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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
		And or good morning, as the case may be.
		And welcome to Anything Goes Talk Radio.
		Open Lines all night long tonight.
		Anything you guys want to talk about is fair game.
		From the Tahitian and Hawaiian Island Chains in the West to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
		Both with visions of dancing girls and trade winds and such.
		In South America, north to the Pole, worldwide on the great internet.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. I'm Mark Bell.
		Good morning.
		It's going to be one of those nights.
		We're simply going to open the winds.
		We're not going to screen calls.
		We never do.
		And we're going to see what happens.
		Not a lot of news.
		The McVeigh trial has gone to the jury.
		Well, correction.
		The McVeigh trial will have the judge instruct the jury, and it will go to the jury in the morning.
unidentified		So that'll be a wait-and-see deal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You know, the prosecution says he did it, presented a pretty strong case.
		Defense says he didn't, and the guy who did was blown up.
		And that's where the extra leg came from.
		And personally, I doubt it's going to be a very long deliberation.
		I would expect a verdict fairly quickly.
		We'll see.
		The Marines are evacuating, using helicopters to evacuate about 250 Americans from Freetown, Sierra Leone.
		Now, we say it is not stable.
		Indeed, it is not, though they claim to have it under control.
		They also claim that nobody better violate their airspace, as in U.S. helicopters coming out.
		We are intent on taking our people out.
		And my estimation would be that if they get in the way of our helicopters, they will be sorry.
		Scientists in Spain, check this out, have found the remains, this is from Reuters, by the way, this ours, Reuters, have found the remains of what could be the oldest known European.
		The fossilized remains of a boy with a remarkably modern face date back 780,000 years and have now been dubbed homo ancestor.
		Homo antecessor, I guess that is, really.
		The new same deal.
		The new species is considered a relative of both modern man and the Neanderthals.
		Now, wouldn't that make it the missing link?
		In other words, if they can clearly show a link between Neanderthal and modern man...
		They are considered to have advanced thinking abilities, judging by the quality of tools found nearby.
		The researchers will have their findings published Friday in the magazine Science.
		Did you see the young lady, 13-year-old, who won the spelling B?
		She jumped up and down and jumped up and down.
		Actually, she began celebrating prior to the spelling of her word because obviously she knew how to spell it.
		She was happy to get the word.
		And it's fun to see somebody that happy.
		Boy, she was just jumping up and down, wasn't she?
		Now, this is the one serious presentation that I wish to make to you this morning, and we may or may not talk about it.
		But before I open lines, this fact came to me last night during the hind end of the Wayne Green program, and I thought I wanted to deal with it.
		So I thought I would save it for tonight.
		And people have asked me from time to time if I'm a Christian.
		Well, you know, I think generally so.
		I mean, I don't know how there are many definitions of that.
		I think Christ walked the earth.
		I think there is a Creator.
		So I think in a general sense, I'm a Christian.
		I've investigated a lot of religions, Buddhism, many others, sort of in search of, been for a long time.
		But I think in general terms, I'm Christian.
		However, specifically so, perhaps not.
		Anyway, I got this facts.
		Hi, Art.
		I heard you say the other night that you're Christian.
		I also heard you just comment on the unrevenge.
		Not consistent, Art.
		The essence of Christ's message is forgiveness.
		Mike in Campbell, California.
		And I must tell you that all my life I have been a revengeful person.
		And I want to say that to delineate between vengeful, as in seeking out to do somebody in, because I don't.
		However, I also do not turn the other cheek.
		So that makes me a revengeful Person.
		I think karma helps those who help themselves.
		Or maybe you could say karma helps those who help karma.
		And I know that you will suggest that no matter what bad things somebody might do to you or somebody you love, that karma in this lifetime or some other will cause, come back to them manyfold.
		Something terrible will happen to them or some incarnation of theirs.
		I can't wait.
		If somebody comes at me, I come right back at them.
		And I come right back at them, usually harder than they came at me.
		And though I'm not going to, for a lot of very good reasons, discuss specifics here, suffice it to say, and you might remember this and mark it down,
		that if somebody comes after me, and maybe it is not the Christian thing to do, and when I mean come after me, I mean come after me, my family, those I love, that sort of thing, I'm going right back after them.
		I don't even have to think about it.
		It's a natural reaction for me, therefore.
		If that is the mark of a Christian to be done upon by others and just sit there and turn the other cheek, then count me out as a Christian.
		And people will call and say, well, you can't.
	Cherry Pick, you can't do that.
	You can't.
	You can't.
	Yes, I can.
	Yes, I can.
	And I can be wrong.
	But that's me.
	I don't know about you, but I'll tell you right now, if somebody comes at me, I'm coming right back at them.
	I have had, so I like your comments on that.
	I have had, I don't know how many messages with regard to the weather lately.
	This one is an Associated Press article from Los Angeles.
	Satellites are picking up a shift in the trade winds and are detecting humps of warm water moving across the Pacific Ocean at the equator.
	Signs another weather-disrupting El Niño may be brewing.
	This is the same thing detected by Stan Dale.
	If so, rains and drought could be in store worldwide.
	An El Niño occurs when westward-blowing trade winds weaken, allowing a mass of warm water, normally situated off Australia, hello Stan, to drive eastward to Western South America.
	The phenomenon got its name from the Spanish words for baby Jesus, because the huge warm pool usually arrives around Christmas.
	Because water expands as it heats.
	Warmer seas are higher seas.
	And they are now detecting two humps six to eight inches high, and that was detected by NASA on Thursday.
	So it is, and by the way, that was from the Washington Post.
	Thank you, David, for sending that along.
	Clearly, the weather is changing, either for the short term or for the long term, but I've got a million articles about it.
	There's no question about it.
	Those poor people in Texas.
	And there's going to be a lot more of that.
	And you may or may not have been following this.
	NASA has a polar spacecraft.
	Pictures from NASA's polar spacecraft, orbiting at about 30,000 miles, clearly show objects streaking toward the Earth and ballooning into clouds 600 to 15,000 miles above the surface.
	Filters on the polar cameras show the objects contain water.
	Estimated they are 20 to 40 aggregate tons of speeding ice in from space at more than 20,000 miles an hour.
	They strike the Earth's atmosphere and vaporize.
	NASA astronomer Steve Marin, that's M-A-R-A-N, said, quote, this is a new class of object, end quote.
	Now a lot of scientists think that this is how the Earth may have acquired its water by this relatively constant bombardment of things that are filled with water.
	Or this may be something relatively new.
	At any rate, I guess we will shortly, according to this, find out.
	Interesting times we live in, aren't they?
	Okay, here's a story I doubt you're going to hear anywhere else, though it is from the Associated Press, Gore Bay, Ontario.
	Check this out.
	A 19-year-old Indian was acquitted of manslaughter Thursday by a judge who accepted testimony that the slain man was believed to be an evil spirit called the Bear Walker.
	Defendant Leon Jocko said that he was acting in self-defense against the Bear Walker when he fatally bludgeoned Ron Thompson with a ceremonial walrus bone in 1995.
	Ontario Court Judge Richard Traynor agreed, ruling the killing was not an act of aggression, but an act of self-defense to protect Jacko And others.
	Quote, from the judge, I accept the evidence of native spirituality as being a sincerely held belief.
	The accused was unaware of the victim's propensity for violence, including his reputation for having powers as a bear walker.
	End quote.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, I say again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a story.
unidentified		What a story.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, tonight I think we are going to devote to absolutely nothing.
		That is to say, whatever it is that grabs your fancy to talk about suits me.
		So here we go.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yes, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		This is Ryan from Houston, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ryan.
unidentified		I called on the night you had Rosalie on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Aha, yes.
unidentified		And I had one comment I didn't get put on the air.
		All right.
		But she seems like she's putting money before everything, which seems like a pretty common thing these days.
		It seems like our morals and ethics are...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Before we get into the other aspect of Rosalie, where you can talk about morals or ethics, I suppose, if you want, there is nothing, in my opinion, immoral or unethical about pursuing money, if you want to.
unidentified		Well, I understand that.
		I mean, money, my grandfather said it wisely, money is a tool.
		You have to have it to live, to survive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But it seems like, well, to put Rosalie aside, nothing against her.
unidentified		I know everything she was saying was true, even though I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the whole thing about Rosalie.
		I mean, you could object to it morally or ethically, but it's really hard to say she's wrong.
		I mean, most of us knew she was absolutely right.
unidentified		Yeah, I agree with that.
		agree with that but uh...
		done and as far as i'm putting money and in front of everything including uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		love The love of money, that's bad news.
unidentified		Yeah, but there's one thing that money cannot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you can like it a lot.
unidentified		You can like it a lot, yes.
unidentified		But there's one thing that money cannot buy, and that is love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, that's true.
unidentified		And that's just all I really wanted to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, you said it well.
		Thank you.
		No, you're right.
		Can't buy love.
		Money can't buy me love.
		That was Beatles, right?
		It's true.
		It can buy you a lot of good sex.
		But he's right.
		Love is a separate entity that will not be purchased.
		That's absolutely correct.
		West of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Is Arbell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm the only one here.
		It's the only possibility.
		Yes, it is me.
unidentified		Oh, morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, depending on your time zone.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I would like to say about the weather.
		Yes.
		In Mark of the Bible, it says that a furious storm came upon the boat and swept over the sea.
		And his disciples woke Jesus saying that, save us, we are going to drown.
		He replied, you little faith, why are you so afraid?
		And I figured that 2,000 years ago, Jesus walked this earth.
		So it says in the Bible repeatedly that he's coming back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But see, as I recall it, he was the only one who could more or less walk on water.
		Yes.
		Everybody else pretty much drowned.
unidentified		It doesn't say that in here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, you know, Noah got it together and saved some animals, but everybody else more or less went under.
unidentified		Yes.
		Okay, and in the Jerusalem, back then, there was a holy land.
		And he says that he keeps coming back.
		He's coming back in clouds and with power and glory.
		And I figured if he's coming back, there's got to be a more holy land.
		So I sat there and figured it out for a while, and I'm pretty sure it's Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Colorado.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Really?
		Yeah.
		about the storms and stuff, high winds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've heard it called God's Country, but I, Yes.
unidentified		I figure that somebody, some individual human, is causing the winds of great power.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thank you very much.
		I don't know about that.
		Maybe a group, a committee.
		Most things are done by committee these days.
		So if you want somebody to blame for the winds, we've got to look for a committee of at least 300, right?
		Hey, by the way, I should say this.
		As you know, my book, My Baby, it's called The Quickening.
		And to be precise, it is 337 pages long.
		As you know, sold out the first printing of that went in exactly two weeks.
		Exactly two weeks.
		It was incredible.
		The second printing has arrived and is now going at the same pace.
		I am still, until I get tired of it, signing books.
		That means you can get a first edition copy, because we now have the second printing in hand.
		You can get a first edition copy of the quickening autographed with my autograph for now.
		And I don't know for how much longer.
		It depends on how much longer I can handle signing books.
		That's it.
		So if I were you, I would not wait because when the day comes, it will come in all likelihood without warning.
		You know, one day I'll just say, man, I can't do this anymore, and I'm thankful that it's going out as quickly as it is, but it consumes nearly all my excess time.
		And so, there is a day when it's going to end.
		Signing them, that is.
		You'll continue to be able to get the book.
		But right now, to get a first edition autographed copy of The Quickening, call 24 hours a day, and now might be a good time to try.
		1-800-864-7991.
		That's 1-800-864-7991.
		If you want to know what we're right in the middle of, it's in that book.
		Without question, when you are done, you will understand.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		On this, Somewhere in Time.
		When you first came my way I said no one would take your place And if you get hurt If you get hurt By the little things I do Now we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You guys got it.
		Open lines, unscreened.
		Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
		Might even do that tomorrow night, too.
unidentified		I don't know.
		Listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, on my website, famous last words, a Talkers magazine, an industry magazine, has rated the top 10 talk show hosts in America.
		Actually, they put out two lists.
		They put out one every year that has the top 100 talk show hosts in America.
		And I guess for the last couple of years, they have also now started a top 10 list.
		And without telling you whether I'm on it or if I am where I might be on it, it's on the website.
		So you might want to take a look.
		If you have a computer, it's www.artbell.com.
		If you don't have a computer but have web TV, it's still www.artbell.com.
		It's in, let's see, it is a matter of fact, it is the first item in the latest news and items section on my website right now.
		West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
		This is Bob in Pasco, Washington.
		How you doing?
		Pretty good.
		But we got a problem up here.
		Oh.
		The city of Pasco is determined to pass a mandatory inspection ordinance, which will allow them to inspect our home every two years.
		For what?
		This is for rentals.
		This is for code violations, like if we have exposed wires or leaky faucets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, when you rent, it's not quite the same thing.
		I'll tell you a little story, okay?
		I lived for about a year in Las Vegas in an apartment.
		And I found that the people who owned those apartments had the right with the master key to come in and inspect for code or safety violations virtually anytime they wanted to.
		And you know what made me finally move out?
		I had never, I mean, I'm really good at paying my bills.
		I pay my bills always ahead of time.
