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Sept. 9, 1996 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Open Lines - TWA 800, Arts Parts, Crop Circles

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	Welcome to Art Bell, somewhere in time.
	Tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, and welcome to the best live overnight talk show in America, also the largest from the Hawaiian and Tahitian island chains.
	Racing eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, where I might add, it's raining like crazy right now.
	We'll get to that.
	South into South America, north to the pole.
	Definitely worldwide on the Internet.
	I bid you all good morning.
	I'm Art Bell, and we have a great deal to do this morning.
	It's going to be open lines.
	And, uh, I'll go breezing through the news for you here in a moment.
	I got a really nice letter from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia.
	Dear Art, I'm a big fan of your show.
	My friend Kirk of Kirkland, Washington faithfully sends all your tapes and programs to me.
	My name is Hoon Yen.
	I'm a Chinese born in Malaysia and have been teaching mathematics to school students for 25 years.
	I have visited your beautiful country many times.
	I was there in May of June this year, May and June, so I missed the talk about the sea monster found off the island near here.
	I'm trying to get a copy of a newspaper here featuring the story to send it to you.
	Please continue with your fantastic show I admire, get this, The American Way of Life, and how you pursue the truth.
	And how you can be so vocal in every belief.
	Because here in Malaysia, a person can be put in prison without trial for uttering a tenth of what you guys say on your show, especially the part about the government.
	What a great country you have.
	And I have an autographed picture, which we're going to send.
	It would mean so much to me, and so forth and so on.
	That's Foo Chan of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
	And I thought that was kind of a nice letter.
	Now, there are two newspaper articles, one in the Gilmore Mirror, and I want to thank Russ Green for that wonderful article.
	He was along on the trip, and Russ wrote a really, really nice article about us and sent it to us.
	And there is an article... Look, let me begin by saying that you really need to go up to my webpage tonight.
	You really do.
	I call it a tabloid.
	And somebody anonymously uploaded this article to my webpage from Canada, I suppose.
	And this newspaper called the Times, up in, I think it's, where is it?
	Is it in Vancouver?
	Yeah, Vancouver Island Newspaper Group.
	I ran this article, and I'll let you decide.
	Now, somebody sent me a fax and said, this is not a tabloid newspaper.
	However, I will read the headlines to you here in a moment.
	You can read the entire article up on the web page.
	But I'll read the headlines to you.
	Well, no, I'll do it now.
	And you decide.
	You tell me if this is tabloid style or not.
	At the top it says, Times Exclusive!
	NASA Hiding Aliens!
	Then the sub-headlines are, Talk Show Host, Hiding Saucer Parts!
	Exclusive, Learn the Truth Behind Arts Parts!
	Feds Ready to Swoop!
	Feds Ready to Swoop!
	Now, let me tell you, nobody talked to me about this article.
	Nobody consulted me, nobody bothered to ask me or even bothered to try to contact me about this article.
	And I'll read you some highlights from it.
	You can read the entire article up on the webpage.
	Just keep scrolling down and you'll read the whole thing.
	But it is incredible, the things they have said in here.
	So, as far as I can see, they made it up as they went.
	They may have listened to the programmers on something, but with regard to the things they've said in here, my God!
	Fed's ready to swoop I don't know where they get this stuff.
	It's tabloid style.
	It may not be a tabloid newspaper, but it sure is tabloid style.
	You take a look.
	You let me know what you think.
	There are new photographs on the webpage.
	There are now electron scanning microscope photographs of the alleged Roswell pieces at the Roswell Museum.
	And that's the silver-copper-silver layered material, 16 layers, and we've got photographs up there for you.
	I scanned those and got them up, I think, Sunday.
	And Keith has been very, very busy getting all of this up there.
	But he thought you would enjoy this article from Canada.
	Not a tabloid, huh?
	Okay.
	So, there's all of that and a lot more.
	I can't even think of it all right now.
	It will occur to me as I go up on the webpage.
	I would definitely suggest you go up and take a look.
	It's www.artbell.com.
	Easy to remember.
	Easy to get to.
	www.artbell.com.
	There is a wealth of new stuff up there for you.
	President Clinton wants a billion dollars for more airline safety, security, wants cameras, scanners.
	As a matter of fact, they've got a scanner which can look right through your clothes and see you butt naked.
	And, you know, it occurs to me that we might be asking for all of this a little early.
	I mean, what if a missile brought down Flight 800?
	How is the billion dollars going to help that?
	Maybe we ought to spend some of it on electronic counter-warfare measures for 747s and other commercial aircraft.
	So... In other words, why not wait for an answer on what happened to Flight 800 before going bonkers on spending money?
	And a little follow-up.
	This is all over the place.
	I don't know what it means, but weeks after the TWA 800 explosion and hundreds of miles away, get this, an American Airlines pilot claims he saw a missile pass his jetliner in flight.
	While the two cases were being investigated separately, report fits a scenario that is one of the theories under consideration in the TWA case, that a missile brought down the jumbo jet, killing all 230 aboard.
	So here's a pilot who saw a missile go whizzing by his commercial aircraft.
	Now that would get your attention, wouldn't it?
	If you were sitting there trucking along, probably on autopilot, and there goes a missile.
	Too close for comfort.
	Iraq.
	Two more towns in northern Iraq have fallen with the help of Saddam Hussein and company.
	The story coming out now about what occurred in Iraq is rather interesting.
	That the U.S.
	had a facility in northern Iraq that was essentially CIA based there in northern Iraq and Saddam knew it and that's what made him go north.
	The CIA guys, once Saddam headed north, had to abandon their facility, probably shred what they could, left a lot behind, equipment and such, and get the hell out of Dodge.
	So, we extended the no-fly zone in the south, and hit him with missiles in the south, in response to that.
	Now that is the story going around.
	I don't know.
	I still don't fully understand what's going on here.
	In other words, if we're going to all this trouble and expense to chill Saddam, and we're trying to train other people to do it, why don't we just do it up front and kill the SOB?
	You know, that's my attitude about this, and I know it seems to many brutal, but I mean, here we are spending all of this money Um, to have covert operations to train people in Northern Iraq to kill Saddam.
	Or to depose him, and I don't know how you do that without killing him.
	So, check me if I'm wrong here, folks, but, you know, if we want to kill Saddam, why don't we just do it?
	I've got, um, a whole bunch of other stuff here, but I don't, uh, have, I'll try to get to it, uh, slowly.
	There's some really, really good stuff in here, but I'm going to have to ration my time, or I'm going to run out of
	it.
	Hurricane Fran has left her mark.
	and As you know, last week we did a program and talked to all the people out there in the hurricane affected area.
	I'm afraid we're going to have to do it again soon.
	The legacy of Fran is the Potomac overflowing its banks, double flood stage, incredible, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, the nation's capital, all flooding, 22 dead, the death toll climbing, seven still not found, a billion dollars in damage in North Carolina alone, and now, enter soon, Hortense.
	Hurricane It is a hurricane now.
	They said, well, they didn't think it would become a hurricane.
	Wrong!
	It has.
	They say it's too early to determine whether it's going to pose a threat to the mainland.
	However, it certainly is posing a threat to Puerto Rico and the U.S.
	Virgin Islands.
	They say, Hortense, even at this early stage, may dump one foot of rain I say again, one foot of rain.
	So I hope all of you are okay in the islands this morning.
	I think it likely that it will not hit St.
	Thomas, even St.
	Croix, hopefully too hard.
	And I'd love to talk to you, so if you are in St.
	Thomas or St.
	Croix, you're getting an early preview of Hortense.
	You might call me at 1-800-825-5033.
	Let me hold the line open a little while for our friends in the U.S.
	Virgin Islands to see what's going on with Hortense.
	Great, another hurricane.
	Headed west, northwest, trolling along, gathering strength, and no doubt the people in North Carolina.
	Well, it's a little early to call it, but the people from Florida to, well, all the way along the eastern seaboard may have something else to worry about.
	It's a factory of hurricanes in the Atlantic.
	The drug use business continues to be in the news.
	And a new study has found that parental attitudes are part of the trouble.
	Parents who smoke pot probably will end up with kids who smoke pot.
	About 65% of those who tried pot when they were young think their kids will, and probably they will.
	A former Clinton political strategist, Dick Morris, says he didn't tell a prostitute that First Lady Hillary Clinton ordered controversial review of FBI files.
	So, he is denying that.
	And while we're on the subject of politics, is the election all over?
	The polls show men on dole about evenly split.
	Women, on the other hand, favor Bill Clinton by incredible amounts.
	I mean, just incredible amounts.
	Now, you can say it's the abortion issue, and maybe to some degree it is, but it's certainly a lot more than that.
	Come on, this gender gap is a lot deeper than abortion.
	Because women voted in droves for Ronald Reagan, and he was anti-abortion.
	So, this gender gap is a lot more than abortion.
	And I will ask you about the gender gap.
	Why?
	But give me some answer, if you would, other than the abortion topic, because I think it's more than that.
	Oh, by the way, nobody has yet asked, so I will.
	What do you think this election year's October surprise is going to be?
	I like to, in September, every year prior to an election, ask what you think this year's October surprise is going to be.
	So what do you think it's going to be?
	By the way, I've got a kind of a half of an idea here, and I want to know if you think it's a good one.
	I got a call earlier in the day from Harry Brown's headquarters, and while they are going to try every possible venue and avenue toward getting into the presidential debates, in the end, they think they probably will not make it.
	And so they said, hey Art, On the night of the debates, what would you think of having Harry Brown on?
	And I've been thinking about that since I got the message earlier in the day.
	And I think that's a pretty good idea.
	In other words, generally make a list of those items debated by Bob Dole and Bill Clinton, and submit them on the air, here, to Harry Brown.
	It would be very instructional to hear what he would have to say.
	So we could then imagine what it might be like had Harry Brown been allowed into the debates.
	And so I wonder if you guys think that would be a good idea.
	Going back for a second to this article, you've really got to go up there and take a look at it.
	Times, huh?
	Talk show host hiding saucer parts.
	Feds ready to swoop.
	Exclusive learn-the-truth-behind-arth parts.
	Let's see.
	CFUN, C-F-U-N, broadcasts a popular program of American origin called Dream World.
	Well, of course, they didn't even get that quite right.
	It's dreamland, Nick.
	Dreamland.
	And, let's see, it says, um, Bell started out in relative calm.
	However, the opportunities surrounding this topic, meaning the parts, have proved just too much and Bell has gone off the deep end.
	Let's see.
	All this is fortunate for Bell, because he's at least partly in the UFO business, meaning getting these parts.
	But there's a problem, because the Feds have to keep their conspiracy going.
	They'd undoubtedly swoop down, seize the goods, and then deny their existence.
	Therefore, Bell has dispersed his evidence to a number of secret locations.
	But aren't they available to accredited scientists?
	Obviously, you just don't understand the length of the government's reach!
	Then they go on to say, lately, Bell has been getting a little testy about the whereabouts of what have come to be called arseparts, which means losing it on the air and yelling at skeptics to phone somebody else's show.
	His concern isn't surprising, because given the fortune he could extract from them, yeah, right, He either doesn't like money or doesn't have them.
	Well, the pictures are up there for all to see.
	And many, many people have seen them and handled the parts, so that's silly.
	And as far as making a fortune, so far all they have done is cost me a fortune.
	So I don't know where they get this stuff.
	I have no idea.
	But to me, it is tabloid style.
	If it is not a tabloid, it certainly is tabloid style.
	Take a look at it.
	It's on the webpage and you tell me.
	All right.
	Arne, I thought you would enjoy this.
	In a recent issue of Meat and Poultry magazine, editors quoted from Feathers, the publication of the California Poultry Industry Federation, telling the following story.
	It seems the U.S.
	Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device It's for testing the strength of windshields on airplanes.
	The device is basically a gun.
	that launches a dead chicken at the plane's windshield at approximately the speed the plane flies.
	The theory is, if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight.
	Well, it seems the British were very interested in this, wanted to test it on a windshield on a brand new speedy locomotive they're developing there.
	They borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken, and fired.
	Well, the ballistic chicken Shattered the windshield, went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel, then embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab.
	The British were stunned.
	Asked the FAA to recheck the test to see if everything was done correctly.
	The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and had one recommendation.
	Next time, use a thawed chicken.
	We'll be right back.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	We've got to get right back to where we started from.
	Do you remember that day?
	That sunny day.
	Do you remember that day, that sunny day, when you first came my way?
	I said no one could take your place And if you get hurt, if you get hurt by the little things I
	say I can put that smile back on your face
	When it's alright and it's coming along We gotta get right back to where we started from
	The End The End
	The End you
	You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	From Mike in San Jose.
	Art, first it was La Chupacabra, the Goat Sucker.
	Then Nick Morris, the Toe Sucker, Toe Cabra.
	Now it is the Groundhog Sucker, Ground Cabra.
	On page one of the San Jose Mercury for the 9th of September, there is an article On how a Denver, Colorado company called Dog Gone uses a truck-mounted vacuum cleaner to suck prairie dogs out of their holes at 300 miles per hour.
	Poor little guys, never know what hit them.
	Perhaps these folks might take care of your rabbits and ground squirrels.
	Sincerely, Mike.
	San Jose.
	Can you imagine that?
	Being down in the ground, contentedly trucking along in your hard, no doubt a very hard-worked hole, and all of a sudden, 300 miles an hour, and you're gone.
	Ah, what's next?
	East of the Rockies, you are upon the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Well, hello there!
	Hi, how are you?
	I'm calling from St.
	Thomas.
	Oh, in the Virgin Islands?
	Yes, lots and lots of rain, and very, very windy.
	And, um, you know, I don't know who's measuring, but I can tell you it's buckets of water.
	I would like to know who's responsible for all these damn hurricanes.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Some crazy men and women who keep coming down this way.
	That's Hortense, for one.
	Yeah, it's Hortense's fault.
	Anyway, right now, um, You know, St.
	Thomas really has not recovered from Maryland.
	Yes, I know.
	Because so many people have tarps on their roofs.
	So, um, everybody has buckets.
	And some people are sweeping out water.
	Some people are just... You know, it's really horrible whenever it rains like this.
	Well, is the main body of the hurricane now past you and headed toward Puerto Rico?
	I don't know, because I'm only listening to you right now.
	Only to me?
	Yes.
	Last I saw, it was over you.
	It looked like St.
	Croix might be getting a bigger beating than you are.
	Yes, they did say that St.
	Croix was going to pass to the south of St.
	Croix.
	Well, I wouldn't say it's a hurricane, but the winds are high, and we're having lots of rain.
	Lots and lots of rain.
	Well, at 80 miles an hour it is, of course, officially a hurricane, though it's not right over you.
	So I feel so sorry for you folks.
	I mean, it's one after another.
	You know, SBA has not been helping us much here.
	We're at the towers, the infamous towers that were really destroyed.
	And we haven't gotten the money yet, so we can't fix the roof.
	And it's just continuous.
	So you've got to be there with a bucket?
	Not as buckets.
	Everybody's sweeping out water.
	Some people are just like I am in one room and I'm just letting the rest of it get wet and tomorrow I'll just sweep it out.
	Oh no.
	No, it's just rain.
	All right, but listen, the rain is better than the hurricane.
