James McDougal, a Whitewater scandal witness tied to Bill and Hillary Clinton, died in solitary confinement on March 8, 1992—six years after the scandal erupted—amid unanswered questions about prison checks and missing autopsy/toxicology reports, while key evidence vanished. Meanwhile, Steve Gibbs, Nebraska’s self-proclaimed "time machine inventor," claims over 300 hand-built devices since 1986, sold via Idaho-distributed ads in Nexus and Fate, manipulate Earth’s magnetic grid points for travel to past/future/parallel timelines, though skeptics question safety, feasibility, and his production capacity. Callers report eerie visions—like a 1999 volcanic eruption—while Gibbs warns of risks like fusing with alternate selves or accidental trips to "hell regions," suggesting time travel’s dangers may outweigh its fringe allure. [Automatically generated summary]
A local prison official says that Whitewater figure James McDougall was in solitary confinement when he died Sunday of an apparent heart attack.
McDougall, who had a history of medical problems, was placed in, quote, administrative detention, unquote, Saturday night because he had refused to give a urine sample as part of random drug testing.
But the prison spokesman says solitary confinement was safe for McDougal because inmates there are checked on every 30 minutes.
Here is investigative reporter Chris Ruddy, who works for...
Well, I don't know if McDougal was murdered or not.
I'm going to assume the story that we've been told by the government.
However, I believe there should be a full investigation, just as there would be in any case.
Art, if you took any case where there was a major criminal prosecution and one of the key witnesses suddenly dies of a heart attack, even though he might have had some illnesses, two weeks after a major witness turned that was corroborating, apparently, parts of his story, that's Governor Tucker, just turned apparently two weeks ago and agreed to cooperate with Starr.
And he dies on the anniversary, six years to the day, March 8th, 1992, when the scandal first breaks in the New York Times, when Jeff Gerth, a reporter for the Times, reports that the Whitewater scandal could hurt the Clintons and has all sorts of allegations from a person named James McDougal.
Well, look, again, I want to assume that this is a heart attack, but let's play the devil's advocate.
Oftentimes, when organized crime, for example, does hit, they typically do hits where there's little signals.
And when they do a hit where it doesn't look like a hit, they leave their fingerprints so that others in the circle know and have reason to believe that it's murder.
Right, but let's, you know, Foster is then and McDougal is now.
And I really want comments from you on McDougal.
Now, let's get in.
First of all, the audience should know what I know, and that is that now with McDougal having died, the implication for the investigation is that any evidence that McDougal gave can now not be used in court.
So even evidence as damning as a videotaped interview with McDougal could not be introduced into evidence by Ken Starr in some subsequent prosecution of whoever it might be?
So his being gone, not only is he dead, but any evidence that he gave is dead as a doornail too, unless they can verify it through the next source if he indeed pointed to one.
Well, my sources that are close to this investigation are saying this has dealt a very, very serious blow to the investigation.
And the reason it has is that the target of the investigation is Bill and Hillary Clinton.
And the star was moving, with McDougal's help, apparently, towards Hillary because she was the attorney for record for Madison Guarantee, which was McDougal's bank, which went down To the tune of $60 million.
Yeah, I mean, leave aside the issue, and there'll always be conspiracy theorists that'll question that death.
It's sort of fortunate for the people that are being investigated here that this has taken place, especially that there's talk that this is coming to a head now after all of this time.
He apparently had some heart problems over the years.
I was speaking to him about his medical condition, and he indicated to me that he had some medical conditions, but it didn't sound like he was ready to have a heart attack or anything like that.
He said that he was suffering from some psychological depression and things like that.
A federal prison official says Whitewater figure James McDougall was in solitary confinement when he died Sunday of an apparent heart attack.
McDougal, with a history of medical problems, doesn't say heart, was placed in administrative detention Saturday night because he had refused to give a urine sample as part of a random drug test.
