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Oct. 22, 1996 - Art Bell
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Art Bell’s October 22, 1996, Coast to Coast AM episode covers Southern California wildfires (13,000-acre blaze), Gulf War chemical exposure claims (20K–100K troops affected), and FBI obstruction charges tied to Ruby Ridge. Callers debate chupacabra mutilations, Alzheimer’s research, and constitutional concerns like Clinton’s reelection, Medicare’s future, and potential Second Amendment repeals. Guest Chuck Harter returns amid conspiracy theories, while callers criticize media bias, Dole’s campaign, and Clinton’s tactics. Bell predicts Clinton’s legal troubles and speculates on alien intentions, linking Major Dane’s warnings to Malachi Martin’s Antichrist theories. The episode blends disaster updates, political skepticism, fringe science, and dark humor about government overreach, reinforcing Bell’s role as a provocateur questioning authority. [Automatically generated summary]

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art bell
01:17:57
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michael badnarik
00:44
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john b wells
00:28
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charlie in unknown
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joe in wisconsin
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rick meister gerhardt in california
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tim in denver
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tom in texas
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Fires Devour 30,000 Acres 00:02:55
unidentified
Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 22nd, 1996.
art bell
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening or good morning as the case may be across all these many time zones from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Island chains in the west, east to the Virgin Islands in the Caribbean, south into South America, north to the Pole, worldwide on the internet.
This is Coast to Coast A.M. I'm Art Bell and I bid you all good day, I guess.
Morning, evening, whatever it happens to be.
All right, well, I was originally going to have David back on again tonight, but I am not going to do that tonight because I'm not sure enough of what's going on in the Southland with respect to the fires.
Six firemen were injured Tuesday battling wildfires that we talked about last night all night that burned more than 80 homes now and consumed over 30,000 acres across Southern California.
Officials say the most seriously hurt firefighter had burns over 70% of his body.
And that many times means a death sentence.
The firemen were trapped in their truck while fighting a 13,000-acre blaze that threatens the celebrity enclave of Malibu.
Officials say the blaze is only 10% contained.
A firestorm in San Diego County has gutted at least 70 homes there, blackened 6,000 acres in Carlsbad and San Marcos.
A third large blaze in the Otay Mountains, southeast of San Diego, consumed 9,000 acres and forced the closure of a border crossing with Mexico.
I'm sure by now you've seen many of the pictures.
Literally tornadoes of fire.
The Santa Ana winds are presently dying out in most places, but it's a very unsure situation, and should the wind come back up again, so would the danger.
So for that reason, not knowing what might occur during the night, I decided to put the show off with David until we're sure we've got a night where it's clear.
So we'll do open lines tonight.
Anything you want to talk about is going to be fair game.
The Pentagon says it is notifying 20,000 U.S. Gulf War troops that they may have been exposed to chemical weapons.
Nicotine's Potential Puzzle 00:03:00
art bell
The numbers keep going up.
First it was 5,000, then 20,000 or now 20,000, and soon a lot of people believe it may go to 100,000.
Rashes, vomiting, night sweats, loss of appetite.
It's got to be something, I would say, wouldn't you?
So, once again, our government lies.
I really don't know what other word you can put to it, but it is a lie.
An FBI official, as I told you would probably occur, has now been charged with obstruction of justice in connection with the murder trial of white separatist Randy Weaver over the deadly 1992 shootout at Ruby Ridge, Idaho.
Justice Department sources said that E. Michael Cahoe, chief of the violent crime section at the FBI headquarters during the incident, has agreed to plead guilty to the charges and cooperate with prosecutors in their long-running investigation into possible wrongdoing by the FBI.
And for a long time I told people I thought there would be an official result to what occurred at Ruby Ridge, and so it seems there may be.
Get this, nicotine may prevent Alzheimer's.
What?
Nicotine does something good?
A new study indicates nicotine may help prevent Alzheimer's disease.
Case Western Reserve University chemist Michael Zagorsky says the drug found in tobacco appears to stop the formation of plaque in the brain.
The plaque is believed to play a role in the dementia of Alzheimer's sufferers.
The doctor stressed he is not urging people to take up smoking to prevent Alzheimer's study based on test tube research, not actual brain tissue.
Well, what are they going to do in places where smoking has been outlawed if they find nicotine is preventative to Alzheimer's?
unidentified
Hmm.
art bell
I wonder if somebody could get a medical excuse to be able to smoke.
From KPAY, our affiliate in Chico, California, they apparently just announced, and the follow-up to that story that I did, that two cattle were found mutilated, surgically mutilated, with no trace of blood, no marks in the area that would indicate people or someone was there to do that work.
Make of that what you will.
A 5.7 earthquake in central Alaska, about 115 miles southeast of Fairbanks, as we keep track of the swarming earthquakes.
Republicans Hold Congress? 00:04:52
art bell
And of course, we're in the political season.
This is an interesting poll.
According to CNN, after the first presidential debate, the question was: who do you believe to be more honest, Dole or Clinton?
The answer, Dole over 50%, Clinton around 30%.
So the people are saying Dole is the more honest of the two candidates.
But then asked, who would you vote for?
The answer, Dole, 28%, Clinton, 58%.
Now, this says something, does it not, about the American electorate?
On the one hand, in question one, they are asked, who is honest?
And only a third of the people say President Clinton.
But then they're asked, who are they going to vote for?
And two-thirds of the people, just about, say President Clinton.
Now, in my way of thinking, this says more about the people surveyed, or if you wish to believe it, representative, the electorate, than it does about the candidates.
Asked by Newsweek, who is the more negative or nasty, Dole gets about two-thirds, 59%.
Clinton, 11%, both of them, 13%.
Who has better character to be president?
Clinton gets 48%.
Dole 36%.
And 10% of the people said it makes no difference at all.
I am going to make my prediction for the election.
What I think is going to happen.
And we'll see if I'm right or wrong.
I haven't done very well with the stock market, so there's no reason to believe this will be accurate.
But here is my prediction for what it's worth.
Bill Clinton is going to be reelected, if not in a landslide, then by a great margin.
Republicans will hold Congress.
Now, I'm not as sure about this one, but I believe, and I will predict, the Republicans are going to hold Congress by a very slim margin.
The Senate will remain safely in the hands of the Republicans within a seat or two at the most.
Within a year after the election, the Clinton administration is going to, in my estimation, be buried in scandal.
So that takes my prediction about a year out from the election.
I believe Bill Clinton's going to win.
Republicans are going to hold on to both houses of Congress, and that within a year, a lot that has been suppressed before the election is going to begin to come out, and the president is going to be in trouble.
Somebody sent me a bumper sticker.
It was Mark.
I don't know where Mark is.
It simply says, if God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.
A little cynical, but it may be mainly right on.
Bob Dole has tried a number of things against Bill Clinton, none of which have worked.
Taxes, crime, most recently attacks on the Clintons' fundraising activities, the foreign donations, and so forth.
And none of it, none of it has worked.
If you look at the polls, and here we are under two weeks now till Election Day, they have widened for Bill Clinton, not the other way around.
You would certainly expect them to be tightening by now, but indeed they are instead widening.
And I wonder what you make of that.
Nothing Bob Dole has done, including the most recent fundraising allegations, and some of those are very serious about Lippo, the foreign donations, all the rest of that.
$425,000 from an Indonesian company.
Pretty serious allegations, really, but they are not going anywhere in the minds of the public.
unidentified
And that makes me circle right back to this survey.
art bell
The American people are saying, we know he is not the most honest guy in the world, but we like him.
He's our guy.
That's exactly, exactly what this survey is saying.
The Philadelphia Experiment Theory 00:15:21
art bell
All right, well, I've got a bunch of other stuff here for you, but I'll just kind of fit it in as I can.
A very interesting piece of email from a pilot out there, and we'll get to that.
unidentified
You're not going to believe what they're about to do in Australia.
art bell
Oh, my.
In Canberra from Canberra, this is incredible.
A lawmaker's call to wipe out all cats in Australia because they prey on wildlife raised howls of protest Friday from animal rights groups and the country's pet lovers.
Richard Evans wants Australia's nation, that is the entire nation of Australia, to be feline-free by 2020 and get this called this week for unleashing a fatal virus on wild cats that roam the outback, killing birds, native animals, and so forth.
He called for a law requiring pet cats to be neutered so they cannot breed and eventually will die out.
Until then, a cat registry register your cat and cat curfews.
Now, how do you put a curfew on a cat?
Should be put in place.
He said, quote, I'm calling for the total eradication of cats in Australia, end quote.
He told Parliament that while cats may be playful and affectionate around their owners, they are killing machines when out on the prowl in suburbia.
Evans blamed cats for the extinction of at least nine native species.
So he wishes to unleash a virus that will kill all cats.
And I've got a big problem with this.
We live in the days of international travel, air travel, and people are going back and forth, and business and commerce is going on all over the world.
And I can feature easily this cat virus getting loose and killing all the cats in the world.
Now, I suppose a lot of people who don't like cats wouldn't mind that happening.
But what do you think of the idea of unleashing a virus that would literally kill all the cats in one country?
Do you think it could be safely?
I mean, I don't live in Australia.
I don't like the idea of them killing all their cats, but I don't live there.
And so if it was contained in Australia, that would be one thing.
The question is, do you think it can be contained to Australia?
All right, what I'm going to do is open the lines.
We're going to have an open line kind of night tonight.
Anything you want to talk about, anything at all, is fair game.
Last night we devoted to the incredible, terrifying fires in the Southland.
And I'm sure we'll get more reports tonight.
So if you wish to update us, that is fine.
Would love to get an update.
If you want to talk about anything else, you certainly are welcome to do that.
Deformed frogs now in Texas.
I've got a fax here from a man who found two deformed frogs down in Texas.
Unfortunately, his dog ate them both.
It's not a joke.
He really did find them.
But his dog, his Rottweiler Gulf, gulped them down, and so they're not available for evidence.
Otherwise, we'd be reading a real story about deformed frogs in Texas.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
Mr. Bell, please.
art bell
Yes, sir, that's me.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I like to talk about Flight 800.
art bell
All right.
What do you want to say about it?
unidentified
Well, Mr. Bell, you had a guest on Dr. Richard Hoagland.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Correct.
art bell
Correct.
unidentified
And he talked about a friendly missile.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And now I hear that there's something about the implosion from the airplane itself.
art bell
Well, mechanical failure.
unidentified
Yes.
which kind of throws that stuff Well, I don't know.
art bell
I don't think they've decided on anything absolutely yet.
Have you heard they have?
unidentified
No, I have not.
I'm just saying that the last time I heard, I listened to the show as often as I can.
I work days, so it comes down in my area very late at night.
But the last thing I heard was that it was a mechanical failure, which blows Dr. Hoagland's theory out of the water, correct?
No.
Why not?
art bell
Well, they did not announce the absolute cause.
They just announced they are now thinking.
Yeah.
So how does it blow anybody's theory out of the water?
In other words, until they determine the actual cause, when they issue a story, sir, that says they think or they're leaning toward, that should be registered in your mind as different than this is the cause.
You see what I'm saying?
unidentified
Correct.
art bell
Okay.
So no theories are blown out the window.
As far as I know, all theories are still alive.
unidentified
But the friendly missile theory, which was Dr. Hoagland's original idea, I believe.
art bell
It's not a doctor, just Richard Richard.
unidentified
Yes.
Didn't you refer to him as Dr. Hoagland?
art bell
No, sir.
You did.
unidentified
Okay.
I'm okay.
I'll stand corrected.
art bell
So to answer your question, no, it doesn't blow anybody's theory until they determine what the actual cause was, sir.
Everything is still possible.
unidentified
So what is your thinking then?
Where do you stand?
art bell
I am not a investigator, so I really don't know.
Do you have a theory?
unidentified
Do I have a theory?
My personal theory?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Well, apparently at one time we thought that there was something in the airplane, the aircraft itself, that set it off.
art bell
Well, that could be a bomb.
That could be a mechanical problem.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, you must have a theory.
art bell
What do you think?
Why must I have a theory?
unidentified
Well, I'm not saying you must have a theory, but you must have some idea.
art bell
Do you demand that I have a theory?
unidentified
Do I demand it?
No, I don't.
Good.
I'm just asking your personal insight.
art bell
Look, I do a talk show, and I don't investigate aircraft accidents.
There are people doing good, scientific, hard work on all of this, and I'm sure that eventually we will get some kind of an answer.
I hope so.
unidentified
And you've had those people on your air.
art bell
Well, I also have Major Dames on who said that it was a mechanical problem, but you probably didn't hear that show.
unidentified
Well, so which way do you lean?
art bell
Goodbye, sir.
I'm afraid that for you or for anybody else, I don't lean in any direction at all.
I also saw the NBC picture of what was purported to be a missile, and there were 150, 200 people who thought they saw a missile.
Now they say that could have been a fuel trail that first went down and then burned from the bottom up toward the airplane and made it look like a trail of a missile.
Mechanical problems?
A bomb?
A missile?
I don't know.
Any of the above are possible.
And I don't think I'd care to venture a guess because that's all it would be.
unidentified
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Toast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
To Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from the 22nd of October, 1996.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the Best Talk Radio in the night time.
No brag, just back.
We're the best.
And it's because of all of you, and I want you to know I appreciate it.
Here's another bumper sticker for you.
Art, the American electorate is saying, of all the low-down, dirty, rotten, sleazy deals, I like yours best.
Remember the bumper sticker last week?
Why vote for the lesser of the evils?
Vote for Satan?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hey, Art.
Let me just turn my radio down.
art bell
Oh, that's good.
Tell us where you are.
unidentified
I'm in Santa Monica, California.
art bell
Santa Monica.
unidentified
I was just wondering, you know, you talk about the Philadelphia Experiment, and some of your listeners like myself aren't familiar.
We're kind of young.
And would you mind just giving me a brief overview?
I just caught some tidbits.
art bell
Holy mackerel.
That would be really hard.
They made two movies, The Philadelphia Experiment and The Philadelphia Experiment 2.
It was an experiment alleged to, during the Second World War, try to make a ship disappear.
unidentified
Okay, so is it kind of like Mad Markham?
art bell
A different scale, but the same idea.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Like Madman Markham, yes.
unidentified
And they were using energy forces to do it?
art bell
They were using magnetic fields, extremely strong magnetic and rotating RF fields to affect this, yes.
unidentified
And the last question is, like, what was the end result, supposedly?
art bell
Well, it depends on what you believe.
I would recommend you go out and rent a movie, The Original Philadelphia Experiment.
Okay, thank you.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Right.
Thank you.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
How you doing?
I'm doing.
Good.
Hey, the deal with the cows, it was chupacabras.
art bell
Now, how do you know that?
Well, you don't.
unidentified
Sounds like it to me.
art bell
You mean down in Chico?
unidentified
You mean Chico?
Yeah.
art bell
Well, it doesn't appear to have been humans.
unidentified
Well, that's what I think.
