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Dec. 10, 1997 - Art Bell
02:34:05
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Dannion Brinkley - NDEs
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Before putting Daniel on, as you know, as a talk show host, I try to remain objective in my interviews and in my relationships and in my belief system.
I try to remain objective.
That is to say, I try not to be an advocate.
However, the case of Daniel Brinkley is a little different because I have personal knowledge about Daniel.
Daniel, a lot of personal knowledge.
Maybe more than he would wish me to have.
But I have seen him do things that there is totally and completely no explanation for.
Physical and mental.
Daniel Brinkley is a gifted... I'm not even sure psychic is the right word.
He is a person gifted with, although you don't want the kind of gift, I guess, the way he got the gift, burdened with knowledge about other people.
And I would think it would be as much of a burden as a blessing.
He has used it, certainly in a blessed way, and has done work with people who are dying, because Daniel has died.
Daniel most recently once again Believe me when I tell you he was as close to death as you can get without being dead And not coming back But what I guess I want to say about Daniel is that I extend myself beyond the normal hopefully objective manner of interview by telling you that Daniel Brinkley is the real McCoy I repeat, uh, Danion Brinkley is the real McCoy.
And I guess I better also tell you that Danion Brinkley is now not on the line, something happened to him.
Anyway, I really want you to understand that, that, uh, Danion is a very special person, uh, in every way that you can imagine, and if there is an authentic Danion, uh, an authentic person A capable of the kinds of things that we have been talking about.
Precognition, knowledge of things that are about to come.
Then that, of course, is Daniel Brinkley.
So what I'm going to do is reach out and I'm going to run one more commercial so that I might get him back on the line again.
So, Daniel, if you would please, uh, hang tight.
We're about to call you back.
I don't know what happened to the phone connection, but I'm used to this sort of thing occurring.
Uh, we'll get him back on the line and in a moment, hopefully, if everything's okay, Daniel, are you by the light?
And I understand it is sold a million copies now.
And of course, his newest at peace in the light here is Daniel Brinkley, Daniel.
Art!
It's so good to hear your voice sounding human.
Oh, and it's so great to be able to do it.
I mean, you know, this last round has been a lesson teacher.
Danion, there are, I guess you have an announcement you would like to make, too.
Absolutely.
The first thing I'd like to do, Art, is for everybody out there who knows me and who helped me so much to this last Four or five months I wanted to say thank you.
I mean from the bottom of my heart because if it hadn't been for what you were doing and thinking and the prayers and the things that really spiritually mean what happens to us, all of it came for me to look at it and see and it once again saved my life.
So for those out there, the people of the night and those who know me through art, thanks from the bottom of my heart.
The other thing I'd like to tell people that if you didn't get your books, Because of what happened to me during this last experience and then what happened in the house.
Send me a postcard.
Post Office Box 1919.
Aiken, you have the address.
Send me a postcard and let me know.
That's, um, PO Box... 1919.
Aiken.
A-I-K-E-N.
South Carolina 29802.
There's about 75 or 80 people out there who don't have their books.
Okay.
And I can't find because of when they turned all the files over and everything that happened.
Someone came into my house while I was in the hospital and they turned every file over and my disc, they cracked them.
So I have no record of about, I know there's 75 people out there who don't have their books.
Alright, well I would imagine they would be listening, the majority of them this morning, so you'll get your postcards and you'll be able to finish that up.
And I'll be so happy, I won't know what to do because it's driving me crazy, Art.
You know, it just drives me crazy.
I wanted to get them out and it's like closing.
It's the way I can close the door on that part of the saga.
All right.
Please send me a postcard and thanks from the bottom of my heart, everybody.
All right.
And you indeed, the audience is going to hear about this latest saga.
But we are now on the air in those intervening months in many more places.
And there are many people who have never heard of you.
So we're going to try and do the Daniel 101 early years as quick as we can.
And I can help you with that.
You were not such a nice guy when you were young.
A born a complete jerk, raised in South Carolina.
I'm 47 years old.
I was born in 1950.
I grew up in South Carolina.
My whole early life had nothing to do with trying to understand the light or
anything to do with spirituality.
I was a fighter and mostly a jerk, jackass, and I thought intimidation was how you handled everything.
And one time you told me you were a killer.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it's that this country went through certain events.
That because of what we now call the secret governments or the covert world that we lived in that came out of the fifties, that a lot of us, there's a lot of Daniel Brinkley's out there who in what we thought to fit in this country.
Yes, sure.
I mean, I grew up in, uh, in the sixties and the seventies and I was in the Marine Corps.
And then after that, I worked all these projects.
So I'm the furthest thing from a person who looks at spirituality from any perspective.
Sure, you're an assassin.
Danion, do you think, before we move on, that there are still people doing Danion Brinkley early kind of work for our government?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Ongoing?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's under, I mean, there's a directive that I think George Bush, President Bush pushed through in the NSA that created and gave legitimacy to the fact that we have a covert army.
Most people don't know how to look for that or to see it, but it was legalized in probably 85.
I mean, it's there and there's absolutely that they're there and absolutely that this goes on.
And then virtually every major government that there is, No matter what the executive action is.
That's realistic.
That's the way the real world is.
Absolutely.
And yes, it's out there.
All right.
So that was you early on.
Pretty rough guy.
Just a, you know, jerk.
Yeah.
All right.
You got out of the military.
What kind of mental state were you in when you got out of the military?
Was it like, I've had enough, I'm not ever doing this again?
I mean, the military was just a short part of my life.
It just was a basic part of the training of what comes contracts, where you come to a person and you have a certain compartmentalized job, and what they do is they tell you that this is what you do, they pay you this much money, and you don't know all the rest of the stuff.
Some of the things were years before I knew what it was, but you just did your part.
I mean, I've seen, because I'm 47 years old and I was in that 20 years ago, almost 25 years ago, I can look now and see what it was I was doing that then I didn't know, and that's the way they do it.
Look at Eugene Hassenfuss is a typical example.
I mean, the guy that shot down in Nicaragua.
Right.
I have no problems with being able to identify with him what happens to him, what went on with him, and where he got left in the hole.
They let him sort of swing slowly in the breeze.
Oh, they sold him out.
What are you talking about?
We're like handy wipes.
You use once and throw away, and if you survive, you use you again.
But I loved it, Art.
My life was how fast that I could move and how quick and how I would think each thing through and what my particular job was whether it was the setup or I did the reconnaissance or I did some part in the chain by which to create the single action.
And it was a jazz.
They had me.
I was addicted to adrenaline.
And I was going through my life having a double life like a lot of us.
I'm not James Bond or anybody.
I'm just some jerk out there that grew up at this time and believed that power and might was represented in how tough you could be or how much you could destroy something.
And the whole mindset that we're taught, like in a military point of view or war, You're taught this and you get so caught up in it you never realize how really wrong so much of it is.
But that's where I was.
I would have stayed there and probably been there today.
I had a company and a business and I worked in this and it gave me access to things and this is the world I lived in.
Not any of this other stuff.
I thought this stuff was all crap.
Then one day I came home.
I was doing my reconnaissance job looking at infrastructure in a country and looking at how if you blow the infrastructure, which is the first thing that you do, you destroy the transportation, electrical, water and power.
So you create civil unrest, which creates diversion and chaos so that whatever plan
you intend to execute, it's executing within the framework of what appears to be as though
those people, indigenous to the place, are causing the problem.
And either you go in to help fix it or you use that as your cover.
Well that typical plan causes children to die and people to be shot and all kinds of
stuff like that, but you never think about that.
So I was coming back, for the first time in my life, I saw people.
Only two times in my whole life have I applied what I do to people that time and what happened
in this third experience that I just had.
But I was looking at these people and realized that they were human beings and they were people that were farmers and they had, you know, the grandchildren watched out for the kids.
He worked the cow or the horse and cut the blade, cut the ruts to put the flowers, I mean, to plant the corn.
And the wife came behind him planting it, two kids, a grandparent.
And this was supposed to be my enemy.
And I was coming back thinking about it.
I get home.
I worked in a grocery business.
There's no big deal about who Damien Brinkley is.
I worked in a grocery business with my family and I had these two lives and I was comfortable in it.
So in other words, at times you plan the destruction of infrastructure, which of course destroys people and that ultimately destroys governments.
Sure.
We do it all the time, big deal.
I mean, that's how I looked at it there.
We do it all the time.
And during the 60s, 50s, 60s, and 70s, because of the Cold War, I mean, there was a whole world of us created and then given legitimacy around 75 or 76.
Then came Iran-Contra, but before that, the NSA directive was put into place so that it gave legitimacy to it.
How do you think the Iran-Contra affair occurred?
So they were actually operating with just a free hand?
They still do.
Yeah, they still do.
I'm sure that's right.
All right.
Well, anyway, so that's the kind of guy you were.
Oh, yeah.
Then one day... No, not one day.
Three days after I got home.
And when you come home from being gone, in the grocery business, the most frightening word that exists is called perishable.
So when that word is the most terrifying word in existence and I come home and my part in
the family business has to do with produce and compressors and all that kind of stuff
and it was going out.
No one cares where I've been and what I've been doing.
I had to have that compressor fixed.
I had an absolutely wondrous wife who this lady had been calling on the phone that I
bought an antique car.
It was how I kept my mind comfortable.
I would fix a car and repair it and sell it, one old car at a time.
I had bought a car from a lady that I had to tear down the garage, tear the garage open to get it and take the car out.
I told her I would fix the door, and the guy I paid to fix the door didn't do it.
And I come home and I'm not saying that women are tough or bad or anything like that, but I can promise you they have a stare that can melt plaster off of a wall.
No question in my mind.
So I walk in the house to that glare of this lady calling them because the door wasn't fixed.
I had a compressor down and I had to get my reports written and submitted.
These are my days after I come back from this living the life.
She was so upset, so to, just before dinner, so that I could at least take some of the heat off, I was going to call him so that she could hear me talking to him and ask him why it hadn't been done and to get it done.
I'd never heard all this before, okay.
So now I understand why you were on the phone.
You got it, brother.
Okay.
So I take my, because she's watching the news and fixing dinner, I take myself down the hall And in the bedroom I pick the phone up and I call TM and I mean this is my life and it had nothing to do with but being a guy who lived in both worlds who watched it and maybe that was part of why me you know you're always trying to figure out why me or in those kinds of situations.
I pick the phone up and I'm talking to Tommy Everybody who knows me knows what happened then.
I got hit in the neck by a bolt of lightning.
This was all during a lightning storm, a severe lightning storm.
No, it wasn't there yet.
I only heard the raindrops.
When I heard the raindrops, I heard thunder way off in the distance and I told Tommy, I said, Tommy, let's get off this phone.
I'm not going to, you know, your mother always told you don't talk on the phone when it's thundering and lightning.
That's right.
And what happened was he made fun of that.
He said, hey, So what are you, a big tough guy?
A secret guy?
And you're afraid of thunder?
You know, and I'm poking my chest out like a game rooster.
Actually, let me tell you something.
I know a little bit about thunderstorms, Daniel.
And when the rain first begins, you are then under, directly under the area of electrical activity.
Now, you may have heard a thunderclap in the distance.
But believe me, once the rain began to fall, you were directly in the part of the storm where you could get a strike.
Great time to tell me, Art.
Well, that is true.
And listen, no crap, Sherlock.
Yeah, right.
Because at that moment, when that lightning struck me, I never knew any of this.
I didn't know it.
Where did the bolt actually hit you?
Do you know?
It hit me on the right left side of my neck just behind my ear.
Just behind your ear?
And it went in my ear and down my spine, welding the nails of the heels of the shoes to the floor, throwing me in the air and suspended me in the air.
And from that moment on... Let me get this straight.
Your shoes were welded to the floor, and then you were actually, apparently, then blown out of your shoes?
Mm-hmm.
I did it a lot of times, and what happened was that... So your shoes were sitting there welded to the floor, you were tossed up into the air, came down on the bed, and you were on fire?
No doubt in my mind.
All right.
We'll leave it right there at the bottom of the hour.
That's a good place to leave it.
We'll pick it up at that point.
My guest is Daniel Brinkley and what comes next you're not going to want to miss.
I hear a new detail that I somehow missed before or that you thought of.
Well I thank Art because we've done it and we're so close.
And I'm so close to the Art Bell family that my personal life and the things that I feel as I go through it, what I am is just as a person.
I feel more comfortable with talking about it.
I mean, most of the time, I tell a dramatic point as much as I can, but this is who I am.
I'm like everybody else.
There's no difference between me and anybody who's listening.
I'm a person of the night.
I love the Art Bell Show.
I'm trying to find the answers to things at being 47 years old, and I'm where everybody who's listening to you are, except that these things, there are certain things that happen to me.
That just gave me my perspective on it.
I'm no different.
And so I tell about what I'm going through as a person, because it's just us.
All right.
Here you are hit by lightning in the neck.
Here's where my saga began, Art.
The real story about me and what I believe is the point that brings a certain awareness to people is I never heard of the near-death experience.
I knew nothing about the kinds of things that are talked about on your show.
