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	Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening.
	And or good morning, as the case may be, and welcome to Anything Goes Talk Radio.
	Open lines all night long tonight.
	Anything you guys want to talk about, Is fair game.
	From the Tahitian and Hawaiian island chains in the west to the Caribbean and the U.S.
	Virgin Islands.
	Both with visions of dancing girls and trade winds and such.
	Into South America, north to the pole, worldwide on the great internet.
	This is Coast to Coast AM.
	I'm Art Bell.
	Good morning.
	Is going to be one of those nights.
	We're simply going to open the lines.
	We're not going to screen calls.
	We never do.
	And we're gonna see what happens.
	Not a lot of news.
	The McVeigh trial has gone to the jury.
	Well, correction.
	The McVeigh trial will have the judge instruct the jury and it will go to the jury in the morning.
	So that'll be a wait-and-see deal.
	I don't know.
	You know, the prosecution says he did it.
	Presented a pretty strong case.
	Defense says he didn't.
	And the guy who did was blown up.
	And that's where the extra leg came from.
	Personally, I doubt it's going to be a very long deliberation.
	I would expect a verdict fairly quickly.
	We'll see.
	The Marines are evacuating using helicopters to evacuate about 250 Americans from Freetown, Sierra Leone.
	Now, we say it is not stable.
	Indeed, it is not, though they claim To have it under control, they also claim that nobody better violate their airspace, as in U.S.
	helicopters coming out.
	We are intent on taking our people out, and my estimation would be that if they get in the way of our helicopters, they will be sorry.
	Scientists in Spain, check this out, have found the remains, this is from Reuters, by the way, this hour's Reuters, I found the remains of what could be the oldest known European.
	The fossilized remains of a boy with a remarkably modern face date back 780,000 years and have now been dubbed Homo Ancestor.
	Antecessor, I guess that is, really.
	The new, same deal, the new species is considered a relative of both modern man and the Neanderthals.
	Now, wouldn't that make it the missing link?
	In other words, if they can clearly show a link between Neanderthal and modern man... Anyway, the boy was discovered among a group of six people, almost a modern height and bone size.
	They are considered to have advanced Did you see the young lady, 13-year-old, who won the spelling bee?
	She jumped up and down and jumped up and down.
	Actually, she began celebrating prior to the spelling of her word, because obviously she knew how to spell it.
	Science.
	Did you see the young lady, 13 year old, who won the spelling bee?
	She jumped up and down and jumped up and down.
	Actually, she began celebrating prior to the spelling of her word because obviously she
	knew how to spell it.
	She was happy to get the word.
	And it is, it's fun to see somebody that happy.
	Boy, she was just jumping up and down, wasn't she?
	Now, this is the one serious presentation that I wish to make to you this morning, and we may or may not talk about it.
	Before I open lines, this fax came to me last night during the hind end of the Wayne Green program, and I thought I wanted to deal with it so I thought I would save it for tonight and people have asked me from time to time if I'm a Christian well you know I think generally so I mean I I don't know how there are many definitions of that I I think Christ walked the earth I think there is a creator also I think in general
	In a general sense, I am a Christian.
	I've investigated a lot of religions, Buddhism, many others.
	Sort of in search of, been for a long time.
	But I think in general terms, I'm Christian.
	However, specifically so, perhaps not.
	Anyway, I got this fax.
	Hi Art.
	I heard you say the other night that you're Christian.
	I also heard you Let me just comment on revenge.
	Not consistent art.
	The essence of Christ's message is forgiveness.
	Mike in Campbell, California.
	And I must tell you that all my life I have been a revengeful person.
	And I want to say that to delineate between vengeful, as in seeking out to do somebody in, because I don't.
	However, I also do not turn the other cheek.
	So that makes me a revengeful person.
	I think karma helps those who help themselves.
	Or maybe you could say karma helps those who help karma.
	And I know that you will suggest that no matter what bad thing somebody might do to you or somebody you love, that karma in this lifetime or some other will cause, uh, come back to them manyfold.
	Something terrible will happen to them or some incarnation of theirs.
	I can't wait.
	If somebody comes at me, I come right back at them.
	And I come right back at them, usually, um, harder than they came at me.
	And though I'm not going to, for a lot of very good reasons, discuss specifics here, suffice it to say, and you might remember this and mark it down, that if somebody comes after me, and maybe it is not the Christian thing to do, And when I mean come after me, I mean come after me, my family, those I love, that sort of thing.
	I'm going right back after them.
	I don't even have to think about it.
	It's a natural reaction for me.
	Therefore, if that is the mark of a Christian, to be done upon by others and just sit there and turn by the other cheek then count me out as a Christian and people will call and say well you can't cherry pick you can't do that you can't you can't yes I can yes I can and I can be wrong but that's me I don't know about you but I'll tell you right now somebody comes at me I'm coming right
	Back, Adam.
	I have had... So I'd like your comments on that.
	I've had... I don't know how many messages with regard to the weather lately.
	This one is an Associated Press article from Los Angeles.
	Satellites are picking up a shift in the trade winds and are detecting humps of warm A water moving across the Pacific Ocean at the equator signs another weather-disrupting El Nino may be brewing.
	This is the same thing detected by Stan Dale.
	If so, rains and drought could be in store worldwide.
	An El Nino occurs when westward blowing trade winds weaken, allowing a mass of warm water normally Situated off Australia.
	Hello, Stan!
	To drive eastward to Western South America.
	The phenomenon got its name from the Spanish words for baby Jesus.
	Because the huge warm pool usually arrives around Christmas.
	Because water expands as it heats, warmer seas are higher seas.
	And they are now detecting two humps, six to eight inches high, and that was detected by NASA on Thursday.
	So, it is, and by the way, that was from the Washington Post.
	Thank you, David, for sending that along.
	Clearly, the weather is changing, either for the short term or for the long term, but I've got a million articles about it.
	There's no question about it.
	Those poor people in Texas.
	And there's going to be a lot more of that.
	And you may or may not have been following this.
	NASA has a polar spacecraft.
	Pictures from NASA's polar spacecraft orbiting at about 30,000 miles Clearly show objects streaking toward the Earth and ballooning into clouds 600 to 15,000 miles above the surface.
	Filters on the polar cameras show the objects contain water.
	Estimated they are 20 to 40 aggregate tons of speeding ice in from space at more than 20,000 miles an hour.
	They strike the Earth's atmosphere and vaporize.
	NASA astronomer Steve Morin, that's M-A-R-I-N, said, quote, this is a new class of object, end quote.
	Now, a lot of scientists think that this is how the Earth may have acquired its water by this relatively constant bombardment of things that are filled with water.
	Or this may be something relatively new.
	At any rate, I guess we will shortly, according to this, find out.
	Interesting times we live in, aren't they?
	Okay, here's a story I doubt you're going to hear anywhere else, though it is from the Associated Press.
	Gore Bay, Ontario.
	Check this out.
	A 19-year-old Indian was acquitted of manslaughter Thursday by a judge who accepted testimony that the slain man was believed to be an evil spirit called The Bear Walker.
	Defendant Leon Jaco said that he was acting in self-defense against the Bear Walker when he fatally bludgeoned Ron Thompson with a ceremonial walrus bone in 1995.
	Ontario Court Judge Richard Treanor agreed.
	Ruling the killing was not an act of aggression, but an act of self-defense to protect Jaco and others.
	From the judge, I accept the evidence of native spirituality as being a sincerely held belief.
	The accused was unaware of the victim's propensity for violence, including his reputation for having powers, as a bear walker.
	End quote.
	Wow.
	Wow, I say again.
	What a story.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM.
	Once again, tonight, I think we are going to devote to Absolutely nothing.
	That is to say, whatever it is that grabs your fancy to talk about suits me.
	So, uh, here we go.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Uh, yes.
	All right.
	Yes, sir.
	This is Ryan from Houston, Texas.
	Hello, Ryan.
	Uh, I called, uh, on the night you had Rosa Leone.
	Uh-huh.
	Yes.
	And, uh, I had, uh, I had one, one, uh, comment I didn't get, uh, put on the air.
	All right.
	She seems like she's putting money before everything, which seems like a pretty common thing these days.
	It seems like our morals and ethics are... Well, wait a minute, wait.
	Before we get into the other aspect of Rosalie, where you can talk about morals or ethics, I suppose, if you want, there is nothing, in my opinion, immoral or unethical, about pursuing money, if you want to.
	Well, I understand that.
	I mean, money, my grandfather said it wisely, money is a tool.
	You have to have it to live, to survive.
	Yeah.
	But it seems like, well, to put Rosalie aside, nothing against her.
	I know everything she was saying was true, even though I... Well, that's the whole thing about Rosalie.
	I mean, you could object to it morally or ethically.
	It's really hard to say she's wrong.
	I mean, most of us knew she was absolutely right.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	But as far as putting money in front of everything, including love... Ah, now that's a different story.
	The love of money, that's bad news.
	Yeah, but there's one thing... But you can like it a lot.
	You can like it a lot, yes.
	But there's one thing that money cannot buy.
	Uh-huh.
	And that is love.
	Ah, that's true.
	And that's just all I really wanted to say.
	All right.
	Well, you said it well.
	Thank you.
	No, you're right.
	Can't buy love.
	Money can't buy me love.
	That was Beatles, right?
	It's true.
	It can buy you a lot of good sex.
	But he's right.
	Love is a separate entity that will not be purchased.
	That's absolutely correct.
	West of the Rockies, you're on air.
	Hello.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Uh, is this our bro?
	I'm the only one here.
	It's the only possibility.
	Yes, it is me.
	Oh, morning.
	Uh, well, depending on your time zone.
	Yeah.
	Um, I would like to say about the weather.
	Yes.
	All right.
	In, uh, in Mark of the Bible, it says that a furious storm came upon the boat and swept over the sea.
	And, uh, his disciples woke Jesus saying that, um, save us, we're going to drown.
	He replied, you a little faith.
	Why are you so afraid?
	And I figured that 2000 years ago, Jesus walked this earth.
	So, um, it says in the Bible repeatedly that he's coming back.
	But see, as I recall it, he was the only one who could more or less walk on water.
	Yes.
	Everybody else pretty much drowned.
	Um, it doesn't say that in here, but, um, well, I know.
	But I mean, you know, Noah got it together and saved some animals, but everybody else more or less went under.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	In the Jerusalem, back then, there was a holy land.
	And he says that he keeps coming back.
	He's coming back in clouds and with power and glory.
	And I figured if he's coming back, there's got to be a more holy land.
	So I sat there and figured it out for a while, and I'm pretty sure it's Colorado.
	Colorado?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and, um, about the storms and stuff, high winds... Well, I've heard it called God's country, but I... Uh, you have storms and high winds?
	Yes, um, I figure that somebody, some individual human, is causing the winds of great power.
	All right, well, thank you very much, uh, I don't know about that.
	Maybe a group, a committee.
	Most things are done by committee these days, so if you want somebody to blame for the winds, we've got to look for a committee of at least 300, right?
	Hey, by the way, I should say this.
	As you know, my book, my baby, it's called The Quickening, and to be precise, it is 337 pages long.
	As you know, sold out.
	First printing of that went in exactly two weeks.
	Exactly two weeks.
	It was incredible.
	The second printing It has arrived and is now going at the same pace.
	I am still, and until I get tired of it, signing books.
	That means you can get a first edition copy, because we now have the second printing in hand.
	You can get a first edition copy of the quickening autographed, with my autograph, for now.
	And I don't know for how much longer.
	It depends on how much longer I can handle signing books.
	That's it.
	So if I were you, I would not wait because when the day comes, it will come in all likelihood without warning.
	You know, one day I'll just say, man, I can't do this anymore.
	And I'm thankful that it's going out as quickly as it is, but it consumes nearly all my excess time.
	And so there is a day when it's going to end.
	Signing them, that is.
	You'll continue to be able to get the book.
	But right now, to get a first edition autographed copy of The Quickening, call 24 hours a day, and now might be a good time to try.
	1-800-864-7991.
	That's 1-800-864-7991.
	1-800-864-7991. That's 1-800-864-7991. If you want to know what we're right in the middle of, it's in that book.
	Without question, when you are done, you will understand.
	This is Premier Networks.
	That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	on this somewhere in time.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started. So I'm going to start with the first one. So
	I'm going to start with the first one. So I'm going to start with the first one. So
	I'm going to start with the first one.
	And it's alright and it's coming. Oh, we've got to get right back to where we started
	from. Love is good, love is good.
	We gotta get right back to where we started from Do you remember that day?
	That sunny day When you first came my way
	I said no one could take your place And if you get hurt, if you get hurt
	By the little things I do Now we take you back to the past
	On Art Bell Somewhere in Time You guys got it.
	Open lines, unscreened, anything you want to talk about is fair game.
	Might even do that tomorrow night too, I don't know.
	Sound of thunder Listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	tonight featuring coast-to-coast AM from May 29th 1997 by the way on my website famous last words
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	on industry magazine has rated the top 10 talk show hosts in America.
	Actually, they put out two lists.
	They put out one every year that has the top 100 talk show hosts in America.
	And I guess for the last couple of years, they have also now started a top 10 list.
	And without telling you whether I'm on it, Or, if I am where I might be on it, it's on the website.
	So, uh, you might want to take a look.
	If you have a computer, it's www.artbell.com.
	If you don't have a computer but have web TV, it's still www.artbell.com.
	It's in, uh, let's see, it is, as a matter of fact, it is the first item In the latest news and items section on my website right now.
	West of the Rockies, you are on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	This is Bob in Pasco, Washington.
	How you doing?
	Pretty good.
	But we got a problem up here.
	Uh-oh.
	The city of Pasco is determined to pass a mandatory inspection ordinance, which will allow them to inspect our home every two years.
	For what?
	This is for rentals.
	This is for code violations, like if we have exposed wires or, you know, leaky faucets.
	Well, look, when you rent, it's not quite the same thing.
	I'll tell you a little story, OK?
