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Oct. 5, 1996 - Art Bell

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David John Oates reveals reverse speech—a phenomenon where unconscious truths or lies are embedded in backward audio layers of forward speech, detectable through tonal shifts. His method, honed since 1980s Australia and later applied to figures like Bill Clinton ("you're fired" in reversals) and Bob Dole ("those jerks have they now"), claims no one can evade its truth-revealing power, even liars. From babies’ cries to Nostradamus’ prophecies, Oates ties it to the collective unconscious, suggesting politics and media may never hide intentions again if widely adopted. [Automatically generated summary]
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Never Heard Before 00:05:14
unidentified		This is the CBC Radio Network.
unidentified		It certainly is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		We'll turn now from the very serious to the lighter.
		Or is it still the serious?
		That's for you to decide.
		It certainly is fascinating.
		My guest coming up is David John Oates.
		The subject, Reverse Speech.
		And believe me, you've never heard anything like it.
		It is absolutely incredible.
		We had David on several weeks ago, and we'll let him tell you what happened.
		I have the bio of David John Oates, but I've got something better.
		I've got a letter from somebody he knows, and he has no idea I'm going to read this, but I'm going to read it.
		Art, I've had the privilege of being a private client of David John Oates since September 26, 1995.
		I was referred to David by my former osteopath, who sensed I had some major unconscious blocks to my healing.
		I was poisoned from ingesting contaminated and a certain contaminated drug in January of 1990, and my life has been a downward spiral of constant pain, illness, abandonment, medical bills, insurance hassles, maltreatment from dozens of various professionals in the medical field since such time.
		This brief background of my life circumstance is what led me to open my mind to work with David at an unconscious level.
		After reading the cover story article on David John Oates in a holistic newspaper last September, I went to hear a lecture he gave in San Diego.
		I went intending to only briefly stay as my pain level is such it makes sitting for extended periods hard.
		However, I sat mesmerized in my chair for the entire three hours, and at the insistence of the awestruck, eager crowd, David generously gave us an extra hour of his time and expertise.
		From the first moment I saw David and heard his genius discovery of reverse speech, I knew I was destined to work with him.
		Art, I've been seen by some of the big-name doctors at prominent research facilities up and down the West Coast.
		Not one of them had given me any hope for healing from my life of pain and misery.
		David, on the other hand, has given me genuine hope for a pain-free life by working with me on an intimate, deep, unconscious level.
		David has demonstrated extraordinarily high integrity in working with me and has never quit on me when many others had, despite the fact that his discovery of reverse speech is of Nobel Prize caliber.
		David remains a humble, approachable man of great character and depth.
		I feel honored to work so closely with David.
		I commend you, Art, for hosting David on your prominent radio show so he can spread his amazing technology throughout the world.
		Reverse speech reveals the truth, and the ramifications of David's monumental discovery can be used for tremendous good in the world.
		On a personal note, I'm overjoyed to report that I'm finally beginning to heal myself of things experts deemed incurable.
		David John Oates, remarkable man and gifted therapist, deserves all the credit for this miracle.
		That's from Cassandra in San Diego.
		David John Oates is the founder and developer of reverse speech technologies.
		He proposes a theory that language, ours, all language, is twofold, forward and reverse.
		By analyzing speech in reverse, the newly discovered voices of the unconscious may easily be heard by a trained ear, and in many cases, an untrained ear.
		David is a popular guest on radio and TV, including CNN's Larry King show, Extra and Strange Universe.
		And he conducts student training in reverse speech.
		And if you have never heard it, prepare to have your mind blown.
		This is going to be a real experience for you.
		Here is David John Oates.
		And David has a speech impediment.
		And this, by the way, which we discussed on the last show, is what led him logically into a study of speech.
Intentional Backmasking 00:07:10
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's how all this really began, is it not, David?
unidentified		That is correct, Art.
unidentified		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I've had a speech status since I, as well, since my early teenage years.
		And actually, when I was in high school, I could barely get two words out.
		And I can actually recall when I was in first year high school, I stood up to ask a question of my teacher at the time, and I could barely speak.
		And he said to me, David, would you sit down and don't talk to me again until you can speak correctly?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And that ruined my entire high school years.
		I never asked another question again.
		And I eventually left high school without graduating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that must have been awful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's awful.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That was disgusting.
unidentified		That really ruined me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And it's been a long battle ever since then to climb up out of that statement.
		And, you know, we forget the power of our words.
		You know, what we say to people, both forward and backward now, as my discovery shows, has the ability to help us or to hurt us really, you know.
		And yeah, so I'd just like to make that comment before I start.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, how in the world, I am curious, how in the world did you get an interest or even discover the concept of reverse speech?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's quite a simple story, really.
		I was running a halfway house for strict kids in Australia in the Outback, and this was back in 83.
		And we had an evangelist from the United States traveling through, and he was preaching that rock and roll is the devil's music.
unidentified		And if you play records backwards, you can hear satanic messages.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back masking.
unidentified		Back masking, that's correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I had some of my kids were playing these records backwards, and they came to my office claiming that they could hear demons speaking to them.
		My initial reaction was anger.
		I was really upset at this evangelist for preaching such rubbish to the kids.
		And I went home that night to rewire a tape player to prove that all this was a load of rubbish.
		I mean, how can you play speech backwards or music backwards and hear stuff?
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm sure all of us have had that same thought.
		And, however, I've got a fairly good ear for audio.
		I'm an amateur radio operator and been sipping around with electronics for most of my life.
		And I put a tape in the tape player and ran it back and much to my shock, I heard what I thought was a very clear message.
		And there was no superimposed soundtrack, and what was happening was the backward phrase was occurring purely by the way the forward phrase was put together.
		In other words, by the way the phonetics of the syllables were sung forwards, was sung in such a peculiar fashion that it caused a complete intelligent sentence backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is very interesting.
		In other words, that was real backmasking or is it real backmasking in the sense that it was not actually played backwards.
		There have been a number of groups, I think.
		The Beatles did it, didn't they?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, they did it quite intensely with their whole Paul is dead controversy.
		They hit messages in that hinted Paula died, and it was really just a marketing gimmick.
		There's actually two different types of backmasking, and the two get confused.
unidentified		One is intentional, and one is not intentional.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's just caused by the way the words are spoken or sung at the time.
		And religious fundamentalists got a hold of this, and they heard these messages, and they were saying, oh, well, gee, how could this get there?
		And the only possible explanation is the thing is a demon-possessed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Therein lies a question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you're talking about music, David, would the backmasking be the person who wrote the song or the person who sings it?
unidentified		Oh, what an interesting question.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't totally have the answer to that question.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I actually moved out of music into speech.
unidentified		It was a whole bunch more simpler.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, my general answer is to do with the entire creative processes around the actual writing of the song.
		I think it's with the artist and the tune combined.
		I've did numerous tests on this.
		And, for example, that's Fairway to Heaven.
		I looked at several different versions of Stairway to Heaven by different artists and different tunes.
		And sometimes I would find exactly the same reversal from artist to artist, and other times I wouldn't.
		I think in the original creation process, it comes from the artist who writes the song.
		But as other artists sing it, their own thoughts influence their singing style and hence the reverse phrases.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		fascinating and and and and and we need to get into a little bit of what when there is reverse speech as you listen at first of all i guess everybody ought to know you don't mess with it You don't add echo or manipulate what you're doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're simply taking regular speech and at the same speed.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You're literally running it backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Literally running it backwards.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		On point of fact, if I was to process the sound, I actually tend to lose the reversals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Any attempt to process or compress the sound actually clips the top of the reversals off because they're actually occurring in the high tones of speech.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And processing clips the top of the wave and you lose it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I found absolutely fascinating that we hit on in the last show, when you're listening to reverse speech, you'll go along and you'll hear a lot of mumbo-jumbo that doesn't mean anything.
		When you get to a reverse speech item that really is reverse speech, there's a kind of a...
		how did you describe it last time?
		A sort of a.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a sing-song tone.
		There's a distinct tonal shift is the words I generally use.
		The gibberish has a monotone tone to it.
		Then there's a split-second gap just before the reversal occurs, and the tonality shifts very dramatically.
		And it takes on this sing-song melodious tone for the entire duration of the reversal.
		And when the reversal finishes, it gives reflocks back to the normal monotone tone.
		And when I'm teaching my classes, that's one of the very first things I teach my students to look for: is what's of that tonal shift.
		And you can feel it too.
		You can actually feel it on a fairly deep level.
		And a lot of my students will know there's reversal there simply by the shifting tonality, but still not yet had their ears trained enough yet to pull out what that reversal means.
Reversal Revelations 00:06:10
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In the last program we did, I began to hear that.
		And when you said that, it was like a light bulb going off.
		Yeah, right.
		It is different.
		As you listen through reverse speech, it's totally different.
		All of a sudden, boom, it jumps out at you.
		And okay, the audience should now know that reverse speech reveals not what you're consciously thinking necessarily, but what you're unconsciously thinking.
		And David, you've said in reverse speech, if a person in Forward has told the truth, reverse speech, when you find it, will tend to confirm that truth.
		But if they have lied, it will reveal the lie.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		My belief is the human psyche was made and born to be honest and truthful and integral.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And over the eons and centuries, we have slipped further and further away from honesty and that basic truth with a capital T.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then there ought to be a lot of material for you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of material for me.
unidentified		Yes, there is.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And it's interesting that, you know, the more the one of the things I teach my analysts, you know, when they're interviewing people, sometimes, you know, there's a tendency on my analyst to push them to tell the truth.
		And then I say, no, don't.
