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Aug. 8, 1997 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - Men in Black, Time Travelers

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from August 8th, 1997, from the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning as the case may be across all these many, many time zones stretching from the exotic Tahitian and Hawaiian Island chains in the west eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands south into South America and north to the Pole.
		This is post-coast a.m.
		Quite forgotten.
		Worldwide, live on the internet.
		We'll try and get that international phone number out.
		This night is a Friday night, Saturday morning, and it's going to be open live all night long.
		Who knows?
unidentified		We may open a men in black one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been threatening to do that for some time now.
		I would like to talk to, well, But a man in black might be kind of nice, so, you know, maybe we'll pull around with that a little bit.
		And whatever else might come up.
		In other words, I'm ready for anything.
		At the end of the week, it's been a pretty guest-driven show, so I would think a good night of open lines.
		And whatever might come up is in order.
		First of all, though, as you know, I don't have fan clubs.
		Don't want fan clubs.
		I have only one fan club, actually.
		That's, of course, the one headed by Barry Young down in Phoenix.
		Other than that, we have chat clubs.
		And these are places where people gather, not in the idea of a sort of a fan group or the worship of anybody, I don't want that, but rather to talk about the things that we talk about on this radio program.
		And here, Tim Cannon, as you know, he has some trouble with his jaw, and so he is temporarily out of business because you've got to be able to talk.
		So here is Bruce Kettler.
		Is that correct, Bruce?
		That is correct, sir.
		And where are you, Bruce?
		Are you in Denver?
unidentified		In Denver, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Home of the FIRST Chat Club.
unidentified		Yes, the FIRST Chat Club, the headquarters international.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give us an idea of what's going on.
unidentified		Okay, well, and David John Oates will be speaking in Portland, San Diego, and San Francisco.
		And the numbers are given for those clubs.
		Also, the newest chat clubs are San Diego, Dallas, and Chicago.
		And the numbers are given on the voicemail for those.
		And we're talking about chat clubs when you go to the website.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are beginning to proliferate, aren't we?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		We're proliferating.
		And by the way, that reminds me, if anybody is listening in England or in Australia or Canada and they want to start a chat club, by all means, you may do so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Very good.
		And they would call that same number in the U.S. Yes, that's correct.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, excellent.
		All right.
		Anything else?
		No.
		Sounds good.
		Thank you, Bruce.
		Take care.
		That's Bruce Kettler.
		and picking up for jim cannon and uh...
		uh...
		in the interim he's got Well, anyway, a very good evening to you.
		The news is pretty sparse.
		UPS, as you know, is continuing its five-day walkout.
		200,000 Teamsters choked off delivery of nearly 12 million packages every day across the U.S. Meanwhile, a Miami judge has granted UPS an injunction limiting picket lines to more than five people and barring the Teamsters from blocking entrances and exits.
		Now, the UPS strike is certainly beginning to take its toll on the economy.
		And most of you are out on the road, I know, you UPS drivers, the route drivers, when I'm on the air.
		And so you're home tonight.
		What are you doing?
		What are you doing with your time?
		Are you happy about the strike?
		Do you expect good things?
		Are you unhappy about not being at work?
		Do you think the strike is going to be worth it in the end?
		How long do you think it's going to go on?
		I know I've got a lot of UPS drivers that listen.
		It would be interesting to hear your point of view.
		The NIH, or National Institutes of Health, is saying that smoking marijuana can have healthy effects and that we need more studies.
		Hmm.
		Interesting.
		The rover is to hike a Martian hill.
		it has already yielded much more information than they thought would although there has been nothing there has been no great But thus far, the rover has not yielded any great scientific revelation about Mars, has it?
		They've got rocks.
		There's definitely rocks on Mars.
		So far, that would seem to be it, though.
		Here is a very, very interesting story.
		Now, in an attempt to get a realistic reply from the alleged theoretical circle makers, who may be theoretical aliens Visiting us who leave complicated patterns in wheat that exceed human ability to make due to size and complexity,
		get this a possible reply has been received in the very same wheat field in a large complicated formation which is pressed down wheat that is in elaboration on an existing formation located near Britain's famed Silbury Hill, an ancient earthen monument.
		The existing formation, three weeks old, is a large 250 feet star of David in fractal geometric style with 208 smaller circles pressed in at appropriate points around the star.
		The star has an incredible pattern of laying down of what precludes human means, in our subjective opinion.
		The new reply is a similar star, but with another star in it.
		In other words, a star inside a star.
		The possible answer, obviously, the makers come from the stars, a simple reply, but perhaps the beginning of a dialogue with alien beings without using billions of dollars in radio telescope time.
		So in other words, they sent a message with a crop circle, and they believe they have received a reply.
		Now, Peter Sorensen, Dr. Bruce McAbee, and a lot of other important people are involved in this.
		Really interesting.
		I'm just getting news of this as we're going on the air.
		And apparently, they sent a message to those who would create this, and the message was returned.
		Now, what do you make of that?
		Peter Sorensen and Dr. Bruce McAbee are both very well-respected in the field.
		And we have sent a message and apparently received an answer.
		Very interesting.
		Very, very interesting.
		All right.
		As I said, it's going to be just an open line night.
		I've got a bunch of other stuff here that I might drop in.
		Do you think I could get a man in black?
		Wouldn't that be interesting?
		Would a man in black talk?
		I'll try it.
		I'll try it.
		So I therefore restrict my normal first-time caller line, and I hereby make it a man-in-black line.
		Now, what is a man in black?
		I guess that's what we're going to find out.
		Men in black seem inclined to sort of come around and threaten, intimidate people who have seen things that they should not have seen, have things they shouldn't have, that sort of thing.
	So are there really men in black?
	And if there are, would one of you be so gutsy as to call a national radio show and admit your presence?
unidentified		Hmm?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if you are a man in black, and now I'm going to screen call, so don't just think you can come on here and be a jokester and black.
		The number to call is Area Code 7027271222.
		Everybody else needs to abandon that line.
		Because if you're not a man in black, you're going to be wasting your money.
		That is Area Code 7027271222.
		What a job to have.
		Can you imagine that?
		To be a man in black.
		Wonder how you get hired to do that.
		Do they go to college campuses and recruit men in black?
		I don't know.
		The whole thing, of course, is a giant mystery, so let's see what we can find out.
unidentified		BANG
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About two months ago, it was two months ago, CNN was here, and one night we did a show, or at least a portion of a show.
		No, it was pretty much a whole show, actually, on why people no longer trust their own government.
		It's a very, very serious and profoundly serious situation.
		And CNN was here filming.
		And they are taking parts of that, and I don't know what parts, because you never, never, never know what television is going to do.
		I mean, they go away with hours of film, and they reduce it down to minutes of film that consists of what they want.
		But we'll find out.
		It is on WTBS, and it conflicts with Dreamland.
		I can't believe that.
		It conflicts with Dreamland.
		So I'm going to be 7 o'clock Pacific Time, 10 o'clock Eastern Time.
		I will be on WTBS.
		The program is called Topics, and I don't know how much or how little they're going to use of what we did.
		If you were a caller, you might even hear yourself.
		It will be repeated at 11.50 p.m. Pacific time or 8.50 in the East.
		No, the other way around.
		2:50.
		So I would think the time to grab it for most of you would be 7 o'clock.
		And I will try and remind you of that as the night goes on.
		Check your TV guides for TBS.
		TBS, Mr. Ted Turner's broadcasting station, the super station.
		And I'm going to be surprised because I have no idea.
		I haven't seen it.
		And I don't know what they have done, but we'll find out.
		7 o'clock Pacific.
		That means it's on opposite 60 minutes and Dreamland.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		I'm calling for Laramie, Wyoming, which is right on top of the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		indeed uh...
unidentified		and you're the latest part of about your post right here Oh, yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The CIA has said that during the 50s and 60s, roughly half, at least, of the sightings were due to U-2s and a Blackbird aircraft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've heard it.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard that and sort of chuckled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really impressed.
unidentified		And also, I wanted to let you and Linda Howe know.
		I'm here at the University of Wyoming in June.
		The university reserves a whole week, sometimes two, on the study of geophones and brings experts in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's interesting to hear about it at that kind of level.
		Good.
		University of Wyoming, huh?
		I am interested in this crop circle.
		They have returned a message.
		In other words, they created a crop circle, and they got an answer.
		Now, these are pretty high-level researchers, personally.
		And it's tempting.
		Very tempting.
		They actually believe they have an answer.
		But what does that mean?
		They, in effect, completed a crop circle.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		It's Vince in Chicago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vince in Chicago.
		How am I doing?
		I'm doing all right, but I'm going to have to ask you to hold on.
		Can you hold tight?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Stand by, Vince.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		This is Premiere Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		on this, Somewhere in Time.
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		I cannot end the night.
		Looking up on the Facebook.
		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997, I've had a revelation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Came to me during this last break.
		Not only will I make this, and I've got my first Man in Black waiting, claimed man in black will be the judge of that.
		So we're going to make that a Man in Black line, a line for time travelers, or a line for anybody who claims to actually have a time machine.
		How about that for a combination line?
		Any men in black, any time travelers, or any person out there claiming to be an actual possessor of a time machine.
		I'd really like to talk to somebody with a time machine.
		I'd make it madman, but I'm afraid his time may be up if you follow me.
		So it's going to be an interesting evening.
unidentified		So it's going to be an interesting evening.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coast to Coast AM Now to Vince in Chicago.
		Sorry about that, Vince.
		I looked up at the clock and I went, whoa!
unidentified		Yeah, I'll call it time.
unidentified		Yeah, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
		Oh, oh, yeah.
		You know, you remember a while back, just to start out here, you remember the crazy glue incident that you had where you glued your lips together?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Vince.
unidentified		I thought that was so bizarre and very painfully funny that for your new listeners, maybe you should replay that sometime.
unidentified		That was just one heck of a piece of radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Vince, I think not quite enough time has gone between the incident and now for me to feel it's funny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was extremely painful.
unidentified		I related to that.
		That was really funny.
		That's when I first started listening to the program.
		Really?
		But on a more serious front, when Richard Holdman was on the program a few weeks ago, You know, that's why I said it was painfully funny, Art.
		You know, it was funny in a way, but I really...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I admit it's true.
		My wife, for example, she'll get up and she'll walk through the house and she will slam her toe into something, and I will fall on the floor just about laughing while she is absolutely rolling around in agony.
		What is it about us that makes us enjoy other people's pain?
unidentified		I don't know, but that little segment probably should be replayed for your audience because that was quite bizarre.
unidentified		But I have to ask you about Richard Hogan, his appearance on the show about the Twin Peaks on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		He was asking everybody to fax Ted Coppel and John Holloman.
		That's right.
		Have you heard anything from Richard about that?
		Has there been any response from NASA?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as usual, with Richard, I have received some startling new information.
		But I can't, you know, it's not up to me to put it on the air.
		I'm going to await Richard.
		So, yeah, there's news, but I can't.
		My lips are sealed as opposed to glued.
unidentified		I think Richard Holden is really onto something.
		A lot of people call him Richard Hoxland or whatever, but I'm buying into it.
		I really am.
		I believe that Richard Holden is really onto something.
		Another point here about Louis Farrakhan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm awaiting your interview, Art.
unidentified		I think you would do one heck of a job interviewing Louis Farrakhan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Since Brother Ali was on, there has been dead silence from the Nation of Islam.
		nary a word, nary a communication, nothing.
unidentified		Brother Ollie was quite unreasonable with you that night.
unidentified		You were giving the guy every chance to speak, and he was somehow saying that you weren't letting him finish or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's what he, I believe, that that's what his expectation was for the interview, that I wasn't going to let him speak.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And he came in with that chip on his shoulder, and that's too bad, but it's the way it worked.
unidentified		Speaking of Louis Farrakhan, was it Richard Hoagland at one time or one of your other guests that said that they had found a statue inside the Great Pyramid of Giza, one of the expeditions?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And uncovered a statue that looked like Louis Farrakhan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, they never said that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They said a black man.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's a long way from looks like Louis Farrakhan.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Just a black man in general.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holding in his hand an onk.
unidentified		Okay, you're doing a great job, and I know I'm personally responsible for at least 100 new listeners here in Chicago.
		Great job.
		And we're happy to have Dreamland now.
		Thank you.
		WLSAM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		Indeed, WLS, world's largest store, and you do now have Dreamland.
		And by Zive, speaking of Dreamland, coming up this week on Dreamland is Bud Hopkins, author of Witness, Missing Time, and Intruders.
