Art Bell’s Coast to Coast AM open lines feature Scott Quartz Lean alleging nuclear sabotage at Three Mile Island and a missing cobalt-60 shipment, while callers debate UFOs—including lunar anomalies near Ukur crater—remote viewing, and theories like tachyons and zero-point energy. Dreams of earthquakes (July 10, October 7) and Earth’s "quickening" suggest impending upheaval, blending science with fringe claims. Bell teases Major Dames’ remote-viewing revelations and NASA’s Europa findings, contrasting wild speculations—like "beach bongo aliens"—with Carl Sagan’s validated theories, leaving listeners to ponder the line between reality and the unexplained. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I would like to bid you good evening, good morning, as the case may be across this great land of ours, from the Asian and Hawaiian Island chains in the west, eastward across wine over country to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north all the way to the pole and worldwide on the internet.
And you will enjoy him from ham radio to health to aliens to you name it.
We'll talk about it tomorrow night with Wayne Green.
He is full of all kinds of energy on all kinds of subjects, and he's a lot of fun.
You're not going to want to miss that.
Recalling for you that on the 30th, we're going to have Major Ed Danes, who is a remote viewer, has been in Hawaii, has a major announcement, he says, that he wants to break on this program.
So that's coming up.
And then on the 28th, I've got Scott, and I'm going to have a tough time with his last name, Quartz Lean, I believe it is, who has testified in front of the U.S. Senate and the NRC about nuclear safety,
and actually not about nuclear safety, about the fact that he thought Three Mile Island was sabotage and about exactly how much bomb-grade material is actually out there, cobalt-60 barium.
You know, he says that this last Thursday, they intercepted one ton, I said a ton of cobalt-60 barium going from the U.S. to Mexico, from the U.S. to Mexico.
So we'll talk with him on the 28th.
And I am also booking a, or at least I believe I'm going to, he's in the middle of talking to his parishioners about it, a priest who is convinced that UFOs, including, by the way, an experience that he had, of course, are demonic and are part of, and he agrees with, what I call the quickening.
However, he believes that it's the end times.
Same scenario, different name.
I think you'll be amazed.
Now, the U.S. House made history Tuesday quietly and in a restrained manner by voting to reprimand Speaker Newt Gingrich and fine him $300,000 for ethics violations.
Question now is where he gets the money.
Will he be able to dip into his campaign funds left over to pay the fine?
Or should he pay it out of his own pocket?
Now, if you donated or had donated to the Newt Gingrich re-election campaign and he used that money to pay his fine, would you be unhappy?
Or would you think your money was going to good use?
Not a lot of other news.
The teen sweethearts accused of murder are out on $300,000 bail each.
Amy Grossberg and Brian Peterson released Tuesday, but remain under house arrest.
Yeltsin is in more trouble.
He's fighting to regain his health, and he may soon find himself fighting to keep his job.
Russia's lower house of parliament Wednesday will discuss whether Yeltsin can be forced to step down because he is ill.
Interesting, I wonder who would take over and what they would be all about.
The shuttle Atlantis is due to touchdown at about 7.47 a.m. Eastern Time.
Now that could be interesting.
And I would like to know if anybody out there knows what the path is going to be.
That means 4.47 Pacific.
And earlier than that, see it pass this Pacific area.
So sometimes when the shuttle comes back, it puts on a whale of a show.
Parents who think their kids are, or might be, using drugs now have a new way to test their suspicions.
Now, is it moral?
Is it ethical?
In other words, you can hand your kid a little urine collection sample folder and say, here go fill this, and send it into a government-approved testing center.
There they will pour over it to try to find marijuana, PCP, speed, cocaine, heroin, codeine, And morphine.
And if they find it, presumably they report that back to you, and you get to deal with it the way you want.
Is it ethical?
Is it proper?
Could you really ask your child with a straight face to do it?
Would it be embarrassing for you, for them?
Would it be an invasion of privacy?
Well, no, because they're kids.
So what do you think of the idea of home testing?
I was shocked to learn that here in the Parump Valley, we had a 3.9 earthquake Friday morning.
I never felt a thing, not one thing.
But we did have one, so I guess we must have a fault here someplace.
This is interesting.
Initial results of a survey of 1,200 veterans conducted by Democratic Senator Donald Regal of Michigan indicate that Gulf War syndrome may be contagious.
According to the senator's office, 78% of Gulf War veteran spouses, 25% of the children born before the Gulf War, and 65% born since, show symptoms of the mysterious disease.
Wow.
78% of the spouses?
According to a spokesman for Senator Regal, the survey demonstrates that Gopor syndrome is transmissible and it rules out some of the possible causes.
It is not post-traumatic stress.
It's got to be some kind of viral or bacterial infection.
Our focus is on chemical or biological agents.
So again, more evidence that what Nurse Riley has been saying is exactly right.
Now I'm not an expert on chemical warfare, but I believe that chemical exposure is not transmissible.
Therefore, that would indicate, so would this survey, that we've got something on our hands here in the country now brought back that is not just the Gulf War vets, but potentially everybody.
And as there are divorces and remarriages and various mixtures of all sorts that we all know go on, it may spread and spread and spread.