But the prisons, now that's important, the prisons spokesman says solitary confinement was safe for McDougal because inmates there are checked on every 30 minutes.
Well, as far as I know, they're doing an autopsy, and it's going to take about, they've done the autopsy, and they're going to take about two weeks to get the toxicology test.
and they're reporting back he died of a heart attack.
But you don't know until there's a full...
Well, a couple of things here.
And again, I know you sort of see the Foster thing as separate.
In fact, Foster and McDougal are sort of ground zero for the Whitewater scandal.
Jeff Gerth and the New York Times first Reports Whitewater.
And then what really brings the scandal to a head is 1993, Foster's death.
Aides of the Clintons are running into Foster's office, allegedly removing Whitewater documents.
The U.S. government, you and me, pay $30 million, Art, and the rest of your listeners for this major investigation into Foster's death that lasts over three years.
They keep on saying suicide, suicide.
They never tell us really why he died of a suicide.
And what's astounding is I spoke to McDougal just before he left for prison.
To investigative reporter Chris Ruddy, who is on Every Friend of the White House list.
Chris, welcome back.
You know, Chris, while you never, ever, it's true, actually say the words, Vince Foster was murdered, or James McDougall was murdered, the clear implication going unsaid and between most of the lines that one hears from you is that you suspect that.
Well, in the Foster case, all I have been saying, and this carries over to the McDougal case, we haven't really seen what the investigators or even the authorities have done yet with McDougal.
And what I'm saying there is that the procedure should be followed.
Normal procedures weren't followed with Vincent Foster.
So this has given rise to conspiracy theories and to murder theories.
So I mean that I'm saying it's murder because they didn't do some of the most basic things you need to do in a typical homicide investigation.
Also, suicides are supposed to be treated as homicides.
If two of the paramedics reported officially in their reports that Foster was murdered, that is a story the public should know about.
If Webster Hubble on the night of the death was indicating it, that is a story the public should know about.
If there's no explanation of where Foster was on the afternoon of his death, I think that's a gaping hole that the authorities should fill in for us.
Foster was the deputy Whitehouse counsel, one of the highest officials in this country, and the cavalier way that they treated that investigation, I know, I think is very, very dangerous to the rest of us, even if it was a suicide, open and shut case.
I'm not going to press you on the matter, but I insist that everything you say leads a casual listener to believe that you believe or are very suspicious that there was a murder.
All right, you think all of this is connected, and I'm even going to bring it on up to the Monica Lewinsky business now.
You told me something earlier today that I think is relevant when you consider McDougall's untimely passing, and that would be that Linda Tripp, who has the tapes allegedly, of Monica Lewinsky, is under guard.
And what I pointed out today to you, Art, was that this is very similar to the situation where David Hale, who was the first cooperating Whitewater witness.
I haven't seen the letter, but I would suppose that she would be a target.
In fact, I know there was a little debate within Starr's office, and a number of his more experienced prosecutors thought he was crazy for even attempting to get her as a cooperating witness, because she's already got sort of tainted credibility.
She claimed, for example, on part of the tapes that she embellishes her lies.
There's her former school teachers claiming things about her.
The White House can easily claim, you know, she's just a young woman who's embellishing her stories.
Better, according to my people that are close to the investigation thing, put her in with Vernon Jordan and Bill Clinton, charge them all with being in a conspiracy to obstruct justice with the Paula Jones lawsuit.
But if there's a pattern activity, a jury doesn't have to have one of them admit that that was done.
If a jury thinks, and the prosecutors present a good case, that how unusual it would be for a White House intern to have Vernon Jordan, the president's right-hand attorney in Washington, going up and down the country looking for a job for this young lady, if he can't produce other White House interns where he's done this, he'd be in a little trouble.
And, of course, there were a lot of meetings with Clinton.
But what I'm saying is here, so far, until you get some more named perjury or somebody asking somebody to lie, unless you've got proof of that, you're whistling in the wind.
