Art Bell dissects the 1996 TWA Flight 800 crash, where NTSB/FBI now suspect a bomb or missile (not mechanical failure) after analyzing cockpit recordings mirroring Pan Am 103’s anomalies. He challenges listeners to decode a secret audio clip and speculates on terrorism—domestic or foreign—without claimed responsibility, while dismissing Clinton’s "I didn’t inhale" defense as disingenuous amid calls for drug policy reform. Callers debate crop circles (Butte, Nebraska; Shehalis, Washington), radiation links to UFO sites, and state-sponsored retaliation, like Iran’s alleged response to the U.S. Navy frigate incident. Bell defends capital punishment for premeditated murder but warns of wrongful convictions, tying it all to broader critiques of government overreach, failed policies, and the need for transparency in crises—both man-made and unexplained. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, and welcome to another edition of the best in live overnight talk radio.
I'm Art Bell.
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It's going to be an interesting open line type morning for you.
We've got a lot going on.
Well, I spent the better part of the midday today doing what anybody with the time to do during the day, with the time to spend, would have done, and that is watching the news conference of the MTSB and the various comments about Flight 800.
Now, the bottom line is fairly simple.
They, as you know, recovered the cockpit voice recorder and the data recorder.
They've had an initial look at them and have recovered precious little information.
Basically, at about 11 minutes and seconds into the flight, everything stops.
A catastrophic stoppage of power.
Now, it's very similar to Pan Am 103 in the sense that the various cockpit voice recording channels all recorded a very, very tiny anomalous sound just prior to the cutoff.
So that's all they've got to work with.
They are going to turn this thing inside out, upside down, inside out, and they are going to try to determine exactly what that sound means.
They will be looking at the data channels that, you know, monitor things like altitude and flaps and all the rest of that sort of thing.
They will monitor, they will do more work on those as well.
So they have teams working now on both boxes.
But to get to the bottom line, they now are coming out.
Even the FBI came out and said it now seems more likely it was a bomb or missile.
They certainly are not excluding the missile theory at all.
In fact, they're including it now.
One spokesman said mechanical failure.
That probability is down to about 5 or 10 percent.
So the bottom line seems to be, even though they don't know yet for sure, they say, he says, it looks like it was a bomb or a missile.
And as a result, tough new aviation security measures were announced today by our president.
And as a traveler next week, I want to thank him for that.
And I frankly have no problem with it at all.
More money, more time to check in.
Suits me.
I'm willing to go through it.
And most of all the interviews that I saw on CNN and elsewhere, people are saying the sensible thing.
You know, of course they're going to spend a few more bucks or a few more minutes in check-in to get searched.
I have nothing to hide.
There are a couple of things I want to ask about here, though.
One is they have a new machine.
We talked about this once before, but I actually saw it demonstrated yesterday, which, when you walk through it, unlike the old metal detectors, actually, I know this sounds unbelievable, but it can look through your clothing and see you naked.
Nude.
They actually showed it working.
And there walked a person with clothes through the detector, and oh my god, on the screen there was a nude person.
Now, in some way, this machine is able to, in essence, look through clothes.
Like the old, remember the old Superman x-ray glasses that didn't work?
Well, this one works.
It detects and paints the skin and goes right through the clothing.
It's not like it's looking at your internal organs as an x-ray would, but it goes through your clothing and paints you nude on the screen.
One other aspect that I don't understand exactly that they're going to do is interesting.
They are going to increase the number of people who fit what they call the terrorist profile.
Now, maybe you all can help me out with this.
What is a terrorist profile?
I'm really serious here.
What exactly does a terrorist look like?
Is it a disheveled person?
Is it somebody with long hair or earrings?
Is it somebody named Ahmed?
Is it somebody who looks nervous or sweaty?
I'm curious.
I really am honestly curious.
What is the profile of a terrorist?
Whatever that profile is, and they know and we don't, I guess, they are going to be questioning these people and looking carefully through their luggage.
At any rate, I really, personally, even with the nude thing, although I don't exactly like the idea, I don't have a problem with it.
I would rather go through that than die.
How about you?
So we still don't know.
What I think we're beginning to know is that clearly, well, I can't even say clearly, but everybody is leaning toward terrorist action.
I really hope it's, you know, for our sakes, I hope this is foreign terrorism.
I really do.
Tomorrow night, we will do an experiment with the ability of people with computers to decipher secret messages.
Now, I'm not going to say any more about it than that right now.
But tomorrow night we're going to do that, sort of in line with what they're going to try to do with this TWA fraction, actually, of a second, that they're going to have to try to figure out, is this an explosion?
Is this a missile hitting the aircraft?