		Bud Hopkins, who is at his retreat.
		I guess I won't say where because people will go bug him.
		But he's going to be on Dreamland this Sunday.
		First-time color line.
		Actually, my combination line, you claim to be a man in black.
		Is that correct?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		you can call me the auditor The auditor.
		The auditor.
		All right.
		What is...
unidentified		Well, he looks all around the field and sees how things are going, and then he reports back to the hierarchy how it's working out.
unidentified		We here...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As an auditor.
unidentified		Those that you saw in the movie, which was a hoot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see the movie.
unidentified		Okay, you didn't see it.
		That was a joke.
		That was propaganda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		But you're telling us there is no question about it.
		There are real men in black.
unidentified		I can only assume so from the case book of Men in Black and the author you had on the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought you just said you were a man in black.
unidentified		Yes, I am a man in black, but I'm a human one, and they are not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you are...
unidentified		Yes.
		You want to use a colour.
		I show a hierarchy whether or not their functions are functioning correctly and whether they need to be updated or not.
		They do need to be updated.
		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the men in black are not human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We frequently hear they don't have lips, for example.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they are biological combination biological robot-type things.
unidentified		Yes.
		Let's use the analogy of insects.
		They would be pupy drones who have had some samples of human genetic material impressed upon them for the temporary purpose of executing certain missions for the hierarchy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as auditor, you simply keep track of what they're doing, their job, whether they're doing it properly, whether they're functioning properly.
unidentified		yes and whether whether uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		society at large is is running on to bear onto what they're doing well the mere fact that i'm opening a line for men in black uh...
unidentified		obviously They've become so rickety and archaic.
unidentified		Their files are so full of holes that they need a new paradigm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So occasionally a man in black just like poops out and falls over or what?
unidentified		Well, look at the description of them.
		As you said, you gave the physical description.
		They look like they were just minted out of hatched out of an egg or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They wear old archaic clothes.
		They speak in stilted archaic language.
		They drive old cars and so forth.
		They're out of date.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're kind of like Commodore computers, the old Commodore 64.
unidentified		Yes, I have one too, the Executive 64, the Playboy Marvel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, thank you very much for your call.
		I don't know if I believe a word of what you said.
		But that is interesting.
		The Men in Black, he's the auditor.
		And they are out of date.
		And some of them are beginning to fail and not doing their jobs properly.
		How interesting.
		All right.
		I'm going to, once again, since I've got open lines, I am going to restrict my first time caller line to the following.
		Men in black, time travelers.
		Now, when I say time travelers, I mean real dial-twisting, lever-pulling, Orson-Wells-type time travelers.
		Not people who have gone in your mind, but people who have gone in machines only.
		Or people who possess or who are presently building a time machine.
		Any of those people can call area code 702-727-1222.
		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Is this Art Bell?
		Yes.
		Oh, my God.
		Okay.
		i'd like to ask you about um...
		your grand experiment from uh...
		a few months ago remember you're trying to get uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		the alien to uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We did it twice.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		You were trying to communicate telepathically with the aliens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And after both experiments, something occurred.
unidentified		I'd like to ask you, why do you think that they can read your thoughts?
unidentified		Where do you get that from?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, fine.
		It's a very good question, Actually, in nearly every story that you ever get of an encounter with a being, you know, whether it be an abduction or a close encounter or whatever it is, in almost every single case, the people will come back and say the communication was nonverbal, that it was telepathic.
		So based on that concept, if telepathy is the way they communicate, then imagine the power of millions of human minds projecting a single thought to them.
unidentified		I mean, it does make sense.
unidentified		Isn't that from the lyrics of a Carpenter song?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Polly and Occupants of Interplanetary Craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		Have you ever heard that song?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I recall some song like that, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But no, we don't sing it here.
unidentified		The whole concept sounded like it was paranoid schizophrenic or something.
		Really?
		The internal is schizophrenic, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, paranoid, schizophrenic things occasionally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's fun.
unidentified		It is.
unidentified		I'm addicted to your show, Hart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, you know, one paranoid, schizophrenic, crazy, absolutely nutty sounding idea might be the idea.
		They said, you know, that a lot of people who have come up with some of the very best inventions and ideas have been called crazy.
		So I guess it just depends on whether it works or not.
		If it doesn't work, it's paranoid and schizophrenic.
		If it works, it's absolute genius.
		Follow me?
unidentified		Yeah, that makes sense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		Have a good morning.
		And after both times, now you can say what you will, but after both attempts, there were occurrences beyond any shadow of a doubt.
		First in Phoenix, major sightings.
		And then within days of the second attempt, major sightings in Las Vegas.
		Well, say what you will.
		Now, the question is, dare we try it again?
		I'm not sure, but if we want to try and prove that we are not paranoid schizophrenics who wear aluminum foil hats, then yes, at some future point, in order to establish scientific method, you need repeatability.
		Which means that inevitably we will do it again, and I will pick the time.
		On my combo line, you're on the era.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's me, yes.
unidentified		This is the Men in Black timeline line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		I am calling you from a location that I cannot currently reveal tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We understand.
unidentified		Just hold on a minute.
		I've got a machine here I've got to check.
		All right.
		There we go.
		Now.
		You want to know about the Men in Black?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, do you claim to be a Man in Black?
unidentified		Not only am I a Man in Black, I've also traveled through time as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God, you qualify on both counts.
unidentified		That's why I got the...
unidentified		And I did know your show was going to be on tonight on this subject more than a year ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, a year ago.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		In August of 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the only way you could have known that was to have traveled to this very day and listened to the program.
unidentified		That is almost what happened.
unidentified		I'd actually come back to this time, and then I'd forgotten about it, and then I remembered it literally a few hours ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the cool thing about being able to travel in time, is even if you forget, presumably you can go back to whenever it was occurring.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
unidentified		I am prepared to answer any question whatsoever about the men in black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wonderful.
unidentified		Because, here's why.
		I have new information that the last caller didn't.
		I also know what the hierarchy is, and I can answer what the hierarchy is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, do you argue with or agree with the last caller's general assessment of the men in black?
unidentified		Unfortunately, yes.
unidentified		And the situation has deteriorated to the point to where there was an actual war last year near Rio in South America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes, it was between the men in black and the women in black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		War of the sexes.
unidentified		No, not exactly.
unidentified		What happened was that the men in black had actually got out of control.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess you call them men in black, so they are men.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now you're saying there are women in black.
unidentified		Yes, but they don't really want to come here.
		They're the ones that were originally created the men in black, and then they controlled the men in black.
		But then the men in black slowly got out of control on just this planet.
		But they're actually on several thousand planets men in black are working for the women in black back on their planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to tell me that the women eventually, in time, become dominant?
unidentified		On Earth, yes, again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the general job description of a man or woman in black, and what differences in job descriptions would there be?
unidentified		All you have to do to be a woman in black, first of all, you can't be from Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		They can only be of the hierarchy back home.
		The men in black can be almost anyone, except they have to be very loyal, and that's hard.
		Anybody can lie, see.
		But that's not always...
		One of them is the reverse speech thing.
		What's his name, John Oates?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dave John Oates, that's right.
unidentified		He's not the Holland Oates guy, is he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holland Oates?
		No, not the Holocaust.
		No, no.
		What we hear, what is the job of a man in black?
		We hear they are here to retrieve alien artifacts, any evidence.
unidentified		Okay, first of all, the man in black, why are they here?
unidentified		The main thing is, is that that thing that crashed in Roswell in 1947, it was meant to be, it was dropped on purpose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dropped.
unidentified		First of all, back where it came from.
		It was stripped of all the high technology.
		It was filled with lesser advanced technology.
		It was brought to Earth, dropped here on purpose.
		Now, when this happened, it was made to look like an accident.
		So all the technology that was supposed to be developed, but could not be, would be wired over time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Distributed, no doubt, by Colonel Corsau and others.
unidentified		Yes, but the men in black were here to make sure that the United States is the only country that got the technology.
unidentified		That's why the men in black are here to keep the Roswell technology from getting into other countries' hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the men in black favorite favor the United States.
unidentified		There's a reason for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which is the is it because we're so good?
unidentified		No, not really.
		Unfortunately, they would have to support you no matter what you did.
		And that is because the men in black are operating from the hierarchy, and the hierarchy are telling them to help to recreate the Roman Empire in the modern era on Earth.
		And it's been chosen that America shall be that equivalent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll be doggone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've seen one on the way.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And not only that, Richard Hoagland should be given some kind of medal of some kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean beyond the angstrom?
unidentified		Yes, because he has discovered the secret of everything.
		The secret is the 19.5.
		History is repeating itself every 19.5 centuries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how could the men in black allow Richard allow Richard to get this information out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, wouldn't they normally walk in and grab him by his whiskers and drag him?
unidentified		You bet they would, but there is something that has happened that changes everything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is?
unidentified		The hierarchy has been taken over by a new leader, and she's decided that the information shall now be told to the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, in other words, the mission of the men in black has actually been changed by her.
unidentified		Yes.
		And I can tell you all about it.
		If we had some more time, I can tell you.
		I can answer anything you need to know about the future or anything else.
		I can answer it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't possibly reject an offer like that.
unidentified		Nothing turned down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will the men in black budget allow you to hold on through the news?
unidentified		Money is no object.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Money is no object.
unidentified		Hasn't been for a very long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All these taxpayers out here know that.
		All right, then, hold on.
		We'll be back with a man in black.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		Ooh, and it's on Alright, it's coming up.
		We've got to get right back to where it's done.
		Nothing's good, nothing's wrong.
		We got to get right, that's where we started from Do you remember that?
		The day it struck me when you first made my way.
		I said, No one could take your place.
		Get hurt if you get hurt.
		I don't even think that.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 8th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time color line, what normally is.
		Tonight is being reserved for men in black, time travelers, and anybody out there building a time machine.
		It is a multi-purpose line.
		And we have on the line right now a man in black who says money is no object.
		He can hang on.
		So I may even let the audience grill him if he sounds good.
		We're going to get back to him in a moment.
		Well, I'll tell you, you can find anything on these phone lines.
		Even men in black.
		Anyway, I just got a fact.
		Here is the latest Koch Fractal Crop formation you mentioned.
		Photos should be on the Connector website soon.
		A number of other new formations as well, plus at least 38 new circles now in Holland as of 31 July.
		And that's from Paul Anderson, Director of Circles Phenomenon Research in Canada.
		Paul, if you know anything about this, this is apparently an answer.
		The news I've got here, which references Peter Sorensen and Dr. Bruce McAbee, is that we apparently have received an answer to a crop circle.
		This is something brand new.
		So anybody with definitive information, fax me your phone number and I'll give you a call.
		My fax number is area code 702-727-8499.
		702-727-8499.
		And this is absolutely fascinating.
		Can you imagine that, folks?
		We may have received an answer.
		In other words, we, I guess, created a crop circle missing One piece or part, and there was an answer, filling that in.
		That's absolutely incredible to contemplate, isn't it?
		But it does look as though it has occurred.
		So, there you are.
		Let's see, what do I have to do?
		I know I've got something I've got to do.
		Yes, I do.
		Here it is.
		And it's coming right up.
		And then we're going to get back to our man in black.
		And if I think he really sounds as good as he was sounding before the top of the hour, I may open the lines and let you ask him a question or two.
unidentified		Groan
		You are listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back now to my man in black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you there?
unidentified		Stand by.
		Volume reduction, please.
		Okay, I had to make sure the radio was done.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
unidentified		This other machine isn't bothering me, isn't it?
unidentified		Can you hear anything else?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's funny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said earlier you were going to turn that machine off.
unidentified		And it's on again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's on again, and there is a little background noise associated with the machine.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's tolerable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, so there are men in black.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they're ruled by a woman in black.
unidentified		Well, yeah, you could say that.
unidentified		Well, I mean, she doesn't wear black all the time, but more or less.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the main job of the men in black is to.
unidentified		Oh, you're asking me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you're the men in black, I mean.
unidentified		Right, well, their main deal is that they were the earliest creation of the men in black would have to go back to 1925.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
unidentified		That was the year of the Leeds crash in Leeds, England.
unidentified		Do you know anything about a UFO crash at Leeds, England in 1925?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do recall something about that, yes.
unidentified		All right, there was this major crash.
		And believe it or not, that is where the world here, anyhow, gets television from.
		There wasn't much else left on that crash.
		It could be derived from it.
		But you are aware of the so-called alien autopsy or the Race Antille film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen it.
unidentified		Yes, I saw it about 11 years ago.
