Rocket scientist David Adair, who launched a half-ton missile at 17 and worked with retired General Curtis LeMay on electromagnetic fusion tech, reveals a 1960s-era "organic" engine—grown, not assembled—at Area 51, reacting to pilots’ emotions via heat-sensitive alloys. He ties its origins to Operation Paperclip’s Nazi scientists, like Dr. Arthur Rudolph, and warns of suppressed symbiotic propulsion systems, now tested in F-22 jets. Callers debate Hubble image delays, astronaut psychological breakdowns (e.g., Armstrong’s "wiped out" state), and classified anti-gravity research, while Adair insists full disclosure is ethical. His upcoming lectures at the Whole Life Expo on November 23rd promise deeper dives into off-world tech and government secrecy. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, or good morning, as the case may be, across this wide expanse of land, and well beyond, actually, from the Tahiti and Hawaiian Islands in the west, eastward to the Caribbean, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Good morning down there.
South into South America, on a list rate there, on an email, anyway.
And then north to the pole and worldwide on the internet, this is Postgol AM.
I am Mark Bell, and this is a new week, and there are going to be some interesting things occurring tonight.
And I don't mind telling you I'm a little bit nervous about them.
It's easier if I talk about being nervous.
Those of you who can see my studio cam, you know the live cam we've got that covers me while I'm doing the show.
You can probably see the beads of cold sweat pouring from my forehead.
I would like to welcome WGACAM in Augusta, Georgia.
They are 580 on the dial there, and I suspect heard rather regionally.
So great to have you on board in Augusta, Georgia.
In the second hour of the program, we will be welcoming WABC in New York.
Yeah, that's right, WABC in New York.
And that accounts for the beads of sweat on my forehead.
I wonder, you know, in all the years I've been broadcasting, I wonder if this is, I don't think it's ever going to end.
I mean, if it was going to end, it should have ended by now.
I still get the cold sweats and I get the case of the nerves and I get all messed up for a little while when I get on in a gigantic new market.
It just happens and I can't seem to stop it.
And so it will take me a few hours to level out and sort of be myself.
After a few hours, I'll forget it.
You know, I'll just forget it.
I'll get lost in the show during the program.
And then it's all gone.
No problem.
But for a few hours, in my mind's eye, I will picture the skyline of Manhattan.
I will see, like from 30 or 40,000 feet, all the people like little ants running around with a million cars and millions and millions of people that are suddenly hearing me.
And I'll be freaked out.
So you're going to have to put up with that for a little while.
And then I'll probably return to normal.
At least I always have so far.
Tonight, you're in for a real treat.
David Adair is here.
David Adair is a real rocket scientist.
And he's going to follow up a little bit, or I'm going to make him follow up a little bit, on what Gene Myers had to say last week, and that was about the space islands.
Remember what a cool idea that is?
I should, well, I'll tell you in a minute.
Anyway, David Adair is with us tonight, and I know a lot of you will not have heard him before.
So you're in for a treat.
Well, all right.
As promised, let me tell you a little bit about David T. Adair.
T. I wonder what the T stands for.
He is a nationally and internationally recognized leader and expert in the field of space technology spin-off applications for industry and commercial use.
He is a world-class presenter, keynote speaker, seminar and work shop leader, and a consultant with 17 years of experience.
My.
Beginning at the age of 11, David built the first of hundreds of rockets, which he designed himself and test flew.
At the age of 17, he won the award for the most outstanding in the field of engineering sciences from the United States Air Force.
How about that?
For his construction of a 10-foot-tall missile weighing a half ton.
Wow.
At the age of 19, he designed and fabricated a state-of-the-art mechanical system for changing jet engine turbines.
This machine set a world record turnaround time that still stands today by reducing the replacement time from three weeks to four and a half hours?
Upon completing his tour of duty in the Navy in 78, David began his own space industrial applications company called Intersect.
That's I-N-T-E-R, and then the acronym S-E-C-T, whatever that is, and has conducted operations and projects with it to the present time.
Listen, I spent some time at your recommendation last week with Gene Myers.
Oh, yeah.
And probably one of the more exciting programs that I've ever had.
Gene says that you can take the large orange, what do you call it, David?
External tank.
External tank, thank you.
Use on the shuttle, basically, and take it into space instead of letting it crash back to Earth and put them together and literally create a tourist haven in space that would carry at any given time 300 tourists and that the shuttles could be built at just a fraction of the current cost to take them back and forth and to help construct more of these Disneylands in
space.
And I spent hours talking to him about the concept.
And so, because of your background, first thing I want to ask you about is: is it really possible?
See, they've got right now, the aerospace companies have a cash-cow money pit running in the International Space Station.
They're already at, gosh, like $80 billion or $40 billion, a phenomenal amount.
We don't even have a station yet.
$40 billion into R ⁇ D. And every time they do an R ⁇ D design, they trash it and do another one.
They pocket the money, and they keep doing that, and they don't have to produce anything.
My God, why would they want to kill a cash cow like that?
And so it's just a bureaucratic money pit that goes on in Washington, D.C. And that's why they're not bothered doing it, because it's just too good money right now, and nobody's raising any ruckus about it.
Well, Gene sent me a follow-up facts after we did the show, you know, and he said, boy, we've got all of a sudden interest from all kinds of very important people, and what has looked like a dream for 17 or 20 years or whatever now looks like it might be a reality.
And, you know, he offered me, I'll be 60 years old, when he anticipates he'll have it up and running.
I think you and Ramona will be in for a real trip then.
We'll give you a cabin, one on the outer ring for gravity field, and then one for the inner part, which will be total weightlessness, and you can have at it.
you think sex in space would be Gene said that one advantage of being in space is that all the blood, which normally coagulates, coagulates apparently, or rushes or stays toward the bottom part of your body, would go toward the top part of your body.
Taking women who have been for years the victims of gravity and making them into a new cup size.
Yeah, where your face fills in and the wrinkle will fill the lines and wrinkles will fill up with extra blood and what happens, it tightens skin, so it's an automatic face lift.
But it's not permanent when you come back, the gravity fill will overtake it.
But while you're there, I don't know.
Do you know of any resort place you can go to, Art, that after the first day you're there, you look 20 years younger?
And that would be we'd end up with all of these ravishing beauties looking 20 years younger in this super romantic environment.
My God, you're going around the earth every, you know, getting a sunrise and sunset or whatever every 45 minutes, something like that.
Incredibly romantic.
I mean, the gals' expectations would be sky-high, right?
