Art Bell dissects the 1996 vice-presidential debate, where Al Gore outshined hesitant Jack Kemp amid 27% public opposition to Clinton’s tax policies and Haiti stance. He warns of a "thrown" election despite Dole’s 21-point poll lead, citing missed opportunities to attack Clinton’s integrity, while noting Susan McDougall’s contempt citation in the Whitewater scandal. Callers speculate on Markham’s alleged time machine, volcanic floods in Iceland, and environmental anomalies like deformed frogs—linked to pollution or solar radiation—while Bell dismisses NAACP claims and election fraud theories as fringe. Willie Nelson and callers raise ozone depletion fears, echoing past warnings, but Bell doubts voter impact changes outcomes, blending skepticism of politics with conspiracy musings about divine retribution or government manipulation. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest.
I bid you all good evening and good morning as the case may be across this great expanse of land from the Tahitian and Hawaiian island chains all the way east over this great land of ours to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north to the polls, Santa Country.
Jack Kemp was many times hesitating, seemed unsure of himself.
The question of Haiti, for example, I thought Jack Kemp did not answer that well.
And Al Gore came back very well indeed.
The first 45 minutes of the debate on tax policy, my guess would be a lot of you turned it off during that time.
Only about 27% of the American people agree with the Dole tax policy.
Whole campaign, Dole campaign, has been mishandled to the point of almost considering it a thrown election.
I know that's a very serious charge, but it's what I feel.
There is only one very serious area of Clinton weakness.
Mr. Clinton is weak when it comes to the issues of honesty, integrity, character, personal things, but non-trivial.
The Dole campaign had to find a way, either through Bob Dole or at least through Jack Kemp, to begin to enter this area of criticism and had to begin to make it an issue.
And they have, for whatever reason, decided to completely avoid the area.
Now, I know that that then would be a sign of trying to take the high road, but the high road, when you're 21 points down, is not going to get you to your destination at all.
It's going to have you as a footnote in the history books with regard to elections, and that's exactly where this campaign is headed.
I thought that for a long time, and I think more than ever tonight.
And I'm not exactly going to really make the charge of their throwing the election because that implies a conscious intent to do it, and I don't really feel that.
But it certainly has been mishandled.
So as far as I'm concerned, Al Gore won the debate.
Jack Kemp lost it.
Of all the people that should have been able to debate well, Jack Kemp is that person.
He didn't.
He had a very bad day.
He seemed unsure of himself.
I've seen Jack Kemp be incredibly effective.
This was not one of his days.
There is one more presidential debate, and we'll see what happens.
But I do not have high hopes.
Here's a fact.
It's typical of what I received.
I want to express my disappointment with the Kemp Al face-off tonight.
In all honesty, the Republican Party is dead for the next four years.
As a Republican, I was more impressed with Al Gore, his general demeanor, his attention to Kemp, as Kemp spoke, his articulation, his responding directly to those questions posed by Mr. Lear, where Kemp rambled on in redundancy.
To the majority of Americans, we will live to see Clinton Gore, let's say, for another term.
The only way for a dole Kemp presidency is a down and dirty fight nationally to expose Clinton's character past and present.
We have the ammunition, and a decision not to pursue this course of action is the death of Dole Kemp.
For them to take the high road as they trail in double digits will be devastating to our party, as all losers are quickly forgotten and never forgiven.
They must run the race with every intent to win at whatever the cost.
Rudy and Phoenix, and I agree with you, of course, Rudy.
So I'll just leave it at that.
It is no different than I expected it to be.
How about you?
A federal judge has upheld a contempt citation, the one that put Susan McDougall in the pokey last month for refusing to testify about the president's role in the Whitewater Saga.
The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals has rejected McDougall's complaint that her constitutional rights were violated when a district judge found her in contempt of court, sent her to jail about a month ago.
The first U.S. troops are leaving Bosnia.
However, there are 5,000 going in, and they are going to stay until springtime.
I'm not sure of which year.
It seems clear to me that we are going to stay now in Bosnia for some time to come.
Now, it is another presidential promise violated, clearly.
But again, for some unknown reason, and I'm very hesitant to charge throwing the election because I'm pretty sure that's not what's going on.
But this dole camp seems unwilling to go after the Clinton administration on any of the things that I've heard so many of you complain so bitterly about.
Period.
Period.
So the effect is a lost election, if not a tossed election.
Israel and the Palestinians are getting nowhere fast, and I think it's only a matter of time until it turns into a big conflict in maybe more.
And I guess that's the news.
The hard news, there's really not a whole hell of a lot more going on.
It was the debate night, and I just told you the way I think the debates turned out.
I've got kind of a worrisome story here, and I'm going to read it to you.
It concerns our old friend Madman Markham.
I got a call the other day from a writer, Ovetta Sampson, for the St. Joseph News Press, And she was going to write one last story, I think, leaving that newspaper.
And she was going to write one last story and wanted to write about Madman.
So she asked me for a couple of comments.
I gave them to her.
And I also gave her Madman's contact number.
And she went away and wrote her article.
I got a copy of that article today, and I'm going to read it to you.
Madman Markham is an affectionate name that I gave to Mike Markham, who thought he was building a time machine.
I'll just read this to you as it is.
The headline is T-minus 30 days and counting.
Hopeful time traveler appears on talk radio to tout near success.
Northwest Missouri's premier expert on time travel has garnered national attention from radio's King of the Supernatural talk show host Art Bell.
Mike Markham, arrested last year for stealing electrical transformers to build a time machine, resurfaced recently, this time as a caller on a late-night talk show.
Two weeks ago, the 23-year-old Markham told Mr. Bell he was 30 days away from making the time machine work.
Calling from Parampnavat, I returned a call.
On Tuesday, Mr. Bell said that he had promised Madman, that's always in quotes, Madman Markham, he'd fly to St. Joseph to document the historic event.
If he's going to do it, we're going to videotape it, the overnight host said without a hint of laughter.
That's right, I didn't laugh.
I indeed told her I'd come videotape it.