		Actually, I was seeing it in this time, but that's another story.
		The alien autopsy, I've seen a color print of it.
		It was taken two weeks after Pearl Harbor on December 21st, 1941.
		It was taken, I think, somewhere near London, and it was of the aliens from the 1925 Leeds crash.
		Now, how that got leaked out and got Roswell stamped on, I'll never know.
		Because the Roswell creatures, if you want to call them that, so we won't reveal too much, what the heck.
		The Roswell creatures were actually human fetuses that were taken from Earth at about the turn of the century.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
unidentified		And they were grown on this planet.
unidentified		I don't suppose you ever heard of it, the planet Lanulos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say that again?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The planet.
unidentified		The planet Lanulos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lanulos.
unidentified		Yes, it's in the constellation Tairos.
		And it's about, let's see, how far is that?
		It's about 400 light years.
		But they can get here in about 20 minutes.
		100 years ago, it took about an hour, so it's been a few improvements.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can see that.
unidentified		At any rate, there's no time dilation or anything.
		They use inverted relativism and a quantum distortion field.
		It's very simple stuff, really.
		Anyhow, the crash in 1925 in Leeds, England.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It was not from Lenulos.
		It was someone from another solar system that had no business being here.
		Well, everything, the technological thing was thrown off a little bit.
		Earth people were finding out a little too much.
		So the hierarchy got to thinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, in other words, an infusion of some technology was all right, but it was beginning to occur too quickly.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And then they got the idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The men in black.
unidentified		Well, we want to recreate the Roman Empire in the modern world on Earth, but we need it to be precisely correct.
		And then somebody got to thinking.
		They got the great idea.
		Why don't we scratch Rome, redo Atlantis?
		Atlantis had technology, so why don't we just make America like Atlantis then?
		And that's what they've been doing very hard.
		And one humorous note was what Teddy Roosevelt did in 1898.
		You recall Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders going to Cuba in 1898.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Has anyone out there noticed that this is an almost precise duplication of Roman events 19.5 centuries earlier when Julius Caesar invaded Britain in the 50s B.C.?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And going back to your comments with respect to Richard Hoagland, he is then in a way an ally of the men in black.
unidentified		He probably doesn't realize it.
		But see, that raises a good question.
		There is a lot of possibilities with Richard Hoagland.
		Could he have, in fact, been contacted somehow and remembers it and just isn't saying because he thinks it might ruin his career?
		Could it be that he's contacted and it's mid-made to forget it, but not the information?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Richard Hoagland, with regard to his career, is obviously fearless.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we've proven that.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
		He is very good at this.
		Now, early on, he was a little scary.
		I remember years ago, he scared me a lot because the rapid rate he was developing.
		And it wasn't that I was afraid of his information or personally, I wasn't even afraid of it coming out to the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if Richard had begun to move too fast, the men in black certainly would have had to slow him down.
unidentified		You know, it's funny, if they had been doing their job, unfortunately for him, he wouldn't even have been alive years ago.
		But they were so busy deteriorating that they couldn't do what they were supposed to do.
		And he was able to go on and do his thing.
		And when we got the new Supreme Commandant in Omanua.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Supreme Commandant?
unidentified		That's English.
unidentified		That's the closest English translation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to put this out in a way that we can all grasp.
unidentified		Yeah, maybe Supreme Commander, but Commander has other connotations like lower rank people can be called Commanders, or even a Captain would be above them.
unidentified		For example, did I tell you what my rank I was?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did not, but I'm certainly curious.
unidentified		Mission Commander.
unidentified		And very recently, just May 27th of this year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
unidentified		I really didn't want it.
		I'm one of the few of them that apparently gets merit, loyalty merits by supposedly acting like they don't deserve the promotion.
		But in my rare exception, I really didn't want it.
		Because when you get promoted, you have more responsibilities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there a choice?
unidentified		Oh, no, absolutely not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you really couldn't.
unidentified		No, you can turn it down the first time.
		Then you have one cut-un to Mayan calendar, but the scientists that translate the Mayan calendar really have it all wrong.
		A cut-tun is not 20 years, like they say.
		It's really 5.4223 years.
		That's roughly rounding it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I must say you've got your act together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would like to expose you to some of my audience.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		And anytime you want to take a pause from that and ask me a question about the future, anything in general.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you could literally tell us anything about the future?
unidentified		You would be surprised.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet I would.
unidentified		Later on, I'll tell you something.
		Later on, if I forget it, remind me.
		What is the president doing with the timeline recordings?
		Now, I'll save that little nugget for later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Timeline recordings.
unidentified		It's a long story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		All right, let me put you in touch with some of our audience.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air with my man in black.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Dave from Gary, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dave.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm all right.
unidentified		Yeah, we're kind of shocked tonight.
unidentified		The question I have is, what does the Phoenix incident have to do with all this, or does it have anything to do with all this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you asked.
		Man in black?
		Man in black?
		Where'd he go?
		Oh, we lost our man in black.
unidentified		Dropped off, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I did it when I came to you.
		Damn.
		He was good.
unidentified		I hope we can get him back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Doggone it.
		Doggone it anyway.
		I forgot to push.
		See, I've got to push a conference button unless I've got a special guest set up.
		And he just came in, you know, roaring in on my line.
		Oh, man.
unidentified		I hope he calls back because I'd be real curious to see what Phoenix says all about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Total bummer.
		All right, look, when he calls back, I'm confident he will.
		It may be a while.
		I will ask that question for you.
unidentified		Great, I appreciate it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		You see, normally when I have a guest, I put them on a very special line and then put a VIP lock on that line.
		Oh, I can't believe I did that.
		And on the line he was on, I could have conferenced him with other callers, but I screwed up.
		Oh, man, he was the best man in black so far, too.
		On my combo line, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, this is guess who?
		you made it back.
		Oh man, you don't know what I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I am suspicious of the fact that you were able to get back in at all.
unidentified		I can explain this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That alone indicates a technology far surpassing that of the average caller.
unidentified		Yes, and that machine was not what helped me do it.
unidentified		The machine, although I'm starting to wonder about it, is nothing more than a mere vacuum compression unit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		What do you call it, an air conditioner?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's all it is.
unidentified		I was just turning it off occasionally so it wouldn't make a noise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's very honest of you.
unidentified		Have you got the right button this time there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		But I am.
		So I was so disappointed.
unidentified		I really was afraid that somebody somewhere was coming after me on that one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
		The man asked about Phoenix.
		I know that, just a little bit of that.
		Now, the Phoenix lights are one of the most confusing hotly debated things in recent times.
		Can you tell us what you know about the Phoenix lights?
unidentified		I know everything about them.
		I just don't know where to start.
		Where would you have me start?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how about what the hell was it?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		It was a carrier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A carrier?
unidentified		Yes.
		It's got these things inside of it.
		Small scout craft, you might.
		See, I'm trying to translate this into English.
		it's quite difficult.
		But...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It had, in other words, it, just like from our terrestrial movie ID4, it could have...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you said it had smaller scout craft, and I had other ships in ID4 had smaller craft.
unidentified		But ID4, you know, in ID-4, they were so large.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		I'm thinking, no, not that large.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the answer is it was definitely a craft.
unidentified		Oh, yes, and it was as big as they think it was.
		It was kilometers.
		Let's see here.
		Let's see.
		What is the translation?
		I think you'd say about one and a half kilometer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why Phoenix?
unidentified		Oh, boy.
		I knew you were going to answer that.
		Ask that.
		That's the right answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Phoenix.
		I'm so glad somebody brought that up, or it could have missed me on that.
		Skip my mind or whatever you want to call it.
		Sooner or later, the truth has to come out.
		Right.
		It might as well be now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it right here on the radio.
unidentified		This is the 12th year of the new age, so it's as good a time as any.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's about time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The people need to know.
unidentified		It's a real doozy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It starts, and I'll make a 30-second intro of the explanation and get to the main part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The second-level question.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		It begins in 1947.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Roswell crime.
unidentified		Right.
		Now, you know how that happened and all that.
		I don't have to go through any of that.
		I know everybody listening knows about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've already done it, yes.
unidentified		Right.
		Been there, done it.
		I could go into great detail, but I just don't.
		Yes.
		Okay, it was a, let's see, The main craft crashed in Paradise Valley to the north of Phoenix.
		And that, too, was staged.
		It was all staged.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		The thing going over...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we're here.
unidentified		We're here.
		Got to turn that machine back on.
		The air's humidity is too high in here.
		It'll affect this equipment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Reactualize.
		Yes.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can hear it.
		All right.
		Continue.
unidentified		Now, I'm a cappuccino here.
unidentified		Got to stay awake, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sense you're stalling here.
unidentified		Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
		Really?
		I'm trying to put it in the proper order.
		The Paradise Valley crash of 1947.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That was staged, and there was a survivor on it, although she is the one that is controlling the men in black now.
		Although she was the lower-ranking official at that time.
		And she was sent here to deliver a message to Earth about the new age and everything.
		How, you know, in short, we better get it all together before 1986 or it's all over.
		And she was thoroughly rejected as was her message, even though she met with the Majestic and it didn't do any good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, but you digress.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We want to know why Phoenix.
unidentified		Oh, you're asking why Phoenix?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why Phoenix?
unidentified		The Phoenix Whites or Phoenix in general?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why have this craft appear above Phoenix?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it just, to a lot of people, it seems very strange that a craft like this would appear above a major metropolitan area.
unidentified		The reason is they're trying to tell you that Phoenix is very important for the future.
		They're also trying to remind you, they're trying to, let me see if I can put this in the proper words.
		They're doing it at the time that they did it.
		Because on March 13th, to us on Earth, you might think it means nothing.
		But on their calendar that they're using, it means it was the first day of a particular month that they were using on their calendar.
		They chose that particular time to come here and sort of like remind people that Phoenix needs to be looked at again.
		And when later in time, when the correct number of decades have passed, there will be new information revealed when the government declassifies about the Paradise Valley crash of 47.
		People will look at this and they'll say, yes, they were trying to remind us to look back at Phoenix.
		They're trying to get you to look at it so you will discover the earlier stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not sure that I'm fully satisfied with that answer.
unidentified		Oh, there's more.
unidentified		There's much more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be a second level.
unidentified		Yes, there's many.
		I just don't, I mean, when it comes to Phoenix, there is a certain level of something that I can't really say, but I may be able to reveal it, but I'm concerned what people will say.
		But I'll say it anyway.
		I guess I'll just tell it all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please, I mean, we really, the people of Phoenix.
unidentified		There's no point.
unidentified		After all, like I said, there's no point in holding back any longer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then let's have it.
unidentified		The truth of the matter is, Phoenix is being prepared to be one of the provincial capitals of Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		The hierarchy is here doing it, and the men in black are trying to cover up what the hierarchy is doing.
		The women in black are working very hard on this.
		There'll be a day when the earth is split into provincial zones and Phoenix will be one of the capitals.
		And in that time they're going to arrange to have by that time, a little after that time, there'll be some things discovered on Mars which will take us and explain the world of Atlantis in that time.
		You will be able to find out about things from the time of Atlantis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, all of this is in some way connected to Phoenix that is going to be a new capital.
unidentified		No, it'll be a provincial capital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me.
unidentified		A sub-capital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A sub-capital.
unidentified		Then Washington will eventually, the plan is to move the capital of Washington officially to Helsinki, Finland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
		But Washington will continue on as a quasi-important place.
		You know, even the British Empire is not existing anymore, but London is still important in its own way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is the compensation pay, whatever it is you get for being a man-in-black, good?
unidentified		Very.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very?
		One would expect so, particularly with your rank.
		All right, hold on a moment.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		on this Somewhere in Time.
		Music
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		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've done it on me of a man in black, and I'm going to let him answer a few more questions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then we're going to talk to a guy who says he manufactures and distributes time machines.
unidentified		Oh my.
		Oh my.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
		Our man in black is back.
		Are you there?
unidentified		I'm here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We're going to have to ask you some rapid-fire questions because we've got a time machine guy waiting.
		All right.
		First of all, somebody wants to know, what are crop circles?
unidentified		Crop circles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They are intended for the time being.
		All they want you to do is just copy them all down.
		Whatever you do, make sure you get a record of these things in their entirety, get them in the correct order that they appeared in, and store them somewhere to where you can get to them later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what you're saying is later, at some point when we have enough of them stored in sequence, they'll all make sense.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		But when you get the information brought back from, I guess I can say it, Sidonia, you will have the ability to put it all together then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		And I can tell you what year it is, if you were interested.
		Please?
