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Dec. 2, 1996 - Art Bell
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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Hale Bopp - Dr. Lee Shargel
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Art Bell is taking calls on the wild card line.
That's 702-727-1295.
First-time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
702-727-1222.
Now, here again, Art Bell.
Once again, here I am.
702-727-1295. First time callers can reach Art Bell at 702-727-1222.
702-727-1222. Now, here again, Art Bell.
Once again, here I am. It's a very, very interesting morning. Water discovered on the moon.
On the moon.
Lake-sized water, maybe a hundred feet deep.
On the moon.
The Pentagon will be announcing that later today.
The Mars probe did not launch.
Something went afoul with the computer.
The launch now scheduled for 24 hours, roughly, minus a few moments from the time it should have launched this morning.
We'll be covering that.
In a moment, uh, well, let me read you a little bit of a fax that I've got here.
Actually, email from Dr. Lee Shargell.
Last week, Art, one of my colleagues was able to obtain 17 classified photos of Hale-Bopp.
I can't reveal his name, nor the method used to extract these photos or others which have come into our possession.
Suffice it to say, the photos of the comet show a distinct object.
Causing a disturbance in the tail.
This object was only visible for several hours due to the azimuth angle of the comet and the declination of the sun.
The photos are authentic and very, very clear.
No fuzzy detail at all.
Whatever this object is, and no one seems to want to come out and say for sure, it is either trapped in the comet's gravity field or Yup, it is a probe or craft built by some intelligence we have yet to determine.
Either way, if you would like copies for posting or adding to the speculation, please call me and he gives me contact numbers and I have done that and he'll be on the air in a moment.
For a couple of moments.
It's Christmas comes.
Now, um, all the way, I believe, back east, Dr. Lee Chargall.
Doctor, are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
Alright, where are you located?
I'm located in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Oh, my.
Well, thank you for getting up at this hour.
It's late.
Yeah, it's after four o'clock in the morning in Fort Lauderdale.
Would you fill us in, please, first on your background?
You have a doctorate in what?
I have a doctorate in material science and also in robotics.
That's primarily what I work in.
I worked for NASA in the Department of Defense for over 20 years.
Until I left to become a full-time author and lecturer, and when I formed the Galactic Observer Foundation as the more or less front-man scientist for a group of other scientists that are still employed by those various agencies.
And where are your doctorates from?
Northeastern University.
All right.
Very good.
So you work for NASA?
You work for the government?
And you finally got out.
How long ago did that occur?
1993.
1993.
Oh, so your employment at NASA and the government's fairly recent then?
Yes.
We are really undergoing what I would call a flap.
And I mean a flap.
I aired quite a bit of material A doctor about Hale-Bopp the comet.
And I'm right in the middle of a whirlwind of controversy.
I have from, I can't tell you how many sources now, word privately from astronomers that, oh yes, oh yes, we are indeed imaging something very unusual from Hale-Bopp, but nobody We're doing something a lot more than imaging.
Well, nobody wants to stick their neck out, Doctor.
Well, I'm sticking my neck out because I predicted this three years ago when I first wrote my book, Voice in the Mirror.
And exactly what I wrote about is exactly what's happening right now.
And what did you write about?
I wrote about an event that would take place very far from here.
And just today, in the news, it was reported by several scientists Who now are saying that the cause for the extinction of the dinosaurs was by a large radiation pulse from a neutron star that passed through our solar system.
Let me explain.
All right, please.
Inside Hale-Bopp is a probe.
And that probe is sending a signal here to Earth, and it's been sending signals to other planets, too.
All right, let me stop you and say, I've also received, uh, independent word, uh, two, two important things.
One is, an astronomer has taken photographs, uh, clearly showing Hale-Bopp at one of the major top ten universities.
Two, that they have received what appears to be An intelligent radio signal they're trying to decode now from Hale-Bopp or the object near it or something out there.
There's a signal coming from it.