		I'm fanatical about it.
		And so I never, ever missed rent.
		I always paid my rent ahead of time.
		And I'd been there about a year.
		And they began a policy, which is the most arrogant thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
		Not only were they doing inspections and walking in, sometimes unannounced, but they began issuing eviction notices 30 days ahead of time so that if you didn't pay your rent, you would have already been served.
		And I told them what they could do with their apartment.
		And I was out of there like a shot.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, now, do you think this is an invasion of our privacy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I certainly felt invaded.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		You know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I suppose they can make the case that because apartments are connected dwellings, anything unsafe in your apartment endangers somebody else or many other people.
		They can make that case.
		Is it an invasion?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Of course, this is going to be for houses that are as rentals, too.
		So, you know, they may not be Connected.
		But they're not going to do this to private homes, you know, where the owner is living in the home.
		Right.
		And I just wanted to call you up and let you know that this was going on, and maybe we could get some feedback from your audience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you feel invaded.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure there will be feedback, sure.
		And the story I told you is exactly true about what occurred in Las Vegas, and I told them what they could do with their apartment.
		Oh, by the way, while we're on that subject of general disgruntlement, Arch, I think Jesus probably would agree with your stance talking about revenge here.
		Forgiveness does not necessarily entail lack of punishment.
		If this were the case, Christians would be required to protest against prisons.
		A good case in point of view.
		A good case in point from the Bible is when Jesus ran through the temple, trashing all the moneylenders' tables and money everywhere.
		I'm sure he forgave them, but under certain circumstances requiring more than turning the other cheek, and certainly Jesus understood that.
		Very, very good point.
		From Christian, the name in St. Louis.
		On the international line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how's it going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Vancouver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vancouver, yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Hey, I just wanted to congratulate you about all the good news you're spreading to everybody about the quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends.
		I don't know if it's good or bad.
		It just is, sir.
unidentified		It is, definitely.
		We think it's good news up here, though.
		It's like, you know, kind of a completion, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, people keep asking me about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure if it's a completion or the ending of one thing and the beginning of another.
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		Interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an event that's to be soon.
unidentified		I don't know.
		To me, it feels kind of like a triumph for mankind, you know.
		That's what I think the quickening is going to be.
		It's just going to be like the grand finale.
		Everybody's just going to love it.
		We're going to find bliss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the optimistic view.
unidentified		Anyway, I wanted to thank you for having Terence McKenna on the show the other night.
unidentified		That was quite interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have arranged, you know, we did not repeat that program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I have arranged to have it repeated this coming Sunday night, Monday morning.
unidentified		Sunday night, Monday morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
unidentified		All right.
		Well, that's all I wanted to say.
		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call on the International Line.
		And again, I'm very, very remiss in not giving that number out as I should.
		It's 800-893-0903.
		And from anywhere in the world, Europe, Asia, wherever, it is toll-free.
		All you do is get the AT ⁇ T operator and have her call that number, and it won't cost you a penny.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		How you doing tonight?
		Okay.
		This is Paul in Austin, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to kind of talk about the weather.
unidentified		You know, we had these bad tornadoes and everything, and we found out today that the National Weather Service upgraded the Gerald Tornado to an F5.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was an F5.
		Oh, my God.
		That is the very top of the category of tornado that can be.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		That's correct.
		They characterize it as being incredible.
		An F4 is like 200 mile per hour winds to 260.
		F5 is simply incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I saw the quickness with which the system that produced those tornadoes in that tornado formed, and it was absolutely amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who can't look around them right now and see clearly that our weather is changing and not for the better has their eyes shut and their head in the sand.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		It was incredibly quick.
		I had gone to bed about 2 to 3 o'clock that day, and there was one tiny little storm up by Waco, which is, oh, I'd say 80 miles to 100 miles north of Austin.
		And within an hour and a half, it had grown to what had happened.
		So, you know, it is definitely changing.
		And this is something that's unprecedented in Central Texas.
		It hadn't happened, you know.
		So we were all taken by surprise.
		But I guess people's eyes are open now that it can happen anywhere and at any time.
		So, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what people have to do, thank you, is prepare.
		They have to prepare.
		It's getting to the point where I'm advising you to prepare.
		I really mean that.
		And that doesn't mean go crazy.
		It means have food on hand.
		It means have water on hand.
		Have light.
		Have emergency communications.
		The basics.
		Because things are changing.
		And there are going to be more and more people without power and telephone and all the basics that you take for granted because they're always there.
		And believe me, when the weather goes, they are the first to go.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, good morning, Art.
		I just had to hit the switch on the tube radio here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Horses Matt in Allendale, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say tube radio?
unidentified		Well, it's a tube amplifier.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I still love tubes.
unidentified		Yeah, I do too.
		Well, that just happens to be what I have handy to run this thing, and that's the way it is.
		But I piece things together.
		But a few months ago, I guess there were a few things to comment on.
		This is pretty much off of everything you've been talking about, but you talked about broadcasting by now the general public.
		I guess for lack of a better term, maybe we call it amateur broadcasting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pirate radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, until it is declared to be legal, it is pirate radio.
unidentified		Right, right, yeah, exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what about it?
unidentified		You brought up the fact that, well, I guess I've been saying for ten years Or more that we ought to have this.
		You know, that the individuals have individual people have the right to broadcast.
		You know, because certainly we have freedom of the press and freedom of expression and freedom of the press certainly is radio, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I take a middle position, all right?
		In other words, for the sake of proper information dissemination, I don't want to see complete anarchy either in the AM or FM bands.
		However, having said that, I think there are a lot of areas where FM allocations could be given small, low-power FM allocations in the present band.
		I think that the Federal Communications Commission could consider an area, for example, just above the present band in the expansion area where people could be allowed to put small low-power stations on the air.
		And I am a supporter.
unidentified		Yeah, I agree with you there.
		Another, I guess I have a question.
		First of all, in your book, is your book going to be available on audio tape?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Eventually.
		Okay.
		That's an honest answer.
		In other words, you know, writing a book is an incredible process.
unidentified		Yeah, correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It takes a lot out of you.
		And so when you get one done, it's hard to consider another project right away.
		So that's my answer.
unidentified		Eventually.
		Another thing you mentioned, your show is going to be starting an hour earlier.
		Correct.
		Now, like, I listened back here on WTAM or WLS, whichever one happens to come in better, and I'm here in southern Minnesota that carries it to be here.
		And so are they going to be starting an hour earlier, too, or how are they going to do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not about the two specific stations, TAM and the mighty TAM and the Mighty WLS.
		I really can't answer whether they will begin doing that right away or will do it after a while.
		You know, it's on a case-by-case basis.
		In other words, stations have obligations.
		They're going to try to run it earlier, but contractual things sometimes take time, so it could be two or three months, or it could happen right away.
		I don't know to answer your question.
		I'm sorry, I don't.
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		Well, I won't keep you.
		And the weather is certainly changing.
		We have had an unsmooth transition from winter to spring.
		It's just not happening very fast around here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I hear that.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yep, it's changing, all right.
		Sure, it is.
		Now, you can imagine it to be a spike, an abnormally high spike in one direction or the other.
		You know, that the weather is cyclical and that we are just experiencing an abnormally strong spike of violent weather.
		Or you may conclude that we are in the birth pangs of a permanent change, or at least as far as the short life of human beings is concerned, a permanent change.
		I am beginning to believe the latter.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Scott from Silver City, New Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hi there.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		I talked to you a couple of weeks ago about a heart transplant change of personality.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A change of heart, I think it's called.
		Actually, there is a book called Change of Heart, and I'm trying to get hold of the lady who wrote that book.
		I want to talk to her.
unidentified		I see.
		Well, I had a couple of things I wanted to mention this time, different.
		One about how the pyramids were possibly built.
		Back in 1980, I read an article in the San Francisco Chronicle.
		It talked about a French chemist who literally got a chip off of one of the old blocks there in Egypt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea how illegal that is?
		I mean, to take any artifact away from Giza, I don't know what they do to you for doing that, but probably I don't want to know.
		You know, they take a body part of yours as a souvenir.
unidentified		I'm not sure what he lost in trade for this.
		Maybe they even gave it to him for research.
		I'm not sure.
		But the point was that he took it back to his laboratory and dissolved it in some sort of acid solution.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And at the bottom of the beaker, there was an inch-long human hair.
unidentified		And it cleaned the thing off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		And his only conclusion was that the hair had to have been inside the block, the piece of liquid.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the only way that it could get inside the block would be that the block was molten at some point.
unidentified		That would have probably melted the hair.
unidentified		No, he surmised that it was actually poured like concrete.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I meant when I said molten.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Yes, liquid, and he was able to figure out which minerals and whatnot could be used to do this and said that people probably just brought the raw materials in baskets and made a mold and poured them in place.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's certainly possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that theory, and it makes sense, I think, to me.
unidentified		Well, it did, you know, and that was 15, 17 years ago, and I've never heard a thing about it since then.
unidentified		So I was just kind of curious to see whether you'd heard of that or not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had heard of it, yes, and it is indeed very interesting.
		I am so looking forward.
		Actually, you know, we've got two cruises coming up.
		One of them is going to Alaska in August, and that one's coming up pretty quickly now, and the other is going to Egypt and Rome and Greece and the Greek islands.
		And the first cruise to Alaska is going to be August 23rd.
		And I think we have one opening there.
		And the second cruise to Egypt is October 1st.
		So if you would like to come along on either one or both, do you know there are actually some people coming on both of our cruises?
		I'm going to give you the number now you can call To ensure that you do come along.
		And the way it's working now is both of these cruises are full.
		However, having said that, I think there might be one or two openings in each one at the moment.
		Now, that occurs as people book and then decide, and then something happens.
		You know, they become ill or they decide I can't do that or I have another obligation.
		So we're trying to keep you informed as time marches on.
		And inevitably it does.
		So if you would like to come along on either one of our absolutely incredible cruises, one to Alaska, one to Greece and Rome and Egypt and the pyramids, you need to call the following number after 8 o'clock in the morning Pacific time.
		It's 1-800.
		Oh, God.
		What is it?
unidentified		1-8-0 number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have forgotten the number for the cruise.
		Oh, no.
		Let's see.
		1-800.
		I've forgotten the number.
		I know the last four, 71.
		Oh, but I just went through all that, and I have forgotten the number.
		That's real bad news.
		Well, you know, I have so many 800 numbers that I just simply can't remember them all.
		And I certainly don't want to give out the wrong one, so I was really dumb.
		I forgot the number.
		All right, so I'll dig the number out and put it on here after the top of the hour.
		Anyway, so if that number, maybe it's good.
		If that's a number that you have been waiting for, go and get a pencil and a piece of paper, and after the top of the hour, I will give that number out.
		The number for the two cruises, that's absolutely amazing.
		That's just great.
		Do a whole promo, get down to the critical moment, depend on your memory, and there it goes.
		Thank you, Terrence McKenna.
		By the way, we're going to replay that program this weekend.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		You can dance, you can die.
		Having the time on the fly.
		Ooh, see that girl.
		Watch that sea.
		Dig it, see that sea.
		Shining eyes and the lights are low.
		Looking out for a place to go.
		Whether play the right music.
		Getting in the swing.
		You come to look for a king.
		Anybody could be.
		My mind.
		And more than noon.
		I'm holding deep surrender.
		Oh, yeah.
		And I have met my destiny.
		In quite a single place.
		The mystery broke on the shelf.
		The song was repeating itself.
		For you.
		I was defeating you on the floor.
		Premier Network presents Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And very embarrassing.
		Short-term memory lapse, no doubt.
		I advertised the fact that we might have an opening or two on our cruises coming up before the hour.
		And I got to the bottom line.
		You know, the place where you close the deal.
		And you're sitting there thinking, yeah, I might want to go to Alaska.
		I might want to go to Rome and the Greek Isles and Egypt and all of that.
		23rd to Alaska.
		October 1st to Egypt.
		And then I forgot the phone number.
		So, here it is.
		You can call after 8 o'clock in the morning.
		There's one or two openings in each one of those cruises, and that's about all.
		And so I sort of let you know about them as they occur.
		If you want to come along, it's going to be a blast.
		You know, we have meetings and autograph things and photographs and all of that.
		But most of all, they are luxurious, incredible, hamper-me cruises.
unidentified		The End You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art, what is going on with the FBI website situation?
		Can you talk about it?
		Chris in Little Rock, Arkansas, listening to KARN.
		P.S. We're all listening to you all night long from the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
		All right.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll talk about anything.
		I don't care.
		Keith, and it was really quite effective.
		Keith Rowland decided that it would be a humorous thing, following the Heavensgate business, to put up a April 1st, he put up an apparent, I'm sure a lot of you saw it, an apparent notice from the FBI, which was a joke.
		It was only a joke, you know, that the website had been shut down.
		And he had a modified FBI seal up there.
		And they didn't like it at all.
		And so they fired a letter at us.
		The FBI wrote a letter To the actually Myron McLeod, who at the time was listed as the administrator.
		I think I am now, so I would have received this if they had the updated information.