		Let's see, that would be dating from 2012 to, you know, it's Excuse me, revolution?
		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there going to be a revolution?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When?
unidentified		It begins in the year 2019.
unidentified		And the revolution...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		2018.
unidentified		Yeah, August, I think.
unidentified		No, September the 15th?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		September the 15th.
unidentified		2018.
unidentified		And the revolution is going to be what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, is it you're talking about a revolution in America, worldwide, or what?
unidentified		It's just in America.
		It's nothing much.
		It's just where you have about four presidents in one year.
		It's nothing serious, really.
		It's results when you get a Canadian enforcement group that comes down and reorganizes the government.
		It's nothing really serious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're in the Canadians come down and take control?
unidentified		Oh, no, it's okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, every fear I ever had is coming true.
unidentified		They're part of the U.S. by then.
unidentified		You see, World War III is really tied into the revolution here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		World War III?
unidentified		Yeah, but don't worry about it.
unidentified		It's not as bad as it sounds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		We're short on time here, so Wildcard Line, you're on the air with my man in black.
		Hello.
		Are you there?
		Yeah, can I use my chat room handle?
		Well, yeah, sure.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Jame here in Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I always want to say hi to everybody in the chat room, one thing black.
unidentified		I was wondering if your guest knew anything about what was going to happen in the year 2000 on May the 5th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be the planetary alignment.
unidentified		Well, I didn't want to tell him that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Well, all right, sorry.
		You already know that he's a man in black.
		All right, so how about it?
unidentified		Well, all that really is going to happen is that there are going to be a magnetic fluctuation in the polar magnetic alignment thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And it's going to be pretty intense.
		But the interesting thing is, is that on that date, there's going to be a convenient solar flare.
		And when this solar flare happens, the government is going to explain it as just a solar flare, so don't worry about it.
		And meanwhile, they're going to have everything monitoring this.
		They're going to cover it up until after another revolution happens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what they said last time.
		They said it's just a solar flare.
		Don't worry about it.
unidentified		Is it the last time?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we had one not long.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with my men in black.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Ark.
unidentified		This is Greg from Pittsburgh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		You had interviewed a man who wrote a book on the men in black, and he had said, told a story on how the men in black killed Barney Hill.
unidentified		And I want to know if it's true, and if it is true, why did they take him out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I seem to recall a story about a penny or some change in his hand, and they didn't kill him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They threatened.
unidentified		They did not kill the doctor, but they said if they made all this war.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		Stop, stop.
		What they said, they made the coins in his hand literally disintegrate, and then they said this could happen to your heart.
unidentified		And this is what we did to Barney Hill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess they did say that, yes.
unidentified		So what about it, M.I.B. Yeah, I even know the guy that said that and did that.
unidentified		He's Commander Kronar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that is an absolutely legit story.
unidentified		Unfortunately, yeah, that was in the old days when they thought they could gain some kind of control through the CIA of America.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we've got to leave it there, but I really, really appreciate your call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you are ready.
unidentified		Where'd we go?
unidentified		I'd like to give you my number off the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm the only one here.
		I don't have the facility to do that.
		You can fax it to me or email it to me, though.
unidentified		No, I can't use those things because there may be a monitoring of the situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In that case, call me after I'm off the air.
unidentified		Do you want to know what Clinton is doing with your timeline thing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're damn right I do.
unidentified		He is taking it every morning after the timeline, and his experts are reversing it to see if they can hear reversals in the voice of the timeline callers to find out about the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you afraid of David Oates?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why should I be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if I were to sick David Oates on what you've just done, you wouldn't be in fear?
unidentified		That's funny you should ask that.
unidentified		I was informed to ask you to do just that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you have no fear at all of being reversed.
unidentified		Not only do I have nothing to hide, but as the years go on, there is much more that I am going to reveal.
		I may, I may write a book even.
		Wow.
		It needs to be gotten out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		M-I-B, thank you.
		And contact me off the air with your phone number, and we will pursue you.
		That was pretty cool.
		A man in black.
		Kind of sounded like he had his back together, didn't he?
		I don't know.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the error.
		Hello there.
unidentified		The radio's turned down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You claim that you are the manufacturer and distributor of time machines.
unidentified		Indeed, Mr. Bell.
		We've spoken a few times in the past.
		I've never revealed what it is that I do exactly.
		I'd like to call myself the founder for the purposes of our phone call this evening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'll try and remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The founder.
unidentified		The founder is a good way to go for now, although it may become more public in the future.
		Now, my time machines have a limited amount of history.
		They've been operating nationally and internationally for six years.
		They were first developed in 1991 in Colorado, and they were first distributed in Boulder.
		Really?
		And you can now find people with my time machines in Boulder, in Phoenix, in California, in San Francisco, Santa Cruz, down in Los Angeles, as well as up in Eugene.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't we hear about them?
unidentified		Well, some things that are going to be around a long time, they don't take prominent stature for a period of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much is your machine?
unidentified		Well, I have distributed 60,000 of these machines one at a time over the planet in the last six years, ranging at a cost of from $100,000 to free.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$100.
unidentified		$100 for the biggest, most intricate, and free for some of the smaller ones.
unidentified		I am creating a foundation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What kind of time machine could you get for free?
unidentified		Well, one, to help you...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do remember that.
unidentified		I do remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a hard time contemplating any machine.
unidentified		You never forget the truth.
unidentified		So when somebody says something like that, that's the truth and they believe it, just like Jonathan would say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
unidentified		That's why you remember it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, free.
		I mean, a piece of cardboard.
		What could it be for free?
unidentified		Well, what I have is a device that's handheld and operable by any person with hands.
		And actually, there's people without hands that have them as well.
		Just to prove me, you know, if I say just hands, then of course the people with no hands are going to take offense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it basically an electronic device?
unidentified		It may involve electric type energies, but our understanding of energy is kind of limited at this point.
		Like, for instance, the energy that makes our mind work.
		You know, we can measure it, but we haven't quantified it.
		Let me say this.
		My devices embody balance, unity, harmony, contrast, and order, as well as torque, cycle, process, friction, and leverage to enable a person to either go forward with their thoughts or go backwards with their thoughts.
		And I realized that you specified on the time machine line, you know, only physical devices that transport people.
		That's why I called in on a different line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, your time machine is a mental adjunct.
unidentified		It's a physical object.
		It is a hand-held thing with moving parts interlocked into a combination that creates a frame of reference that is in excess of what we currently understand.
		I'm going to pop a phrase here that I've never heard anybody except me discuss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And here it is.
unidentified		It's CPT, cyclical process technologies.
		They are going to change the way people look at time because when you're standing in line or you're in traffic or you're on the bus or you're downloading from your computer, circumstances are beyond your control.
		All people want in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Especially in traffic when you're behind somebody doing about 40 in a 45 zone, you know.
unidentified		In a geo.
		I'm just kidding, just kidding, just kidding.
		I've been listening for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell.
unidentified		Yeah, and I could get in every night, literally, and I could prove it to you.
unidentified		I mean, I vote seven nights in a row if you want me to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't like nasty cracks about geos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's something I should tell you up front.
unidentified		Well, I knew that, and that's kind of why I said it, just as a little, but I took it back right away.
		I was just kidding.
		I don't have any problem with geos.
		They're a good car as far as the internal combustion engine is concerned.
		But really, we need to get beyond that, in my opinion.
		So now here's the thing, Art.
		There's listeners to your show that recognize my voice, and they know exactly who I am, and they know because they have the machine in their pocket right now, standing behind the counter at the convenience store, sitting in the gas station in Las Vegas, right there, right on Monaco Boulevard.
		They're all over.
		They're all over the place.
		People will confirm my stories over a period of time because they'll recognize my voice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
unidentified		I want to send you one of my machines.
unidentified		And it could allow you to take control over some of the things that you've been working on for a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much difference in function is there between one that you would give away for free, something I find hard to believe, and one that costs $100?
unidentified		Well, it has to do with intricacy, and it has to do with the method of operation.
unidentified		In the cyclical process technology realm, I have developed over 30 different devices that allow a person through mind over matter to achieve the passage of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, here's the thing.
		I have always worried about this with time travel.
		And that is that if you were to go way back into the past or way up into the future, there is no guarantee that you would not materialize inside something like a mountain or where a building once was or in the middle of a building, God help you, or something awful like that.
		And it seems to me that a free device is more likely to scatter you in that fashion.
		and for a hundred bucks it's worth making sure that you are you know land in a in a relatively safe place well let me say it's not so much the physical displacement that that is is um...
unidentified		I'm seeking to get away from the place that I'm at.
		So that is where the paradigm is different for me from most other time machine people.
		We'll have a lot of people call in that say they built something in their backyard.
		That's not what I'm saying.
		The real brief, this is the longest I've ever been on the air, and frankly, I'm amazed that you've let me on this long.
		Although I realize what I'm saying is shocking and almost revelatory in nature.
		It is.
		Let me say this.
		In 1990, I was riding my bike, and my chain broke.
		And when I put the new chain on my bike, I had a couple extra links because it wasn't quite long enough to put them in my pocket.
		I went off to my meeting, delayed and frustrated.
		And when I got to the meeting, I reached in my pocket and I started playing with these couple links of chain.
		Now, just bear with me one second here.
		I took the two links, one pin link in the middle, so you have two pins, and then you have four rollers, four roller links, and I attached a keyring in through the middle of both of the roller links.
		So it created an object that I called a fidget.
		There, I've said the word fidget.
		Now, these fidgets, as you move it back and forth, it will never break, wear out, or fail.
		It will work the same for everybody, regardless of age, national, creed, religion.
		And I'll guarantee you that in the next coming weeks, you will get calls from fidget holders all over the country and maybe even all over the world because I have sent them to 30 different countries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		The fidget then is actually the device that allows this to occur.
		Is that correct?
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		It's the first cyclical process technology object that will not break, fail, or wear out in a given lifetime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, then.
		What is a $100 fidget?
		I mean, I can now understand why a fidget would be basically inexpensive.
		Is your $100 fidget gold-plated or something, or what?
unidentified		Picture a flexible structure that can lay flat, can curl up into a ball, can change into any form or shape at will as the commander commands the thing to do, as you manipulate it with your hand.
		And then as you look at the object and as you receive the light impulses that come off of them, it's quite soothing to your mind.
		You're able to relax and lose track of time, which enables you to get out of the painful time and move into, hopefully, a pleasurable time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I have asked you, though, you did not answer.
		I apologize.
		In other words, it is a very simple device.
		You have to do it.
unidentified		Labor-intensive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's labor-intensive.
unidentified		It is the amount of work that I have to put into it.
		A little fidget, I can make 60 of them an hour.
		It's changed my whole economic picture.
		I walk into a bike store.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I want to know what is the difference between a free fidget and a $100 fidget.
unidentified		Well, the $100 fidget specifically that I was thinking of when I said that took me 12 hours to build.
unidentified		The $1 fidget took me 15 seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, that clears it up for me.
		I appreciate your call, and I'm going to now listen for others who are fidget holders and who can confirm or deny your story.
		I mean, you said I will hear from many, many people who have these fidgets, and we'll see.
		What a night.
		All right.
unidentified		we're going to break here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've been asked to play this by so many people.
		I love this thing.
		You know what it is, don't you?
		The theme from the movie Top Gun.
unidentified		Watching every motion in my foolish love is gay.
		All this telling ocean finally love is no shame.
		listen to the reference to a secret place in time It's right in, the trip back in time continues, with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More somewhere in time coming up.
		Take my breath away.
		Take my breath away.
		I'm watching, I keep waiting.
		Still anticipating love.
		Never hesitate to become the favorite one.
		Trying to return to some secret place in my life.
		I'm watching, I'm watching, I'm watching.
		I'm watching, I'm watching.
		I'm watching.
		Thank you.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We are back.
		Might have time.
unidentified		We're doing more or less nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's Friday night, Saturday morning, and I'm sort of laying back.
		Now look, we've got one special line open for weirdness.
		Well, heightened weirdness.
		How about that?
		It's normally our first-time caller line, but tonight it is reserved for people in the following categories.
		Men in black.
		We've already had several.
		Time travelers, or those in possession of a time travel machine.
		Otherwise, anything you want to talk about is fair game.
		And we will get back to all of this wherever it is we're going in a moment.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there are new photographs on my website, including one of Daniel Brinkley when he was here, Richard Hoagland when he was here, Mr. 19.5.
		Photographs of mundane things like our garden, our very proud garden here at the house.
		But most of all, there is a photograph.
		My wife took it.
		I give her full credit.
