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unidentified		Welcome to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring Coast to Coast A.M. from January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I bid you all a great Friday night, Saturday morning, or perhaps Sunday night, Monday morning, as the case may be.
		And welcome to the best in live overnight talk radio, emanating from the high desert and radiating to the west, toward the Hawaiian and the Asian Islands.
		As a matter of fact, we've done that a lot.
		Oh, we had a lot of fun yesterday.
		I'll think about that here in a minute.
		And then east toward the Caribbean, actually to the Caribbean and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
		South, we believe, into Central South America.
		And north to the Pole.
		This is Coast to Coast A.M. I'm Mark Bell.
		Good morning.
		During the last, oh, I don't know, 45 minutes to hour of the show yesterday, I thought I would just have some fun.
		I got to do that every now and then.
		So I opened up an international line.
		And I'm going to do that in about an hour.
		Again, I'm going to open an international line.
		And last night, the last hour of the show, we heard from Japan, Johnston Island, all the way from, I'm trying to recall now.
		It seems like it was Holland or Norway, I guess, Norway.
		And we heard, of course, from Canada and Mexico and a couple of other points in Okinawa in the Pacific.
		So it was just kind of fun.
		DXing, it's called radio AM DXing.
		And I have no idea what conditions are like out there from an ionospheric point of view this morning, but we're going to find out because at about midnight, I'm going to open up the international line and see what happens.
		It should be a lot of fun.
		WOAI, for example, from San Antonio, Texas, reaches, well, I was in Mazatlan, and they were about the strongest thing on the dial in Mazatlan.
		And if you look at that on a map, you'll see how far down she is.
		And so that ought to be a lot of fun.
		And we'll do that in the next hour.
		So while I don't know much, and it does depend on the ionosphere, it tends to be good in the winter because we don't have so many thunderstorms going on.
		Usually.
		Usually.
		And so the ionosphere or signals bouncing from the ionosphere are heard more easily, obviously, since there is not so much static.
		Now, of course, lately the weather has been bizarro and there have been thunderstorms and tornadoes at times in the winter when there should not be.
		And the weather, I'm sorry to say, is still in the top of the news.
		It just keeps coming.
		Those areas that you'll recall got hit with ice and snow, you saw the pictures, are now melting and badly flooding.
		Other areas already pounded are getting it again.
		The northeast is flooding all the way from West Virginia to Pennsylvania to North Carolina.
		It's awful.
		In New York, and I don't know a lot of people are going to like this one, I guess.
		In New York, high winds actually blew down part of the dome of the UN General Assembly building.
		That's how high the winds were there.
		Near Buffalo, New York, cars were being swept away by water.
		Washington, D.C. is flooding.
		It is bitter cold in the Midwest.
		That continues.
		44 degrees, minus 44.
		Fargo, North Dakota, about one and a half feet more of snow.
		And minus 80 with wind.
		Minus 80 degrees.
		We've been hearing Minnesota temperatures.
		It went down yesterday to minus 90 degrees.
		That is dangerously cold.
		And authorities are telling people, you better stay home.
		You better not go out.
		If you do, you could die.
		In other words, it could be fatal.
		Chicago at midday yesterday was 61 degrees.
		Today it's 10 degrees.
		So I'm trying to figure this weather thing out.
		Winter not yet halfway over even.
		There was a terrible fire at an apartment building in Chicago.
		My guess is, if you watch the news or are glued to it as I am, one fireman caught a nine-year-old child falling from the fifth floor in mid-air.
		Heroic indeed, lucky beyond belief.
		He actually, as she fell, as she went by, he caught her in mid-air.
		Now, you wouldn't think they'd be able to find a political aspect in the cold weather and the government shut down with regard to a fire, you know, a tragedy, and yet, oh, they've done it.
	U.S. Secretary of Housing Henry Cisneros has said the fire is because the government is shut down because there should have been building inspections and weren't.
	In other words, he did everything but say that fire was a Republican fire.
	The mayor of Chicago doesn't believe that at all.
	Richard Daly accused the administration of trying to take political advantage of a tragedy.
	And, you know, it does seem a little that way, doesn't it?
	This, as usual, insightful from Scott up in Butte Creek, Oregon.
	Hi, Art.
	So Henry Cisneros is blaming the Republicans for the fire in Chicago that killed four.
	That's a bigger reach than that brave firefighter made in catching a little girl.
	Maybe these people think before they open their mouths.
	It really is thickening, which is kind of like the quickening politically that they would make a comment of that sort.
	I mean, it really, really is reprehensible as far as I'm concerned.
	Now, look, Friday morning, Saturday, Saturday night, Friday night, Saturday morning.
	We try and do things a bit differently here in that we are more open.
	And if you guys want to go to the wild side, more than normal, that's possible.
	It's okay.
	In Chechnya, or in the Chechnyan situation, in Turkey, the crisis has ended peacefully.
	The hostages are free.
	Turkish government said it didn't make any concessions to the government, nor did they attack them.
	In Moscow, it worked out a bit differently.
	A village was leveled in Russia.
	It was leveled by elite Russian troops who were very angry at the politicians for allowing the rebels to dig in for four days, who are very hurt, having taken many casualties.
	The elite Russian troops complained their radios did not work.
	They couldn't even talk to each other.
	They did manage to kill 180 rebels with relentless rocket launches, multiple rocket launchers, tanks, and so forth and so on.
	A Janet Reno-sized force.
	Nevertheless, 150 escaped and including the leader of the Chechen rebels and made it back to Chechnya.
	I'll tell you something, this isn't over.
	The Moscovites fear the worst, that there'll be some sort of nuclear or biological or something or another that'll happen to them.
	And it may.
	Boris Yeltsin was attacked relentlessly in the Russian press for his handling of this.
	Meanwhile, back in Washington, our president says, well, he's trying to give Yeltsin wide latitude in dealing with terrorism because, quote, this is Bill Clinton, because, quote, Russia is fundamentally a democracy, end quote.
	Now, how would you characterize that statement by our president?
	Russia is fundamentally a democracy.
unidentified		How would you characterize that statement by our president?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I guess you could try and make that argument.
		It seems poor timing to make that argument after what just occurred to that village and the women and children and everybody else.
		I mean, they just massively, frontally attacked and leveled that village without respect to the hostages, without a whole lot of negotiation.
		They did not wait nearly so long as our government did at Waco.
		They did not wait nearly so long.
		And so Bill Clinton's response is, well, they're fundamentally a democracy, so we've got to give them latitude in going after these terrorists.
		It's a weird world, huh?
		Big story on NBC about the baby boomers, and I always pay attention to these because I'm a boomer, sort of, on the cusp of the boom, 1945, middle of the year.
		78 million baby kaboomers out there, maybe that's a better name, worried now very much about their golden years with good cause because they may not be so golden.
		One baby boomer turns 50 every 7.5 seconds.
		10,000 a day.
		And you know what?
		What a surprise, huh?
		They are not ready for retirement.
		Many with no retirement money at all.
unidentified		None.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They have borrowed.
		They have spent.
		They are in debt.
		They are the generation which once said and practiced their live for today slogan.
		The only problem is they had their fun then, and now today is over, and tomorrow is almost here.
		And it is a very interesting story in a lot of ways.
		In other words, where, how do you, what are your expectations?
		Do you think that you're going to be comfortable in retirement?
		Are you beginning to get scared?
		You know, if you're in your 50s and you're not beginning to get ahead a little bit, you're going to live to be an average 76 point something or another years of age.
		So you've got about 13, 15 years that you're going to have to make it without a regular income.
		Are you ready for that?
		I have a feeling that's what shapes a lot of political opinion in this country.
		And when you're making money, you obviously pretty much want to keep it, or as much of it as you can.
		Now, when the boomers get to the point where they're at the end of their work life and they're ready for the golden years, gone fishing, only they can't go fishing because they can't even afford a pole and a little bit of fishing line and a hook and sinker Because they're sunk So what do you think and be honest with me?
		Are you ready now for retirement?
		Or can you see that by the time you're going to retire, you're going to be comfortable?
		Company pensions?
		The Social Security system?
		A little iffy.
		And so if those don't come through for you, have you saved money?
		Have you invested wisely?
		Do you have a nice little nest egg put away?
		Are you going to be able to live?
		I don't I don't know, it's a big, big problem for the baby boomers.
		I'm one of them.
		Now, you want to talk about intriguing, speculative inviting news, this is it.
		The Galileo probe survived in Jupiter's atmosphere for one hour.
		But in that hour, we got a hell of a lot of data.
		and apparently the scientists have already interpreted much of this data and what NBC said is that NASA says the information from Galileo that we have gathered about Jupiter's atmosphere may force,
		I'm quoting now, may force a re-evaluation of how the solar system was formed.
		Oh, that's a very non-trivial thing to say.
		I wonder how far out on a limb they're going to go.
		But the information is that hot.
		It may force a re-evaluation of how the solar system was formed in the first place.
		The information is due to be released tomorrow.
unidentified		So what do you think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think they might have discovered on Jupiter, an intriguing planet anyway, that would lead us away from our present scientific ideas of the formation of the universe?
		Now, this is a very, very non-trivial thing for them to come out and say something that strong.
		What do you think they mean?
		There was no Big Bang.
		There was no solid mass and void and then explosion.
		What do they mean?
		A more trivial aspect of the formation of the universe?
		Nothing really trivial about it in an awful lot of ways.
		So I don't know.
		But I think we'll stop there, and I've got some more.
		I've got Bosnia seems on track for now.
		Spring, I believe, will tell the tale.
		If there's going to be trouble in Bosnia, it will not come for the most part until the spring.
		Anyway, I think I'll get the phone lines open.
		I am so intrigued, as you could well imagine, by this kind of drop-in by NBC about the Jupiter probe, Galileo, having gathered information so startling that it may force a re-evaluation of how the entire solar system was formed.
		You ever wonder how wrong we might have it?
		I know what it says in the Bible, but I have always felt that the hand of God may well have been absolutely involved in the beginning of the process that we call creation.
		And what seems to be a specific creation by the hand of God may be a non-specific creation.
		In other words, we're not gods.
		We don't know.
		And his hand, that's why I don't find these two theories of evolution and creation to be so much at odds with each other.
		I mean, who is to say that God didn't say, all right, let there be?
		And then the process of nature, even with nature to some degree having in effect a free will, the process began.
		The creation began.
		And maybe God didn't tend to every little tiny detail.
		He just sort of said, let the games begin, as it were.
		Anyway, this is the kind of story that you know I love.
		So if you would like to get your two cents worth in, you're welcome to do so.
		Let me give you the official version of the numbers.
		And next hour, I'm going to open up a DX line for an hour, an international line.
		And it'll be kind of fun to see where we are heard.
		Anyway, right now, if you are a first-time caller to the program, the number is Area Code 702-727-1222.
		The wildcard lines, Area Code 702-727-1295.
		702-727-1295.
		Naturally, there is a free way for you to call in.
		West of the Rockies, it's 1-800-618-8255.
		1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, it's 1-800-8255033.
		1-800-8255033.
		Also, Paul Niskinin will be here in about an hour and a half to talk about, briefly talk about the cruise we're going to take.
		He's the guy who plans these things, and he is brilliant at what he does.
		I've got coming after the bottom of the hour here, a very special announcement about a guest that I've got coming up Monday that I think a lot of you knew that I was working on.
		And I have found somebody who is going to be more than suitable.
		Monday's program is Monday night, Tuesday morning.
		It's going to be a knockdown drag out, and that's the tease I'll give you right now.
unidentified		In a minute, when we come back, I'll tell you all about him.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Top oh, the morning to you.
		It's good to be here.
		It's a Friday night, Saturday morning, or Sunday night, Monday morning, depending on when you're hearing this.
		And that's kind of a cool thing, too.
		You can call on this program and then, I guess, listen to your own call on Sunday night, Monday morning in many areas.
		Now, listen, coming up Monday night, Tuesday morning, I've connected with Ken Goddard.
		Who is Ken Goddard?
		Well, he's ex-FBI.
		He's now director of the National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Lab.
		And they're up in Oregon.
		It is, as a matter of fact, the only government-sanctioned lab of its type.
		And they do a lot of things there that he can talk about.
		And they do a lot of things there he's not going to be able to talk about.
		One of the things he will chat with us about is what's going on in Australia.
		So yes, we'll talk about viruses.
		You see, they do that kind of work up there.
		That isn't say they create them.
		It is to say, though, that they know about them.
		And so we'll be talking about the viruses that are strangely popping up now.
		Some of them not so strange, engineered by man with the possibility of jumping hosts down in Australia and the horrendous implications that would have.
		That may have 100% fatality rate, by the way, for rabbits.
		So if it were to jump hosts, one would possibly presume it would treat humans about the same way.
		Then again, Paul Niskinen, who, you know, the last time I interviewed Paul, we do that once a year.
		I interviewed Paul last year because we were doing the China, you know, the Orient trip, the 95 Orient trip.
		And at that time, I didn't know Paul, and I didn't know the kind of work he did because the trip had not yet occurred.
		What he gave us was so superb, so well done in every way, that this time I know what's coming.
		I know what kind of job these people do.
		It's incredible.
		It's awesome.
		And any of the people who took the Orient cruise are welcome to call and say, I cannot imagine you could not say the exact same thing.
		Gosh, these people were good.
		And so he'll be here to tell us about the Scandinavian Russian cruise coming up in August.
