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July 30, 1997 - Art Bell
03:21:50
Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Robert Ghostwolf - Earth Changes
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♪♪♪ From the high desert and the great American Southwest,
I bid you all good evening or good morning, as the case may be,
across all these many prolific time zones, from the Hawaiian and Tunisian island chains in the West,
to the Caribbean, and the U.S.
Virgin Islands way out east South into South America, North to the Bull, and worldwide on the Internet.
This is Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Art Bell.
And it is, believe me, great to be here this morning.
And we will continue to be here, weather permitting.
And when I say that, I really mean it.
We have had some truly severe weather problems connected with our network.
As you know, or maybe you don't know, we were struck by lightning here.
Actually struck by lightning, but boom!
And that took away some equipment that surely does explain my absence last evening as we were working feverishly, living redone, and now this evening, as we speak, our network facility in Oregon is experiencing their own version of what I had, and the lightning crackles and the storms have been passing overhead very violently indeed.
And now it's synchronistic because tonight's guest is Robert Ghostwolf.
He is a Native American.
And we're going to be talking to him a little bit about the weather, the strange changing weather.
As a matter of fact at some point later in the program no doubt we will hear from Stan Dale in Australia who has a very great deal to say about the weather and really called the building terrible El Nino in the Pacific.
He called that one right on the money.
I want to tell you that tomorrow evening there is going to be a surprise guest with a surprise topic with Earth Shaking ramifications.
And I'm not going to disclose the nature of it beyond that.
So you do not want to miss what happens tomorrow evening.
That's one.
Two, on Friday night, Saturday morning, the following night, we will hear from David Oates, as promised, with the reversals on Colonel Philip J. Corso.
Don't you wonder?
Was he congruent?
Was he telling us like it was?
Well, we'll find out tomorrow night.
That, and a lot more with David John Oates as my guest, and of course, reverse speech the topic of Friday night, Saturday morning.
Again, mark a big X. That would be appropriate.
Mark a big X on the calendar for tomorrow night.
You don't want to miss that, and certainly you're not going to want to miss what's about to occur With Robert Ghostwolf.
Old friend, here he is, Robert Ghostwolf.
I believe from probably up near Spokane, Washington somewhere.
Is that right?
That's right, Art.
Welcome to the program.
Good to have you back.
Good to be back.
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
Robert, give us your background.
You're Native American and you're kind of a mixture Native American, aren't you?
I'm what they call a metasaur.
I'm a mixed blood.
I have Lakota and Iroquois.
I have been working again with elders for 25 years, going around, talking, working,
collecting stones and finding out different truths.
It's been a pretty incredible journey.
And dancing.
And dancing.
You're a great dancer.
You're a Native American dancer.
Yes.
And basically I got caught up in, I guess about two years ago, because of the work that
I was doing and people heard what I was saying.
A lot of what we were probably going to be talking about tonight with the weather and
all of that I have out in my book, Last Cry, which I think you have a copy of.
I do.
It is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.
I'm almost sorry.
Is it going to come out in that same way as a final finished product?
No, it's going to be in a paperback next month.
Next month?
Next month it's going to be released.
The distributors are releasing it in a paperback.
We still have a few of the manuscripts left.
Let me tell you, it's one of the most beautiful manuscripts I've ever seen.
The paperback is never going to live up to it.
I'm sure it'll sell well, but it'll never live up to this.
No, it won't.
Be honest with people.
But then again, I won't have to stay up until 3 o'clock in the morning hand-assembling them.
Oh, that's true.
You do good work, Ben.
You hand assemble them?
I'm trying to put them together by hand.
Oh, man.
It's just startlingly beautiful.
Thank you.
And we'll tell everybody how to get it as the show goes on.
All right, look, there's been a lot of water under the bridge in more ways than one since we last talked.
There are things going on that I think are more than just initial little canary-type warning signs for humanity, and I don't even know where to start.
Linda Moulton Howe had an extended report on Dreamland this last Sunday that I repeated a couple of nights ago on Fisteria, this cell-from-hell thing which was in the estuaries of North Carolina.
It is spread into the ocean, surviving very well, thank you, in the salt water, and there are millions, not hundreds of thousands, but millions of fish with large, open, bleeding sores, dying off the coast.
Now, that's a fact.
This is on the East Coast?
Yeah, that's on the East Coast.
And it's spreading up and down the coast at a very rapid pace, and worse yet, it's beginning to be transmitted to human beings, who now, in many areas, simply cannot any longer go in the water, period.
And the only advice they're giving is, if you see dead fish, don't go in the water.
That is one item.
You can look at Antarctica, where the ozone now is beginning to get so thick and so bad, That they're getting actual DNA changes in simple-celled organisms.
Our school children have to wear headgear when they go outside.
We've got frogs with a gazillion legs.
I had a story of one with eleven legs the other day.
I talked to Bob Crane earlier tonight, a couple hours ago.
He lives up in Fortuna, California, up where the Redwoods are.
And he said, Art, I've never seen anything like it.
The leaves are turning yellow and falling off the trees.
He said this has never, ever happened before.
My crops are ripening early.
I just got a message from Salt Lake City saying the NBC affiliate there reported that Fish and Game has spotted migratory birds flying south already.
Birds flying south in July.
The middle of September maybe, but July?
Seasons don't fear the reaper.
In other words, everywhere you turn and look at Mother Nature and Earth, something is going on, Robert.
Mark, it's a show.
Something is definitely going on.
I myself, just coming up from Arizona, up through Montana, there are flocks of geese flying south, so I will affirm that report.
I mean whole flocks of geese flying south.
And what surprised me too when I was down in Arizona, which I didn't expect, was the... Well, I didn't see an eleven-legged frog, but I did see a six-legged frog.
Great!
And jackrabbits for three and four years.
Really?
Yeah, jackrabbits for three and four years.
I've never seen that.
Well, I've never seen it in the desert, which has really got me concerned, because if it's in the desert, then it's all over.
You know, it's not just coming down a river.
It's just all over.
It's animal mutations, which goes back to your DNA situation.
Now, what I can say about it is that we are going through tremendous electromagnetic fluctuations of the poles.
They're shifting.
The poles on the sun are shifting, and this information has been coming out for a while.
I know people say you're nuts.
The poles are shifting.
Right.
Well, they've got to keep changing the flight patterns on the planes when they come in, because it keeps shifting.
Every few weeks they have to adjust.
They're beginning to notice quite a significant oscillation in true north.
There's no question about that.
I confirm that.
With regard to the sun, there's also a very interesting thing going on, Robert.
I'm a ham operator, and so I monitor Very carefully, the sun cycle, because you know when we have a good portion of the sun cycle, ham radio is good, and you can transmit long distances with very low power, and we have all been waiting for this cycle to begin, and strangely, inexplicably, it has not begun.
We are at the bottom, and we don't seem to be able to get off the bottom, so something's going on there too.
And the thing to understand is that we Every form of life on this planet is affected by vibration, to put it simply.
Scientists can tell what parasite is in your body by the frequency that it emits.
They can tell where there's a problem in an organ based on the frequency.
Sound technology has really grown.
As a matter of fact, when I was in Roswell, I was listening to a man down there who maybe one day you might consider having on your show, David Adar.
He's a rocket scientist.
He just spoke before Congress about the Project Star Wars.
One of the interesting things that he brought out with his documents and photographs is that what they're doing is they are building a factory in space.
For the purposes of manufacturing, at this point, different types of metal that can be formed by using sound and tone in zero gravity.
Who is building a factory?
We would say the world governments.
At this point, it's a conglomeration of Russia, the United States, Canada, and the European market.
The experiments were supported very heavily by BMW.
Really?
And Mercedes here to see how they could mold metal in zero gravity and one of the phenomena that they found out that would happen under zero gravity.
It's like when you make metal here, there are weak spots and there are what they call hot spots in the metal and cold spots.
Basically, you take metal, you pour it into a cold form and it reacts to the cold form and then it settles and it gets hot spots and cold spots.
Little flaws in everything that's produced.
But in zero gravity, that doesn't occur.
Plus, what happens is the perfect alignment of the molecules, the molecular structure of the metal, creates a self-lubricating metal.
Now, the implication of that would be that you could make engines that never wear out, that never need oil.
A self-lubricating metal.
And this is quite an incredible project that's going on.
I don't think most of us are aware of, and I haven't seen it in the news myself, which would have tremendous implications on industry.
Yes, it would.
From what David was showing us, there would be absolutely no problem in us manufacturing the same kind of metal conformations that we saw in the pieces of scrap that were found at Roswell, with the folds in the metal and the seven layers.
In zero gravity, that can be attained.
So, again, it goes into frequency.
Well, with what we are doing presently to our planet, we had better be exploring and looking for other places to live.
You consult with elders.
What do the elders tell you?
I mean, if anybody would know and feel what's going on, it would be Native Americans.
With the Earth, they're closer than any of us.
What do they know?
What do they feel?
That we are in the final days of this dream, that we are at a point where we have absolute choice in the outcome of what's going to occur.
However, we have to now face the karma of everything that we have done up to this point.
We cannot escape the deeds of our thoughts.
Nor can we escape the deeds of our actions.
There are many reasons why the earth is cattywampus.
At this point, we have done a tremendous amount of genetic manipulation in laboratories, and we have let some of these creatures go, whether they were microbiotic or whether they were insect.
I mean, I have seen so many different kinds of insects in the desert lately.
I don't know if you've been out looking at bugs, but you can learn a lot looking at bugs.
You can learn a lot looking at bugs?
There's a lot of really strange looking bugs.
I don't care what books you look in, there is nothing to define what these things are.
Up in Montana, I was shown a new kind of, they call it a bee fly.
It's sort of like a bumblebee with the head of a fly.
Wonderful!
And I was like, well, they did say that new forms of life would be appearing, and I knew that new life forms were appearing as far as microbiotic life in the ocean.
I know that the plankton was mutating, and this DNA structural change, that the reasons for this DNA structural change have to do, one, with frequency, and two, with the toxicity that we have basically buried all over this earth.
You can't keep eating poison without having an effect.
And so we're dealing with now, what, 50 years since World War II, basically?
Yes, sir.
But what did they do with all the chemicals after World War II, or a large amount of them, was they created all sorts of phenomenal insecticides so that we could grow crops without insects and bugs.
And so now we've been eating that for 50 years, and so has everything else.
Now, this is a direct reason for seeing a lot of these physical mutations in life.
Interestingly, the fistaria I mentioned with the millions of fish, what's happening to those fish is, when they die, they're being eaten by the birds.
Yes.
Now, that's going to lead to a change for the birds.
I don't know who eats the birds, but I mean that's the way it works, isn't it?
It's a sort of change.
You're going to have a change in the birds.
The birds fly over.
They leave their droppings.
The little berry trees grow from their droppings.
Then they turn into little berry bushes, and the bears eat the berry bushes, and then you may have a five-legged bear.
We're seeing a lot of that.
We're also seeing a lot of, from the elders' point of view, what you're seeing is that the The balance in nature has been so damaged and thrown out of balance that there is not, by the cutting of grandfather trees, by the wholesale slaughtering of whole species of animals, by programs that are being initiated to restore wildlife to certain areas, but it's not being done in balance.
There's a lot that needs to be looked at before you start to bring wolves back to a certain area, or what kind of wolf are you bringing back.
For instance, in New Mexico, I know that they're bringing back the red wolf, and the red Mexican wolf is actually a coyote hybrid.
It's not a wolf.
So, it doesn't really belong in that area.
Then you go to another area and you chop down a certain type of tree, and then you plant another tree, because it's a good timber crop.
But that's not necessarily what would have grown there.
This is throwing everything out of whack to such a degree that now the animals themselves no longer can relate to the consciousness of the animal world.
They are now picking up human traits.
And I said, what do you mean they're picking up human traits?
And they're saying, well, they're becoming vicious, they're fighting with each other, there's cannibalism going on in the forest.
There is a true profound basic change going on.
So it's sort of like the way we fight with each other and tear each other down and picking
up our attitudes.
There is a true profound basic change going on.
And one of the things that I remember Hopi Older saying to me once, he said, one day
when the final days come, he says, you'll be taking a picnic and the rabbits will turn
around and attack you.
And was it just a few weeks ago that we heard a story about some children down in Arizona
being attacked by coyotes?
I mean, that's never been heard of.
Coyotes are usually a mile away from people.
Oh, they don't like people at all.
The coyotes out here, the yotes out here, are very shy, and they will go way out of their way to get out of your way, or at least that's the way it's always been.
And I hope it stays that way here, because we've got a lot of them.
Robert, hold on.
We're at the bottom of the hour.
When we come back, I want to ask you about something called the Ghost Dance, alright?
Alright, stay right there.
Robert Ghostwolf is my guest and we are just beginning.
I'm going to play a little bit of the music.
That's a long story, but we'll try to make it short for the listeners.
There are a lot of stories about the ghost dance, and I think most of the people are familiar with the story of the ghost dance.
It was remembered, unfortunately, in a bad occurrence that wounded me.
Where the Lakota were going to a ghost dance and they were basically massacred just a few days before Christmas.
That led from a movement that was going through America around 1890s, late 1880s, that was coined in the eastern newspapers as the Messiah Movement, which was originated by a Paiute medicine man, Wavoka, who I just found out the other day.
His grandson is alive and well and will be attending the Ghost Dance that we're going to be doing in Montana here in a few weeks.
If the Sundance is a male energy, then the Ghost Dance is a feminine energy.
The Ghost Dance has to do with the raising of spirituality and coming into a peaceful way of changing things when they have reached the point that they
must be changed.
When you have reached a paradigm that can no longer go any farther, when everything
that it keeps touching becomes self-destructive, then something has got to change.
And what has got to change in order to affect a good outcome has got to basically be a global
vision.
It has got to be a unified vision.
In my research on the ghost dance, and as I traveled, I was very, very surprised to
find out that there were many, many stories about ghost dance or a ceremony that could
be the same as the ghost dance all over the world.
I found stories from the Maori in New Zealand, from the Inca in Peru, from the Mayans down in Central America, and from various tribes all here in North America, each one having their own story of a ghost dance and the fact that in fact it all tied to a prophet that seemed to have, it was the same prophet that spoke to all of these people.
This occurred approximately 2,000 years ago and this prophet brought forth a teaching of love and humanity.
and caring for each other and putting war-like tendencies aside, putting our killer instincts, warrior instincts down and working with things in another fashion.
The Go Stance that we're holding now will be the first of five.