The Randy Weaver deal, that was a setup to begin with.
art bell
That's my opinion on that.
I always thought so, too.
unidentified
And, hey, how about some fast blast tonight?
art bell
Maybe later.
unidentified
Yeah, we don't hear that anymore.
I miss it.
art bell
Well, it's when I get in the mood.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
You're doing good, Art.
art bell
Thank you for the call, sir.
I always said that I felt the Weaver situation would end with indictments, and people always told me, no, no, no, no.
They've got the fix is in, you know.
And that was so clearly what it was and a setup that I really did think it would end that way, and so it would seem it will.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified
What do you think's going on with all these white supremacists?
art bell
What do I think is going on with them?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
They think the white race is superior.
unidentified
Yeah, but I mean, do you think that they're going to try to overtake the country?
art bell
No.
unidentified
No?
art bell
No.
Are you a white supremacist, sir?
No, I'm not.
Are you worried that they're going to take over the country?
unidentified
Well, I'm a little concerned about it.
They've been caught in all these places blowing up in Oklahoma City, and they seem to be very determined.
art bell
Okay, I asked you to turn off your radio there, sir?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
art bell
Would you please?
unidentified
Okay, it's off.
art bell
That's good.
Somehow it came back on.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
It must be a different kind of radio.
So anyway, you're worried they may take over?
unidentified
Well, I don't think it's possible, but they sure can cause a lot of trouble.
art bell
Well, they are doing that.
They are a very small, horrible little minority, and I don't think they're going to take over anything, sir.
unidentified
Oh.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Right, take care.
But they may march around in fatigues.
They may blow up something hither and yon.
But in terms of white supremacist taking over America, no, I'm not worried about that.
Are you?
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Art, how you doing?
Okay.
Hey, okay, have you heard of flammable drinking water?
art bell
No.
And I don't know that I want to.
Flammable drinking water.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I just thought on the news real fast.
art bell
Where?
unidentified
I'm in.
I'm Rob, and I'm in Springfield, Illinois.
Just basically, it was a news flash, and it's just a flammable drinking water, and they were holding a lighter to it, and it was on fire.
art bell
Oh, no.
Cool.
Did they happen to say where it was?
unidentified
No, I was hoping maybe you had heard about it or heard something about it, you know.
art bell
No, it's a good experiment for people to try, though.
If your water ignites, gee, you need a filtering system.
unidentified
Yeah?
art bell
At the very least.
I can see it now.
Reservoirs catching fire all over America.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
You never know.
Okay, one more thing.
Joe, everything that's in your newsletter, you ought to put on your webpage if you really want to get the information out to everybody.
art bell
Well, we're doing the best we can, sir.
unidentified
It's just an idea.
Dead Can Dance 00:15:36
unidentified
And one last little quick thing.
Have you ever heard, there's a band called Dead Can Dance.
I know you did the reverse speech.
Yes.
And he used his children to do the backwards stuff with the kids to see what it sounded like.
The band, what they do is the lady, it's great moody music for your show, first of all, but the lady sings in kind of a gibberish, and she uses her baby as an influence sometimes.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And yeah, it's real strange music.
Just check it out.
Dead Can Dance.
art bell
Dead Can Dance.
Sounds like my kind of music.
All right, sir.
Thank you.
Dead Can Dance.
Flammable Drinking Water.
Now, that's a new one.
Has anybody else out there seen a story on flammable drinking water?
Well, you know, I haven't tried putting a match to mine.
You all might try it out there.
I mean, do it safely, of course.
Get a little tin and put some water in and see if it torches up.
Bad sign.
If your water burns, that's certainly a bad sign.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
That's me, all right.
unidentified
Hey.
art bell
Hey.
unidentified
Rusty in Kansas City.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
You're blacked out here tonight.
art bell
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah, we got a snowstorm, man, and we cannot get you here.
art bell
Well, I heard that there had been a massive snowstorm in Kansas City.
How much snow is on the ground?
unidentified
We've got about six inches, six to eight inches, depending on where you're at.
art bell
Well, that's a lot of snow in Kansas City.
So what's KCMO doing?
unidentified
Well, they're running one of your dreamland that you had just before you went on your last vacation here.
art bell
Well, you know what happens?
The satellite dishes fill up with snow.
And when they do, they are no longer dish-shaped any longer, electrically.
In other words, the snow acts as a reflector, and they don't work.
unidentified
Well, I was trying to catch you here on another one, and I'm catching you out of San Antonio.
art bell
W-O-A-I.
unidentified
But it does not seem that I'm hearing the same program as I just clicked in and you were still talking.
I just flipped my radio.
art bell
Well, we have a delay system, sir.
Oh, okay.
unidentified
So you were just talking to a gentleman about a dead, a group that sings the dead.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Okay.
I had a couple of quick things I wanted to throw out at you.
One, I called you about a year or so ago on one of your fast tracks and said that the quickening was the earth's reaction to the blemishes of man.
art bell
That's pretty much right on.
unidentified
Two things that I wanted to ask you, or one thing I wanted to ask you about, and the other one is I wanted to comment on.
One was, is Miss Linda Howell that you have on Sunday nights?
I don't get to hear Dreamland each Sunday.
I'm trying to get me a real talk.
Right.
She talks about the cattle mutilation.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And you talked about some of those cattle mutilations.
I wanted to know, or if you could ask her, has she ever correlated or done any study on the cattle mutilation along with the texts that are back in Leviticus and Exodus that were sacrifices mandated by the Lord?
art bell
All right, well, I will ask her that.
unidentified
Okay.
And the other one was, is Dark Skies.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Very interesting.
art bell
Oh, it was on again this last Saturday because the World Series got washed out.
unidentified
Right.
Did you also?
I wanted to throw a little something at you about that and ask your audience about this.
Did you, the thing that I'm getting from this is that the grays are sort of infesting humans to cause dismay among the planet to where it might be easier for them to come and take over since they may not have such a military force.
art bell
Well, I'm not sure that you can conclude exactly that yet, but it does look as though it's going that way, doesn't it?
unidentified
Right.
This is a little off the edge here.
art bell
All right, last item.
unidentified
I wanted to ask you about this that concerns that dark sky.
Did you see Louis Farrakhan on Ted Coppel?
art bell
No, but I heard all about it.
Thank you very much.
I heard all about it.
I know what he said.
I know what Ted said.
And so I'm very familiar with it all.
Farrakhan is an interesting person.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yeah, hi, Art.
Hello.
Hi, this is Ken in Las Vegas.
art bell
Hi, Ken.
unidentified
Yeah, I really enjoy your show.
I haven't talked to you in a while.
Here's a good topic to choose for your show.
Did you watch Frontline tonight?
No.
Okay.
The title for Frontline was Why Do Americans Hate the Press?
Yeah, that was the title.
And a lot of possible reasons is because the mainstream media, especially those in Washington, D.C., are believed to be more of a society group, high society group, and more of sort of an intellectual high society group that is out of the world.
art bell
The intellectual elite is what you're trying to say.
unidentified
Intellectual elite, Ivory Tower.
And, Mike, my question to you, since you're also, you know, you're a major member of the media, do you think the media elite, the Washington, D.C. type media, you know, the major networks, do you think the media elite are out of touch with the needs, with the concerns of the people?
art bell
In other words, no, I don't think it is the job of the media to be in touch with the needs of the people.
That is the job of our politicians.
They are definitely out of touch.
The media is hated for many reasons.
I don't hate the media.
I don't necessarily praise the media, but I think they do an okay job, for the most part.
I watch most of the major media, read most major newspapers, and I think they do a pretty good job myself.
I think a lot of the so-called hatred comes from the fact that a lot of the people disagree with whatever is being said in whatever major media.
They disagree with it, so they hate it.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Thank you.
art bell
You're welcome.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
This is Art Bell.
art bell
Good guess.
I'm the only one here.
unidentified
Well, I'm calling.
I'm on the East Coast, and I've never heard your program before.
art bell
Where are you?
unidentified
South Carolina.
art bell
South Carolina.
Well, I'm out here in the middle of the desert.
unidentified
I'm just curious.
I don't believe I've heard a talk show host with such arrogance and such patronizing rudeness to callers who are just kind of innocent callers and call again.
What is your problem?
art bell
Who are you referring to?
unidentified
Well, everyone you've spoken to.
The poor guy who called about the airliner being down.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And he refused to.
art bell
I believe he asked me, sir, if this latest statement didn't blow Richard Hoagland's theory out of the water.
And I said no, because it was not a determination.
It simply is how they are leaning.
Now, where did you detect rudeness in that?
unidentified
Oh, well, I thought that that was a reasonable response.
But when the poor guy said it was a doctor so-and-so, and he said, well, I thought he was a doctor, and you said, no, sir.
art bell
He is not a doctor.
That is correct.
unidentified
as if there's something wrong with the guy you can simply the idea there was that you were so rude to him as far as the rest of the conversation no I corrected him I said he is not a doctor.
art bell
Richard Hoagland indeed is not a doctor, medical or otherwise.
Has no doctorate, and so the title is inappropriate.
unidentified
Well, yeah, I can understand that.
art bell
Well, where do you see rudeness in that?
unidentified
Well, I don't think there was a case for putting the guy down.
art bell
I didn't.
Sir, I didn't.
I did not.
I simply corrected him.
unidentified
Yeah, and then on the Randy Weaver thing, after you told the guy that you didn't offer opinions about these things, then you turn right around and say, you know, my opinion has always been about the Randy Weaver case.
It was best and so.
art bell
That is correct.
unidentified
Yeah, but you put down the first guy the second time you put it in.
art bell
No, I didn't put him down.
I did not put anybody down, sir.
I corrected him.
That's it.
unidentified
And then when it came to the guy who was calling about the white supremacist, you were rude and patronizing to the poor guy.
art bell
He asked me whether I thought the white supremacists were going to take over the country.
And I said no.
unidentified
Yeah.
I felt that.
art bell
In what way do you see rudeness there?
unidentified
Well, it's your tone and your spirit, Rock.
I mean, Mr. Bell.
You give the impression that somehow an innocent question is a stupid thing to do.
art bell
No, I'm sorry you take it that way.
I didn't feel that way about it.
You took it that way, apparently.
I don't feel that way about it.
unidentified
I'm not coming across.
You also, on the question about the web page, the fellow just asked a simple question.
Sir, we're doing the best we can.
As if he didn't think you were.
art bell
We probably have more information out, newsletter-wise and on the web than anybody I know of, as a matter of fact.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but I mean, all you have to do is tell him that in a nice way.
I thought I did.
I've been talking about Farrakhan, the poor guy simply, you cut him off.
art bell
You're incredible.
unidentified
Yeah, you're incredible.
First time I've ever heard you, but I was just tuning in and I thought, holy smokes, I don't know what this guy's problem is, but he's going to put down everybody who calls.
That's a way of insulting everyone.
So I don't believe I'll be tuning in anymore.
art bell
Well, in that case, have a good night.
unidentified
Yes, good night.
art bell
See you later.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Good morning.
I was wondering if you could please explain the Electoral College.
art bell
The Electoral College.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
The Electoral College is kind of a way for those who have participated in the party politics of getting a candidate elected to go to Washington and celebrate their victory.
And of course, they cast what is more of a ceremonial vote than anything else.
And generally, it follows what the electorate has done in the popular vote.
But it's pretty much a way for the people who participated, you know, at the top to go and celebrate their victory.
unidentified
Okay.
For some reason, I thought that the Electoral College were what elected the president.
art bell
Well, there are people who feel that way, that it is technically that way.
But it's really not, and they really do follow the electorate.
And I've heard a lot of people say, well, you know, they could go and do one thing after the electorate has done something else.
But I've never seen that happen.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
So that's the best I can do.
unidentified
Okay, Art.
Thank you.
art bell
Right, take care.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
tim in denver
Good morning, Art.
art bell
Good morning.
tim in denver
A quick little comic anecdote here.
On our local news, one of the anchor persons closed out her story last evening by saying Bob Dole remains beat up despite his campaign woes.
And then she corrected herself and said, I mean, upbeat.
art bell
Freud in there somewhere, I guess.
tim in denver
Yeah, kind of a Freudian reverse beach, maybe?
unidentified
Maybe so, coming out the front way.
So I thought that was kind of humorous, and I wanted to share that with you.
art bell
Remains beat up, huh?
tim in denver
Remains beat up.
art bell
Thanks for the call.
Sure.
Take care.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hello, Art.
Hello.
Hey, this is John from Evansville, Indiana.
art bell
Hi, John.
unidentified
Hey, how's it going?
art bell
I'm fine.
unidentified
Hey, yeah, I heard that guy giving you trouble a second ago.
art bell
Yeah, he did it the other night, too.
unidentified
Hey, can I give him a little message?
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hey, these, we don't want to hear you on here.
This is valuable airways, buddy.
art bell
Well, he may have noticed when he came on, nobody screened his call.
Nobody kept him from going on the air, nor did I prevent him from saying what he wanted to say.
If he's much of a talk show listener, then he would appreciate what that means.
Apparently, he isn't, and apparently he just wants to get me.
This is the second time he called.
He called the other night, too.
I'm beginning to get used to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
I mean, it's like your talk show, we're listening, and he's on there whining.
But, yeah, I was wanting to tell you something.
I saw a license plate the other day, and it said, oh, wait, what did that say?
About Art Bell?
It's like a bumper sticker.
art bell
Really?
unidentified
And it said something about vote is about voting.
And it was like, I think somebody made it to himself in a print shop.
It said, don't vote, not don't vote, but none of the above.
art bell
None of the above.
unidentified
It says the Art Belt Party, Art Bell Party, none of the above.
art bell
Yep, well.
unidentified
You got a movement.
art bell
That's what I'm doing.
Well, yeah, but see, not every state has that option.
Here in Nevada, we have that option.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
So for president, I will vote none of the above, but I will vote for Congress.
And I think right now there's a national movement to do exactly that that I began hearing about this week.
In other words, it's pretty obvious now that President Clinton is going to be re-elected.
And if we're smart, what we're going to do is to ensure there's a Republican check in Congress and see to it that continues for the next four years.
And believe it or not, we will survive it, sir.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
All right?
unidentified
Yeah, hey, why don't you take one of those cruises down here to Indiana?
art bell
Is that where you are?
unidentified
Yeah, Evansville, Indiana.
We get you out of a station in Kentucky across the river.
Well, you got a little riverboat casino?
art bell
Yeah, I was going to say though, sir.
Oh, you do have a river, Bob.
I was going to say, otherwise, cruising to Indiana would require more than an icebreaker.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
art bell
All right, thank you very much for the call.
We're going to break here at the top of the hour, and we'll be right back with more.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
Somewhere in time.
Somewhere in
time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from October 22nd, 1996.
art bell
Good morning, everybody.
Good to be here.
I'm Art Bell, and it's open lines tonight, still monitoring the fire situation in Southern California.