		It'll be the one time you'll get an opportunity to hear it from the man who plans it, so you don't want to miss that.
		That'll be about an hour and a half.
		Already comments on what I've said aren't baby boomers.
		In my case, there is no tomorrow.
		Is that clear enough?
		Duane in Seattle.
		B.S., have you...
		Well, yes.
		1.4 faxes per night.
		Dwayne.
		The limits on faxing, yeah, I'd like it if you would hold it to once per night.
		There are exceptions, you know, I mean, if something's going on and it's hot, then obviously, yes.
		Otherwise, one fax would really suffice.
		And generally, one page would suffice.
		They are the ones that I tend to read because they're short to the point and so forth and so on.
		So I prefer one, but I mean, if something's going on.
		Now, if you send more than three pages, my fax machine will not print them, and I will not see them.
		So you have wasted your money.
		Now, I was forced to do that because of the number of faxes that I get.
		But, you know, on one full written type sheet, you definitely ought to be able to convey whatever it is you want to say.
		One other fax from Ron down in Birmingham, Alabama.
		Dear Art, I looked for the L.A. Times article on your show without success.
		Could you please announce where it was found, date, section, or page number?
		Well, all right.
		It was this last Saturday's L.A. Times.
		It was on the front of the calendar section.
		And I'll tell you kind of an interesting story.
		My wife's mom lives in Orange County, so she grabbed some copies for us.
		And when it got here, the entire article was there.
		But it was on the bottom of the front page of the calendar section in black and white.
		Then some of you sent me copies of the LA LA Times, and it was at the top of the calendar section, front page, and it was a very large, full color picture.
		So apparently, I guess the LA Times in Orange County is somehow put together in a different way than the one that is intended for L.A. So that's where it was.
	That's when it was.
	I don't know if you can get a copy of it.
	I suppose stuff like that is archived.
	And I didn't think it, you know, it was not a bad photo.
	I mean, you can tell me a lot of you, I know, saw it.
	All right, it's off to Two Way Radioville.
	And aside from Paul Niskan in here for a while, in the next hour.
	No, the following hour.
	It'll be open lines all night long.
	First time caller align, you're on the air.
	Hi.
unidentified		Hi, my name is Mark.
unidentified		Calling from Phoenix.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Mark.
unidentified		Listen, I enjoy your show very much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		I wanted to let you know that I share your fascination for astronomical events like the Galileo probe.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a pretty strong statement, isn't it, that the information may force a reevaluation of how the solar system was formed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah, I think, and, you know, you mentioned right after that that it sort of got you to think about God, you know, and I, you know, that's kind of what it makes me think about, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, yeah, sure.
		Of course.
		I mean, it certainly we can't do it, can we?
		We can't create.
		It takes God or something.
		And I think God, and, you know, there's always this great argument between evolution and creation and how it was done.
		And I see the possibility of God, a supreme being, simply saying, more or less, create, and then allowing the process to ensue without being involved in every little tiny detail of the creation as he was not involved in every little tiny detail or is not of our lives at the moment.
unidentified		Right, right.
unidentified		I just sort of agree that that whole process is a little bit of a mystery and we shouldn't try to figure it out too much.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wonder if we ought to know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if we will ever, or even if we should know.
unidentified		Well, I think we will.
unidentified		But that's, you know, a reason for that is I myself am a Christian and I believe I'll know someday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I think you probably will, yes.
		Just too bad.
		One thing's too bad.
		You can't come back and tell us.
unidentified		Well, why don't we all go there?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Well, we will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, except perhaps.
		Oh, I'm getting more faxes from people who claim to be immortal.
		You know, it's the dog-honest thing you've ever heard.
		People claiming to be immortal.
		There are more of them than you can know, and either there are a whole bunch of liars out there.
		And I know this is going to give plenty of fodder to those who like throwing snowballs at me.
		But maybe there is something to it.
		Maybe there are some people out there.
		I mean, I've had some very serious, very serious faxes.
		People who claim they've been here for hundreds of years or thousands, thousands in some cases.
		And I just, somehow it got brought up one night, and then I began to get the faxes.
		And I'm not sure what to make of it.
		Either there are some very articulate, credible-sounding people who absolutely claim to be immortal, or there are some very articulate, credible-sounding congenital liars out there, and I have no way of knowing which.
		But I really do mildly suspect there may be something to it, and there may be some of those out there that don't simply don't age.
		That, too, is a fascinating topic.
		East of the Great Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
unidentified		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		good, Art.
unidentified		Let me get my...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Get that sucker turned down.
unidentified		There she goes.
		All right.
		Okay, well, I was just trying to write down, you know, in order of what I wanted to talk to you about, but you caught me in mid-sentence.
		So the jump of the Aussie virus to a different species.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And you were talking about how that might go to humans.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it could eventually, or it could go to another host like a mouse, like the hunter virus went to the mouse, for example.
unidentified		That's what I was thinking, something like to the kangaroos.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And somebody called yesterday and said, well, you know, that doesn't mean it's going to jump to a human.
		No, it doesn't mean it.
		But in fact, I said, remember, the hunter virus did jump to humans.
unidentified		Right, right.
		And also, now, what was that about the telescope thing?
		I missed the first part of your show tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, there's, no, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Galileo.
unidentified		The Galileo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You remember that, the probe that went down into Jupiter?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it survived one hour in Jupiter's atmosphere.
		And in that hour, it sent back a real bundle of data.
		And NBC said last night that NASA is saying the information due to be released tomorrow, quote, may force a re-evaluation of how the solar system was formed.
unidentified		Interesting.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, very interesting.
unidentified		I always thought that it had something to do with centrifugal force and like the mass of different particles.
unidentified		If you figure that Venus, if you took some of the carbon dioxide from Venus and put it on Mars and some of the water from Mars and put it on Venus, and here we are smack dab in the middle with the perfect amount for life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, for our life.
unidentified		For our life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is very egotistical to imagine that life can only be based as we are based.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There may be carbon-based life.
unidentified		And also the satellite that saw those planets that are possibly capable of sustaining life 35 million light years away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Hubble, yes.
unidentified		Right.
		The thing is, they said that those planets are about the size of Jupiter.
		Right.
		So if we stepped upon them, we'd instantly be smashed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we'd be little puddles.
		Well, actually, long before we got to the surface.
		But wait a minute now.
		Wait a minute now.
		Don't hold it.
		Think about it the other way around.
		Let us say, as the scientists imagine, that those planets may support life.
		Right.
		Suppose that life came here.
unidentified		With its own evolution, right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no, let's just say they got a spaceship in the air into space, crossed that many light years, and arrived on Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, what would a being capable of living on one of the two planets we just talked about be here?
unidentified		What would he be here?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what he'd be?
unidentified		He'd be pretty strong.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He'd be Superman.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		He'd be Superman, and you know we'd need kryptonite quick.
unidentified		You betcha.
unidentified		He'd probably run for office, too, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, he'd probably just simply take the office.
unidentified		Well, love your show, Art.
unidentified		Thanks for taking my call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		In other words, any biological organism to live on such a planet would have to be incredibly dense, incredibly strong, and if that being was here, it would be literally Superman, certainly in strength, in the strength category, if nothing else.
		bullets would not pierce his skin, that kind of thing.
unidentified		sad sound
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Jeff, the record cat from Milwaukee 620 WTMJ.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, just wanted to inform you, just in case somebody didn't call you, about the weather down here.
		Yesterday topped out about 53 degrees, about noonish.
		The temperature fell.
		And by about 10 o'clock at night, it was about 10 degrees with a wind chill, about 25 below.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about now?
unidentified		It's still, it's not quite as cold.
unidentified		I would say it's like 10, 15 degrees below wind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zero?
		Well, I don't know what to say about that except better thee than me.
		It's been running up to about 65, 70 degrees here during the day.
		It's been really hard to take.
unidentified		Well, seems like really nice compared to here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, yeah, I know.
		The weather, my friend, is strange.
		And the only question worth asking is, is this a cycle?
		Did we have a bad hurricane season, the worst, followed by a terrible winter?
		Is it just sort of a cycle or an aberration, a beginning of a profound change?
unidentified		I think it's an aberration.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not a change.
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So next year, it might be much better.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Hopefully.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you very much.
		My prediction would be the opposite.
		At least with regard to next year, I think this year is going to be terrible.
		A bad hurricane season.
		Next year, it will be even worse.
		That's my prediction.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		This is Rick in Peru, Indiana.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi there.
unidentified		How you doing?
		All right.
		How goes the battle with pulling the old proverbial cancerous nails out of your coffin?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, I'm not sure that quitting after this period of time pulls them out.
		Maybe it stops the final few from being nailed in.
		Yeah, I can relate.
		But it's on and off.
		It's a struggle, I'll tell you.
unidentified		I was curious to see what brand name you did, smoke, or can you announce that over the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I could.
		But I'm not going to.
		I don't want to mention a brand name, but I'll tell you this.
		I believe they claim to have the lowest tar and nicotine of any brand made.
		A lot of people, you know, sometimes I'll give them one of my cigarettes and they puff on it and they give it back.
		They say, hey, this isn't even a cigarette.
unidentified		Yeah, Mr. Prediction Show, I wanted to give you a prediction about the guy with the orangutan bone marrow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what would you have predicted?
unidentified		I would have predicted that he would have died in 96.
unidentified		Because...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, would I ever like to interview that guy.
unidentified		Well, you know how it is.
unidentified		Almost every time we mess with Mother Nature, she has a tendency to bite us back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't mean that we cannot make scientific progress.
unidentified		Well, I can understand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I do sort of agree with that general assessment.
		We mess around, and then it's kind of like this thing in Australia where the scientists wanted to kill the rabbits, So they had a little island, they had an experiment, it got loose.
		Now it's killing rabbits all over Australia.
		Now there are people talking about it jumping hosts.
		And it seems like when we mess with Mother Nature, yeah, she comes back and kicks us in the butt.
unidentified		Yep, I can relate.
unidentified		Well, and thanks for the call and have a good show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you and have a good morning.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Well, ding-dongs, Mr. Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		This is Pete in Portland.
		Yes.
		Lovely liberal Portland, where Al Gore has just come to roost for our Senate race.
		You've heard about that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Up there supporting, yes, Mr. M. Yeah, Ron Wyden.
unidentified		I'd like to say hello to all my militant brethren, you know, the Missoula Hadeen, the Chattanooga Chechens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Missouma Madden.
unidentified		The Missoula Hadeens.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The Missoula Hade.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not the Mujah Hadeen.
unidentified		And the Chattanooga Chechens.
		The Santa Fe Deans.
		The Albuquerque Bijani.
		And of course the Baton Rouge Guards.
		Hello, brothers.
		Keep your heads down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, I wish I could laugh at that.
		I'm not laughing about that.
		I am, though, I'm trying to put together, we've got a request in to the BATF to get an agent, public person, to talk to us.
		And then I think I would like to get somebody from one of the militias or maybe even one of the so-called free men on the same program.
		Now, would that be interesting or what?
unidentified		Surely would.
		You know that guy from this big planet that you were speculating on?
		Yeah.
		He might be a Superman, but he'd also be only 15 inches tall and about 6 feet wide.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that also would be...
		Now, I mean, who's to say, though?
		They would need a wide, strong base of support.
unidentified		They'd be squashed by the gravity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But still, they might go rolling over us the way Schwarzkopf did the Iraqis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Could be.
unidentified		Or slip under us like those flying flatjacks on Star Trek episodes, I remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, they would almost have to be that.
		So they would be super beings to us.
		And we'd probably be shining their flat little shoes.
		Listen, I've got to run.
unidentified		Bye-bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much for the call.
		Top of the hour news coming, and then we'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		Music by Ben Thede
		Music by Ben Thede Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		Good morning, everybody.
		Lots to talk about, but you know what I'm going to do this hour?
		I'm going to do this hour what I did in the last hour yesterday.
		Now, it's going to be fun.
		It's kind of a fun experiment.
		And you know me, I'm a ham radio operator, so this is my kind of thing anyway.
		And I'll tell you when I was a child, I had a dream that one day I would be on a 50,000-watt clear channel station.
		I had that dream as a boy, listening to my actually my first radio that my mom got me was a seven transistor, they counted transistors in those days, a seven transistor GE radio.
		And I would spend my nights listening to the farthest away station I could hear.
		Well, now I've grown up, and my wish really has come true.
		I hope yours can someday, or is now.
		But mine has certainly come true in spades.
		We're on about, I think, 244 stations right now nationwide, and a very large number of them are big, 50,000-watt clear-channel radio stations.
		So yesterday at 3 in the morning, and this is what I'm a little unsure of, what are the better times to try this?
unidentified		But I think that I would like to try it now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We may not be so good at this time across the pole.
		I got calls last night from Norway, from Japan, from Johnston Island, from, oh gosh, just all over the place.
		Okinawa.
		We're heard all over the place.
		But you see, at this earlier hour now, we have the advantage of the monster WOAI down in San Antonio.
		And I'm telling you right now, because I was in Mazamon, they blast down there.
		They're really, they go south like a rocket.
		And some other Midwest stations like WJR Detroit, which must go all over the place, and so on and so forth, Como and Seattle.
		And I really couldn't name them all, but we're radiating out all over the place.
		And there are a lot of people who are what are called DXers.
		So I hereby, for the balance of this hour, set aside the following number for only international calls.
		International calls.
		If you are, and I'm by that, now obviously we know we're heard in Mexico, but farther down would be interesting.