I've been asked to do one in Hawaii with the Kahunas and the Incas in November.
What does the Ghost Dance really mean?
The Ghost Dance means that we move through time and space.
We collapse time.
I'm using contemporary jargon now.
So that there is no past, there is no future.
What does the ghost dance mean?
The ghost dance means that we move through time and space.
We collapse time.
I am using contemporary jargon now.
So that there is no past, there is no future.
We totally connect to the spirits of our ancestors, which are in fact us.
We connect to the energy that we were, not the energy that we are.
Considering in this point in time, we have come to a degenerative energy.
We are degenerating as a social and spiritual being on this plane.
We are falling apart.
There's a malaise everywhere.
We don't have to go into the obvious.
It's going on everywhere.
It can be a doom and gloom story.
We have simply reached a point where we have to reconnect with our spirituality.
From the work that I am doing with the elders on this, this must be a unified effort.
It's a lot of realizing what you were talking about a few nights ago with Dan and Brinkley.
Once you've been to the other side, once you see the connection to the foreverness of what you are, Then you can draw the power to change what you're in now.
But if all you see is what you are in now, if the only dream you have, if the only vision that you have is shrouded by negativity and pessimism and self-doubt, then how can you possibly create something new?
You have to move to another place to see something new.
Is that like saying there has to be a change before the new beginning?
Yes, there has to be a change before the new beginning.
Now, the other stories about the ghost dance, and there are many, there are hundreds of stories, and it's not a well-known story.
You could probably travel for thirty years, because I have, and find maybe one elder in one area who remembers or is known or is given the stories of the ghost dance that was given A piece of the ghost dance.
Maybe one elder was given an altar.
Maybe another elder was given songs.
Another elder knows the dances.
Another elder knows the stories.
Each one knows a part.
There's a wonderful situation that's created by that, in that it takes the gathering of all people together to create this.
In this time, it was felt that we have, when you asked me the original question a little while ago, what are the elders saying?
What the elders are saying is that we're at the end of the dream.
The dream that we have dreamed thus far can go no farther.
It is exhausted.
There is nothing new.
There is no life coming out of the dream.
There is no creativity coming out of the dream.
The children aren't being fed.
The elders aren't being fed.
The earth isn't being taken care of.
We are going in a spiral where we are more and more, with the passing of each moment and each day, out of sync with ourselves and our relationships with the earth.
It's reached the point now where we can't even drink the water that used to cure us because it's tainted.
We can't even go collect the herbs because they're not there.
In many places where we go to collect the healing herbs, they're not there anymore.
They're simply not growing.
So when you reach a point that everything, and everyone's got cancer.
And what is cancer but the absolute rebellion of the human cells against life itself.
And when your cells rebel against you, it's like that's the final warning.
There's no place to go from here.
So what the ghost dance does, the word ghost is I think more or less a term that was put out of translation.
My remembrances of what the elders spoke about in their languages.
It would be more like the spirit dance, the dance with the beings beyond, where we literally connect to our inner spirits and bring out the strength of what that is.
We change consciousness by will.
It's strange that you should mention cancer because the American Cancer Society has had a lot of money in a long time and they've been making a lot of promises, but the fact of the matter is If you really look at the statistics, for example, non-related cancers of the lungs and so forth, non-smoking related cancers for men since World War II are up 300%.
two are off three hundred percent three hundred percent now this is not a battle
300%.
that it sounds like we're winning despite the best most optimistic
statements of the American Cancer Society you're quite right
Cancer is on the increase in many forms.
Isn't what's going on in the ocean cancer?
Well, cancer... I mean, if we look at the earth as a sentient being... I'm not a doctor, Robert, but cancer is an uncontrolled growth of cells, out-of-control growth of cells.
Okay.
If I'm not being a doctor, I'll share with you.
Yes, it is.
But is it also not the characteristic of cancer to destroy the very host that gives it life?
Correct.
So if we look at the characteristic of it, if you look at the behavior of it, is that not what is happening throughout the world?
That the fact that the oceans are now destroying the very thing that gives it life?
Yes.
So we're seeing it in the woods, we're seeing it in the trees, whatever you want to call that the trees are dying from now.
And it's filtering down through all life forms.
And we're seeing the mutation of genetics, DNA.
We're seeing the mutation of the very substance that makes up what that being is, whether it's the chicken or the egg that we eat or the fish that we eat or the vegetable that we eat.
We're then taking in that mutated gene or that mutated cell and it in turn is We're not giving us cancer.
We're feeding ourselves.
Yeah, we are.
Referring to a couple of things, a lot of people have suggested that these mutated frogs and so forth are a result of some sort, perhaps they say, some sort of parasite and that may explain it.
It does not explain why it's occurring not just here, but worldwide.
In Japan, in Europe, it's occurring everywhere.
Parasites tend to be a more localized problem.
And so, at the end of the day, they say, well, we think it could or might be parasites, but we really don't know.
With regard to the hysteria causing millions of fish to die, this is apparent... it's called the cell from hell.
And this is a little jewel that apparently, according to Linda Malthouse and other scientists, lies at the bottom of fresh or salt water and waits like a little ticking bacteriological time bomb.
And when enough pollutants, pesticides, reach it, it activates.
It comes alive and it begins eating living things.
Yes.
Fish, human flesh, that kind of thing.
That's what's going on.
That's a... Mutated life form.
Yes.
And it also, that would support Bouchamp's theory, where we go to I don't think so.
You basically come from two schools of thought.
You have Louis Pasteur and monomorphism and then you have Bouchon who has got pluromorphism
which is that life will adapt and take on many forms.
When we die, they put us in a little box and they seal it up hermetically and we spend
a lot of money for that and then they put us into the ground and if you were to go back
a couple of months later and pick up that box you would find all sorts of creepy crawlies
in there.
Where do they come from?
Everything was taken out.
The blood was taken out.
Formaldehyde was put in.
Everything was taken out that would sustain life and yet life mutates and all of a sudden
you have a new life form.
If you go to places that I've been shown where they dump nuclear waste and some of these
things are leaking and there's nothing growing and nothing can grow.
Yes.
What you'll see, the first, you'll see mutated life forms coming up out of the nuclear waste.
You'll see bacteria growing on the nuclear waste.
Let me tell you, my friend, you're exactly right.
I talked to a Newsweek reporter on the QT earlier today who said that they are observing some really horrid little things that are occurring and I'm going to be reporting on this at a certain place where Nuclear waste is being simply dumped into water supplies.
It's unbelievable.
And the contamination that's going on, and I know this makes us sound like radical environmentalists, but I think that there is nothing radical about simply observing what's going on.
Now you can Put a spin on it, or you can report on it honestly, and I have been trying to report on it honestly.
What I see is profound and awful, and it seems to me that there is a tremendous event just down the line a little bit, and maybe that's kind of what Ghost Dance is all about.
Maybe it's this coming change.
Well, it's like we are a life form.
You and I, we're a life form, and when the environment becomes such that that life form can no longer exist, then what's going to happen is that that life form is going to take a hollow leap, it's going to take a jump, it's going to mutate, and that's what's happening.
What we're going through is the experiencing of it happening on so many different levels at once.
All right, I want my audience to hear something.
This is too synchronistic not to do.
You heard it months ago.
It's my favorite group in all the world.
Robert, so rest for a moment.
This, ladies and gentlemen, after our discussion, I think you ought to hear.
This is Cusco.
No, it isn't.
That's not Cusco.
That isn't what I want.
That's a very nice song, but that isn't what I want.
This is Cusco.
And, uh, this is something called Ghost Dance, and I'm gonna do something I don't normally do, and I'm gonna let it go.
Listen very carefully.
Michael Holm and Cusco.
It's called Ghost Dance.
It's a dance that's a little bit more than a ghost dance.
From the high desert, this is CBC.
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Good morning from the high desert.
That's Ghost Dance.
That's Cusco.
It's return to Native America.
The first cut on a Pro Mac 3.
Nobody can get it yet.
But I've got good relationship with those folks and IROC have sent that to me and it's too synchronistic not to be into this night.
My guest is Robert Ghostwolf and we'll get back to him shortly.
We're talking about the state How did you like Ghost Dance?
I love it.
I think it's a really intriguing piece.
And again, I believe that group comes out of Germany, don't they?
Interestingly, absolutely yes.
They come out of Germany, which is another affirmation.
There is a global cry going out for something to happen with the human spirit.
People don't really want to sit back and listen to metaphysical rhetoric anymore.
They want to see something happen.
When we work with those drums and we dance, it brings us into a trance.
It brings us into another level.
The drum is the oldest instrument that we have.
It's been a brother to the human race for a long time.
And the dance frees all of the bodies.
It frees the mental body, the spiritual body, the physical body and brings them into unity.
And this is part of what we're hoping with the ghost dance that everyone, if we can get everyone, and I know that there are some people out there who don't want everyone.
They would rather that the world didn't know about it.
They would rather that the world didn't do the ghost dance, that everybody didn't wake up.
And I think that based on the letter that you just read, One of the concerning problems that we have is not necessarily the condition.
We can see the condition, but we have the ability to change the condition.
What we don't seem to have anymore is the attitude to want to change the condition.
We just go, oh yeah, okay, and then we hop in our car and go to work at the computer factory.
Some things have got to happen to wake up the fire in humanity to realize that we do have the power to change things.
We can change the earth in a very short period of time.
There are things going on right now, Art, with technology that are being worked on.
Technology is not an evil thing.
It's an incredible thing if it's used in the proper manner.
There's technology going on right now that we can literally alter the earth's atmosphere and bring it back to where it was A thousand years ago, ten thousand years ago, we can replace it.
There are experiments going on in Mexico City where this was proven that we could reverse the pollution, we could reverse all of this.
So the concern really is how do we change the attitude of complacency to an attitude of positive shift?
How do we?
We simply have to...
You know, we can only talk so much.
That's the great thing about a dance.
We can only talk so much and then we dance.
We purify, we go through sweat lodge or whatever our purification means, or it doesn't matter because the Tibetan is going to do it different than the Hindu who is going to do it different than the Inca who is going to do it different than the Cherokee who is going to do it different than the Chilean priest.
I was talking to a man from Japan who simply said he was a spiritual elder and he was telling about a school that they have over there in northern Japan, which basically translates to the School of the Green Dragon.
To graduate from this school, what one must do is they must hold within their hands a seed, and they must, through the will of their consciousness, make this seed germinate and grow and turn into a plant in a matter of a few minutes.
This is what they do.
They can do that?
The powers of the human mind are absolutely unlimited.
This is one of the initiations that you go through with this particular group before you are considered a green dragon priest.
We have the ability to change anything that we deal with, with our minds, simply by the way we look at it.
On the one hand, we can say, the waters are polluted, this is happening.
At the same time, it's giving us a warning that there's something to be done, and we can do it.
But why don't we want to do it?
This is what's making the elders wonder that I speak to.
It's like, well, what's happening to people?
People are just laying down.
They're not fighting.
They don't want to change situations.
They keep talking about all the stuff that's poisoning us and our food, but they don't want to go out and they don't want to grow a garden.
I know.
So how can you complain about what you're getting from the supermarket when all you have to do is go out in your backyard and plant a ten-by-ten lot in that plot and you would have enough to eat for the whole year?
Could it be that people have accepted the fact that the change is going to occur and they're simply apathetic about it?
I wrote a book, as you know, called The Quickening.
I know that's going on and most of my audience knows it's going on.
It documents what's happening.
It doesn't say what's going to happen because I don't know.
You more likely would have knowledge about that.
I just know what's happening, but I wonder if people have sort of just accepted this as one of those things that's so far beyond the realm of their personal ability to create change that they just throw up their hands and they're just going to sit back and become spectators.
I think it's a syndrome of the communication age.
We're being so over-inundated right now with information that we almost feel powerless to do anything.
It can almost put us in a paralytic situation.
It's like you're hearing about all of these things going on, so what happens is that the human being tends to just shut off.
They shut down.
It's like, well, what can I possibly do?
How can I get this letter to Bruce Babbitt?
Why would Bruce Babbitt listen to me?
Even if I did get the letter, what would it do?
And this is part of what somehow everyone has got to change, simply by wanting it to change, simply by participating more and working more with other people.
It's people working with people.
We're in a society now here in North America where we have every culture and every religion in the world here.
I mean, you almost don't even have to go out to the rest of the world.
It's all here.
It is.
Whatever you want to find, it's here.
Even the Dalai Lama is here.
Whatever you want to find, it's here.
That's a tremendous opportunity for people to learn about how to participate and how to understand and broaden their visions.
Because if we don't work together as a humanity, we are now...
How many sightings have been seen just over the last 60 days across the world, never mind just America?
Increasing numbers.
It's hundreds.
It's like every day you get on it, you're hearing something, another phenomenon.
May I ask you about the crop circles?
We've done a lot on this program with regard to crop circles lately, Robert.
As a matter of fact, there are some incredible crop circles out there.
God, they're unbelievable!
We've only got a few.
I mean this season the crop circles ostensibly began in about 1989 or 90 with very simple formations.
And every year they've become more complex and more frequent.
And this year, you don't want to use the phrase out of control I guess, but it's almost out of control.
They're occurring so quickly and they are so complex That we cannot even keep up with them on my website, where we try to chronicle these things.
I would urge everybody to go up and take a look.
They're astounding.
Have you seen the most recent?
Yes, I have.
They're absolutely amazing.
I don't think that Ben and Jerry are doing this.
Well, Ben and Jerry are ice cream guys.
I think it was whoever.
Anyway, I know they're not.
They are.
They're happening with such frequency.
In so many areas, all over, it's almost like it's become a game.
It's like we turn around and we say, well, we know who did this, and this was done this way, and well, there was this technology that was used this way, and they probably used some sort of computers here.
And then it's like what happens is a few days later, whatever or whoever is causing these things to happen, simply go, well, okay, deal with this.
And then all of a sudden we'll see 12 of them come on.
Yes.
Of the most incredible geometry that you could conceive.
And there are so many variations in that.
I mean some of those things that you had up there were like snowflakes.
Oh yeah.
You have sacred geometry all over the place.
There's a lot of, I haven't even had time, I've been so inundated at looking at them, but there's a lot of similarities between some of those shapes and electronic symbols.
There's a lot of similarities between some of those shapes that I'm seeing and sacred geometry and DNA, the symbols that are used for DNA.
That's correct, yes.
And it's just like, art is like ten, twelve a week.
I know.
When I was coming up a few weeks ago from the second crash at Roswell, that was quite a story.
