Art Bell’s Full Moon Open Lines episode ties Clinton’s 1995 Medicare veto (boosting his 51% approval despite Bosnia) to public distrust of unpopular policies, while callers debate U.S. troop deployments (28K+ in Bosnia, Croatia, Hungary) and Michael New’s refusal to follow U.N.-related orders—Bell insists disobeying lawful commands isn’t justified. Guests like Gordon Scallion predict four 8.0+ earthquakes starting in Japan’s Kuril Islands, citing earlier accurate forecasts (e.g., Vesuvius, Etna), while Stan Deo links OTIS satellite data to seismic risks, including Indian Ocean anomalies. Callers share eerie pre-quake signs—white haze in Landers, widening cracks near San Diego—and question troop withdrawals amid "quickening" theories. Bell’s pragmatic take: while disasters loom, love and intuition guide his curiosity-driven show, blending fringe predictions with geopolitical skepticism. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest.
And oh, it's beautiful out there.
A full starry night.
A moon that, less than one hour from now, enters its complete full phase.
That may tell you something about our show this morning.
Who knows?
Stretching all the way from Tahiti and Hawaii to the U.S. Virgin Islands south, well in Central and South America, north to the pole.
This is coast to coast AM.
Good morning, everybody.
Good morning, Bell, and it's great to be here.
I have a message for my postal.
And we will get to it in due time.
And I sort of debated it, but I'm going to air it.
It is a message he sent me earlier.
He promised to keep in touch.
There is news.
President Clinton vetoed the plan for balancing budget seven years, making yet another government shutdown in mid-December or so, all the more likely said that he did it because of Medicare cuts, environmental changes, gutting the environmental laws, tax cut that the Republicans wanted, and all the rest of it.
The President is saying that he will come up with his own way to balance the budget in seven years.
He will dip into other areas and save money hither and yon, and will submit that on the morrow.
The president's approval rating, according to the Wall Street Journal, an NBC is now up higher than it's been at any time since last June.
51% of the American people approve of what the president is doing.
I read you a letter last night that President Clinton wrote back when he evaded the draft in Vietnam, during the Vietnam days.
That tells you it really is worth a million words, even though it was a little lengthy, it wasn't a million words, it's worth a million about his character.
At any rate, he has vetoed the bill, and the American people like it.
Proving, I think, that the American people want a balanced budget.
And if there is a poll, they will say they want a balanced budget, pay off the debt.
But when there is actual reduction planned to do so, the American people don't like it.
And what they like is the kind of guy who will tell you what you want to hear.
And that's what they've got, and that's what they voted for.
And now his approval rating is up.
Not enough votes to override, so it appears to be bargain or bust.
In other words, the Republicans have got to get down and compromise with the president.
Or mid-December, just about when the first troops, mass troops hit the ground in Bosnia, the government will once again shut down.
Newt Gingrich in the news.
Ethics problems for Newt.
Now, whatever you may think about the validity or non-validity of the accusations against Gingrich, and a lot of them are absolute baloney, apparently this one, they have voted, Republicans and Democrats on the ethics committee, have voted 10 to 0, 10 to 0, for an independent investigator.
Mr. Gingrich now has about a 56% disapproval rating.
And the question is, I guess, that they are going to investigate.
It's going to be narrow.
It's going to involve the money raised from some sort of televised college course he gave and whether it might have been used for political purposes.
It is not going to be about GOPAC.
There are allegations about that running around that Gingrich used money for his congressional campaign and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, Mr. Gingrich is in another one of his funks.
He seems to go in them from time to time.
And it is true the Democrats are demonizing him, and he must feel like a demon, because yesterday he said, I've just about had it with these attacks.
Every now and then, he seems to get to the point where you almost think he's going to walk out.
You almost think he's going to just give it up and leave.
I think Mr. Gingrich, like the president, has a lot of mood swings.
But you know, I do too.
And he's pretty worn down right now.
And the great majority, who knows ultimately whether they're going to get him on some sort of ethics violation.
But an awful lot of this, folks, is pure, absolute, unadulterated attack mode by the Democrats.
And they're just trying to make him into a demon.
And they have filed zillions of charges against him.
Most of them have been dropped outright.
What they're doing to Newt Gingrich is karmic, I suppose, in the sense that Newt Gingrich did it to the previous speaker.
And so it's payback time, I'm sure, and that's the way it is in the political world, and so they're coming at him like a freight train.
Now, what a surprise here from Reuters this hour.
Will U.S. mission be extended?
Two former top U.S. officials say President Clinton opened the door Wednesday to keeping U.S. troops in Bosnia longer than a year.
But the White House says Clinton's remarks were misinterpreted during a closed White House meeting attended by Zygna Brzezinski and Alexander Haig, who served under Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan.
So there you are.
Already there are rumors of, if not the reality of, an extension of the mission in Bosnia.
No big surprise.
NBC did a big story yesterday on our volunteer military.
1.5 million men at 500 bases.
And, by the way, the first U.S. plane has now landed in Bosnia, Tuzla.
And NBC, for whatever reason, and maybe there is a valid reason, interviewed some of the troops who were going to Bosnia.
And some of them said things like, quote, I don't think it's right for us to have to go there.
Now, in America, we had a draft, you'll recall, until 1973.
And now it's a volunteer army.
And when they, you've seen the advertisement, be all-you-can-be, right?
There are lots of promises of college, travel, you get that.
Money, health care, you get that.
PX, commissary, privileges, you know, all the bennies you get.
But in the be-all-you-can-be commercials, they sort of leave out the, but you might have to go fight part.
And NPC was interviewing a whole bunch of military guys who want the career opportunity, they want the training, they want to be able to go into the private sector after they get out of the military and be trained for a job and all the rest of that.
But a lot of them don't want to have to go and fight.
Now, General Schwartzkoff defended them, saying they are all very well-trained.
And he went on to say, something I brought up to you the other day, whether you agree or not with the decision that sent them, the troops, there, the Saul Volunteer Army.
Once they're there, you've got to support them.
And I think that is certainly correct.
You do support the troops.
Can you criticize the policy and support the troops at the same time?
Funny question, huh?
It's the one that they asked constantly during Vietnam when the conservatives criticized the Democrats.
And the Democrats responded, well, don't you remember?
Because I do.
That's the one good thing about age.
You know, you've got memory, and you can remember when similar things have happened before.