	OK.
	I lived in, for about a year in Las Vegas, in an apartment.
	And I found that the people who owned those apartments had the right, with the master key to come in, And inspect for code or safety violations virtually anytime they wanted to.
	And you know what made me finally move out?
	I had never.
	I mean, I'm really good at paying my bills.
	I pay my bills always ahead of time.
	I'm fanatical about it.
	And so I never, ever missed rent.
	I always paid my rent ahead of time.
	And I've been there about a year.
	And they began a policy Uh, which is the most arrogant thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
	Not only were they doing inspections and walking in, uh, sometimes unannounced, but they began issuing eviction notices, um, 30 days ahead of time.
	So that if you didn't pay your rent, you would have already been served.
	And I told them what they could do with their apartment and I was out of there like a shot.
	Yeah.
	Well, now, do you think this is an invasion of our privacy?
	Yes, I certainly felt invaded, yes.
	I suppose they can make the case that because apartments are connected dwellings, anything unsafe in your apartment endangers somebody else or many other people.
	They can make that case.
	Is it an invasion?
	Yeah.
	Of course, this is going to be for houses that are as rentals, too.
	So, you know, they may not be connected.
	But they're not going to do this to private homes, you know, where the owner is living in the home.
	Right.
	And I just wanted to call you up and let you know that this is going on and maybe we could get some feedback from your audience.
	Well, you feel invaded.
	Thank you.
	I'm sure there will be feedback, sure.
	The story I told you is exactly true about what occurred in Las Vegas, and I told them what they could do with their apartment.
	Oh, by the way, while we're on that subject of general disgruntlement, um, Arch, I think Jesus probably would agree with your stance.
	Talking about revenge here.
	Forgiveness does not necessarily entail lack of punishment.
	If this were the case, Christians would be required to Protest against prisons.
	A good case in... Boy, is he right!
	A good case in point from the Bible is when Jesus ran through the temple, trashing all the moneylenders' tables, and money everywhere.
	I'm sure he forgave them, but under certain circumstances requiring more than turning the other cheek, and certainly Jesus understood that.
	Very, very good point.
	From Christian, the name In St.
	Louis.
	On the international line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, how's it going?
	Just fine.
	Where are you?
	I'm in Vancouver.
	Vancouver.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I just wanted to, like, congratulate you about all the good news you're spreading to everybody about the quickening.
	Well, it depends.
	I don't know if it's good or bad.
	It just is, sir.
	It is, definitely.
	We think it's good news up here, though.
	It's like, you know, kind of a completion, right?
	Well, people keep asking me about that.
	I'm not sure if it's completion or the ending of one thing and the beginning of another.
	Interesting.
	I'm not sure.
	It's an event that's to be soon.
	I don't know.
	To me, it feels kind of like a triumph for mankind, you know?
	That's what I think the quickening's going to be.
	It's just going to be like the grand finale.
	Everybody's just going to love it.
	We're going to find bliss.
	Well, that's the optimistic view.
	Anyway, I wanted to thank you for having Terrence McKenna on the show the other night.
	That was quite interesting.
	I have arranged, you know, we did not repeat that program.
	And I have arranged to have it repeated this coming Sunday night, Monday morning.
	Sunday night, Monday morning.
	You got it.
	All right.
	Well, that's all I wanted to say.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Thank you very much for the call on the international line.
	And again, I'm very, very remiss in not giving that number out as I should.
	It's 800-893-0903.
	800-893-0903 and from anywhere in the world
	Europe, Asia, wherever it is toll free.
	All you do is get the AT&T operator and have her call that number and it won't cost you a penny.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey Art, how you doing tonight?
	Okay.
	This is Paul in Austin, Texas.
	Yes, sir.
	I just wanted to kind of talk about the weather.
	You know, we had these bad tornadoes and everything and we found out today that the National Weather Service upgraded the Gerald tornado to an F5.
	That was an F5, oh my god.
	That is the very top of the category of tornado that can be.
	Yes sir, that's correct.
	They characterize it as being incredible.
	An F4 is like 200 mile per hour winds to 260.
	F5 is simply incredible.
	I saw the The quickness with which the system that produced those tornadoes and that tornado formed, and it was absolutely amazing.
	Anybody who can't look around them right now and see clearly that our weather is changing and not for the better has their eyes shut and their head in the sand.
	Yes, sir.
	It was incredibly quick.
	I had gone to bed about 2 to 3 o'clock that day, and there was one tiny little storm up by Waco, which is, oh, I'd say 80 miles to 100 miles north of Austin, and within an hour and a half it had grown to what, you know, to what had happened.
	So, you know, it is definitely changing, and this is something that's unprecedented in Central Texas.
	It hadn't happened, you know, so we were all taken by surprise, but I guess people's eyes are open now that it can happen anywhere and at any time, so, you know.
	Well, uh, what people have to do, thank you, is prepare.
	They have to prepare.
	It's getting to the point where I'm advising you to prepare.
	I really mean that.
	That doesn't mean go crazy.
	It means have food on hand.
	It means have water on hand, have light, have emergency, um, communications.
	The basics.
	Um, because things are changing.
	And there are going to be more and more people without power and telephone and all the basics that you take for granted because they're always there.
	And believe me, when the weather goes, they are the first to go.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yeah.
	Good morning, Art.
	I just had to hit the switch from the tube radio here.
	Thank you.
	This is Pat in Allendale, Minnesota.
	Did you say tube radio?
	Well, it's a tube amplifier.
	Cool.
	I still love tubes.
	Yeah, I do, too.
	Well, that just happens to be what I have handy to run this thing, and that's the way it is.
	Uh-huh.
	But, uh, you know, you piece things together.
	But, um, you know, a few months ago, um, well, I guess there are a few things to comment on.
	Um, this is pretty much off of everything you've been talking about, but, uh... It's all right.
	You talked about, um, broadcasting by, uh, you know, allowing the general public, I guess, for lack of a better term, maybe we call it amateur broadcasting.
	Pirate radio.
	I mean, until it is declared to be legal, it is pirate radio.
	Right, right, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, what about it?
	You brought up the fact that, well, I guess I've been saying for ten years or more that we ought to have this.
	You know, that the individuals have, individual people have the right to broadcast.
	You know, because certainly we have freedom of the press and freedom of expression and freedom of the press certainly is radio, isn't it?
	Well, I take a middle position, alright?
	In other words, for the sake of proper information dissemination, I don't want to see complete anarchy either in the AM or FM bands.
	However, having said that, I think there are a lot of areas where FM allocations could be given small, low power FM allocations.
	In the present band, I think that the Federal Communications Commission could consider An area, for example, just above the present band in the expansion area, where people could be allowed to put small, low-power stations on the air, and I am a supporter.
	Yeah, I agree with you there.
	I guess I have a question.
	First of all, in your book, is your book going to be available on audio tape?
	Eventually.
	That's an honest answer.
	In other words, you know, Writing a book is an incredible process.
	It takes a lot out of you, and so when you get one done, it's hard to consider another project right away.
	So that's my answer.
	You mentioned your show is going to be starting an hour earlier.
	Correct.
	Now, like, I listen back here on WTAM or WLS, whichever one happens to come in better, and
	I'm here in southern Minnesota, and it carries us over here.
	And so are they going to be starting an hour earlier, too, or how are they going to do that?
	Well, I'm not about the two specific stations, TAM and WLS.
	and the mighty T.A.M.
	and the mighty W.L.S.
	I really can't answer whether they will begin doing that right away or will do it after a while.
	You know, it's on a case-by-case basis.
	In other words, stations have obligations.
	They're going to try to run it earlier.
	Contractual things sometimes take time, so it could be two or three months, or it could happen right away.
	I don't know, to answer your question.
	I'm sorry, I don't.
	OK.
	All right.
	Well, I won't keep you.
	And the weather is certainly changing.
	We have had an unsmooth transition from winter to spring.
	It's just not happening very fast around here.
	I hear that.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	Yep, it's changing, all right.
	Sure it is.
	You can imagine it to be a spike, an abnormally high spike in one direction or the other, you know that the weather is cyclical, and that we are just experiencing an abnormally strong spike of violent weather, or you may conclude that we are in the birth pangs of a permanent Change of heart, I think it's called.
	Actually, there is a book called Change of Heart, and I'm trying to get hold of the lady who wrote that book.
	I had a couple of things I wanted to mention this time.
	One about how the pyramids were possibly built.
	Back in 1980, I read an article in the San Francisco Chronicle.
	Talked about a French chemist who literally got a chip off of one of the old blocks there in Egypt.
	Do you have any idea how illegal that is?
	I mean, to take any artifact away from Giza, I don't know what they do to you for doing that, but probably I don't want to know.
	You know, they take a body part of yours as a souvenir.
	I'm not sure what he lost in trade for this, but maybe they even gave it to him for research.
	I'm not sure.
	But the point was that he took it back to his laboratory and dissolved it in some sort of acid solution.
	Yes.
	And at the bottom of the beaker, there was an inch long human hair.
	And it cleaned the thing off.
	Wow.
	And his only conclusion was that the hair had to have been inside the block, the piece of wood.
	Right.
	And the only way that it could get inside the block would be that the block was molten at some point.
	That would have probably melted the hair.
	No, the heat surmised that it was actually poured like concrete.
	Oh yeah.
	That's what I meant when I said molten.
	Yes, liquid, and he was able to figure out which minerals and whatnot, you know, could be used to do this, and said that, you know, people probably just brought the raw materials in baskets and made a mold and poured them in place.
	It's certainly possible.
	You know, I've heard that theory, and it makes sense, I think, to me.
	Well, it did, you know, and that was 15, 17 years ago, and I've never heard a thing about it since then, so I was just kind of Curious to see whether you'd heard of that or not.
	I had heard of it, yes, and it is indeed very interesting.
	I am so looking forward.
	Actually, you know, we've got two cruises coming up.
	One of them is going to Alaska in August, and that one's coming up pretty quickly now.
	And the other is going to Egypt, and Rome, and Greece, and the Greek islands.
	And the first cruise to Alaska God, I want to get back to Alaska.
	It's been so long.
	It's going to be August 23rd.
	And I think we have one opening there.
	And the second cruise to Egypt is October 1st.
	So, if you would like to come along on either one or both.
	Do you know there are actually some people coming on both of our cruises?
	I'm going to give you the number now.
	You can call.
	Uh, to, uh, ensure that, uh, you do come along.
	And the way it's working now is both of these cruises are full.
	Uh, however, having said that, I think there might be one or two openings in each one at the moment.
	Now that occurs as people book and then decide, and then something happens, you know, they become ill or, uh, they decide, I can't do that.
	Or I have another obligation or, you know, So we're trying to keep you informed as time marches on, and inevitably it does.
	So if you would like to come along on either one of our absolutely incredible cruises, one to Alaska, one to Greece and Rome and Egypt and the pyramids, you need to call the following number after 8 o'clock in the morning Pacific time.
	800.
	Oh, God.
	What is it?
	I've forgotten the number.
	I have forgotten the number for the cruise.
	Oh, no.
	Let's see.
	1-800.
	I've forgotten the number.
	I know the last four.
	71-20.
	I just went through all that, and I have forgotten the number.
	That's real bad news.
	Well, you know, I have so many 800 numbers that I just simply can't remember them all.
	And I certainly don't want to give out the wrong one, so... That was really dumb.
	I forgot the number.
	Alright, so I'll dig the number out and put it on here at the top of the hour.
	Anyway, so if that number... Maybe it's good.
	If that's a number that you've been waiting for, go and get a pencil And a piece of paper.
	And after the top of the hour, I will give that number out.
	The number for the two cruises.
	That's absolutely amazing.
	That's just great.
	Do a whole promo.
	Get down to the critical moment.
	Depend on your memory.
	And there it goes.
	Thank you, Terrence McKenna.
	By the way, we're going to replay that program this weekend.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	More, somewhere in time, coming up.
	You can dance, you can die, having the time of your life.
	Ooh, see that girl, watch that scene, dig it, dancing queen.
	Shining light and the lights are low, looking up for a place to go.
	Mm, where they play the right music, dancing queen.
	In the spring, you'll come to look for the pain Anybody could be...
	Mama, at morning noon I've wholly and deeply surrendered Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
	For the mystery book of the seven, is always repeating itself
	Waterloo, I was defeated once more Waterloo, promise to love me forevermore
	Waterloo, goodness sake Premier Networks presents Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 29th, 1997.
	And, uh, very embarrassing.
	Short-term memory lapse, no doubt.
	Um, I advertised the fact that we might have an opening or two on our cruises coming up before the hour, and I got to the bottom line, you know, the place where you close the deal, and you're sitting there thinking, yeah, I might want to go to Alaska, or I might want to go to Rome, and the Greek Isles, and Egypt and all of that.
	23rd to Alaska.
	October 1st to Egypt.
	And then I forgot the phone number.
	So, here it is.
	You can call after 8 o'clock in the morning.
	There's one or two openings in each one of those cruises, and that's about all.
	And so I sort of let you know about them as they occur.
	If you want to come along, it's going to be a blast.
	You know, we have meetings and autograph things and photographs and all of that, but most of all, They are luxurious, incredible, hamper me cruises.
	Sound of a jet taking off.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	Art, what is going on with the FBI website situation?
	Can you talk about it?
	Chris in Little Rock, Arkansas, listening to KARN.
	P.S., we're all listening to you all night long from the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.
	All right.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I'll talk about anything.
	I don't care.
	Keith, and it was really quite effective, Keith Rowland, decided that it would be a humorous thing following the Heaven's Gate business.
	To put up a, April 1st, he put up an apparent, I'm sure a lot of you saw it, an apparent notice from the FBI, which was a joke.
	It was only a joke, you know, that the website had been shut down.
	And he had a modified FBI seal up there.
	Um, and they, um, they, uh, they didn't like it, um, at all, and so they, uh, fired a letter at us.
