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Oct. 12, 1998 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines. Art's Retirement Announcement
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Thank you very much.
By giving his date of birth and that sort of information, it sounds like you're looking for a reading on this person.
And remote viewing doesn't exactly do that, though I suppose you could remote view a specific person's future and make that kind of determination.
I'm not sure.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, George.
Hey, I just had one thing I wanted to put out to your listeners out there.
It's sort of a primer, an old, old book.
The Study of the Paranormal, the Supernatural, and the Occult.
Have you ever heard of it?
No, I don't know.
Old book by Colin Watson back in the 70s.
But it's the best reference book for the whole thing you deal with.
And the other thing, the guy you had on... You didn't name the book?
Yes, it's called The Study of the Paranormal.
Oh, I see.
Supernatural.
I see.
That is the title.
That is the title of the book.
Okay.
Yeah, it does the whole history.
The whole history from that point back.
And it's very well referenced.
It would give you the name of probably every book that was ever written on it in history.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, what I want to ask you about was the gentleman you had on, the two gentlemen who were talking about the fourth dimension.
That they believe that physics is getting to the point where they can prove it?
Yes.
Okay.
Have you ever heard of Gary Zukav?
No.
Okay.
The Dancing Lee Masters.
Now, he, I believe, is a professor, or was a professor, out at Berkeley.
And this book, this was years ago.
I haven't been in this subject matter for years.
It's really, you've brought me back to it.
They sort of, or he sort of both came to the conclusion, I don't believe he was actually a physics professor, but this is a layman's book on the concept that physics can, today even, or at that point, prove that there not only is a fourth dimension, but that really anything is possible.
Alright, well I don't think there's been actual proof of it yet, and I think that the reference to other dimensions It's generally made by people of the caliber of Dr. Michio Kaku, and you've got to remember, these are theoretical physicists.
Not that there is any specific proof, but that these are theories, and I'm not familiar with any absolute proof that there is such a thing as any dimension beyond the third.
If you ask my personal point of view, I would have to say I believe there is.
Well, for those of you who, uh, leave us at this hour, uh, goodbye.
So you think you know me though, say goodbye to your picture, take the long way home now, take the long way home
now.
Do the jokes of the neighborhood, or should you care if you're being good, take the long way home, take the long way home.
There are times when you feel you're part of the reason, oh the reason, and now it's gone. Then you watch it sink to
water's surface, oh it's in the air, you can see it all the time.
Lonely days turn to lonely nights, you take a trip to the city now, take the long way, take the long way home.
You never see what you want to see, never think who's got a use, take the long way, take the long way home.
I hear a conversation with all the ones who leave at home.
Oh, you'll never know.
I'll say it's all a few.
Oh, you'll never know I say it's all for you
And what is the danger Of a man like you?
Oh, for a man like me It's a cold way out
Oh, yeah It's a cold way out
I'm a girl who's in love I'm a girl who's in love
Let your love be magical Let it catch your feet
Oh, yeah I'm a girl who's in love
Oh, it has to be Let it be a girl or a boy
When the other will be here To see what you're gonna do
Oh, what's it might be If you would have more time
When the day comes to turn around Who's to blame if you're not around
Get the long way, get the long way Get the long way, get the long way
Get the long way, get the long way Get the long way, get the long way
When it's all right, it's coming along We gotta get it right, let's get it when the sun is gone
Love is good, love can be strong We gotta get it right, let's get it when the sun is gone
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This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
Now again, here's Art.
Once again, here I am.
Things rarely, if ever, and I think possibly never, go back to where they began.
Right?
Anyway, good morning from the high deserts.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Hey Eric, how are you doing?
I'm doing okay.
I have a question for you, actually, two comments.
Alright.
First one is, I'm really confused on that dollar thing.
I know It was kind of long-winded, but it's really bothering me, and I don't quite understand how that's possible.
Me either.
I run it through my head like tons of times, and so if anybody has an answer out there... Well, I thought that it was a convoluted mess, and that it did not prove that two and two every day of the week, every month, do not equal four.
