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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring coast-to-coast a.m. from September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many prolific time zones, stretching from way out in the Pacific to the Eastern and Hawaiian Island chains, eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the Pole, and worldwide on the old internet.
		This is close to close AM.
		And I'm Mark Bell.
		Great to be here.
		And tonight is all yours.
		It's going to be open lines all the way through.
		No doubt we'll get into some kind of trouble.
		Lots to talk about.
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		That's KTBR FM.
		Glad to have you on board.
		Now, let me begin with Daniel Brinkley.
		I got a call from Daniel earlier today, and we talked for about a half hour.
		Guess what, folks?
		It looks like Daniel is going to make it.
		It is a miracle.
		Question mark?
		Here's where we stand.
		The three aneurysms that he has have all ceased bleeding.
		All three.
		The blood clots remain, but the signs are that they are dissolving.
		Now let me tell you something.
		Danion was a dead man when he got there.
		Again, Danion had 10 to 15 clots even as these things began to stop bleeding.
		His head was brain was full of blood.
		And he had 10 to 15 clots.
		Now, there are indications those clots are dissolving so far harmlessly.
		Now, this doesn't mean he's out of the woods, but I'll tell you he sounded pretty good.
		Next couple, he's going to be, they tell him he'll be in the hospital for another week, and they're going to have to readjust his medication so this doesn't occur again because of the chances of it occurring again once it's happened or unfortunately better.
		However, he's going to be out of the hospital if everything continues as it is in a week.
		Off the critical list.
		And I'm telling you, and he's telling you and will tell you, you'll hear from him.
		He may.
		I said, Daniel, when are you going to bed?
		And he said, oh, around 2.30 or something in the morning.
		He said, they come wake me up every two hours to see if I'm asleep.
		So it looks like Daniel is going to make it.
		And he wants to thank you, and I want to thank you.
unidentified		He says it's the power of prayer that did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said he could feel it all around him.
		I know to some people it sounds hokey, but he said it was like a blue aura all around him.
		And I differ only a little bit from how Daniel feels about it because I'm not sure.
		I absolutely have no question in my mind the power of prayer is real.
		I really have no question in my mind the power of prayer is real.
		Now, I'll get myself in trouble, I'm sure, by saying I don't know why.
		CNN, interestingly, coincidentally, maybe not, over the last several days has been running a story on the power of prayer.
		And they interviewed a physician, and it's widely known that somewhere between 70 and 90% of the time, placebo pills work.
		In other words, if you take a placebo and you believe it to be good medicine that's going to cure your ill, whatever your ill is, then 70 to 90% of the time you get better.
		Even though you're taking nothing but what, you know, sugar or whatever kind of substitute, something or another they'd be giving you that is actually medically negligible or has zero value.
		That's a placebo.
		And this doctor on CNN was talking about the belief, faith, that the key appears to be faith.
		Now, so I'm not so sure.
		You know, I'm not positive that I put the name God to it.
		I think our brains have powers that we don't understand, both in being able to heal ourselves and others.
		And Daniel, when he was about to die, did a very interesting thing.
		He was in an intensive care ward with a whole bunch of other people.
		He said, you've got to get me out of here.
		He said, people all around me are dying.
		And he has a lot of compassion for those who are dying, but he was himself dying.
		And he was trying to go into an internal mode of concentration to go to work on himself.
		And he couldn't do it because, as you know, Danian hears and feels everything around him.
		So he got himself in a private room in intensive care.
		He is one of the most remarkable people that I've ever known in my whole life.
		So in the next day or two, if he happens to be up at the hour that I'm on the air, We'll get Daniel on the air, and I'll let you listen for yourself.
		Boy, what a remarkable man.
		And it might bear a little discussion on the power of prayer.
		Personally, I don't make the automatic leap.
		I believe in the power of prayer, but I'm not sure why it works.
		And I know I'm going to get lectured till the cows come home about that one.
unidentified		Well, it works because God hears us or it answers question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it answers prayers.
		Well, I would enjoy that to be true.
		I'm simply not absolutely positive it's true.
		And I'm that way with most things.
		It haunts me.
		And those who have faith, I have a great deal of respect for.
		Faith, meaning or defined as something that you absolutely believe in, though you cannot prove.
		Anyway, there you are.
		That's good news.
		And Danien sounded a lot better.
		Not out of the woods, because a clot could still let go that would give him a stroke and kill him.
		But the doctors are not operating, and they are suggesting that they're seeing a miracle.
		You tell me.
		Okay, so that's your update on Daniel.
		You may hear from him in the next couple of days.
		I laughed when he said, you know, they keep coming in every two hours to wake you up, make sure you're asleep.
		Not dead, I guess.
		I don't know.
		Well, I got a really pleasant surprise earlier today.
		Do you remember, on top of Daniel, do you remember yesterday I told you that my book, The Quickening, I'm so excited, debuted at number 22 on the nonfiction hardcover bestseller list?
		Well, it sure did.
		And then my publisher looked a little further and they've got a business bestseller list as well, New York Times business bestseller list, and it debuted as number six.
unidentified		Number six.
unidentified		In the first week, number six blew me away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although I see why, I understand why.
		The full title on the front of my book is The Quickening, Today's Trends, Tomorrow's World.
		And as you well know, part of that is the environment and economics business.
		And so I see how it ended up here, but what a shock.
unidentified		What a shock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First week out nationally.
		Number six.
		They abused number six on the business bestseller list.
		I'm so proud I could burst.
		I can't believe it.
		So thank you all.
		That is not really the, you know, wasn't really the thrust of the book.
		But of course I did cover that in a couple of chapters, The Economics.
		You can get that book now, my book, anywhere in the country.
		Just go into any bookstore and ask for The Quickening by Art Bell.
		It's selling like crazy.
		Amazing.
		It is amazing.
		It's like having a baby.
		and it's like watching your baby grow up haha The other side of the coin, an awful lot of the other things in that book are obviously underway right now.
		And we can talk about that if you want.
		I got a very, very interesting call, and I will not embarrass the lady who must have been a very, very nice lady.
		I got a fax, an urgent fax earlier today from a brokerage firm.
		And I won't even tell you where, a major brokerage firm.
		And this man said, you've got to help me out.
		He said, I've got a client who has ordered me to find out how I can buy.
		And I can't find the initials for it, but she absolutely says she will not settle for anything but buying Art Bell stock because she says it's gone up 700% and it's about to split.
		And I must find out where I can buy this for her immediately.
		Flash importance.
		So I called him back and I said, is your client perhaps a very nice, very old, rich lady?
unidentified		And he said, yeah, how'd you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, well, I said, have you ever heard of the rogue market?
		And he said, no.
		And I said, it's not the real stock market, sir.
		And then I explained what the rogue market was to him.
		That like two or three thousand personalities, public figures, politicians, sports figures, movie stars, talk show hosts, blah, blah, blah.
		They're all in this place called the rogue market, and it's exactly like the real stock market, only it's not real.
		Except to the degree that if you do real well, you might win a t-shirt, you know, or something, coffee cup or something.
		Something like that.
		He laughed.
		The guy about fell on the floor.
		It was several seconds before he recovered.
		And I'm sure he gave his client a call and said, I'm sorry.
		But you can get your RPL stock.
		This is going to be a wild week on the rogue market.
		I've had more fun with that.
		This has been really a lot of fun.
		And it turns out in the rogue market, I found out about a month ago, there is a section devoted to talk show hosts.
		And they're all, all the major syndicated talk show hosts in America are in there.
		Rush, Laura, Howard, myself, oh, I think Bruce Williams, And on and on and on.
		There's a whole bunch of them in there, probably 10, at least.
		And so I've been urging people, yeah, go up to the Rogue Market.
		It's with a link on our page.
		Just click on the Rogue Market, buy Art Bell Stock, it says, or something.
		Keith might have changed it by now.
		And go over to the Rogue Market.
		He filled a little form, and they give you $10,000 Rogue Dollars.
		Fill out another little form, and they give you $5,000 more.
		So you've got $15,000 Rogue Dollars, and you can go buy stock.
		Then you go to the listings area after you've registered and buy stock.
		And I'm telling you right now, my stock is surely going through the roof.
		And so you can make a lot of money, but the faster you get up there, the better.
		If you wait, then you're going to be helping somebody else make profit.
		That doesn't mean you won't make profit, but the earlier you get in there, obviously, as massive people pour in, which they're doing because it's going through the roof, you're going to make lots of rogue dollars.
		Anyway, that was sweet.
		And so to that little 79-year-old lady out there, wherever you are, thank you, dear.
		I appreciate your interest.
		And she was just all set to dump her money into Arpell stock.
		Real money.
		Real money.
		As they say more in a moment.
unidentified		As they say more in a moment.
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		What's your take on disclosure?
		Do you think it's going to ever happen?
		I don't think government is going to come out and say, we've been visited, this has been going on.
		What do you think's going?
		Most people in the United States believe that UFOs are real and the government's covering up something about it.
		So when they say, well, now that you mention it, that wasn't a weather balloon at Roswell, that was a UFO that came down, people yawned and said, yeah, so what?
		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell, Somewhere in Time With respect to last night's program, this.
		Hello, Art.
		I don't want to take up much of your time, but I thought you might find this story interesting.
		A little over three years ago, I began going to a tech school to learn about computer repair.
		During my second semester, our class got into digital and analog electronics.
		During the course, we discussed the invention of the transistor and the microchip and how it revolutionized modern electronics.
		During class, we were told the invention of the microchip was a huge leap in technology, because before it, there were just large vacuum tubes and transistors.
		I couldn't understand how this large leap took place, from tubes to etchings on a silicon, to silicon overnight, just didn't sit well with me, so I asked my teacher how it occurred.
		His answer was, it just did.
		So after a few days, I went to my first semester electronics teacher and posed the very same question.
		This teacher had worked for NASA in the early days of the Gemini project.
		I thought since he was involved with the early leaps in technology, he'd have some insight as to how the leap occurred.
		When I asked him, he said it wasn't so much invented as it was deciphered.
		My reply was, huh?
		Deciphered from what?
		I can't say, he said.
		Why not?
		I asked.
		His answer was, look, I could still get into trouble.
		Let's just say that, and I quote here, no one on earth could have made that leap without a little help from above.
		What do you think, folks?
		He meant God?
		Then he said, you shouldn't worry about it.
		You don't have to understand how or why it happened to understand how it works.
		Trust me.
		With that, he picked up his coffee mug and left the room.
		Since that day, I've done a little research, and I believe this leap was either given to us or we found it out in the desert.
		Anyway, I hope you find this interesting.
		Keep up the good work.
		Signed, Lance.
		I thought that was a particularly interesting facts.
		Don't you think so?
		A source now says, new tests show the driver in the Paris car that killed Princess Diana had blood alcohol levels.
		Three times the legal limit.
		The source who asked not to be identified says the post-mortem tests also show Henry Paul had traces of antidepressant drugs in his system.
		Whoa, so now we're talking about three times the alcohol level and pills.
		The source says the antidepressants could have boosted the debilitating, which certainly would have, effects of the alcohol Paul consumed before the crash.
		Sora says the latest tests confirm earlier tests indicating Paul was drunk at the wheel.
		Well, I told you at the time, that was my guess, that what we were dealing here with for the most part, despite everybody's paparazzi pursuit, was a drunk driver.
		And it looks like that's exactly what it was.
		There's one more item here before the bottom of the error, I guess it is.
		And that is, Paula Jones, I guess, is dismissing her lawyers.
		It's because of a disagreement, and the reports I've been getting suggest that they want her to settle for three-quarters of a million dollars or something.
		And she said no.
		She said, what I want is an apology.
		In other words, she wants to clear her name.
		Well, the president may never make that apology.
		Probably won't.
		Well, you know what?
		I say, Paula, right on.
		The lawyers, of course, want their piece of the action.
		And, you know, how can you divide up an apology, right?
		So I say, hang in there, Paula.
		If it's your reputation you want back, then you've got every right to hang in there, get yourself a new lawyer, somebody who will follow your instructions.
		Makes sense to me anyway.
		Congratulations, Paula.
		Hang in there.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		Without your love, oh, baby, don't leave me this away.
		I can't accept.
		I surely miss your tender kiss.
		Don't leave me this way.
		Baby, my heart is full of love and desire for you.
		Now go down and do what you gotta do.
		You burn it fire down in my broken.
		Now can't you see it's burning the high-class cold?
		The End
		The End
		If you feel that time might still be by.
		Every time I think about it, I won't cry.
		with bombs and the devil.
		They're waiting with ease and time to be young.
		They look here, they keep coming.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I wrote a book called The Quickening, which is now zooming up on the New York Times bestseller list.
		No kidding, nobody's more amazed than me.
		Absolutely amazed.
		Check it out.
		Go into your bookstore, wherever your bookstore is, and ask for The Quickening by Art Bell.
		I think you'll find it a little scary, perhaps, but right on the money, I'm sorry to say.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Art Bell All right, one other item here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art, I'm surprised that no one commented on the missing Russian nukes during your open line segment last night.
		Well, I bet they will tonight.
		I'm saying that.
		I may have missed it, but I'm telling you, if 100 one-kiloton nuclear warheads being lost doesn't scare you, then you just can't be scared.