Roswell was funny.
So when I was coming up, I was driving through Logan, Utah, and within a period of six days, they had five of them appear.
That's right!
Five of them appear, and people were just sitting there looking, and you really didn't know what to say.
I had the opportunity to walk through four of them, and the four that I walked through, based on the information that we have on how we can tell whether it's a crop circle or whether it might have been manipulated.
I mean the way the stalks were bent over and not broken, and the way the little nubs around where each section of the plant goes through a growing spurt were swollen as if affected by some sort of heat, and the way magnets would disorientate when you were in those areas, and then what happens to you physically when you're standing in one of those.
It seems from what I've seen from physical experience of walking in them.
That within four days, the energy starts to dissipate.
But if you're fortunate enough to get into one that has just formed, or that is within two or three days old, it's like what happens to the magnets and what happens to your mind.
You just open up to all sorts of thoughts.
It's really a phenomenon.
Meanwhile, here on earth, at one o'clock yesterday, bombs went off.
People committed suicide to kill civilians in Jerusalem.
Few suicide bombers.
18 Israelis dead.
Scores wounded.
This is an area that's getting ready, I'm afraid, to explode again.
They thought they had it all under control, the peace process.
There is no peace process.
The Arabs want the Israelis dead.
That hasn't changed.
Yes, or Arafat either doesn't have control or doesn't want to control what his people are doing.
The Middle East is ready to go up in flames.
I can feel it in my bones.
And I just, Robert, don't see mankind treating mankind any better.
I don't see an improvement.
For the most part, I would have to agree.
But at the same time, I see these incredible things happening through the cracks of the confusion.
Does that make any sense?
It's almost like everything is fracturing, but through the fractures I'm seeing little glimpses of light.
I'm seeing incredible work being done by people.
I mean, Dan is doing incredible work with people.
Absolutely.
And people are just responding to this.
If there's a similarity in the work that we do, it's taking fear out of people.
It's like there really isn't any reason to fear.
We are so disempowered as a people.
We have become so disempowered.
It's a global situation.
I don't think it's a local situation.
We have become so disempowered as a people.
That was the pioneer spirit.
What happened to that drive?
What people have lost is their drive and goals, because they see no vision of the future.
There was a day in America where we always had something out in front of us.
We were going to win a war, an important and moral war for the world, and we had a goal.
There was a day when we decided we were going to go to the moon, and it took the better
part of a decade, but we did it.
Now we don't set goals like that anymore.
The biggest goal most Americans seem to have is to get to Friday or Saturday, the end of
the week, so they can sit down in front of the TV and do whatever they're better at.
Wouldn't it be great to create a goal where people actually do what they're better at?
actually flourished in peace, wouldn't that be an incredible goal?
It seems like somehow the human animal has lost the ability to live in peace.
The only time that we feel confident that something is happening is if we're creating something under pressure, under stress, or for war.
If we're a country, we try to create a war and we create a justification for why we're moving and it shoots the blood back to industry.
If we're just living in peace, people don't know how to live in peace anymore.
They don't know how to enjoy themselves.
Maybe it is our basic nature, and I've wondered about this frequently.
We are a warrior people.
Even your ancestors were warrior people.
And maybe it's our basic nature, and maybe that isn't going to change, and maybe that is going to, in the end, dictate our future, or lack of it.
I don't know.
Can you make that kind of profound change in people who are basically warriors?
Listen, it's the bottom of the hour, and that's something to contemplate for a few minutes, so hold on.
My guest is Robert Ghostwolf.
I would think that you'd want to sit down and listen very carefully, and yes, we will get the phone lines open shortly.
Robert is a Native American, but he's really no different than any of the rest of you.
Oh, by the way, my book, which I have authored, called The Quickening, is available nationwide.
Barnes & Noble, bookstores, and more.
Go into a bookstore and ask for it.
It's called The Quickening by Art Belk.
In all bookstores now, nationwide.
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I think this will be resonant with what we have just been discussing.
Art, remember, first of all, let me tell you, remember we were talking about how people, I think, feel powerless to change and they have become observers?
This is typical.
Art, you know what I hate about environmentalists?
They keep using the word, we.
This collective We implies that we actually have control over what they, in quotes, do.
And by they, I mean those who actually control this country and most of the world.
So here's somebody who clearly feels that they are doing this to us and we, a misnomer in his opinion, Yeah, but you know, I'd like to say to Frank that they control only what we no longer are concerned with.
You should think about that thought.
When we no longer participate, someone is going to take care of it.
When we no longer are concerned about what's happening with our national forests, someone else is going to take care of it.
When we suddenly hear that, and it was what a few weeks ago, that basically essentially all of the national parks are now under the control of the UN, I mean that like sent a shockwave, or we start to hear about the slaughter of the buffalo in Montana, which by the way, that's quite a story.
I'm going to have a story up on my website about it.
It's underway now, isn't it?
Yeah, they're getting paid $500 a head for each buffalo they kill.
I mean, there's an incredible corruption story involved here.
If you're taking a move to do something, then there's no longer a they to do anything to the we.
It's when the we lays back and they hide their head like they use ostrich medicine.
That they are in control.
Let us discuss for a second what Hopi prophecy, what Native American prophecy in general has to say about what is going to happen.
Okay?
I'll do that if you let me give one message to you.
I just got a letter here from my staff.
Yeah, fire away.
There are 50 manuscripts left and they can get that up on my website.
His manuscripts are the single most beautiful thing that has ever been delivered onto my
hands.
I'm not kidding folks, these are beautiful.
But there are only 50?
There are 50 left and then they are going to have to wait for the book.
Maybe I could just tell them where they can contact us on that.
You ought to know that we have a link up of course from my website to yours.
It's called Last Cry, Native American Prophecies, Tales of the End Times.
It's quite extensive.
I'm going to be a good man.
And you put those together by hand.
Each one's put together by hand.
And the book took five years in the making.
I've never seen, and I've seen a lot of very good stuff, but I've never seen anything of that kind of quality.
It was amazing.
I mean, I just sat there and I went, wow.
Well anybody who calls up tonight and mentions your name, we're going to include a special
section in there on the ghost dance which will have the whole story of the ghost dance
which basically has not been told.
So that will be, and the ghost dance by the way is the story of the quickening.
When can they call this number?
They can call right now, there are people on the phones now.
509-465-1606.
Let me give it again, area code 509.
No I'll give it, let me give it.
509, area code, the number is 465-1606, but I'll tell you something, the 50 are going
to be gone in a couple of hours.
Then that's it until the book.
That's it for now.
The Hopis, yes, there are a lot of Hopi prophecies.
They go on endless.
We could spend a whole night just talking about the Hopi prophecies.
But the ones that deal with this specific time, the ones that I speak about on Last Cry, and it looks like I might even come out with a volume two, because there wasn't enough.
There was too much to put into one book.
What they see now at this time is that basically We have some time between now and the year 2003.
We're going to experience a major shift in energy, whether that's due to the various predictions about electromagnetic fields fluctuating.
There are stories about going into the three days of darkness.
Yes, we will go into three to three-and-a-half days of darkness.
Can you lay out a timeline?
I mean, that's very serious, three, three-and-a-half days of darkness.
You know, it's funny.
I once asked on the air, and somebody brought this up the other day, I asked the audience, what would happen if you woke up one morning, and you looked outside, and you looked at the clock, and the sun should be up, and the sun didn't come up?
Well, worldwide, there would be absolute complete I'm not talking about three days here, I'm talking about
the half of the first day when the sun didn't come up.
The first 45 minutes.
You got it.
The first 45 minutes.
There would be riots, looting, killing, rampaging.
It would be horrible.
People would figure it's the end of everything.
Of course, they might be right.
I don't know, but when might this three days of darkness come?
I'll give you some linear dates.
They're approximate dates.
The reason why they're approximate is not to be evasive or cute.
It's that what we are experiencing now is the collapsing of time.
We are experiencing the collapsing of our perception of time.
As the energies fluctuate and change, we ourselves are going in and out of periods
of no time, lost time.
We're moving in and out of past life recall.
We are moving in and out of recall of different events in our lives.
Sometimes we're lost for a couple of hours just remembering something that happened in an experience a few years ago in a relationship.
We're losing our sense of time.
There's an increase in Alzheimer's disease, which is frightening.
Basically, from what I've read, 70% of the people over 60 have Alzheimer's disease.
I mean that's frightening statistics and that comes from the doctors.
Some might argue that the reason for that is because we are collectively living longer.
And I suppose that's some of it.
But are you suggesting that Alzheimer's as a percentage for any given age group is increasing?
Yes.
As is cancer.
I'm seeing it in youth too.
I mean people are losing time.
Age is no longer a barrier.
It's no longer a requirement.
It's not a prerequisite.
It's like you don't have to hit 30 to hit it at 40.
I'm seeing it in teenagers.
Where were you?
What were you thinking about?
What were you doing there for four hours?
I think, from what I've studied and what I've experienced, it has to do with the fact that we are losing our minerals in our water, in our food.
And the minerals in the blood are what carry the information.
So if we're losing that which keeps us alive, we no longer have that which can record the information.
It would be like going to a tape on a tape recorder and going over it with a magnet and just changing things around and moving it.
It's really, really interesting you should mention that, because as you all know, Daniel came to visit me and it's one of the major messages he brought me, that we are losing our minerals.
In order to be healthy today, you've got to have all kinds of mineral supplements.
You talked to me about zinc and lots of other things.
We require a lot more today than we did 30 years ago.
We're dealing with so much more information.
We're dealing with a heightened metabolic rate of the human body.
So yeah, it's like essential, essential, essential.
And we're getting less and less and less and less and less.
We're talking that we're going to see a tremendous amount of social strife right now as things start to break down, as structures start to break down.
They are breaking down.
These are no longer prophecies of things to come.
They are now explanations of what we are experiencing.
We are experiencing financial structures, the science community.
I can no longer explain the phenomenons that are going on in the skies and in the earth.
The financial institutions are basically crumbling and running at a dodge, trying to figure out what to do.
It's scary how many people are homeless now across the whole nation.
We're supposed to be the best, strongest, wealthiest nation, and we're talking thousands and thousands of people that I'm seeing.
We are experiencing the breaking down of religious structures.
And because of these fracturing of the structures, we are experiencing massive global fear.
The beginning of the pandemonium.
Even Father Malachi Martin, a Catholic priest, talked of days of darkness to come.
So a very different religion, a very different discipline, but the same message, darkness to come.
That will be going on over the next four revelations of the sun, the four changes of seasons, in other words, four years.
We're going to experience here in America a lot of crop failures, major crop failures.
We're talking about where there were dry desert land, you're going to see unbelievable floods.
Where you plant your crops, you're going to see all of a sudden, three weeks later, they start to bloom.
And you know that they're not ready to bloom and they're not ready to take it, so you're going to see crop failures.
Alright, here we go again.
In a conversation I had, Bob Crane is a sponsor.
He's been with me for years and a very good friend.
Not only did he tell me the redwoods are beginning to drop their leaves, but he said, and I can't remember the crop, he said the crop that I have here is beginning to come in now like two months ahead of time or something.
And it shouldn't be.
It's ridiculous.
He said there are things going on in Northern California right now that just absolutely don't make sense.
I don't think it's just restricted to Northern California.
I've heard the same stories up in Minnesota.
But we're going to see this because the weather doesn't know what it's doing anymore.
I don't want to get into the reasons or I'll lose the linear flow of where we're going,
but we're going to experience this in the next three to four years, which is all going
to increase the tension, which is going to increase the hysteria, which is going to increase
the fear level unless we move beyond that.
And then we have a situation where we're moving into the natural course of events.
Yes, we are going to see sometime in 1998, 1998 is supposed to be the kickoff for the
earth changes.
It's going to be the kickoff for the vibrational changes.
These are going to continue to intensify until basically around the year 2003, which is when
the major shifts will happen.
When these major shifts happen, it is very feasible at any point after that, what we're looking at is possibly between 2003 and 2007, we will go into the complete shifting of the pulse and a complete paradigm shift of energy, which will result in our experiencing three and a half days of darkness.
The three and a half days of darkness?
We'll have to do for the fact that the consciousness that holds this plane together, which is why we know a tree is a tree and water is water and a red light is a red light, this consciousness is collapsing.
It's imploding.
When it implodes, we will be in a space where all we will have is consciousness, which will also cause other things to occur, because that which we hold things together with in our reality will dissipate.
So that means that anything artificial will not exist.
It will start to disappear.
It will liquefy.
It will be like if you've ever known anybody or if you yourself have ever been in an earthquake,
really strange things happen to physical structure.
Glass becomes fluid and sort of bounces without sound and then shatters into a thousand crystals.
Strange beams and buildings just become fluid and elastic and sort of move and sway.
The ground itself becomes fluid.
Yeah, it just moves.
It just moves almost like an artist's brush.
They call it liquefication.
Now, when this happens, you're going to see things like television sets, plastic.
These are all man-made things.
They're going to disappear.
They will melt.
They will liquefy.
The reason why the ancient things that are left that we can tell what's going to happen
if we go to the pyramids, if we go to the ancient structures, if we study the ancient
architecture, these people were so incredibly advanced with what they built.
Thank you.
Why did they build everything out of natural substance?
Because it's the one thing that could withstand these type of changes.
They do talk about the cycles and that this is nothing new.
This has happened before.
You know, it's a funny thing, you should mention all this, because the Japanese, of course, had a really horrible earthquake.
It was, I don't know, a couple of years ago.
And they had said, they had their heads held high and their noses in the air, and they had said, these buildings we have built will withstand anything.
America's buildings will collapse, but our buildings We have built with a special new technology and they will stand, nothing will fall in the most severe of earthquakes.
Well, they had a seven point something or another.
And most all those proud buildings came tumbling down, unlike so many dominoes.
And they're still scratching their heads about it.
Well, if it hits Earth, get into a teepee.
It'll work.
If it's natural, it will last.
If it's part of the consciousness of what we are, what the Earth is, it will last.
We're talking about major shifts that are going to happen in the next year.
There's going to be a very, very bad winter here.
Worse than what this one was.
I believe that.
It's coming.
Power failures are going to happen everywhere.
When the electromagnetic fields fluctuate, it affects the electrical power systems and grids that we have.
We're going to see a lot of power failures, so maybe people better get that bidget radio.
My concern is, are they going to be able to get us on the radio?
I don't know, but I'm going to ride the story out and see what happens.
In answer to your question, honestly, I really don't know.
All right, Robert, hold tight.
