Art Bell revisits the May 12, 1998, India nuclear tests scandal, where U.S. intelligence failed to predict detonations despite satellite warnings, calling it "the intelligence failure of the decade." A caller confirms photos of underground nuclear blasts—possibly in Iraq—while others debate UFOs near Bangor Submarine Base and a mysterious daylight comet. Dr. Roger Lear’s guest, General A, hints at undisclosed national security revelations tied to global instability, including extreme heat, haze, and paranormal tapes. Bell warns of an unspecified "warning" arriving, urging listeners to reflect on impending shifts in humanity’s future. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be, in your time zone, wherever that is, from the Hawaiian and Eastern Islands, James outwest, eastward of the Caribbean, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north, all the way to the Pole.
And robot on the internet, this is supposed to go.
Right now what I would like to do is read the first item of news and then announce something that's going to be coming up at the bottom of the hour.
Lawmakers chastise U.S. intelligence agencies Tuesday for what one committee chairman called, quote, a colossal failure, end quote, in not warning about India's nuclear tests.
A U.S. spy satellite picked up activity at India's test site last week, according to the Washington Post.
Now, that's interesting.
Clear-cut evidence by satellite of preparations were recorded at midnight on Sunday, six hours before the blasts.
The U.S. analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep, one senior official said, speaking anonymously.
They were all asleep.
This reminds me of the probable kind of announcement they made after Pearl Harbor, huh?
Well, at the time of the attack, you know, it was Sunday and people were in church and people were out of pocket and we couldn't get a hold of anybody and blah, blah, blah.
It's kind of like that, huh?
Anyway, India let loose with a couple of very serious, actually three, I guess, nuclear detonations.
And the shockwave of these detonations goes far beyond that measured on anybody's Richter scale meter.
The first and most obvious problem is Pakistan, which itself may have a nuclear device.
And we're waiting to see now how they will respond to that.
Pakistan may feel obliged to launch a rocket to demonstrate the capability of delivery, or they may even detonate their own nuclear device.
China certainly may feel forced to respond by testing a nuclear device.
It's sort of a national level, hey, if you got one, we got one kind of deal.
And if you don't do it, then you might be inviting disaster.
And this whole thing may be inviting disaster.
And oh, we all went to sleep and thought the nuclear problems were over, right?
The Cold War was over and the wall came tumbling down and all of that.
Surprise, surprise, here we are again.
If a nuclear exchange began, a regional nuclear exchange, don't be so sure that it could be stopped at that.
There might be involvement of China suddenly.
The Russians, seeing the involvement of China, of course, would get very nervous.
And I don't have to draw you a big long picture of this one, do I?
So this is very serious news.
And again, let me read you this line.
It, of course, is the lead story everywhere now.
The U.S. analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep, one senior official speaking anonymously told the newspaper.
And so how well will you sleep tonight?
Now, it was at least two or three months ago that I received from a source that I am not going to divulge because he'd lose his job two photographs that I consider to be really, really worrisome.
And that isn't to say that I may know what I'm talking about.
And without comment, I think toward the bottom of the hour, not yet, not yet, toward the bottom of the hour, we're going to post these photographs on the internet.
And I'm going to ask you what they are.
I know I have a lot of experts out there in high-altitude and satellite imagery.
And I'm going to ask those experts to take a look at these photographs and tell me what it is we're seeing.
Maybe nothing to worry about, or it may be.
And I told my source if I had Not heard from him in an appropriate amount of time, I would post the photographs because I considered it potentially way too important potentially not to post.
So it may be nothing or it may be something.
You tell me.
Let's see what else is going on.
Oh, the U.S. and Russia have reached a tentative agreement on Security Council statement outlining conditions for scaling back nuclear inspections in Iraq.
The International Atomic Energy Agency concludes Iraq has answered all outstanding questions regarding its nuclear program.
And so the Council could endorse a shift from wide-ranging inspections to ongoing monitoring and surveillance of Iraqi nuclear facilities.
Well, my God, we gave them enough time to get those things hidden if they have them.
We really got snookered by Iraq.
The UN did.
And it's a joke.
And I don't mean to say that the UN inspectors are a joke.
They're not.
But the politics of how it all came down, that's all a joke.
And Iraq could have anything, anywhere.
Who's kidding who?
This now from the UN.
You know, on a day when we found out that while India tested three nuclear devices, our officials responsible for watching all this were sound asleep.
Oh, deep impact.
Police discovered more than 30 human skulls.
This is now with Reuters now.
Reuters, all right?
30 human skulls in a cave in a Mexico City Park Tuesday after a shootout with a man who said there were more bodies buried nearby.
One of the caves was lined with human and animal bones and more than 30 human skulls, all of them at least 10 years old.
An arrested man told investigators he and his friends used the caves to rape women and that four women's bodies were buried in a nearby cave.
I'll leave that one without comment.
Now, again, I want to be very careful about what I say here.
And I would be glad to have some information on what I'm going to say.
But I believe that scientists, astronomers, have detected a new comet emerging from behind the sun.
Now, I don't know a lot about it just yet, but I would like to know more.
I understand that in southern latitudes, the rumor is this comet may be bright enough to view during the daytime.
I saw a remark attributed to Alan Hale regarding this, and if I'd had the time, I would have surely called Alan and tried to get him on the air tonight to tell us what's going on out there.