	That's right.
	All right, well, listen, by the way, the last I heard, the hurricane was kind of stalled, which is really bad news, because, I mean, it's almost just sitting there right now.
	Yeah, it's just sitting there giving us a lot of rain, but I don't believe it.
	This does not seem to be hurricane wind.
	It's nothing like Maryland or Bertha.
	Right.
	It's just lots and lots of rain.
	Lots of water.
	Alright, well listen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very, very much for the report.
	Take care.
	And now I will open these to the Rockies for everybody.
	I just wanted to get a report.
	Lots of rain.
	Those poor people.
	Well, it's south of them and sort of beating them to death with the circulation just bringing rain bands over them and sitting there.
	Nobody knows exactly what's going to happen.
	Hopefully it will not come to the mainland.
	But I have this awful feeling that it will.
	It'll build, it'll intensify, it will take aim, and it will hit the U.S.
	mainland.
	Probably.
	Total bummer.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes, sir.
	Am I talking to you?
	Well, if not, then I'm not sure who you are talking to.
	Is it time-lapse?
	Only if you're listening to your radio, and when you get on the air, you're not supposed to.
	Right, I turned it off.
	Yes.
	What I wanted to mention, you just read the... I guess it was a fax.
	I just came in on the program, so I haven't heard too much.
	I wanted to mention that I enjoy immensely your program.
	I listen to it.
	Just constantly.
	I'm up and about most of the time that you're on.
	In any event, about the gophers, you cut that short.
	I think you better mention that they're swooped up that tube at 300 miles an hour, but the inventor has a foam cushion to You mean they live?
	Oh yeah, the purpose of the doggone thing is to transfer gophers from areas where they're not wanted.
	Well, what do they do for gopher heart attacks?
	I mean, if you got sucked out of a hole at 300 miles an hour, foam or no foam, you're going to have a heart attack.
	The article I read, and I believe it was probably the same one that your person sent in, went on to say that the inventor of this scooper has been under quite a bit of fire from the animal rights group.
	Actually, I'd like to interview him.
	Well, I think it's quite a thing because he claims that most of the gophers They arrive in the truck after their transport through the tube a little bit dazed.
	How do they prevent a gopher pileup?
	In other words, if one gopher comes flying through at 300 miles an hour and hits the phone, I've got that part, he lives, he's a little dazed or has a heart attack or whatever.
	Then the second gopher fires at 300 miles an hour, how come he doesn't land on top of the first gopher at 300 miles an hour?
	Now that would be a mess.
	They go about the gopher colonies with this truck and they're not scooping up gophers by large numbers.
	They find a gopher trail or a gopher tunnel and they put the hose down the tunnel and they'll scoop one or two up and then they have to spot them again and they move the truck over to the next Yeah, but I mean, how would you prevent, for example, suppose there's a whole family, mom, dad, and three little gopher babies, all sort of in there together, you'll... Well, they didn't mention the...
	The offspring, the little ones in that.
	Well, if the inventor of this insidious machine, or wonderful machine, would like to contact me, I will interview him.
	Yeah, it's very interesting, but he's transporting a lot of these gophers where they ordinarily would shoot them.
	Seems to me if you just left the other end, you know, like a vacuum cleaner, and just blew them out the other end, you could almost put these gophers in orbit.
	Just blow them out into low Earth orbit.
	Alright, well listen, thank you very much for the call.
	only here.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Going once.
	Going twice.
	Gone.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Art.
	Yes.
	This is Mark in Decatur, Alabama.
	How you doing?
	Oh, I'm fine.
	I was just listening to you talk about the possibility of having Harry Brown on.
	Yeah, what do you think of that idea?
	On the night of the debates, assuming he is denied access, I could kind of make notes on the questions submitted to the candidates and then submit roughly the same questions to Harry Brown just to see what it would have been like had he been there.
	I think that's a good idea.
	Yeah.
	I like the idea.
	So did I.
	Unfortunately, he doesn't stand much of a chance of winning.
	No, but I think he's probably the most principled person I've heard of.
	Yes, even though I don't agree with all of his principles, there is no question about it.
	The man is principled.
	He's also, by the way, on all 50 state ballots.
	And that makes me think that people who qualify ought to get at least one shot at the debates.
	Well, I agree with that.
	So do I. I mean, that's why I thought it'd be interesting.
	All right, thank you very much.
	So maybe I'll do that.
	His headquarters thought it'd be a good idea, which I thought was very flattering.
	I mean, on the night of the debates, it gives him an opportunity to respond.
	And the trick would be to make note of the questions asked of the other two candidates and get Harry's answer.
	And that way you can sit back and imagine what the debates would have been like or how they would have been altered had the Libertarian candidate been there.
	The debate commission is about to meet, and I rather think that Ross Perot and Harry Brown are not going to be in, although they ought to be.
	I don't know what the criterion should be.
	Perhaps being on all 50 state ballots ought to qualify a person for at least the first round of the debates.
	I don't know.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello, Art Bell?
	Yes, sir.
	I listened to your program since May.
	Since May?
	I didn't do it one night by accident.
	Well, a lot of people find me by accident.
	I had never heard of you until then, but your programs are fantastic, and I listen almost all the time.
	Thank you.
	Well, they are different.
	I have three things to talk with you about.
	All right.
	All of them are quick.
	All right.
	Flight 800.
	Yes, sir.
	I have thought from the very beginning that this was probably a missile that brought down Flight 800.
	I talked to a friend of mine who was retired from the Air Force this last weekend, and the first thing he said when he saw me was, what do you think brought down Flight 800?
	I said, a missile, but I don't know what kind or where it came from.
	He said, I thoroughly agree.
	He said, Aviation Week and Space Technology, which is a magazine that you probably have heard of, is running a whole series of articles on Flight 800, and he says there was a National Guard Air Group Practicing about 30 miles from where that plane went down.
	that's right and tiles and another article indicating
	the uh... the air force the army the military is not cooperating with the f
	b i in the investigation is very suspicious
	not surprising yes it is
	because they would protect one another until they found out exactly what happened well
	uh... look yes you That one doesn't wash here.
	I mean, we're talking about 230 American lives and airliners.
	No, that doesn't wash.
	If we did this by accident, then we need to come forward and damn well say so right away.
	And in not doing so, you have subverted the entire Constitution, in my opinion.
	Oh, I agree with that.
	Period.
	I mean, not only... The act itself, thank you, is bad enough.
	If it was an accident, that's horrible.
	But it is not as horrible as one federal agency, in effect, keeping it from another.
	I'm not saying that's what's going on here.
	But that would be truly horrible.
	That would mean the end of everything that we hold and cherish as dear.
	And that is I don't know, the American way.
	You just don't do that.
	If there is an accident, you own up to it, you make changes, so it never happens again.
	You don't hide it.
	If you indulge a cover-up, you know, then we're losing it.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	No, I guess we missed you.
	Too bad.
	Wildcard line, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Art.
	That's me.
	Turn your radio off, please.
	Yeah, I got you.
	Listen, my name is James.
	I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
	I guess I've been listening for about two years now.
	I've got my friend, Ron, here with me.
	We're in college here.
	You've got to forgive me.
	I'm a little nervous, so bear with me.
	I understand.
	I've got an ultimate conspiracy theory here about the crop circles.
	You know what somebody did?
	Somebody sent me a fax a little earlier tonight and said they think crop circles are harp.
	They also think that Saddam Hussein is going to be found with red burn marks all over him in the middle of a crop circle in Iraq.
	That has nothing to do with people on Earth.
	I'm talking about, I guess, interplanetary conspiracy.
	Really?
	Just hear me out.
	I'm listening.
	You can make your judgment.
	This is just a thought.
	You know, people read information on a point scale, like you read a book.
	It can be in a 12 point font or a smaller font.
	We read on a really small scale.
	These aliens apparently have done a lot of research on human beings and know somewhat of how we think and how we ingest information, I would assume.
	But these crop circles are humongous.
	I don't know if you've ever... have you ever been to one and seen one?
	No, but I don't have to go to one, sir, to appreciate the dimensions of them.
	I've got photographs on my website, as you know.
	Obviously.
	Okay, so obviously, you know, if you were to walk up to one and look at it, you know,
	it would probably not register too well.
	You probably couldn't digest a whole lot of it.
	Well, it would not be particularly impressive on the ground anyway.
	You've got to see the totality of it, and that can only be done from the air.
	Okay.
	Okay?
	My point.
	Okay?
	That is my point.
	Who sees things from the air?
	Okay, we see things from the air in planes.
	Okay?
	That is not our natural realm, obviously.
	To what do we associate the sky with?
	Besides planes, and that's UFOs.
	Well, alright.
	Yes, I see where you're going.
	Thank you.
	In other words, it can only be seen from the air.
	Therefore, it was done from the air.
	And I think that is a safe conclusion.
	I don't think it necessarily leads one to the conclusion that, you know, it's done by saucers.
	But done from the air?
	Yeah, I'd say you could draw that conclusion.
	Listen to this.
	I got this from a certain television station, and I won't mention which, in Hawaii.
	Hi Art, I'm in the process of tracking down a very interesting guest for you.
	I've got a friend named Paul who lives part-time in Honolulu, part-time in Portland, head of a fairly large and successful company.
	He has a girlfriend named Anita.
	In the past I've brought up the subject of UFOs with both Paul and Anita.
	Neither of them knew enough about it to make an opinion or have an opinion.
	I suspect they probably thought I was a bit off kilter.
	Recently Paul and Anita came to Hawaii for a visit.
	Anita approached me with great excitement, said she'd met a woman I had to talk to, something about... something had really gotten Anita's attention on the subject of UFOs, and this is her story about the woman.
	This woman currently works for the huge hydroelectric power company in the Northwest, Bonneville Power.
	She apparently holds a major position there.
	The woman is a Native American.
	And very much into Native American history, language, and culture.
	She can speak and read one of the ancient languages.
	The woman has also been in the Special Forces, and apparently holds a high-level, top-secret clearance, according to her.
	She was contacted by certain officials sometime in the past, and taken to a crystal mountain somewhere near Palm Desert, California.
	She was shown some inscriptions in crystal that were very, very old and asked to translate them.
	According to this woman, they were written in a number of ancient languages.
	One of them was the Native American language, or petrographs, that she's able to read.
	She says they had been etched by laser and were holographs.
	Very high-tech, yet very ancient.
	The message translated simply, Quote, We came to this planet.
	We seeded this planet.
	We will return.
	End quote.
	Anita says this woman is now ready to go public with her story.
	She can verify her credentials.
	I am in the process of contacting her.
	Unfortunately, I work for a mainstream local TV news department, which I will not identify.
	Should I take this to my news director?
	He'd ask me what I'd been smoking.
	So when I contact the woman, I will give you the information.
	Take care.
	Love the show.
	Dick in Hawaii.
	Well, thanks, Dick.
	I appreciate that.
	We'll follow it up.
	I don't care.
	People already know I'm crazy and I'll do this sort of thing, and that's fascinating, so I will follow it up indeed.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Hello.
	This is Larry Mobile.
	Mobile, Alabama.
	All right.
	Hopefully we won't get the storm.
	Hopefully not.
	We tend to get them here, or in the Northern Gulf.
	Anyway, about an hour ago, you had a Dark Skies promo.
	You played as a bumper.
	Oh, not a bumper.
	No, sir.
	That's NBC advertising on my program.
	Well, now let me play ignorant for a moment.
	I work with an NBC affiliate, and that is an actual promo.
	That's an actual advertisement for Dark Skies.
	Okay, a promo for NBC.
	Not a promo.
	A commercial.
	We're being paid to play that.
	Oh, okay.
	I see.
	Because I had not seen that as a promo on the network.
	No.
	But you're being paid to carry that.
	Yeah.
	Well, it sounds like probably one of a very intriguing show.
	Oh, it is.
	I've got the first two-hour episode.
	Ah-ha-ha-ha.
	They sent it to me.
	Oh, you've seen it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, you can't fill a sentence, can you?
	Absolutely not.
	You're sworn to secrecy?
	Absolutely so.
	I can tell you, you don't want to miss it.
	And if you enjoy what's on this program, you're going to be in love with that program.
	Well, I can't wait.
	You know, a couple of weeks, though, we're going to be glued to the set.
	Of course, I'll be at work, but I'll be taping it for sure.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	All right, my friend.
	Thank you.
	We enjoy it.
	Thank you very much.
	Take care.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm very pleased about that.
	And I understand Fox has contacted us for advertising as well.
	So that's cool, too.
	and by the way for those of you down in uh...
	about in uh...
	louisiana and uh...
	down new orleans louisiana We now are talking to two stations, WTIX and WSMB.
	The latest is WSMB, and now it's becoming kind of a bidding war for the show in New Orleans.
	So, obviously, we're going to be back in New Orleans very quickly.
	If you get an opportunity, give WSMB a call and tell them you'd like to have the program.
	And we'll see which one gets it.
	And there may even be a third.
	So we're gonna be in New Orleans in days.
	You figured.
	Told you.
	You're listening to the best in late night live spontaneous talk.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	Music Music
	the the
	I'm gonna burn up the wall.
	I don't know why.
	I guess I'm like everybody else.
	I kind of like this dumb song.
	Now don't you worry about my boyfriend.
	The boy whose name is Victorino.
	I don't want him to stand him.
	He was no good, so I... Now, come on.
	What was I supposed to do?
	He was out of town.
	This is actually the real... No fun.
	The real Macarena.
	the other side of the world all right here's uh... here's a batch from montgomery alabama
	It says, hey Art, a man walks into an antique store and begins looking around.
	All of a sudden, he spies a huge brass rat in the corner.
	He falls in love with it instantly.
	So he takes it to the cashier.
	The old grisly cashier says, the rat, eh?
	Yeah, how much, replies our friend.
	Well, five bucks for the rat, but two hundred dollars for the story, he replies.
	So, the customer obviously says, well, I'll just take the rat, forget the story.
	He leaves the store, his precious brass rat tucked under his arm.
	Soon, he begins to notice that a few rats are following him.
	So he walks a few more blocks, and the number of rats behind him is increased.
	This continues until there are virtually millions and millions of rats behind him.
	Afraid of this mass following, the man runs to the sea and throws his brass rat in.
	All of the rats plunged in after it and met their watery, twitching deaths.
	The man ran back to the antique store, of course.
	The old cashier was chuckling to himself, so...
	Do you now want the story?
	No, the man says, but have you got any brass Democrats?
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, how you doing?
	I'm doing.
	Where are you calling from, sir?
	This is Bruce in New Orleans.
	Oh, hi, Bruce.
	Yeah, we're picking you up tonight on...
	I'm out of San Antonio.
	Yup, well then you may have heard me say, give WSMB a call, because they're probably about to pick up the show.
	I already did.
	I gave them a call last Tuesday, as a matter of fact.
	Excellent, thank you.
	That's all I want to let you know.
	Keep up the good work, and looking forward to getting you on another station down here.
	All right, my friend.
	Thank you.
	It's coming in the next few days.
	We don't know who it'll be just yet.
	It'll be one of them down there, that's for sure.
	This is interesting, too, and I thought I would get it out to you.
	Just because it makes you think.
