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	Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	From the high desert and the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening or a good morning as the case may be across all these many prolific time zones.
	Stretching from way out in the Pacific, the Tahitian and Hawaiian island chains, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the pole, and worldwide on the old internet, This is Coast to Coast AM, and I'm Art Bell.
	Great to be here.
	And tonight is all yours.
	It's gonna be open lines all the way through.
	No doubt we'll get into some kind of trouble.
	Lots to talk about.
	We'll get to that in a minute.
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	Glad to have you on board.
	Now, let me begin with Danion Brinkley.
	I got a call from Danion earlier today and we talked for about a half hour.
	Guess what, folks?
	It looks like Danion is going to make it.
	It is a miracle?
	Question mark?
	Here's where we stand.
	The three aneurysms that he has have all ceased bleeding.
	All three.
	The blood clots remain, but the signs are that they are dissolving.
	Now let me tell you something.
	Danion was a dead man when he got there.
	Again, Danion had 10 to 15 clots, even as these things began to stop bleeding.
	His brain was full of blood.
	And he had 10 to 15 clots.
	Now, there are indications those clots are dissolving, so far, harmlessly.
	Now, this doesn't mean he's out of the woods.
	But, I'll tell you, he sounded pretty good.
	Next couple, he's gonna be, they tell him he'll be in the hospital for another week.
	And they're going to have to readjust his medication so this doesn't occur again because the chances of it occurring again once it's happened are unfortunately better.
	However, he's going to be out of the hospital, if everything continues as it is, in a week.
	Off the critical list.
	And I'm telling you, And he's telling you, and we'll tell you, you'll hear from him.
	I said, Danion, when are you going to bed?
	And he said, around 2.30 or something in the morning.
	He said, they come wake me up every two hours to see if I'm asleep.
	So it looks like Danion is going to make it, and he wants to thank you, and I want to thank you.
	He says it's the power of prayer that did it.
	He said he could feel it all around him.
	I know to some people it sounds hokey, but he said it was like a blue aura all around him.
	And I differ only a little bit from how Danion feels about it because I'm not sure.
	I absolutely have no question in my mind the power of prayer is real.
	I really have no question in my mind the power of prayer is real.
	I'll get myself in trouble, I'm sure, by saying I don't know why.
	CNN, interestingly, coincidentally, maybe not, over the last several days has been running a story on the power of prayer.
	And they interviewed a physician, and it's widely known that somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of the time, placebo pills work.
	In other words, if you take a placebo and you believe it to be good medicine that's going to cure your ill, whatever your ill is, then 70 to 90 percent of the time you get better.
	Even though you're taking nothing but, you know, sugar or whatever kind of a substitute to something or another they'd be giving you that is actually medically negligible or has zero value, that's a placebo.
	And this doctor on CNN was talking about the belief, faith, That the key appears to be faith.
	Now, so I'm not so sure, you know, I'm not positive that I put the name God to it.
	I think our brains have powers that we don't understand, both in being able to heal ourselves and others.
	And Daniel, when he was about to die, did a very interesting thing.
	He was in a Intensive care ward with, you know, a whole bunch of other people.
	He said, you got to get me out of here.
	He said, people all around me are dying.
	And he has a lot of compassion for those who are dying, but he was himself dying.
	And he was trying to go into an internal mode of concentration to go to work on himself.
	And he couldn't do it because, as you know, Danny in here is And feels everything around him.
	So he got himself in a private room in intensive care.
	He is one of the most remarkable people that I've ever known in my whole life.
	So in the next day or two, if he happens to be up at the hour that I'm on the air, I will get Daniel, we'll get Daniel on the air and I'll let you listen for yourself.
	Boy, what a remarkable man.
	And it might bear a little discussion on the power of prayer.
	Personally, I don't make the automatic leap, I believe, in the power of prayer, but I'm not sure why it works.
	And I know I'm going to get lectured until the cows come home about that one.
	Well, it works because God, hear this, or it answers questions.
	No, answers prayers.
	Well, I would enjoy that to be true.
	I'm simply not absolutely positive it's true.
	And I'm that way with most things.
	It haunts me.
	And those who have faith, I have a great deal of respect for.
	Faith, meaning or defined as something that you absolutely believe in, though you cannot prove.
	Anyway, there you are.
	That's good news, and Danion sounded a lot better.
	Not out of the woods, because a clot could still let go that would give him a stroke and kill him, but the doctors are not operating, and they are suggesting that they're seeing a miracle.
	You tell me.
	Okay, so that's your update on Danion.
	You may hear from him in the next couple of days.
	I laughed when he said, you know, they keep coming in every two hours to wake you up and make sure you're asleep.
	Not dead, I guess.
	I don't know.
	Well, I got a really pleasant surprise earlier today.
	Do you remember, on top of Danny, do you remember yesterday I told you that my book, The Quickening, I'm so excited, debuted at number 22 on the non-fiction hardcover bestseller list?
	Well it sure did, and then my publisher looked a little further and they've got a business bestseller list as well, New York Times business bestseller list, and it debuted as number six.
	Number six!
	In the first week, number six!
	Blew me away!
	Although I see why, I understand why.
	The full title on the front of my book is The Quickening.
	Today's trends, tomorrow's world.
	And as you well know, part of that is the environment and economics business.
	And so I see how it ended up here.
	But what a shock!
	What a shock!
	First week out nationally.
	Number six.
	Debuts number six on the business bestseller list.
	I'm so proud I could burst.
	I can't believe it.
	So thank you all.
	That is not really the thrust of the book, but of course I did cover that in a couple of chapters, The Economics.
	You can get that book now, my book, anywhere in the country.
	Just go into any bookstore and ask for The Quickening by Art Bell.
	It's selling like crazy.
	Amazing.
	It is amazing.
	It's like having a baby.
	And it's like watching your baby grow up.
	On the other side of the coin, an awful lot of the other things in that book are obviously underway right now.
	And we can talk about that if you want.
	I got a very, very interesting call, and I will not embarrass the lady, who must have been a very, very nice lady.
	I got a fax, an urgent fax earlier today.
	From a brokerage firm.
	And I won't even tell you where.
	A major brokerage firm.
	And this man said, you've got to help me out.
	He said, I've got a client who has ordered me to find out how I can buy, and I can't find the initials for it, but she absolutely says she will She will not settle for anything but buying Art Bell's stock.
	Because she says it's gone up 700% and it's about to split.
	And I must find out where I can buy this for her immediately.
	Flash importance.
	So I called him back and I said, is your client perhaps a very nice, very old rich lady?
	And he said, yeah, how'd you know?
	I said, well, I said, have you ever heard of the rogue market?
	And he said, no.
	And I said, it's not the real stock market, sir.
	And then I explained what the rogue market was to him.
	That like two or three thousand personalities, public figures, politicians, sports figures, movie stars, talk show hosts, blah, blah, blah.
	They're all in this place called the Rogue Market, and it's exactly like the real stock market, only it's not real.
	Except to the degree that if you do real well, you might win a t-shirt, you know, or something, a coffee cup or something.
	Something like that.
	He laughed.
	The guy about fell on the floor.
	It was several seconds before he recovered, and I'm sure he gave his client a call and said, I'm sorry.
	But you can get your ARPEL stock.
	This is going to be a wild week on the Rogue Market.
	I've had more fun with that.
	This has been really a lot of fun.
	And it turns out in the Rogue Market, I found out about a month ago, there is a section devoted to talk show hosts.
	And they're all the major syndicated talk show hosts in America are in there.
	Rush, Laura, Howard, myself, Oh, I think Bruce Williams, and on and on and on.
	There's a whole bunch of them in there, probably ten, at least.
	And so I've been urging people, yeah, go up to the Rogue Market.
	It's with a link on our page.
	Just click on the Rogue Market, buy our gold stock, it says, or something.
	Keith might have changed it by now.
	And go over to the Rogue Market, he thought, a little forum.
	And they give you 10,000 rogue dollars, fill out another little form, and they give you 5,000 more.
	So you've got 15,000 rogue dollars, and you can go buy stock.
	Then you go to the listings area after you've registered and buy stock.
	And I'm telling you right now, my stock is surely going through the roof.
	And so you can make a lot of money, but the faster you get up there, the better.
	If you wait, Uh, then you're going to be helping somebody else make profit.
	That doesn't mean you won't make profit, but the earlier you get in there, obviously, as more, as massive people pour in, which they're doing because it's going through the roof, you're going to make lots of rogue dollars.
	Anyway, that was sweet.
	And so to that little 79-year-old lady out there, wherever you are, thank you, dear.
	I appreciate your interest.
	And she was just all set to dump her money into ARPEL stock.
	Real money.
	Real money.
	As they say, more in a moment.
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	Looking for the truth?
	You'll find it on Coast to Coast AM with George Norris.
	What's your take on disclosure?
	Do you think it's gonna ever happen?
	I don't think government is going to come out and say, we've been visited, this has been going on.
	What do you think's going on?
	Most people in the United States believe that UFOs are real and the government's covering up something about it.
	So, when they say, well, now that you mention it, that wasn't a weather balloon at Roswell, that was a UFO that came down, people yawn and say, yeah, so what?
	Now, let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	With respect to last night's program, this.
	Hello, Art.
	I don't want to take up much of your time, but I thought you might find this story interesting.
	A little over three years ago, I began going to a tech school to learn about computer repair.
	During my second semester, our class got into digital and analog electronics.
	During the course, we discussed the invention of the transistor and the microchip, and how it revolutionized modern electronics.
	During class, we were told the invention of the microchip was a huge leap in technology, Because before it, there were just large vacuum tubes and transistors.
	I couldn't understand how this large leap took place from tubes to etchings on a silicon to silicon overnight just didn't sit well with me, so I asked my teacher how it occurred.
	His answer was, it just did.
	So after a few days, I went to my first semester electronics teacher and posed the very same question.
	This teacher had worked for NASA in the early days of the Gemini project.
	I thought since he was involved with the early leaps in technology, he'd have some insight as to how the leap occurred.
	When I asked him, he said, it wasn't so much invented as it was deciphered.
	My reply was, huh?
	Deciphered from what?
	I can't say, he said.
	Why not?
	I ask.
	His answer was, look, I could still get into trouble.
	Let's just say that, and I quote here, no one on earth could have made that leap without a little help from above.
	And what do you think, folks?
	He meant God?
	Then he said, you shouldn't worry about it.
	You don't have to understand how or why it happened to understand how it works.
	Trust me.
	With that, he picked up his coffee mug and left the room.
	Since that day, I've done a little research, and I believe this leap was either given to us, or we found it out in the desert.
	Anyway, I hope you find this interesting.
	Keep up the good work.
	Signed, Lance."
	I thought that was particularly interesting.
	Interesting facts.
	Don't you think so?
	A source now says, new tests show the driver in the Paris car that killed Princess Diana had blood alcohol levels three times the legal limit.
	The source, who asked not to be identified, says the post-mortem tests also show Henry Paul had traces of anti-depressant drugs in his system.
	So now we're talking about three times the alcohol level and pills.
	The source says the antidepressants could have boosted the debilitating, which certainly would have, effects of the alcohol Paul consumed before the crash.
	The source says the latest tests confirm earlier tests indicating Paul was drunk at the wheel.
	Well, I told you at the time, that was my guess, that what we were dealing here with for the most part, despite everybody's paparazzi pursuit, was a drunk driver.
	And it looks like that's exactly what it was.
	There's one more item here before the bottom of the error, I guess it is.
	And that is, Apollo Jones, I guess, is dismissing her lawyers.
	It's because of a disagreement, and the reports I've been getting suggest that they want her to settle for three quarters of a million dollars or something.
	And she said, no, she said, what I want is an apology.
	In other words, she wants to clear her name.
	Well, the president may never make that apology.
	Probably won't.
	Well, you know what?
	I say, Paula, right on.
	The lawyers, of course, want their piece of the action and, you know, how can you divide up an apology, right?
	So I say, hang in there, Paula.
	If it's your reputation you want back, then you've got every right to Hang in there.
	Get yourself a new lawyer.
	Somebody who will follow your instructions.
	Makes sense to me anyway.
	Congratulations, Paula.
	Hang in there.
	We'll be right back.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	The Coast to Coast AM concert was held at the San Francisco International Music Center on September 9th, 1997.
	The concert was held at the San Francisco International Music Center on September 9th, 1997.
	Thanks for watching.
	so so
	so so
	time to be fine.
	Every time I think about it, I want to cry.
	With bones in the devil, they'll just keep coming.
	So when will be the time to be young?
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	By the way, I wrote a book called The Quickening, which is now zooming up on the New York Times bestseller list.
	No kidding.
	Nobody's more amazed than me.
	Absolutely amazed.
	Check it out.
	Go into your bookstore, wherever your bookstore is, and ask for The Quickening by Art Bell.
	I think you'll find it a little scary, perhaps, but right on the money, I'm sorry to say.
	Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Ark Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	I'm sure you'll find it a little scary, perhaps, but right on the money, I'm sorry to say.
	All right, one other item here.
	Art, I'm surprised that no one commented on the missing Russian nukes during your Open Line segment last night.
	Well, I bet they will tonight.
	I'm saying that.
	I may have missed it, but I'm telling you, if 100 one-kiloton nuclear warheads being lost doesn't scare you, then you just can't be scared.
	I'm guessing that Ed Dames is already working on this, are you, Ed?
	If he isn't, it certainly qualifies as a project worthy of his talent and other remote viewers as well.
	Maybe we could get enough of General Alexander Levitt's voice without the translator for David Oates to go to work.
	Ooh, that's an idea!
	By the way, David... Well, I better keep that a secret.
	You might also consider interviewing Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, who wrote One Point Safe, the book mentioned in the 60 Minutes segment.
	This is definitely a quickening item.
	No kidding.
	By the way, he says, uh, congratulations on making the New York Times bestseller list.
	Thank you.
	That's, uh, Donald listening to 810 AM KCMO 50,000 Watts of Attitude.
	I always thought that was a great slogan.
	50,000 Watts of Attitude.
	What use, other than terrorism, Would any of us have for a 1 kiloton suitcase nuke?