Nothing about it.
And how I learned about it was when that bolt of lightning came down the phone line and hit me in the neck.
If my shoes had not been, and I had nails in the bottoms of my shoes, bass wedges with the heels nailed on, not glued, and they were over the flooring, there was a carpet, and then there was flooring that was nailed down.
My shoes were sitting over those nails.
When that lightning went down my spine and through my body and came out the bottoms of my feet, it welded those nails to that floor.
And that's what grounded me out and kept me from exploding.
They figure about 180,000 volts.
Oh boy.
All of a sudden I'm blown like lightning, like someone stabs me in the back like an ice pick.
It throws me in the air.
It suspends me in the air and it slams me back down on the bed.
It didn't drop me, it slammed me and it bent the bed frame.
And I'm on fire and I'm burning and it's like battery acid and I have no consciousness except this pain.
And all of a sudden I'm in a blue-gray place.
And this begins a tradition.
Everybody who's heard it before and who hasn't heard it, this is a tradition now.
All of a sudden, I'm in this blue-gray place and I'm comfortable.
And I'm not burning and I'm safe.
And I all of a sudden become aware that I'm rolling over and I see myself lying across this bed.
And I had what we call now called a near-death experience.
And I was safe and I was comfortable and I was at peace.
Like 15 million other people who's had one have been resuscitated.
Yes.
And I watched what went on.
I watched my wife come down the hall and work on me.
I watched Tommy come over and him help her.
And I noticed these are common characteristics to me now since I've been through three of these in 22 years.
Somebody picked up the phone called 9-1-1 or the equivalent of.
Yes, that was Tommy.
He sent Andy to go Next door to call the people to call the paramedics and ambulances on the way.
They're probably rolling you to put out the fire Well, what happened was I didn't catch on fire.
It was as though I was drinking battery acid I was burning from the inside out and when that is occurring in the early part of it and in the early stages I didn't know what to think about it.
I didn't know what had happened to me.
I couldn't stop it.
I couldn't move.
I was paralyzed.
You know, I was dead for 28 minutes.
I was completely paralyzed for six days and partially paralyzed for seven months.
Dead for 28 minutes.
17 and 11.
That means no heartbeat, no brainwaves.
Nothing.
No breathing.
None of that.
Gone.
Gone.
Flat gone.
When I finally met you in person, How long ago was that when we first met, um, when you came to the house?
That was... How long ago?
Probably six or eight months.
Maybe even longer.
A year.
Yeah, maybe a year.
Uh, there's no hair on your body.
Well, I have little to no hair because when that lightning got me, it burnt most of that away.
It burned it away?
Mm-hmm.
And it's amazing that... It must have killed the roots, I guess, huh?
Well, it killed a lot of stuff.
You know, it did its share of killing.
So, without going drastically into your near-death experience, what you actually experienced, because we will get to that.
Dan, you ended up with a heart valve.
Oh, damn!
Aren't you really moving along?
I'm moving along because I want everybody to understand why, when we get to the current events, the events that just occurred, They need to understand what you were facing.
So, as a result of this lightning, something happened to your heart.
What physically occurred that caused you to have to get a heart valve?
Well, from being struck by lightning twice, in 1975 and in 1978.
I did damage to my heart, you know, lightening goes through your system and it damages a lot of stuff and it damaged my heart and my system, you know, my every part of me got damaged but it's centered on my heart and my vascular system and my nerves and so what happened was I had a first near-death experience and in the course of that near-death experience I came to a tunnel, came into a place of light, I experienced beams of light.
I watched my life pass before me, which is the single most important point of the whole near-death experience.
I watched me not only see everything I'd ever done, I literally watched it from a second person, and then I became every person and felt the direct result of my interaction between me and those persons.
Which I believe is the most significant and most important part for people to look at from the near-death experience.
In other words, you are going to live your life as you affected others.
You're going to feel what they felt.
No doubt about it.
And how do I know this?
I've had three of these things.
I'm the veteran of three near-death experiences.
And the last one was just three months ago.
And this is the first show I'm doing since I got up because I wanted to tell Art Bell's people.
Hey guys you don't die.
Now there's some really hard parts in it but the key is how to avoid those and how to get the most out of the knowledge that comes back from the near-death experience and that's why I wanted to come on tonight and that's why I want to tell people that the conclusions that we'll do later on in the show and the stuff that we'll talk about guys where I got it from.
was given my life from being struck by lightning and paralyzed and learning to walk and feed myself.
Second...
How long, Daniel, after the first strike, were you in rehab?
About two years.
Two years?
I had to learn to walk and feed myself and think again.
All I had was this vision.
All I had was these things that had happened to me when I was supposed to be dead that no one ever told me about that I lived with for almost ten months with no one to talk to about it.
I met Raymond Moody and all of a sudden I was suspicious of him.
But he began to give me a confidence that about the near-death experience because he
had interviewed a couple of hundred people then and I was just another case study and
we became friends and I got to explore the near-death experience from every aspect.
But I went eight years from 1975 to 1989.
I went 14 years before I had a second near-death experience, which is the heart valve that you're talking about.
Before we get to that, and I did jump ahead to that, Daniel, when you were gone, when you were dead, when you were out of your body, where were you?
Well, in the early parts of being out of my body, I was in the room.
I traveled and watched my body.
I watched them work on it.
I watched the paramedics come.
I knew all the conversation that had gone on.
And I was particularly amazed by it.
I was floating above it or I was behind it or beside my body most of the time on the way to the hospital.
And then I became aware of the fact when he said he's gone, I began to move to a tunnel.
And I believe that We are multidimensional beings and I've learned so much about it but in those early days I didn't know where it was.
Sure.
But we live in this dimension and at the time when our particular job and task is done We enter a state or transitional nature that we call death where the body shuts down and frees the spiritual and ethereal body and then you return to where you came from and you move on to go to be to cities and crystal cities and cities of lights or levels of consciousness where you go and look back through the information, see your relatives.
Can you remember, Daniel, can you remember during that period of time whether you had As you and I now have it, you sound good and awake and conscious right now.
You're conscious and thinking and aware of things that are around you and what's happening to you.
Right.
Were you in that state or a different state?
Well, multiply what you're describing right now by a hundred billion.
That's the state you're in.
A kind of super consciousness.
More than super consciousness.
You can merge with a thought.
You don't have to think it.
You can merge with it and re-experience it in any level, in any way you want to do it.
Part of what this third near-death experience was and what happened, what we'll talk about
is how I was able, because people from this show caring about me sent their prayers to
me that gave me a level of energy that while I was going through this near-death experience,
I entered whole new different levels.
Whole new places I never knew existed and never thought that could exist.
Although I went through a lot of pain and bore holes in my head and the stuff that we'll
talk about, I learned that the power of collective consciousness or prayer for true reason and
purpose, we can change anything.
Because the levels that I could go to, whereas I've never been to them before through two
other near-death experiences.
I've never been through them until I got to this one.
So tonight it's about, hey guys, the near-death experience is the way to start stabilizing your life.
It's a way that you don't have to die or be afraid to go find out what happens, how it works, and if you can start from being dead and move back to where you are right now, you can not only change your life in the course of your life, you can take control of that life, and be able to be in a place to help other people who are
not as confident or who didn't take the opportunity to go seek this information.
I mean I'm a guy and I'm no Swami or guru or anything but I've been through three near
death experiences and each one of them has a uniqueness to it but it has a commonality
to it.
Well, Danny and I have talked to a number of people, interviewed a number of people
in recent weeks who have talked to me about precognition, telekinesis, the various powers
that appear to be in all of us but only turned or in effect switched on in some very few
Some people believe you can develop these powers if you know how to do it, but in your case there are some naturals out there who appear to be born with Psychic abilities.
There's no question about what you can do.
I've seen it demonstrated.
I'm a believer and I don't frequently make a statement like that, but apparently something happened to your brain when you were hit by lightning.
Absolutely.
I never... Art, I'm like you.
Remember, I'm like you.
I'm a very... I study things and I'm trying to understand whether people have this ability within them.
I have no doubt.
Because when I got struck by lightning, I never heard of it, never thought of it, and I had pretty good instincts about survival and things like that, but not like what I have now and what I've gained and grown and learned about being perceptive about things.
Well, we're told we only use about 10% of our brain.
Well, I don't even know how you measure that.
Well, they do.
They do.
They measure it.
We use about 10% of our brain, and a lot of people theorize, Daniel, that An event like you had opens a pathway that was not open before.
We are electrical beings.
Absolutely.
Electrical, chemical.
I believe without any question that that not only is possible and that we all possess this mechanism.
To use, because it's inherent in us.
I didn't gain something supernatural.
This opened up by either an overload of my electrical chemical system, which did destroy my heart, so that had to have happened.
And the fact that I'm not afraid of dying, because I've had a near-death experience at that point, gave me a certain confidence that we continue on, which really allows people to open up.
When you're not afraid of dying, Art, and all of us are terrified of it and we're taught
to be controlled by this, when you're not afraid of dying and you have a way to really
look at it and observe it from, which is what the near-death experience gives you if you
don't have one, and then if you have one, two, or three, you get in life-threatening
situations.
I didn't stump my toe.
I got struck by lightning, number one.
Number two, I had emergency open-heart surgery to take my heart out of my chest and put a
St. Jude's aortic valve.
And number three...
Let's stop there for a second.
You had open heart surgery to have a St.
Jude's valve put in.
What had happened?
One of your valves had failed?
No, that's because of the lightening.
It had weakened it.
It had weakened it.
And then I became, what happened after that, the weakness of the body, my immune system,
a staph infection.
And I got staph infection and it settled on the weakest part of my cardiovascular system
which was my heart and it ate the St. Jude's valve, it ate the aortic valve.
So I was drowning in my own blood.
I collapsed.
I mean I write about it in Saved by the Light and in Peace in the Light.
I collapsed in the emergency room.
And then the next thing was open heart surgery.
And that's how I had the second near death experience and come to the conclusion that
you don't die.
And there is a certain very stable situation and lie, not, you know, like pre-destiny, but a part that we each have greater control of our lives than we've ever been given credit by any mechanism, religions, institutions, or government.
And I went through open heart surgery and I struggled with that for a year and then I had to learn to live with Coumadin rat poison and to change my whole life again.
Slow up, slow up.
Coumadin rat poison.
Now this had to do with the heart valve.
In other words, once the heart valve was in you, your blood then had to be maintained at a certain... Anticoagulated rate.
Thinness, right?
Right.
Thinness.
They had to thin your blood.
Well, they have to put it to where it won't clot.
See, your blood has clotting capabilities, and that's a lot to do with what heart disease is and heart problems, and like where a lot of Americans are, I had to experience that so that I knew how to talk about love in the heart and the body.
I get really philosophical now, Art, because after this third one, there are things that I can just forget and really put into my life a focus and a place I don't have to wonder about it. I know after the third
time that's how it works.
Now, how can I best put this information out so that people can use it and grow from it in their everyday lives and not
have to die two or three times like the fool I am keeps having it too.
When you returned the first time you had psychic ability thrust upon you.
Absolutely.
And it was, I recall you saying this, and again it reinforces what a lot of my guests have said.
You said at the beginning, this psychic ability was so strong, such a burden, you heard, you could hear voices, you could hear people thinking.
You knew what was going on with everybody around you to the degree that you actually had to separate yourself from people.
Is that correct?
Well, absolutely.
It drove me crazy.
I mean, from a person that never believed any of it, never even had a framework to put it in what was going on, all of a sudden, one day I didn't believe it, the next day I was dead, and the day after that I became everything I never believed in.
I not only had to relearn who I was and where I was, I had to learn about this kind of stuff and find a way to believe in it.
Because it was happening to me, but with not all this fakery, the stuff that exists out in the world, that people have an awareness that there is spirituality and psychic ability, but it's shrouded in so much garbage.
I had to learn all that stuff, so all of us are capable.
Of being able to do this.
So it was like a cacophony of noise.
I mean, overwhelming for you then.
Well, yeah, the first was people's emotions.
The first thing you feel is the emotion.
And from that emotion, I now, and I would say movies.
Okay, now it's like a movie.
I will see a picture and then I just interpret what I see.
Like it's like going to the movies and seeing a preview of a movie.
Those five or six things they show before the feature.
I will see those.
In those early days, I would literally be the person.
I remember when these nurses were pushing me down in this tub of squirrel poo when I was paralyzed to try to find a way to get my motor senses in there so I could feel this hot water moving around me, trying to find a way that I could move during the therapy.
I could hear everything all the nurses at once were doing and thinking.
And these are four ladies, completely different, and I could hear it.
I could touch people when they would touch me, and thank God that's reduced.
You know, people say, I'm happy that as I got better and re-acclimated myself back into this structure of reality, it reduced.
It didn't, you know, it's gotten less instead of, I couldn't have stood the difference anymore.
Sure, so whatever it was that opened that pathway slowly as you healed, It began to close up, and even though you still have, uh, obvious, uh, verifiable abilities today, they're not what they were then, not that overwhelming.
Thank God.