		But the letter from the FBI, let me see.
		I'm not going to read it on the air.
		I'll tell you what.
		Keith has put it up on the website.
		So now, see, here's another reason why you need Web TV.
		I'm telling you right now, those of you who don't have Web TV, you're crazy.
		Web TV is wonderful.
		It's easy.
		One button, boom, and you're on the web.
		Anyway, right now on my website, if you will click on FBI, Can't Take an April Fool's Joke, we have indeed done as they have requested.
		Of course, you do, you know, Justice Department, right?
		So we have taken down the joke, which was still visible if you knew where to go.
		And that's all gone.
		But we have posted the FBI letter to our website.
		It's up there right now under the category of under latest news and items, FBI can't take an April Fool's joke.
		And so there's quite a bit of new stuff up there.
		You might take a look.
		It's www.artbell.com.
		So yeah, sure, I can talk about it.
		And the other item that I'm talking about, and then we're back to open lines here, is revenge.
		Somebody sent me a fax late yesterday morning that hit me pretty hard, and I'm willing to talk about it.
		It says, hi, Art.
		I heard you say the other night that you are Christian.
		Well, all right.
		Call me then not a Christian, if you wish.
		I'm not really sensitive about whether you think I am or not.
		I don't care.
		I believe in a creator.
		I believe Jesus walked on earth, you know.
		But I don't buy everything sold by every organized religion out there.
		Anyway, he goes on, I also just heard your comments on revenge.
		Not consistent, Art.
		The essence of Christ's message is forgiveness.
		Sincerely, Mike in Campbell, California.
		And I am not one who forgives.
		I get revenge.
		I am a revengeful person.
		Now, I want to be very careful to separate that from a vengeful person.
		I don't go out and initiate, I don't go out and pick fights, but I don't run away from them either.
		And if somebody does something to me, you better stand back because I'm coming after you.
		I've been that way all my life, and I'm never going to change.
		And if that means I'm not a Christian, then I guess I am not a Christian.
		That was from Mike in Campbell, California.
		So there you are, Mike.
		And I thought it worth talking about.
		Hi, Art.
		Here's another one.
		Your comments were great.
		It reminded me of a story of a spiritual master telling a student that he's completed freedom to do whatever he wants.
		The student then adds, as long as it doesn't hurt another.
		The master disappears for a while, then unknown to the student, the master appears as a vampire.
		The vampire approaches, I haven't read this yet, and requests blood from the spiritual student.
		He, of course, is very scared and tells the vampire, come any closer, and he will do the vampire great harm.
		He grabs a weapon and is about to attack the vampire.
	Vampire then says, quote, it will hurt me if you don't give me your blood, end quote.
	The student will have no part of this and is ready to do great harm to the vampire.
	The student learned that others can always be harmed by your actions.
	Whether you don't give blood to a vampire or don't give all of your earnings to the starving, every action can be looked upon as harming another.
	We have freedom to do anything.
	But as you stated, the law of karma, action-reaction applies.
	For every action, there is an equal, an opposite one that takes place.
	Plant love and it grows.
	Plant hate and it grows.
	Feed parasites and they grow.
unidentified		Hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, Mark.
		And so my creed is do unto others as they do unto you.
		Or perhaps if you consider karma, and there are a lot of people who think that if somebody does something bad to you, it will come back and haunt them times four, five, ten, whatever.
		I say help karma out.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, Art.
		This is Rick and Tacoma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Rick.
unidentified		Good show.
unidentified		Thanks for keeping me awake on the night shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what we're here for, I guess.
		That and coffee.
		Have you seen the price of coffee lately?
unidentified		Don't touch the stuff.
		Oh, my gosh.
		Cherry Coke is my vice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just what's the difference between that and coffee?
unidentified		Do you know how much caffeine is in that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Taste all right, but you use the same thing.
unidentified		Sure.
		It's not the caffeine that bothers me, it's the taste of coffee.
		I've never been able to get past that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's an acquired taste.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Acquired by, I might add, by millions, and now it's getting really expensive.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Starbucks just jacked theirs up, I noticed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's unbelievable.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Anywho, a prediction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I like predictions.
unidentified		The McVay thing goes to jury tomorrow morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		There will be a verdict before the end of the weekend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd say that's a pretty good prediction.
		There might even be a verdict.
		There might even be a verdict before the end of the day.
unidentified		I'd be almost willing to put money on that, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So we'll see.
		But juries are strange things, and you never know.
		And the difference here is from the outside and the way the press has been reporting this story, I think you would have to conclude that they're going to come back with a guilty verdict.
unidentified		I have no doubt of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		However, without having been able to see the proceedings unfold, there may be something we don't know, and I don't trust the larger press anymore completely.
unidentified		This is also true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you just never know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With that little caveat, yeah, I think it's going to come back quick, too.
unidentified		And also, a quick suggestion for a guest, I think, would be Really good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you can get a hold of Tom Clancy, Tom Clancy promised me an interview.
		In fact, I need to send him some email.
		He said when he finished his last book, he'd do an interview with me.
		Hey, Tom!
unidentified		Which is good reading, by the way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Tom!
unidentified		His latest book is worth getting a hold of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big Clancy fan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thank you, sir.
unidentified		Welcome.
		Thank you.
		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, hey, Tom.
		Remember your email?
		You said you'd be a guest.
		You said you couldn't do it while you were writing the book because you didn't want to really have to concentrate on the book.
		Remember, Tom?
		So, come on, Tom.
		Take a few minutes out late at night and come be a guest.
		We would like to talk to you.
		I love what he does.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		This is Jimmy up in Tamasket, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
unidentified		I'd like to tell you something that he talked about.
unidentified		Years ago, I worked in Vegas at the old Hughes Terminal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And when the charters would come in from Europe, they'd bring in milk, and it'd be in triangular, pyramid-shaped cartons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And they said that was to preserve them.
		Even the little creamers were that way.
		I was just wondering, that's maybe those flowers that you advertise in triangular boxes.
		That's why they do that.
		To keep them fresh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will ask Dexter Yard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pyramid power.
unidentified		Right.
		That's exactly all the milk cartons.
		Even the quartz would be in a pyramid-shaped carton.
		And I asked one of the stewardesses, I said, what are they for?
		She said, that keeps them fresh.
		They just throw them in boxes and a certain amount of them will stay fresher.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really appreciate that.
		Thank you.
		There is, I think, no doubt that there is something to that.
		Now, I don't know.
		Well, it's one of the great mysteries of all of life, isn't it?
		The pyramids.
		How they were built.
		Why they are there.
		What they mean.
		And they are, you know, Giza, there's no question, is a very special place on the planet.
		I am really, really looking forward to going there.
		Art, you are correct when you mentioned those poor people in Texas affected by that tornado.
		I do wonder, though, how something as this occurs, how anyone could believe in a God, the one entity who supposedly, who supposedly could have prevented this disaster.
		It's just one example that makes me such an avid atheist.
		Ooh, it's Mark, the atheist in Louisiana.
		Well, Mark, I'm not sure that God's in the business of preventing the day-to-day occurrences here on earth or perpetrating them.
		And when he instilled free will, he probably gave something of the very same sort to Mother Nature and to Earth itself.
		And it is not inconsistent to believe, at least as far as I am concerned, that what we are doing is provoking a change or a quickening.
		Mark, so even as a disbeliever in God, and you leap, I know, on every opportunity to say that, you know, when somebody is killed or a child dies, Mark writes to me and says, there is no God.
		You see, you see, you see, he says, there is no God.
		I just don't look at it that way.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Austin from Kansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'm really glad to be back on the road again where I can listen to you tonight.
unidentified		I've enjoyed your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And I also wanted to...
		And I do well side geology.
		I sit down when we drill the wells and look at the cuttings and evaluate.
		And that one year that I spent that two months gone 266 days.
		She delivered at a given time at 1.30 p.m., I think.
		Yeah, in the afternoon.
		I called her about a quarter till two, and she's crying.
		And I'm thinking, oh, wow, what's happened now?
		And I finally got her before she could talk to me.
		Oh, this is so beautiful that it blew me away.
		You know, just powers, a simple gesture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I try to tell people that's how women react.
unidentified		It's a guaranteed fact, and we've done that since then with other people to just a pleasant surprise away us.
		They say, hey, we think about you.
		And here's something beautiful for you.
		And it's amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I sincerely appreciate that, and it's a better advertisement than I could ever do.
unidentified		Well, thank you, sir.
		But I do enjoy your show and the six-legged frogs.
		I live along Crooked Creek in Mead County, Kansas, and we found some school kids found some six-legged frogs back in the fall.
		I was going to fax you the article, and then I got shifted where I stayed on Rome, so I did not want to use my cell phone to fax through.
		But I've got an overflow pond for my windmill that's full of polywogs, and I'm eagerly awaiting their maturity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, good luck to you, sir, in your endeavor.
		And the way things are going these days, I think you won't have a problem.
		You'll probably find them.
		Some of these deformities are very serious.
		Very, very serious.
		And the ones that worry me the most are the ones now being reported in the Antarctic regarding the singular or simple-celled creatures, which are showing not just physical deformities, but actual genetic change.
		There really is a big, there's a gulf a mile wide between deformity problems that you can argue might be parasites and genetic change that is produced by increased ultraviolet Radiation, in all probability, that is something you had better think about really, really hard.
		I have been.
		It is part of what I call the quickening.
		And I wrote a lot about it in there.
		So, again, if, you know, they're going like hotcakes now.
		They're going like crazy.
		The second printing is here, is being shipped now.
		In other words, if you call and ship the book now, and you can still get an autographed copy of The Quickening if you want one, for now.
		And I'm going to stop this soon because a hand can only take so much.
		But if you want an autographed copy, a first edition autographed copy, we're ready to ship it.
		The number is 1-800-864-7991.
		It's a very important book.
		And you know, so far, I've had a lot of good reaction and good reviews on the book, but what I have not had is what I expected was a lot of anger.
		And I think the reason that I haven't had a lot of anger yet is because you cannot refute facts.
		While there is some fiction in the book that I wrote, usually at the beginning of the chapter, to illustrate where we think this particular condition is leading, human condition or environmental condition, while there is some fiction which makes it very interesting, there is also a wealth of factual material that is backed up.
		And I think the reason that so far I have not experienced a lot of anger in response is because it's very hard to be angry when you're reading facts, when you can't deny them, when the sources are listed.
		And that's the case in my book.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hey, Art.
		This is Chris in Atlanta.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WGST.
unidentified		Yeah, real happy you were here.
		I used to have to kind of juggle in Cleveland.
		I was just interested in alternative health, and I was just wondering about a couple of guests.
		I wonder if you ever had.
		Have you ever had Patrick Flanagan on before?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Familiar name, but I don't think so.
unidentified		Patrick was one of these guys that like at 17 was experimenting with rockets and that kind of thing.
unidentified		And he invented like a neurophone, which bypassed the hearing process.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he sounds like my kind of guy.
unidentified		Send a square wave directly to the brain.
		The same kind of thing is about Andrejay Puharich.
		Have you ever had him on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but look, I'm willing to entertain, and as you must know by now, even in the short time listening there, I'll have anybody on the air.
unidentified		Is there interesting?
		He's in somewhere around Sedona.
		And the other guy is Christopher Hills.
		Since the other night you were talking a lot, I think it was Wayne Green, you got to talking about consciousness.
		And I believe from everybody I've read about Dr. Hills knows more about consciousness than anybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here's what I would ask.
		Thank you very much.
		And I'm glad to have them on.
		But help me out, if you would, please.
		And here's what I'm asking.
		I'm asking that if you want to guess on, I'm happy to have them on, but, and it's a big but.
		If you have any contact information for them, please send that along as well.
		Because trying to track somebody down just with a name, without a publisher, without some kind of contact number, let me tell you, that's a rough road to host.
		So if anybody has any contact information, please include that.
unidentified		This is Premier Networks.
		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
		Oh, oh, oh.
		Leave me this away.
		I can't survive.
		I can't save my life without your love.
		Oh, baby, don't leave me this away.
		I can't expect...
		Ah!
		I see trees of green, red roses, too.
		I see them blue for me.
		And I think to myself, What a wonderful world I see skies of blue,
		the colours of white, the bright blessed day darks say good night, and I think to myself, What a wonderful world The colours of the rainbow so pretty in the sky of also
		Also on the faces of people going by, I see friends shaking hands, saying, how do you do?
		They're really saying, I don't know.
		I hear babies cry.
		I watch them grow.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		to Coast AM from May 29th 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, I love this song.
		I really do.
		Ran at the end of 12 Monkeys and ever since then.
		Good morning, everybody.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bell East of the Rockies, you're on the air, top of the morning.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Art Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I don't believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're going to have to try.
unidentified		I have a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, where are you first?
unidentified		This is Michael from Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		When you had, was it Major Ed Dames?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And you were talking and said he had a tape about remote viewing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Do you know anything about that?
unidentified		When it's going to put it out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know that it was supposed to be out by now.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I got a letter from him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you got a letter?
unidentified		Yeah, he said it was supposed to be out in April.
unidentified		And I haven't heard anything since April.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		So it was delayed.