But there is a new, apparently comet.
I understand that there are people within the armed forces now that are reporting, the Army Times is apparently reporting that, in fact, the Gulf War syndrome, whatever the hell it is, is real.
And the Army Times says there is no cure for Gulf War illness.
In what appears to be a complete reversal of military policy, the Army Times reported in its May 4th edition that the Gulf War illness not only exists, but that it is possibly communicable and that there is, quote, no cure for the illness at this time, end quote.
Since the first reports of illness suffered by Gulf War veterans, the Pentagon and the Department of Defense, of course, have continued to deny even the existence of it and attributed these maladies to post-traumatic stress disorder.
Now, as you well know, this is what Joyce Riley was saying well over a year ago on this program, maybe a year and a half ago.
She said, you better face up to it, folks.
It's communicable.
Looks like she's right.
And no fix for it as of yet.
Hey, Art, in case you haven't seen this one, the following from the Denver Post Sunday, May 10th, boy 5, 5 years of age, arrested over gun threats.
Memphis, Tennessee.
A five-year-old kindergarten pupil was arrested after bringing a loaded pistol to school because he wanted to kill his teacher for punishing him with timeout.
Timeout is a form of discipline for young children.
They put them in a corner, or they've got these little time-out closets, and they might put them in there.
And so this little five-year-old was going to take the .25-caliber automatic and put a bullet through his teacher's head.
In a moment, I've got something that has been submitted to us that I want you to hear.
Remember that we had the words to a song.
We had no song.
We had no melody, it was suggested.
two digits for a date.
Well, I've got my first good submission, and I'll play it for you here in a minute.
It's all about the Y2K problem.
Y2K All right, Sean Mullen, I believe, of Venice, California, submitted the following.
We just gave him the words.
They're up on the website right now.
Somebody wrote sort of a little poem or a little whatever it is you write when you write something to be sung.
It's called Two Digits for a Date.
And it's done to the tune of Gilligan's Island.
That is what was suggested up on the website.
And sure enough, this talented Sean Mullen from Venice, California, came up with the following.
It's all about the Y2K problem.
Listen closely.
This is Sean Mullen.
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Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale of the dune that is our fate.
That started when programmers used two digits for a date.
Two digits for a date.
May memory was smaller than our discs were smaller too.
Four digits are extravagant.
So let's get by with you.
Yes, let's get by with who this works from 1999.
The programmers did say, Unless we rewrite before that, will all go away.
All will go away.
I'll run in the face of good management and not to fool.
It works fine now, you bet.
A rewrite is a straight expense.
We won't do that just yet.
We won't do that just yet.
Now, when 2,000 rolls around, it all goes straight to Oh well.
For zero's less than 99, as anyone can tell.
Yes, anyone can tell.
The mail won't bring your ketchup check.
It won't be sent to you.
When you're no longer 68, but minus 32, you'll be minus 32.
The problems we're about to face are frightening for sure.
And reading every line of code is the only certain cure.
It's the only certain cure.
I'll know, I'll know, I'll know, I'll know.
There's not much time, there's too much code, and cold all corners few.
But the century is finished with we may be finished too.
Anyway, again, I'm no expert, and so I'm not sure what I'm seeing.
I want people who are used to seeing aerial or satellite photography to go to my website.
I told this source that I would wait a reasonable amount of time and gave him a couple of different opportunities to respond and tell me not to do it.
I have destroyed the original information that came with these photographs to protect my source.
And there's nothing else I can do.
So I have now posted these photographs.
If you go to my website, it's under the category, it'll say right under the latest news and updates, what is this?
And you can click on that, or that, and you can click on that.
Satellite image question mark.
And I've thought very hard about this.
It's just not something that I can sit on forever and I'm not gonna.
And it may well be that I'm worried over nothing, but I don't think so.
I think I'm worried over something.
So those of you who are used to looking at these kind of images, would you please go take a look at that and tell me what it is that I'm seeing?
Fact me, call me, mail me, tell me, get to me one way or the other.
Maybe as the program goes on this morning, we're going to mainly be in open lines.
Maybe I'll just open a line for anybody out there who knows what this is.
All right.
And then there's one other thing up on the current website that you need to see.
It relates to something coming up next hour with Peter Davenport from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington.
Remember, he told the story of the banger UFO that apparently hovered over some of our assets?
Well, there are some interesting developments.
Also, there is an artist rendering on my website right now of what this thing looks like to a witness.
And we just got that up as usual along with these other two images like about 30, I don't know, about 30 minutes before airtime.
And so here it is.
Oh, how interesting.
I'm looking at it myself.
This is what an artist rendering of the object looks like.
And of course, we have, in fact, maybe we'll repeat them, quite a number of eyewitness reports seeing this same object.
So this will give those of you who saw it an opportunity to go up there and say, hey, that's what I saw, or not.
Anyway, the military would seem to be changing its story, and we'll have Peter Davenport, but you can go see the image right now.
And I hope that Peter will have an opportunity to go up, are you listening, Peter, and see the images that I have put up there after much anguish over it.
A lot of anguish over it.
So that's what's going on, and it's going to be a heavy night on the website.
The address, if you don't know it, is www.artbell.com.
www.artbell.com.
I'm probably going to get a visit over this.
And if that's the case, then so be it.