		I'm guessing that Ed Dames is already working on this, are you, Ed?
		If he isn't, it certainly qualifies as a project worthy of his talents and other remote viewers as well.
		Maybe we could get enough of General Alexander Levitt's voice without the translator for David Oates to go to work.
		Oh, that's an idea.
		By the way, David, well, You might also consider interviewing Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, who wrote One Point Safe, the book mentioned in the 60 Minutes segment.
		Art, this is definitely a quickening item.
		No cutting.
		By the way, he says, congratulations on making the New York Times Bozilaru is great.
		That's Donald listening to 810 AM KCMO.
		50,000 watts of attitude.
		I always thought that was a great slogan.
		50,000 watts of attitude.
		What use other than terrorism would any of us have for a one-kiloton suitcase nuke?
		And that's what's missing, according to Levin.
		A hundred suitcase, one-kiloton nuclear weapons that can be set off by a single individual in 30 minutes according to Reuters I bet there are uses other than terrorism for such a weapon now what would they be you could play cool fun games at home you know and start the clock ticking backward and then see if like when it got down two seconds or
		One second, you could real quick press the button and stop it, you know, if you're into that kind of thing.
		And I don't know, I was trying to think of other uses for a good suitcase nuke.
		You could lower the taxes in your region, but that's terrorism.
		What else could you do with it?
unidentified		I'm going to give that one a little thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If anybody has any thoughts about what you would do with a one-kiloton nuke in a suitcase, what would you do with it?
		All right, open lines.
		Anything you want to talk about is absolutely fair game.
		I've got more here, but I'll hold it.
		East of the Rockies, you are on the air first up tonight.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Am I on the air now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, you are.
		I don't screen calls.
		Now, see, you're listening to your radio saying to yourself, am I really on the air?
		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		I have no response then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have no response?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then why did you call?
unidentified		Is this the Art Bell Show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you to turn your radio off.
unidentified		Okay.
		Come on, turn it off.
		Do you have a number where I can reach you in private sometime?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, just this one.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got something you want to say?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say it to everybody.
unidentified		Not at this time.
		I'll give you a call later, possibly.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was worthless.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look.
		This is an open forum where I don't screen calls, just in case you didn't know.
		I don't screen calls.
		You want to communicate with me privately?
		Write me a letter.
		Send me emails.
		Send me a fax.
		Something like that.
		But don't call me on the air and say I want to say something private to you.
		We don't do that here.
		This is open line, unscreened talk radio.
		You know, it borders at times on insanity on the roll, but that's what it is.
		And so you can't.
		Don't just call me up and tell me you need to talk to me privately.
		Hello there on my international line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Jim in Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
unidentified		Hey, I just want to say, wow, what a great bunch of news with that miracle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, there's a lot of ways you can look at it, but I think it qualifies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think it qualifies.
unidentified		Yeah, and I also just wanted to say to the world that I'm experiencing a divine transformation myself.
unidentified		Life is beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what are you transferring?
unidentified		Oh, just old ways, old ways of living.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Old habits, you know, like cigarettes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean you're going back to smoking them?
unidentified		Oh, no, I'm getting off of them.
		Oh.
		I've been off them for a month, and it's just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the old ways are to smoke.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they used to smoke, even the Native Americans smoked peace pipes and stuff, right?
unidentified		Yeah, but I think...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I think you've got it backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The old ways are to smoke.
unidentified		But I think that it was a little cleaner back then.
unidentified		They weren't smoking the paper and all the chemicals, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess that could be true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, even people who chew raw tobacco supposedly get cancer, right?
unidentified		Yeah, that's true, too.
		I guess they get it in their mouths.
		Yeah.
		Anyway, I just wanted to tell America that I'm experiencing a divine transformation, and everybody can receive one.
		How?
		Just by asking and believing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Faith.
unidentified		Faith.
unidentified		That's the word, faith.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		Well, that's what the doctor was talking about.
		Faith.
		That it didn't seem to matter in what.
		And I know that's going to bother a lot of people, including me, in a lot of ways.
		But faith seemed to be the key.
		That's what he said.
		And I thought it was a wise comment.
		He didn't attribute it to God, necessarily.
		He didn't rule it out.
		He said faith in God is one form of faith.
		But if you have faith that a little pill that has nothing but sugar in it is going to cure your ill, and then 70 to 90 percent of the time it does, then I think we're talking about the power of our own brains, which we continue to vastly underestimate, in my opinion.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Good morning, Art.
		I'm Ann from Clearwater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Ann.
unidentified		Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
unidentified		I bet you've never had anybody from Clearwater, Florida before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where the Marion apparition is.
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you, I just lost my husband over the weekend, and you're a great source of comfort to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad.
		Thank you, Ann.
		I'm sorry for your loss.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		I really enjoyed hearing Al Taylor.
		He was very wonderful, I thought.
		And I have a question about your book, The Quickening.
		Far away.
		Well, I'm one of your many blind listeners, and I'm wondering if you have donated a copy of your book to the Library of Congress for them to put either on tape or in Braille.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so they will do it.
unidentified		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They will do it?
unidentified		I hope so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm asking you.
unidentified		Yes, they'll do it, but...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, ho, ho, ho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me get to my publisher on that one, because otherwise I'm facing doing it myself.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Well, I am both a tape and Braille reader, but I prefer Braille, because I've read Braille since I was in third grade, and I'm a very old lady right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will call my publisher.
unidentified		Wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right?
unidentified		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That might get me off the hook.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have been dreading it.
unidentified		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it's coming.
		I did it with my last book.
		You know, I did an audio tape, and it's like reliving the whole thing.
unidentified		thing again uh-huh and if they will do it oh i'll do but listen i'll call in the morning thank you wonderful uh well uh i'm i'm enjoying your uh open lines tonight, and I've tried to get through many, many nights.
		As a matter of fact, I got through twice tonight, but the lady recording cut me off.
		You know, your party hasn't answered and all that business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, well, I've got a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you had a suitcase, one kiloton nuclear device, what would you do with it?
unidentified		Well, I really don't know because I'm kind of at a loss about what to do about anything right now because my husband's only been dead for two and a half days and I'm sort of floating in limbo myself right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That I understand.
unidentified		So I can't really think of anything like that.
		I don't feel any resentment for that.
		As a matter of fact, I believe very strongly in reincarnation, even though I'm a conservative Jew, because I have a very strong, inbuilt visual sense, although I haven't seen since I was four and a half months old.
		And I believe that were I to come back again, I would come back as a fully sighted person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that may be exactly right, ma'am.
		I sure wish you better times, and they will be better.
		Only time will take care of that.
		Yes.
		And I thank you for the call.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
unidentified		I enjoyed talking to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		I also happen to believe more than not in reincarnation.
		And there are indications that there was a lot of original text about reincarnation in the Bible that it was taken out.
		And I believe that, too.
		It's all about control.
		And if there is reincarnation, then there is, or there was thought to be originally, less control.
		Right?
		Who's going to fear death if you think you're going to be back?
		And so people long ago took out a lot of the reincarnation stuff in the Bible.
		I tend to believe that's probably true.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I didn't push the button.
		Here we go.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Yes, hi.
unidentified		This is Jackie in Pinellas Park in St. Petersburg, Clearwater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, the Amerian apparition area.
unidentified		Yeah, I tend to think, Art, that it's more like what the St. Petersburg Times newspaper said, and that is basically is water deposits because we have hard water down here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it might be, but the one thing that surprised me was vandals came along, I guess, right, and sort of did it in for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then it cleared itself up.
unidentified		Yeah, and you know, every time I pass her, when I'm going north in U.S. 19 to clear water, and I go past that, they seem to have a police guard on it now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not surprised, but I was pleasantly surprised when I heard it cleared itself up.
		Now, that is fairly impressive, no matter what you believe.
		That's kind of impressive.
unidentified		I agree.
		Just one quick, in fact, two quick questions are.
		On Friday, just before the funeral started for Lady D or Princess Die, you know, our local station here in St. Petersburg cut you off with a very, very interesting guest because I've tried to work with out-of-body exercises for years, been to the Monroe Institute, Gateway Program, etc.
		I have met and talked with Joe McMonacle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, oh, yes.
unidentified		A very fascinating man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He sure is.
unidentified		And, you know, hopefully you can get that guest back again because, you know, they cut us off at 0400 Eastern Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how about this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I go on my vacation to Egypt and so forth, I'll have them replay that show.
unidentified		Sounds great.
unidentified		And would you please tell some of the newer listeners like myself about your encounter with a flying saucer close-up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will, yeah, I'll consider doing that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only problem I have with that is I don't want to bore everybody to death.
		I mean, I have one very close encounter.
		As close as you get without having it land and take you on board or something.
		That close.
		But I don't want to bore everybody.
		I've told the story so many times now that I don't want to bore people.
		If I get enough requests for it, I'll do it.
		Otherwise, you know, it takes a while to tell it right and properly and truthfully.
		And so let me think that over and we'll go by requests here.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, good morning.
unidentified		I'd like to know if you have an update on how Francis did today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm waiting for that.
		It should be coming in any minute.
		I'm sorry, I have no idea.
		Somebody in Phoenix should call us immediately, or Francis, if you're out there, call my private number.
		I'm sorry, I don't know yet.
unidentified		Catherine, this is my one question for tonight.
unidentified		Thank Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		Yes, of course.
		The moment we know, we'll pass it on.
		I don't know.
		Win or lose, we'll find out.
		Maybe it's close and they're still counting.
		I just don't know.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Debbie in Catalina, Arizona.
		Welcome.
		Hi.
		You know what?
		The other day I was listening to Rush Limbaugh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he had this guy named Roger on.
		I don't know his last name.
		He was a journalist from Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And Roger said that he interviewed Di a couple months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he said, what's the first thing that pops into your head when you think of the United States?
unidentified		And she said, Perhumps, Nevada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She did not.
unidentified		Yes, and she's an avid fan of yours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lie.
unidentified		No, I'm not.
unidentified		That's what he said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lie, you lie, you lie.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
unidentified		Di knew Perrumps, Nevada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody would have told me that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, where did you hear this?
unidentified		It was a journalist from Washington, and he filled in for Rush Limbaugh last week.
unidentified		I guess Rush was on vacation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		He said when he interviewed her that was the first thing that popped into her head when she thought of the United States.
		No, I'm not.
		You could try to get in touch with that guy and ask him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, lots of people listen to Rush, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So a lot of people would have heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I would have, if that really was what was said, I would have had a lot of faxes, I think.
unidentified		You think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what I'll do.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll throw it out to the audience right now.
		If this lady is right, fax me and tell me.
		If you heard it too, call me, fax me, email me.
		was that really said i mean i'll just Oh, that's a heavy swear.
		Have you ever seen those movies where they got the guy strapped down and the needle's going straight for the center of his pupil?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming down from above?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've never seen that?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Horrible.
		Horrible.
		So that's a big swear.
		All right.
unidentified		Bye.
		Bye.
		No.
		Could that be true?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Could that really be true?
		Now that would blow me away.
		Anybody else hear that?
		Somebody coming in for Rush?
		Guy said, what do you think of when you think of America?
		He said, from Nevada.
		I don't know if I buy that.
		We'll see.
		First time caller line, you're on here.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes.
		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Bill from Cleveland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bill.
unidentified		I hope Mr. Brinkley is feeling better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you heard me.
unidentified		Well, that's good.
		I hope his prayers are answered.
		I'm sure they will be.
		Art, I wanted to talk to you about something.
		Pardon me for being a little nervous, talking to 10 million people.
		Don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't think about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't even talk about it, or you make me nervous.
unidentified		Okay.
		I'd like to talk about utopia.
		Okay.
		I know on your problem, on your program rather, you deal with many New Age subjects.
		Sure.
		And it seems in, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but in the New Age movement, there's a lot of talk about utopia, about consciousness raising and a better day over the horizon.
		Sure.
		But you know, there's one thing, and maybe some of your guests could call and share their thoughts on this.
		One thing that bothers me about the New Age movement, and this is what it is, it's the word conformity.
		And Heaven's Gate comes to mind.
		All the people, we saw them on television, they all had kind of a mindless, blank stare on their face.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, they didn't.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nope, nope, they didn't.
		No, sir, they didn't.
		No, they did not.
		Well, I mean, look, I would like to say you're right, and that accounts for what they did.
		But you're not right.
		These people, no matter what else you say, they were happy.
		They were settled in their mind about what they were doing.
		They seemed very bright.
		Thank you.
		Every indication is they were very intelligent.
		They certainly are articulate.
		I've interviewed a number of, one of the survivors, and I may interview another.
		He wants to get on the program.
		But the fact of the matter is, I found them to be articulate, bright, not typically what you would think of as sort of blank-eyed, cult-type people.
		No, I can't agree with that at all.
		All right, we've got a break.
		It's coming up toward the top of the hour, and we will continue with nothing but open lines.
		It's all yours tonight.
		I'm Art Bell.
		I'm yours tonight as well.
		This is Coast to Coast.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from September
		9th, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		Love is good, love can become.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		Do you remember that day?
		I'm sorry, baby.
