Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Robert Morningsky - Hale Bopp
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Robert, you're welcome.
There are a lot of people who thought you were dead.
Yes, and I'm very thankful that they are wrong, but I did get a lot of cards and a lot of letters and faxes because we did have an incident last summer that scared everybody, my family and myself.
Um, I'm still around, still, uh, getting into some trouble, but there are just some topics that I avoid.
But, uh, thank everybody who called and sent cards, and, uh, uh, I'm still here, thankfully.
The person who sent this fax put accident in quotes.
Do you still put it in quotes?
Uh, yes, I do.
Again, um, unless you want to, uh, talk about the incident, it was, it was scary.
The timing was highly coincidental.
Very briefly, again, we released the material on the Templar Knights based on some new material that was given to us from Europe, and I submitted a report to a magazine in Europe.
The package didn't get there, and within 48 hours, I found myself in an argument with an automobile, and the automobile won.
You've held a fairly low profile since then.
Absolutely.
I don't make public appearances anymore.
I only have two events scheduled this next year.
I survive through our works, our books, and the support of a lot of your listeners, as a matter of fact.
So, we don't make appearances.
Low profile, absolutely.
All right.
Tell the audience, if you would, because a lot of them don't know you now.
We have a big new audience.
A little bit about your background.
Well, I am full-blooded Native American.
I am half Hopi, half Apache.
I have spent most of my professional career as a dancer-performer.
I've had the good fortune to have a dance troupe.
I have performed with them in Australia, New Zealand, all over the United States.
I have personally been able to travel the United States, Mexico.
I've had the good fortune to appear in some movies, do some commercials.
So my career has been as a professional performer, as a dancer.
But the benefit of being able to do this is that I have been able to spend time with elders from different tribes as well as other indigenous peoples in Australia.
I was very fortunate to be able to spend time with Aborigine Elders and Maori Elders in some of their ceremonies and traditional events and this story of mine is rather lengthy but essentially my life as a performer has sustained my research and I think as a lot of your listeners have probably found themselves in the same situation
I've always wanted answers for myself.
Which religion, which way of life, which discipline has the answers and makes the most sense.
So my performance career has allowed me to interact with other elders, with indigenous peoples, and to continue my research into the world's oldest religion.
That was my ideal.
As a result, I have of course had to study Egyptian hieroglyphs, petroglyphs, cuneiforms.
I have traveled all over the Southwest examining petroglyphs, studying the cosmology of Native Americans and the Native peoples across the globe.
Basically, I must tell you and your listeners that while I am Native American, I do not speak For any tribe.
I'm not a representative.
I'm not an elder.
I'm not a shaman.
I have no status.
I am an individual.
I jokingly refer to myself as a nobody.
Not that I'm denigrating myself, but I frankly don't have the credibility and the credentials, perhaps, that some other researchers have.
But I am very proud of my work.
I will stand on it.
Many of your listeners, as I say, have been very supportive and very kind.
I am very proud of my family, what we have done.
It stands on its own.
My career has been as a dancer-performer, but my passion and where I am today is because of the research, trying to get answers out of very ancient records, and particularly the petroglyphs and symbology of the different religions across the globe.
I think that even though you may classify yourself as a nobody, you're not a nobody.
You have a public profile.
And I would imagine, for that reason, that Hopi, Apache elders, others, speak to you for that reason.
If they want to get word out, I would imagine they would consider you, at the very least, to be a way to do that.
I am very fortunate, yes.
I have contacts in Australia with Aborigines, New Zealand with Maoris, I do have contacts in the United States.
For a couple of years I worked with Encyclopedia Britannica and was able to travel the country with an exhibit, and so I do have contacts.
I'm very fortunate in that regard, yes.
Alright, a little bit of history of, for example, Hopi Prophecy.
How accurate has Hopi Prophecy been?
Well, that's one of the reasons that I'm here this evening, and again I have to thank you because as some of your listeners, and I'm very thankful that you remembered a while back I had on your program, Predicted that after the appearance of Hale-Bopp, that we should see a companion.
We should see yet another body, according to Hopi prophecy, that would be appearing sometime after this long-tailed comet.
And lo and behold, in the last couple of weeks or so, you have this phenomena of the companion.
There are numerous Hopi prophecies and prophecies from other Native American tribes as well, but the Hopi prophecies, which can be very specific, seem to be fulfilling themselves because of this comet, Hale-Bopp, and now because of its companion.
So the accuracy of the comet, excuse me, of the prophecies, I would say they're remarkably high.
So am I, and I can give you that one.
There's no question about it.
How long ago was it?
Was it about a year ago, it seems, that you made such a prediction?
Yes, it was shortly after the appearance of a hail bomb.
We had actually, in Australia, a couple of years earlier, I'm sorry, three years earlier, we had predicted that there would be a long-tail comet that would appear before the turn of the century.
That was just an estimate.
I had mixed emotions when the comet Hale-Bopp was announced to the world because, gee guys, you know, in our research we did it, family, and at the same time it's like, oh my god, guys, the hypotheses are real here, and so...
We predicted Hale-Bopp, or at least a long-tailed comet, years ago.
But then when Hale-Bopp appeared, the next step in the progression was a companion.
And so, yes, it was probably in August when we began to predict.
And I think it was in August when I spoke to you.
We predicted then that we should be seeing a companion sometime shortly thereafter.
Well, you're right.
There's been a raging controversy about this whole thing.
And I've got a number of photographs, quite a number now, up on the website.
I presume you've had an opportunity to see a few.
Yes, I've been following your website and the photographs quite carefully.
I just got the last set within the last couple of hours.
And I understand that you read a fax that I sent you yesterday, and I have to take a moment here just to say that on an intellectual level, I have to admit that there is a possibility that we are all wrong.
I'm not a professional astronomer.
I'm not out peering at the comet Hale-Bopp all the time, as some others may have the opportunity.
I am subject, as I think a lot of people, including yourself, we're subject to what we get from astronomers, amateur and or professional.
Exactly right.
And my facts to you, what I said was that if on a worst case scenario that you and Mr. Schrammach have made an error, and if it is an error, it was an honest error, but because of the announcement, because of what the two of you have done, I think that the world as a whole has taken a much closer look at the comet, Hale-Bopp, and this is absolutely, I think, a very significant heavenly body.
And so, Art, I thank you, and I thank Mr. Sramick.
Whether it is an error or not, I do believe that you are owed a gratitude and thanks for drawing our attention to the Hale-Bopp.
Having intellectually said that it is possible that you are both wrong.
Well, now let me stop you before you go on.
It's not just Chuck Schrammich and Art Bell.
It's about 10 separate photographs, maybe more than that now, from other sources, including the Hubble Telescope.
There's got to be at least 10 photographs up there, aside from Chuck Schrammix.
And you're correct.
The starting point, I believe...
For the companion phenomena had to have been Dr. Kramick and Mr. Bell.
And that's why I extend you the thanks because you started the ball rolling.
As I was going to say, having intellectually said you might have made a mistake, I also now have to say to you that having seen not only your photograph, but other photographic evidence from other websites and from other sources, I cannot see How anyone can say there isn't something there.
Precisely.
And I think the evidence speaks for itself.
I think I for one, I am caught.
Because I can't explain what is going on there.
I'm not a professional astronomer, but there is something there.
Now, hopefully sometime during the program I would like to present you a model that was given to us by a physicist in, of all places, India, who has given us a model that I suggest can explain what is going on with the comet Hale-Bopp and the companion, but I don't want to miss this point here.
You and Mr. Schrammich started, let's call it the controversy, but in that regard, I have to thank you, Art, and I have to thank Mr. Schrammich.
Now, I cannot see how anyone can deny that there is something out there.
We're getting too many sources, and even if Mr. Schrammich had made a horrendous mistake in the beginning, He opened the door, and that alone deserves gratitude.
I have to tell you, I felt so bad at the overwhelming response.
I mean, it was so vehement after he made his announcement.
I was not surprised that he was not able to be reached for a period of time.
My goodness!
It was almost as if he had trampled on the sacred ground of someone who believed he owned the comet.
I felt very badly about it, but I just want to give Mr. Sramick my thank you and my gratitude for opening the door to what I, again, suggest is a very significant event.
Very significant, indeed.
And even on the Hale-Bopp webpage itself, there is a photograph on our webpage now, along with all the others, of two identical, identically bright objects side by side.
And we pulled that from the Hale-Bopp website itself.
And it is one of many, many, many photographs.
That no matter how you feel about this controversy, you absolutely just can't ignore there is something there.
Now, it may be, there may be a perfectly good scientific explanation for why something is there in many photographs and not there in many other photographs.
I don't know what it is.
I just do a talk show.
I just know it's there.
Well, that's right, and I think that that's one of the contradictions of the people that are involved in, let us say, the other side, because there's something there even on their website.
The evidence is there.
I just, I am amazed at the retaliation that the two of you suffered, and I cannot say enough.
Thank you guys for getting the ball going.
Thank you very much.
All right, thank you.
Back in August, you predicted the companion, but there's a lot more to it than that.
Event one on your sheet, and I've got it here, the events of the procession.
The parade will begin with the appearance of the twins.
That's right.
Just very quickly for your listeners, what I tried to do for you was to essentially very simply put together, according to the Hopi prophecies, the progression of the heavenly bodies that our research indicates would occur.
The heavenly procession, as I termed it, does begin with a pair of twins.
The twins in both the Hopi prophecy and other southwestern tribes, there are many, many descriptions of who or what the twins are.
But the descriptions are relatively clear.
Two heavenly bodies who are twins.
My initial reaction when the comet Hyakutake appeared was that it was one of the twins.
And that the Comet Hale-Bopp, which was actually found just prior to, that the Comet Hale-Bopp, because of its extraordinary tail, because the tail just simply could not exist in the place that it was found, the physics and dynamics of comets, ...does not permit such a lengthy tail when it was discovered, so... Alright, in prophecy, we're looking for something called the long-tailed comet.
Now, I can say this.
Hale-Bopp, about April or so, if it fulfills expectations, could cover as much as one quarter of the sky.
Now that, by any measure, is a long-tailed comet.
That's correct, and so that is one of the first things that drew our attention to the comet Hale-Bopp.
It had an extraordinary long tail, and the long tail comet, I have in the past referred to it as the comet of prophecy, because it is the event that essentially sealed The prophecy.
It confirms that the progression, the procession, has actually begun.
And one of the Hopi prophecies, for example, describes quite lengthily the comet Hale-Bopp, excuse me, the long-tail comet, and how it should behave.
Certainly there are numerous anomalies about the comet Hale-Bopp.
From the supposed course corrections, whether they are internal or external, It has not acted like a natural comet.
It has not had some of the natural gases that we would expect in a comet.
They are not present.
It is far too bright in its orbit, in the position that it's at.
It is far too bright.
I'm sure that you have discussed these things over and over.
Many times.
But the anomalies and the mysteries about Hale-Bopp certainly have to draw our attention to this very mysterious long-tail comet.
And even in Hopi prophecy, and again I'm not a representative for the Hopi, this is my interpretation from my own experience in the research, the long- pardon me, the long-tailed comet is a comet that is also surrounded in great mystery.
All right, hold it right there.
Great mystery is where we'll pick it up.
My guest is Robert Morning Sky.
We're at the bottom of the hour and we'll be right back.
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♪♪ Back now, it is indeed an honor to have with us this
morning Native American Robert Morning Sky.
And we're going to talk about Hopi prophecy.
And I just want to say one thing, and that is there are many new photographs on the webpage.
Additional photographs and links to take a look at Hail Bop, and what we call Hail Mary, or the companion if you will.
So by all means, go up there and take a look.
Also, I just received a fax from Chuck Schrammich in Houston, listening to the program, and to Robert.
And he says, simply, please pass my thanks to Robert for the kind words.
By the way, there are photographs of Chuck Schrammich, who reminds me of me, on the webpage.
You will see him, a very young Chuck Schrammich, at his ham radio.
You will see an older Chuck Schrammich, and You will also see a photograph of the telescope that began all of this.
A very non-trivial telescope that Chuck has.
At any rate, back now to Robert Morning Sky.
Robert?
Yes, sir.
