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May 12, 1998 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Bangor UFO - Peter Davenport - Open Lines
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Welcome to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 12th, 1998.
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be in your time zone, wherever that is, from the Hawaiian and Asian island chains out west, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S.
Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the pole, and worldwide on the Internet, this is Coast to Coast AM.
Hello there.
Everybody.
We're going to do open lines tonight.
Now we are going to have Peter Davenport with some late breaking news about that incident over the state of Washington the other day.
Oh, it's getting weird.
And I would like to take this opportunity.
No, I'm wrong.
Let me do that next hour.
I'll take that opportunity next hour.
Right now what I would like to do is Read the first item of news, and then announce something that's going to be coming up at the bottom of the hour.
Lawmakers chastise U.S.
intelligence agencies Tuesday for what one committee chairman called, quote, a colossal failure, end quote, in not warning about India's nuclear tests.
A U.S.
spy satellite picked up activity at India's test site last week, according to the Washington Post.
Now, that's interesting.
Clear-cut evidence by satellite of preparations were recorded at midnight on Sunday, six hours before the blasts.
The U.S.
analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep.
One senior official said, speaking anonymously, they were all asleep.
This reminds me of the probable kind of announcement they made after Pearl Harbor, huh?
Well, at the time of the attack, you know, it was Sunday, and people were in church, and people were out of pocket, and we couldn't get a hold of anybody, and blah, blah, blah.
It was kind of like that, huh?
Anyway, India let loose with a couple of very serious, actually three, I guess, nuclear detonations.
The shockwave of these detonations goes far beyond that measured on anybody's Richter scale meter.
The first and most obvious problem is Pakistan, which itself may have a nuclear device, and we're waiting to see now how they will respond to that.
Pakistan may feel obliged to launch a rocket To demonstrate the capability of delivery, or they may even detonate their own nuclear device.
China certainly may feel forced to respond by testing a nuclear device.
It's sort of a national level, hey, if you got one, we got one kind of deal.
And if you don't do it, then you might be inviting Disaster.
And this whole thing may be inviting disaster.
And oh, we all went to sleep and thought the nuclear problems were over, right?
The Cold War was over and the wall came tumbling down and all of that.
Surprise, surprise, here we are again.
If a nuclear exchange began, A regional nuclear exchange.
Don't be so sure that it could be stopped at that.
There might be involvement of China suddenly.
The Russians seeing the involvement of China of course would get very nervous and I don't have to draw you a big long picture of this one do I?
So this is very serious news and again Let me read you this line.
It, of course, is the lead story everywhere now.
The U.S.
analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep, one senior official speaking anonymously to the newspaper.
And so how well will you sleep tonight?
It was at least two or three months ago that I received from a source that I am not going
to divulge because he'd lose his job, two photographs that I consider to be really,
really worrisome.
And that isn't to say that I may know what I'm talking about.
Bye.
But I think I do.
And without comment, I think toward the bottom of the hour, not yet, not yet, toward the bottom of the hour, we're going to post these photographs on the internet.
And I'm going to ask you what they are.
I know I have a lot of experts out there in high altitude and satellite imagery.
And I'm going to ask those experts to take a look at these photographs and tell me what it is we're seeing.
May be nothing to worry about or it may be.
And I told my source if I had not heard from him in an appropriate amount of time I would post the photographs because I considered it potentially way too important Potentially not to post.
So it may be nothing or it may be something.
You tell me.
Let's see what else is going on.
The US and Russia have reached a tentative agreement on a Security Council statement outlining conditions for scaling back nuclear inspections in Iraq.
The International Atomic Energy Agency concludes Iraq has answered all outstanding questions regarding its nuclear program.
And, uh, so the council could endorse a shift from wide-ranging inspections to ongoing monitoring and surveillance of Iraqi nuclear facilities.
Well, my God, we gave them enough time to get those things hidden if they have them.
We, we really got snookered.
By Iraq.
The UN did.
And it's a joke.
And I don't mean to say that the UN inspectors are a joke.
They're not.
But the politics of how it all came down, that's all a joke.
And Iraq could have anything, anywhere.
Who's kidding who?
This now from the UN.
You know, on a day when we found out that while India tested three nuclear devices, Officials responsible for watching all this were sound asleep.
Oh, deep impact, huh?
Police discovered more than 30 human skulls.
This is now with Reuters now.
Reuters, alright?
30 human skulls in a cave in a Mexico City park Tuesday after a shootout with a man who said there were more bodies buried nearby.
One of the caves was lined with human An animal bones and more than 30 human skulls, all of them at least 10 years old.
An arrested man told investigators he and his friends used the caves to rape women and that four women's bodies were buried in a nearby cave.
I'll leave that one without comment.
Again, I want to be very careful about what I say here.
And I would be glad to have some information on what I'm going to say, but I believe that scientists, astronomers, have detected a new comet emerging from behind the sun.
Now, I don't know a lot about it just yet, but I would like to know more.
I understand that in southern latitudes the rumor is this comet may be bright enough to view during the daytime.
During the daytime?
So, I don't know a lot more about it.
Alan, I saw a remark attributed to Alan Hale regarding this and had I, if I'd had the time I would have I would have surely called Alan and tried to get him on the air tonight to tell us what's going on out there, but there is a nuke, apparently, is a new comet.
I understand that there are people within the armed forces now that are reporting, the Army Times is apparently reporting, that in fact the Gulf War Syndrome, whatever the hell it is, is real.
And the Army Times says there is no cure for Gulf War illness.
In what appears to be a complete reversal of military policy, the Army Times reported in its May 4th edition that the Gulf War illness not only exists, but that it is possibly communicable, and that there is, quote, no cure for the illness at this time.
End quote.
Since the first reports of illness suffered by Gulf War veterans, the Pentagon and the Department of Defense, of course, have continued to deny even the existence of it and attributed these maladies to post-traumatic stress disorder.
Now, as you well know, this is what Joyce Riley was saying well over a year ago on this program.
Maybe a year and a half ago?
She said, uh, you better, uh, face up to it, folks.
It's communicable.
Looks like she's right.
And no fix for it as of yet.
Hey, Art, in case you haven't seen this one, uh, the following from the Denver Post, Sunday, May 10th, boy 5, 5 years of age, arrested over gun threats.
Memphis, Tennessee, 5-year-old Kindergarten pupil was arrested after bringing a loaded pistol to school because he wanted to kill his teacher for punishing him with timeout.
Timeout is a form of discipline for young children.
They put them in a corner or they've got these little timeout closets and they might put them in there.
And so this little five-year-old was going to Take the .25 caliber automatic and put a bullet through his teacher's head.
In a moment, I've got something that has been submitted to us that I want you to hear.
Remember that?
We had the words to a song.
We had no song.
We had no melody, it was suggested.
digits for a date?
Well, I've got my first good submission, and I'll play it for you here in a minute.
It's all about the Y2K problem.
Alright, Sean Mullin, I believe of Venice, California, submitted the following.
We just gave him the words.
They're up on the website right now.
Somebody wrote sort of a little poem or a little love
whatever it is you write when you write something to be sung
it's called two digits for a date and it's done to the tune of gilligan's island that is what
was suggested up on the website and sure enough
uh... this talented uh... sean mullen from uh...
venice california came up with the following it's all about the y2k
problem listen closely uh... this is sean mullen and
The doom that is our fate That started when programmers used two digits for a date.
Two digits for a date.
My memory was swollen and our disks were smaller, too.
Four digits are extravagant, so let's get by with two.
Yes, let's get by with two.
This works from 1999, the programmers did say.
Unless we rewrite before that, we'll all go away.
So all will go away.
Our world is at the base of the sea.
But management had not the clue.
It works fine now, you bet.
A rewrite is a straight expense.
We won't do that just yet.
We won't do that just yet.
Now when two thousand rolls around, it all goes straight to, oh well.
With zeros less than ninety-nine, as anyone can tell.
Yes, anyone can tell.
The mail won't bring your pension check It won't be sent to you When you're no longer 68 But minus 32 You'll be minus 32 The problems we're about to face are frightening for sure.
And beating every line of cause is the only certain cure.
It's the only certain cure.
Oh no, oh no, oh no.
There's not much time, there's too much code, and codeball coders fear.
When the century is finished with, we may be finished, too.
We may be finished, too.
We may be finished, too.
That's Sean Mullen of Venice, California.
Two digits for a date.
From now I hope that things weren't left too late.
And people are benefiting, four digits for a date. Four digits for a date.
Alright.
All right, everything's up on the website.
We've got two new things, actually three, that you've got to see.
Possibly a satellite image, an airborne image of something.
You tell me what it is, please.
And of course, an artist's rendering of the Bangor, Maine... Bangor, Maine.
The Bangor, Washington UFO.
Peter Davenport will be talking to us about that at the top of the hour on the website now.
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Alright, good morning everybody.
This one comes under the category of, oh what the hell, you only live once.
It was two months ago that I received two very, very disturbing photographs from a source outside this country.
I'm no expert, but notice how I always have to pause.
When they stop, I have to stop.
Anyway, again, I'm no expert, so I'm not sure what I'm seeing.
I want people who are used to seeing aerial or satellite photography to go to my website.
I told this source that I would wait a reasonable amount of time and gave him a couple of different opportunities to respond and tell me not to do it.
I have destroyed the original information that came with these photographs to protect my source.
And there's nothing else I can do.
So I have now posted these photographs.
If you go to my website, it's under the category, it'll say right under the latest news and updates, what is this?
And you can click on that.
Or that, and you can click on that.
Satellite image, question mark.
And I've thought very hard about this, it's just not something that I can sit on forever and I'm not gonna.
And it may well be that I'm worried over nothing, but I don't think so.
I think I'm worried over something.
So those of you who are used to looking at these kind of images, would you please go take a look at that and tell me what it is that I'm seeing?
Fax me.
Call me.
Mail me.
Tell me.
Get to me one way or the other.
Maybe as the program goes on this morning, we're going to mainly be in open lines.
Maybe I'll just open a line for anybody out there who knows what this is.
All right, and then there's one other thing up on the current website that you need to see.
It relates to something coming up next hour with Peter Davenport from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington.
Remember he told the story of the Bangor UFO that apparently hovered over some of our assets?
Well, there are some interesting developments.
Also, there is an artist rendering on my website right now of what this thing looks like to a witness and we just got that up as usual along with these other two images like about 30 I don't know about 30 minutes before air time and so here it is oh how interesting I'm looking at it myself this is what an artist rendering of the object looks like
And of course, we have, in fact, maybe we'll repeat them, quite a number of eyewitness reports seeing this same object.
So this will give those of you who saw it an opportunity to go up there and say, hey, that's what I saw.
Or not.
Anyway, the military would seem to be changing its story, and we'll have Peter Davenport, but you can go see the image right now.
And I hope that Peter will have an opportunity to go up Are you listening, Peter?
and see the images that I have put up there after much anguish over it
a lot of anguish over it so that's what's going on and it's going to be a
heavy night on the website the address if you don't know it is
www.artbell.com www.artbell.com
I'm probably going to get a visit over this
and if that's the case then so be it Thank you.
Okay.
But I don't know, in my spot, I mean, what the hell else do you do with something like this, huh?
Well, all right.
Um, let's go to open line.
Oh, there is one story.
I just got in.
A 57-year-old woman, walking her dog, was knocked to the ground and attacked by two Canadian geese.
Really?
Carol Lee Olds' face was swollen and bruised as a result of her encounter with the wild birds.
She had, get this, just sounds like something out of a Hitchcock movie, two black eyes, a three-inch scratch down her cheek, and suffered a concussion, perhaps from the fall.
She was on a walkway with her dog Friday when she saw the birds.
With goslings on a lawn about ten feet away.
Moments later, the birds suddenly turned on her and ran toward her, honking.
One flew straight at her, knocked her to the ground, and the other geese began to peck at her head and body as she yelled and waved her arms.
Moments later, they were gone.
This comes under my animals are turning against humans category.
Okay, here we go.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello?
Hey, how are you doing, Art?
I'm fine.
Art?
Yes.
Pleased to say hello with you.
I'm from the Kingdom of Dane.
Open lines this evening?
The Kingdom of where?
Kingdom of Dane, Madison, Wisconsin.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, open lines.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I was wondering if you might have Charles Cagle on the line again.
About the sun.
Well yeah, about the polar shift somewhat, but mainly about ball lightning.
His theory, which he developed by talking about ball lightning, and all the rest of it, eventually led up to his theory about a polar shift which would be induced by a giant ejecta, a mass ejecta from the sun.