		When you first came my way I said no one could take your way And if you get hurt If you get hurt I've got little things like the rain I can set a smile back on to your home, baby When it's all right and it's coming on We've got to get right back to where we started from
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Well, ask and ye shall receive.
		Guess who I've got on the telephone?
		Francis Hemma Barwood in Phoenix.
		Frances, welcome.
unidentified		Hi there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Frances, how did it come out?
unidentified		I won.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You won.
unidentified		I won.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you won.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, the results are now final.
unidentified		That's it.
		And I got 47%.
		The next one got 31%.
		And the last one got somewhere around 20%.
		Ooh.
		And they outspent me probably, oh, goodness, probably by about 5 to 1.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		5 to 1.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have they already given their little concession speeches?
unidentified		I don't think that their lips moved in that fashion.
		No, huh?
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's probably an internal.
unidentified		Kind of, yeah.
		Well, you know, it's been interesting.
		It's just been real interesting.
		As a matter of fact, one of them that ran against me is in a runoff for the regular council election.
		So he's one of two other candidates.
		You know, him and another whole different candidate is running for the four-year term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, the mayor was running his own candidate, right?
unidentified		Well, that's one of them that's in the runoff.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, I mean, it was part of this recall against you, right, was one of the candidates?
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what does that say about the mayor?
unidentified		Well, what's interesting is, you know, if you go back over this whole thing from the very beginning, including the zoning case, which is something that he worked on, I didn't.
		Uh-huh.
		And then when we get to the most recent thing, which is the Lights Over Phoenix, and it was something that I asked about, and all he did was make fun of me and not want to answer any questions, and it really makes you wonder, you know, what his agenda was as far as running a candidate against me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly does, doesn't it?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So maybe in the next, will there be another council meeting between now and the next three months?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe tomorrow you should go in, and when the question part comes up, when you can ask, ask if you could possibly revisit the question of the Lights Over Phoenix.
unidentified		Well, you know, tomorrow, and as a matter of fact, our regular policy session should have been today, but they canceled it because it's Election Day, and next Tuesday would have been the next policy session, and those are the sessions that are on TV, and those are the ones we can ask the questions at, and that one was canceled.
unidentified		So all we've got is a formal session tomorrow and a formal session next week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		But I think what I'm going to do is put it in memo form written and ask again for a written reply, so we'll see what happens then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know there are certain media people down in Phoenix who have been on your case as well, and I hope they all eat fertilizer and get the flu.
unidentified		Well, you know, it's interesting.
		There are a few closet questioners in the media, and behind the scenes they said, you know, they really would like to know what was going on.
		But what's interesting is they're just as much afraid to come out and just ask, you know, why aren't we looking into this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		I'm sure there are a lot of people looking at the election results late tonight and saying, hmm, maybe I shouldn't have snickered so hard.
		I wonder if I've made a mistake here.
unidentified		Yeah, well, it's been kind of interesting, and I want to thank you so much for getting this all out in the open and letting people know exactly what the case was here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Frances, maybe it's a good sign that people who stand up for what they believe still end up on the top of the heap every now and then.
		Maybe that's a good sign for our country.
		I wish you well, and congratulations.
unidentified		Thank you, Art, so very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, Frances.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Frances Emma Barwood victorious in the recall election, and I'm sure the ramifications of that one are going to be rattling around real hard in Phoenix Talk Radio tomorrow.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back to open lines in a moment.
unidentified		God, that's great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back to open lines in a second.
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		Have you ever thought much about that?
		Actually, my response is not really.
		You know, as long as I have enough money to be comfortable, I am happy.
		And if the money comes, you know, I'll put it somewhere.
		Working a nine-to-five regular old job is not going to get you rich.
		It'll let you live.
		It won't do much for you in retirement.
		But you'll get by.
unidentified		You'll get by.
		For now.
		But you'll get by.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I'm suggesting is that you begin to make some moves yourself to take care of your own situation.
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		I'm flooded with faxes from people who say they've made a lot of money.
		And in all this time, one complaint, one complaint, and that came from a guy who frankly admitted that he probably did something different when he switched over and began using money.
		You know, got nervous.
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		Sit down, read it, and decide for yourself.
		All right, in a moment, it's going to be back to open lines.
		Where's my GMX?
		Anyway, where's my GMX?
		Supposed to be running a GMX spot right now.
		Change spot, and it's gone.
		Gone, gone, gone.
		Well, I'll look for it in the meantime.
		I'll answer the phone.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		No, you're not.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		Is this the R. Bell show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Eternal Instruction.
unidentified		There.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I am in Flint, Michigan.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Flint.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Um, you brought up the subject earlier about the suitcase bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, a one-kiloton suitcase bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuke.
unidentified		The only possible use I could think that any moron would have for that, other than terrorism, is tearing it apart so they could make more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The only thing I could come up with was to start it going, you know, and then sort of play a personal game of chicken and see if you could press the cancel button, you know, like two or three seconds before it was going to go.
unidentified		I heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But with my luck, you know, the phone would ring or something, divert my attention.
		Goodbye, Parump.
		So what was that you were saying about morons now?
		Other uses?
unidentified		The only possible use I could think, other than terrorism, is to advance your terroristic aim, whether that may be by actually taking the thing apart to make more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
		To replicate it.
		Yes, I suppose there would be that.
		But I would think that would be a nervous thing, too.
		You know, cutting wires and disassembling a nuclear device.
unidentified		There's a lot of small countries who really don't have a nuclear program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you could, well, there's a profit motive.
		Now, you could turn around and resell it to some small country somewhere.
		Peru, for example, they'd probably like to have a nuke.
		Oh, Castro.
		Now think what Castro would pay for a nuke.
unidentified		Boy, those are wonderful thoughts, aren't they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trouble is, we all know who he'd use it against.
		I don't know.
		I'm trying to give it some thought.
		There's got to be a use.
		There's a hundred of them, it's reported out there.
		We'll take something.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		I found this, so we'll be right back.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jim in Las Vegas says, hey, Art, why not use a Bayless Clockwork Generator on the Cassini space probe?
		Well, Jim, the problem is the Bayless Clockwork Generator requires somebody to turn the crank.
		Now, I suppose you could send it out there and hope that as it wound down slowly, some six-fingered alien hand would come along and give it a good crank, but I wouldn't bet on that.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		How are you doing this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm on a highway near Toronto, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hold on a sec.
		See if I can get rid of some of the echo.
		I think I got rid of some of it anyway.
		Toronto, Canada, huh?
		What are you listening to?
unidentified		I'm listening to, I usually listen to WRVA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WR.
		Richmond.
		That'd be Richmond, Virginia.
unidentified		Richmond, Virginia, or sometimes 1100 in Cleveland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		But I live in London, Ontario.
		JVK, 1290.
		We just got you overnight.
		Thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are tromping across Canada like nobody's business.
unidentified		It's absolutely wonderful to hear you at night.
		So here's two ideas for a nuclear tape.
		Oh, okay.
		The first one is somebody actually take it apart and with a videotape, make it into a video and put it on the internet so that you can see part by part exactly how it's made.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We call that, actually my friend Bob Crane calls that a baghead video.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, where you take a paper bag and you cut out a little place for your eyes and your nose and your mouth.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you sit there and you dissemble this nuke on videotape so that it can be done by anybody at home.
		We call that the baghead video.
		There you go.
unidentified		Well there's one use.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Another use is, is it possible to actually convert it into a suitcase size nuclear power plant?
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		They are constructed to go bang.
		And I don't think that they're, you know, you're dealing with what would have to be fusion and we don't have that together yet.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's your mind's in the right place.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir.
unidentified		Thank you very much, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		Oh, that's right.
		Well, you know, we ought to celebrate Canada.
		We ought to celebrate Canada.
		Maybe I will open the lines just for Canada next hour.
		We're all over Canada now.
unidentified		All over Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I haven't even really celebrated that fact.
		So I'll do that.
		Next hour, we'll have a Canadian hour.
		Both on the east and west of the Rockies line and the international line.
		I'll close it off and we'll have Canada only, eh?
		But see, now we're into...
		They're kind of in the west.
		And we're on the air now from, actually, let me tell you, from Nova Scotia to Montreal to London, and it just marches right across Canada.
		We're on the air all over the place up there now.
		That man's first idea was pretty good.
		A baghead nuclear video.
		East of the Rock.
		Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
		Okay, we're going to have to start all over again.
		One of the only rules that we've got on the show, Ed, is that we're not allowed to use last names.
		So let's try it again.
		You're Ed, and you're in Youngstown?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
unidentified		Well, thank you.
		I've really had a hard time getting it on.
		It's almost a miracle.
		Anyway, first of all, I'd like to give my blessings and my prayers out to Daniel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it looks like it's working.
unidentified		Great.
		I'm glad to hear it.
		Anyway, when you had Merle Haggard on, it was my understanding that you're all supposed to teach about the Urancha book, the Book of Truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Supposed to teach about it?
unidentified		Yeah, well, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody asked him if he had read it, and he said yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's been reading it for years.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Well, anyway, you know, Strange Universe, tomorrow, is having a segment on the Urancha book, Book of Truth.
		And I'd just like the audience to know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you remember, sir, if you remember Merle Haggard's answer to the caller who called, he said that he is fascinated by it, has been reading it for years, but thinks there might be some demonic influence in it.
unidentified		Well, you know, I get a lot of that, but you really have to read it, and you have to let, you know, spiritual discernment, you know, first logic mind and spiral logic mind weigh and see if you have balance or if it comes up wanting.
		But, you know, hardly anyone practices spiritual discernment.
		They talk about being true truth seekers and, you know, sincere and all, but they really aren't, especially when they're faced with it.
		And that's one of the problems when it comes to, well, fundamentalist Christian societies and everything else.
		Then you have the atheist side.
		But, you know, the Orange book, Book of Truth, is the book spoken of in many of the prophecies in most of the religions of the world, including Christian, Hopi, Islam, Judaism, Chinese, and many others.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll watch the segment on Strange Universe tomorrow night and see what I think, all right?
unidentified		Can I say a little bit more about it, maybe?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
unidentified		Well, that the Book of Truth is written by spirit representatives of the Universal Father with his mandate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it channeled?
unidentified		No, it's including, you know, Jesus Christ with His blessing, the Sevenfold Godhead.
		But now, how it was produced, there was a human being involved.
		Sort of like the guest you had on the other night.
		I think it was last night, or the night before that.
		They talked about, you know, writing a book about the angels, kind of prodded him to do so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but he had...
		Yeah, he had...
		Okay, I know you're talking about Nick.
		I don't know.
		I'll watch the segment and see what I think tomorrow night.
		Strange Universe is going to do something on the Urania book.
		It has been around for as long as I have and probably longer, long time.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
		This is Joey up in Rio.
		Yes, sir.
		And two questions for her.
		First one, kind of stupid.
		How the heck do you know Ross Mitchell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, turn your radio off before I answer.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		This is a regulation on this program.
		You must turn your radio off.
unidentified		It is off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do I know Ross Mitchell is the question?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
unidentified		Ross, I...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And in that regard, of course, we talked to them.
		I mean, when you only have one affiliate, they're the only ones you've got to talk to, right?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we heard Ross had this voice that approximated that of God.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we thought, I'm sick of giving out the numbers, so why not have somebody with a voice like that give them out?
		And that's how it came to be.
		And so KOH was just about the first affiliate we ever had.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		That's my stupid question.
		Now here's my real question.
		Okay.
		A few months back when the Russian space probe to Mars crashed back into Earth from orbit, it hit the west coast of South America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		The last thing I heard was that somebody sent some people in there to look for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're damn right they did.
unidentified		Have they found anything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The reason you haven't heard anything is because you never will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They had high-level radiation power for that thing.
unidentified		Right, plutonium.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Plutonium, yeah, plutonium.
unidentified		RTGs, I suppose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And my guess would be you're never going to hear a word about it.
		But when something green with gigantic teeth comes crawling up across the Texas border, that'll be where it came from.
unidentified		Hokie-dokey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		That's the best I can do.
		No, there haven't been a word, not a word in the news about that.
		You bet they sent a team down there.
		In fact, the U.S. offered cooperation, then the whole thing went silent.
		And you and I can both guess why, can't we?
		Right here at the bottom of the hour, I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		I had to stand on a pair of what I am.
		It's all clear to me now.
		My heart is on fire.
		You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight's an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what it is, and I've got a really hot, no pun intended, you'll understand, tip for you here in a moment from a highly reliable source, which must for this moment remain anonymous.
		Oh, you're going to love this one.
		Listen, reasons that go to my website right now.
		Well, let me count them.
		A million.
		My website is more like a web within a web.
		It's so big.
		We've got a studio cam going right now, three studio cams circulating.
		So you can actually go to my website and sit there and about every 45 seconds or so, it updates with a new photograph of me doing the program.
		It's a frightening thing to have in the studio with you, but it's a lot of fun.
		You see that on the web.
		You can go to the rogue market from the web and buy Art Bell stock before it splits.
		Remembering that earlier call today.
		I actually called that broker back to help the guy out.
		This lady wanted to buy Art Bell stock, and she was demanding that he find and immediately buy it before it split.
		Lots of photographs up there.
