Joyce Murphy and Art Bell investigate 46 Jasper, Arkansas schoolchildren collapsing with radiation-like symptoms—45 after running from the playground, seven in ICU—while officials deny answers despite CDC involvement. Callers link it to local chemical exposure or suppressed UFO activity, citing Mexico’s ley line theories and historical U.S. government experiments near Pine Bluff Arsenal. Meanwhile, Antarctica’s 4,600-square-mile Larson Ice Shelf faces predicted collapse, raising concerns about 200-foot sea-level spikes, ancient viruses, and potential polar shifts, with callers questioning corporate media silence on such anomalies. The episode blends medical mysteries, geophysical warnings, and UFO lore, suggesting deeper cover-ups than official narratives admit. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, as the case may be, across all these many, many time zones from the Hawaiian and Haitian Island chains, all the way eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south, well into South America, as I just verified, north all the way to the pole, worldwide on the internet.
This is Coast Coast AM.
Good morning.
I'm Mark Bell.
Great to be here.
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And this is the program that does what others don't do.
And that's almost anything else but O.J. Simpson tonight.
I don't want to talk about O.J. Simpson, and so I'll just sort of lay that out for you up front.
$33.5 billion.
He'll never end up paying it.
Simpson has said this is far from over, and that sounds like a threat to the American public.
It's over as far as I'm concerned.
I've got something else that I'm interested in.
As you know, I'm just now back from vacation.
It was a good one.
I was in Mazatlan in Mexico, and there was going on there, as there is in New Orleans, their version of Carnival.
And boy, I'll tell you what, those people throw some kind of party during Carnival in Mexico and throughout South America, as New Orleans does with Mardi Gras, South America does with what they call Carnival, and we had a blast.
A lot of fun.
So it's good to be back.
Here I am.
My mom is on the way to the airport right now, flying back to Long Island.
And that was a very enjoyable visit.
And so here we are, back on the air again, back in the saddle again.
All right.
Here's what's coming up first.
You know, we're going to have some open lines tonight.
But there are a couple of things.
I received the following facts.
I'll read it to you, and that's how this began, because you can imagine why I would be curious about this.
It comes from somebody who signs himself a fellow seeker of truth only.
In other words, anonymous.
Dear Art Bell, I just heard a story that you and we, your listeners, might possibly be interested in.
Several days ago in Jasper, Arkansas, elementary school children began dropping like flies near their gym with symptoms like radiation poisoning.
Coaches and paramedics were also affected and those who later tended to the children away from the gym were also affected immediately.
In total, 46 people have been seriously affected.
Some early news of this was reported in the Harrison, Arkansas paper.
But now there's suppression of news getting out of the area.
The area is sealed off, and the Atlanta CDC is there.
This information came, ostensibly, from an MD in Jasper in a call to Joyce Murphy of Beyond Boundaries.
The MD was fearful, said he thought his phone was bugged, says most there are fearful of repercussions if they try to get the word of any of this to the outside.
Are to get as close to the source as possible, I suggest you call Joyce Murphy at Beyond Boundaries down in Texas.
And so I did exactly that.
She is 70 miles from Dallas, Texas.
And so coming up in a moment, we will talk to Joyce.
And by the way, Beyond Boundaries is a quarterly, I guess it's quarterly.
Yeah, quarterly.
Well, January, February, maybe more than that.
Beyond Boundaries is a newsletter, a pretty big newsletter, as a matter of fact, and it covers a lot more than what we're going to talk about this evening.
Maybe we will touch on some of what else they do.
They're all involved in UFOs and all the rest of it.
But I really, really want to find what in the world is going on in Arkansas.
Now, bear in mind, the facts that I've got here is anonymous.
This medical doctor claims to be fearful.
I have no way of knowing about the validity of this.
We will find out more in a moment.
All right, now we're going to Texas, down not far from Dallas, Texas.
And we're going to speak to Joyce Murphy, who is involved with the Beyond Boundaries newsletter.
What is Beyond Boundaries as a matter of interest?
What kind of stories do you cover?
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Okay, we actually just cover current UFO phenomena all over the world, and we don't do very much in the United States, but we travel to places that are having current UFO flats and phenomenon, and we go right directly to the grassroots level, the people who are actually experiencing this phenomenon, the contactees, the experiencers, and we take small groups of people with us who are interested.
Well, as of today, I don't think anybody still, you know, has the answer, but last week, probably about the end of the week, this guy called me, and I'm not sure that he was an MD in Jasper, but somewhere in that area, because I hope there's more than one MD since he wants to be anonymous in Jasper.
But anyway, he called, and he said that, asked me if I knew what was happening in that area.
He knew that we were involved in UFO research, and somehow he thought this might involve a UFO.
And, of course, I didn't know anything, but he said that sometime about a week before he called, a number of elementary school children just collapsed on the gym floor, and he said it was inside the school.
Just, yes, or became out of control or they couldn't stand any longer.
I'm not sure they lost consciousness, but I think the symptoms involved breathing difficulties, maybe.
Breathing.
Yeah, and maybe some other things later, like they broke out in a horrible red rash and they had dry, scaly skin and all kinds of little things like that.
It seems to be something that might have been, you know, life in the air at the time and got them, but later people that treated the children came down with the symptoms immediately.
The hospital laundry that went out to a contractor two days later, the people in the laundry became sick.
So it had to be on their skin and on their clothes and also maybe in the air when it got them.
They have done these biospheres or they planned them.
It's like back in the Ozarks, and there's a whole strip of ecologically dedicated land that's all around that you can, you know, all kinds of things could happen back in there and nobody would know anything about it.
It's a lot of wilderness.
And so I don't know what that has to do with it.
There's a lot of military traffic in the air, especially over this land.
The people who then even came in contact with their clothing got sick.
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Who came in contact with the children, who treated the children, they got sick.