	If we could shrink the Earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people.
	Now think about that for a moment.
	Shrink the entire Earth's population to a village of 100 people, with all existing human ratios remaining the same, The village, Hillary's no doubt, would look like this.
	There'd be 57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the Western Hemisphere, North and South, and 8 Africans.
	That's it!
	57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the West, and 8 Africans.
	51 would be female, 49 male, 70 would be non-white, 30 would be white, 70 would be non-Christian, 30 would be Christian.
	50% of the entire world's wealth would be in the hands of six people, and all six would be citizens of the USA.
	Eighty would live in substandard housing.
	Seventy would be unable to read.
	Fifty would suffer from malnutrition.
	One would be near death.
	One would be near birth.
	Only one would have a college education.
	No one would own a computer.
	Wow.
	When one considers our world from such an incredibly compressed perspective, the need for both tolerance and understanding becomes glaringly apparent.
	I thought that was priceless.
	And I want to thank Jerry, who's a good friend of mine, for sending it along.
	Thank you, Jerry.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Hello.
	Yeah, Chuck from Amarillo.
	Amarillo, Texas.
	Oh, my old stomping grounds.
	Yeah, that's what I heard.
	I was talking to one of the station operators down here that evidently knew you way back when.
	18 glorious months, year and a half, at Amarillo.
	I understand you're going to have Richard Hoagland on.
	Is that correct?
	I am.
	This anti-gravity business is absolutely stunning, and he is prepared to talk about it.
	So sometime, I don't know, maybe this week, He wants to do a little more research, get totally up to speed, and then tell us what's going on.
	I got a couple questions I'd like you to ask if you could.
	Alright.
	I was out in the backyard, they were playing with my telescope, and I was checking out the eastern quadrant of the moon.
	Right.
	And have you ever been in an airplane and looked down and watch an airplane cross underneath you?
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, well this is what I saw in the moon.
	I had it really highly magnified to where I could look down into the valley.
	I followed this dot and it started at the top as you were looking at the moon and went
	clear to the bottom on a direct course.
	You mean it moved?
	Yeah, all the way down.
	I like to ask is, do we have any satellites circling the moon now, and if so, how tight
	can they get the orbit?
	I truly appreciate that.
	It was just a black dot.
	but i will ask richard for you okay i truly appreciate that
	you know it was just a black dot and it was you know uh...
	i was i was born you know i just didn't know that i was stuff on the moon
	you know and i was thinking of myself my i've got a good picture
	here Sounds like the interview I did with the astronomer the other day.
	People see things in telescopes and they don't talk about them.
	Unless you have a show about it, then they talk about them.
	Well, it was something that surprised me.
	And it looked like it had direction in its mind.
	If it would have been a bird or anything of that nature, there would have been a zig-zag pattern.
	Well, I mean, look at the scale, sir, for something to be A black dot, assuming that it was in moon orbit or somewhere near the moon, for you to see it as a dot, it would have to be absolutely gigantic.
	Yeah, I would imagine.
	And to be that deliberate, that's the reason why I thought, well, maybe I'm, you know, catching a satellite going, you know, you know, maybe, maybe it was
	a flyer, a little bug going across your lens.
	Well, I thought about that too, but you go up in front and you know, the wind, I do indeed.
	And I'll tell you, they used to say there was a direct line from the Arctic right down
	the side of the mountains and dumping into Amarillo and they were right.
	Well, that's right.
	Well, it's all flat between here and the North Pole, anyhow.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Take care.
	That's Amarillo.
	Yeah, a year and a half at Amarillo.
	It's actually kind of a neat place.
	It is, particularly if you like weather.
	You know me and my old friend Lynn, and we love weather, and Amarillo was just the right place for it.
	I mean, sometimes you would go outside, you know, on a summer day when you're having a good thunderstorm, you'd look out, and at the horizon, which was some distance away, you would see this great wall of red moving toward you.
	And I say red because it was picking up Uh, a dust and dirt, uh, as it would come.
	And it was like the right hand of God was about to slam you.
	And slap you.
	And usually, that's about the way it turned out.
	Sound of jet engine.
	All right.
	Well, I want you to hear this because a lot of people think I'm off my rocker and all wet.
	Sometimes I am.
	But aren't as further evidence of the compass deviation phenomenon that you've been discussing on your program.
	Listen to this.
	I've been boating in Southern California for about 40 years.
	I frequently go to a favorite spot on Catalina Island.
	A weekend or two ago, my wife and I traveled to the island from our normal harbor to our normal spot on the island, using the same boat, the same compass we've been using for six years.
	As is my usual practice, I entered the normal course heading into the automatic pilot and off we went.
	Well, guess what happened?
	When we were about halfway to Catalina, a 21-mile run, I noted on the radar that the ship was not headed for our spot, but was heading about six degrees off course.
	After experiencing this, I thought of your comments regarding the magnetic deviations being experienced in other areas.
	Now, I tested this on the reciprocal course, in other words, heading back to the harbor from the island at the end of the weekend, and using my normal course from the island to the mainland, I would have missed the harbor entrance if I had not made a correction.
	Art, I tell you, I've used this course for literally decades and have used it with this boat and this autopilot for six years.
	Very strange indeed.
	A ham operator.
	Lynn, thank you very much, Lynn.
	So, you know, there is something going on out there with regard to magnetic deviation.
	You're just not hearing about it anywhere but here.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art Bell.
	This is Mike from Grandview.
	Grandview, Washington?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You've got hum on your phone, Mike.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	This is a used phone.
	Uh-huh.
	What can I do for you?
	Well, I've been listening to your show for quite a while now.
	I find it pretty interesting.
	It is?
	Yes.
	I was wondering about those lights in the crop circles.
	Oh, okay.
	Listen, I'm going to leave the line because that really is awful.
	If you heard the segment with Linda Bolton Howe, which ran Friday and Monday, in lieu of the live Dreamland.
	By the way, Whitley Streber is going to be with us, I believe, on the 22nd.
	We've rescheduled that.
	Oh!
	As a matter of fact, let me tell you what's coming up on Dreamland.
	But first, let me just finish where I was going.
	She reported that we now appear to have a videotape Of a crop circle actually being formed.
	In other words, actually caught on videotape.
	In nine seconds.
	With spherical lights above it.
	Dancing above it.
	So I'm looking forward to that evidence, and finally, perhaps we are getting somewhere on this crop circle business.
	September 15th on Dreamland, Dr. Richard Boylan, Author of Extraterrestrial Contact and Human Responses.
	September 22nd, Whitley Streber, abductee, author of Communion, and he's got new books out now, he'll tell you about those.
	September 29th, astronaut Dr. Brian O'Leary, author of Miracle in the Void.
	October 6th, now October, we devote pretty much to ghostly things.
	As you may know, culminating in our Ghost to Ghost Show on Halloween.
	So, October 6th begins with Richard Sennett, author of The Haunted Southland.
	On October 20th, Amber Wolfe, The Witch's Witch, author of Elemental Power.
	As you know, I've wanted to interview a witch.
	Amber Wolfe will be coming up October 20th, October 27th.
	Dr. Philip Stander and Dr. Paul Schmolling, I believe it is, authors of Poltergeists and the Paranormal Fact Beyond Fiction.
	November 10th, Dr. Bruce Goldberg, author of Past Lives, Future Lives.
	November 24th, John Michael Greer, author of Paths of Wisdom, Principles and Practice of the Magical Kabbalah in Western Tradition.
	So, that's quite a lineup.
	Of what's coming up on Dreamland, just thought you might want to know.
	Listen, you've got to get to my webpage tonight.
	No matter what else you do, you have got to get up there and see this article, which is in full, printed by this newspaper called The Times, which I understand is not a tabloid, though this is a very tabloidy article, I think.
	They never consulted me, never called me, they could have.
	It says, talk show host, hiding saucer parts.
	Exclusive, learn the truth behind art parts.
	Feds ready to swoop.
	The entire article is there, and I think you'll get a kick out of it, so we put it up on the webpage.
	That is there and so much more, brand new, on the webpage.
	Take a look, it's www.artbell.com www.artbell.com.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Is this Art?
	It is, yes.
	Yeah, this is Baja from Jacksonville, Florida.
	How are you doing?
	Yeah, I heard a while back you had an episode of Dreamland about vampires.
	That's right.
	Yeah, I'm really sad I missed that one.
	I would have loved to have called in and told you about the other side of the coin.
	Werewolves.
	Werewolves?
	Yes.
	I didn't know, werewolves are the other side of the vampire coin?
	Oh, yes.
	How so?
	We are sworn enemies of the vampire, actually.
	We don't like each other a bit.
	Uh, we, we, uh, we.
	What do you mean, we, Tonto?
	Yes.
	That means you are a vampire?
	No, I am a werewolf.
	You are a werewolf?
	Well, what you would call a werewolf.
	Well, that's fine.
	I mean, we won't play with words here.
	You're a werewolf.
	What does that boil down to meaning?
	I mean, what do you do as a werewolf?
	Well, it's not much different than anybody else.
	It's just a cultural kind of thing.
	There's a little bit of a physical difference between us and most humans.
	Well, what is a werewolf?
	What's a typical day for a werewolf?
	Just pretty much anything like a human.
	We lead pretty human lives.
	The only difference is we have a little bit of heightened senses.
	Better sense of smell?
	Better sense of smell.
	Yes, and we can see a little bit into the infrared area.
	What about your teeth?
	Uh, no, there's no teeth, uh, long teeth and, uh... How about hair?
	No, no, general, uh, just look like everybody else.
	Well then, how are we to discern you from the average guy on the street?
	Uh, pretty much you don't, that's the idea.
	Well, werewolves, though, I mean, they occasionally, they, they, don't they attack people and eat them?
	No, uh... Old wives tale?
	Actually, it's vampire propaganda.
	Vampire propaganda?
	Sort of a jealousy or a hatred?
	Yeah, pretty much.
	The most they can do to get us found out or just basically get the general populace after us is a plus on their side.
	Have you ever been identified by a vampire?
	Actually, that's an interesting story, because just about two or three weeks ago, a guy came up to a friend of mine in school and pegged me and two other members of my clan as werewolves.
	That's bad.
	And he wasn't a vampire, because he pegged three vampires to go to that school.
	Well, I guess that's lucky for you.
	Actually, it's... Now, how can you know that he won't go to the vampires and identify the werewolves?
	That's what scares me.
	This guy was not a vampire, but he was able to pick us and some vampires.
	Well, think of his incredible bargaining position.
	Yeah.
	I have no idea what his game is.
	Now, you said school.
	Are you in school?
	Well, not me particularly.
	I'm going to SCJ right now.
	You're going what?
	I'm going to Florida Community College at Jacksonville right now.
	Do they know they've got a vampire on board?
	I mean, I'm sorry, a werewolf.
	Excuse me.
	No?
	No, it's generally not a good idea to go around telling everybody you're a werewolf.
	You don't think the educational system there would respond well to news like that?
	No, I'd probably get a request for counseling.
	Well, have you considered that perhaps that might be a productive avenue?
	Well, I have actually thought about that, because this kind of weirded me out when I found out about it, because there's two ways you can become one of the breed, as we call ourselves.
	And how does one become a werewolf?
	Well, you're either born into it, or you're You have the spirit of a... I don't particularly believe in reincarnation, but I guess, you know... Well, listen, we're about out of time, so I need to know which is the case with you.
	Were you born into it, or...?
	No, my soul is the soul of an old werewolf.
	Soul of a werewolf.
	Yeah.
	Bummer.
	Listen, I've got to go.
	Well, I'm going to be sending you a letter soon.
	I'll definitely look forward to that, alright?
	Alright.
	Take care.
	Probably a hairy butt, huh?
	All night radio.
	We'll be right back.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	The Coast to Coast AM concert, with the band, and the audience.
	Thank you.
	I keep hearing you're concerned about my happiness.
	With all that thought you've given me this conscience, I guess.
	If I was walking in your shoes, I wouldn't worry none.
	While you and your friends are worried about me, I'm having lots of fun.
	Counting flowers on the wall, that don't bother me at all.
	Good morning, everybody.
	It's great to be here this morning.
	Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo, now don't tell me
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	Good morning everybody, it's great to be here this morning.
	Another week of who knows what underway.
	Don't get to talk to a werewolf every day.
	That was kind of fun.
	I didn't know there were enemies of uh...
	Flowers on the wall That don't bother me at all
	Vampires, I had no idea I am solitary till dawn
	With a deck of fifty-one Now live and learn
	Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo, now don't tell me
	Wild card line, you're on the air Good morning.
	Hello, this is Lonnie from Wichita.
	How you doing?
	Pretty good.
	I'd like to read you just one little short statement, if I could.
	It'll only take a few seconds.
	Is this your statement?
	No, it's not.
	Whose statement is it?
	It comes from a man inside Time Magazine.
	Inside Time?
	Uh-huh.
	Wow, you must be a flat guy.
	All right, let's hear it.
	Okay, Maintenance Chief, Nicko Juriak fiddles with the dials on his non-directional radio beacon.
	In a couple of hours, he will be a rich man.
	The two American operatives told him if he can quietly send Ron Brown's airplane into St.
	John's Hill, all he must do is to shut off his radio beacon at the same moment A decoy beacon is turned on at the base of the mountain.
	Oh, let's see.
	Yeah, of course you know that could be.
	The beacon switch is completed.
	The plane collides with the mountain, leaving only one survivor who was quietly murdered by the medevac flight surgeon on board the military helicopter sent to rescue Miss Shelly Kelly.
	Oh, that doesn't sound like time at all.
	Check out Shelly Kelly.
	You'll find out I'm telling you the truth.
	Well, maybe, but it doesn't sound like Time Magazine.
	Well, they kind of got the story jerked by the head of it.
	Oh, so in other words, it didn't run in time.
	It got its head cut off.
	See?
	See?
	All right.
	You know, don't quote some magazine like Time and then read a story like that and then tell me that it never did run.
	That's such tripe.
	Conspiracy crap.
	Now, who do you suppose had Ron Brown killed?
	Think the President of the United States?
	I mean, that is what you're saying, isn't it?
	The President of the United States had Ron Brown killed?
	Come on.
	Give me a break.
	I'm so sick of that kind of stuff.
	You know, it is exactly that kind of stuff that I think actually helps President Clinton.
	People get so damn far out into ridiculous nonsense Regarding political conspiracy, that they actually end up helping the candidate.
	That's what I think's happened.
	I think it's to the point where people are at saturation with the Clinton bashing.
	Not that he doesn't deserve bashing in some counts, but it's gone way too far, and there's a sort of a saturation numbing effect after a while, and Bill Clinton did this, killed that person, killed this person, Uh, he'd be busy issuing orders to have people killed.
	Wouldn't be able to get anything else done.
	If he killed all the people people thought he killed.
	So I think it does a disservice to consideration of real issues.
	You know, we're never going to get to that.
	I mean, there are real issues to be discussed in this coming choice, and that kind of stuff just washes everything else away.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Art?
	Hello.
	How you doing?
	This is Al Carr from Northern California.
	Hello, Al.
	How are you?
	Fine.
	I've been wanting to reach you for quite some time, and I'm surprised you got through.
	I've been listening to your show for well over a year now.