But it was interesting.
It was kind of... I thought it was going to have an interesting story about a time machine myself, but...
I don't think it has anything to do with credibility.
How about Ed Dames?
I've been listening to your show for a couple of months now and I've noticed that when I've
been listening anyway, not one of your guests hasn't had a book out.
I don't think it has anything to do with credibility.
How about Ed Dames?
Ed Dames had one, didn't he?
No.
Didn't he?
No.
Didn't he have any kind of published thing or articles or anything like that?
Not that I know of.
Okay, well, how about, say, 90%?
Okay.
85%.
Alright.
That is usual.
I understand, but I'm just wondering if that's... It seems to me that they're advertising their book.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I find it's a moneymaker.
Absolutely.
I'm wondering if it's not.
If, for example, I had something like, you know, if I had an energy source, an over-optimum energy source, I would be sort of going to the public, going to the media, and saying, hey, here it is.
And if I really had it, and it was really blatantly obvious, like some of these people are claiming, that they would actually... Well, I have not yet seen one that is blatantly obvious.
Oh, I understand.
Have you?
No, I haven't.
But just in general, like I'm just saying that's an example.
Uh, like, for example, the UFOs.
I mean, everybody's seen them, but the media's not doing anything.
People have books out, and they sell.
Yes.
And I'm just wondering if that's not... Every time I hear, like, does this person have a book?
Yes, this person has a book.
People from NASA, you had on probably a couple weeks ago, had books.
Yes.
And I'm just... It makes me a little skeptical because I think, well, It seems that their main concern, or one of their main concerns, is making money off of it.
Whereas if it was genuine and the world was going to end, money wouldn't matter much.
Well, whether it's about the world ending, or it's about Bill Clinton's sex life, or it's about how ants meet in the wild, when you write a book, what you've got to do is get out there and try and sell it.
And the object indeed is to make money and to disperse information.
So it's a common, obvious thing that people who come on talk shows frequently have books to sell.
I understand that, and I can see.
That's why I think websites are really good.
But I just, I've noticed that maybe I've got it the wrong way.
I think I'll grab another book.
Because there seems to be so many books.
Well, you know, you always have a choice.
You don't have to buy it.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
Some of the things are so amazing, and I'm not saying, I'm not, you know, smashing their credibility or anything, because I think that some of the people really have something to say.
Well, yeah, that's exactly it.
In other words, the fact that they're selling a book doesn't make them either more or less credible.
You might say, I suppose, that if somebody comes on with information and does not have a book, well, Ed Dames, for example, a lot of people complain about him.
I think Ed Dames is great.
You think he's great, huh?
I think he puts When he was on, he put a very, very credible... He had his facts straight.
How about Sean David Morton?
Sean David Morton?
Absolutely.
I don't think he's written a book either.
I think he has.
What is the name of that?
I don't remember it off my head.
I don't either.
I know he has a newsletter.
Delphi Associates, yes.
I think that's great, because that's something that's He's in the public, and he's not necessarily making money.
I think he was saying, indeed, that he was actually lucky to break even.
I think he shows real character, because he's really trying to get himself heard.
So mostly, then, the people that you don't like are the ones that are selling books that you disagree with?
No, no, no.
Not at all.
I don't not like them.
Give me an example of somebody that you think is just in it for the money.
Whitley Strieber.
Whitley Strieber.
He seemed to me, I mean, it seemed to me like he was pushing his book a lot.
And I know people call him and he's like, well, this isn't my book.
This is my book.
So I got my book.
Whereas if it was me this was happening to, I'd be saying, well, here it is for you.
You don't know that you might not have the money.
Here you go.
Well, I don't know.
I really hardly know anybody who does that.
For those of you who don't have the money, here you go.
I don't mean to.
I'm not saying that I don't believe these people.
I'm questioning that it seems that they're wanting to make money just as much as they're wanting to have their stories heard and said.
And if it was me that had seen these things, experienced these things... Well, I'll tell you this.