Thank, well, no, I'm thanking the right person.
But, hey, there's a lot more to this story.
I know.
Boy, is there ever.
Alright, hold tight, Daniel, we're at the top of the... And this night, I am telling you things that I don't tell you other nights about other guests.
Very, very rarely do I do this.
Danion Brinkley is here and he's the real McCoy.
That comes not from hearsay.
That comes from personal experience.
He's the real McCoy.
Danion was struck by lightning.
We've told that story and tried to move through it as quickly as we could.
And then again struck by lightning.
In 1978 and had a heart attack, had a heart valve put in his heart.
While he was gone, many things were, and when I say gone, I mean gone, dead for 28 minutes.
Heart, brainwave, breathing, all gone.
And he was gone.
He'll talk about a bit about what he saw and more, and we'll bring you up to date with Danion in a moment.
Yes, sir.
All right.
I understand it.
Danion, so you had a heart valve put in, then you had to start taking this horrid little stuff called Coumadin, which is basically rat poison.
Well, it does two things, Art.
It keeps me alive, and it'll probably be what kills me.
So, you know, that's part of things that you really look at in your life.
Here is the thing that keeps me alive, and yet because of its corpse as a drug in your system
that you must take for the rest of your life.
Once that heart dials in, you take it or you die.
That's it. I mean, there's...
I lie in a bed with an IV in my arm and stay like that.
Push around one of those stroller things with an IV of heparin or sodium heparin or some other type of anticoagulant or thinner.
You have to do that fairly frequently anyway, don't you?
You have one of those little things you wheel around with an IV on it?
I go through that.
Some of the people close to me have told me some of the most bizarre stories about you and that IV.
You're so funny.
Anyway, so that is basically your condition since 1978.
Did they tell you the one about the one in the airport at Delta Airlines in Chicago?
No.
What happened?
I had to carry these I don't know how you got off on that Art, but I had to use IVs and I have to put in
Things like vancomycin that are antibiotics that are so powerful and I would have to travel and because I kept pushing myself, which was what got me what I just got, I kept pushing myself.
I would carry these bags, these one liter bags of vancomycin and I had to go in the bathroom because I had to put an IV in and I had to take this by measurement.
supposed to do it by machine but I'd use a stopwatch and work it off until I got the
drip right and then I would count the drips with the stopwatches and I would hang those
bags everywhere.
Well I knew I needed to get it in so I put an IV in both arms and hung the bags up in
the bathroom and we had to come to land and the woman, the little flight attendant was
knocking on the door and I opened it with an IV in each arm with these bags hanging
off of it.
Oh my God.
I mean the face was unbelievable and she just closed the door and went and sat down and
I had to finish it and I took them off and then I went out and explained it to her but
that face and then she just quietly and politely closed the door.
Oh my God.
I've heard stories of you tearing around the house, very driven, trying to get things done with this thing trailing behind you.
Oh, it used to be so aggravating.
I would pull it down the street because I have to do my stuff.
When you have a near-death experience, the first one, The first one is to this day the most amazing one to me because I brought back from it stuff that has now become the future.
Not only the perceptive nature, which is where you think you see the future, I see mostly the present.
of where that person is or what caused that person or that particular event to occur are
the two things I normally see because I focus on hospice work and I try to train these techniques.
And the CIA, in the foundation that I have called Compassion in Action, which you know
everything about the hospice work, we will train people to be able to be perceptive.
Basically, once you've died, you can explain to somebody what they are about to go through.
To go through and share the joy about what it's about.
Having three near-death experiences under really horrendous conditions and a lot of physical and mental anguish and pain, I guess, is the only way I've chosen to grow.
I mean, you have to hit me that hard, but everything I know about the spiritual nature of us and that we don't die, just like you were there this last time, I pay dearly to know what I tell people, and I'm not trying to make myself any more important than anybody, but... Daniel, do you remember Do you have a website address?
No.
You don't?
I'm going to move into the high-tech age after this last episode.
Do you have a website address?
No.
You don't?
I'm going to move into the high-tech age after this last episode.
But you know, Art, I have lived here for 22 years looking at something that happened that
started 22 years ago that went through two near-death experiences.
It went through another surgery where nothing happened.
It went through all the way to September 17th at 7.05 a.m.
and the surgery was at 12 o'clock to the damn same day, the same minute, the same place.
Now you're talking about this last September 17th.
Yeah, or Wednesday in a thunderstorm.
All right, well, we're going to get way ahead of ourselves.
There's some really good stuff, though, everybody.
Yeah, I know it's coming.
Good stuff to tell us.
I read you a little something before we went on the air tonight, Daniel.
And you said that's from... At Peace.
At Peace and Light.
And I want to read that, so just relax for a second, all right?
And we'll find out if this is accurate.
This was sent to me on the Internet.
It's entitled, The Final Visions of Daniel Brinkley.
At the very end came a thirteenth vision.
I don't know where it came from.
I didn't see a being of light bring it forward in a box, nor did I see one take it away.
The vision was, in many ways, the most important of all, because it summed up everything I had seen in the twelve boxes.
Through telepathy, I could hear a being say, if you follow what you have been taught and keep living the same way you have lived the last 30 years, all of this will surely be upon you.
If you change, you can avoid the coming war.
Scenes from a horrible World War accompanied this message.
Scenes from World War III came to life before me.
I was in a hundred places at once, from deserts to forests, and saw a world filled with fighting and chaos.
Somehow, it was clear that this was the final war.
An Armageddon, if you will.
It was caused by fear.
In one of the most puzzling visions of all, I saw an army of women in black robes and veils marching through a European city.
The fear these people are feeling is an unnecessary one, said the Being of Light, but it is a fear so great that humans will give up all freedoms in the name of safety.
I also saw scenes that were not of war, including many visions of natural disasters in parts of the world that had once been fertile with wheat, I saw parched deserts with furrowed fields that farmers had given up on.
In other parts of the world, torrential rainstorms had gouged out the earth, eating away topsoil and creating rivers of thick, dark mud.
People were starving in this vision.
They were begging for food on the streets, holding out bowls and cups and Even their hands in hopes that somebody or something would offer them a scrap to eat.
In some of the pictures, people had given up or were too weak to beg and were curled on the ground waiting for the gift of death.
I saw civil wars breaking out in Central and South America and the rise of socialist governments in all of these countries before the year 2000.
As these wars intensified, millions of refugees streamed across the U.S.
border, looking for a new life in North America.
Nothing we did could stop the immigrants.
They were driven by fear of death and loss of confidence in God.
I saw millions of people streaming north out of El Salvador and Nicaragua and more millions crossing the Rio Grande into Texas.
There were so many of them, That we had to line the border with troops and force them back across the river.
The Mexican economy was broken by these refugees and collapsed under the strain.
Is that accurate, Daniel?
And 21 years old, you're reading something, Art, and someone who's just done this, I mean, they've written it better than I wrote it in the book, whoever sent this to you, but you are reading a statement that is Literally 22 years old.
This program was for me to grow.
I had separated from my heart and my mind.
It was for me to grow and what I never anticipated because I'm always trying to figure this stuff out because it's happening to me.
I never anticipated so many people to come to my aid.
So much love to come to my aid.
I never could even think that.
Let's talk about how this began, this latest thing.
What happened, Daniel, and when?
Let's finish that.
Can we finish what you were reading for us?
Well, of course, that's the end of what I have here.
But yes, absolutely, go right ahead.
Well, it goes on to give us each of those statements, what you're reading now, the women's army.
This is something that's 22 years old.
I understand.
On the front cover of Time Magazine about three months ago, it had a woman's army of Iranian women training in Arak to attack.
Iran and these women were dressed in black Islamic and they were going to go fight the Iranian
government for the rights because of the what the Afghanistan's are going through right now and what's
happening to women there I saw an army of women in black robes and veils marching
through a European city They were on the cover
They were who they are was on the cover of Time magazine and now they will walk toward the Balkans
This is what I as I watch it this next place that'll happen is what's happening in the Balkans and what's happening
there right now and
Sarajevo and all of that that's gone nowhere It's festering.
It's a battle of religions.
And as each discovers more and more about what's going on in these trials, then there's the next trouble spot.
Oh, of course.
The moment we leave, Daniel, they're going to be back at killing each other.
And those, what we've been doing in a thousand years, but now those ladies are Muslim
and they will go fight for their sisters.
And that's a European city.
22 years ago, when this vision came in the first near-death experience,
I didn't have any idea what most of this stuff was, but I could remember it
because it would go over and over in my mind till it would drive me crazy.
So I started putting them down.
And I would write what I would see as the vision.
This is while I was in the near-death experience.
And after it was over, because I'd left a lie there, I could float back to it and keep remembering.
Well, I make people a layout of where we go to about 2004, because that's as long as I figured I would be here, because I don't exist in it.
Everything else, I have a way to not only see it, but discover how I fit into it or where I am in it.
So you think you know when you're going to die?
Oh, sure.
I mean, I pretty much go through a lot of stuff knowing what it's all about.
And sometimes I push myself too far and other times because I want to achieve what I want to achieve based on knowing I don't die and knowing I've had my panoramic life reviews and that I am without any question.
You do not die.
It does not happen and anybody who tells you that it does is a liar.
It just doesn't happen.
Then, to get that in the minds of everybody in my age group, and a little older than me, and maybe a little younger, but I just talk to my age group, because they're looking the same as I'm looking, and as I watched all this stuff happen, I have used it as a guideline for something that I saw when I was dead.
Nothing you were reading is newer than 22 years old, but it's come true, all the way down to the chip.
When I said this in 1975 and 76 and 77 and 78, everybody around me, when I listen to my dad, he makes faces at me because I'm like a broken record.
He's been hearing it for so many years.
This chip technology and how the brain would grow on a chip and the chip would be implanted and encode your information and they could control your moods.
Not they, but the system put it in place.
It's all coming true.
Yeah, I have copies of the reports on it.
But this is 22 years ago.
I know, and so it was written by you then, so nobody can contest that.
Oh, it couldn't, you know, there's no chance.
No, that's what's funny.
You know, there's a thousand people and more scraps of paper and the dates and what I, you know, I pile that stuff in all those boxes.
Daniel, that was so severe, what I read.
Is there anything that has occurred between then and now that has caused you to change your mind about the ultimate prophecies?
Yes.
And I knew it would come.
I mean, when I went through this last experience, and I don't want to get there quite yet, but when I went through this last experience, I discovered something.
I discovered something about myself.
I discovered something about the whole framework of what I'm trying to do and what we're all trying to do, but also a way to achieve it faster.
I mean, there's some really good stuff.
And I'm still growing in it, Art.
You know, I study it and think about it every day, because we talk so much and we're close friends.
Well, I'm close friends with everybody who's listening.
I'm just 47 years old and out here and growing in it.
But when you know you don't die, you've got to find something to do with your time.
Sure.
I think people who listen to Art Bell are doing that.
You know, that's what I think.
And so when you hit this place where you're growing, And it's because you're in immense pain and they're drilling holes in your head and you know having seizures but the seizure had its place too.
I mean it taught me and what I learned from it and how to look at myself is the most important aspects of what it is about.
But how I kept myself sane When I wanted it to go away through these 22 years, what the visions were, what I was told to do, the centers, hospice work, all these things I've said for those years, I have done them.
And it's witnessed, you know, you know, you talk to the people.
But this last time, I'm growing.
Give me back a freedom that I didn't think I had and they drill that hole on the exact same time and date.
And what does that tell me?
I mean, what would it tell me if it wasn't happening to me?
All right.
Well, in a sense, you're jumping ahead now.
So let us let us tell them the beginning.
Of what happened to you, in other words, this most recent event, don't don't go right to the 17th and the day of surgery, because I was there then.
When did it begin?
What happened?
Well, it began probably in 1989.
Well, I mean the specific medical downturn that resulted in the surgery.
What day did that begin?
Do you recall?
It probably began in June.
In June.
How do you figure it began?
Well, I could tell that something was changing.
Something was happening to me.
And we still don't know what it is yet.
What causes the Coumadin levels to shift and change, and Coumadin reacts to everything that you take, and no matter what it is, from an aspirin to the food that you eat, it's a good drug for what it does, but it's very finicky.
It comes with a price.
Oh, absolutely.
Big price.
It kills you.
Alright, Daniel, it kills you ultimately, that's right.
Alright, hold on, Daniel.
In South Carolina.
I'm sorry about that.
I was trying to put you in Georgia.
I know.
Daniel, I want to get the chronology of this right.
You think it began about in June, huh?
Yeah, I could tell that something was happening.
But, you know, I regulated.
Coumadin is not evil.
It's just that it is a peculiar and the fact that I don't just sit down every day, you know, and stay in one place and and Sure.
You know, just become worthless.
I have to move and I have to take care of things like I think, so I'm partly responsible for what it does, but there are things that happen because of Compton and whatever it is unique about me, which I'm learning is about being struck by lightning.
Which they have a new... You've got to test your blood, I think, how frequently and check for the levels of Coumadin.
Every couple of days.
Every couple of days, alright.
Every couple of days because it's gone up.