And they had so many they had to, you know, take them to different places.
I don't know that area, but I imagine one hospital would be about right for the size town I think it is.
And so when they got all of the emergency cases they could handle, well, then they started going to the emergency medical centers and places like that, you know, nearby ones.
Yeah, so there must, it implied that someone had seen a UFO because it says that the causes, possible causes ranged from a UFO to a mysterious illness.
Yeah, but how, sir, would that affect the workers, the emergency people who come, and then the people who even come in contact with the clothing of the children?
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I never heard anything about that.
All I heard was all these kids up there in the school coming down sick, and I got to go home.
And I didn't hear anything else about emergency personnel coming down sick or anything else or anybody checking into the hospital.
Let's state health department went up there and they were doing some checking on the playground and the schools and all that stuff to see if they could come up with anything.
And that's a pretty remote, desolate area from any military facilities.
It's national park area, national river.
There's canoeists and hikers and people up there all the time.
And nobody else has ever complained of any sickness besides those school kids.
I just think that one kid went home and everybody else wanted to also.
Something strange is going on in Jasper, Arkansas.
Spring fever?
Well, suggested by one caller, but I don't think so.
Now, I've got an Associated Press story here, and I will give you the essence of it.
And we've got a caller from Jasper, Arkansas on the line coming up.
And by the way, folks, Joyce Murphy of Beyond Boundaries newsletter has a website up.
And yes, of course, Quick Draw Keith has already got it up there.
So if you want to go up to my website and go see what Beyond Boundaries is all about, and it's about UFOs, fascinating sites, it's there for the Lincoln right now.
All you've got to do is go up there and you'll see it right at the top of my website.
Most people, the general idea is that it was some sort of chemical agent and that a lot of people feel that they know what happened or that they have some real good idea and they're not telling.
I mean, there could be some sort of group psychological thing, but now that they have found an unknown compound in their blood and urine samples, obviously it was real.
Something really occurred there.
And I hate to even suggest this, Joyce.
I don't know if you're familiar, whether you listen to the show or not, but there occasionally are.
There's a U.S. Title Code 50 that allows the U.S. government something like 30 days notification to experiment chemically or biologically on American citizens.
And I'm not saying that's what this was, because I have no way of knowing.
It's just a wild guess.
And then there's, of course, the question of the UFO as well.
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Yeah.
There's one more suggestion, too, that I've had since I've sort of been discussing this.
Back in the 50s or 40s or somewhere way back here, and this school I think was pretty old, maybe built in the 50s, according to my source.
In elementary school in Jasper, it says, I'm not sure the date of this, will stay closed for at least one more day while officials scurry to try to find out what happened to 45 of its students who got sick.
After spending a noon recess on the school's playground on Friday, the fifth and sixth graders developed fatigue, a rash, nausea, headaches, and had difficulty in breathing.
That's quite a set of symptoms.
Seven students were admitted to a Harrison hospital for observation.
Three emergency workers who came in contact with the students were treated.
One of them was hospitalized.
The school closed that afternoon.
And that is the Associated Press, Joyce.
So obviously, not spring fever.
Obviously, something really did occur there.
Maybe it'll remain a mystery.
I guess I would ask you, Joyce, you're dealing with UFOs and I'm sure delving into the government cover-up business and all the rest of it.
If the authorities knew what this was, and frankly, I'm with the caller from Jasper.
The plasma craft, for example, comes back to Tapos Line every time the Pleiades, you know, the star system of Pleiades lines up in a certain way with the Earth.
And we were there in October with a group and also with a TV show.
And we were fortunate enough to actually film, not the plasma craft, but we got a dog bone-shaped or a cylinder-shaped craft that we filmed actually by the volcano from a very far distance away.
After we sort of got over it, the cameraman had a cellular phone, so we just about killed him over his phone, and we called everybody we could think of in the United States.
Jim De La Cosa actually analyzed it and said that it was a very large something, barbell shape or dog bone shape, very far out in space.
It was much further away than we thought.
And it shows the lights splitting and separating and then coming back together.
You can't really see the definitive shape.
We had some very good night vision equipment, but even the person who ran off with the night vision equipment at the time had her own private sighting so that she really couldn't see the definitive shape, you know, seeing a barbell.
So that was sort of a surprise.
But it was dark, and, you know, at night, when you see lights, you really can't tell a lot of times, you know, what shape you have.
No, I get the warnings, you know, and it comes right up to the edge where they're ready to say it's going to blow.
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Yeah.
And then it doesn't.
Yeah, December the 29th, I think it threw out some giant red-hot folders, you know, bright red, and they really thought it was going that time, but didn't quite make it.
But we're going to be there next week.
We're going down actually Saturday, and we have a group of Australians coming in.
Yeah, and we're going to go down to Pepos Lawn and check on the plasma craft and then back around to the state of Puebla near the volcano and we'll check on the activity there and we'll do some investigating a couple days in Mexico City and meet with people who are having current experiences, very current like last week, yesterday, and tomorrow.
I hear that UFO sightings in Mexico City and around it are so frequent that the people are blasé about it.
They just, it's like an everyday occurrence at this point.
There's so much of it going on.
Is that true?
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That's true.
Everybody, everywhere, has seen something at some time.
And they have, as you've probably heard, the group of vigilantes, this group of young people.
And they usually meet with us.
And they always have new videos and they keep a camera with them all the time because they have so many sightings.
And it's their hobby, their job to film, to record everything they see.
And there's one man down there that we're going to see this time that actually has 1,500 captures of something either on videotape or just a still camera.
I've got Joyce Murphy from Beyond Boundaries newsletter online with me, and I'll tell you why in a moment.
There's something very, very strange going on in Arkansas, and we'll talk a bit more about that.
I have a Title 50, War and National Defense, Chapter 32, Chemical and Biological Warfare Program, with me at 1520.
I'll read part of that in a moment.