		I merely scanned it.
		Probably the most unusual photograph that I've ever seen.
		We may even submit it to National Geographic or something.
		It occurred when the storms were here, and there was a large double rainbow.
		It was beautiful.
		Beautiful.
		And suddenly there was a gigantic bolt of lightning, and my wife was using ASA 400 film, and no time...
		A time exposure.
		She just went out there and clicked the camera and she happened to catch this incredible double rainbow with a bolt of lightning going right through it.
		It is one of the most remarkable photographs I've ever seen.
		You'll see a little portion of my property there.
		And it is simply a one.
		It's like hitting the lottery or something.
		God, what a beautiful photograph that is.
		Take a look.
		I would very much like to know what you think of it.
		That's up there.
		All kinds of new stuff on the website.
		Including the Pear Ink software that we talked about last night.
		We've got that up on our website now.
		Anyway, one other item, and then it's back to the phones, and that is I'm going to be on TV this Sunday at 7 o'clock Pacific Time, WTBS or TBS, the Super Station.
		It's a program called Topics, and they were here filming for hours.
		Generally, I found that CNN was here, and I found that they film for hours, and then they use only minutes.
		It's going to be a one-hour program on conspiracies in America.
		Old and new.
		And I would suspect some of you might be actually heard because they were recording call-ins when we did a show on this very topic.
		Why people distrust the government.
		And so look, I have no idea what they've done.
		I just know in all likelihood you will see my shiny face.
		And you May even hear yourself.
		So I don't know.
		7 o'clock Pacific obviously would be 10 o'clock Eastern on WTBS.
		And I understand it's going to be repeated at 11.50 p.m. Pacific on Sunday or about 2.50 in the morning.
		That would be actually Monday morning Eastern time.
		That's WTBS, so you might want to take a look.
		First time caller line, actually YMIB align, young man in black line, you're on the air.
		Good evening.
		Good evening.
		Morning, actually.
		Morning and mostly.
		You are a young man in black?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to speak up.
unidentified		Okay, how's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get close to your phone.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How young are you?
unidentified		24.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is young.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For a job with this kind of weighty.
unidentified		It's not that intense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It isn't?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is for those of us who have to see you.
unidentified		Well, you know.
		I mean, if you attach that stigma to it, and you don't consider it a stigma to go around freaking people out?
		Well, I think that's only one small portion of what they, and I do say they, in so much as it is not a singular unit with only one task.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean men in black do good stuff, like helping old ladies across the street, going to bake sales, that sort of thing?
unidentified		Well, imagine your first caller this evening, the first man in black.
		His entire operations, his entire servitude is based on auditing, saying, what should we do?
		What should we not do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he said he was not exactly a man in black, but an auditor, he called himself.
		And he said the men in black, those without lips, you know, the really horrible ones, were getting old.
		And rickety.
unidentified		And he himself falls into the category of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Getting old and rickety.
unidentified		And also the second one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only a 24-year-old would say that.
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so look, as a young man in black, what do you consider the next generation of men in black, a generation X-ray man-in-black, I guess, huh?
		What is your job?
		How does it differ from the men in black of old?
unidentified		Well, it has to do with operations protocol.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		The actual mechanism by which we interface with this tangible reality, the material consequential reality, we call it.
		The older generation were using what we call SOPs, service operations protocol.
		Their entire function is to fulfill obligation, to be given an objective and then to fulfill that objective.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just like a robot.
unidentified		A very sophisticated biological robot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fine.
unidentified		without lips well i don't i don't i think i think the ones without lips were very very early infected and that and by the time they realize in fact Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What you said, insectoids.
		And so you are now a later, much later breed of man in black.
		And how has the mission changed?
		In other words, what do you do today that they did not do then?
unidentified		Okay.
		I am what we call a POP.
		And it's a pleasure operations protocol.
		It's not a service-orientated.
		I'm a free, supported biological entity.
		I don't have to be part of a hive.
		I don't have to be part of a collective.
		I also use non-axiomatic biointerface protocols, which means that I don't have a series of lists.
		Like a service-orientated unit has a task and then has a series of axiomatic protocols which allow it to accomplish its task.
		i don't have that and many of the young generation even the young generation It makes you sound like a gigolo.
		A giggolo?
		Well, pleasure-oriented what?
		Protocol.
		Pleasure-operations protocol.
		It means the fundamental circuit of my cognitive dynamic is to give myself pleasure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		yes shush men in black protocol thing is really going That's all I've got to say.
unidentified		Well, in order for the new hybrid protocols to take effect, they implant different protocols in different beings across different planets, different areas of different planets, different civilizations, and they say, what is the most effective operations protocol?
		Almost as if you were designing an artificial intelligence and saying, what is the best way to do this?
		Should we give one that can only follow commands and then we have to continually give it commands?
		Or should we give one and tell it, please yourself.
		Entity, here you have existence.
		Here you have sentience.
		Please yourself.
		What do you do to please yourself?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to know.
		Look, I appreciate your call, but I think I understand where it's leading.
		and if that's really where the men in black have gone truly we are doomed uh...
		if your only reason for being is to pleasure yourself in whatever unsaid way we might imagine that occurs then the whole men in black thing is It's just not what I imagined it to be.
		And I'm afraid to say that you're not much different than the rest of the generation your age.
		Now, there was somebody earlier, you'll recall, who said the ultimate goal was to turn America into Rome.
		So it may well be that this YMIB is one of the new Romans.
		We're going to take a stab at the international line here.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hey.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Arbel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
unidentified		My name is Wataka Shia.
unidentified		I sent you a tape about a year and a half ago about Hailbop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a long time.
unidentified		Yes, it has.
		Anyway, what I wanted to tell you is I made some prophecies at that time.
		I'm a Native American.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I made some prophecies at that time.
		I was in air about...
		One was about a volcano around you up in your area, but all you had up there was an earthquake under the day I said it would be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we have no new...
unidentified		No, they had an earthquake underneath, one up around Reno.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you couldn't exactly call that a hit.
unidentified		No, I wouldn't call that a hit.
		But I tried to call earlier.
		I told the guy, the man in white.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, man in black.
unidentified		Yeah, I told him I was the man in white, but I got hung up on him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because we were looking for men in black.
unidentified		I didn't call on that line.
unidentified		I called on a different line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, there's nobody to hang up on you because I'm the only one here.
unidentified		Well, there must have been the phone here then.
		I can't hardly hear you.
		But what I was trying to call about was 19.5 in the book of Genesis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What that was about was the first time the angels came down and made a judgment.
		They warned Lot and his wife.
		Then again in 19.5 in the book of Psalms, it talks about the king's chamber and it talks about the valley of the sun.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Possibly Phoenix.
unidentified		So I think Mr. Hogan ought to check out practicing some geometry, which is ancient Hebrew mysticism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, look, he's working very, very hard on exactly that sort of thing.
		He always does.
		The connection between Egypt, Sidonia, and Phoenix.
		I still don't properly understand what is to occur.
		I never have really understood it.
		It's probably a third-level question.
		But I never really have understood exactly what is supposed to occur in Phoenix.
		That's one thing I've just never been clear on.
		Phoenix, a Phoenix, a Phoenix.
		Of course, there were the lights.
		But what else?
		You know, I have this feeling that something else is going to occur in Phoenix.
		East of the Rockies, you're on there.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Bill.
		hello for publication today on lifestyle magazine It's a news show.
		I've never heard of the program before in my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, same here.
unidentified		Ed Begley Jr. was on there, and he basically went over the same things that Colonel Ed Dames did.
unidentified		But he was not on the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's major Ed Dames.
unidentified		Major Ed Dames, excuse me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I had a doctor on last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear him, Dr. Holland?
unidentified		Yes, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who literally verified that remote viewing is absolutely a genuine discipline.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm sure a lot of people are thinking real hard about that tonight in view of what Major James has said.
unidentified		Yes.
		But he ver I mean, had vaguely verified, you know, with the frogs, global warming, and the fish problem that he's not an alarmist.
		You know, it's not the end of the world, but things are changing very rapidly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No kidding.
unidentified		And, you know, as your book says.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wrote that book when I knew it was coming.
		We are now in the middle of it.
		The book I wrote, and this is getting serious for a moment, on a night that I'm otherwise trying to stay fairly light, The Quickening is a very, very, very serious Work.
		And it is now generally available in bookstores across America.
		What I recommend you try first, you can try any bookstore, really, but Barnes and Noble, generally.
		Barnes and Noble Superstores, Bookstar, Bookstop, E. Dalton's.
		Porter's books, Walden books, you get the idea.
		Go in and ask for it.
		It's called The Quickening, and I am not a prophet, but I saw it coming.
		And now it has begun.
		I guess in a way it was underway when I wrote it, or I could not have seen it.
		But the process since the publication of the book has accelerated.
		And the book looks forward enough that it encompasses the present time we're in and looks forward and tells you where we're going.
		I recommend you pick it up and read it.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Matt in Memphis.
		Yes, sir.
		As far as David John Oates is saying, and connecting that with your theory about computer sentience, what if you did reversals on a speech synthesizer and you actually got something backwards?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, according to David Oates, a speech synthesizer, and I've got one of them here, does not in any way prevent reversals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We proved that when we reversed Victor.
unidentified		I mean something just a computer.
		Oh, you mean a computer voice?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there would be no emotion, so there couldn't be any reversal.
unidentified		But if it was a sentient computer, like maybe the HAL 9000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, if it was a sentient computer.
unidentified		Like what you were saying, the sentient internet.
unidentified		And if they were to speak, well, you might get something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably stuff like humans die soon.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I get the idea.
		Thank you very much.
		Reversing a sentient computer.
		You would want to listen carefully to what a sentient computer would say.
		Forwards first, wouldn't you?
		Imagine reversing a sentient computer?
		Things like humans die soon.
		Too many humans.
		Or perhaps it would be more metaphoric.
		Who knows?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Mr. Bell.
		This is Mark Downis Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to call you, and I know I was listening a couple weeks ago to Major Ed Danes, or maybe about a week ago, and you were talking about how the Jetstream would be bottoming out in certain places.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And, well, I was watching the news, and they said in Corpus Christi, Texas, we had 180 miles per hour wind gust.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Yes.
		180 miles per hour wind gust.
		When?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe it was this week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		180 miles an hour in Corpus Christi?
unidentified		Yes, sir, down the coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That should have taken buildings down all over the place.
unidentified		Well, I mean, I heard it on the weather channel, so I don't know for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure about that?
unidentified		If it was on Channel 3, I don't know if I can say it on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can say it.
unidentified		Yeah, sure.
		It was John Willey.
		The weatherman said there was 180 mile-pan-hour wind gusts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My God.
unidentified		It could have been very localized, so I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the information.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Sure, I love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		180 mile-an-hour wind gust.
		There have been, he says as he gets serious again for a moment, a lot of reports by local weathermen who have actually stated on the air that the jet stream has virtually come down on deck.
		And this is something that Ed Dames was predicting.
		What would you say, folks?
		It was a year ago, at least a year ago.
		And then, shortly after he said it would occur, it began occurring.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		I have laryngitis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have terrible laryngitis.
unidentified		I have silicone poisoning from the same plant.
		Well, you're going to have to try and yell at us.
		This is, that's what I wanted to know, is if I could be heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I can hear you, but it's very difficult.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, I want to tell you one thing.
		I have two of those time machine things, but they are not the ones he's talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have two time machine thingies, but they're not his fidgets, you mean?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they like fidgets?
unidentified		No, they are square about a flip.
		They're a middle.
		Do you know who Nicholas Tesla is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nicola Tesla.
unidentified		Nicola.
		All right.
		These were developed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nicholas is as in St. Right.
unidentified		Right, Nicola.
unidentified		He had a studio or a testing system at Cripple Creek, Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cripple Creek, Colorado?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		For a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And have you actually done time travel with these things?
unidentified		I have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't relate, though, to your laryngitis.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, time travel doesn't take your breath away.
		Listen, I...
		You're not listening to me.
		I've got a break right here.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		We are literally doing nothing of substance this morning, and that's exactly what I wanted to do.
		I missed a question.
		Tom in Tozki, Michigan, wanted to know, how does one apply for a job with a men in black?
		I'm sorry, Tom, I did not ask that.
		But I may still get the opportunity, so hang in there.
		We'll get back to whatever it is we're doing in a moment.
unidentified		We'll get back to whatever it is we're doing in a moment.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Yes, sir.
		Sounds a little like you're underwater.
unidentified		Hey, I'm in my truck.