And sure enough, here about what, a month later, we're having regular giant ejecta from the sun.
Exactly.
Now, how warm and fuzzy do you feel about that?
I don't feel very warm and fuzzy about it, but I thought... I had an experience when I was nine years old, and I thought... I mean, I always thought it was like something extraterrestrial, but now I think it was maybe ball lightning.
Well, there is ball lightning, sir.
Thank you very much.
I understand.
And people see it, and it would be very difficult to discern if you saw ball lightning.
You would not know whether you were seeing ball lightning, an energy source from beyond, some kind of UFO.
You would have no idea, really, what you were seeing.
I've never seen ball lightning, so I wouldn't know what if I saw.
And I might conclude a lot of different things.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi, Art.
Hi, turn your radio off, please.
Okay, it's off.
How's it going?
It's going.
Yeah, I just checked out those images.
It does look like an underground nuclear test to me.
Does it?
Yeah.
To me, you know, that's my opinion.
But I work in graphic arts.
I can't say I really look at too many satellite images, though.
Okay.
I just...
You know, I want to know what it is before I go any further.
I want to know what it is I'm looking at.
So that's your best guess, huh?
Yeah, I was wondering if you're going to have Harlot on.
I'm working a couple blocks where she lives.
Harlot?
Yeah.
I might have Harlot on again, but she pretty well said what she wanted to say.
I don't know there would be value to having her on for another hour or two saying hail Satan and that sort of thing.
Well, yeah, I could see that.
All right, well, I figured I'd let you know what I thought.
All right, thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
There's somebody who got to see the images, and I'm going to reserve comment.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Howard.
Yes, hello.
Hi.
I'm calling from Kent State, Ohio.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I've been trying to get in forever, because I've been looking on the Internet.
Something I heard about on 60 Minutes about the Cheyenne Mountain Incident, I think it was February 8th.
What incident do you refer to?
I'm not sure.
I missed the show and I heard you were talking about it one night.
I think you mentioned it with Ed Dane.
Well, I asked Ed about it and there are, let's see, stories going around that a number of Cheyenne Mountain employees, without notice and all together, left their employment at Cheyenne Mountain.
I haven't had a chance to look at him and I'm no expert.
South America. Now why would you imagine that might happen?
I haven't the slightest idea. You wouldn't have any idea where you could get more information
on that. No, if I did I'd have it.
I'm sure you would. But, you know, it's just one of those things
you go, oh, really? Uh-oh.
Also, the way you're setting up the table for the pictures, I haven't had a chance to
look at them and I'm no expert, I'm just a college student.
But I think, so, I don't The way you're setting it up, it seems like they're either in North Korea or Iraq.
I don't know what you're setting it up.
I can't comment.
I don't even know what it is for sure.
All of this is premature, but I think that it has some national security implications.
It might have.
Let me put it that way.
That's an educated guess.
Actually, that's an uneducated guess.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you very much for the call.
These were sent to me... You know, right now, I don't want to say any more about it at all, other than just to leave them there for comment.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
How are you?
This is Rick in Seattle.
Let me get my radio real quick.
Hi, Rick.
Good to have you on.
Thanks.
I know you're going to have Mr. Davenport on later to talk about the Seattle The Washington thing, right?
The Washington thing, yes.
And I was just curious, I know you've talked about it a little bit before, and I haven't been able to really hear it when it's been on your program, and do you know if it's all over the state, or if it's just in certain regions?
Are you referring to the siting in Washington?
Yes.
It traversed the state, as I understand it, north to south, across the entire state, and It was seen at the Bangor facility, where I am told we may have some nuclear assets.
Now, there are quite a few witnesses.
Did you hear Peter when he was on last time?
No, I did not.
Alright, then you're going to want to stay tuned next hour, and we will play a few of the eyewitness Uh, tapes again for you.
Do you know the date that it happened?
Um, we'll lay all that out for you right up here at the top of the hour.
Okay, I appreciate it, Art.
I'll let you get back to business.
Alright, take care.
Uh, first time callers call area 702-727-1222.
Uh, Eric, you're not allowed to use your last name on the air.
Copy that.
That's the, uh, one rule we've got here.
So we'll just make you Eric, and where are you calling from?
I'm calling from Las Vegas.
Las Vegas?
Oh, alright.
Good.
Anyway, I used to be part of the Maine Limited Area Guard in the Marine Corps at the Bangor Facility.
Oh?
I might be able to, I don't know, give you some information, clear up any anomalous suggestions or questions that you might have.
Well, alright.
You were at the Bangor Facility in Washington?
Correct.
And you were in what position?
They have a Marine Corps Security Force Detachment that guards the Maine Limited Area, is what they call the Storage facility for the Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific.
Uh, so then you are confirming for us... Boy, that's a bad phone you've got there.
Yeah, I'm on a cellular.
Cellular.
Okay, you're confirming for us, then, that they store nuclear weapons at that facility.
I can neither confirm nor deny, Art.
Okay, that's good enough.
That's good enough.
That's good enough.
Now, what happened is, uh, a UFO traveling at a tremendous rate of speed I stopped directly above that facility recently, paused, and then shot on.
You've told me what you can tell me, apparently.
This incident occurred in the last, I don't know, week or two.
Right, I heard the program when you discussed it.
With your friend Mr. Davenport?
Yes.
Right.
So, you've told me about as much as you can, huh?
Well, I could probably give you some insight on what was going on.
As far as what the security detachment was doing inside the facility.
Maybe paint a picture for you.
Alright.
Paint it.
Well I can't give you troop strength or any information on what personnel or assets are kept there.
Right.
Of course there are towers that spotlight different areas along the perimeter.
Try to keep unauthorized personnel out.
What would happen as we We're not able to maintain constant control of the airspace over the facility due to the Bremerton Municipal Airport being south of the facility.
Right.
South of the base there.
However, first thing that would happen, you'd have a security alert.
Reaction force personnel would respond to the area and they would basically stand by.
I mean, we were really kind of at the mercy of a flying anything.
Department of Defense personnel would have to give us authorization to fire, uh, a UFO, whether it was, you know, an experimental aircraft, or if it was, indeed, some kind of alien entity, would not necessarily be a threat.
Um, while it would be suspicious that it would be hovering over our main limited area, um, it doesn't necessarily justify the use of deadly force.
So there'd be a certain amount of thumb twiddling and fingernail chewing, But, of course, the weapons would be there, as far as our... Could you... Alright, Peter Davenport spoke with a civilian official who originally confirmed the incident for him.
And that was several days ago, and now this civilian official suddenly has done a 180 degree turnaround and will not even admit that he spoke to Peter Davenport.
Correct.
Why would you imagine that might occur?
Well, SWFPAC, which he mentioned in his program, Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific, is a very large organization that handles strategic assets along the West Coast.
And I'm sure that they have a lot of clout, and if one of their personnel wanted to discuss this, they may have been counseled to do otherwise in the interest of national security.
I'm no longer stationed at the facility myself.
I couldn't say, you know, I wasn't present when this incident actually occurred.
But having been stationed there, I know what goes on, what the procedures are as far as the Main Limited Area Guard and the Marine Corps Detachment there.
Yeah.
Under the circumstances, it's a good thing I bleeped out your last name.
Outstanding.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you very much for the information, sir.
I'm glad if I could, you know, help.
And a picture of what might be going on there as far as the security force detachment.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Take care.
Okay.
Now that's a pretty good setup for what's coming next with Peter Davenport.
I want to give everybody enough of an opportunity to go up to the website for two, actually three, very important reasons tonight.
One, I have posted these photographs that I have been dilly-dallying about posting for reasons that you may understand when you see them, or maybe not, I don't know.
I want to know what this is a photograph of.
Period.
All right?
So if you can, go take a look.
And number two, there is a very simple artist rendering of the object that Was seen over Bangor in Washington.
On the website as well and maybe from it somebody will recognize something.
But it's just a very simple rendering.
Please take a look and tell us what you think.
Whether you've seen anything like it, whether you were one of the witnesses.
And we're going to roll over this whole thing that occurred in Washington with Peter Davenport right after the top of the hour news.
All this on the shocking news today of the three nuclear detonations in India.
And believe me, the implications of that are very, very serious.
And they're talking about other nations' reactions, including China.
I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
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Premier Radio Network presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired May 12th, 1998.
Once again, here I am.
Good morning everybody.
Alright, we are going to do a number of things this hour.
Premier Radio Network presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired May 12, 1998.
Once again, here I am. Good morning, everybody.
All right, we are going to do a number of things this hour.
The first is, about two months ago, I received two images from outside the country.
And And I did receive a message with them.
I have destroyed that message on purpose.
Because I want to protect the anonymity of the person who sent them, who would lose his job without question.
I've been wondering what to do with these images for the last couple of months.
I finally decided I've waited long enough.
They're on the website right now.
And all I would like you to do is take a look at the images and tell me what you think they are.
You tell me what you're seeing.
All right?
It's like a big Rorschach test.
Anybody familiar with aerial photography or satellite imagery, I would like you to take a look at this and tell me what you're seeing.
And the responses so far, I'm not going to begin to divulge the responses for perhaps about an hour.
Are very, very interesting.
The big news of the day, of course, is of the nuclear tests done in India.
And the Reuters story on these tests suggests that, quoting from Reuters, the U.S.
analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep One official said, speaking anonymously.
So our guys were all asleep when this occurred, and apparently we had some hours' notice that it was going to happen, about six hours.
They got the image, but everybody responsible, I guess, for identifying it and saying what it was and what was about to happen was at home, in bed, asleep.
So anyway, I guess that jogged me a little bit, and I knew it was about time to post these photographs, and I would appreciate your input.
You'll see them on my website now, and if I get in trouble about it, who cares, I guess.
At some point or another, you've got to say either I'm going to do this or I'm not, and I opt in favor of doing it.
It may be nothing, it may be something indeed.
I'll let you tell me now.
So I have posted these very controversial photographs that I've been holding.
Number two, there has been a second chapter in this UFO story in the state of Washington.
Some very, very interesting developments.
And we'll have Peter Davenport on in a moment.
Refresh your memory, perhaps, With the audio from a couple of witnesses and then tell you what has happened since.
Alright, here once again from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle with an increasingly intriguing story.
Is Peter Davenport.
Peter, welcome to the program.
Thank you, Art.
Privileged to be here tonight.
Good to have you, and I have to remind you as always, stay good and close to your phone for us.
Okay.
Is that better?
Yeah, that's better.
All right.
You heard, apparently, the telephone call I got just before the top of the hour from a Marine who had been at Bangor.
I did.
And he gave us the Standard.
I asked him if there were nuclear devices there, and he said, I can neither confirm nor deny it.
Which is the usual answer given when in fact there are nuclear or strategic weapons at a site.
To be expected, I think.
Yeah, to be expected.
A very interesting call.
Now, let's refresh the audience.
A lot of them have not heard, even some of your own Washington residents have called, And they didn't even know what the heck happened in Washington, so let's begin at the beginning and do a couple of the audio clips.
Yeah, I'd be happy to do that.
Why don't we give our listeners a minute or two to get up to the website.
I think it would be very interesting to them to look at the image that was sent to us by the witness over in Polesboro, Washington.
That's about 20 miles to the west of Seattle.
We'll give them a minute or two to get to that website.
And pull up the picture, and then we'll play the minute or minute and a half audio cut that we have of this gentleman reporting what he saw that had just gone over Bangor Submarine Base.
And if it doesn't raise goose flesh on the people who are looking at that image... Well, yeah, I'm looking at the image right now.
And for those who don't... We've got to remember, a lot of people don't have computers.
It shows what appear to be... Are these trees, I would say?
Yeah, he has trees down in the left-hand corner.
And there, up above them, is an oval-shaped object.
He's looking, apparently, at the bottom side of a disc, which is tipped about 30 or 35 degrees, he estimated, away from him.
So he is getting now a very good look at the bottom of the craft, and on the outside ring, on the bottom of that craft, like a donut, a very bright section, And in the center, like a donut hole that occupies about a third of the diameter of the bottom of the disc, is totally black.
Now, he said black, and you couldn't see through the black?
You couldn't see stars through the black or anything else?
It was just black from his vantage point, as far as I know, like charcoal or dark gray.
And he got a very good look at that object, even though he saw it for only an estimated three to five seconds, probably closer to three.
It was a very, very clear night.
He reports he was on the second floor of his building.
I've met this gentleman.
He attended our monthly UFO meeting up here in Seattle last Saturday.
And after I'd gone through describing his report, he very, very, almost meekly raised his hand and he said, I am the gentleman who reported that to you.
