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Feb. 19, 1998 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - The Life of Edgar Cayce

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unidentified		From the Kingdom of Nine.
unidentified		It is close to close a.m. with our bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's our once again, here I am.
		Good morning.
		Coming up in a moment is Edgar E. Casey.
		The son of that rocket.
		The son of Edgar Casey.
		The sleeping prophet.
		So much to talk with him about.
		We will continue through the evening to monitor the Anthrax story.
		We're getting additional information, and as we get it to you, we will get it on the air.
		So if you monitor here, you're not going to lose out at all.
		you And now a very unusual opportunity to interview Edgar E. Casey.
		He is the son of Gertrude and Edgar Casey, who you may know as the Sleeping Prophet, was born in Selma, Alabama, February 9th, 1918.
		Lives now in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
		Graduated from Duke University in 1939 with a BS in EE.
		Oh, my.
		Employed in 1940 by Virginia Power as an engineer.
		Has military service.
		Went to officer candidate school in the Signal Corps.
		I can see we're going to have a lot in common.
		Was a captain in the Air Force.
		Post-war, returned to work with Virginia Power, which is now Dominion Resources, and retired in 1983 after 43 years of service.
		He has two children.
		He is a registered professional engineer in Virginia, a member of the First Presbyterian Church of Virginia Beach, and many more organizations.
		His published works include Edgar Casey on Atlantis, The Outer Limits of Edgar Casey's Power, and The Mysteries of Atlantis Revisited.
		Here is Edgar E. Casey.
		Edgar, welcome to the program.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is such an honor to have you on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you do many interviews?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I did one last week.
		I don't know as I do so many.
		I do know now and then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I barely know where to begin with you.
		You know, radio is wonderful.
		We have the luxury of time with radio, and we don't have to do anything too quickly, or nothing's really pre-planned.
		So I think what I'd like to do is to ask you everything you can remember about your father.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't know whether I programmed long enough for that or not, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were the two of you close, Edgar?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		The whole family was very close, Art.
		Dad was a very ordinary person in everyday life.
		I mean, he loved to work in the garden.
		He liked to fish.
		He liked to play games.
		He was a very good carpenter.
		He used to repair shelves and doors.
		He'd built a garage at one house we lived in.
		It was just those 30 to 40 minutes once or twice a day when he was able to put himself into a self-induced hypnotic trance.
		To all intents and purposes, he'd go to sleep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did all that, how did it begin for him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did he, if you know, how did he even realize that he had this?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, this all began before Bachime, so it's sort of hearsay, but I've heard dad and the family talk about it.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He was a young, excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's quite, right?
		It's good close hearsay, the best we're going to get.
		So tell us what they told you.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		When he was a child, he had some rather strange experiences.
		For example, he wasn't a very good student in school, and he was having trouble with his spelling lesson one night.
		And his grandfather kind of got impatient with him.
		And finally, my father said, if you just let me think about it, let me just study it a minute, and I think I'll know everything.
		And his father said, all right, very roughly.
		And he went out of the room.
		In about five minutes, he came back.
		Meanwhile, Edgar Casey had laid down on his head on his spelling book and gone to sleep for five minutes.
		When he woke up, he knew every word in the book and what page it was on.
		And from then on, instead of a poor student, he became a very bright student.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was at what age?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was about when he was in school.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I guess they had schools then up through about what would be equivalent to the seventh or eighth grade, the kind of one-room schoolhouse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, he actually slept on the book and absorbed it.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's what it sounds like.
		Later on, when he was a young man working in a bookstore, he lost his voice.
		He couldn't talk at all.
		Of course, he wasn't much of a salesman when he couldn't talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		And all the doctors in town, he'd been to everybody, and none of them seemed to be able to help him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like Gordon Michael Scallion.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, hypnotism was a sort of new fad then, and somebody suggested that, why don't you try a hypnotist, that maybe he can give you a post-hypnotic suggestion such that you'll be able to talk when you wake up.
		Well, Dad tried it, and there was a medical doctor, several people in attendance when they tried this experiment.
		And under hypnosis, he could talk a little bit, but he wouldn't accept a post-hypnotic suggestion from the hypnotist.
		And when he woke up or came out of his trance, he still couldn't talk.
		But the hypnotist suggested, he says, you're such a good subject.
		He says, maybe you can put yourself into a hypnotic trance.
		Maybe you can give yourself the suggestion.
		Maybe he'll take it from you instead of me.
		When Ted was, of course, he was willing to try anything.
		He laid down and immediately he was able to go to sleep or Put himself into a hypnotic trance.
		He didn't remember anything he said at the time, but he described his condition and said it was due to congestion in the throat.
		He says, We'll clear this up.
		And he turned real red.
		His face got red.
		His throat got red.
		He coughed up a little blood and woke up and he could talk.
		As far as I know, that was the first reading, the one on himself.
		And, of course, the doctor, there was an MD there, Dr. Ketchum, who said, well, Ego, if you can do this for yourself, maybe you can do this for some of my patients.
		Well, Dad was always willing to try to help anyone he could.
		And he tried giving readings for other people, and he was very successful, some very accurate readings.
		And that's how he developed, as I understand it, this ability.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About what year would all that have been?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, this was way before my time.
		It was when he was about 20 years old.
		It was back in the late 1800s in Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The power of healing is one that I believe in very strongly, and that's a remarkable story.
		He coughed up blood, and he regained his power of speech.
		In other words, he cured himself.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He cured himself, that's right.
		That was the first so-called reading.
