Joyce Riley, a former USAF medevac nurse, links Gulf War Syndrome to alleged U.S. chemical/biological weapons transfers to Saddam Hussein (1983–1990), violating the 1972 Geneva Convention, and dismissed military alarms—14,000 malfunctions, per her claims. She cites experimental vaccines (anthrax, botulinum) causing immediate collapse in troops and a mycoplasma incognitus theory by Dr. Garth Nicholson, with 65% of 10,000 tested veterans showing signs, despite Pentagon’s 6,500 death admission. Symptoms, including deformities in 67% of affected veterans’ children (per Nation Magazine, Jan 1995), spread via blood, sex, or perspiration, even to asymptomatic carriers, suggesting systemic military cover-ups prioritize cost over lives, with doxycycline ($5/week) denied. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm Mark Bell, and I've got something kind of special coming up for you here shortly.
But I want to lay down a little caveat here at the beginning of the program.
Last night in the final hour of the program, I had to bail out a little bit early.
My wife suffers from asthma, and she is in the middle of a very difficult time.
And if I need to go, I need to go.
So if you suddenly get a repeat program, that'll be the cause of it.
Hopefully, everything will be all right.
In a moment, we are going to talk about something that we have not talked about before, or at least in great detail on this program.
The Gulf War Syndrome.
Of course, we've had a number of stories about it recently, but you're going to hear probably more than you want to hear about it this morning.
There are some really frightening things going on that may affect more than just the men and women who were involved in Desert Storm.
And that's why you're going to want to keep your radio where it is.
Because while it directly affects them, it could affect you and your loved ones.
All right, this comes from a listener, and it will serve to introduce my guest.
Art, I heard your first news story tonight, referring to last night, about the newly increased figures for chemical exposure of Gulf War troops and your very appropriate comment about how the government lied to us.
It seems there was also extensive biological exposure and contamination of troops, and it is contagious, now spreading to military families, and soon the rest of the population.
You should contact Joyce Riley, registered nurse, BSN captain, USAF inactive reserve.
She flew medevac from the Gulf, started feeling sick shortly after returning home, was hospitalized six months later, and took over a year to recover.
Then she started trying to find out what had made her so sick.
What she's put together is a very disturbing story of government hypocrisy, duplicity, corruption, and cover-up.
In other words, business as usual.
But that's not new or news.
What is news here is that if what she says is true, and she has some pretty good documentation, this time the government lies could very well end up exposing most Americans to a deadly disease and allowing them to become debilitated, even die.
All the while, the government continues to deny the disease, and a simple treatment does exist because the government created the disease and sold it to Iraq, violating Nuremberg and Geneva safety conventions.
So following that good advice, I contacted Joyce Riley and from Houston, Texas.
It is probably more tragic than what has been read on the air just now.
I do thank whatever listener sent that to you.
I have no idea who it was.
But the story that you're going to hear tonight and your listeners are going to hear is probably the most tragic, not of the 20th century, but of America's history.
Let's deal first with what the people are seeing on television.
Whether it was the 60 Minutes program that aired, or it was NBC, not tonight, but last night, they showed the detonation of the chemical warfare facility in Iraq.
And originally they said, well, a few hundred might be affected.
Then it was a few thousand.
Then it was 20,000.
And I hear people talking about as many as 100,000, but even that is nothing.
I think what you are going to find is there are upwards of 400,000, even more than that possibly, 400,000 plus, that have been exposed to not just chemicals, which you're hearing on the news media, but biologicals.
And the biologicals are the real issue that we want America to hear about.
We want America to be aware of, because this is the disease that can affect all people, not just the Gulf War veterans.
The chemical and biological weapons, the chemical-specific, were provided in my evidence from 1983 through 1989.
I do have evidence coming that shows that they were provided through 1990 and possibly 1992.
Now here is where the rub is.
The problem is that we violated Geneva Convention regulations of 1972.
Not only the United States, but Iraq was a signatory to this agreement.
The United States provided to an unstable third world country biological weapons that had the ability, literally, to annihilate our military or to make them sick, to give them a time-release disease that they would bring home and share with their families.
Now the biological weapons are not addressed by the media right now.
You did not hear about biological weapons on 60 Minutes last night.
You are not hearing about them on Nightline tonight as we spoke.
The problem with biological weapons, to tell all your listeners, is that it is a communicable disease.
And now, I was trained as a flight nurse to take care of any type of victims of biological or chemical warfare.
And we did not know this fact.
And I was shocked to find out after the war, and I did not find out until three years later, that the United States military did not have one biological detection monitoring system in the entire Persian Gulf.
Not one.
Our troops were sent into the theater of operations totally unprotected and totally unmonitored with respect to biological weapons.
The anthrax that was given to our troops has now been shown to be of questionable, if no, effectiveness because there is only one type of anthrax vaccine that is made in Michigan.
Now, they have never proven that the anthrax vaccine that we received was effective when there is aerosolized anthrax at stake.
And that was what Saddam Hussein had.
So it has never been proven.
And those of you who are students, I would encourage you to get Senate Report 103-97.
This is a Senate report that tells of the ineffectiveness of the anthrax, of the botulinum, and whether or not it should have been given in the first place, whether or not our troops are sicker because they received it.
I don't know, Art, that we will ever know just how much the biologicals versus the anthrax vaccine versus the PD pills, the white pills that everyone talks about.
I don't think we will ever know.
And I really don't think that it is important at this point in time.
The important thing is our troops are sick.
They need treatment, and they do not need to be given psychiatric diagnoses as they are right now.
From January to July of 1991, I served as a flight nurse in a reserve unit, Kelly Air Force Base, as the 32nd Air Evacuation Squadron at Kelly Air Force Base, Texas.
A very strange paresthesia, numbness in which you lose feeling and use of a portion of your body.
This would come on at intervals.
It would go away.
It was very difficult to explain.
And when you did explain it, people said, oh, gee, that sounds pretty crazy.
Well, it wasn't crazy, and I would not accept the fact that, oh, it must be stressed, it must be this or that.
I knew this was a very bizarre symptom.
I would lose use of one extremity or the other, paresthesia, numbness, incredible pain, muscle Pain.
Now, let me say here briefly that when I talk about muscle pain, we're not talking about a Charlie horse.
We're not talking about some simple problem that we might experience and it goes away and we're just wanting to complain or get some type of compensation.
We're talking about something that is incredibly severe.
It is a bizarre type of pain.
It gets worse and worse and worse.
