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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - David Oates - Reverse Speech

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	Welcome to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	From the high desert and the great American southwest.
	Across all those many time zones.
	From Hawaii and the Tahitian Islands.
	Eastward over flyover country.
	To the Caribbean.
	South into South America.
	North to the pole.
	Worldwide on the internet.
	This is a very sad edition.
	Close to close to AM.
	Good morning everybody.
	There's been a death in the family.
	It's been with me for I guess about a year and a half.
	It began having trouble two or three days ago.
	Not moving the way it used to.
	Like a sudden onset of and curable arthritis.
	Just before air time, about two hours, maybe an hour and a half before air time, I'm finally expired.
	My Hewlett Packard 950 FACTS machine is dead.
	And I just... I don't know if I can go on.
	This machine has been with me now As you well know, for at least a year and a half, maybe two.
	Performing flawlessly, if at times somewhat messily.
	It spit out faithfully faxes while I slept, while I ate, while I waited, while I did the program.
	It spat out faxes.
	Tens of thousands of faxes.
	Finally, its little bones would no longer function.
	Its little vessels of It's pouring ink, no longer pouring forth.
	It's little ink cartridge no longer moving.
	Error codes zipping out at me.
	It finally died.
	Why do we attach ourselves so much to machines?
	It is, after all, just... What am I talking about?
	Like, it's current seems like it's still here.
	It was just a machine.
	Coming up to air time, I did everything but give it mouth-to-mouth.
	I oiled it.
	I cleaned it.
	I massaged it.
	I talked to it.
	In my arms, it died.
	Putwacky.
	That was it.
	Truly a sad event.
	Oh, great friend, Hewlett Packard 950 model.
	Rest in peace.
	You're gone.
	Tonight, we will have no faxes for a while.
	Yes, I have another fax machine.
	But it's new.
	It's not the same.
	It's not even fully hooked up yet.
	My wife's doing that.
	I took the old corpse away, and I don't know what I'm going to do with it.
	What do you do with an old machine, anyway?
	Surely you don't throw it away.
	Maybe you bury it.
	Maybe that's it.
	Maybe I'll take it out, dig a hole in the backyard, and bury it.
	What a truly sad day.
	I'm going to be a bad dad.
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	Let me ask you this.
	What is going on to necessitate this so quickly?
	There seems to be a deadline in their brains and they need to get this done.
	They know their whole new world order is inches from going up in flames.
	So they're afraid of the awakening and they know that their collapse is about to take place because we've been asleep at the switch and we've let incredibly corrupt interests take control of our society.
	Now we take you back to the night of August 1st, 1997, on Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Probably ought to observe a moment of silence for the passing of the 9th.
	Oh, H.P.
	I hope you're happy.
	Spitting flawless Faxes out above wherever you are.
	Now, let us go to David John Oates.
	Hi, David.
	Hi, Art.
	How are you?
	My deepest condolences on your loss.
	Thank you.
	It's hard, but... I'm sure you can pull yourself together and make it through the evening.
	I really think I can, David.
	But, you know, as much as I may be making light of this, we have a connection with machines.
	Uh, you know, it's real.
	David, do you have a little light on near your phone or something?
	Because you've got some hum.
	Um... Oh, there you go.
	It's started to go away already.
	Okay, yeah, I've just removed a wire.
	Yeah, that's all you need to... See?
	See?
	I mean, why do humans... Why, David, why do humans have this kind of connection to machines?
	It's like cars.
	Now, some people, for some people, it's cars.
	I don't care about cars.
	Cars get you here to there, I'm happy.
	But fax machines, electronics, that's different.
	Oh yeah, I understand.
	When I have a reversing machine, it devastates me.
	There you are.
	It devastates me.
	There you are.
	But this, boy, this has been with me so long, taking probably actually hundreds of thousands of faxes, I would guess.
	Right.
	Anyway, David, welcome to the program.
	Now I will tell you and the audience When I first listened to you and first heard about reverse speech, I was skeptical, very skeptical, though it was fascinating and certainly very entertaining.
	Over the... It's probably years now, isn't it?
	Two or three years, something like that?
	Oh, it's been over a year, not quite two years yet.
	Not quite two.
	But certainly over a year and hundreds of reversals being played over the airwaves, it's been a long time.
	I personally have become convinced it's real.
	And there's simply no question any longer in my mind.
	Now, the audience is at various stages of belief because a lot of them are fairly new to the concept.
	And when they first hear about it, they react as I did, and they go, oh, what a bunch of crap.
	We're just hearing what we're being told here, or there are various responses people will have.
	And the questions are always the same, you know, do you get it in a foreign language, this sort of thing, that sort of thing.
	So, Reverse Speech 101.
	For the newbies out there, please try as best you can to tell them what it is.
	Well, I try to explain it as simply as I can, and my theory is that this is another form of human communication.
	As the human brain puts together the sounds of speech, it puts them together in such a fashion that two messages are communicated simultaneously.
	The first is forwards, and the second is in reverse.
	Now, these don't happen continuously, as some people think.
	It's actually It's actually occurring once every 10-15 seconds, depends on the emotional state of the conversation.
	There's very short and quick phrases embedded amongst the backwards run gibberish.
	They occur, you know, they're normally four or five words in length.
	They have direct contextual relationship to the forward dialogue.
	In other words, they will usually, not always, but usually relate directly to what's being spoken forward. I maintain it is the way the brain
	constructs the speech sound. Let me stop you there. You said
	usually but not always does it relate to what's being said forward. Now this is a
	critical, critical item for the audience to understand with regard to reverse
	speech. What percentage
	of the time when you find reversals, that is something intelligent,
	intelligible in reverse, what percentage of the time is that or does
	that relate to what is said forward?
	It's well over 80%.
	Well over 80%?
	Yeah, well, between 70, it's hard to tell, but well over, yeah, I would say at least 80%.
	I've never actually, actually, many years ago, I sat down and worked out the percentage, and I, back in the mid-80s when I was Correlating all my notes, I chalked it down at 70%, which is what I've been stating for some time, but I believe it to be higher than that.
	Alright, well look, that's astronomical.
	In other words, if reverse speech was not a real phenomenon, the times that the reverse, whatever it is, should be congruent with what's being said forward would probably be Less than 1%.
	Oh, sure.
	I mean the random factor chart.
	I've never done the mathematical probability stats on it, but... 100 monkey theory.
	There's no way you can put this down to 100 monkey.
	It's like saying... What I'm saying is you would eventually get something that would be or seem relevant, but you wouldn't get it any percentage of the time at all to speak of correct yeah
	yet people need to understand to i think uh... you know when i started this
	doing this i had the same reaction as everyone else i mean i heard the stories
	of that backwardness in rock and roll record that's where i began and i'm
	trying to get give me a break you know i think you know now i've heard everything and uh...
	and uh... i went home quite frankly to get through the whole thing
	I had a bunch of kids, quite scared, listening to records backwards.
	And, you know, from the very first tape I looked at, it was... I mean, I could hear these things, and... Let me ask you this.
	You're absolutely right.
	Backwards... The Beatles did it, we all know, and a lot of it was actually intentional.
	How did that aha moment occur for you?
	Now, I can understand how you stumbled into it, but exactly how did you stumble into it?
	What was the first reversal that really wasn't some intentional back-masking that you heard where you sort of stumbled into it?
	Oh, well, probably the very first curiosity moment was my famous example of Neil Armstrong walking on the moon.
	I will never forget that, because I was actually running a tape backwards.
	It was a compilation of radio.
	Broadcast over the last 50 years and there was little snippets here and there and so I really and I was running the tape backwards from the beginning from the end to the beginning and so I had no idea what was on the forward and then I suddenly heard amongst the gibberish this very clear phrase man will spacewalk and I immediately flipped the tape and I heard Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, and I will never forget that moment.
	It was really quite an eye-opener.
	So that's actually the first one you ever found?
	That was the first one in speech I ever found.
	I'd spent quite some time on music before that, several months, and I was getting all these various records together, and it never dawned on me to look at speech and someone said well why
	don't you and I was actually going to pull out I wanted some historical
	music I was tracking it back from the 1920s onwards sure the history of music and
	and I was down the local record store and saw this record you know famous
	radio broadcast and all some songs in it and that's where I began and then straight
	after the Neil Armstrong example I found the one on the live
	commentary of JFK it says and whether he shot bad excess you know shot bad
	hold it try and look up And then the next significant aha moment from that is a little bit embarrassing.
	I had some friends over, a married couple, over in my apartment back then.
	This was back in Australia, you know, back in the mid-80s, and we were just chatting and recording.
	And I ran the tape back, and the very first thing I heard was reversal on the right, which expressed intense sexual interest towards me.
	And she went bright red with embarrassment.
	This was the wife of a guest in your home?
	This was the wife of a guest in my home.
	Now let me get this straight.
	You were just recording the conversation as it was going on.
	And you know, there is when people meet, no matter what anybody says, always, or not always, but many times, sexual tension.
	Things not said, but thought.
	Right.
	There's no question about it.
	So you're telling me, in the presence of all four of you.
	Well, three of us actually.
	Oh, three, three of us.
	Yeah, I was single back then.
	You were... I see.
	It was the husband and the wife and myself.
	And so you had been recording, fooling around, just recording the conversation, and you played some of it back, and you found something that said... Can you repeat what it said?
	You know what?
	I can't actually remember.
	You used your famous four-letter word.
	It was very obvious, and actually...
	And I've made a, I was telling some of my friends about it the other day, and just commenting on reversals, and I've actually got a reversal here that talks about this specific instrument.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's not the actual reversal I used, but it talks about this incident.
	So let me play that now, if I can.
	Oh yes, by all means.
	Oh yes.
	And I'm just saying, you know, I'm saying that there's certain reversals you don't want to tell people about.
	Oh, first time you've made me laugh since the death.
	Right, OK.
	Go right ahead, David.
	You'll love this one.
	No, you wouldn't do it.
	You don't tell people.
	They wouldn't do it.
	Remember when they're sexual?
	remember when they're sexual.
	You can hear that one, okay?
	And I'm flashing back, I'm remembering, you know, and uh...
	there was another very embarrassing incident back in the mid-nineties when I was doing some of
	my public lectures.
	I used to get people up the front.
	Well, just one second, David.
	You've got to find a way to tell us what she said about you.
	It was a very simple reversal.
	David, I want to F you.
	Okay, that's clear enough.
	And this was with her husband present in the room?
	And so then her face turned bright red.
	Uh-huh.
	The husband shifted uncomfortably.
	Uh-huh.
	They, uh, she left the room.
	Uh-huh.
	Well, actually, she left the house.
	Uh-huh.
	If not the state, are they still together now, or, um... I have no idea.
	Is this woman now your wife?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	She's not my wife.
	Ha!
	I saw her again about a month or so later down the street, but, uh, it created... You created a bit of a rift.
	It ruined friendship.
	Alright, now that's a good question about reverse speech.
	Is reverse speech...
	It's like, they used to have these lie detectors, David, that you would put on your finger, you'd wrap something around your finger, I forget what it was, and you could use it at home, and it broke up a whole lot of marriages.
	Is reverse speech a dangerous thing to be using at home?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yes, it really is.
	I do not do reversals on my mates now.
	I absolutely refuse to.
	I've had a very traumatic romance life over the last ten years as a direct result of reverse speech.
	Some things just aren't meant to be said.
	It's like those little thoughts that we think All the time, and we all think them.
	And, but, heaven forbid, if they should ever be made public.
	That goes right to the very, very heart of the whole thing about reverse speech.
	For the sake of the audience, dredge out good old Neil Armstrong.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	There are a lot of new affiliates, some people haven't heard of them.
	Well, this is why I always start off with Neil Armstrong, because it's got such affection for me, because it really was my very first reversal in speech.
	Of course.
	And I found it without knowing what was on the forward dialogue.
	And of course, in the last few months, I've been getting very involved in space reversals, as you well know.
	Oh, I guess I ought to tell the audience, look folks, tonight, you're going to hear Colonel Corso's, when we get down to serious business here, you're going to hear Colonel Corso's reversals, you're going to hear reversals from the last major NASA news conference that are going to astound you, we're going to do some public figures, we're going to do President Clinton, It's going to be a reverse speech fest.
	I've done a lot of work preparing for this.
	We've got all new material.
	It's a great night.
	I ran through them all.
	I spent two or three hours before I go on the air listening to it and checking and making final notes.
	Some of these reversals are just amazingly clear.
	Exceptionally clear.
	All right, here comes Neil Armstrong.
	Okay, here we go.
	That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
	And back with the cross, man will spacewalk.
	And here it comes.
	Man will spacewalk.
	I mean, how do you explain that?
	Man will spacewalk.
	Well, you don't.
	You don't.
	That's so clear.
	And you actually found that before you even listened to the forward version.
	Before I listened to the forward version.
	And I should point out that for many years, not so much now, but for many, many years, I refused to listen to the tape forwards, because I wanted to reduce my own bias in this.
	I mean, I ask all the questions everyone is asking now, and I know the mental process people are going through, because I've been there, I've done it.
	And I used to listen to the tape backwards.
	And it was, it took me many years to be fully convinced in this.
	And it was like over and over and over again, the contextual basis, the contextual basis.
	And then as I started to become very good at it, it was finding facts, names of people and events and things that they'd done and thoughts they were having and feeling.
	And the evidence is just totally overwhelming.
	All right, so it is, and I agree with David.
	Reverse speech is real, and it is dangerous.
	You're going to hear a lot of it tonight.
	Why is it dangerous?
	We'll talk about that beyond that which we've already said.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
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	You're listening to Arc Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight, featuring a replay of Coaster Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	It's great to be here.
	Still in mourning.
	And I was so in mourning at the beginning of the program that I forgot to tell you about two photographs up on my website.
	One photograph comes to us from Ringgold, Georgia.
	Wherever that is, Ringgold, Georgia, and I have been studying and studying this photograph.
