Dr. Lee Shargel joins Art Bell to reveal 17 classified Hale-Bopp comet photos, including two objects in its tail—one captured by Hubble on October 5, 1995 (HST PRC 95-41)—and a probe emitting decoded K-band signals from a 27-light-year civilization. The probe’s images show Earth’s solar system, another system, and a warning about an incoming neutron pulse radiation wave, like the one that may have caused the dinosaur extinction 70 million years ago. Shargel predicts HARP and Sarinet will create a protective atmospheric shield, dismissing military fears as misplaced, and insists transparency is key despite skepticism over classified probes like StarMapper and Clementine’s moon ice findings. [Automatically generated summary]
Lake-sized water, maybe 100 feet deep on the moon.
The Pentagon will be announcing that later today.
The Mars probe did not launch.
Something went afoul with the computer.
The launch now scheduled for 24 hours, roughly minus a few moments from the time it should have launched this morning.
We'll be covering that in a moment.
Well, let me read you a little bit of a facts that I've got here.
Actually, email from Dr. Lee Chargell.
Last week, Art, one of my colleagues, was able to obtain 17 classified photos of Halebaum.
I can't reveal his name, nor the method used to extract these photos or others which have come into our possession.
Suffice it to say, the photos of the comet show a distinct object causing a disturbance in the tail.
This object was only visible for several hours due to the azimuth angle of the comet and the declination of the sun.
The photos are authentic and very, very clear.
No fuzzy detail at all.
Whatever this object is, and no one seems to want to come out and say for sure, it is either trapped in the comet's gravity field or, yup, it is a probe or craft built by some intelligence.
We have yet to determine.
Either way, if you would like copies for posting or adding to the speculation, please call me and he gives me contact numbers, and I have done that, and he'll be on the air in a moment or a couple of moments.
It's Christmas comes.
Now, all the way, I believe, back east, Dr. Lee Chargel.
Yeah, it's after 4 o'clock in the morning in Fort Lauderdale.
Would you fill us in, please, first on your background?
You have a doctorate in what?
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I have a doctorate in materials science and also in robotics.
That's primarily what I worked in.
I worked for NASA and the Department of Defense for over 20 years until I left to become a full-time author and lecturer.
And when I formed the Galactic Observer Foundation as the more or less frontman scientist for a group of other scientists that are still employed by those various agencies.
We are really undergoing what I would call a flap.
And I mean a flap.
I aired quite a bit of material, a doctor, about Hailbop, the comet.
And I'm right in the middle of a whirlwind of controversy.
I have, from, I can't tell you how many sources now, word privately from astronomers that, oh yes, oh yes, we are indeed imaging something very unusual from Hailbop, but nobody.
Well, nobody wants to stick their neck out, Doctor.
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Well, I'm sticking my neck out because I predicted this three years ago when I first wrote my book, Voice in the Mirror.
And exactly what I wrote about is exactly what's happening right now.
I wrote about an event that would take place very far from here.
And just today in the news, it was reported by several scientists who now are saying that the cause for the extinction of the dinosaurs was by a large radiation pulse from a neutron star that passed through our solar system.
All right, let me stop you and say I've also received independent word, two important things.
One is an astronomer has taken photographs clearly showing Hailbop at one of the major top 10 universities.
Two, that they have received what appears to be an intelligent radio signal they're trying to decode now from Hailbob or the object near it or something out there.
There's a signal coming from it.
You confirm that?
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Not only do I confirm it, but I also confirm that it's already been decoded.
And it's not a voice signal.
The signals are mathematical symbols that make up pictures.
And they keep repeating, 72 pictures over and over again.
They have nevertheless, they have nevertheless extended the mission one day with a satellite outside, and from the sources, I'm getting from a lot of sources, that the reason they're doing this is get this, to get more images of, guess what?
Well, one thing is clear, Doctor, and that is that astronomical circles are absolutely buzzing.
I mean, absolutely buzzing, but all below the surface.
In other words, nobody's willing to come forward so far, with the exception of yourself.
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Well, I don't think that there's any reason for anybody to be fearful.