		Let them lie as much as they lie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let them go because you'll be able to.
unidentified		So, really, you help out therapists.
unidentified		Are you a therapist?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've been in therapy for 10 years.
		I'm a certified hypnotherapist.
		I'm also an NLP master practitioner.
		So they're the qualifications I run by.
		I have a fairly large practice in San Diego.
		I was shocked you read that letter.
		You really took me by surprise.
		I'll have to ring up Cassandra tomorrow and speak to her about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought it was a nice testimonial for you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It was very nice.
		And in point of fact, my client files are full of testimonials very similar to that.
		Reverse speech is an extremely very powerful tool for accessing the unconscious mind.
		One of the problems facing traditional therapy is to actually get to the source of the problem.
		Therapists can take years and years to reach that source if they ever do.
		And reverse speech goes right to it in the first tape recording.
		I will see a client, the very first thing I will do is I will tape them.
		And in that one half an hour tape, I will get the precise reasons and causes for that person's psychosis or whatever issue they're working on.
		In addition to that, on the deepest level, reverse speech actually accesses what I call the core structures of the unconscious mind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then how do you come at a patient?
		Do you do it in the traditional way in forward speech and just let them say their thing?
		Or do you have questions that are angled a little differently?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've developed my own questioning technique.
unidentified		There's certain key words that will prompt certain key reversals to occur.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		There's certain tonal shifts that I move into to elicit reversals.
		And I've learnt these over the years.
		The fact is, I mean, if anyone talks, speech reversals will occur.
		I mean, that they give them because it's the natural function of language.
		You can learn to specifically enhance or direct what reversals you want.
		And so in therapy, I have a very specific questioning style, and I actually spend three weekends in my training class teaching people how to do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the day will come in America or the world when reverse speech will be court admissible?
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And in point of fact, there has already been a precedent set which sets for this, and that was in the Judas Priest Trial in Rena, Nevada.
		One of the rulings of the judge was that these phrases did exist, but there was no evidence put forward to suggest it was caused by anything else other than coincidence.
		And also, there was no evidence put forward to suggest that it was sublimely suggestive.
		So the precedent has already been set, and I'm just waiting for a trial case.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how would one attempt to validate as a science reverse speech?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you use a lie detector, for example?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be one way to go about it, to verify, to verify.
		Well, there's many different ways that you could do.
		I would suggest for a start some trial test with lie detectors to look at the reading of the lie detector compared to the analysis of reverse speech.
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Blind tests are also a very good way to go about it.
		I will frequently do this.
		I will put 10 or 15 reversals down on tape without a script or a transcript, and I'll apply it to three different groups of people.
		And one group I'll say, this is what the reversal says.
		Another group, I will give them a control phrase.
		I'll say, the reversal says this, when it actually doesn't.
		And another group, I'll ask them what to hear.
		And normally without failure, the group one will hear the phrase, group two will not hear the phrase, and group three will get a word here and there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a special request for you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is, it comes from several listeners.
		We're about after the bottom of the hour to get into some incredible examples of reverse speech.
		But the big first debate is coming this Sunday.
Forward and Reverse Speech 00:09:25
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I've had many, many people fax me already and say, be sure David records the full debate.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I have every intention of doing that.
		In point of fact, I did have a camping trip scheduled for my family this weekend, and much to my daughter's dismay, I canceled the trip.
		Get ready for the debate.
		And I'll put that up on my website.
unidentified		That's what I'll do.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'll put the entire transcript on there plus the reversal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know, like, the candidates don't have enough to worry about already?
		Now they've got David John Oates on their back.
		All right, wonderful.
		David, we're going to take a break here at the bottom of the air.
		And when we come back, if you would crank out a couple of examples that we had on the last show to get them started, maybe Neil Armstrong.
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That one's a good idea.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming up right after the break, my guest is David John Oates.
		I'm Art Bell.
		is cbc back now to david john holtz and And David, tell me before we get started, since the first time you were on my program, what's happened?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Quite a lot.
		I've pretty much been inundated with phone calls.
		Well, first of all, from the press.
		I've been on extra TV.
		I was on there last night, and we have also filmed a major special on Reverse Speech that will air on October 30th.
		I mean, contacted by Hard Copy.
		I'm flying up to Seattle, Washington at the end of the month to do a TV promo and our special up there on KOMO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's my affiliate in Seattle.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my goodness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've been busy.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Extremely busy.
		My phone line hasn't stopped ringing.
		It's just been going non-stop.
		I've been waiting, 13 years for this.
		I've been working very, very, very hard.
		I put in probably a hundred hours every week on this.
		And it's a great joy for me to finally see my technology getting out there.
		My book is in the printers now, so it's on its final print, so it'll be out in two weeks.
unidentified		And my technology is being launched.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		The audience ought to know the following, and that is that all reverse speech is not necessarily easy for the average person to hear.
		And the analogy I gave last time was I worked as a 911 operator in Monterey County for about a year, which was an incredible job.
		And one was required for a period of weeks to simply sit, not do the job, just listen so that you could learn how to hear things simultaneously.
		It was really a hard thing to do for me and for anybody who tries it.
		And so you hear reverse speech that we don't.
		After the last program, I asked you to sit down with some people who had the common ear and the untrained ear and sort of note those reverse speech items which lit the light bulb for the average person.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which is what we would use here on the air.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, we began the last show with Neil Armstrong, I believe.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I think that was the first one I played.
		I really can't recall, but it tends to be the first one I play because it was one of the very first reversals in speech I heard myself.
		So it's one of my favorite, favorite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I can understand why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, coming more on Bill Clinton tonight, and I understand you have a couple of reversals on me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I do indeed, Art.
		You are an interesting chap.
		The people out there will get to hear what you're really thinking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's do Neil Armstrong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And everybody's going to be hearing this first in the forward direction.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then in reverse, and then so they can hear it properly, I think, three different speeds of reverse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First, the normal and then one.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then what do you do?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll run it forwards first, and I'll go back to three speeds.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And then probably what I'll do, I'll play it forwards and backwards and forwards and backwards successively so you can just hear how it's constructed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's give it a try with Neil Armstrong, that famous sentence.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go forwards first.
unidentified		That's one small step around.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		One play out with okay, now I'll run it backwards at three speeds, and backwards he says, man will spacewalk.
unidentified		And here we go.
unidentified		I am going backwards.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And the speech reversal, man will spacewalk, has been formed entirely by the way he said his forward speech sound.
unidentified		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So here it is, forwards, and reverse twice.
unidentified		Okay.
		That's one small step for rounds.
		Man will space walk.
		That's one small step for man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and that's so clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's it's extremely clear.
		And that is his that is the thought that he had as he stepped onto the moon.
		Man will continue to walk into space.
unidentified		We will spacewalk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's incredible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely incredible.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And it's a very significant example, too, because Neil Armstrong actually had pre prepared lines.
		He was supposed to say that's one small step for a man.
		And he left out the A and said that's one small step for man instead.
		Now, had he said his lines correct, the speech reversal would not have occurred.
		And part of my theory is that just before we are speaking, the brain re the brain structures the sounds of speech in such a way that these two messages can be communicated simultaneously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me something, David.
		Can you sometimes tell listening?
		Are you trained well enough that you can tell listening in forward speech when a reversal has occurred?
		Are you getting good at that?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, pretty much.
		There's certain key factors where reversals will occur.
		Pauses and stutters, a sudden change in topics, an unusual tonal shift.
		Someone will go up in tone or down in tone.
		It's fairly, you know, once you get to know this phenomenon, it's fairly easy to tell where they can occur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me get this question out of the way, because otherwise a lot of facts paper will get wasted with people trying to ask it.
		Please ask David if he's worked with any other languages other than English.
		If your theory, or David's, holds true about truth versus lies, by listening to reverse speech, it should not be bound by language.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That is quite correct.
		It does occur across the board no matter what language is being spoken in.
		I'm currently training a student from Germany, and she's flown out from Germany just to take my course.
		And what it appears to be is the language in which we are thinking in at the time of speaking is where the reversals occur.
		So if she's speaking in English but thinking in German and translating in her mind, you get a German reversal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my.
unidentified		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And it gets even more complex too because sometimes with split languages you'll get it half in English and half in German.
		She's over in Germany lecturing right now and just getting overwhelming interest.
		And she actually tells me that the German reversals on German-speaking people are actually clearer than the forward speech, which is quite fascinating.
		And I'm waiting for her to come back so I can look at the tapes that she's gathered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is interesting.
		Well, for tonight's visit, we're going to concentrate on English because this is a hard enough concept for a lot of people to grasp, even in English.
		So we'll keep it in English.
		Now, the next thing that I sort of return visit I want to pay is, you determined that children, babies, babies speak in reverse before they speak in forward.
unidentified		That is correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It was one of my very first questions when I wrote my theory back in 1987 was if this is a natural function of language, when does it begin?
Daddy's Reverse Speech 00:15:17
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Are we born with it or does it develop naturally?
		And since then I've done quite a lot of tests on children and it would appear as a reverse language begins between three and four months of age.
		It progresses in the normal forward fashion, like well, forward language will commence 12, 13, 40 months, depending on the child.
		But in reverse, it starts with things, with single words first, mummy, daddy, hungry, help.
		And then between six and seven months of age, they begin to put two words, two or three words together in a sentence.
		And by the time forward speech begins with the simple words, the reverse language has become quite complex.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell the story now of your two little ones.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Which particular story shall I start with?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, your own children.
unidentified		Right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, my children were born in July of 1987.
		And from the moment they came home from hospital, I began to tape them.