And that was what happened to me until I was in the hospital, had practically lost the use of my legs, had incredible excruciating pain.
And at the time, they finally did some MRIs and found that I had demyelination over seven spots in my brain and spinal cord.
Demyelination being that of which the myelin sheath comes off of the nerve endings, and it's similar to multiple sclerosis.
I found out that I was no different than what Gulf War veterans are being affected with right now.
In fact, my diagnosis from discharge from the hospital is multifocal central nervous system disease, etiology unknown, meaning that there is no cause or they do not know what the cause is.
Now, right now, we are seeing incredible numbers of multiple sclerosis diagnoses among 27, 29, to 31-year-old young men and women.
Just last week, I got three letters from Gulf War veterans who have been diagnosed with MS. There are many others that are being diagnosed with Guillain-Beret and ALS, amniolateral sclerosis, which is Luke Gehrig's disease.
Well, you see, the reason that I believe, and I have to say at this point, I don't have all the answers.
My God, I wish I did.
I wish I could just pull it out of the hat and say, hey, DOD, Pentagon, here's the answer.
Now treat our troops.
But we have had to search.
We've had to sacrifice everything that we have to try and find out what we have now.
And we are finding this.
The evidence shows that biologicals and chemicals were shipped to Saddam Hussein.
At least 18 to 20 biological agents were shipped to Saddam Hussein from 1983, like I said, through 1989.
Now these biological agents were used in something called a Soviet doctrine, the Soviet doctrine of multiple chemicals and multiple biologicals.
They were mixed in the scuds.
When the scuds went over at 200 feet, our patriots went after them, obviously, and we saw the fireworks on TV.
There were biologicals and chemicals that rained down on our troops.
Now, I have to tell you, I even have the transfer information of the batch numbers that were shipped to Saddam Hussein, as well as the companies that provided the biologicals to Saddam Hussein.
This information can be obtained.
One can study it and determine it.
But the problem is the Pentagon has known this since 1991.
George Bush said, if during the course of the Gulf War, and this was just prior to the beginning of it, they were to use biologicals or chemicals, we would respond with nuclear weapons.
A lot of the diseases that you talked about are, you know, that's what's making this hard, is that there is no exact disease.
And that makes me wonder, some of the symptoms that are talked about, you talked about numbness, night sweats, typical, right?
Loss of appetite, swollen lymph nodes.
All of these symptoms, it occurs to me, Joyce, are also found in AIDS.
And with an apparent opportunistic sort of disease hitting a lot of these Gulf War vets now, isn't it possible that we have some form of autoimmune deficiency here?
I think that when we are looking at the Gulf War illness, what we are talking about, according to Dr. Garth Nicholson of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, is we are seeing a disease that mimics AIDS.
It cannot be detected on the Western blood or the Elysi test.
One does not sero convert positive to AIDS.
However, according to Dr. Nicholson, and he is a Nobel Prize nominee, I am not, obviously, and I am referring to his science.
He states that 40% of the HIV envelope gene has been inserted into the nucleus of the mycoplasma, thus giving us something called mycoplasma incognitus.
He has written a paper about it.
It has appeared in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
This does mimic AIDS.
Thus, the pictures that I have seen of many of the Gulf War veterans that are dying look like an AIDS-related disease.
There is weight loss, night sweats, headaches, rash, joint pain, lymph node swelling.
Yes, they do mimic AIDS, but we are talking about death here.
I'm not talking about just some lymph node swelling and some rashes.
I'm talking about the deaths of approximately 15,000 Gulf War veterans, of which the Department of Defense now admits to 6,500 deaths.
And I would suggest you actually turn the volume on your radio up a little bit and listen just a little more closely because what might have been thousands of miles away and not affecting you is now at home here and may indeed affect us.
Yeah, well, that doesn't make me a sir, believe me.
Anyway, Joyce, I'm recalling a long time ago, back when we began talking about the AIDS epidemic, there was testimony of a Senate hearing in which it was discussed how would one construct a virus that would attack the immune system.
They worked on this.
There's absolutely no question about it.
They worked on this.
And I'm wondering if what we're dealing with today might not be the fruit of that labor.
And by the way, I want you to know and everyone that is listening that I utilize documentation.
Part of my objective has been to bring forward the story of the Gulf War illness with documentation.
I do not use opinion.
I do not use my own conjecture because it is of no value.
But there is something called House Bill 15090 or Public Law 91-171.
Now this is very important.
You just mentioned it, and I think we need to discuss this because I believe this plays a very big cornerstone, a very big foundation, part of the foundation in this whole thing.
This is an appropriation bill of 1969 for the year 1970.
It was the subcommittee of that Committee on Appropriations, the House of Representatives, 91st Congress.
Now George Mahon of Texas was chairman of this, and I would encourage your listeners to get a copy of Public Law 91-171, but more importantly, you will need to get the congressional hearings that go along with it.
Let me read just a couple of sentences from this.
It is entitled Synthetic Biological Agents.
Within a period of five to ten years, it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired.
Ladies and gentlemen, I would ask you, does the name Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome ring a bell?
Now, I am again, I am quoting from a congressional hearing where it says, this would differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organism.
Most important of these is that it might be refractory or damaging to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.
Now, in this particular document, they stated it would take five years to produce it and $10 million.
A FOIA request was done.
It was determined that a virus was made, it was produced in 1975, and that it did take $10 million.
However, they would not disclose the name of the virus.
I would simply remind you that the first evidence of the gay wasting disease in New York and San Francisco was in 1975.
This art is a Department of Defense appropriations for a synthetic biological agent.
Of course, we have no way to know whether batches of that went anywhere or even existed.
It's all black project stuff.
But you do know, don't you, that certain batches, in fact, did go to Iraq.
Now, I want to ask you something about that.
It is this.
The United States had a great deal of interest in seeing to it that Iraq kept Iran in place, particularly during the early years that you talked about.
And no doubt, we provided them with weapons.
We provided them with probably all kinds of stuff.
And I guess we might have provided them with some of this stuff.
Could it have been for that reason?
I mean, after all, they are now obviously our enemy.
And I don't think, I hope we're not sending it over there now.
But then we might have done it with Iran as the reason.
The issue is we both violated Geneva Convention regulations.
Now, whether or not we were trying to beef up Iraq in support of Iran, well, the issue is, the truth is, we sold it to both countries.
We sold it to many other third world countries.
I have a document here in which the Sigma Aldrich Corporation of St. Louis has been fined $400,000 this past July for the sale of biologicals to third world countries without a license.