But if the blood rushing from the bottom of the body toward the top of the body is good for the girls, I was thinking, you know, maybe it might not be so good for the guys.
It's pumping real hard, and it causes the pressure to rise a little bit, which has never really been a problem for any of the astronauts because normally they're in such good health when they go.
But on the theory side, there will be some drawbacks, but for people who are visiting space for short term like that, it won't be a problem for you, like calcium leaking out of your joints or your heart going into atrophy.
It doesn't have gravity field to resist it.
For a short term, one or two weeks, you wouldn't even be bothered by any of that.
And I understand you have the feeling of falling in zero G. Well, what happens, yeah, your inner equilibrium gets out of kilter up there because it doesn't have the gravity field to center itself on which one's equal.
But how about, what would it be like, David, to have just a little bit of G?
I mean, like a tenth or a twentieth of gravity to the point where, like, you could put your finger on the floor and push, and you'd go boing into the air gently and come back down.
But it sure would make you feel pretty strong because you could jump probably flat-footed from the floor to the ceiling because the strength in your legs would be more than enough to overcome it.
You pick up your wife romantically and carry her with some resistance.
The half-gravity field could be even more pleasant for romantic encounters than a weightless environment because you need a little resistance to be able to get momentum and inertia and that kind of stuff going on.
If you do get space sickness, it's going to hang with you about the first day and a half, and then after that, it will dissipate and it will not come back.
Once again, they say that the whole idea for going out there is to have a weightless environment, which I totally agree from my aspect on space manufacturing.
Somebody's asking me, and I've always wondered about this too, if you were not inside the space station and you were outside, as in a spacesuit, how cold would it be?
Now, I've seen a lot of pictures, by the way, Alien Force coming out.
You know, a lot of science fiction stuff.
If you lost, do you remember in 2001, David, when our astronaut got locked out and he held his nose, somehow got an airlock open, and went through some space without kind of cold, with no air, decompressing, the whole thing.
It could be done, but you're not going to be feeling and looking too well at the end of it all.
Your capillaries at the top of the skin are just about going to swell and explode from the pressurization process, and the cold will actually burn you almost like fire.
So it'd be you could do it, but you look like you've been you've had massive exposure to frostbite.
Well, I would assume, and maybe I shouldn't, that even with conventional engines, we can build up, if we want to, a lot more velocity than we had going to the moon.
It all would depend on which uh type of propulsion system you're using, you know, velocity.
Uh you could be looking but if you're not anywhere near uh light speed, which um even at light speed, uh you're still looking at several years travel time at 186,000 miles a second.
Uh but if you're down below to where we're at or anywhere around type engines, you're you're talking hundreds of years.
Now, do they really know yet whether, I suppose sex in space is possible, but would a fetus, a human fetus, grow normally in a zero-G environment or a partial zero-G environment?
Well, I feel that first the situation you'd have to have, you would have to have a fertilized female up there in space.
And it's never been, I guess, politically correct to have a mother full-term in space.
There's computer scenarios that have been run.
I guess what governed a lot of this is that there are several possibilities.
One is that the child will be normal due to the fact that we're already born into a womb which is filled with a liquid, so we're kind of in a suspended state anyhow.
So that everything would be just pretty much normal without any difference.
Another possibility, there could be really gross deformities.
The child could be dead, could be a moron, could be all kinds of problems.
But then there was another interesting scenario that came at the other end of the table and scale, and this may have been the one why nobody wanted to deal with it, is that when the human brain is developing, it's a mass of electrical impulses and electrochemical occurrences and growing.
And these organs and systems are vastly affected by a weightless environment.
There's a possibility that a child could develop to a level that you may have a problem with, you know, come back with an IQ instead of the thousands, maybe using 50%, 60, 80% of the brain power, which might be a little problem for us because the child may not have some different ideas and may not interface with society that way.
Well, the premise, and I always wondered about this, again, in 2001, in effect, you know, everybody argued about the end of that movie, but I always thought that he was himself, in effect, godlike, coming back to judge earth.
Now, a lot of people have different takes on that.
But that's kind of what happened to him, in a way, isn't it?
Yeah, that was the people who followed the technological flow pretty closely in that movie.
If you watched it, of all science fiction movies, that's one that's been so well respected because they really write down to no sound when you explode in a vacuum.
They got that idea through the scenario test I was talking about.
When they saw that, the child out there could develop in space, be totally different.
Still look humanoid, but his brain would be totally vastly different an hour or so.
Wouldn't it force an immediate, almost immediate, certainly within a few generations, it would force a very fast evolutionary change because conditions would be so different.
Well, or if we ever got a chance, they could have telekinesis power and teleportation and everything else and just simply think you away and you're gone.
So that was a, this whole thing led to a speculation that it's an area they just didn't want to get into.
So that's why, to answer your question, there was serious thought about these scenarios.
And like I said, it's still unknown.
Nobody can prove it right or wrong, but they just didn't want to get into that situation.
The capsule came down in Brevard County, which comes under the jurisdiction of the Brevard County Coroner, who had jurisdiction over NASA.
So he got to see the bodies with NASA throwing a fit.
But more than that, when they found the capsule, we found the crew compartment intact.
The crew was still there in the flight deck area.
The reason we know they were alive was that, let me explain the scenario of what happened in that explosion.
Let's back up just a bit.
When a shuttle's built, designed, if you look at it, just forward at the end of the cargo bay, you have a massive bulkhead, a wall, which is the back of the nose section of the space shuttle.
If you would grab a toy model by the cargo bay and grab that nose and break it, it's going to break even at that wall because that's the way this thing is structurally designed.
In the very beginning, we asked for a Rolls-Royce in a spacecraft, and we started off with one.
We really did.
But when the budget cuts came, by the time we got through with it, we almost got a Ford Pento.
Well, I bet Ford's going to hate me on that one.
But the point is that we tucked a lot away from it.
One of the things that the design engineers wanted to do was build an explosive collar that goes between the end of the cargo bay and the nose section, the cabin crew of the shuttle.
When you do you blow that entire nose section away from the rest of the shuttle, it will tumble out and then it can stabilize itself either by aerodynamic structure of itself or it uses a retro rocket.
But it would pop its nose section off.
A drug chute would come out which would then eventually pull it and have to stabilize.
Then the main chutes would come out and that entire pressurized cabin area would land and everybody crawls out and go, what a ride.
They started cutting back because cost overrun started because you've got a bureaucratic agency trying to make a competitive market machine, which is not going to be able to do it.