Since you mentioned Whitley, he's a friend of mine, a personal friend, and I've had private conversations with him.
uh... over a long span of time and as a matter of fact whitley it's interesting you should mention whitley because he wrote uh... communion and then a series of books since and uh... he literally uh... faced bankruptcy i mean bankruptcy uh... had no money at all after uh... writing a bestseller And wrote that book because he was compelled to write it.
And in conversation with him privately, he's everything that he seems to be in public.
In other words, as I talk to him privately, he is passionate about the subject material that ended up in that book, the experiences that he had that resulted in the writing of Communion and so forth.
So I know that for a fact from him privately.
Okay.
Well, I wasn't in that conversation, so I can't comment.
No, you've only heard what he's done on the air.
Exactly.
The reason I'm saying, he came to my mind because I called and I said, I asked him a question and he's like, well, it's in my book.
Ah.
And he didn't, he didn't, I mean, I went and looked at it and since then found the answer to my question, but I just remember thinking, well, hold on a sec.
Like, not that I don't believe him, but I thought that it would be, he was saying... He usually answers questions.
There are times, though, when a question would require such a complicated answer
and you know you you do you have several chapters laid out in a book that you
just say that or maybe you want to sell books i don't know or really both
i think i'm interested in a moment when the department of evidence something
that well i'd like to know what my thoughts are
that people who write books go on talk shows to uh...
to to uh...
so books and then you think that
that that's not a problem that's not no i don't think that's not a problem for me
because it will probably to get guests interesting guests who have written
books on controversial matters Okay, like Forbidden Archaeology.
Yeah.
I think that's really, really good, because in a situation like that, you can't possibly... Well, I remember Michael Cremo, right?
Okay, I remember several times during the show with Michael, Uh, when he said to a caller, you'll have to read my book.
But he did explain it.
He explained it very, very well, I found.
But there were several times, several callers who got responded to in that manner.
Yes.
and and that's you know i i understand that i think uh... it's hard to put my finger exactly on on what i mean
but but he seemed like he was
his attitude was more genuine it was the whole kit is a m ron alright i i i appreciate your call
sir uh... thank you uh... his attitude was more genuine
I think that it goes back to what I said a moment ago, and that is that you object to those people that you do not find credible who are selling books.
Those that you personally find credible that are selling books, that's okay.
If a person makes reference or gives an answer to a question that basically is i'm sorry you have to read
my book if you think that person is not credible
then you think they're just uh... huckster selling books
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East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Boy, sure glad you made it back for some live shows.
How about that, huh?
The reruns are good, but live you're really current and I'm really... Live is better.
I wanted to... your problems with the pigeons.
We're just in the... Let's rephrase that.
They're not my problems.
They are our problems.
Our problems.
Well, we're in the process of watching the geese stage to go south.
It'll be interesting to see if the geese have a problem, then we really have a problem.
Well, I'm from Winnipeg and there are millions of them around here.
And the only slight difference I've noticed is that they seem to be in a bit smaller groups staging.
So they may be later in their staging process, because as they get further along their staging process, they get into bigger groups.
But the incredible number, they're mostly snow geese, and when they're young, they're They're called blues because they're not all white, they're blue.
But the incredible number of blues is just... I've never seen the like of it.
There aren't very many adults, it seems, but there are incredible numbers of blues.
If anybody wants to watch the Geese, I'd suggest they do it with an umbrella because we're sending down millions and millions and millions of them, way more than we ever had.
Can I say something about your president?
Oh, sure.
He's been doing a real good job on his foreign policy in spite of the fact that he's got his hands full here.
He's got Iran fairly well tamed down.
He's got Great Britain take care of her.
He's keeping an eye on Afghanistan, that terrorist then.
He's keeping an eye on China.
I think he's feeding India a little bit of help.
In case China gets out of hand, they're right on the same borders, you know.
And I'd like to commend a law that we have in Canada, in our Constitution, which is that our Prime Minister, nor any Member of Parliament, which is similar to your Congress, can be sued civilly while the House is sitting.
