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Sept. 11, 1997 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines with Area 51 Employees Call-in

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unidentified		You're listening to a rebroadcast of one of Art Bell's most popular programs.
		When you hear phone numbers, please do not call.
		Now, please enjoy this encore presentation of Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many, many prolific time zones.
		From the Hawaiian and Teishn Island chains in the west, eastward, across flyover country to the Virgin Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands, Caribbean, where Montserrat continues to smoke and choke into South America, north to the Pole, this is Coast to Coast AM, the largest live overnight talk radio program in America.
		Isn't that amazing?
		I'm Mart Bell, and we will do open lines tonight, with one little exception.
		Now, last night I was doing a little bit under the weather, so I wouldn't hear any dust-hear repeat.
		Now, as you know, I plan to do my Area 51 employee line.
		But we didn't do that, so we'll do it tonight.
		This should be interesting.
		It is your chance to sing like a bird.
		If you are currently employed at Area 51, the area the U.S. government says officially does not exist, or if you have been employed at Area 51 in the past, and now feel ready to sing, perhaps you can call up and disguise your voice or something, I don't know.
		Anyway, something like that, and uh, if you want to call up and sing, it's going to be your night to sing.
		It'd be fun to see if we get any calls.
		Now, what I'm going to do is suspend my first-time caller line, which of course is Area Code 702-727-1222.
		And that is now officially, as of this moment, the Area 51 singing line.
		All right?
		So, only if you have worked at Area 51 or you presently work at Area 51, should you call Area Code 702-727-1222.
		What else is going on in the world?
		Well, incredibly, not much, because as you can see if you watched the various network newscasts tonight, the Princess Dye story continues to lead apparent interest, which to me means there's not a hell of a lot going on.
		In the Dye story, they are now preparing to consider charging the hotel at which the driver did his apparent drinking, three times legal limit, I guess, huh?
		They're going to charge the hotel.
		Now, only in Paris, I suppose, only in Paris would such a thing occur.
		Or a socialized country someplace.
		Maybe kind of like this place these days.
		I mean, we are getting ready to sue gun manufacturers for the actions of those who own them, aren't we?
		So it's not so far out of line, even though it kind of feels that way.
		The Army is battling or continues to battle sexual harassment from a PR point of view.
		They're now saying that sexual harassment in the armed services crosses all lines.
		Gender lines, rank lines, every line.
		It's going on all over the place.
		And what else is new?
		You ever think women ought to be in the military?
		I've always wondered about that.
		In some jobs, yes.
		But in large numbers, I've always thought it was a mistake.
		And I continue to think so.
		They're talking about adding another week to the Godforsaken basic training.
		I had mine down in Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio in the middle of the summer.
		Oh, man, that was horrible.
		Hot.
		Anyway, they're talking about adding another week to those hell weeks and essentially giving people a sensitivity training week.
		They showed us when I was in the Air Force films, horrible films depicting what could occur to one were one to contract some horrible social disease.
		Things that approximated the films they showed us about what would occur if there was a nuclear war.
		It was horrible.
		So now I guess we are going to get a sensitivity training weekend, basic training.
		I'm sure glad I'm in and already out.
		Thank you very much.
		Last night, you may recall, I told you, I told you we're trying to get an update from Daniel Brinkley.
		Let me take a quick break and see if I can get this handled because I asked Daniel if he would like to do an update tonight, and he said he would.
		Danien, is this perchance you?
unidentified		Hi, Arnville.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hi, Daniel.
		How are you doing?
		I'm so glad to hear from you.
		I thought, gee, the show got started and my phone lines are ringing, and you'd never make it through, and so I managed to get a line for you.
		That's great.
unidentified		That's a great man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Tell if you are up to it, Daniel.
		Tell everybody what happened to you, when it happened, and what's happened since.
		What happened to you?
unidentified		Well, I was dealing with a hospice patient heart.
		And I'm a person that has to have, I don't like to tell my whole medical life, but I have to take anticoagulants because I have a heart valve, and I have to take tests for staph infections, and I have to watch out for all these things that could kill me.
		And by the regulation, since the medicine I take is the anticoagulant, it's like toumidin, which is the same basic ingredient of decon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rust poison.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And I take enormous amounts of it, and if it gets slightly, the slightest thing could be regulated.
		And in the course of running and doing like everybody who does out in everyday life, I just don't like people dying alone.
		And I worked so hard to try to piece that together, and I stayed so driven at it.
		And I got my levels down low, and I called a doctor, and we stepped them up, and I didn't get a chance to take the test so that I could watch it on a regular thing.
		And it's just, I mean, I've lived with this for eight years since the heart valve, and I've never missed it this bad.
		But in came the holidays, and I was working with another, I got another veteran, and he was, you know, he was at that place, so I had to be there.
		And I was tired, and then I got right back up, and I popped a blood vessel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what happened is you got your regimen sort of out of order.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
		It went from the place where I go in.
		When we talked the last time when we were on the phone, it had just dropped to like in the 12s and the 13s, which means my heart valve clogs, and I'm dead from my body coagulating the blood.
		And then when I got to adjust it, and as it was adjusted, it adjusted way too high, and it went to 44, which means literally fat passing out, and I was bleeding in my brain.
		And I go through this, except that I couldn't stand up, and I started blacking out.
		And I never had, it's been a long time since I've had those kinds of pains and headaches and stuff.
		And I called my doctor and he says, look, you're at over 45.
		That means you're right there.
		Get here.
		And by the time I got to the emergency room, I didn't know where I was.
		I was drifting in that place and then I'd started bleeding in my brain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They found three aneurysms, didn't they?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Three areas where you were at.
unidentified		What had happened, one two small ones and a large one.
		And it just started pouring blood into my brain.
		And the pressure started to where I was losing, I lost momentum on my left side.
		And they got me here and they started to work on it.
		I mean, brain scans and all that kind of stuff.
		And they were looking to see because of so much cumidin, so much anticoagulant, that this stuff was pouring out of my brain and that they were going to have to crack my skull open and the third of my skull and go in and try to stop them.
		But they couldn't do that because it would create 15 to 20 more clots when they closed that up, which would have to pass through the heart valve.
		And then they started looking at what would rescind and how they were going to drill holes in my skull and then worry about how to break the clots up moving through my heart so it didn't damage the heart valve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I remember you're saying when things were really rough, that they wanted to drill holes in your head and they wanted to open up your chest so that when the clots passed, they would have immediate access to your heart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, they'd already have you opened up.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you said...
unidentified		In the old days, they split me from my neck all the way down to my stomach, and they spread it open.
		It's now like four-inch stuff.
		You know, it's not like it's tough, but science is better.
		I've learned a lot about medicine in eight years.
		But when we finish, so they were going to have to do that and then watch it.
		And you have to thin the blood for surgery.
		I can't have blood that coagulates, which would keep me alive, because that'll clog my heart valve and my heart would stop.
		Right.
		And that's just the place where I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you told them no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said, no, you're not going to open up my chest.
unidentified		Absolutely not.
		Are they crazy?
		I figured that if I could stop the bleeding internally, if I could get inside of myself, I've done it before.
		I live here.
		We are spiritual beings.
		And the pain was so great, I had to get in myself.
		When they got me into intensive care, you know, better living through chemistry is one thing, Art.
		But the true nature of us as a spiritual being to draw deep down inside of ourselves, alone and when it is, and that we have the potential to do it.
		And what was so remarkable for me was that the moment people started hearing it, as I was struggling there and I was drifting in those worlds, you know, I live in those three worlds like I write about in my books, and I live there, and this is who I am.
		It's amazing even to me as I lie here, and I'm looking at the ceiling, a suspended acoustical ceiling, you know, in a room, in a hospital, like eight years ago.
		I looked at the ceiling before open heart surgery.
		I've been looking at this ceiling for brain surgery or heart attacks or strokes for four days and enormous pain, covered in a bruise, not knowing where I am, pumping these chemicals through me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I asked you, Daniel, remember?
		I asked you, you said you were bruising, and I said, you mean you've got bruises all over?
		And you said, no, I am a bruise.
unidentified		No, I am a bruise.
		I have, you wouldn't, it's unbelievable.
		I am purple.
		I mean, I'm bruised because of just the stuff that you go through, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got four IVs in you right now?
		Four IVs right now.
		And you're on the phone.
		Daniel.
		Tell me, did it bring back memories, Daniel, lying there looking at the ceiling again?
unidentified		Art, watch out, try this one, Art.
		This is September.
		It was a thunderstorm this morning when I woke up.
		For the first time, I'm off the list.
		I'm looking at the ceiling again like I did before.
		September the 17th at 7.05 p.m.
		1975, I got struck by lightning and I woke to a thunderstorm this morning.
		And just a few days from now will be 22 years.
		22 years ago.
		Now I've been through struck by lightning in 1975 and struck by lightning in 1978.
		I've been through dealing with being paralyzed and getting up over that and struggling through two years of learning to walk and feed myself and so much madness and struggling and then trying to fulfill a vision and staying so driven.
		It's amazing what you see when you sit here and so driven.
		And then to look at how much I've been gone through and then here I come in September and I'm almost right there again.
		It's like they never let me get over the fact that sometimes I might try to forget that this is what's really happening to me in my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you think that you were going to live through this one, or were there moments?
unidentified		They had moments.
unidentified		I didn't have them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not talking about them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about you.
unidentified		No, the doctors had them.
		And I was hurting so bad sometime I didn't really care.
		But I'm saying we are living in the greatest times ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, Danian, the late news on you is all three of the aneurysms stopped bleeding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are clots, but they're beginning to dissolve now, right?
unidentified		Well, two of them are, and then there's one that they have to worry about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You still can't sit up or stand up, can you?
unidentified		I can't walk too far.
		You know, and they pump so much blood thinner through me, and they're trying to balance the chemistry in me, because if they don't balance the chemistry, something can happen, and the clock can move, and the clock moves, and it all starts again.
		And the pain is always in my head.
		But here was the key.
		I was laying in that intensive care, and people dying around me.
		I'm thinking of who I am again.
		Here I am, not the guy that's the hospice volunteer, but one of the things that I'm doing.
		The guy that's the hospice volunteer, the guy that's out talking and lecturing.
		I'm the guy that I'm out there for.
		I'm him, and I'm looking at an acoustical ceiling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you were in there with a lot of people at first, and I remember you said you had to get out of there because I'm just laying it out for the audience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember you telling me there were people dying all around me, and I couldn't concentrate.
unidentified		Well, I'm so, it's amazing what's happening to me as I begin to be the perceptions about things.
		But in my life, I always deal with my stuff inside because I heal from the inside out like everybody.
		We're spiritual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you heal yourself, and under those conditions, I take it, you couldn't do that.
unidentified		I was picking up.
		They got me there.
		My head's splitting and open.
		I can't hardly think.
		I can't think.
		And I can't put myself in an order.
		I just have to try to get away from the pain and determine what's wrong with me.
		And then the emergency room wasn't so bad.
		There were just a couple of things.
		But they moved me to intensive care right in front of the ward because I'm in really bad trouble.
		And so a lady, a little 20-year-old girl with asthma, her lungs are collapsed.
		They ventilated me, popping her open.
		A lady with cancer is right next to her, and there was one hollering, and they're rushing in and out.
		And I can't get inside because I'm feeling those emotions, and I'm picking up all those psychologies that my mind normally picks up because I deal with hospice and these kinds of situations, except it's happening to me, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you had to get inward and all that noise and all of those feelings that you were absorbing around you with.
unidentified		All those sounds that people make when they're thinking without knowing we are spiritual.
		This is what I gain the most out of it.
		In this world of where medicine is, it's better living through chemistry because chemistry has helped me.
		It's helped me right here.
		I've seen it again, how terrified people are because they forget how spiritual we are and how interconnected that we are and how truly loving and close every single one of us are.
		And now I know I didn't know you went on the air and told people to think about me and to send me love and to send prayers or thoughts or whatever they would want to do.
		But I felt it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did, Daniel, because I believe in the power of prayer.
unidentified		Listen to me.
		If you were lying right now, if you were trying to tell me that you did not do it, I would know you were a liar.
		Because through that phone and through this place, all of a sudden I began to be bathed in a love of energy that could only be somebody loving me, not somebody concerned with my health, but somebody loving me to take a time from a moment from their job or from what they were doing.
		And I'm in here hurting and to think about whoever they knew about me or whatever they knew about me to care about me.
		A room filled with a blue hue.
		And I'm not on drugs or anything.
		I live in this world and I see it and I'm bathed in it and I'm watching it.
		And I see myself starting to break and come out of it where I see no surgery.
		We're not going to do it.
		Let me fight it.
		And I would do things to, I played, I listened to music eight hours a day.
		I put on Stephen Halpern and the healing tapes and guided imagery tapes and I stayed deep inside myself and I kept pulling that love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I talked to your cousin who took you to the hospital.
		He said you began that process.
		He said, as a matter of fact, Daniel hardly said two words to me all the way to the hospital.
unidentified		He's a two-hour drive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he started going into himself at that point before you even got to the doctor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
unidentified		Yeah, but you see, Art, I didn't know he told you that.
		But Art, in the way that I've learned through 22 years of near-death experiences, in the way that I've learned and I've looked at a vision that I had, I never ever put it into the true context that everybody else was out there just like me and that we're close together and the people who listen to this radio show and the whole world together, we have a connection to each other that somewhere exists within the framework of our mental and physical dynamic.
		And it's a spiritual dynamic.
		And it's there because I go inside where I know where that spiritual place is.
		I built the center for why I have it down.
		And you know, why I built the centers, why I write the books, why I work on it.
		That's why I did it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I want to talk to you about the spiritual side.
		We're spiritual beings inside physical bodies.
		Daniel, hold on.
		We're at the bottom of the arrow.
		Can you hold them tight?
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Thanks, Mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hang tight.
		We'll be right back.
		From the high desert, this is Coast and Coast A.M. I'm Mark Bell.
		With us, from his hospital room, Danion Brinkley.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back now to an unidentified area in the south where Daniel Brinkley is sitting in a hospital room.
		Not exactly an unknown thing for Daniel.
		How you doing, Daniel?
		Still there?
unidentified		I'm doing pretty good, Art.
unidentified		I'd like to tell everybody else that this is really good therapy for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Being on the air?
unidentified		Well, I've been on this bed a long time and been through a lot of stuff like learning about what other people are going, still going back through and thinking about how much they have helped me and how much the whole point of what we're all about as friends and part of people and what the Art Bell Show is about and the people of the night is that we love each other and we care about each other and that they could send love to me and then I can lay in this room and I can feel it now.
		I can lay in this room covered in bruises, but coming out of it and I can feel that love now.
		And when people were sending me all that love art, people like Larry Dossie who wrote a book on prayer, I was able to listen because I read and think about prayer to take those prayers and that love and those thoughts that were being sent to me and convert it to me as a useful product.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a question about prayer, Daniel?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder about prayer a lot.
		There is no question in my mind, prayer works.
		For yourself, for others, prayer works.
		But I'm not sure why.
		It's funny, Daniel, when you were at the worst, CNN was running a thing about prayer, the power of prayer.
		And they had a doctor on, and he said, you know, 70 to 90% somewhere in there of people who take placebos will declare there to be an improvement in whatever condition they took them for.
unidentified		And 45% have a true and lasting resolve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		He said, so I don't know if it's God, but I know it works.
		This was a God.
unidentified		Listen, Art, that's not God.
		That's the divine might and power and the spirit within each of us as spiritual beings within this physical body.
		The moment I got in this hospital, Art, no matter how dying I am, no matter how much it hurts and I can't think and I can't see, I get a full spectrum white enzyme.
		I make sure that the people close to me have me enough of trace minerals that I can take in small supplements.
		I get celery.
		I get pears.
		I get prunes.
		And I'll get one or two other things like a fruit, a papaya that has a strong with a lot of PABA in it.
		That's all I eat, and I drink water.
		When you come to a hospital, everybody eats the same meals.
		They do the same stuff.
		But I'm not doing that.
		This is a place that should be hallowed and a place to come to heal in a sanctuary.
		And it's just better living through chemistry and maintenance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you've got people slipping food in for you.
unidentified		Well, I bring my stuff with me.
		So I put it in the bag.
		I've been here before, and I know what this body, this body must have certain things in it, full.
		It must have its trace minerals.
		It must have this.
		and nutrition is not a part of medicine.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do your doctors say?
		I mean, here you refused a lot of the treatment.
		I mean, what are they saying?