Thank you, and thank you very much, Mr. Ceramic.
I mean, I know what it's like to be on the receiving end, and so I just thank you very much for opening the door.
Very kind.
May I inquire, Robert, how Hopi prophecy is divined?
A lot of the rest of us out here don't know.
Well, that is one of the misnomers that, or at least one of the misconceptions, I'm sorry, That people have about particularly Hopi prophecy, it is truly not based on divining prophecy, excuse me, prediction, psychic ability, paranormal ability.
In fact, what we have discovered, and this is generally true for the prophecies of most of the ancients, is that prophecy is based on recognizing a pattern.
For example, if we were to present you with the pattern 2468, you should be able to predict the number 10, and that's because you've seen a pattern.
You bet.
Contrary to what a lot of our official scientists are saying, the ancient ones did record many events over thousands and thousands of years, and they have recognized a certain pattern.
So Hopi prophecy is based on the records of ancient ones, the Anasazi and others, who have predicted, or at least recorded in the past, A, B, C, now D, and they passed it on through the generations.
And so what we are looking at is not a psychic prediction, But rather the repeating of a pattern that was established thousands of years ago.
So essentially what I am saying is that the long-tailed comet, and at this point I am still persuaded that it is the comet Hale-Bopp, the long-tailed comet made an appearance many thousands of years ago.
It was preceded by the twins and then, you know, as the procession continues, Baha'u'llah and the Purifier.
So prophecy is based on recorded patterns Uh, and not necessarily psychic.
Now, I understand that there are, uh, some people who are aware of the ability of many, uh, medicine men and shamans to, uh, have vision.
That is altogether different.
Uh, Hopi prophecy have been written down, it's been recorded on stone, and is literally hundreds of years old.
So, it's, it's based on pattern.
Alright, well that, that's very important to understand because We have in our world Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the Sleeping Prophet, and it's important to know that Hopi prophecy is not arrived at, I won't use the word divine, arrived at in the same way, but is much like a study of history, really.
It's just history, and Gosh.
Dividing from history, the next logical occurrence.
Exactly.
It is, as a matter of fact, it is a form of ancient history of records and recognizing a mathematical or a series, a progression, a pattern.
All right.
After the long-tailed comet, Bahana The Great White Companion will appear with the Purifier.
Help me out with this one.
What does all that mean?
Well, the healthy prophecy, the basis of this prophecy is a relatively lengthy story that talks about two brothers.
Who are given the task of caring for the Hopi people and Earth in general.
The younger brother is ordered, instructed by the Great Spirit to remain behind with the Hopi people and with Earth, and to take care of it, and to measure his steps, to walk the land, to discover all there is to know about Mother Earth.
The older brother is instructed to go to a specific point, a specific destination.
Now, he is not given a task, only that he must go to this point, and as soon as he reaches it, he must immediately return.
That sentence alone, that statement, is very indicative of an orbit.
To go to a point and to immediately return suggests to me, at least, that this is a heavenly body with an orbit.
The return of this Great White Companion, and this is where I must tell you I do differ with the interpretation of some of the elders on the Hopi Reservation, and I do this with great respect.
I'm not trying to cause trouble, but it is my suggestion that the literal interpretation of Bahana is Great White Companion.
The general consensus of the Hopi elders now is that Bahana is literally a great white brother.
And they interpret it as a physical human being, a living, breathing person.
And in general, described to be the President of the United States.
So essentially, Mr. Clinton is the great white brother.
All right.
And it sounds amusing now that I say it.
Well, he just returned for another four.
Yes, well, he's a great white, but I'm not sure.
Yes, and the prophecy suggests that when the great white brother returns, when Baha'u'llah returns, that he would be accompanied by another figure known as the Purifier.
When he returns... Wouldn't be Al Gore, would it?
I can't touch that one.
I don't blame you.
When the Baha'u'llah returns, it is said that he would pause to find out what kind of reception he would receive from the younger brother and the Hopi people.
If the world would accept the Baha'u'llah and would treat him in the old way, that they would receive him in the traditional fashion, Then Bahana would return, there would be peace, there would be fruitful life, there would be essentially happiness forever.
However, should Bahana return, and in his pausing moment, Uh, should he find that the Hopi, that the people of Earth have lost their old ways, that they have lost connection with the tradition, then he would send the Purifier in to cleanse the Earth to eliminate the, in quotation marks, bad people.
Now, the Purifier, and I'm just giving you a very sketchy description, is to be recognized because he is going to be cloaked in red.
The prophecy doesn't specifically tell us that he is dressed in red, but that he is cloaked in red.
So, we have these two figures, the Purifier and Bahamut, who are supposed to manifest the Day of Purification.
Well, let me ask you this.
You are an observer of society, as I am.
Bahana is the one that will observe?
Yes, he is the one that's going to come back and make the decision as to whether or not the earth needs to be cleansed or not.
Bahana had to make his decision, or its decision, now.
How do you think things would go for us?
Well, you know, let me take a moment here.
Let me read you some of my notes on additional prophecies.
And let me let you and your listeners make a decision on what Baha'u'llah would do now.
Now, you're going to love this very, very first statement.
These are additional little corollaries within the Hopi prophecy.
And one of the signs of the end of time is that time will seem to move faster.
Now, I have to tell you, sir, that one of the first encounters that I had with you, we talked about the quickening.
You betcha.
And this is a definite signal.
It is spelled out very clearly in Hopi prophecy that this is exactly what would occur.
Time will seem to move faster.
I will again leave it to you and the listeners to decide whether or not this is occurring.
It almost does not require comment.
Exactly.
Another corollary.
Any major changes in nature are a sign of the end of time.
Now, these major changes could be things like the shifting of land, which means earthquakes.
Oh, by the way, as we go down the litany here, there was a 6.6 earthquake earlier today.
That's a big one.
In the mid-Atlantic, it is the second 6-plus earthquake in two days in the mid-Atlantic.
Along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge between Africa and South America.
In other words, are we experiencing things which are not natural?
Are we seeing something that, for example, seems to be mutations?
For example, the AIDS virus and these other things.
Let me give you one again.
Yesterday I read it here on the air.
A new bug Uh, Robert, that not only is resistant to penicillin, but eats it up, likes it, actually uses it and metabolizes penicillin as food.
That's a very difficult one for me to comment on, but again, it fits the scenario absolutely.
Well, let me continue.
Sure, I'll just stop you when I see specific evidence.
No, these are the kind of things that I really do appreciate both you and other people who are giving us these comments because we are trying to amass the evidence to say, look folks, here's the prophecy, here's what is happening, what do you think?
Interestingly, one of the corollaries in the prophecy says that the waters at the poles Will be released by two twin guardians.
And most certainly we've already begun experiencing the greenhouse effect.
There's a great deal of concern about the melting of the water at the poles.
We received a fax from an individual who said that a crack in the ice at the South Pole has been discovered.
It appears that it is breaking away.
Now that I have not heard.
Now you're dropping one on me.
A crack in the ice?
A crack in the ice at the South Pole has occurred.
It is wide enough, apparently, that you can float a ship through it.
And the ice is very slowly slipping into the waters.
Now, it does not look like it's going to float away.
It looks like it's just simply going to melt.
Now, actually, I did hear of some scientists, in fact, I had the radio transmissions, who were astounded at something that was going on at the South Pole with regard to the ice.
Exactly, exactly.
And we had a confirmation from two sources.
Um, what we need to consider if the prophecies are correct in suggesting that water will be released from the poles, um, again, your listeners probably have their own sources and I would suggest, uh, choose for yourself if you think this is happening.
One other little Mother Nature note here, and I wonder if you've heard about this.
Number one, all over the U.S., Canada, even Japan, they're finding deformed frogs.
Frogs with all kinds of extra legs and, um, Vlogs with eyes in their throat, that sort of horrible deformed thing.
And then there was a headline in the Las Vegas Review Journal about two or three weeks ago that said the carp in of all places, Lake Mead, which is the drinking supply for Las Vegas and much of Southern California down the line, Lake Mead has deformed carp.
Exactly, and I'm astounded.
I have to tell you, Arthur, so many times When we have been putting out these prophecies, we've been talking about it, we've made predictions in some of our appearances in the past, and they're coming to fruition, and the people are saying, what kind of psychic ability are you using?
What is happening?
Folks, this isn't psychic ability.
I am using the patterns, the very words, and the prophecies themselves.
We'll pop one more corollary out there.
The prophecy says that in the end times, when Baha'u'llah and the Purifier arrive, one of the things that will occur is that men in general, and now I've got to tell you that it specifically says men, men will ignore the words of the wise.
Regardless of whether The Wise is considered to be a book, a tradition, or simply experienced elders, I would suggest that we are getting further and further away from the respectful listening that we once showed to our elders, whether they be Native American or Euro-American.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, these things are happening.
There is another prophecy that says, when women are not respected, Then the end of time will come.
Now this is interpreted to mean that women will... As a matter of fact...
One of the elders is very clear.
He says what this means, Robert, is that the hemlines, the skirt lines, are going to keep rising and rising and rising.
We will see women being used as objects and certainly there are numerous cases from magazines, television, movies, etc.
Do we respect our women?
I'll leave that up again to the individuals who are listening.
But here's one that I found a little bit scary, and see if you can anticipate where I think this is going.
One of the prophecies says that men and women will be confused in their minds and hearts because of a mysterious fog or blanket.
Now, when I first heard on your program about the Harp Project and its potential Not just altering the atmosphere and creating unusual weather conditions and circumstances.
But because of the frequency used in heart, the very low frequency, which is known to affect the mental process.
Sure, it's not hard to go from there.
We'll be confused because of, read that again, because of... Okay, men and women will be confused in their minds and hearts Because of a mysterious fog or blanket.
Now certainly a blanket of electronic waves or particles qualifies.
The mysterious fog most certainly could be interpreted to be some of the end results of what this HAARP project is about.
So when I heard your program, when I first heard about HAARP, I thought, oh my God, here we go again.
Right.
These prophecies are being fulfilled.
Another corollary.
Children will be uncontrollable.
Oh, that's old news now.
Exactly.
Immorality and greed will be everywhere.
That might have been the 80s.
Well, exactly.
Now, if we continue, Some of the signs, some of the prophecies that precede the end times, they say things like human beings will have evil intentions in their hearts, they will become greedy, etc.
Those things, as you said, those are old times.
But one of the scariest prophecies for me was back in the 60s because I remember Grandfather David, I'm sorry, one of the Hopi elders talking about the prophecies and he said that Men's clothing would be taken over by women.
Women would start dressing like men.
And at the time, of course, that was absurd.
How could that possibly be?
Well, not only has that been fulfilled, but we have begun to see the reverse.
We have begun to see men dressing as women.
A very faint little corollary to the original prophecy.
In other words, the roles would be reversed.
And certainly now, men's cosmetics and anywhere from facelifts to... I mean, women have been getting implants for various things.
Now men are getting implants.
Implants in their calves, implants in their biceps, in their chest, to make them look more muscular.
And so, the role reversal has already begun.
One of the prophecies says that men will be able to speak through cobwebs.
Cobwebs?
Cobwebs.
And the moment that I heard, the net... It's like a big web.
You mean the web?
You mean the web?
The web.
We're talking about the internet.
Robert Morning Sky, hold on, take a break.
We'll be back to you after the top of the hour.
And don't forget, for the latest in photos of Hale-Bopp, it's the web at www.artbell.com.
That's www.artbell.com.
We'll be right back.
Back now to Robert Morning Sky in the middle of an absolutely fascinating discussion about
a procession.
And Robert, one other thing I would like to note that is very different this year is the weather.
Ask the people in nearly any part of the country, whether it's hurricane country, The Northwest, which has been plagued with flooding and snow in Spokane.
It's taken down lines.
Hundreds of thousands of people without power.
The Northeast is getting absolutely clobbered.
The weather has been absolutely strange.
Precisely.
And again, that's part of what the Hopi prophecies had called for.
An indication that we would be in the end times.
was that there would be very unusual changes in nature.
And certainly the weather fulfills the prophecy.
Certainly the malformations of frogs and carp and other events, unusual diseases.
Absolutely.