And I remember very well the liberals who would come and say, well, I support the troops, but I don't support the war.
And that has occurred during several wars.
So it is always an argument you have when U.S. troops are dispatched to a foreign land.
This sent to me on America Online, just simple, short, and sweet.
Given our fearless president's past involvement with marijuana, is it not ironic that the mission to Bosnia is to be called Operation Joint Endeavor?
It's the first time that I didn't know the name of the operation, Joint Endeavor.
So now we have an endeavor.
We don't have a war.
We don't have, I'm not sure what.
Maybe we do have a war.
I don't know what we have, but we're going to call it an endeavor, apparently.
Dear Arn, last night you talked about the media towers at Tuzla.
And I have a feeling at least two of CNN's reporters will be the poor guy they always send out sloshing into the path of a hurricane, and the female reporter they had stuck in the middle of Beirut for years ducking incoming shells.
A P.S. happy full moon.
I wonder what tonight's program will bring.
Well, I can nearly predict it, Charlotte.
Thank you.
Yeah, I thought it was kind of strange what the media was doing in Bosnia, near the Tuzla area where the troops are going to be coming in.
The media are building these wooden platforms.
They almost look like gallows or something.
And that is where their cameras will go so they can catch the U.S. troops landing and whatever action might be going on.
And, you know, it seems to me that they're going to make awfully tempting sniper targets up there on those platforms.
And they might want to rethink that place to be, or they're assuming it's going to be totally safe.
Frankly, the better place to be when bullets are around is below ground level.
That's why they have GIs dig trenches, as opposed to putting up towers.
AIDS.
Interesting news.
A possible breakthrough.
Scientists claim they have found certain white blood cells that release a chemical that causes the AIDS virus to stop replicating.
Now, the hope is, of course, that using these chemicals, either by producing them and injecting them or producing something that causes your own body to produce more of them, scientists can stop AIDS.
In fact, in the test tube, it has been stopped.
But the scientists are absolutely Amazed that for some reason what works in the test tube does not work in the human body.
And so they're working on that part.
Now, we have never cured a virus.
We may cure this one, I don't know.
There is some very interesting work being done.
And I thought Wayne Green, by the way, had a lot of interesting things to say about that as well.
But it is amazing that the virus in the human body continues to replicate no matter what they do.
Now I'm going to do something that I'm sorry that I have to do, but I think you're going to find it.
You know, I'm even afraid of the right word to use about what you're going to hear here in a second.
Somebody sent me a fax showing a picture of the globe in circular fashion, showing latitudes.
And they showed the eight-point quake that you know has occurred in north of Japan, about 850 miles north of Tokyo.
And it shows a latitude of several, sort of a small flurry of quakes here in the U.S. And the latitude is exactly the same as the eight-point quake over in north of Tokyo.
And you might want to check that out for yourself.
That is very interesting.
In fact, he says, I think we have something to be concerned about here.
Two quakes of similar magnitude at almost exactly the same latitude on the same day in California and Utah.
A third quake the day before off of California at yet the same latitude and even stronger.
Now we get to it.
Earlier today, I got a fact from Gordon Michael Scallion, and I'm going to read it to you, and then it will become obvious what we are going to do.
I want to caution you, as you hear what you're about to hear, that what you're hearing is prophecy.
That doesn't mean it's going to automatically come true.
That is the nature of prophecy.
Having said that, I will say what I always say about Gordon Michael Scalion.
I have been watching him very carefully, and his predictions have been eerily on the mark.
Now, here it is.
I'll just read it to you verbatim, all right?
And then we can talk about it if you want, and you will become aware of what it is that we're going to do.
It's going to be obvious.
Dear Art, as you are aware, Japan's Kurlyo Islands, that's K-U-R-I-L islands, were hit with a magnitude 8.0 earthquake this week.
Now it's underlined.
This is the first of four events I have predicted for the timeframe beginning in December of 1995.
See Earth Changes Report 3 of 95.
That would have been March.
He goes on and signals the beginning of my third four-quake scenario for 1995.
Events will now progress quickly.
On Friday, December 8th, 1995, I will be releasing a press and media update to this prophecy, including potential events that I see occurring in the U.S. as part of this scenario.
I promise to keep you informed on any updates, and I will send you the latest release on Friday, the 8th, at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
I regret my health is such I cannot appear on your program due to its late airtime.
Five years of visions has taken its toll.
I can, if you wish, discuss this update for up to an hour with you via phone at 10 a.m. or 2 p.m. Eastern on the 8th, that's Friday, which if appropriate for you and your listeners could be rebroadcast on your Friday night, Saturday morning coast-to-coast show.
He goes on, I do not wish to alarm anyone, but I sense we are very close to major geological events occurring in the U.S. and elsewhere.
Since both of my earlier four-quake scenarios have occurred, let me say that again, since both of my earlier four-quake scenarios have occurred in sequence and on time, I can only assume the potential now exists.
The complete four-quake scenario, which has just begun, may now occur.
Even if the percentage of such an event occurring is low, I would still feel that everyone in high-risk areas should be prepared.
No different than if a hurricane warning were posted.
I pray the visions I'm seeing now are wrong.
If it should turn out to be so, those who got prepared will be better prepared for when it does occur.
The scientific community and myself are no longer so far apart in our predictions.
The only difference between us now is the timeframe and extent of damage.
Sincerely, Gordon Michael Scallion.
We'll be right back.
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And if I could tell you all the secrets I knew in the cities we're going to soon, it'd blow your mind.
It does mine.
Well, there is a full moon up there.
In about 25 minutes, it is officially full.
So, this was just a great time to drop all this on you from Gordon Michael Scion.
I would be, of course, interested in your comments on it.
again i say it is prophecy and uh...
as such you know you've got to take it with a grain of salt however uh...
maybe we'll get into a biopsy And I've done a lot of thinking about it personally all day long, and I've come to some of my own conclusions on a personal basis.
I recall a guest, I have so many on, I'm sorry, but I recall a guest, yes, saying that I believe it was Wayne, as a matter of fact, I think it was Wayne Green who said that Toyota is doing a lot of research into cold fusion right now.
Well, boy, I tell you, this is Gordon Michael Scallion and what's going on with the quickening and everything.
I just have to be excited about it all.
I know it's going to be some rough stuff that we're going to have to go through, but I believe that the change is imminent, and it's exactly what we need.