And somebody out there who had not a thing to do with the Gulf War other than reading the headlines and watching it on CNN may find themselves down with something they have no idea how to cure.
Nor any idea what it is.
Anyway, open lines tonight, folks.
Anything that is on your mind is fair game, and then as I said, tomorrow night, we will switch gears, and I think you will really, really enjoy Wayne Green, particularly if you've never heard him.
By the way, he has put a statement up, which we have linked to on our webpage explaining everything.
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So if you want to read Courtney's latest statement, I'm afraid there's too much damage done on remote film and it will take years before it will ever come out again the way it was supposed to be presented.
But he just wrapped himself with his own fantasy.
And I would say also, 8th Thames, if you're listening, walk very carefully because he made a lot of mistakes to edge.
Of course, the people out there really don't realize what is being said when we're talking ancient civilization down in New Mexico, what was supposed to be discovered in 93 by August.
And 8th Tam said, quote, if we don't have them by the August, end of August, we're going to go out of the UFO game.
Well, At Temps are listening.
I hope you get out of the UFO game because too many mistakes were made.
The arena is too full with charlatans and Suits here.
It doesn't mean for one second that I'm going to stop looking into it.
I'm not.
You see, once you've had an experience, as I have had, once you have really, really seen something close up, it will change you.
Now, look, I didn't see something until I was almost 50, and I'm 51.
But I saw it, folks, close up, real as a heart attack.
And so I know there is something there.
I don't know what it is, but I know there is something to all this.
It's not all baloney.
If some of it is, then that is to be expected because we're dealing with something you, well, as I say in Dreamland, that you can't quite fit into a neat little box.
Not all the proof is there, and there's going to be a lot of sifting that you've got to do.
So in other words, when a ghetto blaster type vehicle pulls up next to you with some heart-pounding, throbbing, who knows what, you simply zoom in, blot out their music, and play your own.
The old thumping rapping music pulls up next to you at about 100 decibels.
And you simply reach over, click the on switch, tune it until you instead hear the opera music suddenly coming from their hundred decibel throbbing speakers.
There is justice in the world, isn't there?
Let's break here.
You're listening to the American CBC Radio Network.
And just the other night I saw another episode of it, and they were talking about this place called the Mystery Spot, and it was in, I believe, someplace in California, Santa Cruz or another.
Some call them vortexes, whatever you want to call them.
Areas of magnetic disruption.
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Right on.
Well, they were talking about different types of a pyramid that was buried underneath it and this supercomputer that was, this guy was all whacked out.
And I'd never heard of that guy before.
And I was just curious if you happened to seen that episode or something of the listeners maybe have happened to caught it and knew who he was.
I know when Oliver Hynot was on, he was saying that the film size of his pictures from the University of Hawaii were the same as Courtney Brown's pictures that you put up on the web.
And I realized yesterday what the situation probably was, because if you go through a photographic film, you know, he's going to put it on, somebody's going to put it on film and somebody else is going to take it off film and the probability of getting the same resolution back off is tremendously small.
Unless that is, you happen to pull the photograph off the website.
But that issue completely aside, that photograph had to be taken from Hawaii within minutes of when it was taken.
That photograph, without any ability to argue, is the same photograph as the one that I received from Courtney Brown.
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I know, but here's the second point.
Here's my big point.
What I'm really going to get to is saying that this went through the intermediary of film.
This was a direct digital transmission from the original digital signal from his CCD display through Courtney Brown to your website because the reason I'm saying that is the cell size is the same on the two.
Well, I would recommend that you read Mr. Brown's statement.
We have a link to it on our webpage now.
And in it, you see, when we did the show with Whitley Streeber, Courtney Brown and myself, last week, Whitley reasonably suggested that there be a private examination of the film that Courtney Brown said he had.
Courtney Brown, in his statement, is refusing, publicly or privately, to release any of that film.
So such an examination is not going to be possible.
He will not pursue the examination nor the trail of evidence with regard to any physical evidence.
Oh, okay, because, you know, I thought, you know, we were making a lot of progress as far as bringing them out into the light so everybody could see they're not this big scary thing.
Most of us, as a matter of fact, if we dream, unless we make a conscious effort to either write it down or sit down after you wake up and recall intentionally the details, you forget it.
It's gone.
You know it is.
Within about half an hour, an hour, well after your first cup of coffee, the dream begins to fade and by the time you pick up your first phone call or whatever you're going to do for the day, it's gone.
John's still flying, and I'm going to have him on the air again one of these days.
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The first time I ever listened to you, it was an interview with him, and it was the same night that Vandenberg had launched a test missile in the middle of the night.
What it means is that that photograph, the one claimed to be from a top ten astronomer, was fraudulently obtained by some unknown person from the Hawaiian website.
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Yeah.
Well, I was just thinking that, you know, I don't know why everybody, well, you know, why you get so upset over it, though, because the kind of stuff you do kind of lends itself to that possibility.
I mean, in this case, we had a tenured university professor, a graduate physics student saying this was from a top 10 university astronomer.
And that's fairly heavy.
And they said they had signals, and they said he was going to come forward and have a news conference.
