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Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from January 1st, 1997.
art bell
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, where it is basically dry.
I bid you all good evening, good morning, as the case may be across all these many time zones stretching from the Hawaiian and Peachton Island chains eastward across this great land to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands of Puerto Rico in South America.
Worldwide on the internet, this is Coast Coast AM.
top of the morning everybody all night radio at its best Great to be here.
I'm Mark Bell.
Not a lot to talk about, a lot of news, and so we're going to have open lines is what we're going to do tonight.
It is the last hour of the first day of the new year on the West Coast.
unidentified
Many of you let the holidays here.
art bell
And I must say, it is nice.
It's always nice, and I like to see the holidays come.
I like Christmas.
It is my favorite.
But I'm always glad to see it go, too.
I don't know about you, but I'm always glad to see it go and to kind of get back to normal.
Frankly, a lot of people, between actually a time prior to Christmas and right now, they don't do anything.
Commerce, with the exception of the retail business, stops.
People slow down.
They stop doing things as they normally do.
And that's fine, but I'm always glad when it's over.
I don't know about you.
Trouble, as usual, in the Middle East.
Hebron is supposed to be turned over to the Palestinians, but an Israeli soldier, not wild and warm and fuzzy about that idea, wanting to spoil the peace process, opened fire on a group of Palestinians at a market, wounded six, one critically.
It is, of course, a case of two fundamentalist religious groups claiming the same land.
Same old story.
It's been going on since long before we walked upon the earth.
In Oregon, Washington, and California, the heavens have opened and they haven't stopped.
Some coastal areas indeed got winds of 100 miles an hour.
The rain seems never ending.
Rivers are still rising.
Many of them will peak during my program tonight.
Mudslides, sinkholes, you name it, people are sandbagging.
It is a mess.
From Scott, hi art.
Happy New Year.
Two days ago, when one of your callers said the rain and the weather in the Pacific Northwest was nothing unusual, I wanted to reach through the radio and shake them silly.
I've lived in Oregon all my 38 years, and I tell you, this is not normal.
In a normal year, Portland will get about 37 inches of rain.
In 1996, we got about 64 inches of rain.
The snowpack is double what it ought to be, and we are again faced with severe flooding.
I remember a Ray Bradbury book about humans that settled on another planet.
The weather was always the same.
Constant rain.
It never stopped.
After a few years, the space colonists began to go insane due to the incessant rain.
Some even committed suicide.
How did they do it?
They laid down, tipped their heads back, and let the rain drown them.
It's not that bad here, yet.
Scott.
We might talk a little bit about marijuana.
Dear Mr. Bell, I just read that the Clinton administration is planning to sanction doctors who prescribe marijuana for medical use, medicinal use.
I was shocked to read it.
By the way, Art, I'm not a militia kind type.
I just believe in states' rights.
It's an outrage.
Did not the citizens of California and Arizona speak when they voted to allow the use of marijuana?
How dare the federal government step in and attempt to negate what the citizens of these states have voted to allow?
Art, I would look forward to hearing your opinion on this topic during tonight's show.
That's Jeff.
I completely agree, Jeff, on two scores.
One, with regard to states' rights.
People of Arizona and California did speak.
The federal government is trying to rationalize they didn't know what they were saying.
They didn't know what they were thinking.
And they could not possibly have known what They were voting for that's one angle.
So, the feds are going to move in and they are going to do what the state authorities apparently are not going to do, and that is enforce the marijuana laws strictly, and not just sanction but take away the licenses of any doctor who would dare prescribe marijuana.
But that's just one angle.
The other is it has long since been time that the U.S. reshape its attitude, you know, about marijuana in general and begin to separate it from the other hard drugs.
That has been my position for many years.
And it seems to me the federal government had an opportunity here to either do nothing or to give states an opportunity, one by one, to decide if it was time for a change.
But the federal government obviously is not going to do that, and they're taking the exact opposite tact.
Seven more hostages released in Lima, Peru.
The captives walked out of the besieged Japanese ambassador's residence with Red Cross reps.
The release leaves 74 in captivity.
Americans welcomed 1997 with parades, football games, but the gambling capital of Las Vegas brought in the new year with a bang, literally not to be outdone by the street party, featuring about a half million in Times Square.
The celebration in the Nevada desert climaxed with the Hacienda Hotel being demolished in an explosion.
Oh, it was great.
It almost looked like Independence Day.
unidentified
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
art bell
And then a slow sort of reaction and a crumbling.
A dear art, first of all, let me say Happy New Year.
Since Madman Markham wants to be the very first to step through his gateway, the next time you talk to him, would you ask him for me if he has any problems with me going through second?
I figure if he goes to the future, the past, or another dimension, there'd be an excellent opportunity for me to spread the word.
That is from Pastor Bradley.
And it is just about time to have Madman back live for an update.
Those of you who had joined the show late last night finally got an opportunity to hear the Madman Markham story.
So with me saying this, obviously, we are live this night.
This is not a repeat.
And assuming that the floods don't get our network, which is in Medford and is under siege right now, we will continue to be live throughout the night tonight.
I think.
Hey, Art, I think I've got it figured out.
Regarding Hail Bop, Hail Mary and the possibility of an alien invasion, it's got to be Super Bowl Sunday when every man around the world is totally defenseless and watching football.
If my team is losing, well, I'll be in the right frame of mind to fight anyway, should it become necessary.
That's Bill in Waterlogged Portland.
And I've got a few other items here.
Oh, by the way, the great IRC war the other night was victorious.
And prior to my going off the air at about 3.15, the chat room was happily reclaimed by the hordes of soldiers who were sent to do it.
So we thank you.
I don't know, you get that many people good at hacking and doing what has to be done on a mission of mercy and righteousness, and inevitably they triumph and they did.
So my thanks to all who helped out.
Other than that, I thought we would do the dangerous thing that we do on this show most frequently, and that is leave it up to you.
Anything you want to talk about is fair game.
With respect to an update on Hailbop, expect it this coming Sunday with Whitley Streeber, my guest on Dreamland.
So we will no doubt broach that subject.
In the meantime, in a moment, open line.
And so, off to the land of post-holiday, unscreened, a very dangerous open lines.
We'll just punch it and do it, as usual.
And we'll see what's out there.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi there, Art.
This is Jeff from Fort Wayne.
Hi, Jeff.
I got something that I don't think I've ever heard you guys talk about before.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
I'm kind of curious, and I've done a little checking up on it, but I can't seem to find the answer.
How is it that the men of the old biblical times, like Jacob and David and Stephen, how come they can have more than one wife, and today it's kind of like a no-no, you can't do that?
Why Is it why can they have like three, four wives and they don't ever say that it was wrong in the Bible?
I don't know.
It just kind of threw me for a loop when I, because I, you know.
art bell
I don't have the answer.
unidentified
I'd like to see if I could find that out, if you could throw that out there to your audience.
art bell
I, I, frankly, have always wondered about preamble to the Constitution, where it talks about your happiness and stuff, pursuit of happiness, that sort of thing.
Wouldn't that seem to guarantee, I mean, what if two or three wives made you happy?
unidentified
Yeah, that's strange.
Because, you know, one of the Ten Commandments says, you know, thou shalt not commit adultery.
Well, isn't that adultery, having more than one wife?
art bell
Well, no, if it's legal to have more than one wife, then obviously it is not adultery.
However, if you had four wives and you cheated on them, think about that.
unidentified
Is this true?
art bell
So I'm not exactly sure what the answer to your question really is.
I mean, really, it was closer to the time of the, you know, the walking of Jesus on earth, and you would think the rules about wives, if it comes from God, would have been even more clearly defined then rather than now.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know what?
I don't know the answer to your question.
unidentified
Well, you know, I didn't expect you to come up with an answer.
I was just kind of curious, but you've got a lot of listeners out there.
Maybe they can help me out here because, I mean, I like to think that I'm a religious person, but one of my friends asked me this question, and I didn't know what to tell him.
art bell
I didn't have the answer.
Well, I don't either.
Let's see what the audience says.
unidentified
All right, thanks a lot, Art.
art bell
You bet.
Sure.
We'll throw that one out.
Why would it be the ancients had multiple wives and it was okay?
But now we can't.
I could understand a common sense explanation that one woman is clearly difficult enough and trying to balance two or three or four in one household at all.
None.
So I'm not exactly sure.
Not really sure what the answer to this is.
I suppose society, as represented by our government, might feel that I don't know.
I don't know.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hi.
This is Dana in Tennessee.
art bell
Welcome.
unidentified
Friday night, your ten called and was talking about her new cat.
art bell
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
You know, that she got for Christmas and how she was having problems with the other cats, you know, behavior towards a new one.
And asked for advice, and I thought maybe I'd have some for her.
I'm sure she probably listens every night, and the advice would help you with Andy, too.
All right.
Well, you know, cats are very territorial, and you are part of their territory.
And so the thing, you know, the cats are, you know, the new cat is invaded the territory.
You just need to spend a little extra time showing the cat you already had in the household that you really care about.
If it's across the room just sitting there, get up and walk over to the cat and pick it up and give it a hug.
Something like that.
It makes a difference.
I mean, I've got 12.
art bell
Now, I like the tough love approach.
In other words, when the other cats begin to gang up on the new cat, which they inevitably do, one by one, you walk to the old cats and you step on their tails.
And they get right in line, you know?
unidentified
Oh, no, that's so.
But no, it really, I mean, you know, my oldest cat is 14 years old, and I've got my youngest one is four months old, and everything in between.
And I've been through this a bunch, and they just feel, they feel left out.
Like, the new cat, you know, always gets a little more attention, it seems like.
And they feel very, they're jealous.
And if you just go ahead and reinforce that you still really care about the first cat, it will eventually maybe not be best buddies with the new one, but it will accept the fact that, oh, this cat's here, too.
And Abby will quit biting and scratching you, and maybe Ten's gray cat will quit.
art bell
It's Abby's attitude.
Abby is never going to stop doing that.
unidentified
No.
art bell
i don't know i i appreciate the advice but i'm telling you right now he has Comet is really gentle.
Comet has long, sharp back claws.
But Comet intentionally does not use them.
Abby, on the other hand, who is now a middle-aged cat with long claws, knows darn well how to launch himself off your lap using full claw power and leaving an indentation identical to all of his claws digging in at once.
He knows exactly what he's doing, exactly what he's doing.
Wild Card line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Mr. Bill, this is War Dancer out here in Portland, Oregon, surviving the flood.
art bell
How's it going?
unidentified
It's going out here.
I feel sorry for all the people who've lived here all their lives, and now all the dumb Californians decide to come up here and denude our soil and whatnot and change our ecology.
art bell
Uh-oh.
unidentified
So that's what it is.
art bell
So you're blaming it on the Californians.
unidentified
Out-of-staters.
art bell
Those who have bought houses, chopped down the trees that normally would have absorbed all of this.
unidentified
Exactly.
Ecology 101.
Very simple.
And next year, what's going to happen when Hailbop's residue flies through?
art bell
Hailbop's residue.
Now it's the first one I've heard about that.
Hailbops residue.
unidentified
Well, the chondritic material, it'll be, well, if Hallie's comet left our meteor shower that we catch in August, the Perseus, I guess, what's Hailbop going to leave it?
art bell
If I knew, I wouldn't be able to say.
unidentified
Okay, well, maybe we'll get a good astronomer out there who knows the answer.
art bell
You will, maybe.
unidentified
Hey, and keep it up, Bart, and everybody that calls behind me, stick to scary stuff.
art bell
See you later, sir.
unidentified
Goodbye.
art bell
All right.
We're going to pause here at the bottom of the hour.
You know, I really don't know the answer to that question about wives.
unidentified
How come they could then, and we can't now?
anybody out there have any idea at all the the the the
the the the the the the the
the the the the You're listening to Artfell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 1st, 1997.
art bell
Once again, here I am from our friends at KIDO in Boise, Idaho.
Small stream flood warning continues in west central Idaho and eastern Oregon.
The National Weather Service in Boise has extended a small stream warning through noon mountain time for west central Idaho and eastern Oregon.
Small streams continue over their banks in many parts of west central Idaho and eastern Oregon due to continuing rains and melting snow.
Several roads have been closed by water or by mud and rock slides in Idaho.
State Highway 21 from milepost 21 near Robey Creek to milepost 34 near Morris Creek have been closed to all but emergency vehicles.
Several hundred feet of US-95 were washed out about nine miles north of Council.
In eastern Oregon, Highway 86 was closed between halfway and Oxbow.
Rains will continue in these areas, heavy at times, through the night and tomorrow morning.
Do not attempt to cross flooded streams or roads.
Persons living near small streams should monitor water levels and be prepared to move to higher ground.
It's not good.
Art Governor Miller is declaring an emergency in Carson City, Douglas, Story, and Walshaw counties.
The Truckee River is going to crest at 17 feet.
The Carson River at 14, both far beyond previous records.
This is a 100-year flood.
Been here a long time now, never seen it this bad.
Last week, Carson City had all its trees flattened by snow.
unidentified
Still looks like a war zone here.
art bell
Now we're getting washed away.
Roads in all directions in northern Nevada are closed from mudslides, washed out bridges, or simply underwater.
So there you have it.
It's awful up there.
A lot of people are actually sandbagging.
And we may open a line for people in that area shortly and find out how it's going, how they're doing, whether you're holding up, whether you think it's going to get worse before it gets better, or whether this is going to be the night of terror tonight.
A lot of the rivers, I believe, are going to crest during the time we are on the air this night.
unidentified
A lot of rivers, I believe, are going to be a little bit more.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
This was really quick.
It only rang a couple times.
art bell
That's the way it can be.
unidentified
This is Brett calling from Ohio.
Yes, sir.
And I, gosh, I almost forgot what I wanted to talk to you about.
First thing I wanted to talk to you about was a guy on a short wave program.
I heard a couple weeks ago, or a couple nights ago, said that there is a part of the Bible that he believes refers to Hailpop that will be bringing a level of higher consciousness to all people on this planet.
And his name is Stuart Best, and I think he'd be a real good guest to have on your show.
art bell
Maybe he means adrenaline.