Now that's not exactly... Well, but you have a different mechanism up there.
You have a parliamentary system in which A vote of confidence can be taken.
In other words, you have an alternative method for removal from office in between elections.
Correct.
Our prime minister is actually a member of the parliament, which is different.
Your president has to be invited into Congress to talk, doesn't he?
That's right.
Yeah, basically.
Well, there is a constitutional mandate for the State of the Union, but otherwise, yeah.
Well, so what I'm saying essentially is that we can't tie up our prime minister in a civil litigation when he's busy doing The state business.
And I commend that as a good idea for your... Again though, even your prime minister is not above the law.
Criminal law.
Criminal law, right.
While he's tied up doing state business, he is above the civil law.
You have to wait.
It's just that you have to wait, if you want to assume.
And if that had been in place, With Paula Jones.
Well, the problem here may be, with regard to the Ken Starr investigation, that there are allegations of violations of criminal law.
Perjury, suborning to perjury, witness tampering, blah blah.
Yes, I agree, and it's pretty tragic that the normal reaction of a guy I'm being asked if he's committed adultery and when he's in front of his wife, which is what your president was, he's going to say no and my heart goes out to their daughter.
I mean, I just... I know.
I just... I couldn't agree more.
Tragic.
Tragic is correct.
I couldn't agree more.
It really is tragic.
And I agree with him with respect to Chelsea.
I heard some complete Ass, the other day, continuing to jump on Chelsea.
And I just, you know, I guess I just don't see how people go there.
And I think that this is a tragedy, and if we go through an impeachment, it's going to be a tragedy for the whole country.
That's my view and my take on this.
But I am not immune to the argument that there are allegations of criminal activity here.
It may all be born of the difficulty with the women.
Certainly no question about that, but... All things considered, for those who are able to separate what the President did privately, or even what grew from that, from his actual performance as President, I really think that you've got to give him some marks, but politically people don't do that.
They have great hatreds that they hold on to very, very dearly.
Here's my gal.
This is Crystal.
I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
Don't make your blue eyes and brown eyes turn blue.
Don't know where I've been so blue.
Don't know what I've done over you.
You found someone new.
And don't I make my brown eyes turn blue.
You've got to admit that is a voice.
I'll be gone when you're gone.
And the price of that noise.
You Tell me no secrets.
Tell me some lies.
Give me no reason.
Give me alibi.
Tell me some lies, give me no reason, give me all about it Tell me no need, and don't let me try
Say anything, but don't say goodbye I didn't mean to treat you bad
You know, that's what I have But if I'm not you
I'm gonna make my grandma die Don't make my brown eyes, don't make my brown eyes blue
Don't make my brown eyes, don't make my brown eyes blue Don't make my brown eyes, don't make my brown eyes blue
Ooh, ooh It's been a too long time with no peace of mind
And I'm ready for the time to get better Don't make my brown eyes, don't make my brown eyes blue
I've got to tell you I've been racking my brain Hoping to find a way out I've had enough of this continual rain Changes are coming, no doubt It's been all too long time with no peace of mind
And I'm ready for the time to get better You seem to want from me what I cannot give
I feel so alone from my time I have a dream that I wish I could live
It's burning holes in my mind It's been all too long time with no peace of mind
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I've seen trees of green, red and blue, I've seen them bloom for years,
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
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I see friends standing out, standing out in the crowd.
They're really saying, I'm the one.
I hear babies crying, I watch them grow.
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Good morning everybody.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
And I'm Art Miller.
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All right, back to the lines we go.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Good morning, Mr. Bell.
Hi there.
This is Mike in Phoenix.
Hi, Mike.
I heard something that you said earlier about the Auroras.
Yes.
Well, I had an old story transported to me from my grandmother.
She's since dead.
Before World War I, there was a similar action of that going on.
Does that have anything to say about any kind of military conflict going on in relation to this, or that this could be a side-off?
No, not that I'm aware of.
This is an event on the sun.
