Robert Morningsky, Hopi-Apache researcher, ties comet Hale-Bopp to ancient prophecies of the "Blue Star Kachina" and a coming "grand white brother," linking them to Sumerian/Babylonian terms like Nibiru. He suggests these beings may resemble humans, hinting at mankind’s possible descent from them, while dismissing mainstream success metrics as fleeting. Morningsky warns nuclear testing harms Earth’s balance, mirroring Hopi and Aboriginal beliefs about human suffering tied to planetary mistreatment, and emphasizes preparing for shifts—like pole reversals—by trusting intuition over dogma. His final Terra Papers work before retirement explores Hale-Bopp’s role in awakening humanity through symbols like crop circles and Santilli glyphs, blending indigenous wisdom with fringe theories. [Automatically generated summary]
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On a Sunday evening, it certainly is.
Good evening, everybody.
I'm Art Bell, and it's good to be back from the holidays, Dreamland-wise, back into live programs once again.
Let me tell you what's ahead.
On this evening, Linda Howe, of course, with her update from Philadelphia.
Linda Howe, our award-winning investigative journalist, looking in the crop circles, animal mutilations.
Not a project begun for that purpose, but one that sort of became that as she was drawn to it with the material she found.
Very interesting.
And now I like it, and she hates it when I say she's the world's expert on these things, but I think she is.
In the sense she knows more about them than anybody else.
Then a Native American, a Hobie Native American named Robert Morning Sky.
And this is a particularly interesting opportunity to interview Robert Morningsky because he is going to be retiring.
He's got probably about another 30 days, I'd say, on the lecture circuit.
And then it's over.
The public side of Robert Morning Sky is over.
So I feel honored to get the interview this evening.
I would like to welcome a brand new affiliate, number 161, and that would be KKBJAM in Bemidji.
That's Bemidji, I hope, Minnesota.
Welcome to the program, 1360 on the AM dial.
All the way to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and I hope, Linda Howell, Linda.
And it is January, and it is supposed to be cold and snowy here.
Well, in the past three weeks, more unusual animal deaths have been reported in several places, including Montana, Oregon, and the continuing mystery of the Puerto Rico creature known as the Chippacabras goat sucker.
Two days ago, there was another attack on goats near San Juan, and on Thursday, December 21st, near Guanica on the southwestern coast, a mechanic named Rosaldo Taladio Rosato was up for some reason at 3 o'clock in the morning washing his car.
He walked toward the patio of his home to shut off the water faucet where the hose was connected, and suddenly, without any warning, he was grabbed from behind.
When Rosato tried to fight off the intruder, he was shocked to see a black-haired animal about five feet tall that looked like a monkey or a gorilla.
The animal ran away, and Rosato drove to the Titan Kai Hospital in Yauco to have doctors examine and treat cuts on his stomach.
One of the attending doctors said that the cuts looked like they had been made with sharp fingernails.
So now there's confusion among authorities about this primate.
Is there a wild monkey on the loose on Puerto Rico for some reason that's attacking domestic animals, puncturing their necks, and sucking blood?
Or are there also other weird creatures, the ones described as having the large glowing red eyes in the chicken feet?
Or could the chupacabris be a variation on the infamous Bigfoot creature long associated in the United States with animal mutilation cases?
Right off, I can't say with certainty an answer to that question, but it's a good one, Art, and I will do some further research and see, because this Puerto Rico story continues, and I will be doing more interviews, as a matter of fact, this week, and it's becoming very germane to find out if, in fact, if there are any primates who have ever done anything like that.
So I will do some more research.
Very good.
And in another recent Puerto Rico attack, six sheep were found dead, and the owner said that rigor mortis never set in.
According to him, the animals never stiffened up after death, which is unusual but has been noted in some of the classic animal mutilations that I've researched in other parts of the world.
And similarly, another dead animal that did not seem to stiffen at all was a pregnant heifer discovered at the Tim Howard Ranch near Colameth Falls, Oregon on December 21st.
Mr. Howard has been ranching there for about 15 years and he has never seen a mutilated animal before.
This is Mr. Howard.
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She was laying on her right side.
Her tongue was cut off right at the gum line.
Her left eye was missing.
Her left ear was gone.
It was kind of cut around in a little bit of an oval shape and just took out like all to the bone.
And then we noticed that the tips were cut off and the back just below the tail was cut out in an oval shape, getting rid of the rectum and the female parts and and uh stuff like that.
Was there any fluid oozing from any of these cuts?
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No, none.
And there wasn't really, there was a little pool of blood inside the back of the cow, but not enough to really, I mean, it could have just been from a slice or something, you know, but there was no, hardly any blood at all.
And was that animal, did it have any temperature left in its skin?
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It was still fairly warm, and we were kind of trying to determine when it died, you know, so we checked around there and rig of mortis or nothing hadn't set in.