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Do you believe in angels and miracles?
You will, after reading The Messengers, an incredible story that the angels once told.
When a successful down-to-earth businessman struggled with the realization of his true purpose on earth, angels intervened.
His reluctance overcome, he felt compelled to tell this inspiring story.
A story that began 2,000 years ago when he lived as the Apostle Paul and walked alongside Jesus.
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Well, here's a fact that I wish to deal with.
of spirituality in the same way again. Whatever you believe, you'll want to read The Messengers,
a true story of angelic presence and the return to the age of miracles. The Messengers, from
pocketbooks wherever books are sold, a story that will change your life. Well, here is
a fact that I wish to deal with. It says Art Bell. We're discussing, Robert Ghostwolf is
my guest, and we're discussing the state of the environment and things related, which
is pretty awful, I admit.
And so I want to, actually I want to deal with this.
It says, Art Bell, what if it was discovered that radio waves, you know, I always wonder why people eliminate their fax number and they sign it without a name and stuff, but I guess anyway I'll read it.
Usually I don't read these, but Art Bell, what if it was discovered that radio waves and satellite emissions were causing deformities in animals and climatic changes?
Would you immediately go off the air and shut down the network?
I know you won't read this, because as a typical media hypocrite, it's easier to blame so-called environmental damage on something else that someone else does.
Signed, Screw the planet in California.
No name, just screw the planet in California.
I'd be happy to answer your question.
I'd be off the air in a second.
Do you honestly believe that I come on here for five hours a night and discuss things that I don't really believe?
Do you honestly believe that I don't come on here With conviction, particularly with respect to environmental concerns that you know damn well I have.
I wrote a whole book about it.
If I were to discover that what I was doing was contributing or even a primary cause of what's going on with the earth right now, I'd be out of here so quick.
I'd go throw the switch so quick.
No, that doesn't guarantee that all broadcasting would cease.
But I can tell you I would have no part of it.
Now, I know you're not going to believe me because you think me to be a hypocrite.
That's just fine, but I'm giving you a straight answer whether you like it or not, and I suspect you don't.
Yeah, I'd be out of here really quick.
So if your question, which of course it is, is whether I have the strength of my own convictions should I make some sort of discovery like this, the answer is I do.
That's it.
Here's Robert Ghostwolf once again.
Robert, we were talking about Hopi prophecy.
Yes.
What we're going to experience also immediately, which you already are seeing the manifestations of, is when it's spoken in the prophecies that new life forms As well as old life forms will reappear and new life forms will reappear.
It's happening on a global level to such magnitude that science really doesn't know how to deal with it.
We have diseases that are breaking out that they don't even know what their origin is.
We are dealing with situations where the viruses are almost mechanical in nature.
It's almost like they weren't living Organic organisms.
It's almost like they take on their own consciousness.
It's like they can calculate what's going to happen before it happens and what kind of antibiotic we're going to come up with before we come up with the antibiotic.
So you come up with an antibiotic and it only lasts a few weeks.
We're seeing many, many more instances of this.
We are dealing with right now in many of the urban areas the beginnings of new strains of tuberculosis.
That they do not have any antibodies for.
They don't know what to do with it.
We're dealing with a lot of disease.
We are going to experience this.
The only thing that we can do is to get back to using the natural foods.
I go extensively into this in Last Cry.
If we go back to the Hopi say, if we go back to the sacred grains.
wheat, rice, millet and corn.
If we go back to this, it will give our bodies what we need to move into this new frequency.
We are eating less and less of these natural things that we have lived on basically as
a global society for eons now, for centuries.
We are going to have much more open visibility by the extraterrestrials.
Much more open visibility.
That's already begun.
Yes, it has.
It's begun in a very kind way.
It's begun in a way where the appearance of them, the existence of them is no longer deniable by so many people.
I mean by so many people.
I don't care what the statistics say.
Most everybody who I meet doesn't have a doubt that there's something.
Most people who I see have heard about the lights in Phoenix.
They've heard about what's happening in Mexico City and what's happening in Bolivia.
In fact, Mexico City, so many sightings, they're taken as the norm.
Mexico City, where planes have collided with craft.
Correct.
Damaged them.
I mean it's unbelievable, just unbelievable.
It's happening with increased frequency.
There is a lot going on right now that, again we could go into a whole section, we could go into three hours on it if we wanted to, but there's a lot of really strange things happening in the Southwest, especially in the Four Corners area.
We're talking about tremendous military caravans, we're talking about Tandem trucks of liquid nitrogen moving in the middle of the night off into some desolate area in the back of a reservation.
For some reason, a lot of these things seem to happen in the reservation areas.
Huge earth-moving equipment going down the road.
I mean, with 12-foot tires and 14-foot tires moving along the highways.
There are things going on to such a level of intensity that People are really getting upset on an everyday level.
What I have been told about this is that you can expect within the next year for the government to move from Washington, D.C.
Within the next year?
Within the next year.
You will see the major CIA, the intelligence organizations moving to the Phoenix area.
And you'll see very feasibly.
Phoenix?
Phoenix?
What is it about Phoenix?
It's been an age-old place of communication between us and the Star People for how long now?
And there are many, many underground installations, so many underground installations that it would be impossible to track them.
We're dealing with hundreds and hundreds of miles, if not thousands of miles, of underground tunnels throughout New Mexico that just go on and on, that the government's been working on for years.
We're dealing with Area 51.
Area 51 didn't just happen a few years ago.
It was known as a site for strange occurrences with UFOs before we came in and started to put our technology in there.
It has been a center for UFOs.
The woman was there last week and I believe the woman, I believe her credibility, and
she went to see her father who called her up on the phone and said, I have to see you
because I have some information I have to give you.
He lives right near Area 51.
She went down to see him and she drove down the road and when she was driving down the
road the road was blocked off.
There were black vehicles and military vehicles all over the place.
She was approached by someone from the sheriff's department who said, you cannot go down the
road.
The area is blocked off and she was like, excuse me, this is our ranch, I'm going to
go see my father.
He said, no you're not.
Eventually through persuasion she managed to somehow avoid their detection and move
down the road whether she walked, and I'm assuming that she walked.
She said that when she got to her father's ranch, her father was sitting there and he had no recollection whatsoever of having called her and said this, and when she looked out in the field as she was going there, she saw UFOs and Air Force planes.
Just sitting there and she was completely taken back by this because they were just sitting there in the open.
These are the kinds of stories that I get all the time and they're not from lunatics.
They're from people going, I don't know what to do.
I'm scared.
I'm not going to say anything about this.
When I was down in Roswell, there were three men in black there.
One of the people who was with me, Art, walked up and was choking with them because he thought they were probably part of the show.
They turned around and basically looked and did the, you know, you saw nothing, citizen.
He came back and he was choking with them.
He said, why don't we get some of them to turn around and talk to some of the speakers?
That would be a good joke, wouldn't it?
I was there with several people who came from military backgrounds and we looked at them and said, no, we're aware that they're here.
They're there.
These things are real.
When somebody writes you a letter like this on your show, it's like, if your show wasn't on the air, Art, how would this stuff get out without emotion, without color?
Otherwise, all we have left is the tabloids.
At least the information is getting out.
It's up to their discernment to look.
I think that anybody today can read and look and find.
It's hard, but we do have the Internet.
We have a lot of incredible speakers out there bringing information which is unbelievable.
I've seen some unbelievable footage of things that the presence of alien life forms on this planet is undeniable, never mind what I have seen in my own life.
I can say I've seen it, but I may be a lunatic.
Maybe your coffee was bad on the plane when you saw that thing outside the window.
But when you start getting hundreds and thousands of these stories coming in from very credible people, I'm talking about ranchers and farmers and people who are veterinarians and doctors, just regular people working.
They don't even listen to your show or read my books.
So it's not like, what's happening is that these people are reading all this hysteria tabloid type information.
And, you know, Ghost Wolves is out there giving away Indian secrets without the right to give Indian secrets away.
You get accused of that, don't you?
Oh, a lot.
And I can only go by what my grandmother told me before she passed over, which is that, grandson, if there's one thing that you have to learn, it's that in your time, in your life, the secrets have to end.
As long as people have secrets, they're going to have separatism.
And they're going to say, this is my side and we've got this secret information.
She says there's too much going on now.
They have to know about these ships.
They have to know about what's happening to the water.
They have to know about how they're manipulating the food and that people are getting sick because they're not eating anything.
They're eating bulk, but they're not eating any food.
She says people have to know about this.
Well, Indian secrets are not much good if we stand on the brink and they remain secrets.
I mean, do you come back to the elders with that?
I do.
And I don't publicly ever speak about sacred ceremonial rites or the way things are done.
I believe that that is their sovereign domain.
But the information is the information.
It is a global situation.
I'm going down to Peru in February because elders from all over the world wanted information to get out because they wanted everybody to know.
The same thing is happening in Hawaii.
It wasn't that I suddenly decided, hey, this is a good day to go out and I want to go to Hawaii and let's go do a coast dance.
It was that they came and said, we have to do something.
The information has to get out.
The people aren't seeing things.
They're not hearing things anymore.
They're not listening to what the earth is trying to tell them.
They think it's so much boo-hoo when we tell them that right now while we're sitting here We're talking about the migration of birds, right?
Well, we're not talking about because it's so hard to get everything in, but there's a migration going on of fish right here in the Pacific Ocean.
They can't get the fish that they normally get because of what's happening with the temperatures in the water because of all the volcanoes that are going off in the Pacific Rim.
I know.
There's so much right now that people are beginning to get boggled.
Stan Dale, several months ago, said, Art, I look at naval maps and I see these gigantic, unbelievable, blooms of temperature in the Pacific Ocean.
And people went, hmm, that's interesting.
And a couple of months, three months went by, and all of a sudden, all of a sudden the US Weather Service said they are seeing absolutely the largest El Nino beginning to build.
They have never seen anything to rival it.
And all this becomes confirmed.
The ocean temperatures are in fact rising.
the plankton in fact are are becoming less the whole chain is becoming
affected and and isn't it also interesting how
we hear just a few months ago the government was coming out with all of
these programs and and all these statements that this whole thing about global warming was a farce it
wasn't happening there was no evidence of global warming
and just a few weeks ago over here in the spokane paper
there was this whole argument and and and article about the government warning us about we're gonna have to
get ready for some changes because of global warming.
Thank you.
So we're seeing this seesaw of attitudes, this total seesaw of attitudes.
One of the remarks that I really liked when you had Richard Hogan on the other night was, we spent $50 billion on a project.
And we have a 12 foot extension cord?
What is wrong with the project here?
We are seeing increasing evidence of everything that has been in the prophecies as coming to be, coming to pass or have already passed.
And now the basic thing comes to what are the Hopi saying?
What are the Sioux saying?
What are the Haudenosaunee saying?
What are the Maori saying?
What are the Inca saying?
We're at the end of the dream, and we've got to realize that we are physical beings, and that yes, we need minerals, we need to get healthy.
We're no longer healthy.
And if we don't get ourselves into a basic, grounded level, we are going to perish because of diseases, simply because we don't have an immune system to fight anything.
And so the ghost dance comes.
The ghost dance comes, and we hope that we can raise the spirits of everyone.
And right now it seems to be working throughout the world and hopefully it'll become a global vision.
All right.
Hold tight.
We'll be right back to you and we're going to go to the phones.
Everybody wants to talk to you.
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Anybody want to dance?
I think we're about to dance.
My guest is Robert Ghostwolf, and we are about to go to the phones, and we will talk more of Hopi prophecy, because there is more.
Three days of darkness in the next four years are on the way.
You know, we've heard that somewhere else, haven't we?
Robert has a manuscript which is about to be a book and either way it's going to be important, but it is the most beautiful manuscript I have ever seen in my whole life.
For those of you with access to the web, if you'll go to the studio cam, I'm holding up a copy of the manuscript and I'm going to leave that photograph up there for about the next half hour or so.
So if you want to see what the Last Crime manuscript looks like, it's up there on the webcam right now.
I just sort of held it up.
It's not a really good picture of it, but it's good enough.
You'll get the idea.
This is astoundingly beautiful inside.
All of it hand-done.
And it's what's coming out prior to the book.
And he's only got 50 of them left.
I suspect those are going quickly.
Robert, if they want to get a manuscript, what is the number again, please?
509-465-1606.
509-465-1606.
If that line is busy, we do have a voicemail.
509-623-2496.
That's 509-623-2496.
If that line is busy, we do have a voicemail, 509-623-2496.
If they don't have web access, I can give you a post office box, which is PO Box 10196.
i'd better stop you before you finish this Okay.
You really only have 50 left?
We really only have 50 left?
Well, my advice to you is if you're talking about ordering manuscripts, there's no point in giving out an address.
They're probably gone already.
Yeah, that's my point.
We can certainly give out your address so they can contact you for any other reason But I'm saying all the manuscripts are going to be gone before the show's over.
Well, let's just have a little patience and dial at 509-465-1606.
We don't have a lot of people there.
So, if they want to communicate with you otherwise, go ahead and give your address.
It's PO Box 10196.
That's 10196.
Spokane, Washington.
That's 10196 Spokane, Washington 99209.
99209.
That's 99209.
99209.
Either address it to me or to Wolf Lodge.
Wolf Lodge.
All right.
All right.
Here comes some phone calls.
Are you ready?
Sure.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghost Wolf.
Where are you, please?
Is this the Art Battle Show?
Yes, it is.
Okay.
My name is... Well... Just give us your first name.
Okay.
My name is Maria, and I live in Texas.
Okay.
Okay, I need to tell Mr. Wolf something that happened to me Saturday, and I've been trying to figure it out for a while, and I still can't figure it out.
Maybe he can help.
Well, go ahead.
Mr. Wolf?
Yes?
Saturday night, about somewhere around 1.30 in the morning, I had the urge to go outside.
And when I did, After a little bit I noticed there was a huge shadow in the shape of a bird flying up towards the moon.
Okay?
And then it sort of melded with the moon and became... It changed into all the colors of the fire.
Okay?
And the moon itself changed into the shape of the bird.
And then this great big I don't know, to me it looked like a tear or a rip.
Just rushed across it.
And when it came out on the other side, the moon changed back.
Sounds like you saw a vision of the Phoenix.
I've been trying to figure this out for a while now and it's been bothering me.
Well, we're told at this time that the Phoenix would be awakening.
And that the phoenix would start to flap its wings, and when it started to flap its wings, we would feel the thunder in the earth.