And Gene Myers and his outfits showed that really well with what Boeing had to say.
Boeing now has bought Rockwell International, who's the prime contractor.
They're the ones that built the orbiter, the space shuttle.
You remember the leak that it showed with the fire coming kind of horizontally at the SRB?
Something I've wondered about in recent launches, and I watch all the launches really carefully, I swear, and it just may be A trick on the eye, but I could swear I've seen exactly the same kind of fire at about the same point on a lot of launches.
But first, we better back up and answer the question, how do we know the crew is alive?
Yeah.
See, when the thing exploded, external tank when it ruptured with the SRB going into it, it blew the shuttle apart.
And guess what stayed in complete intact, the entire nose section forward of the cargo bay.
And there's a picture that I have here with the sunlight shining off the windshield coming out of the fireball, meaning that the windshield didn't even shatter.
So the long-range Air Force cameras took this picture.
So anyhow, the thing went tumbling away from there, and so it's on free fall.
Now it's going to free fall for quite a while.
Good 8 to 12 minutes.
They were quite a ways up.
And in free fall, what are astronauts used to working in?
Weightless environment.
They're in free fall.
They're in a weightless environment.
These are trained professionals except for the school teacher.
Everybody was a veteran astronaut there with hours in space.
And what we found was OBAs were not torn off the walls.
Those are oxygen breathing apparatuses.
The OBAs were removed from their racks and they had put their OBAs on so they could breathe because they had lost internal oxygen pressurization.
And the next thing that we found is that the medical kits were not torn from the back of the seats.
They had been removed.
They were fixing each other up because the shrapnel coming through there must have been like being in a closet with a chainsaw.
So these people are wounded and injured, but they're professionals.
And even if you have a leg arm blowed off in a weightless environment, you can move around a lot easier.
So they are repairing each other on the way to impact.
This is our number two of the program, hour number one of the program for WABC AM in New York.
Damn.
This is, as I explained to the earlier audience, and I've explained to audiences now for years, it's going to be hard for me.
Because I am nervous.
Actually terrified.
Panic attack.
Sweat coming from the brow.
I have a, on my website, I have a webcam, a live webcam, and you can go there and actually see photographs of me as I'm doing the program.
I don't know, like every 45 seconds or something.
You can see the sweat coming off my brow.
I have little panic attacks.
Anyway, I guess if all the satellites and receivers and links and so forth worked correctly, we are now on the air in New York City.
Now, I grew up in the Northeast corridor, in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, outside Philadelphia, Maryland, down near the Maryland-Pennsylvania border.
In other words, all around New York.
My dad worked in New York City in Manhattan for a lot of years.
As a matter of fact, he once took me in and I got to shake hands with President Eisenhower, where he worked in Manhattan.
And so I know Manhattan.
And There is no way, even being, and I was talking to Sean Hannity, who was kind enough to have me on WABC before all this began tonight for about a half hour.
And there's just no way for me to not be nervous, even after all these years and all these radio stations.
Here we are on the radio station that I grew up with.
It was a bigger dream than I could dream then to be on WABC.
And here I am on WABC.
So what I am going to try to do is to not think about it.
Now that I've welcomed WABC, and in my mind's eye, as I said, I picture inevitably, no matter what I do, I picture Manhattan, the skyline.
It's like I'm 30 or 40,000 feet above it, you know, and I can see all the gazillions of people down there.
This even happens to me when I go to LA.
We're on KBC in Los Angeles, and I go down to Los Angeles, and I'm at the airport because, you know, I tranced in and out for something or another.
And when I'm home here in Nevada doing my show from the desert in my little studio in my home, it's just like you and me.
But when a new radio station comes on, like this big monster in the big apple, it's a mind-blower and it's going to throw me off my pace for a while, so you're just going to have to put up with that.
So if you're there, welcome, WABC in New York.
A good friend of mine, through faxing anyway, Daryl writes, I always try to remember that New York is mainly made up of people from everywhere else anyhow.
And they're just as scared and anxious as when they were back where they came from, probably more.
And anyway, when you're at the multi-million level, what's a few more?
Thanks, Daryl.
And I wish I could say that it avoids my cold sweats, but it doesn't.
David Adair, David T. Adair, I want to find out what the T stands for, is a nationally and internationally recognized leader and expert in the field of space technology spin-off applications.
For industry and commercial use, he is a world-class presenter, keynote speaker, seminar and workshop leader, and a consultant with 17 years of experience.
Beginning at the age of 11, David built the first of hundreds of rockets, which he designed and test-flew.
At the age of 17, Get This Folks, he won the award for the most outstanding in the field of engineering sciences from the U.S. Air Force for his construction of a, get this now, a 10-foot-tall missile weighing half a ton.
After graduation, he entered the U.S. Navy.
At the age of 19, he designed and fabricated a state-of-the-art mechanical system for changing jet engine turbines.
This machine set the world record, the world record turnaround times that still stand today by reducing the replacement time from three weeks to four and a half hours.
So he ought to be rich, huh?
Upon completing his tour of duty in the Navy in 1978, David began his own space industrial applications company called Intersect.
That's I-N-T-E-R, and then S-E-C-T, and has conducted operations and projects with it to the present.
Apparently, on every single shuttle mission, there is a device on board which would detonate the whole thing.
In other words, if the shuttle begins coming down somewhere where it shouldn't headed toward a city or a landmass or whatever, they can detonate the whole shuttle from the ground.
Yeah, but if they can detonate them right then, they can detonate them at any point.
So when they're strapped to the shuttle package and they want to take out the shuttle because it's heading toward Orlando, they can detonate the entire package.
Well, you're looking at, let's see, for no short a distance than it would be from the Cape to Orlando.
It still would be carrying a half a million gallons of liquid hydrogen, liquid oxygen.
Each solid rocket booster has 3.5 million pounds of solid propellant.
The equivalent weight is 3.5 statute of liberties in each one.
So, let's see, no, it's a total of 11, so okay, it's 5.5 million pounds.
So you have 11 million pounds of solid rocket fuel, a half a million gallons of liquid oxygen, Liquid hydrogen, you have the potential explosive warhead of almost a five-megaton warhead.
So what would happen is if that thing would plow right into downtown Orlando, let's say worst scenario, right at traffic hour, you're going to lose probably 30,000, 40,000 people.
Because as I think I told you in the last program we did, when I was young, I really built a lot of rockets, more of which turned out to be bombs than rockets.
They generally blew up.