The animal was still a little warm and joints all moved and everything.
Again, almost as if exposed to some kind of teeth.
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Yeah, I would say so.
And it's like with the tongue yesterday, it was kind of, it was at the base of the teeth where it had been cut off, just like if you'd followed its mouth around and cut it off.
I asked Mr. Howard if he and his family had noticed any unusual lights or helicopter activity over his ranch, and he said that they weren't aware of any but would start looking more at the sky.
And two days after that interview, Picland began amazed at what he and his wife did see shortly after we first talked.
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Last night we got ready to go to bed.
It was probably, I don't know, a quarter to 11 or so.
And the dog was barking outside or something there.
She looked outside and for some reason she looked up north here and there was two or three just kind of flashing red lights.
Or I wouldn't say they were red, but they were kind of an amber color.
And then one of them was blank and then the other one was blank.
Well, we watched there a while and couldn't figure out what the hell would even be up there because it was, you know, it was quite a ways out.
And then a little bit off to the left, there was another one that was just a clear kind of a flashing light.
You know, it's pretty, it was an open sky.
I mean, it couldn't get no more open than that.
And then way off to the right, there was another kind of a, it was kind of a clear looking light that was kind of blinking.
Right, and it has come up occasionally in the past, but getting tissue, which this time around we've got, it will be very interesting to see if we can confirm the high heat at the incision lines and if Dr. Leavengood can find these same metabolism changes in some of the plants.
This was definitely fresh, but it was so cold.
And when the grass is starting to lose its metabolic weight anyway because of winter, we're not sure if we're going to be able to learn something from the grass, but we're sure going to try.
And we need to get to these animals when they are as fresh as possible.
And so I welcome reports from our Dreamland listeners.
Yes, and I just also wanted one other note that I'm interested in finding out if anybody has been seeing any unusual triangle-shaped objects in the sky or rectangle-shaped.
We've had about a half a dozen here in the Pennsylvania and New Jersey area just in the last four weeks.
What eyewitnesses are describing is very similar to the thousands of reports in Belgium about five years ago.
And I wonder if whatever this is is showing up anywhere else in the United States.
So the ways to contact me are by mail, Linda Howe at Post Office Box 538 in Huntingdon Valley, Pennsylvania, spelled H-U-N-T-I-N-G-E-S-N dog O-N Valley, T-A, zip code 19006.
My tax number is area code 215-491-9842.
My email is LMH333 at AOL.com.
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And that is 800-707-9993.
Again, that's 800-707-9993.
And Art, I would say 1996 is getting off to a hectic start.
But one way or the other, I would get into report because there is so much coming from so many directions, and I have a lot of different interesting stories lined up for the next few weeks.
Native American Robert Morning Sky from the Hopi Indian Nation.
And we will talk of many things.
So have a seat at the campfire.
How's that?
One of the best and shortest ways, I think, to introduce Robert Morningsky would be to read you what Duncan Rhodes said about him.
He said, one of the most remarkable people I have ever met is Robert Morningsky.
He has two signs.
On one, he is an accomplished American Indian dancer, an artist.
And on the other, he contains the ancient knowledge of generations of Hopi Indian elders.
He originally came to Australia to attend one of the festivals held every summer.
While there, he came across some of the more radical UFO information circulating about the country these days.
I say radical in the sense that Bill Cooper, John Lear, etc., are considered radical by Orthodox UFO researchers.
So, he found himself being asked about matters relating to aliens, UFOs, etc., during his talk circles in that area, bombarded with questions.
The thing I found most incredible about speaking with this full-blooded Indian medicine man is that he spoke in the presence of aliens in the USA as if they had been here all along.
What's more is that he's never read a UFO magazine, never been to a UFO conference, never heard of the main UFO lecturers, and yet he's saying the same things as many of them.
Let me begin by correcting a very common misconception, and I want to make sure that people understand that Duncan Rhodes has made an error in his quote, and several other people have in their comments about me.
I am Native American.
I am Hopi and Apache, full-blooded.
I am not, however, a medicine man, a shaman.
I am not an elder, never have claimed to be anything of that sort.
And I want to stress that I speak only for myself.
Perhaps the simplest explanation is to say that in the history of the relationship between the civilized world, in quotation marks, and the Native American, history has not been kind to Native Americans.
And I'm generalizing here, but as Native Americans, our upbringing revolves around star beings.
It revolves around descent from the stars.
I would go so far as to say that the Mahdi in New Zealand, the Aborigines in Australia have similar stories.
And our cosmogony, our belief system, our way of life revolves daily around the existence of star beings and those who have assisted us and been with us all this time.