	It is important for you to understand that it's of a UFO, and I get a lot of photographs of UFOs, and I don't send a lot of them forward to the website because they just are not sufficiently clear.
	You know, you get blurry photographs of this or that, and you know, you get a light or a blur, and that's all it is, and there's no point in sending that up there.
	But this one from Ringle, Georgia.
	It's a photo taken of an alien craft on 4697 from the west side of, I guess it's Whittioke Mountain, hovering over Ringle, Georgia.
	And this is an intriguing photograph.
	There is no question about it.
	I want you to know I've got the original photograph.
	Some might be inclined to say it could be, when you look at it, it might be a kite.
	And I can't rule out that possibility.
	But I think, given its forward size, its forward dimensions, which you can sort of perceive, and its size relative to its obvious distance, this one is pretty hard to explain.
	Pretty hard to explain.
	And so I've sent that forward.
	That is up there right now.
	You'll see it as one of the new items.
	Item two, there is a photograph of my wife and myself during happier times in Los Angeles.
	Not very long ago, and someone else took it and sent it to me.
	Thank you very much.
	Somebody was down at the convention in Los Angeles.
	And so I scanned that and sent both, and that's up there as well.
	There's also this really interesting rogue market.
	If you get a chance, go explore the rogue market.
	We just put that up there.
	And I want to thank you all for buying my stock.
	The Rogue Market is a place where you can play buying stock of people.
	People and, you know, celebrities and so forth and so on.
	It's a gigantic, actually very large marketplace.
	And I noted that I was involved in it.
	Or no, somebody sent me a fax and said, you're involved in it.
	So I thought, fine.
	I'll let my listeners know about it.
	And my stock has been breaking the circuit breakers every day.
	So it's got to be good to get in on right now, because I'm telling you, it's got nowhere to go but up.
	No money involved.
	It's all just for fun.
	But it really is fun.
	It's pretty neat fun.
	So those who get in early with me obviously are going to make a lot of
	stock Now we take you back to the night of August 1st 1997 on art
	Bell somewhere in time I
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	you Back now to David Oates.
	David?
	Yes, sir?
	Okay, away we go.
	Okay.
	What are we starting with?
	Well, you know, I said it's, uh...
	Reverse speech is dangerous, and you've proved that point on a personal basis very early on here.
	It gets a lot more dangerous because instead of finding out what your wife secretly thinks, or husband secretly thinks, if you are going to find out what President Clinton secretly thinks, or what your senator secretly thinks, Now that ought to be good.
	Now you're into really, really dangerous territory, and I know your house was burned down.
	Yes, it was.
	We had the burnt-out shell up on top of the hill.
	Actually, they're pulling it down now, finally, and starting to rebuild it.
	So maybe we'll move back in in a year or so.
	We'll see.
	But I will continue on, and we're going to do some dangerous stuff.
	Tonight, we will begin with looking at President Clinton's budget announcement on Wednesday.
	Remember, he made the announcement about the... Agreement?
	Yeah, the agreement about this historic balanced budget that they had finally passed.
	So let's... I have three fairly good reversals on this, so let us begin.
	The budget agreement that we announced today would not be possible Had it not been for the tough vote taken in 1993.
	in 1993. Okay, we're going to run this reversal. I'm going to start off by telling some people, I mean, I don't mind
	not telling, you know, and seeing if people can hear it by themselves, but let's just lead into it slowly. All right.
	And this first reversal says we had to sign it. We had to sign it. Oh God, that's clear. Yeah, I mean,
	I mean, that's just as clear as forward.
	We had to sign it.
	And I'll tell you, there was blood on the floor back in 1993.
	I'll never forget that vote.
	That was back when politics was interesting.
	We had to sign it.
	There was no choice.
	Here it is once more.
	Okay, so that sets the theme.
	There was a real pressure on Well, I guess I'm getting to be an old hand, David, and everybody, David's running these backwards at two speeds.
	I feel like I don't need it, but I guess a lot of people do.
	Yeah, well, they still do.
	I find that some people can't hear it.
	When they're first confronted with this, I mean, you go back to your very first time I was on the air, it was probably the third speed before you could pick up.
	And that's fairly common in class, in the classes they teach for the first One or two months we run them at varying speeds, and as people are used to this and playing a lot of reversals, you know, we begin to hear that normal speed.
	Sure.
	Alright, so here's the second reversal in the budget address.
	By investing fully 24 billion dollars, we will be able to provide quality medical care for these children, everything from regular check-ups to major surgery.
	And this one says, see the fake.
	Look it up.
	She's afraid to look it up.
	She's afraid to look it up.
	You hear that one?
	Yes.
	Yeah, and once more.
	She's afraid to look it up.
	And essentially what it means is what you're seeing is not what it really appears and all one has to do is go and look at the bill or look at what's been passed and it'll become fairly obvious that it is not all that it appears to be.
	And I mean this is no surprise to people that our politicians are not presenting the story the way it really is.
	do you think you might be able to find an asbestos house?
	i think i'm going to have to find something like that yeah i
	i really you know when we well we've made certain security arrangements
	which we hope will work And we had another break into the office this week.
	It's starting to drive me crazy.
	How many times now have they broken into your office?
	This is the third since the fire.
	The fire was in the beginning of April.
	So what's that?
	April, May, June, July.
	Four months.
	You know what I bet, David?
	What's that?
	I bet there are people out there who want to know what's coming next, and whether they might be the one next to be reversed by oats.
	Well, I am building up quite a reputation out there, I'm aware of that, and I've been public for quite some time now, and yeah, some people are nervous.
	I mean, that's fairly obvious.
	Well, most founding fathers, David, have not fared well over history.
	and there's thousands of people out there doing it now and it's just getting more and more popular all the time
	so it's not just me, there's a whole bunch of others but obviously I'm the founder of the movement
	so I'm the one that people look at Well, most founding fathers, David, have not fared well
	over history even those of our own nation were pretty well persecuted,
	burned out and hung Well, I'm going to try and reverse that trend
	I intend to be around here for a long, long, long time.
	Good for you.
	I tell you, I've got two beautiful kids who I am very close to.
	They need their dad.
	That has to factor into your thinking.
	getting serious for a second, that has to factor into your thinking.
	The fact that you have a family.
	I don't know what to do.
	Sometimes I just think I have a blase attitude about it and I ask myself this question too.
	I mean, I had an instance back in Dallas, when I lived in Dallas many years ago, where I was shot at, and we've got this latest one.
	I just keep on going.
	This is my career.
	This is my life.
	I don't know what else I could do now anyway.
	It's really reverse speech and David Oates are one and the same.
	What else am I going to do?
	I believe in this so strongly.
	Once I became personally convinced of it, we need this so much.
	Society needs to come back to honesty and congruity again.
	And there's so many scams and cons and government cover-ups out there.
	We have to find a way to find out what's going on.
	And I believe, and I'm supposed to because I'm the founder, but I believe that reverse
	speech is the way.
	It is the way that we can find out.
	And how can I put that down?
	I mean, I've got to...
	I couldn't do it.
	I mean, once you've found the golden apple, where do you go from there, if you understand
	what I'm trying to say?
	I do.
	And I had confirmation, by the way, through some sources, that reverse speech has been used now by certain covert organizations, whose three-letter initials we all know, for years and years and years and years.
	So really, our government, probably all governments, know about this, don't they?
	Oh, yeah.
	I haven't had confirmations.
	I've had unconfirmed rumours for quite some time.
	Yes, I would be very surprised if they're not using it.
	It's extremely obvious, extremely clear.
	Anyone with half a brain who looks at it seriously and in depth can see that this is real and the security implications are just monumental.
	They really are.
	It's probably one of the most incredible and intelligent tools that anyone can have for example uh...
	back prior to the gulf war
	uh... when saddam hussein was being very belligerent i would imagine if you
	could do do some iraqi river reversals he would be talking about
	peace in the work region and it would uh... probably reverse to
	soon kuwait will be hours Oh, well actually I've got some reversals.
	I did quite extensive analysis on Desert Storm back then and they're actually up on my website in one of the archives.
	Really?
	Yeah, if you go to my website at www.reversespeech.com, that's reverse speech in one word or lower cap dot com, and go to the backtalk section, that's the old newsletter I used to put out.
	And there's several pages on reversals of Saddam Hussein and I think the Iraqi ambassador and Bush and Cheney and there's quite an extensive section back there.
	I am constantly getting requests for you to reverse this person or reverse that person.
	Do you have sort of a top ten list you keep of things you're going to go to work on?
	Well, yeah, probably.
	Let me see.
	Probably top of my list is Ed Dames.
	Second after that is Richard Hogan.
	These are the requests I get constantly.
	Clinton, obviously.
	I have already had half a dozen emails today to reverse your guest from last night.
	I know.
	And for the three hours I listen to him, I would love to do reversals on that.
	Well, let's do it.
	Oh, sure, if you're gay.
	Let's do it, brother.
	Oh, yes, indeed.
	Let's do it.
	Oh, that would be a bonanza.
	My reverse machine will burst in flames, I think.
	I'll go and do that next week.
	Someone actually emailed me this morning and I didn't respond to him.
	He lived fairly close to me and had a tape of it and I just didn't have time to even... I was so busy getting ready for it.
	All right, we'll take advantage of the offer.
	I will do it, and we will do reversals on Brother Muhammad and present them on your program when I'm ready.
	I'm extremely interested in that one.
	Okie dokie.
	There is a mandatory going back, and you've got to give me a couple of the kids because I love the kids.
	Everybody loves the kids.
	Yeah, okay.
	This was when David was very young, early in his reverse speech life.
	When he had infant, when his now children were just infants, you know, babbling baby talk.
	Yeah, and I'm very close to my kids.
	People probably don't know I've got twin daughters, and they are now ten years old.
	I've raised them by myself since they were three years of age, so we have a very close bond.
	Actually quite fascinating, they're completely opposite from each other.
	One is tall and skinny and brunette and the other is short and plump and blonde.
	Really?
	Yeah, which I've always thought has been very ironic considering I'm researching opposites of language.
	I have two twin daughters who are also opposite.
	I've always been fascinated by the connection there.
	And actually they're on the front page of my website too.
	Maybe you have a reverse gene.
	Well, my whole family for the last three generations lived and was raised in a town called Glenelg,
	which is spelled G-L-E-N-E-L-G, exactly the same forward as it is backwards, which is
	fascinating too.
	It's figures.
	And my speech stutter, reversals occur primarily in stutters and pauses of language.
	So yeah, I have a very strong belief that I was born for this.
	It's in my genes, it's in my heritage, it's in everything about me.
	Alright, at the time you did these reversals though, you're... and this will send chills down your spine, folks.
	These were, how old, three and four months?
	Yeah, well the first one I'm about to play is at seven months.
	That's the one I've got queued up.
	Seven months.
	You know this one.
	Everyone knows this one.
	This is me chasing my daughter around the room with a tape player.
	She suddenly sees a tight plier and reaches out for it.
	Baby, baby, babble.
	Absolutely.
	And backwards, what's that?
	And again.
	Very, very clear one.
	Oh, so clear with that ethereal little wavy sound.
	Seems to come from the infants.
	I love that one.
	This is another favorite one of mine that I always play.
	She's in the bathtub and this is close to 12 months of age.
	She's in the bathtub trying to pick up a cup and she can't pick it up and she reaches out to me for help.
	And backwards it's David, help me.
	David, help me.
	Thank you.
	I mean... Now, I still hear in that one, David, pause, help me, David.
	Okay, let's run it again.
	I can hear a very...
	What?
	Do it again.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
	Yeah, just in the background at the end. Sure.
	I mean, I wouldn't document that.
	I have fairly strict research protocols, and they must meet certain linguistic standards for me to even... to be documented, let alone played on the air.
	But yeah, sure, I can hear that.
	All right.
	There's one more.
	One more.
	Okay, this is one that one of my students found fairly recently, and I love this one.
	This has come to my regular, this is on my regular playlist now.
	This is a kid with a dirty diaper and Dad's bringing him the diaper.
	Dad's in, I've got a diaper for you.
	A diaper?
	Yeah.
	And when the kid wears a diaper, he says, help me out.
	Help me out.
	Help me out.
	Oh, that's great, David.
	Yeah, let's run that one forwards and backwards.
	It's just a classic, classic example.
	It is.
	Children are great.
	So there you go folks.
	Did you hear that now?
	Again, it's an infant again.
	Not even the same set and setting, a different infant, the same ethereal kind of ghost-like sound behind it.
	Yeah, they're all, you know, they all have that same one.
	If you have any more children, let's get it in now.
	We've got about a minute or so.
	Okay, this is an Australian example.
	It's two kids playing and one child notices an inoculation mark on the other kid's arm and says, do you have an injection?
	You have an injection.
	But what's it do?
	It might be better.
	Backwards, she says, I hated them.
	I hated them.
	I hated them.
	And that's a very clear example, you know, and just a natural reaction for a young child to have.
	I don't like these injections.
	Please don't give them to me.
	Of course, David, I've got to ask why this sort of You know, you can take two tapes and you can phase them together and you can get a sound that is very much proximate to that.
	What do you think we've got going on here?
	Well, I have a theory only.
	Okay, it's only a theory, but see, I don't believe it's just one voice speaking.
	I believe it's many voices speaking.
	Part of my deepest theories of reverse speech is that consciousness is comprised of hundreds or thousands of different Different parts, and these different parts are all speaking in reverse.
	What?
	And you've got three or four at once.
	But, but different with it, okay, we'll have to pick this up after the top of the hour.
	We're coming to the top of the hour, radio gives us the luxury of lots of time.
	So we'll get to it all.
	I had Colonel Corso and NASA, and from what I've told about NASA, Well, all I can say is buckle in.
	I think I might want to hear a couple more kits.
	Those things are good, aren't they?
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	to take my way. I said no one could take your place. And if you get hurt, if you get hurt, by the little things like
	pain, I can set my back onto your bed and you can see. Oh and it's alright, and it's coming, oh, we gotta get right
	back to where we gotta go. It's Love is good.