But I had a guest, for example, on Dreamland this last week, and Mara Timms, and she and I disagreed very much on she took the same pact you are.
The changes are good, and she kind of slides by what it's going to mean in terms of human lives.
Now, if what Gordon Michael Scallion predicts here should come true, it would be horrible.
He's talking about a completion in the first major cycle, and I've talked to him a lot, so I know, of eight-point earthquakes, one probably to come soon in the Indian Ocean area, one to come in South America or Mexico, and then I would guess one to come on the U.S. West coast.
I understand the way you feel and the way other people feel that this is some sort of evolution and we will come out bigger and better and stronger on the other side should it occur.
But I do not look forward to it.
And I can't find myself taking that, assuming that attitude.
I look at it from a human suffering point of view.
And I know the old expression, no pain, no gain.
And I am prepared to agree with a lot of you that maybe even if this does occur, the human spirit will be lifted somehow and we will be stronger on the other end.
But you know me.
I'm pretty pragmatic.
And I'm not very far wrong when I say if an eight-point earthquake were to occur in the L.A. area, all the buildings would fall down.
If an eight-point earthquake were to occur in San Francisco, most or all of the buildings would fall down.
Eight-plus earthquakes or nine, you know, they level things.
And the eight-point earthquake that just occurred 850 miles north of Japan occurred in a place where there are not people.
Very fortunate.
But if it begins the cycle, as Gordon suggests, and we will interview him in detail, in other words, I'm going to do a taped interview with him for reasons listed in the facts on Friday, and I'll put it on the air Friday night and Saturday, assuming that all comes true and his schedule does not get interrupted or somehow we manage not to get it done.
But I think, obviously, if you heard the facts, he considers it of sufficient importance that we do that daytime interview to be replayed.
So I don't know.
I just can't get excited about it in the sense that, like that man and Moira Tims and others have.
I have an admittedly different attitude toward it.
I want to tell you one thing that I have seen, and the big one in California, that it will happen on a time when the children are home with their families and the weather will be fair and it will be kind of crisp and cold.
I have seen that.
I've seen green grass growing in different areas, which may mean it's in the winter months that we have fairer weather here.
I have foreseen this so many times and the visions I've seen are so horrendous that I don't even want to tell the general public too much because I don't want to frighten them, but many people will survive it, too.
There's going to be a lot of volcanic eruptions, a lot of volcanic activity around the San Andreas Fault.
Well, the people to ask would be in Alaska, and I asked them last night, and I got about 20 faxes after I went off the air saying something is radically wrong with the weather here.
Yeah, it's cold, 20 degrees below, but they've got almost no snow on the ground.
Normally, I live, people think I'm in the arid desert, and I guess I am, but I have right in front of me an 11,900-foot mountains right outside my door, just about.
And by September mid, there should be snow up there.
There is no snow up there, and this is coming up on mid-December.
I didn't get burned, but I guess about $600,000 worth of people did.
We had a company come up here, set up a little computer shop and advertise the best prices in town, and turn around in about six weeks, I would guess, is how long that they were in business, took all the deposits for the orders, and then split town, I guess, here a couple days ago.
Under a full moon, every time I say full moon, I get people messing with me about when the moon is actually full.
I mean, this is typical.
Art, small correction, if I may, about your thinking on the rising of this night's full moon.
This full moon actually started its rise at 4:51 p.m.
It will set tomorrow morning at 6.08 a.m.
I know you like to be accurate, hence the reason for this correction.
This full moon is indeed the harbinger of more than you could guess.
Your warning message at the start of this night's program will turn out to be more prophetic than you now might think.
Despite the coming events, it is a great time to be alive.
And it's signed, Stephen, an attempt to escape identification as a Steve.
Well, it didn't work.
I try to keep an I'll tell you what we're talking about now, and I'm going to reread this to you.
And a lot of people in the Bay Area are just joining us.
They're just going to really be thrilled to death to hear this.
I got a fax from Gordon Michael Scallion earlier in the day today, and I'm simply going to read it verbatim.
Listen very closely, okay?
And I want to, the warning is this is prophecy, and it doesn't, there's no automatic, this is going to come true stuff, but it is from somebody that I give some weight to.
Dear Art, as you are aware, Japan's Kurial Islands were hit with a magnitude 8 earthquake, 8.0, this week.
This is the first of four events I have predicted for the timeframe beginning December of 1995.
See the ECR Earth Changes Report done in March of 95 when he put it on paper.
And he goes on, it signals the beginning of my third four-quake scenario for 1995.
Events will now progress quickly.
On Friday, December 8th, 1995, I'm going to be releasing a press and media update to this prophecy, including potential events I see occurring in the U.S. as part of this scenario.
I promise to keep you informed on the updates, and so I'm going to send you the latest release on Friday the 8th at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
I regret my health is such I cannot appear on your program due to its late airtime.
Five years of visions has taken its toll.
I can, if you wish, discuss this update for up to an hour with you via phone at 10 a.m. or 2 p.m. Eastern on the 8th.
That would now be tomorrow.
Which, if appropriate for you and your listeners, could then be rebroadcast on your Friday night, Saturday morning program.
He goes on, I do not wish to alarm anyone, but I sense we are very close to major geologic events occurring in the U.S. and elsewhere.
Since both of my, now listen to this carefully please, since both of my earlier four quake scenarios have now occurred in sequence and on time, I can only assume the potential now exists the complete four-quake scenario will occur.
It will complete.
May occur now.
Even if the percentage of such an event occurring is low, I would still feel that everyone in high-risk areas should be prepared.
No different than if a hurricane warning was posted.
I pray the visions I'm seeing are wrong, and if it should turn out to be so, those who did prepare will be better prepared when it does occur.
The scientific community and myself are no longer so far apart in our predictions.
The only difference between us is the time frame and extent of damage.
Sincerely, Gordon Michael.
So there you are.
I got a facts in response to that from Mike in Madison.
Dear Art, of course, by now you know, I am a believer in the quickening.
All of my life, my own guru has warned and prepared me for it.
Tonight, at 8 o'clock Central Standard Time, he awakened me from my usual evening nap to tell me simply, it's time.
To me, this is what I've expected, and always the teacher has put events in a, quote, future scenario, end quote, kind of painting.
How utterly ironic that he chose tonight to tell me what he has always prepared me for.
So as I drove through the winter cold and darkness tonight, I wondered what you would report on tonight.
And now you two are aware.