I think I told you, I used to spend hours and hours and hours breaking blue-tip, Ohio blue-tip match stuff.
Yeah, the first rocket that I built, the very first one I ever launched, I was 12 years old, and I launched it out of the backyard, and it left the backyard about 3,500 miles an hour.
You glue it on the board, punch a hole through the center of it, put a 36-inch-long piece of wood strip on it, screw two little eyelets on each end, like gun sights, mark 500 feet from the pad to where you're standing so you get the cosine tangent of one on the table trigonometry, and you take a stopwatch, and you look at the eyelets, and you track the rocket until it gets to its high point, high point on apogee.
Turn around, look at its protractor, take your degrees, put it back on the trigonometry table, and there's your altitude.
Well, I guess I had enough foresight because I lived in, at that time, I called the airport and I knew the flight schedules and timetables where everybody was in that particular area I was at.
And I'd plot out their little flight paths and what times they fly.
And there are standard route patterns.
You know, they're off a few minutes, but you've got windows that you can shoot through.
And FAA, every once in a while, would come out there and know what they were looking for.
And so I just plotted out on the map, take out the compass and put it on the two little legged compass thing, not the magnetic compass, but the architectural drawing compass.
Put it on a map and you get your plots on your map where you're at.
You can tell exactly where everybody is at what time.
And you just time yourself and shoot and it comes back down.
It only takes a couple of minutes to get it up and get it back down.
He's actually a rocket scientist, and the story I am going to have him tell here in a moment is one that if you didn't understand his credentials, would stretch your credulity.
It concerns an area that I'm adjacent to here out in the middle of the desert.
A Strange Universe once said about me, my neighbors here are lizards and scorpions and stuff like that.
What happened was while I was out in this huge farm area with these cow fields, these cows would come up, and while I'd be working in the bottom of this big dugout area, the cows would all line up and look down in the hole at me.
And it's like working in a surgery room with all these doctors looking over at you.
So they'd see me.
They were smart, too, because if I'd walk out of there, they'd all turn around and walk back a good ways, knowing that something's going to fly out of there.
In 1973, AAAS, the American Association for Advancement of Science, wrote a book called The Future in Energy, and they talked all about electromagnetic fusion containment in the Soviet reactors, the breed of Maka reactors.
See, not only did I have the financial help, I also had this big state-of-the-art machine shop.
I had other machinists around me, but then with the funding, I could hire other machine shops, subcontracts up off-the-shelf equipment and materials, which was everywhere at that time that we could use.
So it was a collective effort, but it got even more crowded, I guess, because the congressman brought in a person who functioned like a project manager, and this was a retired Air Force general at the time named Curtis LeNay.
And if you look in the back of his autobiography book called Iron Eagle and flip to the back of it, you will see that his parents were residing in a convalescent care facility in Mount Vernon, Ohio at the same exact time years I was building this rocket.
And that's a direct tie-in because my mother was an LPN, a licensed practical nurse, and she was the personal caregiver to LeMay's parents.
So with that going on, and he had learned about me, and then the congressman knew about LeMay's parents being his destiny.
He knew LeMay.
He asked LeMay if he'd be interested in helping out with this thing.
And since he had listened to my mother for a couple years on me, he agreed to, and that's how this whole thing happened.
It just, you know, circumstance come together.
So LeMay was quite helpful because of his former position of being a SAC commander and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and he was quite helpful in obtaining fuels and things that we needed, which wasn't easy to get.
So what happened, though, when he entered the project, there was a whole shift to change.
The Air Force showed up in force, and I was allowed to work on it and do everything I needed.
And they were very helpful.
Everybody was extremely helpful.
All kinds of materials and support and aid was coming and everything from personnel to supplies to everything.
So the reason why they wanted to see if this thing would work.
So it was in my shop, and I was allowed to work on it all the time.
So it became the only thing we had to do, though, or I had to agree to, was we had to stop letting the press in to photograph although I did get some neat I was on the front page of Mount Vernon News standing alongside of it I take it you've got photographs of it oh yeah there's not there's all kinds of newspaper stories on it I've got a lot of people seen them but the technology that you were developing specifically with the with the drive the engine it was a little bit different and
But, you know, it's not like I invented this.
Far from it.
There are 60 engines catalogued in NASA right now in Huntsville, Alabama, at the Marshall Space Flight Center in the Advanced Research Program that can get you off this planet.
They have had these things catalogued for decades and decades.
The two engines that you're familiar with is a solid rocket propellant and a liquid fuel.
Warned by Braun was an extremely good salesman in that area, and that's what we bought into.
We've been there ever since.
But there are 57 other engines, and I just picked one of the other 57 to build.
That's all.
It's just that simple.
You know, no big deal.
And so I just decided, I thought that the one that I could do was the electromagnetic fusion.
Now, the problem is containing the field, and that's where I did run into problems.
I ran into mathematical problems because you have to build a mathematical algorithm models to perpetuate these fields.
And it got difficult because, see, this is 1968, 67, 69, and there are no laptop computers, no CD-ROMs, no hard drives, no faxes, no modems, no cellular phones, no pages, no beepers, none of this stuff.
All I got to work with is pencil, paper, and chalkboards and a thing called a slide ruler.
So they sent me to, we put the thing on a and trailer as a lowboy and my dad drove the thing down to he and I drove it down to Wright Parris and Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.
Yeah, they are wearing mirror sunglasses like the colonel would say.
They'd be in dark suits, mirror sunglasses.
Sure enough, they were.
Except for one guy, the older guy, got off and dressed in kind of like a khaki outfit, looked like Marlon Perkins.
And I recognized him from the very beginning because Warner Bon Braun had told me some interesting stories about Peanut Monday and how everything went on over there and how Operation Paperclip brought them all in.
He also, let me look at this newspaper story right here.
On May, let's get these two backwards.
May 24th, 1984.
No, May 25th, 1984, Dr. Art Rudolph was deported back to Munich, Germany, where he died in prison.
He was sent there by the authorities because he was a Gestapo Nazi and had killed hundreds of thousands of Czechoslovakian Jews at Metalworks in Pina Monday when they were building the V-2s.
All right, back now to David Adair, who built a rocket as a youngster, and then actually built a fusion rocket, a fusion-powered rocket that a congressman came up with money for him to build, you know, get the parts and do the work.
And then he made a connection in the Air Force with General LeMay.
And he took this rocket, and they transported him from Wright Pat down to White Sands, where he's unloading the rocket.
And here comes this black airplane, which lands.
And that's kind of where we are right now.