So he surprised us by showing up at our meeting.
We were delighted to have him there.
Very urbane, very intelligent guy, very sincere.
And I am inclined to believe every word he's told us so far.
In fact, he was on TV news up here last night.
A local TV station did a very fine report on this particular case.
They first reported it as a probable meteorite the night of the event, but we woke them up and we shared with them some of the reports that have come to us.
I don't know if your webmasters had time to put up the summary of the 11 major reports of this event that have come to us.
from all over the state of Washington but whereas last week when I reported on your program that the object shot from north to south with a pause, a brief pause over Bangor submarine base we now happen to know that that object hooked around to the east down near Portland just north of Portland and we just on Sunday this past week received a report from a member of a law enforcement community in Yakima Washington That's southeast of Seattle, probably 150 miles or so, who saw an object streaking from south to north now, out east of Yakima.
He saw it for about two seconds, and during his brief sighting, it changed from green to red.
My, my.
This is a very... It is stacking up to be a very, very complex case.
From the very beginning, The personnel at Bangor Base who have been very courteous, very professional.
I have no complaints except for the fact that we can't get much information out of them.
They have been very careful with me.
For example, eight days ago, Monday, when I called them and talked to the Public Affairs Office, I requested permission to talk to the officer in charge of base security.
I thought that would be the appropriate person to talk to.
Well, I talked to the young gentleman who answered the phone, and I was directed then to the most senior civilian individual who works in that office.
They apparently have a military side and a civilian side, and I was directed to the civilian side.
That is the gentleman who apprised me after a long, long conversation, and my long-distance phone bill will show that conversation very clearly, or at least the time spent on the telephone to that number.
He did admit to me that two individuals from inside, I got the impression they worked inside Bangor Base, had reported an incident.
Quote, quote, an incident.
He would go no further than that.
He's very professional, very reserved, he knows what he's doing, and I got the distinct impression... Now this is a civil service employee of some kind?
I presume that would be the case, yes.
But let's go to a couple of audio cuts.
Wait, Peter, I have one more question.
This fellow, can you give us his job title?
He's a public affairs or public information officer.
Good enough.
All right.
I don't wish to come down too hard on him personally.
It's the policy that we're struggling here with, not an individual.
All right, fine.
Let's do the setup.
...is going to introduce our listeners to the first sighting of this object.
Again, it took place on Wednesday, the 22nd of April, at about 9.20 or 9.22 p.m.
This is a young fellow, age 16, who was driving with his mother up about 20 miles north of Seattle.
They saw an object that at first appeared to be stationary, then it grew a tail, it dropped down vertically, and then it streaked to the south-southwest, which, by the way, is in the direction of Bangor Bay.
Let's listen to this first cut.
It's about 60 seconds long or so.
All right.
Here we go.
And what did you see on the 22nd of April, Peter?
Well, I saw a blue light that seemed to hover in the clouds.
It was blue in the center, bright blue in the center, with a blue yoke almost around it.
It hovered there for about 30 seconds, or excuse me, about three seconds, when it It started to grow a tail and it was still stable when it grew the tail and then it shot down across the sky at about a 45 degree angle and that took for about 5 to 6 seconds for it to shoot down across the sky.
And what direction do you think it was going as it left your position?
And where were you located at the time of your sighting, please?
Okay, so about roughly 20 miles north of Seattle?
And where were you located at the time of your sighting, please?
I was located about three miles south of Kenwanda Grand Canyon, Oklahoma.
Okay, so about roughly 20 miles north of Seattle?
Yes.
Okay.
Now that was the first sighting of the object so far as we are aware.
Peter, what would remain stationary, grow a tail, and then, just like, you know, that's how, when they go to warp drive in Star Trek, that's exactly what it looks like.
That's the image that comes to mind, too.
Although, let it be said that if, for example, a meteor is flying directly at you, it can appear stationary, for sure.
So it's the remaining reports that really put the whole thing into focus a little bit better.
This fellow reported that it appeared to drop down vertically through overcast.
That was the first report we took from him.
Right.
We're having a hard time finding that overcast or cloud on that particular date.
But by and large it's a very good report and his mother was present at the sighting as well.
So we have two people there.
Right.
Now that sets us up for the big Enchilada, if you will.
This is the report we took from Poolsbo, Washington.
That's about 20 miles to the west of Seattle.
It's on the northeast corner, very close to the Bangor Submarine Facility.
Again, the next witness we're going to hear was on the second floor of his building, looking to the southwest.
And this is what he describes he saw that night on the 22nd of April.
Here we go.
It's about a 88 second cut, I think.
We've got the time.
Here we go.
Okay, it was approximately 9.20 p.m.
on Wednesday evening and I live, oh, about a half mile from the Bangor submarine base.
I was looking out a second floor bedroom window towards the base when I noticed a circular disc-shaped object Approximately three-quarter mile from my house.
It was also about 300 feet above the ground, about 200 feet above the tree line.
The object appeared to be 50 to 60 feet long and was moving from a north to south direction towards the center of the Bangor Submarine Base.
It was circular, but it seemed to be tilted at about a 35 degree angle with the bottom towards me.
And because of that tilt, there was a slight oval shape to it.
And what did you see on the bottom of it?
The entire bottom of the craft was glowing with a white light.
It wasn't a bright light that shone down to the ground.
It was more just a very bright white glow.
Except for the center section, there was a circular area in the center that comprised about 30% of the diameter of the disk.
And that center section was black.
That's what he saw.
And that's in fact what is depicted in a very simple presentation right now up on the website of what this man saw above this submarine base.
This gentleman is a computer specialist.
He sat down and created that image.
It's a computer generated image and sent it to us and gave us permission to share it with you.
We are terribly grateful to him.
Again, I met him.
I had a long conversation with him on Saturday.
Very bright guy.
He's lived in his area virtually all of his adult life.
He knows the lay of the land quite well.
Very good observer.
Very precise reporter of what he saw and apparently a very good memory of what he saw.
Now, his report fits in perfectly with about ten other reports.
Major reports we've received.
In what we've posted to the website, if it's up there yet, it'll certainly be on our website tomorrow.
We'll share it with you, Art.
In addition to the 11 major reports that we've received so far, there have been other minor reports that tend to corroborate this incident.
Again, in the first report we heard, the young lad reporting at 20 miles north of Seattle, he reports that it was blue.
It is also blue over the submarine base a matter of a few seconds later, we estimate.
Later on, it turned green, it maneuvered, it went down, it went up, it streaked, it slowed, and it turned about 120 degrees to the left and shot up to Yakima.
Well, no meteorite I can imagine could do any of that.
Nope.
It's not consistent with a meteorite, with weather balloons, with swamp gas, or crash dummies, so far as we can tell.
So it looks like you've got a real one on your hands.
All right, so you began, then obviously you've got enough reports, you've documented what you've got, you know what happened.
You talked to this one civilian official who admitted to you, yes, there had been an incident.
And you now have gone back to that facility, and he now says he never talked to you?
Well, in all fairness to him, I've not gone back to him.
The report that Bangor and his office now apparently denies that they ever made that representation to me about two reports inside Bangor, I cannot personally confirm.
It's been reported to me by Como News up here at the TV station.
In other words, Como did an inquiry and got a denial?
Yes.
They talked to this gentleman last night in the course of preparing their 11 o'clock.
The same man, Peter?
The same man.
Peter, hold right there, alright?
We're at the bottom of the hour, and I want a break here.
Now isn't this intriguing?
Peter talks to a man who says one thing, and Como Television talks to the same man a day later or so,
and he gets an entirely, they get an entirely different story.
What do you suppose they might have been looking at, at Bangor?
you I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
The Coast to Coast AM concert was held at the San Francisco International Airport on May 12th, 1998.
The concert was held at the San Francisco International Airport on May 12th, 1998.
You're listening to ARC Bell, Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
You know, I really do wonder sometimes how long they are going to leave me on the air.
We just keep pushing the envelope a little farther and a little farther.
It'll be kind of interesting to see when the envelope tears.
Ha ha.
All right, here we go.
Here comes Peter Davenport once again from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
And as we began to discuss at the bottom of the hour, he had an initial report from this apparent civil service employee, a public relations type, who admitted, yes, there had been an incident at Bangor.
But then when Como TV called him to check on the report, he apparently It's a rumor at this stage, but it's a reliable rumor as far as I know.
Also, as if things don't happen fast enough in this business, I just took a call from the gentleman over in Poolsville, Washington, whose voice our listeners just heard in the last audio cut.
He called me to apprise me of what I had forgotten.
There apparently is a video tape now that's been identified of that object going across the Bangor submarine base.
You're kidding.
Como tried to get it.
Apparently there's some difficulty in the negotiations.
They weren't able to secure it.
In the possession of a civilian or what?
Apparently.
I don't know any more details than that.
I don't know the name of the individual.
Don't know anything about the disposition of that tape, the contents, or anything like that.
But if that individual is within earshot of us, we would really like to get at least a still photo.
A snappy.
Yeah.
If we can get one, we'd be happy to share it with you.
Of course, we'll put it right up on your website and we'll let your listeners see what actually took place there.
Not an artist's rendition, a video clip of it.
Oh my.
Oh my, oh my.
All right.
All right, so there we are.
And that's where we sit now.
But that is all new information.
And again, Como TV is involved.
They're my affiliate up there.
I can probably get some inside word from them, Peter.
Yeah, that would be great.
I know they're working on it.
They did mention it last night when I interviewed in their studios for the news clip last night.
And I know that late last night they were still trying to get The right to use it for their news.
Well, in more ways than one, this is a very strange day because, as you know, India lit off three and caught our security people, intelligence people, napping.
They were all home in bed asleep, even with the hours of notice that we had.
And there's just some pretty strange times, Peter.
Pretty strange times.
And I would think, the reason I mention that is I would think That these, whatever they are, these objects that we see have a disproportionate interest in our nuclear facilities.
That could be.
I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
There is a story circulating about Chernobyl.
In 1986, when it blew up, April 86, I think it was, when it blew its top, there are reports of UFOs that were sighted, or at least one UFO, a disc-shaped UFO in proximity to that nuclear power plant up north of Kiev when it blew up, but I cannot confirm that.
As far as I'm concerned, it's only rumor at this stage.
But it comes out of the Soviet Union, and it appears to come from a good source.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they are.
Fascinating night.
Anything else you want to add, Peter?
Yeah, one other thing.
You asked me about this Marine Guard who called in.
Yes.
And I have a short story that pertains to what he had to report.
I think he said that they do not have defense against airborne threat at Bangor.
Basically that they don't.
And the reason they don't, I think he said, was because of the proximity of the commercial airport.
That they're overflown all the time or something.
Well, that sort of caused me to perk up my ears because just about two months ago, I was talking to a gentleman here in Seattle who owns a Russian-made hydrofoil boat about 20 feet long, about 6 or 8 feet wide.
The Soviets brought a whole bunch of them to Vancouver, B.C.
for the 1986 Expo.
When they closed down the Expo, the Soviets just sold about 20 of them here in the Northwest.
They're used up in San Juan County among the islands for high-speed commuters and so on and so forth.
This gentleman was telling me how just a couple years ago he was flying by the Bangor Submarine Facility in his Russian hydrofoil at about 60 or 70 knots and he and his friend decided they ought to pull a little bit closer to the submarine base just to take a look.
Yes.
They angled in towards the base again about 70 miles an hour or so and he said he was surprised by the activity The animation on the long piers they have where the submarines are pulled up and within a matter of seconds one of the individuals appeared to pull out from a bunker what appeared to him to be a black stovepipe and cradle it on his shoulder.
I doubt that it was a stovepipe.
I doubt it was a stovepipe too.
And he described to me in great animation The Hobson's choice that he felt he was faced with, does he bail out of his cherished high-speed Russian hydrofoil at 70 miles an hour with the hydrofoils just inches below him that looks something like Paul Bunyan's straight razor?
Or does he take his chances with that stovepipe?
And they quickly turned away from the angry submarine base.
That story, however, came to mind when that young Marine was talking.
I cannot believe That that facility is not protected against every threat that they can possibly imagine.
I'm sure it is, but what he was pointing out was that there is so much commercial air traffic that, in essence, he was saying, he wasn't really saying there was no defense, he was saying that they just put up with people flying over it or near it or within eyesight of it all the time.
And I'm sure that's correct.
I suspect that's the case.
One of the questions I posed to the public information officer I spoke with is whether they have television or video coverage of the base.
I cannot believe that they do not have mounted cameras that record every seagull.
No kidding.
You mean he said they didn't?
He said he could not comment on that point.