So we're not going to endeavor to have a guest this evening, just in case.
And we'll sort of just let it drift and go where you want it to go.
One absolutely fascinating poll taken after the first debate is as follows: Who do you consider to be more honest, Dole or Clinton?
Drug Testing Young Drivers 00:13:09
art bell
Answer, Dole, 50%, over 50%, actually.
Clinton, around 30%, or a third.
Immediately following that, the second question: Who would you vote for?
Answer: Dole, 28%, less than a third.
Clinton, 58%, just about two-thirds.
So, in other words, he's not honest, but we're going to vote for him.
Now, I want you to think about that a little bit, not as it relates to the two men, as it relates to those who answered the survey.
Are you still drinking tap water?
Well, you deserve better.
I had somebody call last hour and say something about seeing a story, I think it was in Indiana, about flammable tap water.
Have any of you tried to put match to your water?
unidentified
yikes the following is from pete and kathy this This is cute.
art bell
There were once two weevils.
One went to the big city and became a lawyer.
The other stayed home and thus became the lesser of two weevils.
West of the Rockies, you're on the RLO.
unidentified
Hello, Art Bell.
art bell
Yes, hi.
unidentified
Hi there.
I'm a grandmother from Portland, Oregon.
art bell
A grandma from Portland, all right.
unidentified
Right.
And I went down and saw you when you and your wife were here.
art bell
Oh, at the book signing.
unidentified
That was fantastic.
I never saw such a wonderful group of people.
art bell
It was.
unidentified
It stood for six hours.
I know.
art bell
It was mind-boggling.
unidentified
It was.
And by the time I got up to have you sign for me, I felt that you looked like a zombie.
art bell
Well, you know, I did the all-night program.
unidentified
I did.
art bell
And then without sleep, I flew to Portland and signed books from, I think, 12:30 in the afternoon to about 8:30 at night.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
So you're right.
I was a zombie.
unidentified
I saw you at 8 o'clock, and you two were just wonderful to the public.
art bell
We were like wet noodles at that point.
unidentified
It was great.
I have two things to mention: the flammable water.
Oh, yes.
In Washington State, a year or two ago, I heard on the news where they had built a park over a landfill.
And because of the gases underneath in the ground, when they turned the water fountain on, they had flammable water.
art bell
Not good.
unidentified
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I heard.
Another thing, right here in Portland, somebody has come up with the idea because of the drugs and the young folks, they ought to drug test the young folks when they go in for a driver's license.
And that's okay.
That's fine.
But why not test everybody if they're going to test just the young folks?
art bell
Well, I'll tell you why.
I think why.
It's probably because of the Fourth Amendment.
In other words, they probably figure constitutionally they can get away with it when it's a minor, but constitutionally, they probably cannot get away with it when it's somebody who's become 21, age of consent.
unidentified
Is that so?
art bell
That's just a guess.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
Well, it just seemed unfair to me that they would do it to the young folks and not others because there's a lot of young adults that were to test everybody, everybody who went to get a driver's license, how many drivers, percentage-wise, do you think would immediately be off the road?
unidentified
50%.
art bell
That'd lighten up some of the traffic jams, wouldn't it?
unidentified
It would.
It would.
It would clean our environment a little bit, our air, right?
art bell
Well, it might.
Thank you very much for the call.
And maybe some of that flammable water could be used to power some of the cars out there.
Heat some of the homes out there.
So I suppose it's not a total downside.
Still, you don't want to think of your drinking water as something that would catch fire.
Not good.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Hello?
No, you would have been.
Let's make it the first time caller line.
You're on the air.
Hi, Art.
Good morning.
unidentified
Greetings from Duluth, Minnesota.
art bell
Glad to have you.
unidentified
This is the coolest thing that's happened to me in a long time.
art bell
Oh, really?
unidentified
Got an update on the frogs.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
The Minneapolis paper reported today that the deformities are due to a parasite.
art bell
Well, no, I've got that story.
They think that's one possibility, something to do with a snake parasite or something.
But they don't know for sure that that's a cause either.
That kind of goes into the hopper now with pollution, the ozone, all the other things they think might be possible.
unidentified
The main thing I wanted to point out was up in this neck of the woods, what with the seaway and the ocean shipping that comes up to Duluth, we've had a lot of problems with things kind of piggybacking their way into our ecosystem and causing problems and such.
I guess we can only hope that nothing hitches a ride that develops a taste for human beings.
art bell
Well, see, that's why I'm a little concerned about the plans in Australia to let loose a virus to kill all the cats.
Fine if it's just Australia, it's their country.
I guess they can do what they want.
But what makes us think it will stay in Australia?
unidentified
Yeah, you get messing around with things and you never know where it's going to backfire.
Can I tell you a funny kitty story?
Sure.
A little lighter note after that kind of cranky guy there a couple minutes ago.
Although I will say you handle it pretty well.
Anyway, I got these two beautiful cats.
One's a big old chubby male, and one's this sleek, beautiful Angora, all white and fluffy.
art bell
Oh, yes.
unidentified
And I never let them go outside because there's too many things up in this neck of the woods that would like to munch on them, shall we say.
art bell
Good on you.
unidentified
Well, one day they got out, and the old Tomcat came to the rescue of the little girl there.
There was this predator bird diving down on her.
art bell
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I wouldn't think that this guy could punch his way out of a wet paper bag, but there he was fending off this big bird.
Big hawk.
art bell
Big bird.
Well, look, they're fighting for their lives.
Cornered, that's what they do.
unidentified
Thanks very much.
art bell
All right.
Thank you, sir, for the call.
And with respect to the cranky caller a little while ago, it's all right.
Don't let it bother you all.
It does not bother me.
I'm used to it over the last 13 years now of doing this program.
I've had lots of them, and I include them in.
As far as I'm concerned, talk radio should be free, open, unlimited, and those who want to come along and take a shot at me are perfectly welcome to do it.
I don't mind a bit.
That's part of what Open Lines is all about.
And if it's not, then it's not Open Lines.
And I happen to believe in it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Well, hello, Art.
This is your old friend Dorothy.
art bell
Hi, Dorothy.
unidentified
Formerly from the land of Oz.
Now it's the land of make-believe.
art bell
That would be us, I guess.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
Listen, you know what the guest that you've had on?
That makes three that are predicting three and a half years, three years.
And I know of a fourth source that's saying the same thing.
The most logical to me to put up for election at this time is Charlton Heston is Steven Spielberg.
See, they're asking those other turkeys all the wrong questions.
Now, Charlton, all he has to do is walk off that mountaintop, and everybody will take notice.
art bell
Did you know I interviewed Charlton?
unidentified
Did you?
Yes.
He's a marvelous person.
art bell
Yes, he is.
unidentified
He's very astute in politics.
art bell
Yes, he is.
unidentified
Right.
Oh, by the way, on your chupacabra.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I think I might have a picture of one.
art bell
Oh, I want it.
I want it.
unidentified
Well, let me finish.
It was dug up in Mexico back in the 40s.
art bell
Wow.
unidentified
And it is a statue, and I have the original pictures.
art bell
Well, you have the pictures of the statue or of the creature?
unidentified
The statue.
art bell
Oh, I need a picture of the creature.
unidentified
Okay, I have shown this picture to some local folk here who are from close by the area where this came from, and they said that's a chupacabra.
art bell
Well, you send it along.
unidentified
I will do that.
When are we going to have Daryl Sims on again?
art bell
Daryl Sims.
unidentified
From Houston.
art bell
Well, one of these days, we'll have him on again.
unidentified
Okie-doke.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
art bell
Thank you, Dorothy.
Take care.
And send it along.
You know me.
If it's good, I'll put it up there on the web and share it with everybody.
We've got a lot of stuff up on the web right now.
Really, really, really good stuff.
So if you have not visited the webpage in a while, I suggest you get up there and take a look.
I mean, it's just all new.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
Hello, sir.
unidentified
This is Matt Fomato.
art bell
Hi, Matt.
unidentified
The new leader of the FLF.
art bell
What is that?
unidentified
The Fluffy Liberation Front.
Somebody do something about that, poor cat.
Yeah.
Hey, you were talking about you didn't know if anybody mummified anybody anymore.
art bell
I ought to remind the audience, he refers to Fluffy, a cat who died and then was mummified and was hung out on the porch of this cat-hate, admitted cat-hating guy.
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
And then we started talking about mummified people for some reason, so that's the background.
unidentified
There was a, I don't know if they're still in business or not, but a place down in Salt Lake City did it.
We're doing that.
They had the, you could buy the Egyptian sarcophagus thing, the whole bed.
But anyway, there is hope for anybody who wants to be a mummy.
Also, have you ever had a chance to read Peter Arnett's book from Vietnam to Baghdad?
No.
35 Years of Reporting from the War Zones.
Fascinating book.
art bell
I have learned, though, over the years, when you finally see Peter Arnett take up residence on top of a building in a city, then you can be sure that it's going to be bombed within 24 hours.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
He'd be a fascinating guest.
He would.
art bell
Yes, he would.
unidentified
Oh, my goodness.
The stories are just unbelievable.
art bell
I'd love to ask him about the baby milk factory.
unidentified
His book, he, you know, that's the thing, you know, everybody was giving Peter Arnett a hard time over there during the Gulf War.
He was sympathizing and all this.
And he gives his side.
You know, he gives his side of the story very well, isn't that?
art bell
No, he would be a very, very good interviewer.
unidentified
And he maintains it was a baby milk factory.
art bell
Well.
unidentified
But it was like he was saying, you know, you've got thousands of bombs dropping, and I think, you know, it's pretty unrealistic to think that somebody's going to, you know, they're going to hit something that maybe they shouldn't have hit.
art bell
Well, again, as far as war is concerned, Peter Arnett is like the canary that you take down into the mines.
unidentified
He is, he is.
art bell
I appreciate your call, sir.
I'd love to interview Peter Arnett.
He'd be a good one.
But the minute you ever see Peter Arnett, know that on CNN, standing on top of a building or rushed over to report from some city.
Soon the bombs will fall in that city, whatever it is.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
All right.
rick meister gerhardt in california
How you doing from Dole Country?
art bell
I'm doing all right.
unidentified
This AI.
art bell
Actually, sir, this is not Dole Country.
unidentified
This is.
art bell
I know.
I saw a map the other day that showed the states leaning toward Clinton, leaning toward Dole, and those that were in the middle, and Nevada was shown as one that was kind of in the middle.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Well, I'm sure that that map was in the liberal media.
The same liberal media, which when Dan Quayle said that potato was spelled with an E on the end, which, by the way, is one of the two accepted spellings within the English language, they harped on him for weeks on end.
Admitted Anti-constitutionalist 00:03:05
art bell
No, they ruined him.
rick meister gerhardt in california
But yet last week, when Bill Clinton stated a part of the Gettysburg Address and called it the Constitution, not one word was said in the liberal media.
art bell
What did he quote from the Gettysburg Address?
rick meister gerhardt in california
I forget which line it was.
I forget which it was right now.
But it's an egregious error.
But what more can you expect from somebody who has such an abiding disrespect for the Constitution?
Such an admitted anti-constitutionalist as Bill Clinton.
He's against the whole Bill of Rights.
I mean, not just the First Amendment, not just the Second Amendment, the fourth, the fifth, the ninth.
art bell
Really?
rick meister gerhardt in california
God knows the tenth.
You know, I mean, this man is poison to America.
If he is re-elected, you know, Bob Dornan is going to submit 100 articles for impeachment.
The road to impeachment will begin if this crook is re-elected.
And I don't think he will be.
art bell
All right, thank you.
Well, I think he will be.
I don't think you can call him a crook until he is convicted of a crime, which he has not been except in your mind.
I believe he is going to be re-elected, so I predict that.
I predict the House will hold a Republican majority, barely, and I'm not as sure of that one.
The Senate will remain Republican, in my opinion.
And within a year after the re-election of Bill Clinton, he will begin to face serious, very serious, legal problems.
And what the caller just said about Bob Dornan or others eventually may come true.
It is nothing to wish for.
An impeachment, the impeachment of a U.S. president is a horrible, horrible thing to occur to a nation.
unidentified
Horrible.
art bell
And it is possible downline.
It certainly is possible.
I was alive and following the Watergate business.
And of course, had President Nixon not resigned, there would have been the process of impeachment.
It had already begun.
And if you think we're in a mess now politically, those of you who can remember accurately and memories fade, this nation was right on the edge, right on the edge, and impeachment is a horrible thing.
Dialing For News 00:06:37
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hey, what's going on, man?
You.
Hey.
Just wanted to comment on the fires in California.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I think it's a pretty bad thing that's going on.
I used to live out there.
I live in Oklahoma and just wondered how my buddies up in Fallburg are doing.
We say, call in and let me know.
And I've got a couple friends out there in San Marcos, too.
art bell
Is that where you are now?
unidentified
No, I'm out here in Oklahoma.
Sean, no who I am.
I'll just wanted to say that and have him call in.
art bell
Okay, Sean, thank you.
San Marcos is in pretty rough shape, actually.
And the fires continue.
Last I've heard about 10% containment.
It's all going to depend on the wind, and thankfully it has led up some.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
art bell
Hello.
unidentified
I wanted to.
The line that was misquoted was of the people by the people for the people.
Oh, okay.
And I was in California in September, and I was visiting my daughter reading the San Francisco Chronicle.
And on page A1, this paper was dated Monday, September 9th.
There was an article that a pilot for an American Airlines jet had told the FAA that he had seen a missile off the wing of his plane.
art bell
That's correct.
unidentified
And that the NASA was investigating us.
Have we ever heard anything further about that?
art bell
Narry a word.
I read the same article you did.
It was unrelated geographically and time-wise to the situation in New York.
unidentified
Correct.
art bell
But you are correct.
And no, I've heard no follow-up to it.
But I am aware of the article.
unidentified
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah, well.
art bell
The last thing as a pilot that you want to do is look out your window and see a missile going off your wing.
unidentified
Well, I have from the very beginning believed that there was a missile involved, one type or another.
And I just wondered why this did not make national news.
art bell
Well, probably because the investigation is not complete.
But you're right.
It's going to be interesting to see what they come up with.
unidentified
Well, nice talking to you.
I hope we find an answer.
art bell
Take care.
So do I.
I hope for all our sakes that we eventually get an answer to what did happen.
And I would not pretend to know nor guess what happened.
I've got what purports to be a photograph of a missile that was up on the website for a long, long time.
People had a very mixed reaction to it, a photograph taken at a party on Long Island, and they think it might have been a missile.
Or it could have been a bomb or it could have been mechanical trouble.
They are presently leaning toward mechanical trouble.
There has been no absolute determination made yet.
I repeat, no determination made yet.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
This is Premier Netflix.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
We take you back to the past on Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
art bell
Open lines all night long tonight.
Whatever you want to talk about, it's up to you.
We'll just let it sort of bounce all over the place.