It's gone up back and forth, back and forth, and I've looked at everything in their study, and I have good doctors looking at it, but here I am.
I'm in California, had a lecture to do to talk about the CIA, which is Compassion in Action, the foundation I set up, and with a lot of help from a lot of people, and to lay it out, because I know that where we're about to go in the future What the next six or eight years are about based on that so far the stuff that I saw in the vision has been true so I'm going to accept the fact that the rest of it is and how to affect and change that.
All right so you were in California?
And I felt weak really really weak like I was going to pass out but after being after a heart attack and strokes I think so.
I was struck by lightning, you know, you just kind of overlook that kind of stuff.
Like my cardiologist asked me, he said, how in the world did you stand the pain when I
think I had a stroke or something like that and it was so painful?
I told him that when I fell and hit my head against the wall, it took my mind off of it.
So I have to go through that kind of stuff all the time.
And so I was at the Veterans Hospital, which is where I want to establish programs for
veterans because there's somebody I feel that I don't want anybody dying alone in this country.
And that, you know, the people who know me know that's my whole, that's what I care about.
That's what I focus on.
And I use every talent and every thought and everything I have to focus on that, because I can grow the fastest from it, based on that you have a panoramic life review and what I've learned through three near-death experiences.
And you can grow the fastest.
Sometimes I push it.
You push it a lot.
Hey, hey.
I know you do.
All right.
Anyway, listen, let's stick with the chronology here.
So I got on an airplane.
Yeah.
And I got on that airplane to fly home.
I had two days at home and I was making sure I was trying to get Art Bell Brooks out and keeping in my mind all the responsibilities that you try to piece together.
I'm trying to create a mind shift in people born between 1940 and 1964 as they face losing their moms and dads.
That mind perspective, that paradigm shift is to search for your spirituality so that you can deal with something that is now in your life.
The loss of your mom and dad and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles and how to take that and let it be a spiritual growth place, understanding the near-death experience.
And I try to do that through CIA and practical applications.
I know you do.
Stick with the story.
All right.
Don't hurt me.
Stick with the story.
Don't hurt me.
And so I fly home, and I had a cerebral subdural hematoma.
That means a blood vessel blew in my brain.
And then when that blood vessel blew in my brain, I thought somebody had driven an ice pick into my head.
Where were you when that happened?
I was at 35,000 feet.
Oh, God.
No, I didn't know that occurred in the airplane.
35,000 feet, and I thought, If I could get off that airplane, the pain at 35 in a pressurized cabin, you cannot.
I did not know that there was pain like that that could exist on the face of this earth, and I've been through a lot of pain, Art.
You know, I know about pain.
Nothing is like it, and you can't see, and your head hurts so bad you want to shoot yourself.
Did you remain conscious?
Well, I think I did.
You know, I just held on.
And I didn't know what it was and I got down and it released a little bit when I landed in Atlanta and I didn't want to get on that plane to save my life to fly to Augusta, but I had to do it because if I didn't do something about whatever this was, I couldn't stand it.
I couldn't stand it.
So I get home and I can stand up.
By the time I get to my house, I could stand up, you know, four minutes and then I just drop and blackout.
And the pain would be so severe and so I was trying to figure out either I knew something I either had an aneurysm or a hematoma or a tumor has just locked in and I knew it was one of those three things and then I knew it was something I'd blown blood vessel so I go to the I call the doctor and he says go get your PT's and I go up and get my... No, no, wait a minute.
PTs, everybody doesn't know what you're talking about.
Your PTs, that's the count you do, right?
Yeah, the PT is a blood test.
Right.
And it determines how fast per second your blood will clot.
And then it has a, called the IRN, which I don't really know what it stands for, but it's the line measure that you use based on the content of the blood.
Alright, so you got that test, you went and got the test.
And it was, when I got home I couldn't stand up and I was talking to my dad and because I was supposed to go to San Francisco for another program and I was talking to my dad and I couldn't stand up when I got back and I couldn't focus and I began to have chest pains and my head was hurting and when the doctor called me straight back and he said, you're as good as dead.
Yeah, I know.
I talked to the doctor, actually.
I was involved for several days.
I mean, they admitted you to the hospital with a diagnosis of an aneurysm at that point, didn't they?
Right.
They said it was, in other words, you had burst a blood vessel in your brain.
You were bleeding.
There was pressure building.
I recall talking to your doctor.
In other words, the blood You were just bleeding in the brain, and the blood was beginning to put pressure on your brain.
Well, on my way to the hospital, I blew a second one, remember?
Yeah.
Remember, I'd blown that first one coming in from San Francisco, and I couldn't take it.
And then on the way to Charleston, I put myself in those trances that I've learned to find with that much pain and I blew another one when I got to the by the time I got to the hospital so I had blood filling up the whole right side of my head and just crushing my brain and no one and no there is no pain like the brain
I never realized that it floats in that liquid and in between each layer of it there's a liquid and it stays stabilized and it's equilibrium and I'm just never, because my head's so hard and a lot of psychological and a lot of physical logical ways that I never thought about it.
But I was in so much pain when they got me to the emergency room.
I had a prothymic count of like 45, which is, you know, there is no coagulation and it's so thin.
It's like water.
Yeah.
It's not creating enough pressure to pump through it and since I had had an open heart surgery, the biggest problem that they were worried about is when you have this, your brain clots and when your brain clots, those clots move through the bloodstream and if they get into my valve, it kills me right off the bat.
I'm dead!
So how many clots are forming in my brain from these These hematomas and how much pressure.
They're a real rock in the hard place.
In other words, here you are bleeding to death in your own brain and they're having to clot.
They're having to stop that bleeding and the very stopping of the bleeding is causing clots.
And the way you stop bleeding is clotting the blood, which is what you can't do to mine because I have a mechanical heart valve.
Right.
So I'm in the emergency room and they're having a really, you know, what do you do?
Crack his skull open and you know these are the choices.
Crack his skull open and peel it back at the same time.
Crack his chest open and to massage his heart or to block clots or put a laser in to block the clots.
Actually your doctor at that point was telling me that he was going to open your chest and open it to your heart and then open your head, drain your head, watch for the clots to pass and when they did and they stopped your heart he would have your heart there Immediately available to try and move these clots through it manually.
Yep.
That was what you were facing.
Yeah, that's, you know, and what would happen if we did that?
I would die.
I mean you're not going to crack a guy's chest open and massage his heart and cut his skull away and drain off blood putting the pressure on it and then try to cauterize those other things and who knows what that was because at 45 and I was in deep trouble.
I mean you know that they didn't know what to do.
I remember I was calling you like every day and trying to talk to you when you were conscious and I kept asking Do you want me to come?
And you kept saying... No.
No.
A few days, no.
And then you said... Well... Maybe.
I knew where I was, Ark.
I mean, I was lying there in some more pain than I thought that was possible.
They're telling me that my brain is blowing blood vessels, not that it had, it's blowing them because I blew those too and my brain was just pouring blood.
They couldn't stop the bleeding because it would cause coagulation, which would cause clotting, which would kill me in my heart.
And they were dumping heparin in me and all kinds of thinners in me and that was holding me on.
But the pain of the brain and what was going on, I couldn't handle it.
Well, I'll tell you now because I can tell you now and I really haven't.
I was talking to people, of course, all around you.
I won't name them.
You know who they are.
And those people told me that you weren't going to make it, Daniel.
I don't think I was, Art.
That was a critical day.
You know the people I'm talking about.
Yeah, my dad, you know, I mean, all my relatives, my brothers, my sisters, my closest friends.
Yeah, I really wasn't going to... Well, I don't mind telling them.
We were all there.
I was talking to all those people, including the doctor and the nurses, and everybody was of the same opinion.
Your chances were pretty near zero, and that was the day you called me and said, Well, Art, you better come on over.
Don't be sad about it.
Well, Art, you and Ramona better come on over because I don't think I'm going to make it through this one.
Yeah, time to go.
I thought I was happy about it.
Because I couldn't stand it another day.
I had to have the surgery, which would all of a sudden start this chain of action of events.
And if something went wrong during the surgery having to crack my chest open so I called my dad and I got my closest friends of people that have been with me and helped me for years and struggle with me as I've gone through these near-death experiences and I've tried to do what I believe was right in the course of what I saw and here I was again being the people I'm trying most to help.
I was on a ward of Cardio Neuro Problems and this is where you need an emergency and intensive care which I spent about 16 days in there.
And then in this place where people were so, the despair was so enormous and I didn't have despair.
I just dealt with the pain and as you were there, you know, I, it was more pain than I could handle, but I can handle it because I'm not afraid of dying.
We don't die.
And I knew we didn't.
And I was thinking in my mind, here I go again, but this time the odds are stacked too much for me to survive it.
So you and I talked about opening up your chest.
Yeah, and we concluded very quickly we weren't going to do it!
I said, Daniel, I don't think you're going to make it through that.
Too much trauma.
I mean, the risk is obviously the clout's let go and they can't get to your heart in time and you're gone.
And it's a tough choice to make, but I advised you, you thought the same thing.
Yeah.
Don't do it.
Don't let them open your chest.
I would be dead now.
The critical moment came, the doctor said, all right, we'll try it.
We're going to drill some holes in his head.
We're going to relieve the pressure.
We're going to try to relieve the pressure and hope the clots don't let go.
Yeah, we'll put shunts in there.
Remember, they put those shunts in there so it would drain.
Yeah, we've got pictures.
That's what I said on the website.
People want to go up there right now.
It's the first item, Danion's photographs in the gallery.
Click on that and scroll down and then click on the photographs and you'll see Actually, the bags were the blood that was coming from these shunts that were put in his head.
These are true stories, everybody.
These three stories that we're telling, and I write about and say about a lot, and at Peace and the Light, and what I'm trying to do with the CIA, and what I care about the people on Art Bell, these are true stories.
Happens to a guy, not from India, happens to a guy from South Carolina, who you're talking to this morning.
What we're talking about is who we all are, Art.
What's happening to me doesn't make me unique.
Somehow, I'm stupid enough to put myself in a place where I have to learn it the hard way.
And second, I have an ability to remember what happened to me.
When I remember telling you and talking to you the night we virtually said goodbye, it was the night before the operation, I remember telling you, Daniel, you know, Cosmically, we're all here for just a little blink anyway.
And if I'm here for another 20 or 30 years and you go tomorrow morning, we're going to be seeing each other real quick anyhow.
Absolutely, Art.
And you know, I think that's what we're talking about to everybody tonight.
Hey, everybody, it doesn't happen.
And here comes the holidays, and here comes your New Year's resolutions, and here comes thinking back through your life as you do the Yuletide and Auld Lang Syne.
Well, Auld Lang Syne this.
Let this radio show and let this part that we're doing now be a part where your New
Year's resolution is to explore the fact that you do not die and stabilize the fact that
you are a mighty and powerful spiritual being and that you have the ability to move in multi-levels
of consciousness over on the other side.
But also discover that you live and function in multi-consciousness right now and resolve
yourself that that be your New Year's resolution.
And then I'll give the number to the CIA and call them to give you sent some information
and start really working on the use of what Art and I are talking about.
That's what I wish for everybody in this and the new year.
And thanks for letting me get that.
I remember that you were in so much pain that you told me one of two things has to happen now.
Either I have to die or this pressure has to be relieved.
There was no middle there was no middle ground.
I was making the decision on the surgery.
You and I was glad that you were there.
My dad Yeah, I had to do it all and what to do with my life and my little stuff I have and what I'd hoped for from the centers and fulfilling my visions and my work and all that stuff.
He was there.
It was really happening.
It's not a dime novel.
And it was good to have you there because you drew from the experience of everybody you have and you drew from a good friend, Art Bell, just like Ramona.
Ramona and being there helped me a lot.
All I could think of, all I could think of was to have people pray for you.
And Daniel, you know, you and I, we may, we may be a little different because I haven't been where you've been.
I haven't died.
I haven't seen all of this, and I must tell you, Danny, and I have this hard-headed, idiotic thing that things that I haven't experienced, I haven't touched, I can't prove, I can't know for 100%, with 100% surety.
I don't know these things that you know, but I think I believe, no, I know I believe, that There is power in prayer.
There is actually power in prayer.
Scientists are now proving it.
There's absolutely no doubt.
What I discovered, more than, I mean, anything that came from the near-death experience, yes, as we sat there that night, Art, and we talked it through as friends, because we've become good friends, you saw what I was going through.
I could not handle it.
I could not take it anymore.
It was too much.
And I had to face that surgery and face my heart and face those levels and what any of 15 factors could kill me and it could get worse.
And then the next morning, you know, when we we hugged and I had my family and my people, I care about it and help me around me.
And you know, I usually stay by myself when I'm that sick.
I don't let people come around me.
Oh, that is for sure.
In fact, we'll tell them more about it.
Danion, hold on for a second.
We're coming toward the top of the hour.
Rest a little bit.
This is something that I played during those times because I didn't think Danion was going to make it.
I really didn't.
But there was prayer.
There was hope that things would get better.