	And that's what's missing according to Leavitt.
	100 suitcase 1 kiloton nuclear weapons that can be set off by a single individual in 30 minutes.
	According to Reuters.
	I bet there are uses other than terrorism for such a weapon.
	Now what would they be?
	You could play cool fun games at home, you know, and start the clock ticking backward, and then see if, like, when it got down two seconds or one second, you could real quick press the button and stop it.
	You know, if you're into that kind of thing.
	And I don't know, I was trying to think of other uses for a good suitcase nuke.
	You could lower the taxes in your region.
	But that's terrorism.
	What else could you do with it?
	I'm going to give that one a little thought.
	If anybody has any thoughts about what you would do with a one-kiloton nuke in a suitcase, what would you do with it?
	All right.
	Open lines.
	Anything you want to talk about is absolutely fair game.
	I've got more here, but I'll hold it.
	East of the Rockies, you are on the air first up tonight.
	Hello.
	Am I on the air now?
	Oh, yes you are.
	I don't stream calls.
	Now see, you're listening to your radio, saying to yourself, am I really on the air?
	Turn your radio off.
	I have no response then.
	You have no response?
	No.
	Then why'd you call?
	Uh, is this the Art Bell Show?
	Yes!
	I'm telling you to turn your radio off.
	Okay.
	Uh... Come on, turn it off.
	Do you have a number where I can reach you private sometime?
	No, just this one.
	You got something you want to say?
	Say it to everybody.
	Uh, not at this time.
	I'll give you a call later, possibly.
	Thank you.
	That was worthless.
	No, um, look.
	This is an open forum where I don't screen calls, just in case you didn't know.
	I don't screen calls.
	You want to communicate with me privately?
	Write me a letter, send me an email, send me a fax.
	Something like that.
	But, uh, don't call me on the air and say I wanted to say something private to you.
	We don't do that here.
	This is open line, unscreened talk radio.
	You know, it borders at times on insanity on the roll, but, uh, that's what it is, and so you can't, uh, don't just call me up and tell me you need to talk to me privately.
	Uh, hello there on my international line, you're on the air?
	Hello, this is Jim in Vancouver.
	Hi, Jim!
	Hey, I just want to say, wow, what a great bunch of news with that miracle.
	Well, there's a lot of ways you can look at it, but I think it qualifies.
	I think it qualifies.
	Yeah, and I also just wanted to say to the world that I'm experiencing a divine transformation myself.
	Life is beautiful.
	So what are you transferring?
	Oh, just old ways.
	Old ways of living.
	Like what?
	Old habits, you know, like cigarettes.
	You mean you're going back to smoking them?
	No, I'm getting off of them.
	Oh.
	I've been off them for a month, and it's just... Well, the old ways are to smoke.
	I mean, they used to smoke, even the Native Americans smoked peace pipes and stuff, right?
	Yeah, but I think... So I think you've got it backwards.
	The old ways are to smoke.
	But I think that it was a little cleaner back then.
	They weren't smoking the paper.
	And all the chemicals, you know?
	Well, I guess that could be true.
	But I mean, even people who chew raw tobacco supposedly get cancer, right?
	Yeah, that's true too.
	I guess they get it in their mouths.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I just wanted to tell America that I'm experiencing a divine transformation and everybody can receive one.
	How?
	Just by asking and believing.
	Faith.
	Faith.
	That's the word, faith.
	All right, sir.
	Well, that's what the doctor was talking about.
	Faith.
	That it didn't seem to matter in what.
	And I know that's going to bother a lot of people, including me, in a lot of ways.
	But faith seemed to be the key.
	That's what he said.
	And I thought it was a wise comment.
	He didn't attribute it to God, necessarily.
	He didn't rule it out.
	He said faith in God is one form of faith.
	But if you have faith that a little pill that has nothing but sugar in it is going to cure your ill, and then 70 to 90 percent of the time it does, then I think we're talking about the power of our own brains, which we continue to vastly underestimate, in my opinion.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Art.
	I'm Ann from Clearwater, Florida.
	Hi there.
	I bet you've never had anybody from Clearwater, Florida before.
	Well, that's where the Marion Apparition is.
	Well, I'll tell you, I just lost my husband over the weekend, and you were a great source of comfort to me.
	Well, I'm glad.
	Thank you, and I'm sorry for your loss.
	Thank you very much.
	I really enjoyed hearing Al Taylor.
	He was very wonderful, I thought.
	And I have a question about your book, The Quickening.
	Far away.
	Well, I'm one of your many blind listeners, and I'm wondering if you have donated a copy of your book to the Library of Congress for them to put either on tape or in Braille.
	Oh, so they will do it.
	That's good.
	They will do it?
	I hope so.
	No, I'm asking you.
	Yes, they'll do it.
	Oh, let me get to my publisher on that one, because otherwise I'm facing doing it myself.
	Oh, I see.
	Well, I am both a tape and braille reader, but I prefer braille, because I've read braille since I was in third grade, and I'm a very old lady right now.
	I will call my publisher.
	Wonderful.
	All right?
	That's good.
	That might get me off the hook.
	I have been dreading it.
	Oh my.
	I know it's coming.
	I did it with my last book.
	You know, I did an audio tape and it's like reliving the whole thing again.
	And if they will do it, oh I'll do it.
	But listen, I'll call in the morning.
	Thank you.
	Wonderful.
	Well, I'm enjoying your open lines tonight and I've tried to get through many, many nights As a matter of fact, I got through twice tonight, but the lady recording cut me off.
	You know, your party hasn't answered.
	I know.
	And all that business.
	Listen, I've got a question for you.
	Yes?
	If you had a suitcase, one kiloton nuclear device, what would you do with it?
	Well, I really don't know, because I'm kind of at a loss about what to do about anything right now, because my husband's only been dead for two and a half days.
	I'm sort of floating in limbo myself right now.
	That I understand.
	So I can't really think of anything like that.
	I don't feel any resentment for that.
	As a matter of fact, I believe very strongly in reincarnation, even though I'm a conservative Jew, because I have a very strong inbuilt visual sense, although I haven't seen since I was four and a half months old.
	And I believe that were I to come back again, I would come back as a fully sighted person.
	Well, that may be exactly right, ma'am.
	I sure wish you better times, and they will be better.
	Only time will take care of that.
	Yes.
	And I thank you for the call.
	Thank you very much.
	I enjoyed talking to you.
	Take care.
	More than not, in reincarnation.
	And there are indications that there was a lot of original text about reincarnation in the Bible that it was taken out.
	And I believe that too.
	It's all about control.
	And if there is reincarnation, then there is, or there was thought to be originally, less control.
	Right?
	Who's going to fear death if you think you're going to be back?
	And so people long ago took out a lot of the reincarnation stuff in the Bible.
	I tend to believe that's probably true.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	I'm sorry, I didn't push the button.
	Here we go.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello there.
	Yes, hi.
	This is Jackie in Pinellas Park in St.
	Petersburg, Clearwater.
	Again, the Amerian Apparition area.
	Yeah, I tend to think, Art, that it's more like what the St.
	Petersburg Times newspaper said, and that is basically it's water deposits, because we have hard water down here.
	You know, it might be, but the one thing that surprised me was Vandals came along, I guess, right?
	And sort of did it in for a while?
	And then it cleared itself up.
	Yeah, and you know, every time I pass there, when I'm going north in U.S.
	19 to clear water, and I go past there, They seem to have a police guard on it now.
	I'm not surprised, but I was pleasantly surprised when I heard it cleared itself up.
	Now that is fairly impressive, no matter what you believe.
	That's kind of impressive.
	I agree.
	Just one quick, in fact, two quick questions.
	On Friday, just before the funeral started for Lady D or Princess Di, you know, our local station here in St.
	Petersburg cut you off with a very, very interesting Yes, because I've tried to work with out-of-body exercises for years, been to the Monroe Institute, Gateway Program, etc.
	I have met and talked with Joe McMonagle.
	Yes, oh yes.
	A very fascinating man.
	He sure is.
	And, you know, hopefully you can get that guest back again, because, you know, they cut us off at 0400 Eastern Time.
	Well, how about this?
	When I go on my vacation to Egypt and so forth.
	I'll have them replay that show.
	Sounds great.
	And would you please tell some of the newer listeners, like myself, about your encounter with a flying saucer close-up?
	I'll consider doing that.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	The only problem I have with that is I don't want to bore everybody to death.
	I mean, I have one very close Encounter.
	As close as you get without having it land and take you on board or something.
	That close.
	But I don't want to bore every... I've told the story so many times now that I don't want to bore people.
	If I get enough requests for it, I'll do it.
	Otherwise, you know, it takes a while to tell it right and properly and truthfully and so... Let me think that over and we'll go by requests here.
	East of the Rockies?
	You're on the air!
	Hello!
	Good morning.
	I'd like to know if you have an update on how Francis did today?
	No, I'm waiting for that.
	It should be coming in any minute.
	I'm sorry, I have no idea.
	Somebody in Phoenix should call us immediately, or Francis, if you're out there, call my private number.
	I'm sorry, I don't know yet.
	This is my one question for tonight, thank you.
	Alright, take care.
	Yes, of course, the moment we know, we'll pass it on.
	I don't know, win or lose, we'll find out.
	Maybe it's close, and they're still counting.
	I just don't know.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi Art, this is Debbie in Catalina, Arizona.
	Welcome.
	Hi.
	You know what?
	The other day I was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and he had this guy named Roger on.
	I don't know his last name.
	He was a journalist from Washington.
	Yes.
	And Roger said that he interviewed Di a couple months ago.
	Yes.
	And he said, what's the first thing that pops into your head when you think of the United States?
	And she said, Pahrump, Nevada.
	She did not.
	Yes.
	And she's an avid fan of yours.
	You lie.
	No, I'm not.
	That's what he said.
	Cross my heart.
	You lie, you lie, you lie.
	Uh-uh.
	Di knew Pahrump, Nevada.
	Everybody would have told me that.
	Now, where'd you hear this?
	It was a journalist from Washington, and he filled in for Rush Limbaugh last week.
	I guess Rush was on vacation.
	Yes.
	And he said when he interviewed her, that was the first thing that popped into her head when she thought of the United States.
	You're pulling my leg.
	No, I'm not.
	You could try to get in touch with that guy and ask him.
	Well, look, lots of people listen to Rush, right?
	Uh, yeah.
	So, a lot of people would have heard that.
	Uh-huh.
	And I would have, if that really was what was said, I would have had a lot of faxes, I think.
	You think?
	Well, alright, alright.
	Here's what I'll do.
	Okay.
	I'll throw it out to the audience, right now.
	Okay.
	If this lady is right, fax me and tell me.
	If you heard it too, call me, fax me, email me.
	Did that, was that really said?
	I mean, I'll just... Honestly, I caught a sticking needle in my eye, I swear.
	Oh, that's a heavy swear.
	Have you ever seen those movies where they got the guy strapped down and the needles going straight for the center of his pupil?
	No.
	Coming down from above.
	You've never seen that?
	No.
	Horrible.
	Horrible.
	So that's a big swear.
	Alright.
	We'll see.
	Thanks.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	No.
	Could that be true?
	Could that really be true?
	Now that would blow me away.
	Anybody else hear that?
	Somebody filling in for Rush?
	Dye said, uh, what do you think of when you think of America?
	He said, Pahrump, Nevada.
	Nah, I don't know if I buy that.
	We'll see.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yes, uh, Art.
	Yes.
	This is Bill from Cleveland.
	Hi, Bill.
	Um, I hope Mr. Brinkley is feeling better.
	Well, you heard me.
	Well, that's good.
	I hope his prayers are answered.
	I'm sure they will be.
	Art, I wanted to talk to you about something.
	Pardon me for being a little nervous.
	I'm talking to 10 million people.
	Don't.
	Don't think about it.
	Don't even talk about it or you'll make me nervous.
	You're right.
	I'd like to talk about Utopia.
	I know on your program You deal with many New Age subjects.
	Sure.
	And it seems, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but in the New Age movement, there's a lot of talk about utopia, about consciousness raising, and a better day over the horizon.
	Sure.
	But you know there's one thing, and maybe some of your guests could call and share their thoughts on this, one thing that bothers me about the New Age movement, and this is what it is, is the word conformity.
	And Heaven's Gate comes to mind.
	All the people, we saw them on television, they all had kind of a mindless, blank stare on their face.
	No, they didn't.
	No, they didn't.
	No, sir, they didn't.
	No, they did not.
	I mean, look, I would like to say you're right, and that accounts for what they did.
	But you're not right.
	These people, no matter what else you say, They were happy.
	They were settled in their mind about what they were doing.
	They seemed very bright.
	Thank you.
	Every indication is they were very intelligent.
	They certainly are articulate.
	I've interviewed a number of, one of the survivors, and I may interview another.
	He wants to get out of the program.
	But the fact of the matter is, I found them to be articulate, bright, not typically what you would think of as Sort of blank-eyed, cult-type people.
	No, I can't agree with that at all.
	All right, we've got a break.
	It's coming up toward the top of the hour, and we will continue with nothing but open lines.
	It's all yours tonight.
	I'm Art Bell.
	I'm yours tonight as well.
	This is Coast to Coast.
	you're listening to ark bell somewhere in time the night featuring a replay of coast to coast am
	from september 9th 1997 so
	so so
	oh oh
	i said no one we gotta get right back to where we started
	Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
	Good morning.
	Well, ask and ye shall receive.
	Guess who I've got on the telephone?
	Frances Emma Barwood in Phoenix.
	Frances, welcome.
	Hi there.
	Hi.
	Well, Frances, how did it come about?
	I won.
	You won!
	I won!
	Alright, you won!
	In other words, the results are now final.
	That's it.
	And I got 47%, the next one got 31%, and the last one got somewhere around 20%.
	And they outspent me probably, oh goodness, probably by about 5 to 1.
	5 to 1?
	Yeah.
	Have they already given their little concession speeches?
	I don't think that their lips moved in that fashion.
	No, huh?
	It's probably an internal... It kind of, yeah.