		Heard in Canada, but farther up would be interesting.
		But if you're out in the Pacific, Tahiti, Japan, Okinawa, Johnson Island, Guam, any of those far-flung places, and you're able to hear my voice, I'm going to give you a number.
		I'm going to ask the rest of the audience, difficult as it is, to cooperate, and not call this number.
		Just hold it open for international calls.
		As of right now, the number to call internationally is one, or excuse me, in America, Area Code 7027271222.
		Only internationally.
		Call America at Area Code 7027271222.
		And if everybody else would be kind enough to refrain for just one hour, maybe some of these people will be able to get through.
		Let me give it one more time because I know there is a lot of fading out there.
		So if you've got a big antenna up somewhere and you're hearing us way far away, let's devote this hour to seeing exactly where we can be heard.
		Area code 702-727-1222.
		Internationally only.
		Now, otherwise, hi, Art.
		Could you say hi to my wife, Lisa?
		She's in my truck listening to your show right now, and she'd freak out.
		Thanks.
		Mike in Spokane.
		No, Mike, I'm not allowed to do that.
		We're talking about a most remarkable story dropped off at NBC's midpoint in their evening newscast about the Galileo probe.
		It survived, as you know, one hour in Jupiter's atmosphere.
		Not a long time, but long enough so that NBC said that NASA is going to release information tomorrow, now today, later today, that their words now, quote, may force a re-evaluation of how the solar system was formed, end quote.
		Now, is that intriguing or what?
		How the solar system was formed.
		I wonder exactly what this will challenge.
		It's an obvious statement.
		You read between the lines.
		It's going to challenge traditional scientific thinking.
		And, you know, I mean, here we are.
		We're people who can't even figure out if beta-carotene is good for us or not.
unidentified		So one day it is, next day it isn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
unidentified		But intriguing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I wonder what you think they might be about to say later today about the differences.
		And then I've got little facts here I'd like to read you, which I think that you will enjoy.
		The secret of anti-gravity.
		Listen now.
		If you drop, and I'm sure I know this is right.
		If you drop a buttered piece of bread, it falls on the floor, butterside down every time.
		If a cat is dropped from a window or other high and towering places, inevitably it lands on its feet.
		Do you agree with both of those?
		I have dropped, I don't know how many pieces of bread with butter, and this guy's right.
		They always fall down on the buttered side, and when you pick it up, you get little pieces of carpet that come back up in the butter.
		By the way, do you eat it?
		Anyway, and the cat thing is true, too.
		I mean, don't torture your animal, but if you toss your cat a little bit, they like that sometimes, they land on their feet.
		But now my factor goes on, but what if you attach a buttered piece of bread, butter side up, to a cat's back and toss them both out the window?
		Will the cat land on its feet or will the butter splat on the ground?
		The secret of gravity revealed.
		And this, you want a little more interesting fodder.
		Art first it was on nightline, then on dateline, and now in the January issue of Popular Mechanics, there's an article about mind control.
		Wonder what medium we'll hear about this very interesting subject next in Matt listening to the mighty 770s.
		See, there's another one, big old clear channel monster in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
		Heard who knows where.
		But it's a good point, Matt.
		More and more articles in the mainstream press about mind control.
		Who knows?
		Maybe there is such a thing.
		And you've got to wonder if it is your mind that might be controlled.
		Are you a Clinton supporter?
		Just kidding.
		And finally, this.
		From Carrie and Carol in Mesa, Arizona art.
		Oh, it's Friday night, Saturday morning, and you're discussing outer space kinds of things.
		How about opening up the alien line?
		You haven't done it in a long, long time.
		Please, please, please, if groveling and begging would help, consider me groveling and begging.
		Some of the aliens out there might have some of the answers about the evolution of the solar system.
		Anyway, love you art.
		Please, the alien line tonight.
		Well, all right, I'll tell you what.
		This hour I'm devoting to international calls if we can get them.
		Many as we can get.
		Next hour, first part, Paul Niskanen, and he'll be telling us about the trip.
		And then, then, okay.
		Okay.
		I will do it.
		I will open the alien line.
		And for those that have never experienced the alien line, all I can say is, prepare yourselves.
		Good morning.
		You're on the coast to coast AM with Art Bell.
		Where are you calling from, please?
unidentified		From the Arctic Circle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're at the Arctic Circle?
unidentified		Well, we're 56 miles from the Arctic Circle from Echo Bay Mines in 350 miles north of the LA, Canada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		I say again, wow.
		That's quite a location.
		What do you do up there?
unidentified		Well, we're in a...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Well, hello, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, sir.
unidentified		Love your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		We're doing a survey on the musk ox population up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		Hold it.
		On what population?
unidentified		Musk ox.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're a big, sorry.
unidentified		They're a very stinky animal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The big, stinky animal?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you learned about?
unidentified		I can't believe I got through here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you learned about the big stinky animal up?
unidentified		Well, they stink.
		But also, we've learned an amazing thing.
		There is four of us sitting around a table here, drinking a bottle of Canadian club, and we came to an amazing conclusion about the USA.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, when you have enough Canadian club, that is possible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What have you concluded?
unidentified		Well, your militia problem and your weather problem and your Clinton military policy problem are all directly related.
unidentified		Would you like me to elaborate on that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Connect.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, connect them.
unidentified		Okay, up in Canada here, we have no militia as such.
unidentified		As everyone knows, we're kind of like spread thinner than pink on a Chevrolet, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, why do you pick on Chevrolet?
unidentified		Well, because they won't start up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is not a positive American falsehood.
unidentified		We're having a problem getting them started up here.
unidentified		At any rate, oh, boy, now that I'm on the air, I'm all nervous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I'm not the militia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And we don't have the militia.
unidentified		And another thing we don't have up in Canada is a massive loss of life.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No Arctic Circle Protection Force?
unidentified		No, we don't have the militia.
		Well, we're kind of actually hoping you guys would be supplying that.
		At any rate, we don't have the militia, and we don't have a massive loss of life or big cities shutting down or mass hysteria whenever we get a couple feet of snow or some cold weather and stuff like that.
		So the four of us here are going to be a little bit more.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm beginning to conclude this is a very anti-American call.
unidentified		Well, no, it's not anti-American, but we're just kind of thinking that militia to us kind of means like strength in numbers, right?
		And being spread so thin apart, we can't get the groups together to have the militia.
		So we're basically we can't have them.
		So we don't have them.
		And the other thing we don't have is all this hysteria about the weather.
		Well, right now, let's see here, for example.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, how is the weather in the Arctic, sir?
unidentified		All right, right now, well, this is in Canadian metric stuff.
		So, okay, it's minus 44 Celsius.
		So it's about, I guess that'd be 43 Fahrenheit, minus 43 Fahrenheit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Minus 43 degrees.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		43 degrees below.
unidentified		We have a little wind, about 35 kilometers an hour, which is about 20 miles per hour down there.
		And in the last 10 days or so, we've had 8 inches of snow per day, so we're up around 2 meters, which would be about 6 feet of snow.
		And it just seems to keep coming down.
		And it basically hasn't even stopped the school bus down up here yet.
		So we're not really too worried about the weather.
		But you have to dress for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much, at this time of year, how much daylight are you getting every day?
unidentified		It's basically dark.
		It's dark right now.
		In the summertime, though, it's very nice up here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
unidentified		Hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hold it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say basically dark, you mean dark 24 hours a day?
unidentified		Yeah, it doesn't.
		Well, it's not really, really totally dark.
		You can see the red horizon to the south of us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's as much light as you get, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, and now, but in the summertime, we get nothing but daylight, so it's well worth it, I guess.
		We don't dare go outside, though, at this time of year.
		But anyway, these four drunken musk ox counters here have come to the conclusion that here comes the anti-American part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
unidentified		So we figure you guys are a little bit wimpy when you're weather and that, right?
unidentified		And then the second part of the problem, or the, I don't know how to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Come on, sir, lay it out.
unidentified		All right.
		Here we go.
		First off, we don't have any militias up here.
		Actually, in Canada, we don't have any militias at all.
		Even I'm from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada, which is fairways south from here, about 1,100 kilometers south of here.
		We don't have any militias there.
		And we still get some pretty bad weather.
		And we don't get the massive loss of life in the big city shutting down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've said all this now.
		You've said all this.
		Now, what are you building toward?
		In other words, you're glad...
unidentified		I'm building slowly because I don't want you to cut me off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're going to be if you don't get there.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Anyway, so we don't have militias and we don't have hysteria over the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
		And the other thing is, the Clinton, here comes, okay, we don't want to put your government down or anything because us Canadians, A, we don't like to do that.
		But at any rate, your military is spread so thin right now that four of us, or make that three of us, one of us looks like there's only three of us left here, are going to strap on our sealskin binding snowshoes as soon as your blizzard get bad and we finish this bottle at Canadian Club, and we're going to come down there and take over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		Well, look, you couldn't do any worse than we're doing right now, so what the hell?
		Well, there was the first call from the International Live.
		That was a good one.
		Arctic Circle, huh?
		See, that's all they've got to do up there.
		Study stinking animals and drink Canadian club and get smashed.
		I imagine they're listening to Como or KGA, one of the two, blasting easily into the Arctic Circle, I should have asked.
		the international line is area code 702 seven two seven one two two two And you're on the air coast to coast and with Art Bell.
unidentified		Hi.
		Art, good morning.
		My name is Jim.
		I'm calling from Monterey, Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Monterey, Mexico.
		Hi, Jim.
		How are you?
unidentified		Fine.
		Thank you very much.
		I usually enjoy your show quite a bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where is Monterey?
unidentified		Monterey is just south of Macallan, Texas.
unidentified		You ever heard of Macallan?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, yes, of course.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know where.
unidentified		I drive up to Macallan, Texas about once a month or so, you know, to have some fun up there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's funny.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of Americans go to Mexico to have fun.
unidentified		Well, not so many nowadays.
unidentified		Not as they used to, you know, 20, 30 years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I visited Masatlan, as you may have heard if you listened to me.
unidentified		Yeah, I was there about six months ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the people I talked to in Masatlan felt that a revolution would come in Mexico, that it was probably inevitable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are your feelings about that?
unidentified		It's quite a question.
		I've been living in Mexico for about 35 years now.
		The situation isn't really very good.
		I would say that at least 50% of Mexicans are in a very, very poor situation, close to starvation.
		It's pretty bad.
		But Mexicans are sort of a noble type, you know.
		They're not the fighting type.
		If this was Europe or Argentina or something, something probably would be done about it.
		The big problem here is there are two problems, actually, ignorance and corruption.
		Ignorance allows corruption.
		And that's the way it goes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know there is a big problem with corruption in Mexico.
		So big that many of the people that we talked to said it simply will have to end.
		And they're very suspicious, of course, about the shootings that occurred prior to the election.
		And they said this is not going to last.
		There's going to be trouble.
		Would you generally agree or disagree?
unidentified		That probably, if things don't change, there probably will be trouble, but not in the near future.
unidentified		Not in the near future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If that should come, do you think there would be a rush, and I'm sure there would, of refugees leaving Mexico, trying to get away from it, and coming right across our border up here?
unidentified		Some probably would.
		Actually, as far as I'm concerned, I have a lot of friends who have bank accounts in Macau and Houston and San Antonio.
		And this type of person will probably try to get across the border, you know.
		It doesn't really create any problems for Americans because they come across the border just to spend their money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Thank you.
		I've got to go.
		We're at the bottom of the hour.
unidentified		Thank you very much for answering my phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for Monterey.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from January
		19, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from January
		19, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an on-core presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here we are.
		Good morning, everybody.
		It is good to be with you.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Don't forget, international calls only.
		And by that, I mean I want you way out there.
		Arctic Circle was good.
		Monterey, Mexico was good, but check this one out.
		On my international line, you're on the air.
		Hello there.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Hello there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from, sir?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		I'm calling from Perth, Australia.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		I am indeed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're really in Perth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're actually hearing us?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, just be quiet a second.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Let me listen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep, I'm hearing you.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Not on the radio, on the phone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, how were you able to hear us to know to call from Australia?
unidentified		Well, the guys on the IRC chat channel told me that, Art.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		How you going?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, it is an internet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You are in Perth, but you got there by knowing about all this from the IRC chat channel.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Cheat, cheat, cheat.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Stanley here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Stanley.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Very well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's everything down under?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Oh, just fine.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		I was clearing the space here on my desk for the CX computer and nothing else.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		I'm in the same process right now.
		As a matter of fact, you'd be a fun person to experiment with.
		You know, we've got this video telephone coming, and I'm going to be setting it up this weekend, and next week we're going to be experimenting, and it's going to mean even from Australia, you could download a little software, load it into your DX, call a certain number I'm going to give out, and see me in full moving color with sound coming out of your sound blaster over a regular phone line.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		All right, I've got to tell you something.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		This is sad, but I'm a Mac man.
unidentified		Oh, oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now this is deteriorating to the thin paint on Chevy's call.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Sorry about that.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about today?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, how's up.
		Actually, you know what?
		I'd like to ask you about the weather in Australia.
		It may sound mundane, but we're having what seems to be very weird, unusual, bizarre weather in America, both during this last summer and now our winter, your summer, I guess.
		And I would like to ask you if the weather is what you would consider normal down under.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, slightly different, I suppose, but I mean, over my part of the country, it's about as dry as ever.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		It was 108 degrees in the shade the other day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Big time summertime.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know Stan Dale?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Pardon?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know of a man named Stan Dale?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is Standale?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Stan.