	Uh, the FBI wrote a letter, uh, to the, actually Myron McCloud, who, uh, at the time was listed as the administrator.
	I, I think I am now, so I would have received this, uh, if they had the updated information.
	Uh, but the letter from the FBI, uh, let me see, um, I'm not going to read it on the air.
	I'll tell you what, Keith has put it up on the website.
	See now, see here's another reason why you need, you need web TV.
	I'm telling you right now, those of you who don't have web TV, um, you're crazy.
	Web TV is wonderful.
	It's easy.
	One button, boom, and you're on the web.
	Anyway, right now on my website, uh, if you will click on FBI, can't take an April Fool's joke.
	We have indeed done as they have requested, of course.
	It's the Justice Department, right?
	So, we have taken down the joke, which was still visible if you knew where to go.
	And that's all gone, but we have posted the FBI letter to our website.
	It's up there right now, under the category of, under latest news and items, FBI can't take an April Fool's joke.
	So there's quite a bit of new stuff up there.
	You might take a look.
	It's www.artbell.com.
	So yeah, sure, I can talk about it.
	And the other item that I'm talking about, then we're back to open lines here, is revenge.
	Somebody sent me a fax late yesterday morning that hit me pretty hard.
	And I'm willing to talk about it.
	It says, Hi Art, I heard you say the other night that you are Christian.
	Alright, call me then not a Christian, if you wish.
	I'm not really sensitive about whether you think I am or not.
	I don't care.
	I believe in a creator.
	I believe Jesus walked on earth, you know.
	But I don't buy everything sold by every organized religion out there.
	Anyway, he goes on, I also just heard your comments on revenge.
	Not consistent, Art.
	The essence of Christ's message is forgiveness.
	Sincerely, Mike in Campbell, California.
	And I am not one who forgives.
	I get revenge.
	I am a revengeful person.
	Now, I want to be very careful to separate that from a vengeful person.
	I don't go out and initiate, I don't go out and pick fights, but I don't run away from them either.
	And if somebody does something to me, you better stand back because I'm coming after you.
	I've been that way all my life, and I'm never going to change.
	And if that means I'm not a Christian, then I guess I am not a Christian.
	That was from Mike in Campbell, California.
	So there you are, Mike.
	And I thought it worth talking about.
	Hi, Art.
	Here's another one.
	Your comments were great.
	It reminded me of a story.
	The spiritual master telling a student that he's completed freedom to do whatever he wants.
	The student then adds, as long as it doesn't hurt another, the master Disappears for a while, then unknown to the student, the master appears as a vampire!
	The vampire approaches, I haven't read this yet, and requests blood from the spiritual student.
	He, of course, is very scared and tells the vampire, come any closer and he will do the vampire great harm.
	He grabs a weapon and is about to attack the vampire.
	The vampire then says, quote, it will hurt me if you don't give me your blood.
	The student will have no part of this and is ready to do great harm to the vampire.
	The student learned that others can always be harmed by your actions.
	Whether you don't give blood to a vampire or don't give all of your earnings to the starving, every action can be looked upon as harming another.
	We have freedom to do anything.
	But as you stated, the law of karma, action-reaction applies.
	For every action, there is an equal and opposite one that takes place.
	Plant love, and it grows.
	Plant hate, and it grows.
	Feed parasites, and they grow.
	Hmm.
	Take care, Mark.
	And, uh, so my creed is, uh, do unto others as they do unto you.
	Or, um, perhaps, uh, if you consider karma, and there are a lot of people think that, you know, if somebody does something bad to you, it will come back and haunt them times four, five, ten, whatever.
	I say, Help Karma out.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi Art, this is Rick in Tacoma.
	Hello Rick.
	Good show.
	Thanks for keeping me awake on the night shift.
	Well, that's what we're here for, I guess.
	That and coffee.
	Have you seen the price of coffee lately?
	Don't touch the stuff.
	Oh my gosh.
	Cherry Coke is my vice.
	I see.
	Well, it's just... What's the difference between that and coffee?
	Do you know how much caffeine there is in that?
	Well, it tastes alright, but you use the same thing.
	Sure, it's not the caffeine that bothers me, it's the taste of coffee.
	I see.
	I've never been able to get past that.
	Well, it's an acquired taste.
	Acquired by, I might add, by millions, and now it's getting really expensive.
	Wow.
	Starbucks just jacked theirs up, I noticed.
	Oh, it's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	Anywho, a prediction.
	Oh, I like predictions.
	The McVeigh thing goes to jury tomorrow morning.
	Yes.
	There will be a verdict before the end of the weekend.
	I'd say that's a pretty good prediction.
	There might even be a verdict before the end of the day.
	I'd be almost willing to put money on that too.
	So we'll see.
	But juries are strange things and you never know.
	And the difference here is from the outside and the way the press has been reporting this story.
	I think you would have to conclude that they're going to come back with a guilty verdict.
	I have no doubt of that.
	However, without having been able to see the proceedings unfold, there may be something we don't know, and I don't trust the larger press anymore, completely.
	This is also true.
	And so you just never know.
	With that little caveat, yeah, I think it's going to come back quick, too.
	And also a quick suggestion for a guest I think would be really good.
	Who?
	If you can get a hold of Tom Clancy.
	Oh, Tom Clancy promised me an interview.
	In fact, I need to send him some email.
	He said when he finished his last book he'd do an interview with me.
	Hey, Tom!
	Which is good reading, by the way.
	Hey, Tom!
	His latest book is worth getting a hold of.
	I'm a big Clancy fan.
	I thank you, sir.
	Take care.
	Hey, Tom, remember your email?
	You said you'd be a guest.
	You said you couldn't do it while you were writing the book because you really had to concentrate on the book.
	Remember, Tom?
	So come on, Tom.
	Take a few minutes out late at night and come be a guest.
	We would like to talk to you.
	I love what he does.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi, Art.
	Hello.
	This is Jimmy up in Temasket, Washington.
	Hi there.
	I'll tell you something that you talked about.
	Years ago, I worked in Vegas at the old Hughes Terminal.
	Oh, yes.
	And when the charters would come in from Europe, they'd bring in milk and it'd be in triangular pyramid-shaped cartons.
	Really?
	And they said that was to preserve them.
	Even the little creamers were that way.
	I was just wondering, that's maybe those flowers that you advertise in triangular boxes.
	That's why they do that, to keep them fresh.
	I will ask Dexter Yard.
	Pyramid power.
	Right.
	It's one of the great mysteries of all of life, isn't it?
	in a pyramid-shaped carton.
	And I asked one of the stewardesses, I said, what are they for?
	She said, they keep them fresh.
	They just throw them in boxes, and a certain amount of them will stay fresher.
	Well, there is, I really appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	There is, I think, no doubt, that there is something to that.
	Now, I don't know, well, it's one of the great mysteries of all of life, isn't
	it?
	The pyramids.
	How they were built.
	Why they are there.
	What they mean.
	And they are, you know, Giza, there's no question, is a very special place on the planet.
	I am really, really looking forward to going there.
	Art, you are correct when you mentioned those poor people in Texas affected by that tornado.
	I do wonder, though, how something as this occurs, how anyone could believe in a God The one entity who supposedly could have prevented this disaster.
	It's just one example that makes me such an avid atheist.
	Ooh, it's Mark, the atheist, in Louisiana.
	Well, Mark, I'm not sure that God's in the business of preventing the day-to-day occurrences here on Earth, or perpetrating them.
	And when he instilled free will, he probably gave something of the very same sort to Mother Nature and to Earth itself.
	And it is not inconsistent to believe, at least as far as I am concerned, that what we are doing is provoking a change or a quickening.
	Uh, Mark, so, um, even as a disbeliever in God, and you leap, I know, on every opportunity to say that, you know, when somebody is killed, or a child dies, uh, Mark writes to me and says, there is no God.
	You see, you see, you see, he says there is no God.
	I don't, uh, I just don't look at it that way.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
	Yeah, this is, uh, Austin from, uh, Kansas.
	Yes, sir?
	And I'm really glad to be back on the road again where I can listen to you tonight.
	I've enjoyed your show.
	Thank you.
	And I also wanted to, I don't know if this would be considered a commercial blurb, but to thank you for the Always Fresh Flowers commercial, because I did that.
	And I do wellside geology.
	I sit out when we drill the wells and look at the cuttings and evaluate.
	And that one year that I sent that to my wife, I had gone 266 days.
	So I had them deliver it at a given time, at 1.30 p.m., I think, or, yeah, in the afternoon.
	I called her about a quarter till two, and she's crying.
	And I think, you know, wow, what's happened now?
	And I finally got her to where she could be I try to tell people that's how women react.
	It's beautiful and it blew me away.
	You know, just flowers, a simple gesture.
	I try to tell people that's how women react.
	It's a guaranteed fact and we've done that since then with other people too.
	Just a pleasant surprise, a way of saying, hey, we think about you and I hear something
	beautiful for you.
	And it's amazing.
	Well I sincerely appreciate that and it's a better advertisement than I could ever do.
	Well, thank you sir, but I do enjoy your show and the six-legged frogs.
	I live along Crooked Creek in Meade County, Kansas, and the school kids found some six-legged frogs back in the fall.
	I was going to fax you the article, and then I got shifted where I stayed on Rome, so I did not want to use my cell phone to fax through.
	But I've got an overflow pond for my windmill that's full of pollywogs, and I'm eagerly awaiting their maturity.
	Well, good luck to you, sir, in your endeavor.
	And the way things are going these days, I think you won't have a problem.
	You'll probably find them.
	Some of these deformities are very serious.
	Very, very serious.
	And the ones that worry me the most Are the ones now being reported in the Antarctic regarding the singular or simple-celled creatures which are showing not just physical deformities but actual genetic change.
	There really is a big, there's a gulf, a mile wide between deformity problems that you can argue might be parasites and genetic change that is produced by By increased ultraviolet radiation in all probability.
	That is something you had better think about really, really hard.
	I have been.
	It is part of what I call the quickening.
	And I wrote a lot about it in there.
	So, again, if, you know, they're going like hotcakes now.
	They're going like crazy.
	The second printing is here, is being shipped now.
	In other words, if you call, they ship the book now.
	And you can still get an autographed copy of The Quickening, if you want one, for now.
	And I'm going to stop this soon.
	Because a hand can only take so much.
	But if you want an autographed copy, a first edition autographed copy, We're ready to ship.
	The number is 1-800-864-7991.
	It's a very important book.
	And you know, so far, I've had a lot of good reaction and good reviews on the book, but what I have not had is what I expected was a lot of anger.
	And I think the reason that I haven't had a lot of anger yet is because you cannot refute facts.
	While there is some fiction in the book that I wrote, usually at the beginning of the chapter, to illustrate where we think this particular condition is leading, human condition or environmental condition, while there is some fiction which, you know, makes it very interesting, there is also a wealth of factual material.
	That is backed up and I think the reason that so far we have not experienced a lot of anger in response is because it's very hard to be angry when you're reading facts, when you can't deny them, when the sources are listed and that's the case in my book.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, hi.
	Hey Art, this is Chris in Atlanta.
	Yes sir, WGST.
	Yeah, real happy you were here.
	I used to have to kind of juggle in Cleveland.
	I was just interested in alternative health, and I was just wondering about a couple of guests I wondered if you ever had.
	Have you ever had Patrick Flanagan on before?
	Familiar name, but I don't think so.
	Patrick was one of these guys that was like at 17, was experimenting with rockets and that kind of thing, and he invented like a neurophone, which Well, he sounds like my kind of guy.
	Do you have... No, but I... Look, I'm willing to entertain, and as you must know by now, even in the short time listening there, I'll have anybody on the air.
	ever had him on? No, but I look I'm willing to entertain and as you must know by now even
	in the short time listening there I'll have anybody on the air. He's in somewhere around
	Sedona and the other guy is Christopher Hills. Since the other night you were talking a lot
	of I think with Wayne Green you got talking about consciousness.
	And I believe from everybody I've read about, Dr. Hills knows more about consciousness than anybody.
	All right, here's what I would ask.
	Thank you very much, and I'm glad to have them on, but help me out, if you would please.
	And here's what I'm asking.
	I'm asking that if you want to guess on, I'm happy to have them on, but... And it's a big but.
	If you have any contact information for them, please send that along as well.
	Because trying to track somebody down just with a name, without a publisher, without some kind of contact number, let me tell you, that's a rough road to hoe.
	So if anybody has any contact information, please include that.
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	Don't leave me this way I can't survive, I can't save a life without your love
	Oh baby, don't leave me this way I can't survive, I can't save a life without your love
	Red roses too I see them bloom For me and you And I think to myself What a wonderful world I see skies of blue And clouds of white The bright blessed day The dark sacred night And I think to myself What a wonderful world The colors of the rainbow So pretty in the sky
	Are also on the faces of people going by.
	I see friends shaking hands, saying how they do.
	They're really saying, I love you.
	I hear babies cry.
	I watch them grow.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 29th, 1997.
	God, I love this song.
	I really do.
	Ran at the end of 12 Monkeys, and ever since then.
	Good morning everybody, this is Coast to Coast AM.
	Now, we take you back to the past on Arkbell Somewhere in Time.
	In this video, we take you back to the past on Arkbell Somewhere in Time.
	you East of the Rockies, you're on the air, top of the morning.
	Hello?
	Hello!
	Arkbell?
	Yes, sir.
	I don't believe it.
	Well, you're going to have to try.
	I have a question.
	Okay, where are you first?
	This is Michael from Houston.
	Yes, sir.
	When you had, was it Major Ed Daines?
	Yes, yes.
	And you were talking and said he had a tape about remote viewing?
	Yes.
	Do you know anything about that?
	When he's going to put it out?
	I know that it was supposed to be out by now.
	Yes, sir.
	I got a letter from him.
	Oh, you got a letter?
	Yeah, he said it was supposed to be out in April.
	I haven't heard anything since April.
	That's right, so it was delayed.
	I know that.