		I know that.
		I'll try and contact Ed or Ed send me something telling me when it is going to be out, and I'll put out the information.
unidentified		Those guys out here at work, we work shipped work.
		We all went in together and bought the first tape.
		We were still waiting on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to ask you a question.
unidentified		Surely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let us presume that you get the tape and you become proficient in remote viewing.
		Let's say it's able to do that for you.
		What are you going to do with the technology?
unidentified		I have no earthly idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's what scares me.
unidentified		Yeah, I understand that.
		I listen to your show all the time, and I listened to that show that night.
		And it just really interested me that somebody could do something like that.
		I know.
		I don't have any idea what I would do with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then do this for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		After you get the tape, and if you're able to do it, call me and tell me what you did with it.
unidentified		Surely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, we'll get word from Ed, and when I do, I will get it on the air.
unidentified		Huh.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've wondered about that.
		All of those remote viewers out there, all of those disembodied people floating about looking at this and that.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Yeah, good morning, all right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Well, I figured out why Clinton, Gore, and Bush agree with giving Red China first-class trade status.
		Why?
		Because they are jealous that Red China has slave labor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't agree with that.
unidentified		It sure seems that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't agree with it.
		And look, I don't think that including China as a preferred trading partner means that they're jealous of slave labor.
		There is slave labor in China.
		I'm not naive.
		As a matter of fact, I was there.
		As a matter of fact, let me tell you a little story about China.
		We had a, you know, when you're in communist China, and I was, they provide you with a tour guide.
		A state tour guide, okay?
		You know, and they provide you with two or three people who are on the tour who are working for the state, if you follow me.
		So they monitor very carefully what's going on.
		And I sat up at the front of the bus with the state tour guide, you know, who had a microphone.
		And he was answering questions as we were on our way further and further into inland China, mainland China.
		And I asked him, is it true or is it not that prisoners in China are forced to make products?
		That there is forced labor.
		And he stopped for a moment.
		Everybody on the bus with me will remember this.
		And he said, oh, no.
		Oh, no, not in China.
		He said, the only kind of work that prisoners do is what they volunteer for.
		You know, and I kept looking for where the microphone was because there was one there somewhere.
		And so once he answered that question that way, I just gave up.
		I mean, I realized I was going to get the state line from then on in.
		Oh, no, only volunteers.
		You know, people who volunteer their kidneys on request and that sort of thing.
		Volunteers.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art Tim in Denver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Tim.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing fine.
unidentified		I've got just a couple announcements about the Art Bell Chat Club, if I may.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Cells, the Cults.
unidentified		The Cells, the Cults.
		First of all, we have a new toll-free number.
		If anyone is interested in contacting us, it's absolutely free now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a toll-free number now?
		We sure do.
		That means you've come up in the world.
unidentified		We've come up just a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is this toll-free number?
unidentified		Okay, Art, it's 1-800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've got an 800 number?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see you get those anymore.
unidentified		Actually, I was very lucky.
		They had just a couple 888 numbers, but I did get an 800 number for the club, 881-4515.
		1-800-881-4515.
		And this will get you information for any of our Art Bell chat clubs, San Antonio, Austin, Sarasota, Florida, or the main club here in Denver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or if you want to form your own cell.
unidentified		Exactly.
		If you'd like to form your own club, we have clubs starting all over the country.
		There might be a club in your area already forming and just hasn't got to the stage where they're having their first meeting yet.
		But I do want to thank Keith Rowland.
		He's put us up front on the webpage and did a terrific write-up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's great.
unidentified		Keith is great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you read the FBI thing, by the way, Tim?
unidentified		I sure did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess they really can't take a joke, huh?
unidentified		No, they sure can't.
		And if I can, Lynn Buchanan and his staff, the remote viewer, I want to thank them for contacting me about his presentation.
		He's going to be in Denver in July.
		And we're working on possibly getting together with Mr. Buchanan.
		And also people at Llewellyn Press and Publications up in St. Paul.
		Maynard Freese Up there has been giving me lists and lists of speakers that are just absolutely very interested in coming together.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is actually why I support what you're doing, Tim.
		As I've told you on the air before, I don't want Art Bell fan clubs to hell with that.
		I don't need them.
		But you know, the way you're doing it is the right way.
		You're forming these clubs, and then you're having people come and talk to you about the things we talk about on the air.
		Now, to me, that makes sense.
		And I really like it, so I hope it continues to grow.
unidentified		All right, so the 800 number, 1-800-881-4515.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you can either find out if there is a club in your area, A, or B, how to form one, huh?
unidentified		Exactly.
		And one more thing.
		I've got to thank Bob and Sue Crane.
		They have been terrific.
		They've been supporting the chat clubs.
		They advertise in our newsletter.
		I can call Sue up and say, Sue, I need two dozen catalogs because we have new clubs forming.
		And we have C-Crane catalogs.
		Of course, we have past publications of your newsletter.
		If people would like to take a gander at it, see exactly what kind of information is available.
		We have your books available.
		That's the kind of thing, our brochures to Alaska, I try to keep those stocked up.
		So if a person hasn't had an opportunity to get that kind of information, we have them available at the clubs, and we kind of keep that kind of stuff stocked.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be the Art Belt paraphernalia.
unidentified		The Art Belt paraphernalia.
		But Bob and Sukaine have been terrific, and I want to thank them.
		And again, thanks to Keith Rowland for all his help.
		And thanks to you, Art, because we couldn't have done this without your support, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		And again, take care, Tim.
		The reason you got it is because of the way you're doing it.
		I really don't want fan clubs out there.
		I really don't.
		I think it's kind of dumb anyway.
		And I don't even know what you'd do in a fan club.
		However, to be dealing with the material that we deal with on this program, now you're dealing in substance, and I think it's a really, really good idea.
		And it does seem to turn out that a lot of the people that come on the program end up going and doing presentations in person at these so-called chat clubs.
		And so that's valuable.
		I mean, that's really neat, I think.
		Okay, so again, the number is 1-800-881-4515.
		Neat.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		How's it going tonight?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going along just fine.
unidentified		That's good.
unidentified		This is Alice in Calwick, Washington.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I was wondering if you'd heard anything lately from Gordon Michael Scallion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got a message into Gordon right now.
		Gordon is not doing much in public, period.
		So when he decides to become public, he will be here.
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He promises me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But Gordon is a very unusual person, ma'am, and he goes through long periods where what he has done affects him physically and psychologically.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's all I can tell you.
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		Well, that's what I wanted to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When I know, I guarantee you, you will know.
unidentified		Well, good.
		Good.
		Well, we love your show.
		Keep up the good work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Thanks, Aye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		Yes, you will know when I know.
		Wildcard line, you're on air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello, Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn the radio off, please.
unidentified		Well, okay, I'm using a ghetto blaster tonight.
unidentified		Normally, I do use a vacuum tube receiver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You will then turn off the ghetto blaster.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
unidentified		Like I say, normally I'm an electronics buff and I build kind of stuff.
unidentified		I usually do a National SW3, which is a 1933 regenerative receiver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A National SW3.
unidentified		Tonight, I'm using a $70 AY ghetto blaster because, very frankly, I'm in the other room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, pun intended, sir, whatever gets you through the night.
unidentified		There you go.
unidentified		I wanted to ask you about something that I think was pretty...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And not to divert from that, I went to see a band called The Jazz Passengers here about three months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		This being a group that they're a jazz group from New York, and they make a long story short, they got Deborah Harry singing with them nowadays.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah, she does.
unidentified		And you know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Just as it happens, as I was walking past there, there was some flowers for sale.
		I thought, you know, on the off chance that I'd get in to, you know, actually, you know, give talk to her or something like that, I just bought one.
		And I got in there and wound up the place wasn't terribly packed.
		They did the show, which they were very good, by the way.
		And so afterwards, I'm about ready to walk out, and there's this huge commotion, and she's over there on the stage signing autographs.
		I walk up there and quietly queue up, you know, and there's all these people.
		And anyways, I give her this flower, and she just, oh, she went nuts.
		She loved it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there you are.
unidentified		These females just love them flowers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, Deborah Harris, she's a cutie.
unidentified		She's a good-looking guy.
unidentified		She's not a teenager anymore, I must tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, well, you know, it passes.
unidentified		Yeah, she's, when I was in high school, and that was a long time ago, she was a big thing.
		And so I finally got to meet her and talked to her, and she was pretty intelligent.
		She's into some of the things that you talk about on the show.
		I've read her book, the one she did with Chris Stein and the other guy.
		And she's into the various things that I guess art bellion-type material.
		Is that a fair term?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art Bellian-type material?
		I don't know.
		Thank you.
		Artbellian-type material.
		Let me think about that.
		It's just material.
		It just happens to be I'm the one who is pressing investigation into these matters.
		Bellian material.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		I'm the Sprett calling from Ohio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I can't believe I got on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody seems to say that.
unidentified		Well, you've got so many affiliates on the eastern half of the U.S. now that it's pretty tough for us to get through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is certainly true, but at least you have your own separate line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if you didn't.
unidentified		Right, right.
		Okay, well, a couple of things I want to talk about.
		A couple weeks you were talking about movies that you watch over and over again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And the movie that I love to watch over and over again is Braveheart with Mel Gibson.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's definitely in that category.
unidentified		Yeah, it's the best.
		I believe it's the best movie I've ever seen.
		I also want to talk to you about the Oklahoma bombing.
		Okay.
		There's a guy that you know.
		His name is Bob Fletcher.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would be the Montana militia, or at least he was.
unidentified		Yeah, he's formerly with the Montana Militia.
unidentified		He did a video, or he's in possession of a video I haven't seen it yet, where he says that the video contains footage of him taking two more bombs out of the building after the blast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that I haven't seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly clearly recall after the initial blast, I sat there like everybody else watching on CNN as they cleared city blocks around because they said they had located more bombs inside.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you examine the structural nature of the damage and try to compare it to the crater and other aspects of the explosion, not everything adds up, and there may well have been something inside.
		Now, does that lead where Mr. Fletcher might imagine it leads or not?
		I don't know that proves that.
		In other words, who put them there?
unidentified		Okay, well, there were some real quick points here that I want to point out that it doesn't seem like it's ever been brought up on your show, is that that truck bomb that went off, I mean, it's way too small to do the damage to that building that was done to it.
unidentified		I mean, if you're going to have a blast that's going to take down this part of a building like that did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but see, what you're saying is where Fletcher no doubt was trying to lead, and that is that the government planted its own explosives, and I'm not buying that for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think there may have been more explosives involved, and we may never be able to prove one way or the other whether there were or not.
unidentified		Okay, well, that's one of the things I wanted to point out here is that the ATF, all the ATF guys, they were cleared out of that building.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not a true statement.
		It is not.
		There were a majority who were out for a function, but there were ATF that were in that building, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, and they lied about where they were, too, because their stories never checked out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, look, the statements you're making, you're misleading people.
		You're saying all the ATF were gone.
		No, they weren't.
unidentified		Well, one of them claimed to be in an elevator, but they could never come up with enough evidence that that was really true.
		And also, there are a lot of lawsuits.
		People that lost relatives in that bombing, they have lawsuits against the government because they knew about it in advance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, prove it.
unidentified		Well, I know, but I'm saying that these attorneys would not be filing lawsuits against the government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, baloney.
		Attorneys will file lawsuits against anybody you pay them to file lawsuits against.
		Give me a break.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, the truck that Tim McVay rented was not the truck that blew up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The evidence is to the contrary again, I'm sorry.
unidentified		Also, one last thing I want to get in is that there was a woman that had a lot of Howell was her last name.
		Have you heard about this?
		She was supposed to defense attorneys wanted her to testify, and naturally the judge would not let her testify.
		Why?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With respect to?
unidentified		Because she had a lot of information about who really did the bombing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, so it is said.
		Look, I was not in the courtroom.
		You were not in the courtroom.
		Cameras were not in the courtroom.
		So this is a whole bunch of second-guessing as far as I'm concerned.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		He was looking for a soul to steal.
		He was in a bind because he was way behind.
		He was willing to make a deal.
		When he came across this young man selling on a fiddle and playing it hot, and the devil jumped up on a hickering stump and said, Boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
		And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
		Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
		I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul because I think I'm better than you.
		The boy said, my name's Johnny.
		Now, we take you back to the past on Arkbell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Thought I'd warm it up a little bit.
		Soap and lines all morning long, folks.
		Anything you want to do is fair game under the moonlight.
unidentified		Music.
unidentified		I don't do dedications, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Buzz for Rosalie.
unidentified		Give me all that you need.
		Wrap your love up around me.
		So excited, I can feel you getting hotter.
		Oh, baby.
		Well, you're gonna like this one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Scientists, this is the Associated Press folks.
		Scientists have managed to insert a large chunk of human DNA into mice.
		They call it an astonishing breakthrough that will allow a new generation of research into genes, birth defects, and genetic diseases.
		And of course, that is the upside.
		The downside?