		Hey, Ark, are you sick?
		no i've been fine i didn't hear your name i guess at the uh...
		It is embarrassing.
		Listen, then, I have another question for you there, Mr. Perth.
		And it is with respect to, I've got this big article about the rabbit virus.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and i want to ask you about that but first and there uh...
		there was something else recently about well let me let me go ahead and uh...
		ask you first about the I got one in which you said, look out down near Indonesia and off New York, I think you said.
		And then you sent me a second fact, and so I decided not to read the first facts.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand that, and for good reason.
		Just as we saw all this activity brewing in the north of us on our naval charts, the U.S. Navy that very day changed the color coding on the charts and screwed up the whole process so we couldn't see it for two or three days.
		They didn't do this on purpose, I don't think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Sam, it was very close because I almost read your first facts on the air and I just barely got, I mean, the email and I just barely got the second one in time.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may still be valid, but I wanted to double check because when the Navy expanded the color range on their chart, they did it so that they could take wilder fluctuations of temperature than we've been having.
		They upgraded it.
		Now, to us, what happens is when I try to subtract images from last week, from this week, it doesn't work because the colors don't match anymore by numbers.
		So we've had to wait three days and then reload it, or at least three charts.
		And I still see that we have troubles in Indonesia right up through the Philippines into northwest Australia.
		A severe earthquake warning is all I can say.
		I'm just looking over.
		Iceland may have a couple of small ones.
		New York is still under the threat.
		Southern California, Oregon, Mexico is probably the worst in the northern hemisphere.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Guatemala's got one bruising between it and Mexico border.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, look, the moment it becomes clear to you and you feel like making a definitive guess, you know, email me right away and I'll get it on the air for everybody.
		All right, now I want to jump topics.
		I've got an article here entitled Outbreak in the Outback.
		And it quotes an OSU researcher.
		I guess they had this rabbit virus, a hemorrhagic fever-type rabbit virus.
		They released on a little island.
		And they don't know how, but it got loose.
		And now it's killing rabbits all across, or beginning to spread all across Australia and kill all the rabbits, 95%, they think maybe even 100%, before it's over.
		And the scientist, Dr. Al Smith, says the following, quote, the worry would be the rabbit virus might jump hosts.
		If it did, it would be a disaster, end quote.
		What are you all hearing about that down there?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, I haven't seen a lot about it in the news or anything.
		Rabbit viruses are kind of old news down here because we used to have what's called myximatosis, which was another genetic virus they put out to kill the rabbits.
		We have millions and millions of rabbits in the outback, and they try to get rid of them as a plague.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I understand.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		To be honest, I haven't picked up a newspaper in a few weeks.
		I've been kind of busy doing some other things.
		But I haven't seen it on the news breaks on the television any mention about the virus.
		So I'll pay closer attention.
		If I find out something, I'll tell you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would very, very much appreciate that.
		maybe the next time we talk um...
		you you will find out something because it is definitely going on but i'll tell you that that means that Are you getting funny nosebleeds?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		My son and I have both been developing for some reason over the last couple of weeks.
unidentified		Hmm.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		If you don't hear from me, it's the fever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hemorrhagic fever.
		The first host, human host to be jumped to would be Standalo.
		All right, Stan, see what you can find out.
		Keep us updated.
		And I will, of course, as you know, once you send me a definitive piece of email, I'll get it on the air right away.
unidentified		Thanks, Art.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my friend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's StanDale in Perth, Australia, taking advantage of the international line.
unidentified		Cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're on the air, coast to coast, a.m. with Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
unidentified		Good morning, Art.
unidentified		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm calling from Winnipeg Beach, Manitoba.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Winnipeg Beach?
unidentified		Yeah, it's about 60 miles north of Winnipeg.
		Whoa, cool.
		And I'm picking you up on WJR Detroit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a big one.
unidentified		Yeah, I got that Xena Trans Oceanic Radio.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've got one?
unidentified		Yeah, I bought it for $50 at a garage sale about six years ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it the tube or transistor?
unidentified		It's a transistor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Transistor.
unidentified		I guess so.
unidentified		Yeah, I guess, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was one of the later ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The earlier ones used tubes.
unidentified		I think it is.
		Actually, it is tubes, I think.
		I've never really opened it up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're going to open the back, and you're going to look in there, and you'll see right away tubes or not.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Okay, and the reason I'm calling, too, is I was wondering if, like, I listen to you quite a bit when I'm in Winnipeg.
		I live in Winnipeg.
		I'm at the cabin right now, because I'm ice fishing, smoking some gold eyes.
		And I was wondering, I was listening to you the other night about San Diego, about those UFOs or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Is there any more information on that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there were a number of people eating, you know.
unidentified		There were, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, in La Jolla residence.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All they found was shoes and socks.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, geez, that would have been nice, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm kidding.
		No, I don't.
		There were reports of, widely across San Diego, of a sonic boom, and then somebody who saw something that he described about as the size of a bus.
unidentified		I know, I heard, yeah, that's what I was listening to.
		See, one of our affiliates in Winnipeg, we pick you up on Dreamland, and that's the only time we pick you up.
		Oh, that's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They carry Dreamland, don't you?
unidentified		Yeah, on Fox or 1290.
		Yeah, Winnipeg does.
		And then we don't get you coast to coast, though, at all.
		I usually pick you up from KSTP, Minneapolis.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know why that is?
		It's because for some reason, Canadian stations are afraid of American politics.
		And so they shy away from it.
		But my show is so kind of eclectic that I really think a number of Canadian stations would want to begin to reconsider.
		And we might have the one show that really would play very well in Canada.
unidentified		Oh, yes, definitely.
		I know lots of people that listen to Dreamland because there is a lot of UFO sightings around here.
		Like, I don't know, sightings will have the one in Lockport, where, like, Lockport's about 30 miles north of Winnipeg.
		And they're in July in the summer, like, the whole town saw it.
		It was, like, about 200 feet in the air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And here we go again.
unidentified		Did you hear about that one?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but I hear about similar things all the time.
		Not singular sightings.
		Way, way to the south of you, past us in Mexico, hundreds of thousands of people are seeing UFOs on a daily basis.
		And so, you know, there's something going on.
unidentified		No, most definitely.
		Like, I'm out here, like, it's 40 below.
		I'm here.
		I'm out to the cabin on the weekends.
		I don't have a TV.
		I just have the Zenith radio.
		And I bought that just to listen to hockey games.
		Like, I listened to Detroit Red Wings, St. Louis Blues hockey games or whatever in my spare time and yourself, of course.
		And it's a good radio to have.
		I hear about this new one you have.
		I can't see it being better than the Zenith.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		It is, eh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
		There's been a lot of advance since the day of the Zenith, sir.
		Yeah.
		It was, of its time, the classic radio.
		But, you know, there's new transistor devices that are far by magnitudes more sensitive and selective.
unidentified		Actually, yeah, this radio has eight tubes in it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've got one of the really old ones.
unidentified		Yeah, I think it's a 1948.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That'd be about right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've got to run.
unidentified		Okay, thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		My international line.
		Now, I want people way out there.
		Give me somebody in the Pacific.
		I want somebody on Johnson Island or on the island of Okinawa or Japan or China or Guam or Tahiti.
		I wish they could get through from Tahiti.
		I really, really would like to get a call from Tahiti.
		So what about it?
		International 702-727-1222.
		That's area code 702-727-1222.
		On our international line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I'm from Longyear, Spitsbergen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Which is where?
unidentified		It's about 150 miles north of Norway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And how are you managing to hear us that far away?
unidentified		I don't really know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you know about where on the dial you're hearing it?
unidentified		It's in the high ranges.
unidentified		I'm not sure, around 1,100, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That could be, if it's 1,000, yes, it could be K-O-M-O in Seattle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And they go north and they go right over the pole.
unidentified		Well, that very well could be, with something to do with the atmosphere and bouncing it off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, it definitely occurs.
		And from Seattle, you've got a good shot up across pole, so that could easily be.
		Are you an American?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And what are you doing there?
unidentified		Well, I'm here with my parents.
unidentified		Ah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Vacation?
unidentified		No, my dad's a geothermal...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A geothermal something, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, he goes around to the oil fields here, and I think he surveys them.
unidentified		I'm not really sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so what do you do there?
unidentified		Well, pretty much nothing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much nothing, huh?
unidentified		There's lots of cross-country skiing here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll bet there is.
		I'll bet there is.
		How long does it snow?
		Yeah, I'm sure.
		How long are you going to be there?
unidentified		Not too much longer.
		We're going back to America in a little bit.
		In a couple of months, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're glad you were able to hear us and glad to be able to keep a line open so you could get through.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, and take care.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		and more international in a moment.
unidentified		sad music
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now back to my international line.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hi, Art.
		This is John.
		I'm calling you from Ensenada, Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, John.
unidentified		And we're hearing you on Cogo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Cogo?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll bet, yes, they go south quite nicely from San Diego.
unidentified		Yeah, what I wanted to call you about, although I live in Mexico, I work in Trinidad.
		And for those of your listeners who don't know where Trinidad is, that's at the south end of the West Indy Chain, just north of the north coast of South America.
		Yes, sir.
		Before I go on to what I wanted to tell you about something that happened to me recently, you mentioned that you are heard in South America, and I'm wondering if there's any way I can pick you up in Trinidad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Is that a short wave station?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		Try 1200 on the dial from San Antonio.
		It just goes firing down there.
unidentified		Okay, 1,200 on the dial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Give that a try.
		Okay, the reason I'm calling you, I'm captain of a seismic survey vessel.
		We've been doing some seismic work off the east coast of Trinidad for the Trinidad oil monopoly.
		It's called PetroTrin.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		And there's a consortium of oil companies that that fund this.
		The vessel is American-owned.
		I'm not going to mention the name of the company.
		The seismic team, oddly enough, from your last call, Is Norwegian, that is the people who run the computers and the actual seismic survey.
		So we were, this occurred on the 28th of December at about 17.30 local time in Trinidad.
		We were doing a transect heading essentially west, going back toward the island of Trinidad, about 30 miles offshore.
		The water depth was about 120 to 130 meters at that point.
		We tow an array the furthest from the vessel is three and a half miles behind us.
		There's an array of seven objects, four of which are the transponders that send the signal.
		Those are operated by compressed air, and then there's three that are the receivers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		what is the object of these?
unidentified		They used to use explosives in the old days.
unidentified		Now we use compressed air.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		It sends a shock wave down, and that is then reflected from the subsurface strata back up to the receivers, and then that signal comes up the wire to the computers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're able to map it, I see.
unidentified		And they get a picture, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, we don't have a lot of time here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what did you find?
unidentified		Yeah, okay.
		Well, just forward of that, about a mile forward of that, we tow a thermistor V-fin, which takes a continuous reading of salinity, temperature, and depth so that the computers can make sure that the sonic signal is accurate.
		And forward of that, we have a side-scan sonar which takes a side picture of the, so that you get a contour of the bottom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've got about 30 seconds.
unidentified		Right, okay, so we're towing this, and the thermistra V alarm went off, and the thermistrovin came flipping up to the surface.
unidentified		So the scientists came running up from the computer room, and about that time, the array went over this spot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, listen to me.
		Listen to me.
		Can you hold through the news?
		That's all I can do.
		I've got news.
		I've got to go to it.
		I want to hear the rest of the story.
unidentified		I understand.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I want to hear the rest of the story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you hold?
unidentified		Sure.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, stand by.
		You won't hear anything.
		Don't let it worry you.
		We'll be back to you.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell, Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from January
		19, 1996.
		Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is, and this is either Friday night, Saturday morning, or Sunday night, Monday morning, depending on when you're hearing it.
		I'm Art Bell.
		The show is Coast to Coast AM.
		Lots to talk about.
		We've had for the last hour the international line open.
		And here are my plans for this hour.
		We're going to finish a call we've got right now from the captain of a boat.
		And then we're going to open the international line for the balance of the hour.
		And then we're going to open the alien line at 2 a.m.
		Pacific.
		Somebody called in vague.
		All right, now back to you, Captain.
		You're on a ship again located where?
unidentified		In Trinidad.
unidentified		Well, off the east coast of Trinidad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		East coast of Trinidad.
		And you were dragging these devices behind you, measuring things.
		And when we left off, something you said popped up, and I didn't get what that was.
unidentified		Yeah, it's called a Thermistr V-Fin.
		It looks like it's a big fiberglass thing about eight feet wide.
		It looks kind of like a big yellow fiberglass kite.
		And it flies under the water, taking a continuous measuring of salinity, temperature, and depth.
		And that information is sent up to calibrate the computer so that the sound signal that we send down sends up accurate information.
		Anyway, this thing came flipping up to the surface with all kinds of alarms going off.
		And everybody ran up on the bridge.
		I happened to be on watch at this time.
		I just relieved the mate.
		And it was just getting dark.
		The sun had set, and it was starting to get dark.
		So we were moving at about three and a half knots doing all this stuff.
		And about the time that the array of transponders, I should say, passed over the place where the thermistor had come up, the whole sea lit up back there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		You know, like a bright white light shining in the sea.
		So there was some cloud cover at the time, and there were like beams, almost like you would think a searchlight was shining up out of the sea, because you could see it reflected on the clouds.
		So I looked in the radar, and I was monitoring this place on the radar as we continued on, because you can't turn or stop or anything when you're towing all this stuff.