Apparently, Mr. Markham has gotten better at his electrical wizardry in the year since his arrest in Gentry County.
Al Brown, now get this, folks.
Al Brown, a landlord of the Time Wizard, said, quote, he sent a cat a block away, end quote.
He sent a cat a block away, according to the landlord.
But alas, in June, after Mr. Markham burned out the air conditioning unit in his Midtown apartment and zapped the electricity out of the building, Mr. Brown said he did not renew his lease.
Well, I had no idea Madman had reached the cat stage.
Wonder where the cat was set at a block away.
He moved the cat a block.
Anyway, continuing, Mr. Markham, who is said to have built his own transformers and received materials from a major auto manufacturing company, has since disappeared.
Friends say they haven't seen him in two weeks.
Perhaps he was ahead of his 30-day schedule and didn't take the time to tell anyone.
Oh, my.
So apparently there was quite a bit I didn't know.
You know, it was about that long ago, just about that long ago, that I talked to Madman last.
And now I find out, and he didn't tell me any of this.
Remember the last interview?
He sent a cat a block away.
Now, maybe he wouldn't tell me because he knows how I feel about cats.
He blew the air conditioning unit, at it again, zapped the electricity out of the building altogether, got booted out of where he was living, and has not been seen.
So there may be some reason to worry about what he has done.
You don't suppose he would have gone ahead.
Well, you know, he must have.
And the reason I say that is because you may recall, Madman promised me his hand on the time travelers manual that he wouldn't go until he first told me when he got to that stage.
I had no idea he had begun transporting mammals in this thing.
And I certainly had no idea that he managed to fling a cat one block.
That's incredible.
And now I can't locate him.
So your guess at this point is as good as mine.
And I'm afraid if I had to guess, my guess might be that Madman has gone and done it.
My name is Gunnar Smith, and I'm located in the city of Reykjavik, Iceland.
This is email.
My mother, Kathy, told me a lot about your radio program, which she listens to every morning as she does her papers.
I've tried quite frequently to call you on the phone, but haven't been able to get through yet.
The international line, I got your email address yesterday, decided to mail you instead.
My mom told me you were interested in the volcanic activity, which is taking place here in Iceland, and searching for somebody who's got some information about it.
I'll give you the email version of what's going on.
The eruption is taking place beneath, and he names the glacier that I could not possibly hope to pronounce, which is the biggest glacier in Europe.
The thickness of the ice on top of the eruption is estimated to be 6 to 700 meters.
That's a lot of ice.
And it only took about 24 hours to melt through it.
Right now, it's mainly steam coming out of the hole through the ice, understandable, and a bit of ash.
Not too much yet.
The ash fall, if great, could cause sickness in sheep.
Their bones would grow more than normal.
I don't have any details on that sickness other than that with the bones.
Anyway, all the ice that melts becomes water.
And of course, the water has to go somewhere.
Just south of the eruption, there are two other craters, volcanic, and they every now and then gather a lot of water.
When the water level has risen enough, then the water flows from underneath the glacier, underneath it, and over vast areas of sand and goes to the sea not far from the roots of the glacier.
Right now, the water from the eruption place has gone into these two craters, and they've gathered more water than ever before, and experts are stunned about the fact that a flood has not yet begun.
Two days ago, the amount of water that had gone into the craters was just about one cubic kilometer, and today I don't know what the amount is.
So, the status is a short report.
Eruption still going on beneath the glacier.
Waters gathering rapidly.
Is expected to flood forward with enormous power, damage bridges and land.
So, we're going to keep an eye on that story of the erupting volcano beneath a glacier.
Greetings, Mr. Bell.
On CNN's website, there is a story under the Earth section about deformed frogs in the Midwest.
Some have four hind legs.
Some have stumps.
Some have tails.
They're having trouble finding an area with normal frogs.
He signs more frog legs for all Doug in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Four hind legs, some have stumps, some have tails.
And they are having difficulty now finding any normal frogs.
Now, I'm not an environmental expert.
That's Al Gore.
But aren't frogs an indicator species?
You tell me.
Does it bother you that people are having trouble finding normal frogs?
You might want to take a look at the CNN webpage.
I'd like to see a picture of one of those frogs.
maybe i wouldn't nature continues to shake and shake and shake We are in a really strange period of earthquakes, it would appear.
We've got a 5.3 again off the coast of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada, and a major earthquake, 6.8, which occurred near Cyprus and accounted for at least two dead last I heard.
I believe one in Egypt, and it may have been one on Cyprus or Israel, but it shook up the entire area.
That is a 6.8 earthquake.
That's a pretty serious earthquake.
It was felt in Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, and Egypt.
But you never really made it clear that the Republicans who claim that their principle is the preserve, protect, and defend the Second Amendment did not.
I said, specifically, I said, when it gets to the point where a party, a political party, abandons its core ideology, which is what the Republicans did when they voted that way, then it's all over, and there is no difference between the parties in my estimation whatsoever.
Not since, oh, God, who used to have Alexander King on all the time as a guest.
Not since the man who really took pleasure in peddling water, and I can't remember who the great open, the man who originally opened the door to the occult.
I would say, all things considered, while something in the article might be wrong, she did the investigation, and as soon as I read the article, you know, I tried to get in touch with Madman.
All right, it was about six months after those floods that they started finding all these deformed frogs.
And professionals in the area had it figured that the floods washed all the chemicals and whatnot that the farmers were putting on all the crops in the mid-states.
In other words, the pesticides and chemicals, and I suppose that is a reasonable opinion to hold, have caused these deformed frogs.
I would hope that would be true as opposed to the alternative, which might be something larger and more ominous.
Either way, it's not good.
They say they're having a hard time finding normal frogs out there.
Somehow that's not a good sign.
I'm not a scientist, and I don't pretend to be one.
But I don't think you have to be a scientist nor a rocket scientist at that to understand that two-headed frogs, four legs in the back, tails, stubs, these things are not good.
