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Feb. 2, 1996 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Mayan Calender - Krsana Duran - Ma Bell

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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell Summer in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening and good morning on what is going to be a very different, intriguing kind of night tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the west out in the Tahitian and Hawaiian Islands, east into the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands, south into South America, north, all the way to the Pole.
unidentified		This is Post to Coast AM.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Mark Bell.
		Now, there are going to be a whole bunch of things that are going to happen this morning, but I'm going to begin by making a number of announcements.
		So please, everybody, bear with me.
		It happened, actually, we finished up, I'm guessing, about five minutes before airtime.
unidentified		That's how close it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Those of you who are computer users who know what you're doing.
		Now, this really is going to require those who know pretty much what they're doing.
		Our video phone software is ready for you.
		And here's what I want to happen.
		You need a 486 DX50, I would say, at minimum.
		486 DX50 or better.
		A Pentium would be wonderful, but if you don't have that, a 486DX50 will handle it.
		It might go on a 33, I'm not sure.
		What we're going to do is turn a lot of you into beta testers tonight.
		So here's the drill.
		It's the video phone, and here's how it works.
		You download the software that I'm going to tell you about here in a second.
		It is an EXE file, and I'll tell you about that.
		It's a self-extracting EXE file.
		It's not that big.
		You download it.
		You put it into any directory you like.
		This is for the people who know about computers out there.
		And then you bring it into Windows.
		And then you dial the number.
		And when you do, you will see and, if you have a sound blaster, hear me.
		Both see and hear me.
		And we're still kind of in the testing development stage, but we are now ready to involve the general public.
		So I'm going to give you a telephone number of our bulletin board.
		I would hope that some of you would immediately grab the file and put it on the webpage on the internet.
		I would expect that it'll show up on the internet in about 24 to 48 hours.
		I didn't have time to do that, but it is now on our bulletin board, and I'm going to tell you how to get there.
		And so there will be people viewing me during the evening hours this evening, if it works.
		And I had just a brief moment to test it before we began.
		I'm telling you, this occurred just minutes before airtime.
		So if you would like to be, in effect, a beta tester for us on a brand new technology, video telephone in color with sound over regular telephone lines or POTS, plain old telephone service, call our bulletin board right now.
		And to the best of my knowledge, this has never been done before.
		We are breaking new ground.
		And so would be glad to have you do it.
		It will automatically dial a special number.
		I'm not going to give that number out over the air.
		I repeat, I am not going to give that number out over the air.
		It is in the software.
		So call that number in the software.
		The file that you want is called VID, as in video, VID.exe.
		Let me repeat that.
		Vid.exe.
		And it is located, you know, when you go into our bulletin board, you go down to the main section, you hit J space 11, and you will find VID.exe in the main number one area, the files area, or you will find it in the C-Crane Company area.
		And I want you all to bear in mind that we're just breaking brand new ground with this.
		It's very exciting.
		And maybe we'll get a chance to talk to somebody who has managed to see me.
		So there it is, ladies and gentlemen.
		I promised it for Friday night, Saturday morning with a hope and a prayer.
		And believe me, on a hope and a prayer, we just barely, barely got it done thanks to the help of a lot of very good people.
		So if you want that file, once again, it is now as of about 10 minutes ago on the bulletin board.
		And it is a self-extracting file entitled vid or vid.exe.
		And so those of you who are computer literate, know what you're doing.
		If you don't know what you're doing with a computer, the odds are you're going to have terrible troubles with it.
		If you know what you're doing, it's going to be a snap.
		And that is the advice that I'm going to leave for you right now.
		So I would begin to load up those lines.
		There are many lines available for you to be doing that.
		And I see somebody's already on there.
		It's called VID.exe.
		And I'm going to leave the system up basically all weekend.
		As a matter of fact, welcome, says somebody to me right now on the screen.
		I see you on my 48633, and I'm hearing fine as well.
		This is, well, I don't want to give his name because I don't know if he wants his name on the air.
		And he says the video looks fine.
unidentified		So there you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have fun.
		We will allow a bunch of you to download it and give you a little bit of time.
		And I would imagine in the next two hours, we're going to begin to see a lot of people logging in and calling and taking a look at me doing my program.
		So that is the first and most important announcement.
		That's item one.
		Item two, and I've got to get these out of the way or I'm never going to get them done.
unidentified		Oh, oh yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't let this one go.
		We got the survey for the Las Vegas metropolitan area.
		Now, as many of you know, and many of you won't have any idea, I began and spent 11 years at KDWN in Las Vegas, KDON.
		And then, because of a whole bunch of reasons, did not stay at KDON.
		Well, prior to my syndication, my program had been either number one or number two in the Las Vegas market for years and years and years and years, including right up until the moment I left.
		In the summer of 1995, KDWN was number one rated in my time slot.
		Number one in the summer of 1995.
		In the new survey that has come out, KDWN is now rated number 14.
		KDON went from number one to number 14 in my time slot, losing about 77, that's a 77% change in the amount of audience, 77%.
		Now, in that same time period, our new affiliate, that is 11 o'clock at night to 5 in the morning, our new affiliate, KBEG, moved up three slots, three ranking slots, and increased a 150% change up.
unidentified		That's one book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said I would do it in two books, but we're well on our way with one book.
		One more book in Las Vegas, and this program will be number one, having changed affiliates.
		So again, after we left in one book, Kdon fell from number one rated, got it right in my hand, to number 14 rated.
		And the news station we're on increased 150% change in the upward direction.
		Enough said.
		Now, I guess I've got to get these other things in.
		By the way, the other surveys coming in number one in my time slot in San Diego.
		Thank you, everybody in San Diego.
		Surveys coming in all over the place, coming in number one.
		I'm very thankful for it.
		All over the place.
		I want to quickly give you the telephone number to get a hold of a copy of my book, if you would like it, The Art of Talk.
		I've got a literal blizzard of paperwork around me, and so I'm going to try to get to as much of this as I can.
		Now, we've got a guest to begin the program.
		Later on in the program, my mom, as you know, my mom is visiting, and she's, well, I haven't seen my mom in a long time.
		And so I'm very much looking forward to that.
		And I'm going to put her on the air this morning, later this morning.
		But coming up shortly in a moment, I'm absorbing so much of this half hour, we've got a very special guest.
		And I'll tell you all about her in a moment.
		And I know I'm going to slaughter her name.
		She is Khrisana Duran, and she will talk to us about UFOs, crop circles, the Mayan calendar, particularly the Mayan calendar.
		So I'll tell you more about Khrisana in just a moment.
		You're listening to CBC.
		It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, and it's going to be a wild one, folks.
		There's going to be a million things going on at one time.
		So stay right where you are.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Again, I want to thank everybody who has sweated all of their body parts off to get this video telephone out for demonstration to the American public as quickly as they have.
		Several companies are involved.
		Several people are involved.
		Without their permission, I will not name them, but the Seacrane company, of course, people at the network, people at the company that is behind this, the software writers.
		It's just a whole group of people who have literally broken their necks to get this done, and we got it done five minutes before airtime.
		That close.
		All right.
		Now, Khersana Duran is an author and researcher of crop circles, UFOs, and the Mayan and Dream Spell Calendars.
		We're going to find out what those are.
		Using the information she discovered in two U.S. crop circles that formed a triangle with the sun and moon pyramids near Mexico City, she identified, Mexico City, boys, a lot going on there.
		She identified a 52-day cycle related to lunar eclipses.
		The November 28, 1995 magnetic shift in Sacramento, California occurred on the 52nd day after a lunar eclipse.
		Now based on that cycle, She predicted three dates for storms, power failures, and earthquakes or volcanoes on longitude lines where crop circles have appeared.
		Those events happened on the dates she predicted.
		She has a new book on the message of the crop circles and the pyramids in Mexico, a new history, the once and future earth.
		And we'll be telling you how to get that.
		Let us go now.
		As a matter of fact, I don't even know where she is.
		I suspect somewhere up by the area code, maybe in the American Northwest.
		Krisana, are you there?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Am I slaughtering your name?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		No, you're doing great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Krisana Duran, correct?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Kristana Duran.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Chrisana Duran.
		Okay.
		Krasana, it's hard to know where to begin.
		First of all, I have never fully understood what the Mayan calendar is and how it differs from our calendar.
		So let us begin with the basics because if I don't know, a lot of other people don't know either.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, I'm going to start off.
		I started working with the Mayan concept in 92 after I got involved with Jose Arguez's Dream Spell.
		The Dream Spell is not the Mayan calendar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's based on the same geometry as the Mayan calendar and the same numbers.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		But what it did was, and I'll explain this in a minute, is that it calibrated a time shift into the Mayan calendar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are many people who believe that the Mayan calendar has been misinterpreted and that by what, six or seven years?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
		Yes, and you're going to get a lot of numbers on that.
		And I will tell you that the Mayan calendar is a very complex calendar, that the end dates for that calendar have been projected anywhere from 1957 to 2050.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's back up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where did the Mayan calendar come from?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the Mayan calendar came from the Maya tribe, the Native people in Central America up by Guatemala.
		They appeared as a people, as a distinct tribal entity about 2,000 years ago.
		Before that, they came out of the Olmec native people who date back to about 2,000 B.C. up along the Gulf of Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way is the Mayan calendar different from the one up here on my wall?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, now I'm going to add a couple of things here, okay?
		All right.
		I know you've had Zacharias Sitchin on your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Zacharias Sitchin's last book was called When Time Began.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When Time Began, yes.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And it dealt with the Mayan calendar, and on the premise that the Mayan calendar was actually implemented by the Egyptian-Sumerian Folks, that Foltz was exiled from Egypt around 33100 B.C. and that he went to Mesoamerica.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That when he arrived in Mesoamerica, the Mayan calendar, which is based on the number 52, began to appear in the area, and that Foltz's personal number was 52.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Why is it based on 52?
		In other words, what science is behind that?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, this is what the whole key to the whole subject is.
		The Mayan calendar, basically it has a sacred calendar and a civil calendar.
		The sacred calendar is a 260-day calendar, and the civil calendar is a 360-day calendar.
		And the Maya depicted these two calendars like two cogs that were running together simultaneously, parallel running, and then they synchronized with the same dates every 52 years.
		So if you take your 52 as your base number, which it is, then a 52-day cycle is one 365th of a 52-year cycle.
		So a 52 days is the equivalent of one year in the 52-year cycle.
		So the calendar is based on the number 52.
		And there's been a lot of discussion.
		There's been a lot of debates.
		Why this number 52?
		What's so important about this number 52?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would like to tell you that I now understand, but I don't.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me tell you what I discovered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hold on.
		I ate this last half hour alive.
		I had so many announcements, so we're at a breakpoint.
		And we will come back and we will find out what 52 means.
		All right?
unidentified		Fixed?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		Christana Duran is my guest, and she's going to talk about the Mayan calendar.
		And you're going to, there's a shocking and important reason why you understand this, so stay right where you are.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Music You feel love, I don't love you.
		You always just love Got me on my knees, begging God to be loved.
		Donna, don't you know Try to keep me comfortable with you.
		Oh, man, I'll let you down Oh, man, I'll let you down
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		We are going to make Chrisana tell us in language we can all understand, because I don't quite get it yet, why the Mayan calendar is based on 52, the number 52, and we're going to get to that in a second.
		All right, Crisana?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's try this again now, because I didn't quite get it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Mayan calendar, remember you're talking to people who don't know a thing about this, is based on the number 52.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I still don't quite understand where that number comes from or why it's based on that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, nobody else does either, Art, and that's what the key is.
		Some people say, well, it's because of a 52-year cycle in the Pleiades.
		I'm going to tell you a crop circle sequence okay based on that number two is that it started Oh, Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		right so anyway the bottom line is uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		we've got to make things simple nobody knows why it's Yes, 3113 B.C. All right, so then it's entirely possible that we've lost track of why it's based on 52.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely correct.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next question I've got for you is, is it just a calendar, Chrisana, or are there events scheduled?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		There are events, but aren't, if you, could we go back to the crop circles for a minute?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We may indeed.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		In 1993, there were two major crop circles made in the U.S. One was in Kennewick, Washington, and the other one was in New York State.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I knew about Kennewick and yes, I knew about New York.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Herkimer.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Berkimer, New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We had a report.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And I was keeping track of crop circles in UFO activity at that time.
		I had a world map on the wall, and I was using pens to track activity.
		And I noticed that those two crop circles formed a perfect triangle with the sun and moon pyramid in Mexico City.
		And when I say perfect, I mean on the money.
		If you do your measurements on a globe, each leg of that triangle is 2,160 miles long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Which is the number of years in a celestial age.
		Okay?
		And then I noticed that the crop circles were made 52 days apart.
		The July crop circle was discovered on the 53rd day after the Kennewick crop circle.
		The next thing I noticed was that directly beneath those crop circles, we were having earthquakes.
		The North Ridge epicenter was directly beneath Kennewick within one degree of that longitude line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Remember the big Bolivian earthquake that cut through the crust?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That was directly below Hercomer.
		Okay, so at that point I was really getting interested.
		Okay, let's see.