But I don't know, in my spot, I mean, what the hell else do you do with something like this, huh?
A 57-year-old woman, walking her dog, was knocked to the ground and attacked by two Canadian geese.
Really?
Carol Lee Ol's face was swollen and bruised as a result of her encounter with the wild birds.
She had, get this, sounds like something out of a Hitchcock movie, two black eyes, a three-inch scratch down her cheek, and suffered a concussion, perhaps from the fall.
She was on a walkway with her dog Friday when she saw the birds with goslings on a lawn about 10 feet away.
Moments later, the birds suddenly turned on her and ran toward her, honking.
One flew straight at her, knocked her to the ground, and the other geese began to peck at her head and body as she yelled and waved her arms.
Moments later, they were gone.
This comes under my animals are turning against humans category.
Yeah, but his theory, which he developed by talking about ball lightning and all the rest of it, eventually led up to his theory about a polar shift which would be induced by a giant ejecta, mass ejecta from the sun.
And sure enough, here about, what, a month later, we're having regular giant ejecta from the sun.
I don't feel very warm and fuzzy about it, but I thought, I had an experience when I was nine years old, and I thought that, I mean, I always thought it was like something extraterrestrial, but now I think it was maybe ball lightning.
Well, there I asked Ed about it, and there are, let's see, stories going around that a number of Cheyenne Mountain employees, without notice and all together, left their employment at Cheyenne Mountain, took their families, and moved to South America.
But, you know, it's just one of those things you go, oh, really?
Uh-oh.
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Also, the way you're setting up the table for the pictures, I haven't had a chance to look at them, and I'm no expert.
I'm just a college student.
But I think, so I don't know, the way you're setting it up seems like they're either in South Korea, or I mean North Korea or Iraq from the way you're setting it up.
Well, I can't give you troop strength or any information on what personnel or assets are kept there.
Right.
Of course, there are towers that spotlight different areas along the perimeter.
Try to keep unauthorized personnel out.
What would happen, as we were not able to maintain constant control of the airspace over the facility due to the Bremerton Municipal Airport being south of the facility, south of the base there.
However, first thing that would happen, you'd have a security alert.
Reaction Force personnel would respond to the area and they would basically stand by.
I mean, we were really kind of at the mercy of a flying anything.
Department of Defense personnel would have to give us authorization to fire.
A UFO, whether it was an experimental aircraft or if it was indeed some kind of alien entity, would not necessarily be a threat, while it would be suspicious that it would be hovering over our main limited area.
It doesn't necessarily justify the use of deadly force.
So there'd be a certain amount of thumb twiddling and fingernail chewing, but, of course, the weapons would be there as far as our Peter Davenport spoke with a civilian official who originally confirmed the incident for him.
Well, SWIFTPAC, which he mentioned in his program, Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific, is a very large organization that handles strategic assets along the West Coast.
And I'm sure that they have a lot of cloud.
And if one of their personnel wanted to discuss this, they may have been counseled to do otherwise in the interest of national security.
I'm no longer stationed at the facility myself.
I couldn't say, you know, I wasn't present when this incident actually occurred.
But having been stationed there, I know what goes on, what the procedures are as far as the main limited area guard and the Marine Corps detachment there.
Now that's a pretty good setup for what's coming next with Peter Davenport.
I want to give everybody enough of an opportunity to go up to the website for two, actually three very important reasons tonight.
One, I have posted these photographs that I have been dilly-dallying about posting for reasons that you may understand when you see them, or maybe not.
I don't know.
I want to know what this is a photograph of.
Period.
All right?
So if you can, go take a look.
And number two, there is a very simple artist rendering of the object that was seen over Bangor in Washington on the website as well.
And maybe from it somebody will recognize something.
But it's just a very simple rendering.
Please take a look and tell us what you think, whether you've seen anything like it, whether you were one of the witnesses.
And we're going to roll over this whole thing that occurred in Washington with Peter Davenport right after the top of the hour news.
All this on the shocking news today of the three nuclear detonations in India.
And believe me, the implications of that are very, very serious.
And they're talking about other nations' reactions, including China.
I'm Art Bell.
And this is Coast to Coast AM.
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All right, we are going to do a number of things this hour.
The first is, about two months ago, I received two images from outside the country.
And I did receive a message with them.
I have destroyed that message on purpose because I want to protect the anonymity of the person who sent them, who would lose his job without question.
I've been wondering what to do with these images for the last couple of months.
I finally decided I've waited long enough.
They're on the website right now.
And all I would like you to do is take a look at the images and tell me what you think they are.
You tell me what you're seeing.
It's like a big Roche test.
Anybody familiar with aerial photography or satellite imagery, I would like you to take a look at this and tell me what you're seeing.
And the responses so far, I'm not going to begin to divulge the responses for perhaps about an hour, are very, very interesting.
The big news of the day, of course, is of the nuclear tests done in India.
And the Reuters story on these tests suggests that, quoting from Reuters, the U.S. analysts responsible for tracking India's nuclear program were all home asleep.
One official said, speaking anonymously.
So our guys were all asleep when this occurred, and apparently we had some hours notice that it was going to happen, about six hours.
They got the image, but everybody responsible, I guess, for identifying it and saying what it was and what was about to happen was at home, in bed, asleep.
So anyway, I guess that jogged me a little bit, and I knew it was about time to post these photographs, and I would appreciate your input.
