Robert Ghostwolf, a Lakota ceremonial leader, ties 94–97% accurate Native prophecies—validated by Mayan calendars, 1621 star maps, and NASA’s celestial data—to electromagnetic pole shifts, like the 32-degree shift over 2,000 years, linked to Regulus-Venus alignments (5 B.C., 28 A.D.) and El Niño’s "devil winds" causing 60–80% food price spikes. He warns of HAARP-triggered Pacific Rim earthquakes (3,200+ monthly), star people interventions, and Nibiru’s 3.5-day darkness as Earth resets into a "fifth world", urging spiritual unity over fear to navigate inevitable transformation. [Automatically generated summary]
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Then we will talk with Robert Ghostwolf.
Robert Ghostwolf is a Native American.
We'll have you tell him about himself.
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It's in the manuscript stage right now.
It's called Winds of Change.
And winds of change indeed are what are blowing across us, are they not?
But a couple of brief announcements, brief pieces of news that must be repeated.
One is, as I said earlier, I made friends with a guy in Buffalo, New York, cop in Buffalo, New York.
And he sent me a copy.
As you know, I used to be a 911 dispatcher.
He sent me a copy of the funniest 911 call I have ever heard in my whole life.
Now, unfortunately, this 911 call, because it is real life, is rough, and there is a lot of rough, bad language in it.
When you listen to it, you will understand why.
And I was faced with two choices.
One, I could broadcast it on the air and bleep out all the bad language.
But if I did that, 40% of the entire call would be gone.
So I didn't do that.
And I thought, I thought, and I thought, and a dim, roughly 15-watt light bulb went on over my head.
And I called Keith and said, hey, Keith, let's reduce it to real audio and put it on the website.
And he said, okay.
And I said, let's put lots of warnings up that there's bad language in it, but this thing is too funny not to hear.
I wish I could broadcast.
I wish, I wish, I wish.
But for those of you who have a computer or who can make your way to a computer, I'm telling you, go up to my website and listen to this 911 call from my police officer friend in Buffalo.
It is absolutely hilarious.
It made my day.
There's been a lot of tension around here lately, and it was a wonderful laugh.
So I really do encourage you, as long as you can handle the bad language in good humor, to go up and take a listen.
It is the first item on the news, the new section, and I think you'll enjoy it.
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Now, coming to us from the state of Washington out west here is Robert Ghostwolf.
Yeah, that was synchronicity at its greatest, wasn't it?
Yes, it was.
To receive that song.
A lot of people don't know when I got this ghost dance from Cusco, before I was even allowed to play it on the air, one day I called Robert and I said, Robert, you've got to hear this song.
And they wouldn't let me play it on the air, but I played it for Robert.
And what was it, Robert?
I don't know, a day or two or three later, you called me back and said, this thing has been haunting me.
I would say that you would listen to the Native Americans because they still hold the oldest existing ongoing knowledge on the planet.
And when we're saying Native Americans, when I say Native Americans, I also mean those who are in South America and Canada as well as just here in the United States.
What the information has to offer are not only very, very accurate prophecies, if you will, of what will occur, when it will occur, and how it will occur, but they also have solutions to how to go through them.
So I think that when you're listening to what the Native Americans have to say, you're listening to a message from the heart.
You're not necessarily listening to someone who's just coming in with information that can't be backed up.
One could say the same thing of some of the contemporary prophets.
And I think that that's part of what we're going to get into a little later with the project that I'm working on now with the elders.
And we call ourselves basically the Mountain Brotherhood because it's made up of many people from many tribes.
And the information that we got was answering that question as far as why is it that sometimes these prophecies don't seem to come to be when they're supposed to be or they happen later.
How come we'll get a prophecy that a comet's supposed to come and it hasn't come?
And it's all got to do with understanding what's going on now with time, with the nature of reality, with the shifting of the electromagnetic poles.
And that subject can be approached either metaphorically, metaphysically, or it can be explored through what I call left-brain scientific technology.
I try to do a little blend of both.
A lot of what I do has been backed up by things already happening.
I couldn't, and I wouldn't imagine that Native American prophecy would have understood our magnetic poles, would have understood anything at all about them.
And so what I surmise when you say there is prophecy about a pole shift is that somewhere in Native American memory, genetic memory, or real memory, there is some kind of proof that something that we now know as a pole shift occurred.
In other words, originally, obviously, they would not have been talking about the magnetic North and South Poles, but there would rather be some sort of evidence in the past to indicate what we now know as a pole shift happened.
Most of everything that's been projected in the Mayan calendar has been accurate to the tenth degree.
And so accurate was the Mayan calendar that it was used to create some of the programs that are put On computers now for NASA.
That's how accurate it was as far as telling time, dates, and events because they work with an overlay of four different calendars, telling time and the perception of time from different points of view based on the celestial patterns in the stars.
And it's extremely accurate.
We can also go to some of the writings like the Lakota star maps, which they transcribed on the buffalhides way back when.
This was information that was put on a buffalo hide in the year 1621.
And they have an accurate description of the heavens, the times, and the events, which tie into directly to the Great Pyramids.
They tie into Orion's belt and the relationship between the Great Pyramids and Orion's Belt.
They tie into the same configurations of construction of buildings and sites in Manchu Picchu, in Chitsanitsa, and the sites that the Lakota have in the Black Hills.
And it's an accurate map.
So if we're saying, do they have hard fact?
Yes, they do have hard fact.
They do have real fact.
Do they have messages, inspirations, things that happen in ceremony?
Yes, they do.
And it's probably arrived at from a different means than, say, Danny would get his information.
Sure.
But yet it's the same kind of accuracy.
I know.
And right now, I would put the weight on what the Native Americans say are going to happen, is going to happen rather than outside sources because there is no ulterior motive behind it.
They're simply saying we've been trying to tell you this for 25 years.
When you're talking about the pole shifts, the Lakota star maps directly relate to pole shifts.
And some of the information that we'll get into later, once I know they have this posted up on your site, which actually comes from NASA programs, is taken from those maps.
And it shows, without a question of a doubt, that we have gone through in the last 2,000 years a 32-degree pole shift, which is what you hear a lot of people on your show talking about, is supposed to happen as we go through the next shift.
A lot of the written records one would find in South America written upon the stones.
There's a lot of stones that are coming out right now that are kept in a library by a man named Dr. Crebara who has stones that tell of the history.
The Mayan writings tell about it.
There is a calendar stone in Mexico City, which has been called many things, from an Aztec wheel to a Mayan wheel.
It's actually a Toltec wheel.
And it tells about the sequences of time and events and the changes that would happen, which have happened, and they are accurate to the day as to when this would happen.
They talk about the experiences of the people with the degeneration of consciousness.
They talk about the coming of the European hundreds, thousands of years before they ever arrived.
They talked about the consequences of what would happen.
See, the difference perhaps in the way the Native Americans look at it is they look at everything as a living organism.
Everything's connected to everything.
The earth is a living organism.
She has her own consciousness.
She has her own plans.
She has her own dreams.
She has her own future.
She has her own needs that she must go through shifting.
In relationship to that, we work with her with those changes in relation to nature because nature responds to what's going on in the larger body.
And all told, I would say it's an organic perception.
It's realizing that we are responsible for everything that we do, and we're responsible for everything that happens, not from the point of guilt, from the point of clarity and understanding that in this time, as we go into what you could call the age of responsibility, the things that we're about to go through, the changes that we are about to go through, are basically due to our own dealings.