		I'm in Atlanta heading up 75.
		But, you know, I was in there a little bit ago, and the guy was talking about a fidget.
		Yes.
		And that just brought something back.
		I run into a guy, it's been about two years ago, that claimed to have a fidget.
		I didn't know what it was.
		He didn't go into any detail.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He actually used the word fidget.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		He just said it helped him get away from things.
		But, you know, he didn't go into a lot of detail about it.
		But it just made me start thinking, well, I met this guy.
		You know, a couple of weeks ago, he was talking about a little town in West Virginia, Point Pleasant, where the bridge fell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, sir.
unidentified		That's the town I'm from.
		And, you know, they talk about the man in black crawling out on the bridge.
		The moth man.
		You know, I'm familiar with all that, but, you know, I myself have never seen any of that kind of stuff.
		But I just thought it's kind of odd that this guy come on there and started talking about a fidget.
		And, you know, I saw it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of giving me the heebie-jeebies because, frankly, I didn't believe him.
unidentified		Well, you know, it didn't really click until just, you know, probably a half hour ago or so.
		Right after he got talked about, he said fidget.
		And I was thinking, where have I heard that term before?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have you been out here near Las Vegas?
unidentified		No, sir.
		Now, where I met this guy was, well, like I said, the town I'm from.
		I was living up there at the time.
		I guess it's been about three years ago because that's when I moved away from Point Pleasant back here to Atlanta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, I take it you listen to WGST Planet Radio.
unidentified		Yes, I'm listening to it now.
unidentified		I got my radio turned down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, do me a big favor, will you?
		Yes.
		You know, they have these truckers networks around, and I'm trying to explain to people that we have more truckers listening to us by a long shot than any of these truckers networks.
		So, first of all, do you believe that's generally true?
unidentified		What?
unidentified		About the fidget?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The truckers.
unidentified		Yes, yeah, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's like when you talk to other people on CB and stuff, they're not listening to the truckers' networks.
unidentified		I wouldn't necessarily say that.
		I know a lot of them are listening to other stations, but I know a bunch of them myself.
		I'm more or less a local delivery.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And I know a bunch of truck drivers that specifically listen to like Planet Radio.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course.
		All right.
		Do me a favor.
		Give me a big toot on your horn.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Here comes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		Fidgets have made it all the way to Atlanta, Georgia.
		That's remarkable.
		Absolutely remarkable.
		Well, let me try one more time here.
		Let me go to my international line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Eric Coleman from Edmonton, Alberta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Edmonton, yes, sir.
unidentified		I've spent the last half year or so trying to come up with some suggestions for your show.
unidentified		I managed to come up with two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they are.
unidentified		First of all, maybe something that would bring about instant insomnia across the world.
unidentified		But how about Hoagland and Stanton Friedman on the same show, Field and Calls?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Richard Hoagland and Stanton Friedman, huh?
unidentified		You know, Hoagland has so much passion, and he doesn't cut himself off, though.
unidentified		I think Friedman would give you some more abrupt responses that we might want.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you would consider that Stanton would be a control on Richard?
unidentified		To a certain extent, yeah.
unidentified		One other suggestion, a rather disturbing phenomenon I don't think people have even heard of, is that discussed in an Ira Levin's book called Sliver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before you get into that, I've got to tell you about a call I got from Richard.
		It was about a week ago.
		And he was telling me he was listening to this show, and there was this guy on it.
		He was being serious, and he said, you know, I have never been so frustrated in my whole point.
		This guy would not come to the point.
		And I just broke out in laughter.
		I was totally cracked up.
		And Richard said, well, Richard, I'm real serious.
		And he said, I know what you're thinking.
		That's awful.
		Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified		Well, the concept of hotels and apartments using pinhole surveillance cameras.
		And how do you know if you're a victim?
		Well, you don't.
		You'd have to get a sweep done of the place.
		I'd like to leave you, though, with a prediction.
		I really see a lot, a big increase in the rate of airplane crashes and wildfires.
		I don't know about you but I see those as two possible clicking phenomena.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		You know what I think I'd do if I found somebody with a secret little pinhole camera in my house?
		If something like that had been planted and I found it?
		I'd act out something.
		You know, like a murder or something.
		Really mess them up.
		Or I'd even concoct something wilder than that.
		I don't know what it would be, but I would act something out to totally freak out the people who had put it there.
		On my special combo line, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, where are you?
unidentified		I'm in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		California?
		We have an echo.
		Hold on a minute here.
		Let me see what I can do about that.
		Let me try.
		That should be better.
		You're in California.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you fit into the category of a man in black, a time traveler, or one who possesses a time machine?
unidentified		I'm in the men in black.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a man in black?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm shocked that I am getting so many men in black.
		Now, I thought never would I get a man in black because they are so secretive, so many levels, no doubt, above top secret, that we could never get one to call, and yet here you are.
		All right.
		Yes, all right.
		May I ask how one might go on behalf of Faxer about getting a job with the men in black?
		Is there a way one can apply?
unidentified		There's not really a way you can apply for a men in black.
unidentified		You kind of fall into it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They come to you or?
unidentified		Well, you go through certain levels.
		I started out in the military as just a regular, you know, went through boot camp, you know, went in the military, went to a special service, and was given the offer, and I figured, what the hell, I might as well try it out.
		I mean, I was single.
		I had no family.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what did I have to lose?
		I remember I was in the Air Force.
		Now, they used to post job openings for career field changes that you could apply for.
		I mean, did you go into the barracks one day or the first sergeant's office and there was a little thing saying men in black openings?
unidentified		No, no.
unidentified		I mean, they don't recruit like a guy at a boot camp.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		I mean, you're not like a semen apprentice or a semen recruit.
		When they say, hey, how would you like to be a men in black?
		Normally, most of the men in black are officers that are strictly given security clearances and are told, you know, I'm sure you remember the old page 13 where you're told, okay, you've given up your rights to be a normal American and have the normal rights of everybody else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that.
unidentified		And so, I mean, what did I have to lose?
		I've always wanted to know.
		I mean, I remember as a kid, I always wanted to know what was going on, and I figured this was the best course to take.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is a general description, job description, of what you do?
unidentified		Well, you know, I listened to some of the other people you had had on about the hierarchy and this and that.
		And we are basically out there to control secrets of the government.
		Okay?
		I mean, a lot of times the secrets get out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But how do you sleep at night?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, going around intimidating people.
unidentified		Well, I mean, you wouldn't be intimidated by a man in white.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I understand that part of it, but I mean, actually intimidating them, or worse yet, breaking into a place and stealing evidence and that sort of thing.
		How do you sleep at night?
		How do you live with yourself?
unidentified		Well, because basically, you know, from our point of view, we feel that national security of the United States is our prime motive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's been so much done in the name of national security, though.
unidentified		I know, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		that people feel like they have a right to know what they do have a right to know but all not not according to you guys you go around stealing evidence and covering things up and Well, in some instances, we do steal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Someone probably even kill occasionally.
unidentified		But we look at the big picture of things.
unidentified		I mean, say we were to let out that, okay, there's a carburetor out there that's going to get 125 miles a gallon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I bet you've got a bunch of those.
unidentified		Well, we may or may not.
unidentified		I mean, there are certain of us that work for oil companies and protect their interests.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's figures.
unidentified		And there are certain of us that work for insurance companies, protect their interests.
		And there are certain of us that work for energy companies.
		In fact, nuclear power is one of the interests that we've tried to go against.
		Because basically, you know, you can go through...
		That was my prime job for the oil companies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't you have guilt about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we are polluting our air, our environment is fouled, and you're protecting these old burners and providers of fossil fuels that are destroying our atmosphere.
unidentified		Well, I wouldn't be calling if I didn't feel guilty.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, so you're sort of like a man-in-black whistleblower, sort of.
unidentified		Well, not a whistleblower.
unidentified		It's just that something occurred in my life that made me kind of look at the other side of the spectrum.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was that?
unidentified		I met a woman and I fell in love and had children.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that generally not a thing that a man-in-black would do?
unidentified		We're supposed to basically be on our own.
		No ties.
		This way we have no commitments to other parties other than what our job is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't take vows of celibacy.
unidentified		Well, not vows of celibacy, but they don't want us settling down and beginning with a family thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense to me, sure.
unidentified		So what happened is when I had children, I started looking at the big picture and I said to myself, you know, I have children.
		You know, I have responsibility.
		I have, you know, my kids, you know, when I'm in my 60s, they're in their 20s, they're going to be going through things that I tried to stop from doing all in the cost for money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when you try to quit or leave the men in black, is it like, I mean in a mafia, you generally don't quit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're terminated permanently.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, you think you're smarter and you can keep one step ahead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But, you know, sometimes people think they're so smart and, you know, I fell into the same hole where I said, hey, you know, I think I can fool these guys.
unidentified		And basically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't you find yourself constantly looking over your shoulder?
unidentified		Yeah.
		As a matter of fact, I do.
		And I'm sure I'll get screwed out of this one to be blatant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're a very heroic individual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they going to continue the policy of promoting fossil fuels, hiding carburetors?
unidentified		I'm sure as long as there's money there and there's people that can make it big, I'm sure they will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is the ultimate boss of the men in black a woman in black?
		No.
		So that was false?
unidentified		Well, yes.
		there are no women in black per se.
		I mean, there's women in the community of the organization, but they're not...
		I mean, there may be women that are in charge of certain divisions or certain sectors of the organization, but...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you say the average man in black is not married, doesn't have family, children, that sort of thing, right?
unidentified		Well, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he has all the normal urges of a man, right?
		Of course.
		So you would assume that he has a relationship, at least at some shallow level, with women.
		If a man in black would utter to a woman what he does for a living, and she had knowledge of this, what would happen to her?
unidentified		Well, they don't constantly monitor us, I would assume, everything would be okay unless it was a plant to test our loyalty.
		But with the current woman I'm in love with, and I've had children with, I waited years and years.
		I mean, it's not paranoia.
		It's more of, I'm not going to get this person involved in what I do if I know it's going to hurt her in any way.
		And I'm sure you have found a woman and that you are a soulmate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, indeed.
unidentified		And you don't want anything to happen to that woman that would ever put her in danger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're damn right.
unidentified		Because basically what it boils down to is, I mean, love is the ultimate power.
unidentified		I mean, there's someone that you meet on the street corner, you see that, you know, you may meet 20 women before you, but there's that one woman that just kind of, for some reason, you just can't seem to stop thinking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's love.
unidentified		That's love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Love.
unidentified		And, I mean, I wouldn't want my wife.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, obviously, you're being heard now by millions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Your old bosses are listening.
unidentified		Obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What would you say to them?
unidentified		It's too late now, isn't it?
		I mean, granted, there's a certain amount of skepticism with people that listen to your show.
		I mean, they take a little bit for being truth-fact, kidding around, joking around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, sure.
		But, you know, what could you say if we were to say to you, we doubt what you're saying.
		We don't believe you.
		What could you say that would help us believe you?
unidentified		Well, look at what the government has come out with over the few years.
unidentified		The CIA has invented that they, yes, indeed did plan stories about UFOs to cover the U-2 spy planes and the SR-71.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		They did indeed do tests on African-American males to see how they would react to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		That kid's plutonium, it goes on and on and on and on.
		So in other words, if we embrace that as the truth, then we should embrace what you are saying as the truth.
unidentified		It is easily as believable.
		You've got to look at everything at the core of every conspiracy theory or everything that's going on.
		There is a certain amount of truth.
		I understand.
		And I would not fault the people that make these decisions because to them, they're looking, the United States has to be number one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a really hard question?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a man in black, have you ever had to take a life?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kill?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		You don't have to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever had to rough somebody up?
unidentified		Not so much rough somebody up, but I mean, standing in a street corner, following someone, stalking somebody, you know, dressed in a black suit with black glasses and staring at someone and always being there, I mean, letting them know that you're there is enough to, you know, give someone the willies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So a man in black's main job, then, is intimidation.
unidentified		Well, why not?
		I mean, it's the same as a police officer.
		You're driving down the road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		You see a cop hanging out on the side of the road.
		Are you going to speed up to 70 miles an hour?
		Are you going to slow down to 55?
		I mean, it's deterrence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's no question about it.
		I mean, if you were to look out and see at the edge of your property some black skulking figure with a black hat and a black suit.
		As a matter of fact, you know, it's funny.
		I had a caller not that long ago who said that he saw a man in black.
		It was when we were doing the show on that.
		And he said he looked down and he saw this man in black.