		How are they accounting for the way you're healing?
unidentified		Well, my cardiologist, which has been with me eight years, who's an Army doctor who's really cool, he leaves me alone because he told me, he said, you know, you should have been dead years ago.
		He leaves me alone because he knows I can go.
		Because once you've been dead, Art, and you know you don't die, and this is all about what prayer is, and you know you don't die, then what do you do and what lives on?
		We have energy fields of bodies around us, and I swear this to everybody listening.
		This is not a story.
		This is what we really have.
		We have energy fields around us, and by going through being dead, I've seen them.
		And when you're in trouble in your physical self, you have to work in those energy fields.
		You must get to those energy fields to work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you do that?
unidentified		Well, you do it through a discipline, the foods that you, the supplements that you're just talking about, really taking a good look at your spiritual self, finding practical spirituality and practicing things like meditating.
		I've listened to music eight hours a day, inner sancting music with my earplugs.
		I never not take my earplugs out and I bear the pain and I focus in my body to heal.
		I change my blood pressure in here.
		If I need the blood pressure at a certain place and nurses, they act funny.
		And my cardiologist is, he's just been with me for so long and he knows that I use alternatives and I use compatible medicines and I use energy medicines and Qigong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does he agree with you?
		I mean, does he understand?
		He's seen it enough so he knows it works now and he doesn't shake his finger at you.
unidentified		All of them do that, but I'm still here.
		What are you supposed to say?
		I'm here.
		And, you know, better living through chemistry is worse medicine is today.
		I've learned this.
		They are dealing with bicarbs.
		They are dealing with blood gases.
		They are dealing with tumors.
		Doctors, and I have two really good ones, the neurosurgeon and the neurologist and the cardiologist, all three of them, because it's so complicated.
		They're chemists.
		We must put the art of healing back into this system.
		This is what's missing from it, and prayer comes into play.
		Prayer works.
		Prayer is not some religious pointor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, this doctor on CNN, Daniel, what he said was, the key word seems to be faith, whether it's faith in a placebo or faith in God or faith in your spiritual self, whatever it is, the key word he said is faith.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you have faith, you can cure yourself.
unidentified		He's wrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How would you say it?
unidentified		It's the love of yourself.
unidentified		In order for those people, Art, On your show, and everybody from the bottom of my heart, from my soul, for every moment that you took from your jobs and you place and you thought about me, I felt it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's as real as anything in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not a placebo, it's real.
unidentified		Hey, it's more real than anything in this world.
		We are, it's not faith, it's love.
		The love of ourselves and the love of someone else to give to someone else.
		Faith, having faith is a belief system in something.
		I do not have to believe.
		I do not have to have faith.
		This night, as I lay in this room knowing I'm going to get up and I'm going to make it again, and I'm going to come back caring more and loving more about people and helping more in people facing these issues that I am now one of them again looking at the ceiling.
		When you go before surgery and you're looking at the ceiling of a hospital, what you're looking at is acoustical ceiling.
		That's what you're looking at.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's your life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, all your human life ceiling.
unidentified		Well, I haven't booked at one of these in a long time, Mark.
unidentified		I'm looking at one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember, I think I told you, Danny, 30 days on my back because of my back, and I learned every little tiny...
		That was my only exercise.
		I'd throw a BIC lighter up and see if I could just knock one of those little curly things off.
		Yeah.
		You just start doing dumb stuff like that.
		You're right.
		You go inside yourself.
unidentified		But see, Art, we have people lying in his place.
		This is a stroke ward is where we're on now.
		We have people lying in a stroke ward waiting to have surgery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or a stroke.
unidentified		Or a stroke.
		And they don't have a spiritual place.
		They don't have it.
		They don't have a place where we've included within the framework of the new ways of medicine and what's going on that spiritual place.
		And that's what I've learned because I lie here not afraid.
		I just hurt.
		And I'm not afraid.
		I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.
		I'm staying inward.
		I'm training.
		I'm looking.
		I'm watching.
		No one's ever taught it to them.
		And you can bet that the love that was sent to me came to people around me.
		I watched the nurses who came into this room.
		I watched the people and how they've reacted because they see and feel the kind of love that's sent here.
		Love works.
		I mean, power works.
		We are spiritual beings.
		We have the ability to change and alter so much stuff.
		And I never thought I'd ever see the day that I would want to stay here on this side as opposed to return to the other side.
		But I'll tell you something.
		I wouldn't miss the next five or six years of what's going to happen in the quickening and in the things for anything.
		But we have to take our, we have to look at if we were able to do this for one another, like you've done for me, and that that spiritual place that we are that now everybody, because you're listening to me tell you this, the spiritual place that we are, we have the power to change many things.
		If we took something just one day today, we all as art naughts, like astronauts, is what I call us, that we cared and loved something, we focused on something, you really think that massive spiritual intervention can stop what might be coming otherwise?
		As much as I hate to admit this for the first time in my life, Armel, I have to say yes.
		I would have never.
		No one could have gotten me.
		I have felt and seen in my own self as just a guy lying here where two out of every three, three out of every five men in the United States will be diagnosed with cancer.
		One out of every three women will have breast cancer.
		I've been reading the statistics as I lie here and face myself.
		This is everybody I know.
		And within the context of this healing institution, this chemistry place I'm in, to be able to put love back in here, and I see the importance of my hospice, but I see the importance of putting a spiritual, practical spirituality and understanding the near-death experience and the dynamics of our energy bodies and how those energy bodies, and to be touched and to be cared about.
		There's nothing to do with faith.
		We are powerful and mighty interconnected spiritual beings.
		We have greatness.
		We have destiny.
		And damn it, we have purpose.
		And we are connected.
		And I don't care what chemists say and scientists say because I'm coming out of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a question for you, Daniel.
unidentified		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember when you were struck by lightning?
unidentified		Oh, no, Art.
unidentified		I just forgot that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
		All right.
		No, no.
		Let me finish the sentence.
		When you were struck by lightning, you acquired a lot of psychic ability, really more than you wanted.
		You were hearing people and things crashing around you mentally, hearing people's thoughts.
		And then you told me in the last interview we did that that began to slowly fade over the years.
		And what I'm wondering is, and the reason I'm asking this, is because the other day you said it came suddenly rushing back with what just happened to you over the last week or so.
		Is that right?
		It came rushing back?
unidentified		Something's happening to me, Art.
		I mean, it's not like being struck by lightning and the dramatics of what happened in Chiro Minomedicine and the Lightning Shaman story.
		But never.
		I was struck by lightning.
		That changed me.
		I was, you know, been through trauma.
		You know, I opened heart surgery.
		I was close to that place again, but it was the love of people that felt like I had done something that contributed to their lives.
		That is the most amazing thing to me in my existence, that the kind of love that I have felt that strengthened me and opened up through this trauma like everybody thinks happen in trauma, it opens up a whole different spiritual way for me to look at myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe your brain starts doing something a little differently when it's facing the ultimate trauma, huh?
unidentified		You know, Art, I've been through all that brain stuff doing stories with lightning.
		We are spiritual beings.
		And what has occurred is I'm watching myself change.
		I'm moving into a different level of how I perceive.
		I am perceiving more things, but it's of a different level.
		I can't say, hey, Art, I understand it right now.
		I can understand reading people's minds.
		I do this without any problem.
		It's childplay.
		I'm looking at more dimensions of stuff that I don't really understand.
		I don't really understand them, but it's pretty wild to see that they exist in there and how wonderfully, how wonderful it is.
		We must, as an Art Bell show, we must pick our subjects.
		We must plan our times.
		And we must send our love and our power and our strength to surround it, protect it, and help it grow.
		And we must plan it, and we must do this because I've never seen the outpouring of love that I've ever felt in my life for people saying, thank you, Daniel, and for something you've done to help me.
		And that one single part of it is the greatest transformation in me, but it's opening up whole dimensions of me.
		But if we can do it for me, we can do it for each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you're right.
unidentified		We can do it for each other.
		So, Art, don't listen for just this one night.
		Let your mind flow and realize that there's a great and wondrous spiritual world that we are all an integrated part of.
		We are interconnected in divinity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Daniel, you've got to be right, Daniel, because if you're.
unidentified		I'm lying in this damned hospital bed, Art, with my brain stop bleeding.
		I'm going to get up.
		I'm waiting for the blood clots to pass in my heart so I don't slur my speech or make you stumble around.
		I have to get back up and start again in life, but with a deeper sense of commitment, a more devoted brotherhood to the people that listen to me, that listen that I've helped in their lives, and that they return that love to me, and that it is changing me.
		And millions of people, there were hundreds of thousands of responses from everywhere, everywhere, Art.
		It didn't 10 people.
		They were packing it everywhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One more thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you get back up, it'll be with a slower schedule, Daniel.
unidentified		Yes, Master.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A slower schedule.
unidentified		But I can see how I can do it.
		So the other thing, Art, and thanks for letting me talk, everybody, and thanks for just letting me look at do something other than this roof, because we must, without any question, take our practical spirituality, reincorporate it back in our lives, and put it in the healthcare system.
		I know that Medicaid and Medicare was destroying it, and it had to go somewhere.
		Money for health for profit has to be something good because it's America.
		But these people are scared.
		They're lying with strokes, and their families are in the halls, and they are scared because they don't have the kind of love that you people send to me this night.
		And that I know from being what I've been through, just that we are powerful spiritual beings.
		And I know where to go and what to do with that because I've been having to deal with it for 22 years to stay alive.
		And they need us.
		And we need to talk about it and educate it.
		You know, I'm hearing them to politics, Archie.
		Let me get on the air and I finally get to talk to somebody.
		And the Access to Medical Treatment Act.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that means a lot to you.
unidentified		It has got to be, from this bed, from where I'm looking at now, it has got to be one of the single most important pieces of legislation that we in our spiritual health body, if we don't get access to medical treatment in alternative and compatible ways, which could be just have added to this program here with me, aromatherapy, color therapy, the kinds of things that I have in this room.
		They make fun of all the crystals and everything I've got piled up in this room, art.
		And I tape them to my chest, and I have this headset on all day long, and they come in and see my charts and see what I'm looking at, and they shake their head, but I'm still here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, who cares what they think, Daniel?
unidentified		Oh, I care, because I want them to change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From that great doctors, but I mean, right now, whatever saves your life is whatever saves your life.
unidentified		They're great chemists, Art.
		But they're not doctors.
		But we have to put that back in here.
		We have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you're going to, with luck.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With luck, Daniel, maybe you're out of there, what, in a week?
unidentified		Yeah.
		If the blood, if they can watch the clots.
		But I'm out of here now.
		I mean, I'm out of here now.
		Getting to talk to everybody and tell them how much I thank you and getting to talk to Art Bell and let him be the person that tells the world that it isn't faith what placebo does.
		It's loving of ourselves and loving someone else.
		And that love changes and opens up us all.
		And we have proven it, and we can keep proving it and keep doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Listen, we've got to go.
		But Daniel, get better.
		And when you are, come see me.
unidentified		I shall.
		And Art and everybody who's been there for me.
		You make me feel better tonight than I've felt in eight days.
		And I love you very much.
		And I thank you very, very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Daniel.
		Good night.
		This one's for you.
unidentified		The trees of green, really close to the tomb.
		I see them bloom from me and you.
		And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.
		I see skies of rain, the clouds of white, the bright...
		Falling in love, we...
		Falling in love, we...
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am here.
		Top of the morning, everybody.
		We spent the last hour incredibly with Daniel Brinkley in a hospital room with four IVs circulating.
		He's not out of the woods yet.
		He is facing the possibility of any one of these clots passing through his heart and stopping at cold.
		But we've been praying for him for the last week, and obviously from where he was, he has come a long way.
		And I don't think there could be any better update than for you to hear from him yourself.
		And I'm not sure, but this may be the first time there's ever been an interview like that from a hospital bed.
unidentified		Pretty remarkable stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are going to do now, I got diverted there for about an hour, but we are going to do an Area 51 line.
		Now, listen to me very closely because I know a lot of you don't listen.
		So listen to me.
		Attention, everybody.
		What is normally my first-time caller line is now going to be an Area 51 employee singing line.
		You know that place that doesn't exist?
		I was telling somebody who happens to be in the studio with me right now, earlier tonight, that there is a VFW here in Perump, Nevada.
		And if you go up to that VFW about 4.30 in the morning, there will be a number of buses, unless because I've talked about it, they've now changed it.
		I doubt it.
		I bet they're still there.
		Every morning about 4.30, 5 o'clock or so.
		And they're sitting there waiting for all these employees to go to Area 51.
		The funny thing is, right on the side of the buses, it says Area 51.
		It actually says Area 51.
		And one of these days, I'm going to go up there with a camera, and I'm going to take some pictures of those buses for you, and I'll put it up on the net.
		So anyway, we're going to be looking for people who either retired from Area 51 and can now talk, or people who presently work at Area 51 and wish to tell us what's going on up there, because we all have deep suspicions about what's happening up there.
		So I'm just going to sort of open a line and see what happens.
		Now, we may not get any calls.
		I have no way of knowing.
		You know, when I open these lines, I have no way of knowing.
		It is, however, ringing.
		Now, whether it's ringing from somebody who actually was at Area 51, or it's ringing because somebody isn't listening to me right now saying, don't call that line, I have no way of knowing, but we will find out shortly.
		Okay.
		Dare I venture forth to my Area 51 line?
		Sure, I do.
		Let's see what we get.
		On my Area 51 line, you are on the air.
		Good evening.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, there.
unidentified		It's so good to hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's good to hear you, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to tell us from where you are calling, or would you rather keep that secret?
unidentified		I cannot tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that makes sense.
unidentified		But I can tell you who you can call me, and it is actually my first name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is your first name?
unidentified		Yes, you can call me Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Figures.
unidentified		Oh, by the way, I was not the guy who sent all the faxes about the suitcase bombs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I was not that guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not that, Steve.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Did you work or do you work at Area 51?
unidentified		I did, but more so to the point.
unidentified		I actually lived there for a time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You live there?
		Yes.
		Well, I guess that makes sense in a way.
		That a lot of people who live there either commute from Las Vegas or my little town of Prump or they actually reside there, which I bet they love because then you can't go talk to people.
unidentified		Well, actually, when you say Area 51, do you mean only Groom Lake?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		Or Pampooth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		I mean S4.
		I mean any of the interesting areas up there.
unidentified		S4.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You worked at S4?
unidentified		No, that's the area where I was living.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, S4 is where it is said they had the goodies.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Yes, I haven't been ordered to discuss that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		I've been ordered to discuss S4 tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've been ordered to discuss it?
unidentified		Yes, they were aware of your show, and it was we knew it wasn't going to be on last night, so I just went to bed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, Bob Lazar, who lives in Las Vegas.
unidentified		Very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
		I've interviewed Bob Lazar.
		And he claims that there have been any number of saucers, actual saucers, recovered saucers, back-engineered, that he was part of that, and that they were flown out of S4.
		Can you confirm his story for starters?
unidentified		Yes, it happened.
		Before he was even there, at some point.
		There was occasion.
		But they were not meant to be flown in the air.
		What you're seeing in the air is not coming from Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It isn't.
unidentified		No.
		I mean, you know, like UFOs and all that.
		None of that's coming from Area 51.
		Those things out there are broken.
		And the ones that he saw sitting there probably were in a state, various states of disrepair, in my opinion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes, and they were like, you know, where you have junk, everybody's got junk.
		But if you've got junk like that, you're not going to take it to the landfill.
		Makes sense, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you're not.
unidentified		So you've got to just kind of leave it sitting there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say junk, we should qualify that.
unidentified		Extraterrestrial junk?
unidentified		What would you call extraterrestrial?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something not of Earth origin?
unidentified		Would Earth and the parallel timeline do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet it would.
unidentified		Would that qualify as extraterrestrial?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're damn right.
		In my mind, it would.
		In other words, it certainly is in the realm of the paranormal.
		So what you're telling me is that what's up there came not from another physical place, but another rather another dimension parallel to ours.
unidentified		Yes, and no.
		It's both.
		The triangular objects were hand-me-downs that were no longer needed, and they were given to the people in the other timeline, who then turned against the people that originally gave them to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're saying you were ordered to come and say all this tonight?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Because it is yesterday was September 11th.
unidentified		It is September 11th on your time, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is still now September 11th, my time, yes.
unidentified		It is the day that the Mars Surveyor enters the orbital phase of its mission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're exactly right.