Well, plug-plug, I guess I wrote a book called The Quickening, you know that.
Look, thank you.
It deals with many, many things that are parallels here.
And if we look presently at our environment, Robert, we can point to Physteria that came out of the Northwest or the estuaries in North Carolina and is now in the North Sea, puts horrible little bleeding stores on fish and now is infecting human beings.
We can talk about changes in simple-celled organisms in the Antarctic, in DNA.
That's really scary stuff.
We can talk about the changes in weather.
We can talk about the changes in frauds.
And by the way, once again, I want my audience to know that even though there was controversy about it, now scientists have conclusively shown that this is because of the ozone problem.
I repeat, because of the ozone problem.
So we can talk about all of those things and a million more things with regard to the environment, Robert.
But when you and I talked, oh, I don't know, what was it, a few days ago when we set the program up?
Right.
You told me something that really stood my hair on end about hunting.
And somebody sent me a fact since why do you call him Native American?
And of course, the facts are really correct.
Robert Ghostwolf, like all Native Americans, is just an American.
However, so that my audience grasps the nature of what we're talking about, which is Native American prophecy and Native American tradition, I am being, I suppose, somewhat politically incorrect for simple identification.
So I'll consider that, but I really want you to understand who you're hearing from and what he represents.
He is mixed blood with some European, as a matter of fact.
So he can move reasonably between both worlds.
And they are different worlds, make no mistake about that.
And that would be, in quotes, our world, the European background world.
And he can talk to the elders of the tribes as well.
So it makes him a good liaison kind of person.
And for that reason and identification of what we're doing this night on this program, and no other, I refer to him as Native American.
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I've got something I want you to hear.
Somebody sent me this, and I want to thank them.
They must have gone to an awful lot of work to do it.
As a matter of fact, let me get his name here before I play it.
This was sent to me by, let me see, by Douglas Selsom of Huntingdon Beach, California.
These are people with too much time on their hands and obviously a lot of talent.
Pretty cute, huh?
That's it.
Thank you, Douglas.
That was very nice.
All right.
Now it's time to get serious again.
And this is really serious.
We were talking about the various environmental disasters that are obligating themselves about the planet right now, as outlined in my book.
And I was telling you, you know, when we were doing sort of a pre-show interview with Robert, he said, you won't believe what's going on out there right now, Art, with regard to hunting.
And it was the doghunted thing I ever heard.
Robert, you want to tell it to them roughly as you're telling it to me?
One guy shouted, an elk must have weighed 32 tons, you know.
But what's been going on there is, again, this is directly in line with the Hopi prophecy, which has got to do with the fact that they were out hunting, and they have a problem in Montana right now in that mountain lions are hunting the hunters.
We're not saying that they're coming across them in a field or there's an accidental encounter.
We're saying that they're actually stalking the hunters.
They've had three incidences in the last 30 days here last week.
But they had three incidences there where nobody was killed, but there were some attacks made.
Yes, we're talking about the hunters would be stalking an elk, and hunters work, you know, in patterns, going up a hill so they don't cross each other and wind up shooting each other.
And what would happen is they would go up and they would see behind the footprints of the hunter that was tracking the elk, they would see in the footprints of the hunter the footprints of a puma.
Now they've had a number of incidences even here in Spokane, where there was an incident a few weeks ago where a mountain lion was in a schoolyard and they had like automatic doors.
But what's happening now is, you know, again, if you go to the Hoki prophecy, they say that the animals will take on the characteristics of the humans, that they will take on the anger and the confusion of the humans, that they will start to become cannibalistic, that they will start to become aggressive.
And this is happening.
There's more and more.
The last time I was on a show, I think we talked about a coyote who went after her kids in Arizona.
These incidences are starting to happen more and more.
And it's that the animals of this earth have no place left to go.
I mean, there's like how much wilderness is left?
And there is no place.
They can no longer adapt because we're encroaching everywhere that we can.
And there is literally no place for them to go.
So there's only one thing that's going to happen.
They're going to come back.
And this is what's going on now.
Happening.
It's a global thing.
I mean, it's not just happening here.
This is an incident that happened here.
But it was quite the thing.
And what I'd like to talk to you about is based on the thousands of letters that I get from people who've heard us on the show, I think you have like a unique audience.
I don't think that there are people who don't know what's going on.
As a matter of fact, some of the people who have written to me have told me things, the experiences that they've had and things that they've encountered, UFO experiences and things like this that are much more impressive than some of the speakers that I'm with when I'm on lecture circuits.
I often wondered what would happen on a lecture circuit if we just had the people get up and ask questions and tell their stories.
But I'd like to get out some information tonight on what's going to happen.
Because I think a lot of people that I've heard, I don't listen to your show all the time because I can't stay up that late.
They picked up bleachers in the schoolyards and carried them across the football field.
And it's all part of what's in the prophecies of the seven thunders.
Now, the prophecies and the seven thunders art, I didn't speak about in my book Last Cry because I didn't know that the world would be ready for them, to be honest with you.
But as I started to write what was going to be originally just an addition to the book that people could plug into the website and get, and I realized that as I was compiling these seven thunders, it was all happening.
And so I don't think that there's a reason, basically, to hold back.
If you're of the like mind, that we should go ahead and let them know.
A few minutes, they're going to run over and let me know that my website is hooked up, and then I'll go on to that when we know that it's both hooked up.
I mean, when I sit inside a sweat lodge and we talk to grandfather and we ask him for advice about what's happening because of what we see, when I sit there and go up on the hill, like at the Ghost Dance, where I got a lot of these visions that I'll be talking about, and I was up there with seven pipe carriers from all different nations, and we were in the middle of Blackfoot Sacred Land.
And it's much like one would expect.
We sat there, we smoked the pipes, we asked the grandfathers for clarity, and suddenly the clouds got dark, and yet they were light around us.
We turned around and we released the spirits that were on the land because nothing had been done for them.
At that point, there must have been a thousand night hawks that flew over our heads, which obviously was the spirits of the souls that were there.
And they went off.
And so when I say ceremony, what I mean is ceremony, Native American ceremony.
A lot of what I have I get when I go into the kivas with the Hopi Sinem.
You take lava rocks and you put them in the pit inside the Inipi.
It's called the Inipi Lodge.
And we put them in.
We used 64 stones, and I think we came out like almost 7.5 hours, eight hours later.
And it gets hot.
And what it does is it pushes you out of your body.
It pushes you into your spiritual body.
And the construction of the sweat lodge is interesting for those students of sacred geometry because basically it's the same thing as the king's chamber in the pyramid.
So that you are not affected by the electromagnetic frequencies.
And you can move through time.
You can move through time.
You can actually go to a place and see it.
It's like you're in a dream, but you're not in a dream.
You can go back to when something happened, when we did it at the ghost dance, a lot of people had memories of the last ghost dance when they were on their way and they didn't make it, Edwin and me.
Some of them had memories of the ghost dance that they did with Vivoca.
We were doing round-the-clock lodges back then, so we must have done a couple of hundred lodges.
And in Indian 101, the first purpose of going to the lodge, you have four doors.
They call them four doors.
The first door, you purify yourself.
And you ask for things for yourself.
So that, you know, I need to get rid of my anger.
I need to be healthier.
I need to have my mind clear.
My body's sick.
Help me.
The second door, you pray for others.
You pray to send things for others, to help others, for people that you know they're in problems.