Say, Mr. Bell, would somebody kindly explain to the American people that the unions support Bill Clinton so that he will raise your taxes to pay them more money because they've driven all the big industry out of the country, And the only suckers left are the American taxpayers.
I mean, when we're done conditioning the American people to fear firearms and we go to war, you can't wave a magic wand and make every citizen that goes to defend his country proficient in the use of firearms.
So I think this war on guns and conditioning the American people to fear weapons is very dangerous indeed.
Give me some evidence that it is as easy to obtain a handgun illegally in Canada as it is in the U.S. You can't.
Well, I asked a man last night, you recall, from Vancouver, whether if he wanted a gun, could he pick a spot in Vancouver, B.C., and go to a side street somewhere and buy a gun without problem?
Caller said, yes, absolutely.
How many people are killed in Canada with handguns?
In England?
Do you know?
I don't have the figures in front of me, but I do know it is a small fraction of the number in the U.S.
This argument is a rationalization and is not based in fact.
And I find it hard to believe that you really believe it.
Of course, bad people will do bad things.
But do you really think the country would be worse off with fewer guns floating around?
Or what are you afraid of?
Your other argument is that people will still be murdered without guns.
Not only is this a defeatist attitude, but it is the same as saying people will still die without pollution.
So we might as well allow companies to destroy the ozone layer if it means better products or faster cars.
Thousands of people die in car accidents every year, so what's the point of all those stop signs?
Are things that bad in your reality that you need a gun?
If so, I would suggest that you remove yourself from your current situation because I can tell you from experience a person can live happily and comfortably without one.
I believe that people could live happily together without any guns.
In closing, I think it is inconsistent for you to fear the demise of mankind, the quickening, while simultaneously promoting it by creating a state of alarm in your audience and implying that they arm themselves.
It is also irresponsible.
These are serious issues that you need to recognize.
Your current viewpoint is not objective nor logical.
Step back.
Sign, Jared.
Well, Jared, I do utterly and completely disagree with you on every single point.
And with regard to my needing a gun, Jared, that is my constitutional right.
It is my choice, and it is my belief that I would defend myself with equal force to those who might attempt to harm me.
Jared, I'm 51 years old now.
I've owned guns all of my life since I think I was about 12 or 13.
I've been a gun owner.
And not once, Jared, have I gone rampaging through my neighborhood, my local school zone, my friends, my family.
Not once have I threatened anybody with a gun.
Not once, in a moment of madness, have I held my gun contemplating doing some random violence, and I have it for my own protection, Jared, and would not hesitate to use it.
And with regard to a knife or, you know, was it silly?
I don't think so.
People are killed with knives all the time.
And a knife wound is a horrible thing.
And a knife, it's just my own personal thing.
And I was just sort of commenting, given the choice between being killed by a knife and a gun, I'll take a gun any day.
I'd just soon not have a bullet to the liver, put one in the head.
You know, if you're going to go, go quickly.
Not slow, not a slow, agonizing death.
But, you know, that's just my own personal choice, Jared.
I have a particular fear and loathing for knives and sharp instruments and scalpels and cutting devices and that sort of thing.
So that's my own personal feeling.
However, Jared, if somebody is going to come at me with a knife, I'd just soon have a gun.
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Well, look, 13 years ago, when I began doing this program, which then was called West Coast AM and is now called Coast to Coast AM and actually ought to be called something else because it goes beyond, I decided that I would say exactly what I wanted to say.
That I would not be burdened, despite what I personally believe or my own ideology is, by trying to be some sort of cheerleader, some sort of guru politically for what I did not believe.
And I'm not going to do that.
And so I will tell you tonight, I watched the debate, vice presidential debate, and clearly Al Gore won.
Al Gore won.
Al Gore was more on top of it.
Al Gore is not one of my favorite people in all the world.
And when he's interviewed on the weekend shows, I just don't even bother to watch because it's boring.
But Al Gore won the debate.
Jack Kemp, to lose the debate, had to have a very bad day, and he did on several subjects.
The lead for the Clinton administration is about 21 points as we speak this morning.
There are some surveys that show him with less of a lead, none of them showing the race anywhere near close.
And I think the real lead is probably around 15 points or so.
But if that should hold through Election Day, it's going to be a total drubbing.
The American people are probably not going to make a lot of changes in Congress and the Senate.
I don't think they are anyway.
There could be a big coattail effect that we don't know about.
But right now, it kind of looks like the American people are going to return Congress pretty much the way it is.
Small change, perhaps, not a lot, is what I think.
With reference to the presidential race, I think a Bob Dole is done.
You might as well stick a fork in him.
He's done.
He's not going to win.
We're going to get another four years of the Clinton administration.
And in a lot of ways, he may deserve it.
He may deserve it.
He has not been that bad a president.
There are things about President Clinton that I'm not wild about, and they mostly have to do with his character.
They have to do with the fact that this is a man that can be anything to anybody and does constantly.
He's like a chameleon.
He can immediately change his stripes.
He's very good at what he does.
And his weakness, if he has one, is in the area of honesty, frankness, character, belief in some sort of core ideology.
These are areas where he is weak, and these are areas where Dole and now the vice presidential candidate as well have chosen not to take aim.
It's a done deal, folks.
It's over, as far as I'm concerned.
So there you have my take on that.
I'm sure a lot of you don't like it, but that's what I feel, and that's what I think, and so I'm telling you the truth.
Hello, Art.
I listened to the debate on the radio tonight, and I agree with you that if a winner must be declared, the winner was Gore.
Kemp was not up to his usual self, and Gore better than usual.
About Madman, oh, Madman, I've got to tell you about that.
If his experiments have been anywhere near successful, you can bet the government has him sequestered away, probably right next to you there in Area 51.
There is reason to worry about Madman this morning.
I got a call the other day from the St. Joseph News Press, a reporter, St. Joe, Missouri.
And she was leaving the newspaper and wanted to write one final story and wanted it to be about Madman.
So I gave her Madman's contact number and told her, she asked me some about the story, and I told her about it, and she went away and investigated and wrote the following article that was faxed to me by Ken in St. Joseph, Missouri.
