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Dreamland with Art Bell - Robert Morningsky - Terra Papers

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	Welcome to Dreamland, a program dedicated to an examination of areas in the human experience
	not easily nor neatly put in a box.
	Things seen at the edge of vision, awakening a part of the mind as yet not mapped.
	And yet things every bit as real as the air we breathe but don't see.
	This is Dreamland.
	On a Sunday evening it certainly is.
	Good evening, everybody.
	I'm Art Bell, and it's good to be back from the holidays, Dreamland-wise, back into live programs once again.
	Let me tell you what's ahead on this evening.
	Linda Howe, of course, with her update from Philadelphia.
	Linda Howe, our award-winning investigative journalist, looking into crop circles, animal mutilations.
	Not a project begun for that purpose, but one that Sort of became that as she was drawn to it with the material she found.
	Very interesting.
	And now, I like it and she hates it when I say she's the world's expert on these things, but I think she is.
	In a sense, she knows more about them than anybody else.
	Then, a Native American, a Hopi Native American, named Robert Morning Sky.
	And this is a particularly interesting opportunity to interview.
	Robert Morning Sky, because he is going to be retiring.
	He's got probably about another 30 days, I'd say, on the lecture circuit.
	And then it's over.
	The public side of Robert Morning Sky is over.
	So, I feel honored to get the interview this evening.
	I would like to welcome a brand new affiliate, number 161, and that would be KKBJAM in Bemidji, that's Bemidji, I hope, Minnesota.
	Welcome to the program, 1360 on the AM dial.
	All the way to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and I hope, Linda Howe, Linda!
	Yes, Art, I'm here, and I wish you a Happy New Year.
	Thank you.
	The storm has really been something.
	What is it like where you are?
	I guess it's a little heavier further north, but Philadelphia, that might be right.
	What's going on?
	Well, it's very odd, the wind patterns.
	Down at the airport, 26 inches at the airport.
	It's a record.
	And a friend of mine over near Atlantic City just called and said that he's looking at about 20 inches on his deck, and that's right near the ocean.
	I've got drifts that are up 4 to 5 feet on my deck, but the snow has stopped where I am.
	So it's very patchy, and then as you go up north, I guess New York and further, they're just really getting it badly.
	Well, so much for opening the government tomorrow.
	That's right, and it is January, and it is supposed to be cold and snowy here.
	Well, in the past three weeks, more unusual animal deaths have been reported in several places, including Montana, Oregon, and the continuing mystery of the Puerto Rico creature known as the Chupacabras goat sucker.
	Two days ago, there was another attack on goats near San Juan.
	And on Thursday, December 21st, near Guanica on the southwestern coast, a mechanic named Osvaldo Claudio Rosado was up for some reason at 3 o'clock in the morning washing his car.
	He walked toward the patio of his home to shut off the water faucet where the hose was connected.
	And suddenly, without any warning, he was grabbed from behind.
	When Rosato tried to fight off the intruder, he was shocked to see a black-haired animal about five feet tall that looked like a monkey or a gorilla.
	The animal ran away and Rosato drove to the Tinamatai Hospital in Yauko to have doctors examine and treat cuts on his stomach.
	One of the attending doctors said that the cuts looked like they had been made with sharp fingernails.
	So now there's confusion among authorities about this primate.
	Is there a wild monkey on the loose on Puerto Rico for some reason that's attacking domestic animals, puncturing their necks and sucking blood?
	Or are there also other weird creatures, the ones described as having the large, glowing red eyes and the chicken feet?
	Or could the chupacabras be a variation on the infamous Bigfoot creature long associated in the United States with animal mutilation cases?
	Linda, do you know offhand whether there are any animals that we are aware of in the mainstream scientific community that in effect are vampires, other than bats, perhaps?
	Right off, I can't say with certainty an answer to that question, but it's a good one, Art, and I will do some further research and see, because this Puerto Rico story continues, and I will be doing more interviews, as a matter of fact, this week, And it's becoming very germane to find out if, in fact, if there are any primates who have ever done anything like that.
	So I will do some more research.
	Very good.
	And in another recent Puerto Rico attack, six sheep were found dead and the owner said that rigor mortis never set in.
	According to him, the animals never stiffened up after death, which is unusual but has been noted in some of the classic animal mutilations that I've researched in other parts of the world.
	And similarly, another dead animal that did not seem to stiffen at all was a pregnant heifer discovered at the Tim Howard Ranch near Klamath Falls, Oregon on December 21st.
	Mr. Howard has been ranching there for about 15 years and he has never seen a mutilated animal before.
	This is Mr. Howard.
	She was laying on her right side.
	Her tongue was cut off right at the gum line.
	Her left eye was missing.
	Her left ear was gone.
	It was kind of cut around in a little bit of an oval shape and just took out like all to the bone.
	And then we noticed that the tits were cut off and the back just below the tail was cut out in an oval shape getting rid of the rectum and the female parts and stuff like that.
	Was there any fluid oozing from any of these cuts?
	No, none.
	And there wasn't really.
	There was a little pool of blood inside the back of the cow but not enough to really I mean, it could have just been from a slice or something, you know, but there was hardly any blood at all.
	All right.
	And was that animal, did it have any temperature left in its skin or hide?
	It was still fairly warm and we were kind of trying to determine when it died, you know, so we checked around there and the rigamortis or nothing hadn't set in.
	The animal was still a little warm and joints all moved and everything.
	The cow was bloated up though and she stunk.
	Now, as a rancher who has been around and raised cattle for a dozen or more years,
	what was your first reaction to the cuts themselves?
	Well, it wasn't ripped and torn, it was a fine cut.
	And it was, you know, usually when an animal gets a hold of it,
	they tear the hell out of things and it was nice, smooth cuts and no blood.
	There's usually blood everywhere when a predator gets done.
	Right.
	Now, what was the grounds like around the animal?
	Was it moist or dry?
	A little moist.
	We drove in there.
	It's fairly cold here right now.
	I think yesterday the top was like 42 or something.
	But there was still a little frost on the ground when we went in.
	Matter of fact, it was starting to cool off for the evening.
	And, uh, you could see our tire tracks when you went in, but you couldn't see nothing else around there.
	No other type of tracks.
	Uh, what about even the cow zone tracks?
	Was there anything visible around it?
	There was no track of any sort there.
	Uh, what did the Oregon State police say?
	Well, the first guy said he'd never seen anything like it.
	He, uh, you know, it was definitely something different than, uh, than he'd ever seen.
	I'll tell you something else that was odd, maybe, I don't know, when something like this happens you start thinking maybe more than you should, but the cow was laying on her tail, and that just doesn't happen.
	The cow was lying on its tail?
	Yeah.
	The tail was curled up underneath it and it was lying on it, and that's, you know, you just, a tail's kind of a balancing device for them things.
	And I don't know.
	It just seemed odd that it was.
	I've seen a lot of dead cows and I've never seen them laying on their tails.
	Almost as if the cow was set down in the air onto the ground at the rear and on the tail and then the rest of the body laid down.
	I could go for something like that.
	I could believe that.
	And another thing is there's no sign of any struggle around the cow.
	I mean, you know, cows don't die easy even if they're sick.
	They frost and kick around, but there's no sign of nothing with this one.
	It's just laying there with its head downhill, and that's not very, you know,
	to me that's not very likely either.
	Right. Now what about where the teeth were removed from the other bag?
	They were just, looks like they were pinched off or cut off or something like that,
	and all four of them have kind of a little black ring around them.
	Again, almost as if exposed to some kind of heat.
	Yeah, I would say so, and it's like with the tongue yesterday, it was kind of,
	it was at the base of the teeth where it had been cut off, just like if you'd followed its mouth around and cut it off.
	Huh.
	And it was dark colored.
	Um, do you find that the fact that the coyotes have not attacked this carcass is unusual?
	Yeah, I'd say there's something wrong with the carcass if the coyotes won't eat it.
	I asked Mr. Howard if he and his family had noticed any unusual lights or helicopter activity over his ranch, and he said that they weren't aware of any, but would start looking more at the sky, and two days after that interview, he called again, amazed at what he and his wife did see shortly after we first talked.
	Last night we got ready to go to bed, it was probably, I don't know, quarter to eleven or so.
	And she, the dog was barking outside or something there and she looked outside and for some reason she looked up north here and there was two or three just kind of flashing red lights.
	Or I wouldn't say they were red, but they were kind of an amber color.
	And then one of them was blank and then the other one was blank.
	Well, we watched there a while and couldn't figure out what the hell would even be up there.
	You know, it's quite a ways out.
	And then a little bit off to the left there was there was another one that was just a clear kind of a flashing light.
	You know, it's pretty in his open sky.
	I mean, it couldn't get no more open than that.
	And then way off to the right, there was another kind of a it was kind of a clear looking light that was kind of blinking.
	So there were at least four?
	Yeah, at least maybe five.
	And this is a part of the sky that at this time of year You know it, and have you ever seen lights like this there before?
	I've never seen lights up in there any time.
	And how long did you watch them blink?
	Probably ten minutes.
	Then what happened?
	They just stayed blinking there.
	We just watched and watched and watched.
	It all stayed the same.
	It did look like there was either another one in that pack that two was in, or one of them was moving up and down.