	Well, you know, it's been interesting.
	It's just been real interesting.
	As a matter of fact, one of them that ran against me is in a runoff for the regular council election.
	So he's one of two other candidates.
	Him and a whole different candidate is running for the Well, now, the mayor was running his own candidate, right?
	Well, that's one of them that's in the runoff.
	Uh-huh.
	But, I mean, it was part of this recall against you, right?
	Was one of the candidates?
	That's right.
	Now, what does that say about the mayor?
	Well, what's interesting is, you know, if you go back over this whole thing from the very beginning, including the zoning case, Which is something that he worked on, I didn't.
	And then when we get to the most recent thing, which is the lights over Phoenix, and it was something that I asked about and all he did was make fun of me and not want to answer any questions.
	It really makes you wonder, you know, what his agenda was as far as running a candidate against me.
	It certainly does, doesn't it?
	So maybe in the next, will there be another council meeting between now and the next three months?
	Well, oh yes.
	As a matter of fact, tomorrow.
	Tomorrow.
	Maybe tomorrow you should go in and when the question part comes up, when you can ask, ask if you could possibly revisit the question of the lights over Phoenix.
	Well, you know, tomorrow and, as a matter of fact, our regular policy session should have been today, but they canceled it because it's election day.
	And next Tuesday would have been the next policy session.
	And those are the sessions that are on TV and those are the ones we can ask the questions at.
	And that one was cancelled.
	So all we've got is a formal session tomorrow and a formal session next week.
	I see.
	But I think what I'm going to do is put it in memo form, written, and ask again for a written reply.
	So we'll see what happens then.
	Well, I know there are certain media people down in Phoenix who have been on your case as well, and I hope they all eat fertilizer and get the flu.
	Well, you know, it's interesting.
	There are a few closet questioners in the media, and behind the scenes they said, you know, they really would like to know what was going on.
	But what's interesting is they're just as much afraid to come out and just ask, you know, why aren't we looking into this?
	Well, yeah.
	I'm sure there are a lot of people looking at the election results late tonight and saying, hmm, maybe I shouldn't have snickered so hard.
	I wonder if I've made a mistake here.
	Yeah, well, it's been kind of interesting, and I want to thank you so much.
	For getting this all out in the open and letting people know exactly what the case was here.
	Frances, maybe it's a good sign that people who stand up for what they believe still end up on the top of the heap every now and then.
	Maybe that's a good sign for our country.
	I wish you well, and congratulations!
	Thank you, Art, so very much.
	Take care, Frances.
	Thank you.
	All right, that's Frances Emma Barwood, victorious.
	in the recall election and uh... i'm sure
	the ramifications of that one are going to be rattling around real hard in
	phoenix talk radio uh... tomorrow
	with the fact that uh... yes
	We're going to go ahead and close out the meeting.
	All right, back to open lines in a moment.
	Back to open lines in a second.
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	Have you ever thought much about that?
	Actually, my response is, not really.
	You know, as long as I have enough money to be comfortable, I am happy.
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	Working a 9-to-5 regular old job is not going to get you rich.
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	It is a course in which, as you learn, you invest on paper.
	And only when you know you're doing the right thing and you're going to make money do you switch and use money.
	I'm flooded with faxes from people who say they've made a lot of money.
	And in all this time, one complaint, one complaint, And that came from a guy who frankly admitted that he probably did something different when he switched over and began using money.
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	And K-R-C, as in Ken Roberts' company.
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	Sit down, read it, and decide for yourself.
	All right?
	In a moment, it's going to be back to open lines.
	Where's my GMX, anyway?
	Where's my GMX?
	I'm supposed to be running a GMX spot right now.
	Tape spot, and it's gone.
	Gone, gone, gone.
	Well, I'll look for it.
	In the meantime, I'll answer the phone.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello there.
	No, you're not.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Is this the R Bell Show?
	Good guess.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Okay.
	The eternal instruction.
	There.
	There you go.
	Where are you?
	I am in Flint, Michigan.
	All right.
	Flint.
	Yes, sir.
	You brought up the subject earlier about the suitcase bomb.
	Yes.
	A one kiloton suitcase bomb.
	Nuke.
	The only possible use I could think that any moron would have for that, other than terrorism, is tearing it apart so they could make more.
	The only thing I could come up with was to start it going, you know, and then sort of play a personal game of chicken and see if you could press the cancel button, you know, like two or three seconds before it was going to go.
	I heard that.
	But with my luck, you know, the phone would ring or something.
	Divert my attention.
	Goodbye, Pahrump.
	So, what was that you were saying about morons now?
	Other uses?
	The only possible use, I could think, other than terrorism, is to advance your terroristic aim, whatever that may be, by actually taking the thing apart.
	To make more.
	Oh, I see.
	To replicate it.
	Yes, I suppose there would be that.
	But I would think that would be a nervous thing, too.
	You know, cutting wires and disassembling a nuclear device.
	There's a lot of small countries who really don't have a nuclear program.
	Well, there's a profit motive.
	Now, you could turn around and resell it to some small country somewhere.
	Peru, for example, they'd probably like to have a nuke.
	Oh, Castro.
	Now think what Castro would pay for a nuke.
	Oh, he's also a wonderful politician.
	Trouble is, we all know who he'd use it against.
	I don't know, I'm trying to give it some thought.
	There's got to be a use.
	There's a hundred of them, it's reported out there.
	We'll think of something.
	I appreciate your call, sir.
	I found this, so we'll be right back.
	Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	It's a story of a man who was trying to find his way back to the past.
	you you
	Jim in Las Vegas says, Hey Art, why not use a Bayless clockwork generator on the Cassini space probe?
	Well, Jim, the problem is the Bayless Clockwork Generator requires somebody to turn the crank.
	Now, I suppose you could send it out there and hope that as it wound down slowly, some six-fingered alien hand would come along and give it a good crank, but I wouldn't bet on that.
	On my international line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello Art, how are you doing this morning?
	I'm alright, where are you?
	I'm on a highway near Toronto, Canada.
	Oh, hold on a sec.
	Let's see if I can get rid of some of the echo.
	I think I got rid of some of it anyway.
	Toronto, Canada, huh?
	What are you listening to?
	I'm listening to, I usually listen to WRVA.
	WRVA?
	That'd be Richmond, Virginia.
	Richmond, Virginia, or sometimes 1100 in Cleveland.
	Okay.
	But I live in London, Ontario.
	CJBK 1290, we just got you overnight.
	Thank you very much.
	Yes sir, we are tromping across Canada like nobody's business.
	It's absolutely wonderful to hear you at night.
	So here's two ideas for a nuclear case.
	Oh, okay.
	The first one is, Somebody actually take it apart, uh, and with videotape, make it into a, into a video and put it on the internet.
	So then you can see part by part exactly how it's made.
	Uh, we call that, uh, actually, uh, my friend Bob Crane calls that a baghead video.
	You know, where you take a paper bag and you cut out a little place for your eyes and your nose and your mouth?
	Right.
	And you sit there and you dissemble this, uh, nuke, uh, on videotape.
	Right.
	So that it can be done by anybody at home.
	We call that the baghead video.
	There you go.
	There's one use.
	Yeah?
	Another use is, is it possible to actually convert it into a suitcase-sized nuclear power plant?
	Oh.
	I don't think so.
	They're constructed to go bang.
	And I don't think that they're, you know, you're dealing with what would have to be fusion, and we don't have that together yet.
	Right.
	But your mind's in the right place.
	Right.
	I appreciate your call, sir.
	Thank you very much, Art.
	Take care.
	Oh, that's right.
	Well, you know we ought to celebrate Canada.
	We ought to celebrate Canada.
	Maybe I will open the lines just for Canada next hour.
	We're all over Canada now.
	All over Canada.
	And I haven't even really celebrated that fact.
	So I'll do that.
	Next hour, we'll have a Canadian hour.
	Both on the East and West of the Rockies line.
	And the International line.
	I'll close it off and we'll have Canada only, eh?
	But see, now we're into... The people who say that, eh?
	They're kind of in the West.
	And we're on the air now from, actually, let me tell you, from Nova Scotia.
	To Montreal, to London, and it just marches right across Canada.
	We're on the air all over the place up there now.
	That man's first idea was pretty good.
	A back head nuclear video.
	He's to the right.
	Call us toll free at 1-800-618-8255.
	Okay.
	We're going to have to start all over again.
	One of the only rules that we've got on the show, Ed, is that we're not allowed to use last names.
	So let's try it again.
	You're Ed and you're in Youngstown?
	Right.
	Alright.
	Welcome to the program.
	Well, thank you.
	I really had a hard time getting on.
	It's almost a miracle.
	Anyway, first of all, I'd like to give my blessings and my prayers out to Daniel.
	Well, it looks like it's working.
	Great.
	I'm glad to hear it.
	Anyway, when you had Merle Haggard on, it was my understanding that you're all supposed to teach about the Urantia book, the Book of Truth.
	Supposed to teach about it?
	Well, somebody asked him if he had read it, and he said, yes, he's been reading it for years.
	Well, anyway, you know, Strange Universe tomorrow is having a segment on the Urantia book, the Book of Truth.
	And I'd just like the audience to know that.
	Well, if you remember, sir, if you remember Merle Haggard's answer to the caller who called, he said that he is fascinated by it, has been reading it for years, but thinks there might be some demonic influence in it.
	Well, you know, I get a lot of that, but you really have to read it, and you have to let, you know, spiritual discernment, you know, first logic mind and spiritual logic mind Wait and see if you have balance or if it comes up wanting.
	But, you know, hardly anyone practices spiritual discernment.
	They talk about being true truth seekers and, you know, sincere and all, but they really aren't, especially when they're faced with it.
	And that's one of the problems when it comes to, well, fundamentalist Christian societies and everything else.
	Then you have the atheist side.
	You know, the Orange Book, Book of Truth.
	Is the book spoken of in many of the prophecies in most of the religions of the world, including Christian, Hopi, Islam, Judaism, Chinese, and many others?
	Well, I appreciate it.
	I'll watch the segment on Strange Universe tomorrow night and see what I think, alright?
	Can I say a little bit more about it, maybe?
	Like what?
	Well, that the Book of Truth is written by Spirit representatives of the Universal Father with His mandate... Was it channeled?
	No, it's including, you know, Jesus Christ with his blessing, the sevenfold Godhead.
	But now, how it was produced, there was a human being involved, sort of like the guest you had on the other night, I think it was last night, or the night before that, that talked about, you know, writing a book about the angels, kind of prodded him to do so.
	Well, but he had, yeah, he had, okay, I know you're talking about Next.
	Um, I don't know.
	I'll watch the segment and see what I think tomorrow night.
	Strange Universe is going to do something on the Urantia book.
	It has been around for as long as I have and probably longer.
	Long time.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	This is Joey up in Rio.
	Yes, sir.
	And two questions for you.
	First one, kind of stupid.
	How the heck do you know Ross Mitchell?
	Okay, um, turn your radio off before I answer.
	Uh, okay.
	Okay?
	This is a regulation on this program.
	You must turn your radio off.
	It is off.
	How do I know Ross Mitchell is the question?
	That's a good question.
	Ross... KOH in Reno was one of the very first radio stations that began carrying Coast to coast when we began to syndicate the program.
	Okay.
	And in that regard, of course, we talked to them.
	I mean, when you only have one affiliate, they're the only ones you got to talk to, right?
	Right.
	And we heard Ross had this voice that approximated that of God.
	Yeah.
	And we thought, I'm sick of giving out the numbers, so why not have somebody with a voice like that give them out?
	And that's how it came to be.
	And so, KOH was just about the first affiliate we ever had.
	Oh, okay.
	That's my stupid question.
	Now, here's my real question.
	Okay.
	A few months back, when the Russian space probe to Mars crashed back into Earth from orbit, it hit the west coast of South America.
	That's right.
	And the last thing I heard was that somebody sent some people in there to look for it.
	You're damn right they did.
	Have they found anything?
	Uh, the reason you haven't heard anything?
	Yes.
	Is because you never will.
	They had, uh, radiation, uh, stuff.
	They had, uh, high-level radiation, uh, power for that thing.
	Right, plutonium.
	Plutonium, yeah, plutonium.
	RTGs, I suppose?
	That's right.
	And, my guess would be you're never going to hear a word about it.
	But, when something green with gigantic teeth comes crawling up, uh, Across the Texas border?
	Yeah.
	That'll be where it came from.
	Okie dokie.
	All right.
	Bye.
	That's the best I can do.
	No, there haven't been a word, not a word, in the news about that.
	You bet they sent a team down there.
	In fact, the U.S.
	offered cooperation, then the whole thing went silent.
	And you and I can both guess why, can't we?
	Break here at the bottom of the hour.
	I'm Art Bell and this is Coast to Coast AM.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	I had no idea of what I am. It's all clear to me now. My heart is on fire.
	Now!
	Ooh, you can dance, you can dive, having the time of your life.
	Ooh, see that girl, watch that scene, she gets to dancing free.
	Friday night and the lights are low, looking out for a place to go.
	Where the play's about music.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	It's exactly what it is and I've got a really hot, no pun intended, you'll understand, tip for you here in a moment.
	From a highly reliable source, which must for this moment remain anonymous.
	Oh Oh, you're gonna love this one.
	Listen, reasons to go to my website right now.
	Well, let me count them.
	A million.
	My website is more like a web within a web, it's so big.
	We've got a studio cam going right now.
	Three studio cams circulating.
	So you can actually go to my website and sit there and about every 45 seconds or so it updates with a new photograph of me doing the program.
	It's a frightening thing to have in the studio with you, but it's a lot of fun.
	You see that on the web?
	You can go to the Rogue Market from the web and buy Art Bell stock before it splits.
	Remembering that earlier call today.
	I actually called that broker back to help the guy out.
	This lady wanted to buy Art Bell stock and she was demanding that he find it and immediately buy it before it split.
	Lots of photographs up there, the recent trip to Alaska.
	We got to play with, and I say play with because that's what we did, a Black Hawk helicopter.
	How frequently do you ever get to do that?