And again, I have such mixed emotions about this because we've been making these predictions.
Again, they're not mine.
They're based on the decipherment of processes on our research.
And we have mixed emotions because, oh, there's another one that's been fulfilled and vindicated.
And at the same time, it's like, oh my God, we were right.
I know.
It's one thing to talk of them.
Sometimes esoterically, I'm sure, and then it's another thing entirely to see them coming true.
Well, exactly, and again, thank you very much for letting me talk to you about the comet, Bob.
It is a very significant event in the heavens.
The procession that I have been trying to lay out for you this evening, and in the facts that I sent to you, essentially says that after the arrival of the twins, and when we see the long-tail comet, Um, and this is where I may have some difficulty, and perhaps your listeners have some insight, I do not, but the prophecy tells us that after the arrival of the Long-Tailed Comet, before the arrival of Baha'u'llah and the Purifier, and I'll talk about what they're going to do here in a little bit, but the prophecy suggests that there will be the seven seasons
Between the arrival of the Longtail and Bahama and the Purifier.
Now...
I have an interpretation that is very Native in its perspective.
I believe that seven seasons, as I was raised, as I was taught by my grandfather, that it meant seven hunting seasons or essentially seven years.
Right.
I believe that since it is a Hopi prophecy, excuse me, a Native prophecy, that it has or should have a Native perspective.
May I ask, before we move on, you said Hopi prophecy, then you corrected that to a Native American prophecy.
Is it just Hopi, or is this prophecy interwoven with other Native American tribes?
The basis of the prophecy is Hopi.
However, we have found that there are numerous parallels in other tribes throughout the Southwest.
And in fact, even down in Australia and with some of the Maoris down in New Zealand, just
this afternoon I was talking to a Navajo gentleman, a Dine, that's what they call themselves,
and we were talking about the disrespect for women and how it is very easily clear that
those things have occurred.
So I am trying to not ignore other native prophecies, but the foundation of our work
has been the Hopi prophecies.
And that's why in this particular regard I did say the native prophecy, because seven
seasons, I suggest, or at least I feel, is seven years.
Now, it has been pointed out Uh, that perhaps it meant seven quarters, summer, spring, winter, fall, etc.
In which case, if the comet Hale-Bopp is the long-tailed comet, and at this moment I am still persuaded that is the case, then perhaps as early as, let's see, seven seasons would be what about 20 months, give or take, That we then should see the second large white comet.
Well, I guess you could argue that Hale-Bopp might not be the long-tailed comet, but I don't think you could make an argument that it is not a long-tailed comet.
That's correct.
That's correct.
When I sent you the fax this afternoon and I presented the possible scenarios, as I said earlier, that I thought perhaps Comet Hyakutake was one of the twins.
In which case, we were anticipating there would be another comet that would appear between the arrival of Takutake and the comet Hale-Bopp.
However, on July the 23rd, when we have that extraordinary circumstance, and again it's documented, there are photos, there's hard copy on the Hale-Bopp site as well as yours and numerous others.
When the comet Hale-Bopp split into two pieces, When the photograph which talks about the mysterious eyes of Hale-Bopp, when I saw that photograph, I had to go back to the prophecy and look at it.
And I must tell you, the prophecy does not tell us how long a period of time there is between the arrival of the twins and the dance of the long-tailed comet.
It is most intriguing to look at Hale-Bopp and to see that on its approach towards the sun that it has become a pair of twins
it has fulfilled itself and that on its return um and it will do its dance in early april of
1997 i am most fascinated with this comment because it has it has been able to fulfill itself
it It is the Longtail Comet.
It is the twins.
It is the Mystery Comet.
It appears to have fulfilled all of these aspects.
Now, I find that a very curious coincidence.
However, I will also say that it is possible, as you pointed out, this is not THE Longtail, but A Longtail.
If there is a comet that will follow, let me give you this potential scenario.
We noticed that on April the 2nd, 1996, comet Hyakutake was in a position in the sky that was exactly, or will be exactly, where the comet Hale-Bopp will be On April the 2nd, 1997.
In other words, they will be within, I understand it's two minutes of arc, of the same point in the sky, exactly one year apart.
Wow.
Now, that speaks very strongly of the possibility that Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp are the twins.
If that's the case, We do not know then when the Longtail Comet will appear, but if it does...
It is going to make a show in the sky.
As you pointed out a minute ago, or a little while ago, that the comet Hale-Bopp is going to have an extraordinary tail when it makes its final showing.
Yes.
If comet Hale-Bopp is not the long-tailed comet, and I must say that's a possibility, though I believe the evidence suggests otherwise, but if it is not, we're going to see an enormous tail.
It has happened in the past.
Comets have appeared that have had extraordinary large tails.
But if Hale-Bopp is not the one, we are in for quite a show.
When?
There you've got me.
I don't know.
I am persuaded at the moment that the comet Hale-Bopp is the twins, and it is also the long-tail comet.
Again, time will probably not permit, but there are numerous other prophecies that begin to indicate, and I'm going to have to just very briefly mention that Part of the research of the confirmation of the Hopi prophecies required us to take a look at all of the circumstances around Hale-Bopp.
We had to take a look at the crop circles, for example.
I've been in contact with Busty Taylor and Colin Andrews.
We have taken a look at some of the petroglyphs in the Canyonlands of Utah and in Colorado.
We continue to find supporting evidence for the circumstances surrounding Hale-Bopp.
It is possible.
I must admit, it may not be, but it becomes almost daily overwhelming how close Hale-Bopp continues to be to the fulfillment of the Hopi prophecy.
All right.
Alan Hale and others, Alan Hale being the co-discoverer of the comment, has said, particularly Alan Hale, I guess, Uh, that as the comet grows closer, all of this mania will increase, and he thinks it's nothing but rumors and mythology, and frankly, a bunch of baloney, um, cooked up.
Literally, uh, he will say, cooked up, um, for, you know, whatever reason, sensationalist, uh, reason.
And I'm, I'm sure that you get some of that too, and I wonder how you would answer somebody like that.
I have been inundated with letters and phone calls and faxes with interpretations of what the comet Hale-Bopp is, and I'm sure that you have probably infinitely more numbers than I do.
However... Many, many.
I am trying to be very, very cautious here.
As I did a moment ago, and in this report that we're going to be issuing on the companion figure here on Friday, I am presenting the evidence and saying, folks, you take a look at it.
You make a call.
I will admit again, I am not an astronomer.
And as you and others, we are subject to what we are being told.
There are certainly extraordinary circumstances surrounding Hale-Bopp, which the astronomers, the professionals, including the Hale-Bopp people are telling us.
And we have extraordinary circumstances surrounding, and perhaps it's a coincidence, that the Hubble Telescope has not been studying the comet Hale-Bopp.
What an extraordinary event, and yet it's not being monitored, and if it is, I'm sure you heard it too.
Why have we not seen new photographs?
Why do we not have updates from something?
I mean, I would think that simply focusing and a handful of shots at the comet Hale-Bopp would once and for all lay to rest all of what is being said, but it isn't being done.
Well, at this point, it's dueling photographs.
I mean, some of the photographs of Hale-Bopp have shown Hellbah.
And that's it.
Exactly.
Clearly.
Other photographs, many now, have shown something else there.
So it's dueling photographs, that's what it's come down to.
Let me, if I may, I'm going to interrupt the progression here of the Hopi prophecies, and I want to present to you very briefly a scenario, a model that has been presented to us by a gentleman who, at the moment will remain unnamed, but presented a model to us that suggests how several of the possible anomalies and mysteries around Hale-Bopp Uh, are being handled by this model.
They answer it very clearly.
Alright.
Um, this particular gentleman has suggested, and again he is a physicist, that if you have a cluster of bodies that have a magnetic field around them, in other words, if you could imagine a cluster of grapes that have a magnetic field This comet, we already have several astronomers, professionals and observatories that are telling us that the comet Hale-Bopp is not only spinning on its axis, it is also tumbling.
So, it is falling forward and spinning.
Now, if there is a cluster of bodies in the comet Hale-Bopp, and a cluster could be as simple as four or five, What we would see is as this, again using the analogy of the great cluster, as it is turning there will be points at which perhaps
Numerous bodies of the great cluster face the sun, it would be brighter.
Yes.
If the cluster turns slightly sideways and there are fewer bodies, the cluster, the reflected light, would be smaller.
Or would be seen as one.
Or it could be seen as one.
And so, if we have a cluster, and again, I spent quite a bit of time on the phone this afternoon, if there is a cluster, and I am persuaded that there is, and a cluster could be simply four or five bodies, it may be dozens.
It is absolutely not unreasonable to expect that one grape on the cluster could have spun around for just a moment, 20 minutes or so according to the time that I've seen on the photograph, to produce the Mysteria V. It could be one little grape dangling from the cluster, fluttering back and forth behind the comet that Mr. Sramick saw, that some of these other people have seen.
Um, if you have a cluster and there is space between the bodies, the hitting of the cluster by solar wind and solar particles could cause extraordinary eruptions on the body.
We are certainly seeing that.
Yes.
And the the cluster model appears to satisfy or at least explain reasonably some of
the anomalies of the comet Hale-Bopp.
Well, it's one good theory, but sure as heck, Robert, there is something going on with that
comet.
Exactly.
The tale is in the pudding.
I mean, we've got photographs, so I don't think anybody can... Well, I guess they can, if they want.
At any rate, so we've got the comet, the long-tailed one, maybe, and Bahana.
Bahana.
Now, Bahana will look at us, according to Hopi prophecy.
Yes.
What the prophecy suggests is that seven seasons later, and again, my interpretation is seven years, Seven seasons later, we should see the arrival of the Great White Companion.
I am satisfied at the moment, I'll repeat, I'm satisfied that Hale-Bopp fulfills the long-tail comet with the evidence that we have, the data that we have.
The story tells us that the Great White Companion will pause prior to its arrival, its return to Earth.
Now, if this is the heavenly body, If this is a comet, what the stories are telling us is that that comet, that body, is going to stop in its trajectory, in its path towards the Earth.
I find that astounding.
I cannot, cannot begin to, for a moment, believe that that is describing a natural phenomenon.
The Purifier, which will come with the Great White Companion, will also pause and wait to see what the reception will be like on planet Earth.
Believe me, that will get everybody's attention if a couple of great things out there appear to head in our direction and stop.
Exactly, and so At the moment I do not believe, I cannot, because I do not have the powers and the abilities and skills that perhaps some other people that I have heard that have called into your program or contacted you, I cannot say that I see the comet Hale-Bopp as a spaceship, as a
Some sort of a massive mothership.
I can't deny it.
I won't deny it.
But it appears much more likely that we have a cluster of bodies.
Now, if I return to that thought just for a moment, that model does not work if the comet is composed of ice particles.
In other words, if the bodies are made up of ice.
This model will only work if the Clusters are probably iron content, nickel-iron content, and can hold a gravitational charge.
So the magnetic effect you were talking about?
Exactly, that's correct.
Now, if you can imagine this cluster, if each one of these little clusters has a magnetic field around it, and as it is twirling and spinning, this cluster, these bodies, let me oversimplify, if they rub together, the magnetic field would cause a discharge That has a very uniform motion to it.
This could be interpreted as radio signal.
And certainly we have heard that that is now becoming the case.
Sky and Telescope magazine has announced that they are getting radio signals from the comet Hale-Bopp.
So the cluster model can explain it now.
Do you have, by the way, you don't happen to have that issue of Sky and Telescope, do you?
I would have to look it up at the next break.
I can do that, certainly.
Well, the next break is now.
So if you happen to be able to find it, fine.
If not, we'll proceed.
But that is very interesting.
Thank you.
I have not heard that Sky and Telescope ...said the comment is producing radio signals.
Now, you know, I've heard that somewhere before.
I just know that I've heard that.
We're gonna break here.
Bottom of the hour, my guest is Native American Robert Morningsky.
Stay right where you are.
Alright, Robert Morningsky coming back now.
Somebody just sent me this, an old Montana Indian tale.
Each year, an Indian who lived in the mountains would come down and announce to the local farmers how bad the winter was going to be.
One year, the sage old man predicted a particularly long and hard winter to come.