It's no joke, no fantasy, no illusion art.
I know, you know it.
Food, water essentials, plan.
Mike from Madison.
And yeah, I don't necessarily deny that I may feel that, but I may be affected.
You know, when I got that facts from Gordon earlier, it hit me like a sledgehammer earlier in the day, and so I've been giving it a lot of thought all day.
And that may well be affecting my thinking right now.
I knew that what he had predicted had thus far come down.
And, you know, he didn't put it in the facts, but you'll recall many of you who have listened to the show for a while.
He also predicted, before it began, the renewed activity of Vesuvius and Aetna and said that would be a key to watch for.
So in conclusion, his letter seems to be saying, this looks like it.
Well, you know, I can look, it's non-productive for us to sit here and speculate about what she might or might not have done or why she did what she did.
I watch horror movies.
I know.
Everybody knows.
Women in low-cut dresses constantly go to the basement when they hear a noise.
Yeah, but see, also, but I feel like that's irrelevant because it comes to a point that when I feel like our government goes too far, somebody has got to stand up and say no.
Just like I don't remember the lady's name, but the one black lady.
And I do not agree with the U.N. I do not agree with our participation.
I don't want our men under command of anybody else.
Thank you very much.
They need to be under the command of American Officers.
I agree with that.
But I am able in my head to separate that.
The United States has made lawful treaties with member nations of the U.N. They are lawful treaties.
They are the law of the land.
When Michael New said he would not adorn that on his uniform, which he was ordered to, he was breaking a portion of the UCMJ that says you will obey lawful orders.
And by God, it was lawful.
Now, if you don't think it's lawful, you're out here in the private sector.
Maybe you have a chance to change it.
You get on the phone to your congressman or your senator and tell us to get the hell out of those treaties.
To vote to get us out of those treaties.
The proper way is for you to do it, for whoever doesn't like it to do it, not for Michael New to do it.
In other words, if my recollection of the Scallion predictions is accurate, that is not what is about to occur right now.
I believe, and I'm, this is supposition, this is Art Bell doing a recollection of his interview with Mr. Scallion, all right?
The four-hour interview.
And by the way, I recommend to you that you get the four-hour interview we did with Gordon Michael Scallion on Coast.
It is the most comprehensive, the longest interview, as far as I know, Gordon Michael Scallion has ever done, anywhere.
Now, if my recollection is correct, should this particular cycle of eight-point earthquakes manifest itself, there would then be a period of time where there would be a lot of refugees from the West Coast.
I'm recalling this now from the long interview.
There would then be another cycle of quakes that would be real earth movers, if you will.
And those are the ones that would reshape the map.
Now, that is my general recollection of the general tone of the last large interview we did with Gordon Michael Scallion.
I would appreciate any of you jogging your memories and backing me up or correcting me.
Okay, Art, I'm an ex-Marine like your mom.
I'm sick and tired of hearing how U.S. forces in Bosnia will not be placed in harm's way.
If we're going to do this, let's do it with the attitude that they had in 1776.
Remember, don't tread on me?
This not going into harm's way sounds wimpy.
Well, he's right about that.
They certainly are going into harm's way.
That's Dennis from Missoula.
We'll be right back.
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Well, I guess Nightline did a piece on Gingrich's latest problems.
And I got a facts from Larry, listening in KSVO land up there in the Bay Area.
He says, first, I don't understand why the press is so interested in Newt's improprieties, while Clinton, it seems, can literally get away with murder.
Well, I know why.
It's karma.
It's getchback time.
You'll recall Newt Gingrich had a lot to do with getting Jim right.
And he was vilified.
And now Newt is being vilified.
The Democrats going after Newt.
That's all there is To it.
It is a straight-on payback.
You can be sure of it.
A lot of the charges against Newt Gingrich are pure bull.
But that doesn't matter.
They're going after him anyway.
It is political payback.
That's all there is to it.
They're going after him.
Hey, Art, if you asked the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, would you like to be extinct, they would have said, bad idea.
But if not for that change, we, as in Homo sapiens, would not be here.
You, my friend, are just another dinosaur.
Jeff and Pam from Eugene.
Well, you're probably right.
That doesn't change my answer.
If they would ask me, do I want to be extinct?
I would still respond, bad idea.
Though I might be about to turn into somebody's future petroleum supply, I still think it's a bad idea.
I just cannot get behind this new age.
Welcome it with open arms.
You know, if it's coming, whatever the change is coming, welcome it.
The human condition is going to improve.
Sure.
Oh, yeah.
Well, maybe millions will die, but through it all on the other end, we're going to come out stronger.
Or not at all.
Whatever the case is, that way of looking at it, I've been unable to bring myself to that point.
But I do think, and I think it is reasonable, that we are animals.
You know, human beings, we're mammals, we're animals.
And animals have instincts.
We know they do.
Birds, dogs, cats, they all react and feel things that we don't even know are going on, or sense them, or know they're coming, or feel danger that we don't feel.
And it is, the word is instinctual.
It's a good word.
I don't know that we can put our finger on what it means, but I for some time have had an instinctual feeling that the other shoe is about to drop.
I am not, I am not, I am not, I am.
In other words, I don't dwell on it.
It does not greatly affect my life because I can't put my hand up and stop an eight-point earthquake.
If it is going to happen, it's going to happen whether I want it to or not.
So I have a little bit of a sort of a dual attitude toward it.
One is that I cannot stop it if it's going to occur.
And the second is I will be pragmatic.
I will watch very carefully.
If this particular cycle should continue with eight-point earthquakes, obviously I will begin to take it more seriously by the moment.
I will watch the Indian Ocean.
I will watch South America and Mexico.
Were I to begin to see the cycle completing, I would about it all day long today.
And if there were several eight-pointers, I'm out of here.
If it culminated with an eight-pointer somewhere on the West Coast, then that's it.
I'm out of here.
I'm not a dummy.
You can do all the numbers crunching you want, but should this much of his prophecy come true, then I think it would be practical to imagine the rest of it would.
Pragmatic.
How do you feel about that?
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
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Hey, Eric, how you doing?
This is Joe from L.A. Hi, Joe.
Hey, you know, you got to watch the quickening.
You've got to watch how many passports to Switzerland go through.
Do you think that they'll spread their own terrorist maybe mortar some of our troops and then put some Serb scarfs down and berets down and stuff and blame it on the Serbs?
Don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure that one out.