You'll see them on my website now, and if I get in trouble about it, who cares, I guess?
At some point or another, you've got to say either I'm going to do this or I'm not.
And I opt in favor of doing it.
It may be nothing.
It may be something indeed.
I'll let you tell me.
Now, so I have posted these very controversial photographs that I've been holding.
Number two, there has been a second chapter in this UFO story in the state of Washington, some very, very interesting developments.
And we'll have Peter Davenport on in a moment.
Refresh your memory, perhaps, with the audio from a couple of witnesses, and then tell you what has happened since.
All right.
Here once again from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle with an increasingly intriguing story is Peter Davenport.
I asked him if there were nuclear devices there, and he said I can neither confirm nor deny it, which is the usual answer given when, in fact, there are nuclear or strategic weapons at a site.
Why don't we give our listeners a minute or two to get up to the website?
I think it would be very interesting to them to look at the image that was sent to us by the witness over in Polesbo, Washington.
That's about 20 miles to the west of Seattle.
We'll give them a minute or two to get to that website and pull up the picture, and then we'll play the minute or minute and a half audio cut that we have of this gentleman reporting what he saw that had just gone over Bangor Submarine Base.
And if it doesn't raise goose flesh on the people who are looking at that image, we'll see.
He's looking apparently at the bottom side of a disc, which is tipped About 30 or 35 degrees, he estimated, away from him.
So he is getting now a very good look at the bottom of the craft.
And on the outside ring on the bottom of that craft, like a doughnut, a very bright section, and in the center, like a donut hole that occupies about a third of the diameter of the bottom of the disk, is totally black.
It was just black from his vantage point, as far as I know, like charcoal or dark gray.
And he got a very good look at that object, even though he saw it for only an estimated three to five seconds, probably closer to three.
It was a very, very clear night, he reports.
He was on the second floor of his building.
I've met this gentleman.
He attended our monthly UFO meeting up here in Seattle last Saturday.
And after I'd gone through describing his report, he very, very almost meekly raised his hand and he said, I am the gentleman who reported that to you.
So he surprised us by showing up at our meeting.
We were delighted to have him there.
Very urbane, very intelligent guy, very sincere.
And I am inclined to believe every word he's told us so far.
In fact, he was on TV News up here last night.
A local TV station did a very fine report on this particular case.
They first reported it as a probable meteorite the night of the event, but we woke them up and we shared with them some of the reports that have come to us.
I don't know if your webmaster has had time to put up the summary of the 11 major reports of this event that have come to us from all over the state of Washington.
But whereas last week, when I reported on your program that the object shot from north to south with a pause, a brief pause over Bangor submarine base, we now happen to know that that object hooked around to the east down near Portland, just north of Portland.
And we just on Sunday of this past week received a report from a member of a law enforcement community in Yakima, Washington.
That's southeast of Seattle, probably 150 miles or so, who saw an object streaking from south to north now out east of Yakima.
He saw it for about two seconds, and during his brief sighting, it changed from green to red.
This is a very, it is stacking up to be a very, very complex case.
From the very beginning, the personnel at Bangor Base, who have been very courteous, very professional, I have no complaints except for the fact that we can't get much information out of them, they have been very careful with me.
For example, eight days ago, Monday, when I called them and talked to the public affairs office, I requested permission to talk to the officer in charge of base security.
I thought that would be the appropriate person to talk to.
Well, I talked to the young gentleman who answered the phone, and I was directed then to the more, or the most senior civilian individual who works in that office.
They apparently have a military side and a civilian side, and I was directed to the civilian side.
That is the gentleman who apprised me after a long, long conversation, and my long-distance phone bill will show that conversation very clearly, or at least the time spent on the telephone to that number.
He did admit to me that two individuals from inside, I got the impression they work inside Bangor Base, had reported an incident, quote, quote, an incident.
He would go no further than that.
He's very professional, very reserved.
He knows what he's doing, and I got the distinct impression.
Okay, it was approximately 9.20 p.m. on Wednesday evening, and I live, oh, about a half mile from the Bangor submarine base.
I was looking out a second-floor bedroom window towards the base when I noticed a circular dis-shaped object approximately three-quarter mile from my house.
It was also about 300 feet above the ground, about 200 feet above the tree line.
The object appeared to be 50 to 60 feet long and was moving from a north to south direction towards the center of the Bangor submarine base.
It was circular, but it was tilted at about, it seemed to be tilted at about a 35 degree angle with the bottom towards me.
And because of that tilt, there was a slight oval shape to it.
It's a computer-generated image and sent it to us and gave us permission to share it with you.
We are terribly grateful to him.
Again, I met him.
I had a long conversation with him on Saturday.
Very bright guy.
He's lived in his area virtually all of his adult life.
He knows the lay of the land quite well.
Very good observer, very precise reporter of what he saw, and apparently a very good memory of what he saw.
Now, his report fits in perfectly with about 10 other reports, major reports we've received.
In what we've posted to the website, if it's up there yet, it'll certainly be on our website tomorrow.
We'll share it with you, Art.
In addition to the 11 major reports that we've received so far, there have been other minor reports that tend to corroborate this incident.
Again, in the first report we heard, the young lad reporting at 20 miles north of Seattle, he reports that it was blue.