It's been a too long time with no peace of mind and I'm ready for the times to get better.
This is Crystal Gale and it seemed appropriate.
I've got to tell you I've been racking my brain Hoping to find a way out
I've had enough of this continual rain Changes are coming, no doubt
It's been all too long Strange year this year.
And what we're talking about now is one of the highlights, lowlights of the year, however you want to look at it.
Daniel knows a great deal more that has occurred to me during this year.
At any rate, there he was in intensive care, not conscious, and then you began to go through convulsions.
There's a big story to be told here, Daniel, that you haven't even really told me about the time, this time, when you were in the netherworld again.
And I'm still, I'm still processing it too, Art.
Remember that.
This is, we're only talking about September the 17th.
That was an interesting date, the date of the operation when the doctors finally decided they were going to do their thing, September 17th.
What is the interesting aspect of that date?
September the 17th on a Wednesday afternoon at 7.05 p.m.
I was struck by lightning.
On September the 17th, a Wednesday afternoon, 22 years later, I had brain surgery And at the exact spot on the left hand side of my head where the lightning went in and went through my body, they drilled a hole in my skull and hooked a drain to it.
And in my front temple they drilled another hole.
I don't honestly understand all of what it means, Art.
I had everybody do charts and stuff and it's some pretty remarkable stuff.
I mean you know you got a copy of that transparent of that astrological that reversed it.
I think that what it really means to me is that there was a real orderly fashion in the
completion of a period or an era and that symbolized it.
On the right hand side it was released because it made me change it.
If it's true, what shall we do?
The book that I'm writing, it changed everything about it, like literally threw the book out of the window and put a whole new place in, because just before I went into this surgery, for those early days, when we first started talking and people started praying for me, at night during these shows, During these shows, at night, the pressure would release.
It wouldn't be as intense, and I was noticing it.
I didn't know everybody was praying for me, Art.
I was lying in that bed where you knew I was, and had been there for 25 days, and 16 days in intensive care, and then, and then, and then, enough needles, and hadn't slept, and the pain was so horrendous, and my brain, and I couldn't see.
And I would listen to Stephen Halpern music for 10 hours a day, and I would wear those earplugs and stay inside and fight it, because I was drifting in levels of consciousness.
You're the only person I know who can heal.
Well, you really are the only person I know who can heal himself and he does that for
hours and hours and hours on end.
He somehow, can you explain it?
You go inside yourself.
You've got hemorrhaging in your brain and you leave yourself and how, is there a way
you can put to words the process you do to go to work on yourself?
Well, I'm working on, see I've never ever thought about teaching an art until now.
I mean, so I always just, I move inward, I pace my breath and I shut off so that I'm only hearing my breath move in and out of my body, like my body's a hollow vessel.
When you listen to your breath with your fingers in your ears, or you put away that you can listen to breathing like shielding.
I use eye pillows and things.
When you start to breathe in and out in the hollowness, like breathing all the way to your toes and breathing all the way out, you hear the hollowness of the body in the breath.
At least it sounds like that.
Then I begin a system where I set a value.
I can't deal with the pain.
I learned it in the first near-death experience.
being electrocuted is more painful. I thought it was the most painful thing I'd ever experienced
until this last one. So I will, they call it line and state and stuff like that. And
I take music therapy, aromatherapy, and color therapy. And I activate my spiritual senses,
the auric senses that we have.
And I never knew anybody had one of these until I was floating above myself watching Tommy and Sandy, 22 years before, work on me.
And they had these beautiful, colorful rays around them.
They were energy bodies.
And I was always wondering why I didn't have one as they were working on me, but that's the me that's here now.
That's the part, the spiritual part.
Is there a way you can, in other words, you had a specific terrible thing that was occurring to you.
You were bleeding in your brain.
Do you actually visualize what's occurring in your brain and go to work on that mentally?
Yeah, once I'm out of the body.
See, once I get out of the body, Then it can heal itself because I'm not in there thinking so much.
I don't have that mind-brain system working to like, you know, stress is caused by how you think and what you're eating.
And once you move outside of the body, it begins an automatic system of drawing from the spiritual realm, from the nutrition in your body, and from the thoughts.
And what I do is focus on the whole self.
Because I know there were long periods of time That you wouldn't let anybody near, and you just did that.
You were just inside yourself.
The nurses said it.
Your family said it.
The doctors said it.
Ten hours a day.
Ten hours a day, yeah.
And then six hours with earplugs.
And that's how I went for 28 days.
We are spiritual beings, Art.
There are ways at which to move totally outside of it that are not marvels or miracles to me.
It's preservation that caused me to develop the intuitive natures, the natures to move outside of the body, the natures to perceive and feel where other people are.
These things are possible for everybody to learn how to do it, and I wouldn't say it if that wasn't true.
And if I can do it, anybody can do it.
Trust me on it.
And they don't have to die to do it.
They just have to follow the system and it's the value.
The real reason, and I learned this from the panoramic life of you in the near-death experience, the real reason is the why you do what you do, not what you do, but why you do it that begins a measure of you and your focal point in this world.
And having to clarify, being able to clarify those allows you to open up and access those
other levels.
What can you tell us of the spiritual time that did occur during this last experience?
Well, way to watch in this surgery, I was experiencing these levels and I was writing
them down.
When I got out of through all of this, I could match when your peer groups and the Unity
Church and the people's organizations all over the world that were praying to keep me
alive.
And I never realized that.
I had worked so hard for so many years, Art, to bring these visions and this work that I write about in Saved and at Peace to fruition.
I had worked so hard, and I had lost where my mind connected to my heart, and I began to think too much about how I had to get it done, because we are now in that time that they talk about.
A whole new revolution of thought will come this year.
I mean it will come.
Something's pending.
Yeah, well you and I are part of trying to help bring it out in the cruise with visions.
There lies a secret and a part of so much connected with everything from China to the Yucatan to Egypt to the mounds in America.
Everything about the pyramids and you know That's important.
This will happen this year.
These things, we will begin to change no matter what, with what we will learn in the next year and a half about ourselves, about where we came from, what our true origins are, but it doesn't change our spiritual self and how to stabilize that, and this is coming.
When I had this, when he put me under, when they took me in the room, and I was talking to Mike, my surgeon, who's a friend, and you know, you were there, and he put me in, and everybody was worried about it.
The cardiologist was there, and everybody was worried about it, because how do you come through it if something happens and you break my skull open and you split my chest open, and I told them not to do it, but you know, they weren't going to listen to that too much.
And then they drill these holes and they put me this anesthesia and they drill these holes in my head and at the moment when they roll my head over, I'm out of my body.
I'm there.
I'm watching it again.
I'm listening to them talk and they were really good and really efficient and I was watching this guy who was helping Mike do the surgery how efficient he was at moving my head and rolling my shoulder and how organized they were how really well they were doing it and the two other assistants and I'm watching it but I'm in a in a level of consciousness That I am not like I'm far away like the first two.
I'm here and I'm not traveling far.
Okay?
Then as he drills this second hole, I began to move into places where I moved to the tunnel, but I became the light when the tunnel came to the end.
Instead of going to a light, it was like I was lighting it up.
I was comfortable with the place, but it had a warmness and a gentleness to it, but it wasn't like I was going to be there.
It wasn't like the first two times when I was going to be there, and I didn't move deep into it.
It wasn't a deep experience.
I saw the beings in the distance, and then I'm back, and I'm in the recovery room.
Dan, in some things, I remember when you were not really conscious and I was next to your bed with some others, one or two others, I think with Ramona and one other person, and you were talking about masters and you were talking about people in white robes.
Yeah, they were everywhere.
They didn't come back again.
See, there they were, like whole legions, and I'm watching it, and it was as though there was a certain amount of accomplishment or a certain amount of pride, and there was a certain distance traveled, you know, and as I'm glimpsing a panorama of the things that some of them I recognized but a lot of them I didn't
that had occurred.
And it was as though it was a brief moment of a celebration kind of, you know, I hate
to say, I don't know how to describe it yet Art.
I don't know how to describe it because I didn't ever, I don't remember seeing you on
any level.
I'm sure you don't.
Oh, you weren't conscious.
Okay, well, no, that doesn't mean I wasn't conscious.
Listen, in near-death experiences, you are conscious.
Not in the sense, yeah, I understand, but believe me, look folks, trust me, go up to my website and look at those photographs during that period of time.
He was not conscious.
Period.
But you were describing what I was seeing.
You were.
You were.
That's great.
See, I didn't know that, Art.
Thanks.
I mean, these things, because I'm aware of what was happening with me, not what people were seeing, and that was going on the whole time, and it wasn't like a normal near-death experience.
It was like a gathering of some kind.
We had assembled and we had taken a look at the distance traveled and where we stood and
what had to get done and what would be the next part.
I'm trying to write that down.
I'll bring that out.
I'll be able to tell it in a couple of...
You have to find words to piece that together because it's taken me years to find the language.
I know a lot of what it is.
Does that make sense?
I think you'll break it down when you get to it.
It's two months ago.
It's not a million years ago, it's two months ago.
But here's what was the neatest thing.
When I came back into recovery and after recovery and I looked at all this you know I was thinking about okay is this hallucination and I'm like everybody else I'm like you aren't regardless there are things that happen in the brain and chemistry and things that happen but I've been through so much I know how to set a standard so I can watch it and I'm watching this I know it's not a hallucination And as I come back and I recover and I'm in the room I could see a blue and silver light in the room and then it would turn golden and it wasn't some great dark color but I could see it in the room and I would think about it and look at it from different perspectives because the pain would reduce and as I would as I would relax and bathe in it each night as I would bathe in it
I would become aware that there was more than one of me.
Multidimensional.
That there is more than one of me functioning on different levels of consciousness as actively as I'm functioning here.
And I kept trying to figure out how could this happen?
The people's prayers are, while I was recovering and going through near-death experiences and always having a near-death experience and then going through what you saw me going through, you get yourself in a world of, you know, it's not a very It's a wondrous place but it gets complicated when you're trying to understand your spiritual emotional self and what you see with these massive beings of masters and great teachers and where a host had gathered and I was there gathering too.
It was though from the 22nd, I mean from September 17th at 7.05 p.m.
in Struck by the Lightning to September 17th And 1977, having brain surgery exactly where that lightning had entered my head, just on the opposite side, I had come to the gathering.
I had come to where we were looking at it, and I don't feel like I'm anything special in it, but I know that's what it was.
And the time now is set.
And as we look at the 30 years and the things that we were talking about earlier in the prediction, they're setting themselves rapidly.
All right.
They're setting themselves rapidly.
Your predictions were very dire.
I read them earlier.
Some of them are pretty good now, aren't they?
Not only have they come true, the majority of them have come true.
We're in the end stages, Daniel.
Look, you know the book I wrote.
Oh yeah, The Quickening.
It's terrific.
It covers what I'm describing.
Alright, there's a lot of news going on right now.
We've got I could run I could tick it off you know we've got right now in Hong Kong a species jump of a new deadly flu from birds to human beings and now transmissible apparently from humans to humans we've got
They had a big argument about frogs.
I'll probably get that for sure.
We had frogs, Daniel, with legs more than they had to have, eyes in their throats, horrible things.
Deformities.
People said, oh, it's not UV radiation.
Well, wrong.
Yes, it is.
New studies show it is.
We've got dolphins now coming down with deadly cancers.
We've got simple-celled organisms in the Antarctic beginning to show actual DNA change, which is really scary.
We've got the breakup of ice caps down there, entire ice flows that are breaking off.
We have a lot of environmental things going on.
We are moving toward an event we are moving toward something exciting
uh i don't know daniel oh art it's exciting i wouldn't have why i fought to come back why i just fought to come back
When you live 22 years, and no matter what it is, and you believe in something, and I believed in this, and a lot of times the only thing that I had to hang on was that stuff kept coming true.
It would keep coming true, and remember, I went four years before the first thing that I saw in that first ninth division ever come true.
I went four years.
It almost had gone away.
I said, well, it was just something that happened.
In four years it started coming true.
Well, these things are going to occur.
The earth changes.
We are affecting it somewhat, but she's growing the same way that we're growing.
What we have to look in our place is we chose to be here.
I know this, Art.
We choose to come here and we're chosen to come here and we come per breath.
We breathe in and we breathe out and there's so many techniques I've learned about breathing because I have observed what you are and who you are when you're not doing that.
And being a hospice volunteer for 19 years I've been around people dealing with the nature of the last breath and you know it's part of the training in the CIA and it's written about in both the books and I'll carry it even further in this next book because I learned about myself.
We are capable in our collective consciousness that this is the most important thing I learned And we call it prayer, contemplation, meditation, concentration, and prayer.
Prayer adds a divine spark to it.
But we are capable of collectively thinking for the love of someone or what they brought into our lives and changing it.
You believe we can stop it?
I believe so now because we kept me alive The love of eight, those people out there who prayed, who put their power, who put their times as they stand, where they're working, or... They can, if they apply that.
They did it, Art.
All right, Danion, hold on.
We're going to break here.
Bottom of the hour.
Danion Brinkley is my guest.