	I'll try and contact Ed or Ed send me something telling me when it is going to be out and I'll put out the information.
	Some guys out here at work, we work shift work, we all went in together and bought the first tape.
	We're still waiting on it.
	I want to ask you a question.
	Let us presume that you get the tape and you become proficient in remote viewing.
	Let's say it's able to do that for you.
	Yeah.
	What are you going to do with the technology?
	I have no earthly idea.
	See, that's what scares me.
	Yeah, I understand that, but I listen to your show all the time, and I listened to that show that night, and it just really interested me that somebody could do something like that.
	I know.
	I don't have any idea what I would do with it.
	Well, then do this for me.
	After you get the tape, and if you're able to do it, call me and tell me what you did with it.
	Surely.
	Yes.
	In the meantime, we'll get word from Ed, and when I do, I will get it on the air.
	Yeah, I've wondered about that.
	All of those remote viewers out there, all of those disembodied people floating about, looking at this and that.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Yeah, good morning, Art.
	Hi.
	I figured out why Clinton, Gore, and Bush agree with giving Red China first-class trade status.
	Why?
	Because they are jealous that Red China has slave labor.
	I don't agree with that.
	It sure seems that way.
	Well, I don't agree with it, and look, I don't think That including China as a preferred trading partner means that they're jealous of slave labor.
	There is slave labor in China.
	I'm not naive.
	As a matter of fact, I was there.
	As a matter of fact, let me tell you a little story about China.
	When you're in communist China, and I was, they provide you with a tour guide.
	A state tour guide, okay?
	You know, and they provide you with two or three people who are on the tour who are working for the state, if you follow me.
	So they monitor very carefully what's going on.
	And I sat up at the front of the bus with the state tour guide, you know, at a microphone.
	He was answering questions as we were on our way further and further into inland China, mainland China.
	And I asked him, is it true or is it not?
	That prisoners in China are forced to make products.
	That there is forced labor.
	And he stopped for a moment.
	Everybody on the bus with me will remember this.
	And he said, oh no.
	Oh no, not in China.
	He said, the only kind of work that prisoners do is what they volunteer for.
	You know, and I kept looking for where the microphone was because there was one there somewhere.
	And so once he answered that question that way, I just gave up.
	I mean, I realized I was going to get the state line from then on in.
	Oh no, only volunteers.
	You know, people volunteer their kidneys on request and that sort of thing.
	Volunteers.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art, Tim, and Denver.
	Hello, Tim.
	How you doing?
	I'm doing fine.
	I've got just a couple announcements about the Art Bell Chat Club, if I may.
	All right.
	The Sells, the Colts.
	The Sells, the Colts.
	First of all, we have a new toll-free number.
	If anyone is interested in contacting us, it's absolutely free now.
	You have a toll-free number now?
	We sure do.
	That means you've come up in the world.
	We've come up just a little bit.
	What is this toll-free number?
	It's 1-800.
	Oh, you've got an 800 number?
	I didn't see you get those anymore.
	Actually, I was very lucky.
	They had just a couple 888 numbers, but I did get an 800 number for the club.
	four five one five one eight hundred eighty one
	four five one five and this will get you information for any of our art bell
	check clubs san antonio austin so the florida
	or the main uh... copper and denver or if you want to form your own cell
	exactly if you'd like to form your own club is that we have clubs uh...
	starting all over the country there might be a club in your area already
	forming and just hasn't got to the stage where they are having their first
	meeting yet But I do want to thank Keith Rowland.
	He's put us up front on the webpage and did a terrific write-up.
	Oh, he's great.
	Keith is great.
	Did you read the FBI thing, by the way, Tim?
	I sure did.
	I guess they really can't take a joke, huh?
	No, they sure can't.
	And if I can, Lynn Buchanan and his staff, the remote viewer, I want to thank them for contacting me about his presentation.
	He's going to be in Denver in July and we're working on possibly getting together with Mr. Buchanan and also the people at Llewellyn Press and Publications up in St.
	Paul.
	Maynard Fries up there has been giving me lists and lists of speakers that are just Absolutely very interested in coming.
	Well, this is this is actually why I support what you're doing, Tim.
	As I've told you on the air before, I don't want Art Bell fan clubs.
	To hell with that.
	I don't need them.
	But you know, the way you're doing it is the right way.
	You're forming these clubs and then you're having people come and talk to you about the things we talk about on the air.
	Now, to me, that makes sense.
	And and I really like it.
	So I hope it continues to grow.
	All right.
	So the eight hundred number one eight hundred.
	8-8-1-4-5-1-5.
	And you can either find out if there is a club in your area, A, or B, how to form one, huh?
	Exactly.
	And one more thing.
	I've got to thank Bob and Sue Crane.
	They have been terrific.
	They've been supporting the Chatty Club.
	They advertise in our newsletter.
	I can call Sue up and say, Sue, I need two dozen catalogs because we have new clubs forming.
	And we have C Crane catalogs.
	Of course, we have Past publications of your newsletter, if people would like to take a gander at it, see exactly what kind of information is available.
	We have your books available.
	That's the kind of thing, our brochures to Alaska, I try to keep those stocked up.
	So if a person hasn't had an opportunity to get that kind of information, we have them available at the clubs and we kind of keep that kind of stuff stocked.
	That would be the Ardbell paraphernalia.
	That's right, Ardbell paraphernalia.
	Well, thank you.
	And again, take care, Tim.
	The reason you got it is because of the way you're doing it.
	I really don't want fan clubs out there.
	I really don't.
	I think it's kind of dumb anyway.
	uh... we could have done this with the without your support well thank you are
	and again uh... take your time the reason you got it is because
	of the way you're doing it uh... i really don't want fan clubs out there
	i really don't think it's kind of dumb anyway uh...
	and i don't know what you do in a fan club will be removed his career something
	uh... however to be dealing with the material that we deal with on this
	program Now you're dealing in substance and I think it's a really,
	really good idea.
	And it does seem to turn out that a lot of people that come on the program end up going and doing presentations in person at these so-called chat clubs.
	And so that's valuable.
	I mean, that's really neat, I think.
	Okay, so again, the number is 1-800-881.
	4-5-1-5.
	Neat.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello, Alex.
	How's it going tonight?
	It's going along just fine.
	That's good.
	This is Alice in Kennewick, Washington.
	Yes, Alice.
	And I was wondering if you'd heard anything lately from Gordon Michael Scallion.
	I've got a message into Gordon right now.
	Gordon is not doing much in public, period.
	Uh, so, when he decides to become public, he will be here.
	Good.
	He promises me, but Gordon is a very unusual person, ma'am, and, uh, he goes through long periods where what he has done affects him physically and psychologically.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	So, that's all I can tell you.
	Okay.
	All right, well, that's what I wanted to know.
	When I know, I guarantee you, you will know.
	Well, good.
	Good.
	Well, we love your show.
	Keep up the good work.
	Thank you.
	Thanks.
	See you later.
	Uh, yes, you will know when I know.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air, hi.
	Hello, Art Bell?
	Turn the radio off, please.
	Well, okay, I'm using a ghetto blaster tonight.
	Normally, I do use a vacuum tube receiver.
	Yeah, well then, turn off the ghetto blaster.
	Yeah, well, I did.
	Okay, thank you.
	Like I say, normally, I'm an electronics buff, and I build kind of the stuff, and I usually use a National SW3, which is a 1933 regenerative receiver.
	A National SW3, wow.
	$70 AWA get a blaster because, very frankly, I am in the other room and... Well, pun intended, sir.
	Whatever gets you through the night.
	There you go.
	I wanted to ask you about something that I think was pretty... Oh, the Flower Deal.
	Yes.
	And not to divert from that, I went to see a band called the Jazz Passengers here about, oh, three months ago.
	Right.
	This being a group that, they're a jazz group from New York and they Long story short, they've got Deborah Harry singing with them nowadays.
	Really?
	Yeah, she does.
	And you know what?
	What?
	Just as it happened, as I was walking past there, there was some flowers for sale.
	I thought, you know, on the off chance that I'd get into, you know, actually, you know, good talk to her or something like that, I just bought one.
	And I got in there and wound up, the place wasn't terribly packed.
	They did the show, which they were very good, by the way.
	And so afterwards, I'm about ready to walk out, and there's this huge commotion, and she's over there on the stage signing autographs.
	I walk up there and quietly queue up, you know, and there's all these people.
	Anyways, I give her this flower, and she just, oh, she went nuts.
	She loved it.
	Well, there you are.
	These females just love them flowers.
	I know.
	Boy, Debra Harris, she's a cutie.
	She's a good-looking guy.
	She's not a teenager anymore, I must tell you.
	No, well, you know, it passes.
	Yeah, she's, when I was in high school, and that was a long time ago, she was a big thing.
	So I finally got to meet her and talk to her, and she was pretty intelligent.
	She's into some of the things that you talk about on the show.
	I've read her book, the one she did with Chris Stein and the other guy.
	And she's into the various things that, I guess, Art Bellion type material.
	Is that a proper term?
	Art Bellion type material?
	Um, I don't know.
	Thank you.
	Bellion-type material.
	Let me think about that.
	It's just material.
	It just happens to be I'm the one who is pressing investigation into these matters.
	Bellion material.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	Hi.
	This is Brett Cohen from Ohio.
	Yes, sir.
	I can't believe I got on.
	Everybody seems to say that.
	Well, you've got so many affiliates on the eastern half of the U.S.
	now that it's pretty tough for us to get through.
	It is certainly true, but at least you have your own separate line.
	Imagine if you didn't.
	Right, right.
	Okay, well, a couple of things I wanted to talk about.
	A couple of weeks ago you were talking about movies that you'd watch over and over again.
	And the movie that I love to watch over and over again is Braveheart with Mel Gibson.
	You're right, that's definitely in that category?
	Yeah, I believe it's the best movie I've ever seen.
	I also want to talk to you about the Oklahoma bombing.
	Okay.
	There's a guy that you know, his name is Bob Fletcher.
	Yes, that would be the Montana Militia, or at least he was.
	Yeah, he's formerly with Montana Militia.
	Right.
	I did a video, or he's in possession of a video, I haven't seen it yet, where he says that the video contains footage of him taking two more bombs out of the building after the blast.
	Okay, that I haven't seen.
	I certainly clearly recall after the initial blast, I sat there like everybody else watching on CNN, as they cleared city blocks around because They said they had located more bombs inside.
	Right.
	If you examine the structural nature of the damage, and try to compare it to the crater, and other aspects of the explosion, not everything adds up, and there may well have been something inside.
	Now, does that lead where Mr. Fletcher might imagine it leads or not?
	I don't... I don't know that proves that.
	In other words, who put them there?
	Okay, there were some real quick points here that I want to point out that it doesn't seem like it's ever been brought up on your show.
	That truck bomb that went off, I mean, it's way too small to do the damage to that building that was done to it.
	I mean, if you're going to have a blast, it's going to take down part of a building like that, didn't it?
	Yeah, but see, what you're saying is where Fletcher no doubt was trying to lead, and That the government planted its own explosives, and I'm not buying that for a second.
	I think there may have been more explosives involved, and we may never be able to prove one way or the other whether there were or not.
	Okay, well that's one of the things I wanted to point out here, is that the ATF, all the ATF guys, they were cleared out of that building.
	That's not a true statement.
	It is not?
	There were a majority who were out for a function.
	But there were ATFs that were in that building, sir.
	Yeah, and they lied about where they were, too, because their stories never checked out.
	Well, I mean, look, the statements you're making, you're misleading people.
	You're saying all the ATFs were gone.
	No, they weren't.
	Well, one of them claimed to be in an elevator, but they could never come up with enough evidence that that was really true.
	And also, there are a lot of lawsuits.
	People that lost relatives in that bombing, they have lawsuits against the government because they knew about it in advance.
	Well, prove it.
	Well, I know, but I'm saying that these attorneys would not be filing lawsuits against the government.
	Oh, baloney!
	Us attorneys will file lawsuits against anybody you pay them to file lawsuits against.
	Give me a break.
	Well, the truck that Tim McVeigh rented was not the truck that blew up.
	The evidence is to the contrary again, I'm sorry.
	Also, one last thing I want to get into is that there was a woman that had a lot of, how was her last name?
	Have you heard about this?
	I don't know.
	The defense attorneys wanted her to testify, and naturally the judge would not let her testify.
	Why?
	With respect to?
	Because she had a lot of information about who really did the bombing.
	Well, so it is said.
	Look, I was not in the courtroom.
	You were not in the courtroom.
	Cameras were not in the courtroom.
	This is a whole bunch of second-guessing as far as I'm concerned.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	More somewhere in time coming up.
	Looking for a soul to steal.
	He was in a bind because he was way behind.
	He was willing to make a deal.
	When he came across this young man sewing on a fiddle and playing it hot.
	And the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, boy, let me tell you what.
	I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
	And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
	Now, you play pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the devil his due.
	I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, because I think I'm better than you.
	The boy said, my name's Johnny.
	Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
	Good morning.
	Thought I'd warm it up a little bit.
	It's open lines all morning long, folks.
	Anything you want to do is fair game under the moonlight.
	Close your eyes.
	Tell me how you want me.
	I can feel it in your heartbeat.
	I know you like what you see.
	I don't do dedications, you know.
	Call me.
	Bus for Rosalie.
	I'll give you all that you need.
	That's your lover, that's the beat So excited I can feel you getting hotter
	Oh baby, you're so hot Well, you're gonna like this one
	I'll take you down Scientists, uh, this is the Associated Press, folks.
	Scientists have managed to insert a large chunk of human DNA into mice.
	They call it an astonishing breakthrough that will allow a new generation of research into genes, birth defects, and genetic diseases.
	And of course, that is the upside.
	The downside?
	Well, I'm sure it couldn't happen, but imagine the horror of a human face and a mouse body!
	I wonder what a cat would think of that.
	Ha ha ha ha.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	Okay, here we go again.
	East of the Rockies, you are upon the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello.