	Boy, was that fun.
	You'll see the photographs of that up there.
	And some of the most beautiful Alaskan scenery you've ever seen in your whole life.
	to most of those photographs.
	Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997 on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Alright, here it is.
	All right, here it is. I have from a very reliable source, word moments ago, that the
	American Chemical Society that is meeting now in Las Vegas is later today going to make
	an allegation that during the years that we did supposed safe underground testing here
	in Nevada.
	A number of unannounced leaks.
	My source further indicates that the Department of Energy is going to follow up by admitting that yes, it is true.
	This is going to rock a lot of boats if it's true, so all I can say to you is if If you hear about this later today, remember you heard it here first.
	Let me repeat, at the American Chemical Society meeting in Las Vegas, it is said,
	by a very good source that I have, will say that there were leaks during the underground testing period,
	and the Department of Energy will admit it is true.
	I, of course, have been here, very nearby, during the entire time they've been doing that.
	I remember very clearly and very well years ago, working in Las Vegas, when we would issue, when I was working in Las Vegas, we would issue on a daily basis, not daily, but any day they were going to do a test, warnings, that people on High-rise buildings or working in precarious locations should get inside during the period of the test because buildings would rock back and forth when these things would go off.
	And now they're going to announce that, in effect, they lied and there were leaks.
	The only thing I don't have from my source is how extensive the leaks were.
	I always used to wonder about this because they would postpone tests when the wind was going toward Las Vegas.
	I wonder how many of you here in Nevada remember that?
	And I always used to wonder out loud on the air, if these things are safe and there's not a problem, then why do they postpone a test when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?
	So I must say I'm not surprised, but I am saddened If it comes to pass.
	Now, this is not the Holy Grail.
	This is from a very reliable source of mine.
	So if it comes to pass that you hear this announcement tomorrow, just remember you heard it here first.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello, Art.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	Yeah, you heard it here.
	Do you believe in coincidences?
	Um, well, yeah.
	I mean, there are coincidences.
	Yeah, I heard you mention that Diana mentioned Peralta, Nevada.
	Yeah.
	Uh, on, uh, I sent you a fax, uh, from Diana on September 6th, uh, 1997 at 1238 p.m.
	Uh, it was, it was entitled, uh, to Walter.
	Did you get that?
	Um... The spelling and the layout was bad.
	So don't, don't, uh... Wait, what did the fax say?
	Don't judge it by that.
	It was a message from Diane from the other site.
	Oh, I did get that, yes.
	She trusted me to give it to somebody.
	She didn't say Art Bell, but she knew that I knew you and that it would get there.
	If you think that's not a coincidence, there's something.
	Because I heard the lady on the last hour mention, Diana mentioned the Pahrump.
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	No, I remember your facts.
	Yeah, I wish you would convey it to the people for me.
	Well... It sure would be nice.
	That's her wish, okay?
	Well... It's all in her words and none of my words.
	Well, it just came to you?
	Huh?
	It's exactly what she told me.
	And the reason... I mean, did you see Diana or did you just hear her in your head?
	I heard her through the spirit, and I didn't watch when I was writing it.
	I just wrote it.
	Automatic writing?
	Yeah, that's the reason it's on a slant and it doesn't look good.
	Alright.
	If you conveyed it to the people, she wanted that.
	Alright, well, I don't know.
	How do I know that that's really from Diana?
	I'm sorry, I have a real problem with these kinds of things, because how do I know it's really from Diana?
	I read it.
	Kinda like the Houdini thing.
	He said he'd be back, remember, and he gave code.
	So that they would know if it was really him.
	As far as I know, nobody's cracked that code yet.
	And so a message from Diana without a code.
	Well, to the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Who's this?
	Who are you calling?
	Uh, I'm trying to call the Art Bell Show.
	Bingo.
	There you go!
	No, there you go.
	Well, this is great to be talking with you.
	I just want to say that I'm a first-time caller calling from Canada.
	I was actually trying to wait for your Canadian show.
	That's right.
	Where are you in Canada?
	In Vancouver, actually.
	Well, then unfortunately we're going to be unable to talk to you until next hour.
	Oh!
	I'm kidding.
	There you go.
	I'm kidding.
	Anyway, what's on your mind?
	Well, I just want to say that you've got a fascinating program.
	If I'm up late, I usually have my radio on while I'm getting to bed listening to your program.
	You have some very fascinating subjects on there.
	I just want to say that hopefully you'll rebroadcast some of the shows that you had In regards of the time travel stuff, I keep dozing off in the middle of those, and I'd sure like to stay awake for some of them next time around, but I think those are really fascinating to me, and I always enjoy those ones.
	All right.
	I will do more of those.
	Hey, time travel is probably my favorite subject.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's mine as well.
	I always get glued to either the TV set when something comes on like that or even listening to your program about it.
	I think it's a shame I have to fall asleep at 3 o'clock in the morning to that, you see.
	All right, my friend.
	Thank you very much.
	We'll do more on time travel.
	That's great.
	Thank you.
	Nobody ever has to ask me too hard about that.
	Hey, here we go.
	From Steve in Santa Barbara.
	Ten.
	The top ten constructive uses for a backpack nuke.
	Actually, suitcase nuke.
	Ten.
	Really deep sea fishing.
	Nine.
	Hide and go nuke.
	Count to one million.
	Eight.
	Rabbit control for Nye County.
	Seven.
	Swimming pool construction.
	Six.
	Ice cube exporting from Alaska.
	You blow it out of there.
	Five.
	One word.
	Timber.
	Four.
	The Kevorkian travel bag.
	Three.
	Opening child-proof medicine bottles.
	Two.
	Extreme crop circles.
	And one.
	U.S.
	Pro Surfing Championship, live from Utah.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello there.
	Now stop listening to that.
	Turn that off.
	It's your turn.
	You're on the air.
	Yeah, I love your show, for one thing.
	Well, I do, too.
	And I've been trying to get ahold of you forever.
	Well, that's a long time.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I wanted to tell you that I wanted to hear about that story about the alien, your alien story that you had to tell.
	You mean my encounter?
	Yeah, your encounter.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Michigan.
	And how long have you been listening to this program?
	How long?
	Yep.
	I just started, actually, about two months ago.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I'll tell it.
	Alright, I'll tell it.
	This is the last time for a while.
	Okay?
	This is now four years ago.
	At that time, I was over four years, really.
	I was commuting between here in Pahrump, Nevada and Las Vegas.
	There is, between us, a mountain.
	5,000 some odd foot mountain, big mountain.
	It is a one-way, 65-mile trip between here and Las Vegas.
	So I commuted this every day to do the radio show that I did in Las Vegas.
	A lot of commuting.
	Well, one night coming home after a program, a Sunday night program, it was I don't know, about 11.20 I guess at night.
	And we were, and I say we because my wife was with me in the car.
	We have little cars, GeoMetros, I like my Geos.
	And we were in my Geo and she was in the passenger seat and I was driving.
	And I guess we were probably not more than a mile, probably less than a mile from home.
	And we were traveling on a road from the east going west.
	My wife said, what the hell is that?
	She had somehow caught a reflection or a light or something and turned around.
	And she saw this craft, this thing, coming up from behind us.
	And she was very excited.
	I said, I don't know.
	Pulled the car over to the side of the road.
	You know, it's a very country, country-fied atmosphere out here.
	We're in a very, well, to give you an idea, this valley is twice the size of Las Vegas Valley.
	They have a million people and we have 23,000 people spread out.
	So it's a very country atmosphere out here.
	And it's very quiet.
	I mean, you can hear a cricket at a quarter mile, a half mile you can hear a cricket.
	Very quiet.
	Dead quiet.
	So quiet that if you go out there and there's no cricket, you hear the humming in your own ears.
	I mean, dead silence.
	That's how quiet it is.
	It was almost a full moon.
	A very bright, you know, the air here is very clear, so it was very bright.
	Stars out everywhere.
	And I stopped the car.
	We both got out and stood on the street because there was no traffic.
	And here coming from behind us was this large triangle, which I would estimate to be about a hundred and fifty feet from one point of the triangle to the other.
	And it was extremely low, not more than a hundred and fifty feet above our heads, maybe even only a hundred.
	Low, very low.
	And it was coming roughly from the west-southwest to the I'm sorry, east, it would, let me get my direction straight, it would be the east, south, east, and moving to the west-northwest, and it moved directly over our heads.
	Directly over our heads.
	Now, it was black in color, there was enough moon that you could see the substance of the craft.
	It wasn't just lights.
	There were two lights on the back of the triangle and one on the front strobing.
	It slowly, and I'm going to guess this object was moving no more than 30 miles an hour.
	I mean slow.
	Big, gigantic, the kind of thing where the moon and the stars just went away when it came over our head.
	You know, like in the movie.
	No beams of light came down.
	It floated.
	It did not fly.
	Aerodynamic flight takes, you know, aerodynamic occurrences.
	In other words, you've got to have lift.
	Be going fast enough to achieve lift.
	Aerodynamic lift.
	This was, this object was defying gravity.
	And it just floated right over our heads and continued.
	We stood there and watched it float out across the valley.
	Toward the West Northwest for a good, oh, I don't know, five minutes, maybe longer, until we could no longer see it.
	And we came home sort of silently saying, oh, my God, what did we see?
	So that's what it was.
	There was no sound.
	I could still hear the cricket, you know, as this thing was passing over.
	So, you tell me what I saw.
	I don't know.
	That's the experience.
	I debated heavily whether I would say anything about it on the air.
	I finally decided I would, and I dragged my poor wife in to vouch for my story, because I wasn't about to tell it alone.
	I saw one of two things.
	I saw military technology that is so far advanced That its revelation would be a gigantic story.
	Or, I saw an alien craft.
	Either way, it's a big story.
	And trust me when I tell you that once you have seen something like this, it will change your life.
	And if it doesn't, then like the earlier caller said, you're a moron.
	Once you've seen this, you know.
	You don't know what it is, but you know that it's one or the other, and both are gigantic stories, so there you are.
	Now, about a week later, two weeks, there was a story in our local paper.
	Lo and behold, we were not the only ones who had seen it.
	Lots and lots of people here in the Perham Valley have seen this object.
	And the newspaper made an inquiry of Nellis Air Force Base, and they commented.
	They came back, Nellis, and said, yes, on the evening in question there had been a secret mission that, their words, may have overflown the Pahrump Valley.
	They said it was a C-130 aircraft.
	What an insult!
	I was in the Air Force.
	I flew in C-130s.
	A C-130 does not look like a triangle.
	A C-130 does not sound like a soundless triangle.
	A C-130 would have rattled my teeth at 100 or 150 feet above my head.
	That was an insult to the intelligence of anybody who had seen that object.
	Nevertheless, that is the story, the official story, Every bit as good as swamp gas at C-130.
	Ridiculous.
	Well, there it is.
	That's my story.
	And I'm sticking to it.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
	And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
	I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player, too.
	And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
	Now, you played pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
	I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, because I think I'm better than you.
	The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin.
	But I'll take your bet, and you're going to regret it, because I'm the best there's ever been.
	Johnny, run up your bow and play your fiddle hard Cause hell broke loose in John...
	While men think only fools rush in While men think all they need is love when you...
	Try to make it...
	The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	Well, we're gonna do something a little different this hour.
	We're going to do... And really this occurred about a week ago, I think.
	We're on the air all across Canada.
	I mean really all across Canada.
	From Nova Scotia, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Bunch of other ones?
	So, I'm going to have a Canadian hour.
	Now, what does that mean?
	That means that those of you using both, in fact, all three lines, east of the Rockies, west of the Rockies, and the international line, all of you have got to hang up, unless you're in Canada.
	This is going to be a complete Canadian hour.
	Are you listening to me out there?
	Canadians only.
	No matter where in Canada you are, it doesn't matter.
	Canada only.
	Everybody else out there has got to cooperate.
	Hang up the phone.
	Canada only.
	It's open lines.
	We're talking about all kinds of stuff.
	For example, what would you do if you had a... What would you do other than some sort of terrorist thing with a suitcase nuke?
	Here's somebody else with the 10 best reasons to own your own one A kiloton nuclear weapon.
	One, to create your own private swimming pool larger than the Joneses.
	Two, a poor country's way of creating their own Grand Canyon for a tourist attraction.
	Three, rocket propulsion system for those anxious to see if Richard's glass city on the moon is for real.
	You'd need a cannon.
	Four, the quickest way for an individual to visit another dimension.
	It's true.
	Heating oil.
	Let's see.
	I don't understand this one.
	Heating oil got too expensive due to Art Bell's constant advertising spots.
	Oh, I see.
	Due to budget cutbacks, the U.S.
	military needed a cheaper supplier.
	A new way to test how deep Mel's hole really is.
	Third world country's way of eradicating locusts.
	Paula Jones really wants to stick it to her lawyers.
	For those who truly want to know if those bomb shelters from the fifties really worked.
	That's from Daniel in Santa Cruz.
	I do have a big piece of news for you.
	It is not confirmed.
	This comes from an underground source.
	Okay?
	We'll leave it at that for now.
	And it may not come to pass, but this source has been very reliable in the past.
	So, if it's true, it's sad, it's worrisome, because I live here.
	I understand the American Chemical Society is meeting now in Las Vegas.
	My source says that later today they are going to say that the U.S.
	leaked significant amounts of radiation during the underground testing period.
	And I lived here during that, thank you very much.
	Again, leaked nuclear radiation during the underground testing.
	My source further indicates the Department of Energy is going to admit that it is true.
	All of this may or may not come to pass, but if it does, remember, you heard it here first.
	I hope it does not come true, because I have been here during those years, and as I told the earlier audience, I used to, you know, work in Las Vegas, and we would issue warnings all the time.
	On the day they would do a test, we would say, people in high-rise buildings, In precarious positions, get out of them because things are going to rock and roll at 8 o'clock this morning, and kaboom, she'd go, and the buildings would shake in Las Vegas.
	And now, and of course they always talked about how very safe it was.
	The one thing that always bugged me about their announcements were that frequently they would say, today's test has been called off because the wind is going in the wrong direction.