One of the locals went to him and asked, Please tell me, how are you able to predict the weather is going to be so bad with such accuracy?
To which the Montana Indian man replied, White man put up many snow fences this year.
I take it that is not the basis, but in a way it is, isn't it?
Again, Hopi prophecy is derived not from somebody who went into a trance some long time ago, but by history repeating itself.
That's correct, yes, exactly.
Alright.
Now, back to the prophecy itself.
Bahanna, the purifier?
The purifier sounds a little ominous.
Yes, it's a pretty scary event.
I mean, the possibilities in the healthy prophecy go either way.
Again, it depends on how the Bahanna, how the older brother is going to be received, but the purifier, should Bahamut
not be pleased, it is said that the purifier would descend on the earth and eliminate
all those who are, again in quotation marks, all those who are bad.
And so, and actually the prophecy, I have to say, continues on after that, because it
is said that should Bahamut not, should he not complete his mission for whatever reason,
Should the Purifier be unable to complete his mission for whatever reason?
Then we have another possibility, and it very clearly states, the prophecy states, that we should look for a black-haired man from the West.
He will be recognized because of the cut of his hair, the shape of his hair.
He will also be recognized by the shape of his abode, of his dwelling.
The black-haired man from the West would be accompanied by multitudes.
There would be numerous individuals who would accompany this black-haired man.
They would, according to the prophecy, they would overrun the Earth.
And should this occur, then the Great Spirit would descend, and He would once and for all cleanse the Earth again with a massive flood, and that would be the end of the fourth world.
So, Bahana and the Purifier We'll cleanse the earth of that which is bad.
All right, if I can, let's back up for a second to Purifier.
If Purifier is sicked on us, and I think of Purifier as sort of a bulldog or something, that Bahana is going to look down upon us and sort of judge how things are going.
And I would have to say things, at least at the moment, are not going real well.
So if Purifier is called, what will Purifier do?
Okay, in the aspect about the Purifier, number one, we are told in the prophecies we would recognize the Purifier because he will be cloaked in red.
He will wear a red cap or a red cloak.
Certainly, if this is a heavenly body, we can begin to project a comet that has a red aura or a red color to it.
A comet, Hyakutake, for example, very clearly showed a bluish-green tinge, but the purifier will be red, excuse me, red-cloaked.
He will have tremendous power.
The prophecy says that all of the power of the world would be turned over to him in one day.
Now, I do not know if that means surrender, or if he will simply step in and take control of all the weapons, of all the armaments of planet Earth, whatever those powers might be.
The Purifier, and again, there's another sub-corollary to this, the Purifier, it is said, would be accompanied by two, in quotation marks, great ones, and these great ones, one would wear the symbol of the sun, One would wear the symbol of the swastika.
Wow.
Exactly.
I mean, the interpretation by some of the elders is that the two great ones that would, and the prophecy says that they will hold, grab hold of the earth, and that they would shake the earth at least four times.
They would make everything rumble and tumble and shake.
Part of the prophecy has been interpreted, this part, has been interpreted by some Hopi elders to mean the swastika, Nazi Germany, and the sun, the rising sun of Japan.
And most certainly, they just recently, I shouldn't say recently, but about 50 years ago shook up the world in World War II.
It is, according to some interpretations I've heard by some of the elders, it is possible that World War II was one of those episodes in which the sun and the swastika shake up the earth.
The two great ones who accompany the purifier, we are not clear as to the precise time frame.
That's one of the difficulties with the prophecy.
Again, there's so many pieces to this and I want to be very fair to both the prophecy and to your listeners.
One of the indications that the purification day is about to occur, it is said in the prophecy that there will be a day when the stars, or when certain stars, line up.
Now, it is my understanding that And correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm sure one of your listeners know, isn't there about to be a lineup of the planets in the year, somewhere 2000, 2001, 2002?
That is correct.
I think it's, I think that it's 2001, but I'm not sure.
Yes, and so one of the signs of the Purification Day is that these stars will line up in the sky.
It is also said that a halo will appear around heavenly bodies.
Now, I interpret this to mean that when you look up into the heavens that you will see something similar to the sun dog or those auras that we see when the skies get polluted.
Yes.
I would suggest that again, that seems to be fulfilled.
We are seeing halos around the sun, around the moon, and I directly attribute it to pollution.
It is also very clear, the prophecy is very clear in that it says that we will see this halo appear around the sun for distinct times.
Now, whether that is the corona from an eclipse, Whether that is the aura that we saw, for example, in the volcano in the Philippines that exploded and polluted the air.
The same thing occurred when Mount St.
Helens exploded and we saw the ring around the sun then.
It is possible, and I think I can count at least three incidents where there appears to have been a halo around the sun.
There is an Aztec prophecy, and I'm going to skip over a moment to South America.
There is an Aztec prophecy that is very clear in that it says that a serpent with a very long tail will appear in the end of time.
That, in and of itself, again, begins to indicate the long-tailed comet.
And this is the one that is perhaps most difficult to decipher at the moment.
The prophecy tells us, the Hopi prophecy tells us, that warriors will descend from the sky in the West.
Their function is to liberate the Hopi and the good people from the clutches of evil.
Now, warriors will descend from the sky in the West.
That one has been giving us, and I say us because I'm talking about my family and I, we've been having a little bit of difficulty trying to decipher that one.
It is very likely, very specific occurrence.
Now, whether that means an invasion, whether that means, in other words, an ID4 or Mars Attach or something.
Strange, that's exactly what I was thinking about.
Yes.
Is it possible that this phenomenal movie, ID4, is it somehow... I don't know.
Hollywood prophecy, Robert.
Yes, but certainly everybody is now aware of warriors defending from the sky.
Gee, I don't know.
There was only, Robert, one unrealistic part of that movie, ID4, you know, that we want.
Yes, well, you're beginning to sound very much like a renegade.
I've gotten in a lot of trouble recently for not portraying the extraterrestrials that seem to be present amongst us.
I got in a lot of trouble for not portraying them as benevolent beings, but I'm on your side.
I really don't care.
I'm in so much trouble now, all the time, that it doesn't matter.
My middle name is trouble, so what do I have to lose?
I'm convinced that there's at least a 50-50 possibility that whoever they are, they're not friendly at all.
And in fact, all of history says That if we encounter a lesser people, we have in almost every circumstance treated them shabbily, enslaved them, or otherwise generally done them in.
And I can't see why that would not be true if some superior intelligence or intellect or whatever came to Earth.
You know, I have to thank you again, Art.
I cannot say how much I appreciate your existence on this planet, because I recently, back in October, I issued a statement in which I challenged that very basic premise, but wisely or wrongly, I did it at a UFO convention, and I said, look, ladies and gentlemen, how can you possibly assume That these beings who are either on their way or are here, how can you make the assumption that they're benevolent?
Because let me tell you folks, I come from a culture.
I come from a world where we greeted with open arms and assumed that the beings appearing on the eastern shores were benevolent.
And genocide, the decimation of a culture and a society is, you know, what occurred.
We cannot go into an experience with other beings as you described, Art.
We cannot do that, assuming they're good guys.
Ladies and gentlemen, for those of you listening, 200 years ago and earlier, The primitives of this world, the warriors, the good people of this continent accepted without question, and with open arms, the benevolent beings with the superior technology on the eastern shores, and look what happened to us.
And look what happened, and again, go to ID4.
Let me remind you, up to and including the moment when buildings began to explode, killing zillions of people, People are up on top of buildings saying, welcome, beam me up Scotty, I want to be part of this, take me to your planet, all the rest of it.
Well, they were the first ones to get blasted in a way they got their wish.
Exactly, and I would suggest that we who call ourselves Americans, we who are part of this planet, global citizens, should not lay down our arms and blindly accept any being who shows up as benevolent.
I am so amazed that that is such a major part of the UFO lecture circuit in general, and I thank you for agreeing with me.
I got so much trouble.
Gee, we're going to have to sit down on these days and commiserate or celebrate our renegadehood there, Art.
Well, look, you know, if you're the same, who can tell the difference between you and everybody else?
Yeah, exactly.
Now, a lot of people are going to have questions.
Indeed, my phone lines are locked up solidly.
But we really ought to go ahead and try and make it through as much of this as we can.
In other words, we've arrived at the black-haired one who doesn't sound good at all.
But there's even more, isn't there?
There's considerably more.
And again, there are numerous corollaries.
I've been trying to give you as many of the pieces as I possibly can.
We could probably be on for hours and hours.
But essentially, what is being suggested to us in the Hopi prophecy is that the arrival of the long-tailed comet, the arrival of Bahama and the Purifier are guided Whether one calls it divinely or extraterrestrial, the great spirit, whatever one chooses to use.
What I am going to suggest and what the prophecies are saying, and I am very impressed with what I have read just this evening to you.
What I am suggesting is that there seems to be direction behind the comet Hale-Bopp.
There seems to be direction between the oncoming bodies.
There seems to be extraordinary circumstances behind the events that we are experiencing.
Now, just, and we could go on with this, but on the day that the comet Hale-Bopp was announced to the planet, on July the 23rd, 1995, The comet was heralded throughout the planet.
Now, back then, right afterwards, when you and I spoke back last summer, I suggested
that the comet Hale-Bopp was very likely the long-tailed comet.
Now, in healthy prophecy, the spirit of the long-tailed comet, the chasing star, Nangasauhu,
is recognized because he has a four-armed star on his face.
This is the sign of the comet of prophecy, the long-tailed comet, the blue star, using
my terminology.
Would you believe that on July the 23rd, 1995, only one crop circle appeared in England?
It was a very simple round circle with a four-armed star in the center.
No kidding?
I find that more than a coincidence.
If you have a moment, let me give you some of the ancient Roman and Egyptian prophecies that again begin to, I believe, herald the comet Hale-Bopp.
Alright, well I do want to get to that, and I want to get to the Bible as well, but I want to ask you, before we get to the top of the hour, Were you able to locate the Sky and Telescope by any chance?
I believe my little brother Mike took it, and I don't have it.
I really, I hope I have not misquoted the magazine.
I will try and chase it down this evening.
If not, first thing in the morning, I will fax you the issue and the quote.
All right, well, in the meantime, somebody in the audience, please fax it to me, and we'll have it in minutes.
Great.
All right.
There's a lot going on with Egypt.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, we're all kind of being held in suspense right now about what may have occurred or perhaps did not occur at Giza around the 5th of December.
There was supposed to be some kind of an opening and there's a deafening silence coming from Egypt right now and all my sources are dry and nobody can tell me a thing.
But where are the parallels between Hopi prophecy and what we have learned over the years from Egypt?
Okay.
I'm glad that you said that you couldn't get anything either, because we have been desperately trying to get some sort of information.
Nothing is happening.
Nothing is coming out.
I find that, again, very curious.
However, Egyptian prophecies, and essentially the description of the cycles of time, because they too, as other native peoples, they speak about cycles.
They speak about repetitions or patterns.
Sure.
One of the predictions that we have made about, for example, the pyramids and the sphinx, years ago when we were in Australia, we were suggesting that what they are going to find is that the pyramids and the sphinx, including several other Egyptian structures, as yet uncovered.
That they would be oriented towards the stars of Orion.
Now, we have already had plenty of evidence to support that.
There's no need to rehash that.
But one of the predictions we're making, for example, about the chambers in the pyramid, the larger chamber which we have accepted as the King's Chamber, We're predicting that they are going to find evidence that it is not the King's Chamber, but the Queen's Chamber.
We are suggesting that what they are going to find under the Sphinx, if there are records, and at the moment I have a suspicion that they have already been removed, but I suspect that if the records are located, if there are any glyphs, any markings, they will once again indicate one of two things, an orientation towards the stars of Orion, An orientation towards a queen, a female.
If you only knew how that's ringing bells out there.
Robert, we're at the top of the hour and when we come back, shortly after we come back, I would like to be able to get into the phones because a million people have questions for you.
Can you hang in there for that?
Oh, certainly.
I'm enjoying myself.
Thank you, Art.
All right, wonderful.
My guest is Native American Robert Morning Sky.
And he'll be back in a moment.
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Alright, my guest is Robert Morningsky, Native American, Robert Morningsky.