It is also blue over the submarine base a matter of a few seconds later, we estimate.
Later on, it turned green, it maneuvered, it went down, it went up, it streaked, it slowed, and it turned about 120 degrees to the left and shot up to Yakima.
Well, in all fairness to him, I've not gone back to him.
The report that Bangor and his office now apparently denies that they ever made that representation to me about two reports inside Bangor, I cannot personally confirm.
It's been reported to me by Como News up here, the TV station.
You know, I really do wonder sometimes how long they are going to leave me on the air.
we just keep pushing the envelope a little farther and a little farther and interesting to see when the envelope tears All right, here we go.
Here comes Peter Davenport once again from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
And as we began to discuss at the bottom of the hour, he had an initial report from this apparent civil service employee, a public relations type, who admitted, yes, there had been an incident at Bangor.
But then when Como TV called him to check on the report, he apparently denied it to them.
It's rumor at this stage, but it's a reliable rumor as far as I know.
And also, as if things don't happen fast enough in this business art, I just took a call from the gentleman over in Poolsville, Washington, whose voice our listeners just heard in the last audio cut.
Well, in more ways than one, this is a very strange day because, as you know, India lit off three and caught our security people, intelligence people, napping.
They were all home in bed asleep, even with the hours of notice that we had.
There's just some pretty strange times, Peter.
Pretty strange times.
And I would think, the reason I mention that is I would think that these, whatever they are, these objects that we see, have a disproportionate interest in our nuclear facilities.
There is a story circulating about Chernobyl in 1986 when it blew up, April 86, I think it was, when it blew its top.
There are reports of UFOs that were sighted, or at least one UFO, a disk-shaped UFO in proximity to that nuclear power plant up north of Kiev when it blew up, but I cannot confirm that.
As far as I'm concerned, it's only rumor at this stage.
But it comes out of the Soviet Union, and it appears to come from a good source.
Well, that sort of caused me to prick up my ears because just about two months ago, I was talking to a gentleman here in Seattle who owns a Russian-made hydrofoil boat, about 20 feet long, about six or eight feet wide.
The Soviets brought a whole bunch of them to Vancouver, B.C. for the 1986 Expo.
When they closed down the Expo, the Soviets just sold about 20 of them here in the Northwest.
They're used up in San Juan County among the islands for high-speed commuters and so on and so forth.
This gentleman was telling me how just a couple years ago, he was flying by the Bangor submarine facility in his Russian hydrofoil at about 60 or 70 knots.
And he and his friend decided they ought to pull a little bit closer to the submarine base just to take a look.
They angled in towards the base, again, about 70 miles an hour or so.
And he said he was surprised by the activity, the animation on the long piers they have where the submarines are pulled up.
And within a matter of seconds, one of the individuals appeared to pull out from a bunker what appeared to him to be a black stovepipe and cradle it on his shoulder.
And he described to me in great animation the Hobson's choice that he felt he was faced with.
Does he bail out of his cherished high-speed Russian hydrofoil at 70 miles an hour with the hydrofoils just inches below him that looks something like Paul Bunyan's straight razor?
Or does he take his chances with that stovepipe?
And they quickly turned away from the Vanguard submarine base.
That story, however, came to mind when that young Marine was talking.
I cannot believe that that facility is not protected against every threat that they can possibly imagine.
sure it is but what what he was finding out was that there is so much commercial air traffic in essence he was there He was saying that they just put up with people flying over it or near it or within eyesight of it all the time.
And when I heard the, she, you know, excitedly brought it to me, and I played it, and I played it again, and I played it again, and then I got terrified.
And a lot of things happened in that house after that.
I got angry with the ghost and told it to leave us alone.
And the last thing I want to think about is something down in the water.
Oh, my God.
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Churning it, yeah.
And it was like he just played these little jokes, you know, these things like an exercise bike and just start spinning the wheels or would knock on the walls every once in a while.
And one day I was looking in a cupboard and it knocked out, you know, that shave and a haircut?
And anybody out there have any comments on that one?
There are two photographs that I fear.
Again, I don't want to say anything just yet, but there are two photographs that I would like you to look at on my website right now.
In fact, if anybody knows, if anybody is an expert on what these photographs depict, send me a fax with your name and number, and I'll call you, and we'll get you on the air.
Maybe we'll talk about it.
From the high and wet desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
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I mean, it's like the first item in the new section.
Well, maybe it's not the first item.
Maybe it's the second item.
Let me see if I can get in myself and look.
It's like you can't miss them.
It says in the new items, what is this and what is that?
And you're supposed to click on this or that.
Okay, it's the second item.
Dated 51298.
It says, what is this?
You can click on that.
Or that and you can click on that.
Satellite image.
Question mark.
And the only thing that I'm going to tell you about these photographs is I got them two months ago.
I am just a layman.
But I think that I know what I'm looking at.
And I don't want to say.
I want you to take a look.
Those of you who are familiar with aerial photography and satellite photography, you take a look and you tell me what it is.
And if we've got an expert out there who would like to come on the air and tell everybody what it is, then fine.
I have destroyed the email that came with this originally, with these images.
But I can tell you that, and I said then and I say now, that they possibly, or potentially, have national security implications.
And I've waited long enough.
The fellow said if I were to release the photographs, he'd get fired.
And so I'm going to hold back the information regarding where I got them.