		July 21, 1993, at that time we were having huge flooding in the Midwest.
		Do you remember that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very well.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It was also exactly one year from the date that Shoemaker-Levy collided with Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was one year from the date, the flooding?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		The flooding and the crop circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and the crop circle, okay.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Because on July 21, 1994, we were watching comets collide with Jupiter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I recall.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I did some numbers and I noticed that the day that those comets began to collide with Jupiter was 52 days after a lunar eclipse.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So the crop circles were made 52 days apart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All of this is numerology, isn't it, really?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		What we're talking about is a synergetic factor of whole systems.
		That's what 52 really is.
		But to get you to the point where you see why it is, I have to take you through the sequences.
		And the law of synergy of whole systems is a principle that Buckminster Fuller used.
		And the principle is simply that synergy is a factor in whole systems that behaves differently than any of the single parts.
		So like using a car as an example of a whole system, you have it takes a carburetor, it takes batteries, it takes a lot of different individual parts to run that car.
		But when it's running, the whole system assumes a quality that cannot be predicted by any one of the parts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Synergistic.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That's the synergy factor.
		And my bottom-line theory, which is working, and the evidence that it's a workable theory, is that it's accurately predicting incredible events.
		Is that the reason that Thol, the lord of astronomy and calendrics, who was a planetary scientist, used the number 52 is because it's the number of synergy of this solar system.
		And that there's an underlying cycle of 52 in this solar system.
		And that's the reason you get Shoemaker-Levy colliding with Jupiter.
		That's 52 days after an eclipse.
		The eclipse didn't cause the comets to collide, but what...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But couldn't I play these games?
		In other words, at 52, I could look back for something that occurred and say, well, all right, this occurred 52 days ago, so that means this.
		In other words, how do you prove...
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		You predict.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You predict, and your predictions...
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And I did predict.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, what have you predicted?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you predicted that has come true?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, the first thing I predicted, and I didn't quite know why it worked, worked at this point back in 94 when I first got a set of maps put together I predicted that the volcano in Mexico City was going to erupt and it did when I said it would within 10 days that one I still didn't have the numbers totally correct I was 10 days off they evacuated 30,000
		from Mexico City on December 21, 1994, and I predicted it in November.
		So there's one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I predicted the storms and the power failures all along the 120 longitude line that happened on December 13 and 15, 1995.
		I predicted that the volcano would go off in the Aleutians on the exact date.
		Well, I had a three-day window.
		It was 20 to 23rd of December.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Drisana, let me ask you because somebody in the audience will.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's easy to sit here and say, I predicted, I predicted, I predicted.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where did you record these predictions prior to their occurrence?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, in both cases, I had articles being published in magazines, and I had articles on editor's desk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you had these predictions in the articles?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I had the articles already to be printed, and I faxed the predictions to the editors.
unidentified		Okay.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And one of them is on the newsstand this month.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And I faxed the predictions.
unidentified		Where?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Magical Blend.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It's on national newsstands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And I faxed the predictions to him two weeks before the events occurred.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, that's good.
		That's important.
		You know, because when you just rattle off predictions, it is very impressive.
		But if you had not told anybody beforehand, you know, not to doubt you, but we have no way.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me put it like this.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, of knowing.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I'm not real pa...
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		appreciate psychics I am a psychic but I don't rely on psychic data exclusively and I would prefer to find a method that anyone can use that it's a matter of understanding the system and what the numbers of that system are because then it's in anybody's hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I want to take you a little bit off track for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I got a report two days ago, Chrisana, of an incredible UFO down in Mexico City that thousands of people saw.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a couple people called up and went, boo-hoo-hoo, I don't believe that.
		And then I got a videotape.
		I've got it on videotape, Chrisana.
		I've got this UFO on videotape moving.
		A craft, a visible craft moving.
		So I saw it myself.
		It got to me in Spanish, but it doesn't matter.
		It was taken by a Spanish TV station.
		That's item one.
		Okay.
		Hundreds of thousands of people are saying, well, let me finish.
		Hundreds of thousands of people are seeing UFOs in Mexico City.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen them.
		Now, I just got a facts.
		Five minutes ago, Art, did you happen to catch the BBC report this evening about the UFO incident in England near the end of last year?
		British Airways flight sighted a UFO, came so close, one of the pilots actually ducked.
		They described the UFO as looking like a Christmas tree, and an artist's rendering of the thing was shown as they saw it.
		It was said to have happened over Manchester, England, near the end of 1995, not reported until it had been thoroughly checked out.
		The object was not picked up by any radar operation anywhere in Britain.
		The crew just cannot believe it was not apparent on radar as it was quite large compared to their plane.
		Thought you might be interested in this.
		The report was repeated by ABC News, KTLA, and Los Angeles on their 10 o'clock news tonight.
		Right?
		So these reports of UFOs, what's going on down in Mexico.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know that started in 91.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Are you aware of that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you referring to Mexico now?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Mexico activity started on the eclipse of July 11, 1991.
		That there had been a Mayan prophecy that was made in 577 A.D. that on that eclipse that the galactic Maya, that the galactic ancestors would return from the sky and that it would begin the era of the sixth sun of the Maya, that it would be attended with enormous earthquakes and that it would be the beginning of cosmic consciousness for the people of Earth.
		And that on that date, July 11, 1991, during the eclipse, the eclipse on that date was focused over Mexico City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do recall that, and that's when it began.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And it was the most highly documented UFO activity ever in history because you had hundreds of thousands of people in the largest metropolitan area in the world with their video cameras to record the eclipse.
		And a UFO came and hovered.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've seen it.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And they got hundreds of videos of it, and they got a shot of a hyper leap on that day.
unidentified		saw that as well and then bob uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and then I have video of all of this.
		You know, Chrisana is not just blowing hot wind here.
		These things are recorded on photographs, still photographs, moving video.
		I've got copies.
		I'm telling you, it's true.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And what's so amazing is that they showed up on the date of the eclipse of July 11, 1991, which was the beginning of the Maya's sixth sun and the age of cosmic awareness.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you regard this then, Chrisana, as validation of the accuracy As you believe it to be of the Mayan calendar, right?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a little more to it.
		Yes, I do.
		And by the way, the Mayan calendar, in terms of its accuracy, predicted eclipses over thousands of years within 33 seconds of accuracy.
		That is an accurate calendar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's another good mark of accuracy, yes.
		All right.
		Now, I guess in the interest of time, Chrisana, I want to know what lies ahead for us.
		I think you've pretty well established the Mayan calendar seems to be on the mark.
		Instead of talking about what it has done in the past, I would like to know what the Mayan calendar tells us about the future.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
		Because that is what got Jose Argue so interested in it.
		Because after 5,000 years of being the most accurate calendar on the planet, it suddenly comes to a screeching end in 2012.
		On the winter solstice, December 23rd, 2012, it just ends.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It ends.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It just stops.
		And Argue said, well, why?
		Why is it stopping?
		And he was of Mexican descent.
		His father was Mexican.
		He was born in Mexico, and then they moved to the U.S. He became a whole systems anthropologist and a professor of art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Carrassana, you said it yourself.
		Zachariah Sitchin has written a book called When Time Began.
		Is that when time ends?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		No, it is when we end a cycle of time.
		Because, see, the whole thing is that the Mayan calendar is a cyclic calendar.
		It correlates huge astronomical cycles.
		And when the calendar started in 3113, all the, and you get like seven major numbers.
		It's really a very complex calendar, but they all read zero.
		00000.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The beginning.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		At the beginning.
		Now, through 5,125 years, which was the entire duration of the calendar, these different numbers have been constantly in change through all these years.
		Well, in 2012, they zero out again, and all the numbers read 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the calendar then begins again?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes, precisely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		What will the Harbingers be?
		What will occur between now and then?
		What are the major events on the calendar?
		Because these, Cursana, are strange times.
		There's no question about it.
		You know, NBC, it's funny, began their evening newscast tonight by saying about the following words.
		We are running out of words to describe the winter of 96.
		Now, this is followed by people who are running out of words to describe the hurricane season we had last year.
		Right.
		And, you know, everybody talks about the weather, and I'm beginning to wonder whether somebody is doing something about it to change it around a little bit.
		Something's going on.
		There's no question about it.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		There's no question about it.
		And I will tell you, according to my calculations, and I'm going to make the prediction right now.
		If I'm right, I'm right.
		And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
		The next lunar eclipse is going to be on April 3rd, 1996.
		The 52nd day will be May 25th.
		And then that day starts a 13-day window that will go into June.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		April 3rd, 1996 begins a how many day window?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, April 3rd is the eclipse.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It's a lunar eclipse.
unidentified		Right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Then your 52-day, 52nd day is May 25th.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		May 25th, right, that's right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And then you still, the full cycle is a 65-day cycle.
		So you still have another 13 days.
		But those 13 days are the heavy ones because the energy, the cycle has been building for 52 days.
		Then it starts peaking out on the 52nd.
		And so I can tell you to look at that window.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look at it for what?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		You're going to see an increasing amount of magnetic activity, electromagnetic phenomena which affect storms.
		You're going to see power failures on longitude lines that have been marked with crop circles.
		And oh, and there's one other thing.
		There's a 9-degree zone.
		This is very, very critical.
		From those pyramids, I have done a map based on four ancient monuments on the planet.
		And my theory was this, that at one time there were planetary scientists of galactic origin residing on this planet.
		They built colonies and they built settlements, just like Zachariah Sitchin says.
		And they were not, you know, we get, because we have so little information, we go real woo-woo, but these guys were not woo-woo.
		When you are colonizing planets, you've got your stuff together and you are a scientist and you know what you're doing and you're very precise and there's nothing sloppy about you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you suggesting we were colonized, in effect, by these people?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And that's what the whole premise of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you're in trouble.
		People are going to say, what do you mean we were colonized by these people?
		The Bible says God created Earth in a few days.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, then they just got here on the eighth day, you know.
		I'm not going to argue with anyone who believes this about God.
		I do believe in God and I believe in creation, but I also believe that, and the Pope agrees with me, by the way, that there are many souls and many entities from many realms, that we're not the only one.
		And in one of the recent, in the last decade, the Pope has asked for people to pray for others in all the mansions of creation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So these guys were out cruising the galaxy, and they stopped by after God finished the creation.
		And I have no problem with that.
		Okay.
		It's a long creation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that does mesh the religious faith with your view of the way events occurred.
		Right.
		So we're in for some big storms, earthquakes, magnetic activity, that sort of thing, right?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And I'm going to quote the Bible, and I'm going to show you exactly where the Bible tells you the same thing if you want me to.
		If you don't want me to talk about the Bible, I won't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't mind anybody talking about the Bible.
		As a general rule, I don't allow Bible quoting.
		So paraphrase it.
		What does the Bible say?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		In the first day, in the first verse, Genesis, the light was separated from the dark.
		Okay?
		So the Bible starts with light.
		And in the last book, which is Revelations, in the 21st chapter, the light is discussed again by John.
		And what he mentions here, it's really interesting because the numbers mesh with the Mayan calendar.
		He gives some numbers in there.
		I'm looking for it.
		I did a little article on this.
		Basically, in the 21st chapter of Revelation, John says that he saw that the old earth and the old heaven had passed away and that there was a new heaven and a new earth in its place.
		And he says that the new Jerusalem descended from heaven, and that he measured the walls thereof, and they were 144 cubits according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
		And the city has no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it, for the glory of God did lighten it, and the lamb is the light thereof.
		And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hold it right there, Kusana.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		We'll take a break, and we will come back, and we will pin her down about what's coming up on the Mayan calendar, which does sound kind of accurate.
unidentified		Stay right there.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Once again, I am here, and I've got a guest.
		Her name is Kursana Duran, and she's talking about the Mayan calendar.
		And a lot of what we covered in the first hour was kind of technical, trying to establish an understanding of why the Mayan calendar, where it came from, which is about 3,100 years before Christ, and its accuracy.
		We did that in the first hour.
		Now we're going to explore what the Mayan calendar says is coming up.
		That's next, so stay right where you are.
		It's really necessary to establish what it is, why it is, and its accuracy.
		So we did that.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little bit later in the program this morning, I'm going to do something I've never done.
		Bring my mom on the air and you can ask her questions.
		You better not ask embarrassing questions.
		Hear me?
		All right, back now to Chrisana Duran.
		And Chrisana, up in Seattle, right?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Chrisana, what I am now interested in, I think you have adequately established the accuracy of the Mayan calendar.
		I want to ask you this.
		I just got a facts.
		Art interesting, the calendar found in the pyramids on the walls ends May 5th, 2001.
		Ask Chrisana if she is aware of that, and is that a cycle?
		Randy.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		Yes, it is.
		It is part of the cycle.
		And I'll tell you, and I don't want to get into numbers.
		Thank you.
		Because when you start talking to calendar, it's so mathematically based, and you can start breaking your...
		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy with what you've established, so don't try to do it anymore.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but just let me, I'm going to quickly just zoom through a number here.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Half of 52 is 26, and half of 26 is 13.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so the year 2000 starts the last 13-year cycle of the calendar.
		And we have a major lineup occurring in May of 2000 where Jose Arguez believes and Edgar Casey concurs that we're having a huge set of astronomical events that will very likely cause a pole shift.