And we have laid out for you in the last two hours Hopi prophecy as it surrounds, possibly, Comet Hale-Bopp.
And what seems to be with it.
And here once again is Robert Morning Sky.
And I want to go down just a couple of other avenues and then we'll go to the phones.
One is Egypt.
We were beginning to get started with Egypt.
And what parallels, if any, do you see between Egyptian prophecy and Hopi prophecy?
Okay, thank you.
Again, in Egypt, I made a couple of predictions earlier, but let me very quickly go into a very significant figure in the repetitious cycles of ancient Egypt.
There appears to be a figure that continues to surface.
It is known as Sefeh.
S-E-F-E-K-H.
Sefeh.
And it is literally a snail.
If you can imagine a very kind of cartoonish figure, you have a snail with a chubby little body, a little head with a little line attaching the neck that attaches the head to the body.
Right.
There are two antennae with two little knobs at the end of the antennae.
And then at the tail end, you have a little round knob on the tail.
We have found that this snail is a figure that is very likely describing, again, the procession.
The two twins are the antennae knob.
The head is very likely the long-tailed.
The second larger circle, which is the body of the snail, is probably the hana.
And the little knob on the tail is very likely the purifier.
Now, how do we come to this conclusion?
The snail, besides being a relatively important figure, again it depends on the individual as to whether or not they assign it any significance, but we find that the snail represents the number 7.
Literally the number 7.
We again are suggesting that that ties directly into the 7 seasons, or the 7 years between the arrival of the long tail and the figure of the Hana.
One of the things that has now come out into the open about crop circles, one of those old proofs, as it were, that a crop circle was a legitimate phenomena, was that the circles of most of the formations Had seven concentric rings, seven or nine, but generally seven concentric rings in the body.
Again, we're drawn back to the number seven.
Anybody who has been following the crop circle phenomena will know that in the last two years or so, there have been an extraordinary number of snails, very clearly snails, with the head, the body, and the antenna that have been appearing.
Um, the other probably clearest, and I want to do this very quickly because I know that we've got time constraints.
One of the healthy prophecies very clearly says that a female with a horned head covering will appear at the end of time.
Now, she is sometimes known as the horned toad woman, but she will be recognized because she has a crown that has horns on it.
If we go back to ancient Egypt, once again, if we go back to both Samaria and Babylonia, we will find that the headdress that originally was the crown that represented royalty was the crown of horns.
So we have a Hoki prophecy, and again we don't have the time to elaborate on the horned woman,
but she plays a very significant part in the end days.
It is a sign of, a symbol of royalty, regalness and powers in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia and
Babylonia.
We find numerous instances where women play an integral part in the end times in Egypt,
with ancient civilizations, even in some of the primitive societies, and I love the word
primitive, I don't mean to denigrate, the Maoris, the Aborigines, the Hopi, even in
the Dogon, in some of the African tribes.
Well, Robert, I'm not surprised.
Women had an integral part of the beginning, and so then why not of the end?
Well, it would make sense.
I am the beginning and I am the end.
And again, I mean, we're just recently just completed another series of books, excuse me, of tapes in which we're describing the earliest religion that we have uncovered on this planet.
is a religion that is oriented towards a mother goddess.
Now, please excuse me to your listeners and everyone, I am not a nicest mother goddess follower. I
am not in any way going to tie myself into most of what I see out there. But I am going to
suggest that the oldest religion found in ancient Egypt, even in the North American
continent, even down in Australia, the oldest religion seems to be, I am sorry, let me correct
that, it is a mother goddess oriented religion. The oldest religious artifacts are
female goddess oriented. We did a very and we, me and my family, have done a relatively extensive
study of the linguistics of some of the breakdown of the languages and we find that most of
the words are oriented, once again, towards the women.
Hopi prophecy in general suggests we are coming to a very significant point, a change in the way things are.
And it is relatively clear that between the Hopi, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, and other cultures, that women play a significant role in the unveiling of the events to come.
Well, I would only say that it figures.
Robert, I do want to get to the lines, if we can, but one last question.
And that involves the way the Bible looks at the last days, or the end times, versus the way the Hopi look at it.
Do you see parallels there?
Oh, absolutely.
Because, again, probably the clearest and most dramatic correlation is that the return of the long-tailed comet, the chasing
star, Nangasahu, the blue star, Kachina, one of the ways in which it will be recognized is that it
will have a four-armed star on its face.
I can easily see this interpreted as the Christian cross.
The return of the divinity will be signaled by the cross that appears in the heavens.
I think one only needs to go through revelations and compare that to some of the list of which I have just recently read you, and the parallels are more than astonishing.
They're very, very similar.
And I think if you were to look at some of the parallel revelations in some of the other religions of the planet, you'll probably find the very same thing.
When you unwind all this as you have this evening, people have a tendency, I think, in the modern day world, Robert, to ignore this kind of thing.
And it's easier to ignore in the modern world for a majority of the people.
And that in itself is a sign, I believe, that people are no longer listening to ancient wisdom.
We're ignoring the lessons of history and it's sad to say that that's probably true.
I know that I am just turning the half century mark here, and I'm finding that even the two
or three generations of young folk that are here are ignoring the history, the lessons
that we learned in World War II, and even in Vietnam.
There are young folks out there who are voting, who have families, who are trying to conduct
their lives, who truly have, if any, they have a vague memory of what occurred in Vietnam.
Most of them don't know what happened in World War II.
And so even in our own brief lifetimes, we can see that the lessons of history are either
being ignored or they're just not valid, they're just not important enough, and there's that
old cliche that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
And that's precisely why I am hoping that we can put this information out and say, look, these are what the documents tell us, these are what the records say, You make the choice, folks, because my family and I, we're preparing.
We have some ideas of what's going to happen.
We could probably, as I say, go on for hours.
Well, maybe we will, but I want to say this to you.
I'm in a chat room right now on America Online in their grassy, old chat room in the Periscope area, and somebody typed a little while ago all this stuff that your Robert Morning Sky is saying.
I'm about to get you killed.
Well, I don't intend to go out for an evening jog again like I did last summer.
I'm not going to get into any arguments with any automobiles.
Certainly there are some topics that I will not discuss.
Like what?
Yes, like what?
That's what you're going to ask me, like what?
There are some topics that are politically sensitive.
I am sure that there have been individuals on your program and other researchers who are aware that these prophecies are being fulfilled quite literally and deliberately.
I am again going to, and I would love to be able to have the time to discuss the number 23 and its connection with the comet Hale-Bopp, if time permits.
I suggest again, there is a very deliberate, there is a plan behind what is happening.
I am not suggesting that we have a New World Order or some sort of a conspiracy.
I am saying that what the ancients talked about long ago, the Egyptians, the Anasazi, the Dogon, and others, they have told us that they were visited by star beings.
They have told us that they have been influenced by divine beings.
And I am simply suggesting that everything that they have, excuse me, most of what they have told us is happening once again.
And all I can do is, is my family and I are simply trying to say, folks, you take a look, you make a decision.
But I would also strongly advise, watch the primitives.
Watch what the primitive peoples of this planet are doing.
All right, well then, I've got to ask you about one more thing.
Some fairly primitive people on this planet are Australian Aborigines, and I understand that you have been consulting with them as you have Hopi elders.
That's correct.
What have you learned there?
Well, the stories in Aboriginal Australia are extraordinarily close. They have been recently trying
to decide whether or not they would come forward with some of the knowledge, some of the
wisdom that they have had. I'm fortunate to have met a woman, an elder woman, Lorraine Mothby
Williams, who has at some considerable risk to herself because the political turmoil
in Australia is not perhaps as stable as it is here.
They still have young aborigine men who are found hung in their cells.
They committed suicide while their hands and feet are tied behind their back.
So without getting into the politics of it, it's a little more difficult to talk about the kind of things I'm talking about In a relatively more conservative society, but they are pondering whether or not to talk about these prophecies.
I will tell you that this very afternoon I had a conversation with a local television station, a gentleman who wants to put part of this story on the air, and the loudest voice was Another Hopi individual who believes that these words, these prophecies, what I'm talking about, should not be shared because they belong to the Hopi.
I find that very disappointing because to say that a non-Hopi would not understand because they are not Hopi is the same as saying He's not a white man, so he's not going to understand the white man's ways.
Some will not understand.
Clearly, Robert, some will not.
Well, that's true, but it's reverse prejudice.
And, you know, I'm very fortunate to be here.
We did have an argument with an automobile.
I do believe the term accident should be in quotation marks.
But you and myself and other people who are truly trying to explore the truth, We find ourselves at risk, but there's only one reason why you continue.
Because it's right.
We may make mistakes.
We may make errors in our judgment.
But at least we can... There's an old Native American tradition.
Anyone who has seen the movie Little Big Man might remember when Chief Dan George at the end of the movie goes out.
And he challenges death and he raises his staff of life to the heavens and he challenges death to come out and to fight him this one last time.
And he says, it is a good day to die.
Now that's not wishful thinking.
That's not a death wish.
That is simply saying, you know, I did everything I could.
I have a four year old little girl and I want to be able to look her in the eyes when the Bahama appears.
I want to be able to tell her, daughter, I did everything I could to tell them.
I may have made mistakes, but daughter, I tried.
History, as far as I'm concerned, is not going to repeat itself in my family and with those I care about.
We need to explore every single avenue.
We must not be so civilized that we refuse to explore these possibilities.
My apologies, and I hope that I don't sound like I'm in a soapbox, but thank you, Art Bell, for being a renegade.
Thank you, Mr. Sramick.
Thank you to all the individuals who are trying to tell what they know.
And thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, for listening to me in the last few minutes.
All right, well, here come some of the ladies and gentlemen.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hi.
Good morning.
Good morning sir.
I want to first say that neither one of you are in trouble with me.
Well where is me?
Where are you?
My name is Marco and I'm calling from Michigan.
Alright.
First I have a statement and then I have a question.
There's another prophecy in the Christian Bible that goes right along with the purifier.
It's mentioned that there would be blood on the moon.
Before the end time.
Gee, you mean the moon would be cloaked in red?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Fascinating.
And, uh, Art, a couple of days ago, one of your guests, I don't remember who, mentioned the possibility of a gravity wave following, um, the comet.
That's right.
And I was wondering if that could be, uh, linked to taking the power of the world.
If this wave does hit the Earth, we're gonna have planes falling out of the sky, motors may stop, Because of magnetic fluctuations, things like that.
Well, I don't know.
I guess it could be.
I appreciate the call and the comment.
We did indeed have a guest who said something exactly like that.
All right, Robert, what I would like to do is concentrate as much as we're able on the phones and see what people have to say, see how carefully they are listening.
So when we come back, we'll do exactly that.
My guest is Native American Robert Morningsky, half Hopi, Half Apache.
Briefly, here's a question from Linda in Riverside, California.
Art, could you please have Robert Morning Sky tell the audience the name or names of his books and the publisher?
I don't even know whether you've written anything, Robert, have you?
Yes, I have.
I've written four books and we have a series of audio tapes we released and several Videos of some of the appearances that we have made in the past.
So we do have plenty of material available.
As a matter of fact, we're issuing a brand new audio tape every week.
Updates on the new material and some of the events that are coming.
Okay, how do they get it?
Easiest way is to give us a phone call.
My family is always here.
We have a message machine.
Should we not be awake, give us a call.
It's area code 602-404-8050 or area code 602-404-8094.
So they have two lines that they can give us a call in case either one is busy.
And my daughters would be happy to send them information or give them updates on all these newest releases.
I'm working right now on an audio tape on specifically the Hale-Bopp Companion in which we try to sum up some of the prophecies that we've been talking about this evening and we provide a transcript with the sources, reference material where they can look up some of these Hopi prophecies.
They can, you know, Take a look at them and see if they have a different decipherment and see what they can do with the information.
All right.
For my own good and yours, I need to give these numbers again.
Correct me if I got it wrong.
Area code 602-404-8050.
That's number one.
Right?
That's correct.
All right.
That's number one, right?
That's correct.
Alright. Phone number two is area code 602-404-80...
That's correct.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You bet.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hello.
Hello, this is Eric calling from Los Angeles.