Is this some sort of catastrophic immediate disintegration in air due to, well, I guess I'm at the same place they are.
I just don't believe that could be.
Any mechanical, mechanically caused disintegration would take at least a matter of seconds.
Even if an engine let go and pieces of the blades went through, the turbine went through the fuel sacks.
There was a white explosion.
And so, you know, that kind of end for this aircraft would not explain the white flash followed by the, obviously, the fuel going up.
So I think we're down pretty much to the fact that it was terror.
No prior claims, so no interest in claiming responsibility.
So it's general terror, just to terrorize all of us.
So I guess there is no choice.
I mean, the president really is right.
We've got a crackdown on security.
It's sad.
America used to be a place where it was relatively safe to live and fly.
And yeah, you could expect an accident every now and then, but generally you didn't expect to be blown out of the sky with a bomb or shot out of the sky with a missile.
But I'm sorry, we have arrived at that point.
So those are my comments on flight 800.
I saw the entire NTSB press conference and the FBI people.
And you didn't have to read very far between the lines to know they were obviously talking about a bomb or a missile.
Now, crop circles.
Boy, do I have crop circle information for you tonight?
These things, I guess, come in pairs or I really, I'm at a loss to explain to you why we're getting so many of them all at once.
There's got to be a reason for it, I suppose.
I don't know what that reason is.
But as you know, there was one in Butte, Nebraska.
And somebody was kind enough to send me an aerial photograph of the Butte, Nebraska crop circle.
It is not as interesting, nor is the resolution of the photograph as good as the other two we've got up there right now.
However, I have indeed sent it to ye old webmaster Keith Rowland, who has placed it upon the net.
If you want to see what the Nebraska crop, the interesting thing about this one, even though it's a relatively simple crop circle, is Dr. Levengood, local police authorities and others have looked very, very carefully at this and have declared it not to be a hoax.
This is not a hoax.
And it's in a barley field as well.
So I would strongly suggest that along with Stonehenge and the double helix so-called, now we have the Nebraska Crop Circle on the web page as well.
And guess what?
I've got word and facts that we've got yet another one, folks.
IART just received this from the Center for Crop Circles Studies in Washington.
I'm sorry, the quality is not very good.
These are pictures of a crop circle that just appeared in Shehalis, Washington, just discovered Tuesday.
And he sent me a photograph of it, and it is very serpentine quality, a circle after circle after connected circle.
In this case, there are no straight lines.
However, the circle at the radius is connected to each one of the circles.
Fascinating.
If somebody will send me a JPG or GIF rendition of the Shehales Circle, we will get that one up on the net too.
But if you want to see the one in all places in Nebraska, that is now up on our webpage.
We try to stay ahead of the curve as much as we can, as you know, on everything.
So something's going on, folks.
Something's going on.
The Shehales one is pretty big.
Pretty big.
700 feet, I think, overall.
This is going to be harvested on 7.28.
So there's a couple days more, but it is in Shehalas, and somebody out there might wish to give me a call if you have seen it up there in Washington.
I'd like to hear from you.
And again, if somebody wants to send me the photograph of it, computer style, we'll get it up on the internet.
In the meantime, you want to see what we've got up there now.
We've got a good collection of three.
Stonehenge, which is a mind-blower, the double helix, Ditto, and the one in Nebraska, which has now been declared not to be a hoax.
That's up there.
So if you want to see them, it is www.artbell.com.
That is the webpage, www.artbell.com.
And I suppose it bears more discussion about crop circles in general.
A congressional leader says that the White House aide who resigned in the FBI files affair was, get this, quote, highly recommended by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.
It was William Klinger.
He did it on the House floor.
And oh man, did they get after him?
Klinger, in essence, said the First Lady had committed perjury.
He said it on the House floor.
Now, when you say something like that on the House floor, you are protected legally.
Had he walked off the House floor and said it, a number of Democrats, administration types, have said that he would have been sued.
They'd have sued him.
So this one is kind of getting in the First Lady's face, and it will invigorate the investigation.
It's all over whether or not she recommended Craig Livingstone.
She denied that outright.
I mean, they've got her on videotape denying it outright.
And there's one other little item that you might want to consider, and it relates back to the Vince Foster suicide business.
You recall that Mr. Livingstone was one of those sent down to ostensibly identify the body of Vince Foster.
Well, Mr. Livingstone had never met, didn't know Vince Foster, couldn't identify the body.
So why did they send him down there?
And then you recall the mysterious keys.
So, you know, there's a lot that is going to be looked into.
And now, with the, you know, the flap over the first lady, why it's going to reinvigorate everything.