When that sucker starts to get big boys, she'll be flowing.
unidentified
No, I really don't think that's what he means.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
But let's see.
What else?
What else was it?
art bell
I don't know.
unidentified
I wanted to talk.
art bell
Maybe you were going to tell us why we're not allowed to have multiple wives.
unidentified
That's one subject I don't even want to touch.
Okay.
Oh, I know what I wanted to talk to you about was that our Ohio State Buckeyes won the Rose Bowl today for the first time in 23 years.
And everybody in Ohio here is really proud of them.
art bell
Congratulations.
unidentified
Thanks, Art.
art bell
Take care, my friend.
I don't follow college football.
I don't know why.
I really don't know why.
Why would that be?
I really like football, but I like NFL football.
And college football is just not the same.
And I know there are a lot of people out there who feel that way about college football with regard to the NFL.
They don't like the NFL at all.
To them, real football is the college stuff.
Well, to me, real football is the NFL stuff.
The real bone-crunching realities occur right there, the NFL.
But, you know, that's a Ford Chevy IBM-Mac argument.
And I'm being generous when I throw IBM and Mac into it.
Wildguard Line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi there.
I got something for Art to listen to.
art bell
This is Art.
unidentified
Oh, good.
Okay, now, I'm going to tune it in right here.
I've been listening to this.
My name is Waldron from Ukayo, California.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I was driving along a few nights ago, and I heard this tape.
And it's counting.
And it was counting about five days in.
Now it's counting.
It says it's almost about, oh, six and a half hours, which means.
art bell
I would say you picked it up on 9.40 a.m., right?
unidentified
Let's see.
It is actually a little more than that.
Yeah, about 9.60.
art bell
Yeah, 9.40, actually.
unidentified
What is that, anyway?
art bell
I'm going to make a guess.
I know that it's been there, and I think it's a countdown to a new format.
It's a dramatic way to call attention to a change in a radio station format.
That's only a guess.
unidentified
Huh.
I could let you listen to it for a second if you'd like.
art bell
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
I don't need to do it.
I know.
unidentified
I called three of my friends who are pretty smart.
I mean, I'm six feet six.
I've been around for a while.
And we've never heard anything like this.
We have no idea what it could be.
art bell
Well, that's what I'm going to lay my money on.
All right.
unidentified
Well, thanks, Art.
We're about ready to wash away here in California.
art bell
All right, I know.
How bad is it where you are?
unidentified
Oh, I'm in fine shape.
I've got creeks on both sides.
It's about two and a half feet down.
No problem.
There's a big floodplain beyond us.
I'm on a ranch.
But we never have floods here.
But boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.
art bell
I know.
unidentified
It's a 100-year flood and then some, huh?
art bell
All right, sir.
Thank you.
100, yeah.
And then some.
I think that's what it is.
I, too, have heard this.
The countdown going on on 940.
Well, I think it's probably a publicity stunt.
And a good one.
Because it gets everybody saying, what's that?
940.
It's 940.
I'm going, what is that?
And all you hear is a countdown.
Well, it's a good idea.
But that's just my guess.
They're counting down to a new format.
Or something considerably more spectacular.
Consider if that is what they're doing.
A publicity stunt.
And then at the end of their countdown, something really horrible happens.
Like a gigantic California earthquake right at the very end of their countdown.
How would they ever, ever, ever explain that?
Wonder if they thought of that possibility.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Art.
Hello.
Yeah, this is Les from St. Paul.
How you doing?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
Say, I got a little scenario.
I've been listening to your show for a while now, and I got this little scenario I thought would be okay.
I've heard, you know, through all the television shows that have been on in the last few years, all the science fiction stuff that's been on, and I'm kind of into that kind of stuff.
But how about this?
How about this scenario?
How about Gene Roddenberry, for instance, and a lot of other writers and stuff that are out there?
Could it possibly be that these people were kind of like preempting us a little bit for actually what is going to happen in this world?
art bell
You mean science fiction writers preparing us for what is coming?
unidentified
Yeah, to the extent of where, you know, letting us know, you know, the awakening, so to speak, that this really can happen and it is happening.
I mean, I firmly believe we've already been visited.
And, I mean, good grief, we're not the only planet out there that has life on it, you know.
And I just thought all these people that are writing all these great shows that are out there should be like letting the public know in their own way of what really is going to happen someday here.
I mean, I get a feeling with all the stuff that's happening in the world and everything that some of this stuff is really true.
And I decided to lay it on the public out there and just think about it, you know, the Area 51 and all the kind of stuff, you know, that...
art bell
And I think I really mean it.
If I had an alien armada of ships, like in Independence Day, capable of destroying entire cities, and I studied our planet for a while and watched our behavior, day to day, I'd put the mother saucers over the cities and I'd blow them to smithereens.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
Well, now that would be like they would actually be studying us for a while.
If, let's say, the companion, they call it.
I mean, what kind of a conclusion do you think they would come to?
Either total domination or they want our planet for some reason.
art bell
Well, I kind of like the way it was in Independence Day, thank you.
They didn't have any real bargaining they wanted to do.
The aliens didn't want to bargain with us.
They didn't even really want to enslave us.
They had no other motivation of a negotiation with us.
They simply wanted us to die.
And I thought that was the coolest part of the movie.
Had that movie been very realistic, we would have died.
They would have won.
And if I had written the script for that movie, I would not have departed into that silliness at Area 51 with the president and all the rest of it and the flying at the saucers.
You know, I suppose they had to do that, right?
So that we are victorious.
But in reality, any technology that far advanced would have continued doing exactly what they were doing.
Blowing things to smithereens.
I think that's probably the way I would have written that movie.
But then again, there has made hundreds of millions of dollars, and so who can complain?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, Art Bell.
Hello.
Now, I hear you talking about Independence Day, and I've probably missed it, but you have seen Mars Attack or just heard of it?
art bell
Only heard of it, sir.
unidentified
Yeah.
Really disappointed myself.
Really?
Has the consensus from your callers been positive?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I really wanted to see that movie, and I was so excited, but just boring.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Listen, out of a two-hour movie, there's about maybe 25 minutes of real fun, clever stuff.
But there's like whole scenes that just don't work, whole characters that just don't even belong there and don't mean anything to the plot.
art bell
Well, it sure is doing well in the box office.
unidentified
I know.
All right, one thing, though, sir.
This March, I know you're past your predictions, but I'll give you one off the record.
All right.
I don't know the date, but in March, the movie Private Parts with Howard Stern comes out.
It'll gross over $100 million.
art bell
Well.
Now, see, that's conjecture.
Not that it will come out, but how much it will gross.
unidentified
It's a prediction, though.
art bell
All right.
Well, I'm going to theater?
Private parts when I haven't even seen Mars Attacks?
unidentified
Well, I thought we're talking Howard Stern here.
I mean, you do like Howard, right?
art bell
Yeah, I do like Howard.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Howard's having a nice year.
art bell
All right, take care.
But there are very few movies that I will go to see in the box office.
And Howard's would not be at the top of my list.
As he said, I haven't even seen Mars Attacks yet.
Now, everybody I've talked to thought it was a riot.
Yes, particularly my little town getting blown up.
People in my town.
Thromp.
Incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, Art Bell.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
How are you tonight?
art bell
Oh, just fine.
unidentified
Well, this is Joe from Newburgh, Oregon.
art bell
Yes, Joe.
unidentified
And I had a couple things maybe everybody'd want to discuss and wanted to know what we might call the first decade of the 21st century.
The odds or the zips or the pre-teens?
art bell
You're right.
unidentified
You've got the 90s, the 80s, the 70s, 60s, 50s.
art bell
What do you call the first decade?
The odds?
That sounds awful.
unidentified
It does.
It sounds awful to me.
art bell
The zeros?
That sounds good.
unidentified
The zeros?
art bell
No, that's not good.
unidentified
I had another one here.
Should we celebrate the new beginning of the 21st century on December 31st, 1999, or December 31st, the year 2000?
art bell
I know.
There's going to be a big fight about that.
There is.
unidentified
Anyway, had a lot of rain up here.
art bell
That's what I've heard.
unidentified
And it's flooding all around me.
I'm doing well where I'm at, but I notice a lot of people are getting flooded out.
It's been sad.
art bell
Yes, a lot of people will be up very late tonight wondering about the rivers.
So we'll try and get reports as we can.
With regard to 2000, for me, all right, not technically, but for me, I'm going to celebrate it when the calendar says 2000.
And that may not be technically correct, but I don't care.
When it says 2000, it is time to celebrate.
Besides, who knows if I'll even make it to 2001?
If I do, I'll celebrate again.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, Art, it's Pat.
art bell
Hello, Pat.
unidentified
I'm from Reading.
art bell
Near the Reading Ripple.
unidentified
Yes, I'm right by the Reading Ripple, and this is the first time I've ever got through to you, and I had to call you and tell you why you guys can't have more than one wife.
art bell
Good, why?
unidentified
Well, Jesus said, out of the hardness of their hearts, Moses let them have more than one wife.
But it wasn't so from the beginning.
Because in the beginning, remember, Adam only had one wife.
And now you guys, because you're not hard-hearted, you don't get more than one wife.
And what else?
Oh, you know, I saw Fire in the Sky tonight, the first time?
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And I didn't like it.
I thought when the guys were on your program talking, it was much better.
art bell
Well, that was the real thing.
Fire in the Sky was the dramatic production.
unidentified
I know, and it wasn't that good.
art bell
Well, it's a little like, I mean, when you hear it on my show with Travis Walton and company, you're hearing the real thing.
Real life.
No question about it.
unidentified
It's reasonable.
You know, it sounded real and true.
art bell
Yeah, no, that's right.
It's like reading a book and then going to see a movie.
It's never the same.
unidentified
I really am enjoying talking to you because I hear you all the time.
art bell
You do, huh?
unidentified
I do, but you've caused me many a sleepless night.
art bell
Well, I have a lot of sleepless nights myself.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but you get paid for it.
art bell
Ha ha ha ha, that's right.
All right, thank you very much.
unidentified
Good talking to you.
art bell
care well there's plenty of There's plenty of hard-hearted people out there now.
More today, perhaps, than ever.
I don't know that that precisely explains why they were allowed then to have multiple wives, but we are not now.
unidentified
Just exactly whose law is that, anyway?
Hmm?
art bell
I think it's one of those very gray areas myself.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
This is Donald from KRV and Russell.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm just fine.
unidentified
Well, Art, I hadn't heard you talk about it tonight, and I might have a little startling news for you.
All right.
Well, I was listening at the Midnight news, we get the CBS news.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And what they were talking about was an asteroid belt that about 200 asteroids have broke out of.
And they're talking about them being on trajectories, different trajectories, and possibly coming toward Earth.
art bell
Hey, listen, can you hold on through the news?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
We have news coming up here at the top of the hour.
That's big news, so I need to hold you over.
unidentified
Okay?
art bell
Stay right there, please.
And this is for the people in all the flooded out areas.
unidentified
Moody River, more deadly than the vainest night.
Moody River, your muddy water took my baby's life.
art bell
Hey, Jenny, past the sandbags.
unidentified
Last Saturday evening, came to the old old tree.
Oh, my God.
It's at the time where you were.
After my update, right after the news break, I found a note addressed to me.
It read, Dear Love, I've done you wrong.
I must set you free.
No longer can I live with this hurt and this sin.
I just couldn't tell you.
I don't believe that it's gonna stay.
Why don't you ask it?
If it's gonna stay, John, you tell me what's going on.
Why don't you tell me who's on the phone?
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight's program originally aired January 1st, 1997.
It's great to be here.
art bell
I'm Art Bell, and we're doing anything you want to do all night long.
Open Law and Talk Radio.
Hey, Art, in addition to federal action taken to nullify the effect of medical marijuana initiatives, over the weekend Clinton also proposed all teenagers seeking their first driver's license have got to pass a drug test in order to qualify for it.
Clinton has instructed his minions to find a way to force this new policy on the 50 states.
And of course, they have a way to do that.
You just hold up highway funds.
That's the usual trick.
East of the Rockies with asteroid news, you're back on the air now.
Let's get this straight.
You said CBS, what, radio?
unidentified
Yeah, CBS radio.
We took a break.
Of course, we take a break every top of the hour, and this was at the midnight hour central time.
art bell
and they said some asteroids Okay, what they said was there's an asteroid belt out there.
unidentified
I don't know what the name of it was.
They said the name of it, but some asteroids had broke off out of this belt and were on different trajectories.
And they were around about Jupiter right now.
And some of these, they were saying, was a half a mile wide, and if impacted the Earth, would be the equivalent to a nuclear explosion.
art bell
Oh, yes.
Did they suggest that any of them were on a trajectory for Earth?
unidentified
Well, they talked like it, but they didn't just, they said possibly, is what I heard.
And I just wondered if any of the other colleagues out there had heard this.
It wasn't on them.
We just went to CBS News a minute ago and it wasn't on there.
art bell
Well, you know, in February, I believe it is, NBC is going to do a special called Asteroid.
Were you aware of that?
unidentified
No, I wasn't.
art bell
Now, I wonder what the timing for this would be.
unidentified
I don't know.
They were talking about them being in some kind of orbit right now.
And like I said, they said they were around Jupiter.
But also, the people, I think, that discovered this, these asteroids, are the ones that discovered those asteroids that hit Jupiter.
art bell
Oh, yes.
Yes, indeed.
All right, sir.
Very troubling.
I'm going to see if I can get some confirmation of that, all right?
unidentified
All right.
I sure do appreciate it.
And one more thing.
During the break, there was a man called me here in town.
He heard me on the radio with you.
And he was wanting to know when you was going to have that man on that was talking about colloidal silver.
I hadn't heard of that.
art bell
Well, we've done a number of shows on it, and we will have somebody on again, maybe Wayne Green, who knows about that.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
We'll see if we can get confirmation.
Anybody else hear that?
Asteroids?
Some sort of collision, new orbits?
New trajectories.
Uh-oh.
Anybody else hear anything?
A rock-slash-mudslide has closed totally.
Westbound Interstate 80 near the California-Nevada border.