	But I mean, it was probably, it had to be probably 40, 50 miles away, probably.
	So, you went to bed while they were still out there blinking?
	Yeah.
	Um, and is this in anywhere the general direction of where you had the heifer mutilated?
	No, it was, no, uh-uh.
	It's, well, they were in a distance.
	The lights were in quite a distance.
	Mm-hmm.
	And, uh... And the heifer was how far from your house?
	Oh, probably a mile here.
	Okay.
	But where the lights were, as far as you're concerned, was so much further that... Oh, yeah.
	But what would be over there, 40 or 50 miles?
	Javelin farmland.
	Yeah, that's all this country is out here.
	Now, I've been working with an Oregon investigator, Roy Myers, who was able to get tissue and pasture grass samples from the Howard mutilation.
	And Dr. Levengood in Michigan and Dr. Altshuler are about ready to start work on those.
	So in a couple of weeks, I should have a report on Dreamland about what they found.
	All right.
	The interesting thing is, no rigor mortis.
	All right.
	If there is no rigor mortis, that means there has to be a basic, chemical, hopefully detectable change that has occurred in the samples.
	Right.
	And it has come up occasionally in the past.
	But getting tissue, which this time around we've got, it will be very interesting to see if we can confirm the high heat at the excision lines, and if Dr. Levengood can find these same metabolism changes in some of the plants.
	This was definitely fresh, but it was so cold, and when the grass is starting to lose its metabolic rate anyway because of winter, we're not sure if we're going to be able to learn something from the grass, but we're sure going to try.
	And we need to get to these animals when they are as fresh as possible, and so I welcome reports from our Dreamland listeners.
	And if they want to get a report to you or get your books or any of your materials, you're now going to tell us how to do that.
	Yes, and I just also wanted one other note that I'm interested in finding out if anybody has been seeing any unusual triangle-shaped objects in the sky.
	Or rectangle shaped.
	We've had about a half a dozen here in the Pennsylvania and New Jersey area just in the last four weeks.
	What eyewitnesses are describing is very similar to the thousands of reports in Belgium about five years ago.
	And I wonder if whatever this is is showing up anywhere else in the United States.
	So, the way to contact me are by mail, Linda Howe at post office box 538 in Huntingdon Valley, Pennsylvania, spelled H-U-N-T-I-N-G, D as in dog, O-N, Valley, T-A, zip code 19006.
	My fax number is area code 215-491-9842.
	My email is lmh333 at aol.com.
	And for information about my books and documentaries or to leave a brief message, please call my toll-free 800
	number.
	And that is 800-707-9999.
	Again, that's 800-707-9993.
	And Art, I would say 1996 is getting off to a hectic start.
	Oh, it's going to be an interesting year.
	I feel it, too.
	Very exciting.
	Yes, you can feel it.
	Linda, we'll look forward to hearing from you next week if, that is, your phone lines are up and your home is not buried.
	No offense, but it's about 60 degrees here.
	I would get in to report because there is so much coming from so many directions and
	I have a lot of different interesting stories lined up for the next few weeks.
	Well no offense but it's about 60 degrees here, better thee than me.
	Well at least we have gorgeous springs and summers.
	Yes, you do, and you can look forward to that.
	You think about that all tonight and tomorrow.
	Thank you, Linda.
	Good night.
	Thank you.
	Back in the middle of the horrendous storm, and it is a bad one now, smashing the Northeast.
	Dreamland, we'll be right back with Native American Robert Morningsky.
	It should be an interesting evening.
	Stay right there.
	From the Kingdom of Nine, you're hearing Greenland with Art Bell.
	To participate in the program, call...
	It is coming up in a moment, Native American... Native American Robert Morningsky from the Hopi Indian Nation.
	one eighty two point five first-time callers
	area code seven oh two seven two seven one two two two or the wildcard line at seven oh two
	seven two seven one two nine five this is the cbc
	radio net it is coming up in a moment native american
	uh... native american uh...
	robert morning sky will be in the initial
	and we will talk of many things so have a seat
	at the campfire Heh heh heh heh.
	How's that?
	One of the best and shortest ways, I think, to introduce Robert Morning Sky would be to read you what Duncan Rhodes said about him.
	He said, one of the most remarkable people I have ever met is Robert Morning Sky.
	He has two signs.
	On one, he is an accomplished American Indian dancer, an artist, And on the other, he contains the ancient knowledge of generations of Hopi Indian elders.
	He originally came to Australia to attend one of the festivals held every summer.
	While there, he came across some of the more radical UFO information circulating about the country these days.
	I say radical in the sense that Bill Cooper, John Lear, etc.
	are considered radical by orthodox UFO researchers.
	So, he found himself being asked Um, about matters relating to aliens, UFOs, etc., during his talk circles in that area, bombarded with questions.
	The thing I found most incredible about speaking with this full-blooded Indian medicine man is that he spoke in the presence of aliens in the USA as if they had been here all along.
	What's more is that he's never read a UFO magazine, never been to a UFO conference, Never heard of the main UFO lecturers, and yet he's saying the same things as many of them.
	What I can say is, he impressed me greatly.
	That's Duncan Rhodes.
	This is the end of Sunday.
	Let us go to Robert Morning Sky.
	Robert, where are you located?
	I'm in Phoenix this evening, sir.
	Phoenix, Arizona.
	Yes, sir.
	I guess you're on a lecture circuit, so you're flying around, huh?
	Yes, I am.
	Thank you.
	It's been quite a hectic year.
	I'm on the last leg, as you mentioned earlier, and I look forward to retiring.
	And so that will be the end of, generally, the public life of Robert Morningsky.
	Yes, I say that with a measure of sadness.
	I'm very proud of what we have done in the short year.
	I will honor a few engagements that take us beyond February 1st in the United States and then in Germany.
	But the pace has been horrendous.
	We did 45 lectures and workshops in 48 weeks.
	I have three more to go in the last four weeks.
	And the response, and I'm very, very pleased and very honored to have had the kind of response we've had from the general public.
	Duncan Rhodes in Australia, he's the publisher of Nexus Magazine, was extraordinarily kind to us when we were there a couple of years ago.
	I would like to count him as a friend.
	It was through his encouragement that we actually decided to speak out in the United States.
	So, come February 1st of 1996, with great pride and again a measure of sadness, I will retire.
	It is time.
	I have done everything that I could to fulfill a promise to my grandfather and
	The time has come to rest all right Then let me ask you this
	Why are there not more in your shadow? Why are there not more Hopi?
	Indians why are there not other Indian nations that speak out publicly?
	The way you do or that have people that speak out publicly I'm sure there are some, but frankly, I haven't heard of them.
	So, what's going on?
	Well, there are absolutely good reasons.
	Now, let me begin by correcting a very common misconception, and I want to make sure that people understand that.
	Duncan Rhodes has made an error in his quote, and several other people have in their comments about me.
	I am Native American.
	I am Hopi and Apache, full-blooded.
	I am not, however, a medicine man, a shaman.
	I am not an elder, never have claimed to be anything of that sort.
	And I want to stress that I speak only for myself.
	I do not speak for any nation.
	No, I understand that.
	I'm simply asking you why there aren't more Robert Morning Skies out there.
	Okay.
	Perhaps the simplest explanation is to say that in the history of the relationship between the civilized world, in quotation marks, and the Native American, history has not been kind to Native Americans.
	I'm generalizing here, but as Native Americans, our upbringing revolves around star beings.
	It revolves around descent from the stars.
	I would go so far as to say that the Maadi in New Zealand, the Aborigines in Australia have similar stories.
	And our cosmogony, our belief system, our way of life, Revolves daily around the existence of star beings and those who have assisted us and have been with us all this time.
	The problem is that for some reason, and I don't know why, the civilized world, researchers, writers, people who I believe have good intention, when they hear or heard the stories 50 years ago, 100 years ago about star beings and that kind of phenomena, It was attributed to the smoking of some grass.
	It was attributed to the myth and legends of a primitive people.
	The arrogance of a civilized world that puts down what has been labeled the primitive world has become a bad habit.
	One of the things that I found on this tour in the last 11 months is that while I'm not sure how to describe them other than the higher-ups, some of the researchers, some of the scientists, some of the establishment scientists, I hate to use that 60s word, are reticent to acknowledge the existence of star beings.
	Obviously, we've been suffering with the Roswell phenomena for 50 years now.
	And we're only now beginning to get evidence and are rewarded with another effort by the military and the government to say no, that in fact it's not a new fantastic balloon, but it's some sort of a new, at that time, highly specialized disc.
	So, Native Americans have not had a good time, and I would count other primitive peoples in this comment, we've not had a good time in trying to tell our stories and our legends.
	One of the things that I have tried to say so many, many times is that most of the reported crashes of disks that have occurred, particularly in the late 40s and early 50s, most of them occurred on or near Indian reservation land.
	And we have always found it amazing that very well-meaning researchers, writers who go out and scour the countryside, somehow they have missed the point that Native Americans would rather live out under the night sky than under a roof.
	That is part and parcel of our existence.
	We have, for hundreds, for thousands of years, lived in the outdoors.
	As a child I remember being taken out by my grandfather to go sit on a hillside to watch the lights dance in the sky.
	It is astounding that somehow the UFO research community, I mean the truth seekers, somehow that point has escaped them.