		The recent trip to Alaska.
		We got to play with, and I say play with because that's what we did, a Black Hawk helicopter.
		How frequently do you ever get to do that?
		Boy, was that fun.
		You'll see the photographs of that up there.
		And some of the most beautiful Alaskan scenery you've ever seen in your whole life.
		of most of those photographs.
unidentified		The End Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Art Bell All right, here it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have from a very reliable source word moments ago that the American Chemical Society that is meeting now in Las Vegas is later today going to make an
		allegation that during the years that we did supposed objectives, safe underground testing here in Nevada, there were a number of unannounced leaks.
		My source further indicates that the Department of Energy is going to follow up by admitting that yes, it is true.
		This is going to rock a lot of boats if it's true, so all I can say to you is, if you hear about this later today, remember you heard it here first.
		Let me repeat at the American Chemical Society meeting in Las Vegas, it is said by a very good source that I have, will say that there were leaks during the underground testing period, and the Department of Energy will admit it is true.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I, of course, have been here very nearby during the entire time they've been doing that.
		I remember very clearly and very well years ago working in Las Vegas when, you know, we would issue, when I was working in Las Vegas, we would issue on a daily basis, not daily, but any day they were going to do a test,
		warnings, that people on high-rise buildings or working in precarious locations should get inside during the period of the test because buildings would rock back and forth when these things would go off.
		And now they're going to announce that, in effect, they lied and there were leaks.
		The only thing I don't have from my source is how extensive the leaks were.
		I always used to wonder about this because they would postpone tests when the wind was going toward Las Vegas.
		I wonder how many of you here in Nevada remember that.
		And I always used to wonder out loud on the air, if these things are safe and there's not a problem, then why do they postpone a test when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction?
		So I must say I'm not surprised, but I am saddened if it comes to pass.
		Now, this is not the Holy Grail.
		This is from a very reliable source of mine.
		So if it comes to pass that you hear this announcement tomorrow, just remember you heard it here first.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Lord, how are you?
		Okay.
		Yeah, you're here to get a hold of.
		Do you believe in coincidences?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there are coincidences.
unidentified		Yeah, Lady mentioned that Diana mentioned Peraf Nevada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I sent you a fact from Diana on September 6th, 1997 at 12.38 p.m.
		It was entitled to Walter.
		Did you get that?
		The spelling and the layout was bad.
		So don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what did the facts say?
unidentified		Don't judge it by that.
		It was a message from Diane from the other side.
		Oh, I did get that, yes.
		She had trusted me to give it to somebody.
		She didn't say Art Bell, but she knew that I knew you and that it would get there.
		And if you think that's not a coincidence, there's something.
		Because I heard the lady on the last hour mention Diana mentioned the Parampa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I remember your facts.
unidentified		Yeah, I wish you would convey it to the people for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		It sure would be nice.
		And that's her wish, okay?
		Well.
		It's all in her words and none of my words.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it just came to you.
unidentified		It's exactly what she told me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, did you see Diana or did you just hear her in your head?
unidentified		I heard her through the spirit.
		And I didn't watch when I was writing it.
		I just wrote it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Automatic writing.
unidentified		Yeah, that's the reason it's on a slant and it doesn't look good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, if you convey it to the people, she wanted that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I don't know.
		I don't know.
		How do I know that that's really from Diana?
		I'm sorry.
		I have a real problem with these kinds of things because how do I know it's really from Diana?
		i i read it Kind of like the Houdini thing he said he'd do back, remember, and he gave code so that they would know if it was really him.
		As far as I know, nobody's cracked that code yet.
		And so a message from Diana without a code.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Who's this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who are you calling?
unidentified		I'm trying to call the Eric Bell show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there you go.
unidentified		Well, this is great to be talking with you.
		I just want to say that I'm a first-time caller calling from Canada.
		I was actually going to wait for your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you in Canada?
unidentified		In Vancouver, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, unfortunately, we're going to be unable to talk to you until next hour.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding.
unidentified		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Well, I just want to say that you've got a fascinating program.
		I always, if I'm up late, I usually have my radio on while I'm getting to bed listening to your program.
		And you have some very fascinating subjects on there.
		And I just want to say that hopefully you'll rebroadcast some of the shows that you had in regards of the time travel stuff.
		I keep dozing off in the middle of those, and I'd sure like to stay awake for some of them next time around.
		But I think those are really fascinating to me, and I always enjoy those ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I will do more of those.
		I love, hey, time travel is probably my favorite subject.
unidentified		Yeah, it is.
		It's mine as well.
		I always get glued to either the TV set when something comes on like that or even listening to your program about it.
		I think it's a shame I have to fall asleep at 3 o'clock in the morning to that, you see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you very much.
		We'll do more on time travel.
unidentified		That's great.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody ever has to ask me too hard about that.
		Hey, here we go.
		From Steve in Santa Barbara, 10, the top 10 constructive uses for a backpack nuke.
		Actually, suitcase nuke.
		10.
		Really deep sea fishing.
		9.
		Hide and go nuke.
		Count to 1 million.
		8.
		Rabbit control for Nye County.
		7.
		Swimming pool construction.
unidentified		6.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ice Cube exporting from Alaska.
		Blow it out of there.
		5.
		One word.
		Timber.
		4.
		The Cavorkian Travel Bag.
		3.
		Opening Child-Proof Medicine Bottles.
		2.
		Extreme Crop Circles.
		And 1.
		U.S. Pro Surfing Championship live from Utah.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
		Now stop listening to that.
		Turn that off.
		It's your turn.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, I love your show for one thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do too.
unidentified		And I've been trying to get a hold of you forever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a long time.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		And wanted to tell you that I wanted to hear about that story about the alien, your alien story that you had to tell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean my encounter?
unidentified		Yeah, your encounter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how long have you been listening to this program?
unidentified		How long?
		Yep.
		Um I just started actually about two months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Okay.
		I'll tell it.
unidentified		Um all right, I'll tell it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is the last time for a while.
unidentified		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is now four years ago.
		At that time, I was over four years really.
		I was commuting between here in Thurump, Nevada, and Las Vegas.
		There is between us a mountain, about 5,000 some odd foot mountain, big mountain.
		It is a one-way, 65-mile trip between here and Las Vegas.
		So I commuted this every day to do the radio show that I did in Las Vegas.
		A lot of commuting.
		Well, one night coming home after a program, a Sunday night program, it was, I don't know, about 11.20, I guess, at night.
		And we were, and I say we, because my wife was with me in the car.
		We have little cars, GeoMetros.
		I like my Geos.
		And we were in my Geo, and she was in the passenger seat, and I was driving.
		And I guess we were probably not more than a mile, probably less than a mile from home.
		And we were traveling on a road from the east going west.
		My wife said, what the hell is that?
		She had somehow caught a reflection or a light or something and turned around and she saw this craft, this thing, coming up from behind us.
		And she was very excited.
		I said, I don't know.
		And I pulled the car over to the side of the road.
		you know it's a very country confide atmosphere out here we're in a very They have a million people, and we have 23,000 people spread out.
		So it's a very country atmosphere out here.
		And it's very quiet.
		I mean, you can hear a cricket at a quarter mile, a half mile, you can hear a cricket.
		Very quiet, dead quiet.
		So quiet that if you go out there and there's no cricket, you hear the humming in your own ears.
		I mean, dead silence.
		That's how quiet it is.
		It was almost a full moon, a very bright, you know, the air here is very clear, so it was very bright, stars out everywhere.
		And I stopped the car.
		We both got out and stood on the street because there was no traffic.
		And here coming from behind us was this large triangle, which I would estimate to be about 150 feet from one point of the triangle to the other.
		And it was extremely low, not more than 150 feet above our heads, maybe even only 100, low, very low.
		And it was coming roughly from the west-southwest to the east.
		It would let me get my direction straight.
		It would be the east, south, east, and moving to the west-northwest.
		And it moved directly over our heads.
		Directly over our heads.
		Now, it was black in color.
		There was enough moon that you could see the substance of the craft.
		It wasn't just lights.
		There were two lights on the back of the triangle and one on the front strobing.
		It slowly, and I'm going to guess this object was moving no more than 30 miles an hour.
		I mean slow.
		Big, gigantic, the kind of thing where the stars and the moon, the moon and the stars just went away when it came over our head, like in the movie.
		No beams of light came down.
		It floated.
		It did not fly.
		Aerodynamic flight takes aerodynamic occurrences.
		In other words, you've got to have lift.
		Be going fast enough to achieve lift, aerodynamic lift.
		This was, this object was, define gravity.
		And it just floated right over our heads and continued.
		We stood there and watched it float out across the valley toward the west-northwest for a good, oh, I don't know, five minutes, maybe longer, until we could no longer see it.
		And we came home sort of silently saying, oh my God, what did we see?
		So that's what it was.
		There was no sound.
		I could still hear the cricket, you know, as this thing was passing over.
		So you tell me what I saw.
		I don't know.
		That's the experience.
		I debated heavily whether I would say anything about it on the air.
		I finally decided I would.
		And I dragged my poor wife in to vouch for my story because I wasn't about to tell it alone.
		I saw one of two things.
	I saw military technology that is so far advanced that its revelation would be a gigantic story.
	Or I saw an alien craft.
	Either way, it's a big story.
	And trust me when I tell you that once you have seen something like this, it will change your life.
	And if it doesn't, then like the earlier caller said, you're a moron.
unidentified		I mean, once you've seen this, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what it is, but you know that it's one or the other, and both are gigantic stories.
		So there you are.
		Now, about a week later, two weeks, there was a story in our local paper.
		Lo and behold, we were not the only ones who had seen it.
		Lots and lots of people here in the Purum Valley had seen this object.
		And the newspaper made an inquiry of Nellis Air Force Base, and they commented.
		They came back, Nellison said, yes.
		On the evening in question, there had been a secret mission that their words may have overflown the Prompt Valley.
		They said it was a C-130 aircraft.
		What an insult.
		I was in the Air Force.
		I flew in C-130s.
		A C-130 does not look like a triangle.
		A C-130 does not sound like a soundless triangle.
		A C-130 would have rattled my teeth at 100 or 150 feet above my head.
		That was an insult to the intelligence of anybody who had seen that object.
		Nevertheless, that is the story, the official story.
		Every bit as good as Swamp Guest C-130.
unidentified		Ridiculous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
unidentified		You're listening to Arc Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		He was willing to make a deal when he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
		And the devil jumped up on a hipster thumb and said, boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul because I think I'm better than you.
		The boy said, my name's Johnny, and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet and you're going to regret, and I'm the best it's ever been.
		Down here on the nubger bow and play your fiddle hard, cause hell broke loose and...
		I'm missing only for the machine, but I'm getting paid for the needed of me.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Five, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going to do something a little different this hour.
		We're going to do, and really this occurred about a week ago, I think.
		We're on the air all across Canada.
		I mean, really all across Canada, from Nova Scotia, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, a bunch of other ones.
		So I'm going to have a Canadian hour.
		Now, what does that mean?
		That means that those of you using both the, in fact, all three lines, east of the Rockies, west of the Rockies, and the International Line, all of you have got to hang up unless you're in Canada.
		This is going to be a complete Canadian hour.
		Are you listening to me out there?
		Canadians only.
		No matter where in Canada you are.
		It doesn't matter.
		Canada only.
		Everybody else out there has got to cooperate.
		Hang up the phone.
		Canada only.
		It's open lines.
		We're talking about all kinds of stuff.
		For example, what would you do if you had a, what would you do other than some sort of terrorist thing with a suitcase nuke?
		Here's somebody else with the 10 best reasons to own your own one kiloton nuclear weapon.
		One, to create your own private swimming pool larger than the Joneses.
		Two, a poor country's way of creating their own Grand Canyon for a tourist attraction.
		Three, rocket propulsion system for those anxious to see if Richard's Glass City on the Moon is for real.
		You'd need a cannon.
		Four, the quickest way for an individual to visit another dimension.
		That might be true.
		Heating oil.
		Let's see.
unidentified		I can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand this one.
		Heating oil got too expensive due to Art Bell's constant advertising spots.
		Oh, I see.
		Due to budget cutbacks, the U.S. military needed a cheaper supplier.
		A new way to test how deep Mel's hole really is.
		Third world country's way of eradicating locusts.
		Paula Jones really wants to stick it to her lawyers.
		For those who truly want to know if those bomb shelters from the 50s really worked, that's from Daniel in Santa Cruz.
		I do have a big piece of news for you.
		It is not confirmed.
		This comes from an underground source.
		Okay?
		We'll leave it at that for now.
		And it may not come to pass.
		But this source has been very reliable in the past.
		So if it's true, It's sad, it's worrisome because I live here.
		I understand the American Chemical Society is meeting now in Las Vegas.
		My source says that later today they are going to say that the U.S. leaked significant amounts of radiation during the underground testing period.
		And I lived here during that.
		Thank you very much.
		Again, leaked nuclear radiation during the underground testing.
		My source further indicates the Department of Energy is going to admit that it is true.
		All of this may or may not come to pass, but if it does, remember you heard it here first.
		I hope it does not come true, because I have been here during those years.
		And as I told the earlier audience, I used to work in Las Vegas, and we would issue warnings all the time.