I just got a fax from Stan in Los Angeles who says, all right, in 1980, ABC World News announced that TRW was awarded a contract way back then to build a fusion engine.
I had no idea.
Anyway, so here we are at White Sands, and here comes this German fellow getting off the plane, this black, unmarked, no doubt, plane, who was, again, who was he?
So anyway, he was there, and he came over and he looked at me and said, I asked him who he was, and he gave me a different name, like Henry something.
I thought Boyd.
This guy's got a German accent, blue eyes, you know, and he's got a name Henry.
Oh, well.
So I knew who he was because I'd seen a picture of him that Mont Brown showed me.
So he wanted to look at the engine and the rocket.
I said, sure, go ahead.
So he looked in there and kind of got him a little upset.
But I leaned over his head and told him, in proportional size, if everything works right, this has about 10,000 times the power you have 1 Saturn V engines, Dr. Rudolph.
Oh, he jumped up.
He got real upset about that and asked me who I was.
And I said, just a kid that flies rockets in a cattle field.
So anyway, we got the thing set up and it launched.
But before we launched, he made me set coordinates on this thing which would take it, bring it down.
See, we could have went straight up and straight down and come right back into testing.
They're not like a conventional rocket engine where you have liquid fuel, solid propellant, or whatever, which is slow-burning oxidants and they burn off.
They start and then they build up speed, and so they take off rather slow, but build up tremendous speeds rather quickly.
And the reason why these engines really aren't designed for in-earth orbit launching or surface launching, they're really designed for orbital launches so that you're not affected by the gravitational field so much because they have such tremendous acceleration power.
Yeah, I was sitting there, and at first everyone thought it exploded because also the thing is that the exhaust on it is not like your standard orange or blue flames there.
It's like a welder's ark.
It rides the sun.
So just imagine a streak of lightning just gone into space.
That's what we saw, like a streak of lightning.
And they kind of assumed it just exploded.
It was just fragments burning upward.
But then a few minutes later, Red phone rings and it's NORAD, and they want to know what's going on because they said a rocket blew up down here.
I said, no, I don't think so.
They said that we've got it at, we're tracking it.
And they said, do you know where it's going?
They said, yeah, if it's on course.
And they said, it's on course.
So it's going exactly where it's supposed to be going.
And by the way, for anybody who doubts that, we have on my website a picture of the so-called non-existent Area 51 taken by, I think, a Russian satellite.
But it is indeed a picture of Area 51, and you can see the three big hangars that David's talking about right now.
And the interesting thing, I was wondering, what device would you use to drop such a load of concrete like this floor, plus whatever you have on the top of it?
I mean, I've got, well, I'm going to be modest here.
Jeez, I had a Wright flyer, like Orvin Wilbur Wright, pulled up next to a 747.
The power differential and the complexity is so diverse, but they both work in the same principle of flight.
So my engine was about the size of a watermelon.
This thing is about the size of a school bus or a Greyhound bus.
It was huge, and I'm going, and I was a little disappointed.
I thought I was kind of smirked, smug a little bit.
I thought I was kind of getting jump on people.
But obviously I wasn't because here they had this thing sitting there, and it was just tremendous power, but it had been damaged, had tremendous damage area in the sky.
I would, you know what it'd be fun to get some faxes from New York City?
Those listening to WABC, if you're out there listening.
My fax number is 702.
Well, he just said it.
702-727-8499.
We are going to get the lines open at the top of the hour, maybe even before, and I am going to reserve the east of the Rockies line for the listeners of WABC in New York celebrating their first night.
Ha ha.
All right, back now to David Adair, and here you are below this middle hangar at Area 51 or Dreamland, and you're in a special room, and they uncover this engine or this thing.
I guess it's an engine, and it's partially damaged.
So now you've got to conclude one of two things.
Either we have manufactured this, it's ours, and they're showing it to you because you have discovered a similar technology or used similar technology, or it's from elsewhere.
I mean, when you look at the saying, what do you conclude?
Two big round stairs with all this tremendous piping, type ducking all through it.
What that was, mine was similar in nature, but boy, this thing was just so radically different.
Those I would assume were more like twin particle accelerators, which they would accelerate the mass and then they would.
The thing had a figure-eight pattern to it, so it looked like they were converging the power into a figure-eight pattern, which would make a lot of sense.
It would give you an infinity loop.
And then now that infinity loop would allow you to create the electromagnetic field you need and be a great way to sustain it, which, quite frankly, that was a great day for me because I figured it was like showing you a test, the answers to the test.
And I went, cool, this will work.
So then I had to ask them, I thought, hey, guys, if we have this engine, you know, we're about to launch a Power 14.
It's 1971.
And I said, why are we using liquid fuel engines when you guys got this thing?
And they're going, well, it's still pretty much experimental, son.
And you can tell by the damage it's had, we're having some problems with it.
And that's the truth we brought in here.
We'd like to have your opinion on it.
And I went, well, where's the guys that built the thing?
Well, they're not here right now.
They're on vacation.
And I'm sitting there, well, you've got to remember I'm a child.
And so they're going to talk to you like one.
So I sat there going, well, they leave you any notes.
And they said, well, no, but we'd like your opinion on it if you'd walk over and take a look at it.
You want to help your country, don't you, son?
And I went, yes, sir.
I listened to Anita Bryant.
And I did.
I really did.
But I knew something wasn't right.
It just didn't feel right because I was looking at the alloids and going, I have never seen anything like that in my life.
And already I've seen a facility that seemed a little bit ahead of the true value hardware.
So I'm going, oh man, what have they got going here?
And this thing had something running down its side, which there was a lot of devices or, I don't know what they were, contraptions on this thing.
I guess they were some kind of interface or couplings for mass flows of the particle accelerator chambers.
But there was a lot of devices on there I didn't recognize.
And there was this one thing in particular running down its side, which the only way I can describe it, it looks like gills of a fish.
Gills of a fish.
Right, and it's like baffles, some kind of baffling system.
How could there be a full silhouette of me on the engine?
So I backed off, and it dissipates.
And I got closer, and it becomes really crisp.
And then I moved down alongside it, and guess what?
The shadow is about a half-second behind you.
And I go, I went, oh, God, heat-sensitive recognition alloy.
I didn't even know we had such a thing.
So I told him I need to crawl up on top of it, and he said, fine.
commitment women women heat sensitive recognition alloy of what you're telling me is that it has your shadow And reflecting it into a pattern that lagged your movement a little bit?
Sure, because I moved and it would have to focus once you get in front of it, so you've got a little bit of a tenth of a second leg.