You confirm that?
Not only do I confirm it, but I also confirm that it's already been decoded.
And it's not a voice signal.
The signals are mathematical symbols that make up pictures.
And they keep repeating.
72 pictures over and over again.
Really?
Yes.
And these pictures are this.
One of the pictures is a picture of our solar system.
Another picture is a picture of another solar system.
Other pictures are probably what are other solar systems, the trajectory of this probe, and other symbols which we cannot understand yet.
But these pictures keep repeating over and over again.
Two things.
A greeting and a warning.
A greeting and a warning?
Yes.
And that's exactly what I wrote about in 1993.
My book, Voice in the Mirror, The Final Apocalypse, details exactly what's happening right now.
A voice and a warning.
Can you give us a substance of these?
Do you know?
Yes, I do.
The greeting is from a civilization that's not too far from here in astronomical terms.
They're approximately 27 light years from this planet.
The warning is in reference to a neutron pulse.
That is cascading through the galaxy.
And it's going to come in the vicinity of this planet.
And we have to do something, and they're going to help us do it, to prevent the excessive amount of radiation from penetrating our atmosphere.
Wow.
Just like what happened to the dinosaurs.
And he said that today in the news.
Yeah.
This is certainly a new take on everything.
Um, you claim to have... And HAARP is going to play an important role in this.
What is?
HAARP.
HAARP.
Um, last week, uh, you say in your fax, you obtained 17 classified photos of Hale-Bopp.
Yes.
You can't tell us where you got them?
No, I can't tell you where they came from.
And what do they show?
They show very, very clear pictures taken over several hours of the comet.
And as it's, um...
It's kind of hard to explain over the telephone, but let me just say this.
Do the best you can.
If anybody has ever seen the HST PRC-95-41 photo taken on October 5th, 1995, there is two definite objects in that Hubble picture.
And that's because the Hubble was looking at it dead on.
Is that the one that they call Hale-Bopp's eyes?
Yes.
What they're seeing is the tail passing over that object.
Now, another important thing to consider, and everybody's talking about this ice that's been recently found on the moon.
Yeah, that's right.
It's going to be the source of a news conference by the Pentagon.
How was that ice found?
With the Clementine probe.
That's correct.
And that was the classified probe.
There's another one out there called StarMapper.
Nobody knows about that one.
I don't know about that one.
Nobody does.
I'm saying nobody in the public domain knows about it.
That's another satellite that's taking some very interesting pictures out there.
of hail bop and some other things. Well let me tell you something else to add to the mystery.
As you know the shuttle is up right now and they have extended the shuttle's mission by
one day. Now they've done this at a moment when the shuttle door won't even open. In
other words they're very worried about that. They don't want anybody going outside. They
have nevertheless, they have nevertheless extended the mission one day with a satellite
outside and from the sources, I'm getting from a lot of sources that the reason they're
doing this is get this to get more images of guess what?
Bye.
Hale-Bopp.
Yeah.
Isn't it interesting that the door doesn't open?
It's always opened before.
I know.
It's very curious that they don't want them to go outside.
So why do you think that might be?
Well, it's very possible that right now it would be hazardous to their health to be outside of the shuttle.
Well, I know that there are certainly dangers if there's a sun flare.
But I don't think that's what you're talking about.
No, that's not what I'm talking about.
But just think if there was... Let me put it this way.
Right now there's a project being undertaken.
By MIT, Caltech, and the NSF called LIGO.
It's the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Observatory.
What is that?
I'm also consulting on that.
What is it?
It's a giant laser to detect gravity waves.
Now, I first wrote about gravity waves in 1991, and that's also in my book.
Now, these gravity waves pass very close to the planet Earth.
Now, if you can imagine dropping a stone in a pond and the rings that emanate from that area where it enters the water?
Of course.
Okay.
Well, if there was no shoreline, those rings would just continue on to infinity.
Right.
Okay.