A tropical storm in the Caribbean, Caesar, and it will threaten to become a hurricane as it hits warmer waters.
It's threatening the South American coast.
Hopefully, it will not turn north.
Lafayette, Louisiana.
Here's one for you.
Man-oh man, here's one for you.
Quickening stuff all the way.
A doctor was charged with trying to kill his girlfriend by injecting her with blood from an AIDS patient.
Dr. Richard Schmidt, 48, was indicted Tuesday on an attempted murder charge and jailed without bond.
His attorney said Schmidt is innocent.
The 33-year-old woman, who was not identified in the indictment, developed suspicious symptoms just two months after Schmidt gave her what he had said was a vitamin injection, the grand jury alleged.
She later tested positive for HIV.
Lafayette Parish DA, Michael Harson, said that he would charge Schmidt with murder if this woman should die of AIDS.
Yikes.
The things that are going on out there, huh?
All right, listen, we're getting a whole rash of reports discussed last night on the program, you may recall.
And I've got several of them here, about three actually, collected since yesterday.
From Scott, who always writes a good facts in Butte Creek Farm, Oregon, listening to KEX.
Hi, Art.
Three questions you've asked this week got me thinking.
First, the weirdest ways to die.
Not long ago, there was a local suicide that, had it gone as intended, would not have been unusual.
The victim had intended on hanging himself, so he found a three-story house which was under construction.
Local building codes required the installation of an elevator.
The poor fellow obviously had no clue about the art of hangsmanship.
So he used a rope that was too big in diameter and gave himself too much slack.
He used the top of the elevator shaft as the jump-off point.
Well, the drop was too far, the rope too strong.
His head popped off like an overstressed rivet.
I always wondered if he had a second or two of consciousness to realize what had happened.
He goes on: If I could ask God only one question, it would be this: If you are the creator of everything and know all that will happen in the future, do we as people really have free will?
Ooh, that's a good one.
And finally, what do I know now that I wish I had known when I was younger?
I wish I'd known as much about the psychology of women as I do now.
It's probably a good thing that I didn't.
I would have gotten into a lot more trouble.
See?
And then these entries: one, a lady had just purchased a new home with a garage out back when she arrived to inspect how the movers had placed her furniture.
And it just begun to rain.
She decided to tie her pet dog to a corkscrew metal ground anchor while she went into the house.
So she turned the metal corkscrew anchor into the ground and, unbeknownst to her, into the underground electrical wire carrying electricity to the garage.
There, and then she was shocked to learn of her demise.
Item two: a young lady is pulled to a stop at a red light, which had changed suddenly.
She was in the right-hand lane of traffic in a small red convertible car with a top down.
In the left-hand lane was a truck full of hot tar mix to repair the roadway.
You can see it coming, right?
The truck attempted a fast stop at the light, but, as luck would have it, the load shifted, and the truck stopped momentarily, then flipped over on its right side, filling the passenger compartment of that young lady's sports car and thus sticking her with an untimely death.
Those two little diddies come from Dan in Nashville.
I was listening to your interview with the lawyer the other night, and I find it extremely disturbing that this lawyer and others could refer to Johnny Cochran as unethical when they are writing books and making millions of dollars off of this trial.
They did some things that I didn't think were ethical and right.
But that doesn't mean that it's wrong.
And an attorney, as you pointed out, is supposed to do everything in their power to get their client off.
I mean, that is their job, period.
Endo story.
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That's right.
And for people to criticize Johnny Cochran, I remember soon after the trial, people were referring to him as a low-down rascal and so forth and so on was ridiculous.
Because we think that you like to have more of a neutral attitude about things and approach things from the middle, and that would be getting you too far off into areas that you would rather report on as to be a part of.
And I think maybe it would be something you should sit down and discuss with her after the vacation or maybe during the vacation and see if she would be interested.
No, I really, I'm being very serious, very dead on, and I think she would be a great subject, and I think she would be a valuable asset to your show and great insight.
And plus, I think she would be honest about reporting back, you know, how she would.
And another thing we got an idea for a test is maybe come up with 10 or 15 subjects and label them with numbers and one night say, okay, callers, this is the number I want you to concentrate on and see what, you know, and kind of do your own remote viewing like you did with the object.
There wasn't, and I think that it probably had to do with the truly disturbing nature of what it was and the graphic way in which they dealt with it.
But it was a brilliantly, brilliantly done motion picture.
It was not given the credit that it deserved, and I'm convinced, not that I'm a professional movie critic, but I'm convinced the reason it didn't get the credit it deserved was because of the kind of material that it dealt with.
Let me tell you something about these darn damn conservatives who are attacking Bill Clinton's for letting people who, quote-unquote, have used drugs in the past.