Maybe you are, but the problem is that you have 20 hours of her on tape, so it's going to be hard for her to change her story and to say to a jury that she just embellished for 20 hours.
Yeah, but if I was a president's lawyer, if I was a president's lawyer, I'd say, come on, listen to the whole tape, especially the part where she says she embellishes.
Well, yeah, you can, but then you have the problem of, according to the New York Times, Betty Curry, the president's own secretary, has cooperated with Star and said that he instructed her and coached her what to say to investigators.
Well, again, I don't know, not being a lawyer, but from what I understand, if you can show enough of a pattern of events, the statutes are fairly broad enough that a jury has a lot of leeway.
Now, whether Starr would do that and actually bring indictments against these people is another question.
Well, there's not two sides given to a grand jury.
Now, sure, Starr can go in there and probably, if he does his best, persuade a jury with a mountain of the kind of evidence you've been talking about tonight that they ought to bring an indictment.
You might get that done because you don't have both sides, but try taking that into a court and maybe you're dead.
I don't think it's going to happen because I don't think Starr is a very tough prosecutor.
And when this first broke, if you recall, I was on your program, and I basically said anybody that thinks this is going to lead to Clinton's resignation or a quick resolution of this because Starr is at the helm, they don't bet the ranch, don't bet the farm.
And sure enough, everything I said on those opening programs has come true.
And I think one of the reasons you have people like Trent Lott yelling about Starr is that they know here's a guy that was given jurisdiction over Travelgate, over FileGate.
He took, you know, and again, go back to Vince Foster, he took three years in a case that should have taken a week.
So then he comes out and he gives a press conference and he says, well, actually, I'm going to stay because I never consulted with my own deputies on the status of my own investigation.
And I think I really ought to stay.
I mean, those literally were his words.
So this is a guy who says that he's devoted to this case, and then he went through the embarrassing situation a couple of months ago of having, well, of having, no, the quitting took place in, what was it, early 96?
But then he went through the embarrassing situation a few months ago where he had to reimburse the government for his apartment in Little Rock because he wasn't there.
The maximum he was there in a whole year period was no more than three days a month.
Yeah, all I was driving at was that if he's motivated to drag out the investigation and stay where he is, to make all the money, the millions, whatever, then why did he try to quit, only under pressure returning?
Got any insight?
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Well, I think he was coming under a lot of criticism at that point.
There was sort of a quiet criticism in Washington from both the right and the left, Carville on one side, and then there started to be some murmurings in Congress at that time.
That was not - I mean, this was not the center of discussion every Saturday or Sunday during all the talk shows when he did resign.
But I guess he felt that the pressure had gotten enough and that he wanted to take a break.
And then when he saw it was a firestorm of controversy when he resigned, he decided to stick it out.
Now, who knows what he's going to do, but I think it would be a little bit difficult for him to resign.
However, I think it would be a good thing if he did.
I think it would be good to get somebody who has a clean slate, who's known as being impartial, who doesn't have as much baggage.
And we've already discussed in this program, he never bothered, apparently, according to McDougal, even looking at connections between Foster and Whitewater.
Well, we have all the documents, for example, from the Fisk investigation.
And McDougal wasn't even interviewed for the Fisk investigation by the FBI.
That's really weird.
And none of the colleagues of Foster were interviewed and questioned about Foster's connection with David Hale and Madison guarantee for that investigation.
You remember during the course of that investigation that the editor of the Washington Post was under intense pressure to stop this whole thing.
Intense pressure.
The Post, in the middle of it anyway, or when it was getting started to the middle, was getting slam-dunked again and again and again and again, under a lot of pressure.
Has your newspaper come under the same kind of pressure from this administration?
Yeah, and they said that he clearly said he asked to identify a reporter they hated the most, that it was me.
One clearest sign, and Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post called me up and he said, I never heard in all the time I've covered Washington, this White House or any White House actually named someone like it.
A reporter being singled out.