		Now when we talk pole shift, we're not talking about the planet falling over or going out of orbit.
		We're talking about a magnetic shift.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand that, but I have talked with several guests who suggest a pole shift does not occur slowly.
		It occurs almost instantly, actually.
		And when it occurs, you could expect winds in the order of 800 miles an hour.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
		We don't really know that, though.
		See, we don't really know what to expect.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, some of this is geologic data, very old geologic data, and they can look at strata and look at this kind of thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If the poles were to shift, it would have a dramatic effect.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It could.
		It could.
		During recorded history, though, recorded history, during periods of civilization, we do not have a pole shift that we can use to compare with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's certainly true.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not jumping to any conclusions about that.
		And I know that there's a lot of people who really kind of, you know, think it's going to be severe, and it will be severe.
		But I also want to point something else out, that the human race has been evolving for many millions of years.
		And the fact that we're still standing here on this planet means somehow we survived.
		And we've survived many, many, many catastrophic periods on this planet because the nature of a planet is to go through cycles of change.
		That's her form of evolution.
unidentified		Sure.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And we have survived with her.
		So somehow I have a tremendous faith that humanity is going to survive this change.
		There will be, we need to understand the nature of the change so we can cope with it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, like so many people of your genre, Chrisana, they say, yes, we will survive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gordon Michael Scallion, others who do predictions say, yes, humanity will survive, but there will be millions who will expire in the process.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And there were millions who expired in the Black Plague in Europe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And when the Black Plague was over, Europe blossomed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, you know, Kirstana, and here's another thing.
		I'm not in your league.
		I'm not in the league of Gordon Michael Scallion.
		I'm a talk show host.
		I monitor events.
		I look at the news every day religiously.
		I'm in touch with everything electronically.
		And for some time now, I've been talking about what I call, I'm sure you've heard it, the quickening, which is, to me, nothing more than an honest, objective, I believe, observation of things that are beginning to change at an increasingly rapid pace, a very rapid pace.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Socially, economically, politically, the weather.
		I don't care.
		You pick the area.
		Things are changing.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I feel it.
		You're right.
		They are.
		They are.
		And there are reasons for it.
		And it has to do with the basic environment of the planet.
		You know, humans are electrical, a human body is an electrical system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And the brain has magnetic microparticles in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's correct.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So anything that affects the electrical potential on this planet affects human bodies and the way humans think because they are electronic systems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I believe that could be so, yes.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And the evidence very clearly says, because you know that whenever you have a magnetic field, you always have a corresponding electrical field or electrical current.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So when you're getting dramatic magnetic shift, you are getting a corresponding shift in electrical potential somewhere in the system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll buy that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Pardon me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said I'll buy that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And it's subtle.
		And we know that somehow this planet is being electrically charged every day because the planet herself does have an electrical charge.
		She has a negative electrical charge and the atmosphere has a positive electrical charge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And it's the interplay between the two that create this whole system of planetary life.
		Or I won't say create it, but power it.
		And the human body is a part of that.
		So when you're getting a dramatic shift in planetary environment of electrical and magnetic factors, you're going to get a corresponding shift in human behavior.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we sure are getting that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we're also getting changes in our environment.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, all of this does, to me, mesh together.
		Something is changing.
		And the question is, since you're an expert in mine calendar, what do we have to look forward to between now and the ending of this cycle?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was, what we have to look forward to, from the best that I can tell, from the Revelations where it spoke about the sun and the moon in the 21st chapter of Revelations.
		And the last cycle of the Mayan calendar is symbolized by the sun.
		So what we're getting is a shift in solar activity.
		And you know that solar flares affect magnetics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy, do I ever.
		I monitor solar flares.
		I monitor solar storms.
		I monitor the A and K index.
		That part of it I pay attention to.
		And I'm telling you, right now, it's really weird out there.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It's really weird.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And because, you see, in all the prophecies, in all of these systems, the sun is indicated at the end as being the critical change factor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it would do it, all right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And that the sun is going through a phase shift.
		Uh-huh.
		And so it's causing a corresponding shift in electrical potential on this planet, which is causing the magnetics to go haywire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which is causing people to go haywire.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is a story.
		As a matter of fact, I'm sorry to say, it's right up there near you in eastern Washington, Moses Lake.
		I've got an affiliate in Moses Lake, right there in Moses Lake.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		That's where I live.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I'm visiting Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 150 miles east of Seattle.
		A student walked into a classroom today, just killed three people, teacher, two other students, wounded yet another student.
		That student is in custody.
		No motive known yet.
		We don't know much about it.
		But it's just one more story, one more of what I call the head shakers.
		People going nuts, kids going nuts, and taking life without reason, without care.
		Life has cheapened.
		Everything has changed.
		And this is just one more indication of that, Krasana.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you totally.
		As a matter of fact, I'm going to be very frank with you at this point that I am a UFO experiencer.
		And in 1991, I was told that this would be the characteristic of what would be occurring in this period, that people who are not prepared to deal, that as these physical changes occur in our environment, it causes an actual shift in our thought patterns.
		It could probably be measured, you see, because we really are an electrical system.
		You can measure electrical systems.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you know, having said all you've just said, Chrisana, there's a fellow, Dr. Nick Begich, up in Alaska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you get a chance to hear the show I did with him?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's about the HAARP project.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know about HARP?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		HAARP is going to literally heat the ionosphere.
		It's going to throw so much RF energy focused in a narrow point of the ionosphere that it's going to heat and nearly blow a hole through the ionosphere.
		They don't know what it's going to do.
		But there are a lot of people, including Dr. Begich, who feel that they're going to actually be able to bounce this signal off the ionosphere back to Earth, that they could, for example, he speculated, they could focus it on an enemy force on the battlefield and cause that entire force to be disoriented mentally.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is kind of a specific scientific experiment that sounds exactly like the natural process that you're talking about that's going on with the sun and with magnetic storms and all the rest of it that is generally affecting all of us.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		There are things you can do.
		You see, once you understand what the process is, I live in Salt Lake, which is a natural lake.
		It's a salt lake in Washington State.
		And the whole environment is saturated with sodium sulfate, which is different than sodium chloride.
		And Art, I'm telling you that I can tell an enormous difference when I'm in that area.
		And it's the salt.
		I'm positive it's the salt.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, salt certainly is a conductor.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		But okay, there's also other mineral factors.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In fact, for those who doubt it, you can perform a basic experiment in a glass of water.
		You can take one side of a 110-volt line, the other side of a 110-volt line, put it in a glass of water.
		It's dangerous.
		Don't do this.
		And the light will not come on.
		You can take a salt shaker and begin to put salt into the water, and it will cause conductivity, and that light will slowly begin to get brighter and brighter and brighter.
		The more the salt you put in, the more it gets bright.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And you know, somehow it affects magnetics, and I don't know how, but it's an observation that I've made.
		And I also noticed, and I thought it was really funny, that up in New Mexico, they are preparing a place to bury nuclear waste.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		They're burying it in salt.
unidentified		That's correct.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And salt is a very, very important factor.
		And remember, just remember this, that if you're getting a shift in magnetics, how do you make a magnet?
		You run an electrical current through a piece of iron.
		And we are living on an iron-based planet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So in our environment, understanding this, we can arrange grounds, if you want to call them that.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		In other words, when you understand that it's just a base, it's really what you're doing is you're running an electrical system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying that under the circumstances, there are some safer places to be than others.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about the Great Salt Lake in Utah?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that that would be an ideal place to go, except I think that the nuclear testing has really shattered the mantle up there.
		Other than that, I would head for Salt Lake City.
		But I do think you're getting a lot of activity up there that should not be happening.
		And I do think it's because of the damage that's been done with the Earth's mantle through underground testing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Back to UFOs for a second.
		I am astounded by the photographs I'm getting from Mexico City.
		Yeah.
		Why are these UFOs, in your opinion, manifesting themselves in Mexico City?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing is that that's one of their ancient centers.
		The Sun and Moon pyramids are very critical pyramids.
		Very, very critical.
		They're very ancient.
		They point out magnetics.
		They're oriented towards the magnetic north.
		It's true.
		And they show the relationship of sun and moon.
		And see, we keep getting the sun and moon coming up in these different traditions.
		So what it's telling us is sun and moon function.
		But there's another reason for it, which is I've done a couple of maps.
		And I've done maps.
		If you know, like, I'm trying to think, if you know where your stress points are, and you know the geometry of how stress is released, because the whole point, I mean, you know, that's the whole process of change is building up stress and then finding points of release for it.
		Then if you know how that stress is going to be released, you can plot your earthquake zones.
		Now, one of the key stress points in the Earth grid right now is marked by those two pyramids.
		And the evidence, I've done a tremendous amount of research on this, is that by extending angles at 52 degrees across the globe from those two pyramids, I explained, well, I won't use the word explained.
		Let's put it like this.
		85% of the earthquakes in the North America during a three-month, a random three-month period that I just went to the USGS and got the data was in those zones.
		In exact, precise 9-degree zones extended from those two pyramids.
		So those two pyramids are a stress point in the Earth grid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is there going to be a big West Coast earthquake?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How soon?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not really sure.
		I'm not really sure because there are a lot of factors.
		There are a lot of factors that play into when an earthquake's happened.
		But I will tell you that I'm looking at, I will tell you that it will be during an important astronomical alignment because of the stress and pull of living in a whole solar system with other planets.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When are we expecting such an alignment?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I say within nine months.
		Within nine months.
		And it will be, and it will be relative to either it will be relative to June or December date.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold it there, Chrisana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back to you and we'll get to the phones in a moment.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
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		2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
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		You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premiere Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Certainly is.
		People are already appearing on the video phone.
		My guest is Khasana Duran, and she is talking about the Mayan calendar.
		And I'm going to tell you what I think about this.
		Some of it is very hard to understand, but a great deal of what she is saying is right down the same alley, frankly, as what a lot of other people out there are saying, whether it's Gordon Michael Scallion, Zachariah Sitchin, so many people that we have interviewed.
		And while you might not want to consider any single person as having the answer, it really would shock and elude me that you could not consider the collective words, the prophecy, as beginning to say that, hey folks, something is about to happen.
		Back now to Krisana, and we're about to open lines.
		Are you there?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I am.
		Art, before we start, I have put a couple of maps that I did indicating zone on the internet.
		So anyone who can get on the internet can get in there and get those maps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, tell them where to go.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the address is H T T P colon.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Slash, slash, W, W, W, dot, blue, B-L-U-E, W-A-T-E-R-P, period, C-O-M, slash, and then a tilde, and then...
unidentified		Sheesh.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		It's almost over.
		And then B-C-R-I-S-S-E-Y.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's horrible.
		And Krasana, I would suggest that you get hold of the people who run my page and have a link put in.
		want a lot of people to be on there my uh my uh internet address uh is um a www a dot artbell.com that's it www www.artbell okay and that's uh that's that's an address that people can reasonably get to uh and write down and so if there's a link to your page then I think you'll get a lot more people on it because that's an
		awfully long internet address.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can get a link put in.
		But I want to say that my whole goal in this, in what I've done, in my research, is to take it out of the area of specialists and put it into the hands of ordinary people who can use it every day.
		Sure.
		And these maps are on the Internet.
		They're free.
		Anyone can follow these maps for easy.
		The zones are very, very clear to see.
		And then you've got to get your timing factor in.
		And your timing factor is to understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, there are thousands of people accessing my Internet page.
		Maybe you would just want to put the maps up for download or observation on my Internet page.
		Would that be easier for you?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right now?
		I can't do it right now.
		I don't have access to that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not this very moment.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Within days.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, tomorrow we'll do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		So there you go.
		Now, how hard are the times ahead going to be?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Very, very hard.
		And I'll tell you why, because we have, well, we're in an even if we were not having these cyclic changes, we would be in for some very rough times because of the environmental damage that we've caused.
		And I don't want to go into a crusade about the environmental damage, but it's there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't be afraid to say what you feel when you say environmental damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have we done?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, the algae is dying in the sea.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what that means?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm afraid I do, actually, yes.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's an enormous source of oxygen.
		We have these incredible epidemics that are occurring because of the rainforest being cut down.
		In other words, we have upset an already delicate balance.
		And we are going to have high winds.
		I believe it.
		Now, I'm talking psychic now.
		I can see the high winds, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have When you say you can see them, I always want to stop and I want to ask you, what do you mean you can see them?
		You mean in your mind's eye, psychically?
		How do you know?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Psychically.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, psychically I know that they're coming.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Gordon Michael Scallion predicted the worst hurricane season ever.
		In fact, I believe it was an exact tie with the world's worst recorded hurricane season ever.
		He predicted Vesuvius and Aetna would erupt.
		They did.
		He predicts dire circumstances if a certain cycle of earthquakes are fulfilled, and they're well on their way.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, Gordon, yourself, others, predicting all of this in the short term.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, the Mayan calendar, did you say 2012?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		2012 in the winter solstice, which is in December, at the end of December.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		So it's essentially 13 years into the next millennia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I want you to take a couple of calls and questions from the audience, okay?