Now, imagine the same thing happening in outer space.
Giant waves of gravity traveling through space.
I can imagine that.
Okay.
Now, imagine if you, say, were a surfer.
A galactic surfer.
And you had a ship like a surfboard and you got it into that wave on the crest of it.
It would push you along much faster than if you were traveling under normal propulsion.
Understandable.
Okay.
Now, there is, I predict that there's a gravity wave passing through the vicinity of the Earth right now.
And you think that's why they won't let them go out?
Yes, because that gravity wave is pushing Very, very high amounts of radiation ahead of it.
So you don't think a thing's wrong with that door?
No.
When they get back, it'll work fine.
These images that you have of Hale-Bopp, they show a companion?
Yes, they do.
They show a definite object in the tail.
Can you make estimates, Doctor, of how large this companion is?
At this time right now, I have not Well, one thing is clear, Doctor, and that is that astronomical circles are absolutely buzzing.
I mean, absolutely buzzing.
But all below the surface.
In other words, nobody's willing to come forward so far, with the exception of yourself.
Well, I don't think that there's any reason for anybody to be fearful.
The sky is not going to fall, and it might be the end of the world.
Right.
I do believe that the message that is being broadcast from this object is very similar to what we put on the Voyager, which went out of our solar system.
It's just somebody doing it in reverse.
Can you tell me anything about the frequency that this message is incoming on?
Uh, not being a communications engineer, I'm not that familiar with it, but it's a very, very high frequency, and I think it's somewhere in the K-something band.
KU band, maybe?
Possibly that.
I'm going to find out tomorrow, and I'm going to let you know.
But it's a very, very high frequency, and they are able to interpolate this signal so that they can use it to digitize it into the images that they're projecting.
Right, which you say are mathematical in nature.
Right.
And which carry a message and a warning.
It's carrying a message and a warning.
It's a message of greeting to us and obviously to other planets where there must be other inhabitants.
And a warning that this pulse is passing through the galaxy and will probably come through this solar system.
Doctor, hardly anybody else is willing to stick their neck out.
But you are, why?
Because I want people to know.
I think it's important for people to understand this and not for it to be a secret.
I'm just, myself and my colleagues are so tired of us living under this so-called threat of secrecy.
And that we are the only intelligence in the entire universe.
This is not true.
We are not.
We need to reach out to whoever is out there, because they're reaching out to us.
But we have to do it without fear.
Well, that brings me to another topic.
Whatever this is, headed our way, I don't think that our military community Uh, which is a big portion of the government, is going to react to it the way we would hope they would.
I, I'm afraid they're going to react to it in the wrong way.
Is that, is that a reasonable fear?
It's a reasonable fear, but it will have no effect.
Meaning?
It's, it's all, it's expected, exactly what they will do.
But it will have no effect.
They won't, our military will not, will be powerless to do anything.
Other than express their fear, do a military dance, and that'll be all.
But they will be ineffective in trying to do anything.
Because this is not going to do anything to us.
Well, I guess what I'm saying is, I saw ID4.
Everybody else did.
If something's coming our way, I wouldn't want there to be an automatic negative reaction.
In other words, I don't want to go to war with somebody who hasn't declared they want to go to war with me.
Neither do I. And neither do my colleagues.
And from what we understand, whoever is out there, and we have a pretty good guess who they are, and that's in my book too, they have been here before.
And they have been watching over this planet and others for a very, very long time.
They have been here before?
Yes.
When?
4,000 years ago.
4,000 years.
And why were they here then?
They were here then because there were others here who didn't belong here.
And they would have upset the normal progression of our civilization.
There are a lot of people listening to this right now who are going to say, Dr. Chargall, you're out of your mind.
How do you know all this stuff?
We don't have enough time for me to go into how I know it.
Suffice to say, it doesn't matter if people believe it or not.
The proof will prove itself.
I'm not going to prove it.
Well, I must say, the photographs of the companion, the object, whatever the hell it is out there, seem rather clear.