		They have fired the slowing rockets, and I understand they have done that successfully, they believe.
		And this craft will go into a polar orbit around Mars, slowly mapping the entire planet.
unidentified		It will be finished in March of the year 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what do you think they'll find?
unidentified		I already know what they're going to find.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then that makes you a doubly valuable person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What, Praydell?
unidentified		Okay.
		As they come down from the pole, at first they're going to be mapping an area that originally had a lot of water.
		So what would you see if you drained the ocean, you know, a lot of dried-up areas?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Silt, that kind of thing.
unidentified		But it's all solid rock, obviously, baked by the sun and all that.
		When you get down to latitude about 40 degrees north of the Mausern equator, you're going to see some pretty interesting things, actually.
		Like the Sidonia region?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		The Sidonia region has a counterpart region.
unidentified		And they're going to find that this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, when you speak of Sidonia, you speak of the phase on Mars and the city and the rail launcher and all that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All that stuff.
unidentified		Yeah, the rail launcher is most interesting to me.
unidentified		How?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The rail launcher?
unidentified		The rail launcher.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a gun.
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		The rail launcher is a shuttle-type vehicle that was abandoned, and it's sitting on this rail inside a fortress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A fortress.
		A fortress.
		This is a lot of the kind of stuff that David Oates talked about.
		When he reversed the speech of the NASA guys?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying all of that is true?
unidentified		Yes, but they remember all that comes from what they were thinking subconsciously, more or less.
		And it could get jumbled together.
		I'm not very familiar with that.
		I just heard it in passing at the time.
		But I don't recall that exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would your bosses want this information out?
unidentified		Because of what's about to happen next year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What, pray tell?
unidentified		There's going to be some, how should we say, major, extreme revelations next year.
		And everything's got to be in place before that happens.
		Meanwhile, pressure is building, by pressure I mean orders, to throw it all out on the table right now.
		And I'm one that don't think it's appropriate at this time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You personally don't?
unidentified		No, I mean all of it right now.
unidentified		I'm all for the 98 thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're sort of dribbling information out to get people prepared.
unidentified		Yes, but my greatest concern is they won't be prepared enough.
unidentified		And I don't, I mean, I'm troubled by what's happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You want to lay out your cards?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what's going to happen?
unidentified		You mean 1998?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, first of all, more of the same, more dribbling, as you call it for starters.
unidentified		But then, of course, you mean the main material.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Main event, yes, sir.
unidentified		Ultimately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
unidentified		Well, now that would take place on, let's see, what date would that be?
		I've got a book over here.
		It's got it all laid out.
		You don't mind me getting it here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't mind a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You go right ahead.
unidentified		Just a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We're talking to a current Area 51 employee, he says, and there is a book that lays out what's going to occur, and he's talking about 1998.
		All right.
		And then in 1998, you said you've got a date.
		Hear the pages turning.
unidentified		Yep, got it.
unidentified		July 20th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Richard Hoagland's going to like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		July 20th.
unidentified		Richard Hoagland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an important date with Richard.
unidentified		Oh, I remember now.
		Yes, it was.
		But I'm not sure that he knows about what really happened in 1986.
		I wonder if anyone, if he could call in and we could ask him if he knows what happened on that date in 1986.
		That's part of the main.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but right now, I want to know what's going to happen on July 20th, 1998.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So does everybody.
unidentified		Okay, right, right on.
unidentified		In 1998, on that date, everything is going to be revealed about what happened on July 20th, 1986 to July 26, 1986, and how that relates to what is going on right now with the Mars material.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then, if we must, let us back up.
		July of 1986.
		What occurred then, please?
unidentified		The culmination of the original plan.
		And we are currently in the 12th year of the new plan now.
		What plan?
		What plan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whose plan?
unidentified		Whose plan?
unidentified		The Supreme Commandant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Supreme Commandant?
unidentified		Sound familiar?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vaguely.
unidentified		Vaguely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Supreme Commandant.
unidentified		That should be ringing some bells, but this is no pun intended.
		Thank you.
		This is September the 11th.
		Okay.
		Anyway, the point is that do you recall any certain caller who might have called you on the Saturday morning, August 9th, during the night where you had the so-called MIB line?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I remember the MIB line, certainly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as a matter of fact, during the course of this very conversation we're having right now, I'm wondering why the men in black aren't moving in on you.
unidentified		Oh, they can't.
unidentified		Huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounds to me like the soldier in the foxhole says they'll, you know, everybody around me might die, but I'm not going to get it.
unidentified		I've been in a few foxholes myself, I'll tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's that kind of psychology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean they can't get to you?
unidentified		Because I tell them what to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're that high in the food chain.
unidentified		Well, unfortunately, it is a food chain, yes.
		Unfortunately for me, I occasionally learn the hard way.
		Since I last thought, I did call you on that morning.
		I don't know if you recall or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, these beings, are they as we are or are they different?
		Do they look to be extraterrestrial in origin even though they're...
		Well, you said they're extra-dimensional, not extraterrestrial.
		So do they appear to be extraterrestrial or do they appear exactly as we do in form?
unidentified		Okay, this is hard to explain, but there's two levels.
		One level is if you knew what to look for, yeah, you could tell the difference easily.
		But if you say, oh, well, you know, so-and-so just passed them, you'd never notice it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they could be wandering around in our streets now, ETs, and we could.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I see.
unidentified		Well, you know, a few more than it used to be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Extra dimensionals.
unidentified		Yeah, but see, if you could grill one of them, let's say you had a best case scenario, you had them hypnotized, sodium pentathol, reverse speech, everything, and you got everything out of them, you would never find out who was giving them the orders.
		It's not me, by the way.
		Because they're getting programmed from a planet in this timeline in space.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why are you revealing all of this now?
unidentified		Because of the amount of material that's going to be revealed next year would be unintelligible unless this was here for us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lay it out first.
unidentified		Right.
		In other words, I could talk for 10 hours and we would have chipped at the edge of the iceberg.
		That's just an example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the purpose then of Area 51?
unidentified		Now, it's got different purposes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, S4 or whatever you want to call it.
		In other words, what is the main chief reason?
		Yeah.
unidentified		Now or in the past or both?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		All.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		In the beginning, it was simply to develop new weapons.
		America needed new weapons to counter the Soviet threat.
		Right.
		The reason...
		You holding on to your seat for this one?
		I don't think anybody knows this one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay, everybody in the Pentagon better hold on to their seat for this, and they're going to be hopping mad.
		The people from a planet called Lanulos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lanulos?
unidentified		I think you heard that before, I guess.
		They came here after World War II and they told the Soviets, you better look out, the Americans are coming after you.
		Then they come to the Americans and tell them, you better look out, the Soviets are coming after you.
		Then they go to the Soviets and tell them, here's the kind of missiles you're going to need.
		And then they go to the Americans and say, you better get ready.
		Here they come.
		Here are the kind of missiles you're going to need.
		We'll give you the advice on what to build with your own technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like they were promoting the idea of war.
unidentified		Oh, no.
		They knew the outcome.
		You know, you can use primitive computer projections now to get some idea of some things.
		And they used computer projections of an advanced kind to determine the best possible outcome.
		And they controlled a situation where you'd have a standoff.
		They needed desperately to have a Cold War standoff for 40 years.
		That was the plan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		To duplicate a precise same event that happened three times 19.5 centuries earlier on Atlantis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Atlantis.
unidentified		Atlantis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Atlantis that was destroyed by two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because there was no intervention or what?
unidentified		Oh, no, there could not be any intervention then.
		Because there was no one in space.
		No one had traveled.
		Oh, yes, this would be an appropriate time to explain something.
		No, there is no intelligent life that evolved anywhere in the universe except on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've thought that myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And even wondered about this planet.
unidentified		Yeah, me too.
		Especially in the last 50 years.
		And in a parallel universe, ditto.
		In other words, for every parallel dimension, I prefer a timeline.
		You have only Earth evolving intelligent life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I have only about a minute left.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So quickly sum up or say whatever you would like to say to everybody out there about where you work.
unidentified		Area 51's main purpose is to basically build weapons, but it was taken over in 1986.
		It was taken over by the people from Lanulos.
		And when they took it over, that's when I came in there.
		I was put in there to supervise what was going on at lower levels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have no way of knowing whether one word of what you have said is true, but you said it well.
unidentified		Well, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		And you take care.
		There's our first Area 51 calling.
		The planet Minunos or whatever it was.
		What do you think?
		They're in charge since 86.
		Reagan said a bunch of stuff about that.
		Remember?
		Put a break here at the bottom of the hour.
		We'll be right back from the high desert.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		Well, I think it's time to get ready To realize just what I have found I have been only there of what I am It's all clear to me now Hey!
		If you've missed any part of tonight's program and you'd like to have a copy on tape, dial call free 1-800-917-4278.
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		From the Kingdom of Nigh, Coast to Coast AM continues with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I said no future employees of Area 51, but this guy tripped me up.
		He's on the line now, and I can tell you're like in a vehicle of some kind.
unidentified		Yes, I'm currently I'm driving a truck right now because I'm making a historical study of life in the 20th century, and there's really no better way to study it than getting out there and seeing it and experiencing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're sort of slumming in the 20th, huh?
unidentified		There you go.
		Actually, I'm from the 21st century, or the 21st century, the year 2072, and I worked at Area 51, or I guess you would say I will work at Area 51, which at that time is the nation's capital.
		There's a series of catastrophes that will occur, and I don't want to create a paradox by saying too much, but some events occur around the turn of the century in the eastern part of the country.
		Things happen where the government of the United States has to relocate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, bear in mind that you're on the air right now in Washington, D.C. on WWRC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're all listening to you.
unidentified		Yes, that's why I have to be very careful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please be very careful.
		Yes.
		So you're saying around the turn of the century, around 2000, something is going to happen.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't want to get into any more on that, but I worked as an aide for the Office of the President at Area 51.
		And in that time, in 2072, the reason Area 51 was picked to be the capital of the United States, and for that matter, basically a one-world government is set up with the United States leading that effort.
		Oh, good.
		There is, by that time, there will be no question of life throughout the universe.
		In fact, there will be several races of aliens living with us.
		I can't get into much more detail than that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you a question.
		How far can you go?
		We all know what a paradox is.
		You know, going back and killing your father, if time travel were possible, would suddenly negate you, at least in one timeline.
		How far can you go in telling us things without creating a paradox, something that will shift what otherwise would occur in a timeline?
unidentified		Well, I can't actually alter events.
unidentified		For example, if I come back now and I know if I invest in a certain thing in the stock market and become a huge multi-millionaire, when that individual who I am now didn't, according to my current history.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You would have changed things radically.
unidentified		Right.
		And so I have to be very careful.
		And now, speaking in general terms like I'm doing to you over the air, so then we can safely assume Bill Gates is not a time traveler?
		Bill Gates is not a time traveler.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Bill Gates is Bill Gates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He got his money honestly in this timeline.
unidentified		Yes, he honestly got it in this timeline, though there's some interesting things about Bill Gates.
unidentified		Without going into detail, expect Bill Gates to enter politics before too long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wouldn't surprise me.
unidentified		Yeah, I figured it was...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, is that something that could potentially...
unidentified		Well, I am, but here's the beauty of it.
		When I'm on the phone with you talking, it's subjective.
		It's people's opinion.
		So what I really say is real subjective.
		Some people might believe it, some people won't.
		So I'm fairly safe in making general statements like that because probably a lot of people aren't going to believe it anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And so let me ask you this.
		Is there something minor but very specific that you can give us that's going to happen in the near-term future that we can watch for and say, aha, the guy from 2072 called it?
unidentified		Yeah, we're going to have probably about March of this coming winter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Southern California and Arizona are going to suffer severe flooding as a result of the El Niño, this building.
unidentified		And in 1999, the winter of 1999, there's going to be a major devastating earthquake in Southern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, that was the winter of 99?
unidentified		The winter of 1999.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How big will it be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know?
unidentified		From the history books I've read, it was about an 8.9 on the Richter scale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
unidentified		But I'm not, you know, I can't give out numbers because we really don't know.
unidentified		There was just estimate numbers of deaths and injuries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you get here using a physical time machine or did you come through some sort of wormhole?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, by what means did you come to this time and why?
unidentified		Okay, there are things around the planet that people now are calling vortexes or vortices, such as in Sedona and a few places in California.
unidentified		By the year 2055, there's been a major breakthrough explaining these forces, and mankind has learned how to use those for time travel, both going forward and going past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now that is very interesting because I interviewed a very well-respected physicist named Michio Kaku not long ago who said that is exactly the way we would learn to travel in time.
unidentified		Yes, and it works out very well.
		And you don't have to have the equipment at your destination.
		Now, when I left in 2072, there's equipment set up at these vortices in Sedona and other places around the world.
		Now, when I go through that and come to this time, I just pop out in the middle of the desert in the case of Sedona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've always wondered about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you able to be sure that you don't pop here inside a mountain or a building or concrete or something awful like that?
unidentified		Well, because we can go back to maps of the 20th century, and actually even earlier than that, we've got them archived on computer disks.
unidentified		And we know exactly where we can and cannot pop out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So at least I know we still use computers, huh?
unidentified		We do use computers, so it'll blow your mind the media that we'll be using at that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it wouldn't blow my mind at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You buy a computer today, and it's out of date now in about three or four months in.
unidentified		Virtual reality is only the beginning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's going to be an interesting time, and there's going to be a gigantic event around the turn of the century, a serious event.
unidentified		Yeah, the turn of the century is going to be rough, but mankind makes it through it.
unidentified		We do have some assistance from, how shall I say, elsewhere?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Elsewhere, others?
unidentified		Yes.
		And after that event, things like racism, those kind of issues will no longer be around because not only will we have to learn to live with people of different color, we're going to have to learn to live with beings who are not human.
		And this event, these series of events that occur around the turn of the century, is kind of a purging or a cleansing event.
		And the people that make it through that become a better species of people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to stay and go through this period with us, or when things get rough, are you going to get going?
unidentified		I've got to be honest with you, Art.
		I'm out of here.
		I'm going to be a chicken and run.
		I'm not going to stay and go through that with you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would it be possible for somebody like myself, for example, who wants to avoid what's coming, to get a ticket to ride, so to speak, with you?
unidentified		No, because there again, then you come up with a paradox issue.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Paradox.
unidentified		You have a certain destiny you're meant to fulfill, and if you leave prematurely, that creates the paradox.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		But there are certain people that can leave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me see if I can ask this.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know offhand whether I make it?
unidentified		I can't answer that because that might alter the way you live your life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
		All right.
		Well, you've been a very, very interesting caller, and I hope you will call again.
unidentified		I will do so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Take care.
		There is a future Area 51 employer, present employee, present time traveler.
		I don't know.
unidentified		You sounded pretty good, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to give him a good seven or eight, maybe even better than an eight on a scale of ten.
		What do you think?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Yes, hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the first thing you've got to do when you get on the air.
unidentified		Got it, got it, got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		Boyden Beach, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Glad to have you.
		Is this Art?
		It is.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry, Art.
		No, I was just listening.
		I just got on my computer, and I'm listening to your show right now through the computer.
		Okay.
		And you guys are talking about Area 51.
		I grew up in Morocco.
		I don't know if you ever heard of in Morocco, North Africa.
		And I spent 16 years over there with my parents.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to North Africa next month.
unidentified		Egypt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Right.
		I saw that on your webpage.
		But anyway, there's a place called Kenyatra, which was a U.S. Navy base.
		And at the time, from 1961 until 1970, it was a United States Navy base.
		But after that, because Congress discovered that this base was there, they decided to shut it down.
		And the United States government never did.
		They kept it going, and basically what they did, they just turned it over to the Royal Air Force.
		But the base in Kenyatra had a bunch of satellite dishes.
		And I'm talking like, if you saw the movie Contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, I love that movie.
unidentified		You're talking about dishes that were lined up for probably, I would probably say about 30 dishes, and that's in Morocco-Kinitra.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when you do that, what you saw in Contact was accurate.
		In other words, you can put up a field of dishes, and each one gives you about a 3 dB gain, and it creates a narrower beam width.
		So you can listen to more distant, weaker signals.
		That's how it works.
		And Contact was accurate in that regard.
unidentified		Okay.
		But not only was there about 30 dishes in Kenitra, there's another town which is like a little village.
		And it was probably about 60 miles away from Kenitra.
		Kenitra is north of Rabat, Morocco.
		It's called City Yaya, and they had another 30 dishes there.