Thank you, Ken.
The article is entitled T-minus 30 Days and Counting.
Hopeful Time Traveler appears on talk radio to tout near success.
Northwest Missouri's premier expert on time travel has garnered national attention from radio's King of the Supernatural, talk show host Art Bell.
Mike Markham, arrested last year for stealing electrical transformers to build a time machine, resurfaced recently, this time as a caller, actually a guest, on a late-night talk show.
Two weeks ago, the 23-year-old Markham told Mr. Bell he was, quote, 30 days away, end quote, from making the time machine work.
Calling from Perump, Nevada, I returned a call to her, on Tuesday, Mr. Bell said that he had promised Madman Markham he would fly to St. Joseph to document his historic event.
Well, we know all that, but here's where it gets weird.
The overnight host said, quote, if he's going to do it, we're going to videotape it, end quote.
He said this without a hint of laughter.
Apparently, Mr. Markham has gotten better at his electrical wizardry in the year since his arrest in Gentry County.
Quote, now listen, he sent a cat a block away, end quote, said Al Brown, a landlord of the Time Wizard.
But alas, in June, after Mr. Markham burned out the air conditioning unit in his Midtown apartment and zapped the electricity out of the building, Mr. Brown, quote, did not renew his lease, end quote.
Mr. Markham, who's said to have built his own transformers and has received materials from a major auto manufacturing company, has since disappeared.
Friends say they haven't seen him in two weeks.
Perhaps he was ahead of his 30-day schedule and did not take the time to tell anyone.
Now I am crushed that he would not tell me that he would go ahead like this.
He sent a cat a block away?
Well, if he was that far advanced in his biological experiments, well, I'm just sad that he wouldn't have chosen to contact me as he said he would.
Art, suggest you contact Ed Dames right away.
Have him use Madman as a target right away for students.
Got to find him.
Or, Art, if you're trying to find Madman, the proper question is not where is he?
Now I've got more on it here, and I'm going to read you this as I've got it, all right?
This is the Associated Press that I've got in my hot little palm.
I got a facts from a listener who said you better go to the CNN site website and take a look at the deformed frogs.
Well, a lady called a little while ago and said, Art, you know, when they had all the Midwest flooding, the theory is that frogs somehow are the recipient of all of the spray and the chemicals that the farmers had on their farmland flowed into the water and have affected the frogs.
Well, I'm sorry to say that one isn't, that dog does not hunt, won't hunt.
Listen to this.
Henderson, Minnesota.
Bruce Nelson was catching frogs.
This is Minnesota, folks, was catching frogs for catfish bait last year when he realized something was horribly wrong.
Some of the frogs had stumps for legs, and others had as many as four tangled hind legs.
You see deformed things all the time in nature, but never, said Nelson, never anything like this.
All across Minnesota, into neighboring Wisconsin, South Dakota, even as far away as Quebec in Canada, Vermont, East Coast folks, scientists and locals, I'm still reading from AP, are seeing the same kind of grotesquely misshapen limbs, along with frogs with tails, missing or shrunken eyes, and smaller sex organs.
In fact, scientists have had a hard time finding wetlands in Minnesota with no deformed frogs.
Judy Halgan, a researcher with the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, said, quote, it scares me.
I'm at different levels of getting a chill down my spine.
So I guess you would have to conclude that it's not the farmer's stuff that ran into the water.
Not with this kind of geographic spread.
So there you've got it.
I thought I would pass it along to you for what it is worth.
And, well, by understanding is Newt Gingrich took them into a nice, well, probably not smoke-filled room anymore, whatever-filled room, and told them they will vote for it.
Now, I understand that there are fewer gun murders, but then you've got to look at the per capita difference, not just in guns, but in murders, period.
And they managed to do themselves in other ways.
Now, what about those stats?
Do you happen to have those handy?
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Well, I think that's true, but you have to compare that with, what is it, 30,000 in the United States?
And this one comes from the New England Journal of Medicine.
And generally speaking, they say that for each intruder into your home who is killed by a gun, there are 43 people, i.e., gun-owning citizens, law-abiding citizens, who are killed by intruders only because they had a gun, because they went for it, try to defend themselves, and were then, because of that, shot by that intruder.
As you drove to work on that fateful morning, when the sun had not come up and it was dead dark out, not cloudy, not misty or foggy, just dead dark, what would you conclude?
I'm not asking this because I know something necessarily.
I'm just asking because I'm curious what you would conclude.
We've got a big, high-pressure system, and the jet stream is coming down in the middle of the country and curling its way east.
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Yeah, it's helping the crap out here, though.
Linecrop.
I want to commend you for telling the radio Free American guy, I think you caught him off guard on that a little bit.
Well, I disagree with him because when he calls, I don't well, he he's always on one candidate, and then he's so anti-Clinton, and I don't think he has an open mind about Clinton, which unfortunately I voted for Clinton, but I just didn't like him and Bush.
Now, he'll accuse me of saying this, but since we're on the subject, his closed mind on Clinton blinded him to what was going on in his own beloved party.
And I'll just leave it at that.
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Well, think about Pip Buchanan and Jesse Jackson and guys like that, Jerry Brown, those guys, I mean, they're smart as anything, but they just don't know.
Like Clinton, with the debate the other day, he was cool, he was calm.
You know, he just knows when to shut up and not when to talk crazy.
The other day, the other night in the debates, when Dole said, well, I'm not going to mention anything about Whitewater.
I thought that was kind of a cheap shot.
Well, if you're going to bring that up, you might as well go after him because, you know, it just and then the next day, yesterday he calls him a bozo, and he says he wasn't going to do his name-calling.
I just don't, you know, the guy is just, I don't know.
Dole is, you know, he's two weeks to the election, and he should watch every single word he says.
My conclusion, and I began to conclude this a long time ago, is that the country is going to make it through for more years of Bill Clinton.
It's going to make it through it.
It's not going to be a tragic going off the cliff kind of deal.
Mr. Clinton, no doubt, will begin to do some of the things in the final four years that he wanted to do in the first.