And that the fire was the consumption of human desires that had gone awry.
And to see something like that with the moon, which is totally tied into the feminine energy, would be a pretty powerful sign.
Yes.
A pretty powerful sign.
So, you know, I would say that you could consider yourself quite fortunate that Spirit communicated with you in that way.
Alright, first time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf, hello.
Yes, hello, my name is Renee, and I'm calling from Seattle.
Okay, you're going to have to speak up good and loud, hon, we can barely hear you.
I'm calling from Seattle.
Right.
And, um, I've lived here since 1959, and I've watched the ecology in this area really, really change in that length of time.
Like, right now you go out and you look, this is July, you look at the mountains out here, there's no snow, and it used to be the snow would be like at least a third of the way down this time of year.
And it's gone because they've been cutting all the trees down and there's nothing to hold the snow there.
The salmon in Puget Sound, they started using gill net boats out there like so in the 60s or 70s.
And immediately the fish, you know, went down.
But they still allowed gill net boats out in the Sound.
Still, even now.
Well, it's money.
It's people's livelihoods.
And, you know, it's the battle That we're going to have and I don't know, you know, somebody sent me a fax and I answered honestly for myself.
They suddenly discovered that radio was doing this.
I'd be out of here.
No problem.
But it's livelihoods.
You're talking about people who fish and the entire chain, people who can fish, people who sell fish in the market, the markets themselves, all the employees.
You're talking about an economic kind of life.
versus what we're doing to keep up this lifestyle.
Is that about right, Robert?
I say that's about right.
I think one of the things that, one of the messages that we're speaking of with the people as we put together this Ghost Towns is that, you know, we've got to stop looking at each other as the enemy.
We've got to stop creating enemies.
All it's doing is stopping us.
When in fact people are not the enemies to people, Well, I have not a big problem with the fact that there are corporations.
There is no longer the white guy doing something to the blue guy or the blue guy doing something
to the red guy.
It's this corporate world that is totally unfeeling that seems to have no conscience
and seems to just use up the resources and leave its trash behind without any regard
for what's to follow.
Well I have not a big problem with the fact that there are corporations.
Corporations are not intrinsically evil and they have built a good life for us, but somewhere
there has got to be a balance and we are not in balance right now.
No, we're not, and I think that, you know, 500 years ago we had kings, 500 years before that we had emperors, 500 years before that we had pharaohs, and now we have bankers.
We have bankers, that's a good answer.
First time caller line, no, wildcard line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hi, Leona from Whittier.
And I called before Art when you had on, I think it was Linda Howell, about the cisteria bacteria.
Oh yes, of course.
And I told you about the lawsuit that our conservation organization had against the federal government.
Yes, I recall.
Well, there's a couple of things here I want to share, and one is, in regards to that lawsuit, there's a scientific report that was turned in to the government just a few days ago, on July 26th, that was signed by over 170 scientists throughout the United States and the world, Zurich, Australia, everywhere, commenting that if the federal government goes ahead with these changes to the endangered species act that it would cause
mass species extinction.
And it is on a website out of the University of Davis.
I can give you that.
And the media has not been covering this at all.
Okay, I can't allow you to give that web address on the air only because I've had a bad experience.
You know, occasionally people will slip them in.
But if you'll get it to me by fax or some other way, we'll get a link on our website up to it.
How's that?
And I'll do the same online?
And I don't have your fax number.
It's area code 702-727-8499.
The other thing that I wanted to share with you both is the name of our organization is
Spirit of the Sage Council and it was co-founded by the Shoshone-Gabrielino Nation that's here
in Southern California.
And two years ago, it will be two years this winter, there was a winter solstice cave that was destroyed in Orange County, and the isthmus aligned with Catalina Island.
The Shoshone-Gabrielino name for the Catalina Island is Paimou.
Very similar to Lou.
And when the cave was excavated, before it was rafted and blown up, there was quartz crystal found, obsidian blades, abalone, and ochre.
And even though Secretary Bader and others were notified of this and that the Advisory
Council on Historic Preservation wrote letters to try to stop the destruction that was still
destroyed, it's interesting that there is all of this weather change now happening.
Interesting?
It's not interesting.
It's more than a coincidence.
Also, the spiritual leader of the Shoshone Gabrielino passed away in February, and the
hereditary chief, Yana Verrocha, is ill.
And this was definitely associated with the destruction of some of these sacred sites
that continue to happen.
Alright, get us that site and we'll put up a link for you.
Alright, here's a fax.
Sounds like Mother Earth has some pretty strong medicine going on.
The parasite harming the Earth, us, must be stopped so out comes this real strong antibiotic.
The cell from Helen Moore kills or really thins out what we, the parasites, feed on directly or indirectly, thus we, the true parasites, are forced to thin out one way or the other.
We change our ways or our ways are changed for us.
Does that sound about right?
Sounds like what the Hopis say.
The Hopis say that that which we do not take care of ourselves, the earth will take care of quickly.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hello.
Hello.
Oh, I didn't push the button.
I gotta push the button first.
There you are.
West of the Rockies, now you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Yes, sir.
I am calling from just north of you.
I'm calling from Reno, Nevada.
I'd like to remain anonymous.
I have the answers for what you seek.
If you notice on the Prophecy Rock, The sign on the Prophecy Rock, you have two signs.
It's a plus sign and a zero sign.
The Native Americans knew that sign and it's in their culture in every major tribe from one coast to the other.
What Prophecy Rock are you referring to?
I'm sorry, I don't know.
Mr. Ghost Wolf knows, the one you're speaking of about the... The prophecies?
Yes.
I saw this just the other day.
It shows a plus sign and a zero sign.
Now let's drop back 2,000 years.
Okay?
This time of Jesus.
What he was teaching was not a crucifix.
He was teaching positive energy.
That's what's going to unite this right now.
It is... It's hard for me to talk because it's taken three years to bring this out.
Well, we don't have three years.
No, no, no.
Listen.
Just listen.
Please.
I'm listening, but you're going to have to get it out.
Okay.
What it is, is at this time, everything we know of is in a matter state.
And that breaks down to atoms.
And what is an atom made up of?
A positive, a zero, and a negative charge.
The first two signs on the prophecy rock are a plus and a zero.
In every cave that is across the United States, and I know a little bit about archaeology, There are signs represented with a circle and a plus sign way before Christians or white men came onto this planet.
And the same with Australia.
And you'll find the plus sign represented by cultures all over the world.
Okay.
Jesus was teaching the plus sign.
The Native Americans knew him without a Bible as White Cloud.
And the prophecy is Yes, I did.
The magnetic field will be altered because of the gravity.
The gravity is, Mr. Bell, I've heard you talk about this before, is actually this Earth
is a generator.
No, we're talking about, we've talked certainly about polar shifts, Pauler, thank you.
And I think you made some reference to that a little bit earlier tonight, didn't you,
Robert?
Yeah, yes I did.
And the cross is ancient, it's throughout all of our cultures and it's definitely throughout
all the indigenous cultures here in North America.
It goes back all the way into Mesoamerica with the Inca and with the Maya.
And it does have to do with the energy and it does have to do with the four directions.
What goes east and west would be considered your earth walk or the electromagnetic plane.
And then what goes north and south would be considered the spirit walk, or what happens in the scalar plane, what happens in the other energy.
Everything about the balance is sort of like looking at a sight.
If you were zeroing in with a sight and you would have those crosshairs, the balance is when they are in perfect balance and the portal through, as the Hopis say, the portal through is through the center where things are neutral.
And I know that we've often heard about walk the middle road, and walk the middle road doesn't necessarily mean walk without passion.
It means walk without charging the situation and see things for what they are.
So in other words, what he was saying sounded crazy in the beginning, but it really isn't, is it?
No, it's really not.
In all the stories of the Prophet who was here, he was known wearing a white robe with little with the four direction symbol around the hem.
These four direction symbols are also in his hands.
One of the things that we will see in many of the caves and the archaeological sites
is the picture of the hand with a cross in it.
So this does go back, but I think that in our present culture we tend to move everything
with the cross toward the crucifixion and not really hear the message.
Well you have to first listen before you hear.
East of the Rockies, you're on air with Robert Gilstwolf.
Hi.
Hi, um... Where are you?
I'm in Nebraska.
Nebraska, okay.
Get into your phone and yell at us, otherwise... Oh, hi.
Okay, go ahead.
What is your first name?
My name is Jolene.
Uh-huh.
I'm Mr. Ghostwolf.
I was wondering, you talk about antibiotics.
Are they effective anymore?
A lot of them are, right?
Yeah, and you've heard of MRSA and Vectomycin resistance?
I've heard of it.
That's where the antibiotics like penicillin aren't effective anymore because people have abused them?
Yes.
Okay, so how does your goal stand for the economy and the people?
I think that we've forgotten a very simple message in our evolutionary process, and that's that the strongest thing that we've ever had has been the human spirit. People can cure cancer, they can
cure terminal diseases of God knows how many different manifestations
through the human spirit, through the raising of the human spirit. It doesn't matter how you recognize
that human spirit as long as you learn how to come into contact with
it.
I think that in this day and age everything that we are doing, whether you go to a Ghost
Wolf workshop or whether you go to a General McElzadek workshop or whether you go to any
one of the workshops where teachers are trying to get things out.
A lot of the Native American teachers are trying to get things out beyond their spirituality to explain the science of what they're talking about, and the power of the human mind and the human spirit.
The human mind and the human spirit, what it created, it can discreate.
So it can create something new and you can create the energy and the vibration of perfect health.
You can do this.
If you don't want to listen to Robert Goswold, you can read a book by Deepak Chopra.
You'll talk about the same thing.
Disease comes from an attitude or a lack of attitude.
I know we've abused it over, our attitudes we've abused over the centuries and got really negative.
You know, we're called the children of the sun, and the dream has been perpetuated now.
There are many prophecies that it would seem were supposed to happen ten years ago, but they did not happen, and a lot of people became despondent.
But what people are starting to experience now is that these prophecies are in fact coming to be.
They're coming to pass.
So we've been given a window.
We've been given a window to get our act together, so to speak.
I think, I think, we're going to have to break away here, because we're close to the top of the hour, but I think we're in them now.
These are no longer prophecies.
No, they're news reports.
Yeah, that's exactly right, they're news reports.
Stay where you are, Robert, we'll be right back.
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It's so nice.
I don't have to give out numbers anymore.
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It's called The Quickening by Art Bell.
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Good morning, everybody.
My guest is Native American Robert Ghostwolf.
And I'll tell you what, we'll get back to him and your phone calls in a moment.
All right, once again, my guest, Robert Ghostwolf.
Robert, react to this.
Believe it or not, your Native American guests leaves strongly parallel the first laws of theoretical physics.
In other words, Reality is in the mind of the observer.
What he is saying tends to unite physical law, philosophy, religious belief, which many physicists consider impossible.
Your guest is incredibly interesting.
Is that what it does, Robert?
Yeah, it sounds like Albert Einstein.
Everything is relativity.
You know, we've been talking about the water Purifiers and reverse osmosis in the water and releasing the minerals.
I think an interesting point that people, which is part of the prophecies, is that we live in a crystal world.
This is literally a crystal planet.
It creates crystals.
If we've had visits from extraterrestrials, it's because they needed crystals and so forth to turn around and operate some of their flying machines.
The water, we used to be able to program water, you know, just like we program crystals for computers and program crystals for watches and satellites.
A lot of the satellites run off crystal programming.
Computers run off crystal programming.
People don't understand that.
That's absolutely right.
There is a crystal and it determines a frequency and without it nothing runs.
Nothing runs?
And we are basically the most incredible biological computers in the universe.
One of the things that I know that some of my experiences with the ETs was they didn't understand how we weren't aware of what we could do with our minds and how thought literally programs everything in our planet.
So in a further conclusion to what the lady was just asking us from Nebraska.
How can we change things is by reprogramming our vision.
We have forgotten that we are the world and what we are inside, individually, as people, is what changes things.
If you change your attitude, you change everything.
If you wake up on a bad hair day, I don't care what you're wearing, you're not going to look good.
But if you change your attitude and your friend calls up and you laugh, suddenly You feel different about everything and your physical appearance changes.
It's that simple.
It doesn't have to be high-level science to understand this.
My name is Laughing Wolf.
I'm calling from Cincinnati.
The prophecies and the radical changes that you're speaking about can all really be very frightening.
On a more positive note, I'd like to ask what the purpose of all these changes will be?
We're being given a chance right now to reprogram our future.
We're basically going through life review.
We're going through life review now.
It's a tremendous gift.
Rather than having to wait until we pass over into another world, we're going through a life review right now while we're living the experience so that we can change the way we react to things, change the way we look at things, change things in our lives that we feel no longer apply or are no longer needed.
The purposes of what's happening now as we're experiencing chaos, I think it should also be taken into consideration that all creation happens from chaos.
If we go into any level of science, creation happens through chaos.
Physics will explain that, and our spirituality has always explained that.
When the universe was born, it was born out of chaos, and the chaos is what creates something new.
What has happened to us now is that basically we have imploded.
We have no new ideas.
We have no future dreams.
So therefore we can accept what is ever being handed to us by various individuals or we can create our own.
We can create our own right now starting with self.
And the chaos is happening so that there's an opening for something new to happen.
And it's happening on so many levels, so many levels.
We had something that happened with the sun a few months ago where there was this giant sun blob that was coming toward the earth and everyone was afraid everybody's computer was going to crash.
Everybody called everybody up and said, Turn your computers off!
It's going to hit tomorrow at 3 o'clock!
And the Native American elders who I was with said, Well, what are they all upset about?
Because what it's doing is it's creating the essence of new matter for the new consciousness to grab hold of.
You know what really happened?
We did have, as you mentioned, a great big burst of energy come toward us.
And the scientists were very concerned about what would happen, and actually, it just grazed us.
It just barely grazed us.
But those in radio communications certainly noticed it.
Oh, remember?
Everybody was in a panic.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, but they miscalculated a little bit, and it just missed us that time.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hey, how you doing?
Alright.
Okay, I've got a question for him.
It seems like you're posing a lot of questions, and I think the answer here is, I wish that everybody had your clear vision on that.
I think that's the answer to what's happening.
Maybe I just said it in 10,000 ways.
Okay, well I want to clarify that for the audience and everything.
Is that what you're saying basically?
I wish that everybody had your clear vision on that.
Well, thank you.
I'm going to hang up and let you go ahead.
Thank you.
You can go into that a little bit more in some way.
All right.
it's a it's a clear simple way to say it.