I wonder if that's what might have occurred in Jasper, Arkansas.
Anyway, it certainly was not just spring fever.
So we'll get back to Joyce Murphy, and we're talking about that much more, but I want to update those who join at this hour on this story.
It's really, really bizarre.
Well, all right.
For those of you who just joined us, something very strange is going on in Arkansas, a place called Jasper, Arkansas, and I received the following.
Art, several days ago in Jasper, elementary school children began dropping like flies near their gym with symptoms like radiation poisoning.
Coaches and paramedics were also affected.
Those who later tended to the children away from the gym were also affected immediately.
All told now, over 50 have been seriously affected.
Some early news of this reported in the Harrison, Arkansas paper, but now there is a suppression of news getting out of the area.
The area is sealed off.
The Atlanta CDC is there.
Well, we cannot confirm the CDC.
This information came from an MD in or near Jasper in a call to Joyce Murphy of Beyond Boundaries.
The MD was fearful, said his phone was bugged, said that there are fearful of some sort of repercussion if they try to get word of this to the outside.
Now, I contacted Joyce Murphy right away.
She confirmed as best she could the details you just heard.
We just talked to somebody in Jasper who also confirmed the essential details of this story.
Have you heard about it before?
Yes, there was one Associated Press story.
I've got it here.
But no follow-up.
The other interesting aspect, this apparently affected the children while they were on the playground.
And the effects of it were then felt, some very serious effects, as a matter of fact, when they got back inside the school and they began dropping.
Now, something very serious occurred in Jasper.
They don't know what.
According to the caller from Jasper, there has been some sort of compound, was the word she used, detected in their urine and blood.
That's all we know.
Let me read you U.S. Code 50, A portion of it, 1520.
Use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents by the Department of Defense, accounting to congressional committees with respect to experiments and studies, notification of local civilian officials.
Here we go.
Listen to this: A. Not later than 30 days after final approval within the Department of Defense of plans for any experiment or study to be conducted by the Department of Defense, whether directly or under contract involving the use of human subjects for the testing of chemical or biological agents.
The Secretary of Defense shall supply the Committees on the Armed Services of the Senate and House of Representatives with a full accounting of such plans for such experiment or study, and such experiment or study may then be conducted only after the expiration of the 30-day period beginning on the date such accounting is received by such committees.
Well, your eyes could glaze over listening to that, I'm sure.
But what it boils down to is they can experiment on American civilians with chemical or biological stuff as long as they notify some unspecified local civilian officials and give them 30 days notice.
Now, I'm not saying that's what occurred in Jasper.
I'm just reminding you that this U.S. code is real.
Copies in my hand.
We had a link so that you could see it to one of the major university law libraries.
I think it was Cornell.
And that was up on the website as well.
So there you've got it.
That catches you up, I believe.
Here once again is Joyce Murphy.
Joyce?
Yes.
We've got some people here who would like to comment again on this Jasper story.
Do you believe that U.S. Title 50 business, isn't that amazing?
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Well, that's just terrible.
I don't want to hear that.
I'm going to take my grandchildren and go somewhere.
Jasper, Arkansas, something very strange going on.
And if you would, Joyce, for the people who just joined us, again, beginning some days ago, the children came in from playground, collapsed, literally, on the gym floor, complaining of symptoms of what?
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A really bad headache that led to a rash.
I'm not sure what order, but I think the headache was first.
And they were feeling very tired, I believe, was one of the symptoms, and lethargic, I think, and then had breathing difficulties later and broke out in a rash, a really bad rash.
Two days later, the laundry contractor for, I don't know whether it was the Harrison, the hospital's obviously in Harrison, I believe, and they're only medical clinics in Jasper because it's a really small town.
But it was two days later, and the laundry was done, and they became sick, or at least, you know, somebody did.
And the lady who called from Jasper said they've been having concerned adults meeting about this, and they've been not getting what they considered to be any sort of sufficient explanation of what this could have been at all.
It is interesting to hear about the compound, the mysterious compound, whatever in the heck that was.
I can tell you this, if I lived in Jasper, I don't think my son would be going to that school until I knew what the hell was going on.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell and Joyce Murphy.
Hi.
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Hello, Art.
Hello, Joyce.
Hi.
Ken from Scottsdale, Arizona.
Yes, sir.
There's a few things that jump into my mind right away.
First thing I wanted to know was what day of the week was it, a Monday, a Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday?
I got the call at the end of last week, and then he said it was possibly the week before.
It had been, you know, four or five days, I think, before that.
So definitely a Monday through a Friday, but I don't know which one.
Okay, well, the reason I was asking was, you know, was this the first time the playground facility had been used that day?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Yeah.
Could they have, you know, the first, they'd come in on a Monday, and the first time they go out there on a Monday, they get sick.
Or else they're already in school, it's the middle of the week, and they go out, they have their lunch break, having already been out there two or three times for PE, you know, and there would have been other indications of illnesses.
Like, you know, out there during their PE exercises, there would be certain breaking out of illnesses, that type of thing.
There would be indications in that direction.
So it's kind of, I'm kind of curious as to what happened.
One thing I think we could follow up on, I'm not sure they would tell us, but if there was an actual mysterious compound found in their urine and blood, then obviously at some point, I would think the CDC would absolutely be involved.
And if not, until they identified what this was, I would be very shocked.
And if they're not involved, I guess I would want to ask, why not?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joyce Murphy and Art Bell.
The other thing I want to talk about or mention is that this is a center of anti-government activity that stems from the takeover of property some 20, 30 years back.
And, you know, this is the kind of story that you hear about almost as an urban legend, unless you have the resources that I've got to pick off people in this little bitty town in Arkansas and get the truth, as we apparently now are getting, you're going to have other people who are going to call up, like the guy from Little Rock, and they're going to say, ah, it was just a bunch of kids screwing off.