Westbound Sacramento-bound I-80 is totally closed.
One lane of the eastbound roadway is closed.
One eastbound lane remains open.
Caltrans officials at the site, one and a half miles east of the Nevada state line in Nevada, say mud rocks and trees are covering both westbound lanes.
Boy, it's getting bad.
For a distance of about a half mile.
There's also two feet of water on the roadway.
Caltrans workers are assisting the Nevada Department of Transportation.
The cleanup estimated will take five to seven hours to complete.
Estimated reopening for westbound I-80 is early tomorrow morning sometime.
And Joyce, faxing from I don't know where, somebody called earlier and said, why art can we only have one wife?
when even many of the religious icons of our past, closer to the time Christ walked on earth, had more than one wife?
So why is there a rule today saying we can only have one?
Joyce simply wrote, ask Ramona, why?
That's all right.
And this art on plural marriage, about a third of Earth's believers accept it.
Muslims, for example, as ordained of God, as did the patriarchs of the Old Testament, under the limitations of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights, prohibiting Congress from interfering with the free exercise of religion, and the 14th Amendment prohibiting states likewise, the recent Freedom of Religious Act bigamy laws are void.
Well, you know, since this has been broached, I think that this person is probably right.
It is probably not constitutional to limit a person to one wife, or ladies, to, for that matter, one husband.
I'm trying to think of why it is legal or constitutional to do that, and I don't have a ready answer.
Didn't then for the caller and don't now.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
I'm Robert, listening to you on KOH in Fairfield, California.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, as far as your plural marriage question goes, I believe Congress made it illegal in the mid or late 1800s in order to deny Utah statehood.
art bell
Was that it?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Because of the Mormons.
unidentified
Correct.
Correct.
A similar trick was used by the cotton industry to get cannabis made illegal, but I'm not aware of the time frame of that.
art bell
Well, do you see any way that that is a constitutional law?
unidentified
Not at all.
art bell
Not at all.
So somebody could challenge it?
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
art bell
Somebody, for example, arrested for bigamy could challenge it.
unidentified
Yeah, I would assume so.
I mean, it is a federal law.
It was used by Congress, like I said, to it was used as a ploy.
When the Mormon Church announced the and quit using the system of plural marriage, it was within a couple of years after that that they were allowed to stay to and allowed to continue on with their religion.
They were actually the reason why they were there, and you might have somebody from Missouri check on this, but I believe up until 1976, it was legal to shoot Mormons on site in that state.
They were actually chasing them.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Gee, we didn't treat them very well at all, did we?
unidentified
Well, you know, we did it to the Indians, we did it to the Mexicans, we did it to everybody else, so what's the difference?
art bell
All right.
Well, I appreciate your input, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Thank you.
I still.
It's a hard question to answer.
It wasn't mine.
Somebody called me up right first call, and I just didn't have an answer.
I've never really understood this.
I mean, you think about it a little bit.
Why would it be constitutional to have a law that says that limits your freedom?
I really don't get that one.
unidentified
I really don't get that one.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Steve from South Dakota.
art bell
Hi, Steve.
unidentified
How was your New Year's?
art bell
Just excellent.
unidentified
Great.
I want you to hear me out on this.
Remember I had mentioned a while back, I think it was before Christmas, that I was into lunar work and I had ordered the maps from the USGS on the moon.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I had received a map of Nye County, Nevada, the lunar crater area, and you were teasing me about the glass structures and everything.
Yeah.
Well, did you ever get it in the mail?
No.
art bell
However, however.
All of my mail.
We opened mail for several hours today, and we have several more days of several hours' work to go.
unidentified
Well, I sort of hope you get it.
I thought that you might be interested in seeing it.
But before I sent this to you, I got to thinking of a little picture in my mind.
You are the king of talk radio, and I am sort of imagines you sitting on a throne and living in a Frank Lloyd glass concrete structure.
And then I thought of a little moral to the whole thing, and I thought to myself, people who live in glass houses should still thrones.
art bell
Oh, my.
No throne.
I am not the king of anything.
I just do a talk show.
I have wondered, though, what it would be like to be a king.
What do you think it would be like to be royalty?
Didn't I mention that on the air the other day?
I think I did.
To be royalty.
In other words, your entire self, your persona, what you are, what you will ever be, is what you were at birth.
Royal blood.
You're special.
You're above all others.
You're royalty.
Blue blood.
It's a concept most Americans simply can't grasp.
And I really can't.
Can you imagine that?
From birth, you're special.
People wait on you.
You have man and woman servants.
Your every wish is their command.
And you have done nothing to deserve this, other than to be born in a certain lucky jackpot genetic way.
I wonder what it's like.
I bet they lead miserable lives, huh?
Wouldn't that be your guess?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, yes, Art.
This is Thomas from Colorado.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes.
I'm calling in regard to two or three things.
First of all, I sent you a packet of information about it had my new book in there.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
The coming of the next millennium.
art bell
Oh, I've got it, yes.
unidentified
And yeah, I wanted to let your listeners know that it's out on the market now for $8.99, and they can call me at 5 p.m.
art bell
No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
No.
art bell
Can't give out the number.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
we have you on as a guest uh...
we would allow you to do that but under normal circumstances Okay.
unidentified
Well, let me go on then with some of the things that I felt very was very neat within your predictions,
and that is in 1997 someone called in saying that New York was thought to be bombed, and I also have those same feelings.
I looked, I got my information from the Bible, in fact, in Psalms.
If you coincide the yearly events due to some of the things that go on, I feel very strongly.
And yeah, it was the 96th caller, in fact, which is this year, 96.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
So they all line up.
art bell
All right.
Well, very interesting.
I will review your materials, and you never know, you might be guest material.
if you were a terrorist what target would you go after Unfortunately, we are now in the era of terrorism, and we are going to be hit.
We have been hit, and we will be hit again.
The question is, what would you hit?
For maximum terror.
That's what you're trying to create when terrorism, by its very nature tries to scare people.
And there are many, many, many targets of opportunity in the U.S. New York City?
Washington, D.C. What manner of bomb would you use?
Well, short of a nuclear device.
Frankly, I would think, and I'm sorry to say, and I'm not giving anybody any ideas, but a biological thing would be much worse, much more effective in a crowded metropolitan area.
There is no question about that.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
How you doing?
art bell
I'm doing.
unidentified
Who is this, Arbill?
art bell
I'm the only one here, sir.
it's gotta be me i'm calling regard That's number one.
unidentified
I'm calling in regards to so many people having more than one wife.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
The reason for that is it was going back as far as the bankers.
What happened was there was a lot of people, a lot of men had a whole bunch of wives and everything else, and they were going out and they were buying their houses individually and everything else, and they could afford.
What happened was they went out and they sent their wife out, and their wife brought the money back and everything else, and they bought number one house.
They sent another wife out, and they had several different families and everything else, and all the houses were completely paid for.
Well, the bankers did not like that.
So the bankers put a stop to it, and they said you can only have one wife because they're not.
art bell
So you're trying to tell us the bankers are what limit us to one wife?
unidentified
Yes, it's in the books.
It is in the books.
art bell
Absolutely horrible.
unidentified
Yes, it's in the books.
art bell
What right do the bankers have to branch our constitutional rights?
unidentified
They wanted us in debt for the rest of our life.
And that's what they did.
They put us in slavery.
And that is the real truth.
art bell
What I don't understand is how did multiple wives help pay off houses?
unidentified
Well, because, see, if I was married, if I had five wives, I could have five different families.
And each of the wives would go out there and purchase a house, and I could turn around and have each of the wives turn around and pay for this in cash.
art bell
Yeah, but you were required, particularly then, as opposed to now, to be the breadwinner.
You know, pay off the mortgage.
unidentified
But I could send my wives out and do it.
And that's what they were doing.
They were sending their wives out to work and everything else, and the man was staying home.
art bell
It just doesn't make sense.
I mean, those were the days when wives didn't work, though.
unidentified
It's in the history book.
All right, all right.
art bell
All right, thank you.
So the bankers, huh?
Well, we've heard it all now.
The bankers.
That one doesn't make sense.
I'm not saying it's not true.
It just doesn't make sense.
There might have been a dowry, I suppose.
But under most circumstances, the wives didn't work, and you'd have several mortgages to pay off.
So, from the banker's point of view, you would think they'd like it.
Unless there were too many defaults.
Because poor Harry's trying to pay off four mortgages.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Good evening, Art.
This is Michael in Los Angeles.
art bell
Hello, Michael.
unidentified
I have an answer for you about how the polygamy law can be constitutional.
Well, the Supreme Court interprets these issues, and suppose that you and I belong to a religion, and this religion insisted that we consume pounds of cocaine.
We'd say, oh, it's our religious right to consume all of this cocaine.
The Supreme Court applies a rule called the Specific Intent Rule.
They look at a law and they say, is the specific intent of this law to abridge your religious freedom?
In the case, there was a case in Florida called the Smith case.
A county specifically made a law that you could not murder chickens as part of these religious ceremonies.
the supreme court said that law is unconstitutional because the specific intent of the law was to prohibit this religious behavior.
But in other laws, say the law against drugs in general, that that law is not unconstitutional with respect to any of the laws.
art bell
Let's just remove the entire religious argument from this for a second and say that a man wants to have two wives.
For him, that's happiness.
That's what he wants.
Why, under the general tenets of freedom covered by many portions of the Bill of Rights, doesn't he have the right or shouldn't he have the right to have several wives?
unidentified
Oh, I don't know the answer, honestly, on that count.
art bell
Well, that is what we're trying to find out.
I appreciate your call and your stab at it.
And insofar as you said what you said, I'm sure you're correct.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
When it's alright, it's going on.
We've got to get right back to where we've got it from.
Love me and go, nothing is going.
We gotta get right back to where we started from Do you remember that?
The day it showed me when you first came my way.
I let no one could take your place.
And if you get hurt...
*music*
*music*
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight featuring a replay of Coost to Coost AM from January 1st, 1997.
art bell
Two interesting facts here.
One saying they finally have determined the frequency of the transmission from Hail Mary accompanying Hailbob.
and the frequency is nine forty on the a_m_ band Wonder what that could mean.
Oh, well, discard these until we can find out what they really mean.
And that particularly is being heard most strongly in the Central California area.
But I'm sure it means nothing.
And this, Art, the only reason for college football, especially the bowl games, is to figure out which individuals are going to end up in the NFL.
It's a great preview of upcoming stars in the NFL.
It's fun to try and guess who's going to make the next step to the next level.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
And east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hi, how are you?
art bell
I'm okay.
unidentified
Great.
I'm down here in Louisiana.
art bell
Louisiana.
unidentified
Yeah.
I want to ask you a question, Pleaser.
All right.
Were you on the air Monday night?
art bell
Monday night.
Why, yes, I was.
unidentified
Were you?
Yes.
Do you happen to remember what your show was about, Tom?
art bell
Predictions.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
We were doing predictions for 1997.
Why?
unidentified
Well, I was up a little late that night.
I'm not usually up that late.
And I stayed up late tonight.
I can just barely get your show.
I'm in Shreveport, Louisiana.
I don't know if you have any stations that are any better than 810.
That's in Chicago, and I don't have any extra antenna on my little radio.
I can barely hear you.
So are there any stations that I could get you any better here?
art bell
Well, are you anywhere near Monroe, Baton Rouge, or New Orleans?
unidentified
No, I'm in a drive pocket.
I'm 150 miles from Monroe.
art bell
All right, I would say try 1200 on the dial, which is the mighty San Antonio, W-O-A-I.
unidentified
I'm familiar with it.
What time do you...
art bell
Well, sure.
unidentified
Really?
Yes.
Okay, great.
I can get that every now and then if the atmospheric conditions are good.
art bell
Well, you need a good radio.
unidentified
I sure do.
Listen, that Madman Markham, that was unbelievable last night.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Well, honey, don't goad this guy to jump through the hoop.
art bell
I'm not goading him.
unidentified
I know.
art bell
This guy, now you've got to remember, this guy is intent on doing this.
I mean, he got tossed in jail.
Right, and still he's intent on doing this song.
I'm not goading him.
unidentified
I know you're not goading him, but he sounded so pathetic last night when you told him, I guess that was transcribed.
I mean, was that recorded last night?
art bell
That was recorded, yes.
unidentified
Okay, so when you said, well, this could be a real obituary for you.
art bell
It could be, it could be.
But look here.
Look here.
unidentified
Look.
art bell
Here's how to think of this.
All right.
I've reasoned it through.
unidentified
You think he's going to do it regardless?
art bell
Yeah, I do.
But I mean, people die.
They walk in front of 18 wheelers.
Smoosh, they're gone.
They get diseases.
they slowly deteriorate and they go that way there's lots of everything glory and you know if that's his thing in his way and it's really not suicide because he thinks he may go somewhere else then You're in the strength and brilliance and good thinking here.
unidentified
Is there any way that this man could be put in school and maybe further educated?
He said he had gone two years, I think, to some college.
Could we all get together and get this man an education and maybe he could actually do something with this fact that he likes to do?
art bell
maybe you will i mean what if i'd i tend not to look down my nose on on people doing He's building a saucer.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
That's his thing, and I think he should be commended for it.
Same thing with Madman.
You never know.
What if Madman opens a portal to somewhere else?
Then what will you be saying?
Then you'd be saying, what a genius.
unidentified
But, you know, we'll never know if he vaporizes where he is.
art bell
Well, we'll know because we'll be sweeping up, you know.
unidentified
Little scraps of paper.
art bell
That's right.
Listen, thank you very much for the call, and that's all I can say.
He's bound and determined to go ahead.
He's got a new warehouse.
He had to move the whole thing to a new warehouse.
Then he needed gigantic generators to generate the 3 million volts he's going to use.
And he's got them.
That's the last word I've got.
He's got them.
And they're all going in place.
So we're getting close to zero hour for Madman Markham.
And when I get the call, you know I'm gone.
So if one night I'm not here and they're announcing I'm on my way to Missouri, you'll know.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Yeah, this must be a real miracle.
art bell
Well, there are miracles, sir.
unidentified
I dialed the number one time and it started ringing.
art bell
Well, there you are.
unidentified
It's never done that.