But assuming the American people go for a check in the check-and-balance system and generally return Congress intact, and I think they are going to, it's going to move along okay in the next four years.
Well, he rolls over and sort of gives me his belly, but not, he hasn't gone over on his back yet and spread all fours and said, go ahead, get the belly.
No, this is, I guess maybe I misread it, I near-sighted, but the only thing I love everything about it, the only thing I found out we had a power failure in Las Vegas around two weeks ago.
Yeah, but the one thing that about six months ago, they were talking about the ozone layer and the ultraviolet ray getting in and killing the frog eggs.
Well, I think, you know, like you say, the quickening, I mean, it's here, as far as I'm concerned.
Cuba, Boston, No Sun00:15:56
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And if the sun didn't come up, I would load up my truck in my little trailer and I'd head up into the woods because I wouldn't deal with being in the city if the sun never came up.
Well, I think that's well thought out, sir, and I appreciate it because in the city, it would be awful, wouldn't it?
Now, I don't expect that to occur.
And as I said, I'm not asking this question because I have some knowledge that one of these days she's not going to come around the horn anymore.
I don't.
I just kind of wonder what you would conclude in your own mind as you sat there or sat in your car on the way to work or whatever it was you did, what would be your initial conclusion?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Hello.
Oh, hi.
Hi.
Yes, I'm calling about that dream that you talked about, about when you were in Cuba, and you said you knew things that you didn't know how you knew them because you were never in Cuba.
If I were to go to Cuba and I saw, or I began to see, the things that I really graphically saw in my dream, frankly, I don't think I'd like it.
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Well, you know, what I have some friends doing about this, using lucid dreams to remember past lives, those are dreams in which people know they're dreaming when they're dreaming.
And the way this works is I suggest to people that if he falls asleep listening to the radio and hears the radio in his sleep, then he should pick a commercial that he hears sometimes and practice thinking every time he hears that commercial, he will wonder if he's dreaming.
And then he can do dream experiments.
He can have lucid dreams.
And some people report, and I as well, remembering past lives doing this.
Well, why don't you slip them some little subliminal suggestion right now?
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Yeah, well, you know, Art, the way they can test this, and I'm not talking about the tips of their thumbs, but the fingerprint part of their thumbs.
If they put the fingerprint part of their thumbs over their ear canals and still hear me, then they know they're dreaming because they know they're not really awake, really physically blocking the ear canals.
i'll say this much sir had we had uh... pro or maybe uh... harry brown or howard phillips in the debates at least we would have had other bankers Yeah.
I think the Congress, if we can have a Republican Congress for the next 40 years and every other year get a Republican in as a president, I think we'll do real well.
I'm asking that question just as a general question.
If the sun did not come up tomorrow, you know, you got up and had your coffee and you looked out.
God, it's kind of dark out there.
It's a cloudy day.
Then later you went out and, oh my gosh, there's no sun.
What would you conclude?
That is the question.
Dear Art, if that happened to me at 9.30 a.m., I'd call my stockbroker and I'd sell the following stock short.
Ray-Ban sunglasses, coppertone, amalgamated window tinting, and sun-kissed oranges.
Berry in Arizona.
Or how about this from New Orleans?
Dear Art, not a problem.
I've never been a day person anyhow.
Signed, Lestat, New Orleans.
Dear Art, if the sun did not come up, I would conclude that I was back on the dark side of the moon from whence I came, and I could only hope that I would never, ever have to return to this cesspool of humanity.
Well, there's a bright word from somebody who calls himself Basement John.
Hey, Art, just downloaded a Hubble photo of the Crab Nebula.
It is two weeks old, and I could see a little dot heading into the nebula.
It's got to be Madman Markham.
Oh, that's another subject.
Madman may be history.
I wonder if we should do something special for Madman.
Have a moment of silence or something.
You're not supposed to do that on radio.
I don't know.
I'll have to think about it.
Some sort of tribute to Madman.
Art, I've actually had something similar like your what if happen to me.
I woke up turning off my obnoxious alarm only to realize I was late for work.
So, quickly, I put my pants on, ran a comb through my hair, squeezed a dab of toothpaste into my mouth, sped off to work in my car.
I first noticed something was up when the traffic was so minimal.
In 3rd Nephi, it talks about when the Savior came to Bethlehem on the western the American continent, pretty much the exact opposite of what you're talking about happened.
There was a day and a night and a day with no darkness.
I'm blind, and we have four-track long-play tapes, and the way they're set up, it will play regular tapes backwards.
And so I thought, why not?
I'm going to sit here and see if I can figure out any reversals.
And I found a few, but they were very far-spaced.
Sounded like when he was talking about his halfway house, I thought I might have heard hellfire.
One that I thought was fascinating with you is he said, yeah, right, a light bulb turned on, and I played it backwards, and yeah, right, you said it again backwards.
I was thinking, if that is a gateway to another space, let's just hope it's not a gateway to outer space because it might try to suck our atmosphere right off the planet.
Well, I would think it would be the other way around.
In other words, it would suck the atmosphere from Madman's lungs if he were to be projected into a vacuum where nobody can hear you scream in space, right?
Well, considering how they managed to get a hold of Stan Dale when he was doing his experiment, I'm wondering if they might have gotten a hold of Madman before he went any farther with his.
Off on an alternative planet, maybe even good old Mother Earth in some other time or dimension, wandering around looking for some other, any other living thing.
You know, I missed a couple nights because I've been feeling ill, but I don't know if you've got the hot information about a journalist from New York by the name of George Carpozzi.
George Putnam first had him on, then Ray Brame had him on the other day.
And this man wrote a book called Clinton Confidential: The Climb to Power.
And he has documentation that Ross Perot and a bunch of other CEOs were on this here list to helping Hillary Clinton try to push this socialized health plan through.
The health care plan was knocked down long ago, as you know.
It was far too ambitious, as we all know.
Yeah, I know that, but he claims that Ross Perot made many contacts with Clinton.
Well, I'm sure he did.
