Art Bell’s July 24, 1996, Coast to Coast AM episode dissects TWA Flight 800’s crash—113 bodies recovered, 100 witnesses reporting a streak of light, and FBI hypnosis re-interviews—while Stan Deyo from Australia links seismic anomalies near Tahiti (4–6m waves killing two) to global thermal shifts. They debate black box inconsistencies, missile theories, and potential state-sponsored terrorism ties, like the Oklahoma City bombing. Deyo also explores Atlantis clues in Saudi Arabia’s Rub’ al Khali desert and warns of Loihi’s Hawaii tremors (1,500+ quakes) risking a tsunami. The show ends with Bell balancing economic critiques against political realities, underscoring how fringe theories and geophysical mysteries intertwine in late-90s conspiracy culture. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, as the case may be across all these many time zones stretching all the way from the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands in the west, the West Virgin Islands.
Good morning, St. Thomas, in the east, down south, into South America, north to the pole, and worldwide on the internet.
It was about a little over two hours ago they reported the recovery of the flight data and voice recorders to Flight 800.
Nobody has yet said whether they were pinging or whether they just physically found them.
I don't know the story there yet.
Five more bodies have been found, 113 thus far, 93 positively identified.
The president will visit very, very angry relatives who held a news conference earlier in the day carried by CNN.
The White House has issued an order saying whatever information the NTSB gathers should be given first to the families.
New York Governor Pataki probably didn't help the situation when he said, and this is typical of the way the information dispersal on this has been going, said the word from divers was that, quote, dozens and dozens of bodies have been recovered.
Then the investigators themselves said, no, not true, not recovered, but seen.
The investigators said, no, it's not true.
They had not located dozens and dozens of bodies.
Then later, the investigators came back and said, yes, it is true, that many bodies have been seen tangled with the wreckage at the bottom of the ocean.
The FBI has been, this is really interesting, has been dispatched to re-interview witnesses, National Guard witnesses, using, in some cases, hypnosis to help them recall what they saw.
Now, some people have been running around saying, well, we shot down our own plane.
Well, as a matter of fact, the exercise that was going on was not an armed one.
Was not armed, not live fire.
So the airplanes could not have shot down Flight 800.
Remember now, there were 100 witnesses who saw a streak of light headed up to this airplane before the explosion, including two military pilots who, without equivocation, said, yes, it was a missile.
Now, with the recovery of the flight data recorders, maybe we will learn something.
I believe the, now I'm not an aeronautical expert, but the flight data recorder generally will yield the information the instruments had right up until the moment of destruction.
That may give them a clue.
The cockpit voice recorder will yield any information said inside the cockpit, but not necessarily radioed to the ground.
So the answer may be close, or maybe not.
Maybe there will simply be a stoppage with the explosion occurring like that boom.
Maybe there will be some sort of word from the pilots about, oh my God, look at that.
Look what's headed toward us or something.
Who knows?
So the mystery of Flight 800 is a little closer to being answered tonight.
And the speculation about all of this, of course, continues unabated.
Interesting story.
Moving through a little other news.
Army investigators at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, are looking into whether a black soldier may have been responsible for getting this, get this painting swastikas on the doors to black soldiers' rooms this month.
There have been no arrests as far as I know, according to a spokesman, but I understand the investigation is pointing toward an African-American.
Swastikas?
Strange, huh?
So there you've got it.
Bosnia is likely to return to war if no international force stays after December.
When NATO peacekeepers plan to leave, and we are going to leave then, according to the administration, and they've been getting asked about that regularly on Sunday shows.
Yes, we'll be out, they say, but now the prediction is the Bosnian war will simply resume when we leave.
So what have we done?
Given them a breather, at least, I guess.
Dear Art, now, at the end of the program yesterday, some lady called up and said, Art, they have recovered a B-52 from World War II in Oregon.
And I said to the lady at the time, I don't think so.
You know, B-52s were not active during World War II.
It was a B-24 liberator, about a third the size of a B-52.
So I got about a million faxes.
There was no time to get that answered yesterday before we got off the air.
And my fax machine went nuts.
My email went nuts all day long with people answering that for me.
I knew it could not have been and said so last night a B-52.
Indeed, it was not.
It was a B-24 liberator, and it was indeed found.
One of the latest crop circles that we've been hearing about in all places up in Nebraska, I've got an article here from a Nebraska newspaper.
It says, crop circle, probably not prank.
According to the experts, two national authorities said Tuesday that a mysterious circular pattern found in a barley field near Butte, Nebraska, could be a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Both W.C. Leavengood, a retired university professor from Grasslake, Michigan, and John Casher, a physics professor at the University of Nebraska-Omos, said the circle did not appear to be the work of pranksters.
Two researchers from Omaha plan to visit that site today to analyze the curious 30-foot circle surrounded by a four-foot ring.
And again, we encounter crop circles.
And again, it is not a prank, according to the experts.
So what is it?
A message?
A message to man?
Some sort of atmospheric phenomenon?
Nobody knows, but it sure as hell isn't Doug and Dave.
Little bit of politics.
Bob Dole in Pennsylvania trying to woo women voters.
And boy, does he need to do that.
Susan Malinari is going to do his keynote address.
And today, she said, Bob Dole, of all people, does not deserve a gender gap.