I'm Art Bell.
This is Coast to Coast Air.
Still have time.
Might still get by.
Every time I think about it I want to cry.
A few days ago on the program, Danian, I had somebody who called who said that he did progressive hypnotherapy, and that means simply taking people either forward or reverse in time.
And he had found that people were able to sign their name.
He would ask them to sign their name.
And in every case, they could, under hypnosis, progress forward, sign their name, until they got to the year 2004, and then all they could do was make the sign of a cross, and they could no longer sign their name, because according to them, they weren't there anymore.
Makes sense to me, son.
It does?
Sure!
Between right now, or between last year and to 2004, everything's going to happen.
I mean, the whole change is going to happen.
You look at Asia.
You look at where, I mean, the Mexicans.
Remember you were saying about people from Central and South America flooding across the borders?
Yes, sir.
And I said that 22 years ago.
Now they have armies shooting them.
I mean, as they herd sheep, and as they line the border with the military, and they reinforce the patrol, because millions of people are now coming across that border.
And it's going to get, it'll get even worse than that.
They're going to keep coming.
And it'll destabilize in Mexico, and the Central American countries will begin to destabilize.
It's just like what whoever wrote that piece was.
This is all happening.
But this is also the greatest time of enlightenment.
I don't focus on all that stuff.
Yes, it's coming, because I was going to go to Egypt.
You know how much I care about Egypt?
I do, yes.
And then over there, they're shooting us.
I know you have an orphanage, I believe.
Yeah, I support an orphanage there.
And in Peru, Vida, a very fine organization, if anyone's interested.
Vida's a very fine organization.
But I support because I want to learn and grow.
And too many of the predictions come true.
And through this power of prayer, See Art, this is the time everybody that's listening, what I learned from this last experience is we really are where we think we are.
We're great and powerful spiritual beings.
We're on a mission.
We're the best there is.
We have the potential and this world changes and it's changing because this is what it's supposed to do.
It's not anything focused on us.
It's growing, and the banking establishment, and we just took and created $68 billion to bail out the Pacific Rim countries, and another $60 billion to bail out Korea, and they're going to war with North Korea.
South Korea.
Yeah, South Korea and North Korea.
And that money was just created.
They just invented that money from nowhere to stabilize these countries.
Look where Tokyo is with 90% devaluation in real estate, and I write about it.
This is 22 years ago.
Yeah, here it is, just like as you see in the quicknet.
Well, here it is.
What do we do?
Do we run to the pie lands?
No.
If it's true, what shall we do?
You got it.
I mean, When I came back after that and I entered those levels I knew I was even greater than I even think that I could possibly be and it's learning about that now but it's really learning about applying all this stuff to everyday life out here among people going and looking for the same things that I'm looking for that I found them.
And at least a way that I can measure to see how it works and to watch the future and to be able to make a plan in these changing and wondrous times.
By the time 2004 gets here and I say that the round off product would be 2012 to 13.
I mean, that's what I wrote all this down, you know.
And I never knew about the Mayans.
I don't know anything about them in 1975, and I wouldn't care.
There were some Indians somewhere in Central America, and that's how I thought about that.
Then all of a sudden, it's the same timetable, except mine's maybe a little further than that.
Well, they're all similar.
Daniel, tomorrow night I'm going to interview Robert Ghostwolf, Native American.
Wonderful person.
Wonderful person, yes.
I interviewed recently Father Malachi Martin.
I've interviewed remote viewers.
I've interviewed Daniel Brinkley and people like him.
I've interviewed people from every discipline you can imagine, Daniel, and, you know, they all come at it from sort of a different perspective, but the story, in the end, is just about the same.
We're about to go through a big change now.
There's going to be fun.
There are some people, Daniel, who paint a very bleak, dark picture about what's going to occur with regard to earth changes and more, and there are others who take a more spiritual perspective on what's going to occur, and that's you.
But through this change, Daniel, there are going to be A lot of people who are going to pass.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And knowing that, because it's this time, then the more you know about death, the less you will fear it.
Precisely.
And I mean, that's my whole, you know, it's what I'm trying to do.
So whether it's somebody laying in bed listening to this tonight with a A fatal tumor or cancer or it's somebody looking ahead toward these changes.
The net effect is the same.
We're all going to die.
Oh, but we can do so much about it in between that time.
The power of prayer.
The first thing I'd like to say to everyone you just described, I love you very, very much.
And I know what you're going through.
I don't need to feel your pain, but I know what you're going through.
And we have an opportunity whether we have tumors or whether we're going to be washed away by a stream or a thunderstorm or a volcano or you know somebody setting off a nuclear weapon or something somebody brought in the food system from some country that kills us by the millions.
We have the power of collectively joining together certain times at certain places and putting our energy
Through what I call prayer because it gives it that whole quality
And we can focus on any issue and we can change it and I know that for sure because it saved my life
I believe it then I don't You know what, Daniel?
I don't understand it.
I believe in the power of prayer because it's real, because you can literally document it.
I mean, you actually can document it.
Like Larry Dossier has written two books, 435 Research Paradigms, but that never meant much to me until I'm lying in that bed, I come through that surgery, I'm experiencing this love.
It is keeping me alive and not only is it keeping me alive, it is allowing me to enter
more refined levels of consciousness and energies that I could see multidimensional natures
of myself, which was a past and future.
It was right then happening then.
I still don't understand it Art.
One of the most brilliant men that I know, Danyan, along with you, is a man named Dr.
Michio Kaku.
He's a physicist at New York City University and I interview him frequently.
He is probably the next Carl Sagan.
He's a man capable of explaining a very, very difficult scientific theory in words that, you know, all of us can understand.
And he believes firmly, without a doubt, In a multi-dimensional universe, many dimensions, ten or more dimensions in our universe, simultaneous timelines going on.
I can swear there's four.
I can't say there's ten, Art, but I can swear there's four of them.
Because the combination of what I was going through in my mental, physical self in the near death experience and drilling holes in my head, which are the two extremes, which really makes sense for a fool like me.
And then what's keeping me alive is rat poison.
Okay.
And then All of a sudden, by people who are giving me something that they believe I gave to them, a certain kind of love, whatever how great that is, what goes around comes around, saved my life, but it expanded my consciousness by letting me see at least these four other worlds.
I know they exist.
It begins to help explain so much stuff that creates stress, like... It does.
Oh, God!
Do you think, Daniel, that you understand the nature of them?
In other words, here we are, racing toward this event in this present timeline that we're all living in.
A series of events, not... I don't... Alright, even a series of events.
Racing toward whatever in the hell is going to happen.
Realization.
In this timeline, but is there some other dimension where something else is going on?
Is the timeline and event coming in this timeline inevitable?
Locked in?
And at the same time, is there a peaceful dimension elsewhere where all of this will not occur?
Absolutely.
And it all works through us.
It all works through us.
Don't pin me down to this, Art, but because I'm studying it.
Still trying to work it out yourself.
God, listen.
After I became aware of this place, and I haven't worked yet,
but there's four dimensions and it understands how it focuses in each level of consciousness that we're all
working in.
I mean, psychobabble in these early days.
Yeah.
Then think of this.
There's a lot of people.
Let me interrupt.
There's a lot of people out there right now that will sit there and say, man, what a bunch of psychobabble.
I've been there.
And they're not listening all the way.
Or you know, I can even understand how they feel.
Me too!
That it's psychophobic.
I've been them!
But it's not.
I swear it's not, Art.
And not only that, I've been them.
I mean, hey guys, I've been that.
I am you.
But I have to look at it because it happened to me.
I have to look at it because it happened to me.
I didn't read any of these three things in a comic book.
I didn't watch it at the movies.
These things happened to me and cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And it has to benefit everybody that cared about me and that I care about them.
And through Art Bell Show is how I get to do that.
I love them and care about them because they saved my life and gave me a dimension, a way
to look that not only I can see it as I try to understand it, but I can figure out a way
to do something about it to intermingle those energies and change through love, through
prayer and us working and focusing on it and becoming aware of death because it's going
to happen around us in a lot of different ways and a lot of surprising ways to destabilize
our spiritual understanding of ourselves, then that must be put into place first and
foremost and the only way that you can do it and not be attached to some kind of dogma
is through the death experience, the near death experience.
It's not the only way, but it's one of the ways and to be able to change the whole paradigm
and move spirituality to mainstream where people in 1940 to 1964 and those a little
older than that we're losing people.
How do we do that?
How do we do that in a world so consumed with itself?
There's so much danger with so much going on around it.
People are so busy just trying to survive every day, getting to work, Daniel, making a living, trying to take care of their kids.
They barely have time to Consider any sort of spiritual anything.
To them, it's, you know, a million miles away.
Think about this, Art.
Let them get struck by lightning, let them have open heart surgery, and let them have a brain surgery.
And they better figure out how to find this time, Bubba.
There's got to be an easier way.
It is to look at understanding death.
Art, when When in the course, let's finish this story so I can back through it.
Alright.
We are only at the place where I'm out of surgery.
Where I come out of surgery, I'm struggling through these levels, I'm talking what you're hearing me say, and I don't know where I am to you, but I'm watching this gathering.
Then I come back after surgery, they put me in intensive care, and as I sit there for two days, I blow another one.
I had a third subdural hematoma, and it burst just above my eye in my frontal lobe, and 48, about 13 hours after that, I had a cerebral seizure.
You know, you remember that one?
Of course.
Hitting the walls and jerking tubes out of my head and watching all that stuff going on and not knowing where I was as I went from the most spiritual realm I had ever seen and a multi-dimensional psychology watching it.
And then I had a seizure, which you don't live through.
You don't live through them.
And each of those events, what I learned from the seizure, which is always, I've heard doctors describe what they thought the near-death experience was, frontal lobe seizure, temporal lobe seizure, oxygen brain deprivation, endorphin releases, peptide bonds breaking down, so much stuff.
I got to see, in the first part of the seizure, exactly what they were talking about.
That stuff that they're describing, alright, they're doing a pretty good job.
When they're looking at their understanding of chemistry and what happens because I saw in a seizure where you see the tunnel and you have a life review where you know your life passes before you because that stuff happens in a seizure.
It has nothing to do what happens in a near-death experience and then I went to 1969 and I wouldn't leave 1969 and because it was the place that my brain and myself took refuge and it overpowered my spiritual place.
I watched this and I was privy because so much love was coming to me from people's prayers.
The level at which I was surviving and observing the near death experience was so superior
to anything I had ever experienced.
That's why I tell people thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I know, I remember you calling day after day and saying, I can feel it.
I couldn't believe it, Art.
I was living it.
You know, there was all of a sudden so much other stuff from when I, and what it was doing
was it was us.
The people listening to this show and people that knew about me and that cared that I never
even, I couldn't deal with the fact that they cared that much.
That was so amazing to me, my God.
But the fact that as I was feeling it, nothing could tell me that that wasn't what it was.
I could experience and it had a depth to me and it had a It had a dimension to it and it would took a lot. It was a
lot of people I know that but my god look at the potential look what
happens when I can say that's who kept me alive That is what allowed me to explore levels. I'm still trying
to understand from the great gathering What when the world was all of that, but I know it's in me.
All right, Daniel. What is your current condition?
Well, I'm taking it a day at a time and as I take it a day at a time, I'm getting better
I'm having still problems with my blood, these severe headaches and trying to match the drugs and taking it really easy.
In other words, they're trying to find the right combination, level of drug for you to stabilize you.
And natural processes.
But even now, you're not really stable.
These blood counts of yours are jumping all over the place and they can't even begin to figure out why, can they?
We're trying and it's a lot of things going on and it creates headaches and really terrible swings.
I mean swings that can kill you and how my blood clots from one level to the other level but you know it's something transforming and maybe what's happening to me is a small scale part of what we're talking about that these events are to occur.
As I lay in that hospital art and I looked at that ceiling, I started thinking that here I am again looking up instead of looking down and maybe it was time for me to learn that perspective.
And I work on the CIA.
I want people to find this place that I hope I'm discovering.
And to find this place to deal with this, because if we deal with this, death and how it happens around us and sometimes the situations of which it will now occur because of these transitions, we must bring spirituality to center focus and being a veteran of three of these things, then having the seizure and then watching the levels of what we're capable of doing, I would miss this.
I wouldn't, you know, I fought hard to get back here.
You were there.
I fought hard to get back here, and it wasn't because I'm afraid of what's on the other side.
I was there.
That's a fact.
Daniel, that kind of catches us up to the present.
When we come back, I want to take some phone calls.
Absolutely.
Sounds like you're doing well this evening.
After you've gone through something like this, you have good and bad days.
And I think we've caught him on a good one.
That's lucky.
I'm Art Bell, and there it is, folks, the story of Danion Brinkley.
Again, Danion, a lot of people want to talk to you.
And I think we have... I hope it's not the yell at me about their books.
Yeah, while we're at it and before we begin, there are, you calculate, now there were thousands of books.
Oh yeah, thousands.
Thousands.
But you're calculating there are about 75 books.
I know there is out there and I don't know who you are.