Ross Perot was probably generally in favor of that plan.
He had worked with the government, we all know, with regard to earlier government contracts on health care, so it's not a surprise.
Why is that a shock?
Well, what it was is what this guy said is that he wanted to put in some kind of a plan of his own, you know, but he was like bumping heads with Hillary.
But just the idea that here's a guy running for office, he had a lot of people all over the country really heffed up behind him.
I even voted for him like you did, and I feel taken in now.
And it's like it was kind of like a fraudulent election, you know, just he was a spoiler, in other words, the way this guy says, you know, it's a spoiler, you know, to get pushed.
Well, I know a lot of people thought that, but thank you.
The real truth is, in all the polling data they did after the last election, they determined that had Ross Perot not been in that election, the votes would have split just about exactly evenly between the Republicans and the Democrats had Ross been out of the election.
So for all the people that think he was a spoiler, the facts say he was not.
He's going to be far less of an influence in this election, in this boring, horrible election coming up.
I'm wondering if it has something to do with black budget stuff.
I'm wondering if it has something to do with this human genome thing and testing things and animals and who's messing with this and why.
I'm beginning to think, Art, that we do have one party.
I'm beginning to wonder if we haven't already been invaded by something from elsewhere.
I also wonder why when I watch the NASA station, whenever we have something flying up in the air and we look down and see the earth, they never show us the polls.
And I want to know exactly what that was up in the air.
They lied about Roswell, and I don't believe this thing about high-altitude radar testing, leaving those weird colors and that weird shape of that white trail in the sky.
For the first time in my life, I thought I was going to vote for Bob Dole.
But I don't think I'm going to.
I like Harry Brown a lot.
But there are a couple of critical areas of disagreement I have with Harry.
I may not vote.
I voted for Ross Perot in the last presidential election.
I still kind of wish he'd made it to office.
He would have really, really shook him up.
And they'd have shaken him up.
He wouldn't have lasted long, but he'd have gone in there and raised hell, you know.
So I'm actually to the point for the first time, actually, the first time in my adult life when I'm not sure that my vote, I'm not going to say my vote wouldn't make a difference, but I'm not sure that I would cast it with any clear understanding of what I was doing.
Or yeah, I suppose I could even say that it would make a difference because I'm not sure it does make a difference.
I'm really not sure.
Gun control, critical core issues.
I'm not sure it makes a difference.
And if it doesn't make a difference, if I really can't understand in my mind why there would be a real difference, and I'm not even sure, you know, the argument I know are the Supreme Court appointments.
I'm not sure there's a difference there.
Both of these candidates are liable to appoint very middle-of-the-road Supreme Court justices.
I wanted to let you know that I really agree with you on the gun control thing, and I apologize for the noise.
I'm on a cell phone.
I'm driving a semi-truck.
Oh.
But I've had, you know, in my years past, I've always had a handgun at home when I was raising kids and my husband was on the road and I was there by myself.
Sure.
And I'm a levelhead school secretary, you know, church-going normal, you know, everyday American woman.
I don't really feel like it's fair for the government to be able to say that we can't have handguns.
At this point in my life, I'm driving trucks now with my husband, and we go to and from Canada every night.
And interesting enough, we can't have the guns with us going in, and yet the East Indian people that are in Canada can carry their great, big, huge knife, you know, swatch, whatever you call them.
Sure.
Anyway, and they call it a religion.
Nighttime Rush on the Market00:15:21
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So I figured the answer for us is evidently we need to have a religion for people that want to be able to still have handguns for protection of their families.
All right, let me update you since we're past the 1 o'clock hour.
There's a lot of stations that join us, probably don't know what we're talking about.
I'm going to read you.
There was a CNN piece earlier today about deformed frogs.
I'm sorry to say that I've got an Associated Press article here that goes way beyond that.
And a lady called me and said, Art, you know, these deformed frogs are because of the Mississippi flooding.
And that's why we've got them.
I thought, well, there's a good explanation, but it's not.
And that will become apparent to you as you listen to this.
Associated Press, not me making it up, AP.
Bruce Nelson was catching frogs for catfish bait last year when he realized something was horribly wrong.
Some of the frogs had stumps for legs.
Others had as many as four tangled hind legs tangled.
You see deformed things all the time in nature, he said, but nothing like this.
All across Minnesota, into neighboring Wisconsin, South Dakota, as far away as Quebec in Canada and Vermont in the U.S., scientists and locals are seeing the same kind of grotesquely misshapen limbs, along with frogs with tails, missing or shrunken eyes, and smaller sex organs.
In fact, scientists have had a hard time finding wetlands in Minnesota with no deformed frogs.
Judy Helgin, a research scientist with the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, said, it scares me.
I'm at different levels of getting a chill down my spine.
So there you are.
And I've got a big new report on the ozone hole here that I'm going to try and digest.
It is not a simple read-it kind of deal.
It's several pages of a technical explanation of what they have found.
Regarding Madman Markham, I'm almost to the point of trying to figure out a memorial for the poor guy.
I don't know for sure that he's gone, but the signs are bad.
There's an article in the St. Joe Press indicating that Madman sent a cat a block away through his machine, and it turned up a block away.
A madman is missing, according to this article, quoting, friends say they have not seen him in two weeks, and they speculate he may have been ahead of schedule with regard to his T-minus 30 days and counting.
So Madman may be gone.
Or if he's not gone, he may be changed.
Art, my wife, Jackie, brought this to my attention for a possible documentary we might do.
I thought you thought about it when you talked about the frogs, Jerry and L.A.
We never miss a night.
Thank the Masons for bringing Dreamland K-A-B-C.
Thank the Masons.
Art, hi, we are faxing you to ask a quick question.
Are you planning to have another board op night anytime soon?
And if so, when?
You know, you are absolutely right.
This is Sean and Phil, your faithful board ops, at 780 KOH Reno.
I do that every now and then.
I did it once before.
I had a board knot, board op night, I think the first in the nation, where we take calls from all the board operators around the country.
And you're absolutely right.
It has been too long, and I will do another, and I will do it soon.