	Well, alright, let me stop you there and say, when I asked the question, here is the spirit in which I asked it.
	Americans are now rapidly reaching 50 years of age, about 10,000 a day, you know, the baby boomer generation.
	The baby boomer generation is becoming far more spiritual by the day, as they get older.
	It's not a particularly structured spiritualism, but very non-structured, very much like the Native American traditions.
	We also are becoming much more conscious of the earth around us, much as Native Americans have always been.
	So, to me it would make sense that the baby boomers would reach out to people like you, and if you're not going to be there anymore, then there ought to be others.
	Well, you know, you're absolutely correct in what you're saying, because in the last 11 months, what we did discover is that, excuse the description, the average man, the average woman, those of us, and I include myself in that, who are not part of the in-the-know community or the power loop, that in fact we all really do have common desires, goals,
	and we are reaching for spirituality.
	The problem is that so many other Native Americans that I am familiar with who have extended
	a hand end up getting exploited, end up getting used.
	Their teachings are turned around for the wrong reasons.
	I mean, one of the phenomena for Native Americans that I think best portrays this is the gambling casinos that are cropping up on reservations.
	I speak again only for myself, and I'm sure I will get in trouble for it, but I believe that's probably one of the worst things that has happened to Native Americans.
	In the coverage that I've seen, and it may well be just orchestrated coverage, they say that gambling has brought to reservations money, housing, uh... an economy who simply did not exist
	previous to the gambling uh... very positively portrayed now maybe by those who want
	gambling there i don't know
	uh... but you've got the opposite reaction why yes because
	uh... though i i agree that uh... for the most part it probably have put money
	into the economy at the reservation as i understand from other elders and from those that i
	have spoken to the average uh... reservation take
	so to speak is about ten percent of the money generated The bulk of the fund seems to be going towards the management companies, which are almost always
	Not a reservation group or a company.
	It's something that is off reservation.
	No, I understand.
	The casinos come in and they build.
	Yes, right.
	And so I have, again, my personal opinion, I have a problem.
	I believe that, boy, though the casinos are bringing in some money, I wish that there was another way to do that.
	It is an example, I would suggest, of Native Americans who, I don't know if the idea belonged to one of us, I don't know if it came off the reservation, but it's an example of exploitation.
	It is good, but I think it could have been a lot better had Native Americans stuck to their guns and done it themselves.
	Well, of course, that requires a lot of capital.
	It's something they didn't have, so I guess... That's the sadness.
	That is, again, without dwelling on it for a long time, that is one of the reasons that the circuit tour that I'm doing will be ending.
	It's costly.
	It's very difficult to maintain the pace and to continue.
	I'm sure everybody that's listening understands that funding is very difficult and so we do the best with what we can.
	I wish that the response of the civilized world, the powers that be, would be just a little bit kinder to native peoples.
	Do you think it will change the nature of reservations in a negative way, aside from the positive aspect of more money floating around?
	Will it subvert the culture?
	Oh, I think so.
	I think so because, unfortunately though, money is, and I hesitate to say a necessity, but it is something that is crucial to survival in the system that exists.
	It also begins to pervert the values.
	Why should a young Native American man or Native American woman on the reservation Why should they pursue becoming a singer, a dancer, an artist and somebody who continues the tradition of weaving baskets or doing sand paintings when they can go to a local casino and become a cocktail waitress or a blackjack dealer and make infinitely more money?
	I can understand the survival of it.
	It's just, unfortunately, my belief again only that it will pervert the traditional values.
	Could it be so serious that you suppose, Robert, eventually the Indian nations as we know them and the reservations as we know them will simply disappear?
	Simply disappear into America's new culture?
	Well, the tragedy is that it's already occurring.
	There are many, many tribes on the eastern seaboard who are not familiar with their traditions, who don't know the old ways, who have lost their songs and dances.
	They were incorporated into the American concept 200 years ago.
	Here in the southwest, they are relatively intact because we have not had that much contact.
	Arizona became a state only some 80 years ago in 1912.
	Our values here are relatively intact, but in the East Coast there are tribes who have been swallowed up and who really don't have a sense of their Indian-ness.
	I was just recently asked to go to Seattle to speak to some children on a reservation up there.
	and in the northwest the same thing is occurring the values of being a warrior the values of
	standing for something regardless of the odds against you they are being lost to a regular
	paycheck a fast car and a CD player.
	No I'm sure it's true.
	What is the blue kachina?
	Well the blue star kachina is one of the most fascinating of all the kachinas in the Hopi
	way of life.
	It is the spirit of the things that are around us.
	It is the spirit of the wind, the trees, the plants, the animals.
	The kachina is also the dancer, a human being who dances, personifies, dresses, and becomes the spirit.
	And then you have the third variation, which is the actual carving, a carving that represents, in three-dimensional form, the figure.
	The Blue Star Kachina is perhaps one of the most mysterious.
	There is not a great deal of information on the Blue Star Kachina.
	Its name is Nangasohu.
	It's sometimes called the Chasing Star or the Meteor Kachina, but one of the most dramatic aspects of the carving of the figure is that it has a four-pointed black star on its face.
	The rest of the face is blue.
	There is a long, trailing headdress of feathers that go down its back and trail down onto the floor.
	It is said that this represents the long tail of the meteor of the blue star.
	A couple of amateur astronomers, one named Hale and one named Bopp, and one, as a matter of fact, from Arizona, have discovered this thing out beyond the orbit of Jupiter called now Hale-Bopp.
	It's coming this way.
	We'll miss Earth, they say, by 1 to 1.5 AU, or astronomical units.
	Is it possible, everybody wants to know, Mr. Morningstar, whether that might be Blue Kachina?
	Well, I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that should the data that I have seen be accurate, that in fact it very likely is.
	And that, again, let us upset the apple cart on the reservation a little more and suggest that I believe that there are several Hopi prophecies that are being fulfilled by the appearance of this comet, and that in the papers that I have recently released and will elaborate on in the last three appearances, the blue star Kachina, Nangassu, who is very likely the comet Hale-Bopp.
	What is most curious, and sir, if you would allow me, you are so kind, Art, to allow me to have this last interview, a gift from me to you, because I was going to save this for California, but there is a Hopi prophecy tucked away.
	It can be found, it is in several books that are out there, and the prophecy says that the blue star kachina, Nangasuhu, does not appear Individually, it always appears in pairs.
	There is another prophecy that says that in the time of the end of the world cycle, this last cycle, there is a grand white brother that will appear.
	His name is Bahana or Pahana, depending on the accent of the individual.
	Pahana the Great White Brother will appear at the end of the cycle.
	I wonder how Zachariah Sitchin would pronounce it.
	Um... All right, listen, Robert, we're at the top of the hour, so you can take a rest and think about that one, and we'll be right back to you.
	Robert Morning Sky is my guest, and he is a Native American of the Hopi Indian Nation.
	He speaks, though, for himself and very well indeed.
	There's much more to come on Dreamland.
	I'm Art Bell.
	We'll be right back.
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	Now again, here's our panel.
	My guest is Robert Morningsky, Native American, Hopi, and Apache, I believe.
	And I'll confirm that moment.
	And we're talking of many things.
	seven two seven one two nine five my guest is robert morning sky, native american
	hopi and uh... apache i believe and i'll confirm that moment and uh... we're talking of
	many things as i said we would we were talking of the blue kachina star
	You said, yes indeed, it might be Hale-Bopp.
	And you said it portends the arrival of another.
	Yes, sir.
	And when the other arrives... I think I was at the point of asking you how Zacharias Sitchin might pronounce it.
	Is it the rogue planet that Zacharias Sitchin imagines is going to come back?
	I believe so.
	Zachariah Sitchin is, I would consider, one of the most unrecognized scholars.
	His work is absolutely fantastic.
	I wish I had had it when I was in college years ago.
	But the name which he assigns to the twelfth planet, to the black rogue, is Nibiru.
	What is most interesting about Nibiru, a Sumerian term, is that I suggest it's directly related to an ancient Egyptian word for the sun disk, or the Aten, which in fact was called Neb Heru.
	Neb Heru literally meant Lord of the Sun.
	And then if we refer to one more ancient society in ancient Babylon, the guardian and protector of the skies of a city called Lagash was named Ningirsu.
	And I am, again, going to suggest that Nibiru, Nebiru, Ningirsu, and the Hopi Nangasohu, the Blue Star Kachina, are all one and the same.
	And that, again, should the data of the Hale-Bopp comet be accurate, and at this point I'm relying on the experts, it has every appearance of being the visitor that we will see in early 97.
	Hopi prophecy, however, if all of this is accurate, Hopi prophecy suggests that approximately seven years later, we will be visited by its second older big brother.
	The curious phenomena of Hale-Bopp, if the Hopi prophecies apply, I am going to suggest that there will be a blue face, a blue corona, a blue aura, there will be some blue factor to the appearance of Hale-Bopp.
	and big brother which will appear in about seven years after uh... ninety
	seven will probably have a white faith it will have a white or a
	or a white coronet and when it gets here
	uh... as in the mass song about suicide bringing on many changes
	i'd i don't think it's a time for suicide On the other hand, I'm sure some people might... No, no, no, no, I wasn't referring to suicide.
	It will bring with it many changes.