	What's held my interest were the Egyptian discussions on the artifacts and your Bigfoot and your arts parts.
	Yes.
	Anyway, if I may say, about 25 years ago I came into some artifacts myself.
	It's quite interesting.
	And at first when I purchased them, we thought they were Native American.
	I purchased them from a very old gentleman.
	What are these artifacts?
	Well, about a year and a half ago, we finally found out through my research of five years that they're actually Neanderthal.
	And what I have in my possession are... Are they like Charlie's relatives or something?
	Pardon me?
	Nothing.
	Anyway, what I have in my possession are stone, weapons and tools, and heads that are carved
	in the likeness of half man and half ape.
	Some are baboon and some are very gorilla and ape in shape, in form that is.
	Like example on one stone there is an effigy of a very thick browed person which is a male
	and it's little nose and it's large lips.
	Don't people, when they come into your house and they see these things, I mean, how do you have them displayed?
	Are they in a glass case?
	No, no, I have them, what I'm doing is, I've kept them in a ratchet quite some time because I had no idea what I had until a few years ago.
	I thought that we thought they were Native American Indian.
	I know, but when people come into your south house and they see, you know, heads and stuff.
	No, I have them just stored away.
	I really don't have them on display.
	I think that's good.
	I really don't display them.
	I wouldn't do that, yeah.
	No, and the thing is that my research, in fact, over tonight on an archaeology show, they were saying how that if one single piece could be found in the Americas, in the New World, it would change the entire evolution of mankind in the Americas.
	Well, think of what responsibility you have there.
	The thing is that I have a very large collection and I've made contact with a very famous auction house and we're here to hear back from them.
	You're going to sell them away for profit?
	Well, the thing is I have so many pieces and they're just sitting here and I was wondering maybe some of your callers might know because what's really interesting, Art, is that gentleman you had on there discussing the sphinx.
	Yeah?
	I have some stone carvings that are shaped like the sphinx.
	I have others that remind me of Amon Ra, the sun god.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	Why don't you take some photographs and send me some photographs?
	Oh, I'd love to do that.
	Sure, I've already got some of the sketches also.
	Well, I don't want sketches.
	I want pictures.
	Sure.
	All right?
	Send me pictures and I'll get them up on the web.
	Okay.
	All right, take care.
	God.
	Hits.
	Hits.
	And he's going to auction them off.
	Oh, man.
	I can just see that auction now.
	Now, we will be sold to the man in the red shirt.
	Take your head, sir.
	Change all of Western civilization.
	He's going to auction them off.
	Soft piece of paper.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	Steve from South Dakota.
	Hey, Steve.
	So you ought to get yourself a telescope, Art.
	Well, I really have a cool pair of binoculars that's the next best thing.
	I mean, they're really incredible binoculars.
	What are the power?
	I think they're 8x40.
	I've got a pair of 16x70 Fujinons.
	Well.
	And they're really something.
	But you need to get a telescope so you can see, you know, Hale-Bopp and the moon.
	Hey, look, if I just wait, I don't need to invest.
	Hale-Bopp is going to be pretty obvious pretty soon.
	Yeah, it is.
	Say, I got some negatives today from NASA.
	Yeah?
	And of the moon, and I hope I get them when, you know, Mr. Hoagland's on.
	Yeah.
	But I got one negative from Lunar Orbiter 3, and it's a remarkable negative.
	What do you see in it?
	There's an S crater.
	Remember I mentioned that to Richard when he was on last time?
	Yeah, I do.
	And it sticks out.
	It's just unbelievably anomalous.
	It's just unbelievable.
	And I got four, actually I've got four or five negatives.
	What is anomalous about it?
	It's an S-shaped crater.
	There's an S in the middle of the crater.
	You mean like a Superman symbol?
	Yes.
	Well, no, no, no, no.
	It's just like a line that was drawn.
	An S.
	A perfect S. And I ordered two frames from Apollo 8, one from Apollo 10, and two from Apollo 14.
	And I'm sending these negatives down to Texas to a really good lab, and I'm having about 28 by 10s blown up of these I got some of this stuff from, you know, Steckling's book.
	Well, I'll tell you what, Steve, again, if you get an 8x10, fire it off to me and I'll scan it, get it up to the website.
	Well, this crater, this S crater, is going to be as big as a 50 cent piece.
	And it's a sixteenth of an inch on the actual print.
	Alright, well, as I say, send it to me and we'll get it up there for everybody to see.
	I sure will, sir.
	Alright, Steve, thanks.
	The web is just great for that.
	I mean, it's just great for that.
	Instead of talking about things and my trying to draw a word picture for you, I can let you see it for yourself.
	That's why I love it so much.
	You know, you can put your evidence where your mouth is.
	That's why I don't know how this paper got off of this stuff.
	Unbelievable.
	Talk show host.
	Hiding saucer parts.
	Exclusive.
	Learn the truth behind our parts.
	Feds ready to swoop.
	You gotta read this article, I'm telling you.
	I just, I don't know where they get this stuff.
	They must make it up as they go.
	And then somebody, you know, I thought for sure it was a tabloid.
	And somebody writes to me and says, oh no, it's not a tabloid.
	Well, it's not.
	Then they made it up as they went.
	They could have called me.
	They could have called my network.
	But, uh, but no.
	So they just make feds ready to swoop.
	I mean, if that's not tabloid, then that's tabloid-like.
	I don't know what the difference is.
	Back we go to the land of the unknown.
	Talk radio unscreened.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air, top of the morning.
	Yes, sir.
	Mr. Bell, it's a pleasure to speak with you again.
	I'm calling from Galveston, Texas.
	Galveston, yes, sir.
	I was wondering, When you ever have Stanford Friedman on again, I thought he was a very interesting man.
	He absolutely is.
	Stan is a good friend, and we can have him on again really any time.
	Stan's always willing to come on, so I'll try and fit him in.
	Okay, thank you.
	Okay, sir.
	Take care.
	Galveston.
	Houston, Galveston.
	KTRH, Houston.
	The big one.
	We've got another big one coming in Texas soon, but they won't let me talk about it.
	They won't let me talk about it.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Antonio from Cherry Hills, Colorado.
	Yes, sir.
	I just wanted to say hi to you.
	Last time I saw you, we were at the golf course at Cherry Hills there, and we were watching Arnold Palmer hit one in on the eighth hole.
	No, you got me mixed up with somebody else.
	Is this Art Bell?
	Yeah.
	You sound the same.
	But I'm not the person.
	I've never watched Arnold Palmer in person in my life.
	You weren't down there when Nixon was there?
	No.
	Oh my gosh, I could have sworn that was you.
	I wanted to make a comment on the McDougal thing.
	Sure.
	You know, I think it's a shame.
	I think the girl's covering up for the president, and she's taking it in the gut, and she's going down.
	And I was the victim.
	I think she's a political prisoner, actually.
	Do you?
	Yes.
	Well, she looked a little like one, in chains.
	Man, they had her all chained up earlier today, I saw that.
	Had her shackled.
	She was once a particularly striking woman.
	She was a very beautiful woman.
	You can tell she's a little older now, but you can tell by her features that she was once incredible.
	Absolutely fine.
	I think it's sad that our government takes a stance like this.
	The thing is, she says she doesn't know anything about the Clintons.
	Now, if she did, why not sing and get free?
	Because she can take it in the gut.
	She can go down.
	Why would she go down for the Clintons?
	Would you do 18 months for the Clintons?
	I did five years.
	No, I said, would you do it for the Clintons?
	I wouldn't do it for the Clintons, no.
	See, so why should she?
	Well, to make some money out of it.
	Well, maybe she'll write a book.
	I think it's already in the offering.
	Yeah, right.
	I'm sure.
	No, the way I think about it, she says she doesn't know anything.
	Star says the accusations that he's putting pressure on her to get information about the Clintons are a bunch of baloney.
	I'm not sure that I buy the whole thing because I think she'd sing.
	Because I would.
	Would you?
	Hell yes.
	They tried to get me to sing when I was a political prisoner and I said no.
	And I went through and I did my time like she's doing.
	Now what do you mean you were a political prisoner?
	Political prisoner back in the 60s.
	Charged with what?
	Cocaine.
	Cocaine?
	Yeah.
	Did you have cocaine?
	They said I did.
	Did you?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	They said I was accidentally... So they planted the cocaine on you?
	They did.
	They planted it.
	Why?
	Uh, to set me up.
	For what?
	Because of what?
	They wanted to take us down back in the 70s.
	The people in the cartel.
	I thought you said it was the 60s.
	Well, this is late 60s, early 70s.
	Alright, well, thank you, but I don't think... She's a political prisoner, and I'm sorry, but you can hear stories a dozen like yours in the jailhouse, you know?
	Everybody's innocent.
	They plan it.
	They frame me.
	They frame me!
	Well, maybe they did, but for some nefarious reason.
	I'm not saying that it doesn't happen.
	People do get framed, but not as frequently as you would imagine.
	Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yes, I'd like to tell you about a diagram I have of a picture of the Sphinx, and there's a hidden door behind the left elbow and stairs going down.
	You have a diagram of a picture?
	Yes, a diagram of the Sphinx.
	It's called what?
	A Jed Pillar.
	A Jed Pillar?
	Yes, it's a tall pillar.
	something uh... there's an object in ancient egypt and they have never found
	it it called the jet power i asked that's right home it's called what jet
	power a jet
	yet it has been put off pillar uh... they had ceremonies and uh... festivals for raising
	the jet power and all-star said to have raised the jet power
	It's a tall pillar and it's hollow and it comes down to a horn on the bottom and it has four like capacitive plates on the top.
	And evidently they use these in groups of two and four and more.
	For what?
	This is the mystery.
	I believe they create an artificial electrostatic grid and the waveguide warps the grid.
	Well, that's as good a theory as any.
	I appreciate your call.
	I'll give the audience a little bit of a tease.
	Next year, I'm going to Egypt.
	Next year, I'm going to Giza.
	Next year, I'm going to the pyramids.
	Next year, I'm going to the Sphinx.
	That's one of the places that we're going to go on the next cruise.
	We're going to go into Alexandria, Egypt and North Africa.
	Then we're going to travel to Cairo, and we're going to go to the pyramids.
	It's kind of a secret.
	It's not even official yet.
	It's going to be.
	Actually, I have the itinerary of the next trip, the countries we're going to visit.
	We're going to go to every terror capital in the world, including Athens.
	I'll go and grab that thing, and after the top of the hour, tell you where we're going.
	But the one place that we're going that I really, really, really want to get to is the pyramids.
	I have become convinced.
	I really have, with regard to the pyramids, and something I want to get done in my life is to personally Personally see and walk into a pyramid.
	So, I'm going to do that next to you.
	Doesn't that sound cool?
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Am I talking to Art?
	Good guess.
	Okay, I was going to talk, could you elaborate more on the anti-gravity machine that you found in Finland?
	Well, I've got the story on it.
	It is a very convincing, credible story, and there's been a lot of scientific inquiry, and instead of elaborating on it right now, I'll wait until Mr. Hoagland gets here and he can tell you precisely about it.
	I can tell you this, that it has been documented that everything above this machine Uh, weighs less.
	In other words, uh, they had it down on one of the bottom floors, and as you went up through, it was a many, you know, a tall building, and as they went up through the floors, every single item, when this machine is on, weighs less.
	That, my friend, is indeed anti-gravity.
	Well, okay, and have you heard any more about, at the, at the end of the speech, or at the beginning where the head is at, there's supposed to be some, like a, like a chamber, Yes, I've heard a great deal about it, and of course we've had many guests on about that, as I just finished saying.
	Incidentally, toward the end of this month, Graham Hancock and his co-author, Mr. Buval, are coming to America, and we're going to have them both back on again.
	You know what I think would be really cool?
	Is if we could get Graham to come down, when we go to Egypt, if we could get Graham to fly down from London and give us a tour, wouldn't that be cool?
	I sort of thought of that recently.
	Now, I'm way out ahead of things here and I haven't even asked Graham about it, but I thought that would be particularly an interesting thing to do and to have Graham give the group the tour.
	I don't know if that could be done, but it's worth a shot.
	Anyway, we are indeed next year.
	And by the way, it's on the same ship we were on this year, the Mazdan, going to Egypt.
	And I'm going into the Pyramid.
	I'm going to get inside the Pyramid.
	I want to experience it.
	It's just one of those things that I want to get done while I'm here.
	If you know what I mean.
	Alright, we're gonna break here at the top of the hour and we'll be right back with more.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	Tonight we'll put all of the things aside.
	Give in this time and show me some affection.
	We're going for those pleasures in the night I want to love you, feel you, wrap myself around you
	I want to squeeze you, please you, I just can't get enough And if you move real strong, I'll let it go
	I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it All about to lose control, and I think I like it
	I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it And I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I want you
	We shouldn't even think about tomorrow We're Going For Those Pleasures In The Night
	We're Going For Those Pleasures In The Night We're Going For Those Pleasures In The Night
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	Yup.
	Good morning, everybody.
	We'll kind of cruise over the news here in a moment and cover what there is to cover.
	Our president wants a billion dollars for airline security.
	One wonders whether some of that money perhaps ought to go for electronic countermeasures to be installed in the 747s.
	A billion dollars is a lot of money and we're jumping on it kind of early since we don't know what brought down 800 just yet.
	One TWA checked that.
	One other pilot, an American Airlines pilot, this is an Associated Press article by the way, says he saw a missile zip by his airliner.
	Like that.
	Hundreds of miles apart, but still and all, when you think about it, there should not be missiles passing within sight or near the windshield of any commercial airliner, and here we've got a pilot saying that such is the case.
	Oh, listen, you've got to get to my webpage.
	There is this article written by this newspaper up in Canada, which I, you know, I called it, perhaps wrongly, A tabloid, but I'll tell you, somebody sent me a fax and said it's not a tabloid.
	But listen to the headlines.
	Those of you familiar with the story should know better than this.
	It says, talk show host hiding saucer parts.
	Exclusive!
	Learn the truth behind arts parts.
	Feds ready to swoop.
	And it's a long article.
	It's up on the webpage.
	Somebody sent it to the webpage.
	So Keith put it up there.
	I really think that you ought to read this and you tell me what kind of an article you think it is.
	They never consulted me.
	They never called me, of course.
	Talks about me and parts and parts and all the rest of it.
	But, I mean, come on.
	Sheesh.
	All the testing.
	I mean, it's gone to the Carnegie Institute in Washington.
	All the testing that we've done, every sort of legitimate scientist we could lay our hands on, every government agency we could consult, every rare metals manufacturer in the U.S.
	that might even manufacture something of this sort, and they're saying, talk show host, hiding saucer parts.
	Give me a break.
	Um, Iraq, uh, turns out we had a big operation up in northern Iraq.
	CIA did, you know, overthrow Saddam, probably get him killed or whatever.
	And so he got upset and chased up there and CIA guys had to split real quick and leave a bunch of good stuff behind that now no doubt Saddam has.
	And that's part of the reason why all of that happened, I am told.
	And that is rather interesting.
	Very interesting, actually.
	And I just wonder, we spend all these millions on CIA guys to chase around and train people to go do what we ought to just do.