You see, they have been violating the export license requirements here in the United States with these biologicals.
There are several companies that have done this, and I would submit to you that there is now a class action suit on behalf of Gulf War veterans that has been filed.
Now, I am not a party to this suit, and I choose not to become a party to it because I don't want anyone to misunderstand or misinterpret my being on your radio show or promoting the issue of the Gulf War veterans.
But there is a company that has been identified, the American Type Culture Collection out of Maryland, out of Rockland, Maryland, that has sold biologicals to Saddam Hussein.
It is essentially a government contractor, I guess you would say yes.
It is the American Type Culture Collection out of Maryland.
They are nonprofit.
Now, they sold biologicals to Saddam Hussein with full recognition of the U.S. government, of the Department of Commerce, and the Communicable Disease Center in Atlanta.
However, I have evidence coming to me that shows 90 through 92.
So that these biologicals have been sold to Saddam Hussein in a time period, and I believe, without any hesitation, I can say that they were sold through May of 1990.
Now you will understand that war was essentially declared in August of 1990.
The issue is that we sold anthrax, we sold Astridium botulinum, we sold SPAF, we sold strep, we sold E. coli, and we have a list of those class three pathogens that were sold to Saddam Hussein.
I mean, you're talking about a disease that's now back in this country, and it is my understanding that whatever in the hell it is, other people are now beginning to get it.
People who are not there, relatives, loved ones, correct?
If we concocted something like this, knew that he had it, and knew that he would use it, for us to sell it to him is absolutely nothing short of suicidal.
Honestly, I do not know the answer to that question.
It is beyond me.
It is beyond any training.
It is beyond any health care information or education I could possibly have consumed in my past that I could even project the reason why.
But here is what I have a problem with.
We brought these troops back here, and even before they came back, they were complaining of symptoms of gastrointestinal problems, severe problems.
I'm not talking about just throwing up once in a while.
I'm talking about severe problems.
Many of them were Aerovac out to Rhine Main, Germany, and they were not treated.
They were given peptobismol-like drugs.
They were given Motrin for the joint pain.
They were not treated.
They were brought back to the United States, and now, Art, at least, according to the people that I have talked with, 90% of our military has now been given a psychiatric diagnosis, a diagnosis of some type of mental disorder that is putting them out of the category of a physical illness so that the VA can say, gee, we don't see any Gulf War illness.
80% of the British Gulf War veterans, because we had coalition troops that served, 80% of the British Gulf War veterans have been labeled psychiatric problems.
And 90% recently in the New York Times just this week of the Czech troops have been given a diagnosis of a psychiatric problem.
I do not believe that it totally protected them because there are sick and dying Gulf War veterans in the Czech Republic.
Now, we need to talk about the Czech issue because this plays a very, very big part in this.
The alarms that went off during the Gulf War, the United States alarms, the American military, the colonels, etc., the commanders of the units said, oh, disregard those alarms.
They're malfunctioning.
Our equipment is not good.
However, the Czechs had the state-of-the-art equipment.
When the Czech alarms went off, it was fully known by all the NBC NCOs, and I say NBC meaning the nuclear, biological, and chemical NCOs, that the Czech alarms were the gold standard.
Czech alarms went off.
The Czechs told the Americans that is registered on the NBC logs, the nuclear, biological, and chemical logs of Schwarzkopf.
Those are in the property or the responsibility of Central Command.
He was the Commander-in-Chief, Central Command.
We have logs showing, and these were previously classified and have been declassified, logs showing that the Czech alarms were sounding.
The American troops were told, do not go to MOP4, don't worry about it.
It's all a mistake.
So the Czechs did go to MOP 4.
Now the New York Times, Phil Sheenan, in his excellent article that just appeared, stated that the Czechs were in MOP 4 and they looked over and saw the military troops unprotected.
They asked the question of what is going on and the American commander said, we don't want to panic our troops.
Now think about this, America.
That just appeared in the New York Times.
We're talking about men's lives.
We're talking about their future.
We're talking about the health now of a country.
And we were told, don't worry about it.
We don't want to scare you.
So they didn't go to MOP 4.
Now, the problem is we have Gulf War veterans that did don their MOP 4 gear and that didn't don their MOP 4 gear that are sick.
But you see, they didn't realize they were exposed to biologicals.
Now, here's the problem.
Biologicals, when you take your suit off, they get all over you, but they stay alive.
So just so you take your suit off and your mask off doesn't mean the biologicals have gone away.
They're in the equipment.
They're in your tents.
They were in the scud missiles, so they're exploded everywhere.
They're in the sand.
And we now know that the silica binds to the biologicals bind to the silica in the sand for at least 10 years.
According to Dr. Nicholson, and I have not personally talked to any of the emissaries from the countries, but Dr. Nicholson has, and he has found that in the Persian Gulf theater, and I say the theater of operations, meaning Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, United Arab Emirates, Oman, every country over there surrounding the theater of operations, excluding Syria.
We have no figures on Syria.
He tells me that 20% of the people in the Persian Gulf area are now ill.
Oh, my God.
I have had no one that has been able to combat that or to deny that figure.
I received a call from the Beirut Times, who attended one of the programs that I did showing the documentation, who agreed with this.
I have even so much as gone to taxi drivers in New York and asked them, those from Iran and Iraq, what are you seeing over there?
It has been verified again.
In fact, I have been told that in Iran, there are more babies being born deformed than there are being born normal.
So I have also been told by Dr. Nicholson that an emissary from Iraq has stated that 500,000 Iraqi individuals, citizens, have already died of the Gulf War illness and another million are sick.
I have no personal way of documenting that other than the reporter from the Beirut Times did tell me that she believes that that is appropriate.
So we're talking about a problem, not just in the United States.
Apparently, all right, let me stop you there and now ask you this, because there are going to be a lot of people sitting out there saying, well, you know, I'm really sorry about all the Gulf War vets, but, you know, it doesn't affect me.
That's not necessarily true, is it?
In other words, whatever it is, is back here now in nearly every part of our geography because the Gulf War vets came home and went home to all parts of the U.S., Canada, Hawaii, Alaska, everywhere, right?
And so what evidence is there that whatever the hell this is, it is now beginning to spread here?
So we're getting reports now from gyms and from tanning beds and from, I just got a call about a daughter that died who was an aerobics instructor, 27 years old.
She did not serve in the Persian Gulf, but she had all the symptoms and she had the disease essentially what the Gulf War veterans have.