		I got quite obsessed with it, quite frankly, and I was taping them constantly.
unidentified		So you were holding a little recorder up in front of their little baby mouths.
unidentified		I was totally and utterly completely doing that, yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And my friend kits as well.
unidentified		What did your wife have to say about that?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can be a bit obsessive at that time.
		And it got annoying.
		But I'm sort of like that.
		Once I get an idea in my head, I can't let it go, I know.
		I'm divorced now, so what can I say?
unidentified		I see.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		But I have custody of my kids, and they live with me now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Believe me, I understand obsessive behavior.
unidentified		Yes, I'm sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So I found from as early as four months, the very first word I heard on my kids was we were at a friend's house playing a game of trivial pursuits, and the kids had been crying for ten minutes or so, and they hadn't been attended to.
		And then there was one particular cry that just prompted our attention.
		And when I later reversed that, it said mummy.
		And that was the very first reverse word I heard on my children.
		And I'm sure a lot of parents listening to your program tonight can remember there's those specific cries from the children that seem to pierce the heart.
		There's one cry that will get your attention, one cry that won't.
unidentified		That's right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I've used this extensively in my practice too, particularly with the suspected molestation cases.
		One of the problems with working with children is what are they really thinking?
		What is really going on inside there?
		What damage has been done?
		And reverse the applications that reverse speech has in child psychology is just endless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, why don't you give us some examples of children?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, we'll start off with the favorite one that you liked last time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stood my hair on end.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		This is when they're seven months of age and I'm running around the room with a tape player and going, you know, talk backwards to daddy, talk backwards to daddy.
		And my daughter suddenly sees this tape player in my hand and she reaches out for it with interest.
		She wants to know what this is.
		And so I'll play forwards first, that particular cry.
unidentified		So here we go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Make that quite a simple baby sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Typical gibberish, right?
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards it says, what's that?
unidentified		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Quite clear.
		What's that?
		And that is exactly how a child would say it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It has the typical baby sound sound to it.
		Let me move on and play another one on kids.
		This is at 13 months of age.
		Let me set this scene up a little bit.
		My daughter was in the bath and she was trying to pick up a cup and she's pushing the cup along and she couldn't pick it up and then she looks up to me, reaches out her hands and says, forwards, daddy, okay?
unidentified		Right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to run, we'll run this forwards first and listen for the sound daddy right at the very end, okay?
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Okay, and that was four.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What I thought I heard was dad, dad, dad.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Right, that was right.
		That was at the beginning, dad, dad, dad.
		And at the, yeah, it's, it, you're quite correct.
		It was an imperfectly formed dad, dad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
unidentified		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, backwards, we don't have any of that dad, Backwards, she says, David, help me.
		A very clear sound.
		And the interesting thing was that the David occurs on the imperfectly formed word dad daddy.
		So what she's actually doing is she's connecting the concepts together.
		Daddy, David, David, Daddy.
		The two are the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
		David, help me.
		And that should have been fairly clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was.
		Oh, God.
		Give it to me again, if you would, at regular speed backwards.
		Oh, man, that's eerie.
		Spooky stuff.
		It's actually ethereal sounding.
		It's almost ghost-like, David.
unidentified		Right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It does have that sense to it.
		It really does, especially when you look at normal, just regular conversations.
		I'll be playing a lot of political stuff on the air, and that's being processed sound.
		So you lose the real magic of the way reversals sound in regular conversation.
		And yeah, they've got this ghost-like quality to it, which is why it's been given this satanic, occultic label to it.
		And it's just a different sound.
		And it almost sounds like an echo sometimes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That is because it's not just one voice speaking.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It is the totality of the human mind speaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's weird.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And the human mind is composed of thousands of different parts.
		I mean, consciousness, consciousness is not one single entity, but it's a combination of the whole.
		And you get this echoey dual-voice sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is not added echo.
		That is the way it comes out.
		And if you doubt that and you've got a computer, just use your own computer and take an example, record my program here or get a recording of it, and take the forward speech and reverse it on your own computer, and they'll end up with the same result, right?
unidentified		Absolutely correct.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's quite easy to tell I'm not doctoring these tapes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Just reverse my forward, just the reverse reversal, and you'll hear the forward soundtrack.
unidentified		That's a very easy test.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is really odd sounding.
		All right.
		Any other questions?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's look at another kid's one.
		This is a little bit older.
		This is in an oddie accent.
		This is maybe a little bit difficult to hear forwards.
		This is that three years of age.
		And They're two kids playing, and one notices that the other one has an inoculation mark on her arm.
unidentified		And she says, Do you have an injection?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, which is Aussie for, I think to use that term here.
unidentified		So here we go forward.
		What do you mean?
		She says, Do you have an injection?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean to make you better?
unidentified		And backwards, it says, I hated them.
		I hated them.
		I hate them. I hate them.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		What you...
unidentified		what?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what you would expect a child to say.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And did you notice that echoey type sound to it once?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I absolutely did.
		An ethereal sort of sound.
		It was really.
		These particular ones, the children, really do stand my hair on end because this is before, well, not in this case, but the earlier case was before forward speech.
unidentified		Absolutely correct.
unidentified		Absolutely.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me play you one more in kids.
		I don't know whether I played this one on your show last week or not, but we'll play it again anyway if I did.
		And this is where I moved one of my children from one room to another.
		And I was setting up the table to record, and I just moved my daughter from the lounge room to the kitchen.
		Okay, so that's the scene.
		And so we'll run it forwards first.
unidentified		Here we go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		OK, now I run it backwards and the reversal says I now come here, you know, from one room to the next.
		And notice the typical sing-song tone.
		This is very typical of reverse speech.
		Right now, come here.
unidentified		And that's quite clear, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's too clear.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And again, the same, the very same sound.
		Now, the audience ought to know: when you're listening to reverse speech, generally you just get a bunch of gibberish that doesn't have that ethereal sound to it.
		And when you stumble into a reversal, there's that ethereal sound.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, let me move on to another one in speech then, okay?
unidentified		Yes, you better hear this one.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm just planning on playing this one, but let's pull it up anyway.
		Oh, I just saw another one.
		I kids like to play you too, but I'm just loading this file up now.
		This is a client.
		This is from a client session, and I need to say that any client sessions I play, I have full permission to play these examples, okay?
		And this is a client of mine who has just finished the entire session process, okay?
		And I'm asking for his reaction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		David, wait.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait, we are at the top of the hour.
		So let us hold this one for the audience that joins us after the top of the hour, okay?
		All right, stay right where you are.
		Do you see what I mean?
		Does this stand your hair up or what?
		Do you understand the implications for the world of what you're hearing right now?
		If not, stick around.
unidentified		You will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		David John Oates is my guest.
		Reverse speech is the topic.
		I'm Art Bell.
unidentified		This is the CBC Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you're doing right now, I suggest you put it aside, turn the volume on the radio up, and concentrate.
		Because I assure you, this will blow your mind.
		My guest is David John Oates.
		He for many years has been developing a technology, actually, it's a technology called reverse speech.
		Now, when you speak forward, you say whatever you say.
		But on occasion, there is what's called reverse speech.
		And briefly put, if you are telling the truth, a reverse speech clip will affirm that truth.
		You'll hear it.
		If you're lying, if you're lying, that will be told in reverse speech.
		It is eerie.
		It is strange.
		It even begins before you can talk in a forward direction.
		You're going to hear more examples of it coming up shortly.
		I know some affiliates have just joined the network at this hour.
		so we'll give you a sort of a little catch up and then move forward
		you played on a series of child search of children how you're at your own children and i guess others Yeah, they were others as well.
		All right, they prompted this question before we move on.
		Would you ask David to comment on this?
		His study of children's backward speech prompted this thought.
		For a long time, I believe that up until the age of two years old, children are still connected with a spiritual or etheric world.
		And about the time the terrible twos hit, they seem to lose that connection with the spiritual plane.
		Have you found any evidence that would support that theory?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Not specifically, no.
		Reversals are very, very simple and basic like they are in forward speech.
		You know, mommy, daddy, hungry, help.
		Metaphors begin at round about 12 months of age, and by metaphors I mean a very large proportion of the language in reverse speech is metaphoric in nature, speaking in pictures and images.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As you get older, does the ethereal sound that we heard begin to change?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You lose the impact of it, yes.
		So if one could consider right brain communication as being spirit communication, then it depends on what you mean by that.
		It's that word, the meaning varies from person to person.
		So yes, the etheric sound that you're hearing in the young children does drop off as they get older.
		Reverse speech is very much a spiritual language, too.
		It speaks extensively about the state of the soul, about our connection with God, our mission in life, and they get stronger as you get older.
Reverse Speech Mirrors 00:05:36
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The children don't talk much about that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And as once they get to the twos and the threes, the word soul and God begins to creep into the reversals.
unidentified		Oh, really?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So what I've found would actually maybe show the opposite of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		To tell, I've never been asked that question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a good one.
		All right, now here's another good one.
		Art, I'm never going to forget giving my nephew a cup of water to drink.
		And I heard him say, hmm, it's good.
		Only problem was he couldn't talk at the time.
		He was only mouthing sounds.
		Can somebody occasionally hear reverse sound?
		It was eerie to have heard the words from a child that wasn't saying more than dada or mama.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Most definitely, yes.
		See, it's been well documented for quite some time that the brain is capable of reversing functions.
		I mean, in one sense, what I'm saying is not out of keeping with accepted theories about how the human mind works.
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Dyslexia, for example, is a condition where in extreme cases they will actually reverse the sounds of words.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I think I asked you about this earlier, David.
		You have a speech impediment.
		Correct.
		How does that affect, and I'm sure you've studied others with speech impediments as well as yourself.