How about that?
UFOs over Nashville.
WWTN last night gave a report during their hourly news regarding a UFO sighting in Franklin, Tennessee, about 15 miles south of Nashville.
Seems citizens as well as sheriff's deputies witnessed the UFO hovering over a field for about an hour.
Dear Art, Tuesday night, I took my astronomy class outside to look through the telescope.
While we were out there, among the people who stopped by to see what we were doing was a member of the campus police force who told me that they had just come from the other side of the campus where they had been called to investigate some people fighting with swords.
Every time someone has become number one locally in this market, this individual, who's kind of a megalomaniac, I won't mention his name, Start shifting their time, starts stepping on their show around the news breaks and stuff.
For the last week, it's been very difficult to get any of your call-in numbers because you usually announce them at the top and the bottom of the hour.
You know, is the main reason because everybody that he's dumped has been pretty much that has a person that has chosen not to follow what he considers the party line.
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As a matter of fact, he even fired a sportscaster for ridiculing the big guy.
But when you have him, like in this market, you can get him two to three times a day.
And you can get the people that are, let's say, more informative, the people that say that have guests on and offer more of a diversity of opinion, are the ones that are squeezed out of this market totally.
He's even managed to get on TV sometime where they, like a sports talk show, where they goad each other on with real adolescent insults, and that's basically the whole show.
Thank you for the call, but I wouldn't worry about it.
KTRH has been a very loyal, very, very good affiliate.
The numbers there are very solid, and I wouldn't be concerned about it.
We are simply a very different kind of talk show than Rush.
Rush does what he does, and he does it very well.
I choose a different path.
It's not that I necessarily disagree with a lot of what Rush says, because I don't.
The guy is brilliant.
That cannot be denied.
Rush is absolutely brilliant.
I just choose a different path.
And nighttime audiences and daytime audiences are different animals.
And so I program to a nighttime audience, a different audience.
And I hope that what we do in our time segment is as well received, and according to the surveys, it certainly is, as what is done during the day is received by that audience.
Not everybody needs to follow in the big guy's footsteps.
I don't do that.
As a matter of fact, actually, I don't follow in anybody's footsteps.
I prefer to create my own and do what I enjoy doing.
And I wouldn't worry about KTRH.
They are a superb affiliate, well-respected in Houston, and have been carrying the show for a very, very long time.
And it's been number one for a very, very long time.
So if it was number oneness that would get you done in, we would have been done in some time ago.
All right, we're going to take a quick break, do a couple of things.
As a matter of fact, I'm late to do them, and we'll be right back.
That's about what I give you, about a half hour a night of boring politics.
And yes, I know what a woolly mammoth is, and I thought I would ask her anyway.
After all, if they can bring back a woolly mammoth, then why not Enderthal, and she'd be the first one to be asked about that, wouldn't she?
Art Bell, I'm Brian from San Diego.
You just stated on your program that the ship, O.R. Cruz, is already half-booked for the trip to the pyramids.
I called on the first day that you had the ad on to get the pamphlet.
I haven't received any information yet.
After hearing it's half-booked, I'm upset.
It's a life dream of mine to see the pyramids, and I don't want to miss out.
I'd like to meet you also.
I believe it will be the trip of all trips.
Most of the people going probably have not seen the pyramids in person, and like me, will be truly amazed.
It'll be fun sharing that experience with people for the first time.
Yes, you're right.
Look, don't worry.
It is true that it's about half-booked, and the reason that is true is because there have been a number of people who haven't even waited for the pamphlets.
They've just called up and said, book me.
You know, book them, Dano.
I'm going.
So don't worry.
You're okay.
If you've got the pamphlet on the way, you're okay.
And you're probably okay anyway.
But the early bird gets the cheap rate.
That's why we're concentrating.
There's several reasons we're on this early.
It's because you get a better rate.
It's because you get a better cabin.
It's because there are more cabins to be had before everything's gone.
And this is booking fast.
I'll give you that.
There are just a lot of people who have called up and said, book me.
You know, send me the pamphlet later, but book me now.
I think that Mr. Clinton is going to be reelected.
And I hope to hell he's not impeached.
I mean, I've already faced this reelection business.
I know that's going to occur.
America going through an impeachment.
You see, I went through the Richard Nixon years, believe me, as many of you did.
It is so horrible for a country that even with Mr. Clinton, it is the last thing you should ever want or ever hope for or wish for.
An impeachment or even a threatened impeachment producing a resignation is so terrible that it takes a nation 30 years or a generation to recover from it.
No, you don't want that.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
Hi.
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Yeah, I've been listening to you for a while, and I'm surprised how rude you are to your callers and your speech and how you talk to him, just to go sh to show what kind of a smoker face you really are.
I've got a studio show on the whole world right now at this time.
And I saw that debate tonight, and I just, you know, like for you, I've been pretty much, you know, dissatisfied from last year when they were talking about putting dough in there.
I think, you know, so much for Dan Quay.
I thought Dan Quay would have, you know, he had problems in the past, but I think he would have done a lot better with Powell in there, him and Powell.
She goes to community college and takes several courses.
She had to take out a student loan to take these classes.
She works two jobs to pay for rent.
She lives with her grandmother, and she barely has money to put gas in her car and eat on.
And she's having to pay for her own schooling and everything.
And she gets about five hours of sleep a night.
And it makes me sick.
I used to work at a grocery store, and my mom used to work for a wel welfare office.
And it makes me sick to see these people come in with more gold than probably Fort Knox has, driving long Cadillacs, wearing fur coats.
And when they go to pick up their welfare check, they take off the fur coats and jewelry and go in in jogging clothes, pick up their check, and then go to the grocery store and spend that on steaks and stuff.
And then they got hundreds of dollars to build to pay for the other stuff that's not covered under that food stamps or whatever they have.
I mean, a matter of very short time indeed, what people are given freely as a privilege, they, within a very short time, come to expect as an absolute right.
And if they don't get it, oh, man, there is hell to pay.