		All right, so let us do that.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Cursana Duran.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Nancy.
unidentified		I'm calling from a little tiny town called Syad Valley, 15 miles south of the Oregon border.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Nancy.
unidentified		Yes.
		I have a question for Cursana.
		I've been subscribing to a newsletter that she reports in, so I know somewhat about her writings.
		And I wanted to ask about the magnetics.
		I've been meditating about eight years now, and I can feel tremendous shifts in just magnetic awareness, especially in my forehead, a very, very strong pull.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I just wanted to ask you, you know, most people who don't meditate or aren't aware of this may think you're kind of nuts if you think this stuff.
unidentified		I just wondered if this is part of the shift that's occurring that so many people, certain people do have more of a sensitivity to this.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And we were just talking about the magnetic microparticles in the brain.
		And I don't want to go into a lot of esoteric information on the phone, but basically, you know, the body is surrounded by a subtle energy.
		Well, it's affected by magnetics also.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		So that this is picking up on the shift that is occurring at this point.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
		I really do.
		And as I said, I think that our actual frequency, the actual frequency of the physical energy is shifting so that our mental processes are occurring in a different frequency.
		And I don't mean that in an esoteric manner.
		I mean that in an absolute literal sense of the word.
		And people who don't understand the process of thought and how their minds work and how thought is generated can panic.
		They can get very confused.
		And I think confusion is a big part of the phenomena when people don't understand what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think the phenomena itself actually causes a great deal of confusion.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I see it all around me.
		I really do.
		I hear it all around me.
		The headlines are full of it all around all of us, and so I believe it to be true.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Chrisana Duran.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes.
		Yeah, I've got a question here, and it's something that I found in the Bible, and I'm really wondering about it if she knows anything about it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm from Merced, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And it's about Ezekiel.
unidentified		In chapter 1 and chapter 2, he talks about these four living creatures that came from the heavens that resemble man, and they came out of flying wheels.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Right?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		The wheels within wheels?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Very familiar with those passages.
		Are the wheels within the wheels, Chrisana, the UFOs that are being seen now in Mexico and may have been here so long ago?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, frankly, since I wasn't there, I'd have to make an educated guess and say probably.
		Probably, huh?
		Probably.
		Because, you know, the UFOs, you know, Carl Jung, the psychologist, did a paper in the 50s called Flying Saucer's Myth of Things Seen in the Sky.
		And one of the things that just absolutely astounded him was the incredible similarity between the shapes of UFOs and the shapes of the most fundamental images of human experience, cosmic eggs, and that they are also the same shape as galaxies and the structure of space.
		You know, there's just certain structures that are universal because they work.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are some people, Chrisana, who say this is something that can be avoided, that whatever changes lie ahead or disaster lies ahead can be changed with human thought and with human participation in becoming more,
art bell ▲ ● ▼		what's the word spiritual if not religious but spiritual are you of that school of thought or would you say that what lies ahead lies ahead inevitably and we are no more in control of it than we are the bad winter we're having right now well the bad winter is a perfect example because yes we're having a bad winter but the way you deal with that bad winter makes a big difference right you know I do believe I do believe that people and
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		there's evidence in with meditation groups that in you know meditation groups have been taken to to war zones oh yes and and they'll find that there'll be less violence in their sphere of activity you know where the med where the people are meditating so humans really do really do influence their environment but the environment influences them and it's not an either or kind of deal it's like it should be we should be
art bell ▲ ● ▼		cooperating you know we understand that we're not the beginning and end of anything in other words relax and enjoy it because it's going to occur Chris on a stay right where you are we'll be right back to you back now to Chris on a and Chris on are you there I am all right let's take some more calls east of the Rockies you're on the air with Chris on a Duran
unidentified		hello hello hello yes ma'am hello I
art bell ▲ ● ▼		guess not I will go on west of the Rockies you're on the air with Chris on a Duran hello hello turn your radio off please I will okay good for you I want it but I want to talk to art that's yes that is me where are you I'm in Yakima Washington Yakima okay well here we are I want to talk to art I'm art oh you are you don't sound like art on the phone I'm sorry to disappoint you now you're not disappointing me I've listened to
unidentified		to you every night of my life okay art what i want to know is i want to take your trip but i want to fly to moscow with you that's the way i'll do it i'm widowed i've traveled the world and i've i i want to go to st. Petersburg part of the world I have not been but if you fly to Moscow I'll take your trip and I'll fly to Moscow with you and I'm I'm not a threat I'm 68 years old and I'm not a threat all right well listen we've got a guest on right now dear
unidentified		I know you do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a question for her?
unidentified		I don't, because I've been trying to get to you for so gosh darn long.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, look, you come to Moscow with me.
		We'll do it.
		I'm up for it, and I'm game.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Kursana Duran.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Southeastern Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How cold is it, sir?
unidentified		Oh, it's probably about 20 below.
		20 below?
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
		I saw a demonstration earlier tonight of somebody in about 45 or 50 below, and they threw hot water into the air, and I've been telling people for years you can do it, and it came down as ice crystals.
		It's a serious winter we're having this winter.
		Anyway, do you have a question?
unidentified		Yeah, I do, kind of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, kind of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		It's for your guest, and I'm wondering if she can think back.
		It's quite a few years ago, and see if anything significant was going on in this particular time.
		It would have been late October of 1978 in the Midwest or something like that, you know, in the Michigan area, as far as UFO activities or anything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good question, and I know why you're asking.
unidentified		Well, I'd like to talk to you or her off the air if I could, but I don't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't, so.
unidentified		Okay, well, if you could.
unidentified		And I'd like to hang on a listen if I could and maybe comment.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Krasana?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, honestly, I don't know why he's asking that question, and in my mind, back then, I had no awareness of UFOs.
		I had just no interest and no knowledge.
		So it doesn't ring a bell.
		I know the activity that's been occurring up there in the last year.
		Actually, I guess two years now has just been just phenomenal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It has been, and so tell her, why are you asking?
unidentified		Well, I kind of have a personal experience, and I really don't want to comment too much on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, that's fine, sir.
		We appreciate it.
		Without your comment, though, it's hard to respond.
		First-time caller line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Thank you, Bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And look, that's not good.
		I don't know what that is.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Krasana Duran.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Going once, going twice, going three times, east of the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air with Krasana Duran.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		This is Jeff Markita.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Jeff.
		How's Arkansas?
		Cold.
unidentified		Very cold.
		Yeah, I had a question concerning a prediction by Nostradamus.
		I was wondering, does she foresee anything happening around this time where he predicted, I don't know if this could possibly be a UFO or what have you, but he predicted a destroyer coming out of the sky in November 1999.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, that correlates with the biblical prophecies of Wormwood.
		And it would be very likely to happen if we were like, you know, we have had the comets coming in and a lot of asteroid activity.
		And I don't, the Dream Spell postulates an asteroid, that we're moving into an asteroid belt.
		It includes the asteroid belt or the asteroid, you know, between over by Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know about Hailbop.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is Hailbob, does Hailbob potentially time line-wise fit into anywhere special?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where?
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, remember, I was talking about an internal underlying timing sequence of the whole system of the solar system, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Well, Hellbob and um I have heard rumors since nineteen eighty five of a of this uh of a of of of a planetoid basically coming towards the earth uh that has been watched by the big telescope.
		Um and I think that that is Hellbob.
		It's been they've been aware of it for a long time.
		But what is important is that it came within viewing sight of amateur telescopes near Jupiter in the month of July.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it is now, I believe, behind the sun, getting ready to re-emerge, and so we will see it again.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Now I want to point out that the year before that in July, we had a real important event with Jupiter, which was Shoemaker-Levy.
		So what is occurring is that in July 26, 1992, Jose and Lloydin Arguez built a time shift into the dream spell.
		They took the old Mayan paradigm and they said, okay, the time is shifting, and we're going to calibrate this time shift, and we're going to commence the new year on July 26, 1992.
		Every year.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Trisana, we are out of time.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, Trisana, I want to thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You have underscored what so many others have said on this program.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		It was a pleasure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and good night up in the Seattle area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll be back with open lines and some special stuff next.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February
		2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mom Bell's here in a moment.
		Just, as I said, if I sound a little distracted this morning, it's because I'm a little distracted this morning.
		We are doing a million things getting a video phone set up, and here's a fax on it.
		And I thought you'd all like to hear it, so you know.
		It says, Art, your Vidian setup is really neat.
		I got through after many tries.
		The phone line is usually busy, or the phone doesn't pick up when a normal dial tone is reached.
		The Vidian software log said I tried 15 times before I got in, but enough about the problems.
		It was well worth the wait.
		I really got a kick out of watching you do the program dressed in a t-shirt with a backdrop of your home studio.
		It adds a new and intriguing dimension to your show.
		Getting a personal hello during the commercial break was a nice touch, too.
		This is cutting-edge technology, but you don't have to be a technoid to get it working.
		The software automatically detects all of the parameters used by your computer and modem, works even without fine-tuning.
		Congratulations on successfully pulling us a little further into the 21st century.
		Do you plan to add more phone lines or set up access via the internet?
		I'll be dialing in frequently to see your show, but maybe I'll allow others to get in first.
		Next time, I'll have a microphone plugged in to say hello back.
		Well, you can't do that with this software.
		It's one way.
		It's for demo.
		That's from Neil in Houston, Texas, who I guess was watching me a little earlier.
		There's going to be a lot of people out there.
		It's a lot of fun.
		All right.
		Let me talk to you about, by the way, I've got the camera focused on my mom, so that's who you're going to be seeing for this hour.
		And I have turned, I have no idea who's on there.
		I've turned my video screen off because it is simply too distracting.
		However, here is Ma Bell, Yo Ma.
		Say hello.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, everybody.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm petrified, but I guess I'll get over that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell them where you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where you're from.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm from eastern Long Island, out on the tip of Long Island near Montauk Point.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And coming to Nevada is so different here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I do want to thank everybody for the avalanche of faxes which have been pouring in.
		And I wish I could thank you all personally, but it's wonderful to know how much you love art.
		And it's hard for me to call him, Art.
		And if I once in a while call him Trey, you'll understand that's his name.
		Okay, it's more natural for me to call you Trey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why was I named Trey, by the way?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're the third Arthur William Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And it's just a way of saying that, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In French, it's Peter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Derivation French, no?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it has to do with cards, playing cards.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Ace, deuce, trash.
unidentified		Ah.
unidentified		See, I don't even know that about myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, what I would like you to do, by the way, it's good not to be in Long Island right now.
		I've seen the weather.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I am absolutely delighted to be away from Long Island at this point.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I doubt if I could even get out my driveway.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would like to subject you to an hour of questions from the audience.
		So any of you out there who would like to ask my mom a question about me, now have that opportunity.
		As you can see, when we do shows, we do about different shows every night.
		It's absolutely incredible.
		Let's give it a try.
		Let's see what we get.
		Who knows?
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		What's your son's favorite meal that you cook?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That's easy.
		He loves very plain food, things like hamburgers and I just had a hamburger tonight.
		Pardon?
unidentified		I just had a hamburger tonight.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		We had spaghetti.
unidentified		Spaghetti.
		He said he got sick that one day from the spaghetti.
		No, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
		Thank you very much.
		No, I didn't get sick from spaghetti.
		I got sick from a sandwich that came from an unnamed restaurant.
		I won't name the restaurant.
		It was barbecued beef.
		And I got sick after I ate some spaghetti, but the spaghetti was down for about five minutes before I got sick.
		It came from hours earlier, and so there you are.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Oh, hello, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		You sound like such a sweetheart.
unidentified		I just want to say hi, and I really love your son's show, and I think it must have been really amazing growing up with him, or have him growing up with you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly was.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It was quite an experience.
unidentified		What do you think of his UFO encounters?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the whole thing about UFOs is fascinating, and I don't know much about it except what I hear him talking about, but I believe in them.
unidentified		I believe in them, too.
		And I just want to say hello to Phil and Paul also.
		And have a wonderful night, and I love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Take care, my friend.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		This is Tim from Denver, KO Country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Tim.
unidentified		Good morning, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		I just wanted to say that I think your son is delightful, and I'm sure he gets it from somewhere.
unidentified		So even though I don't know you, I know where he gets all of his politeness and his intelligence and his great rapport with the audience.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's very sweet of you.
unidentified		My question.
unidentified		First of all, do you get to listen to your son in New York?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Every single night.
		I have a chihuahua.
		And I was recently widowed, so the chihuahua is now my companion.
		And we listen to him all night, share a snack in the middle of the night.
		But if I can't listen to him, then I turn on my real talk, which tapes the rest of the show.
unidentified		Oh, I see.
		Terrific.
		Well, that's great.
		I'm glad to hear that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get the plug in for my sponsor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's great, too.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Hi, Sue and Bob Crane.
		Chay's friends.
unidentified		What I was going to say is after this hour here that you spend with us, if you enjoy it, I was wondering if you were going to maybe fall into David Letterman's mom's footsteps and do some remote reports from around the country as she's covered the World Series for Dave on his show and things.
unidentified		I just thought that might be something you would.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, Letterman has made kind of a star out of his mom, hasn't he?
unidentified		He sure has.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I'm in that category.
unidentified		Well, anyway, it's great to hear you.