		Well, I'm sure it couldn't happen, but imagine the horror of a human face and a mouse body.
unidentified		Oh, my love.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonder what a cat would think of that.
unidentified		Ha, ha, ha, ha.
		Ha, ha, ha.
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go again.
		East of the Rockies, you are upon the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello.
		Going once, going twice.
		Gone.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, all right.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		Yes, all right.
		Yes.
		I'm calling on behalf of my father who wants to know about rods.
		If you have any information on rods, he hasn't heard about it in quite a while.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Jose Escamilia is the rod guy, and we'll have him back on the air pretty soon.
		Is there any new information on rods?
		Yes, there is.
		And Jose has it, and I will have Jose Escimelia back on the air in due time, and there will be more on rods.
unidentified		Okay.
		One more question.
		Sure.
		About your bumper music?
		Making any requests?
		Do you have to get permission for that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm always willing to consider, but pretty much what I do is just I play stuff that I like.
unidentified		Really?
		Well, that's the best.
		I guess that's the best bet then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you know, I mean, what are you talking about here?
unidentified		Spacey music.
unidentified		We need some spacey music, brother.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Spacey music.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't know.
		There's a bunch of stuff out there.
		I'm just wondering if you maybe would accept a tape or something like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, always.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I don't guarantee to play it.
		Thank you.
		There's a guy really angry with me right now because I won't play a song.
		And, you know, I accept submissions, but that doesn't automatically mean I'm going to play it.
		And people, you know, I guess they're under the misimpression that if they send something, it's automatically going to get played.
		That's just not true.
		If I really like a piece of music, I play it.
		If I don't, I don't.
		And if that drives you to distraction and anger, I don't in any way mean to insult you.
		You know, years ago, I did music radio.
		I was a music director at one time.
		And you pick music according to your music taste buds.
		That's all.
		And just because I don't pick it doesn't mean it isn't good, and you shouldn't be insulted.
		It just means that it didn't strike a chord with me.
		But I'll listen.
		You bet.
		West of the Rockies, you're on there.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hey, whatever happened to your Levatron commercials?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're on Dreamland.
unidentified		Oh, they're on Dreamland?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, right now, Levatron's running on Dreamland, but Levatron is still absolutely available.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I got one.
unidentified		It took me a while to get it going.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much frustration did you experience?
unidentified		Well, I can get it flying if someone else can spin it for me.
		I just can't spin it.
		You think only women can spin it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that they've got an automatic spinner?
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little thing you just put in and you punch it and it spins it.
unidentified		Oh, that's what I have to get, then.
unidentified		See, there you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ask and you shall receive.
unidentified		You know, I had a question about your first sighting, your triangle sighting.
		Yes.
		Now, do you remember details of how it looked or was it just smooth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I will never forget any detail of that, sir.
unidentified		What do you mean, like the details on the outside of the ship?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The craft was solid black.
		It was against a clear night with a nearly full moon.
		And although I can't say that I saw windows and guys waving, I clearly saw the skin of the craft.
		I mean, it was that close.
		Wow.
		It was right over my head.
		I mean, we're talking classic stars go away, moon goes away, craft passes directly over you.
		Serious, serious encounter.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I've seen several of those out in the Anzo-Barrego desert, but they're usually pretty high up.
unidentified		Oh, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This one was low, slow, and deadly silent.
unidentified		So when it passed over you, I mean, did you have any time loss or anything?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny you should mention that.
		None that I know of, but I was in such a state.
		Even with my second sighting, same deal.
		I was in such a...
		It's like...
		I can't even describe it to you.
		You just, everything stops, so I'm not exactly sure.
unidentified		Well, maybe some hypnosis or something, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, who knows?
		I mean, nothing that I know of.
		But you must admit, I'm weird.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, you never know.
unidentified		Well, yeah, a lot of people who see things, they remember memory loss or time loss, and these memories start coming back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it'll happen.
		Maybe one night when I'm on the air, I'll start to go, oh, my God, all the needles I remember now.
		Something will key it for me.
unidentified		You could say I didn't ask for the anal probe or something.
unidentified		Please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This conversation is going downhill now.
		Thank you for the call.
		Take care.
		I could make a comment about pretendedness, but I won't.
		Welcome to the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Mr. Bell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have a situation for you that I need to talk about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		My mother is a listener of your show, and not knowing who else to talk to, I thought you might have some answers for me.
		I might.
		I go to a state-run school, a state-run college in California.
		Right.
		And my job is I'm on the work study program, and I do clerical work for the psychology department.
		And I asked for extra hours, and they told me that there weren't any hours available, but that I could earn money doing lab experiments, doing experiments as a subject for the graduate students in experimental psychology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were one of those subjects, or you were employed to do testing on them?
unidentified		No, I was employed as a subject.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a subject.
unidentified		Because I worked within the department just doing clerical testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what pre-tell were they testing?
unidentified		Just doing clerical work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What were they testing?
unidentified		They didn't tell us.
		They told us that each of us was part of one of two groups, and one of us was going to be.
		I mean, they didn't tell us, but I knew the difference.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So each little group got to drink some pink-bubbling juice, and one group just got pink-bubbling tainted juice, while the others, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was pills?
unidentified		Pills.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And I assumed that one group was the placebo group and one group was control, and that's the way it works, yeah.
unidentified		All right, because I work in the department.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and so what do you think happened?
unidentified		Nothing happened for, I'd say, a week.
unidentified		And then it started happening is that every, well, not quite every night, but I'll say every two nights, no, more than that, maybe five or six times a week.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hair began growing on your palms.
unidentified		Actually, I lose hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You lose hours?
unidentified		I lose hours.
		The nights that it generally happens about this time, which is why I wanted to call, around 2 to 3 a.m.
		I don't know.
		I just find myself the next morning, 9, 10.
		I'm not asleep.
		I'll find myself walking around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You said it occurs between 2 and 3?
unidentified		Generally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What time is it there now?
unidentified		It's 2.15, which is why I wanted to call now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it isn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's 4.08.
unidentified		My clock says it's 2.15.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's 4.08.
unidentified		It's 4.08 in California?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, in Nevada.
		Which is the same as California.
		It's happening.
		I'm just kidding, sir.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Oh, you panicked me there for a while.
		I was scared there.
		I thought maybe my clock was in on it, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's still actually coming up on 2.16.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		That's a little better.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How many times have you lost time?
unidentified		Probably 10.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any pills left?
unidentified		No.
		No, we just got it.
		We went in three days in a row, and they gave us two pills each time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		What a cool story.
		So what are you going to do?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know either.
		I don't know what to suggest.
		I don't know what to say.
		With no evidence, with none of the people.
		How about any of the other people that were involved in the experiment?
		Can you get a hold of them?
unidentified		I don't know who else was involved in the experiment because there are no files now.
		At least none that I can find.
		There's nothing in the computer records of these experiments that I was personally involved in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's really intriguing.
		I'm not sure that I would enlist for a specified amount of money to take an unknown something or another, you know, pink bubbling stuff, whatever.
		I don't think so.
		Used to the Rockies?
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Arbell?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
		I guess persistence pays off.
		My name is Dean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Dean.
unidentified		And I'm calling from Bozier City, Louisiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bozier City, Louisiana.
unidentified		Shreport.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And I'm an over-the-road truck driver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		My son got me turned on to you here about three weeks ago, and I guess I've become somewhat of an addict.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if that's good, because that makes people think cult, you know?
		So don't say addict.
		I like the show.
		I enjoy the show.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I love your show, especially the ones with, I can't remember the man's name from Oregon with the UFO listening post.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
		It's Washington.
		You're talking about Peter Davenport for the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have him on.
		You know, when things are popping, Davenport's our guy.
		He sits in the hot seat up there and takes the calls.
		So that's, you know, he gives us the breaking news.
		When it happens, you'll hear it here.
unidentified		Yeah, I really enjoy your shows, especially on those.
unidentified		But I do have one question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		What is your opinion of the not isolationists, but the separationists, like the people from Texas, those that are looking to break away?
unidentified		Yeah, break away, especially from our governments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm glad to give you my take on it, if you'll listen.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, I've got different views on that.
		I am not in sympathy with what they want to do.
		I understand their frustration and their cynicism and why they are feeling the way they feel.
		But deep down, for all its troubles, I still love this country, you know.
		And I still believe in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and all that sort of thing.
		I really, really do.
		And I think that if states or localities began to break away, that it would be the end of all that.
		We are a union.
		And if we begin to do things that destroy and tear apart that union, there may not be another chance for something, flawed though it may be, as good as we have right now.
		So that's my take on it.
		I don't agree with them, but I do understand how they have come to believe as they do.
		I don't know if that answers your question, but that is my opinion.
		In other words, I want the union to remain together.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I have been trying to get a hold of you for about, I think, a year now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A year.
		It's a long time.
		All right, where are you?
unidentified		This is Kim from Medford, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From where?
unidentified		Medford, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Medford, Oregon.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Medford, of course.
unidentified		I wanted to kind of voice my opinion about the gun control thing.
		Sure.
		I heard you mention something about it last night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I asked Wayne Green about it, and he seemed to be generally in favor of gun control.
unidentified		And I guess I'm kind of just the opposite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To me, gun control is a good, steady hand.
unidentified		Yeah, but you know what?
unidentified		If you really think about it, all of the crimes that are caused, you know, by guns?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, they're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're caused by people with guns.
unidentified		Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
		The people who cause a lot of crimes with guns, their guns a lot of times, come from underground anyways.
		They buy them on the black market.
		They don't have them legally registered or anything anyways.
		And the only thing the gun control is going to do is going to monitor more the citizens who are legally getting their guns and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
		That is the traditional view.
		In other words, when we have complete gun control, the saying goes, only the criminals will have guns, and that is absolutely correct.
		Look, this is not, even forget the Bill of Rights.
		We have, in my opinion, a God-given right to protect ourselves with a force equal to that likely to be used against us, and that is lethal force, and we're talking guns here.
		So, as far as I'm concerned, we have a God-given right to have a gun to protect ourselves with if we need it or want it.
		That's all?
unidentified		Definitely.
		Did you hear about the county?
		I can't remember where it is exactly now because it's been a while since I heard about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kennesaw in Georgia, where you have to have a gun, right?
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, and their crime rate is down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
		The rate is also way low in areas that allow, with some training, concealed permits.
		It's undeniable.
		You know, I think conversations about gun control are almost not worth having.
		Almost not worth having.
		And that's an almost because there are so many people pressing for it.
		So it forces the issue.
		But, I mean, to me, it's a no-brainer.
		It's a no-brainer.
		You've got a right to have a gun to protect yourself against somebody who would use that kind of force against you.
		I believe very strongly in that.
		And the only time it's worth arguing is when you have some complete mental midget come and try to argue something else.
		East of the Rockies, you're on air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Amanda from Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
unidentified		Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wisconsin, all right?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I heard your show a couple months ago with Sarah McClendon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Oh, I really liked it.
unidentified		And then I got the chance to meet her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sarah McClendon is something else.
unidentified		Oh, she's amazing.
		She's really funny.
		She's hilarious.
		She's awesome.
		And she mentioned that she was going to be on again.
		Do you know when that is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She said she'd come on anytime I asked her.
		And the cool thing, you know what's really neat about interviewing people like Sarah, it's like interviewing Barry Goldwater and a few other people.
		They're older now.
		They don't give a, you know what, and they'll say whatever's on their mind.
		And those kind of people are really fun to interview.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Yep.
		She was pretty opinionated, but it's great.
		It was a lot of fun getting to talk to her.
		And I only got to talk with her for a little bit, but it was amazing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She is the Duchess.
		I won't say Dean of the White House Press Corps.
		And I will have her on again, you can be sure.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take care.
		Yeah.
		She's a blast.
		I like interviewing people who are out on the edge.
		And Sarah, in her own way, certainly is.
		She asks provocative thorn-in-the-side questions.
		And she does so.
		Yeah, well, she's kind of the female counterpart of Sam Donaldson in some ways.
		I don't know if she'd like that analogy.
		But she is a thorn-in-the-side and proud of it.
		She's really a neat lady.
		Very neat lady.
		You know, she's an original, and I really enjoy interviewing originals.
		There are so many copies out there and so few originals.
		First-time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		I refuse to start out the conversation the way most of your callers do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By saying, how are you?
unidentified		Yes, how are you tonight?
unidentified		Or, I can't believe I finally got through.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is a rare insight for a first-time caller.
unidentified		Well, I'm a first-time caller, but a long-time listener.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Carson City, and that's in Nevada for your out-of-state listeners.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		Yes, it is.
		Listen, a couple of comments.
		First of all, the price of coffee definitely is outrageous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Outrageous.
		I know, and I'm a coffee drinker, and I don't intend to put up with it.
		Now, what can we do?
unidentified		I don't know, but I think it's another one of those syntaxes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean coffee is now going to become sinful?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're probably.
unidentified		Well, there are some people that would tell you it's a sin to drink coffee.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, there's full of it.
unidentified		And speaking of sins, another comment I would like to make, just I'm very disturbed by the gall of some of your listeners who feel that they have the right to call and criticize your spiritual views.
		Oh, they do.