So obviously there's going to be trouble.
I do agree with the facts here a little while ago.
Once we go over there, once our military moves and we get people there, anybody who shoots at us had better be ready to be buried on the spot, as far as I'm concerned.
That's the way we better react.
That's the only way we can react.
And it'll probably be an overreaction.
But we're going to have to do that, and we're going to have to, and by God, we better be ready to do it.
Not just with words, but with deeds.
So anybody taking a pot shot, and it's going to happen, at us over there, had better learn very quickly that they will die.
You know, I don't know of any other way to put it.
This is why, like, I subscribe to two different electronics magazines and I don't know what they're saying for no reason, or I'm hit with the overwhelming desire to, like, solder things.
Okay, Great Britain and Germany and the United States are very much NATO.
and as you're well aware also i think what's works around says is true that the united states is rapidly becoming overextended we have we have we have that's different All right, thank you.
Everybody remember to do that when you inspect it.
unidentified
Hi there.
It's been a while.
Okay.
And I've got two items for you this morning.
The first is, is it true with Newt's reform of Medicare that, well, I'm a 33-year-old of moderate income, and I understand under his plan, I would be liable if my parent ever became indigent in a nursing home?
And I am all for getting the French to stop that idiotic testing out in the Pacific.
And that doesn't make me a tree hugger.
Again, I'm very pragmatic about it, and I think nuclear detonations are a bad idea.
We know by now they work.
There should be some sort of universal test ban treaty.
It should stop.
I do agree with that, by the way.
Wildcard line, you're on the air.
unidentified
I heard something in the news a couple months ago that had to do with a military order about a fellow who refused to fly with women because it was against his religion.
Well, maybe they had him go see a doctor who said that he was in some way disturbed, and he got a discharge other than that through a court-martial.
You follow me?
unidentified
Okay, one other thing about Richard Hoagland and Scallion.
You had Richard Hoagland on, and at one point you were talking about Scallion with him, and Richard Hoagland was saying that he gets, Scallion gets his information from somewhere else.
Well, you know, you got something in common with Bill Clinton because I was listening last night and that truck driver was talking to me about drafting.
Dear Art, as you are aware, Japan's Kuril Islands were hit with a magnitude 8.0 earthquake this week.
This is the first of four events I have predicted for the timeframe beginning in December of 1995.
See Earth Changes Report published in March of 95.
It signals the beginning of my third four-quake scenario for 1995.
Events will now progress quickly.
On Friday, December 8th, I will be releasing a press and media update to this prophecy, including potential events I see occurring in the U.S. as part of this scenario.
I promise to keep you informed on any updates, and I will send you the latest release on Friday the 8th at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
He goes on, I regret my health is such I cannot appear on your program due to its late airtime.
Five years of visions has taken its toll.
I can, if you wish, discuss this update with you for up to an hour via phone at 10 a.m. or 2 p.m. Eastern on the 8th, which is Friday, and I have taken him up on the 2 p.m. Eastern time, 11 o'clock here.
So I will record that should it occur and play it back Friday night to Saturday morning, which he suggests I could do.
He goes on, I do not wish to alarm anyone, but I now sense we're very close to major geologic events occurring in the U.S. and elsewhere.
Since both of my earlier, this is an important line, since both of my earlier four-quake scenarios have occurred in sequence and on time, I can only assume the potential now exists, the complete four-quake scenario, which has just begun, may now occur.
Even if the percentage of such an event occurring is low, I would still feel that everyone in high-risk areas ought to be prepared, though differently than should a hurricane warning be posted.
I pray the visions I'm seeing are wrong, and if it should turn out to be so, those who prepared will be better prepared for when it does occur.
The scientific community and myself are no longer so far apart in our predictions.
The only difference between us is the time frame and extent of damage.
Sincerely, Gordon Michael.
So there you've got it.
I've been the lucky guy who's been chewing on this fact all day long, trying to decide what to do with it.
Now, it's only prophecy.
It doesn't mean it's going to come true.
However, I've been watching and monitoring very carefully the prophecy of Gordon Michael Scallion.
And I must tell you, it has been terribly accurate in that time I have been watching.
And I could name the Caribbean volcanic action.
I could name Mount Vesuvius and Etna.
I could name the cycles of quakes he has predicted accurately thus far.
He predicted the final cycle would begin, should it occur, in December of 95.
He predicted all this back in March.
It's documented.
Now, your attitude about prophecy is your attitude, and you may consider it pure bunk.
I'm not sitting here saying it's going to happen, but I do not consider it pure bunk.
Okay?
And I say that based on his accuracy record insofar as I've been able to watch it.
Number one.
Number two, I have a pretty good sense of people.
You know, even though I Let people come on here and say what they want to say.
I generally know when I'm hearing bunk.
I leave that up to you to decide when you're hearing bunk.
In my private conversations with Gordon Michael, as well as my public ones, there's not a lot of difference, frankly.
He is as passionate and devoted and believing in what he says privately as he is publicly.
So it is all up to you, and you can dismiss it, but I will do this on Friday, and I will play it back Friday night, Saturday morning for you, and we will ask the appropriate questions.
Several other facts are Susie here, Orange County, Southern California.
I'm the gal I said I feel like a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
Couldn't get more nervous than that.
Well, I've not been able to listen to you since early last week, but for three days I've been having those headaches and that feeling.
Told my husband two days ago, I'm going to the store.
I'm going to stock up on cases of canned goods and get more water.
Something is going to happen.
Can only presume that all of us who have had those feelings are in tune, so to speak.
Will you do an interview with Scallion and upload it to us Friday night?
Thank you.
Yes, assuming it comes off, I certainly will.
This from Fairbanks, Alaska.
Bob, Linda, and Alex sent it.
Art, the last few days in Fairbanks have been rather cold, ranging from lows of minus 60 degrees Fahrenheit in the low-lying areas to highs in the minus 30 degree Fahrenheit area.
Too cold, in fact, to turn the satellite dish to listen to the first two hours of coast live.
Tonight, it's up to 23 below.
The temperatures are not unusual, but the shallow snowpack definitely is.
If we don't get a lot more snow, the frost, according to the experts, could reach 12 feet into the ground, and that will raise hell with the water lines and septic systems.
You've got to remember snow acts as a blanket.
as to the latest clinton approval poll and it is fifty one percent now don't you think the question asked when something like this do you want to see peace in bosnia you uh...