		I think the word reading came from lack of a better word to describe what he did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what he did sounds like diagnosis and treatment.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		That was the main focus of his reading were the physical readings.
		He gave over 14,000 of these readings in his lifetime, and about 60% of them were diagnosis of other individuals' physical condition.
		He didn't actually treat the condition himself as he did for himself there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did diagnosis.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He did diagnosis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		14,000 of them, Edgar?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Over 14,000.
		I think it's 14,470-something or something like that.
		There are copies of these readings at the Association for Research and Enlightenment in Virginia Beach with the doctor's reports and the patient's reports.
		And of course, the people who didn't follow them didn't get any results.
		If people followed them halfway, they got halfway results.
		And if they followed them in detail, they got excellent results.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By that, you mean the diagnosis?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		The diagnosis, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then your father would recommend to them a course of action?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		He would suggest the course of treatment.
		It varied.
		That was the thing.
		He didn't stick to any one particular thing.
		I mean, sometimes he would recommend an operation.
		Sometimes he would recommend a diet.
		Sometimes even osteopathic chiropractic treatments, which didn't set well with the medical doctors.
		But sometimes he would describe compounds or herbs that he would give the formula for and make it up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you could probably sense deficiencies of one sort or another in somebody's dietary habits.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		It sounded like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Did your father ever describe the precise way that he was able to discern this or that it came to him?
		Or was it a mystery to him?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I think it was a mystery to him and to everybody else.
		Of course, he was asked questions about it, and some of the answers sound as strange as the stuff.
		He said that this was an ability that he had inherited in a previous lifetime that he had done before.
		It sounded like an ability or talent that was developed.
		Now, this idea of reincarnation was something that came up much later in the early 20s.
		I had been born then, and it was while we were in Dayton, Ohio.
		Someone suggested, wanted, I guess they call it an astrological reading, wanted to know what effect the stars had on a person's life.
		And he said, well, the stars didn't have as much effect on anybody's life as his previous lifetimes.
		And he proceeded to describe this person's previous lifetimes and the effect it had on his present life.
		Now, when he woke up and heard what he'd said, he was as astounded as anyone else because he didn't know anything about reincarnation or karma.
		He didn't realize that many people in the world believed in it.
		And that he always said if he ever gave a reading that hurt anyone, he'd never give another.
		But he never did.
		And some of the life readings seemed that vocational guidance readings seemed as helpful as some of his physical readings.
		Did he give them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did he get any information on who he had been in a previous life?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He did.
		It was a long time ago, and there were several previous lifetimes.
		I don't remember all the details of that now.
		There's a book been, a recent book been written about it, I think, that mentions some of his previous incarnations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When did you become aware?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old were you when you realized your dad was different?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, growing up in a family is a little different than being exposed to this from, you know, all at once from the outside.
		And when I was real little, I thought everyone's father gave readings, you know.
		But, you know, I guess the first real vivid experience I had with it was a reading on myself.
		I was about seven or eight years old.
		We'd just moved to Virginia Beach, and I was standing in front of a fireplace in a pair of flannel pajamas, and a spark popped out and set those flannel pajamas on fire, and they burned up just real quickly.
		And my mother was coming down the stairs with a shirt and grabbed me and wrapped the shirt around the pajamas and put out the fire.
		But it burned my left leg very badly.
		I was out of school about four or five months, and the doctor never looked at it.
		I asked Dad to please give me a reading.
		He did immediately and described what to do for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you do for it?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was a number of things.
		There were fluids to wash it with.
		I think it was onion teen at that time was one of the for that preparation to put on it for a very severe burn.
		And as it began to heal later, the skin grew across so I couldn't straighten out my leg.
		And then he told me what to rub on it, what to do to straighten it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		It did straighten out.
		I played football, basketball, baseball in high school and college.
		And it doesn't bother me at all.
		He even gave me something to remove the scar and I rubbed it on for a while and then I decided I couldn't see it and I didn't really care about it and I quit doing it.
		So I still have a scar on the back of my leg about half as big as the original one from my ankle to my butt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well you you regarded this then as a normal thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But at some point in your life you had to realize dad's a little bit different than everybody else.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Oh there's no question about it.
		And that was one of the things that got me into writing the first book.
		I had had a life reading also that now not every life reading he gave described or mentioned Atlantis.
		Of the 14,000 readings he gave, about 2,500 of them are the so-called vocational guidance readings, the life readings.
		About 700 of them, maybe almost a third, did mention past incarnations of people in Atlantis.
		Well, Atlantis was just a myth.
		It is to many people still.
		There isn't any proof that it ever existed.
		Of course, there's no proof that it never existed either.
		So I thought I could go down there to the Association.
		We have copies of all these readings in the files at Virginia Beach.
		At that time, they were on microfilm and had just been put on to preserve them.
		When the dad gave a reading, a copy was given to the patient and a copy was kept on file.
		I said, I could go down there and maybe look up all the life readings on Atlantis and find some proof that it either existed or didn't exist.
		At that time, I didn't care which way.
		I just wanted to know the answer.
		So I said, well, I could probably do this in a few weeks.
		And that was a very naive idea.
		About a year later, I had read every life reading on Atlantis that I could lay my hands on.
		And the amazing thing about it was some of these readings given 20 years apart.
		They didn't contradict each other.
		And it wasn't that he gave a reading on Atlantis and said it existed.
		He gave a reading on a person and mentioned an incarnation in Atlantis and told that person's characteristics and life and described how it affected him now.
		And by putting all those little pieces together, trying to arrange them in some kind of chronological order, that's what came out of that book.
		Well, it turned out to be very successful.