		Now, why would the United States government or the United States Navy have all these dishes?
		They did at one point.
		My father was telling me back in 1970 during the Apollo missions that these dishes relayed the Apollo missions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that would be definitely one use.
unidentified		That's one use, but what's the other use?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listening.
unidentified		Listening to dishes in Morocco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listening for whatever might be out there, just as they did in contact.
		And as SETI now does.
		You remember in Kondak they were using the one at Arecibo.
unidentified		Right, I remember that.
unidentified		But the base right now, it's actually still in operation under the Moroccan government, but there are Americans there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so what is it you're telling us that our American government is still in Morocco doing something that relates to deep space?
unidentified		To deep space.
		And my father's retired now, but he's telling me this, and I do know that because I was talking to, I don't know if you remember at the time, it was Alexander Haig.
		He was the Supreme Commander of NATO back in 1981, if I'm correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the, I'm in charge now at the White House, Alexander Haig, right?
unidentified		Yes, that's the guy.
		And he was talking about, because they had closed the base back in 1978, and he was talking to my father and asking him to go back to Kenitra and see if we, you know, whatever, you know, I really am not sure, and I guess I'm not privy to that conversation,
		but it was very interesting, and I was thinking of Area 51 being something so secretive, and Congress did not know about the base that is still run by the American military in North Africa, Morocco.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're raising a very good point.
		Thank you very much for a call.
		In other words, it may well be that Area 51, the one adjacent to me, just over the mountain from me, is not the only place that we're doing this sort of thing.
		And North Africa would be a really spiffy place when you think about it to do something very secret.
		Because there are large open areas that could be closed off easily.
		And there wouldn't be a whole lot of tourist travel in those areas.
		Very interesting point.
		That our government may have secret things going on around the world, not just here.
		Fascinating.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Boris, and I'm in Las Vegas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Las Vegas?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just over the hill.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I'm a first-time caller, and I finally got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sound like you're out of breath.
unidentified		Yeah, yes.
unidentified		I figured out how to get through by clues Mr. Fidget gave me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, you're through, so what's on your mind?
unidentified		Oh, well, actually, I guess I guess the Mars Pathfinder mission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, Pathfinder has just, I guess, or is just now going into orbit around the world.
unidentified		That's the global observer.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mars Observer.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm making sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry, you're talking about Pathfinder, the little bug that runs around up there.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what is it you have to say about it?
unidentified		Well, yeah, I've been doing some of my own investigation by basically downloading the whole Mars Pathfinder site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you know, Richard Hoagland has seen everything from gyroscopes to bazookas to 105 millimeter cannons to all kinds of things on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you seen?
unidentified		Well, I've definitely seen a lot of pyramidal-shaped things.
unidentified		And looking at the pictures Richard Hoagland has put on his website, I found some other similar pictures to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're essentially backing up what Richard says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He thinks we've landed right in the middle of a debris field, essentially, of a previous civilization.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's right.
unidentified		Yeah, it looks like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, there are a lot of people who think that we are Martians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That the Martians, don't laugh, when the Martians, on Mars, when their atmosphere was destroyed, or potentially was about to be destroyed, and there was once one there with water on Mars, and water means life, that somehow somebody or something got off planet and, in effect, seeded Earth.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, that.
unidentified		Well, I sort of believe in multiple timelines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear my time caller a minute ago?
unidentified		Yes, I heard your time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And on a scale of 10, what did you think of his credibility?
unidentified		Somehow 6 comes into my mind.
unidentified		I don't know why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only a six?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought he was pretty good.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had worse, believe me.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much for the call from Las Vegas.
		Not a lot of time before the top of the hour.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		No, you're not.
		That person just missed it.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is C.T. in San Mateo, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I think it's preposterous for that time traveler to presume that Earthlings would be able to get along with people from other planets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When they can't even get along with different racial groups and ethnic and religious groups on planet Earth now.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you forgot one important thing.
		He said there was going to be some event that would so change human beings that they would suddenly be able to get along with others.
		I can't imagine what that would be.
unidentified		I can't imagine the enormity of an event like that.
unidentified		And I'm from the school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nobody cooperated when Rodney King asked that we all get along.
unidentified		I'm from the school that believes that the races that we have here on this planet are from other planets, and we don't get along.
unidentified		So that's my assumption for tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Wait a minute.
		Where are you calling from, by the way?
unidentified		Sam Mateo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		You said that.
		I always thought that if a saucer came down, little green guys got off and started down the ramp.
		Before they got to the bottom of the ramp, they would be satisfied.
		So full of lead.
		So full of lead, they wouldn't be able to walk.
unidentified		I can't see why they would want to come Here.
unidentified		I mean, with people with this technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you would look down at the present relationship between the races and so forth on Earth and say, I'd try.
		Let's skip this one, folks.
		On to the next planet that is green.
unidentified		Hey, thanks, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		That's it.
		We're going to break here at the top of the hour, see what's new in the world.
		I suspect not very much.
		There's not much new under the sun these days, is there?
		And we will continue.
		Don't forget, my first-time caller line is not that tonight.
		It is an Area 51 employee sing song line at 702-727-1222.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and I'm glad to be here.
		If you missed the first hour, Danion Brinkley called from his hospital bed.
		We talked to him for an hour, whole hour, and he is doing better all the time.
		A little groggy, but as you might expect under the conditions, but he's doing better, and all things going well, he may be out of the hospital in another week.
		So we did that in the first hour.
		Second hour, we began taking Area 51 calls.
		I didn't do it last night, so I'm doing it tonight.
		If you're an Area 51 employee, past or present, we even have one in the future, you're welcome to call our special line, which is Area Code 702-727-1222.
		And another person I would love to hear from briefly is Stan Deo in Perth, Australia.
		Stan, if you're listening this morning in Australia, call me and let's get an update on this El Nino business.
		You know, there's so much on it now, and it appears to be ever-increasing.
		So I'd like to get your look at the latest map, or have you tell us about the latest map and what you're seeing.
		Stan, as you know, told us this was coming many months before the climatologist decided it was coming.
		So he's a good guy to listen to in that respect.
		Incidentally, I've got a mysterious visitor in my studio.
		And if anybody out there can guess who it is before the show ends, you'll win some sort of cheap price.
		Now, how are you going to guess?
		Well, you can actually see him on the studio cam.
		We've got a studio cam, you know.
		And every now and then it clicks a picture and sends it to the web.
		So you might get a look if you do try and guess who it is.
		A mysterious, I rarely, rarely have visitors ever in the studio, as you know.
		So if you can guess who it is, well, you probably don't win anything except my eternal respect for having guessed the impossible.
		Easy to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		I'm glad you got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Ohio, Yellow Springs, Ohio.
unidentified		First of all, I was shocked when you let the first Area 51 guy get away, but he said...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I talked to the guy for almost half an hour.
unidentified		Oh, is that right?
		Yeah.
		It seemed so short.
		Well, he said something about Lulu Nos and that Reagan had mentioned this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 86 would have been.
		No, I said that.
		Do you remember Ronald Reagan when he was in office?
		Several times he said if we had some sort of common enemy from space, for example, that we as a planet would get together to fight this common enemy.
		He said that a number of times, and it was about 1986.
unidentified		But he didn't mention Luinus who was.
unidentified		Okay, and the other thing, the 2072 caller, he said just before he signed off that certain people would be allowed to leave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but apparently I'm not one of them.
unidentified		Well, yeah, I know, but it'd be interesting to know who they are.
unidentified		I mean, maybe they're 144,000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll ask him next time.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Thanks, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Take care.
		Dare we go back on my Area 51 line?
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, you got some less incredible people talking to you earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got some what?
unidentified		Less incredible people talking to you earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you one of them?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		I'll tell you what, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are not an Area 51 employee?
unidentified		Here's how you find out.
		Ask them how they pay for their meals.
		Ask them what color the second door is to go in.
		And ask them how they get there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are an Area 51 employee.
unidentified		Well, that remains to be seen.
		Just ask them those three questions.
		They're rather unique.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, roll over those again.
		How they pay for the meals is one, right?
		The color of the second door?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The trouble is that I'm not going to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how am I going to know?
unidentified		I'll tell you off the air if you like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't I can't do it off the air.
		Okay.
		Alright, what was the third thing?
		It was the color of the first and second door.
		Second door.
		And what else?
unidentified		How they pay for their meals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got those too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what else?
unidentified		How they get there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, how they get there?
		Well, I know one way they get there.
		They get there by bus.
		Some fly.
		Right?
unidentified		Also ask them what they do with the trash.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They probably drop it down a big hole where it enters our water table and we drink it.
		You are an Area 51 employee, aren't you?
		Come on, own up to it.
unidentified		I'm afraid I can't do that.
unidentified		Have a good evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you.
		Yeah, he was a real McCoy, you could tell.
		Well, all right, future Area 51 employees, I now have three critical questions to which I don't have the real answers, or you could lie your tail ends off to me and I wouldn't know.
		You to the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello?
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Got it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you're actually on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Des Moines, Iowa.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Des Moines, Iowa.
		All right.
		The nation's heartland.
unidentified		There you go, right in the middle of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think of these guys so far?
unidentified		Pretty far out.
unidentified		But I have some questions regarding a previous show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		It was the one about us never going to the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The debate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The great debate.
unidentified		Who was talking about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who do you suppose you're talking about?
		I'm the only one.
		Well, actually, I do have someone else here, but I'm normally the only one here.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'm the only one you could talk to.
unidentified		the debate between collier and hoagland collier Well, I thought his name was James, and the other guy said he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		James Collier and Richard Hoagland.
unidentified		Hoagland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		H-O-A-G-L-A-N-D.
		Hoagland.
unidentified		Okay, well Hoagland was the man that was supposedly the co-announcer as we landed on the moon.
unidentified		Is that correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He worked for Walter Cronkite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		And he was, yeah, right.
		He was the co-announcer.
		Is that correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he was a science advisor to Walter Cronkite.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he was right there.
unidentified		Well, let me tell you what happened to me.
		I was living in Southern California about the time we landed on the moon there.
		And I was watching it pretty closely.
		And I come home from work one day, and I was watching the TV, and I thought we'd already landed because of the mock-up that they had.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know the whole thing wasn't done in Burbank right there by you?
unidentified		Well, to tell you the truth, I believe it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what happened.
		Oh, I see.
		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		I'll tell you what happened.
		So they get around to the guy, to the modular going down the moon and the man getting out one small step for man and all that garbage, right?
		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't garbage.
unidentified		Well, it is, in my opinion, because the camera came down and the camera started to pan to the left.
unidentified		And all of a sudden, there's this rock laying there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I didn't listen to the whole program, and I didn't hear if this was mentioned or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the matter with there being a rock on the moon?
unidentified		Okay, well, on this rock was a precisely carved Roman numeral.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, that I missed.
unidentified		Okay, now, I don't know if that was on the program or not, but I was just, I was slabbergasted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course I would be too.
unidentified		Did I save that videotape?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		In 1960.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		I don't even think VCRs were out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		You know, at least I didn't have one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, I understand.
unidentified		So the two announcers were talking, right?
unidentified		And the other announcer says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look at that Roman numeral.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look at it.
unidentified		No, he says, what is that rock?
		And then the screen went blank.
		It went off the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, here's something for you to contemplate.
		Let's just say for the sake of argument, the whole thing was done on a sound stage, all right?
		A video stage?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would they put something stupid like a rock with a Roman numeral on it if they were trying to fake the whole thing?
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, exactly?
unidentified		Why would they?
unidentified		They wouldn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're saying they did.
unidentified		But I'm saying it was there.
		Well, I mean, I know what I've seen, okay?
		You know, I mean, I'm watching the guy get down out of the landing craft, one small step for man.
		It pans over.
		There's a rock with a Roman numeral on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And one giant conspiracy for mankind, right?
unidentified		And one giant conspiracy for mankind.
		But the number on the rock, and it was just a flash, you know, and I think it was either a 13 or a 17.
		I can't remember what.
		I don't know if there's any significance to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
unidentified		But this has bugged me for a while ever since it happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, next time I get Richard Hoagland on, I will ask him specifically about that, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I've got another one for you real quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, because we're about out of time.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		The Men in Black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		When I was in service in 1968, I was stationed at Fort Mead, Maryland.
unidentified		It's got a very large forest area in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And one Sunday morning, a guy came up with a new car at Little Austin, Healy Sprite, and he grabbed me and a partner, and we're going to go out and we're going to take a ride in it.
		And I set up on the back, you know, looking out over the windshield.
		We took a ride down here in the forest.
		We went for quite a ways.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Got to hurry.
unidentified		I asked him if he'd told the guy, well, we better turn around and go back.
		And as they hung the left and started to go down this road, we come into a clearing.
		And what we ran into was there was right in the middle of this clearing was a triangular shape, kind of a glass-looking object.
		It's kind of a laser shooting up just above the tree line.
		And I was sitting on the back, and I could see it all.
		And this guy came down in the clearing, he made a U-turn real quick, kind of did a fishtail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This would be our MIB, I presume.
unidentified		No, the guy that I was riding with.
		And as we made this fishtail, we could see three people kind of along the perimeter there.
		I would reach it into the side of their coat pockets, like reaching for a gun and stuff.
		And it never really dawned on me until recently that I heard this man in black, but all those guys were in black.
		And that was the weirdest light I've ever seen in my life.
		And this is like in 1968.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're lucky to be alive to tell a story now.
unidentified		Probably.
unidentified		But I was really, what's really got me is I was just wondering if you've got any listeners anywhere that's ever seen that rock or seen anything or heard anything about it, because that's blown my mind ever since I've seen it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, all those lumpy things you see out in the desert?
unidentified		Yeah?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		People like you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got to go, sir.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		And by the way, I want to make an announcement.
		I've got a big announcement.
		I forgot to make it.
		Tomorrow night, scheduled is probably the real thing.
		James von Prague, I talked to Daniel extensively about James von Prague, and I know a lot of you have been waiting for him.
		He'll be here tomorrow night at the beginning of the show.
		And now I've got a really big announcement.
		Next week, on Friday night, Saturday morning the 19th.
		This one you've been waiting for.
		Gordon Michael Scallion is going to be here.
		And I am going to read you.
		Let me see, how much can I read you of what he sent me?
		A little bit, anyway.
		All right?
		I'll read you a little bit of what Gordon.
		Gordon has essentially been underground for a year.
		And there's a reason for that.
		It's basically his health.
		He'll be here in the first hour.
		And we'll see how long he can spend.
		But boy, does he have news for you.
		Dear Art, Gordon writes, you will find a copy of my new book, Notes from the Cosmos, A Futurist Insight into the World of Dream Prophecy and Intuition.
		I think you'll find the chapter on the awakening to be the most interesting and a subject that both you and I have discussed with regard to the similarities in our viewpoints.
		I've appreciated your ongoing support of my work and your desire to have me appear on your show.
		Again, during the past year, I've been trying to restore my vitality and complete my book prior to the great changes that I see on the doorstep here in just a few months.
		I now feel I have something of value to share with your listeners dealing with the activities that are now going on in Montserrat as well as the phenomenal ocean temperature rise globally.
		Part of me is totally amazed the world is not focusing on the real cause of the current El Niño because in my opinion it is much more than El Niño.
		In my opinion, we are very close to global cataclysmic events.
		While some might say that the current weather changes are indeed that, I see these as only precursors to a shift in the magnetic field of the Earth as well as disruption of the tectonic plate system.
		Gordon Michael Scallion, the 19th or 20th, depending on your time zone.
		And I know a lot of you have been waiting for that, so I just booked him yesterday.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, turn off thy radio, please.
unidentified		It's on its way down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alaska, where?
unidentified		Well, I'm in Palmer now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Palmer.
		All right.
		Well, you know, I was just in Anchorage.
unidentified		Yeah, I know you were.
unidentified		Were you born before 1953?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was born June 17th, 1945, on Camp Lejeune in North Carolina.
unidentified		Okay.
		The reason I ask is I grew up in Colorado.
		My father worked for a packaging corporation that took recycled paper and made boxes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Way back then?
unidentified		Way back then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know we were recycled that long.
unidentified		We recycled years and years ago.
		People don't realize that we recycled.