		And meantime, they're trying to reel in the Sir Mr. V-Fin and get it back on board to see what happened.
		And a target appeared on the radar, which at that time was about four miles behind us, so about a mile behind the array we were towing.
		And it was a big target.
		It looked like almost the size of a supertanker would show up at that distance on our radar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And we continued our transect.
		We hauled in the Thermistr V-Fan, and it was mashed.
		It had hit something really solid.
		Now, the bottom there is pretty muddy, and the Thermistr V-Fan is anyway, you know, kept well off the bottom, so there's really no chance that it hit anything on the bottom.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you think you encountered?
unidentified		Well, that's a good question.
unidentified		About then, it occurred to somebody to look at the side-scan sonar trace.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		So they tracked it back to the time that, you know, just before the, because it would have passed over whatever it was first.
		You know, it's the first thing in our array.
		And it showed on our starboard side a large metallic object.
		Well, at least you can't, you can be sure it's metallic, but it was a strong echo.
		So, you know, it was either a rock or metallic, and there are no rocks there.
		And this thing, this side-scan sonar throws a signal out sideways on both sides.
		It doesn't show anything directly underneath.
		And this object was separated from the seabed.
		So, you know, it could have been a submarine, okay.
		Maybe the Thermistrovin hit a submarine.
		But this thing that came up on our radar was really big.
		It was a lot bigger than any submarine that I've ever heard of.
		And I never heard of a submarine that had searchlights or lights or anything that shone up into the sky like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So something very, very large came up out of the sea.
unidentified		Yeah, I would, you know, it would be in the class of a VLCC, a very large crude carrier, that size of vessel, or that size of target.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, I've got to move on here, but I want to know, how did you lose it or how did it disappear?
unidentified		Well, the target remained on the radar for about 20 minutes as we were, you know, continuing to track west, and then it just faded out or disappeared.
		I don't know whether the thing submerged or went off somewhere, but in any case, we didn't pick it up on the radar.
		And we turn around and go back and we do a sort of zigzag transect all along that area.
		And we didn't encounter anything like that again.
		So I guess my question for anybody else that's listening is any other mariner or anyone encountered any similar experience where they've seen lights come up out of the sea like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We'll call it an unidentified submerged object.
unidentified		I guess so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		USO.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Captain, thank you.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You take care, my friend.
		Whoa, whoa, there's a story for you.
		Holy mackerel.
		And now to open up this hour of lunacy or not, I offer you the following.
		Now, I have been begged to open what I call the alien line, and so I hereby do so, but it is going to not be, it's going to be a two-purpose line.
		Listen to this facts.
		Art, I called about a week ago.
		I am the immortal that closed your show.
		I'd like to explain how I have stayed alive for such a long time and how your listeners can do it too.
		Quickly, I've been around because my soul, listen to this, my soul can inhabit other people's bodies.
		When I enter a body, it's by mutual agreement between me and the person.
		The two souls kind of bond.
		I found this out by accident.
		I'm not an expert.
		And I leave the body when it physically dies.
		Guess my soul is basically a composition of my living soul and a bunch of other souls that cooperate to animate different bodies.
unidentified		Mmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So this is just one of many, many, many similar type faxes that I have had from people who claim they are immortal.
		And I do not totally discount these people.
		So, therefore, I hereby open our immortal slash alien line.
		now when i say alien i mean not somebody up here from mexico taking american jobs or not an american down in mexico vacationing in spending money in a foreign country i mean somebody from another planet another solar system possibly one of the
		Their words, folks, not mine.
		And coupled with that, the announcement by NBC, quoting NASA sources, as saying later today the Galileo information will be released and that it may challenge all our concepts about how our system was formed.
		And you've got a good night to open the alien slash immortal line.
		So, if you are an alien from another dimension, another planet, or a less, more than, I guess I should say, more than mortal human being, as in immortal, one line is now reserved hereby for you.
		Now, I should tell you that casual, weird, or bizarre-sounding, fakey-sounding aliens get short-shift.
		Faky-sounding immortals get short-shift.
		Credible, articulate aliens and immortals get a longer shrift.
		So if that's you, I hereby open that line.
		Now, east of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Hello, Art.
		Gary, it's St. Joseph again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine, Gary.
unidentified		A couple of things.
		Oh, I want to been meaning to ask you a question.
		BBC, what frequency and what time?
		BBC?
		The BBC.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Many frequencies and many times, either day or night, you can always get the BBC one way or the other.
		But I'm sorry, I don't have a list in front of me.
		You can get a publication called Handbook to World Band Radio.
		I've got it in the other room.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it'll guide you right to the BBC.
unidentified		Okay, you know, we were talking yesterday about the weather patterns, and I started to theorize about that, and then we got off to another track.
		You know, years ago they talked about the Earth moving closer to the sun at the rate of approximately one inch a year.
		And here recently they talk about how the Earth is slowing in its speed around the orbit of, you know what I mean?
		Well, that means we're slowing down.
		We're spinning into the sun.
		and our greenhouse effect is getting worse, they say, and the weather patterns are getting more violent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're not going to exactly spin into the sun by next Saturday.
unidentified		Oh, no, but what I'm saying is, you know, this is all happening at a gradual rate.
		And keep it on, keep it on.
		Look at Venus.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		However, life, as we know it, is fragile, and it would not take, according to the scientists, very many degrees of change one way or the other.
unidentified		much at all to make it uh...
unidentified		Well, they're talking about the sperm counts going down.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen, I've got the New Yorker article on that, and it's absolutely true.
		And they say sperm counts may go down to zero in a generation, in one lifetime.
		Now, that's amazing.
		I mean, that's just such an incredible story.
		And why isn't it on the major networks?
unidentified		Well, they don't want us to know about that.
		They don't want to do anything.
		It's going to cause panic.
		And one other thing right quick before I go.
		You had yesterday a guy called from Japan, said it was 8.30 in the morning.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was that Japan?
		Not sure that was Japan.
		Well, yes.
unidentified		Well, by my calculations, that would have put him three hours east of me, somewhere in the western Atlantic Ocean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, thank you.
		I don't think that was Japan.
		I think that was Norway.
		I'm not sure.
		I can't remember.
		And you've got to remember it's like 15 hours or something.
		On my alien line, I guess it's alien, alien immortal line, you're on the air.
		Hello there.
		Are you an alien or an immortal?
unidentified		An alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From what star system do you emanate?
unidentified		Well, I'm from two galaxies away, from this system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Two galaxies away?
unidentified		Yes, and I've been stranded here since 1966, your time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Must have been an odd time to come here, the 60s.
		They were pretty freewheeling, so it must have been quite a culture shock from two galaxies.
		I'm kind of curious, why are you here?
		You're stranded, you say?
unidentified		I'm a scientist and what you would refer to as a doctor here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And a doctor?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you now have an opportunity to address, as you can be well aware, much of the world, actually, on this program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So what message do you have for us mere mortals and the immortals?
unidentified		Well, as soon as you stop experimenting on animals and start experimenting on humans, almost all your medical problems will be cured.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Well, that's correct, yes.
		You're wasting your time with the animals.
		I mean, the animals are virtually not really like the humans.
		In some ways, they're similarities, but in other ways, it's a waste of time.
		And you've actually gone backwards what you call in years, several hundred years.
		I mean, you could have had a lot of things cured by now if you would have been experimenting on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In Earth years, how old are you?
unidentified		I would say that I'm about your age, about 50.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		50?
unidentified		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you, as we are, mortal?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will you die?
unidentified		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And with about the same lifespan?
unidentified		A little bit longer.
unidentified		Not much, but a little bit longer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A little bit longer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Coming from a couple of galaxies away, we would all be interested in how you manage that, considering that we feel we are limited by the speed of light.
unidentified		Well, we use what now I'm sure we've advanced as you have advanced, but we used electromagnetic craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had a feeling that was going to be your answer.
		All right, well, thank you very, very much.
		And his message seemed to have to do with animals.
		Very interesting.
		Thank you very much.
		All right, well, the alien and or immortal line remains open at area code 702-727-1222.
		And here we go again.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
		Hi.
		What have we got here, an immortal or an alien?
unidentified		An alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An alien.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And where are you from?
unidentified		What system am I from?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		I'm from the possibly the Zeta Reticula star system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, possibly?
		Now turn your radio off.
		Even aliens have to turn off their radio, please.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Zeta reticula.
		Why possibly from that?
		I mean, why are you not sure?
unidentified		I just have a really strong feeling that I'm a gr um I'm one of them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
		Yeah.
		So you just sort of you have sort of a feeling that you're an alien, but you're not sure.
unidentified		No, I'm not sure really, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well then I have to disqualify you immediately.
		People, people, only only people who are sure they're aliens should call.
		People People who only think they might be aliens shouldn't call.
		I mean, you know, if we're going to spend broadcast time here, it's got to be for the real thing.
		And it's not like you can maybe be from Zeta Reticuli.
		You've got to be from there.
		You know, or it's not worth spending time on.
		On my alien line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yeah, hi.
unidentified		Well, I'm an immortal, not an alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's fine.
		Well, no, it's a slash immortal line, and I'm glad to have an immortal finally.
		Would you care to tell us what region of the country you're in?
unidentified		Yes, I'm in California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		California.
		Immortal in California.
		There's living hell.
		How long have you been alive?
unidentified		Only 35 years so far.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Actual years.
unidentified		Yeah, Earth years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, you know, I hate to ask this, but I've got to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how can you know at 35 that you're immortal?
unidentified		Okay, well, there's certainly no certainty because my brain could be mashed tomorrow, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, aside from your being turned into mosh on the highway or something.
unidentified		Well, I'm signed up for chronic, so I will be frozen before the information goes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but that doesn't mean you're immortal because they don't know for sure, and there's freezer burn.
unidentified		No, they don't know for sure, but there's a technology progresses to the point where we will have medical technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, but you're disappointing me, because now you're hoping to be frozen, and that's all fine and well, but you're not obviously a certified immortal at 35.
unidentified		No, no.
unidentified		That's something you have to work up to.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Taking advantage of my line here, sir.
		All right, thank you very much for the call, but I'm rejecting you two.
		So, you know what's the matter with you people?
		35 years old?
		You can't say you're immortal at 35 years old.
		Just because you have plans to be frozen like a steak?
		That's, you know, that's a wish and a hope.
		And there's something about if wishes were fishes, we'd all be casting nets, right?
		So at 35, you're no immortal, sir.
		You're just sort of trying to get in on that line.
		Come on, I want genuine immortals.
		Genuine aliens, that's all I want on that line.
		I demand the real thing.
		Or at least it damn well better sound real.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		I told my back, I love you.
		You're doing my sweet, I'm there.
		You're so lonely.
		You've got the truth that I hide upon you.
		You're doing something, you're my girl.
		Give it all.
		Give back a call.
		Give it all.
		When your bill never called, you gotta hold it down.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a good night for Immortals.
		And I've got another one on the line, and I think I remembered this Immortal.
		You're on the air, sir.
		Hello.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Would you care to tell us roughly where you're calling from or not?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		The state of Nevada.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The state of Nevada?
		Yes.
		Here in the same state I'm in?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, sir.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you claim to be how old?
unidentified		1,000 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		1,000 years old.
		1,000 years old.
		So you've seen a lot?
unidentified		Quite a bit, actually.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, what I really want to know is, and I'm sure I asked you this before, but you're going to have to, I sound like Johnny Cochrane, refresh my memory.
		What is it that made you immortal?
		Do you know?
unidentified		It was being visited.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Visited?
unidentified		Visited, yes.
unidentified		By extraterrestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And why did this, is this an offer they made you, or did they strap you down like in a thing and stick a big needle in your ear?
unidentified		Nothing like that at all whatsoever.
unidentified		Actually visited and then taken and returned.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm asking is, was it voluntary, or did they just do this to you?
unidentified		It was a complete preset.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that means.
unidentified		if it's a preset assignment.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it was a volunteer.
unidentified		Pardon me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're a volunteer, in other words.
unidentified		Not a volunteer.
		It was preset.
		Predesigned and preset.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Predestined.
unidentified		Absolutely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		Souls do have presetness, a predestination.
		Absolutely.
		There's many souls that are upon this planet or personalities themselves with forces that are from the stars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I really want to know is, is it cool to be immortal or is it tiresome?
unidentified		It's not cool.
		it's not tiresome.
		It's very dangerous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Dangerous?
unidentified		Yes, it's very dangerous.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Many, many trials and many, many tribulations.
unidentified		There's much that anybody that's an immortal has to represent for humanity itself and the spirit of mankind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have an opportunity here to speak to the rest of mortal mankind.
unidentified		Thank you, sir.
		I appreciate that.
		If you would allow me, I have something to be able to prove and be able to help the people to get to them that will come to pass if you would allow me.
		Do it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		It has to do with HARP.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Project HARP, yes.
unidentified		Project HARP, yes.
		Sir, allow me when I say this, these two things, I'm going to get off the line very quickly.
		That's fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Say it.
unidentified		What the people are going to witness is the plague, the detrimental plague that takes place happens in southern New York.
		It comes from Manhattan Island.
		It will appear as a radiation cloud that is caused by HAARP itself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Can you give us any sort of dates when you feel this will occur?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is important, after all, timing.
unidentified		It will happen just before the Great Storm on the East Coast.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy mackerel.
unidentified		The Great Storm.
unidentified		So you will have the sign itself of an earthquake that follows a line from central United States coming up through Michigan right straight to Manhattan.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To Manhattan?
unidentified		Yes, the Great Storm comes after because of the radiation cloud.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's awful because there are radiation clouds?
unidentified		This is the bringing up a plague.
