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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert in the great American Southwest.
		I bid you all good evening, good morning, and welcome to the best live overnight talk show in America.
		Also, the largest from the Hawaiian and Egyptian island chains.
		Racing eastward to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where I might it's raining like crazy right now.
		We'll get to that.
		South America North to the pole is definitely worldwide on the internet.
		I bid you all good morning.
		We have a great deal to do this morning.
		It's going to be open.
		And uh I'll be breezing through the news for you here in a moment.
		Got a really nice letter from Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia.
		I'm a big fan of your show, my friend Kurt of Kirkland, Washington.
		Um faithfully sends all your tapes and programs to me.
		My name is Kun Yen.
		I'm a Chinese born in Malaysia and been teaching mathematics to school students for 25 years.
		I have visited your beautiful country many times.
		I was there in May of June this year, May and June, so I missed the talk about the sea monster found off the island near here.
		I'm trying to get a copy of a newspaper here featuring the story to send it to you.
		Please continue with your fantastic show.
		I admire, get this, the American way of life, and how you pursue the truth, and how you can be so vocal in every belief.
		Because here in Malaysia, a person can be put in prison without trial for uttering a tenth of what you guys say on your show, especially part about the government.
		What a great country you have.
		And I have an autographed picture, which we're going to send.
		It would mean so much to me, and so forth and so on.
		That's Fu Chan of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
		And I thought that was kind of a nice letter.
		Now, there are two newspaper articles, one in the Gilmore Mirror, and I want to thank Russ Green for that, a wonderful article.
		He was along on the trip, and Russ wrote a really, really nice article about us and sent it to us.
		And there is an article.
		Look, let me begin by saying that you really need to go up to my webpage tonight.
		You really do.
		I call it a tabloid.
		and uh...
		and somebody uh...
		as somebody anonymously uploaded this article to my webpage from uh...
		from from canada i suppose and this newspaper called the times open uh...
		i think it's Is it in Vancouver?
		Yeah, Vancouver Island newspaper group.
		Ran this article, and I'll let you decide.
		Now, somebody sent me a facts and said this is not a tabloid newspaper.
		However, I will read the headlines to you here in a moment.
		You can read the entire article up on the webpage.
		But I'll read the headlines to you.
		Well, no, I'll do it now.
		And you decide, you tell me if this is tabloid style or not.
		At the top, it says, Times exclusive, NASA hiding aliens.
		Then the sub-headlines are, talk show host hiding saucer parts.
		Exclusive, learn the truth behind art parts.
unidentified		Feds ready to swoop.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Feds ready to swoop.
		Now, let me tell you, nobody talked to me about this article.
		Nobody consulted me.
		Nobody bothered to ask me or even bothered to try to contact me about this article.
		And I'll read you some highlights from it.
		You can read the entire article up on the webpage.
		Just keep scrolling down and you'll read the whole thing.
		But it is incredible, the things they have said in here.
		So as far as I can see, they made it up as they went.
		They may have listened to the programmers or something.
		But with regard to the things they said in here, my God, Feds ready to swoop.
		I don't know where they get this stuff.
		It's tabloid style.
		It may not be a tabloid newspaper, but it sure is tabloid style.
		You take a look.
		You let me know what you think.
		There are new photographs on the webpage.
		There are now electron scanning microscope photographs of the alleged Roswell pieces at the Roswell Museum.
		And that's the silver, copper, silver layered material, 16 layers.
		And we've got the photographs up there for you.
		I scanned those and got them up, I think, Sunday.
		And Keith has been very, very busy getting all of this up there.
		But he thought you would enjoy this article from Canada.
		Not a tabloid, huh?
		Okay.
		So there's all of that and a lot more.
		I can't even think of it all right now.
		It will occur to me as I go up on the webpage.
		Would definitely suggest you go up and take a look.
		It's www.artbell.com.
		Easy to remember, easy to get to, www.artbell.com.
		There is a wealth of new stuff up there for you.
		President Clinton wants a billion dollars for more airline safety, security, wants cameras, scanners.
		As a matter of fact, they've got a scanner which can look right through your clothes and see you butt naked.
		And, you know, it occurs to me that we might be asking for all of this a little early.
		I mean, what if a missile brought down Flight 800?
		How is the billion dollars going to help that?
		Maybe we ought to spend some of it on electronic counterwarfare measures for 747s and other commercial aircraft.
		So, in other words, why not wait for an answer on what happened to Flight 800 before going bonkers on spending money?
		And a little follow-up: this is all over the place.
		I don't know what it means, but weeks after the TWA-800 explosion and hundreds of miles away, get this, an American Airlines pilot claims he saw a missile pass his jetliner in flight.
		While the two cases were being investigated separately, report fits a scenario that is one of the theories under consideration in the TWA case that a missile brought down the jumbo jet, killing all 230 aboard.
		So here is a pilot who saw a missile go whizzing by his commercial aircraft.
		Now that would get your attention, wouldn't it?
		If you were sitting there trucking along, probably on autopilot, and there goes a missile.
		Too close for comfort.
		Iraq.
		Two more towns in northern Iraq have fallen with the help of Saddam Hussein and company.
		The story coming out now about what occurred in Iraq is rather interesting.
		That the U.S. had a facility in northern Iraq that was essentially CIA based there in northern Iraq.
		And Saddam knew it, and that's what made him go north.
		The CIA guys, once Saddam headed north, had to abandon their facility, probably shred what they could, left a lot behind, equipment and such, and get the hell out of Dodge.
		So we extended the no-fly zone in the south and hit him with missiles in the south in response to that.
		Now that is the story going around.
		I don't know.
		I still don't fully understand what's going on here.
		In other words, if we're going to all this trouble and expense to chill Saddam and we're trying to train other people to do it, why don't we just do it up front and kill the SOB?
		You know, that's my attitude about this.
		And I know it seems to many brutal, but I mean, here we are spending all of this money to have covert operations to train people in northern Iraq to kill Saddam or to depose him.
		And I don't know how you do that without killing him.
		So check me if I'm wrong here, folks, but if we want to kill Saddam, why don't we just do it?
		I've got a whole bunch of other stuff here, but I'll try to get to it slowly.
		there's some really really good stuff in here and uh...
		but i'm going to have to uh...
	ration my time or i'm going to run out of it Hurricane Fran has left her mark.
	As you know, last week we did a program and talked to all the people out there in the hurricane-affected area.
	I'm afraid we're going to have to do it again soon.
	The legacy of Fran is the Potomac overflowing its banks, double flood stage, incredible.
	West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, the nation's capital, all flooding, 22 dead, the death toll climbing, seven still not found, a billion dollars in damage in North Carolina alone, and now enter soon hortense.
	Hurricane, it is a hurricane now.
	They said, well, they didn't think it would become a hurricane.
	Wrong.
	It has.
	They say it's too early to determine whether it's going to pose a threat to the mainland.
	However, it certainly is posing a threat to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
	They say, Hortense, even at this early stage, may dump one foot of rain.
	I say again, one foot of rain.
	So I hope all of you are okay in the islands this morning.
	I think it likely that it will not hit St. Thomas, even St. Croix, hopefully too hard.
	And I'd love to talk to you.
	So if you are in St. Thomas or St. Croix, you're getting an early preview of Hortense.
	You might call me at 1-800-825-5033.
	Let me hold the line open a little while for our friends in the U.S. Virgin Isle and see what's going on with Hortense.
	Great.
	Another hurricane.
	Headed west, northwest, trolling along, gathering strength.
	And no doubt, the people in North Carolina, well, it's a little early to call it, but the people from Florida to, well, all the way along the eastern seaboard may have something else to worry about.
	It's a factory of hurricanes in the Atlantic.
	The drug use business continues to be in the news.
	And a new study has found that parental attitudes are part of the trouble.
	Parents who smoke pot probably will end up with kids who smoke pot.
	About 65% of those who tried pot when they were young think their kids will.
	Probably they will.
	Former Clinton political strategist Dick Morris says he didn't tell a prostitute that First Lady Hillary Clinton ordered a controversial review of FBI files.
	So he is denying that.
	And while we're on the subject of politics, is the election all over?
	The polls show men on dole about evenly split.
	Women, on the other hand, favor Bill Clinton by incredible amounts.
	I mean, just incredible Amounts.
	Now, you can say it's the abortion issue, and maybe to some degree it is, but it's certainly a lot more than that.
	Come on, this gender gap is a lot deeper than abortion.
	Because women voted in droves for Ronald Reagan, and he was anti-abortion.
	So, this gender gap is a lot more than abortion.
	And I will ask you about the gender gap.
	Why?
	But give me some answer, if you would, other than the abortion topic, because I think it's more than that.
	Oh, by the way, nobody has yet asked, so I will, what do you think this election year's October surprise is going to be?
	I like to in September every year prior to an election.
	Ask what you think this year's October surprise is going to be.
	So what do you think it's going to be?
	By the way, I've got a kind of a half of an idea here, and I want to know if you think it's a good one.
	I got a call earlier in the day from Harry Brown's headquarters, and while they are going to try every possible venue and avenue toward getting into the presidential debates, in the end, they think they probably will not make it.
	And so they said, hey, Art, on the night of the debates, what would you think of having Harry Brown on?
	And I've been thinking about that since I got the message earlier in the day.
	And I think that's a pretty good idea.
	In other words, generally make a list of those items debated by Bob Dole and Bill Clinton and submit them on the air here to Harry Brown.
	It would be very instructional to hear what he would have to say.
	So we could then imagine what it might be like had Harry Brown been allowed into the debates.
	And so I wonder if you guys think that would be a good idea.
	Going back for a second to this article, you've really got to go up there and take a look at it.
	Times, huh?
	Talk show host hiding saucer parts.
	Feds ready to swoop.
	Exclusive learn the truth behind art parts.
	Let's see.
	CFUN.
	CFUN broadcasts a popular program of American origin called Dreamworld.
	Well, of course, they didn't even get that quite right, but it's Dreamland, Nick.
	Dreamland.
	And let's see, it says, Bell started out in relative calm.
	However, the opportunities surrounding this topic, meaning the parts, have proved just too much, and Bell has gone off the deep end.
	Let's see.
	All this is fortunate for Bell, because he's at least partly in the UFO business, meaning getting these parts.
	But there is a problem, because the feds have to keep their conspiracy going.
	They'd undoubtedly swoop down, seize the goods, and then deny their existence.
	Therefore, Bell has dispersed his evidence to a number of secret locations.
	But aren't they available to accredited scientists?
	Obviously, you just don't understand the length of the government's reach.
	Then they go on to say lately Bell has been getting a little testy about the whereabouts of what have come to be called R Sparts, which means losing it on the air and yelling at skeptics to phone somebody else's show.
	His concern isn't surprising because given the fortune he could extract from them, yeah, right, he either doesn't like money or doesn't have them.
	Well, the pictures are up there for all to see.
	And many, many people have seen them and handled the parts, so that's silly.
	And as far as making a fortune, so far all they have done is cost me a fortune.
	So I don't know where they get this stuff.
	I have no idea.
	But to me, it is tabloid style.
	If it is not a tabloid, it certainly is tabloid style.
	Take a look at it.
	It's on the webpage, and you tell me.
	All right.
	Arn, I thought you would enjoy this.
	In a recent issue of Meat and Poultry magazine, editors quoted from Feathers, the publication of the California Poultry Industry Federation, telling the following story.
	It seems the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device.
	It's for testing the strength of windshields on airplanes.
	The device is basically a gun that launches a dead chicken at the plane's windshield at approximately the speed the plane flies.
	The theory is if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight.
	Well, it seems the British were very interested in this, wanted to test it on a windshield on a brand new speedy locomotive they're developing there.
	They borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken, and fired.
	Well, the ballistic chicken shattered the windshield, went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel, then embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab.
	The British were stunned, asked the FAA to recheck the test to see if everything was done correctly.
	The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and had one recommendation.
	Next time, use a thawed chicken.
	We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		Do you remember that day at Shawnee Day?
		When you first came my way, I said no one could take your place.
		If you get hurt, if you get hurt, by the little things I say, I can put that smile back on your face.
		When it's over.
		all right, it's coming up.
		We gotta get right back to where we started from.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From Mike in San Jose.
		Art.
		First it was La Chupacabra, the goat sucker.
		Then Dick Morris, the toe sucker, Toe Cabra.
		Now it is the Groundhog Sucker, GroundCabra.
		On page one of the San Jose Mercury for the 9th of September, there is an article on how a Denver, Colorado company called Dog Gone uses a truck-mounted vacuum cleaner to suck prairie dogs out of their holes at 300 miles per hour.
unidentified		Poor little guys never know what hit them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps these folks might take care of your rabbits and ground squirrels.
		Sincerely, Mike San Jose.
		Can you imagine that?
		Being down in the ground, contentedly trucking along in your hard, no doubt, very hard-worked hole, and all of a sudden, 300 miles an hour, and you're gone.
		What's next?
		East of the Rockies, you are upon the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello there.
unidentified		Hi, how are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from St. Thomas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in the Virgin Islands.
unidentified		Yes, lots and lots of rain.
		It's very, very windy.
		And, you know, I don't know who's measuring, but I can tell you it's buckets of water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know who's responsible for all these damn hurricanes.
unidentified		Oh, I don't know.
		Some crazy men and women coming down this way.
		Hortense for one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's Hortense's fault.
unidentified		Anyway, right now, you know, St. Thomas really has not recovered from Maryland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know.
unidentified		Because so many people have tops on their roofs.
		So everybody has buckets.
		And some people are sweeping out water.
		Some people are just...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, is the main body of the hurricane now past you and headed toward Puerto Rico?
unidentified		I don't know because I'm only listening to you right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only to me.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Last I saw, it was over you.
		It was over.
		It looked like St. Croix might be getting a bigger beating than you are.
unidentified		Yes, they did say that St. Croix was going to pass to the south of St. Croix, but it seems as though it's I wouldn't say it's a hurricane, but the winds are high and we are having lots of rain.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, at 80 miles an hour, it is, of course, officially a hurricane, though it's not right over you.
		So I feel so sorry for you folks.
		I mean, it's one eighty million.
unidentified		And you know, SBA has not been helping us much here.
		We're at the towers, the infamous towers that were really destroyed.
		And we haven't gotten the money yet, so we can't fix the roofs.
		And it's just continuous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be there with a bucket.
unidentified		Not as buckets.
		Everybody's sweeping out water.
		Some people are just, like I am, in one room, and I'm just letting the rest of it get wet, and tomorrow I'll just sweep it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		No, it's just rain.
unidentified		But listen, the rain is better than the hurricane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		All right.