Yeah.
Hey, anyway, Art, I kind of wondered, when can we start this quickening or awakening of all the listeners?
art bell
Sir, you can wake up anytime you want.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, I'm awake, but anyway, well, let's see.
I have a text here that explains history in our solar system.
art bell
You do, huh?
unidentified
Which might be nice to know before this thing traveling behind Hellbop gets here.
If I had your fax number, I could fax you an outline.
art bell
I'll send you my fax number.
You want it?
Yeah, yeah.
It's area code 702.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
727.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
8499.
unidentified
Okay, it'll be a maximum.
art bell
A three-page maximum.
If you send more than that, it will not print out.
I will never see it.
unidentified
Okay, I'll just send you two pages.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Yeah, it'll be called the Aboutin text.
art bell
All right, sir.
Thanks.
I'll look forward to it.
Yeah, some of you out in Central California might check 940.
The facts here says the rumor is that that's where the companion is transmitting at the moment on 940.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, Happy New Year, Art.
Hello?
Yeah, since you're talking about multiple lives on your station, I got another suggestion for Nicole.
Okay.
Okay.
art bell
We'll hold on while you do that.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
The eternal, everlasting instruction.
Turn off your radio.
unidentified
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't...
Nevada legalized ladies being topless in society since they legalized gambling and topless bars and brothels.
Yeah.
And another thing is...
Yeah, and another thing is why don't cement masons and bricklayers contribute to the floods at the Chucky River and build portable walls to replace the sacks being used?
art bell
Well, it wouldn't be a problem if you had multiple wives because you'd send them down there and all of them would sandbag together.
Your home would be cool.
right thank you First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, this is a call from Houston.
art bell
Well, hello, Houston.
unidentified
And I need to ask you something.
Okay.
You know, all the talk about Hale Bop.
Yes.
And I've heard you mention, or several other people mention, that Mr. Hale has said this and this and this, or he has thus and so on his website.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Has anyone talked with Mr. Bopp?
art bell
No.
unidentified
Is he that the silent partner?
art bell
Bop has been extremely quiet throughout all of that.
unidentified
I thought that was very strange that Mr. Bop would not open his mouth.
art bell
You would certainly think by now Mr. Bopp would have made some kind of statement to the press.
unidentified
Yes.
I just found that kind of strange.
art bell
I do too.
unidentified
I have another weird observation for you.
art bell
This is weird.
This dear lady is the home of weird observations.
Go right ahead.
unidentified
Probably no one but me has noticed this, but I've noticed in the last two years all the new car models that are coming out, not all of them, but a goodly portion of them, have headlights very similar to the shape of the eyes of the Greys.
art bell
Of what?
unidentified
Of the Greys.
art bell
Of the Greys.
unidentified
Have you noticed the shape of the headlamps?
The outline of the headlamps on the new cars?
art bell
Now that you mention it...
unidentified
They're kind of...
art bell
It's true.
It's true.
And before long, we'll probably have a vehicle that looks just almost exactly like a gray coming at you.
I don't think it's all any better than the Etzel, though.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no, no way.
I thought they're just getting us used to seeing that shape.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Good night.
art bell
Good night.
care.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
Talk about an insidious, slowly boiling frog, huh?
As our cars slowly morph into an image of the grays.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
Is this Mr. Bell?
art bell
Yeah, I'm the only one here, sir.
At the risk of being nauseatingly repetitive, turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah, I was just listening to a show, but it must not be tonight's show.
art bell
Yes, it is.
There's a delay.
unidentified
Oh, it is?
Oh, Mom.
I'm Brian.
I'm just calling from Lincoln, Nebraska.
I was just calling to say you got a great show, and it delivers nothing but unturned stones and undiscovered doors.
And just want to say props for 315.
art bell
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
315 affiliates now, yeah.
A lot of unturned stones and unopened doors and questions.
We probably generate more questions than we do answers.
unidentified
But that's kind of the way life is.
art bell
There are ready answers for very few things, including, by the way, why we can only have one wife.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Where are you?
unidentified
Oh, Fair to Midland.
This is Tim down in southeast Texas.
art bell
Fair to Midland, Texas, huh?
All right.
unidentified
Close enough.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Sometime back you were speaking about some volcanic activity in Iceland.
art bell
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
And I never heard any follow-up on it.
art bell
Well, what happened is a volcano, sir, went off, literally, underneath an ice flow, blew a hole through 200 meters of ice, and began to melt the ice.
And now they're having severe flooding problems.
I talked to a man in Iceland the other morning.
He was telling us about it.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
It's been about a month or so.
You talked about some volcanic activity.
I didn't catch all of it, I think, in the Caribbean.
art bell
Montserrat is on red alert, getting ready to blow in the Caribbean.
There is, in addition, a new Hawaiian island about to be formed.
It'll take some time, actually, but there's an underground volcano doing that.
unidentified
So there's a lot going on.
I'm not too worried about, but has anybody done any study about a tsunami in the Caribbean or in the Gulf?
art bell
Well, tsunamis anywhere are bad news, sir.
unidentified
Yes, but if the volcano blows out, that could be the cause of it.
And considering I live on the coast, people have worried about it.
art bell
Yeah, if it really blew, there's no question about it.
It could really cause some trouble, sure.
I'm rather intrigued at the prospect of a new Hawaiian island with the price of real estate in Hawaii the way it is.
We ought to be down there with some sort of a nuclear charge trying to encourage that thing along.
I mean, consider the worth of a new Hawaiian island.
By the way, if there is a new Hawaiian island, is it automatically part of Hawaii?
Or would it be up for grabs?
I wonder if anybody's thought about that.
In other words, when this thing breaks water, what if some other country comes along and slams a flag down?
Who's to say it automatically belongs to Hawaii and is part of the U.S.?
Who's to say?
As far as I know, the only islands are those we already know about that constitute Hawaii, which in fact is a state of this U.S. of this United States.
But if there's a new island.
West, it's like the question about wives.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Hi.
I have a question about one of the Clinton aides.
She was the lady that was supposedly keeping track of the Gulf War.
It turned up that a bunch of the pages were missing.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
She is subsequently turned up missing.
Have you heard anything about her?
art bell
Not a word.
I did hear about the missing texts, records.
unidentified
Exactly.
And she's the only one that was in charge of keeping track of that.
She's also mysteriously vanished.
art bell
Now, that I have not heard.
What is your source for that?
unidentified
Sounds pretty bad, but G. Gordon Liddy.
art bell
G. Gordon Liddy.
Well, that's all right.
G. Gordon might be a source.
unidentified
Yeah, and he's actually been looking for, and I haven't been able to get through to him to find out if he's had any new information.
But apparently, she cannot be found anywhere.
art bell
Intriguing.
unidentified
Another one of Clinton's inner circle that we might find bones before anything else.
Hey, have you checked your email lately?
I sent you an email about 20 minutes ago?
art bell
No, not that recently.
unidentified
Okay.
It's on Barry McCaffrey's position that he said about the new marijuana laws for medicinal marijuana in Arizona and California.
art bell
Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
He said that the voters were asleep at the Switch, that they didn't know what they were voting for.
art bell
What an arrogant bunch of BS.
I mean, how can they suggest that in other words, something is passed by the people of this country.
unidentified
In Arizona, it passed by 65%.
art bell
Yeah, and they're saying the people were asleep at the Switch simply because they don't agree with what the voters have done.
That is the most arrogant piece of BS I've ever heard.
unidentified
It's incredible.
Clinton is now saying that they're going to put the doctors in jail for prescribing it.
art bell
Well, I know.
Remove their licenses as well.
unidentified
It's amazing.
These guys can, there's other drugs in that classification, that category, that can be prescribed by the doctors.
They just choose for that certain drug not to be able to be allowed.
art bell
Yeah, I think they've lost their minds back there.
unidentified
It's crazy.
art bell
All right, thank you.
Right.
What happens is a government juggernaut gets going in a certain direction and they don't know how to turn around.
With regard to the drug war, they don't know how to change what they've already said.
They can't say marijuana is a dangerous, terrible drug on the one hand, and show frying pan with your brain on drugs and all the rest of it, and claim for this amount of time how awful it is, and then go in any other direction without appearing to be hypocritical.
So anything that would pop along, like Arizona and California's voter initiatives, well, they would have to claim that people were just crazy.
Didn't know what they were doing.
Asleep at the Switch, the caller said.
Arrogant BS.
Maybe they were asleep at the Switch when they elected the people that are back there issuing this crap.
Think about that, guys.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Oh, hello, Art.
art bell
Hello?
unidentified
You spooked me.
I'm not used to you actually answering.
I know.
Hi, my name's Dave.
I'm calling from Cape Droto, Missouri, the always lovely hometown of Rush Limbaugh, although I'm not proud of it.
art bell
Why not?
You don't like Rush?
unidentified
Actually, no, that's just not my politics.
I see.
About what the last caller said, I think it's about time the government realizes the drug war ended a long time ago, and I think we lost.
art bell
Well, we are losing, but I don't fully agree with that.
In other words, I draw a line between marijuana and what comes beyond it.
And I think the most intelligent thing we could do right now, since we're not going to get a change elsewhere, is to begin to tell the truth about marijuana and begin to have the law reflect the relative danger of marijuana.
unidentified
Well, that's true.
There is a certain danger to it, but it is a lot less dangerous than a lot of the other drugs out there.
art bell
Yes, it is.
unidentified
Now, I wish I'd been able to get through to you on last Friday or Monday to get in a prediction.
Do you recall if anybody got in any predictions related to the Internet?
Hmm.
art bell
Not specifically.
What would yours be?
unidentified
My prediction is that what with all the commercialization and the privatization of the Internet, sometime in 1997, it's just going to collapse under its own weight.
art bell
Oh, I don't think so.
Because it's growing.
More bandwidth becoming available all the time.
But I'm going to make my prediction.
I predict the government wants control of the internet, and the way they will try and get it The way they're going to try to get it is by allowing the release of some sort of classified data that will appear on the internet.
There will then be a national security reason to gain control over and regulate the internet.
Anybody out there want to bet that's how it comes down?
That is my prediction for 1997.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bells somewhere in time.
Tonight's program originally aired January 1st, 1997.
art bell
It is a little scary to consider that all it would take to really end the world would be one man with enough money, say derived from oil, and the scientific resources to develop something that would kill massively when released.
You know we have it.
I'm sure the Russians have it, the Chinese may have it, and perhaps Saddam has it.
Just a thought.
unidentified
*Sounds of the wind*
art bell
All right, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
How are you doing tonight?
art bell
Well, I'm alright.
unidentified
It's good to hear.
art bell
How are you?
unidentified
I'm pretty good.
art bell
All right.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
Well.
Basically, just that our time is going to end around the year 2000.
art bell
Aw, darn.
unidentified
I know you hate to hear it.
art bell
I do.
unidentified
I hate to say it.
art bell
How's it going to end?
unidentified
Well, it's going to end miserably, but you know, that's just the way it is.
art bell
Well, I mean, what's going to happen?
unidentified
Well, two-thirds of the world is going to die miserably.
art bell
From what?
unidentified
From fire in the sky.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
You're right, I wouldn't like that.
unidentified
No, I don't like it either, but that's just the way it is.
art bell
So, how do you plan to spend these next few precious years before the sky gets?
unidentified
Well, in the middle United States.
art bell
In the middle United States?
unidentified
Oh, sure.
I'm going to stay on the third that's going to survive.
art bell
What makes you so sure the middle United States is going to survive at all?
unidentified
Oh, well, geez.
I'm sorry.
I just assumed that.
Well, that's just a matter of time.
art bell
You've seen people delineate out assumed on the blackboard, right?
unidentified
Well, sir.
art bell
Well, the whole thing could crack right down the middle and you could fall in like a squished bug.
unidentified
You're right.
art bell
I know I am, sir.
I thank you for the call.
Think about it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello.
art bell
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
I will.
All right.
art bell
Waiting for that to get off.
unidentified
Is that better?
art bell
Oh, that's better.
unidentified
Okay, Art.
I need to know when you were speaking in terms of Tebop and the companion sending messages on a different frequency.
art bell
9.40.
unidentified
Something about 9.40 a.m.
I tuned in just then.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Can you tell me, please, just one more time what this means?
art bell
Well, what are you hearing?
unidentified
I'm hearing that they're going to give us a message tomorrow morning.
art bell
And I mean, what are you hearing on the radio?
That's all they're saying?
We will give you a message tomorrow morning?
unidentified
Well, Art, I woke up.
I tuned you in.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
You're my everything.
And this is what I heard, something about Tailbob and the companion.
And then we went on to hear about Nikola Tesla's.
art bell
Nicola, yeah, somebody called about Nicola Tesla.
unidentified
Tell me about that.
And about water's effect on Landmass.
By the way, I'm calling from Reading.
I see.
art bell
Right in the middle of it all, aren't you?
unidentified
Don't you love it?
art bell
Well, I'm glad you've got a sense of humor about it.
You guys are about to wash away, aren't you?
unidentified
I am about to wash away.
I'm alone.
I'm here.
The lights keep going on and off.
And finally, I found my way from my hospital bed, hospital bed art, to find some swab sticks and light my candles.
There wasn't one damn match in the house.
art bell
I see.
Well, obviously you've got a radio working.
unidentified
Oh, yes, I do right now.
It came back on.
art bell
Yes, and you're able to hear 940, right?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Yeah, and it's got what?
It's got a very strange countdown going on, doesn't it?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Uh-huh.
unidentified
And I believe that John's coming to visit.
Guess who's coming to dinner?
art bell
Guess who's coming to dinner?
unidentified
I love you so much.
I really do.
art bell
All right, my dear.
Thank you very much for the call, and hang loose in Reading.
There are some things just too good not to take advantage of.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, Art, how you doing?
That genetically sub-mutated human star being abandoned for being non-usable to the ETs, at least as far as I've been told, Tony from Las Vegas.
art bell
Well, I'd have said that to you, Tony, if you'd just asked.
unidentified
Hey, it looks like my prediction is coming true about the meteor shower and it being broadcast first.
art bell
Well, you know what?