Which is kind of fun.
I was waving my arms in front of it, and I looked over at them, and they were frowning a little bit, because I guess they figured I'd have caught on to something already.
And I'm going, this is cool.
And so anyway, when I grabbed hold of these panels, that was the second thing that was other than, well, it's a third thing.
First thing I noticed is no seams, lines, wells, marks, nothing.
It looked like it grew.
Then you've got this weird shadow pattern on it.
And next thing happened, when I grabbed hold of the baffle thing to pull myself up, that's where it's got interesting.
These baffles type things, they're translucent somewhat.
And they're about an inch thick.
and when you grab hold of them, wherever your skin is touching it, this really neat swirl-looking pattern would run through the alloy and radiate away from you.
And it kind of looked like a, you know how you It's like a motion wave.
Remember that motion wave machine people said on desk that goes back and forth?
I mean, a lot of us have sort of done the same slow, except for us it's been a slow burn through Watergate, through so many disappointments, and people have become so cynical.
Yeah, it all came clear because when a pilot sits down in this thing, he will strap in, he or it or whatever or whoever will strap in this thing, and his brain pattern will merge with the synaptic firing order of that engine, and probably the spacecraft has its own system.
So all three of them are independent ascension entities of their own, but yet a symbiotic community working in harmony with each other.
We're going to get you on the air, and we're going to begin taking calls and let you question David.
The Now look, I'm going to do something a little different tonight because it is the first night.
The first night of WABC New York.
So I am restricting two lines to the listeners of WABC New York.
They are my East of the Rockies line.
Toll-free.
It's 1-800-825-5033.
1-800-825-5033.
Or a direct dial line, area code 702-727-1222.
And I'm going to try as hard as I can.
Everybody else, please don't call those lines.
Let the listeners of WABC in New York call them as we celebrate their joining the network.
Or I guess we're joining them.
Anyway, we're meshed or something.
So the other number, the two numbers for WABC listeners exclusively over the next hour, 702, the area code, 702-727-1222, or the toll-free line, east of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
All right, tomorrow night, we're going to have a very interesting gentleman here who's going to talk about what's going on with our sun.
And there are some rather apocalyptic possibilities, I'm afraid.
That'll be interesting.
Thursday night, we're going to have Dr. Michio Kaku from New York City University, who is a physics professor.
He will be here talking about time travel and many of the things that I think David Adair is alluding to with respect to the engine he got to see at Area 51.
And then Friday night, Saturday morning, Whitley Streeber is going to be here, author of Communion and much more.
And we're going to try to get to do what we didn't get to do the other day after this incredible event in the Northwest.
Something streaking across the skies of Seattle, Vancouver, and points east.
NORAD said it went down in the Pacific, whatever it was.
That's the story.
But it obviously did not go down in the Pacific.
Or else NORAD was not capable of tracking what so many thousands of you saw.
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i got out of there with help of lamai it's quiet for the I spent my summer vacation.
So next year I graduated from high school, and I was getting ready to go to OSU, Ohio State University, and theoretical astrophysics, and I never made it because a guy from DOD stepped up in my graduation line, handed me a letter, and opened it up and said, greetings.
It's June 10th, 1972.
I'm drafted on the spot.
And they came and got me, and they just took me.
And I ended up finally ends up spending, after we compromised, 10 years in the United States Navy.
So I want to expose you to the public this hour, and also I want to get some calls from New York and New Jersey and Connecticut, you know, probably all over the Northeast.
I cannot tell you how delighted I am to hear you on.
I spent some time recently in the Nevada area, and I heard your show, and I swear to God, I was almost praying that, boy, I wish I could hear this in New York.
John, I want to remember you as the first caller I've had from WABC.
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It's such an honor to be your first caller.
And I've got to tell you, I've been listening to your show since you came on tonight, and I heard you talking earlier about how you said you're intimidated to be on WABC.
Listen, you have nothing to be intimidated about.
I've been around for a long time, and this station, WABC, has gone so downhill in the last 20 years, and it is so great that I think you are going to help rebuild this station.
They got all these David Duke types, like this guy, Steve Malzberg, on the station, who are just terrible.
Well, actually, you know, a lot of people, they were worried that they were going to get a gift this time slot to Steve Malzberg, but a lot of people protested.
Well, all right, that's an awfully diverse question.
Sorry, I'm going to ignore B and go for A. He's right about that.
I mean, the kind of engine that you're talking about, if it really was under control, would produce the kind of cars that they have in the Jetsons, right?
Now, I don't know whether they're going to fold up into a briefcase like Tori's guy and walk off with it, but it's a different technological problem.
But the way they're flying around, there's a machine right now being made by a guy named Mueller.
And his Moeller machine is very similar to a Jetsons-type craft.
And he is so far along with it that the FAA is trying to figure out how to determine a license for him because a thing can fly, land, pull into, he did a demonstration, pulled into a driveway at a McDonald's, drove off into a parking lot, tuck off, and flew away.
Now, is it a DMB license or is it an FAA license?
See, there's all kinds of confusion here.
But yeah, we're closing in on that type of technology.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with David Adair.
Hello.
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Hello, this is Vince in Chicago.
Hey, Vince.
Mr. Adair, this is quite a shocking story.
I know you firsthand have seen the black operations over there at Area 51, and I'm a little shocked and uncomfortable with the idea of a former Nazi running around on a black DC-9 having anything to do with the black operations over there.
You know, it kind of reminds me of one of the stories that Richard Hoagland was talking about on September 12th of this year when he showed the photo of the Mars Pathfinder.
And on a plaque on the Pathfinder, there was a swastika and a skull and the Palmar Observatory.
Anyway, I just have to say, I didn't catch your whole guest's talk tonight, but I just have to say, of all the people that I have heard give sort of their testimonial to what we all know and have known for a long time, at least people like myself, is true, he is probably the most credible-sounding authority that, or I witnessed.
Colonel Corso claims and wrote a book called The Day After Roswell, and he claims I've interviewed him several times.
I heard you say, oh, yes.
And he introduced, he says, a lot of technology from a crash at Roswell into American private sector industry that accounts for a lot of what we have now, fiber optics and the transistor and a whole bunch of things.
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I just have to ask you, Art, are you familiar with a woman?
She was a channeler, and she has been channeling messages similar to what your guest the other night was talking about, the intuitive communication process.
I believe that's definitely going on with mass numbers in our population around the globe, so that when we do more than likely reach that electromagnetic zero that Greg Braden was talking the other day, so that they can facilitate this change.