Then you go into the third door, and the third door is like the spirit door.
And the spirit door is when it opens up, and before you go into the lodge, you tie prayer ties, which are little pouches of cloth that are wrapped around, and we tie them on a long string.
Sometimes, usually in my lodges, we tie anywhere from 100 to 1,000 prayer ties.
And then we go in, and these are our prayers.
We say all of our prayers before we go in.
We ask our questions before we go in.
And we ask for things that we need to be released from us, whether it's illness, whether it's mental imbalance, whether it's problems in our lives, with the understanding that with everything that you release, you must ask for something to be replaced.
So if you get rid of anger, you ask for love.
If you get rid of a disease, you ask for prosperity and health.
It's done with full consciousness, not that you are at the mercy of the wind.
You're a leaf rolling in the wind.
And then when you go to the fourth door, the fourth door is when you thank the mother and you thank the homotakos and you thank all of our relations for everything that they gave.
And that's when it's completed.
And it takes a long time.
There is no time in the lodge.
It's a phenomenon.
I've had a lot of people come, scientists and senators, lawyers, doctors, you name it.
How are you certain in your own mind that you are not seeing what you have concocted in your own imagination, that you are seeing something truly different, separate from, Delineated from your own mind's imagination.
Well, or is it can you just it's a little bit like going up to an attorney You have to have a little bit of faith in what you're dealing with and realize that if you're if you're coming from your mind, if you're coming from your head, then your mind will play tricks on you.
And that's part of the initiation of that type of ceremony is that you going through the heat, going through the sweat, and it's not torturous, it's not painful.
And we're at the top of the hour here, so we'll break off and we'll jump back into this as we come back.
Robert Ghostwolf is my guest.
And I would warn those of you who are not ready for heavy information, it might be time to tune out.
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He's a native American of mixed, and he is here to bring a message that, frankly, from the way he sort of gave us a preamble here, I think it's going to be very soon of the sort I would warn you about.
And when I say that, I mean it no doubt will be disturbing information.
So if that bothers you, you might want to take this opportunity to out-tune.
That's right, tune out.
And have the children safely sequestered.
And while we're on that subject, there's a little something I've got here.
I mentioned it earlier, and I'm going to mention it one more time because it is the funniest thing that I think I've ever heard in my whole life.
A policeman, an officer in Buffalo, and I began an email communication.
He knew I was a 911 dispatcher, and he sent me the funniest 911 call that I have ever heard in my whole life.
I guess from Buffalo.
And there is so much bad language in it that there is no way it could be aired without destroying the integrity, the integrity, without destroying the riotous nature of the call itself.
It was integral to the reason it was funny, one of the reasons it was funny.
And this thing is, I'm telling you, you will, you know, in this day and age of bad news, and there's a lot of it, every now and then you've got to kick back and laugh a little bit, or you'll cry.
And this will cause you to kick back and laugh a lot.
So, since I can't play it on the air, what I've done is I've put it on the website with a great warning about the bad language.
It is in the real audio format, which means you can download it and save it if you want to.
Play it again and again.
It's worth playing again and again for your friends.
Or just simply listen to it on the website.
That's www.artbell.com.
And it is the first item in the new area.
So look for it.
Go up there right now and look for it.
I'm telling you, it is absolutely a riot.
I wish I could play it on the air, but it would just lose everything if you took language out.
That was funny.
That's item one.
Item two, before we get back to Robert Ghostwolf, is, as you know, I have a stupendous website.
And I think everybody out there should know that the relationship between this program and the website is sort of a semi-official one.
In other words, the network, nor myself, derive any income at all from the website.
And finally, it looks to me as though there's going to be proper recognition of it.
Our website, your website, the website, has been nominated for something called a Webby, which I understand is the equivalent of an Academy Award for websites.
And that's about all I know about it.
What's going on?
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised to see that also.
There's a magazine called Webb Magazine, and they have an annual Webbys Award, and they have 10, 12 categories of websites, and they pick the five best websites in the different categories and nominate them.
And they have an award ceremony in March of 98.
And we were chosen one of five in the radio category.
And I was surprised, you and me both.
And so I'm pretty proud of that.
And I just now tonight got around to getting the press release posted up on the page and listing all the categories.
And in addition to them voting and selecting a winner upcoming in March, they also have a People's Choice voting system where you can go up to the website and put your own vote in.
And that means they, so you've got all that up there now?
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Yep.
Just posted up there a few minutes ago.
It's another item in the new listing.
And people can read through the press release.
And the other thing is I have all of the websites that have been nominated all hot-linked so people can spend days and days looking through all the other wonderful websites that they've nominated.
But first of all, don't forget to go vote for ours first.
I don't think I want to have those words in the search engine.
Thank you very much.
That's right.
And I just want to thank you for all the wonderful material.
You're a wonderful talk show host and the guests like Robert tonight make the website very chock full of wonderful material and links to other places along the web.
And Robert, by the way, Robert Goswolf's website, if you will go to the site right now, and what do they do?
They scroll down to the guest area.
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We always, whatever the guests are on for tonight, if you just scroll down past the new items to these scheduled guests, I generally have a hot link on their names, take you over to their website.
And then a few days after the show, it'll get moved over to the daily summaries area and also on the previous guest page.
So you'll always be able to track them down after the show.
But for the night of the show or a couple days before, you can always hit it right there in the homepage.
Well, my friend, you absolutely deserve the award, and I hope every single soul listening will go up there and vote for us in the People's Choice Awards area.
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In the radio category, we're the only radio program that's been nominated.
The rest of the candidates are different software technology and audio nets even in our category, but I think we can beat them out.
So that's why you should be headed up to www.artbellallowercase.com.
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It's A-R-T-B-E-L-L.
So www.artb-E-L-L dot com.
And you can, now remember that 911 call, I'm telling you, be careful.
There's a lot of bad language there, but it has to be there for the impact of the call, let me put it that way.
Keep the kids away.
Also, keep the kids away from what's coming.
It's about to get very serious here.
We're talking with Robert Ghostwolf, and he's about to tell us what's coming in 1998.
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Tonight, Robert Ghostwolf, a Native American, and I specify that he's an American just like everybody else.
And for the facts or who complained about my calling him a Native American, I have done so so that you might simply understand the nature of the material that you're about to hear and where it comes from.
We talked about a sweat lodge, or we were certainly talking about a sweat lodge earlier.
Robert, are you there?
Yes.
Good.
A sweat lodge is a place where you go and for purification.
The thing that people have to understand about Native American ceremonies who don't participate in them or don't really know about them is that they are very old.
A lot of these ceremonies are over 30,000 years old.
And they have been carried that long, and they are not recreational.
I know that we live in the P.T. Barnum era where everybody wants to have an experience.
But these things are very serious, and they can have incredible results.
I mean, we've had incredible healings inside lodges.
I've had people who have gotten rid of brain tumors, people who have had hematomas move through their body and not go through their heart or their brain and simply come out into the stones.
Why don't I go into something, and when you can get it, you scroll down on a table of contents, and you go to Project Stargate, and then we can talk about that.
Well, I think that one of the important questions to address with people is something that we spoke about earlier, which is, well, how come Nostradamus has this prophecy and it doesn't happen exactly when he predicted it would happen?
Right.
How come whoever is coming up with the prophecy, and they don't happen exactly, whether it's Christian, whether it's Native American, whether it's Buddhist, whether it's prophecies basically now, as we look at them, are all sort of interrelating.