Good to hear you.
Very, very fascinating stuff.
I'm sure you and just about everyone else out there does.
A couple of comments culminating in a question.
Before I get to that, I'd like to touch on Egypt for a second.
I was recently at a Graham Hancock lecture in LA, and Graham gave an update saying that he was aware.
He had mentioned that, from what I remember, that some people from a university in the eastern part of the United States.
Florida, Florida.
Oh, Florida, okay.
Were going to be going into Giza, and that he believed that there were several chambers that were apparently found.
And that someone was going to go in and see something, and that apparently from radar scans taken, that the chambers did not appear to be empty.
That they appeared to have some kind of consistency to the insides, which seemed to be very fascinating.
And after the lecture, I had met somebody who had said that he was going to be going over there, a man who is the kind of guy who does not like to publish his findings, but apparently has been doing research on Many different things relating to the pyramids in Giza for a long time.
And he had also mentioned that something interesting was going to be going on in Egypt there.
Anyway, I don't know if that's any help.
I think we're all just waiting to hear something solid.
On to the stuff about the cosmic stuff going on with Hale-Bopp and all the other prophecies and stuff.
Interesting stuff.
I'm wondering, Robert Morning Sky, if you believe there may be any connection To what we're seeing in the skies and what we may be expecting to see in the skies in other different kinds of appearances unrelated to Hale-Bopp in the future of planetary catastrophism, or if you're aware of that study, Emmanuel Velikovsky kind of seemed to kick that off.
and other recent writers such as a man named Donald Patton who has written several books
who has actually been quoted by another Native American author Vine Delora Jr. in several books
relating to prophecies. I wonder if you believe there may be any connection.
Well, recently I was invited to do a television program in which I began to very lightly touch
nowhere near to the extent that I've been able to do this evening and I was immediately labeled
by the program's producers as a profit of doom and gloom.
In fact, I do not see that at all.
The prophecies suggest that only if we are not one with the old ways, which certainly a case can be made for that, that there would be a cleansing.
Frankly, I hear so many people that are saying, number one, the comet's going to collide with Earth.
We have absolutely no evidence to suggest that.
Quite the contrary, it is very clear that it's going to miss the Earth, unless there is a deliberate changing, of course.
I think, yes, that some of the information that Mr. Velikovsky has presented has a great deal of substance and merit to it.
I don't believe that the universe, and particularly our solar system, is as stable as some of our scientists have portrayed it.
Oh, absolutely not.
As a matter of fact, an article in Science News, Volume No.
4, 141, February 22, 1992, was an article called Chaos and the Clockwork, which basically actually finally, for the first time, That many people have been aware of that actual official astronomers with credentials have actually come out and said the solar system is not necessarily as stable as we want to think and that it seems to be holding together by a thread.
And one of many different things could set off some severe cosmic ramifications, which would obviously include Earth.
Um, you know, a number of many things could set it off.
It's quite a delicate balance.
Well, I think that's absolutely true.
I agree with everything you said, and as I said, Mr. Velikovsky, and I'm certain some of the ones that you have just quoted, we're basically saying the same thing.
I'm suggesting that the comment hail Bob.
According to these patterns in the past, according to the prophecies, are telling, look, here is 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 is about to occur.
We do have the ability to make some alterations, but what we need to do is we need to find out more about the prophecies.
We need to find out what the ancients wrote to us.
And in fact, I think it's important that we do find out what is going on underneath the sphinx.
I think we need to know what's going on under some of the structures in Mexico and in China.
There are pyramids that dwarf the pyramids in Egypt and we need to see what the records are that they sealed up underneath these structures and I am extremely dismayed with the Antiquities Board in Egypt refusing to have legitimate researchers go in and try to
uncover it.
Again, the phenomena for me of those individuals who have in one way or another been affiliated
with an occurrence, with a pyramid, with a comet or something, and suddenly they become
proprietary.
Suddenly they become owners of the pyramid or the comet or something.
Folks, we need, everybody needs to be able to access the ancient past.
I really do believe that the secrets to the future, what is going to occur, lies in the records of the ancient past.
Absolutely.
I mean, I completely agree with that.
And I mean, it's our history, collectively, as a race, that we're talking about.
And every individual, regardless of where you come from, what you do or what you believe, has a right to know about their history and where they come from.
All right.
It was a very, very good call.
Thank you very much.
And I just had a message a little while ago from somebody again in this chat room that I'm in at the moment.
And they noted that you have a four-year-old.
And their question was, how much of this Have you shared with your four-year-old?
Oh, you would be surprised.
My daughter speaks as best as a four-year-old can.
She speaks both the Spanish, English, and the Apache tongue.
She has, I know this sounds unusual for a Native American, it may seem totally out of context, she has her own computer.
She is learning.
She has a vocabulary that astounds even me.
So she is well acquainted with, in quotation marks, the civilized world.
But my daughter has also danced in powwows.
She competed in her first dance at the age of seven months and she won a ribbon.
She has been to ceremonies.
She has been up on the mountaintop.
Um, we are sharing everything with her and simply, you know, being very straightforward and saying, look, this is how it happens in Phoenix, Arizona.
This is how it happens in Old Uribe.
This is how it happens in Sydney, Australia.
My daughter has received her name in Australia.
She was given the name Black Swan.
I intend to share with my daughter and all my other children, meaning, I mean, I adopt family members all the time, but for Brian and, excuse me, Brianne and Matthew, Daja, Bobby, Autumn Wind, all of them, I want to tell them, look, These are the stories of our primitive world.
These are the stories of the civilized world.
And I really believe that the young ones know far more than we give them credit for.
They have memories.
They're much closer to their cellular memories, their genetic memories, than we folks who have years and years of baggage to unlearn.
How does a four-year-old assimilate the information at the very beginning of life?
That what's going on in this earth may be in its final days, not because of her behavior at four, but because of those who have come before.
Well, we have not shared with her the idea that it's coming to an end.
What we have said is it's going to change.
Uh, as we have, for example, moved from, uh, while I was performing, we were living on a guest ranch and she could go riding on a horse every day.
Uh, daughter, it is now changing.
Uh, we are going to another place and it's going to be a different way to live.
So, uh, now she has the warmth.
Uh, she has a mall that she can go walking around in.
And so what we are saying is, Uh, there is a change.
Now, yes, we could say, daughter, the living on the guest ranch with the horses, it's at an end, it's over, no more.
But we prefer to say it's going to change, and I'm going to suggest the Hopi prophecies are telling us just that.
Uh, I don't believe planet Earth is going to come to an end.
I think that things are going to change.
Uh, in some cases, I really do believe there will probably be the, uh, the light switch will probably go off, uh, probably permanently.
To some people, it's going to be the end of the world because they can't plug in their hair dryer, they can't, uh, plug in their cable TV.
That may very well signal the end of the world to them.
I'm suggesting it's a change.
A lot can be wrapped into that word change, but I certainly follow you.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Good morning.
Where are you, please?
I'm in Tennessee.
Yes, sir.
I just had a comment before my question.
I heard your show last night, Art, and I just wanted to tell you I visited your website for the first time tonight.
It's very impressive.
You saw the photographs?
Yes, I did.
Can anybody look at all those photographs without saying, Hey, hey, hey!
Something is obviously there, no matter what these so-called experts say.
Dismiss these.
No, there's no way that anyone could look at those and say without doubting their own mind that there's something going on.
My question, you had mentioned earlier the Roman and I believe the Greek prophecies.
And I wanted to ask you if the Roman prophecies were the only ones that you mentioned that I caught that were in the area of Europe or Asia.
Do you see these similarities in that with the abundance of crop circles that seem to be profoundly in the area of Europe, mainly England?
Is there anything in the Roman prophecies that differ from the others that would signify that this is a major area for that type of activity?
I'm not sure I quite follow the question, but I will say that there are numerous descriptions of, for lack of a better term, gods of change.
Gods or goddesses that do their, in quotation marks, they do their thing in order to create change.
The crop circles seem to be a very clear indication that we are being signaled.
Now, again, I don't want to take away the work of a man whom I respect highly, Colin Andrews.
Many of you may have heard about the film that has emerged that has the circles of light that are swirling around a grassy field.
Suddenly the formation appears and they disappear.
Absolutely.
And there have been a lot of questions as to whether or not it's authentic, whether or not this thing is actually happening.
And again, I don't want to take anything away from Colin because he deserves the credit for the work.
I would suggest that he will very shortly make an announcement that is going to astound the world and that you will have, without a doubt, evidence that the crop circles are definitely a signal.
And that they are linked, and we didn't have time to get into the number 23 and why that plays such a crucial part, but Roman prophecies link the gods and goddesses of change to the Hopi, to the Egyptian, and specifically, I think, to the crop circles.
They are the contemporary, what is it, the contemporary billboard.
This is where we are being signaled in very clear manner, change is about to occur.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Good morning.
Hi.
This is Maggie from Arvada, Colorado.
Hi, Maggie.
And I had a statement and a question for Robert.
About a year and a half ago, I was down in Uxmel, Mexico, and after visiting the pyramid, I had a dream before I came home, and it was of a crop circle.
And then when I came back to Colorado, I found Ron Russell, who does a lot of flying over and into the crop circles.
And he also told me that it was a Hopi Indian symbol, and it was the migration symbol.
Because I, well, about a couple of months ago, went down to Chimney Rock, and then Hopis were dancing there for the second time in that area.
Some of the elders invited me down to the butterfly dance and so they were telling me that that was the migration symbol.
And I was just wondering if you could tell me any more about the migration symbol and if it has any connection with what you've been talking about.
Well, a migration symbol is basically a sign or a mark that describes the path that the Hopi were assigned when they emerged from an underworld.
Prior to these processes, there is a story that tells us that the Hopi people emerged from an underground world onto this world through an opening in the ground that is called Shipapu.
The Hopi, when they emerged onto this surface world, were told that in order to live here, they would have to obey and to follow the instructions of the being responsible for Earth, who is known as Masao.
Masao asked four separate clans to go in four different directions with a specific pattern in mind, a specific task.
That is what has been known as the migration symbol.
And one of the most pleasing things for me in one regard is my conversations with Colin Andrews and Busty Taylor, in which we do find a lot of Hopi symbols seem to be repeated in the crop circles.
Perhaps the best way to describe it is that they aren't specifically Hopi and they're
not specifically crop circles.
These are all signals from the ancient past.
The migration symbol is the symbol we see over and over again in the crop circles and
petroglyphs.
And for anybody who follows crop circles, let me suggest that if you take a look at
the most basic pattern, you will see a small round circle with a line attached to a larger
circle that follows.
This is the uneven dumbbell, the uneven circle, and I suggest that it's screaming out to us the story of the long-tailed comet, the small one, that precedes the much larger Bahama.
My apologies, I wish I had more time to explain the migration but there are several good books on the crop circles and if you want I can give you some names of some of the Hopi books which I would recommend.
Okay.
Alright.
Should I call that number then to get that?
Yes, you can call this evening.
One of my daughters is still up, one of my adopted daughters from Canada.
I adopt a family.
Karen is here tonight and she'll help you out tonight or you can call in the morning.
All right.
Thanks very much.
And Art, I enjoy your show.
Sometimes I don't get to hear as much because it comes on from 12 to 5.
And usually I'm asleep, but I haven't been asleep all night with this one.
All right.
All right.
Thank you so very much.
And Robert, hang tough.
If you're good for another hour, we sure are.
I'm enjoying myself, Art.
Thank you.
Good.
Well, the phones are going nuts.
So we'll be back shortly with Robert Morning Sky.
Half Hopi.
Half Apache, Native American.
We're discussing Hopi Prophecy.
If you will be quiet and listen with an open mind, I think some alarm bells will begin to go off.
And I would like to remind everybody, this will be a four-hour program.
You can get a copy of it with all contained by calling 1-800-917.
4278.
I wanted to get that out.
Once again, the number to get a copy of this program is 1-800-917-4278.
And that applies for any other program we do with a guest.
1-800-917-4278.
I'm Art Bell, and we'll be right back with more.
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Are you there, Robert?
Yes, sir, I am.
Thank you.
Good.