	Going once, going twice, gone.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Yes.
	Turn your radio off.
	Yes, Art.
	Yes, yes.
	On behalf of my father, who wants to know about rods, if you have any information on rods.
	He hasn't heard about it in quite a while.
	Jose Escamilla is the rod guy, and we'll have him back on the air pretty soon.
	Is there any new information on rods?
	Yes, there is.
	And Jose has it, and I will have Jose Escamilla back on the air in due time, and there will be more on Rod's.
	Okay.
	One more question.
	Sure.
	About your bumper music, are you taking any requests?
	Do you have to get permission for that?
	Well, I mean, I'm always willing to consider, but pretty much what I do is just I play stuff that I like.
	Really?
	Well, I guess that's the best bet then.
	What are you talking about here?
	Spacey music.
	We need some spacey music, brother.
	Spacey music?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	There's a bunch of stuff out there.
	I was just wondering if you maybe would accept a tape or something like that?
	Yes, always.
	Okay.
	Alright, I don't guarantee to play it.
	Thank you.
	There's a guy really angry with me right now because I won't play a song.
	And, you know, I accept submissions.
	But that doesn't automatically mean I'm going to play it.
	And people, you know, I guess they're under the misimpression that if they send something, it's automatically going to get played.
	That's just not true.
	If I really like a piece of music, I play it.
	If I don't, I don't.
	And if that drives you to distraction and anger, I don't in any way mean to insult you.
	You know, years ago, I did music radio.
	I was a music director at one time.
	You picked music according to your music taste buds, that's all.
	And just because I don't pick it doesn't mean it isn't good and you shouldn't be insulted.
	It just means that it didn't strike a chord with me.
	But I'll listen, you bet.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey, Art.
	Yes?
	Hey, what ever happened to your Levitron commercials?
	Well, they're on Dreamland.
	Oh, they're on Dreamland?
	Right now, Levitron's running on Dreamland, but Levitron is still absolutely available.
	Oh, yeah, I got one.
	It took me a while to get it going, but...
	How much frustration did you experience?
	Well, I can get it flying if someone else can spin it for me.
	I just can't spin it.
	I think only women can spin it.
	No, that's not true.
	Did you know that they've got an automatic spinner?
	Really?
	Yes, sir.
	Oh, wow.
	A little thing you just put in and you punch it and it spins it.
	Oh, that's what I have to get.
	See, there you are.
	Ask and ye shall receive.
	You know, I had a question about your first sighting, your triangle sighting.
	Yes.
	Now, do you remember details of how it looked?
	I will never forget any detail of that, sir.
	Details on the outside of the ship?
	The craft was solid black.
	It was against a clear night with a nearly full moon.
	And although I can't say that I saw windows and guys waving, I clearly saw the skin of the craft.
	I mean, it was that close.
	Wow.
	It was right over my head.
	You know, I mean, we're talking classic stars go away, moon goes away, craft passes directly over you.
	Serious, serious encounter.
	Yeah, well, I've seen several of those out in the Borrego, ends of Borrego Desert, but they're usually pretty high up.
	Oh no, this one was low, slow, and deadly silent.
	So when it passed over you, I mean, did you have any time loss or anything?
	You know, it's funny you should mention that.
	None that I know of, but I was in such a state, even with my second sighting, same deal, I was in such a, it's like you're in some sort of suspended state of belief.
	I can't even describe it to you, you just, everything stops, so I'm not exactly sure.
	Maybe some hypnosis or something, you know?
	Yeah, who knows?
	I mean, nothing that I know of.
	But you must admit, I'm weird.
	Right.
	Right?
	So, yeah, you never know.
	Well, yeah, a lot of people who see things, they remember memory loss, or time loss, and these memories start coming back.
	Maybe it'll happen.
	Yeah, maybe.
	One night when I'm on the air, I'll start to go, Oh my God!
	Oh, the needles!
	I remember now, suddenly!
	Something will key it for me.
	You could say, I didn't ask for the anal probe or something.
	Please.
	This conversation is going downhill now.
	Right.
	Thank you for the call.
	All right.
	Take care.
	I could make a comment about pretendedness, but I won't.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Mr. Bell?
	Yes, sir.
	I have a situation for you that I need to talk about.
	Okay.
	My mother is a listener of your show, and not knowing who else to talk to, I thought you might have some answers for me.
	I might.
	I go to a state-run school, a state-run college in California.
	Right.
	And my job is, I'm on the work-study program.
	I do clerical work for the psychology department, and I asked for extra hours, and they told me that there weren't any hours available, but that I could earn money doing lab experiments, doing experiments as a subject for the graduate students in experimental psychology.
	Now, wait a minute.
	You were one of those subjects?
	We're employed to do testing on them.
	No, I was employed as a subject.
	As a subject.
	Because I work in the department, within the department, just doing... And what, pray tell, were they testing?
	Clerical, just doing clerical work.
	What were they testing?
	What they, they didn't tell us.
	They told us they were, we, that each of us was part of one of two groups, and one of us was going to be, I mean, they didn't tell us, but I knew the drill.
	So each little group got to drink some pink bubbling juice, and one group just got pink bubbling tainted juice, while It's just pills, actually.
	It was pills?
	Pills.
	Yeah.
	And I assumed that one group was the placebo group, and one group was... Yeah, control, and that's the way it works, yeah.
	Right, because I work in the department, so... Yes, and so what do you think happened?
	Nothing happened for, I'd say, a week, and then it started happening is that every...
	Well, not quite every night, but I'll say every two nights.
	No, more than that, maybe five or six times a week.
	Hair began growing on your palms.
	Actually, I lose hours.
	You lose hours?
	I lose hours.
	The nights, it generally happens about this time, which is why I wanted to call, around 2 to 3 a.m.
	I don't know.
	I find myself the next morning, 9, 10, I'm not asleep, I'll find myself walking around the elevator.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You said it occurs between 2 and 3?
	Generally.
	Really?
	What time is it there now?
	It's... 2... 2.15.
	Which is why I wanted to call now.
	No it isn't, it's 4.08.
	My clock says it's 2.15.
	It's 4.08.
	It's 4.08 in California?
	No, in Nevada, which is the same as California.
	It's happening.
	I'm just kidding, sir.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, you panicked me there for a while.
	I thought maybe my clock was in on it, too.
	No, it's still, it's actually coming up on 2-16.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's a little better.
	How many times have you lost time?
	Um, probably ten.
	Do you have any pills left?
	No.
	No, we just got it.
	We went in three days in a row and they gave us two pills each time.
	Wow.
	What a cool story.
	So what are you going to do?
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	I don't know what to suggest.
	I don't know what to say.
	With no evidence, with none of the people... How about any of the other people that were involved in the experiment?
	Can you get a hold of them?
	I don't know who else was involved in the experiment because there are no files now.
	I can't... at least none that I can find.
	There's nothing in the computer records of these experiments that I was personally involved in.
	Oh, that's really intriguing.
	I'm not sure that I would enlist for a specified amount of money to take an unknown something or another, you know, pink bubbling stuff, whatever.
	I don't think so.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Arbel?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I guess persistence pays off.
	My name is Dean.
	Hi, Dean.
	And I'm calling from Bossier City, Louisiana.
	Bossier City, Louisiana.
	Report.
	All right.
	And I'm an over-the-road truck driver.
	Yes, sir.
	My son got me turned on to you here about three weeks ago, and I guess I've become somewhat of an addict.
	Well, I don't know if that's good, because that makes people think cult, you know?
	Don't say addict.
	I like the show.
	I enjoy the show.
	Yeah.
	I love your show, especially the ones with, um, I can't remember the man's name from,
	uh, Oregon?
	With the, uh, UFO...
	Listing post?
	Or...
	Oh, no, no, no, it's it.
	It's Washington.
	You're talking about Peter Davenport from the UFO Reporting Center in Seattle.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, we have him on.
	You know, when things are popping, Davenport's our guy.
	He sits in the hot seat up there and takes the calls.
	You know, he gives us the breaking news.
	When it happens, you'll hear it here.
	Yeah, I really enjoy your shows, especially on those.
	But I do have one question for you.
	Sure.
	What is your opinion of the, not isolationists, but the separationists, like the people from Texas, those that are looking to break away?
	Yeah, break away.
	Especially from our government.
	Okay.
	I'm glad to give you my take on it, if you'll listen.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I've got different views on that.
	I do not... I am not in sympathy with what they want to do.
	I understand their frustration and their cynicism and why they are feeling the way they feel.
	But deep down, for all its troubles, I still love this country, you know?
	And I still believe in our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and all that sort of thing.
	I really, really do.
	And I think that if states or localities began to break away, that it would be the end of all that.
	We are a union, and if we begin to do things that destroy and tear apart that union, there may not be another chance for something Flawed though it may be, as good as we have right now.
	So that's my take on it.
	I don't agree with them, but I do understand how they have come to believe as they do.
	I don't know if that answers your question, but that is my opinion.
	In other words, I want the union to remain together.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi Art.
	Hello.
	I have been trying to get a hold of you for about I think a year now.
	A year.
	It's a long time.
	All right.
	Where are you?
	This is Kim from Medford, Oregon.
	From where?
	Medford, Oregon.
	Oh, Medford, Oregon.
	All right.
	Yes.
	Oh, Medford, of course.
	I wanted to kind of voice my opinion about the gun control thing.
	Sure.
	I heard you mention something about it last night.
	I asked Wayne Green about it, and he seemed to be generally in favor of gun control.
	And I guess I'm kind of just the opposite.
	Yeah, me too.
	To me, gun control is a good steady hand.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	If you really think about it, all of the crimes that are caused by guns Oh, no.
	No, they're not.
	They're caused by people with guns.
	Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
	The people who cause a lot of crimes with guns, their guns a lot of times come from underground anyways.
	I buy them on the black market.
	They don't have them legally registered or anything anyways.
	And the only thing the gun control is going to do is going to monitor more The citizens who are legally getting their guns and stuff.
	That's correct.
	That is the traditional view.
	In other words, when we have complete gun control, the saying goes, only the criminals will have guns, and that is absolutely correct.
	Look, this is not... Even forget the Bill of Rights.
	We have, in my opinion, a God-given right to protect ourselves with a force equal to that likely to be used against us.
	And that is lethal force, and we're talking guns here.
	So, as far as I'm concerned, we have a God-given right to have a gun to protect ourselves with if we need it or want it.
	That's all.
	Definitely.
	Okay, well... And did you hear about the... It's a county... I can't remember where it is exactly now, because it's been a while since I heard about it.
	Kennesaw in Georgia, where you have to have a gun, right?
	Exactly!
	Yeah, and their crime rate... Way low.
	Yeah.
	Okay, thank you.
	The rate is also way low in areas that allow, with some training, concealed permits.
	It's undeniable.
	You know, I think conversations about gun control are almost not worth having.
	Almost not worth having.
	And that's an almost because there are so many people pressing for it, so it forces the issue.
	But I mean, to me, it's a no-brainer.
	It's a no-brainer.
	You've got a right to have a gun.
	To protect yourself against somebody who would use that kind of force against you.
	I believe very strongly in that.
	And the only time it's worth arguing is when you have some complete mental midget come and try to argue something else.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Amanda from Wisconsin.
	Where?
	Wisconsin.
	Wisconsin, all right.
	Yes.
	I heard your show a couple months ago with Sarah McClendon.
	Yes.
	Oh, I really liked it.
	And then I got the chance to meet her.
	Sarah McClendon is something else.
	Oh, she's amazing.
	She's really funny.
	She's hilarious.
	She's awesome.
	And she mentioned that she's going to be on again.
	Do you know when that is?
	She said she'd come on any time I ask her.
	And the cool thing, you know what's really neat about interviewing people like Sarah?
	It's like interviewing Barry Goldwater.
	And a few other people.
	They're older now, they don't give a, you know what, and they'll say whatever's on their mind.
	And those kind of people are really fun to interview.
	Exactly, yep.
	She was pretty opinionated, but, you know, it's great.
	It was a lot of fun getting to talk to her, and I only got to talk with her for a little bit, but it was amazing.
	She is the Duchess, I won't say Dean, of the White House Press Corps.
	And I will have her on again, you can be sure.
	Alright, thanks a lot.
	Alright, take care.
	Yeah, she's a blast.
	I like interviewing people who are out on the edge.
	And Sarah, in her own way, certainly is.
	She asks provocative, thorn-in-the-side questions.
	And she does so... Well, she's kind of the female counterpart of Sam Donaldson, in some ways.
	I don't know if she'd like that analogy.
	Uh, but she is a thorn in the side and proud of it.
	She's really a neat lady.
	Very neat lady.
	You know, she's an original and I really enjoy interviewing originals.
	There are so many copies out there and so few originals.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	I refuse to start out the conversation the way most of your callers do.
	By saying, how are you?
	Yes, how are you tonight?
	Or, I can't believe I finally got through.
	Well, this is a rare insight for a first-time caller.
	Well, I'm a first-time caller, but a long-time listener.
	Where are you?
	I'm calling from Carson City, and that's in Nevada for your out-of-state listeners.
	Yes, it is.
	Yes, it is.
	Listen, a couple of comments.
	First of all, the price of coffee definitely is outrageous.
	Outrageous.
	I know, and I'm a coffee drinker, and I don't intend to put up with it.
	Now, what can we do?
	I don't know, but you know, I think it's another one of those sin taxes.
	You mean coffee is now going to become sinful?
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	Well, there are some people that would tell you it's a sin to drink coffee.
	Oh, well, they're full of it.
	And speaking of sins, another comment I would like to make.
	I'm very disturbed by the gall of some of your listeners who feel that they have the right to call and criticize your spiritual views.
	Oh, they do.
	Well, I know.
	I know they have the right to do it, but I don't believe that they should be justified in their feeling that they have the right to do that, and yet call themselves Christians.
	Ah, they probably all drink coffee.
	Yes, and on the other hand, you shouldn't have to defend your youth in that respect.