The White House for years have been encouraging the press to do stories on people they don't like.
And I'm one of them, my publisher, the newspaper, the Western Journalism Center.
And they turned over a congressional document, a 331-page document, the Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce.
And it was all about Vince Foster.
They're very concerned about the Vince Foster case.
Now, I ask that you not judge Stephen on his vocabulary.
Stephen's a farm boy from Nebraska.
He'll tell you that himself here in a minute.
In fact, we'll ask him about his background.
But rather, judge him on what he says about his machine, its workings, and all the rest of it.
As you know, I am fascinated beyond belief with time travel.
I believe time travel is possible.
And I believe that based on guests that I've had that are obviously of very high credibility rating, like Michio Kaku, theoretical professor of physics, one of the best in the country.
And he certainly thinks it's going to be possible.
Going to take a lot of power, though, he says.
So in a moment, we enter the realm of the very unusual.
Like we don't always do that anyway, huh?
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A farm boy, born, raised, adopted, I guess, and then raised on a farm, chickens, cows, the whole thing, suddenly claims to be able to build a time machine.
Now, how do you get from the cows and the chickens to a time machine?
Some people, I don't know what it is, but some people get better results when the switch is in the off mode than in the on mode.
Now, there is really an erratic breakup in the wave when it's in the off mode.
But when you have an oscilloscope hooked up to the machine and the multi-dimensional stabilizer is activated, it produces a number of dips in the sine wave itself, and each dip represents a harmonic.
I mean, what Okay, first of all, we place the time coils around our head, which would be basically a set of phone cords, which is designed to feed the third eye or the spiritual energy through the third eye region into the unit.
Okay, after these time coils are positioned around your forehead over the third eye region, you then start operating, well you then start turning the top dial while stoking the rubbing plate in a clockwise or counterclockwise rotation using your first yeah the rubbing plate is the second half of the machine down below the dials and the switches.
So in other words, you're concentrating on when you want to go, and you're rubbing, and you're turning the dial, and when your finger stops, you know you've reached the right place.
And once you get that stick, the energy from your soul is fed right through the third eye region on into the unit, where it's stepped up to the zero vector.
Top of the morning to you, morning now in most time zones.
My guest is the wild man of the prairie, Stephen Gibbs.
He produces, he makes, constructs time machines.
No kidding, folks.
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And we'll get the rest of the description of the machine's operation here in a moment.
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And then there are a couple of bar magnets that come with the unit.
Now this is something that is not included in my catalog, but and these bar magnets are to help to determine the polarities on the open end of the electromagnet so that you only receive the north polarized field of it.
Actually, you know, Stephen, I just happened to think that you could factory set this by color coding, determining which is north before you send this out and simply color coding the two plugs.
Yeah, I do, but it always seems like, yeah, I know what you're talking about, but it's easier for me if I just put one color one plug red and the other one black, and then if they don't...
Sometimes you'll just be seen flickering out and then you'll come right back.
Whereas, so in other words, that person, to the observer, that person will look like, you know, you're only gone for maybe a split second, but the person who went through time may have been gone for like a day or two.
In fact, they had video of her vehicle falling through that machine directly with not even a pause in the middle, and yet she was gone for, I think it was 18 hours.
And the best thing we can do, now I know that you could talk about other types of travel, but the best thing we can do is talk about incidents of actual physical time travel.
And I was talking with another person, you know, if he had set up some sort of a vortex or doorway when they went over to investigate the matter, they might have got transported themselves.
Well, I was wondering if it might be possible that this fellow in Australia left the machine running and these other poor saps walked in and away they went.
Now, also, earlier today on the phone, you told me that some kind of officials, FBI, NSA, CIA, I don't know who they were, recently came to see you trying to catch you for fraud.
They wanted to show Warner Brothers as to what type of research I was doing.
They were thinking, they had convinced me and a bunch of other of my friends who were with me that they needed the machine to help them make a motion picture.