And you claim you've got I have 17 of them.
It's very clear.
It's very clear that there's an object there.
It's not clear what it is.
Right.
Other than that it is an object.
It looks like a globe.
It may possibly be transparent.
Or have the ability to be transparent.
But it is reflecting light.
And it's also absorbing light.
Now you're saying the exact same things that so many others have.
And it's also clear to you that there is an incoming signal with a specific message which we haven't heard before.
A greeting and a warning.
That's correct.
That's all new information.
It's coming in a mathematical sequence that you believe is broadcast somewhere near the KU band.
Right.
Is that a very high band?
Yes, it is.
Yeah, well, that's where it's being broadcast, from a very, very high band.
Interestingly, the KU band is exactly where the satellite dish outside my home is transmitting right now to get the signal around the country to the various affiliates.
KU band.
Well, you might just get another signal.
The only problem is all you're going to hear is just a bunch of beeps and squeals.
You have to be able to translate it.
I want you to be able to take some calls, some questions from the audience.
Are you willing to do that?
Yes, I am.
But I also wanted to mention that this information is all contained in my book.
All right.
We'll get to your book after the break here and tell people how to get hold of it.
Stand by.
Lee Chargo, doctor, is my guest.
And he'll be back in a moment.
I don't know.
What do you make out of all this, folks?
How many sources do you have to hear from bringing roughly the same message?
Before you begin to wonder, well, gee, could it possibly be true?
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It is indeed, and how could a person not follow this story?
I guess that's what I would ask.
With all of these different sources seemingly disconnected, but saying the same thing, how could a person not follow it, I wonder?
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My guest is Dr. Leo Chargall.
He wrote a book years ago about all of this.
How many years ago did you write that book?
I actually wrote the book.
I began writing it in 1991.
I finished it in 1993, and rewrote it again, and finished it last year, and it'll be out on March 1st of 1997.
Oh!
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Oh, that's a good number.
1-888-ORDER-IT, huh?
Right.
And the title of your book is?
Voice in the Mirror, The Final Apocalypse.
Voice in the Mirror, the Final Apocalypse.
Wow.
All right.
How much is it?
If they order it through the publisher, it's $20.
It's a hardcover book.
If they wait for it to be in the bookstores March 1st, it'll be $24.
And I'll be embarking on a coast-to-coast book tour and lecture tour starting in the end of February, March.
But I will be a guest speaker at the UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada.
Uh, on January 22nd.
All right.
Where I will, uh, reveal a lot more information, uh, plus have all the photos and slides to show everyone.
Anybody that wants to be there will be able to see this up close and personal.
All right.
Listen, Doctor, uh, you're going to get these photographs to me, correct?
Yes.
What I'm going to do tomorrow is I'm going to go up to the university and, uh, take photos of the photos, blow them up, And send them to you the following day, which will be Wednesday.
You will have them on Thursday.
All right.
Good enough.
You know, we'll get them up on the web, and that's okay with you, right?
That's fine.
The more people that see it, the more people will know.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's take a few calls from the audience.
First time caller line, you're on the air with Dr. Lee Chargall.
Hi.
Hi.
Um, Doctor, I would like to know, um, from the descriptions we've had up to this point... You're going to have to speak up, hun.
It's kind of hard to hear you.
Uh, just go ahead and ask your question.
Oh, yes.
I'd like to know, um, if this, uh, what do you call it?
Anomaly?
Or the twin?
Or the companion?
Companion or anomaly, whatever.
Yeah, to Hale-Bopp, if, um, perhaps that anomaly is, um, keeping Hale-Bopp Well, it's, uh, I believe not projected to hit Earth anyway.
It's going to be, what, at the closest approach, 123 million miles or something like that.
Right.
In astronomical terms, it's close, but in actuality, it's going to be very far away.
But not too far for a signal to reach us.
God, that's exciting.