	You know, if we're going to kill this guy, I said it earlier, then we ought to just kill him, you know?
	And stop with all this baloney.
	We're going to kill him.
	We're going to kill him.
	Fran, the hurricane, now not a hurricane of course, but leaving behind a billion dollars damage in North Carolina and flooding all over West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Washington, D.C.
	Flooding, flooding, flooding.
	A new hurricane is now born named Hortense.
	Hortense is hardly moving.
	Sitting threatening now Puerto Rico and my good friends are in the islands and I talked to a lady in the Virgin Islands At the beginning of the program and she says just raining like hell it may dump up to a foot of rain and the bad part of it is it's roughly just sitting and Kind of wobbling.
	It was going six miles an hour, then they couldn't measure any forward movement, and it's sitting and building and... So, that's not good.
	And it may or may not threaten the U.S.
	mainland.
	We're going to have to wait and see.
	I got a call from Harry Brown's headquarters.
	They said, AR, the night of the debates, how would you like to have Harry Brown on?
	I thought, what a cool idea.
	You know, Clinton and Dole will debate.
	I think the Election Commission Is going to meet the Debate People Commission, and they're not going to let Harry Brown in.
	I really doubt they're going to let the Little Texan in either.
	I think this year they're not going to.
	I could be wrong, and I hope I am wrong, but I think the odds are that they're not going to be allowed in, and so if that turns out to be the case, the offer is to have Harry on the show, and he apparently would like to be on the program, so I'm kind of all for it.
	I think it'd be kind of fun just to write down the questions that the candidates debate, and then throw them to Harry, and then we can all get an idea of what it would be like if they had allowed some other point of view, whether I agree with it or not, into the debates, and let Harry answer right here on the air.
	What do you think?
	Good idea?
	You guys like that idea?
	Should I do it?
	They are offering, and I'm honored they're offering.
	We're also talking a little bit about Susan McDougal.
	Somebody called up and said that she's protecting the Clintons' take in the gut for the Clintons, and I don't think so.
	She says she doesn't know anything that'll damage them.
	And my view is that if she did, she'd sink.
	And of course, there's a lot of disagreement about that, because a lot of people want to believe that she's got all these secrets that'll bring the Clintons down.
	Mike sends me the following, Art, if Susan McDougal sang, who would protect her?
	Well, to me, the obvious answer is, Mike, her song would protect her.
	And if she's going into a federal correctional institution, which I guess she is, right?
	For, what, 18 months?
	Isn't that what she got?
	Or is it more?
	Two and a half years?
	I forget.
	Whatever it is.
	She would sing to keep herself out of prison.
	Moreover, with regard to protection, her song would protect her.
	If anything, if she really did have all these terrible secrets, then once she was inside a federal correctional institution, her life wouldn't be worth two cents.
	Wouldn't be worth two cents!
	You know, if what you imagine to be true is true, that's where they'd get her.
	Because they'd figure, I mean, I'm just playing now with your theory, or conspiracy theory, if the Clintons would do her in, for what she knows, then once she was in jail, she'd have no protection at all.
	The other hand, if she sang like a bird, uh, she'd have all kinds of protection, because Starr wouldn't have put her in jail.
	And once she has, uh, sung the song, uh, then the song is there for all to hear, and there's no point in doing anything to her, because the song has been sung, if you follow me, Mike.
	So it seems to me, uh, with regard to what you ask, uh, who would protect her, her song would protect her.
	Alright.
	I want to give out the international number, and I don't do that enough.
	I know it.
	I keep forgetting it.
	We have got a toll-free international line.
	I don't care where you are in the world, you can call us toll-free.
	Really, it won't cost you anything.
	And I know a lot of people listen on the Internet, and a lot of people are able to hear our big 50,000 watt stations out of the country.
	So whether you're in Europe or Asia or South America, Central America, if you want to call us, here's how to do it.
	Call and get the AT&T operator or get the country code for your country and dial that and then call 800-893-0903.
	Let me say that again.
	Get the AT&T operator for your country or the USA direct access code number then dial 800, or have her dial for you, 800-893-0903.
	And that line is open all the time that I'm on the air.
	800-893-0903.
	893-0903. And that line is open all the time that I'm on the air. 800-893-0903.
	Back to work we go. Actually, it's not work.
	This is more like play.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Whoops, would have been.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Good morning, Art.
	Good morning.
	I think periodically a caller needs to call in and tell all the new listeners that you have a very strange sense of humor.
	Well, that's true.
	That really is true because I know that I get letters from people and you just, I mean, you wouldn't believe the letters I get.
	And so you're right.
	I do have a strange sense of humor, and people take things, a lot of times I say, dead serious, when they shouldn't.
	Okay.
	Well, enough said for that.
	I just thought we should remind the people.
	I have a bizarre sense of humor.
	Two quick points.
	First of all, as far as a new guest, have you heard of Dolores Cannon?
	Yes, I've heard the name.
	Okay.
	Basically, I pulled out a tape that I recorded back in the 1990s.
	She was on Rick Barber's show here at KOA in Denver.
	It was just before the Gulf War, during Desert Shield, I believe.
	The first part of the tape I didn't get to record, or the first part of the show, I got the last part recorded.
	and she spoke of it, she speaks about the
	uh... a lot about uh...
	uh... the quatrains from Nostradamus she said that uh...
	at that time she did not feel that uh...
	what iraq was doing or what we were doing with iraq was uh...
	leading up to anything in particular she said it would be about five or six years before
	uh... iraq would rise up again and that would be the beginning of the end
	as as uh...
	uh... she quoted it and uh... by god it's not the end of the world
	Uh, actually, the beginning of, quote, kind of like a World War III, is the way she puts it.
	Well, that, that... World War III would essentially be the end of the world, right?
	Right.
	Somewhat.
	So, but we had the Gulf War.
	That didn't end the world.
	Right.
	Uh, but at that time, oddly enough, uh... Wait, wait, wait a minute.
	Pause for just a second.
	and i have got a plan to handle the world
	okay now continue That reminds me, a great song that you might want to play, Eve of Destruction.
	Do you remember that song?
	Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, somebody.
	I know, I know, I couldn't think of the last name, or the name, but Barry is the first name.
	If you could get a copy of that, I do have a copy somewhere.
	So all you can remember is his first name, too?
	Yeah.
	Barry McGuire!
	Barry McGuire, you're right.
	Boy, I can tell you're an old DJ.
	Barry McGuire from The Destruction, you're right.
	Do you know that that is a record that AFRTS, the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service, banned?
	No kidding?
	Yeah, they wouldn't let them play it.
	Think of all the heat there is in Red China.
	Take a look around.
	I know.
	You know when that was out.
	And I was working at the time for a Japanese company on the island of Okinawa.
	And FRTS couldn't play that, so we played the hell out of it.
	We just played it all the time, just to stick it to them.
	Have you played it on coast?
	Never, but I ought to, huh?
	You ought to.
	It's just imperfect.
	Alright, I'll take that into consideration.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, that was Barry McGuire.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello there.
	Yes, sir.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Yes.
	Turn your radio off.
	It's off.
	That's good.
	You're on.
	Yes, I was just calling to say... You're going to have to get into your phone and speak up nice and loud because I can barely hear you.
	Okay, how's that?
	Better?
	Listen, I was just calling to say about the 800 flight.
	Yes.
	U.S.
	Navy 2, commercial airliner 0.
	Well, I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
	You have facts to go with that?
	WNBC ran a story Friday night that... Well, a lot of people have run stories, sir, but I've seen no absolute evidence nor admission of guilt, have you?
	No, and you're not going to see admission of guilt.
	All right, well then, I don't, you know, I don't mind...
	I guess discussing the possibility, but until there is evidence, to just call up and give that like a ball score is pretty flippant and not fair, and I wouldn't say the Navy or the Air Force or the Army or anybody else shot it down until I had some sort of evidence.
	I don't want to believe that.
	I'm not saying it can't be so.
	It could be that it was a mistake, but I'll tell you, if we shot that airliner down by mistake and we're now covering it all up, then God help us.
	I'm a truck driver in Greenville, South Carolina.
	Once in a while I'm able to pick up your program and I enjoy it very much.
	I'm a truck driver in Greenville, South Carolina.
	And once in a while I'm able to pick up your program and I enjoy it very much.
	I wanted to get more information about Major Ed Dame and the name of Courtney Brown's book.
	Cosmic Voyage.
	Cosmic Voyage.
	I'm probably going to have Courtney Brown on because Major Dame said a few things about Courtney, not awful, but not totally favorable, and so I thought I'd give Courtney an opportunity to respond.
	But you know what would really be cool?
	To have Courtney Brown and Ed Dame on together.
	Now, would that be cool or what?
	Yes, it would.
	One of the big reasons that I enjoy the things that you're talking about is twelve years ago I had a couple heart attacks followed by bypass surgery.
	I've had out of body experiences, near death experiences and then recently in the last six months I got interested in reading Well, thank you.
	There are a few people out there we have missed, but we'll get them.
	site by redfield if you ever had to either will back here at work on the
	truck no sir now yet
	that would be good there are alright well thank you there are a few people
	out there we have missed i but will get
	i uh...
	i'm a big believer in these near-death experiences and i am
	convinced i'm absolutely convinced that there is a life after death
	that what is within us
	and i'm gonna be very generic about this to the disappointment of many
	continues in some form
	and An afterlife.
	I do believe in an afterlife.
	And I will doggedly pursue guests and people who are doing legitimate investigation into these areas.
	I saw a Showtime thing the other night.
	It was very good, actually.
	That reminded me of the program we did last night, actually Friday night, Saturday, about vibration.
	About the fact that we are living in a certain vibration.
	In other words, all life is an animation and this dimension is produced by a specific, very specific vibration.
	Of course it was science fiction, And, um, but it was very good, and it was echoes of what we were discussing the other night.
	Very, very, very interesting stuff, and I'm going to try to pursue somebody in one of those areas.
	But, uh, near death, after death, it all may be pretty much the same thing, and it may be a dimensional sort of thing.
	And I don't want to get too specific, because I can't be.
	It's just a theory.
	However, it is one that I want to pursue in the greater pursuit of trying to find out if there is anything after this life.
	I can't think of any greater question we all are curious about.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	Hi.
	Yeah, about Saddam Hussein.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	You're saying we should dust him.
	I've got my own theory about this.
	Okay.
	When Bush first went in there, when we first went over there, Bush said, we're not going there to take out Saddam Hussein.
	Right.
	If we had taken out Saddam Hussein and destroyed his army, and him along with it, the Saudis and the Kuwaitis would have came up to us and said, thank you very much, the United States of America, now Yankee, go home.
	We wouldn't have a military presence in there anymore, or a political presence.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, I think that we've still got plenty of enemy left with Iran.
	Yeah, but still, we're there.
	I mean, your premise here is that we would have no enemy, so they'd say goodbye.
	No, I don't necessarily buy all that, and Iran would still be there, and probably whoever would take over in Iraq would not necessarily ultimately be friendly to us.
	So I don't know, look, I'm not saying we should have taken the army out totally, or totally Disabled Iraq.
	But in terms of dusting Saddam, yes sir, I think we ought to do that.
	I mean, instead of planning all kinds of CIA guys and spending zillions of dollars and all that baloney.
	Yeah, if you're going to kill them, kill them.
	Yeah.
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	Alright, thank you.
	Okay, one other thing.
	Yes?
	On that story about the guy who had these figurines carved by native of North American Indians.
	Oh, the heads, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, how did native North American Indians in those days know what a gorilla or a baboon looked like?
	Well, I don't know.
	I guess that's part of the whole thing.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	You answer that and you answer a lot.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	Heads.
	He said he didn't display them.
	I don't blame him.
	Imagine somebody coming over to your house and there's all these heads.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Yeah, hello.
	My name is Cletus from Arkansas.
	Hello, Cletus.
	Hi, I've got to tell you something.
	I'm sorry to bother you about this, but I have a crazy wife, okay?
	What do you mean crazy?
	Well, you know those chupacabras?
	Those little monkeys that eat people and things?
	Yeah.
	Well, she listens to your program more than I do because I work days and she works nights because she's insane, right?
	Well, I mean, that's what you say.
	Insanity is a matter of perspective, and maybe she isn't actually crazy.
	Well, I know.
	She's not crazy.
	She's wonderful, but she's a little out of touch sometimes.
	She refuses to go out doors now.
	Well, that's not very kind.
	Now, your wife, is she awake now listening to this?
	Yes.
	Well, I don't know.
	I'm not even at my home right now.
	I'm at a cousin's house.
	As a matter of fact, she won't even leave the house because she's afraid of those chupacabras.
	She said that they ate a car in Florida.
	Chupaphobia, I guess that would be, huh?
	It's not true, they didn't eat a car.
	Look, can you hold on?
	Yes.
	Alright, good.
	Stay right there, please.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	The Coast to Coast AM concert was held at the San Francisco International Airport in September 1996.
	the next video.
	Now don't you worry about my boyfriend, he's a boy who's named Matito Rino.
	I don't want him, couldn't stand him, he was always just so hot.
	Now, come on, what was the point of all this?
	What was I supposed to do?
	He was out of town.
	The two friends were so fun.
	Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1996.
	It is, and I have a man on the line with a chupaphobic wife.
	Chupaphobia.
	That's what it would have to be called.
	Afraid to go out of the house because of the chupacabra.
	Are you still there, sir?
	Oh, yes, sir.
	You are.
	Yes.
	Uh, in other words, she has actually terrified this beastie may get her and she really won't leave the house.
	Oh, I'll tell ya.
	My son is a board operator for one of your affiliates.
	Oh, that could be it.
	And he got her started on your show about, oh, a year ago.
	Mm-hmm.
	And now, now he, now she listens like it's a religion and she won't leave the house.
	She said, well, she made my son and her both carry mace.
	They both carry mace.
	I mean, she would use mace against a chupacabra?
	I don't know!
	Do you have any idea what the PETA people would say about that?
	I have no idea.
	Macing a chupacabra.
	The true depths.
	She said that it's like a little monkey and it eats cars.
	It doesn't eat cars.
	It scratched up a car down in Florida.
	Deep scratches.
	I didn't listen to that part of your show.
	I never heard that.
	Well, she doesn't leave the house.
	Ever.
	Daytime or nighttime, anymore.
	She quit her job, I'm not kidding you this.
	And it's more than just that, she's afraid of everything.
	I'm her number one fear now, and she's on this kick.
	And I wish you, because you're like the authority that I know of.
	I mean, I'm in Arkansas.
	There's no authorities of anything here.
	Well, there's Bill Clinton.
	I mean, he still carries some weight there, right?
	Well, you know, he may be a chupacabra.
	I don't know.
	But anyway, he doesn't carry any weight here in Arkansas.
	We don't even have... Well, this is lucky that we have a telephone.
	I wish you would tell her that it's safe to walk outside the house because she doesn't listen to her husband or her son or anybody else.
	Amanda only listens to Arthur.
	Amanda, it's safe to leave the house.
	Now, having said that, if she gets stupid, it's not going to be my fault, but I mean... If she gets stupid, I don't think she'll complain about it.
	Well, you've got a good point there.
	Amanda, it's safe to leave the house.
	All right, sir, I've got to run.
	Thank you.