And there's quite an interesting story there.
And I do this in the shadow today of the detonation of three nuclear devices.
As you well know, by India, it's the lead news right now.
And incredibly, incredibly, Reuters is reporting that we had, I guess, about six hours satellite image notification of scrambling on the ground indicating there was about to be a test or a detonation in India.
And Reuters reports that a source has told them that everybody responsible for watching or analyzing this kind of thing was asleep in bed.
Dolores in Portland, Oregon writes simply, Art, with respect to India's three nuclear detonations, I think there's going to be the biggest pissing contest ever.
I agree with Dolores.
Pakistan will either fire a rocket, a strategic rocket, or themselves detonate a nuclear explosion.
China may well feel pressed to detonate a nuclear explosion.
The whole thing may well fall apart as a result of this.
Now, the scrambling behind the scenes, of course, is to get everybody to quickly sign on to a test ban treaty once again.
This in view of strange objects above strategic locations, as reported last hour by Peter Davenport, looking very closely at what we're doing with nukes.
Now, if they, in quotes, are out there, it would follow that they would be very interested in this sort of thing.
Could this test of three devices in India escalate?
Oh, yes, very quickly.
In fact, even Japan might quickly feel pressured, as might Korea, to respond.
And we could begin seeing detonations of nuclear devices all over the planet.
So what we have to hope now is that those diplomats who are scrambling to get everybody to sign on to something to stop this right now, and I mean right now, it should have been stopped before it occurred, but the CIA screwed up.
Obviously, they screwed up.
Now, whether the diplomats can put the band-aid on the nuclear detonation or not, I don't know.
We'll see.
And then just prior to the beginning of this hour, this lady called named Sandy with a tape of a ghost.
Damnedest thing you ever heard.
And you may want to comment on that.
Unbelievable.
A very interesting night all the way around.
In addition, this object that was seen in Washington over the submarine base has been drawn by one of the witnesses, and that is also on my website right now.
Artist rendering of Bangor UFO.
So you might want to take a look at that one as well.
So there's hot stuff going on on the website.
Let me know, and we may get some more reports during the night tonight.
You've really got to wonder how long they're going to allow me to do this because I wonder.
We just go treading through all kinds of strange territory.
I don't have the slightest idea whether he could provide precise pointing data for the Hubble, nor do I know if it's close enough to even yet be seen by Hubble.
So I don't know any of that.
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Well, the reason I was asking is because when you get pictures back now from the Hubble telescope, you get galaxies and starbursts and black holes and so forth that seem to be several thousands of light years away from the Earth.
But the 12th planet, according to him, is although it has an orbit of about a trillion miles or something like that, anyway it takes about 3,600 years to get around the sun once, then it looks to me like that would be close enough to where we could probably see it if it was coming back on its return trip toward the sun now, which I believe it is, in my estimation, in my calculations.
Well, I was basing it on the fact that if it coincides with the Jewish calendar, and we've got 360 days a year, each day being equal to a year of the 12th planet,
then perhaps it would be on its return toward the earth now if Christ, when he ascended into the heavens after he was resurrected and the clouds received him out of their sight,
whether he went back to the planet heaven via a flying saucer or whether he just went back on his own power, assuming that the twelfth planet may be the planet heaven and that this planet could be in our vicinity and it also has inhabitants on it.
That's an awful, awful bunch of presumptions there, though.
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It really is.
but the thing is that this is how we discover a lot of things, you know, is by asking questions.
And so I'm asking this kind of a question, that if the 12th planet and the planet heaven are the same thing, then Christ is due to return, as a lot of people predict around the year 2000 or 2000, I don't think that heaven is a planet.
Well, I appreciate your report, Doctor, and I certainly appreciate your giving it to Peter Davenport.
There is.
There has been found a new comet, ladies and gentlemen.
There is an image of the comet, and I'll try and get a link to it.
I'll get Keith to link to it.
I'm just getting the information now.
I mentioned this at 10 o'clock that I had heard that I had heard some rumors about a new comet.
And apparently Alan Hale has made some comments on this new comet.
Very, very interesting.
Let's see.
May 5th, 1998, announces the discovery of C1998 J1 SOHO by S Stesberger, I believe it is, of a bright comet in the northwestern corner of the field of view of the C3 coronagraph.
Now this is something apparently found by the Soho satellite.
That's the satellite that looks at what's going on in the Sun.
And they found this eight degrees from the Sun.
The computed parabolic orbit by Marsden, that would be Brian Marsden, indicates that, let's see, May 8th and 9th should be the May 8th and 9th.
May the 9th have already come and gone.
However, the comet is expected to move toward the southeast, may become visible as an evening object in the last half of May.
With the southern hemisphere favored, something to ponder.
Will this comet, or could this comet, be observable in the daytime?
So they're asking for comments on this.
Very, very interesting.
So in the southern hemisphere, toward the end of the month, if I'm interpreting this correctly, we may have a comet that may be observable during the day.
Wouldn't that be something?
Another comet coming around the bend, coming around the sun.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
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You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from May 12, 1998.
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius, age of Aquarius.
Aquarius, Aquarius.
The Lord's Prayer.
The Lord's Prayer.
Finally facing my wall Free Media Radio Network presents Art Bell somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired May 12th, 1998.
Well, they don't have to be from under the ground, but I know that this particular phenomenon of UFOs, people complain a lot about them having a smell of sulfur.