It could have.
Somebody faxed me and said I was nothing but a dinosaur, referring to what's coming.
With respect to the comments about the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, let's go back to the beginning, shall we?
2 to 4 billion years ago, so the story goes, there was nothing but water and chemicals from dissolved rocks.
Did the rocks care?
How do you get personality from rocks?
In other words, then, it don't matter.
You might just as well accept the pointlessness of life.
Or, I'm glad I have more than this, Bob W. Hmm.
I'm glad I have more than this.
The pointlessness of life.
I don't feel that at all.
How many of you feel that way, that life is really quite a pointless thing?
It is not.
There are many validations and reasons for life, and one is consciousness, and one is love, and there are many, many things you could cite as reasons for living, for life.
This is interesting.
Jim in Custer, Washington, Jim and Don say, hey, Art, my reliable sources, plural, say that Texas just declared their sovereignty.
Well, I wonder what he means by that.
They passed a 10th Amendment provision, or they're leaving the Union, or what exactly, Jim and Don, do you mean?
I've listened to you for a couple of years, and I have two questions to ask you.
I'm genuinely amazed at every time you tie into President Clinton's one of his hairbrain policies that shortly thereafter Doc Democrat gets a hold of you.
Could it be that Doc Democrat is actually Slick Willie in disguise?
I think the president is having success because the American people say they want a balanced budget.
They say they want to pay down the debt.
But when it really comes down to it, they really don't.
And Clinton serves up that kind of thing.
unidentified
Well, I think it's because the American people understand that they want a balanced budget, but they care about their environment.
They care about the elderly people, whereas the Republicans obviously don't.
That's the difference.
Let me say lastly on this quickening thing.
You know something?
I had one of my friends was listening to your show, and he was very upset with what you had to say about the quickening.
He tends to think that you believe that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you believe that the world or the United States is headed towards some irresistible, perilous doom that they cannot stop.
If you check the latitude of those earthquakes and you check the latitude of the earthquakes in north of Tokyo, you will find similar, exactly similar latitudes.
unidentified
That is very interesting.
I hadn't thought of that.
I thought maybe it was just a couple of old mine shafts caved in.
Resurrecting the word sleazy from the old Jim Wright days, are you, Doc?
unidentified
Well, certainly, and he had to go, so that's why, in the name of fairness, Newt English has to go.
But no, he's going to bring the Republicans down because every time he opens his mouth about the budget or anything else, he's already been discredited.
Doc, I thought you said that leadership, as applied to President Clinton, meant that doing things, you had to do things that were unpopular with the people.
And that is that to balance the budget in seven years, the numbers have got to come from somewhere.
And wait a minute now.
And when our president has to tell the country the way the Republicans already had the guts to do where he's going to get the money, then there's going to be a problem.
Try and give me a sense of why we're reviewing all this history.
unidentified
Well, just want to one thing.
When they invaded Denmark and Norway, Belgium, Holland, and France, 1940, France was out of it, and England was fighting alone.
And when we got into the war, December the 7th, 1941, because they have the nerve to criticize Mr. Roosevelt, the Japanese already had the whole east coast of China.
They had all of Southeast Asia, practically, and the Germans were occupying at least 15 countries on the European continent.
Look, I don't know why you're trying to set up a debate about that war.
We've got a debate going on right now.
I mean, we're dispatching American men and women by the tens of thousands by the tens of thousands to Bosnia.
So we don't need to review and rehash, except as history serves us to remember, all the wars of the past and whether or not Roosevelt knew the Japanese were coming and all the rest of all that baloney that people still talk about.
We've got real flesh and blood headed over to Bosnia right now.
Sorry to say.
Can't we make it such a mistake?
This is really a mistake.
You better believe I support our troops, but the policy, it's a big mistake.
And to go over there and say we're going to spend one year and we're not going to arm the Bosnians, then we're going to leave.
I just heard on CB Radio, a lawyer line, a lawyer jab.
What do you get when you cross a crooked lawyer with a crooked politician?
A Chelsea.
I'm sorry.
Anyway.
That's terrible.
All right, on this Bosnia thing, Monday night here in Portland on the ABC affiliate, they showed the troop dispersal, and I haven't heard you talk about it.
Here's what they showed, and they showed the graphics.
20,000 to Bosnia, these are Americans.
20,000 to Bosnia, 5,000 to Croatia, and 3,000 to Hungary.
I thought that was significant because it's the first time in 30 or 40 years that American NATO forces have been allowed in the former communist country.
Our military is now one-third smaller than it was after Desert Storm.
unidentified
Well, I still say this is a disaster, but I still say that thank God for the talk regular format where we can discuss it because we're just not going to be able to do it.
As I said, we live in an age, obviously, where insanity can be accomplished without the need for justification, where we can just dispatch people without a national security reason to possibly their death.
And as far as I'm concerned, the Democrats' agenda is against the poor, against the middle class, and against the elderly, and against the children.
If you look at any of their policies, they're all self-centered.
All they want to do is get re-elected back in to pass laws that are against the populace.
And I don't want to get too far into that, but I do want to say something.
You've been talking about, or you have talked in the past about stealth aircraft, and you had mentioned that there's some studies that say that the stealth aircraft don't even really work.
okay and also one but any of you know i know So that's what I meant when I said it didn't fully work.
And there have been a lot of tests with the B-2, and it has not been able to.
But then, on the other hand, I haven't seen one.
How about the rest of you?
Have any of you seen any B2s?
So maybe it does work.
Maybe they don't have the same kind of stealth system.
Maybe they've got the Klingons cloaking system.
Okay, here are two contrasting facts on the Michael New thing.
Dear Art Bell, you pompous realist, how dare you bring into the Michael New discussion military law and the duty of an enlisted man?
Don't you realize that in the modern world, the feelings and desires of the individual supersede the unfair rules that society imposes upon us?
Why, the next thing you know, you'll be advocating self-sacrifice for a higher ideal.
Shame on you.
That's from Martin in Alameda.
And then this art, you keep saying we just don't get it about Michael New.
Guess we must be stupid out here.
I think we do.
He did not follow an order, and yes, he should be court-martialed.
But he knew, no pun intended, I'm sure, that under those circumstances, he challenged UN authority versus our constitutional authority.
I think your initial statement is, should we be discussing, is he a hero?
Joe at KCMO.
No, Joe.
I don't think so, not in my estimation.