	Love can be strong.
	We gotta get right back to where we started from.
	Minute to Zoom.
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	Dave John Oates is here.
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	And I think I'm not yet done with the infants.
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	I think now, as we look back, we can probably say with pretty good certainty that some people in government might have been aware of what was going on and they turned their cheeks.
	The other way.
	Just to let it happen.
	I also believe that some bigger groups got involved with Al-Qaeda to do what they did on that horrible day.
	This wasn't just a small group of people who came in and did their thing.
	There was a much bigger picture there.
	And if you see the events that have unfolded since this tragedy occurred, how we've lost rights, how we used it to go into Afghanistan and Iraq, and how it has really not stopped.
	Because it's going to continue.
	We're going to have more and more episodes and more and more involvement in other countries.
	And just mark my word, this planet is going through an incredible change.
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	Art Bell, Somewhere in Time Alright, here we go again into the world of reverse
	features.
	And by the way, I want to welcome a powerhouse, K-A-L-L, in Salt Lake City.
	So, hey folks in Salt Lake City, guess what?
	You can hear us now.
	KALL is 910 on the dial, 5000 non-directional watts on 910, so indeed you will hear us well,
	and very, very pleased to be on the air at KALL in Salt Lake City.
	So there you are.
	David, John Oates is my guest.
	Reverse speech is the topic, and here he is once again.
	David, welcome back.
	Thank you, Alex.
	And when we left off, you were saying something that I don't quite understand.
	We were talking about this weird little ethereal sound that comes along with reversals of children, and you said you thought it was Many voices.
	Yeah, well that gets into my whole metaphoric theory of the unconscious mind.
	One of the great things about reverse speech is that it accesses the totality of consciousness.
	And for centuries that's been a very dark, unknown area.
	We've really had no way to go down and probe it.
	And it's probably where the majority of my research is, is in exploring consciousness and the metaphoric structures of It's a topic I haven't really covered much on the air, and what I am discovering is that the human psyche or consciousness is not one being or personality as we consider, but it's a multitude of many different parts all speaking at once or all acting simultaneously.
	You take the classic example, you want to go and eat an ice cream but you're on a diet
	and so part of you says go and have that ice cream and the other part says no don't do
	that, you will put on weight and in reverse we actually hear these two different voices
	speaking.
	And sometimes this gets down to the deeper aspects of reverse speech and sometimes you
	will actually hear them dialoguing with each other in different tones.
	You'll hear a different tonal pitch from one part and Another tonal pitch from the other.
	And when you listen to these reversals, they have this echoey, multiple layered sound to them.
	And part of my theory is that the reason for this etheric sound is because it's many parts speaking all at the same time.
	It's also a child saying something intelligible in reverse before this child has learned to speak forward.
	That is correct.
	I maintain that language begins backwards before it does forward.
	And see, that's not out of keeping with many accepted theories of child psychology.
	No, that's right.
	Jean Piaget theorized a lot of the cause of the function of the children begin backwards before it does forward.
	Well, certainly our subconscious mind is operating before our conscious mind has learned the tools it needs to make vocal speech.
	Of that, there is no doubt.
	Yes.
	And that is why reverse speech begins before forward speech.
	All right, so do you have any more children or any more cool infants?
	Well, yeah, look, I've got a couple I want to play.
	Let's just play this one first.
	And that's just a mom and child chatting away.
	And backwards, the child says, our mommy's sweet.
	I have no idea.
	Classic reversal.
	Let's just do it one more time.
	There we go.
	Mommies are mommies.
	Sweet.
	There's no question about that.
	None whatsoever.
	Let me do another one.
	This is getting on a little bit.
	This is actually at six years of age, but it's such an astoundingly clear reversal.
	I want to play it and I want to see if you can pick this one out without me telling you.
	All right.
	And this is my daughter when she was six and she had run away I was following you and watching you.
	I was hiding behind the car watching what you were doing.
	Were you?
	Yes.
	I never knew that.
	No, because I was being very sneaky.
	Okay, so, you know... You can tell by her tone of voice.
	Forward, she's up to something.
	I never knew that.
	I'm going to run that section backwards twice.
	Instead, you can pick up at least one or two words.
	And do it again.
	What do you hear there?
	I'm not sure.
	Do it again.
	Daddy never knew.
	What do you hear there?
	I'm not sure.
	Okay, let me, well it says, Daddy never knew.
	Daddy never knew.
	Now I hear it.
	Oh, now it's clear as a bell.
	David, all right, so we've got to talk about this.
	Yes.
	People will frequently say, unless David tells us what it is, we won't hear it.
	Yes.
	And to some degree, they're correct.
	And to some degree, they are correct.
	Absolutely.
	Now, suppose You were to try to tell me... Let's try an experiment.
	Let's take the same reverse clip.
	Yes.
	Only this time, tell me it says something else.
	We're doing the same clip.
	Lie to me.
	Okay.
	I ran away.
	Okay, see, I don't hear that.
	No way do I hear that.
	There's no way you can hear that.
	You know, I understand the skepticism, but the fact is, if it's not there, you will not hear it.
	I can suggest it until I'm blue in the face.
	Yeah, okay, that's the way I want to prove it.
	And let me take a second to tell the audience again, I've spent a year of my life as a police dispatcher in Monterey County.
	As a matter of fact, I've heard from a lot of my old colleagues since I mentioned that.
	For weeks and weeks and weeks, they don't let you anywhere near real dispatching because lives are at stake.
	And they make you sit there with headphones and listen to the traffic.
	I mean, you've got stuff coming at you left and right, fast and furious, particularly in an emergency.
	And frankly, the newbie, the new person, can no more hear what's going on than the man on the moon.
	They sit there with their mouths hung open and have You know, the saying to themselves, I'll never be able to do this.
	Well, the fact of the matter is, after you've done it and listened to it, eight hours a day, grindingly, five days a week, trust me, in about two or three weeks, you begin to hear it all.
	Your mind, your brain, begins to become adjusted.
	So, that's what the brain does, and I think we need to even go a little further with what we're doing right now.
	Let's do it one more time.
	Take the same one that I could not, honestly, properly hear.
	I couldn't tell you what was being said until you told me.
	But if you tell me something else, or you lie to me, it then doesn't come out.
	Only when you tell me what really is being said, do I hear it.
	Right.
	Try it again.
	Try it again.
	Take the same one.
	Okay.
	The same one.
	Okay.
	And what about, what about, mummy hasn't flown?
	Mummy never...
	Mummy never... no...
	I mean you just can't hear it.
	Let me pull up a different one this time, okay?
	Not one that you've already been clued up to.
	I just picked this one at random.
	I honestly did.
	I know what this is.
	This is me and a friend of mine chatting away.
	Okay, I'm going to run it forward.
	I was hoping to be fair, but I actually, well, I have it there. I'll give it to you.
	Okay, now this reversal says, I don't want to see you.
	No.
	Do you hear that?
	No.
	No.
	Do you hear that?
	No.
	Okay, what about, pleased to be your friend?
	Yes.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Of course.
	Yeah, I hear that clearly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, I've done experiments like this over and over and over again.
	You just, if it's not there, you cannot hear it.
	But this is the first time we have ever done this for the audience.
	Oh, and I'm very glad we're doing it, quite frankly, because I get so many emails about it, you know, and I do experiments like this in class all the time.
	And it's like learning anything new.
	Once you get used to the rhythm and the sound and the tonality, you begin to hear it.
	And I see a learning curve with all new students I train.
	For the first three months, they're lost.
	I mean, well, most likely lost.
	It's like, oh, is that there?
	Is that there?
	I don't know.
	But after three or four months, as the learning curve progresses, they gradually begin to hear them.
	And without being prompted, And in class, we run tapes back live, and after about six months or so, many of the students will hear the same reversal at the same time.
	I would like to ask you a question.
	You teach.
	You have students.
	You have classes.
	You have sessions.
	When your students graduate, David, what use do most of them generally go and make of this newly acquired skill?
	Okay, well I've got two analysts in San Diego now who have set themselves up in full-time practice in therapy, which is the majority of my work.
	They're doing exceptionally well.
	I've got another one of my students who's actually gone over to Germany to start reverse speech over there and she's lecturing and doing seminars and workshops doing amazingly well.
	I've got one of my... So, in other words, let me stop you.
	Most of this is done and used for therapy, for bringing things out that help people deal with their own problems, yes?
	That is correct.
	Well, its use in therapy is just monumental.
	I mean, in one half an hour session, You can get right to the source and cause of any person's problem, also cases.
	You really can as a diagnostic tool alone without getting into the chain side, but diagnostically it is stunningly accurate, probably too accurate for some people.
	Alright, have you had, this is a natural question, psychiatrists, people who do therapy of varying kinds?
	Yes, I do.
	I have a close association with several psychiatrists.
	One I think off the top of my head is Dr. Dennis Gersten here in San Diego.
	He's an extremely well-renowned psychiatrist.
	He has his own radio program.
	He's got a couple of books out.
	We do a lot of work together.
	He will send me his clients.
	He will tape his sessions.
	and send me the tape, we do contract tape work and then I'll prepare a session transcript and send it back to him.
	Okay, then does he, out of curiosity, actually present to his clients the reversals or does he use those reversals in
	us diagnosing and treating the patient?
	Well he's unsure what to do right now.
	He did present Reversal to some clients initially and found it almost too overwhelming for them.
	I maintain he just needs to understand a little bit how to present it.
	We have a slight difference of opinion over that.
	But I believe what he's doing now is using the information privately for greater insight into his clients.
	Although, we were just on the phone today, he was telling me about a client of his who was in the office and he recorded the client live on the spot and played back the reversal on the spot and it gave the client tremendous insight as to what his actual issue was.
	Fascinating.
	But he's of the opinion after working with this that the knowledge it gives is really outside of what he has learnt and what most psychology I'm sure he's probably listening to the program tonight.
	So he's a little bit at war with himself about it?
	Well, not at war over the reality of reverse speech, but at war over how to present it to his clients and how specifically to use it.
	I maintain he needs to take training and learn the techniques that I have learned, and I think he's heading in that direction now.
	I'm sure he will correct me tomorrow when we're off the air.
	Well, what I would like to see is C-SPAN 3.
	Uh, with David Oates presiding.
	And you would simply be constantly recording our representatives in the House and the Senate, and reversing them on C-SPAN 3.
	And I bet you'd get better ratings.
	Well, I'm just starting to do just that, surprisingly enough, as you may mention it.
	I've spent the last week decking out my office here.
	I've got one, two, three TVs and VCRs that I'm downloading.
	I've got them all running at once.
	And that's the direction I'm going to move into.
	Oh, they're going to burn you at the stake, David.
	Oh, well, we will see.
	Do you have... Before we get into Colonel Corso, which we will after the bottom of the hour because everybody's dying for that.
	Yeah.
	Do you have any more... Oh, I know what I want.
	My favorite political one, if you've got it, when George Bush was leaving office, Oh, yeah, I love that one.
	So do I. And then there's one other Clinton one I liked about kissing.
	OK, we can do both of those.
	OK, here's George Bush.
	This is actually the inauguration of Bill Clinton.
	And so the commentator is just saying goodbye to George Bush.
	Here we go.
	Today our nation bids a gracious goodbye to an outgoing administration and warmly welcomes
	in a new one as William Jefferson Clinton takes office as the 42nd President of the
	United States.
	And today we welcome in a new one as William Jefferson Clinton takes office as the 42nd
	Okay, very diplomatic.
	The reversal occurs in this forward section.
	A gracious goodbye to an outgoing administration.
	And backwards he says, you're fired!
	Just a classic example and I've actually got a little audio trick on there.
	So I'm going to run it forwards again and then play it backwards and then I've got the reverse repeating over and over again.
	in for a good day and i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
	uh... uh... just classic the all that is that is by the way with the good of the
	country did with president bush They fired him, there's no question.
	Oh yeah, it wasn't so much that Bill Clinton won office, it was the fact that George was fired.
	I mean, I think anyone would, any political accommodator, Would verify that.
	And now my favorite Clinton.
	This has a very, talk about contextual relationship.
	This one has a very interesting contextual relationship.
	He's being asked a question about how does he avoid being unduly influenced.
	President, the Senator mentioned trial lawyers and campaign, that means campaign financing.
	How do you personally avoid being unduly influenced by people who give you money or give you services in your campaigns?
	Well I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible.
	She's a fun girl to kiss.
	this is a fun delicate this is a fun delicate
	it could be fine actually, but I think fun this is a fun delicate
	that's very clear that's very clear
	now, let's try it one last time at regular reverse speed
	lie to me lie to you, okay
	I don't take any money from anyone this is a fun delicate
	this is a fun delicate this is a fun delicate
	this is a fun delicate I mean, you know, you tell me that's not there
	I mean, you know, I mean and what you've got to do is you've got to follow this
	through and listen for the vowels listen for the consonants
	count out the syllables check it all out
	does it linguistically meet the requirements that that phrase should sound
	and if it does, document it Yes, and one more thing, David, hang tight.
	Any of you can try this at home.
	In other words, there's no magic here.
	You can do this with a computer.
	You can do it with a tape recorder.
	Try it yourself.
	And I've had hundreds of faxes from people who said, well, I didn't believe it.
	When I began to try it myself, my ear suddenly came alive, and it's as real as real can be.
	That's been the majority of the audience that's responded.
	More reverse speech, Colonel Corso, coming up.
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	Well, finally, somebody with a little compassion.
	Art, on behalf of my Panasonic fax machine, I extend its deepest sympathy on your recent loss.
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	What is going on to necessitate this so quickly?
	There seems to be a deadline in their brains and they need to get this done.
	They know their whole new world order is inches from going up in flames.
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	ninety seven the man who runs the uh...
	the arizona chapter actually the phoenix chapter of the art bell club very young
	therefore not And a wonderful job he does down there, too.
	Apparently, has had comments on reverse speech, because I just got this fax over my new but yet unloved machine.