That fell through the... No, it got turned out and knocked over and thrown out in the yard when they Turned over all the file cabinets, whatever they were looking for and plundering through.
They went through every box and every file cabinet and dumped the stuff out and broke the... You know, I just... I did it the best that I could after getting up and coming to clean all this stuff up that they just dumped out everything.
Alright, so if you're one of the people who ordered the books and didn't get it... Send me a postcard, please.
Send a postcard to Danion Brinkley.
P.O.
Box 1-9-1-9 in Aiken, that's A-I-K-E-N, Aiken, South Carolina, not Georgia, South Carolina, zip code 2-9-8-0-2.
And I can match it and make sure they get out, because I've gotten a few returns.
I mean, you're talking thousands and thousands and thousands of books, but it still drives me crazy because it's my word and All the things and the nice things that people have said as I've gone through this are so many of your listeners and the nice things that they say and the opportunities they give me I appreciate it and I want everybody to have their books because I think they're good.
I mean and I think they've set up a way that I can really in this next book is and just the stuff I'm learning about what's happening that I can just help people more and more.
I stay in healthcare because I know that medicine is better living through chemistry and that's where healthcare is going and the control of vitamins, you know, all my issues, the access to medical treatment, you know, maybe I'll get another chance when I know more about this to tell people, but Access to Medical Treatment Act and how I deal with those because I know if we can look at the near-death experience and use practical application of the things that you learn from it and use caring about each other in prayer, we can change it.
All right, Danion, here they come.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Danion Brinkley.
Good morning.
Hello.
Hello there.
I don't know where that caller is.
Now, let me see.
Am I doing something?
Oh, I see what I... No, I'm not... No, I don't see what I'm doing.
I can hear him, R. Uh, yeah, I know, but for some reason he's not going on the air.
Hold on here.
Let me try this again.
Um, are you there, caller?
Yeah, I... For some reason, uh, I guess you're on with Danion.
Danion can hear you, but for some reason you're not, uh... Let me put you back on hold and see if I can jog something here.
Something is, something is drastically wrong.
He's one of the, he's probably that ET that we had, uh, you were talking about in that tape that was interrogated.
Um, yeah, he's there, but doggone it, I can't hear him.
I don't understand this.
Let me try one of their lines.
What is your name?
No, hold on.
Oh, wildcard line, are you there?
Hello there?
Yeah, you're there too, but you're not going on the air.
Let me see.
Immediate diagnosis of what could be wrong.
Let's try it again.
Let's go back to this first caller.
Caller, are you there?
Hello?
Alright!
Got it!
Am I on?
You're on, yes.
Uh, well, thanks for taking my call, Mr. Jones.
Sorry for that difficulty.
Uh, switch in the wrong position here.
Can't get air.
No, never trust electronics.
Nothing more complicated than a knife and fork.
It wasn't them.
It was me.
Oh.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Uh, well, as far as earth changes are concerned, uh, you might want to check with, um...
The fellow up here, Jim Birkland, he's got some amazing news about the Mammoth Lakes area.
I'm very well aware of that.
I will get Jim Birkland on the air maybe as early as Friday, no later than next week.
There are some very disturbing things going on at Mammoth.
Yeah, a lot of Beijing radios might be needed here.
I hear you.
I like this guy.
Mr. Brinkley, I have to tell you I read your book and I was astonished.
It was as if I came out of a 20 year dream.
20 years ago I had my throat cut in a parking lot on the East Coast.
And I had a very, very strange experience.
It wasn't me that did it, was it?
There was a personality change very similar.
I was a 25-year-old ignorant thug at the time.
But I had a really astonishing experience and so much of what I didn't have anything quite as dramatic as you, but I did have that life review where I got through with Everybody I harmed felt.
And, uh, that was really horrifying.
I reached that moment of, uh, of, uh, real despair over, uh, over that one.
Been there, done that, brother.
Three times in a row.
Wow, I know.
I'm getting better, though.
Right.
The fear of death after that was gone, and it was, you know, freak accident that I, not, well, as we know, there are no accidents, really.
Lesson you chose to learn.
Right, right.
There was, uh, Quite a number of things, which I tried to talk about one time shortly afterwards with a professor of psychology, who went on to tell me about how the chemicals are released in the brain.
You just mentioned this on the air.
And I didn't talk about it again for many years.
I know those.
A lot of people I know the same way.
And then I read your book, and I said, this is just like an old, old dream that I remembered.
But a thing did happen, and that's the reason I wanted to talk to you.
I went through some of the stuff like being able to pick the next number to come up on the wheel.
That was kind of fun.
I was pretty good at that myself, but mostly I had to have things that were alive.
It had to be horses or dogs or animals.
Yeah, I read that.
My thing was wheels.
I never could pick numbers like that.
I lived for a summer.
I could pick wheels and I scared a few people with that.
I just remembered this when I read your book.
What happened was I kind of just dusted that whole thing off.
I had a major life change.
I got a degree and a license to practice physical therapy of all things.
Congratulations.
And I went on to, but I kind of just dropped that whole thing and went after the buck.
And a lot of the intuitive stuff that had happened just seemed to just fade away.
Yep.
Sounds exactly accurate so far.
I just wondered, You know, I've experimented in ways to try to regain that contact.
Find something that you get up for each day worth equal to that dollar.
I work hard, like everybody listening, but I also care about people dying alone.
I'm a hospice volunteer and I wake up every morning that no one will die alone as I put everything I do in
living and taking care of my health and we're trying to put my heart back together. I know it
works because I'm still alive. I know it works because I find a whole new reason and a whole new
system of perceptions when it's I'm I'm doing the same thing in my spiritual self as I'm doing in my physical self, and I'm using my mind and my heart to make the proper decisions and plan for each day.
So what you do is you start there.
A new discipline.
I've always tried to help people ever since.
The main thing that I got when I got my life review was The instructions are always be kind.
It's a good thing they didn't show that to me.
I'd be depressed all of the time.
What you learn from the near-death experience.
And constantly in violation.
But what the near-death experience teaches is just what you're talking about.
The near-death experience, when you have a panoramic life review, or you just study people's
panoramic life reviews, I was watching where James Redfield put a section in his new book
Celestine Vision about the panoramic life review as the most significant part of the
near-death experience.
Well, it is that, because when you hear people listen to how that works, that you not only see your life pass before you, you watch it like you're a friend of yours going through stuff that you can do nothing about, and you become every person.
then by being doing for the what appears to be being a good nice person like like I'll
say me doing hospice I know I'm going to be those people that I help. I know I'm going
to feel the joy of when I go in that room. It's like when you go to find something to
care about.
I choose hospice, and I support hospice, but you can be a big brother.
You can be a friend to people.
You can deliver meals on wheels.
Yeah.
I mean, and these are not something you're doing because you're a nice guy.
It's something that you can do that automatically sets in focus a system that you learn from the near-death experience, that is true, that you can start using, and it will work.
All right.
Well, I appreciate it, Cora.
Thank you.
Having a panoramic life review that includes feeling what others have felt from you is the most terrifying thing I could even imagine.
Well, I've run through it three times, Art.
Because I've hurt people.
I know I have, David.
Oh, God.
Me too, man.
In the first one, it was horrendous.
But you know something, Art?
Remember, It's only a part of a system.
There is a whole system.
It doesn't stop on one simple part.
You will review your life.
You will see the difference that you made.
I keep telling people you don't measure yourself by what you think about it.
If God couldn't come today, if the spiritual world or the greatness and the goodness and the gentleness and the kindness and the love, like a mother gives a child, you know, how sharks take care of children, I mean, how the whole nature of motherhood and that kind of love, if that can come into play and you have that, Then what happens is you really start to change it.
You're not afraid of having a panoramic life with you.
It's a part of the system.
Yeah, but you've had an experience that others haven't had in this life.
Well, I don't recommend they haven't.
I recommend them listening to me.
I understand, but even listening to you, this is going to occur when we pass.
Oh, absolutely.
I can't think of any greater judgment than that which you would pass upon yourself, feeling what you did to others.
You would be the one to pass judgment upon yourself.
Absolutely.
And you are horrendous to yourself.
I bet.
Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air with Dannion Brinkley.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, turn your radio off please.
Okay.
That's better.
Hello.
Hi, this is Stephanie from Brooklyn.
Hi, Stephanie.
Welcome.
Welcome yourself.
Are you listening to WABC?
Yep.
All right.
I just wanted to know how you're doing and hopefully you're doing better.
Better.
I mean, I have problems, you know, but considering where we started, Steph, I'm coming a long way and I've taken it easy which has been driving me crazy but I'm going to the doctor and I'll have a good day so like five decent you know from horrendous to decent and then I have two good days but you know you just do it a step at a time but I'm gonna be here.
Good because we need you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you Steph.
I want to ask one question.
Sure.
Will you be there next month on the cruise?
Um, well, alright.
It's not actually next month.
I think it's, uh... The cruise, let me, uh... We're doing two cru... Uh, yes, I'll be on that cruise.
On the 25th.
Yes, I'm going to be on it.
That's one I didn't even know about.
I snuck it in on Art because he chastises me for working.
He and Ramona beat me really, really bad.
I'm definitely going to be there and I'm taking the cruise just because you're there.
Well, I'm definitely going to be there and by then I will have even figured out more stuff.
Where are you going?
I am not telling you, Art.
I'll never hear the end of it.
Stephanie, where's he going?
Ramona.
Oh, God.
How could you do this to me, Steph?
And they really come after.
While we're on the subject of cruises, we've got one we're going to do together.
Oh, God.
May 10th through the 17th.
This is going to be a whiz banger because The wild man himself, Dr. Zahia Wass, the Director of Antiquities at Giza.
Yeah.
He's going to be there.
You'll be there.
Hancock, Raymond Hancock, Robert Boval, Dr. Ed Krupp, and I'm going to try and moderate this whole thing.
And I'm ordering my bulletproof vest.
You better.
But you know something, Art?
For once, for once, the ground rules will be laid out and verified and told to your
audience.
The ground rules for the coming and bringing this to a focus and to bring it to a perspective
and to look at ways to move from it in a constructive fashion will be laid down because of this
cruise and what each comes to talk about and you hold a really level place and you explore
it and here comes finally a chance.
I was proud how it came together and how we got a part of it.
I'm really proud of it.
And it's done in a way, like in Alaska, and it's done in a way where we can look at the vastness and the beauty of the world.
Yeah, maybe that'll quiet everybody down a little bit.
I can only hope.
It'll give us perspective.
Yeah, maybe.
Zahia Wass, Dr. Wass, called me from Cairo several times.
And Brow beat me until I said, all right.
I'm serious.
He really did.
He said, I'm not going.
If you don't do it, I'm not going to go.
Yeah, well, I'm glad you're doing it.
Anyway, we are going on that.
And anybody who wants to come along, it's 1-800-888-5509.
I forget to give that out.
It's 1-800-888-5509.
I forget to give that out.
It's 1-800-888-5509 or if you're in California, area code 310-568-0138.
I look forward to it.
It's a family on this boat, I mean, on this ship, and I can spend that time, and I like the cruises.
They're quality, and it's people yearning for it, and we get a chance to If all that Casey stuff is true, we get to help to define an era that determines consciousness changing.
Yeah, you know what Zahi says, though?
He says that's not a bit of it's true.
He said there has never been one artifact, one grain of sand to indicate that Atlantis was ever here.
Oh, is this going to be fun?
That's Zahi.
But you know what?
I believe what Zahi believes he believes is true.
I believe it, but I've seen too much and listened to too much for it not to come to a place where it can be explored and studied with given equal ground to all those places.
The truth is still going to be the truth, Art.
I hear you.
All right, stay right where you are.
We've got one last segment to do, and we're going to lay heavily into the phones from the high desert.
person somebody in Beaverton Oregon and of course I'm getting a gazillion faxes
and I'm just not gonna have an opportunity to read them all on the air
but this one hit the mark listen to this Daniel art I've heard you and Daniel ever since the first time he
was on your show one I've never heard you talk to anyone like you are tonight
with Daniel even earlier times with Danian himself too I've never heard Danian
laughs like he has tonight What am I hearing?
And I can answer that.
You're hearing, uh, Daniel Brinkley and Art Bell, um, after, after something has happened that changed both of them.
And, uh, you know, I went and I sat by Daniel's bed and said goodbye to him.
And we talked about, Many things that we need not repeat here.
But you're talking, you're listening to two people who know each other now in a way they did not know each other before.
And that's why it sounds different.
I know Daniel's secrets.
He knows mine.
I guess we know each other's deepest fears.
And so you're hearing a different, a deeper relationship or you're hearing the edges of it.
Is that a fair comment, Daniel?
Absolutely.
It's about loving each other.
Look, Art, here comes a whole new world.
We're hearing me laugh because I'm happy to be alive, but I'm happy to be alive because I'm living in the greatest times and moments, and I get a chance to make a difference from what I went through.
Again, they always change.
Those things change your whole life, and you're going through it with me and watching the ins and outs and the days because it was going to be an end.
I think that it can be possible for everybody who listens and pays attention and, I mean, they can be the same place.