The problem is that for some reason, and I don't know why, the civilized world, researchers, writers, people who I believe have good intention, when they hear or heard the stories 50 years ago, 100 years ago about star beings and that kind of phenomena, it was attributed to the smoking of some grass.
It was attributed to the myth and legends of a primitive peoples.
The arrogance of a civilized world that puts down what has been labeled a primitive world has become a bad habit.
One of the things that I found on this tour in the last 11 months is that while I'm not sure how to describe them other than the higher-ups, some of the researchers, some of the scientists, some of the establishment types, if I hate to use that 60s word, are reticent to acknowledge the existence of star beings.
Obviously, we've been suffering with the Roswell phenomena for 50 years now, and we're only now beginning to get evidence and are rewarded with another effort by the military and the government to say, no, that in fact it's not a new fantastic balloon, but it's some sort of a new, at that time, highly specialized disk.
So Native Americans have not had a good time, and I would count other primitive peoples in this comment, we've not had a good time in trying to tell our stories and our legends.
One of the things that I have tried to say so many, many times is that most of the reported crashes of disks that have occurred, particularly in the late 40s and early 50s, most of them occurred on or near Indian reservation land.
And we have always found it amazing that very well-meaning researchers, writers who go out and scour the countryside, somehow they have missed the point that Native Americans would rather live out under the night sky than under a roof.
That is part and parcel of our existence.
We have for hundreds, for Thousands of years lived in the outdoors.
As a child, I remember being taken out by my grandfather to go sit on a hillside to watch the light dance in the sky.
It is astounding that somehow the UFO research community, I mean, the very, very, the truth seekers, somehow that point has escaped them.
You're absolutely correct in what you were saying, because in the last 11 months, what we did discover is that, excuse the description, the average man, the average woman, those of us, and I include myself in that, who are not part of the in-the-know community or the power loop, that in fact we all really do have common desires, goals, and we are reaching for spirituality.
The problem is that so many other Native Americans that I am familiar with who have extended a hand end up getting exploited, end up getting used.
Their teachings are turned around for the wrong reasons.
I mean, one of the phenomena for Native Americans that I think best portrays this is the gambling casinos that are cropping up on reservations.
I speak again only for myself, and I'm sure I will get in trouble for it, but I believe that's probably one of the worst things that has happened to Native Americans.
In other words, in the coverage that I've seen, and it may well be just orchestrated coverage, they say that gambling has brought to reservations money, housing, an economy that simply did not exist previous to the gambling, very positively portrayed.
Yes, because though I agree that for the most part, it probably has put money into the economy at the reservation, but as I understand From other elders and from those that I have spoken to, the average reservation take, so to speak, is about 10% of the monies generated.
The bulk of the funds seems to be going towards the management companies, which are almost always not a reservation group or a company.
I think so because unfortunately, though, money is, and I hesitate to say a necessity, but it is something that is crucial to survival in the system that exists.
It also begins to pervert the values.
Why should a young Native American man or Native American woman on the reservation, why should they pursue becoming a singer, a dancer, an artisan, somebody who continues the tradition of weaving baskets or doing sand paintings when they can go to a local casino and become a cocktail waitress or a blackjack dealer and make infinitely more money?
And I can understand the survival of it.
It's just unfortunately my belief, again, only that it will pervert the traditional values.
Could it be so serious that do you suppose, Robert, eventually the Indian nations as we know them and the reservations as we know them will simply disappear.
There are many, many tribes on the eastern seaboard who are not familiar with their traditions, who don't know the old ways, who have lost their songs and dances.
They were incorporated into the American concept 200 years ago.
Here in the southwest, they are relatively intact because we have not had that much contact.
Arizona became a state only some 80 years ago in 1912.
So our values here are relatively intact.
But in the East Coast, there are tribes who have been swallowed up and who really don't have a sense of their Indianness.
I was just recently asked to go to Seattle to speak to some children on a reservation up there.
And in the Northwest, the same thing is occurring.
The values of being a warrior, the values of standing for something regardless of the odds against you, they're being lost to a regular paycheck, a fast car, and a CD player.
Well, the blue star kachina is one of the most fascinating of all the kachinas in the Hopi way of life.
A kachina has three forms.
It is the spirit of the things that are around us.
It is the spirit of the wind, the trees, the plants, the animals.
The kachina is also the dancer, a human being who dances, personifies, dresses, and becomes the spirit.
And then you have the third variation, which is the actual carving, a carving that represents in three-dimensional form the figure.
The Blue Star Kachina is perhaps one of the most mysterious.
There is not a great deal of information on the Blue Star Kachina.
Its name is Nangasoku.
It's sometimes called the Chasing Star or the Meteor Kachina, but one of the most dramatic aspects of the carving of the figure is that it has a four-pointed black star on its face.
The rest of the face is blue.
There is a long trailing headdress of feathers that go down its back and trail down onto the floor.