All Clinton was saying is that he didn't know how to smoke marijuana, which is absolutely accurate.
A lot of people, I know when I tried to smoke a cigarette for the first time, I don't smoke now, but when I tried to smoke a cigarette, I couldn't do it.
Well, it's just a bunch of personal lies that the Republicans are doing to dissuade us from the fact that they simply are not doing anything for the American people.
Let me say one thing, lastly, on welfare.
Yeah, Bill Clinton's going to sign this cold-hearted attack on kids.
open lines tonight the nebraska crop circle photographs uh... is now on my webpage You'll find it in the Linda House section along with the other crop circles.
There is a new and fascinating crop circle in Chehalis, Washington, and I've got a photograph of it.
This one just discovered.
So, crop circles everywhere.
Flight 800, a continuing subject of discussion.
You all should by now be aware of the events of the day.
There's a very little teeny, teeny bit of audio that they're going to try to decipher.
It's a tough job.
I'll tell you what, it's a tough job they face.
It's a fraction of a second.
And I'm going to give some of you computer users a little job yourself trying to decipher something that I happen to have.
And I don't want to tell you too much about it just yet.
Well, I don't want to believe it either, but it's just not going to surprise me if that isn't what it is because the government has been giving us so many different stories.
I mean, Pataki says one thing, and transportation says something else, and it just looks like there's a shookup.
They don't know whether to hold Southern expression scraps or watch or blind or behind right now.
Well, it's kind of religious extremism, way beyond that, which I believe in.
Yes, animals are animals and humans are humans, but to have that kind of cavalier about an animal that you would allow it to be tortured like that, that's not part of my religion.
And what is so difficult about seeing that these people in the White House, the thing they're doing wrong is not admitting that what they did was wrong.
All they're doing is saying, so what?
I smoked pot back in the 70s.
But they're not acknowledging that what's wrong with you.
I frankly think it's close to the time when both sides regarding pot ought to drop the whole thing.
That's the only part that I thought he was right about.
We've got a whole generation.
Look, a lot of people that smoke pot.
Let's get down to cases here, all right?
A lot of people that, when they were in their teens, smoked pot because it was a thing to do, have now grown up, become wiser, and have become conservatives.
One who probably is sensitive to every little political innuendo or thing that might harm his career, and so kind of went halfway.
You know, I took it in my mouth, but I didn't take it in my lungs.
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Oh, the guy's got zero character.
I really think so.
And, you know, talking about the welfare thing and the liberal side constantly bashing the Republican side for wanting to take food out of baby's mouths and medical care away from the elderly.
What is so difficult for them to see?
Why is it so hard a concept to understand trying to teach people to make their own way and giving them some kind of incentive?
I think that it would lessen crime to some degree for a while, but those who have been making their living by selling anybody's bag of heroin would turn not to flipping burgers, which would probably be their only marketable talent, but to some other form of crime.
So I think the crime argument doesn't stand up.
And I think, and if you can argue against this, go right ahead.
But I'm talking about heroin addicts, cocaine addicts, people who require increasing dosages to be satisfied with the high they achieve, right?
Those people are a separate category, and those drugs, brother, are a separate category.
And if you don't think cheap, easy drugs in that class would turn a nation into a nation of two or three times the number of addicts we have now, then you're just not thinking straight.
unidentified
Well, how about this?
We tax it, and we take the money from that taxation.
We put it into treatment.
We put it into education rather than taking that money and putting it into a dealer's pocket.
they said that they got the black box and everything and they had something like what eleven minutes of uh... a little over eleven minutes of uh... you know that the people in the press corps asked him were all the parameters normal prior to that last little fraction of the second And he was unable to answer.
At that point during the press conference, he had a fax saying only that they had that last little bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
Art, I know you don't know what happened or anything, but what happened to that SOS?
Well, the problem with that, of course, is, thank you for the call.
But the problem with that is That our jails are so completely full of drug offenders that the people who are committing violent crimes are frequently getting out.
I mean, we had mandatory minimums for drugs.
And the only thing that did is stock our jails full of druggies and frequently kick out violent offenders early.
So that didn't work.
You know, I think it's time to rethink how to approach this.
But it's not time to run up the white flag.
I hope most of you, or some of you at least, consider this to be an intelligent approach.
I appreciate Harry Brown's point of view, but don't agree with him.
I simply don't agree with him.
And it's always been a catch point for me with regard to libertarianism.
I have a lot of libertarian in me, but that's not one of the bones.
So we need to rethink the whole drug thing.
We need to be honest about it.
We need to tell the truth to our children so they don't begin climbing the ladder.