I see.
Well, that may be like saying we can neither confirm nor deny another version thereof.
That may be the reason that we're having difficulty getting the video.
We don't know where it's come from.
Perhaps Como does up here, but I certainly don't.
All right, why don't we give out your number there, the reporting number, so if anybody has any info they can get it to you.
Yeah, I'll give out our phone number.
I'll also give out our website address.
All right.
The UFO reporting hotline number in Seattle is area code 206-722-3000.
And our website address is www.ufocenter.com.
And if people, I would be grateful if they saw this object on the 22nd of April and would like to submit a report, we're now aware of it.
It would be helpful if they could submit reports over our website.
We have a standardized form there.
Or they can send me an email, which is simply director at ufocenter.com.
As always, wonderful work, good reporting, careful investigation.
Thank you, Peter.
Thank you, Art.
It's been a pleasure.
It always is a privilege to be here.
Take care.
That's Peter Davenport at the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington.
We're going back to open lines here shortly.
Here's an interesting fact.
I'm getting a lot of interesting facts.
It's from Sandy, and I won't give her last name, though.
She gives it here.
Hi, Art.
I have an audio tape message of a ghost.
I am a God-fearing woman and do not like pranks, so I assure you this is no prank.
I once lived in a very haunted house and would love to share my tape and history.
If you're interested, I have an email, gives an email address, or my home phone.
She gives a phone number.
Love your program.
Always been a faithful listener and seeker of truth for several years.
Best wishes always, Sandy.
And I won't give her last name.
I think I'm going to call Sandy right now.
See if this is true.
God-fearing, huh?
Okay.
Nothing like doing it right here on the air.
Let's see if I can do this.
See if we can get a ring.
Hello?
Sandy, it's Art Bell.
Yes, I've heard on the radio.
Okay, then you know it's Art Bell and you know you're on the air, right?
Yes, I do.
All right.
You really have a tape of a ghost?
Yes, I do.
Do you have it to where you could play it on, you know, like hold your phone up to the tape recorder and play it?
Yeah, I've got it set just in case you would have called.
All right.
First then, tell us a little bit of the history about what we're going to hear.
When did you get this?
How'd you get it?
What happened?
Well, it's been about ten years ago and we lived in a house.
My daughter was Eleven or twelve at the time.
I'm kind of so nervous.
Just relax.
Where was this?
This was in Auroville, California.
I'm living in Washington now.
She kept telling me that she heard knocking on the wall in this house.
I said, no, no, no.
I'm not going to have any ghost business.
I don't want to hear this stuff.
Her and her little friend were in her room and they had one of those real small little radios, you know, you give the kids.
Sure.
Record tapes.
And her and her friend would record, you know, a fantasy story.
Well, one day they had recorded a story on the tape and they went to play it and there was something else on the tape before their story started.
On the original tape it was actually on the part that wasn't even magnetized.
It was on that little trailer that starts the tape.
Are you kidding?
No.
And when I heard the...
She excitedly brought it to me and I played it and I played it again and I played it again
and then I got terrified.
And a lot of things happened in that house after that.
I got angry with the ghost and told it to leave us alone.
Did that work?
Well, it basically left me alone.
My son was in his room and in his bed, and as his bed was being dragged across the floor... What?
What?
Yeah.
And... Now, you're not a drinker?
You're not a drug user?
Oh, absolutely not.
I'm about as grounded as I come.
You saw your son's bed being dragged with him in it?
Well, he was awake.
And he told me about it, and I went into his room and saw that his bed was actually three feet from where it normally was.
Where it had been?
And he had been laying in it, you know, he had gone to bed, been laying there a couple of minutes, and the bed just started sliding across the floor.
Oh.
Oh, Sandy.
I had a... I slept in a water bed, and at night, every once in a while, the water in it would just start churning like it was an egg beater inside the mattress.
And it was kind of like...
Now I sleep in waterbeds, Andy.
And the last thing I want to think about is something down in the water.
Oh my God.
It was like he just played these little jokes.
These things, like an exercise bike and you just start spinning the wheels.
Oh, humorous.
Would knock on the walls every once in a while.
One day I was looking in a cupboard and it knocked out that shave and a haircut.
And I didn't knock back, and so it knocked back real hard, you know, that last little bit that it just slammed it into the wall.
I experienced that once here several months ago in the studio, Sandy.
I'm telling you the truth now.
All of a sudden, there was a crash on my door.
I mean, I've got a studio inside my home, and there's nobody here.
There's some cats, right?
Uh-huh.
And they were all asleep on the bed with my wife.
Of course, I didn't know that at the time.
But I mean, it's like in the movies where you see that horrible crash and a door bends inward.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not saying it bent inward.
It didn't.
But I mean, I thought, my God, 200 pounds just hit that door.
It was a big crash.
And I ran over and opened the door and there was absolutely nothing there.
Ran across the house into the bedroom.
My wife was asleep with all three cats sitting right there.
So I know about these horrible knocks and bangs.
Same ghost, maybe.
Scared the you-know-what out of me.
Yeah.
All right, why don't you play this for us?
Okay.
And it sounds really deep.
And the first few times I heard it, I had to listen several times before I really realized what he was saying.
But I'm going to play it.
Oh, you mean there's a voice?
It's a voice.
All right.
He left this voice message on the tape.
All right, all right.
Play it.
Just play it first without telling us.
Okay, here it goes.
So what have we got here?
So far nothing.
Diana?
Oh, my goodness!
That came across OK?
It came across, uh, yeah.
It's got kind of a long trail at the beginning.
It's been put onto another tape from the original.
All right, now rewind it, and this time, Tell me what you think.
Now, you've listened many times.
We have not.
What do you think it says?
Let me tell you first.
Yeah, go ahead and tell us now.
It says, I wish we were together.
Oh.
All right, play it again.
OK.
It's got like a long lead in.
Well, just go ahead and start the lead in, and then, in fact, start it right now.
OK.
We know it's a few seconds.
Yeah.
And so here it comes again.
I wish we were together, huh?
Here it goes.
Listen carefully.
Right after the leader.
Oh, God, that is what it says.
This is like listening to David Oates in reverse speech, you know?
I know, maybe you could reverse it.
It really sounds strange.
Oh, Sandy.
It's got that clicking noise in the back.
Oh, Sandy.
Rewind it one last time.
There is no question about it.
I wish we were together.
Do you have any idea of who that is, Sandy?
Absolutely not.
But we did find out after, you know, the house was kind of active.
And my daughter went and she had a little friend there in the neighborhood.
And her mother said that there was a murder and suicide in that house.
And it had happened in, there was two bathrooms, and it had happened in one of the bathrooms.
Well, I had always never felt alone in that one bathroom.
I never used it, because I always felt something else there.
I hear you.
Now that is creepy.
That is really creepy.
Isn't it?
It just makes the hair stand up, you know.
I'm used to it now, but it used to just make my hair stand up.
Well, I'm not.
So play it one last time.
Hit it one last time.
I want to listen very carefully.
Start it.
Give it a second or two to get it to work.
I wish we were together is what it says.
Here it comes.
Okay. Anytime.
Thank you.
Oh, Sandy.
Rich, huh?
I'll tell you, and then what follows.
In other words, what you've got on there is... What comes after is my daughter's voice.
I understand.
I heard that.
But the leader is what you're talking about.
There's nothing on the leader.
Yeah.
The minute the leader is over, then this comes on, and then whatever your daughter was doing is on after that.
Right.
It's like it just moved everything over, and this voice was just there.
Well, I would have totally, totally Freaked out.
In fact, I would have called.
Did you get in touch with anybody?
Did you consult an exorcist?
No, I contemplated for a couple of days of calling a Catholic priest or something, you know, to rid the house of this entity.
But I ended up just getting really mad.
And I just stood there and I just said, you know, you leave us alone.
When you start paying rent on this house, then you can haunt it.
But until then, leave us alone.
And my kids just like, Mom!
I did not want my kids still sleeping on the couches because they were afraid of their rooms and that kind of thing.
I don't blame them.
I would be too.
Sandy, would you do me a gigantic favor and can you mail me a dub, one generation off the original?
You can?
Yep.
Your address is on the website, right?
Uh, yes it is.
And I'll give it to you now if you want it.
Um, I don't have a pen.
Alright then, I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
I can get it right off the website.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
I'll get a piece of paper and a pencil.
When I come back after the top of the hour, I'll give my address just to be sure you get it, alright?
Okay.
Alright, Sandy, bless your heart.
Thank you.
And you take care.
And you take care.
I will.
I will.
Alright, bye.
Oh man.
Oh man.
you.
you That's Sandy now in Washington.
And anybody out there have any comments on that one?
There are two photographs that I fear... Again, I don't want to say anything just yet, but there are two photographs that I would like you to look at on my website right now.
In fact, if anybody knows, if anybody is an expert on what these photographs depict, send me a fax with your name and number and I'll call you and we'll get you on the air.
Maybe we'll talk about it.
From the high and wet desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
You're listening to ArcBell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
Music.
And I mean a creeped out night, folks.
There's a lot going on.
Item 1.
Those two photographs that I've been holding now for the better part of a couple of months, I have finally released.
They are on my website right now.
I've got a fax from somebody here that says, Art, help.
I've been all over your website and can't find these photos anywhere.
I can't tell you what I think they are if I can't see them.
Where the heck did Keith hide them?
This is unbelievable.
I mean, it's like the first item in the new section.
Well, maybe it's not the first item.
Maybe it's the second item.
Let me see if I can get in myself and look.
It's like you can't miss them.
It says...
In the new items, what is this and what is that?
And you're supposed to click on this or that.
Okay, this is the second item.
Dated 5-12-98.
Says, what is this?
You can click on that.
Or that, and you can click on that.
Satellite image, question mark.
And the only thing that I'm going to tell you about these photographs is, I got them two months ago.
I am just a layman.
But I think that I know what I'm looking at.
And I don't want to say.
I want you to take a look, those of you who are familiar with aerial photography and satellite photography, you take a look and you tell me what it is.
And if we've got an expert out there who would like to come on the air and tell everybody what it is, then fine.
I have destroyed the email that came with this originally, with these images.
But I can tell you that, and I said then and I say now, that they possibly, or potentially, have national security implications.
And I've waited long enough.
The fellow said if I were to release the photographs he'd get fired.
And so I'm going to hold back the information regarding where I got them, and there's quite an interesting story there.
And I do this in the shadow today of the detonation of three nuclear devices, as you well know, by India.
It's the lead news right now.
And incredibly, incredibly, Reuters is reporting that we had, I guess, about six hours satellite image notification of scrambling on the ground indicating there was about to be a test or a detonation in India.
And Reuters reports that a source has told them that everybody responsible for watching or analyzing this kind of thing was asleep in bed.
Dolores in Portland, Oregon writes simply, Art, with respect to India's three nuclear detonations, I think there's going to be the biggest pissing contest ever.
I agree with Dolores.
Pakistan will either fire a rocket, a strategic rocket, or themselves detonate a nuclear explosion.
China may well feel pressed to detonate a nuclear explosion.
The whole thing may well fall apart as a result of this.
Now the scrambling behind the scenes, of course, is to get everybody to quickly sign on to a test ban treaty once again.
This in view of strange objects above strategic locations, as reported last hour by Peter Davenport, looking very closely at what we're doing with nukes.
Now, if they, in quotes, are out there, it would follow that they would be very interested in this sort of thing.
Could this test of three devices in India escalate?
Oh yes, very quickly.
In fact, even Japan might quickly feel pressured, as might Korea, to respond.
And we could begin seeing detonations of nuclear devices all over the planet.
So, what we have to hope now is That those diplomats who are scrambling to get everybody to sign on to something to stop this right now, and I mean right now, it should have been stopped before it occurred but the CIA screwed up.
Obviously they screwed up.
Now whether the diplomats can put the band-aid on the nuclear detonation or not, I don't know.
We'll see.
And then just prior to the beginning of this hour, this lady called, named Sandy, with a tape of a ghost.
Damnedest thing you ever heard.
And you may want to comment on that.
Unbelievable.
A very interesting night all the way around.
In addition, this object that was seen in Washington over the Submarine base is been has been drawn by one of the witnesses and that is also on my website right now Artist rendering of Bangor UFO, so you might want to take a look at that one as well So there's hot stuff going on on the website Let me know and we may get some more reports during the night tonight
Really got to wonder how long they're going to allow me to do this because I wonder.
Look, we just go treading through all kinds of strange territory.
But life is short, right?
Alright, open lines.
Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
Here we go.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hello there.
Hello.