Well, after they started examining it for a while, they gave me a call, and he had a scientist who was really very much interested in experimenting with the device, or he knew a scientist.
And I warned him over the telephone, you know, don't activate it over in Los Angeles, otherwise you're going to go poof.
But, you know, I was kind of toying with him a little bit, because I figured if these people were going to get me for fraud, you know, what better way than to send them off to another time period?
And not only that, but they strangely disappeared right into thin air shortly after I told them not to mess with it, you know, giving them the apple, you know.
Oh, I was basically advertising through different sources.
There was a company up in Idaho that was distributing, well, he's still distributing my information.
I don't want to say who it is for certain, as that could also get me into trouble.
And he was saying to me one day, you know, you know, it'd be a great idea if you'd start your own business in this area by putting ads in different magazines.
And so I started things up, and it finally took off.
Stephen is out in the prairie lands of Nebraska, and he's a farm boy.
But long ago, somebody gave him plans for a time machine.
And by the way, I had no idea.
Stephen has a website.
I've just got a facts from his webmaster.
I had no idea that he had a website.
It is http: forward slash forward slash home in reach.
That's I-N-R-E-A-C-H dot com forward slash D as in dog, O as in ocean, V as in Victor, forward slash TT.htm.
And according to his webmaster, his catalog is on his website along with the same diagram that I've got up on my website.
Now, I had no idea Stephen had a website.
We'll get back to Stephen and all of this in just a moment.
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Now, I have become aware of a man who has, well, I guess he bought one of Stephen Gibbs time machines.
And so I thought it might be interesting to hear from this person.
Now, you may recall the other day, we got a call on the air from somebody who had just received his time machine, was about to use it, tentatively considering using it.
You know, looking at this, even though it may seem silly, you know, a coil coming out of one side of the machine that you would wrap around your head, and a very powerful electromagnet that you would put at the center of your body, and then the dials and the rubbing plate and all the rest of it.
But actually, if you believe in hyperdimensions, that there are other dimensions, then indeed this might be a way to resonate that.
Who knows?
At any rate, here's a guy who bought one of Steven's machines, and I thought I'd bring him on the air.
And then just as he talked about on the radio, you put the magnet basically in your belly button area and activated tremendous current through it, huh?
But in order to be able to travel on the wavefront of time, you have to step in between dimension into the zero-point vacuum, and then you can travel forward and backwards.
I would say keep the machine close by you because let's say for some reason that you do go somewhere physically, it would be nice to have this machine with you so you could plug it in wherever you're at.
What I suggest to a lot of people who buy units from me that, you know, in order, because a lot of these grid points are far away from where a person, you know, lives at.
Well, yeah, what you get is a DC, a 12-volt DC to, or DC to AC inverter that converts 12-volt DC into 150-volt AC that plugs right into your cigarette lighter.
And that way, if you want to take your vehicle with you through time, you can just program that into the unit and off you go.
And now, if there are some people, you know, I wanted to state that if there are some people who order machines, that they would probably, the early ones who come in, the early orders that come in, I can probably have them processed before the end of this year, whereas the latecomers will probably have to wait until around the middle of 99 or towards the end of 99.
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That would be the storm that passed through my area a couple of days ago, now rearing its very, very strong El Nino head in the Midwest.
And I understand there is a sincere emergency going on.
So we're going to be looking into that here very shortly.
In the meantime, if you have questions for Stephen Gibbs, I'll come now.
And I just wanted to ask you, Mr. Gibbs, have you had anyone with time travel actually having problems of, especially if they physically go into the future, of having problems with diseases or any kind of viruses at all that are not introduced at this point?
But see, the thing that people don't realize is the unit puts an extremely powerful tachyon field around you that repels any chance for coming down with any of these viruses.
And not only that, you probably wouldn't stay there long enough to contract something.