		On the day they would do a test, we would say people in high-rise buildings, in precarious positions, get out of them because things are going to rock and roll at 8 o'clock this morning.
		And kaboom, she'd go and the buildings would shake in Las Vegas.
		And now, and of course they always talked about how very safe it was.
		The one thing that always bugged me about their announcements were that frequently they would say, today's test has been called off because the wind is going in the wrong direction.
		Now, I always wondered why they were worried about the wind if it was safe.
		Now, I guess you could contend, well, it was just an extra precaution, just in case it was leaked, but they never told us there were any leaks.
		So I always presumed that their worry about the wind was with good cause, and now it seems like it is so.
		We'll see if this announcement is indeed made later today, and if it is, then my source is good.
		But the announcement is horrible.
		I'm really hard.
unidentified		Sorry to hear that Gunshot You never know what you'll hear on Coast to Coast AM with George Norrie.
		You know, there is terrorism out there, so in an effort to try to fight it or combat it, we give up these rights.
		I'm convinced that there are groups out there, sinister, powerful groups, that would create this terror to continue to control us.
		I think you're absolutely correct.
		But of course, anybody that's followed the process of government throughout history, once a government has been given a certain amount of power, it always speaks more.
		And to suggest that our government is different because it's America, I guess that just shows how historically ignorant the American people have become.
		Because in a real sense, these things are our fault.
		Americans are, in fact, now trading liberty for security.
		Every day, this is going to happen now in our future, that we're going to allow this.
		It's just a matter of time.
		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One more time, very quickly.
		God bless all of you who have prayed for Daniel.
		Daniel called me late today and said it looks like there'll be no surgery.
		The bleeding in all the three aneurysms has stopped.
		There is every chance he believes, and his doctors believe, the aneurysms, the clotting rather, as a result of the aneurysms will dissolve or may yet pass and create strokes, but they feel it might be controllable, so they're not going to do surgery.
		In other words, folks, it looks like Daniel's going to make it, and he wanted to thank all of you.
		He may even come on the air in the next day or two from his hospital bed.
		He may even be out of the hospital if all goes well within a week.
		So don't say there's nothing to the power of prayer, because there is.
		Now, I'm not sure, again, the source of this power, because doctors will tell you that 70 to 90% of the time, you know, taking a placebo will cause a condition to remedy.
unidentified		But it worked, you know.
unidentified		It worked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Fred in McKeesport, Pennsylvania.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fred, we're holding this open for Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		I'll wait until you reopen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		We'll do that next hour.
		We're holding the east and west of the Rockies line for Canada.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I really enjoy your show calling from Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vancouver Beach.
unidentified		My name's Bob.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to maybe let you know about something that was in our news about almost a year ago.
		Okay.
		A story about the golden spruce, that a tree that was growing up in the Queen Charlotte Islands, which I think you're probably familiar with.
		You probably went up there by them on your cruise to Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet I did, yes.
unidentified		A big archipelago we have.
		Anyway, this golden spruce was a giant Sitka spruce with golden needles that was caused by a genetic flaw, and it's quite rare.
		And this tree played quite an important part in the Haida mythology.
		It's said that after a blizzard wiped out one of the Haida villages, that's one of the Indian nations, a grandfather and a boy and a boy fled the village.
		they were the only two survivors.
		And the boy looked back to take one last view at the village, and he turned into this tree, the golden spruce.
		And the myth is that he would be remembered by the last generation of people on earth.
		Well, anyway, getting back to the modern day, this tree was cut down about a year ago by a chainsaw-wielding nut, who actually really had to go through a lot of effort.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you folks in Canada have your own problems.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, more than enough.
unidentified		Anyway, this tree was cut down by this guy who left sort of a Unabomber-type note, and he even identified himself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's a great, great pro-environmental thing to do, kind of a tree.
unidentified		Yeah, anyway, he was charged with it.
unidentified		And he said he was going to paddle his kayak to his court appointment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To his court appointment?
unidentified		Yes, on the mainland.
unidentified		I guess it's about 100 kilometers, 60 miles paddling, which is pretty skookum paddle in a kayak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what happened to him?
unidentified		Anyway, he was last seen in February, and in June they found a shattered kayak and some camping equipment with his name on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And he's presumed dead.
		Yeah.
		So there's kind of an odd justice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If he's really dead, but, you know, he might well have just sort of taken off and be a feral human being now.
		Thank you very much for the cause.
		A hard little story.
		Hard little story.
		What a great environmental statement to a cut down a precious tree.
unidentified		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air, top of the morning.
unidentified		Good morning to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to talk up a little louder into your phone.
unidentified		i'm in the phone right now but i had a couple things i wanted to talk to you about all right um one of them is that i met a lady the other day who was talking about cancer and she said that um well she felt that someone had given her parents cancer and that several other people were acquiring cancer under the same circumstances, something to do with the HAARP project.
unidentified		But it's all second-hand information and I haven't been able to find anything to specify.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that HARP has cranked up enough power to be affecting biological.
unidentified		She was saying that her brother was involved with HAARP and that it didn't even really amount to an energy source.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was more like it had something to do with the biological warfare and the Well, again, I don't buy it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think HARP is a worry when they crank up to 100 billion watts in that area.
unidentified		Yeah, I really think that if they were to make enough power that would totally be more than the power inside the crust of the earth, like the lava and all that, then there'd be a big eruption.
unidentified		That's what I feel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I appreciate the call.
unidentified		I wanted to tell you something about Turmeric.
		It's a really wonderful route that a lot of people in India use in their food.
		It's got a dark orange, yellow color.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What does it do for you?
unidentified		Well, it's an antioxidant, it's an anti-cancer agent, and it also helps limit the reproduction of HIV-1 in your system.
		It does all kinds of things for you.
		And you can look this up in EarthBooks if you get a chance to go to your local health food store.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Something for cancer and HIV.
		Well, that makes sense.
		I mean, anything that would boost your immune system, whether it was cancer, HIV, or anything else, anything that would boost your immune system would obviously assist you in fighting either one of those.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Sandra from Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sandra from Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you on a portable phone, Sandra?
unidentified		Um, no, yes.
unidentified		Am I too far away from it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It just, I can tell when you're on a portable.
unidentified		Okay, I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all right.
unidentified		Um, I was wondering about something.
unidentified		Um, last night on my way into work, it was about 8.15, and I was heading down I-5 north.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And as I passed through Everett, I noticed some extremely bright, bright lights that were rather low to the ground.
		And I watched them for quite a while, and they went from the west side of the freeway to the east side of the freeway when I blinked.
		And I could see them going farther down away from me then.
		And I was kind of wondering, did anyone else see this last night?
		Or is it just, was it just me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did anybody watch?
unidentified		Did anyone else in the area?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See the lights?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now we'll find out.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I didn't see him.
		I was here.
unidentified		Oh, well, I'm sorry.
unidentified		I also wanted to know, I remember last year you had a gentleman on that was from Washington that dealt with unexplained lights.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Could I get some information on how to get a hold of him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about Peter Davenport, and it's the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's in the phone book.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Look it up.
		Thank you.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		I'm fine.
unidentified		I'm phoning from Montreal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Montreal, Canada.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, glad to have you.
unidentified		It's so nice to have somebody intelligent from the United States to be on the air.
unidentified		We've had Mr. Stern there lately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard Howard made his debut in Canada, and there's this big thing going around on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something about Howard insulted Canadians on the first day he was on.
unidentified		Yeah, real racists.
unidentified		He call us scumbags and traitors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's the way to really ingratiate yourself to your new affiliate and all your listeners.
unidentified		That's great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations, Howard.
unidentified		I've heard your latest statement about your encounter with a UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And I have a twin brother.
		And in 1958, we did have an encounter, a very close one.
		And we forgot about it about two years.
		And it was exactly like the Wiener Brothers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Wiener Brothers?
unidentified		Yes, the one that went for a fishing expedition in the Rockies.
		And it was really weird.
		We saw a saucer that was about the size of a football field.
		We were about eight to ten people.
		And I've never met these people afterwards.
		And my twin brother and I never spoke about it for about two, three years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as I said, I mean, once you've seen something like this, you're never going to be the same.
unidentified		No, and I've been searching for the last 40 years about all the information I could get on it.
		It never happened again.
		You know, I was suspecting maybe mental disorder or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
unidentified		It's so unbelievable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no mental disorder.
		They're really there.
		What they are, that's another question, but they really are there.
		No mental disorders.
		Well, listen, I really appreciate your call from Montreal, and we're real happy to be on the air in Montreal, by the way.
unidentified		We're really happy to have you here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
unidentified		Have a nice night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		You cannot see something like that without it changing your life.
		Forevermore, you will be unsure of what you saw.
		You will be wondering what you saw.
		It will either be.
		Well, there's only one.
		I keep saying this because.
		And I'm really wrong.
		There are other possibilities.
		You either saw something military we have that is so far beyond what we admit that it's a gigantic story.
		Or you saw an E. Graph.
		Or you saw something in the paranormal range.
		Any of those I would think are possible and no doubt things I have not thought of.
		You're on the air, Coast Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Halifax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg pardon?
unidentified		Are you calling from Halifax?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Halifax.
unidentified		Halifax.
unidentified		Halifax, Nova Scotia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know you are my first caller from Nova Scotia?
unidentified		Nova Salifa from Nova Scotia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, wait a minute now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't hear you too well.
unidentified		You can't hear me too well.
unidentified		My name is Mr. Larry Brown from Halifax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, but I just can't hear you real well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like your phone is muffled, a little bit muffled.
unidentified		A little bit muffled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's a little better if you talk into it.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better, better, better.
unidentified		Better?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's life in Nova Scotia?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And the topic in Northern Nova Scotia and the maritime province, like Carl, I'm like Montreal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I like just like I listen to politics and all that and everything else, but the maritime province and everything else, but the government and everything else.
		But I don't interest like Montreal.
		Quebec is separating from Canada, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It may.
unidentified		Because I was very, I looked at like I'm separate.
		Mario's vote, eh?
		Well, how would you vote?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you were in Montreal, how would you vote?
unidentified		Within Montreal?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Where do you want to go?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you separate?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would?
unidentified		Like, I'm a Newfoundlander.
unidentified		I was born in Newfoundland, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That's right, that's my hometown, and I got nowhere to live, and Newfoundlanders is just.
		I think Quebec to go on their own, which has Newfoundland Julie Smallwood in politics give away Newfoundland Audrey.
		Wouldn't that kind of separate you in a way if Montreal separate from Canada, like Quebec going their own, and the four-marital province going their own, and Canada going their own whatever way they want to go?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, in other words, quesyrosyra.
		Well, that's my first call from Nova Scotia.
		I had a hard time understanding him.
		But then again, I have a hard time understanding a lot of people from Mississippi, too.
		From the high desert, this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		This is for the next 25 minutes, All Canada.
		All Canada.
		On all lines.
		Only Canada.
		I'm celebrating the fact that we're on coast to coast in Canada.
		Glad to have you guys on board.
		Anyway, we'll get back to business here in a moment.
unidentified		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Art Bell, Somewhere in Time All right, back to it we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air coast to coast Am with our bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where, pray tell, are you calling from?
unidentified		I'm calling from the Gordon Golden Horseshoe area, which is in southern Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Southern Ontario?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, excellent.
unidentified		Well, near Toronto.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any idea why I could not...
unidentified		About this time of night, yes.
unidentified		I would think you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think what I got from it was that he wanted his area to split off, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not sure.
unidentified		I think everybody lives on their own island in Canada.
		It's what you call a mosaic.
		Now, you know what a mosaic is, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		When you look, it's a bunch of little colors, and there's all these pockets of people, whether they're in Nova Scotia or out west.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So he was a pocket person.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I've been listening to your, and there's lots of news about this UFO stuff.
		I personally don't believe it myself.
		I don't believe it whatsoever.
		We've got enough problems on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So even if you were to see one, you wouldn't believe it?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I think that what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I reject what I see.
unidentified		Yes.
		What you call it, doubting Thomas.
		I guess what flew over was probably a prank by some engineer students or something, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty good prank, I'd say.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I haven't seen it.
		I don't have, like, I live in an area where there's more communications going on.
		I can get Howard Stearns, I can get Bill Carroll, I can get Sterling Fox in Vancouver.
		There's more radio and television waves going through the air in this region than anywhere else in the world now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Both Canada and American, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, and all I need is an AM radio.
		I don't, and in television stations, I haven't seen Site 51.
		I haven't seen your UFO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you have a computer?
unidentified		Well, I have access to one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have access to one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what you do.
unidentified		You go to the library.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You go, all right, well, that's fine.
		You go up to my website and you take a look at the area of Area 50, the picture of Area 51 that you say doesn't exist.
		We've got a real nice photograph of it.
unidentified		Well, I didn't say the Area 51 didn't exist.
		I said that I didn't believe about the UFO.
		I know there's a lot of wide open spaces.
		My aunt lives in Phoenix, I marry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think they do up there?
unidentified		In Say 51?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
unidentified		I have no idea.
		Americans are a very militarized country.
		They could be working on any manner of chaos or good works.
		I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good work.
		Secret.
		What about you Canadians?