David, I had Greg Braden on, brilliant guy, and he contends, and tomorrow night's guest is going to wind right into what he was talking about, that the Earth's magnetic field, and he can document it, is less by a factor of, well, if it was a 10 a few thousand years ago, it's 1.5 now, and that we're approaching a zero point, a center point, and that eventually we'll simply stop.
There will not be any gravity whatsoever, and then there will be a pole reversal.
Yeah, if you can get across to the public, or if the public can get across to the government a feeling of, I know this is a word not used very much where it's called forgiveness.
But if the government would do a full disclosure, which at the time they made those decisions, they thought they were making the best decisions at that time.
That if they would disclose, and we're all, you know, hey, we'll forgive you.
We'll go on and deal with this information and let's share it and get it out here and work with it and not be vindictive about it if they do an honest full disclosure on their part.
I think they're looking for a way out.
You know, the question I had for the doctors was, why do you guys let this hearing happen?
There's no reason for you guys to let Dr. Greer and Cece have this hearing unless you guys are being pushed by something.
We may still have time We might still get by Every time I think about it I want to know Do you think our government really is doing everything David says and more?
Imagine, that was how many years ago?
And if they were doing that then, what do you think they might be doing now?
By the way, in addition to my fax number, you can email me at Art Bell.
I mean, you know, we hear about crashes of things re-entering, things landing, stories from South America, stories from Mexico where UFOs are so common.
In fact, they've had airliner collisions in Mexico.
I mean, incredible stories.
So it may well be that things have come down over the years, not just at Roswell, but all over the world.
Now you're going to be able to start it and just tape me, and it'll be as Solid as a rock.
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I'm a big fan of the Sea Crane Company.
In fact, they have my RealTalk right now, and they're trying to get me an outside antenna hookup so that I can get you better on either of those two stations.
Ryan, you've got the industrial espionage on the other side, where in order for us to keep our competitive edge planet-wide, there are some things we just cannot let out.
And the industrial-military complex triad is so tight, it's hard to unravel one side without undoing the other.
We have evidence that our government for some time has been in collusion with this life in one way or the other, that we have technology from it, you know, the whole thing.
Yeah, because there is a certain technology or certain knowledge that is intrinsic throughout all of society.
People have the right to know this.
The fact that you've made contact with an alien life form of another planet, intelligent life, you do not have that right to hold that information.
It is wrong because it affects every single person On the planet, therefore, they should know about it.
Good or bad, whatever, we'll experience it together.
But it's a universal thing that involves everyone.
If it was a smaller piece of information where it's like a patentable thing or something we can make a project or a widget with, that's a different story.
But when you hit something that's major Earth-related human being across the board, it affects everybody, you don't have that right to hold that information.
I told him that in area, well, Green Lake, I told him, I said, you know, you guys don't have the right to hold this back.
David recounted that when he looked more deeply inside of the engine and around it, he saw some incredible things that confirmed his suspicions that there was no way it could be of terrestrial origin.
Would you elaborate a bit on what you might have seen that said that to you, aside from the engine?
Are you not worried that one of these days, you know, there's going to be a knock on your door and a couple guys in suits there and they're going to say, Mr. Adair, come with us.
Hey, like I said, if they keep it contained to themselves, it's their personal preference, and they don't interfere with me or any of my thought processes during my normal course of daily life and living, that is their business.
Yeah, with the Pierre Lab in New Jersey with research done with McDonnell Douglas on the F-22, they're trying to incorporate now their symbiotic technology where the craft could read the thoughts of the pilot.
But also they ran into an interesting problem there, alright?
They're having to do a reversal with the system.
Sometimes they have to screen the pilot's thoughts away from the craft.
The private contractor is housed at the Johns Hopkins Hospital.
This is a dangerous thing when they play words in the space arena.
They say they're privatizing the space program.
That's not the word you want.
You want commercializing.
When they privatize, you get this situation.
This private contractor that receives the command signals from the Hubble telescope, the images, does not have to show you what he sees for six months.
Unacceptable.
And that's the way the status quo is right now.
So I believe in real time, like the Viking 76, when it lands there, we see it live, uncut, not delayed, and we see it together.
The other thing she talked about, that's the National Technology Transfer Center of NASA.
Okay, where do you think the headquarters of that should be?
We don't have any working prototypes that I'm aware of right now.
But the theory on the magnetic propulsion systems, that was one of the 60 engines I talked about earlier that NASA has identified we could use and just need to build them.
Well, the big semi-block, you already said, anti-gravity.
To get an anti-gravity field right now, as far as I know, there is no such thing as anti-gravity available to 3D science.
If it was, we wouldn't be using rocket engines.
A lot of people say it exists.
Well, just give me a phone call.
We'll make money.
So that's one of the big stumbling blocks, is that we haven't been able to master the anti-gravity effect yet, at least on a mass scale where we use a big prototype engine like that.
Mr. Adair, I would hope I have two things for you, sir.
Number one, I would hope that before you become deceased, that you would consider very strongly doing an autobiography of your experience and of your life.
Number two, sir, just based on what you were saying, when you touched that device out there and the impulses or whatever that took place when you touched it, I get the gut feeling once you're on the inside there, sir, that you must have been having some things that transport you telepathically or whatever.
I would love to be able to sit down and talk with you.
It's not just a propulsion system, it's a power plant, which one form of this type of energy could take the form of a small reactor the size of a standard office desk that could supply all the power to New York City on a chunk of field the size of your thumbnail for 100 years.
That's the type of fusion reaction that you could have in these fusion reactors.
But on the other side, it can be an outrageous propulsion system, and it can solve a riddle.
I'm sure this engine could do it.
You could go millions of times faster than the speed of light without breaking the speed of light.
In linear propulsion, it would, because the minute that you have that kind of fusion matter coming out the exhaust area, just the old Newtonian laws will take over for every action.
There's an ostental reaction.
Since the matter is leaving at the speed of light out the exit port at a specific impulse of the engine, which is the orifice area, in a matter of short time, you should be able to catch up to that velocity.
It would reach, or almost reach the speed of light, which it wouldn't actually reach, because my understanding of physics is if you actually reach the speed of light, you would become infinite.
No, not if you're in deep space, only if you're in an environmental area where you would run into a temperature problem, like passing through a sun.
But the interesting thing about that, though, that's still keep in mind, this is all still theoretical because we've never been able to get anything to do this yet.