Hello, turn your radio off.
That's number one.
Are you there?
Yes, is this Mike?
Yes, it is.
Well, if you remember, you had Lori Toy on the other night.
I do remember, yes.
And you remember what she told?
She said that those people are not out to hurt us.
Uh, I recall that she said that, yes.
So, we shouldn't worry about that.
I think they're here to persuade us.
To get out of the business, not to destroy ourselves.
Aren't we about to join the Federation of the Universe?
Beats me.
I mean, there are people who believe that.
There are people who believe that whoever they, in quotes, are, that they're harmless.
And there's lots of other people, like Dr. Jacobs, who believe that they are not harmless at all and would do us great harm.
So I would say, before we conclude What they are all about, we should meet with some of them and determine for ourselves.
What do you think?
Haven't we already done that?
Well, I see.
Do you know that for a fact?
No.
Nor do I. So, your guess is as good as mine.
All right, that was a suggestion, Art.
All right, thank you very much.
Look, many of my guests have divergent opinions about many things, including who they are and what they are all about.
And until I have proof of anything one way or the other, I have to consider all those divergent opinions and not be satisfied with any single thing.
On my international line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning.
Aaron in Winnipeg?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, um, interesting show going as usual, and I really found last night's show very interesting.
Yes, it was.
Yeah, I regret that I didn't have, wasn't able to get through, and if it's okay, I'd like to toss out an idea.
uh... from uh... that i would have uh... called about last night
okay uh...
you know how how they were talking a lot about the uh...
what jenesis chapter six with the uh... offering offering of the mortal beings
around supernatural beings yes
for now i'm wondering now uh... this is just a an idea of wondering if they
if those beings had any uh...
any hand in possibly like building pyramids and things like that
beats me i mean
the way the way the uh...
pyramids and that are built you know it seems like such a a huge undertaking
You wonder if it, and they didn't, as far as we know, they didn't have any kind of machinery like they have today, you know, and so I'm wondering about that.
Well, I am, too.
Okay.
All right.
And, okay, thanks.
Thank you.
About things that we don't know, one way or the other, for sure, you can, one can only wonder.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
Yes, good morning, Mr. Bell.
This is Curtis from Lakewood, Colorado, listening to you on 630 KTOW.
Hello, Curtis.
I'd like to change the subject a little bit, if I could.
Absolutely.
My fiancé lives in St.
George, Utah.
Uh-huh.
And supposedly there was an earthquake about ten years ago there.
And they say you still feel them.
Tremors every, you know, a few times a week.
Right.
And I was just curious.
Never heard anything mentioned on your show about it.
Some of your guests talk about earthquakes and stuff.
Um, I've never heard it mentioned either.
I'm just curious if you know if they're aware of it or what.
Okay.
Alright, thanks sir.
Alright, thank you.
Maybe somebody will pop up with some info.
I don't know.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, uh, this is Gary from Jefferson City, Missouri.
Hi, Gary.
This is Art Bell.
Yes.
Yeah, the question I have for you this morning is, uh, why Don't we hear more about Zacharias Sitchin?
I've had him on the air many times.
No, that's not the question I want.
About more exploration and more research, or the Hubble telescope being pointed toward this twelfth planet that he says is out there?
Well, I don't know.
I don't have the slightest idea whether he could provide precise pointing data for the Hubble.
Nor do I know if it's close enough to even yet be seen by Hubble.
So I don't know any of that.
The reason I was asking is because when you get pictures back now from the Hubble telescope, you get galaxies and starbursts and black holes and so forth that seem to be Uh, several thousands of light years away from the Earth, but the 12th planet, according to him, is, although it has an orbit of about a trillion miles or something like that, anyway, it takes about 3,600 years to get around the Earth, around the Sun once, then it looks to me like that would be close enough to where we could probably see it if it was coming back on its return trip toward the Sun now, which I believe it is, in my estimation, in my calculations,
What do you base that on?
Well, I was basing it on the fact that if it coincides with the Jewish calendar, and we've got 360 days a year, each day being equal to a year of the 12th planet, then perhaps it would be on its return toward the earth now if If Christ, when he ascended into the heavens, after he was resurrected, and the clouds received him out of their sight, whether he went back to the planet heaven via a flying saucer, or whether he just went back on his own power, assuming that the 12th planet may be the planet heaven, and that this planet could be in our vicinity, and it also has inhabitants on it,
Boy, that's an awful bunch of presumptions there, though.
It really is.
But the thing is, this is how we discover a lot of things, you know, is by asking questions.
And so I'm asking this kind of a question, that if the twelfth planet and the planet Heaven are the same thing, then in crisis due to return, as a lot of people predict around Let me give you my take on it.
I don't think that heaven is a planet.
That's just my take.
I don't think heaven is a planet.
I don't think heaven is a physical place as we understand it, returning every 10,000 years or any amount of years.
If there is a heaven, a place where souls disembodied Souls reside, if there is such a place.
I don't think that it's in the physical plane.
But, then again, what do I know?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hi, Hartwell.
This is Dr. Singh.
Hello.
Hello, Hartwell.
Yes.
Dr. Singh here.
Yes, Dr. Singh.
I was hearing Peter Devon Porter, and I had told him about my experience of seeing the green light.
And, uh...
Just wanted to let you know what I saw.
And what did you see?
Well, I was traveling from the Space Assessor Society's meeting in Arizona, coming back from Arizona through Wairika, California.
And when I was near Vancouver, I saw a green light coming down vertically.
On what date, Doctor?
April 22nd?
April 22nd, 927.
Oh, Doctor, you should be calling Peter Davenport.
I have.
You are a, uh, trained observer, and, um, Davenport.
I have called him.
You have already called him?
Yes.
All right.
He had wanted me to, uh, send him a report, but there was something else that I, that happened that night.
And what was that?
That was that light, uh, who, who was in front of me, about a hundred, uh, 120, 150 feet.
I started writing down words that didn't mean anything to me until I spoke to my girlfriend and she told me that these are stars.
And then I spoke to Standing Elk, who is a close friend of Robert Goosebulls.
Yes.
And he told me that there are some meanings to this planet.
And at the end of this whole experience, I wrote a sentence saying, the belt is arranged, the belt is arranged, let me try to remember again, the belt is arranged with the goal of I can't remember it right now.
I have written it down, but it's not with me right now.
All right.
Well, I appreciate your report, Doctor, and I certainly appreciate your giving it to Peter Davenport.
There has been found a new comet, ladies and gentlemen.
There is an image of the comet, and I'll try and get a link to it.
Trying to get Keith to link to it.
I'm just getting the information now.
I mentioned this at 10 o'clock that I had heard that I had heard some rumors about a new comet.
And apparently Alan Hale has made some comments on this new comet.
Very, very interesting.
Let's see.
May 5, 1998, announces the discovery of C1998 J1 SOHO by S. Stesberger, I believe it is, of a bright comet in the northwestern corner of the field of view of the C3 coronagraph.
Now, this is something apparently found by the SOHO satellite.
That's the satellite that looks at what's going on in the sun.
And they found this 8 degrees from the sun.
The computed parabolic orbit by Marsden, that'd be Brian Marsden, indicates that, let's see, May 8th and 9th should be, uh, the May 8th and 9th, May 8th and 9th have already come and gone.
However, the comet is expected to move toward the southeast, may become visible as an evening object in the last half of May with the Southern Hemisphere favored.
Something to ponder.
Will this comet, or could this comet, be observable in the daytime?
So they're asking for comments on this.
Very, very interesting.
So in the Southern Hemisphere, toward the end of the month, if I'm interpreting this correctly, we may have a comet.
That may be observable during the day.
Wouldn't that be something?
Another comment.
Coming around the bend.
Coming around the sun.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
This is the dawning of the age of various.
Age of Aquarius!
Aquarius!
of Aquarius Aquarius
Aquarius harmony and understanding
My mind had fallen to the poetic surrender Oh yeah
And I have met my destiny in quite a similar way For the mystery book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself For you, I was defeated while you were
Waterloo Promise to love you forevermore
Waterloo Couldn't escape if I wanted you
Waterloo Knowing my fate is to be with you
Oh oh oh oh oh Waterloo
Finally facing my Premier Radio Network presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired May 12th, 1998.
Here's somebody who writes, Hey Art, would you please stop playing that rain dance bumper music?
It just might stop the raining in Nevada, we're sick of it.
I'm sick of it, too.
I don't think it's coming from my bumper music, but your point is well taken.
And once again, it is definitely pouring out there.
Oh boy, is it pouring.
And it's pouring weirdness in here, too.
I think somewhere behind that blanket of clouds and rain there is a full moon, isn't there?
Alright, back now to the phones.
Boy, am I getting some interesting responses on those photographs.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yes, this is Jack in Tempe, Arizona.
Hi, Jack.
Turn your radio off for us.
OK, it's off.
OK, thank you.
Cool.
Yep, cool.
What's on your mind?
I just wanted to talk about, I've got a theory about UFOs.
Oh, yes.
And my theory is that actually this is going to be a construction of the New World Order.
So then your theory is that they are of Earth and they are being... No.
No?
I believe that there has been aliens that came to Earth, but I think they're not really interested, because we're not very interested.
But I think the government's taken some of that technology and they're going to put it to their own use to impose a new world order.
Well, they sure aren't doing much of a very good job of it just yet.
The world is in more disorder than ever.
If there's any new world order out there, even at a subterranean level, politically, then what the hell's going on in India?
Good point.
It is.
I appreciate your call, sir.
Thank you.
I mean, the whole mess is about to fall apart over there.
As someone faxed me, it's just going to be a big pissing contest, a nuclear pissing contest.
Pakistan is definitely going to feel that if they've got it, they've got to show it now.
China is going to certainly jump back into the fray.
Japan and Korea are not going to be happy campers at all.
So we should hope the diplomatic movers and shakers can lock this one down quickly, or else.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
Yeah, hi.
Hello.
Yes, hello.
Art Bell, I'm on the internet right now.
Yes.
On your web address.
Yes, sir.
I'm listening to a caller just talking about his theory about the UFOs.
Yeah, that was the last call.
Just turn the sound off.
Okay.
Can you hear it now?
I don't want to hear it at all.
In other words, you're on the air now, so just turn it off and say what you want to say.
Okay.
It's not really a theory.
I'm sure about this, that they're not extraterrestrial.
These UFOs are intra-terrestrial.
I believe they come from under the ground.
I believe that they're demonic in origin.
They don't come from outer space, but they would like you to believe that they are from outer space.
Why are demons necessarily from under the ground?
Well, they don't have to be from under the ground, but I know that this particular phenomenon of UFOs, people complain a lot about them having a smell of sulfur.
Why would UFOs care particularly about our nuclear installations?
Why would demons care about them?
I don't know.
I don't know that answer.
But my second question... I didn't know that was a question, but go ahead.
Well, my second... Comment?
Comment, yeah, is you had a guy on about three or four weeks ago that talked about some type of Uh, pictures that he was seeing, if you were looking at a mountain from a different angle, you could see, like, these, uh... Oh, we've got them posted on the internet, yeah.
Yeah, I'm at your site right now, and I'm trying to find it.
Um, well, it's no longer in the updates section.
Okay, what's the title of it?
Uh, well, it's from Robert Ghostwolf, so if you go to the links, you know, go down to the bottom of the page and jump to the links, just look for a link to Robert Ghostwolf.
Okay, thank you.
You're welcome, take care.
Long card line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Oh, hi Art.
Bill from Youngstown, Ohio.
Hi Bill.
Hi.
Two things.
I want to relate a very bizarre tape incident.
I thought of it when that woman called with the ghost tape.
And I'd like to ask you if you'd be curious to try an experiment since it's open line.
About 10 years ago, I got a call from a lady in Pennsylvania.
She's about an hour from here and she was very, very sad.
She was losing her house.
And I used to be a guest on your affiliate here for several years.
So she knew I was psychic and could I help her?
And I said, uh, she couldn't afford to come and have a reading so I, I don't know, it just came to me.
I said, play 528 on the daily number in Pennsylvania.
Well, wouldn't you know, the next day it came out straight.
She hit for $10,000.
Really?
Yeah.
She saved her house and had cushion money.
So she called me to give me the good news.
And then she said, I must come out and see you for reading.
She came up and she brought her son.
Hopefully, by now, she had enough money to pay for it.
Oh, well, she paid me for the reading, but I didn't want anything.
I was just so happy that she got her bail out.
But anyway, she wanted to take... Can you do this on a regular basis?
What?
You mean give numbers?
Yeah.