	It says, Hey Art, last week on the Dr. Science Show, Barry Young explained that reverse speech is just the mind trying to make order out of chaos, in essence.
	He said it's all just the imagination.
	Please ask David how often supposed people of science, that's in quotes, have this denial reaction.
	David?
	Yes, sir.
	Well, I'd say that's more often than not, unfortunately.
	Many people will immediately dismiss it, and the sad part about all of that is that I've never come across anyone who has dismissed it yet who has not done some serious looking at it and all that one has to do
	is to run a tape in reverse and within I guarantee within 30 minutes you will
	find something that will make you radically change your mind and I can think of
	a classic example about this we get phone calls to our office all the time
	people who find reversals and one man said he went over his friend's house
	and a friend had the I want to reverse Dr. Young.
	And it says, P.S.
	and he picked up the tape player and said this is a load of rubbish what is this all all about a word to that effect
	and he played it back and the very first thing he heard was I'm so cynical. And he said I wasn't cynical after that.
	Alright somebody send me tapes I want to reverse Dr. Young and it says PS here, PSR this is from Rob in Phoenix
	He says, P.S., today on the Dr. Seinfeld Show, the face on Mars was revealed to be your face.
	Well, that explains it!
	Of course it does!
	Who else would it be but Art Bell?
	And you know, I'd like to just quickly state I had the pleasure of speaking at the Art Bell Chat Club in Los Angeles the other Friday night.
	Oh, so I heard.
	Yes, I really got some good faxes on that.
	Oh, really?
	Well, I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
	I had just a marvelous time and I would like to thank all of those who went and those who put the event on.
	It was just great.
	I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
	All right.
	Now, let me set this up.
	Colonel Corso appeared on my program, actually twice, once with Linda Moulton Howe and the co-author of the book, The Day After Roswell.
	Colonel Corso is a man who says, and I think very believably, That he was in a very high position, he was in a procurement position, an R&D position, and he had Roswell artifacts.
	This begins to get very serious.
	In other words, he had artifacts from the crash of a saucer at Roswell.
	He took these artifacts, scientific artifacts, and infused them into industry in America, which Resulted in many things we now have and like, probably not my fax machine, but fiber optics, and I guess night vision goggles, and many, many more current technological advances that we enjoy today that came from this crash.
	Things that were back-engineered.
	And he had the power.
	He was in the right place.
	He was up there in the White House.
	I mean, it's an amazing, amazing story this man tells.
	And it's hard to disbelieve.
	Now, he's in his 80s.
	I believe he's 82 years old, something like that, Colonel Corso.
	And so that's the background of who we are about to get reversals on.
	It was a staggeringly interesting program.
	And of course, I immediately got zillions of requests for David Oates.
	To do reversals on Colonel Corso, and that is what comes now.
	And that is what I have indeed done.
	I've done reversals on all of his appearance on Dreamland, and most of his appearance on the second time that he was on.
	Essentially, let me give you my analysis up front, and I'll give you the overview.
	We'll look at the details.
	This man is telling the absolute and complete truth.
	He has no hidden agenda behind his statements.
	There's no guile.
	There's no unseen motives.
	What you see is what you get.
	An extremely congruent man who very matter-of-factly has communicated probably what I consider
	to be some of the most important, significant information of this century.
	It's just incredible stuff.
	I would have bet my hot tub on that.
	Yeah, I... I mean, just listening to him forward, David, uh, everybody, I think, and that was what was so shocking about it.
	You have the sense that here's a simple man telling simply the truth.
	And that's exactly what his reversals are.
	Very simple, very direct, very much to the point.
	So, let us begin.
	And, uh, with one of the very first ones we found.
	Uh, again, I had an instruction book where I made the notes.
	My report that I gave to the General next morning.
	Okay, he's talking, you know, speaks for itself, and then backwards he says, sworn the General.
	Sworn the General.
	Uh-huh.
	Sworn the General.
	And once more?
	Sworn the General.
	Sworn the General.
	And that refers to the oath he made to the General, I think, that, you know, it's obviously the very first thing on his mind as he begins his program.
	As a matter of fact, it's interesting you should mention that, because he said, He did have an oath, and the only thing that released him to write the book was the death of the General.
	Exactly correct.
	And that was an oath he had taken.
	So, uh, sworn the General, that sure does make sense.
	Yeah, the very first thing on his mind, one of the very first reversals that came out.
	Makes complete sense.
	Yep.
	Okay, now he's, uh, talking about one of the, um, he saw an alien body in a crate in, uh, in an airfield.
	That's right.
	And he's describing it now.
	How big would you say this creature was?
	Oh, it wasn't even five feet tall.
	In fact, I thought it was a small child when I first saw it.
	And backwards he says, it was so real.
	It was so real.
	It was so real It's changed my entire outlook, quite frankly.
	I find myself unwittingly in an area I would not have chosen to be in, quite frankly.
	Reverse speech is bizarre enough as it is without bringing the UFO information in it as well.
	But causing you to begin to believe, David?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And it's more than just believing.
	It's far more than that.
	This has got to be the most significant information of this century.
	I agree.
	It really is.
	And I have two emotions running at once.
	One is just incredible fascination and intrigue.
	And the other is just deep anger at the government and the authorities who are not only covering this up but blatantly lying to us and treating
	these creatures with just contempt, quite frankly, based on the reversals I played on your
	program.
	Alright, more Corso.
	Okay, and this next one we're going to, oh he's just talking about the aliens again,
	just a little bit delay in getting this one up on file.
	Oh, that's alright.
	Okay, so here we come, he's talking about the aliens still on the truck.
	There were five trucks total.
	And he said that it came from some airfield in Fort Riley, they said.
	And they're hidden like that, it's an Air Force base.
	And that was all it said.
	Now this reversal was extremely interesting, because it connects back to a reversal I found on Victor.
	And you may remember the analysis I did on that.
	Of course.
	Yeah, this reversal said, see, it's your friends.
	And it's exactly the same, almost identical to a reversal I found on Victor's.
	They are our friends.
	Yeah, it's all fine.
	Yeah, it's all fine.
	Hear that one OK?
	Yeah, it's all fine.
	Oh, very, very OK, yes.
	Yeah, and this is a theme.
	I've done, you know, half a dozen of these analyses now, and I'm beginning to notice threads now, connecting all these together, common themes and common information being verified and confirmed.
	This next one is also a common theme.
	And this was in a veterinary office.
	Well, we have veterinaries, and that's a logical place to keep some of this.
	Sure.
	And this reversal says, say they must speak.
	It's helpful.
	And I think it's a slightly frustration that he has, because they don't speak.
	And that's something that Victor commented on as well, was that the aliens don't speak.
	And I think this is him wanting them to speak, because it would be helpful.
	Say they must speak.
	It's helpful.
	Say they must speak.
	It's helpful.
	OK?
	Yep.
	OK.
	And this next one is extremely straightforward.
	I mean, what you see with Colonel Corso is essentially exactly what you get.
	He's talking about the intelligence reports, etc.
	Because the intelligence process is collect, evaluate, cooperate, and then come forward
	with your report.
	And Russell says, yeah, we have it.
	Yeah, we have it.
	Yeah, we are, Rick.
	Yes, it does.
	And a lot of his reversals are very simple.
	There's really no need for an explanation.
	This one, this is an amusing one.
	This one here had me laughing.
	He was talking about his relationship with General Trudeau.
	He didn't tell me what was happening.
	Later on, I used to joke a lot when he'd come into my office.
	Sure.
	where's corso's junk file or his notepad because i'm not exactly where my desk may look like i
	picked him out of a wastebasket or something and he's just reminiscing and sure and back what he
	says i set him off once in a while i'll set him off once in a while oh man i'll set him off once
	in a while oh that's uh very clear at just the regular speed i said oh yeah
	Very clear reversal.
	A very casual, matter-of-fact conversation.
	You know, he's just reminiscing and once in a while I set this guy off.
	And his reversals are very similar to his forward dialogue.
	Simple, direct.
	And that's another thing in my mind that validates and verifies reverse speech.
	The tone of the reversal differs from person to person to person.
	Now, this is an 82-year-old man, so we have spanned from infants to an 82-year-old man.
	What are we likely to find in a man of Colonel Corso's age?
	Generally found the clarity to be down just a touch.
	I found it to be not quite as clear as the kids' reversals.
	I also noticed that as the interview went on, the levels of reversals dropped off.
	He was getting tired.
	He was getting tired.
	And you also had a couple of them come out of left field.
	It was like, huh?
	What does that mean?
	It seemed to have no Relationship or context of the forward dialogue, just maybe a half a dozen of them, and you can track it.
	His mind's drifting.
	He's going off into some other place.
	So that's what I noticed.
	Not at the beginning of the interviews, but towards the end, they would drop off, particularly in clarity, and seem to lose their contextual relationship.
	That's what I noticed.
	So let's look at another one here.
	He's just talking about the General again, I think.
	The projects that went out were normal research and development contracts.
	Makes sense, yes.
	They weren't sub-ROSA or anything like that.
	Right.
	Or any say, we can't pay you enough.
	We put them out in that sense.
	And Rebecca says, you feel a Roswell boss.
	And I think he's talking about Trudeau, who's probably in charge of all the artifacts collected from Roswell, I would imagine.
	You know Roswell Bus?
	You know Roswell Bus?
	I think that's fairly clear.
	Boy is it ever.
	And you know, there you have backwards a name.
	Roswell.
	And you might remember we had the reversal on the Mars NASA one,
	the Cydonia.
	And if you may remember that one.
	Well, as a precursor to the latest NASA stuff, we will roll over a little of the older NASA stuff.
	Sure.
	Yeah, we'll pull some of them out.
	Which is astounding.
	And I guess the new NASA stuff is every bit as astounding.
	Just as astounding.
	I don't have as many of them.
	I've only probably got about 20 reversals I can play on air.
	I just didn't have the time to, you know, the press conference was just this week and I haven't had time to devote all my I didn't give the analysis I wanted, but just what I found just in the short time I had to look at it is astounding.
	I've got 27 reversals on there.
	But David, here we have a man, an honorable veteran, a colonel, retired, who is making claims that he had Roswell crash debris, that over years he infused all of this into American industry.
	This is such a non-trivial claim.
	That your confirmation in these reversals is very important.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	This man is telling the truth.
	I would say he's probably one of the most significant people in America right now.
	We need to get all of his thoughts on tape.
	I don't know whether he's listening or whether anyone listening knows him, but please get Everything that he's got to say, down on tape, record it all.
	He is telling a completely true tale.
	And I state that with all certainty.
	I would put my reputation on the line with that statement.
	We've got about a minute.
	Okay, we'll do one very quickly.
	He's talking about Project Rainbow and a man named John Von Neumann.
	Oh, I just lost it.
	Let me... Okay, here it is.
	Oh, I had in there.
	It was labeled Project Rainbow.
	Rainbow.
	Project Rainbow was John von Neumann's project.
	And the back of it, he says, Newman knows it all.
	Newman knows it all.
	Newman knows it all.
	Very clear.
	You know, David, I'm sorry.
	I get so astounded that I sometimes walk on the second version because I'm sitting here going, oh my God, I can't stop myself.
	Please give it Uh, give us that again, forward and reverse.
	And they think it's so clear.
	I know, I know.
	Forward and reverse.
	Okay, let's do it forward.
	Okay, quick, here we go.
	It was labeled Project Rainbow.
	Rainbow.
	Project Rainbow was John von Neumann's project.
	And Neumann knows it all.
	Neumann knows it all.
	I mean, you tell me that's not there.
	No, that is there.
	Yeah, there's nothing there.
	And once more, play that in reverse at regular speed and lie to me.
	Okay, uh, uh, Trudeau had a cup of coffee.
	I can't do it, I'm sorry.
	Okay, let me get to something simple.
	Newman... Newman killed it all.
	Newman never was.
	Newman never was.
	I mean, you can't hear it.
	Uh, there you go, folks.
	Um, alright.
	Thank you very much, David.
	Relax.
	Uh, you've done a wonderful job.
	We will continue with Colonel Corso.
	Oh, my!
	Uh, that was quite congruous.
	And when he tries to lie to you, you don't hear what he tells you to hear, do you?
	But when he tells you what's really there, you hear it, don't you?
	Any comments?
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	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight, featuring a replay of Coaster Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	We've got David John Oates.
	Mr. Reverse Speech Willis, the founding father of Reverse Speech.
	And what are we doing right now?
	We're doing reversals on Colonel Philip J. Corso.
	And what are we getting?
	Nothing but the absolute truth.
	Congruent all the way down the line.
	They are absolutely remarkable.
	As you heard, when he was here live, he sounded like he was telling the truth.
	Well, guess what?
	He was.
	Now, what does that mean?
	Well, considering the content of what he said, I would say it means quite a bit, wouldn't you?
	You bet.
	Anyway, good morning.
	There is a new UFO picture on the website for you to look at.
	I don't, you know, I don't send up just any UFO photos.
	I send up the really good ones, and generally I send up ones that I have scanned myself.
	In other words, what I'm telling you is I have the original photograph.
	This one appeared over Ringgold, Georgia, wherever that is, and Some might suggest it would look like a kite, and that would be the only possible explanation.
	But I believe, with regard to the distance, it obviously is from the photographer.
	And there is plenty of reference foliage to establish that this object is much too big to be a kite.
	And I don't think it is easily explained.
	One other thing about this object, there is substance to the forefront of it.
	If you look carefully.
	Now, some of you, no doubt, will go down to the pixel level and try to figure this out.
	But it's a damn good picture, and it's up on the website right now.
	A sad event in my life is shadowing everything that's happening this morning.
	And that, of course, is the death of my favorite fax machine in all the world, my Hewlett Packard 950.
	Resting its dead carcass on my rug in the living room at the moment.
	It was so sad, so sad.
	And so many of you now have sense.
	Well, for example, Art, your loyal listeners feel deeply for you at this time of need.
	I think, however, the healing process should begin with your telling us about the new machine.
	I can't do that yet.