To me, somebody who disobeys a lawful order is not a hero.
Now, I realize to some who would call themselves and do patriots, it is a very patriotic, proper thing to do.
But if you want to argue Constitution, then you've got to understand that under the Constitution, we can make treaties, and they are the supreme law of the land.
And if you want to change some, you change the treaty.
You don't say, no, sir, I'm not going to do that.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
You're listening to Arc Bell somewhere in time on Premier Radio Networks.
Tonight, an encore presentation of Coast to Coast AM from December 6, 1995.
When you're slim, you've got the teeth that hide upon you.
You dirty sweeten your mind, girl.
Get it on, bang a gun.
Get it on.
Tonight, tonight we're gonna make it happen Tonight we'll put all of our things aside You're listening to Art Bell Somewhere in Time, tonight featuring a replay of Coast to Coast AM from December 6th, 1995.
I just got a fact from Tony, who said, do not read on the air, please.
And so I'm not going to.
It is about Stan Deo.
Tony had just spoken with Stan Deo down in Australia, way down under in Perth, Australia.
So I believe in going straight to the source.
And since Tony doesn't want me to tell what Stan wants to say, I'm going to let Stan say it for himself.
I've got Stan from Perth, Australia on the line.
First, I want to read, and I know he's listening, the scallion facts that I've got.
Here it is, Stan.
Dear Art, as you are aware, Japan's Kuril Islands were hit with a magnitude 8.0 earthquake this week.
This is the first of four events I have predicted for the timeframe beginning December of 95.
See the Earth Changes Report in March of 95.
It signals the beginning of my third four-quake scenario for 1995.
Events will now progress quickly.
On Friday, December 8th, 1995, I will be releasing a press and media update to this prophecy, including potential events I see occurring in the U.S. as part of this scenario.
I promise to keep you informed on any updates, and I will send you the latest release on Friday, the 8th at 9 a.m.
Eastern.
I regret my health is such that I cannot appear on your program due to its late airtime.
Five years of visions has taken its toll.
I can, if you wish, discuss this update for up to an hour with you on the phone at 10 a.m. or 2 p.m. Eastern Time on the 8th, which, if appropriate for you and your listeners, could be rebroadcast on your Friday or Saturday evening, in other words, Friday night, Saturday morning.
I do not wish to alarm anyone, but I sense we are very close to major geological events occurring in the U.S. and elsewhere.
Since both of my earlier four quake scenarios have occurred in sequence and on time, I can only assume the potential now exists that the complete four-quake scenario, which has just begun, may now occur.
Even if the percentage of such an event occurring is low, I would still feel that everyone in high-risk areas should be prepared, no different than a hurricane warning.
I pray the visions I'm seeing are wrong.
Should it turn out to be so, those who prepared will be better prepared for when it does occur.
The scientific community and myself are no longer so far apart in our predictions.
The only difference between us is the time frame and extent of damage.
Sincerely, Gordon Michael.
Well, that's the prophecy end of it.
The guy who watches the thermal areas of the Earth is on the line with me from Perth, Australia.
At that time, about 40% of them have converted to action.
Like Gordon Michael, I try to say to folks, look, if you're in one of the areas that I say, look out, you've got about a one in three, one in four, maybe better chance that it will actually hit in the next four days.
Be prepared.
That's the best I can do.
But what I've come across here in the last few days since I've made that announcement is some information from a guy, I'll have to fact it to you later, about what people should do before an earthquake or volcano occurs in their area, what people should do during one in various buildings or locations that they might be in, and what people should do after the disaster if they survive it.
I think this is probably of much more value than the panic value of, geez, we're going to get an earthquake.
Now, I take those color images of the entire planet twice a day, and I use a program called Photoshop and subtract one image from the first part of the day from the second one, and I also subtract other days prior to that to get the change in temperature.
I don't want the absolute temperature.
I want the change in temperature, see if it's warming up or if it's cooling down in various areas of the ocean.
Now, in the beginning, this was just an idle curiosity, but very quickly I realized that these temperature changes, when they went up and down next to each other in tight little patterns, earthquakes or volcanoes occurred within a few days in those areas.
Now, what is causing it?
Is it magma movements beneath the crust?
I mean, this is quite unusual to have something like this happen.
Is it something to do in the ionosphere, or is it something to do with simply pressure in the crust, generating a temperature differential just from the pure pressure, which heats up the water a degree or so, or half a degree?
Now, I think the latter is probably the case more than magma movements.
It's just when the pressure starts to build, the heat builds with it, like when you squeeze anything.
Now, something else in the last week has been happening on another image that I get from the Navy that is unusual.
Well, to me it is anyway.
I've not seen it before.
On your map, if you look at 90 degrees east latitude and 12 degrees south latitude, that's kind of in the middle of the Indian Ocean, in the middle of nowhere, a thing about 60 miles in diameter, a circular thing, kind of like a yin-yang symbol, developed around the first or second of December.
And it's just a perfectly round, chase its tail-type yin-yang symbol that developed there, showing that the wave height in the middle of the Indian Ocean in that tight little circle had increased.
Now, this is okay.
I mean, a hurricane will generate a symbol like that, perhaps a little smaller, but it will generate a symbol, you know, a raised wave height.
But this thing sat in one spot for three days and didn't move.
It wasn't a hurricane, didn't get any hurricane reports or anything.
It was just an upwelling of wave height.
Now, until I was talking to Tony, it hadn't dawned on me a long time ago, 79 or so, I remember reading about the smokers, you know, the deep sea vents that have superheated water gushing up through them?
These things have been reported even as far back as the tale of the flood in Genesis as fountains of the deep, you know, where water comes up from underneath the floor of the ocean.
It's 400 degrees Fahrenheit water that squirts out like a hypodermic through holes.
Now, in the northeastern Pacific Ocean, off the Oregon-Washington coast, there have been reports of up to 1,100 little vents like this being cataloged in 79.
They bring up water from way deep down in the Earth's surface, maybe 15 miles or so, down where the Moho discontinuity is and just above that.
There seems to be a shell of water, the Russians reckon, which has superheated water and metals dissolved in it, and it gushes up through holes in the bottom of the ocean floor.
Now, this wouldn't mean much except that about a week ago, a report came into Nexus magazine, and we are going to print this story in the next issue.
Here in Australia, two years ago, a competent scientific group discovered what they think is proof that the Earth is contracting rapidly by geological standards.