So we're seeing an incredible transfer of this disease, the mycoplasma incognitus, which is the first biological agent that has been identified that is causing the transfer.
Now, I have received a phone call from California, Southern California, the very western side, in which a physician called me and said, I have 100 patients that have the Gulf War illness.
I've done specimens.
I've sent them to the county.
I've sent them to the state.
He said, Joyce, I'm telling you we have a communicable disease here.
And I said, I know, sir.
He said, I saw your video the other night.
He said it explains exactly the disease we're looking at.
And he said, for the first time in 17 years of practicing medicine, he said, I am scared.
And I said, sir, you have reason to be scared because there is no means to treat this disease.
There is no means to stop this disease other than the doxycycline, which is only effective if it's used early on.
So we have a communicable disease that is passing throughout the population.
And Art, I would Have to ask you, why are we all of a sudden hearing about fibromyalgia?
Why are we all of a sudden hearing about this incredible amount of chronic fatigue?
At this point, of everything that I have said to you thus far tonight, I am 100% sure of what I have said.
The sad part is, literally, every morning I wake up, I pray to God that what I know is not true.
But I have studied it, I have learned it, and I have probably talked to over 500 very sick and dying Gulf War veterans.
There's no doubt in my mind this is true.
Whether America wants to admit to it or not, or whether the Pentagon wants to admit to it or not, is not going to make it any less significant.
The truth is the truth.
You know, there can be a million lies.
There is only one truth.
And the fact that the Pentagon has been coming out on a daily basis, altering and changing their facts and figures, is only more evidence of what we know has been happening.
Well, the world saw what Saddam Hussein did to the Kurds.
He guessed them.
We saw the bodies.
It was a big, big story, and then it just sort of went away.
But to me, that clearly demonstrates capability and intent and willingness to use those kinds of weapons.
I mean, obviously, he did it.
He would do it again.
He was facing the big war, so I always thought he would have used those weapons.
And I was surprised at the time that a lot of what came down in Israel, a lot of what came down over the heads of RGIs, we didn't get any news of biologicals or chemicals.
Central Command kept a running log of everything that happened in the war with regard to nuclear and biological chemical incidents.
They have reported several incidents, one of which that I utilize in the program of documentation that I show, which is the use of mustard gas.
One individual had mustard gas burns.
This is important because along with that, I received many reports from the Aravac personnel that Aravac individuals to Rhine, Maine, that had chemical burns.
There were also many individuals who told me of autopsies that were done at Fort Dix, or I'm sorry, at Dover, that had chemical burns as the cause of death.
Those autopsies are now missing.
There is not one report of any chemical death, but we have a number of people that attended those autopsies.
So we know that chemicals were used.
We know that biologicals were used.
There are several incidents of where 50 camels were found dead in one particular place.
The significance of that being that they had dead flies.
Anytime you find all dead animals in one area, you need to get out of it and immediately suspect that it is chemical or biological.
I have individuals that have called me and told me about the agricultural sprayers of anthrax.
This is something you have not heard about in the news, but you will be hearing about it.
The agricultural sprayers that transmitted the anthrax to our troops, of which the government has full knowledge of this and have been withholding.
So obviously there is no question biologicals and chemicals were used.
During the war, these are sprayers that can be loaded onto a truck, onto an aircraft that can disperse anthrax via an agricultural sprayer.
These were utilized on several different occasions, which appear to have provided the transmission of the anthrax, along with the fuel air bombs, which we know the fuel air explosives were provided by the United States also.
We have the names of the corporations that have provided that.
I've had many reports about fuel air explosives, that they were used by Saddam Hussein and possibly, and I won't go any farther than that right now, by the United States.
Now, I know from the reports that I have received from the pilots that transferred the biological agents aboard their aircraft to Kuwait, that they were transferred, that they know that they were used.
You know, the issue is not, was it fuel-air bombs, was it scuds, was it immunizations?
The issue is we have dying troops.
The problem is we have a disparity here between what the Pentagon is saying and what we're seeing among our military.
They are dying.
You have not heard about one report of a dying Gulf War veteran yet on the major news networks, and one has to ask the question, why?
Some of them cite cardiomyopathy or enlarged heart.
The title idiopathic cardiomyopathy, meaning the heart enlarged, we don't know why.
And the lay term for that is now being called the exploding heart syndrome.
We believe and have seen that when the mycoplasma incognitus attacks the heart, it causes the heart to enlarge.
They have a very fast pulse rate, and they end up getting a heart essentially the size of their chest cavity.
Upon death, an autopsy is done and a very large heart is found.
Well, obviously, that is not a quote-unquote Gulf War illness.
That is simply cardiomyopathy.
However, it really is a byproduct of the Gulf War because we're seeing these 27-year-old men that are dying of this and also 27-year-old men that are on transplant lists to receive heart transplants.
And I have received phone calls from many of them.
The other thing that we are seeing is severe staph and strep infections.
I have in front of me pictures of a young man who went to the Persian Gulf as a very healthy, robust paratrooper.
And when he returned, he had an incredible staph infection.
The family was told by the VA, we will have to remove his entire skin.
It was done.
I literally have those pictures in front of me of this young man.
Anyone who wants to see the story about this can see the American Legion magazine of August 6th, in which they removed every inch of this man's skin and said that they would transplant him with pig skin.
They did.
Yes, sir, they did.
It did not work, and he died about three weeks later.
Two weeks later, his child was born.
Now, here is the insult of all insults.
The family applied for compensation for this young child that was born, who is now three years of age.
And I don't mind telling you, it's the Raleigh and Arley Siebskin family of Plainfield, Iowa.
They have given me permission to use his name.
Their young son, Scott, was 27 at the time of the war.
Yes, he died a horrible, incredibly torturous death.
But this is the insult of all insults.
When he returned, the VA told the family that he was a healthy young 27-year-old man.
When he went to the Persian Gulf, he must have wanted to think himself into a young man.
There were multiple biologicals and multiple chemicals that were used.
So we have a multiple of symptoms and diseases.
He basically said, we have done everything we can, and that is not true.
I am sorry, but I would like to go on record as saying Dr. Stephen Joseph should be removed from that position and he literally should lose his license to practice medicine.
If I had my way right now, I would somehow get the Pentagon, the Department of Health and Human Services to admit to what happened during the Gulf War and begin immediate, immediate treatment of the Gulf War veterans, of their children, and of their spouses.
If they understood these weapons were being used and they refused to issue orders to protect the troops, there is a treasonous act right there, a very serious one.