We'll try and devote this hour as much as possible to those who have questions in their legion.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Entertaining show you have there.
Thank you.
Where are you, sir?
I'm in Dallas, Texas.
That big cliff country, KLIS.
Yeah.
Say, I heard a little while ago you mentioned Velikovsky.
Yes.
This is the same guy who claims that the moon was a comet that bounced between Jupiter and Venus before settling into orbit.
And who also claims that hydrocarbons are a gas.
And what my question is, is when you're dealing with Scientists who make such really outrageous claims, how you can, how you feel that affects your credibility?
Well, I personally did not, I have not heard these claims that you've attributed to him, though it's very possible.
My reference to Mr. Velikovsky, I did not quote him.
What I was saying was that if he is saying, as I understand him, Uh, that the solar system is unstable, I absolutely agree.
Now, the specifics I may very likely disagree with.
In addition, in addition, to be fair, caller, that was a caller who brought that up, not Mr. Morning Sky.
Okay, well, you know, I heard the name there and it really concerns me when, you know, you make these predictions and then you throw in names like, and someone who claims that hydrocarbon is a gas, I mean, that's just Totally ludicrous.
Well, that may or may not be, but be it as it may, Mr. Morning Sky did not bring up the name caller.
Okay.
All right?
Thank you.
Thank you very much, and have a good morning.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Hello.
Good morning.
Good morning.
We've got a lot of echo or something on this line.
Yeah, I guess we do.
It's a terrible time for such a thing.
Where are you calling from?
This is Mark.
I'm calling from San Diego.
All right, Mark.
I was struck by Mr. Morningstar's remarks about the swastika symbol and the star with the four arms on its face and so forth.
This sounded like, or this reminded me that Carl Sagan wrote a book about the time that
Halley's Comet was due in 86 and devoted a chapter to the whole history or evolution
of the swastika symbol and how this was not the kind of geometric form that appears in
nature and yet it was recognized in all these different cultures, primitive cultures all
around the world.
And he speculated, now this is from Carl Sagan, Mr. Extraordinary Ideas Require Extraordinary
Proof, he speculated that this may have come from the operation of a comet coming more
or less straight at the Earth without gassing from four sides as this thing rotated.
And he also made the point that until the rise of Nazi Germany and the adaptation of the swastika as their emblem that the swastika had been seen by criminal cultures around the world as an omen of good tidings and so forth.
And so the two questions I have for the guest are Whether a swastika symbol appears or has a particular relevance or reference in Hopi culture, and in a more general way, whether Hopi culture or Native American cultures share what a lot of the world's civilizations or early cultures believed about comets, which was that they were portents of evil change.
All right.
Go right ahead, Robert.
Okay, actually, I agree with virtually everything that the caller, I'm sorry, that Mark, this is Mark, correct?
Right.
That he had said, because originally the swastika, and when I use the term swastika, it is not the geometric swastika that was used in Germany in World War II.
In fact, it is a round-armed swirling figure Originally, the swastika in many cultures around the globe was a symbol of good fortune.
The Aryan swastika, the German swastika, is actually a mirror image of the original swastika.
In other words, the German swastika was flipped over and it has a counterclockwise swirl.
Where the original swastika has a clockwise swirl.
Generally the swastika, and I suggest in the Southwest with the Anasazi and with other primitive people across the globe, that symbol had to do with creation.
It had to do with migration.
It had to do with the beginning times.
I can easily surmise that the swastika could find its origin in the swirling of a galaxy.
Possibly in a comet.
And again, it is an interesting perspective and it's plausible, as Mr. Sagan says, a comet coming head-on would give off a swirling, swastika-like pattern.
And so, the swastika generally is tied in with early creation, with the beginning times.
I would generally feel that it probably implies the swirling of the stars.
We could get into the stories about the cosmology, how the universe was swirling and began.
My feeling has been that it was tied in with the swirling of galaxies, the swirling of the universe, but it would not be altogether implausible that it was a comet headed directly for us.
Robert, let me ask you, or press the second portion of his question, and that is, in Hopi prophecy, Why is or is or why is a comet apparently a harbinger of evil or you know evil?
Well, again, I think it's a matter of perspective.
One of the first conversations that you and I had about the Blue Star, which is, again, my name for the Hale-Bopp, one of the first conversations we had was, I welcome the change.
I am looking forward to the insanity as we see it today.
I'd like to see it end.
I know that there are going to be some people suffering because there won't be any MTV or sports TV, etc.
The end of time, truly.
Exactly.
But again, it's a matter of perspective.
I know that there are many cultures and societies who have viewed comets as harbingers of doom, as harbingers of bad tiding.
Again, I think it's perspective.
I think it means change, and for some people it's not a good thing, and for a few demented, few renegades, I think change is something we look forward to.
Indeed.
The number 23, I can't let you get away tonight without covering the significance of 23.
Thank you, really, because this is a piece that we have recently uncovered and that has continued to astound me.
Earlier I began to talk about some of the Roman gods and goddesses who were tied in with times of change.
For example, in Rome, they tend to have more holidays, excuse me, festival days, that they have contributed to our calendar.
In Rome, the god Terminus, who was the god of boundaries, The celebration of the day or the Feast of Terminus was on the 23rd of February.
They also, the Romans, also celebrated the sacred day of Laurentina.
Laurentina was an earth goddess and she was the one that celebrated the old year and the new year, the potential of the new year.
She was a goddess directly tied into change, changeover, a change of eras.
Medusa, the crone of spiritual release, her day was celebrated on the 23rd also.
I'm sorry, Laurentino, her festival day was the 23rd of December.
And fascinating that the I Ching or the E Ching, depending on the individual, an old method of divining the future in the Orient, The I Ching uses tiles that are, depending on the progression, they tell your future.
But we found that the 23rd hexagram, the 23rd tile, literally means to break the line or a time of change.
Now, we can come up again with numerous instances in which the number 23 indicates, at least to the ancients, a time of change.
I stumbled on this by accident.
Allow me to very quickly go through the data on the comet Hale-Bopp.
Please.
Hale-Bopp was discovered on July 23rd, 1995.
666 billion miles from Earth.
Right.
on July 23rd, 1995.
666 billion miles from Earth.
Right.
On July 23rd, 1996, the comet Hale-Mops split into its two separate bodies, the mysterious
eyes.
That's right.
And we've got that photograph if you want to see it, folks.
Exactly.
On March the 23rd of 1997.
The comet Hale-Bopp will be at its closest point to Earth.
It's going to be 1,000,000, excuse me, 123,000,000 miles from Earth.
Now, this is data, folks.
This is not... No, it is true.
It is true.
The projected orbital return, originally projected at 3,600 years, the new projected orbital return of the comet Hale-Bopp is 2,364 years.
Now, We again said, what's going on here?
I'm sure that all your listeners know that there are 23 chromosomes in the male sperm, 23 chromosomes in the female egg.
It takes 23 pairs of chromosomes combining together to create a change in the womb of a woman.
This is called birth or an infant.
We have found that the DNA filaments that every 23rd angstrom There is an irregularity.
For some reason, there is an irregularity, a defect, a change in the 23rd angstrom of the DNA.
We then began to look, could the ancients have been trying to signal us?
Or were human beings, the ancient ones of Earth, trying to signal the gods?
We found, for example, that the west side of the Great Pyramid is 230 meters in length.
The east side, the north side, the south side are all 230 meters in length.
Coincidence, I'm sure.
The estimate that we have of the number of blocks in the Great Pyramid, 2.3 million blocks in the Great Pyramid.
We could go on and on.
There is a physical cycle, for example, in biorhythms.
There is a rhythm that says that every 23 days, you peak physically.
Okay?
Take a look at the sun.
We found that there is a cycle in the sun.
Every 11 and one-half years, the poles flip.
The North Pole of the Sun becomes the South Pole.
Well, they begin to detect sunspots with the opposite polarity.
That's correct, exactly.
So what we have is an apparent 11 and a half year solar cycle.
We have solar sunspots and storms every 11 and a half years.
By the way, there are reports, credible reports, saying they have just detected Sunspots of the other polarity.
It has just occurred.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
And the point being that when the polarity reverses itself, in order to return back to its original position, we have a 23-year cycle.
Now, it goes beyond that, folks.
The planet Earth is tilted from direct vertical axis 23.4 degrees from vertical.
The highest point north latitude that the sun rises in the summer is, guess what, it's 23.4 degrees.
This is known as the Tropic of Cancer.
The lowest latitude south.
That the sun reaches 23.4 degrees, tropic of Capricorn.
We can go on and on and on and on about this thing, but what was most fascinating was that the comet Hale-Bopp continues to bring forward the number 23.
It could be an amazing coincidence.
We took a look at the comet Hyakutake.
We found that at its closest point, To the Sun, Kakutake was 0.23 astronomical units away.
Again, a massive coincidence.
However, let me make one last comparison here on the number 23.
We've got pages and pages of 23, and it's data, folks.
It is not opinion or perspective.
It's data.
Is the contemporary world, is NASA, is our government aware of the number 23 and its significance, meaning change?
We began to take a look at the Apollo program.
I don't want to get into some of these unusual facts that I have heard.
But we found that Apollo 11, the very first landing on the moon by human beings, occurred at a landing site that was 23.5 degrees east longitude.
Great!
What a coincidence, Robert!
But guess what, folks?
Apollo 12, the very, very next landing on the moon, Occurred at 23.4 degrees west longitude.
I am going to suggest to you that the powers that be on the planet today know something.
One last one.
I apologize in regards to Native American prophecy.
Not long ago, in the year 1994, a lot of Native American elders flocked from around the country to go and see the birth of a white buffalo calf.
Now this was significant because generally Prophecies of Native America suggest that in the end time, a white buffalo calf would be born, and it would be a female.
Curiously enough, a white buffalo calf, a female, was born on September 22nd, 1994.
Now, why is the 22nd significant?
It is the eve of the Day of Change.
John F. Kennedy, assassinated on November 22nd.
And the last day of the Mayan calendar, December 22nd in the year 2012.
So do you think March 23rd of 97 will be an interesting day?
Absolutely.
I am on pins and needles.
I don't know what to expect.
I would love to be wrong about this stuff, but I do believe the 23rd of March is going to be highly significant.
Robert, do you think that something I think we're already experiencing that, but it's one of those things that I believe on March the 23rd, I'm going to agree with you.
I think we're going to have something in our face.
Something absolutely undeniable.
And by the way, I was just going through some of Jose Arguella's data, and I discovered that there was a grand trine, which means seven of nine planets were all lined up, and they occur only once every 23,000.4 years.
Yes, folks, it could be an extraordinary coincidence.
But, as I said, if they want to call and find out, we'll send them the information and let them decide for themselves.
All right, there you have it, folks.
23, west of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Where are you calling from, please?
Hello there.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Yes, I'm calling from Madera, California, just outside of Fresno.
All right.
My name is Alan, and he kind of lost me.
He talked about a snail and the number seven.
And that was one of my questions, where the snail and the seven were... Seven seasons, sir.
Probably hunting seasons, or equating to years.
He talked about the crop circles and the snail.
Yes, there are numerous crop circles that have shown up with the snail as the central part of its formation, yes.
And again, These snails, I wish we had more time, can easily be tied into some more complex what are called pictograms, in which we see uneven dumbbells, and we see the number seven appearing again and again.
So, I wish we had had more time.
My apologies, but the number seven is tied into the seven seasons between the appearance of the long-tailed and bahana.
All right, Robert, hold it right there, and we will be right back.
This is CBC.
This is Robert Morning Sky and this just in from AP, actually from a listener, listening to WWTN in Nashville.
Associated Press.
Mountain of ice.
An iceberg the size of Rhode Island that sheared off the coast of Antarctica could drift for 10 years before it ever melts.
The Berg measured about 54 miles by 27 miles.
Now, that's more than 1,400 square miles when it split from the coast of East Antarctica in May.
According to Australian scientist Neil Young, its sheer walls rise 100 to 160 feet above the waterline, descend about 1,000 feet below it, Australia's Antarctic Division, which is tracking the fragments by satellite, said it may be 10 years before they drift north into warmer water and obviously melt.
Robert?
Well, I tell you what, it's very interesting.