Doesn't deserve it.
Deserved or not, he has got a macungus gender gap.
Well, that's a partial answer, but there's a lot more at work here than just that.
But then again, there's a lot of men who are not altogether wild about Bob Dole either.
Dear Art, I just had to fax you after hearing a report on ABC Radio News.
Now brace yourself, folks.
The Clinton administration is now thinking, this is from Jeremy in Bakersfield, is now thinking of levying a sin tax on unmarried couples who live together.
I don't think there has been a single issue in the past that has made me so angry.
Art, I'm 23.
I've got a six-year-old son.
Yes, my fiancé and I are too young to have a child now, but we're already across the bridge and we can't go back.
I've got a pretty good job as a night supervisor at this 24-hour coffee shop and make a decent living.
Now, maybe some of the rest of you can help me out with this, but I had not heard, I had not heard the Clinton administration plans to levy a tax, really, on unmarried couples who live together?
No kidding.
That's very interesting, and I would like confirmation of that, and I haven't heard it anywhere else.
That is strange, isn't it?
Two more quick questions, and I think we'll do open lines.
Art Bell, I have a topic suggestion for your show: How about the strangest ways to die?
Not very long ago, a fisherman in some foreign country died because he had a fish jump down into his throat while he was fishing during a long yawn.
In other words, he went and a fish jumped down his throat.
He was asphyxiated, died after his comrades tried to save him, presumably trying to grab the tail of the fish, I guess, and pull it out, assuming it went in headfirst.
I've also heard of an armored car guard killed because a ton, that's a ton, of quarters fell upon him, crushing the life force from the system that drove the blood through his veins.
One other strange death.
A sanitation worker fell into the pit of dung and drowned.
Oh, that would be an awful way to go.
He used another word here, not dung, but you get the idea.
That's from Ron in Calabasas Hills, California.
Those are strange ways to die, indeed.
I particularly don't like the fish.
Can you imagine taking a big yawn and having a fish leap out of the water and jump down your throat?
Yuck.
And then one other person emailed me and said, Art, ask your audience, and this might be a very interesting question, if you had the opportunity to ask the deity of your belief one question, one question, or another way to put it, and I don't mind putting it this way, if you had an opportunity to ask God one question, what would it be?
You know, I hesitate to use the word truthfully because you know God isn't going to lie to you, right?
But if you had an opportunity to ask God one question, what pray tell would that question be?
Hmm?
In a moment, open lines.
I cannot yet give you the call letters, but I can tell you that beginning this coming Monday, we go on the air in Washington, D.C. Cool, uh-huh.
This coming Monday, we go on the air in Washington, D.C.
I have been authorized to tell you that much.
And we will be on the air in Washington, D.C. get this East Coast time from 2 in the morning until 7 in the morning.
7 in the morning.
Now, this is a good-sized station.
It covers all of D.C. like a blanket and the majority of the state of Virginia as well.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Now, they can already hear us in Washington, D.C. through the auspices of some other affiliates.
But this one is going to be right there, and we're going to be on the air till 7 o'clock in the morning.
So that means that we're going to be able to talk to the people in D.C. As a matter of fact, we're going to be able to talk to them as they roll their way to work in the beltway traffic jams.
So I'm looking forward to that, as you might imagine.
That's going to be fun.
And that all begins Monday, Washington, D.C., the nation's capital.
That should be pretty cool.
As the program continues to expand and expand and expand incredibly.
So once again, if you had an opportunity to ask God or Ross Mitchell one question, one question, what would it be?
East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
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Yes, I want to say something about that tax on unmarried couples.
The presumption of the question here, sir, is that he would answer you no matter what you asked.
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Okay, my question then would be, would you allow me to live for the length of time it would take you to tell me everything that has happened and everything that will happen in the universe?
We would have to have the ISS, the Internal Sexual Service.
The whole thing's nuts.
I appreciate the call, sir.
Look, I don't know.
I say again, and I will read it again, but this is, according to this factser, Jeremy in Bakersfield, ABC did report, this is Jeremy now, saying that ABC reported, the Clinton administration is thinking of levying a syntax on unmarried couples who live together.
Boy, I tell you, I wanted to get through to you so bad last night.
I thought I was going to explode when that lady called you about this build more schools.
And I would venture to say, if she's out there somewhere listening tonight, there's two items I wanted to talk about.
The first one is, I'd venture to say that if there were enough people like her, what she doesn't seem to realize is if you stop the defense program and start building schools, the other nations are going to look at us like a hungry lion.
Really, I would not have, and I wouldn't now mind if she called and expressed that opinion.
I might take issue with her, and everything would be fine.
The problem I had with her was that she was saying that because I wanted a defense shield, I was a warmonger, and she was putting words in my mouth, and that drove me up a tree.
Open lines all night long tonight, and I've got a couple of items for you here in a moment.
Right now, back to my caller.
You're back on the air, sir.
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Well, hi.
One thing I wanted to, there are two little quick things here.
One was on our television, our ABC affiliate here a couple days ago, they asked a question on a talkback type thing.
Would you pay more money to fly in an airplane if the security if you would you if the security was tighter?
Would you pay more money?