		It came out in 1968.
		It's still in print after 30 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what is the name of it?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Edgar Casey on Atlantis.
		And now we've got an update.
		The Mysteries of Atlantis revisited.
		There have been when he gave these readings, this was before radiocarbon dating.
		And many of the statements he made back in the 20s and 30s, when many of them were given, sounded ridiculous because the ideas of geology and archaeology were quite different then than they are now.
		And when he said that man had been in North America 10,000 years ago or 20,000 years ago and in South America even longer or that the poles had shifted in the past, all kind of things like that, well, it sounded ridiculous.
		But now with radiocarbon dates of 17,500 in Pennsylvania, 20,000 in California, 35,000 in South America, it's turning out that man was in the places that Edgar Casey said he was at the time he said he was.
		So it kind of stands to reason that if statements like that were true, well, he made the statement one time, Art, that the Nile River used to flow west into the Atlantic.
		That was 60 years ago.
		And of course, there wasn't any way to prove whether the Nile River flowed into the Atlantic or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That millions of years ago.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		But in 1987, when they took the pictures from the space shuttle with the ground-penetrating radar with Sahara, it showed that the old course of the Nile was west into the Atlantic, exactly where Casey said it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you did all this research and you researched these people who had been said to have prior lives in Atlantis, what kind of proof did you run into or cooperation?
		For example, people who may have known each other or references that could be checked from one person's reading to another person's reading, that kind of thing?
		Did you find that?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That was the thing.
		I call it the internal consistency of the reading.
		The fact that one reading didn't contradict another.
		A reading given 20 years later was just like a different person, was just as if it had stopped and taken up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But did you find places where they corroborated each other?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, about the times that he would very seldom did he mention dates unless somebody asked him.
		But he did mention two or three.
		Now the origin, I mean the myth of Atlantis or the story of Atlantis originated with Plato back in the 5th century BC.
		And he described it as he said that Solon, someone had been in Egypt and the priest in Egypt had described to him this civilization that existed in the they called it beyond the pillars of Hercules, which was the Rock of Gibraltar and another mountain on the other side of the Mediterranean, the entrance to the Mediterranean from the Atlantic.
		And he said it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules out in the South Atlantic, and it was a great civilization and very advanced, and that it had been destroyed in a volcanic catastrophe 9,000 years earlier.
		Well, that put it in the class of a myth because nobody believed that there had been any civilization that long ago, 9,000 to 10,000 BC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		And since Plato's story, there have been thousands of books and pamphlets written about it, some of them trying to amass evidence that Plato was right, and some of them trying to prove he was wrong, and some of them try to rationalize the story by moving it to a different location or changing the date.
		And the thing that convinced me about it was the fact that Dad said that people had had incarnations there, and he was so accurate in his physical readings, and he was so accurate in many of his other Life readings describing the characteristics of persons and the kind of occupation they were in, the problems they were having with their family.
		I mean, the other readings had been accurate.
		The things he said in the other readings about geological and archaeological events of the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That kind of came later, didn't it?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		A lot later, right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		They've been so accurate in that, why, you know, maybe there's some truth in this Atlantis story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there is.
		I think that your father suggested there would be something called the Hall of Records found beneath the left paw of the Sphinx.
		Is that correct?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's mentioned in a reading, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When your father went under, he didn't really, he was called the sleeping prophet, but from what you've told me, it sounds more like he was the self-hypnotized prophet who would go into a sort of a hypnotic trance.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		And I don't really think of him as a prophet Art.
		I think I know he didn't really go to sleep and say that this is going to happen and that's going to happen.
		He always said that the future is not fixed.
		We can change it.
		And I think it's a hopeful statement rather than something that's inevitable.
		But he did mention these things that had happened in the past.
		And when the scientific evidence turns up for a pole shift in the past, when scientific turns up for evidence for climatic changes in the past at the times he said they were, and men being in the earth at the times he said they were, and the fact that man had been in the earth instead of a few hundred thousand years, millions of years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, we're going through all these things now.
		We're at a breakpoint, so hold on, relax.
		You've got a good 10 minutes.
		We'll be right back to you.
		Edgar E. Casey, the son of Edgar Casey, is my guest.
		I'm Ardell, and this is Coast to Coast A.M. I do love me.
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		and said Take off another way Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye on the Wildcard Line at Area Code 702-727-1295.
		That's Area Code 702-727-1295.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		Good morning.
		My guest is Edgar E. Casey, the son of Edgar Casey, who was called the Sleeping Prophet.
		Edgar E. Casey himself is now beginning to get up in years.
		And it is a very rare and opportunity and certainly a great honor to have the chance to talk with him about his father and, in fact, about his own life.
		We'll get back to him in a moment.
		We're also monitoring, of course, the ongoing story that we spent the first hour and a half on with regard to anthrax.
		And we had one whale of a scare in Las Vegas earlier today.
		Is it over?
		Dono.
		Hope so.
unidentified		Hope so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you you Once again, here is Edgar E. Casey, the son of Edgar Casey, known as, known as the Sleeping Prophet.
		Mr. Casey, welcome back to the program.
		Thank you, Art.
		Sir, I'm curious, how old were you when your father passed on?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, he passed away in 1947 into World War II.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I was about 27.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		27.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So by that time, you were fully aware of your father's abilities, differences, talents?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		I used to listen to readings when I was growing up for other people, and I knew what he did.
		I guess nobody knew how he did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edgar, when did he begin to get visions of earth changes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At what point in all these readings did that begin to happen?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think it came over a period of time.