And I think that marijuana and classing it with the other drugs frequently actually helps them go up the ladder because they tripod and they say, ooh, wow, my brain didn't completely fry.
I still seemed to be okay.
It wasn't bad.
It was a buzz.
It's like alcohol in a way.
Maybe not as dangerous in a lot of ways.
And so then it's easy for them to conclude, well, then if they lied about that, let me try this.
And then they try something that really gets them hooked.
And then we've got a higher percentage of hardcore drug users on our hands.
So number one is tell the truth.
Number two, don't run up the white flag.
Number three, reformulate the drug war and attack it in some different way.
And what that way is, I'm not, I don't know yet.
I'm thinking the whole thing over, and maybe you have an idea.
Listen, I was listening to what I think was a rebroadcast from some guy from Bemidji, Minnesota, talking about the space aliens and his weirdo quotient went from two to ten all of a sudden.
The chupacabra is either a mythical or real creature that was first noted in Puerto Rico, then South America Central, and then in America, that sucks the blood from the animals that it kills.
You know, I really believe his position is just to turn the power over to the states, and each individual state should be able to decide for themselves whether they want the drugs legalized or not.
And, of course, this would create a lot of examples around the country, and we could look to all the individual states and their positions and see which ones work and which ones don't.
Well, I'd be satisfied with it, but I do prefer that we look at a Constitution.
I think our founding fathers were very intelligent in giving the people the option to leave states where they find it their beliefs are not they have the option to leave their state and go to a different state that More follows their values,
and consequently, I think that's one reason why the founding fathers put didn't allow limit or excuse me, I'm a little nervous, but they didn't allow their states to put limitations on the ability to move from one state to another.
Well, I'd be willing to bet you that if you were to put it to a Democratic vote in any one of the states in this whole union, you couldn't get one state to even come close, and I mean even close, to voting in the legalization of all drugs.
Well, that's fine, and that that would be the choice of the state, but at least we'd have the federal government out of it, and it would be the state's rights.
Well, on the other hand, you might argue that the Constitution properly inculcates into our federal government some power with regard to the health and welfare Food and Drug Administration, for example, so that we don't get a bunch of quacks dispensing drugs that knock people off and kill them, that sort of thing.
So, you know, there are some proper functions of government.
I'm for a smaller government, but there are some appropriate national defense is another area.
National defense, the health and welfare of the people.
Now, I don't want to see that extended to the point that the cameras go in the bedroom, all right?
And I am for a smaller government, but there are some appropriate functions for government as well.
And I view the harder drugs as a true danger, a true danger to our national security.
Well, for one thing, after he mentioned his results on remote viewing regarding the genesis story and Adam and Eve, you continually interrupted him every time he wanted to talk about anything of any substance.
And I'm going to tell you right now why I did what I did and what happened after you stopped listening, okay?
Now, stops.
Yeah, I understand that.
Now, when I'm on vacation, they're going to replay the last part of the segment of the Dr. Brown interview, the two hours that you missed.
Okay?
And what I did is, Dr. Brown was wanting to launch into an area regarding our origins and the fact that extraterrestrials are here on Earth, in fact, in New Mexico and beneath the surface of Mars.
And I understood where he was going and with regard to our origins, as you pointed out, with Adam and Eve.
And I knew where he wanted to go because I know about Dr. Brown.
I've read the book.
I knew where he wanted to go.
I didn't want to go there until I had laid down a sufficient foundation for the audience regarding his expertise, his credentials, how he got where he was going.
He was ready to hop out there very early in the program, and I knew that if we did that without first laying down a solid base, that the audience would go, come on, what a bunch of total CRAPola.
So I let him go where he wanted to go.
In fact, I made him go there beginning at 2 o'clock Pacific time.
And then it really got wild.
I intentionally held it off so that we could all understand the basis, scientific basis for remote viewing.
So you missed the cool part.
I'm sorry it happened that way.
Well, but I had to do the interview that way, sir, or it would have come out wrong.
unidentified
Okay, but there's something else in addition to that.
Now, I can understand that.
But usually you repeat the Friday night show on Sunday morning.
You know, but I understand if you got cut off at 2 a.m. Pacific, I understand that you got the impression that I kept pulling him away from where he wanted to go.
Well, of course, Flight 800, the incredible revelation of the Black, actually, orange boxes with just that little teeny weeny bit of sound that the experts are going to have to decipher and try and decide whether it was a bomb or a missile or some catastrophic, impossible-to-believe instantaneous in-flight failure.
I don't believe that one for a second.
I think it was terrorism, either domestic or foreign.
God help us if it was domestic.
So, what we should all hope for is that it was foreign.
That's all I've got to say on that subject.