		How does that affect reversals?
		Are there more of them, fewer of them, harder to detect?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		No, when my speech data clicks in, my whole system shuts down.
		And I actually don't have reversals on my speech stutter.
		It's like my whole left and right brain goes into a lock trying to get it out, which is an unusual observation.
		I would have expected to see the opposite.
		But when my natural speech data clicks in, occasionally I'll hear a speech reversal, but not very often.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's move on.
		I know you've got some more.
		You've got another child's example.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		This one is a really, this is a very interesting example.
		One of the things we see in reverse speech is that we'll often get a mirror image.
		The reversal will use exactly the same words as the forwards, but the words will not be a reversal of each other.
		So you get the same words backwards and the same word forwards, but they're not occurring on the same words, if that makes sense.
		And so you get this mirror projection.
		So here is my daughter, actually, at six years of age, and she's just run away from home.
		Well, she just finished running away from home, and I followed her the whole time, and I was watching her.
		We're talking about this forwards, okay?
unidentified		So here we go.
unidentified		Okay, and you can tell from her tone, I never knew that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and so backwards, she says, Daddy never knew.
		In other words, I didn't know that she actually knew I was following her.
		And so when she says, I never knew that, and reverses to daddy never knew, daddy didn't know that I knew.
		So I'm going to run it backwards at three speeds.
		Daddy never knew.
		And then they're going to run it forwards, backwards, forwards, backwards.
		And you'll hear, we've got the same word backwards as we do forwards, but they're not a reversal of each other.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Daddy never knew, it's three feet.
unidentified		Daddy never knew?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my word.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so now I'll run it forward, backwards, forwards, backwards.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, please.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You'll hear this peculiar mirror image effect.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Very common in reverse speech.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I never knew that.
unidentified		I never knew that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So there we have a true mirror image.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, there she is affirming in reverse speech, in essence, what she's saying in forward.
unidentified		Basically correct.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So we have a total mirror image situation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was very, very clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well the i think children of earth without that out dot extremely clear by really well you know and and it i hate to ask you to do this but i did very quickly if you would please uh... go back for this new audience who joined us at one o'clock uh... pacific time and play that one of your child going from one room to another Oh, okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Let me just queue that up on the computer, and while I'm queuing it up, I'll just set it up again.
		I just moved my child from one room to another for the purpose of taping.
		I just set up the table with my microphones.
unidentified		I was going, I was looking for speech reversals.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So I'll run it forward first, and you will hear a typical baby sound forward.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		here we go, there's me, my, my data.
Bill Clinton's Reverse Speech 00:14:21
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's the pronunciation.
		It's just typical sound.
		and backwards at three C's that says, I now come here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's eerie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I wanted them to hear that sort of ethereal, weird sound.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Let's move on now to some new material.
		I know that you are going to be taping the debates.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I also know that you've been taping Bill Clinton for some time now.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I've been taping Bill Clinton for quite some time.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		He's a fascinating character.
unidentified		He really is.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Let me move on to one I found this week, okay?
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		This is Top News.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So he's talking about the Middle East crisis.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Okay?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I'm just loaning this one up now.
		And when you hear these reversals, by the way, you'll hear how in the media they lose that sing-song tone to it because the reversals have been processed.
		And they're actually, I mean, the speech has been processed.
		You're using compressed sound, and you lose the top of the wave.
		The waveform's clicked off.
		And so the reversal has a more of a robotic tone to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So here he is talking about the Middle East crisis.
unidentified		Secretary Christopher has talked with Prime Minister Netanyahu more than once, and we have been in touch several times with Chairman Arafat.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'll play the rest of the three speeches.
		Think carefully about the implications of this reversal.
		What is he really saying?
		Reversal says the loan behind them.
		The loan behind them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Very clear.
unidentified		The loan behind them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Behind them.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Other reversals I found on this whole Middle East situation suggests that there's financial support going towards it.
		Backing both sides, by the way it looks.
		If you listen very carefully what he's saying forwards.
		Maybe I'll run that forwards again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, please, please.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And we'll run it forwards again.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm getting into some of the controversial stuff now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't care.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here we go.
		I'll run it forwards, and I'll just keep it going backwards at three speeds.
		Bear in mind, reverse speech is complementary.
		Whatever you're saying forwards, the reversal relates to that and adds extra information to it or confirms it or denies it.
		So here it is, forwards and backwards.
unidentified		So Secretary Christopher has talked with Prime Minister Netanyahu more than once, and we have been in touch several times with Chairman Arafat.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Backwards again, the loan behind.
unidentified		And behind them.
unidentified		And loan behind them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that could not be more clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		These things are extremely clear.
		They're occurring once every five or ten seconds of speech, and I'm quite frankly stunned that no one's ever found this before.
		You know, it's a common functional language.
		It's there all the time.
		And people have been playing tapes backwards four years.
		You know, it's.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I'm telling you, and I said this last time, and I'm going to say it again now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, some guys in suits are going to come see you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's a topic I would prefer to avoid at this stage.
		Just wanting to get my technology out.
		But I understand what you're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the guys will come see me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, the secret is, the trick is to get this technology out to the public as fast as we possibly can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's the end of secrets.
		It's the end of secrets.
		It's the end of politics.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		This will change the whole status of civilization.
		I mean, our entire political structure is built on the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
		Lies and deceits and cons, and our world has degenerated into such a horrible state.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know it, David, but you know, have you ever been in an encounter group where everybody swears, maybe they don't do it, but for the most part they do, to tell the absolute truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These things end up in fistfights.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely they do.
		Like it or not, the day of truth has now arrived, and we better learn to deal with a fast or the whole world will degenerate into fistfights.
		This is a technology with just monumental ramifications.
		Now, must be honest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's hear some more on Mr. Clinton.
unidentified		Okay, here's Bill Clinton.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The forwards, he's talking about the criticisms he's getting from the Republicans about his policies, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		There's been study after study after study saying that I have either done or worked very hard to do 80% of what I outlined in 1992.
		One book just came out and said it was over 90%.
		One scholar said I'd kept a higher percentage of my commitments in the last five presidents.
		He just had a whole lot of intensive quest questioning.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, he doesn't like the criticism thrown at him because reversal says, I deserve Bob's silence.
		Now, that's very significant.
		He uses the name Bob, Bob Dole.
		It's very common in reverse speech to hear names in reverse.
		And a lot of the work I've done with police, well, some of the work I've done with police have actually had full names of accomplices in crime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I deserve Bob's silence.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I deserve Bob's silence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Deserve Bob's silence.
unidentified		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's fairly clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, it's fairly clear.
		And I could hear that.
		But you know what I noticed about that particular clip is that there were not a lot of high-frequency range in it.
		And I think, I guess I would ask you, does the clipping of the high-frequency range cause you a problem in reversals?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it definitely does.
		Reverse speech is very much a tonal language.
		It comes from the right brain hemisphere, and the right brain hemisphere is very emotional in nature.
		And it's the tonality.
		As the speech becomes more emotionally expressive, as the tonality varies, the reversals get clearer and clearer and clearer.
		And one way for the politicians to actually reduce their reversals is to talk in a very monotone voice.
		And if they use speech processing or speech, you know, or some form of speech processing or scrambling, they could actually reduce reversals down to a bare minimum.
		So there is a way to get out of it.
		But as soon as they get emotional, as soon as they get passionate, they're in big trouble.
unidentified		What do you think you could do with this, David?
unidentified		Oh, I would.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That sounds spookier than reverse speech, you know?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a masking device, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, which I have a lot of people.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That will tend to reduce reversals down.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there's another one on Bill Clinton.
unidentified		This is Bill Clinton.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		He's in a fairly intensive interview, and you'll hear his voice crack now.
		He's been accused of immoral acts and dishonest.
		And he gets emotional now, okay?
		It almost sounds like he's on the verge of tears.
		No, yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		There still has not been a single solitary sword of evidence of anything dishonest that I have done in my public life.
		Not only his governor, not only his governor, and his president.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards, he says, denied the habits, and I said, damn you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Denied the habits, and I said, damn ya.
unidentified		Denied the habits, and I said, damn ya.
		Whoa!
		Denied the habits, and I said, damn ya.
		And I said, damn ya.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Be clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you what.
		That was most easily heard at the regular speed reverse.
		Hit that one again.
unidentified		Okay, let's just back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Regular speed reverse.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, regular speed reverse.
unidentified		No, the habits, and I said, done yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see, that was quite clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Right, and let me do it one more time, a regular speech.
unidentified		You know if they have it, then I'll take it, don't you?
unidentified		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting reversal because he says, deny the habits.
		The implication is, well, the habits are there, and I'm getting quite aggressive about this.
		You know, leave me alone, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you say that President Clinton is fertile, reverse speech ground?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		He's incredible.
		I've got hundreds of examples on Bill Clinton.
		He's a very complex character.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he is indeed.
		David, we're at the bottom of the hour.
		Frank out some more of the best of Bill Clinton, and we'll do that when we come back.
		Would you please ask David to explain to us where we can get the equipment to play tapes backwards?
		What do we ask for?
unidentified		How do we do it?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You need to call my office at 619-732-3097.
		We're currently out of stock, but we have a backload of orders.
		We'll have new stock in two or three weeks.
		They need to call in now and pre-order them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me the number again, please.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		619-732-3097.
		And while I'm about it, let's give a number to buy my book.
		My book will be out in two weeks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is the name of your book?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's Reverse Speech Voices from the Unconscious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reverse Speech, Voices from the Unconscious.
unidentified		How much is your book?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It comes with an all-fiercassette tape, and it's selling for $27.95.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		$27.95.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		With the tape included.