This thing about the asteroids, it is true.
unidentified
Well, and I told you the other, mine's number 28.
art bell
And already your prediction is seemingly true.
Seeming well.
unidentified
Well, it's not true, but it might come true.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
I think it is going to come true.
art bell
I would say the odds have gone up.
unidentified
Yeah.
And also, a couple weeks ago, you had somebody call and talk about supposed gyros, weight-costing gyros.
Yep.
Okay.
I think I know what he could lend some credence to that.
You know how a gyro is circular or elliptical?
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
I think what he was talking about was oval gyros that throw the weight kind of like, you know, when you see a description in a science program of how a bird flies, it shows the wings go in an oval direction.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
These are oval gyros.
They throw the weight in it instead of centralizing the weight in all equally different directions, it throws it in one direction.
And thereby it can counter gravity.
Well, it's the most inexpensive anti-gravity.
art bell
Well, yeah, but I mean, what are its uses?
I mean, for example, could you put it in my Geo Metro?
unidentified
Well, you could put it in that guy's UFO that's where is he in.
art bell
Well, if you could put it in Al's UFO, you could put a spaceship Al, you could put it in my Geo.
unidentified
Right.
Well, you, well, I don't know about your Geo because it's already equipped.
art bell
Yeah, but I mean, you pull the engine.
unidentified
That's true, but it's still, you'd have to, you know, you'd have to retrofit it, and it wouldn't be easy.
art bell
I'm willing to try.
I mean, if you've got something that'll work.
unidentified
Hey, if you want to read that prediction 28 back over, it'll verify what...
art bell
It's sealed in the vault.
unidentified
Okay, well, I was the first one.
art bell
All right, thank you.
It is true.
There's a whole bunch of asteroids out there.
I'll tell you more about that.
I read that last hour.
And apparently they've changed their orbits.
Some, scientists are saying, may be on Earth-crossing orbits.
Now, that doesn't mean they're going to hit Earth.
It means if the Earth is in the wrong place at the right time, it could happen.
You know, NBC's got a new movie called Asteroid.
It's coming out in February.
I'm getting a little sick of life imitating art.
How about the rest of you?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
This is Oboe.
art bell
Yes, it is.
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
Okay.
This is Dennis from Hema, California.
art bell
Okay, well, we've got to leave the line because you didn't turn off your radio.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
Hello.
You can turn me off all you want, but I'm still here.
art bell
Well, that's true of me, too.
I mean, people turn me off all the time, but I'm still here.
unidentified
Right.
So we're back where we began.
art bell
Oh, you called already, didn't you?
unidentified
Yes, I was.
art bell
You're right.
You're off.
unidentified
You're out of here.
art bell
Goodbye.
You may be still talking, but we're not hearing you, you see.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, this is William.
I was calling in regards to all the flooding in California.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And also a prediction that Michael Scallion had put over the air just about in New Year's.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
He had a program that he had done, and he was talking about the flooding in Washington and Oregon and also in California.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I kind of think this might be kind of falling into that format, kind of a preliminary of what that may be coming together there.
art bell
Well, it could be.
You're saying it may be one of his predictions coming true.
unidentified
Very much so, yeah.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
With Hellbop coming around again like it's supposed to, it could be like a preliminary coming into it or leading up to it.
art bell
Could be.
unidentified
So that's basically all I had to say about it.
art bell
All right.
Basically, thank you and have a good morning.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
art bell
Hi.
unidentified
King Arthur.
Well, how are we, the knights of our round table?
I'm no king.
Anyway, I'd like to say my name is Val, and I'm calling from Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Yes.
And I'm hearing you on 1500 KSTP in St. Paul, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
art bell
Do the wild thing.
It's 702-727-1295.
That's all right.
I had to eliminate it.
You hit touch tones, and we knock them out, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
I just pressed the button by accident.
art bell
Yeah, don't do that.
unidentified
Okay, um, uh, the question I want to ask you, is there a radio station in my area of Winnipeg, Manitoba, that carries the whole program instead of like St. Paul goes to 5.30 in the morning, and that's all.
They don't go to 6 o'clock?
art bell
You know, I really can't answer that offhand.
Winnipeg, Manitoba.
I just can't answer that right now.
I think there may be something up there, but I'm not sure what.
unidentified
Okay, because I'd just like to hear the whole program.
Like, I hear it on Friday night, Saturday morning, the whole program.
But I'm wondering, now, I could make a prediction, but I know we have passed the prediction dates.
But I hope and predict that in March, between March and June, you'll have a shortwave station that I can hear the whole program on anyways.
art bell
I wouldn't bet on that.
unidentified
No?
art bell
And there are a number of reasons for that.
We were moving toward the idea of going on shortwave.
But frankly, technology has moved on, sir.
And to get coverage in foreign lands, there are better ways to go about it.
And we're moving toward that direction.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
You know, that's by satellite and direct satellite distribution and all that sort of thing.
It's a more effective way of doing what we want to do.
unidentified
Okay.
Now, the third question is, when are you going to have a station come to carry, will there be a local station in the future in Winnipeg, Manitoba to carry your entire program?
art bell
Well, I'll tell you what you do.
You figure out a good talk station, pick one in Winnipeg, Manitoba area, and call them up and request them to call our network.
That's the way to get that done, and I will be glad to give you that phone number.
Would you like it?
unidentified
Yes, please.
art bell
It's area code 541.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
664.
unidentified
664.
art bell
8829.
unidentified
8429.
art bell
8829.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And you want to ask for somebody in the affiliate relations department.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
514.
Is that 549?
art bell
No, no, no, no. 541.
unidentified
541.
art bell
You dyslexic thing, you.
541-664-8829.
unidentified
Yes.
All right.
Okay, thank you very much.
art bell
You bet.
Take care.
And that's the way to get that done.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
KQMS, Redding, California.
art bell
Oh, here she is.
unidentified
Oh, here I am.
How come I always say that?
It's like you're going to explode or something.
art bell
Well, I don't know.
It's always just.
unidentified
Oh, my God, what's next?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, you know, I really can't believe that you're actually a football fan because, you know, there's no explosions in football.
Oh, yes.
art bell
Oh, yes.
Explosions of human flesh.
Have you never seen somebody, a receiver, running down, a receiver jumping into the air when there are two defenders about to crash into him and turn him into a human sandwich?
That's an explosion.
unidentified
I'm not going to look at the tight pants.
You know what I'm tired of talking about?
What?
U.S. government cover-ups.
art bell
Oh, yeah, but they never end.
unidentified
Council for Relations, Trilaterals Commission, World Trade Organization, liberals being the root of all evil.
You know, I'm just like, oh, my God.
Let's talk about something else.
art bell
Did you...
unidentified
Oh, okay.
art bell
Did you know that I was just made a charter member of the Trilateral Commission?
unidentified
Oh, well, so now we have somebody on our side who can, like, tell us all the secret things that they're doing to pray with me.
art bell
And you know how I got it?
unidentified
How?
art bell
They saw my appearance on Dark Skies where I played William Paley, and they liked it so much they invited me.
unidentified
Wow, and of course you joined.
Of course.
Of course.
art bell
You don't think I want to help rule the world?
Come on.
unidentified
Give me a break.
Yeah.
art bell
I get to hobnob with Peter Jennings and people like that, deciding the fate of the world.
unidentified
You're just a little guy, huh?
And you're going to do things to brainwash us and get our money from us and overtax us.
art bell
In other words, it'll be business as usual.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Hey, you know, if men can have more than one wife, or, you know, possibly, I want women to have more than one husband.
art bell
Oh, well, it would be in this day of equal rights given.
unidentified
That's right.
I'd send all mine out to work.
art bell
In other words, you want more than a two-income family.
unidentified
That's right.
I'd be glad to have a four-income family.
You know, and we'd have lots of dependents, I'm sure.
art bell
You know, actually, as it is, women outlive men.
They inherit men's money, and most of the money is in the hands, and real estate is in the hands of women.
Did you know that?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
But, you know, well, see, actually, listen, that's a secret.
You're not supposed to tell anybody.
art bell
Well, it's no big secret to me.
I mean, you can see.
unidentified
I know, but you know, we try not to talk about it because we like to let our men think that they're in charge.
art bell
Oh, I know.
unidentified
Okay?
art bell
I know.
unidentified
So let's not talk about that anymore.
art bell
Very sad, actually.
unidentified
Yeah, well, okay, just so long as you know who's really wearing the pants in the world.
art bell
Yeah, all right, thanks.
I have known that for a long time.
You can see it.
Women giving each other a knowing nod, a little smile at the corner of the mouth, a quick wink of the eye when they don't think men are watching.
Oh, no.
I know.
I know, I know, and they know that I know.
It's actually very dangerous for me.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yeah, this is Frank from Missouri.
art bell
All right, Frank from Missouri.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Okay.
It's off.
art bell
Good for you.
unidentified
Yeah, I was calling a couple three things there tonight.
One, you'd had Joyce Riley on there here a while back.
That's correct.
And she had been talking about that Title 50 and the U.S. Code Annotated.
art bell
That's right.
And so we dug it up and put it on the web page so everybody could see it.
unidentified
And we were able to get it off your web page, but we did a little further research on it, tried to get a hold of some of the universities that teach law.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And they have put a block in there where you can't get that anymore.
art bell
Well, it can't be very blocked.
Maybe it's blocked now, but I'll tell you something.
unidentified
Well, it wasn't earlier when you first mentioned it.
I know.
art bell
It was at Cornell.
And there were enough people who got it, so it's well known.
unidentified
Yeah, well.
The other thing I was going to mention, you were talking about the multiple wives thing there earlier.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And the reason that law came into effect in the United States was because of the Mormons.
Back in the 1800s, when they first started up, they were taking multiple wives, and until that time, there was not a law.
The reason it came into effect is because they wanted to have some kind of a legal hold over the Mormons.
And that's when it first came into effect in the United States.
art bell
Listen, since I'm joining the Trilateral Commission, what do you think that I should push for?
unidentified
Oh, well, probably to have the UN go ahead and just let their soldiers out of those bases around the United States now.
They've been cooped up for all this time.
They need to get out and stretch a little bit.
More RNR time for some of the country.
They've been cooped up on all those bases for so long.
They need to get out.
art bell
So let's see a few of those blue helmets out in the cities.
unidentified
Sure, yeah.
art bell
All right.
Sounds like a good mission to me.
Thank you.
I'll bring it up at the next meeting.
Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
Robert, you've made the first mistake.
You can't use your last name on the air.
unidentified
That is not my last name.
This is just a different name.
art bell
Well, I can't put it on there anyway.
Just give me a first name, Robert.
unidentified
Robert.
Robert.
All right.
I've been working and studying the design of an alien craft.
Cool.
And I've understood it, and I've been understanding the communication that they're sending.
art bell
Oh, wait a minute.
who's sending Yes, Hellbot.
unidentified
I see.
The way that their communication is is by static electricity charges.
art bell
really No.
That's primitive, man.
Listen, do you want to hold on during the break here?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
You do?
All right.
Maybe we can straighten this out.
I mean, you can see a little braid just shuffling across the rug and touching the go bar, getting a shock, then going.
unidentified
We'll be back.
We'll be back.
Midnight happy awaiting.
Send your camel to bed.
Shadows paint in our faces.
Crazy.
There's a romance in our head.
Heavens holding our hands.
Shining just for us.
Let's live all through a dead.
Kick up a little girl.
Hold on.
Can't you live our friend?
He walked down the way.
Hold on till the evening.
Till the evening.
He won't have the answer.
You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 1st, 1997.
art bell
Once again, here I am.
Top of the morning, everybody.
It's great to be here.
unidentified
You know, let me tell you.
art bell
I got a telescope for Christmas, and I have been salivating to use this telescope, and since Christmas.
I have not had one...
It's really depressing.
I go out every few hours and I look at the sky, and it's totally cloudy out there.
Totally, totally cloudy.
unidentified
So it's depressing.
art bell
It was a plan.
You'd think somebody who could get into the Trilateral Commission could get a clear night, but no.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
art bell
How's the wifey?
How's what?
unidentified
How's your wife?
art bell
My wife is much better, thank you.
unidentified
Good.
You had this, Mr. Hoagland, on, and I courteously ask, would you give the radio audience the history?
How did you ever meet this fine man?
art bell
How did I meet Richard Hoagland?
You know what?
I think a listener, I believe that a listener said, you have got to interview this guy.
unidentified
And this has been, what, ten years ago, five years ago?
art bell
Oh, good five years at least, sure.
unidentified
Okay.
I wanted to bring one last thing up, very important about these so-called carved in wood maps.
At least two of them have, at the upper end of the Nile, unbelievably, carved an unk and the word colonna.
But, very importantly, in having taken very excellently.
art bell
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
What is colonomy?
unidentified
I'm going to get to that.
Thank you for asking the question.
You're welcome.
They have great photographers.
By the way, these museums all over the world, they must get more funding.
They've got fine people working in them.
art bell
I'm sure they do.
What is colonomy?
unidentified
Okay.
The photographers taking real good photos have shown that there's an O and an N before the C or the K. In other words, Onkolonut, which is an ancient Finno-Uralic Ugric word, can be interpreted as channeling, canyon, theonk.
Very interesting.
There's a lot more to be found.
Yeah, huh, right.
And if these so-called carved-in-wood maps actually come from very ancient times, you know that our numbering system was first found in caves in the Indus Valley in India, about 600 before Christ.
However, for some reason or other, at least one of these has carved the number 323.
Now, that is the time of Ptolemy in Egypt.
art bell
All right, sir, we're going to have to leave it there and get the next episode in the next call.
Here I thought it meant something else.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
All right, this is David from Kentucky.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm doing fine.
unidentified
I love your show, man.
Thank you.
What was the guy talking about?
art bell
I don't know.
I think he knows, but I don't know.
unidentified
Well, I've got one question for you.
I want to know, what's your IQ?
art bell
Well, it's what do you think it is?
unidentified
Gosh, I don't know.
I mean, you're a very, very intelligent person.