And they're all saying pretty much the same kind of message that we are headed toward a time of extreme change where reality is going to shift.
And we hear all different explanations about pole shifts and the electromagnetic planes reaching zero point and what's going to happen.
And I think if it's not understood, what happens is it can spread fear.
And it really is not something to be feared.
It's something to understand.
It's like when you hear a prophecy, and as I get into the seven thunders, some of those prophecies have already happened.
They were messages to let us know when we would enter the end times and that we would know they were the end times.
And when we say the end times, because I hear that phrase everywhere thrown around now.
It's like when we came out of the Atlantean time and we came into the next period of time, which most people would look at as Egypt.
Then from Egypt, we went to Greece, then to Rome.
As we went through these different consciousness shifts, this is more of what we're saying.
We're talking about at this time a major change, sort of what happened when we came from the time of the dinosaurs, the time of the Lemurians, and we moved into the present world, which is what the Indians call the fourth world.
And it's not the end of the earth.
The earth will not end.
The earth will go on.
But whether we choose to go on with it is the question.
And I think as I go through this, that'll become pretty clear what the choices are.
I believe Dannon was talking about we're going into multiple realities.
And our choices are which one of those realities do we choose to experience?
There is a world that's coming that will be not such a pretty picture where there will be a lot of war, there will be a lot of destruction.
There's a world coming with the basics.
just So everything is before his birth is considered D.C. After his birth, it's considered AD.
And scholars everywhere go through many disputes.
Even some of you Christian scholars will turn around and tell you that based on historical and astronomical observations, that we're talking about a five to seven year difference.
So when you're going through the prophecies and it says that something's going to happen in the year 2003, 2005, 2009, 2012, well, how can you gauge it if you don't know what year it is?
And this is how they judge where stars will be, what the patterns are, how they can send something once it gets there, where everything's going to be so they can map their talk station, AME00 KSTP.
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Robert, you're not going to believe this, but we have totally destroyed our website.
I'll get to the meat of it in the discussion, and later on they can look and call and ask questions.
All right, good.
But essentially, what we have there, if they and when they get there, is what they're going to see is the first two maps up on top.
These are, again, the Star Globe program.
Anybody can get that now.
And this is the same program that NASA uses.
And we worked off several points of reference, being that we have in Native American prophecy legends of this pale prophet who came and taught the people here and dates and times of his being here, where he was, when he was born, and when he would return.
Very similar to Christian prophecies, stories.
And what we did was we said, okay, we go into the Bible, let's take it right from the Bible because it correlates with what goes on in the Anca prophecies, the Mayan prophecies.
And when you go to the Bible, when you go to, I believe, Matthew, it talks about the birth of Jesus and Herod asking his wise men about the location of the star that the three wise men were following, what time it happened.
So the ancients were very clued into astronomy.
They gauged time by astronomy.
And they all had an understanding of this knowledge.
And they based it on stars because basically they had to base things that would happen on constants.
So for all intents and purposes, continents and mountains are still where they were 2,000 years ago.
They haven't moved yet.
Yet.
We're heading toward that.
And even the Kogi Indians down in Colombia, who are basically the oldest surviving intact civilization in the Western Hemisphere, have star maps.
We have star maps in Africa.
We have star maps in Australia.
So we took this information and we ran it through the program.
And we came up with the date of September 15th, 5 BC.
Because everything that correlates around the birth of Jesus talks about the star in the heavens.
So this was a sign that is throughout every culture.
5 B.C., at 3 a.m., what happens is we look up into the heavens, and we see something that has never happened before, hasn't happened since.
And we went all the way back with the maps, because you can go back as far as you want to go.
I don't know how they do that.
They must know something that we don't know as far as going to the future.
But when you go to the coordinates, what you see is in the stars coming from the north, you'll notice the first thing is that Polaris, the North Star, is not at the North Pole.
It's not there.
It's 32 degrees off.
Now, this is very important based on a lot of the information that's coming out now and a lot of the contemporary prophecies.
And when you deal with information such as Greg Braden presented on your show, we're talking about at the next shift, when we hit the shift into the millennium, when we hit 13 hertz on the electromagnetic frequency, we go into zero point.
Now, zero point is interesting, but what does it mean?
Where does it come from?
Why is it happening?
And what happens?
If we know that it happened before, that can help us.
Because then we know, okay, through this.
You know, when you're a prophecy art, it's like, well, where does it come from?
It's just something that somebody's saying.
It could be coming from anywhere.
But when you're backing up a property with hard facts, that presents something different.
It means you've got to look at everything again.
If you go to September 15th on the chart, and these maps, the actual maps, the actual maps that they use with NASA are up there with the coordinates, so people can check this out because I know we're going to have some astronomer buffs out there who are going to get into this.
And the thing is, if they go to, and they follow the coordinates on the map, and they go to their own version of the program where they can get a hold of us to get it, what happens is really amazing.
Because it happens at that time on September 15th at 3 a.m.
And it shows that the star Regulus and the star Venus, which would be the two pictures just below this, this is coming from the east because it says in the Bible that they looked to the east and they saw the star.
And the star was fixed and it stood over the manger where the child was.
So as we go there, what we see is that Regulus and Venus are perfectly aligned.
Perfectly aligned.
If you were looking at them, if you were standing on the earth and you were looking up at them, and we looked at the angle of 51.2 centimeters, which would be the same angle as the Great Pyramids.
And if you were looking up at the stars, you were two-legged standing on the earth, what you would see is one gigantic star because you would see both stars together.
Because we said, well, I know that there's theories that this was a UFO, but if it was a UFO, then how could the wise men have known months before and traveled by camel and donkey and everything else to get to this point?
And it shows, and there's stories in both the Bible and both the Native American legends about the prophet who basically you could say are one and the same.
That's a whole story in itself.
What we're saying is that he says, I am of the morning star.
Now the morning star is Venus.
And when you look at Regulus, it says in Webster's dictionary that Regulus is the diminutive of the little king.
So the three wise men come.
They come to Bethlehem.
There's the star.
And they're looking for the little king.
They're looking for the sign that they know.
And as we look at the star patterns, we say, okay, so this would correlate to all the information that we have, as fragmented as it is, but from all the sources globally, which is one of the great things about our age, and having the web when it does work.
Okay, so now we say, okay, so we have the birth, but we have to verify the birth.
How do we verify the birth?
Well, we go to the ascension.
When did he ascend?
And where did he ascend from?
So on the map, and both of these maps are side by side.
It says birth, and it says ascension.
They're side by side when you look at it.
On the ascension, we calculated March 28th, 28 AD at 2.15 p.m.
And when we put the star maps together, lo and behold, what happens is they perfectly align over each other.
Every star is the same except one.
Now, why would we do that?
Because in metaphysical understanding, in native understanding, in Inca understanding, we're saying when you come into this world, you come in on your star, and when you leave, you leave on your star.
Which is why when you see so many pictures of the wise men or the wise Indian chief saying, it's not yet my time.
They knew this knowledge intrinsically, like we know how to dial a telephone and tell by looking at a clock what time it is.
So they look up at the stars.
They know that their configuration on their birth date was not there.
It's not their time yet.
So they continue.
And it says in the Bible that Jesus said this many times to his disciples, it's not yet my time.
So he knew his time, meaning he would leave on his star pattern.
When we go to March 28th, 28 AD, at 2.15 p.m., like I said, every star is the same.
Now, this has never happened.