And so, but I was surprised that it was not even discussed or didn't come up hardly at all that morning.
And so that's the reason why I called in to say, gave my two cents in, that, hey, as a Christian and person who believes in creationism, does not believe in evolution, that we're not connected to those stupid Neanderthals anyhow, right?
Oh, by the way, I didn't really call about this, but have you heard about the new FCC ruling at the first of the year that may cut us back to 50 watts on HL?
He said Billy Graham has said he believes in life on Mars or life on life away from here.
Out there somewhere, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
Anyway, another thing that on the same broadcast that I called about was about this student somewhere that was evidently in grammar school, I guess, and he was strip searched to look for panel marks.
Apparently, maybe someone thought he was getting peddled at home.
Dear Art, the national elections appear to have as much credibility as professional wrestling.
It's becoming more and more apparent that the ruling oligarchy of this country has an agenda.
Citizens presented with a dog and pony show.
I first began to get suspicious with the extremely poor campaign of George Bush in 1992.
James Baker openly threw in the towel at the end of the campaign.
I have my suspicions reinforced, had them reinforced, when Republican candidates refused to, quote, go for the juggler vein, end quote.
This was very apparent with Jack Kemp's less than typical performance tonight.
Increasingly, the courts are becoming the implementers of the ruling elites agenda.
Sincerely, Ron and Fresno.
Dead on Ron.
That's what we'll call you, dead on Ron.
Exactly right, and that is the way I am reading all of this too, I'm sorry to say.
And I'm probably feeling a little discouraged tonight, but I'm avoiding it by hardly talking about it because I see no redeeming value in thrashing it to death.
I see what's happening happening right now.
I saw it coming much, much, much earlier.
Well, I've seen it coming for almost a year now.
And I don't know quite yet what to fully make of it.
I'm certainly not prepared to say they are throwing an election.
You know, he said there would be a shortage of frogs.
Frogs would start to disappear.
Well, if these frogs are mutating and all that, they might not be able to reproduce.
And, you know, this might be the beginning stages of that.
He also said that the climate would change.
Numerous viruses would develop that we would have a real hard time with, new viruses.
Yes.
And that there would be a great number or a great increase in the death of babies.
And I don't know whether these were supposed to come in the order that he presented them on the radio or not, but it was the frogs first, the baby second, the ozone being latticed across the middle latitudes of the planet.
And then that just will make when he does reveal, after he finishes the project with Project Starman, come across with a lot more credence if these things come to pass.
I haven't heard much about acid rain lately, but you are correct.
I remember the concern about it.
But it was mainly for deforestation, and they were, I believe, noting less foliage toward the top of mountains in more exposed areas where there was a lot of acid rain.
But I don't think anybody had related it to animal species problems.
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Oh, no, but it could have gotten into the food chain.
You know, here is where I differ with a lot of conservatives.
Conservatives tend to, for ideological reasons, say this kind of thing is baloney.
And I'm just, I'm not one of those.
I think something is going on.
I have always thought the ozone business was real.
Let me read this to you, okay?
You should hear it.
It's the Associated Press.
Dateline, Henderson, Minnesota.
Bruce Nelson was catching frogs for catfish bait last year when he realized something was horribly wrong.
Some of the frogs had stumps for legs, others had as many as four tangled hind legs.
He said, quote, you see deformed things all the time in nature, but nothing like this, end quote.
All across Minnesota, into neighboring Wisconsin, South Dakota, even as far away as Quebec and Vermont, scientists and locals are seeing the same kind of grotesquely misshapen limbs, along with frogs with tails, missing or shrunken eyes, and smaller sex organs.
As a matter of fact, scientists have a hard time finding wetlands in Minnesota with no deformed frogs.
Judy Helgin, that's H-E-L-G-E-N, a research scientist with the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, said, quote, it scares me.
I'm at different levels of getting a chill down my spine.
Well, then I would say his debate opponent came more across like a third-grade student listening to his teacher.
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Well, now, he could have come back pitching, but this is my whole feeling about the liberal group, is that they're telling me what I should be doing and that they know what's best for me.
And I taught for many years, and I saw this type of thing come into the teaching philosophy, that the professionals knew what was best for us.
It even came across one time in a comment that, oh, well, we know better than the parents do what's good for their children.
And that really curled me because I was both sides of the disc, both a teacher and a parent.
And the parents are the primary teachers.
And the whole philosophy now is we'll take care of you.
Has it occurred to you that we've become a nation of people who want to hear that?
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Oh, yes, definitely.
Even the old biblical saying, a nation gets the leaders that they deserve.
And that's why I'm so fearful.
I'm going to vote straight Republican down the line just to try to hope and pray that we can turn this socialism around because it's not Democrat anymore.
But I know if you're used to the clarity of FM and you've got to go back to A.M. now, and with selective fading at that, why it's not a happy situation.
Well, I never quite bought into this fear-based business about trade.
I was never a real part of that movement.
And I'm still not.
But he is an interesting, informed, articulate individual.
Thank you very much for the call, even if I don't happen to agree with him.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello.
Yes, all right.
That's Jeff from Smyrna, Tennessee.
Yes, Jeff.
And I heard somebody call in earlier and said something about you being rude on the air.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, sometimes you have to be rude with some people, and that's usually the way it has to go because some people need to be treated that way.
But I've called you about three or four times, and the only thing I find bad about any rudeness would you like I hear you say, you know, thanks for calling or whatever.
And you always hang up on me.
And I'm going to never call unless I have something intelligent to add to the program.
He was a proponent of tax cuts, more money in the pocket of the people, ultimately meaning more money in the pocket of the government.
But a tax cut right now is a pretty tough sell.
And even though it may be a good idea and might produce more revenue for the government, Bob Bill has certainly not articulated how he would pay for it.
The president has said it'll knock a big hole in the deficit.
I heard that frogs were absorbing the water through their skin calls with them being amphibian and then perhaps absorbing chemicals what would make them perform the way they were.
The water and pollutants that we're putting in the water, we really need to look at our environment and start taking care of it because we only get one.