And it is said that this represents the long tail of the meteor, of the blue star.
A couple of amateur astronomers, one named Hale and one named Bop, and one, as a matter of fact, from Arizona, have discovered this thing out beyond the orbit of Jupiter called now Hale-Bop.
It's coming this way.
We'll miss Earth, they say, by 1 to 1.5 AU or astronomical units.
Is it possible, everybody wants to know, Mr. Morningstar, whether that might be Blue Kachina?
Well, I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that should the data that I have seen be accurate, that in fact it very likely is, and that, again, let us upset the apple cart on the reservation a little more and suggest that I believe that there are several Hobi prophecies that are being fulfilled by the appearance of this comet,
and that in the papers that I have recently released and will elaborate on in the last three appearances, the blue star kachina, Nangasuhu, is very likely the comet Hail Bop.
What is most curious, and sir, if you would allow me, you are so kind, Art, to allow me to have this last interview, a gift from me to you because I was going to save this for California.
But there is a Hopi prophecy tucked away.
It can be found.
It is in several books that are out there.
And the prophecy says that the blue star Kachina, Nangasuhu, does not appear individually.
It always appears in pairs.
There is another prophecy that says that in the time of the end of the world cycle, this last cycle, there is a grand white brother that will appear.
His name is Bahana or Pahana, depending on the accent of the individual.
Pahana, the great white brother, will appear at the end of the cycle.
Zacharias Sitchin is, I would consider, one of the most unrecognized scholars.
His work is absolutely fantastic.
I wish I'd have had it when I was in college years ago.
But the name which he assigns to the 12th planet, to the black rogue, is Nibiru.
What is most interesting about Nibiru, a Sumerian term, is that I suggest it's directly related to an ancient Egyptian word for the sun disk or the Aten, which in fact was called Nebheru.
Nebheru literally meant Lord of the Sun.
And then if we refer to one more ancient society in ancient Babylon, the guardian and protector of the skies of a city called Lagash was named Ningirsu.
And I am again going to suggest that Nibiru, Nebiru, Ningirsu, and the Hopi Nangasohu, the blue star Kachina, are all one and the same.
And that again, should the data of the Halebop comet be accurate, and at this point I'm relying on the experts, it has every appearance of being the visitor that we will see in early 97.
Hopi prophecy, however, if all of this is accurate, Hopi Prophecy suggests that approximately seven years later, we will be visited by its second older Big Brother.
The curious phenomena of Hale Bop, if the Hopi prophecies apply, I am going to suggest that there will be a blue face, a blue corona, a blue aura.
There will be some blue factor to the appearance of hail bop.
And Big Brother, which will appear in about seven years after 97, will probably have a white face.
And we are, I believe, already beginning to witness these changes.
I bow to the words of a gentleman who I have a tremendous amount of respect for who calls it the quickening.
And I believe that many, many things are going to be happening, not just the earth changes that everyone is talking about and making predictions about, but also changes in mankind itself.
There will be a speeding up of events and biological processes.
One of the things I've suggested this last year on the tour is that women will Find that their monthly cycles will shorten.
They're going to find that the pregnancy stages are going to quicken.
I am going to also suggest that we're going to find some anomalous changes in the actual birth of children.
We have already, for example, on the reservation begun to witness the birth of children with six fingers, with six toes.
These are not just a useless appendage, but a fully functioning, unrecognizable sixth finger.
All right, well, then we have to talk quickly about Roswell or Socorro, whichever it was, and the Santilli footage with the six digits, fingers and on the feet.
And again, there is, believe it or not, I suggest a link between the Halebop Comet, its return, the surfacing of the film of the six-fingered figure in the Santilli tape.
I just today received a fact from Mr. Hesseman and Mr. Santilli.
And there is most definitely a link between the birth of children, the six fingers and six toes, with the surfacing of the Santilli tape, which shows the six-fingered hands and the six-toed.
And I will also again refer back to the ancient societies back in Egypt and Samaria where the numbering system was based on 12 and not 10.
I can only suggest that's a very curious coincidence that a 12-numbered system was used by the ancients.
We have a 12-fingered being who was autopsied in that film that Mr. Santilli provided us.
And again, with the birth of six-fingered or 12-fingered, 12-toed children, and this is going to, I again suggest, is going to happen.
One of the most important aspects of what I have been trying to suggest all year on the tour, and we'll finish with, is I am trying to provide documentation, ancient sources, contemporary sources, and suggest to the world that the gods and devils of mankind have those that we spoke of in ancient legends and all the ancient civilizations spoke of,
that not only did they exist, and certainly Zacharias Titchin, and there is a new book out, Fingerprints of the Gods.
My apologies to the author.
I do not recall his name.
I was just gifted with a copy.