		Plague?
		A plague.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is sounding worse by the section.
unidentified		Well, everything has been worse up till now.
unidentified		We haven't seen nothing yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, you don't plan on going east, I take it?
unidentified		Well, I am from the north, sir.
unidentified		The far north.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would say stay right there.
		Thank you very much.
		There we have it, ladies and gentlemen, an immortal.
		East of the Rockies, you are on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		Hello, Arthur.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hi.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're listening, you know.
unidentified		I'm not an immortal, but I was married to one for a couple of years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, how do you know that?
unidentified		Well, when I was about 14, I had a dream, or I don't know whether it was a dream or what.
		My father always was a carny wannabe.
		So the carnival came to town, we always went.
		One day we went to this carnival, and there was this girl on this dais, kind of midway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She was on the what?
unidentified		On a dais, like about three feet off the ground.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, I see, okay.
unidentified		And not doing anything, but she had brilliant red shoes, brilliant red lipstick, long auburn hair, and a leather beret in her hair.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds good.
unidentified		All right.
		About 35 years later, I was in a discussion group in Phoenix, Arizona.
		It wasn't very productive, so I was just getting ready to leave.
		The doorbell rang.
		The hostess opened the door.
		There was the girl.
		The red shoes, the red lipstick, and the leather beret.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The whole thing, huh?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's only two years, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A couple years later?
unidentified		No, that's 35 years later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, 35 years later.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you be sure it was the same?
unidentified		Well, it looked exactly the same.
unidentified		So about I made a date with her, and about six weeks later, we were married.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fast, fast courtship.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So it didn't last all that long, and we got divorced.
		And 13 years later, I was working in Lofton, Nevada.
		You know where that is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I sure do, yes.
unidentified		And I was working security there at the Loser's Lounge.
		And comes this girl with her daughter.
		But at the time I was married to her, it was 11 years old.
		Now she's 24.
		She looks like her daughter's sister.
		She hadn't aged a day since the last time I saw her.
		Wow.
		She had an escort that was about 25 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How old are you now?
unidentified		I am 65 now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		65.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when you first met her?
unidentified		She said she was 41.
		She looked like she was 22.
		And she didn't look a day older the last time I saw her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder what number a husband you were.
unidentified		I have no idea.
unidentified		I think she told me number two, but I kind of doubt that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There may have been a couple of zeros after that.
unidentified		And I know you have an eye for a pretty woman.
unidentified		She is the most gorgeous woman I've ever met.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		That's a hell of a story.
		Now, now, do you think that was your daughter?
unidentified		no she worked there not not not not not the woman you married i'm saying you said you saw her later than with And the last time I saw her was 13 years later.
unidentified		Her daughter was 24.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, look, now, the obvious question is, I mean, at some point, you had to be curious and you had to ask her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you?
unidentified		Well, no, I never thought about it until you started talking about immortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, after all those years and she still looks the same, how could you not think about it?
unidentified		Well, the only time I thought about it, we would go to a carnival, you know, where they guessed your weight and your age.
		She would always mystify him with her age.
		And I'm a big man, and I always mystify him with my weight because they guess me 185, I'm 210.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, Sarah, I appreciate the call.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of an intriguing story.
unidentified		I don't know why, but I believe it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, there's something to this immortality business.
		I don't know what, but something to it.
		First, Noel, on our immortal slash alien line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, there.
unidentified		How you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm all right.
unidentified		Where do you think I am?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um, straining your voice.
unidentified		I'm not really.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what.
unidentified		I'm an alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an alien?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		You want to call me that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I'm all right.
		We'll see.
		Let's see, you earn the title.
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Why are you so curious about us?
unidentified		Well, I don't know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a natural kind of curiosity.
		I've always been curious about these sorts of things.
		It's my nature.
unidentified		We're demons, you know that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Demons?
unidentified		Yes, We have raided your planet for hundreds of years.
unidentified		Mean you're from the devil?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're saying?
unidentified		Perhaps.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, now, see, now you're sounding like the guy who might be from Zeta Reticuli.
		Either you are or you are not from the devil.
		You said.
unidentified		Have you seen the cattle mutilations?
unidentified		Have you seen the cattle?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've seen a lot of the photographs of them, yes.
unidentified		You have this technology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you a cattle mutilator?
unidentified		What do you think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think you are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound like a cattle mutilator to me.
unidentified		We're right outside your area, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It figures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So's everything else.
unidentified		Your geo doesn't look very good either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you think you scare me with that?
		You don't scare me with that.
		Everybody's outside my area.
		I've got things flying in the sky here that make you look like nothing.
unidentified		We could increase your efficiency on your geo.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You can increase the efficiency on my geo?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It already does 60 miles to the gallon.
		All you humans are.
		All right, thank you.
		I detect that if you were to continue with that, your voice would suddenly fail and your throat would constrict, and we'd have a medical emergency.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Oh, huh.
		Hello.
		Hi, Art.
		Hello.
		Sorry to bother you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sorry to bother me?
unidentified		Well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm a talk show host.
		I need calls.
		Why would you be bothering me to call me?
unidentified		I just What do you want to say about them?
unidentified		Um, they're fakes?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
unidentified		Well, my name is John.
		Okay.
		And I'm about 2,000 years old.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You mean you're the real thing and they're the fakes?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, John.
		You really ought to be on my immortal line, not on this line.
		But I'm intrigued.
		Well, 2,000 years.
		In other words, you were born about the time of Christ somewhere around there.
unidentified		Well, knew him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You knew Christ?
unidentified		Yeah, that's...
		Yeah, I'm kind of ashamed to be calling, as a matter of fact.
		Why?
		Well, I see, the thing is, is all about faith and love and I really, well, Well, you know, if somebody who actually knew him were to make himself known and were to call and were to...
		I mean, if I were to...
		You see what I'm saying?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Not fully.
		In other words, you said you saw Christ or knew Christ, you said.
		And if that is true, that would tend to affirm faith unless you're going to come here and you're trying to tell us that Christ was just another guy.
unidentified		No, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then what are you saying, then?
unidentified		What am I saying?
		I'm saying that if you knew who I was, and if you know who I am, then you would know that Christ was a real man who was the Son of God and who rose from the dead.
		yeah yeah yeah so so so anyway really i'm um i i By what means am I immortal?
		By the will of God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		By the will of God.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why has God chosen to make you immortal, do you think, while leaving the rest of us mortal?
unidentified		Well, because I asked him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You asked him?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Back then.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's, I suppose, a reasonable answer.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is it a burden to be immortal, or is it a blessing?
unidentified		It's a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know that.
unidentified		It is a blessing because I can do God's work.
unidentified		I can spread the word.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, what about this last guy with the voice it sounded like it was about to seize up who said that he was a devil?
unidentified		Oh, please.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Please what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you thought that was a big fake, but you're the real thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, we'll let the audience judge that.
		Thank you very much.
		Personally, I think that was a born-again Christian feeding us the normal line of all things that are paranormal are from the devil.
		That would have been my guess, but he didn't ask me.
		We'll be right back.
		And right now we'll go east of the Rockies.
		You're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi there, Art.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What are you sorry?
unidentified		Oh, well, I have my radio on.
unidentified		I was seeing you and the phone at the same time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That is worth an apology.
unidentified		I'm all turned down now.
		Good.
		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you?
unidentified		I am calling from Fremont, California.
		Okay.
		Name is Stephen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
unidentified		I hope I'm not one of the Stevens thought to be out coming again, everybody.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe you're not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you are, but certainly we couldn't expect you to admit it if you were, so what's the point of even asking, I guess?
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		Let's see.
		Well, boy, I have so much to tell you.
		One thing I wanted to ask you was what is the how do you get onto the IRC chat channel?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry you asked that.
		There is somebody will call and they will give you the address.
		I don't happen to have it handy.
		There is a chat channel ongoing on the internet when I'm on the air talking about my show, probably blasting me from here to kingdom come.
		Who knows?
unidentified		Okay, so you have to have the.
unidentified		Okay, I'm not equipped.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you don't have a computer?
unidentified		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, then you're out of luck anyway.
unidentified		I'm out of luck.
		Okay, all right.
		Oh, boy.
		I was the one that called before and I told you the story about the bird that laid the egg in my hand.
		Oh, yes.
		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a totally cool story.
unidentified		Yeah, it.
		I can't.
		Oh, I've I thought I had some other interesting stories, but.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're never going to top that one.
unidentified		Boy, I don't think so.
		I don't think so.
		But, you know, I'd like to...
		Are you playing truth or trash lately?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
unidentified		No, I played it last week.
		Oh, okay.
		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't do away with anything.
		Sometimes things go into hibernation for a while because I don't feel like doing them.
		And then all of a sudden somebody calls and says, oh, please do this.
		And I say, yeah, sounds like fun.
		So, you know, when the mood strikes.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, listen, I got to run.
unidentified		Okay.
		All right.
		I'll call you back another time then.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you very much.
		Take care.
		On my alien slash immortal line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Art.
		Hello.
		Yeah.
		I'm Mortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're immortal?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How long have you been alive?
unidentified		Well, I've been traveling here and there, bouncing back and forth for at least as long as time itself.
unidentified		I don't really recall the period before that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, that is very impressive indeed.
		Time itself, many of us want to know when time actually began.
		Hard question, huh?
unidentified		It's a hard question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you're the only one who'd be qualified to answer it.
unidentified		No, that's not true at all.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No?
unidentified		now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well then, Well, okay, then why can't you answer the question?
		In other words, your statement was I've been around since time began.
		That's long, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, but see, I don't really stay within the boundaries of this type.
		I travel to other boundaries of other types.
		Oh.
		So you really can't...
		There is no time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're confusing me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There is no time.
unidentified		Not as you look at it.
		Not to us.
		We are the entities that visit you.
		We're coming from the same place.
		Extraterrestrials is just a name that's been put on the latest formation of how certain entities among the creatures that dwell in the beyond, they've taken that form and it's been placed on them by humans.
		That's nothing new.
		And it's extraterrestrial.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Alright, alright.
		Well, extraterrestrial, terrestrial, timeless, this is your big opportunity to give a message to all of us who inhabit this planet, who are not immortal, haven't been here since time began.
		What do you want to say to everybody?
unidentified		I would have to say that humans need to look back towards the people that knew how to journey and to make allies in the beyond and had certain ways of dealing with the mysteries of what we call our world and other worlds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty eclectic as far as a message is concerned, but I guess it'll have to do.
		We're coming up on the news at the top of the hour.
		We will continue with this next hour.
		I am Ark Bell.
unidentified		You're listening to Ark Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 19, 1996.
		Music Music
		Oh, my God.
		Emotion.
		Feeling.
		Emotion.
		Oh, my God.
		You're listening to Art Bell somewhere in time.
		Tonight, featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Here I am.
		That music.
		You know what that is?
		Dreamland.
		I do it every week about this time to remind myself.
		Coming up this Sunday, all things being equal, Michelle Levine, author of the Alien Abduction Survival Guide.
		That sounds interesting.
		Michelle Levine, author of the Alien Abduction Survival Guide, coming up this Sunday on Dreamland, which airs 7 to 10 o'clock Pacific time.
		If your radio station does not yet carry it, call them and politely ask them to do so.
		They are welcome, of course, to time-shift it, as opposed to shape-shifting.
		They can record it and play it back at their leisure, and at least you get to hear it one way or the other.
		It is a fascinating program.
		On my alien immortal line, you're on the air.
		Would you be an alien or an immortal?
unidentified		Well, I have the unique distinction of being both immortal and alien.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		It's kind of an interesting scenario.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to know where to start.
unidentified		Well, okay, I'll start on the alien part is I have a very unearthly urge to call late night talk shows and explain my alien nature.
unidentified		And I'm immortal as far as I have an unending beyond beyond all time and space to continually, as most people in the human race is, to make up stories, and that's also an immortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, you are a congenital liar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's also a timeless, immortal congenital liar.
unidentified		And also alien, too, because it's not a new birth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You already blew it.
		You're gone.
		You've blown it, because if you are an admitted immortal congenital liar, then anything else you have to say is not worth listening to.
		And I might add that that applies to a number of mortals, which will go unnamed at this moment as well.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hi, Art.
unidentified		I'm not on your alien line.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's true.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not.
unidentified		But I am alienated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you're out of here.
		Look, the alien line is the alien line.
		The rest of the lines are the rest of the lines.
		You know what the alien line number is?
		Aliens got to follow the rules on this program just like earthlings.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Good morning, Arg.
		Good morning.
		Tim in Cajal Country.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I just wanted to check with you.
unidentified		Did you hear about the 5.8 earthquake off the coast of Peru?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When?
unidentified		This afternoon at, let's see.
unidentified		It was 10.4 degrees south and 78.8 degrees west, 35.7 kilometers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		5.8.
		Well, it's not in the predicted range of magnitude.
		Nevertheless.
unidentified		Nevertheless, it bears watching.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		I would say it sure does.
		That's not good.
unidentified		Quick question.
unidentified		Years ago, did you ever interview Vladimir Posner?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I wanted to.
unidentified		You wanted to, but you never did?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I never did.
		That was Ray.