	Good luck to you and your chupacabra wife.
	That's horrible.
	I mean, be afraid of leaving the house because of it.
	I mean, there is more of a chance of being struck by lightning than there is of being eaten by a chupacabra.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Morning, Art.
	Good morning.
	How are you?
	I am reasonably well, actually.
	Okay.
	I'm glad to hear it.
	Where are you?
	I'm in, uh, well, Gardena.
	Oh, alright.
	Southern California?
	Right.
	K-A-B-C land?
	Right.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, Art, I haven't, uh, been able to come in contact with the, uh, uh, Dreamland.
	Why not?
	I don't know.
	Why don't you try 840-K-V-E-G from, uh, Las Vegas?
	Yeah, I get that, but I, I... Well, it carries Dreamland.
	I can't get it that good, Art.
	Well, get a better radio then, because they've got a big signal down there, so that means you have a lousy radio.
	No, pretty good one.
	No, I can get you, but it kind of fades in and out.
	Well, I mean, of course it does.
	Eventually, KABC will carry Dreamland.
	In fact, if the KABC people down there would Be very, very nice and give KBC a call or write them a letter about Dreamland.
	I'm sure they would start thinking about it harder.
	Or get angry at me, one of the two.
	Yeah, right.
	Art, I wonder if you could give us maybe an update on the arts parts?
	Well, of course, there's extensive testing going on.
	They've been to Carnegie.
	I mean, do you have a computer?
	Yes.
	You do?
	All right.
	Well, go up to my web page.
	There's a big article up there.
	About arched parts.
	I mean, you won't believe it.
	It's entitled, Talk Show Host Hiding the Saucer Parts.
	You're gonna love it.
	So, go up there and take a look.
	Also, I will give you another update.
	And that is, the parts, incredibly.
	The parts found are now in possession of the Roswell Museum, have been tested, and they've done electron scanning microscope work on them, and there are 16 layers.
	Now, this is something Linda Howe said, but those photographs are now up on my website also.
	And so if you want to see, you know, it's amazing that the parts that were sent to me and the parts that were sent to New Mexico have that in common.
	Mine, bismuth, magnesium, and zinc are somewhat considerably more rare elements, but both of them layered.
	In a very similar manner, or actually dissimilar, but the layering itself is similar, and that is amazing.
	And so we've got those electron-scanning microscope photographs up there, as well as the ones of my parts, of course.
	So, my parts.
	Just parts.
	Arts parts.
	Whatever you want to call them.
	And you ought to take a look at that.
	This layering business is amazing.
	Call us toll free at 1-800-618-8255.
	Hold it, hold it.
	Tom, you're not allowed to give your last name on the air.
	Turn your radio off, Tom.
	That's number one.
	Okay, I got it off.
	And number two, please don't give us your last name.
	Just your first name.
	Tom in Nashville, right?
	No, Madisonville, Kentucky.
	Boy, I missed that one by a mile.
	Okay.
	Well, you're on the air.
	Okay.
	Proceed.
	Okay.
	Who am I talking to?
	A robot.
	A robot?
	To speak to Art Bell, say, Art Bell now.
	Okay, Mr. Art.
	I'm kind of interested in this stuff you've been talking about.
	Outer space stuff?
	What have you been talking about here on this show here?
	Well, how can you be interested if you're not sure what we're talking about?
	Well, because I'm a dumb old boy from Kentucky.
	Well, people in Kentucky can still think, can't they?
	Well, I'm trying to get to where you're at.
	Is this a lost satellite or what?
	What has he picked up here?
	Is it what?
	What kind of outfits has he picked up here that you've got in a museum?
	uh... what happens museum i'm not sure what you mean
	or art in talking about this
	discusses the people about what he found
	uh... joe you mean the uh... the parts
	Yeah, the parts.
	All right, well, I, look, just briefly, all right, fine.
	Briefly, and I mean briefly.
	What happened is, um, it's been, I don't know, six months now, ago, or seven or eight, whatever it is, long time ago, somebody sent me some metal, metal fragments.
	that are alleged to have been from the Roswell crash of 1947 or Socorro and actually that is one thing I don't identify and that is the actual crash site specified in the letters for good reason but they sent me all these metal pieces and we have had them ever since then we've been trying to determine what the hell they are the ones sent me were bismuth and magnesium bismuth is a very strange element And magnesium and layered.
	Nobody can duplicate it.
	Nobody knows what it is.
	And so forth and so on.
	So this has been ongoing now for months and months.
	And we've put it through every conceivable test except a few left that we have yet to do.
	And we have let contrary to what it says in that.
	Why would they write something like that?
	Talk show host hiding saucer parts.
	I picked that up earlier today, you know, out of the mail, and I looked at that and I said, oh my God!
	Look, it's a tabloid.
	But, you know, now I'm told it isn't a tabloid.
	It's tabloid-like, anyway.
	Talk shows, hiding saucer parts.
	Give me a break!
	Where would they get something like that?
	We have been so public with this, intentionally been so public with it.
	I mean, every result, every scientific result that we've received has been publicized, Up there for everybody to see.
	We've documented carefully every step we've taken.
	And you get a headline like that.
	Top Shows Hiding Saucer Parts.
	That's really insulting.
	So I mean, you know, in a nutshell, without giving you the specifics, which would take all night, I'm not going to do it.
	I'm not going to bore the audience to death with that.
	That's the gist of it.
	I've got these parts, and testing continues.
	So there.
	Alright.
	Um, by the way, this guy who wrote this article, sticking in my craw, this Nick Kelly.
	Guest column.
	Nick Kelly.
	Talk show host, hiding saucer parts.
	Nick Kelly.
	I'd like to talk to Nick Kelly.
	Nick, I'd like to talk to you.
	Just some expression you got there on your face, bud.
	I'm getting a lot of requests to repeat this, so I'm going to repeat it.
	It is a summary of the world.
	It's not very frequent that you can read something like this, or ever get something like this, and I will put it up on the web.
	Everybody's asking me to do that.
	If we could shrink the Earth's population to a village, A Hillary Village of about 100, not about, but precisely 100 people, with all existing human ratios remaining the same, it'd look like this.
	There would be 57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the Western Hemisphere, North and South, and 8 Africans.
	Now that puts it in perspective for you, doesn't it?
	57 Asians.
	Man, would we be a minority.
	Fifty-one would be female, forty-nine male.
	Seventy non-white, thirty white.
	Seventy non-Christian, thirty Christian.
	Fifty percent of the entire world's wealth would be in the hands of only six people, and all six of those would be citizens of the United States of America.
	Eighty would live in substandard housing.
	Seventy would be unable to read.
	Fifty would suffer malnutrition.
	One would be near death, one near birth.
	Only one would have a college education.
	No one would own a computer.
	When one considers our world from such an incredibly compressed perspective, the need for both tolerance and understanding becomes glaringly apparent.
	Isn't that cool?
	And a good friend of mine, Jerry Lewine, sent that to me.
	By email, and I thought you would enjoy that.
	Incidentally, my email address is artbell at aol.com.
	Artbell at aol.com.
	If you would like to send me a fax, you can do so by dialing area code 702-727.
	8-4-9-9 7-0-2 7-2-7 8-4-9-9 never ever more than three pages because it goes into memory first.
	Anything in excess of three pages is dumped before it prints.
	East of the Rockies you're on air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	I'm calling from San Antonio again and I want to talk to you about Flight 800.
	Yes sir.
	And you know there's always rumors that start I hear an echo in the background.
	So do I. That makes two of us.
	Just bear with it.
	Do the best you can.
	Okay.
	Anyway, you hear rumors, you know, after a tragedy like that.
	And I heard two rumors that I thought would have probably been followed up by some additional information.
	One rumor was that there was a man that was on the plane before it took off and he was told to get off the plane.
	And he was a Middle East descent, I believe they said.
	And they said he might have left something behind.
	And also, there were two men that supposedly rented a boat, you know, off of the... Okay, well, let's take one at a time, alright?
	If there was somebody on the plane told to get off, then somebody is utterly not doing their job, because number one, all the security occurs before you get on the aircraft, right?
	I think so, yeah.
	Yeah, the magnetic thing you go through and the scanning and the search of the bags, all of that occurs before you get on the airplane.
	So, if he was on the airplane already, he should have been cleared.
	And if they had to kick him off the airplane, then there should have been something that would have caused the authorities to hold whoever that was.
	Wouldn't that make sense to you?
	Yes, it would, but the thing is you can take on, you know, carry on baggage.
	Yeah, but they either look through or x-ray and more your carry-on baggage.
	All of it?
	And if they did find something that was in his carry-on baggage after he got on the aircraft, then the authorities should have held him.
	Okay, the other rumor I heard was that there were two men that rented a boat and they brought it back later after the explosion?
	Yes, the FBI has been looking into that.
	They've had people swarming over that side of Long Island, interviewing people, trying to get information about that.
	And look, they've said themselves they know more than they are telling us.
	Oh really?
	Oh yeah!
	They're not telling us the whole story.
	Let me ask you, if there are men that are suspicious, why don't they put out some composite sketches where, you know, they could help with, you know, witnesses identifying them?
	Well, I think the answer is they don't have, they haven't gotten to that stage.
	Thank you.
	They don't have anybody like that.
	Or they would have certainly done so by now.
	Or at least one would hope they would have done so by now.
	Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Hey, you know what?
	Every time I hear you say arts parts, I always think like arms and legs and gizzards and stuff.
	I always think, wow, they're on his web page.
	Interesting.
	Absolutely fresh parts.
	You know, the publishers that publish Amber Wolf, that lady you're going to have on, they have this other author.
	His name is Raymond Buckland.
	I would love for you to interview him.
	He wrote a book called Witchcraft from the Inside.
	Well, yeah, but don't you want to hear from Amber, who is a real witch?
	Well, see?
	There you are.
	Okay.
	Well... I mean, you can only do one thing at a time, and we're trying to move through all kinds of fascinating, different topics.
	I know.
	Next month sounds really fascinating.
	Yeah.
	You know, I was thinking... October always is.
	We go out of our way with the ghost shows in October.
	Oh, you know what?
	I have a prediction to make.
	I predict that scientists are going to find out that crop circles are made by suction.
	By what?
	Suction.
	Suction?
	Yeah, now you remember that, okay?
	Because you didn't remember when I predicted the coming of your parts.
	But, wait a minute now.
	If it was suction, it would have to be suction from below the earth.
	I don't know, but I would... I mean, think about that for a minute, because the props are absolutely mashed down flat.
	So, if suction is the thing, unless you're thinking of... Remember those, when you were a kid, you had those little dart guns?
	And it would... Stick to your forehead?
	No, that's not the impression I got.
	Well, suction then.
	Suction.
	The only way I could do it is down from below the earth.
	Well, you know what else I was thinking?
	What?
	For anti-gravity, wouldn't it be neat if you could have an anti-gravity bed?
	You know, and levitate in the air?
	Yeah.
	And then you shut it off when you wake up in the morning?
	Think what it would do for your back.
	I mean, you just flip it on, and you weigh about a quarter of what you would weigh.
	I mean, you wouldn't want to be totally weightless.
	Well, yeah, I know.
	But I've been trying to work it out.
	How do you get out of bed?
	Anti-gravity bed.
	My God, the... Wouldn't that be cool?
	Well, the... The possibilities are endless, and... Yeah, I was thinking you could lift heavy things, too, because, like, I was trying to lift my TV, and it weighs, like, 75 pounds.
	I was thinking, wow, if I had an anti-gravity thing, I could just press a button.
	An anti-gravity bed would make you a multi-billionaire.
	I know.
	Well, let's get started.
	Well...
	You know, I guess that they're now, presently, trying to develop and enhance the anti-gravity... I'm going to have Hoagland on about this.
	I know, I thought it was absolutely fascinating.
	Now, you were talking about having an anti-gravity vehicle, and you were wondering how you go back and forth.
	I would... You should have a fan.
	Well, a fan.
	Yeah, kind of like my magic carpet when I was a kid.
	Uh-huh, uh-huh.
	So, have I told you you're my favorite alien lately?
	I beg your pardon?
	I said, have I told you that you're my favorite alien lately?
	Because you are.
	Well, you're sweet.
	Thank you, dear.
	Good night.
	Alright, good night.
	That is our ten.
	We call her a ten for a good reason.
	Boy, that just sets your mind buzzing.
	An anti-gravity bed.
	Just imagine the applications, many of which I wouldn't even discuss on this radio show, for an anti-gravity bed.
	Nothing that would, of course, completely remove gravity, but anything that would take, say, 75% of the gravity away.
	The applications for that are totally mind-boggling.
	An anti-gravity bed!
	The next billionaire, that's, that's, that's who you'd ask.
	A billion dollars, you'd make a billion easy.
	We'll be right back.
	You're listening to Art Bell's Somewhere in Time.
	Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
	This is a replay of the song.
	bell somewhere in time.
	Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1996.
	Figure you need a little adrenaline.
	Just about this time of the morning, they do it.
	Pointer Sisters.
	And you know how I like them.
	Good morning, everybody, and welcome back.
	Close to go see them.
	I'm Art Bell, and I've got a word here about aliens in Vermont.
	It's a follow-up fact to that phone call of just a little while ago about the whole sky there.
	Art, I've spent much time in a small town called Danby, nestled here in the Green Mountains near Manchester, Vermont.
	I have yet to see an alien here, but I assure you, Vermonters are practical, freedom-loving, hunting-type folks.
	I'm sure they'd consider aliens game.
	Something to be slung over the car hood like a good deer catch.
	I don't think they'd want aliens hiding in their territory.
	If they didn't bring one home for dinner, they'd go to the other extreme and fight for alien freedom.
	Ha!
	Actually, the alien theory might explain someone we used to hire to cut our fields.
	We called him the Mad Mower because of the intricate paths he drew through the grass.
	A Vermont version of Crop Circles.
	Yikes!
	And then there was this just a little bit earlier.
	First it was La Chupacabra, the Gold Sucker.
	Then Dick Morris, the Toe Sucker.
	Toe Cabra.
	Now it's the Ground Hog Sucker, the Ground Cabra.
	On page one of the San Jose Mercury for the 9th of September, there's an article on how a Denver, Colorado company called Dog On uses a truck-mounted vacuum cleaner to suck prairie dogs out of their holes at, get this, 300 miles per hour.
	Perhaps these folks might take care of your rabbits and ground squirrels.
	As a follow-up to that, somebody has sent me an entire article showing the insidious machine, and the headline is, SLURP!
	There goes another prairie dog.
	Slurp!
	Mind you, slurp!
	You imagine traveling at 300 miles an hour through a tube into a net?
	Oh, man.
	I could just listen to this all night.
	I absolutely love The Pointer Sisters.
	I mean, listen to this excitement.
	Come on.
	We'll make it through the morning till the night.
	All of them daughters of a preacher man.
	Hi there, East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	This is Cindy in Kansas City, Missouri.
	Hello, Cindy KCMO.
	Yeah, I think your idea about having Harry Brown on is wonderful.
	The same night as the debates.
	Right.
	It's no wonder that they won't let him in the debates.
	He would show them up for the pathetic excuses they are for presidential candidates.
	Now listen, don't be afraid to say what you really feel.