		Anyway, do you know what Ent is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be E-Enti?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Ent is a military base buried in the mountains in Colorado.
unidentified		And it's a nuclear safe, you know, one of those dug way deep in the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		In, I'm not sure, probably.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A hardened site.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		In 1960, early 60s, maybe 61, 62, I was a young boy, 9, 10 years old, and my dad came home from work with a book on flying saucers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Ant had brought a bunch of paper to be destroyed because they didn't want it out in the public's hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And your dad brought it home?
unidentified		And my dad brought one home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not supposed to do that, you know.
unidentified		And I thumbmed through this thing for months, fascinated at the hundreds and hundreds of official spaceship reports.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what have you done with all of this documentation?
unidentified		You know, I don't know what happened to the book.
		I'm sure that my brother looked through it.
		I don't know what my dad did with the book.
		And your show has just brought this book back to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I sure would like to lay my hands on it.
unidentified		I'm telling you, it would be an amazing piece of paper.
unidentified		And I don't know that, you know, if anybody else has.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is your dad still alive?
unidentified		My dad is still alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you go to him and ask him?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're dog on right.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if he still has that book, you and I need to talk privately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think you could arrange that?
unidentified		I will call him and ask him if...
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you, my friend.
		You take care.
		Ooh, I'd like to lay my hands on that.
		Wouldn't that be neat?
		We're going to take a break here at the bottom of the hour once again.
		Come back and do I have no idea what.
		Don't touch that dog.
unidentified		The devil went down to Georgia.
		He was looking for a soul to steal.
		He was in a bind, but he was way behind and he was willing to make a deal.
		When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot, and the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, Boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I better fiddle a gold against your soul because I think I'm better than you.
		My name's Johnny and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet you're going to regret because I'm the best as ever been.
		Johnny, you're awesome, you're a boy, and play a fiddle hard.
		Come hell, go to school.
		If you've missed any part of tonight's program and you'd like to have a copy on tape, dial toll free 1-800-917-4278.
		That number is 1-800-917-4278.
		That number is 1-800-917-4278.
		And now, back to the best of Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Remember now, I have one line set aside only for Area 51 employees.
		And by the way, I don't know about the earlier ones.
		They were pretty good, but this last guy, I'll bet you, I'll bet you he was a real thing.
		That's just my own call.
		At any rate, if you're an Area 51 employee, past or present, and wish to sing and tell us what it's all about, this area just over the hill from me, I've got one line set aside for only that, area code 702-727-1222.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Well, a pleasant morning to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oklahoma, huh?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		All right.
		I've got something for your consideration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		In the past, you have shared with us listeners, and you and I discussed this one over the year, if some really big catastrophe should happen, say, coming in from outer space.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		If you'd do this Paul Harvey and make a travel mic and go out and get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely would.
		As a matter of fact, I should tell you that I now have the microphone to do that.
		I've got a permanent outside microphone that I'm about to mount.
		It was sent to me by some very nice listener, a very professional outfit.
		But yes, in other words, if an asteroid was coming in or something, sure.
		What the hell?
		I'd go outside, take the microphone, and talk that sucker in.
		Why not?
unidentified		Well, here's something for you to consider.
unidentified		Next, Wednesday night, Thursday morning, the moon is going to call Saturn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So far, that's not catastrophic.
unidentified		No, no, no, no.
		Check your system out.
		It is quite an impressive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you suggest that I would go out.
		Oh, how impressive.
		Those Saturn days.
		I mean, you've got to have a good telescope to see that.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		You can see it through binoculars.
		It doesn't.
		Now, when the moon occults a star, the star winks out.
		I mean, it just takes a lot of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure that's dramatic enough to justify going outside and, you know.
unidentified		Well, take a look at it anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Might be good practice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, if we had a big rock, say about six miles wide, bearing down on us, now you're talking good reason for a remote end of the world broadcast.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
unidentified		What the Jesus does a tune-up?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's it tune up?
		All right, well, I'll mull that over in my mind.
		Thank you.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'm calling from Southern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'm happy to hear that Daniel's doing better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, tentatively, better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That's good to hear.
		We've heard so much tonight about the people that have been trying to uncover the truth about the FO scenario, and I was wondering if it would be possible for you to get somebody from the other side.
		Somebody maybe somebody who teams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somebody who wants to keep it secret?
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tried that.
		I did a men in black night.
		You know, I mean, they would be in that category, right?
unidentified		I didn't hear the whole show.
unidentified		Did anybody call in on that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I've got all kinds of men in black.
		And you know what I've got in front of me here?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a story.
		Now, I have no way of knowing if it's true.
		It comes from the News Gateway, a News Gateway article.
		Breaking news, it says, this just in, a reporter friend who works for a local newspaper just called and told me that two men in black have been captured after breaking and entering the house of a local ufologist tonight.
		Apparently, a neighbor saw the man approach the house and called police.
		Police arrived quickly.
		The two men were still inside.
		Needless to say, the police captured them and arrested them.
		When the ufologist returned home and was told the story, he, of course, immediately realized it was a case of MIBs attempting to find out what he knows.
		And of course, he called the local police and explained all this and tried to encourage them to investigate these two men fully.
		But immediately the conspiracy went into full alert and they began to create a cover story.
		You know how that works.
		And they did background checks and found both men, it turns out, are experienced jewel thieves and both have police records.
		They were trying to get the jewels from the house of the well-to-do ufologist and his wife.
		But the ufologist was not to be fooled.
		And how shrewd they can be explained to the police is the obvious cover story.
		And these were MIBs.
		And this was possibly one of the biggest breaks in UFO history.
		But, as you might imagine, even though the two MIBs are still in the slammer, the cover story is working.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		That's interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who would you suggest I would have on?
unidentified		Well, obviously the person that we'd most want to talk to would not come forward with their name.
unidentified		So it would seem like it would have to be somebody that wanted to speak anonymously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've got somebody like that who, as a matter of fact, thank you very much.
		There's this guy who claimed that he was inside Area 51, a worker in Area 51, and he sent me several messages over a period of about three days And then stopped.
		And I'm waiting to hear from him.
		I don't know why he stopped.
		We did post his letter on the internet.
		Now, that might have scared him off.
		I didn't know that was going to be posted.
		Apparently, he sent or somebody sent a copy of that letter to Keith.
		It certainly was not me.
		And Keith posted it.
		Now, maybe that scared him off.
		I don't know.
		But he has now disappeared.
		Hopefully, he didn't come to any harm.
		But we will have that man on the air if he ever gets in touch with me for real.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, my name's Rich.
unidentified		I'm from Flagstaff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hey, congratulations on your bookseller thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm kind of proud of that.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm sure.
		I just wanted to call because I'm a dream traveler.
		I've been one for a few years.
		And I had this dream a couple years ago that listening to Richard C. Oglin and you talking kind of tripped me out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'll do it, all right.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it a regular dream or a nightmare?
unidentified		No, it was actually really, really cool.
unidentified		Some dreams, you know, are just, they aren't all that powerful, but this one wasn't lucid, but it felt like I was out of my body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had several out-of-body experiences myself listening to Richard.
unidentified		Yeah, definitely, definitely.
unidentified		Yeah, listening to you guys is always really nice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've actually felt myself float to the ceiling and look down.
		And it was one of those frustrating moments with Richard when you're trying to ask a second-level question and he's not giving you a second-level answer.
		Just a first-level answer.
unidentified		And he keeps going and going and going.
		Well, my dream started.
		I was in my bed and I got pulled out of my body by aliens, actually.
		And they kind of looked like E.T., which is kind of weird.
		They were short and they had long necks and the kind of E.T. shaped head.
		And this is the weird part.
		They took me to this planet that they said was where the asteroid belt is now, beyond Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Xenon.
unidentified		Yeah.
		They said that they took me there and they took me back in the past.
		And there were all these cities all over the place.
		And they were showing me, it was really overwhelming because they gave me all this history and stuff.
		And of course, I don't remember any of that, because it was information overload.
		But they gave me all this information and showed me their history and all this stuff.
		And they told me that there was life on Mars and on this planet.
		And that there was a war between these two planets.
		And they had developed this technology and all this stuff.
		And I guess the people on Mars were really, really aggressive.
		And the only reason that the people on this other planet had to develop any weapons at all was to defend themselves against these people on Mars.
		And well, the people on Mars developed something that could actually blow up a planet.
		And I guess so.
		And it escalated and escalated and kaboom, planet gone.
		And I'm not exactly sure what happened to Mars, but obviously something.
		Something bad.
		And the people that some people got away from both planets and supposedly came here.
		And they didn't really tell me what happened then.
		But then I was just kind of sitting there on the planet going, well, okay, how do I get back to my place?
		You know, I was kind of in the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the part that I have always worried about, getting back.
unidentified		Yeah, and I was a little worried.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not only were you in another place, but you were in another time.
unidentified		Another time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And Albert Taylor the other day warned about that.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He said, that's hard.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And I was a little worried.
		And they said, well, don't worry.
		They told me to look at these three stars and to stare at them and to focus all my energy on them.
		And of course, I don't remember what star they are.
		But I did that, and after a few minutes, Yeah.
		Yeah, for the three stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you got home.
unidentified		Yeah, well, what happened was when I focused on these three stars, this kind of gateway opened, and it was kind of like a wormhole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like an...
unidentified		Yeah, very much so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And back you came.
		All right, I got to run.
		We're out of time.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a 113.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
		You play a pretty good fitball.
		I've got to give the table with you.
		I've got a fiddle with the counter.
		My name's Johnny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Flint, Michigan.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Flint.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You brought up the subject earlier about the suitcase bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, a one-kiloton suitcase bomb.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nuke.
unidentified		The only possible use I could think that any moron would have for that, other than terrorism, is tearing it apart so they could make more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I kind of, the only thing I could come up with was to start it going, you know, and then sort of play a personal game of chicken and see if you could press a cancel button, you know, like two or three seconds before it was going to go.
unidentified		I heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But with my luck, you know, the phone would ring or something.
		Divert my attention.
		Goodbye, Parump.
		So what was that you were saying about morons now?
		Other uses?
unidentified		The only possible use I could think other than terrorism is to advance your terroristic aim, whether that may be by actually taking the thing apart to make more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
		To replicate it.
		Yes, I suppose there would be that.
		But I would think that would be a nervous thing, too.
		You know?
		Cutting wires and disassembling a nuclear device.
unidentified		There's a lot of small countries who really don't have a nuclear program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you could well, there's a profit motive.
		Now, you could turn around and resell it to some small country somewhere.
		Peru, for example, they'd probably like to have a nuke.
		Oh, Castro.
		Now, think what Castro would pay for a nuke.
unidentified		Boy, those are wonderful thoughts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trouble is, we all know who he'd use it against.
		I don't know.
		I'm trying to give it some thought.
		There's got to be a use.
		There's a hundred of them, it's reported, out there.
		We'll take something.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		On my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I don't have a whole lot of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, let's begin by finding out whether you're using this line properly or not.
unidentified		Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you an employee or are you now?
unidentified		I'm a former employee.
		Former employee?
		I was let go on a medical discharge about a week ago and I've kind of been running across the country.
		Oh, man, I don't know where to start.
		They're going to triangulate on this position really, really soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't spend a lot of time on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So give us something quick.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay, what we're thinking of as aliens are extra-dimensional beings that an earlier precursor of the space program made contact with.
		They are not what they claim to be.
		They have infiltrated a lot of aspects of the military establishment, particularly the Area 51.
		The disasters that are coming, the government knows about them.
		And there's a lot of safe areas in this world that they could begin moving the population to now, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But they're not doing anything.
unidentified		They want those major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		discharged.
unidentified		I started getting...
unidentified		Well, Well, this was certainly interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are now on a backup system, everybody.
		A backup system.
		And that one caller that I had on the air, I guess we were about in the middle of his transmission, his telephone call, which was one of the strangest ones I've ever had.
		And the entire transmitting system by satellite went down here, and we were notified we were off the air.
		And it would appear to be from this end and some sort of massive transmit failure.
		So we are now using a backup system to be on the air.
		And not that I would normally believe this kind of thing, mind you.
		But I can't help but wonder if somebody zapped us in some way.
		We'll find out.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Arbel?
		Yes.
unidentified		What just happened there with the transmission?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, what happened is the transmitter here blew its cookies in some way.
		something knocked us off the air and we're on a backup system now it is government nerd It has to be something, though.
		Well, did you hear...
unidentified		That was awful strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was a really weird guy on the air when it went off?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Real weird out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Like going sort of sounding paranoid, schizophrenic?
unidentified		Like crying and everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how far into the conversation was it when it went off?
unidentified		Just a couple, about 15, 20 seconds, I'd say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you guys missed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You really missed a call then, and I've got a feeling somebody didn't want you to hear it.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Because it was really strange.
		All of a sudden, I'm hearing Mark Furman.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the network, of course, went immediately to a backup tape while we tried to figure out what blew up here.
		So that's what you heard happen.
		And then we're now on a backup link system to be on the air at all right now.
		Well, I'm telling you.
unidentified		Am I on the air right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air right now.
unidentified		Well, you better be, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, by the way?
unidentified		I'm in Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Michigan.
unidentified		Yeah, I called the other night, and I wanted to ask two things.
		Real quick.
		Well, I wanted to say one thing, and I wanted to ask another.
		Real quick.
		I wanted to ask if you could play that remote viewing one while you go to Egypt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And also, I wanted to know all this stuff about Area 51, if it's like the government's trying to put it out there like that.
unidentified		So, like, some other place isn't being watched as much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, it's a big decoy.
		I see what you're saying.
		All right, thank you very much.
unidentified		we are back on the air and apparently will be back after the news i think Stay tuned for more of the absolute best of Art Bell, right after a word from your local sponsors.
unidentified		Art Bell From the Kingdom of Nine, Coast to Coast AM continues with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me tell you what a very, very interesting turn of events.
		Right in the middle of a very, very strange, one of the strangest calls I've ever had, we apparently lost all transmit capability on this end here in Nevada.
		The transmitter went belly up suddenly for some unknown reason.
		I've never seen it do this in all the years, all the years that we've been on the air.
		I have never seen the transmitter in this way just simply fail, a massive fail, like a massive heart attack or some kind.
		And so we have gone to a backup system to get the signal to you right now, and I presume it is getting to you right now.
		Totally bizarre, folks.
		Totally bizarre.
		So I presume that you got to hear whatever they grabbed quickly, which I believe in this case was a bit of the Mark Furman interview.
		Must have seemed a bit out of context, I would say.
		Good interview, but you had to hear it in context.
		All right, well, we will continue on with the backup system and go to work on the primary system.
		This is why we have backup systems.
		Tell you, live radio is weird stuff, folks.
		Anything can happen, and this is another perfect example of that.
		On the run, trying to get things done.
		In a five-hour program, anything can occur.
		And we have had, my transmitter has had an apparent massive heart attack.
		Or something happened to it, or somebody did something to it.
		And I will not mention the alternative means we're doing to get accomplishing to get a signal up there right now or to the network, let me put it that way.
		But pretty weird.
		And it certainly occurred at a pretty weird time.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Turn your radio down, please.
		Turn it off.
		There you go.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Barbara in Kingman, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Barbara.
unidentified		My husband and I have a question about that interruption you had and also about Dannon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		All right, the interruption first.
		What do you want to know?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Was that person flipped out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounded flipped out to me.
		But did it have anything?
		Now, did it have anything to do with our failure?
		I must admit, of all the times that it would go out, that was a pretty weird time.
unidentified		Yes, this is Mark, her husband.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And our phones went dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your phones went dead?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At that same time?
unidentified		At that same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		We're in Kingman, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kingman, and your phones.
unidentified		We're on the other side of Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So your phones are now restored, obviously, because you're talking to me.
unidentified		And that sounded very...
		Yes.
		When it went off, what were you hearing?
		I was hearing the man talking, and he sounded like he was almost in tears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And then I heard like a static interruption, and then you went off the air.
		It was just like zip.
		And then the phone went dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too weird for me.
		Too weird for me.
		And you're telling me that your phone went dead at the same time.
unidentified		Yes.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		And my wife and I, we have been rock hounders, I guess you could say, looking for gold and rocks and things like that.
		And we have been up near the Area 51.
		And when we got, we had passed over the Area 51 area where it says no trespassing past this point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not supposed to go past that.
unidentified		Well, we did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you probably met Wackenhut.
unidentified		Well, we met these people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wackenhut Security is, I think, the people that still take care of security up there, and they're really efficient at what they do.
unidentified		Well, yes.
unidentified		They escorted us off the property.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm even wondering how much more I should be talking about this tonight.
unidentified		And they escorted us off the property with automatic weapons.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, well, that's the way it's done.