		And he stood there and watched him until finally the man in black raised his hand and simply pointed, acknowledging that it was that man that he was there watching.
		In other words, it was the finger of intimidation.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's all it takes in most cases, huh?
unidentified		In most cases.
		And then another thing we do is, I mean, once the evidence is gone, how are you going to prove?
		It's one against the other.
		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My word against yours.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		I mean, the media.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I've got to go.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you sound like the real deal to me, all right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, and we will talk with you once again.
		Another Man in Black Intimidation.
		I always thought that was their real job.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
		The peace of God's openness and love will still be.
		This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, Age of Aquarius, Aquarius, Aquarius.
		Comedy and understanding.
		The End.
		Her hair is hollow gold.
		Her lips are sweet as prize.
		Her hands are never cold.
		She's got better days.
		She turned us in.
		You won't have to think twice.
		She's pure as New York Snow.
		She's got better days.
		But she's easy to unease you.
		Hold better just to please you.
		She's cautious and she knows just what.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 8th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The following is from Jackie in Jay, Florida.
		A woman accompanied her husband to the doctor's office.
		After the checkup, the doctor told the wife, if you don't do the following, your husband will surely die.
		One, each morning, fix him a healthy breakfast, send him off to work in a good mood.
		Two, at lunchtime, make him a warm, nutritious meal and put him in a good frame of mind before he goes back to work.
		And for dinner, fix an especially nice meal.
		Do not burden him with household chores.
		And finally, have sex with him several times a week and satisfy his every whim and need.
		On the way home, the husband turned around and asked his wife what the doctor had said.
		She looked at him and said, he said, you're going to die.
unidentified		Baby, she's a spy.
unidentified		She's got a heavy table size.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there's one more thing, and this is on the very serious side, and since I'm not being very serious tonight, I'm not going to do it.
		I had a very long, very serious facts from a lady named Nancy, whose husband was regarded to be the sixth most efficient assassin in the country.
		Somehow I don't want to end up Saturday morning in my final hour interviewing the sixth most efficient assassin.
		However, Nancy, I will call you, Nancy, and arrange an interview sometime next week.
		So rather than trying to fit it into the end of a show that has been mostly weird, I know that what you're saying is very serious, and I do want to do the interview, but I want to think about it, and I want to arrange the right time, and I just don't feel like now is the right time.
		So I will call you, Nancy, next week, and we will make arrangements.
		And then there's Art.
		I think my supervisor at work might be a man in black.
		He's got no lips and talks like a robot.
		He's fired or made to quit five civil service employees in the few months that he has been with our government agency.
		What I want to know is, are there any ways to ward off an MIB like kryptonite or something?
		No name, name withheld in California.
		Well, anybody who can actually cause a civil servant to quit probably does have some sort of supernatural power.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 8th of August, 1997.
		The 8th of August, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Back to the lines.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		How doing, Art?
		Well, I don't know how you describe how it's going tonight.
		You've been listening, right?
unidentified		Oh, I've been listening all night, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How would you describe it?
unidentified		It's kind of weird.
		I like it, though.
		It's pretty cool.
		I haven't been listening to your show that long.
		I just got a job at a radio station, and I've been, you were an affiliate or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You work at one of my affiliates?
unidentified		I sure do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one, where?
unidentified		WSOY, Decatur, Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		I have a question about one of your callers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have questions about many of them.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm sure you do, man.
		You get some weird callers.
		But hey, you know, the guy turned into a wolf.
		Yeah.
		Perhaps I missed something, but he said he met a guy, a man in black.
		What does it have to do with him turning into a wolf?
		Maybe I missed that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did.
		He said that, yes, a man in black showed up, And as I recall the story, his father told him there was a family curse.
		Yeah.
		And apparently told him what was going to occur to him that he was going to turn into a wolf and did.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we're talking about a curse placed on him.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I gotcha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he sure sounded serious.
unidentified		He did.
		I don't know.
		He's kind of convinced because he said himself, he said, maybe I'm crazy.
		And most guys, they'd be like, I'm not crazy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe his word was fruit loop.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		But it takes all kinds, doesn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, who are we to say?
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it could have been.
		You know what did it for me?
		And I was ready to cut him loose at the bottom of the hour, but he hit me with that line about always being hungry.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And something resonated, and I said, maybe.
		There are more things that occur than we know about in this world.
		And so I tend not to reject things, just listen.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		It's probably the best way to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a way.
		It's my way.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Hey, hey, no problem.
		Your show rule, man.
		That's the only word for it.
		It rules.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bye-bye.
		It is different, as you may have noticed.
		I try and do different stuff all the time.
		And tonight I just felt like I don't know.
		I just felt like doing something a little lighter.
		It's been a pretty heavy week, to say the least.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Oh, glad to make it true.
		This is Michael.
		I'm calling from downtown Salt Lake City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yo, Michael.
unidentified		I'm listening currently on either KNZZ in Grand Junction or KFAB out of Omaha, whichever comes in better.
unidentified		At the moment, if I tried to get in at the end of 1996 when you were doing predictions, I predicted that I would have if I'd gotten in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, now wait a minute.
		No, this never washes.
		In other words, you're about to predict something.
unidentified		No, my prediction came true or it would have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I mean.
		You're going to predict something that's already occurred.
		Say you would have predicted what?
unidentified		That we'd be on a different affiliate in Salt Lake as we are on KALL.
unidentified		see I mean if you I'm just saying, but that's neither here nor there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		We're glad to be on KALL.
		But what I'm saying is, if you had actually made that prediction, do you know how impressed I'd be right now?
unidentified		Yeah, but since I didn't, that's neither here nor there.
		just for some reason we're not you're not on friday night saturday mornings there i don't know if it's a mistake of the uh...
		programmers there or uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		i don't I'm sure that it will get straightened out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the thing to do in these kinds of situations, KALL, of course, is a far more powerful station.
unidentified		Than K-Talk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oops, didn't mean to mention that competition.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's cool.
		I mean, it's all right.
		KALL is very powerful.
		And they will, you know, the thing to do is give them a call and just be very nice and tell them you would like to hear the Friday night, Saturday morning show.
		And I'm sure they would, you know, rather than have you listen to something from hundreds of miles away, they would rather have you listening to their station buying their products.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Okay.
		Another issue.
		I just wanted to let you, I didn't know if you were aware of that or not, but David John Oates, you generally have him do reversals on controversial folks.
		What I think would be interesting is to either have him or maybe one of his students, because I know he's really booked, but to do some reversals on, say, people like Malachi Martin, Daniel Brinkley, Richard Hoagland, people who we really don't question their credibility.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or what about taking a night like tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have talked to men in black.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have talked to wolves.
		I have talked to morticians' assistants.
		I have talked to a whole range of people.
		And if only one or two of them turned out to be totally congruent, that would stop you cold, wouldn't it?
unidentified		It would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're right.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		And so David might want to go to work on the contents of this show tonight.
		And, boy, I don't know what I'd be sitting here thinking if some of it came out as congruent.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		And finally, my last question.
		Is somebody going to be doing an audiobook on your quickening at some point, either you or someone?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
unidentified		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't tell you when yet, all right?
unidentified		Sounds good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you very much.
		Yes.
		The answer is yes.
		But it's a project that I have yet refused to contemplate.
		Kind of like I almost don't have a life now.
		And if I begin doing that, then I have a minus life for a period of time.
unidentified		So eventually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, my book is a quickening book.
		Very serious book, actually.
		It'll give you some chills when you read it because what I wrote about then has already begun to manifest itself now.
		I almost don't want to talk about that right now.
		But you can find The Quickening, and I recommend you read it in bookstores around and about America.
		Go to your favorite bookstore and ask for it.
		And if they don't have it immediately, they can look it up in their little computer thing and they'll find it.
		The Quickening by Art Bell.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		My name is Chris.
		I'm coming from California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Chris.
unidentified		I have two questions for you.
		First one is on the Roswell incident, you had a full report at some point with a chemist who was supposed to be giving his testimonial on what happened, not on what happened, I'm sorry, on the composition of the Are you talking about Lieutenant Colonel Philip J. Corso.
		No, no, no.
		I'm talking about the chemist who was associated with UC San Diego, who was at the conference in Waswell.
		Oh!
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay, and the question I have is: on a different program, a few days later, I heard someone who is obviously not believing any of this saying that they called UC San Diego and this guy had absolutely no affiliation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There was an Associated Press Wire story that broke that said this man was not affiliated with University of San Diego, but we did some very careful checking and found out that, in fact, he is employed there.
unidentified		And that, in fact, he is a Ph.D. So there is a lot of disinformation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is not my parts that were tested.
		If you thought those were arts parts, they were not.
		These were different materials that were submitted by others.
		And so, in fact, this man really is employed, and that part of it was determined to be real.
		And so, yeah, there's a hell of a lot of disinformation out there.
unidentified		Right, the person who was on that show was really disinforming because he said he called UC San Diego, and there was absolutely no trace of anybody who had been ever employed or was employed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a man, a spokesman named Jacobi, who gave the Associated Press information that this person was not employed, and he was in error.
unidentified		Okay, I have a second question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		Okay.
		I think it was in the same program, but I can't remember for sure.
		I've been trying to reach you, and I haven't been able until now.
		The alien autopsy video, movie, whatever it is, video, also has been discredited with possibly the fact that there was an OSHA picture, an OSHA poster on the wall in the background.
		You know what I'm talking about?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know what you're talking to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A warning thing?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're talking about the graphic design of it?
unidentified		I don't know about the details, but the person who was discrediting it said those OSHA signs were not available at that time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he's wrong.
		Wow.
		He is wrong.
		More disinformation.
		In fact, I checked into that.
		I've looked into that.
		Look, there has yet to be one real hole blown in that tape.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Including the analysis of the film and all that.
		Is there anything new?
		Are you going to do something on that soon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The minute there's anything new on it, I will do it.
		They have analyzed not just leader, but some of a few frames of actual film.
		And there is no question about the fact that that film was used then.
		There is no question about the fact that that film, if it had not been used, would not have been viable later on unless it had been kept in some specially frozen state for bazillions of years.
		You know, 50 years, whatever.
		And I am not defending the Alien Autopsy film as genuine because I don't know it to be.
		I'm just saying that nobody has blown a sufficiently large hole in it yet for me to say it is a fraud.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		This is Ed in Phoenix.
		Hello, Ed.
		I was wondering, in reference to the guy who called up and turned into a wolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Have you ever, any of the times when Whitley Streeper has been interviewed on your show, have you ever asked him about his novel, The Wild?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have not.
unidentified		That's basically the plot, and I considered it one of his better fiction works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there have been many, many, many stories, sir, about people becoming wolves.
unidentified		I understand that.
unidentified		This story just sounded very similar to Whitley's novel, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I haven't read Whitley's novel.
unidentified		In that novel, was it a curse?
		In a way, if it's been a while since I've read it, but it's very interesting.
		I'm not doubting the man's credibility.
		It's very possible.
		I have a very illustration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's nothing wrong with doubting somebody who says they became a wolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can doubt them, man.
unidentified		I understand that, yes.
		But I enjoy your show very much.
		And I just wondered, I had thought maybe I had missed it if you had ever brought up the subject with Whitley.
		So I just thought.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I'll tell you what, now that you have said this, I will.
unidentified		I would be interested to see what Whitley had to say on this particular subject, since he has written a novel about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Consider it done.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Have a good night.
unidentified		Bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a good night, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Until the bottom of the hour breaks.
unidentified		This is Premiere Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this, somewhere in time.
		Along the coach roads I did ride, with sword and pistol by my side.
		Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade.
		Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.
		The masters hung me in the spring of 25.
		But I am still alive.
		I was a sailor.
		I was born upon the die.
		With the sea I did a fight.
		I sailed a schooner around the horn of Mexico.
		I went along the world and named the Liverpool.
		And when the odds broke up, they said that I got killed.
		But I am living still.
		I was a damn builder across the river deep and wide.
		Where stealing water did the lies, a place called border on the wild bubble.
		I swept and fell to the wind people.
		They buried me in that ranger that knows no sound.
		But I'm still around.
		I'll always be around and around and around.
		Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues courtesy of Premier Networks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We are very close to a severe weather situation here in the Nye County area.
		And apparently in Las Vegas, it's already hitting.
		I just got the following.
		Hello, Art.
		I just wanted to let you know the weather in Las Vegas right now is wild.
		I live 10 miles south of the Rio Hotel and normally have an outstanding view of the Strip.
		But right now, there's so much dirt in the air that I can't see any lights from the town.