		I say he didn't really make a lot of prophecies, but he made statements in readings all the way from the early 20s on up till the time he died.
		And so some of these statements were years apart.
		Some of them were fairly recent in the 40s, 35s, and 40s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when he referred, for example, to pole shifts, was he referring to the fact that the polls had previously shifted, or did he know they would shift again, or both?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I think both.
		I think mostly it was about past pole shifts.
		And that sounds like a wild idea when he first mentioned it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not so wild today.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Not now.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		No, there's scientific evidence that the polls have shifted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to ask you to say good and close to your phone because our connection could be a lot better.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to talk a little louder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's excellent.
		Absolutely excellent.
		What else, other than pole shifts, did your father see coming for our world?
		Did he really look ahead at any point and give us any indication of what's coming?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, he always said, Art, that the future is not fixed, that people can change it.
		He did mention one thing that we have some scientific corroboration of.
		And speaking about future earthquakes, he mentioned some particular areas in the United States.
		You know, the largest earthquake in the United States was not in California, but in Missouri, right.
		Well, he mentioned these particular areas, and some 30 years, 25, 30 years after that reading was given, there was an organization, the American Association of Engineering Societies, that made a study of the fault zones in the eastern United States.
		And they published maps of these areas.
		And in fact, we have them in our book, Mysteries of Atlantis Revisited.
		There's a chapter in there dealing with the earthquakes.
		And we got permission to publish these maps of the fault zones.
		And the interesting thing about it, they were exactly the same areas that Casey mentioned years ago.
		And the unsettling thing about it is that this organization concluded that the likelihood of a major earthquake in the eastern United States in the next 25 years, this was published in 1987, was 100%.
		So that's pretty near a certainty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty near a certainty.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		And they don't know where or which area is going to be affected, but these areas were exactly the same ones that Casey mentioned.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		So I hope they're both wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did he ever describe to you when in trance, when in self-hypnosis, or rather how he would visualize things?
		Would he actually see them?
		Would these things come to him as a simple knowledge or a voice?
		Or in what manner was information imparted?
		Did he ever talk about that?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		My brother and I wrote a book about that art, The Outer Limits of Edgar Case's Power.
		And the fact that it dealt with the readings that were wrong.
		Everybody talks about Case's accuracy and how good he was and he was accurate.
		But we thought that we could find, there were some readings that seemed to be inaccurate.
		And we found maybe 150 to 200 out of the 14,000.
		Of course, that gives him still a pretty good percentage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sure does.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		1.99 or something like that.
		But anyway, we thought that you could learn as much about psychic ability in general and Education in particular by studying these ones that were wrong.
		I mean, where did he get his information?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My brother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And in what manner?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		In what manner, yeah.
		I think there are probably four, at least four sources of psychic information.
		I think what applied to Educase probably applies to any psychic.
		He was just especially a good one.
		But one would be unconscious memory.
		That is, everything you've ever thought or read or heard is somewhere in your mind, though you don't maybe remember it consciously all the time.
		He could tap that source.
		Another one would be telepathy.
		That is the communication of his mind with the mind of another individual, either living or dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And either in close proximity or on the other side of the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Of course, you would only know in that case what that other person knew.
		If you were trying to diagnose someone, I suppose unconsciously, subconsciously, that person, all the reactions in the body of the person he's diagnosing, if subconsciously, that person knows what's wrong with him.
		Maybe he doesn't consciously know, but all the reactions are there.
		And if you could communicate with his mind, subconscious mind, you could give a beautiful diagnosis of what his trouble was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, there are many who might suggest what your father did is the ancient equivalent of what's now known as remote viewing.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's another source that would be that.
		Clairvoyance.
		That is, seeing things at a distance.
		Not in every reading, but in some readings, he would say, well, there's a beautiful rooster.
		This man has a beautiful rooster in his yard.
		Or he's looking at a rosebush.
		Or he's arguing with his wife.
		That's very specific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very specific.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		In every case, we never found him to be wrong in a case like that.
		We always would try to call up the person or write the person and say, you know, do you have a red rooster?
		Or were you arguing with your wife?
		Or what were you doing at the time?
		And we never knew him to be wrong in a case like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then might I suggest to you then that you mentioned when he was wrong, the few times percentage-wise, that he was wrong.
		He said himself that not all that he saw would necessarily come true.
		In other words, we are not bound in some horrible little dance of what the future is going to be inevitably.
unidentified		Right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Let me give you an example of that.
unidentified		That brings us to the fourth source.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		There's two ways of looking at this source.
		Some people think there's such a thing as the Akashic record.
		That is, that everything that happens in the world leaves a record in time and space.
		And if you could tap this source of information, you'd have great infinite knowledge.
		Another way of looking at it is to think of it that we live in a third-dimensional world.
		For example, if you take a point and move it in a direction not contained within itself, you get a line.
		That's one direction, one dimension.
		It's infinitely long, but it has no width.
		You move the line at right angles to itself, you get a plane.
		Two-dimensional.
		It has no thickness, but it's infinitely long and wide.
		You move the plane at right angles to itself, you get a cube, three-dimensional world.
		That's the kind we live in.
		Suppose you could move that at right angles to itself, a direction not containing itself.
		We can't conceive of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would then be moving in another realm or another realm.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, suppose we moved it in time, in space.
		Suppose it existed yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and that we are only conscious of the present.
		If dad could somehow move into this other dimension, let me give you an example.
		Suppose we have a plane, a two-dimensional plane.
		It has no thickness, but it's infinitely long and wide.