		Well, listen, by the way, the last I heard, the hurricane was kind of stalled, which is really bad news because, I mean, it's almost just sitting there right now.
unidentified		Yeah, it's just sitting here giving us a lot of rain, but I don't believe it.
		This does not seem to be hurricane winds.
		It's nothing like Maryland or Pertha.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		It's just lots and lots of water.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Lots of water.
		All right.
		Well, listen, thank you.
		Thank you very, very much for the report.
		Take care.
		And now I will open the east of the Rockies for everybody.
		I just wanted to get a report.
		Lots of rain.
		Those poor people.
		Well, it's south of them and sort of beating them to death with the circulation, just bringing rain bands over them and sitting there.
		Nobody knows exactly what's going to happen.
		Hopefully it will not come to the mainland.
		But I have this awful feeling that it will.
		It'll build.
		It'll intensify.
		It will take aim.
		And it will hit the U.S. mainland.
		Probably.
		Total bummer.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Am I talking to you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if not, then I'm not sure who you are talking to.
unidentified		There's a time-lapse, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Only if you're listening to your radio, and when you get on the air, you're not supposed to.
unidentified		Right, I turned it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What I wanted to mention, you just read the, I guess it was a fax.
		I just came in on the program, so I haven't heard too much.
		I wanted to mention that I enjoy immensely your program.
		I listen to it just constantly.
		I'm up and about most of the time that you're on.
		In any event, about the gophers, you cut that short, I think you'd better mention that they're swooped up that tube at 300 miles an hour, but the inventor has a foam cushion to soften Oh, yeah.
		The purpose of the doggone thing is to transfer from areas transfer gophers from areas where they're not wanted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do what do they do for gopher heart attacks?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you got sucked out of a hole at 300 miles an hour, foam or no foam, you're going to have a heart attack.
unidentified		Well, the article I read, and I believe it was probably the same one that your person sent in, went on to say that the inventor of this scooper has been under quite a bit of fire from the animal rights group.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I'd like to interview him.
unidentified		Well, I think it's quite a thing because they are, he claims that most of the gophers arrive in the truck after their transport through the tube a little bit dazed, he said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little dazed.
		All right, now, so how do they prevent gopher pileup?
		In other words, if one gopher comes flying through at 300 miles an hour and hits the foam, I've got that part, and he lives, he's a little dazed or has a heart attack or whatever, then the second gopher fires at 300 miles an hour, how come he doesn't land on top of the first gopher at 300 miles an hour?
		Now, that would be a mess.
unidentified		Well, they go about the gopher colonies with this truck, and they're not scooping up gophers by the large numbers.
unidentified		They find a gopher trail or a gopher tunnel, and they put the hose down the tunnel, and they'll scoop one or two up, and then they have to spot them again, and they move the truck over to the next.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I mean, how would you prevent, for example, suppose there's a whole family, mom, dad, and three little gopher babies, all sort of in there together.
unidentified		You'll mention the offspring, the little ones, and that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if the inventor of this insidious machine, or wonderful machine, would like to contact me, I will interview him.
unidentified		Yeah, it's very interesting.
unidentified		But he's transporting a lot of these gophers where they ordinarily would shoot them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seems to me if you just left the other end, you know, like a vacuum cleaner, just blew them out the other end, you could almost put these gophers in orbit.
		Just blow them out into low Earth orbit.
		All right, well, listen, thank you very much for the call.
unidentified		How lonely here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going once, going twice, gone.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Yes.
		This is Mark in DeKeir, Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Oh, I'm fine.
unidentified		I was just listening to you talk about the possibility of having Harry Brown on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do you think of that idea?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On the night of the debates, assuming he is denied access, I could kind of make notes on the questions submitted to the candidates and then submit roughly the same questions to Harry Brown just to see what it would have been like had he been there.
unidentified		I think that's a good idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I like the idea.
		So did I. Unfortunately, he doesn't stand at much of a chance of winning.
		No.
		But I think he's probably the most principled person I've heard of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Even though I don't agree with all of his principles, there is no question about it.
		The man is principled.
		He's also, by the way, on all 50 state ballots.
		And that makes me think that people who qualify ought to get at least one shot at the debates.
unidentified		Well, I agree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So do I. I mean, that's why I thought it'd be interesting.
		All right, thank you very much.
		So maybe I'll do that.
		His headquarters thought it'd be a good idea, which I thought was very flattering.
		I mean, on the night of the debates, it gives him an opportunity to respond.
		And the trick would be to make note of the questions asked of the other two candidates and get Harry's answer.
		And that way you can sit back and imagine what the debates would have been like or how they would have been altered had the Libertarian candidate been there.
		The debate commission is about to meet, and I rather think that Rossbrow and Harry Brown are not going to be in, although they ought to be.
		I don't know what the criterion should be.
		Perhaps being on all 50 state ballots ought to qualify a person for at least the first round of the debates.
		I don't know.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Arbell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I listened to your program since May.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't do it one night by accident.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of people find me by accident.
unidentified		I had never heard of you until then, but your programs are fantastic, and I listen almost all the time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Well, they are different.
		I have three things to talk with you about.
		All of them are quick.
		This is Flight 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I have thought from the very beginning that this was probably a missile that brought down Flight 800.
		I talked to a friend of mine who was retired from the Air Force this last weekend, and the first thing he said when he saw me is, what do you think brought down Flight 800?
		I said, a missile, but I don't know what kind or where it came from.
		He said, I thoroughly agree.
		He said, Aviation Week and Space Technology, which is a magazine that you probably have heard of, is running a whole series of articles on Flight 800.
		And he says there was a National Guard air group practicing about 30 miles from where that fight went down.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I also had another article indicating the Air Force, the Army, the military is not cooperating with the FBI in the investigation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very suspicious.
unidentified		Not surprising.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
unidentified		Because they would protect one another until they found out exactly what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, yes, no, that one doesn't wash here.
		I mean, we're talking about 230 American lives in an airliner.
		No, that doesn't wash.
		If we did this by accident, then we need to come forward and damn well say so right away.
		And in not doing so, you have subverted the entire Constitution, in my opinion.
unidentified		Oh, I agree with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Period.
		I mean, not only the act itself, thank you, is bad enough.
		If it was an accident, that's horrible.
		But it is not as horrible As one federal agency, in effect, keeping it from another, I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but that would be truly horrible.
		That would mean the end of everything that we hold and cherish as dear.
		And that is, I don't know, the American way.
		You just don't do that.
		If there is an accident, you own up to it.
		You make changes so it never happens again.
		You don't hide it.
		If you indulge a cover-up, you know, then we're losing it.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		No, I guess we missed you.
		Too bad.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's me.
unidentified		Art, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, I got you.
		Listen, I want to start off.
		My name is James.
		I'm calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
		And I guess I've been listening for about two years now.
		I've got my friend Ryan here with me.
		We're in college here.
		And you've got to forgive me.
		I'm a little nervous, so bear with me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		I've got a sort of ultimate conspiracy theory here about the crop circles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what somebody did?
		Somebody sent me a fact a little earlier tonight and said they think crop circles are harp.
		They also think that Saddam Hussein is going to be found with red burn marks all over him in the middle of a crop circle in Iraq.
unidentified		This has nothing to do with people on Earth.
		I'm talking about, I guess, interplanetary conspiracy.
		Really?
		Just hear me out, and you can make your judgment.
		This is just a thought.
		You know, people read information on a point scale.
		Like, you read a book.
		It could be in a 12-point font or a smaller font.
		We read on a really small scale.
		These aliens apparently have done a lot of research on human beings and know somewhat of how we tick and how we ingest information, I would assume.
		But these crop circles are humongous.
		I don't know if you've ever been, actually been to one and seen it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, but I don't have to go to one, sir, to appreciate the dimensions of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got photographs on my website, as you know.
unidentified		Obviously.
		Okay, so obviously, you know, if you were to walk up to one and look at it, you know, it would probably not register too well.
		You probably couldn't digest a whole lot of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would not be particularly impressive on the ground anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got to see the totality of it, and that can only be done from the air.
unidentified		Okay.
		That's my point.
		Okay.
		That is my point.
		Who sees things from the air?
		Okay, we see things from the air in planes.
		Okay.
		That is not our natural realm, obviously.
		To what do we associate the sky with besides planes, and that's UFOs?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
		Yes, I see where you're going.
		Thank you.
		In other words, it can only be seen from the air, therefore, it was done from the air.
		And I think that is a safe conclusion.
		I don't think it necessarily leads one to the conclusion that it's done by saucers.
		But done from the air, yeah, I'd say you could draw that conclusion.
		Listen to this.
		I got this from a certain television station, and I won't mention which, in Hawaii.
		Hi, Art.
		I'm in the process of tracking down a very interesting guest for you.
		I've got a friend named Paul who lives part-time in Honolulu, part-time in Portland, head of a fairly large and successful company.
		He has a girlfriend named Anita.
		In the past, I brought up the subject of UFOs with both Paul and Anita.
		Neither of them knew enough about it to make an opinion or have an opinion.
		I suspect they probably thought I was a bit off-kilter.
		Recently, Paul and Anita came to Hawaii for a visit.
		Anita approached me with great excitement, said she'd met a woman I had to talk to, something about something had really gotten Anita's attention on the subject of UFOs.
		And this is her story about the woman.
		This woman currently works for the huge hydroelectric power company in the northwest, Bonneville Power.
		She apparently holds a major position there.
		The woman is a Native American and very much into Native American history, language, and culture.
		She can speak and read one of the ancient languages.
		The woman has also been in the special forces and apparently holds a high-level top-secret clearance.
		According to her, she was contacted by certain officials sometime in the past and taken to a crystal mountain somewhere near Palm Desert, California.
		She was shown some inscriptions in crystal that were very, very old and asked to translate them.
		According to this woman, they were written in a number of ancient languages.
		One of them was the Native American language or petrographs that she's able to read.
		She says they have been etched by laser and were holographs, very high-tech yet very ancient.
		The message translated simply, quote, we came to this planet.
		We seeded this planet.
		We will return, end quote.
		Anita says this woman is now ready to go public with her story.
		She can verify her credentials.
		I am in the process of contacting her.
		Unfortunately, I work for a mainstream local TV news department, which I will not identify.
		Should I take this to my news director, he'd ask me what I've been smoking.
		So when I contact a woman, I will give you the information.
		Take care.
		Love the show.
		Dick in Hawaii.
		Well, thanks, Dick.
		I appreciate that.
		We'll follow it up.
		I don't care.
		People already know I'm crazy, and I'll do this sort of thing, and that's fascinating, so I will follow it up indeed.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Larry.
unidentified		Mobile.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mobile, Alabama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're all right.
unidentified		Hopefully, we won't get the storm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully not.
unidentified		We tend to get them here, but we're in the Northern Gulf.
		Anyway, about an hour ago, you had a Dark Skies promo.
		You played as a bumper?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, not a bumper.
		No, sir.
		That's NBC advertising on my program.
unidentified		Well, now let me play ignorant for a moment.
unidentified		I work with an NBC affiliate, and that is an actual promo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's an actual advertisement for Dark Skies.
unidentified		That's a promo for NBC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not a promo, a commercial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're being paid to play that.
unidentified		Oh, okay, I see.
		Because I had not seen that as a promo on the network.
		No.
		But you're being paid to carry that.
		Yeah.
		Well, it sounds like probably one of a very intriguing show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is.
		I've got the first two-hour episode.
		Ah, ha ha ha.
		They sent it to me.
unidentified		Oh, you've seen it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Well, you can't fill us in, can you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
unidentified		You're sworn to secrecy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely so.
		I can tell you you don't want to miss it.
		And if you enjoy what's on this program, you're going to be in love with that program.
unidentified		Well, I can't wait.
		You know, a couple of weeks, though, we're going to be glued to the set.
		Of course, I'll be at work, but I'll be taping it for sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
unidentified		Thanks, Martin.
unidentified		We enjoy it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		Take care.
		Oh, yes, I'm very pleased about that.
		And I understand Fox has contacted us for advertising as well, so that's cool, too.
		And by the way, for those of you down in Louisiana and down New Orleans, Louisiana, we now are talking to two stations, WTIX and WSMB.
		The latest is WSMB, and now it's becoming kind of a bidding war for the show in New Orleans.
		So obviously, we're going to be back in New Orleans very quickly.
		If you get an opportunity, give WSMB a call and tell them you'd like to have the program.
		And we'll see which one gets it.
		And there may even be a third.
		So we're going to be in New Orleans in days.
		It figured.
unidentified		Told you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're listening to the best in late night live spontaneous talk.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
		Music by Ben Thede
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I might enjoy a little bit of the real thing.
unidentified		I don't know why.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess I'm like everybody else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I kind of like this dumb song.
unidentified		Now, don't you worry about my boyfriend, the boy whose name is I don't know.
		I don't want him to stand him.
		He was no good, so I...
		Now, come on.
		What was I supposed to do?
		He was going to pass me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		this is actually the real real market you have a good look at the top of the entities can't look at the other All right, here's a patch from Montgomery, Alabama.
		It says, Hey, Art, a man walks into an antique store and begins looking around.
		All of a sudden, he spies a huge brass rat in the corner.
		He falls in love with it instantly.
		So he takes it to the cashier.
		The old grizzly cashier says, the rat, eh?
		Yeah, how much, replies our friend.
		Well, five bucks for the rat, but $200 for the story, he replies.
		So the customer obviously says, well, I'll just take the rat, forget the story.
		He leaves the store, his precious brass rat tucked under his arm.
		Soon, he begins to notice that a few rats are following him.
		So he walks a few more blocks, and the number of rats behind him is increased.
		This continues until there are virtually millions and millions of rats behind him.
		Afraid of this mass following, the man runs to the sea and throws his brass rat in.
		All of the rats plunged in after it and met their watery, twitching deaths.
		The man ran back to the antique store, of course.
		The old cashier was chuckling to himself.
		So, do you now want the story?
		No, the man says, but have you got any brass Democrats?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hey, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling Trump?
unidentified		This is Bruce New Orleans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hi, Bruce.
unidentified		Yeah, we're picking you up tonight out of San Antonio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, well, then you may have heard me say, give WSMB a call, because they're probably about to pick up the show.
unidentified		I already did.
unidentified		I gave him a call last Tuesday, matter of fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		That's all I want to let you know.
unidentified		Keep up the good work, and looking forward to getting you on those station down here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you.
		It's coming in the next few days.
		We don't know who it'll be just yet.
		It'll be one of them down there, that's for sure.