So the last time you probably checked it was higher than the average room temperature.
And what's the meaning of life?
art bell
Actually, I do know the answer to that.
Women.
The answer is women.
unidentified
Well, only two good thoughts in this world, right?
Women and, I guess, money.
And has that perfect 10, has she ever sent you a picture of her?
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And, oh, she sounds great.
art bell
Uh-huh.
unidentified
I hope she.
art bell
I asked her if I could put it on the webpage.
She said no.
she was a good if you fail i'm you know i don't want to i want to make a comment because it's everything it is so i i It's so subjective.
I mean, so totally subjective.
Anyway, you asked about the meaning of life, and that clearly is the meaning of life.
Thank you.
Women are the meaning of life.
Now, if there were no women, it would not be worth living, would it?
Think about that.
I'm serious.
Without women, life really, really would not be worth living, would it?
So, there you have it.
All right.
Moving on now, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello?
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Good.
unidentified
Yes, I'm telling about last night I heard you talking to Madman Mark.
art bell
Madman Markham, yes.
unidentified
Yes, and I heard you mention the Philadelphia Project.
Yes.
I was wondering if you could talk a little more about that.
And I didn't know.
I never heard about that.
art bell
All right.
I'll tell you what you do.
Go out to your local video store tomorrow and rent a movie called The Philadelphia Experiment.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
And then call me back.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
Thank you, and have a good morning.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, how you doing?
art bell
I'm doing.
unidentified
All right.
I was just listening and I didn't really hear all about it.
art bell
All about what, sir?
unidentified
On 940.
art bell
On 940?
You mean the Hail Mary signal?
unidentified
Yeah, what exactly is that, sir?
art bell
The Hail Mary signal.
unidentified
Okay, because I found it.
art bell
940.
unidentified
Yeah, and he's like counting down.
And then he says things in between.
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
Has it been counting down for a long time?
art bell
Messages, sir, to humanity.
unidentified
Has it been counting down for a long time?
Has it reached zero yet and started over?
art bell
No, well, no.
Did you see Independence Day, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, I did.
art bell
You did?
Do you remember what happened when they got to zero?
unidentified
Didn't those ships like the spaceships blew everything up or something?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
So they haven't reached zero yet?
art bell
No.
I mean, is your city intact?
Yeah, you answered your own question there.
unidentified
What do you think is going to happen when it reaches zero?
art bell
I don't know.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
I think you get the picture.
I mean, you can read between the lines here, right?
unidentified
Yeah, well, what is, like, who's where's this signal coming from?
art bell
940?
unidentified
Yeah, but what's it coming from?
Who's putting out the signal?
art bell
Well, I don't know.
I mean, that's a matter for conjecture.
There are those who faxed me and said it was Hail Mary.
unidentified
Hail Mary?
art bell
Hail Mary.
unidentified
I don't know.
Do they have proof of that?
art bell
I mean, no, of course not.
It's just a fax.
How could there be any proof?
unidentified
I don't know.
art bell
All right, sir.
Thank you very much for the call.
You'll have to just wonder.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, this is Wayne and Gillette.
art bell
Hi, Wayne in Gillette, Wyoming.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Oh, pretty good about yourself.
art bell
Is that where the Gillette razor is manufactured?
unidentified
No.
art bell
What is Gillette famous for?
unidentified
Nothing.
art bell
Nothing.
Would you turn your radio off, please?
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Why do people have so much trouble with this?
unidentified
Okay, all right.
art bell
All right, that's good.
unidentified
Okay.
I've just never been able to get a hold of you and just kind of wanted to get a hold of you and tell you that to kind of listen to you here, and we get you out of the Twin Cities, actually.
art bell
Uh-huh.
And that comes into Gillette very well?
unidentified
Yeah, actually, $1,500.
art bell
That's cool.
Oh, yes.
Big, big signal.
unidentified
Cool.
art bell
How big is Gillette, Wyoming?
unidentified
20,000 people.
art bell
20,000.
That's about the size of my town.
unidentified
Yeah, I kind of like it that way.
art bell
I kind of like it this way, too.
But my town is the fastest-growing town in Nevada, which is the fastest-growing state in the Union.
unidentified
Why is that?
art bell
Hell, I don't know.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
Guess people getting sick of California, I guess.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah, I can kind of see where that comes from.
art bell
Low taxes.
unidentified
Really?
art bell
Relative freedom.
unidentified
I don't know.
I think we're a little bit more free here.
art bell
Well, yeah.
Prove it.
unidentified
Prove it?
Yeah.
I don't know.
art bell
Can you gamble in Gillette?
unidentified
Do you have...
art bell
you don't have...
unidentified
Well, no.
art bell
Well, we can.
unidentified
Well, we just have to go over to South Dakota.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
But that means you've got to travel outside Gillette to somewhere else?
unidentified
Well, it's no big deal to get out of Gillette, though.
Not a bad thing.
It's only a couple hours.
art bell
How many traffic lights do you have?
unidentified
I don't know.
art bell
Be honest here.
unidentified
About maybe a dozen.
art bell
Do you know how many we have?
unidentified
How many?
art bell
One.
unidentified
Just one big long street?
art bell
Just one traffic light.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
So there you are, sir.
You lose.
unidentified
Sorry.
art bell
Plus, we have one other thing.
unidentified
What's that?
art bell
We have county officials that move the feds out of the way with bulldozers here.
unidentified
Well, actually, we've got county officials that don't listen to anybody.
art bell
They don't even listen to their own constituents, right?
unidentified
uh...
art bell
uh...
all right haha we really do have county officials that uh...
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
We're having fun now, aren't we?
art bell
I guess we are, yeah.
unidentified
Tim in Denver.
art bell
Hello, Tim.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
art bell
And to you.
unidentified
I wanted to tell you about our party.
art bell
What party is that?
unidentified
Well, the chat club party we had last night.
Oh?
We were going to call you en masse and be the largest group that had ever called you while listening at the same time.
art bell
There's just one little hitch in that.
We weren't live last night.
unidentified
I know.
We figured that out real quick.
So we planned ahead, but it didn't work out.
So what we did was we watched the Strange Universe segment that you were on.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
And then we watched the Dark Skies episode.
And we watched Strange Harvest with William Bolton Howell.
art bell
No kidding.
unidentified
We got on your webpage, and then we powwowed at midnight.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
We had a great time.
It was really super.
art bell
Sounds like fun.
unidentified
And I hear Whitley Streeber is coming to Denver, so hopefully we can get a group to go down and attend his book signing.
art bell
Whitley is coming to Denver.
unidentified
That's what I hear.
He's going to have a book signing the 11th, which is the same day the chat club meets, January 11th.
This is Saturday.
So hopefully we'll get a large group down and support him and visit with him and be a great time.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Also, also, can you get Shirley McLean on as a guest this year?
art bell
I would love to get Shirley on.
unidentified
We talked about that the entire evening last night.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, we said of all the people we'd really like to hear you interview, Shirley McLean would be a great one.
art bell
I would love to get her on.
unidentified
Well, best of luck to you.
We hope you do it.
art bell
All right, my friend.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
Have a good night.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Okay, let's see.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, is this Art Bill?
art bell
It is.
unidentified
I'm John from Huntsville, Texas.
art bell
Hi, John.
unidentified
I wanted to call.
You were talking about the problem Arizona is having with the federal government.
art bell
Hi, yes.
unidentified
Mary Jane?
Yes.
I grew up in Arizona, so you struck a real note with me.
I think what I think people of Arizona need to do on radio before.
art bell
Ah, relax.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
There's nothing to it.
unidentified
What they need to do is they need to have like a confidence vote in the federal government.
art bell
And if it's a no-confidence vote, then what?
unidentified
Then the state of Arizona should secede.
art bell
well the country don't need a civil war right now You know, I thought this to be one of the more interesting questions ever posed.
Let's say that Arizona or California or any other state decided to secede and papers were served on our President Clinton.
And you're the advisor.
You go to the President.
Mr. President, I'm afraid this is serious.
Arizona is very angry.
Their legislature has just passed a measure to secede.
Mr. President, what are your orders?
Now, would President Clinton order the federal troops in, Janet Reno stormtroopers, to squash the Arizona legislature and any resistance in Arizona?
Or would the president, trying to avoid conflict, simply do nothing and allow it to occur?
unidentified
Well, I was thinking what they ought to do, if the vote is no confidence, the state of Arizona should, like, enact a law, I guess, to say that any law enforcement authority at the federal level, that they would not recognize that individual's authority to arrest or detain citizens of Arizona.
And if they did, then they would be committing a crime in the state of Arizona and be subject to arrest themselves to essentially take the teeth out of the feds so they can't fight the people of Arizona anymore.
art bell
Well, but you're dealing with people, sir, who make their own law.
It really would be interesting to see what would occur.
All right, I have entered now a different chat room.
I have gone on to my webpage.
I have a webpage.
It's www.artbell.com.
And I'm in a new chat room.
We have chat rooms on the webpage.
And I am in the topical discussion chat room.
So if any of you would like to join in, get on the internet, get to the Art Bell webpage, www.artbell.com, scroll down until you get to the public chat rooms, and come on into the topical chat room.
For I am in there now.
And we'll sort of, we spent a little time in the AOL chat room this morning, an hour, hour and a half.
Now I'm in this topical chat room, and I have never before entered, well, one time before, and they didn't believe it was me.
They didn't think it was me.
So I finally said, okay, and I left.
It was embarrassing.
My own chat room, they wouldn't believe it was me.
unidentified
So I said, okay.
Goodbye.
art bell
But now I've gone in there and now I can affirm that I am the one that's in there.
So if you have an opportunity to get up on the web, come on in.
It's www.artbell.com.
And you go down to the public chat rooms and you'll see the topical chat room listed.
That's what I'm in right now.
unidentified
*Screams* *Screams* Thank you.
art bell
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
This is Carrie from Washington.
art bell
Hello, Carrie.
unidentified
Well, I was just going to ask you about what happened with the IRC thing, but you just answered that.
art bell
Oh, it was some kind of victory, let me tell you.
unidentified
Yeah, I was going to say I went to war, but it sounds like you won.
No, the other thing was, you know.
art bell
It was, you know, these were people who, I mean, I barely know my way around IRC at all, but these people really knew what they were doing.
And they got together, and it took about an hour, hour and a half, and they got it all turned around.
unidentified
Oh, that was quick.
Yeah.
What does IRC stand for anyways?
art bell
I think it's Internet Relay Channel, but I'm not sure.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
The other thing is, earlier you guys were talking about, or somebody called in and was talking about the new island that was forming off of Hawaii.
Yes.
My opinion on that would be that the Hawaiian natives would take it over because they want to secede from the Union anyways.
art bell
I know they do, yeah.
unidentified
So if anybody was to get that, they would.
art bell
I know, but the way things have gone lately, the Japanese would sneak in, slam a flag down, and that would be that.
unidentified
Well, they would try, but I don't think we'd have to do it.
art bell
Actually, the truth of the matter is that there are X number of miles of territorial water.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
And anything that pops up in that area, I think, would be nationalized immediately.
unidentified
Well, that's true.
Because what is it, a 200-mile limit around whatever the state is.
art bell
I'm not sure whether we've increased our limit to 200 miles or not.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Because I thought it was international waters were like 200 miles off of any country.
art bell
Well, I know a lot of countries claim 200.
I think we still claim just 12.
I'm not sure.
unidentified
Okay, well, that's all I needed to say.
art bell
All right, well, I'm glad you said it.
And we won the IRC war.
It wasn't even a contest.
unidentified
Well, cool.
art bell
Thank you.
unidentified
Okay, thanks.
art bell
Take care.
Oh, what a great victory.
Thank you all who helped.
First time caller align.
You're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, Robert.
This is Robert.
Arthur?
robert has a good this is about the The static electricity.
art bell
Oh, yes.
What happened?
unidentified
I got disconnected.
art bell
All right.
Well, anyway, you were talking about an alien vehicle that was powered by static electricity.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And I was wondering if a little gray had to scuff across the carpet and touch something.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
It actually is.
I've been studying the ancient pyramids.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Stonehenge.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And electrical fields.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And if you look at the design of the large pyramid, it's got a water well.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
It's got two different airflows.
So the upper one's hotter than the lower one.
And then it's got an iron pit.
So the top one is actually to generate a hot air.
art bell
can you send me these plans by mail or fax?
unidentified
Um I can I don't have them all written down.
art bell
Well, when you get them written down, could you do that?
unidentified
Sure.
art bell
All right, because right now we've got to go.
This, of course, is dedicated to those who are sick of the water and the rain in the northwest.
Listen, I'm in my own chat room up on the webpage.
It's the general topics or daily topics chat room.
So if you're on the web, come on up, www.partbell.com.
We'll see you in there.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
This stands beside the river where you were to meet me.
Oh.
On the ground your glove I found...
*music*
Thank you.
Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight's program originally aired January 1st, 1997.
We are conducting a test.
art bell
Actually, there are two things going on.
One, we're going to test and find out how many people can enter one chat room before a server explodes.
And here's how you do it.
I'm right now in my own chat room.
We have one on the webpage, actually a couple.
So if you have the ability to get in, come on in.
Usually people with Windows 95 and Netscape can get in.
I don't know about others.
I think Mac users are automatically barred.
Now, I'll tell you, you just come to my webpage.
My webpage at www.artbell.com.
www.artbell.com.
Scroll down until you see something that says public chat rooms.
And we're in the topical chat room right now.
And we want to see how many people we can squeeze in there, which is like the old days when they try to see how many people you can get into a Volkswagen.
Remember that?
So come on up and join us.
If you have an extra moment, you're on the web.
Come on by and join us.
www.artbell.com.
One other thing that we're doing is we are looking for new artwork.
This is your chance.
I know there's a lot of computer graphics people out there who are very, very, very good with computer graphics.
So we are going to have a contest.
We are going to create a new Art Bell logo for the web page, a new logo.
And we need somebody out there who's very good with computer graphics.
And I know this program is loaded with people who are good at it.
Similar to, but different than the computer graphics we have been running.