	Absolutely, and we are, I believe, already beginning to witness these changes.
	I bow to the words of a gentleman who I have a tremendous amount of respect for, who calls it the quickening.
	Yes.
	And I believe that many, many things are going to be happening, not just the earth changes that everyone is talking about and making predictions about, but also changes in mankind itself.
	There will be a speeding up of events and biological processes. One of the things I've
	suggested this last year on the tour is that women will find that their monthly cycles
	will shorten. They're going to find that the... what the pregnancy stages are going to
	quicken. I am going to also suggest that we're going to find some anomalous changes in the
	actual birth of children. We're going We have already, for example, on the reservation begun to witness the birth of children with six fingers.
	With six toes.
	These are not just a useless appendage, but a fully functioning, unrecognizable sixth finger.
	You're giving me a lot of news here.
	I've not heard a word about this.
	Where has this begun to occur?
	These have been reported on the Navajo Reservation, which is in the Four Corners area here in the southwest.
	My understanding is that there are some reports like this in Alaska.
	I will be happy to contact the individual and have them forward this to you.
	I don't have them right here on hand, but I will have them faxed to you.
	There are reports of six-fingered children.
	I have photographs of some children.
	One that was born in the United States, not to a Native American family.
	But the granddaughter of a very, very close friend, and I promise you it is unrecognizable.
	You know, as a six-finger, you simply would have to be looking carefully in order to see it.
	All right, well then we have to talk quickly about Roswell or Socorro, whichever it was, and the Santilli footage with the six digits, fingers and on the feet.
	That's correct, sir.
	And again, there is, believe it or not, I suggest a link between the Hale-Bopp comet, its return, the surfacing of the film of the six-fingered figure in the Santilli tape.
	I just today received a fax from Mr. Hesseman and Mr. Santilli and there is most definitely
	a link between the birth of children with six fingers and six toes with the surfacing
	of the Santilli tape which shows the six fingered hands and the six toes.
	And I will also again refer back to the ancient societies back in Egypt and Samaria where
	the numbering system was based on twelve and not ten.
	I can only suggest that is a very curious coincidence that a twelve numbered system
	was used by the ancients.
	We have a 12 fingered being who was autopsied in that film that Mr. Santilli provided us.
	And, again, with the birth of six-fingered or twelve-fingered, twelve-toed children.
	And this is going to, I again suggest, is going to happen.
	Actually, it was not one, but it was two films, I believe, of two separate autopsies.
	That's correct.
	Both with six fingers, six toes.
	And you say ancient.
	I'm sure you're familiar with the very secular phrase, hiding in plain sight.
	Are you trying to tell us that these people, the star people, if you will, are with us now?
	Yes sir, I am.
	One of the most important aspects of what I have been trying to suggest all year on the tour and will finish with is that I am trying to provide documentation, ancient sources, contemporary sources, and suggest to the world that the gods and devils of mankind We have those that we spoke of in ancient legends and all the ancient civilizations spoke of, that not only did they exist, and certainly Zacharias Sitchin, and there is a new book out, Fingerprints of the Gods, my apologies to the author, I do not recall his name, I was just gifted with a copy.
	There are numerous authors who are writing about the ancient ones in the sky, star beings who have either interfered with or guided man, let the listener choose the word.
	And should, for example, all of these authors, should the stories and the research and the material that they're providing be true?
	Then the question that has to be asked is, where are they?
	And I simply suggest to everyone That not only are the stories true, and they were here, but they are still here now.
	And if they are hiding, they are hiding in plain sight.
	They are not little green men.
	They are not these enormous-headed, big-eyed creatures with green scaly skin.
	If the ancient stories are true, if Zacharias Sitchin and his material is accurate, and what I am trying to portray is accurate, we are the descendants of these star beings.
	And so, all I can say is, we don't see them because they look like us.
	Yeah, that's hiding in plain sight, all right.
	Absolutely.
	What bothers me, or affects me, or makes me think more than anything else that there is something to all this is not just my own observation as a talk show host of what I'm calling the quickening, but I've interviewed Sitchin, I've interviewed Gordon Michael, I've interviewed actually just about all of the big prophets and Uh, soothsayers of our time, and it's not any individual one of them that affects me, but it is collectively their message, which, along with your message, and all the rest of the others, almost all say the same thing.
	They may come at it from different, uh, perspectives.
	Uh, one with visions, one with this or that.
	You with, uh, your ancient knowledge, or...
	knowledge that is a ancient i suppose i should say all of it collectively points toward the same
	uh... next few years
	uh... so i guess i would ask you is it possible
	do you think we're all experiencing collective millennium madness
	is it really coming and now i i think that it's absolutely uh... going to make
	its appearance in the next uh... few years the changes uh...
	i mean certainly if we look at the earthquake phenomena the numbers of the
	quake the intensity has increased It's just geometric in its number.
	I know.
	And perhaps, again, the best analogy that I can use is that of a roller coaster.
	We are all participating in a roller coaster, whether one deems it the earth or the universe.
	But we have crested the hill.
	We have reached the last quarter, and it's all a downhill rush to the very end.
	As this occurs, as we come speeding down off that last hillside, there are many people who are going to be frightened by the quickening.
	They're going to be frightened by the speeding up of the event.
	Some of them are going to want to bail out.
	On the other hand, there are some who will enjoy the ride.
	There are those who will toss their arms up to the air and let out a great big yell, and we're going to enjoy as this particular ride comes to an end.
	Which group are you in?
	I'm going to throw my arms up, I'm going to paddle out, and I'm going to dance.
	I am not predicting the end of the world.
	I am not a doomsayer.
	I believe that the world as we know it will change.
	Yes, there are going to be some very interesting things that are going to occur.
	Perhaps the most dramatic is that the light switch is going to get turned off and no one is going to be able to turn it back on.
	The question is, can an individual survive without electricity?
	And that's a very, very real question that we have to answer.
	The world will change.
	It's interesting, because in a lot of parts of the world they do it every day on a regular
	basis with no problem.
	Here in America, when the electricity goes off, just about everything we use to function
	in life stops.
	Exactly.
	I've got a fax here, Robert.
	See, I'm sure you'll agree with this, or maybe you won't.
	Art, on why there aren't more Native Americans speaking out as your guest, Robert Morningsky.
	It's because most are perceived in an ill light.
	Look how most are portrayed as alcoholics who need the government to survive, or in movies, as some kind of superstitious simpleton.
	My wife is Navajo.
	While she doesn't know a great deal about her heritage, her dad does.
	He regales us with tales of the lore of the Navajo and the strange occurrences in the San Luis Valley in Colorado.
	They are their art, it's just that they tell those who will listen.
	That's from John and Morgan Hill.
	Oh, I absolutely agree.
	That's absolutely correct.
	It's interesting to be on the circuit and to hear individuals who claim to be searching for the truth or looking for data, and yet when we begin to tell the stories, I'm not sure why the reaction is as this gentleman has said, but he's absolutely correct.
	They just simply do not listen.
	The wonder, however, of this last year for me has been I have found that people at this time, and I'm not sure why, but they are listening.
	I think we are bonded from long, long ago.
	There is a difficulty when I speak with other elders because they are concerned that when I speak of these things that perhaps those who are not Indian will not understand, but I have a problem with that.
	I believe a warrior is someone who has a type of heart.
	An Indian and Native American is someone who has the type of blood and so I really do believe in the warrior hood of
	mankind I really do believe that we can handle the quickening the
	changes that are coming and I really believe that If the higher-ups if the powers that be would leave us
	alone I don't believe we have half the problems that we have on
	this world today many of the prophets That one might speak to would suggest that these coming
	changes that we all seem to know are coming I think so.
	can either be lessened or modified or negated altogether by human behavior.
	Is that your belief?
	I think so.
	I think that again at any given moment we have the opportunity to make a change both
	as an individual and as a whole.
	The problem that I have is believing that we will be able to get together with a common
	Unfortunately, we have too many, again, powers that be from institutions that are oriented towards religion or education or economic sources, bankers, politicians.
	Um, the institutions are the ones that are really, um... Possibly, uh, past the point of no return, in other words.
	Yes, yes.
	Robert, hold on, we're at the bottom of the hour.
	We'll be right back to you.
	Robert Morningsky, more in a moment.
	Once again, Robert Morningsky, are you there?
	Yes, sir, thank you.
	Alright, how about a few phone calls?
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	Just before I pick up the first line, I've got a fax here from somebody who simply asks, one of the most important elements of your work, Mr. Skye's work, Morning Skye, is your translation or translations of Orion and Cirrus words.
	Please ask him about these words, the ones covered in your papers.
	Are we talking about the decipherment of the Santilli tape?
	I believe so, yes.
	I'm surprised at the abilities of your listeners.
	I have, in just the last few weeks, received from Michael Hesseman in Mesquite, Nevada, at a conference there, a copy of the film that Ray Santilli released on the autopsy of the alien being.
	I was caught by the hieroglyphs, the figures that appeared on the beam in the wreckage and debris segment.
	The I-beams?
	The I-beams, that's correct.
	As a Native American, and in my research, I've always been fascinated with petroglyphs and the stories that they tell.
	And when I actually saw the first videotape, I was absolutely caught up in what they might represent.