And I sat down and I thought to myself, I just flew out to Los Angeles not long ago, and on a 757, there's close to 300 people on the plane, and each of them, I would say on average, I paid a lot more than that because I bought my ticket at the last minute.
Well, they turned it into a complete farce and they made Roswell look like an opportunistic little town that made up a fake UFO crash so they could get revenue because they were starving to death.
Well, actually, I've kind of renewed my interest in it.
My second book, I had a whole couple of chapters on Atlantis and where it would be today, where it is today, from information we got out of the oil exploration files and microfilm from over in Saudi Arabia.
And I just got an email here last week from some guy over in Dubai that I think he listens to your program somehow or another.
I don't know how, but he was telling me that you'd been talking about that, and he knew I'd written about it, and it was somewhere near Saudi Arabia, the Persian Gulf that I had stayed in.
And so we've entered into a discourse to try to figure out how to spur some of the Saudi rich houses or the Bahrainis to let a group come back in and show them where their national treasure is, all of Atlantis there, the whole Saudi peninsula.
But the real archaeological treasure and technical treasure, I think, is all in the ante quarter, the Ruub Khali, of southern Saudi Arabia, which is all desert and petrified forests and ancient, ancient stone buildings and mine shafts and that kind of stuff.
That's where it is.
There's heaps of treasure there just digging, you know, in the sand.
I was talking to Cousteau's people on board the Alcyon with Captain Dorasov in 1989 about going in.
And, you know, we had the problem with the Gulf War come up, and nobody could take a ship in the area without fear of a bubble mine breaking it in half.
Raising, if we do it with Cousteau's people, they reckon it'll take $3 million a week to support the diving crew and take them back to Europe on a five-day rotation.
We'd have to dredge some areas to do that.
The underwater one's very expensive.
Failing that, if we can just get the official ruling bodies of at least Saudi Arabia to say, yeah, look, we'll give you a king's ex to come in here and talk about these things, even though they're kind of threatening our religion or whatever, and come on in and we'll carry you around.
We did get close a couple years back to getting the ruling family there to sponsor us in, but it kind of fell in the heap for some reason, and we haven't renewed it until this year.
The data I've been getting has had a lot of cloud cover because of storms.
And so it's rather patchy.
But what I can see for North America, which I'm sure you're interested in, is that there are a number of thermal increases north and west of the Great Lakes up near Canada, which are huge thermal increases.
There's a sub-sea volcano that's I think it's about 3,000 feet, the top of 3,000 feet under or something like that under the ocean surface, is apparently about to build again.
It may just be a magma flow or it could be a disruptive explosion.
But certainly my spotters who live on the island and near Kilaueau, the Kilaueau event, are keeping a close eye because it's going to rock their boat if it's anything bigger.
Look, as I told you before, I really think that what you've got there is real parts from something at Roswell because in 1962, I think it was, or 61, whenever I was talking to that young fella in Dallas, his dad recovered something that had layers or pieces to it.
Until I saw that in your report, till that last piece came in with a layered surface, I wasn't sure, but boy, I'm convinced.
Yeah, well, I was indirectly associated with some of those programs years ago myself.
Oh, you were?
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's how, yeah, yeah.
We were kind of like brainwashed, is what it amounts to.
But the program did have failures, and a number of the people, according to my trainers, said that they said that certain of the people died because of the way they rearrange your mind.
You can almost tune your thoughts like the radio by getting into a, I forget what it's called, an alpha state or what, but anyway, just before you wake up in the morning when you're just semi-conscious, you can project out and start to eavesdrop.
But what they showed or what they did to us never enabled me to know who I was eavesdropping on.
I was just able to draw the information of the data from various research.
I think we call it tapping into a global database or something.
But I even recounted the story in the Cosmic Conspiracy book I wrote in the interviews with the director of the Aeronautical Research Labs in Melbourne, Australia.
This lady spent a year with or four months with them, and all kinds of interesting things happened.
And there was even a thing going on where the Australian government was trying to poo-poo her findings about him.
They're trying to bury him or whatever.
Were you aware of the politics of that?
What's the name of the book?
I'll find it here.
My Marlowe, sorry, I don't have it right in front of me.
But she spent four months with her, went back in the desert with them and learned their ways.
And the most hilarious part of it was that they actually are capable of using mental telepathy and even a former remote viewing.
But whenever they were taken to the city and they saw someone talking on a payphone, one of them said, you modern people are not too modern if you have to put a piece of metal in a box to talk to someone you can't see.
I have a friend actually just down the street here who did his PhD on a lot of the tribal mechanisms, and he's lived with them and walked with them for three years.
They do some incredible things, but they have science or pharmacy that is absolutely astounding.
I remember one time he was telling me about going off with him up to the northwest, up into the toward the equator, the top side of Australia, near Queensland.
And they were walking along, and they were about a day and a half walk from the coast, from the sea.
And they were going up there to eat some sea worms, which are quite tart and several feet long, and they're gelatinous kind of a treat.
But a day and a half from getting there, the Abbos stopped with him in this clay pit, and they started getting kaolin-type clay and shoving it into their kit bag and saying to him, take clay with you.
So they packed it in, and a day and a half later, they're out there eating the worms.
Well, before they eat the worms, they would eat some of this clay.
And he says, you know what?
If you don't eat this clay, it's dolomite, you know, calcium, magnesium oxide, if you don't eat it, you get the most incredible case of runs from eating these worms.