Well, when I was in WKBN, I was on a couple times a month, and I used to give numbers, and people used to say it all the time.
Sure.
Send me a number.
What, for Nevada?
Uh, California's got the big one.
Oh, well, these are three-digit and four-digit numbers.
They're called the daily numbers.
I see.
But anyway, this gets more interesting.
She came up after this happened, and she wanted to have a reading with me.
And she wanted to tape it, so I said that was fine.
Early in the reading, I said to her, who's Michael?
And she said she didn't know of any Michael that was close to her, and so I moved on with the reading.
Yes.
Now, where she lives is an hour from here, down in Manaca, Pennsylvania.
A couple hours later, she arrived home, she called me back, and her son had set in to listen to the reading with her permission.
Yes.
She was hysterical.
She started to listen to the tape, and at the point, and she played it through the phone for me, where I said, who's Michael?
A voice, an unknown voice, it was a male voice, started screaming, stop telling her about Michael, I don't want to hear about Michael.
And this went on for about 30 seconds, scared the hell out of me.
Do you have that tape?
No, what happened, I...
I talked to a guy in New York who's into the research part of this, and he said to me that a ghost voice on a tape, if it's measured by an oscilloscope, has a different reading than a human voice.
So I tried to get back to her, and she never wanted to speak to me after that.
Well, that's too bad.
The evidence is talks, and I'm afraid oscilloscope traces walk.
But Sandy, who called before the end of the last hour and played that tape, that one gave me serious hackles up and down the spine.
That was really freaky.
Now an oscilloscope can only show you voice patterns.
It can show you the frequency response of a voice.
And a voice can have a very wide range indeed.
And so seeing an unusual trace during some unusual voice wouldn't I'm in Port Gamble, Washington.
My name is Buddy.
on the air.
Hello.
Turn your radio off.
Right.
Good for you.
Where are you?
I'm in Port Gamble, Washington.
Okay.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Go ahead.
Okay.
My name is Buddy.
Yes, Buddy.
And I'm calling in regards to the 22nd of April.
Yes.
And here where I work, it's very open space here, and we see all kinds of stuff in the
sky all the time.
Yes.
And, uh, we did see, I did see, a green light.
Well, Banger is approximately three miles from where I am.
Oh, here we go again.
Yes.
And I seen a green light down in that area.
You did?
Yes, I did.
It was approximately between 9 and 9.30 at evening.
Have you reported this to Peter Davenport?
No, I did not.
And I also would like to tell you something else.
What?
Several times, up here, we have seen lights, big white lights, traveling up and down the sound out here.
In the vicinity of Bangor.
About, oh, every other week.
Approximately between nine and midnight.
What do you think you're seeing?
Well, it's hard to say.
It's hugely bright lights, and one of them came over the site where I work and lit up approximately 27 acres of land.
Holy smokes!
Really?
So I thought I'd call and let you know.
I was trying to get a hold of you since the 22nd to let you know about it.
Well, I definitely appreciate it.
Thank you very, very much, and I'm just notified we have... The website, of course, is horrendously busy tonight, so bear with us, please.
But here's what I think we've got.
We've got an image of this new comet.
It comes from the SOHO satellite.
The SOHO satellite is a project of international cooperation between ESA and NASA.
It watches the sun, and apparently a SOHO image caught this comet.
And yes, we've got it on the website now.
Boy, talk about a night when things just happen one after another after another after another.
So if you go to the website, you can take a look at this new comet,
and we are being told that it may be bright enough toward the end of this month
in southern latitudes to be able to be seen during daylight hours.
I bet the producers of Deep Impact ordered this one up.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hello.
Hello?
Hello, turn your radio off, please.
Turn it right off, John.
Yeah, John, turn it off.
Yeah, one second.
Turn it off.
Okay.
It can only hold for another moment.
Okay.
All right.
Sorry about that.
Where are you?
I'm in St.
Louis.
Yes, sir.
I was just calling with regards to the lady that had the tape recording.
Yeah, was that weird or what?
I don't know if I'm all... if I buy into it.
I feel like I've got an open mind, Art, but I just don't know if what you had was really foolproof.
Foolproof?
Oh, and the reason I say that... Is anything like this ever going to be foolproof?
I agree 100%.
But my only concern is... Alright, I've got to leave the line.
I'm sorry.
When I ask you to turn the radio off, I mean what I say.
And when you have a friend who can't resist turning it back on in the background, that's going to get you offline real quick.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah.
Who have I got?
Who do you want?
I'm looking for Art Bell.
That's who you found.
Are you Art Bell?
Well, I seem to be.
Oh, okay.
Well, the only reason... I certainly resemble him.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's time delay, obviously.
Obviously.
From the radio.
Okay, anyway, I'm Wolf, and I'm from down out of Spokane.
Your name is Wolf?
Right.
How'd you get that name?
My mother was a strange person.
Her name was Zayla.
Zayla?
Yeah.
Zayla named you Wolf?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm not real happy about it, but then... Why?
Hey, anyway, what I'd like to do, can I talk to you about something besides the interplanetary, you know what?
What, Wolf?
Anything that's on your find?
Yes, go right ahead.
Hey, listen, I've got a letter, too.
I'm sure you've heard it all.
Oh, I have.
I would like to ask you something to ask Robert Ghost-Wolf, believe it or not.
What?
I listened to you the other day.
I haven't heard you for a long, long time.
Well, I've never heard you.
Well, thank you, I know that.
I've been trying to get in, but like everybody else... Well, anyway, you're here, so what do you want me to ask Robert?
Listen, when he was talking about he'd gone off somewhere and found this bunch of statues and things like this... Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Now, somebody mentioned something about birds, and he made the mention of thunderbirds.
Yes.
Okay, now, I want to know whether I'm nuts Or I actually saw what I think I saw.
In the pictures?
No.
No, I know nothing about computers.
I was watching a Channel 9 PBS in Seattle station, and I got into the middle of the program, so I don't know the name of it or anything, but I think it was probably Strange Natures or something.
And it was talking about, when I got into it, I thought they were talking about wolves taking a child about 10 years old, and I finally found out that this happened around 70... In fact, this has happened, yes.
Okay, but this was not wolves.
It turned out that these were huge birds, apparently in 76, I believe they said, in Mexico, Giant birds swooping down and grabbing babies?
Well, I guess it was 76, some young... Birds bagging little bundles of babies?
That's horrible!
No, no, no, no, now listen.
This kid apparently was 10 years old at the time and he let out a scream and his father thought a wolf had grabbed him.
And he went running, and this kid was being, apparently being, trying to be lifted off the ground by this thing.
A ten-year-old?
A ten-year-old kid.
Well, that's even worse.
He was a small child.
That's even worse.
And the father managed to get him.
Now, that's where I got in, so I'm unclear of that, but... Alright, well, listen, we'll throw it out for the audience and see what they have to say.
The whole idea, though, of giant birds swooping down and picking up ten-year-olds...
We're talking pterodactyls here.
Something gigantic.
Prehistoric.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, baboom!
Art Bell, how are ya?
Well, reasonably alright.
Who's this?
This is the Bronx Brother.
Alright, welcome to the show.
Welcome, how've you been?
I have been very well indeed.
Very good, I'm very happy to hear that you're number one in New York.
Pretty cool, huh?
Very cool.
Yesterday, Kathy from New Jersey, in the first hour of the program, called up and played this really cool promo that WABC is playing.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, it's very enjoyable.
First time I ever heard it.
Can you turn your radio off, please?
That's right.
Yes, I know.
I'm going to have that engraved on something and wear it.
Too much.
Anyway, what's up?
Same old, same old.
But I haven't spoken to you for quite a while.
That's true.
See, but since I like you so much, I won't tell your listeners what you happen to say about New York people when we used to speak.
I deny it.
Of course you would.
I deny it.
I can't... I won't put you through that.
You've got to admit though, and even New Yorkers probably have to admit, that New Yorkers are a bit of a different breed?
Yes, this is true.
Cosmopolitan to a certain degree.
Cosmopolitan would be a word.
Yes.
I would say, I would say, if you're coming to New York City for the first time from Kansas... Mm-hmm.
There ain't Kansas no more, Toto.
New York is a very unusual place, and you are very unusual people.
Yes, well, you know, it's really changed since Disney took over Times Square.
It pushed all the girls uptown a little bit.
Yeah, well, I kind of like the way they did the promo.
They said Art Bell couldn't work in New York or something or another.
Oh, yeah.
No, you'll go anywhere, man.
Well, I don't know about that, but certainly we are in New York.
Now, I was wondering about the international line.
Oh, what about it?
Well, when are you ever getting calls from, like, Senegal?
Senegal?
Well, you know what?
It requires that people have the Internet.
And I don't know the last time you were in Senegal how easy or hard it was to get the Internet.
I would imagine nearly impossible.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know.
So generally the calls, the international calls, come from areas where people can at some reasonable cost get the Internet.
And in the third world right now, it is either totally unavailable or so expensive that you can't get it.
So do you think if... Now, maybe we could do this.
New Yorkers are so different that maybe we could make them eligible for the international line.
Listen, on that note, I've got to go.
Thank you very much.
Good hearing from you again.
And we are happy indeed about, of course, being number one in New York and so many other places.
I'm so in love with this song.
It goes out to Ramona for me.
We'll be right back.
This is Coast to Coast AM on a very strange, I think full moon night up there behind the clouds somewhere.
You're listening to ArcBell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
You know I need your love.
You've got that hold over me.
Long as I got your love, you know that I'll never leave.
When I wanted you to share my life, I had no doubt in my mind.
It's been you, woman, right down the line.
I know how much I lean on you, only you can see It changes it up in shoes, I've got the mark on me
me. You.
You've been as constant as another's cold old tree It stands beside the river where you were to meet me
On the ground your glove I found with a note addressed to me
It read, dear love, I've done you wrong now I must set you free
No longer can I live with this hurt and this sin.
I just couldn't tell you that guy was just a friend.
Moody River, You're listening to ArcBell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from May 12th, 1998.
Good morning everybody, great to be here, Open Lines.
we're doing whatever you want to do this night all right back to open lines we go uh... west of the rockies
you're on the air Oh, hi.
Wow, I actually got on.
Actually, yes.
Well, I have some, uh, oh, you probably want my name.
My name's Israel from Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Israel, huh?
Yeah.
Pretty good name.
Well, I used to not think so.
I've gotten used to it by now.
Um, let me see.
Uh, okay.
Remember that woman who called about the ghost?
Yes.
Well, when I was little, I used to play around with tape recorders before, and one of mine broke.
And, like, uh, I Uh, it would, it would play and record really fast.
Right.
And basically that's what it sounded like to me.
Well, except, yeah, it did to me to accept that.
Um, here were the little girls playing with this, and the little girls had taped there several times, so.
Yeah, well, I have, I have something here, where it's the original thing, but then, and then after that it sped up.
Uh, well, I've, I've heard tapes go into the stretch mode.
Yeah.
I think we've all played tapes where suddenly they stretch.
No, I mean, I have what we heard on the radio.
Oh, you do?
Yeah.
I have the original and then sped up.
Alright, go ahead.
Okay.
Let's hear it.
Might not sound that great.
Well...
Sounds terrible.
Actually, actually it sounded terrible.
Yeah, I know it sounded terrible.
So it was hard to decide.
I don't happen to have a direct thing going from my computer to the phone.
Yeah, I understand.
It was on the computer.
Actually, if you want to know the truth, I thought it sounded weird both ways.
I appreciate the call, sir.
People do that.
They grab things off the air and then redo them.
But I thought that sounded weird both ways.
How about you?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
I know what that picture is on your web page.
Which one are you referring to, sir?
That one you want to know what it was.
Oh, yes.
There's two of them, actually.
Hello?
What it is is a way to create hits on your web page.
Well, I'm sure it does that.
Is that it?
I guess that's it, you know.
Yeah, it creates hits.
We don't need that.
We've got a comet tonight.
A brand new comet.
Want to see it?
It's up on the website.
That's a way to create hits.
We have the rendition supplied tonight by Peter Davenport of what was seen in Washington.
That certainly supplies website hits.
And we do have these two things that I've been holding for about two months now.
And they definitely provide website hits.
Actually, it took the site down earlier tonight.
So yeah, you're right.
It creates website hits.
And I get a dollar for each one.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
This is Sue from California.
Hello, Sue.
How are you?
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
I really enjoy your show.
Thank you.
Two things.
I was wondering if you could check and see if the folks in Bloomington, Illinois are okay.
I've got a mother back there and I heard they had tornadoes back there.
Uh, yes.
On my show or did you hear it elsewhere?
On your show, sir.