Hi, Art.
A feline plague in Australia could catapult with CAT and catapult underlined to the U.S., be a catalyst to ending our feline population and be a catastrophe to feline owners and put them in a catatonic state.
Also, has anything new come in on the internet from Major Dames yet?
Well, Major Dames, as you know, gave a very specific and detailed explanation of what he thought occurred to Flight 800.
And as you probably know, the latest thinking, not proclamation, because there has been none yet, regarding what they think might have happened with Flight 800 matches precisely what Major Dames said for the record.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
art bell
Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
I'm enjoying you.
My heart just goes, woo!
I don't know.
You're just dialing and dialing.
art bell
Where are you calling from?
unidentified
Oklahoma City.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
And I wanted to ask you, I missed the night with Chuck Carter.
Can you, like, sum up in five words or something what happened?
I know you probably don't want to.
art bell
He's back on the air.
That's five words?
I think he's on Talk America 2, what's called Talk America 2.
And he went back on the air two days ago.
unidentified
Okay, well, and I got your crank radio, and I love it.
art bell
Oh, you got one of the Beijing radios.
Aren't they hot?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Isn't that an amazing thing?
unidentified
Yep.
art bell
Yeah, it absolutely is amazing.
That thing just runs and runs and runs and runs.
unidentified
Yeah, and I've told a lot of people about it.
art bell
Good for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks.
art bell
Thank you, and take care.
I think that's five words.
He's back on the air.
Yes, five.
And that was about two days ago, I believe.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Zarbell.
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
Yes, I'm Ed, calling from Evansville, Indiana.
art bell
Hi, Ed.
unidentified
Yeah, I want to talk about the guy that was talking about earlier about the flammable drink of water.
Debt, Deficit, and Penthouse Speculations 00:15:25
art bell
Oh, yeah, flammable drinking water.
Just what?
unidentified
No such thing in this town, bud.
art bell
That's good.
unidentified
We got the best drinking water probably in the whole county, in the whole country.
art bell
And I'm sure you'd like to keep it that way.
unidentified
Well, we will keep it that way.
art bell
There you go.
unidentified
This is a good clean town.
art bell
Ah, boy.
What a horrible idea.
Putting a match to your drinking water and seeing it flame.
unidentified
The guy, I think he's flaming himself.
Could be.
Also, the main reason I wanted to call, I want to talk about Bob Dole.
All right.
The man, you know, the man has devoted his whole life for this country.
art bell
Yes, he has.
unidentified
And, you know, I mean, what else can you say?
What else does a president make?
Okay?
art bell
What else, excuse me?
What else does a president make?
unidentified
Yes.
You mean I meant that that way, okay?
I mean, what else does make a president?
You know, the man, I mean, you know, you don't hear anything about any kind of scandals against him.
He's a lawyer.
The man fought for his country, spent three years in hospital, came out, devoted his whole life to this country.
art bell
Why do you think he is so far behind in the polls?
unidentified
Why do I think?
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I think too many people don't really rely on their instincts and don't look enough into a candidate to really figure out who the man is.
And they rely on TV and network TV as far as ABC, CBS, and NBC.
I think they have a very big bias.
And I know there's all kinds of newspapers and there are all kinds of different media and all that.
But most people, I mean, there's all kinds of polls that also say that most people do get their news from TV and they believe what they see on TV.
art bell
That is true.
unidentified
And I think it's a shame.
art bell
Well, I appreciate your call, sir, and we'll see what others have to say.
So you think that people are taking their cue from the media.
It is true that more people than not get their news from the media, from the major media.
What do you think?
What do the rest of you think?
The tact taken by the Dole campaign of late has been to attack the president with regard to the donations made by the Indonesian company.
Lippo.
Do you think, why do you think that is not getting traction as an issue and why the polls continue to widen for Bill Clinton?
Why do you think that is?
Do you share that gentleman's belief that it is the media?
First-time caller line, you're on the air.
Hi.
joe in wisconsin
Yes, good evening, Arkl.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, this is Al calling from Victoria, B.C. Canada.
art bell
Hi, Al.
unidentified
Listening from KKOH.
art bell
Oh, Reno, it's got a big signal going north.
joe in wisconsin
I get a much better signal from that than the local KOMO because of the skip zone.
art bell
That's exactly right.
There is a skip zone.
joe in wisconsin
Anyway, I just thought I'd mention since you people are in an election coming up, my experience with election, and that is your vote counts because we had a municipal election here a few years ago, and my man lost by one vote, and I didn't vote.
art bell
And so you blame yourself, then.
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
Well, I guess under those circumstances, there would be nobody else you could blame.
unidentified
That's right.
Another comment I'd like to make.
joe in wisconsin
I just might be crazy enough to reserve myself the penthouse suite on your up-and-coming trip, Art.
art bell
Oh, you would be crazy.
I would love to be in that penthouse.
Have you seen pictures of the penthouse on that ship?
unidentified
No, sir.
I just got the brochure today.
art bell
Holy Jehoshaphats.
Wait till you see the photographs of that.
Fit for a king.
Well, I'll look for you one way or the other, penthouse or bottom of the ship, either way.
All right, take care.
Yeah, the penthouse.
They have a penthouse on that ship that you would not believe.
But I think there's only one of them, one of them, and he says he's going to grab it.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi, Art.
This is Bill in Portland.
art bell
Hi, Bill.
unidentified
I was listening to Rush this morning, and he was talking about somebody from the Democratic Party was saying that Medicare is going to go bankrupt within four years, and they want to get together with the Republicans and cut it more than the Republicans say they are.
art bell
Well, I guess I've got to say this.
I have pretty much stopped believing proclamations about our deficit, our debt, Medicare, Medicaid, where that's going to take us, and a lot of other things.
I don't believe either side, my friend.
unidentified
And, you know, I really get mad that they keep talking about they cut the deficit, and they don't talk about how much our country is in debt.
art bell
No, they don't.
unidentified
And that is the big problem here.
art bell
Yes, sir, it is.
And what's going to get us a few years out is going to be the debt, and nobody even uttered those words.
unidentified
That's right.
They need to bring that up.
art bell
Well, they certainly do, and that accounts for a lot of my disgust with both candidates and, frankly, both parties.
unidentified
A lot of people I talk to don't even know the difference between the deficit and the debt.
I know.
And that's just a shame.
art bell
I know.
And the Clinton administration has served up.
You know, they have, in fact, cut the deficit, which is not bad.
It's good.
But the American people have been lulled into believing that means the debt situation is under control.
All it means is we're piling on to the debt at roughly half the rate we were.
unidentified
Yep, exactly.
art bell
I appreciate your call.
Okay, thanks a lot.
Thank you.
And I don't know what we're going to do about that.
There seems no way to reasonably correct that misimpression.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello, Art.
Hi.
unidentified
This is Brett, calling from Ohio.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Two things I want to cover with you.
I want to agree with the guy that called about a half hour ago criticizing Clinton.
I believe that Bill Clinton wants to take away our constitutional rights, and I believe we're going to see him in the second term do it very aggressively.
art bell
Well, the way to be doggone sure that he does not do it is to ensure there is a Republican Congress to go with the re-election of the president, which I'm convinced is going to occur.
unidentified
Yeah, but you know, the one problem we got, though, is that most Republicans are going along with Newt Gingrich, and I'm not too sure that he's that much better.
They passed this Bill 3610 that you're familiar with it.
You talked about it one night.
art bell
Oh, I sure did.
unidentified
Yeah, and you have to wonder about Newt Gingrich, too.
art bell
Well, sir, I'm wondering of late about both parties, and not too happy with either one.
I'm a practical person, and I have concluded Bill Clinton is indeed going to be re-elected, so I'm voting a Republican Congress.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
art bell
That is our best hope.
unidentified
Right, right.
Another thing I wanted to cover with you real quick is Robert Morning's guy.
He now has a program on shortwave, and I thought maybe some of your listeners would be interested in knowing about it.
He's on 9.955 at 5 p.m. in the afternoon.
art bell
5 p.m. Universal?
unidentified
No, 5 p.m. Eastern Time.
art bell
Eastern Time.
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
That'd be 2 p.m. on the West Coast.
art bell
I'm going to have to check it out.
9.955, huh?
unidentified
Yeah, 9.955.
art bell
I'll check it out.
unidentified
And one thing that I thought was very interesting that I didn't hear him mention the three times that he was on your show is that he doesn't believe that the aliens visiting this planet are benevolent.
And he says he has been turned, he has been trying to shut up by the rest of the UFO community.
art bell
Well, there's a great debate going on about that.
Thank you.
And great debate going on about that.
And I don't know the answer to it either.
I am not convinced either way.
I do believe there is a great probability that we are being visited.
And I've had guests on that have thought they were benign and here to help us out and help us along and all the rest of it.
Others who think these are not such nice guys.
And I really haven't made up my mind yet.
Maybe both are out there.
I have no idea.
But I wouldn't leap to any conclusion.
We've got evidence on both sides, people who have been treated terribly, they say, and people who have been treated well and shown some sort of prophecy about how they're going to help us out.
So I really have no idea.
I'm not absolutely convinced they are here.
And if they are, I certainly don't know what their temperament is.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
How you doing there, Art?
I'm doing fine.
I wonder why your buddy Ross Perot didn't come on the air with you like you asked him to.
art bell
Well, I issued in the last election, sir, an invitation to Ross Perot.
I issued an invitation to all the candidates this time.
Ross Perot does not stay up late and will not stay up late.
unidentified
That's what I've heard.
art bell
Well, you have heard correctly.
And obviously, if you look at my airtime, I'm on late.
unidentified
Yep.
But I could see him 11 o'clock Pacific time coming on with you.
art bell
If he was on the Pacific coast, maybe, but I think he's even in bed before that.
And 11 o'clock is 1 o'clock in Dallas.
unidentified
He's a good old boy.
He's the bed on time, that boy.
But you're disenfranchised with him now.
You're not too crazy about him, I take it.
art bell
Well, I don't think that he is electable this year, if that answers your question.
He is not going to be elected.
unidentified
And you think he's going to run again?
art bell
I don't know.
It's a good question.
He may allow another candidate to head the Reform Party next time.
And I really think it comes down to that, that he will allow, because if he runs, he will be the candidate.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
In my opinion.
So if he sets the Reform Party loose, we may get another candidate next time.
unidentified
Okay.
And just one thing, when you had the two candidates from the other parties, like the Libertarian.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Thing that I'm scared about that, this guy gets in there.
If they have their way, you can imagine the sweatshops, 13-year-old girls working 12-hour shifts.
A lot of safety features will go out the window, let alone legalizing drugs, which I think is crazy.
We have to have some government.
art bell
Yep.
I do agree, sir.
Believe me.
I do agree.
I am very much in the middle.
And I do agree.
I am not able to embrace libertarian philosophy.
And I really, really, really like Harry Brown.
He is a real thing.
He believes in what he says.
I just happen not to agree with all of it.
Two important, non-trivial points.
One is legalized drugs.
Very bad idea, in my opinion.
And the other is open borders.
We have every right to control our borders, and we should be doing so.
That is my view.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
tim in denver
Hi, Art.
Steve from South Dakota.
art bell
Hey, Steve.
john b wells
I've got a couple quick things on the lighter side for you tonight, not talking science.
tim in denver
All right.
john b wells
I received the 20th tape show of your show two days ago.
tim in denver
You did?
Yes.
john b wells
And I'm cataloging them all for reference and got quite a little library here.
art bell
Okay.
john b wells
And second of all, see if you can guess the artist of this song.
It's sort of a prophetic song about what's going on on the east and west coast right now with the fire on one coast and the rain on the other.
art bell
Right.
tim in denver
Can you guess the artist?
art bell
No.
tim in denver
James Taylor, Fire and Rain.
art bell
Fire and Rain.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Okay, well.
tim in denver
That's all I got.
art bell
That certainly would fit.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, Fire and Rain.
The East Coast, absolutely flooding, I think, quite a number of deaths on the East Coast due to the flooding.
And, of course, on the West Coast, the fires, even at this hour, continue.
And I hope they're getting under control.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Well, good morning, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Good morning to you.
unidentified
My name is John.
I'm located in Portland.
art bell
Hi, John.
unidentified
I'm listening to you all the time on KEX.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Let me turn down my radio for a moment if I'm not.
art bell
Oh, by all means, actually, turn it all the way off.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
There you go.
unidentified
Okay.
Oops, there goes the phone.
Okay.
Yeah, Art, I wanted to know if you can answer a question for me that's been kind of bugging me for the last couple of weeks.
I was reading an article about a high school student that was suspended from school because she gave a classmate mitol.
art bell
I don't think it was mitol, but it was an aspirin, yes.
unidentified
That just kind of, you know, kind of throws me in a tizzy.
Why in the devil did they suspend her for just giving her an aspirin?
art bell
Well, their rule was no student will give any other student any drug, over-the-counter or otherwise.
That was the rule.
unidentified
Oh.
Okay, just that, did it strike you strange at all?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, because I thought I read something that occurred to another student in a different school that was either Tylenol or Advil or something like that.
And they suspended that student, too.
Well, I think they found it in a locker.
And I thought, well, I can imagine, you know, doing it if they found pot or heroin or something like that in there.
art bell
I know, aspirin seems radical.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
But on the other hand, there's a reason for the rule.
What Worries Me 00:01:37
art bell
Thank you for the call.
It does sound a little rough, but suppose the other student had had some sort of allergy to that medicine.
Then there would have been a real problem.
There would have been a real problem.
And I suppose that's why they have the rule.
A little bit strict, yes, but probably proper.
And they wanted the school nurse to dispense any medicine.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hello, Mr. Bell.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
This is Stefan Bill in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
art bell
Yes, sir.
Oh, I'm fine.
unidentified
Good.
I've sent you a couple of paxes off and on the past month or two.
I don't know if you've received them.
But at any rate, greetings from Albuquerque.
This thing with the cats in Australia, my question is, do they know for sure it's safe for humans?
art bell
Well, it did not cover that.
It's always something to worry about.
What worries me is, even if they've got it right and they've come up with a virus that will kill cats, how can they be sure they're going to keep it in Australia?
unidentified
Yeah, that's another concern, too.
It could very easily, I would think, be transmitted.
Other question is, too, I just wanted to tell you thank you very much for your show.
And also, this stuff is getting very, very scary.
You put together what Ed Dane says and Richard Hopeland says, and Malachi Martin, which I caught the first hour of.
Frightening Consensus 00:02:48
unidentified
It's frightening, frightening stuff.
art bell
Well, it is in the sense that so many people from so many disciplines are all saying the same thing.
Any one of them, you could probably ignore.
Taken together, I think you ignore at your own peril.
unidentified
That's true.
My question is: maybe next time you have guests of that ilk on, maybe you can ask them what we can do for a little hope because it's frightening.
I have a 13-week-old son now, and it's scary.