		I'm glad that you get to listen to your son.
		I wish you a long life and happiness.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you care to tell them how old you are?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No?
		Okay.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller align.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Good morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Idaho.
		This is Peter.
		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Peter, speak up good and loud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a little hard to hear.
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
		I got a question for you, Mrs. Bell.
		How are you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine, thanks.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the question?
unidentified		Does Zard have any brothers and sisters?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good question.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he has two sisters, one in Oakland, California, and one in West Hartford, Connecticut.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And he was a terrible tease with them when they were growing up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were pains in the neck when they were growing up.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have a good relationship now that they're all adults.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, right.
		But I was, see, I was the oldest.
		And I think it's the hardest for the oldest.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Because it's like I had to break you in for everything, and then they slid right in behind me.
		All right.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
		Goodbye.
		First time caller line.
		You're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Oh, good morning, Art.
		Good morning, Mrs. Bell.
		How are you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		I'm in Chandler, Arizona.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Chandler, all right.
unidentified		I'm looking at her picture in your book right now.
unidentified		She's a very attractive woman.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I wanted to say that, and I'm sure you're still just as attractive.
		Well, I was wondering, was Art interested in the type of thing that he's interested now?
		You know, what his show is all about when he was a younger child?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, radio?
unidentified		Oh, just the topics you talk about, just in general.
		Oh, okay.
		Everything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		It's a good question.
		Was I?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's always been interested in radio and a ham radio operator, as you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I tore apart a bunch of your appliances, didn't I?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		What did you say?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I tore apart a bunch of your appliances, electrical appliances, when I was younger.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, when he was about three years old, maybe even younger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It really began early, huh?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He cut the cord off my, the plug, off My toaster.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I needed it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Because he needed it for one of his electrical.
		He had taken a cardboard box and plugged it into that.
		Of course, he was just a baby, but that was sort of a signal of things to come, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Probably lucky I lived through that, huh?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, although it wasn't plugged in at the time, fortunately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's something you don't know.
		Maybe you do know it.
		I don't know if I put it in the book or not.
		I think I didn't, and I was afraid to.
		When I was very young and I was experimenting with electricity, I got Tina to help me.
		Tina's my older sister.
		And we wired Barbara into an electric chair.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That's in the book, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that in the book?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think so, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's well that you didn't find out about that until I wrote the book, I think.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we were going to plug her into the wall.
		It was pretty awful.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, I'm calling from Muskegon, Michigan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Muskegon, all right.
unidentified		Yeah, my name is Dee.
unidentified		It is very cold here, and I just wanted to say hi to Ma Bell, and I wanted to ask her if she was planning on going on the trip with you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, I'm not.
		Is it B, did you say?
unidentified		D, I think.
unidentified		D. Dee.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hi, Dee.
		No, I'm not planning on going on the trip, but I think they're going to have a wonderful time.
		And I do think Trey is planning to take his son with him, which is going to be a first and a wonderful experience for a young man.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, she went on the cruise that I'm about to go on sometime ago, didn't you?
		Roughly that cruise.
		You've been over in that area.
unidentified		Yes, yes.
unidentified		And you would recommend that for a trip to bring children on?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think I'll let...
unidentified		Okay, thank you very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		You know, he's 14 now, and I think he's ready for that kind of an experience.
		It's very broadening to travel.
		Very broadening to travel.
		And he'll come back a changed young man.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell, Top OV Morning.
		Where are you, please?
unidentified		I am in Sub Zillow, St. Cloud, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		St. Cloud, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, how cold is it?
unidentified		It's, well, last night it was 35 below, and tonight it's moving towards that, too.
unidentified		We've got record cold weather all through Minnesota tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They showed a picture of a guy throwing hot water into the air, which came down as ice crystals.
unidentified		That's about right.
unidentified		And there was another man who opened or had a can of pop that was out for just a few minutes, and when he opened it up, it was frozen solid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
		Well, anyway, you're on the air with my mom.
		Do you have a question for my mom?
		It's a one-time opportunity here.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Hi, mom.
		Hi.
		I just love hearing you, and it's so nice to have you visiting with us.
		And I have been thinking about you and have been concerned.
		Have you, I'm sure you're aware of the predictions that Gordon Michael Scallion has made for Long Island?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I have heard that it's a possibility that Long Island might not be there sometime, but I don't like to dwell on the thought.
unidentified		Okay, are you planning to stay there?
unidentified		Or are you planning to maybe move back and be closer to trade?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, that would be wonderful, but my home is on Long Island, and my roots are sort of there.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think almost anywhere you live in this country, there are scary things.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Things to worry about.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, things to worry about.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And as we speak, by the way, Long Island's getting clobbered.
		So, in fact, the whole Northeast is.
		I don't know.
		I think Brokal was right tonight.
		They're running out of words to describe this winter.
		Now, you've been through a lot of winters, right?
		I mean, you lived in the Northeast all your life.
		I abandoned the Northeast, as you know, as soon as I could.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know you love warm weather, and I don't quite know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do, yes.
		And so is this winter substantially worse than others you've seen?
		Do you think the weather's changing?
		Put you on the spot here.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think what you talk about, the quickening is here.
		I mean, I think the weather is weird all over the country.
		It's the floods, the fires, the snows, the blizzards.
		We went through a blizzard somewhere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Earthquakes, all of it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's scary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is scary.
		All right.
		The two of us will be back in just a moment.
		Stay right there.
unidentified		Stay right there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now back for about five minutes to the bottom of the hour to Ma Bell and your questions.
		It's actually my mom.
		She's here in the desert with me, all the way from frigid, snow-locked Long Island, New York.
		All right.
		You're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		Medford, Oregon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		It's Trish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Trish.
unidentified		I was just wondering, Ma Bell, what station do you hear art on in New York?
unidentified		My friend is there, and he can't hear it at all anywhere.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been listening currently to Rochester, which I think is called WHAM in Rochester.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And he couldn't get that either.
unidentified		That's odd.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, she has it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I have that wonderful Sanjian radio that Trey gave me, and that and the select attendant together bring it in very well.
unidentified		Maybe that's what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Plus, we're about to come on in Hamden.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're on WAVZ, and we're coming on WELI shortly, which is very clear and very strong and very close.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Right across the sound from Connecticut.
unidentified		W-E-L-I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, uh-huh.
		And what else?
		Well, we were on WAVZ, but we're moving over to W-E-L-I.
		So that's the answer to your question.
unidentified		Okay, well, thanks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		What's the most trouble Art ever got into?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question, actually.
		What is the most trouble I ever got into?
		I remember selling 22s in school.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, damn.
		I took a bunch of 22s into school.
		You know, I had a 22.
		You remember dad gave me a 22.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I remember the 22 that you shot up all the neighborhood mailboxes with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a BB gun.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I don't know the difference anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, the difference is a whole as opposed to a big dent.
		Yes, I did.
		I did.
		I was always into guns as a youngster.
		I guess I got my first.
		When did I get my first gun, Doc 12?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And you had to campaign for a long time before your father would let you have it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm still into guns, but I've learned a lot.
		All right.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Ma Bell.
		Hi.
		This is Paul Ell from Petamarcus, Texas.
		How do you do?
		Welcome to the Mario WLAI.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big station, yes indeed.
unidentified		Very big.
unidentified		And I wanted to know, how was it, did you ever expect Art being as big as he is?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say as big, do you mean physically or in radio?
unidentified		Well, in radio.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he is physically tall, too, but no, I didn't.
		I didn't realize the great potential he had, and I'm so proud of him.
		I can't tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And for your information, Caller, I didn't expect it either.
unidentified		Well, you turned out to be a great success.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
		We're doing very well, and I have a lot of people to thank for that.
		I guess the one right next to me, more than any other.
		Thank you.
unidentified		You, thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		We're a little short on time here to the bottom of the hour.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Lincoln, Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cold, I bet.
unidentified		21 below.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		It's a record.
unidentified		It's really cold.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really exciting to talk to people all over the country.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to be talking to Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's really great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know I feel the same way.
		Hey, listen, hon, we're coming up on the bottom of the hour.
		Can you hold over?
unidentified		You bet.
unidentified		I'd be glad to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Stay right where you are in cold, frigid Lincoln.
		The whole country's cold.
		Back with Ma Bell in a moment.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast AM from February
		Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		2nd, 1996.
		Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here again I am, along with Ma Bell, who's here from Long Island, New York.
		It's great to have my mom here, and it is your opportunity to ask her a question.
		I was really joking.
		You can ask her anything you want.
		We are continuing to say hello to people on video, and they're continuing to say hello to us, and it is working like a bandit, it would seem.
		So back to it we go.
		Let's see, where shall we go?
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, ma'am.
		How are you?
		Hi.
		I'm coming from Springfield, Illinois, home of a balmy negative 22 degrees.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my goodness.
unidentified		I'm going to put on shorts and a tank top.
		Two questions for you, if I could.
		Yeah.
		Art, as you probably are well aware, obviously has very, very interesting taste in music.
		And I'm wondering if you listen to a lot of music, and if so, what kind do you like?
		And also, I was curious, when Art was a teenager, was he at all popular with the ladies?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, both good questions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Music first.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so far as music is concerned, I managed to wheedle a copy of Cusco away from a CD, which I'm planning to take home with me.
		And I'm taking home a brand new computer, which my son gave me.
		And I can play it on that as soon as I figure out the mechanics of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So there you are.
		So she's enjoying, I guess, the music, some of the bumper music.
		What kind of music do you like otherwise?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I like a lot of different kinds.
		Like musical shows and some classical music.
		Kind of a potpourri.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You like musicals?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, like Broadway music.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		I hate them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when I was a teenager, he asked about the ladies.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He was always very popular with the girls.
		I won't say that he always, when he was younger, he didn't pay any attention to them.
		But about the time he became a Boy Scout, I think it was about the time he, maybe it was a uniform.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was Kathy Jarrett, actually.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Kathy was in Maryland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She's the first real serious heartthrob that I can recall.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And I think one of these days, or one of these nights, rather, she's apt to get.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Call in someday.
		You know, I wonder how it would be to see Kathy after all those years.
		Maybe not good.
		Maybe she should live on in my memory as she was at 12 or so.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That could be.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
		Morning, Mrs. Bell.
		How are you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Morning.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine, thank you.
unidentified		Good morning.
unidentified		I don't know if I have any particular question for you, but what I did have was just a thought that I was thinking about, you know, all this stuff, and you talk about the quickening a lot and everything like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And just like The kid that went off and shot them people and stuff like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Up in Washington.
unidentified		Right.
		Yes.
		I was just thinking about that, and I was talking.
		I'm from Rock Falls, and I call in, I talk about financial situations sometimes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And talking about, you know, finances collapsing and stuff like that.
		And I was talking to a lady about that, and she lived through the Depression, and she said the only difference between now and then would be, is everybody kill one another.
		Back then, they helped one another out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, it's a good point, actually.
		During the Depression, people sacrificed.
		People made it.
		It was a lot harder than it is today for people, and yet people today are walking around shooting each other.
		You have any thoughts on that?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we're living in a very strange time.
		Oh, we are.
		Every newscast, every time you pick up a newspaper, something horrible has happened.
		And I don't know.
		It's the quickening, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are your politics?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you describe me.
		I think I feel the same way as you do right down the line.
		We always have felt pretty much the same way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not a big Clinton fan?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you were able to see her on TV when she said that, there was an expression that went with no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Goodbye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, Art.
		No offense, this is your mother?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this is Charlie the Terrible.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Charlie.
unidentified		Yeah, well, your son's a moron, but here's the thing I don't understand.
		What kind of an egomaniac knuckle-dragger would bring his mother on a radio talk show?
		I mean, but anyway, let me ask you a question here.
		I honestly believe that children who grow up and get conservative views really that their parents have been rather mean to them, and that's their psychological way of taking it out on the rest of society, and that's why they're conservative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, meanness translates.
unidentified		When did he first start showing signs of being conservative?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question, actually, from a moron.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I really think he could answer that better.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I haven't seen as much of him since he's been grown up as I would like to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, this is actually a reunion of what?
unidentified		About 10 or 12 years, something like that.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to meet my grandson tomorrow for the first...
unidentified		So?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There you are.
		When did I begin to show signs of being conservative?
		Well, most of my adult life, really.
		Always been that way.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you the Charlie from the book?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, he's gone.
		Yeah, he is the Charlie from the book, right?
		I'm checking my knuckles now, and there's no blood there, so they can't have been dragging too much.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello, Mama.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		I think you are the bell of the Southwest tonight, aren't you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Well, that's a very nice way to describe me.
		All I know is I'm having a wonderful time.
unidentified		And you are a survivor in the first degree.
		We know that because you raised Art.
		Okay.
		Listen, we love him to pieces, and I think he's just marvelous.
		And between you and God, you did good, honey.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		We love you.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		My mom was a Marine.
		A Marine.
		One of the first Marine drill instructors.
		Now, let's ask a little bit about that, because people are going to be curious about that.
		You really were one of the first, weren't you?
		What in the world possessed you?