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Well, you know, when you first started talking about that photo and there was this mysterious astronomer that you didn't know his name, when I first heard it, I had this feeling that it was all phony.
You know, so that was pretty heady stuff, and it was claimed physical evidence, and the claimed physical evidence turned out to be absolutely fraudulent.
So what I would do, if I were you, is to go up, and if you didn't hear the show, read the statement on the website.
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Okay, I heard part of the show.
I think I heard enough to draw my own conclusions.
Oh, okay.
Well, but what was something earlier in the show tonight you were saying that something you saw when you were almost 50?
One could imagine a personal agenda on the part of somebody who wants to forward the concept, use it for their own reasons.
One could imagine a disinformation campaign to, in effect, get the public to forget all about whatever other evidence might exist, and certainly it has done that.
One could imagine all kinds of things without knowing.
That's why I want to pursue the physical evidence.
And once again, let me say, Courtney Brown's statement, the one in which he says there will be no examination of physical evidence, is on my website now.
It's on his, and I think we've got a link over there, so if you want to read what he has to say, go ahead.
So if you have or know anybody who has built or is building what would classically be called a time machine, email me or write to me or call me or get a hold of me somehow and I will pursue it.
I mean, I went through wardrobe, then I went through makeup, and they took my hair and slicked it all back and turned it gray, and my mustache was shaven, and they put makeup on and aged me because William Paley is a little older or looked a little older.
And so they completely modified me, and now they're contemplating doing it again.
If you go up and down the terminator, that's when you can really see a lot of anomalies because the light Shines in the dark part where it's not supposed to.
Well, all I can say is that I hope that if I die and I remain here as a spirit or a poltergeist, that I am not reduced to an eternity of at best playing practical jokes on people.
Much as I may enjoy them in this life, doing it for eternity, plugging in coffee pots in the middle of the night or something, for grins, for eternity, is not my idea of real fun.
But, of course, maybe that's the ultimate punishment for a practical joker in this life.
Cosmic justice.
East of the Rockies, you're on here.
Hi.
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Hello, Art.
Hello.
You said you like to get two sides of the story, right?
Yeah, well, I saw a program where researchers suggest that when the earthquakes happen, that it releases, like, some kind of energy, and that's what's doing all the abductions.
Yeah, but it only takes one, well, he was snatched out of the woods, sir, but it only takes, it only takes one real one to make it real.
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Not necessarily, because these other people, see, they put somebody in a room and they put this electromagnetic activity thing on their head, and they saw things, they felt things tugging at them when they knew that there was nobody in the room.
You know?
I mean, that sounds more scientifically explainable that way, you know?
I believe I have, and I believe that Courtney Brown is disingenuous.
That's all.
And I think that when you get close to this kind of stuff that you're getting into, you're playing with a power that is beyond our belief system.
And people get kind of funny when they get around this kind of information.
And you have to be a certain type of person to be able to receive this kind of information and not allow it to change you or entice you into other things.
In this case, we're dealing with highly physical matters.
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Yes, but when you play with science and religion and you put them together, when these books that I got tonight, Psychic Ware, you know, and they're all out on the shelves, everyone is trying to figure out what is this power and what is this thing.
And these scientific evidences of it, like remote viewing, are things that are very verifiable.
But they're still not the experience.
So you follow what I'm saying?
No.
You're not following the idea that what you're all trying to understand is something that's completely out of the mind and completely out of the intellect.
My question to you would be, do you believe in a God?
What occurred with Courtney Brown, the remote viewing aspect of it totally aside, there's a great deal of physical evidence.
There's a fraudulent picture, and there's a refusal on his part to examine or to allow any physical evidence that he now still claims to have to be examined.
Well, there's nothing hard to understand about that for me.
Not any of it.
I'm Art Bell, and this is CBC.
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CBC.
CBC.
This is TRN and CBC, Talk Radio Network and Chancellor Broadcasting Company, home of Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
Well, if you were having UFO sightings every time you had an earthquake, or nearly every time, or even most of the time, then you might make that leap.
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And I've got a comment and a question to ask.
Another comment, I should say.
Yes.
Okay, on the guy from the far side instant, my mind just slipped.
Okay, he's my opinion is that he's under duress at some time.
It's going to get worse before it's going to get better.
By the way, the current landing ground track for NASA on orbit 159, oh, you lucky people, is going to be Vancouver, B.C. It's going to come, the shuttle, if it lands on schedule,
is going to come right over Vancouver, B.C., cross over the Great Lakes, and then orbit 160 passes more or less directly over Vancouver, B.C. with a less shallow arc over the U.S. or central U.S. So, you guys up north may have quite a show.
I wonder if you've got clear skies in Vancouver.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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All right, let me turn my radio down.
All right.
This is Curtis from San Diego.
Yes, sir.
Could it have been Dr. Brown himself that these pictures made him phony?
The thing about the U.S. Stephen Gibbs, remember he was saying to get it, now, before I ask the question, now, it's not battery operated, the time machine, right?
Well, if it can't take up a solid mass, where are you going to plug it into the wall when you're the answer was, and it was asked on the program, you're not.
Eventually, if you have done it right, you are going to automatically come back.