There are numerous authors who are writing about the ancient ones in the sky, star beings who have either interfered with or guided man, let the listener choose the word.
And should, for example, all of these authors, should the stories and the research and the material that they're providing be true, then the question that has to be asked is, where are they?
And I simply suggest to everyone that not only are the stories true and they were here, but they are still here now.
And if they are hiding, they are hiding in plain sight.
They are not little green men.
They are not these enormous-headed, big-eyed creatures with green, scaly skin.
If the ancient stories are true, if Zacharasichin and his material is accurate, and if what I am trying to portray is accurate, we are the descendants of these star beings.
And so all I can say is we don't see them because they look like us.
What bothers me, or affects me, or makes me think more than anything else that there is something to all this is not just my own observation as a talk show host of what I'm calling the quickening.
But I've interviewed Sitch and I've interviewed Gordon Michael.
I've interviewed actually just about all of the big prophets and soothsayers of our time.
And it's not any individual one of them that affects me, but it is collectively their message, which along with your message and all the rest of the others, almost all say the same thing.
They may come at it from different perspectives, one with visions, one with this or that, you with your ancient knowledge, or knowledge that is ancient, I suppose I should say.
All of it collectively points toward the same next few years.
So I guess I would ask you, is it possible, do you think we're all experiencing collective millennium madness, or is it really coming?
It's interesting to be on the circuit and to hear individuals who claim to be searching for the truth or looking for data.
And yet when we begin to tell the stories, I'm not sure why the reaction is, as this gentleman has said, but he's absolutely correct.
They just simply do not listen.
The wonder, however, of this last year for me has been that I have found that people at this time, and I'm not sure why, but they are listening.
I think we are bonded from long, long ago.
There is a difficulty when I speak with other elders because they are concerned that when I speak of these things that perhaps those who are not Indian will not understand.
But I have a problem with that.
I believe a warrior is someone who has a type of heart.
An Indian, a Native American, is someone who has a type of blood.
And so I really do believe in the warriorhood of mankind.
I really do believe that we can handle the quickening, the changes that are coming.
And I really believe that if the higher ups, if the powers that be would leave us alone, I don't believe we'd have half the problems that we have on this world today.
Many of the prophets that one might speak to would suggest that these coming changes that we all seem to know are coming can either be lessened or modified or negated altogether by human behavior.
I think that, again, at any given moment we have the opportunity to make a change both as an individual and as a whole.
The problem that I have is believing that we will be able to get together with a common direction.
Unfortunately, we have too many, again, powers that be from institutions that are oriented towards religion or education or economic sources, bankers, politicians.
The institutions are the ones that are really possibly past the point of no return.
Just before I pick up the first line, I've got a fax here from somebody who simply asks, one of the most important elements of your work, Mr. Skye's work, Morning Sky, is your translation or translations of Orion and Cirrus' words.
Please ask him about these words, the ones covered in your papers.
I have, in just the last few weeks, received from Michael Hesseman in the Skeet, Nevada, at a conference there a copy of the film that Ray Santilli released on the autopsy of the alien being.
I was caught by the hieroglyphs, the figures that appeared on the beam in the wreckage and debris segment.
As a Native American in my research, I've always been fascinated with petroglyphs and the stories that they tell.
And when I actually saw the first videotape, I was absolutely caught up in what they might represent.
They had a vague familiarity with it, but the video copy that I had originally received from a friend from the Fox Network production was not very clear.
Michael Hesseman's tape, however, and I have to thank him greatly for it, was much clearer and when I saw the film I used a VCR to create some stills and I immediately went to some alphabet charts that I have been constructing over the last 30 years since I began the linguistics breakdown of languages in college in the late 60s and I know that this sounds relatively
outrageous but by very carefully analyzing the possible path of the characters I was actually able to come up with a translation I submitted copies to a few key people and certainly you my friend were one of them and I am offering what is a suggested translation of what is on the I-beam I received a fatch today from Mr. Hessman and Mr. Santilli very pleased with the results they're sending
some additional footage and stills, which I have not seen.
The translation appears to be very much along the lines of what we might find on a marine poster, on a Navy ship somewhere, essentially, without revealing the exact information, because I want to reserve that for Los Angeles next week in my last appearance
there, essentially it says that the beings of this ship are ready, they're aware, and then it identifies them, in fact, as a female warrior.
The translation, the decipherment that we came up with after the study of the linguistics breakdown, in fact, is more of a semper fidelis, you know, marines ready and prepared, that kind of situation.
With all the billions of comets floating out there in the Oort cloud, at least that's what astronomers say, is that there's this big cloud of comets floating out there that periodically get nudged out, and they drift into the solar system.
What makes you guys think that this particular pair of comets that was recently discovered, as you say, is this Kachina?
Well, I am reliant upon the data and the information that is given to me by others, other researchers.