Have you ever heard, Joyce, of anything else like this?
There was, of course, that lady in Southern California who died, whose body gave off very deadly fumes, put people in the hospital, emergency workers, doctors, that kind of thing.
Have you heard of anything else like this incident in Arkansas?
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Not really.
I just heard, you know, like the Azotame scare where everybody turns into formaldehyde and stuff like that.
But I've never heard of, you know, kids dropping like this unless it's something right there in the air that's gassed them or it's, you know, and then being on their clothing too.
That's really strange.
It's usually one or the other, I would think.
And no virus or bacteria.
I'm not a medical person, but I think I have enough sense to know that it doesn't make everybody sick at the same time because people's bodies react differently, you know, for sure.
Yeah, I don't know what date it was that we first started hearing the reports out at Springfield about the kids, but on the morning of the 23rd of January, my brother and I were outside seeing if we could spot the space shuttle before it landed.
We're going out Saturday to Mexico with a group of people who are coming from Australia, all the way from Australia.
And then we have some more people who are joining them.
We usually take about 12 people, which is a nice Size group, and then the group actually goes around and investigates and works with the people who are having contact and experiences with UFO, with crafts, with beings.
We hear of a story.
We work with researchers in each country that we go into, and they give us leads on stories and usually actually even go out with us.
And these are incidences that have happened like in the past six months or less.
No, no, no, I don't mean from an expedition point of view.
I mean, why so many...
Yeah.
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Well, there is a theory, and this is kind of interesting, and we have one person who actually tells us about this when we go down there with an interpreter.
But the ancient pyramids that are in Mexico, you know, they're all over the place.
I don't know really any here in the United States.
So Mexico may be kind of unique, you know, in this respect.
But they're actually joined, or they're setting at intersections of ley lines.
Well, I know about the energy grids or vortexes, whatever they're called.
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Yeah, yeah.
And where these ley lines cross, some of the ancient peoples of Mexico, you know, recognized this earth energy that we've kind of lost our ability to feel unless we learned to douse or do something like that.
But they were more sensitive, and they felt this energy actually from the earth.
And the pyramids were built on the intersections of these ley lines.
And then later, the churches came in, and I guess they liked the way it felt or something, but they built the churches on top of the pyramids.
And then the UFOs seemed to draw maybe some of their propulsion energy or whatever from these ley lines.
They follow these lines, actually.
And the ancient sites have a lot to do with actually drawing UFO activity.
And there are, I don't know how many quartz crystal areas there are in Mexico, but a lot of people believe that UFOs are coming in search of quartz crystal.
Actually, Arkansas area is very rich in quartz, and there are a lot of UFO sightings we were talking about earlier.
A lot of the people don't like to talk about it, I don't think.
In Arkansas, and they're actually coming after the quartz crystal.
So Mexico, maybe the ley lines and the ancient vortexes and the energy spots, you know, it could be something like that.
I guess I'm not usually in on health problems unless they affect around here.
I'm always chasing UFOs.
And I guess the only reason I got in on this Arkansas thing was because there was possibly a UFO involved.
But I don't, that's terrible.
I mean, that's, it feels like I heard somewhere That right before the earth changes or something, that there are going to be a lot of new viruses and bacteria that affect us.
There's something going on that I call the quickening that is sort of a summation of everything that seems to be going on, all these new diseases, mysteries, economic problems accelerating, political problems accelerating.
In every aspect of life, a quickening.
I've been talking about that now for years.
Clearly, there are changes underway, and we are headed toward a large change of some kind, Joyce.
Do you get that sense?
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Yeah, I believe that.
I totally believe that.
I think we're the human resonance, are you familiar with that?
Well, I've heard about the heartbeat of the earth.
I know there is a resonance frequency, and so I, too, am not into all of this New Age stuff, but I have been a talk host for well over a decade now, and I observed this change that we're going through.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Joyce Murphy and Art Bell.
Well, if this is an experiment, you know, I'm just saying it might be, the people that are experimenting with this are going to be wanting to look at the results.
Correct.
So maybe the doctors or professionals that are around there, look around and check them out because they're going to be looking at these kids.
I mean, we're off into utter speculation here, and we should.
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Well, I know it's speculation, but if that is going on, maybe you will be wanting to look at where the guinea pigs are going to be, and then that's where the experimenters are going to be, too.
How frequently do you conduct these UFO expeditions?
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We usually have one a month going to somewhere in the world.
Some of them we just take primary teams for the primary investigation, maybe four or five people.
And a lot of times we'll take a VHD psychologist with us.
And we go out and actually do the logistics for taking a group back later and line up all of the investigation that we want to do so we can be more efficient with our time when we go back.
But we're out at least once a month.
And then the rest of the year, we're traveling to different parts of the United States with our slideshow presentation, our road show that we do free of charge just to share our information.
We just finished doing two hours with Joyce Murphy on a very, very strange subject.
Students suddenly collapsing after being on playground in a little town called Jasper, Arkansas.
Confirmation from people in Jasper.
Confirmation apparently of some kind of substance detected in their bloodstream and their urine.
Very strange story.
Not possible to repeat it all now.
A follow-up, somebody called about children in Southern California succumbing to bacterial infection, and sure enough, here's a newspaper story sent by Melissa at KXNT in Las Vegas.
Dear Art, here's a story about the bacteria in California.
Bacterial infection leaves two children gravely ill, it says, and they have no idea what it is.
They're trying to figure out what it is.
Officials at the San Diego County Health Department said experts do not know why some people develop infections and some don't.
Strange occurrences around our nation, folks.
We will go to open lines here shortly.
Tomorrow night, Whitley Striber on two very, very important topics.
One, asteroids.
There's a lot going on with asteroids, and I mean not just the movie coming up, but real close encounters, maybe too close for comfort.
We'll talk about that tomorrow night.
In addition, the Larson ice shelf in the Antarctic is thought to be breaking up.