And we called up, I believe it was Mark Hanley who designed the program and said, you know, what are the chances of this happening?
And he said, about a zillion to one.
And some other things came across on the maps, and he said, well, that can't happen.
I said, well, what do you can't happen?
He said, well, it just can't happen.
I designed the program.
I said, well, you're looking at it in front of you, aren't you?
He says, yeah, but it can't happen.
But it is happening.
What we see on the second map is that on that date of March 28th, the only star that's different in the heavens is that Venus has ascended.
So that shows, based on the knowledge that would have depicted the time, the date, and the calendars back then when they did them, remember that when they did calendars back in Jerusalem, before we had our present calendar, It was based on the information that I'm giving you.
It was based on the knowledge that I'm giving you.
Well, based on the stars, the same way we navigate.
So they knew precise times and dates.
And if you're coming in on your star, you're coming in on the first page that shows September 15th, 5 BC, and then it shows that Venus is the only star that's different.
Out of the whole heaven, out of 10 billion stars, there's only one star that moves.
Now, if I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying that's what happened then?
Correct.
And it's going to happen again?
Yes.
And when it happens again, like the elders that know it is not their time to go, but do know when it is their time to go, when it happens again, I'm maybe making leaps I ought not to make here, but then it's our time to go.
They have a different name, depending upon where you're going.
Okay, so let's get controversial, and I'm not saying this to contest anybody's beliefs.
What I'm simply stating here is my beliefs and the beliefs of the Native American people as I've seen it.
And I suppose one of the best ways to do that is to give you something from the Incas, where it's said, and this is in the Mayan prophecies, Keitzal the prophet, who spoke to the people there at a city called Kulula.
And he spoke of the cycles of the dawn stars.
Remember that everything that they used prior to the calendar that we have now was based on the Venus calendar.
Our whole calendar in those years was based on that going back to Egypt and beyond.
And it says here that he says to the people, for five full cycles of the dawn star, the rule of the warlike strangers will grow into greater and greater orgies of destruction.
Hark well to all I have taught you and return not to the serpent and the sacrifices.
Their path will lead to the last destruction.
Know that the end will come in five full cycles of the dawn star.
For five is the difference between the Earth's number, which in the Native American mathematics is eight.
So that could be a number, it could be a frequency, and the dawn star, which is 13, which is the number of these children of destruction.
Now, this is supposedly classical.
It sure sounds like the same person I heard in the Bibles of King James.
And when we talk about the dawn star being 13, is it a coincidence that it happens to correlate to 13 Hertz, the Schuman theory about the electromagnetic plane when we go to zero point?
There's too many coincidences.
Based on this information, and again, I'm not putting this information out to dispute anybody's religious beliefs.
I'm putting it out as hard fact.
If we take this, what we find is if we move back five years, because now we can base the calendar on a date, if we move back five years, we find that 1998 is actually the year 2003.
Now, whether you go to Gordon Michael Scallion or Nostradamus or Christian prophecies that are out everywhere.
Ed Dames, we talk about 2003 as being the beginning of the earth changes.
So that would mean that the year 2012, when in the Mayan calendar, the Mayan perception, there is the end of the world.
Isn't that what was said?
It's not the end of the world.
It's the end of reality as we know it.
But 2012 is actually 2007.
So what that means, and with what's occurring and what's going on, things that Daniel was talking about, Ed Dames and other people, I haven't heard Ed Dames information.
But what with Gordon Michael Scallion, Lori Toy, what we're talking about is that we are in the end time.
This is when the prophecies hit.
If we now have an adjusted map, what I'm about to tell you about the seven thunders will make some sense.
The thunders are, okay, what we're talking about is prophecies that are thousands of years old here.
And what I've tried to do is make them palatable for today's language.
And the first three thunders have already occurred.
And these are, again, the warnings or the signals.
Let's use the word signals because warnings has a negative inclination to it.
The signals that we are definitely in the end times and it's time to clean our house.
The first thunder talks about that there would be much starvation and sickness, that we would see millions of children suffering and dying, and that we would not be able to help them.
I think that we've already seen this in Bosnia and Rwanda.
And then that brings us sort of to the second thunder, which is after we see the millions of starving and homeless, that the sky will become sick, that holes will appear that will be like sores.
They will have effects on both the physical as well as the dimensional realities of man.
So we're talking about that in areas it would be hard to breathe, that many forms of lung illness will develop.
If we were to look at the sky with soft eyes, which is a term that my elders have taught me, is how we look at the world usually is through hard eyes.
We see somebody, we know who they are.
We tell ourselves what it is before we see what it is.
We have this pre-programmed consciousness that gives us social consciousness so that we all understand what a tree is, what blue is.
But if you look with soft eyes, you don't look with prejudgment.
You simply look at situations.
If you look at the sky with soft eyes, you would see a green mist coming from the holes.
And regarding the physical manifestations, they're talking about that from this green mist, strange bacteria would be born into the waters.
That first it would appear in the populated areas in the surface water, and we would see the fish and the things that live in the water begin to grow deformities.
And this is what they call the little devils, three little devils.
Like I said, the first three have already happened.
Later, you will notice that many thousands and thousands of life forms that live within the waters will begin to die and that they will come up on the land seeking to escape the water from which they live because the water will mean death to them.
And now we're seeing this not only with Phisteria with the fish, which I understand now is I got a couple of emails that it's been seen in the Pacific.
The third thunder speaks about that we would see many new species, as well as many mutations in animals.
Now, we talked last time about jackrabbits with five ears, pictures I think you even have on your website of frogs with multiple limbs.
That's right.
We're talking about also that there would be a crossbreeding of other species so that you would see, for the first time in nature, species that you couldn't identify.
They would be part one animal and part another animal.
And they talk about the dyings of the frogs.
We have lost millions of frogs.
The honeybees are disappearing.
And now we have problems with turtles on the east coast.
But again, how did they know this thousands of years ago?
They say that when we see the deformities in the animals, that within one year, we would see this in human beings.
That we would see human beings being born with multiple limbs, missing organs.
We would see multiple births, people being born like litters.
And then that they talk again about the viruses, and they say that there will be a way to prevent two of them.
Somehow they'll find a way to prevent it.
So I'm going to equate that to they're going to find a way to filter two of them out of the water.
But the third one they would not be able to deal with.
The third one would have on its own.
Now, I have a report that I just got from the New England Medical Journal December 3rd about a doctor at the University of Texas Medical Center who came down with this flesh-eating virus.
And that now, when the fourth thunder comes, what happens is that the twins, one of the twins is the guardian of the North Pole, and the other twin is the guardian of the South Pole.
That they would come and they would wreak chaos, havoc with these poles.
Well, that would equate to electromagnetic frequency changes that we're going through.
Everything, the poles are moving, they're wobbling.
And then it goes into the fact that we're going to, because of this, because of everything that is in our consciousness that's connected to the electromagnetic frequencies, which is how we get our information, how we can think and process, we're little electrical bio computers.
And that we would then begin to experience hidden realities, realities that we were not aware of.
Once the first three thunders came, in the native way of looking at it, Spirit warns you three times, then you're on your own.
So the fourth one has to do with what we're dealing with, with the shifting of realities at this time.
And we're told that in this time, several of the lost cities and ancient temples would be discovered.
That the information, the knowledge that they had buried, not they buried it knowing that this time would come and that we would have to have something to have as a reference point because we would be in total chaos.