Spiritual love.
If there was more of that and less of what just happened in Jerusalem, we'd be on a different track, wouldn't we?
Absolutely.
You know, we're focusing on the difference rather than the commonality, aren't we?
And, you know, spiritual love.
Well, what is spiritual love?
And we spend our whole lives going down these many pathways.
And God knows how many movies and books they wrote about it.
In reality, you can find the essence of spiritual love in a relationship.
I'm sure that when you look into Ramona's eyes, you know the secret.
Yes, I do.
But the words may not be there because the true knowledge is beyond words.
The true knowledge is understood emotionally.
So when your eyes touch, you know.
It's like a simple way to do it.
Look into the divine being within each one of us at least once a day.
Look at each other and see that being.
Don't see all the judgments and the criticisms and the little mistakes and the human flaws.
That's what makes life funny.
Yeah, you're right about one thing and that is when I look at Ramona, we both know when we look at each other, we both know and it passes between us and not a word has to be said.
But this has to occur at a larger level, and I don't know how to get that going.
Do you?
That's what we're doing tonight.
Each little bit starts.
Every time I go out and do something, every time we do something like this, every time Danon does something, every time Laura Lee, my wife and I, we go out and we work with people, it's what we try to share with people.
They usually walk away feeling really good for three days, and then they forget, and then they get caught up in the trauma.
And they forget to look.
It's like, you know, a lot of the answers are simple.
A lot of the answers are simple.
But a very complex life masks them.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We are caught behind many, many masks.
I think one of the problems that I know Grandfather Martin up in Hope Village talks to me about with people, he says, you know, the problem with the people in the outside world, meaning outside of Hopeland, is that everybody gets caught in their different People that they think that they are.
And so they never pay enough attention to who they are.
And so they think that they're lost.
Does that make sense?
Yep.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hi, Robert.
This is Kevin.
I'm standing out here in the yard in western Pennsylvania looking up at the Pleiades.
And it's a great, it's a beautiful night.
But what I wanted to say was, along the lines of the Hopi prophecy, There's a Hopi prophecy concerning an individual who's going to return at a certain time, unknown, with a missing piece of the FireClan tablet.
And you may know something about that.
I've been studying with him since 1987, and we have tried four times to reach the Hopi traditionals, and he fulfills prophecies for a host of other Native American tribes, all of them actually.
He passed away last August.
And we're having a gathering in Missoula.
The pronunciation to the Hopi of that name is Massawa, Montana.
And I know that these words are significant to you, Robert, and what I'd like to do is try to get something set up with you and the Hopi elders so that we can get the people who have been studying with him to get together with you, because along with this piece of the cornerstone of the FireClan tablet, he also brings Tremendously encompassing message and it's critical that people begin to hear this message and we've tried four times to get in touch with the elders and the traditionals and we weren't able to before he passed on but he left us with instructions.
Robert, what is the fire clan tablet, do you know?
Every race when the four brothers came up from the inner earth Each race, the black race, the red race, the yellow race, the white race, each race was given the tablets of the original teachings.
As it is taught, the white race has their tablets in Switzerland.
The black race has theirs in Kilimanjaro, where King Solomon's mines were.
I forget what country that might be right now.
The Yellow Race has theirs in Tibet.
The Red Race has theirs in Hopi Land.
And yes, there's a piece missing and I don't know that it necessarily means that a one specific entity would come, but that maybe that that's a consciousness that would come that would bring the missing piece.
The legend has it that the light will come from the north.
The light will come from the north.
Right, that's Missoula.
And well and that also means The word for that is one of the words that's used for the prophet, that's one of the words used for the healer.
Yeah, the pahana.
Well, pahana has now become colloquialism.
But pahana, as it was originally spoken, meant the long lost white brother.
That is actually, there is actually a person who fulfills that prophecy and has in his possession The cornerstone of the FireClan tablet is a young child.
Perhaps the best direction for you to go with that, if I can be of any help, is to contact me at my website so we can communicate.
We will do that.
And perhaps we can arrange this meeting that you're speaking of.
It might take time because those things happen in Indian time.
The thing that's really big about it right now, that's critical at this point, is that We've reached a point of no return now and all these things with the Middle East and all the turmoils and all the earth changes we're heading into is actually the purification of everything that we see going wrong.
Yes, but don't ever lose sight that how that happens depends upon how we walk.
Right, the spiritual things that the guy before me was saying.
That's it.
That's the key.
The law of the universe, the supreme law of the universe is love.
And we're moving towards it, but physically we have a tremendous landslide to go through, literally.
Yeah, I personally think, and I don't mean to seem negative, but I just believe this.
It's a personal belief that we have, toward the change that is going to occur, and I don't prophesize what that will be, I don't know, But we are now past the point of no return.
I believe that.
That there is going to be a change.
Period.
We're in the change.
We're in the throes of it.
And it will get more intense, especially, like he says, up until 2003.
And the pyramid fits into it integrally, as well as every major religion and a lot of minor, less known ones throughout the planet.
All the people who brought all the religions are all from the same family tree.
Yes, and if we go back to that prophecy, it's also spoken in that prophecy that he will speak of a way which has not been heard before.
Right, it's the book of truth.
He will speak of a way which is always... Right, the Hopi calls it the book of truth.
It is the book of truth.
It is the original teachings.
Yeah, and we are the Bahá'í, the followers of the white brother, of the Bahá'í, in that interpretation of the prophecy.
And I can show that to you if we can get the opportunity.
Well, we can do that, and I think that one of the major things that we have to overcome with that, which is what I've literally dedicated my life to, is to build the bridges between people, between races, between the old generation and the new generation.
There's a generation that's just prior to your generation that doesn't have a clue as to what you're speaking about.
I know.
You're still locked in another paradigm.
And the bridges have to be put together.
We have to bridge the old and the young.
We have to bridge the races.
We have to bridge the different religions.
This is what's occurring right now.
As you're saying, we're in the throes of the change.
We're in the throes of the quickening, and this is the quickening.
And it's only going to intensify until it starts to happen so fast that we just become over-inundated.
And when we become over-inundated, what will happen is that we will stop listening to our own ego.
And we will listen to our own intuitiveness.
All right, caller, we're going to have to go, but contact him privately via the web.
We will.
All right?
Thank you.
Thank you very much, and have a good morning.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Hi.
I'm not Morning Sky.
Oh!
I'm sorry about that.
I always do that.
I always do it.
Robert Ghostwolf.
Morning Sky Ghostwolf.
Morning Sky Ghostwolf.
Anyway, you're on the air.
Are you there?
Yes.
All right, all right.
How many people do we have on this line?
We have one.
All right.
Hello.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Robert Ghost Wolf is listening.
All right.
This is Steve from Cleveland, Mississippi.
Yes, sir.
I was listening earlier to the show where Robert was talking about the power of drums and how they are, you know, the oldest instrument.
Yep.
And the power they have to move people.
And that really touched me real deeply, me being a drummer myself.
I'm kind of nervous here, trying to get my thoughts collected.
But what I really wanted to know is, uh, well, what this has to do with is I'm getting really, you know, disillusioned with all of modern music and the way that it's getting so angry, angst-filled, and violent.
And I'm trying to take my own music in a direction that is more to the uplifting of what people hear and I just wondered if
there's anything that I could do to raise my own consciousness of how to reach people
through the music that I'm writing.
All right that's a very good question.
Hang on through the bottom of the hour, or rather listen on the radio, and we'll try and address that with regard to music when we come back.
It is the bottom of the hour.
Robert Ghostwolf is my guest.
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all right i would imagine um robert if you're there uh you have
encountered with the morning sky uh... from time to time have you not
Yes, I have.
I've met him on quite a few occasions.
Do you two find much in common, or do you differ?
We differ on different issues, but I think we have a commonality in the message and the empowering of people.
And I think that Robert has an incredible body of knowledge that he works with.
Two Roberts, but a similar, or at least some commonality, just a slightly different approach than her.
Slightly different approach, and again, that's part of what makes the music and the symphony, isn't it?
That's right.
It's like there's so many things that not one of us can speak about it, and yet we all have to speak a little pieces of it.
Well, let's talk symphonies for a moment, and music.
The caller asked about drums and music.
What about drums?
How do drums, what do they do?
Well, drums are absolutely an incredible healing tool.
Drums go in to literally move the energy in our bones and it's in our bones that we hold all the emotion.
We hold all the emotional memory.
When we work in a native way and we work with the skulls of a buffalo or we don't like to disturb our grave sites.
It's because we believe that the memory is held in the bones, the emotional memory is literally held in the bones.
You can go through various types of contemporary therapy like roughing and what not, deep body massage.
You can go to Robert Monroe's Institute where they'll put frequencies in to literally release the emotional traps that you have in your bones which lead to arthritis and other kinds of ailments, which have to do with the bones, where people basically are so locked up that they cannot express emotion anymore.
So again, a different method, but the same end.
The same end, and the releasing of that emotion has a tremendous amount of energy to it.
A tremendous amount of energy is released when we release the emotions, and each time that we do, we have another opening to clarity.
The other thing that the drums do is that they unite everybody.
When you were playing the ghost dance song, it's amazing how the borders disappear when you're dancing.
When you're listening to that drum, you'll understand why it's called a ghost dance, because you're bringing up all those ancient memories.
You are bringing up everything that you have ever been, everything that is in your culture,
everything that is in your race, everything that is in your dream world is then being
released and the feeling of dancing which is something that we don't do as a people
anymore.
We used to dance as a people to make things happen and we don't do that anymore.
This is part of the mystery of the trance and the ghost dance.
That's part of the mystery in the trance of any kind of indigenous movement.
The strange thing that people will find, I know that a friend of mine, Mickey Hart, has
many, many albums where he traveled around the world and put together different recordings
of different drumming.
It's amazing the similarities in the beats.
It's interesting you should say that, indigenous.
As you know, Cusco originates in Germany, but they have done nothing but indigenous music, Peruvian, a mixture of Peruvian, and then finally in this third and yet unreleased piece of music that I've been sort of taunting people with, When I received that, I put it on and it stopped me dead
cold.
I mean I never heard anything like it.
I went, oh my!
You are actually on a good sound system.
Yeah, I do.
Hearing it on a good sound system is a mind expanding experience, let me put it that way.
It really is.
It does that.
There is a rhythm.
There is a frequency.
It all feeds into putting you into a different place, an altered state.
And it puts you into a place where you don't have to use your mind to open the door, and you just find yourself on the other side of the doorway.
Yeah, that's it.
This is the magic of the drum.
All right.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Robert.
Hi.
I have a couple of questions.
I'm a student of Catholic prophecy.
And when you were talking about some of these prophecies from the Hopi, they seem to go right along with some of the Catholic prophecies that I've read, like the three days of darkness.
That's right.
And the pole shift.
And the pole shift, yes.
Well, Fr.
Martin, you know, talked of three days of darkness coming fairly soon.
Right.
Now here's one of my questions.
Is there anything in Hopi prophecy about a comet hitting the earth or a piece of it?
A rain of boulders?
And entities that come to the earth, not specifically ET's, but evil entities on one side and great
ones or angels on the other side?
Let us begin with a comet.
There surely is Hopi prophecy regarding comets.
That there is.
We have just experienced the comet Hale-Bopp.
And to many of the Hopi, that was the twins returning.
As a matter of fact, they have a ring that was made by the Hopi a long, long time ago, and it has on it a red comet with two white tails coming out of it and three blue tails.
And we are told that first the twins would come.
The story of the twins is that one had domain over the North Pole and one had domain over the South Pole.
That would indicate spiritual connection.
Many of the indigenous prophecies and stories were told.
I say stories because that's how indigenous people have carried their knowledge.
It's basically an oral tradition.
So the stories are history.
Again, the North and South Pole has to do with spiritual entry and spiritual exit.
If we take that and apply that toward Admiral Byrd, who went up to the North Pole and found an entrance into the earth.
If we take that and we follow many of the dances that Indians will do as they're getting prepared for the spirit world and the acknowledgement of the spirit way, and when we work with the medicine wheel, we're always told that the South is where our spirit comes from and where our spirit goes.
So there's a spiritual connection to this.
If Comet Hale-Bopp was as you suggested, prophetic as you suggested, what then comes next?
What then comes next is the purifier.
The purifier is the red comet that will be seen in our heavens.
And that it will basically come into, you know, we'll be able to see it in our solar system.
And when it comes it will become stationary.
It will stay in one place.
And it will observe.
And it will see what we have learned and how we have changed our ways.
If we have changed our ways and walk in balance, then perhaps we can change the outcome.
Otherwise, the purifier comes to put things back into balance.
In other words, if we don't change it, then the forces of nature, the forces of Creator, will come to change it.
Regarding good and evil, good and evil is in the ways that I look at it.
Good and evil is a myth.
There is no good and evil.
There is evil intent, which is usually born of man.
But in the creation itself and all that is, there is no good and evil.
There simply is.
It's a state of is-ness.
There is no judgment.
The Creator could not judge itself, himself, herself, or else in the moment that it judged, it would cease to be.
But what we're talking about is our connection to these star beings.
Which, you know, we are absolutely in a stage of growth.
We haven't even finished growing yet.
Our skulls are literally still movable.
That's why we have so much craniosacral work being done.
And if we go back to, which is now fairly accessible knowledge, and you can get up through the website even, you can go and see many of the burial sites in South America, which you'll see beings and skulls, physical skulls, where they had elongated skulls.
Very similar to what we see in the Egyptian story, and again those stories are coming together now.
What we're dealing with is our own traits and we're dealing with our own inner war.
If there's an Armageddon, the Armageddon is occurring within the DNA as the DNA learns how to adjust to itself, as we learn how to merge all these different beings that we are, these different consciousnesses that have been put into our DNA.
We hold over 22 different strands of DNA in our blood that for years we were told, well they were just excess DNA and we didn't know what to do with it.
It's like when they look at the brain and they go, it's just gray matter.
A lot of stuff happens in the gray then and where we are now is that we are about to go through a growth stage.
A lot of people use the word, sometimes I think perhaps it's the language that we use.
You know, to say it's the end time could be taken very negatively, or we could say it's the beginning time.
Yeah, that's right.
It's where we're now going to the next stage of growth.
This is where the whole new dream occurs.
Perhaps everything that we've been told for the last 5,000 years, especially the last 2,000 years in sanctioned religion, Perhaps has to do with a whole bigger story that is about to unfold and is unfolding as we walk through it.