	But that's not why I called.
	Well, now that is a famous line.
	See, now that's not why I called.
	There is a classic line.
	All right, well, if we're going to find out why you did, you're going to have to hold on because we're at the bottom of the hour.
	That also isn't classified.
	Oh, I can do that.
	All right, then.
	Sit tight in Carson City.
	The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	More somewhere in time coming up.
	I don't.
	I'm.
	K.K and Ellen K.K and Ellen
	ELLEN KEN
	K.K K.K
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 29th, 1997.
	Welcome to the program, those of you who join at this hour.
	Anything is possible tonight, anything at all.
	Who knows?
	But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 29th, 1997.
	Thanks for watching.
	All right, now, back to, that's not why I called, but here she is.
	Why did you call, huh?
	You are definitely on a roll tonight.
	Well, what prompted my call is that you have this lilt in your voice tonight.
	I do?
	That is more prominent than I've heard before.
	A lilt?
	A lilt.
	Well, for lack of a better word.
	It may not be the... As in, I'm lilting?
	Well, you're not wilting, no, but you might be milting.
	Well, you know, that is true about me.
	I mean, I am pretty much different every night.
	I don't hide my moods and try to be the same every day or, you know, I'd go crazy.
	I've noticed that.
	But there was something in your tone tonight that was very reminiscent to me of the way I get when The quickening, so to speak, threatens to overwhelm me, and that's what prompted my call, because I wanted to tell you that I really appreciate the fact that you wrote that book.
	I haven't gotten it yet.
	I've ordered it, but I haven't gotten it yet.
	But a good number of years ago, I noticed that things were changing, and they were changing more rapidly.
	And I started keeping a journal as I do.
	I started keeping track of all of these things and when it got to the point where the lists were several pages long, I quit.
	And then when we finally got into an area where we could pick up your program and you were talking about your book, I thought, isn't that wonderful?
	I'm not the only one that noticed.
	That's right.
	The book came out, the first printing, and I guess I knew it would do well, but I've got to tell you, I was blown away, my publisher was blown away, everybody concerned and around it was blown away.
	It went in two weeks, and it was ridiculous, and it's because it's a mass feeling.
	And a lot of people have not been communicating it to each other.
	That's right.
	But the minute they hear it described, they go, yeah, you know, that's exactly what I feel.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	It's very real and it needs to be addressed.
	It needs to be acknowledged because until people acknowledge the fact that we are on a roller coaster ride right now, it's not going to change.
	I don't really think at this point that it is.
	I think it's gone beyond that.
	I think it's a great big pimple getting ready to burst.
	But you know what?
	Well, that's not exactly the analogy I would have used, but same effect.
	I use a little red light in the cockpit, you know, past the point of no return, but it all means the same thing.
	Well, but you know, once a pimple bursts, it heals.
	Well, that's true.
	That's true.
	And I just wanted to lend you a little bit of moral support from the viewpoint of one who has reason to believe that we should all be willing to see this through, because when we get to the other side, I think there's going to be something wonderful.
	Well, what is going to happen is supposed to happen.
	Alright, well listen, thank you very much.
	This lady is exactly right, and I don't know about the lilt.
	I accept... I accept what's happening.
	And I think that clearly, as a society, as a world, we are headed for a change.
	And we are in the midst of that process right now.
	That which I call the quickening.
	We're in the middle of it.
	And that is what I documented in the book.
	And people keep asking me about things as though I am a prophet, you know.
	Well, what's it going to be?
	When's it going to be?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how it is going to manifest itself.
	The remote viewers say there is a point past which they cannot see.
	The Native Americans suggest that Mother Earth will Swat us as a horse would a fly from its backside The prophets say various things the religious leaders Chime in and sound very much like that as well.
	So from whatever discipline you hear it those who do project and see Know that it is coming I'm not of any of those particular disciplines.
	So I don't know that what I do know is Is that the process is underway.
	What I did document and prove in my book is that the process is underway.
	It's happening now.
	It's not in our future.
	It's already occurring.
	And you know it.
	And so do I. I just took the time and trouble to put it all together.
	And again, I say, you know, it's one of those books That you just don't set out to write because you want to write a book.
	Actually, after I wrote my first book, I said, that's it, I'm never going to write another book.
	And this one came out of me like a whirlwind.
	It wasn't like I could stop it.
	Do you all know what I mean?
	I couldn't stop it, it just came out, and that's why it's doing so well.
	Because it has the resonance of truth about it that's undeniable.
	And what I would say to you is that it is a process that I personally believe is now irreversible.
	And it doesn't mean the end of the world.
	It just means that there is a change coming, and pretty soon.
	How's that for a timeline, huh?
	You know, they always press the prophets, give me a date, give me a date, I want to know when it's gonna... Pretty soon.
	Answer is pretty soon.
	What it's going to be, I have no idea at all.
	The deal with the book is that the second printing is now selling out.
	I'm very happy about that and happy and sad at the same time.
	I mean, we just got it.
	So what I'm doing until I can't do it anymore is, because everybody wants it, I'm autographing the book.
	Now the day is going to come when I'm not going to do that anymore.
	And all I can tell you is, if you order now, I mean it's like a day-to-day thing, If you order now, you will get an autographed first edition copy, and they have them now for immediate shipment.
	It's called the Quickening.
	And I would be very interested, by the way, in talking to some of you who have already read it, and now, of course, that is many thousands of people, and knowing if you find any Point you would like to argue or that you can find as definitively incorrect.
	I don't think so.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, this is Odyssey.
	Odyssey?
	I'm in the Grassy Knoll chat room.
	Ah, yes.
	They told me that if I get on to say hi to all of them.
	Oh, really?
	Just to confirm that I'm on.
	Um, okay.
	Do they want me to come in and visit?
	Yeah, they do.
	I could do that.
	Okay.
	Also, I wanted to ask if you knew anything about Oliver.
	Oliver who?
	Oliver, you know, the half monkey, um, you know, the guy that looks like a, the monkey that looks like a man, sort of.
	The monkey that looks like a man?
	Yeah, you know that, you didn't hear about that?
	No.
	Oh, well, I have an article in my email.
	I'll send that to you.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Would you do that?
	Yes, I will.
	All right, then I'll come into the grousing old chat room for a bit, okay?
	Okay, I'm sorry, I'm kind of nervous, this is the first time I've ever called.
	Oh, well, relax, it's no big deal.
	Okay.
	Alright?
	Bye.
	Thanks for the call, and I'll meet you over there in the Grassy Knoll chat room.
	That's on America Online.
	It's been a few days, so I'll go in there.
	The way you get there is go into America Online, and go to Keyword, you know, up at the top there, where they have Go To Keyword.
	Click on that and just type in my name, Art Bell, and it will take you to an area called the Periscope area, and within that is the Grassy Knoll chat room.
	I think that's a great name for a chat room, the Grassy Knoll.
	And so I'll be in there and reading caustic comments, no doubt.
	It is an interesting place.
	Chat rooms are interesting places.
	They're a little slice of anarchy, and inevitably you get two or three people in there, you know, who are hateful and want to cause trouble, and it turns into sort of anarchy, but that's okay.
	I mean, that's part of the intent of a chat room.
	I mean, it is... Now, they don't let it get too far out of hand.
	Of course, they try not to, but pretty much anything goes.
	We used to have a product that would take care of that, but we're presently not advertising it.
	So if a problem occurs, sir, get in touch with me, and I'll try and get the number for you.
	Used to the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yes.
	Hi.
	Dan here in Virginia.
	Hi.
	That was a great program last night, especially on the Amalgams.
	Oh, don't get me started.
	I've got root canals and amalgam.
	Do you know how much money it cost me to get myself in this condition?
	Oh, probably $10,000.
	No, more like $5,000.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, the unfortunate thing is 98% of the population I think has amalgam fillings.
	Yep.
	And you look at the chronic fatigue and all the health problems, and there's been studies Correlating heavy metal toxicity with viral and bacterial problems.
	Okay.
	So there's a lot of documentation on this stuff.
	The World Health Organization has done a study.
	And you know in Europe it's against the law until you put amalgam fillings in some countries.
	Well, maybe then if I were to bite somebody I could be charged with attempted murder.
	My teeth were a registered weapon.
	But I'll be glad to follow on that if you'd like.
	But the thing that really I tuned into is the weather down in Texas.
	Oh, yes.
	That's so unusual.
	Not anymore.
	Well, exactly.
	But you get a gut feeling about something that you know it's not natural.
	Yes.
	Do you see where I'm going with this?
	The same place I went in my book, sir.
	There's no question about it.
	It is not natural.
	Now, we can get into, and I'm happy to with listeners, what they think this is, this change in the weather, change in the way people are behaving, change in our ecology, change in the environment, change in our economic situation, and the political irrelevance going on in Washington.
	Yeah.
	We could go on and on and on.
	It's all leading towards something.
	What do you think it is?
	Well, I think there's a lot of scenarios that you could look at.
	But if I wanted to take over a country, I would do it with the weather.
	Because you don't have any fallout from atom bombs and tornadoes.
	And you see how destructive they can be.
	And yet the area is left clean afterwards.
	You know, except for the debris.
	But there's no radiation hanging around.
	So if you really want to bring a country down to its knees, what do you do?
	You destroy it economically and, you know, cause a lot of unnatural catastrophes.
	It's possible.
	You know, it's possible.
	In other words, you're suggesting the weather is being manipulated.
	I am very interested in speaking with anybody who thinks that they have proof that that is being done.
	There are some who believe the HAARP project in Alaska Has that capability?
	I'm not sure.
	There are some who believe people are utilizing Tesla technology and doing it.
	I'm not sure about that.
	What I am pretty sure about is that it is changing.
	Now, whether it's being manipulated or it is a reaction to man's actions, or a reaction, I guess I ought to say, I don't know.
	Pick between those two.
	What do you think?
	West of the Rockies or on the air?
	Hi.
	Well, hi.
	This is Mark.
	Mark, I can barely hear you, Mark, so you're going to have to talk into that phone and scream at us.
	Hi, this is Mark from Vancouver, B.C.
	Yes, Mark.
	I'm listening on C-Fun.
	Oh, C-Fun.
	Yes, sir.
	And before I talk about the main thing, I just want to Erase a myth that Americans have about Canadians.
	May I ask you a question?
	What time does CFUN begin the program now?
	They carry it from 11 to 4.
	Wow!
	And they also carry Dreamland.
	Except on Friday, they don't join until 1 o'clock.
	And so we missed like half of Victor last week.
	And I phoned and I want to erase a myth and that is that the average Canadian does not like Canadian football.
	well i still don't know that's pretty good carriage uh...
	they've been really serious you know yes and i also call me tell them that i
	appreciate that they did carry the show that's a good thing to do
	uh...
	yeah i want uh... erase a myth and that is that the average canadian does not like uh... canadian football
	most most football fans i know are into the nfl
	and we've always been into the nfl We think of the CFL as a farm team.
	Really?
	We're really not into it.
	But you guys, you've got hockey.
	We've got hockey, yeah.
	I agree.
	NFL is THE sport.
	That's right.
	Football is THE sport.
	I don't even that much like college football, but the NFL, nothing compares to that.
	Absolutely.
	I like U.S.
	College.
	One thing, the main thing I wanted to talk to you tonight, and I'll have to walk you through it here.
	Have you ever been near a street lamp and it goes out?
	Yes.
	That happens to me all the time.
	I know, we talked about it.
	I mean, there are reasons this occurs.
	Is there?
	Yes, there are.
	There are?
	That's what I want to call because you're your listeners.
	Okay, I can tell you right now.
	I mean, listen to me now.
	They go out a lot of times because they're in a power saving mode.
	That's what some of my listeners say.
	Others say that lights of photoelectric sensors will sense an oncoming car or something and you'll be walking toward it and go out because of that or because of a reflection or because you're a very Magnetic person.
	It's amazing.
	There will be a hundred lights on the street, but just when I'm going right by, boom, it goes out right when I'm beside it.
	Now, my wife and I, together, we're a powerhouse.
	Lights are just going out all the time.
	And I said to her the other day, she said, are you going to call her a bell?
	And I said, before I do, I want you to try and think of an event.
	That may be happened before this this went out or star happened to us and we both thought that it was the night that we saw this this meteor and the funny thing about it is we're looking at the sky and she went to look away and I said don't take your eyes off the sky because you may see a fallen star and at the exact second when I said fallen star there was one was coming down and she she says to me we're both quiet and I said this is great my powers are getting stronger I do magic, but very amateur magic, and so she says to me, was that a trick?
	Alright, I have just set a politically incorrect cigarette up on my table.
	It is standing vertically upon its claimed filter.
	Let me see you knock it over.
	Did it work?
	Nah, it's still standing there.
	Keep working, keep working!
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	♪ Took my baby's life ♪ ♪ Last Saturday evening came to the old oak tree ♪
	♪ It stands beside the river where you ♪ ♪ Walked away ♪
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	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	You know what you're listening to right now, don't you?
	This is Cusco.
	And do you know what?
	They're coming out with the third A Point of the Triangle.
	They're coming out with a new album called Return to Native America.
	And, uh, I've heard it.
	It's killing me.
	It's absolutely killing me.
	Uh, you'll hear it, uh, ooooh, in July, or maybe a little before if I can talk him into it, but...
	It is unbelievably good.
	thunder You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from May 29th, 1997.
	twenty ninth nineteen ninety seven uh...
	i'm going to be on the air this morning at seven o'clock my time
	with mike murphy who are is going to talk radio soulmate mind over in kansas
	city on kcmr 50,000 watts of sincere attitude.
	So we'll do that.
	9 o'clock Kansas City time.
	Hey Art, here is a thought I would like your comment on as well as the audience's comments.
	There is no question that the government is losing credibility each day.
	More and more people say flat out that they don't believe anything they hear from the government.
	The question is, what are they going to do about it?