All right.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Dr. Chagall.
Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Dr. Chagall.
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
Some of the research that you've been doing, do you have any background in physics?
In physics itself?
Yes.
Well, some, but not much.
Okay.
I was curious if you thought that there will be a quickening, as Art puts it, Very soon, within a half a year or so, where the weather patterns will change very abruptly and possibly due to something other than the Hale-Bopp companion.
Do you believe that?
Well, I believe in something that I call the awakening.
And I believe that it's going to affect a lot of people on this planet, but it won't affect the planet itself.
All right.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargill.
Hi.
Good morning.
Are Carl in Minneapolis?
Hi, Carl.
I'd first like to thank you.
You do a great service, and I'd just like to thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Sir, as far as the anomaly, do you think it could be like a rudder?
I understand that.
I know that the lady asked you that, but, you know.
It could be, or maybe riding along with the coattails of the thing, like, as you said, with the ripple effect of the gravity going through space, it could be coming with the comet, and that's why it's coming quicker.
No, this is definitely an object that has been built by an intelligence.
Okay, about the discrimination now against all the people, like Richard Hoagland, Chuck, Charmin, I want to know, what are the people who don't believe anything is going on right now, what are they going to do when they find out it really is happening?
They're going to believe it.
They're going to call Art Bell.
That's what they're going to do.
All right, thank you.
Or what's going to happen when nothing happens?
And that's possible.
I have to allow that's possible.
Look, I'm just a talk show host, but I don't know how many people now, like you, Doctor, who are saying the things that you're saying, and I just can't ignore it.
Plus, I've got this hard data that's beginning to come from the astronomical community.
Well, I guess I shouldn't say hard data until I really get it, your photographs included, but I've got all of these astronomers who are quietly saying, oh yeah, something's going on, but oh no, we don't want to talk about it yet.
Well, a lot of people don't want to talk about it because they don't... A lot of people right now in the scientific community are sitting on a fence.
They don't want to come out and say definitively what they believe it is because if it turns out not to be that, they're afraid that they're going to look like... They're going to be hung out to dry.
Exactly.
But something is there.
We all know that something's there.
We're already receiving something from it.
We have no way to communicate back as of yet, but I believe that we will.
Find a way to communicate back to this thing, and it's going to pass us and just keep traveling on.
But the message that it delivers is something we must listen to.
We cannot ignore it.
All right.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargel.
Hi.
Oh, hello, Art.
Hello.
It's really a pleasure talking with you.
You're the greatest talk show host ever as far as I'm concerned.
I don't know about that.
Well, thank you.
Well, anyway, I have a couple of questions, Doctor.
First one, this is more directed to Art than to you, Doctor.
Do you believe that this thing that's happening on the 5th of December in Egypt may give us an opportunity to communicate with this interstellar craft that's hanging out up there?
Do you think that's possible?
That's purely speculative, sir.
I have no idea.
Okay.
Now, you said that the communication on this thing is on the K-band, and your satellite dish that you get your signals back and forth so that you can communicate with all the different affiliates?
Well, no.
Let me be specific.
The link that I have from here To Oregon, as well as the link from Oregon to New Jersey, is on the KU band.
Okay, why can't they... If they've been able to come from one galaxy to another, inter-dimensionally, in a craft that's so sophisticated, why couldn't they communicate on that same band?
So you could communicate, and we could ask questions, and we could figure out what's going on.
It shouldn't be that difficult.
It would be like trying to talk to an answering machine.
Yeah, that's it, exactly.
That's it, exactly.
And right now, the band that I'm on is occupied, sir, both coming and going.
So what I receive, I get from the network, and what I transmit, I transmit to the network.
It's like an occupied line.
But it's in that KU band of frequencies.
All right.
Just an idea, and I want to ask you one last question before I hang up our bell.
Sure.
This is really important.
Sure.
Okay.
You know, like, Cal, in different programs like the Music Awards, they give the Tonys and they give the Emmys for motion pictures.