I was just, as you were reading the article, the announcement, I was taking a look at the prophecy.
And what it says very clearly is that the poles will release their frozen waters.
I may have made an error by saying that it would melt, but the poles will release their frozen waters.
Well, if they do that, eventually that which is released will melt.
It'll get to warmer water, and even conventional wisdom scientists know what that will do to the coastal areas.
One quick question for you from a listener.
How do we prepare for the coming events, the change, spiritually and physically?
Well, I think the first thing that we need to do again is we need to look at one, the old records, the old documents.
What is it that's going to happen?
And I've got to tell you, I am very honored to have had the chance to share so many of the pieces of the prophecy with you.
These are things that we can look for so that we can begin to set our house in order, so to speak.
Spiritually, mentally, physically, there are so many things.
My apologies.
At best I can, boy, I would have to simplify and say that One of the difficulties I have with many of the lecturers and speakers on the professional circuit today is that they say that we should wrap ourselves in light.
Now, without getting into the debate, the original linguistic root of that word, light, was actually enlightenment.
What we should do is wrap ourselves in enlightenment.
We should learn What it is that is being said, what it is, um...
Or what it is going to take to survive when the electricity goes off.
In other words, I suggest we need to be self-sufficient.
We need to know how to survive under conditions from no electricity and no air conditioning to literally being able to survive out in the mountains or the forest, the desert, wherever one might be.
Camping skills on steroids, so to speak.
How many people in modern America do you think are prepared for that?
Oh, modern America, boy, I would be hard-pressed to think.
I would be pleased if it was 2 or 3 percent.
That would be prepared.
All right, let's go back to the phones.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
Good morning.
Hi, this is Sam from St.
Joseph.
Yes, sir.
I've got a question.
Is this comet, this Hale-Bopp comet, are we going to be able to see it with the naked eye?
And if so, where do we look?
The answer is clearly yes, and at the end of March, the beginning of April, I guess the peak moment around the 23rd, you will indeed be able to see it.
If it meets expectations, its tail is said to perhaps cover as much of the quarter as a quarter of the sky.
Long-tailed comet indeed.
So that's the answer to that question.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Robert.
Morning Sky, hello.
Morning, gentlemen.
This is Bill from Youngstown, Ohio.
Hi, Bill.
Hi.
I wonder if you could not cut me out till I hear the answer since you went off the air 45 minutes ago.
In Ohio, yes.
I wonder if this prophecy has been speculated.
Jesus made a very, very aggressive prophecy.
I remember from childhood.
I don't know which gospel it's in, and it's something to the effect that without warning, the sky would be filled Yeah.
with Angel. Then he gives some admonitions, two of which I remember. One is if you wake up,
don't wake up your spouse, run. Then there's another one, if you're in a field,
don't tell anybody else, just run. It almost sounds like, you know, the boat leaves at 8.04
and if you don't get on it, you're going to miss it. Could that relate to this? Absolutely not.
Now, the last two statements that you made about waking up and leaving your spouse and in the field running, I personally am not familiar with that.
It rings a very vague little bell, but I don't specifically recall it.
However, let me go back to the signals of the end of time.
Um, once again, one of the prophecy corollaries says that there will be warriors that will descend from the sky to liberate the hopi and the good people.
Now, again, in Native America, normally warriors adorn themselves with feathers and long flowing tassels and robes.
I can very easily equate the image of a warrior in feathers and what may appear to be wings with angels.
So I would suggest that that is very close to the prophecy that the sky would suddenly be filled with angels.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
Whether you listen to Hopi prophecy or people who divine their information otherwise, Or modern-day prophets, or even Catholic prophecy of Father Malachi Martin.
Everybody seems to be saying more or less the same thing.
Different paths, but very much the same thing.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hello.
Good morning, everybody.
This is Anonymous and Accent Free.
Love your art, your show art.
Where are you?
Roughly.
Iowa.
Iowa.
All right.
Yes, I am.
And I'll tell you something that is, again, it is a secret that I think has now been revealed to the public.
mentioned the Wipe Up Oka and are you aware of the other one May of 96 on the
Pine Ridge? Yes I am and I'll tell you something that that is again it is a
secret that I think has now been revealed to the public.
One of the proofs so to speak or the confirmations that an event is
significant and that it participates in prophecy is that it always appears in pairs.
For example, the beginning of the procession is necessarily a pair.
It needs to be twins.
Many of the elders did not speak of the fact that once that first white buffalo calf was born, and it was a female, it was absolutely significant, but it was only the first one.
In order that the prophecies be confirmed, it was absolutely necessary that a second one be born.
And when the second one was born in, was it 96?
Yeah.
Yes.
It absolutely confirmed that this was the harbinger.
This was the sign that the end times are imminent.
And Native American elders across the United States had to go back home and start making decisions as to whether or not they would speak out on what they knew.
So, yes, I'm aware of it.
It is the confirmation that the prophecies are being fulfilled.
I also heard about the birth of the second one, by the way.
Ah.
One more thing.
This is documented public knowledge, so no big deal.
Grandfather Binyaka at the house of Micah, December of 92.
That's correct.
Thomas Banyaka approached the United Nations.
One of the prophecies said that in the end times that the Hopi elders would have to go to the house of Micah, M-I-C-A, and that they would have to address the distinguished people there, even though it would take as many as four times for the address to be heard.
Yes, that's another corollary in the prophecy.
But the documented thing that's alongside of that, and I don't know if you have, is that out of the blue tidal wave, simultaneous to his calling upskirts
and speaking for the whole 10 minutes he got and that hailstorm in New York which has been the beginning
of all these natural, strange weather things.
I'm familiar with the occurrences of the weather, the hailstorm.
I cannot find that as the beginning of the changes.
I think that they were already going on.
I think it was a confirmation of, again, the prophecies that the House of Micah had to be addressed.
Also, let me just very quickly say, because I know we're getting to the end of your program and I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about this, I want to emphasize again that I am not an elder or a spokesperson.
I only represent myself.
And in regards to these prophecies, I have not divined them.
I am not a psychic.
I mean, what I am presenting to you is based on very hard research.
It took me 30 years of working, not only on these prophecies, on crop circles, Egyptian, etc.
I really want to make very clear to your listeners that I am not a psychic, and I have no special powers.
This is a nobody with no credentials who's done a lot of hard work, and surprisingly, or perhaps not surprisingly, I find myself providing information that seems to support prophecies from, as you said, Art, the Bible, Catholic, Roman, Egyptian, Hopi.
It's a fascinating place to be.
I came to this place out of hard work and research.
Well, anybody who is quiet and listens, not just to you but to many others, has got to conclude That there is something going on.
That there is really something here.
It's coming from too many sources and sounding too similar to not be true.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hello.
Yes.
Good morning, Art and Mr. Robert Morningsky.
My name is Christopher calling from KADC in Monterey Park.
Yes, sir.
And I had a question.
I really want to commend you on a great show and for you coming on the air, you and Robert, and giving a lot of information.
It's very uplifting, I find it.
And I had a question for Mr. Morningsky.
All right.
And I was wondering what he thought, like, as far as it being collaborated, maybe like on Well, you well know what Malachi said, and I'll just leave it there.
Father Malachi believes in those, I guess, visionaries that had, and that there will
be a celestial worldwide warning, and it would be occurring around April, I guess.
And also another question is that it would be great to get Father Malachi Martin and
uh...
Well, you well know what Malachi said, and I'll just leave it there.
Well, I'm the guy between winter of 96 and spring of 97.
You got it.
Yes.
what he, uh, Robert Warnick, I thought on, uh, what his thoughts were on that.
Well, I bet he thinks synchronicity, but, Robert?
Well, I think absolutely that's the case.
Isn't that a fascinating coincidence?
I am not familiar with, uh, all the processes you've been talking about in the comments.
I, I'd be, be very honest, I have not had a very good experience with the, uh, professional circuit.
I don't know if this gentleman is on the circuit.
I have stayed very clear of a lot of the other prophets and prophecies and visionaries,
only so that I not be, let's say, suggested or led.
However, I guess it is not a surprise that what we are saying and what this other gentleman is saying is,
gee, what a remarkable coincidence, isn't it?
Amazing stuff.
Amazing stuff.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Good morning.
Hello there. Going once, going twice, gone.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hello.
Yeah, good morning.
This is Tom in Minnesota.
Hi, Tom.
First of all, I'd like to point out there are 23 essential amino acids that make up our body.
Also, Robert mentioned briefly they may already be here.
My question regards the extraterrestrial contact as we're seeing it now.
How does that relate to this whole aspect?
All right.
I missed the last part of the question.
He's asking extraterrestrial contact and how all this relates to what you're speaking of.
Boy, a good question.
And all I can basically say is that I think there are numerous researchers and writers out there who have suggested the very same thing that we are saying in our books.
We're saying that extraterrestrials have been part of our past.
They have been part of ancient history.
We have gone a little bit further and said that extraterrestrials are in fact responsible for the divine intervention in evolution that resulted in man.
Natural evolution alone would not do it.
There has to be intervention of some sort, and whether it be extraterrestrial or divine again errs in outside influence.
We have suggested, however, That if they were present once long ago, the question that has to be asked is where are they now?
Where have they been?
My position is that they have never gone, that they are present, and that they reside with us.
The reason we don't recognize them is because we're not taught to look for the differences.
We are, in fact, created in the image of the divine.
We are the children of star beings, as the Aborigines and Native Americans say.
We are created in their image.
The difference is that, you know, I don't think there are a lot of people who could tell the difference between a barn owl, a great horned owl, the different species of owl.
But there are human beings walking this Earth that we consider to be Earth-born and part of it.
I'm going to suggest that there are extraterrestrials present and well and alive in our society today.
Unfortunately, time doesn't permit.
I believe that yes, some are benevolent.
I believe that some have assisted in the Hopi world and in Native America.
Some of these beings have interfered with, punished, and actually been the demons that we have portrayed in many of the religions.
There has been an ongoing relationship with star beings since mankind was created.
Again, without it sounding like a commercial, I would only refer you to my book and my position as to where we stand on that.
They have always been here.
Alright, I'm going to give out the two numbers for people to get your materials.
And they are, area code 602-404-8050.
That's 602-404-8050.
602-404-8050.
That's 602-404-8050.
The other number, also area code 602-404-8050.
That's area code 602-404-8094.
And these numbers are actually coming right to you and your family, aren't they?
Yes, they are.
They're here to my home, my office, and my house.
You're going to be busy.
Well, I hope, sir.
I really hope that's the case, because I really think it's a significant time.
And in these last couple moments, Art, again, to you and Mr. Sramick, thank you for starting the new examination of the Comet Hale.
Bob, thank you for being such a demented renegade.
It has been an honor for me to speak to you these many times.
And keep going, guy.
You've got a feather in the making there.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's me, a demented renegade.
But again, I say, you know, if you don't do something different, then it's not possible to discern the difference between yourself and anybody else, because everybody else out there is following right along in certain prescribed footsteps.
Now, you really had your neck out for a long time, and there have been a lot of people who have taken a chop at it.
Are you going to remain low profile?
Are you going to not be making many appearances as you have not been?
I will probably be very, very picky about what I'm going to do.
Time again did not permit.
We are about to begin a series of new workshops in January and February, one a month, in which we're going to present not just the prophecies, but we're going to talk about the world's oldest religion, We're going to talk about, God help me for saying the words, the Mother Goddess Religion, and I can only sum it up in this regard.
I really do believe that the future of mankind lies in the hands of womankind, and that the comet Hale-Bopp, the events that are about to occur, must have the full participation and have women at the helm, but they must be supported by the men of the planet.
Well, you know, that just doesn't surprise me, because as I said to you earlier in the show, Robert, women were here and instrumental in the beginning.
Doesn't it make sense?
They would be here and instrumental in the change.
You have proven yourself a demented renegade, sir.
All right, Robert, thank you so very much.
It's, I think, coming up on four o'clock there in Arizona.
Yes, it is.
And again, thank you very much for having me on, Art, and I do appreciate the opportunity to be with you and your guests.
Thank you very much, and keep doing what you're doing, guys.
Good night, my friend.
Good night.
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