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No, okay, what I was saying, when you start to go, you said you plug it into the wall and you program it.
Yeah.
But if you plug it on the wall, once you have to be like at your house or someplace that an object that a grid point couldn't be.
And what I was concerned about when I asked the question was, when you came back in 1500 or whatever year, that you not come back in the middle of a wall or a floor or something like that.
So I presume you could be inside, but it would avoid putting you in something solid.
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And another thing was on the UFOs, people spawning if UFOs.
I've never seen one.
I'm not saying that they're not out there.
I believe that they are because you're saying like, it's just like saying everybody on Earth lives on North America.
You know, none of the other continents can have life.
You know, and it's just like happens to be Earth is the only planet in the whole solar system, in our solar system that is, that consists of life forms.
So, I mean, I'm sure that there'll be UFOs out there, just I haven't seen one.
And I would like to see one before, you know, I die.
Real close up, very, very, I mean, reach out and touch it, kind of close, you know.
Really kind of like close encounters of the third kind, you know, where the ship pulls over you and the moon and the stars disappear and they're blanked out.
That close, that big.
And that will modify your thinking on the subject, I guarantee you, forever.
Now, considering that I went to be almost 50 years old before I ever saw anything, I can easily imagine that a lot of people will go there entire lives and never see a thing.
Never.
It's odds.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
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Hello.
Hello.
I finally got through.
Yes.
I'm just calling for probably a completely different region that you've been talking about.
Well, if the universe were not expanding, the sky would never go dark because there's enough suns in the universe to where, you know, even though they're very far away, they would generate enough light to fill in the night sky.
And what the degree of authenticity of those photos were.
And if they are authentic, I had an idea as to how it could be possibly validated.
One of the explanations that had been postulated was that it was a blooming star in the background.
And if the redshift of the anomalous object could be measured and then compared to the stars in the background, if it was a star, then that should be readily apparent.
The reason being sir, originally the Japanese called that an anomalous object with a large funnel-like protrusion from the rear of it extending into space a considerable distance.
That's what they said at first.
Then they said, oh no, it's a star and a CCD artifact.
So your guess is as good as mine.
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Very good.
The other thought I had was that as evidence of faster than light travel, there is a classic experiment where two electrons are made to travel in opposite directions.
And when you don't observe either one, you can't predict the polarity of either electron.
However, when you observe one, you can precisely predict the polarity of the other.
That implies that there's some interaction taking place between the two particles.
And since they're both traveling at the speed of light in opposite directions, whatever that interaction would be would have to be occurring faster than light.
Okay, he's kind of a, well, he's a singer, but he's like a real religious fanatic, and he has some really twisted beliefs, and I think it'd stir up a lot of stuff on your show.
I thought Christopher Walken was the best evil angel I've ever seen.
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Yeah, I thought it was pretty good myself.
But yeah, finally he's going to make his movie debut on Prophecy Part 2, and I thought if you could get him on there, I thought that'd be a pretty interesting show.
Now, I don't know if that's because of a, you know, because it's illegal or what, or if the paranoia would go away if it was legalized or decriminalized or not.
Okay, that's one.
Another one is making mountains out of molehills.
Every little task, no matter how small, becomes a mountain.
By that I mean it's a great difficulty to do the smallest of tasks.
Um, Luke, um, the quickening is, um, thanks for the call.
The quickening to me, and I'm a layman, is everything you see compounding around you socially.
The lack of civility, increasing lack of, the violent murder rate, the fact that people are killing people with no deference to any value of life at all.
It is the economic disaster that we are facing and coming closer to by the minute.
It is the political nonsense in Washington that has gone so far out of line that I've given up on it.
I see so very little difference between the major candidates and even, for that matter, the parties right now.
So little difference that it's almost not worth talking about, frankly.
As you noticed and may have noticed, I don't talk a lot about politics anymore.
And the reason is, there's not much to talk about.
Because there is not much difference in what any of them would do.
Including the difference between Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton.
I've got four non-associated topics I want to pass by you.
All right.
You know, there was someone talking about the Earth rotation of slowing down, and it was a possibility because of damming up rivers and the tornadoes coming off the hurricanes.
Yes.
Cadet, you know, I was thinking because the sun has a lot of heating and cooling on the earth, just maybe that few degrees slower a spin would let the sun's rays either heat it up longer or cool it off more, and that's why our weather pattern's changing.
You should do, this is just a suggestion, possibly hire somebody that does sign language for the deaf to do transcripts for, or you know, to hand out or sign language your show.
And I just recently started listening to your program.
And a girlfriend and I have been having a lot of dreams lately about earthquakes and earth changes.
And this really has been going on with me for at least 10 years.
But they've really been heating up lately.
And we live real close to St. Louis.
Well, we took a venture over Labor Day to go see the white buffalo in Janesville, Wisconsin, because we were thinking that we might get some answers up there.
And there was a lot of power up there you could feel and stuff.
But I felt like I was leaving without any answers until my girlfriend found a copy of Gordon Michaels Gillian's map in the gift shop.
And we looked at it, and we both had the intense impression that his map was not entirely correct.