I know, you think I'm crazy.
I've got the AP story on it here, and Whitley will fill you in tomorrow night.
That's right, the Larson ice shelf in the Antarctic is breaking up.
So anyway, open lines coming up shortly.
No, I don't care to talk about O.J. Simpson.
If you want to, you can.
O.J. Simpson's comment yesterday, this is far from over, referring, of course, to the 33.5 million he owes now, I guess.
To me, it sounded like a threat that he's going to keep this subject alive in front of the American people no matter what.
Well, all right, we're going to go to open lines now.
I was on vacation, as you know, and I'm back now.
I was in Mazatlan down in Mecole, and had a blast.
Here's a fax from Bob in El Paso, Texas.
Dear Art, I'm Bob from El Paso.
I, too, just returned from Mazatlan.
I was there February 2nd through the 9th.
I had to leave on the 9th because all the rooms everywhere were booked up.
But I still caught the first edge of Mardi Gras, or Carnival, as it's known down there.
And yes, indeed, I was there for Carnival, and he wanted to look me up.
You know, it blew my mind, but there I was in Mazadlan, and I was getting recognized.
I'm a radio guy, and I was getting, I had people, I mean, it's 2,000 miles south, or 1,500, 2,000, whatever it is, away down there, and below the tip of Baja.
And people were recognizing me, taking photographs.
Unbelievable.
But it was a blast.
A carnival was going on and everybody was in a very festive mood.
And they get wild.
I will never, ever understand the theory behind a carnival or a Mardi Gras, if you will, which basically is that you go out and party really hard.
And you party and you party and you party and you party.
And it gets wilder and wilder and wilder and more sinful until you get to Ash Wednesday.
And then on Ash Wednesday, I guess you stop all of that and you repent and think about that which you have just done.
But this occurs on a yearly basis.
In other words, you do evil, you do sin, and then you get clean beginning on Ash Wednesday.
And I've never quite fully understood the psychology of that.
Or maybe I do.
Strange, anyway.
And of course, Mardi Gras in full swing right now.
I would imagine, well, or just ended.
Somebody might call from New Orleans, let me know what the deal is.
I guess it really just at midnight it would have ended.
It's Wednesday, yeah.
Strange.
Anyway, it was going on in Mazatlan, and then to make matters even stranger, a Mexican MTV was there set up, and every teenager from a gazillion miles away somehow knew they were there, and so there were Mexican teenagers all over the place.
All over the place.
Matter of fact, I took a lot of photographs.
We'll probably publish some of those for you, but it was a good trip.
So back in the saddle again.
Open lines, anything you want to talk about is fine with me.
Except O.J. Simpson.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
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Hello.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Belsor?
Yes.
Yes, I've been listening with interest.
I think you have a very interesting show and share a lot of good information with American people.
And I'm wondering if you said if a person has information on what's happening in Jasper to call in?
With the title, the title 50, we have to understand, is what the government has put forth is, I'm sure you would agree, is good for the American people.
If they get a little rebellious, why, we just give them all headaches and have them fall down on the floor, and they get rashes and sick, and who's going to rebel under those circumstances?
If what you're telling me is true, and I have some doubts, then it's sickening.
And if you're even the least bit comfortable with it, then I wonder, sir, about your patriotism, since you brought up the word.
I don't like to overuse that word.
But if this is, as you are alluding to, some sort of government experimentation so we can decide whether we can control civilians under anarchistic conditions, and we're testing it on little school kids, then I've got a real serious problem with that.
I'm not just a little uncomfortable with some aspects.
You know, why do they have to name it something like this?
unidentified
Right.
Right.
But, you know, there's been about 40 cases a year that, for the past several years, here in Orange County, L.A., throughout the South, and also back East.
Well, I was just listening to what's been going on tonight.
Right.
And I'm almost afraid to even talk about it because it's got to do with the virus and all the kids and the government, what that guy was talking about, whatever it is.
Well, I appreciate your call, but I have no idea what you're talking about.
First time caller line.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi.
This is Jim Collins from Tennessee.
Hi, Jim.
I was wondering if maybe you all have heard anything about a train incident in Arizona a few weeks ago.
I heard a story on CNN one time, and they actually showed footage of a train that had been blown up, and they said that the crew members had disappeared.
And I'm telling about all these news reports that you've been getting, and they suddenly disappear.
Yes.
It's just really bizarre to me that I recall back in 1987.
I'm watching the news one day, and the Japanese airline, JAL, they all, over Alaska, all the passengers see a UFO.
They're all talking about it, the pilot's talking about it.
It's on the news.
It's the second story on ABC.
The next day you don't hear a thing about it.
But it seems like in the last six months, that is increasing.
There's a lot more stories that you hear about one day.
Some of them like TWA that keep going on and you hear a lot more about it.
But other things like this train derailment, this situation that took place here in Jasper, suddenly they just disappear into thin air.
And it makes you wonder, the government at times seems at odds with the news media, but yet at other times they seem to have a lot of control over what stories have a continuing.
Until we get to the bottom of it, it's a big story.
Now, maybe it'll turn out to be nothing, but it is insufficient to get an explanation that they found some foreign compound or substance in their blood and urine.
And I'm unwilling to let it drop there.
And I'm going to know before this is over what this is.
unidentified
Without a doubt.
And then, just like you think, say, you think that with 50 people getting sick, there's several other stories in the last 15 years where something's occurred, and you continue to hear about it.
And you get to the bottom of what actually happened.
That's what makes you think that the government has something to do with it, even though it may sound way out there, but it makes you think the government must have something to do with it because we're not hearing about it.
It occurred to me, and I know this might sound silly to some of your other listeners, but it occurred to me maybe you ought to check out the Revelation of John.
My question to you tonight was about, I was wondering if anyone in the sleep paralysis has been weighed to see if they have lost a three-quarter ounce.