Again, I want to stress, I am not a physicist, an astronomer.
I am basically no one.
I am an average man.
I'm a dancer by profession.
I am simply addressing the Hopi prophecies and some ancient cultures and simply saying that should the data that is being provided be accurate, then in fact it does fulfill Hopi prophecy and many of the stories of ancient societies.
So the listener, or the person who just called in, my apologies to Kirk, I think it was, that should the data be incorrect, then in fact the prophecies and what I have spoken about would not be correct.
I am dependent upon scientists and astronomers and the data that they provide.
With a great deal of respect, and again to this gentleman, I did not hear his name, I absolutely respect his position and his words and what it is that he wishes to believe in.
I have no problem with that.
I can only hope that I am accorded and that you are accorded the same privileges.
The wonder of particularly this country is that it should be tolerant of all beliefs.
So I cannot begin to portray this gentleman's belief systems as inaccurate or wrong.
Our nation, constitutionally, absolutely respects all of these different belief systems and allows for them and protects them, as a matter of fact.
the individual religions don't nor do they have to and uh and so they they are very narrow and very structured and uh if you are not within those particular uh bounds uh you're not going to be respected and he did it politely yes absolutely and uh I've got to say that there are elders on the reservation that have scolded me in a much more colorful and dramatic fashion.
However, we deal with the cards that we are given.
We will survive.
It is one of those maxims that I think all primitives, the savage peoples of this world, I love the word savage, we adhere to is that regardless of the freeze, the heat, the drought, or the famine, that we will endure because we are not dependent on the life switch on the wall.
She is shivering, she is shaking, and I hope, as part of the answer to the lady just a moment ago, that we need to take care of Mother Earth, because in fact we are dependent on her.
The light switch is not anywhere near as crucial as the fresh air and the water.
We have a legend from long ago that says that the great spirit converted the most beautiful woman in the universe and he changed her into Mother Earth.
Her hair became the grass, her blood became the rivers, her bones became the very stones themselves.
And we are all descended and born of Mother Earth, and we need to take care of her as we take care of our own mothers, our own grandmothers, our daughters, and our wives.
And it's absolutely vital.
One of the answers to the previous question was, we have to be aware that Mother Earth is in pain.
I think one of the things that in my very, very brief encounters with you, sir, impresses me is that many times when you speak, the few times that I have heard you've been able to listen to when I was on the road, I think many of the comments that you make come from deep within.
I think many of your listeners, I think the reason that they're listening is because it strikes the chord deep within.
The answers are there, and we just need to recognize them in them.
But I absolutely agree with you.
There is the end of the world as we know it, meaning the systems, the institutions, and the ways in which we punish ourselves.
Those will change, but it is not the end of the world at all.
On the other hand, I'm sure a banker on Wall Street would think it is the end of the world.
You and I, I'm sure we'll go out and pow and we'll dance all through the night.
Perhaps it would be summed up as I summed it up once when we did a what-if, which of course everybody dragged out and changed as if to say that I said some comet was coming to hit Earth.
I didn't say that.
What I did say was that if a comet should be coming to hit Earth, I think that after, you know, considering it carefully, I would sit right here as long as I could and talk to you.
Welcome, Mr. It's good to talk to you again because I first met you several years ago when you did the tour in Melbourne, Australia with my friend Duncan Rhodes.
And I was just wondering, though, that if any of them are historical background with the Hopi or the Apache Indians, is any indications like with this change,
like what will come up as the moving into another dimensional area where the world and the people as it is now are just in a better space of the third dimensional realm that we understand space here, so people can keep working up their heaviness.
Let me try to very briefly and dangerously oversimplify.
Essentially, in the southwest, the belief is that death is a transition, that the end of this cycle is again transition.
I don't want to equate that with death, but that whatever it is that we are doing now, if you're a drummer, a dancer, a singer, an artist, a farmer, that that's what's going to happen in the next cycle.
Once again, here I am, Robert Morning Sky, Native American, native to the Hopi and Apache Indian Nations.
Back with this in a moment, a quick number fest for you.
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Now let me give my guests an opportunity quickly to plug.
What would you like to plug?
If you could plug something, you've got the Tara papers.
Well, thank you very much, sir, for the opportunity.
One, let me plug Art Bell and say that I'm very pleased to say that there are a few warriors on the quest for the truth, and I'm very happy to be able to know that Art Bell is going to continue with his quest.
I will, for, again, the rest of this year for me until February 1st, I have the Terra Papers, which is essentially the summation of the research on the history of mankind, the hidden history of mankind.
We are releasing next week in Los Angeles the report on Halebop and the Santilli glyph, the decipherment.
People who would be interested in reaching us in my retirement phase, I hope to be able, should the interest be there, to take people on vision quests and to take them on expeditions into the canyon lands to show them some of the data that we use to put out our books.