		This is interesting, too, and I thought I would get it out to you just because it makes you think.
		If we could shrink the Earth's population to a village of precisely 100 people, now think about that for a moment, shrink the entire Earth's population to a village of 100 people, with all existing human ratios remaining the same, the village, Hillary's no doubt, would look like this.
		There'd be 57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the Western Hemisphere, North and South, and 8 Africans.
		That's it.
		57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the West, and 8 Africans.
		51 would be female, 49 male.
		70 would be non-white.
		30 would be white.
		70 would be non-Christian.
		30 would be Christian.
		50% of the entire world's wealth would be in the hands of six people, and all six would be citizens of the USA.
		80 would live in substandard housing.
		70 would be unable to read.
		50 would suffer from malnutrition.
		One would be near death.
		One would be near birth.
		Only one would have a college education.
		No one would own a computer.
		Wow.
		When one considers our world from such an incredibly compressed perspective, the need for both tolerance and understanding becomes glaringly apparent.
		I thought that was priceless.
		And I want to thank Jerry, who's a good friend of mine, for sending it along.
		Thank you, Jerry.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, Chuck from Amarillo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Amarillo, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my old stomping grounds.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what I heard.
unidentified		I was talking to one of the station operators down here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		18 glorious months, year and a half at Amarillo.
unidentified		I understand you're going to have Richard Hogan on.
unidentified		Is that correct?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		This anti-gravity business is absolutely stunning, and he is prepared to talk about it.
		So sometime, I don't know, maybe this week, he wants to do a little more research, get totally up to speed, and then tell us what's going on.
unidentified		I got a couple questions I'd like you to ask, if you could.
		All right.
		I was out in the backyard there playing with my telescope, and I was checking out the eastern quadrant of the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And have you ever been in an airplane and looked down and watched an airplane cross underneath you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Okay, well, this is what I saw in the moon.
unidentified		I had it really highly magnified where I could look down into the valleys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I followed this dot, and it started at the top as you were looking at the moon and went clear to the bottom, you know, on a direct course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean it moved?
unidentified		Yeah, all the way down.
		And I like to ask, do we have any satellites circling the moon now?
		And if so, how tight can they get the orbit?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I believe the answer to that is no, but I will ask Richard for you.
unidentified		Okay, I truly appreciate that because, you know, it was just a black dot, and it was, you know, I was more, you know, interested in the valleys and the stuff on the moon, you know.
unidentified		And I was thinking to myself, my, have I got a good picture here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like the interview I did with the astronomer the other day.
		People see things in telescopes and they don't talk about them unless you have a show about it.
		Then they talk about them.
unidentified		Well, there was something that surprised me.
		And it was, you know, it looked like it had direction in its mind.
		If it would have been a bird or anything of that nature, there would have been a zigzag pattern.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, look at the scale, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For something to be a black dot, assuming that it was in moon orbit or somewhere near the moon, for you to see it as a dot, it would have to be absolutely gigantic.
unidentified		I would imagine.
unidentified		And to be that deliberate, that's the reason why I thought, well, maybe I'm catching a satellite going, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Either that or maybe it was a fly or a little bug going across your lens.
unidentified		well i thought about that to that but it's a lot of the front and open I do indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I'll tell you, they used to say there was a direct line from the Arctic right downside of the mountains and dumping into Amarillo, and they were right.
unidentified		Well, that's right.
unidentified		Well, it's all flat between here and the North Pole anyhow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's Amarillo.
		Year and a half at Amarillo.
		It's actually kind of a neat place.
		It is, particularly if you like weather.
		You know me and my old friend Lynn, and we love weather, and Amarillo was just the right place for it.
		I mean, sometimes you'd go outside, you know, on a summer day when you're having a good thunderstorm.
		You'd look out, and at the horizon, which was some distance away, you would see this great wall of red moving toward you.
		And I say red because it was picking up dust and dirt as it would come.
		And it was like the right hand of God was about to slam you and slap you.
		And usually that's about the way it turned out.
unidentified		Screams Screams Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, I want you to hear this because a lot of people think I'm off my rocker and all wet.
		Sometimes I am.
		But Art as further evidence of the compass deviation phenomenon that you've been discussing on your program, listen to this.
		I've been boating in Southern California for about 40 years.
		I frequently go to a favorite spot on Catalina Island.
		A weekend or two ago, my wife and I traveled to the island from our normal harbor to our normal spot on the island, using the same boat, the same compass, we've been using for six years.
		As is my usual practice, I entered the normal course heading into the automatic pilot and off we went.
		Well, guess what happened?
		When we were about halfway to Catalina, a 21-mile run, I noted on the radar that the ship was not headed for our spot, but was heading about six degrees off course.
		After experiencing this, I thought of your comments regarding the magnetic deviations being experienced in other areas.
		Now, I tested this on the reciprocal course, in other words, heading back to the harbor from the island at the end of the weekend, and using my normal course from the island to the mainland, I would have missed the harbor entrance if I had not made a correction.
		Arn, I tell you, I've used this course for literally decades and have used it with this boat and this autopilot for six years.
		Very strange indeed, a ham operator.
		Lynn, thank you very much, Lynn.
		So, you know, there is something going on out there with regard to magnetic deviation.
		You're just not hearing about it anywhere but here.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Arbel.
unidentified		This is Mike from Grandview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Grandview, Washington?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got hum on your phone, Mike.
unidentified		Oh, I'm sorry.
		This is a used phone.
		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can I do for you?
unidentified		I've been listening to your show for quite a while now.
unidentified		I find it pretty interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, yes.
unidentified		I was wondering about those lights in the crop circles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Listen, I'm going to leave the line because that really is awful.
		If you heard the segment with Linda Moulton Howe, which ran Friday and Monday, in lieu of the live Dreamland, by the way, Whitley Streeber is going to be with us, I believe, on the 22nd.
		We've rescheduled that.
		Oh, as a matter of fact, let me tell you what's coming up on Dreamland.
		But first, let me just finish where I was going.
		She reported that we now appear to have a videotape of a crop circle actually being formed.
		In other words, actually caught on videotape in nine seconds with spherical lights above it, dancing above it.
		So I'm looking forward to that evidence.
		And finally, perhaps we are getting somewhere on this crop circle business.
		September 15th on Dreamland, Dr. Richard Boylan, author of Extraterrestrial Contact and Human Responses.
		September 22nd, Whitley Streeber, abductee, author of Communion, and he's got new books out now.
		He'll tell you about those.
		September 29th, astronaut Dr. Brian O'Leary, author of Miracle in the Void.
		October 6th, now October, we devote pretty much to ghostly things, as you may know, culminating in our ghost-to-ghost show on Halloween.
		So October 6th begins it with Richard Sennett, author of The Haunted Southland.
		On October 20th, Amber Wolf, The Witch's Witch, author of Elemental Power.
		As you know, I've wanted to interview a witch.
		Amber Wolfe will be coming up October 20th.
		October 27th, Dr. Philip Stander and Dr. Paul Schmulling, I believe it is, authors of Poltergeists and the Paranormal Fact Beyond Fiction.
		November 10th, Dr. Bruce Goldberg, author of Past Lives, Future Lives.
		November 24th, John Michael Greer, author of Paths of Wisdom, Principles and Practice of the Magical Kabbalah in Western tradition.
		So that's quite a lineup of what's coming up on Dreamland.
		Just thought you might want to know.
		Listen, you've got to get to my webpage tonight.
		No matter what else you do, you have got to get up there and see this article, which is in full, printed by this newspaper called The Times, which I understand is not a tabloid, though this is a very tabloid-y article, I think.
		They never consulted me, never called me, they could have.
		It says, talk show host hiding saucer parts.
		Exclusive, learn the truth behind art parts.
		Fed's ready to swoop.
		The entire article is there.
		I think you'll get a kick out of it so we put it up on the webpage.
		That is there, and so much more.
		Brand new on the webpage.
		Take a look.
		It's www.artbell.com.
		www.artbell.com.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		It is, yes.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Maja from Jacksonville, Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Yeah, I heard a while back you had an episode of Dreamland with Vampires about Vampires.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm really sad I missed that one.
		I would have loved to have called in and told you about the other side of the coin.
		Werewolves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Werewolves?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Werewolves are the other side of the vampire coin?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How so?
unidentified		We are sworn enemies of the vampire, actually.
unidentified		We don't like each other a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We.
unidentified		What do you mean, we, Tanto?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That means you are a vampire?
unidentified		No, I am a werewolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are a werewolf?
unidentified		Well, what you would call a werewolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's fine.
		I mean, we won't play with words here.
		You're a werewolf.
		What does that boil down to meaning?
		I mean, what do you do as a werewolf?
unidentified		Well, it's not much different than anybody else.
		It's just a cultural kind of thing.
		there's a little bit uh...
		physical difference but uh...
		between up and uh...
		uh...
		most humans but uh...
		what what is a werewolf Just pretty much anything like a human.
		We lead pretty human lives.
		The only difference is we have a little bit of heightened senses, and we can stay away from vampires during the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better sense of smell.
unidentified		Yes.
		And we can see a little bit into the infrared area.
		And like I said.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about your teeth?
unidentified		No, there's no teeth.
unidentified		Long teeth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about hair?
unidentified		No, no general hair.
unidentified		We just look like everybody else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, how are we to discern you from the average guy on the street?
unidentified		Pretty much you don't.
unidentified		That's the idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well werewolves though i mean they occasionally m they they don't think people in now after uh...
unidentified		Actually, it's vampire propaganda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vampire propaganda.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sort of a kind of a jealousy or a hatred or?
unidentified		Yeah, pretty much.
unidentified		It's the most they can do to get us found out or just basically get the general populace after us is a plus on their side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever been identified by a vampire?
unidentified		Actually, that's the interesting story because just about two, three weeks ago, a guy came up to a friend of mine in school and pegged me and two other members of my clan as werewolves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's bad.
unidentified		And he wasn't a vampire because he pegged three vampires that go to that school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess that's lucky for you.
unidentified		Actually, it's lucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you know that he won't go to the vampires and identify the werewolves?
unidentified		That's what scares me.
unidentified		This guy was not a vampire, but he was able to peg us and some vampires.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, think of his incredible bargaining position.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I have no idea what his game is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, you said school.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you in school?
unidentified		Well, not me particularly.
		Not you.
		I'm going to SECJ right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going what?
unidentified		I'm going to the Florida Community College at Jacksonville right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do they know they've got a vampire on board?
		I mean, I'm sorry, a werewolf.
		Excuse me.
		No?
unidentified		No, it's generally not a good idea to go going around telling everybody you're a werewolf.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't think the educational system there would respond well to news like that?
unidentified		No, I'd probably get a request for counseling.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have you considered that perhaps that might be a productive avenue?
unidentified		Well, I have actually thought about that because this kind of weirded me out when I found out about it because there's two ways you can become one of the breed, as we call ourselves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how does one become a werewolf?
unidentified		Well, you're either born into it or you have the spirit of.
unidentified		I don't particularly believe in reincarnation, but I guess, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well as we're about out of time so i need no which is the case with you were you born into a door no i uh...
unidentified		uh...
		uh...
		my soul is the fall of the uh...
		old werewolf i have uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		i have Yeah.
		Bummer.
		Listen, I've got to go.
unidentified		Well, I'm going to be sending you a letter soon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll definitely look forward to that, alright?
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take care.
		Probably a hairy butt, huh?
		All night radio.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from September
		9, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from September
		Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
		9, 1996.
		That don't bother me at all.
		Playing solitary to talk with the deck of 51.
		Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Thank you.
		That'll tell me.
		You're listening to Arkbell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Network.
		Tonight, an oncore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody.
		It's great to be here this morning.
		Another week of who knows what underway.
		Don't get to talk to a werewolf every day.
		That was kind of fun.
		I didn't know they were enemies of vampires.
		I have no idea.
		Now, live and learn.
unidentified		Smoking cigarettes and watching catch them.
unidentified		I don't tell me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Live, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, this is Lonnie from Wichita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Pretty good.
		I'd like to read you just one little short statement, if I could.
		It'll only take a few seconds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this your statement?
unidentified		No, it's not.
unidentified		No, it's not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whose statement is it?
unidentified		It comes from a man inside Time magazine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Inside Time?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, you must be a flat guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's hear it.
unidentified		Okay, maintenance chief Nico Juriak fiddles with the dials on his non-directional radio beacon.
		In a couple of hours, he will be a rich man.
		The two American operatives told him if he can quietly send Ron Brown's airplane into St. John's Hill.
		All he must do is to shut off his radio beacon.
		At the same moment, a decoy beacon is turned on at the base of the mountain.
		Oh, let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course, you know, that could be.
unidentified		The beacon switch is completed.
unidentified		The plane collides with the mountain, leaving only one survivor who was quietly murdered by the medi-vac flight surgeon on board the military helicopter sent to rescue Miss Shelley Kelly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that doesn't sound like Time at all.
unidentified		Check out Shelly Kelly.
unidentified		You'll find out I'm telling you the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, maybe, but it doesn't sound like Time magazine.
unidentified		Well, they kind of got the story jerked by the head of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so in other words, it didn't run in time.
		It got it cut off.
		See, all right.
		You know, don't quote some magazine like Time and read a story like that and then tell me that it never did run.
		That's such tripe.
		It's spirit.
		Now, who do you suppose had Ron Brown killed?
unidentified		I think the President of the United States, I mean, that is what you say, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The President of the United States had Ron Brown killed.
unidentified		Come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Give me a break.
		I'm so sick of that kind of stuff.
		You know, it is exactly that kind of stuff that I think actually helps President Clinton.
		People get so damn far out into ridiculous nonsense regarding political conspiracy that they actually end up helping the candidate.
		That's what I think has happened.
		I think it's to the point where people are at saturation with the Clinton bashing.
		Not that he doesn't deserve bashing in some counts, but it's gone way too far.
		And there's a sort of a saturation numbing effect after a while.
		And Bill Clinton did this, killed that person, killed this person.
		He'd be busy issuing orders to have people killed.
		Wouldn't be able to get anything else done.
unidentified		He killed all the people people thought he killed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I think it does a disservice to consideration of real issues.
		You know, we're never going to get to that.
		I mean, there are real issues to be discussed in this coming choice, and that kind of stuff just washes everything else away.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		How you doing?
unidentified		This is Al Carl from Northern California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Al.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
unidentified		I've been wanting to reach you for quite some time, and I'm surprised you got through.
		But anyway, I'm been listening to your show for well over a year now.
		And what held my interest were the Egyptian discussions on the artifacts.
		Yes.