	They had a vague familiarity with it, but the video copy that I had originally received from a friend from the Fox Network production was not very clear.
	Michael Hesselman's tape, however, and I have to thank him greatly for it, was much clearer, and when I saw the film, I used a VCR to create some stills, and I immediately went to some alphabet charts that I have been constructing over the last 30 years since I began the linguistics breakdown of languages in college in the late 60s, and I know that this sounds relatively outrageous, but by very carefully analyzing the possible path
	I was actually able to come up with a translation.
	I submitted copies to a few key people and certainly you, my friend, were one of them, and I am offering what is a suggested translation of what is on the I-Beam.
	I received a fax today from Mr. Hessman and Mr. Santilli, very pleased with the results.
	They're sending me some additional footage and stills, which I have not seen.
	I can't stand it.
	Can you tell us?
	I believe you're holding a copy of the Glyph.
	I will answer it in this regard.
	The translation appears to be very much along the lines of what we might find on a marine poster, on a navy ship somewhere.
	Essentially, without revealing the exact information, because I want to reserve that for Los Angeles next week and my last appearance there, essentially it says that the beings of this ship are are ready, they're aware, and then it identifies them in
	fact as a female warrior.
	And that's about as close as I can get.
	Gee, with your opening comments, I would have translated that to mean,
	the star people want you.
	Kind of like the old Uncle Sam with his finger pointing at you to recruit.
	Right.
	Well, my apologies, the translation, the decipherment that we came up with after the study of the linguistics breakdown, in fact, is more of a semper fidelis, you know, Marines ready and prepared, that kind of situation.
	Oh, isn't that something?
	Please leave the... Let's go to the phones.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hi.
	Hi, how you doing?
	All right, where are you, sir?
	My name's Kirk.
	I'm calling from Santa Ana.
	Santa Ana, all right.
	Yeah, I have a question.
	With all the billions of comets floating out there in the Oort cloud, at least that's what astronomers say, is that there's this big cloud of comets floating out there that periodically get nudged out and they drift into the solar system.
	What makes you guys think that this Speaking of pair of comets, it was recently discovered, you
	say, is this Kachina?
	Oh, all right. First of all, we have only discovered, to the best of my knowledge, one comet, and that is Hale-Bopp.
	But the question is a fair one. With respect to that comet, why that one?
	Well, I am reliant upon the data and the information that is given to me by others, other researchers.
	Again, I want to stress, I am not a physicist, an astronomer.
	I am basically no one.
	I am an average man.
	I'm a dancer by profession.
	I am simply addressing the Hopi prophecies and some ancient cultures and simply saying that should the data that is being provided be accurate, then in fact it does fulfill Hopi prophecy and many of the stories of ancient societies.
	So, the listener, the person who just called in, my apologies to Kirk Aguilas, that should the data be incorrect, Then, in fact, the prophecies and what I have spoken about would not be correct.
	Sure.
	I am dependent upon scientists and astronomers and the data that they provide.
	Good answer.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Where are you calling from, please?
	Ohio.
	Ohio.
	All right.
	Welcome to the program.
	Is it snowing in Ohio or has it stopped?
	It's snowing.
	All right.
	Get good and close to your phone and speak up good and loud for us, sir.
	Okay.
	I've been listening to you.
	I just want to explain something, or warn you maybe.
	You remember Lot was in Nineveh?
	In the city of Nineveh?
	And the two angels went to visit him.
	And he told them that they better get out of the city of Nineveh.
	Yes.
	And he went in and he shut the door.
	Lot went in the house.
	Yes.
	And he shut the door behind him.
	The angel shut the door.
	Yes, sir.
	And all the people were blinded.
	And that's a picture of it.
	uh... they wanted to know a lot in a spiritual adultery relationship they want to know
	christ and by doing it they blinded
	the multitude and which is happening today the people who were or becoming
	spiritually blinded from the truth
	god is telling the strong delusion that they believe a lie and uh... it's sad it really is because
	you think it's the truth but you're really pulling a false gospel
	all right um...
	let me get your reaction to that robert that is of course uh... a devout christian
	and...
	And he is politely scolding you and me and all of us for even talking of such matters.
	How do you generally respond to people who approach you that way?
	With a great deal of respect and again to this gentleman, I did not hear his name.
	I absolutely respect his position and his words and what it is that he wishes to It's interesting, Robert.
	have no problem with that i'd i can only hope that uh...
	that i am a courted in that and that you start courted the same privileges
	uh... the wonder of uh...
	that particularly this country in that it should be tolerant of all police and so i i
	cannot begin to portray
	obvious gentleman's belief systems as inaccurate or wrong it's interesting
	robert our nation uh... constitutionally
	absolutely uh... respects all of these different police systems that allows for
	and protects them uh... as a matter of fact
	but the individual religions nor do they have to
	and uh... and so they they are very narrow and very structured and uh... if
	you are not within those particular uh... bounds uh... you're not going to be respected
	and he did it politely but uh... the and uh... i've got to say that there are
	elders on the reservation that have uh...
	i've told me in a much more colorful and dramatic uh...
	passion for i think the gentleman for you know the way that he put it but you know i can have a
	fact that i respect his position and and i hope that he allows us to uh...
	express our position alright good let's continue to do that then uh... first-time
	caller line you're on the air with robert morning sky hello
	i might worry that i'm calling from kirkland washington primary
	hi i want to know what the best way that we can prepare for the coming changes
	Oh no!
	That's an awfully good question.
	Robert, the best way to prepare for what's coming?
	Well, let's not put Robert on the spot here for a moment.
	Let me, number one, mention that I will be in Seattle, Washington at the end of January.
	I'm holding a two-day intensive workshop and we're going to address precisely that.
	A very quick answer is simply this.
	In the workshops and in the materials that I am presenting, I'm trying to... Let's see, how can I explain it?
	If I were to ask this lady to describe a bear, she might very well suggest that the bear is a very gentle, compassionate beast of nature.
	If I asked Art Bell, what is the bear, he'll say, well, this is a nasty, evil carnivore that will bite you in the butt the minute you turn around.
	And so the question I think is, what is the truth?
	We know Art Bell's truth.
	It's a carnivore.
	We know this lady's truth.
	It is a gentle beast of nature.
	The truth Is that somewhere in between?
	Is it a combination of the two?
	My suggestion in all of my research and workshops and lectures and papers is that the truth is the bear.
	And I suggest that what we need to do is to sort through all the beliefs, set them aside, and address what we know, what we absolutely know.
	In the Tarot papers in the first book, what I am trying to suggest is that star beings Those that are out there do not have a religion per se.
	They do not have a belief system.
	They have a system based on knowing.
	The stars are a certain way.
	The planets are another way.
	The human physiology, the star being physiology is a certain way.
	A belief system is unique to mankind.
	And I do not want to take anyone's belief system away from them, but I can only suggest a very quick answer is to search for the bear.
	All right.
	Well, a very quick response would be, yeah, but if you're wrong, it'll bite you in the butt for sure.
	There are days it's going to bite you in the butt, and next it's going to lick you on the cheek.
	The idea that a truth is universal and unchanging is one of the things that is going to be very difficult to deal with.
	Truths change.
	The bear changes daily.
	Yes, sir.
	On the wild card line, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hello.
	Hi, this is Jim from Oregon City.
	Hello, Jim.
	Uh, Como 1000 tonight.
	Uh, well, I bet it's piling in there.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Anyway, I'd, uh, like to say hello to Robert Morningstar.
	Good morning, Skye.
	Skye, right.
	He's right here.
	Good evening, sir.
	Uh, how are you, sir?
	Good, sir.
	How are you?
	Oh, fine.
	I've made several trips down there to, uh, the, uh, the, uh, to your area.
	And, uh, have met, uh, several people down there.
	And they're all talking about the same things that you speak about.
	And there was a question I wanted to ask you.
	How is everybody holding up after that freeze that you experienced back in June?
	The freeze that we experienced?
	Yeah, that's when the crops froze.
	Oh!
	On a personal level, I was very fortunate.
	I was on the road.
	I was not here.
	However, We deal with the cards that we are given.
	We will survive.
	It is one of those maxims that I think all primitive, the savage peoples of this world, I love the word savage, we adhere to is that regardless of the freeze, the heat, the drought, or the salmon, that we will endure because we are not dependent on the light switch on the wall.
	No, but we are dependent on Mother Earth.
	Absolutely.
	And I know that Native American peoples believe that Mother Earth is, in fact, a living organism.
	Is that going too far?
	Is that about right?
	Oh, no.
	That is, again, part of the very basic existence daily.
	Mother Earth is a living thing.
	She is teeming with life.
	She does take a breath.
	She grows.
	There are parts that are regenerated.
	And I would suggest, along with other Native Americans who have gone out and said, Mother Earth is in pain.
	She is crying.
	She is hurting.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	If you were to describe Mother Earth's present attitude, Well, you just did.
	You would say she is in pain.
	Oh, she's in great pain.
	She is shivering, she is shaking, and I hope, as part of the answer to the lady just a moment ago, that we need to take care of Mother Earth, because, in fact, we are dependent on her.
	The light switch is not anywhere near as crucial as the fresh air and the water.
	We have a legend from long ago that says that the Great Spirit converted the most beautiful woman in the universe and he changed her into Mother Earth.