	Take it slowly, he says, Dan in New Orleans.
	Don't rush into it.
	Just take a deep breath and let it go.
	Come on, Art.
	It's important to take this first step.
	We're all behind you.
	Good luck, Dan, in New Orleans.
	Then I have an official certificate.
	I'll hold this one up when I get a chance.
	A Certificate of Non-Operation.
	This is to certify that on the 1st of August, in the year 1997, the HP Fax Machine, who owned the human known as Art Bell, passed away and went to electronic appliance heaven.
	It is signed by Janet Reno and Billy Boy.
	and there is an official seal here courtesy of pastor bradley
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	and then let's see a new uh... new facts also from canadian colorado says
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	For all those station PDs and GMs who vote for me, I promise... I promise... I promise a special station promo for you all.
	And I'll have to review what else I can do as time goes on.
	Anyway, Dave, it'll be back in a moment, and we will continue with Colonel Corso.
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	Now we take you back to the night of August 1st, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Well, alright, back now to David John Oates.
	And again, the reversals you're going to hear now are those of Colonel Philip J. Corso, an 82-year-old man who was in the White House, actually had a file cabinet full of crashed debris from Roswell, which he infused into the American industrial machine.
	Producing a lot of what we use today, a lot of the current technology we use today.
	That is, in a nutshell, his story.
	He sounded like he was telling the truth when he was on my program.
	And according to what we have discovered thus far with David Oates, the truth is exactly what we got, right?
	That is correct.
	Very concurrent reversals with direct relationship to the forward dialogue most most of them basically confirming his tale.
	All these reversals are up on my website by the way.
	You can go to the site at www.reversespeech.com to listen to these yourself.
	Also, if you want to get in contact with me, you can call the office at 1-800-669-5789.
	That's 800-669-5789.
	All right, I want to even make you promo some more because I know that there is this yak-backed
	little toy that they've got for sale, but it's not in the same league with the more
	professional model that you've got that you sell.
	So you sell a special machine that has been modified to do reverse speech, right?
	That is correct, and actually it's very important to make that distinction.
	We get a lot of phone calls to the office of people thinking that we're finding this on the computer.
	And, uh, but we actually, uh, I actually find them on modified Iowa reversing machines, which, which we sell.
	We have two models available now.
	Both of them record in perfect stereo.
	Just, uh, brilliant recordings and, uh, superb audio.
	And, um, and they play forwards and backwards with variable speeds.
	And, uh, it's important to note that I find the reversals on these machines.
	And then I'd transfer it to the computer, and we have two models of them available.
	They start at $165.
	Some people think the price is up a little bit on that, but I need to state that these are the top-of-the-line Iowa machines.
	Iowa.
	I know the name Iowa.
	It's top-of-the-line, right?
	Yeah, they are all individually modified.
	We cover the warranty.
	So, you know, they're just great, great machines.
	We've got several thousand of them.
	Out there circulating now, and people are having a whole bunch of fun with them.
	I've had people contact the office and say it's the best money they've spent in a long, long time.
	We also have correspondence courses available if you actually want to learn this and become certified and use it as a career.
	And quite frankly, we need people out there doing it.
	I'm turning back work.
	I'm getting contract tapes in, just many, many requests.
	We can't handle the load that we've got now.
	I've just put on three new staff members just this week, or actually last week, just to handle the load that we're getting.
	We are growing very, very fast.
	There's intense interest out there.
	I would think in your employment application you should ask people about their firearms capability, their firefighting capability, their martial arts capability.
	Oh, I was very tempted to ask that when I interviewed people this time, believe me.
	And if anyone out there is a former security guard and wants to come and work for me, I would seriously consider the application at this stage.
	I mean, people are beginning to catch on.
	This guy is not crazy.
	This stuff is real.
	It will take many years to be accepted.
	I'm aware of that.
	But as it becomes more and more accepted, the implications are just monumental.
	Monumental.
	I mean, what is going on?
	I mean, you've got so many people on your program presenting so many different theories.
	Some of them are just outstanding.
	And are they real or not?
	Well, let us continue with what we have left of Colonel Corso.
	Okay, alright.
	Now, this next reversal is very significant, considering the fact that Colonel Corso claims that a lot of the things that he found That's right.
	Well, at certain stages we did.
	At certain stages.
	But it had to progress.
	society now. And in this one he's talking about, he's just talking about what he's generally
	doing, he talks about integrated circuits right at the very end.
	He never actually transferred materials, you transferred ideas.
	Well, in certain stages we did. Well you did.
	In certain stages, but it had to progress. For example, General Trudeau told me one day
	getting back to the integrated circuit. Okay, now this reversal is referring to General
	Trudeau, I think.
	It's quite quick.
	It's two reversals right next to each other.
	The first one said, had a big head.
	Referring to Trudeau, I believe.
	But the next one is the significant one.
	It says, produced illegal patents.
	And if the patents are indeed illegal, then what's that doing to our technological base?
	Oh.
	You hear that at the end?
	Yes, sir.
	All right, do it at regular speed for me.
	that man yes sir used to legal patent will be horrible
	all right i do a good breaker speed for me okay and they get
	but it's going to happen produced illegal patents is quite clear
	Extremely clear.
	And you just consider the implications of that.
	Is the patent on the integrated is on the IC chip illegal?
	What about fiber optics?
	Well, yes, in the strictest sense.
	If what the colonel says is true, then the people who invented that did not do so clearly and alone from their own little brains.
	Exactly.
	And that would, I think, explain the The claim of illegality.
	Exactly correct.
	I'd like to see a lawsuit challenging this.
	And have David Oates in court with his reverse speech to prove it, huh?
	Well, I don't think we'll wreak the court for a while, but anyway.
	This next one is a little bit of a mystery.
	Someone may know, this actually refers to a name.
	I'm not too sure what it means, but let's play it anyway.
	I have some intuition not to fund this and start, because we really want more information to exploit this and develop it.
	Okay, and the reversal simply says, Dr. Gratzen said not for fun.
	I'd like to know who Dr. Gratzen is, and it's talking, you know, some advisor I think they probably had.
	Dr. Gratzen said not for fun.
	Dr. Gratzen said not for fun.
	Hearing that one okay?
	Yes, but I don't know what it means.
	I don't know what it, what it, what it means either.
	Doctor, is it Grotson?
	I think it's Grotson.
	I listened to it several times.
	Let me, let me... Do it again, do it again.
	Let me just run it again now.
	That's very... Yeah.
	That's, that's really, really clear, but I wonder what it means.
	Well, I have no idea.
	The next one, the next one I think is probably connected.
	And it's talking about the whole financial aspect of it, so you've got to realize, I mean, these all eventually became a commercial enterprise, you know, so it's not for fun.
	I have no idea today.
	I asked some officers not too long ago that I know, to try to keep it quiet, and I told them what I thought the file could be.
	But it's up to somebody else to track it down, because I can't do it.
	I'm not... He's talking about the filing cabinet.
	And there are two reversals here, and they are played side by side.
	The first one says, He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	And I think this has got to, you know, there's a trend here.
	All these reversals are together.
	Produced illegal patents.
	Dr. Grattan said not for fun.
	He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	Something happened.
	Something of a financial nature, I think, went I have no idea what that means.
	That was clear.
	Give that to me at regular speed, please.
	Okay.
	He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	He hid the profit.
	The boss found it out.
	Yeah.
	I have no idea what that means.
	I haven't read the colonel's book.
	Maybe it's covered in the book.
	Wow.
	But let's just put it out there, and I'm on record.
	Let's see if someone can unravel that mystery.
	Yes.
	Okay, here he's talking about a light-cutting torch that was in the Roswell file.
	I realize that the light-beam-cutting torch... Let me just... I've just got a little bit too... A little bit of Linda Hall there, actually.
	Oh, okay, you want to play... I don't have reverse... No, no, no, I'm just saying... I realize that the light-beam-cutting torch I thought was in the Roswell file was actually a surgical implement.
	Just like a scalpel that was being used by the aliens in medical experiments on our livestock, unquote.
	I would like now to turn the phone back to Colonel Corso to describe his first handling of this device.
	It's Corso now.
	Well, my first handling was, I had another device that was similar to this.
	And of course, like the human doesn't know any better, I figured the batteries are dead.
	And he obviously did have a light cutting to it.
	Reversal simply says, it severs your muscles.
	I heard severs and muscles.
	I wasn't as sure about yours.
	There it is.
	You can hear it there.
	You just count the syllable count out.
	It's a faint reversal.
	It's under the breath.
	I played it.
	Because it's a congruent reversal.
	It's just adding extra information to his tail.
	It severs your muscles.
	Yeah, which is what the light-cutting torch did.
	Well, I start thinking about animal mutilations when you play something like that.
	Right.
	Oh, I can understand why.
	This next reversal is also about the light-cutting torch.
	It's a very amusing one.
	I don't really know what it means.
	That particular thing, I thought it, the battery was dead in that also, and I took it to a lab down at Belvoir.
	Quite an amusing reversal.
	poor sore hand that had to grab it.
	Poor sore hand that had to grab it.
	Poor sore hand that had to grab it.
	There we go.
	I don't know what he's talking about there, but it's a fairly amusing reversal.
	Probably a personal injury.
	I would say so.
	It severs your muscles.
	You know, he did give a story about a scientist who handled it and claimed his eyes popped out of his head.
	That's right.
	That was interesting.
	Oh, remarkable.
	Yeah.
	Okay, here we have another one.
	He's talking about some of the work they did with German scientists.
	Now, I discussed the same problem with some of my German scientists.
	They claim that the Russians did get some German scientists, but not of the caliber that we had.
	And Reversal, I think he's repeating an old story from the past.
	It says, said NASA might damn us.
	Said NASA might damn us.
	Clearly, David, said NASA might damn us.
	And there's another reversal coming up about NASA cutting budget money.
	I don't know when he stopped his work or whatever.
	My opinion of NASA has dropped somewhat over the last few weeks.
	I've been doing all these reversals, quite frankly.
	I don't know what to say there.
	We'll talk about that when we get to the Mars Conference.
	Yes.
	Okay, here's another amusing one.
	He's talking about a friend of his who's fluent in... He starts to say he's fluent in German, then he changes it to he's fluent in Russian.
	On the other hand is Victor Fedai, Librarian of Congress.
	Librarian, he's one of the top men.
	And then he went to the Foreign Relations Committee.
	He's a great friend of mine.
	Fluent in Russian.
	Okay, here's a little Freudian flip there.
	Sure.
	Okay, he simply says backwards, must have shown off.
	I think it's an internal dialogue to himself.
	He's bragging about his friend.
	Must have shown off.
	Sure, okay.
	That's as clear as can be.
	Yeah, so just a straight internal dialogue.
	The next reversal is... All right, David, hold tight.
	We're at the bottom of the hour.
	When we come back, we'll finish with Colonel Corso, and directly ahead, NASA.
	And just wait till you hear that.
	You're listening to Arc Bell, somewhere in time, on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM, from August 1st, 1997.
	1997.
	Mercy!
	Pretty woman, won't you pardon me?
	Pretty woman, I couldn't help but see.
	Pretty woman, that you look lovely as can be.
	Pretty woman, won't you pardon me?
	Pretty woman, I couldn't help but see Pretty woman, that you look lovely
	As can be, are you lonely just like me?
	Pretty woman, I couldn't help but see Pretty woman, that you look lovely
	As can be, are you lonely just like me?
	Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight's program originally aired August 1st, 1997.
	Well, alright.
	Welcome back.
	We're doing reverse beach.
	And in a moment, I've got something coming up that David is probably not prepared for.
	A surprise, David.
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	Now we take you back to the night of August 1st, 1997 on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	I just got a very interesting facts.
	It says reverse speech and psychiatry.
	Dear Art, I I am the psychiatrist whom David was speaking about tonight.
	And yes, it's true.
	David's work in the non-sensational areas as it applies to psychiatry and the entire field of medicine has staggering implications.
	I am very pleased that he began to talk about this today, first on my radio show and now yours.
	His discussion of the therapeutic value of reverse speech on my show, The Open Mind, today was the first time that he ever got into the deeper aspects of his work, and I'm really pleased that he is finally getting into it tonight on your show.
	Believe me, if he wins the Nobel Prize, for which I have personally nominated him, it won't be for his reversals of O.J.
	Simpson, But it could well be for offering the entire field of psychiatry and medicine, something they can continue to work on for the next several hundred years.
	I encourage you to dive deeper in this direction with David, for it will only make the sensational reversals, NASA, Roswell, etc., all seem more staggering.
	I'd love to share with you and your listeners my very positive view on reverse speech and the implications that I, as an MD, And psychiatrists believe it has.
	I believe I'm in a unique position to do so, and I've not yet heard you or David even scratch the surface of what I believe are the most serious and profound implications of reverse speech.
	When you're ready to share those implications with your listeners, please give me a call.
	I'd love to discuss them with you and David.
	Warmest regards, Dennis Gerstin, M.D., author of, by the way, Are You Getting Enlightened or Losing Your Mind?
	Dennis Gerstin, M.D., board certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology, and I picked up the phone and called him, Doctor.
	Hello?
	Are you there, Doctor?
	Oh, I guess I've got to push the right button.
	How about now, Doctor?
	Yes.
	Welcome to the program.
	Thank you very much, Art.
	That's quite an endorsement.
	Well, it's quite an impressive work, this discovery of reverse speech.
	This is quite an amazing technology.
	When did you meet David?
	How long has the association been?
	I have met David about six months ago and discovered that he lives in basically my own backyard.
	And I basically tracked him down.
	Well, I've got David's pot turned down now so he can't say anything.
	You actually have nominated him for the Nobel Prize.
	I have, yes.
	here i call them up immediately and say we we've got a meet
	well i've got david's pot turned down now so we can see if you can
	you actually have nominated him for the nobel prize i have yet
	uh... do you feel doctor there is sufficient uh... evidence that can be
	amassed uh... certainly if david's work is as uh... he suggested is
	and i get a lot of taxes saying it's below me let me sell you a bridge across
	the atlantic or something
	what would you say to those people Well, you know, first of all, David is a true scientist.
