Linda Moulton Howe and Art Bell explore a solar system object’s debated trajectory, with experts like Professors Marzen and Steele questioning its path past Jupiter. Callers describe eerie lights in Montana’s Glacier Park (1970s) and Kansas (1976), linked to B-52 experiments, while dogs reacted violently—two Labs clawing at walls before a massive round light appeared. Howe suggests non-humanoid "biological androids" or cloned entities behind UFO phenomena, citing Santilli autopsies revealing crystal-like structures in non-human specimens. The episode ties animal mutilations, crop circles, and precognitive claims to a broader pattern of unexplained intelligence, challenging conventional views on extraterrestrial life’s physical and behavioral nature. [Automatically generated summary]
And to some extent it hardly matters because it's going to be coming in a year and passing through this part of the solar system anyway, and then it's going to be gone for a long time.
But in terms of orbital calculations, they're still debating it all.
Well, because Jupiter, the Jupiter effect in this solar system, it can pull things in or have some other kinds of effect, and they have to get these things past Jupiter before they really, really can determine it finally.
I was actually, I don't know if this is having to do with the topic in question right now, but I was wanting to ask Linda if she has had any information about non-humanoid, but nonetheless physical non-earthly organisms.
Like, you know, in other words, like an alien animal or something like that.
And the only thing that really comes to mind are throughout the centuries, there have been these constant reports of things like the strange all-black dogs or all-black cats that people have seen either seemingly disappear in thin air or have been associated where there have been a lot of strange animal deaths.
These mysterious animals, are they something from another dimension?
Are they associated with the UFO phenomenon?
There seems to be some eyewitness links on the Bigfoot, for example, that the Bigfoot creature has been seen actually right next to the silver disc with blonde-haired humanoids.
There are several accounts like that seemingly linking the Bigfoot to this UFO phenomenon in a very physical way.
And the Bigfoot has also been very commonly described in the 1970s, especially in pastures and in fields where mutilated animals were found.
It doesn't mean that somebody saw a Bigfoot mutilate animals.
It means there's been an association.
And in some of the abduction literature, people caught up in the abduction syndrome have said that they have the impression that the Bigfoot primate type of creature that disappears in flashes of light is some kind of a biological android, like a robot, but certainly all biological that is doing work on this planet for something else of an advanced intelligence.
Well, I hope you will follow up on the Bigfoot samples.
And the reason I say that, Linda, is because a lot of times we get these very exciting reports about a sample or a photograph that is undeniable or something or another.
Yes, I'd like to tell her about this interesting thing that about three years ago, I guess it was, up in Montana, the northwestern side of Montana, up around Glacier Park, my nieces were driving home, and they saw out in the field around Kalispell area,
which is just outside of Glacier Park, a bright light, and the bright light moved in a westerly direction, and they heard this rumbling sound with it.
It was kind of like when you go down the road with the windows open.
Right.
And this bright light was sitting there, you know, just moving in a westerly direction.
And it just continued to move.
And people around that block saw this or heard the noise.
They didn't see the light, but they heard the noise in their house.
And my nieces went running in the house, you know, real fast.
They were just terrified.
And it took them about, oh, gosh, I don't know, three or four hours to calm down.
And my sister said that she said that the dogs were barking, and this weird sound was just really all over the house.
And then all of a sudden, a bright light left them alone.
Aren't animal reactions are so fascinating because in a lot of these cases around lights, sometimes dogs will go crazy.
There was a case in Colorado where the people on the inside of the house east of Colorado Springs were not aware of anything until two large Labrador dogs literally attacked the wall next to the door, left great big claw marks, were barking.
The people were totally disoriented about what could possibly be happening.
When they opened up the door, outside was this gigantic round light above their house.
Now, when people have aggressive animals like that, the larger majority seem to have animals that go the other way, that put their tails between their legs and cower, tower under furniture, tower under beds, just simply don't respond the way you would think.
Whenever there'd be a bang or a noise, this golden retriever of mine, which I very much loved, named Copper, would take off like a bandit and be centered in the bathtub, and you couldn't get that dog to move for a long time.
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I was talking to him this morning, and I wanted to ask you a question because you didn't want to give me an answer.
I wanted to know if, do you think Howard Stern's Miss America book should be translated into Spanish or where it loses its cultural impact and sort of linguistics?
It's hard to keep up with all correspondence, and I apologize, but I do my best.
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Well, I figured he was probably busy, overwhelmed or something.
But he sort of like gave me this power to see into the future.
I know it sounds crazy.
But he gave me this power to see, like, an hour or two into the future, and I witnessed this lady get up in the first row of the church, and she put on a pink raincoat and went outside, and it started to rain.
And right after church, the exact same thing that I saw happened.
And this was like a gray creature, and he had like yellow cat eyes.
Yeah, well, there have been stories of people being in church who say that they have seen either the kind of being you're describing, where they have seen tall beings with long hair, or they have seen beings with flowing robes.
Well, none of us really know, but there have been repeated patterns of stories like this, gentlemen's, as far as, you know, they seem incredible to people, even those that experience it, but they are reported many times.
My allusion was to the fact that abductees and so-called insiders in the government talk about the fact that the grays that interact with humans for the most part are not the primary intelligence, but that are in fact programmed biological androids made specifically to do work here, and the work can vary all over the place.
And that raises an even bigger question, what is the intelligence behind the gray phenomena on the Earth?
Well, if it is, let's just say for a second that that crystal was some kind of a power source for this biological android, and that the Centilli creatures are, in fact, cloned biological androids made to do a specific kind of work.
We don't know how far this goes in terms of all kinds of cloned beings to do work for something else that's very advanced.
Well, at least I'm trying to concentrate on physical, hard evidence.
And tonight we didn't even go into all the pathology and medical and hard physical facts that we're finding in crop circles and animal mutilations and soil and other things.
And on Dreamland over the next few months, that's what I will continue to try to concentrate on, the harder fact aspect.