		And we have a two-dimensional bug crawling in this plane in a little sine wave pattern.
		And he has a free will, he has a memory.
		He remembers where he was.
		He knows where he is.
		He knows nothing about the future.
		You're sitting up here looking down on this plane.
		You see where he's been, you see where he is, you see everything that could possibly Happen to him in the future, and you see it all at once.
		Now, he could never understand how you could see his past and present and future all at once because he has no concept of this third dimension, height.
		But if he has a free will, you could look at him and say, Well, now, if you continue in the way you're going at three o'clock tomorrow, you'll be right over there, and you'd be right.
		But since he has a free will, he could decide to go off in another direction, to change his sine wave pattern and go somewhere else.
		You could see everything that could happen to him and what would be most probable, but you couldn't be sure what he was going to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sure hope your father was right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope so too.
		Well, this way, if the past and present and future all exist at once, and the future exist as probabilities, and he could see what was likely to happen, but he couldn't be sure because it said it depends on what people do.
		And, of course, it's a little more complicated with millions of people than with one little bug, but you get the idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Also, it was said that your father, when he would go into trance, when he'd come out of trance, out of a particularly difficult viewing, and that this became worse as the years went on, it would drain him physically, make him weak.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, what happened to Art?
		Normally, he would give one or two readings a day.
		That is, it took a certain amount out of it.
		It wasn't exactly like physical exercise, but I suppose it was a mental strain in a way.
		And when he became popular, when the book There's a River came out, and he became popular overnight.
		People began to call him in the middle of the night, kind of like this conversation, but they would say, my wife is dying, my daughter's dying, you know, doctors can't help her.
		Can't you do something for her?
		Please give her a reading.
		And he got hundreds of those requests.
		He had to have the phone number, get an unlisted number.
		They brought the mail there in trucks.
		And he couldn't not help people.
		He felt like it's something you had to do.
		Instead of giving one or two readings a day, he started giving four, five, six, eight, ten.
		I mean, it was too much of a strain.
		In fact, he had a breakdown, and he had a reading on himself.
		And it just said that you're trying to do too much.
		If you continue to do this, it'll kill you.
		And he continued to do it, and it killed him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was, I'm sorry, how old was he at his death?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		67.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		67.
		That's actually fairly long-lived for those times.
		Right.
		Not a bad age.
		What is your current age, sir?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I had my 80th birthday last week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're 80 years old.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, congratulations.
		Oh, that's really something.
		Your father obviously passed on to you some good things and some strong genes.
unidentified		Well, I hope so for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did he pass on to you anything else?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, I had life readings.
		I don't talk about my personal readings, but I think they were very accurate.
		They've helped me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did he pass on to you any inherited ability?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't have any psychic ability.
		The only thing I can remember, I had a dream once I was eating a giant marshmallow.
		When I woke up, the pillow was gone.
		I was kidding y'all.
unidentified		But I really don't have any psychic abilities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What has it been like?
		You're now 80.
		What has it been like, sir, living with what your father was all these years?
		It surely has changed your life and shaped and affected your life completely.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it does.
		I mean, he suggested, for example, where I should go to school.
		He even said, you know, you could get a scholarship.
		He said, go to Duke and study engineering.
		He said, now, I graduated from a little high school that had 28 people in its graduating class in Virginia and Beach.
		And the chance of getting a scholarship from a small school looked like chances of a snowball in hell.
		But I was valedictorian of the class, but I was still, that's a small school.
		And I put in for a scholarship, and I got it.
		So he was right about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then you proceeded.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've enjoyed engineering.
		I think it's not, you know, you don't get rich, but I think you have a satisfying life.
		That is, if in my case, if you're happy in what you're doing, happy in the kind of work you do, I think that's the important thing, not how much money you make.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you were an engineer, so you were in the hard sciences.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's a long way from psychic research.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It sure is.
		Was that difficult for you at times?
		I am into electronics, and yet I deal with this kind of material on the radio.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I had a kind of a dual ratio there.
		I mean, I was living in a family with a man who was probably one of the most remarkable psychics in this country, and I watched it every day.
		I mean, I just tell you an example of a reading, the kind of things that would happen to be kind of curious.
		I used to listen to it as I was growing up, and he had a reading one time on a man that was supposed to be in his apartment in New York.
		And the mother gave him some suggestion and said, you will have before you the body of so-and-so at this address in New York.
		All he had to know was the person's name and where he would be at the time of the reading.
		Well, he lay there for a minute and he said, he's not here.
		He said, he's coming across town on a bus.
		Said, there's a lot of traffic.
		The bus is late.
		Said, we'll wait.
		He lay there for 15 minutes, didn't say a word.
		All of a sudden, he said, he's come in.
		And he proceeded to give the reading.
		At that time, my brother got up, went in the other room, called a man on the telephone.
		The man said, that's exactly right.
		He said, I knew I was supposed to be in my apartment.
		I was on my way there.
		There was a traffic accident or something.
		The bus was late.
		I just this minute walked in.
		Now, there's a beautiful piece of clairvoyance that I don't see anybody could have foreseen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did it ever scare you?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't know as it ever scared me.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		It made you think a lot of times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really hard.
		I wonder how a young man who's becoming an engineer was able to square all of this.
		And were there times the early years in your education when you would reject Or just simply couldn't believe?
		Or did you always simply understand what your father did was a normal thing?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if I considered it normal.
		I realized it was pretty abnormal, but I had seen it work in so many cases.
		You know, I grew up with it, and he had people that were successful, you know, had readings that were so successful for people.
		They had remarkable cures.