		Well, I know they have the right to do it, but I don't believe that they should be justified in their feeling that they have the right to do that and yet call themselves Christians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They probably all drink coffee.
unidentified		Yes, and on the other hand, you shouldn't have to defend your views in that respect.
unidentified		But that's not why I called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now that is a famous line.
		See, now that's not why I called.
		There is a classic line.
		All right, well, if we're going to find out why you did, you're going to have to hold on because we're at the bottom of the hour.
		That also isn't classic.
		Alright, then, sit tight in Carson City.
unidentified		The trip back in time continues, with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		More Somewhere in Time coming up.
		I don't know.
		You're asking what's going on.
		I don't know.
		Premier Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the program.
		Those of you who join at this hour, anything is possible tonight.
		Anything at all?
		Who knows?
		But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
unidentified		The End You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
unidentified		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Music All right, now, back to That's Not Why I Called, but here she is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why need you call?
unidentified		You are definitely on a roll tonight.
unidentified		No, well, what prompted my call is that you have this lilt in your voice tonight that is more prominent than I've heard before.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lilt?
unidentified		A lilt.
unidentified		Well, for lack of a better word, it may not be that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As in I'm lilting.
unidentified		Well, you're not lilting, no, but you might be lilting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that is true about me.
		I mean, I am pretty much different every night.
		I don't hide my moods and try to be the same every day, or, you know, I'd go crazy.
unidentified		I've noticed that.
		But there was something in your tone tonight that was very reminiscent to me of the way I get when the quickening, so to speak, threatens to overwhelm me.
		And that's what prompted my call because I wanted to tell you that I really appreciate the fact that you wrote that book.
		I haven't gotten it yet.
		I've ordered it, but I haven't gotten it yet.
		But a good number of years ago, I noticed that things were changing and they were changing more rapidly.
		And I started, you know, keeping a journal as I do, I started keeping track of all of these things.
		And when it got to the point where the lists were several pages long, I quit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And then when we finally got into an area where we could pick up your program and you were talking about your book, I thought, isn't that wonderful?
unidentified		I'm not the only one that noticed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And at first, you know, the book came out, the first printing, and I guess I knew it would do well, but I've got to tell you, I was blown away.
		My publisher was blown away.
		Everybody concerned and around it was blown away.
		It went in two weeks.
		And it was ridiculous.
		And it's because it's a mass feeling.
		And a lot of people have not been communicating it to each other.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the minute they hear it described, they go, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's exactly what I feel.
unidentified		That's right.
		That's right.
		It's very real.
		And it needs to be addressed.
		It needs to be acknowledged.
		Because until people acknowledge the fact that we are on a roller coaster ride right now, it's not going to change.
		I don't really think at this point that it is.
		I think it's gone beyond that.
		I think it's a great big pimple getting ready to burst.
		But you know what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not exactly the analogy I would have used, but I think it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I use a little red light in the cockpit, you know, past the point of no return, but it all means the same thing.
unidentified		Well, but you know, once a pimple bursts, it heals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		And I just wanted to lend you a little bit of moral support from the viewpoint of one Who has reason to believe that we should all be willing to see this through because when we get to the other side, I think there's going to be something wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what is going to happen is supposed to happen.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you very much.
		This lady is exactly right.
		I don't know about the lilt I accept that I accept what's happening.
		And I think that clearly, as a society, as a world, we are headed for a change.
		And we are in the midst of that process right now, that which I call the quickening.
		We're in the middle of it.
		And that is what I documented in the book.
		And people keep asking me about things as though I am a prophet, you know, well, what's it going to be?
		When's it going to be?
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I don't know how it is going to manifest itself.
		The remote viewers say there is a point past which they cannot see.
		The Native Americans suggest that Mother Earth will swat us as a horse would a fly from its backside.
		The prophets say various things.
		The religious leaders chime in and sound very much like that as well.
		So from whatever discipline you hear it, those who do project and see know that it is coming.
		I'm not of any of those particular disciplines, so I don't know that.
		What I do know is that the process is underway.
		What I did document and prove in my book is that the process is underway.
		It's happening now.
		It's not in our future.
		It's already occurring.
		And you know it.
		And so do I. I just took the time and trouble to put it all together.
		And again, I say, you know, it's one of those books that you just don't set out to write because you want to write a book.
		Actually, after I wrote my first book, I said, that's it.
		I'm never going to write another book.
		And this one came out of me like a whirlwind.
		It wasn't like I could stop it.
		Do you all know what I mean?
		I couldn't stop it.
		It just came out.
		And that's why it's doing so well.
		Because it has the resonance of truth about it that's undeniable.
		And what I would say to you is that it is a process that I personally believe is now irreversible.
		And it doesn't mean the end of the world.
		It just means that there is a change coming and pretty soon.
		How's that for a timeline, huh?
		You know, they always press the profits.
		Give me a date.
unidentified		Give me a date.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to know when it's going to.
		Pretty soon.
		Answer is pretty soon.
		What it's going to be, I have no idea at all.
		The deal with the book is that the second printing is now selling out.
		Ah, geez.
		I'm very happy about that and happy and sad at the same time.
		I mean, we just got it.
		So what I'm doing until I can't do it anymore is, because everybody wants it, I'm autographing the book.
		Now, the day is going to come when I'm not going to do that anymore.
		And all I can tell you is, if you order now, I mean, it's like a day-to-day thing, if you order now, you will get an autographed first edition copy, and they have them now for immediate shipment.
unidentified		It's called the quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I would be very interested, by the way, in talking to some of you who have already read it, and now, of course, that is many thousands of people.
		And knowing if you find any points you would like to argue or that you can find as definitively incorrect.
		I don't think so.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, this is Odyssey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Odyssey.
unidentified		I'm in the Grand Cino chat room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They told me that if I get on to say hi to all of them to confirm that I'm on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do they want me to come in and visit?
unidentified		Yeah, they do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I could do that.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Also, I wanted to ask if you knew anything about Oliver.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oliver who?
unidentified		Oliver, you know the half monkey, you know the guy that looks like a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The monkey that looks like a man.
unidentified		Yeah, you know that you didn't hear about that?
		No.
		Oh, well, I have an article in my email.
		I'll send that to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you do that?
unidentified		Yes, I will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then I'll come into the Grassy Knoll Chat room for a bit, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
		I'm sorry, I'm kind of nervous.
		This is the first time I've ever called.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, relax.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's no big deal.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call, and I'll meet you over there in the Grassy Knoll Chatroom.
		That's on America Online.
		It's been a few days, so I'll go in there.
		The way you get there is go into America Online and go to Keyword, you know, up at the top there where they have GoToKeyword.
		Click on that and just type in my name, Art Bell.
		And it will take you to an area called the Periscope area.
		And within that is the Grassy Knoll Chat Room.
		I think that's a great name for a chat room, the Grassy Knoll.
		And so I'll be in there and reading caustic comments, no doubt.
		It is an interesting place.
		Chat rooms are interesting places.
		They're a little slice of anarchy.
		And inevitably, you get two or three people in there, you know, who are hateful and want to cause trouble.
		And it turns into sort of anarchy.
		But that's okay.
		I mean, that's part of the intent of a chat room.
		I mean, it is Now they don't let it get too far out of hand, of course.
		They try not to.
		But pretty much anything goes within the terms of service.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We used to have a product that would take care of that, but we're presently not advertising it.
		So if the problem occurs, sir, get in touch with me and I'll try and get the number for you.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes.
		Hi, Art.
		Dan here in Virginia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		That was a great program last night, especially on the amalgams.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, don't get me started.
		I've got root canals and amalgam.
		Do you know how much money it costs me to get myself in this condition?
unidentified		Oh, probably $10,000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, more like $5,000.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, the unfortunate thing is 98% of the population, I think, has amalgam fillings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		And you look at the chronic fatigue and all the health problems.
		And there's been studies made correlating heavy metal toxicity with viral and bacterial problems.
		Okay.
		So there's a lot of documentation on this stuff.
		The World Health Organization has done a study.
		And you know, in Europe, it's against the law to put amalgam fillings in some countries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe then if I were to bite somebody, I could be charged with attempted murder.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My teeth were a registered weapon.
unidentified		But I'll be glad to follow on that if you'd like.
		But the thing that really I tuned into is the weather down in Texas.
		Oh, yes.
		That's so unusual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not anymore.
unidentified		Well, exactly.
unidentified		But you get a gut feeling about something that you know it's not natural.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Do you see where I'm going with this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The same place I went in my book, sir.
		There's no question about it.
		It is not natural.
		Now, we can get into, and I'm happy to with listeners, what they think this is.
		This change in the weather, change in the way people are behaving, change in our ecology, change in the environment, change in our economic situation and the political irrelevance going on in Washington.
		We could go on and on and on.
		It's all leading towards something.
		What do you think it is?
unidentified		Well, I think there's a lot of scenarios that you could look at.
		But if I wanted to take over a country, I would do it with the weather because you don't have any fallout from atom bombs and tornadoes.
		And you see how destructive they can be.
		And yet the area is left clean afterwards, you know, except for the debris.
		But there's no radiation hanging around.
		So if you really want to bring a country down to its knees, what do you do?
		You destroy it economically and, you know, cause a lot of natural catastrophes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		You know, it's possible.
		In other words, you're suggesting the weather is being manipulated.
		I am very interested in speaking with anybody who thinks that they have proof that that is being done.
		There are some who believe the HAARP project in Alaska has that capability.
		I'm not sure.
		There are some who believe people are utilizing Tesla technology and doing it.
		I'm not sure about that.
		What I am pretty sure about is that it is changing.
		Now, whether it's being manipulated or it is a reaction to man's actions, or a reaction, I guess I ought to say, I don't know.
		Pick between those two.
		What do you think?
		West to the Rockies or on the air?
unidentified		Hi.
		Well, hi.
		This is Mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mark, I can barely hear you, Mark, so you're going to have to talk into that phone and scream at us.
unidentified		Hi, this is Mark from Vancouver, D.C. Yes, Mark.
unidentified		I'm listening on CFUN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, CFUN, yes, sir.
unidentified		And before I talk about the main thing, I just want to erase a myth that Americans have about Canadians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask you a question?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What time does CFUN begin the program now?
unidentified		They carry it from 11 till 4.
		Wow.
		And they also carry Dreamland, except on Friday, they don't join till 1 o'clock.
		And so we missed like half a Victor last week.
		And I phoned, and I encouraged more listeners to that pretty good carriage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They've increased the hours, yeah.
unidentified		Yes, and I also call them, tell them that I appreciate that they did carry the show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good thing to do.
unidentified		Yeah, I want to erase a myth, and that is that the average Canadian does not like Canadian football.
		Most football fans I know are into the NFL, and we've always been into the NFL.
		We think of the CFL as a farm team.
		So we're really not into it.
		We got hockey, yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it's not, I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, NFL is the sport.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Football is the sport.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't even that much like college football, but the NFL, nothing compares to that.
unidentified		Absolutely.
		I like U.S. College.
		One thing I, the main thing I wanted to talk to you tonight, and I'll have to walk you through it here.
		Have you ever been near a street lamp and it goes out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		That happens to me all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		We talked about it.
		I mean, there are reasons this occurs.
unidentified		Is there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there are.
unidentified		That's what I wanted to call because your listeners...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, listen to me now.
		They go out a lot of times because they're in a power-saving mode.
		That's what some of my listeners say.
		Others say that lights, photoelectric sensors, Will sense an oncoming car or something, and you'll be walking toward it, and it'll go out because of that or because of a reflection, or because you're a very magnetic person.
unidentified		It's amazing.
		There will be a hundred lights on the street, but just when I'm going right by, boom, it goes out right when I'm beside it.
		Now, my wife and I, together, we're a powerhouse.
		Lights are just going out all the time.
		And I said to her the other day, she said, oh, you've got to call our bill.
		And I said, before I do, I want you to try and think of an event that maybe happened before this went out or started happening to us.
		And we both thought that it was the night that we saw this meteor.
		And the funny thing about it is we were looking at the sky, and she went to look away.
		And I said, don't take your eyes off the sky because you may see a fallen star.
		And at the exact second when I said fallen star, the sun was coming down.
		And she says to me, we're both quiet, and I said, this is great.
		My powers are getting stronger.
		I do magic, but very amateur magic.
		And so she says to me, was that a trick?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Sir, I have just set a politically incorrect cigarette up on my table.
		It is standing vertically upon its claimed filter.
		Let me see you knock it over.
unidentified		Did it work?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's still standing there.
unidentified		Keep working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Keep working.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from May 29th, 1997.
		Took my baby's life last Saturday.
		Came to the old oak tree.
		It stands beside the river where you...
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		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what you're listening to right now, don't you?
		This is Cusco.
		And do you know what?
		They're coming out with the third, A Point of the Triangle.
		They're coming out with a new album called Return to Native America.
unidentified		And I've heard it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's killing me.
		It's absolutely killing me.
		You'll hear it in July or maybe a little before if I can talk him into it, but it is unbelievably good.
unidentified		Groan
		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to be on the air this morning at 7 o'clock my time with Mike Murphy, who is kind of a talk radio soulmate of mine over in Kansas City on KCMO.