		Do you have an area like that up there somewhere?
unidentified		We have plenty of open space.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		That isn't what I asked.
		I said, do you have an area like Area 51?
unidentified		An area like Area 51.
		Well, not too far down the road here, we've got what was called the Manhattan Project area.
		And there was traces of radioactivity around here from that, from the 1940s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a long time ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean something current where they do secret stuff.
unidentified		Oh, secret stuff.
		That has to do with UFOs or, well, now you're looking for a nuclear bomb.
		Like, nothing's out of the realm of trouble like that.
		I can't dismiss it, so I would say that exists.
		But I don't believe in outer space aliens.
		It's a gimmick for selling television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really think so, huh?
unidentified		Yes, I believe that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well everybody's entitled to their belief um...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		but when you Did you see the movie Contact?
unidentified		Nope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't?
unidentified		No, I didn't see Contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, it doesn't matter.
		You've got real good air there, don't you?
		In Canada, it's nice and it's cold, and you've got good air, right?
unidentified		Well, yeah, up north.
		The southern parts are more industrial.
		There's sometimes some...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zillions and zillions of stars.
		Those are all suns.
		Majority of them probably have planets going around them.
		Well, and one of the lines, let me finish.
		One of the lines that they used in contact, I thought was quite profound.
		They said, if you look up there and you contemplate all of that, if there aren't others, it sure is a big waste to space.
unidentified		Well, that's not our responsibility living on here, Earth.
unidentified		Is it our responsibility?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I appreciate that.
		That's like saying, though, that man is not, if man had been meant to fly, why, the good Lord would have put wings on our back.
		That's kind of the way I look at it.
		You know, it's like saying that.
		If we've been meant to fly, we'd have wings.
		West of the Rockies in Canada, presumably you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, how's it going, Archie?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going just fine.
unidentified		Where are you?
unidentified		Burnaby, right on the border of Burnaby and New Westminster in British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
unidentified		Yeah, just I guess that guy back east is up a little bit past his bedtime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it was the first call I've ever had from Nova Scotia.
unidentified		They mostly talk like that back then.
unidentified		They've got an interesting Celtic sort of tongue back there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of neat then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want another call from Nova Scotia to see if they're all the same.
unidentified		Well, they're not all the same.
unidentified		It's particular regions like Cape Breton and parts of Newfoundland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was I getting it right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was he sort of suggesting that Quebec go ahead and split off and he wanted to split off too?
unidentified		I had no idea what he was saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You didn't get it, huh?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		I just wanted to tell you about the, actually to tell you about your last call that they were talking about, you asked if there was any sort of sites in around Canada or whatever, but we have one just off the coast of Vancouver Island called the Nanus Bay Testing Site, which right now they're in some sort of kerfuffle about the BC government wants to shut it down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's it called?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me what it's called again.
unidentified		It's called the Nanous Bay Testing Site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what, Pretel, do they do there?
unidentified		They do underwater, supposedly they do underwater torpedo testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Underwater torpedo testing.
unidentified		They've got a bunch of the bottom of the ocean in that area is like really soft, silty sand.
unidentified		And what they've got is a bunch of beacons placed all over the bottom, and they track all the ships that go above the subscription.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like our PsOSIS stuff that the U.S. has for listening to subs.
unidentified		Yeah, something to do with that, anyways.
		And now they want to, the BC government wants to shut it down over this fish war that they're having between Canada and the U.S. So I don't know what's going to happen there.
		But what I did call about was to ask you if you could investigate about the correlation between the U.S. government making grants on the film industry.
		You know, Vancouver is typically called Hollywood North.
		And I've heard through the grapevine that the American government...
		Is that what you're saying?
		No, what I've heard is that the Americans, the American governments, or parts or portions, I don't know whether it's the FBI or the CIA or whatever, some institute down in the state makes grants of money and they're able to use the newest high-tech military equipment in their movie as long as they apply for these grants and that the movie is somehow aimed towards getting the message out
		that, yes, an alien contact is here and supposedly one of my friends saw some.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the U.S. government subsidized contact, huh?
unidentified		Perhaps.
		That's the thing.
		They're trying to desensitize the...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's all just hype to sell commercials or something.
unidentified		The last caller?
		Yeah.
		That was talking about the fact that he doesn't think that there's any light beyond it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		I think maybe the place where he lives, there's too much light and he doesn't ever get to see any stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
		Yeah, I kind of feel the same way.
		He needs to go north.
		I think I suggested it to him and said it scares him to look up in the sky like that, so he probably doesn't look up.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, I'm calling from Halifax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Halifax, Nova Scotia?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound pretty good.
unidentified		Well, why shouldn't I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, did you hear the other caller from Nova Scotia?
unidentified		Yeah, he's a Newfoundlander.
unidentified		He has a different accent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just couldn't grasp his accent.
		Maybe you can help me out.
		What was he saying to me?
unidentified		What was he saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		He was saying that he wanted to separate from Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was right then.
unidentified		Yeah?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He was talking about Quebec, Quebec's separating, and I thought I heard him saying that he wanted to separate, too.
unidentified		Well, I can understand that where Churchill Falls is in Labrador, northern Newfoundland.
		Labrador is part of Newfoundland, although the people in Quebec believe it's part of Quebec.
		And they've been selling their power to the states at a big profit.
		Joey Smallwood gave up electricity to Quebec for next to nothing for 99 years.
		So he probably is pretty pissed off about that and doesn't want to.
		Oh, totally.
		Totally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's going to happen?
		Look, I've always wanted to ask this.
		What will happen to Canada if Quebec and maybe Nova Scotia and other provinces separate?
		Isn't that going to mean the end of Canada as we know it?
unidentified		Well, I think the East Coast of Canada should separate from the rest of the country because we've always been giving the bum deal.
		We're the oldest part of Canada, and the rest of the government's just been more or less sucking us dry.
		So I figure if we separate, maybe it will be the end of Canada as we know it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but don't you worry that, I mean, I mean, how different is any government?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Our government sucks us dry down here, too, not perhaps to the degree that you're sucked dry, but then you'll have your own little area and you'll be sucking yourselves dry.
unidentified		Well, I think we'll prosper because we'll be able to export our goods to the rest of Canada, the rest of the world.
unidentified		We'll be a little more competitive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they'll be so ticked off at you, they won't buy.
unidentified		Well, that's fine.
unidentified		We can keep our resources and use when they're found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then, I suppose, trade with the U.S. and Europe and Asia.
unidentified		Well, sure.
		I mean, we're trading now only.
		We're not getting any of it.
		Well, they're not getting it, that's all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		has also been the proposition forwarded that if the East does split, that the West, several provinces in the West, may join the U.S. Yes, that's possible, and the East Coast may join with the U.S., which may or may not be a good thing, but I don't believe Canada is...
unidentified		Well, I mean, we don't have much for health care now.
		I mean, we do have health care.
		Mind you, it's probably a little better than what we have in the States, but the money we're paying out in taxes more than covers what our health care costs are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's socialism.
unidentified		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		It definitely isn't democracy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you do in Nova Scotia?
unidentified		What do I do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I stay up all night and listen to crazy talk shows like mine, huh?
unidentified		No, I do work.
unidentified		I'm self-employed, and I work at nighttime, so that's something to listen to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's how I get most of my listeners, that and insomnia.
unidentified		Insomnia.
		That's right.
		Here on the East Coast, we have quite a few strange places.
		We're not sure if they've been visited by UFOs or exactly what has happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear the guy who called a little while ago and said he doesn't even look up in the sky because it scares him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he doesn't see many of them.
unidentified		I think he's from Ontario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he was, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, they can't see the sky too well there.
		They got a lot of pollution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it is true that if you live in a city all your life and you're used to having pollution, that to go, for example, up north, which is what he said, and to suddenly see the open sky would scare you.
unidentified		Yeah, well, a lot of people are afraid of that vastness if they've never experienced it.
		People on the East Coast, I think, appreciate the wilderness and our open skies, and we can see great things and weird things.
		I mean, not all of them are explained, but is it for us to understand everything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not yet, but I've got a feeling we're getting closer.
unidentified		Well, I hope so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend, I've got a scoot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks a million.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		From Nova Scotia again.
		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Is this our bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed.
unidentified		Yes.
		Hello.
		I'm flying from Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vancouver?
		Out west?
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		First time caller.
		And I have a question for you.
		Basically, on CNN a few months ago, I heard some news about an archaeological find out in Japan off of Okinawa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got it.
		They have located what appears to be a lost civilization in the waters off Japan and Okinawa, the Ryukyu Islands.
		And Linda Moultenhow is going to be reporting on that, I believe, this next week.
		And they've got videotape on the way.
unidentified		Is she reporting on a, is this on TV or something?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, on my show.
		On your show?
		I don't know whether you, do you get Dreamland?
unidentified		No, I don't get Dreamland, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I think you do on CFUN.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, check CFUN Sunday evenings at about 6 o'clock.
unidentified		I see, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah, that was interesting because, you know, it was just like a brief flash on CNN.
		And I said, well, hell, we'll talk about it in the newspaper or something.
		That was pretty important like they were talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a big story.
unidentified		10,000 years old and under 60 foot of water and precise cuts like the steps of the temple and stuff like that.
		That was really interesting.
		I'm surprised you don't hear about it.
		So it's good to know that someone's looking after that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we'll get the story out here, believe me.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		On Dreamland, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		And then on CoastAS well, yes.
		Oh, yes.
		They've located artifacts under the ocean off Okinawa, off the Ryukyu Islands, not far from Japan.
		And these are clear, unambiguous buildings and archaeological finds.
		So something, something was there.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Where are you?
unidentified		Gander, Newfoundland at the airport.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gander, Newfoundland?
unidentified		I'm as far east as you can get in North America and still be in North America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What time is it there now?
unidentified		It's right now 4:55 a.m.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		I'm leaving on a plane for Ireland.
unidentified		My name's Patrick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Patrick, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Great to see you.
unidentified		Very good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're my first call from Gander.
unidentified		I've enjoyed your show for years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, really?
unidentified		I've been living in the United States of Philadelphia.
		Uh-huh.
		And I'm flying out tonight.
		This will be the last time I'll be able to hear you for a while.
		But I get you on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what you can do?
		You can call me on our international line.
		Where is it you're going?
unidentified		I'm going to Shannon, Ireland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you can call me from there.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Free, too.
		Good.
		Have you made note of that number?
		It's 800-893.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		0903.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You get hold of the AT ⁇ T operator and tell her that's the number you want to call.
unidentified		It's in the U.S. and then call that.
		Yeah.
		Okay, well, you have a great show.
		I have one correction for you on tonight's program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I listened very intently.
		Earlier when you were talking about the suitcase-size nuclear warheads, you mentioned fusion.
		That's not fusion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, sir.
		No, no.
		The caller said that he would like to use it for power.
		And I said that would be fusion, and they haven't done that yet.
		I said, all you've got in a suitcase is a big bang.
unidentified		But you have fission.
unidentified		The warhead that's in the suitcase, a suitcase-sized nuclear weapon is fission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fusion, I understand.
unidentified		Whereas a hydrogen bomb or something more deadly than that, cobalt, what have you, that's fusion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was talking about a controlled fusion process.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That you could use for energy.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
unidentified		I've enjoyed the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
		Thank you from Gander, Newfoundland.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Vancouver.
unidentified		You're getting a lot of calls from Vancouver tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, it's a big place.
unidentified		Yeah, we're in North Vancouver.
		First of all, I hope you had a good vacation.
		I did.
		What do I want to talk about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing I went from 105 degrees to about 65 degrees.
unidentified		We were, actually the same time you were on your vacation, we were on ours.
		We were on a little lake up north, and for the first time, I got to experience what it's like to hear the sound of the radio come in and out.
		And these are all reruns of your show, and I was still riveted, even though I had heard the shows before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they were good ones.
		Listen, I've been on the air so long now that it's like we've got a stock of shows that goes back years and years and years.
		We've got all kinds of goodies.
unidentified		I was at a movie the other day, and I saw that there's a new 007 film coming up.
unidentified		And there was a quick brief glimpse of him up north somewhere, but it sure looked like a mock-up of the harp array in that movie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		So that could be interesting.
unidentified		And what else?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		gee, why even use a mock-up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not just go up there and film around the real thing, you know?
unidentified		Well, they were pretty close to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Um, I've got a scoot.
		Uh, we're at the top of the hour.
		Thank you very much.
		Vancouver, well, that was my Canadian hour.
		We're all over Canada.
		And glad to be too.
		I'm Arc Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		You're listening to Arch Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		The night featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
		I'm in the middle of the week.
		You've got to keep the height up on you.
		You're duty to know my girl.
		Give it up.
		There's a gun.
		Give it up.
		Dina Del.
		Dina Del.
		oh on the dead ocean blind and love another day
		Brother, every time you won't secret save this life, watch it in promotion as you turn around today.
		Take my breath away Take my breath away I'm happy I keep waiting When I run to the grave Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, here I am, and we got started late on that break.
		I got a call and got distracted.
		Happens once in a while.
		Sorry about that.
		Board ops, network, sorry about that.
unidentified		Missed it by a few seconds or so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, it looks like we've blown up the rogue market.