It's what's going on with our sun.
Now, whether this solar cycle turns out to be any greater or lesser or more tragic or leads to some sort of polar reversal or whatever I have no way of knowing.
But we are in the ascension portion of cycle 23 and these geomagnetic storms are normal.
They're a little vicious for as early in the cycle as we are.
That's about all I can tell you from my own personal knowledge.
My grandmother used to relate that something to do with Fatima had It was a warning that was given.
Well, it was a documentary.
There have been, oh yes, there have been warnings.
Now you're into the religious aspect of three days of darkness and all kinds of things.
Oh, that stuff, yes.
Oh, yes.
Well, thank you very much.
Okay, my friend.
Thank you.
Take care.
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
I'm calling about the guy who called earlier about his apocalyptic vision of Washington, D.C.
Oh, yes, that sort of 10 or 15 second flashback.
Yes.
And I don't mean to be a naysayer, but I'm suggesting that he got that vision from a movie called Logan's Run, where they come out and see Washington, specifically Washington with weeds overgrown and a desert town, and the only person left in Washington is Peter Ustinov with his cat.
Well, that could be.
Uh-huh.
Anyway, it's one of the... That could be, but Hollywood frequently either precedes or post-event does something on reality, so... Exactly.
Well, yeah, in just that they had the vision first, I think, so... That could be.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Take care.
All right.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes.
Good evening, Art.
Good evening to you.
I'm calling regarding your trip to South Africa.
Yes.
I was born there, sir, and left at 13.
You were born where?
In South Africa.
Okay.
And when I was a child, my mother asked our maid in Johannesburg, I was born in Cape Town, moved all over, would you, if there was an uprising, hurt the children, me, my sister, little brother, and I?
And she said, oh no, Missy, I would cut their throats in their sleep.
I wouldn't hurt them.
And that was the reason that my parents decided to move.
They were British.
Mm-hmm.
And my friends that are still there, and people that have come recently, tell me the most gosh-awful stories about that it is absolutely taking one's life and one's... Oh, yeah.
It is.
But it's not racial.
No, sir.
It's really not racial.
It's just plain, old-fashioned crime.
And very serious crime.
It's gangs, you know.
That's right.
It's black on black, black on white.
You name it.
It's a mixture of whoever's got the bucks that you can hit on the head.
If people try to turn it into something racial, it's not.
It's just crime.
My father did investment banking and it was all over Africa.
And Nigeria was so bad that in the harbors you had to have armed guards on your ships with AK-47s.
And most of Africa now is just basically invisible.
No, you're quite correct.
And it was some danger in doing what we did.
We were well protected.
Well, I would have, you know, certainly told you not to go because I think you're wonderful.
And I'm very glad you got back safely.
I appreciate it, sir.
Thank you.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Did you get the answer to the 2 plus 2 doesn't equal 4 little word problem?
Well, no.
He ran me through the hoops there.
I was unable to discern from his story how that meant 2 plus 2 does not equal 4 every day of the week.
Well, he was misstating in a way that meant to mislead of course.
The $3 he gave him back would have made the $27 that it costed him $30.
The $2 that he kept would have made it cost the $25 it really should have cost.
And that's an old trick.
Yeah, I remember that from the past somewhere.
I mean, I know I've heard that one before.
Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to figure it out on myself if I hadn't heard it before.
Anyway, after hearing that arduous presentation, I was disinclined to stick around for his time machine.
Well, that was kind of on the subject of free energy and zero-point energy and so on and so forth.
I've got a suggestion for a guest, if you would entertain it.
I always will entertain.
Okay, well, there's a man named Don Lancaster, and he writes a column called Tech Musings in Electronics Now Magazine.
And he frequently writes on the subject of measuring errors that people that have these zero-point energy sources and so on make.
It makes a lot of sense, and it might be interesting to have him on, just as it's interesting, say, to have Dr. Kaku.
I'm always happy to consider anybody.
Would you like his email address?
Um, not on the air.
Oh, okay.
Alright.