You know, it'd be interesting to say, is there any hope for the future at all?
art bell
Well, look, I'll tell you how I deal with it.
And the way I deal with it is one day at a time, and no matter what anybody predicts for the future, I am going to continue living my life and enjoying my life as fully as I can for every day that I have left.
And really, in the end, sir, when you've thought it through and you've listened to everybody, that's all you can do.
You know, life goes on, right?
unidentified
That's true.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
One other quick thing: I will send you a picture of my baby who's going to be a baby chupacava for Halloween.
Awkward going sayings and the long tongue on his pacifier.
art bell
Send me the photo.
unidentified
I will.
It'll be very cute.
art bell
Take it out of my pacifier.
All right.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More somewhere in time coming up.
Art Bells.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM from the 22nd of October, 1996.
art bell
Carol, listening to KKEY, says, Art, Chuck Harter, is back.
He wanted us to forward his appreciation for your interview.
He also thinks you were very gracious to have him on.
Moreover, he wants to know how many of his 48 cats he can ship to you.
Yeah, that's my understanding.
He has 48 cats.
Valid Candidate in Nicaragua 00:08:43
art bell
48 cats.
I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams 48 cats.
I have three, and they represent a definite house full.
Believe me, my three.
Three cats are an interesting combination.
Two cats are one thing, but when you get three cats, there's a different dynamic that takes hold, a different kind of pecking order, and different behavior altogether ensues.
It's really weird.
Dear Art, to correct a mistake you're relaying to your listeners, Dark Skies is on NBC.
The World Series games are on Fox.
That's right.
I had it wrong.
Only during the playoffs was Dark Skies preempted.
And as your recent guest stated, the producer of Dark Skies, they are returning to the regular program schedule as of last Saturday.
In other words, there will be no more preemptions due to baseball.
Thanks.
Chris from Las Vegas.
unidentified
Yes, you are correct.
You are correct.
art bell
Art, I believe that you are not being responsible to your God-given right as a resident of the U.S. to cast a vote for a valid candidate.
Your constant statements about this election being over are foolish.
You do not remember the 1994 election, and the Bowls all said the Republicans would make little or no gains in either the House or the Senate.
But alas, they were proven wrong.
Well, and maybe they will be this time.
The key word, though, is valid candidate.
Sir, I don't like either one of these candidates.
It's Chris.
Chris, I don't like either one of these candidates.
I'm going to be absolutely honest with you.
I think Bob Dole is not as good as the Republicans think he is, nor is Bill Clinton as bad as many of you think that he is.
He is not evil incarnate.
But both of them are not to my taste at all.
And I've thought this over very carefully.
I am fortunate in my state in that I have an option to vote for none of the above, and that is exactly what I intend to do.
And then I'm going to vote right down the line for a Republican House and Senate as I am able to do so.
And I think that's, and I hope that's what's going to happen.
In fact, I predict that is what's going to occur.
President Clinton is going to be re-elected, I believe.
And there'll be a bare majority retained in the House, I hope, and a majority retained in the Senate, I trust.
And then I think in the year that follows the election, Bill Clinton is going to find himself in quite serious trouble.
That's my forecast.
All right, first time caller line, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Good morning.
Wow, I've been trying for so long to get through.
art bell
Well, now you're here.
Where are you calling from?
unidentified
I'm calling from Phoenix, Arizona.
art bell
Okay, KFYI.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
Where you guys have the only smart way of doing things, you don't change times twice a year.
unidentified
Right.
I think we're the only place in the country.
art bell
Well, there may be one other.
I would very much like to join you.
I am so sick of changing clocks I could scream.
unidentified
I was just talking to my wife earlier.
I must be out of state.
She's up in Idaho.
And it's kind of frustrating for her.
She likes it down here as well, especially as cold as it is up there right now.
But she's up there skiing, visiting her family and stuff.
And I said, well, why don't I drive up there and we drive down and let's go over to Perrump Nevada?
Oh, no.
See what this Perumph place is all about.
But, yeah, I've been really, really enjoying your show.
It's a godsend.
I mean, that someone would take the time to bring some of these issues to the air.
I mean, it's like, I know you cannot act with impunity.
I'm sure that there's concerns that may allay many of the issues that could be dealt with.
art bell
Not really.
No, actually, the truth is I can talk about anything I want.
unidentified
Well, and you do.
art bell
And I do.
unidentified
And you certainly do.
I'm amazed, and especially listening to some of the, you know, I mean, the variety of things that you've played, the backwards talking, that was just amazing.
art bell
Well, sir, man does not live by politics alone.
At least I don't.
And talk radio across America right now is almost, you know, unless you're Dr. So-and-so helping people out with their emotional problems.
Otherwise, talk radio is all politics all the time.
It's either going to have to change or as the leading format in America, it's going to die out.
unidentified
Well, I think you've made a really good point there as well.
And I've been hoping that, you know, I've been kind of apathetic about it because it's like, you know, she just got through saying it.
What do we have to choose from?
What do we have to choose from?
art bell
It is not a good choice this year, sir.
unidentified
There's no choice.
And I was thinking about Nicaragua, Little Nicaragua.
I've been all through Latin America.
I used to live in Central America.
And, you know, they call the place Banana Republics, but they're really quite advanced, high literacy rates, very politically minded.
You had 23 presidential candidates in Nicaragua.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And very close election, monitored, all computerized.
Yep.
Very well done.
Very, very well done.
I was there in, let's see, I was there in 1979, July, when the Sandinistas took over the government.
I was in the capital.
And then I was there again.
art bell
Oh, kidding.
unidentified
Oh, boy, right out of high school.
art bell
Oh, man, that must have really been something.
unidentified
Yeah, two of my buddies taking a trip down to South America, you know, our post-graduation getaway trip kind of thing, you know.
art bell
And you went to Nicaragua when Ortega took over.
unidentified
Yeah, well, we didn't know that was going on.
art bell
I understand.
unidentified
I was politically aware at that point.
art bell
I understand.
Nicaragua just looked like a nice place to visit.
unidentified
Well, it was part of the itinerary down to Buenos Aires, which is our destination.
art bell
To their benefit, they did not return Mr. Ortega to power.
Thank goodness.
unidentified
But you know what?
What was really amazing was we were airlifted back by the American embassy.
They took a lot of people.
They took us back out to Gucci Alpa.
I guess we had an airbase there or something going on there before we started helping the Contras later.
But anyway, I noticed in a photo that I saw in a periodical, what do you call it?
A newspaper down there.
They had Violeta Chomoro, who became the president.
She rode into town in the victory procession alongside of Daniel Ortega.
art bell
That's right.
I recall that.
Thank you very much for the call.
I recall that.
And the elections in Nicaragua are definitely a bright spot.
If we can just do something about Cuba, the world will indeed, in many ways, be a better place.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Good morning.
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
How are you today?
art bell
I am fine.
unidentified
My name is Kevin.
I'm calling from LaFountain, Indiana.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
About the cats in Australia.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
I believe about a year ago, did they not try to get rid of the rabbits in Australia?
art bell
Correct.
unidentified
Okay, I was thinking they were trying to do that.
art bell
Yeah, they like designer Designer viruses down there.
unidentified
I see.
There's one thing that the person has to remember about voting for Dole or Clinton this year.
art bell
What's that?
unidentified
Clinton is approving judges for, you know, he's already appointed more judges in his first term than Reagan ever did both terms that he was elected.
And he's got a lot more judges to appoint.
art bell
Well, you know, I would say that what you're raising is a good and valid point, except for the fact that if you look at the appointments that required congressional approval, ones that were made by Clinton and required approval of the Senate, almost inevitably, just like rubber stamps, they were approved.
Crop Circles and Witch Interviews 00:06:33
unidentified
Yes, I realize that.
I would just, for some reason, would think that Dole would have a little bit more conservative thinking on when he goes to appoint these judges than what.
art bell
Well, I would certainly like to think so, but the record would be that he helped confirm those that were sent to him by President Clinton.
So why would you think that his appointments would necessarily be you know, I think both of them are going to be forced, if there is a Republican House, as there is now, no matter who would get in, to force people in, excuse me, to appoint people pretty much in the middle, no matter who gets in.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think so.
unidentified
Well, I just thought I'd throw that out at the people out there.
art bell
No, I appreciate it.
unidentified
One other thing, Art.
I understand that you've been looking for a witch to interview.
Oh, yes.
There's a lady that I seen on the 700 club about a year ago, and she's no longer a witch today, but she was heavily involved in it.
art bell
Yeah, but she probably preaches the exact opposite today, right?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I...
art bell
See, I want a real, I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack for this.
Every time I say it, I want a real wicked, broom-riden, house-crunched, serious witch.
unidentified
Well, see, this lady here, she was the queen of all the witches involved in black witchcraft in Europe for several years there.
So she was heavily involved in it several years ago, and I just thought I'd mention that to you.
art bell
All right, well, I'm glad you did.
Thank you very much.
And I will now immediately get back to saying there is no such thing.
There is Wicca, but we're nice witches.
And I know.
I know.
I am convinced, nevertheless, that if I keep looking, eventually I will find a real broom-riden, wicked witch of the North.
And I'm going to interview one if it kills me.
Well, it just might.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hi, kid.
art bell
Hi, how are you doing?
unidentified
I'm great.
Good.
I cannot believe that the Australian government wants to destroy cats.
art bell
Well, they do.
All of them.
unidentified
I'm a cat lover.
There are some kids in our neighborhood that killed our cat who was great.
His name was Lucifer.
art bell
Lucifer the cat?
unidentified
Oh, he was wonderful.
He had a broken tail, and if you ever touched it, oh, Hades would break loose.
art bell
I see.
unidentified
But can't you put a cat's tail in a splint?
Well, my daughter found him in a gunny sack.
Somebody, when the litter was born, somebody put him in a gunny sack and threw him in a ditch full of water.
art bell
Oh, gosh.
unidentified
He was the only one who lived.
And we raised him from very, very little.
But we have a cat named Demon.
Demon?
art bell
Demon and Lucifer?
Who decides on the names for your cats?
unidentified
It's a combined effort.
My daughter found this demon at the post office, and he has these really bugged eyes.
It looks like somebody scared the heck out of him.
art bell
You mean kind of like this.
unidentified
Real close.
art bell
Recognize that sound?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, often.
art bell
You step on Lucifer's tail, that's what happens.
unidentified
I'm afraid so.
But I really think that the whole thing is completely out of control.
If you want to get rid of the cats, pretty soon someone's going to say, well, I'm a postal worker, and we need to get rid of all the dogs.
And then pretty soon, somebody's going to say, well, we need to get rid of all the coyotes.
art bell
Well, either way, the postal workers would be your right group.
My mother-in-law is a postal worker.
unidentified
It's a Santa Ana post office.
art bell
I get in so much trouble for that.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
She wanted you.
How you doing, Eric?
I'm all right.
This is Alan from Junction City in Oregon.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Just woke up here a while ago, and like I do, I work during the day, but I leave the show on the radio at night.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Boy, you make for some weird dreams.
art bell
I make weird radio, actually.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, and I thank you for it.
Yeah, we're listening to Dreamland with Linda Sunday night.
art bell
Linda Molten Howe.
unidentified
Yeah, good show.
art bell
It was a good show, yes.
unidentified
And like you, I spent some time down in the central coast.
I lived in Santa Maria for many years.
art bell
Ah, yes.
unidentified
And I'm pretty good friends with a lot of the Chumash people down there.
And you know where Point Conception is?
art bell
Sure.
unidentified
Okay, Point Conception is called the Western Gate.
It's the departing place for souls.
art bell
It is.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
art bell
Wow.
unidentified
And when I heard about that crop circle, I just said, oh, geez, I wonder what it looks like.
And then you guys described it a little bit, and I said, ah, sounds like the cave paintings.
Yep.
And I just, yeah, it's getting close.
Another thing I thought about was with the crop circles, you know, what's going to happen when, I live in Oregon now, you know, we've got all these trees up here.
What happens when you get a crop circle made out of trees?
art bell
You would, I guess you'd be able to see that from the city.
unidentified
I think that might catch somebody's attention, yeah.
art bell
You know, I had a fact from somebody the other day who claimed to have a crop circle.
Are you ready for this?
On her rug.
Now you watch.
We'll start something.
We'll start with the rug circles.
How many of you monitor your carpets, folks, and let's see how many rug circles we get out there.
Two Years On 00:03:06
art bell
I mean, after all, if you can have a crop circle in wheat, if you can have one on grass, even bare ground, then why not on wall-to-wall carpeting?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Oh, for crying out loud.
I gave up on you two hours ago.
art bell
Well, then how did you just now get there?
unidentified
I've got the phone hit redow, man.
Oh.
Hey, let's say we meet in the middle and set our clocks back half an hour and leave it at that.
art bell
You know, maybe that would be the kind of protest that would finally get somebody's attention.
unidentified
Hey, Art.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I've been listening to you now for about two years.
And here recently with going through Clinton's term in his office, you talk, you distress me.
art bell
I'm sorry you're distressed.
unidentified
Two years ago, we wanted Republicans, right?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Why don't we want them still?
art bell
Well, I still do.
I intend to vote, as a matter of fact, entirely Republican down below the presidential ticket.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
But I have come to the conclusion, sir, though I know it distresses you, that for a president right now, there is very little difference between what these two men will do.
Oh, there is a difference between what they say, but very little difference between what they do.
unidentified
Right.
I understand what they will do.
art bell
Do you believe that to be correct or incorrect?
unidentified
I understand what you're saying, okay.
But issues are issues.
You can't please all the people all the time.
Say both of these candidates were just Cheerio, Democratic or Republican.
There was no scandalism, no nothing.
art bell
Scandalism.
unidentified
There was nothing in the media that's been tearing Clinton down and getting people hyped up or whatnot.
Say they were both.
art bell
In other words, if it was a perfect world.
unidentified
Well, something like that.
art bell
Yes.
Say it was.
tim in denver
Right.
unidentified
What would you, how would you vote?
art bell
Well, if there was no scandal.
tim in denver
Right.
unidentified
Just wipe the slate clean.
It's hard to do, too, with all these things that's been going on.
You know, honestly, would you vote Republican or Democratic?
art bell
It would depend on the candidates.
Okay.
I don't vote a straight party line.
40 Clocks Tight Squeeze 00:02:54
tim in denver
Okay.
art bell
I just don't do that.
I vote for the person.
unidentified
Hey, has anybody ever asked you this question?
What kind of car do you have?
Or vehicles, cars?
art bell
I have two Geometros.
unidentified
Two?
art bell
Oh.
My wife and myself.
unidentified
All right.
How big is your house?
art bell
You mean in square foot?
Sure.
I think it's about 1,600 square feet.
unidentified
1,600?
And you got all that?
And you got what now?
A good 30.
You missed your computer, too.
You got a clock on your computer, right?
art bell
Sir, I have clocks on everything.
unidentified
I know.