		Whenever I mention the rogue market and people go up there and start buying stock like crazy, we really blew it up this time.
		My name is gone and it's zeroed out.
		Don't worry.
		They'll get it fixed somehow.
		it was a pretty song I guess I've got to mention it less or something.
		We really blew it up this time.
		So don't worry by later today sometime it'll get fixed.
unidentified		People go up there and go, my investment zeroed out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
		It's just that we blew it out.
		This time it actually blew my name right out of there.
		Hey, rogue market people, fix it.
		Give my investors heart attacks.
unidentified		The End Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Art Bell East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Say, a question on the 100 missing nukes.
unidentified		In your opinion, what organization would our country have that would be the most capable of trying to keep track of that type of thing and preventing some kind of disaster?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		CIA.
unidentified		Okay.
		You know, it seems like that we all feel the Cold War is over, the world's a safer place.
		Uh-uh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've never felt that way.
unidentified		Well, I haven't either.
unidentified		And it seems like we want to cut funds or even dissolve the organization that would be most capable of preventing a disaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree with you completely.
		I don't know what to say.
		You're absolutely correct.
		It's what we're facing.
		It's again, and I'm not shamelessly plugging my book, or maybe I am, but it's a subject covered in there very extensively, and I expected it.
		I didn't quite expect a full hundred suitcase nukes to disappear.
		I mean, that's a little gross.
unidentified		But in the quickening of technology that you talk about, it seems like the world becomes more dangerous, not less dangerous.
unidentified		And if our best defense and first and best defense would be somebody like the CIA, it seems to me that it's sort of absurd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not the right time to be cutting their budget.
unidentified		Well, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're absolutely correct.
unidentified		Of all the things that are, of all the waste there are in government spending, it seems to me, you know, if you look at the hundreds of millions of dollars that people donate to the Jimmy Swaggarts to save their soul, surely we can come up with a little money to the one organization that could save our backside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		No, he's right.
		Yeah, there's a lot more danger now to the continental U.S., Hawaii and Alaska, I shouldn't forget you, and Canada.
		There's a lot more danger to us now than there was then.
		There's no question about it.
		Things have become very loose in what was the Soviet Union, very loose.
		And these things are getting out.
		Now, one of them is going to get used.
		It's going to happen.
		One of them is going to get used.
		Depend on it.
		It's a matter of where and when.
		When and where.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
unidentified		It's Meek and Oriana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're only allowed to pull one time, dear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a rule of the show.
unidentified		Oh, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		One time per show.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, let me turn my radio off.
		Hold on, sir.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have it nearby so you can do that quickly because I don't know.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
unidentified		Is this Ark?
		Yes.
		Hey, I've heard a lot of people come in.
		They're talking about being associated with men dressed in black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, they don't really know what they're talking about because you start out with a brown suit and then you go to a dark brown suit and then you graduate to your black suit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like karate.
unidentified		Yeah, well, it sort of is.
unidentified		And a lot of times you'll see somebody in a gray suit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the only way that you could know this is if you are yourself a MIB.
unidentified		Well, I belong to an organization that is so secretive that I don't even know the name of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really secret.
unidentified		Yes, sir, it is.
		And I can give you the name of a man dressed in black.
		Of course, he will deny it if you want to call him and interview him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no point if he's going to deny it.
		Well, trust me when I tell you.
		I can open an MIB line.
		I'll get lots of men in black.
unidentified		Well, he's with a skeptical inquirer.
		And his last name is.
		Now, he will deny it when you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He'll deny it, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They write articles about me all the time.
unidentified		I'm sure they do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They love my butt over there.
unidentified		But you might see Dan Rather.
		Now, a lot of people have questions about him.
		And a lot of times he'll wear a light gray suit and the suspenders and things.
		But don't let any of that throw you, you know.
		But men dressed in black, a lot of times they'll be dressed in some kind of a sports coat or a light gray.
		But you start out at brown, go to dark brown, then you work your way to black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's all write Dan a letter and demand to know the frequency.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks for the call.
		That's a true story.
		Those of you who are perhaps not old enough to remember, Dan Rather, some years ago, was accosted by a man on the street who demanded to know the frequency.
		Dan, of course, had no idea what he was talking about, or at least made out that way.
		And the guy was chasing Dan Rather down, wanted to know what the frequency was.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extinguish thy radio.
unidentified		Expect to get through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, you did.
unidentified		I've got turn that radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, turn the radio off.
unidentified		I just did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the question was, how many city blocks would a one kiloton weapon destroy?
unidentified		Okay, now, so I went out on the web and I did a search, and I got the information in kilometers.
unidentified		And I don't know the exact translation between kilometers and miles, but I'm going to assume it's miles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kilometers would be about double miles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many kilometers?
unidentified		It's we're talking about well, we're talking about four miles square, or four kilometers square.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so it would be a two-mile area then, roughly, would be gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of city blocks.
unidentified		Yeah, so we're talking about 34.
unidentified		I'm assuming a downtown area, there's usually four square blocks per mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And so we're talking about 64.
unidentified		If we're talking about four miles, by four miles, by four blocks per mile, we're talking about 64 square blocks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but we're not.
unidentified		Kilometers are half a mile.
unidentified		Kilometers are more than half a mile, aren't they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A kilometer is roughly double a mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Roughly double.
unidentified		So you're saying a mile is half a kilometer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's right.
unidentified		Okay, well, that shows you I live in the United States and don't know kilometers from anything else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a Canadian could help us out here.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, but it says, the thing, it says 400 meters across and 70 meters deep would be the crater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would just be the immediate blast area.
unidentified		Right.
		and he done this webpage, can we give you the webpage Earl?
		no I better not because somebody did that to me not long ago and it was some horrible little I searched for nuclear, near bomb, near range.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, very good.
		Nuclear, bomb, and range in Alta Vista.
		We'll get you there.
		I don't give out unknown web addresses because usually it's some Harville little pornographic site somewhere.
		I shouldn't say usually, sometimes, and so I just don't do it.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Ars.
		This is Bob from KVC Land.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Can I ask you a question?
unidentified		Before you went on vacation, you mentioned that you were going to have Story Musgrave on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am going to.
unidentified		Okay, I just wanted to make sure that was still on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Story called me and said that it would be about a month.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He had a lot of things going on in his life, and it would be about a month before he could be on, but he would call me as soon as he's ready.
unidentified		Okay, and one more quick thing.
		I sent you a fax.
		I know you don't remember it, but I'll say it.
		I sent it, it was Friday, August 8th, and it was three faxes, because I know that's your limit.
		And it had to do with a dog, Ginny, and 300 cats.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I don't remember it.
		I would have remembered 300 cats.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about 300 cats?
unidentified		Well, this man and this dog find cats.
unidentified		You know, I got a confirmation on it, and it was only three pages.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean his dog chases and gets cats for the guy?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what does he do with the cats?
unidentified		Some he keeps, some he sees and neuters and then, you know, tags them, you know, and sends them out, you know.
unidentified		But I sent a fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why does he do that?
unidentified		Well, you have to, it's like three pages because the dog senses these cats and he goes chases them and they're just not spe they're special cats like blind or they have brain tumors and stuff.
		And this man was kind of hurt in his garage.
		He was injured.
		And like Jimmy the dog picked up on it.
		and it was in a magazine, you know, in March.
		That would be weird.
		The local vet helps him.
		He's in New York.
		And he got from the magazine subscribers $6,000, including one check for $1,500 from Share.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's quite a story.
		I don't know how I missed it.
		Thank you very much.
		A man who has a dog who gets cats who are injured.
		Probably a generally enjoyable job for a dog anyway.
		Dogs like to chase cats.
		It's in their nature.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		How are we doing, Mr. Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are doing fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a doctor?
unidentified		Not really, but I, you know, just to be different.
		I see.
		I'm calling from Canada, actually, so good news.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, where in Canada?
unidentified		Quebec City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quebec City.
unidentified		It's the second time I phoned you, Boo, so I'll try to make it quick, but interesting.
		All right.
		All right.
		About time travel.
		You had the time travel line opened in early summer.
		That's right.
		And you had the pilot, supposed pilot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		He's real good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, the guy who flew into Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you know, what do you think of the idea of opening in the Area 51 employee line?
unidentified		Well, that's great.
		I'll be listening in for tomorrow to find out about that.
		But the pilot is not the guy who flew into Area 51.
		I'm not talking about that.
		I'm talking about the time pilot who is constantly improving on the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he said that if he took a newspaper 10 years in the future, various events might not come to pass because of shifting timelines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Okay, well, there's one theory.
		I had trouble with that because I recorded this conversation and I was listening to him and I had trouble with that.
		But there's one thing that gave me confidence in that theory because I know you believe in timeline shifts, right?
		Oh, yes.
		Okay, well, I had trouble with that theory, but now I'm beginning to believe because he had that scientist on like two weeks ago.
		He has an Asian name.
		He was talking about scientifically.
		And he didn't mention the term timeline shift, but it sounded exactly like that, except in scientific terms.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, that's exactly right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said exactly the same thing, that yes, you might blink out or whatever in one timeline, but that wouldn't be true in another.
unidentified		Okay, exactly.
		And in conclusion, I would just like to add, then you might come with the chicken and the egg again, because is it the time travelers who are causing these shifts?
		Because if you didn't have any time travel, you wouldn't have any timeline shifts, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		From the separate to the center in Quebec City.
		Yeah, tomorrow night in Area 51 in Polyline.
		That is going to be interesting.
		You want to sing tomorrow night to your chance?
		And I bet we get a a zillion calls too.
		We'll see.
		How many city blocks would a one-kiloton detonation destroy?
		I do not have that answer.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, how are you doing?
unidentified		We're in Santa Monica.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are we in Santa Monica?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Do you know something already?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You may be, but I'm here in Nevada.
unidentified		I figured that out.
		On TV, you're going to see that we have a space probe that went to Mars.
		Eventually, someone will turn it to the middle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go into orbit around Mars on Thursday evening, about 10 o'clock.
unidentified		And we've already seen pictures, and there's no landing site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, this is not going to land, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going to orbit Mars.
unidentified		No, I'm talking about the outer space people that come here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What outer space people?
unidentified		Well, you keep talking about space people landing and taking people away and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you mean abductions.
unidentified		Well, let me explain something very slowly to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very slowly?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I could take it fast.
unidentified		Okay, if there was any kind of spacecraft flying around, with space people in it, they would obviously have some kind of form of communication.
unidentified		In fact, their communication level would be higher than ours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know about their communication.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to tell me about that.
unidentified		Right now, see, they do.
		They go ack, ack, ack, ack, akk, ak, eck.
		Okay, now, you have the internet.
		You have the TV system.
		We have the radar system.
		And we have the launch pad.
		And to this day, the only thing that you've got is some pictures what you put on your website.
		And what I'm trying to explain to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's more than you've got.
unidentified		No, I don't believe.
unidentified		I have proof positive from this what I saw on TV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Proof positive?
unidentified		Right, I saw.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because you saw it on TV?
unidentified		because the spaceship went out there, and I don't feel they would alter that information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I saw it on TV, and I believe it, and I don't think they would alter that information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what I heard.
unidentified		Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Ari.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		I'm from Bonita Springs, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bonita Springs, Florida, okay?
unidentified		Yes, and I'm down here a little bit south of Fort Myers.
		Okay.
		And I've enjoyed your show since the beginning of April.
		In fact, April Fool's Day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll never forget that.
unidentified		Oh, man.
		And I've got so much to say, but I want to tell you that we have a group down here in Benita Springs in Naples.
		And we go on 11-meter CB on sideband.
		And we have like a QSO going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I would say to you guys?
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay the hell off 10 meters.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		Yes.
		We're strictly, strictly 40-channel CB.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad to hear that.
unidentified		And we enjoy your show out there.
unidentified		And I wish I could have a computer to find all the stuff that you have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all things in good time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, computers are getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty soon you'll be able to trade your 40-channel CB for one.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Could you do me a favor and tell everybody in Bonita Springs and Naples that Silverboy said hi?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you just did that.
unidentified		All right.
		All right.
		Thank you, and good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		Bonita Springs.
		Good buddy.
		Bonita Springs.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, hi.
		It's Rob.
		I'm just in a little town near Kelowna, just in D.C. here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Washington, D.C.?
unidentified		No, B.C., British Columbia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		B.C., all right.
unidentified		Yeah, I'll just let you know.
unidentified		Kilometer is 5 eighths of a mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I knew it was close.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Well, just so you know, just so you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You guys would know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're the ones who would know.
unidentified		We're the ones that got stuck with it, somehow or other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you like the kilometer thing, or would you rather not be using kilometers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you rather use miles like normal people do?
unidentified		I speak in miles.
		I grew up right when they sort of switched over, so I speak Imperial, but I know both kind of things.
		So I like Imperial.
		It's much easier to deal with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to run.
unidentified		Okay, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there you have it.
unidentified		five eight folks Baby, I meet your loving.
		Baby, I meet your loving.
		Oh, you're never near.
		Your voice are often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tomorrow, an Area 51 employee line.
unidentified		And often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your chance to sing like a bird.
		Be here.