So when you say the dream is over, you could also say, and the dream is about to begin.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like, well, the wintertime comes and it looks like everything's dying.
But the one thing you know is that in the spring the grass will come back, the leaves will come back.
Maybe it's not what it appears to be.
I have a couple questions here.
I was listening earlier and I do believe you were talking about the lack of minerals in people's bodies is a problem.
moment to create what tomorrow will be.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, my next question is, if you, say for example, in your magnetic water condition, if you change the properties of the minerals, wouldn't that in effect change the properties in us?
No.
No.
Absolutely not.
The minerals remain minerals.
All that the magnetics do, you change the properties or even remove the minerals when you use machines and moving parts.
I don't want to turn this into a commercial, The magnetics only affect the minerals with regard to how they stick to pipes and appliances and metal and that sort of thing.
They still do you the same good in your body when they get into your body.
Okay, well if they don't stick to pipes, say copper or iron, well our bodies are composed of copper and iron, so wouldn't those metals not stick to us?
No, they're not composed of copper and iron, they contain copper and iron.
No, but our bodies do have that in us.
They contain copper and iron.
Right, right.
And they require copper and iron.
That is not how we absorb minerals, sir.
In other words, it doesn't pass by some copper and suddenly stick to that, and then you have additional copper.
That's what you're trying to say.
No, no, no.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is the certain minerals, how they stick to the copper in your, say, for example, in your pipes.
Well, wouldn't that, if there are little copper fragments in our bodies, No, you're not exactly right.
I mean, you're sort of right, but you're not right.
There is that sort of situation happening in our bodies now with calcification.
A lot like our intestines in a lot of people are calcifying.
There is calcified mucous that builds up inside the body, inside the bloodstream,
inside the veins, inside the arteries.
This is what blocks the flow and the movement.
Everything is movement.
We live in a moving world.
We live in a moving universe.
They block up.
What this does in the water is like Art saying, it moves things so that things flow.
What it also does is it keeps the molecules from clogging up on each other so that we
can't absorb them.
Then it separates them.
It makes them move again.
They now move at a higher frequency.
Then all of a sudden we start absorbing them again.
It's amazing what little work it does and how short a period of time that we can change
our whole attitude simply because of a lack of a mineral.
To answer your question, Paula, when you use traditional conditioning...
It washes and backwashes and uses chemicals and removes what you really need.
Correct.
And that's what you don't want.
Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a giant commercial.
I hope that answers your question.
Okay, I just have one more quick question.
So, in turn, if the magnetics change the water to keep it flowing freely through the pipes, would that in turn help us to keep us flowing freely?
Yes.
Okay, have a good night, John.
Thank you very much.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Good morning.
Good morning.
My name is Tim, and I'm in Oasa, Kansas.
Hi, Tim.
Yeah, I've got a question about, well, I am a Christian by nature, and I'm kind of, it sounds like, oh, by prophecy of revelations, the second coming of Jesus, except for it says in the Bible that We're not going to be able to amend our ways, and he's going to destroy humankind and then raise up the people that were saved.
It sounds a lot like it, and... I'm trying to figure out, I've been thinking, when you said the comet that was stationary...
The purifier, yes.
The purifier, as I understand Hopi prophecy, will come and take a look-see.
That's a good way to put it.
Yeah, well, that sounds like in the revelations where Jesus is going to come down.
He won't set foot on the earth, but then he's going to cast judgment.
That sounds a lot like it.
It sounds a lot like it, is correct.
Thank you, Caller.
He's correct.
It sounds a lot like it.
There are many, many, many parallels.
Don't you mention, you get a lot of harmonics.
Between biblical Christian belief and Native American prophecy, many, many, many parallels.
Is that discussed among elders?
Is that recognized?
Or is it discarded?
It's discussed amongst elders.
It's discussed amongst many people.
From my experience as I've traveled with different people, as I've sat down and listened to what the Inca had to say, or what the Maori had to say, or what the Mayan people had to say, or when I was in Europe and I studied with the indigenous people there.
They have incredible indigenous people up in Lapland, and they have incredible indigenous people in Greece and Hungary.
What is always amazing is the commonality of many of the messages.
But the difference in deliverance, it's just the difference in deliverance.
We work with, in the Native American way that we look, it's always tied to the earth.
It's always tied to where we are and what we're doing.
We don't tend to disacknowledge our existence on the physical plane.
It's part of the spirituality.
All the way, Art.
Uh, so we shall then.
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All right, back now to my guest, I was thinking about something that might be interesting.
We were talking about different parallels between different prophecies.
Historically, we're going through an incredible parallel right now.
When the Europeans came over here, basically everything was free.
The land was open.
Everybody moved.
It was an incredible place, full of abundance.
A great retail store.
And where we are now is that if we go back to the 19th century, if we go just prior to say 1890, we realize that the entire world of the Native American disappeared in less than one generation.
Less than one generation.
There is another world disappearing.
Here's a fact for you.
Canadian television news this evening is reporting that scientists have indicated They believe the salmon run this year has been changed by the unusually warm Pacific waters.
Instead of coming down the west coast of Vancouver Island through the Straits of Juan de Fuca and up the Fraser River, the salmon this year are avoiding the warm waters in the Pacific, and they're coming down the east coast of Vancouver Island and up the Fraser River.
Wow!
So, um, more evidence.
More evidence.
I used to go salmon fishing a lot up in that area because I lived in that area for a long
time.
I know I've gotten a lot of calls from my friends this year that there's no salmon.
Here I think is a right on target question.
The survivors, if any, of a global environmental catastrophe resulting from human activities
would be forced into changing their relationship with the planet from the same level of unfettered,
reactive self-interest as a child who avoids putting his hand on the stove after being
painfully burned.
Would this be such a bad thing if we refused to learn the lesson any other way?
When the preservation of profits, jobs, and status quo power structures is the entrenched prime directive of most governing bodies, what real chance is there to throttle back the immensely destructive human economic footprint on earth politically viable half Well, that goes back to a lot of the prophecies you've been talking about tonight.
Yes.
That if we don't change it, then a greater hand will move it.
And, yeah, we have become so entrenched in everything that we were caught in our own labyrinth.
We don't know how to get out of the labyrinth.
The situation here is that I think that as these changes continue, as this quickening intensifies, we are going to be forced to deal with our humanity.
Yes, it's a terrible thing to have floods.
It's a terrible thing to have tornadoes.
It's a terrible thing to have natural disasters.
But you know, in my experience, in my short little dance here on this earth, it's amazing what happens to people when something like that happens.
It's amazing how their differences have dropped.
It's amazing how they start to work together.
It's amazing how they pull out of something.
Well, here's another good reason to do it.
Dear Art, the Associated Press just reported that North America's largest glacier is melting fast.
The Bering Glacier in Alaska has lost some 50 square miles in surface area and has shrunk 7.4 miles.
Sections of the 118 mile long glacier, which originates in Canada's Yukon Territory, terminates near the Gulf of Alaska, have thinned Up to 180 yards, about 20 to 25 percent of its total thickness.
Other shrinking glaciers now reported in Argentina, Peru, Iceland, Norway, and New Zealand.
I mean, really folks, how many bells have to go off?
Is that a play on words?
Well, I guess it sounded that way.
There's something else about the glaciers melting up around Alaska that hasn't been brought out yet, and that is that they are finding out evidences of other civilizations prior to what we call contemporary history.
They are now discovering things and artifacts that indicate That something was going on up there, probably before the glacial period.
And I'm sure that some of this is going to hit the news very soon.
But I thought that was pretty amazing.
And also, do we ever hear anything more about the big chunk that was breaking off in the South Pole?
You mean the Antarctic?
Right.
That would be the big one.
Yes, it is.
They expect it within 18 months.
And I think that's considered by the scientists to be a sure thing.
That would definitely fall into the line with the 1998 cycle.
Yeah, and if the Ross Ice Shelf should follow suit, we've got big troubles.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Good morning.
Good morning, Art.
This is Kathy and Reno.
Hi, Kathy.
Hi, Mr. Ghost Wolf.
It's an honor.
We weren't intending upon calling this evening, but something has come up that we wanted to maybe alert you to, and it's quite ironic that you guys brought up comets, as is the case every evening when we listen to your show, Art.
We sit out and watch the stars, and for some crazy reason, there's what we can deem as no other thing Other than being a comet is sitting out there, and it's not held up.
And if I could give you, gentlemen, the coordinates, that'd be kind of neat.
Maybe somebody else could see it.
Well, what are you seeing?
Where is it you're seeing it?
If you actually have coordinates, sure.
Well, I've got the coordinates as best I can, you know, from sitting here in my home in Reno.
And we've been watching it since 10 o'clock.
Has it been stationary?
Yes, it has, as a matter of fact, and there is no cloud cover tonight.
Okay.
Meaning when I say stationary, are the other stars moving and it's in the same place?
Oh, no, no, no.
No, it's moving with them.
Okay.
It's moving along.
Alrighty, here's the coordinates.
I look straight east out my back window.
You know the big W that's off to an angle, or here in my book it says Cassiopeia?
Okay.
Looks like a big giant W to the east, northeast.
If you jog over just a few degrees, there's a series of three stars leading up to this, and you can't see this little glow unless you're looking through either binoculars or a telescope, but it is... that is all that we can figure out that it is, and there's not supposed to be one sitting there.
Currently, the big W is sitting right at 10 o'clock, And it is just, well, if you held your hand up, maybe three to four inches to the right of the big W, also sitting at 10 o'clock.
It'd be kind of cool if some other people would get out there and see if they couldn't walk in on that.
Well, you know they will, and we'll get reports, so let's see what we get.
Kind of ironic.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Thank you, and have a good morning.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I'm very surprised you mentioned the Bering Glacier.
I'm sitting 60 miles from it.
Are you?
Wow!
Yes, I'm calling from Prince William Sound.
We've also had no fish this year.
It's been very interesting.
I like also Art Bell, your book, The Quickening, and I do like the drumming.
I'd like to mention that one time I began singing and a ceremonial drum flew across the wall.
I did have a question for Mr. Ghost Wolf if he wouldn't mind taking the time.
I've spent years with Tibetans who said that I should probably work on uniting the four
colors and I've spent several years in spirit lodges within Montana and I've reached this
point that I seem to be surpassing the people that I'm surrounded by.
I tend to find more anger, hatred, viciousness.
I'm exhilarated about the point I'm achieving and yet I feel a sadness in leaving these
people behind.
I don't know whether to stay and continue to try one hand toward the people and the
other hand toward the Creator or to return to the people that are working on this same
level.
I'm very confused.
I think that everyone who is on the path, so to speak, goes through that part of the
pathway.
When we start to see the flaws in the teacher, when we start to see the humanness in the
teacher, it means that we have absorbed everything that we have to absorb from that area.
Then what we come through is we then open up within ourselves the third eye, we open up the upper chakras, we start to see.
And what we have to be cautious of at that point is that our vision, our sight, does not become negative, that we do not become jaded by what we're seeing, because we're not seeing it to judge.
We're being given the opportunity to see it so we can evaluate and move forward.
It's usually at that point, once you deal with that part of it, that the student then becomes the teacher themselves.
That's amazing.
I find myself overwhelmingly full of love and peace, but somewhat frustrated with those who don't seem to hear it.
I appreciate your time, and I appreciate Art Bell for having you on.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Robert, I'm getting a lot of messages like the following.
I called the number given to order Robert's manuscript.
It is a voicemail number and does not give the option of leaving a message.
And is full.
Is it simply because the line is busy and I can't get through, or what?
It could possibly be because we're over-inundated with phone calls.
You know, again, try 509-465-1606.
That's the number they're apparently getting this... Well, what might happen is, if she's on the line, then it'll automatically go over to a male.
Because she can only handle one phone call at a time.
Unfortunately, I don't have more than one phone available.
I think we gave out the voicemail number, which was 509-623-2496.
Those are the only two lines that we have available at this point.
Anyway, it's not going to matter because these manuscripts are going to be gone, if not already, soon.
Well, if they keep trying, they can also order the book.
That's right.
So if you run out of the manuscript, you can order the book and then you'll be one of the first ones to get it, because from what I understand, I think we're We have almost two-thirds of the book already ordered.
All right, back to the phones.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hi.
This is John in Wichita, Kansas.
Hi, John.
I need to ask, Robert, if the prophecies tell anything about us lost souls that are Caucasian and mixed Native Americans that can find no records of our past generations, are we going to be lost in limbo?
You'll not be lost in limbo.
No way will you be lost in limbo.
I'm not.
The Metis people are perhaps the largest body of people here in the Turtle, you know.
I cannot find my grandmother's records anywhere I've called all the nations.
There was a lot that happened in those times, you know, that now everybody's concerned with numbers and things.
There were many people, I mean, you know, who had to run, who had to hide their Indianism.
That had to hide their heritage, because if they didn't, it was a matter of survival.
They had to do that.
They didn't teach their children the ways, and now what's happening is we're waking up to that.
That's part of what this ghost dance is about.
I think we're all soulmates in the end.
You won't be lost.
The Earth doesn't give up her children.
Well, I thank you and Art for being here tonight.
Okay.
Godspeed.
Thank you, my friend.
Take care.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yes, hello.
How are you?
Fine.
We're both fine.
Robert, you're precious.
Thank you very much.
You're so in tune.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
I'm a little nervous and I think I'm maybe reiterating some things that you already said.
Robert, a history is kept of people who lived in the American continent many years ago and they were destroyed.
It was before Christopher Columbus came, and about 150 years ago it was found and translated, and it's called the Book of Mormon.
And I'm wondering, have you read any of the information?
It was written basically so that we wouldn't repeat the same mistakes that they made, as far as spiritually and different things.
And I was wondering, do you have any comment on that?
Have you read it or heard about it or anything?
I haven't read the Book of Mormon.
I've read parts of it.
I've had people talk to me about it.
I spend a lot of time in Utah and there are people in my world that are Mormon.
There are many, many truths in the book.
There are many, many truths in the book.
My personal quest is to bring forth the rest of the truths.
That's what's precious about you because I know that in the translation there had to
have been a lot that was lost in the history.
There's a lot of it in my book Last Cry and I'm working on a new book now which has no name yet because the information is coming out.
Many of the stories are very old and they go back to a time before anybody was here when this was still the Red Lab.
Right.
We are now bringing all those pieces together.
In the chaos, that's part of what's so wonderful about this time.
The information is falling into place.
It seems to be coming out of everywhere.
It's exuding out of the rocks.
It's coming out of the caves in South America.
We're finding pieces of Egyptian pottery in Peru.