Well, no, actually, it isn't.
I've got something for you here.
Computer geeks, that's not, I shouldn't use that phrase, should I?
Because I probably qualify as being well within geekdom.
But, computer people, get a recorder out and get ready to record something that I'm about to play.
And then we'll see who are the best and the brightest out there at deciphering the indecipherable.
I was going to wait to do this, but I think I'll do it because it's going to be just too much fun.
And while the experts in Washington are trying to decipher this little split second of a noise they've got and to come up with answers, and you know what they're saying, they can do it.
I've decided to provide a gigantic challenge for my audience, the computer people, in trying to decipher something.
And so, get your recorders ready because I don't know, maybe in five minutes, or maybe in half an hour, or maybe here in a little bit, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to give it to you and let you go to work on it, you computer people.
I think the people who are selling drugs would not suddenly turn legal.
I think they'd keep using them.
I think that because of additional addiction, there would be less productivity, more crimes in other categories.
Yeah, sure, there'd be fewer people arrested for being on drugs or using drugs or possessing or selling drugs because there'd be no laws.
But there'd be people committing drugs who are higher than kite, committing crimes who are hired in a kite.
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Yeah, it's true.
I mean, the simple fact of the matter is that people who are, you know, that drink, how many car accidents or whatever happens, especially people who are saying that they're for legalizing it.
I mean, if their families were killed by someone who was psyched up on drugs or whatever, I mean, they would change their minds.
And I think it's a much bigger issue than just saying, okay, let's legalize it.
Let's just give up on something and do the easy way out.
And you wonder why I don't talk about politics that much.
That's why.
That's one of the reasons why.
It's so pathetic, so utterly pathetic, that it's just, it's not even worth it.
Look, maybe I'll yet get excited.
But right now, Bill Clinton is what Bill Clinton is.
Bob Dole is what Bob Dole is.
And they're both politicians.
And they're both willing to compromise their principles to achieve their goals.
And I could go down the list with Bob Dole with regard to gun control and abortion and a lot of other issues that Bob Dole has compromised on that he should not have.
You all know that.
And Bill Clinton is even more in that category.
So I'm just fed up with both of them and the entire process right now.
And I consider it to be a bunch of hot air to sit here and argue back and forth about which of them is the larger of the politicians.
In other words, call us toll-free at 1-800-618-8255.
In regards, I didn't catch the first part of it because I just got on to pick up your show about the time that this gentleman was on about legalizing drugs.
I just got the very tail end of it.
But we have such a problem right now with, I mean, people incarcerated in penal institutions, I mean, because of drugs, like your other callers have said and everything.
But I don't know.
You might as well, you know, just tell all your police officers, you know, well, you know, just give them their pension and whatever and say, well, hey, you guys, you know, got a losing battle.
Well, the Bifield-Brown effect has been known since the 30s.
And, you know, the first tests were done with X-rays, and a lot of the first landing sites of quote-unquote UFOs had radiation at the landing sites, high levels of it.
Which I think that might have something to do with it.
Another thing I was wondering is if it's, you know, like our Germans are better than your Germans syndrome after World War II, where we had, you know, certain, like Von Braun and others, and they had theirs.
Perhaps some of the technology was coming from that section.
And that's why Foreign Technology Division wound up with a lot of it.
Although it could be really foreign, you know, Andromeda or her father.
And even if it is used the Bifield Brown or the torsion for propulsion, it could still be part of a time machine that has the ability to move within space as well as temporally.
I just know we will continue, thank you, with the testing until we either reach a conclusion, run out of money, or have no more testing that can be done that will make a determination about it one way or the other.
In other words, we press ahead until we find out something.
Very little blood spillage, and then there was maybe some white residue like a steptic pencil that you'd use, you know, if you cut yourself and you're shaving.
Check.
And the only other thing that I recall from this, nobody ever came up with an answer, but one farmer said, you know, like two days before they discovered that some of their cattle had been killed, saw a, and this is not a black helicopter story, they saw a shiny dark blue helicopter flying over with men and like they saw, were able to see two men in like a gray uniform.
So either you've got to imagine that it's extraterrestrial in origin, which, of course, wouldn't get government cows.
They'd go out and get farmers' cows out in the middle of the field, wouldn't they?
That's really what they wanted.
So I just never went for the government thing because our government doesn't need black helicopters and guys dressed in black and all that baloney to go out and sneak out in the middle of the night and metal eight cows.
Matter of fact, our government has enough nighttime helicopter accidents using night vision as it is.
Yes, my interview with Travis Walden and his boss, Mike, if anything, added great amounts of credibility compared to the movie, in my opinion.
I'm not slamming the movie in any way.
