say is I like to listen to your guests and kind of cross-reference them and see if I can find any of these phenomena that tend to drift over into other fields.
		And I was listening real intently one night to Richard Hoagland explaining the idea of hyperdimensional physics, which is something like they figured that the sun couldn't supply all the energy based on thermonuclear detonation alone.
		So they theorized that the planets revolving around the sun actually causes this tangential acceleration, this spinning action of the planets around the sun causes energy to be pulled out of a higher dimension somehow.
		Then I was listening a couple nights afterwards to it might have been somebody like Stan Deo, but they were talking about this thing that they'll see when they have a tornado and they'll find a little piece of straw stuck in a brick or stuck in a pane of glass.
		And I used to think that was just due to the incredible speed, but they said, no, it was different, that they theorized that it was somehow setting up a field where that piece of glass and that little straw could maintain the same space in time together.
		And I thought, boom, there it is.
		That's Richard Hoagland's hyperdimensional physics.
		Somehow the debris or the static charge of the electricity spinning for just a moment sets up a place where that piece of straw and that glass can occupy the same place at the same time.
		Kind of like remnants of Philadelphia experiment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And also this idea of the spinning action.
unidentified		remember arts parts uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		thank you I still have them.
unidentified		I think Ed Dames remote viewed them one time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And said that it was indeed a time travel event.
unidentified		Exactly.
		He said they weren't alien, but they were indeed man-made, and they were from the future when they were experimenting with this.
		He said that they were spinning and they popped out of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly correct.
		Yes, thank you very much.
		Listen, I have an announcement that I want to make.
		You may recall about a year ago, I told you that there was an event, a threatening, terrible event that occurred to my family, which I could not tell you about.
		Because of that event and a succession of other events, what you're listening to right now is my final broadcast on the air.
		This is it, folks.
		I'm going off the air and will not return.
		And what I will tell you right now is what I told you then.
		When the time comes when I can tell you what occurred, I will tell you, through the press, through the media of one sort or another, I will explain to you the entire thing.
		It's not that I want to hold anything back from my audience.
		However, for the protection of my family, until it is otherwise revealed, I can't discuss it.
		I won't discuss it.
		And if you were in my position, you would do exactly the same thing.
		And when you finally hear whatever it is, what it is, whenever you hear it, I think you will then understand.
		At any rate, I wanted to tell you, I didn't want to go without saying a word.
		So I'm telling You now, what you're listening to is my final broadcast.
		It's been a good one, and you've been a great audience, and it's been an absolutely incredible forum.
		And my presumption is that the forum will continue.
		At any rate, it certainly is my hope that the forum will continue.
		And again, when the time comes when this information can be released, you can be sure that I will release it.
		And I would assume because of the magnitude of the forum that I have held at that time that you'll get the whole story.
		But the time will come when I'll tell it.
		So, for now, and for the foreseeable future, that's it.
		That is the end of this man's broadcast career.

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