And whoever this person is, I thank you very much for what you see and what you say.
Just very observant of them.
I mean, they're absolutely correct.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Danyan Brinkley.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
Good morning, Danyan.
Lucy?
Marcia in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
Good morning, Marcia.
Good morning.
I just wanted to comment, Daniel, that, number one, it is the greatest honor for me to speak to you.
I'm in the process of reading your book, A Peace in the Light.
Thank you very, very much.
I ran across it in the bookstore.
I recognized your name from Art Show.
I grabbed it, and my husband looked at me.
I said, there's no way I'm walking out of here without it.
Thanks.
You have really brought a lot of light to some of the things I've been going through for the last year and a half.
We're all entering that stage.
It's scary.
Yeah, but it's also wondrous to explore.
Look, you're not going to die.
Tell us that, and I can back it up with enough photos that Art has and enough stuff that at least I've been to the place where I'd have an option to look at it from.
Then how do we centralize spirituality?
I say good hospice work.
I mean, anybody can write me and put Compassion in Action or CIA and at the same address in Aiken and I'll make sure the information gets out to them.
But you have an opportunity to change this world and to change yourself.
So, hey!
That's what I've been working on for the last year and a half and Hearing you on our show and reading your books is a tremendous guidebook for me.
I tried to write them that way and you know Art Bell has a unique way of getting people at a comfortable place to where they can explore it.
I try to just tell the truth about what I've been through and try to help people with it, because I don't think they ought to go through it.
And yes, this is some pretty wild stuff, but what does it really mean if you don't die?
The freedoms that come with it and the learning about the panoramic life of you and being able to deal with losing our loved ones, but heaven's gaining them.
And what happens to us as a spiritual being gives us back our strength, gives us back control of our lives and then our health care and where the government's going and financial collapse like that gold commercial I just heard.
I'd recommend everybody ought to call and get that information whether they make a move or not they should get it.
Oh, I will.
Could I ask one question of you?
Oh, I'm sorry, yes.
spiritual self and that we designed a world that's going to change very rapidly just to
see how good we are and how fast we can hold to our spiritual self.
So keep that in mind and thanks for reading and make sure you get the next one.
Oh I will.
Could I ask one question of you?
Oh I'm sorry, yes.
If you had one quick piece of advice to give someone who is just being awakened or quickened,
pardon me Art, to all of the changes and all of the different dimensions around us, what
would that one piece of advice be as far as...
Listening to yourself.
Listening to yourself as you read it and what you feel about it and as you reinforce it
by listening to a lot of different perspectives from Art's to mine to other people.
Stay true to you.
People try to tell me I haven't had a near-death experience.
Well, let them drill holes in their heads.
People are trying to tell you that, you know, like I tell you, if you make a payment, you've got an opinion.
And other than that, it's just an opinion.
When you feel it and you read it, you find organizations and groups like Art's website, and I hope to soon have one.
I'm learning about that stuff where you can come find me and I can talk back and forth.
And what you do is stay true to you.
Yep, that really is.
Thank you, ma'am.
That's really good advice.
Now, almost everybody, no, maybe everybody, they have a voice.
They speak to themselves.
A lot of times they don't listen.
They don't take their own advice.
Yeah, I'm good at that.
Well, yeah, you are.
And if you stop and listen to your own advice, You're hardly ever going to go wrong.
You're just not going to go wrong.
Connect to the spiritual side of you.
You know, your advice and when you're thinking is one thing, but there's a spiritual side to you, and everybody has it, and just figuring out how we keep that and bring that into focus, because once you match those two sides, you're not only listening to yourself from what you've gathered as data, you're supporting yourself By the spiritual perspective of it.
I mean, that's how you do it.
I know that because I have found the three near-death experiences.
All right.
That's how it works.
First Time Caller Line, you're on the air with Daniel Brinkley and Art Bell.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi there.
Where are you?
I'm in Pueblo, Colorado.
All right.
And who are you?
My name is Kathy Denyon.
I've been following your story since the first time I heard of the first experience you had when you were struck by lightning.
So you like studying idiots.
I know.
I've done my own spiritual quest since 84.
And I haven't had to have a near-death experience to know that the soul never dies.
Thank God.
I know.
I love you so much.
Oh, thanks Kathy.
I bless you for what you do with terminal patients.
Are you still working with Dr. Moody?
Yes, we are.
Have you interviewed with him and working with him?
Will you submit so much to me as yours?
Well, I talk to Raymond on a regular basis and, you know, we explore some things together and we have differences of opinions and other things.
Of course.
He's like a brother to me and, yes, I've talked to him just, I think, yesterday or the day before.
Oh, I love his books, too.
He's just a great guy.
I think that hospice work, like what you're talking about, I mean, for people who don't know that, I've been a hospice volunteer for 19 years and I just had my 158th person.
When I talk about near-death experience and stuff, like you know, Kathy, I do this every day.
I don't live in some tower.
I'm in nursing homes, and I'm dealing with hospice programs, and this last lady was breast cancer, and it was pretty terrible, but helping her there, Because I'm going to be that person again, and I find the value of myself when I'm the difference that spirituality makes, when someone's scared of facing that other side.
I bless you for that, because you know, I'll tell you, my parents have both passed, and my dad, bizarrely enough, he was very pragmatic and linear logical person, but he got some very deep spiritual beliefs before he died, and he said, I swear to you, if there's any way I can tell you what happens, I will.
And he did.
It was a year and a half after he died, but I had a communication with him, and I know it was him.
66% of all widowers in surveys have some kind of contact.
I don't have any doubt that you can get back.
I know people like James Van Praagh and a guy, John, I can't think of John's last name, and George Anderson.
You know, I had James Von Praag on the program.
Oh, he's terrific.
And I just got a fax from somebody who said Von Praag was on Larry King last night.
Well, that's where he's supposed to be, except he did the Larry King.
I do so much fun, I can't wait to talk to him.
All right.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Danion Brinkley.
Hello.
Hello?
Hi.
Am I on?
Hello?
Yes, you are.
Where are you?
I'm in North Carolina.
Okay.
Daniel, I met... Your name?
My name is Archer.
Hi, Archer.
Hi, Daniel.
I met you two years ago in Wilmington.
At the Metaphysics Show?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I wanted to say... Do you like me?
Man, I still love you.
What are you talking about?
Thanks, Archer.
I prayed that you would live because we need you.
You're one of those people who did that to me, huh?
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
I mean, Archer, I came to a realization about the collective power of prayer.
You know, I thought of it as non-local energy and listening to what Larry says and how people make it so clinical.
I never realized the collective power of people who love each other and what they can direct that power toward.
Thanks for doing that.
There's no question about it.
I know also that the soul never dies.
and we live in other dimensions and multi-dimensionality.
Why didn't you tell me?
Well, I didn't realize it's only like I do now.
Oh, okay. Well, thanks a lot, Archer.
You know, if somebody would have told me, I wouldn't have believed it.
But, you know, I have to learn the way I learn.
I'm glad you learn it a lot easier.
Right. I'm working with a mutual friend of ours right now to learn more every day.
Who's that?
That's Reverend Kimberly Henry.
All right. And she is enlightening me every day.
I have learned a lot from you and your books, but I just wanted to say that... Thanks, Archer, because let me tell you something.
What I just went through has a lot of spiritual, mystical stuff to it.
It has a lot of pain and a lot of insecurities that I'd never have, but when something like this happens, you have to really face your life and look at whether I can walk up the stairs or sit down in the pain that I go through.
Maybe hearing from people that contributed to it and put a lot of prayer in there gives me a place to rebuild and refine myself.
That's why I like art shows.
Art shows are the shows where I can just be me and open my heart up and look at myself and share with it and know that I got brothers and sisters out there that are the people of the night doing the same thing and I feel free and open to talk about what I'm going through and hoping that it helps them.
I'd like to hear from you.
Danion, here we go.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
I'm Art Bell, he's Danion Brinkley.
Who are you?
I'm Kathy from Phoenix.
Hi, Kathy.
Hi, this is Ward, I'm in Connerick.
I knew I had to get home tonight.
I knew that if I called, I would get to speak to you.
Ah, don't you love these coincidences?
Yeah, and I want to thank you.
You've had a profound, what do you call it, on my life.
An effect?
Effect, yes.
And uh...
It wasn't bad, was it?
Oh no, it was, when I first heard you, I had a, I guess an empathic reaction.
And like the previous callers have said, I love you.
I love you.
And I prayed for you.
And I thank you for that.
And the hospice work, you are very important.
You have to take care of yourself and keep it up.
My father passed away.
Yes, yes, ma'am.
But I can tell you this, Kat, listen.
After the pain that I just went through, I can promise you I'm doing a lot better.
Okay.
And thanks for calling because it's nice to hear from us.
It's nice to hear from us.
And new things are coming.
New things.
New changes.
I'm just putting it in order.
So many new things have happened to me since 1965.
Had cancer of the brain and he died but we had hospice.
It's the greatest thing in the world.
I cannot say to anyone listening how much that got us through.
They let us know what to look for.
They gave us a list of the kinds of symptoms and without it I don't think we could have made it.
My sisters and I We'll forever be grateful to hospice.
It's time for you to become a volunteer now.
And I have the time.
You can find the time.
I have it.
Then go for it.
I mean write me at Compassion in Action here at 1919 in Aiken and I'll send you out a bunch of propaganda of what I'm trying to do and how I'm trying to put a mystical side and a spiritual side to the death experience to create closure in families because Once that's in place, that is what we now think is the most fearful thing, becomes the place that is the most stable, most loving, most supportive place for you to face what's coming in the future.
And I'm excited.
I'm excited to be back and to be alive and to have this opportunity.
And I thank everybody who, just like you, helped me.
Well, a couple of years ago, I don't know if I could have.
You know, bought into all of this.
Well, when they cut your heart out, if they'd have cut your heart out a couple of years ago, you would have.
I kind of lost my heart a couple years ago, but my father went through some experiences.
He saw a light.
He asked me if I could see the light.
He saw people that he had known.
He saw his father and his mother.
You can only listen to so many millions of testimonies like this before you've got to start believing.
You've got to start... Like osmosis, if nothing else.
Yeah.
Let me give your address again so I don't have to send it to a million people.
It's Danion Brinkley.
You're so wild.
Post Office Box 1919 in Aiken, A-I-K-E-N, South Carolina, 29802, right?
Yes, and just write CIA on the card.
Yeah, that's a... You want to tell everybody how you picked CIA?
I mean, Compassion in Action, you probably came up with the initials first, some of your old buds.
Yeah, friends of mine from a long time ago, just what we were talking about in the beginning of the show, it was a way to kind of Kind of geeked them back, but now the part that that's what everybody refers to as the CIA, but it was a lot of agencies that I just took that and did it in such a way that Compassion Action, the Twilight Brigade, and how it's set up is much formatted the way that that operation was in those days.
And it's done, you know, it's done overtly instead of covertly, but it's the same way.
And I figured that when you did something in honor to protect the country as great as this and in soldiers and in people in nursing homes, that if you did it the same way and you put love and love and a true honesty about what you say, instead of what our intelligence apparatus in the covert world that we now live in, It became an existence that maybe I could transform it and
I go to soldiers and my regular people.
So people, if they want to know more about it, write me and I'll pass that on and see
till it gets out.
And if you want to know what I'm doing and get the newsletter, okay, write me.
I will get it out and I will have it right, unless I die again and then I'll get behind.
But I'm sorry for those that I'm late.
Unless I die again, then I'll get behind.
I got to remember that sentence.
Unless I die again, I won't get by.
Oh, okay.
I thought you said, if I die again, then I'll get behind.
Oh no, Art.
I'm not letting you or anybody else off that easy.
I'm staying.
I'm staying.
There is too much.
I believe more in people and what we're here for and what we're capable of doing collectively
to find something we all pray about and change it and show the power of who we are because
we have love and understanding and this thing of fear of death so that we can make a decision.
See Art, I look at managed care and you know how fanatical I am about all of that.
I do.
I drive people crazy with it but I look at we must pay attention to in this next congressional
105th or 6th congress, whatever it is, they're going to take away our rights to vitamin supplements.
They're going to change everything that we got in the vitamin supplement.
Over my dead body.
Well over mine too but that's what people must watch for and they must listen to you
and they must research this out because for the freedoms that we have they must be taken
And I think the health care, because it exists from cradle to the grave, must be watched carefully and paid a lot of attention to.
And I do a lot of that.
And I put us in places like the CIA so people can be observant and also be of service.
All right, my friend.
You've done it.
Obviously, you are better.
You made it through four hours just like that.
It's gone.
Show's over and all that stuff.
You need to go back and rest, but you sure gave us your best, Daniel.
Thanks, Art, and I love everybody, and I thank them, and God bless Art Bell and Ramona and everybody that listens to this, and I'll be back, and I'll figure it all out.
Good night, my friend.
Good night.
Thanks, Art.
Take care.
That's Daniel Brinkley.
I'm Art Bell, and that's it from the windy high desert this night.
Tomorrow night, Robert Ghostwolf.
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