		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Oh.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dare I answer the line on my Area 51 line?
		You're on there.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		I'm fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you, Arn?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, are you an Area 51 employee?
unidentified		At one time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the past.
unidentified		In the past.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you talk?
unidentified		For a few minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell us what you can tell us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, instead of my asking you questions, just tell us whatever you feel you can say without having something awful happen to you.
unidentified		Well, I've got myself fairly covered right now.
unidentified		About your interruption, that last caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I don't think you're going to hear from him again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got that distinct impression.
		Now, you guys didn't hear the whole call because here's what was going on.
		Halfway through that call, or somewhere through that call, I have no way of knowing.
		We apparently went off the air.
		The transmitter blew up or whatever happened happened.
		Yeah, you got the pulse.
		And my hotline was ringing, so I don't know when, at what point during that call we actually lost it.
		I don't know.
unidentified		He lost it.
unidentified		He was just starting to cry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And the whole thing just went dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then how long was it before you got to hear audio again?
unidentified		About two minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two minutes.
		Oh, man.
		I bet Salon's alarms went off everywhere, all across the country.
		Okay, anyway, listen, why do you think we'll never hear from him again?
unidentified		Because he was on the phone too long.
unidentified		And he's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, if you'd heard the end of the call, I'll tell you.
		I'll tell everybody right now.
		The end of the call, it got worse and worse.
		He was crying, and he screamed.
		He screamed, and the line went dead.
		And at that point, I think I went to another call, and I answered the hotline and found out we'd been blown off the air somehow.
		I've got a guest in the studio right now.
		He's confirming, he's shaking his head.
		Everything I'm telling you is exactly true.
		This guy screamed, and the line went dead.
		I wish you could have heard the end of it.
unidentified		I can imagine the end of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very easily.
unidentified		I used to work security problems for Site-51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I was one of the men they called to close gaps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, close caps?
unidentified		Gaps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gaps.
		Leaks.
		I am going to ask you a question.
		In the course of your work, doing that kind of wet work, were you ever required to, or did you ever have to take a life in the course of your duties?
		Don't let those silence alarms go off now.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Well, do you regret what you had to do?
		Do you rationalize in your mind what you had to do because of national security, or how do you now feel about it?
		Do you carry guilt because of it, or what?
unidentified		But I believed in what I was doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I guess you would have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You couldn't do it, could you?
unidentified		No, there came a time when I walked away.
unidentified		But when I was doing the work, I believed wholeheartedly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, I don't want to keep you on the line too long.
		I learned one hard lesson tonight already.
		Okay?
unidentified		Yeah, well, like I said, I've got myself covered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope that's so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
unidentified		You too.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, alright, this is Vince in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Vince.
unidentified		Oh, that caller when you had the blackout there.
		We heard about two minutes of it in Chicago, and it sounded pretty scary.
		It sounded like that guy was a little scared.
		And I don't know if he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little scared?
		You should have heard the end of the call.
		I mean, I got to complete the call here.
		I really shouldn't say that.
		He screamed at the end, and the line went dead.
		And then everything went dead.
		Well, actually, it went dead before that.
		I just didn't know it.
unidentified		Yeah, we heard about two minutes of it.
		And there were some clicks in and out somewhere in the transmission, like it was going dead a little bit.
		Then it was dead over here in Chicago for almost two minutes of dead air.
		And it sounded like he was really losing it.
		And he mentioned that something is going to happen, and no one's telling us what's going to happen.
		That's right.
		You want to tell us what he might have said at the end?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At the end, he was saying he was on the line too long.
		At the end, there was a scream, and the line went dead.
		I'm just telling you what happened.
		And, of course, at that point, my hotline was ringing.
		I was getting real busy because we were off the air.
		So, you know, the network was telling me we were off from this end.
		And so I was, at that point, contacting people and trying to establish a backup system, and they were running a Mark Firmative.
		And so that's where everything ended.
		I stopped listening and stopped functioning as I normally do at exactly that point.
unidentified		That was a good call.
		And that's one that might have to be played against.
		Maybe I'd like to hear it again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		It can't be.
		Well, except for up to the point where the network lost it.
		In other words, I don't, as a matter of course, record here.
		The network records.
		But they would have only recorded up to the point where it went dead.
		Now, I'll tell you this.
		I would like to hear it myself.
		So when we get everything back to normal, I'm going to have the network play that back so I can hear it.
unidentified		Do you think it was legitimate?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I really at this moment can't say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I find it rather strange that everything failed during that call.
unidentified		That was weird because I was playing with my dial wondering what happened if something was wrong with my radio.
unidentified		There was dead air for a good two minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's serious for WLS in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It just means it's dead air.
unidentified		Yeah, another thing, that first caller, the first Area 51 caller, it seemed like that guy had a lot to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
unidentified		I think he should call back again sometime.
unidentified		I think he's got a lot to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're hearing, well, we've had a lot of strange calls tonight.
		I should have done this a long time ago.
		All right, thank you.
unidentified		All right, Kevin, one more thing.
		Yeah.
		The program with Jim Collier debating Richard Hogan about whether we walked on the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
unidentified		I've been listening to you for about a year, and I think that was one of the best programs I ever heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they really went at each other.
		You know, it's funny.
		People had either a very positive or a very negative reaction to that program.
		Some people sent me emails and said it was the worst thing they ever heard.
unidentified		No, I thought it was very hard-hitting and entertaining.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what it's all about.
		Thanks, Vince.
		Take care.
		On my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, yeah.
unidentified		I'm calling from Rochester, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		Rochester.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rochester, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an ex-Area 51 employee?
unidentified		No, I'm not.
unidentified		But I've got some valid points.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you're going to have to make your valid points on another line.
		Now, this is a special Line.
		Only Area 51 employees call this line.
		So contact me on one of the other lines.
unidentified		All right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you.
		See?
		You can't cheat.
		The rules are the rules.
		Is for the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		Your tonight's show is fascinating, of course.
		I'd like to suggest a possible open line for NASA employees for the secret NASA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		NASA employees?
unidentified		For the secret NASA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For the NASA line, you mean?
unidentified		Right, you know, for the secret NASA that Richard speaks of, as opposed to the one that we all know about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely right.
		That's a wonderful idea.
		A NASA secret mission line.
unidentified		Right.
		I also had a cute question.
		You've given us some great movie reviews in the past, and what do you use your Real Talk for?
		You said you use yours every day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I use it for recording other talk shows that are on the air when I'm on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I can listen to my competition.
unidentified		Okay, one suggestion for NASA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		Right, bye.
		That's what I use it for.
		I generally run it when I'm on the air.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		All right.
		Yes.
		Good morning, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		I am a couple of three points.
unidentified		First of all, I'm an audio engineer, and you might be interested to know that they're still having little burbles in your audio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure it's because of the backup system.
unidentified		Anyway, this is Nick from Oak Harbor, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I am near Woodby Naval Air Station here, and I worked on that base for almost seven years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would be, yes.
unidentified		We have seen the silent craft that you've talked about.
unidentified		And also, it's interesting that I am near Woodby Naval Air Station here, and I worked on that base for almost seven years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would be, yes.
unidentified		We have seen the silent craft that you've talked about.
unidentified		And also, it's interesting that they have areas here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Triangular craft, sir?
unidentified		The silent ones.
		I couldn't.
		My wife and I, well, it's a long story, actually.
		I'm blind, but my wife saw them.
		We weren't more than a couple, three hundred yards from them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're relying then on her description, physical description.
unidentified		Yes, but I was there to vouch that there was no noise.
unidentified		And she saw them very plainly for about two or three minutes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, of all the times that it would be hard to be sightless, that would be one of them.
unidentified		I agree.
		It would be...
		But another interesting...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		From Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That was talking about the Supreme Commandant or whatever that was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, of course.
unidentified		You need to know that he was the same guy that called when you had that men in black line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		There are several people who have said that, and I don't doubt it.
		I don't doubt it at all.
		It could be true.
unidentified		And he was telling somewhat different stories.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Similar story.
		It could have been the same one.
		It absolutely could have been the same one, but it could still be a valid call.
unidentified		But it's interesting about this naval air station up here, and I'll probably have somebody at my door in a few minutes for this, but they have areas up here that are posted, no photographs beyond this point.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, oh, yes.
unidentified		And many areas on the base that, of course, are more or less restricted.
		Well, some of that I understand.
		But when I worked there, they had this giant underground construction going on.
		Humongous kind of earth movers and things in here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All underground?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What were they doing?
unidentified		And they denied it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They denied it.
unidentified		Well, this is so ridiculous, you're not going to believe it, but it's the truth.
		When we would ask anybody out there, of course, they would deny that anything spectacular was being built, and yet we could see these huge earth movers.
		They're too big to miss.
		I'm an entertainer, so I didn't work directly with that, but I worked at one of the clubs there.
		And every time they would scoop out a great big scoop of earth, we could feel the whole club shake, you know.
		And they always denied that anything special was going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think they were doing?
unidentified		I'm not sure, but I do know that there is some, must be a rather large underground complex there.
unidentified		And whether it's a safety, you know, a hardened site like you have in the mountains back there or what it is, I don't know for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how long ago was this?
unidentified		This would have been in 90 and 91.
unidentified		This project extended over some period of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd sure love to know what's down there, wouldn't you?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whidbey Island, huh?
		Anybody else know about the Diggins under Whidbey Island?
		What do you suppose we might be doing?
		Well, operating on a backup system, but we are still here.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		Coast AM
		Coast AM And now, back to the best of Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
		Now again, here's Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now again, here I am.
		We remain, ladies and gentlemen, on a backup system at this hour.
		The transmitter on this end, apparently having had a massive heart attack or stroke, I don't know.
		Everything's out.
		Literally, everything's out.
		And to add to the mystery, I just got a fax and I just verified it.
		Last words heard were, approximately, quote, major cities will Be wiped out.
		They want this to better control the remaining population.
		And then, I guess, according to this faxer, that's where we went off the air.
		Then I got another fax a moment ago saying, Art, during that exact moment that you went off the air, the counter on the website jumped by about 300 and you went over 5 million.
		And I just checked it out.
		I'm on my own website right now, and he is exactly correct.
		We went over 5 million.
		Now, I wonder if I go to my own live studio cam, which is not live right now, what the last picture taken was before all of this began to happen, and I'm looking at it right now.
		Here we are.
		Interesting.
		You can see me on a telephone, and you can see my mystery guest in the background.
		Before the program is over today, I will tell you who he is.
		But you can see the catastrophic moment was captured in the last studio live cam shot that we sent to the net.
		And you'll see me sort of panicked on the phone, and you'll see my guest making notes like crazy.
		Man, what a night.
		Broadcasting.
		There's nothing like live broadcasting in the entire world.
		There's nothing like live broadcasting, ladies and gentlemen.
		Nothing.
		Now, I just talked to my boss at the network, Alan Corbeth.
		And he said, you know, in 35 years of broadcasting, this is the weirdest event that I've ever heard.
		And I second that.
		There are presently engineers racing to the network, probably already there at this hour.
		And so it's pretty weird.
		This whole thing is pretty weird.
		On the first-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it's not the first-time caller line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is my Area 51 line.
unidentified		Okay, they said 702-727-1222 is a first-time caller line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I take it you're a first-time caller.
unidentified		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I'm restricting this line to Area 51 callers, although I'm now beginning to get a little shy about talking to them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So bad things happen when you talk to them.
unidentified		I had an interesting comment about an air show with a stealth fighter pilot that maybe might be a little interesting.
unidentified		Just a couple quick comments, if I can say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, slip them in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Go ahead and slip them in now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go!
		You're on the air.
		I mean, turn your radio off.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
		You know, it makes you wonder about some of these people on Air 51, the physical trail, the verbal trail, what they do with this.
		Well, I've done an air show in Oklahoma, and they had a stealth fighter pilot down there, and it was after the Gulf War.
		A lot of people asked him questions, and he was saying how they were on the cutting edge of technology, you know, being able not to be tracked by radar.
		And he said that they are restricted to what they know, but yet they do know quite a bit about the aircraft.
		And as people were following in and asking him questions, you know, I'm kind of a skeptic, and I asked him, well, what's going to happen, you know, with all these secrets of America being, you know, bought from Russians and whatnot, what will it do with you with what you know?
		I said, are they going to set you up on a Caribbean island and, you know, give you the royal treatment?
		And, I mean, his tone changed.
		And he said, first of all, I serve my country and I'd never do anything like that.
		And it was almost like I struck a nerve, like, you know, is this something that maybe makes him wonder, too, that, you know, when they release him from fighter duty, what are they going to do with him?
		So, you know, it makes you wonder like that guy saying that he took care of gaps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, what's the deal?
unidentified		I mean, do they just in any pause?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think what he referred to as gaps end up being lumps in the desert.
unidentified		So, you know, it makes you wonder like that guy saying that he took care of gaps.
		Yeah, what's the deal?
		I mean, do they just in any pause?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think what he referred to as gaps end up being lumps in the desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I got to run.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
unidentified		Thanks.
		You're listening to a rebroadcast of one of Arfell's most popular programs.
		When you hear phone numbers, please do not call.
		Now, from the Kingdom of Nine, more Ghost-to-Ghost A.M. with Arfell.
		Here again is Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell you what I'm going to do.
		I'm going to leave this last photograph up that was taken when we went down off the air, and you'll see me with a white phone line, which is my hotline, talking to the network.
		And you will see my mysterious visitor making notes like, scribbling like crazy because we were off the air, blown off the air somehow or another.
		Now, will I stop taking Area 51 calls?
		No, I won't.
		Will my link go down?
		It might.
		So, folks, no guarantees about what is to come, but hey, what the hell?
		You only live once.
		On the international line, you're on the air.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Oh, it's Victoria, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Victoria, Canada.
		All right.
		Welcome to the program.
		Pretty weird, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, I just want to don't know if you know, but your international feed's gone down, too, up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg your pardon?
unidentified		Your international feed to Canada has gone down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It has?
unidentified		Yeah, well, I'm not hearing you guys from up here in Canada, but I can hear KIRO from Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From Seattle, so you're not hearing us in Canada?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What station would you normally be hearing it on?
unidentified		I'd normally be hearing it on CFAX.
		CFAX.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it ain't one thing, it's another.
unidentified		I guess so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Well, any comments on Area 51?
		You want to blow me off a few more stations?
unidentified		Oh, I can't think of anything about Area 51, although I've kind of had the idea, thought, that maybe you're broadcasting from Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Close by, I'll tell you that much anyway.
		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call, and I'm glad you can at least hear us wherever it is you're listening.
		On my Area 51 line, see, I won't stop.
		You're on air.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Yes.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're listening, right?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Security.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is what they make backup systems for.
unidentified		Well, right on.
		Right on.
		I'm security.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For Area 51?
unidentified		For Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Currently?
unidentified		Currently.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you risking quite a bit by talking to us?
unidentified		Oh, no.
unidentified		No, because professional cleaners, you know, they dig a lot of holes in the desert.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Professional cleaners?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cleaners.
		I don't think I like that term.
		What do you clean?
unidentified		Well, I use a lot of acid, and I dig a lot of holes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you dig a lot of holes.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I bet you don't let the little things bother you, huh?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		Let's see.
		How can I dredge the truth from you?
		How can I know you're telling me the truth?
unidentified		Just a guess, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, we just got to listen and believe, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been doing this job?
unidentified		Well, 1990.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Since 1990.
unidentified		I was in some Gulf War operations.
unidentified		Things like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How'd you get picked for this job?
unidentified		Well, rigorous training.
		Various governmental issues that you have to know.
		A lot of brain work.
		Mostly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got any idea why I was tossed off the air like that?
unidentified		I have a good idea.
		We worked with some things, some different satellite operations in the Gulf War where we cut down certain transmissions.
		I have no idea what happened tonight.
		I wouldn't want to say what happened tonight, but I don't think the caller will be calling back.
		Although I had nothing to do with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're the second one to say that.
unidentified		Well, something's been done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Obviously.
unidentified		Something's been done, and things will continue to happen for national security.
unidentified		I mean, people need to know certain things on a need-to-know basis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, they don't need to know them, huh?
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes, sir.
		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate the call.
		So there you go, see?
unidentified		It is true that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Certainly not the way I play around with it, but look here.
		That was one of the weirder calls we've ever had.
		Nothing, I guarantee you, was staged.
		It just happened.
		And I have never seen, in all the years I've been broadcasting, the kind of massive failure that we've got right now.
		I still have no idea, by the way, what's occurred.