		I mean, I remember my time at Lackland Air Force Base, right?
		And I remember my drill instructor, meanest SOB that I ever ran across in my life.
		Were you mean like that?
		You know, to the ladies that you were training?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not really.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think the reason I became a drill instructor was because I had taught dancing when I was younger, and I loved the cadence of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Marching.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		The marching, right.
		And I brought one platoon after another through their boot camp.
		And I really, I look back on those years as very pleasant.
		There was one gal who sent me a fax last night.
		And she took her training at Hunter College in New York, too, where I did.
		And she went to Cherry Point, and I went to New River, North Carolina, Camp Washoon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		My birthplace.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, where Trey was born.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And those years were very interesting, I thought, and very happy years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But still, you had to be, in basic training, there are certain things that are done that kind of test the person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you couldn't have been a pure sweetheart.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm speaking for myself.
unidentified		I don't know what the platoon, the gals in the platoon were.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, perspective, huh?
		Yeah, perspective, that's right.
		In other words, my drill sergeant may remember us all fondly, too, but believe me, many of us remember him as about the meanest man walk the face of the earth.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And he shouldn't turn his back, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yeah, Ma Bell.
		How are you doing?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, fine.
unidentified		Listen, my mom's got the same last name as you.
		And I was just curious, with all the traveling that art does, I'm surprised that you guys haven't connected, you know, haven't seen each other in such a long time.
		Do you have an explanation for that?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he lived a gypsy life for a long time.
		He was going from one radio job to another, climbing the ladder to where he is right now.
		And I always lived on the East Coast in a climate that he detests.
		So our paths just didn't cross.
		I was busy, and he was busy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
		She's right.
		I led a very gypsy-like existence.
		It is the nature of those who are in radio.
		And she's right.
		I detest the Northeast.
		As a matter of fact, since she's been out here, you know, it went up to 60 today and the sun was shining.
		And I said, you know, why don't you sell that place back there and move out here?
		And she's still clinging to Long Island, where the snow's probably piling up to about a hip deep by now.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And where the real estate market is so limp that I couldn't sell my house if I wanted to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She says, all right, well, West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is Mark, the Seattle Astronomer.
		I called you a couple nights ago.
		I sent you a fact, so I hope you get it.
		I've been having a hard time getting information to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mark.
unidentified		But I'd like to say that your mother is a pure delight, and I wanted to know if she had thought about getting her own radio program.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'll let Trey take care of that.
		But you know something?
		This is the most exciting night with this Vidian, is it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Vidian, yes.
		I've turned off the screen because it's simply too distracting.
		Television, maybe not for you because you're doing this anyway.
		But for me, I find it really distracting.
		And I'm not going to be able to have the screen on when I do this.
		I can see that.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'll get used to that after a while.
		You told me that it wouldn't be any problem for me to be on.
		I told you I was very stage-stuck.
		But you'll feel the same way after that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This has remarkable technology.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fascinating.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have to remember not to pick my nose or scratch.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time calling a line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, how you doing there, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I don't think I'd ever get through to you.
unidentified		This is Bob in Tacoma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Bob.
unidentified		Oh, how you doing?
		I got a couple questions for Ma Bell there.
		All right.
		How many times, Ma Bell, did you think that you ever had to whack Art on his old perump when he got out of hand there?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he got too big for me after a while.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, or too, and he was fast on his feet.
unidentified		Yeah, he had his one of his shoes on, right?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There were a few times, sir, to answer your question.
unidentified		Do you think it looks like perhaps the coming of the Lord draweth an automobile?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I didn't.
unidentified		Do you think the coming of the Lord is drawing near with all these things going on?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
		In other words, I can't answer it.
		We all feel that something is happening.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I agree, and I don't know what it is.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It could be what you say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming of the Lord.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming of just a change.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming of something.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, something big and scary, frightening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big footsteps in the background.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, like that big creature.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		What's his name, Sasquatch?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Sasquatch.
		You've heard my Sasquatch, right?
		You can't shake your head on radio.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you make the sound that he makes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't make the sound.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I have Sasquatch on tape.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the real Sasquatch, for heaven's sake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Haven't you ever heard that?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I've heard, I don't know whether I have or not.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, my reception at home is not from Rochester.
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me see now.
unidentified		Listen, oh, no, this is not the one.
unidentified		This is one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's one.
		But that's not really the one I want you to hear.
		I'll do the other one here in a minute.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Miss Ma, where do you think your son's staying up all night?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, since he's been on the air all night, I've been staying up too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a matter of fact, coming out here, you've assumed my schedule.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a strange way of living, but very interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I like the night hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		First time caller align, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Oh, right.
		You know, this is the first time I've ever tried.
		This is Ken from Minneapolis, TSTP 1500.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where it's very, very cold.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Definitely.
		This is the coldest I've ever remember in my 32 years.
		But anyway, the main question I had to ask was, no matter how many women you ever have, who's your number one gal in your life?
		Would it be mom?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That's not a fair question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that is not a fair question.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		His wife, I haven't even spoken about his wife, Mona, and I met her for the first time when I came out here.
		She is his partner.
		She's the power behind the throne.
		She keeps things going smoothly for him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She sure does.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		She's a wonderful cook.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, really.
unidentified		I know it's a question that's pretty far out, but it's one of those things where, you know how it is, though.
		Mother's always important no matter what, right?
		You never forget about your mother, even if you don't talk to her for a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
unidentified		That's the main thing I'd like to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, you sure said it, and you can take that one to the bank.
		all right thank you and we'll be back in just a moment Okay, I'm Art Bell, and I'm with my mom.
		That's the first time I've ever done this, and just as we go back to her, this is the Bigfoot sound mom that I wanted you to hear.
unidentified		So Wouldn't want to meet that in Long Island, would you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't want to meet it anywhere, but I was just wondering how many people who were just drifting off to sleep with me when that thing came.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we know all the tricks here.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Glory, Mrs. Bell and Art.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Hi.
		This is Jeff from Columbia, Missouri.
		Hi, Jeff.
		Yeah, it's a little cold out here, too.
		Good thing we have that global warming, or it might be real cold.
		My question was, was Art raised in one central area, or did he travel the country a bit as a child?
		I wonder where he gets it.
		He's got a real easy open-mindedness and touch with no matter what region of the country calls, and I wonder where he developed that from.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll put it this way.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He was in 12 high schools.
unidentified		So he traveled.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we moved around a lot.
		And I, you know, at the time I thought it was horrible for him, but now I'm not so sure.
		I think he learned.
		I think it broadened me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It brought me, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then as an adult, I kept it up.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right, with your radio conversation.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		So I've been, I was a gypsy.
		I've only now settled down in the last five years or so.
unidentified		It really shows in his style.
unidentified		I tell you, your son's a big star.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		A-A number one.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		How nice of you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of you.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Sorry I haven't been able to call you much lately, Art, but I'll try to get more regular.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I appreciate your call.
		Thank you very much.
		Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yeah, Art.
		This is Jim Clark with Houston.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Houston, yes, Jim.
unidentified		Ma, welcome.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
unidentified		How long are you going to be visiting Art and Mona?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's going to be about a week altogether, I think, unless I can't get back to the East Coast because of this weather.
unidentified		That's true.
		And another question is, you said Art was pretty tall.
		How tall is Art?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think he's about 6'2 ⁇ .
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, not that tall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 6'1, maybe.
unidentified		6'1?
		That's great.
		Well, enjoy your stay, and I think your son has got the best talk show on the air as long as I've been alive, and that's 40 years.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you, sir.
		Thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very kind.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Mobel.
		Hi.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Steve in Portland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Steve.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Steve.
unidentified		Very nice to talk to the Queen Mother of the Kingdom of Nye.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And I want to ask a question about Art's real early life.
		Sure.
		When you were toilet training him, did you teach him to leave the toilet seat down?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is a big issue.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think maybe he learned that later on.
unidentified		Well, it's nice talking to you.
unidentified		All right.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We had a big discussion.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's why I was asking.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't think I heard that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The toilet seat thing.
		I thought, you know, I came up with this invention idea that a toilet seat should actually have to be pulled down when you're going to use it.
		And then when you're done and you get up, it just sort of slowly rises back up into its position.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		They do have one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's more normal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They do?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I have a poem that I wrote.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About toilets?
unidentified		Yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's the only poem I've ever written, so I recite it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it a long poem?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I can always tell when you're back in town because the lid is up when I sit down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You wrote that?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
		Fantastic.
		It is Eve in Phoenix.
		Ma Bell, it's a pleasure to hear your native New York voice.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		As you can tell, I am also a true native New Yorker.
		Oh.
		I came from L.A. I get a little nervous whenever I talk to Art.
		He's so prolific.
		And I tuned into KFYI one night, being bored to death, basically.
		And there he was.
		And, you know, I've been listening ever since.
		But I want to say something.
		I lived in Jericho, Long Island.
		You know where that is?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard of it.
		I'm from Connecticut, actually.
		I moved to the end of Long Island from there.
		So I don't know much about towards the west, you know.
		But I know I've heard Jericho.
unidentified		I want to just make one more statement.
		Listening to you for the past 35 minutes or so, I could obviously see where your son gets his beautiful, bizarre, maybe, sense of humor.
		Mama.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You have a good name, Matthew.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you are responsible, actually, for some of my sense of humor.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is a little bizarre at times and strange and dry.
		Yeah, dry.
		And some people don't get it.
		And a lot of things I say, people take, pretend to take, I notice, very literally, even though I'm utterly kidding.
		They take it literally until they get to know me well enough.
		Well, look, she's going to stay, folks, for another hour.
		Oh, aren't we?
		We're going to stay for another hour.
		It's not that hard.
		Is this hard?
		No, it's not hard.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's very exciting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next hour will be even easier.
		What the heck?
		So, Ma Bell back for one more hour, because I'm making her, when we get back from the news.
		And that's where we're headed right now.
		It is cold out there across most of this great nation.
		More in a moment from the high desert.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February
		2nd, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AN from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A rare additional hour with my mom here on the radio, something I will treasure.
		And more of that coming up in a moment.
		Ma Bell, I call her.
		And you can too, I guess.
		I regard what we're doing now as kind of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
		You know, after, what, 12 or 15 years to have you out here and then to be able to have you on the air is really an honor.
		So back to the phones.
		And if anybody has any questions out there, fire away.
		Now's the time.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art and his mom.
unidentified		Yes.
		I wanted to make a comment about the electromagnetic thing again.
		Basically, I worked for a company, a hardware company, for a while.
		And one night, my wife was picking me up.
		And I was coming out late.
		And true long story, the guards at that company Did not like my wife.
		And one night, I was coming out late.
		She said a guard came out and he was talking on his radio, looking directly at her car.
		And he did this for a couple of seconds.
		She got nervous for a second.
		He turned around, and all of a sudden, a wave of just panic confusion just overcame her.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's another story.
		Mom, that is very interesting.
		People have been calling about that.
		If you were listening to the show earlier, I'm sure you heard the young lady.
		I can recall a couple times in my life that's happened to me.
		All of a sudden, you're totally disoriented.
		Has that ever happened to you?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think it has, yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		But not, you know, rarely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But it has happened.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if there's something...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Art.
unidentified		Yeah, I get to the radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and get good and close to your phone and yell at us because you're...
		That's much better.
		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm just outside of Atwater.
		Atwater.
		California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Yeah, so I want to say hello to your mom.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How are you?
		My mom will be 92 next month.
		I'm going down to Georgia to check her out.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Wonderful.
unidentified		And I just want to say hello.
		What are they, Arch?
		Did you get the Bill $3 bill?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did I get the what?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		The $3 bill.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Clinton bill?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I did indeed, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		They're circulating about three.
		There's probably millions of dollars in Clinton $3 bills out there.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Mona gave me one.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Trade Art's wife gave me one as a souvenir.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And before long, they're probably going to be worth about as much as our regular green dollar bills.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi.
		It's me again, Lincoln, Nebraska.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry you got cut off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what happened.
unidentified		I know.
		You lost me.
		I felt so bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're back on.
unidentified		I'm back on.
unidentified		I want to tell you, Art, how much I like your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And Ma Belle, I want to tell you hello.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		And I want to tell you not to be afraid because what's happening is I firmly believe Jesus Christ is coming back.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I hope you're right.
unidentified		And as long as we believe in him, we don't have anything to worry about.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what I meant when I said I think you're right.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a good thought to cling to.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		And I just appreciate both of you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		He's doing a good job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, take care, and I'm glad you made it back on.
		Well, I hope that he'd be the one, too, because the alternative is not good.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn your radio off, please.
unidentified		Yes, sir, I did.
		First time call.
		Wow, you're really fast tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm trying.
unidentified		Hi to Ma Bell there.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
		I just got through.
		I run Chicago every night.
		It's 23 below here.
		It is cold, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's about 45 degrees here now.
unidentified		Well, they said it's 65 below with the wind chill here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brother.
unidentified		So it's cold all over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, are you going to go out and throw some hot water up into the air and see if it freezes?
unidentified		I just walked through the door.
unidentified		I got a pizza corn and listened to your show all the time, Martin, the truck.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		We hope you have your earmuffs on.
unidentified		Oh, not in the truck.