They can reach me at, I have a phone number, area code 602-996-6324.
And our fax number is area code 602-953-0129.
And I invite those people who live in Los Angeles.
My last appearance in Los Angeles areas next weekend.
In Seattle, I'll be there the last weekend in January.
And then my very, very final appearance, I intend to powwow and dance madly, will be in Austin, Texas the second weekend of February.
Well, I invite everybody to come out and dance with me, and hopefully we made some sense with the lectures and workshops, and we will toast our bell when we do this.
Again, I hate to speak for anyone other than myself, but I think if you look at friends, books, material that is out there, it should be pretty evident that we do have a different perception of what success is.
We don't measure it in terms of money, but in fact of moments of happiness and feeling proud.
I know that people don't understand it when one of the things that we teach in the warrior way is that we should be able to wake up every morning and say, it is a good day to die.
That does not in any way manifest a death wish.
What it says is that I have lived my life to its fullest.
I have said I love you to those that I care about.
I have done the best that I could and defended with honor the integrity of being a warrior.
And so the perception of success, I can confidently answer that yes, but again, I do not speak for anyone other than myself.
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Yeah, I understand.
The other one is, well, I have some friends that, like, they were white until fairly recently, and they've become like Farnite Indians.
Again, as I said earlier, you know, to be a warrior means that you have a type of heart.
To be a Native American means you have a type of blood.
Contrary to what some elders have argued with me about, I do believe that there are warriors who are out there who have the genetic makeup of what we consider to be a white man, a black man, and an Oriental man.
So they're going native.
Fantastic.
I will admit to a prejudice.
I hope they powwow and dance and wear a feather or two.
I think that on an unconscious level in this reality, there are many of us who are bringers of the light.
I think that much like the underground in Europe who is waiting for the signals on the BBC from the Allies, I think that there are some beings here who will recognize the signals, for example, be they Hail Bop, the alien autopsy film, a crop circle.
I believe that the signals are being sent and that some will awaken and that in fact the premise that this lady is suggesting is I would absolutely agree with and support.
You know, Art Bell continues to amaze me because he has anticipated one of the few people that I have met in my travels this year, and actually over the last couple, is one Busty Taylor, who is a photographer who worked with Colin Andrews.
I met Colin Andrews years ago in Australia.
And I know this is going to sound odd, but at the end of January, my appearance in Seattle, I have invited Busty Taylor, who will be flying in from England.
We will be presenting a two-day workshop, and we're going to compare the petroglyphs with crop circles, and we will compare them to the Santilli hieroglyphs on that alien autopsy tape.
So, Arch, you've done it again.
You've anticipated precisely what we want to do at the end of the month in Seattle.
So, should anyone be interested in a comparison of petroglyphs, crop circles, and the Santilli hieroglyphs, if they can at all do it, we will be there in Seattle at the end of January doing just that.
In response to the first question, I do believe in angels, but I don't believe in the concept that is generally portrayed now as a glowing being with a halo and wings.
I believe that there is a basis for this figure.
Again, in the tarot papers that we wrote, we present an explanation of what the angels really are.
So my answer, yes, I do, but not in the commonly accepted.
And by the way, for everybody out there, I have the most remarkable, remarkable photograph of what is clearly an angel that you've ever seen in your whole life.
And I want to make something very clear because I have received a couple of messages to the contrary.
We have a, I shouldn't say I, there is a fellow across town, retired FBI fellow, who has put up a bulletin board and is kindly carrying for us the files and photographs that we collect that are unusual that I would like to be able to share with all of you.
There is no charge to go on that bulletin board one time each day and download a photograph.
Now, I urge you, if you have a computer, to go and download a photograph called angel.gif.
That's angel.gif.
And you can do it at the bulletin board.
And I'll repeat this one more time, so I hope it's clear to all.
You absolutely can go on there, member or not, free of charge, one time per day.
If you want to upgrade your status from there, it's fine.
It'll cost you some bucks, a few bucks, not very many.
But one time per day, it is free.
F-R-E-E, free.
The number to call to get into the bulletin board is Area Code 702-727-1709.
702 Area Code 727-1709.
And we're going to be talking more about that photograph.
So if you can lay your hands on it, by all means, do so.
And our phone lines west of the Rockies, you're on the air.
I'm a Christian also, so I wanted to be respectful and say that I appreciate that you believe what you believe.
And I wanted to ask, the Bible does teach that there will come a time that there will be, for better lack of term, a one-world religion where everybody will become more spiritual but no apparent specific religion.
And that seems to be where we're coming to, and that's why so many Christians believe this is the end time.
And I wanted to ask if he believes that there is a possibility that he has been deceived, because there are so many people that believe different things.
Someone does have the truth, and obviously Christians believe they have the truth.