		And your Bigfoot and your arch parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Anyway, about 25 years ago, I came into some artifacts myself, quite interesting.
unidentified		And at first when I purchased them, I thought they were, we thought they were Native American and purchased them from a very old gentleman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are these?
unidentified		Well, about a year and a half ago, we finally found out through my research of five years that they're actually Neanderthal.
		And what I have in my possession are Charlie's relatives or something.
		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
unidentified		Anyway, what I have in my possession are stone, weapons and tools, and heads that are carved in the likeness of half man and half ape.
		And some are baboon, and some are very gorilla and ape in shape.
		In form, that is.
		Like example, on one stone, there's an effigy of a very thick-browed person, which is a male, and its little nose and its large lips.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't people, when they come into your house and they see these things, I mean, how do you have them displayed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they in a glass case?
unidentified		No, no, I have them.
		What I'm doing is I've kept them in a rest for quite some time because I had no idea what I had until a few years ago.
		I thought that we thought they were Native American Indian.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know, but when people come into your house and they see heads and stuff.
unidentified		Well, no, I have them just stored away.
unidentified		I really don't have them on display.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's good.
unidentified		I really don't display them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't do that, yeah.
unidentified		No, no, sure.
unidentified		And the thing is that I've, on my research, in fact, over tonight on an archaeology show, they were saying how that if one single piece could be found in the Americas, the New World, it would change the entire evolution of mankind in the Americas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow, think of what responsibility you have then.
unidentified		Well, the thing is that I have a very large collection and I've made contact with a very famous auction house and we're going to hear back from them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to sell them away for profit?
unidentified		Well, the thing is I have so many pieces and they're just sitting here.
		And I was wondering maybe some of your callers might know because what's really interesting is that the gentleman you had on there discussing the Sphinx, I have some stone carvings that are shaped like the Sphinx.
		I have others that remind me of Amun Ra, the sun god.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you take some photographs and send me some photographs?
unidentified		Oh, I look do they?
unidentified		Sure, I've already got some of the sketches also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want sketches.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want pictures.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Send me pictures and I'll get them up on the web.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
		God, heads.
		Heads.
		And he's going to auction them off.
		Oh, man.
		I can just see that auction now.
		Sold to the man in the red shirt.
		Take your heads, sir.
		Change all of Western civilization.
		He's going to auction them off.
		Southeast, maybe, huh?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Steve from South Dakota.
		Hey, Steve.
		Say, you ought to get yourself a telescope, Art.
		Well, you really should get yourself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I really have a cool pair of binoculars that's a next best thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're really incredible binoculars.
unidentified		What are the power?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think they're 8 by 40.
unidentified		I got a pair of 16 by 70 Fujinans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well.
unidentified		And they're really something.
unidentified		But you need to get a telescope so you can see Hailbop and the moon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, look, if I just wait, I don't need to invest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hailbop is going to be pretty obvious pretty soon.
unidentified		Yeah, it is.
		Say, I got some negatives today from NASA of the moon, and I hope I get in them when Mr. Hoagland's on.
		But I got one negative from Lunar Orbiter 3, and it's a remarkable negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you see in it?
unidentified		There is an S crater.
unidentified		Remember I mentioned that to Richard when he was on last time?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do.
unidentified		And it sticks out, it's just unbelievably anomalous.
		It's just unbelievable.
		And I got four, actually, I've got four or five negatives.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is anomalous about it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's an S-shaped crater.
unidentified		There's an S in the middle of the crater.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean like a Superman symbol?
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, no, no, no, no.
		It's just like a line that was drawn.
		An S. A perfect S. Perfect, huh?
		A perfect S. And I ordered two frames from Apollo 8, one from Apollo 10, and two from Apollo 14.
		And I'm sending these negatives down to Texas to a really good lab.
		And I'm having about 20 8x10s blown up of these.
		I got some of this stuff from Steckling's book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what, Steve, again, if you get an 8x10, fire it off to me and I'll scan it, get it up to the website.
unidentified		Well, this crater, this S crater, is going to be as big as a 50 cent piece.
unidentified		And it's a 16th of an inch on the actual print.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, as I say, send it to me and we'll get it up there for everybody to see.
unidentified		I sure will, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Steve, thanks.
		The web is just great for that.
		I mean, it's just great for that.
		Instead of talking about things and my trying to draw a word picture for you, I can let you see it for yourself.
		That's why I love it so much.
		You know, you can put your evidence where your mouth is.
		That's why I don't know how this paper got off of this stuff.
		Unbelievable.
		Talk show host, hiding saucer parts.
unidentified		Exclusive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Learn the truth behind artist parts.
		Fed's ready to swoop.
		You've got to read this article, I'm telling you.
		I just, I don't know where they get this stuff.
		They must make it up as they go.
		And then somebody, you know, I thought for sure it was a tabloid, and somebody writes to me and says, oh, no, it's not a tabloid.
		Well, it's not, then they made it up as they went.
		They could have called me.
		They could have called my network.
		But no.
		So they just make feds ready to swoop.
		I mean, if that's not tabloid, then that's tabloid-like.
		I don't know what the difference is.
unidentified		Screams
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back we go to the land of the unknown.
		Talk radio unscreened.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Top of the morning.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Mr. Bell, it's a pleasure to speak with you again.
		I'm calling from Galveston, Texas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Galveston, yes, sir.
unidentified		I was wondering when you'll ever have Stanford Friedman on again.
unidentified		I thought he was a very interesting man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely is.
		Stan is a good friend, and we can have him on again really any time.
		Stan's always willing to come on, so I'll try and fit him in.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sir.
		Take care.
		Galveston, Houston, Galveston.
		KTRH, Houston, the big one.
		We've got another big one coming in Texas soon, but they won't let me talk about it.
		They won't let me talk about it.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Antonio from Cherry Hills, Colorado.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to say hi to you.
unidentified		Last time I saw you, we were at the golf course in Cherry Hills there, and we were watching Arnold Palmer hit one in on the eighth hole.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you got me mixed up with somebody else.
unidentified		Is this Art Bill?
		Yeah.
		You sound the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not the person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've never watched Arnold Palmer in person in my life.
unidentified		You weren't down there when Nixon was there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Oh, my gosh.
		I could have sworn that was you.
		I wanted to make a comment on the McDougal thing.
		Sure.
		You know, I think it's a shame.
		I think the girl's covering up for the president, and she's taking it in the gut, and she's going down.
		And I was a victim.
		I think she's a political prisoner, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, she looked a little like one in chains.
		Man, they had her all chained up earlier today.
		I saw that.
unidentified		They had her shackled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She was once a particularly striking woman.
		She was a very beautiful woman.
		She's a little older now, but you can tell by her features that she was once incredible.
unidentified		No, absolutely fine.
unidentified		I think it's sad that our government takes a stance like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But see, but the thing is, she says she doesn't know anything about the Clintons.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, if she did, why not sing and get free?
unidentified		Because she can take it in the gut.
unidentified		She could go down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would she go down for the Clintons?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, would you do 18 months for the Clintons?
unidentified		I did five years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I said, would you do it for the Clintons?
unidentified		I wouldn't do it for the Clintons, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, so why should she?
unidentified		Well, she'll make some money out of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe she'll write a book.
unidentified		I think it's already in the offering.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		I'm sure.
		No, you know, the way I think about it, she says she doesn't know anything.
		Starr says the accusations that he's putting pressure on her to get information about the Clintons are a bunch of baloney.
		I'm not sure that I buy the whole thing because I think she'd sing.
		Because I would.
unidentified		Would you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hell yes.
unidentified		They tried to get me to sing when I was a political prisoner, and I said no.
unidentified		And I went through and I did my time like she's doing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what do you mean you were a political prisoner?
unidentified		Well, I was a political prisoner back in the 60s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Charged with what?
unidentified		Cocaine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cocaine.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have cocaine?
		They said I did.
		Did you?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		They said I was accidentally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they planted the cocaine on you?
unidentified		They did.
		They planted it.
		Why?
		To set me up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because of what?
unidentified		They wanted to take us down back in the 70s.
unidentified		The people in the cartel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said it was the 60s.
unidentified		Well, this is late 60s, early 70s.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, thank you.
		But I don't think she's a political prisoner.
		And I'm sorry, but you can hear stories dozen like yours in the jailhouse, you know?
		Everybody's innocent.
		They plan it.
		They frame me.
		They frame me.
		Maybe they did.
		But for some nefarious reason.
		I'm not saying that it doesn't happen.
		People do get framed, but not as frequently as you would imagine.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
		Hello?
		Yes, I'd like to tell you about a diagram I have of a picture of the Sphinx, and there's a hidden door behind the left elbow and stairs going down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have a diagram of a picture?
unidentified		Yes, a diagram of the Sphinx with a hidden door behind the left elbow.
		Hmm.
		Also, I'd like to mention something.
		There's an object in ancient Egypt.
		They have never found it.
		It's called a jet pillar.
		I asked Zachariah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's called what?
unidentified		A jet pillar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A jet pillar?
unidentified		Yes, it's a tall pillar.
		They had ceremonies and festivals for raising the jet pillar.
		And Osiris is said to have raised the jet pillar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
unidentified		It's a tall pillar.
		It's hollow.
		And it comes down to a horn on the bottom.
		And it has four capacitive plates on the top.
		And evidently they use these in groups of two and four and more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For what?
unidentified		This is the mystery.
unidentified		I believe they create an artificial electrostatic grid, and the wave guide warps the grid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's as good a theory as any.
		I appreciate your call.
		I'll give the audience a little bit of a tease.
		Next year, I'm going to Egypt.
		Next year, I'm going to Giza.
		Next year, I'm going to the pyramids.
		Next year, I'm going to the Sphinx.
		That's one of the places that we're going to go on the next cruise.
		We're going to go into Alexandria, Egypt and North Africa.
		Then we're going to travel to Cairo, and we're going to go to the pyramids.
		It's kind of a secret.
		It's not even official yet.
		It's going to be.
		And actually, I have the itinerary of the next trip, the countries we're going to visit.
		We're going to go to every terror capital in the world, including Athens.
		I'll go and grab that thing, and after the top of the hour, tell you where we're going.
		But the one place that we're going that I really, really, really want to get to is the pyramids.
		I have become convinced.
		I really have with regard to the pyramids.
		And something I want to get done in my life is to personally, personally see and walk into a pyramid.
		So I'm going to do that next year.
		Doesn't that sound cool?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		Am I talking to Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good guess.
unidentified		Okay, I was going to talk.
unidentified		Could you elaborate more on the anti-gravity machine that you found in Finland?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've got the story on it.
		It is a very convincing, credible story, and there's been a lot of scientific inquiry.
		And instead of elaborating on it right now, I'll wait till Mr. Hoagland gets here, and he can tell you precisely about it.
		I can tell you this, that it has been documented that everything above this machine weighs less.
		In other words, they had it down in one of the bottom floors, and as you went up through, it was a many, you know, a tall building.
		And as they went up through the floors, every single item when this machine is on weighs less.
		That, my friend, is indeed anti-gravity.
unidentified		Well, okay, and have you heard any more about at the end of the Sphinx or at the beginning where the head is at, there's supposed to be like a chamber?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've heard a great deal about it, and of course we've had many guests on about that, as I just finished saying.
		Incidentally, toward the end of this month, Graham Hancock and his co-author, Mr. Buval, are coming to America, and we're going to have them both back on again.
		You know what I think it'd be really cool is if we could get Graham to come down when we go to Egypt, if we could get Graham to fly down from London and give us a tour, wouldn't that be cool?
		I sort of thought of that recently.
		Now, I'm way out ahead of things here, and I haven't even asked Graham about it.
		But I thought that would be particularly an interesting thing to do, and to have Graham give the group the tour.
		I don't know if that could be done, but it's worth a shot.
		Anyway, we are, indeed, next year, and by the way, it's on the same ship we were on this year, the Mazdan, going to Egypt.
		And I'm going into the pyramid.
		I'm going to get inside the pyramid.
		I want to experience it.
		It's just one of those things that I want to get done while I'm here.
		If you know what I mean.
		All right, we're going to break here at the top of the hour, and we'll be right back with more.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
		Tonight we'll put all other things aside.
		Give in this time and show me some affection.
		We're going for those pleasures in the night.
		I want to love you, feel you, to wrap myself around you.
		I want to leave you, leave you.
		I just can't get enough.
		And if you will throw, I'll let it go.
		I'm so excited.
		And I just can't hide it.
		I'm about to lose control and I think I like it.
		I'm so excited.
		And I just can't hide it.
		And I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
		I want you
		You shouldn't even think about tomorrow.
		You're listening to Arkbell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Good morning, everybody.
		We'll kind of cruise over the news here in a moment and cover what there is to cover.
		Our president wants a billion dollars for airline security.
		One wonders whether some of that money perhaps ought go for electronic countermeasures to be installed in 747s.
		Billion dollars is a lot of money, and we're jumping on it kind of early since we don't know what brought down 800 just yet.
		One TWA checked that.
		One other pilot, an American Airlines pilot, this is an Associated Press article, by the way, says he saw a missile zip by his airliner, like that, hundreds of miles apart.
		But still in all, when you think about it, there should not be missiles passing within sight or near the windshield of any commercial airliner.
		And here we've got a pilot saying that such is the case.
		Oh, listen, you've got to get to my webpage.
		There is this article written by this newspaper up in Canada, which, you know, I called it, perhaps wrongly, a tabloid.
		But I'll tell you, somebody sent me a facts and said it's not a tabloid.
		But listen to the headlines.
		Those of you familiar with the story should know better than this.
		It says, talk show host hiding saucer parts.
		Exclusive.
		Learn the truth behind arts parts.
		Feds ready to swoop.
		And it's a long article.
		It's up on the webpage.
		Somebody sent it to the webpage.
		And so Keith put it up there.
		And I really think that you ought to read this, and you tell me what kind of an article you think it is.
		They never consulted me.
		They never called me, of course.
		Talks about me and arts, parts, and all the rest of it.
		But, I mean, come on.
		Sheesh.
		All the testing, I mean, it's gone to Carnegie Institute, Washington.
		All the testing that we've done, every sort of legitimate scientist we could lay our hands on, every government agency we could consult, every rare metals manufacturer in the U.S. that might even manufacture something of this sort, and they're saying talks are almost hiding saucer parts.
		Give me a break.
		Iraq turns out we had a big operation up in northern Iraq CIA did to overthrow Saddam, probably get him killed or whatever, and so he got upset and chased up there, and CIA guys had to split real quick and leave a bunch of good stuff behind that now no doubt Saddam has.