	Now, I always wondered why they were worried about the wind if it was safe.
	Now, I guess you could contend, well, it was just an extra precaution, just in case it was leaked, but they never told us there were any leaks.
	So I always presumed that their worry about the wind was with good cause, and now it seems like it is so.
	We'll see if this announcement is indeed made later today, and if it is, then my source is good.
	But the announcement is horrible.
	I'm really hard... I'm so... sorry to hear that.
	You never know what you'll hear on Coast to Coast AM with George Norris.
	You know, there is terrorism out there.
	So, in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
	I'm convinced That there are groups out there.
	Sinister, powerful groups.
	That would create this terror to continue to control us.
	I think you're absolutely correct.
	But of course, anybody that's followed the process of governments throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always seeks more.
	And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
	Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
	Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
	Every day, this is going to happen now, in our future, that we're going to allow this.
	It's just a matter of time.
	Now, let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	One more time, very quickly.
	God bless all of you who have prayed for Danion.
	Danion called me late today and said it looks like there'll be no surgery.
	The bleeding in all the three aneurysms has stopped.
	There's every chance he believes and his doctors believe the aneurysms, the clotting rather, as a result of the aneurysms will dissolve or may yet pass and create strokes.
	But they feel it might be controllable, so they're not going to do surgery.
	In other words, folks, it looks like Danion's going to make it, and he wanted to thank all of you.
	He may even come on the air in the next day or two from his hospital bed.
	He may even be out of the hospital if all goes well within a week.
	So don't say there's nothing to the power of prayer, because there is.
	I'm not sure, again, the source of this power, because doctors will tell you this, that 70 to 90 percent of the time, you know, taking a placebo will cause a condition to remedy, but it worked, you know?
	It worked.
	Thank you.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Good morning, Art.
	This is Fred in McKeithport, Pennsylvania.
	Fred, we're holding this open for Canada.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll wait until you reopen.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	We'll do that next hour.
	We're holding the east and west of the Rockies line for Canada.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I really enjoy your show.
	Calling from Vancouver.
	Vancouver, BC.
	My name's Bob.
	Yes, sir.
	I just wanted to maybe let you know about something that was in our news about almost a year ago.
	Okay.
	A story about the Golden Spruce, a tree that was growing up in the Queen Charlotte Islands, which I think you're probably familiar with.
	You probably went up there by them on your cruise to Alaska.
	You bet I did, yes.
	A big archipelago we have.
	Anyway, this Golden Spruce It was a giant Sitka spruce with golden needles that was caused by a genetic flaw, and it's quite rare.
	This tree played quite an important part in the Haida mythology.
	It's said that after a blizzard wiped out one of the Haida villages, that's one of the Indian nations, A grandfather and a boy fled the village.
	They were the only two survivors.
	And the boy looked back to take one last view at the village, and he turned into this tree, the Golden Spruce.
	And the myth is that he would be remembered by the last generation of people on earth.
	Well, anyway, getting back to the modern day, This tree was cut down about a year ago by a chainsaw-wielding nut who actually really had to go through a lot of effort.
	So you folks in Canada have your own problems?
	Oh yeah, more than enough.
	Anyway, this tree was cut down by this guy who left sort of a Unabomber-type note.
	and he even identified himself. Oh, there's a great, great pro-environmental thing to do,
	contact him for free. Yeah, anyway, he was charged with it and he said he was going to paddle his
	kayak to his court appointment. To his court appointment?
	Yes, on the mainland.
	I guess it's about a hundred kilometers, sixty miles paddling, which is pretty skookum paddling a kayak.
	So what happened to him?
	Anyway, he was last seen in February, and in June they found a shattered kayak and some camping equipment with his name on it.
	And he's presumed dead.
	So there's kind of an odd justice.
	And, uh, if he's really dead, but, uh, you know, he might well have, uh, just sort of taken off and be a feral human being now.
	Thank you very much for the class.
	A horrid little story.
	Horrid little story.
	What a great environmental, uh, statement to make.
	Cut down a precious tree.
	Huh.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air, top of the morning.
	Good morning to you.
	Well, you're gonna have to talk up a little louder into your phone.
	Okay, I'm in the phone right now.
	I had a couple of things I wanted to talk to you about.
	Alright.
	One of them is that I met a lady the other day who was talking about cancer and she said that, well she felt that someone had given her parents cancer and that several other people were acquiring cancer under the same circumstances.
	Something to do with the Heart Project.
	But it's all second-hand information, and I haven't been able to find anything special.
	I don't think that HAARP has cranked up enough power to be affecting biological... She was saying that her brother was involved with HAARP, and that it didn't even really amount to an energy source.
	It was more like it had something to do with the biological warfare and the... Well, again, I don't buy it.
	I think HAARP is a worry when they crank up to 100 billion watts in that area, Yeah, I really think that if they were to make enough power that would totally be more than the power inside the crust of the Earth, like the lava and all that, then there'd be a big eruption.
	That's what I feel.
	Alright, well I appreciate the call.
	I wanted to tell you something about turmeric.
	It's a really wonderful root that a lot of people in India use in their food.
	It's got a dark orange-yellow color.
	What does it do for you?
	Well, it's an antioxidant.
	It's an anti-cancer agent.
	It also helps limit the reproduction of HIV-1 in your system.
	All right.
	It does all kinds of things for you, and you can look this up in Urb Books if you get a chance to go to your local health food store.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	Something for cancer and HIV.
	Well, that makes sense.
	I mean, anything that would boost your immune system, whether it was cancer, HIV, or anything else, anything that would boost your immune system, Would obviously assist you in fighting either one of those.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art?
	Yes.
	This is Sandra from Washington.
	Sandra from Washington.
	Are you on a portable phone, Sandra?
	Um, no.
	Yes.
	Am I too far away from it?
	Uh, it just... I can tell when you're on a portable.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	It's alright.
	Um, I was wondering about something.
	Um, last night on my way into work, it was about 8.15.
	And I was heading down I-5, north, and as I passed through Everett, I noticed some extremely bright, bright lights that were rather low to the ground, and I watched them for quite a while, and they went from the west side of the freeway to the east side of the freeway when I blinked, and I could see them going farther down, away from me then.
	And I was kind of wondering, did anyone else see this last night?
	Or was it just me?
	Did anybody what?
	Did anyone else in the area see the lights?
	Uh-huh.
	I don't know.
	Now we'll find out.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	I didn't see them.
	I was here.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I also wanted to know, I remember last year you had a gentleman on that was from Washington that dealt with unexplained lights.
	Uh, yes.
	Could I get some information on how to get a hold of him?
	You're talking about Peter Davenport, and it's the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
	It's in the phone book.
	Oh, okay.
	I'll look it up.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Take care.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	How are you?
	I'm fine.
	I'm phoning from Montreal.
	Montreal, Canada.
	Yes.
	Glad to have you.
	It's so nice to have somebody intelligent from the United States to be on the air.
	We've had Mr. Stern there lately.
	I heard Howard made his debut in Canada, and there's this big thing going around the internet.
	Something about Howard insulted Canadians on the first day he was on?
	Yeah, real racist.
	He called us scumbags and traitors.
	Oh, that's a way to really ingratiate yourself to your new affiliate and all your listeners.
	That's great.
	Congratulations, Howard.
	I've heard your latest statement about your encounter with a UFO.
	Oh, yes.
	And I have a twin brother.
	And in 1958, we did have an encounter, a very close one.
	And we forgot about it about two years.
	And it was exactly like the Wiener Brothers.
	The Wiener Brothers?
	Yes, the one that went for a fishing expedition.
	Yes.
	In Iraqis?
	Yes.
	And it was really weird.
	We saw a saucer that was about the size of a football field.
	We were about eight to ten people.
	And I've never met these people afterwards.
	And my twin brother and I never spoke about it for about two, three years.
	Well, it's as I said.
	I mean, once you've seen something like this, you're never going to be the same.
	No, and I've been searching for the last 40 years about all the information I could get on it.
	It never happened again, and I was suspecting maybe mental disorder or something like that, but it's so unbelievable.
	No, no mental disorder.
	They're really there.
	What they are, that's another question, but they really are there.
	No mental disorders.
	Well, listen, I really appreciate your call from Montreal, and we're real happy to be on the air in Montreal.
	Well, we're really happy to have you here.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Have a nice night.
	Take care.
	You cannot see something like that without changing your life.
	Forevermore, you will be unsure of what you saw.
	You will be wondering what you saw.
	It will either be... Well, there's only one... I keep saying this because...
	And I'm really wrong.
	There are other possibilities.
	You either saw something military we have that is so far beyond what we admit that it's a gigantic story, or you saw an E.T.
	graph, or you saw something in the paranormal range.
	Any of those, I would think, are possible, and no doubt things I have not thought of.
	You're on the air, Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
	Where are you calling from, please?
	Out of touch.
	I beg pardon?
	Are you calling from out of touch?
	Oh, Halifax!
	Halifax, do you know you are my first caller from Nova Scotia?
	You are my first caller from Nova Scotia?
	Wait a minute now, I can't hear you too well.
	You can't hear me too well.
	My name is Mr. Lloyd Brown from Halifax.
	Yes sir, but I just can't hear you real well.
	It's kind of like your phone is muffled, a little bit muffled.
	A little bit muffled?
	Now that's a little better if you talk into it.
	Yeah, okay.
	Better, better, better.
	How's life in Nova Scotia?
	Yeah.
	On the topic of Nova Scotia and the Maritime Province, I'm from Montreal.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	And I like the politics and all that and everything else about the Maritime Province and everything else about the government and everything else.
	But I like the... I mean, like Montreal, Quebec is separating from Canada, right?
	Well, it may.
	It may.
	Well, how would you vote?
	If you were in Montreal, how would you vote?
	Would you separate?
	You would?
	My mother had voted.
	Well how would you vote if you were in Montreal?
	How would you vote?
	Go where you want to go.
	Would you separate?
	Yeah.
	You would?
	I was born in Newfoundland.
	That's my hometown and I got nowhere to live and Newfoundland is a stutter town.
	time it's time to take a look at it. I'm looking forward to when Quebec is going along, because
	Newfoundland, George Smallwood, in politics, give away Newfoundland Ardgold.
	Wouldn't that kind of separate you in a way, if Montreal...
	Well, in other words, case hurrah, surrah.
	Well, that's my first call from Nova Scotia.
	I had a hard time understanding him.
	a critical on their own and the former prime minister on their own and canada
	on their own whatever you want to go alright well in other words case
	rosserau well that's my first call from nova scotia i had a hard time
	understanding him but then again i have a hard time understanding a lot of
	people from mississippi too from the high desert this is coast to coast
	am You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
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	Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
	Good morning.
	This is, uh, for the next 25 minutes, all Canada.
	All Canada, on all lines.
	Only Canada.
	I'm celebrating the fact that we're on coast to coast in Canada.
	Glad to have you guys on board.
	Anyway, we'll get back to business here in a moment.
	Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Thanks for watching.
	All right.
	Back to it we go.
	You're on the air coast to coast, A.M.
	with our bell.
	Where, pray tell, are you calling from?
	Hi, Eric.
	I'm calling from the Golden Horseshoe area, which is in southern Ontario.
	Southern Ontario?
	Yeah.
	Oh, excellent.
	Well, near Toronto.
	Any idea why I could not... Does everybody in Nova Scotia sound like that man who called me?
	About this time of night, yes.
	I think what I got from it was that he wanted his area to split off, too.
	But I'm not sure.
	I think everybody lives on their own island in Canada.
	It's what you call a mosaic.
	Now, you know what a mosaic is, right?
	Of course.
	When you look, it's a bunch of little colors, and there's always pockets of people, whether they're in Nova Scotia or in Or out west.
	So he was just a pocket person?
	Yeah, well, I've been listening to you and there's lots of news about this UFO stuff.
	I personally don't believe it myself.
	I don't believe it whatsoever.
	We've got enough problems on Earth.
	So even if you were to see one, you wouldn't believe it?
	Um, yeah.
	I reject what I see.
	Yes, what you call a doubting Thomas, I guess.
	What flew over was probably a prank by some engineer students or something.
	Pretty good prank, I'd say.
	Well, I haven't seen it.
	I live in an area where there's more communications going on.
	I can get Howard Stearns, I can get Bill Carroll, I can get Sterling Fox in Vancouver.
	There's more radio and television uh... wave sure into the air in this region and anywhere
	else in the world both canada and american yes yeah i know i knew the name
	radio i don't and television stations i haven't seen
	uh... site fifty one i haven't seen your ufo well believe a lot of it do you have a do you have a
	computer well i have access to one
	You have access to one?
	I'll tell you what you do.
	At the library.
	Alright, well that's fine.
	You go up to my website and you take a look at the picture of Area 51 that you say doesn't exist.
	We've got a real nice photograph of it.
	Well, I didn't say that Area 51 didn't exist.
	I said that I didn't believe about the UFO.
	I know there's a lot of wide open spaces.
	My aunt lives in Phoenix.
	Hi Mary.
	What do you think they do up there?
	In Site 51?
	I have no idea.
	Americans are a very militarized country.
	They could be working on any manner of chaos or good works.
	I'm not sure.
	Good works.
	Secret.
	What about you Canadians?
	Do you have an area like that up there somewhere?
	We have plenty of open space.
	No, no, no, no.
	That isn't what I asked.
	I said, do you have an area like Area 51?
	An area like Area 51?
	Well, not too far down the road here we've got what's called the Manhattan Project area.
	And there was traces of radioactivity around here from that, from the 1930s.
	Well, I know, yeah, that's a long time ago.
	No, I mean something current, where they do secret stuff.
	Oh, secret stuff, hmm.
	Um, that has to do with UFOs or... Well, no, you're looking for a nuclear bomb.
	Like, uh, nothing's not out of the realm of, of, uh, of trouble like that.
	I can't dismiss it, so I would say that exists.
	But I don't believe in outer space aliens.
	It's a gimmick for selling television.
	You really think so, huh?
	Yes, I believe that.
	Well, everybody's entitled to their belief, but when you, I don't know, did you see the movie Contact?