Okay, and could I say one other thing?
Yes.
Okay, it is possible for an atheist to believe in God.
We had a discussion on this before you went to South Africa.
My dictionary, in fact, does say that a synonym for atheist is a deist, and also the synonym How can that be?
is an atheist and that was the point I was trying to make and just try to show people
that have a well developed, what is it, God module or whatever?
The God part of the brain.
Yeah, that they could overcome that just as I have because I really do believe I have
a well developed sense of the holy and so forth but I am an atheist.
How can that be?
Or how can you have a sense of a creator and be an atheist?
Not a creator but a God.
I think God happened just like everything else did.
You have this thing built into you.
I pointed to the idea that you have to take a lot of things on faith because that's how our mind works and filters the inputs, so it's a natural thing for us to do.
If you can be a deist and say, well, yeah, there might be, you know, I can say there was a God out there, but he doesn't matter, you short-circuit all these people who want to tell you, if you believe in God, you've got to do this.
So you're saying there might be a God?
Well, I would, quite frankly, or I would extrapolate from what I know and say that it's almost a certainty that out there somewhere there's got to be someone that knows, some being that knows so much I would say that if knowledge gets to that point, and it's
probably not that unthinkably far above us, that you have essentially what might be God.
What type would that be?
Type 2 in the types of societies, things that were rated as type 0?
No, I don't think so.
Type 2 or Type 3, whatever?
Maybe Type 3 or 4 and go on from there, somewhere.
Okay, Type 5, and out of the Type 5 people, if there are individuals at that level... Civilizations, yes.
There's got to be one individual who's so far above all of his peers that he's almost God-like himself, like they're Christ, okay?
their christian like christ would be uh... critics exceptional individual
christ or or mohammed or or
whoever to us uh... what makes you think
christ would not be as much of a god-like figure uh... to an advanced
civilization as he was too hours two thousand years ago
well that's just the assumption i'm making our proper process
Well, if it's just an assumption, then you, my friend, are not an atheist.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Mr. Bell!
Yes, sir.
Oh, it's so good to have you back, sir.
Thank you.
Before I ask, I've got a few things here you might be interested in, but first I'd like to ask you, since you got back, have you been able to check to see how Father Martin's doing?
Since I've returned, no.
Just prior to leaving, yes.
Well, just a couple of quick things I wanted to ask you.
I think that would be about a week old.
Last week he was doing okay.
Recovering, had recovered I believe most of the feeling on his right side with the exception
of his right leg.
Like you, many of us love him too.
Indeed, and all wish him well and prayers for him would be in order.
Just a couple of quick things I wanted to ask you.
You're going to have Ed Daines on again shortly.
What I said was that Ed Daines sent me a fax and said that he had additional information
that he wanted to get on the air.
Bye.
Well, you remember a few times you asked all of us to place our energy together to see if we can change an event or add to it?
I did.
Yeah, is it possible?
Well, Major Ed Dain, it's alarming what he said.
I keep this April in my mind.
What about the idea that he and you and all of us with our energy seeing if we can divert this catastrophe
from the sun and let it go someplace else um i suppose if we view it as uh an otherwise
inevitable event that that would be one thing to consider doing
Yeah, because I don't like this alternative at all.
I wanted to ask you one other thing, if I may.
You know, I keep saying it's really good that you're back, and I really mean that.
It's so good to have you back in Michigan when you're gone.
And I, for one, appreciate your honesty in telling us what you saw over there.
We've got a lot of problems here.
I could refer to, like, South Central LA and the problems that they have there.
It just makes you appreciate this country.
Like you, I've traveled in other parts of the world.
And it's such a great feeling to get back to America and all the more reason why we should be concerned about our leadership and all of our people and doing a better job.
Well, you're absolutely correct.
What people conclude is, I think, because we've had such a long period of relative peace and calm, that it can't happen here.
Put that in quotes.
Well, it can happen here.
Like you, I love our country and our people, too.
I just hope this next millennium we can do a better job than we've done.
That's a good thing to hope for.