		They suggested vocations for people who succeeded in them after, you know, and they'd take up this occupation of this.
		Well, you would be good in this or something like that.
		And this had happened.
		It happened to me, and it happened so many times that, you know, you had faith in it.
		You thought that you knew that he was right.
		You knew he was accurate.
		Now, I don't know how.
		That was one of the reasons we wrote this book, this Mr. Sufs of Atlantis Revisited, that it showed the archaeological, geological discoveries that have happened in the recent past to show how accurate he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are a very devout Christian, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was your father?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he was.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He taught Sunday school in the Presbyterian church, and my brother and I both did, too, as a matter of fact, here in Virginia Beach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were there conflicts between his religion and the fact that he was a prophet, and we all know what it says of prophets in the Bible that they've got to be completely accurate or they're false prophets, and there must have been those accusations?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people didn't know what Dad did here.
		You know, when we first moved to the beach, it was a very small little fishing village.
		It wasn't the resort it is today.
		And most people thought he was a doctor.
		They used to call him Dr. Casey.
		And they really didn't know what he did.
		And he was a very normal person in everyday life.
		And most of the people, except someone who had had a reading, well, they knew him in everyday life.
		And you knew what a good carpenter he was, what a good gardener he was.
		They knew what a nice person he was.
		And he devoted his life to helping people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, we're at the bottom of the hour.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll do just 30 more minutes, and I'd like to open the lines and let some of my audience ask you questions, if that'd be all right.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		certainly and there is a Okay, hold on to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll get it on right after the bottom of the hour.
		Edgar E. Casey is my guest.
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		Now again, here's Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am.
		My guest is Edgar E. Casey, the son of Edgar Casey, known as the Sleeping Prophet.
		Mr. Casey is 80 years of age.
		This is a very rare opportunity for you to ask a question.
		If you have one, you know the phone numbers.
		Here we are.
		We'll get back to him in a moment.
unidentified		We'll get back to him in a moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Once again, Edgar E. Casey.
		Mr. Casey, of your father, how much is currently today myth versus what really happened?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I guess that a lot of books have been written about him, Art.
		Probably the best one is The Is a River by Tom Chagrew, who was my brother's roommate in college.
		That's an account of how he started his work.
		And Tom, in fact, I helped carry Tom upstairs when he had gone from 180 pounds down to about 90.
		And the doctors told him to go somewhere and die.
		There wasn't anything he could do for him.
		He was paralyzed from his neck down.
		He couldn't move a finger.
		And he followed the treatments and the readings dad gave, and he wrote the book when he got well.
		He never got so he could walk without crutches, but he did get up to the point he could go back to his job with the American Magazine and Herald Tribune newspaper.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So would you say the majority of what we know or what we can certainly read in that book is accurate, not myth?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess it depends on who you read, what you read.
		The fact that he was a prophet, I think, is a little exaggerated.
		I know he did say some things about the future that about the past that have certainly been proven accurate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of the things he said was that there would be a hall of records found beneath the left paw of the Sphinx.
		Now, I interviewed the director of antiquity, Zahia Wass, not long ago, and he answered in his normal, a very boisterous Egyptian accented voice, there has never been one grain of sand found here to show that there is anything that would relate to Atlantis.
		And that's what he said.
		But on the other hand, Mr. Casey, there are radar records, ground-penetrating radar now, showing that there are chambers beneath the Sphinx.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		There are records showing that there are certainly anomalies.
		Whether they're chambers or not hasn't been proven.
		You know, getting permission to dig beneath the Sphinx is kind of like going to Washington and said, I'd like to dig a hole under the Jefferson Memorial or the Lincoln Memorial or the Washington Monument.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very much like that, yes.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's the national treasures.
		You can't just go there and dig where you want to.
		Maybe they just haven't dug deep enough.
		There are some interesting things.
		I don't know whether Zahi was mentioned this or not.
		In fact, it upset a lot of the archaeologists.
		But Professor Schock from, he was a Yale-trained geologist.
		His specialty was rock weathering.
		And he went over to Egypt and looked at the base of the Sphinx.
		And he said that the weathering was definitely water weathering.
		It was not wind and sand weathering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He was the first person that would know.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		And he presented his findings at a geological convention in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, there have been sea encrustations removed from the rear side of the Sphinx, sir.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that the weathering there was, he says that it's water, and if it was, that means the Sphinx is much older than they thought.
		In fact, the work that the ARE did and sponsored in carbon dating the pyramids, of course, you can't carbonate stone, but you can carbon date fiber or bugs or any kind of plant that's gotten in the mortar.
		And the interesting thing about it was they wouldn't let us take any samples from inside the Great Pyramid, but they did let us take stuff from the outside.
		Well, it turned out that the pyramid was several hundred years older than they thought, which means that the Pharaoh they thought built it didn't, or else he lived a lot earlier than they think.
		And that really upset the Egyptologists.
		In fact, the blocks at the top turned out to be 300 or 400 years older than the ones at the bottom.
		Now, you know, it wasn't built from the top down, so that would indicate that the probably were repairs made to it.
		And if that was true, then it must be much older than they think it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, would I like to have you in the same room as Zaya Was.
		All right, let's go to the phones and say, first time caller line, you're on the air with Edgar Casey.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		My name is Martha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, Martha?
unidentified		In Kentucky.
		I'm really glad to talk to you, Mr. Bell, because I listen to your show all the time, and it's really great.
		Thank you.
		In fact, I've sent you a few messages.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a question for Mr. Casey?
unidentified		Yes, I would like to talk to Mr. Casey.