First of all, there is an antibiotic that has been proven effective.
It is called doxycycline.
If it is used early on, it does tend to abate the symptoms and treat the disease.
Now, unfortunately, we have waited too long.
I know Dr. Edward Hyman went before the Presidential Advisory Commission that Clinton has initiated, which essentially is a delaying tactic to uncover the information with the Gulf War, which is my opinion.
I have testified before them, and I certainly believe that.
But he stated, there are many troops that would have been alive today that we could have treated had the treatment been told to them early.
Now, doxocycline, this is very serious what I'm going to say, Art.
Doxocycline is very cheap.
It's about $5 per week to treat a Gulf War veteran.
The Veterans Administration and the Department of Defense facilities have denied, openly denied Gulf War veterans the use of doxycycline to treat this disease.
All right, Joyce, let me stop you because I need to understand something here.
Doxycycline, an antibiotic, I could understand that could be used to treat symptoms of some sort of chemical agent, but it would not be used to treat a virus, would it?
In effect, it will treat the mycoplasma incognitus.
Now, the mycoplasma incognitus we find to be the biggest offender.
Is it the cure-all?
No.
Is it a treatment for everything?
Absolutely no.
But it appears that about 65% of all Gulf War veterans are positive for mycoplasma incognitus, which, by the way, the test can only be done outside the DOD facilities.
They are not allowing that test to be done.
So we are finding Gulf War veterans that are positive for mycoplasma incognitus that could have been treated by doxycycline.
I just learned tonight in talking with a sergeant from Phoenix that they are now allowing Gulf War veterans to be treated with doxycycline if they demand it.
And I've been getting out a lot of information.
We've been passing out from the American Gulf War Veterans Association the information on the treatment of the disease to where Gulf War veterans all over the country are demanding this antibiotic be given.
I know that there is a husband and wife team that are both quite ill.
They have not been able to work for the last three months.
They have been totally debilitated, almost in bed all the time, have lost about 50 pounds, at least the husband has.
And they told me last week, I'm sorry, a month ago, they called me and told me that after taking three months of doxycycline, they are now able to return to work.
Now, this is five years later, so I can't tell you whether or not it's too late.
I am not a physician.
I am not practicing medicine right now.
But again, I would refer you to the February 22nd Journal of the American Medical Association for your information on this.
And I would encourage Gulf War veterans to go to their doctor and find out about doxycycline.
But what happens if you go to your doctor?
You go to your doctor and you say, I've got the Gulf War disease.
I need doxycycline.
I got this information from the American Gulf War Veterans Association.
The doctor says, hey, I watch Dan Rather.
I watch CNN.
There is no Gulf War illness.
The Pentagon told us that.
I cannot treat you for a disease that does not exist.
Here is something that troubles me more than I can tell you.
Gulf War veterans have gone to feed stores to get tetracycline to treat themselves and their family.
I do not recommend it.
I do not want to see Gulf War veterans forced to do this, but I know of many Gulf War veterans that either do not have the money or cannot get the prescription that have gone to feed stores to purchase vibromycin for cattle or tetracycline for fish.
Now one thing I want to tell you, Art, is that on 60 Minutes, when they played the video that was brought to them by one of the Gulf War veterans that had taken this home video inside the bunker, is they showed sarin gas with yellow canisters on them or the canisters with yellow bands significant for chemicals.
I wonder if it's possible to get some of that video and to computer enhance it and go in and actually see where it does say something about the U.S. Is it just that the shot was at a distance or just that they didn't show enough of it to show that?
They wanted America to see the U.S. markings on this saring gas, but they failed to do that.
No, it can be done.
I've received calls from many of the individuals that were in the 37th Engineering Battalion that did detonate that bunker, and they relayed to me that it was very clear that you could see the U.S. markings.
And I have had this longer than the Gulf War, and I have gone to the pet store and gotten tetracycline, and I've had all the symptoms, and something's got to be done.
Yes, there's several reports of, unfortunately, of veterans that have received this disease through, let's say, inoculations or for whatever reason they've come down with this disease.
It is not unusual to hear this story.
It is not unusual to hear that these individuals have the very same thing that we are seeing right now.
I will tell you that there has been evidence of the experimentation of this mycoplasma since 1970.
I can show the first example of it being tested on individuals that happened to be in the civilian community in 1970.
So we know it has been out there.
We know we've had Gulf War veterans and prior to that that have been tested with this or it utilized upon them.
And in fact, I have before me a document that came from Dr. Erison out of the Pentagon, in which he has written an article, and I make this available to people.
I'll make it available to your webpage.
It's called A Cover-Up of the Gulf War Syndrome.
And it's by Dr. Erison, who is an aide to the Undersecretary of the Air Force, USAF Pentagon, in which he gives the facts of the Gulf War.
Then he gives the reason why it was covered up by the government.
The official cover-up is because of the fact, number one, they say they didn't want to panic the troops, but he says it is because the cost of providing appropriate medical care would be prohibitive on the part of the government.
Could there have been strategic reasons why we didn't tell them to Cover, folks.
It's incoming.
In other words, once you have said to the troops, these agents are being used, then a response of the kind that we threatened and the Israelis threatened would be almost mandated.
So that's why I say, could there be strategic reasons why they weren't told?
I would only have to guess that there is, because for no other reason can I imagine why we would put our troops in harm's way in the fashion that they were.
I have no answer to that particular situation.
I think it is abominable.
I think there is no excuse for it.
And I think that it would have to be only of a negative nature that one would do that.
A couple of years ago, we had a weird disease that's pretty much like what Joyce Riley is prescribing.
A lot of us got really sick, and we weren't exposed in any way to the Gulf War, except that my best friend was inoculated with the typhoid vaccine because she was in National Guard.
Our doctors didn't know what to do about it, and they treated us with tranquilizers and so forth.
Some of us didn't get completely well.
I still have MS type symptoms.
I'm functional.
It was about a year after receiving amoxicillin and Paxil and quanothin that I stopped being busy all the time and falling over and having some other problems.
Well, Carl, I have to tell you that what you're experiencing is what we are getting tremendous numbers of reports from both National Guard, reservist, and active duty individuals, is that there is some reason, and I cannot say why it is, but these vaccinations and immunizations are creating problems that are very similar to MS. Now, again, I am not giving medical advice, but I am seeing large numbers of these individuals, and I don't know why.