	Her hair became the grass, her blood became the rivers, her bones became the very stones
	themselves and we are all descended and born of Mother Earth and we need to take care of
	her as we take care of our own mothers, our own grandmothers, our daughters and our wives.
	It's absolutely vital.
	One of the answers to the previous question was we have to be aware that Mother Earth
	is in pain.
	Robert, I don't know where I got it.
	It just came from inside.
	But you said something a little while ago that stood the hair up on the back of my neck.
	You said we're on a downhill slide.
	I have said, when I refer to the quickening, that we have passed the point of no return.
	And to me, that personally does not mean that the world is going to end.
	I keep saying it so people understand it.
	But it means to me that we are going to go on to whatever is next, and there is going to be a change, and that it seems to me Or at least I guess I've concluded that it is unavoidable.
	And I absolutely agree.
	I think one of the things that in my very, very brief encounters with you, sir, impresses me is that many times when you speak, the few times that I have heard you, been able to listen to you when I was on the road, I think many of the comments that you make come from deep within.
	I think many of your listeners, I think the reason that they're listening is because it strikes a chord deep within.
	are there so we just need to recognize them and i'm glad i have to agree with
	you there is the end of the world as we know it meaning the system the
	institutions and and the way in which we punish ourselves those will change but
	it is not not the end of the world at all on the other hand i'm sure a banker
	on wall street would think it is the end of the world uh...
	you and i am sure will go out and how i will be in for all through the night and
	there are a part of that's right there are many worlds
	thank you for the kind words Perhaps it would be summed up as I summed it up once when we did a what if, which of course everybody dragged out and changed as if to say that I said some comet was coming to hit Earth.
	I didn't say that.
	What I did say was that if a comet should be coming to hit Earth, I think that after, you know, considering it, Carefully, I would sit right here as long as I could and talk to you.
	Probably get a good observation post.
	And we'd all watch it come in together.
	That's a sort of a dance, I guess.
	You're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Where are you calling from, please?
	Hi, this is Mark from Honolulu.
	Hi, Mark.
	Hi, Art and Robert.
	Hi to you.
	Welcome, sir.
	It's good to talk to you again because I first met you several years ago when you did the tour in Melbourne, Australia with the My friend Duncan Rhodes.
	Oh yeah, sure.
	Duncan is a good man.
	Yeah, he is.
	And I was just wondering, though, that if any of in your historical background, you know, with the Hopi or the Apache Indians, is there any indication, like, with this change, like what will come on as like a I'm moving into another dimensional area where the world
	and the people as it is now are just in a lighter space while the third dimensional realm
	that we understand now stays here so people can keep working out their heaviness.
	Essentially, in the Southwest, the belief is that death is a transition, that the end of this cycle is again transition.
	I don't want to equate that with death, but that whatever it is that we are doing now, if you're a drummer, a dancer, a singer, an artist, a farmer... Got a break.
	That that's what's going to happen in the next cycle.
	All right.
	Well said.
	We'll be right back.
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	And the brochure is absolutely free.
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	going to scummy an awful lot of fun
	another important number is if you would like to order a copy of this program
	or our newsletter please make note of this number
	Good 24 hours a day.
	The number is 1-800-917-4278.
	That's 1-800-917-4278.
	Alright, that was the number fest.
	is 1-800-917-4278. That's 1-800-917-4278. All right, that was the number fest. Now let
	me give my guests an opportunity quickly to plug... What would you like to plug? If you
	could plug something, you've got the TerraPapers. What would you like to plug, Robert?
	Well, thank you very much, sir, for the opportunity.
	One, let me plug Art Bell and say that I'm very pleased to say that there are a few warriors on the quest for the truth, and I'm very happy to be able to No, that Art Bell is going to continue with his quest.
	I am honored.
	I'm very honored.
	I will, for again the rest of this year for me until February 1st, I have the Terra Papers, which is essentially the summation of the research on the history of mankind, the hidden history of mankind.
	We are releasing next week in Los Angeles the report on Hale-Bopp and the Santilli Glyphs, the decipherment.
	People who would be interested in reaching us, in my retirement phase, I hope to be able, should the interest be there, to take people on vision quests and to take them on expeditions into the canny lands to show them some of the data that we use to put out our books.
	They can reach me at, uh, I have a phone number, area code 602-996-6324.
	And our fax number is area code 602-953-0...
	And I invite those people who live in Los Angeles, my last appearance in Los Angeles area is next weekend.
	In Seattle, I'll be there the last weekend in January.
	And then my very, very final appearance, I intend to powwow and dance madly, will be in Austin, Texas the second weekend of February.
	Well, you are heard in all of the areas you just spoke of, so... Oh, well, good.
	Well, I invite everybody to come out and dance with me, and hopefully we make some sense with the lectures and workshops, and we will co-start Bell when we do this.
	Robert, thank you.
	You're more than kind.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Hello.
	Hi, Mr. Morningside.
	Good evening, sir.
	Where are you, sir?
	I'm from Flint, Michigan.
	All right.
	I have a couple questions.
	One is, do Native Americans really think differently or have different ideas about things like success, serenity, and fear?
	Again, I hate to speak for anyone other than myself, but I think if you look at friends' books, material that is out there, it should be pretty evident that we do have a different perception of what success is.
	We don't measure it in terms of money, but in fact of moments of happiness and feeling proud.
	I know that people don't understand it.
	One of the things that we teach in the Warrior Way is that we should be able to wake up every morning and say, it is a good day to die.
	That does not in any way manifest a death wish.
	What it says is that I have lived my life to its fullest.
	I have said I love you to those that I care about.
	I have done the best that I have could and defended with honor the integrity of being a warrior.
	And so the perception of success, I can confidently answer that yes, but again, I do not speak for anyone other than myself.
	Yeah, I understand.
	The other one is, well, I have some friends that were white until fairly recently.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, I'm sorry too.
	you want to run that one by us again?
	Well, they've started going to sweat lodges, making handcrafts, and reading Native American
	philosophy and I was just curious what your opinion is.
	Oh, I see.
	Alright, what he's saying is they're going Native.
	Again, as I said earlier, to be a warrior means that you have a type of heart.
	To be a Native American means you have a type of blood.
	Contrary to what some elders have argued with me about, I do believe that there are warriors who are out there who have the genetic makeup of what we consider to be a white man, a black man, and an oriental man.
	They're going Native.
	Fantastic!
	I will admit to a prejudice.
	I hope they powwow and dance and wear a feather or two.
	All right, from Jody in Hawaii, a fax.
	Art and Mr. Morning Sky, I've heard of, quote, bringers of the light, end quote, and other such extraterrestrials who were seeded here on Earth.
	You stated that we are the descendants of the star people.
	The reason we can't see them is because they look like us.
	I'd like to take it one step further.
	Is it possible we cannot see them because we are them?
	Oh, I would absolutely agree.
	I think that on an unconscious level, in this reality, there are many of us who are bringers of the light.
	I think that much like the underground in Europe who is waiting for the signals on the BBC, you know, from the Allies, I think that there are some beings here who will recognize the signals, for example, be they Hale-Bopp, Let me ask you about crop circles.
	Crop circles have many of the same attributes, it seems to me, as some glyphs seem to have.
	and that some will awaken, and that in fact the premise that this lady is suggesting is,
	I would absolutely agree with and support.
	Let me ask you about crop circles.
	Crop circles have many of the same attributes, it seems to me, as some glyphs seem to have.
	Indescribable.
	Have you looked carefully at some of the better photography of crop circles, and if so, do
	you make anything of it?
	Absolutely.
	You know, Art Bell continues to amaze me because he has anticipated one of the few people that I have met in my travels this year, and actually over the last couple is one Busty Taylor who is a photographer who worked with
	Colin Andrews.
	I met Colin Andrews years ago in Australia.
	Oh yes.
	And I know this is going to sound odd, but at the end of January, my appearance in Seattle,
	I have invited Busty Taylor who will be flying in from England.
	We will be presenting a two-day workshop and we're going to compare the petroglyphs with
	crop circles and we will compare them to the Santilli hieroglyph on that alien autopsy
	So, Art, you've done it again.
	You've anticipated precisely what we want to do at the end of the month in Seattle.
	Should anyone be interested in a comparison of petroglyphs, crop circles, and the Santilli hieroglyphs, if they can at all do it, we will be there in Seattle at the end of January doing just that.
	Very good.
	East of the Rockies, it's your turn with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hello.
	Yes, this is Randy calling from Arkansas.
	How are you doing, Randy?
	Okay, fine.
	I love your show, by the way, Art.
	Thank you.
	And I have a question for Mr. Morningstar.
	I have two questions.
	Do you believe in angels and also I believe you spoke of changing into something coming up here in the next few years.
	Do you believe that this may be a change into a different spiritual body?
	Okay, in response to the first question, I do believe in angels, but I don't believe in the concept that is generally portrayed now as a glowing being with a halo and wings.
	I believe that there is a basis for this figure.
	Again, in the Tarot papers that we wrote, we present an explanation of what the angels really are.
	Yes, I do, but not in the commonly accepted... Can you give me the short version of what Robert Morning Sky believes an angel is?
	What is an angel?
	Very good question.
	There were essentially figures who assisted the star beings who colonized the solar system and planet Earth.