	Nope.
	You didn't?
	No, I didn't see Contact.
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	You've got real good air there, don't you?
	In Canada, it's nice and cold and you've got good air, right?
	Well, yeah, up north.
	The southern part is more industrial.
	Well, sometimes when you get up north, you just look in the good, clear winter sky, and you'll see all those stars up there, zillions and zillions of stars.
	Those are all suns.
	The majority of them probably have planets going around them.
	Let me finish.
	One of the lines that they used in Contact, I thought it was quite Uh, profound.
	They said if you look up there and you contemplate all of that, if there aren't others, it sure is a big waste of space.
	Well, that's not our responsibility living on Earth.
	That's not our responsibility.
	Alright, well that's, yeah, I appreciate the thought.
	That's like saying, though, that man is not, if man had been meant to fly, why, the good Lord would have put wings on our back.
	That's kind of the way I look at it.
	You know, it's like saying that.
	We've been met five, we'd have weeks.
	West of the Rockies in Canada, presumably you're on the air, hello.
	Hi, how's it going, Art?
	It's going just fine, where are you?
	Burnaby, right on the border of Burnaby and New Westminster in British Columbia.
	Alright, welcome to the program.
	Yeah, just that guy back east is up a little bit past his bedtime.
	Well, I don't know, it was the first call I've ever had from Nova Scotia.
	They mostly talk like that back there.
	They've got an interesting Celtic sort of tongue back there.
	That's kind of neat then.
	I want another call from Nova Scotia to see if they're all the same.
	Well, they're not all the same in particular regions like Cape Breton and parts of Newfoundland.
	Was I getting it right?
	Was he sort of suggesting that Quebec go ahead and split off and he wanted to split off too?
	I had no idea what he was saying.
	You didn't get it, huh?
	I just wanted to tell you about the, actually to tell you about your last comment, talking about the, you asked if there was any sort of sites in around Canada or whatever, but we have one just off the coast of Vancouver Island called the Neuse Bay Testing Site, which right now they're in some sort of kerfuffle about the B.C.
	government wants to shut it down.
	What's it called?
	Tell me what it's called again.
	It's called the Neuse Bay Testing Site.
	Uh-huh.
	And what, pray tell, do they do there?
	They do underwater, supposedly they do underwater torpedo testing.
	Underwater torpedo testing?
	They've got a bunch of the bottom of the ocean and in that area it's like really soft silty sand and what they've got is a bunch of beacons placed all over the bottom and they track all the ships that go Well, that's like our SOSUS stuff that the U.S.
	has for listening to subs.
	Yeah, something to do with that.
	And now they want to, the B.C.
	government wants to shut it down over this fish war that they're having between Canada and the U.S., so I don't know what's going to happen there.
	But what I did call about was to ask you if you could investigate about the correlation between the U.S.
	government Grant, making a grant on the film industry.
	As you know, Vancouver is typically called Hollywood North.
	And I've heard through the grapevine that the American government... Are we subsidizing your movie industry?
	Is that what you're saying?
	No, what I've heard is that the Americans, the American governments, or parts or portions, I don't know whether it's the FBI or the CIA or whatever, some institute down in the States, Maybe the U.S.
	makes a grant for money and and they're able to use uh...
	the hotman with high tech uh...
	uh... military equipment in the movie as long as they apply for these grants
	and that the movie is somehow aimed towards getting the message out that
	uh... alien contact is here and supposedly one of my friends are from the u s government
	subsidized contact huh
	Perhaps.
	That's the thing.
	They're trying to desensitize the population.
	What did you think of that last guy who said, there's no way, it's all just hype, sell commercials or something?
	The last caller?
	Yeah.
	That was talking about the fact that he doesn't think that there's any life beyond this?
	That's right, that's right.
	I think that maybe the place where he lives, there's too much light and he doesn't ever get to see any stars.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, I kind of feel the same way.
	He needs to go north.
	I think I suggested it to him and said it scares him to look up in the sky like that, so he probably doesn't look up.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yes, I'm calling from Halifax.
	Halifax, Nova Scotia?
	Yeah.
	Well, now wait a minute.
	You sound pretty good.
	Well, why shouldn't I?
	Well, did you hear the other caller from Nova Scotia?
	Yeah, he's a Newfoundlander.
	He has a different accent.
	I just couldn't grasp his accent.
	Maybe you can help me out.
	What was he saying to me?
	What was he saying?
	Yes, sir?
	He was saying that he wanted to separate from Canada.
	I was right then!
	Yeah?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	He was talking about Quebec separating and I thought I heard him saying that he wanted to separate, too.
	Well, I can understand that.
	Where Churchill Falls is in Labrador, northern Newfoundland.
	Labrador is part of Newfoundland, although the people in Quebec believe it's part of Do you agree with him?
	Oh, totally.
	Totally.
	Look, I've always wanted to ask this.
	profit joey smallwood gave up uh...
	electricity to come back for next to nothing for ninety nine years so
	he probably pretty pissed off about that and doesn't want to do you agree with
	them or totally
	totally what's going on what look uh... i've always wanted to ask this what will
	happen to canada if go back and maybe nova scotia and other provinces
	separate is not going to mean the end of Canada as we know it.
	We'll see you next time.
	Well, I think the east coast of Canada should separate from the rest of the country because we've always been getting the bum deal.
	We're the oldest part of Canada and the rest of the government has just been more or less sucking us dry.
	So, I figure if we separate, maybe it will be the end of Canada as we know it.
	Yeah, but don't you worry that, I mean, how different is any government?
	Our government sucks us dry down here too, not perhaps to the degree that you're sucked dry, but then you'll have your own little area and you'll be sucking yourselves dry.
	Well, I think we'll prosper because we'll be able to export our goods to the rest of Canada, the rest of the world.
	We'll be a little more competitive.
	Maybe they'll be so ticked off at you they won't buy.
	Well, that's fine.
	We can keep our resources and use them ourselves.
	That's true.
	And then, I suppose, trade with the U.S.
	and Europe and Asia.
	Oh, sure.
	I mean, we're trading now, only we're not getting any of it.
	Well, there is also, in the proposition forwarded, that if the East does split, that the West, several provinces in the West, Yes, that's possible, and the East Coast may join with the U.S., which may or may not be a good thing, but I don't believe Canada is... Well, there goes your health care.
	Well, I mean, we don't have much for health care now.
	I mean, we do have health care, mind you.
	It's probably a little better than what we have in the States, but the money we're paying out in taxes more than covers what our health care costs are.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's socialism.
	Yeah, that's right.
	It definitely isn't democracy.
	What do you do in Nova Scotia?
	What do I do?
	I stay up all night and listen to these talk shows.
	Crazy talk shows like mine, huh?
	No, I do work.
	I'm self-employed and I work at night time.
	Well, that's how I get most of my listeners, that and insomnia.
	That's right.
	Here on the East Coast, we have quite a few strange places.
	We're not sure if they've been visited by UFOs or exactly what has happened.
	Did you hear the guy who called a little while ago and said he doesn't even look up in the sky because it scares him?
	And he doesn't believe any of this?
	Well, he must be from Ontario.
	Oh, I think he was, yeah.
	Yeah, well, they can't see the sky too well there.
	They've got a lot of pollution.
	Maybe it is true that if you live in a city all your life and you're used to having pollution, that to go, for example, up north, which is what he said, and to suddenly see the open sky would scare you.
	Yeah, well, a lot of people are afraid of that vastness if they've never experienced it.
	People on the East Coast, I think, appreciate the wilderness and our open skies, and we can see great Um, great things and weird things.
	I mean, not all of them are explained, but is it for us to understand everything?
	Maybe not yet, but I've got a feeling we're getting closer.
	Well, I hope so.
	All right, my friend, I've got to scoot.
	Thanks a million.
	Okay.
	Take care.
	Um, from Nova Scotia again.
	All right.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello there.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Okay, is this our bell?
	It is, indeed.
	Yes, hello.
	I'm calling from Vancouver.
	Vancouver, out west, yes sir.
	First time caller.
	And I have a question for you.
	Basically on CNN a few months ago, I heard some news about some archeological find out in Japan off of Okinawa.
	You've got it.
	They have located what appears to be a lost civilization.
	In the waters, off Japan and Okinawa, the Ryukyu Islands.
	That's right.
	And Linda Moulton Howe is going to be reporting on that, I believe, this next week.
	And they've got videotape on the way.
	Is she reporting on a, is this on TV or something?
	No, on my show.
	On your show?
	I don't know whether you, do you get Dreamland?
	No, I don't get Dreamland, no.
	Okay, well, I think, I think you do on CFund.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Check.
	See.
	Fun.
	Uh, Sunday evenings at about six o'clock.
	I see.
	I see.
	All right.
	Yeah, that was interesting because, you know, it was just like a, uh, a brief flash on CNN.
	And I said, well, hell, then we'll talk about it in the newspaper or something.
	That was just pretty important.
	Like you were talking about.
	Big story.
	10,000 years old and under 60 foot of water and precise cuts, like the steps of the temple and stuff like that.
	That was really interesting.
	I'm surprised you don't hear about it.
	So it's good to know that, uh, Someone's looking at you.
	No, it's real, and we'll get the story out here.
	Believe me.
	Yeah.
	All right?
	On Dreamland, right?
	Yes, sir.
	And then on coast as well.
	Yes, oh yes, they've located artifacts under the ocean off Okinawa, off the Ryukyu Islands, not far from Japan, and these are clear, unambiguous buildings and archaeological finds, so something Something was there.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey, Art.
	How you doing?
	I'm okay.
	Where are you?
	Gander, Newfoundland at the airport.
	Gander, Newfoundland.
	I'm as far east as you can get in North America and still be in North America.
	What time is it there now?
	It's right now 4... 4... 55 AM.
	So you're... I'm in the Atlantic time zone.
	Wow.
	I'm leaving on a plane for Ireland.
	My name's Patrick.
	Patrick, how you doing?
	Great to hear you.
	Very good.
	You're my first call from Gander.
	I've enjoyed your show for years.
	Well, really.
	I've been living in the United States, in Philadelphia.
	Uh-huh.
	And I'm flying out tonight.
	This will be the last time I'll be able to hear you for a while.
	But I get you on the internet.
	Well, you know what you can do?
	You can call me on our international line.
	Where is it you're going?
	I'm going to Shannon, Ireland.
	Oh, you can call me from there.
	Okay.
	Free, too.
	Good.
	Have you made note of that number?
	It's 800-893-0903.
	You get hold of the AT&T operator and tell her that's the number you want to call.
	Get into U.S.
	and then call that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, you have a great show.
	I have one correction for you on tonight's program.
	Alright.
	I listened very intently.
	Earlier when you were talking about the suitcase-sized nuclear warheads... Yes.
	You mentioned fusion.
	That's not fusion.
	No, no, no, sir.
	No, no.
	The caller said that he would like to use it for power.
	And I said, that would be fusion.
	And they haven't done that yet.
	I said, all you've got in a suitcase is a big bang.
	But you have fission.
	The warhead that's in the suitcase, a suitcase-sized nuclear weapon is fission.
	Fission.
	I understand.
	Whereas a hydrogen bomb or something more deadly than that, cobalt, what have you, that's fusion.
	Well, he was talking about a controlled fusion process.
	Right.
	That you could use for energy.
	Right.
	Okay, sir.
	I've enjoyed the call.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you from Gander, Newfoundland.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi, where are you?
	I'm in Vancouver.
	You're getting a lot of calls from Vancouver tonight.
	Well, of course.
	It's a big place.
	Yeah, we're in North Vancouver.
	First of all, I hope you had a good vacation.
	I did.
	What do I want to talk about?
	Well, one thing, I went from 105 degrees to about 65 degrees.
	Actually, the same time you were on your vacation, we were on ours.
	We were on a little lake up north, and for the first time, I got to experience what it's like to hear the sound of the radio come in and out.
	These are all reruns of your show, and I was still riveted, even though I'd heard the shows before.
	Oh, they were good ones.
	Oh, listen, I've been on the air so long now that It's like we've got a stock of shows that goes back years and years and years.
	We've got all kinds of goodies.
	I was at a movie the other day and I saw that there's a new 007 film coming out.
	And there was a quick, brief glimpse of him up north somewhere, but it sure looked like a mock-up of the harp array in that movie.
	Really?
	So that could be interesting.
	Gee, why even use a mock-up?
	Why not just go up there and film around the real thing, you know?
	Well, they were pretty close to it.
	All right.
	I've got to scoot.
	We're at the top of the hour.
	Thank you very much.
	Vancouver.
	Well, that was my Canadian hour.
	We're all over Canada.
	I'm glad to be too.
	I'm Art Bell.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	Dina Dell.
	I'm watching every motion in my foolish love's game.
	All this emotion blinding love's love's game.
	I'm running every time through the most secret stage of time.
	I'm watching every motion that you surround me with.
	Ain't no place like home.
	Ain't no place like home.
	Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
	Oh, I'm in a lucky way.
	Oh, I'm in a lucky way.
	Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight's program originally aired September 9, 1997.
	Once again, here I am.
	And, oh, we got started late on that break.
	I got a call and got distracted.
	Happens once in a while.
	Sorry about that.
	Board Ops Network.
	Sorry about that.
	Missed it by a few seconds or so.
	Anyway, it looks like we've blown up the Rogue Market.
	Whenever I mention the Rogue Market and people go up there and start buying stock like crazy, Um, we really blew it up this time.
	My name is gone and it's zeroed out.
	Don't worry.
	They'll get it fixed.
	Somehow.
	Isn't this a pretty song?
	I guess I've got to mention it less.
	We really blew it up this time.
	So, don't worry.
	By later today sometime, it'll get fixed.
	People go up there and go, oh, my investment zeroed out.
	It's not.
	It's just that we blew it up.
	This time, it actually blew my name right out of there.
	Hey, Rogue Market people, fix it.
	give my investors heart attacks.
	Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997 on Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Art.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	Say, a question on the 100 missing nukes.
	In your opinion, what organization would our country have that would be the most capable of trying to keep track of that type of thing and preventing some kind of disaster?