		They're accessing my transmitter by modem, trying to figure out what's occurred.
		And we'll let you know, but I have never seen this kind of massive failure ever.
		And as you well know, we've been broadcasting in this manner for years and years and years and years, reliably.
		Save one time when a rat threw a wire through, but it's not that this time.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
unidentified		My name's Fame only is Gary.
		I'm calling you from a cell phone in southeast Missouri.
		Okay.
		And I was going to say I missed the part where you were off the air, but I had a question for you.
		It doesn't deal with Area 51.
		There was a book, and I believe you had the author on.
		It was called The Mysterious Valley.
		And the author's name is Christopher O'Brien, I believe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
		I think you're confusing me with another program.
		I don't recall either the author or the book.
unidentified		Okay, well, he's talking about the San Luis Valley, and it borders Colorado and two other states.
		And he was talking about a lot of very mysterious activities, UFO activity.
		If you get a chance, that would be a pretty good person to have on your program.
		He had some very interesting things.
		He started out as, I think, something of a skeptic, and then he found himself in the same position you were in.
		He's been deluged by people with stories and has actually taken photographs and footage himself of UFO phenomenon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, by the way, we've got, in case anybody is really wondering and curious, we've got a picture of sure of Area 51 on the website now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The non-existent Area 51 that I'm apparently getting in so much trouble for talking about.
unidentified		Right.
		Oh, and I had a suggestion for you.
		The gentleman that asked about what color was the door, how you paid for your lunch, one way you might want to verify that is get somebody that you think would be credible, maybe this Bob Lazar or somebody, and then privately ask them and give them the question to say, what is your answer to it, and then use that, and then that's a pretty good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		That's a good idea.
		I could do that.
		I know Bob.
		On my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm calling about the guy who called from Woodby Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're not an Area 51 employee, are you?
unidentified		Well, this is the only line I knew.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to call on another line.
unidentified		Okay, which one do you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Any of them.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, bye.
		See, that's for Area 51 employees only or retired Area 51 employees who could probably would be more likely to talk in my estimation.
		On my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey there, let me turn down my radio here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, please.
unidentified		Okay, let me just say something about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an Area 51 employee?
unidentified		Not currently, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you?
unidentified		Yes, I was.
		All right.
		But I only will stay on the line for 45 seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then go.
unidentified		Did you hear a distinctive sound?
		You wouldn't have, but I want you to ask your listeners.
		There was silence, and then there was a distinctive voice.
		Didn't sound like yours.
		it sounded something like I heard connect very faintly and then nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't have that on tape, do you?
unidentified		Oh, God, I wish I did.
		I usually tape a lot of your shows because I don't get to hear them.
		And tonight was one of the very rare nights that I didn't.
		But I'm going to hang up now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you're exactly right.
		45 seconds on the nose.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Steve in Greenville, South Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		The caller that came on, the guy that was pretty scared, he came on, you know, and he was kind of ratting and raving about how scared he was, and he said something about they're going to triangulate pretty quickly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Then he, you know, he was tore up and almost crying.
		I thought he was going to be a crank call because I thought at any time he was just going to be a crank call.
		No.
		Until he said the natural, something about natural disasters that are going to happen, they know all about it.
		And then they're going to, you know, destroy it.
		They want the city destroyed to make the people more controllable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and that's where...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got that in the facts.
unidentified		And then he came, there was what this guy just said.
		Some other, you know, you were off the air for just a second or two, and then another sound in the background.
		I couldn't tell if it was him yelling or disconnect or whatever, and then you were...
		I heard something.
		It faded back in.
		And I couldn't, I'm in my car right now calling you.
		I've been trying to call to tell you exactly what I heard.
		Because I focused, you know, it was so weird.
		I thought it was like to say it was going to be a crank call.
		But then all of a sudden, he really, you know, that, when all this happened, made it sound pretty real.
		But he came, something came back in with some other conversation.
		It went back out for like a minute and a half, and then your opening theme song, the That wasn't coming from me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was coming from the network.
unidentified		Right.
		It played for about maybe a minute or a minute and a half.
		And then all of a sudden, Mark Fuhrman's talking about, here's a couple of plants for comb growth and the show you did the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the weird thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The moment they told me I was off the air, I turned and started monitoring my own network.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it lasted for about a minute or two minutes, I would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then it went like that, and I lost the network here.
unidentified		Yeah, and it's, I mean, I was listening to this guy talk, and I said, I've got to call because there was a lot of things this guy was saying that weren't, you know, he was just kind of scared.
		But I remember him saying, I can't talk too long because they'll triangulate on this pretty quick.
		You remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
unidentified		Yeah, and then he came, then he was like, Ranton and Raven and back to the, and I thought he said like natural or disaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he says something about natural disasters.
unidentified		It was, man, Ark, you got an awesome show.
unidentified		That's all I can say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks.
unidentified		We enjoy it out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just hope I can keep doing it.
unidentified		Yeah, and you're getting verbals.
unidentified		I guess that's from your backup system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's correct.
unidentified		I've got a guess on your, I mean, I'm in my car, so I can't see a computer.
unidentified		It's not fair to us not to know who your special guest is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		Ah, well, that was my guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good guess.
		All right.
		I'll tell you what I'll do.
		I'll tell you.
		I'll tell you now.
		Because I know that some of you will go to morning shows on the East Coast.
unidentified		My special guest is name?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mark.
		Verman.
		Not Mark Verman.
		Mark Ehrman.
		And he is here making notes like crazy and watching this crazy night occur to us.
		And he is here from Penthouse Magazine.
		So Penthouse is going to do a story.
		I've got a hell of a story now, huh?
		So what you will see in the background is me, if you look at the studio camera, I bet people are going up there like crazy right now.
		You will see me just after the failure has occurred, and you'll see Mark Ehrman from Penthouse Magazine making notes like crazy.
		So there you are, folks.
		I didn't want to hang people up.
		Everybody from my son to, I've got a whole stack of facts here guessing that he was everybody but who he is.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going once.
		Going twice, going.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		In remote viewing, I discovered there's a huge alien base centered about south, excuse me, east of you.
		And it could have tentacles that reach all the way to Washington State.
		And I just want to say that I think by reviving our spiritual life is the only protection we have because the technology and military systems far outweigh our own, and there's just no other way but to put icons in your home to pray and revive your own religious and spiritual life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, huh?
unidentified		That's the way it looks to me.
unidentified		So I picked up a few of the CIA books and started honing in on my own remote viewing capacities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you discovered all this?
unidentified		I saw that just the other day.
		So it could be psychomental material.
		It's hard to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a new one on me, a new word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Psychomental.
unidentified		Yeah, psychomental material.
		And we're dealing with kind of a reptoid race, greys and draconians.
		And they're not really friendly to us, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Especially to earth women.
unidentified		Well, I feel safe.
		Don't laugh.
		I feel safe because I'm resting in the heart of God.
		So that's what I want to say to the viewers is, like, if you've got the remnants of your religion, pull them out.
		This is the time for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'll consider myself preached to there.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I got a quick question.
unidentified		It's Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What exactly is that?
unidentified		I tuned in about an hour ago, and I have no idea what you're talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Montana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Montana.
		Area 51 is a secret base that the U.S. government claims does not exist, that I have a photograph of up on the website where they do all kinds of really weird things.
		And it's just a few miles over the mountain from me here.
		That's Area 51.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		It's in Nevada then?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Okay.
		Yeah, near, not far from the Mercury test site, if you have heard of that.
unidentified		I have no idea where that is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where they lit off the big bombs.
		Oh, okay.
		All right.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		And your website, what's the address for that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's www.artbell.com.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		That's it.
		That is my website.
		And it just, during the outage, incredibly, what are the odds of that?
		It clicked over to 5 million, and I verified that, too.
unidentified		Ooh, this is a very strange night on Coast to Coast AM.
		Coast to Coast AM.
		Coast to Coast AM.
		This is an awful presentation of Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it just gets stranger and stranger.
		I have never heard of what you're about to hear about in all my life.
		I'm going to take you now up to Oregon, Medford, Oregon, where our engineer, network engineer, Tony Howell, is on the line.
		Tony, are you there?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tony, you just got off the telephone with General Electric in New Jersey, I guess, correct?
unidentified		Correct.
unidentified		GE AmeriCom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		GE AmeriCom in New Jersey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I went off the air, what happened?
unidentified		Well, the story goes that the satellite that you transmit on, GE1, seems to have lost its Earth sensor lock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Its Earth sensor lock.
unidentified		Correct, meaning that it lost its orientation in the sky just slightly and started a kind of a shift.
		So many of the frequencies, KU and C, actually started to phase out.
		And what happened to your frequency?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it would not just have been me, it would have been everybody on the satellite I'm using, which would have been quite a considerable number of broadcast facilities, wouldn't it?
unidentified		Well, even wilder than that, it was 50 channels.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		50 channels.
unidentified		50 channels on GE1, including, not including our channel, which is the network's KU channel, which, as everybody knows, we stayed on the air just fine.
unidentified		You're the one that went down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I went down.
		That's right.
		Well then how could you, you know, You use the same GE1 to get it back to New Jersey, right?
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		That's just amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If it lost Earthlock, it should have lost...
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then it should have lost it for everything.
unidentified		Well, strangely enough, many channels did stay in the air, including our channel, except your channel and 50 others.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And 50.
unidentified		So it just depended who you were and where you were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too weird, Tony.
unidentified		Really weird.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if that's not weird, as you know, I monitored my transmitter here, and I watched all the sync locks, and they were gone, like this transmitter was gone.
unidentified		Yeah, you just weren't touching anything in the sky.
unidentified		I mean, you were totally missing your bird, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Tony.
unidentified		I know.
		It took them about a half an hour to get it back together.
		They had everybody scrambling around TE, trying to get it orientated properly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sure would like to understand how you can lose 50 channels out of a total of how many do you think?
unidentified		I would say there's probably at least 200 up there, at least.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then a quarter of the channels were lost because it lost its look at Earth.
		I just, you know what?
		I almost don't believe that.
		I mean, I guess I've got to accept the explanation.
unidentified		Well, you know yourself that with all the weather changes going on, things are just terribly weird around here.
unidentified		So if, you know, if for some reason it was supposed to be looking and getting its power solarly from the sun and looking at it in a specific spot and not finding it there, it could have lost its sink.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so maybe just one of the panels supplying, say, a quarter of the spacecraft lost it.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Of course, GE, you know, it's still early in the game.
		GE's not quite certain, but that's how it's looking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Tony, it's the damnedest thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
unidentified		Yeah, you got me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I do have you, and I'm glad to have you.
		And I'm sure glad you gave us all that information.
		And now I'm more curious than ever.
unidentified		Well, just so you know, GE is supposed to publish a public report on what happened.
unidentified		So you will get some kind of information out of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if we'll get the real thing.
unidentified		It'll be interesting to see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was a scut did you hear the I actually did.
unidentified		And, well, I have just re-listened to it.
unidentified		And you can hear it slightly lose lock when the caller was talking at the end of his conversation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Tony, bless your heart.
		I thank you for coming on the air and telling us about this.
		I still don't fully understand nor believe.
		I guess we'll see the Written report.
		Thank you, Tony.
unidentified		Thank you, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Tony Howell at our network in Oregon.
		So my transmitter didn't blow up, even though it acted like it blew up, because it lost everything.
		My transmitter lost everything.
		And the network using the same satellite to transfer it to New Jersey did not lose it.
		But it wasn't because of anything that happened here.
		It was because the satellite itself, they say, lost Earth, the link to Earth, didn't know where Earth was anymore, or at least a portion of it, and took about a quarter of the totality of the channels, 200, 50, off the air.
		Now, is that weird or what?
		All right, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do my little commercial set here, and then I want the folks at the network to back it up at least two minutes, at least two minutes or more before failure, and I want to replay that, and I want to hear it myself.
		I want to hear it myself.
		So I'm going to be listening to it down here.
		So if the network would please prepare to do that on my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I don't have a whole lot of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, let's begin by finding out whether you're using this line properly or not.
unidentified		Area 51.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Were you an employee or are you now?
unidentified		I'm a former employee.
		Former employee.
		I was let go on a medical discharge about a week ago and I've kind of been running across the country.
		Oh, man, I don't know where to start.
		They're going to triangulate on this position really, really soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can't spend a lot of time on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So give us something quick.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay.
		What we're thinking of as aliens are extra-dimensional beings that an earlier precursor of the space program made contact with.
		They are not what they claim to be.
		They have infiltrated a lot of aspects of the military establishment, particularly the Area 51.
		The disasters that are coming, I'm sorry, the government knows about them.
		And there's a lot of safe areas in this world that they could begin moving the population to now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But they're not doing anything.
unidentified		They are not.
unidentified		They want the major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was it.
		That was it.
		That's where it cut off.
		Wow.
		Wow.
		All right.
		Now I've heard it.
		Thank you, folks.
		I was unable to hear that myself until just now.
		Weird, weird stuff.
		In all my life.
		I mean, I went in the other room, and I looked at the uplink transmitter, and it was like it was dead as a doornail.
		I mean, everything was uns there was no sync light.
		There was no anything.
		Every indicator on the transmitter said it was dead as a doornail.
		And in fact, it was not dead.
		The satellite in space that it was looking at was dead.
		Or only, to be more specific, one portion of that satellite in space was dead.
		I don't know.
		This is one for the record books.
		On my Area 51 line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, I'd like to follow up with the Area 51 contributions being given.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an employee or were you?
unidentified		Actually, in a separate field, but related.
		Within the Nevada state, we have several air traffic dispatches that handle a lot of the bank's work when they fly in case of a national disaster.
		We're up and greenlighted to go ahead and maintain and make sure that people's money is safe and all the transactions okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God knows if there's a national emergency, the one thing we have to preserve is our financial structure, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, well, you know, money makes the world go round.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it does.
unidentified		Oh, no, I try not to preach that.
unidentified		Anyhow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it really is true, though.
unidentified		You know, absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		And it's a necessity.
		And, you know, at one time it did pay my bills.
		I'm not in that field anymore.
		That's on account of personal problems.
		But in relation to being around certain facilities that would, you know, handle any kind of incoming or outgoing dispatching of just small light craft, we had an interesting cleaning service that would come in and collect every piece of hard copy transcript that we'd have print up in regards to weather charting, in regards to cleaning service?
		Absolutely, absolutely.
		They'd come in and they'd go ahead and take and make sure that any kind of trash that we had or any kind of hard copy of any kind of weather reporting or any kind of basic satellite.
		We have a national weather service which provides us with reasonable anticipations of what precipitation might be like at certain altitudes that our pilots that are coming in are available safely.
		Anyhow, all of that had to be confiscated and we weren't allowed to hold on to any records, which proved really interesting because it was pretty tight security for just working on these small aircraft flying back and forth.
		But yeah, you know, those cleaning guys didn't mess around.
		They were pretty serious about their business.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I had a fellow a little while ago who called himself a cleaner, so I take it you bought that as serious.
unidentified		Well, you know, it rang a muted bell.
		And that's why I decided I'd contribute.
		But, you know, I was going to call you on the first-time caller thing, and then when he mentioned the cleaner thing, it rang a bell.
		Anyhow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you think, may I please ask a question?
		Sure.
		I know that you may not be able to answer this, but wild as this may sound, it does now appear that the satellite that I'm using suddenly lost Earth track.
		Or at least a portion of the satellite I'm using, which is even stranger, lost Earth track during a very critical call, as you heard.
unidentified		You know, that's really rare.
unidentified		That is such an infrequent happening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Infrequent?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've never in all my broadcast career heard of it occurring.
unidentified		Ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ever, ever, ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've been in this business for 30 years now.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		And considering the kind of money that's involved, it really surprises me that something like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So my question is, could somebody have deliberately caused what occurred?
unidentified		How hard can it be?
unidentified		Someone's at the controls.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		God bless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		There you are.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Turn your radio off, Joe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very important.
		I know the other person probably wants to listen, but it won't work.
		You've got to have that off.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Is Nancy in Palm Springs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Nancy.
unidentified		I'm a tenure listener, first-time caller.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
		Last week, a gentleman called, I believe, from Lakewood, California.
		He was trying to get a copy of Penthouse Magazine for September.
		And I just wanted to say that on September 1st, I went to three or four places trying to get it.
		And the man where I finally found a copy said he had been told to pull them all and send them back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		You know what?
		I've heard this from I don't know how many different callers and faxers that the September issue of Penthouse got pulled back.