I'm just saying that as you compared notes between what they said and what was demonstrated in the movie in terms of credibility, I think that what we had on the air here went far beyond, far, far beyond the movie.
Well, you know, when you come on and say they should just be killed, you've got to be a little bit specific, Troy, because we do have a whole system set up.
So I'm just asking, do you want to eliminate all the appeals?
Or, you know, and just, I mean, take them off to the execution point when the jury comes back and says guilty.
Is it a person who's sweaty and clutching a briefcase?
I mean, what is a terrorist profile?
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All right, let me see.
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
I absolutely can't believe it.
It's been so long I've been pushing this button to dial this phone.
I'm telling everybody about this because it's not advertised.
Also, we go off the air at 4.30, although I managed to get it from a Cleveland station until 5.
But I would like to know the numbers on the dial that the Richmond ⁇ I mean the Washington station would be so that I could maybe try that and see if I could pick it up.
In any case, I had some ideas that might help out in these various issues that you've been discussing and the other people have been discussing.
And one of them is about the drug thing.
And that has to do with the Harry Brown.
I wouldn't vote for him because I would not want to privatize parks and end up with wall-to-wall shopping malls from one end of the country to the other.
And he said, but why would they do that when the attraction of the area is its beauty and you might be able to charge to get in or something and they would maintain it for profit's sake?
What I wanted to propose on the drug thing is that we not just legalize drugs right outright, but we do study what they're doing in Germany and elsewhere where it's been successful.
So I would say generally that people really ought to be out there voting for wisdom, a dole, and maybe even Elizabeth Dole might be the vice president.
And he would be the good in the foreign policy issues and the things where presidents are needed, appointing the right kind of people in the Justice Department and so on.
And I think Dolphins vote we can get because the liberal media does what they do.
But my idea on drugs is this, that we have centers in our cities and towns where the addicts can go and get their drugs of choice, but it must be consumed on the premises.
The centers should be staffed by psychologically trained people.
You know, the guy in the suit who's got a job during the week and does a bunch of weekend binging and maybe some binging even during the week when he's at work, right?
No, they wouldn't give it up, and they're not going to go down to the middle of the town and identify themselves as a drug user because there goes their career and more.
So that is going to sustain a black market.
And if the goal of legalization of drugs is to eliminate the black market, unless you go all the way with it, you're not going to do it.
There's a fact that some of us that were in the military knew, and that is that there's a commercial way of getting shoulder-launched weapons here in the United States that are intended not to fire, but they can be made to fire if you have the knowledge to do so.
Just calling to just relay my condolences to the families of the victims of Flight 800.
And it's something that people in Canada don't realize.
You know, every time something goes wrong in the world, we call the United States to come to come to the rescue, but it seems like every little militant group or whatever wants to beat them up.
When the U.S. does something good in a foreign country, like when we go, for example, marching into Bosnia and we try to hold these people apart from killing each other and committing genocide, we're ostensibly doing a good thing.
But there's a possibility that one side or the other just took down one of our airliners because we're there.
And when we leave, there is every probability that war will resume.
And that's what I mean by no good deed goes unpunished.
We do good things around the world and we're hated for it.
unidentified
Yeah, well, we live close to the U.S. border here.
We have no problems.
You know, like the people, I don't know.
I don't know where it comes from, but there's a lot of hatred there.
And like I say, we're grateful to be your neighbors, put it that way.
Yeah, I'm a little rung out over the 800 business for a lot of reasons.
But the biggest one is, I mean, now that it's occurred, you know, beyond the obvious tragic aspect of the whole thing.
Let it not be one of our own.
It's going to take a long time.
Without anybody claiming credit, it's going to take a long time to figure this one out.
Probably not going to take a long time to figure out that it was bomb or missile.
But it's going to take a long time to figure out who did it.
And I guess we've come to the point where whoever it was who did it did it to spread terror generally.
And it's making us do some very, make some hard choices.
I mean, you know, nobody likes more security.
I mean, America used to be a place where you could walk around, you'd get on an airplane, you'd figure that other people weren't out to kill you.
I guess those days are gone.
Wonder what it's going to be like when our children grow up.
Is there going to be a cop on every corner?
Are you going to have to go through various detectors that will see you naked as you go into department stores because people have been blowing those up?
I mean, it was sent to me anonymously, so I as is so much of this stuff, so I have no way of knowing.
unidentified
I have one in a Mexican publication that shows a dead chupacabra, or, you know, what appears to be a dead chupacabra, that was supposedly found dead in Sonora, Mexico, and it's off.