	CIA.
	Okay.
	You know, it seems like that we all feel the Cold War is over, the world's a safer place.
	Uh-uh.
	Not all of us.
	I've never felt that way.
	Well, I haven't either, and it seems like we want to cut funds or even dissolve The organization that would be most capable of preventing a disaster.
	Well, I agree with you completely.
	I don't know what to say.
	You're absolutely correct.
	It's what we're facing.
	It's again, and I'm not shamelessly plugging my book, or maybe I am, but it's a subject covered in there very extensively and I expected it I didn't quite expect a full hundred suitcase nukes to disappear.
	I mean, that's a little gross.
	But in the quickening of technology that you talk about, it seems like the world becomes more dangerous, not less dangerous.
	And if our best defense, first and best defense, would be somebody like the CIA, it seems to me that it's sort of absurd.
	Not the right time to be cutting our budget.
	Well, sure.
	No, you're absolutely correct.
	Of all the things that are, of all the waste there are in government spending, it seems to me, you know, if you look at the hundreds of millions of dollars that people donate to the Jimmy Swaggerts to save their soul, surely we can come up with a little money to the one organization that could save our backside.
	I hear you.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	No, he's right.
	Yeah, there's a lot more danger now to The continental US, Hawaii and Alaska, I shouldn't forget you, and Canada, there's a lot more danger to us now than there was then.
	There's no question about it.
	Things have become very loose in what was the Soviet Union.
	Very loose.
	And these things are getting out.
	Now, one of them is going to get used.
	It's going to happen.
	One of them is going to get used.
	Depend on it.
	It's a matter of where and when.
	When and where.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello there, Bill.
	It's me again.
	Um, Oriana, I'm calling... You're only allowed to call one time, dear.
	That's a rule of the show.
	Oh, please, Bill.
	No, no, no.
	One time per show.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Uh, yeah.
	Let me turn my radio off.
	Hold on a second.
	Alright.
	Good idea.
	Have it nearby so you can do that quickly because I don't... I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	That's alright.
	This is Art?
	Yes.
	Hey, I've heard a lot of people calling in there talking about being associated with men dressed in black.
	Yes.
	Well, they don't really know what they're talking about, because you start out with a brown suit, and then you go to a dark brown suit, and then you graduate to your black suit.
	Sounds like karate.
	Yeah, well, it sort of is.
	And a lot of times you'll see somebody in a gray suit.
	Now, the only way that you could know this is if you are yourself a MIB.
	Well, Art, I belong to an organization that is so secretive that I don't even know the name of it.
	That's really secret.
	Yes, sir, it is.
	And I can give you the name of a man dressed in black.
	Of course, he will deny it if you want to call him and interview him.
	Well, there's no point if he's going to deny it.
	Well... Trust me when I tell you.
	If I can open an MIB line, I'll get lots of men in black.
	Well, he's with a skeptical inquirer.
	His last name is Nichols.
	Now he will deny it.
	He'll deny it alright.
	They write articles about me all the time.
	They love my butt over there.
	A lot of people have questions about him.
	A lot of times he'll wear a light gray suit with suspenders and things, but don't let any of that throw you.
	Let's all write Dan a letter and demand to know the frequency.
	Okay.
	Alright, thanks for the call.
	That's a true story.
	but you you do you start out at brown go to dark brown when you work your way to
	black let's all right down a letter and demand to know the frequency
	okay arts and call that's a true story uh...
	those of you were perhaps not old enough to remember then rather some years ago
	was accosted by a man on the street who demanded to know the frequency
	Dan, of course, had no idea what he was talking about, or at least made out that way.
	And the guy was chasing Dan rather down, wanted to know what the frequency was.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Extinguish thy radio.
	Expect to get through.
	Well, see?
	You did.
	I've got, uh... Turn that radio off.
	All right, we'll turn the radio off.
	I just did.
	Good, all right.
	Now, the question was, how many city blocks would a one kiloton weapon destroy?
	Okay, so I went on the web and I did a search, and I got the information in kilometers.
	I don't know the exact translation between kilometers and miles, but I'm going to assume it's miles.
	Is it in kilometers?
	Kilometers would be about double.
	Miles.
	How many kilometers?
	It's, uh, we're talking about, well, we're talking about four miles square, or four kilometers square.
	Okay, so it would be a two-mile area then, roughly, would be gone.
	That's a lot of city blocks.
	Yeah, so we're talking about thirty-four, I'm assuming a downtown area, there's usually four square blocks per mile.
	Right.
	And so we're talking about sixty-four, if we're talking about four miles, By four miles, by four blocks per mile, we're talking about 64 square blocks.
	Okay, but we're not.
	Kilometers are half a mile.
	Kilometers are more than half a mile, aren't they?
	Uh, a kilometer is roughly double a mile.
	Roughly double.
	You're saying a mile is half a kilometer?
	Yeah, I think that's right.
	Okay, well I assure you I live in the United States and don't know kilometers from anything else.
	Well, a Canadian could help us out here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but it says, the thing that says 400 meters across and 70 meters deep would be the crater.
	Well, that would just be the immediate blast area.
	Right.
	And he, on this webpage, you want me to give you the webpage, Earl?
	No, I better not, because somebody did that to me not long ago and it was some horrible little... Okay, well if you search, I searched on AltaVista, I searched for nuclear, near bomb, near...
	Oh, range.
	Okay, uh, very good.
	Nuclear, bomb, and range in Alta Vista.
	We'll get you there.
	I don't give out unknown web addresses because usually it's some horrible little pornographic site somewhere.
	I shouldn't say usually, sometimes, and so I just don't do it.
	Wildcard line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, is this Bob from KDC Land?
	Yes, sir.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Before you went on vacation, you mentioned that you were going to have Story Musgrave on.
	I am going to.
	Okay, I just wanted to make sure that was still on.
	Yeah, Story called me and said that it would be about a month.
	He had a lot of things going on in his life and it would be about a month before he could be on, but he would call me as soon as he's ready.
	Okay, and one more quick thing.
	I sent you a fax.
	I know you don't remember, but I'll say it.
	I sent it.
	It was a Friday, August 8th.
	And it was three faxes, because I know that's your limit.
	And it had to do with a dog, Ginny, and 300 cats.
	You know what?
	I don't remember it.
	I remember 300 cats.
	Yeah.
	What about 300 cats?
	Well, this man and this dog find cats.
	I got a confirmation on it, and it was only three pages.
	You mean his dog chases and gets cats for the guy?
	Yeah.
	And what does he do with the cats?
	Some he keeps, some he stays and neuters and then tags them and sends them out.
	But I sent a fax.
	Why does he do that?
	Well, it's like three pages because the dog senses these cats and he goes and chases them and they're special cats like blind.
	Or they have brain tumors and stuff.
	This man was kind of hurt in his garage.
	He was injured and Jimmy the dog picked up on it.
	It was in a magazine in March.
	Pretty weird.
	Yeah, and he's been getting money.
	The local vet helps him.
	He's in New York.
	And he got from the magazine subscribers $6,000 including one check for $1,500 from Cher.
	Wow!
	Yeah.
	Well, that's quite a story.
	I don't know how I missed it.
	Thank you very much.
	A man who has a dog who gets cats who are injured.
	Probably a generally enjoyable job for a dog anyway.
	Dogs like to chase cats.
	It's in their nature.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	How are we doing, Mr. Bell?
	We are doing fine.
	Are you a doctor?
	Not really, but you know, just to be different.
	I see.
	I'm calling from Canada, actually, so good news.
	Oh, where in Canada?
	Quebec City.
	Quebec City.
	It's the second time I've phoned you, so I'll try to make it quick, but interesting.
	All right.
	All right.
	Hello, Time Travel.
	You had the Time Travel line open in early summer.
	That's right.
	And you had the pilot.
	The pilot.
	Oh yes.
	He was real good.
	The guy who flew into Area 51.
	What do you think of the idea of opening an Area 51 employee line?
	Well that's great.
	I'll be listening in for tomorrow to find out about that.
	But the pilot is not the guy who flew into Area 51.
	I'm not talking about that.
	I'm talking about the time pilot.
	Who is constantly improving on the future?
	Yes.
	And he said that if you took a newspaper ten years in the future, various events might not come to pass because of shifting timelines?
	That's right.
	Okay, well there's one theory.
	I had trouble with that because I recorded this conversation and I was listening to him and I had trouble with that.
	But there's one thing that gave me confidence in that theory because I know you believe in timeline shifts, right?
	Oh yes.
	Okay, well I had trouble with that theory but now I'm beginning to believe because you had that scientist on like two weeks ago.
	He has an Asian name.
	He was talking about... Michio Kaku.
	Yeah, if you go back and kill your father, he said that scientifically.
	He didn't mention the term timeline shift, but it sounded exactly like that, except in scientific terms.
	Well, no, that's exactly right.
	He said exactly the same thing, that yes, you might blink out or whatever in one timeline, but that wouldn't be true in another.
	Okay, at any conclusion, I would just like to add Then you might come with the chicken and the egg again, because is it the time travelers who are causing these shifts?
	Because if you didn't have any time travel, you wouldn't have any timeline shifts, right?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Alright, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Right.
	From Separatist Center in Quebec City.
	Yeah, tomorrow night an Area 51 employee line.
	Now that is going to be interesting.
	You want to sing?
	Tomorrow night's your chance.
	And I bet we get a zillion calls, too.
	We'll see.
	How many city blocks would a one kiloton detonation destroy?
	I do not have that answer.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	We're in Santa Monica.
	Are we in Santa Monica?
	Yeah.
	You know something, Art?
	You may be, but I'm here in Nevada.
	I figured that out.
	On TV you're going to see that we have a space probe went to Mars.
	Eventually someone will turn the TV on.
	It's going to go into orbit around Mars on Thursday evening about 10 o'clock.
	And we've already seen pictures and there's no landing site.
	No, this is not going to land, sir.
	It's going to orbit Mars.
	No, I'm talking about the outer space people would come here.
	What outer space people?
	Well, you keep talking about space people landing and taking people away and stuff like that.
	Well, you mean abductions.
	Well, let me explain something very slowly to you.
	Very slowly?
	Okay.
	I can take it fast.
	Okay.
	If there was any kind of spacecraft flying around with space people in it, they would obviously have some kind of form of communication.
	In fact, their communication level Would be higher than ours.
	I know.
	I know about their communication.
	You don't need to tell me about that.
	Oh, right.
	Now, see, they... You know what they do?
	They go, ak-ak-ak-ak-ak-ak-ak.
	Okay, now, you have the Internet.
	You have the TV system.
	We have the radar system.
	And we have the launch pad.
	Until this day, the only thing that you've got is some pictures which you put on your website.
	And what I'm trying to explain to you... Well, that's more than you've got.
	No, I don't believe...
	I have proof positive from this, what I saw on TV.
	Proof positive?
	Right, I saw... Because you saw it on TV?
	Right, because the spaceship went out there and I don't feel they would alter that information.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I saw it on TV and I believe
	it and I don't think they would alter that information.
	I'm...
	I think that's what I heard.
	Mwahahahaha!
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
	Sorry.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, good morning, Art.
	Good morning to you.
	I'm from Bonita Springs, Florida.
	Bonita Springs, Florida, okay.
	Yes, and I'm down here a little bit south of Fort Myers.
	Okay.
	And I've enjoyed your show since the beginning of April.
	In fact, April Fool's Day.
	I'll never forget that.
	Oh, man.
	And I've got so much to say, but I want to tell you that we have a group down here in Bonita Springs and Naples, and we go on 11 meter CB on side bands, and we have like a CUSO going.
	You know what I would say to you guys?
	What?
	Stay the hell off 10 meters.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	We're strictly Strictly 40 channel CB.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	And we enjoy your show out there.
	And I wish I could have a computer to find all the stuff that you have.
	Well, all things in good time.
	You know, computers are getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.
	Oh yes, yes.
	Pretty soon you'll be able to trade your 40 channel CB for one.
	Yes.
	Could you do me a favor and tell everybody in Bonita Springs and Naples that Silverboy said hi?
	Well, you just did that.
	All right.
	All right.
	Thank you and good morning, Art.
	Good morning to you.
	Bye-bye.
	See you later.
	Bye.
	Bonita Springs.
	Good buddy.
	Bonita Springs.
	West of the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, hi.
	It's Rob.
	I'm just in a little town near Kelowna, just in D.C.
	here.
	Washington, Washington, D.C.?
	No, D.C.
	First Columbia.
	D.C., all right.
	Yeah, I'll just let you know, a kilometer is five-eighths of a mile.
	Well, I knew it was close.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, just so you know, just so you know.
	You guys would know.
	You're the ones who would know.
	We're the ones that got stuck with it, yeah, somehow or other.
	Do you like the kilometer thing, or would you rather not Be using kilometers.
	Would you rather use miles like normal people?
	Um, I speak in miles.
	I grew up right when they sort of switched over, so I speak, I speak imperial and, uh, but I know both kind of things, so I like imperial much easier to deal with.
	I appreciate it, sir.
	I gotta run.
	Okay, thanks.
	Thank you and, uh, good night.
	So there you have it, five A's folks.
	Tomorrow on Area 51, employee line.
	and Your chance to sing like a bird.
	Be here.
	That's going to be fun.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	Dr. Am I on your loving? Baby I need your loving. Dr. Am I on your loving?
	Some say it's a sign of weakness or a way to be.
	Then weak I'd rather be. If it means having you to keep.
	Because lately I've been losing sleep.
	Baby, I need your loving, got to have all your loving.
	Baby, I need your loving, got to have all your...
	My life has fallen to lose and slowly it's been surrendered.
	Oh yeah, and I have left my destiny in quite a singular way.
	For the misery goes from the shelf and it's always repeating itself.
	I will be feeding you once more.
	Want you, promise to love me forevermore.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
	I really like this song.
	Can you tell I'm an Abba nut?
	Always have been.
	There's just something about them.
	There's something about their harmony.
	I'm not quite exactly sure what it is, but listen.
	I don't know. I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I like girls and I like harmony.