But you see, the drug I mentioned earlier, the drug Paxil, and you're being treated with Paxil, they are finding that they are chronic fatigue-like symptoms that go into MS symptoms.
Yes, I believe there's a corollary, and I think it is time that the CDC investigate this and find out why, because there are innocent people all over the country that are being affected with this disease.
And I applaud you for your stamina to keep after this, and I can only hope that this will help to bring it out as to what is really going on.
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I contacted our county and state health departments, and they said there were too many symptoms for it to be a disease.
I wrote to the CDC in Atlanta, and they never wrote back, not even a form letter.
We had some interesting symptoms, such as the anorexia part of it.
We felt like we had a gunny sack full of food already stuffed down our throats.
Well, it is both because the proximity to the person is really what the factor is.
Yes, now, well, let's separate it.
A lot of the babies, in fact, Nation Magazine gave a statistic January of 95 that 67% of the babies born to affected Desert Shield, Desert Storm veterans have deformities.
Of the sick Gulf War veterans, we're talking about babies born to sick Gulf War veterans, 67%, are deformed.
Now, that category is the congenital problems.
Now, I'm not referring to that right now.
I'm referring to the babies that acquire the disease, either born after or before.
They are coming down with the rash, the joint pain, the muscle aches.
They're coming down with failure to eat, inability to gain weight.
And one Gulf War veteran who was with the 82nd Airborne told me, he said, you know, he said, I literally lay awake at night with these incredible muscle pains, sharp muscle pains that are so bad.
And he said, I lay in bed and I wake at night.
And he said, and then he said, I hear my child down the hall crying and saying, Daddy, make my legs quit hurting.
And he's only four years of age.
And he said, it brings me to tears because I know I can't stop my pain and I know I can't stop his.
So we're finding these symptoms like joint pain.
I know of a two-year-old now who has acquired a rheumatoid type disease where she can't even open and close her hand, just like her parents now.
They seem to be getting the disease by acquiring it and being around the Gulf War veterans because we're finding adopted children that are getting it, stepchildren, and grandchildren.
And the way that I believe that they're getting it is because the way the familiarity in the family is.
You hug and kiss each other.
You play.
You sweat together.
You eat and drink after each other.
And that is about the only explanation that we can come to: is that that is the transmission route of this disease.
Well, it possibly could, except that we have the larger number of the Gulf War veterans that are ill first, and of course then their animals becoming sick later.
So the disease is predominantly appears first in the Gulf War veterans.
The worst of what we've seen is that there were chemical releases that we didn't know about and we're now beginning to know about and up to, what are they saying, 20,000 affected, I think, at the moment.
But my God, you're talking about a disease that's here, back here, and spreading like crazy.
The issue is, is the evidence there to support it?
And I will tell you that on the affiliate that you have here in Houston, KTRH Radio is the only station that has had me on the air, the only one in Houston.
Obviously, George Bush is here, James Baker, Baylor College of Medicine, and Tanox Biosystems, which have been implicated in this whole scenario.
And by the way, have been sued as a part of the lawsuit on behalf of Gulf War veterans.
So this is a very tender area to talk about this issue.
But I commend KTRH for doing this, and I would encourage all your listeners, call your media and ask them, why are you lying to us?
Why have you not told us about the deaths of Gulf War veterans?
Well, up until now, it has been myself doing this and providing information to Gulf War veterans.
I provide all information to Gulf War veterans free of charge.
There is a video, a two-hour documented video that we put out to Gulf War veterans to explain to them why they're ill, what happened, and all the government documents that I have to support this.
The voicemail is full right now, but it will be open later.
It is 713-587-5437.
That's 713-587-5437.
I can give my address.
And what I want Gulf War veterans to do is tell me what unit you are with, where you are stationed, your symptoms, and I will send you the 100-page document package and the video and the song by Dave Riddell that has been dedicated to Gulf War veterans called Where Are the Voices That Care?
Well, I hesitate to disclose a lot of this because I am concerned that certain people will want to get access to that database, but I will tell you that it's well over 500 individuals that have contacted me that are quite ill, well over 500.
So then you probably are able to see, because of the fact that nobody will admit this, they really haven't begun to put together a database that an average medical doctor can get his hands on, have they?
The Pentagon has approximately, now every time I call them, they give me a different figure, but cumulatively, about 160,000 Gulf War veterans have petitioned the VA or the Persian Gulf Registry to tell them that they are ill, 160,000.
By the way, as I mentioned before, none of them have been treated by the VA.
They are simply being examined and evaluated, which is exactly what Dr. Stephen Joseph said on TV tonight.
All right, I want to move through some calls here if we can.
On the first time caller line, you're on the air with Joyce Riley.
Good morning.
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Hi, Joyce.
My name's Bob, and I'm in Southern Oregon, and I'm a Gulf Lor vet.
And since I've been back, my wife's been having some really weird symptoms.
She's been having incapacitating headaches with numbness of the hands, and her feet and ankle joints have been really sore to the point where she could barely walk.
And I was wondering if I could be asymptomatic and a carrier.
All right, Joyce, I hate to bring this up, but I keep seeing these parallels to AIDS, to the HIV virus, because it's now thought that people can carry the HIV virus, infecting others, and yet not come down with AIDS themselves.
Well, I think at this point I need to tell you something very important that probably is very difficult early on for anyone to accept, and especially with all that everyone has heard right now.
But according to Dr. Nicholson, the reason we are seeing the similarity between the mycoplasma incognitus and the AIDS virus is because, according to him, and he is a Nobel Prize nominee, 40% of the HIV envelope gene was injected deep into the nucleus of the mycoplasma.
So what we are seeing among Gulf War veterans is an AIDS-related AIDS-type illness in which they eventually will have the wasting away, but they do not serial convert with the ALISA test or the Western blot test to AIDS.
I worked for MAC SOG, Military Assistance Command Special Operations Group, as a gunship pilot.
And when it was not generally recognized that we were going into Laos and Cambodia, which we were doing, and several occasions, our troops on the ground, our mercenaries on the ground and our special forces on the ground, would get into a very sticky situation.
And we'd go into an area.
And you being in the Air Force, I think you might know about a substance.
I don't know the technical name, but we used to call it sawdust.
Yeah, there's so many violations of the Geneva Convention.
It's time that it stopped.
You know, our troops have been used as guinea pigs.
What this man is talking about is so tragic because his whole life has been affected by this, not just Agent Orange, but whatever else.
I mean, there is an unbelievable document that has come out from the government that I would encourage your listeners to get, Senate Report 103-97, in which they state the following.