	I won't.
	Well, I'm going to do it.
	I'm going to take them up on it.
	Why not?
	Great.
	Let me tell you a little story of something kind of odd that happened to me over the weekend.
	Okay.
	I was at home with my husband, and we had kind of an argument.
	It was raining outside, and I grabbed my umbrella, and I went down the street to a new fountain that they had just built.
	On the ground around the fountain, they have these bricks.
	But people could send money in and get their name inscribed in them, and then they inlaid them into the walkway around town.
	Kind of like the Hollywood sidewalk deal, right?
	Oh yeah, similar to that.
	I've got it, yeah.
	So I'm up there, and I'm walking around, and I'm reading the names, you know, and looking, and I came across one that said, in memory of Cindy L., and it said my last name.
	You found your own brick?
	I found a brick that was in memory to someone with my name.
	Did you see Rod Serling anywhere?
	Well, I kind of felt like I had walked into the Twilight Zone.
	Oh, that would totally freak me out.
	It was very strange.
	Is it still there?
	Uh, yeah.
	As a matter of fact, I had to bend down to touch it to make sure it was really there.
	I think I'd do some inquiry about that.
	Go tell the bricklayers that, you know, the reports of your death have been greatly exaggerated in Brickdom.
	I came home and told my husband about it.
	He didn't know that I had had that in there, did you?
	That's right.
	No more fights as of now.
	Well, thank you.
	If you're good for a year, the brick comes out.
	Uh-huh.
	I guess.
	Alright, thanks for the call.
	Thanks a lot.
	That's really weird.
	That's really weird.
	I wouldn't like that at all.
	In memory of?
	In your name in the brick?
	Very bad.
	Very bad.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning.
	Hello, David.
	Santa Clarita.
	Santa Clarita.
	Next to Magic Mountain out here in California.
	Oh, alright.
	I was calling about this drug thing and the government dealing dope and all this stuff.
	Yes.
	Uh, what do you think about that?
	Do you think there should be some kind of investigation, or do you think it's just conspiracy nonsense?
	And the reason I ask... No, it's not all nonsense, but I think it's not what the conspiracy nonsense people think it is either.
	So, you know, there's a germ of truth to it, certainly.
	But is the government massively dealing drugs?
	No.
	I'm not so sure, because Freeway Rick... I mean, I knew the guy.
	Who?
	Uh, Freeway Rick.
	This guy that got down in, uh, San Di... I think it's San Diego?
	on trial right now for selling dope and then he says the government is uh...
	gave him the drugs and gave him guns and all this stuff the government gave him drugs and guns? and guns, let's see,
	they had guns that they were that the contrafeit that i guess they were selling in the
	inner city and that kind of stuff well this sounds like a political explanation for a local
	crime But, you know, I think there's something to it, sure.
	Some pilots brought back drugs.
	The CIA probably had some operations going on.
	The DEA probably had some sting stuff going on.
	And so, yeah, in a sense, some of it happened.
	But are they massively dealing drugs?
	I don't think so.
	Well, I think some kind of investigation should be done on it, and I don't think Congress is doing anything about it.
	You know, I've seen an article where Guy who ran the money laundering operation for one of the cartels, for Escobar's cartel.
	And he was in there saying that he dealt directly with intelligence agencies and he made a deal where he shipped drugs to the Contras.
	Why would he ship drugs to the Contras?
	I don't know.
	It was about five years ago.
	You obviously don't because there would be no reason, I appreciate your call sir, but there would be no reason to ship drugs to the Contras.
	The Contras were down in Nicaragua.
	The story, so that you have it straight, is that the guns were taken down to the Contras, and then the drugs came back up.
	That's what people are saying, and certainly there was something to it.
	Certainly there have been various sting operations, even some dirty dealing, and no doubt some drug dealing.
	As a general policy, I do not believe the U.S.
	government is pumping, as a matter of policy, all the drugs that came into America.
	No.
	I don't believe that.
	I never have bought into that.
	Here's another one.
	Same category.
	Art.
	What do you know about U.S.
	Marines?
	30,000 of them in Australia, collecting weapons from the civilians.
	Heard about it on another talk show the other day.
	They didn't go into detail.
	Jerry and Ventura.
	Answer is nothing.
	It's baloney.
	There is a big gun controversy going on now in Australia.
	But where do these groups get this crap about Americans going down there to collect guns from Australians?
	That's bull.
	Absolute, unmitigated bull.
	And there's just a lot of this kind of stuff floating around, and the people responsible for it Ought to be hogtied, as far as I'm concerned.
	Because they make such wild allegations that the people have become numb to what really is going on and what should be looked at.
	30,000 Marines collecting guns.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yes, hi, this is Steve from Sacramento.
	Yes, Steve, how are you?
	Not too bad.
	I had a question on your reel audio that was on your Web page?
	Yes.
	I tried to download that.
	That's not accessible anymore.
	You mean the real audio player?
	Right.
	The one that they had on there for free?
	Yeah, I'll tell you where you can still get it.
	Where's that at?
	We have a bulletin board here in Pahrump, Nevada.
	Right.
	And I thought that it was still available on my web page, but if you can't get it there, call my, listen to me, call my bulletin board.
	Oh, okay.
	And you'll find it on there.
	All right.
	I had another question.
	You never talk about your boy very much.
	How old is he?
	Fifteen.
	Fifteen?
	How old is Ramona?
	Can that be revealed?
	I would want to ask her before I... I don't think that would be cool.
	She might not like that.
	I wouldn't want to find out about that tomorrow.
	I'm just curious.
	For one thing, she opens my mail a lot of times.
	I could get in big trouble.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Okay, I'll try it there.
	Yeah, because we change your page around so often that... Every day.
	We change it every day.
	Yeah.
	On purpose.
	I like the old one better than this one.
	Well, it'll keep changing.
	You know, you don't ever want something to stay the same all the time.
	It gets boring.
	It's easy and accessible to get around.
	You know what?
	It depends on what kind of browser you've got.
	I really like the new web page much better.
	Really.
	Yeah.
	You'll learn.
	Well, no, I'll learn, but it's just the point that Uh, you know, just a little bit.
	Also, the music... If you want to know, I like my webpage the way I like my show.
	Never the same.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's good.
	Uh, did you, uh, the music that you have for Dreamland, that's the composer that's listed there?
	Yeah, it's the, uh, the old Pleasure.
	Oh.
	All right?
	I gotta run.
	Thank you very much for the call.
	Yeah, but the webpage is a reflection of the program.
	And it's never the same.
	I don't want it to be the same.
	I don't want this program to be the same.
	Do you think I could come on here for five hours every night and do the same thing every night?
	Like a bunch of these guys do?
	Clinton-bashing five hours a night?
	No, thank you.
	I couldn't handle that, and I doubt the audience could either.
	So I don't.
	Well, at all times, do different stuff.
	Why not?
	I mean, radically different.
	I prefer that.
	And I think the audience does, too.
	Anyway, that's what we're going to do on this program.
	Others, you know, programs can do what they want.
	First time caller line, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	This is John from Brandenburg, Kentucky.
	Hello, John.
	What can I do for you?
	This is Art Bell.
	Yes, sir.
	You opened up a can of worms earlier.
	Sir, my entire show is worms.
	But yeah, that does just It made me pretty mad there about what I heard about Jimmy Carter not being invited to the convention.
	Well, I'm going to tell you what happened to me with Jimmy Carter about two years ago.
	When Jimmy Carter was going up for re-election against Reagan, I went to vote and Reagan was declared winner before I even cast my vote.
	In Kentucky?
	In Kentucky, well, across the whole United States.
	Well, of course, he had an absolute landslide, so I guess it was declared a winner.
	Well, it kind of made me mad.
	I couldn't even cast my vote, and this man was declared a winner, and Jimmy Carter, as far as I'm concerned, was one of the best presidents we ever had.
	Well, he was mostly a good ex-president, more than he was a good president.
	Well, yeah.
	He's been a very good ex-president.
	And why he didn't show up at the Democrats' convention, one can only conjecture about.
	Either he had nothing good to say, or they didn't invite him, or he didn't want to go.
	No matter what the answer is, something was radically wrong for him not to show up, the only living ex-president.
	Well, you got that right, buddy.
	But what upsets me, though, When Reagan got in there, this country went downhill.
	And everybody said, oh, it went uphill.
	Well, it depends on your point of view.
	Some people see a hill, some people see, you know, a valley.
	Well, I've seen the economy go way down.
	You did?
	I'm a coal miner.
	Oh.
	Coal miner.
	In the early 80s, when Reagan got in there, it went downhill.
	I'm talking about the high sulfur coal.
	The economy went down further than the mines you worked in, huh?
	No, I'm talking about the whole western part of Kentucky, southern Indiana, southern Illinois.
	And you think that was Reagan's fault?
	No, I ain't going to say that's Reagan's fault.
	I'm talking about Reagan was going through working on the unions.
	I was a UMWA.
	I'm still a UMWA.
	Well, then you didn't lose your job.
	You're still union.
	The only union that he really went after was the flight controllers, that I recall, and I thought that was utterly justified.
	They were supposed to go on strike.
	Remember that?
	They weren't supposed to.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Art Bell?
	That's a me.
	Well, this is me.
	Speaking about that old gentleman who called in and said that if President Clinton gets in again, The country's dead.
	The country's dead?
	Yeah.
	Well, you tell him that I happen to be a Republican.
	As far as I'm concerned, I would never vote Republican again, and it's the Republicans who are killing Uncle Sam.
	Really?
	That's right.
	Poor Uncle Sam.
	With their malicious, vicious gossip and the way they're attacking the President of the United States, it's disgraceful.
	And I have friends who are Republicans.
	Even more important in this day and age, it's utterly non-productive.
	In other words, it's so outrageous.
	It's more than outrageous.
	All the way from, oh well, let's not get into that, but it's disgusting.
	I heard one Republican say today on TV that there are 39 accounts against the President and they're going to have one more pretty soon.
	Well, bully for them.
	But they're the ones that are killing Uncle Sam.
	I've been around a long, long time, and I've never seen anything so malicious and vicious.
	Well, if you want to know the truth, I'm sick of both parties at the moment.
	I have been for a while now.
	I know, but this is... After all, the man is President of the United States.
	Well, what about the Speaker of the House?
	Now, the Democrats did a big job on him.
	They maligned him.
	Just beyond belief.
	So, it's both parties.
	It's both parties, but as far as the Republican Party goes, it's filth.
	That's what I think it is, filth.
	The older people, I want to tell you something, the older Republicans are getting turned off.
	I've heard it.
	Well, you listen to me.
	You listen to me.
	I'm the same way.
	I'm getting turned off by this myself.
	I don't like it.
	It's sick.
	It's sick.
	I'm 86 years old, and I've never seen anything like this in my life.
	Well, this is why we're mortal.
	You see, by the time you get to be 90, 86 to 90, you're ready to go.
	You throw up your arms.
	You say, Lord, take me.
	I don't want to be around here anymore.
	Is that the truth?
	Yeah, it is the truth.
	I think, thank you, the Lord prepares us for these things.
	The world continues to change, and it gets so disgusting, finally, that you're ready to go.
	Take me.
	I'm yours.
	Take me now.
	I can't stand another election cycle!
	You're ready to go.
	It's nature's way of getting you ready.
	No, I'm kind of fed up with both parties.
	She's right.
	You know, this attack from the right is dysfunctional.
	The attacks from the left have been dysfunctional.
	I'm pretty angry with both parties.
	And that's why you haven't heard me spending a lot of time Uh, raging about politics one way or the other.
	Cause it's just, it's a bunch of baloney.
	The nation is not going to go down the tubes or be destroyed if Bill Clinton's here for another four years.
	The nation is not going to go down the drain or be destroyed if it's Bob Dole for four years.
	But I'm not particularly excited about the prospects of either one.
	Or either party.
	We're politics in general.
	As far as I'm concerned, to be a politician these days, you've got to be a liar.
	And I'm not exactly sure when we cross that line, but I know we're across it.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Good morning, Mr. Bell.
	This is a socialist from Kansas City.
	That's a bunch of crap about Gingrich.
	They don't malign him.
	Gingrich comes out when Susan Smith's kids die.
	He's laying the left.
	When that baby was cut out of that mother's womb, Gingrich said, that's the ideal of the New Deal.
	He's a master at using words for manipulation.
	The Democrats have had an attack out on Gingrich since day one.
	Gingrich deserves that attack.
	He's the lowest of the low.
	Look, look.
	Saving us?
	Oh, please.
	look look at the only thing saving us from these republics a mishar
	well please you know it's a true people are going to elect dole
	just because they know somebody's got a protected from gingrich in those right
	wing that's gone what i say is not true
	What you say regarding right-wing nuts is true, and what I say regarding left-wing nuts is true, and they're both doing a terrible disservice to the country as far as I'm concerned right now, and I'm sick of both.
	We finally agree on something.
	Oh, we do?
	Well, we're sick of the Republicans.
	So then you agree halfway with me, you mean?
	Right.
	Hey, this Harry Brown, he's so full of it.
	You know, all he can do is say, government doesn't work.
	Well, I got a list for you, Mr. Bell.
	I could go on for the rest of the morning about how governments help the American people.
	Well, I wouldn't let you do that.
	No, you wouldn't, because you don't want the truth out.
	You people are... But Harry Brown ought to be allowed into the debates.
	If he's in all 50 states, which he is, then he ought to be allowed into the debates.
	I ought to be able to debate Harry Brown, then.
	Why?
	Well, I got... How many states are you up in?
	I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
	You're probably not even up in Missouri, are you?
	Or Kansas?
	Whatever it is.
	Hold on, we'll come back here.
	You're listening to Art Bell, somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
	Amen.
	Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
	September 9, 1996.
	I wonder if he really isn't.
	Are you in Missouri or Kansas?
	Missouri.
	Missouri.
	I thought so.
	And, uh, you're not registered in even one state.
	Harry Brown's registered in 50, so I will not let you debate Harry Brown.
	But, I will let you debate somebody on the far right.
	Would you like that?
	Sure.
	uh...
	stay there and i know you would stay there all right i hear is my offer i want somebody now on the far
	right any line all everybody else hang up stop calling
	don't call we're going to do a debate and uh... we're going to do it uh... with the uh...
	he had his ability careful we're going to do it with this man from missouri
	uh... calls himself the uh...
	what is it the uh... something social kansas city socialist is all you are
	on the socialist from kansas city are a lot of socialists from kansas city
	already outright uh... so if you want to be him
	uh... call now uh... any of the other numbers and uh... if i find a good
	active In the interest of ideological nonsense, I will allow the two of you to go at it and demonstrate for the entire audience how totally, without redeeming value, this whole race is presently.
	And we'll do that in a moment.
	So, if you're interested in that debate and want to take them on, now would be the time.
	right now.
	Well, okay, here we go.
	Now let's see what we've got here.
	On the right, from... Where are you in Idaho?
	Blackfoot.
	Blackfoot, Idaho, huh?
	Yep.
	That's alright.
	What's your first name?
	Ben.
	Is that with a B-B-E-N, Ben?
	Yep.
	Okay, Ben.
	You know what you're up against here, right?
	Yeah.