And because it was missing Alton and St. Louis altogether, and the dreams that we had for this area were that Alton was not only going to get hit along with St. Louis, but that most of Alton was going down like two stories into the ground.
And we were trying to figure out why that would be, why it wouldn't just be leveled until I found out that Mississippi Line and several other mining operations have been undermining the entire area so that it's totally honeycombed.
And they're continuing to do that.
Well then in part of her dream she had seen that we had like 24 hours to get people to safety before the waters hit.
I said, well, you know, we have the Mississippi here and the Missouri River.
What waters, you know, that would come immediately.
What else is there?
And then when we looked at Gordon's map, he was talking about Lake Michigan spilling into the Mississippi River.
Well, we realized that after we saw that map.
So now I just had to get this out because I want people to know if they're listening.
These are the impressions we've gotten recently.
I had a dream, and in the dream, I feel like I was told of the date of when this was going to occur.
And in my vision, the dates that I came up with are July 10th of 1997.
I believe there's going to be a major tremor stemming from the Madrid fault line here in the Midwest.
And then I believe that the very big earthquake that's going to do, you know, it's going to change our lives totally, is going to be October 7th of 1997.
And I think in other words, it is something that is beginning to race toward a conclusion that will be an event, not necessarily the end of the world, mind you, but an event of some great magnitude.
Not the end, and there'll be something on the other side, but it will be different.
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You know, that's interesting because I've been taking a bit of a poll of the people I know, including my family who are very conservative people.
And pretty well everyone that I talk to knows that something is coming.
Well, I was calling in regards to the guest that you had about a week and a half ago, the gentleman with the time traveling machine.
Yes.
And he said something during the course of the interview about there was a small pad that you rubbed back and forth, and you waited until it felt sticky.
Well, it just struck a note in something that happened to me when I was younger.
We had a lady come visit us, and she had some kind of a machine like that.
It was not a time machine, but what she said she could do was she could like what she did for me was I had a ring with an opal in it, and she put the opal on this machine and did this, and she asked the actual stone in my ring questions.
Like, where did you come from?
And have you ever, it was just, it was very interesting.
I just finished my vacation traveling through Nevada.
The route from California took me to Beatty, Totopawa, Rachel, and finally, Las Vegas.
Rachel, founded in 1978, may be the UFO center of the world.
What is amazing about Rachel is how isolated it is, population about 100.
But it's gained so much notoriety.
I understand from the locals, Rachel just got power lines two or three years ago.
One local author spent probably, Glenn Campbell, I'll bet, three hours with me talking about his book, showed me some very interesting videos of UFOs near Rachel.
Also, while at the little Ailey Inn, several people called from Europe making travel plans to the area.
My question is this.
Have you or will you ever consider doing a live show from Rachel, Nevada?
Bill and Fairfield near Travis Air Force Base?
No, I don't think so.
I watched Larry King do that, and I thought it looked kind of silly.
He had a desk set up in the middle of the desert, right out there near Rachel, and cameras and lights.
And, you know, the desert during the day gets nice and warm, as I told somebody a little while ago, maybe up to 70 during the day.
But at night, it gets cold.
And it was getting to be nighttime, dark.
And Larry was doing a show on UFOs.
And he just sat out there at this desk, and you could see that everybody was beginning to shiver.
And they never did really see anything.
They had a show.
But I can't see any reason to go out there and shiver in the desert.
The first radio station that I ever really worked at was a little FM station up on top of a mountain in New Jersey.
And during the winter, the mountain was covered with snow and ice.
So you could drive partway up and you had to walk the rest of the way up.
And it was a religious FM station.
So all I got to do was read the news every hour.
And the man who ran it was fanatical.
And he didn't like you getting too close to the microphone.
And in order to teach you not to get too close, if he came into the studio and saw you close to the mic, he would sneak up behind you and yank the chair out for Monday while you were on the air reading the news.
And so the audience would hear you.
And that would be you going on your butt.
And he did that to me one time too many, and I quit.
And that was my first job.
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When did your career take the twist that it has now into the macabre or the fringes talking with the kind of guests that you talk with now?
Well, I've been doing this program for about 13 years, and I did quite a bit of that sporadically for many years, and then sort of migrated more toward it as I became more disgusted with politics.
And that's been in about the last three or four years.
unidentified
Now, without being disrespectful to your guests, one of the questions that I have as I listen to your show is why don't you ask some of the harder questions?
Well, when you had this gentleman named Steve on who was talking about time travel, I think that, or I should say that my assumption is, and I think the assumption of most of the public and the physicists, is that this doesn't happen, it's not going to happen, and it would happen probably time travelers from the future that have come to the past, but certainly not somebody creating a device at this point that's taking them to the future.
What grilling, hotbed question would you have asked designed to draw the absolute truth from him?
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I would have said on a prearranged date, I would want myself, two other scientists, and maybe another impartial observer to come out and see you demonstrate your device.
And then I would come back to the listening audience and say, this is what I saw, or this is what I didn't see.
In other words, I wasn't willing to travel to where he was and go through all that.
So instead, I let him tell your story and his story, and then you can make your own conclusions.
But regarding the claims made by every guest I have on my show, I can't get personally involved and test each one of them.