But in theory, that craft should reach almost the speed of light, which it would be so much of a small difference, you wouldn't be able to perceive it.
But what would happen on the outside, the craft itself would become basically an energy particle.
And if that happens, all right, you could have a spacecraft the size of an aircraft carrier pass right through you, through your house, out the planet, and keep getting it and not disturb you.
And yet, inside the spacecraft, it would be relative to the occupants and they wouldn't know any difference.
Wow.
It's very possible for a vehicle to be traveling that fast pass right to a planet.
That's why when you're deaccelerating, your navigation is extremely important that you don't start rematerializing inside a sun or a planet.
Yes, Mr. Adair, earlier in the program, did I misunderstand you, or did you say that the aircraft you called the Vomit Comet flew up to like 90,000 feet?
No, no, I said, did I say 90,000?
Yeah.
I thought that's what you said.
No, you'll get, maybe I got confused in a second.
You'll get 90 seconds of free fall.
Right, right.
And no, no, that'd be a dad to space this about.
No, if I said that indeed, then I made an error.
I've got time and measurement there confused.
90 seconds of free fall.
I'm curious to that effect because I have performed maintenance on that very aircraft.
You know, I'm not going to go further with that, except to say this.
Most of the astronauts, the majority of astronauts, have had, you know, whether or not you believe the story he just told, have had severe marital, mental, and just about every kind of breakdown type trouble you could imagine, David.
There hasn't been anyone that's been in space that has not had some kind of personal, spiritual some kind of event that occurred to them that has, when they come back, they all come back a little different.
Right, and it varies in individuals, but there's not a single one of them that's been out there and has not been moved by it, and they all will tell you that.
All right, and we'll give that again before the end of the program.
So if you want to know more, there is one way to know more, or you can wait for the movie.
From the high desert, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
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This is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nine.
I wanted to ask him about this article that I got some years ago from the Dallas Public Library here, and I heard about it over shortwave.
It was two articles in June and July.
It was in Mechanics Illustrated, June and July 1957.
I want to get this out there for other people to look at.
The first article was kind of intriguing because it was written by a G. Harry Stein, who it says here was Chief Navy Range Operations at White Sands Proving Grounds.
Well, I just got through talking about anti-gravity or magnetic drive a few minutes ago.
And this article, I think, has great relevance to that.
The title of it is Anti-Gravity, Power of the Future.
And let me just read a little quotes here.
It talks about how recent discoveries that indicated the spaceship of the future may be powered using anti-gravity.
Mentioned a couple scientists, Sir William Crookes and Townsend T. Brown.
And talked specifically about Townsend T. Brown in one of his experiments where he used two disc airfoils.
I'll just quote it here exactly.
Rumors have been circulating that scientists have built disc airfoils two feet in diameter incorporating a variation of the simple two-plate electrical condenser, which charged to a potential of 50,000 volts, has achieved a speed of 17 feet per second with a total energy output of 50 watts.
A three-foot diameter disc airfoil charged to 150 kilovolts turned out such an amazing performance, the whole thing was immediately classified.
And I can have to wonder if that's where things lie today.
The Magnetic Pulse Propulsion Laboratory, which is headquartered here in San Diego, has had a contract with the DOD for doing work out at Area 51 for the last 12 years.
They're classified work, but they have been doing work out there.
But I was going to ask David, my father was one of the contributing editors for the Amazing Stories magazine.
And I remember the agent sitting in our living room questioning my dad about where he had gotten some of the information for the articles he'd written.
But he was a member of the Pasadena Toastmasters Club, and Von Braun was a member too.
And they hit it off, and at least once a month, he was over at our house having dinner.
And I distinctly remember him being very vocal about the work that was going on at the facility in Nevada was wrong.
Matter of fact, I guess he might have set me in the same path for the rest of my life.
See, the type of research work you've done there where it's okay to do research work within your own realm of science, but when you are privy to something from another planet, I mean, there's a moral issue here.
And you just morally don't have the right to lock that up for any one country on the planet, and everyone in the entire world should be privy to it.
Next question was, you were talking about the engine and the vehicle and the people, saying that it was an ascension beings that were, the whole thing was kind of a collective connected together type thing.
In other words, that the engine that he examined, the power plant that he examined, was symbiotically run just the way modern jets are beginning to be symbiotically run by their pilots.
Am I give you a little hint about where that technology began?
Now, a lot of things have to happen for your brain, for that red light to come on, your brain to process the information, your foot to begin to move from the accelerator to the brake.
A lot of things have to happen before that brake is hit.
And there's a little meter that would show what your reaction time was.
Now, if instead of that lash-up, you had something that was symbiotic, and all you had to do was think stop when the red light came on, it would be very difficult to measure the time interval before you hit the brake mentally.
And so I can imagine at the speeds and the kind of maneuverability that such a craft would have, a symbiotic relationship would be absolutely necessary.
And maybe if we just keep pushing, there's a fellow that I'm working with who is a Washington lobbyist who's trying to get things going in Washington and has worked with Dr. Greer.
And they're making some very serious efforts now.
So maybe.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with David Adair and Art Bell.
Hello.
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I was wondering if some of the thought control techniques like Major Ed Dames uses with remote viewing, if that type of thing could be used to give better control, like with these pilots that can't control the emotions or whatever, to give them better control.
I would imagine that pilots who are being introduced to the symbiotic method of control of modern high-performance jets are very carefully screened and trained.
We kind of touched on that a little bit earlier.
Now, whether it would move into a discipline that would include remote viewing, no, I doubt it.
But some of the disciplines they might have to go through might be similar.
The only thing that I do know is required, even the pilots today, is that they have to learn to compartment minimize really well.
In other words, everything that they ever think of is going on in life, they can put it in a compartment, close the door, and it never comes back up into their conscious thoughts.
So when they sit down in a craft, they are totally focused at all times on what they're doing, and they never let their mind stray, not even for a second.
The material that it looked like it was made of, it was strange.
Some parts of it were so rigid that I could stand on it.
There was no give of any kind like any alloyed steel.
There were other parts that were interwoven with the hard parts that had a soft, pliable texture, very similar to like a, I don't know if you know how a dolphin feels, but it feels like a dolphin.
But what was interesting is that the way they were coupled together, it would just, you couldn't hardly see a dividing line between it, where you'd have a hard part and a soft part.
Well, nanotechnology is the promise of, ultimately, of microscopic or sub-microscopic machines capable of creating and duplicating and replicating themselves until finally you end up with what is ordered.
In other words, like the replicator from Star Trek.