		I don't need them in the truck.
		It's nice and warm there.
		I can say I like the...
		He's off the air because they only run him during the week until 4 o'clock in the morning.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you called him on a very auspicious night with this new invention that they're in for.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, I want to try to download some of his stuff as a computer.
unidentified		I just bought one here a couple months ago, and I've got to get into it and see what Art's got on his bulletin board there, in the web there.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He's been showing me, and it's fascinating.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Art's really got a good show there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, listen, bless your heart, sir.
		You're out there in the truck most times, huh?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, every night.
unidentified		Like I say, I run Chicago at night from 7 to 7 o'clock at night till 3.30 in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say run Chicago, that means you're back and forth between Milwaukee and Chicago.
unidentified		Say, Aaron, I want to ask you one more question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		You know, on these people that you say that are immortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		Oh, no, no, no.
		No, I don't say they're immortal.
unidentified		Let's say they're immortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I wanted to ask them a question as they say.
unidentified		Some of them, because I listen to you all the time, they said they've been here since the beginning of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some of them, yeah.
unidentified		Well, I was wondering if they never seem to remember anything, you know, about the past.
unidentified		Should ask them, what about the dinosaurs and the big meteor that hit the earth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, those are all good questions.
		The one I like came yesterday.
		Somebody sent me a fact and said, next time you get an immortal online, ask them how long they can hold their breath for.
unidentified		So I was wondering if they should remember dinosaurs.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Yeah, it's a good point.
		Dinosaurs.
		And even an immortal must have headed for the caves when he saw T-Rex coming.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art and Mom.
unidentified		Hello, Art and Ma Bell.
unidentified		This is Mad Mike from Reading, California.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		It got down to almost 40 degrees above zero here today.
		Wow.
		And up to about 60 during the day, so everyone who says that they don't like California should come out here and enjoy the nice weather for a while.
		I have a question for you, Ma Bell.
		Do you ever get upset at any of the callers that call in and disagree with art?
		Or like Charlie Liberal?
		Does that ever make you mad when he gets on there?
		Is that calling your son a moron?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Not really, because I think people like those callers.
		They like the seasoning on the program.
		They kind of spiced it up, you know.
		And I think actually art enjoys them too because it gives them somebody to just far with, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, I kind of noticed that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it really is true, actually.
		They are seasoning.
		Sometimes they're like some of the red peppers that I grew out here.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Yep, yep.
		Take care.
		Sometimes they get you.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wild card line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, good morning, Art.
		Bob in Las Vegas.
		Hi, Bob.
		You know, when Ma first came on?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And she was calling you Trey.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that was what I was called all my...
unidentified		Yeah, well, you know, the first thing that went through my mind is, so what does that mean was it's art spelled backwards?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it's T-R-E-Y.
unidentified		Well, yeah, I know, but I just spelled art backwards and get T-R-A because it's Trey.
		You know, that's the first thing that went through my mind.
		Anyway, Ma Bell, we're proud of your son here in the Las Vegas area, having seen him go from just on one station up to 200 and how many is it now, Art?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		About 250.
unidentified		250 stations.
unidentified		And we kind of think of him as a home son sort of thing of Las Vegas.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're proud of him, too, like I am.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		But I think he was in the right place at the right time, and it wouldn't have done him any good to be if he hadn't had those 30 years behind him of hard work.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, definitely.
unidentified		Sure, he's worked for it, and, you know, he deserves all the best.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That's the way I feel about him.
unidentified		I'd like to ask you something about, you say you live out near Montauk on Long Island?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Have you ever got a chance to see their St. Patrick's Day Parade?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't, but I'll tell you, I'm from Connecticut, and I've only lived in Long Island for a few years, so I'm not, you know, I'm not too familiar with a lot of it.
unidentified		Okay, well, I understand I saw a film not too long ago of St. Patrick's Day Parade there, and apparently they really go all out and have all sorts of wild and bizarre floats and so on.
unidentified		So if you're back there by that time, you might want to check it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Bob.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Check it out.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Bob, my friend.
		That is Bob in Las Vegas, and of course, that is the old alma mater town.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Mob Bell.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello.
		This is Sarah, Los Angeles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Sarah.
unidentified		I was in the Marine Corps 53, 54, and 55, and I just wanted to say hello to the Serge.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To the Sergeant.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you say you were in the Marine Corps?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Well, at Paris Island.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		At Paris Island.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Paris Island was the, wasn't that where the Marines went to boot camp?
unidentified		Yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		And also the Air Force was there, the Marine Air Force?
unidentified		No, I don't remember that part.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that was Cherry Point.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		No, that's okay.
unidentified		But I just wanted to say hello and hello.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's nice to say hello from one BAM to another.
unidentified		Yes, and I thought you would be a one and, you know, because I feel that I have to.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember what BAM meant?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		Fraud-axled Marine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's one of the things that it meant.
		All right, well, thank you very much for the call.
		A lot of people out there know what else it meant.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was being polite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did the original derivation of that bother you when you were in the Marines?
unidentified		No.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember when I first heard it, I was sitting with another Marine when we first arrived in New River.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I don't care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It used to mean broad-ass Marine, right?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You said it, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's 3.20 in the morning.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was kind of endearing, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you really?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You weren't insulted?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, these days, to say such a thing like that, you would be in court suing for a million dollars and winning.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Art and Mom.
		Hello there.
unidentified		Nope.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		West to the Rockies.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air with Art and Mom.
unidentified		Hello.
		Hello, Art.
		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		How you doing, Mrs. Bell?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine, thank you.
unidentified		Art, last time I talked to you, I was so blasted nervous I couldn't think straight.
		You know, every time you play that Sasquatch yell, I get the whips and jingles because I heard that in real life when I was about 14.
		And every time you play that thing, I just kind of go, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd be gone in the other direction, sir.
unidentified		Mrs. Bell, when you were headed, oh, I'm getting nervous again.
unidentified		When you were headed out here, tell us of your harrowing taxi ride.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Oh, yeah, exactly right, sir.
		Thank you for the question.
		Yeah, tell them what happened.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, very quickly, I started out for the airport in a taxi cab called South Hold Taxi, which I'd never ridden in before.
		It was like a coffee grinder.
		And I knew we were in trouble as we started out, but we hit a patch of black, what they call black ice, and the cab went around in a complete circle, wound up facing the other way, and in the meantime, we took out somebody's front porch.
		Oh, it was awful.
		I bounced all over the back of the cab.
		Then he said, trust me, I'll get you to the airport after he changed the tire.
		We got to the airport, missed the plane by three minutes.
		So it was a very harrowing experience.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How'd the guy with the missing front steps on his porch react?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He was calmer than I expected.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He came over and I said, would you like to earn some money taking me to the airport?
unidentified		Did you, really?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because I was frantic at that point.
		You know, time was marching on, and he said, I'm sorry.
		He checked with his wife and he said, my wife won't let me go to New York.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		Well, he was thinking about it, huh?
		Even after you took his front porch up.
unidentified		Yeah.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, three policemen had arrived.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm going to have to change my view of New Yorkers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think we just missed that person.
		That's too bad.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		K2 Mess, Reading, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Reading, California.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Mrs. Bell, has Arthur always been weird?
unidentified		Yes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		To answer your question.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		But I think his weirdness is what makes him so endearing, you know.
krsana duran ▲ ● ▼		And interesting, too.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
unidentified		You know what?
unidentified		You sound just like my fifth-grade teacher.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Your fifth-grade teacher?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm very flattered that I sound like a teacher because they usually, you know, they usually have some kind of presence and they usually speak good English.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		So thank you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think.
unidentified		Well, your trip back east will be fine.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
unidentified		Promise.
unidentified		I promise.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a psychic reading for you, Mavel.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		Thank you, my dear.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See you later.
		She's a nice girl.
		Very nice girl over in Reading.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Mavel.
		Hello there.
		Where are you?
unidentified		Proctor, Minnesota.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Proctor, Minnesota.
unidentified		By Duluth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		At the head of the lakes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're both fine.
unidentified		I just wanted to say your mother sounds so much like my mother.
		It's like deja vu listening to your radio show.
		Maybe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, maybe all mothers sound the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that could be true?
unidentified		Well, there's love in their voice.
		You can just hear it.
		She just seems to love you to pieces.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I do.
		And that was a very nice thing to say that I reminded you of your mother.
unidentified		Oh, thank you very much.
		And I'd like to say one more thing.
		It's 35 degrees below zero up here without the wind chill.
		Brrr.
		It sucks.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, are you going to go out?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want somebody to go do the experiment I saw on TV and throw some hot water up into the air and see if it comes down as ice crystals.
unidentified		I just came in from working on my car with the antifreeze in there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's frozen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The antifreeze is frozen?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
unidentified		So I'm out there with the heater trying to keep your car alive.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that could do damage, serious damage to a car.
unidentified		You ever hear of a frost plug?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, they pop out, I guess, right?
unidentified		Yes, and it popped out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it did.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, as Tom Brokaw, thank you for the call, sir.
		As Tom Brokaw said, we are running out of words to describe this winter.
		I'll tell you, the people, even though all the hurricanes didn't hit last summer, there were really almost not words to describe the hurricane season, one after another.
		One day I looked at a picture in the Atlantic from Africa on over, and they were just lined up like pin pins.
		It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
		Our weather is being manipulated or changing or something.
		First time caller line, you're on the air with Art and Mom.
unidentified		Hi, Ballman delivering papers in King County, Washington.
unidentified		Hi, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I won't be able to hold over.
		I have a couple of questions.
		Number one, Art, we had another shooting in eastern Washington recorded at Central College and just a wound in the leg, but somebody discharged another weapon.
		We're not proud of that.
		Ma Bell, two points.
		The book and your reaction to it and his frankness therein, as well as did your military career end with Trey?
		Well, my daughter was asked to leave the Air Force when she became pregnant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's start with the book when you read it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is a very frank book, it's true.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think if it weren't frank, it would be a dull reading.
		And I think the fact that it's so truthful and so well described, his life and so forth, makes it very interesting reading.
		I enjoyed reading it very much.
		I read it in one sitting, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
		And then I forget a second question.
		He had a good one, too.
		Do you remember what he asked?
unidentified		Let's see, the book and...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What was it he asked?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, if we could only get him back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we can't get him back.
		He's gone.
		No, don't touch that.
		Your mic.
		That makes noise when you touch that.
		He had a good second question.
		It's gone now.
		We both lost it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		We're sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		We'll ask somebody who's here.
		Hello there on the wildcard line.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, this is Fritz from Waldo, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, Fritz.
		Fritz, before you get on to what you're going to say, what was his second question?
		Last caller?
unidentified		I didn't hear it.
		I tuned my radio down.
		Ah, yeah.
		You got me there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Adam.
		You tried to trick me, huh?
		Yeah, I tried to trick you.
		Anyway, go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I just wanted to say that Mother's Day came early this year.
		Oh, thank you.
		Thank you.
		Mom is delightful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a doll.
unidentified		I like her little story, but I got one for her.
		You know, I've been thinking about President Clinton.
		I think of him as a shepherd, and Hillary is a Kirk on her staff.
		Too bad?
		Oh, I'm sorry.
		All right, we appreciate it.
		I like people with a sense of humor, and you got it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You really delight my evenings.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you, my friend, and take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I still want to know that, guys.
unidentified		That was an important second question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it something the frankness of the book, and then there was something else, and it's going to plague me.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it had something to do with your birth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did that end your marine career?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it ended my marine career.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I was discharged for the convenience of the government when I knew that I was going to have pregnant.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're pregnant, in other words.
		And it was convenient for the government to say goodbye.
		All right, us too, and we'll be right back.
unidentified		You'll listen to our bells somewhere in time.
		Tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
		Midnight after waiting, send your camel to bed.
		Shadows painting our faces.
		Chasing the romance in our head.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from February 2nd, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, good morning, everybody.
		Good to be here.
		I'm Art Bell.
		And my mom is here.
		It's the only time I think it's probably ever going to happen.
		And I just got a call from the network, and they said they had been taping this.
		So anybody out there who wants a copy of this last two hours actually would be able to get it from the network.
		And I've got a word or two to say about the publisher of my book and my book in a minute, too, because we've got a message here from the publisher.
		So we'll get to that here in a second.
		The End I just got a fax I'm going to read to you.
		This is Art and Mom together.
		It says serious facts from Derek in San Diego.
		He says, just heard on Cogo, it is so cold in the Midwest that ears and tails of farm animals are snapping off.
		I've never seen anything like this.
		And I lived in Alaska, and I saw it once, I think, get to about 40-something below zero in Anchorage for a very short time.
		But this is ridiculous.
		Ridiculous.
		Listen, my editor, Jennifer, who worked with me and still does and my mom on my book, I guess, sent my mom a nice little fax, didn't she?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Hi, Jennifer.
		We talked on the phone a couple of times.
		It's just great to get this fax from you.
		And I'm going to tell you now, I'm glad I have the opportunity to tell you that I think you did a wonderful job on Trey's book.