But they knew that they had to eat this stuff to stop the runs before they ate these worms.
And, you know, they've got all kinds of pharmacy they use that just astounds us.
All right, listen, Tran, we're up here at the top of the hour, so I'm going to put you on hold.
You can go relax for about eight minutes or something.
And we'll come back and do another hour.
Standale, surprise from Perth, Australia.
By the way, with respect to the question that I had asked earlier, if you could ask God one question, I've got a response from Whittier, California, from Veda.
Veda and Whittier says, Dear Art, if I had a chance to ask God one question, I'd ask why he made celery low calorie and hot fudge sundays high calorie.
Seems it would have been just as easy to reverse them.
She makes a good point.
And it would have made life so much easier for those of us on earth.
But then again, maybe God in his wisdom decided that why should it be easy for them?
You know, they had it that way in the garden, and now they're out.
So we'll reverse it.
Maybe it was that way in the garden.
We'll be back.
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The trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting Coast to Coast AM.
More Somewhere in Time coming up.
Somewhere in Time.
Tonight, featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from July 24, 1996.
It certainly is surprise guest Stan Dale from Perth, Australia, on our international line, and I thought I would let you ask him some questions.
Stan has a fascinating background.
Big announcement.
Beginning Monday, we go on the air in Washington, D.C.
I wonder what they're going to think of all this back in D.C. Anyway, back to Stan Dale, and if you have questions for him about Australia or about his work, and he's done some pretty strange stuff, including remote viewing, then we will get to them in a moment.
Art, please tell Stan that I was one of those people who turned on your show and heard the incredibly fantastic story that Stan was telling about his days in the Air Force Academy.
Unconventional black aircraft based on UFO technology.
Would you be willing to say any more about that or repeat a little bit of it?
I must correct the caller here that the black technology as such was not in the aircraft, was not at the Air Force Academy.
That was being done over west in the United States and down at the South Pole as far as I was instructed.
When I left the Academy, I went down to Dallas, got into business in computing down there with some of the IBM customers.
And in the process, I was doing private research at home in my own lab on anti-gravity propulsion and this kind of stuff, making some rather remarkable strides with things that I just kind of dreamed up in the morning, the early hours of the day.
I couldn't figure out where the equations and drawings were coming from, but I'd get up and write them down.
And somewhere along that time in 1971, I think it was, I was approached by a second for Dr. James R. Maxfield, who has the Radiation Research Clinic in Dallas, in Oak Lawn, I think it is.
And he used to work with Dr. Teller openly at the Lawrence Livermore Radiation Labs.
Now, I was sent to Dr. Maxfield, and just one-on-one, I went into his office, and he explained a lot of things to me about what they had done, he and Maxfield and the various other projects they had sponsored or overseen to build flying saucer-type craft since the mid-50s.
I emphasize that this does not explain away UFOs, flying saucers, etc.
Before that time, this is only at that time that they were talking about making our own to copy something that other people had seen.
Now, There are two kinds of flying saucers, if you wish, as far as I know, man-made ones anyway.
And that is a plasma craft, which is a saucer-shaped craft, which has a hole in the middle of it going through it.
And it allows the air to be accelerated and charged and heated so that it squirts out in front of the aircraft on the top of it and bends around to form like a doughnut or smoke ring type encasing flow of air around and through the craft to give it kind of a breaststroke through the environment.
That was the kind that I had started designing when they got me and brought me in.
They had already had some 52, I think it was, projects by that time that had done it a number of other ways.
And eventually I was shown photographs, color Polaroid photographs, of an assembly area where the new electromagnetic or electrogravitic craft were being assembled.
And I could see how they wound the huge flat bar flat wire coil that was the main drive coil like a pharaoh's hat around the primary cockpit for where the crew was.
And there's a lot of things I've learned since then that I've either dug out or it's been handed to me by the folks.
Well, unfortunately, all I can see is in the water temperature changes around the coast of any country.
I do feel from what I've seen west and north of the Great Lakes in the water up there offshore of Canada, and from what I've seen down around Florida and Texas, Louisiana, that area in the southern part of New Madrid, that there is a lot of thermal change present there.
It is growing.
And at this point, I can't tell you more than that.
I mean, I've seen worse.
But there are earthquakes occurring up that area now and some over in Washington.
And the question is, when the COVID Hayakotake was coming overhead, I was looking at it and the next day started picking up ESP signals of focular transmissions.
And I want to ask Stan if he believes in the possibilities of transmitting with ESP to Alpha Centaurian realms that are coming from far beyond.
Well, that's a good question because the people that I was recruited by, even though they are in corporations and do have government clearances, seem to be acting independently of the civilian U.S. government and more in line with the Army or the Navy with the military aspects of it.
I'm not sure how much our politicians really know about what's going on.
So when you say government, I will qualify that and say U.S. industry or industrial complexes and or military, yes, they probably have been doing something there in the region you speak of, Area 51, but I think the majority of it has been done safely down under the South Pole or at the South Pole for a number of years.
Just much less likelihood of detection while it was being developed.
Well, as a guinea pig, I can only kind of talk at it from that perspective.
But from what I heard from some of the other fellows that didn't make it, I would say that the technique they used to develop this in people does not work well on everyone.