		Ray Bream, I think, had a pretty good relationship with Mr. Posner, and interviewed him ongoing for a number of years, and I never did get the opportunity, but I would enjoy that.
unidentified		Well, I was traveling across country one evening about seven, eight years ago, and listening to a talk show, and there was a gentleman that was interviewing him, and I've only listened to you for about a year that I know of.
unidentified		But I thought maybe I hadn't seen anything.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, pretty good chance that was Ray Bream, and for a short period of time, I really don't know how long, Ray was syndicated from KABC.
		And then that ended.
		So I bet that's what you heard.
unidentified		Could have been.
unidentified		Well, I just thought, well, maybe I had stumbled across you earlier than a year ago, but I had just forgotten, and I remembered that interview.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been around for a while.
		I've been doing this for about almost 12 years, this show, this particular show, but not on all these stations.
		So anyway, I think it was Ray Bream, sir, and that would be my best guess for you.
		Thank you for the call.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hi.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		You're on the air.
		Turn your radio off.
unidentified		It's off now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		It's me, the wondering Jew.
		No, I'm just kidding.
		Hello?
		Yes.
		I had two things that had nothing to do with your show so far, other than...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do what you want.
unidentified		You're attracting some pretty unintelligent life forms, I'd say.
		But I had a rumor from, I'm in Alaska, I'm in Fairbanks, from people in the North Slope.
		And I had heard that they're using the HARP system to mess up the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We've heard the same thing.
unidentified		And that's why the matter is all messed up.
		Also, my other thing was a historical tip, that you being a Mason and all, I heard that the only two U.S. presidents that weren't Masons were Kennedy and Lincoln.
		Really?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then they were, of course, were shot.
		Correct.
		So then as a 99th degree Mason, I could safely become president.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, sir.
		I appreciate the call.
		I'm not sure on the life form scale where that call placed you.
		We'll let the audience be the judge of that.
		On my alien immortal line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Art Bell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		This is Matt Cohen from Eugene.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an immortal?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		No, I am married to, well, I don't know if you would call her an incarnate or a reincarnate or an immortal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, why are you unsure?
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, because I don't know where you would draw the line between immortal and reincarnate.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		The physical plane that we know of being a point at which you start.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, this is a person you're married to, right?
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How can you be sure it's not just a series of secret facelifts?
unidentified		Excuse me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I said, how can you be sure it's not just a series of secret facelifts?
unidentified		A facelift.
		Well, I'm talking about people that run into her that have some type of seemingly clairvoyant ability remark always.
		They always remark, you have a very old soul.
		Right.
		You know, I don't know either way, but she has special abilities, one of which is to tell, she can tell me when we're going to get money, an unusual large amount of money, her hands.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a very useful ability.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Well, unfortunately, it doesn't happen enough.
unidentified		And she also knows, I work as a machinist, and everything in a machine shop wants to cut you or kill you.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		And she'll be able to tell when I get hurt, if I get anything that's extremely painful, like large lacerations that require stitches.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		And she'll be able to tell.
unidentified		Saw marks.
unidentified		Before I ever call her and let her know, from the emergency room.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would be a lot more helpful if she could tell you beforehand so that you didn't have to go to the emergency room.
unidentified		Well, she does have some.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, that'd be a good practical application, you would think.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		Right, you know, and if she ever got it down to the point where she could tune it, I think she'd be able to do that.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		She does have bad feelings sometimes in vision.
unidentified		One time in particular, we were going to take a trip up to Portland to visit her grandparent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		She envisioned the car upside down on the side of the road and, you know, the children in the back seat dead and that kind of thing.
stan deyo ▲ ● ▼		So we didn't go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it didn't happen.
unidentified		Of course.
unidentified		You'd be dead, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you wouldn't be around to say, see?
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's true, and it reminds me, thank you very much, of the old story about the guy in the bar, and I'm sure you've heard this.
		True.
		And it reminds me of the bar.
		Talking to the other guy next to him, both of them drinking.
		One guy says, you know, the way to keep elephants away is to just snap your fingers like that.
		The other guy, about half croc, looks over him and says, come on.
		What a bunch.
		What a crock.
		the guys in their bond after a while he turns over the guy who do not You see any elephants?
		It's working.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Yes, this is Scott in KX Country.
		Hello.
		And I was calling about your book signing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you a little more tonight.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be at the Portland Convention Center.
		It's going to be, and I already gave the date.
		And I can't tell you yet the time, but Portland Convention Center is going to be the place.
unidentified		Okay, it just happens to be my birthday.
unidentified		And I was wondering, are you going to be selling books at the book signing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're yet deciding on that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		My wife is going to get me a book for my birthday, and I want to know if I should order it in advance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I think maybe what we're going to do is to pre-sell the books with a very special little secret mark on them and then allow people to bring those books, but whether they'll be sold on the spot or not is up in the air right now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So all of this is in the formulation stage, and we'll let you know.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I'm looking forward to meeting you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		That's the only book signing I'm ever going to do.
		It is, I can confirm for you now in Portland at the convention center.
		You notice, not a bookstore.
		Not going to do a bookstore.
		So Portland is going to be the city of choice.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		How do you do, Mr. Bill?
		I've got a question.
		Have you read the new astronomy magazine regarding Hailbop?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, I've not yet got a copy, but I've heard it's got a picture of Hailbop right on the front.
unidentified		Yeah, it's pretty weak.
unidentified		From what I was hearing, I think it was Hoagland was telling you about how many degrees he'd see it in the sky and whatnot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		They're saying this is going to be pretty much a fizzle.
unidentified		I mean, they're not saying it's going to be a fizzle, but compared to what I've heard, it's going to be pretty much a fizzle.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I don't think they know.
		That's what I think.
		Every time I hear about Hellbop, there's a new estimation about its size, a new estimation about how close it will pass to Earth or where it will cross Earth's path, whether it will be a big show or a fizzle.
		So I don't think they know.
		I mean, we're talking about people who don't even know whether beta-carotene is good for you or bad for you.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm glad I quit eating that stuff.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, how do they know about Hailbot?
unidentified		Come on.
unidentified		Do you know who Duncan Steele is?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a familiar name.
unidentified		Yeah, he, geez, you should have him.
		He'd be an excellent guest.
		He's the world's authority on asteroids and comets and their collisions with Earth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a way to get a hold of them?
unidentified		No, I'm sorry.
		I bought his book, though.
		Hoagman might set you up.
		Geez, Dale, any of your buddies out around there might know how to get a hold of him.
		All right, I'll pursue it.
		Got one more thing to say, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		According to Duncan's, oh, he's Aussie, by the way, so Dale can probably help you out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Another Aussie.
unidentified		Duncan wrote this book, I think it was 93, but it's got a 95 published date on it.
		It was plainly before Hailboff.
		But he's saying a doomsday scenario for the world would be if a supercomet, which is what they're pretty much classifying Hailboff as, would fly into our solar system, and what would happen there is eventually we would fly through some cometary debris.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And I don't know if you know a lot about cometary constituency, like I don't know really, but I'm learning.
		What it's called?
		It's a chondritic material that a comet will put out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's made up of many materials, is it not like a giant?
		Some think it's constituted with a rock center.
		Nobody knows for sure.
unidentified		Yeah, there's speculations.
		They're figuring it's sulfur and carbon and gases, you know, various components there.
		But they've had historic accounts where we have flown through the tail of like a dead comet, the debris in the sky, and it's killed tens of thousands of people and crushed villages in China.
		Just cataclysmic events that we're not real familiar with.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, wouldn't surprise me.
unidentified		But yeah, go ahead and pick up that book and try and get him on there if you can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll see what I can do.
unidentified		And, well, then keep up the good work.
unidentified		And I'm up here in Portland, and I'll be seeing you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friend.
		Yes, you may, indeed.
		Listen, coming up Monday night, Tuesday morning is a show you don't want to miss.
		I've booked Ken Goddard, who is the director of the National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Lab up in Oregon.
		The only government-sanctioned lab of its kind.
		It does a lot of secret work.
		And we're going to be talking about the Australian rabbit virus, viruses in general, as much as he can tell us.
		I'm told this lab is Incredible.
		Kind of like, you remember the book The Hot Zone, those of you who read The Hot Zone?
		I can't give away too much here, but I talked to somebody very close to me who had a tour of as much of the lab as they could with security show him.
		And let's put it this way, this person said he felt like he was taking a tour of the hot zone.
		Okay?
		So there'll be some things my guest will not be able to talk about.
		And I did tell him, he's a gregarious guy.
		He said, look, there's some stuff I just, it's classified.
		I can't talk about it.
		I said, well, when we get to that point in the interview, you just let me know.
		And that kind of speaks volumes by itself, doesn't it?
		When you can't talk about something.
		All right, back now to our international line, and here we go.
		You're on the air.
		Can you hear me?
unidentified		Yes, I can hear you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Where are you calling from, sir?
		You're calling from London, England.
		And how are you able to hear us in London?
unidentified		1,000?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		1,000?
		That would be K-O-M-O in Seattle.
		Oh, well, that's absolutely amazing.
unidentified		Now, you were talking about the virus down in Australia?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir, I was.
unidentified		We listened to that.
		And we had a virus back in 1954 where a French professor in France was experimenting with rabbits.
		And he put a virus into these rabbits.
		The farmers from England went over and got some of them, and they spread mixomatosis all over England.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
unidentified		At that.
unidentified		The thing is now, they would be immune to it if the rabbits had come back in their thousands again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And now, and in other words, they adjusted to the virus and they came back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know how you feel in England, but here, many of us feel that it's wrong to fool with Mother Nature.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Another thing I was going to tell you about was the sight boom in San Diego, we heard.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is rather funny.
		The hotels in London are parked right alongside London Airport.
		And when the Concorde takes off, most of the cars are fitted with alarm systems.
		And when the concord takes off, it sets all those alarms off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, actually, I...
unidentified		I have to rush out of the hotel to turn their car over.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And when it took off from Las Vegas, it also knocked a whole bunch of people right up against the fence.
		Listen, my friend, thank you, and thank you for your very sharp listening abilities.
		Take care.
		That's London, England.
		On our international line.
		Cool.
		You see, isn't this amazing?
		I always thought if I tried this, there would be a tremendous response.
		And frankly, it's much greater than I even thought.
		And on my Immortal Alien line, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wonderful female.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you an alien or an immortal?
unidentified		I am an immortal woman.
		Maybe you can help me actually figure it out.
		I will be 100 years old, 2002.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Boy, you sound great.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You sound great.
unidentified		I actually look like a 22-year-old female.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't suppose you look anything like Shannon Dougherty, huh?
unidentified		I don't, but she is a beautiful girl, isn't she?
		Oh, gosh.
		Maybe I'll tell you my story, and maybe you can help me figure it out.
		I was just a common actual prostitute in the 20s, and I was...
		Yes, as they call it, the roaring 20s.
		Wow.
		And I was doing an errand not too late at night for the madam of the house.
		And I was attacked and raped and killed.
		And I was left in an alley.
		And I know that I went on some sort of journey.
		I don't know if I can explain it.
		I went out of my body.
		I don't recall what happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you recall your death?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And I'd rather not think about it, to be perfectly honest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
unidentified		I got up and I had no wounds.
		I was covered in blood.
		And I just kind of wandered around the streets in days.
		I realized that something had happened and it was quite significant and I My earliest memory is just of being a child, of growing up.
		And I was raised in the middle of the day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Listen, listen, listen.
		I have a break coming.
		Can you afford to hold on?
unidentified		Yes, I can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you do have all the time in the world.
unidentified		I have plenty of money, actually.
		I'll tell you all about that also.
		Oh, cool.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, then you can definitely hold on.
		Stay right there.
		We'll be right back.
unidentified		You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time on Premier Radio Networks.
		Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from January 19th, 1996.
		Shadows faint in our faces.
		Dragon.
		With a romance in our head.
		Heaven's folding our head.
		Shadows just for us.
		Let's flip off to a sandwich, real kick up the little dog.
		Come on.
		cactus is all fresh tonight tonight Premier Radio Networks presents Art Bell Somewhere in Time.
		Tonight's program originally aired January 19th, 1996.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, she's gotten all the time in the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		probably as much money as the Fed.
unidentified		I want to love you, feel you, wrap myself around you.
unidentified		So I want to squeeze you, squeeze you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I take the opportunity to indulge myself a little bit.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		These, of course, are the Pointer Sisters, and I love them.
unidentified		I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it.
unidentified		I'm about to lose control, and I think I like it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like this radio program.
unidentified		Oh, my.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good to be here.
		The weird middle of the night.
		I'm Art Bell.
		Here we go.
		Okay, now you're back on the air again.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it sounds like a very, very interesting story.
unidentified		It is very interesting, and I'm still learning every day as my life goes on, yes.
		As I was saying, this was in Manhattan, this was in New York City, and after wandering around for half the night, I realized that I had some sort of purpose.
		I still don't know what it is.
		I went back to the brothel, the house where I worked, and I had had some money saved.
		And I took all the money that I had, and I went out, and I found a room for myself and just groomed myself.
		And I needed to acquire money, and the best way I knew how to do that was to get a wealthy gentleman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A sugar daddy.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		I've been married twice to two very wealthy men, older men.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Double sugar.
unidentified		Yes, and both have obviously died.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pat passed on.
unidentified		I've outlived them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Inherited their sugar.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Various bank accounts around the United States.
		But anyway.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One thing I'm curious about, and that is you married them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		At some point, didn't they notice that you didn't seem to be getting any older?
unidentified		Yes, they did.
		And it was harder to explain it to friends and business partners.