And I was wondering if there's any way that I could get on a cassette tape or whatever the song about the little green aliens that you play every once in a while.
The little green aliens?
You know, about, I don't want to be a doctor.
You know, about the outer space, gonna lay on the table, gonna die of fright?
That one?
Oh, I think I know what you're talking about.
Well, it's on a CD, and it was done especially for me, and I think I know the one that you're talking about.
That one.
Let me see.
Hold on here.
Hold on a second, alright?
Okay, hold on.
Please, Lord, if I'm abducted, don't let it be the grace The short little guys with the big black eyes from a galaxy far away.
Is that the one?
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
I love that.
I'll see what I can do.
In other words, it's on a CD.
I can give you my address off the air if you want it or whatever.
Well, here's my problem.
If I do that, if I say yes, then I'll get a million good... Oh, I know it.
I know it.
I know it.
So, let us not talk of this now.
No.
Send me a letter or something.
Okay.
How's that?
All right?
I will do that.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Take care.
It's the only copy of it that I know of.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Thank you.
How you doing?
This is Marco calling you from Houston.
Yes, sir.
Would you turn your radio off, please?
Yes, I'm doing so now.
That's good.
Houston, huh?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
I always listen to your show, Art, and it's a very great show.
Two questions, or two comments.
One about the The Haze.
It is imminent and what I've heard is that they're burning land to make way for farm land.
In Mexico?
In Mexico.
That's what I've heard on the news.
I don't know if it's true or not.
Well, I have heard about these outrageous temperatures of 118 degrees plus.
That's the first I've heard.
Oh no, I know that's so.
And then I've also heard about this haze and I hadn't heard that they were burning to clear land for farming, but it could be that.
They've done that, of course, down in the rainforest.
Right.
On a continuing basis, so it could be that.
And, well, that bears to mind global warming and what have you, and, you know, the sun bearing down, we're going to melt.
Oh, please.
We're going to melt.
118 degrees?
What?
120, 125 is the most a body could withstand.
You can take, it's life-threatening, but you can take 118 degrees.
Now, what it's doing being that hot down there right now, I don't know.
Okay.
My second question to you, going back to space exploration?
Yes.
UFOs and stuff like that?
Yes.
I was in Germany with the U.S.
Armed Forces in a place called the Black Forest on tanks.
Right.
It was so dark, and this was about 12, 31 o'clock in the morning, that you couldn't see in front of your face, your hand.
I looked up to the sky, and I see what was not a satellite, not a plane, not a helicopter, but a star that just came straight down, stopped, and went the opposite direction, and disappeared.
It was not a star.
I told somebody this, and they looked at me and thought I was crazy.
Stars, stars, don't do that, sir.
What you saw was not a star, I guarantee.
International Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
All right.
Yes.
You're doing great.
How you doing?
Good.
Storm Chaser, Northern Alberta.
Yes, sir.
Northern Lights, they were great.
When have you been seeing them?
Oh, last week was incredible.
That, I knew it.
I knew it.
I have never seen one.
We still get enough darkness here.
I knew it.
I knew it.
And I'm hoping that the activity resumes because by Friday I'll be on my way to Ketchikan.
And Ketchikan ought to be an ideal place.
Headed south toward Vancouver from there should be ideal for observing Northern Lights.
You're going to love it.
You really are.
I know.
I'm looking forward to it.
Interesting pics.
And I don't think it's no smog from a chimney.
You've seen the pictures that that guy just referred to.
I had to race home and check out on the site because Omaha wasn't coming in too good on AM.
Well, just give it to me.
What do you think they are?
Nuclear.
Alright, alright, that's what everybody's saying.
That's not everybody.
There are some people who have said that it's a burned film or something or another, but those who seem to know I'm sitting here with a gazillion faxes and I could read them from people who know, and I had a feeling when I received these in the first place that that's exactly what they were, was nuclear detonations, but I didn't want to say so until enough people had a chance to take a look.
I didn't want to leap to that.
I mean, I can't, without identifying the person, Say any more about them, at least not right now, but I agree.
That's what they are.
I'll go into a little bit more detail for you.
Hopefully the sun, the starburst, or the radiation from the sun is still coming through pretty strong.
I've actually seen Aurora 45 degrees to the south and a big starburst above, which is kind of rare.
and had three colors, purple, white, and green to the north.
Right.
Mostly in a big dome.
But the one 45 degrees to the south, I guarantee you, northern Wyoming was getting a view of
that one.
Yes, sir.
I'm sure they were, and I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you very much for the assessment.
All right, let me read you a couple of faxes I've got, right?
These were photographs that were sent to me two months ago, and I think I told you about them when I got them, and I told you at the time that I thought that the photographs had some sort of... possibly had a national security...
concern about them I don't and I'm I'm not going to tell you who sent them to me because he was sure he would lose his job for doing so and so I'm simply not going you know based on my promise I I promised I'm not going to say anything about it at least here on the air but I held them for fully for at least what would you guys say two months And people have been bugging me, put him up, put him up.
So finally I did.
I'm sure a few days ago I said I was on the verge of doing it.
And of course tonight we got the news about the nuclear testing in India.
So I think that probably affected my thinking on it.
And I called Keith just before air time, like about five minutes and said, put him up.
I said, don't, please don't suggest what the photographs are.
Please just put them up and let people take a look.
It's either, obviously, either aerial or satellite imagery.
Let me read a couple of faxes, alright?
Art, I am a nuclear scientist at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in South Central Washington State.
I've been in this field of science for the past 16 years.
I have, in capitals, no doubt whatsoever After viewing these images, that you have photos of a nuclear explosion, in my opinion, it looks like an underground test detonation.
I have in my possession satellite photos of what occurred at Chernobyl, and they look very similar.
Or this.
Please withhold my name.
Art, as an individual with a modicum of knowledge in physics, optics, and satellites, I would conclude as follows.
Image 1 and 2 appear to indicate a near-ground nuclear burst.
2.
Both images show signs of the refractive image of the shock wave of the detonation.
3.
The resolution is poor.
4.
Image 2 has evidence of film damage and or overexposure due to energy flux in initial milliseconds of burst.
This would not be evident in a typical chemical explosion.
And so forth.
Another one.
The two satellite photos appear to be a small, low-yield nuclear explosion set off perhaps above ground, desert terrain.
Street layout is not modern, probably over an old area of a Middle Eastern city.
Leads to speculation it is over Iraq.
Speculation only.
Designed to produce an electromagnetic pulse EMP To disrupt regional communications and electronics.
A Gulf War incident, question mark.
I don't have the answer to all of this, but there is some... Here's another one.
I'll read you another one.
I've just been grabbing them as they've been coming in.
Mr. Bell, I'm not involved in satellite photography per se, but my background is in photography.
And I've spent some time looking at aerial photographs.
For what it's worth, here is my opinion on this and that.
That does indeed look like a nuclear test of some kind.
Kind of like the old film of the Pacific H-bomb tests.
This, on the other hand, looks not to be underground, but rather above ground.
Consider the large, white, circular part of the photo to be not a circle, but rather a sphere.
With the sun positioned in that sky toward what would be the top of the photograph.
If you cast a light on a suspended sphere from such an angle, it would cast a shadow over the same shape as the dark gray area of the photograph.
Possible?
Question mark.
So, there you have it and many more just like that.
Now you see why I held these photos.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hey Art, this is Andy from Laurel, Mississippi.
Hello Andy.
Art, a question to you and some of your listeners.
Has anyone seen any Eastern European vehicles in this country, perhaps painted white at this time?
Have you heard of this?
Not me.
Okay.
There's a small community north of Gulfport, Mississippi called Socher.
There's a company there That has these Eastern European vehicles.
They used to be green, now they're painted white.
They got a big lot of them.
What do you think they're doing?
Well, all it needs to be painted on them is two letters.
Oh, what's that?
UN?
You got it.
Can I give you the name of the company?
No, don't do that.
It's not necessary anyway.
So you think they're getting ready.
They've got all these vehicles positioned.
Around the country, and at the exact moment of takeover, they're going to slam up the U.N.
symbol, and that'll be it for us.
Could be.
I've got an uncle that lives in New Orleans, and they've got a depot of them down there.
And we'll all be slaves to the damn U.N., huh?
Could be.
Could very well be.
Live free or die, sir.
Yes.
But I'll tell you, this India thing, too, is...
You know, we've had nukes for a long time, and so has the Soviet Union, and if somebody else wants to experiment with them, I mean, you know, we're a free country, why can't we be a free world?
Well, I guess we can be, but when it comes to things nuclear, if they experiment with it, which they have already, past tense, and then Pakistan blows one off, and then China blows one off, And then North Korea blows one off.
Just sort of humor me here and tell me where you think that's going to lead.
Well, I don't know, but it could be just experimental.
I'd rather have the white trucks.
Have a good night, sir.
You too.
See you later.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, this is Kurt from Richmond, Washington, home of the atomic bomb.
Yes, sir.
Comment on that lady about the big bird.
I've seen that on a show myself.
You're telling me you saw a story that purported to be true that said a bird big enough to carry a 10-year-old child off.
Yep.
You've got to be kidding.
I figured, well, I'm scratching Mexico off my vacation list.
I hear you.
It sounds very pterodactyl-like to me.
I'll say.
Yeah, that's where it was really weird.
So you saw this?
Yeah.
Did they happen to show the bird?
No.
Oh, good.
No, they never did show the bird.
They just talked about it.
Thought that was pretty wild myself.
We've got birds here in the Pahrump Valley where I live that are big enough to carry a cat off.
Jeez.
And I thought that was bad.
That's a big bird.
But I'm with you.
I'm canceling my next vacation.
I had a comment on your last night show, and I kind of have the same view as you as far as heaven not being a planet, but I kind of think it's in like a different dimension, but still in the physical realm where it's an existing world.
Well, I think that you would be aware of yourself.
You would be self-aware, but I don't think that it would be a planet like that person was describing, that heaven would be a planet.
No.
I don't think so either.
I know that one of the rags that you see in the grocery store, they had a picture of heaven that they claimed was taken by the Hubble telescope.
It was this kingdom-like place that they claim they took a photograph of light years out.
Really looked cool.
I would like to have seen that.
Floating out there in space.
But you know, in the Bible, Christ came back and he said to his disciples, touch me, look at me, I'm flesh and bone.
And then he went off to heaven.
And I could view him taking off.
You know, as you watch a plane take off, and as you watch it, before you know it, it's out of sight, you can't see it anymore?
Yes.
I kind of visioned him, that's what happened when he took off to heaven.
And then he went into like a different dimension.
Just sort of... until he was a dot and then gone.
Yeah.
All right, sir.
I appreciate it.
Maybe like that UFO that Peter described, Peter Davenport, that stood in one place and words of the witness grew a tail and then... like that.
Now, that reminds me of Star Trek all the way.
You know, when they go into a warp drive, they sit there for a second, and then... And that's exactly what that witness described.
All right, we'll be back shortly.
Bottom of the hour, this is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
Don't touch that dial.
You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 12th, 1998.
I know that I must do what's right.
Sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti.
I seek to cure what's deep inside.
Frightened of this thing that I've become.
Gonna take the life to take me away from you.
On your mark.
Get set.
Go.
OK.
Go.
Oh, I'm a little bit sad.
I thought those lyrics would work particularly well this morning.
Every time I think about it, I want to cry.
You're listening to Arc Bell, Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from May 12, 1998.
Good morning.
I thought those lyrics would work particularly well this morning.
Give you some idea of how seriously all of this is viewed.
Here's an article entitled, US.
Intelligence Under Fire in Wake of India's Nuclear Tests.
Washington.
The U.S.' 's inability to foresee or forestall India's nuclear tests, despite ample warnings, was a failure of both the CIA and U.S.
foreign policy makers.
After the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee called it, quote, the intelligence failure of the decade, end quote, CIA Director George Tenet asked retired Admiral David Jeremiah, a former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to lead a 10-day investigation into the intelligence community's failure to detect preparations at the site in the Indian Desert.
The site has been under periodic surveillance by photoreconnaissance and electronic eavesdropping satellites, which recorded increasing activity.
But the images and activities they recorded in recent days were not interpreted clearly or quickly by the CIA.
That oversight constituted, quote, a colossal failure on the part of our intelligence agencies, end quote.
That's Chairman Richard Selby, Republican from Alabama.
He said something went wrong, something, somebody failed to do their job to let this slip up on our policy makers.
The President, the Secretary of State, without a chance to intervene in some way diplomatically with India, was a huge intelligence failure.
If we had an inkling that they were going to detonate one or more nuclear weapons, perhaps we could have intervened.