		I got to know the ARE when my sister had psoriasis really bad and nobody could fix it.
		And, of course, every doctor has, you know, ten different reasons why you would have psoriasis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And I'm a registered nurse.
		So I went to the ARE to get help for her.
		And in fact, she was healed.
		And Edgar Casey had these things that he said you should do for psoriasis, and it got better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then a lot of, Mr. Casey, a lot of the things that your father said as he took readings then later applied to other people in some way, in some help?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Yes, other people.
		That's the riot.
		Martha, that's a riot is a good example.
		In fact, there's a doctor up in Pennsylvania, I believe, that has treated a number of people by putting together a lot of the readings that Edgar Casey gave on people with psoriasis and making up a sort of regimen of treatment.
		And he's had great success in, as you say, curing people who have psoriasis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You told us there was a phone number that you had that people could call.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		There is an 800 number.
		If anybody's interested in knowing more about the readings, the Association for Research and Enlightenment in Virginia Beach does have a record of them.
		The number is 1-800-333-4499.
		And they can either call that number or they can write the Association of the Education Foundation at 67th and Atlantic Avenue, Virginia Beach, 23451.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will the Casey Foundation continue?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to think so.
		There is an organization.
		It probably has 25,000, 30,000 members in the United States and many members overseas and other countries.
		And the purpose is to preserve the records that Edgar Casey gave and make them available for study.
		And one thing that, as you pointed out, as Loth pointed out, one thing that can be done is people can come there and look at it and see if there are any suggested treatments for ailments similar to what they have that might be useful in their case.
		Of course, most of these readings were for individuals, and what might apply to one person might not apply to another.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did your father tackle diseases that were in fatal final stages, cancers, heart problems, that sort of thing?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes he would say, you know, that there's nothing that can be done for this person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he would.
		He would.
		He would virtually tell people they were going to die.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and that just, you know, he could suggest ways to make them comfortable, but he said, you know, there's nothing, it's too late.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did your father ever tell you, Mr. Casey, where he thought his power came from?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he knew.
		He had life readings on himself that said it was developed in a formal life, in formal lives.
		I think the sources that we talked about a few minutes ago, I think they apply, and I think he probably used a number of them.
		The rest of that chapter on the nature of psychic perception in the book had some reasons for why sometimes they work better on others.
		The fact that the attitudes and the purposes and the reason for the reading seem to affect it.
		I know for a fact if Edgar Casey were physically ill, or if he had a bad cold, or if he'd had a stomachache, if he'd had the flu, or if he were emotionally upset about something, that he didn't get as good a reading as he would when he was perfectly healthy.
		So certainly his physical health did affect the accuracy of some of the readings.
		I think there's such a thing, I guess you could call it psychic static.
		That, you know, sometimes you don't always get perfect radio or perfect television reception due to a thunderstorm or leaking ignition on a car or a transmission line or something that bothers the reception.
		I think there's maybe a psychic static like that.
		In other words, the purposes of the reading, dad wanted to help people.
		If you had a woman with a child who wanted to get well, was sick, the woman wants the child to get well, the child wants to get well, Education wants to help the child get well.
		Usually there's a sort of empathy between them that is conducive to a very good reading.
		And sometimes if somebody comes up and says, well, I'm looking for an oil well or a gold mine, and I'll give you a little bit of it if we find it, what's their purpose?
		It's a selfish purpose.
		They're not trying to help themselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I was just about to ask you about that, whether he had been approached in that manner, and whether he, in fact, even used what he had to, at times, enrich himself.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he tried to enrich himself.
		He didn't.
		In fact, when in the story, again, it happened before my time, but in Kentucky, he would be asked questions in some of the physical readings.
		Somebody at the end of the reading would say, well, now, who's going to win this horse race?
		What's going to happen to the stock market?
		And he would answer, much to the person's profit.
		But when he woke up, he wouldn't feel well.
		He would have headaches.
		He would feel noises.
		He just realized that something was wrong, and he couldn't figure out what it was.
		And when he found out what was happening, he got very mad.
		He backed up and moved his family from Hopkinsville to Selma, Alabama, where I was born, and just opened a photographic studio.
		Quit giving readings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So really over that exact issue.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Exact issue.
		And when my brother was burned with some flashlight powder, he began giving readings again.
		They gave a reading on him, and it was remarkable.
		The doctor said he was going to lose his sight, and they wanted to take out one eye to save the other, and they didn't have to.
		And it was one of the first uses of tannic acid for burns.
		And he then got well, and dad started giving readings again.
		But from then on, my mother was the one who conducted the readings and gave him the suggestion for him.
		It was someone he could trust that wouldn't stick in these questions about gold mines or oil wells or whatever.
		And he was able to continue successfully from then on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, is there anybody in today's world, in the modern world, that you would consider to be the equivalent of your father?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		He then went all over the world studying psychics and meeting them.
		And he never found one that was as accurate as Casey was over as long a period.
		There are many people in this country and all over the world that have varying degrees of psychic ability, but I don't know anyone who has the track record of Edgar Casey.
		I mean, he gave thousands of readings over a period of 20 or 30 years, and we have the records of them there.
		I mean, people can come down there.
		The library is open.
		It's free.
		You can come and look at the readings and look at the reports and see what he said.
		And we're not trying to hide anything.
		In fact, we're trying to make it available for use.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, Mr. Casey, still today, then, your father's power, where it came from, why he had it, we know how he used it, but all the rest, we don't know any more today than we did the day he did the first reading.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		That's probably true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Edgar Casey.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		And, Mr. Casey, it's truly a great honor.