Hundreds of thousands of our military have been experimented upon without their knowledge.
It goes into not only this, but Operation Whitecoat, which was the experimentation on Seventh-day Adventist.
That's in the document.
It's about a 40-page document.
You can get it from your senator.
You know, this is just one thing he's talking about, the peripheral neuropathy.
If we created this and we sold it and we knew it was going to be used and we allowed our troops to be exposed, then we are, in essence, committing suicide.
Although Dr. Stephen Joseph mentioned conspiracy three times as he was trying to deny the GoPro illness tonight, we're talking about intentional neglect and criminal intent here.
It is time America recognized they have crossed the line in the sand.
And she had brought up the idea, or she had told us that from what she understood, there were times when, because so many soldiers had been deployed at, you know, such a small amount of time, they would run out of these human vaccines, and they would use vaccines that were veterinarian vaccines instead.
Often at times against the soldiers' wills, they would give them the opportunity to have the shot.
And if they refused it, they would have two MPs hold them down and give it to them anyways.
Another thing, issue, too, is we were in a microbiology class together, and our teacher said that because the vaccines, if they were once intended for veterinary use, could cause various mutations, cellular mutations, that could result in illnesses that we, you know.
Well, obviously George Bush had full knowledge of this.
I will also say that General Schwartzkopf and General Colin Powell had full knowledge of this also.
In my estimation, they have turned their backs on their troops.
They are not there for them.
Of course, General Schwartzkopf has also had prostate cancer, which many of the Gulf War veterans have been treated for since the war.
So they had full knowledge.
James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, Cheney, and now we're looking at the new administration.
George Clinton has had this information, as well as John Deutsch, Shelley Kashville, and William Perry.
Now I will tell you I have a letter that was written to William Perry, the Secretary of Defense, on February 9th of 1994, in which Senator Don Regal stated the following to Secretary of Defense William Perry.
Our troops are sick and dying.
It's a communicable disease.
We sold the biologicals to Saddam Hussein, and it is a communicable illness.
This information I have that went to William Perry.
It was not addressed, and nothing has been done.
I will tell you, just as I mentioned earlier, that Bob Dole had this information.
Every sitting senator in 1994, in February, heard this information.
You need to hold your senator's feet to the fire.
What has he done for your troops?
And again, I want to repeat, Bob Dole's wife is Elizabeth Dole, who controls over 50% of the blood donations in this country.
Riley, I'm kind of shaking up, so please forgive my voice here.
But could you please give us more information on Peter Kawaija's investigation update on Ishan for Duty International with a joint venture with the United States of America?
Dr. Ishan Barbouti is the primary supplier of chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein.
Dr. Ishan Barbouti hails from Bokaratan, Florida.
He is an Iraqi national.
However, he started the Pharma 150 plant in Rabda Lipia for Muammar Gaddafi.
That plant, that chemical warfare plant, was then cloned in the United States in Boko Ratan, Florida.
There were chemicals that were provided to Saddam Hussein with full recognition of the U.S. government.
I have a newspaper article right here that appeared in the Houston Chronicle in which George Bush was asked to come forward for a deposition to be questioned about his involvement, George Bush's involvement, with Dr. Ishan Barbuti.
This was in 1993.
The Department of Justice stepped in and said he would not need to testify.
But yes, Dr. Ishan Barbudi unfortunately has died.
And he has died under eight feet of concrete right now in London for burial for religious purposes.
So it is said.
However, there are reports of him being spotted throughout the world.
But I will say that this is a very important part of this whole story, which we haven't gotten into because the chemicals are a very real issue, as well as the fact that Ishan Barbudi and the United States government had full knowledge of all of this, and much more about this is going to be coming out in the near future.
Joyce, how could it be held secret or away from the mainstream press that 67% of the sick Gulf War veterans are beginning to have children with severe deformities?
What they did was they told us that the fact that the Iraqis had the availability of anthrax was classified secret, and they wouldn't put it in our medical records because of the fact that they said then our medical records would have to be classified secret.
Well, anyways, they told us we were supposed to be getting a series of three shots.
We only got two for some odd reason.
And we were also told that, you know, we would be going into an area that could possibly be infected with anthrax, but the shots were voluntary.
You know, there were armed people, but, you know, nobody in my unit refused.
Another thing I wanted to ask Joyce is, here's an odd thing.
I've got some good buddies who came down with some really severe symptoms of this.
I was in the same place at the same time.
Like I said, I spent a month in Kuwait, was all over the country, and I was in Riyadh and Dahran for scud missile attacks, and other than some mild flu symptoms that last couple of months, I'm pretty much asymptomatic.
And, you know, we have to realize that people have different immune systems, and we're exposed to probably different types of things at different times.
Also, if you ever received any course of antibiotics for the flu or whatever from 91 on, that may have helped you.
So I really can't answer, and I don't know.
Just thank God not everybody is ill with this disease.
But unfortunately, and by the way, which unit were you attached to?
The sickest units, let me just tell you right now, are the 82nd Airborne, the 101st Airborne, the Big Red One, the 3rd AD, and the 1st Marine Division.
In fact, I would tell you that the big red one in Fort Riley, Kansas, I got a call from a public health nurse there that the babies on base that were born to Gulf War veterans, many of them got a rash either at birth or very short after that time.
And she had called me asking what was the link to this.
So rashes are very, very common.
They are rashes that will not go away with any type of cream.
They come back if they do go away, and they usually get worse.
She's seen, or she claimed that we engineered this bacteria, and then we sold it to Hussaint.
And I just have a comment.
I'm a pre-med student, and right now I've got a microbiology class.
And one of the things that we're going over right now is how it's pretty easy to genetically engineer different types of bacteria using just basics, you know, bacillus, staph, you know, strep, and then, you know, E. coli is like a lab rat that we work on everything.
And we've even engineered E. coli to produce human insulin.
And he said that our professor told us that they've got grad students now at the university who will make these things on their own, or not on their own, but they know how to make them.
And what I'm wondering is if, you know, and they can get the raw products from the same, you know, from a company.
And I'm wondering, couldn't Hussein have just made it himself and then?
Well, I guess they carry things as UPS and others.
I mean, they don't even know what's in it.
They just carry packages from point A to point B. I get FedEx here, Federal Express all the time, just about every day at my house.
So West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hi.
Hi, Art.
This is Pat from Southern Oregon.
And this is kind of a little bit off the subject away, but kind of in the same way, same line as what you've been talking about, about what the government's capable of.