	Zachariah Sitchin refers to them as the Nephilim, the Anunnaki.
	The term angel is actually derived from two root words, Enki and El.
	Enki is Kinseya.
	He is essentially the star being who created mankind, and El simply means the Lord.
	The Inky Elves, or the Angels, were those who assisted mankind, who helped in the development of education and becoming more human.
	And so, yes, I do believe in them, but not quite in the fashion that is being portrayed.
	They are absolutely accurate, and I believe they exist today.
	I think there are star beings who continue to motivate and assist mankind in achieving a different spirituality, a different level of consciousness.
	Alright, and by the way, for everybody out there, I have the Most remarkable, remarkable photograph of what is clearly an angel that you've ever seen in your whole life.
	And I want to make something very clear because I have received a couple of messages To the contrary.
	We have a... I shouldn't say I. There is a fellow across town, a retired FBI fellow, who has put up a bulletin board and is kindly carrying for us the files and photographs that we collect that are unusual that I would like to be able to share with all of you.
	There is no charge to go on that bulletin board one time each day and download a photograph.
	I urge you, if you have a computer, to go and download a photograph called angel.gif.
	That's angel.gif.
	And you can do it at the bulletin board, and I'll repeat this one more time so I hope it's clear to all.
	You absolutely can go on there, member or not, free of charge, one time per day.
	You want to upgrade your status from there, it's fine.
	It'll cost you some bucks, a few bucks, not very many.
	But one time per day, it is free.
	F-R-E-E.
	Free.
	The number to call to get into the bulletin board is Area Code 702-727-1709.
	702-727-1709. 702, area code, 727-1709.
	And we're going to be talking more about that photograph, so if you can lay your hands on it, by all means, do so.
	And our phone lines west of the Rockies, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Hi, Robert.
	Art.
	Robert, sorry.
	Good evening, sir.
	This is Todd in Bellevue, Washington.
	Yes, sir.
	I'm a Christian also, so I wanted to be respectful and say that I appreciate that you believe what you believe.
	And I wanted to ask, the Bible does teach that there will come a time that there will be, for lack of a better term, a one world religion where everybody will become more spiritual, but no apparent specific religion.
	And that seems to be where we're coming to, and that's why so many Christians believe this is the end time.
	And I wanted to ask, if he believes that there is a possibility that he has been deceived, because there are so many people that believe different things, Someone does have the truth and obviously Christians
	believe they have the truth.
	Robert, you believe you have the truth.
	Is there a possibility you have been deceived?
	Alright, it is a wonderful, unpolitely put question and also a good one.
	Robert, I'm sure you've thought about it deeply.
	Absolutely, and I'm sure that the gentleman realizes that if I did not acknowledge the possibility,
	then certainly I would be very, very foolish.
	Yes, it is possible, sir, that I have been deceived, as it is possible that you have and Art has.
	It is possible we all have.
	I believe that what we need to do is to really, down in our guts, we have the answer deep within.
	And I would actually probably agree with your opening statement that where we are going Probably lend itself to the concept of a one-world union.
	I just hesitate to use the term religion.
	A one-world union?
	A common spirituality.
	Well, what about a common governing body?
	I have a problem with the word governing.
	I would prefer to use the word sharing.
	I have been to Palos where there are a thousand dancers on a football field and that's probably
	the only time that I could say that there are too many of us just because I'm selfish
	enough to want to dance.
	Are there too many of us on planet Earth?
	Yes.
	No.
	No, I don't think that there are too many of us.
	Whatever numbers are appropriate for the time is what is occurring.
	Fascinating.
	All right.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	Hi, Art.
	Hi.
	I'm calling from Carson City.
	My name's Marty.
	OK, Marty.
	K-O-H.
	Glad to have you.
	Hi.
	I'd like to ask Robert a question in regards to the... Does he believe that there were other beings living on other planets, the other planets, like the Moon, Uranus, Pluto, so on and so forth?
	Close-in planets?
	All right.
	Robert?
	Yes, our research and the materials that we have collected essentially support the idea that there was life on other planets.
	The two most obvious candidates, and I believe that time will show that there is or was life on these planets, are those that we call Venus and Mars.
	Certainly, the faith on Mars has to be a very, very strong argument for the existence of some sort of civilization on that planet.
	I take it you have followed Richard Hoagland's work closely?
	I have only just recently been introduced to it, and I'm going to suggest that the same kind of phenomena will be witnessed on Venus.
	All right.
	Oh, my.
	Well, that is an interesting prediction.
	Robert Morningsky is my guest and there is more if you'll stay right there
	Kve g840 radio in Las Vegas is now carrying dreamland live and
	And just to show you, they didn't tell us they were going to do it, but I notice these things.
	So, KVEG 840, thank you.
	Now, we're about to go back to Robert Morning Sky.
	Uh, but I think he will enjoy the following facts.
	I know I did.
	It is from a man named Michael.
	And, um, I can't, uh, I guess up in Oregon.
	He says, Dear Art, Your guest and discussion tonight are very interesting as usual.
	What you said about how we'd react if we no longer had electricity reminded me of a pretty good story.
	It goes like this.
	A young bride was showing off her new home to her dear old grandmother.
	Of course, this included her very modern kitchen that was filled with electronic appliances and gadgets galore.
	After the full tour was complete, Grandma asks the young lady, If you had to give up all your modern appliances and conveniences except one, which one would it be?
	So the granddaughter thought for some time.
	Finally replied, Well, I guess the one thing I just couldn't do without would have to be my refrigerator.
	The grandmother smiled and said, Honey, I'd pick running water anytime.
	And I thought you might enjoy that, Robert.
	That's fantastic.
	Great story.
	Great story.
	This is the end of the program.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Art, Robert, good evening.
	Good evening, sir.
	Where are you?
	This is the Magic Christian calling from San Buenaventura, California.
	Good trip, California.
	Yes, Mr. Morningsky, I'd like to know if in the Hopi traditions or prophecies there is anything that would correspond It is an interesting question.
	made several places in the christian new testament about what we have come to come to know as the rapture the
	sudden disappearance of
	a great deal of people mcginnon bodies off the face of the earth all right in one
	instance it is an interesting question is there any corresponding uh...
	legend of at all
	now i am not familiar with anything that is uh...
	remotely close to that phenomenon That does not mean it's not there.
	Again, I don't want to speak for the elders or any Hopi individual, but I am not familiar with anything that is even close to that.
	Good enough.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Hello.
	Hello, Mr. Bell, Mr. Morningsky.
	Yes, sir.
	Mr. Morningsky, you were talking about A brother or something?
	That's supposed to be seven years after the time of Hale-Bopp, or?
	A relationship.
	In other words, Hale-Bopp will portend the arrival of another.
	Where are you calling from, sir?
	Utica, New York.
	Utica, New York.
	All right.
	And your question is about, I presume, the other?
	Right.
	The other, I think, Robert, is roughly what Zachariah Sitchin refers to as the 12th planet.
	I am suggesting that, again, if the data is accurate, that this figure, this Hale-Bock comet that is going to be appearing in 97, is very likely the 12th planet, Nibiru.
	The Hobie prophecies that I am speaking of are about a figure called Bahanna.
	The Great White Brother, which I think is a very loose translation, but I am suggesting that there will be a brother to Hale Bopp which will probably appear roughly seven years after... Would it be a comic?
	Yes, sir.
	Uh, if Hale-Bopp is a comet, then the brother is a comet.
	Yes, sir.
	And it would be larger?
	I believe it will be larger, yes, sir.
	Well, there was a comet in 1811, and it was supposed to be recorded to be about a million miles in diameter.
	Have you heard anything about that?
	I'm sorry, I'm ignorant of that, sir.
	Well, that would be... I don't see how anybody could call that... Well, I guess it could be a comet.
	I suppose if something was in a rogue returning orbit, it would be called a comet no matter its size, but a million miles, oh my.
	First time callers, call area 702-727-1222.
	Hold it, hold it.
	Okay.
	We are not allowed to put last names on the air.
	It is but one rule that we must follow, so let's just have you give your first name only.
	Okay.
	And tell us where you are.
	Oh, my name is Gregory.
	I'm from Norman, Oklahoma.
	All right.
	Yeah, and hi Art.
	Hi.
	I wanted to ask Robert, you know, this is going to sound really off the wall, but I think that you all mentioned Jung's collective unconscious, and I heard about this alien I-beam from the Warrior Woman.
	The glyphs, yes.
	Well, you know what's really strange about that is that Jung believed that UFOs were manifested from man's belief in them, and it's almost as if the I-beam would be like the structure I'm not quite sure I understand the thrust of what you are saying.
	What does Robert think of that?
	I'm not quite sure I understand the thrust of what you are saying.
	I can only suggest again that the decipherment that we are offering to the research community,
	I do not know actually what its contents are.
	I am suggesting a translation which is much more innocuous.
	It's much more simple.
	It simply was addressing what a warrior woman might say.
	I am ready.
	I am prepared.
	That kind of thing.
	You may very well be correct.
	The problem that I have is that the videos and the slides I have seen do not show a complete beam.
	It does not give us the context.
	It only gives us a couple of small pieces.
	Well, it would be sort of like the bone or like the noggle.
	I guess what shamanism would say would be a part of the noggle.