		There's also a four-tape series that you can buy separate to that that's full of reversals of politicians and celebrities, media, news, etc.
		And you can buy all of this from my publisher.
		So let me give you that number.
		This is only for the book and the tape.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, who is your publisher?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's a promotion publication in San Diego, California.
		And the number is 1-800-231-1776.
		That's 1-800-231-1776.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure your publisher is not unhappy about all the attention suddenly.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		My publisher is extremely happy.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		He was telling me this week he has never pre-sold as many books as he has prior to release as he has with this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can see why.
		Clearly, I can see why.
		All right, back to our friend Bill Clinton.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Bill Clinton.
		Well, you know, let me start off with a light example first.
		I don't want to get myself into too much trouble here, okay?
		And I'm going to do a small clip from his inauguration first.
		And this is actually not Bill speaking.
		This is someone announcing the inauguration.
		I want you to notice very carefully about how he talks about the outgoing President George Bush.
unidentified		The nation bid a gracious goodbye to an outgoing administration.
unidentified		And warmly welcome in a new one as William Jefferson Clinton takes office as the 42nd President of the United States.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I just want to run one more clip of that forwards again.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Listen to the eloquent way he's saying goodbye to George Bush.
unidentified		A gracious goodbye to an outgoing administration.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards, he says, you're fired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		You're fired.
		Let me run that forwards and backwards again, okay?
		Yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I've got a little bit of processing on this one.
		This is the only example you'll hear.
		Well, it's not really processing.
		I've just got some echo on the reverse.
		This one is hilarious.
unidentified		Forwards and backwards.
unidentified		Today, our relations is a gracious goodbye to an outgoing administration.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Most people would agree.
		That's really what happened to the Bush administration.
		It wasn't so much that Clinton was elected.
		It was the fact that George Bush was fired.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's absolutely true.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the incoming administration, that was almost like the Neil Armstrong one small step.
unidentified		Absolutely correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I've got, listen, you know, I've got things that the Jay Lenner show and Saturday Night Live would eat up.
		These things are so hilarious sometimes.
		They have you rolling in the aisles.
		So we're back onto Bill Clinton again, okay?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then we will give equal time.
		We've got Bob Dole here somewhere, I'm sure.
		Yes, right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I'll do two more on Clinton and then we'll move on to Bob Dole.
unidentified		I'll do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, I need to stress, you know, it's the America's popular, well, actually, the world's popular pastime to knock out polls, petitions.
		And there's certainly reversals on Bill Clinton that do call for some serious questioning.
		But he's not all that bad.
		In point of fact, I've noticed in the last year, his reversals have shifted.
Forward vs. Reverse Speech 00:09:34
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And he's actually got a fair bit of passion for his job now, which really wasn't there when he first came into office.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So I want to present the good side as well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The good side of Bill Clinton.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here he is.
		Here he is talking about America.
		I think I want to play this one last time, but this is talk about an American plane that was shot down over Cuba.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		All charter air travel from the United States to Cuba will be suspended indefinitely.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards he says, denounce this evil.
unidentified		Denounce this evil.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, clearly, clearly, David, clearly, he really meant that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		He really meant that.
		Yes, he really did.
		He really did.
		And there is, you know, Bill Clinton is, some parts of him are extremely congruent.
unidentified		You know, he really does care for the police.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Now, here he is on the election campaign trail.
		I think this was this week or last week as well.
		I've been doing a lot of recordings lately.
		And he's stirring up the crowd, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		My vision today is what it was four years ago.
unidentified		I want the American dream of opportunity for all.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I want the American dream of opportunity for all.
		And backwards, he says, I can see your soul.
		The vessel says, I can see your soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		Oh, I can see your soul.
		Oh, I can see your soul.
		Or can see your soul.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was, you know, the regular speed reverse was the best.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, do you want me to run that back at Reg again?
		Please.
		You know what it is, Articour?
		You're getting an ear for it, too.
		I mean, you've heard this for two hours the previous week, and now we're on to our second hour now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I find, you know, when I first run these to people, they don't hear them the first time, and I've got to slow them down.
		But once you get an ear for them, you normally can hear them for a shot.
		You know, I can run a tape backwards now, and I can pull out the reversal just as like, like, like it was forwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		But it takes new students a while to get to that stage.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So let me run that again at normal speech.
unidentified		Please.
		Oh, I can see your soul.
		There we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no doubt about it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can see your soul.
unidentified		Okay, so let's move.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's only fair to give equal time here.
		So let's move on to Bob Dole.
		And after that, I want to look at, I want to play a reversal on Robert Tilton, the infamous evangelist from Dallas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, oh, yes, all right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So because no one escapes the scrutiny of reverse speech.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so we're going to do two or three.
unidentified		Let's do that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I've got about four reversals here in a row on Dole.
		The first one is a very congruent reversal.
		I think I played this last week.
		This is when he resigns from the Senate.
		That's right.
		Yeah, and you can hear the passion in his voice forward.
unidentified		You do not lay claim to the office you hold.
		It lays claim to you.
		Your obligation is to bring to it the gifts you can of labor and honesty, and then to depart with great.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And he's speaking quite genuine forwards, as the speech reversal says.
unidentified		and honor it's an honor it's an honor that That was clear at any speed.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That one's very clear, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that was the moment when he was resigning from the Senate, and you know that was heartfelt.
		That happened.
		However, it was all his life's work.
		Absolutely.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now the next one, he's talking about some of the bad press he's getting.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You know, talking about he didn't get particularly good press at one stage, and well, some people might say he's still not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's had a rough go of it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he really has.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And so here he is forward saying, you know, this doesn't bother me because now I can move forward.
unidentified		Okay?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
unidentified		The press does not lean our way.
		And many Beltway pundits confidently dismiss my chances addicted.
		I do not find this disheartening.
		I do not find it discouraging.
		But this is where I touch the ground.
		Okay.
		Now, backwards, we hear a slightly different story.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And he says in reverse, those jerks have they now finally done him.
unidentified		Here we go.
		Three speech.
		The jerks have been out, down red on you.
		The jerks have been out, down red on you.
		The jerks have been up, down red on you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And that's quite good, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Revealing how he really feels about this.
unidentified		That's how he wrote it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Actually, let's play that one again.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Forwards, the forwards, the forwards and backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And notice the complementarity.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I want to stress the actual theory of reverse speech, which is the forwards and the reverse directly relate to each other.
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Here is forwards and backwards.
unidentified		The press does not lean our way.
		And many Beltway pundits confidently dismiss my chances of victory.
		I do not find this disheartening.
		I do not find it discouraging.
		But this is where I touch the ground.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, backward?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me ask you a question.
		Yes.
		The forward portion of that speech that you played was in actual length of time quite a bit longer than the reverse portion.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so what actual portion did you if you were to give me only the equivalent amount forward and the equivalent amount backward?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what I'm doing now is I'm actually on my computer, I'm reversing the entire track.
		Okay, so I'll run the whole track, but it takes a little bit of time for my convention to process this.
		And you'll actually hear the reversal amongst the gibberish.
		See, when I play these for air, I've actually isolated the reversal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		I isolated the reversal.
		I wanted that to be clear to the audience because they're sitting out there saying, now, wait a minute, the reversal is very short compared to the forward.
unidentified		Correct, correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I played the entire forward so you can get the context.
		And my computer's still reversing this track.
		It's one of the reasons why computers are a little bit difficult to find.
		I mean, you can find them quite easily, but they're very time-consuming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So it's still clicking over here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, David, do you generally do your reversal work with a reverse tape recorder and then go to computer?
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I find all my examples on tape first, and then I transfer them to computer for public play.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what I used to do when I did my lectures and radio interviews a few years ago, before I had the luxury of computers, I had them all in separate tapes, and I'd have all these 50 or 60 tapes, and it was very time-consuming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then the advent of the computer, particularly the faster computers, was important for you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, extremely important.
		It streamlined my entire operation down, and now it's just a matter of ringing up a WAV file.
		It makes my presentations a lot smoother.
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So here we go.
		I'll play this whole soundtrack backwards.
		All right.
unidentified		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And you'll hear the reversal mixed in amongst the gibberish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it he says again?
unidentified		My air gets touched down with the thin.
		Joshua sit now.
		Just get to the smash down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that was very clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I caught it very easily.
unidentified		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I keep on saying, time and time again, I'm amazed people haven't found this stuff before.
		And actually, let me run that backwards again, and notice the slight pause in the gibrish.
		There's a break in the gibbrish just before the reversal occurs.
		There's a break after.
		And you'll hear how the gibberish has this monotone sound, and then the reversal has this completely different tone.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay, so run it back again.
		My air gets touched down with it.
		Joshua said now it's down to down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was very clear.
		And you're right.
		There was a pause, and then there it was.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you did that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And that's normally how they appear.
		So, you know, if you ever, if you listen to your favorite politician and you hear that characteristic pause, you know that there's a reversal being delivered right there.
		And now my computer's locked up again while I'm reversing the file back again, so I won't play it forward backwards next time I bring this example up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I probably have some more Bob Dole.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		We need to get Bob Dipper.
		I'm in a little bit of a lock mode right now while it's reprocessing the sound.
		So for the affiliates who've joined in, let me just restate my theory once again while we're waiting for my computer to get ready.
		My entire theory is that the process of spoken communication is twofold.
		As the human brain is constructing the sounds of speech, it's constructing it in such a way that two messages are communicated simultaneously.
Reverse Speech Revelation 00:03:44
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		One is forward, which is as you're hearing me speak now, and the other one is in reverse from the unconscious mind.