Is there any kind of a thing that we could write into for an award so we can vote for our favorite talk show radio host?
Not that I know of, sir, but I appreciate the vote of confidence.
Thank you.
It's bad enough that there's a new movie out, doctor.
Uh, called Mars Attacks?
Yeah.
Uh, it's a, I guess a parody of, uh, the old Mars Attacks movie.
The old Pops baseball card.
Yeah, that's right.
And guess where they attack?
The Mars Attacks card.
You know where they attack?
Pahrump, Nevada.
Now, calculate the odds of that one.
Little Pahrump, Nevada.
I mean, recently bloomed to 20,000 people of all the places they could choose in the whole United States.
Pahrump, Nevada.
Impossible.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargill.
Hi.
Hello, Burlington, Vermont calling.
Yes, sir.
You mentioned HAARP.
I would like to know if you could expand upon what HAARP has to do with the coming communications.
Good.
Good question.
Yep.
There are two things that we need to know about.
HAARP being one.
The other one is a system called Sarinet.
What is that?
Sarinet is A highly classified installation in Antarctica.
HAARP and SARINET will both link together and they will create a shield around this entire planet.
And it is something good, not bad.
HAARP is not a bad thing.
Well, none of it becomes a shield.
HAARP is ostensibly something to heat the ionosphere.
An ionospheric heater.
And they say the two reasons for it, which may be pure baloney, who knows, are to study radio communications and to map underground tunnels and bunkers of all things.
That sounds pretty far-fetched to me.
Well, it is to me, too.
In order to get underground, to get enough radiation underground after coming off the ionosphere, you would have to penetrate everything above ground.
I have been listening to you for quite a while and I have to tell you that I have had a mixed
bag of emotions the last week or two.
Well that makes two of us.
Don't think I haven't had a mixed bag of emotions, too, over all this.
I can imagine.
I mean, it's excitement, it's fear.
I was shaking, actually, the first time you started.
I was terrified when I first started hearing all this information.
I was shaking uncontrollably.
Well, in a way it is, on a mission of protection, right Doctor?
and this other information I've been hearing, I get this feeling for some reason
that if all this is true about actually protecting us, that maybe this object would actually encompass the Earth
or surround it, it seems so large that it would protect us
from whatever would be heading our way possibly.
What do you feel about that?
Well, in a way it is- Very good analogy.
On a mission of protection, right, Doctor?
Absolutely.
I guess I can only say to my audience, look, what would you do if you were in my position
getting all this information, all these different sources, would you not report on it?
Would you keep it under your hat?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargill.
Hi.
Hi, I'm calling from Duluth, Minnesota, listening to W... First-time callers, call Area 702-727-1222.
Chumps or chums, we're not sure yet.
What is your first name, sir?
Will.
Will, okay.
I'm from Duluth, Minnesota.
Right.
And I do have a doctorate in molecular genetics.
I am, and this is a fact, the first person to write in black and white, that was my doctoral thesis, the Molecular Genetic Mechanism for Production of Variability in the Light and Heavy Chains of Immune Components.
I did this in the 60s, and that's how we fight viruses and bacteria.
But a number of us, a reasonable large number of we the people, some of us occasional listeners too, and participants on various radio and TV talk shows, are beginning to raise a very important question.
Is all this mysterious Object with Hale-Bopp.
Hale-Bopp?
That's Hale-Bopp, sir, B-O-P-P.
Okay, thank you for correcting me.
I apologize.
All this hype being done for a sinister, evil purpose.
Like what?
And are some of us, including Hovert and yourself, a nice gentleman, allegedly, possibly, being used In an allegedly possible sinister attempt.
To?
A hidden agenda.
To do what?
By the head of the America's New Secret Police.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco.
Well, I would say this would be a pretty big target for ATF.
A secret plot of ATF, huh?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Shargell.
Hello.
Oh, hi.