	I mean, when I met with him, as scientific as he is on your station, he is so much more scientific, you know, on his own.
	I mean, for example, you sit down with him, you know, with some reversals, and he will It's got to meet these seven criteria.
	So something that you or I might hear that may sound like it's a reversal, you know, David will say it is or it's not.
	It must meet these criteria.
	So, you know, he's been very strict.
	He's done studies with electroencephalograms.
	He has a lot of a lot of data built up over, I believe, about 14 years now.
	So then in your professional opinion, this is very real.
	This is very real.
	I personally have experienced it hundreds of times since I met him.
	Well, the implications for medicine and for society in general, if it is real, are staggering and I would think of the Nobel Prize category.
	So, go right ahead, Doctor.
	When I wrote the Nobel Committee In my letter I stated that reverse speech is going to be a springboard for about four other fields.
	In other words, you're going to have reverse speech developed for crime and the legal system.
	You're going to have reverse speech developed entirely for the field of medicine and physical problems.
	You're going to have another field created for mental problems, psychology and psychiatry.
	you're going to have a fourth field created for childhood and development.
	As a witness, what's going on here with infants speaking in reverse before they're speaking forward? So
	remarkable.
	This is calling for a new definition of child development.
	So out of reverse speech is going to be given birth at least four new fields. Out of that,
	and it's going to take hundreds of years. Hundreds of years.
	Well, I really and truly appreciate your taking the time with a quick phone call during a quick break when you sent
	me this fact to come on the air and say all of this.
	It is of value.
	Let me ask you one more question, and that is, how long do you think it will be, doctor, the lie detector is still legally not accepted as admissible court evidence.
	This is a technology, in a sense, like that.
	How long do you think it will take the mainstream scientists and judicial system, and for that matter, medicine, to begin to embrace this as the real thing?
	Well, for medicine, here's the sad truth.
	Studies have shown that medicine lags 50 years behind the actual science.
	Yes.
	Now, things are not quite that bad.
	We may be down to a mere 40 years.
	So that means, I believe, you're probably looking at the year 2040 before reverse speech is as well known as penicillin is.
	Now the legal system, I don't know.
	I think it's going to have vast implications.
	One rather pressing thing that I think needs to be done, this is not in my field, I think James Earl Ray needs to be recorded before he dies.
	I agree.
	I think that's a critical one.
	But I have been using this in my personal life.
	I've been using it with my patients and just using the simple little yak-back that David has spoken to you about.
	I just used that today and I work in a similar sphere.
	I work in the world of symbols and the world of imagery.
	Sure.
	And what David is pointing out, what he believes is that reverse speech is the blueprint for the unconscious.
	The blueprint for imagery.
	That's why I'm so interested in his work.
	That certainly would make it a prime tool for psychiatry.
	Absolutely.
	So you've been actually applying this to case work you're doing?
	I have been.
	Initially, it actually wasn't David's transcription.
	It was one of his, not sure what to call them, transcriptionists, one of his experts.
	I had not spent enough time finding out what to do with the information.
	I sat down and read it to this lady and basically blew her mind pretty seriously.
	This information must be provided carefully.
	David has worked this out in a very stepwise process, which is about a ten week therapy process.
	Very well thought out process.
	We, of course, on the air concentrate on the clear, simple reversals.
	We tend not to get into the metaphoric side of things.
	Very difficult for the audience to embrace unless they've had a lot more training.
	But I understand that would be the primary, I would suppose, use that you would look toward in therapy.
	Yes, it's absolutely, for me, essential to find out what the quote, broken metaphors are.
	As David says, you have like metaphor pairs like an eagle and a wolf.
	Sure.
	And they need to be working in a healthy way.
	And if one's defective, then it's got to be fixed.
	And that's something David has been amazing at not only picking out those broken metaphors but in finding out a way to repair them.
	But it's also useful just for the clear things, not just deep metaphors.
	I mean, David mentioned that I was working with a fellow today who was actually a businessman who was making a multi-million dollar decision that had to be made within six days.
	And he was very close to making the decision about 95% but 5% left over.
	Yes.
	And at the end of the session I got out my little yak back and told him about reverse speech and said, say something.
	And he spoke into it and he said, I just want to make this decision with peace of mind.
	And then I played it backwards and my ears are getting tuned to reversals.
	Yes.
	And I quickly heard the reversal was, resist this if you must know.
	and you must know exactly.
	Now what it meant, and it was clear, the guy needed 100% certainty.
	I said, well there it is.
	Nothing in life is certain.
	You cannot have 100% certainty.
	You will never know exactly.
	That's the issue you're dealing with.
	Oh, that's incredible.
	And it just spelled it out for us.
	Well, Doctor, you have written your own book.
	That sounds interesting.
	Are you getting enlightened or losing your mind?
	We'll have you on separately as a guest in the future.
	I look forward to it.
	Doctor, thank you.
	Thank you.
	My, my, my, my.
	How about that?
	David, I had no idea that was coming.
	Hi, David.
	Hi.
	I'm a little bit shaken here.
	So am I, because I had no idea you'd been nominated for a Nobel Prize.
	Well, there's a lot of stuff.
	I don't like talking about.
	I mean, I really don't.
	Reverse speech really does have a lot more acceptance than what I even let on on the program.
	I've got many, many professional people who back Well, this was very impressive.
	Yeah, I submitted a lot of my articles and notes to many organizations.
	So you've got to realize that I've been doing this for 14 years, you know, and I'm not playing around with this.
	It's not a toy.
	I understand.
	It's not something, you know, I thought, oh, gee, let's do this and play a few tapes back with it and make some money, which is something I'm accused of all the time.
	And you know, I mean, I did this for, you know, at least 12 or 13 years before I even went public with it.
	It was like, I had to be sure that this was real and I really adopted a very, very logical approach to it, validated all my work, verified it, I've done blind tests, I've cross-checked, I've got all my 14 years of notes, I've got every single tape I've ever recorded, they're cross-checked, I've got endorsements Like you wouldn't believe.
	I've got a massive pile of information.
	Anyone who wants to take the time, I can validate this.
	I can validate it empirically.
	I can validate it scientifically.
	I can validate it metaphorically.
	This is real.
	It works.
	it will change our society. I'm still a little bit embarrassed by Dennis coming on the program.
	My heart is pounding. Well, I'm glad we were able to do it, David.
	Let us try by the top of the hour, let's race through whatever's left of Colonel Corso, and then turn our attention to our friends at No, sir.
	Okay, well let me just pick out the highlights then.
	I've got about 20 more of those.
	We're just going to pick out some highlights.
	Okay, we've got 10 minutes left.
	Here he is talking about, this is one all queued up, this is Trudeau was fired earlier in his career.
	We were ready to put an effect and then he had his heart attack and it went sort of downhill.
	CIA opposed it and the State Department opposed it and I found out later that they used deceptive methods to oppose it.
	And he's talking about the CIA, he says backwards, it's often moppy business.
	A bit of a metaphor there, but dirty business is the essence of it.
	It's often moppy business.
	It's often moppy business.
	I mean it speaks for itself.
	It's often moppy business.
	Sure.
	The whole intelligence field, etc.
	Then he's back on the body he saw again.
	He's repeating that story.
	I want to play these reversals.
	This is a separate account, so it's significant.
	I saw a body at Fort Riley, Kansas.
	But I put that out of my mind until I could corroborate information.
	The reversal simply says, I looked at it.
	I looked at it.
	I looked at it.
	I've got to stop watching them.
	I mean, the shock that I get when I hear it, and it's so clear.
	Do it again.
	There's no other way you can hear that.
	Speaks for itself.
	Yeah, I looked at him.
	As I said to you before, he's telling a perfectly congruent tale.
	This man.
	Has information that will rewrite the history of the 20th century.
	If we consider our whole technological society is based on a crashed alien craft in Roswell?
	Yes.
	Man, it's mind-blowing.
	Here he is again.
	Could you have been looking at a dummy, a non-being?
	You know, Art, I told people in late interviews that I will not criticize a sister service.
	And backwards he says, Art, they're hiding it.
	Art, they're hiding it.
	Art, they're hiding it.
	You hear that one OK?
	Clearly.
	Yeah, they're hiding the body.
	Art, they're hiding it.
	And he's talking directly to you.
	Actually, I'm going to play one other in this trend.
	This is so significant.
	The next reversal is three reversals in a row.
	Affirmative.
	And my computer won't load this file.
	Let me just try one more time.
	I've got an error message on it.
	OK.
	Let's try again.
	No, it's not going to do that one.
	OK.
	Well, there was another reversal that said, they got it.
	So I looked at it.
	Ah, they're hiding it.
	And the other one, the one to play that my computer won't load, is they got it.
	All right, and what everybody needs to understand is these are found using reverse tape recorders, and then once you have located them, then you go to the computer, you go to that exact spot, and the reversal is easily done then with a computer.
	But for the looking, A computer is not very useful.
	Oh, no.
	It's far too clumsy.
	It's too slow.
	You can't get the speed with it.
	And you've got to use the machine to find it.
	You know, you can play around with a computer, but until they've got computers that are running a whole bunch faster... Sure.
	It's just not good to find them.
	What they are good for is presentation.
	And that's the only reason I use it.
	I can pull them up quickly and easily to demonstrate it.
	All right, anything else on the kernel we should hear?
	Okay, yeah, this is... Let me just do a couple more here.
	And then when I became the missile commander at the range in New Mexico, I started picking up these objects traveling 3,000-4,000 miles an hour.
	And I start checking that, and our headquarters don't want to be informed.
	So I didn't say much.
	Okay, I'm not going to play the rest of the forwards.
	It's a long section.
	It's a reversal I really want to play.
	There's two right next to each other that said, NASA's cut the dollar.
	Who did it?
	The first reversal, NASA's cut the dollar, followed by who did it?
	And I think it's referring to funding being withdrawn or something.
	NASA's cut the dollar.
	Who did it?
	Wow.
	NASA cut the dollars, who did it?
	NASA cut the dollars, who did it?
	He's questioning here, what happened here? Where's it gone?
	Okay, let me just, I'm just going to pull out some of the significant ones.
	Well, look, we're not in that much of a hurry.
	I didn't mean to say we had to finish with the Colonel.
	Oh, I'm sorry!
	I was rushing through.
	No, no, no, no.
	Go ahead with another one.
	We've got time before the top of the hour, but this is radio, not TV.
	Right.
	Okay, then let's look at...
	Well, let's look at this one here.
	We're just going to load this one up.
	And once again, people can go to my website.
	Half the reversals are up now.
	I didn't have time to put the rest up.
	They'll be up on Monday.
	On that, we used to discuss, if they fight a war against us, are they going to fight on our level or their level?
	And he's talking about if the aliens would fight a war.
	Are they going to fight on our level or their level?
	And backwards he says, Doubtful they'll give us that.
	And I think he's referring to they won't fight it on our level.
	They're not going to give us that glory.
	Doubtful they'll give us that.
	Doubtful they'll give us that.
	Oh, that'll take your breath away, David.
	Just give that to me at regular speed.
	He's talking about a war.
	Would they fight at our level or would they use their technology?
	Correct.
	And the reverse?
	Doubtful they'll give us that.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Doubtful they'll give us that.
	Doubtful they'll give us that.
	They won't give us the luxury of that one.
	You bet it's doubtful they'd give us that.
	Anybody who's going to be in a war with anybody is going to use what they have.
	War is war.
	Absolutely.
	Now this one's a very significant, this next one.
	I've actually, probably of all the reversals in this transcript, this is the one I pondered the... Oh no you don't, no you don't.
	Here's how I hang people up, David.
	A extremely significant reversal coming up from Colonel Corso right after the news and commercials.
	That's how it's done in radio, David.
	Stay right there.
	Nominated for a Nobel, huh?
	David John Oates is my guest.
	We're talking about reverse speech right now.
	That of Colonel Corso.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	This is a replay of the original song by the band.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	You have no idea how hard a time it was to find this reggae version of this song.
	It drives me crazy.
	It goes around and around in my head.
	So even when I'm not on the air, sometimes I just play it until my ears begin to bleed.
	And then I'll be like, oh, I'm going to die.
	And then I'll be like, oh, I'm going to die.
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	AMC.com.au All right, now, we're going, obviously, to NASA, and what we are going to do in the next little while is to play you reversals from a press conference that was just held the other day.
	You know, they've been having a series of press conferences since Sojourner bounced its way onto the Martian surface.
	Correct.
	And as a matter of fact, we are going to go back.
	I'm sure Richard Hoagland will have you go back and supply you with tapes.
	Of some of the earlier press conferences, because according to you, when people are very emotionally not in control, you tend to get much better reversals, correct?
	Oh, absolutely correct.
	The more emotional they are, the greater the occurrence and the greater the clarity.
	It's coming from the right brain, which is emotional in nature.
	So the more emotional, the greater the reversals.
	I've actually become quite hooked with this in the last few weeks I've been doing these, and so I would be very happy to do those tapes.
	So obviously when it first landed on Mars, they were not emotionally in control.
	Hell, they were crying, some of them.
	Oh, they absolutely were crying.
	Flippin' out.
	So that should be interesting.
	But what we've got coming next for you was a press conference, very recent.
	When was it, David?
	This was July 31st.
	It was just yesterday.
	Today.
	All right.
	Boy, you did some fast work, didn't you?
	Oh, yes, I did.
	And we're going to start with this conference now.
	He's talking about that they haven't had any problems so far.
	There have been no computer resets, etc.
	There have been no computer resets that plagued us earlier in the mission, and there have been no significant communication problems that also we had some difficulties with earlier.
	This is an amusing reversal to start off with.
	It simply says, make your fingers sore.
	Imagine him typing on the keyboard, trying to correct all these problems.
	Make your fingers sore.
	Make your fingers sore.
	Yeah.
	They were doing a lot of that.