	Kansas City socialist?
	All right, here he is, the Kansas City Socialist, on the left.
	Are we ready on the right?
	Yep.
	Ready on the left?
	Yes, sir, I'm ready to go.
	All right, let's get it on!
	Hello, my friend, what's your name?
	My name's Ben.
	You know, the only people I feel that are going to vote Republicans are the wealthy and the dumb.
	Really?
	And why is that?
	Because the right wing is very sophisticated in their use of words.
	They use it as magic.
	They manipulate the unaware, the populace in this country that can't follow their shenanigans day in and day out.
	Floored.
	Can't even remember.
	The first problem is you're running on an assumption that all the right wing is rich.
	That's a baseless assumption.
	I know it's a baseless assumption.
	I didn't say that.
	I said that anybody votes for the right is either rich or dumb.
	The problem with you is that you believe that the government, Big Daddy, will take care of everybody, which it can't possibly do.
	The millions of people that you have in these United States, big government cannot individually take a single person I'll tell you, I don't know about this Big Daddy stuff, but I know that right after the Depression there was extreme, terrible poverty, and the only way to help these people, the old, the sick, the weak, and the ordinary, was for government to step in.
	Capitalism sure wasn't going to do it.
	The thing that pulled us out of the Depression was war.
	It had nothing to do with the socialist programs that pulled us out.
	You know, we were invented during that time.
	It was pure war that pulled us out.
	I've got news for you, buddy.
	There was soil erosion all through this nation.
	The banking systems, the financial systems couldn't hold up.
	They still wouldn't hold up if it wasn't government standing behind them.
	Then tell me this.
	Why is it that the big business sucks up to the Democratic Party?
	I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you?
	Why is it that the big business sucks up to the Democratic Party?
	Can you tell me that?
	Why do they?
	They're in power.
	All the CEOs and stuff at the big companies supported the Democratic Party during the
	90s.
	They had the power.
	That's the reason they got the money.
	What's that?
	They had the power.
	That's the reason they got the money.
	And I've got news for you, buddy.
	The Democratic Party was not the party of the left.
	They never have been.
	Thanks to these Southern Democrats, these Bo Weevils, we've always had a cadre of conservatives
	all throughout the Democratic Party.
	plot too, you know.
	Well, don't you feel?
	Not really.
	Look, the right has always been more, I mean, it's more founded in values.
	It's more founded in all those things.
	I mean, you take the Democratic Party, they stuck up to Hollywood, who have basically no absolute values.
	What do you mean they stuck up to Hollywood?
	There's a lot of people in Hollywood that are outstanding people.
	Look at Reeves.
	Uh, address the Democratic National Convention.
	He's a Hollywood man.
	How about Dean Martin?
	That fine man just died.
	He had bunches of children, raised a fine family.
	I can go on and on.
	There's a lot of people in Hollywood.
	One of the theme songs of the Democratic National Convention was the stupid Macarena song.
	Do you know what that song's about?
	It's about some girl that wants to cheat on her boyfriend although he's gone away to war or whatever.
	I mean, the whole party is founded in, like, immorality.
	Uh, Ted, I don't know.
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	You aren't talking about the democratic party, surely.
	Here's one thing for you.
	Why don't you try reading a little bit more.
	Keep yourself informed.
	Try listening.
	So now it's going to turn into a personal attack.
	I thought we were talking about the government.
	I want to tell you what the government will do.
	You know, one thing.
	The government stomped the Nazis.
	It stomped the communists.
	It did.
	Hey, you guys.
	Hold on just a second.
	not dollars talk about family guys she's
	mister bill and my uh... my debater here the democratic party
	back the family that Medical leave after Republicans and the right wingers, they're against that.
	Now you go tell me which party is backing family values.
	Look at Head Start.
	Look at nutrition.
	I live out here in the real world.
	I take my paycheck.
	I can't afford to buy the I don't get food stamps, by the way, and I can't afford to buy the vegetables and fruit my children should have.
	You know, we go to the grocery store and, well, we'll get hot dogs and potato chips this time, you know, because that day, that particular day, maybe we only have $5 to spend or $10 to spend, you know?
	You think that's anything spectacular?
	I've been going to college for six years.
	I've had a full-time job the whole time, and I've been going full-time college.
	I've been working my butt off and going to college, and I don't get any government assistance.
	I don't get any federal grants.
	I don't get any federal loans.
	So I suppose you think you put in all this study time and all this, and then you're going to go get a job.
	It's your money, right?
	You don't have to earn it.
	You don't have to give any of it to taxes.
	Do you know how much taxes I give?
	I give 32% of my wages go to taxes.
	32%.
	I'm a college student.
	I'm single.
	The United States pays less amount of taxes than any of the industrialized nations in the world.
	So what?
	What makes us have to be like them?
	What are they doing so right?
	Well, here you're crying about spending too much on taxes.
	Because I feel that that's my earnings.
	That's your earnings, huh?
	Well, I got news for you, buddy boy.
	If you would have been born in... Hey, is the government doing the work for me?
	Is it getting out there and slaving away?
	Is it helping me out?
	No.
	If you grow up someday to be a millionaire, you're going to think, oh my God, I got all this money.
	I made it.
	I earned it.
	It's mine.
	I got news for you, buddy boy.
	You aren't conjuring up this money out of magic.
	You aren't making money.
	What you're doing is using the system.
	And by golly, if you make money off the system, you deserve to pay something.
	Look, money comes from work.
	Period.
	If I do the work, and I earn it, it's mine.
	There should be no reason why I should have to pay it out to people like you or other social media people that believe that the government needs it.
	I don't think the government needs my wages and my money.
	Why should they?
	If people are in welfare, maybe if they're in a hard time, they can stand welfare for a couple of years, but then they ought to get out and try to find a job and work.
	It's not that hard.
	There are jobs everywhere, all over the place.
	What do you mean?
	This is the hardest working country in the world.
	Most of these poor people out here are working two jobs, sometimes three jobs, and they're doing it because the man won't hire them part time.
	No, the reason why they have to work two and three jobs is because half their money goes to taxes.
	You grocery shop for a family.
	My tax bill isn't anything compared to what I have to spend on food.
	Oh, no kidding, neither is mine, but if I have 32% more of my money, if we didn't have any taxes, that's 32% of my money.
	How much of that money that I'm paying out for food is going to the big boys, you know, so they can live on the big house on the hill?
	I don't know, but I'll tell you how much is going out in mine.
	These government workers, they aren't living on the big house on the hill.
	They're living in the little house.
	I grow $1,600 every month.
	With me?
	And do you know how much of that goes to taxes out of that growth?
	I bring home $800, maybe $900.
	And my growth is $1,600.
	$700 of my wages go a month to taxes.
	And I'm just working.
	I'm a college student.
	I'm trying to earn my pay.
	Wait a minute.
	This isn't real.
	$700 a month?
	How much money do you make?
	Huh?
	How much money do you make?
	I make, like I said, I grow 1,600 every month, about, and I get to keep about 900 of it.
	Are you including Social Security in that?
	Of course I am.
	And medical care?
	I don't have anything taken out right now, as far as... I mean, what do you expect?
	Are you going to have this money?
	What?
	When you get old?
	I pay into 401K.
	I do everything I need to do.
	But I also have to go to college right now.
	Most of my money goes to tuition and food, period, and rent.
	That's all I have.
	But if I had an extra $700 that they take out in taxes, if I had that, what more could I do?
	I could invest more.
	I could do lots of things.
	I don't think the government's going to take care of me.
	I can make better investments than they can.
	What do they do?
	They take my money and then they give it back to me at the end of the year with no interest earned on it.
	What kind of crap is that?
	What are you talking about, what kind of crap?
	Well, look, if I had that extra $700 a month, I could invest that.
	I could be making way more money a month than giving it to the government for free interest.
	That's not taking care of me.
	That's screwing me.
	And that's what big government is like.
	Society, okay.
	Number one, it's a complex problem.
	You might say, okay, give me my money now, give me my money now.
	Well, what happens when the boats come to your state, you know?
	And boy, you're in a jamble.
	Oh my gosh, I'm hooked on gambling.
	There goes your 401.
	Well, then when you reach 65 and you're laying out in the ditch, what are we supposed to do with the money?
	I'm not hooked on gambling because I have a morality.
	That's where you're all backwards and stuff.
	How am I backwards?
	I feel that I can take better care of my money than the government can.
	Period.
	That's it.
	I mean, I was the one that earned it.
	I'm the one that worked the job.
	I thought we already established that, buddy boy.
	You aren't creating money out of nothing.
	You're depending on our society.
	You're depending on the government regulating the banks and the financial institutions and providing medicine and all the other millions of things that government does for us.
	Oh, so you think that more government is better government?
	Is that what you're trying to tell me?
	Government is the only way that we can Yes, but for the savageness of these predators that are capitalists.
	We've had experiences with it in the past.
	You know that they used to work the child and talk about unsafe conditions.
	The fatality on the workplace would be tenfold if it wasn't for government stepping in.
	In some respects, yes, but not all respects.
	It started with Reagan.
	I earned my money.
	You know, I deserve all of it.
	I can take care of myself.
	It's society that we're supporting here.
	Family values, the village, the whole bit.
	You get it?
	That's what the election's about.
	Alright, listen.
	Alright, listen, you two.
	We're going to have to hold it right there.
	I do want you to hear this.
	Appreciate the debate, but listen to her words.
	Very informative.
	Did we ever get to it?
	Ah, this is a bad song.
	It really is, but actually it's very catchy.
	When I dance they call me magarina and my boys they shake their toes when I...
	They all want me, they can't have me, but they all come and dance to me fancy.
	Move with me, jam with me, and if you could I'd take you home with me.
	Unloco cuerpo a la gana, tengo cuerpo para ti.
	It really is, but actually it's very catchy.
	She's even got a cute sound.
	Then you gotta listen to what she says in the second part of the chorus where she gets to sing now.
	Listen to this and you'll hear what that guy was talking about.
	Now don't you worry about my boyfriend, the boy whose name is Idolino.
	I don't want him, couldn't stand him, he was no good so I...
	Now, come on, what was I supposed to do?
	Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air, hello.
	Yeah, alright, I'm just curious.
	Has your show been banned on the internet in China?
	Banned on the... No, all internet has been banned in China.
	Oh, all of it, huh?
	That's Valley Girl, doesn't she?
	Ease to the Rockies, you're on the air, hello.
	Yeah, alright, I'm just curious.
	Has your show been banned on the internet in China?
	Banned on the... no, all internet has been banned in China.
	Oh, all of it, huh?
	Did you know that?
	No, I didn't know all of it.
	I just thought some of it.
	No, all of the Internet, as of yesterday, according to a message I received before broadcast, Red China banned the Internet yesterday.
	What a bummer, huh?
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess you won't be getting no calls from any country.
	That's right.
	And I have, though.
	During the time the Internet was there, I've received calls from Red China.
	Wow.
	I got one from Shenzhen Province, which is the... I mean, before they made the ban, though.
	They just did that, didn't they?
	Oh, they just did, yeah.
	So I guess that's the end of calls from Red China, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, thanks.
	Sorry about that.
	Yeah, you're welcome.
	That's the way it goes.
	I've tried to tell people, Communist China and even Russia, they are not what you think they are.
	You know, Red China has not really changed.
	They're absorbing a lot of economic activity, as much as they can.
	But they haven't really changed.
	They're hardcore commies.
	And as for the Russians, they're trying to tell us they've economically and politically changed, and that's a bunch of horse stuff.
	It's just simply not true.
	And there in a nutshell, you know, those two guys arguing for the last 10 or 15 minutes, whatever time I left them on, was the basic argument that goes on on talk shows hours and hours and hours endlessly.
	The take from the poor and give to the rich versus the rich and we want to keep it argument.
	And that is the argument.
	You could put it on for 10 or 15 minutes.
	You could repeat it for hours.
	It's not going to change.
	From both sides, it remains the same argument.
	So I don't see any reason why somebody who's basically got something different to say, which is Harry Brown, has got something different for a change to say, can't get in the middle, and change the dynamics of the argument for a change, but they're not going to let that happen.
	They're not going to let that happen.
	And so that's why we'll probably have Harry Brown on the night of the debate, so I'm on here, let him answer.
	First time caller line, you're on the air, hello.
	Uh, Art Bell?
	Uh, yes?
	Well, you know, I called you, uh, Uh, home city, I suppose.
	Uh, Jacksonville, North Carolina.
	You're from Jacksonville?
	My brother is.
	Oh, well.
	He was sent there to build those barracks, you know, for the Marines in 73.
	Oh, yes.
	So he built his home And so all the other night, you know that storm, I was so worried about him.
	Yes.
	So he lost part of his roof on his home.
	Sorry to hear that.
	And, uh, he said so many people, you know, around him.
	He said, thank goodness he didn't have any trees.
	The trees were uprooted and all, and so, uh... Where, where, where are you, dear?
	Oh, I'm in, uh, Seattle.
	Seattle.
	And, uh, my name is Beth, and I wanted to go visit with him in October.
	Well, it ought to be all right by then.
	But do you think everything will be cleaned up by then?
	Well, I think it'll be all right in Jacksonville.
	There's a lot of North Carolina that's going to take a long time to recover, but Jacksonville didn't get the brunt of it.
	Yeah, Wilmington did.
	Wilmington did, right.
	Yes, but now we have another hurricane coming in.
	Hortense.
	Hortense, yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like a hurricane manufacturing machine down there between Africa, actually down in North Coast Africa.
	Yeah.
	Well, I have your book.
	Oh, you do?
	Oh yeah, it's beautiful.
	Well, I hope you enjoyed it.
	Well, I'm going to try to get to it.
	Oh, I see you haven't yet.
	Not yet, because I've had so many things going around here.
	Well, it's an easy read.
	You'll enjoy it.
	Yes, sir.
	And so I'll be calling you again.
	Please do.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	And enjoy Jacksonville.
	That's my birthplace.
	Actually, on Camp Lejeune.
	Marine Brett.
	I was in Marine Brett.
	West of the Rockies.
	You're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, Eric.
	How are you doing?
	I'm okay.
	Good.
	This is Brian.
	I'm calling from Los Angeles.
	Yes, Brian.
	I've got a question for you.
	It was probably about six weeks ago on your show, someone had mentioned, you had someone on, I can't remember who the guest was, that there was another incident, either shortly before or shortly after the TWA 800 flight, that a private jet Had been shot down also.
	That was Richard C. Hoagland, and he came back later and documented that.
	Indeed, it is true.
	Okay, was it the media that did all of this?
	Now, I don't know that it was shot down by a missile.
	They didn't specify that, certainly, but it did go down.
	And I've now got a story of another major commercial pilot who had a missile whiz by his cockpit.
	Wasn't too happy about that, I'll tell you.
	Right, right.
	Well, what I was thinking is, you know, with this whole thing of the media not letting us in on what's going on with TWA Flight 800 and... Listen, we'll have to hold on.
	My show is over.
	Okay.
	So I'm awfully sorry, but you get the honors.
	Do you know what they are?
	All right, I sure do.
	All right.
	Good night, America.
	Wait a minute.
	Where are you calling from?
	Los Angeles.
	Los Angeles says good night, America.

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