We would not know what was happening.
Also, if we go back to the Mayan prophecies, or the Hopi prophecies, we're told that in this time that we walk in two worlds, what happens is that all of the structures of our society start to break down.
Religious structures, science structures, financial structures, social structures, they all start to break down.
And the time and the dates are there.
It's right now.
These lost cities, and I just got an email from people who are with National Geographic.
Some reporters said that they have just found one of these cities near Lima, Peru.
Totally intact cities that they didn't even know was there.
Really?
I don't know about the pyramid that was supposed to be discovered.
There was a report on the CBS Evening News with Dan Ruther that they had discovered a pyramid in Alaska, a blue pyramid.
Now, my latter understanding of this is, even though it was reported that way, that there was some sort of movement or change in an ice field up there, glaciated blue ice, and there appeared to be a large glaciated blue ice pyramid,
not a pyramid as we would find at Giza or in Peru or in Mexico or elsewhere in the world, but a glaciated blue pyramid.
Now, that in itself, people can go, aha, so it's not a pyramid, or you could take it as you would take a sign like the twins that you just talked about.
But I know that one year ago, over a year ago, I guess, you predicted there would be a pyramid found in Alaska.
That there'd be a shifting of the earth and the ice, and that they would find a pyramid, and also along with that, they would find the remains of an ancient city.
But they're not talking about the spiritual implications that it could have.
And so my question would be, when you're considering all this, why do you separate spirit from everything that's alive, since nothing can live without spirit?
And if you've ever hunted an elk and had to skin it, you know what I'm talking about.
Yes, and this El Niño is already up to the damage point and the cost and loss of lives and real estate and already beyond what was there in 1982.
Now, what the elders say about the El Niño is that what will happen with this El Nino, it will wreak havoc.
It will cause floods.
It will cause the mountains to change.
We're seeing a lot of landslides.
South America on the Pacific coast is being battered by it.
You're seeing also the other effect of El Niño, which is El Niña, which is the little girl, because the story of El Niño basically is that it's called El Niño, the Christ child, because it comes around Christmas.
But El Niña is the little girl.
Now, what we see with El Niña, the little girl, is what we see over on the other side, what we see going on in Australia with all of the drought and the forest fires everywhere, the brush fires, what we see going on in Indonesia.
And then the devil winds come, these whirlwinds come, and they cause confusion everywhere.
All right, listen, we're at the bottom of the hour, and I need a break.
And I think they do too.
So we will break right here.
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We go into the fourth thunder because I know that we have to get the calls.
We do.
We're also told in the fourth thunder, that has to do with the physical changes.
And the purpose of the physical changes is the earth is more or less going through a fever.
We keep forgetting that she's a body.
She's a being in her own right.
She's going through her fever.
She's getting rid of her toxins.
She's getting rid of all of the malalign thoughts that we've produced and the things that we've done accidentally or purposely to her in experimentation.
And that she's throwing off her illness.
And it's also done metaphorically so that we learn to get together and to get along as people.
Because for some reason, when we're in tragedy, when we're in climatic changes, we tend to pull together and all of a sudden we don't look at the differences because you're trying to get the tree out of the way of your car so you can get down the road.
If someone's hurt by the side of the road, everybody stops and people try to help.
So perhaps that's why these things are happening in the manner that they are.
We're being given a chance now to change around everything that I'm talking about.
That's what's so frustrating.
I mean, I can sit there with David Adair and other scientists, and I have, and it's frustrating to them as well.
We have the technology to help everything, and yet we keep playing around with these ridiculous games with HARP.
Now they're trying to experiment with moving the tectonic plates.
It's just absurd.
But when we go into the second part of what the fourth thunder is, it warns us that this will be the warning of the signal of the beginning of the fifth thunder, and that we will see in this time many people leaving this life, people dying in large numbers.
We warns that four great women will perish.
We've already lost two.
We've lost Diana, and we've lost Mother Teresa.
So there'll be two more that will come.
And this will signal the beginning, ironically, of the seven circles, which are the answers to the curing of the seven thunders, where we will begin to awaken to our spirituality and start to employ it and act upon it rather than sit back and cloister it.
When we move into the dimensional shifts, what we're talking about is that we're going to see first the appearances of other dimensional expressions in the bodiment of man, meaning walk-ins.
We're going to see walk-ins.
They're going to become people who have shifted in consciousness.
You'll find that when you're dealing with walk-ins, people will make radical changes in their patterns of living, the way they believe, the way they act, the way they dress.
It's a very radical thing.
And the elders are also very concerned, believe it or not, they're very concerned with what's happened with the Montauk Project and other projects of that nature.
They are in total understanding of the reality of them and that they have caused a lot of damage in what we call the time-space continuum.
They have literally created artificial realities that are now, because of the natural events, causing chaos in what would have happened.
So that as we go into the fifth thunder and the sixth and the seventh, what happens is that these events, which probably would have happened linearly, are now merging and happening simultaneously.
So we go again into your zero-point theories.
And when we get to the fifth thunder, the fifth thunder has to do with the fact that the atmosphere is so damaged that what it protected us from, as far as radiation, as far as ultraviolet rays, that it can no longer repair itself.
And that this will cause mutations in consciousness because it will allow radiation to come through.
Again, like in the green mist.
And then it refers to in the fifth thunder that this is also when the bubble of time, time as we perceive it, will start to shift.
As we go into the millennium, as we go towards zero point, as we go toward the end of whatever we're experiencing, we're told about a shifting of realities.
We're talking about a merging of realities, a shifting of consciousness.
And the quickening is now the jet stream.
I mean, it's happening so fast that probably as we're talking, who knows what has happened?
As we go through these changes, we will start to see that within 18 months from the time of the El Niño, that time and reality will shift.
We will start to have very strange experiences of seeing demonic things, evil that had been buried for a long time, rising up.
And we will also see the other side of that.
We will see a lot of people having visions of sacred people.
Buffalo calf woman will probably appear to many women.
The Virgin Mary will appear to many people.
Jesus will appear to many people.
Crazy horse will appear to many people.
Because the veil that has kept us separated will be condensing.
It'll be shrinking.
It won't be such a big separation.
We're going to start to experience our connection to all things.
When we're told that in this time, there's going to be an event that will happen, and I'm going to step out and say that we're going to see it probably within the next 90 to 120 days.
That the event will be caused by man and his experimenting with the earth, much like they did in Atlantis.
And it's probably going to have to do with HAARP, is my intuition.
That this is going to cause a volcano to explode in Central America, Mexico City.
And that when this erupts, this is the one they call the Little Sister, that it will crack the egg of the Phoenix, and the repercussions will move straight up the Cascades, which will fulfill the prophecy of Grandfather answering the Little Sister.
Now, this will cause a lot of shaking in the earth.
You're going to see a lot of shaking going on along the Pacific coast.
I mean, major shaking, major earthquakes.
You're going to be dealing with maybe as many as 3,200 earthquakes in a month happening all around the Pacific Rim.
You're going to see intensified volcanic reaction, and it will lead up to the volcano in Mexico blowing up.
Remember again, we said that El Niño is a reoccurring thing.
What they're saying is that El Niño will come back to back.
At first you have El Vallejo, you have the old man.
He comes and he brings the El Niño.
But then you have La Vea Damas, you have the grandmother, and she will come back to back so that we will see another El Niño come right behind this one.
Not six years later, not 18 months later, but right behind it.
And that we have to be very prepared because it's going to cause a lot of trouble.