		The only way I can tell it's not a blackout is because I can still see the Luxor light on the sky and the clouds.
		I've been here a while and I've never seen this.
		Very odd indeed.
		Thanks.
unidentified		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Leon, BS, by the way, KXNT in Las Vegas is off the air.
		Nothing but static.
		And we can see lightning flashes like crazy to the east of us from here in Nye County.
		So obviously, it's wild times in the desert once again, folks.
		Also, I was trying to keep it lighter, but I just got a newspaper headline from Anchorage, the Anchorage Daily News, the main newspaper up there.
		And I'm not even going to read the story right now.
		It just follows on the heels of so many others like it.
		It says, dead seabirds baffle experts.
		Front page, Anchorage Daily News, dead seabirds baffle experts.
		Warmer bearing Gulf of Alaska water is one suspect in the mysterious die-off.
		I'm telling you guys right now, things are changing out there and not necessarily for the better.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bells.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		somewhere in time tonight featuring coast to coast a.m. from the 8th of August 1997 I'll tell you something one of my projects and I've been meaning to do this for about two years and I'm not going to wait much longer I'm going to try to figure out how to get an outside microphone
		amounted I hear at the house.
		I do my show.
		A lot of people don't know it because I don't mention it that frequently.
		I do it from home.
		And there are a lot of interesting things that go on here, not limited to some of the violent storms we have.
		And a microphone would be really neat to have.
		Now, since I'm on at night, it would be a little difficult to get a camera out there.
		I've certainly considered it, and I may do it.
		And I may do it and, you know, the studio cam, I could pump outside shots to the net during the day, and that's something that I may fool with.
		I can easily do that.
		But having a microphone out there would be really neat.
		I could just bring it up on one of the board faders when something particularly neat was going on.
		We have a lot of very strange aircraft that pass over.
		We have a lot of, the power just flickered here, we have a lot of strange things, strange goings on, and it would be neat to have a microphone outside that I could just bring up and listen.
		Actually, then we could all listen.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		My name is James.
unidentified		I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, James.
unidentified		I have a, well, I am kin to Merle Haggard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you are?
unidentified		Yes.
		I have heard that he is, he is, here his wife is trying to get on your show.
		Because I've had some strange goings on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I promise you I am going to have Merle Haggard on the show.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I've got a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Is there any way you might be able to get it to where I can talk to him?
unidentified		Because I've never met him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're kin?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		He's like my third half cousin.
		Your third half cousin?
		Great grandfather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what you do.
		Fire me email or a fax or snail mail or something and give me a number.
		And be sure and let me know who you are and I'll do what I can.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And then I've got another question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		For you to ask the men in black.
		Would you ask them if they have, if there are civilian men in black.
		And also exactly how they get into it through the military.
		If they might be able to give you any idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sort of did ask that.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I kind of got that from that guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		he knew he kind of bounced around the question yeah I'll try I'll try for you okay okay thank you all right thank you on my utility line you're you're on the air good morning hello Art hello cut my radio off um I wanted to talk to you about that uh infrared technology that Lieutenant Philip J. Kersko was talking about no this is listen unless you're a man in black a time traveler or own a time machine that's seen pictures that were taken from that
unidentified		camera my father worked for North American Aviation in County near Lake Ridge and Sturton Grey Road and he showed me a copy of the Skyrider magazine of the cars and motorcycles and the parkland people, even taken the day before.
		And I can verify that it's absolutely true.
		One of your callers called up and mentioned it to you when you were talking to John David Oates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Right.
		And I've been trying to get in touch with you ever.
		I tried, you know, on the computer and everything, I couldn't get through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but you've got to understand that this line is for that special people, so I'm going to have to leave you, okay?
unidentified		Well, is there any way that could give you a number to contact me, Bet?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like, you know, you can email me or fax me or snail mail me or whatever, and we'll talk.
unidentified		Okay, I can, yeah, okay.
unidentified		You can snail mail then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, you bet.
		Take care.
		Yeah, that's a special line.
		Just tonight only.
		Men in black.
		Boy, we've had a lot of those.
		In fact, a shockingly high number of those.
		And while I was ready to dismiss the men in black with a chuckle, I'm not sure that I am.
		Don't forget I'm going to be on TV Sunday.
		And it'll be a rare appearance because you're not going to see me on TV, for the most part, anymore.
		I've sort of sworn off TV.
		But CNN was here a couple of months ago.
		This was two months ago.
		And they filmed a show we did late at night here in the studio on why people distrust government.
		It would have been easier to do one on who trusted government anymore.
		But it was very revealing.
		And it sort of fit into what they were doing.
		So they tell me it's going to be on WTBS this coming Sunday, August 10th at 7 o'clock Pacific.
		Right in the middle of Dreamland.
		So run, you know, set up video cassette tape to run.
		It will be repeated at 11.50 p.m. Pacific time.
		And I will remind people on Sunday that it is on at the risk of competing with myself.
		Sheesh.
		First time caller line, actual utility line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's me.
unidentified		Yes, I spoke with you a bit earlier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not allowed to call twice in the same night.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter if you're a man in black.
		I don't care if you're a man in purple.
		You can only call once.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		No, no, no, wrong line.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello, Art.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My name is Michael.
		I'm from Atlanta.
		I was curious, have you heard of the book Transformation of America by Kathy O'Brien?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
unidentified		It's off right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
unidentified		She claims to be with a large amount of documentation, a survivor of MKUltra mind control slaves.
unidentified		She claims she was sold into it by her parents as a child, that she was groomed as a presidential model, and tells some pretty fantastic stories about George Bush.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, would you please turn your radio off, I say again?
unidentified		It is off, sir.
		It's completely off.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how do I get hold of her?
unidentified		Are you familiar with Contact Newspaper?
unidentified		They've written about you several times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What did they write about me?
unidentified		Nothing but good things.
		They talk about some of the stories you've had on the program.
		They're out of Las Vegas.
		It's quite an informative newspaper.
		It's a weekly paper that doesn't have a real large subscription base.
		Their number is 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		Can't do that.
		You've given me enough information, and I can certainly proceed from there, particularly if it's in Las Vegas.
		So I'll pursue it, and I'll see if I can get her on.
unidentified		I think she would gladly come on.
unidentified		She's got quite a story to tell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like my kind of gal.
unidentified		Thank you, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have a good night.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
		Sure.
		Be glad to pursue that.
		On my utility line, you're on.
		Whoops, would have been on the air.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you this morning?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Yeah, it's the first time I've got through to you.
		This is Tony in Klamath Falls.
		Hi, Tony.
		And what I was calling about, I have a question.
		You can ask your first man in black, the one that's going to call you after the program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Ask him if he knows where the double triangle, this is SARS, the double triangle in the sky is now that is the space portal.
unidentified		I know where it's at.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you should tell us.
unidentified		I know, but if I tell you, he'll hear it.
		I could tell you on another program where.
		But that would be a definite thing because if he is from these other places, he should know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you're not on the line and we ask that question and he gives an answer, we've got to accept it.
unidentified		You're going to ask him afterwards when you and him are talking privately, you told him to call him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but still, how am I going to know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If he's telling me the truth, he could tell me any cock and bull story, and you're not going to be here to verify where the portal is, so I'm dead.
unidentified		No, you're not dead.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm dead in the water.
unidentified		I can let you know the truth, where it is.
		And then you would know.
		Maybe you wouldn't know the second he told you, but you Would know afterwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you been through this portal?
unidentified		No, but I've watched ships go into it and disappear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean just pss?
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		That's exactly what they do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Well, I'll mark that one down and I'll look for your answer.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Going, going, going.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		It's Bill from Alberta, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bill.
unidentified		What I wanted to question about is what do you think that the name of this place would be, like, say from these, if people were off-world, obviously they wouldn't use the name Earth.
unidentified		What do you think the rest of the universe would call?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would call us?
unidentified		Yeah.
		I think that would be a good question for a man in black.
		Another question you might ask is, obviously, off this world, we do not, like the first guy, he just about got it dead on, actually, the passage of time or measuring the motion through space, they obviously use a different system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps they would consider us like a dining hall.
unidentified		Actually, that's the savagery of that's pretty close to the actual name of this place.
		It's made reference to how we smoke incarnate beings, you know what I'm saying?
		Sure.
		And so that's the kind of label we got, but that's beside the point.
		Anyway, what do you think some of the duties and responsibilities of cosmic citizenship are going to be?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that you could derive the answer to that by making a list of what we're doing right now and turning it around.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And one other quick thing, if I've got another couple seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Is there's no such thing as time travel because that totally, completely interferes with free will and choice and whatever else from that particular point of view.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how the heck do you know that you have free will?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You think you're making choices.
unidentified		Okay, I'm a self-aware automaton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's no way you can prove it.
unidentified		That I'm a self-aware automaton?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's no way you can prove that you have free will.
unidentified		Well, I can prove that if I go back in time, I can manipulate other people's free will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are on the air with me right now.
		How do you know that was not absolutely destined?
		How do you know you of free will made the choice to call me?
unidentified		How do I know that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I'm going to bow up gracefully on this one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you consider that and get back to me.
unidentified		Thanks, guys.
unidentified		Have a great day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller, actually, utility line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Good evening.
unidentified		I bought your book today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did?
unidentified		Yes, and I am just, I bought it at Barnes and Noble, and I tell you, I am thrilled.
		And I tell you, I started reading it, and I go, oh, boy.
		Anyway, you had a guest on the other night talking about Halebop dropping some kind of a plant pathogen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was Major Ed Dames from SciTech.
unidentified		Yes, does he have any books out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He does not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What he has out is the beginning of a series of videotapes to instruct one on how to remote view.
unidentified		Yes, and I don't know anything about remote viewing, so I don't want to sound like I'm ignorant, but I'm really, I've listened to you for about two weeks straight now, and I really like your program.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear Dr. Holland last night?
		Yes, I did.
		He explained, I think very rationally, how remote viewing works, and in fact, that it does work, and it's scientifically verifiable.
unidentified		And I call that number to get the Module 1?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes?
unidentified		And then you can start doing the remote viewing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that really the real meat of the how-to part of the tapes is in Module 2, but you've got to take it in order.
		Module 1 is critically important to an understanding of what it's all about.
		So Module 2 is about to be out right now.
		All you can get is Module 1.
unidentified		Module 1.
		Let me ask you something.
		In your book here that you're writing, Today's Trends, Tomorrow's World, I was talking to somebody about this today in a store.
		How do we prepare for all this?
		It's happening so fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's like an acceleration point, and it's like uncomprehendible for most Americans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You want my real answer?
unidentified		Yeah, really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Prepare for it spiritually.
		Spiritually.
		Because there's nothing you can do to change what's going to occur.
		And I don't mean to be pessimistic.
		I'm just telling you it's happening.
		I'm not pessimistic, nor am I optimistic.
		I am an observer, somebody who chronicles what's going on, and I'm telling you that it's coming.
		So my advice to you is to prepare spiritually.
		Beyond that, if you have a family, just do rational things.
		Have water on hand.
		Have some spare power.
		Have a radio that will work like the one that Sea Crane sells.
		Blah, blah, blah.
		And do those things, those minimal things.
		Don't go crazy.
		Don't go out and get fatigues and blah, blah.
		But just prepare.
		And prepare, most of all, in your own mind.
unidentified		And what about this plant pathogen?
		Wouldn't that burn up in the Earth's atmosphere?
		He was talking about that the other night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		He has seen, is like the man who saw the future.
		In other words, he has remote-viewed what is going to occur, and he said it is going to make it to land or disperse in the atmosphere over Africa.
		And it will begin in Africa.
		It's not what I'm saying.
		It's what Ed Dames has said.
		And will then spread to the rest of the world.
		I know.
unidentified		Yeah, we had a friend of ours discover some crop circles up in Smithfield.
		And this was the day after the 4th of July.
		And they were on Strange Universe the other night.
		And, you know, to me, it was, I don't know, I have a hard time believing that it's not aliens.
		And I think all, you know, I went to Cooper, Bill Cooper seminar five years ago in 92 in San Diego.
		And that's when I really, really, really woke up.
		And I don't want to sound like I'm a goof because five years ago I told people about UFOs and they looked at me as if I was nuts.
		But now that the government has come out and they've lied about it and they've told the truth, I mean, it's just all these lies are accelerating so fast that the people can't comprehend what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you, sir.
		So just sort of keep yourself centered.
		That's my advice.
		All right?
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care.
		That's it, folks.
		Bud Hopkins is on Dreamland Sunday, and I'll see you then from a stormy southwest.

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