		I've got a Penthouse person sitting right next to me.
unidentified		That's what I understood.
		And the thing is that I said, well, I didn't want the October issue.
		I wanted the one that had that cancer article in it.
		And he said, well, I'll tell you what, I was told to pull them, but they're still sitting in the back room.
		If you want to wait a minute, I'll go get you one of them.
		Which he did.
		And I bought it and left and was very grateful because they were told to pull them and send them back.
		That's what the man told me at the time.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got somebody from Penthouse here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll ask for you, all right?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks.
		I've had a bunch of people tell me that.
		Is there anything to that at all?
unidentified		Well, you are if you get closer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard that yourself?
unidentified		I can go in tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tomorrow.
		All right.
		That'd be cool.
		Thanks.
		Yeah, I've heard that from a number of people that that issue was somehow recalled or called back.
		I don't know what the deal is, but there was a big article by Kathy Keaton, Bob Guccione's wife, about her cancer treatment.
		Of course, we had Bob Guccione on, and then we had Kathy Keaton on, and I got, I don't know, a dozen reports, a good dozen reports.
		That magazine had been called back.
		Curious.
		Very curious.
		On a curious night.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		I just wanted to say a couple things about the fellow who called and was so scared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's often hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's not telling the truth.
		But I'm going, and I was talking myself out of believing that he was for real because he was sort of too scary.
		But going back to, I get certain physical sensations when I know I'm hearing the truth.
		And that guy was for real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		I believe he was.
unidentified		I think you have a couple of callers tonight who were absolutely for real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
		I say it again.
		I've been broadcasting for 30 years.
		And in 30 years, I have never seen what happened happen.
		In 30 years, I never have had a call quite like the one that I had when this occurred.
unidentified		Well, I remember Jimmy Joe Bob or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Joe Bob, that was weird.
		Yeah, that was weird.
		But it was not quite as weird in its own way as this one.
unidentified		For sure.
		And I also want to say a couple other things, and it's that I wouldn't personally believe General Electric and what they were telling me about what happened with the satellite.
		No.
		Wouldn't necessarily.
		And also, I think that national security is unnecessary.
		I think that there really and truly is no such thing as national security.
		I think it's always been breached.
		I think that whoever is supposedly the enemy, we all know each other's so-called secrets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what I worry about now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That I'm the enemy.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Well, exactly.
		And we are the enemy, you know, for talking about it out loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You might be exactly right.
		I got to go, Han.
		We're at a breakpoint here, bottom of the hour.
		That's a hard thing to contemplate, isn't it?
		That we, or even that I, might be the enemy.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		And they still have time, but they still get by.
		Every time I think about it.
		Stay tuned for more of the Best of Art Bell right after a word from your local sponsors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Best of Art Bell Let's go to our international line and say good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who are you and where are you calling from?
unidentified		I'm going to use an alias of Bill.
unidentified		I'm calling from Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bill, Tucson?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How did you get on my international line?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		You called the 1702 number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did, huh?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, anyway, why are you using an alias?
		There must be a reason for that.
unidentified		I used to work for Hughes Aircraft as maintenance mechanic, maintenance engineering.
		Aha.
		And a lot of the work at Area 51 comes out of Hughes Aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet it does.
unidentified		And we worked with some equipment.
unidentified		And I want to get real specific.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, just so you know.
unidentified		Surely top secret equipment?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just so you know, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Hughes AML Microwave School alumni myself.
unidentified		Okay.
		We used to have a piece of equipment we had a hell of a time shielding.
		And whatever hammered you, hammered Tucson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hammered Tucson?
unidentified		It hammered Tucson, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How so?
unidentified		I was sitting here working on my computer listening to the radio and at exactly 10, maybe 15 seconds before you lost your signal, I lost every bit of data in my computer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
unidentified		My hard drive is fine, but every bit of data on it is gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That implies an EMP pulse.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
unidentified		Well, there's more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me suggest something to you.
		Hold on, slow down.
		Did you know that our Defense Department requested permission to zap a satellite in orbit with a laser?
		Did you know that?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's news that's been breaking over the last few days.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that just came back to me now.
unidentified		No, you got hit with an EMP pulse.
		I would be willing to bet because what I was telling you about this piece of equipment we had a hell of a time shielding, if I didn't keep my watch in my locker, it would wipe my watch, too.
		I got a digital watch.
		I went and checked my watch.
		It's wiped.
		It's blank.
		It's reading 12 midnight flashing.
		Just as if I would change the battery.
		Whatever hits your transmitter, I have to tend to believe we've got a lot of cloud covered down here right now.
		I think we got a cloud bounce out of it, and it hammered Tucson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Listen, I appreciate the call.
		I'm sorry you lost everything on your drive.
unidentified		I've got it backed up on disk.
		That's no big deal.
		But I'm just letting you know I've seen what EMP can do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just got handed a fact from Buzz in California that says, Art, don't know if you heard the comment, the caller who claimed to be a gap fixer, but he said that you were pulsed.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you agree?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		I didn't hear the comment, but I can certainly concur that you got pulsed.
		I believe the validity of that one call.
		I believe it was absolutely valid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Well, there was a bunch of people saying it then.
		I'm in a very strange business, you know.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		From the Kingdom of Nine, across the country, around the world, and throughout the universe, this is Coast to Coast A.M. with Art Bell on the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line.
		No, no, no, no.
		Area 51 line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello, Mr. Bell.
		Yes.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a little stranged out.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Since you ask.
unidentified		I know a lot of things have been happening out there today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah, well, some gaps have been fixed, and our streets are nice and clean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some gaps have been fixed, and our streets are nice and clean.
		That's kind of cryptic.
		You mean it to be?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		situation was taken care of rather quickly, wouldn't you say so?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know what you know?
unidentified		I'm a current Area 51 employee, and we've handled the problem.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I'm beginning to believe.
		You're really an Area 51 employee?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you not afraid of retribution for making this call?
unidentified		No, because we're security, and that's why Area 51 exists as far as security.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right about that.
unidentified		And just situations have been claimed tonight, especially.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you very much.
		You know, I'm not sure I don't want to pick up that line anymore.
		I believe, you know, I believe in coincidence.
		I really don't like jumping to some sort of conspiratorial answer for something that occurs automatically, but for this to occur at that particular moment, something that I've never seen occur in 30 years of broadcasting during a very specific moment, I find that coincidence way beyond any probability.
		And now I'm getting callers saying, yeah, it was pulsed.
		was done to you Strange life.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's me.
unidentified		Yes, hi.
		This is Mike from New York.
		I'm calling because I recall a guest you had on several weeks ago who spoke of an incident occurring in Cheyenne Mountain, Wyoming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're exactly right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What he said, to catch the audience who might not have heard that, is that there are a whole bunch of Cheyenne employees Who decided to retire early, took their families and moved to, I think he said, South America?
unidentified		Right, South America.
unidentified		And I guess it was Stan Dale from Australia who had some connection with a retired chaplain in the Army who had spoken to some of these people as they were passing through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		And we had a number of people verify that.
		Now, that's scary as hell, because why would employees in Cheyenne Mountain suddenly decide to take their families and every friend they could convince and leave?
unidentified		Right.
		And on a moment's notice, with the idea that they were exposed to it, at least the impression I got that they had access to information as it was fed into Cheyenne, Wyoming, that they saw something that scared them and prompted them to leave very quickly.
		And I'm wondering, possibly, if that's connected to what this caller was, this man who was frightened earlier was referring to respect to some impending disaster or disaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for a second, just forget about the fact that I seem to be blown off the air.
		I mean, I'm nervous anyway.
		Forget about that.
		And just go back to the content of the call as much as you heard.
unidentified		Yeah, well, it was strange.
		I mean, I'm a little nervous.
		I'm not used to speaking on the radio, but I didn't know what happened.
		I thought possibly that you had gotten off the air with him and was speaking to him, and you had cut the music on yourself because it sounded like he was starting to lose it, and you were just trying to calm him down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that call was completed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, in the sense that I would say it went on probably another minute from that point, and then he screamed, and the connection terminated.
unidentified		And the scream was not recorded by your network in Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, because that's when we lost the satellite.
unidentified		Right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I thought I was still on the air.
		I looked over.
		I saw my hotline from the network ringing.
		I picked it up, and they said, hey, we've lost you.
unidentified		Right.
		And what do you think prompted the scream?
		Could you hear anything in that one minute that the network where we could no longer hear him, but you still could?
		What did he say during that one-minute interval?
		Do you recall?
		That would be interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was kind of like he realized that he had been on too long.
		I'm sort of paraphrasing the last minute because it was a very confused time.
		But I had the sense that he felt that he had been on too long, that somebody was on to him or something was about to happen to him.
		And then at the very end, this is all stuff you didn't hear.
		It was kind of a scream and a screech and a cutoff, just a click.
unidentified		and did the uh...
unidentified		the other man the mystery or the penthouse guest in your studio did he get to hear what you heard or was it just like three years no don't you got to hear what i Yeah, you're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Hold on a minute.
		Take those headphones off.
		Take those headphones off.
		Talk to this caller.
unidentified		Hello?
		Yeah, hi.
		I was wondering, did you, you got to hear that one minute interval of, uh, between when the network cut off and when the man screamed and hung up the phone or was?
		The call was completed.
		He screamed, and then the line went dead.
		And there was even another phone caller after that.
		I think an open line caller.
		And he was talking for a while.
		And it was during that call that I think Art realized that we weren't broadcasting.
		Right.
		No, I understand that.
		I was just getting at during that one minute, when Art replayed what the network had on tape, we got to hear the caller who was disturbed what he had to say until that instant when it was cut off for us.
		But you still got to hear another minute of that phone call.
		Yeah, it's hard to say how much more of that there was, but probably about a minute.
		About a minute.
		And during that time, you couldn't relay to the audience anything additionally as to what the caller was saying or about disasters or anything else.
		Did he give anything more specific or could you hear anything in the background?
		I mean, was it like did someone run up to the phone and knock it out of his hand or, you know, could you tell?
		Well, I actually thought it sounded something like that or the phone dropping.
		It was hard to tell.
		And I think it got kind of more and more rambling toward the end and more and more disconnected.
		Okay.
		That's fine.
		I was just, as I was saying to Art, that he had a caller who several weeks ago mentioned a bunch of employees or now former employees of Cheyenne Mountain in Wyoming, which is connected with, I think, NORAD or SAC or something, and into which is fed all of the electronic and other intelligence information from around the world, you know, vis-a-vis the federal government.
		And the impression I got, and I know some other people who listened, that they got as well, was that these people saw something that scared the heck out of them, and it was something that they thought they could survive by leaving the country.
		And here this caller earlier, this disturbed man, is saying there are impending disaster disasters, which can be avoided.
		There are safe areas that you can go to, but the government or the people in power are not going to inform the average citizen, the average American of these things because it's going to serve some purpose that they have.
		Yet the people in Cheyenne, Mount Wyoming, who presumably possibly have access to this same information, saw this stuff.
		At least this is the conclusion maybe I'm coming to.
		Not categorically or absolutely, but there is some kind of an overlap here, possibly saw the same information and decided to get to one of these so-called safe areas.
		Yeah, well, you know, I recall the show, but I wouldn't know anything about it.
		More about that.
		I just figured I'd bring it up as maybe an issue.
		Maybe someone else can call in or someone who knows more about this Cheyenne Mountain.
		Okay, hold on.
		I'm going to put art back on.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm here again.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard all that, and I appreciate your call.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's noteworthy what you said, the connection you make, and I'll think about that.
unidentified		Yeah, living in New York, I get your show on the skip from various cities, so I don't get to hear it every night.
unidentified		So maybe I was thinking I missed something in the interim.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you heard an Interesting show tonight for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, definitely.
unidentified		Your show is great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Keep up the good work.
		Take care.
		All right.
		Without a lot of time, welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		All right.
		You got only eight minutes more until you close out.
		Yep.
		This is Lady of Connecticut.
		That day you came into Anchorage, was that the day that we had all that thunder and lightning stuff happening down here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you again?
unidentified		Connect, Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Connect, Alaska.
		When I came into Anchorage, it was beautiful, beautiful weather for the Inside Passage, for the glaciers and all the rest of it.
		But when we got to Anchorage, it was pouring.
		I was going to go up in a Black Hawk helmet.
unidentified		Do you remember that thunder and lightning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I was sitting across Cook Inlet when I was thinking about you when you was coming in.
unidentified		And what's really, really strange is how many people think you got listening out there across the world?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Millions.
unidentified		A million.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said millions, plural.
unidentified		Millions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they estimate 10 to 12 million.
unidentified		Well, you know what, Art?
unidentified		I think you're more prophetic than what you realize.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Prophetic?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say prophetic, pathetic, or prophetic?
unidentified		Prophetic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Background.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Because you know why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		He says that in them days that people are going to leave the faith and give heed to seducing spirits.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		And he says it's going to be as it was in the times of Noah when people were laying with strange flesh.
		And I've heard you talk about people talking about all kinds of weird stuff going down.
		And you know what, Art?
		We're really in them days.
		And you know that red heifer?
		Yep.
		This last Passover, it was 18 months old.
		And this November, it's going to be two years old.
		And they can't use it for temple worship until it's three years.
		That's one year from this November.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be about the right timing, wouldn't it?
unidentified		Yeah, he's at the door.
		You know what, Art?
		If Teacher Malachi was on the air, there's one thing I would ask him about you.
		I'd say, you know, you've got all these people and stuff.
		And he'd say, are you hot or are you cold?
		Because if you're warm, he's going to spew you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks.
		I ought to get Malachi back on the air again.
		I'm feeling the need.
		Easter, the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		It's Paul in Philadelphia.
		Hi, Paul.
		That's pretty intense.
		Yeah, you got cut off there.
		I was thinking that if it is a real call and what happened as a result.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Frankly, I don't know which is weirder, the call we had or the story that GE Americom is trying to tell us about what happened.
unidentified		Yes, well, if it is real, then we should all pray that if he's been cleaned or whatever, that he is in the bosom of a friendly God.
		And if it's fake, I think we're all relatively intimidated.
		So I shall choose not to be intimidated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it's fake, the timing was unbelievable.
unidentified		Yes, and I'm successfully made nervous by it.
		And I wish you well, and I love your show as usual.
		And that was pretty creepy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty creepy.
		Yes, sir.
		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		It's a pawn photo of here.
		First time caller.
		Oh, no, I'm not even answering that line.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, this is John in Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, John.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		That's what I'm reaching for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I have an interesting fact for you if I can get it in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, go.
unidentified		I'm in Sacramento.
unidentified		Yesterday on the news, they announced there were three specially equipped planes that would be leaving McCullen Air Force Base that were going to be traveling to Bosnia that are equipped to shut down broadcast television.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm aware of that.
		They're not only going to shut it, they're going to jam it, and they also have the ability to broadcast a replacement signal.
		No, you're absolutely correct.
unidentified		Yeah, that was very interesting.
unidentified		I just wondered if they might have just left and passed over your station.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Done a test on the way?
unidentified		Kind of, you know, that kind of thing.
unidentified		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Too weird for me.
unidentified		Yeah, a little strange.
		I appreciate it.
		I had a clip of the, you know, a video clip of him on the news here in Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very glad I had this gentleman from Penthouse with me tonight, just as a witness.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because nobody else heard the rest of the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He did.
unidentified		Yeah, it was very unsettling, and all of a sudden we had the detective from L.A. when you came back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mark Furman, yeah.
unidentified		And I had a detective friend call me.
		He says, what's going on?
		I says, I think he's off the air with the guy that was on the phone or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		I appreciate the call, sir.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Have a good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Wally from Honolulu.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Wally.
unidentified		Art.
		Watch out.
		Courtney, remember Courtney Brown and all that that happened?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		You know, couldn't it be that you're getting set up like he was?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to watch that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Setups can happen anytime, can't they?
unidentified		Yeah.
		But, you know, because the guy sounded deranged to me.
		And also, I got a couple of seconds more than you had on that tape.
		You went in and out and in and out a couple of times before you finally went down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, this strange, strange night is over.
		I'm out of time.
		From the islands, you're going to get the honors this morning, so do it.
unidentified		Fantastic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do it, do it, do it.
unidentified		From Honolulu, Godspeed to everyone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
unidentified		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, folks.
		From the high desert.
		I'll be thinking about this one for a while.
		James on fraud tomorrow night, assuming we're here.
		Good night.
unidentified		Good night.
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