We certainly would have tried.
They didn't just fool the CIA, they fooled the entire U.S.
government.
And I'm first to admit they fooled me too, said a senior administration official.
We were all just lulled into thinking they wouldn't do anything regarding nuclear weapons.
They let us believe they were not going to do anything, Precipitous.
We made the mistake of assuming they would act rationally.
Others said warning signs were everywhere to be read by diplomats as well as spies.
The announced intentions of the new Hindu nationalist government to make nuclear weapons part of its arsenal The published pronouncements of India's Atomic Weapons Commissioner, who said two months ago that he was ready to test if political leaders gave the go-ahead, and then of course recent missile tests by Pakistan, all but dared New Delhi to respond.
Obviously they have.
So that gives you some idea of how seriously Very seriously, this is being viewed right now, and I thought I would read that to you.
Alright, I want to warn you of something coming up next week.
It's like one thing after another.
Dr. Roger Lear, who's kind of a partner of Daryl Sims, called me.
And he said, Art, I have a general class officer Who is ready to reveal some very, very startling information.
And I actually have that information here.
I don't want to... I don't yet want to read that because I don't want to, in any way, allow anybody to get to this general class officer before he does his show.
It's coming up Tuesday.
I'll read you what Dr. Lear sent to me.
Our two guests, myself, Dr. Roger Lear, and General A. You may refer to him in that manner.
The General has consented to come on the air for two reasons.
The first is a personal favor to me.
To Dr. Lear, in other words.
And the other has to do with the credibility of your radio program.
He is very familiar with it.
I've known this gentleman for over 30 years.
Remember, this is Dr. Lear speaking.
And his character is impeccable.
He is an officer in the Air Force Reserve and just recently attained the rank of general.
He has a long history of government involvement and this extended directly to the White House.
He had personal close involvement with President Johnson and other presidents that followed.
He currently is communicative with the administration now in the White House.
The only way he would agree to make public statements is to have his voice disguised.
Even with this, As a small cover of safety, he still has fears of possible retribution.
When questioned, he will give straightforward answers to the extent of what he feels he can relay publicly.
If he can't answer, he will tell you.
Now there's a little Tuesday teaser.
It's coming up Tuesday.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning, Art.
Hello.
How you doing?
I'm all right.
Kind of a weird night.
It is.
My name's Paul.
Yes, Paul.
I sent you a fax a little while ago.
Um, Paul, if you could see my room right now, it looks like a small mountain of old faxes.
Okay, well, I'm the scientist from Hanford.
Oh, oh, Paul, that Paul.
Yes, sir.
Um, welcome to the program, Paul.
Um, let me see if I can find your fax.
I just read it on the air not long ago.
It's in here someplace.
At any rate, you have been working in the nuclear industry, you said, I think for 16 years?
Right.
Correct.
Okay.
What can you tell me about what you're seeing in these photographs?
Well, I got on the site, I downloaded them, they're on my machine.
The first one came out, the second one didn't.
I haven't been able to get back on.
Okay, it's real busy up there.
I have photos of nuclear blasts and I've only seen three types of photos that have such a bright white or bright light if you will center such as that and all of them have been nuclear and if you were let's talk let's call the all the top of the picture north All right.
If you were to go north to where you were just over the center of the blast, it would be a perfect circle, pretty much as it is there.
And then the shadow line around would also be a perfect circle, which would indicate a mushroom cloud, if you will, or a mushroom blast.
So you're pretty certain of what you're looking at then?
Yes, definitely.
Yeah, like I said in the fax, I've got some photos of Chernobyl and some satellite images of that when it went.
And they are very, very similar.
Well, all I can say is this.
I received these photographs two months ago from a source outside the U.S., way outside.
Um, it was claimed that this detonation was in a place where, you know, I'm not an expert in this sort of thing, and I didn't know what, it sort of looked nuclear to me too, but who am I?
And the source indicated that, in fact, that's what it was.
And it was in a place where, if it's true, we should all be really worried.
And that's, I guess, all I can say, and should say, and will say.
I don't want this person to lose their job, but on the other hand, if it is what you're saying it is, then it's got national security implications.
And what the hell am I supposed to do with it?
Just sit on the photographs and not put them up there?
So I decided to put them up there and just ask the simple question, what is this?
What is that?
Right.
Well, like I said, I have no doubt whatsoever.
The area I'm not positive, but again, it's kind of far-fetched, but I've got a lot of photos.
I think I'm going to print this out and do some comparison.
Alright, anything you can come up with, I would very much appreciate, alright?
Okay, I do have your address.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
I mean, what would you do with something like this?
The person sent it to me two months ago, and they said, Art, please don't release this.
I'll get fired.
And he said more, and a lot more, and I just, I can't give that on the air.
And I looked at them and I thought, good God, these look like nuclear detonations to me.
Or two separate photographs, two photographs of the same incident.
And if that's really what it is, then this is a very, really serious thing.
Because that means there is a nuclear presence where there definitely ought not be.
And it means we knew about it.
And we know about it.
And so what are you going to do with photographs like this?
The only safe thing I figured to do eventually was to post them.
I gave notice on the air several times to this person outside the country that I was going to do it.
Not hearing from him, I have now done it.
You be the judge of what it is.
And I'm sure the news of the day about India worked on my little brain before air time to call up Keith and say, OK, Keith, that's it.
Keith has had the photographs all this time.
And I finally called Keith and I said, do it, post them.
Go ahead and post them.
So that's as much of the story as I can tell.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
I have two things to tell you.
One, we had a mutilation of a cow in northern New Mexico.
Oh, I've been hearing that New Mexico has been like a hotspot for that recently.
Yeah, I guess so.
It's kind of gross.
But you want to hear something else about a cow?
Because last month you had somebody talking about different things animals do.
Oh, right.
Okay, I was on a ranch and this farmer, he was blind.
Yes.
You know, he went blind.
Yes.
And this cow, all by herself, used to just come up and pick him up at the gate and he used to put his arms around her and she'd lead him to the barn and, you know, she'd sort of hang around where he was at and she'd help go get the other cows up and everything else.
Nobody taught this cow how to do that.
It just did it by itself.
I love hamburgers.
I thought you might.
Like, I tried calling when she was on, but I couldn't get through.
Hamburger's almost been my favorite food for most of my adult life.
But I loved going over there and helping with the fences because I loved just watching her.
I mean, it was so cool.
Is it enough to make you stop eating burgers and steaks and stuff?
Oh, I don't eat much meat anyway.
Mostly fish and junk.
Fish and junk food?
Well, not junk food.
All right.
Well, thanks for the guilt.
Yeah.
Bye-bye.
I'll see you later.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Mr. Bell.
Yes, sir.
I listen to your show a lot, and sometimes I disagree with it, but I always like to listen to your show.
Well, I feel the same way about it.
I listen a lot, and sometimes I disagree, too.
Something's really bothering me.
What?
I normally try to get through once or twice.
I've been trying all night tonight.
This is on the scale of the quickening that you wrote about, and at the risk of sounding like a wild card caller, I'm going to say this.
This is the truth, and I'm telling you my perspective as I've heard the news over the last three or four days from where I'm at in East Texas.
Four days ago, Mexico had to close its schools in its major cities because temperatures there in the morning reached over 118 degrees.
118 degrees, yep.
I can verify what you're saying.
In fact, several were killed by it.
Let me tell you something.
Before you go on, we've got plenty of time, don't worry.
Do you know that here in the desert, where I am right now, I live near Death Valley.
And that is one of the hottest spots in our nation, right?
This is now the month of May.
Do you know that the temperature here now is in the 40s?
That it's in the 40s, sir?
And during the day, not going better than the 50s, and it's raining, and it's been this way all year so far.
I'm telling you, something is really, really, really wrong.
And then we hear that in Mexico, it's going to 118 degrees, that the air pollution is so bad, That they're closing schools and industry.
Mr. Bell, I am in agreement with everything you just said, and I'm really shook up.
Tonight, 55 counties along the American Gulf of Mexico are in a health warning standard right now.
The whole thing is because of an air pollution index.
It has just come about tonight.
There are more than 2,000 miles of Mexico on fire, and the country of Guatemala is on fire.
what i'm what i'm going to my mind is that this is solar related
What?
this doesn't have anything to do with people out there like fires are like
these this is solar related
right now right now as we speak i just got the news on w o a i out of san
antonio sir there are thousands of miles of near the border to
uh... a texas border that are on fire Are you sure of what you're saying?
Are you sure of it?
I'm shook up, and I'm sure of what I'm saying, and at the risk of sounding like a wild card caller, I know that you're going to find this out in the media.
I know this is going to come out tomorrow.
I know it will.
I don't know if they're going to say it's solar related.
All right, you heard a WOAI report on the fires, huh?
What they said was, Mexico and Guatemala are on fire and that the health warnings are from Texas to Florida because of the smoke coming across the Gulf.
That's exactly what I heard.
I guess I'll add to the fire here.
I've been getting intermittent reports all day long which I've been waiting to verify that people in Texas, where you are, are having trouble with haze Because of all the fires?
Tonight it was clear, and I was looking at the full moon while you were talking about the rain.
And right now, it's covered with smoke, and it's not clouds.
You can see through the clouds.
There are big billows coming over, and you can see the moon through them, and it's a brown haze.
So, you know, I was shook up when I started to hear this.
At first, I thought, well, there's another fire.
And then I thought, somebody has to tell Art Bell about this.
No, these are fires that are crossing continents, folks.
So, again, Guatemala... I mean, to say a country is on fire... They said that there's extremely large areas of Guatemala that are on fire and extremely... Somebody said 2,000 miles.
I heard it on the news.
All right.
I appreciate the report.
Okie doke.
Thank you.
And I cannot verify all of what he said, but I can verify parts of what he said.
Indeed, there has been unattributable haze in Texas from something.
I've been getting a lot of reports.
I did note the reports of 118 degree temperatures in Mexico, the closing of schools and industry because of pollution that threatened lives south of it.
So, I don't discount what that man just said at all, but obviously something that serious requires verification.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yo.
Yo.
It's the Quickening Dude.
Yeah, Quickening Dude, right here.
It's Dr. Strange Groove from the W.A.B.C.
listening area.
77 W.A.B.C.
Yo.
Yes.
You gave the sign, I think, for the end of time tonight.
Can you name what it is?
No.
It's the comet you just mentioned.
I've been sitting here waiting for this comet for years straight.
Well, how do you know this is the one, though?
Because I know the same things Malachy Martin and Ted Flynn know.
Well, Malachy did call for a sign in the skies, and by God, here comes one around the sun.
I'll give it to you in a nutshell.
The weather, everything you see, everything you say, quickening, this, that.
Yep.
It's all leading to the Malachy Martin-Ted Flynn scenario.
Now, it starts with the warning.
That is the first event.
That is the beginning of the end of time.
The warning.
The beginning of the end of time?
That's right.
Yikes.
Ain't no joke.
I'm not laughing.
I'm not on the air now.
I just kept calling you to ask about this comment.
Now, you quoted the exact words of the prophecy.
It will be seen going past the sun.
That's what you announced tonight when I heard that.
Well, that's right.
That's exactly, as a matter of fact, the way it's being said.
All of Catholic prophecy is one thing and one thing alone.
These apparitions of the Virgin Mary.
Okay?
First comes the warning.
The comet will start coming, you said, by the end of the month.
Now, the warning comes.
So you think this is near the end now?
This is it!
Art, I've been living this for ten years, you get it?
I've been living this for 10 years.
I'm a long-haired hippie rock musician.
But I mean, how can you absolutely know this is it?
Because I got a hundred prophecies stacked to my ceiling in my room telling me the warning.
You get it?
You do?
Yes!
That must be kind of messy.
I tell you some stuff.
Strange grooves.
Uh...
Here it is.
The warning.
The comet will come past the sun.
Part will break off.
Part will go in towards the sun.
Another part will hit the moon.
And another part will scrape our atmosphere.
Causing the illumination.
The warning.
Every man on earth sees God.
So in other words, Gabe is about to blow his horn.
That's it!
You're quoting it all day!
I looked up tonight, Art, and I saw the moon covered in haze.
I live in New Jersey, you understand?
I came in the house and I said, check this moon out!
This ain't normal!
Okay, you've heard of Fatima.
What happened before Fatima?
It rained, and it rained, and it rained.
Thirteen days of rain!
Listen to me now for a second.
My program's over.
Tell everybody goodnight.
Goodnight, everybody.
And add this.
Say goodbye.
Goodbye.
Yeah, goodbye.
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