1,600 square foot home, and you got a good 40 clocks.
You got a tight squeeze, man.
art bell
I got a good 40 clocks.
There's no question about it.
Maybe 50.
As a matter of fact, I'll tell you what I'll do.
This time, I will count the clocks.
How's that?
unidentified
No wonder comets bouncing off the walls.
I'll talk to you later.
art bell
All right.
unidentified
Bye.
art bell
Take care.
I will count the clocks this time, and I'll let you know.
There's clocks in everything.
See, I like electronic gizmos, and they are all over my house.
And each one has a clock.
Believe me, each one has a clock.
Radios everywhere.
They all have clocks.
Cam radios, they have clocks.
VCRs have clocks.
Televisions have clocks.
Clocks, clocks, clocks.
unidentified
We're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast AM, from the 22nd of October, 1996.
Art Bell.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from October 22nd, 1996.
art bell
Once again, here I am.
Hi, Art.
I understand you would like a real broom-riding wicked witch from the north.
I can put you in touch with my mother-in-law up in Canada.
unidentified
I'll not sign this for obvious reasons.
Coward.
art bell
Art, nearly four weeks ago, I called for information on your cruise to Egypt and other interesting places.
I have received nothing.
They have processed thousands and thousands of requests for information, so maybe yours got lost.
Call them again.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning, Art.
Treaties and Balances 00:06:40
art bell
Good morning.
unidentified
This is Roberta in Walla Walla.
art bell
Roberta in Walla Walla?
unidentified
Yes.
art bell
Okay.
unidentified
Listening on Kona.
art bell
K-O-N-A and Tri-Cities.
unidentified
That's right.
Just trying to get through to you for the longest time, and I finally made it.
I'm glad you did.
By the way, I wanted to ask you, how is Comet?
art bell
Comet is better by the day.
unidentified
Good going.
I've got my cat Spock curled up next to me here.
He's listening to you, too.
art bell
Do you know what Comet will now let me do?
unidentified
What?
art bell
Kiss him.
I can put my, I can actually go up and go on his side, you know, on the fur.
Believe me, there was a day when I would have lost half my face for trying that.
So that is serious progress.
unidentified
Well, my cat Spock kisses me all the time.
And, you know, you tell people about that who don't necessarily like cats, and they say, ooh, you know, but it's nice.
art bell
Well, these are people who don't matter.
unidentified
That's true.
A few weeks ago, I sent you a letter about a UFO sighting at our local high school here.
And I don't know if you had occasion to get it yet or not.
art bell
I think I do recall it at a local high school.
Yes, I do recall it.
unidentified
Kind of fizzled out.
I didn't hear too much more about it.
But what I actually wanted to mention concerning the election, our favorite subject.
Yes.
art bell
Well, it's bearing down on us.
You know, we're less than two weeks away now.
unidentified
Yes, that's true.
I happened to hear just a little bit of your program with the two gentlemen from the Libertarian Party.
art bell
Yes, and the Taxpayers' Party.
unidentified
Right.
And I didn't happen to hear if either one of them mentioned anything about treaties that Clinton has entered into with the United Nations.
art bell
Well, the United Nations was mentioned, I don't think, specific treaties.
unidentified
Yeah, there's two that I don't think most people are very aware of them, mostly because the media doesn't talk about them, and Clinton really doesn't talk about them.
But there's two treaties in particular, the Treaty on the Rights of the Child, and the other one is on biodiversity.
art bell
Yeah, actually, treaties are not something that Clinton or any other president can just enter into.
unidentified
Right.
art bell
Treaties require ratification by two-thirds of the Senate if they are really treaties.
unidentified
Exactly.
And probably the reason they haven't been ratified is because we've had Republicans in there that have been keeping a check and balance on things.
art bell
Yes, and if we're smart, we will keep Republicans in there.
unidentified
Absolutely.
That's the thing I'm hoping for, that at least if Clinton is re-elected.
art bell
I'm a realist, and I do believe he is going to be reelected.
I'm not here to be a cheerleader.
I'm reading the tea leaves the way I think they're dropping.
And so my feeling now is to concentrate on keeping the checks and the balances in place.
unidentified
Absolutely.
I would be interested in people commenting if they have heard anything about these particular treaties.
I've been trying to, you know, get more information on them myself.
But when you delve into them and find out what they really say, you know, they're going to take the sovereignty of the United States completely away.
art bell
All right.
Well, let's see what we can find out from the audience, all right?
unidentified
Hey, and Art, I'm sure glad I finally got to talk to you.
art bell
I'm glad you made it.
Thank you.
unidentified
You keep me company many a night here.
art bell
Take care.
Yes, it makes the night go faster.
If you're out on the road, talk radio is really cool on the road.
You can only take so much of the music and the beat, and then you've just had enough, and you've got to go do something else.
And your mind with talk radio will be occupied in a way it never can be with music.
As a matter of fact, music, after all, will begin to put you to sleep.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi there, Italian Stallion.
How are you doing?
art bell
I'm doing fine.
unidentified
Hey, that show Friday night with Malachi Martin.
Yeah, that was very, very chilling and very fascinating.
I think he was right on about a lot of stuff when you asked him about the Antichrist and all that.
That was really, my radio started fading really bad in and out when he started answering that question.
It started banging on my radio and everything.
Really?
Yeah, I said, oh, no, I want to hear this part because that was a really good question.
And anyway, I wanted to ask you, do you know anything about that, the Turkish government?
How come they don't want to let the newer expedition teams or the latest expedition teams go up to that arc?
Because they've got some real high-tech equipment that could...
art bell
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about.
The Turkish government, I know the Egyptian government is having some war with people who want to come in, the antiquities people in Egypt.
Is that what you're talking about?
unidentified
No, I'm talking about the Noah's Ark up in Ararat.
art bell
Oh, yes, Ararat.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that would answer everybody's question in the world about the Bible and all that other stuff.
art bell
Well, maybe.
I've seen the satellite photos of what is said to be Noah's Ark.
Now, maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
Some of the satellite photographs look very interesting.
Other people say it is nothing but an interesting formation.
So I don't know what the truth is, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I think we ought to do more research up there.
But otherwise, you have a good one, Art, and I'll see you.
art bell
All right, take care.
First time call our line, you're on the air.
Hello?
unidentified
Hello.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, Harold from Crew.
art bell
Hello, Harold.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Last spring I was in Vegas, and I went to Psychic to do a past-life regression.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I asked her if she'd take the last five minutes and bring me into the future.
And I wanted to know if the stock market was going to crash and when.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
She asked me when the stock market was going to crash, and I said, one month after the big earthquake.
And she said, what earthquake?
And I said, the one down the Mississippi.
It's going to be twice as wide and twice as deep as the Grand Canyon is.
Ruthless Cunning Politician 00:05:38
art bell
When is that going to be?
unidentified
Next spring.
art bell
Next spring.
All right.
Well, let's see.
That would be just about the right time.
That would be the spring of 97, right?
So there'll be an earthquake and then a stock market crash.
Gee, you would think the market crash would follow the earthquake a little bit closer than that even, you know, like next day.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello?
art bell
Going once, going twice, gone.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Charlie Liberal in California.
charlie in unknown
Well, Now the Republicans have put their foot in it this time.
art bell
Oh, not again.
unidentified
Here's the funny thing.
charlie in unknown
They run against Bill Clinton on characters, and who do they put up against him?
Only a man that's been in politics for 35 years.
Now, this might come as a surprise to them, but there are only two positions that are rated lower than politicians.
One being used car salesman and the other being lawyer.
unidentified
Now, tell me.
charlie in unknown
Now, the American people obviously looked at this and they decided.
art bell
I thought the media was in there somewhere.
charlie in unknown
Well, that'd probably be right rate in the top 10, you're right.
But the thing of it is, though, if they had run someone like Coleman Powell or somebody of that ill, say some general with a clean record or something like that, yeah, you could have got that contrast there.
But to say, okay, Bill Clinton's a low character, so we're going to give you Bob Dole, it's absolutely, it's laughable.
unidentified
And I mean, it's a joke.
charlie in unknown
It's like saying, oh, okay, instead of Charles Manson, we're going to give you some other guy that's been locked up for 12, 13 years, whatever.
The thing about it is that once you become a politician, most people believe, and I think correctly so, that they're all muddy, that they're all dirty, especially when it's been around for 35 years.
art bell
Well, you just said it yourself, Charles.
Most people believe that they're all muddy now.
They're all dirty.
And for the most part, I agree with those people, and apparently you do too, and that would include your candidate, would it not?
charlie in unknown
Well, the thing about Bill Clinton, though, is that he's never been attracted to money.
Now, Bill Clinton is an extremely aggressive politician, make no mistake about that.
art bell
Charlie, if he's not attracted to money, what was he doing with Whitewater?
charlie in unknown
Well, I think his wife has more to do with that than he does.
But the whole thing of it is that Bill Clinton is probably the most ruthless politician other than maybe Richard Nixon I've ever seen.
art bell
He is ruthless.
unidentified
You're right.
He's absolutely ruthless.
art bell
Yes, he is.
unidentified
He's very, very cunning.
art bell
Yes.
charlie in unknown
But the thing about it in politics, unfortunately, those qualities are absolutely necessary.
art bell
Ruthless, Charlie, ruthless and cunning in the tradition, I would say, of Lyndon Johnson.
unidentified
I'd say in the tradition of Lyndon Johnson.
charlie in unknown
Unfortunately, though, to be an effective politician, you've got to be ruthless.
You've got to be cunning because don't forget, the other guy's coming after you with all he has, too.
So you have got to understand that you can't be a nice guy and survive.
Unfortunately, Democrats in the past have not been able to understand that concept.
Thank God that we got a Democrat like Bill Clinton who finally understands that he's going to be able to get down in the mud in order to win.
And the Republicans are just being out-Republican because they've done this in the past.
unidentified
And now you've got Bill Clinton doing it, and they can't deal with that.
But I think it's terrific.
art bell
There is a lot of truth in that, Charlie.
Thank you.
There is a lot of truth in that.
Bill Clinton gets right down in the mud.
He is certainly ruthless.
He is certainly cunning.
He has certainly adopted a lot of tactics that the Republicans have used successfully throughout the years, as well as many of their positions.
He's done that.
He is, I agree, ruthless and cunning.
On the other hand, Bob Dole is a compromiser, an ineffective campaigner, and to a large degree has been hampered by right-wing talk show hosts who have slammed Clinton much harder than he should have been slammed, so hard that the American people have become numb.
This whole scandal business.
The American people have simply become numb when you accuse people of drug dealing and murder and every financial scandal and so forth and so on that one can imagine.
Then when you have a candidate who comes along like Bob Dole, who is not particularly a good campaigner, and he hits Clinton with what he considers to be a reasonable allegation.
For example, this campaign finance business, the American people go, I mean, that's nothing compared to what he's been hit with before and has basically bounced off him.
So I think an awful lot of talk show hosts have done a tremendous disservice to the proper political process in America.
Art On Reincarnation 00:09:00
art bell
They have literally made people in this country numb.
Numb.
Anybody out there really disagree with that?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Art, I called you one day last week and I was on the subject of reincarnation and I got the impression you didn't want to talk about it.
art bell
Well, I'm pleased to talk about it.
unidentified
Oh, well, I wondered if you would get a guest on who would be opposed to it, and you said you were going to have the priest on Friday.
But I listened to the whole program, and it never came up, the subject of reincarnation.
art bell
Oh, I see.
Well, it would have been obvious.
I mean, he's a Catholic priest.
unidentified
Well, I wonder, yeah, but see, there are pros and cons to the subject, and I would like to hear somebody who has arguments against it.
art bell
Excuse me, ma'am.
Why don't you go ahead and make some now?
What do you think about that?
unidentified
Okay, the people who believe in it, they say that we keep reincarnating and coming back because they say that's the way we learned.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
If you remember, they always say that.
They say that's how we learn.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And yet on the program Friday night, you and the priest both agreed that we are lost.
I don't know if you remember that.
art bell
Oh, I remember it clearly.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, if we keep reincarnating to come back to learn, you should think we would find our way by now.
We would not be lost.
art bell
Well, in other words, we would become wiser and wiser and wiser.
unidentified
Instead of that, we're getting dumber and dumber and dumber.
art bell
Well, there's another problem with reincarnation, and that is that there are constantly more people on the earth.
In other words, more souls.
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Right?
So maybe those who are learning and becoming wiser because of reincarnation, if it does exist, are being, in effect, outvoted by the new souls coming along who don't know a damn thing.
unidentified
I don't know.
That's why I would like.
Now, when you first came on this radio station, when you left the other station, I remember hearing you say that you intended to have Roy Masters as a guest.
And I don't know.
Maybe you changed your mind, but I would like to hear him talk about it for a minute.
art bell
No, I haven't changed my mind at all.
I had Roy several times, as you know.
unidentified
Oh, and then I must have missed.
I hear you.
I seldom miss your program, but I never heard him on your program.
art bell
Oh, my.
unidentified
Oh, no.
art bell
Well, then you must not catch them all.
That's all I can say, because I've had Roy on, I would say, over the years, probably At least a half dozen times.
unidentified
Since you've been on this station?
art bell
Well, I don't know what station you're listening to.
unidentified
The one you're on now.
art bell
I'm on 300 stations, ma'am.
unidentified
Well, no, I mean, oh, I'm in Las Vegas.
art bell
Okay, that helps.
You mean KVEG?
Yeah, maybe not since we've been on KVEG.
That's right.
unidentified
Well, that's what I mean, you know.
And I know you had him before that, yes.
Oh.
Would you consider having him?
art bell
Of course.
unidentified
I think he's very, very interesting.
And or him or any guest who would give the arguments against reincarnation.
art bell
Do you think he does not believe in it?
unidentified
I'm not sure, but I think he does not.
art bell
Would it surprise you if you found out he did?
unidentified
Yeah, yes, it would.
I think I heard him a lot.
I've listened to him for 30 years, and a long time ago, I heard him say something about that this would be something the devil would want because people could keep messing up their lives each time, and they say, well, I got another chance.
I'll reincarnate, and I'll do better the next time.
And they never do.
This was an argument I heard him give a long time ago.
art bell
I see.
All right.
Well, maybe I'll have him on.
How about that?
unidentified
Oh, I'm going to make sure I never miss your program because I won't know ahead of time unless you announce it.
art bell
Well, I usually do announce guests ahead of time.
unidentified
Oh, thank you very much, Art.
art bell
You're welcome.
Take care.
Glad you called.
And that was Las Vegas indeed.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Mike in Nashville.
art bell
Hi, Mike.
unidentified
How are you doing, sir?
art bell
Fine.
tom in texas
Listen, I tried to get through Friday when you had Father Martin on.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I was unable to and all.
tom in texas
I had a couple of questions I wanted to ask him, but I know this had to be pumping through your mind.
unidentified
Did you catch all of the parallels?
tom in texas
I mean, almost right down to the T of the things that you saw in the next three or four years that Major Dames has already talked about?
art bell
Stop me cold.
unidentified
Man.
art bell
I mean, I knew to the audience that listens to my show, I really didn't even have to say anything.