	Oh, they really were.
	Make their fingers sore.
	Make your fingers sore.
	There we go.
	That's an amusing one to get started with.
	Now we're going to get right down into the nitty-gritty, and this next reversal blew my mind.
	There's two of them in a row here.
	Then set even greater land distance rover records on Mars by going a full six meters in autonomous fashion, as will be described later, over to this region behind these two rocks named Calvin and Hobbes.
	Okay, the rover's out hunting around.
	Two reversals.
	The first one says, Reveal the Dark City.
	Reveal the Dark City.
	Reveal Sorry, and the white man's skull, period.
	We see it now, hidden.
	And the white man's skull, we see it now, hidden.
	And I'll play it and I'll talk about what I think it means.
	And the white man's skull, we see it now, hidden.
	David, what were they... Would you please give me the forward portion of that again?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	That even greater land distance rover record on Mars by going a full six meters in autonomous fashion as will be described later over to this region behind these two rocks named Calvin and Hobbes.
	And they just talk about they're traveling behind these two rocks.
	It's just operations of rovers being put through.
	And I think we are seeing one of the other things that Rover is doing, looking for a city and the remains of something.
	We'll play those two reversals again.
	I mean, you know, there's a little bit of a tonal glitch on that one, but in the white man's skull, we see it now hidden.
	Even I can grasp the metaphoric significance of that.
	Oh, absolutely.
	When I heard that one, it flipped me out.
	David, I have a few faxed questions.
	Uh, that I consider to be good ones.
	Can I ask?
	Oh, sure.
	Let's go for it.
	Alright, dear Art.
	Fascinating.
	Please ask David.
	If stammering is a cue for possible reverse speech, I swear that almost without fail I've heard it in all the segments thus far.
	Yes, absolutely correct.
	There's certain places where reversals will nearly always occur.
	One is stutters and stammers like that, mispronunciations of words, pauses in speech, rapid tonal shifts, those general types of things.
	Generally the inconsistencies of speech and I maintain that That these inconsistencies of speech are there for the sole purpose of creating and communicating speech reversals.
	All right, you need to move your wire a little bit again.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay, it drags over the phone line.
	All right.
	How's that?
	Just spiffy.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell.
	I was wondering if you could ask Mr. Oates if he has ever done any reversals on people with schizophrenia and retardation and what he has found in that research.
	I haven't done anything with retardation.
	I've done a couple of schizophrenia.
	Fascinating, fascinating studies.
	You will get two voices talking to each other.
	In one case I worked, and two completely different.
	You can tell the obvious.
	Difference in the two tonalities, and they're dialoguing with each other.
	Wow!
	Just amazing stuff.
	Alright, here's something from Prophecy Today, the newsletter.
	Uh, Ms.
	Bell, I am not certain that David has the answer to this question, but here it goes.
	If reverse speech is occurring on a subconscious level, then is it possible that the uneasy feeling we get around some people is because subconsciously we know they're lying or shifty?
	Oh sure, absolutely correct.
	We are all receiving reversals of each other unconsciously all the time.
	It is a communication process.
	We are unconsciously hearing them and we are recognizing those messages as intuition or that gut feeling.
	I've got entire conversations running backwards.
	For example, could I, for the fun of it, take a tape recorder and go to a used car lot Start asking about these cars.
	Right.
	You say driven by a little old lady, right?
	You know, that kind of story.
	Absolutely.
	Here's something I would like to try.
	I'm on the air for five hours a night, David, and I know you wouldn't do it without me saying it's okay, but why don't you take some of my emotionally stressed shows As a matter of fact, with Brother Ali, that would be a good example.
	The one last night is perfect.
	It would be just spiffy.
	And reverse me.
	I will go and do that.
	I will.
	Let me just say one interesting thing to the used car lot.
	Let some people contemplate this one.
	I've got a client who comes to me with the reversals on her stockbroker.
	And she has invested her money based on the stockbroker's reversals.
	And she hasn't missed.
	You're kidding.
	She hasn't missed.
	You're kidding.
	I am not kidding.
	I am not kidding.
	I'm even thinking about putting some cash in it myself, you know.
	She's following the stockbroker's lead, and the reversals are either saying whether he really believes it or not believes it, and getting his unconscious.
	Uh, opinion on whether the stocks are going to rise or fall.
	Oh, I could have used some of that over the last week.
	Oh, really?
	What a wonderful application for the capitalists.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Just another twist on the used car problem.
	You're actually at the bottom right.
	All right, well, listen, NASA stuff is important, so whatever you've got left, let's cover it.
	Okay, well, the alpha searching, The heel may shake the loose dirt.
	There's a couple of reversals in that thread.
	So let's run it.
	The next one says, with our seed.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You were going to explain to us what you thought the significance of that was.
	Oh yeah.
	I actually think there's a second mission going on.
	Doing something else.
	The Alpha is either a name for a vehicle or a metaphor for maybe the first one that landed or something.
	Why are they shaking the loose dirt?
	I'm not too sure.
	But the next reversal says, with our seeds in it, which I found very significant.
	With our seeds in it?
	With our seeds in it?
	I don't know what it means.
	Okay, you didn't play the forward portion of that.
	Oh, that was all on the same...
	Oh, I see.
	It was a further reversal.
	Correct.
	There was actually three reversals all together.
	Let me run them together.
	I've got to play the third one yet, too.
	The alpha searched the hill and they shake the loose dirt.
	Alpha searched the hill and they shake the loose dirt.
	And the next one says, without seeds in it.
	Without seeds in it.
	Without seeds in it.
	And the next one says, off from the view.
	Off from the view.
	Off from the view.
	Not quite as clear on the last one.
	I agree, it's actually quite far.
	Let me do it one more time, see if it fits.
	I think it's there personally, but I think there's something going on hidden that we aren't seeing.
	We're running rapidly out of time here.
	All these reversals will be up on my site by Monday, or you can get takes from our office to get the rest.
	All right.
	Get the rest of them.
	But I have a couple little goodies here.
	I want to, I've actually got a couple reversals on the actual landing itself.
	So let me just run some of them.
	That it's still alive on the surface.
	And that was the biggest uncertainty, is whether it was going to make it to the surface
	and hit the surface.
	That means the parachutes work, the heat shield works, the airbags work.
	It all works.
	Oh, that's when they were really excited.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is a couple of the ace cards I've got up my sleeve.
	I've got a couple of these.
	This one says, It's near.
	Let's reverse the plan.
	It's the first.
	It goes along with the alpha.
	It's the first.
	What's near?
	And what plan are they reversing?
	She's obviously very excited.
	They've had great success.
	And they're changing something.
	So, It's near.
	Let's reverse the plan.
	It's the first.
	It's near.
	Let's reverse the plan.
	It's the first.
	It's very fast.
	Oh yes, but I hear it.
	Here it is.
	It's near, let's reverse the plan.
	There we go.
	It's near, let's reverse the plan.
	It's the first.
	What's the first?
	No, Richard Hogan will have something to say on that.
	And these next couple of reversals, I'll play on this.
	This is my present for Richard.
	This is Dan Golden.
	And a young man, Kirk Goodall, Came up to me and said, Dan, we can't be on the internet because we're going to get too many hits.
	This one is just really speaks for itself.
	It says, now we thank you.
	Made this name.
	He's thanking the guy for putting him on the net, I guess.
	Now you thank you.
	Made this name.
	Now you thank you.
	Made this name.
	There you go.
	Very clear, very clear.
	Just thanking someone for doing that for him.
	We're almost down to the last one here now.
	All right.
	Actually, there's three more to play.
	Here we go on this one.
	This is exciting.
	We are now really in the electronic age, and I'm so proud that we could get this information to everyone who wanted to see it.
	Roberto says, this is snow.
	We know.
	And I think he's talking about a snow job.
	Something's not quite right.
	is that no one else and that when i came to snow we know
	and if the year we realize that the public will know and that's that's not job is not quite the way it appears
	well there you are folks your tax dollars at work uh... or actually that we don't know what i should play to
	uh...
	and this is that uh... that world this is just
	the last one me at this point
	turn the program over to the real people who did it and tell you and all the people who work for you
	how proud I am, the Vice President, the President, and the American people.
	Well, that's where they ought to bring out our little grey alien.
	Yeah, really.
	Well, that's very appropriate and irreversible here.
	The first one says, we play with it.
	Is that the grey alien?
	I'm being a bit facetious there, but we play with it.
	We play with it.
	Oh my.
	We play with it.
	Play with what?
	Yeah, that's right.
	Play with what?
	The next one is a big question which I will let Richard answer next time he's on your program.
	And it says, we feel we'll beat the law.
	We feel we'll beat the law.
	We feel we'll beat the law.
	And once more.
	Oh, here we go.
	We feel we'll beat the law.
	There we go.
	Actually, let me squeeze just one final one.
	Sure.
	This was on a reporter.
	Uh, who was actually asked the questions, and it was such a clear reversal, um, uh, I normally, you know, I just didn't, I quite, I heard it quite by accident when I was rewinding the tape.
	There's very dramatic differences in temperature and wind between five feet up and right down to the surface.
	It suggests that in the immediate neighborhood of the surface, there's in effect a distinct microenvironment.
	Okay, a reversal.
	Now, this is the reporter's opinion, of course.
	Reversal says, subversing our government.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my.
	Just give that to me at regular speed again.
	Yeah, extremely clear reversal.
	I mean, you know... My, my, my.
	And there we go!
	Mars reversal.
	All right.
	With the remaining time that we have, David, why don't you just, I know you've got a grand file there full of celebrity reversals, full of, you know, pick the clearest, most interesting reversals that you can think and just fill up the rest of the time.
	Okay, well then that's what we'll do.
	Sure.
	I'm just going to move to another directory for this one.
	We'll go to Total Random Picking by David himself.
	Random access.
	Incidentally, if I were to send you the tapes on Null's Hole... Oh yeah, okay.
	Would that be something you'd take on?
	Oh sure.
	Yeah, let's go for it.
	I'd like to do that.
	I've had a bit of a chuckle about that, as well as the Chevy falling out of the sky.
	Oh yes.
	We will look at that, sure.
	OK, this is a reversal that got me into a lot of trouble in Australia.
	I'm playing this because the Australian media have just started to take notice of me again.
	I was asked this week to appear on the equivalent of Australia's 60 Minutes.
	They're sending a team out in September, I believe, to film.
	So that was a great coup to me.
	This is the Prime Minister of Australia back in 1987.
	He just won the election.
	uh... and uh... this man had the very uh... had uh... quite a dark reputation
	he was he's in the guinness local rep records as uh... winning the world be a drinking
	championship productive he was uh... well-known woman i have a conflict
	to adultery on tv a couple times and uh...
	uh... he actually had thirty ready well we've had people in this country do that
	So he ran on the platform that he'd given up all his illicit lifestyle.
	So a reporter comes to him and says, well how do you plan to celebrate now Mr. Hawke?
	What are your celebration plans?
	Oh, uh, several cups of tea.
	A bit of sarcasm there.
	Glossy sarcasm, yeah.
	And he says back, was used to smoke the best marijuana.
	I actually had a phone call a couple of weeks after that from one of his associates.
	He said, well, that's exactly what used to happen.
	Well, you know, you really need to play that for the Australian version of 60 Minutes.
	I will definitely do that.
	It's hilarious.
	Let me run that again.
	You know, it's the fact we've been missing out a while, man.
	Tell me, what do you say?
	That's funny.
	Huh?
	Yeah, what do you say is right?
	I've never heard that's a riot.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here's one I found on Hillary Clinton on the Larry King Show, and she's talking about life in the Washington way.
	And we're just loading this up now.
	And one, two, three, quick as a flash, here it is.
	We're also very pleased by everything that he's been able to do, and we've loved being here, so, you know, try to balance it the way it's all about.
	And she says, bless the ale, this is the life.
	Bless the ale, this is the life.
	Bless the ale, this is the life.
	Yeah, I'm sure they're leading the life all right.
	Oh, I'm sure they are.
	We actually found that one in class.
	We did that tape in class.
	Class is a whole bunch of fun.
	I love doing my classes.
	We just play tapes and talk about theories and find some incredible stuff.
	Incredible.
	And I guess the audience ought to know, they really ought to know that there are a lot of reversals that because of the language that is used, we cannot play on the air, right?
	Oh, absolutely correct.
	That is quite so.
	Actually, I've got one that's borderline.
	I think I can get away with it.
	Well, I'll tell you off hand.
	You tell me whether I can play it or not.
	All right, let's do that.
	We're at a perfect break point to do that, so we can make a quick career-saving move here.
	And we'll be right back.
	David Oates, David John Oates, Mr. Reverse Speech is my guest, and I will preview this one.
	Not for you, but for the sake of my own career.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	This is a presentation of the Coast to Coast AM concert.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight, featuring a replay of Coaster Coast AM from August 1st, 1997.
	My, my, my.
	Remember when I told you I thought I had a pretty good picture of a UFO?
	The one I scanned?
	The one that's on my website?
	Right now?
	From Ringgold, Georgia?
	And I said I didn't know where Ringgold, Georgia was?
	Well, listen to this, folks.
	Dear Mr. Bell, Ringgold is in northern Georgia, just south of Chattanooga, Tennessee.
	This is only one in a series of well-documented sightings across our state.
	Signed, William Lester, State Section Director, Clayton, Henry Newton Counties, Georgia.
	Move on.
	So apparently I've got the real McCoy in my hands.
	You might want to take a good look.
	I've got that up there right now for your perusal.
	When I got it, I said, look at this.
	This is not your normal UFO photograph.
	David Oates is my guest.
	Yes, we'll get back to him in a moment.
	Now we take you back to the night of August 1st, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Now, let's get back to the night of August 1st, 1997, on Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Now, uh, David, are you there?
	Yes, I am.
	Um, it says here, Dear Art, Alpha, Remember Alpha?
	Oh yeah!
	Alpha refers to the Alpha Proton X-Ray Spectrometer on the rover Sojourner.
	Oh!