		And what I ended up doing was just wearing a scarf and sunglasses.
		And I guess the best explanation would be kind of pulled a Jackie Kennedy type of thing where I covered my face a lot.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any idea what made you immortal?
unidentified		I don't.
		That's the part that I want to, I'm trying to learn more about.
		As I said before, I went into some sort of journey.
		I know that my soul or whatever it was in me went on a personal journey of some sort, and I came back with a message of some sort.
		I really can't say, but I can tell you that there are other beings out there that are like myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm told that.
unidentified		And I certainly don't disqualify.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Have you met others?
unidentified		No, I haven't, but I know that there are beings out there that want to destroy us.
		And I have had some near fatal experiences with these beings, and I reluctantly lose.
		I don't want to tell you where I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, don't.
		That's fine.
		You don't have to.
		I am curious.
		You're not in prompt, are you?
unidentified		No.
		If I was prompt, I'd probably have to come out and visit you or something.
		No.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Can you be killed?
		Can you die?
unidentified		These beings have the power to destroy me.
		I know this.
		I don't really know how.
		It's somewhat of a mystery to me.
		I don't know why I've been made this way.
		I don't know why I was chosen.
		I use my wealth to educate myself.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, there is one other eternally, good word, important question to ask a person like yourself, and that is, is your status, in your opinion, a blessing or a curse?
unidentified		It is a bit of both.
		It's very lonely having the ones you love die on you.
		I loved both the men I married very much, and they both outlived me.
		And it was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, you outlived both of them.
unidentified		I'm sorry, yes.
		Excuse me.
		I outlived both of them, and it was very, very painful.
		But of course, it is eternal youth.
		You know, I look like a 22-year-old woman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Constantly.
		Great.
		That's about the right time to do it.
unidentified		And I'm quite attractive, so I say it's a plus on that hand.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Will you marry again?
unidentified		I don't, as far as the wealth, as far as my money is concerned, no.
		But if I it's it's hard to say.
		It's very painful to have to go through seeing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So now do you get it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you now to the point where you avoid relationships?
unidentified		Exactly.
		Really?
		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, that's very sad.
unidentified		It is very sad.
		I agree.
		But I don't, I don't know.
		It's very hard to see those people die.
		So I just try and avoid that.
		But it's very interesting to try and learn.
		I mean, the way things are revolving, the quickening, as you put it, I listen to your show quite often.
		It's so apparent.
		I don't know what's going to happen.
		I feel that I've been putting it in a little bit of a diet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would certainly be more apparent to you than it would to me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've had a short span to look at it.
unidentified		Yes, it's very apparent to me.
		And I feel that I've been put here for some reason to, I don't know to aid that or to stop it.
		I hope it's revealed to me.
		Whoever did this to me, I don't know if it's a God or what.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a first name you would like to give us?
unidentified		My first name is Gabriella.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Figures.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, sort of a mystical name.
unidentified		Yeah, it is.
		I like my name.
		But I was going to say I was planning on flying into Portland from where I am to see you, but I don't know if I'll do that since now I just broadcast it over you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm going to be watching for a 22-year-old now.
unidentified		Well, I'm sure you'll have plenty of 22-year-olds there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that's you'll probably pass and I'll meet you and I'll just never know.
unidentified		Yep, this is true.
		I may be there.
		But see, the ones, whoever these beings are that want to destroy others like us are, we can see each other.
		There's just something about the way we look to each other.
		When I see these people or whatever they are, I know instantly I know that I have to get away and they know that they have to come after me.
		So I don't know if I'll do that now, but all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, now you've cast out, so you can come to the book signing in Portland because they don't really know whether you're going to be there or not.
unidentified		How can I signal you?
		I can't, I have to be very discreet.
		There's no way I could tell you who I was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Except for now, we need a secret sign.
unidentified		My name.
unidentified		That will, maybe if you can remember that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll never forget it.
unidentified		Okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, my dear.
unidentified		All right.
		Bye-bye.
		Bye.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Live long and prosper, as they say.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, Ort.
		Hi.
		This is Scott in San Jose.
		I'm listening to KSFO, where right is all the way to the left.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I'll tell you something about KSFO.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The ratings are out?
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And we went from like about a number, I'm talking about my time slot now.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		From like about a number 13 ranked to like tied for number two in a book, in a ratings book, sir.
unidentified		That's three months?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that cool or is that cool?
unidentified		You're doing something right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm doing something anyway.
unidentified		Remember, I asked you about one of your pieces of buffer music a couple of times, and we weren't quite able to identify it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I think that it's Classical Gas by 96.
unidentified		Can I play about 10 seconds of it?
		Go ahead.
		All right, hold on.
		Let me just get it on here.
		My neighbors are going to kill me, but whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, that's all right.
		That's just bow.
		My affiliate, I guess that's okay.
unidentified		Oh.
		Oh.
		Did you clearly identify that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, sure.
		That's Nyman.
		His name is Nyman, and yeah, that's it.
		That's it, right?
unidentified		Yeah, how do you spell that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		N-Y-M-A-N, and I'm trying to think of his first name now, and I'm sorry I can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, that's the piece.
unidentified		Is that the composer?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		His last name is Nyman.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		N-Y-M-A-N.
unidentified		You know the name of the teeth?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, not this instant, but now that we've identified it, I guarantee you we'll nail it down.
unidentified		And it's available on CD, you think?
		Yes.
		Oh, great.
		Okay, but one more thing.
		Why do you like Shannon Doherty so much?
		Or just her face or what?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's her face, actually.
		I mean, the rest of her is okay, too, but it is her face.
		She has, despite her reputation as a bad girl, she's not a bad girl.
		She has the most innocent, beautiful, cute face that I've ever seen in my whole life.
unidentified		She's up there, yeah.
unidentified		Also, she's a Republican.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She sure is.
		She's a dedicated Republican.
		So that even adds to it.
unidentified		Definitely.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call, sir.
unidentified		73.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's a ham.
		He's a ham.
		Wild card line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Ark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		This is Mike in Portola, California.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mike.
unidentified		And I'm listening to you on a station in Reno.
unidentified		I think it's 780 or 780.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		K-O-H.
		Reno.
		Yeah, yes.
unidentified		I just wanted to say I think the only way that mankind is going to be able to control its population is by introducing a lethal disease.
unidentified		I think that's the only answer for controlling this just explosion of people all over the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, you figure somewhere in the deep, deprived 20 floors below the UN, there's a gigantic mahogany desk, and around it there are them.
unidentified		Well, probably not even UN.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, a private company with the ability to vials in it, and they're sitting around making executive decisions, and who knows?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		It could happen.
unidentified		It probably might have already happened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was about to say.
		Who knows?
		It may have already happened, and that virus that's out there that has been released, it may be simply a matter of time before the mutation occurs that will produce the effect that you just talked about.
unidentified		Well, it could happen.
unidentified		I think it's the only way that Now, here's a more important question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's say you're on that.
		You're the guy who's got to make the decision.
		The scientists are sitting there advising you, and they're saying, look, things are spinning out of control.
		The environment will not very much longer support human life.
		And if we do not do something, all life will be lost.
		Do you wish to now release the organism?
unidentified		Well, I would say it's either going to be that Earth is just going to reach its carrying capacity for mankind.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		I'm not asking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		You're avoiding my question.
		You are the dude.
unidentified		It's on me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's on you.
		Let it go.
		Set it loose.
		Set it loose.
		Mass death.
unidentified		Let it go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		well i appreciate the call and uh...
		all i guess i can say is aren't we all glad he's not sitting there And on that note, to our alien line, I think we've got an alien here.
unidentified		Hello.
unidentified		Hello?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you are an alien, eh?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
		I am from star system 09.02, universe 98, galaxy 7.
		I'm commander of Exhibition 3.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know where that is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're a commander?
unidentified		Yes, of Exhibition 3 Operation Lifesaber.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sounds a little like apocalypse now if we don't do something, eh?
unidentified		Well, when we first arrived here, we got hit by lightning, and we crashed in a place called Roswell.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ah, well, there's a big debate, and maybe you can settle that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Some say Roswell, some say Socorro, and you're telling us, in fact, it was Roswell.
unidentified		Well, our ship crashed in Roswell.
unidentified		The other one crashed in Socorro.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And then the story goes on that you had these little boxes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, do you have six fingers and six toes?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do?
unidentified		Yep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you manage?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, don't people notice that?
unidentified		No, I can tuck one under and like in my gloves.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		So I have to wear gloves wherever I go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would work.
		And, of course, your shoes might have to be a little larger, wider, that is.
		But otherwise.
unidentified		That's a special order, my shoes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		And so you sound young.
		I mean, the crash, of course, was back in the 40s.
unidentified		Well, I had to alter my voice to sound more like human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would make sense.
		Well, okay, so you implied that something is coming up for Earth that we've got to try to avoid.
		Are you going to help us avoid?
unidentified		No, negative.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to help us?
unidentified		No, it's kind of grim.
		Grim.
		We're here to extract blood plasma because we use that to bite.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You use blood for energy?
unidentified		Well, that's what we survive on, by inhaling the blood plasma.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sucks.
unidentified		So we need that, because we don't have a diet.
		We don't eat.
		We simply survive by inhaling the blood plasma that's in our atmosphere that has slowly depleted over the years, much like your ozone there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, we're nothing but a bunch of atmospheric refreshers to you.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		That's quite well.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Disgusting.
		That's really disgusting, you know.
		Can you imagine that we would think of that as disgusting?
unidentified		Yes, but for us it's rather blood?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, does it have to be human, or will animal blood...
unidentified		Only cattle, because the blood plasma is very similar to human.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So in other words, that answers the mutilation question.
unidentified		Oh, well, I guess it would.
unidentified		I never thought of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean you never thought of it?
unidentified		Well, I never thought of it that way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, aren't you part of the people that are doing it?
unidentified		Yes, but there are other species also that need that too.
unidentified		We're not the only ones that...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This is really the worst yet.
unidentified		And one time, you guys, it was even caught on a video of a space shuttle, one of our missiles.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You were referring to STS-48?
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was one of yours.
unidentified		Yes.
		You were referring to STS-48.
		But we missed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was one of yours, didn't we?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's.
unidentified		We're doing the best we can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Sounds like it.
		Well, look, I guess I appreciate your call.
		It's a hell of a way to start the weekend.
		Thank you very much.
		I guess I appreciate your call.
unidentified		So...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're nothing but a bunch of atmospheric replenishers, ultimately.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Art, I just need your fax number.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What will you do with it?
unidentified		I've got something I want to fax you on Dreamland on Sunday.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		It's no more than three pages.
		That's the maximum.
unidentified		All right, it's only two, so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Area code 702-727-8499.
		Thank you.
unidentified		Have a good weekend.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yep, you too.
		And my internet address is artbell at aol.com.
		No spaces in there, folks.
		Art, A-R-T, B-E-L-L at A-O-L.com.
		Wildcard line, you're on the air.
		Well, you would have been, but you have a bad phone.
		First time caller line, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi, is this the Immortal line?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
		Bad me, immortal.
		Yes, you're an immortal?
unidentified		Yes, I am, as a matter of fact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And for how long have you been with us?
unidentified		I've only been around for about 35 years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you're like the other guy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How do you know you're immortal?
unidentified		Well, I'll tell you, Art.
		When I was two or three years old, there's a couple of reasons actually that I know.
		I've come across a few people who've been able to see the auras around people and what they look like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And when I was about two or three years old, I saw a very, very old gentleman who called me over to him.
		I was at a park with my mom.
		And he told me that I was immortal.
		And I asked my mom what that meant.
		And she told me that, well, it means you're not going to die.
		And I said, well, she said, well, why?
		Where did you do that?
		And I pointed to the guy and I said, well, he told me that I was.
		So she went over and talked to him.
		And I don't know exactly what she said to him or anything, but I'm sure he's long gone.
		And there was another time I was walking around in a mall, and there was a girl there that obviously had the same condition that she could see auras.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And out of the blue, she just blurted out, hey, that guy's immortal, and she was pointing right at me.
unidentified		And I didn't even know who this was.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A mall immortal.
unidentified		Well, that's just where that happened, Dart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, have you ceased aging?
unidentified		Well, actually, I've asked people in the past few years how old I look when they ask how old I am, and they say, well, you look about 28, 29.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but how can you be sure that you won't get to be like 40 and speedrun?
unidentified		I expect to be around a long time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The old picture of Dorian Gray, you know.
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		I believe I have a mission, and I believe I know what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And?
unidentified		And I can't tell you what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
unidentified		But I can tell you this.
unidentified		Remember this phone call, because in a few years, My mission will begin, and everyone will know who I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that will be ominous sounding to the religious people out there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We will remember your call, though, sir.
unidentified		I will say my name is Don.
		That's not my name.
		That's not the name I'll use.
		All right.
		But.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, listen, we got to go.
		All righty, we are limited in our time here, I'm sorry to say.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air without a lot of time.
unidentified		Hallelujah.
		This is Mike in Madison.
		Last chance to say something.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Mike.
unidentified		Mr. Bell, why don't you seek out, and maybe I'll help you if you need help on this, a decent climatologist who can really enlighten us as to what's really going on with the weather.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mike, if you can help, you know I'll do it.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Well, I hear the music creeping in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, Mike from Madison, Wisconsin gets the honors this morning.
unidentified		To all the people who either love it or hate it, good night, America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well said, Michael, from the high deserts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Mark Bell.

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