		50,000 watts of sincere attitude.
		So we'll do that at 9 o'clock Kansas City time.
		Hey, Art, here is a thought I would like your comment on as well as the audience's comments.
		There is no question that the government is losing credibility.
		Each day, more and more people say flat out that they don't believe anything they hear from the government.
		The question is, what are they going to do about it?
		Do you think the powers that be, that's in quotes, will sit back and allow the people to label them as irrelevant liars?
		Or will we be, in quotes, made to believe what they say?
		I remember an episode of Star Trek where Captain Picard is captured and held in a dark room and shown three lights.
		An ominous big brother voice continuously asks him how many lights there are and tortures him until he answers two instead of three.
		In essence, they insist that he believe they're lying.
		How long will we be allowed to say, I don't believe you, to the government?
		Let me repeat that last line.
		How long will we be allowed to say, I don't believe you to the government?
		Rob listening to KFYI.
		Oh, that's a good question.
unidentified		Amen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I don't have the answer.
		It is true, certainly, that Americans, and I did a program on this that's going to air on WTBS one night.
		We did that subject here because it is such an important one.
		So many people, even me, becoming Cynical and doubting instead of as we used to accepting what our government told us.
		And the consequences of that are very serious.
		And so would they ever begin to literally insist that we believe what they say?
		Not in the America we know today.
		The next question is, how long will the America we know today remain even remotely intact?
		And the answer to that one is not in my immediate grasp.
		So, Rob, a really super question.
		Maybe some of the audience can respond.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, Aura, how you doing, buddy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right.
unidentified		My name's Kenny, and I'm calling just south of Cincinnati in Covington, Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I'd like to know, you talk about this quickening, and you say that it's earth changes and weather changes, and people changes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, don't people run the government?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an open question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They go and they vote and they send people to Washington.
unidentified		No, I mean, the people that in fact are running the government are people.
unidentified		Now, why are they immune to the quickening?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're part of it.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		You were talking about Oklahoma City earlier?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And you said that you couldn't believe that our government would be doing something like that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what he was implying was that the government had planted the explosives inside to blow up its own building.
		No, I don't believe that.
		Cynical as I may be, I do not believe that.
unidentified		Well, I've seen videos and stuff on public television here where they've shown holes drilled in the foundation and everything for like demolition charges.
		I've seen it on film.
		And it's strange.
		I don't know what's going on.
		Maybe some of the listeners can help out here.
		I don't trust the government one bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's silly.
		I don't trust them either.
		Nobody should.
		But short of compelling evidence, and I'm sorry, but I have not seen compelling evidence that this is a good thing.
unidentified		Well, they have all the power.
unidentified		They ain't going to leave no evidence around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, so then you are reduced to speculation, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can speculate all you want.
unidentified		All right, buddy, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But the evidence that I've seen so far points to exactly what happened.
		A rider truck full of a lot of very high-explosive soup went off and blew up most of that building.
		Now, I admit that the crater does not reasonably demonstrate the damage done to the building, but look, these were shaped explosives.
		There were buildings on the other side.
		There was a reflection that caused a second seismic blip immediately after the first.
		And a lot of the explosion was reflected and caused damage that would not necessarily reflect the exact size of the physical hole produced by the explosion.
		So short of very compelling evidence that it occurred otherwise, I think I tend to believe that what we're hearing out of the Denver trial is what happened.
		That's just one person's opinion.
		I know there's a million people and a million theories.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		This is Colmer from North Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir?
unidentified		I got a question for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		This guy told me that he's got a CB radio that he can broadcast so strong he could actually interfere with aircraft.
		I'm talking about major aircraft.
		Is that possible?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No, it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		CB radio operates on 27 megahertz, and the aircraft band is O up in the 120 megahertz, 130 megahertz range.
		And so the answer is more or less no.
unidentified		Okay.
		That's what I thought.
		You saw what I thought he was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's bragging.
unidentified		He's bragging about something that don't exist, huh?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care, sir.
		Now, it is possible, of course, that some idiot with a gigantic linear amplifier emitting spurious radiation in a harmonics could, I suppose, interfere with aircraft, but the odds of that are pretty slim.
		And at any rate, it would be nothing to brag about and something to fix before the authorities get to you.
		But that would be a very outside possibility.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		Art, I will be very quick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I just wanted to tell you that you mentioned the can of tuna would be good for our cat.
		And it's not.
		It's got a lot of mercury in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, well, then I'm consistent because I love tuna.
		And I eat tuna.
		I eat porch adam tuna, which is the best tuna I've ever had in my whole life.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's delicious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so, look, we're all dying, right?
unidentified		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's the attitude I'm going to adjust to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're dying, and if I like tuna, I'm going to eat tuna.
unidentified		Good for you.
unidentified		Bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Same for my cat.
		See you later.
		I think at the moment, actually not quite at the moment you're born, but shortly thereafter, more cells begin to be destroyed than are regenerated, and that is the process of dying.
		So we're all in that process now.
		There's no reason to hurry it along, and you can do what you can to prevent that process.
		But otherwise, you know, it is as assured as taxes.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		This is Ed in San Diego.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Ed.
unidentified		Good to hear from you.
unidentified		I got your book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got it.
unidentified		I read it.
		It was amazing.
		I must say that it didn't end on a happy note, but I thought it ended on a very serious note, and I think a lot of people should read it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a serious subject, sir.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		It's well written, well documented.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		The thing I really appreciated about it, and besides the bibliography and the documentation, is some of the conclusions that you made were very, very accurate, especially the ones dealing with socially, how we've basically become narcissistic and have become so self-centered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		And that the loss of morals and the loss of just being kind and decent to one another, that is just so prevalent, and it's so sad to see that going away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
		It began in the cities.
		It began in the areas where people are packed together.
		But it is now true in little towns, even like the little town I live in.
		And there used to be an escape from it.
		There is no longer.
		And it's spreading and quickening.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		I just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
		Take care.
		It is a good book.
		I'm very, very proud of it.
		I'm very proud of it.
		But, you know, and I'll say this again, and I really mean it.
		This is not a book that I set out to write to write a book.
		There are a lot of people that just sit down to write a book.
		I'm going to be an author.
		So I'm going to write a book.
		Let's see.
		What shall I write about?
		It really wasn't like that at all.
		It was compelling for me to do.
		In a lot of ways, I didn't have a choice.
		I wonder if you understand that.
		I didn't have a choice.
		It had to be said.
		And then I realized that it had to be said in a way that brought credibility to what I'm claiming because what I'm claiming is somewhat incredible.
		I am claiming that we are in the middle of a process that is going to culminate in a basic change in human history.
		And that is an incredible claim and requires a credible documentation, and it is in there.
		And so the reaction to this book, I have yet to hear the angry reaction, and maybe that's because it's hard to refute facts.
		So I'll just leave it at that.
		Again, if you want an autographed copy of my book before I stop signing autographed copies, and that day is coming, I don't know when, you know, like when my hand wears out, you can be assured you'll get one if you order soon.
		The number is, I may continue doing it for, it just depends.
		You know, some days when you're signing, it's really tedious and hard.
		And other days, it's very easy.
		It's like everything else, you know, it's sort of in cycles.
		So I can't exactly tell you when I'm going to stop signing, but that day will come.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Congratulations on your fourth place finish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, well, he gave it away.
		There's a listing on the website now.
		It came from compiled by Talkers Magazine of the Top Ten Talk Show Hosts in America.
		And it is true I appear to be number four.
unidentified		I'm calling from Santa Fe County, KOB, out of Albuquerque.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have the list there?
unidentified		Yeah, right in front of me.
unidentified		I can't believe Rush was number one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course he's number one.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Surprised me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's been in that position now for years.
unidentified		And another thing, you know, that FBI letter was really a little spooky.
		I can't believe it.
		They really sort of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
unidentified		They threatened you, kind of like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like?
unidentified		Yeah, more than that, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like.
		No, they threatened us.
		I mean, clearly, that was a threat.
		If you don't want any more contact with us, you will do the following.
		You know, I guess they, you know, as it says there, where Keith wrote the entry point to the letter, so you can read the letter, the FBI can't take a joke.
		Well, they were not humored.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		A couple quick things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, on April Fool's, I went up to my own website and I almost had a heart attack.
		I'm serious.
		I almost had a heart attack.
		I had no idea Keith was going to do that.
unidentified		Yes, I saw it too when that happened.
		I know.
		That surprised me.
		I thought something was amiss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I went up there and I finally did get it, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But when I first looked at it, I went, oh, my God.
unidentified		You're in trouble now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm in big trouble.
unidentified		Hey, can I thank that radio station up there in Grand Junction?
unidentified		See, KOB goes off the Air Force.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And up there in Grand Junction, I don't know, it's letters of ZZ at the end or something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can ZZ, I think.
unidentified		Yeah, and I get to listen to them for the last hour, and I appreciate that from them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that's a good thing to do is whatever radio station you happen to be listening to, I always forget to do this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give them a call and thank them for carrying the program because we are a bit different than other talk shows, and that's a good thing, I think.
unidentified		Can I also thank the Grassy Knoll, which I've come to know and love?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you may.
unidentified		for its interesting outlook on life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I need to have...
		Thank you, sir.
		I need to have somebody in AOL management contact me by facts or preferably by fax or email.
		I guess it would be easy for somebody in AOL management, American Online Management, contact me by email.
		Guess what my email address is, artbell at AOL.com.
		So if somebody in the management area of AOL would please contact me by email, the easiest way for y'all, I would appreciate that.
		Artbell at AOL.com.
		All right.
		So he said it, so I'll say it now.
		There's a list up on the website right now that you can see.
		And I will tell you, compiled by Talkers Magazine once a year, they compile actually a list of the top 100 talk show hosts.
		And this year, I think as well as last, they compile a list of the top 10, well, I'm reading from it now, the top 10 radio talk hosts in America.
		Show weekly CUME estimates in millions of listeners.
		Rush Limbaugh, number one.
		Rush has been there for years with an estimated 21 million listeners.
		Number two, Dr. Loris Lessinger with an estimated 14 million.
		Number three, Howard Stern with an estimated 12 million.
		Number four, me, Art Bell, estimated 10 million.
		Number five, Dr. Joey Brown, estimated 9 million.
		Number six is Don Imus with an estimated 8 million.
		Number 7 is Bruce Williams with an estimated $7 million.
		Number eight is Jim Bohannon with an estimated $6 million.
		Number nine is G. Gordon Liddy with an estimated $5 million.
		And number 10 is a tie between Michael Reagan with an estimated $4 million and Canon Daria Dolan with an estimated $4 million.
		And so if you wish to see that list, it is on the website right now, along with the now famous letter from the FBI.
		It says FBI can't take an April Fool's joke.
		They were not humored.
		So of course, we did as instructed.
		And then Keith posted the letter from the FBI.
		So they'll probably send him another letter now.
		You will immediately remove that letter, and he'll probably post that.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yo.
unidentified		This is your art bellion hellion up here in Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		I'm doing great.
		I'm so happy that you beat Imus.
		I'm so happy.
		I can't wait.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm amazed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe what's happening to this.
unidentified		I can't wait till that book gets on the New York Times bestseller list and you're beating his picture book that he's got out.
unidentified		Have you seen that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His picture book?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Imos has a picture book?
unidentified		Yeah.
		No, he has a picture book.
		He does.
		He has a picture.
		He went into the desert and took a bunch of pictures of some rocks and stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		And he's selling it for $25 or something.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Dom Imus rock book?
unidentified		I'm telling you, it says it's him and his brother Fred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you serious?
unidentified		I'm serious as a heart attack.
unidentified		Those two guys, they go out in the desert and they take pictures of rocks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		So whatever, I guess, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, somebody famous once said that if you take two boards and nail them together in any certain way and take them out to a swap meet, eventually somebody will come along and buy them as an object or art.
unidentified		Hey, will somebody tax that list to Don Imis so we can go through?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, listen, can you hold on?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		We'll do that.
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		That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
		On this Somewhere in Time.
		Midnight at the awaiting Send your camel to bed.
		Shadows painting our faces.
		Praise it.
		There's a romance in our head.
		Heavens holding our hands.
		Shining just for us.
		Let's live off to a stand.
		Kick up the little girl.
		Come on.
		Cactus is our friend.
		We want them away.
		Come on.
		Hilly evening.
		Till the evening.
		You don't have to answer.
		There's no need to speak.
		Now we take you back to the past on Art Bell somewhere in time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		I'm Art Bell.
		I seem to always be in trouble.
		You know that?
		That's what I've concluded in my older age.
		That all my life and since I was small, I've almost consistently and always been in trouble of one sort or another.
		And that still hasn't changed.
		I suppose it never will, huh?
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
		Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, with respect again to the ratings of the talk show host, I am very proud to be in the top 10 now and number four at that.
		And I think that the reason, and by the way, I am not surprised that Rush remains number one.
		Not surprised at all.
		And I'm not surprised that Howard is also way up there.
		You know why?
		Because I think of myself, I think of Rush as an original.