The sky is not going to fall, and it might be the end of the world.
I do believe that the message that is being broadcast from this object is very similar to what we put on the Voyager, which went out of our solar system.
Can you Tell me anything about the frequency that this message is incoming on?
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Not being a communications engineer, I'm not that familiar with it, but it's a very, very high frequency, and I think it's somewhere in the K-something band.
I'm going to find out tomorrow, and I'm going to let you know.
But it's a very, very high frequency, and they are able to interpolate this signal so that they can use it to digitize it into the images that they're projecting.
It's a message of greeting to us and obviously to other planets where there must be other inhabitants and a warning that this pulse is passing through the galaxy and will probably come through this solar system.
Doctor, hardly anybody else is willing to stick their neck out, but you are.
Why?
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Because I want people to know.
I think it's important for people to understand this and not for it to be a secret.
I'm just, myself and my colleagues are so tired of us living under this so-called threat of secrecy and that we are the only intelligence in the entire universe.
This is not true.
We are not.
We need to reach out to whoever is out there because they're reaching out to us.
Whatever this is, headed our way, I don't think that our military community, which is a big portion of the government, is going to react to it the way we would hope they would.
I'm afraid they're going to react to it in the wrong way.
Is that a reasonable fear?
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It's a reasonable fear, but it will have no effect.
Meaning, it's expected exactly what they will do, but it will have no effect.
Our military will be powerless to do anything other than express their fear, do a military dance, and that'll be all.
But they will be ineffective in trying to do anything because this is not going to do anything to us.
If something's coming our way, I wouldn't want there to be an automatic negative reaction.
In other words, I don't want to go to war with somebody who hasn't declared they want to go to war with me.
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Neither do I. And neither do my colleagues.
And from what we understand, whoever is out there, and we have a pretty good guess who they are, and that's in my book, too, they have been here before.
And they have been watching over this planet and others for a very, very long time.
Interestingly, the KU band is exactly where the satellite dish outside my home is transmitting right now to get the signal around the country to the various affiliates, KU band.
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Well, you might just get another signal.
Only problem is all you're going to hear is just a bunch of beeps and squeal.
With all of these different sources seemingly disconnected, but saying the same thing, how could a person not follow it?
I wonder.
All right.
We're going to get back to Dr. Shargill in just a moment.
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My guest is Dr. Lee Chargel.
He wrote a book years ago about all of this.
How many years ago did you write that book?
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I actually wrote the book.
I began writing it in 1991.
I finished it in 1993 and rewrote it again and finished it last year, and it'll be out on March 1st of 1997.
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You're going to get these photographs to me, correct?
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Yes.
What I'm going to do tomorrow is I'm going to go up to the university and take photos of the photos, blow them up, and send them to you the following day, which will be Wednesday.
Wildcard line, you're on the air with Dr. Shirgel.
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Hello.
Hi, Art.
Hi, Dr. Shirgel.
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
Some of the research that you've been doing, do you have any background in physics?
In physics itself?
Yes.
Well, it's some, but not much.
Okay.
I was curious if you thought that there will be a quickening, as Log puts it, very soon within a half a year or so, where the weather patterns will change very abruptly and possibly due to something other than the Hail Bob companion.
Do you believe that?
What's your view?
I believe in something that I call the awakening.
And I believe that it's going to affect a lot of people on this planet, but it won't affect the planet itself.
You do a great service, and I'd just like to thank you.
Sir, as far as the anomaly, do you think it could be like a rudder?
I understand that.
I know that the lady asked you that, but, you know, it could be or maybe riding along with the coattails of the thing, like, as you said, with the ripple effect of the gravity going through space, it could be coming with the comet, and that's why it's coming.
Well, this is definitely an object that has been built by an intelligence.
Okay, about the discrimination now against all the people like Richard Hoagland, Chuck, Art Bell.
I want to know what are the people who don't believe anything is going on right now.
What are they going to do when they find out it really is happening?
Look, I'm just a talk show host, but I have, I don't know how many people now, like you, Doctor, who are saying the things that you're saying, and I just can't ignore it.