And we don't have to have somebody die to give it a shot.
So I'm all for it.
I thought of it myself.
unidentified
Yeah.
I was listening to one of your reruns, and I was wondering, you know, that would be great if someone who can control it would weigh themselves and see.
And imagine this, if you knew by watching the encephalograph, when they were out of body, and you could just go in, you could see the weight loss, you go in and go, wake up, and then all of a sudden, boom, three quarters of an ounce pops back, you've really got something.
unidentified
Yep, and there you go.
It'd be the soul.
There's your answer.
I think that would be great if someone would do that.
But can you imagine, how could anybody, even, I mean, you know, you say the government, but the government is people.
And when it gets right down to it, there's got to be a person who says, okay, you know, we're going to fly a jet over this little town in Arkansas, or we're going to drive a truck by, and we're going to spray these kids in a schoolyard.
I mean, come on now.
Think about that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
But I think we've historically found out that the government does things that we're not too happy about later when we find out about them.
And it varies from the surreal to the real to science fiction.
You know, I'll let the audience pick apart.
unidentified
Well, sure.
But when you think about that, if that has any grounds to it whatsoever, how come we haven't heard that from anywhere else?
You know, we only depend on you for that.
But if there is any real meat to that, what Major Ed Dames comes up with, you would think that there would be someone else that would be latching onto it and going, hey, guess what?
Well, the problem is, like most, thank you, like most seers, predictors, remote viewers, whatever, the media is going to treat that kind of like a prediction.
You know, even Gene Dixon made predictions, and one day she would make some pretty strange predictions.
You remember she predicted Kennedy was going to be shot many other things, late Gene Dixon.
But even her dire predictions would not be publicized necessarily nationally.
It just is not something the American mainstream press does.
That's all.
But, you know, this thing in Arkansas, it's a whole different story.
That's a big story.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Art, this is John from K May, New Jersey.
There must be something wrong with your wildcard line.
It's been busy all night long and you haven't picked it up.
I was wondering, when you were in Mexico, folks here in the United States are always hearing about the political problems in Mexico and the potential for revolution.
You know, my feeling is if the government ever sprays chemicals and involves kids, boy, I'll tell you what, there will be some heads rolling from the top.
Tomorrow night, for example, Whitley Streeber is going to be here, and we're going to talk about the possibility of something hitting Earth, specifically an asteroid, near-Earth asteroids.
And we're going to talk about something very worrisome, and that is the breakup of the Larson ice shelf in the Antarctic.
It's the damnedest thing you've ever heard.
I've got from Sydney, Australia, I've got a story.
Deep holes, cracks several miles long, are spreading through an Antarctic ice shelf, and scientists who examine them predict the shelf will soon collapse.
Two years ago, the northern section of the 620-mile-long Larson ice shelf collapsed after a period of warmer than usual temperatures they are now suggesting that one scientist said quote it will be destroyed without any doubt this is a scientist who has spent the past seven years observing that area and he now believes the entire ice shelf is going to so
we're going to be talking about that tomorrow.
And I don't mean to unnecessarily worry you, but this is a real story.
Strange, but true.
So, Whitley Streber, here tomorrow night, talking about near-Earth asteroids, as well as this problem, apparent problem, with the Larson ice shelf.
I know, folks, if it isn't the quickening, then what in the world
world is it we're gonna break here at the top of the hour I'm Art Bell from the high desert the parent new home of the troop of opera this is CBC you're listening to Coast to Coast a.m. with
unidentified
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So what answers do you have that you can enlighten us all with?
unidentified
Well, the DNA, there's some hieroglyphics that can't be read.
And they find out that in DNA, the messages or ideas are put in between the genes, and they're attached by enzymes.
But The Mayans knew how to start these enzymes.
Somebody will catch on.
I know it's pretty simple.
If you go to the hieroglyphics and you find out how the mind works, it takes the scientists, because I've been going through a lot of DNA stuff because my son had a brain tumor.
And that's what gave me the courage to go through these fears in order to find the answer.
But it's actually have to change your belief systems.
And you have to have the truth.
And once you find that, you will find the answers.
It'll take me about an hour to explain it all.
But I don't want to do that on the air because people will get the wrong idea.
What I got out of that was that other Mayans had decoded DNA, and that information is contained in hieroglyphics that have not been decoded.
But that you know that.
So maybe tomorrow night, Whitley is going to talk a little bit about the Mayans and their calendar, as a matter of fact, as we talk about this incredible Larson ice shelf business.
It's getting ready to collapse, the entire ice shelf.
And, you know, I'm curious, if that occurs, and I was talking with Whitley about this earlier, what are the implications?
In other words, let's assume whether it's global warming or for whatever other reason, this ice shelf is going to let go.
Yeah, but the implication of what he said is that because somebody doesn't like the government, they're going to do something to a bunch of school children on playgrounds?
unidentified
No, you just don't like your children passing out for no known reason, especially with rasters and bruises, and no answer.
I thought the reason why I asked if it was live, because I think one of your hours is put on replay.
But evidently, I've got you live, and I'm at the 319.
Well, I'm glad to speak to you.
And I wanted to ask if you've heard anything, if anybody has said anything about this huge ice field that they suspect is breaking away and has already split.
When that mixes with salt water, there is going to be an effect.
I don't know what that effect is.
I'm not a scientist, but obviously the Larson ice shelf breaking off is a very serious event, and we've got to figure out who to talk to to find out.
unidentified
Well, what we need to do, Art, is we need to go up there before it breaks, it gets into one of the current streams and anchor it up there and then take off the fresh water and market it.
I hear the Japanese have taken ice cubes off of some of those icebergs because the purity and clarity of the water makes excellent ice cubes.
I don't know why we don't just anchor that thing up there and put a claim on it.
But I'm going to find out a little more about it, and I'll facture some info if you want.