I knew all of you were catching it.
unidentified
Oh, golly, boy.
tom in texas
I mean, it was right down to the T.
But he said one thing that jumped out at me when we started talking about the Antichrist, whether he is yet to come or may already be here.
art bell
Right.
tom in texas
He'll be the one that will present these problems to us and then maybe show the solution.
art bell
That's right.
tom in texas
And that was scary, but I really enjoyed that interview with him.
He did say that he would come back anytime, and I'm glad he said that.
unidentified
So I hope you have him back more often.
art bell
Well, I will.
tom in texas
But the parallels there with what I just can't wait until Ed Dames comes back after he has spent a month or two with putting all his resources into this next three and a half, four years.
art bell
Yeah, well, it was so obvious the things that just went click, click, click, click, not just Ed Dames, but so many of my other guests.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
art bell
And then to have somebody of the church on who I just, it stopped me cold.
And I just, I thought, I don't even need to call attention to this.
They're all getting it.
tom in texas
Well, I'll tell you what, Art, I've turned 50 years old, August 1st, and I don't know whether this comes with getting older or what, but I know that something has changed in my life just in the last four or five years.
I think when you get older, you get more spiritual.
You get more introspective within, you know, looking into yourself.
And I've become aware of a lot of things that are happening around me and around the world that I never have been concerned about before.
art bell
Same thing.
tom in texas
You know, concern myself about them enough to put these things together.
unidentified
No, I hear you.
art bell
I'm 51 years old, and I have begun to awaken to many of the same things, sir.
tom in texas
It is really an adventure, and I think that we might see a wave of more of this.
But if anybody was ever the conduit to bring these things to the attention of people, I think you're doing a wonderful job, buddy.
As a matter of fact, I bought me an espresso machine.
art bell
All right, look, I got to run.
We're at the news here.
unidentified
All righty.
art bell
You take care of, my friend.
unidentified
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
Somewhere in Time with Art Bell continues, courtesy of Premier Networks.
art bell
Welcome to the program.
Those of you who join at this hour, anything is possible tonight, anything at all.
Who knows?
But then again, that's kind of the way I like it.
Since I tell you folks everything, and I try to, I'm going to tell you something now because there's about to be a change on the air.
Since before I went on the air this evening, my wife has been having a severe asthma attack, and it is particularly severe right now.
Morality In Between 00:06:38
art bell
So I'm sorry, but at this point, I'm going to bail out, folks, and I'm going to go help her.
She's having a difficult time breathing.
So if you're listening up there at the network on my mark, please roll the tape.
That's it, folks.
Mark. See you tomorrow.
unidentified
No, no, no.
charlie in unknown
What I'm saying is that on a morality level, the American people have decided that Bill Clinton is no angel, but he's no Richard Nixon.
unidentified
He's probably someplace in between, which is correct.
art bell
Well, I think that's about right.
unidentified
And they've decided that that, although it's not maybe basic on the screen.
art bell
In between Richard Nixon and an angel, and that there's a lot of territory in there.
unidentified
Exactly.
charlie in unknown
And Bill Clinton is acceptable on a morality scale.
unidentified
And then has he done the job?
The answer to that is yes.
art bell
Let's examine this.
If Richard Nixon was a zero, okay, and an angel is a 10, where would you say Bill Clinton would be?
charlie in unknown
I would put Bill Clinton more toward the, you know, toward the lack of morality scale.
unidentified
But let me say this real fast.
art bell
I mean, like a two or a zero.
unidentified
Let me say this real fast.
charlie in unknown
The best executives, and a psychologist.
art bell
Wait, wait a minute.
I really want to be clear.
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, I want to be clear on this.
Is he closer to Richard Nixon or an angelic form?
unidentified
He's probably closer to Richard Nixon, but let me say this real fast.
charlie in unknown
The best executives tend to be sociopaths, people with sociopathic personalities, who actually tend to be great mass murderers.
But the thing about it is that people who are executives have to, to some extent, be ruthless and be heartless.
And so if you look at some of our best friends, morality speaking, they haven't been very good people, but they've been very good executives.
And that's why I think that actually helps Bill Clinton.
unidentified
Doesn't hurt him.
It helps him.
art bell
Would you like to be a smoking cop?
unidentified
A what?
art bell
A smoking cop.
unidentified
What is that?
art bell
A nicotine policeman.
unidentified
No, but I think we're going to need those.
art bell
Hey, tobacco flatfoot.
unidentified
I think it's going to come down to that.
art bell
I'm sure it is, but you wouldn't want to personally be one.
unidentified
Personally be one?
Yeah.
charlie in unknown
No, but I think what we can do is have, if we had people who were strong on an anti-smoking scale, as they did some of these religious anti-abortion people, we could get a lot of things done because those people, even though I hate their guts, those people know what to do.
If we got some people out with signs who are willing to go and break into some of these places and do some aggressive stuff, then I think we could get something done on that anti-smoking level because that's what it's going to take.
art bell
All right, Charles, thank you.
There's been missing for a while.
There he is back.
Like bad weather.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Rickmeister Gerhardt, Oakland, California.
art bell
When it rolls, it rolls.
rick meister gerhardt in california
I tell you, it's not every day I get to follow Charlie.
art bell
It's true, Hickmeister.
So what's on your mind?
rick meister gerhardt in california
Well, I tell you, if I had to put an angel and Richard Nixon and Billary Clinton in a line, I think Richard Nixon would somewhere be in the middle between Billary and the Angel.
Because, you know, we had people who went to jail for three years for looking at one or two files.
The Clinton Eastas have had 900 900 files of FBI confidential files of people that they have been looking at.
And this is not going near the Whitewater scam that he was running.
art bell
Why do you think there has not been a similar ruckus or even greater, considering the number of files, raised?
rick meister gerhardt in california
Because the media is run by the liberals.
That's why.
art bell
Well, yeah, but I mean, you don't even see sound clips of Republicans screeching and yelping and jumping up and down.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Now, if we had a real true conservative like Pat Buchanan who was running, he would be chewing up and spitting out not only the liberal media.
art bell
But Heitmeister, you don't.
He didn't win.
Bob Dole won.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Well, that's why we have to vote for Bob Dole, okay?
It's like going up on top of a mountain and pointing your hands in two opposite directions.
On one hand, you'll have a mountain range 50 miles to the left, and you look to your right 50 miles and you'll see Las Vegas.
Even though those two things that you're pointing at are 100 miles apart, the hands that are pointing at them are relatively close together.
art bell
Sleimmeister, the way I think about it is it's like going up to the top of a mountain, to use your analogy.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Well, I'm not telling you.
art bell
And standing on the very top and jumping off in any direction.
rick meister gerhardt in california
No, no.
art bell
You're dead no matter what you do.
rick meister gerhardt in california
The two hands are relatively close together.
However, they are pointing in absolutely different directions.
See, we need a Republican president to go with a Republican Congress so we can undo the damage that has been done to this country, the damage that has been done to our Constitution by 40 years.
art bell
What damage are you referring to?
rick meister gerhardt in california
I'm referring to gun control.
I'm referring to the...
art bell
Well, but wait a minute.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
art bell
No, gun control, all right?
That's why.
Bob Dole, after all, signed off on an awful lot of gun control, and you know it.
So how's he going to undo it?
I mean, he was part of the doing it.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Did he vote for the Brady bill?
unidentified
Yeah.
He did.
art bell
Yeah, he sure did.
unidentified
Well, hey, well, that's.
art bell
Well, all right, Heitmeister.
Thank you for the call.
But, I mean, that's the truth.
You know, you better look into it.
April 15th Incident 00:15:40
art bell
Before you get too carried away, you better look into it.
That's why I say it's like going up on top of a mountain.
It doesn't matter which way you jump.
You're going to be dead when you hit the rocks.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Speaking of rocks.
I'm just fine.
unidentified
Good.
I'm in KTMO where all the fire engines and the police cars carry the paw letters.
art bell
They should.
unidentified
Did you, you know, I just got done reading your book, and I saw that you used to be an engineer at Cootie.
art bell
That's right.
unidentified
God, I grew up in Oceanside.
And in Oceanside, in 1979, I reported to KUDE that there was a UFO.
It was like on Halloween night.
art bell
No kidding.
unidentified
No kidding.
My sister and I both called KUDE, and we called this the Sheriff's Department, or, you know, actually San Diego Sheriff's Department, and the Oceanside Police Department.
And it was just like phenomenal.
It didn't even dawn on me when it was.
art bell
Actually, I was both.
I was an engineer, and I was on the air there as well.
unidentified
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah, it was just unbelievable.
Do you remember the airplane that crashed in Thunder Hills over on Annette Street?
art bell
I'm sorry, I don't know.
unidentified
You don't?
Oh, there was a little, I don't know, I might not have been there then.
Okay, well, it was about the same time era.
There was a little airplane that crashed into a house behind my parents' home where I grew up.
And I lived at home at that time.
I'm in Kansas City now, by the way, at KTMO.
And anyway, there was a single plane engine or a single engine plane that crashed to the house right behind us.
It was just about the same, you know, time era, and I thought...
art bell
Very, very disconcerting.
unidentified
Yes, it was.
Well, it was a horrible incident.
The guy did walk away from it, by the way.
But I remember KUDE covered that, and it was very interesting.
art bell
Well, it may have been at a time I wasn't there.
KUDE was really something else.
unidentified
You know, for Oceanside, it was just way ahead of its time.
It was unbelievable.
art bell
No question about it.
We rocked.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
God, it really did, you know, compared to what was that guy's name down in San Diego with the big beard.
And I can't think of this guy's name down at KTB.
art bell
You're not talking about Wolfman.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, he was something else in the chili.
art bell
May he rest in peace.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He was wonderful.
art bell
All right, listen, I've got a scoot.
Thank you very, very much for the call.
Take care.
That was Wolfman.
May he rest in peace.
unidentified
Wolfman.
art bell
He's passed on, you know.
I got a piece of email earlier in the day from somebody that tells me that my name, there's a company, I guess, called California Air Checks, and they air-checked a lot of the people who were in California radio in years past.
And my name is listed as having air checks on file with this group at 91X, where I used to work.
Extra.
That was back in the days when we had to drive down to Tijuana.
And so I may be able to get my hands on some extra air checks of when I was there.
If I do, I'll play them for you.
That would be indeed something.
So we'll see.
I got that email yesterday, and that would be a little further into my career, so I wouldn't sound quite as beginner-ish as I did with the old pirate station down at Amarillo at Amarillo Air Force Base.
That was almost embarrassing to play.
And I would actually imagine even some of the extra stuff now might be embarrassing, but I bet it'd be fun to listen to.
Father Malachi Martin.
Friday night, Saturday morning, right here.
He is an official spokesman for the Vatican.
He for 30 years, 30 years, has been doing exorcisms for the church.
He's going to be my guest Friday night, Saturday morning.
unidentified
So prepare thyself.
art bell
That's going to be a rough ride, I sense.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Arbell is the Italian Stallion.
art bell
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Did you hear on the top of the hour, I guess, England's calling a halt to all handguns?
Yeah, they said on the ABC News at 3 o'clock.
art bell
They're calling a halt to hold all handguns.
unidentified
Yeah, I heard it pretty clearly, so it's pretty shocking, but they've been wanting to do that a long time.
art bell
Well, it's underway in Australia, you know.
unidentified
But yeah, I just wanted to mention that, and it's good to have the old Charlie Liberal back.
He sounded like he came back from the dead.
art bell
He sounded pretty widely, didn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, he sure did.
art bell
Well, it's harder to get through is what it is these days, as I'm sure you've noted.
unidentified
Yeah, but like you said, I'm not going to miss that debate for all the tea and probably all Europe, too.
Uh-huh.
But anyway.
art bell
And in London, they have a lot of tea in London.
More than guns, apparently.
unidentified
Yeah, but they did ban that, so you might want to see if the other callers heard that.
art bell
Well, the English have a lot of trouble with tea.
unidentified
Yeah, but they've called a halt to all handguns.
It kind of shocked me when I heard that at the top of the hour.
art bell
All right, I appreciate the call.
unidentified
Thank you.
art bell
They called a halt.
You mean they've banned all handguns?
Got to turn them in, huh?
We are working on a project that will have this program delivered to all of the British Isles for two hours every night.
In turn, our network is going to carry two hours of the British talk radio at another time segment during the day.
And so it's kind of like a student exchange, except with broadcasting.
So eventually we're going to be on the air in all of Britain.
And that'll be something, won't it?
That would be nice.
Anybody in England right now?
Let me give out my number, if you wouldn't mind, my international number.
If you're in England, if you're in Britain and you're listening to us right now, how about a call?
I would absolutely love it.
Anybody in Britain, call us now.
And the way you do it, toll-free, it won't cost you a penny, is get hold of the ATNT operator there or get the AT ⁇ T USA Direct Country Code and then call 800-893-0903.
Somebody ought to be listening on the internet in Britain.
Call us 800-893-0903.
Let me give that one more time.
Get hold of the AT ⁇ T operator and tell her you want to call 800-893-0903 in the good old USA, and it will be toll-free.
It will not cost you a penny from anywhere in the world.
So they're going to ban all handguns, are they?
In Jolly Old.
unidentified
This is Premier Networks.
That was Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM on this Somewhere in Time.
I've nothing to do with you.
art bell
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Good morning.
unidentified
Yeah, Art.
This is Bob in Central Indiana.
How you doing this morning?
art bell
Well, I'm well, I don't know.
Things are going downhill.
There's the smoking thing, and now they're banning guns altogether in England.
I understand, and I don't know.
It's just a bad day.
unidentified
Well, I guess I might cheer you up here a little bit.
I heard something on the radio the other day that I just got to pass it on to you.
It could affect some real changes in the government.
All elections will be held the Tuesday after April the 15th.
What do you think?
Think it might work?
art bell
I do.
I do, because I personally am in a foul mood for actually weeks following April 15th.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
I've determined that I will not pay my tax until that final day.
unidentified
I hold on to it.
art bell
You know, for as long as I can.
Why should they get interest when I can get it?
unidentified
That's right.
art bell
And then when I have to sit down and I have to write the check, I'm really angry for a while.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
art bell
And then I forget.
unidentified
Yeah.
It just makes too much sense.
It'll never happen.
art bell
That's correct.
They're not fools.
unidentified
You have a good day, Art.
art bell
Well, you two, sir.
unidentified
Thanks for cheering me up.
art bell
That's right.
If they held the elections the first Tuesday after April 15th, it'd be a whole different tune out there, wouldn't it?
But they're not that dumb.
They're not going to do that.
They know that we have short memories, relatively short.