Now, I know somebody who was using a couple of caduceus wound Tesla coils that went to the year 2008, shortly after the New World Order is established, and found out that the Christians are disposed during that time period by means of flamethrowers.
The ones who don't accept the biochip, either in their right hand or in their forehead, from what I was told, are taken to an affirmatory in the year 2008 where they are literally burnt alive in front of several eyewitnesses.
Now, this is something that a scientist saw when he went physically to that year.
And he actually has a lot of documented evidence to back up that he has made this jump.
Now, I don't dare mention names because this could definitely get me into trouble.
But he was working for some government agency back in World War II from as close as I could tell.
But he likes to keep his whereabouts unknown because he's really not from this time period.
No, no, there's safety catches in it that, you know, prevents any overload.
It's like, you know, if you decide to activate it over in Imperampa in Las Vegas, the amount of energy put out by the field is so, or put out by the machine is so fantastically highly intense that it would short out all manner of darkness in that area, even if it did it was tuned to a hell region and so basically the uh...
But no, I thought about, you know, that you might be going, that you might accidentally be tripped off into a negative dimension, but the more I think about it, from my own experiences and what from other people have told me that even if you decide to activate it over a negative grid, the energy would short out the negative grid.
And so you probably wouldn't end up in a hell region.
You would probably just simply, you know, pass through the grid with one hell of a headache.
He had a fascinating program, and I rate him up very high, like 1999 now.
Stephen, I have a couple of questions.
One, I've studied Indian mysticism, and I know that from some of my studies that there are people who can time travel without machines, I guess through other means.
But I have two questions.
One is in studying Nicola Tesla's inventions, and I actually have had my hand on one of the patents, which was called the Violet Flame Invention that he invented, which people are trying to figure that must have been for healing.
So I can see why this could and would work.
My two concerns would be, one, is there any problem of internal combustion if a person's physical health was to have a lot of gases in their body.
In the witness well, because it steps up the energy too damn much and you can then overheat yourself and where you could easily refer to as you can burst into flames.
And now, believe me, after listening to your warnings, I will read the directions, but otherwise, I'd say, uh-huh, okay, this goes here, this goes here, turn it on, let's see what happens.
And with my luck, you know, somebody would drop a diamond or something in the witness well, and I'd go up like that.
Yeah, it would, yeah, you'd pop out wherever the, well, like if you went through a grid point in one location, then you'd pop out at that same grid point in the other time period.
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So unless you program it for by location.
If I went back to 1971, I would be 43 and I wouldn't necessarily be in Germany.
If I was somewhere else, could I travel to Germany and meet myself?
Well, yeah, there's a, I would say at the maximum, there's a nine-hour time limit that you stay in the other time period, then you just automatically fade back to the present.
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Okay, okay, so it just sort of automatically brings you back?
Yeah, yeah, I'm about three hour, three or four hour drive from there.
The next time, maybe when I go up to visit my friend in Omaha, you know, should you happen to be, you know, if you could leave me a phone number or something.
well yeah you're in touch with the creators what you uh when you pass through that zero vector you see uh you you're you're you're actually you know passing through a realm that uh Well, in a sense, you do.
You're given whatever the Lord allows you to have in connection with the machine.
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But wouldn't you become one with the Lord because you would be omnipresent and eternal, immortal when you're beyond time and space?
Oh, that's a good place for us to end it, Stephen.
Listen, I'm going to give out your address.
Folks, you can get a time travel catalog, which I guarantee is great to have on your coffee table, even if you never get a machine, by writing to, sending $1 to Stephen Gibbs.
Well, there's Stephen Gibbs, folks, from Nebraska.
And when I get my machine, what would you recommend that I do after hearing all of this?
I've got a lot of thinking to do about that.
All right, look, I understand there is a very, very serious situation going on in the Midwest.
And I know there are people in trucks and cars out there stuck.
And what we're going to do when we come back is open a special line for people in the Midwest who are stuck in this hellish storm that I've been hearing about.