No, what happened, I talked to a guy in New York who's into the research part of this, and he said to me that a ghost voice on a tape, if it's measured by an oscilloscope, has a different reading than a human voice.
So I tried to get back to her, and she never wanted to speak to me after that.
Several times up here, we have seen lights, big white lights, traveling up and down the sound out here in the vicinity of Bangor about, oh, every other week, approximately between 9 and midnight.
Well, I guess it was 76, some young, well, Birds bagging little bundles of babies?
That's horrible.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now listen.
This kid apparently was 10 years old at the time, and he let out a scream, and his father thought a wolf had grabbed him.
and he went running and this kid was being apparently being trying to be lifted off the ground by this thing a ten year old a ten year old kid He was a small child.
Well, when I was little, I used to play around with tape recorders before, and one of mine broke, and like I it would it would play and record really fast.
And I was wondering if there's any way that I could get on a cassette tape or whatever the song about the little green aliens that you play every once in a while.
I was in Germany with the U.S. Armed Forces in a place called the Black Forest on tanks.
Right.
And it was so dark, and this was about 12, 31 o'clock in the morning that you couldn't see in front of your face, your hand.
I looked up to the sky, and I see what was not a satellite, not a plane, not a helicopter, but a star that just came straight down, stopped, and went the opposite direction, and disappeared.
I'm sure they were, and I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you very much for the assessment.
All right, let me read you a couple of facts as I've got, right?
These were photographs that were sent to me two months ago, and I think I told you about them when I got them.
And I told you at the time that I thought that the photographs had some sort of, possibly had a national security concern about them.
I don't, and I am not going to tell you who sent them to me because he was sure he would lose his job for doing so.
And so I'm simply not going, you know, based on my promise, I've promised, I'm not going to say anything about it.
At least you're on the air.
But I held them fully for at least, what would you guys say, two months?
And people have been bugging me.
Put them up, put them up.
So finally I did.
I'm sure a few days ago I said I was on the verge of doing it.
And of course, tonight we got the news about the nuclear testing in India.
So I think that probably affected my thinking on it.
And I called Keith just before airtime, like about five minutes, and said, put them up.
I said, please don't suggest what the photographs are.
Please just put them up and let people take a look.
It's either, obviously, either aerial or satellite imagery.
Let me read a couple of faxes, all right?
Art, I am a nuclear scientist at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in south central Washington state.
I've been in this field of science for the past 16 years.
I have, in capitals, no doubt whatsoever after viewing these images that you have photos of a nuclear explosion.
In my opinion, it looks like an underground test detonation.
I have in my possession satellite photos of what occurred at Chernobyl, and they look very similar.
Or this.
Please withhold my name.
Art, as an individual with a modicum of knowledge in physics, optics, and satellites, I would conclude as follows.
1.
Image 1 and 2 appear to indicate a near-ground nuclear burst.
2.
Both images show signs of the refractive image of the shock wave of the detonation.
3.
The resolution is poor.
4.
Image 2 has evidence of film damage and or overexposure due to energy flux in initial milliseconds of burst.
This would not be evident in a typical chemical explosion.
And so forth.
Another one.
The two satellite photos appear to be a small, low-yield nuclear explosion set off perhaps above-ground desert terrain.
Street layout is not modern, probably over an old area of a Middle Eastern city.
Leads to speculation it is over Iraq.
Speculation only.
Designed to produce an electromagnetic pulse EMP to disrupt regional communications and electronics.
A Gulf War incident, question mark.
I don't have the answer to all of this, but there is some.
Here's another one.
I'll read you another one.
I've just been grabbing them as they've been coming in.
Mr. Bell, I'm not involved in satellite photography per se, but my background is in photography, and I've spent some time looking at aerial photographs.
For what it's worth, here is my opinion on this and that.
That does indeed look like a nuclear test of some kind, kind of like the old film of the Pacific H-bomb tests.
This, on the other hand, looks not to be underground, but rather above ground.
Consider the large white circular part of the photo to be not a circle, but rather a sphere, with the sun positioned in that sky toward what would be the top of the photograph.
If you cast a light on a suspended sphere from such an angle, it would cast a shadow over the same shape as the dark gray area of the photograph.
Possible?
Question mark.
So there you have it, and many more just like that.
They've got all these vehicles positioned around the country, and at the exact moment of takeover, they're going to slam up the UN symbol, and that'll be it for us.
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It could be.
I've got an uncle that lives in New Orleans, and they've got a depot of them down there.
Well, I guess we can be, but when it comes to things nuclear, if they experiment with it, which they have already, past tense, and then Pakistan blows one off, and then China blows one off, and then North Korea blows one off, just sort of humor me here and tell me where you think that's going to lead.
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Well, don't know, but it could be just experimental.
I thought those lyrics would work particularly well this morning.
Give you some idea of how seriously all of this is viewed.
Here's an article entitled U.S. Intelligence Under Fire in Wake of India's Nuclear Tests.
Washington.
The U.S.'s inability to foresee or forestall India's nuclear test, despite ample warnings, was a failure of both the CIA and U.S. foreign policymakers.
After the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee called it, quote, the intelligence failure of the decade, end quote, CIA Director George Tennett asked retired Admiral David Jeremiah, a former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to lead a 10-day investigation into the intelligence community's failure to detect preparations at the site in the Indian desert.