I was drafted in 1968.
And I became really a aware when I was in infantry training at AIT that the people around me were very low on the intelligence scale.
And so I kind of checked into it.
I found out that these people all had the same prefix, the first two numbers of the prefix for the U.S. number.
And it meant that no way, shape, or form could these guys ever join the service or begin it.
And they drafted these guys by hundreds of thousands, trained them like there was Cowboys and give them a rifle and said, well, we're allowed to get the headspot.
And they had a code number on it and a code name.
The code name was Operation Clean Sleep, but I can't remember what the code number was.
But I've had this confirmed twice by two people that were in the telegener service, and they talked to me, and they told me that that really went on.
One guy was in the Air Force and one guy just at the Army.
My husband lives in Vietnam, and he has all the same problems that this man that called you has.
And also, we just had a child that she's 15 months old now, and she only has one lung, and she has pulmonary spinosis in her right lung, and her one lung that is functioning is not functioning normally.
It's got small airways and stuff.
And my husband, I was wondering that this disease of the Gulf War veterans sounds to be a lot like what the Vietnam veterans are experiencing.
And if there's anything anywhere that I could get in touch with anyone, if Joyce knows of anyone that I can get in touch with that could tell me a little more of, or my daughter's doctors a little more about her case, because she is the only child that has been born with this type of deformity in her lungs that they know of.
They cannot, and she was in Texas Children's Hospital.
Well, we are finding, and if you will look in the special investigation that was done by Life magazine, it tells about the Gulf War babies that have been born deformed.
It's a color picture on the front that shows a child with no arms, no legs.
And in there, they discuss the babies that were born with some of their organs in the wrong place and something's missing.
So other than that, I really can't say, but, you know, this has got to stop.
You know, the experimentation that has gone on with our military is costing lives and costing heartache that most Americans know nothing about.
Joyce, a lot of people are going to sit out there and say, all right, look, we're beginning.
This is some sort of mass psychological rush-in of information.
Everybody's got a little ill here and there.
Somebody knew somebody was in the Gulf War, and it's all a bunch of psychological mumbo-jumbo.
How do you, other than the evidence that you have about what went over there, absolutely prove conclusively, numerically, statistically, that this is not so much psychological mumbo-jumbo?
Well, Dr. Nicholson has tested over 10,000 Gulf War veterans and found about 65% of them positive with the mycoplasma incognitus.
This is really our basis of information, getting the letters from the Gulf War veterans.
And many of them send totally unsolicited letters, not knowing anything about the Gulf War illness, not knowing anybody else that served, but their stories are all alike.
Another thing is that we have a study from the Veterans Administration that was essentially smuggled out to us that showed that there has been a 600% increase in tumors in the active duty military from 91 to 94.
I just want to thank her very much for what she's doing.
I've never served in the military, but it's really sad that these are people that have fought for our country, and this is how our government has feeded them.
Well, it has been proposed that Novoshock, if you're familiar with what Novoshock is, that's a Russian biological agent that has been provided to, we believe provided to Saddam Saint, probably a pinhead of that can kill a million people in a water supply, yes.
NovoShock has been documented in scientific articles.
Yes, there's no doubt about it that it can go in the water supply.
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And if so, is it possible that mosquitoes could carry it also?
Well, I don't want to say that because there are Gulf War veterans out there that are listening right now and hearing this for the first time.
They're sick.
Maybe their spouse is sick.
Their child is sick.
I don't want anyone to believe that it is too late.
We want to know what caused this.
We want to know what the treatment is.
And again, I want to back up just one second.
I want to say the following.
America, your troops are sick and dying.
The Senate was made aware of this in 1994.
We are still at war.
According to Public Law 102-25, the war has never ended.
When you aid and abet the enemy, it is treason.
We are talking about murder.
I cannot overemphasize what I am saying to you because I talk to approximately 50 sick and dying Gulf War veterans and their families on a daily basis.
If you were to talk to these people, there would be no doubt in your mind.
You would wonder why in the world is the Pentagon doing this.
And one news release I want to give to you is that the video that I have done made its way to New Zealand.
The Secretary of Defense, the Secretary for Defense, the spokesperson for defense in New Zealand called me from the Christian Coalition Party last week.
He asked me, and his name is Lieutenant Colonel John Bryant of Wellington, and he stated, he said, is your video true?
He said, it's 1 a.m. in New Zealand and we just watched it.
Is this video true?
And I said, yes, it is.
He said, can you fax me the hard documents?
And I said, yes.
He said, because if it is true, we are going to, on behalf of the people of New Zealand, demand that our troops be brought home from the Middle East.
I received a news release from Lieutenant Colonel John Bryant, spokesperson for defense, dated 3 October.
New Zealand veteran of Gulf War illnesses.
And it goes on to say that they are wanting their Gulf War veterans treated.
America, you may not know about this, but the other countries do.
This has appeared, by the way, in the British press many times.
This information is out there.
We have got to take care of our veterans, and we have got to demand that the United States government, the Pentagon, and the senators be held accountable for what they have done to our people.
Well, we'd like to get $20 to pay for all the shipping and everything of the video.
If you would care to donate $20, like I said, it's free to Gulf War veterans, so you can write that address, Gulf War 3506, Highway 6 South, number 117, Sugarland, Texas, 774-78-4401.
Okay, and let me give out a 1-800 number if you want to order the video with a 1-800 number, 201-7892.
That's 1-800-201-7892 to get the video or the document package.
The document package is about 100 pages, and we ask for a $10 donation, and that's the documents that I have been telling you about to support the information that I'm giving you.
I will tell you that the phone starts ringing at 6 o'clock in the morning, and it doesn't end until the wee hours of the morning.
There are Gulf War veterans that are sick and have no one to turn to.
Here is the problem, is that they are now learning how sick they are.
They are learning their families are sick, and they are learning that their country has known about this, and they are now learning that they have to get treatment themselves and pay for it by themselves.
One figure I didn't give you in a government document that I include in this packet, Art, is that out of 700,000 troops that served during the Persian Gulf War, that's in the theater of operations, already 550,000 of them have been separated from the military.
Think about that, Art.
Four-fifths of our military have now been separated since the war.
But I would submit to you they are being medically separated because I'm receiving phone calls from E-4s all the way up to lieutenant colonels that are being separated after 18 years of military service with no retirement, no compensation.
This is not a positive thing to talk about in the military.
I will warn you, if you're active duty, do not go in and talk to your commander about it tomorrow morning.