		Now, this is actually a communication process.
		We are all receiving the reversals from others all the time, and we normally recognize these messages as intuition, that gut sense or feeling that there's more going on than what meets the eye.
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here, and I'm just letting up another example now, and this is Bob Dole commenting on Bill Clinton's tax policy.
unidentified		Now, we have a Republican Congress, and we had a president who vetoed balanced budget and submitted budgets, but that's as far as the eye can see.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards, he says, the guy's off his head, which is probably how a lot of people feel.
unidentified		And the guy's off his head.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And if you want me to, I can reverse this track, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I bet that's exactly how he feels, too.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that's exactly how he feels.
		Let me just run another one on Dole with similar sentiments to that.
		It's actually from the same speech.
unidentified		So he's got these things running.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And we're loading it up now.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And here we are forward.
unidentified		Bill Clinton says that he and his party, and I use a quote, he said, we are unawarely opposed to our tax relief program.
		Frankly, I didn't think there was such a thing as a Clinton position that couldn't be altered.
		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That was, he says, he needs his lesson real good.
unidentified		He needs his lesson there, but he needs his ass and their foot.
unidentified		He needs his lesson, they're foot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He needs his lesson real good.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't reverse speech at a whole different field of politics.
		It really does.
		For the first time ever, the people now have a way to find out what our politicians are really thinking.
		No need for expensive lie detectors anymore that we don't have access to.
		It's just simply a matter of running a tape backwards.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		David, there are some people that can beat lie detectors because they are congenital liars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, they almost probably believe their own lies.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, Bill Clinton has been accused of being that kind of a person, or the kind of a person who will say to the people exactly what they want to hear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And at the moment he says it, he believes it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You cannot escape reverse speech.
		Reverse speech is completely unconscious.
		No matter if you even believe your own lies, reversal will communicate the truth.
		You see, the lies are just coming from the conscious mind, and that's only 5% of the human mind.
		And the 95% that we don't have access to is what is speaking in reverse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're going to get you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, in my 13 years of work, I've never ever found that someone can trick or deceive reverse speech.
Reversing Lies 00:12:58
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I tried myself many times.
		I've tried to lie as congruently as I can.
		I put myself into hypnotic trance and completely programmed my mind to believe what I'm saying.
unidentified		You cannot deceive reverse speech.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you, at the time you're saying it, believe it yourself.
		And again, I use the example of somebody who can beat a lie detector.
		If you believe it yourself, isn't it going to come out affirming what you've said?
		Or are you telling me no matter what?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		No matter what, no matter what, no matter what, you will get the truth in reverse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's terribly dangerous, David.
		Dangerous.
		Dangerous.
		I mean, if the world is going to have to begin telling the truth or be subject to David John Oates revealing what the truth is.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, not just David John Oates, but all the people out there now who now know that this is real.
unidentified		It's not just me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm putting the message out for everyone.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You know, now, obviously, I'm a fan of the technology, but this technology is available for all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but this would be the end of politics as we know it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It will be the end of a lot of things as we know it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You know, a lot of end time prophecies talk about the last days coming, a monumental shockwave.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll get to that.
		Stay right where you are.
		Rest, we'll be right back.
		This is CBC.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Stay right there.
unidentified		This is the CBC Radio Network.
		All right, now let's plow some new territory.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And oh, I know.
		I know.
		Give us a few, if you wouldn't mind, a few O.J. Simpsons.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, okay.
		You know what?
		I'm going to slight problem with OJ.
		Well, no, not on Ray Geo Don't.
		I've actually signed an exclusive television broadcast agreement for OJ Simpson.
		Okay, well, shortly.
		But no, let me, but that's only for television.
		So let me just play a couple.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay, good.
unidentified		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Right, the first one I'm playing, I want you to listen very carefully to what he's saying forward.
		Now, in light of the implications of reverse speech, that from now on, all we have to do to find out what someone is thinking and feeling is to run a tape recording of speech backwards.
		I want to listen very carefully to what OJ is saying forward.
unidentified		The worst thing you can have that you could ever have is have your argument tape.
		I would say anybody out there that's married and is in a relationship, just put a tape recorder on the next time you have an argument and play it back.
		You will not believe that was you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I just want to isolate one section forwards again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Turn a tape recorder on the next time you have an argument and play it back.
unidentified		You will not believe that was you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards, he says, I skinned them all.
unidentified		And I skinned them all.
		I skinned them all.
		I skimmed them all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I skinned them all.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And that's OJ.
		Just turn a tape recorder on next time because the truth that we all speak is embedded backwards into the sounds of our speech.
		It's actually a very ironic example because the unconscious mind already knowing that reverse speech exists and has always existed has effectively set OJ OJ up, if that makes sense.
unidentified		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Let's look at one more on OJ.
		One of the implications of reverse speech is that is that everything that is contained with the within the unconscious mind has the ability to appear in reverse.
		And so when you are relaying an event that happened to you in the past, and if you relay this event in a false manner, in other words, you say something different happened to what actually did happen, the reversal will correct your story.
		So in light of that, OJ's talking forwards about he's claiming he's a very understanding, compassionate man.
		Okay?
		Here we go forward.
unidentified		Turn a tape recorder on.
unidentified		The next time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, run one.
unidentified		And tomorrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		When she had some very emotional issues with the men that she was involved with, she came to me.
unidentified		I don't think a woman would do that if she felt that this person was insensitive or abusive and certainly not jealous or possessed.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards we hear what he really said to her, which is, damn your lust, never see lovers.
		And once again, notice the tone of the reversal.
		It has that peculiar sing-song sound to it.
		Damn your lust, never see lovers.
unidentified		Tamilus, never see Baldwin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, that's clear.
unidentified		Tabulus, never see lovers.
		Travelers, never see lovers.
		There we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My ear must be getting a tune because the normal speed reversal sounds the clearest to me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Do you want me to run that again at normal speed?
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me just cue this up.
		And yes, that's quite correct.
		You're getting used to it now.
		It takes a few hours of hearing these things to get used to.
unidentified		Plus, the fact you've been a ham radio for years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So you're used to listening to audio and particularly this curious sound, which sounds very similar to single sideband transmission.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I'll tell you something, David.
		I'm getting a lot of faxes here, and I'm not the only one hearing it clearly.
		Every fax I'm getting is just saying terrific.
		I can hear it clearly, blah, blah, blah, on and on.
		So I'm not the only one.
unidentified		Okay, well, okay, great.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
		Okay, so here we go.
		I'll just run it forward.
		There we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was just as clear as can be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Damn your lust, never see lovers.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I better not play anymore on AJ.
		I've signed an exclusive contract for the OJ reversals, and that's with Extra Television airing on October the 30th.
		If you want to, which, by the way, is my birthday.
unidentified		Oh.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		So that's a very significant date.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Happy birthday.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm going to just let you wander now where you want to go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And just give us examples of whatever you've got.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's hundreds of them, thousands.
		Let's move on to Robert Tilton.
		I had this one queued up three or four times to play, and we've moved away from it.
		Robert Tilton, we're very well-known TV evangelists.
		I've got to tell you, teleevangelists do not come off very well in reverse speech.
unidentified		They really don't.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And reverse speech has got a big message to say to the whole religious community.
		And this also addresses your question about if someone really believes what they're saying, will the reversals confirm that?
		Will they lie?
		And no, they will not.
		No matter how fervently you believe in something forwards, the backwards is always the truth.
		So I've got two reversals on Robert Tilton.
		Here he is forwards first.
unidentified		Come on, people.
		Give me a little break.
		You make the decision if you're going to listen or repeat the lies of the devil, or you're going to buckle under and stay with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you know, all right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there he is, forwards and backwards, he says, I'm selling your grief.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'll still run it at three speeds because you've got some new affiliates joined us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, I'm selling your grief.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm selling your grief.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let her rip.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what TV evangelists do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		Unsealing, I agree.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And here we have another one on Robert Tilton, and this occurred about two minutes later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		We're just going to keep on.
		We're going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
		To be big, but just to help and reach more people.
		JC, is the bank and the FBI investigating that impauling?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		A very loyal heartfelt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I kind of like that forward, actually.
unidentified		Yeah, I know, it's classic.
unidentified		And backwards, he says, keep on stealing it.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I have sinned.
unidentified		I'm going to be a problem here and if I had to take them.
		Ho, ho, ho.
		Be a problem here and if I had to take them.
		Beef room sneer and it went.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Keep on stealing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have sinned.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Exactly correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you know, David, you know, some of the things that you're playing probably could get you into trouble, except that they are not manipulated.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're simply playing that person's speech in reverse.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		All I'm doing is quoting what they have said.
		You know, I'm not altering this.
		I'm not manipulating this.
		This is using their own words, forwards and backwards.
		And this will be the trend of the future.
		Let us examine forward and reverse.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here's a question for you that goes with what we just did.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Art, asked David if he ever tried this on someone speaking in tongues like the Pentecostals do.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
		I did quite a lot of work on a door about 10 years ago recording speaking tongues, or glossal alia is the correct term for it.
		It has the same type of reversals as normal forward speech.
		I've found reversals that praise God.
		I've found reversals that say I'm possessed by Satan.
		And I've found reversals that talk about the roast in the oven waiting for him after the church service.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you actually have one that you can pick out when the break comes here that says, I am possessed by Satan?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		You know what?
		I don't have speaking tongues on my computer, but I can, sure.