There may be better techniques for different people.
So all I can say is that not every one of us, in fact, a high percentage of us, did not function well with the way they were trying to give us the remote viewing.
Secondly, I don't know whether it increased my IQ or not.
Certainly, it increased my knowledge database because I could draw on so many things.
You know, it's like having a magic wand or a crystal ball to look at things and an encyclopedia that speaks to you in color.
But no, myself, I don't think I'm any brighter than I was when I was a young fellow.
Well, the major said when he was in the military doing remote viewing, they began to pick up the vision of babies dying.
Many babies dying.
And this was related to some sort of virus that was going to come from mother's milk or some sort of virus, I believe he said, from mother's milk.
The other thing that he said he saw in the next few years was tremendous winds, that the jet stream would literally, in his words, come down on deck and there would be winds of up to 300 miles an hour.
Now, I also had on a man named Courtney Brown, who in his own way confirmed what Major Dames said with regard to the big winds and many people dying.
He had a slightly different take on it, but have you heard of any of this?
Yeah, we would freeze over and just go into an ice-cube state.
So we have to have the sunlight.
What I'm trying to get to is this.
There is growing concern, very much so, about the stability of the output of our sun.
It is increasing.
It is a variable energy output star now.
It's been upgraded.
Now, we are reasonably certain from ancient writings and from astronomers as well that there will be a time when we see a double sun, whether it be from cloud occlusion or dust or smoke, or whether it actually be the sun itself, the phase state changing where we have a core that's brighter than the outer shell, and it looks like two.
I don't know.
We do know that the energy is picking up from the sun, and this could very well increase our global warming.
Well, let me tell you how serious it is in the U.S. Through our farm belt, there were reports on our networks here, Stan, that our farm belt is in the process, get this, of turning into a desert.
Stan, I've got somebody here who desperately would like an address, a telephone number, and or a postal address to get in touch with you or an email address.
What can you give people to get in touch with you?
And Stan, I would like to read you a bit of the report.
Here's what happened.
We've got a scientist, a very prestigious scientist, working on what we call arts parts.
It got to the point, Stan, where there were only about three or four locations that could do an isotope study on these parts, specifically the magnesium bismuth-layered piece, the very strange piece we've got.
So Linda Moulton Howe and myself split the costs.
Linda flew down to Washington, D.C. to the Carnegie Institute in Washington, D.C., where they did an isotope analysis.
Now, the metals generally checked out to be within range of that which you would expect to find on Earth.
But I'm reading now from the report, most striking anomaly of the testing was the amount of ions emitted by our sample.
As Dr. Eric Hurry states in paragraph one of his report, the bismuth-magnesium sample gave count rates of Mg plus ions, which were enhanced by 60 times normal over pure magnesium metal standard.
So it is a very, very striking anomaly indeed.
I mentioned to Richard Hoagland the results, and he said, well, you know what you've got there, don't you?
He said, the next thing you've got to do is a crystalline test, which they are going to perform.
And he said, what you're probably going to find is if they apply a high voltage up to a million volts to this piece, that sucker is going to rise right up off the kitchen table.
Well, the assessment I can't argue with because I haven't had anything to, like any testing to do myself, but I will go later after we get off the air.
I got Townsend Brown's lab notes from the time when he was in the Bonson Corporation in Salem, just after the French experiments.
And I do remember they were playing with a number of metals in their devices there.
And I have the film, the 51-minute 60-millimeter color film from the lab day by day during that period of 1958 to 59, late 59.
So I will try to see what I can dig up off the blackboards there and off of the notebooks.
Stan, the other question about stationary aircraft and the patent at Aption, where they said they had an aircraft that was stationary for 10,000 hours, I believe, is what it was.
Stan, is it possible to develop as an individual or as a young child through hypnosis, the remote viewing?
And if so, which it appears what I've been able to do, and now I'm 48, and since I've been five years old, I've been using hypnosis to go to sleep by focusing in on unsolved problems.
And about 25 years ago, I was given an image, if you will, of a seven-level theory of everything, if you will.
By that, I'm saying it deals with energy as substantive.
It takes and develops a wave.
The waves interact to form a harmonic matrix at level three.
The matrix units interact at level four to form particles.
The particles then, of course, on up the up on up the ladder.
Now, the individual waves at level two, created at level four, if you will, actually form the basis for the conditions of each of the four fundamental forces and the development of particles from there.
When I heard your reporting on the bismuth, one of the things that I have been working on in night was the use of a magnetic field, stationary magnetic field, one moving and one stationary, and being able to block one magnetic field with the other.
In other words, if you had two North Poles and one in motion coming up to it, by blocking the field in a compression mode as with an engine, and then releasing the block, then you would be able to generate power.
Well, to begin with, what you the first question I think was something to do with your ability to have remote viewing from childhood using hypnosis, a form of it.
Yes.
Certainly, I know they used hypnosis on us as teenagers when they were training us at the academy and after that.
So, yes, I suppose it's possible.
I have used the technique you're talking about as well for a number of years as I go to sleep.
And possibly that's what keeps it going.
I don't know.
The magnetic field things, hmm, hard for me to say.