		It really makes fascinating reading.
unidentified		Even to his mother who knows all the facts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm scared of this signing that I'm going to go do.
		Can't shake your head.
		You've got to say something.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think you'll do beautifully.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		One of your people faxed me last night and said, see if you can get Art to go on the Tom Snyder show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		She wanted me to use my influence.
unidentified		Really?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I know you hate TV.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I do.
		I'm even in fear of a public signing, but I'm going to go do it in Portland, Bridget.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you'll be fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll live through it, I'm sure.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art and Mom.
		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		Hi.
		My name is Reggie.
		I'm calling from San Francisco Bay Area, actually, Vallejo, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		I just wanted to say that I think, this is to Ma Bell.
unidentified		I think your son is a wonderful gift to our country.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I'm glad his work is going so well and progress and all that kind of stuff.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You're very generous to say that.
unidentified		Two things.
		This is for art.
		All right.
		Have you ever heard of a book called Reality Revealed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Okay, I don't know who the authors are, but you might enjoy reading it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right, I'll see what I can do.
		Bookstores can look things up both ways.
		Correct.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And boy, I forgot the other thing I was going to say.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what happens?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We forgot a guy's question for a few minutes.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call, sir.
		It's sometimes, unless you write them down, you forget them.
		Wild Guardline, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hi, two questions.
		First, your heritage, what is it going back, great, great, great-grandparents, what country they came from, et cetera?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		And the second is, what is the strangest thing?
		Like, Art had a dream a couple months ago about balancing boxes on his head on a hill in Mexico.
		And what's the strangest, most psychic thing both of you have ever experienced and the strangest dream he might have told you as a child?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't even remember that myself.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, he had a recent dream that was weird.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think he told his listeners about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Scissors dream.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		But one of his listeners faxed us some pictures of a dream catcher, and it turned out that Art's wife had a dream catcher, and it's now over his bed.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		So we're hoping to screen some of those bad, those nightmares.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A dream screener.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a dream screener.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Screener.
		My heritage.
		They want to know about my lineage, so tell them.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, his.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't some of my relatives come over on the Mayflower?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		But one of his ancestors was the first white child born in Stanford, Connecticut, and it kind of went on from there.
		That's on his dad's side.
		And as for me, I'm French-Irish.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what does that make me?
unidentified		I'm French-Irish-English.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Those three things, primarily.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Kind of a mixed bag, I guess.
		All right, let's see.
		Where to go?
		East of the Rockies, probably back where it's cold.
		You're on the air with Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Well, at least it's dry and it ain't raining no more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is New Orleans, Sky.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		New Orleans?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Long time no see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it not too cold in New Orleans?
unidentified		Not for me.
		The way I look at it, as long as it doesn't rain, I don't care how cold.
		I just hate the wet.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		May I ask you a question?
unidentified		Oh, please do.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Why did they call New Orleans the Big Easy?
unidentified		Ma'am, I will be totally honest with you on that.
		And let me begin with first.
		It's an honor to talk to you.
		Back when that movie came out, The Big Easy, no lie, most of the people here, that's the first time they started hearing it referred to as the Big Easy.
		And I've lived here most of my life.
		I have no idea.
		I don't know.
		It's something Hollywood started, or it's either an old saying that some writer drummed up, but I never heard it as a really big popular reference to the town.
		But first, I'd like to say it's a pleasure to talk to you, especially anyone that is a member of the group of people that helped pull this country through during the World War II era.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And art, once again, Charlie Liberal reaches a new low.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was probably, that was pretty miserable.
unidentified		I mean, well, like I'm sure you would say, just consider the source.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly the way I feel.
unidentified		But, I mean, for him to really want to poke at mother-son relations, he ought to look at his hero Clinton and, you know, the past of his mother.
		But aside from that, I just wanted to say, you know, hello to your mom.
		It was a pleasure.
		And just, you know, chime in on that note.
		And much happiness and peace to you.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Skye, and we'll make it down there for Marty Garas someday.
		First-time caller line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Well, good morning, Ms. Bell, and you, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you, sir?
unidentified		Well, if you're having trouble hearing me, I'm on a car phone, and I'm in my Big Rick between St. Louis and Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		No, I hear you just fine.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
		I wanted to let you know, I stumbled onto your radio program probably by accident about a month ago, and because I bought an older car that only had an AM radio in it, and on my way into work, I caught a little bit of your show, and now I'm hooked.
		And I find myself every night.
		I leave St. Louis at about 1.30 in the morning, and I lose your station about three hours out, and then I get real aggravated.
		I can't find another station in Kansas City to pick it up on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you lose KCMO, I take it.
unidentified		Which one is it, sir?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a station in Kansas City, KCMO.
unidentified		KCMO?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
		One other thing I'd like to comment on while I have you on here was your guest this evening.
		And I thought she was absolutely wonderful, just articulate, knowledgeable.
		I couldn't believe that she knew so much about AD, BC, the hemisphere, the atmosphere, the magnetic polar system, and her uncanny ability to predict things.
		And the only thing I think you did was you missed one major question that you should have asked her.
		What was that?
		How long could she hold her breath?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am next time I get into Mortal.
		I'm definitely going to ask him that.
		Easter, the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		How's it going?
		This is Tim calling from Fondillac, Wisconsin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Tim.
unidentified		Burr, Bur, Burr.
unidentified		About 25 below right here.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just got a fact saying that in the Midwest, animals' tails are snapping off.
unidentified		I'd like to meet the person that's running around snapping them off.
		Hey, anyway, Art.
		First of all, Ma Bell, what can you say?
		Art is a fantastic talk show host and a great guy, and you've got to give the source credit for that.
		So we appreciate, you know, well, we appreciate Art.
		Art, I have a question.
		I downloaded, and I'm getting off the subject here, and I'll be quick.
		Downloaded that the vid.exe from your bulletin board.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		You may want to let the company know that you need the file msvideo.dll to run that in your Windows slash system directory.
unidentified		And so maybe they want to redo that or include it in the file.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends on how you bring it in.
		If you bring in just the file itself, I think you'll be alright.
		If you run it instead, bring it in, you know, a file and then new and bring it in that way, I think you'll be okay.
		Because that is in the directory that it refers back to.
		Do you follow me?
unidentified		Okay.
		I do follow you.
		And it didn't come, it was not included in, well, the file I downloaded, the VID.exe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where did you get it from the Bulletin board?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, it is there, sir, because we've had no less than about 40 or 50 people call, so it had to be there.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, maybe I'll give it another shot and do it over again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		It's the way you bring it into Windows.
		Wild Card Line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Oh, hi, Art.
		Hi, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		This is Pete in Portland.
		Hi, Pete.
		I just wanted to thank you for having Art Bell so we can all enjoy him, too.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		That's very nice of you.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, I wanted to ask, what kind of breakfast cereal did he eat when he was a baby?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		We used to call him Pablum Puss.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, geez.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Because we fed him this thing called Pablum, and he got most of it on his face and very little inside him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pablum puss?
		Thanks.
		That one's going to haunt me for years now.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		This is John in Pasadena, California, KBC country.
		Yes, sir.
		First off, Art, just real quick, FYI.
		Bell is a Scottish name.
		It's one of the sets of one of the three bigger clans, either Bruce, MacDonald, or Stewart.
		So it's a Scottish name.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Makes me feel like makes me feel like being in a feud or something.
unidentified		Mrs. Bell, I wanted to let you know, take comfort.
unidentified		My mother and you could have commiserated about their boys.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Art and me and my brother, we were all of us the kind that would go out and play with cherry bombs and gunpowder and electronic stuff.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		You were one of those, too.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		No, me and my brother both.
		Oh, yeah.
		We'd shoot off gunpowder in one particular part of our flower bed.
		And after a while, nothing would grow but one tiny little weed.
		That was all you could get to go in there because of all nitrates.
		Art, you and I are soul brothers.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to tell you something about art and fireworks.
		We used to go to Florida once in a while on a visit, and he knew that there were fireworks for sale in Florida and that it was legal to buy them or something.
		And if he could have run ahead of the car on the way down, he would have done it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		Really is true.
		And then There were states, I think, in the Carolinas.
		You could buy them there.
		You're right.
		I'd have been out running ahead of the car.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		This is Mike from KST Sacramento.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mike.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mike.
unidentified		Hi.
unidentified		It's good to hear your mom's voice.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Howdy, Mrs. Bell.
		Howdy.
		Yeah, howdy.
		I sent you a fact.
		I hope you got it the other day.
		And you must got a lot of them.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one was that?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
unidentified		It had a little smiling face on it, and I talked about how much Art's Wife has been such a...
		Yeah, and that I felt that you were.
		And I'm really, really glad to hear you.
		I have kind of one question.
		Well, maybe two.
		How many things did Art Bell tear apart like electronically and stuff when he was younger?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		He has never been far away from electricity.
		And if you could see the house we're in now, everything is either blinking or it's plugged in.
		I mean, they're not talking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But he asked about when I was a child, or when I was young.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		13, 12, 13.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		What, when you first became interested?
unidentified		Yeah, I was.
		I locked myself away for summers at a time.
		Because I used to do the same thing.
		I was wondering if he did.
		I imagine.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		We saw very little of him because he was in his hamshack all the time.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Or up on the roof of the house putting up an antenna.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I used to scare the hell out of her with that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'd be way up in the peak of a roof putting up antennas.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Everywhere we lived, if you looked up in the trees, you could see a string with a rock fastened to it where he had, you know, trying to throw a rock over a tree to get my antenna up.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		Well, Art, I have one more kind of question for mom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, real quick.
unidentified		I told you the other day, you know, after seeing your book, your picture said a thousand words to me and your book said a million.
unidentified		What did she think about that comment of your picture?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, my mom's been able to see me, you know, kind of right along, even though we haven't seen each other physically.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've been passing photographs back and forth.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		And we've talked on the phone a lot.
		We now, I send him faxes.
		He sent me a fax machine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you send faxes?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I send faxes to him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the way, if you want to send my mom a fax before she leaves, she'll be here through the weekend, probably until Tuesday or God knows.
		Maybe she'll not be able to get home at all.
		But if you want to send a fax, my fax number is area code 702-727-8499.
		702-727-8499.
		She's collecting them all like a squirrel would collect nuts.
		So if you send her a fax, you'll take them home with you, right?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I certainly am taking them home.
		And the first one I got said, welcome, Ma Bell.
		That one I'm going to frame and put up in the den in Long Island.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Nationwide, you are.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
		Hi.
unidentified		Good morning, Art, and good morning, Ma Bell.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		This is your Bigfoot fan from Las Lunas.
		I wanted to say one thing.
		I can relish your experience right now because my mom came to visit me out in New Mexico after, I think it was five years.
		And she got to see her grandson for the first time, and it was just a really, really great time.
		And I hated to see her go back to New Jersey back to that weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was awful.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		New Jersey.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm planning to meet my grandson for the first time in years tomorrow morning.
		Yes, this morning.
		I'm a little confused on time.
		And I'm so glad you had a good experience with your mother.
unidentified		Well, you know, there's something about a son's relationship with his mom that their wives sometimes don't understand.
		And it's pretty sad sometimes because they feel jealous at times.
		I don't know if that's the case with your wife, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, it is not.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she's a doll.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm very fortunate to have such a lovely daughter-in-law.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Oh, thank you, Art.
unidentified		Take care of you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		We're beginning to run very short on time here.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
		Hi.
		And your mom.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		I'm wondering how do you feel about the flat tax?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good question.
		All right.
		There's a political question for you.
		Okay, we'll just leave it at that.
		What do you think about the flat tax?
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you asking me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wish someone would make a report on it and show different kinds of income tax levels and how people would benefit by it.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen anything like that, and I can't figure it out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And who would benefit and who really would get hurt?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I haven't really seen that either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've heard a lot of people say a lot of things, and I don't know what to believe.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm trying to keep an open mind on it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wilson, the Rockies, you're on the air with Ma Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art and Ma Bell.
		Hi.
		You have to find the radio?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, turn it off, actually.
unidentified		Oh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Turn it off, sir.
unidentified		Oh!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're not going to have time to wait.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, that radio's got to go off.
unidentified		Okay, well.
		Hello?
		Hello.
		Hello?
		Yeah, there we got it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		This is Gloria from Spokane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yes, I just wanted to say it was a great pleasure of listening to Ma Bell and welcome her to come back anytime.
		Thank you.
		I'd love to hear the closeness that you two have towards one another.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is good to have that after all this time, and it's been a long time, believe me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, you said where are you?
unidentified		Spokane.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Spokane in Washington.
unidentified		I'm the one that asked you about your tape book.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, it's about to come out.
unidentified		Oh, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's just about to come out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll be out in, oh, I think the middle of the month.
unidentified		Oh, great.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay?
unidentified		I'm getting excited.
ma bell ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, you take care.
unidentified		Yeah, you too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, listen, Ma, the show's over.
		All the lines lit.
		Show's over.
		We're out of time.
		So I'm going to give you the honors This morning, and the honors consist of simply saying, Good night, America.
		That's it, all right.
		So, from the high desert, everybody, that was Ma Bell.
		Now, from Art Bell or Trey, if you wish.

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