		And that's part of the reason why all of that happened, I am told.
		And that is rather interesting, very interesting, actually.
		And I just wonder we spend all these millions on CIA guys to chase around and train people to go do what we ought to just do.
		You know, if we're going to kill this guy, I said it earlier, then we ought to just kill him, you know, and stop with all this baloney.
		If we're going to kill him, we're going to kill him.
		Fran, the hurricane, now not a hurricane, of course, but leaving behind a billion dollars damage in North Carolina and flooding all over West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Washington, D.C. Flooding, flooding, flooding.
		A new hurricane is now born named Hortense.
		Hortense is hardly moving, threatening now Puerto Rico and my good friends in the islands.
		And I talked to a lady in the Virgin Islands at the beginning of the program, and she said it's just raining like hell.
		It may dump up to a foot of rain.
		And the bad part of it is it's roughly just sitting, kind of wobbling.
		It was going six miles an hour, then they couldn't measure any forward movement, and it's sitting and building.
		So that's not good.
		And it may or may not threaten the U.S. mainland.
		We're going to have to wait and see.
		I got a call from Harry Brown's headquarters.
		They said, hey, the night of the debates, how would you like to have Harry Brown on?
		I thought, what a cool idea.
		You know, Clinton and Dole will debate.
		I think the Election Commission is going to meet, the Debate People Commission, and they're not going to let Harry Brown in.
		I really doubt they're going to let the Little Texan in either.
		I think this year they're not going to.
		I could be wrong, and I hope I am wrong, but I think the odds are that they're not going to be allowed in.
		And so if that turns out to be the case, the offer is to have Harry on the show, and he apparently would like to be on the program, so I'm kind of all for it.
		I think it'd be kind of fun just to write down the questions that the candidates debate and then throw them to Harry, and then we can all get an idea of what it would be like if they had allowed some other point of view, whether I agree with it or not, into the debates and let Harry answer right here on the air.
		What do you think?
		Good idea?
		You guys like that idea?
		Should I do it?
		They are offering, and I'm honored they're offering.
		We're also talking a little bit about Susan McDougall.
	Somebody called up and said that she's protecting the Clintons, taking it in the gut for the Clintons, and I don't think so.
	She says she doesn't know anything that will damage them.
	And my view is that if she did, she'd sing.
	And of course, there's a lot of disagreement about that because a lot of people want to believe that she's got all these secrets that are bringing the Clintons down.
	Mike sends me the following, Art, if Susan McDougall sang, who would protect her?
	Well, to me, the obvious answer is, Mike, her song would protect her.
	And if she's going into a federal correctional institution, which I guess she is, right, for, what, 18 months?
	Isn't that what she got?
	Or is it more, two and a half years?
	I forget.
	Whatever it is.
	She would sing to keep herself out of prison.
	Moreover, with regard to protection, her song would protect her.
	If anything, if she really did have all these terrible secrets, then once she was inside a federal correctional institution, her life wouldn't be worth two cents.
	Wouldn't be worth two cents.
	You know, if what you imagine to be true is true, that's where they'd get her.
	Because they'd figure, I mean, I'm just playing now with your theory or conspiracy theory, if the Clintons would do her in for what she knows, then once she was in jail, she'd have no protection at all.
	The other hand, if she sang like a bird, she'd have all kinds of protection because Starr wouldn't have put her in jail.
	And once she has sung the song, then the song is there for all to hear, and there's no point in doing anything to her because the song has been sung, if you follow me, Mike.
	So it seems to me, with regard to what you ask, who would protect her, her song would protect her.
	All right.
	I want to give out the international number, and I don't do that enough.
	I know it.
	I keep forgetting it.
	We have got a toll-free international line.
	I don't care where you are in the world.
	You can call us toll-free.
	Really, it won't cost you anything.
	And I know a lot of people listen on the internet, and a lot of people are able to hear our big 50,000-watt stations out of the country.
	So whether you're in Europe or Asia or South America or Central America, if you want to call us, here's how to do it.
	Call and get the ATNT operator or get the country code for your country and dial that.
	And then call 800-893-0903.
	Let me say that again.
	Get the AT ⁇ T operator for your country or the USA Direct Access Code number.
	Then dial 800, or have her dial for you, 800-893-0903.
	And that line is open all the time that I'm on the air.
	800-893-0903.
unidentified		800-893-0903.
unidentified		Back to work we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it's not work.
		This is more like play.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Whoops, it would have been.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Arn.
		Good morning.
		I think periodically a caller needs to call in and tell all the listeners that you have a very strange sense of humor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		That really is true because I know that I get letters from people, and you just, I mean, you wouldn't believe the letters I get.
		And so you're right.
		I do have a strange sense of humor, and people take things, a lot of times, I say, dead serious when they shouldn't.
unidentified		Okay.
		Well, enough said for that.
		I just thought we should remind the people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a bizarre sense of humor.
unidentified		Two quick points.
unidentified		First of all, as far as a new guest, have you heard of Dolores Cannon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've heard the name.
unidentified		Okay.
		Basically, I pulled out a tape that I recorded back in the 1990s.
		She was on Rick Barber's show here at KOA in Denver.
		And it was just before the Gulf War during Desert Shield, I believe.
		And the first part of the tape I didn't get to recorded, or the first part of the show, I got the last part recorded.
		And she speaks about a lot about the quatrains from Nostradamus.
		And She said that at that time she did not feel that what Iraq was doing or what we were doing with Iraq was leading up to anything in particular.
		She said it would be about five or six years before Iraq would rise up again and that would be the beginning of the end, as she quoted it.
		And by God, it's the same thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean of the world?
unidentified		Actually the beginning of, quote, kind of like a World War III is the way she puts it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well that World War III would essentially be the end of the world, right?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Somewhat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we have the Gulf War.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That didn't end the world.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		But at that time, oddly enough...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pause for just a second.
unidentified		I've got my endo the world horns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now continue.
unidentified		That reminds me, a great song that you might want to play, Eve of Destruction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that song from Barry, Barry, Barry, somebody?
unidentified		I know, I know, I couldn't think of the last name or the name, but Barry is the first name.
unidentified		If you could get a copy of that, I do have a copy somewhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all you can remember is the first name, too?
		Yeah.
		Barry McGuire.
unidentified		Barry McGuire, you're right, boy.
		I can tell you're an old DJ.
		Barry McGuire, Destruction, you're right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know that that is a record that AFRTS, the Armed Forces Radio and Television Service, banned?
unidentified		No kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they wouldn't let them play it.
unidentified		Think of all the hate there is in Red China.
unidentified		Take a look around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know.
		You know when that was out.
		And I was working at the time for a Japanese company on the island of Okinawa.
		And AFRTS couldn't play that, so we played the hell out of it.
		We used to play it all the time just to stick it to them.
unidentified		Have you played it on coast?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never, but I ought to, huh?
unidentified		You ought to.
unidentified		It would just be imperfect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'll take that into consideration.
		Thank you very much.
		Yeah, I was Barry McGuire.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hello there.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		It's off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on.
unidentified		Yes, I was just calling to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to get into your phone and speak up nice and loud because I can barely hear you.
unidentified		Okay, how's that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Better?
unidentified		Listen, I was just calling to say about the 800 flight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		U.S. Navy 2 Commercial Airliner Zero.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
unidentified		Do you have facts to go with that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		WNBC ran a story Friday night No.
unidentified		And you're not going to see an admission of guilt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, then I don't, you know, I don't mind, I guess, discussing the possibility, but until there is evidence, to just call up and give that like a ball score is pretty flippant and not fair.
		And I wouldn't say the Navy or the Air Force or the Army or anybody else shot it down until I had some sort of evidence.
		I don't want to believe that.
		I'm not saying it can't be so.
		It could be that it was a mistake, but I'll tell you, if we shot that airliner down by mistake and we're now covering it all up, then God help us as a nation, it'll tear this country apart.
		So I wouldn't be flipping about it, and I hope to hell it's not true.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm a truck driver in Greenville, South Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And once in a while I'm able to pick up your program, and I enjoy it very much, and I wanted to get more information about Major Ed Dame and Courtney Brown, the name of Courtney Brown's book, Cosmic Voyage.
unidentified		Cosmic Voyage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm probably going to have Courtney Brown on because Major Dame said a few things about Courtney, not awful, but not totally favorable, and so I thought I'd give Courtney an opportunity to respond.
		But you know what would really be cool?
		To have Courtney Brown and Ed Dames on together.
		Now, would that be cool or what?
unidentified		Yes, it would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably wouldn't happen, though.
unidentified		One of the big reasons that I enjoy the things that you're talking about is 12 years ago I had a couple heart attacks followed by bypass surgery.
		And I've had out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences.
		And then recently in the last six months, I got interested in reading the Celestine Prophecy and the Tenth Insight by Redfield.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Have you ever had either he or his wife on your show?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not yet.
unidentified		That would be good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		There are a few people out there we have missed.
unidentified		But we'll get them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am a big believer in these near-death experiences, and I am convinced.
		I am absolutely convinced that there is a life after death, that what is within us, and I'm going to be very generic about this to the disappointment of many, continues in some form.
		An afterlife.
		I do believe in an afterlife.
		And I will doggedly pursue guests and people who are doing legitimate investigation into these areas.
		I saw a Showtime thing the other night.
		It was very good, actually, that reminded me of the program we did last night, actually Friday night, Saturday, about vibration.
		About the fact that we are living in a certain vibration.
		In other words, all life is an animation.
		And this dimension is produced by a specific, very specific vibration.
		Of course, it was science fiction, but it was very good, and it was echoes of what we were discussing the other night.
		Very, very, very interesting stuff, and I'm going to try to pursue somebody in one of those areas.
		But near death, after death, it all may be pretty much the same thing, and it may be a dimensional sort of thing.
		And I don't want to get too specific, because I can't be.
unidentified		It's just a theory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		However, it is one that I want to pursue in the greater pursuit of trying to find out if there is anything after this life.
		I can't think of any greater question we all are curious about.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the or hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, about Saddam Hussein.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay.
		You're saying we should dust him.
		I've got my own theory about this.
		When Bush first went in there, when we first went over there, Bush said, we're not going there to take out Saddam Hussein.
		Right.
		Okay.
		If we'd have taken out Saddam Hussein and destroyed his army and him along with it, the Saudis and the Kuwaitis would have came up to us and said, thank you very much, the United States of America, now Yankee, go home.
		We wouldn't have a military presence in there anymore or a political presence.
		What do you think about that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that we've still got plenty of enemy left with Iran.
unidentified		Yeah, but still, we're there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, your premise here is that we would have no enemy, so they'd say goodbye.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I don't necessarily buy all that, and Iran would still be there, and probably whoever would take over in Iraq would not necessarily ultimately be friendly to us.
		So I don't know.
		Look, I'm not saying we should have taken the army out totally or totally disabled Iraq.
		But in terms of dusting Saddam, yes, sir, I think we ought to do that.
		I mean, instead of planning all kinds of CIA guys and spending bazillions of dollars and all that.
unidentified		Then they're being bungled.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you're going to kill them, kill them.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Okay, one other thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		On that story about the guy who had these figurines carved by native North American Indians.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the heads, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, how did native North American Indians in those days know what a gorilla or a baboon looked like?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's part of the whole thing.
unidentified		Well, I'm just saying.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You answer that, and you answer a lot.
		Thank you.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Heads.
		He said he didn't display them.
		I don't blame him.
		Can you imagine somebody coming over to your house and there's all these heads?
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, hello.
unidentified		My name is Cletus from Arkansas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Cletus.
unidentified		Hi, I've got this.
		Okay, I've got to tell you something.
		I'm sorry to bother you about this, but I have a crazy wife, okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean crazy?
unidentified		Well, you know those chupacabras?
unidentified		Those chupa, those little monkeys that eat people and things?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
unidentified		Well, we listen to your pro well, she listens to your program more than I because I work days and stuff all night because she's insane, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that's what you say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Insanity is a matter of perspective, and maybe she isn't actually crazy.
unidentified		Well, I know.
		She's not crazy.
		She's wonderful, but she's a little out of touch sometimes.
		She refuses to go outdoors now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not very kind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, your wife, is she awake now listening to this?
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, I don't know.
		I'm not even at my home right now.
		I'm at a cousin's house.
		As a matter of fact, she won't even leave the house because she's afraid of those chupacabras.
		Really?
		She said that they ate a car in Florida.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		super phobia i guess that would be her and i think i have a lot of you Look, can you hold on?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Stay right there, please.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkbell Somewhere in Time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
		Music
		No, what was I supposed to do?
		He was on a pass.
		His two friends were so fine.
		Que tu cuerpo es para dar la alegría y cosa buena.
		Que tu cuerpo es para dar la alegría y cosa buena.
		Que tu cuerpo es para dar la alegría y cosa buena.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and I have a man on the line with a chupophobic wife.
		Chupophobia.
		That's what it would have to be called.
		Afraid to go out of the house because of the chupacabra.
		Are you still there, sir?
unidentified		I'm yet, sir.
		You are?
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, she has actually terrified this beastie may get her, and she really won't leave the house.
unidentified		Oh, I'll tell you, my son is a board operator for one of your affiliates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that could be it.
unidentified		And he got her started on your show about, oh, a year ago.
		And now she listens like it's a religion and she won't leave the house.
		She said, well, she made my son and her both carry mace.
		They both carry mace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, she would use mace against the chupacabra.
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea what the PETA people would say about that?
unidentified		I have no idea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Macing a chupacabra.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The true depths.
unidentified		She said, well, she said that it's like a little monkey and it eats cars and it eats, like, cars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It scratched up a car down in Florida.
unidentified		I mean, I thought she read it from the table.
		I didn't listen to that part of your show.
		I never heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it didn't eat the car.
unidentified		Well, she doesn't leave the house.
		Ever.
		Daytime or nighttime anymore.
		She quit her job.
		I'm not kidding you, this.
		And it's more than just that.
		She's afraid of everything.
		She's her number one fear now, and she's on this kick.
		And I wish you, because you're right to the authority that I know of.
		I mean, I'm in Arkansas.
		There's no authorities of anything here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's Bill Clinton.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he still carries some weight there, right?
unidentified		Well, you know, he may be a trooper called.
		But anyway, he doesn't carry any weight here.
		He's talking to us.
		We don't even have...
		Anyway, I wish you would tell her that it's safe to work outside the house because she doesn't listen to her husband or her son or anybody else.
		Amanda only listens to Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Amanda, it's safe to leave the house.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, having said that, if she gets chupid, it's not going to be my fault.
unidentified		But I mean, if she gets chupid, I don't think she'll complain about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got a good point there.