	Yeah, that's what I said too.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	These aha moments that come a little later are always very interesting.
	I'd say indeed.
	That's from David.
	Thank you, David.
	Oh, wow!
	Another David.
	They shake the loose dirt.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	Well, well, well.
	And people say you can't find any information in this.
	We just had one live on the air right then.
	And I just got an email about Finesse as well.
	And Finesse is a term used by people who play bids, wits or spades.
	Probably a card game.
	When you finesse, you trick someone into playing what they think is their winning card.
	This way the transactions perform as they play a card, which the offence pursues will put them in a better position.
	So it's trickery.
	Of a sort, sure.
	Of a sort.
	You're squeaking your way around.
	That's true.
	Good description.
	And adding to your chat club, I'm also going to be in the San Francisco chat club on August the 31st.
	So you might want to make note of that one as well.
	All right.
	And Portland, I just received an email too, from Portland chap club, want me there.
	Really?
	Oh my.
	This is exciting, isn't it?
	Traveling all over the place, aren't you?
	It's like the profits convention, I'm getting quite a schedule here.
	Yes, you are.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, the one we had to check with you off air, it's actually a very significant reversal.
	One of the things I've discovered in my work with reverse speech therapy, Is that if there is not unconscious consent for change, no amount of therapeutic work will do much good.
	By unconscious consent, the client can come to you and want to change their problem, but if their unconscious mind is rigidly hanging on to it, you've got to deal with that issue before you can even begin to change.
	So this one here is actually from my sister, and I've got permission to use this, and she actually came out to me in America to do session work.
	And so I'm asking her, you know, you're my sister, are we going to have problems doing this?
	I have some concerns, Annie, with you being my sister.
	Yeah.
	And me doing the task work.
	Do you think my concerns are valid, or am I just being paranoid?
	I was going to say, you don't need to be concerned, or maybe there is a... Okay, so she says you don't need to be concerned, but that's what she says, I'll mess with you, you bloody arse.
	Oh yes, you hear that, yes?
	Oh yes, you hear that, yes?
	Yes.
	Clearly we had some problems and we did.
	We had a lot of problems.
	Once I started doing special work, a lot of issues came up and it was a rough, it was a real rough ride for her as well as me.
	There's probably a cardinal rule with anybody who does this and that is don't do it with your loved ones, don't do it with your family.
	I mean that's just You're right.
	That's absolutely correct.
	I give very strict instructions on the first weekend of my training course.
	Do not do reversals on yourself.
	Do not do reversals on your spouse or your friends.
	It's going to bring up issues that, quite frankly, you are not ready to deal with.
	You cannot underestimate the power of this.
	I mean, you're looking into your soul almost, you know, into the real you, who you really, really are.
	It's not to be taken by the weak-hearted, quite frankly.
	Here's one I don't think I've played on your program.
	This goes back to the old Beatles days, John Lennon, and where really this whole thing began way back then.
	This is John Lennon being interviewed after the death of the Maharishi.
	Not Maharishi, Brian Epstein, their manager, is talking about Maharishi was going to meet him soon.
	I understand that this afternoon Maharishi conferred with you all.
	Could I ask you what advice he offered you?
	He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and to whatever thoughts we have of Brian to keep him happy because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is.
	and a little bit we've been capped the people now probably have now
	and probably have now i think it was very clear reversal and
	and it's actually you know a lot of commentators state that the uh... death of ron epstein was the beginning
	of the end for the people
	well this is going to sound silly but at the beginning of the program
	which will be repeated uh... no doubt after i'm done here
	uh... in some markets i i was issued you know sounds dumb i'm
	I was in serious grief one minute before I had been nearly giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to my fax machine, trying to get it living again.
	And I was in serious grief.
	Really, I was joking about it, trying to make light of it.
	But I was really, really grieving for this stupid loss of this machine, and I wonder if that would be... if reversals would reveal Well, I'm giving you permission.
	Oh, I'm sure they would.
	Sure.
	I mean it will reveal whatever is going through your mind at the time and not just at the
	time as well.
	I'm sure.
	You know, maybe we can look at some reversals around there and see what we find.
	Well, I'm giving you permission.
	Fish around with me a little bit and see what you find.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I deliberately avoided doing reversals.
	I did them once or twice, and then I figured, no, I'd better not do that.
	No, no, no, it's alright.
	Okay.
	Alright, well, let's go.
	I can handle it.
	Good.
	Let's go and do it, then.
	And if I can, I'll hunt you down.
	Oh boy, I better say you better get that asbestos out now!
	Okay, here's a fascinating reversal.
	It's not from a politician or anything.
	It just shows some of the interesting aspects of reverse speech.
	The reversal is actually on me.
	I'm with a client and she's just telling me a couple of things about herself.
	You'll hear me say two things.
	I say, oh really?
	And then I say, doing what?
	Don't ask, but when you said that word it reminded me of my first business.
	Oh really?
	I was about nine years old.
	Doing what?
	Well, back east they use coal in the winter time.
	And one of the things we see in reverse speech is often what we're saying forwards is formulated in the unconscious mind before we actually say it.
	And it's very common to see people's statements appear backwards before it does forwards.
	And then reversal occurs on me when I say, oh, really?
	Oh, really?
	And I run this back, I'm knocking and I have to tell you what this one says.
	Oh, really, Rob?
	Oh, really, Rob?
	You hearing that one okay?
	No.
	Well, I mean, I heard it, but I didn't understand.
	Oh, okay.
	It says, doing what?
	Oh, really, Rob?
	No, I still... Oh, really, Rob?
	Huh?
	I still don't hear it clearly.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, even after you told me, I don't.
	Oh, boy, now I'm trying on this one.
	Oh, really, Rob?
	Well, you know what it may be, David?
	It may be your accent.
	That's true.
	Okay.
	Well, that was a little experiment, I didn't know that.
	No offense, but a lot of Australians are difficult enough to hear forwards.
	Oh, I understand that.
	You're doing remarkably well just to get me here.
	I have the same problem with the British, particularly when I'm watching, and the Irish.
	Oh, the Irish give me fits.
	Um, and I have to listen intently to understand what you're saying.
	Of course, you've been here long enough now.
	Right.
	Well, I think I've probably lost the edge of my accent, quite frankly.
	Um, and talking about the fire, let me, let me, let me do the fire reversal again.
	I'm just sort of going down my list here and just pulling them out.
	All right.
	This is, uh, when the fire began that burned David's Home down.
	Uh-huh, that's correct.
	And how long ago was it?
	That was four months ago now.
	Four months ago.
	Alright, lay it on us.
	I'm in the office and my secretary suddenly rushes in.
	I know with ease.
	A sense of the chances, a sense of what?
	Yes?
	What?
	Something burning in there.
	Okay, that brings the chills back down the isle.
	I will remember that for the day I die.
	I'm sure.
	And back what she says, the house is on fire.
	Our house is on fire.
	There is no water. No.
	I mean exactly the same backwards as it is forwards.
	There is no water. No.
	And, you know, it also had the ethereal sound to it again.
	Right.
	We're into a highly emotional situation here.
	The right brain clicks in.
	And, you know, that's a very interesting observation.
	You can actually tell by the tonal quality of the reversal what type of conversation it's coming from.
	you'll typically notice that reversals that are left brain or coming from the media or someone
	reading a script have this robotic mechanical sound to it and as soon as you get into
	the emotional type system situation you get this etheric sound and it's one of
	the things I teach in my classes is how to tell, you can actually once you get
	really good at telling where in the mind it's coming from by its tone and
	I've noticed about eight different tonal types so far and you know I haven't even
	gotten into those in Christmases in your program but I cover that great in
	great depth in my class Okay, let me just move on down the list here.
	Look, here's one of my favorite ones.
	I play this on most programs I am on, and it's Bill Clinton denying charges of moral dishonesty.
	I'm sure I've played it on your program before.
	There still has not been a single solitary shred of evidence of anything dishonest that I have done in my public life, not only as governor and as president.
	And backwards he says, denied the habits and I said damn ya.
	Denied the habits and I said dang ya.
	Denied the habits and I said dang ya.
	It actually could be dang ya.
	I'd say Dang.
	Yeah, I... Probably in Arkansas they say dang.
	I'm sure you're probably correct, and that's an accent type of thing, you know.
	David, could I mess you up using something like this?
	Would this mess you up, David, or would you be able to deal with it?
	I suppose I went a bit a little wide, and suppose I got even deeper, and deeper, and deeper, and deeper, and deeper.
	No, I said you deal with that.
	Oh, I can deal with that.
	I can still understand what you're saying.
	And as we proved on the Victor one, you can actually get reversals on that, too.
	Is there either way that you could go?
	That was, uh... Way down and deep, but you could go the other way.
	And you could get all high and really low until you became a little mass.
	Right.
	Well, you know, what are you doing?
	Changing the pitch, right?
	At some point, wouldn't it begin to mess you up?
	I'm sure it would at some point, yeah.
	I'm sure it would.
	At that point, though, I wouldn't put anybody on the program, so no problem.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, we're doing fine on that.
	Oh, here's one of David Koresh.
	I'm just flucking down my screen, and this is during the siege with the FBI and the CIA outside, and he's actually giving... I think he's actually giving a little sermon.
	I've heard a lot of statements The past couple of days, from people that are versed in scripture, and for people that are students of the Bible, saying this and saying that about the meanings of these seals.
	But remember, we already see that in heaven, Christ, when he reveals the seal... Eh, we won't listen to the rest of that.
	But he says in reverse though, we're sad, look what's happened.
	We're sad, look what's happened.
	Yeah, and there's one other, I'm not too sure what this one says, let's find out.
	Oh yeah, we see the meaning with my blood.
	There you go.
	Okay, that seems to have something attached to the end of it that doesn't seem... You're quite right, I cut it off earlier.
	Okay, we see the meaning with my blood, the answers soon.
	That's the entire reverse.
	Ah, yes.
	There we go.
	Now, I didn't play the entire reversal first.
	I just cut it off.
	Well, I caught that.
	but I'll have the answer soon.
	There we go.
	I didn't play the entire reversal first, I just cut it off.
	Yeah, you're quite right.
	Something on the end of it.
	Well, I caught that anyway.
	I can see that.
	Alright, let me, let me, let me do one more here, see if you can hear this,
	and then I'd like to get my 1-800 number out again in the remaining time that we've got left.
	Backwards or forwards?
	Oh, backwards.
	Let me see.
	No, no, no, don't do that.
	It's hard enough for them.
	Go ahead with the reverse.
	This is Steve Forbes, is that his name?
	Oh, yes.
	The ex-presidential candidate.
	I interviewed Steve Forbes.
	Did you really?
	Oh, sure.
	Extremely congruent man.
	A very congruent reversal.
	What you see is what you get.
	And here he is talking about abortion.
	I want abortions to disappear in America.
	I feel they're a tragedy.
	I think we can get a consensus today on banning them in late pregnancy.
	An obvious contextual relationship here.
	He's saying he's almost exactly the same thing backwards and forwards.
	He says her crime will rape.
	The citizens showed them.
	Her crime meaning the abortion.
	It's raping, forcibly intruding, and the citizens showed them.
	That's the consensus he discussed forward.
	Preparatory for citizen assaultment.
	Preparatory for citizen assaultment.
	I mean, very clear reversal.
	Well, I believe him to be, to use your word, a very congruent man.
	Yeah, and his reversals were extremely congruent.
	I don't think I found a contradictory reversal on him.
	Essentially, what you see is what you get.
	Alright, what else have I got here?
	Let me get out my 1-800 number again if we've got time.
	Alright, and all kinds of things are available at this 800 number.
	It's Iowa, right?
	Correct.
	Iowa tape machines have been specifically modified for reverse speech and they are not cheap.
	But they're not cheap, if you know what I mean.
	In other words, these are good machines, good quality machines, and you charge, what, $169?
	You start at $165, and the top one is $225.
	I need to say that I have tried many different brands over the years, and most of them break down within a couple of months.
	They aren't designed for the rigorous motion, and these literally are the top of the line Iowa machines.
	I can stock them cheaper, but they just don't last, and they just don't have the quality that you need to find reversal.
	No, don't sell junk.
	No, I'm not selling junk.
	Then my book, I think, is essential, Reverse Speech Voices from the Unconscious.
	It goes right into the theories that I've developed to explain this.
	It gets a lot into the therapeutic side of it.
	It covers a lot of the technical tests that I have covered.
	There's another book I've just finished writing called It's Only a Metaphor that's still in manuscript form, but we are selling that now.
	That's actually an autobiographical account of my discovery and the struggles and trials I went through.
	It's a very long book.
	Actually, I've never even talked about it on the air before, but that's available in manuscript form only.
	There's tapes and videos and, of course, our correspondence course, where you can actually learn this and study it as a career.
	One quick question.
	Yes, sir.
	N-K-O-E-A-X-P-E-G-P-A-D-L-Y.
	I'm sorry?
	Alright, you got me on that one.
	I asked you if you could speak Pig Latin.
	No, I cannot.
	That's something from my childhood.
	It'd be interesting to see what reverse speech could do about that.
	You know what?
	We've got time.
	I'm game.
	I want to play something.
	This is, look, this is hilarious.
	This is something I put together in the studio.
	I've never ever played this on the hours in a very crazy moment.
	And it describes, it's a small musical interlude.
	It's about 30 seconds long.
	And it describes how I feel after doing hours and hours of reversal.
	It's a crazy, crazy piece.
	Alright.
	Here we go.
	Ha!
	I. Think. That. The.
	F tasty them
	and them
	delighting had
	eh did
	Is this forwards or backwards?
	I can't tell anymore.
	Too many backwards sounds.
	Backwards tapes.
	Hours of it going through my brain.
	Sending me insane.
	thing. That's it, David. We're out of time. Tell them good night.
	Good night, America.
	Thank you for listening to me.
	Good night, David.
	Okay, good night, Art.
	That's it, everybody, from the high desert.
	See you Sunday on Dreamland.

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