The site has been under periodic surveillance by photo reconnaissance and electronic eavesdropping satellites, which recorded increasing activity.
But the images and activities they recorded in recent days were not interpreted clearly or quickly by the CIA.
That oversight constituted, quote, a colossal failure on the part of our intelligence agencies, end quote.
That's Chairman Richard Selby, Republican from Alabama.
He said something went wrong.
Somebody failed to do their job.
To let this slip up on our policymakers, the president, the Secretary of State, without a chance to intervene in some way diplomatically with India, was a huge intelligence failure.
If we had an inkling that they were going to detonate one or more nuclear weapons, perhaps we could have intervened.
We certainly would have tried.
They didn't just fool the CIA, they fooled the entire U.S. government.
And I'm first to admit they fooled me too, said a senior administration official.
We were all just lulled into thinking they wouldn't do anything regarding nuclear weapons.
They let us believe they were not going to do anything precipitous.
We made the mistake of assuming they would act rationally.
Others said warning signs were everywhere to be read by diplomats as well as spies.
The announced intentions of the new Hindu nationalist government to make nuclear weapons part of its arsenal.
The published pronouncements of India's Atomic Weapons Commissioner, who said two months ago that he was ready to test if political leaders gave the go-ahead, and then, of course, recent missile tests by Pakistan, all but dared New Delhi to respond.
Obviously, they have.
So that gives you some idea of how seriously, very seriously, this is being viewed right now.
and I thought I would read that to you.
All right, I want to warn you of something coming up next week.
It's like one thing after another.
Dr. Roger Lear, who's kind of a partner of Daryl Sims, called me.
And he said, Art, I have a general class officer who is ready to reveal some very, very startling information.
And I actually have that information here.
I don't want to yet want to read that because I don't want to in any way allow anybody to get to this general class officer before he does the show.
It's coming up Tuesday.
I'll read you what Dr. Lear said to me.
Our two guests, myself, Dr. Roger Lear, and General A. You may refer to him in that manner.
The general has consented to come on the air for two reasons.
The first is a personal favor to me, to Dr. Lear, in other words.
And the other has to do with the credibility of your radio program.
He is very familiar with it.
I've known this gentleman for over 30 years.
Remember, this is Dr. Lear speaking.
And his character is impeccable.
He is an officer in the Air Force Reserve and just recently attained the rank of general.
He has a long history of government involvement, and this extended directly to the White House.
He had personal close involvement with President Johnson and other presidents that followed.
He currently is communicative with the administration now in the White House.
The only way he would agree to make public statements is to have his voice disguised.
Even with this, as a small cover of safety, he still has fears of possible retribution.
When questioned, he will give straightforward answers to the extent of what he feels he can relay publicly.
I have photos of nuclear blasts, and I've only seen three types of photos that have such a bright white, or bright light, if you will, center, such as that.
And all of them have been nuclear.
And if you were, let's call the top of the picture north.
If you were to go north to where you were just over the center of the blast, it would be a perfect circle, pretty much as it is there.
And then the shadow line around would also be a perfect circle, which would indicate a mushroom cloud, if you will, or a mushroom blast.
I received these photographs two months ago from a source outside the U.S., way outside.
and um...
it was claimed that this detonation was in a place you know i i i i'm not an expert in this sort of thing and i didn't know what you And the source indicated that, in fact, that's what it was, and it was in a place where, if it's true, we should all be really worried.
And that's, I guess all I can say, and should say, and will say, I don't want this person to lose their job, but on the other hand, if it is what you're saying it is, then it's got national security implications.
And what the hell am I supposed to do with it?
Just sit on the photographs and not put them up there?
So I decided to put them up there and just ask the simple question, what is this?
What is that?
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Right.
Well, like I said, I have no doubt whatsoever.
The area, I'm not positive, but I, well, there again, it's kind of far-fetched.
But I've got a lot of photos.
And I think I'm going to print this out and do some comparison.
And this cow, all by herself, used to just come up and pick him up at the gate, and he used to put his arms around her, and she'd lead him to the barn.
And she'd sort of hang around where he was at.
She'd help go get the other cows up and everything else.
Nobody taught this cow how to do that.
It just did it by itself.
I love hamburgers.
I thought you might like.
I tried Colin when she was on, but I couldn't get through.
What they said was Mexico and Guatemala are on fire and that the health warnings are from Texas to Florida because of the smoke coming across the Gulf.
I've been getting intermittent reports all day long, which I've been waiting to verify that people in Texas, where you are, are having trouble with haze because of all the fires.
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Tonight it was clear, and I was looking at the full moon while you were talking about the rain.
And right now, it's covered with smoke, and it's not clouds.
You can see through the clouds.
They're big billows coming over, and you can see the moon through them, and it's a brown haze.
So, you know, I was shook up when I started to hear this.
At first, I thought, well, there's another fire.
And then I thought, somebody has to tell Arbell about this.
And I cannot verify all of what he said, but I can verify parts of what he said.
Indeed, there has been unattributable haze in Texas from something.
I've been getting a lot of reports.
I did note the reports of 118-degree temperatures in Mexico, the closing of schools and industry because of pollution that threatened lives south of it.
So I don't discount what that man just said at all, but obviously something that serious requires verification.