I just can't do it.
unidentified
But at the same time that you give him a forum to talk to, and you did listen to him, and you were very fair to him, some of the callers that call, such as the last couple of callers, you almost listen to them in a way that you've got a smile on your face, and you know that you in the audience are saying, this guy is way out.
I kind of looked past, thank you, his halting manner of speech and instead listened to the content, as obviously a lot of the audience did.
And again, I say because somebody is not a polished speaker, doesn't mean the content of what they're saying may not have some serious amount of value.
And if you listened carefully to the first hour of his technical explanation, it made sense.
Now, I'm not saying that it works, and he has offered me no hard or concrete proof that it works.
However, the technical explanation that he offered really was quite good with regard to current knowledge about our brains, for example.
Hey, I'm still working on my Way Talking Gyro, or WTG.
Yeah.
And I think my specs are officially done and ready for construction, but I'm probably going to need a retired machinist or something that has a lot of junk to work with.
And if your audience could somehow supply me with some old top-notch bowling balls of the same weight and some other things, including some compressed lightweight fiberglass epoxy rods and a couple of motorcycle engines, I could be on my way.
I'm also working on an exploding tornado propulsion unit, or better known as ETPU.
Well, heaven knows what you're going to need for that, so you better concentrate on the first item, I guess.
Your weight-throwing gyros.
And then you can move on to tornadoes.
Tornadoes have always fascinated me.
Wouldn't it be cool if there was actually a way to blow them up in effect?
You'd have tornado hunters.
Fire one.
Yes, sir.
We'll be right back.
This is CBC.
All right, I wonder if that young lady who called a while ago who asked about getting blown away was perhaps being prophetic.
The wind is beginning to pick up here in my part of the desert.
It's calling for rain tomorrow, and I suspect this is probably a front coming through ahead of that, but that's just my guess.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Got a what if for you?
All right.
Okay.
What if the news media started reporting that a young woman in her mid-20s had been observed performing limited miracles or anomalies, such as self-levitation or causing a bright glow to appear about her body or make plants grow so quickly that you could see it with the naked eye?
Or maybe she speaks in Latin, but anyone who listens to her will understand exactly what you're saying.
Well, I'm wondering if the callers would believe the message that she would deliver because she could do these things or if they would ignore her, or would it matter where she came from?
Like if she was from the Middle East, would they pay more attention?
And my second thing was, you were talking earlier about dreams earlier.
Had one yesterday relating to the equipment.
I had another earthquake dream again.
And this one, this time, it was like I was staying with some people and they were talking about some hydrological maps.
And this guy was arguing with them.
And I take it it was like during a dry period.
And the guy kept saying, he said, our maps are showing the water levels are changing along the Mississippi River.
And we just now find a first-time unexplained fault that we can't account for.
And the maps don't show it.
And then in the second dream, after I woke up, I went back to sleep again 10 minutes later and picked up, I guess, where I'd left off and had fall several places where a 6.7 earthquake hit in the midwest of the south part of the United States.
There are many people reporting dreams just like yours, and many of them already tonight, make of it what you will.
There has been earthquake activity in the last several hours, in the west, in Colorado, some here in my little valley, and two fairly recent quakes in the last several hours in Northern California, so near Eureka.
So activity is beginning to warm up, and I would suspect we'll see something of some significance in the next few days.
The President's inaugural address would strike me as another that would be worth some investigation, I would think.
unidentified
That would be a good one.
I was just hoping you might have, because he's gotten a lot of new affiliates since the last time he was on, so a lot of people haven't gotten to hear him.
Well, you know, Einstein's theory that energy is, find energy is, the equation is E equals Mc squared, which is 186,300 miles a second times 186,300 miles an hour.
And any time mass is traveling at the speed of light, it becomes infinite.
Right.
And that way, that there's no way that they can measure it, so there's nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
I wrote a letter to him and get his catalog and stuff.
I have a project that I have been working on sometime.
It's still on paper.
I have not even started to build a model.
And I call it my dream recorder.
And what I want to do is to pick up brain waves in the rapid eye movement period of sleep and process them into digital information and then turn around and process that into so I can put it on a computer screen.
So did I. And well, the man was asking what would happen to somebody who could move things or levitate things.
And I think Phenomena, the movie, answered that very precisely.
Don't you?
unidentified
Well, and I thought the most surprising and the most encouraging thing about Phenomena is you had the impression at first that it was coming from the outside.
And I think the fact that it came from within was the redemption of man and it was speaking to the truth of the human spirit.
And I'm not sure if you or your folks are aware of this, but I thought that it would be kind of a neat thing.
As compared to the chat rooms on the internet, there is a place called The Palace.
Are you familiar with that?
No.
The Palace actually has a graphical interface so that there are rooms and there's chess rooms and conference rooms.
And what you do is you have an icon that represents everybody that's there.
And so in real time, you can see these Icons move around, and people can create their own icons.
And with the software that they provide, once you're registered, you can even create your own rooms in your own palace.
And if there was an Art Bail palace, I think that for the exchange of information, I'll tell you what, it beats the heck out of just the line-by-line-by-line reading that you see in the general chat room.