Well, we love you.
Take care.
That's a good thing to hope for.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Art, this is Stephen in Richmond, Virginia.
How are you doing tonight?
Just fine.
Good, good.
I'm glad you made it back from South Africa.
Maybe you better stay off those airplanes until we get this pigeon thing figured out, huh?
Yeah, if a bunch of 747s can't find their way home, we're going to have a definite problem.
Two brief things.
Earlier about the pizza boy with his little mind trick that he played, I wouldn't bring it up except for I see this all the time and what it is is simply a trick of resetting the context on a person.
The idea is to draw you into the storyline or some aspect of it.
And have you looking at the show on the left while the show on the right is?
That's it.
That's it.
And to bum rush you with so much information, when they switch the context on you, you can't tell what they did.
In his example, of course, the price of the pizza was not $30, it was $27, plus the three that he gave you back and the two in his pocket equals the five the manager gave him.
So the only thing that he proved there was that It simply takes a little bit of time for an honest person to figure out what a dishonest person's trick has been played on.
Well, that's right.
The second thing I want to say is I like to listen to your guests and kind of cross-reference them and see if I can find any of these phenomena that tend to drift over into other fields.
And I was listening real intently one night to Richard Hoagland explaining hyperdimensional, the idea of hyperdimensional physics, which is something like They figure that the sun couldn't supply all the energy based on thermonuclear detonation alone, so they theorized that the planets revolving around the sun actually causes this tangential acceleration, this spinning action of the planets around the sun, causes energy to be pulled out of a higher dimension somehow.
Then I was listening a couple nights afterwards to, it might have been somebody like Stan Dale, They're talking about this thing that they'll see when they have a tornado and they'll find a little piece of straw stuck in a brick or stuck in a pane of glass.
And I used to think that was just due to the incredible speed, but they said no, it was different.
They theorized that it was somehow setting up a field where that piece of glass and that little straw could maintain the same space and time together.
I thought, boom, there it is.
That's Richard Hogan's hyperdimensional physics.
Somehow the debris or the static charge of the electricity spinning for just a moment sets up a place where that piece of straw and that glass can occupy the same place at the same time.
Kind of like the remnants of the Philadelphia Experiment.
Sure.
And also this idea of the spinning action.
Remember Arts Parts?
I think Ed Baines.
Do I remember them?
I still have them.
I think Ed Baines remote-viewed them one time and said that they were, uh, it was indeed a time travel event.
Exactly.
He said they weren't alien, but they were indeed man-made and they were from the future when they were experimenting with this.
He said that they were spinning and they popped out of time.
That's exactly correct.
Yes.
Thank you very much.
Listen, I have an announcement that I want to make.
You may recall about a year ago, i told you that there was an event uh... threatening
terrible event that occurred to
on my family which i could not tell you about
uh...
because of that event and a succession of other events what you're listening to right now
is my final broadcast on the air here.
This is it, folks.
I'm going off the air and uh... and and will not return and what i will tell you right now is what i told you then when the time comes when i can tell you what occurred i will tell you through the uh... the press uh... through the media of one sort or another i will explain to you the entire thing it's not that i want to hold anything back From my audience.
However, for the protection of my family, until it is otherwise revealed, I can't discuss it.
I won't discuss it.
And if you were in my position, you would do exactly the same thing.
And when you finally hear whatever it is, or what it is, whenever you hear it, I think you will then understand.
At any rate, I wanted to tell you, I didn't want to go without saying a word, so I'm telling you now.
What you're listening to is my final broadcast.
It's been a good one, and you've been a great audience, and it's been an absolutely incredible forum.
And my presumption is that the forum will continue.
At any rate, it certainly is my hope That the forum will continue.
And again, when the time comes, when this information can be released, you can be sure that I will release it.
And I would assume, because of the magnitude of the forum that I have held at that time, that you'll get the whole story.
But the time will come when I'll tell it.
So, for now, and for the foreseeable future, That's it.
That is the end of this man's broadcast career.
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