		Rush, whatever you think of him, love him, hate him, whatever.
		He's an original item.
		And there are a lot of people out there who are trying to follow in his rather substantial footsteps.
		And they're copycats.
		And whatever you think of Stern, he's an original.
		Definitely an original.
		In fact, actually, his movie is quite good.
		I saw his movie, and I've got to say it was good.
		He's an original, and he's got it right.
		The day came when he said, hell with this.
		You know, I'm going to do what I want to do and hell with everybody.
		And I did the same thing.
		A couple of, well, actually, two, three years ago, I did it.
		And I think that that's what accounts for success.
		I mean, you can follow in somebody else's footsteps, and there are those who are beginning to try and do what I do on the air.
		And that's fine.
		But I don't think it ever really gets you where you want to go.
		So my advice, for all it's worth, and it is not followed, is to be yourself, to be original.
		And then you'll get up and go.
		But if you just try and emulate somebody else, you know, you're just going to be a weak second or third or fourth or fifth generation.
		And you're never really going to achieve the top of the heap, which is where you want to be.
		East of the Rockies, you're back on the air again, hi.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		I just wanted to reiterate that maybe somebody could fax IMS that list or something or power that list.
		And I think that maybe now that you're getting a little more good ink from the press, so to speak, with this list here, that maybe people will take more notice of you and give you more respect.
		And maybe they'll read your book and maybe some of these day people will wake up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe so, but look, I don't care.
		Look, even Imus is an original, and so that's why he's on the list.
		I mean, look, being on the top ten list of anything in any career field is cool.
		So I don't, you know, I don't.
unidentified		If I could switch the subject on you there for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		Okay, my roommate is from Colombia, from Medellín, Colombia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		And he was in the city there once, and there was an accident where some man cut his hand very, very badly.
		And they couldn't stop the bleeding for nothing.
		And, you know, the ambulances aren't like they are here.
		It takes a long time for them to arrive and whatnot.
		And so this guy was bleeding to death out of his hand.
		And I mean, the blood was just everywhere.
		My roommate told me this.
		So anyway, this man came up and said, move away, move away.
		And he prayed over him and whatnot.
		And the bleeding stopped and the guy lived.
		And my friend, my roommate, said, wow, you are really awesome.
		You know, can you teach me some of this or something?
		And the guy says, I can't teach.
		It's hereditary.
		But he says, I can do this.
		He says, I know you're going to America to my roommate.
		And he put a spell on my roommate and said, you will get through the border, no problem, because he had no papers and stuff like that.
		Made it right through.
		And he's got a great job.
		And, you know, it's all because this guy put a spell on him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Can you believe it?
unidentified		He's on the line right now if you'd like to talk to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He is.
unidentified		He's on the line right now if you'd like to talk to him.
		Speak.
		Yeah, no, I just believe that what he's talking about.
		But yeah, that's really happening.
		You know, the guy, well, I don't know.
		I just believed the guy because what I see and he did with the other guy that he was bleeding.
		So he told me, well, you go to the United States, you go over there and you've got to get a job, you've got to get all your documents and all that stuff straight.
		Right?
		So I came over and that's what I did.
		I started working.
		I started to learn how to speak English and all that stuff.
		And I have a great job.
		I got all my documents.
		You know, I'm legal in the United States and all that stuff.
		And all that I've been doing, I've been doing working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say congratulations to you, and I believe it.
		I believe in a lot of things that you cannot see and cannot touch.
		And I believe in the possibility of their being true.
		And that includes the kind of thing you just heard.
		And I guess there's no more to say.
		I mean, these things happen.
		The world is more than we know.
		It is more than we can touch and feel and grab and grasp.
		I've got something here that fits into the quickening category.
		This is dateline Okayama in Japan entitled Monkeys in Labs May Have Deadly Virus.
		About 40% of Japanese monkeys bred for experiments at universities nationwide carry a virus.
		Listen here.
		Potentially as deadly for humans as the Ebola virus.
		The finding was revealed by Nagasaki University Assistant Professor Hiroshi Sato at a meeting in Okayama last week.
		The meeting was organized by the operators of animal experiment facilities at national universities.
		In response to the revelation, the council secretary, a secretariat that is, intends to call for caution in the use of these monkeys.
		According to Sato, he detected the B as in boy virus in some 40% of more than 1,000 monkey blood samples that he had collected from 53 facilities in national universities.
		Experts regard the B virus, whatever in the hell that is, B as in boy, as being as deadly as Ebola.
		Only the most advanced facilities are even allowed to handle it.
		And they're saying that as many as 40% of the monkeys used for experiments in Japan may have this virus.
		Good heavens.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes.
		This is Ed in Oklahoma City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And, gee, it sounds a little bit different on the phone than you do on the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what people say.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Listening, I have been listening to your show for about a year and a half.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And I really like it.
		But I wanted to comment.
		I have one question for you in a comment.
		The question is, what was the name of the person on your show last night?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Last night.
unidentified		Your interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wayne Green.
unidentified		Wayne Green.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does that help you?
unidentified		Yes, it does, sir.
unidentified		I think he's probably a pretty good person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's no doubt about it.
		Wayne Green is Wayne Green is an original.
		And that brings me back to where I was a little while ago.
		Wayne Green has been a millionaire and then poor and then a millionaire and poor.
		And he's an original person.
		And there are fewer originals in the world today.
		But we still have them.
		And I'm proud to be able to count myself, I think, as an original.
		And we need more originals and fewer copycats.
		So if I would give anybody out there, you know, getting into my business or actually any business advice, I would say follow your instincts.
		Do what you think is right.
		Be honest with yourself.
		And it sounds pretty corny, but follow your inner instincts.
		And if you are almost compulsive about it, you will achieve your goals.
		Or if you don't, you will have fought the good fight.
		But the odds of your achieving your goals are much better if you plunge into it and do what you know is right despite what others may tell you.
		Don't copy others.
		Be yourself.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art, this is Joseph from L.A., man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, man.
unidentified		Hey, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, man.
unidentified		Is it hot?
unidentified		Is it hot over there in Nevada?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About the same temperature as L.A. I know.
unidentified		It's cool, though.
unidentified		It's cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, talking about the quickening, man.
unidentified		What about Africa?
		Africa over there, you know, all that restructuring they're having over there.
		You think that's a little bit more of a quickening over there?
		No.
		Just the same pace that we're going to go through right now?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that they're just at a different stage, but because of the population pressure in Africa, they're quickening indeed.
		And that accounts for the civil strife you're seeing now in Africa.
		And the rest of Africa is going to look at South Africa as a model, and they are going to be industrializing, and the rest of Africa is going to want what we have, as Asia is now beginning to acquire, South America is going to want and is beginning to acquire,
		and as these different continents continue to increase in population and want the same material comforts that we have, which includes industrialization, transportation, infrastructure, the environment is not going to begin to be able to handle it.
		That's all in my book.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		I have a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Okay.
		About two weeks ago, I had like this dream, and I don't know if it was a dream or not, but I dreamt that I was abducted by aliens.
		And ever since then, I've had a real bad pain in the right side of my nose.
		And my nose has started bleeding a little bit, and I've had a continuous headache for two weeks.
		And I was wondering if there's like anything I can do about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can go to a doctor.
unidentified		Yeah, I heard that this one lady that was abducted by aliens and that they tried to pull the thing out of her nose and it killed her.
		And I know Whitley Striber had one in his nose.
		And he's afraid to get his pulled out because, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He believes that he has his in his ear, not nose.
unidentified		Oh, it's not in his nose.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the first thing to do is to confirm that there is really something there.
		And to do that, you've got to go to a doctor.
		And a doctor will be more than happy to oblige you with an x-ray or an MRI or whatever.
		And take a look and be sure something is really there.
		So do that first.
unidentified		Okay, and what if, you know, they want to pull it out and I don't want them to?
unidentified		Do you think they'd try to do it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They'll strap you down and, you know, with something, a medical version of a pair of pliers, and they'll yank it out.
unidentified		But what if I don't want them to do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're strapped down, you know, you will have no choice.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		Have a good day.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, this is Bill from Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bill.
unidentified		Yeah, I've been listening to your show for about two months, and I'm addicted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And we've got a great show, and I just want to ask you a question about the alien interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Are they going to show that the video?
unidentified		Is it going to be released?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The video, I understand, is to be released, I think, sometime next month or the month after, either June or July.
		I'm not sure.
		But yes, it is going to be released.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I appreciate it, and I love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, always.
		First-time callers, call area 702-727-1222.
		Okay.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hey, you are.
		Hey.
		Did I hear you a couple of months ago or a month ago saying you thought the Aurora was being tested in San Diego?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I said was, I do believe the Aurora aircraft is being tested.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as it comes in over the Pacific Ocean toward the test area here, shockwaves are felt frequently in San Diego as big booms.
unidentified		Yeah, I live in San Diego and we get those booms constantly.
		And one night, I mean, it was going on for hours.
		This was at the beginning of this month.
		And I went outside around 11 o'clock, and it was a cloudy night, but I saw this bright star there, and it just zipped off.
		And I knew it couldn't be a shooting star because I could barely see any stars.
		I don't know if that has any connection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
unidentified		Well, you know, I mean, when those booms come, I mean, they rattle the windows, the doors.
unidentified		And they're coming from, I don't know where they're coming from, but we have a lot of military bases out here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what to tell you.
		I think that's what it is.
		I think it's the Aurora aircraft or something very much like it.
unidentified		Or something like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
unidentified		Yeah, we got them all at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, well, keep your eyes on the skies, sir.
unidentified		Oh, I don't get the honors.
unidentified		Oh, geez, it's almost 4 o'clock.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not close enough.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		One of these nights, you'll get them.
		It's, you know, whoever is last.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yes, this is Wally from Santa Monica.
		Okay.
		I last year sent you, you've been asking a great deal about you would like to see some of these little things in the way of a toy or something that has this free energy.
		I sent you a package from Popular Science Magazine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Last year with photocopies of all these experiments they were doing in the laboratories and universities.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen it.
unidentified		Oh, you have?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what I haven't seen is a working model.
		Diagrams, schemes, theories.
		I've got a lot of that.
unidentified		Oh, you do?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		But they had them all out in the desk there.
unidentified		You know, pictures of them working.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pictures, yes.
unidentified		Well, they had the little antenna going out onto the roof and just thin wire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Picking up the free power, right?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to see it.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I sent you that with a picture.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want to see a picture.
unidentified		Oh, you want one of those things?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think you understand.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Listen, there is something going on afoot right now that's very interesting.
		I read the USA newspaper today, and they have all the states listed across the USA, and then Arizona down there where they lost the couple of A-10s down Yuma.
		They have a Hua Chuka.
		Traffic jams are expected on the highways going out of there to Tucson, Yuma, and Phoenix.
		There's 235 military vehicles leaving the Army post down there for a, quote, nationwide exercise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
unidentified		The exercise is scheduled to end June the 10th.
		So evidently, military operations all over the nation are going to be combined in one massive thing to see just how quickly they can handle everyone in the country.
		Militarily.
		Here comes the boys with the blue helmets.
		Black helicopters.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Blue helmets, black helicopters.
		All right, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		I don't fear the UN.
		I hear this frequently from people.
		Oh, the UN is going to take over.
		No, it's not.
		The UN can't even manage little tiny third and fourth world island nations.
		How would you expect they would manage a nation full of very angry independent Americans who are armed to the teeth?
		Blue helmets.
		They wouldn't, you know, they'd probably have a shorter survival time than aliens who would land and be coming down the ramp.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
		Hello?
		No, you're not.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Wow, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, turn your radio off.
unidentified		Okay, I will, I will.
unidentified		I'll turn my radio off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good, good, good.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay, I'm originally from Lana de Chupacabas, Puerto Rico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, see, I can tell from the way you said it that it's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear you say that again.
unidentified		Puerto Rico?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Puerto Rico?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
unidentified		Puerto Lano de Chupacabas?
		Yeah.
		Oh, I see.
		Okay, yeah.
		Well, you know what?
		It's true.
		It's really, this thing really exists.
		And, you know, I mean, a bunch of farmers are going to be killing off their own sheep because sheep are very expensive and goats are very expensive in Puerto Rico.
		They're really upset about it, too.
		But I wanted to say that I heard for the first time you were talking about something landed in Puerto Rico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, I heard about it first from you, and then I talked to my brother, and he said it was in Lajas.
unidentified		Lajas, Puerto Rico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I've heard.
unidentified		And it's confirmed, and he said it was even on TV they had a videotape of some light, and then the military came in, and nobody knew anything else about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think Puerto Rico is such a special place for all of these things going on?
unidentified		Well, because of the Arecibo telescope that is trying to contact aliens for so long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, maybe it has.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But the thing with the...
unidentified		I'm in Humboldt County.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Humboldt County.
		All right.
		Well, listen.
unidentified		I just want to tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen to me.
		Listen to me.
		The show's over.
		There's no more time.
		You get the honors.
		Tell everybody good night.
unidentified		Oh, good night.
unidentified		Can I talk to you, Dr. Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it, folks.

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