I would prefer to use the word sharing, where you and I share, where Todd shares, and equal responsibility in deciding the direction of the masses, I guess.
I have been to powwows where there are a thousand dancers on a football field, and that's probably the only time that I could say that there are too many of us just because I'm selfish enough to want to dance.
Are there too many of us on planet Earth?
Yes.
No, no, I don't think that there are too many of us.
Whatever numbers are appropriate for the time is what is occurring.
I'd like to ask Robert a question in regards to the does he believe that there were other beings living on other planets, the other planets like the Moon, Uranus, Pluto, so on and so forth.
KVEG 840 Radio in Las Vegas is now carrying Dreamland live.
And just to show you, they didn't tell us they were going to do it, but I notice these things.
So, KVEG 840, thank you.
Now, we're about to go back to Robert Morningsky, but I think he will enjoy the following facts.
I know I did.
It is from a man named Michael, and I can't, I guess, up in Oregon.
He says, Dear Art, your guest and discussion tonight are very interesting as usual.
What you said about how we'd react if we no longer had electricity reminded me of a pretty good story.
It goes like this.
A young bride was showing off her new home to her dear old grandmother.
Of course, this included her very modern kitchen that was filled with electronic appliances and gadgets, galore.
After the full tour was complete, grandma asks the young lady, if you had to give up all your modern appliances and conveniences except one, which one would it be?
So the granddaughter thought for some time, finally replied, well, I guess the one thing I just couldn't do without would have to be my refrigerator.
The grandmother smiled and said, honey, I'd pick running water anytime.
This is the Magic Christian calling from San Buenaventura, California.
Good trip, California.
Yes, Mr. Morningsky, I'd like to know if in the Hopi traditions or prophecies there is anything that would correspond to a prophecy made several places in the Christian New Testament about what we have come to know as the rapture, the sudden disappearance of a great deal of people, human bodies, off the face of the earth in one instance.
I am suggesting that, again, if the data is accurate, that this figure, this hail-bach comet that is going to be appearing in 97, is very likely the 12th planet Nibiru.
The Hobi prophecy that I am speaking of are about a figure called Bahana, the Great White Brother, which I think is a very loose translation.
But I am suggesting that there will be a brother to Hailbop, which will probably appear roughly seven years after.
Well, you know what's really strange about that is that Young believed that UFOs were manifested from man's belief in them.
And it's almost as if the I-beam would be like the structure of the female creativeness of the universe, and the warrior woman would be the collective unconscious.
I just personally don't have enough of the beam hieroglyphs to really be convinced of that, though I think it's certainly a plausible idea that you've presented.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
Hi.
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Hi.
Yeah, earlier you guys were both talking about Mother Earth, and I just have to say that it's my feeling, actually my opinion, that there is no Mother Earth, that there is just a planet which is a thing, and it is more or less a creation, but it should never be worshipped because we should worship the Creator, God, not the creation or the creation process.
Well, that's an awfully good answer, and I'm glad the question came up, and maybe it will prevent it from coming up again, but I wouldn't depend on it.
Robert, they're trying to catch you, and they're Christians, and it's all right.
It's just, I guess in a lot of ways, I tire of it.
I knew that you did not worship the earth, and thinking of the earth as a living thing is not the same as worshiping it as you would an idol, which is what he was suggesting in sort of a slightly flippant way, that you are idolizing a mere thing.
And I believe, I don't think anyone would have a problem understanding that we are changing the balance of Mother Earth, the natural growth and development.
We are destroying the bones and the essence of what goes on inside.
One of the things that the Hopi and the Aborigine in general accept is that as we treat our Mother Earth, so shall our mothers, our wives, and our daughters, so shall they manifest.
In other words, I believe that Mother Earth is suffering internally.
I am going to suggest that the women of our planet, our daughters, our wives, our mothers, are also going to suffer internally.
Women are going to start having reproductive problems because Mother Earth is having problems reproducing herself.
Those problems which we begin to see in Mother Earth, the breakdown of the inner core, the breakdown of the air and the very blood, the waters of Mother Earth, those breakdowns are going to be manifested in our women, and we're going to see more and more women having not only internal problems, but blood problems, reproduction problems, and bone problems.
One of the legends speaks of a Spider-Woman who has placed two twin grandsons, one at the North Pole, one at the South Pole, in the Northlands and in the Southlands.
And the legends, and there are numerous legends, do speak of the changing of positions of the two twins several times.
And I'm going to suggest that these legends that say the twins changed places in fact verifies and confirms the concept of a pole shift.
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I was just speaking myself.
I know from the Comanche legends that the sun at one time did come up in the west and sat in the east.
And there are several legends that do address, I think, that very, very same concept that there has been a changing of the north and south poles, that the directions were reversed at some point.