So if you're good at computer graphics and you would like to have your submission up on my webpage, send your submission to webmaster at artbell.com.
That would be Keith, of course.
Keith Roland of the infamous no smoking Mesa, Arizona, where he is Web Honcho.
But don't send it to Web Honcho.
Send it to Webmaster at artbell.com.
If you can create a good graphic, something that you think would be representative of the program and great to have on the webpage, send it off to webmaster at artbell.com.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Greetings and salutations, Arthur.
art bell
And to you, sir, where are you?
unidentified
You have the Kansas Core Inservative here.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I haven't been able to hear you since about 4 o'clock because Wichita and its great wisdom cuts you off then.
art bell
Well, they probably have a morning show.
unidentified
Well.
Got some good news.
As soon as the little station Wellington gets the equipment, they're going to start carrying you.
art bell
Wellington?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Way down on the southern border, and that'll fill in a little hole here.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
And they're going to carry you clear up to 6 o'clock in the morning and then maybe repeat the first hour, they said.
art bell
Well, now that's cool.
unidentified
Yeah, we won't have to strain to hear you.
Anyhow, since I haven't been able to hear you, I don't know if you plowed this ground or not, but you were talking about polygamy.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Well, I figured out that there's no way that it can be unconstitutional because then they would have to say, well, this is a good religion or a bad religion.
There's no way they can do that because there's 600 and some Protestant religions in the United States alone.
So if they were to say, well, this is a good one, then that means the other 599 are bad, and they're not going to put up with that.
So, you know, they can't all be right.
I'm certain of that.
Don't know which one is right.
Don't even know if the Mormons are right.
But here's the bottom line.
Look at how many mistresses it put out of work.
Right there.
art bell
It would end the mistress thing, wouldn't it?
unidentified
Yeah, it probably put a lot of hookers out of business, or certainly slow things down.
And the main reason is the other 599 Protestant religions could not compete because if they could send missionaries out and say, hey guy, you ever have these times, you know, when your wife has a headache and you'd rather she didn't?
Well, just think, if you had five wives, what are the probabilities of all of them having a headache at the same time?
art bell
Probably pretty high, actually.
unidentified
You think so?
art bell
Yeah.
Well, I'm telling you, the real reason that men can't have many, many wives is simple, true human behavior.
You know, there would be murders, there would be killings, it would make today's typical family dispute look like a kindergarten battle.
Trust me.
unidentified
Well, I think if you tried that with American women, you're probably right.
The Mormons back in the olden days, they were important women by the bushel basket full from Europe.
I think you might be able to get away with that with some Oriental women.
art bell
Possibly, but even today's Oriental woman, sir, I assure you, is beginning to get rather westernized.
unidentified
Well, I've been married to two American women, and they were both chupacabras.
art bell
Thank you for the call, sir.
Chupacabras, huh?
Really, though, American women are just not ready for that.
And believe me, the American men wouldn't be ready for it either.
So the real reasons are the logical human reasons and the crime rate.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hello?
unidentified
Oh, boy, let me get my radio.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, I got dialer's cramp here.
Redialer's cramped.
art bell
Redier's cramp, yeah.
unidentified
My thumb is swollen from that.
Art is Dennis from L.A. Hi.
How are you?
art bell
Fine.
unidentified
That's a common question for you there.
Hey, what are we going to do about our government here, Art?
art bell
About our what?
unidentified
government.
How can they step in and tell us what we want and say that we are now what is that helps how can they That's very frustrating to me.
It's not even the marijuana thing.
It has nothing to do with the problem.
art bell
Well, isn't it a little presumptuous of those back in Washington to presume they were asleep at the Switch only when they voted on that one issue?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
Everything else, it's okay for us to get our votes approved as long as it's okay with them.
And that's what they're saying.
art bell
Well, they're making a big mistake.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
They really are.
This time, they're making a big mistake because this time it's not the courts stepping in so much.
I mean, they may certainly get involved.
This time, it's the federal government stepping in, and there's going to be a lot more resentment.
Mark my words.
unidentified
That's right.
It's pretty scary because I see in a future that if they think they can get away with it this time, then it's going to keep happening.
Has there ever been in history a time when the government or a judge has overturned a people's vote that you know of?
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
I thought this was the first unprecedented time.
art bell
No.
California, well, let's see.
I believe Colorado passed a constitutional amendment.
That got overturned by the courts.
I believe California recently passed a measure with respect to illegal immigrants.
That got put on hold by the courts.
No, it's not the first time, but usually it's the courts, not the federal government and their drug czar warlord people.
unidentified
It seems to me that this isn't a free country like it's supposed to be.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
By any means.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you get my email from the other night?
art bell
I don't know, sir.
unidentified
You probably did.
art bell
Hit a lot of email here, so I don't know.
unidentified
It wasn't significant there.
art bell
All right.
Well, thank you.
unidentified
Thank you, Ark.
art bell
Take care.
Well, looks like we may have crashed this room.
It says error 444, network connection closed.
Disconnected.
Network connection closed.
Ah, well, I guess we found out what the limit of that room was.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, this is Art Bell, right?
art bell
Yes, this is Art Bell, yes.
unidentified
Okay, this is from Kemet, California.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
And I remember asking her you had, or you said you built your own transmitter.
Had an Army base was it in Texas?
art bell
That I what, sir?
unidentified
Um you built your own radio transmitter?
art bell
That I built it?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Uh yes, I've built many radio transmitters.
unidentified
Okay, um uh um how much do you know about radios?
art bell
Um a fair amount.
Why?
unidentified
I have problems with my CB and I'm trying to fix it.
art bell
What's the matter with it?
unidentified
Well I know it's internally because uh um well I saw a transistor smoking in front of me.
art bell
A transistor smoked.
That's an immediate bad sign.
If a transistor has smoked then at the very least you're going to have to replace that.
But the odds are that something caused that transistor to smoke.
Now, you were not by any chance in there trying to experiment with getting more power from your CB, were you?
unidentified
I was not, however, since I...
I was not.
art bell
The only way we can really help you is to know the truth.
unidentified
I was simply trying to figure out problems with people trying to hear me.
art bell
So you were trying to increase power.
I knew it, see.
unidentified
No, I knew it.
art bell
I'm psychic.
unidentified
I know people are within a half a mile.
Uh-huh.
art bell
I'm psychic.
All right.
Well, what you do is you take it to an electronic repair person.
Because once the transistor is gone, there is no simple fix.
You probably were jumping one point to another point, trying to achieve more output.
So, sorry about that.
You're going to have to go to somebody who knows.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, Art.
I just had an interesting kind of question.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
I've noticed that you kind of laughingly have referred to the Trilateral Commission a few times this evening.
art bell
I wasn't laughing.
unidentified
Well, like, okay, well, I just a few years ago.
art bell
I would never laugh at an organization that has invited me to be part of their esteemed body.
unidentified
Nice.
Well, Kane, I had something really interesting happen to me about two weeks ago.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
My grandfather passed away.
art bell
I'm sorry.
unidentified
And, well, yeah, he's a great guy.
He was a professor at Harvard.
Now, this might sound kind of like it would have been an episode of some television show, but I was outside of his room a couple nights before he passed on.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And my father was in there.
And I heard mention, and I've heard of it before, but I actually heard the mention of a group called the Skull and Crossbones.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And I didn't hear very much.
art bell
How did you know I had a tattoo?
unidentified
You have a tattoo.
art bell
How'd you know that?
unidentified
Dare I ask where?
art bell
Huh.
unidentified
Well, they mentioned it.
And a few days go by.
My grandfather passes on.
And a few days after that, I ask my father about it.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And he says he can't really explain it to me.
He goes, maybe sometime in the future.
art bell
No, those of us so adorned are unable to speak about it.
should know that i mean you should know better than Yeah, I mean.
Well, he did tell you that.
unidentified
Well, no, it was my father that did.
art bell
Your father?
unidentified
Yeah, he said that he couldn't really talk about it with me.
art bell
See?
unidentified
Now, he's always talking about that.
That's right.
art bell
He's absolutely right.
unidentified
So I've done a lot of, you know, looking around on the internet.
You know, I've tried to look on some books and things like that.
art bell
If I were to actually tell you about this.
unidentified
You'd have to come to my house and kill me per chance?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, sir.
Thank you very much for the question.
I appreciate it.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes.
Hello, Art Bill.
Hello there.
Let me turn my radio off.
Okay.
art bell
Turning off his radio.
First time callers, Area 702-727-1222.
Tony, Tony.
unidentified
And I'm in Austin, Texas.
art bell
Tony, Tony, Tony.
You're not allowed to use your last name on the radio.
unidentified
Oh, I'm not?
No.
Okay, well, only Tony.
All right, well, my name's Tony.
Cool.
art bell
And you're in Austin?
unidentified
I'm in Austin, Texas, and I'm a professional clairvoyant.
art bell
You know what?
We got a new affiliate in Austin.
unidentified
I know it.
art bell
And now the entire show is being carried in Austin.
It's KJFK.
Is that right?
Maybe it's not right.
It's not right.
Yes, it is.
FM.
We're on FM in Austin.
unidentified
Yes.
Yep.
Okay.
As I said, I'm a professional clairvoyant.
art bell
How do you get to be, I mean, how does one delineate between an amateur and a professional?
unidentified
Well, a professional earns his living.
art bell
Ah, that's doing that.
unidentified
But, you know, I've been doing it for now 20 years.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And I did work at the Psychic Institute in Las Vegas, Nevada.
You might be familiar with those folks.
art bell
I've heard of it.
unidentified
And I've worked in other states.
Now I'm in Texas.
But the reason I'm calling your show is because I heard Ed Dames on there.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I think he's quite a great man.
Yes.
So do I. And when I was working at the Psychic Institute in Vegas, a lady came from Russia whose name was Sylvia.
She never did give me her last name.
But she worked there for a while, and she told me all about the Russian remote viewing.
Except that, of course, they use natural psychic.
All right?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And that's when I started to get involved with the fact that the government, both the U.S. government and the Russian government, were using both natural clairvoyants and technical remote viewers.
Now, I don't know exactly where you stand on that.
I think you're a believer.
art bell
In remote viewing, yes.
You are correct.
unidentified
Okay.
Now, I realize I probably don't have a lot of time right now, and just cut me off whenever you feel that you should.
art bell
All right, that'll do it right there.
No, I'm just kidding.
Go ahead.
If you have something important, get it out.
unidentified
Right.
Okay, here's the most important thing.
97 is going to be the year that the large quakes begin in California.
art bell
So it is said.
unidentified
Okay, now, you can talk to a lot of people that I have done readings for, and I have never said any other year except for 97.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
I know Scallion and a lot of other people have said 94, 95, and they've caused a lot of, not intentionally, of course, but they've caused a lot of skepticism because things have not happened.
But I have always seen 97.
97 and 98 are the two years that is going to really demolish California.
art bell
Demolish it.
unidentified
Demolish it.
art bell
That's going to take quite a quake.
unidentified
Well, there's going to be three gigantic quakes.
And the first one is going to hit Southern California.
And it's going to be in January this year.
art bell
In other words, well, it's already January.
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
So you're saying this month?
unidentified
This month.
art bell
God, that's bad.
unidentified
Okay, and it's going to be the final warning for people to get their belongings and move out of that tremendous earthquake zone.
That is the hottest earthquake zone in the world.
art bell
Well, it's been kind of cold for a while.
Yes, it is.
That's actually bad news.
It's better when you're getting a bunch of small quakes.
All right, listen, that'll have to do it for tonight.
Thank you very much for the call.
That's our new Austin affiliate, FM, and they're carrying the whole show, too.
FM Talk Radio is really on the rise, folks.
unidentified
FM Talk Radio is really on the rise, folks.
art bell
First time caller online, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, I was calling about the signal at 940.
Yes.
Well, I've heard the signal before.
I've actually heard this before.
art bell
You've heard it before?
unidentified
Yes.
It was a couple years ago.
A friend of mine and I were driving around, and we heard it all of a sudden broadcast on the air, and we were freaked out by it.
And it's, you know, it counts down.
Yep.
And I guess it's supposed to end at like 5 o'clock this morning.
Well when the signal ended before, a new radio station came on the air.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
So you're suggesting it could be a promotional thing.
unidentified
Yeah, kind of like the giant egg.
We were really scared by it.
We kept coming back to it, you know, to see if it was over.
art bell
Well, you know what?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
They depend on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
That is to say, you keep coming back to it.
What is that?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
art bell
What is that?
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
Is it going to be the end?
Is it going to be like an inventory when they get to zero?
What's going to happen?
So earlier tonight, I read the facts and somebody said that's what it was.
from Hail Mary, so...
unidentified
Well, I mean, I don't have a...
art bell
I'd say it's a safe bet.
But you know me, I couldn't resist having fun with people.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I mean, it worked on us the first time I heard it.
You know, I thought, oh my God, the world's ending.
art bell
And this is the countdown.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's what I thought.
World World, we're all going to die when the thing ends.
art bell
All right.
Well, thank you very much, dear.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
You take care.
Yeah, in all likelihood, that is exactly what it is.
But for lack of a better explanation, it sure sounded good.
The Hail Mary frequency, right?
We'll be right back.
unidentified
I see trees of green, red roses too.
I see them blue for me.
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world I see skies of blue and clouds of white, the bright, blessed day, the dark stay goodnight.
And I think to myself, What a wonderful world: The colors of the rainbow.
THE END
THE END You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 1st, 1997.
art bell
Yes, yes, yes, we're here.
Hello, everybody.
Here's one from Alabama.
Art, don't forget the downside of polygamy, as it used to be practiced by the Mormons.
One man is expected to financially support multiple wives and all the children.
Think about how much money you've got left over at the end of the month with one wife.
Then try to imagine what it'd be like with five or ten.
unidentified
That comes from Birmingham, Alabama.
art bell
Absolutely right.
Even worse than that.
I mean, imagine the fifth or the tenth or the twentieth anniversary where you would give one wife a one-carat diamond ring.
Now, there are several ways that one could proceed with that thought.
That is, the one wife, of course, would be very happy.
The other wives would want your blood.