Now, when I'm forced to think about it, I can recall my anger, and I'm sure you can too.
But it doesn't last, does it?
You forget.
And if they weren't taking it from you in small parts, contract employees know this is true.
At the end of the year, they get generally hit for...
Well, they get in lots of trouble because they go and they spend their money and they forget about the tax, and then it comes and bites them, you know where, on April 15th.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Art?
unidentified
Yes.
You know, the Second Amendment has actually been repealed.
art bell
When did that occur?
unidentified
Well, it occurred when the Supreme Court quit hearing any cases on it.
art bell
Well, I'll tell you something.
It may be well that they're not hearing cases on it because there may be a case to suggest that it would be a state's rights issue and that the Supreme Court would say the Second Amendment only applies state by state.
I once asked, I interviewed Judge Bork, and that's what he said.
That's what he said he believed.
unidentified
It could be.
The Tenth Amendment does give us that.
art bell
So I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry, especially in the present climate.
michael badnarik
Yeah, but for the last three years, the Supreme Court has refused to hear any case on the Second Amendment.
art bell
That's what I said.
unidentified
You probably ought to be saying thank you because that leaves it in a gray area.
art bell
If it goes to the court, that could be it.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Yeah.
michael badnarik
Hey, on a lighter note, that conference call you had the other day with two or three people, that was really fascinating.
art bell
What are you referring to?
michael badnarik
Oh, the conference call with I was trying to think about the pyramids and everything.
art bell
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Oh, you mean the Graham Hancock, Robert Buval, Richard Hoagland extravaganza.
unidentified
Oh, that was fantastic.
art bell
Well, it was.
A lot of people misunderstood it was such a critical, important thing that was actually being argued.
They thought we should have done the show on what might have been under the Sphinx or in the pyramids or whatever.
But what was being argued was near-term, extremely important.
And so some people were disappointed.
They said, well, they want to talk about what was in there, not the politics of what was going to be done to get in there.
But it's so right on top of us that it was an important argument, very important.
unidentified
Oh, right.
michael badnarik
But I had kind of a philosophy question for you.
If you held a conference call and you had like Wayne Green, Richard Hoagland, Stan Deo, and then threw Bill Wattenberg in there just for a little reality, when the conversation got away from you.
unidentified
It would be.
art bell
It would quickly.
Bill Wattenberg would be so angry.
michael badnarik
My philosophy question is, would there be a sound associated with that many eyes glazing over at the same time?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Bill Wattenberg exploding.
Ba-boom.
art bell
Thank you very much, sir.
unidentified
Have a good one, Art.
art bell
Take care.
Yeah, the explosion of Bill Wattenberg.
First time caller line, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Art and Perump?
art bell
Art and Perump, yes.
unidentified
This is Scott and Reno.
art bell
All right, Scott.
unidentified
This might be remotely interesting to you, but I think they've discovered something that contributed to some of your success.
What?
I made a phone call earlier this evening, actually yesterday evening, and I was put on hold, and I could hear a voice in the background.
And I tried to study it into the voice and discovered that it was your voice.
art bell
I was in the background of this phone.
unidentified
Apparently, I'm looking at the show in the background of my telephone.
Matter of fact, I heard it as I was trying to call you just now.
And since you're kind of a radio file, I was wondering if you could explain why that's happening.
art bell
Oh, you mean it's actually on your phone?
unidentified
On the phone.
art bell
Oh.
Oh, well, of course, I can't hear it because I'm doing it.
Right.
Yes.
unidentified
Where are you calling from?
Reno.
art bell
Reno.
How far from KOH's towers are you?
unidentified
Well, I'm in Northwest Reno.
I'm not quite sure where they're located.
art bell
Well, the easy answer is probably you're not very far from their tower.
And you're actually picking up the RF from their tower.
Another answer might be that we have infected, as a virus would, the entire telephone system.
unidentified
That's what I thought the answer would be.
art bell
Well, I doubt that's it.
Probably you're close to their tower is the real answer.
And if you put a point 001 capacitor across the telephone receiver, or if you know how to open the phone, put it in there, it'll go away.
Oh, yeah?
Well, in that case, enjoy it.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
You know, if KOH.
Well, no, if they go off, you wouldn't hear it.
unidentified
Well, thank you very much.
art bell
Call KOH and thank them.
unidentified
Okay.
art bell
All right, thank you.
See you later.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello, Art.
I have the deepest respect for you, and I would never intentionally say anything to offend you.
art bell
This is usually the kind of thing that is said just before the other shoe falls.
However.
unidentified
I am so sorry if I upset you last night when I called.
art bell
Well, what did we talk about, remind me?
unidentified
I'm the jerk who told you that joke that I said that I believed was clean, and I really did.
art bell
It wasn't, though.
It wasn't clean.
unidentified
It was cleaner than what that would-be nicotine cop said when he compared smoking to urinating in public.
art bell
Well, no, it really wasn't.
unidentified
I mean, it didn't have any vulgar words.
art bell
Well, no, but, you know, clearly it was not clean.
I mean, I did come out and say, is it clean?
Remember?
unidentified
Yeah, well.
art bell
And you said, oh, yes, it is.
unidentified
I really honestly believed it was clean.
I didn't plan to be a crank caller.
art bell
Oh, you're not a crank caller.
unidentified
You just... ...to tell you that we love you.
art bell
Oh, no, look, no problem.
You're not a crank caller.
These things just slip out.
I understand.
unidentified
Okay, well, I do have another one for you, but you wouldn't trust me, would you?
No.
Smoking Outside Controversy 00:09:33
unidentified
No.
It was told by my sweet 76-year-old mom.
art bell
Yeah, your sweet 76-year-old.
unidentified
I'm listening right now.
So, hi, Mom.
I love you.
And we'll continue to keep listening to you.
Have a good night, Art.
art bell
See you later, my sweet 76-year-old mom.
Ha ha, what a lead-in.
Burned once, twice shy, dear.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Yes, I got a comment about that smoking thing in Maryland.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
What about it's your own private property?
How come you can't smoke on that?
art bell
Because it's outside.
unidentified
But it's your property.
Isn't there a constitutional sum in the Constitution?
art bell
Well, do you own the air?
Well, do you own the air?
unidentified
You own the property.
You're smoking.
That doesn't matter.
art bell
Do you own the air?
unidentified
Not really.
art bell
That's right.
You don't own the air.
You have no title to the air.
You're polluting the air, is what they're going to say.
unidentified
Okay, one more quick comment about that.
art bell
And I think what we should do is have sovereignty of immediate airspace.
unidentified
Exactly.
art bell
It's the only way that it's, you know, but it doesn't work that way.
I mean, you can't shoot down airplanes and helicopters fly over your house, right?
unidentified
Correct.
art bell
So you have no sovereignty of the air.
unidentified
That's correct.
I didn't think of it that way.
But getting to another point, if they're saying that this is bad for you, people say abortion is bad for you.
Why can't they allow abortion?
art bell
Well, because they want to do what they want to do, and that's all there is to it.
unidentified
They say it's okay to do something to have abortions to do with the business.
art bell
You know, it would be interesting to see what the U.S. Supreme Court would say about a law that bans smoking outside.
I think it would be struck down myself.
unidentified
I do too.
art bell
Thank you very much.
The U.S. Supreme Court says abortion is legal, and I believe that any law against smoking outside would be just flat unconstitutional.
But what do I know?
First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes, Art.
It's funny because I was just going to call and tell you about my Real Talk.
art bell
Oh, yes, really?
unidentified
I love it.
I've had it for about a year now, and I love it, and I've got the best library in the world of tapes.
art bell
Well, anybody who's got Real Talk loves it.
You know, I mean, it's just a hot item to have.
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you one of my problems.
I taped Major Dane the other night.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And I had a 90-minute tape in the thing.
art bell
Right.
unidentified
And at the very end of the tape, you had asked him about the chubacabra and also the strange animal in Egypt.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And he was about to answer, and the tape came to an end.
And I've been hanging since then.
Could you take a minute on the show?
I'm going to hang up and kind of just tell me what he said.
art bell
No, I can't.
unidentified
You can't?
art bell
No.
unidentified
Oh, dear.
art bell
Well, I'm kidding.
I really could.
I shouldn't because I don't want to get it wrong.
I remember, indeed, the strange animals in Egypt.
And I think what I asked him was, is there going to be more of this?
More mutant animals, deformed animals.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
And he said, oh, yes.
Basically, he said yes.
So all the signs we're seeing, the mutated frogs, all the rest of it, is just the barest beginning.
unidentified
And did he say that this was a mutation, or was he implying that?
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Thank you.
Now I can sleep.
art bell
Can you really?
unidentified
Yeah.
art bell
Even when you imagine that one of those mutant things might be crawling or slithering under your door?
unidentified
Well, so far I haven't worried.
art bell
Headed for your bedroom.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
art bell
Up the bedpost, into the bed.
unidentified
I'm in Colorado.
I've never heard about them here yet.
art bell
Oh, well, that's right.
unidentified
We have animal mutations.
But we don't have those kinds.
All right.
art bell
Thanks very much for the call.
Can you imagine being in bed alone and feeling something slithering up the bed, moving, actually moving the bed, having enough weight to move the bed headed toward you in the bed?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, Art.
art bell
How are you doing, guys?
I'm doing all right.
Turn your radio off.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah, I've been listening to your show for about two weeks now.
I just listened to it by accident the other day.
art bell
A lot of people find me by accident.
unidentified
And I thought it was great.
And I heard this alias show you.
art bell
Yes.
unidentified
And I thought it was real cool.
And I was wondering how often did you do that?
art bell
When the mood strikes.
You mean when I opened the Alien line?
unidentified
Yeah, that was really great.
rick meister gerhardt in california
Really?
unidentified
I liked it.
And I wonder if there's any way I can get copies of your show.
art bell
Yes.
Should I give you the number?
unidentified
Yeah, if you could.
art bell
All right, it's 1-800.
Are you writing?
unidentified
1-800.
art bell
9-1-7.
unidentified
9-1-7.
art bell
4-278.
unidentified
4-2-7-8.
art bell
4278.
unidentified
All righty.
Thanks a lot, guys.
art bell
All right, take care.
What is it with this alien line?
Everybody loves the alien line.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
It's Mike Nashville.
art bell
Hi, Mike.
tom in texas
Sitting down if you want a good cigarette.
unidentified
Just got to do getting breakfast done.
art bell
Well, I'm going to have to arrest you at a distance.
unidentified
Tell you what, Art, I like my tobacco and I like my coffee.
I like my eye-opener in the morning.
I get up real early.
art bell
You're just in all kinds of violation here.
unidentified
Now we're talking about it.
Everything I do is wrong.
tom in texas
What's that song Alan Jackson got?
unidentified
Everything I love is killing me.
Yeah, that's right.
tom in texas
Hey, listen, I heard you getting chastised the other night for expressing your opinion on maybe not voting anymore.
art bell
Yeah, well, actually voting none of the above.
That's right.
I don't care.
I mean, people chastise me all they want.
tom in texas
Listen, I don't know whether people realize that or not.
I watch a lot of our local council meetings here on public TV, and then I watch C-SPAN.
Our senators and our congressmen and our councilmen, on many occasions, they don't exercise their right to vote.
unidentified
They call it an abstention.
I know.
tom in texas
And, you know, maybe politically correct, you should just say, I'm going to abstain.
art bell
Well, I could say that.
I'd still get, you know, look, I learned a long time ago that whenever you say anything new or go against the grain, you're going to take hell and heat for it.
And I'm used to it.
I don't care anymore.
I'm getting too old to care.
I don't think there's a penny's worth of difference between the way these two guys are going to govern.
unidentified
No, and I'll tell you what I wish you'd do.
It'd be interesting.
tom in texas
Call the bookmakers, odds makers out there in Vegas and get a line on the election as it stands today.
art bell
They don't make book on it.
unidentified
They don't.
art bell
No, that's one thing they can't, well, they don't do.
unidentified
I've heard it.
tom in texas
I thought I'd heard it mentioned on other talk radios, but it would be interesting to see if it changed one iota after the debate tonight.
There's nothing that the Republicans have done to cause a Democratic campaign to get on the defensive, and they're not going to do it now.
You know, they're not going to throw no Hail Mary tonight.
And I've done, sacrifice, two good ball games to watch these first two, and now they've got the hype on this one and all.
And I guess I'm going to do the same thing tonight and not watch the Braves and the Cardinals for a while.
art bell
I wouldn't do that.
unidentified
I mean, that's what they make VCRs for.
tom in texas
And if I got a piece of that rock they're offering $5,000 for, I believe I'd just call old Michael Jackson and maybe get a million from him and let him put it in his den.
art bell
Well, I'm not sure Michael cough it up, but I'll tell you what, somebody else would cough up far more than $5,000, so I'm telling my listeners, if you find that meteorite, don't call NASA.
unidentified
Don't call.
I was getting to call him first.
There's too many other people I'd call first.
I wouldn't even want them to know I had it.
art bell
And I wonder if you refused to sell it to them for the five grand, it's my opinion they'd come and probably just take it.
tom in texas
Well, they would use the same ruling that they're using on this smoking thing in Maryland.
unidentified
They would probably say it's for the protection.
tom in texas
You know, they'd use their right as for protecting the general public and all that because there might be a hazard to that.
unidentified
I'm sure they would come up with something along those lines.
art bell
I got a question for you.
unidentified
All right.
art bell
Does Crystal Gale live in Nashville?
Yes.
She does?
tom in texas
Yes, she has a business here other than, you know, her music business and all.
She's got a shop out on the other side of town from where I'm at, and it's called Crystals.
And she sells all kinds of imported crystal knickknacks and stuff.
art bell
You're kidding.
tom in texas
Yeah, and does a real good business out there and everything.
unidentified
A lady who works with her sent me an autograph, photograph of her.
Yeah, I heard that on your show the other day.
art bell
That woman has the most beautiful hair?
unidentified
Her hair.
I used to book a little music.
tom in texas
I used to be a talent agent art.
And one of the ladies I worked with in the office, she got her hair fixed at the same place that Crystal does.
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tom in texas
And she was down there and she was talking about it one day.
And I had to pick her up one day, too.
And we were going to lunch.
So I went in to get the lady that I worked with.
Crystal was in there getting her hair done.
And she had six beauticians who were rolling her hair.
And they were using these 46-ounce cans, like tomato juice and orange juice and things come in.
unidentified
Are you kidding?
To roll her hair around.
tom in texas
They were standing back, you know, like six feet, rolling her hair up on that, and she was all laid out.
And it was an all-day job for her.
unidentified
She had an appearance of something.
art bell
Woman has the face of an angel.
Listen, I got to go.
My program is over.
So from Music City there, you get to say, you know what?
tom in texas
From Music City, USA, and the future home of the Houston Oilers and the high desert of North America.
unidentified
Good night.
art bell
Oh, that's done so well.
I couldn't top that at all.
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