And I know a lot of people probably have ideas, and you say, oh, yeah, okay, and then just let it go.
But if you'd have the people that know your webpage, the people that put it together for you, look at the palace, I think that you would truly be amazed.
And I think that it would create a lot of things.
Well, how do I do that?
I said, well, if you go into your search engine and you put in the palace, you're going to get it to come up.
It allows you to download the palace over the Internet, and then you can go in as a guest to try it out.
But assuming I register my software, then I could be a king in my palace.
unidentified
Well, what they do is they provide you with software to be either a client or a server.
If you decide to be a server, they tell you what you need to do to set up your own palace, and then it's interlinked with the main palace, which is called the Palace, the Palace Com.
But I think it's no different than a chat room, but the thing that's amazing about it is you have props, you have what they call an avatar, where you can either put your picture out there or you can create some kind of creature, and then you can be in a chess room, and you can play chess with somebody.
I wanted to ask you a question about the Hailbop comment, and I wanted to ask a question about that supposedly fraudulent picture.
Okay.
Do you think it's possible that during the process of that original picture being taken, that there was a sequence of pictures being taken, and that there's also a possibility that in one of those sequences there would have been another bright light adjacent to anything is possible.
So if you're suggesting something zoomed in and zoomed out, I guess you could theorize anything you wanted, but that, you know.
unidentified
I've been sticking pretty close to everything that you've been talking about so far and how the things have expanded.
It just so happens that I was listening the night of the 14th, and then I ordered the tapes from you and have the original set of tapes, and I've recorded a lot of the information about it.
And I noticed that a lot of times during the process that there were people that would look for the companion, and sometimes it would be there, and sometimes it wouldn't be there.
And so I was thinking that, do you think there's at all a possibility that the individuals connected with all this information are being genuine and it's not a fraud, and yet it appears to be presented that way.
Well, I'm talking about, like, say for instance, Mr. Brown has two or three hours worth of conversation with whoever that individual was that was supposed to have given him the pictures.
And so even when we listen to your programs, there can be hours and hours and hours of conversation that we would want to talk about, but you can only fit so much information in there.
I choose to think that Courtney Brown was very forthcoming and very honest about his description on the 14th.
And I also choose to think that perhaps sometime in his life he had an experience where he had a bad experience where he thought it was necessary from now on that if anything like this comes up, I'm going to take the responsibility.
Perhaps he had a bad thing happen to him like you had happened to you in your youth when you had the chair pulled out from underneath of you.
So you're not so inclined to believe in religious things.
They have opened a bulletin board on my webpage, a bulletin board service.
Now, the mailing list is no more.
We now have a bulletin board.
It is now officially open.
And let me read you some of the topics.
Coast-to-coast AM topics.
Dreamland guests.
Linda Moulton Howe, Lisa's Odds and Ends, whoever Lisa is, oh my God, whatever that is, politics, the quickening, the registry of dreams, ooh, cool, truth or trash, wildcard line, first-time caller Line, message board news, and the funny bone.
All of those have message threads in them, and you can go up there and read them.
So we now have an official bulletin board online on the webpage, www.artbell.com.
Cool.
I just found it myself.
I knew it was coming, but I didn't know when it would officially be there.
Yes, and I'm close to where the Northbridge quake took place.
And what I'm going to tell you and your listeners is absolute truth.
I worked with the Department of Interior for many years.
There is no remote viewing.
By God, if we had had it, we certainly would have done better than just predicting the Whittier, the Nicaraguan, the Mexico City, and the Prisco quake.
I don't believe a thing about this guy, Courtney, whoever he is, but we literally did the hard work.
We did this with a computer, with astrology, we did it with dream sensory work that was not ever programmed.
It was true.
And I don't know who you're trying to bamboozle there, but this was hard work well done.
It can be proven.
And I will give you my number off the air to have you call me, and I will prove this to you.
We worked with, and the only problem was the branch that we worked with was taken over by the Air Force when George Bush became the president.
This is absolute truth, and I'm on the level.
We did this work, and the Whittier quake was predicted exactly where and the magnitude.
The San Francisco baseball quake, as we saw it, was predicted.
Well, first of all, I'd like to offer congratulations to the X-Files for sweeping the Golden Globe Awards for sci-fi for best drama, which is quite an accomplishment.
There are a couple of complications to having him back on, though.
unidentified
Okay.
Because he's very fascinating to listen to.
Oh, yes.
And the last thing is I wanted to ask you, see if you knew, or maybe you could ask Richard Oglin, was you know how planets rotate around from like east to west around a star or a sun?
Is it possible for a planet to rotate from north to south?
Yeah, I would think a planet could be in rotation with respect in any direction.
Could be in orbit, any sort of orbit.
Wildcard line, if that's the question, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I have a question to ask.
I tried to call you the other night when you had Dreamland on to see if I could get an answer, and perhaps maybe someone in the listening audience or yourself might have an answer to this.
I used to live in a haunted house, and various things took place in the house, but the most startling thing was one night the entire house, except for the front poyer, the kitchen, and the bathroom, filled up with fog.
The fog was about four feet from the floor, and that's as far up as it went.
I live about a mile and a half from the ocean, so I opened up all the doors and windows.