Mayan artifacts in New Zealand, I mean it's all starting to come together so maybe this veil is going to be lifted.
I do believe that and I do believe what you say that there are many pieces and I kind of wonder if maybe the Native Americans aren't the ones that have the gift to bring it all together.
I mean I know there's a lot of people but I kind of have a special place in my heart for them.
Also I just want to mention that in our religion we also have I say my religion because that's what I know.
I'm sure a lot of people have the same kind of description.
We have a belief that at the second coming that the earth will become a crystal sphere
in the millennium.
That seems to kind of go along with what you're saying.
Your words are much more articulate than what...
When we move through the shift and the other side of the shift, we will essentially be
in the world of light.
When we are in the world of light, we will be in a crystal universe, which is the true
nature of the universe.
Right now we're looking at things through a warped eye of third dimensional reality,
which is really very narrow.
We're looking at ourselves and declaring the whole universe.
It's sort of like some little guy sitting in the middle of France in the 12th century
trying to tell you what the world was like.
Now we're looking at the world through the same eye.
We're going back, reading a lot of documents, especially through European history, where it's so new and it was such a naive world that they were afraid to look out and talk to everybody else to see what the commonalities were.
And now what's happening is, in this information age that we're in, we're exploding with the knowledge.
This is again where we have to trust within that inner guidance within ourselves that lets us know that when your heart tells you this is what it is, you know that that's what it is.
The mind can play tricks.
The intellect cannot have complete information, but the heart is always true.
I'd like to know more about your next book.
Well, the next book is called The Return of the Nawal.
It has to do with a lot of healing and principles on the higher level of working with energy, and that should be out in the fall or late winter.
I never know when the publishers are going to put these things out.
But the book that I'm working on now that I'm talking about has to do with the pale
prophet.
It has to do with the being who is known by many names.
The Lakota called him Wekomatete.
The Salish people called him Tacoma.
Down in South America they called him Quetzalcoatl.
In Peru he was known as Amaru.
This being seemed to spread a very similar doctrine that we talked about.
Robert, hold tight.
We'll be right back.
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Well, good morning.
My guest... My guest is Robert Ghostwolf, and he'll be back in a moment.
Alright, uh, this is something that I think, uh, Mr. Ghostwolf and myself both should address.
I, too, wrote a book, as you know.
It's called The Quickening.
This book, uh... This book... just came from me.
I had no intention of writing another book, none at all.
But through the years of watching what was going on, it was a book I had to write.
And it documents what is going on right now.
I'm not a prophet of any sort, modern or ancient, so I don't try to tell you where it's going.
I don't really know.
These are questions for other people.
A faxer has asked me a question that I think deserves addressing.
By the way, you can get my book, The Quickening, and I surely recommend it because it does very carefully document some very frightening changes that are going on in our society, very, very frightening.
You can get it now in any bookstore.
You just go to a bookstore and ask for The Quickening.
But there's a criticism, and it's worthy of a challenge.
You have occasionally spoken of your concern that by dwelling on the frightening aspects of the quickening, you may be helping to create it.
Some of the discussion this morning has been about how we create our own reality.
And from me in the quickening, and from Robert in much of Native American prophecy, there is the same, and I don't deny it, and I've considered it carefully.
I went ahead and documented what I saw going on, but Robert, this faxer is in some ways correct.
When you dwell on the negative, when you dwell on what's going on, even if it is real, do you add to that growing reality?
I think, Art, that the key word here is dwell.
I think when we turn around and prophecy is a potential outcome, it's a potential reality, it's a future reality, and when we give prophecy in the gender of this is what could happen, when we give prophecy, that's prophecy.
But when we're talking about dwelling on the negative, if I don't know that there's a storm coming, then how will I know to prepare?
If I know what the facts are, which is something that I tried to get out to the best of my
ability in Last Cry, if I get the facts out without my own personal coloring to it, then
people can assimilate the knowledge of that on their own and at least be prepared for
what will come, not that they are taken by surprise.
When we reach a point that we are talking about, if you don't do something in the next
90 days, you are going to have a serious problem in your oceans.
Jacques Cousteau talked about that in 1989.
When we have been crying out for so long that we don't really need to use all this fossil
fuel and to do all the stuff that we are doing and we are being run by industry and corporations
that say, it has to be this way and we are not going to let this out and we can't let
that out because it will ruin our financial purse.
Well, people have got to know what the alternative is.
They've got to know what's coming.
I don't think that that's a negative at all.
I think that that's a positive, providing that we always address the other side of the coin.
There's a dark side and a light side to things.
What would you say to people?
Fully understanding what is coming and understanding that if they maintain their present lifestyle and their way of doing things and treating the planet, it's going to result in something awful and yet plow ahead anyway.
What I say to them?
Yeah, what do you say to them?
Because it's the majority right now.
Yes, the majority, but I think that a lot of what's happening right now from all these
occurrences and things that we're seeing in the sky, whether you want to believe that
they're ships or whether you want to believe it's the government manipulating holograms,
they're flares being trained to fly with porpoises in the sky in formation.
What we're seeing and what we're seeing with all the artifacts that are being found, what
we're seeing with what is eventually going to be disclosed on Mars and Cydonia as the
fact that we did have a previous route beyond this planet, which if we look at the evidence
it's overwhelming.
But what we're seeing here is that there is something bigger than us and that we are part
of a bigger picture and we're being directed to look at that bigger picture.
We're almost being forced to look at that bigger picture.
We're being so homogenized into earth beings now, perhaps this is the preparation for the
galactic relationship.
How can we expect to have galactic relationships when we can't even have a healthy relationship on this planet?
I think that everything is happening to bring us into that oneness, so it's an absolute positive situation.
Everything that I put through, and if it's not in Last Cry once, it's in there a thousand Everything that we have is choice.
We have always been given choice.
We are not being led down a narrow pathway to hell.
We have choice at any moment to participate or not to participate.
We have the choice to be awake or to not be awake, and that's the way it's going to be.
For the people who are seeing, they've got to learn that there may be other people that may be asleep right next to them, and that's okay.
John Lennon taught us about that.
I can't wake everybody up, he said.
But we have to get the word out as we see it.
I know that when I listen to your show and I listen to all these incredible people that call up and talk, it's such an incredible thing to have the playback from people instead of just a one-way show where the information is going out and you're not getting any feedback.
But I think that people have the ability to discern what is really happening and they have the opportunity to hear the unbiased information before it comes to them colored.
Right.
And previous to this time of the information age, we didn't have that luxury.
Now we do.
And maybe the upstart of a lot of things and the charging of situations is that a lot of it is coming out as it's being discovered.
We haven't had time to color it yet.
What I do is I assume and I try to give information to my listeners from guests or from myself And just relate it, and I assume that they're adults and can assimilate it and will either accept it, understanding it, or reject it, but they're adults and they can decide for themselves.
This is serious information.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Hi, my name is Tom.
I'm calling from northwestern Pennsylvania.
Hi Tom.
Hi.
I called you before and I had I wanted to ask Mr. Ghost Wolf if he has ever heard of Mary Summer and I'm probably sure he has.
She writes of the teachings that she received from a Native American prophet named Noah.
I'm very familiar with them.
I wanted to know what he had thought of her and the writings.
I think that the information that Noah shared Has to be paid a lot of attention to.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Art, he's in Phoenix.
I see.
How are you?
How are you, Robert?
Hi.
Listen, this has been all over the news lately.
I heard again today about the skull they found.
Apparently it wasn't supposed to be where it was supposed to be with the Native American Indians, I believe, and it was a Caucasian skull.
And apparently it was confiscated.
The scientists wanted to study it.
I think it was the Indian authorities.
I'm not sure if it was the government that took it away.
Do you know about that?
I haven't heard anything about that.
It's all over the news.
I've heard something about it, but I don't exactly recall what.
I think they had not quite decided what it was.
Something like that.
Is that correct?
Yeah, well, the first time I heard it, they said a Caucasian was here.
Apparently, this sounds like a hoax before the Native American Indians.
Sounds like a government hoax to me, but... Anyway, nice to talk to you.
Alright, thank you very much for the call.
Yeah, I've heard something about that, but I don't know the whole story, and I'm not even sure it's out yet.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Ghostwolf.
Hi.
Yes, Robert, you mentioned something about we were in our own created labyrinths.
I would like to make a comment about that.
What you are speaking of is mazes and in a true labyrinth there are no dead ends or no
wrong ways.
It's true.
We are all following our paths and someone like you or Jeffrey Dahmer would have an equally
meaningful story, if you know what I mean.
I don't believe there are any dead ends.
It just changes the direction.
Exactly.
Alright, sounds like you agree.
First time caller on the line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hi there.
Robert Morningsky.
Robert, close for me.
I'm never going to get it straight.
This is Gail in Oregon.
Hi, Gail.
Hi, and I'm just too excited to finally get through.
But I wanted to ask a practical question.
It's quite obvious with all the information coming in that we need to be inclusive, not exclusive, on a physical plane as well as spiritually.
But with this chaos coming and all the hard times coming, we know how we react.
Everybody's going to be in the streets with guns.
How do we approach that?
We can't just walk up to these guns and sing and dance.
How do we start our spiritual journey and come together?
That's a hard question.
Why can't you sing and dance?
Let me just share a story with you.
There was this warrior standing by the side of a river.
He was a great warrior.
He had killed many people.
He was very brave and had all sorts of whatever that they wear to show how brave he was and
how good he was at his prowess of slaughtering people.
He came up to a being who was down crouched over leaning and drinking some water from
the river.
He raised up his sword and he was all set to lock the guy's head off.
The guy turned around and looked at him and had absolutely no judgment and nothing but
love coming out of his eyes.
In that moment, in that one moment, the conquest was completely taken away from the warrior
because the attitude was, take me if that's your will.
If you don't charge a situation, you won't be charged.
You can walk right through a ghetto on a Friday night at 2 o'clock in the morning, and if you're not charged with the energy and you're not walking in judgment, you'll walk right through that.
I wouldn't suggest people try it.
Yes, I've had that experience.
If I give you no contest, then where is it?
Where is the victory?
There is no need for a victory.
If you want to go and you want to maraud, as far as people who don't want to experience that, you don't have to live in the middle of West L.A.
You could get out.
You could go and live on a lot somewhere with a single wife somewhere and live in the country.
You could do that.
You could make that choice, but it's a matter of What is your choice?
Yes, there are those kinds of people.
Yes, there are extraterrestrials that aren't nice.
Yes, there are extraterrestrials that really are like Spock.
Well, then you're going to draw yourself to that negativity.
It's like, yes, there are those kinds of people.
Yes, there are extraterrestrials that aren't nice.
Yes, there are extraterrestrials that really are like Spock.
It's like, which one do you want to gravitate to?
In your life, if you're happy and you're full of giving, you're going to draw those kind
of people to you.
If you're constantly belittling yourself and slamming yourself down, and I'm not worthy and this isn't worthy, well then you're going to draw that kind of people to you.
You're going to draw that kind of energy because it's all energy.
We're stuck in third dimensional reality and we think it's reality.
It's not.
It's an illusion.
I had a friend once who I called the coffee shop guru.
I have a question for Mr. Ghost Wolf.
I have a question for Mr. Ghost Wolf.
I am from southwest Minnesota, old prairie country, a state park just a few miles north
of my town.
Still has a nice herd of American bison.
And when I was a junior in high school, I had the privilege of being at a youth speakers
forum at the state capitol in which Clyde Bellacourt spoke.
Do you know Mr. Bellacourt at all?
I don't know him.
Well, he shared on the last day of our speakers forum, he shared a pipe ceremony with us.
And ever since then, you know, I...
Even before that, just because of the area I grew up in, with the rocky prairie bluffs and preserved prairie, I felt a real spiritual kinship to the land.
I think that is one of the things that is missing the most in American society, where it has become a commodity and not a true spiritual resource.
I can't help but notice the parallels between the Tibetan Buddhism that people have been mentioning all night long.
The story you just recounted about the warrior who didn't sever the head of a potential victim likens to the story of King Ashoka who upon meeting Buddha and hearing of Buddhism renounced his warrior ways and became one of the great distributors of Buddhism throughout Southeast Asia.
I'll share one thing with you.
Part of the thing of the ghost dance is that when the ghost dance was performed it was believed that the buffalo would return.
One of the other prophecies that I speak about a lot, it's in my book and it's up on my website, is about the white buffalo calf woman and something that I can't disclose where.
But I've got it now from twelve different sources that the fourth white buffalo calf has been born.
Really?
There was one that happened just south of where I live currently, which is in Madison, Wisconsin.
I think it was in Beloit or Janesville about two years ago.
There was a white buffalo calf born.
It was a popular news item among the novelty journalists and the Native Americans who truly Yes, it is.
You live in the Pacific Northwest, is that correct?
Yes.
terms for the ghost dance was the buffalo dance. That was performed frequently by the
Lakota people of the area which I come from. But it's a beautiful area. You live in the
Pacific Northwest, is that correct? Yes. Sometimes, sometimes I'm in Arizona. The prairies of
the state park just north of my hometown of Laverne, Minnesota is really nice. There's
a rare prairie orca that still grows there. It's something like 1200 acres of pure untouched
prairie. Something you might be interested in looking up, because it might ring a lot
of bells there, is if you look under geological formations you'll find out that that area,
especially as you go toward the Black Hills.
Glacial?
Is, is literally, no, it's literally the oldest land here.
Like going back when all the continents were together?
Uh huh.
It's, it's the original Earth that was part of this turtle.
Caller, we've got to scoot.
We're way out of time.
Bye, kid.
Right, thank you very much.
And, uh, Robert?
Um, give out that number one more time, and everybody has to be patient.
There's only one line, so... It's 509.
5-0-9 4-6-5 4-6-5 1-6-0-6 1-6-0-6 And they could try that throughout the day today, right?
Yeah, they'll be able to get it.
There's usually always somebody there.
Alright, good enough.
There must be a way in perhaps your Lakota native tongue to say goodnight to all the Americas.
Robert, can you do that?
Yeah, the war was still occurring.
But the whole of Utopia isn't.
Remember, you're all one.
Hehe.
All right, my friend.
It has been a pleasure, as always, and we've made it through five full hours.
Wow, I didn't even realize that went by.
You always do that to me.
Well, it's always so easy, Robert.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And good night.
That's Robert Ghostwolf, and that's about it, folks.
That's all there is.
And by the way, Robert Morning Sky, wherever you are, goodnight to you too.
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