		I have a deep amount of respect for your father.
		I've read pretty much everything I can find on the man.
		I would suggest that everybody visit your organization's website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, by the way, sir?
unidentified		East Coast, near Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Washington, D.C., all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Mr. Casey, there is a website, is that correct?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I believe there is.
unidentified		I don't have the points of it now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I think my caller does.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Caller?
unidentified		It's www.are-casey.
		That's C-A-Y-C-E dot com.
		And when I say dash, it's a hyphen.
		So it's A-R-E-K-C.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have anything?
unidentified		It really is terrific.
unidentified		I've spent a great deal of time in the researching.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll have a link up in minutes.
unidentified		Quick questions, real quick?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Let me just throw them out real quick.
unidentified		A, is it possible that Atlantis itself is buried beneath the sand at Giza, hence the pyramids, the Sphinx, and so on are actually the remnants above what may be the city beneath?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Secondly.
		I don't think so.
		He didn't say that.
		He said that Atlantis was located in the South Atlantic, that there were records of Atlantis buried in Egypt.
		In fact, he said there were some buried in three places in the world, some in South America, Yucatan, and some in Egypt and some under the ocean.
unidentified		With regards to his Rata previous life, which some people have interpreted as having been that Casey himself in the previous life placed the records in the hall of records, was there anything further on that?
unidentified		And interestingly, also, his suggestion that the Earth changes would culminate in 1998 has always struck me as suggesting perhaps that they would in effect kick in and culminate with the major release of that energy in 1998, which of course is today.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, again, he did mention 1998 as an important year, but again, he said the future is not fixed.
		You know, we can change it.
		I don't really know what's going to happen.
unidentified		Anything on alien civilizations?
		There's been some suggestion by finds on Mars, which have some relationship to Giza, that other previous civilizations, perhaps the Sumerians, were descended from the Anunnaki, a race from another planet.
		Was there ever anything as far as reincarnation from another species or any information about that at all?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		As far as I know, there are no references in the readings to aliens coming to Earth in the, you know, other civilizations.
		Dad did say there was life in the universe in myriad forms.
		Of course, there's lots of stars out there, lots of galaxies, and there's bound to be life of other kinds somewhere else.
		But he didn't mention any of them coming to Earth as far as I know.
unidentified		Well, thank you very much, sir.
unidentified		Once again, it's a Great honor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		And East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Edgar E. Casey.
		Good morning.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		Good morning.
		Yeah, I'm East of the Rockies in Art.
		My name is Elliott.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Casey.
		Good morning, Mr. Bell.
		I believe by telling you where I was from last time was the reason my call was disconnected.
		But we'll talk about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't disconnect people for geologic locations.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
unidentified		I'm not saying that you did.
unidentified		I'm saying that something else did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		MIBs.
		All right.
		Do you have a question?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
unidentified		I've heard from friends of mine who have a high-level position in the government that there will be a pole shift taking place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
unidentified		And it will be happening, and I was given a rough estimate around the year 2005.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		There are many who believe that, Mr. Casey.
		Did your father project or tell anybody when he thought the next pole shift might occur?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember any specific examples of that.
		He did say there might be changes in 1998 on up through 2000.
		He didn't say exactly what kind, and he didn't.
		I think they may be.
		I mean, I don't know.
		But here again, we can change that, even physical changes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, as you look around today's world and listen to today's news with anthrax and wars and social disruption and so much that has changed in our society, would you think your father to be pretty much on track with regard to predicted changes beginning in 1998?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is that the way the world looks to you?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the media plays up a lot of the exciting things or the bad things.
		There's a lot of good folks out there and a lot of good things happening other than anthrax and people trying to destroy the world.
		But we have, I know we have, I think, done a lot of things that we could do better.
		And hopefully people will change the attitude about things in the future and not get us into these situations that might lead to our own destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a hopeful man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Edgar Casey in not a lot of time.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		This is Steve from San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm going to talk to you, Mr. Casey.
		Quick preface.
		Your father's legacy followed me around for about five years as a teenager before I finally got around to reading the biography.
		But I wanted to know in the biography there, there are two paranormal experiences or powers that were mentioned for your father as a child.
		One was that he could put books for his schoolwork under his pillow and read them at night while he was asleep.
		And the other was that he had the sprite or pixie type of play friends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mr. Casey?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Of course, this was before my time, and these are stories I've heard that he could see people when he was a child that other people couldn't see.
		He had playbates that other people couldn't see.
		But he did have that experience of being able to memorize, by sleeping on a book, just memorizing the contents.
		And he did turn from a poor student into a very good student with that ability.
		Mr. Casey, again, this was before I was born, so I can't mystified.
		I understand that a lot of stories have been told about that, and I've heard dad tell it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Casey, do you have children?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do they have any abilities?
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		As far as I know, they do not.
		They have some good abilities, but they're not psychic.
		My son graduated from Duke as an electrical engineer.
		My daughter graduated from Ohio State in psychology.
		I major in B.S. in psychology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, what a pleasure it has been to have you on the program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it's getting mighty late back there.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess, boy, it's getting mighty early.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		It's about five minutes to four here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mr. Casey, I'm going to say thank you, and I hope one day I'll have an opportunity to interview you again.
		You're a class act.
		Thank you, sir.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Art, and I hope you got a copy of our book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I surely did.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope you get the chance to read it sometime and enjoy it, and I have enjoyed being on your program.
edgar cayce ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for having me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night, Mr. Casey.
		Good night.
		That's Edgar E. Casey from the High Desert.

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