Plus, I've got this hard data that's beginning to come from the astronomical community.
Well, I guess I shouldn't say hard data until I really get it, your photographs included, but I've got all of these astronomers who are quietly saying, oh yeah, something's going on.
Oh, no, we don't want to talk about it yet.
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Well, a lot of people don't want to talk about it because a lot of people right now in the scientific community are sitting on a fence.
They don't want to come out and say definitively what they believe it is because if it turns out not to be that, they are afraid that they're going to look like.
But something is there.
We all know that something's there.
We're already receiving something from it.
We have no way to communicate back as of yet, but I believe that we will find a way to communicate back to this thing.
And it's going to pass us and just keep traveling on.
But the message that it delivers is something we must listen to.
First one, this is more directed to Art than to you, Doctor.
Do you believe the thing that's happening on the 5th of December in Egypt may give us an opportunity to communicate with this interstellar craft that's hanging out up there?
Now, you said that the communication on this thing is on the K-band, and your satellite dish that you get your signals back and forth so that you can communicate with all the different affiliates in the program.
The link that I have from here to Oregon, as well as the link from Oregon to New Jersey, is on the K-U-band.
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Okay, why can't they, if they've been able to come from one galaxy to another interdimensionally in a craft that's so sophisticated, why couldn't they communicate on that same band so you could communicate and we could ask questions and we could figure out what's going on?
It shouldn't be that difficult.
Well, it would be like trying to talk to an answering machine.
HAARP is ostensibly something to heat the ionosphere, an ionospheric heater.
And they say the two reasons for it, which may be pure baloney, who knows, are to study radio communications and to map underground tunnels and bunkers of all things.
In order to get underground, to get enough radiation underground after coming off the ionosphere, you would have to penetrate everything above ground, like people.
Don't think I haven't had a mixed bag of emotions, too, over all this.
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I can imagine.
I mean, it's excitement, it's fear.
I was shaking actually the first time you started it.
I was terrified when I first started hearing all this information.
I was shaking uncontrollably.
And then when they mentioned that this object may be hollow and this other information I've been hearing, I get this feeling for some reason that if all this is true about actually protecting us, that maybe this object would actually encompass the earth or surround it.
It seems so large that it would protect us from whatever would be heading our way, possibly.
I guess I can only say to my audience, look, what would you do if you were in my position getting all this information, all these different sources, would you not report on it?
Would you keep it under your hat?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Dr. Chargell.
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Hi.
Hi, I'm calling from Duluth, Minnesota, listening to W. First time callers.
I am, and this is a fact, the first person to write in black and white, that was my doctoral thesis, the molecular genetic mechanism for production of variability in the light and heavy chains of immune cooperatives.
I did this in the 60s.
And that's how we fight viruses and bacteria.
But a number of us, a reasonable large number of, we the people, some of us occasional listeners to and participants on various radio and TV talk shows, are beginning to raise a very important question.
All this hype being done for a sinister, evil purpose.
Like what?
And are some of us, including Hovood and yourself, a nice gentleman, allegedly possibly being used in an allegedly possible sinister attempt to a hidden agenda by the head of America's new secret police, the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco.
Oh, actually, in a way, that's a very, very good question.
Doctor, the crop circle phenomenon, it can all be Doug and Dave.
You say the message coming from this object is mathematical in nature, and a lot of people have looked at crop circles and have seen them as mathematical messages.
Any comments?
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Well, my only comment right now would be that we haven't had the opportunity yet to compare the images from Hale Bob to certain crop circle images, but I'm certain that it will be done very soon to see if there's any correlation between crop circles that have appeared recently and in the past where that is in the public domain.
Well, the only thing I can say is that I'm sure that they're going to be compared mathematically to see if there is a correlation between one image and the other.
Is your guest saying that the dinosaur's extinction is like a result from this radiation wave?
I think so.
Doctor?
Yes, that's what we believe that it was the result of a large pulse of radiation passing over and through the Earth, which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs.
It was, in essence, they all were fried.
But wouldn't it affect smaller species, like amphibians?