	Do you think the powers that be, that's in quotes, will sit back and allow the people to label them as irrelevant liars?
	Or will we be, in quotes, made to believe what they say?
	I remember an episode of Star Trek where Captain Picard is captured and held in a dark room and shown three lights.
	An ominous Big Brother voice continuously asks him how many lights there are and tortures him until he answers two instead of three.
	In essence, they insist that he believe their lie.
	How long will we be allowed to say, I don't believe you, to the government?
	Let me repeat that last line.
	How long will we be allowed to say, I don't believe you, to the government?
	Rob, listening to KFYI.
	Oh, that's a good question.
	And I don't have the answer.
	It is true, certainly, that Americans, and I did a program on this that's going to air on WTBS one night, we did that subject here, because it is such an important one.
	So many people, even me, becoming Um, cynical and doubting instead of as we used to accepting what our government told us.
	And you know, the consequences of that are very serious.
	And so would they ever begin to literally insist that we believe what they say?
	Not in the America we know today.
	The next question is, how long will the America we know today remain even remotely intact?
	And the answer to that one is not in my immediate grasp.
	So, Rob, a really super question.
	Maybe some of the audience can respond.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, Art.
	How you doing, buddy?
	I'm doing all right.
	My name's Kenny, and I'm calling just south of Cincinnati and coming to Kentucky.
	Yes, sir.
	And I'd like to know, you talk about this quickening, and you say that it's earth changes and weather changes and people changes.
	Yes.
	Well, don't people run the government?
	That's an open question.
	They go and they vote and they send people to Washington.
	No, I mean the people that in fact are running the government are people.
	Now, why are they immune to the quickening?
	They're not, they're part of it.
	Okay.
	You were talking about Oklahoma City earlier?
	And you said that you couldn't believe that our government would be doing something like that?
	Well, what he was implying was that the government had planted the explosives inside to blow up its own building.
	No, I don't believe that.
	Cynical as I may be, I do not believe that.
	Well, I've seen videos and stuff on public television here where they've shown holes drilled in the foundation and everything for, like, demolition charges.
	I've seen it on film.
	It's strange.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Maybe some of the listeners can help out here.
	I don't trust the government one bit.
	Well, I don't trust them either, and nobody should, but short of compelling evidence, and I'm sorry, but I have not seen compelling evidence.
	Well, they have all the power.
	They ain't gonna leave no evidence around.
	Well, okay, so then you are reduced to speculation, right?
	You speculate all you want.
	All right, buddy, thanks.
	Right, but the evidence that I've seen so far I'll point to exactly what happened.
	A rider truck full of a lot of very high explosive soup went off and blew up most of that building.
	Now, I admit that the crater does not reasonably demonstrate the damage done to the building, but look.
	These were shaped explosives.
	There were buildings on the other side.
	There was a reflection that caused a second seismic blip immediately after the first.
	And a lot of the explosion was reflected and caused damage that would not necessarily reflect the exact size of the physical hole produced by the explosion.
	So short of, you know, very compelling evidence that it occurred otherwise, I think I tend to believe that what we're hearing out of the Denver trial is what happened.
	That's just one person's opinion.
	I know there's a million people and a million theories.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yeah.
	This is Tommy from North Carolina.
	Ah, yes sir.
	I got a question for you.
	All right.
	This guy told me that he's got a CB radio that he can broadcast so strong he could actually interfere with aircraft.
	I'm talking about major aircraft.
	Is that possible?
	No.
	No.
	No, it's not.
	No, it's not.
	CB radio operates on 27 megahertz.
	And the aircraft band is all up in the 120 megahertz, 130 megahertz range.
	And so the answer is more or less no.
	OK.
	That's what I thought.
	You solved what I thought it was.
	He's bragging.
	He's bragging about something that don't exist, huh?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	Take care, sir.
	Now, it is possible, of course, that some idiot with a gigantic linear amplifier emitting spurious radiation in harmonics could, I suppose, interfere with aircraft, but the odds of that are pretty slim.
	And at any rate, it would be nothing to brag about and something to fix before the authorities get to you, but that would be a very outside possibility.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello art. I will be very quick. Okay. I just wanted to tell you that you mentioned
	Can of tuna would be good for the dog or cat and it's not a lot of mercury in it actually
	Well, then then I'm consistent because I love tuna and I eat tuna
	I eat porch Adam tuna, which is the best tuna I've ever had my whole life. Really? Oh, it's delicious
	I mean, so look we're all dying, right? That's right Bye.
	I'll see you next time.
	I guess that's the attitude I'm going to adjust to.
	We're dying, and if I like tuna, I'm going to eat tuna.
	Good for you.
	Bye.
	Same for my cat.
	See you later.
	I think at the moment, actually not quite at the moment you're born, but shortly thereafter, More cells begin to be destroyed than are regenerated, and that is the process of dying.
	So, we're all in that process.
	Now, there's no reason to hurry it along, and you can do what you can to prevent that process, but otherwise, you know, it's as assured as taxes.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Good morning, Ed.
	This is Ed in San Diego.
	Hello, Ed.
	Good to hear from you.
	I got your book.
	You've got it!
	I read it.
	It was amazing.
	I must say that it didn't end on a happy note, but I thought it ended on a very serious note, and I think a lot of people should read it.
	It's a serious subject, sir.
	Absolutely.
	It's well written, well documented.
	Thank you.
	The thing I really appreciated about it, besides the bibliography and the documentation, is some of the conclusions that you made We're very, very accurate, especially the ones dealing with socially, how we've basically become narcissistic.
	Oh, yes.
	And have become so self-centered.
	Oh, yes.
	And that the loss of morals and the loss of just being kind and decent to one another, that is just so prevalent.
	And it's so sad to see that going away.
	And you know what?
	It began in the cities.
	It began in the areas where people are packed together.
	But it is now true in little towns, even like The Little Town I live in, and there used to be an escape from it.
	There is no longer, and it's spreading and quickening.
	Absolutely.
	I just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done book.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Okay.
	Take care.
	It is a good book.
	I'm very, very proud of it.
	I'm very proud of it.
	But, you know, and I'll say this again, and I really mean it, this is not a book that I set out to write to write a book.
	A lot of people, they just sit down to write a book.
	I'm going to be an author, you know, so I'm going to write a book.
	Let's see, what shall I write about?
	It really wasn't like that at all.
	It was compelling for me to do.
	In a lot of ways, I didn't have a choice.
	I wonder if you understand that I didn't have a choice.
	It had to be said.
	And then I realized that it had to be said in a way that brought credibility to what I'm claiming, because what I'm claiming is somewhat incredible.
	I am claiming that we are in the middle of a process that is going to culminate in a basic change in human history.
	And that is an incredible claim, and requires a credible documentation, and it is in there.
	And so the reaction to this book, I've yet to hear the angry reaction, and maybe that's because it's hard to refute facts.
	So I'll just leave it at that.
	Again, if you want an autographed copy of my book before I stop signing autographed copies, and that day is coming, I don't know when, you know, like when my hand wears out, you can be assured you'll get one if you order soon.
	The number is... I may continue doing it for... it just depends.
	You know, some days when you're signing, it's really tedious and hard, and other days It's very easy.
	It's like everything else, you know.
	It's sort of in cycles.
	So I can't exactly tell you when I'm going to stop signing.
	But that day will come.
	Oh, wildcard line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning, Art.
	Hi.
	Congratulations on your fourth plate finish.
	Yeah, OK, well, he gave it away.
	There's a listing on the website.
	Uh, now, uh, it came from, uh, compiled by Talkers Magazine of the top ten talk show hosts in America.
	And, uh, it is true.
	I appear to be number four.
	I'm calling from, uh, Santa Fe County.
	K-O-B, um, out of Albuquerque.
	Do you have the list there?
	Yeah, uh, not right in front of me.
	I can't believe Rush was number one.
	Oh, I, of course, of course he's number one.
	Really?
	Sure.
	Wow.
	Surprised me.
	Um, really?
	He's been in that position now for years.
	And another thing, you know, that FBI letter was really a little spooky.
	I can't believe it.
	Oh, I know.
	They threatened you, kind of like.
	Kind of like?
	Yeah, more than that.
	Kind of like?
	No, they threatened us.
	I mean, clearly, that was a threat.
	Uh, if you don't want any more contact with us, you will do the following.
	Um, you know, I guess they, you know, as it says there, uh, where Keith, uh, wrote, uh, the, uh, the entry point of the letter, so you can read the letter, uh, the FBI can't take a joke.
	Well, um, they were not humored.
	No.
	Couple quick things.
	You know, it, on April Fool's, I went up to my own website, And I almost had a heart attack.
	I'm serious.
	I almost had a heart attack.
	I had no idea Keith was going to do that.
	Yes, I saw it, too, when that happened.
	I know.
	That surprised me.
	I thought something was amiss.
	I went up there, and I finally did get it, of course.
	But when I first looked at it, I went, oh, my God.
	You're in trouble now.
	I'm in big trouble.
	Hey, can I thank that radio station up there in Grand Junction?
	See, KOB goes off the air at four.
	Yes.
	And up there in Grand Junction, I don't know, it's letters of ZZ at the end or something.
	CanZZ, I think.
	Yeah, and I get to listen to them for the last hour, and I appreciate that from them.
	Well, you know, that's a good thing to do, is whatever radio station you happen to be listening to, I always forget to do this, give them a call and thank them for carrying the program, because we are a bit different.
	Can I also thank the Gracie Noel, which I've come to know and love for its interesting outlook on life.
	which i've come to know and love yes you may
	for it uh...
	it's interesting uh...
	uh... outlook on life i need to have a yes you're right thank you sir i need to
	have uh...
	i need to have somebody uh... in uh... a l l management contact me
	by fax or uh... preferably by fax or email I guess it'd be easy for somebody in AOL management, America Online Management, to contact me by email.
	Guess what my email address is?
	Artbell at AOL.com.
	So if somebody in the management area of AOL would please contact me by email, the easiest way for y'all, I would appreciate that.
	Artbell at AOL.com.
	Alright, so he said it, so I'll say it now.
	There's a list of Up on the website right now that you can see, and I will tell you, compiled by Talkers Magazine once a year, they compile actually a list of the top 100 talk shows in this year, I think as well as last.
	They compile a list of the top 10, well I'm reading from it now, the top 10 radio talk hosts in America.
	Show weekly cue estimates in millions of listeners.
	Rush Limbaugh, number one, Rush has been there for years with an estimated 21 million listeners.
	Number 2, Dr. Laura Schlesinger with an estimated 14 million.
	Number 3, Howard Stern with an estimated 12 million.
	Number 4, me, Art Bell, estimated 10 million.
	Number 5, Dr. Joey Brown, estimated 9 million.
	Number 6 is Don Imus with an estimated 8 million.
	Number 7 is Bruce Williams with an estimated 7 million.
	Number 8 is Jim Bohannon, with an estimated $6 million.
	Number 9 is G. Gordon Liddy, with an estimated $5 million.
	And number 10 is a tie between Michael Reagan, with an estimated $4 million, and Ken and Daria Dolan, with an estimated $4 million.
	And so, if you wish to see that list, it is on the website right now, along with the Now, a famous letter from the FBI.
	It says, FBI can't take an April Fool's joke.
	They were not humored.
	So, of course, we did as instructed.
	And then Keith posted the letter from the FBI.
	So they'll probably send him another letter now.
	You will immediately remove that letter and he'll probably post that.
	East of the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	You're Art Bellion Hellion up here in Minneapolis.
	How you doing?
	I'm doing great.
	I'm so happy that you beat Imus.
	I can't wait.
	I'm amazed.
	I can't believe what's happening to this program.
	I can't wait until that book gets on the New York Times Best Seller list and you're beating his picture book that he's got out.
	Have you seen that?
	His picture book?
	Imus has a picture book?
	Yeah.
	No, I haven't seen it.
	He has a picture book.
	He does.
	He has a picture.
	He went into the desert and took a bunch of pictures of some rocks and stuff.
	Really?
	And he's selling it for 25 bucks or something.
	I don't know.
	The Don Imus rock book?
	I'm telling you, it's him and his brother Fred.
	Are you serious?
	I'm serious as a heart attack.
	Those two guys, they go out in the desert and they take pictures of rocks.
	Well, you know, somebody famous once said that if you take two boards and nail them together in any certain way and take them out to a swap meet, Eventually somebody will come along and buy them as an object, oh Art.
	Hey will somebody fax that list to Don Imus so we can go... Hey listen, can you, can you, can you hold on?
	Yes sir, we'll be back.
	This is Premier Networks.
	That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
	on this Somewhere in Time.
	Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Somewhere in Time.
	Today, we're going to be talking about the first ever video game, and that is the first
	video game.
	Now, I'm going to be talking about the first ever video game, and that is the first ever
	Midnight at the Oasis Send your camel to bed Shadows paintin' our faces Traces of romance in our hair Heaven's holdin' a half moon Shinin' just for us Let's slip off to a sand dune, really soon, kick up a little dirt.
	Come on, cactus is our friend, he'll wander down the way.
	Hold on till the evening ends, till the evening ends.
	You don't have to answer.
	There's no need to speak.
	Now, we take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
	Good morning everybody, I'm Art Bell.
	I seem to always be in trouble.
	You know that?
	That's what I've concluded in my older age.
	That all my life, and since I was small, I've almost consistently and always been in trouble.
	Of one sort or another.
	And that still hasn't changed.
	I suppose it never will, huh?
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM, from May 29th, 1997.
	And by the way, with respect again to the ratings of the talk show hosts,
	I am very proud to be in the top ten now, and number four at that.
	And that's it.
	And I think that the reason, and by the way, I'm not surprised that Rush remains number one.
	Not surprised at all.
	And I'm not surprised that Howard is also way up there.
	Um, you know why?
	Because I think of myself, uh, I think of Rush as an original, okay?
	Rush, whatever you think of him, love him, hate him, whatever, he's an original item.