So, you would either have to give one carat diamond rings to all of them, no matter whether one was in reality a better wife than the other wife, just so that you wouldn't get poisoned.
So, one carat diamond rings would have to go to all of them, or you would give none of them a diamond ring on an anniversary, in which case all of them would try to poison you.
Uh, Once again, we are going to have a contest of sorts.
We are going to create a new graphic for the Art Bell webpage.
And that's the master graphic that goes up at the top of every page.
So, I know there's a lot of good graphic artists, computer graphic artists in Los Angeles and elsewhere listening.
Here's your chance.
If you would like to create it and send it off to Webmaster at artbell.com.
Webmaster at artbell.com.
You may see it up there.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Okay, um, I suspect that prediction time is over.
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Well, can I give you one even though it's over?
art bell
Oh, sure.
It will be an official prediction.
unidentified
Okay, my- oh, by the way, I'm David, Portland, Oregon.
art bell
Yes, David.
unidentified
And my prediction is Hillary Clinton will be charged or recited with contempt of Congress.
art bell
If such a thing should occur, what do you think the president would do?
unidentified
Um that's a tough call for him.
Yeah.
I don't know.
He obviously isn't forced to re he wouldn't be forced to resign.
He might have to.
art bell
No, he wouldn't be forced to resign.
But the question is, would he issue a pardon for his own life?
And if he did, well I guess you know it's his final term anyway, so that wouldn't matter.
But I mean it would be political suicide.
unidentified
He'd be in a tough spot.
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
But right now, you know, he's refused to talk about pardons for anybody.
art bell
I know.
The question is whether Hillary would be left swinging, twisting slowly in the wind, or whether he would come rushing to her aid with a pardon, ticking off everybody in the country.
I've wondered about that a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much for the call, sir.
Take care.
I really have wondered about that.
What a position to be in.
your very own wife charged with some serious offense.
unidentified
Hmm.
Hmm.
art bell
First time caller online.
You're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi, Art.
This is Troy.
art bell
Hi, Troy.
unidentified
Birmingham.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I just wanted to let you know that I'm a regular user on your FNet IRC channel.
Oh, yes.
art bell
Were you part of the big battle?
unidentified
Well, I was a little part of the big battle, but I really wasn't the one that got the channel back.
That was a different user.
But I just want to mention to you that you kind of antagonized them when you started talking about us getting it back, and they're going to start trying it again pretty soon.
art bell
Of course they will.
But I mean, we've got so many out there.
We've got an army.
unidentified
Right.
Well, I hope so, and I'm glad to be part of that army.
But I just wanted to let you know that.
art bell
I just thought it was a low-life thing to do.
unidentified
Oh, it really is.
And it's a real common thing.
And it happens a lot.
But hopefully, you know, it's not going to be a big problem.
art bell
Well, we can move large numbers of people on a moment's notice.
afraid that we just prove that point with my own shot room uh...
I crashed my own chat room.
I forget it said error 444 network disconnected.
It just, it stopped.
And I visualize this server out there in Southern California somewhere with smoke rising from it.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi, how's it going?
art bell
It's going.
unidentified
Oh, excellent.
My name is Chris.
I'm from Reading.
art bell
Hi, Chris.
unidentified
And there was the guy who called earlier about the dreams that the dream interpretation that you took kind of as a roundabout way.
I just wanted to say, well, if he's listening or anyone else, that about three or four times a year, I tend to have dreams, and about three months later, they become reality, like a deja vu.
art bell
And what dreams have you had, pray tell?
unidentified
It's mostly just common, everyday occurrences.
art bell
Nothing really spectacular.
unidentified
Nothing spectacular, except that a couple times I had a dream that a friend of mine and I were in a, we showed up at a place together.
And when I woke up that morning, I told him about it.
And I said, remember I told you about this?
art bell
Yeah.
unidentified
Because in about two or three months, it'll probably happen.
Frequent very much.
And he was there.
And when it happened, I had the deja vu experience.
And I said, hey, remember when I told you this a couple months ago?
And he said, hey, you're right.
So I kind of think maybe people are able to see a little bit into their future.
art bell
So is it going to rain six-legged frogs or what?
unidentified
Oh, I don't know about that, but if it comes to me in a dream and I walk outside my house and they're six-legged frogs, it might happen.
art bell
All right.
Well, do me a favor, and if you foresee anything of that magnitude, get to us right away.
unidentified
Okay, great.
art bell
Thank you.
That's what it would rain these days, right?
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, all right.
This is John in Greater Bay Area, California.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
We had this seismologist back in the last week in June, I believe.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
He had predicted scale, what was it, a scale 6, I believe, in San Francisco.
It was supposed to hit, I believe, July 4th or the first week of July.
art bell
I've had so many on predicting so much that I don't recall that specifically, but the reason why I did is because I had my little girl.
unidentified
She was coming up from Texas to visit me.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And she was supposed to come in July 4th, and I was kind of paranoid about it.
And so I was teasing her.
I says, well, yeah, I've been listening to this guy named Mark Bell, and he had this guy predict a big earthquake here.
She got real scared.
She didn't want to fly up.
So I kind of had to tone it down a little bit and tell her, well, you know, if I recall correctly, though, that guy did predict about 95% accuracy that this was going to happen in the first week of July.
art bell
Usually a seismologist would a seismologist or would not predict something like that.
unidentified
Oh, well, he did.
This guy was out of San Jose, and supposedly he had made a prediction before, and he was working for some institute.
art bell
You know what?
Now I'm beginning to remember.
Yes, I remember the seismologist.
I don't remember the prediction.
But we did have a seismologist on, and I'm trying to remember his name right now.
I should remember it.
But I don't recall that he made that prediction.
Now, I'm not a seismologist.
But I would be, if I were, if I were in the prediction business, I would predict there would be an earthquake soon in Northern California somewhere, where all the rain has come down, even Oregon, Washington, somewhere.
I think that a great deal of rain contributes to geologic instability.
It's just a theory.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Art, three quick points, if I may.
With more ultraviolet and X-rays reaching the upper atmosphere due to the thinning ozone layer.
I think we can expect more meteorological commotions as the ocean water heats up and the air rises and more cold air comes in, bringing rain and snow as we're getting here in the winter.
But the approach of not only rogue comets and asteroids, of which it's estimated there are over 30 trillion throughout the Milky Way resulting from the birth and death of stars, and also the displacement of stars due to solar collisions, which could send a rogue star system our way, impacting the ORT cloud as well, and displacing the jet stream.
And if the rogue system has an ORT cloud with up to 1,000 comets could enter the solar system, according to the Astronomy Magazine of this month.
art bell
A thousand comets.
unidentified
Yes, 1,000 comets, yes.
art bell
God, what a great title for a book, Night of a Thousand Comets.
unidentified
We have been sending letters for over 10 years to media personnel and government officials, copies of which I'd be happy to send to you to post on your webpage concerning such an eventuality.
Because it's not enough to depend upon a government that's able to act only after the fact with emergency funds.
We need to embark upon a more preventive measure.
And this people themselves will have to initiate.
art bell
So I guarantee you, if 1,000 comets hit the Earth, FEMA couldn't help at all.
unidentified
Some of the atmospheric anomalies of recent times may be due to an approaching rogue system, that is peripherals of an approaching rogue system, which could be such as the fireballs that we're seeing in increasing numbers.
And the approach of a higher order could also be in evidence.
So I think we need to be willing to make changes.
We need to listen, to broaden our concepts, to adopt new priorities, because far more than emergency funds are going to be required to provide the needed safeguards.
And this may be the very reason why we are seeing so many quote-unquote sightings of persons that are able and capable of assisting us through this period of trauma, which we are definitely going to go through.
art bell
All right.
Thank you very much.
That could be.
Heaven help us.
I would send that directly to the webmaster, Keith.
At webmaster at artbell.com.
Webmaster at artbell.com.
And if you have any spiffy artwork that you would like to submit for the new logo, that's the place to send it.
Webmaster at artbell.com.
He really likes to get a lot of emails, too, by the way.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Morning, Arc.
Hello.
This is Mike Glendale.
art bell
Hi, Mike.
unidentified
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on your earlier caller who wanted to predict a major earthquake in California, Southern California.
Yes.
And I think that's kind of a negative way to start out a new year.
And, you know, I don't, you know, I don't think that I'm going to make a prediction here.
I don't like to make predictions.
art bell
That's cool.
Everybody else does.
Why not you?
unidentified
But I predict that there's not going to be any major earthquakes in California.
I mean, back in 92, we had a possible major ground displacement, a possible crack in the continental shelf.
And I don't think that there's much more that, you know, that can be done.
But I would just recommend, I think that Mother Nature is in charge, and there's not a lot you can do about it.
And I've got a lot more trust in natural phenomenon such as rainbows.
I've got a lot more faith in rainbows than I do in conjectures, because I know a lot of people at Caltech, and they were packing their bags and getting all their survival gear, and oh, we're going to have a whole bunch of stuff.
art bell
I believe in rainbows.
unidentified
Yeah, and they were wrong.
They were absolutely wrong.
And it's easy to make conject predictions.
But when you have to make the call, do we evacuate?
Do we move people?
Do they stay?
Do we create a panic?
Do we do this?
Do we do that?
And you have to be exactly right in your decision.
It's not something that you can just call in and then walk away from.
art bell
Well, that's right.
unidentified
And I just think that I have a lot more faith in rainbows and Mother Nature and God, and maybe the guy might have something, but it's a really bad way to start out the new year.
art bell
People are always going to make those kind of predictions, and I think people take them in stride.
I mean, people have been predicting California earthquakes for as long as I've been alive.
unidentified
But I have learned, as far as earthquakes are concerned, that there are actually two different types of earthquakes.
There are those that go up and down and go back and forth.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
And, you know, and I think this, I don't know if we got hit by a jackhammer or what, but, you know, it's kind of I just have a lot of faith in rainbows because, I mean, all right, sir, I've done it.
art bell
I think you need not repeat it again.
I believe in rainbows, too.
I've seen them.
I've seen them.
Happens a lot when it rains and the sun's out.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello there.
art bell
No, you're not.
East, east, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Well, good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Good morning, Mr. Culler.
Where are you?
unidentified
Oh, this is Mike from Jacksonville, home of beautiful Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
art bell
Oh, my birthplace.
unidentified
Your birthplace.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Another tar heel.
And I would like to say Happy New Year from Toby, Missy, Callista, and Spot.
Toby is currently 15 pounds of tuxedo cat sitting in my lap.
art bell
Is Spot a dog?
unidentified
No, Spot is a pure white female kitten with one black spot directly between her ears.
art bell
I guess you can name a cat Spot.
It's a little, it's sort of heresy, but.
unidentified
Well, I mean, if Data could do it on Star Trek, why can't I?
art bell
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
I have just got through.
I wanted to make a comment on facts that you read at the very beginning of your show tonight about the state's rights.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And there has been talk here in the South as unusual as this may sound.
You know, Bill Clinton basically with his attack on the tobacco-producing state geographically recreated the Confederacy.
But you know, as I listened to your predictions the other night, several civil wars throughout the world were predicted.
I'm beginning to wonder if we're not about to see a revolution, civil war, whatever you want to call it here in America.
Think so?
art bell
Think it's possible?
Think it would be over tobacco?
unidentified
I don't think it would be over tobacco.
I think it would be over state's rights and individual rights.
art bell
Well, there is going to be trouble.
The federal government is making a big, big mistake with their reaction to this California-Arizona vote.
Really a big mistake.
And I'm really sorry to see it.
And their comments are, you know, this business about the voters being asleep at the Switch.
Very unfortunate.
unidentified
That would, were I one of those voters, I think I would be on the telephone, on the fax machine, letting those people know exactly how I felt about it.
But, you know, I'm very concerned about the way things are going, and I'm not at all, I won't be at all surprised if something does happen within the next year or so.
You know, I foresee that with Janet Reno's attack on the Fourth Amendment in front of the Supreme Court and a few of the other things that are going on.
art bell
All right, but here's the thing, sir.
We still live in a country, luckily, where redress is possible within the system.
Even though the system is now perverted and fouled up, and I realize the arrogance of power in Washington, but we still live in a system where you can change it within, where you don't have to resort to violent means to get your way.
unidentified
Let's hope so.
art bell
Yeah, well, I do.
I hope so.
Thank you very much.
And I do believe that, by the way.
You will know when that has changed.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Ah, Art.
I finally got a hold of you.
And it's great.
And you know what I heard?
What?
I heard, you've read Ender's Game, right?
Orson Scott Card.
art bell
Read what?
unidentified
Ender's Game.
art bell
Absolutely.
unidentified
One of my favorite.
I just went through my second reading in the entire series.
art bell
I'm going to have him on the air pretty soon.
Really?
yep i was just gonna i was like i Really?
And I was supposed to get back to him and set up an interview, and I haven't done it yet, but I will.
unidentified
I sent you an email with his mailing address, hoping you would do that.
art bell
Well, I did that.
I talked to him on the phone.
unidentified
Great.
Do you have any, you don't have a date yet, though?
art bell
No, but now that you've jogged me, I think one of the greatest books ever written was Speaker for the Dead.
Hmm.
You like to follow up Ender's game, huh?
unidentified
I actually liked Xenocide.
Uh-huh.
And he wrote a fourth one.
I don't know if you know that or not.
art bell
Which was?
No, that one I have not read.
unidentified
I recommend it.
I really recommend it.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
The series is, I mean, you probably already know, it's good.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Any more books about Ender have to be read?
art bell
There's no question about it.
unidentified
I agree with you.
art bell
All right, my friend, listen.
I'm afraid that my program appears to be ending.
unidentified
Does that mean I get the honors?
art bell
It does indeed.
unidentified
I am so happy.
art bell
Do it.
unidentified
Good night, America.
art bell
All right, that's it.
Good night, America.
Good night, Canada.
Good night, various other nations that are listening around the world.
And good night, Cosmos.
And it'll be cool to see what happens when the countdown ends.
unidentified
I'm sure it's just the stunt, everybody.
art bell
Y'all have a good night.
We'll see you tomorrow from the High Desert.
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