In other words, whether it's global warming or it's something else that's causing this, they're saying here that the average temperature has risen 4.5 degrees over the last 50 years.
And it does not take very much of a change in temperature to cause something like an ice shelf, which is actually ecologically very delicate, to completely change.
Now, we have gone through ice ages before, and then I suppose periods when it warms.
But remember that our presence here is a rather delicate balance.
And I want to understand, and I'm sure you do too, exactly what the implications are.
This is not a maybe.
This is occurring, folks.
Worrisome as it may be, it is occurring.
It's a 4,600 square mile ice shelf on the Antarctic Peninsula.
And it is predicted to collapse completely within the next two years.
That's why we had people like you turn the radio down.
unidentified
Oh, okay, that's fine.
Well, I'm glad for that.
Anyway, if I was curious on the mutated frogs and everything that people have been finding, and now with this ice thing and the bacteria found and everything, the quickening, you know, it seems to me that you guys do have a definite point on that.
It sounded to me like that, you know, one way or another that his story didn't, I don't know, it didn't really, you know, that it didn't match for some reason, you know, as far as that goes.
So ultimately, you see, if contractor or direct employee, your money is coming from the American taxpayer.
Just so I'd point that out.
unidentified
Okay, well, yeah, but anyway, getting back to what I was saying, yeah, I don't know about all this crap that's going on, but I was going to ask you as far as when were you going to have either Ed Dames back or Joyce Riley back on?
And I was wondering, since it was a replay and I just heard it the other day, if you ever had gotten a name from where they had, where they got the photos, or what was the outcome of that?
I don't know for sure that the government did anything.
I have no proof of that.
But with respect to past actions by the government, yeah, the government is people.
I mean, ultimately, somebody's got to push a button, pull a switch, yank a lever, do something that is going to spray something or another onto the civilian population.
Could you do that?
Are you surprised that there aren't people out there who can do that?
I am.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
This is TRN and CBC, Talk Radio Network and Chancellor Broadcasting Company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
And listen, if anybody out there has any information on what this ice shelf is going to do when it breaks up, what changes it will bring on, and what it means, I would appreciate the input by email at artvell at aol.com or fax me at area code 702-727-8499.
Don't send any more than three pages or I'll never see it.
There are lives lost, and the money is not going to mitigate anything.
unidentified
When things happen like Jasper, for instance, it's easy to use something like O.J. and Menendez boys and stuff like that to divert everybody's attention.
I will read you one thing that I think is relevant, if I can find it about O.J. here.
One thing that I think is relevant.
Yeah, here it is.
See if you agree with this, because I do.
Mark.
Concerning the recent civil lawsuits against O.J. Simpson, which the jury awarded a total of $33.5 million for the plaintiffs, over the last several nights I recalled a statement that you once made.
Quote, there are many different prisons in one's life, end quote.
Yes, I said that.
It may be true, in Mr. Simpson's situation, that civil prison consisting of losing all of his assets, endorsement income, and future appearances in naked gun sequels will prove worse than spending time in the pokey.
Furthermore, even though he'll be free to walk the streets, he'll probably be shunted like a leper.
I feel that two wrongs have been mitigated, but I believe also that the juice has placed himself in the worst prison of all.
Well, first thing I wanted to say was that 4,400 square miles is really, not really very big.
The big island out here is 4,000 square miles.
So in terms of a nice...
Well, in terms of the whole Pacific Ocean, the amount of ice and fresh water, I don't think it's really that big.
But what I wanted to mention was that a year ago at least, I read in Discover magazine about evidence that had been collected down there by scientists that the entire ice shelf, not the shelf, but the entire cap, the western and eastern caps, had shown evidence of having slid into the ocean on two or three occasions in the past.
And we're talking now like the, I believe the western ice shelf is bigger than the United States, the whole continent of the United States.
Yeah, well, the Larson shelf, should it break up completely, which is what they're saying is going to occur, would be a precursor possibly to the rest of it.
I mean, this is quite serious, and nobody's talking about what it is going to mean.
unidentified
Well, from what I read in this article, if the eastern ice shelf, if I have it right, the smaller one was to slide into the ocean, and that was the one that the article was mainly about.
At the end of the article, there was kind of an epilogue that said that they had recently discovered the same evidence of the western, the bigger Antarctic layer, the ice layer had a lot of significantly.
But it said if the smaller one had slid in, besides the waves that it would produce, probably would be 1,000 feet high, but it would raise the sea level by, I think the figure was 60 feet, which would give me oceanfront property here in Kauai.
But if the bigger ice shelf was to go, which computer models that they ran, some scientists ran and it was noted in this article, if it actually went in, that it would raise worldwide sea level by 200 feet.
And I just this last month was reading in one of the magazines that I read, and I can't remember which one, but there is a whole article about this same thing, not so much the ice shelf, but the entire continental cap.
And it has to do with the glacial streams that occur underneath these ice layers.
Apparently, when melting occurs, or at least by their computer models, when melting occurs, this water accumulates underneath this ice and becomes a frictionless type of coating, a super cold, frictionless coating, which is what allows this whole cap to, in one motion, just sort of boom into the ocean.
At any rate, we'll have more information for you tomorrow night, and I very much appreciate what you've said.
unidentified
Well, I really enjoy listening to your show.
I do think that the clicking, my own personal beliefs, is that we're not going to see anything in a major, major catastrophe.
I mean, there have been these sorts of things that have, but as far as taking out the whole of the human population at one time, I really think that God has different plans for us.
We're intended to become an example for a whole universe of people that have grown into spiritual truth.
Well, look, quit asking me how much longer we're going to be on.
Just start talking.
unidentified
Okay, well, um, for one, if you Notice a lot of the sightings are in places where there's likely to be some kind of underground subterranean type of military installation.
And I think personally that the UFOs might actually be our own government precaution.