The house faced west, so I always have a breeze.
The fog did not move.
It sat there for four hours.
I have yet to be able to find out what significance this had and how it was related.
We even crawled under the house to verify that there was no fog under the house.
The house was about three and a half feet off the ground with hardwood floors.
And there was no fog under the house either.
And I've been told that it is a described type of haunting scenario, but I haven't been able to find out what it is.
I lived there for 18 years and became very accustomed to it.
There was an old man that I saw on several occasions walking around in the house, and what I would hear late at night, and everyone that stayed in the house visiting or living there heard it as well, was old radio stations.
The thing that's fascinating is they call it Lucifer in the book, which was pretty interesting.
I also sent you another email on the Mount Graham, the telescope.
Yes.
And how I said that I feel that they are going to align themselves up with the scientists and say that, yes, it is evolution, and that we can see it also and try to deceive the church or the whole church.
Once again, here I am, top of the morning, everybody.
I'll tell you an interesting phenomenon about talk radio.
If you get a caller who obviously is a little disconnected, you know, not quite a fullback and all that, and you cut them short, people will email you and fax you and say, how can you be so rude to that person?
If, on the other hand, you let them just ramble on, just to see if it really is going to go anywhere, people will send you email and vaxes saying, how can you let that psychotic ramble on like that?
It has to come from the person expressing the emotions and the feelings.
unidentified
Okay, I understand.
And if you were having, last question, if you were having an out-of-body experience and for some reason your body got jarred or awakened, could you lose your soul or consciousness or whatever's out there?
Can you ask him if he's going to do a book or a transcript or some kind of a technical thing so we can self-teach ourselves or learn more about remote viewing?
Would that be possible for you to remember that or write that down?
It would appear that your First Amendment privilege remains intact.
It would appear so.
So it has not been invalidated?
unidentified
It would appear so.
It would appear so.
And everything is actually a great hallucination that they have created.
You see, they've given everyone who is subject to the 14th Amendment and the federal government of the United States, which is only supposed to have a 10-mile jurisdiction.
Now, here's proof for you, Art.
If you go into a courtroom for, say, a violation of not wearing a seatbelt, and you see the American flag up behind the judge.
But what I was wanting to talk about was there was a caller last hour, I believe, a woman, who was asking you about a guest that you had on before.
And she seemed to be implying that this guest was one of those conspiracy theorists, I believe, and he does some sort of interpretation into political speeches.
Oh, well, are you one of the types of people that think that there's this one-world conspiracy thing going on and it's threatening our Bill of Rights and stuff like that?
If you don't cooperate, then we are going to re-educate you, and if we can't re-educate you, then we're going to put you in chambers and liquidate you.
They'd have guests in, and I was the only one who called in that offered up any dissent.
And they were just totally shocked, and every caller from that point on responded to me.
I even listened to the station the next morning where they had a completely different host, and they were talking about me, like a group of just wackos that...
Economic change will precede political change, and eventually, eventually, there is going to be probably a one-world order of some sort or another.
Whether it'll come in our lifetimes or not, I don't know.
unidentified
Sure.
That may be the case.
And there's nothing to fear there for Christ's sakes.
Look at the history of the world.
We've been at war with one another since day one.
And now that there's this big alliance, you know, the United Nations and NATO and so on and so forth, these nuts try to find something threatening in that.
And it's just ludicrous.
Do you want us to be in a perpetual state of war?
That's absurd.
And now that the countries are coming together and forming alliances, people got to find something threatening in that.
It's just bizarre.
And beyond that, there's this sort of preoccupation and delight that they receive from suggesting that these things possibly exist as if they would ever be able to prove it and as if it's a threat to them and the freedoms that we enjoy here in the United States, which is totally absurd.
And it's just an attempt to pass those on to other countries that that right now are, you know, all right, sir.
Well, it turned out the abductors were actually Air Force guys dressed up as aliens, and then they were abducted by another being that no one could figure out what it was.
Huh.
Okay, the third thing, the Raiders coach, do you have any idea who it will be who you'd like to see?
But Art, there was a story here in the Northern California paper, San Jose Mercury, that was similar to yours.
They broadcast today on our local ABC affiliate yesterday on our news broadcast, a story based on the U.S. forestry that there was a mountain lion problem by Sunset Beach.
Well, because we have somebody who will not give us access to either the name of, in other words, we are pursuing what leads we have, but we're kind of stopped.
What I would suggest to you is to read the statement by Courtney Brown.
It's on my webpage, and without being given access to the additional physical evidence, and he will not allow that, we can't follow.
unidentified
Yeah, I understand.
But, you know, it just seems to me that it's a third cut.
I mean, Courtney Brown came off as a professor at a college.
When you give up being king of the talk show, Circuit, and become involved in this New World Order, do you have an opening for a longtime listener as a member of your cabinet?
You've got to be absolutely ruthless, ready to subject the average citizen to horrible injustices at a moment's notice, to remove their civil rights and laugh as you do it, to put them in camps and re-educate them when they will not bow to our orders.
And I don't know, it just seems a little Strange that this is the first evidence mentioned when you know you have a guest that has mentioned this many, many times.