Hi.
I'm calling from New Haven, Connecticut.
Well, good morning.
Good morning to you and to you both.
Good morning.
I was just wondering about the crop circle.
If they could be also giving the same message as the doctor was... Oh, actually, in a way, that's a very, very good question.
Doctor, the crop circle phenomenon, it can't all be Doug and Dave.
You say the message coming from this object is mathematical in nature.
And a lot of people have looked at crop circles and have seen them as mathematical messages.
Any comments?
Well, my only comment right now would be that we haven't had the opportunity yet to compare the images from Hale-Bopp to certain crop circle images, but I'm certain that it will be done very soon to see if there's any correlation between crop circles that have appeared Uh, recently and in the past, where that is in the public domain.
The word I've been getting is fractal.
People have called them fractal.
Fractal images?
Yeah.
Yes.
Uh, well, the only thing I can say is that, uh, I'm sure that they're going to be compared, uh, mathematically, to see if there is a correlation between one image and the other.
Perhaps they're, uh, they may be very close.
I don't know.
All right.
Uh, wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Chargel.
Uh, good morning.
KQM, City, California.
Yes, good morning.
I'd like to know what a neutron pulse is and exactly what it will do.
All right, good question.
What is a neutron pulse and what will it do?
A neutron pulse is the result of an exploding supernova or the destruction of a star, a neutron star.
The pulse is the radiation that emanates from the destruction of the star and it emanates throughout space.
Kind of like a rock thrown in the middle of a pond.
Does that help you, caller?
No.
Does it emanate on a specific vibrational pattern?
On a vibrational pattern?
Yes, does it vibrate specifically like certain frequencies of radio waves?
Does it have a noticeable pattern?
Yes, it does have a noticeable pattern.
Okay, and the way that it spreads out, it doesn't spread out like a Like a cloud would spread.
It spreads out more like the rings of Saturn would spread.
In a very flattened trajectory.
Alright.
But it gets larger and larger and larger the farther it travels.
Yeah, I think the best analogy is the rock thrown out in the middle of a pond.
Right, it just goes on forever.
Uh-huh.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargall.
Hello.
Hi, this is John Doe... Oops, don't give us your last name.
From Vancouver Island?
Yes, John.
Is your guess saying that the dinosaur's extinction is like a result from this radiation wave?
I think so.
Dr.?
Yes, that's what we believe that It was the result of a large pulse of radiation passing over and through the Earth, which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.
In essence, they all were fried.
But wouldn't it affect smaller species, like amphibians?
It would affect primarily species on the surface.
Most of the smaller species hide underground.
Or underwater.
Or underwater, and they're primarily nocturnal.
And I'm sure that this didn't happen in one day.
This happened over a long period of time.
And the radiation level built up and became stronger and stronger and stronger.
And the result was probably that the dinosaurs couldn't reproduce.
Is this radiation wave, how many times does it hit the Earth?
How many times does it hit the Earth?
Yeah, has it hit?
Maybe?
Has it hit the Earth yet?
No, he meant the dinosaur extinction that you talked about.
Oh.
That was, to our knowledge, it's only happened that one time.
Oh, okay.
And I have a second question about Mars.
That was approximately 70 million years ago.
Alright, your second question is?
About Mars, I was understood that it couldn't be terraformed because there's no tectonic shifting.
Well, you're off onto a different track there, caller.
Listen, Dr. Chagall, you want to stick around one more hour?
Sure.
I'm sure there are a lot of people, the lines are absolutely jammed, so stay right.
I'm up for the long haul.
Down in WFTL country, that's where we're heard in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
WFTL?
WFTL in Fort Lauderdale, yes.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I've been trying to find out where you are broadcasting.
I just told you, WFTL in Fort Lauderdale.
Well, now I can listen.
All right, now you can indeed.
All right, we're going to break here.
For more, we're going to do another hour with Dr. Lee Chargall.
Interesting or what?
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