The crop circle photos that Art has on these on the webpage there, the recent ones over at Stonehenge, and the one that looks like a double DNA thing, looks, in my opinion, more like the double DNA thing, like a wave interaction between two nuclear or celestial bodies.
It looks more like atoms with waves probably 90 degrees out of phase or so.
Using wave theory, I think that there's a lot more that we can learn from the universe that we're in, a lot more effects and new techniques that we can discover.
So unfortunately, I haven't done what you're speaking of, so I don't know whether it will work or what will happen.
All right, Boyd, before we go on, I just received a fax from somebody named Jan in French Polynesia, believe it or not, Stan.
It says, Hi, Art.
I've got a question for Stan in Australia.
This is Tahiti, he says, and several of our outer islands of French Polynesia suffered serious damage this last weekend when four to six meter waves swept through the territory.
These high seas came from the roaring 40s south of the Austral Islands.
Does he know if there were any recent earthquakes in the area that would have caused this reaction?
He's been trying to call in and hasn't made it yet.
There have been some quakes in the area in the south 40s.
I'll just have to, as we speak, drag up the images for a week ago.
But yes, that area down there has been very active.
I don't know why.
It hasn't been showing terribly brilliantly on our thermal change charts, so it must be very deep, say like under 600 miles deep, and perhaps moving closer to the surface.
It would be on a line if you took to South America to the little crook where Chile is, you know, the top of Chile where there's a little bend in the the west coast of South America.
Draw a line straight across from there over and underneath the the bottom portion of the Aleutian Islands.
Where those two cross, there was a probably looks like about a Richter six or so earthquake.
I haven't quite got the hard charts in front of me.
Well, the Everglades, you know, that's over land, really, sort of.
And I can only look at these vectors.
In fact, I'm looking at them right now as of about 18 hours ago.
If you're looking at a map of Florida, the tip of it that's closest to Cuba, there is a thermal temperature increase there of about 3 degrees centigrade up.
And it's over an area about gosh, what to compare it to.
Anyway, it's on the southern tip there, equal to about the area of the southern tip.
But if you go up close to where you're going to join the mainland, in the Atlantic side, there's a cooling in the water.
On the Gulf side, there's a heating all along the coast, and looking like it's moving inland and perhaps into the area you're talking about.
Yes, to Stan, back to a little bit earlier talking about ideas that he got.
Do you feel that those ideas that you get in the morning time frames might have been something that you've started gleaning from your training that you received for remote viewing?
As I said, I never knew that I was in anybody's mind or anything like that.
It was like it was a huge database without personality, and it was like three-dimensional color movies that you could move in by command.
And certainly, this could have been some kind of a post-hypnotic or a post-indoctrination or training event.
I don't know how to separate the two unless we go back in with hypnosis again and dig it out.
And I've never been that keen to do it again.
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Yeah, that's what I was curious about that.
And then the other question I had for Art was in regards to a gentleman you had on your show several weeks ago discussing energy sources and cold fusion.
I think it was Dr. Brown.
Yes.
Are you going to be having him on the show anytime soon?
Art, please ask Dan Deo, and I don't know what I'm talking about here, but I'm going to read this.
If an aerodynamic craft employing fast-moving paired electrons, superconductive in other words, over the top of a craft triangular or whatever, could produce less air pressure above the craft, in effect producing lift from the greater air pressure below.
If indeed bismuth is a medium used for paired electrons, allowing movement in the holes created by 4F and 3D overlapping, would not this allow for paired electrons to be used in this system?
Yes, he's talking about the valence shell overlap.
And yes, I suppose they could.
They could.
It's a natural extension to use this entrainment or breast-stroking vectoring moving from plasma gases into paired electrons and into what produces magnetic fields, I think, between atoms.
So, yeah, in fact, I think probably that's what we're looking at, something similar to that, yes.
Unfortunately, I've managed before it got too public to get it scattered geographically and in various scientific hands.
The question I've got for you is, what do you think they, in quotes, how do you think they, in quotes, are going to react to this breaking story as it continues?
Art, I'm not sure that they are going to be that unhappy about it, really.
I've maintained for some time that when the announcement does come of what's been covered up, it's going to have to be done in a manner to avoid the plebs picking up their pitchforks and storming on Washington.
It's got to be done in a manner that they will accept the fact that they haven't been told for so long as whatever excuse put forward is acceptable.
They may protest loudly, but I think they will let it come out in that respect and let the people think they've won the battle and feel justified or vindicated from it.
Yeah, and he tells you, I don't want to go public with this.
I don't want any trouble.
So I'm going to use a pseudonym, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And then he tells you enough information in almost the first letter about we're on maneuvers and the East Coast here, and I'm in this, and my grandfather was assigned to that unit.
One of the hotels, the Sofitel Ioora, was destroyed of several of the overwater bungalows that they were building, the overwater restaurant and Pierre.
On the island of Huahini, there was a lot of damage to hotels and homes, and of course roads being swept away.
And the island of Borobora, we've had quite a bit of damage there.
One hotel, which is one of our top hotels, international class hotels, the Moana Beach, Borobora, will be closed now for until maybe November.
They had just added 10 overwater bungalows.
This is a five-star hotel.
And Mautiti, Rayatea, all of these little these islands suffered some damage.
The S Leewood Society Islands and the Wynwood Islands of the Societies.