Yeah, I think that what you're seeing, I think I know the photo you're referring to, and I believe that's the animal it killed, not a photo of a chupacabra.
unidentified
No, it's the head of a chupacabra on the front of the article, and it says chupacabra found dead somewhere in Sonora, Mexico.
And, you know, scanning, trying to scan from newspapers is really a bummer.
I don't know if you've ever tried to do that, but it's really hard.
So if it turns out to be anything, I will attempt to, well, I'll tell you, contacting a newspaper in Sonora is going to be rough, but I will give it a shot.
I will give it a shot, and we'll see if we can get the original photograph and get that scanned.
And even though that would be a big old pain in the neck, then you would have a good rendition.
At the presidential level, with the two candidates, Maine One's way of running, not a great deal.
unidentified
No, I don't think so either.
It should have been a clue to everybody in the country when Mary Magdalen married James Carville after the last election that somebody was getting whatever.
So did I. Not because I thought, well, actually, I did think in the beginning that he would win, that he had a chance.
And that's the main reason.
And I thought he would go to Washington and probably drive them out of their collective minds.
And they would probably end up ejecting him like a bad dream at some point.
But he would have done some real change before they got rid of him.
And so I but he screwed it up.
I mean, if he had not dropped out and if there hadn't been the business about his daughter's wedding and all the rest of it, he'd have won that election.
And by the way, my incredible webmaster, Keith Rowland, has already put the secret message on the web page as a WAV file so computer enthusiasts can download it and play with it until you get it.
But nobody, nobody reveal it to anybody else until tomorrow night in the first hour of the Richard Hoagland extravaganza.
My cat, well, my two cats, my big 17-pounder, he's great but grumpy.
He's like a grumpy old man.
My little girl is the sweetest cat in the whole world.
She hugs you.
I mean, she reaches up, puts her claws around your neck, and hugs you and licks your ear.
And my wild thing is now, well, I'll tell you, when we have dinner now, he will come right up to our feet and allow us to toss him little bits of food.
You tell me, you tell me what, if a life is taken, then what is justice?
I mean, we have justice for various crimes, whether you go in and rob somebody and take their money, go into their house, take their possessions, steal their car, various crimes.
But if the crime is taking a life, something irreplaceable, then what does justice demand in return for that?
unidentified
Well, what about, you know, reconstitution, giving back to the victim, giving back to the people.
But our network is grown to the network itself is like up around 400 stations, and you have no idea how much of a management effort that requires, says he who doesn't really do any of it.
In other words, they're really, really, really busy people up there, and we will get around to that.
unidentified
Okay, well, hey, I enjoy your show, and thank you for being on for me.
For those of you that are going to Russia and Scandinavia with me, I shouldn't say this because it should be a surprise, but we've made up a special six-color memorial t-shirt for the 96 tour of Russia and Scandinavia.
No, it would depend on the amount of support you engendered.
In other words, if he engendered sufficient support, Dick Lamb did, as the official candidate of the party and raised X number of dollars, then he would be eligible for matching funds.
unidentified
Well, just to be perfectly libertarian, we are not going to take them.
Harry Brown has squarely said, even though there was a bit of a fight in the party, I guess, about it, that he's not going to accept them, and I have a great deal of respect for that man.
unidentified
Well, for anybody who missed the Libertarian Convention on C-SPAN, our party platform is about 20 pages, where I imagine the party platforms are the other two, well, I call them one-party, two-branding.
Actually, I'm willing to interview all of the candidates.
And I say it again.
That includes Bill Clinton.
That includes Bob Dole.
God, I would love to interview Bob Dole, and I would give him a truly fair interview.
And why this man has, you know, I've issued an official invitation to Bob Dole's campaign.
I sent them information on all the affiliates, how big we are, the whole ball of wax.
And anybody who's listened to this show for any period of time knows darn well, even Bill Clinton, I'd give a fair interview to.
And why they have not yet come to us and said, yeah, come on.
I mean, Bob Dole is short of money, right?
That's what I'm hearing.
He's having trouble getting his message out because he's short of money.
And here I am with 10 or 20 million listeners any given moment.
And he's not responded.
He's not responded to me.
I am astounded.
And frankly, if they don't, you know, this might sound very egotistical, but I promise you it's not.
It has nothing to do with me.
It has to do with the size of the forum and the fact that I give fair interviews to everybody I interview.
I think.
It's my style of interviewing.
I don't go after people.
I ask sometimes fair and hard questions, but I don't go after them.
I'm no Katie Couric.
And so why I haven't heard from the Dole campaign absolutely astounds me.
Wild Card Line, you're on the air.
Hi.
unidentified
Hi.
You were talking about a couple days ago about what may be on the president's mind about the time that plane went down and then he visited the Olympics.