	And there are a lot of people out there who are, you know, trying to, uh, follow in his rather substantial footsteps.
	And they're copycats.
	Uh, and whatever you think of Stern, Uh, he's an original.
	Definitely an original.
	In fact, actually his movie is quite good.
	I saw his movie and I've got to say it was good.
	He's an original and he's got it right.
	The day came when he said, hell with this, you know, I'm going to do what I want to do.
	Um, and to hell with everybody.
	And I did the same thing.
	A couple of, well actually two, three years ago I did it.
	I think that that's what accounts for success.
	I mean, you can follow in somebody else's footsteps, and there are those who are beginning to try and do what I do on the air, and that's fine.
	But I don't think it ever really gets you where you want to go.
	So my advice, for all it's worth, and it is not followed, is to be yourself, to be original.
	And then you'll get up and go.
	But if you just try and emulate somebody else, you know, you're just going to be a weak second or third or fourth or fifth generation.
	And you're never really going to achieve the top of the heap, which is where you want to be.
	East of the Rockies, you're back on the air again, huh?
	Yes, sir.
	I just wanted to reiterate that maybe somebody could fax Imus that list or something or power that list.
	And I think that maybe now that you're getting a little more good ink from the press so to speak with this list here
	and maybe people will take more notice of you and give you more respect and
	maybe that bill read your book and and maybe some of the day people
	will wake up of well um...
	maybe so but look i don't care uh... as the look even on this
	uh... is an original uh...
	and is so that's why he's on the list I mean, look, being on the top ten list of anything in any career field is cool.
	So I don't, you know... Hey, you better be proud of it, because I sure am proud of you.
	Well, thank you.
	If I could switch the subject on you there for a second.
	Fire away.
	Okay, my roommate is from Colombia, from Medellin, Colombia.
	Oh, really?
	And he was in the city there once, and there was an accident where some man cut his hand very, very badly.
	And they couldn't stop the bleeding for nothing.
	And you know the ambulances aren't like they are here.
	It takes a long time for them to arrive and what not.
	Right.
	And so this guy was bleeding to death out of his hand.
	And I mean the blood was just everywhere.
	This is my roommate which told me this.
	Right.
	So anyway this man came up and said move away, move away and he prayed over him and what not and the guy was and the bleeding stopped and the guy lived.
	And my friend, my roommate, said, wow, you are really awesome.
	You know, can you teach me some of this or something?
	And the guy says, I can't teach.
	It's hereditary.
	But he says, I can do this.
	He says, I know you're going to America, to my roommate.
	And he put a spell on my roommate and said, you will get through the border, no problem.
	You know, because he had no papers and stuff like that.
	Made it right through.
	And he's got a great job.
	And, you know, it's all because this guy put a spell on him.
	Wow.
	Can you believe it?
	He's on the line right now if you'd like to talk to him.
	He is?
	He's on the line right now if you'd like to talk to him.
	Speak!
	Yeah, no, I just listen to what he's talking about.
	But, uh, yeah, that's really happened, you know.
	The guy, well, I don't know, I just believe the guy because of what I see that he did with the other guy that was bleeding.
	So he told me, well, you go to the United States, you go over there and you're going to get a job.
	You're going to get all your documents and all that stuff straight.
	Right.
	So I came over and that's what I did.
	I started working.
	I started to learn how to speak English and all that stuff.
	And I got a great job.
	I got all my documents.
	You know, I'm legal in the United States and all that stuff.
	And all that I've been doing, I've been doing working.
	Well, I would say congratulations to you.
	And I believe it.
	I believe in a lot of things that you cannot see and cannot touch.
	And I believe in the possibility of their being true.
	And that includes the kind of thing you just heard.
	And I guess there's no more to say.
	I mean, these things happen.
	The world is more than we know.
	It is more than we can touch and feel and grab and grasp.
	I've got something here that fits into the, I'm sorry to say, into the quickening This is Dateline, Okayama, in Japan.
	Entitled, Monkeys in Labs May Have Deadly Virus.
	About 40% of Japanese monkeys bred for experiments at universities nationwide carry a virus, listen here, potentially as deadly for humans as the Ebola virus.
	The finding was revealed by Nagasaki University assistant professor Hiroshi Sato at a meeting in Okayama last week.
	The meeting was organized by the operators of animal experiment facilities at national universities.
	In response to the revelation, the council secretary, a secretariat that is, intends to call for caution in the use of these monkeys.
	According to Sato, he detected the B, as in boy, virus in some 40% of more than 1,000 monkey blood samples that he had collected from 53 facilities in national universities.
	Experts regard the B virus, whatever in the hell that is, B as in boy, as being as deadly as Ebola.
	Only the most advanced facilities are even allowed to handle it.
	And they're saying that as many as 40% of the monkeys used for experiments in Japan may have this virus.
	Good heavens.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Uh, yes.
	This is Ed in Oklahoma City.
	Yes, sir.
	And, uh, gee, it sounds a little bit different on the phone than you do on the radio.
	That's what people say.
	Yeah.
	Uh, listen, I I have been listening to your show for about a year and a half.
	Yes, sir.
	And I really like it, but I wanted to comment.
	I have one question for you to comment.
	The question is, what was the name of the person on your show last night?
	Last night?
	Your interview.
	Let's see.
	Wayne Green.
	Wayne Green.
	Does that help you?
	Yes, it does, sir.
	I think he's probably a pretty good person.
	Oh, there's no doubt about it.
	Wayne Green is an original, and that brings me back to where I was a little while ago.
	Wayne Green has been a millionaire and then poor, and then a millionaire and poor, and he's an original person.
	And there are fewer originals in the world today.
	But we still have them, and I'm proud to be able to count myself, I think, as an original.
	And we need more originals, and fewer copycats.
	So, if I would give anybody out there, you know, getting into my business, or actually any business advice, I would say, follow your instincts, do what you think is right, be honest with yourself, And, you know, it sounds pretty corny, but follow your inner instincts, and if you are almost compulsive about it, you will achieve your goals.
	Or if you don't, you will have fought the good fight.
	But the odds of you achieving your goals are much better if you plunge into it and do what you know is right, despite what others may tell you.
	Don't copy others.
	Be yourself.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey Art, this is Joseph from L.A., man.
	Yes, man.
	Hey, how you doing?
	I'm fine, man.
	Hey, is it hot?
	Is it hot over there in Nevada?
	About the same temperature as L.A.
	I know.
	It's cool.
	It's cool.
	Hey, you talk about the quickening, man.
	What about Africa?
	Africa over there, you know, all that restructuring they're having over there, you think that's a little bit more of a quickening over there?
	No.
	Just the same pace that we're going to go through right now?
	Well, I think that they're just at a different stage, but because of the population pressure in Africa, they're quickening indeed.
	And that accounts for the civil strife you're seeing now in Africa.
	And the rest of Africa is going to look at South Africa as a model, and they are going to be industrializing.
	And the rest of Africa is going to want what we have as Asia is now beginning to acquire.
	South America is going to want and is beginning to acquire.
	And as these different continents continue to increase in population and want the same material comforts that we have, which includes industrialization, transportation, infrastructure, The environment is not going to begin to be able to handle it.
	That's all in my book.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yes, I have a question.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Okay.
	About two weeks ago, I had like this dream, and I don't know if it was a dream or not, but I dreamt that I was abducted by aliens.
	And ever since then, I've had a real bad pain in the right side of my nose.
	And my nose has started bleeding a little bit, and I've had, like, a continuous headache for two weeks.
	And I was wondering if there's, like, anything I can do about it.
	Um... Well, you can go to a doctor.
	Yeah, look, I heard that, like, um, if this one lady that was abducted by aliens, and that they put... they tried to pull the thing out of her nose, and it killed her, and I know Whitley Strieber has one in his nose, And, you know, he's afraid to get his pulled out because, you know... He believes that he has his in his ear, not nose.
	Oh, it's not in his nose?
	Right.
	And the first thing to do is to confirm that there is really something there.
	And to do that, you've got to go to a doctor.
	And a doctor will be more than happy to oblige you with an x-ray or an MRI or whatever.
	Uh-huh.
	And take a look and be sure something is really there.
	Uh-huh.
	So do that first.
	Okay.
	And what if...
	you know they want to pull it out and I don't want them to, do you think they'd try to do it?
	Yeah sure, they'll strap you down and you know with something, a medical version of a pair of pliers
	and they'll yank it out. But what if I don't want them to do that? Well if you're strapped down
	you know you will have no choice. Okay, thank you. You're welcome, have a good day.
	Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air, hello. Hey this is Bill from Texas. Hi Bill. Yeah I've
	I've been listening to your show for about two months and I am addicted.
	Thank you.
	You've got a great show, and I just want to ask you a question about the Alien interviews.
	Yes, sir.
	Are they going to show that, the video?
	Is it going to be released?
	The video, I understand, is to be released, I think, sometime next month or the month after, either June or July, I'm not sure.
	But yes, it is going to be released.
	Okay.
	I appreciate it, and I love your show.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Take care.
	First-time callers, call Area 702-727-1222.
	Okay.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hey, Art.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Did I hear you a couple of months ago or a month ago saying you thought the Aurora was being tested in San Diego?
	What I said was, I do believe the Aurora aircraft is being tested.
	And as it comes in over the Pacific Ocean toward the test area here, shockwaves are felt frequently in San Diego as big booms.
	Yeah, I live in San Diego and we get those booms constantly.
	And one night, I mean it was going on for hours, it was just like the beginning of this month, and I went outside around about 11 o'clock I don't either.
	and it was a cloudy night, but I saw this bright star there and it just zipped off.
	And I thought, I knew it couldn't be a shooting star because I could barely see any stars.
	I don't know if that has any connection.
	I don't either.
	Well, you know, when those booms come, they rattle the windows, the doors.
	And they're coming from, I don't know where they're coming from, but we have a lot of military bases out here.
	Well, I don't know what to tell you.
	I think that's what it is.
	I think it's the Aurora aircraft or something very much like it.
	Or something like it, yeah.
	You bet.
	Yeah, we got a mock-up of Spain.
	Yep, well, keep your eyes on the skies, sir.
	Oh, I don't get the honors?
	Oh, jeez, it's almost 4 o'clock.
	No, not close enough.
	Okay.
	All right, thank you very much.
	One of these nights, you'll get them.
	It's, you know, whoever's last.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, this is Wally from Santa Monica.
	Okay.
	I, uh, last year sent you, uh, you've been asking a great deal about, uh, you'd like to see some of these little things in the way of a toy or something that has this free energy.
	I sent you a package from, uh, Popular Science Magazine.
	Yes.
	Uh, last year with, uh, photocopies of, uh, all these, uh, experiments they were doing in the laboratories in the universities.
	Yeah, I've seen it.
	Oh, you have?
	But what I haven't seen is a working model.
	Oh, but they had... Diagrams, schemes, theories, I've got a lot of that.
	Oh, you do?
	Oh, yeah.
	But they had them all out on a desk there.
	You know, pictures of them working.
	Pictures, yes.
	Well... And they had the little antenna going out onto the roof.
	That's cool.
	And wire.
	Picking up the free power, right?
	That's right.
	Cool.
	And... I want to see it.
	Yeah, well, I sent you that with a picture.
	No, I don't want to see a picture.
	Oh, you want one of those?
	I think you understand.
	Listen, there is something going on afoot right now that's very interesting.
	I read the U.S.A.
	newspaper today and they have all the states listed across the U.S.A.
	and then Arizona down there where they lost a couple of A-10s down in Yuma.
	They have a Huachuca.
	Traffic jams are expected on these highways going out of there to Tucson, Yuma, and Phoenix.
	There's 235 military vehicles leaving the Army post down there for a nationwide exercise.
	Interesting.
	The exercise is scheduled to end June the 10th.
	So evidently military operations all over the nation are going to be combined in one massive thing to see just how quickly They can handle everyone in the country.
	Militarily.
	Here comes the boys with the blue helmets.
	Black helicopters.
	Blue helmets, black helicopters.
	All right, sir, thank you very much.
	I don't fear the UN.
	I hear this frequently from people.
	Oh, the UN is going to take over.
	No, it's not.
	The UN can't even manage little tiny Third and fourth world island nations.
	How would you expect they would manage a nation full of very angry, independent Americans who are armed to the teeth?
	Blue helmets.
	They'd probably have a shorter survival time than aliens who would land and be coming down the ramp.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	No, you're not.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Wow, great.
	Wow, turn your radio off.
	Okay, I will, I will.
	I'll turn my radio off.
	Good, good, good.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	Okay, um, I'm originally from the land of the Chupacabra, Puerto Rico.
	Now, see, I can tell from the way you said it that it's true.
	Let me hear you say that again.
	Puerto Rico?
	No.
	Puerto Rico.
	Well, no!
	The land of the chupacabras?
	Yes.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, you know what?
	It's true.
	It's really... This thing really exists.
	And, uh, you know, I mean, a bunch of farmers are going to be killing off their own sheep because sheep are very expensive.
	And goats are very expensive in Puerto Rico.
	Um, they're really upset about it, too.
	But I wanted to say that I heard for the first time you were talking about something landed in Puerto Rico?
	Yes.
	Well, I heard about it first from you.
	And then I talked to my brother and he said it was in Lajas.
	Lajas, Puerto Rico.
	That's what I've heard.
	And it's confirmed.
	And he said it was even on TV they had a videotape of some light.
	And then the military came in and nobody knew anything else about it.
	Why do you think Puerto Rico is such a special place for all of these things going on?
	Well, because of the Arecibo.
	Telescope that is trying to contact aliens for so long.
	In other words, maybe it has.
	Sure.
	And then, but the thing with the... Where are you located?
	I'm in Humboldt County.
	Humboldt County.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Well, listen... I just wanted to tell you... Listen to me.
	Listen to me.
	The show's over.
	There's no more time.
	You get the honors.
	Tell everybody good night.
	Oh, good night.
	Can I talk to you after?
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	That's it, folks.
	Good night.

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