		Amanda, it's safe to leave the house.
		All right, sir, I've got to run.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good luck to you and your chupefied wife.
		That's horrible.
		I mean, be afraid of leaving the house because of it.
		I mean, there is more of a chance of being struck by lightning than there is of being eaten by a chupacabra.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Morning, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am reasonably well, actually.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'm glad to hear it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Port Gardena.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Southern California.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		KBC land.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Okay, Art.
unidentified		I haven't been able to come in contact with the Dreamland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
unidentified		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you try 840 KVEG from Las Vegas?
unidentified		Yeah, I get that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it carries Dreamland.
unidentified		I can't get it that good, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, get a better radio then, because they've got a big signal down there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that means you have a lousy radio.
unidentified		No, pretty good one.
unidentified		No, I can get you, but it kind of fades in and out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, of course it does.
		Eventually, KBC will carry Dreamland.
		In fact, if the KBC people down there would be very, very nice and give KBC a call or write them a letter about Dreamland, I'm sure they would start thinking about it harder.
unidentified		Okay, Art, I would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Or get angry at me, one of the two.
unidentified		Yeah, Rollins.
unidentified		Art, I wonder if you could give us maybe an update on the Arts Parts?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, there's extensive testing going on.
		They've been to Carnegie.
		I mean, do you have a computer?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
		All right.
		Well, go up to my webpage.
		There's a big article up there about Arch parts.
		I mean, you won't believe it.
		It's entitled Talk Show Host Hiding Saucer Parts.
		You're going to love it.
		So go up there and take a look.
		Also, I will give you another update, and that is the parts incredibly.
		The parts found or now in possession of the Roswell Museum have been tested, and they've done electron scanning microscope work on them, and there are 16 layers.
		Now, this is something Linda Howe said, but those photographs are now up on my website also.
		And so if you want to see, you know, it's amazing that the parts that were sent to me and the parts that were sent to New Mexico have that in common.
		Mine, bismuth, magnesium, and zinc, somewhat considerably more rare elements, but both of them layered in a very similar manner, or actually dissimilar, but the layering itself is similar, and that is amazing.
		And so we've got those electron scanning microscope photographs up there, as well as the ones of my parts, of course.
		So, my parts, just parts, arts parts, whatever you want to call them.
		And you ought to take a look at that.
		This layering business is amazing.
		Call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
		Hold it, hold it.
		Tom, you're not allowed to give your last name on the air.
		Turn your radio off, Tom.
		That's number one.
		Okay, I got it off.
		And number two, please don't give us your last name.
		Just your first name.
		Tom in Nashville, right?
unidentified		No, Madisonville, Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I missed that one by a mile.
		Okay.
		Well, you're on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Proceed.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Who am I talking to?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A robot.
unidentified		A robot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To speak to Art Bell, say Art Bell now.
unidentified		Okay, Mr. Art, I'm kind of interested in this stuff you've been talking about.
unidentified		Outer space stuff, what have you been talking about here on this show here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how can you be interested if you're not sure what we're talking about?
unidentified		Well, because I'm a dumb old boy from Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, people in Kentucky can still think, can't they?
unidentified		Well, I'm trying to think, trying to get where you're at.
		Now, is this a lost satellite or what?
		What has he picked up here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it what?
unidentified		What kind of outfit has he picked up or is it that he got in a museum?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What outfits is it?
		Museum?
		I'm not sure what you mean.
unidentified		Well, art been talking about this, discussing these people about what he's found.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean the parts?
unidentified		Yeah, the parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, look, just briefly, all right, fine.
		Briefly, and I mean briefly.
		What happened is it's been, I don't know, six months now ago, or seven or eight, whatever it is, a long time ago, somebody sent me some metal fragments that are alleged to have been from the Roswell crash of 1947 or Socorro.
		And actually, that is one thing I don't identify, and that is the actual crash site specified in the letters for good reason.
		But they sent me all these metal pieces, and we have had them ever since then.
		We've been trying to determine what the hell they are.
		The ones sent me were bismuth and magnesium.
		Bismuth is a very strange element.
		And magnesium and layered.
		Nobody can duplicate it.
		Nobody knows What it is, and so forth and so on.
		So, this has been ongoing now for months and months, and we put it through every conceivable test except a few left that we have yet to do.
		And we have let contrary to what it says in that you know, why would they write something like that?
		Talk show host hiding saucer parts.
		I picked that up earlier today, you know, out of the mail, and I looked at that and said, oh my God, look, it's a tabloid.
		But, you know, now I'm told it isn't a tabloid.
		It's tabloid-like, anyway.
		Talk show host hiding saucer parts.
		Give me a break.
		Where would they get something like that?
		We have been so public with this, intentionally been so public with it.
		I mean, every result, every scientific result that we've received has been publicized, up there for everybody to see.
		We've documented carefully every step we've taken, and you get a headline like that.
		Top shows hiding saucer parts.
		That's really insulting.
		So, I mean, you know, in a nutshell, without giving you the specifics, which would take all night, and I'm not going to do it.
		I'm not going to bore the audience to death with that.
		That's the gist of it.
		I've got these parts, and testing continues.
		So there.
unidentified		Gunshot
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		By the way, this guy who wrote this article, sticking in my craw, this Nick Kelly.
		Guest column.
		Nick Kelly.
		Talk show host Hiding Saucer Parts.
		Nick Kelly.
		I'd like to talk to Nick Kelly.
		Nick Kelly.
		I'd like to talk to you.
		Some expression you got there on your face, bud.
		I'm getting a lot of requests to repeat this, so I'm going to repeat it.
		It is a summary of the world.
		It's not very frequent that you can read something like this or ever get something like this, and I will put it up on the web.
		Everybody's asking me to do that.
		If we could shrink the Earth's population to a village, a Hillary village of about 100, not about, but precisely 100 people, with all existing human ratios remaining the same, it would look like this.
		There would be 57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the Western Hemisphere, North and South, and 8 Africans.
		Now that puts it in perspective for you, doesn't it?
		57 Asians.
		Man, would we be a minority?
		51 would be female, 49 male.
		70 non-white, 30 white.
		70 non-Christian, 30 Christian.
		50% of the entire world's wealth would be in the hands of only six people, and all six of those would be citizens of the United States of America.
		80 would live in substandard housing.
		70 would be unable to read.
		50 would suffer malnutrition.
		One would be near death.
		One near birth.
		Only one would have a college education.
		No one would own a computer.
		When one considers our world from such an incredibly compressed perspective, the need for both tolerance and understanding becomes glaringly apparent.
		Isn't that cool?
		And a good friend of mine, Jerry Lewine, sent that to me by email, and I thought you would enjoy that.
		Incidentally, my email address is artbell at aol.com.
		Artbell at AOL.com.
		If you would like to send me a fax, you can do so by dialing area code 702-727-8499.
		702-727-8499.
		Never, ever more than three pages because it goes into memory first.
		Anything in excess of three pages is dumped before it prints.
		East of the Rockies, you're on there.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I'm calling from San Antonio again, and I want to talk to you about Flight 800.
		yes sir and uh...
		you know there's always remember at the start So do I. That makes two of us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just bear with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do the best you can.
unidentified		Okay.
		Anyway, you hear rumors, you know, went after a tragedy like that, and I heard two rumors that I thought would have probably been followed up by some additional information.
		One rumor was that there was a man that was on the plane before it took off, and he was told to get off the plane, and he was of Middle East descent, I believe they said.
		And they said he might have left something behind.
		And also, there were two men that supposedly rented a boat off of the, you know, off the plane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, let's take one at a time, all right?
		If there was somebody on the plane told to get off, then somebody is utterly not doing their job.
		Because, number one, all the security occurs before you get on the aircraft, right?
unidentified		I think so, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		The magnetic thing you go through and the scanning and the search of the bags, all of that occurs before you get on the airplane.
		So if he was on the airplane already, he should have been cleared.
		And if they had to kick him off the airplane, then there should have been something that would have caused the authorities to hold whoever that was.
		Wouldn't that make sense to you?
unidentified		Yes, it would, but the thing is, you can take on, you know, carry on baggage, you know, and...
unidentified		All of it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if they did find something that was in his carry-on baggage after he got on the aircraft, then the authorities should have held him.
unidentified		Okay, the other rumor I heard was that there were two men that rented a boat and they brought it back later after the explosion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, the FBI has been looking into that.
		They've had people swarming over that side of Long Island, interviewing people, trying to get information about that.
		And look, they've said themselves they know more than they are telling us.
unidentified		Oh, really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're not telling us all this.
unidentified		Let me ask you, if there are men that are suspicious, why don't they put out some composite sketches where they could help with witnesses identifying them?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the answer is they haven't gotten to that stage.
		Thank you.
		They don't have anybody like that.
		Or they would have certainly done so by now.
		Or at least one would hope they would have done so by now.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Kim Matthew in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, hey.
unidentified		Hey, you know what?
		Every time I hear you say arts parts, I always think of like arms and legs and gizzards and stuff.
		I always think, wow, they're on his webpage.
		Interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely fresh parts.
unidentified		You know, in that the publishers that publish Amber Wolfe, that lady you're going to have on, they have this other author.
		His name is Raymond Buckland, and I would love for you to interview him.
		He wrote a book called Witchcraft from the Inside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but don't you want to hear from Amber, who is a real witch?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, there you are.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can only do one thing at a time, and we're trying to move through all kinds of fascinating, different topics.
unidentified		I know next month sounds really fascinating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, I was thinking...
		We go out of our way with the ghost shows in October.
unidentified		Oh, you know what?
		I have a prediction to make.
		I predict that scientists are going to find out that crop circles are made by suction.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By what?
unidentified		Suction?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Suction.
unidentified		Yeah, now you remember that, okay?
unidentified		Because you didn't remember when I predicted the coming of your parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If it was suction, it would have to be suction from below the earth.
unidentified		I don't know, but I would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think about that for a minute, because the crops are absolutely mashed down flat.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So if suction is a thing, unless you're thinking of, remember those, when you were a kid, you had those little dart guns?
unidentified		And it would stick to your forehead?
unidentified		I got the impression I got.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, suction then, suction, the only way I could do it is down from below the earth.
unidentified		Well, you know what else I was thinking?
		What?
		For anti-gravity, wouldn't it be neat if you could have an anti-gravity bed, you know, and levitate in the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And then you shut it off when you wake up in the morning?
unidentified		Of course you would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Think what it would do for your back.
		I mean, you just flip it on, and you weigh about a quarter of what you would wear.
		I mean, you wouldn't want to be totally weightless.
unidentified		Well, yeah, I know.
unidentified		But I've been trying to work it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you get out of bed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My god, dude.
unidentified		Wouldn't that be cool?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the possibilities are endless.
unidentified		Yeah, I was thinking you could lift heavy things, too, because like I was trying to lift my TV and weighed like 75 pounds.
unidentified		I was thinking, wow, if I had an anti-gravity thing, you could just press a button.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An anti-gravity bed would make you a multi-billionaire.
unidentified		I know.
unidentified		Well, let's get started.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I guess they're now, presently, trying to develop and enhance the anti-gravity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have Hoagland on about this.
unidentified		I know.
		I thought it was absolutely fascinating.
		Now, you were talking about having an anti-gravity vehicle and you were wondering how you go back and forth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, a fan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, kind of like my magic carpet when I was a kid.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
		Uh-huh.
		So have I told you you're my favorite alien lately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I beg pardon?
unidentified		I said, have I told you that you're my favorite alien lately.
unidentified		Because you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're sweet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, dear.
unidentified		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good night.
		That is our 10.
		We call her a 10 for a good reason.
		Boy, that just sets your mind buzzing.
		An anti-gravity bed.
		Just imagine the applications, many of which I wouldn't even discuss on this radio show for an anti-gravity bed.
		Nothing that would, of course, completely remove gravity, but anything that would take, say, 75% of the gravity away.
		The applications for that are totally mind-boggling.
		An anti-gravity bed.
		The next billionaire.
		That's who you'd have.
		Billion dollars.
		You'd make a billion easy.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
		The End The duties for your mind.
		Give it all, let the girl, give it all.
		Get it on, get it on, get it on.
		No, I, tell me how you want me, feel it in your heart.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight's program originally aired September 9th, 1996.
		Figure you need a little adrenaline.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just about this time of the morning, they do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coiner Sisters.
unidentified		You know how I like them.
unidentified		Good morning, everybody, and welcome back to Poster Coast Video.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Mark Bell, and I've got a word here about aliens in Vermont.
		It's a follow-up fact to that phone call that took a little while to go about the whole sky there.
		Mark, I've spent much time in a small town called Danby, nestled near the Green Mountains near Manchester, Vermont.
		I have yet to see an alien here, but I assure you, Vermonters are practical, freedom-loving, hunting type folks.
		I'm sure they'd consider aliens game, something to be swung over the car hood like a good deer catch.
		I don't think they'd want aliens hiding in their territory.
		If they didn't bring one home for dinner, they'd go to the other extreme and fight for alien freedom.
		Actually, the alien theory might explain someone we used to hire to cut our fields.
		We call him the Mad Moor because of the intricate paths he drew through the grass.
		A Vermont version of crop circles.
		Yikes.
		And then there was this just a little bit earlier.
		First it was Lachubacabra, the goat sucker.
		Then Dick Morris, the toe sucker, toe cobra.
		Now it's the Groundhog Sucker, the Ground Cobra.
		On page one of the San Jose Mercury for the 9th of September, there's an article on how a Denver, Colorado company called Dog On uses a truck-mounted vacuum cleaner to suck prairie dogs out of their holes and get this 300 miles per hour.
		Perhaps these folks might take care of your rabbits and ground squirrels.
		As a follow-up to that, somebody has sent me an entire article showing the insidious machine, and the headline is, Swurp.
		There goes another prairie dog.
unidentified		Swirp, mind you, swirl.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine traveling at 300 miles an hour through a tube into a net?
unidentified		Oh, man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can just listen to this all night.
		I absolutely love this point.
		I mean, listen to this excitement.
unidentified		Come on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of them, Daughters of a Preacher Man.
		Hi there.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Art.
unidentified		This is Cindy in Kansas City, Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Cindy, KCMO.
unidentified		Yeah, I think your idea about having Harry Brown on is wonderful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Same night as the debates.
unidentified		Right.
		It's no wonder that they won't let him in the debates.
		He would show them up for the pathetic excuses they are for presidential candidates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, listen, don't be afraid to say what you really feel.
unidentified		I won't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to do it.
		I'm going to take them up on it.