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	now let's go back to the night of september ninth nineteen ninety seven
	on our girls somewhere in time would somebody out there please email that the people over
	at the road market and tell them
	to somehow fix what's going on because When we get a lot of traffic over there, it crashes.
	And even now, it's crashed my name.
	And it goes zero, zero, zero, zero.
	And there's not even a name there.
	And if I was a stockholder, I'd be having a heart attack right now.
	I'd think, oh my God, I lost my shirt.
	But it'll be back later today.
	They'll get it fixed.
	Now, they need to do something to fix that, because I don't want to be giving heart attacks to my investors, even if it is just rogue dollars.
	Art, I just checked on the internet and the bombs used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were about ten kilotons each.
	So, I don't know how much damage one kiloton would do, but I know I would not want to have a front seat.
	Ron in Bellevue, Washington.
	And then this, for your information from Mike, the blast from a suitcase nuke would only level a short distance.
	Maybe a square mile.
	However, the resulting firestorm could take out a city the size of Indianapolis.
	That is from a Defense Department estimate.
	You know, I wonder who had these things last.
	It's not like one or two bombs are gone, but a hundred?
	A hundred bombs?
	A hundred suitcase bombs?
	Come on!
	One, two, even five.
	But a hundred, you would think they would notice.
	How many do you suppose they had stockpiled?
	What, did they have this great room, like hangar thing, full of suitcases, or what?
	Used to the Rockies?
	You're on the air.
	Yes, morning, Art.
	Good morning.
	I'd like to, uh... Anyways, I've... Something happened here, just temporarily lost my train of thought.
	Almost like watching Baywatch.
	Anyways, Hey, you know what?
	What?
	When I went to Alaska, you know who was on the ship?
	Baywatch.
	Baywatch.
	That's right.
	We got to cruise with Baywatch.
	It was extremely disconcerting all the way to Alaska.
	And they were filming a special Baywatch that will occur in 1998.
	And I have certain selected photographs that I took I may put them on... I've been contemplating whether I should put them up on the net or not.
	Oh shoot, why not?
	Well... Because... Because... Because a lot of the gals weren't wearing much.
	Well, that's all the more reason to.
	Anyways, for the suitcase, Bob?
	Yes?
	I have... I think I've thought of a good use for it.
	What?
	You could cure a multiple case of constipation.
	Yeah.
	Mass constipation.
	Yes.
	Brilliant, sir.
	We'll try to get you one as soon as possible.
	I think I spent too much time alone here.
	I think so, too.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, we were with Baywatch the whole time.
	The whole Baywatch crew.
	And I won't give away the plot, but it was a big one.
	This was like a massive Baywatch.
	Special, I don't know, one or two hours or something.
	There were plenty of photo ops, believe me.
	Bust of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey Art, how you doing?
	It's Steve.
	Hi Steve.
	And Steve, I just got finished cooking chicken and a little rigatoni.
	You know, listening to you gets me hungry.
	I don't know what it is.
	I don't either.
	But I want to ask you a question.
	This is usually against my character, but I've always been curious and never had enough courage to ask you.
	Every time, I don't have a computer, so every time somebody calls the web, what's your cut?
	Zero.
	Zero?
	Zero.
	I don't participate in that because of money.
	Right.
	And the network makes no money from it either.
	But it does cost money to get on the web.
	It would have to have a site for the other stuff on the computer.
	Well, these days, you can get on the web for, I mean, $19.95 flat rate.
	You can be on there 24 hours a day.
	Let me just say one more thing, Art.
	The bombs That are missing?
	Yeah, the nukes.
	The Steve's of America have got them.
	I rest my case.
	Yeah, well, alright, thank you.
	I have been getting a disproportionate number of faxes about the bombs from Steve's this morning.
	Particularly with respect to their use.
	Here's another one.
	The important question is not how many city blocks could a 1KT suitcase nuke destroy, but How far would Art Bell get in disassembling one before the rest of the world learned the answer to the above question?
	Hello?
	Hello there.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Michael from Los Angeles.
	Hello, Michael.
	Yes, I spoke to you yesterday about becoming a man in black, and you kind of gave me the runaround.
	I did not.
	I said you apply at Man in Black headquarters.
	Yeah, but you didn't give me a PO box, any kind of information, nothing.
	You've got to know I can't do that.
	Okay.
	Well, what would you recommend?
	I mean, if I just wanted to look into it and find out if I would qualify.
	Because I just, you know, I feel that I've done a lot of research.
	Well, you don't qualify.
	Based on what you told me yesterday, you thought men in black were researchers.
	Okay.
	And they're not.
	Okay.
	Can I make one more point?
	Yes.
	I don't know if you...
	Five freeway.
	Yeah.
	Going north toward Las Vegas.
	Right.
	The five that intersects with 15.
	The 15.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	There are streets which basically do not go anywhere.
	And this is part of my personal research.
	I don't know if you're familiar with places like Afron Road, which leads to 29 Palms.
	Yeah.
	But there are streets north of that.
	That go nowhere?
	Such as Zizek's Road.
	Zizek's Road?
	Yes, and Basin Road.
	It's a road that goes, basically it turns into a dirt road, which goes nowhere.
	Right.
	And part of my research, I wanted to know, is what are the purpose of these roads?
	Um, well, for one thing, you've got your radio on in the background, and that's a no-no.
	Okay, I'll turn it right off.
	And I don't think I have any ready answer for this.
	I'm familiar with Zizek's Road, but I Why would they build roads that go to nowhere?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	To make people like you call talk shows.
	Okay.
	I really don't have an answer.
	Okay, and about your book really quick.
	Yes.
	Okay, what are the main bookstores that carry your book?
	Well, almost anyone now.
	It began all Barnes & Noble.
	Barnes & Noble, Superstores, Bookstar, Bookstop, E. Dalton, Borders Books, Walden Books, blah blah.
	Would Book Empire happen to have that?
	I'm sure.
	Okay.
	If not, they can get it now.
	It's everywhere.
	Alright, well I'm just going to keep continuing on my hunt to learn how to become a man in black, because I feel like I've seen a lot, and I feel I deserve to be one.
	Well, you've got to go further to convince me.
	I mean, the thing on Zizzix was pretty good, but you've got a ways to go yet.
	I mean, I walked Zizzix Road, and let me tell you what's at the end of it.
	It's a great mystery, let me tell you.
	Well, alright.
	Perhaps if you solve something like that, Then you're a candidate.
	All right?
	Thank you for your time, sir.
	Yeah, you bet.
	I can't tell you where MIB headquarters is.
	Give me a break.
	Think I want to be cut down in my relative youth?
	I have more work to do here.
	Tomorrow night, Area 51 employee line is open.
	It is your opportunity to sing like a bird.
	Believe me.
	Your opportunity to sing like a bird.
	It's going to be an interesting night.
	I've never done that.
	I've opened lines for everything else under the sun, but never at Area 51 employees.
	So tomorrow night, we'll do that.
	Wild card line?
	Well, phooey.
	First time caller on the line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello, Art.
	Yes.
	This is Brad from Tyson, Missouri.
	Hi, Brad.
	Hey.
	I just wanted to know if you saw a commercial that I saw on Sunday.
	It's a McDonald's commercial.
	Involvement of what looks to be about 15-year-old kid and a cat.
	Did you see that?
	Not yet.
	I don't recognize it yet.
	I don't watch a whole lot of commercial TV.
	I watch the news and hardly anything else on commercial TV.
	Otherwise, I watch the movie channels.
	Oh, well, that works on the afternoon.
	I've got to watch Netflix because it's on.
	Well, Sunday I watched football, NFL football.
	That's about it.
	Well, I saw this cute little cat and I was like, I want to talk about all that.
	You would love it.
	I would love it?
	Yeah.
	All right, well I'll watch for it.
	All right.
	Maybe I'll, I'll prostrate myself and watch a little TV, all right?
	All right.
	All right, thanks.
	All right, bye.
	See ya.
	No, I haven't seen that commercial yet.
	McDonald's has done some pretty cute commercials.
	In fact, commercials are some of the most creative things on television.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
	Hey, this is Scott from South Portland, Carolina.
	How you doing?
	Okay, Scott.
	Hey, quick thing.
	I was just kind of bored here with a piece of paper.
	If the gentleman was saying four square kilometers, that would be roughly 25 blocks.
	That's, you know, four blocks a mile.
	Right.
	Well, that's about it.
	I was just bored.
	Oh, okay.
	So you were just doing the math for us?
	Yeah.
	Good to work the old brain.
	Do you think one of those suitcases is somewhere in the country already?
	It wouldn't surprise me with a hundred, you could just pick cities out at random and just start to push political points all over the place.
	It's not like we've got a real tight border, huh?
	Not at all.
	All right, where do you think they would hit?
	Not to scare anybody, I'd have to say New York or Los Angeles, the two big ones.
	Or Washington.
	Or Washington.
	New York or L.A.
	All right, thank you very much.
	Yeah, probably Wall Street.
	I've thought about that.
	Wall Street, that would be extremely disruptive.
	Los Angeles.
	I don't think L.A.
	It's too spread out.
	One kiloton's not enough.
	It would be disruptive.
	But L.A.' 's too spread out.
	You'd have more effect in New York.
	Or maybe the buildings, big and tall as they are, would shield things.
	I don't know.
	Political effect?
	Washington, D.C., of course.
	They were interviewing me on our new affiliate, WWRC, in Washington, D.C., the other day, and we were talking about this, and I said, you know, if I was in Washington, I'd be worried.
	Not exactly a way to endear yourself to a new affiliate, but I really meant it.
	That's probably the target of, the kind of target a terrorist would choose, or worse yet, and I really mean worse yet, Some sort of nuclear facility.
	You know, like a major plant of some kind.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello, Mr. Bell.
	Hello.
	This is Captain Terry.
	Okay.
	uh... the equivalent of one kiloton yield by the way is two million pounds
	of TNT and this is roughly equivalent to the blast of the uh...
	ammonium nitrate ship that was in the harbor in Halifax during World War One
	when it blew up and destroyed the entire city
	well I'll ask you the same question What do you think the odds are that one of those things is somewhere in the country now?
	Well, if you take a small pocket Geiger counter and start applying it to the trunk area of various taxi cabs, I think you'll probably find one.
	I would think that, thank you very much, if they were putting them in suitcases, the obvious use for such a device is stealth.
	To be able to transport it, it would probably be lined with something that would prevent easy detection.
	Wouldn't you think?
	I don't know how you do that.
	Lead-lined suitcase?
	Well, I don't know what you'd do.
	But I'm sure anybody ingenious enough to put one kiloton of a nuclear device in something the size of a suitcase.
	Would be ingenious enough to figure out a way that detection would be very difficult.
	I don't know.
	I know we have a special task force that looks for things like this.
	What, a hundred of them?
	A hundred?
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Argus.
	Chip, Memphis.
	How you doing?
	Okay.
	I just want to call... I don't know if you remember now, but you remember that guy named Stephen Gibbs?
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Time Machine Gibbs.
	Yeah.
	Remember he said something about the September nuke, some kind of nuclear explosion?
	I do.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, better Memphis than Pahrump.
	Nah, I don't think so.
	Well, you asked me what I thought.
	Yeah, well, there's more to do on the West Coast anyway, so you can have that.
	What do you think the odds are one of these foul little things has already made it into the country?
	I think it's about 50%.
	I would think it would be a great idea for their side to do that.
	I mean, they could detonate it from a remote area and they'd never have to launch a ballistic missile.
	That's right.
	So if you need something to be worried about, worry about that.
	That's all in my book.
	Believe me, it's a very substantial portion of the book.
	So none of this, none of it surprises me.
	None of it.
	You will find it, shamelessly, he plugs, in The Quickening by Art Bell.
	And go to your bookstore, wherever your bookstore is, and request it.
	If they don't have it, they can get it very quickly now.
	It's distributed nationwide.
	Check it out, check it out.
	Number 22, hardcover nonfiction.
	Number 6, hardcover nonfiction business on the New York Times bestseller list.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, Mr. Bell.
	This is Janet, and I'm from Kansas City.
	Yes, Janet.
	May I speculate where the bomb might go off?
	That suitcase bomb you were talking about.
	Well, you may.
	Seoul, South Korea.
	Oh, great.
	Yeah, great.
	That'd just be great.
	So then we would immediately have another Korean War.
	Wouldn't it be awful?
	I actually had a dream about it, though.
	You did?
	Yes.
	About three weeks ago.
	Our garment workers' bodies were flying through the air.
	Well, that would be a totally, completely horrible place for it to go off.
	It's worried me a little bit.
	And so it should.
	I appreciate your call.
	Thank you.
	Right, Seoul, South Korea, that'd be awful.
	Absolutely awful.
	All right, we're at the end, but I think I'm going to go out a different way this morning.
	It's with my dream girl.
	This is Crystal Gale.
	Gonna make my brown eyes blue.
	Have you ever seen this woman's hair?
	Do you know what?
	I don't know about you Mmm, mmm
	You found someone new Have you ever seen this woman's hair?
	And gonna make my breath blue You know, she has to be careful not to walk on it
	I'll be fine when you go And I got to meet her too
	I just cry on that note Saying it is untrue
	And don't I make my bright eyes blue You know when they named her they must have been talking
	about her voice Tell me some lies
	Give me no reason Give me alibis
	Tell me you love me And don't let me cry
	Say anything, but don't say goodbye.
	I didn't mean to treat you bad.
	Didn't know just what I had.
	But honey, now I do.
	And darling, make my day.
	Donna make my brada, Donna make my brada too Oh, and I like piano too
	Donna make my brada, Donna make my brada Don't I miss my brother?
	Don't I miss my brother too?
	Don't I miss my brother?
	Don't I miss my brother?
	Don't I miss my brother too?
	We'll just have to do that toward the end here.
	That's it, folks.
	We'll be back tomorrow night, and we'll have open lines once again, with one exception, and that is the Area 51 employee singing line.
	That should be very, very interesting.
	You watch.
	We'll get the calls.
	Pass the word.
	Area 51 employees tomorrow night.

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