		I'll have to go to my other system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or do you have any that deal with Satan in general?
unidentified		Sure.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Let me go and chain systems here, okay?
unidentified		There's two computers here.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		One, there's a laptop I use for public air, and then all my main ones are stored on my main.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For a big hard drive, I understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, we've got a break here.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to swap systems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sit tight, and we'll be right back.
		Oh, my.
		Isn't this something?
		Okay, we're going to break here and let stations do whatever they do at the bottom of the hour.
		I'm Arn Bell.
		You're listening to David John Oates and the phenomenon, the reality of reverse speech.
		Don't move.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		And the greater...
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		When I'm training my new students, most students cannot hear metaphors for at least six months.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It takes a long time to train your ears.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then imagine what we can't hear.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		You asked me a question about Satan and I went straight into my deep research.
		Okay, so let's do this again.
		See the wolf fallen in the lake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Wolf is a metaphor for our motivation, our hunter and protector.
		Lake is a metaphor for overwhelming emotions.
		So the reversal is describing a man who is drowning a sea of emotions and it's stifling his ability to move forward.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here's another client talking about wolf.
		And this is all in the same file, so I'm playing it to you together.
		And this man has finished session work with me.
		He's gone through all the trances, and he's talked about a new direction he has in his life.
		So I'll run it forward, first.
unidentified		This is the information program that I've got in my mind.
		I mean, I can see it.
		I can actually see it working.
		You know, and all the things that I read say that it deserves to be the wolf.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, can you hear that one okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And Batlessy says, I've got a new wolf with with in me.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I've got a new wolf within me.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Clear.
Backwards Speech Reversals 00:09:51
unidentified		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, I could hear that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, good.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I moved into metaphors far too fast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's quite all right.
unidentified		I'll tell you what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let us move back to people that we know in the public arena because people can identify with voices that they know.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's look at a voice that everyone there should know, and this is you speaking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Me?
unidentified		You.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We just ran out of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, go ahead.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this is right at the start of my when I had my first interview with you a couple of weeks, weeks ago, and you're explaining the primitive mode I'm using.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm holding a speaker up to the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, so that we all get some understanding of what we're talking about.
unidentified		It's going to be a crude way of doing it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to hold the phone up to a recorder, but I listened earlier and it came through.
unidentified		Okay.
		Yep.
		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And the reversal says an answer, no mistake, divorce error.
		It's a simple metaphor, and answer, no mistake, divorce error.
		And it's a reflection of your desire to want this to go very, very smoothly.
		I don't want any mistakes here.
		Okay, holding the speaker up the phone will be a solution, but make sure you do this correctly, Dave.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
		Okay, here we go.
		And answer no mistake, make divorce, be error.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		in a true normal state it's true normal state that was i heard that I heard the particularly clear was the word divorce.
unidentified		Yes, correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An error.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and here's another one on you.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		This is actually you and me having a conversation, okay?
unidentified		All right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Talking about the O.J. Simpson reversal.
unidentified		Here we go.
		My fondest dreams is to see A.J. face to face and play him these speech reversals and just see what his reaction is.
		I would love to do that.
		I would love to see that.
		Yeah, I think that would be quite an amazing TV special.
		Yes, well, he's busy now, he's going back to court again.
		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there we have a little quick chat.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I want to play a small snippet on me again first.
unidentified		My fondest dreams is to see A.J. face to face and play him the speech reversal.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and backwards, I say, gives him the ultimate.
		I'm actually talking to myself.
		I'm actually using myself in a third person, but gives him the ultimate.
		That is my fondest dream, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Here it is.
		It isn't the altitude.
		Oh.
		It feels me the altitude.
		You give me the altitude.
		Oh.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And that's fairly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was very clear.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that was very clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And here's you commenting on O.J., here's the next forwards track on you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's busy now.
unidentified		He's going back to court again.
unidentified		Yeah.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And when you say he's going back to court again, you say it backwards, may get off.
		I may get off.
		Oh, my God.
		And that one's quite clear.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's too clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Ooh.
		Ooh.
		Yeah.
		So how does it feel hearing your own speech reversal?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gives me the GB Heebies.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it normally does when uh people here hear their own stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh my, yeah.
unidentified		Um I'm I'm ooh, I don't know if I like that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		What was your thoughts as you heard that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um being stripped bare.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah, that's a very common feedback 'cause that's what that is what reverse speech does.
		And one of the one of the great testers of reverse speech is for people to hear their own reversals 'cause what you're hearing is the voice of your heart speak speaking and it goes straight to your heart.
		And it it creates uh it creates a very interesting effect.
		Um one of the um I've worked with a couple of attorneys uh in uh their positions with with reverse speech and one of the and when I have someone speech reversals, I've developed a technique called reversal feedback where I build into the conversation people's speech reversals.
		And if I want to break someone down, all I need to do is say their reversals back to them and if I can do it in such a way to build it in their conversation into my speech, then that has a powerful effect.
		And there was the one case I worked on with an attorney and we were trying to break someone down and she just did three minutes of reversal feedback saying the own guy's reversals back to him and he absolutely freaked out.
		He got totally angry and angry and upset and tore the microphone off and stormed out of the interrogation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I can believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you could end up being a consultant to really either side in a court case.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Totally correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the power of this is absolutely awesome.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		This is a way to break anyone down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can see that clearly and you were very kind to me.
		All right, brothers, stay right where you are.
		We'll be back to you in a moment.
unidentified		This is CDC.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Quite clear.
		And let me run it backwards again.
		And this time I've actually spliced the soundtrack and inserted the speech reversal.
		And you'll actually hear me finish my uncompleted sentence.
		And your R, before I had a chance to complete it, she chips in and responds because she's actually responding to the speech reversal.
unidentified		Here we go.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		How old are you missing?
unidentified		I was 17.
unidentified		And you're 48.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		That's quite, I think that's quite a stunning example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It explains the whole communication aspect of reverse speech.
		Here's another one of a very simple nature.
		I just like to lead into these slowly.
		I mean, this is such a complex technology.
		You can't even begin to imagine how far this goes.
		It explains so many aspects of human intuition.
		ESP, extrasensory perception.
		On its deepest levels, it actually describes how ESP occurs over long periods.
		Where someone in England can hear what someone is thinking in the United States.
		You see, reverse speech contains the totality of the collective unconscious.
		All secrets, all human talents, all human abilities are buried down in the deep unconscious mind.
		And reverse speech explains all of these functions, how they all work.
		It it literally it the implications on society are just vast.
		But um let's go to um let's go to a simple one.
		We'll we'll start slowly.
		This is um this is another one like uh like how old.
		This is an interview on Australian television, and it's the man who was suspected of sending his wife a threatening letter.
unidentified		Here we go forward.
		Well, she says it was in your handwriting.
		Well, then, she should produce that letter unless that's all.
		Have you seen the letter?
		Yes, I have.
		Good to see it?
		Yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, then she should produce that letter.
		Do you want to see it?
unidentified		That was clear, yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It's a fairly simple conversation.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I want to isolate a small section forward.
unidentified		Have you seen the letter?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And backwards, he says, I want to see that letter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I heard that.
unidentified		I want to see you all of us, right?
		Clear.
		Quite clear.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And once again, we'll run the conversation forwards with the reversals superimposed.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And you'll actually hear how the reporter responds to what he said backwards rather than what he said forward.
unidentified		Well, she says it was in your handwriting.
		Well, then, she should produce that letter unless that saddle.
		Have you seen the letter?
		Yes, I have.
		Good to see you.
		Yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And you can see what happened there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, quite clearly.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she responds to the letter.
		And I'm sure you've had many occasions happen to you where you've been about to say something or you're thinking something, and before you have a chance to say it, the response comes.
		The response comes.
		And they are receiving and responding to the speech reversals.
		Just an incredible phenomenon, you know.
		I'm constantly amazed that the world hasn't beaten the path through my door yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is now going to.
		I'm just trying to digest what it's going to mean.
		For example, I would think that there would be entire departments within the government listening to the speech of foreign leaders and putting together intelligence estimates based on the reverse speech.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
		There's no doubt in my mind that that can happen.
		The implications are phenomenal.
		It's phenomenal.
Implications Of Reverse Speech 00:03:35
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It is a significant discovery, probably more so than the telephone or the world is round or the automobile.
		I mean, and to some extent, we've been expecting this for decades, for centuries.
		We've been expecting a major monumental event to happen towards the end of the 20th century.
		You know, many philosophers and prophets have talked about it happening.
		I believe without any shadow of a doubt that it is the coming of reverse speech.
		It is the opening of the unconscious mind.
		It is the day of truth, where we now have no choice to be honest.
		The truth is now available for all to hear.
		And the implications are endless.
		Totally endless.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you get any hints about the end times in any reverse speech?
unidentified		Yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		How far do you want me to go?
		Once again, I mean, you know, this is a radio program.
		It's not in radio.
		Sure.
unidentified		A lot of prophecies.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The difficulty with interpreting prophecies has been trying to understand what these images mean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, again, we move into metaphors, no doubt.
unidentified		Correct.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Now, the wonderful advantage with reverse speech over any other form of discipline in trying to understand metaphors is that we have a reference point to go back to.
unidentified		The reference point is the forward dialogue.
unidentified		Yes, of course.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I have compiled an extensive metaphoric dictionary.
		It contains well over a thousand different metaphors.
		And in reverse speech, the metaphors are constant.
		Reverse speech is a universal language, constant across the board.
		And by going back to the forward dialogue, I have been able to determine with great accuracy what these maretophores mean.
		I mean, every time you hear the word wolf forward, backwards, someone's talking about motivation or protection forward.
		The metaphor goddess talks every time someone mentions that backwards, they're talking about hope for the future.