We're going to see, you won't be able to get trucks across the roads.
You won't be able to get supplies to cities.
You're going to lose crop failures.
They say that probably within the next year, we'll see the price of produce and things in the supermarket go up maybe 60, 75%, maybe 80%.
Well, let's just say then, as we go into the sixth thunder, we're seeing all of these changes happening.
And then we're going to see the people from the stars returning.
Because the people from the stars returning will come and they will interact with us to try to help us prevent the seventh thunder.
Because the seventh thunder has to do with zero point.
It has to do with the end of what we know and the major climatic changes.
They're saying that this will happen within nine years.
They're saying that the star people have given us basically two years to straighten out what we have.
At which point, with the collapsing of time and the increasing speed in which it's collapsing, we will reach a point where the Earth will actually be in danger of self-destruction.
It will have picked up the consciousness of our society, which is basically on self-destruct.
The star people would intervene at that point and prevent that from happening.
Now, we're not talking about millions of people being lifted up in a spaceship because they could care less about politics.
What we're talking about is the preservation of the earth.
Which are in all the calendars and the cycles of it.
And if we ever get the website up and working again, I'll have that up there so people can look at it or they can see it and winds have changed.
And what will happen and how this three and a half days of darkness will happen, what I'm going to tell you is going to sound really simple, but it's actually what happens.
What happens is that Nibiru comes between the Earth and the Sun in this orbit.
And we're dealing now with 26,000-year cycles, 2,600-year cycles, 206,000-year cycles, and 26 million-year cycles.
Everything coming into a convergence of one.
This planet comes between the Earth and it comes between the Sun.
So what it does basically is it causes an eclipse on the Earth.
It stops all sunlight from hitting the Earth.
When the sunlight stops hitting the Earth, just like people have a macabre field that moves energy around them, and we work off light, like flowers work off light, and trees work off light, and the water works off light, and the fish know when the light is there, and when we can go fishing, and when it's not, we work off a cosmic clock.
And how the Earth gets its information is through the pyramids.
The pyramids act like tezioelectric circuits.
The sun hits them, it sets impulses into the core of the earth that keeps the molten core moving so that the earth knows precisely how fast to move, how to turn, how to move its energy, and it holds its information.
Well, when we go through the eclipse, there will be no sunlight.
So if you could imagine these little carousel things that you would get at Christmas, and you put the angels up and you light a candle in there, and they turn around.
Well, when you blow the candle out, there's no heat, there's no light, there's no energy source coming from there.
So what happens is the little angels stop turning.
Everything stops.
Hello, welcome to Zero Point.
When the planet comes out of that particular position and the light starts to hit Earth again, this is when we pick up in what is called the fifth world, which is called the change.
I intentionally just kept my mouth shut during all of that.
And I understand that when we come back and when we open the lines in some markets, there's going to be anger.
There's going to be shock.
There's going to be denial and disbelief.
And that's fine.
For those of you who have been listening for some time now, I suspect there will be an awful lot of fear and synchronicity and understanding.
So expect reactions of all of those sorts.
My guest, the man you have just heard, is Robert Ghostwolf, a Native American.
And you just heard about the Seven Thunders.
Okay, let me take one moment out now and tell you that I have myself written two books.
One was called The Art of Talk, and it was just sort of the story of my life and talk radio and behind the scenes and all that kind of stuff.
And as I have frequently said, that book really ticked off a lot of people.
I mean, there are a lot of people who will not talk to me about this, to this very day for what I said, just because I decided to lay it all out.
But that's okay.
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It sold out.
I told you it would.
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So what we have is the following offer.
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The Art of Talk audio version autographed or for the next few days only because I'm about to withdraw this offer.
I can only sign so many things.
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That's the title.
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So one more time, let me give you that number, and you can get the Art of Talk audio version or the Quickening, the Hardback book, autographed at 1-800-864-7991.
When we come back in some markets, we'll open the lines for Robert Ghostwolf.
Well, here I am, and I think I just want to hear a little bit of this and sort of recover a little bit.
Here's somebody who just faxed me, Hi Art, from today's news, right before your broadcast.
Our winds in the valley yesterday translated into incredible Santa Ana winds in California, and gusts of 110 to 125 miles per hour were recorded today.
By the way, I saw that blue pyramid on CBS.
I didn't connect it to yours because it was just an uptilted piece of ice shaped just like a pyramid.
But the report, nevertheless, was an interesting, quickening report because it was all about how the glaciers in Alaska have retreated to unprecedented levels never before seen.
And I do believe with what you guys are saying wholeheartedly.
And my question to Robert is what Daniel said last night about how he was sure that the prayers and everything helped him to make it through everything.
Yes.
How he's saying that everything isn't written in stone is people, their thoughts and how they feel about things, can that change the outcome?
I mean, I know there are things that are, you know, they're going to take place, you know, no matter what people's state of consciousness is, but that was my question.
And right now, what we're being called upon is to go to our spirituality, to go to our hearts.
We've used everything else.
It doesn't seem to work.
And the one thing that we haven't relied on, with as much importance and emphasis is on our hearts and on our prayers, it's time to wake up the spirituality that's inside of us, whatever that spirituality is.
And the card line, you're on to the Robert Ghostwolf.
unidentified
Hello.
Pleasure.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Robert.
Calling from Indian Springs.
I got a couple questions.
If the Star People are privy to the coming disasters, why haven't, in your opinion, Robert, the Star People repaired or prevented the coming thunders altogether, saving them a lot of work?
A lot of the fireballs that we see in the sky, the green lights, the blue lights that go through the sky, these have all been sent here to help us protect our atmosphere and help things.
The messengers that have been coming and the knowledge that's being now basically released all over the world, it doesn't matter where you go.
It's like coming from so many different areas now.
And everybody's talking the same song.
And what they're saying is, wake up, get spiritual, and start to realize the connections of life.
Start to realize the gentleness of what we are, the beauty of what we are, rather than the negative aspects of what we are, which is what has caused this.
unidentified
Right.
Okay, and a second question.
If indeed the world winds, I believe it was the sixth thunder.
Oh, fifth thunder are to appear, would it not be safe to assume they are the vacuum of space piercing the atmosphere, then creating an icy downpour of huge chunks of frozen water, some as big as cars, similar to what happened in the Bikini Islands after they test very large megaton nuclear bombs?
And all of a sudden, you start to put holes in it, and what happens is it no longer has a point of reference, and then what you have is chaos, which is what we're experiencing now.
Hey, I heard you say to Aunt that you know through calculations when the coming of Christ is, what we would call the Christ, depending upon your perception.
And a point for Robert, or a question, I imagine, is I used to study a lot of the Indian traditions and memory beliefs, that sort of thing.
And I came across a couple interesting facts that when the first Europeans came to North America, there were tales of very large animals that in the last hundred years or so they attributed to possibly being dinosaurs.
And I was wondering if he thought that they were racial memories or like a sweat lodge memory that was passed on to him or whether the people were actually here at that time.
What I'm really trying to say is that I know you're going to cut me off because I'm involved in radio and you're thinking that I'm not saying anything.
A lot of the information comes down from written, I'm going to call them documents, but they're usually written on stone.
Some of them are written on hides.
Some of them are from oral stories that are told when we do gatherings.
Because the Native society culture is basically an oral tradition.
These stories are carried down from generation to generation.