So maybe then the government loaded a mid-50s car on a high-altitude transport, dumped that sucker out, comes crashing down to make us think there are aliens, to divert our attention from something else, right?
There's troubles down there, and we're going to be feeling it.
Trust me when I tell you that.
Dear Art, I believe I can estimate roughly the effect on sea level of the melting of the ice shelf.
I heard once that if all of the ice on Earth melted, sea level would be raised about 600 feet.
If we estimate the amount of water trapped in this ice above the surface of sea due to the accumulation of precipitation on the shelf, this might be 1 1000th to 1 5,000th of the total volume.
In other words, the melting of this ice would raise sea level somewhere between 2 and 8 inches.
In some coastal areas and on islands, this could have a significant effect.
In other areas, the effect would be virtually unnoticeable.
The addition of this volume of freshwater to the oceans probably would have very little effect overall.
Remember, when it rains, large amounts of fresh water are deposited on the surface of the ocean.
That certainly is true, but not in this kind of amount all at once.
I'm not sure how the assimilation of that would be.
Hey, last time I was on your show was about three years ago when I won a debate that Fred was our great president.
It's been a while.
I have an interesting theory for you about UFOs and aliens.
You know, Carl Sagan didn't really believe in a popular belief of aliens.
You know, he moved in life in Outer Space, but believes that the odds of life in Outer Space evolving to look like they do in popular fiction is probably a million to one.
Or it may be that on planets with a reasonable gravity, that which wouldn't crush you and make you into a pancake, or that where you'd be so light you'd be taken 25 feet, 25 foot jumps into the air, but planets with similar amounts of gravity would tend to evolve creatures that would be, at least in some respects, similar to humans.
With all of the news about asteroids, and I've got a lot of news sitting right here and I've been kind of holding it because it is something we are going to discuss tomorrow night.
I'm a little s is it wrong to be suspicious?
I mean all of a sudden we're told that they have found a near-Earth asteroid that has the possibility, a very short return time of hitting Earth.
Now, we've got a movie, or we've had many movies, actually, about this kind of thing.
And I am frankly and honestly a little suspicious.
It's almost like fiction preceding reality or a known reality being presented as fiction to accustom us to the idea.
So when the sucker hits, we'll say, oh yeah, an asteroid.
Now, I know that sounds a little paranoid, and maybe it is, but I find it a little more than just simply coincidental.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
How are you doing?
Okay.
Art, I want to talk about a subject that was probably four months old.
All right.
What it was, was, I think a guy with a camper that was doing water injection and said he got, excuse me, walk, like 45 miles to the gallon out of the thing or something.
I know that's a long ways back.
You were fascinated by the fact that he was burning about, I think, eight gallons of water for one gallon of gas or something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I was going to mention that I think, you know, I'm not a physics expert, but a vehicle can actually generate as much as 15 gallons of water for every gallon of gas it burns.
I get almost 60 miles to the gallon, and I don't even put water in it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, and you don't need to.
How about that?
I think the reason for water injection, and it's a good one, if you look into the aircraft industry in the past anyway, and probably even currently, is that water injection, what it tends to do is knock out the carbon in a motor.
And so if you've got highly leaded gases, which are typically aircraft, you know, and if you look at aircraft, it's not untypical to see water injection.
Is that I think typically what happens is that when you get the highly leaded gases, if you throw a little water in there, it helps to keep the carbon free.
And more completely burns the fuel and a lot of other things.
I'm familiar with that.
I've got a question I want to ask some of you who know about aircraft.
The use of kerosene, of course, in jet aircraft.
And the reason I mention that is sitting in a 737 the other day, I was nearly overwhelmed with the smell of kerosene, which, of course, is what the jet was using.
But it was very, very strong.
And a great deal of kerosene is burned.
And I'm not sure how completely the kerosene is burned.
An awful lot of it must be residual in the atmosphere as a jet makes passage.
And I would like to ask if, A, that really is true.
And B, what effects ecologically that would have?
Is that a hard question?
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art.
There's a movie that I would suggest you watch.
I recorded it last night.
I don't know if it's in the store or anything, but it's called Woop's Apocalypse.
But don't let anyone tell you the end because it's very surprising, and it stars Loretta Swid as president.
But every inch of it is totally funny, I tell you.
And just get a check of it.
And then something else, let's see, I talked with someone who was over from China recently, last night, and I asked him about the pyramids that are supposed to be over there.
And he did not know anything about it, but surprisingly, without him even knowing of my interest in your show or UFOs, he said, but there are UFOs.
And so I'm going to talk to him again maybe later on and try to ask more questions very carefully.
First of all, all the military craft that have been brushing against our passenger airliners, and I feel that's real strange, and I think it's been going on for a lot of years.
And not only that, I think our passenger airlines having the radar detection on them, I don't think the military aircraft would, you know, that the military would ever admit it, you know, unless we had those kind of instruments on the plane.
And I just kind of wondering why is that happening all the time?
And the 800 flight, I think really, I really believe that it was shot down and our government is denying the whole thing.
I really, in my heart, believe that it was shot down.
And as I said, the only comfort that I can possibly give you is that any woman who would leave somebody like yourself for a lizard, well, you're better off without her.
Well, I don't know how he could have done that, because it was originally instituted, this U.S. Code, back in the 50s, and Bill Clinton was just a political gleam in somebody's eye.
So how could he have done that?
unidentified
No, according to what they've been talking about, it was passed two years ago.
Yeah, it's going to be a subject of more depth tomorrow night.
unidentified
Right.
One of your colleagues said that if they were to melt, it could raise the ocean level 200 feet, what would that do to the structure of the United States?
It's something you never want to meet on a dark night.
It is a creature with large red eyes, the ability to move at about 60 miles an hour, three large claws in front, and it drains animals of all their blood.
I just want to know what would you do if you had the power to either stop it or keep it from happening, even if you knew that it was something that was meant to be?