While she was talking, I just ran today's change map for that area, and it's cooling down from something kind of a C, like the letter C shape that's run through that region with a temperature increase next to a temperature decrease in the Solomons.
I wouldn't have picked that area from what I see today as extremely prone to a quake or volcano.
But again, I must stress that area is really quite interesting because the activity seems to be, the seismic activity seems to be about 600 miles down on the average, which makes it hard for us to detect it the way we're doing it.
But people using magnetic fields can probably detect it better.
I'm going to have to contact some people in the States and see what they have for that area.
There have been in the last 24 hours about eight major ones anywhere, at least that they showed up on the USGS plot, south of the Kilaway event, probably about 100 miles or so.
What's the waves that they were talking about in Tahiti?
I mean, we're also getting waves here, not as big as they're talking about in Tahiti, but we've had some real nice six-day-foot waves going the last few days.
If you get onto my webpage and go to the naval feeds for wave heights, planetary across the planet for the entire ocean, you will see that we will get up to something like 12 meters or like what's that, about 36-foot wave heights in the center of these storms where the low pressure is.
All I can say is I've listened to it, and I wondered myself.
Certainly there are ancient writings that do speak of changes that will occur in time even as we get closer to the end of this age.
Things will appear to be quicker.
I mean, just like art says, the quickening.
Even the biblical account says it's like a woman in childbirth getting toward the end.
Things go faster and faster.
And some of the Aboriginal dances and the American Indian dances of prophecy get faster and faster tempos toward the end of the dance for this time, indicating the speeding up of things, the quickening.
unidentified
Right.
And it just seems that those that are doomed to, or those that don't remember their history are doomed to repeat it.
And it just seems like history seems to be rewriting itself in different ways.
I mean, is this some sort of concentration meditation thing that will give you power?
Is that the idea?
unidentified
Well, it says this.
They originate out of Henderson, Nevada, right in your backyard there.
Of course.
And then there's a thing printed by, it says the ad hoc committee to halt the publication and circulation in America of a subversive literature called Zond.
do you do you have any you're you're in a very interesting area there in the caribbean uh...
from a seismic point of view So do you have any questions?
unidentified
Well, I don't have any questions, but I have some information from some native people that live in New Zealand and from Native people that live in the Iroquois nations.
They had warned me several years ago that there was going to be problems in these areas, apparently.
I don't know how they would know something like that, but they did warn me about it.
Well, which areas were those?
In the Caribbean and in the areas around New Zealand.
It's weird, but you must remember that many cultures of the Aboriginal Indians and natives in Africa and here in Australia have this ability to look forward in time.
You just can't deny the fact that they see these things.
unidentified
In any case, I find it very strange because there are these cultures that say they have the ability to release these strange forces into the world and create destruction.
Well, I don't know whether I've been promoted to professional, but anyway, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that yes, the Earth's magnetic field is affected by behavior of the solar magnetic field and the solar wind.
Case in point, I mean, a few months back, Art, you and I were talking about a magnetic field variation where the compass moved 22 degrees suddenly.
Well, now, I called, after that, I called the various government organizations that do this for a living, and I talked to a number of them and found out that, yes, due to an interaction between the solar wind, charged magnetic particles from the sun, with our atmosphere and with our magnetopause, we do get isolated magnetic storms like that that will tweak your compass 20-some odd degrees, even up to 30 sometimes for a few hours and then back.
It's just localized magnetic storms, and they are a nuisance, and they can cause plane wrecks and all kinds of stuff.
If we do have the kind of behavior in the sun that I suspect personally is going to happen shortly, we'll have a number of things happen, but I'm sure that it will affect our magnetic field to the point that we could see an axis shift.
And I say soon, say in the next 10 years, maybe less.
Nothing really major over 4.4 that I can see at the moment.
unidentified
Mr. Bell?
Yes.
I think it might be worthy to note that the cloud formation was extremely unusual and that an individual who works at the airport here in Anchorage, Alaska reported that all of the radios, they call them lead radios, that are used by the people that load the luggage on the airport, on the airplane and things, because they're all lithium battery operated, they all went dead simultaneously.
Actually, up in your area, even though the earthquake was not major, you know, by, I guess, what our standards would be, but I noticed something on my thermal change maps which indicates there's certainly a lot of thermoelectric energy changing hands all the way up from the Aleutians up into Alaska and inland.
Well, I just wanted to say that I guess I'm a physics major.
I'm a graduate student working on my master's.
And it kind of irks me sometimes when I know your listeners mean well when they call in about science and stuff like that, but they tend to, I guess, get the facts.
I listen to it on headphones while we're on the air.
unidentified
But it's unbelievable the way the internet's going.
But actually, why I'm calling is I'm looking for a good radio, and I was kind of frustrated because you had advertised one over your show many times, and it had a 1-800 number that would not work here in Canada.
Well, gosh, I don't even I don't even know what's happening there other than the earthquakes.
Normally before any volcano, you will get tremors as the the magma moves up and starts to push on the plug to release.
You can have a nice gentle magma, not eruption, but like flow, you know, just a pyroclastic flow come up and build higher and higher mountains.
And that's a nice way for the pressure leave.
If, however, some water leaks in or there's a cavity of water down near the pyroclastic flow, you could have an explosive volcano, which would then make this sudden wave that they're worried about and could wet a few feet or more.