		And so when you look at the metaphors of reverse, when you look at some of the great prophecies, like, well, let's look at Nostradamus, for example.
		Nostradamus himself said that his insights and vision came from the voice in limbo, to use his exact words.
		And I believe that is reverse speech, the voice of the unconscious.
		And when you go back to Nostradamus' prophecies and reread them in the light of the meaning of reverse speech metaphors, and I'm going to release my dictionary in about two or three months, they all of a sudden make a whole bunch of sense.
		It actually reads with great precision from beginning to end.
		He talks about the last time the beast known to man suddenly the man will hear the voice of the beast, which that's not a direct quote.
		I haven't come prepared to lecture on prophecy tonight, but I believe that refers to the metaphors of the unconscious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		David, are you comfortable with the impact this is going to have on our society?
Wives Sorry, Husbands Sense 00:03:10
unidentified		Boy, what a question.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've wrestled.
		It's been one of the reasons why I waited so long to release it.
		It really has.
		I've gone through great conscious wrestlings over this, and I've hesitated so long to release this information.
		But ultimately, I just have to accept that I am a messenger.
		This is a discovery that has been made that must be heard.
		I think it's a greater crime of mine to not release it than it is to release it.
		If I believe that this is what mankind has been waiting for, if I believe that it has the implications, it has, then I'm committing a greater crime by not putting it out there.
unidentified		Does that make sense?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Husbands recording wives.
unidentified		Sorry?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wives recording husbands.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
unidentified		Completely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Employers recording employees.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The ethical problems are vast.
		I don't pretend to have the answer to that.
		I mean, I really don't.
		I can see Congress and law courts going berserk over.
		The ethical problems are just endless.
		I have a fairly strict code of ethics in my training class for my students.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Attorneys using it to break down witnesses on the stand, as you talked about earlier.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		All you have to do is read them a half a dozen key reversals.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'll break somebody down.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it will.
		I see it in my office every single day.
		That's one of the reasons I have such great success with therapy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very sobering is what it is.
		David, hold on.
		And when we come back, I want to let the audience ask you a few questions.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I think that's probably very appropriate.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think it is too.
		Say right there.
		David John Oates is my guest.
		Show kind of presence to them.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you know them when you hear them.
		And my ear has become at least attuned enough to begin to recognize that.
		It is absolutely fascinating.
		This is clearly a field by itself.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't fit into any field currently known.
unidentified		It's a whole new industry, a completely new technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with David John Oates.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Here's this is Kevin from Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Kevin.
unidentified		Hi.
		And I've got a couple of questions for you, Mr. Oates.
		Yes.
		Evident, first, I was wondering how did this technology come about?
		And also, do you think that someday you'll find them on radios like you would CD players and all?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, the technology I've slowly and gradually developed it over the last 13 years.
Accidental Discovery 00:03:07
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I need to say that reverse speech is a natural function of the mind.
		So I really have discovered something that has always been in existence.
		And it was really an accidental discovery.
		Really, I was running a halfware house for street kids and we heard about satanic messages in rock and roll and it began from there.
		But it's been my whole research has been defining this technology.
		How does it work?
		What happens?
		The various relationships between the forwards and reverse dialogues, etc., etc., etc.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, most of the great discoveries have been accidental.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Right, it's true.
		It is true.
		And actually, listen, on that note, let me tell you, let me let the cat out of the bag and tell you a very story that I only tell in my training class.
		I talk about I went home that night to rewire a tape player to play it backwards to check the record.
		But what I don't tell anyone is that the tape player that played backward was already in existence.
		I had a Warpman strapped to my belt a few months earlier, and I was in the bathroom being silly, and it fell, and it fell out of my belt right into the toilet bowl.
		And I pulled the thing out of the toilet bowl, and it didn't work.
		And I pulled it apart and tried to fix it up, and somehow I rewired it backwards.
		And I thought I had this useless Walkman, and I threw it in the junk drawer.
		And when the vandist came around preaching, I said, oh, I've got my backwards playing Walpman that fell in the toilet bowl.
		And that actually Waltman is, I have that Warpman now framed in my office.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would think reversing the wires to the motor.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I actually know was that actually causes mechanical problems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Does it?
unidentified		Okay.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The way you normally do it is with it was actually an auto-reverse player.
		And when you reverse the motor, it changes the heads.
		The motor's reverse, and it switches the heads from the top to the bottom.
		And when I tried to fix this thing up, I accidentally pushed the switch in the other direction.
		So it worked backwards.
		And so it really was an incident how it did happen.
		I don't tell that story publicly very often, but I will birth.
unidentified		I just have.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you sure did.
		All right.
		Back to the phones.
unidentified		East of the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air with David John Oates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, this is Tim in Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		Hi.
		I'm leaning towards believing this.
		Here's the hurdle I have.
		I believe the power suggestion can be a factor in this.
		And I was wondering what steps have you taken to bypass it.
Caller's Perspective 00:04:28
unidentified		There would be a number of ways you could do that.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've done several blind tests, you know, where I will play soundtracks to people without telling them what is there.
		I also frequently use control phrases.
		I tell people to hear something that is not there.
		But the real test, of course, is when I train students in this.
		The students, you know, I'll have 30 students who'll go away and analyze the same tape, and they will come back with identical reversals.
		Now, if this was imagination or your suggestion, then there's no way that 30 people can analyze the same tape separately and come back with the same transcript.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, Caller, I'm kind of like you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm leaning toward believing this.
unidentified		After what he just said, like I said, that was a hurdle I was trying to get over there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And once you start to begin to believe this, you're given real pause and you begin to sit there and think, oh, God, what does this mean?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what it means is really serious.
unidentified		Very serious.
		Yeah, I kind of feel a little scared with that, but I think it's a good thing.
		You know, I'm poor truth.
		I think overall it's better.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And look, I understand skepticism, too.
		I mean, it took me many years to fully grasp it myself.
		I'm just basically, I'm a typical Ozi from the Outback, you know, and I'm as skeptical as everyone else.
		And I suddenly found myself in this whole new field, you know, and I'm going, oh, my gosh, what on earth does this mean?
		And it took me, it took me many years to really own it and grasp it and say, oh, my gosh, this really is real.
unidentified		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, David, but still, I'm not up there with you just yet.
		I'm still knowing that if you get a room full of people who are bound and promise to tell each other the truth, more times than not, it ends up in a great big fistfight.
		Yes.
		And yes.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You magnify that on a worldwide basis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give out your information.
		We're about out of time.
		The show's almost over.
		I want you to get your information out again.
unidentified		Oh, okay, right.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		You can order the book.
		My book is coming out in two weeks' time.
		You can order the book by calling 1-800-231-1776.
		That's 1-800-231-1776.
		And the name of the book? Is Reverse Speech Voices from the Unconscious.
		Now, if you want to order a machine or make further inquiries about reverse speech, you can call the office, which is 619-732-3097.
		I have a website up, and that is www.reverspeech.com.
		That's reverse speech1word.com.
		The most important number to remember, though, is the 1-800 number.
		That's for the book and tapes and most general product inquiries.
		And I'll say that again: 1-800-231-1776.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		It has been a great pleasure.
		It really has been a pleasure.
		I sit here in awe after this night.
		And I hope that you are, of course, going to stay home.
		You are going to tape the debates.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I definitely intend to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if anything truly shocking rears its ugly reverse head, I hope you will call me and let me know so we can get it on sometime next week.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I will do that for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it has been a remarkable night, David, and I know that for you, how old are you?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I am 40.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		40.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you've been working on this for 13 years.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I started when I was 27.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		13 years.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it's kind of like an adult lifetime work for you, really.
unidentified		Oh, it really has been.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it really has.
		It's occupied most of my adult life.
		It's been said to me by many people, you know, it really no one else could have, it needed one person to be totally committed and dedicated to this to pull it off, you know, and A lot of people have said that to me, and that's, you know, that's what I did.
The Honors: Good Night America 00:01:32
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		I'm really just a normal everyday Aussie.
unidentified		I really am.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And I got obsessed with it, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was going to say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I was about to bring up that word, obsession.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's the way things get done, David.
unidentified		That is true.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And we've forgotten that.
		We really have.
		We need to take responsibility for our own lives and our own direction.
		And anyone can do anything if they put all their attention and mind to it and don't get swayed by people pulling them either side, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the ethic of obsession.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		David, the show is over, so I'm going to give you the honors.
		And I don't know if you know what they are or not, but simply, well, do you know what they are?
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		The honors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The honors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The honors are: say, good night, America.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Good night, America.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And stay tuned for more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, and Canada as well.
		All of our friends out there, my friend, thank you.
		Good night.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		And thank you very much.
david john oates ▲ ● ▼		Good night, everyone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, this is going to take a bit of digestion for many, I know.
		If you want a copy of this program, and I'm sure you do, the number is 1-800-917-4278.
		That's 1-800-917-4278 to get a copy of this program from the high desert.

Chapters

00:00:17 Never Heard Before
00:05:16 Intentional Backmasking
00:12:12 Reversal Revelations
00:18:08 Forward and Reverse Speech
00:27:19 Daddy's Reverse Speech
00:42:21 Reverse Speech Mirrors
00:47:43 Bill Clinton's Reverse Speech
01:01:50 Forward vs. Reverse Speech
01:11:09 Reverse Speech Revelation
01:14:38 Reversing Lies
01:27:22 Backwards Speech Reversals
01:36:59 Implications Of Reverse Speech
01:40:19 Wives Sorry, Husbands Sense
01:43:14 Accidental Discovery
01:46:07 Caller's Perspective
01:50:20 The Honors: Good Night America