	It's an interesting premise.
	I can see where we might be able to argue that.
	I just personally don't have enough of the beam hieroglyphs to To really be convinced of that, though I think it's certainly a plausible idea that you've presented.
	Okay.
	Thanks a lot.
	Right.
	Thank you very much for the call, sir.
	And on our first time caller line, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Hi, Art.
	This is Mike in Montana.
	I've faxed you several times in the past.
	I'm sorry, Mike.
	Where are you?
	I'm Mike in Montana.
	Montana.
	All right.
	Right.
	I've faxed you several times in the past.
	Yes, sir.
	Uh, Robert, I have a question concerning Panaha, and in the past we have heard that Panaha was infected with Tibetan people.
	I'm not attached to any viewpoint, but I'd like to know what you have to say about that.
	I have had, uh, several people indicate that they believed it was either the, uh, Tibetan people, the Aborigines, or, uh, possibly even the Dogon in Africa.
	I've also been exposed to, uh, at least one gentleman who, uh, claims that the Hopi have, uh, declared him as Bahana.
	Again, I simply don't believe that we are talking about a physical being.
	I think that we are talking about the phenomena Hale-Bopp, its brother.
	Certainly, the possibility is that the translation speaks of a physical being, but the actual ancient Hopi I do not believe says that.
	All right.
	So little time, so much to do.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Hi.
	Hi, earlier you guys were both talking about Mother Earth, and I just have to say that it is my feeling, actually my opinion, that there is no Mother Earth, that there is just a planet, which is a thing, and it is more or less a creation, but it should never be worshipped, because we should worship the Creator, God, not the creation or the creation process.
	Alright, let us find out if that is in fact what is worshipped.
	Is the Earth itself worshipped by the Hopi, by the Apache?
	I am not familiar with any Native American peoples.
	I'm not familiar with any peoples, be they Aborigines, Ulu, Maori.
	I'm not familiar with any that worshiped Mother Earth.
	What we are saying is that we need to be respectful because we are part of its existence.
	I do not believe that it is just a thing.
	It is as real and alive to me as any human being.
	One of the problems I have, and again I speak for myself, is the arrogance of a civilized world that chooses What is alive and what is not?
	I just have a real problem with that, but in direct response to the question, no, we do not worship Mother Earth.
	We hold her in high regard.
	We hold her in as high a regard as we do our brothers, our sisters, and our parents.
	Well, that's an awfully good answer, and I'm glad the question came up, and maybe it will prevent it from coming up again, but I wouldn't depend on it.
	Robert, they're trying to catch you.
	and they're Christians and it's alright, it's just...
	I guess in a lot of ways I tire of it.
	I knew that you did not worship the earth.
	And thinking of the earth as a living thing is not the same as worshipping it as you would an idol,
	which is what he was suggesting in sort of a slightly flippant way,
	that you are idolizing a mere thing.
	Right.
	Well, I would simply attribute his position to a place of ignorance.
	That is not a criticism or denigrate the gentleman in any way.
	It just comes from not knowing.
	But worship is not anywhere, not remotely close to how we believe in Earth.
	Not the right word.
	Ease to the Rockies.
	You're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hello.
	Hello, Art.
	This is Dave from Cape Coral, Florida.
	Glad to have you.
	Get good and close to your phone, sir.
	You're a little hard to hear.
	Okay.
	I was wondering... That was a good lead-in from the other caller.
	Does the French nuclear testing and all the other nuclear testing that we've done in the past, does that affect the Earth in a negative manner?
	Oh, that's a wonderful question.
	I'm glad you asked it, because I would not have.
	Robert, we are exploding bombs.
	We did it.
	The Russians have done it.
	The Chinese have done it.
	The French have done it.
	For all I know, the South Africans have done it right now.
	The French are doing it in the Pacific.
	Right, and I believe, I don't think anyone would have a problem understanding that we are changing the balance of Mother Earth, the natural growth and development.
	We are destroying the bones and the essence of what goes on inside.
	One of the things that the Hopi and the Aborigine in general accept Is that as we treat our Mother Earth, so shall our mothers, our wives, and our daughters, so shall they manifest.
	In other words, I believe that Mother Earth is suffering internally.
	I am going to suggest that the women of our planet, our daughters, our wives, our mothers, are also going to suffer internally.
	Women are going to start having reproductive problems because Mother Earth is having problems reproducing herself.
	Those problems which we begin to see in Mother Earth, the breakdown of the inner core, the breakdown of the air and the very blood, the waters of Mother Earth, those breakdowns are going to be manifested in our women, and we're going to see more and more women having not only internal problems, but blood problems, reproduction problems, and bone problems.
	Boy, does that make sense.
	I suppose old Indians don't die, they just dance away.
	Quite well said, yes sir, and I intend to dance.
	perhaps if you can call on your guardian angels and They might be able to entice us to come back
	But I thank you very very much for the opportunity to speak to you Robert Morning Sky is my guest he is retiring
	He is leaving public life. It is a sad thing because I would like to interview him again
	Though you never know what life holds would it be possible for me to mention the LA Times?
	conference?
	I just received a fax from the producer and they're almost sold out.
	I'm very fortunate.
	Yes, you may mention it.
	Go ahead.
	They're in Los Angeles next weekend.
	We will be putting on a two-day intensive.
	I don't want to spend time other than to give the phone number if I might.
	Go ahead.
	It's area code 818-355-9339.
	And then our final appearance with a very honored, I'm very honored to have both Busty
	Taylor and Dr. Arthur Horn with me in Seattle.
	If people would like to catch that one, and that will be our last intensive workshop, will be area code 206-763-3018.
	And thank you so much to your listeners and to you, sir, for allowing me to be with you and to express the ramblings and ravings of a renegade.
	Renegade.
	Well, let's get just a couple more calls.
	We've got that much time.
	East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Where are you, please?
	Curtis from Lexington, Kentucky.
	Hi, Curtis.
	Mr. Morning Sky, are you familiar with Mr. Jose Arguelles?
	I only know the name, sir.
	I do not know the work.
	Oh, okay.
	I was just wondering if you knew how Art can get in touch with him and if he gives interviews of any sort?
	I think that would be a good person to get in touch with.
	Well, sir, if you can help me out.
	He has some books with Barron Company.
	I think that's the latest publishing company.
	That might be enough.
	I'll give it a try.
	Okay, thanks a lot.
	All right, thank you.
	West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Robert Morningsky.
	Hello.
	Howdy, Robert.
	This is Denison Metford.
	I had a quick question for you.
	Yes, sir.
	As a matter of fact, there is a story.
	One of the legends speaks of a spider woman who has placed two twin grandsons, one at the North Pole and one at the South Pole in the Northlands and in the Southlands.
	The legends, and there are numerous legends, do speak of the changing of positions of the two twins several times.
	I'm going to suggest that these legends that say the twins changed places, in fact, verifies and confirms the concept of the pole shift.
	I was just speaking myself.
	I know from the Comanche legends that the sun at one time did come up in the west and Well, we've covered that extensively.
	think that very very same concept that there has been a changing of the north and south
	poles, that the directions were reversed at some point.
	Alright, alright, thank you very much caller.
	First time caller line, running out of time, you're on the air with Robert Morning Sky.
	Hi.
	Hello, listen, I wanted to know a little bit more about the Blue Star Kachina, um, Hale-Bopp,
	how does that relate?
	Well, uh, we've covered that extensively.
	It is the view of Robert Morning Sky that, uh, Hale-Bopp may well be the Blue Kachina,
	or Blue Star, right Robert?
	That's correct sir, absolutely.
	Alright, wildcard line, uh, nope, east of the Rockies, you're on the air with...
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	Congratulations, Art, for getting Robert Morning Sky on.
	Thank you.
	Where are you?
	Calling from St.
	Louis.
	Listen to KSD.
	Oh, yes.
	Could you get Carlos Castaneda on, please?
	We could try.
	Do you have any questions for my present guest?
	No.
	Just tell him to keep up the good work.
	Alright, alright, thank you.
	The blind man and the elephant parable applies very much to what he's talking about.
	The blind man and the elephant parable?
	Where everyone's reaching, they've got the whole elephant, and they've got ahold of God.
	That's what all the religions of mankind are all about, and about the Indians.
	They're all going in the right direction.
	Well, that may well be.
	That may well be, and I'm sure it may be, Robert, would you agree or disagree There may be many paths to the same destination.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Very, very much so.
	I mean, there's the highlands and the lowlands.
	Absolutely, sir.
	Without a doubt.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Can we squeeze east of the Rockies?
	You're on the air with Robert.
	Morning Sky, where are you?
	Edmonton.
	Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
	All right.
	One quick question, then we gotta go.
	Okay.
	Just to ask him if he has a word of wisdom for those of us on the path to higher spirituality.
	Very simply, three words, pursue your passion.
	Whatever that is that is fire within you, pursue that, and the rest of it actually will all fall into place.
	It's like saying follow your gut, follow your instincts.
	Pursue your passion, yes, sir.
	Gosh, what so many have said.
	Robert, it has been a pleasure, and in your public retirement as it comes, I wish you well.
	Thank you very much, and thank you to your listeners and to you, and you've been very generous.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Take care, guy.
	Good night.
	That's Robert Morning Sky.
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