		Why not?
unidentified		Great.
unidentified		Let me tell you a little story of something kind of odd that happened to me over the weekend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Okay, I was at home with my husband, and we had kind of an argument.
		And it was raining outside, and I grabbed my umbrella, and I went down the street to a new fountain that they had just built.
		And on the ground around the fountain, they have these bricks that people could send money in and get their name inscribed in them.
		And then they inlaid them into the walkway around the bricks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like the Hollywood sidewalk deal, right?
unidentified		So yeah, similar to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got it.
unidentified		So I'm up there and I'm walking around and I'm reading the names and looking.
unidentified		And I came across one that said, in memory of Cindy L. And it said my last name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You found your own brick?
unidentified		I found a brick that was in memory to someone with my name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you see Rod Serling anywhere?
unidentified		Well, I kind of felt like I had walked into the Twilight Zone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that would totally freak me out.
unidentified		It was very strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it still there?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		As a matter of fact, I had to bend down to touch it to make sure it was really there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think I'd do some inquiry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go tell the bricklayers that, you know, the reports of your death have been greatly exaggerated in Brickdom.
unidentified		I came home and told my husband about it.
unidentified		He said he didn't know that I had had that put in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No more fights as of now.
unidentified		Well, thank you, Lord.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you're good for a year, the brick comes out.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call.
unidentified		Thanks a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really weird.
		That's really weird.
		I wouldn't like that at all.
		In memory of.
		And your name in the brick?
unidentified		Very bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, David Santa Clarita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Santa Clarita.
unidentified		Next to Magic Mountain out here in California.
		Oh, all right.
		I was calling about this drug thing and the government dealing dope and all this stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What do you think about that?
		Do you think there should be some kind of investigation, or do you think it's just conspiracy nonsense?
		And the reason I ask...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, there's a germ of truth to it, certainly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But is the government massively dealing drugs?
unidentified		No.
		I'm not so sure, because Freeway Rick, I mean, I knew the guy.
		Who?
		Freeway Rick, this guy that got down in San Diego, on trial right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For what?
unidentified		For selling dope.
unidentified		Then he says the government gave him the drugs and gave him guns and all this stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The government gave him drugs and guns?
unidentified		And guns.
unidentified		Let's see, they had guns that the Contras had that, I guess they were selling in the city and that kind of stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this sounds like a political explanation for a local crime.
		But I think there's something to it.
		Sure.
		Some pilots brought back drugs.
		The CIA probably had some operations going on.
		The DEA probably had some sting stuff going on.
		And so, yeah, in a sense, some of it happened.
		But are they massively dealing drugs?
		I don't think so.
unidentified		Well, I think some kind of investigation should be done on it.
		And I don't think Congress is doing anything about it.
		You know, I've seen an article where a guy who ran the money laundering operation for one of the cartels, for Escobar's cartel, and he was in there saying that he dealt directly with intelligence agencies, and he made a deal where he shipped drugs to the Contras.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why would he ship drugs to the Contras?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
unidentified		I had to read about five years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You obviously don't, because there would be no reason.
		I appreciate your call, sir, but there'd be no reason to ship drugs to the Contras.
		The Contras were down in Nicaragua.
		The story, so that you have it straight, is that the guns were taken down to the Contras, and then the drugs came back up.
		That's what people are saying.
		And certainly there was something to it.
		Certainly there have been various sting operations, even some dirty dealing, and no doubt some drug dealing.
		But As a general policy, I do not believe the U.S. government is pumping, as a matter of policy, all the drugs that came into America.
		No, I don't believe that.
		I never have bought into that.
		Here's another one: same category: Art.
		What do you know about U.S. Marines?
		30,000 of them in Australia collecting weapons from the civilians.
		Heard about it on another talk show the other day.
		They didn't go into detail.
		Jerry and Ventura.
		Answer is nothing.
		It's baloney.
		There is a big gun controversy going on now in Australia.
		But where do these groups get this crap about Americans going down there to collect guns from Australians?
		That's bull.
		Absolute unmitigated bull.
		And there's just a lot of this kind of stuff floating around, and the people responsible for it ought to be hogtied, as far as I'm concerned.
		Because they make such wild allegations that the people have become numb to what really is going on and what should be looked at.
		30,000 Marines collecting guns from Scott.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Hi, this is Steve from Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Steve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Not too bad.
unidentified		I had a question on your real audio that was on your web page.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I tried to download that.
unidentified		That's not accessible anymore.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean the real audio player?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		One that they had on there for free?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll tell you where you can still get it.
unidentified		Where is that at?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We have a bulletin board here in Perump, Nevada.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I thought that was still available on my webpage, but if you can't get it there, listen to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call my bulletin board.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you'll find it on there.
unidentified		All right.
		See, I had another question.
		You never talk about your boy very much.
		How old is he?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fifteen.
unidentified		Fifteen.
		How old's Pomona?
		Can that be revealed or not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I would want to ask her before I, you know, I don't think that'd be cool.
		She might not like that.
		And I wouldn't want to find out about that tomorrow.
unidentified		Well, I was just curious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For one thing, she opens my mail.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of times.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, I could get in big trouble.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true.
		Okay, I'll try it there.
		Yeah, because you change your page around so often that something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Every day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We change it every day.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		On purpose.
unidentified		I like the old one before better than this one, you know, for whatever's sake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'll keep changing.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, you don't ever want something to stay the same all the time.
unidentified		No, but it's easy and accessible to get around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		It depends on what kind of browser you've got.
		I really like the new web page much better.
		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'll learn.
unidentified		Well, no, I'll learn, but it's just a point that, you know, it's just a little bit.
unidentified		Also, the music.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you want to know, I like my web page the way I like my show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Never the same.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, that's good.
		Did you, the music that you have for Dreamland, that's the composer that's listed there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's the O of Pleasure.
unidentified		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I got to run.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yeah, but the web page is a reflection of the program.
		And it's never the same.
		I don't want it to be the same.
		I don't want this program to be the same.
		Do you think I could come on here for five hours every night and do the same thing every night?
		Like a bunch of these guys do?
		Clinton bashing five hours a night?
		No, thank you.
		I couldn't handle that, and I doubt the audience could either.
		So I don't.
		Well, all-time do different stuff.
		Why not?
		I mean, radically different.
		I prefer that.
		And I think the audience does too.
		Anyway, that's what we're going to do on this program.
		Other programs can do what they want.
		First-time caller align, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
unidentified		This is John from Brandenburg, Kentucky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, John.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What can I do for you?
unidentified		This is the Art Bell?
		yes sir are you open up a can or about Buddy, that just made me pretty mad about what I heard about Jimmy Carter not being invited to the convention.
		Yeah.
		Well, I'm going to tell you what happened to me with Jimmy Carter back years ago.
		What?
		When Jimmy Carter was going up for re-election against Reagan.
		Yeah.
		I went to vote.
		And Reagan was declared winner before I even cast my vote.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Kentucky?
unidentified		In Kentucky, across the whole United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, he had an absolute landslide, so I guess it was declared winner.
unidentified		Well, it kind of made me mad.
		I couldn't even cast my vote, and this man was declared winner.
		And Jimmy Carter, as far as I'm concerned, was one of the best presidents we ever had in the office.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was mostly a good ex-president, more than he was a good president.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He's been a very good ex-president.
		And why he didn't show up at the Democrats convention, one can only conjecture about.
		Either he had nothing good to say, or they didn't invite him, or he didn't want to go.
		No matter what the answer is, something was radically wrong for him not to show up, the only living ex-president.
unidentified		Well, you got that right, buddy.
		But what upsets me, though, when Reagan got in there, this country went downhill.
		And everybody said, oh, it went uphill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends on your point of view.
		Some people see a hill.
		Some people see, you know, a valley.
unidentified		Well, I've seen the economy go way down.
		You did?
		I'm a coal miner.
		Oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coal miner.
unidentified		In the early 80s, when Reagan got in there.
		It went downhill.
		I'm talking about the highest sulfur coal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The economy went down further than the mines you worked in, huh?
unidentified		No, I'm talking about the whole western part of Kentucky, southern Indiana, southern Illinois.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you think that was Reagan's fault?
unidentified		No, I ain't going to say that's Reagan's fault.
unidentified		I thought Reagan was going through working on the unions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I was a UMWA.
unidentified		I'm still UMWA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you didn't lose your job.
		You're still a union.
		The only union that he really went after was the white controllers that I recall, and I thought that was utterly justified.
		They were supposed to go on strike.
		Remember that?
		They weren't supposed to.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		All right, Bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a me.
unidentified		Well, this is me.
unidentified		Speaking about that old gentleman who called in and said that if President Clinton gets in again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The country's dead.
unidentified		The country's dead.
		Well, you tell him that I happen to be a Republican.
		As far as I'm concerned, I would never vote Republican again, and it's the Republicans who are killing Uncle Sam.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		That's right.
		With their malicious, vicious gossip and the way they're attacking the President of the United States.
		It's disgraceful.
		And I have friends who are Republicans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Even more important in this day and age, it's utterly non-productive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, it's so outrageous.
unidentified		It's more than outrageous, all the way from, oh, well, let's not get into that, but it's disgusting.
		I heard one Republican say today on TV that there are 39 counts against the president, and they're going to have one more pretty soon.
		Well, bully for them, but they're the ones that are killing Uncle Sam.
		I've been around a long, long time, and I've never seen anything so malicious and vicious.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you want to know the truth, I'm sick of both parties at the moment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I have been for a while now.
unidentified		I know, but this is, after all, the man is President of the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what about the Speaker of the House?
		Now, the Democrats did a big job on him.
		They maligned him just beyond belief.
		So it's both parties.
unidentified		It's both parties, but as far as the Republican Party goes, it's filth.
		That's what I think it is, filth.
		The older people, I want to tell you something, the older Republicans are getting turned off.
		I've heard it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, listen to me.
		You listen to me.
		I'm the same way.
		I'm getting turned off by this myself.
		I don't like it.
unidentified		You're sick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sick.
unidentified		I'm 86 years old, and I've never seen anything like this in my life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is why we're mortal.
		You see, by the time you get to be 90, 86 to 90, you're ready to go.
		You throw up your arms.
		You say, Lord, take me.
		I don't want to be around here anymore.
unidentified		Isn't that the truth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is the truth.
		I think, thank you.
		The Lord prepares us for these things.
		The world continues to change, and it gets so disgusting, finally, that you're ready to go.
		Take me.
		I'm yours.
		Take me now.
		I can't stand another election cycle.
		You're ready to go.
		It's nature's way of getting ready.
		No, I'm kind of fed up with both parties.
		She's right.
		You know, this attack from the right is dysfunctional.
		The attacks from the left have been dysfunctional.
		I'm pretty angry with both parties.
		And that's why you haven't heard me spending a lot of time raging about politics one way or the other.
		Because it's just a bunch of baloney.
		The nation is not going to go down the tubes or be destroyed if Bill Clinton's here for another four years.
		The nation is not going to go down the drain or be destroyed if it's Bob Dole for four years.
		But I'm not particularly excited about the prospects of either one.
		Or either party.
		Or politics in general.
		As far as I'm concerned, to be a politician these days, you've got to be a liar.
		And I'm not exactly sure when we cross that line, but I know we're across it.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Good morning, Mr. Bill.
		This is a socialist from Kansas City.
		That's a bunch of crap about Gingrich.
		They don't malign him.
		Gingrich comes out when Susan Smith kids drug doctors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course they maligned.
unidentified		When he was cut out of that mother's womb, Gingrich said that's the ideal of the New Deal.
unidentified		You know, he's a master at using words for manipulation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Democrats have had an attack out on Gingrich since day one.
unidentified		Gingrich deserves that attack.
unidentified		He's the lowest of the low, and he represents Clinton's the only thing saving us from these Republicans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, please.
unidentified		You know it's the truth.
unidentified		People aren't going to elect Dole just because they know somebody's got to protect us from Gingrich and those right-wing nuts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		What I say is not true?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What you say regarding right-wing nuts is true, and what I say regarding left-wing nuts is true.
		And they're both doing a terrible disservice to the country as far as I'm concerned right now.
		And I'm sick of both.
unidentified		We finally agree on something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we do?
unidentified		Well, we're sick of the Republicans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then you agree halfway with me, you mean?
unidentified		Right.
		Hey, this Harry Brown, he's so full of it.
		You know, all he can do is say government doesn't work.
		Well, I got a list for you, Mr. Bell.
		I could go on for the rest of the morning about how governments help the American people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't let you do that.
unidentified		I know you wouldn't because you don't want the truth out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		you people are but harry brown ought to be allowed into the debates of he's uh...
		if he's in all fifty states which he is that i Why?
		I'm around.
		How many states are you up in?
unidentified		I couldn't hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're probably not even up in Missouri, are you?
		Or Kansas.
		Whatever it is.
		Hold on.
		We'll come back to you.
unidentified		You're listening to Arkfell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from September
		Coast to Coast AM from September 9, 1996.
		9, 1996.
		Your distinct art bells somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight's an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from September 9th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell you what I'm gonna do.
		In the interest of ideological nonsense, I will take the Missouri Muppet here.
		I wonder if he really isn't.
		Are you in Missouri or Kansas?
unidentified		Missouri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Missouri.
		I thought so.
		And you're not registered in even one state.
		Harry Brown's registered detectors, so I will not let you debate Harry Brown, but I will let you debate somebody on the far right.
		Would you like that?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, then stay there.
		Yeah, I know you would.
		Stay there.
		All right, here is my offer.
		I want somebody now on the far right.
		Any line, everybody else hang up, stop calling.
		Don't call.
		We're going to do a debate.
		And we're going to do it with the man from Missouri who calls himself the something social.
		Kansas City Socialist.
		Is that where you are?
unidentified		I'm the socialist from Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, socialist from Kansas City.
		All right, yeah, all right.
		So if you want to debate him, call now any of the other numbers, and if I find a good, active debater in the interest of ideological nonsense, I will allow the two of you to go at it and demonstrate for the entire audience how totally without redeeming value this whole race is presently.
		And we'll do that in a moment.
		So if you're interested in that debate and want to take them on, now would be the time.
unidentified		right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, here we go.
		Now let's see what we've got here.
		On the right, from where are you in Idaho?
unidentified		Blackfoot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Blackfoot, Idaho, huh?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's your first name?
unidentified		Ben.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that with a B-B-E-N, Ben?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Ben.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what you're up against here, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kansas City Socialist?
		All right.
		Here he is, Kansas City Socialist on the left.
		Are we ready on the right?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ready on the left?
unidentified		Well, sir, I'm ready to go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's get it on.
unidentified		Hello, my friend.