Sometimes I'm a first-time caller, and I don't get to listen every night, but I've been listening quite some time.
And I think when Stan first started coming on your program, is he the guest that predicted like a ring of fire for these eruptions, volcanic eruptions and earthquakes?
Of course, now they've got the black boxes, so I would hope for everybody's sake that if there is information, and there should be, important information to glean from them, that we get it quickly.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, it's just the caveat that they threw on the news that they're hoping they can get it.
They're even leaving themselves an out in the event that they're damaged or to such a point where they can't even get it.
And I listened to an interview with the new Israeli Prime Minister a couple weeks ago, and I felt that he stated it best that terrorism, the problem of terrorism in the Middle East and the United States is essentially the same.
That is, in order for it to be effective, it has to be supported by an outside sovereign state.
Once you've taken out an engine, pieces and parts are going to fly all over the place.
You've got an explosion that could ignite the fuel.
So the reports I heard say a streak of light followed by a white explosion, which would mean high explosive, followed by a ball of orange flame, which would indicate fuel.
Uh-huh.
So, I don't know.
unidentified
Who knows?
Yeah, and then the reason the Navy is the one conducting the complete underwater search, and maybe that's why the black boxes stopped pinging for the two days.
Yes, that apparently is being regarded, according to the newspaper article, as not a hoax.
unidentified
No, that's no.
What I have gathered from people who have gone there is that the man was out there doing his crops and stuff, taking care of them, and he came upon a hundred-yard strip, straight strip, where they were broken off over, like perfectly broken off.
And then at the end of the strip was the circle where the craft had evidently landed.
Tempted, but the guy, they had the guy on a radio station the other night, or yesterday morning, and he said that he couldn't wait anymore, that he had to harvest those crops.
So I hope he's not going to destroy that, you know?
Yeah, so Ted Turner stands to lose a lot of money with his CNN, and then probably Ted Turner's, you know, filtering the news to the benefit of all his investments in the world.
You're certainly correct about one thing, and that is that news of terrorism, confirmed terrorism, would have a very, very chilling effect on the Olympics.
But would they keep it secret because of that?
God, I wouldn't want to think so.
I wouldn't want to believe that, would you?
You know, as I get older, I'm getting more cynical about it all the time.
Well, I'm calling in regards to the lady who called you last night, and she was talking about how you shouldn't defend yourself or whatever and called you a haymonger or whatever.
The thing I wanted to point out is, you know, with all this weather changing stuff right now, the weather changing and everything, that it wouldn't be out of the question for uh, weird atmospheric conditions.
Yeah, like they can't find anything um, man-made.
Well, let's say that uh, like uh, a tornado, it just it.
They do drop and they do touch, and it's not uncommon for more than one.
As you're talking about, you know, light and the effect of it, you know, the photon theory of light is there, you know, but it's always been a question about that, whether or not there's a conflict of the electromagnetic theory and the photon theory.
But, you know, we'll call it Bob's effect.
But if you take a microbalance and out of the electronic microbalance and out to the fifth place on empty pan, light will attract the pan, either pan, either up or down.
Okay, 3D-wise, okay, because the plane is traveling at a maximum stress on its members because those engines are going full bar as it's gaining altitude.
But anyway, the the fuel explosion is just a little bit behind the aircraft, but the aircraft is also getting sprayed with engine veins and of course under maximum stress and your thing starts to break up and of course the slip stream would would continue to tear it to pieces real quick.
Well, it is true that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
But still, as a general circumstance, if you make a comparison, standard of living, whatever else, what other standard you want to use, America is far, far ahead of most of the rest of the world.
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Yes, but the people in America, the way it breaks down with wealth belonging to the few and what's left belonging to the greater mass, it's really out of balance.
And that's why I don't understand the right wing, because they just want to keep on tipping that balance into the favor of the rich more and more and more.
Predatory to me is taking from those who have earned, toiled, made money, and giving it to those who are sitting on their butts.
That's predatory.
unidentified
No, no, that's not true.
If you understand the economic conditions, you understand that people are unemployed and with low wages because the people that are controlling the money and the power and the country are taking too much.
Actually, that's why I called because I was under the impression that she was trying to say that the theory of not evolution, but the how does that go again?
The might, not the might, the survival of the fittest was more had nothing really to do with military.
That's what I thought she was trying to say, and that you had turned it around to make it seem that it was a military theory.
I might be mistaken.
No, that's pretty good.
You know, it's a false idea that might makes right.
I mean, look what happened to Germany.
I mean, Hitler had that idea.
Because in my interpretation, that sanitation is what is one of the things that keeps a society or a more than just a society, but sanitation is crucial.
And that's even, I guess, in the Bible in a way, because you could have as big a military as you want, and then when there's a viral outbreak, goodbye.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that the Republicans are going headlong into worsening the situation and worsening it and worsening it.
And I'm so worried that it's not now, but in a short time when, for instance, these cutbacks on the poor, in two years, these people are going to be in the streets.
It's a lot of distribution, but it's just, you know, all these politicians and when she says rich, I don't think she just means like somebody who's got a lot of money, but we're talking about the corporate world here, the huge corporations, and they just amass these huge fortunes at the expense of every person on the planet.