		That's going to be fun.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from September
		9, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1997.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks, tonight's an ongoing presentation of Coast of Coast AM from September 9th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really like this song.
		Can you tell?
		I'm an abba nut, always have been.
		It's just something about them.
		It's something about their harmony.
		I'm not quite exactly sure what it is, but listen.
		I don't know.
		I like girls and I like harmony.
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		Now let's go back to the night of September 9th, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would somebody out there please email the people over at the Rogue Market and tell them to somehow fix what's going on?
		Because when we get a lot of traffic over there, it crashes.
		And even now it's crashed my name.
		And it goes 0000.
		And there's not even a name there.
		And if I was a stockholder, I'd be having a heart attack right now.
		I think, oh, my God, I lost my shirt.
		But it'll be back later today.
		They'll get it fixed.
		Now, they need to do something to fix that because I don't want to be giving heart attacks to my investors.
		Even if it is just rogue dollars.
		Art, I just checked on the internet and the bombs used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were about 10 kilotons each.
		So I don't know how much damage one kiloton would do, but I know I would not want to have a front seat.
		Ron in Bellevue, Washington.
		And then this, for your information from Mike, the blast from a suitcase nuke would only level a short distance, maybe a square mile.
		However, the resulting firestorm could take out a city the size of Indianapolis.
		That is from a Defense Department estimate.
		You know, I wonder who had these things last.
		It's not like one or two bombs are gone, but a hundred?
		A hundred bombs?
		A hundred suitcase bombs?
		Come on.
		One, two, even five.
		But a hundred, you would think they would notice.
		How many do you suppose they had stockpiled?
		What did they have this great room like hangar thing full of suitcases or what?
		Used to the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
		Yes, morning, Art.
		Good morning.
unidentified		I like to uh.
		Anyways, I've something happened here.
		I just temporarily lost my train of thought.
		Almost like watching Baywatch.
		Anyways, I have a...
		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I went to Alaska, you know who was on the ship?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Baywatch.
unidentified		Baywatch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		We got to cruise with Baywatch.
		It was extremely disconcerting all the way to Alaska.
		And they were filming a special Baywatch that will occur in 1998.
		And I have certain selected photographs that I took.
		I may put them on.
		I've been contemplating whether I should put them up on the net or not.
unidentified		Oh, shoot, why not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, because a lot of the gals weren't wearing much.
unidentified		Well, that's all the more reason to.
		Anyways, for the suitcase bomb?
		Yes.
		I have.
		I think I've thought of a good use for it.
		What?
		You could cure a multiple case of constipation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mass constipation.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Brilliant, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll try to get you one as soon as possible.
unidentified		I think I spent too much time alone here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so, too.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, we were with Baywatch the whole time.
		The whole Baywatch crew.
		And I won't give away the plot, but it was a big one.
		This was like a massive Baywatch.
		Special, I don't know, one or two hours or something.
		There were plenty of photo ops, believe me.
		Bluzz to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		It's Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Steve.
unidentified		I just got finished cooking chicken and a little rigatoni.
		You know, listening to you gets me hungry.
		I don't know what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
unidentified		But I want to ask you a question.
		This is usually, this is against my character, but I've always been curious and never had enough courage to ask you.
		Every time, I don't have a computer, so every time somebody calls the web, what's your cut?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zero.
		I don't participate in that because of money.
		Right.
		And the network makes no money from it either.
unidentified		But it does cost money to get on the web.
unidentified		Aside from the other stuff on the computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, these days, you can get on the web for, I mean, $19.95 flat rate.
		You can be on there 24 hours a day.
		Let me just say one more thing, Art.
unidentified		The bombs that are missing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the nukes.
unidentified		The Steves of America have got them.
unidentified		I rest my case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, all right, thank you.
		I have been getting a disproportionate number of faxes about the bombs from Steve's this morning, particularly with respect to their use.
		Here's another one.
		The important question is not how many city blocks could a 1KT suitcase nuke destroy, but how far would Art Bell get in disassembling one before the rest of the world learned the answer to the above question?
		Funny.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yes, hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Michael from Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Michael.
unidentified		Yes, I spoke to you yesterday about becoming a man in black.
unidentified		And you kind of gave me the runarounds and things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said you apply at man in black headquarters.
unidentified		Yeah, but you didn't give me like a P.O. box, any kind of information, nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you, you've got to know I can't do that.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, what would you recommend?
		I mean, if I just wanted to look into it and find out if I would qualify.
		Because I just, you know, I feel that I've done a lot of things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't qualify.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Based on what you told me yesterday, you thought men in black were researchers.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're not.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Can I make one more point?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I don't know if you – okay, on the 5 freeway going north toward Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		The 15.
		Okay, I'm sorry.
		There are streets which basically do not go anywhere.
		And this is part of my personal research.
		I don't know if you're familiar with places like Aftron Road, which leads to 29 Palms.
		But there are streets north of that, such as Zizix Road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zysix?
unidentified		Yes.
		And Basin Road.
		It's a road that goes, basically, it turns into a dirt road which goes nowhere.
		And part of my research, I wanted to know, is what are the purpose of these roads?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, for one thing, you've got your radio on in the background, and that's a no-no.
		So it's a little bit better than that.
		And I don't think I have any ready answer for this.
		I'm familiar with Zizik's Road, but I why would they build roads that go to nowhere?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To make people like you call talk shows.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really don't have an answer.
unidentified		Okay, and about your book, really quick.
unidentified		Okay, what are the main bookstores that carry your book?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, almost anyone now.
		It began all Barnes & Noble.
		Barnes & Noble Superstores, Bookstar, Bookstop, E. Dalton, Borders Books, Walden Books, blah, blah.
unidentified		Would Book Empire happen to have that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
		Okay.
		It's everywhere.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Well, I'm just going to keep continuing on my hunt to learn how to become a man in black because I feel I've seen a lot and I feel I deserve to be one here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got to go further to convince me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the thing on Zizix was pretty good, but you've got a ways to go yet.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, I walked Zizix Road, and let me tell you, what's at the end of it, it's a great mystery, let me tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps if you solve something like that, then you're a candidate.
unidentified		All right?
unidentified		Thank you for your time, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you bet.
		I can't tell you where MIB headquarters is.
		Give me a break.
		I think I want to be cut down in my relative youth.
		I have more work to do here.
		Tomorrow night, Area 51, employee line, is open.
		It is your opportunity to sing like a bird.
		Believe me, your opportunity to sing like a bird.
		It's going to be an interesting night.
		I've never done that.
		I've opened lines for everything else under the sun, but never Area 51 employees.
		So tomorrow night we'll do that.
		Wildcard Line?
		Wow, fooey.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Brad from Sexton, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Brad.
unidentified		Hey, I was wanting to know if you saw a commercial that I saw on Sunday.
unidentified		It's a McDonald's commercial involving, looks to be about 15-year-old kid and the cat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did he see that?
		Not yet.
		I don't recognize it yet.
		I don't watch a whole lot of commercial TV.
		I watch the news and hardly anything else on commercial TV.
		Otherwise, I watch the movie channels.
unidentified		Oh, well, that works on the afternoon.
unidentified		I've got what Network is on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Sunday, I watch football, NFL football.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's about it.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, it's always cute little cat, and it's like, I warned Falk Bell saw that.
		You would love it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would love it.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll watch for it.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'll prostate myself and watch a little TV, all right?
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks.
unidentified		See ya.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't seen that commercial yet.
		McDonald's has done some pretty cute commercials.
		In fact, commercials are some of the most creative things on television.
		East of the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, this is Scott from Southport, North Carolina.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Scott.
unidentified		Hey, quick thing.
		I was just kind of bored here with a piece of paper.
		If the gentleman was saying four square kilometers, that would be roughly 25 blocks.
		It's four blocks a mile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And, well, that's about it.
unidentified		I was just bored.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you were just doing the math for us?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Good to work the old brain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think one of those suitcases is somewhere in the country already?
unidentified		Wouldn't surprise me.
unidentified		With 100, you could just pick cities out of random and just start to push political points all over the place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not like we've got a real tight border, huh?
unidentified		Not at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where do you think they would hit?
unidentified		Not to scare anybody, I'd have to say New York or Los Angeles, the two big ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or Washington.
unidentified		Or Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		D.C., yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		New York or L.A. All right, thank you very much.
unidentified		Yeah, probably Wall Street.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've thought about that.
		Wall Street, that would be extremely disruptive.
		Los Angeles, I don't think L.A., it's too spread out.
		One kiloton's not enough.
		It would be disruptive.
		But L.A. is too spread out.
		You'd have more effect in New York.
		Or maybe the buildings, big and tall as they are, would shield things.
		I don't know.
		Political effect, Washington, D.C., of course.
		They were interviewing me on our new affiliate, WWRC, in Washington, D.C., the other day, and we were talking about this.
		And I said, you know, if I was in Washington, I'd be worried.
		Not exactly a way to endear yourself to a new affiliate, but I really meant it.
		That's probably the target of, the kind of target a terrorist would choose, or worse yet, and I really mean worse yet, some sort of nuclear facility.
		You know, like a major plant of some kind.
		West of the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Captain Terry.
		Okay.
		The equivalent of one kiloton yield, by the way, is 2 million pounds of TNT, and this is roughly equivalent to the blast of the ammonium nitrate ship that was in the harbor at Halifax during World War I when it blew up and destroyed the entire city.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll ask you the same question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the odds are that one of those things is somewhere in the country now?
unidentified		Well, if you take a small pocket Geiger counter and start applying it to the, you know, the trunk area of various taxicabs, I think you'll probably find one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would think that, thank you very much.
		If they were putting them in suitcases, the obvious use for such a device is stealth.
		To be able to transport it, it would probably be lined with something that would prevent easy detection, wouldn't you think?
		I don't know how you'd do that, lead-line suitcase.
		Well, I don't know what you'd do.
		But I'm sure anybody ingenious enough to put one kiloton of a nuclear device in something the size of a suitcase would be ingenious enough to figure out a way that detection would be very difficult.
		I don't know.
		I know we have a special task force that looks for things like this.
		But 100 of them?
unidentified		100?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Argus.
		Chip from Memphis.
		How you doing?
		Okay.
		I just want to call.
		I don't know if you remember now, but you remember that guy named Stephen Gibbs that you interviewed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, Time Machine Gibbs.
unidentified		Yeah, remember he said something about the September nuke, some kind of nuclear explosion.
unidentified		What do you think about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, better Memphis than Perump.
unidentified		I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, You asked me what I thought.
unidentified		Yeah, well, there's more to do on the West Coast anyway, so you can have that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the odds are one of these foul little things has already made it into the country?
unidentified		I think it's about 56%.
		I would think it would be a great idea for their side to do that.
		I mean, they could detonate it from a remote area, and they never have to launch a ballistic missile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		So if you need something to be worried about, worry about that.
		That's all in my book.
		Believe me, it's a very substantial portion of the book.
		So none of this, none of it surprises me.
		None of it.
		You will find it, shamelessly, he plugs, in The Quickening by Art Bell.
		And go to your bookstore, wherever your bookstore is, and request it.
		If they don't have it, they can get it very quickly now.
		It's distributed nationwide.
		Check it out, check it out.
		Number 22, hardcover nonfiction.
		Number 6, hardcover nonfiction business on the New York Times bestseller list.
		News of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hi, Mr. Bell.
		This is Janet, and I'm from Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Janet.
unidentified		May I speculate where the bomb might go off?
unidentified		That suitcase bomb you were talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you may.
		Oh, great.
		Yeah, great.
		That would just be great.
		And then we would immediately have another Korean war.
unidentified		Wouldn't it be awful?
unidentified		I actually had a dream about it, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did?
unidentified		Yes.
		About three weeks ago.
		Garment workers' bodies were flying through the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be a totally, completely horrible place for it to go off.
unidentified		This worried me a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so it should.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, Seoul South Korea, that'd be awful.
		Absolutely awful.
		All right, we're at the end of it.
		I think I'm going to go out a different way this morning.
		It's with my dream girl, Mrs. Crystal Gale.
		Don't it make my brown eyes blue?
unidentified		Don't know where I've been so blue.
		Don't know where you.
		You found someone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen this woman's hair?
unidentified		And don't I make my brown eyes blue?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, she has to be careful not to walk on it.
unidentified		I'll be fine when you're gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I got to meet her, too.
unidentified		I describe all that long.
		Baby is the truth.
		And on to make my bright eyes move.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, when they named her, they must have been talking about her voice.
unidentified		Tell me some lies Give me no reason Give me alibi Tell me you love me.
		And don't let me cry.
		Say anything, but don't say goodbye.
		I didn't mean to treat you bad what I had.
		But honey, I do.
		And I make my branch.
		And I break my brain out.
		and i like piano too
		Don't I make my brother Nora Miss My Brother Dona Branaku, my brother,
		Lord I love my mind, Lord I love my friend I'm blue Ooh Ooh Ooh This is how to do that toward the end here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, folks.
		We'll be back tomorrow night, and we'll have open lines once again with one exception, and that is the Area 51 employee singing line.
		That should be very, very interesting.
		You watch, we'll get the calls, pass the word, Area 51 employees tomorrow night.

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