For instance, with the Iroquois people, they tell a story of the Ganahuita, the prophet, the peacemaker, and it's told every year, and each person has a part of that story.
And they then turn that story over to another person when it's their time to pass it on to another person.
And they spend like several days just going through the story so that this is kept alive.
And what I was commenting upon is there was in more or less recent years, last 20, 30 years, there was a text found in Egypt, a series of texts, rather, called the, they are referred to as the Non-Hammadi Library.
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One of them is the best for the money, and the other is the best in the world.
You decide which one you want.
The digital revolution in telephones is well underway.
The old portable telephones are as gone as the dinosaurs.
I could only wish that they would all be piled in one place and a great KT event would occur on top of the pile.
Pretty ugly, huh?
The old portable phones are horrible.
The new ones do a number of things the old ones never thought about doing.
They give you clarity as if you were listening to a phone plugged into the wall and frankly, better than a lot of them.
They give you distance that's unmatched from the base unit.
They give you complete and absolute and utter privacy.
Nobody is going to listen to a phone call you make.
Now, there are two models that I would recommend to you.
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And frankly, there are people who have had as much as four miles distance from it at $179.95.
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Both are digital.
One is straight digital, and the other is spread spectrum digital.
And I will not burden you with the technical details except to tell you they will do what I told you they will do a few months ago.
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I have never seen such a web pun intended of technological destruction in the path of a radio program before.
But we do have our website back up.
My site is backup at www.artbell.com.
There is a riotous 911 call that you've got to download and listen to, or just listen to it on the site.
It is hilarious.
It contains some very severe language, so be warned.
But it could only be put up that way, so keep it away from the children.
But I think you'll find it to be a riot.
It was sent to me by a police officer in Buffalo, New York.
It's a riot.
And then, of course, Keith came on earlier, and you can vote for the Webbies.
We have been nominated, I guess, for the, what would you call it, the Oscars, the Academy Awards of web pages, and you can vote.
So we're hoping you will vote for us, and we're hoping the website will stay up.
Anyway, it is back up right now at www.artbell.com.
Now, back to Robert Ghostwolf and our caller.
Caller, what else can we do for you?
unidentified
Okay, I'm sorry.
What I was saying, what I was trying to get at, was the Gnostic texts of the Nag Hammadi state that one of the things in the very beginning of it is it states that these are intended to have been discovered at the ending times or whatever you want to call it.
The point I'm making is one of the Gnostic tenets is one of the Gnostic tenets they were talking about was that the world is continually falling, quote unquote, not in the sense of, not in the sense most people think of, but it is gaining a density.
And the density can be measured in terms of time.
As it grows more dense, it gains time, it gains stuff, it gains amount of people, procreation, things like this.
And it's very interesting to me when you look back at the time in which these things were written and hidden and didn't surface until now, that there was no way that these people could have known, at least by conventional methods, that we would be living in a world in which the time of life had increased so much, the rapidity, the sheer amount of stuff that we produce, the sheer amount of people on this planet.
And what it talks about in the text, at least in some places, is one of the things it says about it.
And I think this is what's really important, at least what I'm trying to call about, is that what's important is it's not just a matter of changing the way we physically act.
We have to take it.
The quote I believe is actually, you were once one, but you have made yourself two.
But now that you are two, what will you do?
We have to bring ourselves back.
We have to step away from the polarity that we have created in our own lives, in our own psyches.
This is a way of saying we must become more spiritual.
unidentified
We must become more spiritual, but the problem is, is so many people have been so, have depended on literary sources or someone else's sources for so long that most of us, when we say spiritual, don't even know that spiritual isn't to be found in a book.
Well, I think that I have some things up on my site if it ever comes back.
And there's more petroglyphs coming up.
I just came back from an extensive trip down in Nevada looking at the petroglyphs, and I think they speak for themselves.
They definitely speak for themselves.
And so what we're finding out of it is that the correlation of people throughout time, isn't it funny how civilization changed, but we all keep coming up with the same story?
And these things we're speaking of these last few weeks and tonight in particular are wondrous events.
And personally, I look forward to them.
I'm not fearful of them.
What I'd like to ask Robert is, these catastrophic and cataclysmic earth changes that are being foretold, might they be likened to the birth pangs of a mother giving birth to a child and that the earth as our mother is going to give birth to a new and higher human consciousness?
And the pangs that we're feeling with the movement of the plates, you know, we're going back from using spiritual language and technical language, but we can explain what's going on, and people can get it from both sides of their brain.
But what's happening is that we're being birthed with a whole new reality.
We're being given the opportunity to make a whole new expression.
And instead of having to pass over and go through these changes on another plane, so to speak, we're getting to deal with them right here.
We're getting to do our life reviews right here and make our changes.
And for everything that happens negative, something positive happens.
I mean, when we're talking about the universal prophecies, yes.
When we're talking about history of the earth, in some ways, yes.
But what we have to understand that the problem I feel, this is my personal view, and there may be some that share it and some that argue with it, is that which Bible do we read?
There's so many different versions of the Bible.
And if we go back to the Bible that was written before 1939, there's a whole part of the Bible, the apocrypha, which explains the bridging between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
That whole piece of information has been removed from contemporary Bibles.
I think that's what I would say about the Bible.
unidentified
So you're saying that you said earlier that you get your stuff from stones and stuff that people wrote, I guess, a long time ago.
I guess you could...
It's kind of hard because there's so many different versions.
But I've got your number on your book and everything.
And maybe if enough people want, they can send faxes to Art and let them know.
And I'll come up and talk about the other side of this, too, which could be a whole show.
The thing here is that, you know, there are stories here about the pale prophet, about Quatsiqual, La Comatette, about this healer who came, who taught everybody here.
There really is no separation.
There's just two different peoples talking about the same thing.
unidentified
Well, I'm really interested in finding out the truth.
I'm thinking, you sound like you did a lot of studying.
And, you know, I really appreciate you coming on the show there.
Right, no matter how people are reacting to this with anger, with amazement, with awe, whether they're incredulous, you didn't just pull this out of the air, that's obvious.
Look, Robert, a parallel, but perhaps, I mean, I'm sorry, a separate but perhaps parallel idea towards what could be the cause of the coming paradigm shift.
Our leaders have us on a course of destruction.
Not because they sat back and said, we want to destroy the earth, but because they're using everything up.
You know, inevitably, it could very well lead to destruction.
We out here, the people in the public arena, perhaps see this.
We can see what's going on.
We can see what's happening.
So because of survival instincts or because of a conscious desire to survive, we know that we have to make changes.
We know that changes have to take place.
And so therefore, we rather consciously or unconsciously start making a shift towards that process.
That's one of the reasons why we're doing the ghost dance, because it is the grandmother energy.
And it's about dreaming.
It's about dreaming the future.
It's about dreaming our reality.
And it's about we, the people.
It's about what you're saying is true.
The leaders have led us astray.
But is it their fault or is it our fault?
Most of the leaders, if you're any knowledge of government, don't really know what they're doing.
unidentified
Well, I'm not so much assigning blame as that I'm bringing about or suggesting the possibility that we perceive the need for change and therefore we are bringing about the change ourselves because we perceive the need for change.
I ask you to look upon the faces of the children of this earth.
Can you see as I that they are all the same?
I ask you to look upon them and help us who hold the memory of the original teachings, that we might open the people's hearts.
Grandfather, I ask you to help that they might stand strong as we face these winds of change, that they might learn once again to walk without fear and judgment of themselves and each other.