This report was filed with the Prime Minister of this country and with various politicians of this country, and their responses were all recorded, and to a man, they all said, no, not interested.
Don't want to report it, don't want to back it.
Now, two years later, we're seeing evidence of crustal activity that would indicate something like this is in the go.
If the Earth is contracting, then possibly these deep-sea Vents are becoming more active, and what I'm seeing here is an upwelling of a super vent.
I don't know how to tell you, except I think that's a good guess.
Because that is where we would look for the next action, would be somewhere in the Indian Ocean, probably.
unidentified
A heat zone is developing underneath that welling I was telling you about.
There's a temperature inversion, a drop just north of there surrounding that, and a heat inversion going up the other way, starting right where that bubble was, slightly to the left of it.
That means that there could be a quake activity building there.
It's not too serious yet.
It's not a big one.
South America, holy cow.
Boy, look down the east, southeast coast, that's Argentina.
On the right side, the east side of it is lighting up, but I don't see any dark areas, so it may not convert yet.
California, Baja California has a white spot indicating a temperature rise off the tip of it and to the west about 600 miles, a tight zone.
North of that up to San Francisco is a cooling, indicating that there's pressure between the two.
Probably Los Angeles is where the conversion could take place.
Also another one off Oregon, a hotspot building.
Cooling down, sorry, that's off Washington.
Down at Oregon, it's a hotspot right on land.
And then slightly south and west of that is a cool spot, indicating it might be some minor quakes up there shortly.
Okay, there's now a link between my web page, I understand, and yours, correct?
unidentified
That's correct.
They can go to your web page for people that have appeared on your show who have web pages.
Click my name.
That takes them to my web page.
And on my front page, there's a thing that says, well, down, about three-quarters of the way down, it says current quakes, thermal changes, and wavehike changes, U.S. Naval Center.
And you just click on those, and it takes you straight in.
And then you have to pull those images down.
And if you don't know how to kind of process them, you can write to me on email because my address is on the page.
Well, I'd like to tell you, I've lived out here for about 18 years now and went through the big Landers earthquake out here.
And ever since then, including the day that it happened for about a month after that, we got straight, solid white haze in our desert all around us for about a month.
It is true that a lot of regular science is beginning to talk about earth movement.
unidentified
Well, in relation to the size of the earthquakes that they have in what they call Cascadia, the Cascade Range.
One thing I was going to say, not on that subject, but I was really suspicious when Clinton wanted to send in the 1st Division, the big red one, heavily armored mechanized division into Bosnia.
And I got a feeling we are not going to be there for a year.
It's going to be an extended tour of duty.
And another thing, from the semantics, the way things are talking about this agreement, I don't think we're going to arm the Bosnian Muslims.
I saw the re-entry, and it was the gosh-darndest thing I ever saw.
It was a purple.
I didn't see the two of them.
I saw the re-entry of the shuttle, and it was an orange streak that went, I would guess, oh, 20 degrees, 10 or 20 degrees, 15 or 20, I'll say, above the horizon, which came west to east, and it was awesome.
That thing just was trucking.
It began as a bright star in the west, and then began to streak across the horizon.
I didn't hear the sonic boom, but it was clear as can be here in the high desert, as it so frequently is, and it was beautiful.
So otherwise, if you get a legal order, you do what you are ordered to do.
And we can take it Joe's way and discuss whether Michael New is some sort of hero.
To me, he is not.
If you wish to change the obligation the U.N. has through treaty to other UN member nations, then you do that by changing the treaties.
You don't do it by joining the U.S. military, holding up your hand, promising to uphold the U.S. Constitution.
And if you'll check out the U.S. Constitution, you will find that treaties, when they are made, become the supreme law of the land, and then disobey it.
That isn't the way you do it.
You run for Congress.
You petition your Congresspeople, your Senate people, even the President, whoever you want to petition, to see to it that that treaty is abrogated.
That's the way you do it.
You don't go into the military and then refuse to take an order, and when you do, you get court-martialed.
Now, you may consider Michael New a hero.
I don't.
I don't.
I consider him somebody who has disobeyed a lawful order and properly faces a court-martial.
And the North Atlantic Treaty, NATO Treaty, specifies that the alliance exists to serve the purposes and principles of the United Nations and recognizes the primary responsibility of the Security Council for the maintenance of international peace and the United States.
And the Japanese thought they really had it down in terms of construction for earthquake-resistant buildings, and they all came down like a house of cards.
unidentified
There were, looked like square patches, like maybe a mile square at a time, that were totally leveled, and they hauled it all off the ocean and dumped it.
And the thing that surprised me kind of caused me to think, well, a lot of the fire equipment and the water trucks and the food trucks and that were not used.
And the reason was they couldn't go anyplace.
They were stopped in place.
And it's not like after a war we can go in and resupply something down a country road.
So I had to redo my thinking up here in Reno for what's happening.
But I thought I'd let you know I was able to pick up KOH clear out there in a Pacific.
You know, if you can wangle your way up into a cockpit and get to the radio, the moment you're up in the air and leaving Japan, particularly just prior to dawn, you would be able to hear West Coast signals.
No doubt about it.
Radio is really cool.
if you uh...
get a good radio like an eight one eight c_s_ or something like that get a good internet there you can hear radio from all over the world you East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
You know, he might have done something wrong, but, I mean, they're nitpicking, and we got a guy, a president, who's been charged with drug dealing, money laundering, and what looks to me, I hesitate to use a word, but it looks to me like murder in Foster's case.
Well, nobody has officially charged him with murder.
Nobody has officially charged him with drug dealing.
As far as I know, and if you know that that is, you know, when you make an allegation like that, Wall Street Journal's made those allegations.
Yeah, but see, the word allegation and the word charged with are different.
Charged with is like indicted by a grand jury or charged with by the police or the FBI, arrested for, charged with as opposed to allegations.
unidentified
Okay, they've been alleged, but they really haven't been pursued or investigated.
Thank you.
And I think that that's a heck of a lot more troubling to me than Benedict Gingrich, who I'm no fan of, as you know, of his college course, Billy Dally.
I think it's going to last a lot more longer than a year, and I think we're going to wind up with 75 or 100,000 troops over there before it's over with.
Well, I hope it doesn't, but I hope the people, when the election comes, starts to listen to all of his excuses as why the troops aren't coming out of there and realize that he's just talking out of the other side of his face.