		What's your name?
		My name's Ben.
		You know, the only people I feel that are going to vote Republicans are the wealthy and the dumb.
		Really?
		And why is that?
		Because the right wing is very sophisticated in their use of words.
		They use it as magic.
		They manipulate the unaware, the populace in this country that can't follow their shenanigans day in and day out.
		Can't even remember, you know?
		Well, the first problem is you're running on an assumption that all the right wing is rich.
		That's a baseless assumption.
		I know it's a baseless assumption.
		I didn't say that.
		I said that anybody who votes for the right is either rich or dumb.
		The problem with you is that you believe that the government, Big Daddy, will take care of everybody, which it can't possibly do.
		The millions of people that you have in these United States, big government cannot individually take a single person and work out all their problems.
		It's just an awful lot of people.
		I'll tell you, I don't know about this Big Daddy stuff, but I know that right after the Depression, there was extreme, terrible poverty.
		And the only way to help these people, the old, the sick, and the weak and the ordinary, was for government to step in.
		Capitalism sure wasn't going to do it.
		It had nothing to do with the socialist programs that pulled us, that were invented during that time.
		It was pure war that pulled us out of the world.
		I got news for you, buddy.
		There was soil erosion all through this nation.
		The banking systems, the financial systems couldn't hold up.
		They still wouldn't hold up if it wasn't government standing behind them.
		tell me that it was a little bit of a line in there at the way for the government standard behind these bankers I might say regulations.
		I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.
		Why is it the big business sucks up to the Democratic Party?
		Can you tell me that?
		Why do they?
		They're in power.
		Belt the CEOs and stuff of the big companies supported the Democratic Party during the 90s.
		They had the power.
		That's the reason they got the money.
		What's that?
		They had the power.
		That's the reason they got the money.
		And I got news for you, buddy.
		The Democratic Party was not a party of the left.
		They never have been.
		Thanks to these Southern Democrats, these bull weevils.
		We've always had a cadre of conservatives all throughout the Democratic Party.
		That's a plot, too.
		Really?
		Well, don't you feel?
		Not really.
		Look, the right has always been more It's more solid.
		It's more founded in values.
		It's more founded in all those things.
		I mean, you take the Democratic Party, they stuck up to Hollywood, who have basically no absolute statistics.
		What do you mean by Hollywood?
		There's a lot of people in Hollywood that are outstanding people.
		Look at Reeves.
		He just addressed a Democrat at a convention.
		He's a Hollywood man.
		How about Dean Martin?
		That fine man just died.
		He had bunches of children, raises a fine family.
		I can go on and on.
		There's a lot of people who are in the middle of the day.
		One of the theme songs at the Democratic National Convention was a stupid macarena song.
		Do you know what that song's about?
	It's about some girl that wants to cheat on her boyfriend, although he's gone away to war or whatever.
	I mean, the whole party is founded in, like, immorality.
	I don't know.
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	You aren't talking about different things.
	Here's the short thing for you.
	Why don't you try reading a little bit more?
	Keep yourself informed.
	Try listening.
	Let's go.
	So now it's going to turn into a personal attack.
	That's what we were talking about.
	I want to tell you what the government will do.
	One thing.
	Government stopped the Nazis.
	It stopped the communists.
	Hey, you guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you guys.
unidentified		The military stands on this.
unidentified		Hey, you guys.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a second.
		Now listen to this.
		Listen to what she said.
unidentified		I am not trying to keep you alive.
		When I dance, they call me Margarina.
		And the boys, they say, you say, you say, you're good.
		They all want me.
		They can't have me.
		So they all come and dance beside me.
		Move with me.
		Come with me.
		And if you could, I'll take you home with me.
		And that's what we're going to do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Talk about family values.
unidentified		Mr. Bell and my debater here, the Democratic Party backed the Family Leave Act, Medical Leave Act, the Republicans and the right-wingers, they're against that.
		Now, you go tell me which party is backing family values.
		Look at Head Start.
		Look at nutrition.
		I live out here in the real world.
		i take my paycheck i can't afford to buy it by that You know, we go to the grocery store and we'll get hot dogs and potato chips this time, you know, because, you know, that day, that particular day, maybe we only have $5 to spend or $10 to spend.
		You think that's anything spectacular?
		I've been going to college for six years.
		I've had a full-time job the whole time.
		And I've been going full-time college.
		I've been working my butt off and going to college, and I don't get any government assistance.
		I don't get any federal grants.
		I don't get any federal assistance.
		So I suppose that you think you put in all this study time and all this, and then you're going to go get a job job.
		It's your money, right?
		You don't have to earn any.
		You don't have to give any of it to taxes.
		You know how much tax I give?
		I give 32% of my wages to go to taxes.
		32%.
		I'm a college student.
		I'm single.
		The United States pays less amount of taxes than any of the industrialized nations in the world.
		So what?
		What makes us have to be like them?
		What are they doing so right?
		We'll hear you're crying about spending too much on taxes.
		Because I feel that that's my earnings.
		That's your earnings, huh?
		well i've got news for you buddy boy if you were would have been born in uh...
		Is it getting out there and slaving away?
		Is it helping me out?
		No.
		If you grow up someday to be a millionaire, you're going to think, oh, my God, I got all this money.
		I made it.
		I earned it.
		It's mine.
		I got news for you, buddy boy.
		You aren't conjuring up this money out of magic.
		You aren't making money.
		What you're doing is using the system.
		And by golly, if you make money off the system, you deserve to be somewhere.
		It comes from work, period.
		If I do the work and I earn it, it's mine.
		There should be no reason why I shouldn't have to.
		There are other socialist people that believe that the government needs it.
		I don't think the government needs my wages and my money.
		Why should they?
		If people wouldn't go on welfare, maybe if they're in hard times, they can stay on welfare for a couple of years, but then they ought to get out and try to find a job and work.
		It's not that hard.
		There are jobs everywhere.
		What do you mean?
		Most of the people, this is the hardest working country in the world.
		Most of these poor people out here are working two jobs, sometimes three jobs, and they're doing it because the man won't hire him part-time.
		No, the reason why they have to work two and three jobs is because half their money goes to taxes.
		Do you understand that if they wouldn't have facts...
		My tax bill isn't anything compared to what I have to spend on food.
		Oh, no kidding.
		Neither is mine.
		But if I have 32% more of my money, if we didn't have any taxes, that's 32% of my money.
		How much that money that I'm paying out for food is going to the big boys, you know, so they can live on the big house and the hill?
		I don't know, but I'll tell you how much is going out in mine.
		These government workers, they aren't living on the big house on the hill.
		They're living in the little house.
	$1,800 every month.
	$1,600.
	And do you know how much of that goes to taxes out of that gross?
	I bring home $800, maybe $900.
	And my gross is $1,600.
	$700 of my wages go a month to taxes.
	And I'm just working.
	I'm a college student.
	I'm trying to earn my pay.
	Wait a minute.
	This isn't real.
	$700 a month?
	How much money did you make?
	Huh?
	How much money do you make?
	I make, like I said, a gross $1,600 every month about, and I get to keep about $900 of it.
	Are you including Social Security in that?
	Of course I am.
	And medical care?
	I don't have anything taken out right now as far as you can.
	I mean, what do you expect?
	Are you going to have this money when you get old?
	I pay into 401k.
	I do everything I need to do.
	But I also have to go to college right now.
	Most of my money goes to tuition and food, period, and rent.
	That's all I have.
	But if I had an extra $700 that they take out in taxes, if I had that, what more could I do?
	I could invest more.
	I could do lots of things.
	I don't think the government's going to take care of me.
	I can make better investments than they can.
	What do they do?
	They take my money and then they give it back to me at the end of the year.
	What kind of crap is that?
	What are you talking about?
	What kind of crap?
	Well, look, if I had an extra $700 a month, I could invest that.
	I could be taking way more interesting than just giving it to the government for free interest.
	That's not taking care of me.
	That's screwing me.
	And that's what big government is like.
	Society, okay.
	Number one, it's a complex problem.
	You might say, okay, give me my money now.
	Give me my money now.
	But what happens when the boats come to your state, you know, and boy, you're in a gamble?
	Oh, my gosh, I'm hooked on gambling.
	Well, there goes your 401.
	Well, then when you reach 65 and you're laying out in the field, what are we supposed to do with gambling?
	You took your 401 and spend it in the boats, huh?
	That's where you're all backwards and stuff.
	How am I supposed to be?
	I feel that I can take better care of my money than the government can, period.
	That's it.
	I mean, I was the one that earned it.
	I'm the one that worked the job.
	I thought we already established that, buddy boy.
	You aren't creating money out of nothing.
	You're dependent on our society.
	You're depending on the government regulating the banks and the financial institutions and providing medicine and all the other millions of things that government does for us.
	Oh, so you think that more government is better government?
	Is that what you're trying to tell me?
	Government is the only way that we can buffer the savageness of these predators that are capitalist.
	We've had experiences with it in the past.
	You know that look what they used to work the child and talk about unsafe conditions.
	The fatality on the workplace would be tenfold if it wasn't for government stepping in.
	You have some respect.
	Yes, but it's not a simplistic thing.
	It started with Reagan.
	Well, I earned my money.
	I deserve all of it.
	I can take care of myself.
	It's society that we're supporting here.
	Family values, the village, the whole bit.
	You get it?
	That's what the election's about.
	I'm supporting myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, you two.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're going to uphold it right there.
unidentified		I do want you to hear this.
unidentified		Appreciate the debate, but listen to her words.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very informative.
		Did we ever get to it?
		This is a bad song.
		It really is, but actually, it's very touchy.
		Then you gotta listen to what she says in the second part of the chorus where she gets to say that.
		Listen to this and you'll hear what that guy was talking about.
unidentified		Now don't you worry about my boyfriend, the boy whose name is Vitorino.
		I don't want him, couldn't stand him.
		He was no good, so I...
		No, come on.
		What was I supposed to do?
		He was in a town.
		And his two friends were so fine.
		Hala tu cuerpo, alegría, macarena, que tu cuerpo es pagar la ley.
		Sounds like a Spanish valley girl, doesn't she?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on here.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, alright.
		I'm just curious.
		Has your show been banned on the internet in China?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Banned on the internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, all internet has been banned in China.
unidentified		Oh, all of it, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that?
unidentified		I didn't know all of it.
unidentified		I just thought some of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, all of the internet, as of yesterday, according to a message I received before broadcast, Red China banned the internet yesterday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What a bummer, huh?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, I guess you won't be getting no calls from anybody.
		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I have, though, during the time the internet was there, I've received calls from Red China.
unidentified		I got one from Shenzhen Province, which is the...
unidentified		They just did that, didn't they?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They just did, yeah.
		So I guess that's the end of calls from Red China, yeah.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, thanks.
unidentified		Sorry about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're welcome.
		That's the way it goes.
		I try to tell people, Communist China and even Russia, they are not what you think they are.
		You know, Red China has not really changed.
		They're absorbing a lot of economic activity as much as they can.
		But they haven't really changed.
		They're hardcore commies.
		And as for the Russians, they're trying to tell us they've economically and politically changed.
		And that's a bunch of horse stuff.
		It's just simply not true.
		And they're in a nutshell, you know, those two guys arguing for the last 10 or 15 minutes, whatever time I left them on, was the basic argument that goes on on talk shows hours and hours and hours endlessly, the take from the poor and give to the rich versus the rich and we want to keep it argument.
		And that is the argument.
		You could put it on for 10 or 15 minutes.
		You could repeat it for hours.
		It's not going to change.
		From both sides, it remains the same argument.
		So I don't see any reason why somebody who's basically got something different to say, which is Harry Brown, has got something different for a change to say, can't get in the middle and change the dynamics of the argument for a change.
		But they're not going to let that happen.
		They're not going to let that happen.
		And so that's why we'll probably have Harry Brown on the night of the debate.
		So I'm on here.
		Let him answer.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Art Bill?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes.
unidentified		Well, do you know I call you home city, I suppose.
unidentified		Jacksonville, North Carolina.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're from Jacksonville?
unidentified		My brother is.
unidentified		Oh, well, he was sent there to build this barracks, you know, for the Marines in 73.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		So he built his home.
unidentified		And so, oh, the other night, you know, that storm, I was so worried about him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		So he lost part of his roof on his new home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry to hear that.
unidentified		And he said, so many people, you know, around him, he said, thank goodness he didn't have any trees.
unidentified		The trees were uprooted and all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, dear?
unidentified		Oh, I'm in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seattle.
unidentified		And my name is Beth.
unidentified		And I wanted to go visit with him in October.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it ought to be all right by then.
unidentified		But do you think everything will be cleaned up by then?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it'll be all right in Jacksonville.
		There's a lot of North Carolina.
		It's going to take a long time to recover.
		But Jacksonville didn't get the brunt of it.
unidentified		Yeah, Wilmington did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wilmington did, right.
unidentified		Yes, but now we have that other hurricane coming in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hortense.
unidentified		Hortense, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like a hurricane manufacturing machine down there between Africa, actually down off the coast of Africa.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, I have your book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, and it's beautiful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope you enjoyed it.
unidentified		Well, I'm going to try to get to it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You haven't yet.
unidentified		Not yet, because I've had so many things going around here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's an easy read.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You'll enjoy it.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And so I'll be calling you again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please do.
unidentified		Okay, bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Friend, Joy Jacksonville.
		Yeah, that's my birthplace.
		Actually, on Camp Lejeune.
		Marine Brat.
		I would say Marine Brat.
		West of the Rockies or on the air?
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, how are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay.
unidentified		Good.
		This is Brian.
		I'm calling from Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Brian.
unidentified		Got a question for you.
		It was probably about six weeks ago on your show.
		Someone had mentioned, you had someone on, I can't remember who the guest was, that there was another incident.
		It was either shortly before or shortly after the TWA-800 flight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		That a private jet had been shot down also.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was Richard C. Hoagland, and he came back later and documented that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, it is true.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Was it a mission?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I don't know that it was shot down by a missile.
		They didn't specify that, certainly, but it did go down.
		And I've now got a story of another major commercial pilot who had a missile whizz by his cockpit.
		Wasn't too happy about that, I'll tell you.
unidentified		Right, right.
unidentified		So what I was thinking is, you know, with this whole thing of the media not letting us in on what's going on with TWA Flight 800.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we'll have to hold on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My show is over.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I'm awfully sorry, but you get the honors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what they are?
unidentified		All right, I sure do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Do it.
unidentified		Good night, America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from?
unidentified		Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Los Angeles says, Good night, America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The high desert says.

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